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THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF APRIL 5TH, 2023, IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.MR BOEREMA. WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE? WE ARE. CAROL, MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? OKAY. THANK YOU.
OKAY. MR BOEREMA PRESIDENT MR. GOOD PRESENT, MISS JORDAN PRESENT, MR. MCLEOD. MR. OLSZEWSKI. PRESENT.
MR. KARAFFA HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED, AND OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS, IS PRESENT.
WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE MARCH 1ST MEETING?
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SO MOVED. MOVED? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION APPROVED.THE AUDIENCE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS MADE UP OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.
AT THIS TIME, THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION AND HEARING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.
I. AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT OUR NEW BOARD MEMBER AT THE FAR RIGHT.
JEFFREY MACLEOD IS NEW TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
BE HERE. THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO.
WELL, OUR FIRST CASE, WHICH WILL BE 23 ONE L3.
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HARRIS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY ALREADY.
FOR OUR FIRST CASE TONIGHT, WE HAVE FS 20 3-00001 IS BROUGHT TO US BY ANDREW DUGGAN AND L3 HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES, LOCATED IN THE VICINITY WEST OF TRAUTMAN BOULEVARD, NORTHEAST IN BINARY LANE NORTHEAST.
THE OVERALL SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 117.73 ACRES IN SIZE.
SO THIS IS WHAT OUR SUBDIVISION THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS THAT IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. FOR THESE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR THE PLATTING OF TRACKS F AND G OF THE L3 HARRIS CAMPUS AND THESE DO MEET THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING ZONING DISTRICT OF 20,000FT².
LOT TWO IS 3.77 ACRES AND LOT LOT THREE IS 4.5 ACRES RESPECTIVELY.
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ACCESS LOT SORRY ACCESS TO LOT THREE WILL BE DIRECTLY VIA A CONNECTION TO PALM BAY BOULEVARD.CASE FS 20 3-00001 MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA OF A FINAL PLAT REQUEST, SUBJECT TO STAFF COMMENTS AND IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
MR. ANDERSON DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU.
NOT AT ALL. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LETTING US GO FIRST HERE TONIGHT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE REQUEST.
I DID WANT TO INTRODUCE OUR PROJECT TEAM.
BUT WE HAVE WORKED WITH STAFF VERY CLOSELY AS WELL BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR A BIT OF A UNIQUE PLAT.
WE'RE CREATING TWO SEPARATE LOTS, SO THREE LOTS IN TOTAL AT THE EXISTING CAMPUS OF L3.
HARRIS THIS IS THE ONE AT THE EAST END OF PALM BAY ROAD.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS FOR IS FOR TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
THEIR NAMES ARE LEO AND SAM T HENCE THE NAME OF THE PLAT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THEY HAVE TO BE STANDALONE, SEPARATE LOTS, THEY HAVE SEPARATE UTILITIES, BASICALLY STANDALONE SEPARATE PROJECTS IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO FINANCE THE PROJECTS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DO MEET ALL OF THE CITY CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LOT SIZES.
WE HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF APPROVAL.
WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CREATION OF 4.6 ACRE LOT AND A 3.8 ACRE LOT FOR EACH OF THE TWO NEW FACILITIES.
RIGHT NOW THERE ARE ABOUT 92,000FT² AND 84,000FT² APIECE.
SO THERE ARE LARGE FACILITIES THAT WOULD BE BRINGING IN A LOT OF NEW JOBS.
SO WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THE TEAM HERE TONIGHT.
AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR LETTING US MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROJECT.
WARNER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
GOOD EVENING, MR. WEISS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION HERE.
WHEN WOULD YOUR PROJECTION OF CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION BE? SO OCTOBER, NOVEMBER 20TH, 24.
GOTCHA. OKAY. AND THEN I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.
AND FRANKLY, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S BEST TO ASK YOU.
MAYBE IT'S A STAFF QUESTION, MAYBE IT'S A BOTH QUESTION.
BUT HOW DOES THIS PROJECT INTERACT WITH THE TAX ABATEMENT THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WITH L3? HARRIS.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WE HAVE TAX ABATEMENT CREDITS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HTC.
STOOD. SO I GUESS MY FOLLOW UP, MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T WANT TO GO OUT OF ORDER, BUT IT'D HAVE TO BE TOWARDS STAFF WOULD JUST BE WOULD ANNEXING THESE, THESE PARCELS OFF OF THE EXISTING TAKE THEM OFF OF THE EXISTING ABATEMENT AND MAKE IT SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEEK NEW ABATEMENT SPECIFICALLY FOR THESE TWO PARCELS.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANNEXING.
WE'RE JUST DOING A FINAL PLAT HERE, SO WE'RE MAKING ONE LOT INTO THREE.
UM, AND SO I GUESS BAD USE OF THE TERM ANNEX, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE BREAKING UP THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE NEW PARCELS OF PROPERTY AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET NEW ASSESSMENTS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TAXABLE VALUE AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TAX BILLS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO IF THEY DON'T EXIST ON THE WHOLE PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS GIVEN THE ABATEMENT WHEN THEY APPROVED FOR THE HTC, WILL THOSE WILL MY INFERENCE ACTUALLY PROVE CORRECT AND THOSE TWO PARCELS WILL NOT HAVE IT AND THE ABATEMENT WILL ONLY EXIST ON THE REMAINING AND PIECE OF LAND.
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I THINK. SO.AND THEN ANY REMAINING OF THE ABATEMENT THAT WILL JUST FADE OFF AS AS IT'S INTENDED TO.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T HAVE THAT DATE.
OKAY. I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION IN DUE TIME.
THANK YOU. I'M JASON LAMBERT WITH L3.
HARRIS, VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR THE SPACE AND AIRBORNE SYSTEMS BUSINESS.
SORRY FOR THE DELAY. STUCK IN TRAFFIC ON THE WAY.
THANKS FOR THANKS FOR TAKING TAKING TIME TONIGHT.
I WANTED TO JUST EXPLAIN THE STRATEGY FOR WHY WE'RE DOING THIS.
WE HAVE ON OUR EXISTING CAMPUS, OBVIOUSLY HAVE ONE PLOT.
WE WANT TO BREAK IT OUT INTO THREE.
ONE IS FOR CALLED PROJECT LEO.
L3. HARRIS NOW TO ACQUIRE A NEW COMPANY CALLED AEROJET ROCKETDYNE BRING THAT COMPANY INTO OUR FOLD.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY A HUGE INVESTMENT THE COMPANY NEEDS TO MAKE TO DO THAT.
SO WHAT OUR STRATEGY IS TO DO IS TO HAVE A PIECE OF LAND FOR THE PROJECT.
IN THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THE SAM T IS IT'S ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE OUR HIGH TECH, IT'S OUR SEEK, OUR SECURE, IT'S OUR SECURE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY CENTER, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING TOP SECRET GOVERNMENT WORK THAT WE'RE, AGAIN, ANOTHER SET OF WORK THAT'S GOING TO BRING NEW JOBS, HIGH VALUE JOBS TO THE AREA.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A HUGE CAPITAL INVESTMENT REQUIRED TO PUT THE BUILDINGS UP.
SO WHAT OUR INTENT TO DO IS TO ENTER INTO LEASE AGREEMENTS FOR THOSE FACILITIES.
SO, ONE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH A SYNTHETIC LEASE.
WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH A BANK.
WE'RE ESSENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE SELLING THAT LAND AND THEN AND THEN POTENTIALLY PAYING A LEASE FEE ON THAT AND THEN ALSO PUTTING THE BUILDING UP TO DO ONE OF THE PROJECTS. THE OTHER ONE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THROUGH THIRD PARTY.
SO THE CONSTRUCT HERE IS ENABLE US TO BE ABLE TO GROW OUR BUSINESS, GROW OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT DO SO IN A MANNER WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO LAY OUT ALL THE CASH TO DO SO BECAUSE WE'RE A BIT CONSTRAINED WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THIS MAJOR ACQUISITION WE HAVE.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE RATIONALE BEHIND THIS.
THANK YOU. WARNER HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO COMMENTS ON THIS CASE IN THE FILE.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? YOU WENT OPPOSED.
BRATTON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE TAX ABATEMENT.
THAT WAS WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.
ALSO, I WANT TO JUST CARRY THE TAX ABATEMENT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
AS IT WAS L3, HARRIS HAS BEEN FANTASTIC TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THEY'RE DOING THEY'RE DOING EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY WANTS.
BUT YOU KNOW HOW I STAND ON TAX ABATEMENT WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO PAY AND THEN ONE OTHER INDIVIDUAL DOES NOT HAVE TO BECAUSE THEY'RE TAKING AN INVESTMENT IN INVESTMENT, TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT.
SO THAT BEING SAID, ASK WE WEREN'T SURE WHEN THE TAX ABATEMENT WILL END IF IT'S 2026, IS THAT STILL BEING CALCULATED INTO THEIR OVERALL OBJECTIVE TO MEET THEIR CRITERIA FOR THEIR TAX ABATEMENT, FOR THE NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES THAT WERE HIRED FOR THE AMOUNT OF EXPANSION IN THEIR BUSINESS GROWTH AS PER AS ONE OF THE CRITERIAS FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT.
THAT WAS IN THE FIRST QUESTION.
THE SECOND ONE, DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT? TAX ABATEMENT IS BEING IS BEING WRITTEN OFF, BEING SENT TO THE CITIZENS.
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TO THE CITIZENS. ACCOUNTABILITY, RIGHT.AND SINCE THIS IS GENERATING NEW JOBS, NEW REVENUE, WOULD IT STILL HAPPEN IF THEY DID NOT GET THE TAX ABATEMENT? WOULD THEY STAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? THAT KIND OF BOILS BACK TO THEM.
SO THAT WAS BASICALLY WHERE IT LIES, BECAUSE WHEN HARRIS CORPORATION CAME IN, AS THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE REALIZE, WE REROUTED THE ROADS, WE GAVE UP SOME COMMUNITY SECURITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS WHEN ALL OF THIS HAPPENED.
JUST WANT TO KEEP IT IN TRACK AND CHALLENGE IT ON OCCASIONS.
ARE THEY GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY? YES. IS IT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY? GOING ON THEIR PAST HISTORY, YES.
MY GOVERNMENT IS ALREADY SHORTFALL ON TAXES.
THE CITY'S ALREADY SHORTFALL ON TAXES.
SO WHY SHOULD WE BE GIVING SOMEBODY A TAX BREAK? YOU AREN'T GOING TO GIVE ME ONE.
AND I'M STRUGGLING JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER DEVELOPER.
THANK YOU. ANY MORE COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO? YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR A FINAL PLAT.
WE'RE ASKING FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
THIS IS THE FIRST MAJOR STEP FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE TWO PROJECTS.
SO WE DO MEET ALL THE CRITERIA OF AND EXCEED CITY CODE FOR THE THE PLAT TO BE APPROVED.
BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU. OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN THE CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
BOARD DO HAVE ANY ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR EMOTION? IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT A DISCUSSION OF TAX ABATEMENTS HAS ABSOLUTELY NO RELATION TO WHAT WE DO ON THIS BOARD.
IT IS STRICTLY OUT OF OUR PURVIEW.
SO HAVING SAID THAT, A MOTION TO APPROVE 23 0001 ANY EXPANSION OF L3.
SECOND. I SECOND THE MOTION MOTION AND SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, SO MUCH.
ICED TEA, 23 00002 HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO CONTINUE TO THE MAY 3RD MEETING.
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DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE? SO MOVED. SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE, AYE. CONTINUED TO THE MAY 3RD MEETING.
I'M OMAR, SENIOR PLANNER WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
I'M PRESENTING Z 23 0002 FORMERLY Z 18 2023.
THIS IS THE FIRST CASE OF THREE CASES UNDER THE SAME PROJECT TONIGHT.
AVALON FLEX APPLICANT IS BABCOCK AND MALABAR, LLC, REPRESENTED BY BOWMAN, AVALON CAPITAL AND KIMBERLY RESIDENT ATTORNEY FIRM. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CITY OF SOUTH.
OF MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF I-95 AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET, APPROXIMATELY 11.66 ACRES.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS SCC, THAT IS COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND EXISTING LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL.
THE REQUEST. THE APPLICATION APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING AMENDMENT FROM S.C.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AND THE SUBJECT PARTIAL IS A PORTION OF A LARGER PARCEL, AND THE REMAINING EASTERN PORTION OF THIS PARTIAL HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED ZONING DISTRICT OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS A PART OF A LARGER PROJECT, AS I SAID, ADLON FLEX SPACE.
AND THERE ARE TWO MORE CASES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT CASE.
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Z 23 000 TO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF REZONING REQUEST AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.THE STAFF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, MA'AM.
WHEN DID WE COME UP WITH THE NEW NUMBERING SYSTEM? THAT'S THE MS. SO WE WENT LIVE WITH NEW SOFTWARE ON MARCH 6TH.
AND THIS IS THE NEW SOFTWARE, THE MS SYSTEM ASSIGNED NEW NUMBERING.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE A LEGACY NUMBER AND THE NEW NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
SO THAT WAY WE HAVE TIED THE TWO CASES.
THESE THESE LETTER CODES AND THESE MANY ZEROS.
OKAY. I JUST JUST TO BE INFORMED OF THE PROCESS, BUT THEN I'LL ASK JUST WHILE I'M ASKING QUESTIONS, WHAT IS THIS CONGLOMERATION OF LAND FOR? MAYBE THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION READY TO TELL US THAT.
AND WE'LL I'LL HOLD MY QUESTION.
I'LL HOLD TILL THEN. I'LL HOLD TILL THEN.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION ON THE NUMBERS.
MADAM CHAIR, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORWARD? GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.
JENNIFER COCKCROFT HERE WITH LACEY LYONS ROSENKER.
WE ARE THE LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROJECT.
HE'S THE ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT AND HE CAN ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THE OVERALL PLAN.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS ITEM SOLELY THOUGH, IS THE ZONING CHANGE FROM CC TO C GC.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
BUSINESS ADDRESSES 4450 WEST, EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
SO, LIKE, UM, I EXPLAINED, THIS IS ONE OF THE THREE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE REQUESTING TODAY.
FIRST OF ALL IS IT'S THE REZONING FROM A PORTION OF THE SITE FROM CC TO GC.
RIGHT NOW THE BIG PARCEL HAS A SPLIT ZONING.
IT'S ONE OF THE UNCOMMON PIECES IN THE ZONING MAP THAT HAS A SPLIT.
SO WHAT ALL WE WERE TRYING TO DO HERE IS, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONSISTENT ZONING THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
I KNOW CITY OF PALM BAY WANTS MORE COMMERCIAL AROUND THIS AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THIS WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE DEMAND.
AND YES, AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
MAY BE A QUESTION. MORE FOR STAFF.
UH, JUST. ONCE WE ONCE WE ONCE WE CHANGE IT FROM THE SISI TO G.C.
AND IF FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY WANTED TO COME BACK AND SWITCH IT BACK TO CC BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, THEN THEY WOULD PRETTY MUCH HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF RESUBMITTING IT AND COMING BACK INTO ZONING FOR CHANGING RATHER THAN JUST GO MAKE THE CHANGE THEMSELVES.
THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY WOULD COME BACK BEFORE YOU.
AND AND IF I CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WE'RE RIGHT NOW IF IF WE COULD HAVE DONE JUST WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS GC, IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S A HALF OF THIS PORTION OF THE SITE, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS CC.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE A CONSISTENT ZONING THROUGHOUT.
I WANT TO ADD THERE'S A PIECE OF THAT PORTION THAT WE'RE KEEPING AS CC LIKE YOU SAID, BECAUSE WE'RE ANTICIPATING MAYBE A FUTURE USE ON THAT SMALL PORTION AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF PROCESS.
THIS IS A BIT UNCOMMON BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING.
WE'VE DONE A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CITY, WITH ALEX, JESSE, AND THIS WAS THE PATH THAT DAVE TOLD US TO GO WITH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
ME. HOW MANY ACRES IS THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT LITTLE CC THAT YOU WANT TO KEEP? IT WILL BE 2.2 ACRES AND IT'LL BE ON THE CORNER IF YOU SEE THAT TRIANGULAR PORTION OVER THERE.
BUT THE PROJECT TOTAL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S SO YOU HAVE 11.66 OVER THERE.
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THE REMAINING I THINK JESSE IT'S CLOSE TO.OKAY. SO THE TOTAL ACREAGE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A BUILDABLE.
ALSO, IF THIS CAN HELP AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TRACK G2 RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THAT ON THE TWO OTHER REQUESTS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
BUT BASICALLY FOR TRACK G2 RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY WORKING, SO PART OF OUR PROJECT WILL HELP WILL BENEFIT US MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT STORMWATER POND.
SO THAT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE STORMWATER ISSUES THAT THERE IS IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE DETAILED EXPLANATION.
IT REALLY HELPS FRAME THINGS UP JUST SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE CONTINUITY OF THINGS.
WHAT'S THE PRIMARY ACCESS POINT TO THIS PIECE OF LAND? ARE YOU GOING TO GO FROM MALABAR? ARE YOU GOING TO GO FROM THE OTHER? SO WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH A FULL DETAILED SITE PLAN FOR THIS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME DOLLARS THAT WE WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THIS IS GOING TO BE REZONED BEFORE WE SPEND ALL THAT MONEY.
BUT WE ARE REQUESTING ACCESS OFF OF BABCOCK STREET.
THERE WILL BE AN ACCESS OFF OF MALABAR AND WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING AN ACCESS OFF OF INTERSTATE COURT.
OKAY. SO THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE ACCESS AND WE WILL BE PROVIDING ALL THAT.
AND IF THERE ARE ANY OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED, WE WILL DO SO.
I MEAN, GC IS RATHER IS RATHER BROAD, YES.
YEAH. SO WE, WE ARE PROPOSING CLOSE TO 200,000 SQUARE FOOT OF FLEX COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE SPACE.
SO LIKE PROBABLY A TILE SHOP AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I HAVE THE CORE DEVELOPER HERE.
I DON'T KNOW, I MEAN MAYBE HE CAN SPEAK TO IN MORE DETAILS OF THE USES IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
BUT NOTHING HAS BEEN FINALIZED YET BASED ON THE USERS, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE WILL DO THAT DURING THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL BECAUSE THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR THE USES AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, US MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS WITH THE CITY CODE.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. YEAH. ABSENT THE CHANGE TO GC.
WILL THE DEVELOPMENT STILL GO AHEAD? IF WE CANNOT PROVE IT, IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO PRODUCE AS MANY SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT WORKS A LOT WITH THE VALUES AND THE COMPS AS WELL.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING A DEVELOPER WOULD WOULD HAVE TO ANSWER.
YEAH. FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ANY ANY OPPOSED.
ANY SEEING NONE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION OR FURTHER COMMENTS.
THIS THIS IS A PERFECT LOCATION FOR MORE INTENSE, YOU KNOW, INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USE.
SO, YOU KNOW, MOTION TO APPROVE Z 23 000 TO.
I'M SORRY, BUT DID THE GENTLEMAN WANT TO SPEAK, OR WERE WE JUST SAVING.
BUT JUST MAYBE HE MIGHT HAVE SOME COMMENT TO ASK.
UM. ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
OKAY, SO THIS IS THE SECOND CASE, AND I THINK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS CP 23 0002, FORMERLY CP FIVE 2023 APPLICANT IS BABCOCK AND MALABAR LLC, REPRESENTED BY
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BOWMAN ADELON CAPITAL AND AND KIMBERLY BREZINKA.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF I-95 AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET.
THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 7.43 ACRES.
FUTURE LAND USE IS RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE AND COMMERCIAL.
THE REQUEST IS THE APPLICANT APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE TO COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY HAS A SPLIT FUTURE LAND USE, WITH THE MAJORITY OF PARTIAL BEING DESIGNATED TO RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE, EXCLUDING THE NORTHERN PORTION WHICH IS COMMERCIAL.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT WOULD ENSURE THE COMPATIBILITY BY PROVIDING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FOR THE ADJACENT LAND AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
CP 23 000 TO MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT AND STAFF RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL.
STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. CAN WE JUST SEE THE MAP? IS THERE A MAP ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PARCEL? YES. OKAY, COOL.
THIS IS THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE SAME.
AND SO THIS WHOLE PARCEL WILL JUST BE USED TO ENHANCE THEIR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
SO WE'LL BRING THE WATER DOWN TOWARDS 95, KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE PRODUCTIVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE WITH THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JENNIFER COCKCROFT AGAIN WITH LACY LYONS, JESZENKA.
AND THANK YOU. DOORS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ANYONE OPPOSED? NONE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR MORE DISCUSSION OR MOTION.
A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
BY MR. BOEREMA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HERE IS UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.
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AC 23 00001.THIS IS UMA GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS THE LAST AND FINAL CASE OF THIS THIS PROJECT.
CPC 23 0001 APPLICANT IS BABCOCK AND MALABAR LLC, REPRESENTED BY BOWMAN ADELAN CAPITAL AND KIMBERLY JARZYNKA, AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF I-95 AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET.
THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY IS AROUND FOUR POINTS, 6.4, FIVE, NINE ACRES.
EXISTING ZONING IS COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE.
EXISTING LAND USE IS COMMERCIAL AND RECREATIONAL AND OPEN SPACE.
THANK YOU. THE APPLICATION APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ZONING AMENDMENT FROM S.C.
COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE TO GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
THE AVALON FLEX DEVELOPMENT IS APPROXIMATELY 11.66, EIGHT EIGHT ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONED COMMERCIAL ZONE LAND PROPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
CPC 23 0001 MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF REZONING REQUEST AND STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTION AND REPRESENTATIVE IS ALSO HERE.
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THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? APPLICANT, PLEASE.THE ENGINEERING GROUP IS HERE, BOMEN AND THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE. THANK FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? BEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
FIRST, I'M ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF COMMERCIAL COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND THEY'RE USING COMMERCIAL, MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF COMMERCIAL, WHICH I THINK IS VERY, VERY WISE IN THIS CASE.
AND I ALSO AM VERY HAPPY WITH THE FACT THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON USING THEIR THEIR LAND, WHICH INSTEAD OF SAYING, WELL, WE WANT STORMWATER TO GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE OR ACTUALLY PLANNING AHEAD OF THE GAME AND SETTING UP THEIR STORMWATER RETENTION, I APPRECIATE THAT, WHICH IS A PLUS.
BUT SINCE THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH OF WHERE THE RETENTION POND IS GOING TO BE, I STILL DIDN'T HEAR WHEN THEY'RE TALKING, IF WE KNEW WHAT THIS BUSINESS WAS GOING TO BE, WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON BRINGING INTO THAT, WHAT IS IT, 20,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE? I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT THE BUSINESS WAS GOING TO BE, IF THEY CAN ANSWER THAT EITHER WAY, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE COMMERCIAL COMING IN.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY'RE PLANNING AHEAD FOR THEIR STORMWATER.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? LIKE TO RESPOND. MY NAME IS JEFF MARTIN.
WE'RE PARTNERS WITH AVALON CAPITAL ON THIS PROJECT.
AND AND THE PROJECT IS FLEXIBLE, MULTI-TENANT, JUST ROUGH CORE AND SHELL.
IT'S EMPTY BUILDINGS AND THE MARKET DRIVES THE USE.
ANY USE THAT WOULD COME IN OBVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH YOUR USE AND ZONE ZONING REGULATIONS.
IT TENDS TO BE SMALLER SERVICE ORIENTED COMPANIES.
THE FRONT OF OUR BUILDINGS HAVE STOREFRONT GLASS.
USUALLY 1000 TO 2000FT² OF OFFICE RESTROOMS, CONFERENCE ROOM.
WE DO SEE CABINET SHOPS FROM TIME TO TIME, AND WE THINK THAT THERE IS A MARKET HERE FOR ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5 TO 15,000 SQUARE FOOT USERS THAT WOULD MAKE 2 TO 4 PER BUILDING AND THERE'S FOUR STANDALONE BUILDINGS.
OKAY. THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
I UNDERSTAND. I MEAN, I'M JUST I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR COMMERCIAL.
YES, IT WILL BE FLEX COMMERCIAL SPACE LIKE JEFF DESCRIBED.
I HAVE SOME SIDE PLANS AND I HAVE SOME RENDERINGS.
THEY'RE ARE NOT FINAL, BUT IF THAT HELPS, YOU KNOW, THE CAUSE OF US GETTING APPROVAL ON THIS, YOU KNOW, I CAN SHARE THEM WITH YOU OR I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF HAS SHARED IT BEFORE AND.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A VERY WELL PLANNED PROJECT.
SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS THAT'S SOMEWHAT MORE OF MY CONCERN WITH THE CORRECT.
YES. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
WE WILL YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, WE WILL WE ARE TRYING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY.
SO IF WE CAN ADD MORE AND ADD MORE USES TO IT AS WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CATER FOR TO JUST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MARKET SAYS OR IS SHOWING.
A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE CPC 23 0001 SECOND.
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A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. WISH YOU GUYS THE BEST OF LUCK.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT CASE.
THIS IS UMA FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
APPLICANT IS SACHSE CAPITAL GROUP REPRESENTED BY MBB ENGINEERING.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN SOUTHWEST CORNER OF JUPITER BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST AND BREVARD.
SOUTHEAST SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 24.69 ACRES.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS RR, RURAL, RESIDENTIAL AND EXISTING LAND USE IS MU MIXED USE.
UH, THE REQUEST IS THE FINAL PLAN.
JUPITER BAY POD PROPOSES TO 36 RESIDENTIAL UNIT AND 30,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL.
THE TOTAL RESIDENTIAL UNIT COMPRISES OF 176 TOWNHOMES AND 60 CONDOS.
THE COMMERCIAL AREA WILL BE COMPRISING OF THREE 10,000FT² COMMERCIAL RETAIL UNITS.
THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THE OPEN SPACE IN POD IS 25%.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED RECREATIONAL AND AMENITY AREA, ACCORDING TO PLAN, IS 10.158 ACRES, WHICH IS AROUND 41%, WHICH INCLUDES SWIMMING POOL, CLUBHOUSE, WALKING TRAILS AND LAKE.
THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL BE CARRIED OUT IN TWO PHASES WITH PHASE ONE OF 176 TOWNHOMES, AND THE SECOND PHASE WILL BE COMPRISING OF RETAIL BUILDING AND 60 CONDOS THE PROJECT IS SUBJECTED TO COMPLETE BY 2027.
RECOMMEND THE CASE 23 0001 IS ALIGNED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE PROJECT MEETING THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR FINAL DEVELOPMENT REQUEST AND STAFF RECOMMEND APPROVAL UPON THE STAFF.
COMMENTS. I. THERE ARE THREE MAJOR COMMENTS PRELIMINARY PLAT PLAN, FULLY ENGINEERING ENGINEERED CONSTRUCTION DRAWING AND SOME TECHNICAL COMMENTS BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THE STAFF IS HERE.
I'M SORRY. YES. SO THE STAFF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? BUT MY ONLY QUESTION IS FOR STAFF IS I BELIEVE SO THIS IS JUST FINAL APPROVAL.
SO THE THIS DENSITY HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY.
PLANNING AND ZONING AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
IS THAT IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? YES, YES, YES, THEY WERE THEY WERE APPROVED THIS TIME LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, JUST TO BE SURE THAT THE DESCRIPTION OF THIS AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T CAUSE ANY TROUBLE FOR US OR THE APPLICANT OR ANYTHING LISTED AS THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF JUPITER BOULEVARD AND BREVARD AVENUE SOUTHEAST.
BUT IN ALL TECHNICAL SENSE, THIS WOULD BE THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SAID INTERSECTION OR REALLY JUST THE WESTERN SIDE OF IT, RIGHT? SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SINCE IT'S JUST A SUMMARY THAT DOESN'T REALLY LIKE MESS ANYTHING UP, RIGHT? I JUST SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
BUT THEN I DO HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION TOO, IF YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT THAT, A FOLLOW UP QUESTION OF EXISTING LAND USE BEING MIXED USE, THEY CONVERTED IT ALREADY TO THAT OR DID IT AUTOMATICALLY CONVERT BECAUSE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES AND SUCH? YEAH, WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD LAST YEAR, ACTUALLY.
PLAUSIBLE FOR A MIXED USE RIGHT NOW.
I WAS JUST LIKE, I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO GET IT TO MIXED USE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE THAT I KNOW HAS BEEN PLANNED SINCE BEFORE THAT KIND OF MOVE INTO MIXED USE WAS SO IT'S THERE. SO GRANTED. OKAY, GOOD.
THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THE QUESTION.
LAST YEAR, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THE.
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PARKING FOR THE SCHOOL, PICK UP THEIR KIDS.WHAT I READ. THERE'S BEEN NO SETTLEMENT ON THAT, YOU KNOW.
THE CITY GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR? GET THAT SIDE TURNING LANE RIGHT.
AND ALSO MR MOYA'S HERE TO THE ENGINEER OF RECORD WHO WILL SPEAK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
QUESTIONS. APPLICANT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE P AND Z.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BEEN FOREVER SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE.
AS THE APPLICANT REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE? THIS THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
WE STILL HAVE COMMITTED TO THE ACTUALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLAN, IT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE THE TURN LANE BEING CONSTRUCTED TO HELP FOR THE BACKING UP OF THE OF THE SCHOOL WHETHER WE WORK UP A PARKING AGREEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WEREN'T ALL THAT CRAZY ABOUT HAVING PARKING OFF ON PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID NOT WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ELONGATING THE RIGHT TURN LANE SO THAT THE STACKING IS IS ADDRESSED.
SO BESIDES THAT, NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED.
NOTHING. ACTUALLY, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
THAT HE. HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
CHAIR. MY CONCERN WASN'T FOR PARKING OF ANY KIND.
TURN LANES? YEP. THE TURN LANES WILL BE BUILT.
OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU SAID PARKING.
WHEN IT COMES TO THIS PROJECT, I NEED YOU TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE TIMING OF THE OF THINGS.
BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE CONTENT IN THE PACKET, MOST NOTABLY THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT BREAKS DOWN TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE THAT IS THIS PROJECT AND JUSTIFIES IT ON PAPER IS DATED IN A RANGE STARTING FROM 2019 AND ENDING IN SOME DOCUMENTS SAYING 2022 BUT MOST BEING GENERATED IN 2021 WITH A PROJECTED COMPLETION DATE OF THE PROJECT IN 2024.
BUT NOW THE PROJECT IS SET TO BE COMPLETED IN 2027.
SO I JUST NEED TO HELP UNDERSTAND AND LINK UP WHERE ALL THAT IS AND HOW LONG TRAFFIC STUDY INFORMATION IS IS MEANT TO BE GOOD FOR, BECAUSE IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM ALREADY EXISTS.
BY 24, THE DOCUMENTATION SAID THAT IT WILL BE OKAY.
SO CAN YOU HELP FRAME THAT UP FOR ME AND HELP ME UNDERSTAND? YEAH. SO OBVIOUSLY AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE STATUS OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN HAPPENING THAT I GUESS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE BY THE END OF LAST YEAR, THERE WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE CITYWIDE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, ALL THAT STUFF.
SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WHEN WE BEFORE WE GET OUR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION APPROVAL, WHICH WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT FRANK WOULD WANT US TO UPDATE BECAUSE HE'S I'M SURE HE'S GOT NEW NUMBERS.
IF HE'S GOT HIS TRAFFIC. I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS HIS TRAFFIC STUDY DONE YET.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IT'S DONE.
I'M SURE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE.
THERE'S NOT A PROJECT WE WERE DOING IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW WHERE WE'RE NOT IMPROVING SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST TRAFFIC.
YOU GOT UTILITIES, YOU GOT YOU GOT SOME OTHER ISSUES.
SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT YOUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WILL MAKE US UPDATE THAT STUDY.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CHANGES, WE WILL ADD THAT.
CURRENTLY, WE ARE PUTTING IN THE EXTENDED RIGHT TURN LANE TO HELP THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SCHOOL.
WE'RE PUTTING IN A EASTBOUND LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE PROJECT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
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DEFICIENCIES AND SOME TIMING ISSUES WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH AS WELL AS ANY PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE AGREEMENTS THAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. OKAY.I APPRECIATE THAT. I DO, BECAUSE SAN FILIPPO AND JUPITER WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST OPPORTUNITIES AS FAR AS A CLEAR PRESENT DAY DEFICIENCY THAT SHOWED UP IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY. AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT COMING IN TO ACTUALLY AND I'M TELLING YOU AND NOBODY ELSE SECRETS THAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN AGAINST THIS PROJECT. BUT ACTUALLY AS TIME HAS GONE ON, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME CONTINUITY AND THIS AREA SEEMS TO BE MULTIFAMILY FRIENDLY.
AND YOUR PROJECT IS STARTING ACTUALLY TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE SENSE TO ME, AND I LIKE THAT.
BUT THAT INTERSECTION BEING SO SHORT FALLING NOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I DO LIKE WHERE YOU'RE AT.
THE ONLY FOLLOW UP QUESTION I'LL HAVE IS WHAT IS THE DELAY NOW TILL 27? DOES THAT MEAN YOU WON'T EVEN START UNTIL MAYBE 24 OR 25? OR IS IT JUST GOING TO TAKE A LONG WHILE TO MOVE THAT EARTH AND STUFF LIKE THAT? WELL, THE RATE OF THINGS ARE MOVING THESE DAYS.
I CAN IMAGINE IF EVEN IF WE GOT THIS APPROVAL AND THEN WENT TO FINAL DESIGN AND PERMITTING THAT WE WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, I'D BE SURPRISED.
UH. YOU KNOW, FROM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING AND I COULD BE WRONG, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CITY DOES THIS, BUT ONCE WE PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY AND WE GET APPROVAL OF A PROJECT, THOSE TRIPS NOW GET ON THE ROAD SO THAT WHEN ANYBODY ELSE DOES A TRAFFIC STUDY, THESE THESE TRIPS SHOW UP SO THEY'RE NOT DISAPPEARING UP, UP.
YEAH. SO THEY'RE GETTING ADDED ON.
SO. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR WALKING THROUGH THAT WITH ME.
I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? MR BATON.
OH. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
ON THE SECOND MAP IS SHOWING THAT THE PROPERTY WAS CURRENTLY RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
AND UNDER THE ZONING AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS ONE HOUSE PER ACRE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S PROBABLY THAT IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO SHOW THAT IT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED YET.
BUT IT IS STILL SHOWING ON THE MAP AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
THE SECOND THE SECOND QUESTION IS THAT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS, BECAUSE JUPITER IS SUCH A BUSY, BUSY ROAD, ESPECIALLY WITH THE SCHOOL AND STUFF, AND WE'VE SEEN THIS ON SOME OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS, WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT DOES START THAT PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES AND THEIR CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES ALSO ALONG THE STREET AND CITY RIGHT OF WAY.
I'M TRYING TO SEE IF JUST IN FOR FUTURE PLANNING JUST SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT HEADACHE IN THIS ALONG WITH THE SCHOOL THAT THE THAT THE VEHICLE, MILES WON'T BE ON THE PROPERTY TO THE EXTENT THAT IT CREATES A DETRIMENT TO IT'S ALREADY THERE.
THAT BEING SAID, WHEN THEY'RE BUILT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GREAT.
ROBERT STICE 1796 WEINBERG DRIVE.
FIRST OF ALL, BIG SHOUT OUT TO YOU OVER THERE.
AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT BECAUSE YOU YOU FORCED ME TO PAY MORE ATTENTION.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, RANDALL.
THIS IS THE OLD JORDAN GOLF COURSE.
SO IF I HAD MY FIGURES, RIGHT, THERE'S 236 HOMES GOING IN THERE.
TIMES 2.9 RESIDENTS IS 684 PEOPLE.
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SO THAT'S 1,368.8 CARS I'M ALL THROUGH.I'M ALL FOR DEVELOPMENT, DONE WISELY AND PROPERLY.
BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO TAKE CONSIDERATION IN THIS CASE.
YOU GOT A SCHOOL THERE, YOU GOT 3368 CARS.
BUT YOU REALLY PRESENTING A LOGJAM THERE.
IS IT IS IT WORKABLE? PERHAPS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I WATCHED SOMETHING ON THE NEWS THE OTHER NIGHT WHERE FIVE OF THE LARGEST FIVE OF THE CITIES ADDED A TOP TEN THAT HAD PEOPLE COMING INTO OR ALL IN FLORIDA.
WHAT'S THAT POPULATION GOING TO BE IN THAT AREA IN 2027? HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT? OKAY. YOU KNOW, YOUR KIDS AND YOUR GRANDKIDS GOING TO THAT SCHOOL.
WHAT'S THAT GOING TO LOOK AT BY BY 2030? I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWN HERE AND YOU KNOW THE DRILL.
YOU SEE IT IF YOU'RE DRIVING OUT THERE AND HOW CRAZY IT GETS AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WORK AND THEY GET ON I 95 INTERCHANGE AND YOU GET OFF AT 5:00 AND YOU'RE WAITING TO GET GET ONTO MALABAR ROAD FROM I 95 AND PEOPLE GOING BY YOU AT 80 ABOUT 18IN AWAY.
WE HAVEN'T RESOLVED THAT ISSUE EITHER SO I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES THERE I'VE HAD IN SUMMERFIELD HOA BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE TRAFFIC WAS DESIGNED, WE'VE HAD FIVE DEATHS OUTSIDE THE GATE IN FIVE YEARS.
YOU DON'T WANT ANY OF THESE KIDS TO TO BE A VICTIM.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? SEEING NONE. UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE CLOSED IS NOW BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
MOTION TO APPROVE PHD 23 0001.
AND BY MR. WEINBERG. SECOND ANYONE.
SECOND. SECOND BY MR. BOEREMA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT CASE. PS 23 00001.
HI, THIS IS OMAR FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
THIS IS THE THIS IS THE CASE FROM THE SIMILAR PROJECT.
PS 23 0001 APPLICANT IS SACHSE CAPITAL GROUP, PRESENTED BY BRUCE MORRIS FROM MV ENGINEERING.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF JUPITER BOULEVARD AND BREVARD AVENUE.
SOUTHEAST SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 24.69 ACRES.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS POD AND EXISTING LAND USE IS A MIXED USE.
THAT THE REQUEST IS FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN APPROVAL FOR MIXED USE SUBDIVISION COMPRISES OF 176 TOWNHOME LOTS AND ONE COMMERCIAL LOT WITH CONDOS TO BE CALLED AS JUPITER BAY POD.
THE TOTAL PLAT COUNT COMPRISES OF 176 TOWNHOME LOT AND ONE COMMERCIAL LOT WITH CONDOS.
THE PROPOSED RECREATIONAL AND AMENITY AREA ACCORDING TO PLAN IS 10.158.
THAT IS 41%, INCLUDING SWIMMING POOL CLUBHOUSES, WALKING TRAIL LAKES, ETCETERA.
FULLY ENGINEERED CONSTRUCTION PLAN DRAWING FOR REVIEW, BOUNDARY AND TITLE OPINION AND THE TECHNICAL COMMENTS GENERATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BY THE STAFF, WHICH IS ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT AND THE STAFF AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? APPLICANT. YES, GOOD EVENING.
BRUCE MOIR AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, WITH MV ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE OWNER.
JUST TWO CORRECTIONS ONCE AGAIN.
JUPITER AND BREVARD. AND WE'RE NOT.
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WE'RE ASKING FOR APPROVAL FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT.NOW, THE PLAN THAT HE JUST APPROVED, THE PLAN THIS IS FOR THE PLAT.
SO THE PLAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THE SURVEYOR.
IT'S SO THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE DID IN THE PLAN CAN BE PLATTED AND SOLD.
SO WE HAVE TO COME HERE FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE'LL JUST ASK FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAT.
THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION THERE, MR. MOYA. AND THE QUEUE UP.
ONE QUESTION TO CONFIRM CLARITY HERE.
YOU'RE TOWNHOMES WILL BE KIND OF.
THEY'LL BE SOLD AS WE'RE MAKING HOME OWNERS HERE.
BUT ARE THESE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO BE RENTED? I DON'T. IF IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED IN THE HOMEOWNERS DOCUMENTS, THEN IT'S NOT PROPOSED TO BE OKAY.
OKAY. BUT AS FAR AS YOU GUYS ARE CONCERNED, YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD THEM.
YOU'RE GOING TO SELL THEM TO THEIR OWNER AND THE REST IS HISTORY.
THANK YOU, SIR. I APPRECIATE IT.
UH, JUST. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I MEAN, IN THE BEGINNING WHEN YOU FIRST PRESENTED THIS.
I DIDN'T LIKE IT. REMEMBER? YOU WEREN'T ALONE. I KNOW, BUT I REMEMBER A LOT OF IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.
YES. SO. SO WE'RE STILL THAT'S THAT'S STILL IN THE.
YES, WE'RE STILL PROPOSING THAT EMERGENCY EGRESS THAT WAS REQUESTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. DOORS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS REQUEST? AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
OR QUESTIONS OR MOTION, PLEASE.
SECOND MR. BOEREMA. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE'VE BEEN REQUESTED TO TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS.
SO WE'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
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THAT'S. THAT'S.TO CONVENE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD CASE.
GOOD EVENING. JESSE ANDERSON, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
BEFORE YOU WE HAVE CASE T 20 3-00003.
THE APPLICANT IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY, SPECIFICALLY THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
IT IS A CITYWIDE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT.
THE TEXTUAL AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU IS TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SECTION 185 .088.
SECTION 185 .046 HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AND SECTION 185 .054 GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO AMEND THE LOCATION REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS FOR SELF STORAGE FACILITIES.
AS I JUST MENTIONED, THE REQUEST IS SPECIFICALLY TO AMEND THOSE SECTIONS OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY, INDUSTRIAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND THE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS SECTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IN THE ZONING CODE FOR OUR ANALYSIS, THE SELF STORAGE FACILITIES CAN CURRENTLY BE DEVELOPED AS PERMITTED USES IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE PLANNED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
THE PROPOSED CHANGES AS TEXTUALLY WRITTEN BELOW WILL ADD SELF STORAGE FACILITIES AS IT PERMITTED USE IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS AND IN THE GENERAL GENERAL DISTRICT GENERAL COMMERCIAL SORRY, IT WILL BE A CONDITIONAL USE WHICH WILL BE SUBJECT TO SECTION 180 5.0 88F SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS AND CONDITIONS.
SEEKING A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
EUROSPORT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION HERE.
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON, SIR, IS I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WILL MAKE SELF STORAGE FACILITIES ABLE TO BE IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS. WILL THAT RESTRICT THEM TO STAY IN THOSE AREAS ONLY OR DOES THIS JUST EXPAND WHERE THEY CAN GO? DOES IT CONTRACT WHERE THEY CAN GO SO IT EXPANDS, WHERE THEY CAN GO IN TERMS OF GOING TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL? THE ONE CONTRACTION THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS CHANGING GENERAL COMMERCIAL FROM A PERMITTED USE TO A CONDITIONAL USE, WHICH IS MORE IN LINE WITH OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT WAS THAT'S IN GENERAL USE GENERAL COMMERCIAL, GENERAL, COMMERCIAL.
IT'S THIS USE, IT'S A PERMITTED USE.
SO THERE'S NO ASKING. IT'S TELLING ESSENTIALLY SITE PLAN LEVEL.
AND THEN WE'VE SEEN SOME STORAGE FACILITIES COME THROUGH.
SO THEY'RE NOT ASKING, CAN I DO IT HERE? THEY'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE THE ONES THAT YOU'VE SEEN SHOULD HAVE ONLY BEEN CONDITIONAL USES BECAUSE AFTER THAT ONLY SITE PLAN LEVEL WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVE AND THEN IT GOES TO BUILDING PERMIT.
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SO YOU WOULD NOT SEE ANYTHING IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL CURRENTLY THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A SELF STORAGE.THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BRING THEM BEFORE YOU.
OKAY. SO WHAT WE PROBABLY SEEN HAS BEEN COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL OR HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL WHERE IT ALREADY IS A CONDITIONAL USE, CORRECT? SO IT KIND OF JUST BRINGS GENERAL COMMERCIAL INTO THAT SAME PROCESS AND WE CAN LOOK AT THEM THAT WILL MAKE ALL SELF STORAGE, THEN ESSENTIALLY CONDITIONAL USE THEN IN COMMERCIAL AREAS, IN COMMERCIAL AREAS, AND THEN LET IT JUST GO INTO THE INDUSTRIAL AREAS AS A PERMITTED USE.
CORRECT? WE'LL BE THE NET RESULT HERE.
OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WALKING THAT THROUGH.
APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I'VE BOUGHT AND BUILT IN PALM BAY SINCE 1980.
I WANT TO COMMEND THE STAFF FOR FINALLY ADDRESSING THIS PARTICULAR THIS PARTICULAR MATTER.
IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO SELF STORAGE IN THE CC CLASSIFICATION, IT'LL HAVE TO BE RECESSED OFF OF THE MAIN ROAD A CERTAIN DISTANCE.
THERE'S A FOUR ACRE TRACK THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO I HAD IT UNDER CONTRACT WITH SOME CLIENTS FOR SELF STORAGE 660FT ON GARVEY.
WE WENT THIS FAR AS A PREAPP MEETING, BUT SHORTLY THEREAFTER WE FOUND OUT THAT RIGHT UP THE STREET ON MINTON ROAD, A FIVE ACRE TRACK, HAD BEEN APPROVED FOR SELF STORAGE.
SO MY CONTRACT CANCELED, THE BUYERS CANCELED, AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS LATER I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, OKAY, WHAT'S REALLY BEST FOR OUR CITY? DO WE REALLY WANT TO USE OUR PRECIOUS COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE FOR SELF STORAGE FOR A FACILITY THAT'S TAKING UP FOUR ACRES AND HIRING TWO PEOPLE AND DOESN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE? SO I FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE WAY THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS HANDLING CC.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A DISAPPOINTMENT THAT RIGHT UP HERE ON THE CORNER IN FRONT OF PINEAPPLE COVE, THAT PROJECT GOT APPROVED, YOU KNOW, BEFORE THIS IS HAPPENING BECAUSE THAT'S 600 FOOT OF FRONTAGE THAT COULD HAVE TRANSLATED INTO 30 OR 40,000FT² BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WITH DIFFERENT TENANTS, RESTAURANTS, OFFICE, ETCETERA.
BUT AT LEAST WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW.
AND LIKE I SAID, I REALLY WANT TO COMMEND THE STAFF FOR FOR ADDRESSING THIS.
AND I OUR OUR CITY NEEDS TO PRESERVE MAJOR FRONTAGE ON BABCOCK MALABAR ROAD, PALM BAY ROAD AND MINTON, YOU KNOW, FOR REAL WHAT I CONSIDER REAL COMMERCIAL RESTAURANTS, OFFICES, RETAIL, ETCETERA.
THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO COMMENT? SEEING NONE. LAW IS NOW CLOSED AND BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD OR DO I HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE T 23 0003.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
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STEPHEN WHITE, PRINCIPAL PLANNER FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.THIS TEXTUAL AMENDMENT IS TO AMEND THE SECTION OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 170 CONSTRUCTION CODES AND REGULATIONS BUILDING CODES SECTION 170 .005 ADOPTED AND ITS AMEND THE ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS REFERENCING THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE BUILDING AS OUTLINED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
T 20 3-0001 MEETS THE MINIMUM CRITERIA FOR A TEXTUAL AMENDMENT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THE PROPOSED TEXTUAL AMENDMENT FOR APPROVAL AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE MR. PEARSON, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, HERE, FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
THIS BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE, CAN YOU GIVE ME A PRACTICAL EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS KIND OF CONFLICT EXISTS AND WHAT KIND OF FRICTION THAT CAUSES IN NATURAL HAPPENINGS AND PROCESSES AND THINGS OF THE SORT? SURE. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
JOHN PIERSON, ACTING BUILDING OFFICIAL.
AND FIRST, I SHOULD APOLOGIZE.
ALL THOSE ZEROS YOU SEE IN THE NUMBERS FOR MS. THAT'S A BUILDING A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE 15 TO 20,000 PERMITS A YEAR.
SO THEY HAD TO USE FIVE DIGITS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT OF ZEROS BECAUSE OF US.
SO THE BUILDING CODE, THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT VOLUMES WITH THE BUILDING CODE.
THE BUILDING CODE SLASH OR COMMA BUILDING IS THE PRIMARY VOLUME.
WHEN THAT VOLUME IS PUBLISHED, THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE AND ENFORCEMENT ARTICLES THAT ARE STIPULATED THROUGHOUT THE CODE, BUT TYPICALLY THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE LEFT BLANK OR RESERVED IN THAT CODE BECAUSE EACH MUNICIPALITY WILL THEN DECIDE TO AMEND IT HOWEVER THEY SEE FIT.
HOWEVER, ALL THE OTHER VOLUMES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO THAT DON'T HAVE A CHAPTER ONE, THEY ALL HAVE A STATUTE OR A CODE IN THEM THAT POINTS YOU BACK TO THE BUILDING VOLUME AND SAYS THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT FOR ENFORCEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION OF THE CODE.
SO IN OUR TEXTUAL AMENDMENT, WE HAD EACH OF THOSE BEING REMOVED AND IN SOME CASES THAT WAS FINE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ASK THAT THE STRIKETHROUGH FOR EACH OF THE EXCLUSIVITY OF CHAPTER ONE BE REMOVED FOR ALL OF THE VOLUMES EXCEPT FOR THE PRIMARY VOLUME, THE BUILDING VOLUME.
AND THEN ONCE THOSE ARE ACCEPTED BACK AGAIN, WE SIMPLY CAN TELL ANY APPLICANT THAT LET'S SAY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PLUMBING CODE, IT SAYS REFER BACK TO BUILDING FOR ADMINISTRATIVE AND ENFORCEMENT.
SO THAT'S THE GOAL BEHIND ALL OF THIS.
A RESTATEMENT SLASH QUESTION TO ENSURE CLARIFICATION.
NOW OUR INSTRUCTION IN OUR PALM BAY PUBLISHED MATERIALS WILL SAY REFER TO PALM BAY PUBLISHED MATERIALS FOR FURTHER DETAIL AND WE'LL HAVE THEM BECAUSE EVERYBODY SHOULD BE REFERRING TO FLORIDA CODE ANYWAY.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.
THE EACH OF THE ADOPTED BUILDING CODES WILL BE LISTED THERE.
THE OTHER VOLUMES ALSO SAY EXCLUSIVE OF CHAPTER ONE AND THEN ACCEPT THAT SAME EXHIBIT A SO WE'RE REMOVING THE EXCLUSIVE AND CHAPTER OR EXHIBIT A FROM THE REST OF THEM SO THAT WE CAN THEN LOOK IN THOSE VOLUMES AND SAY, TAKE YOU BACK TO THE BUILDING
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VOLUME. THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO BE LOOKING.IT'S STILL ALL FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
IT'S REALLY MORE ABOUT CLARITY OF THE CODE IN CASE WE BECAUSE WE OCCASIONALLY WILL GET A QUESTION FROM A CONTRACTOR LIKE WHY ARE YOU ENFORCING IT THIS WAY? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK ONLINE, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT.
BUT THERE'S A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN SEARCH FOR OUR AMENDED CHAPTER ONE, WHICH WE HAVE UPLOADED THERE.
AND SO THIS CLARIFIES WHERE WE GO TO FOR EACH OF THE CASES.
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CONSISTENCY. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR FOCUS IS ON? SO THERE'S TWO PARTS OF IT.
THERE ARE SOME APPENDICES THAT WE CAN CHOOSE TO ACCEPT HERE AS PART OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE AND OUR CURRENT VERSION OF THE EXHIBIT A, IT STATES WHAT THOSE TWO APPENDICES ARE.
HOWEVER, IT IN THE LANGUAGE IN THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN WRITTEN.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY BOTH COME FROM THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE BUILDING VOLUME.
HOWEVER ONE APPENDICES FROM THE BUILDING VOLUME AND ONE APPENDICES FROM THE RESIDENTIAL VOLUME.
SO IT'S SIMPLY A LANGUAGE CHANGE TO CLARIFY WHERE THESE APPENDICES ARE LOCATED.
AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF THINGS WE'RE CHANGING.
SEEING NONE. THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS REQUEST? MADAM CHAIR, MAY I ASK HIM JUST ONE QUESTION? SO WHEN YOU MAKE THIS CHANGE, THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CHANGE ACROSS THE BOARD.
I MEAN, I CAN SEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE RUNAROUND.
SO SO THE CHANGE IS GOING TO BE THE CHANGE ACROSS THE BOARD BECAUSE LIKE YOU LIKE YOU JUST SAID, LIKE THERE'S A CODE FOR ELECTRICAL, THERE'S A CODE FOR PLUMBING, THERE'S A CODE FOR FOR YOU NAME IT.
THERE SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A CODE FOR IT.
IT DOESN'T ELIMINATE THE CODE AT ALL.
IT JUST ELIMINATES THE CHAPTER ONE IN EACH OF THOSE CODES SAYING BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCE NOW STATES THAT WE WERE NOT ACCEPTING CHAPTER ONE OF THE CODE, BUT WE WERE ACCEPTING EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT EVERYTHING AFTER CHAPTER ONE IS ALL THERE AND IT ALL IS STAYING THE SAME.
WE HAVEN'T AMENDED ANY OF THAT.
OR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
BOARD DO I HAVE A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE 23 0001.
IT'S JUST MAKES SENSE. IT JUST CLARIFIES OUR ORDINANCES.
ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
OR DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO PRESENT THE ITEM AND TELL YOU THAT IT WAS PREVIOUSLY FILLED BY KAMARAJ, WHO IS NO LONGER ON THE BOARD.
AND THIS POSITION GOES THROUGH FEBRUARY OF 2025.
SO SO WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TONIGHT.
ALL RIGHT WHEN HE BROUGHT. VOLUNTEERS.
CAN YOU SAY WHAT THE COMMITMENT IS? ABSOLUTELY. SO THIS IS THE CD, A B BOARD AND SERVES AS A CITIZEN INPUT MECHANISM FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY TO THE CITY FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTERED PROGRAMS FUNDED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP AND STATE
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HOUSING INITIATIVES.THEY MEET IN JANUARY, APRIL, JULY, OCTOBER OR AS NEEDED.
AND LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT APPOINTMENT WILL RUN UNTIL 2025, THE END OF FEBRUARY OF 2025.
JUST TO CLARIFY, YOU FIRST SAID THEY MEANT ORDERLY AND THEN YOU SAID THE THIRD WEDNESDAY.
THEY MEET THE THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH AT 6 P.M.
THAT'S CORRECT. SO JANUARY, APRIL, OCTOBER AND AS NEEDED.
AND THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THOSE MONTHS.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ELECT MR WARNER TO THIS POSITION.
MR WARNER WOULD ACCEPT THE MR WARNER SIT ON THIS BOARD AND.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE ONLY FAIR THAT SOMEONE ELSE.
MR WARNER SAID THAT BEFORE I SECONDED IT.
SO THAT MOTION IS DEAD. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO LIKE MR GOOD TO THIS POSITION.
HE'S INTERESTED. GOT A MOTION.
I MOVE TO NOMINATE MR. GOOD. IT'S AN ELECTION.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT THE ONE WITH COLD FEET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'M CAPPED OUT.
I ACTUALLY WAS CAPPED OUT AT TWO AND FOUGHT TO GET THE THING CHANGED TO THREE AND NOW I'M ON THREE.
SO I JUST PHYSICALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SERVE.
SO LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT OVER HERE JUST POINTING FINGERS.
IT'S DIFFERENT. I THINK YOU ENJOY IT.
THANK YOU, MR. GOODE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
ANY. ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. MEETING'S ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.