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THANK EVERYONE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 1ST IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.
[CALL TO ORDER:]
WARNER, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? HERE. ALL THE ROW, PLEASE.MR WARNER PRESIDENT MR WEINBERG, PRESIDENT MR KARAFFA AND MR EDWARDS, OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, IS PRESENT AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]
DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 1ST MEETING? SO MOVED. SECOND.I. THE BENEFITS OF THE APPLICANTS AND THE AUDIENCE OF PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. LAW WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION, THEN THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICATION.
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD AT THIS TIME.
THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND HEARING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.
[NEW BUSINESS:]
YOU HAVE TWO CASES.CP NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
CP FIVE AND NUMBER FOUR Z 18, 20, 23 THAT HAVE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
WE ALSO JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 5 TO 12 2023.
THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT PRESENT FOR THAT MEETING.
CASE CP FIVE 2023 TO APRIL 5TH.
SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
CASE Z 18, 2023 TO THE APRIL 5TH MEETING.
MOTION TO CONTINUE A CASE T 12 2023 TO THE APRIL 5TH MEETING.
SECOND. IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. AYE, AYE.
HEY, IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THOSE CASES, THEY WILL BE CONTINUED TILL THE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
MADAM CHAIR. MADAM CHAIR, JUST REAL QUICK, IF I COULD ASK STAFF, WHO IS THE EXPERT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN HOUSE, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THAT WOULD BE OUR CITY ENGINEER, FRANK WATANABE.
GOTCHA. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE FIRST CASE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, Q3 2023.
WHITE, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
STEPHEN WHITE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS Q THREE 2023 APPLICANT IS DAVID MOALLEM AND ERIC GARCIA, SALES OF U-HAUL OF EASTERN CENTRAL FLORIDA.
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THE CURRENT ZONING IS CC COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND THE FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL.THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY.
A COUPLE OF THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION IS PROHIBITED FROM HAVING DOORS FACING RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES OTHER THAN INGRESS AND EGRESS LOCATION.
THE CURRENT PROPOSAL DOES NOT SHOW ANY DOORS OTHER THAN INGRESS EGRESS AT THIS LOCATION AND THE CONDITION WILL BE APPLICABLE TO ALL FUTURE SITE PLANS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE.
THE ORIGINAL PLAN SUBMITTED DID NOT INDICATE WHETHER IT WAS ONE WAY OR TWO WAY TRAFFIC.
IQOO THREE, 2023 DOES MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF APPROVAL AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THIS REPORT, WHICH WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE ADDRESSED DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.
AND FOR THE RECORD, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT OF THE CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT, IT WAS BROUGHT IN TO US AND PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT AFTER IT WAS ALREADY UPLOADED. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN EXECUTED AND RECORDED WITH THE CLERK OF COURT.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
MR WHY DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, YES, MADAM. JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
SO, UH, IS THIS AN EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT U-HAUL THAT'S ALREADY THERE? NO, IT'S.
IT'S JUST A SELF STORAGE. ANOTHER STIPULATION IS, IS THIS PROPERTY, IF APPROVED BY YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL APPROVES, IT IS THEY CANNOT USE THAT BUILDING OR EXCUSE ME, THAT PROPERTY FOR OVERFLOW STORAGE OF U-HAUL VEHICLES AND ANYTHING NOT ASSOCIATED WITH SELF STORAGE.
THANK YOU. BOEREMA ARE THEY GOING TO BE CONNECTED IN ANY WAY? THE ACCESS AGREEMENT GOING THROUGH AS OF RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO PLANS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK TO THAT, WHAT THEY HAVE FOR THE FUTURE PLANS.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.
AND EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ERIC GARCIA SALAS.
I'M REPRESENTING CONTINUO GROUP OUT OF ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
755 COMMERCE DRIVE, SUITE 800.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF U-HAUL AND JUST WANTED TO.
OKAY. BASICALLY, WHAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS SITTING BEHIND THE PUBLIX AND ALL THE OTHER AREAS IS JUST AN EMPTY LOT CURRENTLY IS.
SO U-HAUL HAS GRANTED ALREADY AN ACCESS EASEMENT TO IT.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. DON, WE WILL HAVE ACCESS FROM THE U-HAUL PORTION INTO THE U-HAUL AREA.
THERE IS ONLY ONE ACCESS AT THIS MOMENT.
THEY COME IN. IT IS REALLY NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE MOST PART.
IT WILL BE MOSTLY FOR U-HAUL EMPLOYEES.
AT THIS MOMENT, WE DO HAVE IT AS A TWO WAY.
SO MOST OF OUR DRIVEWAYS ARE 30FT.
SO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR EVERYBODY.
WE DO HAVE A STORMWATER POND AND DETENTION SYSTEM ALREADY SITUATED AND PLANNED FOR.
IT IS A SECLUDED PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS, LIKE I SAID, BEHIND OTHER AREAS IN THERE.
SO. IS NOT FRONTING ANY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SO THERE IS NOTHING ELSE BACK.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S REALLY ALL WE HAVE.
IT'S A PRETTY CUT DRY PROJECT, I THINK IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT YOU HOLD CURRENTLY.
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DOES IT WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF STORAGE BACK THERE, BUT FOR THE MOST PART.WARNER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SO THERE'LL BE NO STREET ENTRANCE OR EXIT.
UH, TO THE EAST? NO, THERE IS NO.
THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF YOU OR TO THE EAST OF YOU? CORRECT. SO CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS LANDLOCKED ITSELF BY THE CURRENT LOCATION THAT IT IS.
THE PROPERTY AT THE NORTH IS A DENTIST OFFICE.
THE PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE WEST IS THE PUBLIX.
THAT'S THE ONLY ACCESS THAT WE HAVE IS GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THERE.
NO OTHER ACCESS STILL IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE SOUTH.
THERE IS A THERE IS RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH.
WE'RE GOING TO BE BLOCKED IN BY A DETENTION POND BACK THERE THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A BIG BUFFER THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN US AND THEM.
BUT ALSO, I THINK THERE'S AN ACCESS EASEMENT BACK THERE AS WELL THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCESS.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING. WE'RE NOT GOING THAT FAR DOWN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
TWO QUESTIONS FOR YOU. IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, THE MAJORITY AND MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE ME A ROUGH PERCENTAGE OF THIS OF THIS SQUARE FOOTAGE IS GOING TO BE USED BY THE U-HAUL EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES, MOVING THE BOXES.
CUSTOMERS AREN'T INVOLVED WITH THE KEEPING OF THE BOXES, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE MAIN PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
IS IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE NORTH PORTION OF THIS PRIMARY BUILDING THAT YOU SEE IN THERE.
SO, YES. AND THEN THE THE PORTION THAT'S GOING TO BE SELF STORAGE, IS IT GOING TO BE SELF STORAGE SIMILAR TO WHAT U-HAUL HAS IN THE PARKING LOT OF THEIR CURRENT FACILITY NOW WHERE IT'S JUST THOSE KIND OF ROWS THAT ARE COMPLETELY OUTSIDE? OR IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE AN INTERNAL BUILDING? NO, IT'S GOING TO BE THE DRIVE UP ONES THAT YOU CAN JUST ROLL IT.
YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE DRIVE UP ONES.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE SAME STRUCTURES THAT THEY HAVE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
YES. OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS, HOW WOULD THIS PROJECT BE AFFECTED BY THE PUBLIX RENOVATION PROJECT? BECAUSE AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HALF OF THE U-HAUL IS HALF, LET ME SAY OBJECTIVELY IS, YOU KNOW, SO LONG IN THE FUTURE ARE GOING TO REMAIN IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAZA TO THE LEFT.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAZA TO THE RIGHT, THE ENTIRE THING IS GOING TO BE LEVELED.
HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THIS PROJECT? SO AS FAR AS OUR PROJECT IS CONCERNED, I DON'T THINK THAT IT WILL HAVE ANY EFFECT ON THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT.
THE OVERALL LOOK OF IT, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IT SCREENED WELL ENOUGH TO WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE AN IMPACT TO THE FUTURE PUBLIX OR WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO DECIDE TO PUT IN THERE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S REALLY NOT A VISIBLE AREA FOR EITHER PORTION.
SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT WILL REALLY AFFECT EITHER VISUAL OR THE WAY THAT IT'S GOING TO END UP LOOKING AS FAR AS USE ALL THE U-HAUL TRAFFIC IS JUST GOING TO COME IN FROM THE U-HAUL AREA.
ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE AN EASTMAN ON THAT SIDE IS THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN GET IN AND OUT.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT EVENTUALLY IS GOING TO BE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS ALTOGETHER.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REALLY MIX OR HAVE AN EFFECT WITH EACH OTHER.
YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINISHED BEFORE THEM? HOPEFULLY IF THIS GOES WELL.
AND THE REASON I'M SAYING IT OUT LOUD AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP IT IN YOUR MIND IS IF YOUR EASEMENT IS AT THE SOUTHERNMOST PORTION OF LAND THAT YOU GUYS CAN AUTHORIZE AN EASEMENT. BUT U-HAUL OWNS AND IF ANY, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, THE CONSTRUCTION IS SLATED TO BLOCK THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN A PICKLE.
RIGHT. SO JUST KIND OF TRYING TO HAVE THAT FORWARD THINKING.
YEAH, NO, ABSOLUTELY. AND I HEAR YOU.
SO OUR EASTMAN IS ALREADY BEEN TURNED IN.
SO EVERYTHING IS GOOD AS FAR AS OUR END.
SO WE DO HAVE FULL ACCESS ON THE SOUTH PORTION AND.
SO THEREFORE, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO HAVE ONE ACCESS ENTRANCE.
SO IT WON'T MATTER AT ALL WHAT THEY DO ON THE ACCESS.
WE STILL HAVE OUR NORTH ACCESS.
WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. QUESTION.
WHERE IS YOUR ENTRANCE GOING TO BE LOCATED ON THAT PROPERTY? IS GOING TO BE TO THE NORTH.
IT'S AT THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY? YES. THE NORTH END? YES, AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY.
SO WE'VE HAD ANY MEETINGS WITH PUBLIX AT ALL? WE DID. WE DID HAVE SOME MEETINGS WITH PUBLIX AND NOT MYSELF PERSONALLY, BUT U-HAUL REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE HERE.
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AND IT WASN'T WITH PUBLIX THEMSELVES, BUT IT WAS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THAT AREA.AND SO THEY HAVE SET DOWN WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS.
AND SO EVERYBODY IS FULLY AWARE OF THE PROJECT AND EVERYBODY IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.
I IMAGINE IF THEY WEREN'T, THEY'LL BE HERE TONIGHT.
FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? OPPOSED. SEEING NONE.
OR IS NOW CLOSED. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE REGARDING THIS CASE.
IT'S NOW BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD, OR DO I HAVE A MOTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION TO APPROVE.
Q THREE 2023 SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
SECOND. OK MR WEINBERG SECOND BY MR. OLSZEWSKI. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
GOOD EVENING. JESSE ANDERSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
OUR SECOND CASE TONIGHT IS CP TWO 2023, AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS LOAFS PARCEL.
IT IS LOCATED NORTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MICCO ROAD, SOUTHEAST IN THE VICINITY OF INTERSTATE 95.
IT IS ROUGHLY 353.47 ACRES IN LAND AND THE EXISTING LAND USE IS MICCO PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT.
AND FOR THAT OVERALL ANALYSIS WE HAVE THE INTENDED RESULTS.
HAVING A PARKWAY FLEX USE DEVELOPMENT WHICH WOULD BE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE AS IT PROVIDES A DIVERSE AND MIXED DIVERSE MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL USES AND PROVIDES FOR A MORE EFFICIENT DISTRIBUTION OF COMPATIBLE LAND USES THROUGHOUT AN AREA OF THIS SIZE.
THE PROJECT WILL ALSO PROVIDE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WITH ABOUT 10.8 ACRES OF LAND ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF IT, ACTUALLY ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THIS IS FOR THE PARKWAY FLEX MIXED USE DISTRICT, AS I HAD MENTIONED, WHICH DOES HAVE ENTITLEMENTS OF UP TO TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY AT LEAST 40FT OF COMMERCIAL PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT.
SO THAT IS PART OF THE OVERALL CONTEXT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANALYSIS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.
THIS IS JUST A GENERAL PICTOGRAM.
THEY WILL HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH CONCEPTUAL PLANS, SPECIFICALLY FOR A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO GET THE PARKWAY MIXED USE DESIGNATION FOR ITS ZONING STATUS.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
MR. ANDERSON DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
FIRST OFF, BECAUSE IT DID HAVE ALREADY ESTABLISHED ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE VERY SPECIFIED, WE WERE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE THE ECHO PARK VILLAGE DISTRICT ENTITLEMENTS THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE THROUGH THE ADOPTION OF IT.
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WAY. IT'S GOING TO BE APPLICANT DRIVEN BECAUSE THE CITY DID NOT WANT TO TAKE ON ANY RISK OF CHANGING THEIR ENTITLEMENTS FOR THEM.HERE. SO IS THAT SO? IS THAT PRIMARILY THE REASON WHY WE'RE IDENTIFYING THE THE PARCELS? 507 51.
WE ARE BECAUSE OF THE I GUESS I GUESS WE'RE I GUESS WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO FIGURE OUT IS A FOR INSTANCE LIKE THE LAST CASE WITH THE PARK VILLAGE WE WE JUST CHANGED THAT ZONING TO MIXED USE.
SO WHAT IS WHAT IS THE PRIMARY THE OVERALL PRIMARY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE IMU AND THEN NOW WE'RE COMING TO THIS? ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS AREA IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS INTENSE AND LESS DENSE THAN THE OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING BEFOREHAND.
THAT WAS GOING FROM MITCHELL PARK VILLAGE, WHICH THIS IS AS WELL.
BUT THAT WAS GOING TO MIXED USE IN THE MIXED USE CATEGORY.
THE ENTITLEMENTS WERE FOR 30 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE AND UP TO 2.0 FA, WHICH IS A FLOOR AREA RATIO AND IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE MAXIMUM THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS AND THE 40FT² PER RESIDENTIAL UNIT ONLY UP TO A 1.0 FA FA, THAT'S THE FLOOR AREA RATIO AGAIN. SO THE INTENSITY AND THE DENSITY ARE LESSER HERE THAN THE OTHER PROJECT, BUT BOTH ARE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE ORIGINAL PROJECT BECAUSE THAT WAS AN URBAN SPRAWL.
THESE ARE BOTH INTENSIFYING AND DENSIFYING THE AREA, CREATING MORE WALKABILITY TO THEM, MAKING SURE THERE IS THAT COMMERCIAL ACCESS, SORRY, AND COMMERCIAL AVAILABILITY SO THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN GET TO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO CREATE ADDITIONAL TRIPS AND SO FORTH.
SO THIS IS THE MORE INTUITIVE MANNER OF PLANNING COMPARED TO THE PAST ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE MORE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY WANTED TO LOOK AT BUT WOULD NOT HAVE TOUCHED BECAUSE OF PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
SO THIS IN ESSENCE GIVES GIVE YOU GIVE THE CITY A LITTLE BIT BETTER CONTROL WITH.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ORIGINALLY, I THINK LIKE 1400 ACRES.
MAYBE IDENTIFY TO TO USE IT FOR SO THAT USES.
AND THAT DISTRICT DOES REQUIRE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO IT WILL COME THROUGH SIMILAR TO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DOES WITH THE SAME TYPE OF FRAMEWORK.
SO YOU'LL GET TO SEE VARIATIONS OF MORE DETAIL AS IT COMES ALONG THROUGH YOUR APPROVAL PROCESS SO THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO, AS A VOTING BODY, HAVE MORE CONTROL AND STAFF HAS MORE REVIEW TIME OVER THIS PROJECT AND GETS TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT IN MORE DEPTH.
I JUST MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR MICROPHONES ON.
THANK YOU. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
VILLAGE IS GOING TO BE SET UP WITH A SOLUTION FOR SCHOOL.
SO WILL THERE BE? SOMETHING DONE FOR SCHOOL INSIDE OF THIS VILLAGE.
HOW WOULD THAT BE HANDLED? SURE.
GREAT QUESTION. INSIDE OF THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS FOR A SCHOOL SITE.
IT IS UNLIKELY IF THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT COMES FORWARD THAT THIS SITE WOULD REQUIRE A SCHOOL SITE BECAUSE THERE'S ONE TALKED ABOUT AND THE OTHER ONE IN PROXIMITY, THERE WOULD BE THAT SPILLOVER EFFECT.
SO IF THEY HAVE THAT SPILLOVER IN THAT AREA, THERE'S DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO BE A NEED OVER HERE.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE COME INTO PLAY WITH IS THE SCHOOL SCHOOL CAPACITY.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S UP TO TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THEY MAY USE EIGHT, THEY MAY USE TEN.
BUT DEPENDING ON THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER FINAL SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.
AND THAT PROCESS WILL ALLOW US TO KNOW HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE POTENTIALLY GENERATED FROM THIS SITE, WHICH THEN THEY CAN FIND OUT THEIR ANALYSIS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD AND LET US KNOW WHAT TO GO FROM THERE.
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FIRST STEP IS THEY CONTACT.SO THE K SIDE AND I KNOW HOW FULL THAT.
BUT FOR US TONIGHT, WHAT WE LOOK AT IS THAT THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY APPLICATION SAID THAT THEY WERE GOOD, THEY WERE GREENLIGHTED FOR THE NEXT PHASE, PERMITTED THAT THEY GO IN, CONTACT THE SCHOOL.
SO THAT WOULD BE THEIR NEXT STEP.
OKAY. MADAM CHAIR, JUST ONE FINAL QUESTION, IF I MAY.
UH. SO IF IF WE WHEN WE IF WE CHANGE THIS TO THE TO THAT DESTINATION WILL IF THE PARKWAY DOESN'T GET FINISHED, WILL THAT PROJECT CEASE OR THEN WILL IT COME BACK TO WHERE WE CAN REZONE IT OR CHANGE THE DESIGNATION TO SOMETHING ELSE? OR IS THAT JUST A PROJECT THAT JUST SIMPLY JUST WOULD DIE IF THE PARKWAY DID NOT FINISH? SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER PROJECT, WE GOT TO FOCUS ON THIS ONE.
SO IF WE'RE FOCUSING THIS ONE, THEY DO HAVE A DEDICATION TO THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THANKS AGAIN FOR THIS PRESENTATION, MR. ANDERSON. MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANY OTHER PROJECT, PIECE OF LAND, WHAT HAVE YOU, THAT'S USING THE PARKWAY FLEX USE AT THIS TIME? YES, THERE IS OVER TOWARDS THE NORTH WESTERN PORTION OF THE CITY.
IT IS NEAR THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY EXTENSION AREA IN THE NORTHWEST, I SHOULD SAY.
OKAY. OKAY. I WAS TRYING TO DELINEATE HOW LONG THE USE HAS ACTUALLY EXISTED.
OR IF IT PREDATED THAT, IT MUST HAVE PREDATED THAT IF THAT OTHER PROJECT WAS ABLE TO FIT INTO IT.
YEAH. YEAH, WE'VE HAD IT I THINK SINCE ABOUT 2016 ISH, MAYBE, MAYBE A LITTLE EARLIER THAN THAT.
AND BECAUSE THE SAINT JOHNS IS A CONTINUING EXTENSION ITSELF, THERE'S MORE AND MORE AREA AS WELL AS CERTAIN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT WE CONSIDER PARKWAYS, THAT WE CAN ATTRIBUTE THIS TYPE OF LAND MASS TO OR THIS LAND USE TO.
OKAY. APPRECIATE THE TEXTURE THERE.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.
JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I SEE YOU GUYS ARE KIND OF LOOKING AT THIS REGIONALLY, WHICH IS GREAT.
THIS IS HOW WE'VE BEEN PLANNING THIS PROJECT AND THIS WHOLE AREA FOR DECADE PLUS NOW.
JUST TO KEEP EVERYONE FAMILIAR, THIS IS, OF COURSE, THE SITE HERE, ABOUT 350 ACRES.
I 95 IS TO OUR WEST, RUNNING NORTH SOUTH.
THIS IS THE EXISTING NEW INTERCHANGE WITH THE PARKWAY THAT RUNS TO BABCOCK STREET.
YOU'VE GOT WATERSTONE HERE, CYPRESS BAY, EAST HERE.
EMERALD LAKES IS ALL FOUR QUADRANTS AROUND THE NEW INTERCHANGE.
WE'RE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE EAST END OF THE OR THE EASTERN PORTION OF EMERALD LAKES.
MICO ROAD IS OUR SOUTHERN EXTREMITY FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO TILLEY CANAL AND EMERALD LAKES EAST IS OUR NORTHERN EXTREMITY.
WE'LL DIG A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE DETAILS OF IT, BUT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE DEVELOPER.
WE ARE A SOUTH FLORIDA BASED, VERTICALLY INTEGRATED REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT FIRM.
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WE'VE BEEN AROUND SINCE 2008.NOW AS WE AS WE LOOK TO EXPAND OUR BUSINESS.
I'M JUST A LITTLE BRIEF INFORMATION ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
WE WERE FORMED BY THREE GENTLEMEN, MYSELF, ANOTHER GENTLEMAN NAMED JOHN MARKEY AND ADAM FRIEDMAN.
DURING THE 2008 RECESSION, WHEN WE WERE ALL UNEMPLOYED AND WE STARTED OUT IN SOMEONE'S GARAGE AND BUILT IT FROM THERE, WE ARE VERTICALLY INTEGRATED, WHICH MEANS THAT WE ACQUIRE LAND, WE DESIGN PROJECTS, WE OBTAIN ENTITLEMENTS, PERMITS WE FINANCE.
WE DO HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT, VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN WE HOLD DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSETS.
SO OUR FIRM IS ABOUT 25 PEOPLE STRONG.
IT'S AN INTERDISCIPLINARY FIRM.
I'M A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, ARCHITECTS, GENERAL CONTRACTORS, CIVIL ENGINEERS, INTERIOR DESIGNERS.
SO THE WAY WE'VE FORMED THIS FIRM IS WE'RE REALLY ON IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT THE STRENGTH OF THE DESIGN, REALLY WORKING WITH WHAT THE BEST PRACTICES ARE FOR THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, MIXED USE, WALKABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY.
AND WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO REALLY ANALYZE PROJECTS ON THE FRONT END, REALLY DESIGN IT STRONGLY FROM THE FIRST POINT COMING OUT OF THE GATE AND REALLY TAKE THAT IDEA AND THAT CONCEPT.
OUR PRIMARY BUSINESS HAS BEEN RESIDENTIAL OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS.
WE'VE TRADITIONALLY BUILT FOUR STOREY GARDEN APARTMENTS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, TOWNHOMES.
WE'VE ALSO MOVED INTO MIXED USE RECENTLY WITH A COUPLE OF LARGE PROJECTS WITH WITH MEDICAL OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, INLINE RETAIL, SOME OUTPARCEL, RETAIL KIND OF A WHOLE MIX, EVEN DAYCARE EVEN LIKE FULL, FULL FLEDGED MIXED USE COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT USE TYPES COMING IN ALMOST FORM LIKE A MINI VILLAGE. I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK BACKGROUND.
AND HE IS A GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE.
AND THEN THERE'S MYSELF. I'M THE CHIEF DEVELOPMENT OFFICER, SO I'M ONE OF THE GUYS THAT LOOKS FOR PROJECTS, CONCEPTUALIZES PROJECTS, WORKS ON THE ENTITLEMENTS, THE DESIGN AND GETS IT THROUGH PERMITTING.
AND THEN I HAND IT OFF TO THE CONSTRUCTION GUYS.
I HAVE A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE DEGREE.
I'M A VIRGINIA TECH GRAD, AND THEN OUR FOURTH PRIMARY PARTNER IS BRADY HOOKER.
HE IS ALSO FROM THE FINANCE SIDE.
SO HE COMES FROM MORE OF A OF A FINANCE CORPORATE FINANCE BACKGROUND.
HE'S A DEPAUL UNIVERSITY GRADUATE, SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERSITY GRADUATE.
HE HELPS WITH SOURCING CAPITAL.
HE HELPS WITH UNDERWRITING ALL THOSE SORTS OF KEY PIECES.
YOU NEED TO ACTUALLY GET THE SHOVEL ON THE GROUND AND GET THE PROJECT GOING.
THIS IS A PROJECT IN TAMARACK, WHICH IS IN WESTERN BROWARD COUNTY.
IT'S JUST WEST OF DOWNTOWN FORT LAUDERDALE.
AND IT'S A FOUR STORY GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT PROJECT WITH ABOUT 400 UNITS AND A LARGE CLUBHOUSE.
I'M ALMOST HAVE MY CO FINGERS CROSSED.
IT'S A ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY IN CENTRAL PALM BEACH COUNTY.
IT'S 110,000 SQUARE FOOT TWO STORY BUILDING.
IT WILL BE OPERATED BY HARBORCHASE RETIREMENT ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS BASED OUT OF VERO BEACH.
THEY HAVE QUITE A FEW PROPERTIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA AND IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S A 138 RESIDENT BUILDING WITH 100 ASSISTED LIVING RESIDENTS AND 38 MEMORY CARE RESIDENTS.
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IT'S A VERY LARGE EQUESTRIAN AREA, A LARGE SUBURBAN HUB FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY.BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS, I HAVE ABOUT 120 ACRES, AND THIS IS A TRUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
I HAVE 685 UNITS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL, WHICH RANGE FROM SINGLE FAMILY LOTS TO TWO STORY TOWNHOMES, FOUR STORY GARDEN APARTMENTS, INDEPENDENT LIVING IN FOUR STORIES, AND THEN ASSISTED MEMORY CARE, LIVING IN A TWO STORY STRUCTURE.
AND I ALSO HAVE OVER 1.2 MILLION FEET OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
I HAVE A LARGE DAYCARE FACILITY.
I HAVE MEDICAL OFFICE, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND A RANGE OF SOME OTHER USES FOR THAT.
AND THAT'S A QUICK INTRODUCTION ON US.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE UP HERE AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
WE THINK THE PARCEL, EVEN THOUGH IT HAS THAT HISTORY OF BEING USED FOR MINING, WE THINK THAT LAKE OFFERS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DEVELOP AROUND IT, KIND OF IN A SIMILAR MANNER TO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN WELLINGTON, BECAUSE THAT PROJECT ALSO HAD A LARGE STRIP MINE LAKE ON IT THAT WE'VE ENHANCED AND USED TO CREATE GREENWAY SPACE AND PUBLIC SPACE AND AMENITIES FOR RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
AND IF NOT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JAKE.
OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
MR. OLSZEWSKI. VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR THE PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
SO I'D LIKE TO ASK, WHEN DID YOUR FIRM GET INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT AND COME ACROSS THIS PIECE OF LAND AND WHAT REALLY DREW YOUR EYE TO IT? OKAY. THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY HAS AN INTERESTING HISTORY.
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN OWNED BY AN INVESTMENT PARTNER OF OURS FOR ABOUT 5 OR 6 YEARS.
IT WAS PURCHASED OUT OF FORECLOSURE.
THEIR BUSINESS IS PRIMARILY BEEN AGRICULTURE AND THEY'VE SORT OF JUST BEEN HOLDING IT UNTIL SOME OF THESE OTHER, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENTS HAVE COME ONLINE, SPECIFICALLY THE EMERALD LAKES AND THE INTERCHANGE.
AND THERE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE MOMENTUM OF SOME OF THAT COMING ALONG.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN OWNED FOR 5 OR 6 YEARS.
WE ENTERED INTO A JOINT VENTURE AGREEMENT ABOUT 12 TO 14 MONTHS AGO WITH THAT INVESTMENT PARTNER.
AND WE'RE ALL JOINT OWNERS OF IT.
HOW DEPENDENT IS THIS PROJECT ON EMERALD LAKES OCCURRING? FOR US, IT'S NOT. AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT ORIGINALLY WE ACTUALLY DID HAVE THE ASHTON PARK PARCEL UNDER CONTRACT AND FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS, WE DECIDED TO JUST STICK WITH WHAT WE HAD. IT'S NOT 100% DEPENDENT.
AND THE PRIMARY REASON IS THE EMERALD LAKES PROJECT.
THAT'S TO OUR NORTH PROPERTY LINE.
IT ALREADY HAS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATED TO THE CITY.
IT ALREADY HAS PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATED.
YOU KNOW, THE THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT'S GOING TO BE THE THE TIMING OF WHO'S PUTTING TOGETHER THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, HOW IS THIS GOING TO GET PRICED, HOW IS IT GOING TO BE FINANCED, HOW IS IT GOING TO BE PAID FOR BY DIFFERENT PARTIES OVER A SERIES OF YEARS IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT WORK STARTED? I AM BASICALLY SIGNING HIS CONTRACT THIS WEEK TO START THE ENGINEERING AND UTILITY WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR WHATEVER'S LEFT FOR THE EMERALD PARKS COMPONENT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PAVING GRADING, DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER AND THEN FOR MY EXTENSION, WHICH GOES TO THE MICCO ROAD.
YEAH. SORRY, MADAM CHAIR, ONE MORE FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
ARE YOU PERSONALLY AWARE OF HOW THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY THAT DOES EXIST DID GET THERE? YOU DESCRIBED NUTS AND BOLTS LOGISTICS.
DO YOU KNOW HOW THE STORY ACTUALLY ENDED? I HAVE HEARD.
PARTS OF THAT STORY, I'LL INFORM YOU.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY PAID FOR IT.
I HAVE HEARD THAT IT WAS A PRIVATE ISSUE, AND THEN IT BECAME A PUBLIC ISSUE.
AND THERE WAS SOME, LET'S JUST SAY, TRAUMA INVOLVED WITH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS.
I'VE BEEN WELL AWARE BY JAKE, YOU KNOW, AS A DEVELOPER WITH THESE TYPES OF EXTENSIONS WHERE YOU HAVE TO EXTEND INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET TO YOUR PRIVATE PARCEL.
THAT'S TYPICALLY A GIVEN BECAUSE THAT'S THAT DESTINY OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE TIES INTO WHAT I CAN DO.
SO MY PREFERENCE IS TO BE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE MECHANISMS THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO TO COVER THE COSTS AND THE COST SHARING WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED AND BE ON THE FRONT LINE OF ACTUALLY COMPLETING THE CONSTRUCTION AND SELECTING THOSE SUBS AND WATCHING IT AND GETTING IT DONE.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.QUESTIONS. YOU WANTED YOU TO JUST GET TO KNOW ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THIS GROUP THAT'S COMING IN, DOING, OF COURSE, THE MIXED USE PROJECT, AND THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT REGIONAL IMPROVEMENT.
AS STAFF HAD MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU'LL SEE US AGAIN.
WE'LL BE BACK FOR A PDP ZONING FDP.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST BABY STEP OF WHAT WE'RE DOING OVERALL.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT ON THIS DIAGRAM.
YOU CAN SEE IT FOLLOWS SAME SETUP AS THIS ONE.
AND THIS JUST GIVES YOU MORE DETAIL.
THIS IS WHAT YOU'LL BE SEEING IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE COME TO YOU WITH THOSE OTHER ITEMS. BUT JUST KIND OF A SNEAK PREVIEW.
SO MIKO ROAD IS TO THE LEFT, TO THE SOUTH, SATELE CANAL, EMERALD LAKES EAST IS TO THE NORTH.
AND SO AS STAFF MENTIONED, THEIR REPORT, THERE'S EIGHT SETS OF CRITERIA THAT IS REVIEWED FOR A LAND USE TO BE APPROVED FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT.
AND WE DO MEET ALL OF THAT CRITERIA.
I PROMISE I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM UNLESS YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM.
AS YOU MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE ALREADY OUR PRELIMINARY SCHOOL CONCURRENCY REVIEW AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON A 30 ACRE SITE, AS THIS BOARD IS AWARE, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF HERE, TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.
WE'RE WORKING WITH TWO CHARTER SCHOOLS WHICH ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS WELL.
SO THAT IS FORTHCOMING FOR THIS AREA.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT NEW POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS AS SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS IN THIS REGION AS WELL.
SO AT THIS TIME, THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS PROPOSAL.
BUT IF THERE WAS A NEED, WE WOULD WORK OBVIOUSLY WITH THEM.
WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ATTEND.
SO THAT WAS A NICE, QUIET NIGHT.
THIS PROJECT, AS WAS JUST BROUGHT UP, IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF EMERALD LAKES.
EMERALD LAKES HAS ALREADY DEDICATED THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE EXTENSION OF THAT PARKWAY.
THIS SITE IDENTIFIES, YOU CAN SEE.
PARKWAY EXTENSION HERE TO MICCO ROAD.
THAT'S A 200 FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY.
25 ACRES OF THEIR LAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PROVIDE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY FOR.
THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE UTILITY EXTENSIONS RIGHT NOW.
EXPANSION IN THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH THIS WHOLE REGION, HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT EXPANSION ALONG WITH OTHER CITY WIDE NEEDS.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE PLANNING FOR THOSE EXPANSIONS AS WELL.
UM, THE WE'RE ALLOWED UP TO TEN UNITS PER ACRE AS STAFF HAD IDENTIFIED EARLIER.
WE'RE LOOKING AROUND THREE AND ONE HALF UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE AT.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR CLOSE TO WHAT WE COULD MAXIMIZE.
SO IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT'S ABOUT 50,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL.
WE'RE PROPOSING OVER 80,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL.
SO ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE BRINGING IN MORE OF WHAT WE KNOW.
COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE KNOW THIS BOARD HAS BEEN SEEING AS WELL FROM THEM.
THESE TWO LAKES ARE AN UNBELIEVABLE ASSET TO THE PROJECT.
THEY'RE ALMOST 75 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY.
SO BY THE TIME YOU ADD UP THE PARKWAY, YOU ADD UP THE LAKES.
THAT'S 100 ACRES OF THE PROJECT ALREADY.
OUR MASTER PLAN RESHAPES THEM.
IT HAS PEDESTRIAN INTERCONNECTIVITY ALL THROUGHOUT, HAS LITTLE POCKET PARTS, A LOT OF RECREATIONAL AMENITIES PLANNED TO BOTH THE EAST AND WEST OF THIS IS ALL EAGLES PROPERTY.
ENDANGERED LANDS THAT WILL BE PRESERVED IN PERPETUITY.
SO BOTH EAST AND WEST OF US, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO AS STAFF HAD MENTIONED, AGAIN, IT'S A WALKABLE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE INTERCONNECTIVITY.
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AGAIN TONIGHT IS JUST ABOUT THE LAND USE.BUT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT ELSE WAS COMING.
SO THIS BOARD HAS ALL THAT INFORMATION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU. IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? MR BATON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE BECAUSE OF THE APPROVAL OF THE OF THE MICO PARK VILLAGE APPROVAL TO THE TO THE EAST.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BECAUSE THAT ONE WOULD BE USELESS IF THIS ONE DID NOT HAPPEN.
THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE.
THAT ONE WOULD FAIL JUST BECAUSE THIS ONE WASN'T ABLE TO BE COMPLETED.
BUT YOU BROUGHT UP THE FACT OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY OF WHAT HAS COST US.
I APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE IF FOR ANY REASON, ANY ONE OF THESE THREE SEPARATE IDENTITIES FAIL.
WE FAIL ON THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY UNLESS WE SEE SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN EACH ONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS THAT COMES PRESENTED TO THE CITY. AND I'VE YET TO SEE THAT.
BUT THAT TALKING WITH SOMEBODY IS NOT THE SAME AS HAVING DOCUMENTATION.
IT'S THE DOCUMENTATION THAT GOT US IN TROUBLE LAST TIME.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION.
THAT'S WHY I ENDED UP COSTING THE RESIDENTS $9 MILLION.
THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE SEE SOME OF THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS ONE.
WHICH ONE COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? THEY'VE SAID THEY DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THE ROAD.
THEY'RE SAYING THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN FACILITIES DOWN TO THE TO THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE GOING TO PAY FOR THE ROAD.
OKAY. THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT SIDE POINT.
THE ORANGE. HOW ARE THE PEDESTRIANS? SINCE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY? HOW DO THEY GET ACROSS THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY TO GET TO THE COMMERCIAL SINCE IT'S A WALKING COMMUNITY? JUST SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO SEE THAT ALL ALONG.
MICCO ROAD ALSO AS IT COMES ALONG THE SAME CROSSINGS.
HE'S GONE INTO NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THAT EQUESTRIAN WAS A HIGH, HIGH PRIORITY.
SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE EELS PROGRAM TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET BECAUSE OTHER DEVELOPERS ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE EELS PROGRAM ALSO SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THAT EQUESTRIAN TRAIL IN THERE ALONG WITH THE WALKING TRAILS.
THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE IT SUCCEEDS.
I DON'T LIKE SEEING THE GROWTH, BUT THIS IS SMART GROWTH IN THIS AREA.
SO I HOPE IT DOES COME TO COMPLETION.
ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? FAVOR OR OPPOSED.
UM. YEAH, I'M GLAD MR. BATTEN BROUGHT THAT UP.
WE ARE WORKING BETWEEN THE THREE MAJOR DEVELOPERS IN THIS AREA.
WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH STAFF, THEY'VE HAD MEETINGS SEPARATELY.
YOU DON'T HAVE A ZONING OR A LAND USE OR RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATED.
SO IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW AND WHO IS GOING TO DO WHAT.
SO WE'LL ASK IF THE BOARD HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.
THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION OR FURTHER DISCUSSION? MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE.
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AND I THINK THAT IT'S I THINK I THINK HONESTLY THINK THAT IF IT MOVES FORWARD, IT WILL WORK.AND AND IT'S LIKE IT MAY BE A VERY, VERY GOOD PROJECT FOR THAT AREA.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HERE IS UNANIMOUSLY.
LAST CASE. MRS BERNARD, SEP SIX, 2023.
AS YOU WILL RECALL, LAST MONTH YOU HAD PRESENTED BEFORE YOU THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
SO THIS MONTH WE ARE GOING WITH THE REST OF THE ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH OUR STAFF AND CONSULTANT TO GET THESE PREPARED FOR YOU TONIGHT.
AND I HOPE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ AND LOOK OVER THEM.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK TONIGHT.
WE GET TO PRESENT THE ACTUALLY, OUR PRESENTATION OF.
BUT WE'VE GOT A LOT TO UNPACK TONIGHT.
THIS COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE PUBLIC, WITHOUT THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
COMING OUT TO THE WORKSHOPS, THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT INVESTED THEIR TIME TO TELL US ABOUT THE DIFFERENT ISSUES GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. STAFF STAYING UP LATE HOURS, HAVING MEETINGS, IMPROMPTU MEETINGS.
DIVING REALLY DEEPLY INTO A LOT OF THESE ISSUES.
SO LAST MONTH, YOU YOU SAW ME.
WE JUST LOOKED AT ONE ELEMENT, THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, WHICH WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT ENDED UP BEING A REPEAL AND REPLACE OF THE ENTIRE ELEMENT BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH CHANGE THAT REALLY IT NEEDED TO OCCUR.
BUT TONIGHT, ARE THE REST OF THE ELEMENTS.
NOW, SOME OF THEM WE DIDN'T TOUCH, MOST OF THEM WE WE TINKERED WITH.
BUT ALL IN ALL, YOU HAD A GOOD BONES OF A PLAN, SOME OF WHICH WE HAVEN'T BEEN IMPLEMENTING.
BUT WE'RE WE'RE HERE TO TO KIND OF PUT A SPOTLIGHT TO ALL THIS.
AND THE PRESENTATION IS JUST GOING TO HIGHLIGHT THE CHANGES.
YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC AND YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS OF THE DIFFERENT AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED TAX CHANGES, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. MAPS HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THAT.
UM. SEEN OUR PROJECT TEAM HERE.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS.
AS YOU KNOW, THIS GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2020 WHEN WE DID THE EAR BASED AMENDMENTS, WHICH WAS A CLEAN UP BASED ON STATE STATUTES THAT ALLOWED US KIND OF THAT FREEDOM TO GO THROUGH THE VISIONING PROCESS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT EAR PROCESS, WHICH.
AND HAMPER GOOD, SOUND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
WE HAD THE VISIONING PROCESS, TOOK US ABOUT 12 MONTHS TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE WORKSHOPS.
JUST TOUCH ON THE VISION PLAN.
REALLY WHAT YOU SEE TONIGHT IN THE PLAN IS IMPLEMENTING THE VISION.
SO TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, COASTAL MANAGEMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE, ROADS, ALL THE REST.
AND WE'RE GOING TO GO SLIDE BY SLIDE EACH EACH ELEMENT GETS A SLIDE.
AS I MENTIONED, THE STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS THROUGH SEVERAL MONTHS.
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IN NOVEMBER.SO. IN THOSE BUILT OFF EACH OTHER.
SO THAT THAT REALLY WAS TRULY A WAY TO KIND OF CONTINUE THE PROJECT THROUGH VISIONING INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE, WHICH WORKED REALLY NICELY.
WE HAD THE PROJECT WEBSITE, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD TWO WEBSITES.
WE DID THE ONE FOR THE VISIONING AND THEN WE DID.
WE UPDATED IT AND DID A NEW ONE FOR THE COMP PLAN.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE THIS IS WHAT WE THESE ARE THE ENGAGEMENTS WE HAD.
SO WE HAD NEARLY 9000 WEBSITE VISITS, 120 ISH SURVEY RESPONSES, 100, ALMOST 170 DOCUMENT DOWNLOADS, 100, ALMOST 200 WEBSITE COMMENTS, 164 ACTIVITY RESPONSES.
AND WE HAD MULTIPLE ACTIVITIES FOR FOLKS TO DO THROUGHOUT THE TWO WEBSITE ENGAGEMENTS.
THIS IS JUST A QUICK WORD CLOUD OF THE WORDS THAT WE KEPT HEARING THE FREQUENCY.
SO ALL OF THESE SHOULD BE FAMILIAR TO YOU.
WE FOCUSED INITIALLY ON ORGANIZATION, REDUNDANCY, OUTDATED POLICY, CONFLICTING LANGUAGE.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A POLICY IN ONE ELEMENT THAT DOESN'T JIVE WITH A POLICY IN ANOTHER ELEMENT.
THAT'S JUST THAT'S JUST WHAT HAPPENS HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY.
SO WE HAD TO WE HAD TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND THEN WE HAD TO FIX A LOT OF THE THE NUMBERING.
NUMBERING GOT AGAIN THROUGH THE YEARS OF INCREMENTAL CHANGES.
NUMBERING SYSTEM GOT A LITTLE AWRY AND WE HAD TO DO FIX THAT WITH EACH ELEMENT.
SO THE FUTURE LAND USE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT.
UM, THERE WAS ALREADY A MOBILITY STUDY PROPOSED IN THE PLAN.
JUST PUTTING A FINER POINT ON IT.
LOOKING AT A PARKWAY STUDY TO MAKE SURE WE CAPITALIZE ON THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.
THE THE REST OF THE EXTENSION AND THE NEW INTERCHANGES.
AND THEN ASSESSING THE CURRENT PARKING STANDARDS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAME UP DURING THE VISIONING PROCESS.
MAKING SURE THAT WE ALLOW FOR MISSING MIDDLE.
THOSE TOWNHOMES, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES THAT TYPE OF OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO NOT JUST A FOCUS ON SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS.
IT'S JUST CLEANING IT UP, MAKING IT MORE MODERN AND MAKING SURE THERE WEREN'T UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO ALLOWING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO OCCUR.
AND THEN HOMELESSNESS, THAT BEING A BIG ISSUE THAT CAME UP DURING.
DIRECTING THE CITY TO PREPARE A COASTAL RESILIENCY PLAN.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS MORE CONCISE AND EASY TO IMPLEMENT.
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ALLOWING FOR STRATEGIES TO INCREASE PUBLIC ACCESS, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE EVALUATING EVACUATION TIMES, IF WE'RE INCREASING DENSITY IN THE COASTAL MANAGEMENT AREA, AND THEN ENCOURAGING DEVELOPMENTS TO PROVIDE EVACUATION SHELTERS ON SITE.WITH RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.
WE AGAIN, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PLAN PROCESS, YOU YOU UPDATE THE DATA ANALYSIS, YOU EVALUATE YOUR PROJECTIONS, YOUR POPULATION PROJECTIONS.
AT THIS POINT, WE ADJUSTED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
NOW PART OF ADJUSTING THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
WE ALSO RECOMMENDED LOOKING AT ACCESS AS WELL.
SO PROVIDING FOR A PARK SERVICE RADII AROUND THE PARKS.
AGAIN, THE CITY WASN'T IMPLEMENTING THAT AS PART OF THEIR PLAN.
SO IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT, WHY CONTINUE TO REQUIRE THE CITY TO DO THAT? IT WASN'T ACHIEVABLE.
SO AGAIN, MAKING SURE THE PLAN CAN BE IMPLEMENTED AND ACHIEVABLE.
THESE WERE ALL GOALS OF THE VISIONING PROCESS.
AND THEN WITH RESPECT TO OPEN SPACE, WE PROVIDED A MINIMUM 20% OPEN SPACE FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT, UNDERSTANDING THAT A CITYWIDE OPEN SPACE IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT.
IS REALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS PUTS THE ONUS ON THE CITY TO ACQUIRE CONSERVATION LANDS OR PRESERVATION LANDS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING. WE SHOULD DO THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO.
YOU KEEP THAT LAND AS IT DEVELOPS.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A MORE MODERN WAY TO APPLY THAT THAT STANDARD.
THIS THIS ELEMENT WE LOOKED AT.
A POTABLE WATER CONSERVATION TECHNIQUES.
A POLLUTION, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH REDUCING THE GREENHOUSE GASES FROM TRANSPORTATION AND OTHER POLLUTANT SOURCES.
WITH RESPECT TO INFRASTRUCTURE, WE ESTABLISHED NEW, AGAIN, WATER CONSERVATION MEASURES.
THESE ARE KIND OF IN CONCERT WITH THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT.
PROHIBITED USES WITHIN THE AQUIFER RECHARGE AREAS.
SOME OF THIS STUFF IS IS MORE MODERN WAYS OF ADDRESSING DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE PLAN AND THEN ADOPTING OR DIRECTING THE CITY TO ADOPT AND IMPLEMENT THE BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WHICH AGAIN WAS A BIG ISSUE, PARTICULARLY WITH THE MANATEES AND AND OTHER RECENT ISSUES.
INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION.
THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF REDUNDANCY IN THE LANGUAGE.
THERE WAS THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE OTHER ELEMENTS.
HAD POLICIES THAT BASICALLY WERE REPEATED IN THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL COORDINATION ELEMENT.
WE WE DON'T ADVOCATE FOR THAT.
WE WANT IT JUST PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL LENGTH IN THE PLAN.
BUT ALSO, IF YOU MAKE ONE CHANGE TO ONE OF THOSE POLICIES, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT TO THE OTHER ONE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THOSE INCONSISTENCIES USUALLY POP UP.
AND THEN WE DELETED REFERENCES TO CO-LOCATION FOR PARKS AND SCHOOLS.
AND WITH A LOT OF SCHOOLS BEING LOCKED DOWN NOW THAT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE FOR PUBLIC ACCESS TO PARKS THAT ARE ON SCHOOL GROUNDS AND THEN REMOVED REFERENCES TO A JPA.
SO THERE WAS JPA WITH THE COUNTY.
WE'RE NOT ENTERTAINING THAT RIGHT NOW, SO WE GOT RID OF THAT.
REALLY THE KEY HERE FOR THIS IS, AGAIN, THERE WAS REPETITION WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS.
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SO YOU HAD ALL THE ROADS LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS, THE PARKS, THEY WERE IN THOSE ELEMENTS, BUT THERE WERE ALSO IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.SO WE ELIMINATED THE DUPLICATION AND MADE SURE THAT WE REFERENCED THE POLICY THAT INCLUDES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT.
SO YOU'LL GO BACK TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ELEMENT AND IT LAYS OUT ALL THE LEVEL OF SERVICE CHANGES AND FOR THE ENTIRE PLAN. AND THEN OF COURSE REFERENCING THE NEWLY ADOPTED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE.
AND THEN NO CHANGES WITH THE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT THERE.
THERE WERE NO REAL NECESSARY CHANGES TO THAT.
FUTURE. LAND USE, AS I MENTIONED, WILL BE BACK HERE TOO, TOMORROW NIGHT FOR TRANSMITTAL.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ADOPTION IN APRIL, SO APRIL 6TH.
OR THE ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT WILL BE AT COUNCIL MARCH 16TH FOR TRANSMITTAL.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF IF EVERYTHING ALIGNS CORRECTLY, IF WE GET OUR COMMENTS BACK FROM STATE AGENCIES ON TIME AND IF THERE AREN'T ANY MAJOR ISSUES. SO.
THAT. TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS.
WOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. OSTROVSKY? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION THIS EVENING, SIR.
I MUST SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALWAYS COMING IN PERSON AND JOINING US AT THESE MEETINGS.
IT PEEVES THE HECK OUT OF ME WHEN THE CITY SPENDS WHOEVER WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH WE'RE PAYING YOU AND WE GET WE GET ZOOMS. YOU'VE COME TO EVERY WORKSHOP IN PERSON.
YOU'VE COME TO THESE MEETINGS.
I FEEL LIKE WE KNOW EACH OTHER BY NOW, AT LEAST BY FACE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEVEL OF COMMITMENT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
AS I LOOK THROUGH THIS PLAN, WHICH I REALLY ENJOY, YOU KNOW, THE WHAT WAS ATTACHED TO OUR AGENDA PACKET WAS A HUGE, YOU KNOW, 200 PAGE DOCUMENT AND IT LOOKED QUITE LIKE AN ACTUAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, THAT THAT IS THE, THAT'S THE FULL PACKET.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I CAN GO GET THAT PRINTED AND I'LL BE AS COOL AS MR BATON.
I'LL BE ABLE TO PRINT THAT SUCKER OFF AND AND GET IT GOING.
MINUS THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT.
GOTCHA. SO THAT SAID, THE COVER PAGE HAS NOW CHANGED TO VISION 2050.
IT WAS 2040, THEN IT WAS 2045.
I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS, BUT WHAT IS THE ACTUAL YEAR? BECAUSE THERE'S DISCREPANCIES IN WHAT WAS TYPED THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT THAT I DON'T I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS 2050 WRITTEN ON THERE.
OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S THE SO THE CURRENT LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN IS 2045.
WE'RE WORKING ON OTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLANS THAT HAVE 2050 AS THE HORIZON YEAR.
THAT'S PROBABLY I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE WITHIN THE PRESENTATION ON THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE FOOTNOTE SUBSCRIPTS, REALLY NICE FORMATTING IT ALL SAYS 2045, 2045. AND I'M LIKE, THEY EITHER NEED TO CHANGE THIS ANY CHANGE IT.
IT'D BE EASIER MODIFICATION TO CHANGE THE TITLE PAGE.
SO 2045 IS IT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR.
FANTASTIC. I WON'T REQUEST MY PRINTED COPY UNTIL YOU'VE MADE THAT THAT CHANGE IT TOOK.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS SO MANY TIMES.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU'RE SO BURIED INTO IT THAT YOU JUST.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHEN THE RFP CAME OUT, WE WERE LOOKING AT 2040 NOT KNOWING IF AND WHEN WE WERE GOING TO GET TO THIS POINT, WHAT THE TRUE HORIZON YEAR WAS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TPOS PLAN.
I MEAN, YOU'RE REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TPO.
SO THAT'S WHEN WE ENDED UP MAKING THE CHANGE.
BUT THROWS ME INTO A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SO HUMBLED AND HONORED TO SERVE WITH WITH ALL THESE FOLKS UP HERE.
WE'RE GOING TO ONCE THIS PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR WORK IN THE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE CITY AND ADVOCATE FOR STAYING ON TOP OF IT SO IT DOESN'T GET OLD AND SOUR AND WHATEVER.
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NEED YOUR SERVICES OR SOMEONE ELSE'S AGAIN, WHEN WILL BE THE NEXT ACTION ITEM? SO ALL OF US UP HERE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO STAY ON OUR P'S AND Q'S.SO RANDALL, LET ME SAY THAT THE NEXT PART IN THIS PROCESS IS TO REVIEW THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, WHICH ARE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND DAY TO DAY CODE.
SO SO WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED NEW PHASE, ESSENTIALLY THE NEXT PHASE PROCESS, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FIRST, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T IMPLEMENT IT UNLESS IT EXISTS.
SO THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE THEN IS IMPLEMENTATION.
AND YOU'LL JOIN US FOR THAT JOURNEY.
ABSOLUTELY. OH, THAT'S WONDERFUL.
SO THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT IS PART AS PART OF THE VISIONING PROCESS, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WE SHOULD DO LIKE A SCORECARD OR A SOMETHING ON THE WEBSITE SO THAT FOLKS CAN SEE HOW THINGS ARE PROGRESSING IN TERMS OF IMPLEMENTATION.
SO THAT HASN'T BEEN FLESHED OUT YET, BUT WE'RE IN DISCUSSION WITH STAFF.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT EVERY DAY.
SO IS THERE ANY RELATIVELY SOON HORIZON WHERE WE'RE IN A STATE THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING ON THINGS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING AND WE ACTUALLY BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TIME PERIOD WHERE WE GET TO RELAX, RIGHT? IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ROUGHLY SEVEN YEARS, BUT OF COURSE YOU GOT TO PLAN FOR IT, WHATEVER.
IS THERE A HORIZON IN THE NEXT TWO, FOUR, SIX YEARS WHERE WE'LL HAVE EVERYTHING DONE AND WILL BE GOOD? OR IS THIS REALLY WORK THAT YOU'VE GOT TO JUST KEEP, KEEP, KEEP.
I MEAN. I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER ACHIEVE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THE PLAN BY 2045.
THAT'S A LOT. THERE'S A LOT THERE.
BUT IT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, IT'S ASPIRATIONAL.
REALLY, WHAT WE DO IS EVERY FIVE YEARS NOW, WE'VE WE'VE BAKED THAT INTO THE PLAN.
WE DECIDED AS A COMMUNITY TO DO FIVE YEARS FOR FOR THE REVIEW.
SO WE'LL BE BACK HERE IN FIVE YEARS LOOKING AT THE POLICIES, LOOKING AT, HEY, ARE WE ACHIEVING THE GOALS THAT WE WE SET OUT TO DO? AND IF NOT, THEN WE NEED TO CHANGE COURSE A LITTLE BIT.
SO, YES, WE WILL WE WILL BE EVALUATING IT IN FIVE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO STAY ON TOP OF THIS? BECAUSE KNOWING AS MUCH AS I DO NOW, I'M DUMBFOUNDED AT HOW WE DIDN'T PARTICIPATE AT ALL WITH OUR LEGAL OBLIGATIONS, LET ALONE ANYTHING ELSE FOR SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU KNOW, NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
THESE PEOPLE DON'T EXIST ANYMORE, WHATEVER.
BUT I AM STILL, AS A CITIZEN, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, WHEN DID THAT WORK DISCONTINUE, AND HOW WAS IT KIND OF AUTHORIZED OR WHAT HAVE YOU, TO JUST MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN? I'M LOOKING IN A FORWARD DIRECTION.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT EVEN INDICATIVE THAT WE COULD EVER END UP BACK THAT WAY.
SO I'LL KEEP I'LL KEEP, YOU KNOW, DOWNRANGE VISION.
THAT I WOULD JUST HATE TO EVER SEE IT STOP AGAIN.
COMPLETELY AGREE. THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST A JUST A COMMENT AND MAYBE THIS IS I READ THROUGH THE PLAN AND I GUESS THE PAGE THAT KIND OF STUCK OUT TO ME THE MOST OR.
WENT THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION.
AFTER YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIFFERENT THINGS.
BUT IT TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENT LIKE I GUESS OUR ZONING THAT WE HAVE NOW.
BUT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE PLAN.
FUTURE PLAN. BUT BASICALLY IT'S PAGE ONE 61IN OUR PACKAGE AND IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE SUCH SUCH A.
IT JUST LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING PLANNED FOR COMMERCIAL.
IS THAT. THAT BASICALLY TRUE? WE HAVE I SEE SMALL AMOUNT ALONG MALABAR ROAD AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH MORE IN OUR ON THAT THAT PICTURE. I THINK THE BIGGEST CHANGE AND THIS WAS WITH THE THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT THAT WE WE DISCUSSED LAST MONTH IS THE
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SHIFT TO MORE MIXED USE A LOT LIKE WHAT YOU SAW TONIGHT WITH THE PARK VILLAGE.WE'RE WE'RE SHIFTING THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE THE MODEL THAT THIS COMMUNITY WAS DEVELOPED WAS EXTREMELY SUBURBAN.
WE NEED TO FOCUS DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES WHERE WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE FOCUS MORE ON MIXED USE.
AND THAT WAS KIND OF PART OF WHAT WHAT JESSE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
SO YOU MAY NOT SEE RED ON THE MAP, BUT WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS MIXED USE.
AND THERE IS A LOT MORE TO COME WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THIS LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT NOW, THIS NEW COMMUNITY THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, AND ANOTHER ONE WE TALKED ABOUT OUR LAST MEETING THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED INTO MORE OF A MULTIFAMILY. BUT EVEN WITH THAT, THERE'S THERE'S VERY JUST SMALL POCKETS OF OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL.
SO WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING ON IN TERMS OF TRYING TO DRAW MORE COMMERCIAL LAND IN ONE, AS CHRIS HAD MENTIONED, IS THE CHANGES IN FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES AND OUR ORIENTATION TOWARDS MIXED USE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT THAT WHICH HAS VARIOUS STUDIES ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LOOKING AT THE MALABAR ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, AS A SEGMENT TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL ENTITLEMENT CHANGES, BOTH APPLICANT AND OR CITY INITIATED DEPENDING ON THE FRAMEWORK OF WHAT THE STUDIES ENTAIL.
SOMETIMES IT MAY REQUEST CHANGES.
ANY ANY CHANGES SPECIFICALLY CHANGES, BUT ALSO COMMENTS.
WILL THAT THEN COME BEFORE US? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
IT'S NOT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT SUBSTANTIAL.
WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE THAT MUCH INTERVENTION AT THE STATE LEVEL.
UNDERSTOOD. THERE MAY JUST BE SOME GENERAL COMMENTS.
I SUSPECT THEY'LL PROBABLY MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE WATER SUPPLY PLAN.
IT'S THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PACKAGE.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR COMMENTS.
QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE ONE QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THE LAST POINT THERE ON THE WATER SUPPLY.
HOW DO WE SKIRT BY THE STATE OR ANY OTHER AGENCY IN CREATING THIS MASSIVE LAND THAT HAS NO REASONABLE FORECAST OF GETTING POTABLE WATER DELIVERED TO IT, SIMULTANEOUSLY DEVELOPING POCKETS OF LAND WHICH ARE GUARANTEED TO GET IT? HOW DOES THE CODE ALLOW FOR THAT? WHAT KIND OF MEASURES? HOW STRETCHED ARE WE? I KNOW THERE'S OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT DO IT.
GDC WAS EVERYWHERE, BUT HOW MUCH OF A STRAIN ON THE PROCESS IS THAT? BECAUSE THE REASON I ASK IS WHEN I BROACHED THAT SUBJECT WITH ANYBODY, CITY STAFF WISE, IT SEEMS LIKE, OH, THAT'S A BIG BOY.
THEY OUGHT TO BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE DELIVERING POTABLE WATER INTO THE HOUSEHOLDS OF RESIDENTS.
AGREED. AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL LEVELS THAT WE WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH.
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GET THAT WATER.THERE'S BEEN A FOCUS NOW ON ALTERNATIVE WATER SOURCES.
JUST THERE'S BUT YOU HAVE TO NOW COORDINATE WITH YOUR REGIONAL PARTNERS WITH YOU KNOW, YOU MAY HAVE TO LOOK TO THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE OR MELBOURNE AND HAVE SOME SORT OF INTERCONNECTION AGREEMENT WHERE YOU'RE SUPPLYING WATER TO THEM AND THEY SUPPLY WATER TO YOU IN THE IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY OR SO.
THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNIQUES TO HELP OFFSET, YOU KNOW, THE THE THE STRAIN ON JUST PULLING WATER FROM THE AQUIFER.
THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE WATER SUPPLY PLAN IS BECAUSE THE CITY.
SO UNLESS YOU'RE ON TOP OF THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A COMMENT SAYING, HEY, YOU DIDN'T DO THAT YET.
SO. AND YES, WE DO NEED TO PLAN EFFECTIVELY FOR FUTURE WATER SUPPLY.
RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT SERVING THE WHOLE CITY.
SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT IS AS PART OF KIND OF THE BIG PICTURE LOOK OF THE WATER SUPPLY PLAN.
SO I IMAGINE WHEN WE GO TO UPDATE THE WATER SUPPLY PLAN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, NOT JUST THE PROJECTIONS ASSUMED IN YOUR CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMIT, BUT ALSO WHAT THE PLAN PROJECTS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF NEW FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES. JUST A.
YES, MADAM. WELL, FIRST, THANK YOU FOR I MEAN THIS.
I THINK YOU PUT TOGETHER A VERY GOOD PLAN.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK AND THE WORK THAT YOU HAVE PUT INTO THIS.
I MEAN, I SAT IN ON SOME OF YOUR WORKSHOPS AND.
IT JUST SPARKS A LITTLE INTEREST AND KNOWING.
TENURE. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU EVER RUN ACROSS A CITY? THE REASON WHY I KIND OF BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I LOOK AT OUR OUR SITUATION WITH THE COMPOUND.
I LOOK AT OUR SITUATION EXCUSE ME, WITH NORTHEAST PALM BAY AND THE BCRA.
YOU TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS? NOT EVERYBODY'S DOING THIS.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW.
NOT EVERYBODY SAYS, HOLD ON, WAIT, TIME OUT.
OUR PLAN IS 20 YEARS OUTDATED.
WE NEED TO COMPLETELY OVERHAUL THIS THING AND LOOK AT ALL THE DATA ANALYSIS AND OH, BY THE WAY, WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE PUBLIC AND DO A ALMOST 18 MONTH LONG PROCESS TO INCLUDE EVERYBODY IN DEVELOPING THIS PLAN.
SO THAT WAS THE BIGGEST STEP THAT PALM BAY COULD HAVE TAKEN.
WHAT YOU HAD WAS A DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN PLAN BY THE ORIGINAL FOLKS THAT DEVELOPED THE COMMUNITY AND IT STAYED THAT WAY. IT WAS A TREND.
SO. THE PUBLIC DIDN'T REALLY ENGAGE.
SO. THAT IS HUGE FOR THIS CITY.
OKAY. THERE IS AN IMAGE ISSUE.
YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO GET BEYOND AND GET PAST AND.
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WE'RE DOING IT. YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A VISION NOW.YOU HAVE A PLAN TO IMPLEMENT YOUR VISION.
ABSOLUTELY. THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE.
UM, I'M A PLANNER. THIS IS WHAT WE.
SO. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
LIKE I SAID, IT WAS KIND OF OPEN ENDED QUESTION.
IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE CURIOSITY FACTORS BECAUSE I, I MEAN, YOU WOULD HATE LIKE 20 YEARS WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO THIS 20, 45 PERIOD AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME SITUATION, LET'S JUST SAY I MEAN, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE, SOMETHING LIKE THE PROJECT WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S ABANDONED OR ALL OF A SUDDEN WE COULDN'T FINISH IT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T KNOW OR THERE WASN'T ANY IDENTIFYING MARKERS THAT SAID, HEY, YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP AND REEVALUATE THIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I JUST HAVE A I NEED A CLARIFICATION.
STARTING ON PAGE 299 AND IN THE THREE HUNDREDS THERE ARE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED PARAGRAPHS.
DOES THE YELLOW INDICATE? SO THOSE ARE PROBABLY QUESTIONS TO STAFF.
IF. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TRANSPORTATION ELEMENT.
WELL ON PAGE STARTS AT 299 AND THERE'S A STAFF QUESTION.
IS THIS RELEVANT? AND THEN ON PAGE 312.
THAT GOING TO BE PART OF IT OR STRICKEN OR CORRECTED? THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.
THOSE WERE THOSE WERE STAFF GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CONSULTANT.
AND SO THERE'S PROBABLY 2 OR 3 OF THOSE WHERE THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU.
WELCOME. FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS? BENTON. ABOUT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP ON THIS ONE, AND ONE OF THEM WAS REGARDING THE AQUIFER AND THE RECHARGE AREA.
WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR MAP, IT SHOWED THE ENTIRE CITY AS THE RECHARGE AREA.
AND MY QUESTION IS, HOW CAN YOU HAVE LANDMASSES, ROADS, PAVEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE? BUT IT'S CALLED RECHARGE WHEN THERE'S NO WATER.
WATER DOESN'T PENETRATE THE ROADS OR THE ROOFS.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT RESONATED WAS THIS WE ARE CONSIDERED A WETLAND POOR DRAINAGE AREA.
WAS. AND SO THE SALT CONCENTRATION IN THE AQUIFER.
SO MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME.
RIGHT. THE OTHER QUESTION WAS FUTURE LAND USE VERSUS ZONING AND PRIORITY.
I GOT SOME CLARIFICATION ON IT.
CURRENT ZONING IS NOT GOING TO BE CHANGED IF I'M READING THAT CORRECTLY.
ZONING IS NOT BEING CHANGED YET.
WHEN THEY COME BEFORE THE BOARD, THEY SAY, WELL, YOU'RE ZONED FOR THIS, YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT.
SO WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME SPOT.
IF YOU'RE HOLDING. ZONING IS NOT CHANGING, BUT YOUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP SAYS SOMETHING ELSE.
WHAT HAVE YOU ACCOMPLISHED? SO THAT LEADS THE QUIET TO THE QUESTION IS WHICH ONE HAS THE PRIORITY, FUTURE LAND USE OR CURRENT ZONING? WHICH ONE HAS PRIORITY? AND THE REASON WHY THAT'S PERTINENT IS BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCES ARE CURRENTLY WRITTEN AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOVERNED BY, IS YOUR CODE OF ORDINANCE.
SO WHICH ONE HAS PRIORITY? YOUR ZONING OR YOUR FUTURE LAND USE? SO THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMENTS.
SO I'LL TRY TO START FROM THE FIRST QUESTION.
SO THE AQUIFER THAT'S JUST BASED ON MAPPING.
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IS WITHIN THE WELLFIELD PROTECTION AREAS AND MAKING SURE THAT THOSE THERE ARE SPECIFIC USES NOT WITHIN YOUR WHERE YOU DRAW THE WATER FROM.SO THERE'S THERE'S RADII THAT GO AROUND YOUR WELLS, YOUR POTABLE WATER WELLS AND YOU DON'T WANT SPECIFIC USES WITHIN THOSE THAT ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE GROUNDWATER.
SO THAT THAT IS THAT I BELIEVE IS WHAT THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO.
BUT YES, SO THE MAPPING IS NOT EXACTLY THE THAT LAYER ISN'T THE BEST LAYER IN TERMS OF ACCURATE DATA. SO YOU'D HAVE TO KIND OF DO A WHOLE NEW MODEL TO GET THE DIFFERENT RECHARGE AREAS AND IN THE DISTRICTS NOT REALLY MAINTAINING THAT LEVEL OF INFORMATION ANYMORE, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS PART OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, YES, THERE ARE CHANGES TO FUTURE LAND USE.
ZONING WOULD PREVAIL FOR RIGHT NOW.
SO THE ZONING ISN'T BEING CHANGED.
WE'RE NOT. THAT'S THE NEXT PHASE.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO ADDRESS NEW ZONING DISTRICTS WITH FOR THE NEW LAND USE CATEGORIES.
I ADDRESS EVERYTHING IS THERE.
LAW IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. MEETING ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.