[00:00:01] OK WITH THAT I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING. CALL IT TO ORDER. YVONNE IF [CALL TO ORDER:] YOU'LL TAKE ROLL. [ADOPTION OF MINUTES:] THE ADOPTION OF OUR MINUTES FOR THE REGULAR MEETING FEBRUARY 12TH OF 2019. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE REGULAR MEETING NUMBER 2012 19 02 MINUTES THAT'S FEBRUARY 12TH 2019. DAVE HERNANDEZ. SECOND. AND WITH THAT I CALL THE VOTE, I GUESS. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SO THE MINUTES ARE ADOPTED. WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE [PUBLIC COMMENTS: (Non-agenda items only)] FORWARD WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS. I MEAN WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC HERE I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR DISCUSSIONS  TONIGHT. NO COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC. OKAY. WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO [NEW BUSINESS:] BEGIN WITH THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS AND LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING AGAIN THANK YOU FOLKS FOR COMING OUT HERE. YOU KNOW I REALIZE THAT YOU ALL WORK WITH THE CITY BUT WE DO REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE INVESTING YOUR TIME YOUR FAMILY TIME OKAY TO COME OUT HERE AND EXPLAIN THINGS TO US BECAUSE AS MUCH AS WE LIVE HERE WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DO. YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE A BIG MYSTERY. IT'S LIKE THAT LITTLE PACKAGE YOU HAVE IN THE CRACKER JACK BOX. OKAY. YOU KNOW IT'S COOL BUT YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS. OKAY. SO FIRST UP WHO'S GOING TO DO THEIR FIRST PRESENTATION. LISA, WANT TO BEGIN? I BELIEVE YOUR AGENDA PACKET SAYS THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT AND IT WILL BE PRESENTED BY TERESE JONES OUR CITY CLERK. SO HERE WE GO. THE FASTEST PRESENTATION YOU WILL EVER HEAR. ALL RIGHT TERESE. GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS AS YOU ARE AWARE THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND THE LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT IS COMPRISED OF THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND MYSELF ALONG WITH THREE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES THAT FALL UNDER MY DIRECTION. THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO OPERATES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY CHARTER AND THE CHARTER OFFICERS WHICH AGAIN MYSELF, CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY ALL ARE APPOINTED AND REPORT DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL. EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS 2020 BUDGET PRIORITIES. I WANTED TO PUT THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR PRIORITIES THE CAMPAIGN REPORT SOFTWARE AND THE AGENDA SOFTWARE ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS AND THE CLOSED CAPTIONING IS ALREADY LIVE FOR THE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND BOARD MEETINGS AND THE LAST ITEM UP THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION THIS YEAR IF APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT MAY GET PUSHED OUT TO NEXT YEAR MAY NOT HAPPEN AT ALL THAT HAS YET TO BE DETERMINED. AS FAR AS NEXT YEAR PRIORITIES. WE'RE LOOKING AT PUBLIC RECORDS SOFTWARE WHICH WE DEFINITELY NEED AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT UPGRADES TO THE MICROPHONES AND SPEAKERS RIGHT HERE IN OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WE DON'T HAVE PRICES FOR THOSE AS YET. I AM STILL RESEARCHING THOSE COSTS RIGHT NOW. AND THEN FINALLY OUR PERSONNEL AND OPERATING COSTS. AS SHOWN HERE I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL INCREASES EXCEPT THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES. BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I AM AVAILABLE. THE MICROPHONES HERE. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AND WHY ARE YOU LOOKING BECAUSE I LOVE THIS THING. THEY ARE THEY DO NOT WORK AS WELL AS THEY USED TO. THEY'RE AT LEAST 15 YEARS OLD. I MEAN WE HAVE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THEM INCLUDING THE SPEAKERS. SO JUST JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY I MEAN IF WE WERE ASKING YOU LIKE OUT OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS HERE THAT WE HAVE IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU ABSOLUTELY COULD LIVE WITHOUT. WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT YOU  WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW DAWN, I WASN'T GOING TO DO SOMETHING. I KNOW HOW MUCH YOU LOVE THE SPEAKERS THERE. YOU KNOW I'LL LET YOU HAVE IT FOR AT LEAST ANOTHER YEAR. WHAT DO YOU SAY. OF COURSE IF COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WITH THE BOARD'S  RECOMMENDATION WAS TO FOREGO THAT FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF COURSE I WILL DO WHAT IS [00:05:01] WHATEVERS. BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I LIKE YOU. OK. AND YOU KNOW THIS IS A LONG TERM RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE. AND OF COURSE I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU HEARTBURN IN ANY WAY, SERIOUSLY. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT COME THROUGH AND MAYBE ARE NOT AS EXCITED ABOUT THIS AS I AM. OK. ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS. YES I HAD JUST A MINOR QUESTION FROM SLIDE 4 TALKS ABOUT THE MICROPHONES AND I THINK THAT WAS THE QUESTION YOU HAD JUST ASKED DAWN OR CHAIRWOMAN BITTAR. BUT I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP. WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION FOR SPEAKERS BEING INSTALLED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF CHAMBERS ON THE OUTSIDE LONG THE AREA WHERE THE CURRENT SECURITY SCREENING IS HELD FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS? THAT HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED BUT OF COURSE WE CAN DEFINITELY THROW THAT IN WHEN WE GO INTO THE BID PROCESS. OK. I WAS JUST CURIOUS [INAUDIBLE] IF WE GO INTO THE BID PROCESS. YES EXACTLY. AT A FUTURE DATE POSSIBLY AARON. YOU KNOW I MEAN WE ARE HERE TO TRIM SOME FAT. I LOVE YOU MAN. OKAY. BUT I LOVE THE IDEA BY THE WAY THE BIG SCREEN. MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING WE REALLY LOOK AT FOR SOMETHING AND ON ANOTHER DATE WHEN WE'RE NOT TRYING TO FIND MONEYS FOR OUR ROADS RIGHT NOW AND THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO SAY. AND I LOVE TRANSPARENCY. OK. EVEN OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE I REALIZE A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE LARGE FUNCTIONS I THINK THIS IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS AARON WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM HERE IN COUNCIL TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO SEE AND PARTICIPATE. BUT IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT OFF FOR AT LEAST ONE MORE YEAR BEFORE WE CONSIDER SPENDING IT, I WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN ITEM FOR THE SCRAP YARD FOR A BETTER TERM TILL MAYBE ANOTHER YEAR OR SO. UNDERSTOOD. ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU. WHO'S UP NEXT? AND THANK YOU AARON AGAIN. SERIOUSLY I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE BIG SCREEN OUTSIDE. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES. MAY I ASK A QUESTION. YES. ARE WE JUST LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATIONS AND TAKING THIS IN OR ARE WE REALLY ARE WE LISTENING AND GOING TO GIVE, ASK THAT QUESTION LIKE IS THIS SOMETHING YOU NEED NOW AND DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE FOR OR NOT FOR. WELL I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY I THINK THE DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO DECIDE ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING. I THINK THAT'S IS JUST SOMETHING THAT ME AS A A BOARD PERSON AND A CITIZEN HERE IN OUR CITY AND UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS TO TRY TO FIND SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS. AND IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM THAT WE CAN SQUEEZE THIS ORANGE TO COME UP WITH THAT I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADED. WELL. I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT JUST SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE ALREADY TELLING HER THAT THE MICROPHONES CAN WAIT FOR A YEAR AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE. NO NO. I JUST KIND,  I GUESS I WAS JUST REALLY KIND OF ASKING BASED ON A RELATIONSHIP THAT I DO HAVE WITH TERESE AND A LONG TERM ONE WITH HER THAT YOU KNOW I WOULD HONESTLY IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CONSIDERED TO BE AS A UTMOST PRIORITY THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE. BUT YOU KNOW I THINK AGAIN I THINK AS A BUDGETARY ADVISORY BOARD PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT IS WHAT THESE FOLKS CAN AND CANNOT LIVE WITH LONG TERM AND SHORT TERM. AND YOU KNOW WE HAVE IDEAS UP HERE THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED TO US THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT. AND FOR ME I JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND PERSONALLY IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE MARRIED TO I KNOW THESE AREN'T FINAL NUMBERS YET AND THAT ALL THE MANAGERS HAVE YET TO PRESENT THEIR FINAL NUMBERS AND HERE WE ARE. SO THAT WAS JUST IT. WAS JUST A FRIEND TO FRIEND DISCUSSION REALLY. ON THE CHAIR. YES. SO YOU DON'T MOVE OVER ANY CLOSER. WHAT IS IT?  IT'S A LIZARD. OH MY GOD. DO YOU WANT ME TO GET HIM? [INAUDIBLE] I CAN SHARE REAL QUICKLY.  I'M SORRY. YES. AND I REMEMBER BACK EARLY ON WHEN I WAS KIND OF PETITIONING TO GET THIS WHOLE THING SET IN MOTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT. I CAN TELL YOU MY INTENTION AND WE CAN USE THAT GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION I'M GOOD EITHER WAY. I'M WANTING US TO HEAR FROM ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS AND BE ABLE TO ASK HAVE A Q & A WITH THEM TO DISCUSS WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING [00:10:01] AT. AND THEN WE COME TOGETHER AS A BOARD TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATION JUST LIKE WE WOULD IN THE ORIGINAL SITUATION THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO. AND THAT'S MY THOUGHT. I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE THIS CONVERSATION OF THAT WORKSHOP AND THAT WORKSHOP AND THAT THIS TAKES PRIORITY OVER THAT RIGHT NOW NECESSARY,  THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD AGAIN IN ANOTHER MEETING RIGHT NOW IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ASK QUESTIONS IF WE'RE CONCERNED OR NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK ON FOR PROJECTS. THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL INTENT. WE CAN GO WITH THAT OR WE CAN GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT TO DO. SO I GUESS I'M GATHERING THAT EVERYBODY HERE ON THE BOARD DOESN'T WANT TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS DURING THESE PRESENTATIONS AND THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THEM PRESENT THEM AND WRITE DOWN OUR QUESTIONS AND THEN JUST DISCUSS IT AS A BOARD AS OPPOSED TO DISCUSSING  IT WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING OR WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO? BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY ASK QUESTIONS AS WE JUST DID. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO  ASK THEM QUESTIONS HERE. I'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS WRITTEN DOWN FOR EVERY PRESENTATION HERE AS WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT [INAUDIBLE]. I MEAN WE AS A BOARD WILL COME TOGETHER TO MAKE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE END OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING. SO WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ASK TERESE, AARON? NO I'M GOOD. OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEXT DEPARTMENT UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO ASK. OKAY GOOD. SO NEXT UP LISA. THANK YOU. WELL GOOD EVENING. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE  PRESENTATION PROBABLY SECOND FASTEST. NO I ACTUALLY HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS TO DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD SO GO QUICKLY FOR. OUR DEPARTMENT MISSION. CITY MANAGER REPORTS THE CITY COUNCIL. WE IMPLEMENT THE POLICY SET BY CITY COUNCIL AND WE OVERSEE THE OPERATIONS OF ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS. PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. SO A FEW MORE THINGS WE DO BUT I JUST IT'S IN THE MISSION THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CORE SERVICES IN THE CHARTER. OUR PRIORITIES. AND I GAVE THIS TO THE OUR BUDGET KICKOFF MEETING WITH ALL DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THIS IS THE PRIORITY LIST OF THINGS THAT I AS A CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DEPARTMENTS DO FOR THE SEASON. WE HAVE OUR SAME FORMS AND OUR SAME KIND OF DRILL BUT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR SO OBVIOUSLY YOU NEED A BUDGET YOUR DEBT AND YOUR CONTRACTUAL NEEDS FIRST. SO DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE CONTRACTUAL THREE  YEAR, FIVE YEAR AGREEMENTS THOSE HAVE CPI OR INCREASES THOSE HAVE TO BE BUDGETED FIRST IF YOU HAVE DEBT OR NEW DEBT. WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THAT FIRST. I ASKED THEM TO REVIEW ALL THEIR UNFILLED AND VACANT POSITIONS WHEN WE KICKED OFF THE BUDGET. THERE WERE 78 OPEN UNFILLED VACANCIES BUT YOU KNOW I'M NOT THE EXPERT. THOSE ARE THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR NEEDS. SO TO REVIEW THOSE CAREFULLY. OPTIONS WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE FUNDINGS FROM PERSONNEL AND ALL THOSE BENEFITS AND ALL THOSE THAT WE'RE BUDGETING FOR IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE  THE PERSON OR DON'T NEED IT THEN MOVE IT TO YOUR OPERATING BUDGET AT LEAST THE SALARY AND THE BENEFITS CAN BE REDUCED THAT THE H.R. LEVEL BECAUSE THOSE ARE BUDGETED WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET. ALL THE BENEFITS HEALTH CARE DENTAL WORKERS COMP ALL THAT STUFF. FILL IT, DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GONNA DO WITH IT FILL IT OR REMOVE IT AND BASED ON YOUR OPERATIONAL NEED MAYBE DON'T NEED THE POSITION AND JUST KIND OF LIKE HOLDING OUT FOR ONE DAY THAT YOU MIGHT NEED THAT POSITION AS DOLLARS BUT JUST REMOVE IT. AND IF YOU NEED IT LATER IN THE FUTURE YEARS TO ASK FOR IT THEN. I ALSO ASK  FOR LINE ITEM DETAIL INPUT OF THE OPERATING ACCOUNTS. SO WHEN WE GO INTO OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT WE'RE NOT JUST COPYING PASTING FROM LAST YEAR. GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT YOU KNOW PRINTING PAPER. WHAT ARE MISCELLANEOUS SUPPLIES, T SHIRTS WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT YOU NEED. UNIFORMS BOOTS HOW MANY IF YOU'RE REPLACING CITYWIDE FACILITY THINGS. GIVE ME A PERCENTAGE OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED. SO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED SO WE KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.  ALSO I ASKED THEM TO KEEP THEIR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BASED ON  ACHIEVABLE PERFORMANCE FOR THAT YEAR. I DON'T WANT TO GO, MY NEXT SLIDE WILL ACTUALLY KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT. SO WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THAT ONE YEAR WHAT IS THE OPERATING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE BECAUSE YOU NEED TO PRIORITIZE THOSE FOR THE NEW FUNDING REQUESTS AND I WILL NOT PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL UNFUNDED REQUESTS FROM LAST YEAR THAT TOTALED 16 MILLION DOLLARS. IT'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF THINGS IF WE HAD 16 MILLION EXTRA DOLLARS ARE YOU GOING TO BE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT IN ONE YEAR IS THE QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF. SO THERE'S NO POINT IN LETTING US KNOW THAT YOU NEED 53 NEW BUDGETING OPERATING ADJUSTMENT REQUESTS WHEN YOU REALLY ONLY NEED THE TOP 10. SO TO FINITE THAT. THOSE FIVE YEAR CIP CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE LONG TERM GOAL PROJECTS PUT THOSE IN YOUR PLAN. SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT WERE LISTED IN THEIR 52 LAUNDRY LIST COULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY LONGER PARTIALLY YEARS PHASED IN. SO TO LOOK AT THAT FIVE YEARS CIP YOU HAVE THE BUDGET FROM LAST YEAR YOU SEE THE CIP IS PRETTY SMALL. WE HAD JUST STARTED KIND OF FUNDING OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING REQUESTS IN THE BUDGETS FROM PRIOR YEARS. SO MAYBE THIS YEAR LOOKS MORE HEALTHY BUT THE NEXT ITEM IS I WANT TO [00:15:01] BUDGET 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND. IT'S A LOFTY GOAL BUT I'D LIKE TO DO THAT. IF IT'S $1.5  I'D STILL BE THRILLED. IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING THAT WE'VE BUDGETED THIS YEAR. I KNOW THAT OUR NEED IS SEVEN WITH A ROAD BOND THAT PASSED AT $150 MILLION AS WE'RE DOING THOSE PROJECTS IF WE CAN BUILD UP OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND DURING THE TIME OF USING THE BOND MONEY INSTEAD IN FIVE YEARS YOU MIGHT HAVE A NICE POCKET OF TWO NEXT YEAR THREE MILLION, FOUR, FIVE ESCALATING KIND OF WEANING THE BUDGETS DOWN AS YOUR CONSTRUCTION AND YOUR NEW COMMERCIAL AND YOUR NEW AD VELOREM TAXES COME THROUGH FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS YOU MIGHT BUILD A BUDGET THAT LITTLE BIT MORE EASILY AND STILL MAINTAIN YOUR NEEDS ACROSS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. IT'S A LOFTY GOAL BUT IT'S POSSIBLE. WE'D LIKE TO BUDGET WITHIN THE 3 PERCENT CAP. THAT'S A CHARTER. WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO BACK FOR A SUPER MAJORITY VOTE. WE'D LIKE THE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DECISION OF THE BASIS THAT THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO CUT OR NOT SEE IF THEY THINK IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR CRITICAL NEED BASED ON THAT CHARTER THAN THEY CAN DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO GO ABOVE  THAT 3 PERCENT CAP BUT I DON'T WANT TO PRESENT A BUDGET THAT'S ABOVE THE CAP ALREADY. OUR CURRENT MILLAGE RATE IS 8.45.  THAT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY ATTRACT COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER. SO IF I CAN GET A BETTER TAX RATE IN ANOTHER CITY THAN I'M GONNA BRING MY BUSINESS THERE SO IF WE CAN BRING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND STILL MAINTAIN LOWERING IT A LITTLE BIT IS BETTER THAN NOT LOWERING IT AT ALL. ONE THING WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IN 10 YEARS OR ASKED FOR WAS A MERIT INCREASE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. GENERAL EMPLOYEES HAVE NOT RECEIVED A PAY INCREASE FOR MERITS. THEY'VE GOT A CPI THAT IS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL. IT'S ALREADY BUILT INTO THE BUDGET USUALLY 2 OR 2 AND A HALF PERCENT ON A GOOD YEAR. WE'D LIKE TO OFFER UP TO A 1 PERCENT PERFORMANCE INCREASE TO A SALARY FOR AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S DOING WELL. WAY ABOVE THE SATISFACTORY LEVEL OF OUR THINGS BUT IT'S NOT A MANDATORY IT'S JUST A THING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB THEY'VE PUT OFF A LOT OF THINGS AND I APPRECIATE THEM AND VALUE THEM. OKAY THAT WAS OUR. THAT WAS OUR BUDGET KICKOFF. THOSE WERE THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF GAVE THEM AS A DEPARTMENTS AS A WHOLE HOLISTIC LOOK AT APPROACHING THE BUDGET THIS YEAR. QUESTIONS? BEFORE I GO ONTO MY TINY BUDGET. SO I'M GOING TO LET EVERYBODY ASK THEIRS FIRST AND I'D LIKE TO BE LAST IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. SO I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ASK LISA ANY QUESTIONS? WELL I'LL ASK ONE QUESTION LISA. WHO'S THIS PLEASE. HELLO. WHO'S SPEAKING. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. THIS IS AARON PARR. THANKS. THANKS AARON. I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK ONE QUESTION. WITH WHAT HAPPENED FROM GOING FROM FISCAL YEAR 18 TO 19 AND KEEPING A MILLAGE RATE THE SAME. WHAT DID THAT CREATE THE RECALL ON A CHANGE IN REVENUE FOR THE CITY THAT GOT TO WORK WITH THE BUDGET FROM. WHAT WAS THE INCREASE IN VALUE INCREASE OF RECEIPTS FOR THE CITY. I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. OK. OK. NOT A PROBLEM. WAS MORE FOCUSED ON THE 2020 BUDGET. SO I REALLY DIDN'T LOOK AT HISTORIC VALUE, I JUST KNOW IT HAS INCREASED I THINK YOU KNOW $72 MILLION IS YOUR TOTAL BUDGET SO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LISA. ALL RIGHT. SO FOR ME LISA I MEAN YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD MAINTENANCE AND THAT HAS BEEN THE FOCUS OF I WOULD SAY 90 PERCENT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS. OK FAIR. PRETTY MUCH, OK. I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY SEE THE PLAN ON PAPER. OK. AND A COMMITMENT FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO GUARANTEE A PERMANENT ITEM FOR THAT AS AN EXPENSE OR THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOWS UP AS AN EXPENSE AND AN EXPECTED EXPENSE JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE. OK. AND I THINK THAT'S THE HEARTBURN THAT I HAVE WITH OUR BUDGET AS A WHOLE. BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE. RIGHT. IT'S NOT THERE IT'S NOT BUDGETED. THEY WERE WAITING ON LAND SALES OR SURPLUS CITY SALES TO PROMOTE THAT FUND OR YOU KNOW IN OTHER WAYS IN FUNCTIONS OF IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A STORM THIS YEAR WE TRANSFER IN A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM THE FUND BALANCE TO MAKE IT. THAT'S WHY WE'RE WHERE WE'RE AT. RIGHT. SO THE BUDGET IS A PLAN. IT'S NOT A CHECKBOOK. THAT'S CERTAINLY WILL BE PUT INTO PLANS FOR WE KIND OF THROW INTO THE MIX OF THINGS THAT WE PRESENT TO COUNCIL AND THAT'S BASED ON REVENUES AND RECEIVABLES. I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE I KNOW I LOOKED AT YVONNE'S  OVERVIEW SHE GAVE YOU ON OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR FUNDS. SO GENERAL FUND PUBLIC WORKS IS A FIVE MILLION DOLLAR DEPARTMENT. SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GET 2 OR 7 MILLION DOLLARS THAT THEY'RE ONLY A 5 MILLION DOLLAR [00:20:02] DEPARTMENT WHAT PROGRAM GOES AWAY. SO IT'S REALLY NOT JUST A PUBLIC WORKS FUNCTION. IT'S A CITYWIDE FUNCTION OF LOOKING AT OTHER VACANCIES THEIR POSITIONS THEIR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO PUT INTO THAT ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND. SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT POSSIBLY THAT THE BUDGET DEVELOPS AN EXPENSE AND IT'S CALLED ROAD MAINTENANCE. WE HAVE A LINE ITEM ALREADY IT JUST HAS ZERO IN IT FOR  BUDGETING, SO THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT OUR INTENT THIS YEAR IS TO HOPEFULLY BUDGET FOR 2 MILLION AND THAT COMES FROM REDUCING BUDGET LINE ITEMS OR PROGRAMS OR INCREASED REVENUES THAT ARE BELOW THE 3 PERCENT CAP. SO AGAIN NOT TO SOUND AND BELABOR A POINT BUT YOU KNOW IF IT'S THERE LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IF IT IS THERE THEN WE WILL MOVE TOWARDS THAT. [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S THE INTENT. THAT'S WHY WE KICKED OFF THE BUDGET WITH THOSE FRAMEWORK PIECES IN PLACE AND WE'RE GOING TO HOPE WE GET TO THAT GOAL WHEN WE COME TO PRESENT OUR DEPARTMENT'S PRESENT TO MY OFFICE IN LATE MAY, JUNE. 1ST OF JUNE. 1ST OF JUNE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUNE WE GO OVER THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS ARE UNFUNDED. WE SEE WHAT THAT IS WE WORK WITH FINANCE THAT KIND OF SPOOL UP. WE GET OUR  JULY 4TH BEGINNING WE GET OUR KIND OF OUR WHAT REVENUES ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND THEN WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA WHAT THE FRAMEWORK REALLY IS BY THE NUMBERS. THIS IS JUST AT THIS POINT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES OF THINGS PEOPLE TO START TO THINK ABOUT TO BE COLLABORATIVE BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS AND GENERAL FUND TO THINK OF OTHERS OTHER THAN JUST THEIR PRIORITIES. SO BUDGET FOR THE YEAR. LOOK AT YOUR CIP LOOK AT YOUR VACANCIES LOOK AT YOUR PROGRAMS. TALK TO ONE ANOTHER SEE WHICH ONES NEEDS MORE MAYBE MORE THAN OTHERS. WE ALSO HAVEN'T YOU'LL HEAR FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS IN YOUR MEETINGS AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR OF THEIR PRIORITIES TOO. SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE GAVE THE DEPARTMENTS BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S PLENTY OF REQUESTS AND NEEDS. SO AND I KNOW THAT ROAD MAINTENANCE IS FOND AND YOU KNOW VERY LOVED BY YOU. AND WANTED. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE PLACED SUCH AN IMPORTANCE ON IT WITH ME. OKAY. AS IT IS ONE FOR THE CITIZENS AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. AND THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY AND THE CONCERNS AT THE BOTTOM LINE. NOW AGAIN THANK YOU BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THE PAST. SURE. TRULY. OK. AND IT'S A BREATH OF FRESH AIR WORKING WITH YOU. OK I'VE ENJOYED OUR DISCUSSIONS AS YOU ARE NOT A CLOSED MINDED PERSON AND YOU'RE VERY OPEN TO ALL IDEAS. SO THANK YOU. ALL POSSIBILITIES ARE POSSIBLE, RIGHT? WE ARE ONLY LIMITED BY OUR IMAGINATION RIGHT. VERY GOOD. OK, THERE ARE 78 VACANCIES. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LIST CONSISTS OF. AND FROM EACH DEPARTMENT. I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE IT'S SOME OF THE VACANT WE HAVE THE H.R. MAINTAINS THOSE AND IT'S THE SOME OF THEM ARE DIFFICULT TO FILL SO BUILDING INSPECTORS ARE TOUGH TO FILL BECAUSE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS DOING SO WELL AND IT'S I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S A CAREER THAT'S NOT GROWING AS FAST AS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COLLEGE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY TECHNICAL AND IT'S MORE OF THE SKILL LEVEL OF THE VOCATION OF INSPECTING BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCTION THAN IT IS ACTUALLY READING A BOOK AND PASSING A MATH TEST. SO WITH LESS FOLKS GOING INTO VOCATIONAL STATE OF FLORIDA HAS AS HAS A CRITERIA FOR THOSE BUILDING INSPECTORS THAT HAVE CERTAIN CERTIFICATES ALONG THE WAY AND THAT'S JUST NOT AN AVENUE MOST YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GOING TO. SO COULD BE A CONTRACTED SERVICES THAT WE CAN USE WE CAN USE THOSE THAT ARE OPERATING BUT THOSE VACANCIES STILL EXIST. RECRUITMENT OF POLICE OFFICERS IS ALSO A NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IT'S REALLY HARD TO GET POLICE OFFICERS TO RECRUIT TO PALM BAY. THAT CAREER IS NOT AS FOND. I LOVE THAT CAREER BUT NOT EVERYBODY ELSE LOVES THAT CAREER AS MUCH AS WE DO WE HAD WE STILL. IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO RECRUIT AND TRAIN AND PUT AN OFFICER ON THE STREET IT ALSO TAKES A LOT OF CAPITAL MONIES TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S JUST A LOT THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT. SO SOME OF THOSE VACANCIES ARE JUST HARD TO FILL. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ARE ENGINEERING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO FILL JUST BECAUSE OF SALARIES AND RANGES BUT THOSE THAT'S WHERE WE START TO LOOK AT THE OTHER THINGS THAT MAYBE WE DON'T NEED THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE MORE EITHER TRACTABLE OR FILLABLE AS A TEAM. AND THEN THE DISCUSSION OF THE MERIT INCREASES. LOOK I DON'T I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE DISAGREES THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING. SURE. IN ORDER TO KEEP GOOD PEOPLE. ALL RIGHT. WHAT  WOULD ONE PERCENT LOOK LIKE AS AN EXPENSE THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION AS A? UNCALCULATED, BUT THAT WAS MY GOAL. IT COULD BE LESS THAN THAT SO IF WE HAVE DEPENDING ON, WELL I DON'T WANT TO SAY DEPENDING ON THE REVIEW SHEET BUT THERE ARE TWO REVIEW SHEETS WE HAVE TO STANDARDIZE. SO THERE'S ONE THAT HAS THREE CATEGORIES OF YOU KNOW NEEDS IMPROVEMENT SATISFACTORY ABOVE THE BOARD OR USE THE ONE THAT HAS FIVE WHICH IS YOU KNOW SATISFACTION IS MORE IN THE MIDDLE THERE'S TWO THAT NEED IMPROVEMENT UNSATISFACTORY THEN THERE'S GREAT OR EXCELLENT. AND THEN LIKE SUPERIOR LOW SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE PERCENT I'M LIKE IF YOU EARN A SUPERIOR MAYBE YOU'RE ENTITLED TO 1 PERCENT MAYBE IF YOU DO BETTER THAN AVERAGE 1/2 PERCENT IF YOU DO SATISFACTORY AND YOU JUST MAINTAIN. [00:25:03] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE. I HAVEN'T CALCULATED THAT, I JUST  PUT OUT HIS FRAMEWORK IT'S EARLY. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. ME TOO. IT'S A GOAL WITH US IT'S NOT A NECESSARY IT'S JUST A GOAL SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO WORK TOWARDS. ACTUALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY WOULD BE MORE NECESSARY BECAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN GOOD PEOPLE. OK. IT COSTS MONEY TO ATTRACT GOOD PEOPLE. YOU WANT TO KEEP THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE. SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IS NICE FOR SURE. IT'S A COMMODITY THAT YOU CAN'T JUST HIRE OFF THE STREET. IT DOES, SO PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR A LONG TIME HAVE STUCK THROUGH A LOT OF THE HARDSHIPS OR THE GOOD TIMES THE BAD TIMES AND ALL THE GOOD STUFF THAT WE GET. YOU'VE GOT MY SUPPORT ON THAT. OK. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SURE. AS FAR AS THE DOLLAR. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. AND THEN WE NEED TO MOVE ON. OBVIOUSLY I APOLOGIZE. NO IT'S FINE I JUST I'LL GIVE YOU MY QUICK BUDGET. YEP. SO TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET IS EIGHT HUNDRED TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED FORTY EIGHT DOLLARS, 13 PERCENT OF THAT IS OPERATING THE REST OF IT IS PERSONNEL IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. NICE LITTLE GRAPHIC. MOST OF OUR OPERATING BUDGET OF THE HUNDRED EIGHT THOUSAND. BIG BIG EXPENSE ON THERE IS THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OF 52. THOSE ARE BROKEN DOWN INTO CONSULTING SERVICES OF $19,008. KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL CONTRACT $29,009, BIT A LITTLE PLUG FOR APRIL 6TH  IS PALM BAY'S KBB TRASH BASH DAY. WE'RE INVITING ALL THE PUBLIC OUT FROM 8 TO 12 TO CLEAN UP TRASH IN THE CITY SO WE PAID FOR THE SERVICE WE PAY FOR THE  PARTNERSHIP. WHAT DAY IS IT? APRIL 6TH 8 TO 12. CLEAN UP OUR CITY. IT'S THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT I GET IN MY OFFICE IS TRASH ON THE RIGHT A WAY AND FLOATING AROUND THE CITY. WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO E-MAIL ME THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. GOT IT. AND THE  ART DISPLAY WITHIN CITY HALL 700 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THEM TO SWITCH OUT THE ART. WE HAVE TO TRAVEL $12,005. GENERAL OFFICE SUPPLIES I DIDN'T GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THIS. IT'S JUST PRINTING AND GENERAL PENS AND PAPERS AND COPIER LEASES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. $11,008. WE DO HAVE SOME CITY TRAINING EVENTS, 2200 DOLLARS. MEMBERSHIPS. THAT'S MOSTLY CHAMBER MEMBERSHIPS $15,005. AND THEN TRAINING FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IS $14,003. OF THE PERSONNEL IT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EQUATION OF OPERATING. THE PERSONNEL [INAUDIBLE]. IT'S FULL TIME SALARIES AND WAGES $511,449. OUR BENEFITS ARE $207,114. WE HAVE 5 FTES IN THE DEPARTMENT. CITY MANAGER, 2 DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS, 1 OFFICE MANAGER AND 1 ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT. AND THOSE BODIES ANSWER THE PHONES EVERY TIME YOU CALL BECAUSE WE'RE ALL IN MEETINGS. AND I THINK. CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SURE. GO AHEAD AARON. PLEASE. YES THIS IS AARON PARR, I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY ASK. I KNOW LAST YEAR THIS BOARD MADE A MOTION AND WE ASKED TO DO A STUDY OF THE JOBS IN THE CITY TO COMPARE IT TO LIKE CITY SIZE AND CITIES OF SIMILAR SIZE AND JUST SEE IF OUR STRUCTURE AND OUR PAY SCALES WERE APPROPRIATE MAKING SURE WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES. AND I WAS JUST WONDERING MS. MORRELL IF YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN KICK  OFF AND MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL TO  GET THAT DONE OR WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE SURE OR DO WE HAVE RESULTS OR HAVE WE DONE ONE OF THESE [INAUDIBLE] ALREADY. SO YOU'RE SPEAKING OF A SALARY SURVEY WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE TO MY KNOWLEDGE. I DON'T THINK WAS BUDGETED. IT IS AN EXPENSE TO GO UP AND DO THAT. SO IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THAT SERVICE ISN'T BEING DONE WE COULD DO A IN-HOUSE SURVEY BUT THAT'S NOT VERY OBJECTIVE BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE YOUR H.R. DEPARTMENT WHO HAS WORKED HERE AND HAS JOBS AND EMPLOYEES AS WELL EVALUATING WHETHER OR NOT YOU KNOW THEIR CO-WORKER OR OTHERWISE PEER IS EARNING ENOUGH OR NOT EARNING ENOUGH. SO IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THAT SERVICE DONE OUTSIDE AND FINDING A COMPARATIVE CITY ALL THE TIME IN ALL THE FACULTIES WHETHER IT'S SIZE WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW BASED ON YOUR BUDGET DOLLARS. THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT A THIRD PARTY DOES WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET AN AVERAGE SUM AND THAT THEY CAN GO NATIONWIDE AND THEN GO JUST WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO THAT IS A SERVICE THAT WOULD NEED TO BE BUDGETED THROUGH THE H.R. DEPARTMENT AND THEN ACTUALLY EXECUTED. SO THAT WOULD BE A REQUEST FOR NEXT YEAR IF THAT'S WHAT THIS BOARD WOULD RECOMMEND THE COUNCIL TO DO. I MAKE A DISCLOSURE. I WORK FOR A COMPANY THAT DOES SALARY SURVEYS AND I BELIEVE WE'RE THE LARGEST COMPANY IN THE WORLD THAT DOES THAT KIND OF THING AND THERE IS AN EXPENSE  ASSOCIATED WITH IT. YES. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN DOING THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU FIND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE GROSSLY UNDERPAID OR GROSSLY OVERPAID AND ANOMALIES LIKE THAT NEED TO BE CORRECTED. WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT ONCE BEFORE BUT OBVIOUSLY THERE WERE THERE WAS A WHOLE LITANY OF OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE GOING ON AS WELL. AND I THINK [00:30:02] THAT WAS WHAT KIND OF PROMPTED THIS WHOLE VENUE THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW TO BE VERY FRANK IF I RECALL. YES. YES THEY GOT LOST IN THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY MYSELF AND AARON. IT GOT LOST IN THAT AND NOT CONVEYED IT KIND OF WAS SHUT DOWN BY THE LAST CITY MANAGER DO BECAUSE THERE WAS A COST. SO IT WASN'T EVEN AN OPTION OF PUTTING IT IN THE BUDGET. I THINK IT WAS TOO LATE. BY THE WAY THE PROCESS WE DID LAST TIME SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IF IT IS BROUGHT UP AND EARLY NOW AND IT MADE AN OPTION FOR A CONSIDERATION. AND I THINK THAT WAS WHAT VERY FRANKLY MY THOUGHTS AND TRYING TO GET THE 78 VACANCIES AS WELL WAS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND. OH SURE. FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT WHERE WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY AS WELL. SURE. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO PROBABLY MAYBE DISCLOSE AS WELL IS  COUNCIL'S ASKED US AND GIVEN US DIRECTION WHEN WE HAVE A VACANCY OPEN THAT IT GOES BACK TO THE MINIMUM RANGE OF THE POSITION. SO LET'S SAY I'M IN MY POSITION FOR 20 YEARS AND I'VE GOT MY CIPS AND OVER THE YEARS OR A LITTLE RAISES HERE AND THERE. AND THEN YOU KNOW I'M EARNING I STARTED AT 30 AND I MIGHT LEAVE AND IT'S SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND PLUS BENEFITS WHEN I VACATE. IF THE RANGE OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION IS STILL AT THIRTY THREE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL IS TO ADVERTISE AT THE THIRTY THREE EVEN THOUGH I'M BUDGETED AT SIXTY FIVE. IT LEAVES US ROOM TO NEGOTIATE A LITTLE BIT BUT REALLY THE RULES AND REGS OF THE OPERATION ALSO LEND ITSELF ONLY TO A 5 OR 10 PERCENT NEGOTIATION. AFTER THAT IT HAS TO GO TO CITY MANAGER FOR FURTHER APPROVAL. SITTING IN THE BIG CHAIR AS PEOPLE CALL IT, YOU DON'T LIKE TO JUST ISSUE 20 PERCENT RAISES FOR NEW HIRES WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE THAT HAVE NOT RECEIVED RAISES FOR LIKE I SAID EARLIER TEN YEARS. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE SIGNING THOSE PIECE OF PAPER UNLESS IT'S TRULY TRULY WARRANTED. AND I CAN'T SAY THAT I'VE FOUND A TRULY WARRANTED POSITION THUS FAR AND IT'S I KNOW A SHORT STINT BUT THAT  WOULD MEAN IT'S VERY HARD TO SIGN THAT PAPER LIKE 20 PERCENT HIGHER THAN SOMEONE WHO IS OR A POLICE OFFICER WAS HIRED FIVE MONTHS AGO AND THIS ONE GETS YOU KNOW 20 PERCENT MORE. WHY? SO I WOULDN'T DISAGREE WITH THE SALARY SURVEY I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY EQUITABLE. I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD ENJOY IT AS WELL. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF YOUR COUNCIL HAS SET POLICY TO SAY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU JOB VACATES TO GO BACK TO THE MINIMUM RANGE. IT KIND OF CONFLICTS WITH THEIR DIRECTION. SO AGAIN MY FOCUS ON THE OVERALL JOBS. OK. FIRST OFF I'VE SAID THIS TO YOU AT LEAST PERSONALLY AND I SAY THIS AS A WHOLE. OK. I'M NOT HERE TO MICROMANAGE WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU DO WITH THE FOLKS IN THE CITY BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T WORK WITH THEM SIDE BY SIDE. I KNOW WHAT A GREAT JOB THEY DO AS A WHOLE. OK BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW EACH PERSON OPERATES WITHIN THE OPERATION. I LEAVE THAT TO YOU FOLKS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. OK GREAT. AND VERY FRANKLY THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE JOB PAY SCALE AS I'D MENTIONED BEFORE I THINK PAYING PEOPLE A MERIT RATE INCREASE IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT AS A WHOLE. AND PART OF WHAT WE DO AS A WHOLE AS A CITY TO PROMOTE GOOD PEOPLE. LOOK THIS IS WHAT WE OFFER THIS IS WHAT WE DO. SO ANYWAYS I APOLOGIZE. I KNOW I'VE DERAILED  THINGS AGAIN. SO GO AHEAD. BACK TO THE. YOU WERE SAYING TRACI. I APOLOGIZE. I WAS JUST SAYING YES THAT WE DID DISCUSS IT. WE HAD ASKED FOR THE RECOMMENDATION. THE RECOMMENDATION GOT LOST IN TRANSITION SOMEWHERE. IT WOULD BE NICE JUST TO JUST TO SEE IT AS AN OPTION. NOT SAYING THAT IT  HAS TO BE BUT JUST TO SEE THAT OUR VOICE WAS HEARD. SO I THINK SO AS A GROUP HERE I THINK IF TRACI IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK AS A DISCUSSION WHEN WE ALL GET TOGETHER. AARON BROUGHT IT UP. AARON. YES. I'M SORRY BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST NOT HERE AND I LOOK OVER AND IT'S A VACANT SEAT SO I DO APOLOGIZE. I KNOW YOU'RE ON THE SPEAKER. BOO. BOO, YES. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK UP SO WE CAN AS A BOARD DISCUSS THIS AND YOU CAN BRING A MOTION IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO ON SOMETHING AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS FURTHER IF YOU'D LIKE. OR IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR LISA PLEASE.  WE GOOD? I'M GOOD. OK. THANK YOU. NEXT. WHO IS NEXT?  LEGAL. LEGAL FIRST. YEAH. PATRICIA IS  GOING FIRST. [INAUDIBLE] I TRIED I REALLY DID. EXCUSE ME CAN I JUST ASK ONE MORE QUESTION. YOU KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE MILLAGE RATE OF 8.45. I [00:35:05] MEAN TO ATTRACT COMMERCIAL AND I GET THIS. OKAY. I GET THIS AND WE NEED COMMERCIAL. YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. I MEAN ISN'T THERE A WAY TO DELINEATE. FORTUNATELY YOUR TAX STRUCTURE IS SET AT FOR ALL PARCELS AND WHETHER TO DESIGNATE AS RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL IT'S 8.45. SO YOU KNOW I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR FUNCTION OF OUR GO GROW BOND IT SAID LIKE 46 PERCENT OF OUR TAXABLE RESIDENTIAL IS LESS THAN TAXED AT LESS THAN 10 PERCENT TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS EXCUSE ME. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE A BIG GAP. SO. COULDN'T WE GIVE  LIKE A PROMOTIONAL MILLAGE RATE DISCOUNT BOGO YOU KNOW COME BUY ONE GET TWO FREE WHATEVER HOWEVER YOU NEED TO DO IT TO ATTRACT COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME PAYLESS FOR PALM BAY TAGLINE THAT GOES WITH IT. I REALLY WANT TO. AGREED. AGREED. IT'S A VERY GREAT COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIDE IN SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SELF INVESTING [INAUDIBLE]. OF COURSE OF COURSE. BUT THIS WOULD NOT BE A LONG TERM THING. THERE ARE THINGS THAT PROVIDE A SHORT TERM LIKE A BUY DOWN OF SOME SORT. MAYBE LANGUAGE. I DON'T KNOW MS. THE ATTORNEY WOULD BE THE SMARTER PERSON IN THE ROOM TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS NOT SOMETHING PERMANENT BUT SOMETHING SHORT TERM. WELL THE EDC DOES HELP US OUT IN THOSE WAYS FOR RETAINING AND ALSO FOR ATTRACTION TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA FOR RELOCATION SO THAT THEY HAVE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS FOR THE STATE. I KNOW FOR RETAINERS THERE'S TAX ABATEMENT THEY CAN THEY CAN FILE FOR IF THEY HAVE WE'VE HAD SOME INCENTIVES IN THE PAST. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT TOO. WE'VE DONE THOSE THINGS BEFORE WE'VE ACTUALLY  WE EVEN DID A MORATORIUM ON OUR TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND I THINK WE EARNED ONE BUSINESS THAT YEAR. IS IT BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT ADVERTISED ENOUGH BECAUSE I MEAN AT THE END OF THE DAY. IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY ALL THOSE VARIABLES TO ONE YES OR NO QUESTION BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ALL CONSIDER AS A MANAGEMENT TEAM AS DEPARTMENT HEADS BECAUSE THOSE VALUES VALUE BACK INTO WHAT WE CAN SERVE FOR PROGRAMS AND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND  PLACEMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE AREN'T ABLE TO MAINTAIN TODAY. I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM A POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE OLD AND HAVE CERTAIN MILEAGE ON THEM THAT PROBABLY IF YOU HEARD THE MILEAGE YOU BE LIKE OH MY GOODNESS HOW DID THEY MAKE IT TO THE CALL. FLEET DOES A GREAT JOB IN MAINTAINING THOSE VEHICLES TO KEEP THEM ON THE ROAD. HOWEVER THERE IS A NEED. SO WE ALL COLLECTIVELY WONDERING THOSE SAME QUESTIONS. HOW CAN WE RETAIN HOW CAN WE GET THE WORD OUT HOW DO WE DO THAT. I THINK THE WORD OF MOUTH IS NEEDS TO BE POSITIVE FOR PALM BAY. PALM BAY PROUD AND THAT IS A BIG SORT OF MOUTH ADVERTISING THAT WE CAN DO AS CITIZENS WITH HUNDRED FIFTEEN THOUSAND OF US LIVING HERE SHARING THOSE GOOD STORIES AND TALKING ABOUT GOOD THINGS. SO JUST TO BE  CLEAR I DON'T THINK IN MY MIND I'M LOOKING TO TRY TO CREATE A DISCOUNT PROGRAM FOR PALM BAY BUT IT COSTS A BUSINESS TO BRING A BUSINESS AND ALL WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS TO TRY TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THAT TO ENTICE, THAT'S IT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MARKET VARIABLES TOO. SO WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE. THANK YOU.  [INAUDIBLE] IF I COULD JUST SHARE REAL QUICKLY. THIS IS AARON PARR AGAIN. I JUST RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM MR. ASHELEY HEPBURN REQUESTING TO BE CALLED AND TELECONFERENCE INTO THE MEETING AT THIS TIME HE IS AVAILABLE. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND LET THE CITY ATTORNEY CONTINUE WITH HER PRESENTATION. OKAY. HELLO. YES. OKAY. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OF COURSE OUR MISSION IS TO PROACTIVELY ETHICALLY AND ZEALOUSLY PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN AN EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE MANNER. I HAVE. IT'S REALLY SKIPPING. THE CORE SERVICES THE ARE LISTED THERE ESSENTIALLY OUR OFFICE PROVIDES AND SUPPORTS ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY. IT'S GOING BY ITSELF. MOVING. IT IS GOING MUCH FASTER. I SPEAK QUICKLY. [INAUDIBLE]  [00:40:41] CAN YOU JUST STOP. JUST STOP IT FROM MOVING. I'M FINE. [INAUDIBLE]. GET IT BACK TO THE FIRST GREEN OR GET OUT. OK. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS LISTED THERE IS PART OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE ON TWO PRESENTATIONS. I'LL DO THIS CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I HAVE OUR RISK MANAGER [INAUDIBLE] WHO WILL HANDLE THE RISK. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN ORDER TO KIND OF HELP UNDERSTAND THE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS REALLY DEALS WITH MORE OF THE LAND USE LABOR EMPLOYMENT PROCUREMENT BREACH OF CONTRACT THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES. WHEREAS OUR RISK DEALS WITH PERSONAL INJURY, PROPERTY DAMAGE, CAR ACCIDENTS, CIVIL RIGHTS CLAIMS VERSUS COMPENSATION AND THE INSURANCE COVERAGE. YOU'VE ALSO SEEN MOST OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S BUDGET IS PRETTY MUCH TWO ACCOUNTS REALLY THINK OF IT IS ONE ACCOUNT IS MORE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES. IT DEALS WITH THE PERSONNEL EXPENSES AT IN-HOUSE AND THE OTHER ACCOUNT DEALS WITH OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND OTHER LEGAL COUNSEL SERVICES. SOME OF THE BUDGET PRIORITIES WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. WE'RE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS. ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND US DICTATES WHAT WE DO AND ACTUALLY HOW PEOPLE RESPOND TO US. BUT WHAT WE DO IS A, ESSENTIALLY TRY TO ANTICIPATE WHERE DISPUTES MAY ARISE. HANG ON ONE SECOND. I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING YOU. OK. AND CERTAINLY TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGER'S PRIORITIES ARE ADMINISTERED IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER. SO OF COURSE OUR PRIORITIES NEXT YEAR WILL BE TO SUPPORT OUR CLIENT IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS NAMELY THE ROAD PROJECTS WHERE THERE IS CONTRACT REVIEW. HOPEFULLY THERE NO BID PROTESTS BUT IF THERE WERE A BID PROTESTS ANY TYPE OF LITIGATION MAKING SURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTS ARE AWARDED PROPERLY. THEY'RE DEFENDED AND THAT WE GET EVERYTHING MOVING ON AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AND WITHOUT ANY ADVERSE COSTS OR RISKS TO THE CITY. AND ALSO SUPPORTING OUR LAND USE DECISIONS. THAT'S A BIG THING THAT WE ANTICIPATE NEXT YEAR AND FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR AS WELL. LAND USE DECISIONS AND ACQUISITIONS OF PROPERTY. THE BUDGET SUMMARY ESSENTIALLY OUR OFFICE THE CHIEF OPERATING BUDGETS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COMPRISE FIVE HUNDRED SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY TWO DOLLARS. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE RISK FUND? THIS IS AARON PARR AND I DID  HAVE ONE QUESTION IF I COULD. YES. IF YOU CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON, MY QUESTION IS I SEE THE INTERNAL ADMINISTRATION EXPENSES 285 AND THEN OUTSIDE COUNSEL  295 WITHIN FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS OF EACH OTHER. I WONDER IF YOU COULD SHED SOME LIGHT TO BRING EVERYONE UP TO SPEED AS TO WHY WE'RE ALMOST SPENDING THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT INTERNALLY WITH SENDING WORK OUT COULD THAT POSSIBLY BE BETTER OR MORE EFFICIENTLY DONE WITH ADDING ONE ADDITIONAL PERSON IN THE IN HOUSE AND DECREASE SENDING OUT WORK. I MEAN WHY IS THERE THAT ALMOST AN EVEN BALANCE BETWEEN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. IT'S NOT COMPLETELY JUST OUTSIDE COUNSEL ALTHOUGH THERE IS ROUGHLY $270,000 THAT WE BUDGET. NOT ALL OF THAT IS ACTUALLY USED. WE DO HAVE A TEAM [00:45:04] THAT IS HIGHLY SKILLED. IF YOU CONSIDER NOW EVEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BUDGET EVEN THOUGH MOST OF ITS TIME I'VE BEEN DOWN STAFF I ONLY HAVE ONE CASE THAT IS BEING HANDLED BY OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND THAT'S THE BOND CASE. MOST OF THE LITIGATION THAT OUR OFFICE HANDLES, OUR ATTORNEYS HANDLE. A LOT OF IT I PERSONALLY HANDLE. IT JUST SOMETIMES WELL THEY'RE GOING TO BE ISSUES ESPECIALLY LABOR,  UNEMPLOYMENT. THERE GONNA BE SPECIALIZED ISSUES THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE. WE DON'T HAVE THE SKILL SET FOR [INAUDIBLE] LITIGATION AND IN THOSE CASES WE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT THERE BUT WE TEND NOT TO ACTUALLY USE ALL OF OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL BUDGET. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR. BUT WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF ACTUALLY MAKING SURE THAT JUST BECAUSE MONEY IS THERE DOES NOT MEAN WE GO OUT AND SEND IT TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHEN WE HAVE THE TIME AND RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE TO HANDLE THE MATTER IN HOUSE. BUT IF IT DOES GO OUTSIDE THE COST IS SIGNIFICANT AND IT'S GOING TO YOU KNOW EASILY USE UP THAT AMOUNT FOR OUTSIDE. IF YOU LOOK AT RANGER CONSTRUCTION I MEAN YOU KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT GOES OUT THAT REQUIRES EXPERTISE IS GOING TO QUICKLY DO THAT. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONTINGENCY PLAN BUT I DON'T YOU JUST WILLY NILLY JUST SEND THINGS OUT FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I  PRIDE ON MYSELF AND MY STAFF AND I HAVE BOTH LITIGATION AND TRANSACTIONAL EXPERIENCE. WE DO DO A LOT OF THINGS IN-HOUSE. WELL I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THAT TO SHED THE LIGHT THAT ULTIMATELY IT'S ALMOST IN A SENSE THEY FUND THAT JUST IN PREPARATION FOR WHAT MIGHT TURN UP AN UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU DO USE THAT SPARINGLY AND I AGAIN I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THAT. I DO. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO UNFORTUNATELY YOUR DEPARTMENT DEALS WITH THE UNFORTUNATE. OK. SO SHOULD SOMETHING COME UP THE TOTAL OUTSIDE COUNSEL OR WHAT YOU'RE ESTIMATING FOR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR IS A WHAT IF SCENARIO AND IN SOME CASES CORRECT? FOR LEGAL, IT  ALWAYS IS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. SO I GUESS. GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS [INAUDIBLE]. I'M THE RISK MANAGER AND I AM GOING TO TRY THIS. HOPEFULLY IT DOESN'T SPEED UP ON ME. THE RISK MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT IS LOCATED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND IS AN ALLOCATION FUND WHICH MEANS DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ALL DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY PAY INTO THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND. THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND IS CLASSIFIED BY TWO DIVISIONS IT'S THE LIABILITY INSURANCE DIVISION AND THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE DIVISION AND THE LIABILITY INSURANCE DIVISION WE ONLY HAVE OPERATING EXPENSES AND IN THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE DIVISION WE HAVE PERSONNEL AND OPERATING EXPENSES. IN THE LIABILITY INSURANCE DIVISION THROUGH THAT FUND WE PAY OUT CLAIMS SUCH AS GENERAL LIABILITY CLAIMS, WORKER'S COMPENSATION CLAIMS, AUTO LIABILITY CLAIMS, AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE CLAIMS AND PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIMS. ALSO THROUGH THAT FUND WE DISPERSE CLAIM MANAGEMENT FEES AND STATE ASSESSMENT FEES. NOW HERE ARE THE NUMBERS. AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIKE PICTURES THE NEXT SLIDE WILL BE A PIE GRAPH. BUT IN THIS FUND WE HAVE OUR CLAIMS MANAGEMENT FEES. NOW THIS THIS BUDGET IS OF COURSE IS NOT A FINAL. THIS IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE. WHAT I DO THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS AS THE YEAR GOES ON BECAUSE THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND IS LIKE A JUST AS SIMILAR TO THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL FUND IT'S A REACTIONARY FUND. SO WE RUN MONTHLY REPORTS TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TRACK WITH WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR THE YEAR. OUR CLAIMS MANAGEMENT FEES. THAT BUDGET IS FIFTY SEVEN THOUSAND EIGHT HUNDRED. I THINK THAT MAY BE HARD TO SEE BUT IF YOU HAVE A HARD COPY YOU'LL SEE IT THERE. WE HAVE TRAVEL AND PER DIEM FOR COURT CASES AT TEN  THOUSAND. WE HAVE OTHER PREMIUMS AT NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIX DOLLARS. NOW THE OTHER PREMIUMS THOSE ARE ALL OF OUR PREMIUMS THAT WE PAY THROUGH TO OUR INSURANCE BROKER THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO PAY FOR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE AUTO LIABILITY INSURANCE WORKER'S COMP INSURANCE CYBER INSURANCE PUBLIC OFFICIALS INSURANCE, SPECIAL EVENT INSURANCE. SO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO PAY IN THE FORM OF A PREMIUM COMES OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM. WORKER'S [00:50:01] COMP BENEFIT PAY AND LIABILITY CLAIMS IS ZERO. WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS. I'M SORRY I SKIPPED ONE LIABILITY CLAIMS IT'S ACTUALLY FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND. THAT'S WHAT WE BUDGET IT IS I THINK TWO THREE FOUR FIVE SIX SIX LINES DOWN. WE BUDGET THAT AT FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND. WE ARE SELF-INSURED FOR OUR LIABILITY AT $200,000 BECAUSE OF SOVEREIGN IMMUNITY LIMITS. SO IT'S TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON. ACTUALLY IT'S THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER CLAIM IN TOTAL BUT TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON. SO WE BUDGET FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN HOPES THAT WE'LL HAVE A GOOD YEAR. BUT IF WE HAVE AN UNFORTUNATE YEAR AT LEAST WE KNOW THAT WE'RE GOOD FOR OUR SELF-INSURED RETENTION PORTION OF TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON. OUR WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS ARE BUDGETED AT $1.375 MILLION ON WORKER'S COMP. WE'RE ALSO SELF-INSURED UP TO THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS PER PERSON. SO IF WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR WE HAVE A GOOD YEAR. IF WE HAVE A BAD YEAR IT COULD BE A REALLY BAD YEAR. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH BUDGETED JUST IN CASE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE JUST IN CASE FUNDS. WE HAVE AUTO LIABILITY CLAIMS THAT $50,000 AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE MAKE SURE I'M READING THAT RIGHT. SEE IT'S HARD TO READ HERE. LET SEE. AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE CLAIMS AT $60,000. PROPERTY DAMAGE CLAIMS AT $40,000. NOW LET ME GO BACK TO THE AUTO PHYSICAL DAMAGE CLAIMS. WE DO HAVE AUTO INSURANCE FOR OUR VEHICLES. BUT IF WE MADE A CLAIM EVERY TIME ONE OF OUR VEHICLES HAD AN INCIDENT OR ACCIDENT OUR PREMIUMS WOULD BE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE NOW. SO A LOT OF THINGS WE HANDLE IN-HOUSE WITHOUT SENDING IT TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY TO GET A CLAIM ON TO OUR POLICY. SO THAT'S WHY WE BUDGET THAT THERE AND THEN AT THE VERY BOTTOM WE HAVE OUR STATE ASSESSMENT FEES AT FIFTY THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS UNTIL WE GET A BILL FROM THE STATE. SO WE JUST BUDGET WORST CASE SCENARIO AND WE HOPE FOR THE BEST. AND AS I SAID FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIKE PICTURES THE RED IS THE WORKER'S COMP LIABILITY CLAIMS. THE GREEN IS LIABILITY CLAIMS AND THEN THE BLUE IS OUR PREMIUMS. THE NEXT DIVISION IS THE CITY ATTORNEY DIVISION AND THESE ARE THE PERSONNEL EXPENSES. WE HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE SALARIES AT THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY FIVE. OUR REGULAR SALARIES AT. OK GOOD. OUR REGULAR SALARIES AT THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY SEVEN TWO FORTY SEVEN. I HAVE A QUESTION. THIS IS ASHELEY HEPBURN ON THE RISK MANAGEMENT BEFORE YOU MOVE AHEAD. OKAY, GO AHEAD. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YES, PLEASE. OKAY. FIRST QUESTION IS DO YOU HAVE [INAUDIBLE] INSURANCE AND THEN WHAT IS THAT LIMIT THAT THE [INAUDIBLE] INSURANCE KICKS IN ON THE LIABILITY. WE ACTUALLY ARE YOU SPEAKING OF REINSURANCE OR EXCESS INSURANCE? WE HAVE EXCESS INSURANCE. THAT'S WHAT WE PAY THE PREMIUMS FOR BECAUSE WE'RE SELF-INSURED UP TO $200,000. ANYTHING OVER THAT. WE DO HAVE A FIVE MILLION DOLLAR GENERAL LIABILITY POLICY THAT ENCOMPASSES OUR AUTO LIABILITY AS WELL SO WE DO HAVE EXCESS INSURANCE. OKAY. THEN THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION IS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR CLAIM EXPERIENCE AND THE LIABILITY SIDE. IS IT AN UPWARD TREND. IS IT STABLE OR IS IT DECLINING IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN STEADY. WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING. WE DO HAVE SOME CLAIMS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PENDING THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN LITIGATION THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY DEFENDING. WE THINK WE DO HAVE GOOD DEFENSES FOR THOSE PARTICULAR CLAIMS BUT IF IT DOES GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE COURT SYSTEM IT'S IN THE HANDS OF A JURY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME MAY BE BUT PRETTY MUCH OVERALL IT'S BEEN AT A STEADY PACE. ALL RIGHT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL GET BACK TO [INAUDIBLE]. OKAY. WE WERE ON THE CITY ATTORNEY  DIVISION ON PERSONNEL EXPENSES. WE HAD I THINK I DID THE EXECUTIVE SALARIES THE REGULAR SALARIES THE SPECIAL PAY AT $2960 AND THEN WE HAVE THE INSURANCE BENEFITS, AUTO ALLOWANCE, SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, RETIREMENT, HEALTH INSURANCE, OTHER EMPLOYEE INSURANCE, WORKER'S COMP, TERMINATION [00:55:02] BENEFITS VACATION PAY OUTS AND SICK PAYOUTS. THAT TOTAL BUDGET IS ONE MILLION ONE HUNDRED AND THIRTY EIGHT THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY SIX. AND ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIKE PICTURES THE SALARIES ARE IN THE YELLOW AND THE DARK BLUE WE HAVE THE EXECUTIVE SALARIES AND THEN IN THE DARK GREEN WE HAVE THE I THINK IT'S HEALTH INSURANCE. I HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION. YES TERMINATION BENEFITS. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY IT'S  LIKE A $50,000 DOLLAR ITEM. RIGHT. JUST CURIOUS. TERMINATION BENEFITS FROM WHAT MY EXPLANATION OF IS MORE OR LESS IF THERE IS AN UNFAVORABLE TERMINATION AND THERE IS SOME TYPE OF SETTLEMENT THAT'S REACHED IT'S PAID OUT OF THAT IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. THEN WE GO TO OUR OPERATING EXPENSES. WE HAVE CONSULTANT SERVICES FIFTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS. WE HAVE TRAVEL AND PER DIEM AT TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. WE HAVE POSTAGE, THE TELECOM AND CELL SERVICES I HAVE THAT AS PENDING BECAUSE THOSE ARE NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T COME UP WITH. I THINK CI&T COMES UP WITH THOSE. SO THEY'LL INPUT THOSE NUMBERS. WE HAVE POSTAGE AT 1000. LIABILITY AND PROPERTY INSURANCE. THAT'S A LINE ITEM THERE BUT IT'S ZERO BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN PUSHED OVER INTO THE LIABILITY INSURANCE DIVISION. SO THAT USED TO BE THERE BUT IT'S BEEN PUSHED OVER TO ANOTHER DIVISION. WE HAVE PRINTING AND BINDING AT $4,000 OFFICE SUPPLIES AT $8600.  WE HAVE COMPUTER SUPPLIES AT TWO THOUSAND. UNIFORMS AND CLOTHING AT ELEVEN HUNDRED. DUES AND MEMBERSHIPS TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND. BOOKS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND. TRAINING AND EDUCATION COSTS AT $48,005 FOR A TOTAL OF ONE NINETY FIVE TWO HUNDRED IN THE OPERATING EXPENSES. BOOKS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS. ARE THOSE GOLD BOUND BOOKS OR WHAT? I HAVE TO ASK. IT INCLUDES BOUND BOOKS BUT IT'S ALSO LEGAL SUBSCRIPTIONS LIKE WEST LAW THAT HELPS US PERFORM LEGAL  SEARCH AND ALSO INCLUDES LIKE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO ONLINE CLES. WE HAVE SOME THAT WE ACTUALLY TRAVEL TO. BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE WEB CLES ALWAYS ALLOWS MORE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM TO WATCH TO THE CLE AND NOT HAVE TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO IT'S NOT JUST, THERE ARE SOME BOOKS BUT IT'S NOT JUST BOOKS. THANK YOU. AND ONCE AGAIN THE PHOTO WE HAVE THE IN THE PURPLE WE HAVE THE BOOKS AND SUBSCRIPTIONS AND THEN IN THE DARK BLUE, LET'S SEE, I THINK THAT IS TRAINING AND EDUCATION COSTS. OUR BUDGET SUMMARY THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND IS COMPRISED OF COURSE TWO SEPARATE FUNDS WITH A TOTAL OPERATING BUDGET OF FOUR MILLION FOUR HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED FIFTY TWO. THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND HAS AN FTE OF TEN AND I'LL SHOW YOU OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART ON THE NEXT SLIDE OR THE SLIDE AFTER THAT. WE DO NOT COLLECT ANY REVENUES AND THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND WE DO HOWEVER ASSIST DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN RECOVERY LIKE IF SOMEONE GOES OUT AND HITS ONE OF OUR FIRE HYDRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WE DO PART  OF MY JOB IS TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND GO AFTER THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY DAMAGED THE FIRE HYDRANT OR DAMAGE ONE OF OUR SIGNS. SO ONCE WE RECOVER THOSE FUNDS THEY GO BACK TO THE DEPARTMENT IT DOES NOT STAY WITHIN THE RISK MANAGEMENT FUND. OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WE HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY WE HAVE THREE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEYS WE HAVE AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WE HAVE THE RISK MANAGER MYSELF AND THEN WE HAVE A PARALEGAL. UNDER THE PARALEGAL WE HAVE TWO FULL TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS, ONE PART TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT UNDER MYSELF I HAVE A SAFETY AND SECURITY COORDINATOR AND THEN WE HAVE A WORKER'S COMP ADJUSTER. OUR RISK MANAGEMENT MY RISK MANAGEMENT GOAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2020 IS TO BE MORE PROACTIVE. BEING A MORE PROACTIVE RESOURCE FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO AID IN THE IDENTIFICATION OF POTENTIAL RISK AND DEVELOP EFFICIENT WAYS TO MANAGE AND FINANCE THE RISK. LIKE I SAID MY FUND IS A REACTIONARY FUND SO IF WE CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE ON THE SAFETY AND SECURITY SIDE TO GET MORE TRAINING THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY SEE A TREND WHERE WE'RE DECLINING AND THEN WE CAN START CUTTING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS BACK IN. BUT WE ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROPERLY YOU KNOW THERE BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT WE HAVE A BAD YEAR WE CAN REALLY HAVE A BAD YEAR AND WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT THE CITY IN THAT POSITION. ANY QUESTIONS? DO YOU PERCEIVE THAT MORE TRAINING WOULD SOMEHOW PROVIDE A REDUCED EXPENSE OF SOME SORT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE IMPLYING. I AM HOPING THAT THE MORE WE CAN TRAIN  [01:00:01] ESPECIALLY ON THE SAFETY SIDE THAT ENCOMPASSES LIKE DECREASING WORKERS COMP CLAIMS. YOU KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS YOU CAN PREVENT BUT THERE ARE ALSO SO MANY THINGS YOU CAN'T PREVENT. BUT IF WE DO MORE TRAINING WITH THE EMPLOYEES ON THE  SAFETY SIDE HOPEFULLY WE CAN SEE A DOWNWARD DECLINE IN OUR WORKER'S COMP CLAIMS. WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HOW YOU WOULD PROPOSE THAT TO COME ABOUT. I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE THAT. WELL LAST YEAR TOWARDS THE END OF FISCAL YEAR LAST YEAR WE ADDED THE POSITION OF THE SAFETY AND SECURITY COORDINATOR AND THAT PERSON'S SOLE JOB IS TO GO OUT THERE AND WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS ON THE SAFETY. SO I THINK WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BY ADDING THAT POSITION. I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW THAT POSITION HAS HELPED OUR SITUATION. I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT  PROGRESSES, PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE SHE WALKS AWAY? AARON? OK. I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW. NEXT. IS THERE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO STAND. YES. HERE COMES MS. YVONNE.  OUR FAVORITE PERSON. NOT JUST. I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. SHE'S ONE OF OUR REGULAR REGULARS HERE. RIGHT. [LAUGHTER] THANK YOU MS. YVONNE. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. I'M. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS YOU DON'T HEAR THAT MUCH ABOUT. WE'RE A SERVICE DEPARTMENT. SO OUR MISSION BASICALLY IS TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL AND FISCAL SUPPORT TO THE CITY MANAGERS, THE CITY DEPARTMENT, CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS OUR CUSTOMERS DEPENDS ON WHICH AREA OF OUR DEPARTMENT. FINANCE CURRENTLY IS MADE UP OF THREE DIVISIONS WE HAVE ADMINISTRATION, ACCOUNTING AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR REVENUE DIVISION. WE HAD PAYROLL ALSO UP UNTIL ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IT WAS MOVED OUT FROM US BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO MOVE THAT BACK UNDER FINANCE THIS YEAR WE THINK IT PROBABLY SHOULD BE BACK UNDER  FINANCE. SO WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING IT FROM H.R. THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR. IN OUR ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT WE HAVE FIVE FULL TIME EMPLOYEES. IN ACCOUNTING WE HAVE SIX AND REVENUE WE HAVE FIVE. OUR CORE SERVICES INCLUDE OVERSIGHT OF THE CITY'S FINANCES THE DEBT AND THE BUDGET. RIGHT NOW WE MANAGE ABOUT ABOUT  ONE HUNDRED SIXTEEN MILLION DOLLARS OF CITY FUNDS WHICH IS ACROSS ALL DIFFERENT FUNDS IN THE CITY. WE ALSO THERE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR ANY [INAUDIBLE] ONCE  COUNCIL OR CITY MANAGER BASICALLY THE COUNCIL HAS DECIDED THAT OK WE'RE GOING TO GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY THAT WE COME INTO PLAY THERE ALSO WE WORK WITH VARIOUS PARTIES. WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SPENDING IS DONE PROPERLY THAT MAKES US NOT SOMETIME NOT ONE OF THE FAVORITE DEPARTMENTS FOR SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE WE ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE SPENT ACCORDINGLY WHERE THEY'RE BUDGETED AND IF THEY'RE NOT BUDGETED, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT GOES BACK THE COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE THINGS ARE DONE PROPERLY. ANOTHER THING WE DO IS IN OUR ACCOUNTING AREA IS THE MAINTAINING ACCURATE AND RELIABLE ACCOUNTING RECORDS AND REPORTING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE AS WELL AS WE DO MONTHLY REPORTING TO THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL. AND WE HAVE TO DO OF COURSE THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL REPORT EACH YEAR. ANOTHER AREA WE DO IN OUR REVENUE AREA WHICH IS DOWNSTAIRS IN OUR LOBBY IN THE CITY HALL ANNEX IS BILLING AND COLLECTIONS. WE HAVE THERE WE DO BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS WHERE WE ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENCE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN COMING IN AND OPENING A NEW BUSINESS AND MAINTAINING THEIR LICENSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE ALSO DO PASSPORT ACCEPTANCE DOWN THERE AND ALSO FALSE ALARMS AND THEN JUST CASH RECEIPT PROCESSING SOME DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN AREAS THAT DO CASH RECEIPT PROCESSING BUT SMALLER DEPARTMENTS SAY LIKE H.R. WHEN THEY GET A CHECK IN OR SOMETHING THEY'LL BRING IT OVER AND WE MAKE SURE IT GETS PROCESSED AND UPDATED AND GOES TO THE CORRECT DEPARTMENT. LET'S SEE. THEN WE HAVE OTHER ASSIGNMENTS THAT KIND OF GET BESTOWED UPON US AS WE GO THROUGH. ONE HAS BEEN, WE HAVE A 501  3 C THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION NOW. SO THERE HAS KIND OF FALLEN UPON FINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FILE OUT. WE HAVE TO FILE WITH THE IRS AND MAKE SURE WE KEEPING TRACK OF ONCE THEY AWARD FUNDING OUT TO DIFFERENT RECIPIENTS THE [INAUDIBLE] GOES [01:05:01] TO THE RIGHT PLACE TO KEEP TRACK OF THOSE. FEMA SUBMISSIONS. ALSO THE LAST TWO YEARS COUPLE OF YEARS WE HAD FEMA TO HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IN PREVIOUS YEARS WHEN WE HAD THE FEMA. I MEAN WHEN WE HAD HURRICANES WE HAD THREE CANES BACK TO BACK. THE CITY BACK THEN HAD A DEDICATED PERSON TO DO THAT. WE DON'T DO THAT. THIS  YEAR WE HAD TO FIND A BODY AND KIND OF,  THAT WAS ANGELICA WHO YOU MET. AND SO SHE'S BEEN A LEAD ON THAT AND SHE'S LEARNED AS WE GO THROUGH SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THE REST OF OUR FUNDING BACK FROM FEMA FOR THE LAST HURRICANE. AND THEN OF COURSE I NOW HAVE THIS, YOUR BOARD,  SO WE WORK WITH YOU GUYS. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY. AND HAVE I MENTIONED HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOU YVONNE. THANK YOU. WHAT A GREAT JOB YOU DO. I TRULY TRULY THANK YOU. OK. SO AS FAR AS BUDGETING PRIORITIES, NORMALLY FINANCE LIKE I SAY WE USUALLY DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF REQUESTS SO WE'RE JUST KIND OF SIT AT THE TABLE AND WATCH EVERYBODY ELSE REQUESTS. BUT THIS YEAR I AM GOING TO BE MAKING A REQUEST. IT INVOLVES STAFFING FOR THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. LIKE I SAID I LOOK I TOOK THE LIBERTY TO LOOK BACK AND OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS AT THAT POINT WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY INCREASE IN FINANCE AND ACCOUNTING OVER THE LAST EIGHT YEARS. WE HAD DURING THE DOWNTURN WE ACTUALLY GOT RID OF ONE POSITION AND A COUPLE YEARS BACK WE GOT A REPLACEMENT. [INAUDIBLE]. AND WHAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE IS WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHEN IT COMES TO ANYTHING FINANCES KEEPING TRACK. IT STILL COMES BACK TO FINANCE ALSO. SO IT'S PLACING MORE RESPONSIBILITIES ON US. WHAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO ADJUST FOR THINGS AND I THINK WE'VE DONE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECLASSIFY THE POSITIONS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT WHEN SOMEBODY LEFT, WE HAD A LONG TERM EMPLOYEE LEFT. THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR IT WE WERE KIND OF RE SHUFFLED THINGS AROUND AND MAYBE GIVE SOMEBODY A SMALL INCREASE AND SAY HERE DO MORE DUTIES AND THAT HAS WORKED. BUT I THINK IT'S THE CITY WE'RE IN THE UPSIDE OF THE ECONOMY NOW. WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO THIS, THE BOND ISSUE FOR THE ROAD, ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ARE COMING IN SO IT'S GONNA COME BACK ON FINANCE ALSO. AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ACTUALLY DO THE WORK. ONE THING WE ALSO DID AND WE TOOK OVER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FALSE ALARMS SO WE MOVED THAT INTO THE FINANCE. THEY HAD ONE AND A HALF POSITIONS AT THE TIME DOING THAT. WHAT WE DID IS WE KEPT ONE POSITION AND THEN RESHUFFLED SOME OF OUR STAFF SO THEY ALSO WERE CROSS TRAINING HELP THAT ALSO WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO REDUCE A HALF FTE WHEN WE ASSUME THAT RESPONSIBILITY. AND NOW I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SAY I'D LIKE TO HAVE A ONE OR TWO ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT I WANTED TO ALSO KIND OF POINT OUT THE IMPACT. OF OUR OF THINGS WE'RE SEEING HAPPENING THAT IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING AT SOME POINT IT IS GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CITIES. FIRST OF ALL LIKE OUR ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENT REPORTING REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE CERTAIN DEADLINES WE HAVE TO MEET WE FIND NOW THAT OUR MONTHLY CLOSEOUT HAS TAKEN US A LITTLE LONG. WE USED TO HAVE A GOAL OF TRYING TO DO WITHIN 10 DAYS AFTER EACH THE FOLLOWING MONTH. THAT IS NOT HAPPENING. WE HAVE A GFOA CERTIFICATION WE HAVE TO SUBMIT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SUBMIT THAT BY THE END OF MARCH EACH YEAR. WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN THIS YEAR. WE GO BACK AND THEY OF COURSE  GRANT US AN EXTENSION AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND WE WILL HAVE IT DONE IN TIME TO CONTINUE TO GET OUR CERTIFICATION. BUT THESE ARE THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S ALSO JUST BECOMING A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP WITH ROUTINE DAILY DUTIES AND STUFF.  A LOT OF TIME I HAVE STAFF, THEY'LL SAY I CAN'T EVEN GET TO IT AND STUFF. AND SO I HEAR THESE THINGS AND SO I'M AWARE OF THEM. WE HAVE LACK OF TIME, YOU KNOW DOCUMENT THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DOCUMENT AND DO CROSS TRAINING. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO FUNCTION LIKE THIS YOU CAN KEEP IT UP WITH SO LONG. THEN EVENTUALLY WE DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH TURNOVER IN CERTAIN KEY POSITIONS LIKE IN OUR ACCOUNTING AREA AS WELL AS THAT BUDGET. THIS YEAR WE HAVE ONE DEDICATED BUDGET PERSON WHO THIS WILL BE HER FIRST TIME DOING THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO ANGELICA AND I WILL PITCH IN TO TRY AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING KEEPS GOING ON THAT SENSE. ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO REALLY BE [01:10:07] CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE LOSS OF KNOWLEDGE AND HISTORY HISTORIC INFORMATION OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY [INAUDIBLE] ITS FINANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I'VE BEEN HERE 39 YEARS AND I'M GONNA BE OUT IN ANOTHER 18 MONTHS BASICALLY. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE STAFF THAT ALSO CAN CROSS TRAIN AND CONTINUE TO CARRY ON BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALIZE THERE'S A PROBLEM UNTIL THERE'S A PROBLEM AS LONG AS WE DO EVERYTHING AND GET EVERYTHING DONE IT'S FINE. BUT THE MOMENT WE MISS A DEADLINE OR SOMETHING HITS THE NEWS THEN IT'S GOING TO BE IT LOOKS BAD ON THE CITY NOT JUST THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE THIS CONCERN ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT JUST LIKE WE KEEP TRACK OF THINGS LIKE POLICE  OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AT SOME POINT NOW IT'S TIME WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, SMALLER DEPARTMENTS THAT PLAY AN INSTRUMENTAL PART IN THE ORGANIZATION. NOW FOR AS I DON'T EXPECT ANY MAJOR OPERATING CHANGES IT CHANGES IN THE OPERATING MAXIM THINGS LIKE COPIER CALLS THESE ARE POSTED THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. SO THEY'LL JUST GO UP AND BE INCLUDED AND IT'S GONNA BE MINIMAL ANYWAY. WE LET THIS YEAR WE DID REQUEST FUNDING FOR ONE TIME FUNDING OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOCATION STUDY. AND WHAT  THIS DOES IS WE BROUGHT IN AN OUTSIDE PERSON TO COME IN AND DO A STUDY OF HOW SERVICES LIKE THE CITY FINANCE THE CITY MANAGER. CERTAIN THAT WHERE WE DO SERVICE FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'LL COME BACK AND COME UP WITH THE ALLOCATION AS TO HOW MUCH THAT THEY CHARGE UTILITIES. YOU'RE BUILDING SOME OF YOUR NON GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENT AND THAT MONEY COMES BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP OFFSET GENERAL FUND COSTS BECAUSE MOST OF US ARE ALL PAID OUT OF GENERAL FUND. YOU UNDERSTAND? I'M SORRY. I HAVE NO IDEA. RIGHT SO WE DID. [INAUDIBLE] WE DID THE FORMER CITY MANAGER DID GRANT US THAT IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET IT WAS THIRTEEN THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED JUST TO HAVE THEM COME IN AND DO THE STUDY. THEY HAVEN'T COMPLETED IT YET. SO WE'LL KNOW FOR THIS YEAR. SO TELL ME WHAT THAT IS AGAIN. I APOLOGIZE. DOES EVERYBODY ELSE UNDERSTAND OR TRACI CAN YOU SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. I DO APOLOGIZE. IT'S CALLED AN ADMINISTRATIVE ALLOCATION. YOU HAVE CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE, PROCUREMENT, WE ARE A SERVICE DEPARTMENT. WE PROVIDE SERVICES FOR ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THAT INCLUDES CERTAIN SPECIAL CERTAIN FUNDS LIKE THE UTILITY FUND, THE BUILDING FUND, STORM WATER FUND. THESE ARE NOT GENERAL FUND BUT YET WE DO THE PAY ROLL FOR THEM WE DO THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE FOR THEM. SO THEY CALCULATE A WAY TO CHARGE BACK A PORTION [INAUDIBLE] GOTCHA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU OK. AND SO ALSO IF WE'RE GIVEN ADDITIONAL STAFFING TO WORK IN ADDITION TO THE SALARY WILL HAPPEN HAVE COMPUTERS AND MAYBE SOME FURNISHING AND MOST LIKELY SOME TRAINING. THERE'S ONE THING YOU SHOULD BE AWARE OF. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET ACCOUNTING TYPE FINANCE TYPE PEOPLE TO COME IN BECAUSE MOST IF THEY ARE EXPERIENCED THEY WORK WITH THE CITY AND A LOT OF CITIES HAVE FULL RETIREMENT PLANS, STATE FUNDED PLAN. SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO RECRUIT THEM FROM THEM. SO I USUALLY HAVE TO GO OUT AND GET SOMEBODY MAYBE FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO DON'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. SO WE SPEND   A YEAR TO GET TRYING TO GET THEM UP TO SPEED. ONLY TO LIKE I SAID IN SOME CASES LIKE OUR ACCOUNTANTS SEE THEM MOVE ON TO EITHER DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OR TO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY OR BACK TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR. SO IT'S A REVOLVING DOOR WITH THAT. SO DO YOU NEED ONE  FULL TIME EMPLOYEE ADDITION OR TWO BECAUSE.  I WILL BE  REQUESTING TWO WHETHER WE GET THAT. I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE LIKE I SAID WE HAVE A ACCOUNTANT AND WE HAVE ADMINISTRATOR. THANK YOU. OK. NOW I WANT JUST LOOK AT OUR FINANCE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. I WANT TO POINT OUT IN OUR REVENUE DIVISION THEY LOOKED AT LAST YEAR. THEY BROUGHT IN A APPROXIMATE 800, EXACTLY EIGHT HUNDRED AND SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO LIKE I SAID THEY PROCESS BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS, THE PASSPORTS ALL OF THIS BROUGHT IN ADDITIONAL FUNDING INTO THE GENERAL FUND. SO BASICALLY I THINK WE'RE ABOUT ONE OF THREE DEPARTMENTS TO ACTUALLY BRING IN ANY TYPE OF REVENUE BASED ON THE SERVICES PROVIDED. AN INTERESTING THING I THOUGHT I LOOKED AT I SAY THAT ACTUALLY TOOK TWICE WHAT IT COSTS TO OPERATE THE REVENUE DIVISION LAST YEAR. AND IT'S ALMOST 60 PERCENT OF FINANCE AS A WHOLE OPERATING [01:15:03] COST LAST YEAR. SO DID WE MENTION HOW AWESOME YOU WERE YVONNE? WELL IT'S MY TEAM, NOT ME.  AND [INAUDIBLE] IS LOOKING AT OUR BUDGET WE HAVE A FINANCE HAS A BUDGET OF $1.5 MILLION. $1.3 MILLION OR NINETY TWO PERCENT OF THAT IS TIED TO PERSONNEL. SALARIES AND FRINGE BENEFITS. 50 PERCENT OF OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT FTES ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AT LEAST A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN FINANCE ACCOUNTING AND BUSINESS. SO THAT EXPLAINS WHY SALARY TAKES UP SO MUCH ALONG WITH THE BENEFITS AND FINANCE. ANOTHER SEVENTY SEVEN THOUSAND OR FIVE PERCENT IS BUDGETED FOR OUTSIDE SERVICES USED  CITYWIDE. LIKE INVESTMENT SERVICES. TAX BILLING, AUDIT SERVICES, LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT,  THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO INCUR. AND LET'S JUST ONLY ABOUT $45,000 OR ABOUT 3 PERCENT IS BUDGETED FOR OPERATING, TRAINING AND EDUCATION OVER THE THREE DIVISIONS AND 5 OR 31 PERCENT OF OUR STAFF HAVE CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN SUCH AS CPE, [INAUDIBLE] AS WELL AS BEING A CERTIFIED PUBLIC ACCOUNTANT. SO THAT KIND OF WRAPS UP THE GENERAL FUND. I WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE DEBT FUND THAT IS A SEPARATE FUND ALTHOUGH A GREAT PORTION OF THE DEBT FUND IS FUNDED BY THE GENERAL FUND IS ACTUALLY DONE AS TRANSFERS INTO THE DEBT FUND. ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES BORROWING A DEBT ISSUANCE WE HAVE TO THEN GET INVOLVED IN THE SOLICITATION PORTION, AWARDING OF THE CONTRACT, THE COUNTY FOR THE BANK LOANS, LEASE PURCHASE, MUNICIPAL BONDS. WE WORK WITH OUTSIDE PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS THE BANKS MUNICIPAL ADVISOR BOND COUNSELING RATING AGENCIES. WE INVEST AVAILABLE FUNDS AND BOND PROCEEDS. SO ONCE WE GO OUT AND GET A BOND GET IT FINANCED. YOU DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY RIGHT AWAY. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IS MAINTAINED SEPARATELY, IS ACCOUNTED FOR AND TRACKED. AND AT THIS POINT WRITTEN I HAVE ONE PERSON WHO KIND OF PRIMARILY DOES THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET ANOTHER PERSON CROSS TRAINED BUT THAT HASN'T WORKED AT THIS POINT BECAUSE SHE'S DOING OTHER THINGS. WE SHOULD, OUR DEBT PAYMENTS ARE MADE ON TIME BECAUSE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IF THESE PEOPLE DON'T LOAN YOU MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THEIR PAYMENTS EVEN WHEN WE WERE HAVING THE HURRICANE SEASON WE WOULD GET CALLS FROM  PAYING AGENTS, JUST SAYING OH HOW YA DOING DOWN THERE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR PAYMENTS GONNA BE MADE ON TIME. OTHER THINGS THAT'S INVOLVED WITH LIKE THE BOND WHEN YOU ISSUE BONDS YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF POST ISSUANCE COMPLIANCE. ARBITRAGE REBATE COMPLIANCE CONTINUING DISCLOSURE AND ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE. SO EVEN THOUGH YOU GO OUT AND BORROW MONEY AND EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT MAY BE DONE IT COULD TAKE US 10, 15, 20 YEARS TO GET THIS OUT OF FINANCES REALM OF RESPONSIBILITY. WE ALSO LOOK FOR REFUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. THAT'S LIKE WHEN WE ISSUED DEBT AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE WHEN WE GET TO THE PORTION I'LL SHOW YOU THE DIFFERENT DEBTS WE HAVE. YOU'LL SEE MOST OF MY PRETTY RECENT WHAT WE DID WAS WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE LOWER INTEREST RATE THAT WAS IN THE MARKET AND STUFF. SO WE DID  REFINANCING AND THAT SAVED THE CITY LOTS OF MONEY OVER THE REMAIN LIFE OF OF THE BONDS AND STUFF. CITY  WIDE DEBT. THIS, I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU AS THIS FISCAL YEAR THE CITY HAS A TOTAL DEBT OBLIGATION OF TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN MILLION DOLLARS. ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY EIGHT MILLION IS GENERAL GOVERNMENTAL DEBT. THAT'S DEBT THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAID FROM REVENUES, GENERAL REVENUES WHETHER THAT'S OUR UTILITY TAXES OR FRANCHISE FEES,  THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO USE THAT MONEY TO PAY OFF THESE DEBTS OVER TIME. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE ARE EXPECTING  ANOTHER [INAUDIBLE] GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT. THIS WON'T COME OUT OF OUR REGULAR OPERATING REVENUES THIS COMING THIS IS GOING TO WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE APPROVED TO COME OUT OF THEIR TAX,  THEY'RE GOING TO PAY OVER AND ABOVE THE REGULAR TAXES ON IT. SO BASIC WE'RE GOING TO BE DOUBLING OUR GENERAL TYPE DEBT. THE [01:20:02] NEXT SLIDE GIVES YOU A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY IN DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS THIS FISCAL YEAR. THE TOTAL IS 8.2 MILLION DOLLARS. $1.2 MILLION OF THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PAID OUT OF THE IMPACT FEE FUNDS. THOSE ARE THE THREE THAT I HAVE AN ASTERISK BY THAT TOLD US ABOUT $1.3 MILLION THAT'S FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] GAS TAX [INAUDIBLE] 2014.  COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT BONDS, THE IMPACT FEE PORTION AND THEN THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX 2018. SO THE $7 MILLION THAT WE ARE PAYING ISSUE OUT OF  GENERAL FUND. THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE SAY ARE PRIORITIES. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHOICE ABOUT THAT THEY COME OFF THE TOP. FIRST AND FOREMOST. IF IN THE EVENT THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE FUNDS AREN'T THERE THEN THAT'S GOING TO GO UP ABOUT 1.3  MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. SO ALL OF THESE THINGS LIKE AS I WAS TRYING TO POINT OUT LAST WEEK LAST MONTH COMES OFF OF THE  GENERAL FUND. OK AND MY LAST SLIDE I WANTED HAS TO DO WITH THE PENSION TRUST. AND AS I POINTED OUT LAST MONTH THE PENSION FUND IS ADMINISTERED BY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BODY FROM US WHAT WE DO IS MAKE SURE THAT THE PAYMENTS ARE REMITTED TO THEM ON A MONTHLY BASIS. THEY WILL NOTIFY US IN APRIL WHAT THEY'RE ACTUARY, BASED ON THEIR ACTUARIES SAY WE NEED TO PUT INTO THE PLAN. THEY ESTIMATE WHAT THEY THINK WHAT'S COMING FROM THE STATE AND WHAT'S COMING FROM THE CITY. BUT BASED ON WHAT THEY COME UP THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT YEAR THE CITY MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT THE CITY IS PAID IN OVER THE LAST THREE FISCAL YEARS ACTUAL PAYMENTS AND WHAT WE'RE BUDGETED TO PAY IN RIGHT NOW IS $4.4 MILLION. THAT AGAIN IS ONE OF YOUR NUMBER ONE ITEMS THAT [INAUDIBLE] THAT COMES OFF THE TOP. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT BECAUSE OF SOME NEGOTIATIONS THAT THE UNIONS MADE WITH CITY THEY DID DECREASE WHAT WE HAD TO CONTRIBUTE IN 2017 AND 2018. POLICE CONTRIBUTED AN EXTRA EIGHTY TWO THOUSAND AND FIVE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND AND IN 2018 WE GOT AN EXTRA HUNDRED THIRTY SIX THOUSAND FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THESE ARE STATE MONEYS THAT THEY AGREE THAT IS PART OF THE AGREEMENT THEY WORKED OUT THAT WE COULD USE THAT OFFSET WHAT THE CITY HAD PUT US IN. SO AGAIN THAT'S ANOTHER 4.4  MILLION DOLLARS. SO THAT'S WHY WE SAY IT'S REALLY INTERESTING WHEN YOU SIT THERE AND WATCH THIS YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE. AND THEN WHEN YOU START CARVING OUT THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO TAKE AND THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHY AREN'T YOU FUNDING THIS. BUT THE CITY HAS CERTAIN OBLIGATIONS. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO FUND. ANYWAY. AND THAT'S IN FROM FINANCE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS AARON? I'M GOOD.  SO, YVONNE I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU JUST SHARED WITH US. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING. SO THE NEW BOND THE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLAR BOND. IT'S GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY AN ADDITION TO THE NUMBER YOU SHOWED US THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO RIGHT NOW. WE GOT LIKE 200 JUST TO ROUND UP NUMBERS. TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTEEN MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN OUTSTANDING OBLIGATIONS CURRENTLY BASED ON THAT NUMBER, CORRECT? ALL RIGHT. SORRY, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTEEN MILLION DOLLARS. CORRECT? ARE YOU ADDING IT TO JUST THE GENERAL? YOU'VE GOT TOTAL CITY DEBT AS TOTAL DEBT OF TWO HUNDRED AND SIXTEEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED FIFTY SIX. RIGHT. RIGHT. REMEMBER THE BCIS SOLID WASTE AND UTILITIES, THOSE ARE OTHER FUNDS THEY SUPPORT THEIR OWN DEBT. THAT'S WHY I WAS  FOCUSING ONE POINT THE HUNDRED AND  FIFTY EIGHT THAT'S GENERAL OBLIGATION. THAT IS MONEY, THAT'S DEBT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE PAID FROM OUR GENERAL REVENUE SOURCES. OK. OK. SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME THEN IS WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUND NUMBERS $159 PLUS ANOTHER $150 MILLION. RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR. RIGHT. BUT THE OTHER JUST THE GENERAL OBLIGATION IS GOING TO COME FROM DEDICATED AD VELOREM TAXES THAT THE TAXPAYERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO PAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED YOU TO REITERATE. THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO TO. RIGHT. SO WE'LL LOOK AT ONCE WE KNOW WHAT THE ANNUAL DEBT PAYMENT IS EACH YEAR WE'LL DIVIDE THAT BASED ON THE ACESSED VALUE OF EACH PROPERTY SO THAT EACH PERSON WILL PAY THEIR PROPORTIONATE SHARE WHATEVER HAS TO BE PAID THAT FISCAL YEAR. THANK YOU YVONNE. I APPRECIATE YOU [01:25:03] REITERATING THAT FOR ME AND FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?  AND AGAIN, THANK YOU YVONNE FOR ALL THAT YOU DO AND THE MANY YEARS THAT YOU'VE DONE IT HERE IN THE CITY. WHO'S NEXT? [INAUDIBLE] AARON, SORRY YOU DON'T GET A HANDOUT BUT IF YOU WANT WE'LL HOLD ONE FOR YOU. ANYBODY THAT'S NOT HERE IF YOU WANTED WE CAN CERTAINLY GET IT TO YOU. I'M FRED POPPE. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION. I GUESS WE'RE THE FIRST OPERATING DEPARTMENT THAT YOU GET TO TALK TO TODAY. OBVIOUSLY THE DEPARTMENTS IN FRONT OF US AND THE REST OF THE SUPPORT DEPARTMENTS ARE GOING TO BE LISTENING TO IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO HELP US IN WHAT WE DO. SO I'M GONNA GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT OUR FUNCTION IS. WE'RE DIVIDED INTO THREE MAJOR DIVISIONS. ADMINISTRATIVE, \RECREATION AND PARKS. THE ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION IS BASICALLY WE OVERSEE ALL THE DIVISIONS. WE PROVIDE BUDGETARY ACCOUNTING PROCUREMENT MARKETING. AND WE ALSO ARE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONTRACTS. AND YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THOSE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT LATER. AND WE OVERSEE DIFFERENT LEASES AND CONTRACTS OF THAT SORT. UNDER THE RECREATION DIVISION WE HAVE A PALM BAY AQUATIC CENTER WHICH PROVIDES ALL KINDS OF SEASONAL ACTIVITIES, SWIM LESSONS, LIFEGUARD, CERTIFICATIONS AND WE PROVIDE, IN A= ADDITION TO OPEN SWIMMING, THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF SWIM TEAM ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE THROUGH TWO PRIVATE SWIM TEAMS AND THEN THERE'S ALSO FOUR SCHOOLS THAT HAVE SWIM TEAMS THAT UTILIZE THE FACILITY. TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY IS MY OPINION IS THE  GEM OF THE CITY. SOMETIMES VERY NOT WELL KNOWN BUT WE GET VISITATION FROM THROUGHOUT THE WORLD THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIKING, WALKING. WE HAVE A NATURE CENTER THERE SO WE DO A LOT OF NATURE TOURS THAT THEY'RE LED BY THE RANGERS AND ALSO WE HAVE A HUGE VOLUNTEER BASE THERE THAT HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. WE HAVE TWO COMMUNITY CENTERS TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER. THEY PROVIDE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND THEY'RE ALSO THE HUB FOR OTHER RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS WE HAVE AT OTHER  AREAS. THEY PROVIDE THE SUPERVISION OVER VARIOUS LEAGUES AND OTHER OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES. PARKS MAINTENANCE IS THE THIRD DIVISION. AND THE OBVIOUS THING THAT THEY DO IS THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. 33 DIFFERENT PARKS VARIOUS SIZES. AND ALSO THEY PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE SOME OF THE CONTRACTUAL ORGANIZATIONS WE WORK WITH AND WE'LL GET MORE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. AND ANOTHER MAJOR FUNCTION THEY HAVE IS SUPPORT OF SPECIAL EVENTS WHICH WE DO LOTS OF AND ALSO SUPPORT OTHER CITYWIDE FUNCTIONS. THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE HAVE LIKE AN EMPLOYEE CHRISTMAS PARTY OR THERE MAY BE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A FUNCTION AND WE SUPPORT THEM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY. AND THEN THE REGIONAL PARK IS THAT 200 ACRE FACILITY HAS A WIDE VARIETY OF BALL FIELDS, OUTDOOR COURTS, DOG PARK, HOUSES THE  TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER AND IT'S WE'VE USED IT AS A VENUE FOR SOME OF OUR LARGER EVENTS LIKE THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA AND SOME OTHER HOLIDAY TYPE EVENTS. AND IT IS GOING TO BE THE FUTURE HOME OF THE CAMP GROUNDS THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT. 2018 ACCOMPLISHMENTS FIRST AND FOREMOST. WE RECEIVED 1.7 MILLION DOLLAR TC GRANT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CAMPGROUNDS AT THE REGIONAL PARK. SECOND ITEM IS A TURKEY CREEK. WE HAD TWO HURRICANES THAT [01:30:03] REALLY DEVASTATED THAT AREA AND WE  RECEIVED A LOT OF HELP FROM CAREER SOURCE WHERE THEY CAME AND HELPED US WITH STORM CLEANUP WHICH WAS UNBELIEVABLE JOB. THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THAT HAD TO BE MOVED OUT OF THERE AND ALSO IN THIS PAST YEAR THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP US WITH MANPOWER TO MAKE REPAIRS TO THE BOARDWALKS. WE HAD ESTIMATES UPWARDS TO A MILLION DOLLARS OF WHAT THESE REPAIRS WOULD COST HAD WE CONTRACTED THEM OUT. WE WERE FORTUNATE THEY PROVIDED LABOR. OUR ESTIMATE WAS ABOUT 400 THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF LABOR THAT THEY PROVIDED AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET FUNDING FROM BOTH CITY AND DONATIONS FOR THE MATERIALS TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS AND WERE VERY SIGNIFICANT IN FACT WE HAD A NICE NEWSPAPER ARTICLE A WEEK OR SO AGO THAT IDENTIFIED THAT. AND WHAT A SUCCESS STORY THAT WAS BETWEEN CITY AND CAREER SOURCE AND THE AND THE OUTSIDE SOURCES THAT WE HAD FOR FUNDING. WE PROVIDE A LOT OF HOLIDAY EVENTS SUCH AS INDEPENDENCE DAY, THE LIGHT PARADE, CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, FALL FEST AND OTHERS. WE'RE ALSO INVOLVED A LOT OF TIMES IN COSPONSORING WITH  OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE EVENTS AND THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY. MOST OF THOSE WERE THINGS LIKE THE LATIN FEST, [INAUDIBLE], BLACK HISTORY MONTH. WE DID A JOB FAIR WITH CAREER SOURCE WHERE  THEY TARGETED VETERANS TO FIND THEM EMPLOYMENT AND WE DID A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH WITH AUTISM GROUPS TO NOT ONLY GIVE AWARENESS BUT ALSO HELP THEM WITH WITH SOME INSTRUCTIONAL THINGS FOR PARENTS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE INTERESTED. WE ALSO HAD A WOUNDED WARRIORS EVENT WHERE IT WAS AN VETERANS THAT CAME AND THEY PLAYED SOFTBALL AND THEY PLAYED AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT TEAMS WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. WE SUPPORT 15 COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND WHAT THOSE ARE THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS AND ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. AND OUR OBLIGATION TO THEM IS MAINLY PROVIDING FACILITIES AND ANY LOGISTICAL SUPPORT THEY MAY NEED FROM US. THEY'RE MAINLY YOUTH GROUP ORGANIZATIONS WHERE PARENTS AS VOLUNTEERS. IT'S THINGS LIKE LITTLE LEAGUE SOCCER BASKETBALL SPORTS ORIENTED. WE ALSO HAVE A SENIOR CENTER AND THAT'S ALL VOLUNTEERS AND THEY GENERATE IN EXCESS OF EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR TO HELP OPERATE THAT AND PROVIDE ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS FOR SENIORS. WE ALSO PROVIDED SOME FREE THINGS, MOVIES IN THE PARK,  MUSIC IN THE PARK. WE DO A FIRST FRIDAY OF THE MONTH AND THOSE ARE ALL, WE KEEP THEM ALL FREE TO THE PUBLIC. SO FAMILIES CAN COME OUT AND HAVE SOME ENTERTAINMENT. AND WE ALSO SUPPORTED NUMEROUS ATHLETIC TOURNAMENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR BOTH FOR KIDS AND ADULT.S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT SPORTS. OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR 2020 FIRST AND FOREMOST. THIS ONE HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ON RECENTLY. WE HAD TO CLOSE DOWN THE AQUATIC CENTER BECAUSE OF VARIOUS LEAKS AND THIS THING HAS GOTTEN TO WHERE OUR DISCUSSIONS COME DOWN TO WE THINK NOT ONLY SHOULD WE MAKE SOME MINOR REPAIRS BUT WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK AT A BIGGER PICTURE SO THE DECISION WAS TO PUT IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET. WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING SOME REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS TO TRY TO DELINEATE SPECIFICALLY A BETTER NUMBER BUT AT THIS POINT OUR BEST ESTIMATE IS ABOUT 500 THOUSAND. ALSO THE $1.7 MILLION DOLLARS FROM TDC JUST IS ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED FOR THE ENTIRE CONSTRUCTION. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS HOW WE CAN GET FUNDING FOR THE ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL $4.3 MILLION THAT'S GOING TO BE NECESSARY FOR IT TO COME TO FULL COMPLETION. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING AT PLANNED STARTUP COSTS OF THREE HUNDRED FOUR THOUSAND FOR THE  [01:35:06] CAMPGROUNDS. NOW THAT'S BASED ON FULL YEAR. I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AS WE GET INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS WE'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE. ALSO THE PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER NOT ONLY ADA IMPROVEMENTS BUT ALSO SOME PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR OF THAT BUILDING. FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FIVE THOUSAND THAT'S GOING TO COME FROM CDBG FUNDING. IT'S NOT A GENERAL FUND ITEM BUT IT IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT BUILDING'S BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS AND IT REALLY IT NEEDS SOME UPGRADING. REPLACEMENT OF WORN GROUNDS MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT. WE'VE GOT  SOME STUFF THAT'S VERY VERY OLD HASN'T BEEN REPLACED IN MANY MANY YEARS. AND YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HEAR THAT FROM A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS WE A LOT OF US HAVE OLD EQUIPMENT AND THAT THE NEXT ITEM REPLACEMENT OF THE THREE TRUCKS WE  HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES THAT HAVE IN EXCESS OF ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND AND UPWARDS MILES AND HEY'RE BASICALLY AT THE END OF THEIR LIFECYCLE. AND WE'RE KIND OF KEEPING THINGS TOGETHER WITH BALING WIRE AND WHATNOT AND THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 80 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT THAT THAT WE'RE ASKED TO DO. IN FACT THIS YEAR WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO AN ADDITIONAL PARADE FOR VETERANS DAY. AT THE PRESENT TIME OUR FUNDING DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THOSE THINGS. AND WHAT THE IMPACT IS IF WE DON'T RECEIVE THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY IT COMES OUT OF OTHER OPERATING WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO HINDER SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE THAT WE DO. THE NEXT SLIDE IS. IT'S BASICALLY CHANGES THAT WOULD THAT WE WOULD BE ASKING WITH REGARD TO THE OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET. WE'RE ESTIMATING SEVENTY FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM A SOFT OPENING OF THE CAMP GROUNDS. THE MAIN REASON FOR THAT IT'S NOT MORE THAN THAT IS I'M ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HIT THE FALL MARK WHICH IS WHICH IS WHERE YOU GET MOST OF YOUR REVENUES FROM  YOUR WINTER CAMPERS. AND THEN AGAIN THE INCREASE FOR THE STARTUP COSTS THAT'S BASED ON A FULL YEAR. I ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE MUCH LESS. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR  5.74 ADDITIONAL FTES AND THAT BASICALLY COVERS ADDITIONAL STAFF NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THE CAMP GROUNDS AND ALSO TO HANDLE RESERVATIONS AND THE LAST SLIDE IS JUST OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART WHICH BASICALLY HAS A DIRECTOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ADMINISTRATIVE SUPERVISOR AND MANAGER OVER BOTH THE RECREATION AND PARKS DIVISIONS. OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. JUST WONDERING WHAT THE STATUS OF THE CAMPGROUND IS. ARE YOU GUYS DOING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UNDERGROUND CABLING AND DRAINS AND THINGS LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK IF YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A FALL OF 2019. NO SIR WE HAVEN'T STARTED THAT YET. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME CLEARING. WE JUST WE JUST STARTED HERE JUST RECENTLY. SO IT'S A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE FALL OF 2019 NOT TO HAVE MUCH MORE DONE THAN THAT. THAT'S ALL GOOD. YOU'LL MAKE IT. WELL WE CAN ONLY GO AS FAR AS THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE TIME WHICH IS $1.7 MILLION.  I'M REALLY ANXIOUS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THAT'S GONNA BE A NICE THING FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. GREAT JOB ON THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THIS IS ASHELEY HEPBURN.  AND I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE LOOKING TO ADD FTES ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE. MY QUESTION IS THIS IN REGARDS TO THE EITHER ACREAGE OR SQUARE FOOTAGE OF FACILITIES THAT YOU MAINTAIN AND THEN WHAT'S THE BREAKOUT CURRENTLY BY FTE THAT SERVICES THOSE SPECIFIC ACREAGE IS IN YOUR PARKS FACILITY OR IF ITS FACILITIES. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. ASHELEY,  THERE'S A LOT THERE THAT YOU'RE ASKING, CAN WE CAN WE, LISA DID YOU GET MOST [01:40:04] OF IT? OKAY. DO YOU WANT. DO YOU WANT TO HELP. I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE. ARE YOU ASKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT FACILITY OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I  UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ADDING. YOU'RE ADDING FTES FOR A SPECIFIC FACILITY? YES. THE ADDITIONAL FTES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE TO HELP US WITH THE ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITIES AND OPERATING COSTS FOR THE CAMPGROUNDS AT THE REGIONAL PARK. SO ASHELEY ON  THE. HANG ON ONE SECOND. HE PROVIDED WITH IT TO US. THE LITTLE HANDOUT THAT ACTUALLY INDICATES LIKE 5.74 FTES FOR THE CAMPGROUND PERSONNEL SPECIFICALLY. I GOT THAT. I'M ASKING DAWN, IF YOU DON'T MIND I'M ASKING A SPECIFIC QUESTION TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND. SO IF YOU CAN ANSWER IT GOOD. IF HE CAN'T I'LL WAIT FOR  AN ANSWER LATER. BUT MY QUESTION ONCE AGAIN IS FOR THE CAMPGROUND, YOU HAVE SO MANY ACRES OUT THERE. CURRENTLY, YOU HAVE A STAFFING LEVEL. HOW MUCH OR HOW MANY EMPLOYEES PER ACRE DOES THE  CURRENT STAFFING LEVEL COVER. AND THEN WITH THE ADDITIONAL FTES DOES THAT REDUCE THAT  UNIT. OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THAT UNIT DOWN THERE. CORRECT. NO SIR. THOSE WOULD BE ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY WE'RE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND AT A HIGHER LEVEL. OKAY. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PROVIDE A  HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. BY THE FACT THAT WE'RE ADDING 138 FULL SERVICE CAMPSITES AND THE WELCOME CENTER THAT THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GOING TO INCREASE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES THERE. ALL RIGHT. AND SO 5 ADDITIONAL POSITIONS ARE NOT DEALING WITH THE CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE. IT'S DEALING WITH ADDRESSING ADDITIONAL SERVICE AND THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO UNDERSTAND AND KEEP IN MIND I'M NOT THERE TO SEE YOUR PRESENTATION I'M LISTENING IN. SO I DON'T HAVE ALL THE  THINGS THAT YOU HAVE THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL GO BACK TO MUTE. YOUR PERFECT ASHELEY. ABSOLUTELY PERFECT. I JUST WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS WHAT HE HAD DISCLOSED ON THE FLYER HERE. SO IT'S ALL GOOD SIR. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. CHARLES RADLEY. I'M JUST WONDERING ON  TURKEY CREEK IT'S ALL THE STORM CLEANUP IS THAT ALL COMPLETED NOW IS THAT ALL COMPLETED? THE DEBRIS AND EVERYTHING HAS BEEN GONE AND AND WE'VE  MADE ALL THE REPAIRS. SO YEAH, IT AGAIN WE KNOW THAT THE COST TO THE CITY WAS PROBABLY ABOUT LESS THAN EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN MATERIALS SOME OF WHICH WAS DONATED BY OUTSIDE GROUPS SO THAT THE LABOR WE GOT FROM CAREER SOURCE BASICALLY MADE IT HAPPEN AND THAT WAS THEY WERE THEY WERE SUPERVISED BY SOME OF THE CITY STAFF SPECIFICALLY FROM FACILITIES AND THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AS I DO HAVE ONE BUT I WANTED TO WAIT TILL EVERYBODY ELSE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. SO FOR ME IT'S VERY SIMPLE. I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE ARE GOING TO FIX THE AQUATIC CENTER AS THAT HAS BEEN A FOCUS FOR MANY FOLKS IN THIS AREA AND A PLACE THAT PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM IN AN AREA FILLED WITH POOLS. SO I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY PRIORITY NUMBER ONE. THE CAMPGROUND I GOT TO ASK THIS IS THE IDEA THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING ALMOST FIVE MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS THIS CAMPGROUND AND. ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 6. OKAY. SO SIX MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS CAMPGROUND. AND IS THIS GOING TO BE A PROFIT CENTER FOR US OR IS THIS GOING TO BE A DRAIN ON OUR REVENUES GOING FORWARD? NO ACTUALLY WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING IT AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND IT SHOULD BE GENERATING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS [01:45:05] OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY. YOU PROMISE. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE. WELL I CAN'T PROMISE EVERYTHING BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE I'VE RUN THESE BEFORE. AND THE TWO I RAN AT THE COUNTY BOTH GENERATED IN EXCESS OF EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE REVENUES BEING GENERATED BY OUR PARK AND REC AND AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT AS A DEROGATORY IT'S JUST A STATEMENT OF FACT. IN A CITY THAT WE NEED REVENUES IN ORDER TO OPERATE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OPPORTUNITIES COMING FROM PARK AND REC AND IF YOU CAN GENERATE THAT KIND OF REVENUE TO HELP OFFSET PROGRAMS SO THAT WE'RE NOT UP HERE FREAKING OUT ABOUT HOW WE CAN KEEP PARKS OPEN AND SUPPORT PARKS AND REC. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. WELL I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT OUR REVENUE GENERATION HAS GONE UP EVERY YEAR. THE WHOLE REASON FOR THIS IS TO HELP OFFSET OUR OPERATING COSTS. PRESENTLY WHEN WE RECEIVED THE FACILITIES FROM THE COUNTY THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR OBLIGATION WHERE  THEY'RE PAYING MONEYS TOWARDS THE OPERATIONS. THAT STOPS IN 2020. SO THE WHOLE PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO TRY TO GET THE CAMPGROUNDS IN PLACE AND RUN THEM AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND TO HELP OFFSET THOSE COSTS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND. WITH ALL THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE, IS IT POSSIBLE. AND I'M JUST PUTTING THIS OUT HERE THAT WE COULD CONSIDER OTHER THINGS AS WELL TO GENERATE REVENUES SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR CITY TO CREATE MORE REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE. I'M JUST SAYING IN GENERAL AND GIVEN YOUR EXPERIENCE TO MAYBE COME UP WITH A FEW FOR US TO FOR THE FUTURE JUST AS A HAPPENED CHANCE. OKAY. LIKE THE FOOD TRUCK WARS OR OTHER STUFF THAT A LOT OF OTHER VENUES AND CITIES DO THAT MAY BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US. THAT'S ALL. YEAH. THINGS OF THAT NATURE ARE MORE GEARED TOWARDS PARTICIPATION AND GIVING PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES. THEY'RE NOT REALLY LARGE REVENUE GENERATORS. THEY'RE ACTUALLY REALLY MORE GIVING PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR FAMILIES GO OUT AND DO THINGS. SO. BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS WE CAN DO THAT WILL GENERATE REVENUE. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT FRED. HONESTLY THAT'S OUR HOPE. I LOVE OUR PARKS. I MEAN I'M A ROLLER SKATER. YOU'VE GOT THE QUEEN OF THE PARKS. I LOVE THEM RIGHT HERE. I LOVE OUR ROLLER SKATING OUTDOORS FACILITY THERE. I'VE ENJOYED IT FOR MANY YEARS. SO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT. I GOT. WITH IT BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND THAT CAN ONLY SUPPORT THE CAMPGROUND. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THERE YOU GO. SO IF IT IS ONLY SUPPORTING THE CAMP GROUND THEN IT DOESN'T HELP THE REST OF THE BOTTOM LINE FOR PARK AND REC. YES IT WILL. IT DOES. OK. SO IT DOES IT DOESN'T. I'M SORRY. YOU CAN'T CROSS THE FUNDS  OVER TO ROADS. NO I WASN'T THINKING ROADS. NO. I DON'T THINK I MENTIONED ROADS IN THIS DISCUSSION TRACI. [INAUDIBLE] WELL I APPRECIATE THAT. THANKS TRACI. AS A PRIZE FUND THOSE FUNDS WOULD STAY WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. AWESOME. FABULOUS. TERRIFIC. THAT'S ALL I CARE ABOUT BECAUSE THE PARK AND REC HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT FOLKS UP HERE HAVE DISCUSSED ABOUT CUTTING STUFF AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS AS A CONTINUED SUPPORTED ENTERPRISE WITHIN OUR CITY AS RESIDENTS LIKE TO COME HERE FOR THEM. SO LOVE YOU FRED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AARON I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING. I'M GOOD I'M GOOD ON THIS. I APPRECIATE YOU FRED AND THE ONE THING I WILL JUST REMIND IT'S AGAIN IT'S NOT A QUESTION. PARKS AND RECREATION IS A DEPARTMENT THAT PROVIDES AMENITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S NOT 100 PERCENT GEARED ON REVENUE WHILE THIS CAMPGROUND IS A GREAT AVENUE TO GENERATE THAT, IT'S SOMETHING WE ALL HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THE IDEA OF PARKS AND REC IS A SAFE FAMILY FRIENDLY AMENITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS HERE IN PALM BAY. THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON MAINTAINING SO I WILL ADD TO THAT IS AS MUCH AS I AGREE WITH AARON AND I DO I LOVE OUR PARKS AND REC AND TO ATTRACT FAMILIES THEY NEED SOMEPLACE TO GO. BUT IF THEY CAN'T GET THERE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE MONEYS FOR [01:50:03] ROADS. OK TO GET THEM TO THE PARKS THEN OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LOVE FOR OUR PARKS TO KIND OF SUPPORT THEMSELVES IN WHATEVER ACTIVITIES TO DRAW MORE PEOPLE. WE WANT PEOPLE TO GO YES FRED POPPE PARK. I THINK WE'RE DRAWING A PRETTY GOOD CROWD. WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER IN ANY SITUATION. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD JUST A QUICK QUESTION FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND I KNOW YOU PRESENTED YOUR DEPARTMENT TODAY. IT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S BEEN ANY DISCUSSION AS FAR AS I THOUGHT THAT THE RECENT BILL OF MR. RANDY FINE LOOKING ABOUT LEVYING PENALTIES FOR THE SEWAGE BREAKS AND ISSUES IN THE CITY THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE RECENT COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT POTENTIAL FEES IF THIS WAS IN PLACE IN YEARS PAST THAT WE COULD HAVE FACED EIGHT, NINE MILLION DOLLARS IN FEES FOR OUR PREVIOUS STORMS SITUATION THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. HAS THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING BUDGETING FOR THAT IF AND WHEN SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN? SPECIFICALLY TO THE BILL OR TO THE UTILITIES ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY TO THE UTILITIES BILL THAT'S CONNECTED OR JUST IN GENERAL ANY SORT OF. JUST IN GENERAL. BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A RESULT OF SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OUR PHYSICAL CURRENT CONTROL. YEAH. AND IT'S GOING TO BE A RESPONSE TO A SITUATION. AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PIGGY BANK WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY SET UP. RIGHT. MY CONCERN AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WE'RE JUST AT THE BEGINNING STAGES IS TALKING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF I SHOULD WAIT TILL PUBLIC WORKS  TO TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I DEFINITELY  WANTED TO GET A CONVERSATION STARTED ABOUT PREPARING FOR SUCH A BIG BILL TO COME ABOUT. RIGHT. SO FUND BALANCE IS ALWAYS WE HAVE A MINIMUM FUND BALANCE WE DO KEEP ON HAND THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DIP INTO YOUR FUND BALANCES YOUR EMERGENCY FUND COULD BE FUNDING FOR EMERGENCY FUND WHICH WE COULD DO. THAT'S NOT A ISSUE. IT STILL HAS TO BE A PRIORITY ON THE LIST VERSUS ROAD MAINTENANCE OR OTHER THINGS AS FAR AS LIKE THE UTILITIES SPILL AS WE TALKED TO THE COUNCIL. ANY FINES LEVY THAT FROM DEP NOW OR EPA THAT WAY WE ALREADY FACE THOSE COME OUT OF THE ENTERPRISE UTILITIES FUND AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. WE'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN TAKING GREAT STEPS IN THE LAST YEAR AND A LOT OF OUR COUNCIL AMENDMENTS ARE UTILITIES UPGRADES OR REPAIRS TO THE PLANT IN THE NORTHEAST AS WELL SO AND WE'RE DOING OUR MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT THAT KEEPS US, YOU KEEPS OUR PLANTS 100%. AS FAR AS DISASTERS GO. YOU CAN HAVE A GREAT PLAN AND THEN AND ALL THE FUNDS IN THE WORLD BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO THEN MAKE PRIORITIES OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA REPAIR FIRST AND HOW YOU'RE GONNA REBUILD AND RECOVER FROM THOSE STORMS IT MAY NOT BE ABLE DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE AND HAVE IT HUNDRED PERCENT BACK ON LINE BUT YOU DO NEED TO TAKE DUE CARE FOR THAT AS WELL. OK. THANK YOU. WELCOME. SO I'D JUST A QUICK QUESTION LISTEN AND THIS MAY BE A SILLY QUESTION BUT I'VE GOT TO ASK IT. IS THERE SOMETHING SOME SORT OF LIABILITY INSURANCE THAT THE CITY CAN CARRY TO MANAGE. WE HAVE. THESE OMG SITUATIONS. SOME CAN BE MITIGATED THAT WAY NATURAL DISASTERS ARE MORE INTERESTING. THERE'S NOT A FUND FOR THAT. THAT'S SAD FOR US. YES, THERE'S, I MEAN THERE'S INSURANCE POLICIES ON THE FACILITIES. THERE'S DEDUCTIBLES WE DO HAVE THOSE COVERAGES AND WHATNOT. THOSE THOSE AREN'T THE THINGS THAT I'M [INAUDIBLE]. UNDERSTOOD.  THE THINGS LIKE DEBRIS REMOVAL DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ADDITIONAL COSTS TO THE CITY AND THERE ARE MITIGATION OF ALL THOSE THINGS THERE'S LOTS OF VENUES FOR THAT. BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF CASH OUTLAY THAT COMES UP FIRST JUST LIKE IF YOU HAVE DAMAGE TO YOUR HOME THE CASH OUT WAY TO GET YOU SECURED AND THEN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR INSURANCE AND YOU WAIT FOR ALL THOSE THINGS. EXACTLY. SO ALL RIGHT. WE DO HAVE SOMETHING. WE HAVE A LOT OF INSURANCE. I WILL  SAY THAT THERE'S A LOT OF INSURANCE JUST DOESN'T ALWAYS APPLY TO A NATURAL DISASTER. UNDERSTOOD. JUST TRYING TO AT THE END OF THE DAY MITIGATE THE DOLLARS AND CENTS LEAVING THIS CITY'S POCKET. BALANCE BETWEEN INSURANCE POLICIES AND CASH ON HAND TO TAKE CARE OF IT. THERE IS A YOU KNOW AN ROI TO THAT METHODOLOGY. I HAVE NO DOUBT, NO DOUBT. ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? IS THIS IT FOR THE EVENING. MR. HEPBURN? MR. PARR? I'M GOOD AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF OUR PEOPLE WHO CAME TO PRESENT. IT'S DEFINITELY AN ENLIGHTENING PROCESS FOR ME AND I'M SURE FOR ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING THIS OR LISTENING. IT'S DEFINITELY GOOD STUFF. I WANT TO COMMEND [01:55:01] ALL OF THE PARTICIPANTS THAT PRESENTED A VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION FOR NOT ONLY US TO UNDERSTAND THE BUDGET BUT FOR EVERYONE WHO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW IT ON TELEVISION. THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT. OKAY. WELL THAT'S IT. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE. WE'LL CALL THE MEETING. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.