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TWO. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2023 DASH 21 TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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UH, THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

CAN YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? PLEASE FACE THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

I'D LIKE THESE FLAGS ADJUSTED TO THE WAY THEY WERE BACK IN THE DAY.

OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, PLEASE.

I DON'T KNOW. OKAY.

ROLL CALL, MISS JONES.

MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS BY PHONE HERE.

MISS SHERMAN HERE.

MISS SMITH HERE.

SO WE'RE ON COMMENTARY BY STAFF.

[COMMENTARY BY STAFF]

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO TO START TONIGHT, I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE ANGELICA COLLINS, OUR BUDGET ADMINISTRATOR, COME UP AND PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE BUDGET.

WE DID HAVE QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION AT THE PRIOR BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND SHE'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU A RECAP OF THAT AND ALSO GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS ABOUT OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM THAT YOU DID NOT PREVIOUSLY SEE.

AND THEN WE WILL START GOING THROUGH THE STEPS OF THE FIRST READINGS FOR ADOPTION.

YOU WANT ME DO THAT FIRST? OKAY.

SHE'S TELLING ME I HAVE TO READ MY SCRIPT FIRST, SO I'LL DO THAT.

AND SINCE WE HAVE THE NEW AUDIO, IF I'M BEING REALLY LOUD, I HOPE SOMEONE WILL ADJUST ME BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I'M PROJECTING QUITE WELL TONIGHT.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS TENTATIVELY ADOPTED AN OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5995 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.

THE TENTATIVE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.5995 EXCEEDS THE TRIM CURRENT YEAR AGGREGATE ROLLBACK RATE OF 6.8183 BY 11.46%.

THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE BEING ABOVE THE 3% CAP IS CAUSED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE 3% CAP.

CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE INCREASE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE IS 2.1 MILLION IN HIGH PRIORITY FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS REQUIRING PAYMENT 3.7 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING REQUIRED RADIO REPLACEMENTS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS AND FUNDING TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION SEVEN.

ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND INVESTMENTS TOTALING 2.75 MILLION FUNDING REQUIRED FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION CONTRIBUTION OBLIGATIONS OF 6.7 MILLION, RESULTING IN A 38.2% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR AND 2.3 MILLION IN PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENTS, INCLUDING NINE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND EIGHT ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS ALSO TENTATIVELY ADOPTED A DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF 0.9084 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.

THE TENTATIVE DEBT MILLAGE RATE SHALL GENERATE ESTIMATED REVENUES TOTALING $6,972,219, BASED ON THE GROSS TAXABLE VALUE CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

ASSUMING AN ESTIMATED 96% COLLECTION RATE, THESE REVENUES ARE RESTRICTED AND ARE DESIGNATED FOR PAYMENT OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2019.

DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,526,250 AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2021.

DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,446,150, BOTH DUE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET YEAR.

ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS ARE INVITED TO ATTEND A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE TO BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2023, AT 6 P.M.

IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

32907. A FINAL DECISION ON THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE MADE AT THIS HEARING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME.

[PUBLIC HEARING]

AND MA'AM, GO AHEAD AND PRESENT THIS ITEM.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS ANGELICA COLLINS.

I'M THE BUDGET ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

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AND AS YOU KNOW, MY PRIMARY JOB IS TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, ADOPTION FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE.

USUALLY THIS IS MY LAST TIME FOR FOR ME COMING UP TO PRESENT.

SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY SITTING ON THE DAIS, OUR CITY MANAGER, OUR CITY COUNCIL, DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS AND ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS WHO WORK TIRELESSLY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR TO GET US TO THIS POINT.

IT'S A LOT TO UNDERTAKE, AND I'M ALWAYS EXCITED WHEN WE GET TO THIS POINT BECAUSE WE KIND OF WRAP THINGS UP.

BUT I JUST WANT TO ALWAYS SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE TIME AND DEDICATION OF WORKING WITH WITH MYSELF AND MY BUDGET ANALYST AND GETTING TO THIS POINT.

SO TONIGHT I AM GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THIS PRESENTATION BRIEF.

IT IS ESSENTIALLY A RECAP OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD PROPOSED AT OUR PREVIOUS BUDGET WORKSHOP, PLUS SOME ADJUSTMENTS, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE TONIGHT.

SO YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO ASK QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT OR WAIT UNTIL THE END.

BUT AGAIN, IT IS A RECAP AND IT'S MORE OF A HIGH LEVEL PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BE ADOPTED AT THE SEPTEMBER 20TH FINAL PUBLIC HEARING. SO OUR TOPIC OF AGENDA THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS OUR UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 24 IMPORTANT NUMBERS. WE'RE GOING TO DO A RECAP, THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH CHANGES.

ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS, IS JULY 28TH IS WHEN THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS PUBLISHED.

USUALLY SOME OF THE REVISIONS THAT HAPPEN IN FLORIDA STATUTE, I DO HAVE TO DISCLOSE THOSE, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND HIGHLIGHT THOSE.

THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HEAVILY FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE AS THE MILLAGE RATES THAT WE PLAN ON PROPOSING TO BE ADOPTED AT THE NEXT HEARING HAS DIRECT IMPACT ON THE GENERAL FUND, THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO A REVIEW ON WHAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY FUNDED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON OUR CONTINUED FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND, SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON AT TOMORROW NIGHT'S HEARING, TOMORROW NIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING, AND JUST SOME FOCUS THAT WE STILL HAVE GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR.

AND THEN WE JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME LAST IMPORTANT DATES THAT WE HAVE COMING UP AND THEN WE'LL WRAP IT UP.

SO OUR IMPORTANT NUMBERS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS THAT, AS YOU KNOW, WE DID PROPOSE A RATE OF 7.5995.

THAT IS WHAT WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED.

WE HAD BUILT THE BUDGET ON THE 3% CAP RATE, WHICH IS 7.0171.

SO ALL THE NUMBERS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, YOU WILL SEE THAT TONIGHT IS BASED ON YOUR 3% CAP.

OUR VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE IS 0.9084.

GENERALLY, THERE'S LITTLE FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT SINCE WHAT WE DO IS WE SET THE RATE ENOUGH TO GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO PAY OUR PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS ON THOSE TWO BONDS. I KNOW WE JUST WENT OUT AND FOR THE ISSUANCE OF OUR THIRD BOND, THAT DOES NOT IMPACT THIS BUDGET.

IT WILL THE NEXT YEAR.

SO COME FISCAL YEAR 25, YOU WILL SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS IN THOSE BUDGET PROCESSES AS WELL.

JUST A REMINDER, OUR GENERAL FUND TWO MONTH OPERATING MINIMUM REQUIREMENT IS AROUND 16.7%, WHICH PUTS IT AT ABOUT $15.4 MILLION.

SO PER OUR FINANCIAL POLICIES, WE HAVE TO HAVE AN UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE THROUGHOUT THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR OF THAT AMOUNT.

AND THEN WE ALSO PROVIDE THE THREE DIFFERENT PERCENTAGE STABILIZATION FUND OPTIONS GOING FROM 2% OF 693,000 TO 4% OF ABOUT 1.4 MILLION.

SO OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS TO HAVE THAT ALSO SET ASIDE FOR ANY EMERGENCIES THAT MAY COME UP.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO PUT INTO THE BUDGET.

OUR PROPOSED BUDGET WITH CHANGES.

SO THIS IS FOR MY REQUIRED DISCLOSURES.

SO THESE ARE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE PROPOSED BUDGET WAS PUBLISHED ON JULY 28TH.

THEY'RE HONESTLY JUST CORRECTIONS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE UTILITIES OPERATING FUND, IN THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND.

SO THE GENERAL FUND WAS NOT TOUCHED.

SO WHATEVER WAS PROPOSED IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT AS WELL.

SO IN GENERAL, THERE WAS AN INCREASE OF $20,000 OF THE CITYWIDE BUDGET.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $322.8 MILLION, 20,000 IS MINIMAL.

AND THIS WAS IN THE RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND MAINLY BECAUSE WE HAD SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON A PROJECT.

SO IT'S REALLY A 0.3% INCREASE.

BUT I DO HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT WE DID SOME CHANGES IN THE UTILITIES OPERATING FUND TOTALING ABOUT $156,000.

THERE WERE RESERVES IN THE UTILITIES FUND.

THAT JUST MEANS THAT THEY'RE TAKING IN MORE REVENUE THAN THEY'RE EXPENDING, ANTICIPATING TO SPEND.

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SO IN THE END, IT WAS A WASH.

SO THERE REALLY WASN'T AN OVERALL BUDGET IMPACT, BUT I WILL DISCLOSE THAT AS WELL.

AND AS MENTIONED, THERE WERE NO REVISIONS IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE TOTAL FOR THE GENERAL FUND STILL REMAINS AT 100 AND $105.8 MILLION.

YOUR NEXT SLIDE.

SIMPLY JUST DETAILS WHAT I JUST SUMMARIZED.

SO AS I MENTIONED IN THE UTILITIES OPERATING FUND, THERE WERE SOME ADJUSTMENTS OF $156,000.

WE HAD MISSED ON OUR END SOME CHEMICAL INCREASES FOR WATER AND WATER DISTRIBUTION DIVISIONS, AND THERE WERE SOME PERSONNEL CORRECTIONS WHERE THE PERSONNEL WAS ADDED.

WE MISSED ADDING THE PHONE USAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THERE WAS JUST SOME SHUFFLING AROUND.

AND THEN WITHIN THE UTILITIES RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND, THERE WAS AN INCREASE BECAUSE WE HAD MISSED AN ALLOCATION FOR REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND ADDED THOSE.

SO IN GENERAL, JUST THE BUDGET DID CHANGE.

SO I DO HAVE TO DISCLOSE THAT.

AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES THAT WE HAVE MADE TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET SINCE PUBLICATION ON JULY 28TH.

OUR CITYWIDE BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 TOTALS $322.8 MILLION.

AS YOU SEE, THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS, AS I MENTIONED, IS $145.8 MILLION, IS THE LARGEST OPERATING FUND CITYWIDE AND ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 32.8% OF ALL CITYWIDE BUDGETS.

THEREAFTER, YOU HAVE UTILITIES OPERATING FUNDS COMES IN SORT OF SECOND AT ABOUT $55.7 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT 17.3%.

UTILITY FUNDS IS ALL COLLECTIVE FUNDS, WHICH IS THEIR OPERATING FUNDS AND ALL OF THE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS THEY HAVE.

AND THEN OUR GEO ROAD PROGRAM IS THIRD LARGEST THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY WITH ANTICIPATED EXPENDITURES OF $40.9 MILLION, WHICH IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 12.7%.

AND THIS DOES NOT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE THIRD BOND ISSUANCE AS OF TODAY.

SO THESE ARE ALL ANTICIPATED PROJECTS WITH STILL CASH THAT HAS BEEN ON HAND.

LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND OR HEAVILY ACTUALLY ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND, SINCE THE RATE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON YOUR AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAXATION.

OUR GENERAL FUND TOTALS $105.8 MILLION.

AND AS YOU SEE THE PROPERTY TAXES, WHICH IS THE AD VALOREM TAXATION, IS THE LARGEST REVENUE STREAM WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, TOTALING APPROXIMATELY $51.8 MILLION, WHICH IS ALMOST 50%.

IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT 48.9%.

SO THE RATES THAT WE TALK ABOUT AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, THE 3% CAP OR HAVING A PROPOSED RATE, THIS IS THE DIRECT IMPACT ON THE REVENUE STREAM WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND. THEN SECOND IN LINE, YOU HAVE YOUR STATE SHARED REVENUES.

SO YOU HAVE A COMBINATION OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AND YOUR COMMUNICATION SERVICE TAX AND YOUR SALES USE AND FUEL TAXES.

SO THAT IS ALL A COMBINED $22.2 MILLION AND COMBINED, THOSE ARE ALL YOUR STATE SHARED REVENUES.

SO THAT IS WHAT THE STATE DISCLOSES.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY BASED ON POPULATION, BASED ON CERTAIN USAGES, BASED ON CERTAIN SALES.

THAT IS THE REVENUE THAT THE STATE PROVIDES US WITH.

SO COLLECTIVELY, THAT IS USUALLY YOUR SECOND LARGEST REVENUE STREAM WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, YOU SEE A LARGE PORTION FOR TRANSFERS.

SO THAT DOES STICK OUT.

SO WE HAVE ABOUT $4.8 MILLION WORTH OF INCOMING TRANSFERS.

SO YOU MAY WONDER, WELL, WHERE ARE THOSE COMING FROM? SO WE DO HAVE BUILT IN $1.4 MILLION IN THE CRA RETURN.

SO AS YOU KNOW, THE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CRA OR THE CRA, WHATEVER'S UNSPENT COMES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN ONCE THE ACTUALS ARE KNOWN THE FOLLOWING YEAR, ONCE OUR DEPARTMENT DOES A RECONCILIATION, WE GO AHEAD AND BACK THAT OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.

AND WE HAVE BEEN SENDING THAT TO ROAD MAINTENANCE.

SO INITIALLY IT IS BUILT INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND THEN USUALLY IT IS COME JUNE.

SO STARTING WITH JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, ONCE OUR AUDITORS COME AND DO OUR OFFICIAL AUDIT OF THE BOOKS, WE KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL TRUE AMOUNT OF THE PREVIOUS YEAR FROM THE CRA WAS. AND THEN I GO AHEAD AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS AND THE CASH NEVER ACTUALLY COMES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

IT DIRECTLY GOES HAS BEEN GOING TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

WITHIN THAT 4.8 MILLION.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR $800,000 FROM UTILITIES.

SO UTILITIES DOES HAVE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING EVERY YEAR.

SO THAT IS 800,000 THAT IS STILL COMING IN TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN THE OTHER LARGE PORTION IS A $2.7 MILLION RETURN FROM OUR HEALTH INSURANCE FUND.

SO HOW THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND IS SORT OF BUILT AND IS BUILT ON USAGE AND ANTICIPATED FUTURE RATES OF WHAT OUR

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VENDORS SAY, WHAT WE COULD EXPECT, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE RATES ACTUALLY COME IN, IN LATER IN THE CALENDAR YEAR? IF WE DO A 5% ANTICIPATED INCREASE, THAT'S WHAT WE BUDGET FOR.

BUT THEN WHEN THE RATES ACTUALLY COME IN AT A 3% INCREASE, THEY ARE 2% SAVINGS.

SO THEY COLLECT IN THAT FUND UNTIL I GO BACK AND I DO ESSENTIALLY A RECONCILIATION SHERMAN AND THEN WHATEVER IS PAID INTO THAT FUND IS RETURNED BACK TO THE ORIGINATING SOURCE.

WE HAVEN'T DONE ONE IN THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND FOR A FEW YEARS AND I WANT TO SAY A FEW YEARS.

I WANT TO SAY MAYBE ABOUT TWO FISCAL YEARS.

AND WE WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL THE OFFICIAL AUDITORS CLOSED OUT AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS A RESERVES THAT THAT FUND DOES HAVE TO HAVE.

AND SO WE HAD BUILT IN THAT $2.7 MILLION COMING BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT AMOUNT IS GOING TO FIRE STATION SEVEN CONSTRUCTION.

SO IT IS COMING IN, BUT IT IS PRETTY MUCH ALREADY DEDICATED TO AN ACTUAL SOURCE OF EXPENSE.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE $105.8 MILLION A DIFFERENT WAY BASED ON TYPE.

SO AS YOU SEE, PERSONNEL ACCOUNTS FOR A LITTLE OVER 68% OF THE ENTIRE BUDGET.

SO OUT OF THAT 105.8 MILLION, 72 MILLION IS DEDICATED TOWARDS PERSONNEL.

SO THIS IS SALARIES, BENEFITS, RETIREMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE THE PENSIONS FOR FIRE AND POLICE.

SO ANYTHING THAT PERSONNEL NEEDS OR ANY TYPE OF CERTIFICATIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT IS REQUIRED AS PART OF UNION CONTRACTS OR PERSONNEL RULES.

SO THAT IS ALL YOUR PERSONNEL.

SO THAT IS THE LARGEST CHUNK THAT THE EXPENDITURES DO GO TO IS THE PERSONNEL AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

THEY ARE ESPECIALLY POLICE, THEY ARE OUR LARGEST DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO PUBLIC SAFETY OUT OF THAT AMOUNT IS ACTUALLY 48.9 MILLION.

SO THAT IS ALL OF YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS AND ALL THE SUPPORT STAFF WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEN AGAIN, YOU DO SEE THE ROAD MAINTENANCE TRANSFER OF 2.75 MILLION.

THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

PREVIOUS YEAR, WE HAD A $1 MILLION TRANSFER TO ALLOCATION GOING OVER.

SO WE HAVE INCREASED THAT TO 2.75 MILLION AND THEN THAT 6.7 MILLION OF INTERFUND TRANSFERS, THAT IS YOUR DEBT SERVICE.

SO WHATEVER THE GENERAL FUND HAS REQUIRED TO COMMITTING TO DEBT SERVICE, WHAT WE DO IS WE TRANSFER THAT OUT TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUNDS TO PAY ALL THE GENERAL FUND REQUIRED DEBT SERVICE.

THERE IS $360,000 THAT IS GOING TO OUR COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A MATCH FOR WE'RE DOING SOME POLICE RANGE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THE GENERAL FUND PORTION IS 360,000 OF THAT.

SO INSTEAD OF EXPENSING THAT IN THE GENERAL FUND, IT GETS SENT TO A DIFFERENT FUND AS PART OF A COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.

BUT OUT OF THAT 6.7, 6.4 IS ESSENTIALLY DEBT SERVICE THAT DOES HAVE TO BE PAID.

ALL RIGHT. LET'S LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND IN ANOTHER WAY SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT BASED ON A DEPARTMENT TYPE.

SO THAT $105.8 MILLION, AS YOU SEE PUBLIC SAFETY, WHICH IS OUR FIRE AND FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS, ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 52% OF THE BUDGET. AND THIS IS PERSONNEL OPERATING ANY TYPE OF CAPITAL.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS A COMPLETE SET.

SO THAT IS 52, ABOUT 52%, WHICH TOTALS ABOUT $54.9 MILLION.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ABOUT WHAT GENERAL GOVERNMENT IS.

GENERAL GOVERNMENT ISN'T NECESSARILY A DEPARTMENT.

WHAT THAT IS, IS THAT WHAT WE DO IS THAT THE GENERAL FUND HAS CERTAIN BILLS THAT IT PAYS THAT IMPACTS ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT OPERATE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO THE LARGEST THINGS OF THAT 16 MILLION IS YOU HAVE YOUR LIABILITY AND PROPERTY INSURANCE, WHICH IMPACTS ALL THOSE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS 2.9 MILLION. WE HAVE FLEET OPERATING CHARGES WHICH ARE 3.9 MILLION.

SO WHAT THAT IS, IS ANY DEPARTMENT THAT OPERATES IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHATEVER, IF THEY HAVE VEHICLES, IF THOSE ARE SERVICED, THOSE ARE SERVICED BY OUR FLEET SERVICES FUND.

AND THERE'S AN ALLOCATION.

ESSENTIALLY, THE GENERAL FUND SENDS OVER 3.9 MILLION TO PERFORM SERVICES AND MAINTENANCE ON ALL THE VEHICLES FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR.

WE DO HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE, SO THAT'S 6.4 WE TALKED ABOUT.

THAT IS ALSO WITHIN THAT GENERAL GOVERNMENT SORT OF DESIGNATION AND THE ROAD MAINTENANCE TRANSFER.

SO IT'S 2.75 MILLION.

SO INSTEAD OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE TRANSFER BEING UNDER PUBLIC WORKS OR THE DEBT SERVICE BEING UNDER FINANCE, WE GROUP IT UNDER THIS GENERAL GOVERNMENT TYPE

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OF DISCLOSURE, MEANING THAT IT'S REALLY IMPACTING VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

SO THAT WAY WE DON'T OVERINFLATE OR UNDER INFLATE ANY TYPE OF PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT.

THIS SLIDE IS REALLY JUST A RECAP.

YOU SHOULD SEE THIS IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET OR OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP THAT WE HAD BEFORE THE PROPOSED BUDGET CAME OUT IN JULY.

SO IT'S JUST A RECAP.

SO WE DO HAVE A CONTINUED FOCUS ON FULLY FUNDING OUR HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS OF 2.1 MILLION.

HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS.

HOW I REALLY MUCH ALLOCATE THOSE IS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE PAID.

THEY ARE CONTRACTUAL REQUIREMENTS.

THEY ARE THINGS LIKE OUR RADIOS.

SO OUR P25 FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE, THEY HAVE TO BE SWAPPED OUT, WHETHER IT'S CONTRACTUAL, WHETHER IT'S A STATE MANDATORY TYPE OF ITEM.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE PAID, SO THEY ARE A HIGH PRIORITY.

AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE THE 2.75 MILLION FOR OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE AND WE HAVE THE ANTICIPATED CITY CRA UNEXPECTED FUND RETURNS, WHICH THOSE WILL GET ADJUSTED COME NEXT YEAR.

WE'VE HEAVILY FOCUSED IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY GROWTH AND NEEDS.

WE HAD, AS I MENTIONED, THE 2.7 MILLION FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN THAT IS BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE HEALTH INSURANCE REFUNDING THAT WE ARE DOING.

IN TOTAL, WE HAVE 18 PUBLIC SAFETY, NEW FTE POSITIONS WHICH AND SIX OTHERS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SO COLLECTIVELY WE HAVE 24 OF THAT 18 PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS.

THAT DOES INCLUDE THE NINE FIREFIGHTERS IN THE POLICE OFFICERS.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN POLICE AND FIRE, BUT PRIMARILY THAT 18 IS DOES IS MADE UP OF NINE FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS.

WE DO HAVE A 3% PAY INCREASE FOR ALL GENERAL EMPLOYEES AND WE ARE MEETING OUR UNION CONTRACTS.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT WE ARE ADEQUATELY FUNDING OUR PENSION CONTRIBUTION OBLIGATIONS, WHICH IS AT 87.7% FOR FIRE AND 82.1% FOR 87.7% FOR POLICE, I'M SORRY, AND 82.1% FOR FIRE.

THIS HAS BEEN A 38.2% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR.

AND OUR GOAL IS ALWAYS, AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, TO MAINTAIN OUR MAXIMUM IN THE STABILIZATION FUND OF THE $1.4 MILLION.

ALL RIGHT. ONE ITEM YOU WILL SEE THAT IN SOMETHING WE STARTED LAST YEAR IS DOING A COLLECTIVE MASTER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WHICH DOES INCLUDE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS 23.

WE'RE CONSIDERING FOR 24 PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR AND THEN YOUR FIVE YEAR GOING OUT.

SO IT'S 24 TO 28.

I DO DISCLOSE ALL INFORMATION.

SO THIS IS YOUR CITYWIDE REQUESTED MASTER CIP, WHICH CITYWIDE FOR 24 THROUGH 28.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT YEAR NEEDED EXPENDITURES.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO TALK ABOUT 24 AND GOING OUT IS $378.6 MILLION.

THAT IS CITYWIDE.

SO IT INCLUDES ALL ENTERPRISE FUNDS AND THE GENERAL FUND.

AND FOR 2024 ALONE, IT WAS $90.6 MILLION.

SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE HEADS, HEADS UP INTO THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, OUT OF THAT $90.6 MILLION OF REQUESTED CAPITAL NEEDS, 73.4, OR ABOUT 81% HAS BEEN FUNDED.

BUT PLEASE REMEMBER, THIS IS CITYWIDE.

SO THAT DOES INCLUDE ALL OF YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS, INCLUDING THE GENERAL FUND.

OUT OF THE 90.6 MILLION, YOUR ROAD BONDS IS THE LARGEST AT ABOUT $40.9 MILLION, WHICH IS ABOUT 45%.

SO THAT IS CASH ON HAND.

THOSE ARE YOUR TWO INITIAL BOND ISSUANCES, THE 2019 AND THE 2021.

SO THAT IS CASH ON HAND.

SO THERE ARE ALREADY PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN OPENED AND FUNDING HAS BEEN ALLOCATED FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO BEGIN WORK COME OCTOBER 1ST.

SO AGAIN, THAT IS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NEWEST ISSUANCE THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED AND CASH SHOULD BE COMING IN AND THINKING, I HEARD IT'S TOMORROW.

NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE MASTER CIP CITYWIDE ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL.

WE CAN LOOK AT IT BY DEPARTMENT.

SO AGAIN, FOR 2024, WE HAVE $90.6 MILLION OF REQUESTS.

PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE THE LARGEST, WHICH IS ABOUT 60% OF $54.1 MILLION, WHICH IS MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY HANDLE OUR GEO BOND PROGRAM.

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SO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE OPENED FOR THE GEO BOND PLUS THE MAINTENANCE, THERE'S PROJECTS SET UP FOR THAT AND THE STORMWATER IS ALL HOUSED UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, USUALLY BETWEEN THE GEO ROAD PROGRAM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE CASH ON HAND.

THE ROAD MAINTENANCE IS FUNDED THROUGH THE TRANSFER THAT WE'RE DOING ANNUALLY FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND STORMWATER BEING AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

USUALLY THE MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE FUNDED AND ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO SLIDE 13 SHOWS YOU WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED VERSUS WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN APPROVED.

SO THIS IS AGAIN, ON THE CITYWIDE LEVEL BUDGET.

SO THIS IS BY DEPARTMENT.

PLEASE KNOW THAT BUILDING PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES WILL BE YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

PUBLIC WORKS DOES OPERATE IN THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND, PUBLIC WORKS DID NOT HAVE ANY KIND OF CAPITAL THINGS APPROVED.

SO THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE HERE IS STRICTLY GOING TO BE YOUR ROAD PROGRAM AND YOUR STORMWATER AND YOUR ROAD MAINTENANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY I SORT OF SAY THAT PUBLIC WORKS, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES SAY GENERAL ENTERPRISE, WHAT HAS BEEN FUNDED IN THAT IS YOUR ACTUAL ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO OUT OF THE $90.6 MILLION, AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT 81% OR $73.4 MILLION WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED.

IT DOES GIVE YOU A PERCENTAGE AS A WHOLE OF WHAT WAS FUNDED.

AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL WHAT THAT IS.

SO AS YOU SEE, IF YOU EXCLUDE THE BUILDING AND PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES AND YOU HAVE YOUR SORT OF FIVE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH IS FIRE GROWTH MANAGEMENT, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, PARKS, FACILITIES AND POLICE, THOSE ARE YOUR GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE REQUESTED THAT WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED, IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE OTHERS.

AS YOU SEE 100% IN BUILDING.

WE HAVE 95.8% IN PUBLIC WORKS AND 100% OF THE UTILITY REQUESTS HAVE BEEN FUNDED.

SO THAT NUMBER OF 81% IS IS LARGELY INFLATED BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH ENTERPRISE FUNDING AND BOND FUNDED TYPE OF PROJECT WHERE YOU DO HAVE CASH ON HAND. THE NEXT SLIDE, REALLY, I JUST ADD THAT FOR DISCLOSURE PURPOSES, THIS IS JUST LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

AS I PUT THE CIP TOGETHER, I DO LIKE TO REPORT ON DIFFERENT THINGS AS FAR AS WHETHER IT'S A CAPITAL ASSET OR A PROJECT OR IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT REPLACEMENTS.

SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN REQUESTED VERSUS WHAT WAS FUNDED.

BUT AS FAR AS REQUESTS ARE CONCERNED, MAINLY FOR THE CITYWIDE, IT IS CAPITAL PROJECTS.

THAT IS YOUR LARGEST THING.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT CITYWIDE, IT'S ACTUALLY PROJECTS.

THAT IS THE LARGEST THING AND WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO REQUEST FUNDING FOR ASSET PRESERVATION AND REPLACEMENT.

SO IT'S JUST A GOOD NUMBER SOMETIMES TO KEEP IN YOUR HEAD THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT DEPARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY REQUESTING, A LOT OF IT IS REPLACING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS WILL LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS WE GO TO THE GENERAL FUND SLIDE.

SO SOMETIMES IT'S NICE TO COMPARE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS TRULY JUST FOR DISCLOSURE AND SOME REPORTING THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE AS FAR AS WHAT OUR ACTUAL CAPITAL NEEDS ARE. ALL RIGHT.

LET'S FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE, AGAIN, AS YOU REMEMBER, OUR TAX RATE GENERAL FUND, LARGEST OPERATING FUND, AND OUR TAX RATE REALLY DOES ACCOUNT FOR ALMOST HALF OF OUR REVENUE STREAM COMING IN.

SO THE FIVE YEAR GENERAL FUND MASTER CIP PLAN TOTALS 103.5 MILLION, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 27.3% OF ALL CITYWIDE REQUESTS.

PUBLIC SAFETY ACCOUNTS FOR 70.6% OR 73 MILLION.

AND OF THE 14.2 MILLION THAT IS REQUESTED FOR FISCAL YEAR 22, A TOTAL OF 3.7 MILLION OR ABOUT 25.9.

SO LET'S SAY 26% WAS ACTUALLY FUNDED.

SO WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING THAT TO WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT CITYWIDE, WHEN 81% IS FUNDED IN THE GENERAL FUND, IT'S REALLY JUST A QUARTER OF THE NEEDS THAT ARE FUNDED BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT INFLOW OF CASH ON HAND LIKE LIKE YOU DO IN THE CITY WIDE FUNDS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR GEO BONDS OR YOUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS.

SO AGAIN, IN A NUTSHELL, IS OUT OF THAT 14.2 MILLION, WE WERE ABLE TO FUND 3.7 MILLION.

AND REMEMBER, I TALKED ABOUT THE FIRE STATION SEVEN.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE IT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

BUT FIRE STATION SEVEN AT 2.7 MILLION IS REALLY YOUR LARGEST ITEM OUT OF THAT 3.7.

NEXT SLIDE AGAIN, SHOWS IT AS A BREAKDOWN ON THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL.

THIS IS WHERE WE LOOK AT WHAT WAS REQUESTED IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR NEXT YEAR VERSUS WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO BE FUNDED.

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SO OUT OF THAT 14.2 MILLION, AGAIN, I MENTIONED WE FUNDED ABOUT 3.7.

AND OF THAT 3.7 MILLION OF CAPITAL FUNDING THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, 3.4 MILLION IS PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND OUT OF THAT 3.4 MILLION, 2.7 MILLION IS FOR FIRE STATION SEVEN.

AND DO REMEMBER I MENTIONED THAT WE'RE FUNDING IT BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING THE RETURN FROM THE HEALTH INSURANCE FUND SO AS NOT INCREASING TAXES ARE SIMPLY COMING IN, SUPPORTING THAT, SUPPORTING THAT PAYMENT.

SO OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE HAVE SOME OTHER FUNDING FOR POLICE GROWTH.

MANAGEMENT DID HAVE A REQUEST, BUT IT WAS NOT FUNDED.

IT HAD SOME REQUESTS, BUT WE WERE ONLY ABLE TO FUND 45,000 FOR DOMAIN CONTROLLERS, PARKS AND FACILITIES HAD SOME ITEMS GOING IN.

THEY DO HAVE THREE FTE POSITIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THEIR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

AND THOSE THOSE POSITIONS DO NEED VEHICLES.

SO THAT IS PART OF A CAPITAL NEED THAT IS REALLY NEEDED, MAINLY BECAUSE WE ARE ONBOARDING THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN ALSO BEEN FUNDED FOR POLICE, WHICH IS 155,000 FOR THE POLICE RANGE SIMULATOR AND 273,000IN THE P 25 RADIO REPLACEMENTS.

THOSE ARE PART OF THOSE HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS.

THOSE HAVE TO BE SWAPPED OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER COMPLIANT AFTER A CERTAIN DATE.

SAME SLIDE AS BEFORE.

WE'LL LOOK AT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY OF WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

SO AS YOU SEE OUT OF THAT 4.2 MILLION DIFFERENT THAT CAPITAL ASSETS IS ACTUALLY YOUR LARGEST NEED IN THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH AS WE GO THROUGH EACH BUDGET WORKSHOP AND EACH PRESENTATION, IT'S USUALLY VEHICLE OR EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S FIRE OR IT'S OUR POLICE VEHICLES, AGING INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHERE THEY'RE SIMPLY THE VEHICLES DO NEED REPLACEMENT.

SO OUT OF THAT 14.2 MILLION, THE LARGEST PORTION IS REALLY JUST REPLACING AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT REALLY IS NO LONGER BEING ABLE TO BE SUPPORTED OR IT'S ACTUALLY HIGHER, MORE COSTLY TO MAINTAIN IT THAN IT IS TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE NEW VEHICLES.

AND THAT KIND OF MIRRORS AS FAR AS THE TYPE WHICH AGAIN, OUT OF THAT 14.2, 6.8 MILLION IS ASSET PRESERVATION.

SO WHILE WE DO HAVE THAT ASSET PRESERVATION IN THE CITYWIDE FUNDS AS WELL, IS, IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT CITYWIDE FUNDS, THERE'S A BIG FOCUS ON PROJECTS BECAUSE YOU HAVE UTILITIES, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH REALLY ACCOUNTS FOR A LOT OF THAT.

BUT IN THE GENERAL FUND IT'S REALLY JUST AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS A DIRE NEED IN THE IN THE PLAN.

AND IT'S NOT JUST IN 24 THAT DOES GO OUT INTO 28.

SO THAT IS A SIMILAR STORY EVERY YEAR.

OUR CONTINUED FOCUS GOING AFTER TODAY, GOING INTO NEXT YEAR, FINISHING OUT THE FISCAL YEAR IS WE DO HAVE A FOCUS ON STILL ON FUNDING THOSE UNFUNDED CAPITAL NEEDS.

SO WE DO HAVE ABOUT 74.1% OF REQUESTS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FUND.

SO THAT IS ABOUT $10.6 MILLION OF CAPITAL NEEDS FOR 2024.

PART OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, VARIOUS THINGS OF UPGRADES THAT THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

OUR FOCUS IS STILL FUNDING UNFUNDED PERSONNEL AND OPERATING NEEDS.

WE DO HAVE ABOUT $2.2 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL STAFF AND JUST IN OPERATIONAL NEEDS THAT THE DEPARTMENTS ARE REQUESTING.

SO WE DO HAVE A FOCUS ON THAT AS WELL.

AT TOMORROW NIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING, YOU WILL SEE AN AGENDA ITEM FROM OUR CITY MANAGER COMING TO YOU OF USAGE OF UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.

SO AS IS, SHE'S KIND OF REVIEWED THAT LIST OF THOSE UNFUNDED NEEDS.

WE'VE WORKED WITH HER IN DETERMINING WHAT COULD BE A GOOD NUMBER.

WE LOOK AT THE FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENTS.

WE HAVE THE NEXT YEAR'S FUND BALANCE REQUIREMENTS.

WE LOOK AT THE UNFUNDED BALANCE, WHAT IS STILL COMING FOR THE REST OF THE FISCAL YEAR, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT IS THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, THERE'S STILL SOME ITEMS SORT OF COMING THROUGH. SO ON TOMORROW NIGHT'S AGENDA, YOU WILL SEE A MEMO COME REQUESTING USAGE OF ABOUT 6.4, $8 MILLION OF UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO PUT TOWARDS VARIOUS ITEMS FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

THAT CHECKS OFF SOME OF THOSE UNFUNDED NEEDS THAT WE SIMPLY COULD NOT FUND IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

CAPITAL IS THE LARGEST.

SO OUT OF THAT 6.48, 8 MILLION, ROUGHLY ABOUT 6 MILLION.

SO SO ALMOST ALL OF IT ARE CAPITALIZED TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO FUND.

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13.1% OF THOSE ARE MANDATED.

I TALKED ABOUT HIGH PRIORITY NEEDS, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME DIFFERENT THINGS AS FAR AS WHEN IT COMES TO P 25 RADIOS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TRYING TO LOOK AT SOME DIFFERENT WAYS OF FUNDING THOSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE LARGE TICKET ITEMS AND 72.3% ARE REPLACEMENTS.

SO I TALKED ABOUT AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THERE'S A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT ARE ACTUALLY REPLACING JUST EXISTING THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE OR THAT REALLY NEED TO BE REPLACED.

AND THEN ABOUT 15% ARE NEW REQUESTS.

SO THESE ARE ADDITIONAL ITEMS. THIS ITEM, EVEN THOUGH IT IS COMING TO YOU TOMORROW IN FISCAL YEAR 23, I WILL NOT OUT THIS UNTIL 24.

SO PENDING ON BUDGET ADOPTION, PENDING ON WHAT THE YEAR CLOSES OUT, EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL SEE IT TOMORROW, WE ARE STILL A FLUID ITEM, SO YOU WILL NOT OFFICIALLY SEE THIS UNTIL BUDGET AMENDMENT ONE IN FISCAL YEAR 24.

SO IF YOU DO SEE THIS ITEM NOT FINISHING OUT THE FISCAL YEAR, IF YOU SEE IT IN JANUARY, JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE HOLDING IT.

I AM HOLDING IT FOR A CERTAIN PURPOSE.

THE TIMING OF IT IS JUST IT'S IT'S VERY LATE IN THE YEAR TO WHERE IT IS MORE BENEFICIAL TO SIMPLY SAY COME TEN ONE, THIS IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE.

AND OUR CITY MANAGER CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT AS WELL AND YOU'LL SEE IT ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA.

SO I KNOW THERE WILL PROBABLY BE SOME DISCUSSION AS WELL.

STATE SHARED REVENUES HAVE COME IN SINCE OUR I WILL SAY THERE HAS BEEN SOME REVISIONS.

SO I'M STILL KIND OF MONITORING THE WEBSITE.

THEY THE STATE DOES AT TIMES SEND THINGS OUT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

BUT STATE REVENUES, WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $1 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL STATE SHARED REVENUES OF WHAT HAS BEEN BUILT INTO THE BUDGET AS A PROJECTION FROM A COMFORT LEVEL. WE MAY NOT BUDGET FOR THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT, JUST MAINLY BECAUSE WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO THINGS AT A 95 OR 96% COLLECTION, MEANING THAT WE DON'T WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE ENTIRE AMOUNT JUST IN CASE.

YOU HAVE TO SOMETIMES AT LEAST BUFFER FOR A LITTLE BIT OF JUST IN CASE.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT AS PART OF THAT REQUEST THAT IS COMING THROUGH TOMORROW.

ON THAT AGENDA ITEM, YOU WILL SEE SOME TERMINOLOGY AS FAR AS FUTURE STATE SHARED REVENUES THAT WE ARE JUST ANTICIPATING ON INCREASING.

SO WE'LL BUILD THAT INTO THE BUDGET AND YOU'LL SEE THAT PART OF THE BUDGET AMENDMENT ONE AS WELL.

SO AS FAR AS THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE PRESENTING IS SIMPLY JUST BASED ON OUR ESTIMATES.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE.

SO THESE ARE JUST YOUR IMPORTANT UPCOMING DATES? WE DO HAVE A BUDGET ADVERTISEMENT SCHEDULED FOR NEXT FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 15TH.

THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT.

I DO HAVE TO PUBLISH TWO ADS WHICH WILL DISCLOSE OUR BUDGET SUMMARY, OUR TAX INCREASE, AND OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING.

THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH AT 6 P.M.

IN THIS ROOM.

THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT, AND THAT IS WHEN YOU WILL OFFICIALLY ADOPT THE RATE AND THE BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER ITEMS AS FAR AS UTILITY RATES AND SERVICE FEES THAT ARE COMING TO YOU.

BUT SO SEPTEMBER 20TH, ON WEDNESDAY AT 6 P.M., THAT WILL GO INTO THE ADVERTISEMENT.

SO THAT IS REALLY A SET DATE.

WE WE CAN'T WE CAN'T MOVE THAT AROUND.

SO THAT'S THE OFFICIAL END OF THE BUDGET PREPARATION.

AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADOPT THE BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, MA'AM, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS DETAILED PRESENTATION AND THE HARD WORK DURING THIS BUDGET SEASON BY NOT ONLY YOU, BUT THE ENTIRE STAFF.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER SINCE I CAN'T MAKE A VISUAL OF HIM.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OUR STAFF JUST WANT TO JUST SAY THANKS TO STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THE BUDGET AND APPRECIATE THEIR DEDICATION TO THE CITY.

THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE COMING IN NICE AND CLEAR.

SO I REALLY COMMEND THE NEW THE NEW SOUND SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE.

OUTSTANDING JOB. MISS TERESE.

COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. YOU GOOD, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR. THINK I'LL ECHO WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

IT'S THE SAME.

YEAH. THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO DAY IN, DAY OUT, TO.

TO REALLY PRESENT US WITH A GREAT, GREAT BUDGET.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YEAH, I LOVE THE DETAILS THAT ARE PUBLIC.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE THAT WISHES TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT THE TENTATIVE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

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SO I SEE A YOUNG MAN THAT RAISED HIS HAND REALLY QUICKLY.

ARE YOU DOING? COUNCIL. JOHN MALACHI, LOCAL 2446 VICE PRESIDENT 16 1465 GEORGE STREET.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US IN THE CITY AND, AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE'RE GETTING FOR THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND A LOT OF THE CITIZENS DON'T REALIZE THAT OUR COMMAND STAFF, ALONG WITH CITY MANAGEMENT, HAS WORKED REALLY HARD.

AND THEY A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE JUST A PRICE TAG AND LIKE ON ON THAT THERE'S EXTRICATION EQUIPMENT AND THEY SEE A HUGE NUMBER.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW THE TRUE BACKSTORY OF ALL OF THAT.

AND WHEN WHEN YOUR EQUIPMENT'S ALMOST 17 YEARS OLD AND WE SERVICE IT REGULARLY AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST KEEPS FAILING AND JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SEE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THE CITIZENS KNOW, WE'VE PUSHED OUR EQUIPMENT AS FAR AS WE CAN.

AND THEN THERE'S A TIME WHERE YOU HAVE TO REPLACE IT, JUST LIKE THE RADIOS WE WENT.

AS LONG AS WE COULD WITH THE RADIOS, AND NOW THEY'RE NOT SUPPORTED ANYMORE.

AND THE SAME THING WITH OUR AIR PACKS.

WE'VE PUSHED OUR AIR PACKS ALL THE WAY TO THE END TO WHERE THERE IS NO SERVICE LIFE LEFT IN THEM.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE COMMAND STAFF AND I SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PRICE INCREASE AND THEY'RE PULLING THEIR HAIR HAIR OUT AND SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, THE PRICES ARE GOING UP AND UP AND UP.

AND I JUST I WANT TO THANK YOU.

THE CITY COUNCIL AND OUR COMMAND STAFF AND CITY MANAGEMENT FOR THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID TO ACTUALLY GETTING US ON THE RIGHT PATH.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN, I THINK, CLOSE TO, I WANT TO SAY 12 OR 14 YEARS THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SEND PALM BAY FIRE UNIT OUT OF THE CITY TO HELP A NEIGHBORING AGENCY.

WE'VE RECEIVED AID BEFORE.

THIS TIME WE ACTUALLY GET TO GIVE AID AND THAT'S DUE TO THE HARD WORK OF OF YOU GUYS SEEING THE NEEDS OF OUR FIRE APPARATUS.

UNTIL THEN, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, IT WAS ONLY 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO.

WE'RE TAKING PARTS OFF OF ONE FIRE TRUCK, PUTTING THEM ON ANOTHER FIRE TRUCK JUST TO GET IT RUNNING UNTIL WE GET PARTS.

SO I REALLY HIT SOMETHING OVER THERE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.

AND I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE'RE THEY'RE DOING THEIR BEST TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK.

SO THANK YOU.

WELL, SIR, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THE FIRST THING IS THE SECOND THING IS YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

AND SENDING OTHERS AID WHEN WE'VE RECEIVED AID IS IMPORTANT.

YOU'LL SELL WHAT YOU READ, RIGHT? YOU'LL REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

SO SO PART OF THAT, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE AIR PACKS.

SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF IS THAT LUCAS DEVICE THAT SAVES LIVES.

AND AND THERE ARE PRICE TAGS FOR THAT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A LIFE OF ONE OF OUR CITIZENS, YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON THAT.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU. WELL, THE CITIZENS DON'T REALIZE IT UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM.

AND THEN WHAT'S GREAT IS ON THE LUCAS DEVICE, THEY HAD A GENTLEMAN WALK INTO THE STATION THREE DAYS LATER AFTER A CARDIAC ARREST.

I THINK IT WAS THREE DAYS LATER AFTER A CARDIAC ARREST EVENT.

AND JUST TO SEE THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY YOU'VE HEARD TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE SAYING THAT PALM BAY MILLAGE RATE IS HIGH.

AND I'M LIKE, DO THEY? YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU BREAK IT DOWN TO EVERYTHING YOU GET WITH THE PARKS, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EVERYTHING IN THE CITY, WE OFFER A LOT TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

THAT'S THAT'S MY BELIEF, JUST LOOKING AT I'M A CITIZEN OF PALM BAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GO OTHER PLACES, THEY HAVE FIRE FEES, OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY, THEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ACCOUNT THAT INTO IT, I KNOW WHAT I PAY FOR MY PROPERTY TAXES JUST TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I THINK IT'S RIGHT AROUND 400 BUCKS.

I GET A LOT FROM THE CITY FOR $400.

I JUST YOU KNOW, BUT AND I JUST WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING HARD TO TRY TO SAVE EVERY DIME.

I MEAN, IT'S I SEE A PRICE TAG OF $10,000 FOR FOAM.

AS A CITIZEN, I'M LIKE FIREFIGHTING FOAM THAT MUCH.

WE'VE USED EVERY BIT.

AND WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO A BRUSH FIRE OR ANYTHING LIKE IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

YOU KNOW, WE SAVE A LOT OF HOUSES AND IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND I JUST I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING A NUMBER ON, YOU KNOW, JUST A BIG NUMBER, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF I'M NOT AWARE, I'M LIKE, WELL, CAN'T THEY GO WITHOUT? WE HAVE. AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR, YOU KNOW, SEEING THAT AND MAKING THE CHANGE.

WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THE.

YES, SIR. STEP FORWARD.

MY NAME IS HUMBERTO MARTINEZ.

I'M NEW HERE TO FLORIDA AND PALM BAY.

I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT ALMOST THREE YEARS.

AND THE ISSUE I'M HAVING NOW, AS SOME MAY KNOW, IS THAT THE BETWEEN THE TAXES AND THE INSURANCE RATES

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LIKE FLYING OUT OF CONTROL.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M LITERALLY PRACTICALLY UNABLE TO, YOU KNOW, PAY MY MORTGAGE.

I HAVE A 12 YEAR OLD SON, A SIX YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.

I'M 59.

I'LL BE 60. I STARTED LATE IN LIFE WITH KIDS ON DISABILITY.

I'M ON A VERY FIXED INCOME.

AND IT'S JUST WEIRD BECAUSE IN 2021 I WAS TAXED AT 66.34% OF THE VALUE OF MY HOME.

THAT IN 2022 THEY TAXED ME 100% OF THE VALUE OF MY HOME.

NOW, IN 2023, HEADING INTO 2024, I WAS TAXED ANOTHER 93%.

ON TOP OF ALL THAT, BRINGING, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE VALUE UP TO 126.3%.

I'M PAYING MORE NOW IN TAXES.

IT'S A LITTLE IT'S JUST IT'S A BIT MUCH.

AND I DON'T KNOW.

AND LIKE I SPOKE WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.

I WENT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, AND BASICALLY I WAS GIVEN NO ANSWER AND TOLD ME, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE KIND OF DOOMED HERE.

SO I FIGURED SINCE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS AND TAXES AND STUFF, I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE AFFECTED BY THIS.

I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO SELL MY HOME, UPROOT MY FAMILY.

YOU KNOW, WE LEFT I LEFT NEW YORK BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE POLITICS THERE, THE CRIME RATE, AND MOST OF ALL, THE OUTRAGEOUS TAXES.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND NOW I COME HERE AND I FEEL LIKE I'M SUFFERING THE SAME PLIGHT.

I MEAN, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW I WENT.

66, 100 NOW, ANOTHER 93 ON TOP OF IT.

AND THESE AND IT GOES BY AN APPRAISAL GUY THAT PULLS A NUMBER OUT OF I'LL SAY THE AIR TO BE POLITE, PULLS A NUMBER OUT OF THE AIR, AND THEN THEY SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TAX YOU ON THAT NUMBER.

I MEAN, COULDN'T THE LEGISLATIVE COME UP WITH A MORE FAIR WAY TO TAX SOMEONE? HOW ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF SOMEONE'S HOME, PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT ON IT, SAY 50, $70 A SQUARE FOOT OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE WHEN THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME GOES DOWN, THE VALUE OF YOUR YOUR, YOU'RE GOING TO STILL PAY THAT SAME TAX.

RIGHT NOW, I'M PAYING IN TAX LIKE 4400 AND WHATEVER IT IS DOLLARS YOU KNOW, AND THAT THAT MADE MY MORTGAGE MY MORTGAGE WAS 1100 AND SOMETHING NOW IT'S CLOSE TO 2000 AND ON A FIXED INCOME YOU KNOW MY MY CHILDREN ARE AFRAID YOU KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO THEY'RE HAPPY IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT YEAR, ODYSSEY AND EVERYTHING.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT, GREAT SCHOOL COMPARED TO NEW YORK.

MY SON ACTUALLY MADE THE HONOR ROLL.

YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS SEEM TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, THE SMART KIDS WHERE WHERE I CAME FROM, THE DISRUPTIVE ONE IS THE ONE CATERED TO. SO WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? OH, IT'S UMBERTO H.

UMBERTO MARTINEZ.

MARTINEZ. I KNOW.

I LOOK IRISH AND SPANISH AND MY ADDRESS IS 2627.

DENNIS AVENUE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY 32909.

GOT TO GET USED TO YOUR ZIP CODES.

SO. SO, MR. MARTINEZ, AND I KNOW YOU AND I BRIEFLY SPOKE.

IT'S THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE WE'RE HAVING AT YOUR HOME IS THAT THEY KEEP APPRAISING IT AT A HIGHER VALUE EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

YEAH, BUT BUT EVEN WHEN THEY APPRAISED IT AT A HIGHER VALUE, THE WAY I WAS TAXED LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN 2021 I WAS TAXED 66.34% OF THE VALUE OF MY HOUSE.

ALL RIGHT, THEN 2022 ROLLS ALONG.

SO NOW THEY TAX ME 100% OF THE VALUE THAT THEY INCREASED MY HOUSE.

AND WHATEVER APPRAISAL THAT SOMEONE PULLED OUT OF THE AIR RIGHT NOW, THIS YEAR, ON TOP OF THAT 100%, I GOT TAXED ANOTHER 93% ON TOP OF THE 100% OF LAST YEAR.

LIKE I SAID, BRINGING THE TOTAL VALUE WHEN I ADDED EVERYTHING UP AND BROKE IT DOWN TO 126.3% SINCE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND I JUST READ WHAT'S GOING TO COME NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

MA'AM. I'M GOING TO ASK STAFF, IS THERE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS OR A PROCESS THAT HE CAN APPEAL THE THE VALUE OF THE HOME, THE APPRAISED VALUE OF THE HOME? YES, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A PROCESS.

BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, IF YOU DON'T MIND, IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR STAFF, OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT STAFF HAS YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION BECAUSE WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS A FIRST STEP WHEN ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR TAX RATE, IF YOU LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND GO OVER WHAT YOU HAVE, WHAT YOU JUST KIND OF VERBALIZE FOR US.

YEAH, I HAVE FROM WHAT MISS COLLINS SENT ME AND WHAT I GOT FROM THE GOING ON THE COMPUTER AND THEN ADDING EVERYTHING UP AND SAYING, I MEAN, HOW

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COULD YOU GO FROM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST THE WAY THE WHOEVER IT IS THAT RAISES THE TAXES HERE, THE LEGISLATIVE, THE COUNTY, I'M IT'S LIKE LITERALLY IT'S LIKE AT ONE YEAR I WAS ONLY TAXED LIKE I SAID, 66% OF THE VALUE.

ALL RIGHT. THEN THEY SAID OKAY.

SO FOLLOWING YEAR 100 SIR.

SIR, JUST SHE'S SHE'S GOING TO GIVE YOU.

OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

NO, SHE'S TRYING TO WEIGH IN ON.

I ABSOLUTELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.

YES, SIR. JUST NO, JUST SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN.

WELL, WE DO HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.

SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS WE WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM HERE TONIGHT, BUT I'D AT LEAST LIKE TO HAVE MY STAFF SIT WITH YOU AND GO OVER YOUR YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILLS.

IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN 21.

AND MAYBE THAT WAS WHY IT WAS A PARTIAL YEAR OF TAXES.

BUT WE WILL LET US SIT DOWN WITH YOU, GO THROUGH THAT, AND THEN IF THERE'S ANY CHANNELS THAT WE CAN RECOMMEND TO YOU TO WORK WITH BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER BECAUSE THEY DO REALLY REGULATE A LOT OF THAT, WE WILL HELP YOU AND DIRECT YOU TO THOSE PATHS.

BUT LET ME HAVE STAFF GET YOUR CONTACT NUMBER AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN WORK ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AT LEAST WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE IN THE RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. WHO DO I SPEAK WITH? YES, MA'AM. FORWARD.

THERE'S A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS THAT DOES THAT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS SUSAN CONNOLLY.

HOWEVER, TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING FOR MR. BILL BATTEN, WHO IS UNABLE TO BE HERE AND ASKED ME TO PRESENT TO YOU HIS PREPARED REMARKS.

I JUST GOT MY PROPOSED TAX BILL, 16 LINE ITEMS, 11 LOWERED, THREE STAYED THE SAME, AND TWO RAISED THE MILLAGE RATE. NOW YOU SIT UP THERE AND PAT YOURSELVES ON THE BACK BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN A MINUS LOAN RATING. YET THE CITY FAILED ON ITS INFRASTRUCTURE.

THANKS TO THE RESIDENTS VOTING TO BAIL YOU OUT WITH 150 MILLION GOLD ROAD BOND, PLUS A 9 MILLION BOND FOR THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY THAT HAS STILL NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

WITHOUT THESE ACTIONS, THE CITY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE RED.

THE CITY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE POLICE, FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

YET NEARLY 70% OF THE 1970S CITY LIMITS DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER. SO QUIT BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR LOAN RATING AND SHOW SOME APPRECIATION TOWARD YOUR TAX PAYERS BY LOWERING THE MILLAGE RATE AND CONCENTRATING ON YOUR CHARTER MANDATED RESPONSIBILITIES.

NOT THROWING PARTIES AT PARKS AND REC BECAUSE IT IS GOOD FOR YOUR FACADE IMAGE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. BILL. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. STEP FORWARD.

MAYOR. IT IS A POSITIVE, THOUGH.

I DO WANT TO CORRECT THAT PART.

THE RATING, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN PAT, DELAWARE FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE, NORTHEAST.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE INCREASING THE FUNDS FOR POLICE AND FIRE BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED IT.

AND INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE.

IT'S OLD. AND MY QUESTION IS WITH THE UTILITIES INCREASE, BECAUSE I HAVE MANY, MANY SENIOR FRIENDS WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME AND THEY SEE THEIR WATER GOING UP EVERY YEAR AND THEY'RE NOT USING ANY MORE THAN THEY WERE BEFORE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE MONEY GOING TO.

ARE WE REPLACING OLD PIPES? ARE WE GOING TO ADD MORE CITY WATER? UM. THOSE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED BECAUSE THEY'RE FRUSTRATED.

AND I WAS READING THAT.

THE AVERAGE SALARY IS 48,000 IN BREVARD COUNTY.

SO WHERE ARE ALL THOSE LOW INCOME PEOPLE LIVING? ARE THEY HERE IN PALM BAY OR.

DEFINITELY NOT IN VIERA.

SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHY WE'RE WE'RE INCREASING THE MILLAGE OR UTILITIES OR WHATEVER.

WE'RE INCREASING AND CONSIDERING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE LIVING OFF OF, JUST LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN HERE.

THE OTHER QUESTION IS PARKS AND REC, WHICH I USED TO WORK FOR FOR TEN YEARS.

WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY GOING TO PARK AND REC AND FACILITIES, BUT WE STILL HAVE PARKS THAT LOOK LIKE CRAP.

THEY DO. I. DRIVEN DOWN TO LIBERTY PARK.

I PLAY TENNIS OR PICKLEBALL AT RIVIERA PARK.

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FRED LEE I DID THE PICKLEBALL LINES THERE AND VETERANS PARK.

SO WE HAVE COURTS THAT NEED TO BE RESURFACED, PARKING LOTS THAT NEED TO BE REDONE, FENCES THAT ARE BEING THERE.

SOMEBODY ACTUALLY HAD CUT THE FENCE AT RIVIERA.

SO PARKS AND FACILITIES NEEDS TO GO AROUND TO THESE PARKS AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO REDO RENOVATE THESE PARKS BECAUSE THEY LOOK BAD.

AND SO I'M SEEING ALL THIS MONEY.

I'VE TALKED WITH FRED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND HE KEEPS SAYING, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.

SO DO WE OR DON'T WE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THOSE QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. I'M GOING TO START WITH THE PARKS FIRST.

I'D ACTUALLY, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LOVE TO PAT CONNECT YOU WITH GREG MINOR, WHO IS OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR.

FOR THE PAST REALLY TWO YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY INVESTING IN IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE PARKS, BUT IT'S ONLY BEEN TWO YEARS WORTH FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL FIND WHEN YOU MEET WITH HIM AND WE'LL CONNECT YOU WITH HIM HERE SHORTLY, I THINK IS WORKING ON IT.

WHAT YOU'LL FIND, I BELIEVE, IS THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE ON YOUR LIST ARE ALREADY ON OUR LIST.

ONE EXAMPLE IS AN ITEM THAT WE HAVE FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE LONG NEEDED, DESPERATELY NEEDED REPLACEMENT OF THE TENNIS COURTS AT FRED LEE PARK.

A HUGE, HUGE, SIGNIFICANT COST EXCUSE ME TO DO THAT, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION TO USE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL STATE SHARED REVENUE AND UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO ACTUALLY WORK ON THAT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T MEET THEM IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.

BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO INVEST IN THOSE.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE THAT'S ON THE LIST TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PLAYGROUND AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

IT'S LIKE A $500,000 ITEM.

BUT THAT'S ON THE HEELS OF REPLACING MULTIPLE PLAYGROUNDS IN MANY PARKS.

AND THAT WAS ALL JUST WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO WE HAVE MY SHORT ANSWER.

PROBABLY THE BETTER SHORT ANSWER IS THAT WE ARE WOEFULLY BEHIND, BUT WORKING TO CATCH UP.

AND THAT IS WHAT THESE SIGNIFICANT FUNDING REQUESTS HAVE BEEN THAT WE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL IN THE PAST FEW YEARS TO TRY TO TAKE MORE OF AN EFFORT TO WHETHER IT'S REPLACE EQUIPMENT, REPLACE PLAYGROUNDS, GET NEW VEHICLES, GET THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY ON THE WHOLE INTO A BETTER CONDITION BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS NOT SIGNIFICANTLY INVESTED IN FOR MANY YEARS.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN ABOUT IT.

IT'S CONCERNING TO US, TOO.

BUT I THINK WHEN YOU MEET WITH GREG, YOU'LL FIND THAT THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS WELL.

REGARDING UTILITIES, IF I CAN SAVE THAT ANSWER FOR WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, SIR.

OH, YES, PLEASE. YES, MA'AM.

CAN YOU JUST TOUCH A LITTLE BIT? SHE MENTIONED LIBERTY PARK IN PARTICULAR, AND I KNOW THAT TRUE.

SO WE RECENTLY ACTUALLY COMPLETED, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST TIME WAS YOU WERE AT THE PARK, BUT MAYBE IT WAS THREE OR SO WEEKENDS AGO THAT WE HAD AN EVENT AT THE PARK WHERE WE HAD FINISHED SOME SIGNIFICANT RENOVATIONS THERE, SO REPLACED A NUMBER OF THE SIDEWALK AREAS THAT HAD FAILED, COMPLETELY REDID THE BASKETBALL COURTS. THERE'S NEW PARK BENCHES.

I BELIEVE THEY ALSO MADE SOME UPDATES TO THE THE RINK THERE AS WELL OR REPAIRED SOME THINGS THERE.

SO THINGS ARE IMPROVING BUT NOT AT THE PACE OBVIOUSLY.

I WOULD LOVE I'D LOVE TO FIX IT ALL NOW, BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.

AND THEN AS I SAID, SIR, THE UTILITIES ITEM, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN SAVE THAT FOR WHEN CHRIS COMES UP FOR THAT.

YES, MA'AM. THAT'S FINE.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THE TENTATIVE MILEAGE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RANDALL OLSZEWSKI AND I LIVE AT 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

IT'S ONE OF TWO OPPORTUNITIES THAT I'LL GET TO SPEAK IN A PUBLIC FORUM ABOUT OUR CITY'S BUDGET.

I USED TO HAVE APPROXIMATELY 14 A YEAR THROUGH MY SERVICE AS THE CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

BUT THIS BODY HERE ONLY A FEW SHORT WEEKS AGO DECIDED THAT THAT BOARD WASN'T NECESSARY.

SOME OF THE WORK THAT THAT BOARD TOOK ON WAS SOLVING THE ALGEBRAIC EQUATION THAT THIS GENTLEMAN IS HAVING SOME TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW.

ONE ENTITY DETERMINES YOUR TAXABLE VALUE.

THAT'S AN X.

THE NEXT, ALL THESE ENTITIES DETERMINE HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO MULTIPLY IT BY.

THAT'S A Y. THE LAST IS A Z.

THAT'S THE TAX YOU OWE AND YOU SEND IT TO THE TAX COLLECTOR.

THIS GENTLEMAN DOESN'T KNOW WHO TO TALK TO.

HE'S COMING TO HIS COMMUNITY.

HE HAS TO USE THIS PUBLIC FORUM, ONE OF ONLY TWO THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS BUDGET FOR THIS ENTIRE FISCAL YEAR.

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WE USED TO HAVE 14 OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THAT BOARD WASN'T NECESSARY.

WHAT IS NECESSARY IS PERHAPS A BOARD TO OVERSEE A DEPARTMENT, A RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT NOW HAS A $2.5 MILLION BUDGET ANNUALLY.

LET'S HAVE A BOARD TO OVERSEE THAT.

WHAT MAYBE LET'S HAVE A BOARD TO OVERSEE IS A GO ROAD BOND PROJECT THAT'S $150 MILLION OVER A PROJECTED 5 TO 7 YEARS, WHICH IS REALISTICALLY GOING TO TAKE 8 TO 10 YEARS.

WE'LL HAVE AN OVERSIGHT BOARD OF THAT.

BUT WE SHOULD NOT BY ANY MEANS HAVE AN OVERSIGHT BOARD OR AN ADVISORY BOARD TO THIS COMPLEX ALGEBRAIC EQUATION BY ANY MEANS, BECAUSE WE ALL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM.

I HOPE YOU GUYS CAN READ SARCASM.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE MR. BILL BARTON'S WORDS. I WISH HIM THE MOST POSITIVE ENERGY.

AND MOREOVER, I APPRECIATE MISS CONNELLY FOR DELIVERING THEM BECAUSE THEY REALLY, REALLY HELPED SET UP MY SENTIMENT.

SO THIS COLORFUL PIECE OF PAPER, SOME OF YOU FOLKS HAVE IT.

IF YOU DON'T, YOU OUGHT TO WRITE ON THE BACK IS HOW YOU GOT HERE TONIGHT.

ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES ARE GOING TO MULTIPLY YOUR TAXABLE VALUE, WHICH THESE FOLKS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH.

YOUR TAXABLE VALUE IS OUR BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER, AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S INCREASE TO MY TAXES OF, LET'S SEE, 3.6% OVER LAST YEAR.

BUT LET'S READ ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES.

COUNTY COMMISSION. THE GENERAL FUND WANTS TO DECREASE MY TAX BILL YEAR OVER YEAR, 7% FOR THE LIBRARY DISTRICT.

THEY WANT TO DECREASE MY TAX BILL BY 7% FOR THE MOSQUITO CONTROL.

THEY WANT TO DECREASE IT BY 8%.

GUESS THAT MOSQUITO CHEMICALS IS GOING DOWN FOR THE RECREATION DISTRICT WHERE I GET TO GO TO BREVARD COUNTY PARKS AND ENJOY THINGS LIKE WICKHAM PARK AND THINGS OF THE SORT.

THEY WANT TO DECREASE MY TAX BILL 7%, BUT MY CITY WANTS TO INCREASE MY TAX BILL 3.6%.

MY CITY MAKES UP 43% OF MY TAX BILL.

THIS ISN'T PHONY NUMBERS.

THREE FOUR, EIGHT BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.

IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. WHAT MY TAX BILL IS.

OKAY. SO MY TAX BILL LAST YEAR WAS $4,890.46.

MY PROPOSED TAX BILL AFTER THE 66% INCREASE, $5,194.74.

RIGHT. 6%.

$2,004 IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY OUT OF 5000.

AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL AND THIS IS WHERE I REALLY APPRECIATE MR. BILL BATTEN'S WORDS GETTING IN THIS ROOM EVEN WITHOUT HIS PHYSICAL PRESENCE.

AN ADDITIONAL $239.

LET'S NOT BE SHY. LET'S CALL THAT AN ADDITIONAL 11% GOES TOWARDS SERVICING THE DEBT, WHICH I'M GOING SOMEWHERE HERE, I PROMISE.

SERVICING THE DEBT FOR THE PALM BAY ROAD IMPROVEMENT.

THAT WAS AN INVESTMENT THAT THE VOTERS VOTED IN AND FRANKLY WAS NECESSARY.

WHEN YOU GO TO THE SOUTH OF TOWN AND YOU SEE THE ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE, NOT MY ROAD.

I'M IN PHASE FIVE. I GOT SEASHELLS COMING UP OUT OF MY ROAD AND I WILL FOR MANY YEARS.

BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE SOUTH OF TOWN AND YOU DRIVE DOWN THOSE SOUTHWEST AND THOSE SOUTHEAST STREETS, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SEE? NEW HOMES, BEAUTIFUL NEW HOMES, HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE 2010, 2015.

HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE 2020 BEAUTIFY ALL BEAUTIFUL HOMES.

THAT INCREASED MY CITY'S TAXABLE VALUE BY $1.5 BILLION YEAR OVER YEAR, FISCAL YEAR.

I'M NOT MAKING THAT UP.

THAT'S IN THE PUBLIC FORUM THAT WAS IN YOUR WORKSHOP AND IN OUR BOARD MEETING.

BUT LET'S NOT HAVE BOARD MEETINGS ANYMORE.

SO IF YOU GLAZE OVER THAT, OUR TAXABLE VALUE FOR THE CITY INCREASED JUST THIS LAST FISCAL YEAR, 1.5 BILLION BECAUSE OF THE INVESTMENT THAT I AS A VOTER AND EVERYONE ELSE HAS MADE TO TAKE ON AN ADDITIONAL 11% ON OUR PROPERTY TAX BILL TO PAY FOR THESE DARNED ROADS WHEN AGAIN, I GOT SEASHELLS COMING OUT OF MY ROAD.

BUT I SEE MY INVESTMENT AT WORK WHEN I GO OUT TO THE SOUTH OF TOWN, I SEE THAT INCREASED TAX VALUE.

SO ALL THE TAXABLE ENTITIES WANT TO LOWER MY BILL BY 7 OR 8%, WHICH I QUITE APPRECIATE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, COSTS ARE GOING UP 9 TO 12%.

BUT THIS CITY NEEDS TO INCREASE MY TAX BILL BY 3.6%, AND I JUST CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHY.

AND IN THE EFFORT TO FIGURE OUT WHY I WOULD LIKE TO COME AND HAVE A DISCUSSION AND HAVE HEALTHY DIALOG AND HEAR POINTS THAT ARE COUNTER TO MINE AND UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S WHY I SIGNED UP TO BE A VOLUNTEER ON THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

THAT'S WHY AFTER A YEAR OF SERVICE, WHEN THE MAYOR RECOGNIZED ME AND SMACKED THE PIN ON MY CHEST, I BROUGHT MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER UP HERE AND HAD THEM GO TO THEIR LITTLE CUTE DRESSES AND TAKE A PICTURE WITH ALL YOU PEOPLE.

AND THEN YOU SAT UP THERE TWO CONSECUTIVE TIMES AND YOU LET ME KNOW AND YOU LET POOR MS..

IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT MR. WHITE AND ALL HIS AGENDAS AND WHATEVER.

POOR MS.. CONNELLY CAN'T CONTRIBUTE IN THE WAY THAT MS..

CONNELLY WANTS TO CONTRIBUTE.

MS.. CLINKSCALES CAN'T CONTRIBUTE IN THE WAY THAT SHE WANTS TO CONTRIBUTE BECAUSE YOU GUYS DON'T SEE FIT.

YOU DON'T SEE FIT FOR THE GROUP OF US TO COME IN HERE AND HAVE SOME EXTRA CONVERSATIONS OVER THIS VERY, VERY COMPLEX INFORMATION.

AND TO ME THAT TO ME THAT'S APPALLING.

NONE OF THE NONSENSE OF POLITICAL AGENDA THAT CAME UP TO MOTIVATE THE DISSOLUTION OF THAT BOARD WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS INFORMATION EVER CAME UP IN

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THAT BOARD, EVER.

I, AS A MEMBER OF THAT BOARD, NEVER SPOKE ON THAT INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN OUT IN THE ATMOSPHERE.

NEVER PARTICIPATED IT NEVER TOUCHED IT WITH A TEN FOOT POLE, BECAUSE I RESPECT THE SUNSHINE.

I RESPECT IT.

AND THE SUNSHINE SAYS THAT THESE MEETINGS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE CEREMONIES FOR THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN DECIDED.

AND THAT'S ALL THIS IS, IS A BIG OLD CEREMONY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE ALL ALREADY DECIDED YOU ARE GOING TO INCREASE THE TAXES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, 3.6%.

IF ANY OF YOU COME IN AND GET US THE ROLLBACK, GET US OR EXCUSE ME, GET US TO THE 3% CAP, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE A DECREASE OF 4%.

SO OUR TAXES ARE STILL GOING TO GO UP RELATIVE TO TAXABLE ENTITIES.

WHERE WE SHOULD BE IS ROLLBACK AND YOU SHOULD DECREASE THIS TO 7% LIKE EVERY OTHER ENTITY DID.

ALL OF THE TAXABLE ENTITIES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY HAVE SAID, LOOK, THE SITUATION IS IMPROVING, OUR TAXABLE VALUE IS GOING UP.

LET'S PASS THAT SAVINGS TO THE CITIZENS.

AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY SAYS WE HAVE TROUBLE FOR ALL OF THE DECISIONS AND THINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, AND NOW LET'S TAKE MORE MONEY.

AND AGAIN, THE CONVERSATION OF THAT IS SO THICK AND SO DEEP, WHY NOT DEDICATE ONE NIGHT A MONTH FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS TO HAVE A HEALTHY DIALOG, A HEALTHY POLITICAL CONVERSATION ABOUT IT? YOU DON'T WANT TO.

WE DID BEFORE THE LAST WORKSHOP AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE OUR INFORMATION.

AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS ABOUT ME.

WHAT I WANT TO MAKE IT ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT THE THE 3% CAP IS HONESTLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CURSES THAT'S HAPPENED TO THIS CITY.

IT REALLY IS, BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THIS FOCUS NOW WE HAVE TO MAX THAT BUDGET OUT TO 3% AND THEN JUSTIFY IT, JUSTIFY IT, JUSTIFY IT WHEN IF THE 3% DIDN'T EXIST, MAYBE YOU GUYS WOULD BE THINKING A LITTLE MORE LIBERALLY AND YOU WOULD JUST MAKE THE BUDGET FOR WHAT IT HAS TO BE MADE TO AND THEN FILL IN THE GAPS AND IT WOULD BE LESS THAN 3%. MAYBE IT WOULD BE MORE FOR 3%, BUT I WOULDN'T CARE BECAUSE YOU'D BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT TO ME.

BUT THE OPTICS OF THIS SITUATION ARE SO HORRENDOUS AND I HAVE PARTICIPATED WITH YOU ALL FOR THE ENTIRETY OF YOUR TENURE IN THIS PARTICULAR SESSION, IF YOU SHALL.

WE'VE ALL BEEN TOGETHER SINCE FALL OF 2020.

ALL THESE BUDGET CYCLES I'VE BEEN ON THAT BOARD AND THE OPTICS OF THIS SITUATION CONTINUE TO DISPROVE.

THEY GO DOWNWARD.

EVERYTHING LOOKS WORSE.

THE OPTICS AROUND THE CITY'S BUDGET ARE WORSE.

IN THE TWO AND A HALF YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I HAVE HAD A LOT OF TIME, I DIDN'T COME TO THOSE COUNCIL MEETINGS AND SPEAK ON THAT BOARD BECAUSE I DIDN'T NEED TO COME GROVEL FOR THE ENTITY I WAS ON.

YOU HEARD FROM YOUR CITIZENS AND YOU STILL MADE YOUR DECISION.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME TO REFLECT ON WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY, AND I FIGURED OUT WHAT I COULD AND COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY.

I COULD HAVE SPOKE UP MORE.

AND SO I WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK UP MORE.

THIS IS ABSURD AND I AM JUST NOT VERY PALM BAY PROUD RIGHT NOW.

SO I AM HOPING THAT SOMEBODY UP THERE WILL SPEAK SOME SENSE INTO EVERYONE ELSE AND GET THIS SITUATION IN ORDER SO THAT THESE FINE FOLKS BEHIND US CAN HANDLE THE WOES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

YOU ALL SUFFER FROM THE SAME FINANCIAL WOES THAT ALL OF ALL EVERYONE, ALL YOUR CITIZENS ARE DOING.

AND AS THIS GENTLEMAN EXPLAINED, HE COMES DOWN HERE FROM NEW YORK.

HE SPENDS A COUPLE OF YEARS, HIS MORTGAGE PAYMENT DOUBLES, DID HIS DISABILITY CHECK DOUBLE, DID IT EVEN GO UP 5%? PROBABLY NOT. IT DIDN'T DOUBLE.

AND DOES THIS GENTLEMAN LIVE IN AN HOA? HE DOESN'T. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU HAVE ALL THESE NEW COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'RE APPROVING, IMPROVING AND APPROVING TO INCREASE OUR TAXABLE VALUE AND HAVE MY TAX RATE STILL GO UP.

YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THOSE.

THEY TAKE OUT MUNICIPAL BONDS TO FUND TURNING SWAMP LAND INTO HOUSES.

AND THEN THEY PUT THE BILL ON THAT CITIZEN.

WE HAD SOMEONE COME TO PNC LAST NIGHT, LIVES OUT IN CHAPARRAL, IS VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY'RE ABOUT TO CREATE CHAPARRAL AMENITY CENTER AND HE LOOKED AT IT AND THEIR EXPECTED REVENUES TO THEIR DEBT SERVICE ARE BELOW ANTICIPATION.

SO HE ASKS AN EARNEST QUESTION HOW DO I FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT MY MONTHLY PAYMENT? THAT'S FAR. FAR BEYOND THE CITY'S PURVIEW.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD? THEY LAUGHED AT HIM.

EVERYONE ON THE DAIS LAUGHED.

THE ENGINEER FROM THE DEVELOPER LAUGHED.

THEY SNICKERED AND THEY MOVED ALONG.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

THAT GENTLEMAN WOULD HAVE BEEN WELCOME AT THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, I'M SURE, WOULD HAVE EXPLAINED TO HIM WHO HE NEEDS TO SPEAK TO AND HOW HE NEEDS TO FURTHER UNDERSTAND THAT THIS GENTLEMAN WOULD HAVE BEEN WELCOME.

ANY TWO OF THOSE GENTLEMEN ARE WELCOME AT MY DOORSTEP OR FOR A CUP OF COFFEE ANYTIME, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO, IS SERVE MY COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION GETS OUT THERE.

BUT THE THREE OF YOU AND THE FOURTH THAT'S ON THE PHONE THAT APPEARS JUST TO MAKE ENTITIES DISAPPEAR, YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY.

AND THAT STARTS TONIGHT.

HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. COME FORWARD.

HEY, EVERYBODY, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

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I NEED TO SPEAK TO YOU. MY NAME IS RENEE NALLEY AND I LIVE JUST DOWN THE STREET AT 542 AVIATION AVENUE, NORTHEAST, SO MILE AWAY.

I AM A MILITARY WIFE.

SO SPEAKING OF THAT FIXED BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO HANG OUT WITH THAT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME.

MY HUSBAND IS CIVIL SERVICE AND HE'S AIR RESERVE.

SO WE WORK WITH COMBAT RESCUE.

YOU SEE THE HELICOPTERS FLYING AROUND RESCUING PEOPLE.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO. SO I FOLLOW HIM ALL OVER THE WORLD.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS A FAMILY.

MY KIDS ARE 15 AND SEVEN.

MY SEVEN YEAR OLD WAS A NEWBORN WHEN WE MOVED HERE TO FLORIDA.

SO LUCKY FOR ME, SHE GETS TO HANG OUT WITH ME AND NOT GO TO CHURCH TONIGHT.

BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT, BECAUSE I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THIS INCREASE DOES FOR OUR FAMILY.

OUR FAMILY'S TAX BILL PROJECTED INCREASE IS $278.

NOW, THAT $278 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT MUCH MONEY, EXCEPT IF I LOOKED AT LAST YEAR'S TAX BILL.

IT ALSO WENT UP. AND BY THE WAY, MY INSURANCE HAS GONE UP EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE MOVING HERE IN 2016.

SO WHEN I SAY THAT WE'VE HAD A LARGE AMOUNT OF INCREASE, I AM NOT EXAGGERATING AS A FIXED INCOME.

WE DON'T GET THE 3% SALARY BUMP THAT SOME OF THE CIVIL SERVICES OF THE CITY ARE GOING TO GET.

AS A FAMILY, WE CAN'T AFFORD IT.

AND GUESS WHAT? AS A STAY AT HOME MOM, I'M DOING EVERY PART TIME JOB I CAN FIND TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS 270 SOME ODD DOLLARS GO AWAY.

SO FOR ME, I WANT TO KNOW WHY IS IT THAT AS A COMMUNITY WE CAN'T COME HERE AND TALK AND SAY, HEY, HOW DO WE REARRANGE THIS CAPITAL FUND A LITTLE BIT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE? I HAVE AN ELDERLY NEIGHBOR WHO HAS HAD A STORM DRAIN THAT IS LITERALLY SINKING HER PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY KNOWS ABOUT AND HAS FOR FOUR YEARS. SHE IS LOSING THE GROUND UNDER THE BIG GIANT DRAINAGE DITCH AND THEY KNOW IT'S WRONG.

AND THE ANSWER THAT THEY'VE GIVEN HER IS THERE ARE LARGER CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

SO YOU ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST.

SHE HAS ONE CITIZEN AND SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO STAND UP HERE AT EVERY COUNCIL MEETING UNTIL SHE'S HEARD BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T KNOW ANY OTHER WAY.

SHE'S GOING TO THE OFFICES.

SHE'S ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.

SO THIS BILL IS LIKE A DOUBLE HIT, RIGHT? BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT YOUR OWN HOME, AT YOUR OWN WATER, SEWER, STORMWATER, YOU KNOW THAT YOUR STREET IS NOW LITERALLY SINKING, BUT YET YOU'RE GOING TO PAY MORE FOR IT AND NOT EVEN BE HURT.

SO FOR ME, THE REASON I'M HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT FIRE, THAT POLICE, THAT THOSE EXPENDITURES ARE VERY VALUABLE.

AND I KNOW I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS AS AN ACCOUNTANT TO TRY TO REARRANGE ALL THE NUMBERS AND ALL THE DOLLARS.

BUT I ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT, AS THIS GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, WE HAVE A LOT MORE REVENUE COMING IN THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE.

THERE IS NO REASON THAT WE CAN'T REWORK THIS BUDGET.

THERE IS NO REASON WHY WE SHOULD BE SEEING AN INCREASE THIS YEAR.

WE'VE HAD FAR TOO MANY INCREASES WITH OUR FAMILIES AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THE 3% SALARY RAISE.

WE'RE OVER HERE SUFFERING TO PAY FOR GROCERIES.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.

MAYOR. YES.

IF STAFF COULDN'T GET WITH THE YOUNG LADY TO FIND OUT THE ELDERLY WOMAN'S ADDRESS.

YEAH, I'M SURE WE CAN GET JULIET TO GO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

PASS OUT HER PASS BEFORE I CLOSE THIS THIS PUBLIC HEARING, I'D LIKE TO GET COUNSEL.

ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY DISCUSSION.

NO, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

NONE. SO I'M CLOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVING ON TO BUSINESS, NUMBER ONE, MISS SHERMAN.

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THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM IS YOUR CONSIDERATION OF SETTING THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE FOR THE TAX YEAR 2023.

FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHERE WE ARE AT, AS YOU HEARD, YOU KNOW, WE HAD SET THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE AT 7.5995.

WHAT THE BUDGET IS BUILT ON, THOUGH, AS YOU HEARD FROM ANGELICA COLLINS, IS IT IS BUILT ON A RATE OF 7.0171, WHICH IS THE 3% CAP RATE. SO THE TAX BILLS THAT WERE ISSUED SHOW THE 7.595.

YES, SIR. THE THE PRELIMINARY THE TRIM NOTICE THAT EVERYONE RECEIVED THOSE PRELIMINARY RATES WERE 7.5995, WHICH I'M HOPING THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTOOD THAT, MA'AM.

CARRY ON. YES, SIR.

SO THE ACTUAL BUDGET IS DECREASING FROM THE 7.5995 RATE TO THE 7.0171 RATE, WHICH IS THE 3% CAP RATE. AND FOR PURPOSES OF DISCLOSURE, THAT IS 2.92% ABOVE OR DIFFERENT FROM THE ROLLBACK RATE.

AND ESSENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE THE ITEM FIRST ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION FOR YOU AS WELL.

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IN TERMS OF ADOPTING THE RATES AND ALSO THE AS WE'VE PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE TENTATIVE EXCUSE ME, THE DEBT MILLAGE RATE THAT IS PROPOSED AND BUILT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE GO ROAD BOND PROGRAM IS 0.9084.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RANDALL RANDALL.

OLSHEVSKY OLS Z E W SKY.

I RESIDE AT 348 BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.

I'M IN A STUDENT STUDY, SO I KEEP THIS AND THEN MY TAX BILL PAYS.

I PAY IT. I PUT IT IN A LITTLE ENVELOPE.

SO I GOT 21. I GOT 22, 23.

I'LL END UP IN THE ENVELOPE WHEN I PAY IT.

THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATES AND THE THING THAT I ACTUALLY GET BILLED NEVER CHANGE FOR ANY ENTITY EXCEPT FOR PALM BAY.

I AM SICK OF THIS BALONEY OF WE NEED TO START HIGH BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO ANY HIGHER.

WE NEED TO COME LOWER. I'M SICK OF THE BALONEY PROPOSED WHAT YOU PROPOSE.

DON'T GET PEOPLE IN HERE IN TEARS OVER A 4% INCREASE OR 3.6% INCREASE WHEN YOU INTEND TO LOWER IT BY 4.4. DON'T DO THAT.

DON'T DISRESPECT THE PROCESS.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

THERE'S A PROCESS.

I NEED TO MATHEMATICALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M GOING TO PAY.

I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE ENTITIES IS GOING TO CHARGE ME WHAT THEY TOLD ME THEY WERE GOING TO CHARGE ME BECAUSE THEY DID IT LAST YEAR AND THEY DID IT THE YEAR BEFORE.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT.

HOW? HOW DO I KNOW THAT UNTIL I COME HERE TO THIS MEETING AND UNDERSTAND IT OR UNTIL I JUST UNDERSTAND YOUR SENTIMENT AND YOUR FLOW AND HOW YOU DO THINGS, IT'S NOT RIGHT.

IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PROCESS.

PROPOSE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY PROPOSE.

THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.

WELL, I CAN JUST SAY THAT I KNOW THIS COUNCIL PROPOSED A 7.595 BECAUSE WE JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHETHER WE WOULD HAVE A HURRICANE COMING, WHICH THANK GOD WE HAVEN'T.

AND SO WE'RE ADOPTING THE 3% CAP.

I WILL SAY AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY I DO AGREE THAT THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD WAS A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I REALLY BELIEVE IN WHAT MR. OLSZEWSKI SAID, THAT IT WAS A VENUE FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAD SPEAK TODAY AND THE YOUNG WOMAN, WHICH, BY THE WAY, MA'AM, I KNOW ABOUT THE RESCUE WING NINE 20TH AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOUR HUSBAND DOES FOR A LIVING DEFENDING OUR FREEDOM.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DEPLOY ALL OVER THE WORLD IN SOME HOTSPOTS THAT PEOPLE JUST DON'T RECOGNIZE.

SO THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR SERVICE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD AS TO SAY THAT.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY. COUNCIL. I NEED A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE OF 7.0171 FOR TAX YEAR 2023.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE.

I'M CALLING THE MOTION.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SHERMAN.

MAYOR, CAN WE ALSO ADOPT THE ROAD MILLAGE RATE AS WELL? MOTION TO APPROVE THE 0.9084 VOTED MILLAGE RATE.

SECOND. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? COUNCILMAN FOSTER? NO, NOT THIS TIME. ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO ORDINANCE.

ORDINANCE 20 2386.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 200 UTILITIES CODE BY ADJUSTING THE RATE FEES AND CHARGES FOR THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEM AND SERVICES, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS RELATED TO CHAPTER 200, WHICH IS WATER AND SEWER USER RATES AND MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES.

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THE USER RATES THAT ARE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU IN THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT IN CHAPTER 200.17 ARE PROPOSED TO INCREASE FOR WATER BY 1.75% AND FOR SEWER BY 3.75%.

THE USER RATES ARE PROPOSED TO ESCALATE PER LAST YEAR'S FISCAL SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS AND HAVE BEEN VERIFIED BY STANTEC TO BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AS YOU'LL RECALL, WE PUT IN PLACE AN INCREASE PLAN THAT WOULD BE GRADUAL OVER A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.

THE TYPICAL IMPACT FOR WHAT WE JUST MENTIONED WOULD BE A HOME THAT USES 5000 GALLONS OF WATER PER MONTH, WOULD SEE THE WATER BILL INCREASE BY ABOUT $0.68, AND THE SEWER BILL INCREASED BY $2.86.

ALL OTHER MISCELLANEOUS FEES WITHIN CHAPTER 200 ARE PROPOSED TO INCREASE 7.07% IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION'S LATEST APPROVED PRICE INDEX. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH UTILITIES, DIRECTOR AND STANTEC REPRESENTATION ARE HERE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. ANY QUESTIONS THUS FAR? NOT YET. MAYOR COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. AND NOT AT THIS TIME.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM REGARDING UTILITIES? YES, SIR. STEPPED RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RANDALL OLSHEVSKY.

I RESIDE AT 348 BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.

A YOUNG LADY INQUIRED ABOUT UTILITIES EARLIER AND THE THOUGHT THAT CAME TO MY HEAD IS THAT THESE RATE INCREASES CONTINUE TO GO TOWARDS DEBT SERVICE AND I ANTICIPATE THAT THAT'S WHAT THE STANTEC CONSULTANT IS GOING TO TELL US.

WE NEED TO INCREASE THESE RATES BY THIS MUCH SO THAT WE CAN KEEP UP WITH THE DEBT THAT WE ALREADY ISSUED TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, TO MAKE IT ABLE TO SERVICE THE AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS THAT IT HAS ON IT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE STATED FOR ANY FORM OF PUBLIC RECORD, WHAT PLANS, IF ANY, EXIST TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF HOOKUP AVAILABILITY OF EITHER UTILITY.

AND IF THAT BLANKET IF THAT QUESTION COULD JUST BLINK IT FOR ALL OF THESE ITEMS, I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM.

MADAM CHAIR OR SHERMAN? YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BRING UP UTILITY STRUCTURE? SO, CHRIS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP OR WITH STANTEC, THAT'S FINE AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL.

GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN.

I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS YEAR, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING THE INCREASE.

YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR THE UTILITY EVALUATES ITS FINANCIAL POSITION, CONSIDERING ITS ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENDITURES, ITS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT IN ONE YEAR SILOS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A MULTI YEAR PLANNING PERIOD.

YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET ON A GIVEN YEAR IS GOING TO INCREASE OR DECREASE DEPENDING ON WHICH PROJECTS ARE IN THE QUEUE AND THE TIMING OF IT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WITHIN THE UTILITY INDUSTRY, WATER AND WASTEWATER RECLAIMED WATER SEEING DRASTIC INCREASES IN CHEMICAL COSTS, PARTICULARLY ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSES HAVE INCREASED ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THROUGHOUT, JUST NOT JUST AN OVERALL CPI OR, YOU KNOW, MACROECONOMIC STANDPOINT, BUT SPECIFIC TO UTILITIES. IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN HIGHER BECAUSE OF SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. AND SO THE INCREASE IS REALLY JUST A FACTOR OF CONTINUAL INFLATIONARY OPERATING EXPENSE INCREASES.

AND YES, THE UTILITY HAS DEBT THAT IT NEEDS TO SERVICE, BUT THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE AVAILABLE TO SERVICE THAT DEBT IS DECREASED AS OPERATING EXPENSES INCREASE.

AND SO YOU HAVE TO MAINTAIN REVENUE ADJUSTMENTS TO MAINTAIN THAT THAT RATIO TO SERVICE THE DEBT.

SO IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE ANNUAL INDEXING THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU, MR. LITTLE. HOLD ON.

OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU WANT TO COVER ABOUT ANY FUTURE EXPANSIONS? AND THEN, SIR.

DON'T GO TOO FAR AWAY.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. SO IN TERMS OF EXPANSION, WE DO HAVE PLANS AND OUR FIVE YEAR CIP TO EXPAND OUR PLANTS AND WE DO HAVE SOME, I'LL CALL IT, MINOR EXPANSIONS THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

THE ISSUE I HAVE IS THE RATES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING RIGHT HERE ARE OPERATING, NOT IMPACT FEES OR MAINLINE EXTENSION CHARGES.

SO WE HAVE A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE CAN USE TO EXPAND OUT IN THE SYSTEM.

PRIMARILY WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW ARE DEVELOPER DRIVEN EXPANSIONS.

THE DEVELOPERS ARE EXPANDING WATER MAINS, FORCE MAINS OUT INTO THE SYSTEM.

OUR FOCUS IS PRIMARILY AT THE PLANTS WHERE WE HAVE INVESTED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO ADVANCE TO BUILD THE NEW

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WASTEWATER PLANT AT MY SOUTH REGIONAL CAMPUS.

EXPANDING THE CAPACITY OF THE WATER PLANT AT THAT SAME CAMPUS.

WE'RE ABOUT TO FINISH ONE EXPANSION AND ALREADY HAVE A DESIGN UNDERWAY FOR THE NEXT EXPANSION AT THAT FACILITY.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR NORTH CAMPUS AS WELL TO EXPAND CAPACITY AT THE PLANTS.

BUT I DO NOT HAVE THE CAPITAL OR THE ABILITY TO KNOWING WHAT I HAVE TO DO AT THE PLANTS TO WHETHER IT'S BOND, TAKE LOANS, WHATEVER IT WOULD TAKE TO EXTEND EXTEND SERVICES OUT INTO THE SYSTEM TO GET THOSE SERVICES TO THE INFILL THAT DOESN'T HAVE THEM YET.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YES, SIR. SO I BELIEVE I ASKED THIS QUESTION PROBABLY TWO YEARS IN A ROW IN REGARDS TO THE REQUIREMENT OF EVERYBODY WHO HAS ACCESS BEING REQUIRED TO CONNECT AND THE DIFFERENCE IT WILL MAKE IN THESE NUMBERS.

SO I WANTED TO INQUIRE ON YOUR TAKE THIS YEAR.

YEAH, WE HAVEN'T DONE AN UPDATED LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS.

THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WE EVALUATED THIS YEAR.

BUT OBVIOUSLY IF YOU HAVE NEW CONNECTIONS THAT ARE GENERATING ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SHARE SOME ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT WAY. THE CHALLENGE YOU HAVE WITH THAT IS, AS CHRIS MENTIONED, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE TREATMENT, TREATMENT, CAPACITY TO SERVE THAT.

AND THAT COMES AT A COST UP FRONT.

EITHER YOU BORROW THE MONEY TO PAY IT OVER THE PERIOD ASSET LIFE OF A PLANT, WHICH IS A REASONABLE THING TO DO FOR A UTILITY SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE COST NOT JUST WITH TODAY'S CUSTOMERS, BUT THOSE THAT ARE GOING TO FUTURE.

BUT THE CHALLENGE IS YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE FUNDING FOR SOME OF THOSE PLANT EXPANSIONS NOW, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ALL THE GROWTH RIGHT AWAY.

IT COMES OVER TIME. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, JUST IN THE SITUATION OF HAVING LIKE ADDITIONAL CONNECTIONS THAT ARE ALREADY HAVE SERVICE AVAILABLE, THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE REVENUE FOR SURE. THE CHALLENGE IS THAT DOESN'T THAT MAY HELP IN A YEAR OR TWO, BUT IT DOESN'T MITIGATE THE INCREASES ON THE OPERATING EXPENSES THAT A UTILITY, A WATER WASTEWATER UTILITY HAS REGARDLESS.

SO IT HELPS DEFINITELY.

AND WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN THE PAST.

IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A SITUATION WHERE YOU COULD FOREGO A YEAR'S INCREASE AT THE LEVELS THAT WE WERE WE'VE HISTORICALLY DISCUSSED.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THESE NEW CONNECTIONS THAT THE CITY HAS AVAILABLE, IT'S GOING TO JUST MITIGATE ANY KIND OF FUTURE RATE INCREASES. IT'S JUST NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT OF A OF AN IMPACT HELPS.

BUT IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A BIG JUMP.

IT'S NOT A PERFECT SOLUTION OR, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM SOLVER ALTOGETHER.

OKAY. SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION GOES TO MR. LITTLE THEN. APPRECIATE IT, SIR.

THANK YOU. UM, AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOLVE IT FOR THE SHORT TERM, BUT I FEEL LIKE IT SETS IT UP FOR THE LONG TERM FOR FUTURE EXPANSION.

TO OUR POINT, NOT TO GET TOO AHEAD, BUT ON WITH IF EVERYBODY WERE TO BE CONNECTED, THEN THAT WILL OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR YOU TO EXPAND FURTHER. CORRECT.

AND THEN THAT CAN BROADEN THE BASE IN REGARDS TO THE AMOUNT PAID TO UTILITIES.

YES. NO.

SO WHAT I WOULD NEED IS I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A MECHANISM THAT IF I GO AND START EXTENDING SERVICES OUT INTO THE SYSTEM WHERE THEY DO NOT EXIST, I NEED TO RECOVER MY CALLS TO INSTALL THOSE SERVICES, GENERATE IMPACT FEES, MAINLINE EXTENSIONS, SO THAT THEN WHEN THEY PAY THOSE AND I HAVE A MECHANISM FOR THEM TO CONNECT TO THE SYSTEM, MANDATORY CONNECTION, FOR INSTANCE, I'LL BE ABLE TO RECOVER THAT MONEY.

I'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT MONEY TO CONTINUE EXPANDING THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

I'LL BE ABLE TO AS AS I'M COLLECTING THOSE FEES OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR OR TWO YEARS, I'LL CONTINUE TO DESIGN, EXPAND, DESIGN, EXPAND, GO OUT INTO THE SYSTEM, RECOVER THOSE MONIES SO I CAN CONTINUE TO EXPAND IN THE SYSTEM.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

ALL RIGHT. BUT I UNDERSTAND IT'S LONG TERM.

SO I SEE.

WHAT? WHAT? WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE, BUT I SEE YOUR POINT AS WELL.

SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY I'M ALWAYS IN SUPPORT OF OF ALL THE INCREASES BECAUSE I SEE I SEE THE DATA AND I SEE LIKE, ESPECIALLY IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS, IF WE DIDN'T DO IT, THE DRASTIC JUMP THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO.

AND THEN WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IN REGARDS TO FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE THIS PLACE WOULD BE FILLED.

SO I'VE SEEN I'VE SEEN THE THE NEED TO GRADUALLY INCREASE AS INFLATION OCCURS AS WELL.

BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN.

ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT? I GUESS SO. AND AS PART OF THE ASSIGNMENT I GAVE TO STANTEC WAS TO LOOK TO SEE COULD WE SUSTAIN NO INCREASE FOR THE YEAR FOR WATER AND SEWER.

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LOOKING AT THROUGH THE DATA IN THE SHORT TERM WE COULD, BUT AS THE YEARS WOULD GO ON, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR EVEN HIGHER INCREASES TO OFFSET WHAT WE DID NOT COLLECT EARLIER ON.

AND KEEP IN MIND ALSO THE RATES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, 1.75 FOR THE WATER, 3.75 FOR SEWER PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION WITHIN THE ABSENCE OF A STUDY 7.07% ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO WE'RE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN WHAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION FOR OTHER UTILITIES WOULD RECOMMEND.

THE INCREASE WOULD BE TO ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION, INCREASING COSTS, ETCETERA.

OKAY. GOOD MAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, SIR.

IT IS ALSO ON A LARGE SCALE, A WATER QUALITY ISSUE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I SEE YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

THANK YOU, MR. LIDDLE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN FOSTER? NO, NO, NO.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

SO ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? COME FORWARD, MAN. COME FORWARD.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, MAN.

WAIT TILL YOU GET ON THE MIC.

I KNOW THAT YOU'RE CURIOUS.

WELL, I USED TO COACH CHEERLEADING.

NO, I'M RENEE AGAIN AT 542 AVIATION.

BUT I HAVE A QUESTION.

IF WE JUST KEEP SAYING I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR A BUDGET INCREASE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST INCREMENTAL BECAUSE I KNOW IN THE FUTURE IT'LL BE BIGGER, WHAT IMPETUS DO WE HAVE FOR OUR AGENCIES TO GET CREATIVE WITH OUR FUNDING? AND LIKE I MENTIONED, MY HUSBAND'S 920, SO I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN USE AND REUSE EQUIPMENT, BUT EVENTUALLY IT JUST DIES, RIGHT? IT JUST GETS OUTDATED.

IT DOESN'T GET SUPPORTED ANYMORE AND I GET THAT.

BUT AT SOME POINT, WHAT DO WE OWE OUR CITIZENS, IF NOTHING ELSE, THAN THE DUE DILIGENCE OF SAYING, GO BACK AND DO BETTER, NOT JUST I'M GOING TO VOTE THIS INCREMENTAL INCREASE BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE THE LESSER OF MY WORRIES.

WHEN DO WE GET CREATIVE AND SAY, LET'S DO THIS BETTER? THAT'S I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE I'M CRAZY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

PAT DELPORT 14, GEORGE'S AVENUE.

OKAY. SOMETHING THAT STILL HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.

WE HAVE PIPES THAT ARE 40 TO 50 YEARS OLD IN NORTHEAST BAY.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF THOSE PIPES WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE PIPE BREAK AND IT TOOK, I DON'T KNOW, TWO DAYS BEFORE THEY COULD FIX IT.

THEY BLAMED TRUCKS COMING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

THAT WASN'T THE REASON.

SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SITUATION IN NORTHEAST PALM BAY? BECAUSE THOSE PIPES HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE THE 70S, 60S AND 70S.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. LITTLE OR MADAM SHERMAN? SO IN TERMS OF PIPES THAT FAIL, WHETHER IT'S WATER OR SEWER OR THE SEWER SIDE, WE HAVE A BETTER ABILITY TO INSPECT.

WE GO IN WITH CAMERAS TAKING A LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE STRUCTURAL STABILITY OF MANHOLES, SEWER, THE GRAVITY, SEWER, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. AND THEN WE PROGRAM A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR TO ADDRESS THE WATER MAIN.

IT'S A LITTLE MORE TRICKY. IT'S BURIED A LOT OF THE WATER MAIN IS FROM THE NORTH EAST, FROM THE 60S AND 70S.

WE ADDRESS IT AS WE CAN.

WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT NOW AGAIN, WHEN I TOOK OVER AS DIRECTOR IN 2018, WHEN I CAME TO THE CITY IN 2017, TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GRADUAL INCREASES THAT WE'RE MAKING AND BEING CREATIVE, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY UTILITIES WAS CREATIVE BECAUSE FOR 30 YEARS NOT MUCH WAS INVESTED INTO THE SYSTEM.

WHEN I TOOK OVER, A LOT OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE PLANTS WAS COMPLETELY RIGHT AWAY THAT WE STILL HAVE VALVES IN THE SYSTEM THAT SHOULD BE LOOKING AT REPLACING THEM EVERY 5 TO 10 YEARS. A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS BEEN NEGLECTED, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PIPES IN THE GROUND, TYPICALLY, UNLESS THEY'RE DISTURBED, AS LONG AS THEY'RE DEEP ENOUGH, THEY'RE GENERALLY OKAY, WE ADDRESS THEM AS AN ISSUE ARISES.

LONG TERM PLANNING WOULD BE ESPECIALLY FOR OLDER STYLE PIPE LIKE ASBESTOS CEMENT PIPE THAT IS NOT AS STABLE AS SOMETHING LIKE PVC.

WE DO LOOK AND TRY TO RIP OUT AND REPLACE THOSE AS WE CAN, BUT IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN THE CORRIDORS WHERE THESE PIPES ARE LOCATED ARE SMALL AND WE HAVE TO KEEP EVERYONE ONLINE WHEN WE WANT, YOU KNOW, KEEP THEIRS WATER SERVICE GOING WHILE WE TRY TO MAKE THOSE REPLACEMENTS.

BUT WE DO WHAT WE CAN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?

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SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

MOTION TO ADOPT.

LET ME SEE. BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND.

MOTION TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 86.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECOND. GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, THANK YOU. I THINK WE YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE HAVE AMPLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS TOPIC.

CERTAINLY, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S ONE OF THEM SITUATION.

DO WE ADDRESS IT NOW OR DO WE ADDRESS IT LATER AT A MUCH GREATER COST? WITH EVERYTHING RISING UP, INFLATION IN EVERY ASPECT, COSTS OF MATERIALS, COSTS OF CONSTRUCTIONS AND WHEN IT COMES TO.

YOU KNOW, WATER QUALITY AGAIN.

MAYOR, YOU ATTRIBUTE TO THAT QUITE A BIT OF TIME.

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE COST? YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT.

WE OWE THAT TO OUR CITIZENS.

WE AND EVERYTHING COST.

UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE APPEAR TO DO TO TO TRY TO RAISE, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR EXPENSES.

WE ARE WE LIVE WITHIN THE CITY AS WELL.

BUT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO ASSURE THAT YOU GET THE BEST OF THE BEST, THE BEST OF EVERYTHING.

IN A SENSE, WE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO DELIVER A GOOD PRODUCT.

SO IF IT IF IT MEANS TO ADDRESS IT NOW AT A SMALLER INCREMENT AND THAT'S WHY I MAKE THE SUPPORT THIS MOTION TO TO ADOPT THIS INCREASE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD? YES, MAYOR. CARRY ON.

IN THIS COUNCIL CAME ON BOARD, WE HAD A FAILING WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

NEEDED A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF INVESTMENT.

THE PAST COUNCILS DIDN'T DO WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE, AND NOW WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE EVERYBODY IN PALM BAY AT CITY SEWER THROUGH EVERYBODY IN PALM BAY GOT CITY WATER? NO. NOT EVERYBODY GETTING CITY WATER, CITY, SEWER BECAUSE THEY WANT A SEPTIC TANK AND THEY WANT A WELL SO THEY DON'T HAVE A RATE INCREASE.

BUT THEY HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEIR WATER AND SEPTIC TANK.

THE PEOPLE WHO'S PAYING FOR GETTING THEY'RE GETTING SERVICE.

THEY'RE GETTING SERVICE FOR WHAT THEY PAY FOR.

AND I PAY FOR WATER AND SEWER.

AND I'M HAPPY WITH MY WATER AND SEWER AND I WANT THE REST OF MY CITIZENS IN THIS GREAT CITY TO HAVE THE SAME SERVICE THAT I HAVE.

AND IF WE GOT TO INCREASE IT, TO MAINTAIN IT, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I MEAN, ANYBODY WATCH THE NEWS TWO WEEKS AGO IN HAWAII, ACTUALLY HOW THEY WATER QUALITY WAS IN MAUI.

DO WE WANT TO WE WANT TO BE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

WHERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FAILED THEM.

WHAT IF LEADERSHIP FAILED HIM? DO WE WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION LIKE MAUI, HAWAII? I DON'T THINK SO.

SO I THINK OUR UTILITY DIRECTOR KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

I HAVE 100% CONFIDENCE IN HIS ABILITY.

I MET WITH HIM BEFORE I CAME ON COUNCIL AND AFTER I CAME ON COUNCIL.

UM, AND YEAH, WE GET NEW CONSTRUCTION.

WE'RE MAKING NEW CONSTRUCTION COME ONLINE.

THE PROBLEM IS, I BELIEVE EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE HOOKED UP WITH WATER AND CITY AND WE WON'T HAVE THESE RATE INCREASES.

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO PASS THIS AND THINK OF OUR WATER QUALITY, OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, IS RIGHT.

WE DON'T PAY FOR IT NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING FOR IT MUCH, MUCH GREATER LATER.

IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY BETTER IF WE DON'T DO NOTHING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAN. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

ANY. COMMENT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YES, MAYOR. I'M CONFLICTED.

BECAUSE AND I'LL ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS IN THE IN FUTURE COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT I REALLY FEEL EVERYBODY WHO HAS ACCESS SHOULD BE CONNECTED.

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AND AND I KNOW THAT'S ALSO GOING TO SET IT UP FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR EVERYONE, FOR THE CURRENT PAYERS AND THE FUTURE PAYERS.

UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, TRYING TO SEE CAN WE HOLD OFF FOR A YEAR UNTIL WE GET MORE PEOPLE CONNECTED OR.

YOU KNOW, GO FOR THIS YEAR, GET MORE PEOPLE CONNECTED AND LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, HOLD OFF IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M AT.

YEAH, I AGREE.

YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY UP WITH EVERYTHING.

FORGET MAUI. LET'S TALK ABOUT FLINT, MICHIGAN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVEL, BUT THAT WAS A LOCAL ISSUE.

THAT WAS A LOCAL ISSUE.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHERE COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS COMING FROM.

AND I AGREE. UM.

I'M JUST TO THE TO THE MRS POINT, TRYING TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT OR INNOVATIVE WAY SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S IN A GOOD PLACE.

AND BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS US TOO, ON THE DICE, WE ALL LIVE HERE.

SO ON THE DAIS.

SO BUT THAT'S ALL.

MAYOR THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, YEAH.

SO COUNCIL OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'M, YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WATER QUALITY, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IMPROVING IT, RIGHT? YOU BRING UP A REALLY INTERESTING DYNAMIC WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.

THAT IS OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO TO SEE THAT.

BUT YOU'RE SPOT ON WITH WHEN YOU THROW IN FLINT, MICHIGAN.

THAT IS CRITICAL.

AND WHAT IS THE COST TO THAT? YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING THOSE INCREASES WITH CHEMICALS.

EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.

I'M ALSO HEARING MAYBE WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE CONFLICTED IS HOLDING IT ON WHEN THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RISE AND AND THE CONFLICT IS OKAY.

WE GO IT'S 1.7 NOW BUT IT'LL BE FOR FOR TOMORROW.

RIGHT. SO I'M I'M WITH YOU ON THAT.

I'M LOOKING ON A GRANDER SCALE, LIKE DOWN RANGE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

YOU'RE YOU'RE THE YOUNGEST ONE ON THIS DAIS AND IT'S GOING TO AFFECT YOU MORE THAN THAN MOST OF US WILL PROBABLY BE IN HEAVEN BY THE TIME.

BUT I SAY THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S FOR OUR GRANDCHILDREN AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN.

THE WATER QUALITY IS IMPORTANT.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I DON'T WANT THIS TO EVER TURN INTO A A FLINT, MICHIGAN.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU.

THAT'S A RESOUNDING STATEMENT THAT YOU SAID.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALIZE THE IMPACT OF WHAT YOU SAID, SIR, BUT THAT THAT IS THAT IS HUGE ON THE MILLIONS OF LIVES THAT THAT AFFECTED.

SO AND I AND I KNOW FOLKS THAT WERE FROM FLINT AND THAT'S A DEVASTATING THAT'S A DEVASTATING COMMENT.

SO ANYWAY, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED PASSES.

FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ORDINANCE 20 2387 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 201 SEWER USE SUBCHAPTER MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS BY ADJUSTING THE PERMIT FEES AND OTHER CHARGES RELATED TO THE CITY'S UTILITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS CHAPTER 201 MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES THAT ARE FEES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO INCREASE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION'S PRICE INDEX OF 7.07%.

AND STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. SEEING NONE I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SIR, YOU RAISED YOUR HAND UP FIRST, SO COME ON UP.

COME ON. HE'LL. HE'LL GO NEXT.

OKAY. GET CLOSER.

ROBERTO MARTINEZ AGAIN FROM 2627.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THE THE TOPIC.

WHEN YOU GUYS WERE GOING ON ABOUT THE SEWER AND THE WATER THING.

I MEAN, I'M ON A SEPTIC TANK AND.

WELL, AND I HAVE A FILTRATION SYSTEM OSMOSIS.

I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.

I DON'T THINK I WOULD ENJOY CONNECTING TO THIS CITY SEWER SYSTEM AND STUFF.

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I MEAN, WHEN I MOVED ON MY BLOCK, THERE WERE FOUR HOUSES AND THEY RIPPED UP ALL THE THINGS, CHASED AWAY THE WILDLIFE.

AND NOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S STILL ON SEPTIC AND AND THE WELL WATER I WAS JUST WORRIED ABOUT DO PEOPLE GET TO VOTE IF THEY WANT THAT OR IT JUST GETS RAMMED DOWN YOUR THROAT? SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

BUT WE'RE ON A SEPARATE ITEM.

BUT I'LL DO I'LL DO MISTER MARTINEZ.

I'LL DO THE BEST WHEN WE SPEAK OF WATER QUALITY RIGHT DOWN RANGE.

RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY WATER LINES GOING THROUGH POSSIBLY IF YOU'VE ONLY BEEN THERE THREE YEARS.

BUT ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PROTECT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY AND PROTECT THE FUTURE OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND THESE SEPTIC TANKS, THEY THEY TEND TO FAIL.

AND THAT THAT COULD GO INTO OUR OUR WATER SYSTEM.

SO ULTIMATELY, WE WOULD WANT TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICES.

WE CAN'T TODAY.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WHEN WE SPEAK OF WATER QUALITY NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TIME BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING SOME GRANT OPPORTUNITIES TODAY FOR THOSE THAT QUALIFY THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET INTO THOSE GET HOOKED UP TO SEPTIC AND SEWER. AND WE EVEN GOT SOME STATE FUNDS FOR THAT PROGRAM.

BUT WE TYPICALLY DON'T TELL YOU TO HOOK UP RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T HAVE IT MANDATED YET, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD IS LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE.

WELL, COULDN'T THEY LIKE APPOINT LIKE, SAY, INSPECTORS TO LOOK AT PEOPLE'S SEPTIC TANKS? AND IF THEY'RE IN BAD SHAPE, SAY, HEY, YOU GOT TO UPGRADE THIS? THAT'S USUALLY THAT'S HOW IT WORKS, SIR.

BUT CARRY ON. KEEP TALKING.

I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

YOU GOT TWO MORE MINUTES.

OH, I GOT TWO MORE MINUTES.

SO THAT WAS MY LIKE, MY MY CONCERN ABOUT IT BECAUSE COMING FROM NEW YORK CITY, I PAID MORE FOR MY SEWER TAX THAN MY WATER BILL.

AND I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND BUT AT LEAST YOU GUYS ARE MORE FORTHCOMING.

YOU'LL ANSWER QUESTIONS WHERE I HAVE TO SAY NEW YORK CITY, DEALING WITH THE POLITICIANS OVER THERE.

THEY'RE LIKE, SHOO, FLY, SHOO.

THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

SO I WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAYING IF I, YOU KNOW, JUST I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.

BUT I WENT THROUGH NEW YORK.

I SAID, JEEZ, I WOULDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT NOW.

ALTHOUGH WITH THE TAX PROBLEM AND EVERYTHING, I SORT OF FEEL LIKE I'M DOING THAT NOW.

BUT THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'D HAVE TO SAY ON THE ON THE MATTER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M KIND OF HAPPY WITH THE TANK AND THE WELL WATER.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.

STEP RIGHT UP, RANDALL.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RANDALL CHAYEFSKY.

I RESIDE AT 348 BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT NAME THE STREETS, BUT I'D VENTURE TO SAY THEY NAMED BROOK EDGE SUCH BECAUSE WE'RE ON A CANAL.

SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORS THAT I'M ON CITY WATER AND SEWER.

WHEN I WAS BUILDING MY HOME, I ONLY WANTED TO SHOP LOTS THAT HAD THAT AVAILABLE TO ME.

I SPENT SOME SOME TIME LIVING TINY.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE BLACKWATER ON PROPERTY I WANT TO FLUSH AND NEVER THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

SO THANK YOU TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR GIVING ME THAT ABILITY.

I PAY THAT BILL WITH PLEASURE.

I'LL MENTION I ACTUALLY PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE TO GET RID OF RAIN THAN I DO TO GET RID OF BLACKWATER ON A PER GALLON BASIS.

SO I CAN PRETTY MUCH BRING FRESHWATER IN, TURN IT INTO BAD WATER AND GET RID OF IT FOR ABOUT THE RATE THAT I PAY TO GET RID OF RAIN VIA A DITCH IN MY FRONT YARD. NOW, THE DITCH IN MY FRONT YARD IS A SUBJECT OF THIS CONVERSATION.

I HAVE TWO NEIGHBORS DOWN THE ROAD THAT BOTH OF THEIR DITCHES ARE JUST MESSED UP.

IT'S NOT RIGHT BECAUSE THEIR DRIVEWAYS ARE FAILED BECAUSE THEIR HOUSES WERE BUILT IN THE 80S WHEN THERE WASN'T WATER OR SEWER OUT THERE.

THEY DIDN'T HOOK UP TO IT, SO THEY HAVEN'T FIXED THE DRIVEWAY CULVERTS, THEY HAVEN'T REPLACED THEIR WELLS AND THEY HAVEN'T GOT RID OF THEIR SEPTIC SYSTEMS. BUT DRAIN MECHANICS, A PALM BAY COMPANY, PALM BAY PROUD, IS ALL OVER MY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THEIR SIGNS.

CALL, CALL US UP, WE'LL CONVERT YOU.

I GOT NEIGHBORS ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE CONVERTING, THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE GRANT MONEY.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I LOVE THE IDEA THAT WE CAN GET THIS MONEY DOWN FROM THE STATE, BRING IT INTO THE COMMUNITY, GIVE IT TO A PALM BAY BUSINESS, PUT FOOD ON THOSE THOSE GENTLEMAN'S TABLE AND LADIES THAT ARE THAT ARE GIVEN THAT SERVICE.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE GET THIS THIS MANDATORY HOOKUP WHERE EXCUSE ME, WE GET THIS MONETARY FROM THE HOOKUP.

WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE IS WE'RE NOT IN CONVERSATION OF MAKING IT MANDATORY, BUT WHAT OPPORTUNITIES DO WE HAVE WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE MINE THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY ELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT FOR SOMEONE TO KNOCK ON MY NEIGHBOR'S DOOR? I TALK TO MY NEIGHBOR TWO DOORS DOWN ALL THE TIME AND I'VE BEEN HOUNDING HIM ABOUT IT.

I TEACH HIM ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

HE SAYS, I GOT A CALL, I GOT A CALL.

WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO CALL? BECAUSE IT'S BEHOOVES US.

WHEN DOES THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT GOING TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO MAKE A CUSTOMER OUT OF YOU LIMITED TIME, ONLY GET A LITTLE SALES MONEY WITH IT.

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YOU CAN GET IT DONE FOR FREE.

YOU JUST NEED TO PAY US SO THAT WHEN YOU FLUSH THE TOILET, YOU NEVER THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

BROOK STREET IS ON ONE OF THE MOST UNIQUE CANALS IN THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.

THEY CALL IT THE S CURVE CANAL BECAUSE OF OUR PROXIMITY TO NOT ONLY THE MAIN TILLMAN BUT THE OTHER OPPOSITE DIRECTION, ONE THAT GOES OUT PARALLEL TO MINTON THAT COMES CLEAR FROM THE COMPOUND.

SO MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS RIGHT NEXT TO ALL OF THAT.

THESE TWO GOT DITCHES IN THEIR FRONT YARD THAT ARE FULL FROM AN AFTERNOON RAIN.

THEY GOT SEPTIC TANKS IN THEIR BACKYARD THAT ARE NO DOUBT IN A FAILED STATE.

THEY GOT NEIGHBORS FOUR, FOUR DOORS DOWN THAT ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FREE HOOKUP AND THEY'RE JUST NOT DOING IT.

AND I JUST AGAIN, WHEN WILL IT WHEN WHAT RIGHT ARE WE IN TO MAYBE HAVE OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT PUSH WITH THIS GRANT MONEY SO THAT WE GET EVERY ONE OF THOSE DOLLARS INTO.

I PREFER DRAIN MECHANIC'S POCKET SO THAT THAT MONEY STAYS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. IS THERE DOES UTILITIES HAVE THAT CAPACITY OF REACHING OUT TO THE RESIDENTS? WELL, I THINK WHAT'S THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE PROGRAM THAT'S THROUGH SAUL.

SO SAUL HAS A LIST OF CONTRACTORS AND THEY'RE USING THAT OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FUNDING TO TO DO EXACTLY WHAT WAS DESCRIBED TO HOOK PEOPLE UP TO SEWER WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE.

ON THE HEELS OF THAT, WE ARE WORKING ON OUR OWN PROGRAMS HERE.

AS COUNCIL KNOWS, SOME OF THAT PROGRAMING IS FROM ARPA FUNDING AND THAT IS TO DO BASICALLY THE SAME KIND OF THING WHERE WE HAVE A LIST OF CONTRACTORS AND STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT PROCESS AND THERE WE ACTUALLY ARE ALREADY ACCEPTING APPLICANTS FOR THAT PROGRAM AND THAT'S BEEN IN WORK FOR SOME MONTHS.

SO WE HAVE THAT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN THIS MEETING, WHICH IS STATE APPROPRIATIONS FUNDING, WHICH WILL BE USED FOR THE EXACT SAME CONCEPT.

SO AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE REQUESTING ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM THE STATE IN THE NEXT APPROPRIATIONS CYCLE, HOPEFULLY TO TO TALK THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

BUT THE POINT IS WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ALL AVAILABLE RESOURCES INTO A STRATEGY TO HELP THOSE WHO DO HAVE THE AVAILABILITY OF SEWER LINES TODAY CONNECT INTO AND AND PROPERLY ABANDON THEIR SEPTIC TANKS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION THERE.

SO THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I GOT A SECOND BITE.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

ANY. DISCUSSION COUNCIL.

I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

MAYOR YES, WE'RE SHORT A COUNCIL PERSON AT THE DAIS.

OKAY, JUST WAIT. SO WE NEED TO JUST HOLD OFF FOR A MOMENT.

AS YOU WRITE, I VISUALIZE THE COUNCILMAN FOSTER HERE.

AS YOU WERE. YEAH.

I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A RESTROOM BREAK.

THEN I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2020, 20, 23, 88.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 202.

RECLAIMED WATER BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR RECLAIMED WATER, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MADAM SHERMAN? YES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM IS FOR CHAPTER 202, WHICH IS OUR RECLAIMED WATER USER RATES.

RECLAIMED WATER, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS A COMPONENT OF SEWER.

AND SO THE SAME SEWER INCREASE RATES WILL APPLY TO RECLAIMED.

THOSE RATE INCREASES ARE PROPOSED AT 3.75%.

AND STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE. IS THERE ANYONE IN THIS AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS? STEP FORWARD.

RANDOM. ANYONE ELSE? PLEASE RAISE THEIR HAND AND STEP FORWARD.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MY NAME IS RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.

I LIVE AT 348 BROOK STREET NORTHEAST.

MY INQUIRY THIS EVENING RELATED TO THIS RECLAIMED WATER IS WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST TO EXPAND OUR USE OF RECLAIMED WATER WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING OF OUR SYSTEM IS IT'S IN THE SURROUNDING AREA OF OUR ORIGINAL PLANT.

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IT'S NEAR. HARRIS MAYBE BECAUSE OF GOVERNMENT BUSINESS.

ONE DAY HARRIS ASKED US TO TO MAKE IT.

BUT I KNOW HARRIS USES IT TO COOL THINGS.

AND I KNEW THAT IT USED TO BE A GOLF COURSE, NOT A RED SHIRT IN HERE THAT THAT USE IT FOR IRRIGATION, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE HALF THE PROBLEM WITH THAT GOLF COURSE IS DIRT.

BUT WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS HOW CAN WE HOW MIGHT WE PROMOTE THE USE OF RECLAIMED WATER FOR IRRIGATION MUCH MORE IN OUR COMMUNITY? AN EXAMPLE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, BREVARD COUNTY IS NOT THE ONLY COUNTY IN FLORIDA WITH A BUILDING BOOM GOING ON.

RIGHT? I HAVE A PRETTY BIG FAMILY.

MY SISTER IS A JACKSONVILLE PERSON HERSELF AND HER FAMILY AND THEY JUST BUILT IN A LITTLE PLACE CALLED CLAY COUNTY, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTHWEST OF JACKSONVILLE OF DUVAL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JACKSONVILLE JUST KEEPS EXPANDING, KIND OF LIKE ATLANTA.

IT'S GOING TO BE THREE HOURS WIDE HERE PRETTY SOON.

SO THEY'RE IN CLAY COUNTY, THEY'RE IN MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.

THEY'RE ON A FARM. SO WHEN THEY WENT THERE, THE DEVELOPERS CAME.

THEY EXTENDED THE COUNTY'S WATER LINE AND SEWER LINE, GOT THEM HOOKED UP TO UTILITY.

BUT EVERYBODY HAS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM THAT SUCKS FROM THE COMMUNITY'S RETENTION POND.

SO MY SISTER LIVES ON THE RETENTION POND.

SHE SEES THE LITTLE GATOR THAT LIVES IN THERE BECAUSE, OF COURSE, A GATOR LIVES IN THERE BEFORE THE COMMUNITY IS EVEN FINISHED.

THERE'S A BIG FAT STRAW THAT SUCKS THE WATER FROM THERE AND SPRAYS IT ON HER GRASS.

AND AND THERE'S THE PROPER WARNINGS.

WE USE RECLAIMED WATER, WHATEVER.

THAT'S THAT'S VERY WATER EFFICIENT THAT ACTUAL COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS THEY DO WITH THE DOWNSPOUTS, THESE RAIN CHAINS INSTEAD OF DOWNSPOUTS AND THINGS OF THE SORT TOO.

AS FAR AS WATER TOUCHING IMPERMEABLE SURFACES, THERE'S NOT A LOT AND I'M NOT BEING JUDGMENTAL HERE, BUT THAT'S CLAY COUNTY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE EVER HEARD OF CLAY COUNTY BEFORE TONIGHT, BUT IF CLAY COUNTY CAN BE THAT INNOVATIVE, WHY CAN'T BREVARD? WHY CAN'T THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ONE OF THE TECHNOLOGY HUBS OF THE STATE, LET ALONE THE COUNTRY? WHY AREN'T WE USING TECHNOLOGY LIKE THAT? AND HOW MIGHT WE? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.

SO I HOPE THAT OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON HOW WE CAN DO THAT AND REAP THE ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OVER 15 YEARS.

I'VE WORKED WITH THE CITY AS A CONSULTANT DIRECTOR NOW SINCE I'VE LIVED WITH IN THE CITY AND HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

THERE HAS BEEN A PUSH TO ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHEAST, TO GET RECLAIMED WATER OUT.

WE HAVE A OBLIGATION IN OUR CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMIT TO UTILIZE AS MUCH OF OUR RECLAIMED WATER AS WE CAN IN OUR PERMIT.

WE HAVE SANDY PINES SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS A HEAVY USER COUNTRY CLUB, LAKES ESTATES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HALFWAY DEVELOPED IN THE FIRST TWO PHASES, WORKING ON A THIRD PHASE.

THEY'RE CONNECTING EVERY DAY.

WE HAVE. HARRIS AND WAS INTERSIL NOW RENAISSANCE THAT ARE IN OUR PERMIT HOWEVER AND I TOURED THEIR SITES YEARS AND YEARS AGO THEIR BIGGEST COMPLAINT WITH OUR RECLAIMED WATER IS THE QUALITY.

APPARENTLY IT FOULED THEIR COOLING TOWERS AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO USE IT AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN USING IT.

THEY DO USE OUR RECLAIMED WATER FOR IRRIGATION.

WE HAVE APPROACHED OTHERS IN THE CORRIDOR AROUND KIRBY CIRCLE UP CONLON.

THE AGAIN, SIMILAR ISSUE, IF YOU RECALL, MR ASSEMBLY WHEN THEY WERE AROUND, TOURED THEIR FACILITY.

WE WERE TRYING TO GET THEM TO USE AS MUCH AS THEY COULD.

AGAIN, THE WATER QUALITY WASN'T THE BEST.

IT'S DIFFICULT IN THE NORTHEAST BECAUSE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS DON'T EXIST, NOT LIKE THEY DO IN BAYSIDE, THE NORTHWEST, THE SOUTHEAST, TRYING TO EXTEND PIPES AND GETTING PEOPLE TO CONNECT WITHOUT MASTER IRRIGATION SYSTEMS IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT.

AND WE HAVE APPROACHED, YOU KNOW, THE INDUSTRIES IN THE AREA TO TRY TO GET THEM TO CONNECT, TO PROMOTE THAT USE, TO OFFSET WHAT THEY'RE USING FROM THEIR STORMWATER OR THEIR WELLS FOR THEIR CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMITS.

THE BIG ISSUE HAS ALWAYS BEEN QUALITY.

WE ARE WORKING WITH HARRIS TO POTENTIALLY WE HAVE CHANGED THE QUALITY OF OUR RECLAIMED WATER SLIGHTLY AT OUR PLANT.

IT MIGHT BE TO A DEGREE TO WHERE THEY CAN START USING IT FOR THEIR COOLING TOWERS, BUT WE'RE ACTIVELY MEETING WITH THEM TO TRY TO USE IT.

SO WE HAVE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS TRIED TO PROMOTE AND GET PEOPLE TO USE IT.

IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT IN THE NORTHEAST AND THE SOUTH WHERE WE'RE BUILDING OUR NEW WASTEWATER PLANT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE RECLAIMED WATER CAPABILITIES.

WE ARE WE HAVE PLANS TO DESIGN AND EXTEND PIPES ALL THE WAY THROUGH BAYSIDE.

THERE ARE SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE MASS IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT WE CAN CONNECT RIGHT INTO.

WE USE A LOT OF THE RECLAIMED WATER FOR PLANTS.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE FOR SPRAY DOWN CLEANING OF OF SOME OF THE WASTEWATER EQUIPMENT.

AND WE ALSO ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN WHERE THERE ARE MEDIANS THAT CAN BE IRRIGATED.

ALSO UTILIZE IT THERE TO TRY TO OFFSET, AGAIN, THESE THESE MASTER PLANNED CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMITS THIS UP AND

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DOWN BAYSIDE. SO WE ARE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT TO USE RECLAIMED WATER WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

MAYOR, IS THERE ANY ANYTHING MORE? BECAUSE HE BRINGS UP A GREAT POINT.

IS THERE ANYTHING MORE THAT WE AS A COUNCIL CAN DO OR ANY DIRECTION WE CAN GIVE YOU OR IN TERMS OF RECLAIMED WATER? AGAIN, THE ISSUE IS IN THE NORTHEAST, EXTENDING THE LINES AND HAVING PEOPLE THAT CAN CONNECT THAT WILL WANT TO UTILIZE IT IN THE SOUTH.

IT'S A MATTER OF US GETTING THE LINES OUT.

AGAIN. WE'RE IN THE EARLY PHASES OF DESIGN.

WE JUST NEED OUR WASTEWATER PLANT IN THE SOUTH CONSTRUCTED, GET THE LINES OUT AND MOST OF THEM, MOST OF THE USERS HAVE A CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMIT.

IT HAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO USE THE LESSER QUALITY WATER THAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO IF I EXTEND RECLAIMED WATER LINES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY AND THEY CAN READILY CONNECT IN WITH THEIR MASTER SYSTEM, THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO CONNECT UNLESS THEY CAN JUSTIFY TO SAINT JOHN'S WHY IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO CONNECT.

SO SO AT THIS TIME, THEN PROBABLY THE BEST SOLUTION IS JUST CONTINUE TO EDUCATION.

EDUCATION. WE ARE WORKING AGAIN WITH HARRIS.

THEY BETWEEN HARRIS AND RENAISSANCE AND THE PERMIT IT WAS IT'S A LITTLE OVER A MILLION GALLONS PER DAY THAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY USE AGAIN FOR THEIR COOLING PROCESSES. WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO USE AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.

SEEING NONE.

I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 20 2389 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

ADOPTING A FINAL BUDGET AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE FINAL EXCUSE ME ITEM FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

THIS WOULD BE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET FOR 2324.

AND JUST TO RESTATE OUR POSITION, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT IS BUILT ON THE 3% CAP RATE OF 7.0171 AND INCLUDES THE ROAD BOND ROAD BOND DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF 0.9084.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? NO, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

NO. MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.