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[00:00:02]

GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE'LL CALL THE JUNE 14TH CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETING TO ORDER AT 106.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TODAY, I WOULD ASK YOU TO PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO THAT YOU CAN BE SWORN IN.

[SWEARING IN]

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. THANK YOU.

MAY BE SEATED. THIS ITEM IS THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

I REVIEWED THE MINUTES FROM LAST.

LAST MONTH'S MEETING BEFORE COMING HERE AND EVERYTHING LOOKED GOOD.

SO THEY'VE BEEN SIGNED AND APPROVED.

IN ADDITION, CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE? SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

HOW'S THIS? OKAY.

IN ADDITION, I.

LAST MONTH I SAT AS THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FOR CODE REDUCTION FOR THE CODE REDUCTION HEARING.

SO I HAVE REVIEWED THOSE MINUTES AS WELL AND HAVE SIGNED AND THEY CAN BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD.

WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT ITEM.

[REPORTS]

HERE IS REPORTS.

THIS CASE TO BE HEARD ON THE REPORT'S AGENDA IS CEB 2362623 AT 1200 SAGOLA STREET SOUTHEAST AND THE CODE OFFICER IS PHILIP CLENDENIN.

PHIL CLENDENON, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE RESPONDENT IS HERE.

HE'S ASKING FOR MORE TIME.

YOU DID GIVE HIM 60 DAYS BACK IN MARCH, SO IT ENDED IN MAY.

HE DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO COME BACK IF HE NEEDED MORE TIME.

THERE WAS SOME MISCOMMUNICATION BETWEEN ME AND HIM.

I WAS ON VACATION, SO HE WASN'T ABLE TO GET AHOLD OF ME BEFORE THE MAGISTRATE LAST MONTH.

SO HE'S HERE ASKING FOR SOME FOR SOME MORE TIME.

CAN YOU REMIND ME WHAT THE NATURE OF THE VIOLATION WAS? YEAH. UM, USE OF EASEMENT, USE OF RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT THE REQUIRED PERMIT THE EASEMENT.

SO HE EXPANDED THE EASEMENT, THE SWELL.

HE ADDED THE EXTENSION, SO IT CAME DOWN FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

SO WE CITED HIM FOR IT.

HE IS WORKING ON IT. HE'S CUT UP A BUNCH OF IT.

SO. BUT HE'S WAITING ON.

HE CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU.

HE'S WAITING ON SOME OTHER THINGS FOR PERMITTING AND STUFF.

SO HE IS HE IS IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING ON IT, SO.

SOUNDS GOOD. GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, YEAH, AS YOU SAID, COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? DAVID DANIELS. AS YOU SAID, IT WAS A TOTAL MISUNDERSTANDING BETWEEN MYSELF NOT KNOWING HOW THIS SYSTEM WORKS, THAT I WAS JUST SUPPOSED TO APPEAR LAST MONTH. UM, BUT I.

I ALREADY GOT RID OF THE CULVERT PIPE BACK DOWN TO ORIGINAL MY DRIVEWAY.

I WIDENED INTO THE EASEMENT WITHOUT.

WITHOUT KNOWING. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

I'M TRYING TO GET A VACATE OF EASEMENT FOR FOUR OF THOSE SIX FEET.

AND I JUST GOT MY MY LEGAL SKETCH AND DESCRIPTION IN THE MAIL ON FRIDAY.

AND I'M GOING TO PUBLIC WORKS AS SOON AS I LEAVE HERE TO FILE FOR THAT VACATE OF EASEMENT.

AND I JUST NEED MORE TIME AND I NEED YOU TO IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU CAN SET ASIDE THOSE FINES FOR THE LAST MONTH.

THERE'S NO FINES YET. YEAH, THERE'S NO FINES YET.

NO, THERE ARE NO FINES YET.

OH THERE AREN'T. NO.

OH, THANK GOD.

IF IF I DIDN'T GIVE YOU EXTRA TIME THEN THEN THE FINES WOULD START ACCRUING.

BUT I DON'T. I DON'T SEE WHY WE SHOULDN'T GIVE YOU EXTRA TIME IN THIS CASE.

I APPRECIATE IT. SO YOU'VE BEEN WORKING TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM? YEAH, I'M PRESENTING MY PAPERWORK, AND THEN THEY TELL ME IT TAKES TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR THIS TO RESOLVE.

AND SO THAT'S ONE A MONTH.

SO I'M ASKING FOR ANOTHER 60 DAYS, ANOTHER 60 DAYS.

DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? OKAY, THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER 60 DAY EXTENSION FOR TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

IF IT'S NOT IN COMPLIANCE, THEN THAT'S WHEN THE FINES OF $50 A DAY WILL ACCRUE.

BUT AGAIN, SINCE YOU'RE WORKING WITH US AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE, JUST COME BACK AND WE CAN DISCUSS ANOTHER ONE AS NEEDED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK. I THINK I CAN GO.

SORRY. OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS 2365923 AT 1380 GINZA ROAD NORTHWEST.

AND THE OFFICER IS ANGELICA SNEED.

ANGELICA SNEED, CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE VIOLATIONS THAT STILL EXIST AT 1380 GINZA ROAD NORTHWEST.

THE HE'S HERE TO THE HE'S HERE TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION, I'M ASSUMING.

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OKAY. CAN YOU REMIND ME THE.

YES, SURE IT IS FOR SECTION 9303 ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS AND SLIGHTLY MATTER SECTION 185 183 USE A STRUCTURE LAND WITHOUT THE REQUIRED CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

SECTION 185 .123.

RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKED IN FRONT OF A RESIDENCE AND SECTION 185 010 MAINTAINING OR STORMING.

IT'S ACTUALLY FOR THE STORING OF THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE.

AND I DID GO BY INSPECT AND HE ACTUALLY BOUGHT MORE VEHICLES TO THE PROPERTY.

WHAT ABOUT THE WHAT ABOUT THE TRASH ACCUMULATION? WAS THAT ONE? WELL, WHAT I CAN SEE FROM THE ROAD WAS EVERYTHING IS STILL THERE FROM THE ROAD.

WHAT I CAN SEE, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T GONE ON THE PROPERTY AND I SAW THAT HE BROUGHT MORE ITEMS TO THE PROPERTY.

OKAY. I GOT PICTURES.

ALL RIGHT, SIR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME BACK.

DELI. SO THERE IS NO THERE.

THERE WAS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THIS.

I TOLD YOU LAST TIME THE RV IS LOCATED IN GRANT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS BECAUSE WE DO THE GRANT SEAFOOD FESTIVAL.

WE DO THE MUSIC, WE DO THE PRODUCTION FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE I KEPT THE RV.

IT NEVER WENT BACK TO THIS LAND.

NOW WHEN I SEE CORNER LOT AND IN FRONT OF RESIDENTS I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.

AND I JUST LOOKED IT UP 1314 GINZA STREET, WHICH IS NOT ADJACENT TO MY LAND, BUT IT IS A CORNER LOT AND THERE IS AN RV THERE THAT'S NOT MINE.

IS NO TRASH. THERE IS NO CARS.

THERE IS NOTHING THERE. I HAVE PICTURES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE, OR WE CAN GO THERE RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, LITERALLY THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

I'M NOT LYING. I DON'T. I DON'T.

I WOULD PAY FOR EVERYBODY TO GO THERE RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF I TOOK A FIELD TRIP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.

LISTEN, BUT WE CAN WE CAN NAME THE PRICE.

WE CAN COME AND LOOK UP, LOOK AT THE PICTURES.

ANGELIC. IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP WITH US, PLEASE, SO YOU CAN.

OH, SURE, SURE, SURE. THIS WAY YOU CAN.

I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE PICTURES ALSO.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE GAME, RIGHT? BUT ANYWAYS.

I'LL GET. I KNOW HE WAS IN TROUBLE WITH YOU FOR THAT THING THAT YOU'RE FROM GOVERNING BODY.

BECAUSE I.

THAT'S THE LAST PART. THAT WAS THERE MONTHS AGO.

CAN I. CAN I SEE IT? THAT'S WHY I MOVED TO ARKANSAS.

IT'S NOT THERE.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE. SONG LYRICS.

THERE'S NO TRACKS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT.

TALKED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S MY.

THAT'S OKAY.

ANGELICA. YEAH. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU NEED TO.

I COULD GO LOOK AT IT TOMORROW.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. OKAY.

AND, SIR, CAN YOU.

CAN YOU ARRANGE TO BE THERE ALSO? ABSOLUTELY. YES. WAIT, I HAVE TWO MEASUREMENTS TO DO, BUT YEAH, I'LL MAKE THE TIME.

I MAKE MY OWN SCHEDULE. ALL RIGHT.

SO I WILL GIVE YOU A FIVE DAY EXTENSION, WHICH IS TILL JUNE 19TH.

AND THEN IF THE IF THE PROPERTY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE UNTIL THEN OR AFTER THAT POINT, IT'LL BE $50 A DAY PER VIOLATION.

BEFORE. BUT I WANT YOU TO CALL CODE COMPLIANCE AND SET UP AN APPOINTMENT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MAY BE SOME DISCREPANCY ABOUT THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.

SO THIS WAY, RIGHT HERE.

SEE, I BROUGHT THIS. THIS WAY YOU CAN WORK IT OUT.

YOU CAN SEE. SORRY.

JUST TAKE ONE MORE SECOND. SORRY TO WASTE YOUR TIME, BUT THIS IS.

THAT'S OKAY, SIR. SIR, I'VE ALREADY.

I'VE ALREADY. NO, I KNOW I'VE ALREADY ORDERED THE EXTENSION.

IF YOU COULD PLEASE MOVE OFF TO THE SIDE.

YEAH, OKAY. GOOD.

GOOD. ALL RIGHT, COOL.

I NEED YOUR PHONE NUMBER. YEAH.

THREE, TWO, ONE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S HEAR THE NEXT ONE.

OKAY. OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CB2.

THREE, SIX, SIX, TWO, TWO, THREE.

AT 1450, TREE LINED BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST.

AND THE CODE OFFICER IS EMMANUEL SOTO.

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AND I DO HAVE I'M IN RECEIPT OF A LETTER THAT MR. DAVID WILSON IS ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THE OWNER'S BEHALF, AND I CAN PRESENT THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COURT OFFICER MANUEL SOTO WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE VIOLATION ON THE PROPERTY IS STILL THE SAME AND THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.

CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY OF THE VIOLATION? THEY BUILD SOME STRUCTURES INSIDE WITHOUT A PERMIT.

THANK YOU TOO. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? I'M HERE AT DAVID WILSON ON BEHALF OF BRUCE LINZMEYER, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THE TENANT BUILT THESE STRUCTURES THAT WERE NOT TO CODE IN THE WAREHOUSE.

WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING THEM SURRENDER THE PREMISES.

THEY SHOULD BE OUT BY JULY THE 1ST, AND WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR SOME MORE TIME TO GET THE TENANT OUT AND CURE THE CODE VIOLATIONS.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE YOU REPRESENT THE OWNER, THEN? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR.

AND WHAT EXACTLY DID THE TENANT BUILD IN THE BUILDING? THE TENANT IS MINING CRYPTOCURRENCY AND THEY HAVE THOUSANDS OF COMPUTER SERVERS IN THERE.

THEY CREATED THREE TUNNELS TO VENT HEAT OUT OF THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY DIDN'T DO IT TO CODE.

THEY DIDN'T NOTIFY THE LANDLORD THAT THEY WERE DOING THIS.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH THE ALTERS TO CURE THESE ITEMS, GET THE TENANT OUT AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NO CODE ISSUES AT THE BUILDING.

OKAY. SO ARE YOU HAVE YOU STARTED EVICTION PROCEEDINGS? WE'VE SERVED A DEFAULT LETTER.

WE HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS AND THE TERMS FOR WHICH THE SURRENDER WILL OCCUR.

AND WE HOPE THAT THEY'RE OUT OF THE PREMISES BY JULY THE 1ST.

OKAY. DOES IT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE COOPERATIVE OR.

YES, IT DOES. OKAY.

AND THEN AFTER THEY LEAVE, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT'LL TAKE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM? 60 TO 90 DAYS.

90 DAYS. DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH WITH AN EXTENSION? NO, NOT AT ALL. I'M FINE WITH 60 OR 90 DAYS.

WHATEVER YOU DECIDE, THERE'S NO SAFETY ISSUE.

NO. OR THERE IS BECAUSE THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL STUFF IN THERE.

THAT'S THE REASON THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WENT IN THERE.

SO I THINK ONCE THEY LEAVE, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE ALL THAT ALL THE ELECTRICAL STUFF WITH THEM AND ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS TAKE DOWN THE LITTLE STRUCTURES THEY BUILT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO NO SAFETY CONCERNS FOR ADJOINING PROPERTIES.

NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THEN I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT POINT.

IT'S A FREE STANDING BUILDING AND THESE STRUCTURES ARE MADE OUT OF WOOD AND INSULATION.

SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO TAKE A LONG TIME TO MOVE THE STRUCTURES OUT OF THE WAREHOUSE.

THAT COULD BE DONE IN A WEEK.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GETTING THE TENANT OUT AND WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

OKAY, THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE 90 DAY EXTENSION.

I WILL GIVE YOU UNTIL SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023 TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AND THEN IT WILL BE A $50 A DAY FINE PER VIOLATION AFTER THAT.

AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, NO FINES HAVE BEEN LEVIED TO THIS POINT.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SURE.

THAT IS ALL THE CASES TO BE HEARD ON THE AUTHORIZATION TO IMPOSE FINES.

SO THE CITY IS REQUESTING THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE REFINED ALL THE OTHER RESPONDENTS CASES LISTED ON THE AUTHORIZATION TO IMPOSE FINES, REPORT AND NONCOMPLIANCE FOR THE PERIOD STATED ON THE REPORT AND IMPOSE THE FINES AS LISTED ON THE REPORT.

FIND ALL THE RESPONDENTS CASES LISTED ON THE AUTHORIZATION TO IMPOSE FINES REPORT IN NON COMPLIANCE FOR THE PERIODS STATED ON THE REPORT AND IMPOSE THE FINES AS LISTED ON THE REPORT DATED JUNE 14TH, 2020.

ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD TODAY IS CEB.

[HEARINGS]

2380523. AND THIS IS AT 928 STABLE CIRCLE SOUTHEAST.

AND THE CODE OFFICER IS PHILIP CLENDENIN.

PHIL CLENDENIN, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE VIOLATION IS FAILURE TO MAINTAIN SOLID WASTE SERVICE.

AND THE RESPONDENT IS HERE REQUESTING AN EXTENSION.

HEY, YOU'RE STARTING TO BECOME A FREQUENT FLIER HERE, AREN'T YOU? I AM. I CAN SIT UP THERE NOW.

[00:15:04]

OH, KIM LEWIS.

SO I THINK OUR RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO ESTABLISH WATER WITHOUT ESTABLISHING THE SOLID WASTE PORTION.

SO I DON'T NEED A MONTH, BUT I JUST HAVE TO CONTACT THE RESIDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN CONTACT WITH THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

OKAY. I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS IS OCCURRING.

IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE I MEAN, THAT'S A SET ASIDE.

BUT THEY'RE ESTABLISHING WATER, LEAVING THE OFFICE WITHOUT THE FULL REQUIREMENT.

AND THIS IS KIND OF THIS IS THE SECOND ONE THAT'S HAPPENED.

IT'S A UTILITY THING, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S A NEW ONE TO ME.

YEAH. OKAY.

HAVE YOU AND YOU'VE. HAVE YOU TALKED WITH THE TENANTS? I WILL. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME.

BUT MY LAST RESIDENCY WAS THE SAME THING.

SO THEY'LL CALL AND ESTABLISH IT AND THEN IT'LL BE CURED AT THE SAME ADDRESS.

NO, THE FIRST ONE WAS TWO 85HZ, SO WE HANDLED THAT WITH HER.

BUT IT'S THE SAME SITUATION.

IT'S THE SAME. HOW LONG HOW LONG DID IT TAKE TO RESOLVE THE LAST ONE? WELL, THE LAST ONE WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE SHE WAS UNAWARE.

SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE A MISCOMMUNICATION ASPECT.

SO IT CREATED A DELAY, BUT IT SHOULDN'T TAKE THAT.

UM, MAYBE LIKE TWO WEEKS, IF THAT.

YEAH. AND THEN I CAN CONTACT HIM VIA EMAIL.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S DO, UM.

WE'LL DO 15 DAYS.

THAT'S FINE. SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTENSION UNTIL JUNE 29TH, 2023.

DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD ONE. THANKS.

YEP. JUST NEED A FINE.

OH, I'M SORRY. AND THEN IT'LL BE $50 A DAY PER DAY THAT THE VIOLATION IS STILL IN PLACE AFTER THE 29TH.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CB2 374523 AT 861 FULDA AVENUE NORTHWEST.

AND THE CODE OFFICER IS ANJELICA SNEED.

JESSICA SNEED, CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE VIOLATIONS THAT EXIST ARE STILL THE SAME, WHICH IS EXTERIOR MAINTENANCE, TO WIT, A STRUCTURAL FIRE.

THE LETTER WAS DELIVERED CERTIFIED MAIL.

OKAY. AND WHAT WAS THE WHAT WAS THE THE CASE NUMBER ON THIS AGAIN? OKAY. IT'S CASE NUMBER 237452, THREE.

AND THE RESPONDENT IS HERE.

SIR, IF YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

JESSE MUJICA. AND THIS IS MY WIFE, ANDREA MUJICA.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.

UM, SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

SO WE HAD A PLUMBING ISSUE WITH THE HOSE SPIGOT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, AND WE CALLED A PLUMBER TO COME OUT AND FIX IT.

AND WHILE THEY WERE WELDING, THE HOUSE, CAUGHT ON FIRE AND.

YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE HOUSE BURNT UP BEFORE IT WAS PUT OUT.

WE WANT TO GET BACK IN THE HOUSE, OBVIOUSLY, AS SOON AS WE CAN.

BUT WE'RE IN A BATTLE WITH INSURANCE, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REPAIR IT YET.

OKAY. YOU'VE BEEN TALKING WITH YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY ABOUT ABOUT GETTING IT REPAIRED.

YES, CORRECT. WE ACTUALLY HAVE QUOTES AND WE HAVE DEPOSITS WITH CONTRACTORS.

TO BEAT IT BACK TO GET IT REPAIRED RIGHT AWAY, BUT THEY JUST HAVEN'T RELEASED A SCENE YET.

THE INSURANCE IS JUST THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY OUT AND THEY'RE JUST DELAYING EVERYTHING.

SO IT'S JUST BEEN A NIGHTMARE.

WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN AGAIN? MARCH 6TH. OKAY.

AND YOU SAID INSURANCE HASN'T RELEASED TO THE SCENE? YEAH, THEY HAVEN'T GAVE US PERMISSION.

WE'RE WORKING WITH A PUBLIC ADJUSTER AND THEY'RE NEGOTIATING AND WE'RE ABOUT TO ACTUALLY SIGN ON WITH AN ATTORNEY BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANYWHERE.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT LIVING IN THE HOUSE AT THE MOMENT? NO, NOT CURRENTLY IT'S NOT.

IS THE HOUSE? SEALED UP OR.

YEAH, WE PUT UP BOARDS AND I PUT UP PLASTIC EVEN ON TOP JUST TO KEEP WATER OUT.

NO MORE, NO FURTHER DAMAGE.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW WITH THAT.

UM. I'VE.

HAS ANYBODY YOU SAID YOU HAD SOME ESTIMATES, CORRECT? YEAH, WE HAVE A FEW OF THEM WITH US TODAY FOR LIKE I HAVE THE ROOF CONTRACT.

WE HAVE A DEPOSIT WITH THEM AS WELL.

AND I HAVE A QUOTE FROM A CONTRACTOR TO REPAIR THE SIDING AND THE EXTERIOR.

HOW LONG DID THEY SAY IT WOULD TAKE? ONCE. ONCE THEY ACTUALLY GOT STARTED ON THE WORK, THEY THEY WOULD NOT GIVE US A NUMBER ON THAT YET.

THE CONTRACTOR. SO I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT TIME.

ALL RIGHT. BUT DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO AN EXTENSION?

[00:20:06]

I KNOW.

AND IT'S SECURED.

OKAY. YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GIVING YOU AN EXTENSION.

CALCULATING THE TIME SEEMS TO BE SEEMS TO BE TOUGH BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING SEVERAL VARIABLES.

WHAT ABOUT THE THE ADJUSTER? THEY GIVE YOU ANY IDEA OF HOW LONG THESE THINGS NORMALLY TAKE FOR THEM? HE ACTUALLY TODAY JUST SAID HE CAN.

HE'S DONE AS MUCH AS HE CAN DO AND TURNING IT OVER TO AN ATTORNEY.

SO MAYBE SIX MONTHS.

BUT I KNOW THAT ONCE THEY HAVE EVERYTHING DOCUMENTED, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO START WORK EVEN BEFORE EVERYTHING'S SETTLED.

SO AT LEAST WE CAN GET THAT STARTED AND GET THAT THE EXTERIOR BOARDED UP AND, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECT WAY BACK TO NORMAL CONDITION.

UM, YEAH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS PLACE HAS BEEN ENOUGH OF A HEADACHE FOR YOU SIX MONTHS, I THINK.

I THINK THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE FOR NOW.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU A SIX MONTH EXTENSION, WHICH IS TILL DECEMBER 11TH, 2023, TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

AND THEN IT'LL BE A $50 A DAY FINE PER VIOLATION FOR EVERY DAY AFTER THAT THAT IT'S IN COMPLIANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CIB 2374823 AT 406 SARI ROAD SOUTHWEST.

AND THE CODE OFFICER IS LISA WEGGELAND.

CUT OFFICER LISA WEGGELAND CITY OF PALM BAY.

VIOLATION ON THE PROPERTY STILL EXISTS AND THE RESPONDENT IS HERE TO ASK FOR AN EXTENSION.

AND I'M LOOKING AT PICTURES.

IF IT LOOKS LIKE A FENCE, THIS LOOKS LIKE THE FENCE IS TORN DOWN.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME TEMPORARY STRUCTURES IN THERE.

CAN YOU GIVE ME A. SO THERE NEVER WAS A FENCE INSTALLED.

THAT WAS SOME OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION.

SHE IS WANTING TO GET A FENCE INSTALLED OR GET WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WHAT SHE HAS UP IS SHE THINKS IS OPAQUE.

SO I TOLD HER TO GET WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO GET TO START THAT PROCESS.

WHAT ABOUT THE RUBBISH ACCUMULATION? HAS THAT BEEN FIXED? THAT WAS CLEANED UP.

THERE WAS STUFF IN THE FRONT OF THE YARD, SO THAT IS.

COMPLIED, BUT SHE STILL HAS A RECREATIONAL TRAILER IN THE FRONT DRIVEWAY.

SHE MOVED. THERE WAS A SECOND ONE THAT SHE MOVED TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

I'M BASICALLY I HAVE HEALTH ISSUES AND I JUST GOT ALL THE DOCTORS.

I JUST NEED TIME TO, ONE, GET THE MONEY TO SIGN UP FOR THE.

PERSON TO COME OUT SO I CAN GET A FENCE UP.

SO I'M JUST ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION TO BASICALLY GET THE MONEY TOGETHER AND MY HEALTH TO ACTUALLY GET IT DONE.

UM. HAVE YOU SPOKEN WITH ANY? ANY CONTRACTORS ABOUT INSTALLING THE FENCE? I'M A CONTRACTOR MYSELF, BUT I HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO BUILD THE FENCE.

YEAH, I MEAN, PHYSICAL WISE AND MONEY WISE, I JUST DON'T HAVE FENCES THAT ARE EXPENSIVE.

ONE, THE MATERIAL JUST TO INSTALL IT IS ANOTHER THING.

SO I HAVE THE ACTUAL FENCE IN MY BACK YARD.

I ACTUALLY GOT IT FOR FREE LIKE.

A WEEK AGO. BUT MY TENDONITIS, I JUST GOT LIKE SEVEN X-RAYS THIS MORNING, CAME BACK.

SO IT'S JUST FINANCIAL WISE AND HEALTH WISE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S JUST I JUST NEED LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO HEAL SO I CAN INSTALL THE THING.

MRS SAID THAT THE RUBBISH AND GARBAGE ACCUMULATION.

THAT ONE HAS BEEN RESOLVED.

YEAH. THERE'S NOTHING IN MY FRONT YARD BUT GRASS.

AND WHAT ABOUT BECAUSE THERE'S THREE.

THERE'S THREE VIOLATIONS ON HERE.

YOU GOT THE RUBBISH ACCUMULATION, THEN THE RVS AND THEN ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

WHICH IS MAYBE A LITTLE REDUNDANT OR THE OTHER ONE, BUT HAS HAS THAT BEEN ALL TAKEN CARE OF? YEAH. I MOVED MY UTILITY TRAILER TO THE BACK.

I MOVED MY MOTORCYCLE BACK, MY MOTORCYCLE TRAILER BACK.

I DO HAVE A UTILITY TRAILER THAT'S IN FRONT OF MY SUV.

I CAN MOVE IN THE BACK TO THE SIDE AND PUT THE FENCE IN FRONT OF THE HEART TO.

I'LL PUT A FENCE AROUND THE WHOLE EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE. IT LOOKS LIKE IN THIS PICTURE I'M LOOKING AT.

IT'S LIKE THERE ARE SOME TRASH AT THE CORNER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

YEAH, THAT'S ALL.

THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

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ALL BEEN TAKEN AWAY? YEAH, THERE'S NOTHING THERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SOUNDS GOOD. UM.

NOW, THIS FENCE, THIS I GUESS IT'S LIKE FABRIC.

DID YOU JUST PUT THAT UP? IT'S ACTUALLY A MESH FENCE FROM HOME DEPOT.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

IT'S AN OPAQUE FANCY.

JUST THE FENCE THAT I GOT WAS.

AS THE METAL FENCE I JUST HAVE NOW.

I PUT THE POST IN AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THIS I CONCRETED MY POST IN.

I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD TO HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING I HAVE TO DO RIGHT AFTER THIS.

SO GET APPROVAL.

THEN I'LL PUT THE FENCE AND THEN THAT'S OBLIQUE FENCING.

UNLESS THE PLAN DEVELOPER SAYS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN I'LL HAVE TO GET SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO PUT UP THERE.

BUT IS THAT THE FENCE? IS THAT THE FENCING THAT YOU SAID WAS DONATED TO, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT'S IN MY BACKYARD AND THE TRAILER, YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

IT'S INSIDE THE UTILITY TRAILER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

CHAIN LINK FENCE WON'T WORK, RIGHT? CORRECT. OPAQUE, RIGHT.

BUT THE CHAIN LINK FENCE WOULD HOLD THE OBLIQUE UP.

SO LIKE IF I PUT CHAIN LINK FENCE UP AND PUT OBLIQUE ON IT.

SO I SAID THAT'S WHY I ADVISED HER TO GET WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR SPECS ARE GOING TO BE OR WHAT THEY WILL APPROVE.

SO SO WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS YOU BASICALLY PUT THE CHAIN LINK FENCE UP WITH WHAT'S ALREADY HERE, AND THEN THAT WILL.

OPAQUE FENCE, RIGHT? UNLESS HE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S OBLIQUE FENCING, WHICH AGAIN IS BOUGHT FROM LOWE'S OR HOME DEPOT.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT'S UNDER.

BUT IF THEY WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I'LL TRY TO FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT, AFFORDABLE.

IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, I NEED TO GATHER GETTING IT DONE.

HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK YOU NEED? I MEAN, RIGHT NOW I NEED AT LEAST 90 DAYS TO LIKE I'M BY 90 DAYS.

I'LL FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.

IT'LL BE UP. BE ROCKED OUT.

YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? NO. IS THERE ANY.

SAFETY HAZARD TO ADJOINING PROPERTIES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

DO YOU HAVE A VACANT LOT NEXT TO YOU? NO. THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET.

THIS ONE? OH, NO, THEY'RE.

THEY'RE IN PENNSYLVANIA.

THEY LEAVE FOR THE SUMMER.

THAT'S SANDY AND CRAIG.

AND THEY'RE THE ONES THAT I MEAN, THERE IS A RESIDENCE NEXT TO HER, YOU KNOW, WITH GOING INTO HURRICANE SEASON.

BUT I THINK IT TAKES SOME TIME FOR THE FENCE TO GET INSTALLED ANYWAYS.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

HOW LONG WAS FINANCIALLY CAN SHE GET THE FENCE INSTALLED? SO I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE EXTENSION.

BUT AS WE ARE GOING INTO HURRICANE SEASON, SHE DOES HAVE A LOT OF THINGS IN HER BACKYARD.

SO I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW.

WELL, YOU'VE BEEN YOU'VE BEEN COOPERATING AND GETTING RID OF THE TRASH AND THE OTHER TWO VIOLATIONS.

SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GIVING YOU AN EXTENSION FOR THIS ONE.

WE CAN WE CAN GO WITH 90 DAYS, WHICH WILL BE SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023.

JUST. JUST TO WARN YOU, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT I CAN CONSIDER FINANCIAL DIFFICULTY AS A AS A REASON FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION.

IF THERE ISN'T IF THERE ISN'T PROGRESS BEING MADE BY THE TIME ESPECIALLY SINCE SEPTEMBER IS THE THAT'S WHEN IT, YOU KNOW, HURRICANE SEASON GETS TO BE A BIG YEAH, IT'S MY HEALTH THAT AFFECTS MY FINANCIAL STABILITY RIGHT NOW SO THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

SO WE WILL DO WE'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTENSION UNTIL SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023, AND THEN $50 A DAY FINE FOR THE VIOLATION EVERY DAY AFTER THAT.

OKAY. COPY THAT. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CEB 237732, THREE AT 3375.

BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

SOUTHEAST. AND THE CODE OFFICER IS.

LISA WEGGELAND.

COURT OFFICER LISA WEGGELAND, CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE VIOLATION ON THE PROPERTY STILL EXISTS.

THE RESPONDENT IS HERE.

HER ATTORNEY IS HERE. AND ALSO SEVERAL RESIDENTS THAT LIVE AMONGST THE PROPERTY ARE HERE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. CAN YOU KIND OF EXPLAIN THE THE VIOLATIONS A LITTLE BIT TO ME?

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BECAUSE. YES. SO LOOKING AT ALL THESE PICTURES AND.

I UNDERSTAND IT'S A GOLF COURSE.

IT'S A GOLF COURSE THAT'S NO LONGER ACTIVE.

BUT THERE'S NO FENCE THAT'S BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THE GOLF COURSE.

SO THE RESIDENTS THERE'S SEVERAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT VEGETATION OVER GROWING, BEING VERY UNSIGHTLY.

LOTS OF VERMIN AND STUFF LIVE WITHIN THE TALL GRASS AND EVERYTHING THAT COME ON TO THE RESIDENTS PROPERTY.

SO IT'S CITED UNDER THE NUISANCE VEG ORDINANCE.

NOW, THE I'M LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE HERE, AND IT'S WITHIN 15FT OF REAR LOT LINES OR OF ADJACENT IMPROVED PROPERTIES.

IS THIS DOES THE CITY CONSIDER THIS ONE VIOLATION OR IS EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT TO ITS ONE VIOLATION BECAUSE IT'S ONE PARCEL? SO BUT I DO TAKE DOWN ALL THE COMPLAINANTS ADDRESSES AND ADD THEM TO THAT CASE.

SO THE RESPONDENT FIRST OR HER ATTORNEY? WELL, SHE'S REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL, SO I'LL JUST.

THE ATTORNEY. AFTERNOON.

NAME'S JACK SPIRA.

5205 BABCOCK STREET.

I REPRESENT THE RESPONDENT JOY LLC.

MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S BEEN COMPLAINTS FILED BY MANY THE HOMEOWNERS.

THEY'RE UNHAPPY THE GOLF COURSE HAS BEEN CLOSED DOWN.

ALSO, MY CLIENT RECEIVED THE CITATION.

THEY'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH VALERIE.

I DON'T THINK THEY'VE HAD A CHANCE TO CONTACT WITH LISA, BUT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIMES WITH VALERIE, I THINK ALMOST TWO WEEKS AGO, THEY SENT PICTURES TO HER SHOWING THE GOLF COURSE HAD BEEN CUT.

THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY ATTEMPTED TO SEND OUT PICTURES OF SOME ISSUES THEY HAD THE OTHER NIGHT AND IT NEVER WENT THROUGH.

WHEN I SPOKE TO HER, THEY ACKNOWLEDGED IT NEVER WENT THROUGH.

SO AS OF THIS TIME, MY CLIENT IS NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AS FAR AS SHE KNOWS, SHE'S HAD IT.

SHE'S HAD THE PROPERTY CUT AND SHE'S NOT AWARE OF ANY ISSUES THAT EXIST AT THE PRESENT TIME.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ANXIOUS TO HEAR WHAT WHAT THE SPECIFIC ISSUE WAS.

IT'S OUTSTANDING.

I THINK YOU ALSO POINTED OUT SOME OF THE ISSUES OR AT LEAST SOME SPECIFICS IN THE IN THE CODE OR THE SECTION THAT'S BEING CITED.

IT'S IT'S SORT OF UNCLEAR.

IT SAYS 15FT OF SIDE AND REAR LOT LINES THAT HAVE AN ADJACENT IMPROVED PROPERTY ON THE SIDE INDICATED BELOW.

AGAIN, THIS IS A GOLF COURSE.

YOU CAN'T TELL WHAT IS THE REAR AND SIDE LOT LINES OF THE SIDE INDICATED BELOW BECAUSE IT JUST GIVES 130, 40, 50, 60 ACRES OF PROPERTY THERE.

NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, MY CLIENT HAS GONE AHEAD AND HIRED SOMEONE.

IT'S BEEN CUT. SHE SENT PICTURES.

SO OUR POSITION IS THAT WE'RE NOT IN VIOLATION.

WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT AWARE OF ANY VIOLATION EXISTS AT THE PRESENT TIME.

OKAY. WHEN WAS THE WHEN WAS THE LAST CUT? THE LAST, I THINK AT LEAST FROM WHEN I SAW SOME EMAIL GOING TO VALERIE WAS AT THE END OF THE MONTH SAYING IT'S BEEN CUT.

I THINK I THINK VALERIE POINTED OUT A COUPLE OF OTHER ISSUES, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN CUT.

I KNOW AT LEAST AT LEAST LAST WEEK SOMETIME THE CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS WAS ADVISED THAT EVERYTHING HAD BEEN EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

OKAY. UM, LISA, COULD YOU COULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO THAT REAL QUICK? SO I'VE GOT A DATE OF VIOLATION OF 515.

CORRECT? THAT. GO AHEAD.

AND. PROPERTY OWNER SAYS THAT THEY DID CUT THE LAWN WITHIN IT SOUNDS LIKE SIR WITHIN.

LAST WEEK IS THAT WHEN THE FINAL CUT WAS MADE, IT HAD BEEN CUT.

THERE HAVE BEEN. CORRESPONDENCE AS OF THE 1ST OF JUNE NOTIFYING THE CITY OF CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT HAD BEEN CUT, SENT PICTURES.

CERTAINLY MY CLIENT IS HERE, HAS PICTURES TO SHOW YOU.

AND CERTAINLY AS OF LAST WEEK, CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS NOTIFIED.

I'M SORRY. AS OF LAST WEEK, CODE ENFORCE WAS NOTIFIED THAT EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THEY KNEW HAD BEEN CUT AND FINALIZED.

LISA, WERE YOU WERE YOU DID THEY WERE YOU ABLE TO SEE PICTURES OR OBSERVE THE PROPERTY? SO I DID OBSERVE THE PROPERTY.

THE OWNER WAS KIND ENOUGH TO LET US DRIVE THE PROPERTY SO WE COULD SEE FURTHER IN THAN FROM THE STREET.

THE PICTURES THAT ARE DATED IS BECAUSE I HAD TO PREPARE THE CASE.

MISS HEATHER WAS AWARE THAT I WAS GOING FORWARD WITH THIS.

I OBSERVED THE PROPERTY AS OF YESTERDAY, SO THERE'S STILL SOME AREAS OF CONCERN.

BUT YES, SHE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH US.

SHE'S BEEN SENDING US MULTIPLE EMAILS WHENEVER SHE'S HAD AN ISSUE WITH EQUIPMENT, MAINTENANCE AND STUFF.

SO SHE'S BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH US.

AND WHEN YOU SAY AREAS OF CONCERN, WHERE WHERE WOULD THOSE AREAS BE LOCATED? SOME OF THE OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID THAT THEIR LOT, LOT BEHIND THEM HAS NOT BEEN CUT.

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SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S SEVERAL THAT ARE STILL HERE, BUT A BIG MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN CUT.

OKAY. I THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS TO SPECIFICALLY LET US KNOW IF THERE'S AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CUT SPECIFICALLY THAT FALLS UNDER THIS CODE SECTION SO THAT WE CAN WE HAVE NOT BEEN AWARE OF ANYTHING.

THERE'S BEEN NO CORRESPONDENCE TO MY CLIENT NOTIFYING HER THAT THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CUT.

OKAY. UM, AT.

AT THIS TIME, SIR, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY, I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN THIS UP TO COMMENTS FROM THE FROM THE PUBLIC.

BUT I'D LIKE TO DO ALSO IS PRESENT HAVE MY CLIENT SHOW PICTURES THAT SHE HAS OF THE CONDITION.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT PICTURES YOU'RE LOOKING AT OF THE CONDITION OF THE COURSE THAT HAS EXISTS RIGHT NOW.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE AN ABANDONED GOLF COURSE, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

BUT THE THE THING IS, WITH THE PICTURES THAT I SEE, I CAN'T REALLY TELL IF I'M IF I'M LOOKING AT 15FT OF A LOT LINE BECAUSE THE THE THE CODE DOESN'T EXTEND FARTHER THAN 15FT INTO THE PROPERTY.

CORRECT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I DON'T KNOW IF THESE PICTURES ARE GOING TO ARE TOO MUCH USE TO ME.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

COULD I RESERVE THE TIME TO CROSS EXAMINE ANY ANYONE TESTIFYING? IT'S A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS PERMITTED.

YEAH, YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN.

OKAY. I HAVEN'T HAD ANYONE ASK ME THAT YET, BUT THE FIRST TIME.

THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. DID WE HAVE A SIGN UP LIST FOR.

FIRST TIME. OKAY.

HAS HAS EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK BEEN SWORN IN? BECAUSE I KNOW I SAW A FEW PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T STANDING.

LET'S START OFF.

LET'S START OFF WITH IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT'S SORT OF BEEN DESIGNATED AS THE.

NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER. WELL, SIR, IF YOU.

NO, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYBODY IN A IN AN ORDER THAT MAKES SENSE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DANIEL CORCORAN.

I LIVE AT 2124 WIN BROOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATOR.

THIS IS BASICALLY A LOOSELY BOUND GROUP OF FRUSTRATED HOMEOWNERS THAT NOTED THAT THE GOLF COURSE CLOSED ON JUNE 19TH, 2022.

SO WE'RE WITHIN FIVE DAYS NOW OF A ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF CLOSURE OF THE COURSE.

IN THAT TIME, BEHIND MY HOUSE, WE'VE SEEN EXACTLY TWO MOWINGS, ONE ON JANUARY 24TH AND ONE IS MOST RECENTLY, AS MUST HAVE BEEN EITHER MAY 30TH OR MAY 31ST.

WE IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC CODE VIOLATION AREAS, WE MY MY WIFE ACTUALLY PROVIDED THE FIRST COMPLAINT TO CODE COMPLIANCE. AND WE THANK VERY MUCH MRS, MISS WETTERLUND AND MISS PARSONS FOR THEIR INTERACTIVE WORK WITH US COMING BACK AND FORTH.

WE PROVIDED NO LESS THAN A DOZEN EMAILS TO THEM.

MY WIFE, MARIE ACTUALLY MADE THE COMPLAINT BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH, AND I GUESS IT FINALLY GOT FORMALIZED IN MAY.

SO WE DID A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE THE AREAS OF COMPLAINT, WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH.

WE'VE WORKED WITH ATTORNEY EDWARDS TO GET SOME UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT WHAT THE AREAS ARE.

WE WE THINK WE'VE ESTABLISHED THIS AS IMPROVED REAL PROPERTY, WHICH REQUIRES THE ENTIRE COURSE TO FORMER COURSE TO BE MAINTAINED AND MOWED. WE ALSO HAVE TAKEN A LOOK AT THE BLIGHT ORDINANCES AND WE'VE MADE SPECIFIC COMPLAINTS THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE FOR SEVERAL THINGS, INCLUDING THE CONDITION OF THE PONDS.

THE PONDS HAVE NOT BEEN TREATED.

THEY'RE NOW COVERED WITH LOTS OF OF VEGETATION, LILY PADS.

WE'VE ALSO COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN THE WHEN THE PROPERTY IS OPERATING AS A GOLF COURSE, THE THE REEDS AROUND EACH OF THE PONDS HAVE BEEN MOWED DOWN TO THE AREA OF THE COURSE. THEY'VE COME NOWHERE CLOSE TO THAT.

AND THIS IS THESE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE'RE SEEING RODENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE CAUSING PROBLEMS. WE'VE ALSO COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE WERE SIGNS THAT WERE WERE PARTIALLY REMOVED ALONG BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

THANKFULLY, THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

SO WE THANK THEM FOR THEIR THEIR HELP ON THAT.

AND THERE'S A STRETCH OF WINBROOK DRIVE WHICH ACTUALLY ABUTS THAT WINBROOK DRIVE IS A GATED COMMUNITY AND WE INSIST ON ALL OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY GOING AND MAINTAINING THEIR PROPERTY. YET THIS IS THIS IS NOT BEEN TREATED AT ALL IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF MOWING.

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SO THAT'S GETTING SPORADIC, SPORADIC, SPORADIC ATTENTION.

SO WE WE WENT BACK AND FORTH MANY, MANY TIMES.

WE PROVIDED LOTS OF PICTURES.

INDEED, THE COURSE WAS MOST RECENTLY MOWED RIGHT AROUND MEMORIAL DAY.

A KIND OF EQUIPMENT THAT WAS USED WAS LARGE.

IT DIDN'T PROVIDE A UNIFORM ABILITY TO GO AND CUT AT THE 12, 12 INCH LEVEL ALL THE WAY ACROSS.

SO THERE'S SOME AREAS WHERE THE EQUIPMENT CAME IN AND IT'S ACTUALLY SCALPED THE LANDSCAPE IN SOME AREAS WHERE IT DIDN'T COME CLOSE TO 12IN.

SO WE CAN WE'VE NOTED THAT THERE'S THERE'S SOME AREAS AROUND THAT THAT HAVEN'T HAVEN'T HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO REACH THAT THE PONDS REMAIN UNTREATED. WE'RE UPSET ABOUT THAT.

WE'VE ALSO HAD ONE ONE HOMEOWNER THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT VINES.

I OFFERED A PICTURES TO TO CODE COMPLIANCE, BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT THEY'VE THEY'VE GOT MORE THAN THEY CAN HANDLE IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL COMING THEIR WAY.

I WOULD REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS 202 ACRES AND WE DID A COUNT YESTERDAY.

THERE WERE THERE ARE 301.

HOMES WHICH BACK UP, AT LEAST IN OUR IN OUR COUNT OF OF THE MAPS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THE GIS MAPS WITHIN PALM BAY 301. HOMES WHICH BACK UP TO THE TO THAT PROPERTY.

SO CONCEIVABLY, YOU COULD HAVE 301.

INTERESTED PARTIES ALL PROVIDING COMPLAINTS AGAINST THIS AGAINST THIS HOMEOWNER.

OUT WITH REGARDS TO YOUR PROPERTY.

HAVE WHEN THEY MODE WAS THAT DID YOU NOTICE THE MOWING BEING WITHIN 15FT OF YOUR PROPERTY LINE? UM, I WILL SAY WITHIN 15FT OF THE PROPERTY LINE IS AN AREA THAT SCALP, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN AREA THAT IT'S NOT A TEE BOX.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THE THE PROPERTY IS VERY UNEVEN THERE.

SO AT THE LOWER END, IT'S SCALPED IN THE MIDDLE.

IT'S IT'S NOT BEEN MOWED BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT COULDN'T MOW IT WASN'T THAT DESIGNED TO MOW CLOSELY TO THE CONTOUR OF OF THE LANDSCAPE.

SO THEY'RE NOT USING LAWNMOWERS.

THEY'RE USING THEY'RE USING INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT TO TO TO TO TO DO THE CUTTING.

RIGHT, SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? I'M SURE MY NEIGHBORS CAN SUPPLEMENT WHAT I'VE.

WHAT I'VE PROVIDED. OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT. OR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO.

JUST A.

POINT OF ORDER. THIS GENTLEMAN TALKED TO ME OUTSIDE, IDENTIFIED HIMSELF AS THE HOA PRESIDENT.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS CORRECT. AND THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF OUR CONVERSATION.

I CALLED YOU UP BEFORE THE OTHER THE OTHER RESIDENTS JUST BECAUSE BECAUSE YOU IDENTIFIED YOURSELF AS THE HOA PRESIDENT.

SO. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MADE SENSE IN THE ORDER.

THANK YOU. ROBERT SACHSE 1796, WINBURN DRIVE.

THE CITY OBVIOUSLY VOTED AND TO MANDATE THAT THE GOLF COURSE CUT PROPERTY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DAN PROBABLY FORGOT TO MENTION IS SO MUCH STUFF IS THAT I'M HEARING FROM NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE 173 HOMES IN MY HOA AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SNAKES COMING ACROSS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WILDLIFE AND EVERYTHING ELSE, IT ALSO MADE A CONVINCING ARGUMENT TO THE CITY THAT IF YOU DON'T MOW YOUR YOUR PROPERTY UNDER 17 HIGHWAYS OR THE ONES THAT ARE AROUND THAT AREA, YOU CAN BE FINED UP TO $1,000.

WHEREAS THE GOLF COURSE, THE OWNERS OF THE GOLF COURSE TO BE RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS.

NOW, I HAD GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH JOY LLC.

I HAVE TWO LOTS BEHIND ME THAT, IN MY OPINION, JOY DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT GOLF COURSE OWNS THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THE CITY HAS.

IT IS THESE TWO LOTS BEHIND MY HOUSE THAT'S IN THE SUMMERFIELD AREA, OUR GOLF COURSE PROPERTY.

NOW, I HAVE BEEN MOWING THAT WITH A TRACTOR FOR FIVE YEARS.

JUST RECENTLY I DECIDED TO LET IT GROW BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE A RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN.

EVERYBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS GOT TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY.

HERE'S TWO EMPTY LOTS.

I ALSO GOT TREE LIMBS IN THERE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

WHEN IT WAS ACTIVE, SHE, THE GOLF COURSE OWNER, HAD ME CONTACT ONE OF THEIR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE IN THERE TO COME BY

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AND MOW IT, BUT SINCE THAT TIME I'VE BEEN DOING IT.

SO THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE AND A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE HAVE CHILDREN OUT THERE AND I HAD ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS TELL ME THERE'S A CORAL SNAKE OUT THERE BECAUSE SHE GOT WEEDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

THIS IS SIMPLY UNSAFE.

IT'S DANGEROUS.

AND IF YOU WALKED OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, I WALKED THERE.

I WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY MORNING.

YOU'LL SEE WEEDS CHEST HIGH ON PROPERTY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MOWED.

SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND.

I CAN SEE. SIR, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT WHEN YOU SAY ON PROPERTY THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MOWED, ARE YOU TALKING WITHIN 15FT OF THE PROPERTY LINE? NEGATIVE. I'M TALKING ABOUT PART OF THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY THAT A MOLE COULD HAVE GONE OVER AND DID NOT.

SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT'S TAKEN ALMOST A YEAR FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND GOING BACK AND FORTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS LAND DEVELOPED PROPERLY, BUT WE ALSO I'M SEEING A LACK OF OWNERSHIP.

I'M SEEING A LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY.

IN MY OWN OPINION.

I'M SEEING A LACK OF LET'S JUST LET LET'S JUST RUN IT IN THE GROUND AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

AND IN MY OPINION, FOR THE LAWYERS OUT THERE, IN MY OPINION, LET'S RUN THIS IN THE GROUND AND THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT IT'S A DISGRACE.

SO I CHALLENGE ANYBODY TO LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW.

AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS PHILLIP CORCORAN.

I LIVE ALSO ON WINBROOK DRIVE.

I HOST AN ORGANIZATION CALLED PROTECT BAYSIDE LAKES.

I CHOSE TO LIMIT THE ATTENDANCE AT THIS MEETING TODAY TO BE EFFICIENT.

BUT I CAN FILL THIS ROOM.

OKAY. AND I HAVE.

I HAVE IN THE PAST.

OKAY. AS YOU KNOW, THE GOLF COURSE CLOSED ALMOST A YEAR AGO.

SOME OF THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN MOWED ONCE WHILE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROPERTY MOWED TWICE.

MANY PLACES HAVE NEVER BEEN MOWED.

THE CITY AGREES THAT THE OWNER HAS BEEN DOING LESS THAN THE BARE MINIMUM IN MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY, TRYING TO STAY JUST ONE STEP AHEAD OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND NOW IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THEY'RE BLAMING THE EMAIL SYSTEM NOW THAT IT RAINS NEARLY EVERY DAY, MOWING WILL BE REQUIRED BY WEEKLY.

THERE ARE OVER 300 HOMES THAT BORDER DIRECTLY ON THE GOLF COURSE.

THE PROPERTY VALUES OF ALL OF THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE CONDITIONS AT THE FORMER GOLF COURSE.

ONE OF THE OWNERS OF PROPERTY ON THE GOLF COURSE IS DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY.

HE AGREES THAT THE PROPERTY THAT HE OWNS HAS LOST VALUE DUE TO THE LACK OF THE MAINTENANCE ON THE GROUNDS.

IT IS NOT AN OVERSTATEMENT TO SAY THAT THE PROPERTY VALUES OF EVERYBODY IN BAYSIDE LAKES AND IN FACT ALL OF PALM BAY HAVE BEEN NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE CONDITIONS AT THE FORMER GOLF COURSE. THE PEOPLE OF BAYSIDE LAKES WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE MAXIMUM FINE BE ASSIGNED AND IMPOSED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAGISTRATE.

THANKS FOR HAVING THESE MEETINGS.

TIM BLAND, 1992 LYNBROOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST RIGHT IN THE SAME SUMMERFIELD DEVELOPMENT THAT OUR PRESIDENT OF OUR HOA SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER. SIR, YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN WE SWORE YOU IN, SO CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OH, I'D BETTER TELL THE TRUTH, HUH? SO I'M RIGHT ON THE FIRST GREEN OF THE GOLF COURSE I BOUGHT.

I BOUGHT OUR HOUSE BECAUSE I HAD THE NICE OPEN SPACE AND A GOLF COURSE.

I WAS A MEMBER OF THE GOLF COURSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY I SIT IN MY LANAI AND I SEE NOT NOT SO MUCH THE GRASS GROWING, BUT THE WEEDS.

THE WEEDS GET UP HERE BEFORE THE GRASS GETS OVER 12IN.

AND IT'S JUST EXTREMELY UNSIGHTLY.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF SNAKES.

MAINLY BLACK RACERS, WHICH ARE HARMLESS.

THEY HELP WITH THE MICE AND THE RATS AND STUFF.

SO I DON'T I DON'T MIND THAT SO MUCH, BUT I LOOK OUT OVER THE FIRST HOLE, THE SECOND HOLE, THE NINTH HOLE, I CAN SEE THE EIGHTH GREEN, I CAN SEE OVER BY THE 17TH HOLE.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S A DISASTER.

UM, IF I WERE TO TRY AND SELL MY HOUSE, I'M SURE I WOULD LOSE VALUE.

I DON'T WANT TO SELL MY HOUSE.

I DON'T INTEND TO SELL MY HOUSE.

I HOPE. I HOPE THE PROPERTY IS SOLD TO A HONEST BUYER THAT'S GOING TO REHABILITATE THE GOLF COURSE.

I PLAY GOLF OUT AT THE HABITAT AND THAT PLACE IS PACKED.

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IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PLAYERS IN BREVARD COUNTY, PALM BAY AREA TO PLAY GOLF.

I BELIEVE THAT PLACE WOULD JUST BE BUSY AS HECK UNDER THE RIGHT OWNERSHIP.

NOW, WITH RESPECT TO THE PORTION THAT ABUTS YOUR PROPERTY.

YES. HAVE YOU NOTICED, HAS IT BEEN MOWED WITHIN 15FT OF YOUR PROPERTY? 15FT? IT PROBABLY HAS BEEN 15FT.

IT'S BEEN MOWED. BUT AGAIN, NOW THE WEEDS ARE AT LEAST TWO FEET HIGH.

AND I THINK IT WAS JUST MOWED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

AGAIN, THE GRASS ISN'T TWO FEET HIGH, IT'S THE WEEDS WHICH ARE EVERYWHERE.

PRETTY UNSIGHTLY. I SEE THE WHOLE FIRST FAIRWAY, THE FIRST GREEN, THE SECOND TEE.

AS I SIT IN MY LANE, I.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR? NO, I DON'T. BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ISSUE? I'LL TRY TO UNPACK THIS, BUT I MAY BE ABLE TO NARROW DOWN SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE BEFORE BEFORE YOU GO CROSS-EXAMINING ANYONE, I JUST WANT I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO THE ROOM THE THE LIMITS OF MY AUTHORITY.

SO I SIT HERE IN A QUASI JUDICIAL CAPACITY, WHICH MEANS THAT I ACT.

I'M NOT APPOINTED AS A JUDGE, BUT I ACT AS A JUDGE.

BUT ONLY AS FAR AS THE CITY CODE GOES.

AND SO MY AUTHORITY IS VERY LIMITED.

I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ASSESS FINES.

I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY THAT A PROPERTY IS IS IN COMPLIANCE OR NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

I HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT EXTENSIONS.

THAT BEING SAID. THE ABILITY FOR ME TO ASSESS A FINE OR GRANT.

AN EXTENSION IS LIMITED TO THE BLACK AND WHITE LETTER OF WHAT'S OF WHAT'S IN THE CODE.

WHICH IS WHY AFTER AFTER I LET EVERYONE SPEAK, I TRIED TO MAKE IT A POINT TO ASK EVERYONE IF THE 15FT WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY HAD BEEN HAD BEEN MOWED.

BECAUSE AS I'M READING THE AS I'M READING THIS SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE OF THE CODE, THAT'S THE 15FT IS WHERE MY AUTHORITY ENDS.

I. I CAN'T ASSESS ANY FINES OR TAKE ANY ACTION FOR WHAT HAPPENS.

16. YOUR PROPERTY BASED ON BASED ON WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF.

BECAUSE THERE WAS ALSO NOTICE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS.

ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS CONSIDERED TO BE IMPROVED OR UNIMPROVED PROPERTY, AND IF IT IS IMPROVED PROPERTY, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER IS HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WHAT SHE HAS TO HAS TO DO.

THE CITY. THE CITY NOTIFIED HER OF A VIOLATION FOR UNIMPROVED PROPERTY.

WHICH IS WHICH IS WHAT I'M READING ON THE STATEMENT OF VIOLATION NOW.

WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S CORRECT IS NOT IS NOT BEFORE ME TODAY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS NEVER GIVEN NOTICE OF VIOLATION OF A VIOLATION OF AN IMPROVED PROPERTY.

SO I.

I TRULY DO SYMPATHIZE WITH THE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO PONDS THAT ARE PROBABLY ATTRACTING A LOT OF MOSQUITOES AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HASN'T HAD PROPER NOTICE OF.

AND THESE AND THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS ARE THEY'RE SPELLED OUT IN THE CODE AND THEY'RE CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED.

SO. UM, WHEN WHEN YOU DISCUSS THINGS LIKE THE PONDS OR FALLEN TREES OR THE FAIRWAYS BEING OVERRUN AND YOU MIGHT SAY TO YOURSELF, WELL, CLEARLY THE PROPERTY OWNER KNOWS ABOUT THIS.

SHE HAS NOTICE BECAUSE WE'VE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.

THAT MAY BE TRUE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE PROCEEDINGS, AS FAR AS THESE PROCEEDINGS GO.

THE ONLY STATUTORY NOTICE THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN GIVEN TO HER THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE UPHELD.

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A DISTRICT COURT IF.

IF IT WAS CHALLENGED.

IS IS THIS PARTICULAR SECTION FOR UNIMPROVED PROPERTY WHICH IS.

WHICH I KNOW IS GOING TO DISAPPOINT A LOT OF A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT.

I JUST SIMPLY DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACT ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS UNIMPROVED PROPERTY CODE.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO BE MOST FOCUSED ON NOW WHEN I TALK WITH MR. SPIRA? CORRECT. SORRY, BYRON, IS HOW WE CAN.

WHAT WE WHAT KIND OF AN AGREEMENT WE CAN COME TO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROPERTY IS BEING KEPT INTO COMPLIANCE BY THE BLACK LETTER LAW, BLACK LETTER OF THE LAW, WHICH IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE.

MAY NOT BE FOR THE ENTIRE 15FT OF THE PERIMETER OF THE 200 ACRES OF THIS PROPERTY.

BUT, SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP AND WE CAN, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD HELP LIMIT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

IT WILL. THANK YOU. AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH THE CODE.

I THINK YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE CERTAINLY TALKS ABOUT 15FT.

THE OTHER THING, TOO, IT TALKS ABOUT 15FT OF THE SIDE AND REAR LOT LINES THAT HAVE AN ADJACENT IMPROVED PROPERTY ON THE SIDE INDICATED BELOW.

THAT REALLY DOESN'T PUT ANYONE ON NOTICE AS TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT SEEMS AT LEAST IT SEEMS TO INDICATE IT'S THE REAR AND THE SIDE OF CERTAIN LOT LINES.

BUT NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, AS FAR AS THE WIDTH, AS FAR AS THE TESTIMONY AND I APOLOGIZE SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS, I DIDN'T GET THEIR NAMES BECAUSE I WAS ABLE.

BUT LET ME GO THROUGH THE FIRST FIRST ONE FIRST.

HE TESTIFIED THAT MOWING WAS MAY 31ST, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WE TESTIFIED TO.

SO CERTAINLY IT'S BEEN MOWED.

WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

THE SECOND ONE, WHICH IS THE HOA PRESIDENT, HE SAID AGAIN, THERE'S NO TESTIMONY AS TO IT HADN'T BEEN MOWED WITHIN 15FT, FEET.

THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT TWO LOTS BEHIND THE PROPERTY, HIS PROPERTY, WHETHER THAT WAS OWNED BY THE RESPONDENT OR SOMEONE ELSE.

AGAIN, THERE'S NO TESTIMONY.

THE THIRD ONE IS HE MADE REFERENCE TO WHAT WAS SAID, THE COUNCILMAN SAYS, AND WHAT THE WHAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SAYS, THAT'S HEARSAY.

HE CAN'T TESTIFY AS TO WHAT SOMEONE TOLD HIM, BUT THERE'S NO TESTIMONY THAT THERE WAS NO MOWING BEHIND 15FT.

THE LAST ONE, MR. BLAND, TESTIFIED AS TO HE CAN SEE THE EIGHTH GREEN AND THE T'S AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THERE'S NO TESTIMONY THAT THERE'S NO MOWING BEHIND THE 15FT.

CONTRARY, I BELIEVE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TESTIFIED THAT THERE HAS BEEN MOWING.

WE'VE SENT PICTURES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC AREA THAT'S IN QUESTION, CERTAINLY THAT'S CERTAINLY WE'LL LOOK AT.

BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF ANY ISSUES AS OF TODAY AS WE STAND HERE, EVEN THOUGH MY CLIENT HAS CONSISTENTLY BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, CONSISTENTLY PROVIDED PICTURES TO THEM, THEY CAN'T BE RAISED TO A SITUATION WHERE THEY'VE GOT TO COMPLY WITH SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT AWARE OF WHEN THEY FEEL THEY'VE COMPLIED RIGHT NOW.

YOU YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUE WITH THE WAY THE CODE IS WORDED.

AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE I DO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCRETION SINCE I'M THE ONE INTERPRETING THE BLACK LETTER LAW.

I BELIEVE THAT WHEN IT SAYS SIDE AND REAR LOT LINES, I BELIEVE THAT THAT MEANS BASICALLY ANY LOT LINE THAT THE GOLF COURSE HAS THAT ABUTS ANOTHER IMPROVED PROPERTY SO THAT WOULD BE ALL OF THESE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES.

I THINK THE REASON WHY IT DOESN'T SAY IT DOESN'T CLOSE THE SQUARE BY SAYING FRONT BECAUSE THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE CONSIDERED THE STREET.

I UNDERSTAND. SO SO THE WAY I'M READING THIS IS THE GOLF COURSE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MOW THE TO KEEP WITHIN THE 15FT FROM THE EDGE OF ITS LOT LINE IN FOR THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE GOLF COURSE MAY PERHAPS ACCEPTING WHATEVER LITTLE PIECE OF THE GOLF COURSE IS AT THE YOU KNOW THE ENTRANCE THAT WOULD BE MAYBE CONSIDERED THE FRONT.

IF I COULD CLARIFY SOMETHING, WOULD THAT BE ONLY ADJACENT TO IMPROVE PROPERTY? IN OTHER WORDS, APPROVED PROPERTY BECAUSE IT SAYS HERE ADJACENT TO IMPROVED PROPERTY.

SO IF THERE'S A PORTION THAT'S ADJACENT TO UNIMPROVED PROPERTY THAT THEN THIS DOESN'T APPLY.

I UNDERSTAND. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT MOWING IS NOT THE SAME THING AS BEING IN COMPLIANCE.

SO YOU COULD MOW EVERY DAY TO 13IN AND YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE.

SO WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MOWING TO 12IN? HOW OFTEN HOW OFTEN IS IS THE MOWING BEING BEING DONE? WHAT KIND OF EQUIPMENT ARE WE USING? PART PART OF THE PROBLEM IN TALKING TO MY CLIENT, SHE'S HAD DIFFICULTY GETTING CONTRACTORS OUT THERE TO MOW AND I THINK SHE SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. SO IT'S NOT ALL OF A SUDDEN SHE'S SAYING SHE CAN'T GET IT.

SHE'S NOTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT, PROVIDE THEM SCREENSHOTS AND WHATEVER INFORMATION THEY NEED.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HOW OFTEN, CERTAINLY I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MOWING WITHIN 15FT DURING THE GROWING SEASON.

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YOU CERTAINLY HAVE PART OF THE YEAR THAT CERTAINLY DOESN'T GROW DURING THE GROWING SEASON.

CERTAINLY IF IT'S MOWING THE SIDE, CERTAINLY I CAN GET BACK, GET COME UP WITH SOME UNDERSTANDING OR WHAT CODE REQUIRES.

CODE ENFORCEMENT REQUIRES TO BE MOWED.

IT'S UNFAIR TO HAVE PEOPLE GOING OUT THERE WITH WITH WITH RULERS, YOU KNOW, 12IN.

I MEAN, IT'S GOT TO BE BOTH WAYS.

IT'S GOT TO CUT BOTH WAYS. IT'S GOT TO BE REASONABLE ON BOTH SIDES.

WELL, I, I DISAGREE THAT IT'S UNFAIR.

I THINK IF ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WANT TO GO TO THE 15FT THAT ABUTS THEIR PROPERTY WITH A RULER, I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO TO MEASURE.

WELL, LET ME LET ME LET ME ASK THE QUESTION THIS WAY.

WHAT WOULD THE MAGISTRATE FEEL IS REASONABLE? WHAT WOULD THE HOMEOWNERS FEEL IS REASONABLE AS TO THE NUMBER OF TIMES THEY HAVE TO MOW THE 15 FOOT TIME FRAME? BECAUSE MAYBE WE CAN REACH AN AGREEMENT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE A TIME AND THEN SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT.

RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND.

AND I, I THINK REASONABLE IS WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TO KEEP THE GRASS UNDER 12IN.

SO GRASS, GRASS AND WEEDS AND ALL.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S BEEN ANY ISSUE WITH TRASH OR DEBRIS OR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE REALLY WE'RE REALLY JUST TALKING ABOUT MOWING NOW.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

THERE'S TRASH WITHIN AND TRESPASSING.

THERE'S TRASH. TRASH.

WELL, LET ME CLARIFY THAT SO I UNDERSTAND IT.

WHAT WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WITHIN TRASH? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 15FT OR WHAT TRASH ARE WE REFERRING TO? IF YOU COULD TALK TO THAT. SO WHEN I WAS OUT FOR MY RE-INSPECTION, THERE'S TRASH CANS THAT ARE SPILLED OVER WITH, YOU KNOW, RACCOONS THAT GO THROUGH TRASH THAT'S STILL LEFT IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE FROM TRESPASSERS USING THE TRASH CANS, THROWING THEIR TRASH IN, BUT IT LOOKS FAIRLY FRESH TRASH.

I KNOW THAT'S NOT EITHER PARTY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

HOW INTO? LIKE THE POINT OF THAT.

IT'S NOT HER TRASH SPECIFICALLY, BUT AS A MAINTENANCE.

HAVING A MAINTENANCE CONTRACTOR GO OUT THERE, CLEAN UP DEAD TREE DEBRIS, CLEAN UP ANY TRASH THAT'S BEEN DUMPED.

THERE'S BEEN LIKE A CEMENT BAG THAT'S SAT OUT THERE FOR, I GUESS, A YEAR WHEN THEY WERE DOING IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT TRASH IS BEING IF THE TRASH IS ON HER PROPERTY, IT'S HER TRASH.

CORRECT. BUT LIKE LIKE I SAID BEFORE.

BECAUSE OF THE NOTICE.

THE WAY THIS CASE HAS BEEN NOTICED, MY AUTHORITY ENDS 15FT.

15FT. YOU KNOW, AFTER AFTER 15FT IN ONE INCHES, I DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.

AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A TRASH CAN THAT WAS DUMPED OVER, CLEARLY NOT WITHIN 15FT.

AND AND REGARDLESS OF THAT, IF THERE'S A TRASH CAN THAT'S DUMPED OVER, MY CLIENT'S GOING TO PICK UP THE TRASH.

SHE DOESN'T WANT THE TRASH HANGING THERE ANYHOW.

BUT BUT AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO LIMIT THIS TO TO TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN CITED WITH TODAY.

I MEAN, THE ORDINANCE DOES SAY OWNERS MUST ALSO KEEP THEIR PROPERTY FREE OF TRASH, DEBRIS, JUNK DEAD OR FALLEN TREES, UNSIGHTLY OR UNSANITARY MATTER THAT CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE AND SERIOUS THREAT TO PUBLIC WELFARE.

SO, I MEAN, YES, SHE'S CUTTING THE GRASS, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO TRASH IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL.

OKAY. IF THERE IS TRASH AND WE CAN BE NOTIFIED OF TRASH, CERTAINLY THAT IS SOMETHING MY CLIENT WILL WILL TAKE CARE OF.

SHE WILL NOT ALLOW TRASH TO STAY THERE.

DOES SHE HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON SPEED DIAL READY TO PICK UP TRASH? SOMEBODY WORKING ON A REGULAR BASIS.

I ALSO HAVE A SENIOR PLANNER THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS AND GIVE MORE OF A DESCRIPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

TO HELP CLARIFY, HIS NAME IS STEPHEN PLANS SENIOR SENIOR PLANNER.

STEVEN BRICK WHITE.

WHITE.

GOOD AFTERNOON. STEPHEN WHITE, SENIOR PLANNER WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT, TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ON BREAKING DOWN OF THE LOT LINE, WHICH REQUIRES FRONT YARD OR SIDE YARD SETBACKS. SECTION 185 .006 OF THE ZONING CODE BREAKS DOWN THE DEFINITIONS OF A FRONT YARD, SAYS THE AREA EXTENDING ACROSS THE ENTIRE WIDTH OF THE LOT.

BETWEEN THE FRONT LINES AND THE FRONT SETBACK LINES, DISTANCE SHALL BE MEASURED PERPENDICULAR TO THE FRONT.

EXCUSE ME, FRONT LOT LINE SIDE YARD EXTENDING ALONG THE SIDE LOT FROM THE REQUIRED FRONT YARD TO THE REQUIRED REAR YARD AND LYING BETWEEN THE SIDE LOT LINE AND SIDE SETBACK LINE.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS ACROSS THE FRONT BARRIER OF THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE IS THE FRONT AND THE SIDE RUNS PARALLEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.

THANKS. OKAY, SIR, IF YOU PLEASE, PLEASE COME BACK UP.

SURELY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

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SO THIS LAST THIS LAST MO WAS MAY 30TH.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE MAKING AN EFFORT TO COMPLY, AT LEAST WITH THAT PART.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOUND LIKE SOUND TO ME LIKE THOSE EFFORTS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING, AGAIN, FROM FROM PICTURES I'VE SEEN AND WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD.

WELL, LET ME TURN THE OTHER WAY. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY AREAS THAT WE'VE BEEN NOTIFIED SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS THIS IS NOT SUFFICIENT.

YOU NEED TO CLARIFY. YOU NEED TO RECTIFY THIS.

AND CERTAINLY THAT'S THE CASE.

WE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY NOTIFICATION FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY WERE NOTIFIED TWO WEEKS AGO.

I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE FINISHED.

WE'VE MOWED EVERYTHING AND WE'VE RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATION THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE TO TO CLARIFY.

NOW, I THINK THAT DURING DURING THIS TIME OF THE YEAR IN FLORIDA, IF YOU'RE NOT MOWING YOUR LAWN EVERY WEEK LIKE I KNOW IF I DON'T IF I DON'T KNOW IF I WENT TWO WEEKS WITHOUT MOWING MY LAWN, I WOULD GET 12IN OF WEEDS IN SOME SPOTS.

SO I WOULD EXPECT MY NEIGHBORS TO MOW AT LEAST EVERY OTHER WEEK.

WOULD EXPECT THEM TO MOW THEIR THEIR PROPERTY.

FRANK YES.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, AS FAR AS THE CITY BEING.

VALERIE SORRY, CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, THE CITY WAS NOTIFIED ON FRIDAY TO DO A FOLLOW UP INSPECTION.

HEATHER HAD BEEN IN CONTACT WITH LISA AND I ON A WEEKLY BASIS, SOMETIMES 2 OR 3 TIMES A WEEK WHILE THE PROCESS WAS GOING.

SHE NOTIFIED US FRIDAY OF LAST WEEK THAT IT WAS COMPLETED THAT WE COULD DO OUR FOLLOW UP INSPECTION.

UPON DOING THE FOLLOW UP INSPECTION YESTERDAY, THAT'S WHEN THE ADDITIONAL PHOTOS WERE TAKEN AND LISA TRIED TO EMAIL ALL THOSE PHOTOS.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY, IT GOT KICKED BACK UNDELIVERABLE.

SO SHE HAD TO BREAK THEM OUT IN SMALLER GROUPS TO SEND.

BUT THOSE PHOTOS WERE GOING TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT WE THOUGHT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.

NOW, AS OF THIS MORNING, HEATHER DID ADVISE THAT SOME OF THAT AREA IS CONSERVATION, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

SHE GAVE US A SURVEY, I BELIEVE IT WAS SHE EMAILED IT SAYS A SITE ANALYSIS.

SO WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT THAT'S BEEN RECORDED AT THE CLERK OF COURTS THAT SAYS IT IS A CONSERVATION AREA BECAUSE IF IN FACT IT IS, THEN IT CAN'T BE TOUCHED.

SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT PART OUT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT WE WERE NOTIFIED OFFICIALLY FRIDAY TO DO THE FOLLOW UP INSPECTION.

OKAY. AND LISA, WHEN YOU DID THE FOLLOW UP INSPECTION, DO YOU LIKE VALERIE WAS SAYING THAT THOSE PICTURES ARE THE AREAS THAT YOU FELT WERE STILL NOT IN COMPLIANCE? YES, I DID.

I DID MY FOLLOW UP INSPECTION ACTUALLY YESTERDAY BECAUSE I ALWAYS CHECK MY CASES BEFORE WE COME TO THE HEARING.

AND I WAS OFF FRIDAY, SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO DO IT.

DO YOU FOLLOW UP INSPECTION ON FRIDAY? NOW, IN YOUR OPINION, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THOSE THE SPOTS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED BACK INTO COMPLIANCE AT LEAST ANOTHER WEEK? ANOTHER WEEK? COULD I INQUIRE FOR THE.

I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. FINISH.

LET ME INTERRUPT YOU. AS LONG AS THEY ARE NOT IN THE CONSERVATION AREA BECAUSE THEN THEY CAN'T BE TOUCHED.

RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, EVEN IF IT'S IN A CONSERVATION AREA, YOU CAN PICK UP THE TRASH, RIGHT? RIGHT. WHICH IS A DEAD DEBRIS.

AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE PERIMETER IS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED A CONSERVATION AREA.

RIGHT. I WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE YET.

I DO HAVE THE PAPER THAT SHE EMAILED ME IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.

I KNOW IT'S NOT EVIDENCE, BUT OUR.

I'M SORRY. ARE THE PICTURES THAT YOU TOOK, ARE THOSE WITHIN THE 15FT OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SOME OTHER AREAS OTHER THAN WITHIN THE 15FT THAT IS GOING TO BE WITH OTHER AREAS ADDRESSED ALONG THE GOLF COURSE.

SO IT'S NOT SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE 15FT? WELL, FOR THE MOWING, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MOWING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, TRASH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I UNDERSTAND. BUT AS FAR AS SO ARE THERE PICTURES THAT SHOW MOWING IN AREAS OTHER THAN THE 15FT? OH, YEAH. THEY THEY CONFIRMED THAT THEY'RE 15FT HAVING.

THEY'VE BEEN CUT. THAT'S BEEN CUT.

OKAY. SO IT'S JUST A IT'S TRASH.

THE ORDINANCE OF THE 15FT FROM THE COMPLAINANTS HAVE BEEN CUT.

BUT AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE TRASH AND DEBRIS IS NOT BUT THE CITY.

SO BUT IF I UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S TESTIMONY.

ANOTHER WEEK SHOULD DO THE TRICK TO GET THE PARTS THAT YOU SAY THAT YOU THINK ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WEEK OR TWO.

I MEAN, I DON'T OWN A BIG EQUIPMENT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TRASH.

SO I KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC TRASH ARE WE REFERRING TO? WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? JUST PEOPLE THAT TRESPASS THROUGH THERE.

SO THERE'S TRASH THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED AND PICKED UP AND CLEANED AND PALM FRONDS, DEAD DEBRIS ALL ALONG.

LET ME TALK ABOUT PALM FARMS AND SOME OF THE CONCERN, ESPECIALLY AS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THINGS FALLING EVERY DAY AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSE TO 200 ACRES.

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THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME OR HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME TO SOME AGREEMENT AS TO HOW THEY MAINTAIN THAT, BECAUSE IN THE EVENT IT FALLS TODAY AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE CITED TOMORROW BECAUSE THERE'S PALM FRONDS ON THERE THAT FELL THE DAY BEFORE.

TRYING TO FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND ON THAT SO THAT SO THAT IT GIVES THE THE OWNER THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLY.

THERE ARE SOME EXCUSE ME, THERE ARE SOME AREAS WITHIN THE GOLF COURSE.

WHEN WE DROVE BY THERE SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THAT THE GOLF CART PATH, THAT IT APPEARS THAT SOMEBODY HAD TAKEN A LARGE AMOUNT OF YARD DEBRIS AND JUST DUMPED IT INSTEAD OF LAYING IT OUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT SORT OF TRESPASSING IS THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING YOU GOT TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU PURCHASE A PROPERTY LIKE THIS, THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT'S GOING TO BE THE COST OF IT'S GOING TO BE THE COST OF OWNING THAT INVESTMENT.

AND IT'S I MEAN, TWO FOR 200 ACRES, THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG COST.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE GAME WHEN YOU INVEST.

NOW, I, I AM INCLINED TO GRANT AN A TO GRANT A WEEK EXTENSION TO BRING THE THE OTHER THE THE ADDITIONAL AREAS THAT THE THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED INTO COMPLIANCE.

NOW, AS FAR AS AN AGREEMENT WITH AS FAR AS AN AGREEMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, MOWING AND CLEANING THE PROPERTY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DECREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU WILL MOW THE PROPERTY TWICE A WEEK OR EVERY TWO WEEKS, OR THAT IF YOU DID MOW THE PROPERTY EVERY TWO WEEKS, REGARDLESS OF HOW HIGH THE WEEDS GOT, YOU'RE NOT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

SOUNDS TO ME LIKE FROM THE TESTIMONY OF THE CITY, THAT THERE ARE STILL THAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING AN EFFORT, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME AREAS THAT NEED THAT NEED WORK.

SO WHAT I'M REALLY ONLY CONCERNED WITH RIGHT NOW IS HOW MUCH TIME.

WE NEED TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS I THINK I THINK CODE ENFORCEMENT INDICATED THEY TRIED TO SEND IT WAS TOO BULKY, TOO BIG OF A BULK.

WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL WE SEE THE PICTURES TO SEE HOW MUCH TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY IF THE PICTURE'S BEEN SENT YET OR DO WE HAVE THE PICTURES? THEY HAVE NOT SENT YET. SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM, TO SIT HERE AND SAY TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS A WEEK WITHOUT SEEING THE SCOPE OF WHAT WHAT THEY FEEL NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. IT'S HARD TO GIVE GIVE A TIME FRAME ON IT.

CERTAINLY IN CODE ENFORCEMENT IS GOOD TO BEEN GOOD TO DEAL WITH.

MY CLIENT HAS INDICATED THAT TO ME WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN.

WE SAID TWO WEEKS. BUT IF FOR SOME REASON THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE LONGER, WE CAN DEAL WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT TO IF THE COURT IF CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS ADDITIONAL AUTHORITY FOR ADDITIONAL TIME TO DEAL WITH WHATEVER PROBLEMS COME UP THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF.

UM. NOW, YOU KNOW, LISA'S THE EXPERT HERE, SO I, I GIVE HER TESTIMONY THAT A WEEK OR TWO.

IS WHAT IT WOULD TAKE PRETTY IF SHE FEELS GIVE IT A LOT OF WEIGHT.

SURE, I'M SAYING SO.

SO TWO WEEKS.

SO. SINCE YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY SEEN THE THE PARTS OF THE PROPERTY THAT ARE STILL NOT IN COMPLIANCE, WE CAN GO WITH TWO WEEKS. NOW.

I GOT A FEELING YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND FROM THIS POINT ON.

OTHERWISE, YOU AND I ARE GOING TO BECOME REALLY GOOD FRIENDS.

WELL, I TEND TO AGREE.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION ON THE PART OF PROPERTY OWNERS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT MY CLIENT HAS A GOLF COURSE THAT FINANCIALLY WAS WAS BECOMING TO THE POINT WHERE SHE COULDN'T MAINTAIN IT.

AND YOU REALLY YOU CONTINUE THROWING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO THAT OR YOU CLOSE IT TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING ELSE.

THEY'VE GONE AHEAD AND TRIED TO DO SOME REZONING FOR TO DEVELOP IT.

THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT IT.

THE RESIDENTS DON'T WANT TO BUY IT.

THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO BUY IT.

SO YOU'RE SORT OF YOU SORT OF HAVE, YOU KNOW, TIGER BY THE TAIL.

YOU HAVE AN ALBATROSS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.

CERTAINLY THEY'LL CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS, WE ASSUME, UNFORTUNATELY, AND I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT WE THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME OTHER SOME OTHER COMPLAINTS. BECAUSE BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST, I GUESS.

BUT CERTAINLY, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.

BUT THERE IS SOME BACKGROUND THERE.

AND AND IT'S NOT AN EASY SITUATION FOR ANY SIDE.

WHAT ABOUT WHAT ABOUT MOSQUITO CONTROL? DOWN THROUGH THE COUNTY.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO DOES THE COUNTY COME ON THE PROPERTY? REGULAR INTERVALS, TOO.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WORKS. BREATHE MY AIR.

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UNLESS YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT.

NO, JUST. I JUST.

I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THOROUGHLY DISCUSSING ALL OF THE POTENTIAL.

I MEAN, IF IF THE RESIDENTS WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THEY WANT TO GET IN TOUCH WITH MOSQUITO CONTROL, WE SHOULD ONLY GIVE THEM AUTHORITY TO COME ON THERE AND SPRAY. THAT'S A RESPONSIBILITY ANYHOW.

SO CERTAINLY WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

SO. OKAY.

I WILL GIVE I'LL GIVE YOU A THE THE SAME 15 DAY EXTENSION THAT I GAVE TO THE TO THE LAST PROPERTY OWNERS.

OKAY. SO JUNE 29TH TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH LISA AND GO OVER EVERY PICTURE.

AND AND THEN SHE'LL ONCE SHE'S SATISFIED THAT EVERY EVERY PICTURE IS BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE, THEN THEN WE SHOULD BE FINE. IT'LL BE A $50 A DAY FINE EVERY DAY THAT THE VIOLATION CONTINUES.

AND THEN.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THE PLAN IS GOING FORWARD AS FAR AS MOWING THE PROPERTY, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER.

THAT'S NOT I'M JUST I'M SAYING THAT MORE FOR THE FOR THE BENEFIT OF JUST THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE I CAN'T ORDER YOU TO DO.

NO, I CAN'T ORDER YOU TO DO IT ON A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME.

I UNDERSTAND. WHEN WOULD.

I WOULD SUGGEST.

THERE IS SOME WAY THAT YOU COULD MAYBE TRY TO ORGANIZE A COMMUNITY GROUP.

TO DISCUSS A WAY TO A WAY TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT, BECAUSE I JUST GOT I GOT A I GOT A FEELING THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY TIME THAT THERE IS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 200 ACRES HERE.

SO EVERY TIME YOU SOMETHING'S WRONG AND ONE OF THE 301.

PROPERTY OWNERS GETS UPSET, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A FINE.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NOTICE OF VIOLATION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK HERE.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF MY $0.02.

IS THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH TO.

I THINK AND I AGREE WITH YOU, I THINK THERE'S BEEN ATTEMPTED CERTAINLY WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

HOPE, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WOULD LIKE TO BE FAIRNESS ON BOTH SIDES, OR AT LEAST BOTH SIDES, AS OPPOSED TO ONE FOR PURPOSES OF ANGER OR FRUSTRATION.

THAT GOLF COURSE IS SHUT DOWN.

BUT BUT CERTAINLY MY CLIENT HAS BEEN DOING THAT, BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT.

AND SHE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TRYING TO DO THAT.

WITH REGARDS TO THE TIME FRAME ON THAT, WHEN WHEN CAN WE HAVE THE PICTURES? I GUESS THERE'S A TIME FRAME ON THAT ONE.

YEAH, YOU CAN TRY IT. IT'LL BE MULTIPLE EMAILS.

SURE. SURE. OKAY, SO TODAY.

TIME. TODAY. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

WE CAN. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO.

UM, I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO BE ACCURATE.

OKAY. WELL, I ALREADY I ALREADY MADE MY MY RULING.

BUT IF YOU IF YOU DO HAVE IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON SOME OF THE STATEMENTS, THEN YOU'RE WELCOME TO. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE GOLF COURSE WAS PURCHASED IN LATE 2019 OR 2020 FOR $2.1 MILLION.

THERE ARE FOUR FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN BUYING THE GOLF COURSE.

OKAY. BUT THE LAST OFFER THAT I HEARD WAS MORE THAN $10 MILLION.

OKAY. FOR A FOR A GOLF COURSE THAT WAS WAS DESTROYED.

OKAY. SO LET'S BE HONEST.

OKAY. WHEN THEY SAY NOBODY WANTS TO BUY IT.

NO. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BUY IT.

OKAY. BUT NOT AT FIVE TIMES WHAT IT'S WORTH.

OKAY. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IS, IS WHY THIS IS BEING CONSIDERED UNIMPROVED PROPERTY.

THERE ARE FIVE BUILDINGS ON THIS PROPERTY.

HOW IS THAT DEFINED AS UNIMPROVED PROPERTY? AND MAYBE ATTORNEY EDWARDS CAN HELP US WITH THIS.

I. I CAN'T.

I CAN'T TELL YOU. I'M NOT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S YOUR FAULT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WAS WRITTEN UP.

I JUST. I KNOW THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND WE.

WE DECIDED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS IMPROVED.

PROPERTY. IT HAS FIVE BUILDINGS ON IT.

HOW CAN IT BE UNIMPROVED IF IT HAS FIVE BUILDINGS ON IT? SO I JUST. I CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT FOR YOU, OKAY? I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO.

NO, NO, NO, NO. I'M GOOD.

OKAY. UM, INITIALLY, WHEN THIS CASE BEGAN, IT BEGAN IN EITHER OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAID THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS DESIGNATED AS G.

U OR RR. WAS CONSIDERED UNIMPROVED PROPERTY AND THE GOLF COURSE WAS DESIGNATED AS YOU.

SO WE WENT IN AND AMENDED THE ORDINANCE TO REMOVE THAT, BECAUSE IT DOES SAY IN THE BEGINNING THAT ANYTHING PROPERTY WITH IMPROVEMENT STRUCTURES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE WOULD BE CONSIDERED IMPROVED PROPERTY.

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BUT THAT ONE CLAUSE KIND OF CONTRADICTED EVERYTHING BECAUSE IT THEN SAID IF IT'S GOOD, THEN IT'S CONSIDERED UNIMPROVED EVEN THOUGH IT HAS STRUCTURES.

SO WHEN WE INITIALLY CITED THIS CASE, IT WAS UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE BEFORE IT WAS RENEWED.

SO RIGHT NOW IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IMPROVED PROPERTY.

OKAY. OKAY. SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WRITE ANOTHER COMPLAINT AGAINST THE IMPROVED PROPERTY AND WE CAN HAVE EVERYTHING BE MOWED.

WELL, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH.

NO, I, I DON'T HAVE THE I DON'T HAVE THE IMPROVED PROPERTY ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF ME, SO I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY LEGAL ADVICE ON THAT, EXCEPT THAT I WOULD SAY.

THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE JUDICIAL USE OF CITY RESOURCES.

I WOULD I WOULD IMPLORE EVERYONE NOT TO MAKE NOT NOT TO MAKE COMPLAINTS JUST FOR THE SAKE OF COMPLAINING.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN COMPLAIN.

I WOULD INVITE YOU.

I WOULD INVITE YOU TO COME OUT OR YOU CAN RIDE WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS.

OKAY. THERE ARE VIOLATIONS ON EVERY SINGLE HOLE.

I AM SURE. I'M SURE THERE ARE.

BUT. I WOULD.

I WOULD. WE JUST SUGGEST THAT WE WE DON'T MAKE VIOLATIONS SIMPLY TO BE VINDICTIVE.

BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT'S WRONG, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE LIVED WITH THIS FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW.

SO WE AND AS I SAID.

I CAN FILL THIS ROOM NEXT TIME IF YOU'D LIKE.

AND WE COULD LISTEN TO A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMPLAIN.

BUT WE DECIDED THAT WE TRY AND HANDLE THIS IN A CIVIL MANNER.

SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN.

AND YOU SAY YOU COULD FILL THE ROOM WHEN I TALK WHEN I MENTIONED EARLIER TO THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ATTORNEY, I SUGGESTED.

ORGANIZING SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY GROUP WHERE THEY COULD WHERE THE COMMUNITY COULD SPEAK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THESE THINGS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MOST EFFICIENT METHOD.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WE ARE WILLING TO DO IT.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION BECAUSE I.

CLEAR. I DEFINITELY SYMPATHIZE WITH THE FACT THAT HAVING.

HAVING THAT, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY LIKE THAT WITH THE RODENTS AND THE SNAKES AND MOSQUITOES AND.

AND THE RATS AND THE RATS.

I SYMPATHIZE THAT THAT'S.

THAT. THAT'S. YOU GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THAT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S A IT'S A HERCULEAN TASK FOR US TO WORK THIS OUT IF WE'RE DOING IT PIECEMEAL.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY.

I DON'T WANT TO COME IN FRONT OF YOU NEXT MONTH.

YEAH. AND.

SIR. NOW YOU UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPROVED PROPERTY NEXT TIME.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE UNDER A WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF ISSUES.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BLACK AND WHITE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I UNDERSTAND.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. OKAY. SO LET ME SAY ONE OTHER THING.

AND YOU MENTIONED ABOUT MEETING WITH THE HOMEOWNER.

IF WE CAN GET AN INDIVIDUAL TO CONTACT OR SOMEONE CONTACT ME, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SIT DOWN AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT'S REASONABLE.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY IF BOTH SIDES ARE REASONABLE, SOMETHING CAN BE WORKED OUT.

IF ONE'S NOT, THEN IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT.

IF I IF I CAN BE CONTACTED BY SOMEBODY WHO SAYS, LOOK, HERE'S A GROUP AND I DON'T MEAN THE 20 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE, I WILL CERTAINLY TALK TO MY CLIENT ABOUT MEETING AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT WITH REGARDS TO THE CUTTING AND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THIS CONTINUAL BACK AND FORTH.

YEAH. AND I THINK THAT THAT WOULD JUST BE FOR I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE FOR YOUR CLIENT BECAUSE.

WE'VE SPENT.

BEEN HERE FOR OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF NOW.

YOU KNOW, A 2 OR 3 HOUR MEETING WITH THE WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY COULD SAVE COULD SAVE YOUR CLIENT FROM HAVING YOU HERE FOR FIVE, SIX, SEVEN HOURS OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

I UNDERSTAND. SO. THEY KNOW WHERE TO CONTACT ME.

I'LL SPEAK WITH MY CLIENT, TRY TO MEET SOMETHING WITH A SMALL GROUP WITHIN THE ASSOCIATION AND HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S REASONABLE ON BOTH SIDES.

CERTAINLY SHE WANTS TO MAKE.

SIR. AS FOR MY PART, ALL I CAN DO IS TAKE THE.

I UNDERSTAND EACH VIOLATION. I UNDERSTAND.

COME TO ME. WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE MR. SPEARS TIME OR MISS JOYNER'S TIME.

WE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH THEM AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.

WELL, I HOPE YOU CAN.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. RODNEY. IS THERE ANYBODY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? ANYONE. NOW I'VE JUST LIKE TO.

EXPLAIN THAT. I'VE ALREADY MADE MY RULING, SO I UNDERSTAND.

AND I JUST WANT TO CORRECT SOME INACCURACIES THAT COUNCIL BROUGHT UP.

HE SAID NOBODY WANTS TO BUY IT.

AND FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE AN OFFER.

I MEAN, I HAD ASKED HIM COMING INTO A MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE US AN OFFER ON OR AT LEAST ASK US WHAT YOU WANT FOR THE GOLF COURSE AND WHATNOT.

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AND HE SAYS, WELL, YOU HAVE TO MAKE AN OFFER.

SO I THINK WHAT I WANT YOU TO KNOW AND I THINK YOU'RE CUTTING A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH SLACK HERE, IT'S BEEN A YEAR.

IT'S BEEN A YEAR THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH THIS, AND NONE OF MY RESIDENTS IN ANY OF THE HOMES THAT I KNOW OF WHEN I WOULD GET WOULD GET A YEAR TO FIX THEIR PROPERTY. SO IT'S BEEN A YEAR.

THE THE OTHER PART OF IT IS, IN MY OPINION.

IN MY OPINION, THEY CLOSED DOWN THE GOLF COURSE AND PORT MALABAR.

THEY RAN IT INTO THE GROUND.

OKAY. THINKING THAT THE PEOPLE WILL GO AWAY AND THEN WE COULD JUST SET IT TO A CONTRACTOR AND BUILD ON IT.

WELL, THE OFFER WAS SHE HAD A COUPLE TWO HOMES COME IN AND WANTED TO PUT IN 367 HOMES.

THIS GOLF COURSE WAS THE PALM WAS THE CROWN JEWEL OF PALM BAY.

NOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ANGRY.

YOU KNOW, HE'S TALKING ABOUT EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE ANGRY HERE.

WE'RE NOT ANGRY. WE WANT YOU TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN.

BUT IF YOU KNOW, IF MONEY IS NO OPTION, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN YOU CAN CUT IT TWO TIMES A WEEK.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WHAT DO WE DO IF A LITTLE KID GETS BIT BY A CORAL SNAKE? BECAUSE THEY SAID WE MOWED IT.

LOOK, THERE'S AREAS THERE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED.

I CHALLENGE YOU TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A BUNCH OF ANGRY HOMEOWNERS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOMEOWNERS WHO WANT RESPONSIBILITY.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE AT ALL.

BUT I JUST WANT TO CONSIDER IT.

WHEN YOU WALK APART, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU WALK ON THERE, SOME OF THE AREAS ARE A HELL HOLE.

AND NOW YOU GOT ALL THESE LILY PADS AND WHATNOT ON IN STORM DRAINS AND WE'RE GETTING THAT'S NOT REAL GOOD FOR THE CITY EITHER.

SO TAKE THE CITIES.

TO ME, IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE AND IT'S A HAZARD ISSUE AND IT'S A JUNK ISSUE.

OKAY. SO LET'S NOT PRESUME.

AND I REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING FOR.

WHAT'S THE PRICE ON IT RIGHT NOW? WELL, PEOPLE DO WANT TO BUY IT, SIR.

THAT'S THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE OF THIS HEARING.

YES, MA'AM. WHAT'S UP? OKAY, SIR, THAT'S ENOUGH.

I'VE BEEN SWIMMING. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? THANK YOU. HI.

I'M KATHLEEN CONROY.

I LIVE AT 1872 WILLOWBROOK DRIVE AND I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE JUST COMPLETELY ANNOYED AT THIS WHOLE THING.

IT'S BEEN A YEAR.

SHE'S MOWED TWICE BEHIND MY HOUSE.

THEY CAME WITH THIS BIG TRACTOR AND ALL IT DID WAS FLATTEN DOWN THE GRASS, WHICH IS NOW BACK UP TO HERE.

SO WHATEVER SHE THINKS SHE DID IS NOT EFFECTIVE.

WE'VE WALKED THE CARS.

THERE'S TRASH EVERYWHERE.

IT'S UNSAFE.

IT'S JUST IT'S A HEALTH ISSUE.

LIKE PEOPLE HAVE SAID, IT'S JUST TOTALLY UNSAFE.

AND I DIDN'T HEAR HER ATTORNEY SPEAK TO THE FACT YOU ASKED HIM SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT HOW MANY TIMES THEY WERE GOING TO MOW.

DID YOU HEAR HIM SAY.

WHO SAID, I CAN'T FORCE YOU.

BUT YOU KEPT ASKING HIM, AND I DON'T REMEMBER HIM MAKING ANY KIND OF A PROMISE THAT HE WAS GOING TO EFFECTIVELY MOW AND KEEP THAT PROBLEM DOWN.

YOU ARE CORRECT. HE DID NOT GIVE ME A TIME, BUT I DID TELL HIM THAT I THOUGHT EVERY OTHER WEEK IS REASONABLE.

I KNOW, BUT HE NEVER RESPONDED TO THAT.

IT'S LIKE THE SAME THING.

YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION AND THEN SOMEBODY CAN CHANGE AND DIVERT AND NOT ANSWER.

THEN YOU GOT NO.

THAT MEAN THEY'RE NOT GIVING ANYTHING TO THE NEIGHBORS HERE? THEY'RE NOT. THEY'RE UPSET THAT THEY HAD TO DO THIS, OBVIOUSLY, BECAUSE SHE TOOK ALMOST, WHAT, SIX MONTHS TO MOW IT THE SECOND TIME. SO SHE'S ANNOYED THAT SHE HAS TO KEEP UP THE PROPERTY.

WELL. SHE'S A PROPERTY OWNER.

I KEEP UP MY PROPERTY.

MY NEIGHBORS KEEP UP THEIR PROPERTY.

SHE NEEDS TO KEEP HER PROPERTY UP.

AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS, AND I'M NOT SURE IT'S YOUR ISSUE OR WHATEVER, BUT WHY ARE ALL OF OUR COMPLAINTS? BECAUSE I PUT A COMPLAINT IN PROBABLY ONCE EVERY OTHER WEEK.

I HAVE FOR A YEAR BECAUSE NOTHING CHANGES OUT THERE.

IT'S ALWAYS NOT GETTING BETTER.

WHY ARE ALL OF OUR COMPLAINTS BEING PUT TOGETHER AS ONE? IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS FROM MULTIPLE HOMEOWNERS, THEY SHOULD EACH HAVE THEIR OWN COMPLAINT FILE.

I NEVER HEAR BACK. I NEVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENS.

I JUST GET AN EMAIL BACK BECAUSE I DO IT ONLINE.

I GET AN EMAIL BACK THAT TELLS ME, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLAINT.

NOBODY EVER CALLS ME.

I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING GOING ON.

SO THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING AND I KNOW YOU'RE HERE.

SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO ASK YOU, WHY ARE THEY ALL PUT TOGETHER? AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S ONE PROPERTY.

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I GET THAT.

BUT I'M NOT ONE PROPERTY.

MY PROPERTY GOES FROM HERE TO THERE.

OKAY. WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

VALERIE PARSONS, CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER.

WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.

BUT IT IS THE POLICY THAT WHEN WE GET A COMPLAINT ON THE SAME PARCEL, IT IS ENTERED AS ONE COMPLAINT, OKAY? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY YOU CAN TURN IN 20 COMPLAINTS ON ONE PARCEL.

IT'S NOT GOING TO START 20 DIFFERENT CASES.

IT'S GOING TO START ONE CASE.

OKAY. I SEE THAT.

I DO. BUT COULD WE GET SOME KIND OF RESPONSE BACK? LEAST YOU SHOULD GET A RESPONSE.

I GET AN EMAIL THAT SAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CODE IN PLACE.

IT HAS BEEN PUT IN.

THAT'S NOT A RESPONSE.

THAT'S JUST TELLING ME.

AND I KNOW THAT IT WENT THROUGH BECAUSE WHEN I PUT IT IN ONLINE, IT TELLS ME THAT IT WENT THROUGH.

SO GETTING AN EMAIL BACK THAT SAYS IT WENT THROUGH IS NOT A RESPONSE, IN MY OPINION.

THAT'S AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE.

WE YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE OUT, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, WE'VE SEEN THIS.

IT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED.

IT'S GOING TO BE I MEAN, THAT'S A RESPONSE, RIGHT? WE DON'T DO THAT.

THAT IS NOT POLICY.

POLICY IS IS WHEN YOU TURN IN THE COMPLAINT, YOU GET AN AUTOMATIC RESPONSE BACK.

I DO BELIEVE IN THIS NEW PROGRAM WE HAVE FOR MS THAT YOU CAN GO IN THERE IF YOU HAVE THE CASE NUMBER AND YOU CAN SEE THE STATUS OF THE CASE AND WHERE IT STANDS.

I DO. AND ALL I GET IS THAT IT'S ONGOING.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT IS AN ONGOING.

YOU HAVE. I KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

WELL, THEN YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO CALL THE OFFICE AND SPEAK TO LISA AND ASK FOR AN UPDATE IN CODE COMPLIANCE IS DEFENSE.

THERE IS A LOT. OH, I KNOW.

I'M SURE THERE ARE, BECAUSE I DRIVE AROUND PALM BAY.

IF YOU'RE NOT CALLING THEM, IF YOU'RE NOT CALLING THEM TO SPEAK WITH A SPECIFIC PERSON, I DON'T THINK WE CAN EXPECT THEM TO TO GIVE VERBAL UPDATES TO.

NO, NO, I DON'T MEAN A VERBAL.

I JUST MEAN THAT MAYBE YOU KIND OF PUT IN THERE THAT THEY WALK THE PROPERTY, THEY'VE SEEN THE PROPERTY OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, I, I'VE PUT CODE ENFORCEMENT IN THERE AND.

NOTHING FOR, LIKE, EVER.

IT JUST. NOTHING IS EVER RESPONDED TO ME.

SO THAT THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION I HAD.

IF YOU EMAIL LISA DIRECTLY FOR AN UPDATE STATUS, SHE'LL BE MORE THAN WILLING TO SEND YOU A RESPONSE.

OKAY. I WILL ALSO JUST I JUST WANT IT NOTED THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS ABOUT HOW YOU WALK THE GOLF COURSE AND TAKE PICTURES.

WE ARE NOT ABLE TO SAY I TOOK PICTURES.

OKAY. WELL, I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE HAVE BEEN PICTURES SENT.

WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCEPT THOSE PICTURES BECAUSE YOU ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT WALKING IN MY BACKYARD.

OKAY. THAT'S I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WALKING OUT.

I WOULDN'T WALK OUT THERE. IT'S DANGEROUS.

THE GRASS IS THIS HIGH.

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE. I WOULDN'T WALK OUT THERE.

I DON'T. BUT I WALK OUT IN MY BACKYARD AND I SEE IT.

IT'S RIGHT THERE. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING IS IT'S NOT GOOD.

SO AGAIN, BACK TO THE PROBLEM OF WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO MOW AGAIN? HOW OFTEN ARE YOU GOING TO MOW? CAN WE EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN, MA'AM? MA'AM, I WOULD SAY IF FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO PLEASE ADDRESS ME WHEN YOU'RE UP AT THE PODIUM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO CONTACT HER ATTORNEY.

OFFLINE. NOT NOT IN THIS NOT IN THIS VENUE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE HEARING, IF YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS, HE HAS HE AGREED WITH ME THAT TRYING TO ORGANIZE SOME SORT OF COMMUNITY GROUP TO VENT THESE.

WE HAVE A COMMUNITY GROUP.

THEY'VE TALKED TO THEM. I KNOW.

I KNOW. IT'S NOT YOUR PROBLEM.

I GET IT. I CAN.

AS FAR AS THE WORK, AS FAR AS THE WORK HE'S DONE, I CAN ONLY I'VE JUST.

I JUST MET HIM. SO I CAN ONLY.

I CAN ONLY ATTEST TO WHAT HE JUST TOLD ME UP HERE.

WELL, I WOULD BELIEVE IF YOU I.

THAT'S FINE. AND I BELIEVE HE SAID THAT GOING FORWARD HE'S HE'S GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO COME TO SOME SORT OF SOME SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION AS TO MOWING, ESPECIALLY WITH THE MOWING BUT, YOU KNOW, TRASH AND ALL OF THAT.

AND AND I'M GOING TO TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD THAT HE'S GOING TO HE'S GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO, YOU KNOW, TO PUT SOME SORT OF REGULAR MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE IN PLACE.

IT'S ACTUALLY IS NOT HIS PROBLEM.

WELL, IT ACTUALLY IS HIS CLIENT'S PROBLEM.

YEAH. BUT YEAH, WE CAN WE CAN I? NO, SIR, WE DON'T.

LET ME JUST CLARIFY, JUST SO THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SUGGEST A SMALL GROUP, WHOEVER REPRESENTS THE HOMEOWNER, CONTACT ME, COME TOGETHER WITH MY CLIENT.

SIT DOWN. WE CAN RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THAT'S THE WAY I SAID IT. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT IT.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, IS THE ASSOCIATION.

I'VE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF MEETINGS.

THERE WAS A MEETING BEFORE WHERE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ASSOCIATION WITH MY CLIENT.

RIGHT. AND I WAS ASKED TO COME THERE TO WORK IT OUT.

AND I WAS TOLD BY ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE ASSOCIATION I WASN'T NECESSARY, IT WASN'T NECESSARY FOR ME TO BE THERE AND I HAD TO LEAVE.

WELL, WHY? AND THAT IS THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE DON'T HAVE LAWYERS.

WHY? WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE MEETING IF WE'RE MEETING AS NEIGHBORS? WHY? I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, THAT'S NOT YOUR.

I KNOW AT THIS POINT.

I THINK WE'VE GONE ON THAT'S NOT GONE ON MORE THAN LONG ENOUGH.

AND THE CITY IS NOT HIRED.

I AGREE. SO JUST KNOW THAT YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE US AGAIN.

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I UNDERSTAND, MA'AM, AND I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PROCEEDINGS NOW AT 241.

OH, SORRY. YEAH, SORRY.

WE'RE NOT DONE YET.

OKAY. WE DO HAVE A FEW PROPERTIES THAT CAME INTO VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE.

THOSE ARE KB 2374423 AT 3052 DIXIE HIGHWAY NORTHEAST 2374923 AT 5904.

IF EVERYBODY COULD. IF YOU'RE LEAVING, PLEASE BE QUIET.

WE STILL HAVE ADDITIONAL WORK GOING ON.

SEE EB2 375723 AT 1386.

GUNTER AVENUE NORTHWEST.

KB 2376723 AT 290 WINDFALL AVENUE SOUTHWEST.

2379623 AT 2702 HABERLIN AVENUE SOUTHEAST.

FOLLOWING CASES ON THE PER DAY FINE AGENDA ITEMS. ONE THROUGH 11, IF NOT PREVIOUSLY HEARD, WOULD BE HEARD ON CONSENT WITHOUT FURTHER TESTIMONY, AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WAS REQUESTED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED UPON THE FILES PRESENTED. THE CITY REPRESENTS THE ALL RESPONDENTS HAVE BEEN SERVED OR NOTICED ACCORDING TO CHAPTER ONE 60 TWO OF THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES AND THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES. THE RESPONDENTS ARE NOT PRESENT TO BE HEARD IN THE CASES HAVE NOT COME INTO COMPLIANCE.

THE CITY IS SUBMITTING ALL EXHIBITS AND AFFIDAVITS INTO EVIDENCE IN THESE CASES AND REQUESTS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FIND THE RESPONDENTS IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE SET FORTH IN THE STATEMENTS OF VIOLATION THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME FOR COMPLIANCE AND SET A DAILY FINE TO BE IMPOSED IF THE RESPONDENTS FAIL TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. I FIND THAT ALL THE RESPONDENTS IN THE CASES LISTED BY THE SECRETARY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE SET FORTH IN THE STATEMENT OF VIOLATION.

THE RESPONDENTS IN THE CASES LISTED HAVE UNTIL JUNE 29TH, WHICH IS 15 DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THIS ORDER TO BRING THEIR PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE.

THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED TO IMPOSE A FINE OF $50 PER DAY FOR EACH AND EVERY VIOLATION THAT CONTINUES PAST THE DATE OF COMPLIANCE.

FOLLOWING CASES ON THE SET.

FINE. AGENDA ITEMS. 31 THROUGH 56.

I'M SORRY. ITEMS ONE THROUGH 30, IF NOT PREVIOUSLY HEARD, WILL BE HEARD ON CONSENT WITHOUT FURTHER TESTIMONY.

AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS REQUESTED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED UPON THE FILES PRESENTED.

THE CITY REPRESENTS THE ALL RESPONDENTS HAVE BEEN SERVED A NOTICE ACCORDING TO CHAPTER ONE 60 TWO OF THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES AND THE PALM BAY CODE OF WARRANTS.

THE RESPONDENTS ARE NOT PRESENT TO BE HEARD, AND THE CASES HAVE NOT COME INTO COMPLIANCE.

THE CITY IS SUBMITTING ALL EXHIBITS AND AFFIDAVITS INTO EVIDENCE IN THESE CASES AND REQUESTS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FIND THE RESPONDENTS IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE SET FORTH IN THE STATEMENT OF VIOLATION THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME FOR COMPLIANCE AND IMPOSE A FLAT FINE.

IF THE RESPONDENTS FAIL TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THE CITY ALSO REQUESTS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO TAKE ALL REASONABLE ACTIONS TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE AND CHARGE THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH REASONABLE COSTS OF THE ACTIONS ALONG WITH THE FINE IMPOSED, IF THE IF NOT IN COMPLIANCE BY THE COMPLIANCE.

FIND THAT ALL THE RESPONDENTS LIST IN THE CASES, IN THE CASES LISTED BY THE SECRETARY, IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE SET FORTH IN THE STATEMENTS OF VIOLATION.

THE RESPONDENTS IN THE CASES LISTED HAVE UNTIL JUNE 24TH, WHICH IS TEN DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THIS ORDER TO BRING THEIR RESPECTIVE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE OR PAY A FLAT FINE OF $200. I AUTHORIZED THE CITY TO TAKE ALL REASONABLE ACTIONS TO BRING THE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE AND CHARGE THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH THE REASONABLE COST OF THE ACTIONS ALONG WITH THE IMPOSED FINES.

CLIMBING CASES ON THE SET.

FINE. AGENDA ITEMS 31 THROUGH 56, IF NOT PREVIOUSLY HEARD, WILL BE HEARD ON CONSENT WITHOUT FURTHER TESTIMONY, AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS REQUESTED TO MAKE A DETERMINATION BASED UPON THE FILES PRESENTED.

THE CITY REPRESENTS THE ALL RESPONDENTS HAVE BEEN SERVED OR NOTICED ACCORDING TO CHAPTER ONE 60 TWO OF THE FLORIDA STATE STATUTES IN THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THE RESPONDENTS ARE NOT PRESENT TO BE HEARD IN THE CASES HAVE NOT COME INTO COMPLIANCE.

THE CITY IS SUBMITTING ALL EXHIBITS AND AFFIDAVITS INTO EVIDENCE IN THESE CASES AND REQUESTS THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE FIND THE RESPONDENTS IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE SET FORTH IN THE STATEMENTS OF VIOLATION THAT THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE SET A REASONABLE TIME FOR COMPLIANCE AND IMPOSE A FLAT FINE IF THE RESPONDENTS FAILED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE BY THE COMPLIANCE DATE. FIND THAT ALL THE RESPONDENTS IN THE CASE IS LISTED BY THE SECRETARY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE CODE SET FORTH IN THE STATEMENT OF VIOLATION.

THE RESPONDENTS IN THE CASE IS LISTED HAVE UNTIL JUNE 24TH, WHICH IS TEN DAYS AFTER THE DATE OF THIS ORDER TO BRING THEIR RESPECTIVE PROPERTIES INTO COMPLIANCE OR THE CITY IS AUTHORIZED TO IMPOSE A FLAT FINE OF $200 FOR THE VIOLATION.

NOW WE'RE DONE, RIGHT? OKAY.

AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO WE WILL CLOSE WE WILL CLOSE THE PROCEEDINGS AT 246.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.