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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2020 3-05 TO ORDER.WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO PLEASE RISE. DEPUTY MAYOR, LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE, PLEASE.
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WHICH WE'RE SAYING, GOD, THIS IS JUST A STRONG ROCK.
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OKAY. OUR FIRST ITEM FOR BUSINESS.I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MADAM SMITH.
THAT'S ZERO SIX, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DECLARING THE POSITION OF SEAT FIVE ON THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL VACATED AS OF FEBRUARY 17TH, 2023, DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF PETER FILIBERTO PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO ASK IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. AND MASTER CHIEF.
AND THEN MISS JANICE, IS IT? THE MASTER CHIEF.
SILVERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION ON THIS ONE.
SINCE THE VACANCY WAS FEBRUARY 17TH, THE 60 DAYS THAT IS APRIL 18TH.
IS THAT CORRECT? BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE POSITION FILLED BY APRIL 18TH.
I'LL HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY RESPOND TO THAT OFFICIALLY, MADAM SMITH.
I HAVE A COMPUTER, BUT IT STARTS FROM FEBRUARY 17.
I LIVE AT 570 SHERMAN STREET, SOUTHEAST AND PALM BAY.
BEEN A LONG TIME BOVARD RESIDENT, ONLY FOUR YEARS HERE IN PALM BAY.
AND I MOVED HERE BECAUSE I SAW THAT THE CITY STARTED HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND SO WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.
BUT ONE THING THAT I ASKED BEFORE THIS ALL UNFOLDED, AFTER THE RESIGNATION WAS HOW MUCH WEIGHT WILL BE GIVEN TO THE CITIZEN BOARD APPLICATION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T ASK FOR MUCH INFORMATION.
ALL IT'S ASKING FOR IS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH HAVE YOU DONE FOR THE CITY, BASICALLY, AND BECAUSE OF COVID AND MANY OTHER REASONS, THERE'S MANY OF US THAT WILL HAVE A VERY SHORT APPLICATION.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE LONG EXPERIENCE THAT WE COULD ADD TO THE CITY AND BE A GOOD.
TEAM MEMBER FOR THIS DIOCESE AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE.
THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
I BELIEVE THIS GENTLEMAN RAISED HIS HAND BEFORE YOU, SIR.
I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME. AND THEN, MR. GRAHAM, YOUR NEXT.
I LIVE AT 301 LISA ROAD, NORTHEAST.
I HAVE A DOCTORATE FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA COLLEGE OF OPTOMETRY.
I WAS BORN IN THE SLEEPY TOWN OF ORLANDO, FLORIDA, AND GREW UP OUTSIDE WASHINGTON, D.C..
MR. MILES, I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOUR YOUR RESUME.
RIGHT. HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING WHO GETS APPOINTED HERE TODAY.
WE'RE ESTABLISHING A RESOLUTION MOVING FORWARD.
RIGHT. APPLICATION PROCESS WILL WILL ENSUE.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON REGARDING THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION? WELL, LOOKING AT THE CHARTER, THE VACANCIES FILLING OF VACANCIES, IT SAYS THAT YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
ONE, YOU CAN RUN AN ELECTION OR TWO, A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS CAN VOTE SOMEBODY IN.
SO RATHER THAN GO THROUGH THE EXPENSE AND DO THAT, I'D LIKE TO PUT MYSELF OUT THERE.
SO THE BOARD, THIS COUNCIL WILL BE APPOINTING ONE OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WILL COME IN DOWNRANGE.
THAT WAS VOTED ON THIS PAST NOVEMBER.
WELL, I THOUGHT THE SPECIAL ELECTION OPTION IS NO LONGER.
I THOUGHT THE SPECIAL MEETING WAS TO PRESENT YOURSELF, IF NECESSARY.
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I DON'T BELIEVE, MA'AM.TECHNICALLY. THIS IS JUST THE RESOLUTION.
YES, THIS ITEM IS JUST THE WE HAVE TO ALTHOUGH COUNCILMAN ROBERTO SUBMITTED THE RESIGNATION LETTER AND IT WAS EFFECTIVE WHEN GIVEN OUR CHARTER REQUIRES THAT WE PASS A RESOLUTION ANNOUNCING THE VACANCY AND SAY IN COUNCIL STATING THE CAUSE.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING ON THIS ITEM.
OKAY. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO APPLY AFTER WE ESTABLISH THAT PROCESS.
IF I COULD JUMP IN, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH MISS JANICE, WHO SPOKE BEFORE YOU.
SO IF YOU ARE WANTING TO MEET WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY JUST TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND JUST, YOU KNOW, SHARE YOUR RESUME IN MORE DETAIL, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ANY ONE OF US AS WELL, SIR.
SO THEY WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE? I BELIEVE, MR. GRAHAM, YOU WANTED TO SPEAK ANYONE ELSE AFTER MR. GRAHAM? THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
SO YOU HAD NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, AS WE USUALLY DO AT MEETINGS.
SO I WOULD ASK FOR A LITTLE LENIENCY FOR TIME IF I GET CLOSE.
I WOULD QUESTION THE REASON TO EVEN HAVE THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
THE CLOCK ALREADY STARTED ON THE 17TH.
WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES A DECLARATION MAKE IF IT'S TONIGHT OR NEXT WEEK AT THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING? HIS NEW BUSINESS? IF IF THAT WASN'T THE CASE, IF IT DIDN'T START THEN AND DIDN'T START UNTIL YOU MADE THE DECLARATION, YOU COULD STILL WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK TO MAKE THE DECLARATION.
BUT TO HAVE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH 24 HOURS NOTICE IS NOT TRANSPARENT.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING I EXPECT FROM THIS COUNCIL IN 2023.
IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD EXPECT FROM THE COUNCIL IN 2016.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.
HOW WOULD YOU RESPOND? TO WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.
THAT IS CORRECT. HE HE EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER THE TIMETABLE WAS ALREADY SET UPON THE VACANCY, AND WE COULD HAVE MOVED THIS MEETING TO NEXT WEEK. IS THERE A RESPONSE YOU WISH TO PROVIDE? CERTAINLY ONE.
CERTAINLY WE ARE ANNOUNCING THE VACANCY, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING AHEAD AND CODIFY IN THE PROCESS.
IT'S NOT A SEPARATE ORDINANCE.
SO WE WANT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE.
SO THAT GO AHEAD. IT ALLOWS US TO NOW SEE VACANCY AND HAVE THE.
DOES THAT RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION, SIR? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2023.
I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
IF YOU GENTLEMEN DON'T MIND, I WANT TO HAVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER WHO'S ON THE PHONE.
ALLOW HIM TO BE THE FIRST TO SPEAK.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ARE YOU TRACKING US? YES, MAYOR. I HAVE NO COMMENT.
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO THROW THIS OUT THERE, GENTLEMEN.
WE'RE WE'RE ENTERING INTO A POSITION WHERE THE CITY HAS NEVER BEEN INTO BEFORE.
RIGHT. WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SELECT THE CANDIDATE TO SIT ON THIS DAIS.
RIGHT. AND IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE.
AND SO THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE TYPICALLY IT'S THE PEOPLE THAT DECIDE.
BUT THIS IS GOING TO PUT A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY ON US.
SO I WANT US TO BE PRUDENT ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
BY THAT I MEAN WE SHOULD WE SHOULD INSTITUTE AND PROBABLY THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT ITEM, BUT MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK, MAKE SURE THAT WE BECAUSE IF WE'RE HIRING A NEW PERSON ON.
AS AN EMPLOYEE. THEY GO THROUGH BACKGROUND CHECKS, THEY GO THROUGH DRUG TESTING.
AND SO WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE SAME ISSUES IN LINE.
SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I.
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PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.ITEM NUMBER TWO. MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2023.
THUS TEN. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 50 ELECTIONS SUBCHAPTER FILLING THE VACANCIES BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN PURSUANT TO THE PALM BAY CITY CHARTER, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. MRS. JONES. UH.
SORRY. ANY. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UM, NO, SIR. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD, MR. GRAHAM. ANYONE ELSE? MASTER CHIEF AND THEN MISS WRIGHT.
I JUST WANT TO AGAIN STATE MY OBJECTION, TOO.
THERE'S A REASON THESE ORDINANCES TAKE TWO READINGS.
THERE IS A REASON THESE ORDINANCES TAKE TWO READINGS NOT TO BE DONE ON A 24 HOUR NOTICE MEETING.
PRETTY MUCH YOU'RE COVERED BY SUNSHINE, BUT JUST BARELY.
I MEAN, MINIMUM STANDARDS FOR BEING TRANSPARENT, ABSOLUTE MINIMUM STANDARDS.
SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO TABLE THIS UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THIS ONE.
EXCUSE ME. THE FIRST ONE NEW APPOINTMENT ENDS IS GOING TO BE 2026 OR IS IT GOING TO BE THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION? SO IT'LL BE BECAUSE THAT MEANS IT'LL BE THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION.
THAT MEANS WE'RE FILLING FOUR SEATS, WHICH IS KIND OF CONTRADICTORY OF WHAT WE TRY TO OPERATE OUR GOVERNMENT SO WE DON'T HAVE A FULL BRAND NEW TOTAL GOVERNMENT SITTING UP THERE AT ONE TIME.
SO THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION THERE.
SO WE'D BE FILLING FOUR SEATS AT THE NEXT ELECTION.
HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT ACQUIRING THE FORM IF YOU WANT TO BE AN APPLICANT SUBMITTING THE FORM? WHAT'S THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE FORM? EXPLAIN THAT. SO THE PEOPLE THAT DO WANT TO FIND OUT WILL KNOW.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IN DATE FOR THE 30 DAY APPLICATION PROCESS IS THAT 30 DAYS FROM TODAY, 30 DAYS FROM WHEN THE ORDINANCE IS PASSED OR WHAT? SO WHAT'S THE END DATE BY WHEN A PERSON HAS TO HAVE THEIR APPLICATION IN BY EXCUSE ME, ITEM NUMBER FOUR? THIS PROCESS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AFTER NOVEMBER ELECTION.
BUT THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AT THIS TIME.
BUT WE KNEW IT WAS COMING BECAUSE IT.
WHY WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE? BECAUSE YOU SAW WHAT A WHAT THE SAY THE IMAGE THAT IT PORTRAYS, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT NOW YOU SEE THE IMAGE.
THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AND CAN BE CHANGED AT THE WHIM OF OUR SITTING COUNCIL.
SO THIS PROCESS BY WHICH WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT IS JUST AN ORDINANCE.
AND IF WE SAY IT DOESN'T WORK AND WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN SAY, WELL, WE JUST WANT TO REWRITE OUR ORDINANCE, YOU'LL DECIDE AMONGST YOURSELF ON THE ENTIRE PROCESS COULD BE CHANGED AGAIN BASED ON THE SITTING COUNCIL.
JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE THAT THIS IS IT'S IN STONE.
WANTED TO TAKE THOSE QUESTIONS FIRST.
THE FIRST QUESTION 2024 IS, AS YOU KNOW, MASTER CHIEF, AND THEN IT WILL GO ON CYCLE IN 2026 AGAIN.
THEN I WANTED THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
PERHAPS, MR. REESE, YOU CAN YOU COULD SHARE ON THAT.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH SOME HERE.
IMAM. AND THEN THE END DATE, THE 30 DAYS THAT MASTER CHIEF WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, THE DEADLINE FOR APPLICATIONS WOULD BE MARCH 29TH, BECAUSE THE SELECTION WILL HOPEFULLY BE ON APRIL 6TH.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND, OF COURSE, NUMBER FIVE WAS ALL ABOUT IMAGE.
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I BELIEVE MISS WRIGHT, YOU WERE NEXT.I. ISABEL WRIGHT 858 BRISBANE STREET, NORTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. FILIBERTO FOR DOING THE RIGHT THING, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP IT IN OUR PRAYERS.
SECOND OF ALL, ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY HE MENTIONED.
EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE ARE HURTING AND WE NEED TO HEAL.
SO THE FASTER WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS, THE FASTER WE CAN TAKE CARE OF STARTING THE HEALING PROCESS.
AND AS FAR AS BACKGROUND CHECKS, I JUST FEEL THAT IF YOU GUYS WERE NOT BACKGROUND CHECKED, THE PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE SITTING UP THERE SHOULD NOT BE BACKGROUND CHECK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE A DIFFERENCE.
ONCE THE ELECTION PROCESS GETS THROUGH, THEN WE NEED TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE.
FOR NEXT ELECTION IN 2024, WHERE WE CAN BE FAIR AND BE INCLUSIVE OF WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE.
BUT FOR THIS ELECTION, I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY RUNNING OR SOMEBODY WHO'S INTERESTED.
I DON'T THINK A FULL BACKGROUND CHECK LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EMPLOYEES.
WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SIT. THERE IS NOT AN EMPLOYEE, LIKE YOU GUYS SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE NOT EMPLOYEE.
TIM. ALRIGHT, RAISE YOUR HAND, TIM.
YOUR NEXT TIM AND THEN MR. STICE. AND THEN WHO ELSE? I HOPE EVERYBODY. WELL, SIR, WE WANT EVERYBODY'S VOICE TO BE HEARD HERE IN PALM BAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO GET THIS STRAIGHT IN MY OWN SCRAMBLED UP BRAIN.
SO THESE CHANGES ARE CHANGING THE ORDINANCES THAT DICTATE HOW YOU REPLACE A COUNCIL MEMBER.
RIGHT. SO IT APPEARS TO ME AND I'VE READ IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, GOBBLEDYGOOK STUFF SOMETIMES, BUT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS FOR SOMEBODY TO REPLACE A SEAT ON THE COUNCIL.
THAT COULD BE ANYBODY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND THEN THE FOUR OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO.
SELECT WHO'S GOING TO FILL THAT SLOT.
AND THAT'S NOT ALLOWING THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO BE THE SELECTOR OF COUNCIL MEMBERS UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION, WHICH I THINK IS NOVEMBER 24.
SO I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE ON THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE UP MORE.
I MEAN, I THINK ALL OF YOU ARE GOING TO GO THAT DIRECTION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AS I HAD STATED BEFORE, MAYOR NATHAN WHITE GARNERED ALMOST 18,000 VOTES IN THE LAST ELECTION. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN HIS CORNER IN THIS JURISDICTION.
I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT VOTE ON THESE ORDINANCES AND MAKE THESE RULES FOR.
WHAT YOU DO HERE ON THE COUNCIL.
I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH SAY IN IT, BUT HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT OF SAY IN IT.
AND I HOPE YOU ALL DO THE RIGHT THING AND WE GET A GOOD BALANCE OF REPRESENTATION ON THE COUNCIL THAT GIVES DIRECTION TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN THE NEXT LOT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR AND A HALF TILL NEXT ELECTION.
IT'S A LOT OF MEETINGS AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DECISIONS.
I WISH YOU ALL WELL ON MAKING THAT REPLACEMENT CHOICE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
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THERE WAS A REFERENDUM ON CHANGES TO THE CHARTER, ONE OF WHICH DEALT WITH HOW A VACANCY ON COUNCIL WOULD BE WOULD BE FILLED, BECAUSE PRIOR TO THAT, THE CHARTER IS MOST RECENT.CHARTER STATED COUNCIL WOULD PASS AN ORDINANCE.
SO INSTEAD WHAT WAS ON THE REFERENDUM AND WHAT THE VOTERS VOTED FOR WAS A PROCESS IN WHICH COUNCIL, WHILE WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION UNLESS COUNCIL FAILED TO APPOINT WITHIN 60 DAYS, AND THEN THAT PERSON, WHOEVER WAS APPOINTED, WOULD COME UP FOR A VOTE AT THE NEXT REGULAR ELECTION SO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE A NEED FOR A SPECIAL COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY ELECTION EXPENSE, BUT THAT THE VOTERS WOULD ACTUALLY STILL HAVE A SAY IN IT BY HAVING THAT PERSON BE ON THE NEXT ELECTION FOR THIS CITY.
SO THE PUBLIC DECIDED THAT THEY PREFERRED THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT CHOICE.
GOOD EVENING. ROBERT'S DAY IS 1796 WHEN BROOK DRIVE.
JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS. WHEN I WAS HIRING PEOPLE, I HAD A ADMIN ASSISTANT WHO INTERVIEWED.
WELL, BACKGROUND CHECKS WENT THROUGH JUST FINE DRUG TESTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WHEN I GOT HER IN PLACE, THINGS WERE GOING A LITTLE CRAZY.
AND IF FOUND THAT ONLINE, THERE'S A LOT OF FREE INFORMATION ONLINE.
SO IF THE CITY ITSELF CAN'T DO BACKGROUND CHECKS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LAW THAT YOU JUST CAN'T LOOK AND FIND AS A LOT OF INFORMATION ONLINE THAT YOU CAN GET FROM PUBLIC RECORDS. SO JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THE OTHER THING IS, I REALLY LIKED THE NEW STAFF THAT YOU HAVE HERE AND YOUR MEMBERS HERE THINKING OUT OF THE BOX AND WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IN LAYMAN'S TERM.
EVERYBODY DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID, WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT OR WHETHER YOU'RE ON THE LEFT.
LOOK AT THIS IN AN INDEPENDENT MIND.
I LEARNED THAT WHEN YOU HIRE PEOPLE JUST LIKE YOU, YOU HAVE THE SAME STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES.
SO I HIRE PEOPLE THAT ARE BECAUSE I'M A MACRO GUY.
ALL RIGHT. PLEASE LOOK AT THAT.
SO I WOULD I WOULD ASK IF YOU YOU KNOW, YOUR FLAVOR IS DEMOCRATIC.
REPUBLICAN. TAKE OFF THAT HAT.
WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE CITY? BECAUSE DEBATE IS HEALTHY.
YOU GET EVERYBODY IN HERE WHO'S GOT THE SAME FOCUS AND THE SAME STRENGTH AND WEAKNESS AND YOUR WEAKNESSES ARE GOING TO JUST JUMP OUT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT GIVE AND TAKE.
AND I THINK AS A COUNTRY WHERE WE GET REALLY HEALTHY IS THAT HEALTHY DEBATE.
SO PLEASE DO NOT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT BODIES.
LOOK AT SOMEBODY WHO'S GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND PUSH THE NORM ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, THEY CAN GIVE YOU DIFFERENT IDEAS ABOUT IT.
SO AGAIN, DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID, FELLOWS, PLEASE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
IT UP ON THE MIKE, SIR. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? MY NAME IS EDWARD MCCALL, 717 FERNANDINA STREET, NORTHWEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO BE REPLACING SOMEBODY.
AND I'VE ALREADY HAD SOMEBODY SAY THEY DON'T WANT A BACKGROUND CHECK ON THEM.
I'M KIND OF A LITTLE BIT LEERY ABOUT THAT.
WE HAD THE PERSON THAT WE ARE NOW TRYING TO REPLACE IN THIS CITY.
HE MUST NOT HAVE GOTTEN A BACKGROUND CHECK EITHER.
AND WE KNOW WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAPPENED WITH THAT.
DON'T SOMEBODY SAY, DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID.
IT'S NOT ABOUT KOOL-AID, BUT IT'S ABOUT AS HAVING SOMEBODY THAT'S SITTING UP THERE ON THAT BOARD THAT'S GOT THEIR BRAIN ON THEIR ON THEIR SHOULDERS, AND THEY'RE NOT DOING STUPID THINGS EITHER OUT IN THE CITY OR UP ON THAT DAIS.
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I WANT THAT FOR.WE'RE GOING TO GO HEAD TO HEAD ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOBODIES AND NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THEM THAT DOESN'T REALLY KNOW THE WORKINGS OF A GOVERNMENT.
IT SITS UP THERE, MR. SMITH GOES TO WASHINGTON AND FINDS OUT HOW TO RUN A CITY ALONG WITH THE REST OF YOU, BECAUSE THIS CITY IS GROWING SO FAST THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A COMMON CITIZEN.
OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING INTO THIS CITY.
YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'VE GOT.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHO YOU'VE GOT.
YOU GUYS SHOULD DO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
MAKE SURE THAT THE PERSON THAT YOU'RE PLANNING TO PUT UP THERE, THAT FILLS OUT THE FORM.
NOT TO BE A KOOL-AID DRINKER, BUT NEW YORK DIDN'T VET SANTOS WELL, AND APPARENTLY.
RANDY FINE DIDN'T INVENT THIS LAST ONE EITHER.
SO I DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID.
ESPECIALLY IN A NON PARTIZAN SITUATION, BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY.
MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHO YOU GET.
DON'T SAY WE'RE NOT THE POLICE BECAUSE.
THEY ARE. YOU CAN DO A CURSORY CHECK.
THAT MAN OVER THERE IN THE CORNER THAT SAID THIS MEETING WAS HELD, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS IF I HADN'T BEEN CALLING UP THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE ON A TOTALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS MEETING, I WOULD NEVER HAVE KNOWN.
AND THIS IS AN EMPTY ROOM, CONSIDERING THE NUMBER OF CITIZENS YOU HAVE IN THIS AREA.
WHEN YOU HAVE TO OPEN UP ALL THE DOORS AND WINDOWS TO GET PEOPLE IN HERE.
KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YOU'RE. YOU'RE AFTER HIM.
PHILIP CORCORAN, 1878 WIND DRIVE.
WITH ALL THIS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN THROUGH IN THE LAST TEN OR 15 YEARS, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CONSIDER ANYBODY WITHOUT DOING A FULL BACKGROUND CHECK AND COMPLETELY VETTED IN PERSON. WE DON'T WANT THE FBI IN HERE AGAIN.
I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.
THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS FROM FROM HERE.
IF DID OR STUCK WITH MAKING THIS DECISION.
AND IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION.
SO HOW WILL IT GO? YOU WILL CONSIDER EVERYBODY'S RESUME AND EVERYBODY PICKS ONE AND WE DISCUSS THE THE FOUR THAT YOU PICK OR HOW IS IT GOING TO GO AND WILL IT BE DONE PUBLICLY IN A VENUE WHERE THE THE ELECTORATE GETS TO SEE WHAT QUESTIONS WERE ASKED AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SO WHILE HE'S COMING UP, MYSTERIES, ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THIS MORE ON A RANKING BASIS LIKE WE DO BOARD MEMBERS? IS THAT HOW YOU ENVISION THIS? YES, MAYOR. IN ADDITION TO THE APPLICATION, EACH INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE PURSUANT TO THE CODE.
SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HAVE EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPLETE A RESIDENCY OF CANDIDATE AFFIDAVIT FORM, WHICH INCLUDES THAT THEY ARE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY, THEY ARE A REGISTERED VOTER, THEY RESIDE AT A CITY ADDRESS.
AND IF THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY FELONIES, THAT THEY'VE HAD THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS RESTORED.
SO THAT WILL BE INCLUDED WITH THE APPLICATION.
AND THEN ONCE COUNCIL REVIEWS ALL THE APPLICATIONS, IT WILL BE A RANKING SYSTEM.
NOW, JUST AS YOU DO WITH THE BOARD APPLICATION.
AND AND I SEE THAT AND I GUESS WE COULD DISCUSS THIS LATER.
BUT OUR THE JOB APPLICATIONS, IF I'M NOT.
I MAY BE MISTAKEN, BUT OUR CITY JOB APPLICATIONS, THEY THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
I REALIZE THAT. BUT IT ASKED IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY ARRESTS AND WHAT THE OUTCOME HAS BEEN.
IS THAT ACCURATE? THIS WOULD NOT BE A JOB APPLICATION.
THIS IS OUR BOARD APPLICATION.
I'M JUST ASKING THE JOB APPLICATIONS.
DO THEY HAVE HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ARRESTED? MADAM CHAIRMAN, IS THAT.
CAN YOU. IT SAYS ON THE BOARD ON THIS APPLICATION CANADA AFFIDAVIT, IT SAYS, HAVE YOU BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY? NOT ON THE CANDIDATE AFFIDAVIT ON THE ACTUAL BOARD APPLICATION.
SO IT SAYS, HAVE YOU BEEN ARRESTED ON THE BOARD APPLICATION? I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME.
I'M CLARK. AND CAN YOU PROVIDE THAT TO US, PLEASE? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
SORRY. NATHAN WHITE 1301 SEA BREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.
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NOT WITH RESPECT TO THE RESOLUTION DECLARING THE VACANCY.THERE'S NOT REALLY AN OPTION THERE.
IT'S A KIND OF FORMALITY IN A WAY.
BUT CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCES REGARDING WHO SITS ON THIS DAIS IN ANY CAPACITY SHOULD HAVE THE MAXIMUM PUBLIC INPUT. I HEARD AN ANSWER TO WHY WE'RE DOING THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT.
THE NOTICE. THE NOTICE WAS SHORT.
THERE ARE 18 RESIDENTS IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW.
AND IF YOU RECALL, WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE OR POSTED, I SHOULD SAY IN THE AGENDA TO REMOVE SPECIAL ELECTIONS FROM THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS POSTED ON A ON A FRIDAY, THE ORDINANCE BY THURSDAY, SIX DAYS.
OVER 300 PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO A COUNCIL MEETING.
SO 1 TO 2 DAYS NOTICE VERSUS SIX DAYS MAKES A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
SO WE HEARD WHY WE'RE DOING IT IN GENERAL.
IS THERE A SPECIFIC REASON WE'RE DOING THAT AT THIS MEETING INSTEAD OF SAVING THAT PART TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE THAT QUESTION.
MOTHER JONES OR THE CITY ATTORNEY, ADAM SMITH.
THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT WOULD BE AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON MARCH 2ND.
SO WE NEEDED TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED FOR THE ORDINANCE IN ORDER TO START SOLICITING APPLICATIONS.
MAYOR, I WILL NOTE AS FAR AS HE SAID, THE PRIOR REGULAR MEETING WHERE THERE WERE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS HERE AT THAT MEETING, IT WAS AT WHAT THE PROCESS WAS AND COUNCIL DID STATE WHAT THE PROCESS WAS.
THIS IS REALLY ABOUT CODIFYING THE PROCESS, BUT THE PROCESS THAT COUNCIL WAS GOING TO USE AND WHAT COUNCIL PROVIDED A CONSENSUS WAS, WAS STATED AT THAT REGULAR MEETING IN WHICH THE ROOM WAS PACKED. SO THIS ISN'T ACTUALLY SOMETHING NEW IS WHAT IS DOING.
IT IS MAKING SURE THAT IT LEGALLY FOLLOWS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, THAT IT IS CODIFIED.
IT'S NOT JUST THE CONSENSUS, IT'S NOT JUST A POLICY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE YOU WEIGHING IN.
WHAT WAS WHAT WAS IT? WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION GOING TO BE A PUBLIC PROCESS.
IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A RANKING PROCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO RANK THE APPLICATIONS AND AND WHOEVER WHOEVER YOUR NEXT MAN.
DAWN, BATTER FOUR, SEVEN, NINE.
LET ME BEGIN BY CHEERING THE NEW ROADS.
ON A SEPARATE NOTE, I HOPE THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND SOMEBODY TO SERVE THE CITY.
WE'VE DONE SO MUCH GOOD WORK HERE.
IT WOULD BE SAD TO SEE AN ALL UNRAVEL JUST BASED ON.
OKAY. A MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON, RIGHT? WE DON'T BRING DOWN A WHOLE PROCESS BASED ON JUST A MOMENT.
SO I'M HOPING, GIVEN ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING ALL OVER THE PLACE, THAT WE SEE PEOPLE TRYING TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GOVERN WHO DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE AND DON'T KNOW OUR CITY.
PLEASE CONSIDER ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING FORWARD.
WE'RE AT A TIPPING POINT AND AND A GOOD ONE.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO GO BACKWARDS.
WE ONLY WANT TO MARCH FORWARD.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? THIRD COME UP. YOU SPOKE AT THE LAST ITEM.
DID YOU WANT TO COME SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
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AND ZINC. OH 570 SHERMAN STREET SOUTHEAST.AND I'LL START OFF WITH APOLOGIZING FOR BEING OUT OF ORDER.
SO THIS ONE'S GOING TO BE SHORT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN APPLICATION.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE PAST, WHEN I ASKED ABOUT IT IN THE LAST WEEK, I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE A BOARD APPLICATION AND NOW THAT MIGHT BE TWEAKED A LITTLE BIT. AND WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT IT IS TWEAKED AND HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION TO BE HELPFUL TO YOU ALL TO MAKE THIS SERIOUS DECISION FOR OUR CITY AND THAT WE DON'T REPEAT PAST MISTAKES.
AND ACCORDING TO THE ATTORNEY, IF IT'S OKAY TO PUT ON THERE, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN CONVICTED OF SOMETHING? I DON'T THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD OBJECT TO THAT IF IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE.
AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO WEIGHT IT? I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE WEIGHTED WITH A POINT SYSTEM, BUT IS IT? OH, I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY FOR 50 YEARS AND SO I SHOULD HAVE 50 POINTS.
OR IS IT? AND I'M BEING SILLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET MY POINT.
IS IT GOING TO BE ONE POINT FOR EACH ONE AND ONE A LITTLE MORE WEIGHTED IT? WILL THERE BE A PLACE WHERE SOMEBODY COULD WRITE A SUMMARY OF WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS, THAT THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD DO.
THANK YOU. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM. STEP FORWARD.
I DON'T LIVE HERE, BUT I USED TO.
WHEN YOU DO THIS RANKING, ARE THE PEOPLE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST A CANDIDATE? ONCE WE KNOW WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE? NO, MA'AM. AT THAT POINT, WE THE COUNCIL RANKS, IF IT'S LIKE THE BOARD, AND I GUESS WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT NO, MA'AM, WE'LL WE'LL BE RANKING.
WE'LL CONSIDER THE APPLICATIONS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW.
RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS AN APPLICATION FOR MEMBERSHIP, FOR BOARDS AND COMMITTEES.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PLUMB LINE, IF YOU WILL.
AND IT'S GOT ALL SORTS OF QUESTIONS ON EMPLOYMENT.
YOU CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE INFORMATION.
LIKE MS. JANICE SAID, ONE OF ONE OF THE DISPOSITIONS OF BEING CONVICTED.
THERE'S A QUESTION ARE HAVE YOU BEEN CONVICTED OR PLEADED GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO ANY CRIMINAL CHARGES? SO THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE LISTED.
AND I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO START START THAT PROCESS.
BUT WHEN IN THE PAST, WHEN THOSE BOARD APPLICATIONS COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND SAY THERE'S LIKE THREE CANDIDATES, EVERYONE ON THE DAIS RANKS ONE WHO THEY FEEL IS ONE RANKS WHO'S TWO AND WHO'S THREE AS A AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THEN WHOEVER GETS THE MOST NUMBER ONES, I GUESS, IS THE ONE THAT WOULD BE SELECTED.
AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT, MA'AM? YES. WELL, YOU'VE RECEIVED THE LOWEST NUMBER WOULD BE APPOINTED TO COUNSEL.
OKAY. AND I'M JUST THINKING THAT THIS ISN'T REALLY A BOARD APPOINTMENT, BECAUSE WHOEVER IS UP THERE HAS CONTROL OVER THE BUDGET OF OVER 100,000 PEOPLE IN TAXES.
SO I DON'T THINK THE SAME CRITERIA SHOULD BE USED FOR A BOARD POSITION AND A COUNCIL POSITION.
THANK YOU. MA'AM, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM. STEP FORWARD.
NATHAN ROSS 717 WARNING COVE CIRCLE.
WHAT IS WHAT IS YOUR CANDIDATE? WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? LIKE, HOW WILL HE FIT INTO YOUR GROUP? THAT'S MY. I MEAN, YOUR VISIONS.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO? WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? I DON'T CARE WHETHER I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THEIR THAT THEY'RE DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL.
WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU LOOKING FOR? WE CAN ALL THE THREE OF US HERE IN THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S ON THE PHONE, WE CAN ANSWER THAT IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
RIGHT? I CAN I CAN SAY FOR ME.
AND THAT COULD BE IN ANY DIFFERENT FACETS.
AND I KNOW THAT FOR ME, I'M JUST GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE DIFFERENT QUALIFICATIONS.
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BUT I AM STERN ON, I BELIEVE BECAUSE.BECAUSE. THE PEOPLE AREN'T SELECTING THE INDIVIDUAL.
WE ARE. I REALLY, TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR MORE, JUST LIKE IF THEY WERE EMPLOYEES.
BECAUSE FACE IT, WE'RE EMPLOYEES.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY AND WE'RE CONSIDERED EMPLOYEES.
WE MAY BE ELECTED OFFICIALS, BUT WE'RE CONSIDERING EMPLOYEES.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MA'AM, THERE'S JUST NOT ONE FIT CRITERIA.
WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE ON A PERSON SITTING ON THIS.
WELL HOPEFULLY THAT THAT THAT'LL PAN OUT WHEN WE MAKE THE SELECTION.
YEAH. AND YOU GUYS, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO MAKE THE DECISION OF 120,000 PEOPLE MAKE DECIDE ON HOW, HOW OUR LIVES GO GOING FORWARD. SO THAT'S A BIG TASK.
SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL THOUGHT OF WHEN YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.
I'LL BE THAT. MA'AM, I AGREE WITH YOU.
THE PEOPLE VOTED THIS PAST NOVEMBER TO GIVE US THAT THAT CHALLENGE.
I PREFER THAT THE PEOPLE ALWAYS CHOOSE WHO SITS UP ON HERE BECAUSE IT IS A JOB INTERVIEW.
RIGHT. AND THAT'S HOW I'VE ALWAYS TAKEN THE ELECTION PROCESS.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US UP HERE HAS FACED THAT.
THIS IS THE DIFFERENT CRITERIA TODAY.
SO BUT THANK YOU FOR FOR COMING UP AND ENGAGING WITH US, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. AND, MR. STICE, DID YOU ALREADY SPEAK ALREADY, OR ARE YOU JUST WAVING? HELLO, OK.
GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TERRY MILLER, 2796, FIESTA AVENUE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
JUST WANT TO SAY YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB SINCE YOU RAN FOR MAYOR.
WE DO NEED ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT FROM HERE, WHAT EVERYBODY IS SAYING I MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD REFLECT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL'S CONSTITUENTS JUST TO MAKE IT FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
AS FAR AS HIS IMAGE GOES, AND I THINK WE JUST NEED TO YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS ARE MOVING FAST ENOUGH FROM WHAT I SEEN, AND I DON'T THINK THERE WAS REALLY A TIME FRAME FOR YOU GUYS TO DO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS SOMETHING NEW.
SO JUST WANT TO SAY I TRUST YOU GUYS OPINION AND MAY GOD GUIDE YOU ALL IN YOUR DECISION.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE.
MOST IMPROVED ON ITS 2023 DASH TEN FIRST READING.
SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
YES, MAN, I MADE THE MOTION, BUT ALSO BECAUSE WE NEED A MOTION TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.
SO I WANT IF I COULD PASS IT TO YOU.
I WANTED TO HEAR WHAT YOUR TAKE ON HOW TO ADD A LITTLE MORE TEETH TO THIS.
SO. YES, SIR. AND GOD BLESS YOU.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I REALLY THINK THIS IS A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY FOR US, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.
AND I WAS TRULY BLESSED THAT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY SELECTED ME ONE OUT OF FOUR.
RIGHT. AND YOU'RE RIGHT THAT WITH THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS, TERRY, THAT THAT MADE THAT CHOICE.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US HAVE HAVE GONE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
BUT THE ONUS WAS THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE VOTED MADE THAT SELECTION.
AND SO WHEN THE PEOPLE CHOOSE, THAT'S WHAT OUR THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT.
THAT'S WHAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT.
THIS PAST NOVEMBER, OUR PEOPLE, OUR BOSSES DECIDED THAT THEY WANT US TO MAKE THAT SELECTION.
THAT'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY, GENTLEMEN.
AND SO AS PART OF THAT SELECTION PROCESS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BACKGROUND CHECK THAT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANYTHING FOOLPROOF.
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RIGHT. AND SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE LAST MEETING, I, I WANTED US TO TAKE A DRUG TEST.
BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID GO TAKE THAT DRUG TEST THIS PAST WEEK.
BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
BUT ANYWAY, I THINK I THINK PART OF PART OF THAT.
OH, SO THAT'S THAT'S A PUBLIC RECORD YOU MIGHT WANT TO.
YEAH, THE GUY TOLD ME I PASSED.
THANK YOU, COUNSEL. I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH ADDING LANGUAGE IN REGARDS TO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
I WANTED TO REFER TO MADAM CITY ATTORNEY FIRST ON THE LEGAL ASPECT OF THAT.
WELL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH IT DOES HAVE LEGAL IMPLICATIONS BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE 60 DAYS.
I HAVE TALKED TO THE HR DIRECTOR AND I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HAVE A BACKGROUND CHECK.
I WAS TOLD IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
THERE IS A MORE ABBREVIATED TEST THAT CAN BE WELL, JUST WITH THE FLORIDA RECORD, WHICH COULD PROBABLY BE DONE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, OF COURSE, I WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A FORM WHERE ANYBODY WE'RE GETTING A BACKGROUND CHECK, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSENT TO THAT BACKGROUND CHECK.
AND YOU ALL ARE ALSO NOT, AT LEAST TO MY KNOWLEDGE, CHARGE YOU FOR THIS.
AND I BELIEVE JUST TO GET A FLORIDA BACKGROUND, WE CAN PROBABLY GET THAT RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
AND I BELIEVE THE COST WOULD BE $45.
BUT YOU'RE REALISTICALLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE SAME THING AS CITY EMPLOYEES.
AND THAT THAT COST OF THE 45 THAT WOULD BE ON THE APPLICANT'S.
OR THE CITY. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYONE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT CHARGING AN APPLICATION FEE.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT CHARGING AN APPLICATION FEE, THEN IT'S GOING TO BE A CITY EXPENSE.
SO I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE FOR A $45 CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
HOW WOULD THIS NEED TO BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE LIKE THAT? MR.. MADAM ATTORNEY.
THIS IS THE SUGGESTION THAT THE MAYOR BROUGHT UP.
SO SINCE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT NOW, IT WILL BE ADDED NOW AND THEN.
IT'S CLOSED NOW, BUT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SECOND READING TO DISCUSS THIS AGAIN AS WELL.
YOU HAVE A SOLICITATION PERIOD.
AND THEN AFTER THAT SENTENCE, BECAUSE THAT SENTENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE SOLICITATION PERIOD OF 30 DAYS OR CLOSE THERETO SHALL BE GIVEN FOR THE RECEIPT OF APPLICATIONS, IF YOU WANT IT TO REQUIRE AN APPLICATION.
CANDIDATES WOULD PAY AN APPLICATION FEE OF $45 THAT WOULD BE USED FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE MOST LOGICAL PLACE FOR IT.
OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO CARRY ON.
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BUT GUESS THE 45.NOW, WHAT IF YOU DID MENTION THAT THEY HAVE TO CONSENT TO I MEAN, TO TO THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
WHAT IF. PERSON CHOOSE NOT TO? DOES THAT REASON FOR DISQUALIFICATION AUTOMATICALLY? OR IF YOU ALL ARE REQUIRING IT, THEN IT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT BECAUSE THE PERSON HAS TO MEET THE LEAST THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF STATE, WHICH IS WHAT THE WHOLE POINT OF THE RESIDENCY CANDIDATE AFFIDAVIT IS.
THEY WOULD ONLY BE SUBJECT TO THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
IS YOU ALL ARE YOU ALL ARE DECIDING NOW, IF YOU ALL DECIDE THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE REQUIRED.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE STATUTORY.
THESE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU ARE CREATING.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT AS WELL.
EVEN THE INDIVIDUAL DECLINED TO CONSENT AND SENT TO TO THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
THAT SHOULD BE A REASON FOR DISQUALIFICATION OR YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE IT BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE APPLICATION THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION TO COMPLETE THE CANDIDATE AFFIDAVIT AND A CONSENT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
THEN HE HAS TO PULL HIS MOTION FOR WELL, PULL YOUR SECOND, I PULL MY SECOND.
OKAY. AND THEN I'LL AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE A $45 APPLICATION FEE FOR THE APPLICANT FOR A BACKGROUND FOR A REQUIRED BACKGROUND CHECK IN THE EVENT.
IF THEY DO NOT SUBMIT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK, THEN THE APPLICATION IS NOT IS DISQUALIFIED.
SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. I KNOW THAT YOU'RE.
YOU'RE THINKING THAT I'M GLAD YOU'RE NOT.
YOU CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE PRETTY.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH MANY BACKGROUND CHECKS.
THE VERY TOP SECRET CLEARANCE, BACKGROUND CHECKS, MILITARY AND FEDERAL GUN.
AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION OF VOLUNTEER PERSONS WHO VOLUNTEER TO SERVE ON THE CITY.
WE DON'T MAKE ANY BOARD MEMBERS GO THROUGH A BACKGROUND CHECK.
I DIDN'T GO THROUGH A BACKGROUND CHECK WHEN I RAN FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T THINK. COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX WENT THROUGH A BACKGROUND CHECK.
I'M NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE REQUIREMENT, THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY FOR US TO REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK IF THE INDIVIDUAL, AFTER WHAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE PAST WEEK, WE HAVE THE CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.
WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THIS JOB? AND. IN 2024, THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, AND I'M QUITE SURE THEIR OPPONENT IS GOING TO BRING UP WHATEVER.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET EMBARRASSED.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE EMBARRASSED.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE EMBARRASSED.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE A JOB THAT A BACKGROUND CHECK IS NECESSARY.
BECAUSE WE GOT TOO MANY CHECKS AND BALANCES.
YOU DON'T SIGN MY SIGNATURE, DON'T GO ON ANY PAPERWORK TO APPROVE CASH.
SOMETHING FROM THE CITY FUNDS.
NOT ONE. I DON'T CARRY A FIREARM TO DO MY JOB AND ARREST PEOPLE.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS MY POINT IS THIS.
IF I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, IT SHOULD BE OPTIONAL.
THE INDIVIDUAL WHO APPLIED FOR THIS APPOINTMENT AND SAID, YEAH, I PAY THE $45 TO DO BACKGROUND CHECK OR NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
IF THAT MAKES THIS PERSON DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE BACKGROUND CHECK, THIS PERSON DID.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE A REQUIREMENT FOR ME TO SELECT SOMEBODY.
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IF YOU'RE A CRIMINAL IS GOING TO SHOW.YOU COULD GO THROUGH ALL THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
I KNOW SOME OF THE RICHEST PEOPLE AT ALL KINDS OF CLEARANCE AND THEY WIND UP TO BE CRIMINALS.
INTEGRITY, MORALS AND WHAT THEY DO.
AND FOR AN ELECTION LESS THAN 18 MONTHS.
WE ALREADY GET PEOPLE TO APPLY BEFORE WE EVEN PASS THIS ORDINANCE.
AND THE CITY GOT TO RUN A BACKGROUND CHECK WITH THE STAFFING FOR THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO PASS OUR CONSTITUTION DUTIES.
AND THAT WASN'T IN THE ORDINANCE.
ORDINANCE. EXCUSE ME, THAT WAS IN THE CHARTER THAT WE REQUIRE A BACKGROUND CHECK TO SELECT SOMEBODY.
SO I WANT TO STICK TO THE CHARTER.
NOW WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES AGAIN.
THE KEY CHARTER THIS THIS BOARD PROCESS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY MONTHS, MANY YEARS.
IT'S NOT NEW. LET'S CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
LET'S NOT CHANGE THE GAME AT THE LAST MINUTE.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, SIR.
YOU KNOW, WITH A YEAR AND A HALF.
BUT I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
I'M CALLING THE QUESTION ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I.
CAN I GET A ROLL CALL? MS.. YES, I.
THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.