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[1. Discussion of the area known as the Compound.]
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS WORKSHOP TO ORDER.WE'RE GOING TO START THIS MEETING WITH A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
AND I'M GOING TO HAVE MASTER CHIEF BATTON LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.
SORA TOLLEY WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HURRAH! THAT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WE ALL SAID THAT IN UNISON AND IT WAS JUST ECHOING AND.
PATRIOTISM IS ALIVE HERE IN PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION OF AN AREA WE CALL THE COMPOUND.
SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU.
AND AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH STAFF.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. APPRECIATE IT.
APPRECIATE EVERYONE WHO'S COME OUT TONIGHT.
SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH IS A PRESENTATION.
IT'S GOING TO BE TWO OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS TAKING THE LEAD ON PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMPOUND.
WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME HISTORY, SOME STATISTICS JUST TO SORT OF FRAME THE CONVERSATION.
WE'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO DEVELOP THE COMPOUND.
SO WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT WITH JOHN YOUNG BROWN, WHO IS ONE OF OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS.
SHE'S GOING TO KICK US OFF AND SHE'LL BE JOINED IN A LITTLE BIT BY OUR POLICE CHIEF, MARIO AJELLO.
SO, JOHN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING ME TONIGHT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE CAN CALL UP THOSE RELEVANT DEPARTMENT HEADS OR MRS SHERMAN SO GOING FORWARD, THE HISTORY OF THE COMPOUND, SO PALM BAY WAS DEVELOPED HISTORICALLY BY GENERAL DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
THERE ARE OTHER FORMER GDC COMMUNITIES LIKE PORT SAINT LUCIE.
THE COMPOUND IS AN AREA WHICH IS COMPRISED OF APPROXIMATELY 2942 ACRES, WHICH INCLUDES RIGHTS OF WAY WITHIN PORT MALABAR UNITS 51, 52 AND 53.
THE COMPOUND CONSISTS OF THOUSANDS OF QUARTER ACRE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS PRE-PLOTTED BY GDC AND SOLD TO INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE WORLD IN THE 70 SECONDS, 80 SECONDS AND 90 SECONDS THROUGH WHAT THEY CALL MAIL ORDER LAND SALES.
SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THE CITY BECAME INCORPORATED.
THEY CONTAIN APPROXIMATELY 4978 PARCELS AND IT BREAKS IT OUT BY UNIT THERE.
IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. THERE ARE 2755 UNIQUE OWNERS OF LAND OR PROPERTY IN THE COMPOUND.
SARA LAND, LLC IS THE LARGEST SINGLE LAND OWNER.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY OWNS 129 PARCELS, MOSTLY RIGHTS OF WAY.
AND BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD OWNS SEVERAL LARGE TRACTS FOR FUTURE SCHOOL SITES.
ONE ITEM OF NOTE THAT'S NOT ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT THE AVERAGE MARKET VALUE FOR A QUARTER ACRE SINGLE FAMILY LOT IN THE COMPOUND IS 2000 $2,000. SO CITY OWNERSHIP ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE PARCELS IN RED.
THOSE ARE PARCELS OWNED BY THE CITY.
AND SO OF THAT 4978 PARCELS, THE CITY OWNS 129 PARCELS OR 2.6% OF THE PARCELS WITHIN THE COMPOUND.
IN TERMS OF ACREAGE, THE CITY OWNS 278.4 ACRES OR 9.5% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE.
SEVERAL PARCELS APPEAR TO BE FUTURE RIGHTS OF WAY STORMWATER AND FUTURE PARKS.
IT'S KIND OF SMALL, BUT HERE IS A MAP OF THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE COMPOUND.
YOU CAN SEE THAT NINE 99.4% OF THE PARCELS WITHIN THE COMPOUND ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY.
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AND I WANT TO JUST DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACREAGE AND PARCELS, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITHIN THE SLIDES.ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN OWNERSHIP CONTROL WHEN IT COMES TO PARCELS AND ACREAGE.
SO IN THE BOX YOU'LL SEE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE IS 72.3%.
SO 72.3% OF ALL OF THE ACREAGE IN THE COMPOUND IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THE SECOND HIGHEST NUMBER THAT'S ACTUALLY A ZONING DISTRICT IS THE INSTITUTIONAL USE, AND THAT'S 7%.
BUT IF YOU GO DOWN EXCUSE ME, TO THE VERY BOTTOM, IT SAYS ALL OTHER ZONING CATEGORIES.
THE COMPOUND, AGAIN CONTAINS 4978 PARCELS.
THE CITY OWNS 2.6% OF THOSE PARCELS.
DAVID MCCALLUM OWNS 16%, 796 ACRES OR SORRY, PARCELS.
AND AGAIN MCCALLUM IS AND THESE ARE PARCELS, NOT ACREAGE.
SO YOU'LL SEE SARAH LAND, YOU'LL SEE DAVID MCCALLUM, TRUSTEE KOGAN WINGHAM PARTNERSHIPS, THOSE ARE ALL ADDITIONAL ENTITIES OWNED BY MR. MCCALLUM. THE REMAINING 81.4% OF THOSE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE COMPOUND IS ALL INDIVIDUALLY AND PRIVATELY OWNED.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE 2755 UNIQUE LANDOWNERS IN THE COMPOUND.
IT ALSO IDENTIFIES THE ROADWAYS.
IT IDENTIFIES WATER AND SEWER.
AND THE THE KEY THING TO NOTE, LET'S SEE IF I CAN MAKE THIS WORK.
THERE WE GO. THERE IS THERE ARE THREE KEY POINTS OF ACCESS TO THE COMPOUND.
THERE'S THERE'S A BOMBARDIER, WHICH I UNFORTUNATELY DON'T THINK I CAN GET UP THAT HIGH.
I'LL JUST STAY ON THE MIC, MA'AM.
AND THEN WE HAVE SAINT ANDRE BOULEVARD.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE KEY POINTS OF ACCESS TO THE COMPOUND.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT AS WE START TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE DEVELOP THE COMPOUND, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TARGET THOSE SPECIFIC CORRIDORS TO REALLY START TO TO BRING DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA AND THEN KIND OF BUILD OUT FROM THERE.
SO THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, THE THREE THE THREE ACCESS POINTS TO THE COMPOUND.
AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE ARE ONLY THREE KEY ACCESS ROADS.
LACK OF WATER AND SEWER, NO ELECTRICITY, VARIED OWNERSHIP AND SEVERAL.
TYPES OF UNDESIRABLE ACTIVITY.
BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE DOING THEIR PART AS WELL.
SO POLICE, THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT PERFORMS SECURITY CHECKS.
THE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PERFORMED AN AVERAGE OF 381 ANNUALLY.
PUBLIC WORKS GOES OUT AND PERFORMS CLEARING OF OVERGROWTH.
AND THAT'S REALLY AT SPECIFIC KEY INTERSECTIONS OF THE COMPOUND COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
IN 2020, STAFF REACHED OUT TO 24 PROPERTY OWNERS OWNING 32 LOTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF BOMBARDIER AND THEY RECEIVED FOUR RESPONSES. ALL OF THOSE RESPONSES WERE INTERESTED IN SELLING WHETHER OR NOT WE DECIDE WE WANT TO GO INTO LAND OWNERSHIP AND ACQUISITION.
WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT LATER IN THIS IN THIS DISCUSSION.
AND THE THE FINAL THING TO NOTE IS THE CITY.
SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS MET WITH FPL TO TALK ABOUT BRINGING POWER OUT TO THE AREA.
THAT IS A KEY COMPONENT IN ORDER TO BRING DEVELOPMENT TO THE AREA.
PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED IN ORDER TO BRING POWER OUT TO THE COMPOUND.
AN AREA AS LARGE AS AS THE COMPOUND IS AND THEIR NEED FOR A SUBSTATION.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
THIS SHOWS A RESPONSE FROM POLICE AND FIRE GOING FROM 2017 TO 2023.
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THE ONE THAT WE JUST HAD YESTERDAY AND 241 EMS AND FIRE RESPONSES.AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF AJELLO.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL STAFF.
SO FROM 2023, FROM YEAR TO DATE, WHAT WE SEE ON THE SCREEN HERE IN TERMS OF THE TYPES OF CALLS FOR SERVICE WE RECEIVED AND OR SELF INITIATED BY OUR OFFICERS.
SO ANYWHERE FROM VEHICLE BURGLARIES, TRAFFIC STOPS, SELF INITIATED OFF ROAD VEHICLE TYPE COMPLAINTS AND OR SELF-INITIATED ACTIVITY BY THE OFFICERS, SUSPICIOUS VEHICLES, SHOOTINGS IN TERMS OF INDIVIDUALS GOING OUT TO THE COMPOUND WHERE IT'S SECLUDED ON CERTAIN ROADWAYS OUT THERE AND USING IT AS TARGET PRACTICE TO FIRE THE WEAPONS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO ANIMAL COMPLAINTS AND ABANDONED VEHICLES AND FIRES.
SO THAT'S 20, 20, 23 TO DATE ON 2022.
HERE WE GO A LITTLE BIT MORE IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF RESPONSES WE HAVE FOR THOSE CATEGORIES.
2020 IS WHEN WE SAW AN INCREASE IN ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA OF THE COMPOUND.
BUT WE SAW AN INCREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE YEAR PREVIOUS TO 2019.
SO IN 2020, WE HAD AN INCREASE, TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR THE COMPOUND OF 964 OR 800 PLUS CALLS FOR SERVICE LEADING INTO 2021, WHICH WAS 964 CALLS FOR SERVICE.
AND ON THE LAST SLIDE, WE HAD A PROBLEM.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM AT THAT TIME WAS WE HAD AN INCREASE IN OFF ROAD VEHICLE CRASHES AND FATALITIES FOR THOSE DOING THE ATVS AND SIDE BY SIDES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND DIRT BIKES.
SO WITH A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH US, PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, CITY OF PALM BAY, SAINT JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, FWC, MELBOURNE, TILLMAN WATERWAYS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET TRESPASS SIGNS ERECTED AS LONG AS AS WELL AS WE WERE WORKING WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO FIND A STATE STATUTE THAT FIT THE BILL IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN USE TO ENFORCE WITH REGARDS TO THE SHOOTINGS THAT WAS HAPPENING OUT THERE IN TERMS OF TARGET PRACTICE, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO GET ONE, WE HAD OUR SIGN SHOP FROM THE CITY TRAFFIC DESIGN SHOP, MAKE SOME SIGNS FOR US.
WE POSTED THEM OUT THERE ON SEVERAL LOCATIONS OUT CLOSE OVER TO THE CANAL WHERE IT'S THE RIGHT ACROSS THE CANAL WHERE THE THREE FORKS MARSH CONSERVATION AREA PUT SIGNS UP THERE. THE CITY EVEN WENT OUT.
DON'T KNOW HOW MANY STREETS WE HAVE OUT THERE, BUT IT'S QUITE A FEW AND PAINTED CROSSWALK STRIPES STRIPS ON THE ROADWAYS TO ALSO ENHANCE OUR ABILITY TO CONDUCT TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE DON'T REALLY HAVE SIGNS OUT THERE OR TO DO TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT ON STOP SIGNS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ON TOP OF THAT, AS DEPUTY CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, OUR OFF DUTY SECURITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, DETAILS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING OUT THERE MONTHLY FOR THE WEEKENDS AND ALSO DURING THE DAY, DURING THE WEEKDAYS.
SO. OUR NUMBERS HAVE DECREASED SINCE 2020 FROM 900 PLUS TO 5 TO 600.
BUT NONETHELESS, THERE'S STILL ACTIVITY THAT'S TAKING PLACE OUT THERE.
TO ME, MY BIGGEST CONCERN OR I THINK THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTION TO THAT THAT'S CONTRIBUTING TO IT IS IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE AND THERE'S A LOT OF VEGETATION THAT'S OVERGROWN, A LOT OF CONCEALMENT.
PEOPLE FEEL SAFE THAT ARE GOING OUT THERE LOOKING TO DO CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
NOT EVERYBODY THAT GOES OUT THERE IS ENGAGING IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE CAN INTERPRET IT, WHETHER YOU ARE TRESPASSING SO THAT IT'S CRIMINAL.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT VIOLENT CRIME TYPE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
WE ARE HAVING TARGET PRACTICE HAPPENING OUT THERE.
SO THERE IS CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS AREA.
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WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE MAKING SOMEWHAT OF AN IMPACT.BUT AGAIN, IT'S A OVER 2700 ACRES, WHICH IS ABOUT 12.2MI².
IT'S PART OF OUR ZONES OF ENFORCEMENT AND OUR ZONES OF PATROLLING.
AND WE'RE OUT THERE AS MUCH AS WE CAN BE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION.
DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS COMING UP.
THANK YOU. YES, I'LL FINISH OUT THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE TO ADDRESS AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THE COMPOUND. SO WE TALK ABOUT WANTING TO BRING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT TO THE COMPOUND, WHICH WILL DETER SOME OF THE UNDESIRABLE ACTIVITY.
AND THERE ARE ALREADY COMPANIES THAT ARE DOING THIS.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT A KEY PARCEL THAT THE CITY OWNS IN THE COMPOUND AS WELL ECOTOURISM, OUTDOOR RECREATION, ENTERTAINMENT, AMENITIES TO SUPPORT THE RECREATION THAT ALREADY OCCURS OUT IN THE COMPOUND. SO THAT'S BEEN THROWN OUT THERE AS WELL.
UM, OTHER TYPES OF ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE IN THE COMPOUND THAT ARE ON THE MORE PRODUCTIVE SIDE ARE THINGS LIKE WE'VE GOT FOLKS THAT UTILIZE THE RANGE WHICH IS NOT FAR FROM THERE. HURRICANE PAINTBALL PARK GENERALLY WITHIN THAT AREA, DRONE RACES BY FLORIDA TECH ENGINE TESTING BY LARSON MOTORSPORTS AND IN THE CITY'S MORE RECENT HISTORY, THE TOUGH MUDDER.
SO OTHER NEXT STEPS, OTHER THINGS THAT WE COULD DO TO START TO REALLY TRY TO BRING GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OUT TO THE COMPOUND ARE THINGS LIKE DOING AN ADDENDUM TO OUR RECENTLY PASSED, RECENTLY ADOPTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT LOOKS STRICTLY AT THE COMPOUND OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE THE COMPOUND AND WHAT TYPES OF ACTIVITIES AND COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL GROWTH COULD OCCUR OUT THERE.
RE DESIGNATING THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ADMINISTRATIVELY REZONING SECTIONS ALONG KEY CORRIDORS.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THOSE THREE ACCESS POINTS BOMBARDIER OSMOSIS AND SAINT ANDRE.
THE ACE CORRIDOR STUDY FOR SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.
WE HAVE A MAP THAT WILL PROBABLY BRING UP LATER.
I BELIEVE THE MAYOR HAS IT ON ON CUE.
AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE, BRINGING AN FPL SUBSTATION, AS FPL SHARED WITH THE CITY PART OF THEIR CHALLENGE WITH MEETING OUR NEEDS AS THEY WOULD NEED TO INSTALL AN FPL SUBSTATION.
THIS REQUIRES LARGE TRACTS OF LAND.
IT REQUIRES CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
WE COULD LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE UTILIZING A CITY PARCEL TO HELP THEM MEET THAT NEED.
FUTURE CITY UTILITIES PLANT EXPANSION WOULD ALSO BE NEEDED.
WORKING WITH OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS TO HELP WITH STUDIES LAND ASSEMBLAGE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY RECENTLY RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FROM THE EUCLID GROUP.
AND WITH THAT I WOULD ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THEM.
IF I CAN'T ANSWER THEM, WE CAN CALL UP THE APPROPRIATE DIRECTORS.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO TOUCH ON, YOU SPOKE ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES AND A FEW YEARS AGO WE MENTIONED YOU AND I HAD SPOKEN AS WELL AS SUZANNE SPOKE ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.
CURRENTLY THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE FOR PALM BAY AND THE SAINT SEBASTIAN RIVER PRESERVE STATE PARK.
BUT I SEE THIS AS A BETTER LOCATION FOR AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
CAN YOU TALK ME THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE IT WHERE THE COMPOUND AREA IS, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE, AS OPPOSED TO THE SAINT SEBASTIAN RIVER PRESERVE STATE PARK, WHICH CAN'T EVEN BE UTILIZED FOR IT? SO I REMEMBER WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS THE AREA DESIGNATED AS THE OPPORTUNITY ZONE FOR PALM BAY.
THE AND WE LOOKED AT HOW WE CAN DESIGNATE A DIFFERENT AREA OF THE CITY AS AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE THROUGH THE GOVERNOR.
SO WE COULD WORK WITH OUR LOBBYISTS.
WE COULD AS A COUNCIL BODY MAKE A DECISION TO SEND A LETTER.
SO WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT.
STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
CAN YOU SPEAK ON WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS? SO I'M A LITTLE RUSTY IN OPPORTUNITY ZONES SINCE I HAVEN'T HAD TO USE THE ONE WE HAVE HERE.
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UM, FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS.THINGS CAN PUMP MONEY INTO THIS TRUST FUND, IF YOU WILL.
THE, THE, THE FINANCIERS, IF YOU WILL, RECEIVE TAX CREDITS OVER TIME.
BUT THOSE EMPOWERMENT ZONES, THEY WORKED OUT VERY WELL FOR THE COUNTY.
IF YOU REMEMBER UP IN THE NORTH, COMMISSIONER ROBIN FISHER DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB WITH THAT.
SO THAT I LIKE THOSE IDEAS, SIR, THAT I THINK WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THAT.
SO THANK YOU. WAS THAT IT? YEAH. I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT.
EVEN IF THE COMPOUND IS IN THE AREA, SAINT SEBASTIAN RIVER PRESERVE STATE PARK CANNOT BE.
IT CAN'T BE UTILIZED. SO WE NEED TO GET IT CHANGED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
BUT I SEE THE COMPOUND BEING AS THE BEST FIT FOR IT.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO THAT.
AND IF IT TAKES LETTERS, I THINK WE HAVE CONSENSUS HERE TO START MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT CREATING OUR OWN EMPOWERMENT ZONES IS, IS THE WAY WE SHOULD WE HAVE DIRECT ACCESS FOR THAT, RIGHT, SIR? BUT YES, SIR, I LOVE THAT IDEA.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR? MAYOR, MY QUESTION WOULD BE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT OR WE CAN BRING MISS BERNARD.
IT'S REGARDING THE UPDATE OF OUR COMP PLAN.
WAS THERE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA? I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG PART, EVEN FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE QUITE A BIT OF FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND SO ON.
SO I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE AS TO WHAT WERE, IF ANY, RECOMMENDATIONS IN TERMS OF ALL.
YES. SO THE VISIONING STUDY, THE VISIONING PROCESS, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC THAT CAME OUT AND INCLUDING STAFF ALL IDENTIFIED THE COMPOUND AS AN AREA FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL GROWTH.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE HEARD IN THE VISIONING STUDY.
BUT OF COURSE, IF IF I'M INCORRECT, THEN ALEX CAN COME UP.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE AS WELL.
CERTAINLY LOOKING AT THE CURRENT, IF WE LOOKED AT THE PIE SHAPE CHART, 72.70 2.3% IS STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL.
SO IT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE AS WELL, BECAUSE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS AS SOON AS WE HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT THERE, BUT YOU'LL SEE NATURALLY IT'LL BRING MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL.
AND THAT'S SPARKED SOME SOME MOVEMENT OUT THERE.
SO I THINK AS FAR AS THE LAND USE AND ZONING WILL PLAY A BIG PART OF OF SOME MOVEMENT OUT THERE.
I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS PARCEL.
SO THAT TRIANGULAR PARCEL UNDERNEATH THE PURPLE, IT'S A SHADED GRAY.
SO WE CONTROL IT. IT'S GOT GENERAL USE HOLDING ZONING, WHICH ALLOWS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE'VE TALKED INTERNALLY ABOUT REZONING THAT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT TYPES OF INDUSTRY THE CITY IS SEEING INTEREST OUT HERE. I KNOW THAT NANCY BUNCH, OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, CAN TALK ABOUT THE STUFF THAT SHE'S WORKED ON WHEN IT COMES TO COLLABORATING WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO BRING TO BRING END USERS AND EMPLOYERS OUT TO THIS AREA.
AND THIS IS ONE PARCEL THAT HAS BEEN OF INTEREST TO A FEW CONFIDENTIAL PROJECTS.
OKAY. WELL, THANK. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
AND RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, THIS IS THIS FITS RIGHT IN WITH WHAT THE DISCUSSION IS.
RIGHT. IS GETTING PART OF THAT INVESTING INTO OUR COMMUNITY IN THIS REGARD.
THAT MEANS THIS COUNCIL MAKING THAT TYPE OF EFFORT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THIS WE CAN CONTROL AND THAT CAN CREATE AND SPUR FUTURE GROWTH IN REGARDS TO COMMERCIAL.
AND IT IS ONE OF THE ENTRANCE WAYS.
BUT I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I MAY HAVE SOME AS WE CONTINUE TO DISCUSS.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE. ARE YOU DONE, DEPUTY MAYOR, SIR.
AND THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING THIS WORKSHOP.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN PLAGUING OUR CITY FOR FOR DECADES.
AND IN THAT YOUR PARTICIPATION IS CRITICAL FOR EVERYONE UP ON THIS DAIS.
SO ANY IDEA, ANY INPUT THAT YOU HAVE IS WELCOMED?
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I DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO LEAD US OFF WITH SPEAKING, AND THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO BE MISTER TOM GOMM.HE HAS A PRESENTATION TO SHARE WITH US.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MAY I APPROACH? YES, SIR. COME ON.
I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS, THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS ESTABLISH ONE FACT.
ANY RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY ON THE MIC OR BRING.
CAN YOU BRING IT UP SOME MORE? BRING UP THE LECTERN.
ANY RECREATIONAL ACTIVITY THAT GOES ON IN THE COMPOUND STARTS WITH AN INTENT, AN INTENT TO BREAK THE LAW, WHETHER IT BE TRESPASSING. DISREGARDING TRAFFIC SIGNS.
SPEEDING. A PROPERTY DAMAGE, DAMAGE TO OUR CANALS THAT KEEP OUR HOUSES SAFE DURING THE HURRICANES.
BUT SOME OTHER THINGS HAPPENED DURING THE DAY THAT I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT.
BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE COMPOUND, THE MAIN THING WE KNOW IS WE LOSE PEOPLE OUT THERE, NOT JUST PEOPLE PREDOMINANTLY BLACK YOUNG MEN BY A VAST MAJORITY.
HAVING A LONG RANGE PLAN TO DEVELOP THE COMPOUND HAS BEEN THE GOAL FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
SO IT'S A GREAT LONG RANGE PLAN.
BUT WE NEED A SOLUTION TO STOP FROM STACKING UP TWO BODIES A YEAR TO THE COMPOUND.
YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE SIX YEARS.
I THINK YOU'D AGREE THAT YOU'VE SEEN TOO MANY OF THESE.
THEY TALKED ABOUT GETTING TRESPASSING SIGNS AND SIGNS FOR THE ORDINANCE FOR SHOOTING.
THESE ARE THE CANALS WE RELY ON TO KEEP OUR HOMES SAFE DURING A HURRICANE.
PEOPLE OWN THAT PROPERTY THAT IS DAMAGED.
THERE'S A SMALL CHILD ON THE FRONT OF THAT FOUR WHEELER WITH NO HELMET ON.
THINGS GO ON OUT THERE THAT ARE DANGEROUS.
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, I WAS TALKING WITH OUR PAST CITY MANAGER, LEE FELDMAN.
HE SAID THAT'S PROBABLY AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.
THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AROUND THE COMPOUND OBVIOUSLY DON'T WANT THESE THINGS GOING ON OUT THERE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT WAS IN THE EMAIL I SENT THE CONSOLE.
WAS DRONES TO PATROL THE COMPOUND.
THEY CONTRACT PEOPLE, INFRARED, ALL KINDS OF SENSORS.
THAT. IT'S A LETTER I SENT YOU.
BUT YESTERDAY, GOVERNOR DESANTIS SIGNED SB 102.
THAT HAS TO DO WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME AT LEAST.
IS THE GOVERNOR, UNDER THE FLORIDA JOB GROWTH GRANT FUND, CAN APPROVE STATE AND LOCAL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THANK YOU. FOUND THAT SAME 33 ACRES.
OUR NEXT PRESENTATION WILL BE MR. JORDAN. YOU BRING THAT DOWN, MR. JORDAN? ON JORDAN 2141 MADDEN AVENUE.
WE LIVE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS FROM THE COMPOUND.
THESE PICTURES I TOOK SUNDAY AFTERNOON AT 130.
YOU CAN SEE A PICKUP TRUCK DOING SPIN OUTS ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY.
RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF MADDEN AVENUE AND OSMOSIS.
THERE GOES A DIRT BIKE OR BUY ON HIS WAY TO THE COMPOUND.
TWO MORE AND THEN THREE MORE AFTER THAT.
EVERY FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
I MEAN, WE HAVE SO MUCH NOISE.
IT'S COMING RIGHT AT OUR HOUSE.
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I HAVE MADE PROBABLY 100 PHONE CALLS REPORTING ACTIVITY THERE.AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN COME OUT.
BUT IT'S VERY NOISY ON WEEKENDS.
IT'S AWFULLY IT'S IT'S REALLY YOU DON'T WANT TO SIT OUTSIDE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH NOISE AND THAT DUST FLYING AROUND, IT'S REALLY A NUISANCE. NOW, THIS IS CITY PROPERTY THAT THE CITY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IF ANYBODY GOT HURT ON.
SO IT'S REALLY A PROBLEM THAT HAS GONE ON IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED AT THAT PROPERTY, AND WE SURE LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE TO CALM IT DOWN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
WHAT IS IT? UNIT 53. WHERE YOU LIVE IN WHAT UNIT? WE'RE IN 49.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THE DIVIDING LINE IS THE CANAL.
IT'S ABOUT A BLOCK TO THE EAST OR TO THE WEST OF MADDEN AVENUE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. JORDAN.
I WANT TO ASK ANY INDIVIDUAL THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.
YOU RAISE YOUR HAND UP QUICKLY.
YES, SIR. BUTCH, YOU'RE NUMBER TWO.
HELLO, MA'AM. MEDINA. MA'AM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CLOSER. OKAY. HELLO, MA'AM.
MEDINA. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING.
I RUN THE ANGELS BRIDGING GAPS AUTISM SUPPORT GROUP HERE IN BREVARD, AND I'M HAVING AN EVENT COMING UP ON APRIL 29TH, HELPING HANDS FAMILY FESTIVAL TO HELP DEAL WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN BREVARD.
WE KNOW THAT IT ISN'T JUST PALM BAY.
AND WE HAVE ISSUES GOING ON IN OUR SCHOOLS.
WE HAVE ISSUES GOING ON IN OUR HOMES.
WE HAVE ISSUES GOING ON WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO MANAGE OUR YOUTH.
WE NEED SOME PLACE FOR THEM TO MEET, SOME PLACE FOR THEM TO FEEL A PART OF THEIR COMMUNITY.
I RUN A SMALL PROGRAM HERE AT MALABAR BAPTIST CHURCH RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE SITTING AT HOME NOT DOING ANYTHING AND NOT FEELING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM. IF THEY COULD BE PART OF SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND ACTUALLY RUN THAT COMMUNITY CENTER, GIVE THEM JOBS TO RUN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, AND THEN STAFF IT WITH MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS AND SOCIAL WORKERS SO WE CAN WORK WITH FAMILIES TO HELP KEEP THESE CHILDREN AT HOME.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THE REASON THAT WE HAVE SO MANY ISSUES AT THE COMPOUND IS BECAUSE YOUNG PEOPLE GO THERE TO GATHER.
THEY GO THERE TO DO THEIR BONFIRES.
THEY GO THERE FOR ACTIVITIES BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SOMEPLACE ELSE TO GO.
OUR YOUNG ADULTS WITH DISABILITIES.
I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH BETSY FARMER AND SOME OF THE OTHER WAYS FOR LIFE ORGANIZATIONS.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
CROSSWINDS HAS 12 VACANCIES AND FELL 12 SPACES.
THEY HAVE NO VACANCIES AT ALL.
WE HAVE NO PLACE FOR OUR YOUNG ADULTS AND OUR TEENS TO GO TO WHEN THEY'RE CAUSING ALL THESE ISSUES.
AND WE SEE THIS BUBBLING INTO OUR SCHOOLS AND INTO A LOT OF OUR HOMES.
AND AGAIN, DEALING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CIRCLE THAT KEEPS GOING AROUND.
SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND I JUST PUT.
YOU'RE UP. I'D LIKE STAFF TO DULY NOTE THIS YOUNG LADY'S COMMENTS BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIP.
CARRY ON, SIR, WHICH RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE HERE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
SUZANNE. I TRIED THREE TIMES AND IT KEPT COMING BACK.
ANYHOW, YOU HAD A MAP PICTURE UP THERE JUST A FEW SECONDS AGO.
CAN YOU ZOOM TO MADDEN AVENUE NORTH UP THERE? RIGHT. THE THING IS, THEY'VE PUT BRAND NEW, SPARKLING, SHINY STOP SIGNS AND STREET SIGNS WITH NAMES ON THEM.
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AND THERE'S THE STREET.THERE'S NO STREET THERE. THERE'S WOODS.
OKAY. AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT THE PICTURES IN THE LOCATIONS THAT I'LL GET THEM TO.
SUSAN SUZANNE. I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW.
SO IF YOU GO NORTH ON MADDEN, IT'S A DIRT GRASS ROAD COMBINED AND BOTH STREETS EAST AND WEST SIDE, THERE'S NEW STOP SIGNS, NEW STREET SIGNS.
AND YOU CAN LOOK DOWN THE STREET AND SEE NOTHING BUT BUSHES.
SO YOU FOLLOW THAT ON AROUND AND YOU END UP ON MADDEN.
THEY'RE BUILDING A NEW HOUSE ON MADDEN AVENUE.
I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW FIRE WOULD RESPOND TO IT.
THEY'VE STARTED WORKING ON IT.
THERE IS A PORTABLE CONCRETE FACTORY OUT THERE.
JUST PARKED. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY OR WHAT.
I'VE GOT A GOOD PICTURE OF IT THAT I CAN SHARE WITH YOU WHEN IT COMES TO.
OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO HAVE TO TELL YOU TO DO WITH THE COMPOUND.
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OUT.
BUT YOU DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND YOU SEE A STOP SIGN THAT'S TURNED WHITE.
IT'S NOT RED ANYMORE. THERE'S NO STOP SIGN TO IT.
BUT YET WE GOT NEW ONES IN THE COMPOUND.
JUST KIND OF CONFUSING TO THIS OLD BOY.
Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANKS. THANK YOU.
MY NAME IS VICTOR CARRASCO, AND I GREW UP OUT HERE.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU GUYS START BUILDING AND TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING? AND WE GOT NOWHERE TO RIDE. NO MORE.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE MIAMI.
THEY HAVE THESE RIDES IN THE STREETS.
IS THAT WHAT WE WANT? YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR SAFE HAVEN WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO RIDE.
AND NOW THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH JUST GOING TO TAKE TO THE STREETS.
THEY HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT CHASING THEM.
BUT LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE RIDES.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PLACE FOR US TO GO AND RIDE.
AND I'VE BEEN GOING OUT THERE SINCE I WAS A KID IN DIAPERS WITH MY FAMILY HAVING A GOOD TIME.
AND PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT'S NOT GOING ON, BUT IT REALLY IS.
MARTIN LUTHER KING RIDE JUST HAPPENED, WHAT, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
LOOK HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE ON THE NEWS FOR IT RIDING ATVS, DIRT BIKES, STREET BIKES, SIDE BY SIDES.
ALL VEHICLES WERE IN THAT RIDE.
AND IS THAT WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO HAPPEN AROUND HERE? THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN AREA FOR US TO ESCAPE AFTER A HARD DAY'S WORK.
SOME OF US OWN PROPERTY OUT THERE.
AND I'VE EVEN HAD INCIDENTS WHERE WE'RE ON A PROPERTY WE'RE ALLOWED TO BE ON.
POLICE SHOW UP AND TELL US TO LEAVE EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE PERMISSION TO BE THERE.
IT HAPPENED NOT EVEN A MONTH AGO.
I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT MORE TO THIS THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.
BUT I FEEL LIKE IF YOU GETRILLIONID OF THAT AREA.
THEN BETTER. SO THAT'S JUST MY INPUT ON THAT SITUATION.
JUST SPEAKING UP FOR THE PEOPLE WE HANG OUT WITH AND WE RIDE WITH ALL THE TIME.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S MULTIPLE OF US ON FACEBOOK GROUPS.
PEOPLE SAY WE'RE RUINING THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE SAME TRAILS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
WHEN IT WAS JUST ONLY WOODS BEFORE THE GROUNDS WERE PUT DOWN.
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BUT THAT'S JUST MY INPUT.THANKS FOR HAVING ME. THANK YOU.
WHO ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK? THIS. GOT LOTS.
EVERYONE'S GOING TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AND, MR. BATTEN, YOU'RE YOUR THIRD.
I LIVE AT 120 HOLLERAN STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
I'M HERE TO REPRESENT SPACEPORT ROCKETRY ASSOCIATION.
WE ARE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF ROCKETRY CLUB AND TRIPOLI ROCKETRY CLUB.
WE HAVE A PERMIT OUT THERE IN THE COMPOUND TO FLY OUR ROCKETS, AND WE SUPPORT A MULTITUDE OF UNIVERSITY STUDENTS FLYING THEIR ROCKETS FOR COMPETITION WITH NASA AND OUT AT THE SPACEPORT IN NEW MEXICO.
WE'RE CERTIFYING THOSE FLIGHTS FOR THEM.
WE SUPPORT HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE TEAM AMERICA ROCKETRY CHALLENGE, WHICH IS THEY CAN WIN SCHOLARSHIPS.
700 TEAMS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES COMPETE AND THEY HAVE TO SELECT DOWN TO 50.
WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE APPROXIMATELY 73.
BUT IN THIS AREA WHERE WE HAVE OUR PERMIT, WE'VE ONLY BEEN THERE SINCE ABOUT 1998 BECAUSE WE MOVED IT AWAY FROM THE.
UM, WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BE OUT THERE SOMEPLACE.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WITH OUR ROCKETS, WE NEED A LARGE AMOUNT OF UNOCCUPIED AREA.
AND IF WE HAVE THE NEED YOU TO REALLY SPEAK ON THE MIC, IF WE REALLY HAVE THE PARKWAY, WE CAN'T FLY OUR ROCKETS BECAUSE THERE WILL BE MORE THAN 15 CARS PER HOUR DRIVING PAST US AND WE CANNOT FIND ANY FARMLAND OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE AREA THAT CAN BECAUSE THE FARMERS OR RANCHERS SAY, OH, ROCKETS, NO, YOU CAN'T COME OUT HERE.
MY GRASS. YOU SCARE THE COWS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE SUPPORT FROM ALL THE WAY FROM TITUSVILLE UP IN THE NORTHERN FAMU, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MIAMI UNIVERSITIES AND HIGH SCHOOLS ALL ON THE WEST COAST.
WE'RE THE ONLY GROUP THAT THEY CAN COME TO.
WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BE OUT THERE AND.
HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HAD A DIALOG WITH NASA? WE HAVE.
WE'RE SUPPORTING THE COLLEGE STUDENTS AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WITH IN A COMPETITION WITH NASA.
THEY'LL BE UP IN ALABAMA IN TWO WEEKS COMPETING FOR SCHOLARSHIPS AND BRAGGING RIGHTS.
THIS IS AN EVENT THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN IN TO NASA.
SIX DOCUMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, PROPOSALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT LOOKS GREAT ON A RESUME EVEN IF THEY DON'T WIN THE COMPETITION.
AND WE STILL WANT TO SUPPORT THESE GROUPS.
LET US BE ABLE TO FLY ROCKETS.
MR. ROBINSON, WOULD YOU ASSIST HER IN? THANK YOU. YEAH.
I HAVE 33 YEARS LIVING MOSTLY IN PALM BAY.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPOUND LAND OR AREA.
I EVEN WENT GO CAR WITH ONE OF MY KIDS.
THERE ARE THINGS GOING IN THERE AND IT'S A SHAME.
IT'S SAD THAT THE PEOPLE TODAY USE IT TO COMMIT CRIME.
WE JUST HAD ONE DUMP GARBAGE OR JUNK THINGS RATHER THAN HAVE
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FUN LIKE WE DID.TIME TO DEVELOP THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WE SHOULD BUILD.
THIS CITY DON'T HAVE DOWNTOWN.
WE NEED TO GO MELBOURNE, DOWNTOWN OR A LOT OF STUFF.
BIERI. I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE OUR OWN DOWNTOWN.
ANOTHER THING THAT I SUGGEST WILL BE IN A MOST AMUSEMENT PARK.
OKAY. RATHER THAN GO SO FAR THIS GNAGE OR WHATEVER WE CAN JUST MINUTES TO ONE OF THESE ATTRACTIONS.
ALSO, WE SHOULD HAVE A SIMILAR TO A WET AND WILD.
REMEMBER THOSE THAT COULD BE VERY NICE IN THAT AREA OR AM SO AM. LIKE A BIG FLEA MARKET FOR THE COMMUNITY WILL BE NICE AND.
WE NEED TO BUILD FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN FOR MANY YEARS A COMMUNITY THING.
A TEENAGER CHILD'S STUFF, YOU KNOW.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT THAT WAY OR TRY TO KEEP IT SAFE AND BETTER.
SOMEHOW TO KEEP IT GOING BECAUSE IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, NICE AREA AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I'VE GOT SIX ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.
NUMBER ONE, WE JUST HAD THE MEETING ON.
INFRASTRUCTURE AND IN THE COMPOUND AREA.
SO REMEMBER, UNIT 49 IS THE GATEWAY TO THAT AREA.
SO LET'S DON'T LET THAT DEPRECIATE BECAUSE IT'S ONE MORE TIME WHERE IF YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST IMPRESSION LOOKING, OKAY, THIS IS PART OF THE CITY, THEN THAT KIND OF SLOWS THINGS DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO LET'S DON'T LET THAT ONE FAIL.
UNDER THE BUILDING INITIATIVES.
WE WON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS IF WE GIVE TAX ABATEMENT FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT THERE IS LIKE I WAS JUST BROUGHT UP.
GOVERNOR DESANTIS HAD JUST PROPOSED FOR THE HOMELESS INCENTIVE.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE START BUILDING IN THAT AREA.
WHICH LEADS TO SOME OF MY OTHER TOPICS.
I'M GOING ON 36 YEARS LIVING HERE.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW ME.
THEY I AM AT THE COMPOUND AREA ALSO UNIT.
BUT WHEN I MOVED HERE, THERE WAS NO POWER OUT THERE EITHER.
I HAD TO PAY TO GET FLORIDA AND POWER TO BRING POWER OUT TO MY HOUSE.
THAT MIGHT BE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO DO.
IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT THE CITY COVERS IT OR FLORIDA POWER IS FOOTING THE BILL.
PART OF THAT, THAT COULD BE PART OF YOUR INCENTIVE.
THE CITY WILL HELP YOU GET POWER HERE TO BUILD YOUR HOUSE JUST FOR POSSIBILITY.
IF WE START GETTING PEOPLE TO START BUILDING OUT THERE CLOSE TO AT LEAST COMING IN AND OUT.
REMEMBER, PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO DO BAD THINGS IN THE LIGHT OF DAY.
THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO DO THEM WHERE NOBODY CAN SEE IT.
MORE SUPERVISION MEANS LESS HELL RAISING.
AND THAT LOWERS THE BAD BEHAVIOR.
IT. REMEMBER THAT THIS AREA, THOUGH, IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE.
IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE SAINT JOHNS FLOODPLAIN.
SO WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S A DETRIMENT FOR TRYING TO GET MASSIVE DEVELOPMENTS JUST BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION.
SO JUST REMEMBER THAT WHERE THE LOCATION IS.
YOU'RE NOT BREAKING A LAW IF YOU OWN THE PROPERTY OUT THERE.
I KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT BUILD STUFF AFTER THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ATV CAMPS.
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SOME OF THEM HAVE THEIR OWN PRIVATE RANGES.RIGHT. BUT I CAN ALSO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE THAT COME OUT THERE THAT DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN LAND.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I KNOW YOU HAVE A HARD DECISION ON HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE.
THANK YOU. I WANT TO GO ON THIS END.
I'LL HAVE. LET ME LET ME START THE GENTLEMAN WAY BACK AND THEN YOU, MA'AM.
WELL, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR HOLDING THIS MEETING.
I HAVE BEEN LONG AWAITING TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT MY CONCERN ABOUT THE COMPOUND ON.
QUITE A BIT OF PROPERTY IN THAT AREA FOR A WHILE.
THAT'S A VERY THAT'S A GREAT CONCERN AND A LOT OF DAMAGE EVEN TO MY PROPERTY HAS BEEN DONE.
AND ONE OF THE MAIN THING THAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS TODAY IS THE FACT THAT.
I AM PAYING FOR STORMWATER IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT RECEIVING.
HARDLY ANY SERVICES AND IT'S EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
I'VE BEEN PAYING FOR MANY YEARS OVER $2,000 A YEAR FOR A PROPERTY THAT'S NOT RECEIVING ANY SERVICES.
ACTUALLY, AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW, IT'S UNBUILDABLE.
SO I JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
SO IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO AT LEAST LESSEN THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THE STORMWATER, I PERSONALLY I'M PAYING OVER $2,000 EVERY YEAR, WHICH IS THAT FOR ONE PROPERTY, ONE PROPERTY, HOW MANY PROPERTIES DO YOU HAVE? IT'S ONE, IT'S A IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE PARCEL, YOU KNOW, PARCEL.
HOW MANY ACRES? IT'S 11 ACRES.
THANK YOU. YEAH. WHICH IS UNUSABLE.
OF COURSE. WE ARE WORKING HARD AND IT IS MY HARD EARNING INVESTMENT.
WE'RE PAYING TAXES AND I DO UNDERSTAND THE STORMWATER IS IMPORTANT AND I DO SUPPORT IT.
BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT BUILDABLE, IT'S AN INVESTMENT IN RIGHT NOW IT'S SITTING THERE, PEOPLE TRYING TO KEEP IT OPEN TO DO ALL KIND OF ACTIVITIES OVER MY PROPERTY AND THERE I AM.
I'VE ALREADY PAID MORE IN STORMWATER THAN THE PROPERTY IS WORTH AND RIGHT NOW IT'S ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, THE VALUE IS EXTREMELY, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING AROUND THE COMPOUND, WE CANNOT BUILD.
PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN TO FOR RECREATION.
AND THERE I AM. I'M PAYING ALL THIS MONEY WHEN I'M NOT GETTING NO SERVICES.
SO PLEASE, PLEASE, IF YOU WOULD RECONSIDER, I CAN UNDERSTAND.
I'M MORE THAN HAPPY YOU'RE GIVING ME SERVICES.
ALTHOUGH MANY TIMES, BY THE WAY, THE SERVICE IS FINALLY.
ONCE IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THEY FINALLY COME AND DO MY BACK.
YOU KNOW THE AREA, THE GENERAL AREA BEHIND MY BACKYARD FOR THE.
YES. HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THE.
THE PROPERTY? UM, A LONG TIME AGO.
OKAY. AND SINCE THAT TIME, YOU KNEW IT WAS ON.
AND SO MY MY QUESTION IS AS AN INVESTMENT.
RIGHT. YOU MENTIONED INVESTMENT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO HAVE GO THROUGH A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT TO DEVELOP THAT AREA? WOULD YOU BE ONE OF THOSE THAT THAT WOULD SAY YES TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I WOULD LOVE TO, BUT I CANNOT AFFORD IT RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU KNOW, SOME ORDER.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, YOU WERE NUMBER TWO, MA'AM.
COME ON UP. IS THAT KAY MIRAGE?
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YES, IT IS. I'M SORRY, MA'AM.GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR STAFF.
THE FIRST ONE IS HOW DO WE PROTECT IT NOW? AND I THINK HE HAD SOME GOOD POINTS IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT SURVEILLANCE AND THESE USING TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM NOW.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULDN'T JUST LOOK OVER.
JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING WE CONSIDER BECAUSE THERE IS A NEED AT THIS POINT.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE COMPOUND, WHAT, OVER 12 ACRES OF PROPERTY THERE AND WHAT CAN WE DO WITH IT? NOW I SEE THE CITY HAS, WHAT, 30 PLUS ACRES THERE AND 99% OF THE SURROUNDING LOTS ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. I WANT US TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT REZONING THAT AREA, NOT ONLY JUST CHANGING IT TO TO ACCOMMODATE THE THE BIG COMPANIES.
WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT MULTIFAMILY HOMES AS WELL.
ZONING AS WELL, NOT ONLY FOR CONDOS, TOWNHOMES, BUT FOR DUPLEXES, QUADS.
THERE ARE SMART PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY RIGHT BESIDE THEM.
WE ARE NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THAT.
SO TO ME, CHANGING ONE OF THE ZONINGS TO MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
SECONDLY, I WOULD OF COURSE LOOK AT THE GIVING PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES SINCE THEY ARE MULTIPLE OWNERS THERE IF THEY CHOOSE TO REZONE.
SO IF YOU HAVE MULTI USE ZONING, IT GIVES YOU AGAIN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANYTHING THERE.
WHY NOT LOOK TO SHOP THERE A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY TO THOSE COMPANIES THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING IT ALREADY, BRINGING THE PEOPLE HERE, THAT'S BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THERE'S A PORTION THAT DOES THE OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, THE ECOTOURISM.
THERE ARE PEOPLE DO THAT SHOP THAT TO THEM, LET THEM DO THOSE ACTIVITIES.
THEN IMAGINE HAVING AN AMPHITHEATER NEARBY.
NOW WE'RE DOING FESTIVAL CONCERTS AND SO THAT MAKES US THE ENTERTAINMENT HUB FOR THE COUNTY.
NOT ONLY BIG BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, IF LIKE THE LADY WITH HER 11 ACRES, IF THAT WAS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE REZONED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. SO I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT KIND OF CONCEPT.
REZONING HAS TO BE A PRIORITY AND OF COURSE, SHOPPING IT.
BEING MAYOR. AND EVERYBODY HERE CLOSE TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
I'M LISTENING. I LIVE AT ON GANCEDO STREET, NOT FAR FROM THE COMPOUND.
SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, 22 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE.
I WAS LISTENING TO ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES, I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST LADY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE HERITAGE PARKWAY INTO 95 AND EVERYTHING. DO ANYBODY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE? IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE.
IT'S GOING TO BE A WHILE. IT'S DOWN RANGE RIGHT NOW, MAN.
THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I SPOKE TO MOE ALLEN, THE REAL ESTATE, ONE OF HIS PEOPLE, AND I SPOKE TO DANIELLE THAT'S UPSTAIRS IN THE CITY DEPARTMENT.
AND I'M LOOKING TO WELL, NOT MYSELF.
MY SON AND I ARE LOOKING TO BUILD A BUSINESS OUT THERE.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT, ABOUT BUILDING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT TO EVERYBODY, BUT IF YOU TAKE ME TO THE SITE LATER, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WE WOULD LIKE AT LEAST 50 TO 100 ACRES FOR IT.
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WE ALREADY HAVE.WE KNOW WHO'S GOING TO DO EVERYTHING FOR US.
SO THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING HOW LONG THE PARKWAYS WERE OPEN.
SO IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY BECAUSE I KNOW THE ROAD OVER THERE BY ON BOMBARDIER IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO HANDLE ANY KIND OF BUSY TRAFFIC ESPECIALLY COMING FROM 95.
IT WILL HELP EVERYBODY OUT IN THE LONG RUN AS FAR AS JOBS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SEE IF WE CAN GET STARTED.
OR LOOK FOR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT WE WANT TO STAY IN PALM BAY BECAUSE THAT'S OUR HOME.
SO I THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND HAVE A BLESSED DAY.
CARRY ON. CAN WE, MA'AM? COME ON, MA'AM. WOULD YOU.
WOULD YOU GIVE YOUR INFORMATION TO.
TO STAFF, PLEASE, SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU? THANK YOU. I'M SORRY.
WHO WAS IT? YOU. SIR. YES, SIR.
I WISH I KNEW EVERYONE'S NAME.
I DON'T LIKE POINTING AT PEOPLE, BUT.
YES, SIR. YEAH. MY NAME IS JEFF HARKIN, 883 VANCE CIRCLE, NORTHEAST.
AND BACK IN 2010, I WAS IN HERE AND WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEMS ABOUT THE COMPOUND, PEOPLE NOT KNOWING WHAT TO DO, YOU KNOW, RECREATIONAL.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT.
SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE COMPOUND AND OPEN UP A BUSINESS LIKE THIS.
ONE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT HE HAD, AS YOU KNOW, MOTORCYCLES AND TRUCKS AND ALL THIS.
WHY NOT HAVE LOCAL PEOPLE, LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS GO OUT TO THE COMPOUND AND OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, MOTORCYCLES AND TRUCKS AND RECREATIONAL FOR THE PEOPLE? AND THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT.
PLEASE EVERYONE THAT'S COMING TO SPEAK.
STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
OKAY? YES, SIR. I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WAITING A WHILE, SO YOU'LL GO AFTER.
HELLO, MY NAME IS RYAN FOSTER 935 QUAKER STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY DIDN'T REALLY PREPARE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO TALK TONIGHT, BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE. WELL, THANK YOU.
UM, I WANT TO SAY, TALKING ABOUT ALL DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING THE AREA UP MORE OUT THERE, ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS DRIVE AROUND THIS TOWN TO SEE THAT THE OVER DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS TAXING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
Y'ALL WANT TO PUT MORE HOUSES, MORE PEOPLE, MORE EVERYTHING OUT THERE.
THERE'S TWO ROADS TO GET IN AND OUT.
THERE'S NO WAY IT CAN HANDLE IT.
FIRST OFF, ON THAT NOTE, I WANT TO SAY I'VE BEEN HERE LIVING IN THIS AREA FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
ONE OF THE REASONS I MOVED HERE WITH MY REALTOR TOLD ME ABOUT THE COMPOUND AND THAT SOLD ME.
I MOVED HERE BECAUSE THAT PLACE TO ME, IT'S A PARADISE.
IT'S PRISTINE. IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL PLACE.
I'M A MEMBER OF A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT MEET OUT THERE.
WE DO BIRTHDAYS, WE DO HOLIDAYS, WE MEET UP, WE POLICE THE AREA.
WE TELL PEOPLE WE SEE THEM DUMPING, WE GET ON THEM.
I GUESS MY POINT IS IT'S NOT ALL BAD WHAT HAPPENS OUT THERE.
THE ONLY THING THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING IS WHAT THEY SEE IN THE NEWS, LIKE WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
I THINK ALL THIS HAS SPARKED OFF FROM THE TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED IN DECEMBER.
THIS STUFF HAPPENS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
IT'S NOT THE LOCATION, IT'S THE PEOPLE.
SO DUMPING IT ALL IN THE COMPOUND, I JUST DON'T I DON'T GET IT.
AND I THINK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROPERTY OWNERS OUT THERE, THEY HAVE A YOU KNOW, THEY CAN ARGUE IT AND THEY HAVE A STAND, BUT PEOPLE DON'T EVEN COME OUT THERE AND DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PLACE THAT ALL THEY HEAR IS SOMETHING ON THE NEWS AND THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, COME AND SPEAK THEIR MIND AND WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN OUT THERE AND PUT THE PLACE DOWN. THAT'S NOT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS OUT THERE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS OR WHATEVER, AND, WELL, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT TOO.
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I MEAN THAT THINGS HAS TO BE SOME POSTING FROM PROPERTY OWNERS IN ORDER TO KEEP YOU OFF THE PROPERTY.THERE'S NOTHING OUT THERE THAT IT'S NOT.
IF I HAD MY WAY, I'D SAY, LEAVE IT ALONE.
AND THERE'S MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
WE'VE GOT ENOUGH GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
I'VE PROBABLY LIVED IN THE PALM BAY SINCE 1986, SO I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE OLDEST RESIDENTS HERE.
I DID NOT COME HERE FOR TRAFFIC.
SO I THINK DEVELOPMENT IS FINE.
BUT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT TWO LANING AND GETTING THE ROADS MORE CLEAR THAN WE ARE AND MAYBE PLANNING FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO MAYBE PARTNERING WITH SOME OF THEIR INDUSTRIES THAT ARE IN THIS AREA LIKE SOMEONE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
FPNL WELL, WHY NOT BUILD A SOLAR FARM OUT THERE? MAKE MONEY AND LET'S MAKE MONEY.
LET'S DEVELOP FUTURE TECHNOLOGY.
PARTNER WITH THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE IN THIS AREA.
THERE'S NO REASON FOR US TO NOT MAKE MONEY ON THIS LAND.
I MEAN, MAYBE I'M STUPID, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE MONEY.
WE SHOULD RENT THAT LAND, AND WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK FOR THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE.
I MEAN, WE HAVE HOMELESS EVERYWHERE IN PALM BAY.
WE NEED TO PUT 1% OF THAT LAND, AT LEAST FOR LOW INCOME AND HOMELESS PEOPLE.
I MEAN, NO ONE LIKES THEM IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. I DEAL WITH THEM ALL THE TIME.
I DON'T LIKE THEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD EITHER.
I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD TREAT YOUR OTHER MAN LIKE YOU TREAT OTHER PEOPLE.
SO I THINK THEY'RE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
FEED THEM. YOU KNOW, MAYBE PARTNER WITH DAILY BREAD.
WHY NOT HAVE A DAILY BREAD IN PALM BAY? I WENT THERE TWO WEEKS AGO, SO AT LEAST 30, 40 PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE STREETS.
IF THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU SAD, MR. MAYOR. SEEING THAT'S POSSIBLE.
MY EYES TEAR UP THE IDEA OF ONE HOMELESS PERSON IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY.
SLEEPING ON THE STREET SHOULD MAKE EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM MAD.
WHEN WE DEVELOP MALLS AND PLACES LIKE THAT, LESS THAN 10% OF THEM OCCUPIED.
WHY NOT? LOOK FOR HOMELESS OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE ARE PLACES LIKE THE DIGNITY BUS.
TEACHING PEOPLE SKILLS, YOU KNOW, HOSPITALITY SKILLS, OTHER SKILLS.
THERE'S A TON OF TECHNOLOGY THAT IS OUT THERE, AND WE HAVE THE PLACES TO DO IT.
EASTERN FLORIDA, FLORIDA TECH, NASSAU, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
DISNEY. NOW WE HAVE IT, SO WHY NOT LOOK INTO IT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I WANT YOU TWO TO BE PATIENT WITH ME.
THE FIRST THING I WANT YOU TO EXPRESS IS I WANT EVERYONE'S INPUT.
IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SPEAK, I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU.
BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS BY SECTION.
I HAD GONE TO MY LEFT, AND SO I WANT TO I WANT TO WORK ON MY LEFT AND THEN GO RIGHT ACROSS.
YES, SIR. YOU COME ON UP AND THEN I'M GOING TO WORK IN THAT SECTION.
AND THEN AFTER I'M COMPLETED, I'M GOING TO JUST GO ACROSS.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRIS JONES.
I CURRENTLY LIVE 2524 HAVERHILL ROAD NORTHEAST.
THEY MOVED, BOUGHT A HOUSE, KROME AVENUE, OVER IN THE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AREA.
WHEN I WAS THREE YEARS OLD, MY NEIGHBOR, FOUR DOORS DOWN, WAS A MAN NAMED WILLIAM CRUZ.
SOME PEOPLE MIGHT REMEMBER HIM.
ONE DAY HE DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO SHOOT HIS WIFE.
SHOTS WENT TO A SHOPPING CENTER DOWN THE STREET, SHOT ANOTHER WOMAN, SOME POLICE OFFICERS.
THAT WAS IN THE NICE PART OF PALM BAY.
THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING GRANTED ON A LARGER SCALE CURRENTLY THESE DAYS.
BUT THERE'S BEEN PROBLEMS ALL OVER.
WHEN THAT HAPPENED, THEY DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO MOVE TO SOUTHWEST PALM BAY BOUGHT A HOUSE ON WHITE CLOUD, OFF GARVEY, GARVEY AND MALABAR ROAD WAS A DIRT ROAD. THERE WAS NOTHING WHERE MADELINE LANDING IS NOW BUT COW FARM ALL THE WAY TO THE SHOPPING CENTER AT MALABAR AND MINTON.
SO I'VE SEEN THIS CITY EXPLODE OVER MY LIFETIME.
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IT WAS A LARGE INFLUX OF PROPERTY CRIME THERE.PEOPLE GETTING HOUSES BROKEN INTO MIDDLE OF THE DAY.
IT WASN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
IT WASN'T IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
IT WAS IN NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY.
THE ONLY TWO WAYS THAT THAT REALLY PEOPLE SOLVED IT.
MORE RECENTLY, 2017, 18 ISH, I BELIEVE, AS TRAIL PARK OVER IN NORTHEAST, I FISHED THERE A LOT.
THERE'S SOME HIKING TRAILS THROUGH THE WOODS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH.
PEOPLE GOING IN THERE COMMITTING INAPPROPRIATE ACTS WITH EACH OTHER IN THE WOODS.
NOW, I LIKE THE IDEAS OF BUILDING SOMETHING TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY OUT AT THE COMPOUND.
BUT BE IT COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL OR RESIDENTIAL CRIME FOLLOWS PEOPLE.
THERE HAS BEEN MORE CRIME THE MORE PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN HERE OVER THE YEARS.
IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN A CITY INCREASES IN SIZE.
THEY PUT SPEED BUMPS OUT THERE THAT HAVE BEEN CHISELED AND RIPPED OUT OF THE ROAD.
THEY PUT POSTS IN THE ROAD TRYING TO STOP PEOPLE FROM GOING OUT THAT HAD JUST BEEN CUT OFF.
BY JUST. KEEPING THE POLICE OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, KEEP THE BAD PEOPLE OUT.
AND SIR, BACK THERE, YOU'RE NEXT.
YES, SIR. YOU. UH, JAMES KENNEDY.
FIVE YEARS AGO, I MOVED TO 746 DERBY AVENUE.
CURRENTLY JUST SOLD THE HOUSE BECAUSE MY FATHER IN LAW HAD TO GO TO ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
UM. I'VE WATCHED MY KIDS AND MY FRIENDS KIDS GROW UP IN THE COMPOUND, LEARN HOW TO ACTUALLY BECOME YOUNG MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN LEARN HOW TO RIDE FOUR WHEELERS, FISH, SHOOT BOWS AND ARROWS WITH THEIR DADS.
LIKE, WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THAT.
I MEAN, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH WHAT MY FRIEND CHRIS SAID.
THE MORE YOU BUILD UP, THE MORE CRIME IS GOING TO FOLLOW.
I KNOW THIS. I SPENT A LONG TIME BEHIND.
I SPENT A FEW YEARS LOCKED UP.
ALL RIGHT. SO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO IT REGARDLESS.
I MEAN, WE GOT TO TRY TO SLOW IT DOWN.
ATVS ARE COMPLETELY BANNED IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
AND SINCE THAT HAPPENED, CRIME WENT UP A LOT.
I MOVED FROM WEST PALM FIVE YEARS AGO AFTER I TOLD I WASN'T GOING TO WALK AGAIN.
MOVED UP HERE, GOT A JOB, LEARNED TO WALK, BOUGHT A TRUCK AND HAD A KID.
IS. I MEAN, THE THE GARBAGE IS, YOU KNOW, THE DUMPING, THE CRIME.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE FIGURED OUT.
I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING FOR SOMEBODY.
LIKE WHEN WE RIDE AND THEY'RE OUT THERE SHOOTING, WE SLOW DOWN FOR THEM.
WE PASS THEM WITH SOME DISTANCE.
SAFETY LIKE THAT JUST RULES NEED TO BE INTEGRATED.
AND IT'S. I AIN'T GOT MUCH MORE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
SO ARE YOU NEXT? GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TERRY JOHNSTON.
I'M A 23 YEAR RESIDENT HERE IN PALM BAY.
I LIVE IN 1497 BEACH STREET SOUTHEAST.
SO MY KIDS GREW UP OUT IN THE COMPOUND, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE DOGS OUT THERE, WALKING, RIDING FOUR WHEELERS AT ONE TIME.
WHILE IT WASN'T PROMOTED, IT WAS ALLOWED, I GUESS, BY THE DEPARTMENT POLICE DEPARTMENT AT ONE POINT WHEN IT WASN'T QUITE AS BAD AS IT HAS GOTTEN OVER THE YEARS. POLK COUNTY HAD A VERY SIMILAR PROBLEM TO WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW, WHERE RESIDENTS WERE SPEAK SPEAK ON THE MIC, SIR. WE'RE RESIDENTS HAD ISSUES WITH PEOPLE RIDING FOUR WHEELERS AND WHATNOT.
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PRIVATE PERSONAL CITIZENS.SO NO, NO MONEY OUT OF THE COUNTY BUDGET IN THEIR CASE.
AND THEN AFTER THEY OPENED IT, THEY HAVE A DAY USE FEE, WHICH IS VERY MINOR FOR RESIDENTS IN POLK COUNTY THAT THEN FUNDS THE OPERATION OF IT YEARLY.
AND THEY'RE IN A NET NET MODE NOW WHERE IT DOESN'T COST ANY MONEY TO THE COUNTY BUDGET AT ALL.
THEY HAVE A VERY BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AND RIDE THEIR ATVS AND WHATNOT, AND IT'S A VERY MANAGED AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
THAT'S ALL. SOMETHING WE MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO AS A CITY.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THIS SECTION WISH TO SPEAK? ANYONE ELSE IN THIS SECTION WISH TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO MOVE INTO THIS SECTION.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS POINT.
COME ON UP. ANYONE ELSE IN THIS SECTION.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.
I LIVE AT 348 BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.
ALL THE BAYSIDE HIGH KIDS HUNG OUT AT THE COMPOUND.
WHEN WOODS EXIST AND THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE, THEY FIND THEM AND THEY GO TO THEM.
WHAT DID IT TAKE? THE NEXT SCENE, UNCLE SCAR SAID, WELL, THERE'S NOTHING COOL THERE.
SO YOU HAVE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HERE LIVING THE FLORIDA LIFESTYLE.
I'VE GOT HAIR LIKE ME, MAYBE GOT TAN SKIN LIKE ME, WHATEVER IT IS.
WHAT'S THERE? STREETS. REALLY, REALLY STRAIGHT STREETS WHERE YOU CAN TEST IF YOU WANT TO BE A DRAG RACER.
IF YOU WANT TO BE A DRIFTER, IT IS LITERALLY A TRAP FOR THE ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO PREVENT.
NOW, WHAT'S BEEN UNDERSTATED THIS EVENING THUS FAR IS THIS MAP RIGHT HERE HAS A CHECKERED LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT THAT CHECKERED LINES TO INDICATE WHERE THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO GO.
OKAY. AND WILL IT HAPPEN A WHILE FROM NOW? SOON, WHO KNOWS? BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO ALONG THAT CHECKERED LINE, WHICH IS GOING TO BIFURCATE THE COMPOUND, ESTABLISH THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO GET CUT INTO TWO PIECES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ON THIS SIDE.
EAST, RIGHT? THAT PROBABLY DOES NEED HOUSES AND DEVELOPMENT.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY PAVE THE ROADS OF 49 AND YOU COULD JUST CONTINUE THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU'RE ON THE WEST SIDE OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING.
NO PROBLEM. WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT.
WE NEED MORE RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
MR BATTEN I'LL BE TALKING TO YOU.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE A MEMBER VERY SIMILAR TO THE PORT MALABAR FIRE.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S BETTER THAN A JEEP? A BRONCO? THE BRONCOS LET THE BRONCOS RUN, LET THE DIRT BIKES RUN.
BUT WE NEED TO EMBRACE THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T SIMPLY JUST PUT UP BARRIERS.
WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT TOGETHER AND WE ARE GOING TO EMBRACE WHAT IT IS THE THE BEAUTIFUL, THE EDGE OF THE SHADOW LAND, THE NICE SCENES, EVERYTHING THAT IT IS MR BATTEN'S PREVIOUS POINT, THE FLOODPLAIN EDGE THAT IT IS.
WE NEED TO DETERMINE THE TWO SIDES.
ADDRESS BOTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FROM THIS SECTION? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SECTION? MA'AM. DID YOU JUST RAISE YOUR HAND? OKAY. YOU WOULD JUST.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE DEAD CENTER.
AND THEN YOU'RE NEXT, SIR, WITH THE COVER IN THE SHADES ON THE COVER.
MY PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE COMPOUND.
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I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 22 YEARS.UH, IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SO MUCH CONCERNED.
OUR PROBLEM IS NOT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMPOUND.
IT'S THE PEOPLE GETTING TO THE COMPOUND.
THERE'S OFF ROAD VEHICLES GOING UP AND DOWN OZMOSIS DRIVE RIGHT NOW.
AND I HAVE TO COMMEND THE PALM BAY POLICE FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
IT HAS. UH, GONE DOWN DRASTICALLY.
WHEREAS A WEEKEND DAY BEFORE, UP TO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I'D HAVE 2 TO 300 ILLEGAL VEHICLES BY MY HOME IN ONE DAY. UH, AND I'M NOT EXAGGERATING.
AND THE VIDEOS THAT DON SHOWED YOU, THAT'S THE SOUNDTRACK OF MY LIFE.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON EVERY DAY IN FRONT OF MY HOME.
AND THESE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT, WELL, I OWN PROPERTY IN THE IN THE COMPOUND.
THEY MIGHT OWN A QUARTER ACRE OUT THERE.
THEY JUST USE THAT TO UNLOAD THEIR VEHICLES AND THEN RIDE FOR MILES.
YOU KNOW, SO IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER.
BUT MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS THE ILLEGAL TRAFFIC ON OUR CITY STREETS.
HOLD ON. THE GENTLEMAN HAS THE MIC AND I HEAR SO MANY FOLKS, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I'M GIVING EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS.
LET'S BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL FOR EVERYONE THAT'S SPEAKING ON THE MIC.
CARRY ON, SIR. BUT LIKE I SAY, I'VE DEALT WITH IT FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S IT'S CONSTANT NOISE.
WE HAD HAD OFF ROAD VEHICLES BY MY HOME UP UNTIL 2 A.M.
LAST NIGHT. AND THIS IS THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL.
THEY'VE ACTUALLY STARTED TICKETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY USED TO JUST IGNORE IT.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.
FROM THE MIDDLE. SIR, YOU WERE NEXT.
MY NAME IS RICK. THE MIKE CLOSE.
I'M A NEWBIE HERE FROM PENNSYLVANIA.
A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS SUCH THING AS A COMPOUND.
IT IS BEAUTIFUL. I GO THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY.
I'M A MODEL AIRPLANE. IT WOULD BE A SHAME.
ADD THE KING ORANGE GOES ON THERE EVERY YEAR.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS? SAY AGAIN, SIR.
YOU NOTORIOUS? FREE FLIGHT MODEL AIRPLANE.
WE WANT, SIR. FREE FLIGHT MODEL AIRPLANES.
OKAY. THEY FLY THERE EVERY YEAR TO A THING CALLED THE KING ORANGE.
AND TO SHUT THEM PEOPLE DOWN WOULD BE A SHAME.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE I WAS SIX YEARS OLD.
AND IT'S AN AMAZING PLACE TO ME.
COME ON UP AND THEN YOU'RE NEXT, MA'AM.
A LOT OF US HAVE GROWN UP HERE.
MOST OF US HAVE MOVED FROM OTHER AREAS FOR THE SERENITY THAT SOUTHWEST PALM BAY HAD TO OFFER.
WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT JUST INDUSTRIALIZED OUT THERE.
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WE NEED TO THINK HARD ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO BUILD IT AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT OUT THERE.IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT OUT THERE.
IT'S GOING TO CREATE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC, WHICH YOU ALL KNOW.
AND ANYBODY THAT LIVES HERE KNOWS THAT THE TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE.
I MOVED FROM ORLANDO TO GET AWAY FROM THAT TRAFFIC AND IT HAS FOLLOWED ME.
IT TAKES ME 45 MINUTES TO GET TO EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD TO GO TO WORK BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO WORK IN MELBOURNE IF YOU'RE NOT RETAIL OR A SMALL DOCTOR'S OFFICE, THE HOSPITAL WHICH IS PALM BAY OR YOU'RE YOU'RE MOVING AND OR HARRIS OR GRUMMAN, YOU'RE WORKING IN MELBOURNE.
SO IT'S 45 MINUTES TO WORK AND 45 MINUTES HOME FROM WORK.
THAT'S HOW BAD THE TRAFFIC IS HERE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE ROUTES IN TO ONE DESIGNATED AREA AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INDUSTRIALIZING THIS, WHAT NUMBER ONE, WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY VALUE OUT THERE? AND THE SERENITY AND PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE NOISE NOW FROM THE ATVS OR THE PEOPLE RIDING THEIR THEIR DIRT BIKES.
THINK ABOUT DUMP TRUCKS AND CARS GOING BY YOUR HOME EVERY DAY, ALL DAY.
I WALK EVERY DAY AND I HAVE YET TO SEE.
AND I'VE DRIVEN OUT THERE IN THE SO-CALLED COMPOUND.
THE SIGNS THAT THERE ARE ARE SHOT UP AND THERE ARE NO NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.
YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY, WHAT IS OWNED THERE.
I HAVEN'T SEEN A NO TRESPASSING SIGN EVER.
AND AND I'VE LIVED THERE ALMOST A YEAR.
THERE. THE POLICE CAN'T TELL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO COME OUT THERE AND RIDE THEIR ATVS.
CAN'T TELL. THEY CAN'T THEY CAN'T TELL WHAT PROPERTY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON AND WHAT THEY'RE NOT.
AND THERE USED TO BE STREET SIGNS.
ONCE YOU PASS OUR HOUSE, WHICH IS THE LAST HOUSE IN THE COMPOUND.
THERE ARE ONCE YOU GET A BLOCK AWAY, THERE ARE NO STREET SIGNS.
THERE ARE OCCASIONALLY THERE ARE STRIP BARS WHICH AT LEAST HAD THE DOT PUT UP.
A BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO STOP SIGNS TO GO WITH A STOP BARS.
IF SOMEBODY HAD AN ACCIDENT THERE, THEY COULD SUE THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND ANYBODY WITH A MUTCD ON THEIR DESK WOULD WIN.
WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING, MA'AM, AND.
THAT WAS MORE LIKE A NICKEL, MA'AM.
OKAY, I'M SHIFTING OVER TO MY RIGHT.
I SEE THIS YOUNG LADY BACK THERE AND THEN MS..
HELLO, MY NAME IS ROBIN GALLO.
I MOVED HERE FROM NEW YORK A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
SO I FELT THAT THE LAST TIME I WAS AT MY MICROPHONE, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
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WHERE IS THE SAFETY? AND I JUST WALKED IN, SO I'VE ONLY HEARD SOME COMMENTS FOR LIKE THE LAST LADY SAID, THERE'S NO TRESPASSING SIGNS.AND IF RVS OR WHATEVER THOSE BIKES ARE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE IN WEEDS GETTING KILLED AND NOT BEING FOUND, WHAT? DO YOU WANT ME TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE, LIKE, THE LAST MEETING THAT SURVEILLANCE HAS TO BE PUT UP OR PATROLMEN HAVE TO BE OVER THERE? THAT'S A QUESTION.
NO, MA'AM. THIS THIS THIS EXCHANGE IS YOU PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK, YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
AND IF THERE IS NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, I MEAN, AM I ALLOWED TO ASK IF THERE WAS ANY IF THERE'S ANY UPDATES ON THE JEREMIAH AND TRAYVON CASE? I MEAN, THERE'S A GUY OR A GIRL, OLDER MAN, YOUNGER KID, WE DON'T KNOW WHO KILLED TWO KIDS AND THEY'RE JUST ROAMING AROUND.
SO NOW IT'S TURNING INTO A FEAR, WHEREAS OTHER KIDS WANT TO DRIVE THEIR LITTLE BIKES OVER THERE.
IT EITHER CUT DOWN AND MORE POLICE ACTIVITY OR SURVEILLANCE.
SO WE'RE GOING ON FOR MONTHS NOW.
AND THAT MURDERER IS JUST OUT THERE ROAMING THE STREETS TO DO IT AGAIN.
DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER ONE? AND SINCE YOU HAVE NO ANSWERS, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
MR. RIGHT. SHE FELT, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU COME UP AND GIVE US A STATUS UPDATE ON ON THE CASE IF IF YOU'RE ABLE TO. GOOD EVENING, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
MY NAME IS ISABEL WRIGHT. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE EITHER COUNTY, STATE OR CITY OWNED.
THE GENTLEMAN WAS MENTIONING THE POLK PARK, WHICH IS A IS A BEAUTIFUL COMBINATION OF PRIVATELY OWNED LAND AND CITY OWNED LIKE WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. SO THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THE LAND, THEY'RE GETTING A USAGE FEE OR A DEDUCTION IN TAXES IN ORDER FOR THEM TO ALLOW THE PARK TO HAPPEN.
WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED THIS PARK.
WE NEED AN ATV PARK SO THAT WE CAN RIDE IT.
WE ARE GOING TO GET AN INFLUX OF OF TOURISTS THAT ARE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE THE PARK TO GO TO THE POOL AND ALL THAT AND THEN COME OVER HERE AND RIDE. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE PARKS THAT WE RESEARCHED WERE PARKS ARE OPEN ON FRIDAYS, SATURDAYS, SUNDAYS.
SOME OF THEM ARE OPEN EVERY DAY.
THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH OUTSIDE COMPANIES TO PROVIDE ATVS.
IF YOU WANT TO BECOME MEMBERS, THEY HAVE A $10 FEE PER PERSON, $40 PER VEHICLE.
THEY HAVE EVERYTHING IN DIFFERENT PARKS, HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS.
I THINK IF WE INVEST OUR TIME INTO LOOKING AT THE THE WAY THAT THE OTHER CITIES HAVE THE THE PARKS PUT TOGETHER, IT WOULD BE AN AMAZING INCOME PRODUCING SITUATION FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND IF YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US, WHAT ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO TO ENTERTAIN OUR FAMILIES WHEN WE DON'T HAVE NOTHING IN PALM BAY? I UNDERSTAND CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED THERE, BUT I'M ORIGINALLY FROM LOS ANGELES.
BUT WE CAN'T CLOSE DOWN A WHOLE SITUATION BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED WITH WITH CRIME.
WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.
THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT PARK IN ORDER TO ENJOY.
WE BARBECUE OUT THERE, WE HAVE FUN AND IT CAN BE A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A CRIMINAL ACTIVITY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS AT THAT COMPOUND.
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AND I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND TO LOOK INTO THIS POSSIBILITY AND LOOK AT THE PATTERNS FROM OTHER CITIES AND OTHER COUNTIES AND MAKE THE COMPOUND SOMETHING LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE.AND I DO HAVE THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE.
PEOPLE SIGN WAIVERS SO THE CITY WILL NOT BE CHARGED FOR ANYTHING.
AND I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT PALM BAY IS LAID OUT LIKE A LABYRINTH, LIKE A MAZE.
AND THERE ARE ONLY LIKE SEVERAL ROUTES THAT WILL TAKE YOU SOUTH TO VERO BEACH, WHERE MOST OF OUR CLIENTS WERE, AND I'D HAVE TO TAKE THEM TO ORLANDO.
AND SO SEVERAL TIMES DURING MY ENGAGEMENT AT MELBOURNE AIRPORT SHUTTLE, I HAD TO DRIVE THROUGH MOUNT PALM BAY TRAFFIC AT RUSH HOUR.
AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW IMPOSSIBLE IT WAS THAT I SPENT LIKE AN HOUR ON BETWEEN PALM BAY ROAD AND EMERSON TRYING TO GO NORTH OR TRYING TO GO SOUTH, AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE.
THERE OUGHT TO BE MORE WAYS TO GET TRAFFIC MOVING NORTH AND SOUTH AND CONNECT TO ONE ANOTHER.
KIND OF LIKE VERO BEACH IS LAID OUT LIKE A LIKE A GRID AND PALM BAY IS LAID OUT LIKE A LABYRINTH, LIKE IT'S JUST A BOTTLENECK HERE AND THERE AND EVERYWHERE. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
BUT ANYWAY, AS AS A SPACEPORT ROCKETEER, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING FOR ROCKETS.
THERE THEY LAY DOWN AND THE GRASS IS LIKE FOUR FEET HIGH.
I'VE NOTICED THAT I'VE BEEN COMING ACROSS.
ATV TRAILS, I SUPPOSE, OR WHATEVER, THROUGH THESE.
BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND ATVS GO WHEREVER THEY WANT.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
AND THEY SHOULD YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD DO WHAT THEY THEY HAVE TO DO.
BUT I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO I THINK WHAT IS NEEDED IS DESIGNATED AREAS WHERE.
YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF COOPERATION WITH THE ATVERS AND US FINDING OUR ROCKETS AND WHATEVER AND DOING OUR THING, AND THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THEIR THING.
ANYONE ELSE IN THIS SECTION? THIS YOUNG LADY, IS IT? OKAY. I'VE GOT TWO RIGHT HERE.
MA'AM, YOU WANT TO GO FIRST? AND THE YOUNG LADY IN THE HAT.
THAT'S. WITH YOU AS WELL, I BELIEVE.
MAN WITH THE HAT. YOU'RE NEXT.
AND I HAVE LISTENED TO THE ONES THAT HAVE COME TO THIS PANEL AND THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL THE COMPOUND IS, HOW WONDERFUL IT IS, AND THEY'VE ALSO SPOKE OF THINGS TO BE DONE AND CHANGED WITH THE COMPOUND, MEANING BUILDING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, HAVING SO MANY HOUSES, THEN HAVING MAYBE SOME COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AND ALL OF THAT NATURE.
MORE PEOPLE COME IN, CRIME IS GOING TO FOLLOW.
I'M HERE TO SAY THAT IT WAS MY GRANDSON, MY GRANDSON, JEREMIAH BROWN, THAT WAS KILLED WITH HIS FRIEND.
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STUFF. I CAN'T HELP BUT SAY IT'S NOTHING BUT EVIL.AND I SAY EVIL BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SO MANY DEATHS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE OUT THERE.
AS THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, THERE ARE SOME AREAS WHERE THE GRASS IS HIGH UP, SOME IS LOW, AND PEOPLE HAVE DROVE OVER THOSE, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR DIRT BIKES AND ALL OF THAT. THAT'S FINE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO FIND AN OUTLET TO HAVE FUN.
OKAY. BUT WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO THAT COMPOUND IS BEING NOTHING OTHER THAN A DEATH SENTENCE FOR MANY, MANY PEOPLE. AND EVEN IF WHAT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING OR SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THIS COMPOUND, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED LIKE TOMORROW, NOAH'S ARK WASN'T BUILT IN A DAY.
OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOLVED.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, AS LONG AS THAT COMPOUND IS OPEN AND AS LONG AS THERE IS NOTHING THAT'S BEING DONE TO SECURE FROM ANYBODY GETTING IN UNTIL THERE HAS A PLAN HAS COME UP, THERE HAS BEEN AN ACCURATE PLAN TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING TO START HAPPENING.
THE LADY TALKED ABOUT SHE HAS LAND.
OKAY. FOR FOR FOR FOR WHATEVER THE REASON IS.
THERE'S NOTHING BUILT THERE THOUGH.
SO YES, YOU DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LAND THERE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING BEING DONE.
AND I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE CLOSED DOWN UNTIL ONES DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT LAND.
HELLO, MY NAME IS CRYSTAL BROWN.
I LIVE AT 1624 JAVIER STREET IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
I AM THE MOTHER OF JEREMIAH BROWN, AND I'M SO HAPPY Y'ALL HAD THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
I'VE BEEN WAITING TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.
I HEAR WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING AND IT'S FINE ON WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.
BUT LIKE MY MOM SAID, IT'S A PROBLEM NOW.
OKAY? IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME FOR Y'ALL TO PUT ALL OF THIS IN MOTION.
SO IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT DO WE DO? I VISITED THE COMPOUND IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT THE CITY IS SUPPOSED TO BE CUTTING THE GRASS SO MANY FEET FROM THE ROADWAY.
THE GRASS IS SO HIGH OUT THERE.
IN THE MEANTIME, MAYBE Y'ALL SHOULD CUT THE GRASS, MAKE IT ALL EVEN.
YOU CAN'T PROPERLY MONITOR IT.
OCCASIONALLY, YOU KNOW, TO MONITOR THE AREA.
BUT LIKE MY MOM SAID, IT'S PROBABLY QUARTZ OUT THERE.
WE JUST HEARD OF A LADY BEING BURIED, BURNT UP.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, COME ON, THAT'S FINE.
I KNOW. LIKE, I REALLY DO NOT.
BUT I FEEL LIKE IT'S A PROBLEM.
PUT POLES OUT THERE WITH LIGHTS.
IT'S DARK OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES.
SO, YEAH, SO LIKE I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE PUT POLES UP THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST LIGHT IT UP, YOU KNOW? AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA TO KIND OF CUT THAT GRASS.
WHAT IS IT GOING TO HURT IN THE MEANTIME? YOU KNOW, JUST TO HAVE AN OPEN FIELD SO YOU CAN SEE CLEARLY WHAT'S GOING ON AND SOMEONE IS NOT GOING TO COMMIT A CRIME BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S DAY OR NIGHT.
IF A PERSON WANTS TO COMMIT A CRIME, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, YOU KNOW? BUT WITH THAT GRASS BEING SO HIGH, IT HIDES A LOT OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE.
SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I'M, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE WHAT Y'ALL DO WITH IT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT I FEEL LIKE IN THE MEANTIME, YES, MORE PATROL, MORE POLICEMEN, YOU KNOW, CUT THE GRASS, PUT LIGHTS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, AND JUST TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE SAFER FOR THE ONES THAT ARE TRYING TO GO OUT THERE TO ENJOY, I
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GUESS, THE SERENITY OF, YOU KNOW, AS THEY SEE IT.BUT, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME COME UP HERE AND TALK.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING, MA'AM.
AND EVEN MOREOVER, JUST KNOW THAT OUR PRAYERS HAVE BEEN OF PEACE FOR YOUR FAMILY.
I APPRECIATE WE WE ARE TRULY SORRY FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE THAT WE HAD OUT THERE, THE TWO THE TWO LIVES THAT WERE TAKEN AND THERE WERE YOUNG LIVES. SO WE WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP AND SHARING YOUR INPUT.
YES. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
IS IT OKAY TO HAVE POLICE CHIEF COME UP AND PERHAPS PROVIDE A STATUS UPDATE? YES, I'LL HAVE THEM COME UP.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT WE CAN SHARE, BUT.
YES, MA'AM. WHATEVER CAN BE SHARED.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S SENSITIVITY, BUT THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY THAT BROUGHT IT UP.
AND SO WE HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS HERE.
GOOD EVENING. SO CORRECT CITY MANAGER'S IS CORRECT ON THAT.
AS THE REST OF YOU GUYS ARE AWARE AS WELL.
THERE'S NOT MUCH I'M GOING TO PROVIDE THIS EVENING WITH REGARDS TO CERTAIN QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED OR DEMANDS THAT WERE ASKED BY INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF THE FAMILY AS RECENTLY AS IN THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, I SPOKE WITH THE FAMILY AND WE ARE UPDATING AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AND CAN PROVIDE BECAUSE IT IS AN OPEN INVESTIGATION. WHAT I CAN GUARANTEE AND TELL EVERYONE, WHICH I'VE BEEN TELLING THE FAMILY AND SPEAKING WITH THE FAMILY IS THAT.
WE HAVEN'T STOPPED WORKING IT.
AND THAT'S JUSTICE FOR BOTH OF THEM.
THAT'S ALL I CAN ADD AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU, CHIEF, IN THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. WE DID HAVE ANOTHER YOUNG LADY THAT WISHED TO SPEAK.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS TAEKWONDO GIBSON.
PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD WAS MY RESIDENCE FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.
THAT'S WHERE MY MOM CONTINUES TO RESIDE.
HER SON WAS JEREMIAH, WHO LOST HIS LIFE OUT THERE IN THE COMPOUND.
MY BIGGEST THING IS I FEEL LIKE IT'S A LOT OF SELFISHNESS THAT GOES ON.
I'M SORRY. I WAS KIND OF TOYING WITH MYSELF ABOUT EVEN COMING UP HERE TO SPEAK.
SO I'M A LITTLE MY NERVES ARE ON END AND I'M NOT ALWAYS LIKE THAT, BUT CAN RELAX.
YES, SIR. BUT A LOT OF SELFISHNESS.
WHEN I SIT IN THIS MEETING TONIGHT, I THINK THE BIGGER PICTURE IS OUR CHILDREN, OUR FUTURE.
WHEN WE CAME HERE FOR OUR INITIAL MEETING, I FORGOT.
EARLIER THIS YEAR I MADE A COMMENT ABOUT OUR KIDS, OUR FUTURE.
WHEN I LOOK IN THIS ROOM, WE'RE ALL WORKING PEOPLE.
WE GOT KIDS, SOME OF US GOT KIDS, GRANDKIDS, GREAT GRANDKIDS.
OKAY, SO WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT GENERATION? BECAUSE AS WE CAN SEE, THEY'RE PERISHING.
LIKE I SAID, BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE.
I'VE HAD SEVERAL VISITS TO THE COMPOUND.
DID I DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL OUT THERE? NO. I WENT OUT THERE WITH FRIENDS GROWING UP.
WE RODE OUR DIRT BIKES, ATVS, WHATEVER.
OKAY. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THESE GENERATIONS AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
OF COURSE IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
WE GET IT. BUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, LIKE EXPEDITIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE BEFORE THE YEAR ENDS TYPE OF THING.
AN OLDER GENTLEMAN GOT UP HERE AND HE SAID, WE'VE HAD THESE MEETINGS BEFORE.
20 YEARS AGO WE SPOKE ABOUT THE SAME THING.
NOTHING HAPPENING BUT SIN DEATH.
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ATV AREA, KEEP SOMETHING FOR THEM TO DO BECAUSE GOD FORBID, WE DON'T NEED IT LIKE WEST PALM.WE DON'T NEED IT LIKE MIAMI BECAUSE THEY WILL RIDE AND WE KNOW THAT THE COPS CAN'T CATCH THEM.
THE OTHER HALF DO SOMETHING OTHER THAN PUT HOUSES.
WE GOT ENOUGH OF THAT, ENOUGH TRAFFIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, JUST MY THING IS, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I RESPECT IT.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. EILEEN SEPP FROM 1234 RAIL ROAD NORTHEAST.
AND I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO WHAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN DREAMING ABOUT FOR THIS AND EVERY PROBLEM, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE SOLUTIONS.
BUT THE ONE THING I DIDN'T HEAR WAS HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THESE THINGS DONE.
NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITHOUT A HUGE INFUSION OF CASH.
YOU KNOW, HANG OUT AND MEET PEOPLE.
IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO IT, BUT IT TAKES WORK AND IT TAKES DOING RESEARCH AND FINDING PEOPLE, COMPANIES, WHATEVER. WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE COMPOUND BE A LANDMARK WHERE PEOPLE WOULD COME TO PALM BAY JUST TO SEE WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH IT. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I CAN SAY OTHER THAN I THINK THE NOTION THAT CRIME FOLLOWS YOU IS A HORRIBLE NOTION. I LIVED IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE NOTHING EVER HAPPENED.
AND. NO LIFE CAN CAN BE PUT DOWN TO JUST A CRIME WHERE SOMEONE STEALS A CANDY BAR. IT'S SO MUCH MORE SERIOUS.
NO LIFE, YOUNG, OLD OR WHATEVER IS WORTH RISKING BY LEAVING IT AS IT IS.
SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND I CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.
SEEING NONE. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO END THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION OF OUR WORKSHOP AND WANT TO ENTERTAIN THE DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL.
MADAM SHERMAN, I'D LIKE TO JUST ASK, YOU KNOW, THE SOME OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP REGARDING DRONE AND WHO'S BETTER QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
WITH? IS IT IN PARTICULAR WITH THE FAA AND.
YES, MA'AM. I'LL DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO START.
THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS, BUT THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC AND LIMITED.
BUT IT'S REALLY GOVERNMENT REALLY DID NOT WANT, ESPECIALLY HERE IN FLORIDA, TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE POLICE BE ABLE TO MONITOR AND SURVEIL PEOPLE FROM A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD NORMALLY NOT BE SEEN.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT LIKE THE NSA THAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY LOOK DOWN ON US PRETTY MUCH.
IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? YES, SIR. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WE UNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I WANTED TO.
OKAY. FOLLOW UP, MADAM ATTORNEY, CONSIDERING THE THE COMPOUND AS ITS CURRENT STATE.
WOULD THAT APPLY? WOULD THOSE RULE WOULD APPLY? NOT HAVING ANY CURRENT, YOU KNOW, HOUSING OUT THERE NOT HAVING HOW WOULD WOULD THAT WOULD YOU GIVE US A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THAT? A PERSON IS PRESUMED TO HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON HIS OR HER PRIVATELY OWNED REAL PROPERTY.
IF HE OR SHE IS NOT OBSERVABLE BY PERSONS LOCATED AT GROUND LEVEL IN A PLACE WHERE THEY HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO BE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER SHE IS OBSERVABLE FROM THE AIR OR WITH THE USE OF A DRONE, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE ALL OF THOSE LOTS ARE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THERE IS A HOUSE OR A STRUCTURE, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO BE.
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UNDER FLORIDA LAW, TO BE ON YOUR PROPERTY WITHOUT SOMEBODY SURVEILLING POLICE, SURVEILLING YOU WITHOUT CAUSE.CERTAINLY THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE WE BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY IS A TERRORIST.
YOU KNOW, FIRE HAS THE ABILITY AND THERE ARE OTHERS.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE PEOPLE NORMALLY AT THE LEVEL.
I WANTED TO JUST COVER THE DRONE ASPECT TO THAT.
COUNCIL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I'LL START WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO ANOTHER THING I KNOW OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE LOOKED INTO IT AND IT WAS MENTIONED BY MR. GORM SHOTSPOTTER TECHNOLOGY.
WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN THAT.
WE HAVE WE HAVE THE PORT MALABAR GUN RANGE, WE HAVE FROG BONES.
WE HAVE THE GUN RANGE DOWN IN INDIAN RIVER.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACES IN REGARDS TO THE SHOOTING ASPECT.
SO I THINK SHOTSPOTTER TECHNOLOGY IS A QUICK LOOK THAT WE CAN DO.
BUT I SPOKE TO THEM ABOUT THE COMPOUND AS WELL AS OTHER APPLICANTS THAT ARE LOOKING AT DEVELOPING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN REGARDS TO LAND ASSEMBLAGE, BUYING UP MULTIPLE LOTS AND DEVELOPING IT.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, TOO, WHETHER WE, YOU KNOW, DIRECT STAFF OR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO LOOK INTO COMPANIES THAT OPERATE ATV PARKS OR COMPANIES THAT OPERATE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE HAVE OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT ARE LOOKING FROM THE SPACE INDUSTRY, LOOKING AT THE COMPOUND.
YES, IT'S GOING TO BE LENGTHY, BUT THAT CAN BE THE LONG TERM APPROACH.
IN REGARDS TO THE SHORT TERM, UM, OUR POLICE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH MORE TO COVER WITH THE CITY.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS LOOK AT TECHNOLOGY AND UTILIZE IT TO OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR ADVANTAGE.
SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS RIGHT NOW.
MAYOR, I APPRECIATE ALL THE DIALOG THAT WE'VE HAD HERE.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG FEW MONTHS, ESPECIALLY MRS MRS BROWN I'M LOOKING DIRECTLY AT YOU, MA'AM.
I KNOW I CAN NEVER BE BE ABLE TO FATHOM WHAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE GOING THROUGH, BUT WE'RE HERE WITH YOU AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN MULTIPLE MONTHS SINCE DECEMBER 25TH, BUT WE'RE STILL HERE FOR YOU. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS GETTING THIS RESOLVED.
AND TO EVERYBODY ELSE, THIS IS OUR TOP PRIORITY, TOO.
REACHING OUT TO THE MAYOR, MYSELF, ANYBODY ELSE.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS WHAT I SEE AS THE MAIN THING IS THE SHOOTING'S OUT THERE.
SO I THINK SHOTSPOTTER TECHNOLOGY IS SOMETHING OF A QUICK THING WE CAN LOOK AT.
MAYOR, HAVE YOU RESEARCHED SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THAT? WELL WELL, THAT'S WHERE THROUGH PROCUREMENT WE CAN HAVE A COMPETITIVE BID TO DRIVE TO DRIVE DOWN THE COST.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DEPUTY MAYOR.
LET ME START TO SPEAK TO THE FAMILY THAT LOST THE YOUNG MAN OR THE TWO GENTLEMEN LAST DECEMBER.
CERTAINLY OUR HEARTS GOES OUT TO YOU.
AND I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO THE FACT SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THAT WERE MADE.
AND I TRULY SORRY, I KNOW IT'S EASY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, KEEP IT AS IS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT PLACE AND THIS AND THAT.
ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE AND I TRULY APOLOGIZE.
AND I KNOW FOR ONE, THAT LOST A FAMILY MEMBER THAT DIDN'T THAT MUST HAVE HURT TO HEAR THAT THE THE NOTION OF DIMINISHING A LOST LIFE, ESPECIALLY A YOUNG ONE.
I COULDN'T IMAGINE BEING IN YOUR POSITION.
AND CERTAINLY I DIDN'T TAKE THAT LIGHTLY.
AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I HEARD YOU AND EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE.
WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK AT IT.
BUT BUT CERTAINLY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MENTIONED QUITE A BIT OF OF POSSIBLE SOLUTION, WHICH I WOULD ECHO THE SAME, I THINK LAND USE, THE ZONING ASPECT OF IT, THOSE ARE WITHIN OUR PURVIEW THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO ACT RIGHT AWAY AND CERTAINLY LOOKING AT POSSIBLE PRIVATE PARTNER, PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP IN SOME OF THE THE THE, YOU KNOW, ASPECT,
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BRINGING SOMETHING OUT THERE ON SOME OF THE LAND THAT WE USE.I MEAN, WE CURRENTLY OWN, THOSE ARE SOME POSSIBLE QUICK, QUICKER MOVE WE CAN MAKE.
BUT CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME.
I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT, YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY SECURE THAT AREA AND ALSO KEEP THE ASPECT OF A GREAT, GREAT OUTDOOR IN TERMS OF TO TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME OF THESE ACTIVITIES.
WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW TO TO TO MOVE FORWARD.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
AND I'M GOING TO BEGIN MY MY COMMENTS.
GOD BLESS YOU. YOU HAVE A PRAYING MAYOR.
THE LOSS OF LIFE IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS FOR ANYONE TO ENDURE, IN PARTICULAR WHEN IT'S A CHILD.
OF HIS LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS.
IT IS STILL HEAVY ON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEIR MINDS AND THEIR SOULS.
AND THEY'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS INVESTIGATION.
AND I'M SORRY THAT HE CAN'T SHARE MUCH MORE.
BUT THE ASSURANCE THAT IT IS A PRIORITY NOT ONLY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE IN PALM BAY, BUT FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US THAT SIT UP HERE. OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU OF COMFORT WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUES AT HAND.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR NEXT STEPS, I'M ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
UH, THE DISCUSSION OF AN FPL SUBSTATION IS CRITICAL TO THE GROWTH OF THAT AREA.
RIGHT, MA'AM. AND AND SO PART OF THAT.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE A CORRIDOR THAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.
AND IN THAT COURT, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPOUND, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO WITH OUR OWN PROPERTY, RIGHT? AND THAT IS THE FUTURE LAND USE THAT IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT CORRIDOR WE CAN CONTROL.
AND RIGHT NOW, THERE'S OVER 2900 ACRES.
I BELIEVE THAT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL TO THAT CORRIDOR.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO RE DESIGNATE THE FUTURE LAND USE.
AND PART OF THAT I LOVE THE FPL, LIKE I LIKE I MENTIONED.
WILL THE CITIZENS THAT OWN ALL THESE PROPERTIES OUT THERE? ARE THEY WILLING TO INVEST IN THEIR OWN PROPERTY LIKE FOR DECADES NOW? THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN VALUED AT 1000 OR $2000.
AND AND THEY'RE PAYING TAXES OF, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LESS THAN LESS THAN $100.
RIGHT. WHAT WHAT ARE THEY WILLING TO DO? MOST OF THEM DID THAT AS AN INVESTMENT.
ARE THEY WILLING TO DO A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT SO THAT THEY CAN CREATE PROPERTY VALUES OUT THERE AS WELL? SO THOSE ARE THOUGHTS THAT LOOKING AND LIKE YOU SAID, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THIS IS NOT A NEXT DAY FIX.
THIS IS A LONG RANGE PLANNING.
UM, ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SPOKE, SHE SHE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITHIN THOSE 20 YEARS.
SO WHAT ARE WE PREPARED TO DO THAT 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN MY GREAT GRANDCHILDREN ARE HERE? WHAT WHAT CAN BE SAID THAT WE DID HERE COLLECTIVELY TO MAKE A CHANGE, A POSITIVE CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY? CERTAINLY AN ATV PARK IS IS PART OF THAT WE'RE GIVING AND EVEN MORE SO.
I LOVE KAMARAJ MENTIONED AN AMPHITHEATER.
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THE USE THAT WE CAN HAVE HERE WITH AN AMPHITHEATER IS HUGE.SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND I'D LOVE TO GO DOWN THAT RANGE OF THESE NEXT STEPS.
NONE OF THAT AMPHITHEATER PARK CANNOT BE DONE WITHOUT DEALING WITH A STRATEGIC PLAN AND SO ON.
SO MADAM SHERMAN, YOU GOT KIND OF LIKE A CONSENSUS HERE ON WITH THE THREE MEMBERS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR US TO TO TACKLE NEXT? UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK AND ALL THE RESIDENTS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO SPOKE TONIGHT.
I THINK WE HAVE A CLEARER SENSE OF WHERE YOU'D LIKE US TO GO.
I THINK A NUMBER OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT AND DO SOME MORE HOMEWORK ON RELATE TO THE THE BIG HEAVY LIFT, WHICH RELATES TO ALL THE INDIVIDUAL LEONE PROPERTIES AND WHAT ARE THE FINANCIAL MECHANISMS WE CAN USE TO ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THAT CHANGE.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE MENTIONED THAT YOU ACTUALLY JUST REFERENCED, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS, WHETHER WE'RE GOING DOWN A PATH OF EMINENT DOMAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONSIDER.
AND IF YOU WANT US TO JUST KEEP ALL THOSE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE, THEN WHAT WE'LL DO IS GO FORWARD AND START REALLY DIGGING INTO THOSE AND SEEING WHAT THOSE COSTS ARE FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS. AND THEN BRING BACK TO YOU SOME STRATEGIES THAT WE CAN OFFER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ACTUAL VOTING AT A REGULAR MEETING.
AND I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT I FROM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND LET ME LET ME GET THE CITY ATTORNEY'S FEEDBACK ON THIS, MADAM SMITH.
UM. WHEN IT COMES TO EMINENT DOMAIN, WOULD THAT BE MORE OF FOR A PARK? IS A PARK FOR THE GREATER GOOD? OF THIS COMMUNITY.
IS THAT IS THAT PART OF THE CRITERIA FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YES, IT CAN BE A PARK.
YOU CAN SOMEONE MENTIONED A COMMUNITY CENTER.
THERE IS A NUMBER OF THINGS, AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST WORKSHOP AS FAR AS WHAT THE STATUTE ALLOWS.
THERE CERTAINLY RIGHT OF WAY ADDITIONAL ROAD LAND FOR THE ROADS, WHETHER IT LAND FOR TO EXPAND UPON UTILITIES.
ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE USES.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
BUT I LOVE THE IDEA OF AN ATV PARK.
THE IDEA OF HAVING THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY OUTPUT RECREATION, IF YOU WILL.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
MADAM SHERMAN YOU DO HAVE ENOUGH TO MOVE FORWARD.
GOOD. OKAY. WELL, OUTSTANDING.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN OUR WORKSHOP.
TRULY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.