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[Call to Order]

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I'M GONNA CALL A REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. OUR INVOCATION TODAY IS GOING TO BE LED BY COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO JUNIOR AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY. PLEASE RISE.  THANK YOU COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO AND COUNCILMAN BAILEY. BAILEY. OKAY. TERESE ROLL CALL. MAYOR CAPOTE.  HERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON. HERE. COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. HERE. COUNCILMAN BAILEY. HERE. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. HERE. MS. MORRELL. HERE. MS. SMITH. HERE.  ANNOUNCEMENTS. SIR MR. MAYOR. THREE VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY

[Announcements]

DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS FOR PROFIT PROVIDER ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING AND ESSENTIAL SERVICE PERSONNEL. TWO VACANCIES ON THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT MUST BE LOCATED WITHIN THE DISTRICT REPRESENTING ONE INSTITUTION OF HIGHER EDUCATION COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY AND ONE IN THE BANK OR FINANCIAL INSTITUTION. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY FLORIDA.ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9 5 2 3 4 1 4. OK THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR. AGENDA REVISIONS. COUNCILMAN BAILEY. MAYOR I'VE ADDED

[Agenda Revisions & Consent Agenda]

RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019-11 TO SUPPORT A HOUSE BILL 141 SENATE BILL 216 AND 368 IN FURTHERANCE OF RESTORING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AS ITEM NUMBER SIX UNDER NEW BUSINESS. OKAY. MS. MORRELL. YES MAYOR. THE NORTH SHORE TRI PARTY UTILITY AGREEMENT WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY STAFF. MRS. SMITH NO FURTHER BUSINESS. OKAY. ANY THING IN THE CONSENT AGENDA. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO HAS BEEN PULLED OR ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? IF NOT I'M GONNA NEED A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE ADDITION OF COUNCILMAN BAILEY'S RESOLUTION 2019-11 AND WITHDRAW THE NEW BUSINESS NUMBER THREE AND THE REMOVAL OF NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO. I NEED A SECOND SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES. MRS. SMITH. NO WE PULLED THE ONLY ONE FROM CONSENT. RECOGNITION AND PROCLAMATIONS. GONNA DO

[Recognitions & Proclamations]

SOME RECOGNITIONS HERE. FIRST WE'LL DO THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM ONE YEAR OF SERVICE SO IF I CALL YOUR NAME PLEASE COME ON DOWN RECEIVE YOUR PIN AND GET YOUR FIVE MINUTES TO SAY HELLO. AARON PARR. IS CHARLES RADLEY HERE. TRACI HILDRETH. STEVEN HENRY. GOING FAST TODAY. JUAN BERMUDEZ AND LORI PARKER. FANTASTIC. MR. PARR. YOU DON'T GET ALL THEIR MINUTES. ULTIMATELY, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE CAME INTO THIS LAST YEAR HAVING TRIED TO GET INVOLVED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SERVE IN ANY CAPACITY AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE].  AND IF YOU GUYS EVER WANT TO VOLUNTEER OR JUST CONTACT THE PALMBAYFLORIDA.ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE VOLUNTEERS WE DO HAVE BOBBYE MARSALA. PROCUREMENT MONTH MARCH 2019

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BRING WHOEVER IS DOWN HERE WITH YOU BRING THE WHOLE CREW PUT YOUR NAME ON.

PROCLAMATION CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA. NOTICE AND PROCLAMATION OF PROCUREMENT MONTH MARCH 20 19. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA OF OUR COUNTY FLORIDA. WHEREAS THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT HAS A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE QUALITY EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF PALM BAY GOVERNMENT. AND WHEREAS IN ADDITION TO THE PURCHASE OF GOODS AND SERVICES PROCUREMENT ENGAGES IN OR HAS DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY FOR FUNCTIONS SUCH AS EXECUTING IMPLEMENTING AND ADMINISTERING CONTRACTS DEVELOPING FORECAST AND PROCUREMENT STRATEGIES SUPERVISING AND MONITORING THE FLOW AND STORAGE OF MATERIALS AND DEVELOPING WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH SUPPLIERS AND OTHER SERVICE GROUPS CENTERS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. AND WHEREAS THE PROCUREMENT AND THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PROFESSIONS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND OTHER PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS HAS TREMENDOUS INFLUENCE ON THE ECONOMIC CONDITIONS IN THE UNITED STATES WITH THE CUMULATIVE PURCHASE POWER RUNNING INTO THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND WHEREAS THE  NIGP THE INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC PROCUREMENT HAS PROCLAIMED THE MONTH OF MARCH AS PROCUREMENT MONTH TO FULL FURTHER EXPAND THE AWARENESS OF THE PROCUREMENT PROFESSIONALS ROLE TO GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BUSINESS AND CORPORATE LEADERS. NOW THEREFORE I, BRIAN ANDERSON ON BEHALF OF WILLIAM CODY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH 20 19 AS PROCUREMENT MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN THE CITY COUNCIL IN RECOGNIZING THE ROLE OF THE PROCUREMENT AND CONTACT ADMINISTRATION PROFESSION WITHIN THE BUSINESS INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT. IN WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERETOFORE SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 21ST DAY OF MARCH 2019. [APPLAUSE].

NOT JUST THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS BUT THE AWARD WINNING PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT. WOULD YOU GUYS LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING. JULIE [INAUDIBLE] SPEAK ON MY BEHALF BECAUSE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF LARYNGITIS. GOOD EVENING. WELL FIRST LET ME INTRODUCE OUR CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER IT'S BOBBYE MARSALA. WE ALSO HAVE SUSAN BLAIR A PROCUREMENT AGENT THREE SONJA WILLIAMS OUR PROCUREMENT AGENT ONE WE HAVE TWO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS NOT HERE MATT SMITH AND BONNIE HALL AND I'M JULIET MISCONI I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER MARCH'S PROCUREMENT MONTH AND THIS MONTH PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP EDUCATE OUR FELLOW EMPLOYEES ELECTED OFFICIALS ADMINISTRATORS TAX PAYERS AND VENDORS ABOUT THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THE WORK WE PERFORM EVERY DAY. FIRST AND FOREMOST IN 2018 OUR CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER WAS RECEIVED THE NATIONAL ANNE DEATHERAGE MERITORIOUS SERVICE AWARD FROM THE NIGP INSTITUTE FOR PUBLIC PROCUREMENT. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS PROCUREMENT STAFF HAS BEEN THE RECIPIENT OF SEVEN ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT AWARDS FROM NPI AS WELL AS FOR. AWARD OF EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT AWARDS FROM THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC PROCUREMENT OFFICIALS AND WE RECEIVED A BEST PRACTICE AWARD FOR OUR CONTRACT DATABASE WHICH IS CURRENTLY UTILIZED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT SEEKS TO PROVIDE FOR THE FAIR AND EQUITABLE TREATMENT OF ALL PERSONS INTERESTED IN THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT PRACTICES, MAXIMIZE THE PURCHASING VALUE OF PUBLIC FUNDS THROUGH VARIOUS METHODS OF PROCUREMENT ASSURE ADHERENCE TO LAWS REGULATIONS PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES RELATED TO CITY PROCUREMENT AND OBTAIN GOODS AND SERVICES IN A TIMELY MANNER TO MEET DEPARTMENTAL NEEDS. SO HERE'S THE FUN NUMBERS TO GO WITH THIS. IN 2018 WE ISSUED 1,931 PURCHASE ORDERS. THE VALUE OF THOSE PURCHASE ORDERS WAS OVER 52 MILLION DOLLARS. WE HAD [INAUDIBLE] SPEND INCLUDING E PAYABLES OF OVER NINE MILLION DOLLARS AND OUR TOTAL SPEND THROUGH OUR OFFICE WAS OVER 61 MILLION DOLLARS WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 15 MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. WE ALSO AWARDED FORMAL COMPETITIVE SOLICITATIONS OF OVER 10 MILLION DOLLARS. AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART. WE GENERATED OVER 355 THOUSAND DOLLARS IN REVENUE IN OUR DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR AND WE GENERATE REVENUE THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] REBATES REBATES FROM OTHER CONTRACTS AND WE ALSO SELL THE CITY'S SURPLUS PROPERTY. THAT'S AN INCREASE BY THE WAY OF 237 THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THE YEAR BEFORE. SO IN CLOSING I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE SIX VALUES OF PUBLIC PROCUREMENT. THEY'RE VERY IMPORTANT AND THEY'RE PARAMOUNT TO OUR ORGANIZATION ETHICS, IMPARTIALITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, PROFESSIONALISM, SERVICE AND TRANSPARENCY. THANK YOU.

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IF YOU GUYS HAVE NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE THEM THEY'RE A MARVELOUS TEAM AND WHEN I SAY THEY'RE WINNING AWARDS THEY'RE WINNING TOP NOTCH OUT OF THIS COUNTRY AWARDS LIKE THEY ARE IT. AND THEY SAVE US A TON OF MONEY HERE SO WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE THEM. [INAUDIBLE] COME ON UP SIR. ONE MORE PROCLAMATION CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA.

NOTICE AND PROCLAMATION OF THE CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY OF THE FLORIDA SPACE COAST TRANSFORMATION NETWORK TEAM LAUNCH DAY APRIL 1ST 2019. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIM BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA OF OUR COUNTY FLORIDA THAT WHEREAS THE CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY OF FLORIDA SPACE COAST REGION IS OFFICIALLY LAUNCHING ITS NEW SPACE COAST TRANSFORMATION NETWORK TEAM TNT ON APRIL 1ST 2019. WHEREAS CHS SPACE COAST TNT WILL BE CHARGED WITH SPARKING AN EXPLOSION OF REGIONAL AWARENESS SUPPORT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT IS NEEDED TO KEEP LOCAL FAMILY SAFE STRONG AND TOGETHER. AND WHEREAS CHS WAS FIRST LAUNCHED IN 1902 TO PROVIDE A SAFE HOME TO THE GROWING POPULATION OF ABANDONED AND HOMELESS CHILDREN IN JACKSONVILLE THUS SOLVING AN INTENSE SOCIAL CHALLENGE. AND WHEREAS CHS HAS SINCE BUILT A BRIDGE TO SUCCESS FOR MORE THAN ONE MILLION CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS STATEWIDE IN 2018 ALONE CHS HAS BUILT A BRIDGE TO SUCCESS FOR MORE THAN 60 THOUSAND STATEWIDE INCLUDING MORE THAN 5000 ALONG FLORIDA'S SPACE COAST. AND WHEREAS CHS TRANSFORMS THE FUTURE FOR LOCAL CHILDREN'S AND FAMILIES PROVIDING THE RIGHT SERVICE AND SOLUTIONS AT THE RIGHT TIME ALONG FLORIDA'S SPACE COAST CURRENTLY AN EMPHASIS ON EARLY HEAD START PROGRAMS TARGETED CASE MANAGEMENT FAMILY AND INDIVIDUAL COUNSELING AND ENDEAVOR ELEMENTARY AND A COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP SCHOOL WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE CORE OF COCOA AND WHEREAS APRIL IS NATIONAL CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH. NOW THEREFORE I BRIAN ANDERSON ON BEHALF OF WILLIAM CAPOTE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 1ST 2019 AS CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY OF FLORIDA SPACE COAST TRANSFORMATION NETWORK TEAM LAUNCH DATE AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY URGES ALL CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE GOOD BEING DONE BY THE CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY OF FLORIDA IN BUILDING BRIDGES TO SUCCESS FOR CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES SO THAT THEY MAY REALIZE THEIR FULL POTENTIAL AND THEREBY IMPROVE THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY ITS ECONOMY AND WORKFORCE AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE HERETOFOR MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 21ST DAY OF MARCH 2019. [APPLAUSE]. THE DEPUTY MAYOR SHARED A LOT AND I HOPE YOU WERE IMPRESSED BY THE WORK OF THE CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY. I DO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANKS TO NANCY PELTONEN AND WITH THE PALM BAY CHAMBER WHO ACTUALLY HAS HELPED US TO FORM THIS STRATEGY THAT WE'RE LAUNCHING ON APRIL 1ST. AND WE HAD A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE WITH THE PALM BAY ROTARY CLUB THIS THIS AFTERNOON AND I WON'T SHARE THE DETAILS BUT THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY AND WE SERVE MANY CHILDREN HERE AND THEY'RE SO WORTHY. AND AND WE JUST APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEREST AT ALL PLEASE GET A HOLD OF US CHILDREN'S HOME SOCIETY OF FLORIDA AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU INVOLVED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE].  NEXT IS PRESENTATION. MRS. MORRELL . OH YES MAYOR AND COUNCIL LIKE TO INVITE UP NANCY

[Presentation]

PELTONEN AND FROM THE PRESIDENT AND THE CEO OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE FOR HER QUARTERLY UPDATE. AND I SEE A BAG SO THAT'S EXCITING. IT'S TRAVELED RIGHT.

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OK. WELL FIRST OF ALL I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR THEIR COLLABORATION WITH THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE RE APPRECIATE THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE BUILT UPON TRUST AND RESPECT AND THE DESIRE TO CONTINUALLY IMPROVE AND GROW PALM BAY. THE CHAMBER'S MISSION IS TO SERVE ADVOCATE AND PROMOTE AS A TRUSTED VOICE OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. WE ARE THE LARGEST VOICE OF BUSINESS IN PALM BAY AND CONTINUE TO GROW EACH MONTH WITH NINE NEW MEMBERS ALREADY THIS MONTH. I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE CHAMBER FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THE HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. SO IN TERMS OF EVENTS WE'VE HAD A BUSY JUST. THIS IS OUR FIRST QUARTER THE LAST TIME IS HERE IN DECEMBER SO SINCE JANUARY WE'VE HOSTED JUMPSTART YOUR BUSINESS IN JANUARY IT COVERED HOW TO BUDGET PLAN AND IMPLEMENT AND STAY ON TRACK. FEBRUARY WAS OUR TRUSTEE MINGLE AT YELLOW DOG CAFE AND IT WAS A NICE NIGHT OF NETWORKING AND CELEBRATING OUR PARTNERS WHO INVEST AT A HIGHER LEVEL IN THE CHAMBER. WE'VE HAD EIGHT RIBBON CUTTINGS WE'VE ATTENDED THREE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONIES. ONE WAS THE FRED POPPE PARK CAMP GROUND WHICH WAS S'MORES AT 8:00 AND MORNING AWESOME. SO THEY DID A GREAT JOB OF THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN. WE ALSO PARTICIPATED IN THE MAYOR'S FITNESS CHALLENGE WALK AND ATTENDED A NUMBER OF COMMUNITY EVENTS TO BRING INFORMATION TO OUR MEMBERS INCLUDING SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES THE TPO CIVMIL COFFEE WITH A COP, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WEVENTURE, NATIONAL SPACE CLUB OF FLORIDA AND FOUNDERS FORUM AMONG OTHERS. WE HOSTED A TOWN HALL FOR DEPUTY MAYOR BRIAN ANDERSON AT THE CHAMBER WHICH WAS OPEN FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC TO COME. WE ALSO HAVE MEDIA EXPOSURE. I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT WAYS TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING IN PALM BAY IS TO GET EXPOSURE. SO I WAS ON THE JOHN HARPER RADIO HOUR ON WMEL IN JANUARY TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT THAT IS HAPPENING IN PALM BAY. I WRITE A AUARTERLY ARTICLE FOR EVERYTHINGBREVARD.COM.

AND SO THAT COMES OUT IT TALKS ABOUT ALL GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING THROW TO PROVIDE COUNTY IT'S A FABULOUS MAGAZINE. I ALSO WRITE ARTICLES FOR THE SPACE COAST BUSINESS AND WHAT'S REALLY NICE. SO THERE WAS ONE VERY NICE WITH ALL THE CHAMBER PRESIDENTS BUT I ALSO HAVE WE HAVE A PAGE THAT SHOWCASES THE BUSINESS EVERY MONTH IN PALM BAY ALONG WITH THE CHAMBER AND WHAT WE DO. SO THIS ONE WAS A THEY PASS SOLUTIONS. WE'VE HAD PALM BAY FORD WAS IN THERE IT WAS A NEW INITIATIVE THAT THEY STARTED IN JANUARY. SO KIND OF NICE EXPOSURE FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO BE IN A VERY NICE MAGAZINE AND SHOWCASE THEIR BUSINESSES. WE ALSO HAVE OUR FULL PAGE AD AND THAT IS EVERY MONTH IN SAVING SAFARI AND THIS IS OUR HEALTH AND WELLNESS EXPO THAT IS COMING UP APRIL 28. WE LIST OUR NEW MEMBERS. WE LIST ACTIVITIES THAT WE'RE DOING AND IT'S KIND OF A NICE PAGE. WE ACTUALLY HAD IF PEOPLE BROUGHT IN THE AD THEY COULD COME INTO THE CHAMBER GET A FREE BAG AND WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE BRING THE AD WITH THEM AND GET A FREE BAG. SO WE DO KNOW THAT PEOPLE LOOK IN SAVING SAFARI AD OUR MONTHLY AD SO THAT'S NICE. WE ALSO HOST A MONTHLY CHAMBER CHAT AND THAT'S ON WEB ON THE WEB AND WE LIVE STREAM IT ON FACEBOOK. WE RECEIVE HUNDREDS OF VIEWS EVERY MONTH ON THAT AND WHAT'S REALLY NICE IS WE COVER DIFFERENT BUSINESS TOPICS SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE AT THE CHAMBER IN ORDER TO GET THE INFORMATION. THIS YEAR OR I GUESS THIS MONTH. WE TALKED ABOUT SUCCESSFUL RIBBON CUTTINGS WHICH AS YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD TO EAT ALREADY SO IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT FOR BUSINESSES TO KNOW HOW TO RUN ONE SUCCESSFULLY. WE ALSO WROTE A JOINT EDC AND BOARD CHAMBER LETTER TO CONGRESSMAN BILL POSEY SUPPORTING THE PERMANENT BASING OF THE NEWLY CONSTITUTED U.S. SPACE COMMAND AT PATRICK AIR FORCE BASE. WE CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE CHAMBER IN PALM BAY WITH OUR FREE GIVEAWAY. IF YOU FOLLOW US ON FACEBOOK THEN YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS BAG IS TRAVELING AROUND THE WORLD. WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT AT ALL IN ALL CONTINENTS. IT WAS IN AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND WITH ME BUT IT'S BEEN TO CANADA IT'S BEEN ON ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE CRUISES ALREADY IT'S A VERY BUSY BAG SO IF PEOPLE WANT TO COME TO THE CHAMBER WE ASK THEM TO HASHTAG THE BAG. WE CALL IT THE BAB BAG B-A-B. BEAUTIFUL AWESOME BAG AND IT JUST GIVES EXPOSURE TO THE BUSINESSES BECAUSE A LOT OF THE BUSINESS MEMBERS ARE TAKING THEM THEY'RE TAKING PICTURES. DEBBIE LLOYD-LEE WITH ASAP PEST SOLUTIONS WAS ON A ROOF DOING A PEST INSPECTION AND HAD THE BAG UP THERE WITH HER SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A FUN INITIATIVE BUT IT ALSO LIKE I SAID GET EXPOSURE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. WE ALSO HAVE OUR VERY NICE BUSINESS DIRECTOR AND COMMUNITY GUIDE. THIS IS OUR 2019 EDITION IT'S OUR 30TH ANNIVERSARY SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PICTURE OF THE CHAMBER FROM 1959 AND THEN WHEN WE TOOK IT LAST YEAR IN 2018. IT'S AMAZING TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CHAMBER OVER 30 YEARS AND FOR THE COMMUNITY THEY CAN PICK

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IT UP AT THE OR THE CITY HAS THEM WE APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT WITH THIS. THEY HAVE ABOUT 5000 OF THEM DISTRIBUTED AT THE COMMUNITY CENTRES AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

HOPEFULLY THE LIBRARIES BECAUSE IT REALLY IS A FABULOUS RESOURCE. THE CITY HAS TEN PAGES IN THERE SO IT'S GREAT EXPOSURE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WE ALSO LEGISLATIVELY CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THE FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE SESSION BILLS ARE BEING WATCHED AND WEEKLY UPDATES ARE RECEIVED FROM BOTH THE FLORIDA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES OF IMPORTANCE TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND WE ARE DISCUSSING THOSE. A DELEGATION OF 50 LEADERS WENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE ON MARCH THE 12TH. WE DID HAVE OUR INCOMING CHAIR JESSICA MOORE WENT AND THEY MET WITH THE LOCAL SENATORS ON RECORD. REPRESENTATIVES OF PROVIDE COUNTY. IT WAS A FOUR CHAMBER LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT WAS PRE PLANNED AHEAD OF TIME SO THEY WERE ABLE TO GIVE THOSE TALKING POINTS TO EVERYONE THEY MET WITH TALKING ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF BREVARD COUNTY AND WHAT THE FOCUS IS THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR. THE CITY OF PALM BAY PROMOTIONS SO WE ARE PROMOTING THIS SPRING GOLF CLASSIC WE ONCE AGAIN ARE SPONSORING THE PALM BAY YOUTH BASKETBALL TEAM. IT WAS FUN TO SEE THE THUNDER LAST YEAR. IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR CHILDREN TO GET OUT AND PARTICIPATE GET ACTIVE AND WE WERE THRILLED TO BE A PART OF THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE A SMALL AMOUNT BUT WE DONATED 50 DOLLARS FROM THE SALE OF THE EXPIRED SO THEY WERE EXPIRED AT 2018 PALM BAY FIREFIGHTER CALENDARS. SO WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE 2020 ONE IN ADVANCE BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'LL BE GREAT SALES AND WE'D LOVE TO BE A DEPOT FOR THEM TO TO SELL THEM THROUGH THE CHAMBER AND HELP THEM OUT BECAUSE MARKETING IS EVERYTHING. UPCOMING EVENTS ON APRIL 28. WE HAVE A HEALTH AND WELLNESS EXPO WHICH IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC. IT'S UP AT THE HOLIDAY INN IN VIERA AND ONE OF THESE DAYS I'D LIKE TO SAY IT'S IN PALM BAY. THERE ARE THREE PANEL DISCUSSIONS WE HAVE TOP WELLNESS TRENDS IN 2019, PRESERVING YOUR FINANCES AND LEGAL CHOICES TO CONSIDER AND AGING IN PLACE SO THE DIFFERENT TOPICS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL CANNABIS, INVESTMENTS PLANNING GIFTING TO CHILDREN TRUSTS AND POWER OF ATTORNEYS. WE'RE TALKING AT HEALTH AT HOME PHYSICAL FITNESS NUTRITION ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE SOLUTIONS AND SERVICES IN BREVARD COUNTY. I THINK WE'VE RECOGNIZED AT LEAST FOUR BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURS. A LOT OF THEM ARE A SANDWICH GENERATION. THEY OFTEN HAVE CHILDREN AT HOME THEY'RE DEALING WITH AGING PARENTS. AND WHEN YOU GET IN A CRISIS SITUATION AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT SERVICES IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS WHEN YOU ARE IN CRISIS. SO GETTING THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME IT'S Q AND A IT'LL BE WE HAVE THREE PANELS ABOUT 30 TABLE TOPS AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO IT'S 12 TO 4 AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TALK TO THESE PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS OF PROFESSIONALS AND GET SOME INFORMATION NOW WHILE THEY CAN MAKE SOME GREAT DECISIONS. FINALLY OUR LAST THING THAT'S COMING UP IS THE MAYOR'S BREAKFAST. IT IS AS ONE OF OUR SIGNATURE EVENTS. IT IS FRIDAY MAY THE 17TH AND SHERIFF IVEY IS THE EMCEE AGAIN. SO MAYOR CAPOTE GET YOUR YOU KNOW BEST REBUTTALS ON TRACK BECAUSE I KNOW THEY PICK ON YOU ALL THE TIME BUT WHAT THAT IS IT'S THE 16 MAYORS OF THE CITIES AND TOWNS OF ALL THE CITIES AND TOWNS IN BREVARD COUNTY GET TOGETHER AT ONE PLACE AND TIME IT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT IT HAPPENS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR AND YOU GET AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE RESPECTIVE CITIES AND TOWNS. AND IT'S NICE TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON IN BREVARD COUNTY BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE GET LOST IN OUR WORLD DOWN HERE IN PALM BAY OR SOUTH OF OUR COUNTY AND THERE'S FABULOUS THINGS GOING ON IN TITUSVILLE COCOA AND THE BEACHES. SO IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM ALL THE MAYORS AND THAT'S MAY 17TH. SO I ASK YOU TO SAVE THE DATE ON THAT AND I THINK THAT WAS IT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR NANCY. HI NANCY. I'VE JUST HAD A QUESTION WHEN WHENEVER THE CHAMBER WENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE TO MEET WITH REPRESENTATIVES AND SENATORS WHAT WERE THE MAIN LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OR BILLS THAT WERE BEING ADVOCATED FOR. ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONE OBVIOUSLY IS THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. THAT WAS A HUGE ONE. THE OTHER IS THE BRIDGE THAT GOES OUT TO KENNEDY SPACE CENTER. THERE IS A HUGE PROBLEM OF MARK CONCERNED WITH THAT OF LIKE IT'S FEDERAL. BUT THEN THE STATE IS RESPONSIBLE AS IN THE COUNTY AND THE BRIDGE IS COMPROMISED AND THEY'RE WORRIED THAT IF THAT BRIDGE CLOSES IT'S THE WAY TO GET TO THE LAUNCH PADS. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE HUGE THINGS ABOUT GETTING MONEY TO REFURBISH THAT BRIDGE. I THINK IT'S IS IT 409? I'M SORRY IT'S NOT.

I'M NOT SURE OF THE ROAD NUMBER BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HOME RULE WAS ANOTHER ONE. YOU KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PUSH TO TRY AND HAVE TAKE LEGISLATION AWAY FROM THE LOCAL YOU KNOW COMMUNITY AWAY FROM YOU. I MEAN YOU ARE THE CLOSEST TO PALM BAY AND TRYING TO HAVE THE STATE REGULATE OR PUT MORE

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REGULATIONS AND NOT ALLOW YOU TO MAKE THE DECISION WHICH ARE BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS A BIG ONE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES WAS DEFINITELY THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT ALL THE BILLS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH AND THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS BEEN. YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW I GOT ON THE RADAR AND IT WASN'T A PROBLEM BEFORE AND IT SEEMS TO BE THERE REALLY I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT HOME RULE SO THOSE WERE THREE OF THE TOP THREE I CAN SEND YOU THE ENTIRE LEGISLATIVE SYNOPSIS IT WAS A FULL PAGE OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT TALKING POINTS. SO I CAN MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR COUNCIL TO SEE THAT YOU ARE THE BIGGEST PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBERS SO ABSOLUTELY IT'D BE GOOD FOR US KIND OF SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THAT REGARD. SURE. AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED LEAGUE OF CITIES WAS THIS PARTNERSHIP WHENEVER YOU GUYS WENT UP THERE WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES OR. IT WASN'T WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES THEY WE HAVE 50 BUSINESS LEADERS OF THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S OPEN TO ANYBODY TO COME THAT WANTS TO GO MELBOURNE AIRPORT GETS ORLANDO MELBOURNE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT PUTS TOGETHER A PLANE OF 50 PEOPLE AND SO YOU ARE ABLE TO BE PART OF IT. SO ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY CAN COME. I JUST KNOW WITH THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES THAT WAS ONE OF THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR THEM AND A LOT OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS PART OF THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES. AND THAT WAS A CONCERN. THE HOME RULE WAS A CONCERN FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE WANT TO KEEP THE DECISIONS HERE LOCALLY AND NOT AT THE STATE LEVEL SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE AGENDA TALKING POINTS. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ONE FINAL QUESTION ACTUALLY I'LL PROBABLY FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT. I DID GET A CHANCE TO BRIEFLY LOOK AT THE E-MAIL. OK. SO MY QUESTION IS I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I KNOW YOU PRINTED 10,000 OF THE 2019 DIRECTORIES AND HALF OF MY BELIEVE WERE PASSING OUT IN THE CITY. HOW ARE YOU DISTRIBUTING THE OTHER 5,000. WELL WHAT WE DO IS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE GETS ONE BOX IN WEST MELBOURNE AND GETS ONE BOX MALABAR GETS ONE BOX AND GRANT-VALKARIA GETS ONE BOX AND THEN WE HAVE 40 OTHER BOXES OF 100 WHICH GO TO ALL OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS. SO WE YOU HAD 45 BY THE WAY SO THE OTHER ONES ARE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS SO AT LOCAL HOTELS, [INAUDIBLE]'S PLACE THE HAMPTON INN HOLIDAY INN ON 192 WE TRY AND GET THEM OUT TO THE TRAVELERS AS WELL BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN THEY COME TO KNOW WHAT THERE IS TO DO IN THE AREA.

UNFORTUNATELY THE TOURISM OFFICE DOESN'T REALLY HAVE OUR AREA IN THEIR GUIDE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO DO OUR OWN GUIDE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT TO DO IN OUR REGION AND IF NO ONE IS PROMOTING IT HOW ARE PEOPLE GOING TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND STAY LONGER BECAUSE OF ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE HERE IN IN SOUTH BREVARD COUNTY AND PALM BAY. SO THE HOTELS ARE REALLY BIG ONES BUT SO ARE RESTAURANTS. EINSTEIN BAGEL WENT THROUGH THREE BOXES LAST YEAR. YOU'VE GOT JOE REILLY AT STATE FARM LIKE ALL OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS A LOT OF THEM WILL TAKE A BOX OF THEM AND A LOT OF REAL TOURISTS THEY GIVE THEM TO NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING INTO THE REGION. SOMETIMES THEY DO GIFT BASKETS AND THAT THEY'LL PUT THAT IN. SO A LOT OF THE REALTORS I KNOW DAVID CABLE HAD THREE BOXES HE WENT THROUGH. SO YEAH IT'S IT'S WHOEVER WANTED MORE TO DISTRIBUTE AND UTILISE FOR MARKETING.

THANK YOU NANCY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU PUBLIC COMMENTS. BILL BATTIN. BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET

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SW AFTER LAST COUNCIL MEETING. MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER SET UP A MEETING WITH BARNEY WEISS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND I AND WE WE WENT AND HAD THAT MEETING WHICH WORKED OUT RELATIVELY WELL I ONLY LOST MY TEMPER ONE TIME SO IT WAS I THINK IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD THING. BUT OUT OF THE MEETING IT GENERATED MORE QUESTIONS AND THAT'S THE WAY WE SOLVE PROBLEMS. AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I SAW CAME OUT OF THAT MEETING WAS I KEEP ADDRESSING TIF FUNDING FOR GAYNOR ROAD AT THAT MEETING IT WAS SAID THEY WERE NOT EVEN PLANNING ON USING TIF MONEY ON GAYNOR ROAD AND THEY COULDN'T EVEN TELL ME WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO CONTACT TO SEE WHO I COULD PUSH TO GET SPENDING ON TIF ROAD. SO THAT'S WHY I'M ADDRESSING COUNCIL ON THAT ONE NOW. BUT WITH THAT THAT BROUGHT UP ONE MORE PROBLEM SINCE THEY WEREN'T PLANNING ON PURCHASING RIGHT OF WAY ALONG GAYONR BUT THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BE PAVING WHAT THEY DO HAVE. SO THAT MEANS WE'LL HAVE GO FROM 20 FEET WIDE DOWN TO 15 FEET WIDE OR LESS ALONG THAT ROAD. I DON'T I PERSONALLY SEE THAT AS SOMEWHAT OF A SAFETY HAZARD. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT AND PAY FOR IT THAT WAY MY SUGGESTION IS LET'S MAKE IT A SAFE BOTTLENECK AND LOWER THE SPEED. AND I'M GOING TO BE FURTHER AND SAY PUT SOME SPEED BUMPS ALL ALONG IT SO PEOPLE HAVE TO SLOW DOWN. SINCE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PURCHASE

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THE LAND BUT THAT LED ME TO ONE MORE THING AFTER LOOKING AT TIF WHICH WAS UNDER NEW BUSINESS NUMBER THREE THAT WAS PULLED AND THAT WAS THE TRI NORTH SHORE TRI-PARTY UTILITY. THING THAT WAS GOING FOR FOR THEIR UTILITY FOR THEIR UTILITIES COMING IN THERE IT WAS COMING OUT OF TIF FUNDING AND I'M LOOKING AND YEAR ONE WHICH WAS 500,000 DOLLARS WAS USED 2006 BOND MONEY. YEAR TWO,  225 OR 223,900  ALMOST 25, 225,000 DOLLARS FOR FIVE YEARS DOING THAT OUT OF TIF FUNDS. THAT DOES NOT BENEFIT ME ON GAYNOR ROAD AT ALL. AND I HAVE THE MINUTES WHERE THE CITY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO USE TIF FUNDS TO PURCHASE RIGHT AWAY ON GAYNOR TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. WELL ONE MORE TIME I'M BEING STEPPED ON AND DON'T WORRY I CAN HANDLE IT. I'M OKAY. GAYNOR OUT BY WHERE WE LIVE WE'LL STILL BE A DIRT ROAD IN SOME AREAS YET THE DEVELOPERS ARE GETTING ME TO USE BOND MONEY AND TIP MONEY TO PUT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. WITH THAT BEING SAID MARY I APPRECIATE WHAT THE CITY DID WITH PUBLIC WORKS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I HATED TYING UP THAT MANY PEOPLE FOR ME TO VOICE AN OPINION. BUT THE ONLY WAY I CAN WORK ON IT IS TO REALLY WORK ON IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAY I ANSWER REAL QUICK MR. BATTIN. ASK A REAL QUICK QUESTION. WILL YOU EXPLAIN THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TIF AND THE VCRA AND IN THE TIF THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. WELL I WAS EXPLAINED TO ME TONIGHT THAT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TIF PROCEEDS AND TIF FUNDING. I DON'T SEE WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE WAS BECAUSE IT JUST COMES FROM A YOU KNOW IT'S TO ME IT STILL COMES OUT OF MY MY MONEY OR DEVELOPERS MONEYS WHEN THEY PAY FOR SOMETHING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT ME. AND YOU KNOW I DIDN'T GET WHAT THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN BETWEEN TIF PROCEEDS AND TIF FUNDINGS WERE ALL I SEE IS TIF TRAFFIC TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE FUNDS. AND THAT'S ALL I SEE. THERE'S LITTLE THERE'S MORE TO IT AND MAYBE STAFF SHOULD EXPLAIN THAT. THAT'LL COME ONCE WE GET EVERYBODY THROUGH RONALD [INAUDIBLE]. GOOD EVENING. RONALD [INAUDIBLE] 1500 DEPEW STREET SE GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'D LIKE TO BRING UP MAYBE AS SOME ATTENTION TO YOU ON A NEW RULE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HAVE MADE HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER ALLOWING YOU TO CALL IN FOR A AN INFRACTION OR A OF A PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR RESIDENCE OR YOUR AREA. SO NOW THEY'RE NOT ACCEPTING ANONYMOUS CALLS ANY LONGER. THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN CALL IN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT MAYBE THE PICKUP TRUCKS DOWN THE STREET OR THE GUY THAT'S CAUSING ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TO LEAVE YOUR NAME AND TELEPHONE NUMBER AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR YOUR E-MAIL AND THAT WAY IT'S ON PUBLIC RECORD. AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTACT YOU AND FIND OUT WHY YOU CALLED AND CAUSED A PROBLEM. NOW I KNOW FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED I MEAN I DON'T I MEAN MAYBE THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T HAVE THIS ISSUE.

YOU CAN MAKE RIGHT PHONE GOALS BUT WE CAN'T. AND THE REST OF US HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY I GUESS YOU KNOW FOR MANY YEARS IT'S BEEN LIKE YOU CAN CALL UP ANONYMOUSLY AND LEAVE THAT INFORMATION AND THEY'LL CHECK ON IT. AND THESE ARE THE LAWS IN THE CITY PALM BAY. IT SHOULDN'T BE UP TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE PEOPLE AT PALM BAY TO BEAR THE PUNISHMENT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BREAKING THE RULES. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND INFORM YOU IF YOU'RE NOT ALREADY AWARE OF THIS AND IT'S VERY POSSIBLE. BUT I TALKED TO MR. HAWKINS SO THAT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT CHIEF AND HE INFORMED ME THAT THERE IS SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF MAYBE SOME STATE STATUTES AND PALM BAY HASN'T BEEN FOLLOWING THOSE. WELL I KNOW THAT YOU CAN CALL IN ALONG THOSE LINES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LEAVE ANONYMOUS INFORMATION THE SAME WAY. SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S PROBABLY THE CASE.

ANYWAYS THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS BEEN MANAGED PRETTY WELL FOR MANY MANY YEARS.

AND YOU CAN DRIVE UP AND DOWN MANY OF THE ROADS HERE YOU DON'T FIND VERY MANY CODE INFRACTIONS. THE PROBLEM NOW IS NOBODY WANTS TO CALL IN AND LEAVE THEIR NAME AND TELEPHONE NUMBER AND INFORMATION BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN. WE KNOW ONCE YOU CALL UP AND YOU LEAVE THAT KIND OF INFORMATION AND THE GUY DOWN THE STREET FINDS OUT YOU WERE THE ONE THAT DID IT. HE'S GONNA BE COMING BACK TO RETALIATE

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AGAINST YOU YOUR NEIGHBORS AND NOT THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WELL YOU NEED TO PROTECT US. THIS ISN'T A GOOD RULE. THIS IS A REALLY DANGEROUS ROLE IT'LL CAUSE WARS IN THE CITY LIMITS I'M HERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT ISN'T JUST ME. I MEAN I'M HERE OBVIOUSLY COMPLAINING SO YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A THERE'S A REASON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I'M HERE. SO AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP JUST TO YOU GREAT FOLKS AND HOPEFULLY THAT YOU GUYS PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA TO TALK TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE TO MAKE THESE CHANGES TO BRING IT BACK THE WAY IT USED TO BE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR MANY MANY YEARS. MY BROTHER WAS HERE MANY YEARS AGO AS MAYOR AND I LIVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO AND I LOVE PALM BAY I MOVED BACK FROM BOCA RATON BACK TO PALM BAY. SO I LIKE IT HERE. AND I LOVE THE RULES AND BE ABLE TO CALL UP AND SAY HEY LISTEN THIS GUY'S BREAKING THE RULES SO LET'S DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE LIKE YEAH OK. AND IT'S DONE SO WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. APPRECIATE IT. WE'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER WHEN WE'RE DONE SIR. JAMES  SHONKWILER. HI I'M JAMES SHONKWILER FROM NORTH SHORE DEVELOPMENT. SO OUR ITEM WAS PULLED TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA I FILL OUT A CARD IN CASE THERE WAS ANY DISCUSSION OF US AND THERE WAS ONE MINOR DISCUSSION WHICH IS ON THE TAX INCREMENT FUNDING. SO TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AS THE BOARD WELL KNOWS IS VERY VERY DIFFERENT THAN TIF TAX OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE IT'S NOT THE SAME AT ALL FOR US THE BOARD AND THE VCRA THROUGH THEIR LEADERSHIP EARLIER HAVE APPROVED OUR TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AGREEMENT SO THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE. SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT VERY VERY CLEAR WHERE WE'RE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITY EVERY WE HAVE GOOD FAITH IN YOU WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE WE'VE SEEN GREAT CHANGES. I TODAY MET WITH OUR CONTRACTOR ON SITE. WE'VE HAD GREAT CHANGES IN THE LAST MONTH NINE MONTHS AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE GIVEN BIRTH TO WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS THAN THAT. I'M HERE AND I UNDERSTAND STAFF HAS PUT OUR AGENDA ITEM. WE DON'T HAVE ISSUE WITH THAT WE IF WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION WE'LL GIVE MORE DISCUSSION WE'RE HERE FOR THE LONG HAUL WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU JAMES.

NEXT STEVEN HADLEY. [INAUDIBLE] ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. AND THEN YOU GET TO ME. STEVE HADLEY I'M A RESIDENT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THOMAS GAUME BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF PRIOR RESTRAINT. COUNCILMAN BAILEY ASKED THE QUESTION AS TO WHETHER ACTUAL CENSORSHIP HAD TO OCCUR IN ORDER FOR PRIOR RESTRAINT TO BE TRUE. THE CITY ATTORNEY ANSWERED WITH AN EMPHATIC YES WE SPOKEN ON THIS BEFORE ON THIS ORDINANCE AND HAVE BEEN IGNORED. THE ORDINANCE OFFERS NO DEFINITION OF WHAT IS OBJECTIONABLE AND THEREFORE IS OVERLY BROAD. INDIVIDUALS DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEIR EXPRESSIVE CONDUCT OR SPEECH CROSSES THE LINE AND VIOLATES THE ORDINANCE. FURTHERMORE AS WE HAVE SHOWN OBJECTIONABLE SPEECH IS STILL PROTECTED SPEECH AND THEREFORE THE ORDINANCE IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL BECAUSE OF THOSE REASONS. GIVEN THAT BACKDROP MS. SMITH'S ANSWER TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY WAS WRONG. IN A CASE IN 1952 CALLED WEIMAN VS. UPDEGRAFF A NAME WHICH I LOVE THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT CLAUSE THAT CHILL SPEECH THAT DAMPEN THE FREE EXPRESSION OF SPEECH ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES. IT HAS A CHILLING EFFECT ON PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO DON'T WANT SEEK OR NEED THE CITY'S APPROVAL FOR OUR PROTECTIVE SPEECH IN A DIFFERENT CASE CALLED CONSTANTINE VS. DIRECTORS AND VISITORS AT GEORGE MASON UNIVERSITY. THE COURT WROTE QUOTE THE FACT THAT NO DIRECT RESTRAINT OR PUNISHMENT IS IMPOSED UPON SPEECH OR ASSEMBLY DOES NOT DETERMINE THE FREE SPEECH QUESTION. UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES INDIRECT DISCOURAGEMENT UNDOUBTEDLY HAVE THE SAME COERCIVE EFFECT UPON THE EXERCISE OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AS IMPRISONMENT FINES INJUNCTIONS OR TAXES. THE SUPREME COURT CLEARLY DISAGREES WITH MS SMITH WHEN THE MODIFICATION TO THE TIME LIMITS OF SUBMITTING PRESENTATIONS WAS OFFERED BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY. HE NOTED THAT WE ALL KNOW WHY THE ORDINANCE WAS MADE. WE DO. IT WAS FOR THE STATE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON AND SAID BEFORE IT WAS SAID AND APPROVAL WHAT WAS SAID. THAT'S THE GENESIS OF THE LAW. YET THE CITY COUNCIL A MEMBER OF WHICH ORDERED THE ORDINANCE TO BE WRITTEN BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THEN TURNS AROUND AND SAYS WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THIS. THAT'S THE SAME CITY'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNCIL NOT THE PEOPLE AND WAS DIRECTED TO WRITE THE ORDINANCE TO BEGIN WITH. IT'S A GREAT CIRCULAR SYSTEM.

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TELL THE OFFICE WHAT TO DO AND THEN RELY ON THE OFFICE TO JUSTIFY IT. PLEASE STOP THIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL MADNESS. THIS ORDINANCE CREATES. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. I DON'T WANT TO GO AND PAY FOR LAWYER TO SUE THE CITY EVEN THOUGH I WIN.

I KNOW I'D WIN THE I'VE GOT LAWYERS WHO ARE LOOKING TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY GET THEIR FEES FOR YOU FROM THE CITY. THANK YOU. NEXT PERSON. STEVE BLAND. COULD EVEN COUNCIL MAYOR TESTY BLAND PUBLICLY DEPARTMENT PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER THINK EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH OUR MOTTO SLASH OUR INFORMATION ON CONNECT SERVE AND IMPACT. AND THE ISSUE THAT WE CONNECT, SERVE, IMPACT. NO WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITIZENS COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS OWNERS. WE'RE TAKING THIS TIME TO DO THAT. AND PARTNER WITH TRIAD OF BREVARD COUNTY WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT PROVIDES SENIOR SERVICES AND SERVICES TO OUR SENIORS IN THE AREA VCOC COORDINATOR AND [INAUDIBLE] JORDAN HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM TO ORGANIZE SOUGHT COUNCIL AND OUR FIRST SOUGHT COUNCIL FOR THOSE SENIORS IS GOING TO BE MARCH 26TH AT THE GREATER PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER. IT'S GOING TO BE FROM 10:00 A.M.

TO 12:00 P.M. WE'LL BE PROVIDING LUNCH DURING THAT TIME AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MEMBERS FROM CITY MEMBERS FROM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY COME AND GIVE PRESENTATIONS ON HOW AND WHAT SERVICES ARE AVAILABLE TO OUR SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY HOPING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE TO OUR TO OUR SENIORS IN THIS GREAT CITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION THEY CAN FIND IT AT @PALM BAYPD ON FACEBOOK SOCIAL MEDIA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU STEVE. THOMAS REDMAN. SO GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. AND I WANT TO GO BACKWARDS A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE SOME THANKS. I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY REALIZES HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE HOMELESS INITIATIVE HERE IN PALM BAY. BUT BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT WAS BACK OCTOBER NOVEMBER THAT I STARTED MEETING WITH ALL YOU GUYS ONE ON ONE TO TRY TO DISCUSS ALL THE ISSUES WE HAD IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMUNITY HAD OUR FIRST HOMELESSNESS WORKSHOP IN MARCH OF 2017 ON MARCH 29TH AND THEN WE HAD OUR SECOND WORKSHOP IN MAY. WE BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S SUPPORT OF THIS WE FUNDED A COLD NIGHT SHELTER AND GOT OUR COMMUNITY OUR FIRST COLD NIGHT SHELTER AND HAVE IT FUNDED FOR FIVE YEARS ALL BECAUSE OF YOUR SUPPORT. AND STARTING IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR OF 2017 WHEN WE HAD SOME CHANGES IN THE COUNCIL WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON COMING IN FOR MR. HOLDEN AND OUR NEW CITY MANAGER SINCE THEN I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT I SHOULD DO. AND LET ME EXPLAIN. I HAD A MEETING WITH VIC LUEBKER AND IAN GOLDEN FROM THE COUNTY ABOUT THE STAND DOWN THAT I HAD BEEN DISCUSSING WITH GREG WHICH IS BASICALLY WHERE WE PROVIDE ALL THE SERVICES IN ONE PLACE THE COUNTY WANTS TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY. BUT SINCE I'M NOT REALLY A CITY VOLUNTEER ANYMORE I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK FOR THE COUNTY SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS.

WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT SO SEMI-ANNUALLY AND WE HAVE I DISCUSSED IT WITH THE ROTARY TODAY ABOUT THEM BECOMING A PARTNER AND THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT DOING THAT AS A MATTER OF FACT WE'RE HAVING A MEETING ABOUT GETTING SOME GRANTS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. WELL I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I'M I'M BEGGING THE COUNCIL. I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF REAL IMPORTANT ISSUES OUT THERE BUT I ADVOCATE FOR ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY AND SO IF I'M EXPECTING TOO MUCH TO HAPPEN TOO FAST WE'VE HAD A LULL SINCE NOVEMBER SO I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE GIVE ME A VENUE TO GET ANSWERS TO ALL OF THE QUESTIONS NOT JUST ABOUT THE STAND DOWN BUT ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON SO WE CAN HAVE YOUR SUPPORT SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE THE EXAMPLE THAT EVERYBODY FREAKED OUT ABOUT. I MEAN IF YOU REMEMBER ALL THE MEDIA THAT WE GOT FOR FOR ALL THE GOOD WE WERE DOING WE'RE STILL ALL THOSE SAME PEOPLE AND WE STILL HAVE THAT EXACT SAME PLAN. I'M JUST ASKING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU TOM. ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN THE LINE I GUESS. BILL FOR BILL BATTIN. YES MAYOR. I ACTUALLY WENT BACK TO THE ACTUAL MEETING NOTES THAT WERE WERE THAT WERE AT THE LAST MEETING AND I TALKED TO BILL BEFORE THIS MEETING HAD HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO ACTUALLY CALL HIM BACK. SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE TIMING

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OF THAT BUT I TOOK A MOMENT. THEY WERE IMPACT FEES THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY DEDICATED TO COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE NOVEMBER 2ND MEETING THEY AGREED. BUT ON THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING OF 2017 ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED THE STAFF, STAFFS SAID THE IMPACT THESE WOULD BE DEDICATED IN THAT WAY FOR THAT THAT WAY. BUT OUR STAFF NOW WILL STILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT ROAD AS WE ARE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES WE DO USE THEM AS WE COLLECT THEM FROM DEVELOPERS WE USE THEM WHERE WE NEED THEM IN THOSE TIMES. BUT I KNOW BILL'S BEEN ASKING FOR A WHILE SO WHEN WE'RE UNDERNEATH THE ROAD PROGRAM WE'RE GOING TO STILL LOOK AT THOSE RIGHT OF WAY. AND I'VE I'VE HEARD HIS HIS HIS LARGE LARGE ASK ASK. BUT IT'S IT'S NOT A LARGE ASK. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH BILL ANY TIME HE WANTS FOR AS LONG AS HE WANTS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT ANY ENGINEERING PROCESSES THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THE CITY AS A WHOLE ANYWHERE. SO THAT WAS ONE. THE TIF WE LOVE ACRONYMS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. EVEN IN I.T. WITH THE SAME ACRONYM DOESN'T MEAN THE SAME THING TWICE. SO TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE IS YOUR IMPACT FEES PAY FOR YOUR ROAD PROJECTS FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENTS THAT PAY FOR THE ROAD PROJECTS. TIF AND CRA IS A TAX INCREMENT FINANCING WHICH IS MORE OF A REDISTRIBUTION OF TAX REVENUES WITHIN A CRA. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENCES WE CAN HAVE A LARGE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I TOOK A MINUTE TO GET KEPT SEEING TIF THE SAME WAY ABOUT NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR WHEN I TOOK THIS OFFICE AND WENT [INAUDIBLE] TIF? COULD BE. IT'S NOT. IT'S IT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. SO THE NEXT PERSON WOULD BE RONALD [INAUDIBLE]. I GUESS THAT WOULD FALL TO TERESE OR YOURSELF. I CAN ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE I HEARD THE SAME AS WELL IT CAME THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. CITY ATTORNEY ACTUALLY CHIMED IN ABOUT THE SAME DAY I DID. I SAID EXCUSE ME. NO ANONYMOUS CALLS? SINCE WHEN. SO AS OF MARCH 11TH AN EMAIL ROTATED AROUND TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICE AND ALL THROUGH THE BILLING DEPARTMENT AND NOW HIS CALLS CAN BE TAKEN. SO THAT HAS BEEN A PRACTICE WE'VE DISCONTINUED IMMEDIATELY.

SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL ANYTIME IF YOU ARE MICKEY MOUSE WE WILL TAKE THE COMPLAINT. WE WILL GO TO THE I USE THAT AS AN EXAMPLE STAFF I SAID SO WHAT ARE YOU TELLING ME. MICKEY MOUSE 123 MAIN STREET CAN'T CALL. SO I UNDERSTAND.

JUMPING FROM JAMES BECAUSE HE JUST HAD TO SAY A STATEMENT. STEPHEN HADLEY IS THERE ANYTHING TO ADD FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. MAYOR. PRIOR RESTRAINT INVOLVES SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY SEEKS TO CENSOR SPEECH. IT IS PROVIDING REGULATIONS ON SPEECH BASED UPON ITS CONTENT IT ESSENTIALLY SEEKS TO SUPPRESS SPEECH. A REGULATION IS NOT PRIOR RESTRAINT IS IT IS A VALID TIME PLACE AND MANNER REGULATION.

OUR REGULATION THAT SEEKS NOT TO SUPPRESS IT BASED UPON ITS CONTENT BUT ONLY SEEKS TO SEE IF IT ACTUALLY POSES A THREAT TO OUR NETWORK. IT'S NOT CONTENT BASED AT ALL.

AND THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID THAT A VALID TIME PLACE AND MANNER REGULATION EVEN IF IT HAS AN INCIDENTAL EFFECT IF SOME PEOPLE ARE CHILLED JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE IT IF IT IS INCIDENTAL. IT DOES NOT MAKE THE REGULATION INVALID. THANK YOU. JUST REAL QUICKLY WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD AND MY TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF BEING HERE WE HAVE NEVER STOPPED ANYBODY FROM SPEAKING AT THAT PODIUM. WE HAVE LISTENED TO PHONE MESSAGES WE HAVE SEEN VIDEOS AND WE HAVE NEVER INSTIGATED ANYBODY FROM NOT SPEAKING AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN IN THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN HERE WE HAVE NEVER ONCE CUT ANYBODY OFF AT THAT MICROPHONE EXCEPT FOR THE BUZZER GOING OFF AND WE LET THEM GO BEYOND THE BUZZER MANY NUMBERS OF TIMES WE HAVE LISTENED TO CELL PHONE MESSAGES CELL PHONE VIDEOS SO I THINK WE'RE PRETTY LIBERAL WITH WHAT WE LET PEOPLE SAY AND DO HERE IN THE COUNCIL AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FROM MY TWO AND A HALF YEARS THAT WE HAVE NEVER STOPPED ANYBODY FROM SAYING WHAT THEY WANTED TO AT THAT MICROPHONE. THE NEXT PERSON. MAYOR. YES. IF I MAY. THAT'S ONE FOR THE RECORD TOO. I'VE BEEN FIGHTING TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WAY AND COUNSEL AND STAFF. I UNDERSTAND THERE NOW THAT THE ISSUE CAME UP. WE HAD REASONABLE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO TO PROTECT OUR SYSTEM FOR VISUAL CONTENT ESPECIALLY AUDIO CONTENT AS WELL. AND IN ADDITION TO THAT THERE'S THE LOGISTICS OF MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING CAN HEAR AND SEE EVERYTHING. AND WE HAD TO COORDINATE IN THAT REGARD TOO. BUT REGARDLESS OF ALL OF THAT THERE WAS A CIRCULAR ARGUMENT THAT WAS MADE AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR I NEVER ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO EVER CREATE THE ORIGINAL RULE TO BEGIN WITH. THAT WAS NOT ME AS INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL PERSON THAT ASKED THAT SO THEREFORE ME RELYING ON MY MY LEGAL COUNSEL AFTER THE FACT WASN'T NECESSARILY CIRCULAR I DIDN'T ASK THEM TO STARTED BUT I DID ASK THEM TO HELP US PULL IT BACK AS MUCH AS WE CAN. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WORKED ON OF COURSE LEGALLY WE COULD BRING IT BACK ALL THE WAY. AND I I SUPPORT THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE ASKED AS FAR AS STAFF AND THEIR INTERESTS FOR PROTECTING THE

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SYSTEM. I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT STAFF CAN CONSIDER I STILL THINK THAT THOSE THINGS COULD IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BRING THEIR OWN PROJECTOR AND CONNECT TO OUR NETWORK. THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM. BUT I WAS CURIOUS AND I INVITE MR. HADLEY TO PLEASE CONTACT ME. THERE'S AN AUDIENCE YOU MENTIONED AND I'M NOT SURE IF YOU MEANT THE AUDIENCE OR IF YOU'RE MEANT THE RULES AND PROCEDURES THE COUNCIL POLICIES IN OTHER WORDS BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WAS AWARE OF THAT TOO BECAUSE I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING PART OF PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE. I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE. THOMAS REDMAN. YES MAYOR. THE STAFF IS WORKING ON A DATE OR A WORKSHOP WITH COUNSEL. WE ARE GOING TO ADVERTISE THAT DATE SO THAT WE CAN GET FORM PRESENTERS FROM OUR REGISTERED 501(C)3S FAITH BASED COMMUNITIES AND OTHER NON-PROFITS THAT ARE IN THE AREA THAT WOULD LIKE TO ASSIST US IN OUR QUEST TO SERVE THE SOUTHERN PROVIDE COUNTY AREA FOR HOMELESSNESS. I HAVE TALKED WITH VIC AND IAN AT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE AND A COUPLE TIMES ACTUALLY TRYING TO COORDINATE ON ITEMS THAT HAVE COME UP AND WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT WE WILL THEN MOVE INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS. TO GET TO A

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PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE MS SMITH. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-16 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE  SUBCHAPTERS DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND CONDITIONAL USES IN ORDER TO PERMIT EVENT HALL REVENUE BEING USED WITHIN GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDED FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MRS. SMITH AT THIS TIME TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT RAYMOND FISCHER TO COME UP. HE'S NOT HERE. THIS IS THE FINAL READING SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM. BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SW REAL SHORT AND SWEET. ONE MORE TIME IS THE NOISE AND THE TIME FRAMING FROM 6 A.M. TO MIDNIGHT. BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE NEXT TO. AND WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROBLEM WITH HARLEY DAVIDSON ON THE NOISE. I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LIKE TO PARTY AND SOMETIMES THE PARTIES GET CARRIED AWAY. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK. I DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE IT AND LET PEOPLE RUN A BUSINESS AND MAKE PROFIT AND BRING MONEY INTO THE CITY I UNDERSTAND THAT. JUST LET THE RESIDENTS ALSO BE COMFORTABLE. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM. PHIL WEINBERG 46 SCANLAN RD I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY IN BILL'S STATEMENT THIS ORDINANCE IT'S STILL GOING TO REQUIRE A MINIMUM FIVE ACRE LOT AS YOU KNOW AND IT STILL REQUIRES APPROVAL THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE IT DOESN'T THIS DOESN'T ALLOW THESE VENUES AT ANY TIME ONCE ONCE A BUSINESS DECIDES ON A LOCATION THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR CONDITIONAL USE AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED. SO IT'S NOT A ACROSS THE BOARD APPROVAL. OK. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING ASK COUNCIL FOR A MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-16 FOR FINAL READING. NEED A SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ITEM NUMBER TWO MRS. SMITH ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-17 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 5 LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER ENTERPRISE ZONE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY REPEALING SECTIONS 52.310-52.318 RESOLVING THE ENTERPRISE ZONE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR THE DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MRS. SMITH. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING LISA ANYTHING TO ADD? THERE'S NOTHING TO ADD MAYOR THIS IS FINAL READING JUST DISSOLVING THE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS COUNSEL FOR A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER  2019-17 FOR FINAL READING. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCIL? IF NOT I'M GOING TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR

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SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSE SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ITEM 3 MRS SMITH. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-18 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 5 LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER MUNICIPAL CHARTER SCHOOL AUTHORITY BY REPEALING SECTION  52.26C THROUGH 52.269 DISSOLVING THE MUNICIPAL CHARTER SCHOOL AUTHORITY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HERE WITH PROVIDING FOR THE DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MS SMITH. AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. LISA ANYTHING TO ADD? NOTHING TO ADD MAYOR. FINAL READING. OKAY. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM. IF NOT I'M GONNA CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING. ASK COUNCIL FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2019-18 FINAL READING. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAILEY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CALL IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSE SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MRS. SMITH. ORDINANCE NUMBER  2019-19 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OUR COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 5 LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS SUBCHAPTER GENERAL LIABILITY RISK MANAGEMENT PROGRAM MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE SUPERVISION OF THE RISK MANAGEMENT PROGRAM PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANES, PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MRS. SMITH. I'M GOING OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FINAL READING. OK. IS THERE ANY BODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES BEFORE AGAINST THIS ITEM. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ASK COUNCIL FOR A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019 - 19 FOR FINAL READING. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL.

IF NOT THEN I'LL CALL IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE MRS. SMITH. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-20 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 5 LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 64 BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT SUBCHAPTER CREATION OF CITY PALM BAY BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MRS. SMITH. AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. ANYTHING TO ADD. I'M JUST I JUST WANT TO GET THIS OVER WITH AND GET IT STARTED. OKAY THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY SO. SO THANK YOU. YEAH. OKAY. LISA ANYTHING FROM STAFF. NO SIR. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM. IF NOT I'M GOING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ASK COUNCIL FOR A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-20 FOR FINAL READING. SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM COUNCIL. MAYOR. JUST I WAS REITERATE MY OPPOSITION AND I THINK THAT EXPANDING IT OUT TO MORE FOLKS IS DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT OUR ORIGINAL INTENT WAS WITH THE BOARD. BUT I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I DID WANT TO MENTION ONE COMMENT IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAD A CHANCE TO SEE ON FACEBOOK OR THE BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONERS MEETING THIS ACTUALLY WAS MENTIONED OVER THERE AS A VERY GOOD THING. SO I THINK WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THIS. OK WITH THAT I'M GOING TO CALL IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. NAY. 4-1. ITEM NUMBER SIX MRS. SMITH. ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019 - 21 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA  AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS AS FOLLOWS. USE OF UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE IN THE FOLLOWING FUNDS. GENERAL FUND, LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND UTILITY OPERATING FUND, UTILITIES CONNECTION FEE FUND, UTILITIES RENEWAL REPLACEMENT FUND AND BUILDING FUND. RECOGNIZING PROPERTY SALES AND TRANSFER FUNDS TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE CIP FUND TRANSFERRING 300 THOUSAND FROM GENERAL FUND TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE CIP FUND FOR COUNCIL'S REQUEST RECOGNIZING ADDITIONAL REVENUE DUE TO BE BCRA MILLAGE RATE CORRECTION DUE TO BREVARD COUNTY RATE CHANGE TRANSFERRING ADVERTISING EXPENSES JUST FOR PART TIME BCRA SECRETARY POSITION. RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING RATIFYING CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MS. SMITH. AT THIS TIME I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND TURN IT OVER TO CITY MANAGER. YES MAYOR IT'S THE SECOND BUDGET AMENDMENT IT'S FOR FINAL READING. THE ITEMS ARE THERE. OK. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

BILL. BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SW FIRST I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE

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GENERAL FUND 0 0 0 0 0 1. 860 THOUSAND DOLLARS WHICH ALSO RUNS WHICH GOES INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND LINE ITEM 0 I MEAN 3 0 7 WHICH IS ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND. I APPRECIATE GREATLY THE MONEY THAT'S GOING IN THERE. THAT'S NOT  WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT THOUGH IS 860 THOUSAND DOLLARS DOES NOT COME ANYWHERE CLOSE TO THE 7 MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ANNUALLY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE. SO DON'T THINK BECAUSE WE ACCOMPLISHED. JUST BECAUSE YOU ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO ON THIS ONE BECAUSE YOU ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING ON THIS ONE THAT THAT TAKES THE HEAT OFF YOU. I PROMISE YOU I'LL STAY ON IT TILL THE ROADS ARE GREAT IN PALM BAY. BUT I APPRECIATE THE 860 THOUSAND DOLLARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BILL. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ASK COUNCIL FOR MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2019-21 FINAL READING. OK. SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL? MAYOR. I WILL SAY THAT THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND DID COME UP FOR A POINT OF DISCUSSION AT CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE DO WORK TO THAT 7 MILLION DOLLAR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND THAT AND THAT'S BY THE WAY THAT'S PER YEAR THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO PER YEAR. BUT BUT FOR NOW WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GOING TO BUILD UP TO THAT. SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON TOP OF THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD ARE ON TOP OF THAT. AND THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON TOP OF THAT. AND SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO WORK WE'RE GOING TO WORK TOWARD THAT GOAL. ANYTHING ELSE. COUNCIL MAYOR JUST LIKE I SAID I KNOW NORMALLY I'VE BEEN VOTING AGAINST THESE THINGS TILL WE GOT THIS MONEY THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING ABOUT. I'M GLAD WE'RE THERE. BUT MR. BATTIN'S RIGHT. WE ACTUALLY HAD MORE MONEY IN THIS IN THE FUND JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. AND SO IT'S ALWAYS THIS UP AND DOWN WE CAN'T AFFORD TO FALL AGAIN. SO BUT I'M VERY EXCITED TO GET THIS IN THERE BECAUSE I WAS CONCERNED WHETHER WE'D EVEN GET THIS. AND I'M HAPPY. WITH THAT I'M GOING TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. ALL RIGHT QUASI. MRS. SMITH.

THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDED TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THEIR SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

COUNCIL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. FIRST THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR PERSON. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS. THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC. AT THE END OF THE DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019-08 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNTY FLORIDA GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RETAIL AUTOMOTIVE GAS FUEL SALES IN CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BABCOCK STREET AND VALKARIA ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN. GRANTED BEING USED AS CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDING FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE. PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MRS. SMITH. AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT CARMEL DEVELOPMENT LLC TO COME UP. GOOD EVENING MAYOR, FELLOW COUNCILMAN I AM HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. MY NAME IS CARMINE FERRARO CARMEL DEVELOPMENT LLC. WE DID RECEIVE UNANIMOUS APPROVAL AT THE P&Z BOARD. WE HAVE SUPPORTING STAFF REPORT AND WE WOULD ASSESS THAT YOU WOULD MAKE THE FINAL APPROVAL TONIGHT. I'LL GO BACK AND IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AFTER ANY PUBLIC COMMENT I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING TO ADD FROM STAFF? MAYOR, STAFF IS READY TO TO HELP IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ON THE CASE BUT IT WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. NO PROBLEM. IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE

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THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. WE HAVE ONE CARD SIR FROM MR. BILL BATTIN BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SW. THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'D WANT TO DO THIS RIGHT. BUT MAYBE IN DOUBTING BILL OF COURSE THERE'S A NEGATIVE FOR EVERY POSITIVE. AND THAT'S THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT CLOSE TO THE OFFSET INTERSECTION OF WYOMING DRIVE AND VALKARIA ROAD RIGHT ON BABCOCK.

THEY DON'T ARE NOT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY UNTIL THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE STATION IS GOING TO CREATE HATE AND DISCONTENT. THERE'S NO WAY AROUND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT AND BABCOCK CAN BE EXPANDED AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD THINGS IN THE FUTURE I HOPE IT'S COMING BUT MINE WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION FOR THE COUNCIL. CAN YOU TELL ME SINCE WE'RE THE ONES DOING THE ALIGNMENT ON THOSE TWO STREETS. I THINK. HOW FAR AWAY IS THAT IN THE FUTURE. IS IT GONNA BE DOUBLE WIDE AT EACH INTERSECTION I HOPE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER CARDS. THAT WAS IT SIR.

OKAY. YOU WANT STAFF TO ADDRESS THAT. I HAVE THE ANSWER BUT I'D LIKE MR. MURPHY TO COME UP AND SHOW US HIS NICE MAP HE'S GOT. OH. WE DID DO OUR HOMEWORK ON THIS ONE. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL SO I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH BREVARD COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THERE IS A DESIGN TO REALIGN THE INTERSECTION. IT DOES OFFSET RIGHT NOW AND THEY PURCHASED THREE LOTS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF WYOMING WEST OF BABCOCK IN NOVEMBER OF 2015. SO IT'S GOING TO CURVE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE STRAIGHTENED OUT. THEY HAVE ALREADY THE FUNDING IN PLACE FOR DESIGNS APPROVED. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING CONTRACTOR THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT LET'S GO THEN.  AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AS COUNCIL FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 19 - 0 8. NEED A SECOND. SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCIL. IF NOT I'M GONNA CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS. BIDS.

OK. REPORTS. COMMITTEE REPORT SPACE COAST

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TRANSPORTATION TPO. I'LL LET YOU. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE GOT OUT OF THAT WAS APRIL 16TH IS THE DEADLINE FOR ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT THE CITY WOULD WANT TO ADD TO THE TPO LIST. OTHER THAN THAT WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT ITMS WHICH IS INTEGRATED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. IT'S INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS SO WE ALL GOT TO PLAY AROUND WITH A LOT OF HEAVY EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT AND SEE WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE TRAFFIC HUB. SO THAT WAS THE BULK OF OUR MEETING BUT AGAIN COUNCIL IF YOU GUYS WANT TO PRIORITIZE ANYTHING ON THE NEW SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION LIST THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE APRIL 16TH I THINK RIGHT NOW THE ONLY MAJOR PROJECT ON THERE IS THE PARKWAY. SO WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT MALABAR ROAD AS A COUNCIL AND SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY STATE OR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THAT. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON BECAUSE I WASN'T THERE BECAUSE OF BECAUSE OF ILLNESS BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF ON THAT PRIORITY LIST THAT THE ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY WAS STILL AT THE TOP BECAUSE I REMEMBER WE WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT BETWEEN ME AND THE COMMISSIONER [INAUDIBLE] MAKING SURE THAT STAYS UP THERE AS OPPOSED TO BEING PUSHED DOWN. JUST WONDERING IF THAT THAT WAS THE CASE. IT IS STILL CURRENTLY BUT WE WILL ALL NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE THERE AT THIS NEXT MEETING AND PROBABLY MEETING AFTER THAT BECAUSE OF RE PRIORITIZATION IS GONNA HAPPEN AND IF WE DON'T HAVE GOOD CITY REPRESENTATION AND COUNTY REPRESENTATION LIKE WE DID LAST TIME WE COULD CERTAINLY SEE THAT THE NASA CAUSEWAY IS A BIG ITEM OF DISCUSSION SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THAT TO BE REPAIRED BUT THEY'RE GETTING STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS ALREADY. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THAT NUMBER ONE SLOT. THANK YOU. THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE. BASICALLY THE CONVERSATIONS STOOD AROUND THE HOME RULE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE PAYING ATTENTION TO THE BILLS THAT ARE BEING THAT HAVE BEEN DRAFTED AND HOW THEY'RE GOING THROUGH COMMITTEE AND TO CALL YOUR DELEGATION THAT WAS MOST OF THE DISCUSSION. TDC. WITH TDC. FIRST THINGS THAT COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS WERE MADE BY EACH MEMBER OF THE OF THE COUNCIL AND ALSO THE COMMITTEE CHAIRS WERE APPOINTED BY THE TDC CHAIR MR. [INAUDIBLE] AS YOU ALL KNOW I WAS APPOINTED AS THE CHAIR OF THE SPORTS COMMITTEE. ANNA PALERMO WAS APPOINTED MARKETING ANDREA 

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YOUNG COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW YOUNG CULTURAL COMMITTEE LAURA LEE THOMPSON TO THE BEACH COMMITTEE AND GILES MALONE FROM SPACE COAST DAILY ON THE CAPITAL FACILITIES BEACH. THERE WAS A BEACH RE NOURISHMENT UPDATE. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT PATRICK AIR FORCE BASE WILL BE CONTINUING THEIR RE NOURISHING OF THE BEACHES AS OPPOSED TO BUILDING A SEAWALL. SO THAT'S THAT'S GREAT NEWS BECAUSE IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING AS THE UPDATE WAS GIVEN THAT THEY COULD PRETTY MUCH DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND THAT THEY CHOSE TO RENOURISH TO THEIR BEACHES. SO THAT THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD NEWS. AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION THE CREATION OF A MATRIX FOR CREATING A MATRIX OF MEASURABLE ANALYTICS WAS BROUGHT UP AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK ANNA PALERMO WHO IS FROM SPECTRUM AND HAS A BACKGROUND IN MARKETING AND HAS BEEN APPOINTED TO THE TO THE CHAIR OF THE MARKETING COMMITTEE IS GOING TO IT'S GOING TO START WORKING ON AND THAT WILL HELP US TO DETERMINE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR EACH EVENT THAT THAT WE INVEST THESE TDC DOLLARS TOWARDS. SO OTHER THAN THAT THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE NEXT WEEK THURSDAY MARCH 28. IT'S BEEN MOVED FROM THE 27TH TO THE 28TH SAME TIME 2:00 P.M. SAME PLACE AT THE VIERA HOLIDAY INN AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THE PALM BAY HOSPITAL. I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT BOARD EVEN EXIST ANYMORE. WE'RE NOT GETTING VERY GOOD ANSWERS OR FEEDBACK FROM PALM BAY HOSPITAL WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK OUR CONTACTS SO I WILL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS I KNOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO COUNCIL REPORTS. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YES MAYOR. I'M GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE. THAT'S FINE. OK. ALL RIGHT. OK. THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT MY LIFE I'VE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL ESPECIALLY REGARDING BEING A LEADER. I'VE LEARNED THAT SOME LEADERS DO IT FOR PRAISE SOME SOLICIT IT AND SOME ARE AFRAID OF DOING WHAT'S RIGHT BASED OFF YOU KNOW DISPUTE OR SOME KICKBACK FROM IT. I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE LEADERS. AND SINCE A YEAR AGO WHEN I SAID I WAS GONNA RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL I PROMISE I'LL BRING HONESTY INTEGRITY AND TRANSPARENCY BACK TO THIS CITY. AND I FEEL LIKE I'VE DONE A GREAT JOB ALONG WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE MANAGEMENT ON DOING SO. AND A LOT OF IT ARE DECISIONS AND THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITHIN THE PAST FOUR MONTHS. AND I WILL STAND BY THAT. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY YOU KNOW TO MY EAR AND TO MY. YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO ME THAT THERE'S ENTITIES OUT THERE THAT WERE TRYING TO DISCREDIT MY CHARACTER AND TRYING TO DISCREDIT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO FOR THE CITY AND MY DECISION MAKING AND I'M NOT GOING TO ENTERTAIN THAT. BUT I WILL SAY THIS THERE'S DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BEFORE I WAS CITY COUNCILMAN AND THE DECISIONS THAT I MADE WHILE CITY COUNCILMAN. I DID IT FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY. BEFORE EVERY DECISION BEFORE I LEAVE MY CAR WAS JUST PARKED OUT THERE. I SAY A PRAYER AND I PRAY THAT I DO THE RIGHT THING AND I'M ABLE TO GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT FOR EVERY DECISION I MAKE. IT MAY NOT BE THE RIGHT DECISION THAT NIGHT. IT MAY BE THE RIGHT DECISION. I KNOW I TRUST IN GOD AND WHAT I DO AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO FOR THIS CITY. OTHER THAN THAT. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ACCESSIBLE DURING THE CAMPAIGN. THERE'S PEOPLE WANTED TO TALK TO ME ON A REGULAR BASIS I MADE SURE I PROVIDED MY NUMBER. ALL THE WAY UP TO WHEN I WAS SWORN IN I PROVIDED MY NUMBER IN WHICH ONCE I WAS SWORN IN AND RECEIVED MY CELL PHONE MY CITY ISSUED CELL PHONE NUMBER. I PUT THAT ON THE WEBSITE PUT THAT ON MY FACEBOOK AND WAS HAPPY TO BE CALLED AND TEXTED BY SO MANY PEOPLE IN REGARDS TO ANYTHING JUST PUBLIC WORKS THEIR ROADS. IT DOESN'T MATTER. BUT I WAS REACHED OUT TO AND I APPRECIATED THAT. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THAT. BREVARD'S GOT TALENT WHICH BREVARD'S GOT TALENT AND THERE WAS A FEW PEOPLE THERE WHO WANTED TO SPEAK WITH ME. THERE'S TWO BROTHERS 18 AND 15 YEAR OLD.

THEY SPOKE WITH ME AND THEY SAID THEY SAW HOW MY ELECTION WAS RAN AND THAT THEY THEY'RE INSPIRED TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL THEMSELVES. I SAID HEY IT IS A TOUGH ROAD.

IT IS GOING TO GET TOUGHER. BELIEVE ME I TALKED TO HAD LUNCH WITH THEM THIS MORNING. 11:30. AND I WAS ENCOURAGED AND THEY ENCOURAGED ME. THEY INSPIRED ME. SO I WAS I WAS LIKE MAN THIS. SEE THIS IS WHAT WE DO IT FOR. THIS IS WHAT WE SHOULD DO IT FOR. AND JUST EARLIER I WAS CALLED BY MR. HE WOULDN'T MIND ME SAYING HIS NAME. WELL I WON'T SAY HIS NAME BUT HE CALLED ME TO COME OUT TO PINE TREE AVENUE OFF OF [INAUDIBLE] OVER LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO TO WEST MELBOURNE. AND I SAT THERE AND I SPOKE TO HIM SPOKE TO SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE SO I'M ACCESSIBLE. IT'S JUST WHETHER YOU WANT TO YOU KNOW REACH OUT TO ME OR NOT AND I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU MANY TIMES BUT I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO HAVE REACHED OUT AND IF YOU HAVEN'T REACHED OUT YET IF YOU WANT MY CITY ISSUE CELL PHONE NUMBER MY NUMBER'S 3 2 1 4 7 4 0 1 8 3 I'LL REPEAT THAT ONE MORE TIME IS 3 2 1 4 7 4 0 1 1 8 3. OTHER THAN THAT I'M NEW TO

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THIS PAST FOUR MONTHS. YOU KNOW I'VE BEEN ON CITY COUNCIL BUT I'VE LEARNED A LOT.

I'VE LEARNED A LOT IN REGARDS TO TENURE AND WHAT YOU KNOW POLITICS SHOULD ENTAIL AND WHAT IT SHOULDN'T ENTAIL AND SOMETIMES I HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH MY LOVED ONES AND PEOPLE WHO YOU KNOW I LOOK UP TO AND PEOPLE WHO I FEEL ARE MENTORS TO ME AND THOSE DISCUSSIONS SOMETIMES QUESTIONS ARE RAISED AND SOMETIMES YOU KNOW THEY'RE THERE THERE'S RECOURSE THAT ONCE THAT HAPPENED. BUT THERE'S A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING. AND THIS WEEK WASN'T THE TIME OR PLACE AND FOR THAT I APOLOGIZE. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT WHAT SOME OF THOSE MENTORS AND LOVED ONES TAUGHT ME WAS HOW TO CARRY MYSELF HOW TO CONDUCT MYSELF. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS TAUGHT AT AN EARLY AGE AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO LONG AFTER ALMOST CITY COUNCIL AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF. THERE'S PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT ME AND I LOVE THEM BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY FOR THEM TO SUPPORT YOU. AND I KNOW THEY'RE DOING THAT AND I KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT OUT OF LOVE. I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND I'D LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS DIAS TO LET YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO AND I WANT TO SPEAK ON LOGIC AND NOT EMOTIONS. THAT'S WHY I TOOK MY TIME IN REGARDS TO RESPONDING TO CERTAIN THINGS OR REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE TO LET THEM KNOW OTHER THAN THAT I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW ALSO THAT WHILE OTHERS ARE FOCUSED ON ME JUST KNOW I'M FOCUSED ON THE CITY I WILL CONTINUE TO BE FOCUSED ON THE CITY LONG AFTER I'M ON HERE. I'VE DONE IT LONG BEFORE. I'M GOING TO DO IT LONG AFTER. AND THAT'S IT IN REGARDS TO THAT AND SPEAKING OF BEING FOCUSED ON THE CITY I HAVE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

LIGHTEN IT UP A LITTLE BIT. BUT MEALS ON WHEELS I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON'S GOING TOMORROW? YEP TOMORROW. AND MAYOR CAPOTE MYSELF WENT ON MONDAY. IT WAS WONDERFUL. IT WAS IT WAS AN EYE OPENER AS WELL BECAUSE YOU CAN'T YOU KNOW I CAME TO THE REALIZATION THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS ABLE TO HAVE THE MEALS THAT WE SEE AS YOU KNOW JUST COMMON. SO IT WAS EYE OPENING. BUT THE SMILES ON THEIR FACES AND THEY WERE EXCITED SOME OF THEM DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO I WAS. AND SOME OF THEM DID KNOW WHO I WAS SO THAT WAS YOU KNOW THAT FELT GOOD TOO. BUT I ENJOY THAT. OTHER THAN THAT OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS PAST WEDNESDAY I MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY CITY MANAGEMENT CHIEF ROGERS DEPUTY CHIEF MOYA AND WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION. REGARDS TO POSSIBLY DOING SOMETHING WITHIN THE CITY WHICH I'M GOING TO PUSH FOR IT AND I'M DOING IN APRIL THAT'S ISSUING OR BRING BEFORE COUNCIL A MARIJUANA CIVIL CITATION. OKAY WE CANNOT AS A CITY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA. I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER TO DO SO. SO I'M MAKING THAT CLEAR WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AN EXTRA TOOL BOX IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING CERTAIN ISSUES.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM BECAUSE I WILL NOT JEOPARDIZE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AT ALL FOR ANY REASON. SO BEFORE I BROUGHT IT BEFORE Y'ALL I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SPOKE WITH THEM AND SPOKE TO THE CHIEF LIEUTENANT BLAND AS WELL AS DEPUTY CHIEF MOYA TO MAKE SURE WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND I BELIEVE WE ARE. AND THEY SAY THEY'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PROVIDE THE FACTS AND NUMBERS IN REGARDS TO THIS ORDINANCE AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO ON FUNDS THAT ARE COLLECTED FROM THE CITATION WHICH I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP EVERYBODY INCLUDED ON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THINGS SUCH AS THE OPIATE EPIDEMIC. SO THOSE FUNDS I'D LIKE TO SEE US DEDICATE THEM TO A 501(C)2 OF OUR CHOOSING COUNCIL. AND YOU KNOW ENCOURAGE DRUG REHAB DRUG EDUCATION I THINK THAT'LL BE A GOOD STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION OF ADDRESSING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON ALL ACROSS THE NATION. I FEEL THE CITY OF PALM BAY CAN YOU KNOW KILL TWO BIRDS ONE STONE. OTHER THAN THAT HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND I THIS IS GONNA BE A WHILE. I TALKED ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY BUT YOU KNOW IT JUST ADDED SOME MORE FUN TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE US TRY TO GET A SPLASH PAD HERE I SPOKE TO HER AND ONE LOCATION WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL. WHY NOT, WHERE YOU HAVE THE MUSEUM AND EVERYTHING. WE HAVE THE LIBRARY RIGHT OVER HERE. IS IT YOU KNOW IS IT CAN BE WALKED TO WE'VE GOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT THERE SO NOBODY'S GOING TO GET RUN OVER ANYTHING BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO GET THE YOUTH AND NOT JUST THE YOUTH BUT THE PARENTS CLOSER TO CITY HALL CLOSER TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND I THINK THAT'S A FUN WAY TO DO IT. LASTLY BUT NOT LEAST I'M EXCITED BECAUSE WE HAD A MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO. MR. FRED POPPE AND THE REST OF THE STAFF REGARDS OUR VETERANS DAY PARADE THAT WE WILL BE HAVING. THIS IS GONNA BE THE INAUGURAL VETERANS DAY PARADE BECAUSE I WANT TO KEEP IT GOING YEAR AND A YEAR OUT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO. BUT IT'S HAPPENING NOW. WE'RE GETTING TOGETHER WITH ALL THE POSTS AT THE POST 138 AND EVERYBODY THE VFW SAYS WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE SHOW OUR VETERANS THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM AND BEING THE LARGEST CITY I FEEL LIKE WE OWE IT TO THEM. ESPECIALLY WITH A LOT OF THE RIGHT RETIREES AND PEOPLE THAT MOVE FROM NEW YORK AND ALL

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OVER. GOTCHA [INAUDIBLE]. NEW YORK AND ALL OVER. SO WITH THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO FOR THE CITY AND LET'S GET TO IT. THANK YOU. OK COUNCILMAN BAILEY MAYORS, GIVE EVERYBODY TIME TO DIGEST A LOT GOING ON THERE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WE AS WE KNOW WE HAD THE ITEM REMOVED TONIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND I JUST THINK THIS CAN BE REALLY IMPORTANT AS WE CONSIDER THIS GOING FORWARD THAT I HOPE COUNCIL KEEPS A CLOSE EYE THAT WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF PERFORMANCE BENCHMARKS AND WHATEVER COMES BACK BEFORE US. I THINK THAT IT'S GOOD TO BE A PARTNER IT'S GOOD FOR US TO WE WANT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE IS OPPOSED TO THAT BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WE'RE GETTING THE EQUAL PROTECTIONS WHENEVER WE GIVE OUT ANY TYPE OF OTHER INCENTIVE SUCH AS  ABATEMENTS. WE'VE ALWAYS HAD PERFORMANCE MEASURES TO PROTECT THE CITY AND HAVE PROTECTED US IN THE CASE OF THE MOST RECENT ONE WHICH WAS OAKRIDGE GLOBAL. AND NOBODY IS COMPARING THE NEW DEVELOPER WITH OAKRIDGE GLOBAL SAYING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE SAME THING. NOBODY ANTICIPATES THAT OR WANTS THAT. BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT IT'S IT'S COMMON TO ME MAKES JUST COMMON SENSE THAT WE DO SO. SO I'M JUST HOPING THE COUNCIL KEEPS THAT IN MIND AND CONSIDERS THAT IN WHENEVER WE BRING FORWARD NEXT. OTHER THAN THAT I DID WANT TO ANNOUNCE AN APPOINTMENT. I'M GOING TO I HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE REALLY I THINK WANT TO SERVE BUT I WANT TO POINT DONNY FELIX TO THE P&Z HE'S ALREADY SERVING AS A SCHOOL BOARD LIAISON THERE SO HE'S ALREADY AT THOSE MEETINGS AND FAMILIAR. SO I'M GOING TO APPOINT HIM TO THAT COMMITTEE TONIGHT AND BEYOND THAT I DID WANT TO ALSO ANNOUNCE IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE PARKS REC ADVISORY BOARD PLEASE REACH OUT TO ME. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS GOING ON LAST WEEK AND UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE ANY OF THOSE THINGS. YOU KNOW I WAS OUT SICK AND SO YOU KNOW I'M SURE THERE WERE PEOPLE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR ME AND UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT TO ANYTHING. ANY ANY OF THE EVENTS THAT WERE GOING ON BUT BUT BUT NEVERTHELESS I DO. THERE WAS ONE THAT I DID WAS IT WAS ABLE TO MAKE IT IT WAS THIS WEEK AND THAT WAS THE TURKEY CREEK PAST PRESENT RESTORATION MEETING. HE'S NOT HERE TODAY BUT I WANTED TO THANK ROBERT BURNS AGAIN FOR CREATING THAT VIDEO AND ALSO OF OUR COUNTY THEY ALSO CREATED A VIDEO AS WELL OF TURKEY CREEK AND IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. DON'T KNOW IF YOU GOT TO SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES THAT I PUT OUT THERE ON FACEBOOK BUT IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. STAFF WAS THERE STRONG AS WELL. AND IT WAS A LOT OF AGAIN MORE GREAT INFORMATION MORE EDUCATION EDUCATING THE PUBLIC. THERE WERE FOLKS THERE THAT THEY HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON. AND NOW THEY DO. AND NOW THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO BECOME MORE ACTIVE ON STAYING ON TOP OF TURKEY CREEK AND OUR ESTUARIES AS YOU KNOW I BELIEVE REPRESENTATIVE FINE HAS MENTIONED THAT THE BILL CONCERNING TURKEY CREEK HOUSE BILL 4 6 9 9 I BELIEVE HAS PASSED THE PASS ONE OF THE COMMITTEES THERE. SO. SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO BASICALLY GET A FEASIBILITY FEASIBILITY STUDY WHICH WILL HELP US TO MOVE FORWARD TO DO A MASTERPLAN FOR TURKEY CREEK AND THAT'S GOING TO HELP US TO TO BRING RESTORATION TO THE CREEK. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT. I'M EXCITED ABOUT MORE SO ABOUT THE FACT THAT OUR PUBLIC OUR CITIZENS OUR RESIDENTS ARE GETTING MORE ACTIVE THERE. OTHER THAN THAT I ALSO WANTED TO THANK MR. SHONKWILER FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND EXPRESSING HIS CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY. AND I ASSURE YOU YOU KNOW THE CITY WOULD LOVE TO JUST CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH YOU AS WELL. AND I WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP BECAUSE I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE I BROUGHT THIS UP MANY TIMES BEFORE PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION. AND AND I BROUGHT IT UP AGAIN. AND SO YOU KNOW MRS. MORRELL KNOWS WHERE I'M ABOUT TO GO IN. AND ALSO MRS. [INAUDIBLE] AND THAT IS I HAVE BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF AN INCENTIVE WORKSHOP AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE NEED TO SET THESE POLICIES FORWARD AND WE NEED TO SET THEM IN STONE AND HAVE AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT WAY EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT KIND OF INCENTIVES THAT WE AS A COUNCIL ARE ARE WILLING TO PROVIDE AND AND BRING FORWARD. AND SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS

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ARE DONE YOU KNOW JUST BY STAFF ALONE THAT CAN BRING UP QUESTIONS AND QUESTIONS CAN BRING UP THIS TRUST. SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW SOME OF THE CHATTER THAT WAS GOING OUT THERE PUBLICLY BECAUSE WHEN WHEN THINGS ARE DONE YOU KNOW SORT OF OBSCURITY AND THEN BROUGHT UP AND YOU KNOW AND IT'S AND IT'S MISUNDERSTOOD IT CAN BE TAKEN OUT OF PROPORTION. SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT BUT ONE THING THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR AND I HOPE WE CAN GET THIS SOON IS AN INCENTIVE WORKSHOP BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THAT OPEN AND TRANSPARENT AND OUT IN THE PUBLIC THEN EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS. YOU KNOW WHAT A POTENTIAL DEVELOPER IS GETTING AND WHY. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS TO SET FORWARD. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT COUNCIL WILL AGREE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AND IF YOU WOULD. IT'S JUST A SIMPLE WAVE OF THE WAND AND LET STAFF KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO THAT WE WOULD LIKE SOONER THAN LATER. MY SUPPORT. OK. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST TOWN HALL MEETING WAS BROUGHT UP HERE. I DON'T WANT TO I WANT TO STATE THAT THE HAAB THE THE HAITIAN AMERICAN ASSOCIATION IN [INAUDIBLE] THEY'RE HOLDING A TOWN HALL MEETING ON APRIL 6TH BETWEEN 3:00 AND 6:00 OR I WILL BE PART OF THAT TOWN HALL MEETING SO I'LL I'LL GET THAT OUT PUBLICLY AT SOME POINT. AND YOU KNOW IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND IT'S OPEN TO ALL SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANKS. DEPUTY MAYOR I THOUGHT JANUARY AND FEBRUARY WERE BUSY BUT IT'S TURNED OUT MARCH IS PRETTY BUSY TOO SO I'LL JUST TRY TO RUN THROUGH THIS A LITTLE FASTER THAN MR. JOHNSON DID OVER HERE. FIRST THINGS FIRST ON WORKSHOPS I NOTICED THAT ALL OF APRIL AND MAY ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 21ST ALL THE TUESDAYS ARE EMPTY. SO IF WE CAN LOOK AT THAT HOMELESS ONE AND TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT SITUATION AND SEE WHO OUR CONTACT FOR OUR NONPROFIT PROVIDER IS GOING TO BE. SO HOPEFULLY STAFF CAN FIND SOMETHING BY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. I WANT TO THANK THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN THE MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON FOR THE MARCH FOR MEALS TH KICK OFF WAS GREAT AND THEN YOU GUYS OUT THERE ACTUALLY DELIVERING THE MEALS IS FANTASTIC. I'LL BE DOING THAT TOMORROW SO AGING MATTERS. THANK YOU FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE ARE THE CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLY SO THE FACT THAT WE CAN GET OUT THERE AND TAKE SOME TIME OUT OF OUR BUSY SCHEDULES AND DO SOMETHING FOR THE COMMUNITY IS AWESOME. I WANTED TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR LETTING ME READ THE PROCLAMATION AT THE AMERICAN LEGION.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I WERE THERE THEY KEPT HOUNDING HIM ABOUT THE PARADE SO I KNOW THAT'S WHY HE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS BUT THEY WERE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL AND SAID THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SPLASH PAD. KENNY I COULDN'T AGREE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. I THINK WE NEED LIKE FOR HIM AROUND HERE BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH A BIG CITY BUT ONE IS A START AND WE GOT TO START SOMEWHERE. THE EVANS CENTER GRAND OPENING WAS PHENOMENAL. THAT WAS GREAT FOR US. RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THE EVANS CENTER IS MACEDONIA AND WE'RE ME AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WERE THERE THEY RENAMED THAT STREET NATHANIEL HARRIS. IT WAS MILL STREET. NOW IT'S REVEREND NATHANIEL HARRIS STREET AND ACTUALLY WHY I BROUGHT THAT UP IS BECAUSE HE'S A PALM BAY RESIDENT. I MEAN ACTUALLY JERRY PHILLIPS TOO SO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO REVEREND BUT HE LIVES HERE. HUM. SO CONGRATULATIONS ON BOTH OF THOSE LITTLE LEAGUE KICKOFF WHICH I KNOW COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO DID NOT WANT TO MISS. YOU KNOW HE HAD THE FLU. VERY BAD. NO I'M GLAD YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE FEELING MUCH BETTER.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON THREW A PERFECT PITCH. HE DID IT BETTER MYSELF. MAYBE I COULD.

THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T DO IT. YOU DEFINITELY DID IT BETTER THAN ME THAT'S FOR SURE. NO. NO SIR. THAT'S WHY THAT'S WHY WE LEFT YOU AT HOME SIR. ONE OF US HAD TO DO IT. SO ANYWAYS MEALS ON WHEELS TOMORROW WE GOT THE WORKSHOP THING THE NEXT TOWN HALL BE THE SECOND TUESDAY AND SECOND THURSDAY AND APRIL AND THEY'VE BEEN PHENOMENAL. THANKS FOR THE CHAMBER FOR LETTING ME DO THAT ONE AND THEN THE LAST TOWN HALL WAS KIND OF JUST ABOUT ME AND RE-ELECTION STUFF WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT HERE AT ALL. SO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. OKAY WITH THAT. I WANT TO SAY THE MEALS ON WHEELS I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE IRISH AMERICAN THAT INVITED ME TO THE PARADE. RODE IN ONE OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS CARS FOR THAT PARADE. WHAT WAS NEXT. I HAD ONE THING IN MY HEAD THERE BUT I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ABOUT IT THAT I OH YESTERDAY RIDING THE BUS THE SCAT RIDE WITH JIM. I DID THAT YESTERDAY. THAT WAS THAT WAS GOOD TO HEAR. THERE WAS A COMBINATION OF SCAT AND THE TOURISTS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THE NEW DIRECTOR THAT HE WAS ON THE TRIP TO TALKING ABOUT THE COMBINATION OF WHY BUSING AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND TOURISM KIND OF GO TOGETHER. SO IT WAS A IT WAS INTERESTING TO GO OUT AND VENTURE AND DO THAT. SO WITH THAT I'M

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GOING TO MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS MRS. SMITH. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019-09

[New Business]

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNTY FLORIDA SUPPORTING THE PASSAGE OF HOUSE BILL NUMBER 1235 AND SENATE BILL NUMBER 16 76 RELATED TO REFORMING PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS A BILL AS MOST OF YOU KNOW BASICALLY SUPPORTING LEGAL NOTICE REFORM. IT WAS IT WAS A BILL THAT WAS FILED BY REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINE. AND THERE'S ALSO A COMPANION BILL IN THE SENATE THAT WOULD BE A SENATE BILL 1675.  AND YOU KNOW I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT PRIOR TO THIS BILL BEING FILED REPRESENTATIVE FINE HAD CALLED UP A BUNCH OF LOCAL OFFICIALS AND WANTED TO SORT OF DO A DEBRIEF OF IT AND GAVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY LOOK YOU KNOW IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THIS YOU DON'T YOU DON'T LIKE THIS. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SHOW UP AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE. WELL WELL THERE WERE THERE WERE SEVERAL OFFICIALS THERE FROM FROM SEVERAL CITIES AND FROM YOU KNOW FROM ALL DEMOGRAPHICS AND ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND WE ALL WALKED OUT TOGETHER. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE CERTAINLY DID COME OUT IN UNITY AND SUPPORT IT WE THOUGHT THAT IT'S A GOOD BILL THAT CONTINUES TO SUPPORT HOME RULE AND GIVES MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES MORE CONTROL OVER THEIR BUDGET AND OVER THE WAY THEY COMMUNICATE LEGAL NOTICES. SO I THINK IT'S A I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD BILL LIKE ANY OTHER BILL IS GOING TO YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW IT'S IN COMMITTEE. IT'S GONE ALONG PRETTY WELL.

AND LIKE ANY BILL IT'S IT'S OBVIOUSLY PROBABLY GOING TO BE MODIFIED HERE AND THERE BEFORE IT HITS THE FLOOR. BUT I WOULD HOPE TO GET MAYOR AND COUNCIL SUPPORT ON THIS AND AND MOVE FORWARD. ANY CARDS. STEVE HADLEY. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ BUT IT'S HEADLEY THING THAT SITS ON YOUR SHOULDERS. L-E-Y. GET IT RIGHT NEXT TIME. NO PROBLEM NO PROBLEM. I'M JUST WE'RE JOKING WITH EACH OTHER HOPEFULLY. YES SIR.

SCUSE ME A SECOND. WRONG GLASSES. STEVE HEADLEY STILL A RESIDENT THAT MOVED IN LAST HOUR.

WHEN REPRESENTATIVE FINE STOOD WITH ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE TO ANNOUNCE THIS BILL NO ONE COULD ANSWER TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST HOW MUCH EXACTLY DID MUNICIPALITY STATE AND COUNTY GOVERNMENTS SPEND ON PUBLIC NOTICES. AND SECONDLY HOW MUCH WOULD THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS BILL COST THOSE SAME GOVERNMENTS. ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION THE CITY SPENT 34,686 DOLLARS ON PUBLIC NOTICES LAST YEAR. TO LOOK AT THE COST OF THE PROPOSED BILL ONE MUST LOOK AT THE LARGEST COST THAT REQUIRED MAILERS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR EACH NOTICE. ASSUME THAT A MEASLY 1 PERCENT OF 78000 PALM BAY VOTERS WANTED TO BE NOTIFIED BY MAIL.

THAT'S A MERE 780 PEOPLE. BULK MAILING RATES ARE 38.3 CENTS PER PIECE AND THE MAILERS THEMSELVES ARE AT LEAST 19 CENTS. THAT MEANS FOR EACH REQUIRED NOTICE THE CITY CAN EXPECT TO PAY 447 DOLLARS. IN TONIGHT'S AGENDA THERE ARE NEEDS FOR 8 NOTICES WHICH IS 3,575.52 CENTS.

EXPAND THAT OVER OUT OVER TWO MEETINGS A MONTH NOT INCLUDING OTHER NOTICES AND YOU HAVE 85,812 DOLLARS PER YEAR. EVEN WITH ONE HALF OF 1 PERCENT WANTING MAILERS WE ARE STILL ABOVE THE THIRTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS SPENT LAST YEAR AND THAT'S BEFORE WE EVEN TALK ABOUT THE COST OF THE LABOR. IT GETS WORSE. UNDER THE BILL YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY EITHER A HOST OR TO HOST THE NOTICES OR PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO HOST THE NOTICES ELECTRONICALLY.

CURRENTLY A DATABASE OF NOTICES IS MAINTAINED BY THE NEWSPAPERS AT NO ADDITIONAL COST. IN SHORT THE CITY INCURS ADDITIONAL MAILING COSTS BY PAYING THE PAPERS TO HOST THE NOTICES BUT ENCOURAGE COSTS TO HOST TO PAY SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU EVEN THINK THAT YOU WERE DONE YOU STILL HAVEN'T REACHED EVERYBODY. THEN WHEN YOU ADD THE FACT THAT EACH GOVERNMENT WOULD BE ON A DIFFERENT PLAN AND SITES REQUIRING THE AVERAGE CITIZEN TO LOOK AT ONE PLACE FOR NOTICES ABOUT PALM BAY AND ANOTHER PLACE FOR BREVARD COUNTY NOTICES SUCH AS HEARINGS ON THE LAGOON YOU HAVE A PROTOTYPICAL GOVERNMENT PLAN THAT CYNICS ALWAYS TALK ABOUT LESS TRANSPARENCY BASED ON A PLAN THAT IS MORE EXPENSIVE AND DOES LESS.

GREAT IDEA. BILL BATTIN. BILL BATTIN. 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SW. I AGREE WITH THE

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STATEMENT. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S FINANCIALLY SOUND BUT BILL BATTIN BEING BILL BATTIN IF IT PROCEEDS AND PASSES I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT MY NAME IS ON THAT FREE MAILER SUBSCRIPTION SO I CAN STAY INFORMED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN PALM BAY AND HOW DO I GET MY NAME ON THAT LIST. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BILL. THAT WAS IT. OKAY. ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT LISA? NO SIR. OK.

SO. MAKER? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019-0 9 SUPPORTING THE PASSAGE OF HOUSE BILL NUMBER 1235 AND SENATE BILL NUMBER 1676 RELATING RELATED TO REFORMING PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. SECOND MY DEPUTY MAYOR. JUST TO GO OUT THERE UNDER ITS CURRENT STATE AND STUFF AND I'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS AND THE NUMBERS THAT WHERE PERCENTAGED IN REGARDS TO HOW MUCH IT WOULD SAVE AND IT DOESN'T ADD UP. SO FOR THE SAME DISCUSSION THAT THAT BILL AND MR. HENLEY CORRECT? HEADLEY. OKAY STATED.

OKAY. HEADLEY. OK. SO OK. I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS. SO BUT IF IT PASSES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT. BUT I DON'T THINK IT'SSOMETHING THAT AS IT WAS PRESENTED THE NUMBERS DON'T DON'T ADD UP. IT COULD WIND UP COSTING US MORE MONEY GO IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. SO THAT'S MY MY TAKE. SO IT'S LIKE I SAY ANY ANYBODY ON THIS DIAS HAS HAS THE RIGHT TO INTRODUCE THINGS IS AND I'LL JUST SIT ON THAT. YEAH YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. I MEAN THAT DID COME UP AS A POINT OF CONCERN AS WELL. BUT I DON'T THINK IT CAME UP TOO MUCH OF A CONCERN BECAUSE I MEAN LET'S FACE IT MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING ONLINE TO FIND OUR INFORMATION THEY'RE GOING ON THE WEB THEY'RE GOING ON SOCIAL MEDIA THEY'RE GOING ON ON BASICALLY ON THE INTERNET. AND I THINK THAT'S YOU KNOW AS A MATTER OF FACT THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL THERE THAT SAID YOU KNOW LOOK IF IF IF WE WERE TO MISS A LEGAL NOTICE YOU KNOW WE HARDLY GET ANY CALLS. IF WE WERE TO MISS A LEGAL NOTICE ON A NEWSPAPER WHAT IF WE DIDN'T PUT IT UP ON OUR WEBSITE. WE GET TONS OF PHONE CALLS. AND SO I THINK IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT I MEAN WHERE WE'RE GOING AT RIGHT NOW. I MEAN WE'RE WE'RE IN 2019. MOST PEOPLE ARE ONLINE. SO IF AGAIN IT DOESN'T GIVE. IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO PUT THIS IN NEWSPAPERS OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW ALL IT DOES IT JUST GIVES US MORE OPTIONS. BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEING KICKED AROUND IN COMMITTEE AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU KNOW LIKE LIKE THE THE LAST RESOLUTION IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED IN NEW BUSINESS NUMBER SIX IT PROBABLY GONNA BE MODIFIED TO THE POINT WHERE IT WILL BECOME MORE PALATABLE. BUT I LIKE THE BILL AT LEAST IN CONCEPT BECAUSE IT GIVES US AS MUNICIPALITIES MORE HOME RULE AND MORE CONTROL. ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD JUST SINCE I SECONDED IT JUST FOR FOR ME THIS DOESN'T REINVENT THE WHEEL ON THE SYSTEM BUT BUT OPENS UP THE BOOK. SO YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS OBVIOUSLY IF IT WERE TO COST US 84 THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR WE WOULD PROBABLY JUST STAY WITH EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE. BUT THE BILL WOULD ALLOW US TO DO OTHER THINGS IF IT WAS MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAT WAY. SO I THINK THERE ARE MULTIPLE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO. THE ARGUMENT WAS THAT THERE IS A LOCK ON ONE PARTICULAR MARKET AND THAT THIS MARKET MAY BE KEEPING THIS ENTITY ALIVE AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANT IT SO BAD THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY MY THING IS IT IS ABOUT GETTING THE MESSAGE TO THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THE MESSAGE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE AVERAGE PERSON THAT'S LOOKING FOR A LEGAL NOTICE IS JUST GOING TO ONE PLACE. I WOULD THINK FOR MYSELF THE FIRST PLACE I WOULD GO TO THE CITY WEBSITE. SO FOR ME I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW OUR STAFF WOULDN'T JUST SPEND 84 THOUSAND DOLLARS TO SPEND IT ABOVE THE 34 WE DO NOW.

WHEN I GOT THE 34 NUMBER AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE I WAS A LITTLE TAKEN ABACK BY IT. I KNEW MELBOURNE WAS UNDER THAT. I WAS SURPRISED THAT WE WERE ABOVE THAT.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS ARE THERE ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES SUPPORTING THIS RESOLUTION THAT HAVE MADE A RESOLUTION WITHIN THEIR CITY. YES I CURRENTLY RIGHT NOT MUNICIPALITY BUT RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY IS SUPPORTING A SIMILAR RESOLUTION. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE DOING IT AT THE MOMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. AND WITH THAT

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WITH WITH THESE RESOLUTIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY IT IS ON THEM WHETHER WE SAY YES OR NO IT'S ON THEM. SO THEY THEY REALLY HOLD NO WEIGHT IN A SENSE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO LIKE COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO SAY THEY ARE GOING TO CHANGE MULTIPLE TIMES BEFORE THEY EVEN HIT THE FLOOR BUT MY CONCERNS ARE THE SAME ONES. MR. BATTIN MR. HEADLEY I GOT YOU SIR. THIRD TIME'S A CHARM. BUT THOSE ARE MY SAME CONCERNS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE BUT HOW ARE WE DOING THAT WHEN WE'RE KIND OF YOU KNOW TYING OURSELVES YOU KNOW TIME HAND BEHIND THE BACK AND JUST POSSIBLY ALLOWING MORE SPENT MORE SPENDING TO HAPPEN. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT BUT I WILL SAY THIS. IF IF COUNCIL FEELS LIKE THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION WE SHOULD MOVE THE CITY IN OUT. I'LL LISTEN TO THE COUNCIL BUT I DON'T SEE IT MYSELF. COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

AND THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK THE CONCEPT OF THIS BILL PLEASES ME VERY MUCH. THE IDEA TO ME THE UTOPIA IDEA AND I KNOW GOVERNMENT DOESN'T ALWAYS GET TO THAT POINT VERY WELL BUT ESPECIALLY THE FARTHER UP YOU GET AND THERE'S MORE PERSONALITIES THAT ARE NOW PAYING ATTENTION TO IT AND INFLUENCING THE BILL.

BUT THE PERFECT REALITY WOULD BE I THINK A COUNTY SITE RAN BY THE CLERKS OF COURTS AND THAT EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY WOULD POST THERE AND THAT WOULD BE THE CHECKS AND BALANCES. NOW IF THAT INVOLVED US PAYING A SMALL AMOUNT TO THEM RATHER THAN A PRIVATE PRIVATE ONE BUT IT'S A PUBLIC ONE THAT'S PROVIDING THAT SERVICE WHICH I IMAGINE UNDER THIS BILL THEY COULD DO THAT BUT EVERYBODY OPPOSED TO THE CLERK OF COURT SITE AND WHAT WOULD BE AMAZING ABOUT THAT FOR FOLKS BECAUSE USUALLY YOU'RE NOT WATCHING JUST YOUR OWN CITY YOU'RE WATCHING MORE THAN ONE CITY BUT YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR SOME TYPE OF NOTIFICATION SYSTEM AND IT'D BE UNIFORM THROUGHOUT THE STATE. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE DO YOU GO FOR PUBLIC NOTICE. GO TO CLERK COURTS WEBSITE.

OK WELL WHAT IF I FORGET TO DO IT WELL I CAN SIGN UP FOR AUTOMATIC EMAIL NOTIFICATION. THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY. TO ME THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE I AGREE THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO BE HEADING SOMEWHERE TO ME THAT'S IF I WAS GOING TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID I ACTUALLY HAD A DISCUSSION THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WHENEVER A CONSTITUENT SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT COMMENTS AND SOME OF HIS COMMENTS KIND OF CAME BACK TO WELL WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET GETS GETS ACCESS TO A NOTICE WHICH THE PAPER MAY OR MAY NOT PROVIDE THAT THIS TIME DEPENDS ON  IF THEY GET THE PAPER NOT DEPENDS ON WHICH PAPER THEY GET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT IN A PARTICULAR PAPER. NOW THERE'S A PRESUMPTION THAT YOU WOULD LOOK IN FLORIDA TODAY.

WE CAN ALSO PUT IT IN TRADER JACKS SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES CURRENTLY AND I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME ISSUES AND BUGS TO BE WORKED OUT IN THE PROPOSAL. BUT HERE'S MY QUESTION. DOES THE BILL SAYS AND FORGIVE ME COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO BECAUSE I THINK THIS QUESTION DEVELOPED LISTENING TO EVERYBODY ELSE FIRST. IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND TO LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE IT SAYS THE PROPOSED BILLS ELIMINATE THE REQUIREMENT FOR LEGAL NOTICES OF PUBLIC ADVERTISING TO BE PUBLISHED IN NEWSPAPERS AND PROVIDE THE PUBLICATION NOTICES AND ADVERTISEMENTS ON A STATE OR A LOCAL AGENCY'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE OR A PRIVATE SITE THAT IS ACCESSIBLE VIA THE INTERNET.

SO WHAT I'M AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS ANSWER COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO OR PERHAPS MAYBE YOU'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ON IT. DO WE KNOW IF IT WILL STILL ALLOW US TO CHOOSE. NOW IF WE FIND IT TO BE COSTLY TO GO TOWARDS THAT ROUTE AND HAVE TO SIGN PEOPLE UP FOR MAIL MAILERS TO THE HOME COULD WE CHOOSE TO USE THE PUBLIC NOTICE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU AT THIS MOMENT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT. LIKE I SAID YOU KNOW THE BILL IS IN ITS INFANCY AND RIGHT NOW IS BEEN KICKED AROUND FOR ONE COMMITTEE TO ANOTHER AND BACK RIGHT NOW TO THE FEDERAL VETERANS AFFAIRS COMMITTEE. SO I AM NOT I'M NOT PARTICULARLY SURE OF THAT TO THE ANSWER OF THAT QUESTION. AND MS SMITH WOULD IT BE OUT OF DECORUM FOR IF WE COULD WE TABLE THIS TO THE END OF THE MEETING MAYBE THE LAST ITEM AND ASK IF ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS COULD LOOK THAT UP. MS. SMITH I'M JUST MAKING SURE I'M NOT BREAKING ANY THE RULES THE COUNCIL RULES PROCEDURES. I'M JUST ASKING.

CAN WE TABLE THIS TO THE END OF THE MEETING AND THEN HEAR THEN. THE CLERK. BUT I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT AS LONG AS THE MAYOR ACTUALLY WAS IN AGREEMENT. IT'S OK.

YES. COUNCILMAN DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM DOING THAT. AT THE END OF THE DAY I MEAN WE HAVE TIME. YOU WANT TO HOW DOES COUNCIL FEEL. I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE IF COUNCIL DOESN'T

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HAVE AN ISSUE. YOU BASICALLY WANT TO TABLE TO THE END. OF THE TONIGHT'S MEETING.

SO AT THE END OF TONIGHT'S MEETING. VERY SHORTLY. YEAH. SWITCH WANT TO SWITCH 16 TO BECOME OR. I MEAN I'M FINE WITH THAT. YEAH SURE. I MEAN IF  STAFF CAN GET BACK WITH THAT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION BY THEN. THE ORIGINAL BILL DID ALLOW YOU TO KEEP YOUR ORIGINAL SYSTEM I DON'T KNOW OF ANY UPDATED CHANGES IN COMMITTEE BUT THE ORIGINAL BILL HE PRESENTED ALLOWED YOU TO KEEP THE OLD SYSTEM. I GET YOUR WHEREAS MAY NOT ADDRESS THAT AND WE MIGHT WANT TO ADD THAT BUT THE ORIGINAL BILL BY REPRESENTATIVE FINE AND THEN THE SENATE COMPANION BILL ALLOWED YOU IF YOU WERE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU WERE DOING YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE. RIGHT. AND THAT I REMEMBER YEAH. AND THIS IS WHERE I KIND OF GONNA TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE OF SITTING UP HERE ELEVEN YEARS OK I KNOW THAT COUNCIL IS TRYING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF BILLS BUT BILLS HAVE TO GO THROUGH COMMITTEES. THEY HAVE TO BE REWRITTEN. SO TO ME IT WOULD BE MORE PRUDENT TO WAIT AND SEE WHERE IT GOES INSTEAD OF JUMPING ON IT RIGHT AWAY. BUT THAT'S MY OPINION IN REGARDS TO DEALING IN THE PAST. WE WEREN'T ENGAGING AS MANY RESOLUTIONS FOR MANY BILLS AS WE ARE DOING NOW. SO I THINK THAT SOMETIMES IF THE BILL IS NOT IN ITS FULL FORM WHY SUPPORT THE BILL IF YOU DON'T AGREE. I'VE SEEN COUNCIL ESPECIALLY PEOPLE ON THIS COUNCIL WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH BUDGET WORKSHOPS AND EVEN TO THE VERY END WHEN WE VOTE ON ON A BUDGET NOT VOTE FOR A BUDGET BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY ON ROADS OR ON THIS OR THAT AND VOTE AGAINST A BUDGET. HERE WE HAVE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE NOT IN ITS FULL FORM WHERE YOU COULD AGREE WITH ALL OF IT BUT YOU WANT TO SUPPORT IT. SO JUST PUT MIND TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A RUNNING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED YET AND IS HAS ROOM FOR DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS. I DON'T THINK IS THE RIGHT TIME TO SUPPORT SOMETHING. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO HIS FULL FORM THAT YOU SAY YOU KNOW I COULD LIVE WITH THAT. THEN I WANT TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT WITH THE BUDGET. WE HAVE AN ENTIRE BUDGET AND BECAUSE OF ONE ITEM ON THE BUDGET PEOPLE HAVE VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET. SO HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT. MY QUESTION IF I MAY. AND LET ME JUST SAY I DO RECALL THAT THE BILL ORIGINALLY DID ALLOW MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTIES TO CONTINUE TO PUBLISH IN NEWSPAPERS IF THEY WANTED TO.

SO BUT AGAIN I DON'T MIND TABLING THIS TO THE END UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT ANSWER BACK FROM THE BILL. SO SO I'M PERFECTLY FINE WITH THAT. OK. WE COULD WE WILL TABLE IT FOR NOW AND GO TO NUMBER TWO. SECOND. OH YOU NEED TO WITHDRAW YOUR MOTION. OK I WITHDRAW MY. MAYOR, NO MOTION IS NEEDED. OH OK. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 2. MRS. MORRELL. IF YOU COULD READ THE RESOLUTION MRS. SMITH. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019 - 10 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA AMMENDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2018-49 NINE AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTION NUMBER 2018-66 ADAPTING THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEARS 2018 THROUGH 2019 THROUGH 2022 THROUGH 2023 THE CITY OF PALM BAY FLORIDA RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO LET THE PERSON WHO PULLED IT OFF FIRST AND THEN I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU. BILL BATTIN YES I FIGURED BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SW I HAVE FIVE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ON THIS I'LL SPEAK RAPIDLY. ITEM NUMBER ONE. HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OVER BUDGETED IN FUNDS. I JUST DID A QUICK CURSORY I DIDN'T CHECK EVERY SINGLE ONE BUT ONE OF THEM WAS A IT WAS A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT OVER FUNDS BUT WE STILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS FOR ROAD FUNDS. I WANT TO SEE IF WE KEEP HAVING THIS TAKE FROM ACCIDENTS TO PAY THAT. WHERE DO WE NORMALLY TAKE FROM IT SEEMS LIKE IT ALWAYS COMES FROM ROADS. SO IF ANYTHING IS AN OVER BUDGET IT DOESN'T COME OFF ROADS. ITEM NUMBER TWO MONEY FROM THE STORMWATER SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR FOR AN EXCAVATOR OR FOR AN EXCAVATOR. ALL RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED EQUIPMENT TO GET WORK DONE. I

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UNDERSTAND THAT 100 PERCENT. YEAH. WE DID NOT USE BOND MONEY TO BUY TRUCKS FOR PAVING OF THE ROAD. IT WAS STILL AN EQUIPMENT INSTEAD WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE TAKE IT OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS. WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE IF WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF SOMETHING OTHER THAN MY GENERAL FUND THAT'S WHERE IT SHOULD COME FROM. MY GENERAL FUND IS ONLY SO BIG. I MEAN SO SMALL. ALL RIGHT. THIS COULD GO TOWARDS MY 7 MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY.

ITEM NUMBER THREE IF THIS TORTOISE RELOCATION IS FOR THE ST. JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY WORK IF THAT'S WHERE IT'S BEING DONE WHERE THE TORTOISE RELOCATION IS AT CITY SHOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR THAT IT SHOULD BE COMING FROM THE FROM THE DEVELOPER WHICH WOULD COVER IT BECAUSE THERE IS CURRENTLY A WILDLIFE MITIGATION BANK THAT SHOULD COVER THAT FUND IT SHOULD NOT BE COMING OUT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND I HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION FOR THAT I WASN'T SURE WHERE THIS TORTOISE RELOCATION IS RIGHT. I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THE NUMBER BUT IT WAS A SOME SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR DRONE FOR THE MAPPING SYSTEM. THIS IS TECHNOLOGY IT WILL BE A FANTASTIC MAN HOURS SAVER PERSONNEL HOURS SAVER IF WE CAN JUST FIND SOMEONE. I HOPE THAT THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY TRANSFER RIGHT INTO GIS SYSTEMS THAT WOULD BE GREAT. AND LAST ONE. NUMBER FIVE LINE ELEVEN FROM PUBLIC WORKS.

43,798 NINETY EIGHT DOLLARS FOR FUTURE PROJECT. ME ME BEING THE DOUBTING TOM THAT I AM.

WHAT'S THAT FUTURE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE TAKE THAT MONEY FOR. THAT'S JUST WHAT I WANT TO KNOW. WE WANT TO BE VIGILANT SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON. LET'S MAKE IT VIGILANT SO WE CAN SEE WHERE IT'S GOING TO. WITH THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BILL. LISA NOT CONFIDENT THAT I ACTUALLY FOLLOWED ALL THAT BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH BILL. I KNOW IT MIGHT TAKE ME A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT TO GO THROUGH BECAUSE MY EYES ARE TIRED AND I'LL BE HONEST. I WILL ADDRESS THE 7 MILLION HOWEVER BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THAT. I THINK YOU AND I AGREE ON THAT. AND DURING THE TUESDAY NIGHT BUDGET WORKSHOP WHICH THANK YOU MR. COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO FOR REFERRING TO THAT THAT GOOD MEETING BECAUSE I DID GIVE A FRAMEWORK ON WHAT OUR NEEDS WERE AND WHAT OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE EXPECTED FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY WOULD GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THAT DURING THE MEETING.

AND FOR FY 2020 WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE ASKED OUR DEPARTMENTS TO STRETCH FORTH A 2 MILLION LOFTY GOAL OF PUTTING THAT INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR NEXT YEAR WHICH I BELIEVE THIS YEAR WE HAD ZERO OTHER THAN THIS TRANSFER FOR 800 AND SO SO MANY DOLLARS SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH TWO AS A GOAL. I'LL BE THRILLED WITH 1.5 I'LL BE DISSATISFIED AT A MILLION. EXACTLY. SO WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH WITH THE BOARD AND THE AND OUR DEPARTMENTS THE SAME SCENARIO WHEN WE KICKED OFF THE BUDGET A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. KIND OF SAID LOOK AT YOUR VACANCIES GAIN PRIORITY LIST. SO WE ARE GOING TO WORK TO THAT 7 MILLION DOLLAR GOAL. THAT'S MY THAT'S WHAT. THAT'S MY DEAL. THE TORTOISES. I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THEM.

OK. SO THOSE ARE IN THE NORTH REGIONAL WATER TREATMENT PLANTS IN THE NORTHEAST BY THE CLAREMONT LOCATIONS. SO THEY HAD TO BE REMOVED OFF SITE BECAUSE WHAT THEY DO IS THEY BURROW UNDERNEATH ALL OF OUR UTILITIES AND THEN THEY MAKE BIG HOLES IN YOUR WATER LINES AND A MESS AND THEN I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY BIG BUCKS ON A WASTEWATER LINE IF THAT BILL PASSES. SO WE DID NEED TO RELOCATE THAT LITTLE TORTOISE GUY.

NUMBER ELEVEN. I GOTCHA. SO THERE'S A DECREASE IN NON CAPITAL LEGAL FEES ANTICIPATED FOR ATTORNEY FEES TRANSFERRED A PORTION OF FUNDS PROGRAM TO SUPPORT FUTURE DRAINAGE PROJECTS. THIS IS MY LEAST FAVORITE TOPIC OF HOW WE DO BUDGET WITH STORM WATER CAPITAL PROJECTS.

WE PUT ALL THE MONEY INTO A BIG BUCKET IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR AND THEN WE DECIDE WHICH BUCKET THEY GO TO AS WE GO THROUGH DESIGN AND WE TRANSFER FUNDS ALONG THE WAY AND WHEN WE HAVE THINGS LIKE WELL WE DON'T NEED LEGAL FEES THIS YEAR WE JUST TRANSFER THAT WAY. SO I CAN TELL YOU NEXT FISCAL YEAR WON'T BE LIKE THAT. VERY VERY DEFINED WHAT PROJECT WHAT WHERE AND AT THE END IF THERE'S ANYTHING EXTRA AND YOU FIND THAT YOU NEED A TRUCK AN EXCAVATOR OR ACTUALLY MORE STORMWATER PROJECTS. CAN BE DONE. WE'LL DO THOSE. I COVER ALL OF THEM?

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SOME OF THESE ARE UTILITY IN STORMWATER IT'S LIKE I SAID THEY DON'T ACTUALLY BUDGET STORMWATER DIDN'T BUDGET LIKE INTO THEIR PRODUCTS THEY JUST BUDGET A BUCKET AND THEY BREAK IT DOWN WHICH IS NOT MY MY FAVORITE LINE ITEM PERSONALLY.

IS THAT SATISFACTORY TO COUNCIL AND BILL IT'S BILL I CAN GIVE ME CALL ON MY CELL PHONE IS ON MY BUSINESS CARDS I HAND THEM OUT LIKE CANDY. I DID HAVE A TOUGH WEEK. I WILL ADMIT. YOU'RE STILL ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO CALL YOU BACK. I'LL YOU BACK ON SATURDAY IS THAT ALL RIGHT. 8 30 COFFEE. ON THAT NOTE, COUNCIL I NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019-10. NEED A SECOND. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM COUNCIL. IF NOT I'M GOING TO CALL IT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED SAY NAY. OK. OK. GOING TO ITEM SIX. MRS. SMITH. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2019-11 A RESOLUTION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY FLORIDA SUPPORTING PASSAGE OF HOUSE BILL 141 SENATE BILL 216 AND SENATE BILL 368. IN FURTHERANCE OF RESTORING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BAILEY. THANK YOU MAYOR. AS YOU KNOW WE CONSIDER THIS A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE FINE STRUCTURE THE TYPE OF BURDEN IT MIGHT PUT ON THE CITY AND HAPPENING TO RAISE RATES FOR CERTAIN SITUATIONS THAT MIGHT NOT BE PRUDENT IT HAS IT HAS PROMPTED ME TO DO MORE RESEARCH SINCE THAT MEETING. I DO FIND IT INTERESTING THAT CURRENT FINE SYSTEM FOR RELEASING QUITE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RAW SEWAGE TRUE RAW SEWAGE WHICH IS NOT SOMETHING CITY OF PALM BAY HAS DONE IN THESE LAST YEARS AT LEAST IN THESE LAST FIVE YEARS WHEN WE WERE ASKING FOR STAFF ANALYSIS. BUT THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE COUNTY AND THE FINES WERE QUITE MINIMAL.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIXTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. SO WHENEVER I'M WATCHING AND I'M READING SOME OF WHAT THE OTHER STATE LEGISLATORS ARE DOING NOT JUST IN OUR COUNTY OUTSIDE OUR COUNTY AND THEIR COMMENTS ON IT. AND I LISTEN TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING. I SEE WHY THEY ARE SO GUNG HO IN PASSING THIS BILL THIS BILL ISN'T ACTUALLY NOT A NEW BILL IT'S NOT A NEW IDEA. IT'S BEEN ONE THAT'S BEEN TRYING TO GET PUSHED THROUGH FOR YOU FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THAT KIND OF TENDS TO HAPPEN SOMETIMES WITH LEGISLATION AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET IT RIGHT FOR GOOD ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS IT BUT IT APPEARS TO HAVE A LOT OF LOT OF MOMENTUM THIS YEAR AND I DON'T THINK THAT MOST OF THE CITIZENS IN THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE RESISTANT TO TAKING CARE OF ANY PROBLEMS THAT WE FACE. AND I THINK THAT WE DO DO A GOOD JOB HERE IN THE CITY BUT THERE IS ONE PIECE OF THAT LEGISLATION THAT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY WITH A COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE AND A HEARING WEEK BEFORE LAST. I BELIEVE LAST WEEK ACTUALLY AND IT CHANGED THE ADDED PROVISION THAT THE TWO DOLLARS PENALTY FOR FIXING A PROBLEM IF IT DOESN'T COST THAT MUCH. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY ISSUES WHAT IF IT COST FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS WITH A TWO DOLLAR FINE IS TWO MILLION DOLLARS SO WE'RE PAYING FIFTY THOUSAND FOR SOMETHING THAT CREATED QUITE A SPILL. BUT IT WASN'T A TWO MILLION DOLLAR FIX. I MEAN IT SEEMS ARBITRARY TO ME. THE FINE SYSTEM. WELL THIS NEW PIECE OF IT AND EVIDENTLY WAS ALREADY IN MR. [INAUDIBLE]'S BILL THE SENATOR'S BILL ITS NOW ALSO IN THE HOUSE BILL PORTION BASICALLY STATES THAT IF IF YOU FIX THE PROBLEM THEN THAT'S SUFFICIENT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO UP TO THAT FULL AMOUNT. SO THAT WAS MY THAT WAS ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THAT IS CREATING THIS HUGE HUGE POTENTIAL FOR US TO HAVE RATE INCREASES WITH NOTHING NECESSARILY SPEND IT ON IT'S PUNITIVE IN NATURE AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHY IT WAS INTRODUCED THAT WAY. I THINK IT WAS MEANT TO BE SOMEWHAT PUNITIVE TO MUNICIPALITIES.

SO THAT HAS CHANGED AND I WAS ALREADY ON I MEAN I WAS I I THINK THERE'S SOME ARGUMENTS THE STAFF GAVE THAT I THAT I CERTAINLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING THEM ABOUT AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THEM. I THINK THAT THAT CHANGE HAS BEEN SUFFICIENT ENOUGH TO GARNER MY SUPPORT AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO HAVE TO PUSH THIS FORWARD AND ACTUALLY LIKE I SAID I THINK IT OPENED MY EYES A LITTLE BIT LOOKING AND SEEING SOME OF THE LAWS BECAUSE I THINK I FELT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER HERE FOR FOUR YEARS WE NEVER HEARD ANY PROBLEMS BECAUSE OUR STAFF WAS DOING A GOOD JOB OF COMPLYING WITH THE LAW. BUT THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAW IF THE LAW IS A LITTLE BIT MORE LENIENT THAN WHAT THE AVERAGE PERSON WOULD EXPECT THEN THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SCENARIO AND AND SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH US RISING TO THAT LEVEL. THE OTHER THING WAS WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SECONDARY EFFLUENT WHICH IS NOW A LOT LESS HAZARDOUS. I BELIEVE IT'S STILL NOT PERMITTED LEGALLY TO BE LEAKED INTO OUR LAGOONS THOUGH AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. SO THAT WAS ANOTHER CONCERN I HAD LAST TIME WAS WHETHER THAT WAS TREATED THE SAME AS RAW SEWAGE. I THINK A LOT OF THE POLITICIANS RIGHT NOW ARE CALLING THEM THIS ONE IN THE SAME ONE IS REALLY RAW SEWAGE OTHER ONES PARTIALLY TREATED. IT'S NOT QUITE RECLAIMED WATER. BUT IT'S ONE STEP

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FROM IT. IT'SS ONE STEP FROM WHAT WE WOULD THERE'S SOME FOLKS IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION WE PROVIDE RECLAIMED WATER TO ALLOW THEM TO PUT ON THEIR LAWNS WITH WHICH DOES GO INTO LAGOON. IT'S ONE STEP FROM IT. SO THAT'S SO I THOUGHT THERE'S LITTLE BIT DIFFERENCE IN THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT. THE LEGALITIES OF IT FOR SURE THOUGH WE STILL SHOULD BE PUTTING INTO THE WATER. SO ANYHOW THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT BACK AND JUST ALSO I THINK THIS HELPED GUIDE US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION WHENEVER WE'RE LOOKING HOW WE SPEND MONEYS AND KNOW IT. ALL OF OUR FUNDS THAT WE SCRUTINIZE IT CLOSELY AND WE PUT IT IN THE PLACES THAT HAVE THE BEST IMPACT. AND SO I THAT PART OF IT. I THINK THIS COUNCIL AND ANYBODY KNOWS ME FOR SCRUTINISING OUR SPENDING THAT IS A PASSION OF MINE THAT ME THAT'S PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE THING THAT I DO UP HERE IS I'M TRYING TO FIND WHERE ARE WE SPENDING MONEY I CAN'T STAND WHEN WE SPEND WHEN WE LOSE MONEY AND WHEN WE WASTE MONEY AND IT LITERALLY BRINGS ME JOY WHENEVER I SEE A SAVING MONEY SO THAT THAT'S KIND OF PART OF MY PASSION SO I LIKE THE FACT THAT HOPEFULLY I WANT US TO HIGHLIGHT FOR OURSELVES THAT WE NEED PAY ATTENTION TO EVERY FUND AND SPEND OUR MONEY WISELY. BILL BATTIN. I GUESS I GOTTA STAY ACTIVE AND I'M GOING TO DO. BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SW. FIRST I APOLOGIZE THERE ARE POLICE OFFICERS ARE STANDING OUT THERE AND YOU'RE SAYING BILL MAKE IT A SHORT NIGHT. ALL RIGHT. FIRST OFF THIS WAS PRESENTED LATE FOR REVIEW SOON AS SOON AS THE AGENDA COMES OUT I TRY. I START REVIEWING IT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PAGES FOR ME TO GO THROUGH AND READ. SO WHEN SOMETHING COMES UP AND LATE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE FACT THAT TERESE PUTS OUT AN EMAIL THAT SAYS BUILDERS A NEW ITEM OUT THERE I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS. WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE. I LIKE BEING INFORMED SO I CAN BE INFORMED RIGHT. BUT THAT BEING SAID FIRST OFF BILL BATTIN IS NOT A FOND BELIEVER IN GIVING MONEY THE WAY WE ARE FOR THE SAVING OF THE LAGOON. I WATCHED FOR A LONG TIME A LOT OF BAD WHAT I CONSIDER BAD SCIENCE. THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB BUT THEY'RE THE SCIENTISTS ARE GETTING FUNDED BY THE SAME PEOPLE THEY'RE SAYING YOU NEED TO FIN THIS. YEAH. OH THIS IS BAD. WE NEED MORE MONEY SO WE GIVE IT TO THEM. THAT MONEY COMES OUT OF BILL BATTIN'S BACK POCKET. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING. NEXT ONE IS WHEN I SEE MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT SAYING ALL OF THIS IS GOOD. LET'S VOLUNTEER TO PUT OUR NAMES DOWN AND SAY GIVE ME A FINE. I LIKE THAT FINE ME. THAT'S LIKE ASKING THE CITY OF RESIDENTS TO SAY OH WE LIKE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT. LET'S DO THAT. IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ASK FOR IT. RIGHT. AND THE FEAR THAT I HAVE WITH THIS ONE IS THE FACT THAT THIS IS ON THE SERIOUS SIDE IS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS SO MANY SEPTIC TANKS THAT MORE REGULATION LIKE THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE GONNA START USING TO SAYING OH WELL WE CAN'T FUND IT THE WAY IT CURRENTLY IS. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO START IMPOSING FINES AND MANDATORY INSPECTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FOR SEPTIC TANKS. AND I SEE THAT COMING DOWN THE PIKE. SO FOR ME IT'S STRICTLY A FEAR SAYING OH LOOK I SAVE 20 BUCKS BUT WE'RE GONNA CHARGE EVERY RESIDENT ALONG WITH A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR WHATEVER WE GET. WHATEVER IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE NEXT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO SAY WELL THAT WASN'T ENOUGH MONEY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO. WE'RE GONNA HAVE SEPTIC TANK INSPECTION FEES WHICH IS WHAT I'M AFRAID OF BECAUSE MINE'S ONLY AN INCH BELOW GRADE. NO I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BILL. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

STEVE HEADLEY STILL HAVEN'T MOVED STILL A RESIDENT. THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH THIS IS I LIKE TO HAVE GOVERNMENTS ACT LIKE PRIVATE CITIZENS IN A LOT OF WAYS. IF MR. BAILEY AND I'M JUST USING YOU AS AN EXAMPLE SIR. COUNCILMAN BAILEY HAS A PIPE THAT BREAKS IN HIS HOME AND SPILLS WATER OVER THERE EVERYWHERE. THE CITY DOESN'T COME IN AND FIND HIM. IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. AND THE A LOT OF THE DISCHARGES INTO THE LAGOONS ARE BECAUSE PIPES HAVE BEEN BREAKING THAT YOU CAN'T YOU CANNOT REGULATE THAT. YOU JUST CAN'T. SECONDLY THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING IS THE SYSTEMS CAN'T HANDLE MAJOR STORMS THE LARGEST DISCHARGE INTO THE LAGOON HAPPENED IN A MAJOR HURRICANE AFTER A MAJOR HURRICANE. AND MY ISSUE WITH THAT IS THAT RIGHT NOW THIS COUNTY IS LOOKING AT BUILDING ANOTHER SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT IN INDIAN HARBOUR BEACH. IT'S CLOSER TO THE BEACHES. THEY GO STRAIGHT THERE. IF YOU STARTED BUILDING THAT PLANT TOMORROW TO MORROW IT WON'T BE DONE UNTIL 2030 AND THEY'RE STILL SUBJECT TO THE FINES INSTEAD OF GOING PUTTING ALL THE MONEY TOWARD THE

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SOLUTION WHICH IS A TREATMENT PLANT THAT HANDLES MORE MORE CAPABILITY. WE'RE FINDING THEM AND IT GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AND I'M I'M SORRY. I TRY TO BE PRACTICAL AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING. BUT THE LAST BREAK THAT HAPPENED THEY STARTED ROLLING IN 22 TRACTOR TRAILERS TANKERS. THEY STARTED ROLLING THEM IN AND THEY COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE DISCHARGE. APPARENTLY PEOPLE IN BREVARD COUNTY LIKE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND THEY COULD NOT KEEP UP WITH THE DISCHARGE. TWENTY TWO TANKERS ONE AFTER THE OTHER THEY COULDN'T GET RID OF IT FAST ENOUGH. AT SOME POINT TIME WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC PIPES BREAK. THEY BREAK IN MY HOME. THEY BREAK IN MAYOR CAPOTE'S HOME. SEE I'M NOT PICKING ON YOU MAJOR. YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN BAILEY THEY BREAK IN EVERYONE'S HOME. AND IN FACT IF YOU HAVE A PIPE THAT IS RUNNING FROM THE STREET A WATER PIPE YOU GET YOU.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE WATER BILL THE BORDER BECAUSE IT GOES RIGHT BACK INTO THE GROUND. THE ST. JOHN'S RIVER AND EVERYBODY SAYS DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. IF THEY FIND A LEAK AND YET WE'RE FINDING PEOPLE FOR PIPES THAT BREAK IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME. I'M SORRY. I APPRECIATE THE POINT. I APPRECIATE WHAT'S TRYING TO BE DONE. BUT THIS IS A CASE OF ME OF GREAT CURE THE PATIENT DIED. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. IF NOT, THIS IS YOUR ITEM. MAKE A MOTION. MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 2019-11 SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. DEPUTY MAYOR. I MEAN I THINK I THINK THAT I'VE STATED GOOD BIT AND I APPRECIATE WHAT MR. HEADLEY JUST STATED WHICH IS THE INTENT OF THIS. AND I THINK THE INTENT IS THAT WE FIX THE PROBLEM IF WE SEE IT. I KNOW NOT EVERYTHING IS FORESEEABLE BUT I WOULD THINK THAT IF WE FOUND A MAJOR BREACH IN OUR SYSTEM WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT. I MEAN PALM BAY'S GOING TO FIX IT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT EVERY MUNICIPALITY BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT. AND SO THAT'S WHERE IT BECOMES THAT PORTION BECOMES REASONABLE TO ME THAT DEFINITELY MAKES SENSE RATHER THAN SOMEHOW IGNORING IT GIVING A WEAKER PATCH WORK THAT MIGHT CAUSE MORE SPILLAGE IS WHICH WOULD BE THIS CASE THERE'D BE MORE FINES WHERE WHEREAS WE'D BE MORE ENCOURAGED TO FIX IT CORRECTLY THE FIRST TIME. SO THERE'S NOT MORE. AND I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT AND THE BIG PICTURE HERE THERE'S A LOT OF. AND I AGREE WITH MR. BATTIN ON SOME OF THE SCIENCE STUFF. THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. I DON'T THINK THIS IS. QUITE FRANKLY I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE AS FAR AS WHAT'S NOW DESTROYING THE CREEK. BUT I'M NOT AN EXPERT AND THEN I ONCE SPENT TIME TALKING ABOUT IT. WE SPENT HOURS TALKING ABOUT IT. NOW MR. BATTIN CERTAINLY IS AN EXPERTS SPENDING A LOT OF HIS TIME OUT THERE IN HIS CAREER. BUT ANYHOW I JUST THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT THERE WAS A CHANGE FOR ME OUT POINT COUNCIL TO THE LAST WHEREAS CLAUSE. NOW THESE BILLS ARE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OPPORTUNITY TO REMEDIATE THE PROBLEMS GIVING CAUSE TO SEWAGE DISCHARGES IN LIEU OF PUNITIVE PENALTIES AND WITHOUT COMPELLING  UNJUSTIFIABLE RATE INCREASES TO PERFORM PROJECTS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF PREVENTING FUTURE SEWER SPILLAGE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT WASN'T THERE LAST TIME THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND. I MEAN IF IT'S A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR ITEM AND WAS A TWO MILLION DOLLAR CALCULATION PENALTY I DON'T WANT US TO JUST HAVE TO RAISE THE RATE AND SPEND THAT OTHER IT'S ALMOST A WHOLE 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. I THINK WE SHOULD FIX THE PROBLEM THOUGH THAT THAT'S IMMEDIATE IN FRONT OF US. I DO THINK THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT THING TO DO AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AND THAT BEING SAID I APPRECIATE COUNCIL BEING PATIENT WITH ME. I KNOW VERY LITTLE REST LAST NIGHT. SO FORGIVE ME IF I'M A LITTLE BIT SLOW OR INCOHERENT BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF COUNCIL DOES SUPPORT.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY UP HERE IN THE COUNTY OR IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT THAT THAT WOULD NOT AGREE THAT OUR SYSTEM IS OUTDATED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS CRUMBLING AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS. THE PROBLEM IS JUST LIKE COUNCILMAN BAILEY SAID THE PATCHWORK REPAIRS AND THAT WE OBVIOUSLY NEED TO ADDRESS THEM A LOT FURTHER THAN WE HAVE OR HAVE BEEN ABLE TO. AGAIN I SAID WHEN I ORIGINALLY BROUGHT THIS UP AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN BAILEY BRINGING IT BACK AFTER SOME FURTHER RESEARCH THAT I DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE LIKE OH YOU HAVE A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PROBLEM YOU OWE US TWO MILLION DOLLARS. I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO WORK WITH THE MUNICIPALITY AND THIS WAS NOT NECESSARILY GEARED TOWARDS PALM BAY. IT WAS GEARED TOWARDS PEOPLE THAT WEREN'T FIXING THE FIXES THAT WERE DOING THE BAND-AID REPAIRS AND WE'D HAVE A PIPE BREAK 10 FEET FROM THE REPAIR THEY JUST MADE. SO I DON'T THINK THIS WAS REALLY GEARED TOWARD PALM BAY. I ALSO THINK AS LEADERS BEING UP HERE IF WE SEE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WE LIKE WE NEED TO SUPPORT THAT. AND AGAIN I THINK ON THE SAME COIN FLIP IF WE SEE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WE DON'T LIKE AS LEADERS WE ALSO NEED TO SAY THAT NONE OF

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US ARE GONNA BE IN AGREEMENT 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME WE ALL RAISE OUR KIDS DIFFERENTLY WE ALL LIVE DIFFERENT JOBS AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT EDUCATION. SO NONE OF US ARE GONNA BE ON BOARD 100 PERCENT OF THE TIME. SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GET BEHIND OUR STATE LEGISLATORS. YOU KNOW WHEN WE AGREE AND WHEN WE DISAGREE WE'RE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM WITH OFFICES HERE YOU KNOW A COUNTY COMMISSIONER HAS AN OFFICE HERE A STATE REPRESENTATIVE HAS AN OFFICE HERE. SO WHEN WE GET THE CHANCE TO SUPPORT THIS STUFF I THINK THREE OF US ARE GOING THERE TO MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD NEXT WEEK. SO I'M SURE THIS WILL BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION UP THERE AS FAR AS THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. SO ANYTIME WE GET THE CHANCE TO DO THIS I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT. THAT WAS IT. MAYOR. YES. JUST A FEW QUESTIONS. I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW DOES THIS BILL CHANGE WHAT OUR IS CURRENTLY DOING TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL BE A QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN BAILEY OR FOR STAFF. STAFF. CHRIS GIVE ME A CHEAT SHEET. AND I SEE CHRIS COMING. SO I'M GONNA HAVE CHRIS LITTLE FROM UTILITIES DIRECTOR ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. I GAVE FOR THE [INAUDIBLE] GROUPS MEETING ON MONDAY NIGHT. I GAVE A LITTLE SUMMARY AND THE SYSTEM AT THE PLANTS AND IN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM PAST FIVE YEARS WE SPENT OVER 11 MILLION DOLLARS AN HOUR IN OUR DOLLARS TRYING TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS AND WE WERE LOOKING AT IN THE COMING BUDGET YEARS TO ADD MORE MONEY TO WINING INSPECTION COMPANY CALLED RED ZONE. WE HAVE THEM ON BOARD. WE HAVE A CLEANING SERVICE THAT'S COMING IN TO HELP US CLEAN OUR SEWER SO RED ZONE CAN COME IN. LOOK AT THEM. WRITE THEM AND THEN WE CAN WORK TO REPAIR THEM. BUT CONSIDERING THE AGE OF THE UTILITY ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHEAST THE LINES ARE NEARLY 50 60 YEARS OLD PALM BAY AND PALM BAY UTILITIES HAVE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF AVOIDING RAW SEWAGE SPILLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YEAH THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. IF I MAY. YEAH. UNLESS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S.

YEAH. I WASN'T DONE. I'M SORRY. YEAH CAUSE WE'RE ALREADY ADDRESSING IT. WHY WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS US YOU KNOW BRINGING MORE GOVERNMENT IN WHEN WE'RE ALREADY ADDRESSING THE SITUATION SO I GUESS THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN BAILEY IS IT MORE SO BECAUSE I WANT TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH. IS IT MORE SO WE'RE SUPPORTING IT BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY'S ISSUE IN REGARDS TO SPILLAGE SINCE WE'RE NOT THE ONES REALLY DOING IT OR TRYING TO SAY. YEAH I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND YOU KNOW I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR SMALL GOVERNMENT. THERE CERTAINLY ARE TIMES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SHARED RESOURCE LIKE THE LAGOON. I MEAN SHARED BETWEEN WHAT FIVE COUNTIES CERTAINLY JUST OUR PORTION OF IT WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT UP HERE IN THE NORTH END OF THE LAGOON. YES I DO THINK THAT WHENEVER I FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS RAW SEWAGE AND I DON'T FORGIVE ME IF I HAVE THE NUMBER OFF TOP OF MY HEAD RIGHT NOW APOLOGIZE. BUT THERE IS AS I HAD BECAUSE I HAD I HAD THAT ALL WRITTEN DOWN I JUST GOT OFF TOPIC HERE BUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RAW SEWAGE AND SUCH A SMALL PENALTY WAS IT WAS A SHOCK TO ME. AND SO THAT IS A CONCERN. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PERFECT BILL. I'M HOPING THAT IT'S A GOOD BILL THAT TURNS OUT TO BE A GOOD BILL WHEN IT'S PASSED. I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A LOT SUPPORT BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE LEGISLATION AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND CERTAINLY IN THE BAY FRONT AREA OF OUR CITY TURKEY CREEK AREA WHO THIS IS VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND NOW WE WE'VE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BAYFRONT WE WANT TO GET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE. I REALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO STEP UP OUR GAME AND DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AROUND ESPECIALLY AROUND TURKEY CREEK AND CLOSER TO THE LAGOON TO TO CLEAN THINGS UP AND I THINK THAT'S JUST ONE STATING A POLICY THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADING TO AND WE'RE HOPING THAT OUR NEIGHBORS DO THE SAME. THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I LOVE THE PREMISE OF IT. I LOVE THE PREMISE OF US ADDRESSING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON BUT I LIKE THAT WE'RE ALREADY ADDRESSING THE WORLD AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE AHEAD. AND BUT WE CAN'T HOLD OTHER CITIES ACCOUNTABLE OR THE COUNTY ACCOUNTABLE SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU COME IN WITH THAT. MY CONCERN IS JUST YOU KNOW PUTTING TAKING MONEY FROM BILL BATTIN'S POCKET OR TAKING MONEY FROM THE CITY AND GIVING IT TO THE STATE AND GOOD HOPES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. THEY HAVE A FUND FOR IT. BUT WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH IT. SO THAT'S THAT'S REALLY MY CONCERN.

WHEN I KNOW WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING. AND IF I MAY I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GIVING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GIVING THEM MONEY. I THINK MAYBE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

I'VE HEARD SOME QUESTION AS REGARDS WHAT WOULD THE ONE DOLLAR PENALTY. WHERE WOULD THAT GO. AND THERE HAVE BEEN THERE IS AN INTERESTING SCENARIO HERE. AGAIN I FELT AT THE BEGINNING THIS IS A BIT OF ARBITRARY FINE SCHEME. I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE AND THEY WANT TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I FELT THE LEGISLATORS ARE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH STUFF THROUGH FOR A FEW YEARS. BUT THERE THERE IS THERE

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IS THE CASE WHERE YOU KNOW IT'S A VERY SMALL SPILLAGE AT THIS TIME. IT'S A SMALL PENALTY MAYBE IT'S A FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLAR PENALTY. THAT'S A TWO MILLION DOLLAR FIX.

SO YOU KNOW YOU'RE PROBABLY GONNA GET A FEW MORE OF THOSE 50,000 DOLLARS SPILLS YOU KNOW OVER TIME MAYBE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. BUT YOU'RE ADDING THAT UP AND SAYING WELL THAT'S A MAYBE A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS COMPARED TO TWO MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME DELAY IN THAT. I AM NOT SURE WHAT WHERE WHERE THAT GOES AND IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT DID NOT GET CLARITY ON WHERE THAT MONEY THAT DOLLAR WOULD GO. BUT I FOR ONE DON'T BELIEVE THAT MANY CITIES ARE GOING TO LIKE TO DO THAT WHENEVER THEY'RE HAPPENING SEND NOTICES TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO SAY YOU KNOW WHENEVER THEY GET THOSE NOTICES JUST LIKE WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS THERE THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AND MIGHT NOT BE EVERYBODY MAY ONLY ONE PERCENT THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER AND THEY'RE GONNA SAY WHAT'S THE CITY DOING. SO I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE TOO MUCH ON THE TABLE. THE MONEY THAT THE TWO DOLLAR PENALTY IS NOT GOING TO THE STATE WE'RE SPENDING IT. SO SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I SEE THE KEY AT BEING THERE. I JUST DON'T WANT US TO HAVE TO RAISE RATES FOR NO REASON WHEN THAT'S A SMALLER PROBLEM THAN WHAT THE PENALTY CALLS FOR NOW IT'S WHY THAT SECOND PART WAS SO CRUCIAL TO ME SAYING THAT IT'S MUCH MORE REASONABLE IN THAT CONTEXT. IF I MAY. YEAH. AND I KNOW. PERHAPS THE SCIENCE COULD BE QUESTIONABLE TO SOME EXTENT. BUT I WILL SAY THIS. YOU KNOW I CAN BELIEVE WHAT I SEE AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THAT I DID SEE BEFORE AND I THINK ALL OF US ALL OF US HAVE SEEN IS ACTUALLY A LOT OF THIS THIS WASTE ACTUALLY GOING INTO OUR ESTUARIES AND IT DIDN'T ONLY HAPPEN HERE IN PALM BAY AND I DON'T THINK THIS BILL ACTUALLY POINTS TO OUR CITY BECAUSE AT LEAST OUR CITY I BELIEVE WAS THE ONLY CITY THAT ACTUALLY TREATED THAT BEFORE IT WENT OUT. THERE WERE OTHER CITIES AND EVEN A COUNTY THAT DID NOT. BUT BUT BUT THAT I CAN SEE THAT AND THAT YOU CAN POINT TO. AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN YOU HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION WHY WHY IS THAT HAPPENING NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO COULD THAT HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. AND NUMBER THREE HAVE THERE BEEN A GOOD MAINTENANCE PLAN IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID BEFORE WE ARE WE ARE IN A STATE WHERE WE DO EXPECT HURRICANES. WE DO EXPECT LONG DAYS OF RAIN. WE DO EXPECT THOSE THINGS. AND SO IF WE DO WHY AREN'T WE MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WOULD PREVENT THOSE THINGS FROM HAPPENING EVEN UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT US IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE AGAIN THIS IS ABOUT HOLDING THE YOU KNOW ALL MUNICIPALITIES AND COUNTY EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE WE SHARE THESE ESTUARIES WHETHER IT'S THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON OR YOU KNOW DOWN OKEECHOBEE LAKE OR ANY OTHER ESTUARIES. OK WE WE WE HAVE TO YOU KNOW WE HAVE TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE SO THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED IT BEFORE. I THINK YOU KNOW AS FAR AS THE MINUTIAE AS FAR AS THE DETAILS OF A BILL I KNOW I I'LL SAY THIS I SAID JUST BEFORE AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN. THOSE THINGS ALWAYS GET MODIFY KICKED AROUND AND THEN CLEANED UP IF YOU WILL BEFORE IT GETS TO THE TO THE FLOOR. I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT AND THE CONCEPT IS TO IS TO ENSURE THAT MUNICIPALITIES ARE FOCUSING ON. I BELIEVE THE TWO TWO TOP PRIORITIES ONE OF THEM BEING PUBLIC SAFETY THE OTHER BEING INFRASTRUCTURE NOT ONLY ROADS NOT ONLY STORMWATER BUT BUT ALSO OUR UTILITIES ARE OUR POTABLE WATER AND WASTEWATER SO WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BILL BECAUSE BECAUSE THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT I SUPPORT AND THAT IS ENSURING THAT MUNICIPALITIES YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE IF IF THEY ARE TASKED AND I SAID AS I STATED BEFORE THEY ARE IN THE FRONT LINES OF ENSURING THAT THOSE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. SO. SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS OKAY. FOR ME I STILL STAND WHERE I STAND. THIS THING IS TOO PREMATURE TO SAY THAT WE WEREN'T A TARGET WOULD NOT BE RIGHT BECAUSE DURING THE HURRICANE FROM FACEBOOK TWO PAGES WERE WRITTEN ABOUT HOW IRRESPONSIBLE PALM BAY WAS FOR ALLOWING SEWAGE TO SPILL INTO TURKEY CREEK TO SIT HERE AND SAY THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE DIDN'T TARGET US WOULD BE NOT CORRECT HE DID TARGET US AND ONE OF THE PREMISE OF

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THIS WAS COCOA, PALM BAY COUNTY AND IT WAS MERCILESS. THE WORDING ON FACEBOOK IN REGARDS TO HOW IRRESPONSIBLE PALM BAY WAS. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH. AND SINCE SOMEBODY COUNCILMAN BAILEY STATED BECAUSE I'M GOING TO QUOTE HIM ON THIS ONE THAT THIS IS NOT A PERFECT BILL. WHY WOULD I SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PERFECT. I WANT THE FINAL PRODUCT. YOU GIVE ME THE FINAL PRODUCT BECAUSE REMEMBER ORDINANCE RESOLUTIONS AND ANY LEGISLATION THAT DEALS WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN REGARDS TO BUDGETING SAFETY AND SO ON. WE DON'T VOTE UNTIL IT'S FINAL PRODUCT. SO WHY WOULD WE SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PERFECT. IT'S JUST I MEAN LIKE LIKE LIKE DENZEL WASHINGTON WOULD SAY IN THE MOVIE TALK TO ME LIKE I'M A TWO YEAR OLD BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE PHILADELPHIA BECAUSE I DON'T GET IT. THE REALITY HERE IS THAT YES WE WERE A TARGET. AND TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE WOULDN'T BE TRUTH. IF NOT LIKE WARNER WOLF WOULD SAY LET'S GO BACK TO THE VIDEOTAPE WHICH I WOULD CALL FACEBOOK AND SEE AND GO BACK TO THE TIME WHEN IRMA CAME THROUGH AND WE'LL SEE EVERYTHING THAT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT PALM BAY VERY NEGATIVELY SO IT'S NOT LIKE I'M LYING. I'M TELLING THE TRUTH. SO WHY WOULD I SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PERFECT.

THEIR JOB IS TO GET IT RIGHT. JUST LIKE THEY'RE HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT WE DO IN OUR CITY. I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT PERFECT. MAYOR. I GOT TO GIVE IT TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR. YES. [INAUDIBLE] I DO WANT TO ANSWER THAT. LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF SOMETHING WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH WHICH IS A CLASSROOM WE'VE ALL TAKEN TEST. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PERFECT IS THAT THAT RANGE IS FROM 99 TO 0. SO WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT SOMETHING. WELL IT DEPENDS ON HOW WE SAY IT'S NOT PERFECT. IT DEPENDS ON HOW. YOU'RE GIVING MY ANALOGY. THE QUESTION IS HOW SIGNIFICANT THE FLAW IS. I DON'T SEE THE FLAWS BEING THAT SIGNIFICANT IN IT TO KILL THE WHOLE THING. I THINK THERE'S MORE GOOD THAN BAD SO THAT'S THAT'S HOW YOU WEIGH IT OUT. BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION WERE WE BEING BASHED DURING THE DURING THE HURRICANE. AND MAYOR. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S MY COMMENTS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING DON'T I DON'T KNOW SOME MEMBERS I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PERSON WHO INTRODUCED THIS BILL BECAUSE THAT WAS MENTIONED HERE THAT THIS IS NOT TARGETING PALM BAY THAT THIS IS WRITTEN FOR THE COUNTY. THIS IS WRITTEN FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. AND IF YOU LET ME FINISH MY STATEMENT THERE. I'M SAYING I DON'T KNOW. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE QUOTING ME AS SAYING. NO NO NO. OR ONE OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SAYING THAT IT WASN'T TARGETED AT US. I DO RECALL THAT BEING SAID AND FORGIVE ME I'M LIKE I SAID I'M TIRED RIGHT NOW. I AGREE WITH YOU. YOU HAVE JOGGED THE MEMORY AND I AGREE WITH YOU.

THOSE COMMENTS THAT COME OUT THERE AND I WILL I WILL CEDE THAT POINT. BUT FOR ME THAT WAS NEVER I IF I'VE MADE THAT STATEMENT I APOLOGIZE AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO RECALL DEPUTY MAYOR IS TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT. I AGREE WITH YOU MAYOR THAT THAT REALLY WASN'T A STICKING POINT FOR ME. I WHAT I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE IN MY COMMENTS AND PERHAPS THIS WAS THAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR WAS TOO IS THAT OUT OF ALL THE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN THE COUNTY. AS YOU MENTIONED I BELIEVE OR COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO WE TREAT OURS IT WASN'T COMPLETELY TREATED BUT WE WERE PROBABLY FY FAR THE MOST RESPONSIBLE WITH AND OUR SYSTEM IS NOT THE NEWEST LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY. AND I'M NOT SAYING OURS IS THE OLDEST OF THE WORST.

BUT WE DID A LOT WITH LESS. AND SO I WHAT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE I THINK OUR STAFF IS TRYING TO DO A GOOD THING AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE US CONTINUE TO DO THAT. AND ONE PIECE THAT WE HADN'T TALKED ABOUT YET IS THAT THEIR FUNDING AND WAS WHY SENATE BILL 368 SO IMPORTANT. AND I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO ALL BE PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE THAT FUNDING HOPEFULLY WILL BE USED TO HELP THOSE FOLKS THEIR OWN STAFF TO GET ON THE SEWER SYSTEM ENTER INTO REHAB SEWER SYSTEM. THAT'S AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER BIG PLUS FOR THIS. SO WE MIGHT SEE A MINUS SOMEWHERE BUT I THINK THAT'S A BIG PLUS IF WE CAN GET SOME MORE FUNDING. I THINK WE HAVE ACCESS TO FUNDING LOCALLY. THERE'S THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON TAX AND IT WAS PROMISED WHENEVER PEOPLE WHEN THAT WAS SOLD TO PEOPLE THE PROMISE WAS THAT WE'D HAVE STATE MATCHING FUNDS. SO THIS RIGHT HERE IS ME SUPPORTING SAYING YOU GUYS NEED TO KEEP THAT PROMISE AS WELL TO THE LOCAL RESIDENTS HERE THROUGHOUT BREVARD

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COUNTY AND PROVIDE THAT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER KEY PORTION OF THIS. AND THEN OF COURSE I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE I DON'T THINK JUST BECAUSE THE VOTERS PASSED THAT AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AND THE STATES DOING THEIR PART WE'VE GOT TO COME UP WITH OURS AS WELL. AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ME FOCUSED ON. AND SO ANYHOW I'LL STOP THERE. I APOLOGIZE. OH DEPUTY MAYOR. I'LL JUST GO REAL QUICK AS QUICK AS I CAN. I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ON THE TUESDAY AFTER THIS THIS RESOLUTION DIED AFTER OUR MEETING THE COUNTY COMMISSION DID PASS THIS 4-1 SUPPORTING IT AND THEY WOULD BE MOST LIKELY GETTING THE HEFTIEST FINE WHEN I SAID THIS BILL WAS NOT TARGETED AT PALM BAY. MAYBE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A MISSTATEMENT I WOULD SAY I WATCH FACEBOOK DURING HURRICANE IRMA AND I OWN IT WE DUMP NOT RAW SEWAGE INTO THE LAGOON AND AS THAT HAPPENED I GOT ON THE PHONE WITH THE FORMER CITY MANAGER AND THE UTILITY DIRECTOR AND ASKED HIM QUESTIONS ON HOW THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. SO I TRIED TO GET IN FRONT OF IT. MAYBE IT WASN'T THE MOST POIGNANT THING FOR REPRESENTATIVE FINE TO COME AFTER US. BUT YOU KNOW HE HAS HIS AGENDA AND WE HAVE OURS AND I THINK AS CITY LEADERS WE TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEMS SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A MORE CANDID WAY TO DO THAT AND PERHAPS FACEBOOK ISN'T THE RIGHT WAY BUT THAT IS THE WAY NOW THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEMING TO DO EVERYTHING. THE LAST BILL EXCEPT FOR BILL BATTIN HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT DOESN'T USE FACEBOOK. I BELIEVE WITH 750 GALLONS AND BELIEVE YOU ME MY FACEBOOK LIT UP LIKE LIKE WE HAD JUST RELEASED 100,000 GALLONS AND JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE 750 GALLONS IS LIKE 10 BATHTUBS WHICH MY AND YOUR WORLD IS NOT THAT MUCH YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT WASN'T NOT A BIG DEAL BUT YOU WOULDN'T THINK THESE PEOPLE WOULD BE CURSING ME LIKE I HAD STOLEN THEIR CHILD BUT THEY WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT. SO I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO PROACTIVELY LAGOON IS THE TALK OF THE TOWN RIGHT NOW. IF YOU GO OUT TO THAT LAGOON ESPECIALLY IN CAPE CANAVERAL IT IS BROWN THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE BROWN THE THINGS THEY WERE PUTTING IN THE TANKER DRUNK AND THE LAGOON. SO WE GOT TO BUCKLE DOWN AND WE GOT TO FIX THIS. I THINK THIS IS A PROACTIVE MEASURE IN US ADDRESSING THINGS THAT MAYBE WE THOUGHT WE COULD PUT OFF FOR ANOTHER 5 TO 10 YEARS. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU SIR. I THINK IT'LL SAY A LOT FOR US TO ALL YOU KNOW SHOW THE COMMUNITY LIKE STATE COUNTY AND CITY THAT WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND TURKEY CREEK.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID I PERSONALLY FEEL WE SHOULD TABLE IS AT A LATER DATE. I FEEL WE SHOULD TABLE THIS AT A LATER DATE BECAUSE JUST AS COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO SAID AND OTHERS HAVE SAID IT'S GOING TO CHANGE AND IT COULD CHANGE FOR THE BETTER BUT OR IT COULD CHANGE FOR THE WORSE. SO I THINK ESPECIALLY WITH ME DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON STILL GOING. AND MAYOR CAPOTE YOU'RE GOING TO. NO I WON'T BE. I HAVE. OH OK.

I KNOW MYSELF AND DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON ARE GOING UP THERE NEXT WEEK IN TALLAHASSEE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT LATER ON IN THE STAGE AND I WILL BE MORE SUPPORTIVE OF IT. AND I THINK THAT WILL SAY A LOT IF IT'S UNANIMOUS AMONGST THE COUNCIL. BUT TO GET THERE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE SEE IT THROUGH FIRST. SO. I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TABLE IT AND I WOULD I KNOW FOR SURE I'LL BE MORE SUPPORTIVE BASED ON WHICH WAY IT GOES. BUT AS IT CURRENTLY STAYS I DON'T SEE ME DOING THAT. BUT YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN BAILEY EVEN IF IT'S A FEW WEEKS FROM NOW I'LL I'LL I'LL BE MORE SUPPORTIVE. NOW LET ME LET ME ADD SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU JUST HIT ON A KEY POINT THERE AND THIS IS LIKE WALKING IN A CAR DEALERSHIP YOU WALK INTO A CAR DEALERSHIP AND THE FIRST THING THE SALESMAN. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT. NEXT THING IS HOW MUCH CAN YOU AFFORD. AND JUST LIKE I WALKED IN WITH MY SON THE OTHER DAY I SAID DO NOT GIVE HIM A PRICE. I TOLD HIM LET'S WORK. YOU TELL ME WHAT YOU COULD SELL IT FOR. AND WE WORKED FROM THAT POINT FOR US TO SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A FINAL PRODUCT. WHEN WE WANT THINGS CHANGED WITHIN THAT BILL YOU'RE GIVING AWAY THE HOUSE ALREADY. YOU HAVE NO STRENGTH TO NEGOTIATE WHAT YOU WANT ESPECIALLY WOULDN'T YOU SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS. I MEAN THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. IT IS LIKE LIGHTBULB BOOM. SO BY SUPPORTING THIS YOU'RE SAYING YOU SUPPORT EVEN IF YOU SAY WHATEVER YOU'RE SUPPORTING IT AS IT IS. SO THAT MEANS YOU COULDN'T GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE AND NEGOTIATE ANYTHING. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME. SO THAT'S WHY I SAY THAT THAT IN THE PAST WE DON'T JUMP ON BILLS. WE WAIT UNTIL IT'S A FINAL IF WE OPPOSE IT. WE OPPOSE IT FOR A REASON BUT FOR IT WHEN WE FOR IT WE'RE FOR IT BECAUSE IT IS A FINAL PRODUCT NOT BECAUSE WE'RE STAYING WITHIN THAT BILL THAT WE DISLIKE. SO IF YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TO THE REPRESENTATIVE IN REALITY DON'T COME UP HERE AND NEGOTIATE

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WITH ME BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY APPROVING AND SAYING THAT I'M DOWN WITH WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WANT. SO AT THE END LIKE I SAID I'LL CALL THIS BECAUSE THEY'LL BE VOTES AND I'LL LEAVE IT THERE. MAYOR I DID WANT TO FIRST. IF A MAN WE KNOW WHO THE THE SECONDER IS AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AS FAR AS THE IDEA OF TABLING IT. I SUPPORT THE BILL AS IT IS AS I DID THE FIRST GO AROUND. THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE MAKING I DON'T THINK AFFECT THE SIMPLICITY OF THE BILL FIX THE LAGOON FIX YOUR BROKEN SYSTEM. WHOSE BROKEN SYSTEM? I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN OUR COUNTY AND THEN THE OTHER LEGISLATORS AS WELL. I MEAN AS FAR AS LIKE THE THING THAT COMES TO ME IS THE DELEGATION MEETING THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IS THE POINT OF DISCUSSION AT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I FOR ONE DON'T SEE THIS HITTING VERY MANY HICCUPS ALONG THE WAY. THERE MAY BE SOME MASSAGING HAPPENING HERE BUT I THINK THIS GOES TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK AND HE SIGNS IT. I'D RATHER BE IN FRONT OF IT THAN BEHIND IT. EVEN IF IT'S COSTING YOU. WELL IT'S NOT GOING TO COST US BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIX THE SYSTEM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE ARE ADDRESSING THE SYSTEM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THE SYSTEM AND WE'LL PRESENT GOVERNOR WITH OUR PLAN TO FIX THE SYSTEM AS WE STRATEGICALLY DO IT EVEN AS MR. HEADLEY SAID YOU KNOW THAT PLANT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE UNTIL 2030. IT'S HEADLEY RIGHT. I KNOW HE'S LISTENING TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. EVEN IF THAT PLAN ISN'T UNTIL 2030 IF THEY HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE AND THEY'RE ON IT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE PAYING THE PENALTIES THEY'RE GONNA SHOW THAT THEY'RE PUTTING REVENUE THERE AND NOT PAYING FOR LET'S JUST USE ASTROTURF BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER WORD FOR IT RIGHT NOW. OK SO THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT MONEY'S DEDICATED TO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DEDICATED TO. SO FOR ME I'M OKAY WITH IT WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THAT BECAUSE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY RULES THE END OF THE DAY. I'M FINE I'M FINE WITH VOTING FOR THIS RIGHT NOW. SO. OK. WELL IT IS UP TO COUNCILMAN BAILEY. OH I MEAN THAT THE VOTES ARE THERE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE SUPPORT TONIGHT MAYOR AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS CONSENSUS. I DO WANT TO FINISH WITH THIS I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF THIS BEING IMPERFECT I STILL I STILL THINK IT'S SATISFACTORY FOR ME TO SUPPORT IT IN THE STATE THAT IT IS. I THINK THAT THE STATEMENT OF POLICY IS TODAY. THE STATE OF THE POLICY IS TODAY MARCH 21ST 2019. THAT DOESN'T MEAN SOMETHING REALLY BAD HAPPENS AND IF THERE'S A CHANGE TO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. THAT'S AN AMENDMENT SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH IT.

YOU LOST ALL NEGOTIATING POWER. MAYOR WITH ALL DUE RESPECT NO NOT ONE OF US ARE GOING UP THERE AND NEGOTIATING WITH A MAJORITY OF THAT OF THAT THAT HOUSE OR EITHER BODY. I MEAN I THINK YOU'RE OVERSELLING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RESOLUTION. THE RESOLUTION IS A STATEMENT OF OUR POSITION IS NOT A MATTER OF WE'RE GOING TO GO UP THERE AND TELL TALLAHASSEE WHAT TO DO. THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I CAN TELL THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN UP THERE AS OFTEN AS I HAVE.

YOU CAN MAKE THAT STATEMENT BUT I'VE BEEN IN STATE HOUSES I'VE WORKED IN THE CONGRESS. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S THAT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM ANNAPOLIS OR DC FROM TALLAHASSEE. SO I DON'T. SO I WOULDN'T GO TOO FAR DOWN THAT ROAD OF SAYING ABOUT ABOUT EXPERIENCE. I KNOW EXACTLY EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS OUT OK. IF YOU GO WITH THAT.

YOU GAVE AWAY YOUR YOUR NEGOTIATING CHIP. THAT'S ALL THAT I'M SAYING BUT I'M GOING TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSE SAY NAY. NAY. SO I DIDN'T HEAR. OK. ITEM BACK TO ITEM NUMBER ONE. MAYOR I DID A REVIEW AND ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PUBLISHING AND NEWSPAPER ARE ACTUALLY DELETED THE ONLY THING THAT'S REINSERTED AS FAR AS A NEWSPAPER IS AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR. WE WOULD HAVE TO PUBLISH IN A NEWSPAPER SOMETHING UNLESS THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THEY CAN REQUEST BE ON A MAILING LISTS BUT ALL THE OTHER PROVISIONS THAT PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED MAILING UP PUBLISHING IN A NEWSPAPER AND PROVIDED THE FORMAT ET CETERA ARE DELETED. OK. WELL WITH THAT BEING SAID AGAIN YOU KNOW I THINK IT WAS AID UP HERE. NO BILL IS PERFECT. YOU KNOW BEING PRESENTED INITIALLY BUT THE CONCEPT IS IS SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORT GOING FORWARD. AND SO I'M STILL GOING TO SUPPORT

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THIS. BUT I'LL WAIT FOR THE WISDOM OF THE COUNCIL. WELL YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. OH OK WELL I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 19 - 0 9. SECOND.

SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR ANDERSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION COUNCIL. ONCE  AGAIN I FEEL IN THE PREVIOUS COMMENT I WANT TO STAY AHEAD AND NOT BEHIND BUT I THINK WAITING POSSIBLY TABLING TILL WE SEE SOMETHING FINAL WE'LL HAVE A SIDE BY SIDE NOT BEHIND NOT IN FRONT BUT SIDE BY SIDE WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN WAS THE MAIL OPTION BEING THAT IT ENDS UP COSTING MORE. THAT'S WHY I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN. BUT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO LIMIT THAT. YEAH THEN THAT THAT'LL BE A BETTER OUTCOME. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN TABLE THAT AT A LATER TIME BECAUSE IN FACT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH THE LAST ITEM I HATE TO GO BACK. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN. DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO SEND OUT A NOTICE WITH WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT. ARE YOU ASKING ME THAT QUESTION OR STAFF? WHOEVER COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO OR STAFF DO WE KNOW. I'LL DEFER TO STAFF ON THAT.

IT DEPENDS ON THE NOTICE. SO IF IT'S A POSTCARD THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER BUT FIRST CLASS MAIL PRINTED STUFFED ENVELOPE SLAPPED ON. I THINK YOUR AVERAGE COST OF A BILL WHEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT E BILLING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT OUR UTILITY CUSTOMERS HOW MANY PEOPLE SIGN UP AND THEY REALLY LIKE THEIR PAPER BILL COST US A LOT OF MONEY. I THINK WE SPEND 190 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR AT LEAST IN THAT BALLPARK JUST TO MAIL OUT BILLS STILL TO OUR CUSTOMERS AND WE'VE HAD E BILLING FOR A DECADE. SO PEOPLE NOT NECESSARILY ELECTRONIC HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY AS MUCH AS WE THINK WE ARE. AND I WILL THROW OUT ONE OTHER THING RELATED TO THE BILL THAT I MAY HAVE MIGHT HAVE MIGHT HAVE HELPED EARLIER. DO YOU WANT ADVISE COUNCIL THAT WE ARE UNDERNEATH A ADA ACCESSIBILITY WEBSITE DILEMMA FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. SO WE ARE GOING TO POST IT OUT THERE THEN YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL YOUR NOTICES ARE ADA AND THEN THE DATABASE BEHIND THAT YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO STORE AND ARCHIVE ALL THOSE PUBLIC NOTICES HAS TO BE RETAINED FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. SO TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT BUT NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS EQUITABLE. IF YOU'RE ONLY SPENDING 34 THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR IN PRINT. JUST MY TWO CENTS. OH THANK YOU I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN. AND THAT'S MY CONCERN AT LEAST.

BUT IF I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO THE REPRESENTATIVES OR WHATEVER BUT IF THEY WILL FIND A WAY TO LIMIT YOU KNOW WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO SPEND. I WOULD BE MORE SUPPORTIVE ON THIS AS WELL. SO I STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT TABLED AT A LATER EVENT LATER A LATER MEETING BUT IT'S THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL AND SANTIAGO. YOU KNOW MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND A SECOND. SO UNLESS COUNCILMAN SANTIAGO WANTS TO PULL IT. MAYOR I MEAN WELL WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK IS THAT WE I MEAN IT JUST DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE REALLY HAVING GOOD COST ESTIMATES BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS SOME ESTIMATES ON HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST AT DIFFERENT LEVELS. I DON'T THINK THAT 1 PERCENT IS GOING TO BE AS LIKELY BUT IT'S CERTAINLY KIND OF SCARY THERE. I THINK MR. HEADLEY GAVE US THAT ONE. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FROM STAFF ANALYSIS DO YOU GUYS HAVE THAT. YOU GUYS LOOK AT THAT AT ANY LEVEL AND NO KIND OF ESTIMATE WHAT YOU THINK THE LIABILITY IS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VIEWERSHIP IN THE PAPER IS.

SO I WON'T HAVE A MULTIPLIER. I COULD SAY WE HAVE 47 THOUSAND HOUSEHOLDS WE 115 THOUSAND PEOPLE IN PALM BAY. BUT THEN LEGAL NOTICES DOES IT APPLY APPLY TO ANYBODY THAT'S IN MAYBE ORLANDO OR CHECKING LEGAL ADS FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING FOR P&Z OR DEVELOPMENT SO I WOULD BE A DIFFICULT QUANTIFIABLE FOR A MULTIPLIER. I'M JUST THINKING THROUGH A LITTLE BIT HERE AS YOU ASK A QUESTION TOO. BUT IT'S NOT REALLY COMING TO FRUITION.  BASED ON THOSE THAT SIGN UP. RIGHT. AND THAT'S JUST IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO ESTIMATE. I REALLY THINK ONE PERCENT BY ACTION OVER ESTIMATE OF IT BUT YEAH OR I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THAT'S THE SCARY PART. I JUST I KNOW. YEAH. WE DO ADVERTISE IN TRADER JAKES. WE DON'T ACTUALLY ADVERTISE IN FLORIDA TODAY BECAUSE TRADER JAKES WAS A DIRECTION OF COUNCIL BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAPER. IT'S LIKE A PAPER THAT'S A DOLLAR. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY PICK IT UP. I MEAN I THINK MORE PEOPLE SEE THE SIGNS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO POST ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT SAY COMING SOON BUT NOT REALLY COMING SOON JUST SAYS PZ CASE NUMBER BLAH BLAH BLAH. AND YOU CALL CITY HALL AND GO IS THAT AN IKEA AND WE GO NO IT'S NOT. IT'S A GAS STATION. I'M SORRY. I MEAN THAT I WOULD SAY WE GET MORE CALLS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON THE CORNER OF THAT THAN THEY ACTUAL FOR THE LEGAL ADS. I JUST I WANTED TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT THIS DOESN'T TELL US NOT TO PUBLISH IN THE PAPER IF WE

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WANT TO PUBLISH IN THE PAPER WE CAN. THIS SAYS THAT THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES WE CAN EXPLORE THAT MAY BE CHEAPER. SO THIS JUST OPENS THE DOOR FOR US TO DO OTHER THINGS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YES MA'AM. ALL THE PARTS OF THE STATUTE THEY SAID YOU KNOW PUBLISH IN NEWSPAPER ARE DELETED AND REPLACED WITH DO IT ON THE WEB OR A DIFFERENT PLACE. SO IT IN ITS CURRENT VERSION WHEN IT TELLS US HOW WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY DO LEGAL NOTICES IT DOESN'T REALLY GIVE YOU THE OPTION OF PUBLISHING IN NEWSPAPER IN ITS CURRENT FORM. IT MAKE A CHANGE WHERE IT CONTINUES TO HAVE THAT OPTION AND YOU CAN USE THIS IN ADDITION OR IS THAT BUT IN ITS CURRENT FORM EVERY PLACE WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER HAS BEEN DELETED. YEAH WELL. OH GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY I'M SORRY COUNCILMAN. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY I I TOOK A CHANCE WHEN WE WERE KIND OF DEBATING WHAT WE WERE DOING EARLIER TO PULL BOTH OF THEM UP THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE VERSION AND THAT WAS WHEN I SAW AS WELL. I MEAN I WOULD TRUST PATRICIA'S ANALYSIS OVER MINE RIGHT ESPECIALLY RIGHT THIS SECOND THE MEETING AND BEING TIRED BUT THAT'S THE SAME THING I SEE AND THAT'S THAT'S A BIT OF A RED FLAG. I THINK IF WAS EITHER WORK NO HARM NO FOUL JUST EXPANDING US AND THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE THE ROLLOUT SHOULD BE WE'RE MOVING TO THE 21ST CENTURY. WE WANT TO GO TO WEB BASED ONLINE. LET'S ALLOW CITIES TO START INTRODUCING IT AS AT THEIR OWN PACE. SO IT'S NOT A BECAUSE THE WHOLE POINT OF THE POINTS OF THIS WAS TO TAKE AWAY AN UNFUNDED UNFUNDED MANDATE. WHAT I'M HEARING NOW IS A HUGE LIKELIHOOD THIS IS GONNA BE A LARGER UNFUNDED MANDATE EVEN A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR IT EVEN IF THERE'S A HALF A PERCENT THAT'S STILL GOING TO COST MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE SPENDING RIGHT NOW AND SIGNIFICANTLY AND THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING CAUGHT UP ON THIS IF IT WAS JUST ALLOWING US TO THE OPTION OF DOING IT BY THE WEB SITE AND TRYING IT OUT AND THEN WE COULD WE COULD MAKE THAT DECISION OURSELVES AND WE COULD STOP AT ANY POINT TIME WE'D SAY WELL THIS ISN'T WORKING WE'RE NOT WE DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET FOR IT LET'S GO BACK THE OTHER WAY I'D BE FINE WITH THAT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE BUT UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T SEE THAT IN THE BILL WHICH IS MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SUPPORT THE RESOLUTION AS IT IS. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT I UNDERSTAND. AND YOU KNOW I WILL SAY THIS. I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT NO ONE YOU KNOW WELL FOR EXAMPLE WE WENT FROM FLORIDA TODAY TO TRADER JAKE'S. YOU KNOW THERE HAS BEEN DECLINING SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR YOU KNOW PAPER NEWSPAPERS YOU KNOW AND MORE GOING ON TO ONLINE. I YOU KNOW I FEEL COMFORTABLE BECAUSE YOU KNOW AND I FEEL THE SAME WAY YOU DO. 1 PERCENT COULD BE AN OVERESTIMATION. YOU KNOW IT COULD BE IT COULD BE WAY LESS THAN THAT. DO I KNOW AN EXACT NUMBER. NO. IS IT 1 PERCENT. PROBABLY NOT EITHER. BUT BUT AGAIN YOU KNOW I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT AND I THINK I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS IT GOING TO END UP BEING EXACTLY WHAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU STATE. SO I'M I'M FINE WITH THAT. HOWEVER IF YOU IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH TABLING THIS AND WAITING UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I'M FINE WITH THAT TOO. I MEAN I CAN I CAN DO THAT IF IT'S PALATABLE TO THE REST OF COUNCIL. I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ASKED FOR HIM FOR HIM TO LOOK OUT MORE BUT FOR ME WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF IT FOR ME WOULD BE TO ASK STAFF TO GO BACK FIND THE BREAK EVEN POINT NOW AND TRY TO FIND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAD TO SIGN UP TO EQUAL TO EQUATE KNOW THE 34 THOUSAND DOLLARS WE SPENT NOW AND THEN JUDGE IT BY THAT NUMBER AND SAY DO WE THINK THAT THAT NUMBER WHERE DO WE THINK IS GOING TO BE IN RESPECT THAT NUMBER. AND I GUESS THE OTHER GOOD THING THAT AFFORDS US THEN TWO WEEKS MAYBE THE BILL DOES GET IMPROVED AND HOPEFULLY BRIAN OR THE DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DISCUSSES THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TURN. I THINK EVERYBODY APPRECIATES THE IDEA OF GOING ONLINE RIGHT. I MEAN MAYOR DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE CITY DOING NOTICES THAT WAY IF IT DOESN'T COST US MORE. SO. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HOPE MAYBE WE KIND OF GIVE OUR DIRECTION TO OUR COUNCIL OUR COLLEAGUES HERE TO GO UP THERE AND TRY TO GET THAT WORKED OUT NEXT WEEK.

LET'S SEE HOW MUCH BARGAINING LET'S SEE THEM GO THERE THE BARGAINING CHIPS AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN GET DONE BEFORE WE'VE SUPPORT IT. I HOPE THOSE BARGAINING CHIPS DON'T WEIGH TOO MUCH. BUT I WILL DO THAT I AGREE WITH THE TABLING OF IT AND I WILL MEET WITH REPRESENTATIVE FINE AND THEN THE SENATE COMPANION BILL TO WORK OUT THAT. SO SO I WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND I MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 19 - 09  UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. SECOND. DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION

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COUNCIL. IF NOT I'M GONNA TO CALL IT ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. OKAY. ITEM TABLED.

ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL. MRS MORRELL. JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER. OUR

[Adminstrative And Legal Reports]

TRASH BASH APRIL 6TH SATURDAY 8 TO 12. COME ON OUT AND CLEAN UP PALM BAY WITH THE KBB. KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL MRS. SMITH. NO REPORTS. OK PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANY CARDS ANY

[Public Comments/Responses]

EVERYBODY'S WAVING. OKAY GO AHEAD. BILL FIRST. BILL BATTIN 586 OCEAN SPRAY ST. FIRST I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END OF A MEETING LIKE THIS BECAUSE SO MANY OTHER PLACES DON'T. IT REALLY DOES GIVE ME A CHANCE TO ADDRESS BACK TO MY GOVERNMENT WHICH IS REALLY A VERY NICE THING I KNOW SO MANY OTHER PLACES DON'T HAVE THAT. BUT THAT BEING SAID NOW I'M GOING TO DO IT. GO FOR IT. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOME RULE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH HOME RULE. WELL LAST TWO ITEMS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST I DIDN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE CLOCK. I WAS AFRAID OUR HAS NO OPERATION WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF IT'S YOU'RE EXPRESSING YOUR OPINION ON WHETHER YOU LIKE A BILL OR DON'T LIKE A BILL. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY EFFECT ON HOW WE OPERATE. IF THE LAW PASSES WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. IT DOESN'T PASS. WE DON'T HAVE TO. YOU'RE EXPRESSING YOUR OPINION OF WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING UP IN TALLAHASSEE.

GREAT. WELL THAT'S UP TO YOU. BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID SUPPORT OF A BILL. YOU HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO LET THE REPRESENTATIVE KNOW YOU SUPPORT IT OR YOU DON'T SUPPORT IT. YOU COULD DO THAT BUT WHEN YOU START SAYING PALM BAY SUPPORTS IT YOU'RE SPEAKING FOR ME AND MOST EVERYTHING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT I DON'T SUPPORT RIGHT OUT OF THE BAT. SO NOW THAT MEANS I'VE GOT A CALL. CALL MY REPRESENTATIVE AND SAY THE CITY SAID IT BUT I DON'T. SO NOW NOW THAT MEANS MORE TIME I GOT IT'S BEEN ON THE PHONE BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTION. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO SEE WITH THIS IS WHEN WE'RE PASSING A VOTE SAYING YAY OR NAY. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO GET A SHOW OF HANDS. BECAUSE I KEEP TRACK OF WHO DOES WHAT.

IF IT BE AT ALL POSSIBLE BECAUSE I SAY YAY OR NAY WHO SAID NAY. AND WHO IS IN FAVOR.

WE NEVER KNOW. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING THAT SAYS YEAH I'M TAKEN OWNERSHIP IN IT I VOTE YAY OR I VOTE NAY. I'D LIKE TO SEE OWNERSHIP IN WHAT'S BEING SAID UP THERE INSTEAD OF ALL DONE. BUT THAT BEING SAID I REALLY APOLOGIZE FOR TYING UP THE NIGHT.

BUT PLEASE DON'T SPEAK FOR ME AND MY REPRESENTATIVES BECAUSE I WANT EVEN LESS GOVERNMENT AND ALL I'M SEEING IS MORE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BILL. STEVE HEADLEY.

RESIDENT. 3 THINGS. THE IDEA THAT YOU COULD KEEP THE SAME SYSTEM THAT YOU HAVE NOW FOR THE NOTICES IS NOT THERE. AS IT IS NOW AND I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT MRS. SMITH IS FOUND ALTHOUGH SHE'S CORRECT KIND OF MAKES YOU WONDER THAT I WOULD NEVER SAY THAT.

JUST KIDDING. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WHAT THIS REPLACES IS A STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THE NEWSPAPERS TO MAINTAIN A DATABASE THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY ACROSS THE STATE. IT'S ONE STOP SHOPPING. THAT'S WHAT'S THERE NOW. SO ALL THIS IDEA OF MAINTAINING YOUR OWN DATABASE IT'S THERE IT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT'S KIND OF COOL YOU GO THERE YOU CAN SEARCH BY YOUR NEWSPAPER YOU CAN SEARCH BY YOUR AREA AND IT ALSO MEANS THAT TRADER JAKES OR TRADER JOHN'S WHATEVER IT IS. MR. HEADLEY. THEY HAVE TO PUT THAT IN THERE. THEY HAVE TO FLORIDA TODAY HAS TO PUT IT IN THAT DATABASE. THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. SO THAT'S THE OTHER PORTION OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. WE INCUR MORE COST TO GET AWAY FROM THE CURRENT SYSTEM FOR SECONDARY SECOND THING. MR. BAILEY I APOLOGIZE IF I GAVE YOU THE IDEA THAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE PERSON BEHIND THE RULE OR WHATEVER. THAT WAS NOT WHAT WAS SAID. IT'S HARD SOMETIMES TO GET SOMETHING OUT WITHIN THREE MINUTES. MR. JOHNSON YOU MENTIONED A PHONE. I SUSPECT SIR THAT YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT A POST FROM A CERTAIN STATE REPRESENTATIVE THAT AND I BELIEVE YOU MIGHT BE HE MIGHT HAVE MENTIONED THAT HE GAVE YOU OUT YOUR PERSONAL TELEPHONE. I CAN TELL YOU SIR THAT THAT WAS DESPICABLE NOT YOU. HIS ACTIONS. OK. AND I WILL TELL HIM THAT IF I SEE HIM AND I AM TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAVE A CITY PHONE AND YOU HAVE A PERSONAL PHONE AND AS LONG AS YOU WERE AWARE OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS THAT APPLY TO THAT CITY PHONE OR THAT PERSONAL PHONE

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I DON'T CARE. BUT THAT POST HE MADE THAT POST THAT REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINE MADE WAS DESPICABLE AND DESIGNED TO INSULT AND EMBARRASS YOU. I PREFER IF THE MAN JUST BUILD HIS DOGGONE HOUSE INSTEAD OF RAISING IT IN JULY OF LAST YEAR. SO I APOLOGIZE.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. TALK TO YOU LATER. THANK YOU DEPUTY MAYOR. YOU WANTED TO ADD. I DID I JUST WANTED TO APPOINT KEVIN REED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND NANCY WELLINGTON TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE TRASH BASH APRIL 6TH. OH YOU WANTED. BATTER UP. I DIDN'T SEE YOU. PHIL WEINBERG 466 SCANLON RD.

SURPRISINGLY ONE OF THE FEW TIMES I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH BILL ALTHOUGH I DO OCCASIONALLY IS WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE WHEN YOU WANT TO SUPPORT A BILL DO SO AS AN INDIVIDUAL WHEN YOU'RE SITTING UP THERE FOLKS YOU'RE REPRESENTING  115 THOUSAND PEOPLE OUT HERE. SOMEWHAT ARROGANT SOMEWHAT ARROGANT TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF FOR YOUR OWN OPINION. SECONDLY AND NO INSULT COUNCILMAN BAILEY.

BUT WHEN YOU SAID WELL YOU HOPE THIS BILL IN ITS FINAL FORM WILL BE GOOD. WOW. YES VOTE TO SUPPORT A BILL CAUSE YOU HOPE IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD. WHY DON'T YOU WAIT TILL IT'S IN ITS FINAL FORM. IF YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS DAIS TO SUPPORT A BILL WAIT TILL IT'S IN ITS FINAL FORM TO SEE WHETHER IT IS A GOOD BILL. NOT VOTING TO SUPPORT A BILL THAT YOU HOPE IS GOING TO BE GOOD. THAT'S PRETTY FOOLISH. THANK YOU. MAYOR, REAL QUICK. I WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION. I BELIEVE WHEN I SAID AND MAYBE I DIDN'T. FORGIVE ME BUT I BELIEVE I SAID WAS A BETTER BILL OR THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD IN THE END IT DOESN'T GET PERVERTED FROM WHERE IT'S AT NOW WHERE IT STANDS NOW I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. SO THAT'S THAT WAS THE CLEAR THING FOR TONIGHT WHERE IT STANDS NOW I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT. IF THERE'S BAD AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES MADE TO IT JUST DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE SUPPORT IT TONIGHT BECAUSE THE AMENDMENTS AREN'T THERE TONIGHT. SO AT LEAST THAT'S THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE. OK. ON THAT NOTE MEETING ADJOURNED.



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