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ATTENTION TO DETAIL.I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
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2023, DASH TEN TO ORDER.WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? I INVITE ALL THOSE WHO WISH TO BOW THEIR HEADS IN PRAYER WITH ME.
WE GIVE THANKS FOR THE DIFFERENCES WE HAVE WHICH CAUSE ALL OF US TO BETTER ARTICULATE THE MATTERS UNDER DEBATE, TO UNDERSTAND THE WAYS IN WHICH OUR DECISIONS AFFECT OTHERS. HELP ALL GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING.
I PRAY THAT IN SHARING A COMMON LIFE TOGETHER IN PALM BAY THAT WE HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON THAN WE HAVE DIFFERENCES AND RESPONSIBILITY TO CARE FOR ONE ANOTHER AND NOT JUST OURSELVES. I ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE TO THOSE IN AUTHORITY HERE TONIGHT WISDOM TO REFLECT UPON SHARED IDEALS AND COMMON ENDS OF THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY WHILE THEY ENGAGE IN THEIR WORK THIS EVENING.
STRENGTH OF CHARACTER, TO COMMIT TO DOING GOOD EVEN IF IT IS NOT POPULAR, AND A GRACIOUS SPIRIT THAT FINDS SUCCESS NOT IN ACHIEVING A POSITION OR AGENDA, BUT IN THE SERVICE GIVEN TO OTHERS THROUGH THEIR EFFORTS.
I PRAY FOR ALL ITEMS ON THE AGENDA SET BEFORE EVERYONE HERE THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR COOPERATION AND THAT DECISIONS MADE WOULD BE A BLESSING FOR ALL THOSE WHO RESIDE IN THIS CITY.
IT IS IN YOUR MOST HOLY AND BLESSED NAME, I PRAY.
AMEN. AMEN. PLACES TO FLY THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION.THREE TERMS EXPIRED ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.
REPRESENT REAL ESTATE, ESSENTIAL SERVICE PERSONNEL AND EMPLOYER WITH CITY POSITION.
MADAM SHERMAN AGENDA REVISIONS.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. THERE'S QUITE A LIST TONIGHT, SO IF YOU ALL WILL BEAR WITH ME.UNDER PRESENTATIONS, AN UPDATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND EXHIBITS HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AS ATTACHMENTS TO ITEM SEVEN UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS RELATING TO A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT KNOWN AS GARDENS AT WATERSTONE, PHASES TWO AND THREE.
THE APPLICANT FOR ITEMS 12 AND 13 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS HAS REQUESTED THAT CASES PS 20 3-00001 AND FD 20 3-0001 BE CONTINUED TO THE FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY 2023 FOR ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS.
OKAY, COUNCIL. I NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ANY OPPOSED.
PASSES UNANIMOUSLY OR PASSES FOUR ZERO.
CARRY ON, MA'AM. MARY, DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE FOR ANY WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE? WELL, I WAS GOING TO DO THAT AFTERWARDS, BUT CARRY ON.
IF ANYONE'S HERE FOR ITEMS 12 AND 13, PLEASE UNDERSTAND.
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WE'LL BE HERE. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT ITEM MAY.MAY 1ST. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR MAY 1ST.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE'RE MEETING THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH OF MAY.
CARRY ON, MA'AM. MAYOR, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S ACTUALLY MONDAY, AS YOU WERE.
OKAY. NEXT ONE IS ITEM NUMBER 12.
SO LET ME SAY THAT FIRST, SIR. I'M SORRY.
SO STAFF IS REQUESTING TO HAVE ITEM ONE UNDER PROCUREMENTS CONSIDERED PRIOR TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SO MOVED. SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY COUNCILOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
NEXT, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE PROCESS OF FILLING A VACANCIES RELATING TO CITY COUNCIL.
SEAT FIVE HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS AT THE REQUEST OF MAYOR MEDINA.
MAYOR MEDINA IS REQUESTING TO HAVE ITEM ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS CONSIDERED PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO ACTUALLY, GENTLEMEN, I WAS HOPING TO HAVE IT BEFORE PRESENTATIONS.
OKAY, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
PRIOR. RIGHT AFTER YOU SAID PRESENTATION? YEAH, RIGHT BEFORE PRESENTATION.
RIGHT BEFORE PRESENTATIONS? YES, SIR. SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ANY NAYS.
CARRY ON, MA'AM. THANK YOU, SIR.
DISABILITY HAS ALSO BEEN PROVIDED FOR ITEM ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
NOW, THE ITEM THAT YOU JUST MOVED UP.
MISS SMITH ANY AGENDA REVISIONS.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
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AND. AND SO I WAS GOING TO PRESENT THE FLAG TO RUBÉN SAL TERESE RUIZ, AND HE IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.SO LANI KOYAMA, WHO IS A UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS VETERAN AND IS PART OF.
CORRECT. AND I'LL LET YOU DISCUSS THAT ACRONYM.
SO IT'S NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WHEREAS AMERICA'S STRONGEST ECONOMIC GROWTH IS ALMOST 40 YEARS HAS BEEN DRIVEN BY THE RESILIENCE OF OUR SMALL BUSINESS, THAT, DESPITE A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC, CONTINUE TO PIONEER AND INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO OUR COUNTRY'S GREATEST CHALLENGES AND CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES AND WORKERS.
AND. WHEREAS, SMALL BUSINESSES REMAIN THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR COMMUNITIES AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, EMPLOYING MORE THAN HALF OF OUR NATION'S WORKERS, INVENTING AND INNOVATING TO LAUNCH NEW TECHNOLOGIES, CREATE NEW AMERICAN LED INDUSTRIES, ENRICHING OUR MAIN STREAMS, OUR MAIN STREETS, MAKING PARTS AND PRODUCTS IN AMERICA TO FUEL OUR SUPPLY CHAINS AND BUILDING OUR NATION'S INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND. WHEREAS, BY RENEWING OUR COMMITMENT TO SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES, WE CAN MAINTAIN OUR GLOBAL COMPETITIVENESS AND BUILD A STRONGER NATION WHERE EVERYONE CAN SUCCEED FROM THE BOTTOM UP AND MIDDLE OUT.
AND. WHEREAS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS PROCLAIMED NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK EVERY YEAR SINCE 1963 TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES AVAILABLE TO OUR ENTREPRENEURS THROUGH THE US SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
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WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS AND JOINS THE NATIONAL EFFORT TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF SMALL BUSINESSES TO THE AMERICAN ECONOMY AND THEIR IMPORTANCE TO ENSURING THAT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES REMAIN AS A VIBRANT TOMORROW AS THEY ARE TODAY.NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY, HAS SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 30TH THROUGH MAY 6TH AS NATIONAL SMALL BUSINESS WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND CALL UPON ALL OUR RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES, LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND KEY ROLE THEY PLAY IN KEEPING OUR ECONOMY STRONG AND WITNESS HEREOF.
THANK YOU, FOLKS. I'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF.
I WORK FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
WE'RE A FEDERAL AGENCY, AND OUR ROLE IS TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES.
HOW MANY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE ROOM? SHOW OF HANDS. OKAY.
QUITE A FEW. SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE SOME BUSINESS CARDS UP HERE ON THIS DESK.
WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT OFFER FREE BUSINESS CONSULTING.
THERE ARE PROFESSIONAL PAID PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS WHO CAN HELP YOU.
AND THE GOOD NEWS IS YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THEM.
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF SBA LOANS.
IN THE CASE OF WE HAVE A LOAN GUARANTEE PROGRAM.
WE'VE DONE ON AVERAGE ABOUT $2 BILLION IN SBA GUARANTEED LOANS JUST IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THE PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM AND ECONOMIC INJURY DISASTER LOANS.
IN THOSE CASES, WE DID CLOSE TO $20 BILLION IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
SO I THINK WE JUST DID A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THE WORD OUT TO EVERYONE.
AND I THINK A LOT OF BUSINESSES WERE SAVED BY THOSE PROGRAMS ANYWAY.
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME.
MY CARDS ARE GOING TO BE ON THE DESK RIGHT HERE.
THANK YOU, CITY OF PALM BAY, FOR SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WE DID THIS, THE MAYOR AND I SANG THE MARINE CORPS HYMN FOR.
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SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BEGIN MY COMMENTS.I PLACED THIS ON THE AGENDA, SO I WILL I WILL LEAD WITH MY COMMENTS.
AND I WOULD I WOULD ENTERTAIN YOUR RESPECT AS I'VE ALWAYS HAD RESPECT FOR EVERYONE THAT SPEAKS.
I WANT TO SHARE MY HEART FIRST AND FOREMOST.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, MY NAME IS ROB MEDINA.
I AM A MAN OF THE MOST HIGH GOD.
I'M AN ORDAINED MINISTER AND I SERVE HIM AND I JUST HAPPEN TO BE MAYOR OF THIS CITY.
WHAT DOES HIS LORDSHIP MEAN TO ME? I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PUTTING MYSELF AND MY FEELINGS BEFORE I SERVE HIM.
BEING. HAVING HIM AS MY LORD MEANS THAT I LISTEN TO WHATEVER HE SAYS.
IT ACTUALLY MEANS THAT WHATEVER HE TELLS ME TO DO, I DO.
I MAY FIGHT IT, BUT HE IS MY LORD AND I AM SUBJECT TO HIM.
AND IN MY TRANSPARENCY, I'M GOING TO LAY IT ALL OUT IN GALATIANS FIVE.
WALK AND LIVE HABITUALLY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT, RESPONSIBLE TO AND CONTROLLED AND GUIDED BY THE
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SPIRIT. THEN YOU WILL CERTAINLY NOT GRATIFY THE CRAVINGS AND DESIRES OF THE FLESH OF MY HUMAN NATURE.THE GODLESS HUMAN MATTER OF MYSELF.
ARE OPPOSED AND THEY ARE ANTAGONISTIC TO EACH OTHER, MEANING TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.
CONTINUALLY WITHSTANDING AND IN CONFLICT WITH EACH OTHER THAT I AM NOT THEY ARE NOT FREE, BUT PREVENTED ME FROM DOING WHAT I DESIRE TO DO.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF I YIELD TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.
I DO WHAT THE LORD IS GUIDING ME TO DO, AND THAT IS WHO SERVES AS YOUR MAYOR.
THERE'S NO QUESTION MY INTENTIONS.
AND JUST TO PLACE THIS IN A PRACTICAL APPLICATION, MY INTENTIONS WERE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL THE APPLICANTS ON MAY 31ST, AND YET THERE WAS NO PEACE.
I CONSULTED THE CITY ATTORNEY.
MADAM, I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR MAKING TIME ON THAT FRIDAY.
YOU WERE GOING TO SIT THERE WITH ME AND INTERVIEW APPLICANTS WITH MYSELF.
YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE OFF YOUR FRIDAY AND SIT WITH ME AS I DID THIS.
HOWEVER, THERE WAS NO PEACE IN THAT.
AND THAT'S HOW THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKS TO ME.
I ASKED FOR THOSE APPLICANTS THAT HAD SET UP MEETINGS THAT THOSE MEETINGS BE CANCELED.
AND I EXPLAINED THAT SUCH TODAY, I BELIEVE THE MEETING AND THE REASON THAT THAT WAS THERE WAS NO PEACE. I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT A DOUBT I FEEL.
THERE WAS NO PEACE BECAUSE THERE WAS A CRITICAL PIECE OF THAT PROCESS THAT WAS IN PART OF IT.
I SHOULD NOT THINK OF NOT INCLUDING YOU IN THIS PROCESS.
AND SO AT OUR LAST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE.
YOU KNOW, I TOOK THAT TO MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO RUSH THIS PROCESS.
THAT THIS PROCESS, ALTHOUGH IT IS UNPRECEDENTED IN OUR CITY'S HISTORY, WE HAVE TO RUSH THIS THROUGH BECAUSE OF A CERTAIN TIME FRAME. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT DIDN'T SIT WELL WITH ME.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WENT INTO THE SCRIPTURES.
THERE WAS SUCH AN UNSETTLING FEELING ABOUT THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
AND I'M BEING TRANSPARENT WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
AND I'M A MAN THAT PRAYS AND I'M A MAN THAT LISTENS TO HIS WORD.
AS I PRAYED AND I READ HIS SCRIPTURES READ THIS, HE GUIDED ME TO PROVERBS THREE FIVE THROUGH SIX.
TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART.
DO NOT DEPEND ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING.
SEEK HIS WILL IN ALL YOU DO AND HE WILL SHOW YOU THE PATH TO TAKE.
NEEDLESS TO SAY, I WAS VERY EMOTIONAL DURING THAT PROCESS.
THE MORE I ENCOUNTER HIM, THE MORE I AM.
SO BLESSED TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP.
HE SENT ME TO PROVERBS 418 AND HE SAID THIS THE WAY OF THE RIGHTEOUS IS LIKE A GLEAM OF DAWN, WHICH SHINES EVEN BRIGHTER. THE FULL LIGHT OF DAY.
OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS IS SACRED TO ME.
OUR REPUBLIC'S FOUNDATION IS THAT ELECTORAL PROCESS.
THERE WAS BLOOD THAT WAS SHED.
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LIVES. THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT EVEN TODAY, FOR WE ARE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.MY LEFT HAND ON THE BIBLE IN THE PRESENCE OF MY PASTORS.
I TOOK AN OATH TO ABIDE BY THE CHARTER, THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS UNITED STATES AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY. FOR ME, THERE IS NO SEPARATION.
IN MY OPINION, I TRULY BELIEVE.
THAT THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN SUCH A SHORT SPAN IS FLAWED.
NOW, LET ME SHARE WITH YOU WHY I BELIEVE IT IS FLAWED.
I SAT AT MY DESK AND I RANKED THE APPLICATIONS.
I TOOK THE TIME AND READ AS I RANKED EACH AND EVERY APPLICANT.
I NOTICED EACH APPLICATION WAS DATE STAMPED AND THOSE DATE STAMPS.
AT A TIME THAT CONFIRMED THAT THESE APPLICANTS TURNED IN THEIR APPLICATION.
I ALSO NOTICED SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
EACH APPLICANT SIGNED THE APPLICATION.
I RANK THEM ACCORDING TO HOW I WAS LED.
WHEN WE CHOOSE SOMEONE TO SIT ON THIS DAIS.
WE ARE VOTING FOR OUR CONSTITUENCY.
WE ARE VOTING FOR THE PALM BAY RESIDENT AND IN VOTING FOR THE PALM BAY RESIDENT.
WE CANNOT AFFORD NOT TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
I RANKED THEM AND I LEFT THAT RANKING ON TOP OF MY DESK.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THEY STAMPED IT, HAVE A DUE DATE.
FURTHERMORE. I DIDN'T SIGN IT.
CERTAINLY WE SHOULD HAVE THAT SIGNED AND IT SHOULD BE WITNESSED.
I SIGN A DOCUMENT AND IT IS WITNESSED.
IF I VOTE ABSENTEE, I SIGN THAT DOCUMENT.
I WILL SHARE HOW DURING THIS PROCESS I WENT THAT EVENING WHEN I WAS TOLD THERE WAS NO TIME.
I KEPT DECLARING, WHERE AM I TO GO? AND LET ME SHARE WITH YOU.
THIS WAS NOT AN EASY TASK FOR ME AS A MAN OF THE MOST HIGH GOD.
THIS IS WHAT THE LORD SAYS IS WHAT HE TELLS ME.
LET HIM STEP FORWARD AND PROVE TO YOU HE IS POWER.
LET HIM DO AS I'VE DONE SINCE ANCIENT TIMES WHEN I ESTABLISH THE PEOPLE AND EXPLAINED ITS FUTURE.
DID I NOT PROCLAIM MY PURPOSE FOR YOU LONG AGO? YOU ARE MY WITNESS.
AS FOR THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THE LORD DIRECTED ME NOT TO COME.
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WHETHER THERE WOULD BE FOUR OF US ON THIS DAIS OR EVEN ONE.I WAS NOT GOING TO ATTEND BECAUSE I YIELD TO THE MAN THAT'S UPSTAIRS.
I YIELD TO THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD.
IT DIDN'T MATTER WHAT HAPPENED.
AND I CALLED IN AND I LET THE CITY MANAGER KNOW I HAD NO PEACE.
YOU SEE, THAT'S HOW GOD SPEAKS TO ME.
AND YET AGAIN ON MONDAY, EVERY TIME I CONSIDERED COMING THROUGH THIS DOOR, THERE WAS NO PEACE.
I STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY.
I WANT TO SHARE BECAUSE I ALWAYS LOOK FOR COMMON GROUND.
I'M GOING TO SHARE COMMENTS BY AN INDIVIDUAL.
THAT'S A UNITED STATES SENATOR.
BUT IN SEEKING THAT COMMON GROUND, I WILL SHARE HIS COMMENTS AND THEY ARE AS FOLLOWS.
IN HIS OPENING ADDRESS TO CONGRESS IN JANUARY 2021, SENATOR RAPHAEL WARNOCK FROM GEORGIA SAID, WE BELIEVE DEMOCRACY IS THE POLITICAL ENACTMENT OF A SPIRITUAL IDEA, THAT WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF GOD AND THEREFORE WE ARE ALL TO HAVE A VOICE IN THE DIRECTION OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR DESTINY WITHIN IT.
DEMOCRACY HONORS THE SACRED WORTH OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS.
THE NOTION THAT WE ALL HAVE WITHIN US A SPARK OF THE DIVINE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SHAPING OF OUR OWN DESTINY. THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS A SACRED RIGHT.
THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS ALSO A FOUNDATIONAL IS ALSO FOUNDATIONAL TO AND THE HALLMARK OF A FUNCTIONING DEMOCRACY. AND AS PEOPLE OF FAITH, WE BELIEVE THAT VOTING IS NOT ONLY A CIVIL RIGHT, IT IS A COVENANT WE HAVE WITH ONE ANOTHER AND THE MORAL RESPONSIBILITY.
THEREFORE, A TRULY PLURALISTIC DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THAT EVERY PERSON, EVERY CITIZEN, HAS THE RIGHT TO VOTE AND THE RIGHT TO BE PROTECTED UNDER THE LAW.
AND WHEN THAT RIGHT IS DENIED, WHEN THAT RIGHT IS ABRIDGED IN MY IN ANY WAY FOR ARBITRARILY REASONS, IT IS A MORAL FAILURE THAT PEOPLE OF FAITH, PEOPLE OF GOODWILL ARE OBLIGED TO CONFRONT.
VOTING AND POLITICAL PARTICIPATION IN OUR DEMOCRACY IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS WE CAN HONOR EVERY PERSON'S HUMAN DIGNITY, ENABLE OUR VISION OF JUSTICE, AND CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY TO THE COMMON GOOD AS MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
HE GOES ON TO STATE, OUR CHURCH HAS A LONG HISTORY OF SPEAKING OUT OR SPEAKING OUT ABOUT OUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO BE INVOLVED IN POLITICS. IN THEIR 2004 DOCUMENT, CATHOLICS IN POLITICAL LIFE, THE USCCB SAID CATHOLICS WHO BRING THEIR MORAL CONVICTIONS INTO PUBLIC LIFE DO NOT THREATEN DEMOCRACY OR PLURALISM.
BUT ENRICH THEM AND THE NATION.
THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DOES NOT REQUIRE THE DIVISION BETWEEN BELIEF AND PUBLIC ACTION.
BUT THREE MORAL PRINCIPLES AND POLITICAL CHOICES, BUT PROTECTS THE RIGHT OF BELIEVERS.
PRACTICING THEIR FAITH AND ACT ON THEIR VALUES IN PUBLIC LIFE.
GENTLEMEN, I SHARE WITH YOU HOW I HAVE ENDURED AND SEEK HIS WISDOM IN EVERYTHING I DO.
I HAVE SHARED WITH HIM ON MANY OCCASIONS WHEN THIS BODY HAS COME TO A VOTE.
WHEN WHEN IT WAS THE TIME THAT WE SHORTENED OUR MEETINGS.
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MY SPIRIT WAS UNEASY.WHEN IT CAME TIME TO CHANGING THE TIME OF THE MEETINGS.
MY SPIRIT WAS UNEASY WHEN IT CAME TIME WHEN 70% OF THE PEOPLE AND I SHARE THIS SAID NO TO RAISES AND I SAID NO TO THE STIPEND I SHARED WITH YOU.
BUT WHEN IT CAME TO THIS, THE SPIRIT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY UNEASY.
AND I YIELD TO GOD IN EVERYTHING I DO.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT CALLED ME A COWARD, I CONDEMNED THOSE WORDS.
MATTER OF FACT, I CAST THEM DOWN TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL WHERE THEY BELONG.
GOD. I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT ME.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT CALLED ME A COWARD, I CONDEMN THOSE WORDS.
I BIND THEM AND I CAST THEM TO THE DEPTHS OF HELL.
I AM A MIGHTY MAN OF VALOR, AND I WILL SERVE THIS.
COUNTRY, THIS CITY WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING.
SERVING GOD, HONOR AND INTEGRITY.
CHOOSE THE WORD OF MAN BEFORE I CHOOSE THE WORD OF GOD.
AN EMAIL THAT OUR CITY MANAGER SENT.
REGARDING THE SPECIAL, THE SPECIAL MEETING.
AND IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT, IT SAYS, AND I DIDN'T WRITE THIS DOWN, BUT THERE'S AN EMAIL, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU JUST SHARE THE LAST COMMENT WHEN YOU SENT THE EMAIL BEFORE YOU SIGNED IT? IT READ ABOUT, UM.
WHAT? I HAD WRITTEN IT DOWN, MA'AM.
EMAILS. SO THE LAST ON THE 17TH, I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE SAID IT.
THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN SOME COMMENTS REGARDING WHEN A SPECIAL ELECTION.
WOULD OCCUR IF NO ONE IS APPOINTED PURSUANT TO 3-06 TO ALL VACANCY ELECTIONS.
MUST RUN CONCURRENTLY WITH REGULARLY SCHEDULED CITY ELECTIONS.
CONSEQUENTLY, IF COUNCIL DOES NOT APPOINT, THE SEAT WILL REMAIN VACANT UNTIL A VOTE IS HELD IN 2024, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED ELECTION.
DID YOU THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE A SPECIAL ELECTION? THE CLEAR STATEMENT WAS THE SPECIAL ELECTION.
DID YOU BELIEVE THAT? DID YOU BELIEVE THAT? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON THAT IT WOULD.
THAT WOULD NOT BE A SPECIAL ELECTION? WELL, TECHNICALLY, IT STILL IS A SPECIAL ELECTION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T FALL ON 2026.
SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.
SO DID YOU BELIEVE IT AS TO IT WOULDN'T THERE WOULDN'T BE A SPECIAL ELECTION.
THERE WOULD STILL BE A SPECIAL ELECTION RIGHT AFTER THE 60 DAYS IF WE DIDN'T MEET IT.
SO BEING PRIOR TO THAT, IT'S A SPECIAL ELECTION.
WELL, THEN YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE THAT FELT THAT WAY.
BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU I DIDN'T I DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
AND I THINK DEPUTY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAY EITHER.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING ON MAY 1ST.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF ANYTHING, THIS SHED LIGHT ON THE PROCESS.
THIS DEFINITELY SHED LIGHT ON ON EVERYTHING.
AND I THANK GOD FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS.
I WILL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS WITH THIS.
SERVE THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH GOD, HONOR AND INTEGRITY.
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MR. ALAN MILES.I'M DR. ALAN MILES, 350 GARVEY ROAD, SOUTHWEST.
GOT A LITTLE DIFFERENT SPIN ON EVERYTHING.
SO WHAT ARE THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THE MAYOR ELIMINATES THE INTERVIEW PROCESS 24 HOURS BEFORE IT'S SUPPOSED TO OCCUR? IS HE SAYING ONE THING AND DOING ANOTHER FOR DECEPTIVE PURPOSES? UNDER ORDINANCE 2023 DASH TEN, SECTION 50.55, WHICH WAS RECENTLY AMENDED, THERE IS NO MAJORITY RULE AS IN THE PAST. INSTEAD, IT APPEARS TO BE AN AGGREGATE OF SCORES COMPILED WHICH HAVE ALREADY BEEN MANIPULATED AND SKEWED BY THIS FLAWED PROCESS.
HE POISONED THE WELL AND RATED HER 31ST JUST BELOW HIS RIVAL PAST, MAYOR CAPOTE.
THE MAYOR CAN CAST A SPOILED VOTE, MEANING IF THREE MEMBERS VOTE KAY AS NUMBER ONE AND MAYOR MEDINA VOTES HER NUMBER FIVE, HER TOTAL WOULD BE EIGHT.
IF THEY ALL CHOSE THE NUMBER TWO CANDIDATE AND THE MAYOR VOTES THAT CANDIDATE NUMBER ONE, THE TOTAL IS SEVEN AND THE MAYOR WINS, ALL OTHER SCENARIOS RESULT IN A TIE, OR POSSIBLY THE THIRD CHOICE, THE THIRD CHOICE CANDIDATE BEING EVALUATED, NOT THE ONE WHO GOT THE NUMBER ONE VOTES, WHICH WOULD BE A MAJORITY.
THE MAYOR STATED HE WANTED TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT, AND I, AS A RETIRED EYE DOCTOR, CAN GIVE YOU THE GAUSSIAN EQUATION FOR TRANSPARENCY, AND THIS IS NOT IT. THIS POINT SYSTEM IS DEFINITELY A CORRUPTIBLE PROCESS, AND I'M NO LONGER HOPEFUL FOR A GOOD OUTCOME.
OH, BY THE WAY, THE SCAR ON MY FOREHEAD IS FOR THE SKIN CANCER SURGERY.
I POSTPONE SO I COULD MEET WITH THE MAYOR.
WEEKEND UPDATE AND THIS IS NOT FROM SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE.
MAYOR MEDINA APPARENTLY DECIDED TO SKIP TOWN FOR THE FINAL THREE VOTES FOR CITY COUNCIL SEAT FIVE.
TO ME, IT'S LIKE NOT SHOWING UP FOR THE PROM.
I THINK THAT PUTS HIM IN THE REALM OF LIAR, CHEATER, SCAMMER AND COWARDLY.
WHAT'S NEXT? I GUESS WE'LL FIND OUT SHORTLY.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE SECTION 5057 COUNCIL MEMBER TEMPORARY VACANCY ILLNESS AND OTHER DISABILITY, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, SECTION 363, THE DETERMINATION OF SUCH ILLNESS OR DISABILITY SHALL BE MADE BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF AT LEAST THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHICH HAS NOT TAKEN PLACE, SIR.
THANK YOU. NEXT, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
1979, THE DEMOCRATS WALKED OUT, LEAVING A NON-MAJORITY VOTE.
THE DEMOCRATS WALKED OUT, LEAVING A LACK OF FORM.
2020, 21 DEMOCRATS WALKED OUT, LEAVING A LACK OF FORUM.
2030 WISCONSIN REPUBLICANS WALKED OUT, LEAVING A LACK OF FORM.
2023 PALM BAY ONE INDIVIDUAL WALKS OUT, LEAVING A LACK OF FORM.
THE PROCESS IS NOT UNUSUAL IN IN OUR HISTORY.
BUT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN IT'S A MECHANISM OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
ONCE IT STARTED, IT WAS USED AGAIN.
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AND ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THAT I'M NOT THAT I'M PROUD THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN WAS THE FACT OF THREE OF THE FIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE SELECTED FOR THE FINAL FIVE DON'T PAY TAXES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING LITTLE FACT.
THE PROCESS WAS A LITTLE BIT OBSCURED, BUT IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES.
MR MORE. I HADN'T ANYTHING PREPARED.
I WAS GOING TO. OH. FILLMORE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. I DIDN'T PREPARE ANYTHING.
I WAS JUST GOING TO LISTEN AND HEAR WHAT WAS BEING SAID.
AND I JUST I HAVE TO START WITH THE THE CORRUPTION OR PERCEPTION OF CORRUPTION CONTINUES, WHETHER IT BE JEFF BAILEY, PETER FILIBERTO OR NOW I'M GOING TO ADD YOU, ROB MEDINA, TO THAT LIST OF CORRUPTION.
YOUR JOB WAS TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER.
THAT SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU NEGLECTED TO DO.
YOU EVEN ADMITTED THAT YOU COULDN'T DO YOUR JOB.
YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER.
YOU TOOK THAT OATH TO FOLLOW THE CHARTER.
YOU TOOK THE OATH TO FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING AS A SERVANT.
NOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY, THEN THAT'S YOUR CHOICE.
YOU SAID THAT IT IS A FLAWED PROCESS, BUT YOU SAID THAT THAT WAS YOUR OPINION.
YOUR OPINION DOESN'T SUPERSEDE WHAT THE VOTERS VOTED ON.
AND THAT WAS THE OTHER THING YOU SAID.
NOT FOR YOU TO MAKE YOUR OWN OPINION ON THAT.
THIS WAS A FLAWED PROCESS AND YOU WEREN'T GOING TO FOLLOW IT.
AND WE'VE SEEN THAT TYPE OF ACTION BEFORE.
AGAIN, THE VOTERS DID VOTE OVERWHELMINGLY FOR THE CHARTER.
I UNDERSTOOD IT WHEN I WHEN I VOTED YES FOR THE AMENDMENT AS IT WAS.
I THINK EVERY OTHER PERSON UNDERSTOOD IT.
SO YOU PURPOSEFULLY CHOSE TO SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYBODY IN THIS POSITION.
THAT PUTS THE CITY IN A PRECARIOUS SITUATION TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT CITY BUSINESS.
DELGADO. MAYOR MEDINA COUNCILMAN.
I HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT VIEW OF THIS WHOLE THING.
I'M ACTUALLY GRATEFUL THAT MAYOR MEDINA DID WHAT HE DID, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT I READ IN THE CHARTER AND THE SPIRIT OF THE CHARTER WAS THAT PRIMARILY THAT ENTIRE DAIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO SHOW PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO ANY ONE PERSON.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE AN OBJECTIVE CHOICE.
AND IT'S EVIDENT IN THE CHOICES THAT YOU MADE.
YOU CHOSE PEOPLE WHO YOU KNEW, PEOPLE WHO YOU HAD EXPERIENCE WITH.
THERE WAS NO WAY HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO GIVE EVERYBODY A FAIR SHAKE.
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I BELIEVE THAT THAT AMENDMENT NEEDS TO BE REVERSED BECAUSE IT VIOLATED AT LEAST FIVE OF THE CODE OF ETHICS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONE WOULD BE SECTION EIGHT UNDER APPLICABLE LAWS AND POLICIES.PARAGRAPH TWO PUBLIC OFFICIALS SHOULD AVOID ACTION WHETHER OR NOT SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED WHICH MIGHT RESULT IN OR CREATE THE APPEARANCE OF OFFERING PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO ANY PERSON.
LOSING COMPLETE INDEPENDENCE AND IMPARTIALITY.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IN ANY SITUATION PEOPLE CHOOSE THEIR PEERS.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A REMEDY IF YOU.
IF THE GOAL OF THAT AMENDMENT WAS TO MAKE IT LESS COSTLY FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, THEN A BETTER REMEDY WOULD BE AT THE NEXT ELECTION TO HAVE AN ALTERNATE APPOINTED FOR EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL.
SO THAT SHOULD AND WE HAVE A HISTORY OF OF THIS HAPPENING RECENTLY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THAT THE PEOPLE WILL CHOOSE WHO WILL REPLACE YOU, BUT THEY WILL BE STANDING BY.
YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK, BUT THAT'S THE WAY TO LET THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR VOICE.
AND AGAIN, I THANK MAYOR MEDINA.
I THINK HE DID THE RIGHT THING BY EXERCISING THE ONLY WAY HE COULD VETO THIS PROCESS.
ELGATO. KENDALL GOT 1.5 FOR ANGELO ROAD SOUTHEAST. NUMBER ONE, THIS THIS IS NOT THIS IS A DEMOCRACY, BUT WE FORGET THAT IT'S A REPUBLIC AND NOT A STRICT DEMOCRACY.
SOME PEOPLE SAY THE VOTERS VOTED.
THAT IS CORRECT. THE VOTERS DID VOTE AND VOTERS VOTED FOR YOU.
ALSO, MAYOR MEDINA, TO REPRESENT THEIR POSITION.
AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE IN PUBLIC IS SO THAT THE FEW DON'T GET RUN OVER BY THE MANY.
AND SO YOU HAD EVERY RIGHT TO HAVE YOUR SPECIAL POSITION AND TO EXERCISE THAT POSITION.
AND AND AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE IT THE WAY WE HAVE IT, BECAUSE IT'S A CORRUPT PROCESS.
HE MENTIONED HOW YOU COULD VOTE IN SUCH A WAY AS TO ADJUST WHO'S GOING TO BE ON TOP.
THERE ARE SO MANY WRONG THINGS IN THIS PROCESS THAT OBVIOUSLY THE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE REVISED, IF NOT TOTALLY THROWN OUT AS AS WE HAD, AS I HAD SUGGESTED DURING THE CHARTER REVIEW.
I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN WHEN I WAS IN THAT CHARTER REVIEW, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WHAT THEY WERE SUGGESTING WAS THAT THE SPECIAL ELECTION WOULD HAPPEN THE NEXT VOTING CYCLE.
THE REASON WHY IT SAYS HERE WITHIN 60 DAYS SPECIAL ELECTION IS BECAUSE THE UNDERSTANDING, AS WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, WAS THAT IN 60 DAYS, IF IT DID NOT HAPPEN, WE WOULD THEN ORDER A SPECIAL ELECTION.
SO THE FACT THAT IT MENTIONED 60 DAYS AND A SPECIAL ELECTION, IT GAVE THE HUE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT USED TO BE THERE WOULD BE A SPECIAL ELECTION. A SPECIAL ELECTION IS NOT AN ELECTION ON THE ON THE YEAR OF ELECTIONS.
BUT THE CONTEXT OF 60 DAYS HOOKED UP TO SPECIAL ELECTION GAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT INDEED IT WAS A SPECIAL ELECTION THAT WE WERE GOING TO HOLD AS A CITY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A REPUBLIC WHERE PEOPLE GET TO ELECT WHO WHO DOES IT? SO AS FAR AS COWARDLY IS CONCERNED, I WOULD SAY, WELL, THAT'S A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE.
SO SO I ALSO REFUTE ANY COWARDLY.
AND I THINK IT'S QUITE COWARDLY TO CALL ANYBODY A COWARD.
I MEAN, AFTER ALL, WHO ARE YOU TO SAY YOU'RE A COWARD? SO I GO, THANK YOU FOR NOT HANGING UP YOUR YOUR POSITION IN THE CLOSET AND PULLING OUT.
GOD, WHENEVER YOU WANT IT. THAT YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU ARE.
AND I ACCEPT YOU THE WAY YOU ARE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS COUNCIL.
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ANY ANY DISCUSSION.AS YOU WERE. SO WE HAVE A CARD.
SO I PUT ONE IN FOR THIS ITEM, SIR.
OR FOR THIS ITEM ITEM THE COMMENTS.
YEAH, THIS IS NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR? NEW BUSINESS, NUMBER ONE.
OKAY. YOU JUST HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
COME ON UP. OH, DID YOU? OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE. WAS IT FOR THIS? FOR ONE OF MY FIRST TIME.
OKAY. NO, NO. IS IT FOR THIS ITEM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM.
IT'S NOT. IT'S A DIFFERENT ITEM.
THANK YOU. I MAY HAVE CHECKED THE WRONG BOX.
ITEM NUMBER ONE. ALL RIGHT, SO STEP UP.
MR MR. STICE. MADAM SAYS HE CHECKED THE WRONG BOX.
GOOD EVENING, ROBERT STEIN 1796 TWINBROOK DRIVE.
PERCEPTIONS ARE REAL, RIGHT? WE LOOK AT PEOPLE, WE CHAT WITH PEOPLE OR WHATNOT, AND WE AUTOMATICALLY FORM AN OPINION.
MANY TIMES WE FORM AN OPINION IF WE FILL IN THE BLANK.
WE FILL IT IN FOR WITH A NEGATIVE.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT ALL OF YOU AND YOU AGREED WITH THAT.
NOW, I DID TALK TO SOME OF YOU PERSONALLY.
WHAT I SAW WAS I WANT SOMEBODY WHO WHO LIKES WHAT I LIKES AND DOES WHAT I DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALL I SAW WAS IDEOLOGY.
AND I VISIT SOME OF THE STAFF AND I'M TELLING YOU, SOME OF YOUR IDEOLOGY IS GOING TO AFFECT YOUR STAFF AS WELL, NOT ONLY YOUR RESIDENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING WHERE YOU STARTED OFF WITH ME BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I TRIED TO READ THE BIBLE EVERY DAY AND WE DON'T READ IT EVERY DAY.
AND CERTAINLY I'M THE FURTHEST THING FROM PERFECTION.
I STILL CURSE LIKE A SAILOR, BUT I'M WORKING ON THAT.
LEADERS HAVE A SENSE OF MISSION.
DO WE? LEADERS LEVERAGE THEIR POWER.
DO WE? LADIES CONDUCT RESEARCH.
I MEAN, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING ON THAT.
LET'S LOOK INTERNALLY ON THAT.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADAPT TO THIS ADVERSITY? ARE WE GOING TO HIT A WALK INTO A BIG ROADBLOCK HERE OR ARE WE GOING TO GET TOGETHER AND STILL MOVE FORWARD AND TRY TO GET THINGS DONE? READER LEADERS RESIST UNDERHANDED POLITICS.
WOW. THAT'S AN INTRODUCTION TO NEHEMIAH.
I LIKE THAT ONE. LEADERS SERVE PEOPLE AND LEADERS CELEBRATE OFTEN.
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? I MEAN, MAYOR, WITH YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, I WAS GOING TO BRING THIS UP AND I WAS CONCERNED THAT, WOW, I'M BRINGING RELIGION INTO THE PROCESS.
GENTLEMEN, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS HOLISTICALLY.
THERE WERE A LOT OF GREAT CANDIDATES OUT THERE.
AND I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO AN INTERNAL ASSESS ON YOURSELF.
DID WE DID YOU? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? SIR. UH, THERE'S NO MOTION AT THIS POINT.
ANY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL? YES, MAYOR. I'M GONNA SPEAK.
UM, I'M LISTENING TO EVERYONE, AND IT REALLY BAFFLES ME.
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IN EMAILS AND IN PUBLIC COMMENTS IS THE VOTERS VOTED.THE VOTERS VOTED AND THEY WANT AN APPOINTMENT.
SO I'M ASKING WHAT PEOPLE ARE WE REFERRING TO SERVING? BECAUSE THE VOTERS OVERWHELMINGLY SAID, HEY, WE WANT WE WANT AN APPOINTMENT.
WE PUT OUR HANDS ON THE BIBLE AND WE SWORE TO UPHOLD THE CHARTER AS WELL IN THE CONSTITUTION.
SO UNTIL IT CHANGES, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO UPHOLD IT.
SO TO THAT POINT, I JUST I DISAGREE.
I FEEL YOU WOULD HAVE PROBABLY VOTED NO, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN HERE.
BUT BEING THAT HE WASN'T HERE TO BE HERE PHYSICALLY, THAT'S HOW IT THAT'S HOW IT WENT OUT.
OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPIRIT BEING UNEASY, LIKE.
SO I BELIEVE THEIR EDUCATED VOTERS AND THEY KNEW WHAT THEY WERE VOTING FOR.
UM, MY SPIRIT WAS UNEASY WITH THE FLAG.
MY SPIRIT WAS UNEASY WITH TRYING TO MAKE FILIBERTO DEPUTY MAYOR.
I DO MY JOB BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT Y'ALL Y'ALL VOTED FOR US TO DO.
UM, AND I SERVE THE SAME GOD TOO.
AND NO, I'M NOT PERFECT, BUT I'M HERE, AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL I'M DONE SERVING.
I FIND PROBLEMS IN ISSUES WITH HOW THIS WENT DOWN.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, DID I KNOW YOU SAID GOD, YOU KNOW, ORDAINED YOU OR TOLD YOU NOT TO BE HERE, BUT DID ANYBODY ELSE LEAN IN YOUR EAR AND TELL YOU OTHERWISE AS WELL? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO FROM HE SAY SHE SAY I JUST GO DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE, SIR.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO ENTERTAIN ANY OTHER MESS THAT I HEAR.
I JUST GO DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE.
SO WITH THAT, I REALLY FELT LIKE IT WAS UNCALLED FOR.
NOW THE SEAT IS GOING TO BE VACANT.
IF IT'S A TWO, TWO VOTE ITEMS DIE AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS.
SO THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE UNTIL 2024.
DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A LOT A LOT'S BEEN SAID AND.
YEAH. I LEARNED TO NEVER, NEVER SHARE THE SAME FAITH AS YOU.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE NEVER BEEN SO TROUBLED.
NEVER. I HAD TO REACH OUT TO MY PASTOR BECAUSE MY SOUL WAS TOUCHED.
SUCH A FAILURE OF OF LEADERSHIP.
SUCH A FAILURE. THAT'S HOW I VIEW IT.
AND I HAVE TO SHARE THAT PUBLICLY THAT THAT TOUCHED MY SOUL TO THE POINT WHERE.
WHAT A. WHAT A LACK OF LEADERSHIP THAT WAS DISPLAYED.
NOT ON SELLING WITH THE PROCESS, I GET IT.
COME TO THE DICE. SHOW UP FOR WORK.
MAKE IT CLEAR. SHARED WITH THE PEOPLE.
LET IT BE KNOWN WHERE YOU STAND, WHAT YOUR SPIRIT LED NOT SHOWING UP.
THAT DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT, MAYOR.
IT CERTAINLY DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT.
CHARTER AMENDMENT. GOVERNING THE PROCESS FOR FILLING VACANCY OF PALM BAY.
24,000 VOTERS WENT IN, CAST THEIR VOTE VERSUS 14,000.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO.
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YOU DIDN'T SHOW UP ON PURPOSE KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PULL THAT CARD.AND THAT IS TROUBLING TO ME PERSONALLY.
I THINK IT'S A LACK OF LEADERSHIP.
WHEN THIS CHARTER WHEN THIS AMENDMENT CAME BEFORE US, I DIDN'T QUITE GET THE FULL SENSE OF IT, BUT RATHER I DID OR NOT, I WOULD STILL STAND BY IT. I WOULD SHOW UP AND EXPRESS MY, MY, MY AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT.
BUT FOR YOU, SIR, NOT TO SHOW UP, THAT IS TRULY A A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP.
AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, BUT IT'S TRULY IT'S PUTTING PALM BAY IN A BAD POSITION.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN CLAIM PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY OF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
I CANNOT SAY IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DISPLAYED THAT PALM BAY AGAIN.
YOU RAN ON REESTABLISHED PUBLIC TRUST.
YOU CERTAINLY DIDN'T DISPLAY THAT, SIR.
LIKE I SAID, I WAS TRULY TROUBLED.
AND I HAD TO SPEAK TO MY PASTOR.
TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET IT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY MY REPORT.
I HOPE WE FIND A BETTER WAY MOVING FORWARD.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOUR COMMENTS.
FOSTER. YOU'RE A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO THE MIC, SIR.
I WANT TO THANK PASTOR DELGADO FOR COMING AND PRAYING FOR ME.
I WANT TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU, PASTOR. HIS WIFE, YOUR ANGEL.
VERY DISAPPOINTED. I UNDERSTAND YOUR RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND.
KNOW YOUR RELIGIOUS THOUGHTS, YOUR VIEWS FROM GOD.
I RESPECT ALL THAT. YOU GIVE ME AN EXPLANATION.
AND LIKE HE WAS IN CHURCH, NOT A COUNCIL CHAMBER.
AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT THERE IS.
KNOW, DURING THE WAR, WE HAVE PEOPLE WE HAVE RELIGIOUS CONVICTION.
AND WHEN YOU GO TO WAR BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION, DIDN'T THEY JOIN A MILITARY TEAM? YOU KNOW, THEY RAISED THEIR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR TO GOD AND THE CONSTITUTION THAT THEY WOULD PROTECT AND DEFEND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THE IMMEDIATE CONDITION BRAVOCON AND SAID, NO, DON'T GO FIGHT THAT WAR.
DON'T JOIN YOUR COMRADES IN PROTECTING THIS COUNTRY.
WELL, GUESS WHAT? THE CONRADS DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND THAT PERSON LEFT THE MILITARY.
THEY DIDN'T DO THE JOB BECAUSE OF IT.
BECAUSE THE RELIGIOUS CONVICTION AND I HAVE NO DISRESPECT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL WHO DOES THAT.
I HONOR THAT. THERE WAS ALSO PEOPLE OF THE SAME RELIGION THAT WENT TO FIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I HINTED AT. SO GOD SPEAKS TO PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
BECAUSE I DON'T I BELIEVE ONE OF BEING A VETERAN IS TO DO YOUR DUTY.
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DO YOU BIERI? WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, SOLDIERS DROP BOMBS ON INNOCENT PEOPLE.AND I KNOW THAT THEY REGRET DOING IT.
THEY HAD AN ORDER THEY HAD TO FOLLOW ORDER.
THEY HAD THE POWER OF THE CONSTITUTION, THE STRUCTURE.
YOUR ORDER WAS TO FOLLOW THE CITY CHARTER THAT YOU THAT YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO.
AND THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY VOTED FOR THAT CHARTER.
AND YOU REMEMBER THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING? I WAS ON THE PHONE. MY LAST WORD.
THE CHARTER? WHAT? THE CHARTER? BECAUSE ARE LISTED.
THAT'S WHY WE SAID OTHER GUYS WE GOT TO WITH THE US CONSTITUTION.
THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND PALM BAY CHARTER.
THE CITIZENS PUT YOU THERE TO DO THAT AND IT PUTS YOU THERE TO MAKE A DECISION ON A VOTE.
WHETHER YOU VOTE YES FOR THE INDIVIDUAL OR NO FOR THE INDIVIDUAL.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
THAT'S YOUR SEAT AND THAT'S YOUR DECISION.
AND IF WE IF YOU CONTINUE TO BE MOVED BY CERTAIN RELIGIOUS SPIRITS, MAYBE THE JOB IS NOT FOR YOU.
MAYBE YOU NEED TO BE IN A DIFFERENT JOB BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE TO ME.
AND SO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS BEING RECORDED.
I WANT YOU TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO WHAT YOU SAID.
I THINK YOU FAILED IN YOUR DUTIES AS MAYOR THIS WEEK.
I WAS HOPING THAT YOU SHOWED UP.
IF I COULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN A WHEELCHAIR, I COULD'VE BEEN THERE IN A WHEELCHAIR.
I'LL BE THERE. I'D BE THERE RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL BE HERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WAS ELECTED TO DO.
I TOOK QUITE A FEW VOTES ON THAT BALLOT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THAT DEEP DOWN IN MY THROAT.
I'M LIKE, THIS IS WRONG, BUT I VOTED IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU GUYS.
YOU CAN STILL TAKE A VOTE, BUT WE DON'T FEEL THAT IS RIGHT.
WHEN I VOTED AGAINST THEM AND I VOTED FOR SOME EVEN THOUGH I THOUGHT IT WAS WRONG.
BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MAN, I REALLY HAD SOME REALLY NEEDY AND NASTY COMMENTS FOR YOU THIS EVENING, AND I PRAY TO GOD TO TAKE THAT OUT OF ME.
I DON'T WANT TO. I'M NOT TRYING TO DISRESPECT YOU.
I REALLY LOVE YOU AS A FRIEND.
WE WERE VERY CLOSE BEFORE WE GOT ON THE BIKE, MAN.
YOU KNOW, THAT WAS VERY CLOSE.
AND. IT'S JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT YOU WERE A STAND UP GUY.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO. REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE VOTE WILL BE, WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE.
I THOUGHT YOU WOULD SAY YOUR PIECE AND VOTE YOUR WAY.
OKAY. WHAT PEOPLE SAY THE PROCESS IS NOT CORRECT.
I LOOKED AT THE MAP. I WAS BRIEFED ON THE PROCESS IN MY HOSPITAL BED.
WELL CALLED IN EVERY MEETING SINCE I'VE BEEN OFF A VENTILATOR.
I'VE BEEN CALLING IN, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S ON RECORD.
WELL, NOT 100% RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M CALLING IN BECAUSE I TOOK AN OATH TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND PEOPLE WENT OUT AND VOTED FOR ME.
AND YOUR ONE DECISION SHOULDN'T AFFECT THE WHOLE CITY.
MY ONE DECISION SHOULDN'T AFFECT THE WHOLE CITY.
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BUT IF THEY. SO.UM. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, MAN.
I REALLY DON'T. I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT I LOST A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I WENT DOWN, I BOUGHT YOU THIS GNAGE A NICE MARINE CORPS STATUE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR OFFICE.
I WAS SHOWING YOU MY LOVE THAT I HAD FOR YOU.
WAS THAT HURT? BESIDES THE PAIN I'M IN, THAT HURT HIM MOST.
I REALLY WAS HOPING THAT YOU GET US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
NOW, THIS, TO ME, WAS AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE CITY.
COUNCILWOMAN. THE CITY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK TO GET THEM ADVOCATES.
Y'ALL VOTED TO CHARGE HIM $25 FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK.
I VOTED AGAINST THAT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD CHARGE A VOLUNTEER TO PAY ANYTHING.
NOW, THE VOLUNTEERS PAY FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
THEY DELIVER ON THEIR PROMISES.
AND WE DIDN'T DELIVER ON A VOTE FOR ANY ONE OF THEM.
THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN RIGHT, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET A VOTE.
IS IT REALLY? DO THEY PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO PAY FOR? WE COULD PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S 25 HOURS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR FINANCIAL BACKGROUND IS.
THAT BOTHERED ME THAT WE MADE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY WHO VOLUNTEERED EVERY LAST ONE.
THAT COUNCIL JOB WAS NOT A CAKEWALK.
MIGHT LOOK EASY FOR THE AUDIENCE, BUT IT'S NOT.
IT'S A 24 HOUR JOB, AND THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE SICK.
AT HOME. THIS JOB GOES 24 OVER SEVEN.
AND I BELIEVE YOU LOVE PALM BAY.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR LOVE FOR THE CITY.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING NONE OF THAT, MAN.
WELL, I'M QUESTIONING YOUR ACTION.
JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU, I LOST A LOT OF RESPECT.
AND I LISTENED TO YOU VERY CAREFULLY.
THE WORDS THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH.
THE VOTERS VOTED FOR THE CHARTER AMENDMENT.
AND LIKE I SAID, IN THE YEAR, WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE CHARTER.
YOU DON'T LIKE THE CHARTER? YOU DON'T LIKE THE RULES.
BUT WHEN YOU SIT ON THAT DICE, YOUR GOD SPEAK TO US.
BUT WE ALSO EXPECT US TO PERFORM.
WE PUT US UP THERE FOR A REASON AS LEADERS TO LEAD THE COMMUNITY.
LET ME SEE THAT. AND SO I'M JUST VERY DISAPPOINTED.
I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE ONE DAY WE COULD TALK IN PRIVATE.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, I BOUGHT YOU THAT, AS YOU KNOW, I BOUGHT YOU THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT OF YOU WHEN I WAS IN D.C.. I TOLD YOU THAT YOU TOUCHED THE PART OF YOU TOUCHED MY HEART.
AGV. NO, I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, PASTOR.
THE FIRST TIME I OPENED MY EYES COMING OUT OF THAT COMA.
NOT OPEN MY EYES, BUT I WAS IN THE COMA.
I HEARD PASTOR DELGADO PRAYING FOR ME.
WAS IN MY ROOM. I COULDN'T OPEN MY EYES.
I COULDN'T SPEAK, BUT I FELT HIS PRESENCE.
I HEARD HIS WORDS AND IT GAVE ME HOPE.
AND I WILL OFTEN AGREE WITH PASTOR DELGADO ON POLITICAL.
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BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, I WANTED TO SAY PUBLICLY, HE'S A MAN OF GOD.AND I LOVE THEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS.
I CAN'T SEPARATE PUT JESUS IN MY POCKET.
HE GOES BEFORE ME AND HE STANDS BESIDE ME EVERYWHERE I GO.
THERE IS NO SEPARATION FOR ME.
AND I THOUGHT I COVERED THAT WHEN I RAISED MY RIGHT HAND.
I RAISED IT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT.
WHEN IT COMES TO BEING TRUSTWORTHY, I AM TRUSTWORTHY WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A LEADER.
I AM A LEADER. I DID NOT I DID NOT RENEGE MY DUTIES.
I STOOD STRONG BECAUSE I LISTENED TO THE MOST HIGH GOD AND I'LL END IT ON THAT.
THAT I WAS OBEDIENT TO HIS WORD.
IN SPITE OF WHAT MAN WOULD SAY, I WAS OBEDIENT TO HIS WORD.
NOW, EVEN IF THERE WERE FOUR MEN ON THIS DAIS AND HE TELLS ME NOT TO COME TO THIS CHAMBER, I WILL NOT COME TO THIS CHAMBER. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT PROCESS IS FLAWED.
IF I DON'T HAVE TO SIGN THAT RANKING SHEET IN FRONT OF A WITNESS.
THIS IS NOT SELECTING A BOARD MEMBER, GENTLEMEN.
THIS IS SELECTING SOMEONE, VOTING FOR THE PEOPLE, SELECTING SOMEONE TO SIT ON THE DAIS.
SO THE CONVICTION OF WHAT THE LORD SAID TO ME IS, IS WHAT IT IS.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU GUYS COME FROM.
HOWEVER, I KNOW THAT I WAS OBEDIENT.
SO I'LL END WITH THAT AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO PRESENTATIONS.
[PRESENTATIONS]
YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR.SO NEXT, BEFORE YOU IS THE PRESENTATION.
WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF THE TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY.
I'LL ACTUALLY ASK NATALIE SCHABER, WHO IS ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, TO COME UP AND JUST BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE ITEM AS WELL AS OUR CONSULTANTS, GEOSYNTEC, WHO ARE HERE TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER.
GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. SORRY YOU CAME AT SUCH A TIME AS THIS.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANTS, GEOSYNTEC AND APPLIED ECOLOGY, INC., WHO HAVE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME AND EFFORT PULLING TOGETHER THE TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THEY'VE USED EXISTING DATA TO DO JUST AN AMAZING JOB, AND THE STUDY IS GOING TO GIVE US A PATH FORWARD IN THE NORTHEAST BASIN TOWARDS STORMWATER QUALITY IN PARTICULAR, BUT ALSO FLOODING AND SO ON.
AND WITH NO FURTHER ADO, I WILL BRING UP MR OR DR.
HARDEN AND ARE YOU COMING UP? AND DR. LISTOPAD.
SO AS NATALIE MENTIONED, SO WE PERFORM THE TURKEY CREEK FEASIBILITY ASSESSMENT.
THIS PROJECT WAS DONE UNDER A FDEP 319 GRANT, WHICH WAS ABOUT $160,000 TO PERFORM THIS STUDY.
AND THEN GEOSYNTEC AND APPLIED ECOLOGY.
WE HAVE PERFORMED A STUDY IN ORDER TO PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD.
SO SPECIFICALLY, WE EVALUATED BASICALLY ALL ASPECTS OF OF TURKEY CREEK LOOKING AT OR LOOKING AT ISSUES BOTH WITHIN THE WATER BODY AS WELL AS WITHIN THE WATERSHED.
AND THEN SO NOW I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER TO CLAUDIA TO TALK ABOUT DREDGING.
SO ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IS DREDGING.
AS YOU KNOW, TURKEY CREEK HAS BEEN DREDGED MULTIPLE TIMES.
CURRENTLY YOU HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE DREDGING UP TO FIVE FEET OF NAVIGATION.
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SO YOU KNOW THE MUCK, WHAT'S IN THE BOTTOM OF THE CREEK DOES FLUX INTO THE WATER COLUMN.SO REMOVING THAT IS IMPORTANT AND ALSO RESTORING NAVIGATIONAL ACCESS.
THOSE ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOOD FOR THE HABITAT PROVIDING WILDLIFE HABITAT.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT CADILLAC ISLAND AS ONE OF THOSE ISLANDS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT THERE.
IT WILL IMPROVE FLUSHING AND LOCAL NAVIGATION.
SO THAT'S A CHEAPER, ACCESSIBLE WAY TO GET SOME OF THOSE NUTRIENTS OUT OF THE CREEK.
WE CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE TO KEEP MAINTAINING THAT WE LOOKED AT OTHER ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION.
AND I HIGHLIGHTED A PART OF IT.
THERE'S BENEFIT IN GOING THERE.
TO DO THIS, REMOVING EXOTIC SPECIES IS NOT A ONE TIME DEAL.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP MAINTAINING IT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
THERE'S ABOUT 650 LINEAR FEET THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE FROM THE BOAT DOCK ALL THE WAY EAST, THERE'S REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY THERE TO INSTALL SWALE LANDWARD OF TOP OF BANK, CREATE A SOFTER SIDE PLANT NATIVE VEGETATION THAT IS HAS A HUGE IMMEDIATE PUBLIC BENEFIT.
NOT ONLY YOUR PUBLIC YOUR CITIZENS WILL IMMEDIATELY SEE SOMETHING RESTORED, REDUCES EROSION, REDUCES IMPROVES WATER QUALITY NEARBY BETTER FOR FISHERY HABITAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC GOOD IN DOING A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT MORE RESTORING THE THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THE POND.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS AS A PRIORITY PROJECT TO REMOVE THIS EXOTIC SPECIES, PLANT WETLANDS, REROUTE SOME OF THE FLOW OF THAT STORMWATER POND THROUGH THE WETLANDS, WHICH WILL FURTHER CLEAN THE WATER BEFORE GETTING INTO TURKEY CREEK.
WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT WASTEWATER.
OVERALL, YOU HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF WORK IN THIS ARENA AND I KNOW YOU KEEP DOING IT.
I SAW ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER RETROFIT AS A GREAT BENEFIT.
WE ENCOURAGE FOR YOU TO KEEP DOING THAT.
WE HAVE GRADED YOUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY AND RIGHT NOW YOUR EFFLUENT THAT GOES INTO RECLAIMED IS HAS HAFT THE CONCENTRATIONS AND I THINK IS ONE FOURTH OF WHAT IT WAS FOR PHOSPHOROUS.
SO WE ARE SEEING THAT BY MONITORING GROUNDWATER.
WE ACTUALLY DO PERFORM SOME MONITORING AND WE'RE SEEING BENEFIT IMMEDIATE BENEFIT FROM THAT.
WE RECOMMEND FOR YOU TO KEEP BUILDING ON THE PREVIOUS EFFORTS.
YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU'RE STILL IMPLEMENTING, KEEP GOING AT IT.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, FIRST STEP IS, WELL, WHERE DO WE DO THINGS, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS WHERE WATER QUALITY PROJECTS MAKE SENSE? AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE PERFORMED WHAT'S CALLED A HOTSPOT ANALYSIS, WHERE WE DO A POLLUTANT LOADING AND THEN WE EVALUATE IT AT THE SUB BASIN LEVEL.
AND WE WE DELINEATED THESE SUB BASINS TO EACH INDIVIDUAL OUTFALL, TO TURKEY CREEK.
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SO FROM THAT WE IDENTIFIED UP TO OR ACTUALLY WE IDENTIFIED SEVEN DIFFERENT PROJECTS.I'M GOING TO GO OVER KIND OF THE THREE TOP RANKED ONES THAT WE HAD HERE.
SO THE FIRST ONE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT DR.
LISTOPAD JUST MENTIONED, IS THE CADILLAC DRIVE POND.
SO JUST BY ADDING A COUPLE OF BAFFLES, INCREASING THE FLOW PATH LENGTH, INCREASING THE RESIDENCE TIME OF WATER WITHIN THAT SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT WATER QUALITY BENEFIT. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE COST BENEFIT ON THE BOTTOM THERE, WHICH IS VERY COMPETITIVE FOR THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF BASE FLOW THAT FLOWS THROUGH THIS POND AS WELL.
AND THEN SO THE LAST PROJECT, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A BASE FLOW PROJECT.
AND SO ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD PROVIDE A PUMPING SYSTEM ONTO THE CANAL THAT'S SHOWN THERE, PUMP WATER UP INTO A CONTAINERIZED FILTRATION SYSTEM WHERE IT WOULD THEN FLOW BACK INTO THE CREEK. SINCE ITS BASE FLOW, IT'S ABLE TO JUST OPERATE ALL THE TIME.
SO YOU GET A VERY GOOD COST BENEFIT RATIO ON THOSE AS WELL AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER HIGH, HIGH QUALITY PROJECT.
SO NOW HOW DO WE PAY FOR ALL THESE THINGS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF GRANT AND FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
THERE'S ALSO THE NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM, THE SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FUNDS, AS WELL AS FLORIDA LEGISLATURE APPROPRIATIONS THAT CAN BE AVAILABLE TO HELP PAY FOR THESE KINDS OF PROJECTS.
SO JUST KIND OF SUMMARY RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD IS, YOU KNOW, KEEP KEEP A HOLISTIC APPROACH, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN ASSAULTING THIS ECOSYSTEM ON ALL FRONTS FOR A LONG TIME.
WE ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO INVEST IN DATA COLLECTION AND UNDERSTANDING THE SYSTEM.
IT'S HARD TO FIX SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, RIGHT? SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INVEST IN A SURFACE WATER MONITORING PROGRAM.
UNDERSTAND YOUR STORMWATER THAT'S COMING IN THERE AS WELL.
LISTOPAD MENTIONED, SEDIMENT ASSESSMENT IS IMPORTANT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF LEGACY POLLUTANTS THAT ARE IN THOSE SEDIMENTS THAT ARE FLUXING INTO THE WATER COLUMN THAT ARE CAUSING PROBLEMS. THEY WEREN'T PUT THERE TODAY, BUT THEY'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN PUTTING THEM THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
DR. LISTOPAD LISTED A LOT OF GREAT ECOLOGICAL RESTORATION OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT REMOVING SEDIMENT ISLANDS THAT HAVE FORMED OVER TIME AND MAINTAINING LITTLE SUMP AREAS THAT CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, KEEP YOU AHEAD OF NEW SEDIMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN AND KEEPING YOUR MAINTENANCE TO SMALLER AREAS INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO ACROSS THE ENTIRE CREEK.
SO WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT CONTINUE WITH THE WASTEWATER PROGRAM IMPROVEMENTS.
WADE TRIM HAD A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES.
I THINK ALL ARE FUNDED EXCEPT FOR ONE, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT, MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STORMWATER AND BASEFLOW PROJECTS THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED, AS WELL AS TO LOOK AT THE UPSTREAM CONTRIBUTING AREA TO THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL IS ANOTHER AREA.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS.
THANK YOU, SIR. AND I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND AND WORKING WITH OUR OUR CITIZENRY TO, I THINK, JON BON JOVI IN PARTICULAR, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. AND PART OF THAT I PROBABLY IS BETTER TO ASK STAFF.
BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU MENTIONED THAT DATA COLLECTING PROCESS BECAUSE THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. UM, DOES IT DO ANY OF THAT?
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THEY DO. DO THEY DO THAT FOR US? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR YOU OR NOT.OR MAYBE THAT'S BETTER DIRECTED AT STAFF OR.
THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME MONITORING THAT THE SAVE OUR LAGOON IS GETTING THE MIC, MA'AM.
SO THERE ARE SOME MONITORING, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S CONTINUOUS LONG TERM FOUGHT OUT THERE.
THERE ARE PROJECTS SPECIFIC, PARTICULARLY FOR IN TURKEY CREEK.
WELL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT GENTLEMAN, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL BAFFLE BOXES THAT ARE GOING TO TREAT THIS AREA AND AND YOU KNOW, JUST FILTER THAT SOLVENT. SO I'M I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR OUR STATE LEGISLATORS THAT THAT HELPED US GET THAT THAT FUNDING FOR THAT REPRESENTATIVE FIVE AND SENATOR MAYFIELD AND I BELIEVE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER IS WORKING HARD ON ON OUR FUTURE GRANTS TO TO RESTORE OUR TURKEY CREEK.
SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST ONE QUESTION.
GREAT PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT.
WITHIN THE PAST YEAR, THIS COUNCIL APPROVED A LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL THAT WE'VE PUT FORTH.
I JUST WANTED TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON THAT.
I BELIEVE WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY MUNICIPALITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY TO DO SO.
BUT HOW IT WOULD PLAY INTO EFFECT WITH THE RESTORATION OF TURKEY CREEK? YEAH, I APPLAUD THAT EFFORT.
LID IS A IS A WONDERFUL PRACTICE.
I'M ACTUALLY WORKING ON A LID MANUAL FOR ORANGE COUNTY RIGHT NOW AS WELL.
AND REALLY THE WAY IS INSTEAD OF CONCENTRATING EVERYTHING IN ONE AREA IS TO KIND OF SPREAD THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT, TRY AND INFILTRATE WATER INTO SMALL DEPRESSIONAL AREAS WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO TRY AND DISCONNECT IMPERVIOUS AREAS TO REDUCE THE VOLUME OF STORMWATER.
THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
DEPUTY MAYOR STANFORD. NOT SO MUCH OF A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR THE GREAT WORK YOU GUYS DID AND JUST ADDED TO WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED IN TERMS OF DATA COLLECTION. MAYOR MENTIONED IN MOST COMPANIES THAT DO VERY WELL, IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT PUSHING PRODUCT OR PUSHING SERVICES, BUT IT'S COLLECTING DATA THAT'S REFLECTING INTO THE SERVICES AND PRODUCTS THAT I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO YOU GUYS HELPING US IDENTIFY SOME OF THAT.
I'VE NOTICED A GREAT PICTURE AERIAL PICTURE OF OF THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE.
I THINK THERE'S SOME MISSED OPPORTUNITY THERE, TOO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ONLY IF WE HAD, YOU KNOW, UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
RIGHT. SO WE COULD ALL IMPLEMENT ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS.
BUT BUT I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DID, AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND I WAS VERY ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT.
THE LAGOON, WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS IN TERMS OF MAKING PROGRESS.
THE LAGOON IS GETTING HEALTHIER.
I THINK WE STILL KIND OF LOW, BUT IT'S EFFORT LIKE THIS.
YEAH. VALIDLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE GREATER AND HEALTHIER LAGOON.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. AND I WOULD ALSO I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET GET THE FREE MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE, LOOK AT THOSE GRANTS AND GO AFTER THAT BECAUSE THAT'S VERY HELPFUL. THESE LADIES. RIGHT ON.
WE'VE GOT A GREAT DEPUTY CITY DEPUTY CITY MANAGER THAT'S TRACKING THAT VERY WELL.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR. THANK YOU, SIR.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY.
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WE'RE I THINK.WAS JOHN MANZONI SUPPOSED TO SPEAK? WELL, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
HE COULD. WAS JOHN SUPPOSED TO SAY WE COULD? YEAH. CAN WE START? JOHN MONT-JOLI? YEAH.
MADISON DRIVE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
I WANTED TO THANK A LOT OF PEOPLE.
MIKE AND CLAUDIA FOR THE EXCELLENT REPORTS AND STUDIES THAT THEY'VE DONE.
MARY ANN, SHE SHE'S MORE IMPORTANT TO ME.
I DO. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY SHE'S MORE IMPORTANT, BUT JUST AS EQUALLY IMPORTANT.
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YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT PALM BAY ON THE MAP EVEN MORE BY TAKING CARE OF TURKEY CREEK.THE RESTORATION PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE OUTLINED IS MASSIVE.
I MAY NOT BE HERE FOR THE CONCLUSION.
THAT'S HOW MASSIVE IT IS, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF MONEY, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PLANNING AND EFFORT.
AND I THINK THE STUDY DONE BY GEOSYNTEC IS A GREAT START.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IDENTIFYING MANY AREAS THAT WE CAN WORK ON AND IDENTIFYING THE PLACES THAT WE CAN GET MONEY BECAUSE IT TAKES MONEY, YOU KNOW, AND I WANT TO APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW, SO YOU GUYS, I THINK, REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE.
I WANT YOU TO KEEP SUPPORTING US.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN 51 YEARS IN PALM BAY.
YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED ON TURKEY CREEK FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, BUT I'VE MOVED INLAND.
MARYANN IS STILL ON TURKEY CREEK.
WE HAVE TO JUST KEEP WORKING, KEEP MEETING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MANY YEARS AND DON'T GET DISCOURAGED.
YOU KNOW, WE'LL WE'LL PUSH ON OUR SIDE, BUT WE NEED YOU GUYS TO HELP OUT.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO THE CITY STAFF, CITY COUNCIL AND MARYANN.
MARY SEVILLE, 1301 LIBERTY STREET AND NORTHEAST PALM BAY.
AS JOHN SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION FOR A LONG, LONG TIME AND THE SEED FOR THIS STUDY WAS THROUGH A MEETING BETWEEN CITY STAFF JOHN AND MYSELF AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.
AND IT'S ONLY THROUGH THAT COLLABORATION THAT WE APPROACHED RANDY FINE.
SO THANK YOU, REPRESENTATIVE FINE FOR THE MONIES TO COMPLETE THIS STUDY BECAUSE WE REALIZED WE HAD BEEN SPINNING OUR WHEELS FOR SO LONG AND DIDN'T HAVE A REAL OVERARCHING SET OF PLANS TO MOVE THE CREEK RESTORATION FORWARD.
SO WE THINK WE HAVE IT WITH THIS STUDY.
WE'D LIKE TO THANK ALSO CITY STAFF.
THEY'VE BEEN GREAT WITH WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE TURKEY CREEK AREA AND ALSO GEOSYNTEC AND APPLIED ECOLOGY. EXCELLENT.
KEEPING EVERYONE INFORMED SO THAT WE CAN DISSEMINATE THE INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS THAT ARE STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA AND ALSO MELBOURNE.
TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, THEY HAVE RICK NIPPER AND MIKE MCCABE.
TILLMAN SO I THINK BRINGING ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER WITH THE CITY IS IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD.
WHILE THE MONIES ARE AVAILABLE TO GET THE MOST BANG FOR THE CITY'S BUCK.
SO IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD AND APPROVE THIS STUDY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THE STUDY, IT WOULD REALLY DO A LOT FOR RESTORING TURKEY CREEK.
AND AS JOHN SAID, TURKEY CREEK IS REALLY A MONEY MAKER FOR THE CITY.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES IN THAT AREA.
YOU HAVE HUGE FISHING PIERS THROUGHOUT THE AREA, WHICH ARE USED QUITE A BIT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
SO EVEN WITH THE SALE OF THE MARINA, WHICH THEY'RE DOING SOME WORK THERE NOW, WE EXPECT THAT THAT WHOLE AREA WILL BE A DRIVING FORCE FOR THE CITY.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND I HOPE YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
WELL, MISS MARY ANNE, THE FIRST THING WE SHOULD ALL BE SAYING IS WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
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AND THE GROWTH, THE FUTURE GROWTH.SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND THANK YOU, JOHN AS WELL.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO NEXT.
PUBLIC SPEAKER YEAH, MR. TAMBLYN. HOLLOWS BY BILL BENTON.
HOPE EVERYBODY IS DOING WELL TONIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO JUST START OFF WITH I'M TIM BLAND.
1992 LYNBROOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST.
AND YOU ALL HAVE SEEN ME HERE QUITE A FEW TIMES.
I HUH? CARRY ON, SIR. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE'S INTERRUPTING YOU.
THIS AFTERNOON, ACTUALLY, AFTER A MEETING AND SAW THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT VOTED FOR THE SAME CANDIDATE AS THEIR NUMBER ONE CHOICE WITHOUT A SIGNATURE, WITHOUT A WITNESS. SO IN MY MIND, THAT'S INTERESTING AND SOMEWHAT DISTURBING.
SO I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON HIS POSITION ON THE SIGNATURE AND THE WITNESS.
UM, GOSH, I MEAN, FIRST THING THAT COMES TO MY MIND IS COLLUSION.
SO ANYWAY, WE'LL SET THAT ASIDE.
WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING? TO RECREATE IN PALM BAY? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO SHOP? HERE IN PALM BAY.
HOW WILL OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SUPPORT THIS HUGE DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON AROUND HERE? POLICE, FIRE, EMTS, WATER, SEWER, ETCETERA? HOW ARE WE ADDRESSING THAT? YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT I DRIVE AROUND THE CITY AND I SEE NOTHING BUT NEW HOMES BEING BUILT ON PREVIOUSLY OVERGROWN LOTS.
BUT I DON'T SEE ANY I DON'T SEE ANY ROADS BEING DEVELOPED.
I DON'T SEE ANY NEW FIRE DEPARTMENTS BEING BUILT OR POLICE STATIONS BEING BUILT.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO PROTECT ALL THESE PEOPLE? THAT'S GOING TO BE 250,000 BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
AND LASTLY, I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THE ARNOLD PALMER DESIGNED GOLF COURSE IS STILL THERE, AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE ACTIVITIES FOR OUR YOUTH.
LOOK WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUTH ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
THERE WAS A GOLF COURSE RESURRECTED DOWN IN BY PALM BEACH, BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE PGA.
HE WAS AN EXECUTIVE AT SEVERAL BANKS.
HE RAISED $55 MILLION ON HIS OWN PRIVATELY TO BUY THIS COURSE AND RESURRECT IT, REDEVELOP IT.
AND HIS FOCUS WAS ON JUNIOR PROGRAMS. COME ON. WE GOT TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS STUFF AROUND PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
I KNOW FOR SOME WHAT I'M GOING TO ADDRESS IS GOING TO CREATE HATE AND DISCONTENT.
BUT WHAT'S UNUSUAL, THAT'S WHAT I DO ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? PRESIDENT UNITED STATES HAS ANNOUNCED THAT THE SPECIAL ACTIONS FOR COVID IS OVER.
I WAS I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
BUT HERE WE STAND SINCE THAT BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT'S WHAT ALLOWED US TO START HAVING PHONE CONVERSATIONS, ZOOM COUNCIL MEETINGS AND AUDIENCE NOT PRESENT TO FACE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT TO THE MEETING.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S THE PROCESS.
BUT THIS ABILITY TO HAVE MEETINGS FROM FROM A HOME WHERE WE CAN'T SEE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS CONDUCTING BUSINESS NEEDS TO STOP OR THERE'S A SOLUTION TO THAT HAVE IT SO THAT THE CITIZENS CAN ALSO CALL IN AND ADDRESS YOU THE SAME WAY THAT YOU'RE HAVING POLITICIANS CALL IN AND ADDRESS US, MAKE IT EQUAL.
THE SAME ACTION, FOR ONE, SHOULD BE THE ACTION FOR THE OTHER.
THAT BEING SAID, MAKE IT EQUAL.
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AND I'D PREFER THAT THE EQUAL BE YOU COME TO CHAMBERS BECAUSE DURING COVID I CAME TO CHAMBERS AS SOON AS YOU LET ME THROUGH THE DOOR AND I WOULDN'T MISS THE MEETING SO I COULD ADDRESS MY COUNCIL, EVEN THOUGH COUNCIL WAS STILL CONDUCTING IT FROM THEIR HOMES.I SAT IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT HERE, EMPTY CHAIRS WITH NOBODY.
THAT BEING SAID, COVID'S OVER.
LET'S GET BACK TO CONDUCTING BUSINESS IN THE CHAMBERS THE WAY POLITICIANS SHOULD.
I LIVE AT 938 JETTY STREET, NORTHEAST.
I'M HERE BECAUSE I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT CODE.
THEY'RE PITBULLS ARE GETTING OUT.
I'VE CALLED THE POLICE NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT I MEAN, THEY HAVE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.
AND I SAID, HOW DO YOU CLOSE A CASE? YOU KNOW, AND I TOOK A PICTURE DOWN.
I WENT LEFT, GOT OFF THE PHONE AND TOOK DOWN A PICTURE.
AND THEY SAID THE PERSON WHO WAS OUT DOING, YOU KNOW, THE INSPECTION AND STUFF CLOSED THE CASE.
BUT YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A FENCE THAT'S BEING HELD UP BY SANDBAGS, TIRES.
AND IT'S LEANING UP AGAINST MY MY FENCE, WHICH IS BULGING MY FENCE AND DAMAGING MY FENCE.
AND I MEAN, NOW THEY HAVE TWO CARS IN THE PARK, I MEAN, IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
AND THEN THEY HAVE A TRUCK THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE PLACE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
AND NOW THEY'RE PARKING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, WHICH IS DAMAGING MY MY YARD IN THE FRONT.
WITH DOGS RUNNING AROUND, YOU GO UP TO YOUR FRONT YARD.
I MEAN, FRONT DOOR. YOU GOT A PIT BULL STANDING BEHIND YOU.
THE DOG WENT AFTER THE OTHER DOG, BUT SHE HAD TO SWING IT AROUND WITH THE LEASH AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A FENCE THAT'S DOWN.
IT'S DAMAGING MY PRODUCT, MY PROPERTY.
I MEAN, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TO GET IT REPAIRED.
I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST CONCERNED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON.
I MEAN, WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, IT WAS DIFFERENT.
YOU COULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A PONTOON SITTING IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
NOW IT'S ALONGSIDE THEIR HOUSE.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE CARS THAT DON'T EVEN RUN THAT ARE SITTING THERE.
SO. WELL, I APPRECIATE YOU SHOWING UP, MA'AM.
I KNOW. TOOK YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
WOULD YOU MIND GETTING THE CARD FOR THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HERE? AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE CODE READDRESS THAT.
NOW, ANIMAL SERVICES, THAT'S A BREVARD COUNTY ISSUE.
BUT WE CAN BUT I MEAN, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE PROBABLY SHORTHANDED, BUT I MEAN, I'VE HAD I'VE HAD A PERSON COME PAINT MY HOME AND AT THE TIME THEY HAD A LITTLE STAY ON THE MIC. MA'AM. STAY ON. I'M SORRY.
I HAD SOMEONE PAINT MY HOME AND THE DOG WAS JUST A LITTLE DOG.
SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THEIR DOGS ARE COMING ON MY PROPERTY NOW.
I'VE GOT A PIT BULL NOW. THEY HAVE THREE PIT BULLS AND AN OLD DOG.
AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE LITTLE DOG.
YES, MA'AM. MAYBE WE COULD HELP DIRECT, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR ANIMAL SERVICES.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS, RANDALL.
RANDALL OLSZEWSKI 348, BROOK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.
IT'S GOOD TO COME HERE THIS EVENING AND ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING TAKE PLACE.
I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
BUT IF YOU GUYS KNOW ME, YOU KNOW I'M BETTER WITH THE VOCAL WORDS, IF ANYTHING ELSE.
SO THE BOARD AT THIS POINT IS PLEADING TO YOU COUNCIL FOR DIRECTION AS TO WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE BOARD IS AND HOW YOU FEEL. THE BEST WAY TO EXERCISE THAT PURPOSE WOULD BE AND WHAT INFORMATION WE CAN PROVIDE YOU TO EMPOWER YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE FISCAL
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YEAR BUDGETING PROCESS, WHICH IS VERY SOON YET TO BEGIN.THAT PROCESS STARTS NEXT MONTH, THE MONTH OF MAY.
NOW, THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD DOESN'T PLAN TO TAKE VACATION.
WE'LL STILL MEET THAT SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT MEETING.
SO THE ONLY THING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TO DATE IS TURN TO PRESIDENT.
AND IN THE RECENT PAST FISCAL YEARS, THE BOARD HAS MORE OR LESS PROVIDED A RECOMMENDATION OF WHETHER YOU SHOULD EXCEED THE CAP THAT'S INSTITUTED WITHIN THE CHARTER OR NOT. AND THAT HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY THE PRIMARY THEME OF THE MESSAGE THAT HAS BEEN DELIVERED HISTORICALLY.
THAT'S UNTIL LAST YEAR'S FISCAL YEAR, WHEN WE CAME WITH A BUDGET, WITH A STATEMENT THAT BASICALLY SAID WE COULDN'T RENDER AN OPINION ON THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT WAS THE ASK. WE FELT AS THOUGH THE ASK WAS TO EDUCATE OURSELVES ON THE BUDGET, CREATE A FORUM FOR THE CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET FURTHER AND TO ADVISE YOU AS A COUNCIL HOW TO MOVE FURTHER IN THE BUDGET.
BUT OUR BYLAWS REALLY HAMSTRUNG US IN THE FORM THAT ALL OF THE RESOLUTIONS ARE MEANT TO COME TO US AS A BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND GIVEN TO YOU AND PASSED BY YOU.
SO AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY PASSED IT, THEN YOU SEND IT TO US TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ADVISE YOU ON IT.
THAT'S COUNTERINTUITIVE. COUNCIL WE'D LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED.
NOW, THE LAST SECTION OF THE BYLAWS, SECTION TEN ALLOWS FOR THE DISSOLUTION OF THE BOARD AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AND COUNCIL HAS ATTEMPTED TO EXERCISE THAT AND SAID IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING FROM US.
WE'RE CHANGING OUR MEETING TIME RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
KENDEL GODWIN, 54, ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEAST COUNCIL.
USUALLY, THEY SAY AS EMOTIONS RUN HIGH, INTELLIGENCE RUNS LOW.
AND I THINK THE EMOTIONS ARE ALREADY GONE NOW.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS HOW HOW DO YOU GO THROUGH ALL THIS? ACTUALLY, I'M HERE TO PRAY FOR FOR RANDY FOSTER.
ROMANS 14 ACTS CHAPTER 5TH MAY HELP YOU IN IN DECIDING.
BUT I'M HERE TO PRAY FOR RANDY FOSTER.
RANDY FOSTER IS A MEMBER OF THIS DIOCESE, AND THE BIBLE DOES SAY PRAY ONE FOR ANOTHER.
AND WE DO PRAY FOR EVERYONE HERE.
AGAIN, ON A SIDE NOTE, JUST REMEMBER, IF YOU FEEL LIKE SOMEONE HAS FALLEN SHORT, REMEMBER WE ALL FALL SHORT AT SOME POINT IN TIME AND WE ALL HAVE TO FORGIVE EACH OTHER AND WE HAVE TO RESTORE EACH OTHER. AND IT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS OF OF HUMANITY.
AND I JUST LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PRAY FOR HIM IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE.
IS THAT PERMISSIBLE PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU COULD YOU COULD SAY WHAT YOU LIKE, SIR.
AMEN. FATHER, WE DO THANK YOU FOR COUNCIL MEMBER RANDY FOSTER.
WE THANK YOU FOR SAVING HIS LIFE.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE MANDATES THAT YOU GAVE HIM WHILE HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO GO BE WITH YOU.
WE THANK YOU THAT YOU HAVE SPARED HIS LIFE.
THAT GRACE AND MERCY IS TOWARDS HIM AS IT IS TOWARDS ALL OF US, AS WE AS WE WALK THIS WALK OF LOVE.
I'M ASKING THAT YOU CONTINUE TO TO QUICKEN THE THE HEALING TIME.
NOW THAT YOU BRING RESTORATION, EVEN AS I PRAY TODAY THAT HIS KIDNEY IS FULLY FUNCTIONING AND THAT EVERYTHING IS WORKING TOGETHER FOR GOOD, THAT HE IS WALKING OUT OF THE HOSPITAL WHOLE AND OF SOUND MIND AND SOUND BODY.
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BODY, AND THAT YOU SURROUND HIM WITH YOUR ANGELS AND THAT PEACE WOULD OVERSHADOW HIM.THANK YOU FOR HIS TENACITY TO WANT TO FULFILL HIS HIS DUTY.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT HE'S DONE IN LAYING DOWN HIS LIFE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE AND CONTINUES TO DO SO.
THANK YOU FOR CONTINUED HEALTH IN JESUS NAME.
THIS CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
OH, DID YOU NOT CALL? YOU CALL THEM, DID YOU? ARE YOU OKAY? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL CITIZENS.
THIS IS SPEAKING TO THE MIC, SIR.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT JOBS.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT MONEY.
BECAUSE WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE YOU TO TWO PATENTS I HAVE.
OKAY. THE FIRST PATENT SPEAKING TO THE MIC, SIR.
THE FIRST PATENT IS A MEDICAL ALERT.
I'M QUITE SURE ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MEDICAL ALERTS.
THIS PATENT IS THE MEDICAL ALERT.
IT'S DIFFERENT FROM ANY MEDICAL ALERT ON THE MARKET.
THREE WAYS THAT YOU CAN USE A MEDICAL ALERT TO GET ASSISTANCE.
YOU GET. THEY SEND A MESSAGE OUT TO AN OPERATOR AND THEY SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO YOUR HOUSE.
ONCE THEY GET TO YOUR HOUSE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A KEY TO GET IN OR THEY HAVE TO CONTACT SOMEBODY TO BRING A KEY TO GET IN OR THEY BREAK DOWN THE DOOR.
OKAY. WELL, THEY BREAK DOWN THE DOOR.
SO OUR GOVERNMENT, THEY GAVE ME THIS PATENT, WHICH ALLEVIATES BREAKING DOWN YOUR DOOR.
IT ALLEVIATES SOMEONE HAVING A KEY AND IT ALLEVIATES ANYBODY HAVING A LOCK BOX ON THE DOOR.
WITH THIS PATENT WHEN YOU FALL OR YOU SUMMON FOR HELP.
YOUR DOOR AUTOMATICALLY OPENS.
WE COULD BRING JOBS TO THIS COMMUNITY.
I PROPOSE THAT WE LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
THE SILVER PATENT IS A PATENT FOR A TOOL WHICH MOST CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, AUTOMOTIVE AND AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. JUST ABOUT ANY ANYBODY THAT USES A TOOL WOULD BE WOULD WANT THIS.
IT'S CALLED A 90 DEGREE SOCKET ADAPTER.
IT'S FOR CONFINED AREAS WHERE PEOPLE ARE BUSTING THE KNUCKLES TRYING TO.
OKAY. THIS ONE HASN'T BEEN PROVEN, BUT THIS ONE HAS.
I HAVE ALL THE PAPERWORK ON IT.
YOU TELL YOU WHO'S MAKING THE MOST MONEY OFF OF IT.
BUT WE NEED TO GET THIS HERE AND KNOCK THEM DOWN A BIT.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS.
HOPEFULLY YOU YOU'LL AN INVESTOR.
SO NOW WE'VE GOT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
NUMBER ONE, MISS SMITH.ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 14 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE SITE.
20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 20 BLOCK 777 PORT MALABAR UNIT 16 ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15 PAGES 84 THROUGH 98 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NASTY APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
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IS THE APPLICANT HERE? SEEING NONE COUNCIL ANYONE.OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY SECOND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
IS COUNCILMAN. FOSTER ON THE LINE, MA'AM.
COPY THAT, MA'AM. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTERS DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND CONDITIONAL USES MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO SELF STORAGE FACILITIES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO ASK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
YES, IT WAS IT PASSED UNANIMOUSLY LAST LAST COUNCIL MEETING.
THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE SELF STORAGE FACILITIES WHEN THEY COME BEFORE US.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
I WILL SAY BEFORE I CALL THE VOTE.
REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS AND IN PARTICULAR STAFF.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MISS SMITH. ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 18 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA REDEFINING AND ESTABLISHING THE TERRITORIAL AND CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
PROVIDING FOR THE CITY CLERK TO FILE SAID DEFINITION OF THE CITY'S BOUNDARIES WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA SECRETARY OF STATE PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, MAYOR, THIS IS A FINAL READING OF THE ORDINANCE, AND UPON ENACTMENT, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY CHARTER AND RECORDED WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR ORDINANCE 20 2319 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 34 HUMAN RESOURCES.
SUBCHAPTER GENERAL PROVISIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR A GENERAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENT AND A SPECIAL CRIMINAL HISTORY BACKGROUND CHECK PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MS..
WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH STATE STATUTES, AND THIS WILL HELP US ACCOMPLISH THAT.
THANK YOU. COPY THAT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP RIGHT UP.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
THIS JUST. I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS AND WHY YOU'RE DOING IT.
THERE'S NO NO DOUBT THAT IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT GENERATES A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
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WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FELONY.YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MISDEMEANORS.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT ACTION ARE YOU? YOU'RE GOING TO GET ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
WHAT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE IS ONCE YOU GET THAT BACKGROUND CHECK, DID YOU HAVE ANY GUIDELINES TO SAY, WELL, YOU'VE YOU'VE GOT A BAD YOU'VE HAD A BAD INCIDENT IN YOUR LIFE, YOU AREN'T GOING TO BE CONSIDERED FOR EMPLOYMENT OR ANY SOMETHING ELSE WITHIN THE CITY.
I JUST DIDN'T SEE ANY GUIDELINES OF WHERE THIS WAS GOING TO LEAD.
ARE YOU NOW BACK INTO BEING A GOOD CITIZEN OR AN ASSET TO SOCIETY, OR IS THIS YOUR ACTIONS FROM WHEN YOU WERE 13 YEARS OLD GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT FOLLOWS YOU TO YOUR 90? THAT'S WHY I JUST I DIDN'T SEE ANY GUIDELINE IN THERE WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
ALL RIGHT. SO AFTER YOU SERVE YOUR TIME, WE'RE A SOCIETY OF FORGIVENESS.
I'M KIND OF HOPING THAT SOMEPLACE IN THERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT.
BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU, IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH, EVEN IF YOU WEREN'T CAUGHT, JUST ABOUT EVERYONE HAS DONE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DETRIMENTAL IN THEIR, LET'S SAY, THEIR POLITICAL I IF THEY WERE IF THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN CAUGHT.
THANK YOU. MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANTED TO TAKE A STAB AT ANSWERING SOME OF THAT? YEAH. I MEAN, THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
I JUST DON'T HAVE THEM TONIGHT TO GO THROUGH.
BUT BUT YES, I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 20.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE FIVE LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 50 PUBLIC HEARINGS BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE GIST OF THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE CHANGES TO OUR ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS US TO PUT PUBLIC HEARING NOTICES ON A WEBSITE INSTEAD OF USING A PUBLICATION BASED ON THE STATE LAW CHANGING RECENTLY.
SO WE'RE JUST REFLECTING THOSE CHANGES IN OUR ORDINANCE THROUGH THIS ACTION.
AND THIS IS TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS WEBSITE.
YES, SIR. THAT WAS ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE FIND INITIATIVE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? YES. YES, SIR.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
IT'S NICE THAT WE'RE HEARING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE, BUT BECAUSE I WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PACKET AND I COULDN'T FIND OUT WHERE THAT WHERE THAT IS BECAUSE I SOMETIMES USE THE NEWSPAPER AND I GET THE AND I GET THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I KNOW ABOUT IT JUST FOR ONE, YOU KNOW, JUST ANOTHER ACCESS.
AND MASTER CHIEF, THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK ALSO IS EVERY EVERY MUNICIPALITY OF THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO PARTNER, THEY'LL THEY'LL CHIP IN AND HAVE SOMEONE MONITOR THAT AND AND BE ABLE TO TO PASS ON THAT INFORMATION.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SIX ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 21 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
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BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF SIX PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN, RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN.
YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL READING FOR THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
COUNCIL. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.
SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE? AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MR. SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
ESSENTIALLY, AS YOU HAVE SEEN IN OTHER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WE WILL HAVE A SERIES OF ITEMS IN THE AGREEMENT THAT BASICALLY PROVIDE GUIDANCE ON WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPROVING AS IT PERTAINS TO THE IMPACT OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
THERE IS A TABLE THAT INCLUDES THE ESSENTIALLY THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE ITEMS THAT ARE A PORTION OF THE COST FOR DIFFERENT THINGS, INCLUDING SIGNALIZATION AT SEVERAL SPOTS ALONG BABCOCK AND ROADWAY EXTENSION ITEMS RELATED TO MERALOMA BOULEVARD.
PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ITEM ON THIS IS THE REQUIREMENT TO CONSTRUCT THE BABCOCK AND MERALOMA SIGNAL, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED IN THAT AREA, AS YOU'RE AWARE. AND THIS THIS IS TRIGGERED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S ALSO A REQUIREMENT TO RESTORE DAMAGED AREAS OF MERALOMA BOULEVARD THAT MAY OCCUR FROM THE THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES AND STAFF HAS ALSO INFORMED ME THAT A REPRESENTATIVE OF KB HOMES IS HERE AS WELL.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING WITH HIM OR HEARING FROM THEM.
OTHERWISE, THAT'S MY REPORT ON THIS ITEM.
MA'AM, IS THIS ALSO THE ALIGNMENT OF THAT SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE AS WELL? OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JOURNEY. DRIVE FURTHER.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT ITEM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD.
THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING.
YOU MAY REMEMBER ME STANDING BEFORE YOU.
SO HERE WE ARE THREE YEARS LATER.
THE PROJECT IS WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH OUR COMMITMENT TO INSTALL THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST ITEM AS MR SHERMAN IDENTIFIED AT MARE LOMA AND BABCOCK STREET, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO SUNRISE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND WE MENTIONED AT THAT MEETING FROM IN FRONT OF ABOUT 40 NEIGHBORS THAT THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WAS APPROVED AND STARTING TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND THERE WAS AN APPLAUSE.
IT'S REALLY A WELL THOUGHT OUT, THOROUGH DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.
WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH STAFF TO GET TO THIS POINT, SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, BUT JUST WANTED TO BRING YOU BACK THROUGH THE KIND OF THE HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT HERE. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
JUST BRIEFLY, STAFF HAS CLARIFIED FOR ME.
I SAW SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, ALSO KNOWN AS JOURNEY DRIVE, FOR PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEY ARE IMPROVING THAT SECTION, TOO.
JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S WHAT I THANK YOU, MA'AM.
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I APPRECIATE THAT.ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND KB HOME, ORLANDO, LLC.
YES. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.
AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS EIGHT, TEN AND 11.
COUNCIL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY TO WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY, AND EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
THANK YOU, JAKE WISE BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD.
OH, THANK YOU. THIS IS REALLY COOL.
AND YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST KEEP IT UP.
YEAH. I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE HAVE HALF A BASKETBALL TEAM BEHIND ME HERE.
THAT'S RIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY I COME BEFORE YOU ON A LOT OF PROJECTS.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING ONES THAT I HAVE EVER BEEN A PART OF.
AND I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I AM GOING TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY BECAUSE THE EXPERTS ARE HERE WITH ME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT.
BUT TONIGHT IS THE FIRST MAJOR MILESTONE STEP.
BUT IT'S ONLY THE FIRST STEP FOR THIS PROJECT TO COME TO FRUITION AND BE ABLE TO COME.
TWO PROJECTS ACTUALLY TO COME TO PALM BAY.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS SIMPLY A VOTE TO ALLOW OUR FINAL PLAT TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE'RE TAKING ABOUT 120 ACRE CAMPUS FOR L3 HARRIS PALM BAY ROAD.
WE'RE CREATING THREE LOTS ONE LOT FOR A PROJECT CALLED SAM T A SECOND LOT FOR A SECOND PROJECT CALLED LEO, AND THE REST OF THE CAMPUS WOULD BE THE THIRD LOT.
SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT.
BUT IT'S, AS I SAID, THE FIRST STEP TO A MUCH BIGGER PROJECT OR PLURAL PROJECTS.
JUST BRIEFLY, WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLAT.
AND THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE JASON LAMBERT.
HE CAN GIVE YOU A LOT MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
MAYOR MEDINA DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME THIS EVENING.
FLORIDA IS HOME TO A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF L3.
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CITY OF PALM BAY.FIRST, I'LL DISCUSS INORGANIC GROWTH OR OUR MAJOR RECENT ACQUISITION ACTIVITY.
IN JANUARY 2023 L3, HARRIS COMPLETED THE $2 BILLION ACQUISITION OF VIASAT'S LINK 16 ASSETS.
SECOND IN DECEMBER OF 2022 L3, HARRIS ANNOUNCED INTENT TO ACQUIRE AEROJET ROCKETDYNE IN AN ALL CASH TRANSACTION VALUED AT $4.7 BILLION.
AEROJET ROCKETDYNE IS A PROVEN PROVIDER OF WORLD CLASS PROPULSION SYSTEMS AND ENERGETICS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, NASA AND OTHER PARTNERS AND ALLIES WORLDWIDE. AEROJET ROCKETDYNE HAS A 100 YEAR HERITAGE OF DELIVERING SOME OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT MOMENTS IN SPACE EXPLORATION AND DISCOVERY, WHILE ALSO LEADING THE INDUSTRY WITH INVESTMENTS IN ROCKET PROPULSION THAT SUPPORTS AMERICA'S WARFIGHTERS AND ENHANCE INTEGRATED DEFENSE.
SO THAT'S THE INORGANIC GROWTH.
FIRST IS L3, HARRIS SPACE SYSTEMS. IT'S OUR FASTEST GROWING BUSINESS WITHIN THE SPACE AND AIRBORNE SYSTEMS SEGMENT.
WE HAVE PROJECT LEO, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
NOW PROJECT LEO STANDS FOR LOW EARTH ORBIT AND IT ALSO STANDS FOR LEO THE LION, THE CONSTELLATION.
AND WE HAD A NAMING ACTUALLY COMPETITION WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND THE EMPLOYEES SELECTED PROJECT LEO AS THE NAME TO REPRESENT OUR BUSINESS AS THE FIERCE PROTECTOR OF OUR NATION'S DEFENSE.
THIS FACILITY WILL BE USED TO PRODUCE SATELLITE CONSTELLATIONS FOCUSED ON NATIONAL DEFENSE AND INTEREST FOR MULTIPLE US GOVERNMENT AGENCIES SUCH AS THE SPACE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY, AIR FORCE AND OTHER CLASSIFIED CUSTOMERS.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN MAINTAIN THE COSTS AND KEEP THEM TO A MINIMUM.
APPROXIMATELY 100 NEW JOBS WITH AN AVERAGE SALARY IN EXCESS OF $100,000 PER POSITION.
SECOND, I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT L3, HARRIS'S INTELLIGENCE AND CYBER BUSINESS.
WE HAVE A PROJECT CALLED SAM T, WHICH STANDS FOR SECURE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGY.
THE NEW INTEL AND CYBER FACTORY WILL BE A STATE OF THE ART FACILITY SUPPORTING UNIQUE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TECHNOLOGIES, ALLOWING OPPORTUNITIES FOR MARKET SPAN EXPANSION INTO OTHER ADVANCED MISSION APPLICATIONS.
$160 MILLION ROUGHLY COST $175 MILLION EACH HAVE APPROXIMATELY 100 NEW JOBS EACH, AND THE AVERAGE SALARY FOR THOSE JOBS, AGAIN, IS NORTH OF 100,000 EACH.
SO WHY ARE WE HERE TONIGHT? WHAT IS OUR STRATEGY AND WHAT IS L3? HARRIS'S REQUEST FROM THE CITY? SO TONIGHT WE'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL FOR SUBDIVIDING OUR EXISTING PALM BAY CAMPUS INTO THREE LOTS.
OUR INTENT IS TO TAKE VACANT LAND ON OUR CURRENT LOT AND PARSE IT OUT INTO TWO NEW PLATS, ONE FOR PROJECT LEO AND ONE FOR THE PROJECT SAM T AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE CARVE OUTS ACTUALLY ARE THE SQUARES SHOWN ON THE GRAPHIC? NOW AS I MENTIONED, L3 HARRIS HAS INVESTED IN ACQUIRING NEW COMPANIES AS PART OF OUR GROWTH STRATEGY.
THOSE ACQUISITIONS, 2,000,000,001 IN EXCESS OF FOUR.
REQUIRED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BOTH CASH AS WELL AS DEBT FINANCING.
OR PROJECT LEO AND PROJECT SAM TI.
OUR BUSINESS NEEDS TO MAKE THE ECONOMICS OF OUR BUSINESS CASE WORK.
AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE TWO AREAS WE'RE PURSUING.
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HARRIS CASH OR DEBT FINANCING.NOW, IN THESE CASES, OUR INVESTORS WOULD FINANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW FACTORIES AND L3.
HARRIS WOULD MAKE LEASE PAYMENTS TO THE BUILDING OVER TIME IN ORDER TO ENABLE THESE LEASE TRANSACTIONS, HOWEVER, WE FIRST NEED TO SUBDIVIDE OUR PLAT TO BREAK OUT THESE TWO CARVE OUTS, ONE FOR PROJECT LEO AND ONE FOR PROJECT T.
NOW THE OTHER FACTOR ASSOCIATED WITH THE ECONOMICS OF OUR BUSINESS CASE TO CONSTRUCT THESE IN PALM BAY WILL BE PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENTS, BUT THOSE WILL BE DISCUSSED AT MORE DETAIL AT A LATER DATE.
HOWEVER, I DID WANT TO FORMALLY SIGNAL THAT L3 HARRIS HAS AN INTENT TO APPLY FOR THOSE.
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. SO FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INVESTMENT IN PALM BAY.
THE FIRST THING YOU SAID, SAM, WAS GOING TO BE 60 MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENT.
SIR, THE THE THE TWO PROJECTS.
THIS IS FOR OUR SPACE BUSINESS.
THE ESTIMATED COST OF THE FACILITIES FOR THIS IS ESTIMATED AROUND $60 MILLION.
UNFORTUNATELY, OUR ESTIMATES ARE GROWING IN THAT REGARD.
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM MANAGED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 60, 60 OR PLUS.
THAT'S FOR OUR SPACE BUSINESS.
100 NEW JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED THROUGH THAT.
AND THE JOBS AGAIN, 100 K OVER 100 K EACH.
THE SECOND PROJECT IS THE SAM T, THAT PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO COST ROUGHLY $75.
MILLION HAS SOME SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF THE FACILITY AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THERE AND THAT AGAIN, THAT PROJECT INDEPENDENTLY WILL HAVE AN ADDITIONAL ROUGHLY 100 JOBS AND THOSE JOBS WILL BE IN EXCESS OF 100,000 EACH.
THAT'S AMAZING. IT'S VERY EXCITING.
I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS OUR THIS IS THE HUB OF OUR BUSINESS.
AND WE'D LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT HERE.
WE'VE GOT OUR HEADQUARTERS HERE.
WE'VE GOT OUR BASE OF RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT HERE.
AND I ASKED THE ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER TODAY FROM AN INDIVIDUAL ABOUT WHAT COULD THIS POTENTIALLY MEAN FOR GROWTH DOWN THE ROAD? AND I'D SAY THE REASON WE WANT TO BUILD THESE HERE IS WE'VE GOT EXISTING LAND THAT'S UNDEVELOPED.
FRANKLY. IT'S YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL BUILDINGS ON OUR CAMPUS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THESE BUILDINGS ON ESSENTIALLY VACANT LOT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS GOING TO BE NEW SPACES.
AND SO WHAT COULD COME IN THE FUTURE FROM THIS POTENTIALLY MORE GROWTH? WE'LL SEE. BUT WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT HERE WHERE WE HAVE OUR CENTER AND OUR HEADQUARTERS.
NOW WE'VE GOT A BROAD MANUFACTURING NETWORK AS WELL WITH SUPPLIERS THAT HELP SUPPORT ALL THIS, TOO.
SO WE DO HAVE OTHER OPTIONS AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE TWO INDEPENDENTLY.
SO MAYBE ANOTHER PART OF OUR STRATEGY TO TONIGHT'S REQUEST ON THE ON THE APPROVAL FOR BREAKING OR SUBDIVIDING OUR LAND, WE DECIDED TO DO THAT IN ONE REQUEST JUST FOR EFFICIENCY'S SAKE, RATHER THAN TO COME IN WITH TWO SEPARATE REQUESTS.
BUT THE BUSINESS CASE FOR EACH OF THESE PROJECTS, PROJECT LEO AND PROJECT SAM, THEY STAND ALONE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION ON PROCEEDING AND WHERE TO GO BUILD THOSE.
IT WILL BE AN INDEPENDENT DECISION ON EACH OF THOSE.
AND THESE JOBS THAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING.
YES, SIR. THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE OFF SITE JOBS.
THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO PROSPER.
AND THOSE BUSINESSES YOU'RE GOING TO FOSTER WITH OTHER CONTRACTS.
THOSE WOULD ALL BE ACCRETIVE TO THE NUMBERS I MENTIONED.
IT'LL ALL JUST BE LIFTING UP OUR WHOLE ECONOMY AND YES, SIR.
AND OUR JOB CREATION CAPACITY HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
YES, SIR. I MEAN, WE'RE IN THESE JOBS ARE A MIX OF ENGINEERING TALENT, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE A MIX OF ALSO MANUFACTURING TECHNICIANS WITH VERY HIGH END TYPE OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE HAVE TO BUILD THERE.
AND THEN ALL THE SUPPORT FUNCTIONS THAT GO INTO RUNNING A FACTORY.
BUT THOSE ARE THE JOBS I MENTIONED.
HARRIS OUR EMPLOYEES, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SUPPORT FOR THEIR SURROUNDING.
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WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE ACCRETIVE GROWTH THAT WOULD HAPPEN OR FROM OTHER SUPPLIERS OR SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE AREA? WELL, SIR, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS.I HAVE TO TELL YOU, THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN REALLY PUSHING ITEMS LIKE THIS.
AND I'M SURE JAKE MIGHT HAVE BRIEFED YOU HOW EXCITED THE MAYOR WAS GOING TO BE WITH THIS THIS OPPORTUNITY OF YOU INVESTING NOT ONLY IN OUR CITY, BUT INVESTING IN THE LIVES IN OUR CITY, INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE IN OUR CITY WITH GREAT PAYING JOBS AND GREAT OPPORTUNITIES.
THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR.
BUT THE OTHER QUESTION I ASKED YOU AND YOU MENTIONED THE FUTURE GROWTH, AND I'LL ASK YOU AGAIN, HAVE YOU ALL CONSIDERED EITHER NOW OR IN THE FUTURE POTENTIALLY, BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT L3, HARRIS AND THE CAMPUS AROUND IT, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING LOTS ALL THROUGHOUT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF AREA POTENTIALLY WHERE YOU CAN BUILD.
SO HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY A PARKING GARAGE OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT SCOPE? WE HAVEN'T HAD THE NEED TO DO THAT YET.
WE HAVE THE SPACE AVAILABLE, BUT AS WE THINK DOWN THE ROAD OF WHAT THE SPACE WE HAVE TO UTILIZE, SHOULD THERE BE A NEED FOR THAT DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WOULD BE A LOGICAL POTENTIAL STEP IF WE NEEDED TO AGAIN CARVE OUT SPACE WITHIN THE CAMPUS OR THE FACILITY.
BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THE NEED TO DO THAT THUS YET.
YES, SIR. IN FACT, WE'VE GOT THERE'S AVAILABLE AGAIN, IT'S NICE THAT OUR FACILITIES PLANNERS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT WITHIN OUR CAMPUS AND THE MANY BUILDINGS WE HAVE ON THAT CAMPUS.
WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THESE CARVE OUTS TO CREATE NEW.
SO IT'S A TWO NEW EXCITING PROJECTS.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING AGAIN.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I MEAN, I DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS AGREE WITH MR WISE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU MOST TIME I DO.
BUT BUT I DO AGREE WITH HIM WHEN HE SAID HE'S NEVER BEEN EXCITED ABOUT A PROJECT AS HE IS TONIGHT.
UM, QUICKLY, YOU YOU THROW QUITE A FEW NUMBERS AT US.
YES. AS FAR AS JOBS, CURRENT JOB.
YES. AND YOU MENTIONED 72 OVERALL EMPLOYEE IN IN BREVARD.
AND 4300 IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? YES. ALL. THEY LIVE IN THE CITY OR JUST.
THAT'S THE THAT'S EMPLOYS THAT WORK AT THE CAMPUS.
I DON'T HAVE THE I DON'T HAVE THE DATA SET TO THEIR HOME ADDRESSES.
BUT THERE ARE EMPLOYEES OF PALM BAY CAMPUS.
YEAH. AND THE OTHER THE OTHER BIG PIECES OF COURSE ARE MELBOURNE AND MALABAR.
I WAS TRULY HOPING THEY WERE ALL PUBLIC.
I MEAN, PALM BAY PALM BAY RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS THINKING WITH THAT.
AND TO PIGGYBACK ON ON COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S QUESTION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, NEW ACQUISITION.
YES. YOU EVER HEARD OF THE COMPOUND? A LITTLE PLACE ON THE SOUTHWEST WHERE WE HAVE ABOUT 33,900 ACRES VACANT LAND OPEN.
AND WE WOULD LOVE TO MAYBE EXPAND IN THE SOUTHWEST AREA OF THE CITY.
SO I'M THINKING MAYBE YOU CAN BRING IT UP TO THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND SEE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I'LL HAVE MY TEAM INVESTIGATE THAT.
DEPUTY MAYOR ANY, ARE YOU COMPLETED, SIR? YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
JAKE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
YES, SIR. THIS IS BRINGING, YOU KNOW, LIFTING UP OUR CITY.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR INVESTING IN US.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
FIRST OFF, THE RIGHT, OFF THE TOP.
VERY PROUD OF WHAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
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HERE'S A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY ITS TAXES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.I UNDERSTAND THERE BEING BUSINESS AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
BUT I HAVE TO CALL IT OUT BECAUSE THEY ALREADY OWN THE LAND.
THEIR DEVELOPMENTS ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE FUNDS FOR THEM.
WHY DO THEY NEED THE TAX ABATEMENT TO TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE CITY? I ASK THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING I ADDRESSED THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE NO PLACE IN YOUR PACKET DID IT EVEN MENTION THE FACT OF TAX ABATEMENT? IF THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT THEMSELVES, NO PLACE DOES IT.
LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING.
THAT'S WHY I SEE A LITTLE BIT OF NEGATIVE WITH THIS.
WE COULD HAVE PUT THAT IN THE PACKET WHERE THIS WAS DEFINITELY BROUGHT UP.
THE PACKET WAS ALREADY 1400 PAGES LONG FOR THIS FOR THIS WEEK'S AGENDA.
WE COULD HAVE PUT ONE MORE PAGE IN THERE THAT TALKED ABOUT COMMENTS FROM PLANNING AND ZONING INSTEAD OF ONE PARAGRAPH, ONE SENTENCE THAT SAYS, YEAH, THEY AGREED IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. OKAY.
JUST THAT'S FOOD FOR THOUGHT, RIGHT? THE SECOND THING WITH THIS ONE IS.
WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THEIR PREVIOUS PROJECT.
THIS IS A NEW PROJECT AND TAX ABATEMENT NEEDS TO BE PRESENTED ACCORDINGLY AND UNDER THEIR OWN STATEMENT AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THEIR PREVIOUS ABATEMENT.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I SEE NEGATIVE WITH THIS.
THEY'RE PLANNING ON SPENDING $130 MILLION INVESTING INTO THE CITY.
THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE, THAT'S GREAT.
BUT YOU RAN ON BUSINESSES COMING TO CITY TO HELP HELP SUPPORT OUR TAX BASE.
IF YOU KEEP GIVING THE TAX ABATEMENT, WHAT DID YOU ACCOMPLISH? I AGREE. YOU ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING BECAUSE THE GROWTH IN THE CITY IS THERE, BUT THE PURPOSE OF TAX ABATEMENT FOR BUSINESS WAS LOST.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? SETH. NO.
I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND REAL QUICK, IF WE COULD.
JUST QUICKLY TO REITERATE TONIGHT, WE'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE PLAT TO BE APPROVED.
IT IS FOR TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS.
THEY ARE FOR TWO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE OF THE COMPANY'S BUSINESS.
IT'S NOT PIGGYBACKING OFF OF ANYTHING ELSE.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY PREVIOUS PROJECTS.
THESE ARE THEIR OWN NEW STANDALONE PROJECTS.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO NOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, RESPONDED AT THAT MEETING.
SO THAT BEING SAID, TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS $135 MILLION INVESTMENT 200 JOBS.
AVERAGE SALARY IS OVER $100,000.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? NO, THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
NEXT MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 22 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 183 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGULATIONS SECTION 183 .01 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SUBSECTION D ADOPTION OF FUTURE LAND USE MAP BY AMENDING THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
MY NAME IS KIM ROZANKA WITH THE LAW FIRM OF LACY LYONS ROZANKA, IN ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA.
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WITH ME IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD BOWMAN, REPRESENTED BY SHERMAN DESAI AND ALSO WITH ALBERTO KRIGER WITH ADELSON CAPITAL.THIS IS THREE HEARINGS BEFORE YOU.
THE FIRST ONE IS RELATIVELY SIMPLE, BUT YOU DO NEED TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
IT'S A 31 ACRE PROJECT, TWO PARCELS.
IT STARTS AT MALABAR ROAD, EXTENDS TO THE YELLOW AREA THAT YOU SEE THERE AND THEN GOES ALL THE WAY OVER TO BABCOCK AND THE THE ROAD THAT'S THE COURT IS INTERSTATE COURT THAT IT ABUTS INTO THIS CURRENT PARCEL.
RIGHT NOW WE REFER TO AS TRACT G TWO.
IT WAS INTENDED TO PROVIDE DRAINAGE TO QUITE A FEW PARCELS.
HOWEVER, IT'S NEVER BEEN BUILT UP PROPERLY.
IT'S NEVER BEEN DESIGNED PROPERLY.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S OPEN AND RECREATIONAL SPACE, WELL, DRAINAGE SPACE, BUT IT'S AN OPEN SPACE.
THE PARCEL TO THE NORTH IS APPROXIMATELY 24 ACRES.
AS I SAID, IT'S ABOUT 31 ACRES ALTOGETHER.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT WITH A CONSISTENT, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND A CONSISTENT ZONING TO DEVELOP THIS AS A AS A COMMERCIAL FLEX SPACE AND PROPER DRAINAGE AREA AND A HOTEL SITE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST FOCUSED ON THE 7.4, THREE ACRE REPRESENTED IN YELLOW.
AND AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A REC AND OPEN SPACE, FUTURE LAND USE.
WE'VE ASKED IT TO GO TO COMMERCIAL JUST LIKE THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PROJECT, THE 24 ACRE PROJECT.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BY THE APPLICANT AND BOWMAN.
NO ONE, NO ONE SHOWED UP AND NO ONE HAD ANY COMMENTS AT PLANNING AND ZONING.
THERE WERE NO COMMENTS EITHER IN PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.
AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. MAY I ASK ALBERTO SOMETHING? IS THIS? MR ROZANKA.
THIS IS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS HOTEL.
YES. THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE PART PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WITH THIS YELLOW IS WE'RE GOING TO BE ONCE WE REZONE IT AND CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE, THERE WILL BE A ROAD THAT GOES FROM INTERSTATE COURT TO BABCOCK.
AND THE HOTEL WILL BE RIGHT THERE IN THAT CORNER.
THAT HOTEL WILL BE PART OF THIS YELLOW NORTHERN SECTION AND PART OF THE PROPERTY ABOVE IT.
ALBERTO, DO YOU AND I KNOW THAT YOU DEAL WITH A LOT OF HOTELS, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHICH HOTEL WOULD YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO TARGET ON THIS? NO, NOT NOT FOR THIS ONE.
DO YOU KNOW? WELL, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SPACE, YOU KNOW, LIKE CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE THAT THAT WE THAT WE SHARE THAT WITH THE CITY THAT WE SHARE THAT IN THE PAST REGARDING THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FOR THAT TYPE OF SPACE.
I JUST WANTED TO TO HIGHLIGHT THAT LEVEL.
YEAH. ACTUALLY, THAT LOT IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED BY US.
THE HOTEL IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED BY A THIRD PARTY.
OKAY. SO YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE THAT ONLY THE LOT FOR THE HOTEL IS GOING TO BE SOLD OFF.
SO YOU COULD PASS THE WORD ON.
I'LL TRY TO GET THEM HERE SO YOU CAN ASK THEM YOURSELF.
I SIR, THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN.
I WOULD I HAVE TO I HAVE TO LAY THIS OUT.
THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY, BUT I JUST HAVE TO SHARE WHAT THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY IS.
RIGHT. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND AT LEAST ALLOWING ME TO SHARE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
DID YOU JUST RECENTLY GET MARRIED? SIR, I DID.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
RENTALS. WE HAVE IT IN OUR MINDS.
GOOD ENOUGH. ANY SPEAKER CARDS.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE MA'AM, DID YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN?
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ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.CONGRATULATIONS. ITEM NUMBER TEN ORDINANCE 20 2323.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM LEE LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING DISTRICT AND CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WHICH PROPERTY PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF INTERSTATE 95 AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL KIM ROZANKA, AGAIN ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND OWNER BABCOCK AND MALABAR LLC AND ADLON CAPITAL.
WITH ME IS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD BOMAN AND REPRESENTED BY TASB AND ALBERTA KRIEGER WITH ADLON CAPITAL.
I PRESENTED YOU WITH TWO DOCUMENTS.
AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND CONCEPTUAL RENDERINGS.
I APOLOGIZE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH COPIES FOR EVERYONE.
I HOPE THAT YOU ALL HAVE THEM.
AND THIS IS AGAIN TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE THE WHOLE 31 ACRES INTO A CONCISE AND CONSISTENT ZONING.
SO WE ARE ASKING FOR ZONING FROM COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE CONCEPT PLAN 5.44 ACRES OF THIS PROPERTY WILL STAY AS DRAINAGE.
SO IN ORDER TO CREATE THIS 31 ACRE DEVELOPMENT, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE CHANGE FROM COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
AND AGAIN, NO ONE SHOWED UP FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD.
WITH THAT, WE WOULD ASK THE APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 23 TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON 6.459 ACRES OF THE SUBJECT PARCEL. THANK YOU, MA'AM.
THIS. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO SEE.
WHAT WAS WHAT LED TO THE REZONING PURSUING THE REZONING? IS IT THAT WE'VE MET A THRESHOLD IN HOUSES IN THE AREA, OR ARE WE SEEING THAT THE MARKET IS SHIFTING? LIKE, CAN YOU TALK ME THROUGH THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE APPLICANT CAN TALK THROUGH OR FROM FROM MY RECOMMENDATION RECOLLECTIONS? IS THIS THIS FLEX OFFICE SPACE, THIS ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALLOWS FOR FOR MANY DIFFERENT USES THAT THE CURRENT ZONING DOESN'T. IT WILL ALLOW FOR TRADESMEN TO HAVE THEIR LITTLE OFFICES THERE.
IT WILL ALLOW FOR BUILDING SERVICES, CONTRACTORS, OFFICES, WHOLESALE TRADE LABORATORIES AND THINGS THAT AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE IN THE THE EXISTING ZONING OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S A FUTURE EXPANSION, ASSUMING WE GET THE THE CHANGE IN ZONING, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THE WEST PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY HAS THE DIFFERENT ZONING ON IT, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE CONSISTENT.
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IT HAS THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL WHERE WE'D LIKE TO MAKE IT ALL GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW FOR THE FLEXIBILITY OF THESE TYPE OF FLEX SPACES.THEY'RE CALLING IT ADD ON FLEX.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. YEAH. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTION, MAYOR.
DEPUTY MAYOR. JUST THE APPLICANT.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ORDINANCE 20 2324 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY SOUTH OF MALABAR ROAD, EAST OF INTERCHANGE 95 AND WEST OF BABCOCK STREET, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
WITH ME IS SHUBMAN DESAI FROM BOWMAN AND ALBERTA KRIGER WITH ADELON CAPITAL.
THIS IS THE THIRD ITEM BEFORE YOU ON THIS SAME PROJECT.
THE IDEA IS TO MAKE THIS A CONSISTENT ZONING OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW THE FLEX SPACE OF 200,000FT², PLUS A RETAIL BUILDING ON MALABAR ROAD OF 14,000FT² TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE RETENTION FOR THIS 31 ACRE PROJECT AND TO ALSO FIX THE THE DRAINAGE TRACT ON G TWO, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTH THERE. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT PLANNING AND ZONING, BUT JUST AS TO WHAT WAS PLANNED TO BE THERE AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID AGREE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL UNANIMOUSLY.
AND THERE WAS ALSO A COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE NO ONE SHOWED REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
IT'S INTENDED TO HAVE A CUT THROUGH TO INTERSTATE COURT TO ALLOW THE HOTEL SITE TO USE IT AS WELL, AND ALSO TO ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED NOT TO COME ALL FROM MALABAR ROAD.
SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD REQUEST APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 20 2324 FOR THE REZONING OF THE 11.66 ACRES.
AGAIN, PART OF THE 22.75 ACRE PARCEL AND THE 31 ACRE ENTIRE COMPLEX.
AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANY COMMENTS FOR STAFF? NO, THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY.
DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY SPEAKER? CARDS. OKAY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 170.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO ASK OR I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MS..
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. HER STAFF COMMENTS? YES. JUST BRIEFLY, THIS IS A CHANGE TO OUR BUILDING CODE TO REFLECT CHANGES TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
JUST REALLY ADMINISTRATIVE CLEAN UP.
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COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MS..
SHERMAN PRESENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
WHEN THE BIDS WENT OUT, THE THAT WE DETERMINED THAT THE COSTS WERE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED AND THEN THE TIME FRAME FOR DELIVERY WAS BEYOND OUR AUGUST 1ST TIMELINE DEADLINE.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE THE BUDGET BY $301,000.
WE WERE WE ADDED A NEW ACTIVITY, WHICH IS THE PURCHASE OF FIRE EQUIPMENT, FUNDING FOR FIRE EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE AN AIR TRAILER, BRUSH TRUCK, VEHICLE, RADIO AND AIR PACK BOTTLES.
AND WE'RE ADDING $300,000 TO THAT BUDGET.
THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE IN BUDGET OF $1,000 FOR THE NEW BENCHES AT LIBERIA PARK.
NUMBER FOUR IS THROUGH PUBLIC SERVICES.
WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE THEIR CONTRACT FOR THAT AMOUNT AND ADD A NEW ITEM FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.
THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, CRIME AWARENESS AND PREVENTION PROGRAM FOR 38,408.
AS OF TODAY, THERE HAS BEEN NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MISS NANCY. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK REGARDING THIS.
THANK YOU. ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE AIR TANK TRAILERS AND SUCH.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.
SECOND. I HAVE TO BEAT COUNCILMAN FELIX EVERY NOW AND THEN.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
YES, MAYOR. DIDN'T WE? EXCUSE ME? DIDN'T WE MOVE UP THE PROCUREMENT CAMPGROUND ITEM? I BELIEVE BEFORE CONSENT, SIR.
DID WE MOVE IT UP? AS YOU WERE. BEFORE CONSENT? YES, SIR. AS YOU WERE, MA'AM.
OKAY. SO THAT IS. PROCUREMENT, NUMBER ONE.
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THIS WILL BE A NICE ONE.EXCUSE ME, ON THE REGIONAL PARK CAMPGROUND.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING.
I WILL BE JOINED UP HERE BY MATTHEW GILLESPIE.
HE IS OUR CONSULTANT FROM KIMLEY-HORN.
WE HAVE A $1.7 MILLION TDC GRANT THAT WAS AWARDED IN 2018.
THE SCOPE OF THE GRANT IS VERY BRIEF.
IT'S ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA PACKET AND ACTUALLY SAYS PROVIDE AN RV CAMPGROUND AND RENOVATE THE NATURE CENTER AT PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK NATURE CENTER DOESN'T HAVE A DEFINITION.
UP UNTIL FEBRUARY OF 2023, WE WERE ASSUMING THAT THAT MEANT A BUILDING.
WE ACTUALLY GOT CLARIFICATION FROM THE TDC RECENTLY THAT A NATURE CENTER CAN BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS TRAILS WITH SIGNAGE TO IDENTIFY THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT IN THE PARK LIKE A HORSE TRAIL.
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DID YOU SAY? I DIDN'T SAY MASTER CHIEF BATTEN WOULD LOVE SOMETHING LIKE A HORSE.CARRY ON. SO OUR CURRENT GRANT EXPIRES IN SEPTEMBER OF 2024.
HOWEVER, WE CAN ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.
I DID CLARIFY THAT WITH THE TDC.
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SOME TIME, SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE AND AN OVERVIEW.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE TABLE IN DETAIL, BUT JUST A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.
WE ACTUALLY DID COMMIT IMPACT FEES AND START THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO THE GRANT APPLICATION.
GRANTS ARE OFTEN MORE SUCCESSFUL WHEN YOU HAVE SHELF READY PLANS IN HAND.
THE GRANT WAS ACTUALLY EXECUTED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2018.
SO WE DID PERFORM A GROUNDBREAKING IN OCTOBER OF 2019.
WE REMOVED ABOUT 150 TREE SPECIES, MAINLY WITH STAFF AND RENTED EQUIPMENT.
IN 2020, DURING THE PANDEMIC, OBVIOUSLY WE FACED A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
AND AT THAT POINT WE CONSULTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE ALSO CONSULTED WITH FRED SPRINGER, AN OUTSIDE LEGAL CONSULTANT, WHO CONFIRMED WE COULD NO LONGER USE OUR CONTINUING CONTRACTS.
SO WE WENT OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
THE IDEA INITIALLY WAS TO CREATE A MASTER SITE PLAN.
AND TO THAT END, WE DO HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A MASTER SITE PLAN.
IT HAS MANY, MANY ELEMENTS ON IT THAT WE KNOW ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN BUDGET.
WE WERE USING OUR CONTINUING CONTRACTS UP UNTIL $2 MILLION BECAUSE AT THE TIME THAT WAS THE FLORIDA STATUTE ON WHEN YOU COULD USE CONTINUING ENGINEERING CONTRACTS VERSUS GOING OUT.
SO THAT WE HIT A ROADBLOCK BASICALLY IN 2019 WHEN WE EXCEEDED $2 MILLION.
BUT GREAT NEWS. THE LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURE INCREASED THAT THRESHOLD TO $4 MILLION.
AND WE WENT BACK TO OUR CONTINUING CONTRACTS TO CONTINUE THE DESIGN.
BUT NOW WE'RE OVER $4 MILLION, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'VE KIND OF STOPPED.
I DO THINK AND I'M SURE OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR WHO I KNOW IS WATCHING, WOULD AGREE THAT HAVING ONE CONSULTANT WITH EXPERTISE IN CAMPGROUNDS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WAY TO GO.
AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE TONIGHT THAT THEY BRING A LOT TO THE TABLE.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF MISSING ELEMENTS TO INCLUDE THE ELECTRICAL PLAN.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO AT LEAST MOVE THE CAMPGROUND ENTRANCE BACK, AMONG SOME OTHER THINGS.
HERE'S KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THE PLANS THAT WE DO HAVE.
WE DO HAVE AN OVERALL CIVIL DESIGN, BUT I REALLY WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN.
WE NEED FULL SITE ELECTRICAL DESIGN.
WE NEED SOME KIND OF ELEMENT OF A NATURE CENTER, WHETHER THAT'S JUST SIGNAGE.
WE NEED ROADWAY ENTRANCE IMPROVEMENTS.
IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO HOLD THE WEIGHT OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES AND THE TURNING RADIUS COMING OUT OF THE PARK ONTO MALABAR ROAD IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE RECREATIONAL VEHICLES.
AND WE'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY ENGINEER ON THAT AND GOT SOME COST ESTIMATES.
WE DO HAVE A GOOD NEWS ON THE RESTROOMS, ACTUALLY THE RESTROOMS ON SITE BECAUSE THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR PRIMITIVE CAMPING BY THE SCOUTS ARE TO HEALTH DEPARTMENT CODE IN THE QUANTITY OF RESTROOMS AND SHOWERS THAT WE NEED.
SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS THERE.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO IMPROVE IS CHANGING THE SITES TO PULL THROUGH SITES AS OPPOSED TO BACK END SITES, WHICH MATTHEW IS GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
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ENGINEERING. PRIMARILY ENGINEERING.THAT WAS DONE BEFORE WE EVEN APPLIED FOR THE GRANT AWARD.
OKAY. WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF UNENCUMBERED ENGINEERING WORK FOR THE ELECTRICAL PLANS.
WE HAVE THE COST OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE AT $49,000 IN REIMBURSEMENT, SO WE ARE WAITING TONIGHT'S COUNCIL ACTION.
ALL TOLD, THE CURRENT BUDGET IS ABOUT 3.2 MILLION.
ABOUT $1 MILLION IS FROM IMPACT FEES, BOTH 32907 AND 32908 NEXUS.
THE PURPOSE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND WHY WE STARTED THERE IS BECAUSE THE LAST COUNCIL ACTION YOU ALL TOOK WAS IN COUNCIL TOOK, I SHOULD SAY, WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2020. AND AT THAT TIME STAFF PRESENTED THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING 138 PEDESTAL HOOKUPS.
WE WOULD BE DOING ALL THE SITE WORK, ROADWAY CLEARING, STORM SYSTEM SIGNAGE, HYDRO SEEING, ELECTRICAL PLANS AND THE NATURE CENTER FOR THE BUDGET THAT WE REQUESTED OF $3.2 MILLION.
THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO AND WE HAVE GONE THROUGH QUITE A BIT GLOBALLY IN THAT TIME.
SO WHAT WE REALLY WANTED TO ANALYZE IS WHAT CAN WE DO FOR THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW? IS THAT A TRUE ESTIMATE OF THE SCOPE? AND ALSO, HOW HAS THE MARKET CHANGED? YOU ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PRIVATE RV PARK THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON MALABAR ROAD, SO WE WANTED TO HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF THAT.
ONE THING THAT KIMLEY-HORN WAS NOT A REQUEST TO ANALYZE WAS THE COST OF A NATURE CENTER.
SO WE WORKED ON A CONSTRUCTION BUDGET OF $2.7 MILLION.
FOR THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MATTHEW.
THANK YOU. I'M MATTHEW GILLESPIE WITH KIMLEY-HORN 109 SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE, ORLANDO, FLORIDA.
32801. SO I SAID WE WERE CONTRACTED TO DO A FEASIBILITY STUDY BECAUSE THERE IS CONCERNS WITH THE NUMBER OF CAMPSITES THAT COULD BE BUILT WITH THE MONEY THAT THE CITY HAD IN THE GRANT FUND AND THE TOTAL $3.2 MILLION.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE ACTUALLY WENT AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OTHER AREAS.
WE LOOKED AT LOCAL AREA ANALYSIS, THE MARKET ANALYSIS.
WE LOOKED AT WHAT CAMPGROUNDS IN THE AREA, WE LOOKED AT WHAT THEIR AVERAGE RENTAL RATES ARE, WHAT AMENITIES DO THEY OFFER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CAPACITIES, WHAT, WHAT OCCUPANCIES ARE THEY ACTUALLY SEEING FOR OCCUPANCY RATES? SO ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS GO INTO BASICALLY DOING AN ASSESSMENT TO DETERMINE WHAT PLACE YOU COULD POSITION, YOU KNOW, DOING AN RV PARK AT THE CAMPGROUND. SO AT THE PARK.
AND WHAT WE WHAT WE RESULTED WITH IS THAT BASICALLY OUT OF THE OUTCOME, 138 SITES WAS WAS WELL BEYOND THE THE BUDGET OF THE $2.7 MILLION. WE WE KNEW THAT GOING INTO IT.
WE WE ADVERTISED THAT THE LOCAL AREA PREDOMINANTLY IS ALL BACK END SITES MEANING YOU DRIVE INTO THIS CAMPGROUND, YOU PUT IT IN REVERSE, YOU HAVE TO BACK YOUR TRAILER INTO THE CAMPSITES.
THERE'S MULTIPLE DIFFERENT TYPES.
THE AVERAGE AGE OF CAMPING DROPPED TEN YEARS IN THAT TIME PERIOD.
THEY RENT FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY, THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE DESIRABLE.
AND CURRENTLY IN THE AREA, THERE'S ONLY 33 OF THE 1700 SITES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE PULL THRUS.
SO BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, WE WERE BASICALLY RECOMMEND PULL THRUS INSTEAD OF THE BACK ENDS THAT ARE IN THE PLANS TODAY THAT WERE PREPARED UP TO THIS POINT. CURRENT AVERAGE RENTAL RATES IN THE AREA IS ABOUT $61 A NIGHT FOR THE OFF SEASON OR EXCUSE ME,
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$61 A NIGHT.AND THAT'S FOR TRADITIONAL BACK ENDS.
USUALLY AN OCCUPANCY ABOUT 81% TO ABOUT 93% IN PEAK SEASON.
SO EVERYBODY COMES TO THE BEACH, EVERYBODY VACATIONS.
WE GET SNOWBIRDS TO COME DOWN.
THERE'S THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF CAMPGROUNDS THAT ARE THE SHORT COUPLE DAY STAYS.
THEN WE HAVE THE SNOWBIRDS THAT ARE LONG TERM STAYS.
YOU'LL SEE A LOWER DAILY RATES FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SNOWBIRDS MORE LONGER ANNUAL STAYS.
THEY GET THE DISCOUNT FOR STAYING LONGER.
SO WE KIND OF SET OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT APART.
SO A $2.7 MILLION, WE APPROXIMATE ROUGHLY 45 SITES CAN ONLY BE BUILT.
THAT'S BASED ON CURRENT DOLLAR VALUES FOR FOR REFERENCE, THAT'S ABOUT $57,000 A SITE TO BE BUILT.
SO WE'VE SEEN A 50% INCREASE IN THE COST TO BUILD THE SAME SITE THREE YEARS LATER.
SO THE AVERAGE NIGHT RENTALS FOR PULL THRUS AGAIN HIGHER.
SO KIND OF PROJECTING ABOUT $75 PER NIGHT WHEN THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 61 FOR BACKENDS, TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT TRENDS AND THE COSTS RUNNING UP YOU KNOW TRADITIONAL BACK ENDS 55 K PULL THROUGH IS 57 $60,000 ROUGHLY.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SO ESTIMATED ABOUT 2.6 MILLION TO BUILD 45 PULL THROUGH SITES.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THOSE HERE, SO YOU'RE NOT HAVING TO INVEST MONEY INTO BUILDING THE AMENITIES.
SO NOT INCLUDED, AS STATED BY JULIETTE EARLIER, WAS THERE'S PARK ENTRANCE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, TURNING RADIUS UPGRADES TO ACCOMMODATE FOR 45 FOOT LONG CAMPERS TRAVEL TRAILERS THOSE.
DOLLAR FIGURES WERE PROVIDED BY THE CITY STAFF.
THERE ARE SOME UTILITY AGREEMENT FEES THAT PREVIOUSLY WERE ON THE BOOKS THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
SO THE ALTERNATIVE IS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU BUILD THAT ENTRANCE AS SHOWN? DO YOU REDO AND CONNECT TO THE INTERNAL ROADWAY NETWORKS? THOSE TYPE OF STUDIES HAVE TO BE DONE.
UM, SO ROUGH ORDER TIMELINE OF CONSTRUCTION.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MONTH TO DO 45 SITES FOR SURVEYING, CONCEPT PLANNING, ADDITIONAL STUDIES, 10 TO 12 MONTHS CONSTRUCTION TIME PERIOD FOR A PARK OF THAT SIZE AND THEN CLOSE OUTS AND EVERYTHING 16 TO 18 MONTHS ROUGHLY FROM START OF CONTRACT TO OPENING DATE.
SO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THROUGH IT.
SO TO THE POINT THE EXTENSION OF THE GRANT WOULD BE REQUIRED BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT MEET THAT DATE.
UM, AND THEN OPERATIONAL PERSONNEL COSTS THAT GO WITH THIS.
SO PREVIOUSLY THE BUSINESS PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED WHEN THIS PROGRAM WAS FIRST PROPOSED IT.
IT OVERALL, I'M GOING TO JUMP TO THE BOTTOM.
IT SHOWED A NET REVENUE FOR THE CITY, EVEN WITH OPERATIONAL COSTS.
BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO NOTE IN THERE.
ONE, THERE WERE NO PERSONNEL COSTS FACTORED IN AT THE TIME.
THE ASSUMPTION WAS THAT CURRENT STAFFING COULD HANDLE THE OPERATION OF THE PARK.
TALKING TO STAFF NOW AND ANALYZING JUST THE THE SHEER VOLUME OF WORK THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY.
AND REMEMBER, THIS WAS BEFORE WE ACQUIRED OR RIGHT AROUND THE TIME WE ACQUIRED THE SENIOR CENTER, PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK AND THE AQUATIC CENTER.
AND GOING FROM THE OPERATION WE HAVE NOW TO A 24 OVER SEVEN OPERATION.
IT ALSO DIDN'T INCLUDE NIGHTTIME CONTRACTED NIGHTTIME SECURITY.
IT'S JUST GENERALLY A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SECURITY THERE IN THE EVENING.
IT'S MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO CONTRACT THAT OUT.
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$15,000 A YEAR IN JUST GENERAL RETAIL FROM HAVING A CAMP STORE, THAT KIND OF THING.SO THAT SHOWED A NET POSITIVE REVENUE.
AND I'VE PUT THOSE FIGURES UP THERE THAT WERE PRESENTED BACK IN, I BELIEVE, 2017 OR 18.
SO WHAT I ASKED STAFF TO DO WAS TO TELL ME WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO OPERATE THE CAMPGROUND, BOTH FROM A FACILITY STANDPOINT AND ALSO A RECREATION STANDPOINT.
SO THEY KIND OF GAVE ME THAT COLUMN ON THE FAR RIGHT FULL STAFFING.
SO THEN WE PARED THAT DOWN TO A MODERATE AND A CONSERVATIVE.
I'M SHOWING YOU THE DOLLAR FIGURES AND THE FTES IN THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN I ALSO USED THE SAME SPREADSHEET THAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAD PRESENTED IN 2017 2018 TIME FRAME AND ADDED THOSE NUMBERS IN AS WELL. SOME OF THE OTHER ASSUMPTIONS IN THE ORIGINAL BUSINESS PLAN HAD LOWER OCCUPANCY THAN WHAT THE FEASIBILITY SHOWS WE COULD OBTAIN, AND I'VE LISTED THOSE VARIATIONS IN THERE.
IT ALSO SHOWED, AS I MENTIONED, AN AVERAGE RENTAL OF $30 A NIGHT.
I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, THOUGH, BRIAN, I HOPE I DO THIS RIGHT.
THE HIGHEST RATE IS A SEASONAL RATE FOR OUT-OF-COUNTY RESIDENTS OF $44.
SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE MARKET.
YES. ARE WE ARE WE COMPARING OURSELVES TO OTHER GOVERNMENT RUN CAMPSITES OR ARE WE COMPARING OURSELVES TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR? SO THE SUMMARY OF THE BUSINESS PLAN IS THERE'S A I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, MA'AM.
WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE CAPACITY? ARE THEY A CAPACITY? A LONG POINT. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
YES, JUST TO SEE THOSE SEASONAL FIGURES, ANYWAY.
THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS TO WHAT A BUSINESS PLAN COULD LOOK LIKE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE ON ON WHAT THAT COULD BE.
I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH I DO BELIEVE THE GENERAL FUND WOULD HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THE OPERATION OF THE CAMPGROUND, AT LEAST INITIALLY, AT LEAST THEORETICALLY, ON THE DATA THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF US, THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL.
PARKS AND RECREATION IS NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, AND IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
SO I DID WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
ALSO, MATTHEW GAVE ME SOME REALLY GOOD INFORMATION.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK REALLY QUICKLY TO THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
WHAT I ASKED HIM TO DO WAS LOOK AT.
WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BUILD 130 SITES JUST SO WE WOULD HAVE THAT FIGURE.
AND HE PROVIDED THAT TO ME THIS AFTERNOON.
IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE UTILITY AGREEMENT FEES.
AND IF YOU WANTED THAT SECOND ENTRANCE, IT WOULD NOT INCLUDE THE SECOND ENTRANCE.
I ALSO ASKED HIM TO LOOK AT THE CONSERVATIVE STAFFING AND THROUGH THEIR ANALYSIS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS, FOR EXAMPLE, BUT THEY'RE USING MARKET RATES AND THE DATA THEY HAVE WHAT WOULD BE A BREAK EVEN FOR OUR CONSERVATIVE STAFFING, AND THAT WOULD BE 82 SITES, 82 SITES IS $4.3 MILLION.
AND IT'S NOT INCLUDING UTILITY ASSESSMENT FEES AND OF COURSE, NOT THE BRIDGE.
SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A TOUGH QUESTION.
THE MOTION IN THE AGENDA IS FOR YOU TO AUTHORIZE US TO NEGOTIATE A TASK ORDER WITH KIMLEY-HORN.
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AND I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE WELL POSITIONED TO DO THAT.THEY HAVE FULL ACCESS TO ALL THE PLANS THAT WE DID PAY FOR DESIGN AND OWN, AND WE COULD NEGOTIATE A TASK ORDER WHICH WOULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL FOR APPROVAL AND MOVE FORWARD WITH DESIGN.
OUTSIDE OF THAT, OTHER OPTIONS ARE MORE COMPLICATED.
I DID SPEAK TO PETER CRANNIS FROM THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AT LENGTH ANY MODIFICATION TO THE GRANT AS WRITTEN, WHICH IS AN RV CAMPGROUND IN NATURE CENTER, WOULD REQUIRE A COMPLETE NEW APPLICATION THROUGH THE CAPITAL FACILITIES GRANT SUBCOMMITTEE, THE TDC AND BREVARD COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
AS WE KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT THE TDC SHOULD BE USING THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT TAX DOLLARS FOR, INCLUDING BEACH RENOURISHMENT, THE LAGOON AND LIFEGUARDS.
ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT AT BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND TDC MEETINGS.
MA'AM, RIGHT ALONG, RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN.
IS IT THE SAME? DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS THAT'S NOT GUARANTEED? IS THAT CORRECT? I EXTENSION.
SO WE WOULD ASSUME, NO, THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THOSE CHANNELS.
WE CAN, OF COURSE, CONSIDER OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING MISS YOUNG BROWN'S PRAISES ALL EVENING ABOUT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
THERE AREN'T AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE GENERATING PUBLIC FACILITIES AS THERE ARE FOR ONES THAT ARE FREE TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER PARKS.
IMPACT FEES I'VE PROVIDED FOR YOU ON THE SCREEN.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO CANCEL THE PROJECT, RETURN THE IMPACT FEES TO THE RATIONAL NEXUS OF EACH ZIP CODE AND EXPLORE OTHER PROJECTS. WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING A BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN.
AS WE FINISH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RISK ASSESSMENT, OUR COMP PLAN, IT FITS RIGHT IN.
AND WE ARE BOTH AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
COUNCILMAN. WELL, I YIELD TO YOU.
YOU'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL WAY BEFORE WHEN WHEN THE GRANT APPLICATION WENT THROUGH AND SO ON.
YES, SIR. YEAH. YOUR TAKE? YEAH. THE AWARDING WAS PRIOR TO ME BEING ON COUNCIL, BUT ONCE I PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MEETINGS WHILE I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE AND UP UNTIL I GOT ON COUNCIL, THE MAIN THING, THE MAIN THING THAT GOT ME ON BOARD WITH IT WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS SHOWN THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE GENERATING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REVENUE WHERE PARKS AND RECREATION TYPICALLY DOESN'T SEEING SEEING THESE NUMBERS NOW.
UM, AND THE 1.6 NOW WITH INFLATION, THAT'S LIKE 1.2, $1.3 MILLION RIGHT THERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE, WE PUT UP PARKING FEE, ADDITIONAL PARK IMPACT FEE MONEY AND GO TO THE COUNTY AS WELL AS TDC SAYING LIKE, HEY, WE'RE WILLING TO PUT UP MORE.
IT'S FRUSTRATING. IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR SIX YEARS NOW.
BUT WHAT I DO APPRECIATE IS STAFF, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THREE OTHERS.
WE'VE HAD THREE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS SINCE.
SO I DO APPRECIATE STAFF INSTEAD OF JUST GOING IN BLINDLY DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOKING INTO THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH I DON'T THINK YOU SAID THE RATE, BUT IF YOU COULD DISCLOSE THE RATE OF HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST IN REGARDS TO THAT TURN, IT WAS, I BELIEVE, 500,000 TO 900,000.
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OH, YES, SORRY, 575,000 TO JUST UNDER $1 MILLION TO DO THE ENTRANCE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND WIDEN THE BIRTH OF THE EXIT ONTO MALABAR ROAD.AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE 6.6 YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.
IT IS NOT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY 7.5.
SO I MAYOR, I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE I HAVE THE ANSWERS TO THIS ONE.
SO NOW THE FEASIBILITY, I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.
THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WAS CRITICAL AND AND YOU GOT TO COMMEND OUR STAFF FOR THAT.
WE'RE IN A WE'RE BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE, RIGHT? ON ONE HAND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AND I LIKE IN THE STUDY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT FOR THE 138 LOTS.
RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING OUT FOR THE 45.
AND WHAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE IS THOSE PULL THRUS AT A HIGHER RATE.
AND THUS MY QUESTION BASED ON THE CAPACITY OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS, THE OTHER PARKS, WE ARE BUILDING THIS WHOLE AREA OUT, AS YOU KNOW, HERE'S HERE'S MY MY QUESTION OR REALLY, IT'S NOT A QUESTION.
WE WE WERE GRANTED $1.7 MILLION.
I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE SKIN IN THE GAME.
CAN YOU UP THE ANTE? I CAN HONESTLY TELL YOU I DO NOT SEE THIS TDC.
AND EVEN MOREOVER, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS UPPING THAT ANTE.
SO THE QUESTION IN MY EYES THAT I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH THIS IS ON ONE HAND, DO WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH AS AN INVESTMENT OR ON THE OTHER HAND, WE SURRENDER THE $1.7 MILLION NOW WITH SURRENDERING $1.7 MILLION. GENTLEMEN, IT GIVES US A BAD REPUTATION.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING WITH IN THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY COULDN'T COME.
NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF STRUGGLES.
WE GOT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES TO CREATE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE ROADWAY AND THE ENTRANCE.
IT IS A IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH DECISION WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, GENTLEMEN.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. MISS MOSCONI, WOULD YOU? I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL UNTIL 20, BUT I'M VERY AWARE OF THE PROJECT.
WHAT'S WHAT'S THE ROOT CAUSE THAT THAT BRING US HERE TODAY? I MEAN, I KNOW COVID OBVIOUSLY.
WAS IT ALL ABOUT COVID? WHAT? WHERE DOES IT STOP? WHAT HAPPENED? THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
I BELIEVE THAT THE INTENT WAS GOOD TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN LARGER THAN WE COULD AFFORD TO DO, KNOWING THAT WE WOULD PHASE IT.
AND THAT, I BELIEVE, WAS TRULY AN ADMIRABLE INTENTION BY STAFF.
THEY WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF CAMPGROUND OPERATION EXPERIENCE ON STAFF, AND THEY BROUGHT THAT TO OUR CITY, WHICH WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO HAVE.
ONE, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT A MASTER PLAN AND YOU START ADDING EVERYTHING YOU COULD EVER WANT IN THE FUTURE, AT A CERTAIN POINT THERE'S A COST TO DESIGN THAT, INCLUDING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO GET TO THOSE FUTURE SITES.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BRIDGE AND A RANGER STATION AND THINGS THAT WE KNEW WE COULD NOT AFFORD IN THE INITIAL PHASE TO RUN UTILITIES, IS THERE THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT WE WE TOOK A GREAT HIT WITH COVID.
I MEAN, THE TIMING WAS VERY, VERY POOR.
AND SINCE THEN, ON TOP OF COVID, THESE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING AND SEEING ARE, YOU KNOW, TRULY IN SOME WAYS UNPRECEDENTED. I THINK IT WAS A COMBINATION OF FACTORS.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I FIGURED THAT MUCH.
FROM 138 IF YOU DO THE MATH, YOU DIVIDE THAT BY THREE.
THAT'S ONE. SO THE RECOMMENDATION NOW IT'S FOR ONE THIRD OF WHAT THE ORIGINAL.
AND. SO IF WE GO HALF WAY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OVER 4 MILLION, NOT CORRECT.
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SO 82 SITES IS AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE, I'M ACTUALLY READING OFF OF MATT'S EMAIL, CLOSE TO 7 MILLION. IF IT'S 6.7, IF WE GO WITH HALF.WELL I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THE 82 FOUR.
YEAH. 4 MILLION BASICALLY ABOUT PRETTY DANG CLOSE.
ABOUT $4 MILLION FOR 82 SITES.
NOW THAT'S AT CURRENT PRICES TODAY AND THAT'S WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT MAY BE A YEAR FROM NOW TIME WE DO ALL PERMITS AND I SEE THE GLASS HALF FULL.
I'M BY NATURE THAT KIND OF GUY.
SO HOPEFULLY THINGS WILL SETTLE.
YEAH. WITH INTEREST RATE AND ALL.
AND SO YEAH I, I'M JUST JUST REAL QUICK SO, SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE 3.2 RIGHT THAT THAT WAS THE BUDGET.
3.2, PLUS THE 1.7 FROM THE TDC.
AND THE 3.2 WE HAD ASSUMED WE TOOK HALF A MILLION 500,000 OUT OF THAT FUND.
AND YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC WHEN YOU SAY WE'VE TAKEN OUT HALF $1 MILLION OUT OF THAT 3.2 MILLION TO COUNT FOR DESIGNS, PERMITTING ENGINEERING, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE FACILITY.
SO THERE'S 2.7 MILLION OF CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS AVAILABLE.
OKAY. WELL WITH THAT SAID, THERE'S THE FUNDING IS IS DEFINITELY A CHALLENGE.
AND I KNOW ONE OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AT MRS SHERMAN PARTICULARLY WAS AS FAR AS OUR IMPACT FEES WITHIN THOSE, THOSE TWO UM, ZIP CODE, HOW HEALTHY THEY ARE, HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE SOME OF THOSE? I MEAN MY, MY INSTEAD OF GOING WITH 45.
TO ME, THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD, IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS PROJECT ALIVE, HOW CAN WE POSSIBLY AT LEAST DO 82? UM, AND WHICH STILL WOULD BE VIABLE BASED ON THE LATEST REPORT, I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON THE PARK AND RECREATION BOARD.
WE HAD AMPLE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT WITH THE DIRECTOR, MR PAPI, AND, AND I KNOW HE WAS VERY, VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS PROJECT. IN FACT, HAVING RELATIONSHIP WITH WICKHAM PARK, HE KNEW THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE GREAT FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF A REVENUE GENERATED PROJECT BECAUSE WE HAD COMMITMENT EVEN BEFORE THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, EVEN WAS TALKING ABOUT BEING TALKED ABOUT.
WE HAD COMMITMENT ALREADY FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIVE WICKHAM PARK TO COME TO PALM BAY SHOULD THE MISSION SO THAT THAT WHERE I'M AT, I MEAN I'D LOVE TO KEEP IT ALIVE.
I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THAT.
IT'S A DIFFERENT ASPECT WITH WHAT WE HAVE OUT WEST PARK OUT THERE AND WITH BASS PRO WAS CONVERSATION WITH BASS PRO HAVING A POTENTIAL RETAIL SHOP OUT THERE.
I KNOW THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF STILL CURRENTLY IN THE CONVERSATION, I'D SAY IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD, LET'S LEAN TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, INCREASE IT BY BY 82 AND, YOU KNOW, WORK, WORK OUT, YOU KNOW, WORK IT OUT FROM FROM THIS END.
WELL, THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WITH THE 45 SITES, RIGHT.
IF YOU START, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BUSINESS PLAN SUMMARY, RIGHT? 45 TO START WITH THE RENTAL OF 55.
RIGHT. BUT HERE'S HERE'S AND I KNOW YOU WANT TO GO 82 IF WE DID THE 45 AS AN EXAMPLE.
IT WOULD STILL CLEAR OUT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY OF WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAYING.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE COULD ADD ON THOSE AS WE CONTINUE TO GO ON UP TO PHASE IT IN.
IN OTHER WORDS, 45 AND THEN HAVE IT DESIGNED WHERE WE COULD ADD ON? YEAH. THE THE CURRENT PLANS THAT NEED REVISING, THERE ALREADY WAS OVER 130 SPOTS PLANNED FOR, SO IT EASILY COULD BE THE NEW PLANS UPDATED REVISED TO CURRENT TRENDS PULL THRUS.
NOW THE THEY WERE BACK IN SPOTS SO WE HAVE A PULL THROUGH IS LONGER SO WE HAVE TO RE MASTER PLAN TO SEE HOW MANY CAN WE GET TO AT PULL THRUS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NORMALLY BACK INS.
YOU GET 6 TO 8 SITES PER ACRE.
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SO WE MAY NOT HAVE 80.WELL, 80 IS PROBABLY FINE, BUT MAYBE NOT 130.
130 IS PROBABLY A STRETCH IS HONESTLY.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE HOW THAT SHAKES OUT.
BUT MR. MAYOR, TO YOUR QUESTION, WHICH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST CAMPGROUND OWNERS, THEY PUBLISH A NATIONAL STUDY.
THE CAMPGROUNDS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA ARE OVER 80% OCCUPIED.
SO IT SHOWS A DEMAND FOR SOME MORE SITES TO BE BUILT IN THE AREA.
AND THEN THE FACT THAT THERE'S NO PULL THRUS IS ANOTHER DEMAND THAT'S FALLING VERY SHORT.
YEAH. AND THAT THAT TREND CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
YEAH. THE AGE TREND IS GOING DOWN.
YOU KNOW, THE 50 IT USED TO BE 57, NOW IT'S DROPPED TO ABOUT 45.
BUT THERE'S EVEN YOUNGER GENERATIONS NOW USE IT MORE MY AGE FOR IT.
SO PEOPLE STARTED GETTING OUT AND EXPLORING THE OUTDOORS BECAUSE IT'S ALL YOU COULD DO.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE NEW TREND OF PEOPLE WANTING TO GO CAMPING MORE THAN WHAT THERE'S EVER BEEN.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY EVERYTHING'S TRENDING UPWARD.
AND WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS PARK HAVING ALL THE AMENITIES, HAVING, YOU KNOW, TOURNAMENTS, EVENTS, REGIONAL THINGS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY IN THE HOTELS. NOW THEY CAN STAY ON PROPERTY, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR KIDS, YOU CAN WALK TO THE GAMES.
YOU KNOW, IT PROVIDES ANOTHER VENUE, ANOTHER AMENITY THAT NO ONE ELSE REALLY HAS THAT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, YOU'LL BE COMPETING WITH PEOPLE ON THE BEACH, BUT YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE FOR FAMILY EVENTS.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, YES, YES.
MAYOR, THANK YOU. TO TWO QUESTIONS.
MHM. SAY WE GO WITH THE 45 AND THEN, YES, THIS PLAN, WE CAN PLAN AHEAD FOR 80.
THE COSTS CAN STILL INCREASE BY THEN OR GO DOWN LIKE IT CAN.
YEAH. I MEAN, NO ONE CONTROLS THE MARKET.
SO I MEAN, CERTAIN MATERIAL PRICES ARE COMING DOWN NOW THAN WHAT THEY USED TO BE.
BUT THEN OTHER THINGS ARE HIGH.
BUT PVC IS STARTING TO GO DOWN WOOD PRICES.
SO IT'S IT'S VOLATILE, BUT WE UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T CONTROL IT.
GO AHEAD, COUNCIL. I'M JUST THINKING.
BUT WHAT I'M HEARING IS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE.
ARE CAMPING. WHAT I'M ALSO SEEING IS A LOT MORE CAMPERS, THOSE PULL THRUS OUT ON THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
SO WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO? I LOVED HOW HE MIXED IN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A GREAT BASEBALL FACILITY AT PALM AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.
AND AND, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD TIE IN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A TOURNAMENT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS FROM FROM RIGHT NOW WHERE WE ARE ECONOMICALLY WITH THE CHAIN, THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND ALL OF THAT, I THINK WE WOULD DO AN UNJUSTICE IN TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION WITH THIS.
I THINK WE HAVE TO THINK DOWNRANGE GNAGE YES, THE PRICE MAY GO UP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME I SEE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO BE.
AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO REAP SOME BENEFITS OUT OF IT AS WELL.
ALL THE WHILE PROVIDING A FACILITY FOR OTHERS TO CAMP.
AND PART OF WHY I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GREAT IDEA IS.
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I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE TO MARKETING PALM BAY AND WHERE AM I GOING WITH THAT? I REMEMBER WE USED TO DO BOXING TOURNAMENTS WITH TELEMUNDO, TELEMUNDO, BOXING, AND AS AN EXAMPLE, THEY HAD AND I REMEMBER THIS WAS OVER 26 LATIN AMERICAN COUNTRIES.AND ON THAT CHANNEL, WE LOVE BOXING, BY THE WAY.
BUT ON THAT CHANNEL YOU SAW THE BIG BANNER THAT WAS SUBLIMINALLY SAYING PALM BAY.
RIGHT. AND SO I THINK THERE'S VALUE TO THAT AS WELL.
I THINK MARKETING OUR CITY, WHETHER IT'S WITH CODE OR THOSE THINGS, I THINK IT ADDS A VALUE THAT IT'S INTANGIBLE, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UM, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE AND I WANT TO VALIDATE DEPUTY MAYOR WHAT YOU SAID.
UM. CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY, BUILDING AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND INVESTING IN OUR CITY BECAUSE THE REVENUE SOURCE WILL BE THERE DOWN RANGE.
SO THAT COUPLED WITH I'M STRUGGLING GIVING THE MONEY BACK, I REALLY AM, SIR, BECAUSE THAT THAT SAYS THAT WE COULDN'T WE COULDN'T PUSH IT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.
AND THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THAT JUST DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME GENTLEMEN.
THAT AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
I'M. I'M GOOD WITH MOVING FORWARD AND CONSIDERING.
I JUST. I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR CITY MANAGER.
IF YOU HAVE MR FRANK WATANABE COME UP BECAUSE THAT THAT FIGUREHEAD OF 575,000 TO ALMOST A MILLION WAS NEVER INCLUDED PREVIOUSLY TOO.
FRANK WATANABE. CITY ENGINEER.
SO EVEN EVEN WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION POTENTIALLY HAPPENING WITH THE 575,000 TO 1 MILLION FOR THE ENTRANCE, CAN THE CURRENT ROADS IN FRED POPPY PARK HANDLE 45 FOOTER OR SOME OF THESE? NO. THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU GO TO THE PARK, THE CURRENT RADIUS, YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO CANAL NUMBER EIGHT.
AND BECAUSE OF THAT CANAL NUMBER EIGHT, THE GUARDRAIL TERMINATES RIGHT WHERE THE RADIUS ENDS.
SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T WORK TOO WELL.
WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH MELBOURNE.
SO YOU'LL HAVE TO DO SOME MAJOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERSECTION.
SO, SO THIS 575 TO 1 MILLION IS NOT I WOULD SAY IT WAS A GOOD COST AT THE TIME.
IT'S NOT A ROAD THAT THAT EASEMENT ROAD THAT GOES INTO THE PARK STILL BELONGS TO THE COUNTY.
IT WAS DEDICATED. IT WAS NEVER ACCEPTED.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE I WAS LOOKING AT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE ENTRANCE.
WE REALIZED THAT THAT THAT ROAD MAY STILL BE PART OF THE COUNTY, JUST LIKE THE ROAD IS RIGHT NOW.
A GOOD PORTION OF THE ROAD. I MEAN, THAT WHOLE PORTION FROM C10 ALL THE WAY OUT IS COUNTY.
SO THAT ROAD THAT GOES UP TO THE COUNTY PARK, IT STILL BELONGS TO THE COUNTY.
IT WAS DEDICATED FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM OUR CITY SURVEYOR.
SO AS ONE OF THOSE GHOST ROADS AGAIN WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.
SO IS THAT FOR THEM TO FIX THEN? WELL, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK IN AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE IF WE DO ANY IMPROVEMENTS, IT'S LIKE THE IMPROVEMENTS I'M TRYING TO DO AT THE INTERSECTION OF MALABAR AND SAINT JOHNS.
I'M GOING THROUGH HOOPS TO GET THE PERMITS TO DO THE WIDENING, WHICH IS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR ROAD.
IT'D BE THE SAME SITUATION HERE.
YEAH. AND I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING THAT TO SHOOT THIS DOWN, MAN.
I'M JUST THINKING, LIKE YOU SAID, I'M JUST THROWING THE FACTS.
THESE ARE FACTS. THINKING LONG THINKING DOWN RANGE.
YES, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH.
OH, YEAH. CAN WE, SIR? YES. YES, MAYOR.
ON THAT SAME. SAME LINE OF THOUGHT THERE, HAVE WE? I KNOW WE HAVEN'T, HAVE WE? CONSIDERING. THE BRIDGE.
YES. WE HAVE ANY CONVERSATION EARLY ON WHEN WE LOOKED AT BRIDGES TWO, THREE YEARS AGO WHEN STEEL COST WAS MORE AFFORDABLE, WE WERE LOOKING AT A PRECAST STEEL BRIDGE BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE WERE LOOKING AT FERGUSON, REMEMBER FERGUSON, ONE OF OUR LAST AREAS WE STILL HAVE TO FINISH FOR ROADS THAT WERE CLOSED.
WE WERE GOING TO PUT A BRIDGE.
SO THE COST TO DO A STEEL BRIDGE IS OUT OF OUT OF THE QUESTION NOW.
SO NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRECAST CONCRETE BRIDGES.
AND AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO CROSS THAT CANAL, WHICH IS A TILLMAN CANAL.
AND TILLMAN WANTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR CANAL AND MAINTENANCE TO THE CANAL.
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SO THAT MEANS THAT BRIDGE HAS TO HAVE A CROWN ON IT.YOU GOT TO RAISE IT UP. SO WHEN YOU START RAISING IT UP, YOU GET CHALLENGES.
IT'D BE BETTER IF WE COULD LAY IT DOWN AND SOMEHOW KEEP IT FLAT.
BUT TILLMAN DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT.
THEY WANT TO HAVE ACCESS WITHIN THE CANAL, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WHY.
SO THOSE ARE CHALLENGES, TOO, WITH THE BRIDGE.
SO THAT NEEDS TO ALSO BE INCORPORATED.
THE CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE IS TO MAYBE DO A COST ANALYSIS BETWEEN THE TWO ENTRANCES.
THE BRIDGE, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO NEED EVEN FOR THE GROWTH FOR THE PARK.
THE BRIDGE WOULD BE IDEAL BECAUSE IT TIES IN TO THE OTHER SIDE, WHICH IS THE SAINT JOHNS PRESERVE.
IT'S MEANT TO BE A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION, CORRECT? SO THE WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AN INVESTMENT, IT SOUNDS TO ME THE BRIDGE MAYBE SHOULD BE ALL FOCUSED.
I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
FROM A CIRCULATION STANDPOINT, YOU ALWAYS WANT TO HAVE A SECOND ENTRANCE.
YOU MAY HAVE TO DO SOME REPAIRS AND REMOVALS AND MAYBE A WHOLE NEW CULVERT AND THE PERMITTING, BUT IT WOULD BE STILL A LOT MORE AFFORDABLE THAN BUILDING A WHOLE BRAND NEW BRIDGE. AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO ADD IN TURN LANES.
MORE LIKELY YOU HAVE TO ADD A SIGNAL.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU'RE UP THERE WAY PAST 1,000,002, THREE, FOUR.
THEN THE BRIDGE ITSELF, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE FIVE, SIX, $7 MILLION.
AND, AND AND, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
RIGHT NOW, IF WE THINK ABOUT THE GROWTH THAT'S GOING TO BE OUT THERE, THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE WHERE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY PARK IMPACT FEES, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO USE THAT FOR THAT BRIDGE, RIGHT? IF WE'RE MOVING DOWN THIS DOWN THIS ROAD, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME.
YEAH. DO I WISH WE HAD THAT IN IN THE IN THE IMPACT FEES FOR PARKS.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED THAT REGARDLESS.
AND I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THAT.
THANK YOU, SIR. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, FRANK.
AND FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR OUR CITY, SIR.
SO, GENTLEMEN, I THINK IN MAKING A DECISION TODAY FOR OUR FUTURE, RIGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IS DO WE MOVE FORWARD OR DO WE RETURN THE FINANCES? I CAN TELL YOU RETURNING THE FINANCING AND ASKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I DON'T THINK WE'LL WE'LL BE SUCCESSFUL WITH ASKING FOR A DIFFERENT PROJECT.
THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS I SIT ON.
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE ULTIMATELY THE ONES THAT MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
SO. WELL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT? IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN HEARING THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
WELL, WE NEED WE'VE GOT PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST.
YEAH. YEAH, WE GOT PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, JULIET MOSCONI.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
MR BILL BATTEN FOLLOWED BY RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
SIX YEARS. BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
AND WHEN I SAID THE PARKS AND RECREATIONS GET 7% OF OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT'S CURRENTLY $8.9 MILLION, ITS PARKS, ITS PARKS AND RECS AND FACILITIES, BUT IT'S STILL 7% OF OUR GENERAL REVENUE FUND BUDGET.
I MEAN $9 MILLION, RIGHT? WHEN I BROUGHT THAT UP, THEY SAID, BILL, THIS WILL BE SELF-SUSTAINING.
WE'RE GOING TO USE THE GRANT AND IT'LL BE SELF-SUSTAINING.
THAT WAS SIX YEARS AGO FOR $1.7 MILLION.
AND WE HAVE DONE NOTHING EXCEPT REMOVE THE PEPPER TREES.
AND WE'VE ALREADY SPENT HALF OF OUR $1.7 MILLION.
THAT'S ALL THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUT OF THIS.
AND GOT SOME DRAWINGS ON PAPER, THAT'S ALL.
ME BEING THE POOP HEAD THAT I AM.
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE, THE PRICE FOR THE BRIDGE.
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$2 MILLION.THE PART. THE PRICE FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE TURN LANE.
NONE OF THAT BETTER COME OUT OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND OR OUT OF THE $150 BUDGET.
I MEAN, $150 MILLION ROAD BOND.
IF WE WOULD JUST CHARGE EVERYBODY THAT'S USING PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES INSTEAD OF GIVING, OH, YOU CAN HAVE IT FOR FREE BECAUSE YOU'RE A GOOD CAUSE. EVERYBODY'S NEEDING IT.
GIVE AWAY AND CHARGE EVERYBODY.
THAT WOULD RECOUP SOME OF THIS LOSS FOR THE MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH I'D HAVE TO GIVE A PAT ON THE BACK TO CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.
THEY TURNED BACK MORE THAN WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
IN THIS GRANT, BEFORE WE GIVE IT BACK.
THAT WOULD BE CALLED RUSTIC CAMPING.
YOU STILL HAVE SOME CAMPSITES WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO TO, THEY CAN GO CAMPING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A $300 MILLION MOTORHOME TO GO CAMPING.
GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR CAMPSITE.
YOU'LL STILL HAVE FUN, YOU'LL HAVE THE ABILITY AND YOU CAN GET IT FOR LESS.
JUST LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS, WORK WITHIN YOUR BUDGET.
GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL RANDAL OLSZEWSKI 348, BROOK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.
SO IF YOU KNOW THE SONG SING WITH ME, I'M GOING TO GET MY BEAT HERE.
AND IT'S YOU GOT TO KNOW WHEN TO HOLD EM.
KNOW WHEN TO FOLD EM, KNOW WHEN TO WALK AWAY.
KNOW WHEN TO RUN, RUN, COUNCIL RUN STAFF RUN FROM THIS NIGHTMARE OF A PROJECT.
YOU'RE LUCKY YOU ONLY SPENT 49,000.
YOU HAVE A GOOD, SMART STAFF AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO OWE THE COUNTY ANYTHING BACK.
IT IS FRAUDULENT TO THE COUNTY AND TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SHAM THAT IS THAT THERE 1.7 MILLION WILL RESULT IN ANYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED BACK IN 2016.
NOW, SOME GOOD THINGS WERE SAID TONIGHT.
WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND OUR IMPACT FEES, OUR GENERAL FUND UNDESIGNATED MONEY TO BRING IN 45 PEOPLE A DAY FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY AND MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THEM.
WHAT DOES THIS RV PARK AS PRESENTED AS USING THAT ROAD DO TO BRING TO MY LIFE OR TO MY NEIGHBOR'S LIFE IN THE PURSUIT OF MAKING THOSE 45 PEOPLE ABLE TO COME SAY HI TO US, WE ARE GOING TO RUIN THE INTERSECTION THAT COMES OUT ON MALABAR ROAD.
WE'RE GOING TO OVERLOAD WITH WEIGHT.
CURRENT MODERN DAY, THE WAY THE PARK IS USED.
OUR EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA WAS A BEAUTIFUL EVENT.
I LIVE HERE ON THIS PORTION OF MALABAR ROAD.
IT TOOK ME 35 MINUTES TO GET HOME, INCLUDING MY LEFT TURN.
THEN I HAD TO GET OUT BECAUSE I ONLY HAD ONE WAY.
MAYBE ON THAT DAY I WOULD HAVE TOOK THE BACK ENTRANCE.
NEW ENTRANCE NEEDS TO BE MADE.
IT NEEDS TO BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE PARK.
THE MAJORITY OF TRAFFIC NEEDS TO BE DIVERTED THERE, JUST LIKE WICKHAM PARK.
I IMAGINE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO KNOW THIS FACT.
NOW, IN THE BEAUTIFUL WORDS, MY FRIEND KENNY, RUN, RUN FROM THIS, TURN IT INTO SOMETHING POSITIVE AND DO NOT BE TOO PRIDEFUL TO GO BACK TO THE TDC AND SAY, HEY, WE MADE AN OOPSIE AND WE WANT TO REROUTE THE MONEY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
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THAT'S HONORABLE.THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. COUNCIL.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, MAYOR.
DO WE HAVE ANY GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IDENTIFIED? IT SAYS CONSIDER OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, SO.
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO GET YOUR YOUR WAY IN ON THIS IN MY EYES.
RIGHT. BECAUSE THIS THIS FIRST CAME WELL, IT WAS SEPTEMBER 2020 IS WHAT AND DEPUTY MAYOR AND DEPUTY MAYOR AND I WERE NOT ON THIS COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO GET MORE OF YOUR TAKE.
THERE'S SOME LEGITIMATE ISSUES HERE.
ARE WE I MEAN, THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO EITHER STOP OR MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT YOU TO ME, YOU REPRESENT FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL. AND I WANT TO HONOR THAT.
I WAS PROBABLY MORE FRUSTRATED THEN THAN I AM NOW.
UM, BUT, UH, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, MAYOR, I JUST BECAUSE WE TO HIS POINT, WE CAN ALWAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BRIDGE REGARDLESS OF THIS PROJECT OR NOT.
I DON'T SEE IT GOING IN OUR FAVOR.
RIGHT. THERE'S A GOOD POINT TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
WE COULD LITERALLY RIGHT NOW PERHAPS USE SOME OF THE IMPACT FEES OR THE IMPACT FEES TO BUILD THE BRIDGE, UM, AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO, TO, TO FUND ANYTHING ELSE.
RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE BRIDGE.
UM, THE, THE WE NEED THE BRIDGE NOW.
SO PART OF IT AND MR. OLSZEWSKI BRINGS UP A LEGITIMATE SIDE TO THIS, RIGHT? UM. THE ISSUE BEFORE US IS DO WE TURN BACK THE MONEY? DO WE TAKE.
DO WE TAKE THE LOSS? DO WE GIVE THE MONEY BACK? BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU 100% BECAUSE THE BOARD IS THE BOARD CAN REACT A CERTAIN WAY.
AND BUT I CAN TELL YOU, BASED ON THE RECENT HISTORY OF THE TDC ADVISORY BOARD, I'M FOLLOWING YOU.
THEY ARE ALLOCATING MONEY RIGHT NOW FOR TAKING CULTURAL.
FINANCES AND GIVING IT AND GIVING IT TOWARDS OR PROVIDING IT FOR LIFEGUARDS.
YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORTAGE.
YES, SIR. BECAUSE THERE'S A SHORTAGE.
IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE BLESSING TO THEM.
BUT DON'T EXPECT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET ANYTHING.
WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY ANY OF THIS BACK.
SO I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT BACK AT ALL, SIR.
AND THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION WITH PREVIOUS COUNSEL TO SOME OF COUNSEL WANTED TO GIVE THE MONEY BACK AND OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DIDN'T WANT TO BECAUSE WE KNEW WE WEREN'T GOING TO SEE IT AGAIN. SO TO THAT POINT, COULD WE POTENTIALLY LOOK AT AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR STAFF AND COUNSEL UTILIZING THE 1.7 FOR DIFFERENT PROJECT IN LIGHT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO US.
MAYBE, MAYBE NOT A RUSTIC CAMPGROUND, BUT SOMETHING IN.
AND AT THE SAME TIME WORKING TOWARDS THE BRIDGE BECAUSE.
YOU KNOW, WE PRAY THAT IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
KNOCK ON WOOD, SAY A FIRE DOES HAPPEN.
DURING ONE OF THE BIG EVENTS OUT AT FRED POPPY PARK IS STILL JUST ONE ENTRANCE.
SO REGARDLESS, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED TO.
YES, SIR. HOWEVER, I DON'T THINK WE COULD DEVIATE.
LIKE, IT'D BE GREAT IF WE COULD JUST SLIGHTLY DEVIATE, MAYBE EVEN AN AMPHITHEATER.
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BUT WE CAN'T.WE CAN'T DO THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. WE WOULD BE GIVING THE MONEY BACK FOR THIS PROJECT AND APPLYING FOR A NEW PROJECT IF YOU WANTED TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND. WHO DO YOU KNOW? WHAT? MAYBE I COULD HELP.
WHY DON'T WE JUST TURN BACK THE MONEY? I KNOW THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SAY.
IF WE TURN BACK THE MONEY, WE COULD USE THIS TO BUILD THE BRIDGE RIGHT NOW.
WE COULD USE THIS RIGHT HERE TO BUILD A BRIDGE RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT WOULD.
AND THEN PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND AND REAPPLY DOWN RANGE YEARS, YEARS LATER.
I'M JUST SAYING, I THINK AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DEPUTY MAYOR, BUT MAN, WE'VE GOT IN THIS.
IF WE COULD GIVE BACK THE MONEY, THAT MIGHT BE THE THE WISDOM THAT'S NEEDED NOW.
IT WOULDN'T BE INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE, BUT USING THIS MONEY IN OUR.
IN 3290807 TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE IS STILL INVESTING IN OUR FUTURE.
MY MY QUESTION TO BUILD A BRIDGE, WOULD IT BE PARK IMPACT FEES OR TIFF? IT IS IT'S. THERE ARE DIFFERENT IDEAS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AND IT'S SOMETHING AS FAR AS CONNECTING IT TO OTHER THINGS WITHIN THE PARK CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING.
IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE HAD GENERALLY SPOKEN ABOUT.
BUT IT DEPENDS UPON THE DESIGN AND THE INTENT AND HOW IT'S INCORPORATED INTO OTHER THINGS.
WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT THERE YET.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF JUST TALKED, YOU KNOW, THEORETICALLY IN VERY GENERAL TERMS. SO I WOULD HAVE TO ASK A LOT OF THESE ANALYSIS ARE VERY MUCH FACT BASED AND I WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO SEE MORE FACTS.
I MAY CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO PUT ON THE.
CAN WE TABLE IT? I'VE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH STAFF.
ARE WE TIME SENSITIVE? MISS. MISS JULIET? NO, WE ARE NOT. THE TDC DID ASK ME TO PROVIDE THEM AN UPDATE BASED ON THIS MEETING THIS EVENING.
THE TOURISM DEVELOPMENT OFFICE.
BUT THERE IS THE ONLY REQUIREMENT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2024.
THE GRANT WILL EXPIRE AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN EXTENSION.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS MAYBE IF WE TABLE THIS PART OF THE TABLING IS HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO SEE IF THIS QUALIFIES FOR US TO USE THIS FUNDING TO BUILD THAT BRIDGE.
AND MAYBE IF THAT'S A IS THAT IS THAT POSSIBLE? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOING THE TDC.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR IMPACT FEE.
I UNDERSTAND. BUT YOU'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO FIND OUT WHETHER.
YEAH. WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF WE TABLE IT, I WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I WOULD WANT OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.
OKAY. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I DON'T CERTAINLY CAN GET MORE INFORMATION TO THE EXTENT THAT PERSON HAS THE INFORMATION TO PROVIDE THE FACTUAL BASIS TO ME, I DON'T REALLY SEE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO. BUT CERTAINLY IF PARKS HAS A RECREATION FACILITIES, I KNOW WHOMEVER CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE A MORE A FACTUAL
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BASIS FOR ME OR IF THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT, CERTAINLY THAT I COULD ONCE THEY CAN PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, I CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE A LEGAL OPINION.I'M JUST NOT QUITE SURE HOW THESE TWO TIE IN.
SO THERE IS THE CONNECTION IS GIVING US THE INFORMATION.
IF WE COULD USE THAT MONEY, THAT COULD PROBABLY HELP US DETERMINE DO WE FOCUS, RETURN THE MONEY OR JUST USE THOSE IMPACT FEES TO TO CREATE THE BRIDGE AND THEN WORRY ABOUT THE TDC OR THE CAMPGROUNDS LATER, THAT THERE IS NO CONNECTION OTHER THAN GIVING US THE INFORMATION? CAN WE USE THE IMPACT FEE, PARK MONEY? AND TO ADD TO THAT, MAYOR, YOU YOU HAD ASKED MRS MOSCONI A QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THE CAMPGROUND.
LONG POINT, MANATEE HAMMOCK LIKE THAT'S ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP US OUT AS WELL.
IF IF WE SEE IF WE SEE RIGHT NOW THAT THEIR CAPACITY IS LIKE LOOKING AMAZING, THEN THAT SHOWS THAT BACKS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHERE TO MOVE FORWARD.
BUT IF WE SEE THAT EVEN THEY'RE STRUGGLING THEN.
SO I THINK TABLING IS A GOOD OPTION.
JOHNSON. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR.THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE PULLED FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
AGENDA ITEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOUR.
SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MADAM. RESOLUTION 2023 TEN, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 51, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020 302, ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 THROUGH 2023.
RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 11 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING RESOLUTION 2022 DASH 52, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION 2020 3-03, ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 THROUGH 2023 THROUGH 2026 THROUGH 2027 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
RESOLVE A MOTION 20, 2312 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM ACT.
SUBSECTION FOUR 20.900 AND 7-4 29,079 FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULE CHAPTER 60 737 FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND CERTIFICATION NEEDED BY THE STATE AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE HOUSING INITIATIVES PARTNERSHIP PROGRAM.
ACT SUBSECTIONS 420 .907-4 29,079.
FLORIDA STATUTES AND RULE CHAPTER 67 DASH 37 FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE.
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AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTS AND CERTIFICATIONS NEEDED BY THE STATE AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
[4. Contract: Malabar Road water main extension, Weber Road to Cory Road; Design, Permitting, Land Acquisition Support, and Bidding Services – Task Order 23-03-IS – Utilities Department (Infrastructure Solution Services, $206,810).]
BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.I HAVE FOUR QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.
THE FIRST ONE, WHO WILL BE PAYING FOR THE LAND ACQUISITION, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THIS LAND ACQUISITION IS NOT EVEN IN THE CITY LIMITS OF PALM BAY. QUESTION NUMBER TWO HOW MUCH DOES THE TOWN OF MALABAR CURRENTLY PAY TO THE CITY OF TO THE CITY FOR THEIR WATER SERVICES? QUESTION NUMBER THREE WHY AREN'T WE EXPANDING CITIZENS TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY INSTEAD OF GOING DOWN MALABAR ROAD WHERE NOBODY'S WHERE NO ONE'S LOCATED, WHEN WE HAVE 30, WHEN WE HAVE TWO THIRDS OF THE RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY WITHOUT WATER SERVICE, WHAT WAS THE FINAL LAST ONE IS WHERE THIS TOTAL COST FOR WHAT, THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE IS $1.5 MILLION.
WE'VE ALREADY INVESTED $270,000.
SO JUST CURIOUS, THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO SEE IF I COULD GET ANSWERED.
AND HOPEFULLY IF IT'S GOING TO THE TOWN OF MALABAR BECAUSE I COULDN'T SEE IT.
I SEE THE CONTRACT SAYS THE CITY VERSUS THE TOWN, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS, WELL, THE TOWN OF MALABAR, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING THEM WITH WATER AND SEWER, WHICH WE ALREADY ARE, I UNDERSTAND.
WHERE WHERE WAS THEIR IMPACT IN THAT 1.5 MILLION? I DO REALIZE THAT WATER IS PAID FOR BY THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE USING IT.
THAT'S HOW WE MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF OUT OF GENERAL FUND.
THAN THE LOCALS. YOU KNOW THAT OUT-OF-TOWNERS PAY MORE.
THEY DO, SIR. BUT, MADAM SHERMAN.
YES. THANK YOU, SIR. SO THEY THE THE OUT-OF-TOWNERS, AS YOU CALL THEM, THEY DO PAY DIFFERENT RATES.
THEY PAY HIGHER RATES THAN OUR RESIDENTS.
SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO CONTINUE.
THE EASEMENTS ARE PAID FOR OR FUNDED.
EXCUSE ME. LET ME START AGAIN.
PURCHASING THE EASEMENTS OCCURS USING UTILITIES FUNDS, NOT GENERAL FUNDS.
SO THE EASEMENTS WILL BE BOUGHT BY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FROM THOSE INDIVIDUAL LANDOWNERS.
WHILE IT DOES PROVIDE IMPROVED WATER QUALITY AND FLOW FOR PART OF MALABAR, IT ALSO SERVES AS AN EXTRA LOOP AND A SECONDARY FEED FOR PALM BAY HOSPITAL, WHICH IS A VERY CRITICAL PIECE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO. UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
IT'S NEEDED. IT'S BEEN ON OUR CAPITAL PLAN FOR MANY YEARS AND WE'RE GLAD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 3 TO 0.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12 ON THE CONSENT.
[12. Consideration of a co-sponsorship request for the Kasik Heritage Corp. Second Annual Haitian Flag Day Parade and Soccer Tournament, Kasik Flag Cup ($1,380).]
DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN.BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST CONSIDERING CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP.
JUST TRYING TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE.
REMEMBER, PARKS AND RECREATION IS GETTING $8.9 MILLION OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET.
JUST TRY TO KEEP THAT IN, IN YOUR MIND SET ALL THE TIME.
YET THE AGENDA PACKET SHOWS 15 1560 OF TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS WHEN WE'RE COMPARING.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS?
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FOR THIS ITEM. OKAY. UM, MADAM SHERMAN.YES, SIR. I'M ACTUALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ANSWER IS.
DO YOU DID YOU UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION? I'M SEEING I'M SEEING 1380.
THE I'M ADDING UP FOR 60 AND KIND WAGES AND 920 AND FEE WAIVERS AND THAT TOTALS 1380.
YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MISS YOUNG.
WERE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST WITH THE KAZAKH HERITAGE CORPORATION FOR THE SECOND ANNUAL HAITIAN FLAG DAY PARADE AND SOCCER TOURNAMENT AND AUTHORIZED 460 OF IN-KIND WAGES, LABOR AND 920 AND FEE WAIVERS TOTALING 1380.
AYE. PASSES 3 TO 0 ITEM 13 ON THE CONSENT.
[13. Consideration of an agreement with Florida Power and Light for additional streetlights throughout the City.]
BATTEN, BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.
OKAY. WHAT DOES THIS AVERAGE OUT TO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH THIS HOW MUCH THIS IS? WHAT WAS THE AVERAGE PER LIGHT THAT THAT CAME TO? I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMED EXTREMELY HIGH FOR 31 LIGHTS.
IT WAS GOING TO COST US, YOU KNOW, $7,000 A YEAR, IT SEEMS. SEEMS STRANGE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHERE IS THE PRIMARY LOCATION FOR PHASE TWO GOING TO BE SOMETHING? I KNOW WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THINGS, I SAW THAT IT WAS A LOT OF IT WAS AROUND WHERE PRIMARY ROADS ARE, WHERE PRIMARY ROADS ARE, WHICH SOMEWHAT MAKES SENSE, EXCEPT THE BIGGEST DANGER WE HAVE.
THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS OR STREETS.
SO WE'RE WE'RE LIGHTING THE SIDEWALK AREAS.
BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AT THE BIGGEST RISK ARE THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THE ROAD.
RIGHT. AND THEN THE FINAL QUESTION, JUST BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIND IT IN OUR BUDGET WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET, WHAT IS THE CITY ACTUALLY EXPENDING ANNUALLY FOR LIGHTING OF THE CITY LIGHTS? IF THEY'RE TALKING 31 LIGHTS COST OF $7,000 ANNUALLY, THEN WHAT ARE WE SPENDING FOR THE TOTAL CITY JUST FOR LIGHTING? AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, OUT WHERE I LIVE, EVERYBODY'S WALKING IN THE DARK EVERYWHERE THEY GO.
AND IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, 37 YEARS NOW FOR ME, RIGHT? WELL, MAYBE. AND WE'VE LEARNED HOW TO LIVE THAT WAY.
JUST THE THOUGHT PROCESS, FOLKS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
DID YOU GET THOSE FOUR QUESTIONS? I BELIEVE SO. THANK YOU. SO THE THE COST FOR THIS, THE REASON WHY IT'S HIGHER THAN YOU MIGHT EXPECT IF YOU HAD YOUR OWN RESIDENTIAL LIGHT THAT YOU WERE RENTING FROM FPL IS THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL THE LIGHT.
BUT WE ACTUALLY PAY BOTH A FIXTURE FEE AS WELL AS A MONTHLY FEE FOR THE ACTUAL POWER THAT WE USE.
THE 30 THE PHASE TWO PLAN, WHICH WE HAVE NOT LOCKED IN IN FULL YET.
BUT TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE BACKGROUND, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE LOCATIONS THAT WERE SELECTED, THERE WERE SEVERAL CRITERIA THAT STAFF LOOKED AT TO START, WE HAVE A DATABASE OF RESIDENT REQUESTS THAT GOES BACK YEARS AND YEARS.
SO WE'VE ALWAYS TABULATED THAT.
BUT WE STILL MAINTAIN THAT LIST.
AND EVERY TIME ANYONE CALLS REQUESTS A LIGHT, WE'VE ADDED THEM TO THE LIST.
SO SOME OF THAT DATA WAS FACTORED IN.
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INCIDENTS. BUT THERE WERE PLENTY OF INCIDENTS THAT OCCURRED ON LOCATIONS, TO YOUR POINT, THAT DID NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS.THE THE NEED TO GROW THE STREETLIGHTS.
INVENTORY IN THE CITY HAS BEEN WITH US FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THESE PARTICULAR LIGHTS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY IN PLACES WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS, WE'RE PAYING THESE MONTHLY OPERATING AND RENTAL FEE COSTS, SO THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.
THERE'S ACTUALLY TRANSFORMERS THAT NEED TO BE ADDED BY FPL.
SO THESE ARE THESE ARE THE EASY ONES, I GUESS IS A SHORT STORY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? SIDE. OKAY.
SO MOVED. I THINK SECOND COUNCILWOMAN FELIX WANTED TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE. YOU'RE NOW ON ITEM 16 UNDER CONSENT.
MR. MARTIN. THAT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, I WOULD HAVE KIND OF PREFERRED TO PRESENTED
[16. Consideration of adopting the Turkey Creek Restoration Feasibility Study.]
THIS ONE WHEN WE WERE DOING THE TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION DURING THE PRESENTATION.SO HERE WE ARE NOW WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKAGE ON TURKEY CREEK RESTORATION AND THEY SAID TWO OF THE CANCELED ITEMS THAT WERE NO LONGER DOING IN THE TURKEY CREEK, ONE OF THEM WAS OUTLAW ISLAND, THAT THE RESTORATION THAT WAS TURNED OVER BACK TO THE COUNTY FOR SANCTUARY OF SOME KIND. SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL WE SPEND MONEY ON ON THAT PROJECT? BEFORE THAT WE HAVE NOW STOPPED IT.
DID WE ACCOMPLISH OR AND SO WHAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF THAT AND DID WE ACCOMPLISH THE OBJECTIVE OR DID WE JUST SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT SAYS, WELL, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING IT LOST INTEREST AND THEY'RE NO LONGER DOING IT? BECAUSE I SEE THAT HAPPEN A LOT.
IT'S A GRAND IDEA UNTIL SOMEBODY GETS TIRED OR UNTIL THE FORCE GETS TIRED OF PLAYING WITH IT.
SO THE SECOND QUESTION IS, SINCE IT'S CALLED OUTLAW ISLAND IN THE TURKEY CREEK, WHERE IS IT? I TRIED LOOKING IT UP AND I GOT I GOT NAMES FOR BANDS AND STUFF LIKE THIS, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OUTLAW ISLAND.
HISTORICALLY, THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT DATE BACK YEARS AND YEARS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THEY INVESTED IN THOSE, BUT BASED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE GIST OF WHAT WAS ANALYZED BY THE CONSULTANTS WAS TO TELL US THAT THOSE WERE NOT NECESSARY BASED ON OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY INSTALLED.
BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GIVE YOU A MAP THAT SHOWS YOU WHERE OUTLAW ISLAND IS.
THANK YOU, SIR. NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.
JOHNSON. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[23. Acknowledgement of the April 2023 GO Road Bond Paving Report.]
ON ITEM 20.GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL RANDALL OLSZEWSKI 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST.
AS FAR AS LOOKING AT THE APRIL 2023 GO ROAD BOND PAVING REPORT, THIS REPORT MAY NOT BE A SURPRISE TO YOU AS THE CITY COUNCIL HAVING TAKEN PLACE THE WORKSHOP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD.
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WE'VE TAKEN $100 MILLION SO FAR.SO I'M JUST YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TALK FOR MY NEIGHBORS.
I'M GOING TO TALK VERY, VERY SELFISHLY AT WHAT MALARKEY THIS ROAD BOND PROJECT IS.
I LIVE IN UNIT SEVEN, SO I'M IN PHASE FIVE OF THE PROJECT.
SO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IN THE YEAR 2023, WHEN I GO CHECK THE MAIL WITH MY DAUGHTER, SHE BENDS DOWN IN THE STREET AND PICKS UP SEASHELLS AND SAYS, HEY, DADDY, LOOK, I FOUND A SEASHELL. THAT'S WHAT MY STREET'S MADE OUT OF TODAY TO GO DOWN.
JOHN THE DAMAGE THAT IT DOES TO MY SUSPENSION EVERY TIME I JUST WANT TO GET HOME IS IMMEASURABLE.
SO IF I TRY TO RUN ON THE ROAD, IT'S SO BUCKLED THAT I'M GOING TO ROLL MY ANKLE ON IT.
NOW, THE PROPOSITION IS THAT FOR LITTLE OLD ME AND UNIT SEVEN AND THE OTHER FOLKS IN PHASE FIVE, AS THE MONEY CONTINUES TO RUN OUT AND RUN OUT AND RUN OUT AND WE GET CLOSER TO OUR PHASES, WE'RE GOING TO GET COMPROMISED ROADS.
THE ROADS OUT IN SOUTHEAST ARE GORGEOUS.
MY BEST FRIEND, I CALL MY BROTHERS BUYING A HOUSE OUT THERE.
THIS COMING WEEK. IT JUST GOT REJUVENATED.
I'M SO EXCITED TO DRIVE OUT THERE.
I ACTUALLY USED TO LIVE OUT IN THAT AREA, SO I KNOW HOW SIGNIFICANT IT IS TO BUILD HOUSES OUT THERE.
I KNOW THAT HIS HOUSE IS BEING BUILT BY A BUILDER BECAUSE YOU GUYS PAVED THE ROADS OUT THERE.
I GET IT. BUT THE THE EQUALITY HERE IS IS COUNTERINTUITIVE.
YOU PAVED ALL THE ROADS IN SOUTHEAST.
IF YOU'VE NEVER DRIVEN DOWN IT, YOU'RE VERY REMISS IN YOUR DUTY.
YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY TO DEVELOP THESE AREAS.
THE BUILDERS ARE GOING TO COME.
THE FOLKS ARE GOING TO HAVE A PAVED ROAD TO GET OUT TO THE COMPOUND.
LUCKY THEM. THEY DON'T NEED TO GET THEIR BIKES DIRTY BEFORE THEY GO OFF ROADING.
BUT IN OUR LOCAL AREAS, IN PHASE FIVE, THERE IS NO HORIZON THAT OUR ROADS ARE GOING TO GET TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY PROJECTED TO BE 70 MILLION BEHIND ON 150 MILLION PROJECT.
AND THEN FULL PICTURE HERE, BECAUSE THE ITEM WAS SUPPOSED TO COME NEXT FOR PROCUREMENT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A CAMPGROUND THAT'S A DRAW ON A GENERAL FUND ON A ROAD THAT YOU HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN ABLE TO WIDEN YET BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO DRAW ON YOUR GENERAL FUND AND YOU HAVE THIS ROAD PROJECT DRAWING ON IT.
YOU GOT TO FOCUS IN ON THIS PROJECT.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? MADAM SHERMAN. UH, YES, SIR.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A WORKSHOP EARLIER IN MARCH.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT WE ARE TAKING AND WE ARE GOING TO SERIOUSLY EVALUATE ANY CHANGES TO THE TYPES OF TREATMENT WE MAKE ON ANY ROADS TO MAKE SURE IT WILL STILL SERVE THE NEEDS OF THAT COMMUNITY SO THAT IT WILL NOT BE A CHEAPER, LESSER JUNKIER ROAD.
SO THERE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT YOU HEARD AT THE WORKSHOP.
AND ALSO WE'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP WITH A LOT OF THE ROAD PAVING VENDORS HERE.
WE ARE GOING TO WORK VERY HARD TO TRY TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON IT.
IF WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE THE ROAD BOND COULD NOT DO ALL OF THE ROADS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A WAY THAT GENERAL FUND AND OR SOME OTHER FUNDING STRATEGY HELPS US GET THERE BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO HONOR THAT COMMITMENT WITH TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AND WE CANNOT, AS WE ALL KNOW, GO BACK TO A SITUATION WHERE WE DON'T MAINTAIN OUR ROADS, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND IN PLACE, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT. BUT IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION.
FULLY AWARE OF THE CONCERNS THERE, SIR.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECOND. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
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MS.. LEFFLER. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO.[NEW BUSINESS (Part 2 of 2)]
YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.FOR A MOMENT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MAY 4TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN AN EFFORT TO ENSURE THERE WILL BE A PHYSICAL QUORUM AT THE FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY.
OKAY. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. ON THIS ITEM.
SCHEDULE THE FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY 2020.
SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON COMMITTEE REPORTS AND I'LL START WITH MR OR COUNCILMAN.
[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]
FELIX. THERE.THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.
I SEE THOSE TWO GENTLEMEN BACK IN THE BACK.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR EVENT OR FLAG DAY.
OH, OKAY. IT'S VERY UNFORTUNATE.
MAY 18TH. I'LL BE HERE POSSIBLY THIS LATE.
BUT GREAT. I HOPE IT'S A GREAT EVENT.
I'D LOVE TO ATTEND, BUT I WILL BE HERE.
I WISH YOU SUCCESS WITH THE EVENT AND THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP SERVING THIS COMMUNITY.
I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE HISTORY THAT'S IMPORTANT ON ON FLAG DAY.
SO THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.
MY REPORT, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.
MY REPORTS. I PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING ON THAT AGENDA ITEM.
NO, THAT MY HEART IS TO SERVE THE CITY.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
I SERVE YOU WITH GOD, HONOR AND INTEGRITY.
NO, SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
OF COURSE. AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO COORDINATE A DATE WITH YOU ALL BECAUSE I NEED TO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON DUAL KING VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH IS CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2021 CA 014074.AND SOME OF THE DATES THAT WE HAVE THAT HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT ARE HAVING THE WE'RE ANTICIPATING ANTICIPATE THIS WILL BE ABOUT 30 MINUTES IN LENGTH AS FAR AS THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION IS HAVING IT APRIL 25TH AT 530 BEFORE THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP.
SO WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AS FAR AS WHEN WE SHOULD SCHEDULE THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION? I'LL GO WITH THE THE 25TH RIGHT BEFORE THE WORKSHOP.
SAME. I WOULD I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL.
MA'AM, IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU? YES. AND IF I CAN NOW THAT I HAVE THE DATE ACTUALLY MADE THE LEGALLY REQUIRED ANNOUNCEMENT, THAT WOULD BE THE END OF MY REPORT. OKAY.
JEWEL KING VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY.
CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2021 CA 01407 FOR ATTENDEES WILL BE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH AND DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS.
THE CLIENT ATTORNEY CLIENT SESSION IS SUSPECTED TO BE 30 MINUTES IN LENGTH.
THE DATE WILL BE APRIL 25TH AT 530.
ARE THERE SPEAKER CARDS COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR?
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
OKAY. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND.AND YOU CAN BRING THAT LECTERN DOWN, MA'AM.
I LIVE AT 1230 FREEL ROAD, NORTHEAST.
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE CONDUCT OF THIS COUNCIL IN THEIR ATTACKING THE MAYOR. WE HAVE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS GIVEN TO US BY THE CONSTITUTION TO EXPRESS OUR FAITH.
WHICH WE ARE A NATION WITH FREEDOM OF RELIGION, NOT FROM RELIGION.
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AND THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE SAID THAT I THOUGHT WERE EMBARRASSING AS A CITIZEN OF PALM BAY ALSO THE SPIRIT OF YOUR CHARTER AND ETHICS. DON'T ALLOW YOU TO CRITICIZE EACH OTHER THE WAY THAT YOU DID.AND I THINK IT WAS UNCALLED FOR.
THAT SAID, THERE WERE ALSO SOME COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THIS SITUATION, YOU KNOW, AS TO THE FOLLOWING, THE CHARTER AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I BELIEVE THE MAYOR DID THE ONLY THING HE COULD BECAUSE THAT AMENDMENT VIOLATES THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, WHICH GUARANTEES THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ELECT THEIR OWN REPRESENTATIVES.
I'M NOT IMPRESSED BY 20% OF THE POPULACE SAYING THAT IT WAS OKAY, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED.
I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
I NEED IT. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
YES, SAVING MONEY IS A GOOD THING, BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF OUR RIGHTS.
MS. I ALSO FOUND IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT HYPOCRITICAL WHEN THE OVERWHELMING VOTE NOT TO GIVE THE COUNCIL A RAISE AND PROTESTING THE MONEY THAT YOU WANTED TO GIVE YOURSELVES TAX FREE WAS VOTED ON IN SPITE OF WHAT THE PEOPLE SAID.
SO YOU CAN'T SAY IT'S YES, IT'S OKAY WHEN YOU DO IT, BUT BECAUSE THE MINORITY ON THE DAIS, YOU KNOW, DID WHAT HE COULD TO STOP SOMETHING THAT WAS TOTALLY UNJUST AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL FROM HAPPENING, I TOTALLY SUPPORT HIS ACTIONS, AND I AM REALLY SURPRISED THAT THAT AMENDMENT WAS EVER EVEN ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH.
MR, CHIEF. COME ON UP AND THEN YOU'RE NEXT, SIR.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
FIRST. I KNOW WE'RE UPGRADING THE PA SYSTEMS. I SEE SOME OF THE NEW MICS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT WE STILL HAVE THE DILEMMA WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
SO IF WE HAVEN'T MADE THOSE CORRECTIONS YET, COULD WE PLEASE PUT SOME SPEAKERS IN THE RESTROOM SO THAT WHEN I HAVE TO RUN, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO HEAR WHAT'S BEING SAID, BUT WE WE DON'T HEAR IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT WAS SAID.
THAT WAS A KIND OF IMPORTANT ONE.
SO NOW I HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THE VIDEO.
BUT BUT PUT A $3 SPEAKER IN THERE FOR ME OR SOMETHING.
THIS WAS JUST FOR HUMOR AND ENLIGHTENMENT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE THAT UNDER PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 12 AND 13, YOU PASSED IT SAYING, YES, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE MOVING ITEMS 12 AND 13 TO MAY 1ST.
SO MAYBE I WAS I WAS LAUGHING AND HOPING THAT IT WOULD FAIL AND THAT YOU WOULDN'T GET MAY 1ST DATE, JUST SO I COULD SAY, NOW, ARE YOU GOING TO CALL THIS GUY UP AND SAY, HOLD IT, WE TOLD YOU WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT YOU HADN'T VOTED TO DO IT YET.
IT WAS JUST A PROCEDURAL THING.
WHICH CAME FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG? I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT HUMOROUS THAT YOU'RE SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND YOU HADN'T VOTED ON IT YET.
KIND OF SEEMS FAMILIAR, DOESN'T IT? HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WERE GOING TO GET THERE.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? OH, YES, SIR. YOU'RE NEXT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED.
NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST, SIR BOB TOUCHTON.
I LIVE AT 1298 CIMARRON CIRCLE NORTHEAST, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR PAVING CONNECT ROAD.
IT'S REALLY NICE TO DRIVE DOWN NOW, BUT MY ISSUE WITH CONNECT ROAD IS, IS THAT I'VE LIVED IN THE SAME PLACE FOR SINCE 1995, RAISED MY FIVE CHILDREN AND WE LOVE IT.
IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY OVER THERE.
BUT CONNECT ROAD HAS TURNED INTO A SPEED ZONE.
CARS AND TRUCKS, I MEAN, SCHOOL BUSSES EVEN JUST FLY DOWN CONNECT ROAD LIKE THERE IS NO SPEED LIMIT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PUT SPEED BUMPS.
I LIVE ON CIMARRON CIRCLE, SO IT'S GOT A BRICK GATE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG FAMILIES NOW.
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AND THEY WALK THEIR KIDS RIDE BIKES, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOTTEN VERY DANGEROUS.SO I WOULD ASK IF THAT COULD BE LOOKED INTO.
BUT OTHERWISE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
I'M A VERY HAPPY PALM BAY RESIDENT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. TOUCHTON. I WANT TO.
MAYBE GET WITH OUR ASSISTANT DEPUTY OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER HERE.
GIVE HER YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE COULD HAVE THAT DIALOG WITH NECK ROAD AND MAYOR, BECAUSE I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP TO FRANK WATANABE A FEW TIMES, BECAUSE NUMEROUS RESIDENTS FROM NECK ROAD HAVE REACHED OUT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK STAFF WILL HAVE TO LOOK.
BUT THEY WANTED SPEED BUMPS IN THAT AREA.
BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS THAT'S A CUT THROUGH FOR FIRE PALM BAY ROAD TO PALM BAY ROAD.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT IT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP BY NUMEROUS RESIDENTS, JUST LIKE MR. BOB RIGHT HERE, SIR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK, MR. STICE? ANYONE ELSE AFTER MR. STICE? CARRY ON, SIR ROBERT.
THERE'S THREE OFFICERS THAT ARE RETIRING.
OKAY. YOU SEE SO MANY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SPEEDING SPEEDERS AND PALM BAY I'VE BEEN ALMOST BEGGING FOR THE MOBILE RADAR UNIT AND I THINK WENT DOWN TO ONE UNIT. RIGHT NOW IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE HOA, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHEN WE START GETTING UP TO SPEED, THE THE CHIEF TALKED ABOUT HE BELIEVES IN SENDING IT, GIVING, WANTING TICKETS, WANTING TICKETS IS NOT A DETERRENT TO ANYBODY.
OKAY. AND WE STILL HAVE THOSE RADAR DETECTORS ON BOTH SIDES OF BAYSIDE LAKES OUTSIDE SUMMERFIELD.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN I PUT MY I'M ROLLING THE DICE ON MY LIFE WHEN I'M WALKING DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE TRIGGERING THAT SPEEDOMETER OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, THE RADAR SPEED UNIT AT 48 MILES AN HOUR.
COME ON. I'M GOING TO WRITE SOME TICKETS IN THERE.
THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DETERRENT IS TO START WRITING A TICKET.
THEY'RE GOING TO TELL THEIR FRIENDS AND OTHER FRIENDS.
BUT GOING DOWN AND PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE CHURCH LIKE THEY DO SO THEY CAN HANG OUT UNTIL SOMEBODY DOES 60 IS NOT REDUCING THE DANGER ON AN L-SHAPED CURVE.
IT'S FIGURED OUT TO BE AN L-SHAPED.
LET'S NOT WAIT TILL WE GET ANOTHER DEATH.
LET'S GET IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
ALL RIGHT? PLEASE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.