Sep 07, 2023 Council Meetings - Regular

[CALL TO ORDER]

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I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

2023 DASH 22 TO ORDER.

JOHNNY, HOW ARE YOU, MA'AM? IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU.

OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY FATHER BRIAN TURNER, CHURCH OF THE REDEEMER OF BLESSED REDEEMER.

AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR DONNIE FELIX.

REVEREND. LET US PRAY.

MOST GRACIOUS AND LOVING GOD AS I LIFT UP AND PRAY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALL WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THOSE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING, I OFFER UP THIS PRAYER ATTRIBUTED TO YOUR SAINT FRANCIS.

LORD, HELP MAKE EACH OF US SERVANTS OF YOUR PEACE.

WHERE THERE IS HATRED, LET US SOW LOVE WHERE THERE IS INJURY.

PARDON? WHERE THERE IS DISCORD UNION.

WHERE THERE IS DOUBT.

FAITH WHERE THERE IS DESPAIR.

HOPE WHERE THERE IS DARKNESS.

LIGHT WHERE THERE IS SADNESS.

JOY. GRANT THAT WE MAY NOT SO MUCH SEEK TO BE CONSOLED AS TO CONSOLE OTHERS, TO BE UNDERSTOOD AS TO UNDERSTAND OTHERS.

TO BE LOVED AS TO LOVE OTHERS.

FOR IT IS IN GIVING THAT WE RECEIVE, IT IS IN PARDONING, THAT WE ARE PARDONED AND IT IS IN DYING TO SELF THAT WE FIND NEW LIFE IN YOU.

AND SO MAY YOU GRANT YOUR FAVOR AND YOUR BLESSING AND YOUR GUIDANCE TO THOSE GATHERED HERE THIS EVENING.

THAT ALL MAY WORK FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF THIS COMMUNITY.

WE ASK AND PRAY THIS TONIGHT IN THE PRECIOUS NAME OF YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN. AMEN.

HE'S THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HURRAH! I TELL YOU, YOU GUYS MOTIVATE ME EVERY TIME YOU SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN UNISON.

ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA.

PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

JUST ONE MOMENT. COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YES, MISS SHERMAN.

HERE. MISS SMITH.

HERE. DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR. ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN CONTROL DISTRICT BOARD.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

THANK YOU. AGENDA REVISIONS.

[AGENDA REVISIONS]

YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS RELATED TO HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS BEING CONTINUED TO THE SEPTEMBER 19TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

ALSO A TRAVEL REQUEST FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ATTEND THE MAYORS SUMMIT AGAINST ANTISEMITISM IN NOVEMBER HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM NUMBER SIX UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

AND LASTLY, CONSIDERATION OF CITY COUNCIL FLAG PROGRAM NOMINEE KEITH VAN BUREN HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM SEVEN UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

YES, MA'AM. ANYTHING ELSE? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

SO, MISS SMITH? NO, SIR. UM, COUNCIL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD MOVE ITEMS UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

ONE, TWO.

THREE. UP IN THE AGENDA. PRIOR TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY VICE OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN EYE.

HI. HI.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

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I SAID. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

GOOD EVENING. OUTSTANDING.

YOU GUYS MOTIVATE ME.

LISTEN, I'M GOING TO CALL UP OUR TEAM.

BRIDGET. YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND BRING YOUR TEAM WITH YOU? ACTUALLY, YOUR LIEUTENANT SHOULD BE THERE JUST ABOUT ALL YOUR TEETH.

COME ON UP, SISTER.

UP. DON'T BE SHY.

IT'S NATIONAL FORENSIC SCIENCE WEEK.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

WHEREAS THE PRACTICE OF FORENSIC SCIENCE CAN BE DEFINED AS THE APPLICATION OF SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES, METHODS, AND TECHNIQUES TO MATTERS, AIDING IN THE PURSUIT OF TRUTH IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARDS TO THE COLLECTION, EXAMINATION AND ANALYSIS OF PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

AND. WHEREAS, CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS, WHICH ARE HERE WITH US, PROVIDE UNBIASED, ACCURATE AND RELIABLE ANALYSIS OF EVIDENCE.

THESE HIGHLY TRAINED, EDUCATED AND EXPERIENCED PROFESSIONALS EXEMPLIFY THE CORE VALUES OF OUR LEGAL SYSTEM.

WHEREAS EVIDENCE TECHNICIANS PLAY A ROLE IN THE PRESERVATION AND PROPER STORAGE OF EVIDENCE, WHICH DRAMATICALLY IMPROVES THE INVESTIGATION OF CAUSES AND FUTURE OF CASES AND FUTURE PROSECUTIONS.

WHEREAS THE SUPPORTING FORENSIC SCIENCE WEEK, WE HONOR THE HARD WORK, DEDICATION AND DILIGENCE OF ALL THESE WHO WORK IN THE FIELD OF FORENSIC SCIENCE ACROSS OUR NATION AND IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT COMPOSE OUR FORENSIC SCIENCE ORGANIZATIONS DESERVE UNIVERSAL REGARD AND APPRECIATION FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO PROPER SCIENTIFIC AND INVESTIGATION FOR THE CAUSE OF JUSTICE.

AND. WHEREAS, INAUGURATED IN 2013, THE FORENSIC SCIENCE WEEK OFFERS SUCH COMMENDATION AS FROM SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 27TH TO SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD, THE CITY OF PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CRIME SCENE UNIT AND EVIDENCE UNIT ALONGSIDE LABORATORIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE CELEBRATING THE 10TH ANNUAL FORENSIC SCIENCE WEEK TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE VALUE OF FORENSIC SCIENCE, SCIENCE RESEARCH, THE ROLE OF CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS WHILE INFORMING THE PUBLIC OF THE OF CURRENT CAPABILITIES AND FUTURE CHALLENGES FACING THE FIELD OF FORENSIC SCIENCE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 20TH 7TH OR SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD 2023 AS NATIONAL FORENSIC SCIENCE WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I CALL UPON ALL THE GOOD PEOPLE OF OUR CITY TO JOIN ME IN EXPRESSING APPRECIATION TO THE PEOPLE, FACILITIES AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT MADE MAKE RELIABLE FORENSIC SCIENCE POSSIBLE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITNESS WHEREOF I HAVE SET MY HAND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THIS CITY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023.

MISS BRIDGET, COME ON UP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LENDING YOUR EAR BRIEFLY.

I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR, ESPECIALLY FOR ANNOUNCING OUR PROCLAMATION, OUR CHIEF AND COMMAND STAFF, FOR SUPPORTING US WITH THIS PROCLAMATION AS A START TO FURTHER PURSUING ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY AND SCIENCE AS WE ELEVATE OUR PRACTICES AND OUR INVESTIGATIONS.

SO FORENSIC SCIENCE WEEK IS NOT JUST A WEEK ABOUT CELEBRATION.

IT'S A WEEK ABOUT FORENSIC SCIENTISTS AS A WHOLE GETTING TOGETHER, HAVING DISCUSSION FORUMS, HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ADVANCEMENTS IN TECHNOLOGY. WE RECENTLY ARE LOOKING INTO FORENSIC GENEALOGY, FOR EXAMPLE.

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WE WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE FORENSIC SCIENCE AS A WHOLE.

AND WITH THAT PROMOTION, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE GOING OUT TO OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IN THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER.

SO PLEASE COME SEE US OUT WITH ALL OF OUR VARIOUS OTHER EXTRACURRICULAR POLICE FIELDS.

THESE. FACTS THAT I PRESENT TO YOU ARE A BRIEF OUTLOOK OF WHAT WE CELEBRATE.

BUT WHAT I ALSO WANT TO PROMOTE IS THESE LADIES BEHIND ME AS WELL.

WE HAVE EIGHT WOMEN, EIGHT VERY, VERY INTELLIGENT AND STRONG WOMEN IN OUR FORENSIC SCIENCE FIELD.

FOUR OF THOSE WOMEN INCLUDE OUR EVIDENCE TECHNICIANS, WHICH RANGE FROM TWO PEOPLE WITH 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SOMEONE WITH TEN YEARS EXPERIENCE IN EVIDENCE ALONE, AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL THAT IS LOOKING FORWARD TO EVEN BECOMING A CRIME SCENE TECHNICIAN HERSELF.

OUR CRIME SCENE TECHNICIANS ARE A LITTLE NEWER, BUT THAT'S NOT TO DEMOTE THEM WHATSOEVER.

ONE OF OUR CRIME SCENE TECHNICIANS ON HER OWN DID 25 HOURS OF HARD LABOR ON AN INVESTIGATION THAT LED TO AN EVENTUAL CONVICTION.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A CRIME SCENE TECHNICIAN THAT WAS BASICALLY SOLO AT TWO MONTHS BUT HANDLED HER OWN.

SO STRONG.

SHE'S NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.

SHE HAS KIDS.

SHE HAS FOUR OF THEM, TO BE EXACT.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF A HANDFUL.

BUT SHE'S AN AMAZING PERSON.

AND THEN WE HAVE TWO OR SORRY, AN ADDITIONAL PERSON THAT IS CURRENTLY WITH THE ARMY DOING HER DUTIES IN THE QUARTERMASTER FIELD SINCE THE HURRICANE OCCURRED.

AND SHE HAS TO HANDLE HER STUFF OVER AT THAT SITE RIGHT NOW.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO MY BRIEF SPEECH.

AND PLEASE CLAP WITH ME IN CELEBRATING THESE PHENOMENAL WOMEN THAT ARE HERE AND NOT HERE.

YEAH. SURE.

SO THE I'M THE LIEUTENANT OVER THE DIVISION, LIEUTENANT GREG LEONARD.

AND THE MAYOR HAS ASKED ME TO SAY A COUPLE WORDS, WHICH I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THESE WOMEN IN CRIME SCENE.

THEY'RE AMAZING, PROFESSIONAL.

AND THE THE THE WAY THAT THEY MANAGE THE TECHNICALITIES OF THESE CASES DOWN TO THE FINEST DETAIL IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING A CONVICTION AND NOT.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND A LOT OF TIMES GET UNRECOGNIZED BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING ALL THIS WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

THEN. COME ON.

COUPLE.

GOOD.

CAN. WON'T YOU COME DOWN HERE? DON'T STAY DOWN HERE. BECAUSE THIS.

THIS. THIS NEXT PROCLAMATION.

PROCLAMATION IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL UP MR. WAYNE PRICE. COME ON UP, MISTER PRICE.

THIS IS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH.

UP ON THE PODIUM, SIR.

YES, SIR. GREAT TO SEE YOU, SIR.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT WHEREAS SEPTEMBER IS DESIGNATED AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH, AS RECOGNIZED BY THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MENTAL ILLNESS.

AND. WHEREAS, MANY HEALTH OFFICIALS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS LOCALLY, STATE AND NATIONALLY, UNDERSTAND THE MENTAL, THAT MENTAL ILLNESS IS A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE OF OCCURRENCE OF CONCERN, PARTICULARLY AMONG OUR YOUTH AND OUR VETERANS.

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AND. WHEREAS, ONE MAJOR HURDLE IS REMOVING THE STIGMA ATTACHED TO MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND DISCUSSION.

AND. WHEREAS, INDIVIDUALS, BUSINESSES, ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND MANY OTHER RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF EMOTIONAL HEALTH.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY IS SET OFF OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2023 AS NATIONAL SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND WILL ENCOURAGE A POSITIVE EFFORT TO INSPIRE THOSE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TO SEEK THE HELP OF A FAMILY MEMBER, SEEK THE HELP OF A FRIEND, COLLEAGUE, OR A LICENSED MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL TO ASSIST THEM IN THE TIMES OF NEED.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS EFFORTS ON THE SPACE COAST TO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND RESOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS AND WITNESS HEREOF.

I SET MY HAND TO CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2023.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. PRICE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

COME ON. SO I'M WAYNE PRICE AND I'M WITH THE SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION.

AND I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK IS THAT WE ALL KNOW SUICIDE IS A PROBLEM.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO STOP THAT, PEOPLE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT THERE WHO CARES.

AND TONIGHT, THIS PROCLAMATION SHOWS THAT PALM BAY CARES AND IT'S GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS PRICE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES ]

MR. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

ON MARCH 1ST, MY DAUGHTER WENT INTO A DIABETIC COMA ON AUGUST 28TH AT AGE 51.

SHE GAVE UP THE BATTLE.

YESTERDAY I ATTENDED HER FUNERAL.

SO AS SUCH, I COULD NOT ATTEND A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.

WITH GREAT APPRECIATION.

SUSAN CONNOLLY.

EXCUSE ME. I APOLOGIZE.

SPOKE FORM.

BUT ME BEING THE PERSON THAT I AM, I STILL WANT TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT.

SO I'M GOING TO REPEAT SOME OF THOSE STATEMENTS.

I GOT MY PROPOSED TAX BILL.

16 LINE ITEMS FOR LOWERED THREE STAYED THE SAME AND TWO RAISED THE MILLAGE RATE.

NOW YOU SIT UP THERE, PAT YOURSELVES ON THE BACK BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DOUBLE A PLUS RATING.

YOU FAILED ON YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

THANKS TO THE RESIDENTS VOTING TO BAIL YOU OUT WITH $150 MILLION GO ROAD BOND PLUS $9 MILLION BOND FOR THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THAT IS STILL NOT BEEN COMPLETED.

WITHOUT THESE ACTIONS, THE CITY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE RED.

THE CITY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE POLICE, FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

YET NEARLY 70% OF THE 1970S CITY LIMITS DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER AND YOU WITH NO PLANNED MECHANISM TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

SO QUIT BRAGGING ABOUT YOUR LOAN RATING AND SHOW SOME APPRECIATION TOWARDS THE TAXPAYERS BY LOWERING THE MILLAGE RATE AND CONCENTRATING ON YOUR CHARTER MANDATED RESPONSIBILITIES, NOT THROWING PARTIES AT PARKS AND REC BECAUSE IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR FACADE IMAGE.

AT LAST NIGHT'S VOTE, YOU VOTED TO LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE FROM 7.5995 TO

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THAT IS A STEP IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION, BUT WE ARE STILL NOT WHOLE YET.

SO THAT DOES NOT LET YOU OFF THE HOT SEAT YET.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

AND SUSAN CONNOLLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SPEAKING FOR ME.

THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

AND AND PLEASE ACCEPT OUR PRAYERS FOR PEACE AND COMFORT FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

WE ARE TRULY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS.

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. TAMBLYN. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF HEARING FROM ME.

SO LAST MEETING, I HANDED OUT THIS MAP.

TO EVERYBODY HERE.

AND RECENTLY I DISCOVERED THAT THIS DOTTED LINE AROUND THIS MAP DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 13TH, 14TH AND 15TH HOLES OF THE OLD GOLF COURSE.

I'M WONDERING, HAS SHE ABANDONED THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE CITY? AND I GUARANTEE YOU I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO MAKE SURE ALL THESE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE PROTECTED BY THEIR 15 FOOT.

I WILL GO PERSONALLY AND HAND OUT FLIERS TELLING THEM HOW TO FILE A COMPLAINT AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL GET HUNDREDS OF COMPLAINTS. IT'S RIDICULOUS.

THE COMPLAINTS FOR 3375 BAYSIDE LAKES, THERE'S ONLY BEEN LIKE 20IN THE LAST YEAR.

PEOPLE GO TO FILE A COMPLAINT AND IT SAYS, USE THIS MAP AND IT THE MAP POINTS YOU TO YOUR LOCATION AND YOU SAY, CONTINUE. WELL, THOSE COMPLAINTS ARE INVALID.

SO 20IN THE LAST YEAR, 11 OF THEM HAVE BEEN INVALID.

SO PEOPLE HAVE NOT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE THAT.

AND THE CODE COMPLIANCE WEBSITE, IT'S GOT TO DIRECT THEM TO SAY, WHAT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER OR ADDRESS THAT YOU'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT, NOT USE THIS MAP AND DIRECT YOU AT YOUR ADDRESS. NEXT, WHEN IS THE NEXT MAGISTRATE MEETING AND WILL THE AGENDA BE PUBLICIZED? THERE'S NOTHING ON THE WEBSITE NOW FOR THE NEXT MAGISTRATE MEETING.

THE MAGISTRATE MUST MEET ONCE A MONTH OR MORE OFTEN AS NEEDED.

THERE'S LOTS OF COMPLAINTS OUT THERE.

THE MAGISTRATE, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO MEET.

AND LASTLY, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES, PALM BAY IS THE LARGEST CITY IN POPULATION AND ACREAGE IN BREVARD COUNTY, BUT YET WE DON'T HAVE A GOLF COURSE.

WE DON'T HAVE A SHOPPING MALL.

WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN WITH NICE RESTAURANTS.

SO WHEN IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE? WE NEED STUFF OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. MARK MORIN.

SAY THAT AGAIN. MARK MORAN.

MARK MORAN. I TALKED TO HIM.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

PASTOR KEN DELGADO.

THANK YOU. GOT A 154 ANGELO ROAD, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE NATIONAL SUICIDE MONTH.

MY BROTHER TOOK HIS LIFE THIS YEAR.

AND AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REACH OUT TO THOSE WHO THINK THAT THEY HAVE NO HOPE AND TO HAVE FRIENDS THAT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT.

HEART GOES OUT TO BILL BATTEN, HIS FAMILY THAT ALSO LOST.

I'M HERE ALSO TO JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ON ON WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, WHICH IS THE WORD OF GOD.

AND THE BIBLE SAYS IN JOHN 1426, JESUS IS SPEAKING.

HE SAYS, BUT BUT THE HELPER OR THE COMFORTER, THE HOLY SPIRIT, WHOM THE FATHER WILL SEND IN MY NAME, HE WILL TEACH YOU ALL THINGS.

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AND THEN HE SAYS, PEACE.

I LEAVE WITH YOU, MY PEACE.

I GIVE YOU.

AND THE REALITY THAT THAT IN THE FULLEST OF SENSE, GOD UNDERSTANDS THE LOSS OF LIFE.

IT AS MUCH AS HE LOST HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, HE KNOWS WHAT IT IS TO HAVE TO LOSE SOMETHING THAT'S VALUABLE, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO LIKEWISE UNDERSTANDS, BECAUSE HE PARTICIPATED IN ALL OF THE GIFT OF LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST IN HIS DEATH, BURIAL AND RESURRECTION.

I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH WITH NOT JUST YOU ALL, BUT WITH THE WORLD THAT THERE IS A COMFORTER, THERE IS A HELPER THERE, THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S REACHING OUT, WHO WANTS TO HEAL HEARTS, RESTORE BROKENNESS, AND BRING WHOLENESS AND LIFE BACK TO US, WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES TO US THAT MAYBE ARE HURTING. HE IS HERE.

HE DOES UNDERSTAND AND IS REACHING OUT ALWAYS TO TO STRENGTHEN US, COMFORT US AND RESTORE OUR BROKENNESS, WHICH CERTAINLY WE CAN SAY IN THIS WORLD THAT'S WHAT WE NEED, IS SOME RESTORATION ON BROKENNESS.

ALSO, I'D LIKE TO SEND MY LOVE TO RANDY FOSTER.

WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER TO SAY THAT MAY GOD CONTINUE TO STRENGTHEN YOU, BRING HEALING TO YOUR BODY AND RESTORE YOU TO FULL FUNCTION.

HOPE TO SEE YOU BACK SOON.

YOU ARE MISSED. WE THANK GOD FOR YOU IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. ROBERT STICE.

GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL.

ROBERT STICE, 1796, LYNBROOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

IN MY OPINION LLC IS MOVING TO HAVE THE ABILITY NOT TO MOW AS PER WHAT'S WHAT'S CALLED UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.

PERSONALLY, I'M SURPRISED IT TOOK THIS LONG FOR THEM TO PULL THIS LEVER HERE.

BUT AS OUR LEADERS AND AS PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE, YOU SAID THAT YOU REMEMBER 1988 BAYSIDE LAKES WAS GOING WAS BEING BUILT AND HOW PROUD YOU WERE OF IT.

AND I'VE CHATTED WITH EACH ONE OF YOU, BUT THIS PROPERTY STILL OWNS STILL ZONED FOR 15 ACRE LOTS.

THIS IS A WAITING GAME THAT THIS HAS TURNED INTO.

OKAY. YOU ALL KNOW THAT PLACING OVER 307 307 HOMES IN THIS AREA SIMPLY IS GOING TO OBLITERATE BAYSIDE LAKES.

YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A MIDDLE UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST FLATTEN IT.

OKAY. IT JUST IT JUST GALLS ME THAT WE'RE PUSHING TO GREATLY REDUCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE TO ALMOST 3000 HOMES THAT CONTINUES TO GROW IN THIS AREA.

IT'S NOT ABOUT SO MANY PEOPLE PLAYING GOLF.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF IT.

THE OTHER PART IS IT'S THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS.

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GOING TO GOING TO PUBLIX OR HEALTH CARE OR THE SCHOOLS, NOT TO MENTION THE TRAFFIC AND KAMIKAZE CURVE THAT SUZANNE'S WORKED QUITE HARD TO HELP MINIMIZE THAT DANGER ON THAT.

IT'S IT'S GOTTEN CRAZY HERE.

YOU KNOW, IT ALSO CEMENTS THE BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

YOU PUT ANOTHER 300 HOMES IN HERE YOU CAN YOU CEMENTING THAT BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

MY QUESTION TO ALL OF YOU IS THIS IS ABOUT YOUR LEGACY.

YOU KNOW, YOU TOOK YOU WERE PICKING UP THE PIECES HERE FROM THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE GOING ON SEVEN YEARS, I'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK.

YOU HAVE A GREAT STAFF.

OKAY. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THIS? CAN YOU BE PATIENT ENOUGH? CAN YOU MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS? HOW DO YOU WANT TO BE REMEMBERED? ELECTIONS ARE COMING UP.

I'M NOT THREATENING YOU, BUT SOONER OR LATER YOU'RE GOING TO MIGRATE OUT, RIGHT? HOW DO YOU WANT TO BE REMEMBERED? YOU'VE GOT A LOT. IT'S LIKE YOU'VE GOT WET DOUGH IN YOUR HAND.

L3. HARRIS IS STILL COMING.

COMING IN HERE. THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.

THEY'RE GOING TO WANT AN AREA TO BE TO HAVE SOME RECREATION.

WE ALL WANT SOME RECREATION.

WE DON'T WANT TO GO OUT AN OUT OF THE CITY TO GOLF OR TO PLAY OR TO HAVE A GOOD MEAL OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

OKAY. I'M ASKING YOU, YOU PEOPLE OF INTEGRITY.

STAY ON INTEGRITY.

STAY FOCUSED ON THIS.

LET'S MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. RANDALL OSOFSKY.

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GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RANDALL OLSZEWSKI.

I LIVE AT 348 BROOK STREET, NORTHEAST.

FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO SAY HOW BOUT THEM SEMINOLES? BUT I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY ADDRESSING LAST EVENING'S BUDGET WORKSHOP BECAUSE IT WAS LIGHTLY ATTENDED.

MR. BILL BATTEN WAS HERE IN SPIRIT AND MY THOUGHTS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

TO SIR, THROUGH MISS CONNELLY.

I WAS HERE. THERE WAS A FEW OTHERS.

THERE WAS A FEW VIEWERS AS FAR AS ONLINE.

BUT I HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY HONES IN AND UNDERSTANDS THE CONTEXT OF THAT WORKSHOP, MAYBE GOES BACK AND WATCHES IT BACK, AND I'LL SAVE YOU THE DIATRIBE.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND WATCH ME GO ON MY DIATRIBE ON VIDEO.

I WON'T DO THAT THIS EVENING, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO DOUBLE CLICK, IF YOU WILL, ON MR. BATTEN'S STATEMENT THAT ONLY TWO TAX TAXING AUTHORITIES ON THIS ENTIRE BILL OF 16 OR SO PROPOSED TO INCREASE TAXES, TO PROPOSE TO INCREASE THEIR MILLAGE RATE AND THAT BEING THE SEBASTIAN INLET DISTRICT WANTS ANOTHER FEW DOLLARS AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT, THE CITY OF PALM BAY ADVERTISED THAT THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE MILLAGE RATE AT 7.5995, WHICH WAS AN INCREASE IN TAXES OF 3.6% JUST ON THAT LINE ITEM.

BUT AT THE BUDGET WORKSHOP, THE CITY COUNCIL VOTED TO BRING THAT RATE DOWNWARD TO 7.0171.

BUT ALL OF THE ADVERTISEMENTS STILL SAY 7.5995 AND NOW THE COMMUNITY IS STILL CONFUSED AND THE COMMUNITY STILL FEELS LIKE THEIR TAXES ARE GOING UP BECAUSE THERE'S NO TRANSPARENCY AND THERE'S NO UNDERSTANDING INTO THE PROCESS.

AND THERE USED TO BE A VALIANT ATTEMPT AT TRANSPARENCY INTO THE PROCESS, AND THAT WAS THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

AND NO LESS THAN TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS CONSECUTIVE AGO.

DID YOU, AS THE THREE SITTING HERE AND THE ONE THAT GRACES US IN THE SKY, VOTE DOWN THAT BOARD, REMOVE THAT BOARD, RENDER THAT BOARD MOOT? NOW, THERE'S AN ATTEMPT HAS BEEN ATTEMPTS IN THE PAST TO DO AN IDENTICAL MANEUVER TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.

AND AT THIS POINT, WHEN IT COMES BACK UP, AS I'M SURE IT WILL, BECAUSE I'M ON IT AND I'M SPEAKING AGAINST YOUR WILL, SO IT SHALL TO DISSOLVE.

THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD HAS MADE A VALIANT ATTEMPT TO PUT TRANSPARENCY INTO THE PROCESS OF UNDERSTANDING THE CAMPGROUND PROJECT OF FRED COFFEY PARK, WHICH IS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. NOW MOST FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THAT PROJECT.

THINK THAT PROJECT IS DEAD.

IT'S ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS.

THERE WAS TWO MEETINGS OF THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD WHERE WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THOROUGH CONVERSATIONS AND WE WERE GOING TO HAVE DIALOG AND WE WERE GOING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROJECT BETTER.

AND THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

AND SO NOW WE'RE HERE. TONIGHT I'LL COME UP AND I'LL TALK FROM MY 100 AND 80S I'M GRANTED ON THAT PUBLIC ISSUE.

BUT I'M HIGHLIGHTING TO YOU AND TO MY COMMUNITY AND TO MY NEIGHBORS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY INTO THE MULTIPLE PROCESSES WITHIN THIS CITY IS WHAT CREATES THE OPTICS PROBLEM THAT YOU ALL RAN ON TO FIGHT AGAINST.

TRANSPARENCY IS CLEAR.

YOU GUYS ARE TRANSLUCENT AT BEST.

RIGHT NOW I CAN SEE FIGURES AND I CAN ONLY SEE THREE AND I'M SUPPOSED TO SEE FIVE.

I FEEL VERY UNDERREPRESENTED.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. HUMBERTO MARTINEZ.

OH, HI. GOOD EVENING.

I'M UMBERTO MARTINEZ.

I WAS HERE LAST NIGHT, YOU GUYS.

THE THING OF THE PROPERTY TAXES AND STUFF.

YOU GUYS WERE VERY HELPFUL IN DIRECTING ME IN THE AGENCIES TO TALK TO.

AND WHEN I FINALLY DID GET TO SPEAK TO SOMEONE AT THE THE COUNTY APPRAISAL THING, THEY BASICALLY TOLD ME, WELL, THERE'S NOT MUCH WE COULD DO. THEY SAID AS FAR AS LOWERING THE THE TAX RATE AND THE APPRAISAL OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING BY THE NEW MARKET VALUES OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I MOVED IN THERE, AS I SAID, MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE BOBCATS, ASIDE FROM THREE OTHER HOUSES.

AND NOW IT'S LIKE A FULL BLOSSOM NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S A ROAD WHERE THERE USED TO BE A DIRT ONE.

AND SO THEY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAXING ON THE SALES AND VALUES OF THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID, IN 2021, I WAS ASSESSED THAT TAXED AT 66% VALUE OF THE HOUSE.

THEN AT 100% VALUE.

NOW THIS YEAR, 93%.

AND YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL MY TAXES ARE AND OH, BY THE WAY, THANKS FOR YOU GUYS LOWERING THE ONE OF YOUR TAXES DOWN TO 200. I WAS INFORMED.

BUT THEY BASICALLY THEY TOLD ME I CAN GO TO A HEARING TO APPEAL IT.

BUT THE GUY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE SAME FIGURES THEY LOOKED AT ON THE APPEAL.

AND I'M GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOTHING THAT NO ONE'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO.

AND I'LL STILL BE STUCK WITH A $4,200 TAX BILL INSTEAD OF A $4,400 TAX BILL.

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CAN YOU GO I MEAN, I HAVE A PROPOSAL.

HOW ABOUT LIKE I MENTIONED LAST NIGHT, HOW ABOUT TAXING THE GOOD CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THEIR HOUSE AND DO AWAY WITH THIS ASSESSMENT AGENCY THAT ASSESSES THE VALUES THAT OF NUMBERS THAT AS THEY PULL OUT OF THE AIR, THEY GO, WELL, OKAY, WELL, HOUSES ARE NOW SELLING FOR THIS. YOUR HOUSE IS BUILT IN 2005, BUT WE'RE GOING TO VALUE IT AT THAT AND WE'RE GOING TO TAX YOU AT 193 OR WHATEVER PERCENT OF THE THING IS.

AND EVEN WITH THE HOMESTEAD, IT DOESN'T HELP MUCH AND WITH THE OTHER STUFF.

SO IS THERE A WAY TO RE FIND A NEW WAY TO TAX THE THE PROPERTY TAXES OR IS THERE A LEGISLATION THAT COULD BE BROUGHT UP? OH, WELL, I'M JUST ABOUT RUNNING OUT OF TIME HERE, BUT IT'S LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT TO BE TAXED OUT OF MY HOME AND FORCED TO SELL MY HOUSE AND TRY TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE, EITHER TO ANOTHER STATE OR ANOTHER COUNTY.

WELL, THAT'S. THANK YOU, MISS NATALIE.

DO WE? HELLO. HI, MY NAME IS NATALIE.

I LIVE AT 1884 LYNBROOK DRIVE IN SUMMERFIELD.

I GUESS.

WE'RE ALL JUST YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD SO MANY STORIES AND COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE GOLF COURSE NOT BEING CUT.

UM, I'M JUST REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE EVEN ARE HERE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN WE WERE LIKE, JUST DISCUSSING INCREASING THE LOT SIZES FOR HER NOT TO BE ABLE TO SELL TO A BUILDER THAT CAN BUILD TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF HOMES THAT WE WERE THINKING WOULD GO ON THIS GOLF COURSE.

SO WHEN THAT GOT SHOT DOWN, WE WERE KIND OF EXCITED THAT MAYBE AT SOME POINT SHE WOULD EITHER KEEP THE COURSE OPEN OR POTENTIALLY SELL IT TO ANOTHER PERSON THAT WOULD WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN AS A GOLF COURSE.

SO THE WHOLE THE WHOLE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY HAS REALLY BEEN IN THIS UP AND DOWN CYCLE FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.

AND JUST WHEN WE GET OUR HOPES UP THAT THE LAW IS IS IN OUR DIRECTION OR IN OUR FAVOR, THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE COURSE IS CLOSED NOW.

SO WE YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT AT LEAST SHE WAS GOING TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.

I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.

SHE'S, YOU KNOW, PAYING TAXES.

SHE MIGHT STILL OWE A MORTGAGE ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO WE DON'T YOU KNOW, ME AS A HOMEOWNER, I DON'T WANT TO BE PUTTING OUT MONEY UNLESS IT'S NECESSARY.

SO I SIDE WITH WITH HEATHER A LITTLE BIT.

BUT ALSO, I FEEL LIKE THE CITY HAS LET US ALL DOWN IN REGARDS TO NOT BEING MAYBE UP FRONT WITH US AS TO LIKE HER, WHAT SHE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO WITH THIS PROPERTY, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE BASICALLY WHERE SHE'S NOT GOING TO CUT THIS AT ALL OR MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY.

AND ANYBODY THAT'S TRYING TO SELL THEIR HOUSE IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME BECAUSE OF THIS GOLF COURSE, THE CONDITION OF IT.

SO OUR PROPERTIES HAVE GONE DOWN SINCE SHE HAS CLOSED THE PROPERTY AND NOT MAINTAINED IT.

AND IT'S JUST BECOMING A VERY BIG EYESORE IN THIS AREA.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE LONG RUN, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A DETERRENT WHERE PEOPLE THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING HERE NOW, BUT AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF SEEING THAT IN THE CONDITION THAT IT'S IN, THEY'RE GOING TO FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO MOVE OUT LIKE PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO DO NOW.

UM, SO THAT'S THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

MISTER NATHAN WHITE.

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WITH REGARDS TO THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD THAT WAS DISSOLVED BY THIS COUNCIL JUST RECENTLY, AS STATED BY MULTIPLE COUNCILMAN BECAUSE OF THE MISINFORMATION.

CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC MISINFORMATION SLASH MOVEMENT SLASH PETITION OF CERTAIN MEMBERS OR MEMBER OF THE BOARD, WHICH WAS ME.

I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE MISINFORMATION LABEL THAT MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GAVE TO MY MY RHETORIC AND MY PETITION.

UH, SPECIFICALLY, WHAT A QUOTE, PLEASE.

ANY ANY DIRECT QUOTE.

ANY DIRECT QUOTE OF MINE THAT YOU COULD GIVE AS AN EXAMPLE OF MISINFORMATION.

THE ONLY THINGS I CAN THINK OF THAT YOU COULD EVEN CLAIM WOULD SIMPLY BE SUBJECTIVE STATEMENTS, MATTERS OF OPINION.

LIKE IF I WERE TO SAY THAT SOMETHING IS OUT OF CONTROL.

WELL, THAT COULD BE A MATTER OF OPINION.

BUT IF I SAID.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GO BANKRUPT IN NOVEMBER.

WELL, THAT'S A VERY FIRM STATEMENT.

THAT'S EITHER CORRECT OR INCORRECT.

SO AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE APPRECIATED SINCE YOU DISSOLVED AN ENTIRE ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE OF MY PETITION CALLING IT MISINFORMATION.

ALSO A QUESTION THAT I WAS HOPING TO GET AN ANSWER FROM YOU VIA THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AS MY PETITION DOES, THE AMENDMENT THAT MY PETITION IS FOR DOES SPECIFICALLY REFERENCE THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD MANDATING IT WOULD MANDATE THAT THEY DO A REVIEW OF COUNCIL'S DECISION AND REASONING TO VIOLATE THE LIMIT THAT IT PROPOSES.

IT WOULD NOT GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO STOP IT, BUT ONLY REVIEW IT TO INCREASE PUBLIC INFORMATION AND PARTICIPATION DISCUSSION.

BUT AS IT IS REFERENCED IN THE AMENDMENT AND NOW NO LONGER EXISTS.

I WAS HOPING TO GET THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INPUT ON WHETHER OR NOT THE AMENDMENT IS STILL LEGALLY FEASIBLE OR VIABLE.

SINCE THAT BOARD NO LONGER EXISTS.

JUST WANTED TO GET AN AFFIRMATIVE OR A FIRM LEGAL OPINION ON WHETHER OR NOT THE COUNCIL'S DECISION DID IN FACT NULLIFY MY PETITION AND THE SEVERAL HUNDRED SIGNATURES THAT IT HAD GOTTEN SO FAR.

AND LASTLY, BECAUSE I SPOKE FASTER THAN I THOUGHT I WOULD.

THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE ONE THAT THE VERSION THAT WAS RELEASED IN, I BELIEVE IT WAS EARLY AUGUST.

IT MENTIONS ON PAGE FIVE CURRENT YEAR GROSS TAXABLE VALUES FOR OPERATING PURPOSES, INCLUDING NEW CONSTRUCTION.

NEW CONSTRUCTION IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE 3% CAP.

WE ALL REMEMBER TOTALS NINE OR EXCUSE ME, TOTALS $7.9 BILLION, AN INCREASE OF 20% IN TAXABLE VALUES FROM NEW CONSTRUCTION ALONE, WHICH IS NOT LIMITED BY THE CAP INCREASED BY 61%.

THANK YOU. PRIOR FISCAL YEAR.

WHY DID WE NOT ROLL BACK THE RATE? THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY.

IS THERE A RESPONSE THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE REGARDING HIS QUESTION ABOUT THE PETITION? YES, SIR. IF THE PETITION SUCCEEDS AND IS MADE A PART OF THE CHARTER, THE CHARTER WILL REQUIRE THE BOARD FOR THAT SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

IT DOESN'T BRING IT BACK TO ITS HOW IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO DO ANYTHING THAT TRIGGERED THAT BOARD, THAT BOARD WOULD HAVE TO ASSEMBLE AND DO WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE CHARTER.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER.

DEPUTY MAYOR JULIAN PRESSLEY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME.

WE'D LIKE TO APPLY FOR THE TINY HOME.

$10,000 TINY HOME PROJECT.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING OURSELVES TO FIND IT AND FIGURE IT OUT, BUT WE NEED HELP.

WE'D LIKE TO APPLY FOR THAT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION? I'M ACTUALLY NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S BEING REFERENCED, BUT I CAN HAVE YOU TALK TO A MEMBER OF STAFF WHO CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YEAH, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, CHRIS HENDEL.

HI, I'M CHRIS HENDEL.

I LIVE AT 2855 MORRIS AVENUE NORTHEAST.

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I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS.

WE WERE ON THE SCHEDULE TO BE REPAVED AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I SEEN THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE WORKING ON ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL.

I STOPPED AND TALKED TO THEM AND THEY SAID, OH, YOUR ROAD'S BEEN TAKEN OFF OF THE LIST.

AND. UM, I THINK MY FATHER ALSO SENT YOU AN EMAIL ABOUT OUR ROAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY REMOVED THE ROAD FROM THE LIST.

BUT THEN THIS COMPANY IS BUYING MILLION DOLLAR EQUIPMENT TO RESTABILIZE ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL AND RAISE ORANGE BLOSSOM TRAIL UP.

AND THEY STILL DON'T WANT TO PAVE A QUARTER MILE ROAD.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THEY SAID IT WAS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL TOOK IT OFF OF THE LIST BECAUSE IT WAS UNIMPROVED.

HALF OF THE ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN PALM BAY THAT HAVE BEEN REPAVED DID NOT NEED TO BE REPAVED.

THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM.

SO I'M ASKING FOR IT TO BE PUT ON THE LIST.

TO PUT BACK ON THE LIST TO BE REPAVED.

IT HAS ASPHALT MILLINGS RIGHT NOW.

THAT WAS DONE.

THERE'S NO MAINTENANCE THAT IS EVER DONE ON OUR ROAD.

US AS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON OUR ROAD HAVE TO GO CUT THE TREES BACK OFF OF THE ROAD JUST SO WE CAN DRIVE WITHOUT SCRATCHING OUR VEHICLES.

SO AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU CALL TO IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THEY JUST SEND YOU TO ANOTHER OFFICE.

AND IF THEY SEND YOU TO ANOTHER OFFICE, THEN THAT OFFICE NEVER RESPONDS AND GIVES YOU AN ANSWER.

SO PLEASE PUT MORRIS AVENUE BACK ON THE LIST TO BE PAVED.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, CAN WE HAVE STAFF LOOK INTO THAT? YES, SIR. WE REALLY NEED TO.

I NOTED IT. WE'LL CHECK IT OUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. MISS RUTH CORNWALL.

CORNWALL. THANK YOU.

MR.. IF YOU CAN BRING THAT LECTERN DOWN, THERE'S A BUTTON THAT COULD.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

RUTH CALDWELL 935 DOUGLAS STREET, DIRECTOR OF BREVARD CITIZENS DEFENDING FREEDOM.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF AND CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

SEPTEMBER IS FOUNDER'S MONTH AND CONSTITUTION DAY, WEEK AND DAY AND WEEK AND DAY ARE HELD WITHIN THAT AS WELL.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I REALLY SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU GET BETTER WITH ALL YOUR HEALTH ISSUES.

HOWEVER, IT IS A CONCERN THAT YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO THIS DIOCESE ARE NOT BEING FULFILLED.

IT IS TOO.

YOU ARE. YOU TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION OF FLORIDA AND THE CHARTER OF PALM BAY.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S NEGLIGENCE TO STEP DOWN FROM THE COUNCIL IS A COMPLETE SLAP IN THE FACE TO THOSE DOCUMENTS.

SUPPOSEDLY YOU TOOK THAT OATH.

YOU TOOK THAT OATH MANY TIMES AS A VETERAN AND YOU TOOK IT AGAIN FOR THIS COUNCIL.

THIS REFUSAL AND NEGLIGENT AND IMMORAL INACTION IS A DISSERVICE TO THE PALM BAY CITIZENS AND A VIOLATION OF THE PALM BAY CHARTER, AS I HAVE READ IT MANY TIMES.

MY SUGGESTION FOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS TO STEP DOWN AND FOCUS ON HIS HEALTH.

IF NOT, COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS NOT DOING A VERY GOOD SERVICE AND NOT REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ON A SECOND NOTE.

IT SHOULD BE THE COUNCIL ITSELF THAT ENFORCE THE CHARTER AND REMOVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER FROM THE COUNCIL DUE TO THE HEALTH CARE ISSUES AND WHAT IT STATES IN THE CHARTER AND THE DISSOLUTION OF THE ADVISORY BOARD IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW.

PALM BAY CITIZENS ARE NOT BEING SERVED AND THAT THE CITIZENS VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD AND OR LISTENED TO.

THIS IS MANY, MANY TIMES I'VE STOOD UP HERE AND SAID, YOU CANNOT SILENCE US.

WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT, AND THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. THIS CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OKAY. SO I WANTED TO POLICE ONE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE.

SO JUST ALLOW ME TO TO TOUCH ON THIS.

THE TAX NOTIFICATIONS WENT OUT AT 7.595.

THAT WOULD HAVE EXCEEDED THE 3% CAP IN ORDER FOR THE COUNCIL TO EXCEED THE 3% CAP.

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WE DON'T HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, BUT THE COUNCIL HERE DECIDED TO SET IT AT THE 7.595 SOLELY BECAUSE IF THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A CATASTROPHE BETWEEN THE TIMES WE SET THE RULES, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN YESTERDAY, AND IF SOMETHING WOULD HAVE HAPPENED, WE WERE BOUND BY THE 3% CAP AT THAT TIME.

SO THIS COUNCIL VOTED THIS YESTERDAY TO SET THE TAX RATE AT THE 7.0017, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, REDUCING IT.

BUT THERE WAS NEVER AN INTENTION OF THIS COUNCIL TO GO ABOVE THE 3% CAP.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TO CONCLUDE WITH MY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THAT NOTE, BECAUSE MANY COMMENTS WERE MADE.

DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH IN? THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS (Part 1 of 2)]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUESTS THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

THIS ONE IS FOR THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

I BELIEVE THAT THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EVENT ARE HERE.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO BRING THEM UP FIRST TO TALK ABOUT THE EVENTS, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

OUTSTANDING. OH, THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY A VIDEO.

I SEE. THEY GOT ONE QUEUED UP.

YOU CAN WATCH THE VIDEO.

THERE'S NO SOUND. OH, THERE WE GO.

IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME.

LISTEN, I JUST WANT TO FIRST SAY THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, NOT JUST TO YOU ALL AS OUR LEADERS, BUT ALSO TO ALL OF PALM BAY AND ABROAD, EVEN ALL THE WAY UP TO KISSIMMEE NORTH.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR SOUTH TO VERO AND SO FORTH AND SO ON TO THE GREATEST CHRISTMAS PARTY IN ALL OF BREVARD COUNTY, THE SPACE COAST.

LISTEN, WE STARTED PROBABLY ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO IN THE BACKYARD OF OUR CHURCH AND MAKING OUR OWN LITTLE GAMES AND THROWING CANDY OUT.

AND NOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE CHURCHES ALL JOIN TOGETHER AND DOZENS AND DOZENS AND MORE, DOZENS OF BUSINESSMEN AND BUSINESS WOMEN WHO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE BREVARD IANS FOR BEING AT THEIR PLACES.

AND SO THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN THIS GREAT FESTIVITY CALLED THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

SHOULD YOU APPROVE IT TODAY? I WOULD THANK YOU EVER SO MUCH BECAUSE TODAY IS MY 49TH ANNIVERSARY AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT CHRISTMAS PRESENT IN SEPTEMBER IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT TODAY.

BUT NONETHELESS, WE WANT TO SAY, PLEASE CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE ARE SERVING PEOPLE AND IT'S F R E FREE.

NOW, WE WANT TO ALSO THANK OF PREVIOUS MAYOR CAPOTE FOR INVITING US BACK TO PALM BAY AS WE ARE PALM BAY CHURCH.

BUT WHEN EVER SINCE REVEREND ROBERT MEDINA, WHO NOW IS THE MAYOR, TOOK OVER, THIS THING HAS EXPLODED TO WHERE OVER 25,000 PEOPLE COME.

DO I SOUND EXCITED? I'M EXCITED BECAUSE IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME AND I JUST WANT TO PASS IT OVER HERE TO ONE OF OUR GREAT HELPERS.

PRAISE THE LORD WHO HELPS LEAD THIS FORWARD.

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WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR 15 YEARS.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HEART AND A COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOVE TO MINISTER TO THE GOSPEL, NOT JUST THE GOSPEL, BUT GIVING, JUST GIVING OF THE DAY, GIVING AWAY OF THE DAY. AND A LOT OF THE BUSINESSES AND COMPANIES THAT COME TOGETHER, THEY ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO GIVE AWAY CHRISTMAS TO FAMILIES THAT CANNOT RECEIVE OR THAT JUST CANNOT GIVE THEIR FAMILIES CHRISTMAS GIFTS.

WE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE SAY TO US AT THE TIME OF THE EVENT OR EVEN AFTERWARDS THAT THIS WAS THE ONLY CHRISTMAS THAT THEY COULD GIVE TO THEIR CHILDREN.

SO BY OTHER COMPANIES, BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY OTHER BUSINESSES COMING TOGETHER TO PARTNER TOGETHER TO HELP MAKE THIS A COMPLETELY FREE EVENT TO THE COMMUNITY, WE'RE ABLE TO BLESS FAMILIES AND WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE CHRISTMAS TO FAMILIES THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IT FOR THEMSELVES.

AMEN. WHAT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT? WHEN YOU SAY FREE, WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S FREE? SO EVERY SINGLE THING IS 100% FREE.

YOU ONLY HAVE TO HAVE GAS IN YOUR CAR TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE THE FIELD.

BUT EVERYTHING COTTON CANDY, HOT DOGS, WATERS, BOUNCE HOUSES, PONY RIDES.

WE GOT PETTING ZOO THIS YEAR.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE CARS.

WE HAVE BOUNCE HOUSES, A ROCK WALL, FACE PAINTING, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT GIFTS, GIFTS AND GIFTS AND GIFTS AND GIFTS AND GIFTS AND BICYCLES TO GIVE AWAY BICYCLES WE GIVE AWAY.

YES. LAST YEAR WE HAD, WHAT WAS IT, 140 BIKES? YEAH, 140 BIKES THAT WE GAVE GAVE AWAY LAST YEAR.

OH, 140 BIKES THAT WERE GIVEN AWAY THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND KIDS, JUST THE EXCITEMENT ON THEIR FACE AND BEING ABLE TO WALK OFF THE FIELD WITH THE BICYCLE AND A HELMET WAS WONDERFUL.

WE ALSO WANT TO THANK THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR PREVIOUS SUPPORT AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT HAVE BEEN SO HELPFUL TO MAKING IT POSSIBLE.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE PREVIOUS SUPPORT.

WE DO. WE DO ALSO INVITE THE CURRENT NEW BUSINESSES HERE IN PALM BAY TO CONSIDER SUPPORTING THIS THIS EVENT AND GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE AFTER ALL, IT'S F R E FREE.

YOU GOT IT. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MAYOR. MR. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THIS IS A GREAT FUNCTION.

WE'RE NOT DISPUTING THAT ONE LITTLE BIT.

I ALWAYS HAVE A HARD TIME, THOUGH, WHEN YOU WANT TO USE THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY FOR A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION OR A PRIVATE FUNCTION.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS.

I'M NOT FAULTING THEM AT ALL, BUT I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO MY TRYING TO BALANCE THE CITY'S BUDGET.

$6.5 THOUSAND OR.

OUT OF THAT $6000 OR $6.5 THOUSAND, $2,355 OF THAT COMES FOR THE WAGES FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE AND PARKS AND PARKS REPRESENTATIVES.

THAT'S AN ACTUAL BUDGET.

OUT OF THAT, WE HAVE TO BUDGET IN TO PAY FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO DO THIS.

AND SO I HAVE TO STAY TRUE AND CHALLENGE THE FACT.

THAT BEING SAID, CAN ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT WE CURRENTLY TAKE OUT OF OUR BUDGET FOR RECREATION? I'M NOT GOING TO SAY PARKS AND FACILITIES.

THOSE ARE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS.

I'M GOING TO SAY RECREATION.

WHAT IS THE BUDGET AMOUNT THAT WE ARE CHARGING THE TAXPAYERS FOR FOR RECREATION LINE ITEM ONLY? I COULDN'T FIND THAT. I KNOW THERE'S A BREAKDOWN ON IT, BUT I COULDN'T FIND IT.

I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, BUT I COULDN'T FIND THAT WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE I'M GOING TO USE THAT IN CALCULATIONS AS I PROCEED ON THE NEXT TWO ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT TO BE TALLIED IN TO WHAT THE TOTAL EXPENSE OF THESE PARTIES THAT YOU SPONSOR TO THE OFF THE TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE WE JUST GOT THROUGH GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET.

YOU DID LOWER IT TO THE 3% CAP, BUT THESE ARE MECHANISMS THAT COULD HELP YOU TAKE IT BELOW THE 3% CAP BY NOT USING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PAY FOR

[01:00:06]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER ITEM.

MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION? UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GET MORE DETAIL FROM MR. BATTEN, SO I'LL HAVE ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS TALK TO HIM.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT LINE ITEMS HE'S LOOKING FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER TO GIVE HIM A NUMBER, BUT WE CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO YIELD THE TIME AT THIS PROPER TIME TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

AS USUAL, I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS VOTE.

GENTLEMAN, BECAUSE I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, BUT I AM ALSO A MINISTER THAT HAS OVERSEEN THIS FOR FOR MANY YEARS AND I CONTINUE TO SERVE MY CHURCH.

SO. MADAM.

MADAM ATTORNEY.

YES, MAYOR, FOR GIVE BACKGROUND TO OTHERS IN 2021, THE MAYOR, ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR, CONTACTED THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS REGARDING WHETHER THE MAYOR VOTING FOR A CO-SPONSORSHIP FOR THE ANNUAL CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA HOSTED BY THE HOUSE CHURCH OF PALM BAY CONSTITUTED A VOTING CONFLICT.

SINCE HE SERVES AS AN UNPAID MINISTER FOR THE HOUSE.

VOTING CONFLICTS ARE GOVERNED BY SECTION 286 .01 12 FLORIDA STATUTE.

WE WERE ESSENTIALLY THE STATUTE PROVIDES THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TO VOTE UNLESS THERE IS A CONFLICT OR A POSSIBLE CONFLICT.

AND RELEVANT STATUTE.

HERE IS ONE 1213 WHICH IS CONFLICT, CONFLICT IN EMPLOYMENT OR CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIPS.

ALTHOUGH IT IS UNPAID, THERE IS A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP, INCLUDES MUTUAL AGREEMENTS, ARRANGEMENTS OR AGREEMENTS, AND THE LACK OF COMPENSATION IS NOT CONTROLLING.

CONSEQUENTLY, WE WERE ADVISED THAT THE MAYOR SHOULD DISCLOSE THE RELATIONSHIP WHICH HE HAS DONE, ABSTAINED FROM VOTING AND FILED VOTING FORM EIGHT B AS REQUIRED BY LAW. IN UPHOLDING THE CODE OF ETHICS.

THE MAYOR HAS HEEDED THIS ADVICE AND CONTINUES TO ABSTAIN FROM VOTING.

THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'LL.

GENTLEMEN, I'LL NEED A MOTION, BUT I WILL NOT BE.

I'LL BE ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE.

LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT I'VE ABSTAINED FROM THE VOTE.

SO MOVE SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I, I DO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS AS MR. BATTEN. I'VE SHARED IT BECAUSE THESE ARE TAX DOLLARS WE'RE USING FOR NONPROFIT EVENTS.

SO I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE NONPROFITS APPLYING FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES.

AND THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.

BUT I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHERS THAT WE WILL SEE.

MAYOR SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH AS WELL AS YOU, MAYOR, A BIG FAN OF THIS EVENT.

I TRULY BELIEVE, AS YOU ALWAYS ALLUDE TO, THERE IS YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE.

YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE.

WHAT WOULD IT COST TO BRING SUCH VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY? IT'S A IT'S A GREAT EVENT, THE MESSAGE AND THE DRAW TO OUR COMMUNITY.

25,000. I DON'T KNOW OF AN EVENT THAT EVEN COME CLOSE.

AND THE QUALITY WHAT IT WHAT IT MEANS TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON THAT $12,000.

I'M TOTALLY OKAY WITH WITH US SUPPORTING THIS EVENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THIS IS A WONDERFUL EVENT AND IT SHOWS THE GOODNESS AND AND GREAT CHRISTMAS SPIRIT THAT THIS WORLD NEEDS.

AND LIKE PASTOR DELGADO SAID, IT'S FREE, FREE, FREE.

AND EVERYBODY IN PALM BAY CAN COME TO IT.

IT'S NO LIMITATIONS WHO CANNOT COME AND IT'S FREE.

HISTORY. AND AND EVERY RESIDENT SHOWS WHERE THEIR TAX DOLLARS IS GOING TO SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO UPLIFT THEIR COMMUNITY AND PEOPLE'S SPIRITS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY.

IT'S SAD, BUT DURING THE HOLIDAYS, YOU JUST WE JUST RECOGNIZED NATIONAL SUICIDE MONTH.

AND DURING THE HOLIDAYS, SUICIDE GOES UP, ROBBERY GOES UP.

THIS BRINGING A POSITIVE ATMOSPHERE AND MINDSET TO THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY.

I SUPPORT IT. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT IT.

YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON CHRISTMAS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

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SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR? SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES THREE ZERO WITH THE MAYOR.

ABSTAIN. ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MISS SHERMAN. NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. YES. THIS IS THE SECOND CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST YOU'LL CONSIDER TONIGHT.

THIS IS FOR THE VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL THAT'S HELD AT FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRESENT ABOUT THE ITEM.

OR IN CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

PASTOR CAN AND PASTOR BETSY DELGADO.

OUTSTANDING JOB. 49 YEARS.

YOU GUYS MUST HAVE GOTTEN MARRIED AT 15 OR 10.

YOU GUYS LOOK SO YOUNG.

CARRY ON, SIR. YES, I'M GOING TO HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE BEAVER RIVER FESTIVAL.

THAT'S A GREAT EVENT WHERE WE CELEBRATE HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

AND ALSO THE FESTIVAL IS A FUNDRAISER TO HELP THE RIVER HISPANIC CENTER, WHICH IS AN ORGANIZATION FROM HERE, FROM PALM BAY THAT'S BEEN HERE ACTUALLY THIS YEAR IS GOING TO BE OUR 10TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER.

AND IT'S A PUBLIC CHARITY.

IT'S NOT A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.

IT IS A PUBLIC CHARITY THAT HELPS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN AREAS OF EDUCATION, HEALTH, FAMILY ISSUES, IMMIGRATION, ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT.

STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT'S PICKING UP REALLY LOUD AND IT'S BECOMING INCOHERENT.

OKAY. YEAH, GO AHEAD.

SO THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT HELPS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES IN AREAS OF EDUCATION, HEALTH, FAMILY ISSUES, IMMIGRATION AND ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT.

THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER, WE HAVE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE INTEGRATION PROGRAM, WHICH IS A PROGRAM WHERE WE HELP PEOPLE THAT WENT TO SCHOOL IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

WE RAISE THE LEVEL OF ENGLISH SO THEY CAN WORK IN THE UNITED STATES IN WHAT THEY WENT TO SCHOOL FOR.

YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE DOCTORS, ENGINEERS WORKING, CLEANING DISHES OR WORKING IN AREAS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, WORKING IN CLINICS AND HOSPITALS.

WE ALSO HAVE THE DE LA CRUZ VOLUNTEER CLINIC.

THAT'S A FREE CLINIC WHERE WE HELP PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE MEDICAL INSURANCE, YOU CAN GO TO THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEN FOR FREE.

RIGHT. AND THAT HELPS OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE PREVENT INDIVIDUALS FROM GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOMS WHEN THEY CAN GO TO THE CLINICS AND WE TAKE CARE OF THEM.

SO IT'S A GREAT EVENT.

IT'S A LOT OF FUN, A LOT OF MUSIC, A LOT OF FOOD.

BUT WE ALSO SUPPORTING A GREAT CAUSE.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THE DIFFERENT SHELTERS, WITH THE DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY, HELPING ABUSED WOMEN, WOMEN THAT BRING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES, ENSLAVE THEM, ABUSED THEM.

AT THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER, WE WORK WITH ALL COMMUNITY.

WE HELP TO HELP THOSE VICTIMS. SO THIS IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION AND THIS IS A GREAT EVENT AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE DOING.

THIS IS A AN ORGANIZATION FROM PALM BAY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS 20 2023 BEAVER RIVER FESTIVAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PUBLIC SPEAKERS. MR. BILL BARTON. THANK YOU.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, A LINE ITEM CORRECTION AND THE PREVIOUS COMMENTS ABOUT THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA. I SAID 6000.

IT WAS ACTUALLY 11,000 WITH 5000 OF THAT GOING TOWARDS WAGES.

NOW ON TO THE VIVA BREVARD FESTIVAL.

THEIR ACTUAL WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS $6.5 THOUSAND OF THAT $6.5 THOUSAND, $2,355 OF THAT COMES FROM WAGES.

THAT WOULD BE THE POLICE AND FIRE.

AND THEY SAY, WELL, THEY'RE WORKING ANYHOW.

WELL, WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY STRESSED AND THEY HAVE PEOPLE ON PATROL.

SO WE EITHER HAVE TO TAKE THEM OFF OF PATROL TO FILL THESE POSITIONS OR WE HAVE TO PAY THEM OVERTIME, WHICH IS PART OF WHICH COMES OUT OF THAT DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I TRY TO ADDRESS.

I'M NOT SAYING THESE FUNCTIONS ARE GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO BE RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

THE LINE ITEM THAT COMES OUT OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET THAT'S WRITTEN, IT WAS JUST PASSED, VOTED ON FOR THE FIRST VOTE LAST NIGHT, LINE ITEM IN THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PRESENT ME

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TONIGHT WAS $6.2 MILLION COMES OUT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET FOR RECREATION.

THAT IS THE LINE ITEM FOR RECREATION.

OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FOCUS IN ON, ON WHAT IT COMES OUT OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET, TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY BE RESPONSIBLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

THEY ARE GOOD FUNCTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A GREAT TIME AND IF THEY'RE ALSO ASSISTING IN AID TO PEOPLE, THAT'S ALSO A GREAT THING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY BE RESPONSIBLE WITH MY TAX DOLLAR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

THIS CONCLUDES OKAY, COUNCIL, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY COMMENTS? NO, NO COMMENTS.

OKAY. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE THIRD AND FINAL CO SPONSORSHIP OF THE NIGHT.

THIS IS FROM A REQUEST FROM THE WEST INDIAN CARIBBEAN CULTURE AND SPORTS INC FOR FAMILY FUN DAYS EVENTS THAT WILL BE HELD ON THE FIRST SUNDAY OF EVERY MONTH IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRESENT.

OKAY. YES.

GOOD NIGHT TO MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

THIS IS ALFIE.

ALFIE AGUIRRE FROM DOBRIK'S 4371 DIXIE HIGHWAY IN NORTHEAST BOMBAY.

WE ARE HERE THE SECOND TIME TO APPLY FOR THIS SPONSORSHIP, AND TO ME IT'S A VERY GOOD EVENT FOR THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I MUST SAY THEY HAVE A ELIGIBILITY THAT SAYS YOU MUST BE FREE AND OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

YOU MUST BE SERVING FREE AND PUBLICLY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

THE SECOND ITEM WAS IT MUST BE PLANNED AND CONDUCTED BY A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE.

THAT'S THE ELIGIBILITY RIGHT HERE.

AND THEN THE OTHER SECTION THAT SAYS THE THE SPONSOR GOAL IS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELL-BEING OF SOME OR ALL OUR RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE FIVE ITEMS ON THIS LISTING, AND THE WIC ACTUALLY FITS THREE OF THE ITEMS. THE OTHER ONE IS ADVANCED CITY COMMITMENT AND PARADE BEING MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY PROMOTE CULTURE AND ATHLETICALLY, ATHLETICALLY AWARENESS WITHIN THE CITY.

SO THESE THESE ARE LIKE THREE ITEMS OUT OF FIVE THAT UNDER THE WHATEVER THE SPONSOR GOAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, COME INTO THAT.

SO I THINK WE HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB AS A COMMUNITY EVENT, TRYING TO PROMOTE THE CULTURE OF OUR DIVERSITY IN OUR CITY.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO KEEP THIS THING GOING.

AND LET'S HOPE ONE DAY WE ARE GOING TO BE AS BIG AS CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, BECAUSE THAT'S MY GOAL TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DO THIS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP AND ASSISTANCE IN GIVING US THE PRIVILEGE AND THE GIFT OF THIS GREAT GIFT, AND WE'LL BE THERE TO PROMOTE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

ONE MORE TIME GREAT FUNCTIONS.

HE WAS CONDUCTING THESE GATHERINGS FOR THE WEST INDIAN CARIBBEAN CULTURAL ORGANIZATION LONG BEFORE HE STARTED ASKING FOR ASSISTANCE FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND HE WAS DOING IT AT THE BEACH, PAID FOR OUT OF HIS OWN POCKET.

SO I'M NOT FAULTING WHAT THE FUNCTION IS ONE MORE TIME.

I'M JUST CHALLENGING TRYING TO KEEP THE CITY RESPONSIBLE ON OUR BUDGET.

AND WHEN YOU BENEFIT FEW, THAT'S PART OF IT.

THEY'RE ONLY REQUESTING $2,745.

OUT OF THAT $0 IS GOING TO BE SPENT ON WAGES.

SO NONE THEY AREN'T ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE SERVICES.

THAT'S STILL BEING SAID.

IT'S EVERY MONTH AND I THOUGHT WE HAD IN OUR ORDINANCE SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU ONLY ONCE A YEAR WHERE YOU WERE ALLOWED TO ASK OR QUALIFY FOR IT.

I'M NOT SURE ON HOW THAT WORKS.

I WASN'T SURE. BUT EITHER WAY, THE FUNCTION IS GOOD AND I LIKE HOW YOU WORKED OUT WHERE IT WAS GOING TO BE.

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I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP US RESPONSIBLE ON THE BUDGET.

SO LIKE I SAID, THE $2.6 MILLION LINE ITEM THAT COMES OUT OF CITY OUT OF OUT OF OUR BUDGET FOR RECREATION, THEY'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO AUTOMATICALLY JUST GIVE IN THIS THREE CASES FOR JUST TONIGHT'S MEETING, $20,000 OUT OF THAT TAX DOLLAR MONEY YOU JUST ASKED FOR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER? NO, SIR. OKAY.

COUNCIL, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION? JUST IF MISS MISS SHERMAN WANTED TO SPEAK TO MR. BATTEN'S QUESTION REGARDING.

BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO.

YEAH. YEAH. SO OUR, OUR POLICY ALLOWS FOR A SINGLE EVENT OR A SERIES OF EVENTS, AND THAT IS WHERE MR. GARY'S PROJECT OR PROGRAM FALLS UNDER THE SERIES OF EVENTS CATEGORY.

THAT'S IT. I'M GOOD.

MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR, IF I MAY.

I THINK THE SOMETHING MUST BE SAID ABOUT THIS EVENT.

THIS PARTICULAR EVENT IS DIFFERENT.

AND MR. BATTEN MENTIONED IT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT TAKING ANY.

OF OUR RESOURCES IN TERMS OF OF, YOU KNOW, MANPOWER.

THIS IS JUST A FACILITY.

ACCESS TO ALL FACILITIES.

IF THEY'RE NOT BEING USED BY THIS ORGANIZATION, THEY STAYED EMPTY.

WHY DO WE HAVE THIS LOGIC? YOU SEE THE LOGIC TO THIS? THIS FACILITY IS THERE.

THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TAXPAYERS DOLLAR FOR THE ENJOYMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A VIBRANT COMMUNITY THAT CONTRIBUTES A LOT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO THIS IS, TO ME, I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE DO AS A COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE LOOK TO MOVE TO PALM BAY FOR THOSE VERY REASON BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT TO OFFER.

AND PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER IS THAT FIND A WAY TO TO MAKE IT INCREASE, ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY, OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND I'M ALL FOR IT.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. I STAND BY THE WORDS OF THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. HI.

THAT'S FOUR ZERO.

PASSES. FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NUMBER ONE. MS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS ]

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU, JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

AND WE HAVE WITH US JAMES DICKS, WHO IS THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT HERE AS WELL TONIGHT.

THIS IS A SECOND READING.

IT'S JUST BEEN A LITTLE WHILE SINCE IT'S COME BACK TO YOU, SO I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

AND THEN WE DID HAVE THREE CONDITIONS THAT WERE NEWLY ADDED FOR THE SECOND READING THAT WE WORKED WITH STAFF ON MODIFYING THE LANGUAGE OF THEM. SO WE JUST WANTED TO SEE IF SOMEONE ON STAFF COULD EXPLAIN THOSE THREE RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGES TO THE WORDING.

BUT AS I SAID, THIS IS SECOND READING AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY FOR MONTHS WITH THE CITY STAFF.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER SURROUNDING DEVELOPERS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH REALLY THE WHOLE REGION TO NOT ONLY EXTEND UTILITIES BUT EXTEND THE PARKWAY, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON SPECIFIC SITES FOR WATER TANKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, GETTING DOWN TO THE NITTY GRITTY DETAILS.

SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS SITE IS 1435 ACRES, SO IT'S VERY BIG, BIG PROJECT, A BIG UNDERTAKING, VERY EXCITING. IT INCLUDES A 30 ACRE SCHOOL BOARD SITE.

IT HAS FIRE STATION AND POLICE STATION.

IT'S GOT A TOWN CENTER.

AND THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST REALLY MAJOR MILESTONE STEP FOR THE PROJECT.

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WE'LL BE BACK BEFORE YOU WITH OUR PRELIMINARY FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT ULTIMATELY.

SO YOU'LL SEE A LOT MORE FROM US AND A LOT MORE DETAIL FROM US COMING DOWN IN THE FUTURE HERE.

SOON I'LL THE SITE DEVELOPMENT MASTER PLAN ALSO HAS A LOT OF INTERCONNECTIVITY TO THE NORTH OF US, OUR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ACRES OF EELS PROPERTY THAT WILL STAY IN PERPETUITY AND CONSERVATION TO THE SOUTH OF US AND THE SAINT SEBASTIAN PRESERVES THOUSANDS OF ACRES AND WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THEM AND WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEM AND HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY.

WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS COUNCIL ASKED FOR MANY TIMES OVER.

WE'RE DOING MUCH LARGER LOTS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A PUBLIC TRAILHEAD THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR HORSEBACK RIDERS AS WELL.

THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW IS PROPOSING HAS OVER 90 ACRES OF GREEN SPACE AND RECREATION.

IT'S OVER 90 ACRES.

SO IT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL COMMITMENT AND IMPROVEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

I HEARD ONE OF THE SPEAKERS EARLIER TONIGHT ASKING ABOUT A TOWN CENTER OR A PLACE TO GO AT DOWNTOWN RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT IS CREATING AS PART OF IT.

WITH RESPECT TO YOUR VOTE TONIGHT, THOUGH, WE'RE ASKING FOR JUST A SECOND READING ON THE FUTURE LAND USE.

THERE'S EIGHT CRITERIA, AS YOU SAW PREVIOUSLY WHEN YOU VOTED FOR APPROVAL.

STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND THEN IF WE COULD JUST CLEAR UP THOSE THREE COMMENTS THAT WE ASKED FOR THE LANGUAGE TO BE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THE RECREATION AREA THAT YOU MENTIONED, THOSE ACRES, ANY CONSIDERATION FOR LIKE BASEBALL AND FOOTBALL FIELDS? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE? WELL, WE'RE TALKING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM FOR THOSE TYPES OF FIELDS OR OTHER RECREATIONS OR MORE.

WE DO HAVE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF BIG GOOD SIZED PARKS THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

WE DO HAVE SOME PRIVATE AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE WITHIN SOME OF THE GATED SUBDIVISIONS, THE TRAILHEAD THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO YEAH, ALL OF THAT'S BEING COLLABORATED.

WE HAVE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH LINEAR PARKS AND TRAILS AS WELL THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.

I'M JUST SAYING BASEBALL FIELDS, BASEBALL REALLY, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE FAMILIES OUT THERE AS WELL, I'M JUST SAYING.

AND THEN AND WE GET PICKLEBALL A LOT.

WE BASEBALL, FOOTBALL, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, BIG SPORTS FANS.

BUT ANOTHER QUESTION IS THE FAITH BASED COMMUNITY IN THAT MASTER PLAN? AND I KNOW THAT I SHARED THIS PREVIOUSLY WHEN IT COMES TO MASTER PLANS AND THE FAITH BASED COMPONENT TO IT, WE COULD ALL LEARN FROM VIEIRA FROM THAT COMPANY HOW THEY DID THE MASTER PLAN.

YOU HAD SYNAGOGUES, YOU HAD OTHER FAITH BASED, FAITH BASED CHURCHES, DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS.

SO IS THAT BEING CONSIDERED? SO GOOD.

OKAY. YES, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY BEEN CONSIDERED.

WE'VE HEARD OF THAT FROM COUNCIL MANY TIMES OVER, AND THAT'S PART OF IT.

WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH THAT HIGHER LEVEL OF DETAIL NEXT.

BUT YES, THAT'S BEEN ALL PART OF IT.

BUT WE HAVEN'T PICKED OUT WHAT SPORTS FIELDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT EITHER YET.

OKAY. AND JUST CARRY ON, MR. MAYOR, YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SPORTS FIELD.

BASEBALL. SO MY SON GRADUATED LAST YEAR FROM UCF, BUT WE SPENT THE EIGHT YEARS PRIOR TO THAT IN TRAVEL BALL.

SO PRETTY MUCH EVERY PROJECT THAT WE DO INCLUDES MULTI-PURPOSE SPORTS FIELDS AND WE USUALLY WILL WAIT TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL WHERE THEY MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THAT AS WELL.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, BASEBALL, LACROSSE, MULTI-PURPOSE.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME BIG PARKS THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON MORE OF A GATHERING PLACE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, NOT JUST THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS FAR AS AND BUILT, THE CHIEF WILL PROBABLY COME UP AND SPEAK NEXT.

BUT TO COMBAT THAT MESSAGE, PROBABLY 3 OR 4 MONTHS AGO, AND HE PROBABLY DOESN'T KNOW THIS, BUT WE TOOK SOME OF HIS WORDS TO HEART.

AND BECAUSE YOU CAN ACTUALLY RIDE EQUESTRIAN AND THOSE DIFFERENT TRAILHEADS.

WE CREATED THE BILL BATTEN TRAIL PARK TRAILHEAD.

WOW. BUT IT GETS BETTER THAN THAT.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT WILL BE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE 40 FOOT TRAILERS FOR EQUESTRIAN THAT YOU CAN PULL IN AND OUT.

SO DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK.

BUT WE ACTUALLY DID TAKE THAT BECAUSE THERE IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY THERE IF YOU'RE A EQUESTRIAN ENTHUSIAST AND WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BOTH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

WELL, THOSE ARE GREAT COMMENTS.

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DID YOU WANT TO? COME ON.

WHAT AN HONOR OF MASTER CHIEF BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

AND AS YOU KNOW, I DO GO THROUGH MY AGENDA PACKETS IN DETAIL.

WHEN I SAW WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, I SAW THAT TRAIL FIRST.

I SAW TRAIL HEAD SITTING UP ON THE ON THE PLAN.

AND THEN I FOLLOWED IT UP OFF OF MICCO ROAD AND I FOLLOWED IT IN UNDER PARENTHESES.

IT SAID BILL BATTEN, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID MISSPELL MY NAME.

THAT'S OKAY. I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THE OFFER.

AND THAT MEANT SOMEBODY WAS LISTENING.

BUT THERE WAS MORE TO IT THAN JUST THE TRAIL HEAD.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY MADE IT AND I'LL LIKE TO SPEAK TO THEM AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THE ACCESSING INTO THE EEL'S LAND AND THEN INTO THE SAINT SEBASTIAN PRESERVE, BECAUSE I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THAT'S ALL GOING TO WORK, BECAUSE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE EMERALD LAKES AND ARE ALSO TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME OBJECTIVE.

SO I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT.

BUT THE TRAIL HEAD AND THE STUFF GOING AROUND THAT, THAT WAS GREAT.

AND THE TURNAROUND, LIKE YOU SAID, IS A DRIVE THROUGH TRAILER.

IF YOU HAVE HORSES, PEOPLE THAT KNOW THAT IT'S HARD BACK AND AROUND, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE ABILITY.

AND THEY DESIGNED THIS SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DRIVE IN, DRIVE YOUR TRAILER OUT AND DRIVE STRAIGHT OUT, OFFLOAD YOUR HORSES AND GET ONTO THE TRAIL HEAD.

AND THEN IT GOES AROUND THE FACILITY.

BEAUTIFUL JOB.

I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THEM ON THAT.

BUT IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN THE TRAIL HEAD ALONG WITH IT BECAUSE I ALWAYS CHALLENGE ABOUT RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

ALONG WITH THAT, THEY'VE ALSO DESIGNATED PROPERTY THAT'S FROM 1 TO 3 ACRE SITES FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS THAT COINCIDE WITH IT ONE MORE TIME. BRAVO, ZULU.

JOB WELL DONE, YOU GUYS.

RIGHT. AND AND THEN I ALSO SAW THAT THEY HAD A DEDICATED SITE IN THE RECREATION SITES OF A STABLE.

SO FOR THOSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE THE HORSE, THEY MIGHT HAVE THE CAPABILITIES OF EVEN THE RESIDENTS BOARDING HORSES THERE.

THEY WENT, BY MY STANDARD, A STEP ABOVE AND BEYOND FOR WHAT PEOPLE WERE REQUESTING TO HAVE SOME KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT.

AND I PROMISE YOU, THE EXECUTIVES THAT ARE TRYING TO COME INTO THIS AREA, THESE ARE SOME OF THE HIGH END THINGS THAT THEY WERE GOING TO NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THEM WANT TO STAY IN PALM BAY.

I WENT TO THE DENTIST LAST WEEK TALKING WITH MY DENTIST.

THEY WERE TALKING AND I SAID, AND SHE SAYS, I'M LOOKING FOR A PLACE LIKE THIS.

I SAID, PAY ATTENTION TO NIGHT CITY COUNCIL.

A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS GIVING THEIR PROPOSAL.

THEY'VE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE ACRE SITES, EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S LOOKING FOR IN THIS AREA.

AND IT'S COMING. AND THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT, BUT THEY'RE VERY HAPPY TO SEE IT.

AND SO AM I, RIGHT? AND I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT.

EVENTUALLY I TRIED CALLING, CALLING THEM, AND I DIDN'T GET ANY CALL BACK, BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE HOW WE WERE GETTING IN FROM THE TRAILHEAD.

TRAILHEADS GONE ON BOTH THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH SIDE INTO THESE PRESERVES BECAUSE THEY'RE GOOD JOB.

THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. GREAT.

AND THANK YOU, GUYS.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

THAT'S IT. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. WHAT WAS REFERENCED WERE SOME MINOR CHANGES THAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO THE STAFF REPORT AND SOME OF THE CONDITIONS.

I'LL HAVE JESSE ANDERSON COME UP AND WHEN YOU'RE READY AND COVER THAT WITH YOU.

DR. J. GOOD EVENING.

JESSIE ANDERSON, ACTING GROWTH MANAGER.

DIRECTOR. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, PATRICIA, DID YOU HAVE SPECIFIC WORDING ALREADY FOR THE TWO TRAFFICS WRITTEN DOWN OR SHALL WE GO FROM WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY? NO, WHAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.

THAT'S THE LANGUAGE.

DO I NEED TO READ EXACTLY TO THEM OR CAN I PARAPHRASE IT? IS MY QUESTION, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY, BEING THAT THEY'RE GOING, THIS IS THE LAST TIME I READ IT.

EXACTLY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CLERKS IS GOING TO INCORPORATE INTO THIS ORDINANCE THAT WILL BE SIGNED.

JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. HOLD ON ONE SECOND FOR ME.

SO JUST IN CONTEXT OF WHAT THE CHANGES WERE THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, ONE OF THE LEVELS OF SERVICE ANALYSIS THAT CAME FORWARD WAS FOR TRAFFIC IMPACTS. IT DOES REQUIRE FOUR LANING, THE MICCO ROAD AREA AS WELL AS THE BABCOCK ROAD AREA.

HOWEVER, THAT IS AS A LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO PART OF THE DEO, THAT IS THE STATE DEPARTMENT PART OF THEIR ANALYSIS.

WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SERVICE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FULFILL THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT AND ITS FRUITION IN ITS TOTALITY AS WELL.

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WE ARE EXPECTING, OF COURSE, IN THE FUTURE TO HAVE THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, BUT BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ESTABLISHED YET, WE DO NOT GET TO COUNT THAT IN DURING OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE CURRENTLY CAN OPERATE ON.

SO WITH THAT, THE CONDITION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AMENDED SLIGHTLY IN STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF, IS THAT IT'S GOING TO SAY AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE READING, THE WORDING ONE SECOND, BUT IT'S GOING TO STATE THAT IT'S IN CAVEAT TO THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY COMING TO FRUITION.

THAT WAY THERE CAN BE ANOTHER TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS THAT YOU'LL SEE LATER ON IF THAT WERE TO COME TO FRUITION.

THAT WILL SHOW THE DIFFERENT IMPACTS OF THE SITE AREA RATHER THAN ALL OF THAT TRAFFIC GOING ONLY DOWN MICCO INTO THE BABCOCK AREA AND GOING NORTH.

AND THEN THE OTHER SLIGHT CHANGE.

SO THAT'S TWO OF THEM BECAUSE THERE'S A TWO PART TO THAT PORTION.

THE OTHER CHANGE THAT THEY ARE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT WOULD BE FOR THE WAY THE MANNER IN WHICH THE PARKING PARKS ARE PHRASED.

IT SAYS THAT ALL PARKS ARE TO BE TO BE OPEN, SORRY, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ACCESSIBILITY.

AND THE CAVEAT TO THAT IS GOING TO BE THE PARKS SPECIFICALLY, NOT THE AMENITY CENTERS THAT WOULD BE WITHINSIDE THE SUBDIVISIONS, PARTICULARLY AS THOSE ARE GOING TO BE MORE OF THE HOA AND SUBDIVISION ORIENTED AMENITIES RATHER THAN THE HOLISTIC AMENITIES FOR THE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN.

SO THAT'S JUST A CAVEAT TO THAT.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE SPECIFIC PARKS, WHICH AGAIN FULFILLS OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR PARKS FOR THAT OVERALL ANALYSIS FOR D.O..

ALL RIGHT. SO CURRENTLY THE TRANSPORTATION LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS REQUIREMENTS SAY MICCO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE PROJECT SITE TO BABCOCK STREET WILL NEED TO BE IMPROVED TO FOUR LANES, PENDING IMPROVEMENTS TO OTHER RIGHTS OF WAYS PROVIDING DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROJECT SITE.

IF IMPROVEMENTS TO OTHER RIGHTS OF WAYS.

PROVIDING DIRECT DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROJECT SITE OCCUR PRIOR TO A DEVELOPMENT THAT A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO DETERMINE ANY REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS SPECIFIC TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT APPLICATION.

SIMILARLY, FOR NUMBER TWO, BABCOCK STREET IMPROVEMENTS, IT WOULD BE FOR MICCO ROAD TO SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY WILL NEED TO BE IMPROVED TO FOUR LANES, PENDING IMPROVEMENTS TO OTHER RIGHTS OF WAY, PROVIDING DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROJECT SITE.

IF IMPROVEMENTS TO OTHER RIGHTS OF WAY PROVIDING DIRECT ACCESS TO THE PROJECT SITE OCCUR PRIOR TO DEVELOPMENT.

ATTRACTING IMPACT ANALYSIS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO DETERMINE ANY REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS SPECIFIC TO THIS DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING DISTRICT APPLICATION PROCESS. THANK YOU.

AND THEN DO WE NEED TO GO OVER A CHANGE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARKS ONE, PATRICIA, IN YOUR OPINION? BECAUSE AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY INCLUDE.

SO JUST FOR DISTINGUISHMENT, WE DO NOT INCLUDE THE AMENITY CENTER WITHINSIDE OF OUR DEFINITION OF PARKS BECAUSE THEY ARE AMENITIES THEMSELVES.

FOR THOSE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENTS, THE SUB DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THIS ACTUAL PLAN THEMSELVES, WHEREAS THE PARK PARCELS THAT WILL BE SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY SEPARATED FROM THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL BE IDENTIFIED AS PARKS AS PART OF THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THAT PLACE TYPE WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENTIATION.

OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE MENTIONED IT ALREADY.

DO YOU NEED ADDITIONAL DETAIL TO MENTION THAT? NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS CLARIFYING.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. WEISS. YES, THAT WAS THE LANGUAGE CLARIFICATION.

WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTOOD.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

WORKING AGAIN WITH STAFF SO WELL.

AND AFTER HEARING ABOUT MR. BATTEN'S DAUGHTER, WE THOUGHT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE NAME.

I'LL MAKE SURE I GET THE SPELLING RIGHT ON THIS DAUGHTER'S NAME.

AND YOU DO HAVE A VOICEMAIL FOR ME IN YOUR PHONE.

OTHER THAN THAT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.

SO, YEAH, TO TO RESPOND TO MR. CHIEF'S QUESTION REGARDING HOW THAT ALL IS GOING TO WORK OUT THE ACCESS.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THE CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH VERY CLOSELY, THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE SAINT SEBASTIAN PRESERVE ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO INTERCONNECT THE PROPERTIES. THERE'S ACTUALLY A CANAL WITH A LITTLE SLICE OF THEIR LAND ON THAT SIDE.

SO THEY'VE ALREADY COORDINATED THAT AND WORKED THROUGH THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE WE'RE ALSO THE ENGINEER FOR EMERALD LAKES, WHICH MR. BATTEN MENTIONED.

WE HAVE MET WITH THE EELS AT THEIR OFFICE AND HAVE ALREADY BEEN COORDINATING THE INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH THEM AND THEY ARE OPEN TO THAT.

THAT PROJECT ALSO PROVIDED LANDS THAT THE EELS DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY OWNS AS WELL.

SO YEAH, WE'VE HAD ALL THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS ALREADY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO MAYOR AND NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.

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ASKING FOR A MOTION.

MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2020 3-05 TO INCLUDE STAFF'S COMMENTS.

SECOND. I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO ORDINANCE.

AS YOU WERE. SORRY, MAYOR.

ORDINANCE 20 2368.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

VACATE AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF SIX BY SIX FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT FIVE BLOCK 674 MALABAR UNIT 15, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15, PAGE 75.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT.

DAVID DANIELS 1200 SEAGULL STREET SOUTHEAST.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

COUNCIL. UM, AGAIN, I'M HERE TO SECOND TIME TO ASK TO VACATE FOUR FOOT OF THE SIX FOOT EASEMENT BESIDE MY DRIVEWAY SO IT CAN BE EXTENDED TO GAIN ACCESS TO MY BACK GATE WITH ALL THE BUILDING GOING UP.

IT'S JUST I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO MY GATE FROM THE OTHER SIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAR THAT LOT AND BUILD THERE.

AND IT'S JUST I TOLD YOU LAST MONTH, I'M ON A OUTSIDE CORNER, SO MY FRONTAGE IS ONLY 59FT.

MY DRIVEWAY ONLY GIVES ME A LITTLE LEDGE IF I CAN MAKE THE DRIVEWAY WIDER.

MY, MY MY TRAILER GOING INTO MY BACKYARD WON'T WON'T SAG AND RUN INTO THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, DRIFTING INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S SIDE.

IT JUST MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER TO ACCESS MY MY BACKYARD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES. FOUR ZERO.

MADAM SMITH. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

ANY PERSON WHO HAS TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNCIL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY, AND EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.

QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

ORDINANCE 20 2376.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING A ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM IU INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT TO RC RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD AND THE VICINITY WEST OF GREEN ACRE DRIVE, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR.

VICE MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CITY STAFF. MY NAME IS JOHN NEWTON.

I'M THE PROJECT DEVELOPER AND PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS.

THIS NEW IDEA THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS LONG TERM INSTITUTIONAL SITE THAT'S ON MALABAR ROAD.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE STARTING IN JUNE.

WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING OUT OF COUNCIL WITH THE LOCAL CITIZENS ABOUT THE PROPERTY BEING REZONED FROM INSTITUTIONAL TO RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL USE, AND

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THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO BRING A THRIFTY SPECIALTY PRODUCE GROCERY STORE HERE AND IN IN A MULTI TENANT SCENARIO WHERE THERE'D BE PROBABLY 2 TO 3 OTHER TENANTS IN THE SPACE TOTALING 8000FT² FOR THOSE FOLKS.

WE WE GATHERED A LIST OF A LOT OF PUBLIC IDEAS AND COMMENTS FROM THE 500, THE 500 FOOT RADIUS AROUND IT.

WE'VE ADDRESSED JUST ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE IN OUR IN OUR DESIGN.

AND AND IN THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'VE HAD TWO MORE MEETINGS.

WE HAD THE WE ACTUALLY HAD THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ON AUGUST 2ND WHERE THERE WAS A UNANIMOUS APPROVAL BY THE BOARD.

AND THEN OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THIS REZONING WAS AUGUST 17TH.

ALSO HAD SOME COMMENTS AT THAT MEETING.

THEY WERE ADDRESSED AND THEN THAT VOTE WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY.

UM, WE HAVE IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

I DON'T THINK WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST MEETING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE TWO DRAWINGS THERE, THE ONE ON THE LEFT, ALL HATCHED IN YELLOW, IS THE ENTIRE 6.4, THREE ACRES.

BUT THERE'S A LEG AT THE BOTTOM OF IT THAT CONNECTS TO THE CUL DE SAC AND THEN SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH AND AND EAST OF THE PROPERTY.

IN OUR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, WE AGREED TO NOT USE THAT AS AN ACCESS POINT SO THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORS DOWN THERE.

WE DON'T WANT TRUCK TRAFFIC OR ANY CONFUSING TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO GET TO A COMMERCIAL SITE.

ANY WAY WE LOOK AT IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP THEM WITH THEIR DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THAT END OF THAT STREET SAY THEY HAVE A TERRIBLE DRAINAGE SITUATION GOING ON AND IF THAT LITTLE PIECE COULD BE SOMEHOW DOGLEGGED INTO THE OVERALL STORMWATER THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, MAYBE THAT HELPS THEM AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT AS WE GO FORWARD.

BUT. I THINK WE'RE TURNING SOMETHING WE HEAR IN THESE PRIOR MEETINGS ABOUT WE HAVE THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS AND THEY WANT TO BRING THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE CITY NEEDS.

THE GROCERY STORE SERVED BY MY CLIENT, THIRSTY SPECIALTY PRODUCE AND MEATS BRINGS A LOT OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE AND AT GREAT PRICES.

AND THAT'S THEIR CLAIM TO FAME.

AND WHY AFTER 17 YEARS IN BUSINESS, THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

THEY'RE BRINGING A SECOND ONE TO PALM BAY, AND THIS WOULD BE THE HOME OF THAT SECOND ONE.

SO WE SEEK YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT AND THE FINAL APPROVAL OF THE REZONING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MAYOR, I HAVE NO QUESTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO, DEPUTY MAYOR.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO, SIR. OKAY.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

HI. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

APPRECIATE IT. WE ARE NOW GOING TO TAKE A TWO MINUTE, FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND I'LL HOLD YOU TO IT.

FIVE MINUTES.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

MS.. SMITH ORDNANCE 20 2377, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. A CHANGE IN THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM IU INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT TO CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF PALM BAY ROAD AND SKIPPERS WAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER WITH LACEY, LYONS, ROSENKER AND ROCKLEDGE.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF 1611 MERIDIAN LLC.

WITH ME ARE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES, NURI DORA AND WILLIAM FROMETA.

IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THIS IS THE ONE WE HAD.

THE POWERPOINT IS THE OLD HOLIDAY INN.

THE OLD CRYSTAL PALACE AT 1881, PALM BAY ROAD IS GOING TO BE REFURBISHED FOR TRUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

PHASE ONE WILL BE A RENOVATION OF 130 UNIT STUDIOS, AND PHASE TWO WILL BE 170 UNITS OF ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS. WE DO HAVE THE POWERPOINT.

I BELIEVE THE MAYOR HAD THE APPLICANT COMMIT TO THE FACADE AND WE CAN PULL IT UP AGAIN IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT.

YES, MA'AM. I ENJOY SEEING THAT.

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YES. SO, AGAIN, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A TRUE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, 80% AMI OR LESS.

AND IT IS INTENDED TO BE UP AND RUNNING IN FIRST PHASE WITHIN APPROXIMATELY A YEAR, IF NOT SOONER.

AND SO WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF SOMETHING CAME UP SINCE WE WERE HERE LAST TIME.

BUT IF NOT, THIS IS THE SECOND READING WE'VE ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON SECOND READING.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

NO, SIR. OKAY.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON OR.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SINGING BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR? I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, MAYOR, I'VE NEVER BEEN SO EXCITED ABOUT A PROJECT BECAUSE IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THIS IS A DISCUSSION WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST, SAY, THREE YEARS BEING SUCH A BIG CHALLENGE.

WE'VE SEEN NOT ONLY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, THIS IS A NATIONAL NATIONAL CHALLENGE THAT MOST MUNICIPALITIES AND STATES TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

IN FACT, YOU KNOW, THE WE HAVE THE NEW BILL LOCAL, THE STATE LEVEL.

SO THERE'S EFFORT THAT THE STATE ARE PUTTING FORTH TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

SO THIS PROJECT TRULY THIS IS A REAL PRODUCT.

THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK BACK OF SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING WE GAVE AWAY PART OF THE ARPA MONEY AND THEN THINKING BACK, I THINK WE COULD HAVE DONE THINGS A BIT DIFFERENTLY.

SO OBVIOUSLY I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I WILL ADD I WILL ADD I'D LOVE TO.

I DON'T THINK I THINK THE PROJECTS THAT WERE SELECTED, THEY WELL AND FORTHRIGHT.

WE ARE MAKING AN EFFORT IN THAT AT THAT TIME THIS THIS PROJECT, THE WAY IT IS TODAY, WAS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE SEEN. BUT I WANT I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN ADD AS PART OF THAT MOTION THAT THIS BE SIMILAR TO THIS RENDITION OF WHAT WE SEE, SOMETHING SIMILAR OR MAYBE, MAYBE DR.

JAY CAN HELP ME ON HOW WE SHOULD WORD IT IT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, CAN I HAVE DR.

JAY COME BACK UP? MA'AM, SOMETHING SIMILAR, BECAUSE I I'M JUST VISUALIZING THIS ON PALM BAY ROAD TODAY, AND THIS WOULD BE AN ADDED SUCH SUCH A BEAUTIFICATION OF OF OUR CITY.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY PUT ON PLACE FOR THIS ZONING WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED.

OKAY. CAN WE ADD THAT TO OUR MOTION? OKAY. IT'S NOT ALREADY INCLUDED.

ALL RIGHT. UM, WAIT.

HE NEEDS TO PULL A SECOND.

NO, HE MADE THE FIRST.

OH, I MADE THIS. OH, I'M USED TO.

I PULL MY SECOND.

OKAY, SO.

WE. I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED.

THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO ASK MADAM SMITH.

WELL, YOU ALREADY PULLED THE SECOND, SO NOW IT HAS TO BE.

YEAH. YES, BUT DID WE ALREADY HAD WE ALREADY CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING? OH, YES, WE DID.

YES, WE DID.

YES, WE DID.

I DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YES, MA'AM. SO, AS YOU WERE.

WELL, I STILL DON'T HAVE A MOTION, THOUGH.

I SECOND THE MOTION.

BECAUSE IT'S NOT. HOW CAN I ADD THAT ON THERE? IT'S TOO SMITH.

ONE MORE QUESTION TO CONSIDER.

THIS IS FINAL.

FINAL READING. YES.

SO WOULD THAT I MEAN, EVEN IF WE WERE, YOU KNOW, GRANTING THE MAYOR'S WISH, WOULD WOULD THAT WORK? THE CONCERN, CERTAINLY.

MS.. ROZANKA IS THERE.

THEY HAVE AGREED TO IT, BUT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY ADDING TESTIMONY AFTER WE'VE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH DOESN'T REALLY GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THIS NEW LANGUAGE THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING.

THEY MAY BE PERFECTLY FINE WITH IT, BUT WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO IF WE WANT TO DO IT, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR US.

I KNOW EVERYBODY'S WITHDRAWN THE MOTION, BUT TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ALLOW THEM TO AT LEAST RESPOND BEFORE WE PROCEED, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE AND RECOMMENDATION.

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IS THAT CORRECT? OR CAN I JUST OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW? REOPEN IT.

YOU CAN REOPEN. AND I THINK WE DIDN'T.

WE ALREADY HAVE EVERYBODY REMOVED.

NOT YET. ALL RIGHT.

I REMOVE. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO MOTION.

I'M GOING TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO AT THIS TIME, MR. ZANKA, YOU KNOW MY COMMENTS.

I'VE MADE THE COMMENTS AT OUR VERY FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

RIGHT. VERY FIRST.

AND I MADE THAT.

AND AND THE OWNER WAS REALLY AMENDABLE TO THAT.

AND THE OWNER IS FINE WITH YOUR AMENDMENT.

WE'RE FINE WITH THAT AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.

OKAY. SO PROCEDURALLY, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO PHRASE THIS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT YEAH.

I BELIEVE HE SAYS IT WAS MOVED TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL RENDERINGS PROVIDED TO THE CITY WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT'S BUILT.

SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

ALL RIGHT. OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR INDULGENCE IN THIS.

THANK YOU, SIR. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I'LL NEED A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2023 777 TO INCLUDE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? COUNCILMAN FOSTER, KNOWN AT THE TIME.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 20 2378 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM IU INSTITUTIONAL USE DISTRICT TO RC RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MALABAR ROAD AND GREENACRE DRIVE, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

COME ON UP, SIR. GOOD EVENING, ALL.

LAWRENCE KRAMER, 164, 98, NORTHEAST 26TH AVENUE, MIAMI, FLORIDA.

I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF MALABAR AND GREEN ACRE.

SIMPLE REQUEST FROM AN IU TO AN RC SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND EITHER DEVELOP OR SELL THE PROPERTY FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL AND THE COMMUNITY AND YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, SIR.

MR. BILL BATTEN FIVE.

I'M SORRY. THAT'S AN ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY. NO.

SPEAKER CARDS.

OKAY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THANK YOU, ALL. ORDINANCE 20 2379 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTERS.

GENERAL PROVISIONS AND SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS AND MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO PARKING WITHIN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THAT'S MISS SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS FINAL READING ON THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING TO OUR PARKING ORDINANCE.

AS WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU AT THE LAST MEETING, WE HAVE REMOVED REFERENCES TO THE TRAILERS BEING PARKED IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

SO FOR NOW, THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE ON THAT TOPIC.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, COUNCILOR.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

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SMITH. ORDNANCE 2023 DASH 80 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 184 SUBDIVISIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR SIMPLE LOT SPLITS LOT RECONFIGURATION PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES. CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS CREATES A NEW SECTION IN OUR CODE THAT WILL PROVIDE CRITERIA FOR HANDLING OF LOT SPLITS AND LOT COMBINATIONS.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU CAME UP WITH THIS.

ANY ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MADAM SMITH ORDINANCE 20 2381 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING BREWPUBS OR OTHER DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS AS PERMITTED USES IN H C HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS FINAL READING AS WELL.

I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

ESSENTIALLY DOES ADD BREWPUBS AND OTHER DRINKING ESTABLISHMENTS AS A PERMITTED USE IN HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. KELLY HYVÖNEN, PLANNING CONSULTANT.

WE ARE HERE TODAY TO HAVE THE SECOND READING OF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW BREWPUBS IN THIS DISTRICT SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A UNIQUE BREWPUB CONCEPT.

THE IMPORTANT THING THAT WE WANT TO BRING UP IS, YOU KNOW, TODAY SOMEONE CAN HAVE AN EATING AND DRINKING ESTABLISHMENT IN THIS ZONING CODE, MEANING THEY CAN CONSUME ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. THIS CODE CHANGE WILL ALLOW FOR THE PRODUCTION OF THOSE BEVERAGES.

HOW COOL WOULD IT BE TO SAY THIS WAS MADE IN PALM BAY? THIS IS GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUSINESS TO BE CONSTRUCTED AND GROW AND PRODUCE A PRODUCT THAT IS MADE IN PALM BAY WITHIN KEEPING WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY. SO WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THIS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M. ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR COMMENTS, MA'AM? YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, SIR? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. ANY ANYONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM? WOULD THEY WANT TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. OKAY.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? DEPUTY MAYOR? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. NAY PASSES 3 TO 1.

CONGRATULATIONS. ITEM NUMBER NINE ORDINANCE 20 2382.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE 17.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER ONE 8178 SIGNS BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR INTERCHANGE SIGNS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

MATT ASHLEY 1900.

SOUTH CITY, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

I THINK MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I JUST I AGREE WITH THE AMENDMENT THAT YOU ALL MADE IN THE FIRST ONE FROM 1500 TO 1000.

I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SO THE HIGHWAY BEAUTIFICATION ACT, YOU HAVE TO BE 1000FT, SO AND STATE STATUTE.

SO YOU CAN'T BE LESS THAN 1000FT.

SO THAT'S WHY WHEN I BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION THAT Y'ALL HAD A 500 FOOT, YOU'RE KIND OF IN VIOLATION OF THE STATE STATUTE AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY BEAUTIFICATION ACT.

SO I'M FINE WITH 1000FT.

AND THEN I ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM?

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SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

CARRY ON. YEAH, I HAVE NO COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM.

DID YOU VOTE? COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YES. I SAID I COPY THAT.

ALL RIGHT. PASSES 3 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.

MADAM SMITH ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 83 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 184.

SUBDIVISIONS BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATING TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF MODEL HOMES PRIOR TO THE SUBDIVISION, RECEIVING A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MR. SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS FINAL READING.

BASICALLY, THIS WILL CREATE A SECTION IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION FOR A SUBDIVISION BEFORE A MODEL HOME WILL BE ISSUED.

A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION, SO MOVE.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER 11 MS..

SMITH. ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 84 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 17. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 170 CONSTRUCTION CODES AND REGULATIONS SUBCHAPTERS.

BUILDING CODE AND FIRE PROTECTION AND ALARM SYSTEMS. REPEALING THE SUBCHAPTERS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR.. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS ITEM AND THE COMPANION ONE AFTER IT ARE JUST RELATED TO REMOVING EXISTING ORDINANCES OUT OF ONE SECTION OF THE BUILDING OF THE THE CODE OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT PORTION OF THE CODE AND MOVING THEM INTO A SEPARATE SECTION.

SO THEY WILL COME DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL WHEN MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVE. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 12 ORDINANCE 20 2385 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE GENERAL REGULATIONS BY CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 96 TO BE TITLED FLORIDA BUILDING CODE PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK.

MS.. SHERMAN THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THIS IS THE COMPANION ORDINANCE.

THIS CREATES THE NEW CHAPTER 96 FOR BUILDING CODE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 13.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING MS..

SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS ITEM WILL BE PRESENTED BY NANCY BUNT, OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S APPROVED FY 2021, 22 AND 2223 ANNUAL ACTION PLANS FOR CDBG COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, WE HAD SOME ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM PROGRAM, INCOME FUNDS FROM SALE OF HOMES THAT CAME INTO THE CITY.

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SO WE WERE LOOKING AT ADDING A TOTAL BUDGET OF $671,625.73, AND THEN ALSO MODIFYING THE ACTION PLAN TO INCLUDE ANY INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS AND STREETLIGHTS IN LOW INCOME TARGET AREAS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THERE IS A LIST THAT PUBLIC WORKS PRIORITIZED OF THE TOP 11.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN ENGINEERING FOR CHILDREN SOUTHEAST FROM SAN FILIPPO DRIVE TO CARSON DRIVE, AND THEN WE'LL BE WORKING ON THEM AS WE AS FUNDING IS ALONG. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? NO QUESTION.

MAYOR. I DIDN'T MENTION IT EARLIER, MISS NANCY, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR STAFF'S INGENUITY ON THIS, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THE NORTHEAST AREA.

WE HEAR IT OFTEN WHEN I'M OUT AND ABOUT.

I KNOW THE MAYOR HEARS IT AND DEPUTY MAYOR AND JUST OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, SOMETIMES THE NORTHEAST AREA FEELS NEGLECTED AND FORGOTTEN.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THIS, EVERYBODY.

AND I'M EXCITED TO TO VOTE FOR IT.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, I WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST SAID.

I'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL IN TERMS OF ADDING THOSE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS AND STREETLIGHTS.

SO THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT, YOU KNOW, INITIATIVE, GETTING THESE THINGS MOVING FORWARD.

AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU GUYS PUT IN INITIATIVE AND AND, YOU KNOW, A GOOD START.

A GOOD START. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THAT FEELING NEGLECTED THAT THAT AREA OF OUR OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE SHOULD START HONING IN ON HOW WE COULD IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AT LARGE, TOO.

RIGHT. BUT WHEN YOU SAY THAT NEGLECT, I THINK OF THE EVANS CENTER AS WELL AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU TOUCHED YOU TOUCHED ON ON SOMETHING THAT I THINK AS COUNCIL WE WE'RE WE'RE FEELING THOSE EFFECTS FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS, FROM THOSE RESIDENTS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TAG ON TO WHAT YOU SAID, MISS NANCY.

OUTSTANDING JOB, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ALL FUNDED BY BLOCK GRANT.

YES. NO GENERAL FUNDS. YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. MAN.

RUTH CAULFIELD 935 DELAWARE STREET.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREET LAMPS FOR PLACES IN THE CITY.

WELL, MY STREET HASN'T HAD ANY SINCE IT'S 25 OR 30 YEARS, SO AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON THAT STREET TO PUT ANY SIDEWALKS.

NOW THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH AND PUT ALL THE ELECTRIC UNDERGROUND AND EVERYTHING, THAT WON'T HAPPEN, I'M PRETTY SURE.

BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME STREET LAMPS IF POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE RUNNING IN AND NOW RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT OF PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT ADD ANY MORE TRAFFIC TO MALABAR ROAD.

THERE IS ALREADY BOTTLENECKS FROM EMERSON DRIVE ALL THE WAY TO I 95.

WHEN THAT SEVERN BRIDGE OPENED, THEY HAD A BOTTLENECK AND TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP PAST EMERSON JUST THIS PAST SATURDAY.

SO IF THAT IS A RESULT OF WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING AT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS, NOTHING'S HAPPENING THERE, NOT ONE THING.

SO ALL OF THAT IS NULL AND VOID.

THAT'S GOING TO DUMP TRAFFIC ON MALABAR ROAD AND ANYTHING THAT ADDS TRAFFIC TO MALABAR ROAD.

MALABAR CAN'T BE EXPANDED.

THERE'S NO ROOM FOR IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED THAT, BUT I'M RIGHT THERE.

SO SOMEBODY NEEDS TO STOP APPROVING ADDING MORE TRAFFIC TO MALABAR ROAD ANYWHERE ON MALABAR AT ALL.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ALL THE WAY ON.

IT'S TWO LANE ALL THE WAY TO ROUTE ONE AND IT'S TWO LANE JUST PAST WINN-DIXIE.

SO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM.

STOP DOING THAT.

STOP DOING ALL OF THAT.

EXPANDING ONTO MALABAR ROAD.

OTHERWISE YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE BOTTLENECKS.

ALL THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE LATE TO SCHOOL, TOO.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SCHOOL BOARD INVOLVED WITH ALL THE LATE SCHOOL BUSSES THAT ARE NOT GETTING THERE BECAUSE OF IT.

SO AND PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT ADD ANY MORE TRAFFIC TO MALABAR ROAD.

THANK YOU. REGARDING THE LIGHTS, I THINK THE INITIATIVE IS WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

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ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

[CONSENT AGENDA]

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED.

I WAS GOING. OKAY, I'LL.

SEVEN, TEN AND 12.

OKAY, HOLD ON.

INCLUDED MY MOTION ITEMS. SEVEN. COPY THAT.

TEN AND 12.

OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS COUNCIL WISHES TO PULL? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANYTHING? NO, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. CARRY ON, COUNCILMAN.

OUR DEPUTY MAYOR LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SEVEN, TEN AND 12.

SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HI. HI. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

MISS SMITH RESOLUTION 20 2325 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF PALM BAY, SECTION 457 DEFERRED COMPENSATION PLAN ADMINISTERED BY MISSION SQUARE RETIREMENT, FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGERS ASSOCIATION RETIREMENT CORPORATION, BY INCLUDING AN EMPLOYEE OPTIONAL POST TAX RETIREMENT OPTION IN THE FORM OF A 457 ROTH PLAN TO THE BENEFITS OFFERED OFFERING FOR ALL ELIGIBLE, REGULAR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 90 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF THREE PAGES AND INCORPORATING IT IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN, RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35.

ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE, DOES ANYBODY HAPPEN TO REMEMBER WHAT WE JUST PAID? BECAUSE IT'S JUST A SEEMS TO ME LIKE JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE BOUGHT THE FIRST VACUUM TRUCK, WHAT THAT COST US.

I UNDERSTAND IT MIGHT NOT BE BIG ENOUGH AND ACCOMPLISH THE OBJECTIVES.

I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE NOW GOING TO BE RUNNING AS I READ THE PACKET, WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING TWO VACUUM TRUCKS.

NOW THAT MEANS DOUBLE THE.

PERSONNEL REQUIREMENT ALSO.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THE ANNUAL COST OF OPERATING THIS VACUUM TRUCK, BUT THEN THE COST OF THE ADDED STAFF.

IF WE'RE RUNNING BOTH TRUCKS NOW IN THE IN THIS FUNCTION.

SO I'D LIKE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

THE SECOND ITEM WAS WHEN I WAS READING THE PACKET, IT HAD THE BREAKDOWN OF A 2020 4F1 50 FOR $60,000. THAT'S AN F-150 PICKUP TRUCK FOR $60,000.

YOU COULD BUY TWO RANGERS PICKUP TRUCKS FOR FOR THAT SAME PRICE.

YOU'D HAVE TWO VEHICLES, RIGHT? EITHER THAT OR YOU'RE HAVING HEATED, HEATED SEATS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THIS F 150.

RIGHT. SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, THE OTHER ITEM WITH THAT ONE IS IT DID NOT GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THE BID WAS TO WARRANT THE COST OF $60,000 FOR AN F 150 IN YOUR PACKET.

JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN CLEAR IT UP FOR ME.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS REGARDING THIS ITEM? THIS IS IT, MADAM.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. I THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THERE WAS A TYPO IN THE AGENDA MEMO OF THE ITEM AND IT SAID IT WAS A FORD F 150, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS A FORD F-250, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TRUCK.

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SO THAT WAS IN THERE INCORRECTLY.

I BELIEVE SOME OF THE ATTACHMENTS MIGHT HAVE SHOWED THAT ACCURATELY.

I DO NOT OFFHAND KNOW THE AGE OF THE THE CURRENT TRUCK.

I'M LOOKING AT STAFF TO SEE IF ANYBODY KNOWS RIGHT NOW, EVEN A BALLPARK NUMBER OF YEARS, MAYBE FOUR YEARS, IT LOOKS LIKE.

SO THAT'S THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU, YOU KNOW.

OH, THERE'S SO FIVE YEARS, BRANDT.

NO, FIVE. I'M GETTING FIVE YEARS.

OKAY. HE WOULD BE THE THE ONE TO KNOW.

HE'S. HE'S THE ONE TO KNOW.

SO. SO THAT'S THE AGE QUESTION.

THE STAFFING QUESTION.

WE WE HAVE AN EXISTING VACANT TWO POSITION THAT WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE FOR RIGHT NOW.

AND WE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER WHO IS ABLE TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY.

BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY LOOKING AT A VERY BROAD RECONFIGURATION OF STAFFING IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE CITY.

WE KNOW THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO BETTER WITH REGARD TO MAINTENANCE.

AND SO UNDER VALENTINO'S LEADERSHIP, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW TO EVALUATE THAT AND BRING.

THERE WILL BE THINGS COMING TO COUNCIL IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR THAT WILL BE REQUEST TO CHANGE THE WAY WE'RE DOING STAFFING IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.

THIS IS ONE OF THEM.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT BASED ON THE DEMANDS OF THE CITY TO MAINTAIN OUR BROAD AND WIDE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, THE FACT THAT WE'VE ADDED BAFFLE BOXES AND WE CONTINUE TO ADD BAFFLE BOXES AS AN EXAMPLE, THE NEED FOR THE TRUCK IS SIGNIFICANT.

AND IF WE DON'T START TO BUILD OUR FLEET THE WAY WE NEED TO BUILD IT, WE WILL BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND EVEN MORE MONEY ON HIRING OTHER COMPANIES TO DO THE WORK. SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING THE BAFFLE BOXES, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL HAS MADE IT A MISSION TO INCLUDE THESE BEAUTIFUL BOXES AS WE PARTNER IN IMPROVING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

WHAT GOOD IS IT IF WE HAVE THESE BAFFLE BOXES AND WE CAN'T VACUUM THOSE NUTRIENTS BEFORE THEY GET INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON? AND AND PART OF THAT, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IN INVESTING INTO OUR WATER QUALITY AND AND ASSISTING WITH THAT WITH THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. SO I'M I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THIS ITEM IS BEFORE US.

I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE SEND A MESSAGE WHEN WE GIVE STAFF THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION.

WE GAVE THE STAFF THE MISSION OF, HEY, WE'RE GOING WITH BAFFLE BOXES.

WE HAVE TO BACK IT UP WITH SAYING, HERE'S THE PROPER EQUIPMENT.

SO I WAS GUNG HO, CONTEMPLATED PULLING THIS.

SO THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN, FOR PULLING IT FOR ME AS WELL.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE. I'LL SECOND IT.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

IS THIS A COMPLETE REBUILD? AND IF SO, WHERE WAS THE MISCALCULATION MADE IN THE CAPACITY OF THIS BEFORE YOU ALLOWED THE EXPANSION OF THE ADDITIONAL HOUSING GOING IN? MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'D ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE CHRIS ANSWER THE COMPLETE REBUILD PART OF THE QUESTION AND I'LL JUST LET YOU GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW.

SO THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE REBUILD OF THE LIFT STATIONS.

THERE ARE FOUR EXISTING LIFT STATIONS.

THE DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH SITE PLAN REVIEW, THEY WERE PUT ON NOTICE THAT THEIR DEVELOPMENT WAS GOING TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY IN THAT WHOLE AREA.

IT IMPACTED ALL THOSE LIFT STATIONS.

SO THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GIVING THEM A CREDIT FOR IS OUR PORTION OF THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

SHOULD WE HAVE TO REPLACE IT ALL OURSELVES.

AND ALL FOUR OF THOSE LIFT STATIONS, THEY'RE TEN YEARS PLUS IN AGE AND MOST OF THE EQUIPMENT IS DUE FOR REPLACEMENT ANYWAY.

SO IT'S A GOOD PROJECT FOR US TO GET IT PAID FOR.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. SORRY, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12.

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I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHAT THE EMERGENCY WAS THAT MANDATED THE REPLACEMENT OF $29,000 WORTH OF CAMERAS. WHAT WAS THE WHAT HAPPENED TO MAKE US HAVE TO HAVE THAT EMERGENCY EXPENDITURE? AND IF IT WAS JUST OLD AGE, WELL, THAT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I'LL GIVE IT TO JULIET TO HANDLE.

SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE'S READY.

CARRY ON. MISS MOSCONI.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS GOING TO FALL UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTE THAT MAKES OUR SECURITY SYSTEM EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE.

SO I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT THE EMERGENCY WAS.

JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS IN A VERY SECURE AREA OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT MUST HAVE CAMERAS OPERATIONAL.

SO WE HAD TO THESE CAMERAS HAVE ACTUALLY ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED AND THEY'RE BEING INSTALLED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

IT'S CLASSIFIED, SIR.

I NEED A MOTION SECOND.

SO MOVED. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, MISS SHERMAN.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]

NEXT STEPS.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

JULIETTE MOSCONI, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

IN APRIL, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE CAMPGROUND AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK, WHICH WAS BROUGHT FORWARD INITIALLY WITH A $1.7 MILLION GRANT FROM THE BREVARD COUNTY TOURISM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

THE CONVERSATION WAS LENGTHY AND WE NEEDED TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL DATA FOR YOU ALL.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU WERE LOOKING TO SEE HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO ADD A SECOND ENTRANCE TO THIS PARK OFF OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A BRIDGE.

WE WORKED WITH OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEER KIMLEY-HORN AND ASKED FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BRIDGE COSTS CONCRETE, STEEL AND SPAN, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A PREFABRICATED BRIDGE.

AND THEY ALSO DID TWO DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS, ALL OF WHICH HAVE THREE LANES TO ACCOMMODATE FOR FUTURE TURN LANES.

ONE CONFIGURATION HAS THE TWO PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ACTUALLY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.

ANOTHER CONFIGURATION HAS A VEHICULAR BRIDGE AND THEN AN ADJACENT SEPARATE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.

SO A TOTAL OF SIX OPTIONS RANGING IN PRICE FROM 2 MILLION TO $4 MILLION.

STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE GO WITH A CONCRETE STRUCTURE.

AND FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS ANALYSIS, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT YOU BUDGET $2.2 MILLION FOR A BRIDGE.

SO MOVING ON, WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS HOW MANY CAMP SITES COULD YOU DO BASED ON THE REVENUE VALUES THAT WE HAVE AND ALWAYS INCLUDING A BRIDGE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE NOT PRESENTING TO YOU THIS EVENING ANY OPTIONS THAT DO NOT INCLUDE A BRIDGE.

WE LOOKED AT A TOTAL OF THREE CAMPGROUND CONFIGURATIONS.

ONE WAS 138 SITES, WHICH IS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO YOU ALL BACK IN 2021 WAS 82 SITES, WHICH OUR CONSULTANT IS RECOMMENDING WOULD BE YOUR OPERATIONAL BREAK EVEN FOR STAFFING.

ONLY ONE IS 45 SITES, WHICH IS THE NUMBER THAT CONSULTANT CAME UP WITH WHEN WE GAVE THEM A BUDGET OF $3.2 MILLION, WHICH IS HOW MUCH WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PROJECT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO NOTE ABOUT ALL THE SITES IS ALL THESE SITES WOULD BE DESIGNED AS PULL THROUGH SITES AS OPPOSED TO BACK IN SITES.

PULL THROUGH SITES MEAN EXACTLY WHAT YOU IMAGINE WHEN A RV OR A VEHICLE WITH A POP UP CAMPER ATTACHED TO IT COMES THROUGH.

THEY ACTUALLY PULL IN TO THE LOT AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO MANIPULATE AND BACK THEIR RIG INTO THE SITE.

IT'S MUCH MORE APPEALING TO CAMPERS.

AND ACCORDING TO OUR CONSULTANTS, THERE'S A VERY, VERY FEW PULL THROUGH SITES IN BREVARD COUNTY.

SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR APPEAL AS A CAMPGROUND.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO NOTE IS THAT IN ALL OPTIONS THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS EVENING THAT INCLUDE CAMP SITES, YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS A LINE

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IT WAS NOT DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT OF RECREATIONAL VEHICLES OR THE TURNING RADIUS OF THOSE VEHICLES.

IN ADDITION, SINCE WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING MALABAR ROAD WIDENING TO FOUR LANES, WE'RE INCREASING THAT BUDGET AMOUNT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR A FUTURE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE FROM THE CITY TOWARDS SIGNALIZATION FOR THE EXIT OUT OF THAT PARK.

YOU HAVE VARYING FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE PROJECT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.

I MENTIONED THE GRANT BACK IN 2020.

YOU ALSO APPROVED IMPACT FEE FUNDS INTO THE PROJECT FROM BOTH 32907 AND 32908.

THAT'S PARKS, IMPACT FEE FUNDS AND A TRANSFER FROM UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.

SO CURRENTLY YOUR BUDGET IS 3.2 MILLION TO USE NICE ROUND FIGURES.

WE HAVEN'T EXPENDED TOO MUCH FROM THE PROJECT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW TO DATE.

JUST SOME LAND CLEARING, SOME TREE REMOVAL UNDER $50,000.

WE HAVE A FEW OTHER CONSULTANT INVOICES THAT WE COULD BACK CHARGE TO THE GRANT, BUT I PURPOSELY HAVE ACTUALLY USED GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO PAY FOR THOSE THUS FAR BECAUSE IF WE TRIP $50,000 AND YOU DECIDE NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CAMPGROUND PROJECT, THERE IS A CLAWBACK PROVISION WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY BACK. SO THAT'S WHY I'VE LEFT IT AT $49,000 IN REIMBURSEMENT AND DIRECTED STAFF TO USE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR THE CONSULTANT SERVICES WE'VE USED MOST RECENTLY SINCE APRIL. I WON'T REITERATE FOR YOU WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN APRIL IN TERMS OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT AND WHERE WE ARE IN DESIGN.

BUT I WILL SAY THAT KIMLEY-HORN WAS SELECTED FOR THEIR CAMPGROUND EXPERIENCE.

HOWEVER, THE RFQ THAT WAS USED TO SOLICIT FOR THEM DOES INCLUDE A SCOPE PROVISION THAT THEY CAN ALSO DESIGN THE BRIDGE ENTRANCE AND THEY ARE WELL POSITIONED TO DO THAT EXPERIENCE.

I'VE PROVIDED IN THIS PACKET A SHORT PRESENTATION THEY'VE PROVIDED ABOUT SOME OF THEIR BRIDGE EXPERIENCE SO THEY COULD DO BOTH THE CAMPGROUND AND THE BRIDGE DESIGN. IN TERMS OF TIMING, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I WANT TO MENTION IS FIRST, AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, AND THIS OF COURSE, WOULD BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS WE GO INTO DESIGN, THE CONSULTANT IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DO THE BRIDGE FIRST BECAUSE IT WOULD ALLOW US TO NOT HAVE TO TRAVERSE THROUGH THE PARK WITH HEAVY CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, DAMAGING THE OTHER EXISTING INTERIOR ROADWAYS.

SO IT WOULD KIND OF MITIGATE THAT FUTURE OPERATIONAL AND RESTORATIVE IMPACT.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO NOTE IS THAT CURRENTLY THE GRANT FROM THE COUNTY DOES EXPIRE, ACCORDING TO STAFF, SEPTEMBER 21ST, 2024. THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE GRANT IS THAT WE EXPEND $1.7 MILLION.

WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE COMPLETE WITH THE CAMPGROUND BY THAT DATE.

WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION IF NEEDED, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE CAPITAL FACILITIES GRANT COMMITTEE.

THE TDC AND THEN ALSO BREVARD COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

SO FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS ANALYSIS, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU JUST SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL FIGURES.

IF YOU PROCEEDED WITH JUST THE BRIDGE, ONLY WE WOULD USE THE EXISTING IMPACT FEE DOLLARS WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE PROJECT AND WE WOULD NEED TO ADD TO IT $1.23 MILLION FROM THREE TO 9 OR 7 AND 3 TO 9 ZERO EIGHT, WHICH WE DO HAVE AVAILABLE.

WE WOULD ALSO RETURN 558,000 TO THE GENERAL FUND AND WE WOULD FORFEIT THE GRANT.

IF YOU DID 45 SITES IN A BRIDGE, WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE THE PROJECT BUDGET BY $3.5 MILLION.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY TAKE THE CURRENT 3 TO 907 PARKS IMPACT FEE, BALANCE DOWN TO ZERO AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AND I'M USING JULY 2023 FIGURES, THAT'S THE MOST RECENT ONES THAT I HAVE.

AND THEN WE WOULD NEED TO TAKE ADDITIONAL MONEY FROM 3 TO 908.

THERE WOULD BE NO GENERAL FUND IMPACT AND YOU WOULD HAVE A REMAINING BALANCE IN 3 TO 908 OF ABOUT $1 MILLION.

IF YOU WENT WITH THE 82 SITE OPTION, WE WOULD NEED TO INCREASE THE BUDGET BY OVER $5 MILLION.

WE WOULD USE $4.4 MILLION FROM 3 TO 907 AND 3 TO 908 AS OF RIGHT NOW.

THAT WOULD TAKE THE BALANCES OF BOTH OF THOSE IMPACT FEE ACCOUNTS DOWN TO ZERO.

THAT'S PARKS IMPACT FEES, EXCUSE ME.

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I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR. THERE WILL BE AN OPERATIONAL IMPACT TO THE GENERAL FUND IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE STAFFING AND MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF THE PARK.

HOWEVER, WE DO WANT TO NOTE THAT RECREATION IS NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND.

IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE SELF SUFFICIENT.

IT IS DESIGNED TO BE SUPPORTED BY THE GENERAL FUND.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THE 138 SITE ANALYSIS.

IT IS ATTACHED IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED, BUT IT IS NOT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR THE CITY.

SO WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING IT AT THIS TIME.

I'M AVAILABLE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. NO.

DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON IF WE USE THE RECREATION IMPACT FEE FROM 3 TO 9 ZERO EIGHT AND NINE. WOULD THAT HURT RECREATION DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS FUNDING IS CONCERNED.

SO FOR THE OPTION WITH 82 SITES AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU WOULD TAKE BOTH OF THOSE BALANCES DOWN TO ZERO.

NOW, WILL THEY CONTINUE TO GROW AS NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE? YES, THEY WILL.

BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO PACE THAT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES INTO THE CITY.

FOR THE 45 SITES, YOU WOULD TAKE THE BALANCE OF 3 TO 907 DOWN TO ZERO AND YOU WOULD LEAVE ABOUT $1 MILLION IN 32908.

SO IN TERMS OF HURTING THE DEPARTMENT, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT IT WOULD NECESSARILY HURT THE DEPARTMENT, BUT WHAT IT WOULD DO IS IT WOULD RESTRICT OUR ABILITY TO USE IMPACT FEES FOR ANY ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT WE WANT TO ADD TO OUR RECREATION FACILITIES OR ADD NEW RECREATIONAL FACILITIES WITHIN THOSE TWO RATIONAL NEXUS.

YEAH. MY CONCERN IS, IS IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE DO THE BRIDGE AND THE SITE, WE HAVE LESS MONEY TO FUND OUR OTHER PARKS AND RECREATION SITES.

I'M CORRECT WITH THAT OR NOT.

WE WOULD NOT HAVE AS MUCH CAPITAL DOLLARS TO DO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN BOTH OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEW ADDITIONS BECAUSE OF GROWTH IN THE CITY.

WE WOULD STILL RELY ON THE GENERAL FUND AND GRANTS AND OTHER REVENUE SOURCES FOR REPLACEMENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

THAT'S THAT'S TODAY.

BUT I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I WANTED TO PROPOSE SOMETHING TO COUNCIL.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THIS IS AND I'M JUST COMING FROM FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WERE HERE ON THIS DAIS AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

THE DYNAMICS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAS CHANGED.

THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, THAT DYNAMIC IS TOTALLY CHANGED.

COUNCIL, AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE ARE GOING TO EXPAND THAT CORRIDOR.

THERE'S FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR.

I'M ON BOARD WITH THE THE BRIDGE.

THE BRIDGE NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I AM ON BOARD.

BUT FOR US TO INVEST 4 TO $5 MILLION AND IT WOULD BE 4.5.

WE CAN USE THOSE IMPACT FEES.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND, AS GROWTH CONTINUES, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO MY MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS AS THIS.

LET'S BUILD A BRIDGE.

LET'S HAVE ADDITIONAL FIELDS BECAUSE THOSE THOSE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BRING FAMILIES AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED MORE BASEBALL FIELDS.

WE'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL FOOTBALL FIELDS.

THERE IS A FOOTBALL FIELD THERE THAT COULD PROBABLY WE COULD ENHANCE IT WITH A GRANDSTAND AND WE COULD USE THOSE IMPACT FEES FOR THAT.

AND THEN PERHAPS WITH THAT KIND OF MONEY, WE COULD EVEN HAVE A SPLASH PAD INCLUDED IN THAT REGIONAL PARK. SO I WOULD THE DYNAMICS HAS CHANGED SO MUCH AND I KNOW THAT I WAS FOR THIS.

BUT AS I LOOK AT IT, WE HAVE A CAMPGROUND AND THEN I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY.

WE IF WE HAVE A CAMPGROUND, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HOST OTHER OTHER FOLKS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE COMPLEXITY IS, RIGHT? I LIKE TO GET PALM BAY ON THE MAP, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'D RATHER BUILD THE AMENITIES, USE THAT MONEY TO BUILD THE AMENITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE THERE TODAY,

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SO I THINK IT WOULD BE PRUDENT OF US FOR US TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENHANCE PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK WITH THOSE IMPACT FEES AS OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT WHERE WE'RE CONTINUING TO TO INVEST AND INVEST AND WE'RE INVESTING TO BUILD A CAMPGROUND AS OPPOSED TO ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN THAT THAT REGION.

WE'RE ABOUT TO GROW IN THAT REGION.

THERE ARE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY BEING BUILT.

THERE'S COMMERCIAL THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING.

SO I THINK THIS WOULD ENHANCE THAT WHOLE AREA IF WE WERE TO USE THAT THOSE FUNDS, THOSE IMPACT FEES TO MAKE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES WITHIN OUR OUR OUR PARK TODAY.

AND THAT'S THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, GENTLEMEN.

SO I JUST WANT TO HEAR YOUR DISCUSSION.

I'D LOVE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

WELL, MAYOR, I THINK IT WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE IF PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST AND THEN.

OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANTED TO THROW IT OUT THERE SO YOU GUYS CAN START THINKING ABOUT IT.

OH, I KNOW WHERE I STAND, SO.

OKAY, SIR. AS YOU WERE.

ALL RIGHT. SO, SPEAKER CARDS.

MR. BILL BATTEN. JUST DON'T WANT TO GET.

SO I'M GOING TO SPEAK QUICK BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THIS ONE.

BILL BATTEN, 586, OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

NUMBER ONE, WHY COULDN'T IT BE CONSIDERED ENTERPRISE FUNDS THEN IT WOULD BE SELF SUSTAINING.

ITEM NUMBER. THE NEXT ITEM ONE MORE TIME.

I'VE BEEN LIED TO.

I ASKED ABOUT THE COST OF THE CAMPGROUND WHEN IT WAS FIRST BEING PROPOSED STARTING IN 2016.

THE ACTUAL QUOTE WAS NO FUNDS FROM GENERAL FUND.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A SELF SUSTAINING IDENTITY.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS GOOD ABOUT THE $1.7 MILLION INITIAL EXPENDITURE.

NOW WE'RE ESTIMATED COST IS OVER $5 MILLION AND THAT IS WITHOUT THE MODIFICATIONS TO MALABAR ROAD EXTENSION.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, I HAVE REQUESTED USING IMPACT FEES FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS AND TOLD THEY MUST STAY IN THEIR EARNED ZIP CODES.

SO WHY ARE YOU RECOMMENDING USING 3 TO 908 FOR A PROJECT AND 3 TO 907? AND THIS IS PERTINENT BECAUSE OF THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED IN 3 TO 908 THAT INCORPORATES THE THE COMPOUND.

AND IF YOU'RE YOU'RE TRYING TO THINK OF HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PROMOTE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THOSE FUNDS TO HELP PROMOTE THAT AREA.

BUT INSTEAD, WE'RE GIVING IT TO ANOTHER ZIP CODE.

RIGHT? OKAY.

NEXT ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ANNUAL PERSONNEL EXPENSES ESTIMATED BETWEEN FOUR 247,000 TO $428,000 ANNUALLY, PLUS 12 HOURS A DAY.

SECURITY FOR 365 DAYS A YEAR.

THAT WAS INCLUDED IN IT.

THE ONLY GOOD THING I CAN SEE ON THAT IS POTENTIALLY THAT WOULD BE AN OVERTIME FUNDING SOURCE OR A PART TIME FUNDING SOURCE TO HELP OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT GET SOME EXTRA DOLLARS.

THAT'S THE ONLY POSITIVE I CAN SEE IN ANY OF THIS SO FAR.

NEXT ITEM ON PLANNING OF THE ON THE BRIDGE, IT WAS CONSIDERING 11 FOOT WIDE ROAD ACCESSES.

THESE ARE MOBILE MOBILE HOMES.

THEY CAN LEGALLY BE NINE FEET WIDE PLUS THE MIRRORS THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT THAT GETS A LITTLE BIT TIGHT.

WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GUIDE INTO THIS INTO THE SYSTEMS. AND YOU ALREADY SAID MALABAR ROAD COULDN'T HANDLE THAT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE TURNS OR THE WAIT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, I HAVE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS.

ONE, GIVE BACK THE LOAN BECAUSE THIS PROJECT GOT OUT OF CONTROL.

ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PERFECT IDENTITY TO HAVE YOUR CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD LOOKING AT AND ANALYZING SEPARATE IDENTITIES TO WORK WITH.

THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A PERFECT IDENTITY AND I MADE IT IN TIME.

I'M SURPRISED IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTIONS AND WANTED MORE INPUT.

I TRY TO GIVE IT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

BUTCHER RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE.

I'D JUST LIKE TO BACK UP WHAT BILL JUST SAID.

PLUS, I AM AN AUTHOR.

I HAVE A 36 FOOT RV.

IT WEIGHS 24,000 POUNDS.

AND HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

MALABAR ROAD, TWO OF US GOING EAST WEST IS NOT GOING TO WORK.

PLUS. AS AN AUTHOR, WHY WOULD I GO OUT THERE AND STAY IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE?

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THERE'S NO SWIMMING POOL, THERE'S TENNIS COURTS, THERE'S FOOTBALL, SOFTBALL FIELDS, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

NO GOLF COURSE.

WHY WOULD I SPEND MY MONEY TO GO OUT THERE? THING. I JUST THINK IT'S A WASTE OF CITY MONEY TO DO IT BECAUSE.

REVENUE COMING IN.

HOW MUCH ARE THE SPOTS GOING TO GO FOR? NORMAL PRICE IS ANYWHERE FROM 25 TO 50 BUCKS.

YOU GET TO THE HIGHER MARKETS, IT CAN GET UP TO 75 TO 100.

SO I'M THINKING PALM BAY WOULD BE DOWN 35 TO 50 PER LOT.

IS IT GOING TO BE FULL SERVICE WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRIC? UM, JUST.

I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA FOR CITY MONEY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. OKAY.

SO. GENTLEMEN, I SHARED MY THOUGHTS.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I MEAN, THIS IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

SO, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU WANT TO LEAD IT OFF? YES, SIR. I WILL LEAD IT OFF JUST TO WE GOT TO MAKE A MOTION JUST TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

SO MY MOTION IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO NEGOTIATE A DESIGN TASK ORDER WITH KIMLEY-HORN FOR THE BRIDGE ONLY.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

OKAY. SO YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE WHERE I STAND.

WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? YES, SIR. AND I WASN'T TRYING TO CUT IT OFF EARLIER.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PROCEDURALLY, BUT AND I'LL MENTION HIS NAME.

THOMAS GOMM WAS MY OPPONENT BACK IN 2018.

AND THIS WAS ONE THING ME AND HIM DISAGREED ON AT THAT TIME.

I WAS A BIG I WAS A BIG PROPONENT FOR THE CAMPGROUND AND I LOVED IT.

I WOULD TALK ABOUT IT TO EVERYBODY I CAME ACROSS.

THIS IS COMING.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M A GROWN MAN.

I'M WILLING TO ADMIT WHERE MY IDEOLOGY CHANGES.

AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S WHAT'S THE CASE.

I HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STUFF I PLAY IN THE STOCK MARKET, AS SOON AS I'M STARTING TO LOSE TOO MUCH, YOU GOT TO CUT AS SOON AS IT GOES PAST 20%, I'M OUT.

AND THAT'S WHY I SEE RIGHT HERE JUST BEING HONEST AND THAT'S WHY I SEE RIGHT HERE.

SO WHILE REALISTICALLY I STILL WOULD LOVE FOR THIS HAPPEN, I JUST I JUST CAN'T SEE IT HAPPENING.

MAYOR SO IT'S FRUSTRATING BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH WORK I'VE BEEN PUT TO THIS BY FRED, BY PAST ADMINISTRATION, BY PAST COUNCIL, EVEN WHEN IN PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM PAST COUNCIL WANTED TO GIVE THE MONEY BACK. I WAS A PROPONENT SAYING, NO, NO, YES, SIR.

SO HERE I AM ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO IT'S IT'S DISHEARTENING.

BUT I FEEL RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE BEST OPTION WE HAVE, SIR.

SO THAT'S ALL.

COPY THAT. DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR.

UM, CONTRARY.

I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT TAKE ON THIS.

WHO DOES THAT GIVE? GAVE AWAY FREE MONEY.

YOU GOT MONEY? $1.7 MILLION.

WE FOUGHT AND FOUGHT HARD TO GET THAT MONEY.

TDC DON'T JUST GIVE AWAY MONEY.

WHO DOES THAT? I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW I'M NOT ABOUT.

I'M GOING DOWN. IF I'M GOING DOWN, I'M FIGHTING FOR THIS THIS MONEY TO STAY.

WE NEED TO PUT IT TO GOOD USE.

I SEE. I SEE NOTHING.

PLUS THE BENEFIT TO THIS AND TO TO MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, MAKE GIVE AN ANALOGY ABOUT THE STOCK MARKET.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, THE THE THE THING WITH THE STOCK MARKET YOU NEVER PULL OUT WHEN YOU'RE LOSING MONEY.

YOU HANG IN THERE.

YOU'RE IN IT FOR A LONG TERM.

IT GOES DOWN, IT GOES BACK UP.

YOU GET OUT WHEN IT'S HIGH, NOT WHEN YOU'RE 20% DOWN.

SO SO THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, TO COUNTER WHAT THEY SAID AND I RESPECT HIGHLY RESPECT IS IS TAKE AND IS IS IS YOU KNOW, APPROACH ON THIS.

BUT OVERALL, GENERALLY YOU DON'T GET OUT WHEN IT'S DOWN, YOU GET OUT WHEN IT'S UP.

SO BUT I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE IDEA OF GIVING THE MONEY AWAY I GET.

AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TRANSPIRE OVER TIME.

AND THAT'S WHY LAST TIME, IF I MAY, MA'AM, CAN I BRING FRED FORWARD? MR. POPPY, CAN YOU COME FORWARD? AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW, UNDERSTANDING THE DYNAMIC FROM THE COUNTY PERSPECTIVE.

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SO I'D LIKE TO ASK YOUR, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION FROM YOUR VIEW, YOUR 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

YOU'VE DONE EVERY ASPECT OF THIS.

YOU WERE IN THE HEART OF THIS.

YOU UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY, YOU UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERS, THE VIABILITY.

THE QUESTION TO YOU, DO YOU SEE THIS PROJECT VIABLE FOR IN THIS CURRENT TIME, THE CURRENT SITUATION WE'RE IN? WELL, I CAN ONLY RENDER MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I MEAN, IT'S IT'S YOUR OPINION.

IT'S REALLY UP TO THE COUNCIL FOR YOU GUYS TO DECIDE.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC DOLLARS.

I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU.

YES. YOU KNOW, I'VE THOUGHT THIS WAS VIABLE FROM THE BEGINNING.

IF I DIDN'T, I WOULD NEVER BROUGHT IT FORWARD.

WE WOULD NEVER WENT TO TDC AND PUT IT IN FRONT OF THEM TO TO GET THAT MONEY.

I THINK WHAT I SEE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AND IN THAT TIME THERE'S BEEN THREE DIFFERENT COUNCILS AND THREE DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS. AND SO SO THERE'S.

PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN ADMINISTRATIONS, COUNCILS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE ORIGINAL TAKE WAS TO MAXIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF SITES WE COULD GET ON THE FACILITY.

AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS DESIGNED IN THE FASHION IT WAS.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET 138 SITES.

THE WHOLE OBJECTIVE AT THE BEGINNING WAS TO TO GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUE TO TRY TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE OPERATIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THE PARK, BECAUSE WE HAD JUST NEWLY ACQUIRED THOSE FACILITIES FROM THE COUNTY.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THE COUNTY PAYING US A CERTAIN SUM YEARLY FOR FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, THE COST OF OPERATING THOSE FACILITIES WAS WAS MORE THAN WHAT WE WERE GETTING.

SO SO THE GOAL WAS GIVEN TO US WAS TO TRY TO GENERATE AS MUCH REVENUE AS WE COULD TO TRY TO OFFSET COSTS FOR OPERATING SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR FOR ALL OF IT.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS THE MAIN BASIS BEHIND IT.

AND ALSO AT THE TIME, MAYOR CAPOTE WAS A BIG PROPONENT OF TRYING TO BRING TOURISM IN.

SO THAT WAS A THAT WAS A NATURAL, YOU KNOW, THING THAT JOINED IT TOGETHER WITH THE THE REVENUE TAKE AND THE TOURISM BECAUSE THAT IT ACCOMPLISHED BOTH THOSE BOTH THOSE OBJECTIVES.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, DO I THINK IT'S VIABLE, I THINK IT IS STILL VIABLE.

THE THING IS, IS IT IS IT WORTH THE THE INVESTMENT? AT THE TIME WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, YOU KNOW, COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS WERE WAY DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE NOW.

SO, SO AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN THOSE TIMES, IT DOES MAKE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOR ME, I MEAN, THIS THIS WAS IMPORTANT AND I STILL SEE IT AS BEING IMPORTANT, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT IT AND SEE THE BIG PICTURE. UM, THE, THE BIGGEST HOPE I WOULD HAVE IS THAT WE WOULD THINK ABOUT DESIGNING IT AND MAYBE IF WE CAN UTILIZE THE 1.7 TDC MONEY TO AT LEAST GET TO A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF SITES AND MAYBE DESIGN IT FOR FUTURE, AND THAT WAY YOU HAVE AN OPTION FOR THE FUTURE.

BUT BUT YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, I, I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU. SO IN OTHER WORDS, TO TO STAFF, IF WE SAY IF WE DESIGN 45 SITES, WE WOULD STILL WE CAN UTILIZE THE TDC MONEY OR DO WE HAVE TO COMPLETE IT ONCE? YEAH, CORRECT.

THE TDC REQUIREMENT IS THAT WE BUILD A CAMPGROUND.

THERE'S NO SPECIFIC DELIVERABLES OTHER THAN A NATURE CENTER, WHICH THEY HAVE LOOSELY INTERPRETED TO BE ANYTHING FROM NATURE SIGNAGE ON A TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE PARK. SO THAT IS THE ONLY REQUIREMENT OF THE GRANT.

SO WHAT I'M HEARING, WE CAN AS LONG AS WE BUILD THE CAMPGROUND, IT'S WE'RE NOT LIMITED BASED ON THEIR REQUIREMENT FOR THAT TO HAVE TO ACCESS THIS MONEY.

AT 1.7 MILLION, WE CAN DESIGN A 45 POTENTIALLY.

IF WE CAN HAVE A DESIGN, SAY WE'RE GOING TO DESIGN 90 SO WE CAN DESIGN AND BUILD FOR GOING FOR CONSTRUCTION WITH THE FIRST WITH UTILIZING THAT THAT 1.7 AND POTENTIALLY TO INCREASE LATER ON AND STILL BE ABLE TO BUILD THE BRIDGE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I KNOW I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO SEPARATE THINGS BECAUSE HERE IS I WANT I WANT TO FINISH PRODUCT THE BUILD THE BRIDGE.

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IT'S CRITICAL WE HAVE THE BRIDGE AND START WITH THAT FIRST, MICHAEL, I'M BUILDING A CASE FOR WHERE WE CAN KEEP BOTH PROJECTS, KEEP BOTH PROJECTS.

IF WE MUST START WITH THE 45.

SITE. WE BUILD A BRIDGE, WE HAVE THE 45 SITE.

AND HERE IS. THANK YOU, FRED.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT.

AND HERE IS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HEAR FROM HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HE HAS A GOOD UNDERSTANDING, THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING, MAYBE MORE THAN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM.

I WANTED HIS OPINION, CERTAINLY, AND THE DECISION, IT'S WITH US.

BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HEAR HIM SAY THIS PROJECT IS STILL VIABLE.

AND THIS YOU KNOW, THE TIME WE'RE IN THE TREND IS POST-COVID.

A LOT OF FOLKS ARE RETIRING EARLY.

OKAY. PEOPLE ARE RETIRING IN THEIR MID 50S BECAUSE WHAT COVID DID, IT OPENED PEOPLE'S EYES.

AND TO SEE THE REALITY OF LIFE, REALLY A LOT OF FOLKS LEAVE THEIR CAREER THE 20 PLUS YEARS, 30 YEARS CAREER, A LOT OF FOLKS ARE TRAVELING AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE COMING TO FLORIDA.

WE'VE SEEN THE NUMBERS.

THE TREND IS FROM.

PRE-COVID WAS ON AVERAGE OF 1000 FOLKS CROSSING THE BORDER OF GEORGIA COMING DOWN HERE.

NOW IT'S ABOUT 1300.

AND A LOT OF THOSE YOUNGER PART OF RETIREES, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING, SELLING THEIR HOMES, YOU KNOW, BUYING RV.

SO FLORIDA PEOPLE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE COMING TO FLORIDA.

SO I SEE THIS AS A VIABLE PRODUCT, A PROJECT WE MENTIONED.

YES, IT IS NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT WE CAN IT CAN BE SELF SUSTAINED.

I HAVE NO DOUBT IN MY MIND SHOULD WE BUILD 99 OR 82 SITES TODAY, THIS WOULD BE A VIABLE PRODUCT.

OUR PROJECT. SO OBVIOUSLY I'VE SAID ENOUGH.

I'M NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TALKING.

I SAY WE MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH WITH BOTH.

SHOULD WE SETTLE FOR FOR.

I'M WILLING TO SETTLE FOR 45 SITE BUILD A BRIDGE PLUS THE DESIGN OF 45 SITES.

SO WE CAN KEEP THE 1.7 MILLION AT THE LEAST.

I REALLY WANTED TO SEE THE 282, BUT I'LL BE WILLING TO DO BUILD A BRIDGE.

AND BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FUNDING, IF IF THE IF THE ISSUE IS TAKING THE 700,000 FROM UNDESIGNATED FUND, WHICH WE HAVE.

SO LET'S GO TO 45 SITE.

LET'S GET THE DESIGN, LET'S BUILD THE BRIDGE AND MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS THAT I HAD TO COME TO GRIPS WITH, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID BECAUSE HE HAD TO COME TO GRIPS WITH HIS WHOLE IDEOLOGY ON THIS ONE.

ONE OF MY ISSUES WAS GIVING BACK THE FUNDS IT TRULY WAS.

GIVING BACK THE FUNDS IS ONE, ONE THOUGHT PROCESS.

AND IN THAT PROCESS, I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WHO AM I PROVIDING SERVICES FOR? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING FOLKS IN, IF THAT.

BUT I'M ALSO THINKING OF DOWNRANGE.

WHEN WILL THIS PROJECT BE COMPLETED? WE'RE TALKING AT LEAST FIVE YEARS DOWN RANGE.

AM I CORRECT IN THAT? THREE, FOUR YEARS? I'M SORRY FOR THE FOR, LET'S SAY, THE INITIAL ROUND OF SITES AND THE FOR THE SITES? OH, SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN THAT.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BALLPARK THREE, THREE YEARS, 24 MONTHS WITHIN TWO YEARS.

SO I'M THINKING DOWNRANGE, WHAT IS THAT AREA GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HAVE YOU SEEN THE TYPE OF INDUSTRY THAT WE'RE BRINGING? HAVE YOU NOTICED THE TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? ALL THESE HOMES.

SO IN THIS THOUGHT PROCESS OF GIVING BACK THE FUNDS, I'M THINKING USING THOSE IMPACT FEES.

AND IMPROVING THE SERVICES FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THAT REGION.

AND AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, TO CAPITALIZE ON THOSE IMPACT FEES WOULD BE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL BALL FIELDS, WOULD BE TO CREATE PERHAPS SPLASH PADS.

WE KNOW WE NEED THE BRIDGE.

I THINK.

FRED NAILED IT WHEN HE SAID AT THAT TIME, AT THAT TIME, CONSTRUCTION COST WAS DIFFERENT.

THERE WASN'T AN RV PARK COMING ACROSS THE STREET FROM FROM MALABAR ROAD.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I'M I'M LEANING TOWARDS WHERE WHAT WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO ENHANCE THE PARK AS OPPOSED TO CREATING AN RV PARK THERE?

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WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT AT THIS TIME? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO COMMENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMED LIKE AND I WAS 100% FOR THIS PROJECT, THE CAMPGROUND.

AND I HEARD WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID AND, YOU KNOW, AND AND AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID, BUT TO ME, IT SEEMS LIKE.

THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD AN RV PARK OFF MALABAR ROAD, RIGHT? IT'S COMING. AND THE CITY RV PARK WOULD BE WHAT YOU SAY.

COMPETING FOR CUSTOMERS.

AND WE'RE NOT IN THE BUSINESS TO COMPETE FOR BUSINESS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.

BUT HAVING 45 SITES WOULD BRING PEOPLE TO PALM BAY.

YOU MAKE MONEY OFF THE BACK END OF WHAT THEY SPEND IN PALM BAY.

IF THEY SPEND MONEY IN PALM BAY.

THEY MIGHT NOT SPEND NO MONEY AT ALL.

YOU'VE GOT AN RV, YOU GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED IN YOUR IN YOUR YOUR RV.

OTHER THAN GAS, YOU'VE GOT TO PUT GAS.

YOU GOT TO PUT FOOD. YOU'RE GOING TO PULL IN, YOU'RE GOING TO PARK.

AND WHEN YOU LEAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND WE MIGHT NOT GET NO REVENUE FROM THEM BEING HERE OTHER THAN THE FEE THEY PAY FOR STAYING IN THE PARK.

MY CONCERN IS THE IMPACT FEES FOR OUR PARKS AND RECREATION THAT WE'LL BE USING FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS THE SAFETY IN THE THE EXIT AND ENTRY OF THAT PARK IS OUR BIGGEST PARK.

WE USE IT FOR A LOT OF EVENTS.

A BRIDGE WOULD BE PERFECT.

WIDEN THE THE THE ENTRY OF FRED POPPY PARK WOULD BE IS NEEDED.

AND THE BRIDGE OFF SAINT JOHN'S PARKWAY WILL HAVE ANOTHER WAY PEOPLE CAN ACCESS THE PROPERTY PARK.

SO. AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN RV RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF MALABAR AND SAINT JOHN PARK.

WHERE YOU GOING TO HAVE AN RV PARK THAT'S COMING.

SO I THINK WE GOT THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS.

I DON'T WANT TO GET BACK TO THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MONEY, BUT.

IS WE MISSED THE BALL.

WE MISSED THE. WE MISSED THE THE TIMING WAS A COUPLE OF COUNCILS AGO WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

NOW THE COST IS GOING UP AND I DON'T I DON'T LIKE I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT WE GOT TO SPEND TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND BUT DUE TO THE BRIDGE ONLY BE PUTTING BACK $558,492 BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT I GOT.

IF WE DO THE BRIDGE ONLY SO.

UH, I GUESS IF WE DON'T DO THE SIGHTS, WE GOT TO GIVE BACK THE MONEY.

WELL, THAT'S NOT A LOSS ON OUR PART.

THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE HAD.

WE RECEIVED.

HOPEFULLY BE IN GOOD SPIRITS WITH TDC, AND THEY'LL BE WILLING TO LOAN US SOME MORE MONEY IN THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON IT, I THINK.

YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHAT THE DEPUTY MAYOR SAID, AND I JUST THINK WE MISSED THE BOAT.

THAT BOAT DIDN'T SELL BEFORE THIS COUNCIL TOOK THE DAIS.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND THE GENERAL FUND MONEY AND WE CAN'T WE'RE NOT SURE WE EVEN BREAK EVEN AND THE SITE WILL SUSTAIN ITSELF.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT ENHANCING THE PARK WITH THOSE IMPACT FEES, LIKE MAKING AN ADDITIONAL FOOTBALL FIELD OR BASEBALL FIELDS SINCE THE SPACE USING THOSE IMPACT FEES TO ENHANCE PALM BAY OR FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK. MAYOR I'M 100% DOING THAT.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION AND THAT'S MY CONCERN.

I'M USING THE IMPACT FEE, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE ENHANCE OUR PARK AND RECREATION AND AND THAT BRIDGE ENHANCES OUR PARK AND RECREATION AND DOING MORE BASEBALL FIELDS OR FOOTBALL FIELDS OR WHATEVER, OR

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YOU KNOW, LAST CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, YOU COULDN'T EVEN FIND A PARKING SPOT.

I WALKED TWO MILES JUST TO GET TO THE STAGE AND THE THE ENTRY AND THE EXIT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO THE BRIDGE WILL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT PROBLEM.

I THINK WE NEED YOU KNOW, WE APPROVED THESE THESE CULTURAL EVENTS AT THAT PARK TODAY.

I MEAN, A BRIDGE WILL MAKE IT EASY ENTRY AND ACCESS.

AND LIKE YOU SAID, MAYOR, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE THING, JOHN PARKWAY, IS CHANGING.

IT HAS CHANGED WITH THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON UP THERE.

I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A BUNCH OF RVS COMING IN AND OUT WHEN I'M TRYING TO DRIVE ON THAT ROAD.

IF I BUY A $300,000 HOME, I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE A YOU HAVE TWO RV PARKS WITHIN A MILE FROM EACH OTHER, LESS THAN A MILE FROM EACH OTHER.

SO IF WE IF WE DO 45 SITES, I THINK WE GOT OUR RV PARK.

IT'S COMMERCIAL, IT'S A PRIVATE BUSINESS.

AND THEN I THINK WE GOT OUR PARK.

WE CAN ENHANCE OUR PARK AND BRING MORE PEOPLE TO THE PARK.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

WE NEED TO USE THE IMPACT FEE FOR THE CITY PARKS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I THINK WE.

WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THE BRIDGE.

UM, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT GIVING STAFF DIRECTION AS TO PERHAPS LOOKING AT THAT DYNAMIC OF INCLUDING IMPROVING OUR FOOTBALL FIELD, ADDING A FOOTBALL FIELD, MAYBE BASEBALL FIELDS IN THAT SO THAT THEY COULD START LOOKING AT THAT, UM, TO IMPROVE AND ENHANCE THE PARK. I'M ALL FOR IT.

OR IF WE, WE MAY NEED A PARK IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION AS THAT AREA EXPANDS.

SO I'M GOOD WITH GIVING STAFF THAT DIRECTION.

I EMAILED STAFF AND YOU GOT BACK TO ME.

JULIET ON THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO UTILIZE THE PARKS, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT NOT ENOUGH SPACE.

SO THE ONE IS THERE FOR THESE THINGS, BUT I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

SO THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN COUNCIL REPORTS OR NOW OR YEAH, I'M JUST THINKING WE, WE ADD THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION.

THAT WAY STAFF HAS THAT DIRECTION OFFICIALLY.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, MADAM CHAIRMAN? THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO IN ORDER TO DO.

YES, YES.

AS YOU WERE DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO SOMETHING YOU GUYS I MEAN, YOU ADDRESSED THE IDEA, COUNCILMAN FOSTER TALKING LENGTH ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF OF TDC MONEY.

I MEAN, I'M NOT TELLING ANYBODY ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL DON'T KNOW ALREADY TO TO GET, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TDC MONEY.

RIGHT. I MEAN, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH.

I KNOW WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC, HOW THESE ENTITIES WORK TO GIVE THAT MONEY BACK.

I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, DOING ALL TEN YEAR WE'LL NEVER SEE A DIME FROM TDC.

NOT FOR ANYTHING ANYMORE.

WE JUST WE JUST BURN THAT BRIDGE GUARANTEED, NUMBER ONE.

THAT'S A CONSIDERATION.

OKAY. IT JUST DISREGARDING THE WORK, THE HARD WORK OF PREDECESSORS PUT.

TO TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

AND I KNOW THE DYNAMICS HAS CHANGED.

IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME AND A LOT OF THINGS HAS CHANGED.

BUT FOR US TO JUST TURN AROUND AND GIVE THAT MONEY AWAY AND WE'RE JUST MAKING PRESUMPTION, PRESUMPTION, THIS THING IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I'M NOT GETTING IT.

I THINK WE HAVE A COMPROMISE.

LET'S REDUCE IT TO 45.

LET'S BUILD OUR BRIDGE THAT IS SO NEEDED.

I'M ON BOARD. I'M 100%.

LET'S BUILD A BRIDGE FIRST.

GET THIS THING DESIGNED FOR 45.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD. WE STILL WOULD HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER WITHOUT TOUCHING A GENERAL FUND ON DESIGNATED MONEY.

WE STILL WOULD HAVE MONEY IN THE IN THE THREE TO 9 OR 7 AND STILL BE ABLE TO GET GET GET THIS ACCOMPLISHED.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE GETTING SO FAR SHIFTED SO FAR AFTER WE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION BACK IN APRIL TO GET TO THIS AND TO TO MAKE THAT 180 TURN. I'M NOT GETTING IT SOUNDS LIKE I'M IN THE MINORITY HERE, BUT I'M NOT I DON'T KNOW.

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THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. THIS PARK, NOT TOO LONG AGO, THIS PARK REGIONAL PARK, WAS UNDER UTILIZED.

THIS MUST BE MENTIONED AS WELL.

THIS PARK WAS UNDER UTILIZED.

LET'S SEE. FOR FOR A LONG TIME.

WE GOT 6 OR 8 SOCCER FIELD.

I'M NOT SURE. I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY BASEBALL FIELD WE HAVE OR FOOTBALL.

THIS PARK WAS UNDER UTILIZED FOR A LONG TIME.

I KNOW. IS IS THERE NEED NOW? THE NEEDS ARE GROWING.

AS OUR POPULATION GROW.

WE OVER WELL OVER 130,000.

YES, THERE IS NEED.

THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS GROWING.

HERE'S WHAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER WITH THE NEEDS, THE THE NEEDS GROWING.

I THINK PART OF THE WE HAVE A FEW ENTITIES THAT CONTROLLING THE PARK.

THAT'S WHERE THE DEMAND WE GOT ENTITIES, NEW ENTITIES THAT ARE ASKING FOR ACCESS.

WE CANNOT GRANT THEM ACCESS BECAUSE WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF ENTITIES THAT CONTROL IT.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT AND THAT NEED WILL NEED TO LOOKED AT.

OKAY, BECAUSE WE CANNOT MONOPOLIZE A HANDFUL OF ENTITIES CONTROLLING OUR SPACE.

WE HAVE SO MANY SPACE, BUT SO MANY DEMANDS.

SO WE NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK INTO THIS.

AND I'VE ALREADY BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.

WE HAD CONVERSATION WITH CITY MANAGEMENT.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR ISSUE IS.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST MENTIONED SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT.

YES, WE NEED TO START LOOKING ELSEWHERE.

HOW CAN WE ACQUIRE PROPERTY TO BUILD FACILITY, OTHER FACILITY, OR, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A COUPLE OF FOOTBALL FIELDS OR ELSEWHERE? FROM FRED, POPPY PARK, SOCCER FIELD, THERE'S DEMAND.

I AGREE. THE DEMANDS ARE GROWING.

BUT BUT, GENTLEMEN, I'M NOT I CAN'T I CAN'T JUST THE IDEA OF US TURNING AWAY MONEY.

WE'RE NOT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE ARE THE STATE GOVERNMENT THAT JUST CAN'T AFFORD IF I DON'T LIKE THIS.

PRESIDENT. I'M GOING TO TURN OVER AWAY MONEY.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE SOMEONE'S LIKE, OH, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE'RE GOING TO JUST TURN AWAY MONEY WHEN WE CAN USE THAT FUNDING TO DO SOME A LOT OF GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT. THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN WE COULD DEFINITELY SAY TO THE CDC, WE'RE DOING THE PRUDENT THING IN RETURNING THE MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE ITS WAY OVER.

CONSTRUCTION HAS CHANGED.

THERE'S DIFFERENT DYNAMICS.

THE COMPLEXITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE CHANGED.

SO I THINK WE COULD WE COULD MANAGE THAT ASPECT OF OF COMMUNICATING THAT TO THE CDC AT THIS POINT.

LIKE YOU SAID YEARS AGO, FRED.

FRED NAILED IT WHEN HE SAID BACK THEN IT WAS A DIFFERENT DYNAMIC.

SO RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL IS WE HAVE WE WANT TO IMPROVE OUR PARK.

WE NEED THE BRIDGE AND WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO IMPROVE OUR PARK.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, UM, I KNOW THAT THE MOTION IS TO BUILD THE BRIDGE AT THIS POINT, SO I'M THINKING TO MAKE IT PART OF THAT MOTION.

DID YOU NEED THAT OR YOU HAVE ENOUGH WITH WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED? I THINK WE'D APPRECIATE THE MOTION.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO INCLUDE BUILD A BRIDGE AND THEN GO LOOK AT OPTIONS FOR EXPANDING OUR PARKS AND AMENITIES, THAT THAT WOULD BE FINE TOO.

OKAY. ARE YOU AMENABLE TO THAT? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SO I'LL PULL MY SECOND AND I AND I'M IN MY MOTION TO INCLUDE GIVING STAFF DIRECTION TO LOOK AT OTHER IMPROVEMENTS OR ADDITIONAL PARKS AND FACILITIES FOR THAT REGION.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

SO I GOT A MOTION.

IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH? MADAM CHAIRMAN, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

APPARENTLY WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE BRIDGE.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ENHANCING FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK WITH ADDITIONAL FIELDS AND MAYBE EVEN WITHIN THAT REGION, GET ADDITIONAL SPACE FOR MORE PARKS. SOMETHING THAT YOU DIDN'T MENTION IS THOSE CAMPGROUNDS.

WE COULD PROBABLY BUILD THE FIELD RIGHT AT THE PROPOSED CAMPGROUND.

SO THAT MIGHT PREVENT US FROM EVEN HAVING TO GO OUTSIDE WITHIN THAT REGION.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SAY NAY. NAY.

MOTION PASSES 3 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

[NEW BUSINESS (Part 2 of 2)]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION.

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THE ITEMS WE WOULD PRESENT TO OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION AND SEEK FUNDING SUPPORT FOR THE ITEMS IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER INCLUDE, FIRST OF ALL, A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO SUPPORT THE NEXT PHASE OF OUR SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSION PROJECT.

AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE RECEIVED A FIRST ROUND OF FUNDING AT THIS LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND WE RECEIVED ENCOURAGEMENT TO CONSIDER APPLYING FOR THAT SIMILAR TYPE OF FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.

SO THIS WOULD HELP TO FUND INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER CONNECTIONS TO TO ELIMINATE THEIR SEPTIC TANKS AND GET ON CITY SEWER.

SO THAT'S ONE OPTION.

A SECOND SCENARIO WE TALKED ABOUT IS WE DO HAVE A ONE OF OUR CAPITAL PROJECT NEEDS IS A NEW POLICE SUBSTATION AT THE END OF MALABAR IN THE SAINT JOHNS PARISH PARKWAY. SO THAT'S AN ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION.

WE ALSO HAVE AN ITEM THAT REQUESTS A REPLACEMENT FIRE ENGINE.

AND THEN LASTLY, A CITY FACILITY HURRICANE HARDENING REQUEST FOR ROOF AND SHUTTERS HERE AT THE CITY HALL COMPLEX.

ALSO, WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSION BELATEDLY ABOUT THE IDEA IF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN GOING FOR BAFFLE BOXES AGAIN, SINCE WE'VE DONE THAT TWICE NOW, WE DO HAVE SOME SOME NUMBERS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT FOR A SERIES OF SIX BAFFLE BOXES.

IT WOULD BE ABOUT 1.4 MILLION OR SO.

SO ANYWAY, JUST LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO FOCUS ON FOR OUR PRIORITIES FOR THIS YEAR.

YOU KNOW, GENTLEMEN, IF YOU IF YOU ALLOW ME, I'D LIKE TO KICK THIS OFF BECAUSE WE WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE A REALLY SIGNIFICANT, SIGNIFICANT APPROPRIATIONS BLESSING THIS THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

AND IT WAS WATER QUALITY.

IF YOU ALL REMEMBER AND AND THANK YOU FOR THE LEGISLATORS THAT THAT HELPED US IN THAT TO INCLUDE SENATOR MAYFIELD AND REPRESENTATIVE THAD ALTMAN.

NOW, MY MY IDEAS ARE LET'S CONTINUE DOWN THAT PATH, RIGHT? ALL THREE ALL FOUR OF THESE ITEMS ARE GOOD.

BUT WHERE WE'VE HAD THE MOST SUCCESS HAS BEEN WATER QUALITY.

AND YOU SEE THAT THE LEGISLATURE.

AND THE GOVERNOR ARE DOING SO MUCH MORE DURING THESE SESSIONS WHEN IT COMES TO WATER QUALITY.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN ADD ADDITIONAL BAFFLE BOXES IN PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT EVEN MORE OVER AS WELL, TO START THINKING ABOUT REQUESTING MORE FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO FELLSMERE GOT, WHAT WAS IT, $50 MILLION SEPTIC TO SEWER.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? AND I'M LIKE, WHY ISN'T PALM BAY GETTING 50 MILLION? AND I, I BOUGHT THAT TOO, AND I HAD THAT DISCUSSION.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF, IF WE CAN ENHANCE OUR, OUR RESIDENTS WITH THE SEPTIC TO SEWER, IF THAT'S OUR GOAL, IS TO MAKE IT WHERE WE COULD REDUCE TAPPING INTO THE SEPTIC TO SEWER, THEN I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD OPTION TO INCLUDE THE BAFFLE BOXES BECAUSE EVERYONE'S EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE EFFORTS OF IMPROVING THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IS THE WHEELS TURN REALLY SLOW ON THAT.

HOWEVER, THESE BAFFLE BOXES, THESE NUTRIENT FILTERING BAFFLE BOXES ARE PROVING THEIR WORTH.

AND WE JUST INVESTED IN ANOTHER VACUUM TRUCK.

SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

I'M GOOD WITH EVERYTHING, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE EMPHASIS ON A HIGHER AMOUNT FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER AND TO ADD THOSE BAFFLE BOXES.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, GENTLEMEN.

BUT THESE ITEMS ARE PERFECT.

AS AN INITIATIVE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

MAYOR ESPECIALLY INCREASING FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER AS WELL AS BAFFLE BOXES.

I WOULD GO AS FAR AS TO SAY AND STAFF CAN STOP ME IF THEY THEY FEEL THEY SHOULD.

IF WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO PULL BACK ON ONE ITEM, I WOULD SAY THE THE ITEM TO PULL BACK WOULD BE THE HARDENING FOR ROOFING SHUTTERS.

IF THAT MEANS GIVING US MORE, YOU KNOW, LEVERAGE TO ASK FOR MORE FOR SEPTIC, TO SEWER FOR BAFFLE BOXES.

IF WE FEEL WE CAN ASK FOR ALL YOU KNOW, WE CAN MAKE IT 5 OR 6 REQUESTS, THEN LET'S DO THAT.

OTHERWISE THAT WOULD BE THE ONE.

I WOULD SAY LET'S REMOVE THAT SO WE CAN ASK FOR MORE FOR THE OTHER ITEMS. UM. AS NOT RECEIVED.

NOT. BUT. GO AHEAD, MADAM.

I WAS GOING TO SAY A VERSION OF THAT.

SO, LIKE, IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH ALL THE ITEMS, WE WILL WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THOSE THAT LOOK LIKE THEY WON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT WILL.

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GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, LET YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT LIKELY TO GO.

BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN RECENTLY, THAT THE TOP TWO THINGS THAT WOULD BE ANYTHING WATER QUALITY RELATED SO SEPTIC TO SEWER THE BAFFLE BOXES AND INCREASING THE SEPTIC TO SEWER ASK IS NOT AN UNREASONABLE THING TO DO.

AND THEY CAN ALWAYS SAY GIVE YOU LESS AS A SCENARIO.

SO YEAH.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU LIKE TO WEIGH IN, SIR? UM, YES.

ITEM NUMBER THREE REPLACED FIRE ENGINES.

REQUEST OF 2.5 MILLION HOURS.

I'D LIKE TO KEEP THAT ITEM, BUT ADD REPLACED BY IN OR A SYSTEM BUILDING A FIRE STATION.

YOU GIVE THEM AN OPTION? EITHER ONE. THEY CAN REPLACE THE FIRE ENGINE FIRST.

GIVE US THE MONEY FOR A FIRE ENGINE OR HELP US BUILD A FIRE STATION.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, WE COULDN'T DO AN EITHER OR.

WE COULD HAVE A SEPARATE REQUEST ALTOGETHER SO WE COULD HAVE A ESSENTIALLY A SIX ITEM.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE US TO ADD THAT, WE COULD.

I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I JUST WOULD SHARE THAT THE FIRE ENGINE IS VERY MUCH A LONG SHOT, AND I DON'T ACTUALLY ANTICIPATE THAT WE'D GET A LOT OF TRACTION ON IT.

BUT WE PUT IT ON HERE BECAUSE IT WAS ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE TEAM.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A SIMILAR SCENARIO WITH A FIRE STATION.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT THOSE REQUESTS BEFORE AND HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY TRACTION AT THE STATE LEVEL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LOBBYISTS AND WITH THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION MEMBERS AND SEE WHAT THEY WERE WILLING TO SUPPORT.

AND THAT KIND OF GUIDES, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE THINK WE CAN ACTUALLY GET SOME TRACTION.

COUNCILMAN FOR SOME RIGHT ALONG WITH YOU THERE.

THE ONLY THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE SUBMITTED FOR ASSISTANCE FOR STATION SEVEN, AS YOU REMEMBER, MULTIPLE TIMES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE PUTTING A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY TOWARDS IT, SOMEHOW WE WEREN'T ABLE TO TO LOCK IN ON THAT.

BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH KEEPING THAT THERE, SIR.

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.

WE COULD CONTINUE TO TO FIGHT FOR THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. I'M GOOD. I'M GOOD.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR.

I'M OKAY WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE.

I DO AGREE. WE CAN CERTAINLY INCREASE THE SEPTIC TO SEWER ITEM.

I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND I THINK THEY, YOU KNOW, STAFF CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMIC, HOW THINGS WORK IN TERMS OF WHAT WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE MORE TRACTION WITH. SO I'M LEANING ON ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION WITH THE ADDITION ADDING MORE, ASKING MORE IN ITEM NUMBER ONE.

OKAY. SO I NEED A MOTION.

PUBLIC COMMENTS. AS YOU WERE.

DO WE HAVE? FEEL.

NO. NUMBER FIVE.

WHICH NUMBER IS THIS? THIS IS NUMBER FOUR.

NO, NO, NO. OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE STAFF AND CITY STATE LOBBYING FIRM SUNRISE CONSULTING GROUP TO ADVOCATE FOR THE FOLLOWING 2024 STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ITEM ONE FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSIONS.

NEW POLICE SUBSTATION AT THE WEST OF MALABAR IN SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

REPLACEMENT FIRE ENGINE.

ADDITIONAL FIRE STATION BAFFLE BOX FUNDING FOR BAFFLE BOXES AND CITY FACILITATES CITY FACILITY HURRICANE HARDENING FOR ROOF AND SHUTTERS.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL DO WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THE MOTION, MADAM CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WITH.

WITH THE BAFFLE BOXES.

OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MISS SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO THIS ITEM IS A CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUESTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.

THEY ARE RELATED TO THE FACT THAT, NUMBER ONE, WE'VE RECEIVED ABOUT 920,000 OR SO IN ADDITIONAL STATE SHARED REVENUE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE THAT TO SOME REQUESTS THAT WERE UNFUNDED.

BUT IT ALSO EXPANSIVELY LOOKS AT THE UNFUNDED CAPITAL NEEDS THAT WERE IN OUR 24 BUDGET REQUESTS.

WE HAVE AROUND 10.6 MILLION IN UNFUNDED CAPITAL NEEDS AND WE'RE HOPING TO ADDRESS WITH USE OF SOME UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE A LIST OF ITEMS

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I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE'VE IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET ENVIRONMENT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD SOME NEW POSITIONS WHICH WE'VE BEEN THANKFUL TO DO.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MEET OUR CURRENT OBLIGATIONS AND THE COSTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP TO MAINTAIN EXISTING OPERATIONS AND CONTINUE TO EXPAND TO MEET THE NEEDS OF A GROWING CITY.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO IN THE PAST BUDGET CYCLES IS SUCCESSFULLY BUILD IN CAPITAL FUNDING WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT WE PRESENT TO YOU AT THE START OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'VE COME UP WITH DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.

WE'VE LET FUND BALANCE, UNDESIGNATED, FUND BALANCE BUILD UP AND WE HAVE PULLED FROM THAT BEFORE TO MEET CAPITAL NEEDS.

YOU'LL REMEMBER A LIST THAT WE HAD NOT NOT TOO LONG AGO, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND THIS IS SIMILAR.

SO THE THE FOCUS HERE IS TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THIS LIST OF THINGS.

THERE'S ABOUT $6.4 MILLION IN TOTAL REQUESTS.

6 MILLION OF THAT WILL BE CAPITAL AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT NEEDS AND SEVERAL NEW CAPITAL EQUIPMENT ITEMS THAT ARE REQUESTED.

THE BALANCE OF 400,000 OR SO ARE SOME PERSONNEL AND OPERATING NEEDS THAT WE WOULD BE FUNDING WITH THE STATE SHARED REVENUE PORTION, NOT THE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE PORTION.

BUT PART OF WHAT I WANTED TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU IS TO ACTUALLY TALK THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY PART OF THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO COUNCIL.

AND OF THE $6 MILLION IN REQUESTS, OVER 4 MILLION ARE POLICE AND FIRE REQUESTS.

AND WE HAVE HAD PRESENTATIONS.

WE TALKED TO YOU LAST SUMMER ABOUT THE THE PLANS TO GROW, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY IN BOTH POLICE AND FIRE IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT AND STATIONS AND ALL THOSE THINGS AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

AND SO I ASKED BOTH CHIEFS TO BE READY TO DO SOME BRIEF OVERVIEW PRESENTATIONS FOR YOU.

AND ONCE THEY DO THAT, THEN I'LL GO A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THE DETAIL OF THE FUNDING ITEMS THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THIS LIST.

AND THEN WE CAN TALK THROUGH A COUPLE LITTLE CHANGES AS WELL.

SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO START WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF.

I'LL HAVE MARIO COME UP AND GIVE HIS PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. WELCOME, CHIEF AJELLO.

DOWN HERE WITH ME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

COUNCIL. SO THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WHAT, A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO, I STOOD HERE IN FRONT OF YOU AND DISCUSSED OUR NEEDS IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE POLICE SIDE OF THINGS, THE NEED FOR VEHICLES, THE NEED FOR PERSONNEL.

BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER AT AT ONE POINT DURING MY PRESENTATION LAST YEAR, WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH OUR STAFFING FROM BOTH OUR SWORN AND OUR CIVILIAN STAFFING IN TERMS OF OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER AND OUR RECORDS DIVISION AS WELL.

SO WHAT I'M GOING TO COVER IN THIS SHORT PRESENTATION AND THEN I PROMISE IT WILL BE SHORT AND SWEET, IS IS WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ASKED AND REQUESTED AND WHAT WE RECEIVED.

THANK YOU. FROM, FROM THE COUNCIL TO HELP US JUMP START TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO EVERY YEAR TO SUSTAIN THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY, FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHERE WE'RE NEEDING TO GO FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 AND MOVING ON FORWARD.

SO EXCUSE ME.

GOD BLESS YOU. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 302 EMPLOYEES IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BOTH SWORN CIVILIAN FULL TIME AND IN OUR PART TIME EMPLOYEES.

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING OUR OVER 50 VOLUNTEERS, OUR COPS THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE OVER 300 EMPLOYEES.

AND WE'RE NOT A SMALL DEPARTMENT BY ANY BY ANY MEANS.

AND BEING THE SIZE THAT WE ARE FOR THE SIZE OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVE, IT'S EXPENSIVE.

YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GOING TO PUT IT OUT THERE.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING TODAY.

I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU, MAYOR, ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS AND AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY MANAGER, 21ST CENTURY POLICING IS EXPENSIVE TECHNOLOGY. WE HAD OUR FORENSICS UNIT AND OUR TEAM UP HERE EARLIER WITH THE PROCLAMATION FOR FORENSICS WEEK.

AND IN TERMS OF SOFTWARE, IT'S NO LONGER YOU JUST GET A PATROL VEHICLE THAT BACK THEN WAS PRETTY INEXPENSIVE WITH THE CHEVY LUMINA.

THAT'S WHAT I STARTED WITH.

AND YOU GET YOUR GUN AND YOUR BATON AND YOUR RADIO AND YOUR TICKET BOOK.

WELL, NOW WE HAVE BODY CAMERAS.

NOW WE HAVE VIDEO CAMERAS IN OUR VEHICLES.

WE HAVE SOFTWARE. WE HAVE IT.

WE HAVE COMPUTERS IN EVERY VEHICLE.

NO, NO MORE PAPER TRAIL.

IN TERMS OF PAPER REPORTS, EVERYTHING IS ELECTRONIC.

SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, TO OUTFIT A POLICE OFFICER FOR THE FIRST YEAR WITH SALARY EQUIPMENT IS A LITTLE BIT OVER $197,000.

SO THERE'S A COST TO IT.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE A CITY THAT'S GROWN.

I BELIEVE WE'VE RECEIVED A POPULATION COUNT THIS WEEK OR CLOSE TO 135,000.

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WE HAVE, OF COURSE, THE EXECUTIVE DIVISION, WE HAVE OUR INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

WE HAVE OUR SUPPORT, OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, WHICH THIS YEAR WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE ITS OWN DIVISION.

THAT'S WITH OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE UNIT, COVERS COMMUNITY POLICING, OUR YOUTH SERVICES, OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SUPPORT SERVICES AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND THEN OUR OUR VOLUNTEERS AND AUXILIARIES.

SO JUST TO TOUCH ON THE BOTTOM BOXES.

SO IT SHOWS TEN VACANCIES.

SO OF THOSE TEN VACANCIES, WHEN WE CREATED THIS POWERPOINT EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE HAD OF THOSE TEN WE OR I'M SORRY, OF THE 1016 THAT WE SHOWED THERE FOR THE SWORN SIDE OF THE HOUSE ON THE PURPLE, RED AND BLUE, THAT'S RED OR ORANGE.

DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR EYES LOOK LIKE.

WE HAVE 15 NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE POSITIONS, SO THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED TRUE VACANCIES.

SO THEY'RE EITHER IN AS YOU CAN SEE, SIX POLICE OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.

WE HAVE FOUR THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ACADEMY THAT WE SPONSORED, AND WE HAVE FIVE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN OUR BACKGROUND PROCESS.

WELL, SINCE THEN THAT LEFT US ONE TRUE VACANCY.

SINCE THEN, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, WE FILLED THAT SPOT AS WELL WITH WITH THE NAME.

SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ZERO.

NOW THAT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE RETIREMENTS OR PEOPLE GETTING RELOCATED WITH THEIR FAMILIES OR SPOUSES GETTING A JOB ELSEWHERE.

SO THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS.

NOW WITH OUR COMP SET AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR WE WERE AT 29 VACANCIES FOR POLICE.

SO WE'VE DEFINITELY IMPROVED THROUGH OUR RECRUITMENT, THROUGH OUR SPONSORSHIPS, THROUGH OUR SIGNING BONUSES, WHICH I'LL COVER HERE IN A SECOND FOR BOTH SWORN AND OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND FOR OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE SIX VACANCIES, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE NAMES ON THEM, SO THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERED TRUE VACANCIES.

THIS TIME LAST YEAR I HAD 18 VACANCIES IN OUR DISPATCH AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IT WAS MANDATORY OVERTIME THAT THEY WERE WORKING DOUBLE SHIFTS AND IT WAS PROBLEMATIC.

AND IT WAS ALSO AN ISSUE WITH OUR OUR RESPONSES.

SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 23, OUR PERSONNEL ACHIEVEMENTS CONSISTED OF FOUR PATROL OFFICERS, A WELLNESS COORDINATOR, A SPECIAL VICTIMS UNIT DETECTIVE, OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER.

SO WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO TO HELP COMBAT OUR PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR RESPONSE TIMES IN TERMS OF OUR STAFFING LEVELS, THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY, THE TRAFFIC THAT'S OUT ON THE STREETS, OUR RESPONSE TIMES GREW OR GOT HIGHER OR LONGER, I SHOULD SAY.

SO TO BETTER SUPERVISE THAT FROM A COMMUNICATION CENTER STANDPOINT, WE CREATE WE CREATED FOUR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS WITH THREE POSITIONS FOR EACH SHIFT TO HAVE ITS OWN SUPERVISOR. WE CURRENTLY HAD SUPERVISORS IN THE PAST, BUT THEY WERE ALSO DISPATCHING.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUPERVISORS THAT THEIR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY WILL BE TO SUPERVISE THAT SHIFT.

THEREFORE MONITORING.

OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? PUT THAT OUT.

HAVE THIS ONE GO TO THIS WAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? SO IT'S MONITORING AND MANAGING THE SHIFT.

THEREFORE IT'S GETTING TO THE OFFICERS QUICKER.

THEREFORE, THE OFFICERS ARE RESPONDING TO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE QUICKER.

ALSO INCLUDING WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, WE BROUGHT IN A CIVILIAN BACKGROUND INVESTIGATOR.

THAT WAS ONE OF OUR REQUESTS THAT WE NEEDED.

WE FILLED IT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

AND IT'S IT'S IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL TO WHERE NOW WE HAVE TWO BACKGROUND INVESTIGATORS THAT HELPS US IN TERMS OF OUR RECRUITMENT AND IN TERMS OF GETTING THE PAPERWORK DONE, DOING THE BACKGROUND CHECKS AND, YOU KNOW, AND AND ALL THAT.

SO IT'S TIME CONSUMING.

AND FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IT'S BEEN OFFICER SALMONS OR MAN OFFICER WATERS, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A LOT FOR ONE PERSON TO MANAGE.

SO PART OF OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE.

WE WANT TO CREATE A PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION THAT ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RETENTION TO KEEP THOSE THAT HAVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT AND WITH OUR CITY. AND WE'RE VESTED WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO KEEP THEM AND RETAIN THEM.

AND BY DOING THAT, SO WE WANTED TO CREATE.

A WAY FOR ADVANCEMENT WITHIN OUR PROFESSIONAL AREAS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF OUR RECORDS DIVISION, OUR CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS THAT WE SAW HERE EARLIER, BEFORE IT WAS ALWAYS JUST YOU WERE A CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATOR OR A CRIME SCENE TECH OR YOU WERE JUST A RECORD SPECIALIST.

NOW WE HAVE LEVELS TO WHERE THERE CAN BE THEY'RE ASSIGNED A CERTAIN AREA.

THEY'RE EITHER ASSIGNED, GIVEN A A GRADE OF RECORDS, SPECIALIST ONE OR A SENIOR RECORD SPECIALIST OR A CRIME SCENE ONE CRIME SCENE TEAM.

THERE'S LEVELS FOR GROWTH AND MOVEMENT AND ALSO INCREASE IN SALARY AS WELL.

IT GIVES THEM SOMETHING TO SHOOT FOR.

THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE INVESTING, THEY'RE INVESTING THEIR TIME AND THEIR FAMILY HERE WITH US AND THEY REMAIN WITH US BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THEM.

SO WE DID THAT FOR FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF AS WELL, WAS PART OF OUR PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

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THIS UPCOMING YEAR IS EIGHT TOTAL SWORN POSITIONS.

OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION UP UNTIL THIS POINT OVER THE LAST MONTH OR SO, WAS A PART OF OUR UNIFORMED SERVICES DIVISION.

SO WE WERE USING THE SAME MONEY, SAME TRAINING MONEY, SAME OVERTIME MONEY, SAME EVERYTHING.

SO IN ORDER TO SPLIT THEM BECAUSE WE HAD THAT STAFFING THERE, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGET, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN OVERTIME, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TRAINING.

WE CREATED THEIR OWN DIVISION IN TERMS OF THEM TAKING CARE OF WHAT THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF WITH OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCES, OUR TRAFFIC AND OUR YOUTH SERVICES AND OUR SCHOOL RESOURCES, OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE MY GLASSES, I COULD PROBABLY READ IT BETTER.

BUT I CAN'T ESTABLISH THE OUR CRIME SCENE AND EVIDENCE UNIT.

SO BRIDGET AKINS IS ONE OF OUR SUPERVISORS FOR OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

BRIDGET STARTED AS A CRIME SCENE TECH HERSELF MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, AND SHE WENT THROUGH THE RANKS AND SHE'S NOW A SUPERVISOR.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE AND WE COMBINED IT WITH CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATIONS BECAUSE IT'S ALL ONE, IT'S ALL UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA.

AND WE PUT THEM ALL UNDER OUR INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION.

SO WITH THAT, WE'RE CREATING OUR PURPOSE.

OUR DRIVE IS TO MAKE THAT A FORENSICS UNIT, GET THEM ACCREDITED, BE A PROFESSIONAL UNIT.

WITH THAT COMES TRAINING, WHICH THAT COMES ACCOLADES AND WHICH THAT SHOWS TRANSPARENCY.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS IS THAT YOU HAVE A PROFESSIONAL POLICE FORCE HERE THAT GIVES YOU NOTHING BUT TOP QUALITY.

SO THAT'S OUR GOAL, WHAT WE'RE STRIVING TO TO MOVE FORWARD AND AND PROCEED FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE, INTO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO THAT'S BIG, A BIG THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO AND ACCOMPLISH.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS WAS A BIG ONE THAT WE DID A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO WHEN I WAS UP HERE.

WE WERE 241 AT A 246IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

IN TERMS OF RANK POLICE OFFICER PER 1000 CITIZENS, WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER.

WE'RE AT 237.

OUR RATIO WENT UP SLIGHTLY TO 1.39 FROM 1.38.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, STARTING FROM 2008, YOU KNOW, WE LOST POSITIONS.

THE CITY HAS GROWN TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ALONE.

SO LITTLE BY LITTLE WE WILL GET THERE.

SO CURRENTLY THAT'S OUR CURRENT RATIO AND RANK OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE STATE IN TERMS OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE SIZE, AND THAT'S PER FDLE, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT'S. AGAIN, WE SHOWED THIS LAST YEAR AS WELL, AND THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE WE'RE AT.

DIFFERENCE IN THE RATIO THAT YOU SEE THERE, THE ONE POINT I BELIEVE THAT SAYS 1.38 IS FROM FISCAL YEAR TO FISCAL YEAR INSTEAD OF COUNTY, YEAR TO COUNTY YEAR.

WHAT FDLE SHOWS.

BUT THAT'S OUR GROWTH.

WE'RE NARROWING THE MARGIN, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS WE'RE GOING UP.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WHERE WE REALLY WERE HURTING WAS AROUND 2010 OR 20 12 TO 20 1516.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE REALLY LOST IT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE'RE GETTING THERE.

SO OUR RECRUITMENT EFFORTS.

SINUS SINUS BONUS WERE A GREAT HELP IN TERMS OF GETTING TO WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE TODAY AND CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT OUR VISION IS HERE AS A CITY AND AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE SPENT THIS PAST YEAR $129,000 IN SIGNING BONUSES AND RELOCATION MONEY.

SO IF YOU'RE COMING FROM OUT OF AREA AND YOU'RE RELOCATING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WE'RE GIVING YOU SOME MONEY TO HELP MOVE YOUR FAMILY INTO OUR CITY.

NOW, WITH THAT 19 OF THOSE VACANCIES, WE BROUGHT IN SOME SWORN INDIVIDUALS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, SIX OF THEM THAT WE ENDED UP GETTING CERTIFIED AND THEN 13 WERE CERTIFIED IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SEVEN OR 6 OR 7, I BELIEVE, WERE IN WITHIN THE COUNTY AND TWO WITHIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING THOSE INDIVIDUALS HERE WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AS OPPOSED TO WAITING FOR ACADEMY RECRUITS TO GRADUATE IS THE DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT TEN MONTHS. SO I HAVE A GRADUATE, AN ACADEMY CADET THAT GOES TO THE ACADEMY, GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE HIRING PROCESS OR WHOLE FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT 12 TO 13 MONTHS TURNAROUND.

WHEN I GET SOMEBODY, ESPECIALLY WITH IN COUNTY EXPERIENCE CERTIFIED COMING TO US, THE TURNAROUND IS ABOUT 2 TO 3 MONTHS.

SO THEY'RE OUT ON THE STREET PATROLLING OUR STREETS AND KEEPING KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFER SOONER AND BRINGING THAT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE OF BEING HOMEGROWN IN THE COUNTY. SAME THING.

SO WE TOOK THE SAME INITIATIVE AND STRATEGY WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF, WITH OUR RECORDS DIVISION AND WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.

WE HAD TO DO IT. YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO COMPETE WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, ORGANIZATIONS IN TERMS OF GETTING THE BEST OF THE BEST, WE HAVE TO COMPETE WITH THEM.

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AND IT'S SO FAR IT'S BEEN WE'VE BEEN DOING VERY WELL AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO IT UNTIL WE'RE WE'RE FILLED AT ALL SPOTS.

SO A PERSONNEL PROJECTION GROWTH TO OR TO SUSTAIN GROWTH FROM FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO FISCAL YEAR 28.

SO CURRENTLY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE AT 1.39 RATIO, YOU KNOW.

IF WE'RE ABLE TO SUSTAIN OR ACQUIRE 14 OFFICERS ANNUALLY, BETWEEN 24 TO 28, WE'LL BE ABLE AT THE END OF 28, WE'LL BE AT A 1.50 POLICE OFFICER TO 1000 RATIO.

IS THAT FEASIBLE? DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT? WE CAN WHAT WE CAN SAY IS THAT WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO MOVE BACKWARDS OR STAY STAGNANT LIKE WE WERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS PRIOR, AND I'LL PUT AN EMPHASIS ON IT MANY YEARS PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION, TO THIS COUNCIL.

OKAY. BECAUSE WE DO FEEL THE SUPPORT THAT WE'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAD WHAT WE RECEIVED LAST YEAR IN TERMS OF FUNDING FOR OUR VEHICLES AND FOR OUR SWAT VEHICLES AND FOR OUR COMMAND BUS AND FOR OUR CRISIS NEGOTIATIONS TEAM.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN MANY, MANY YEARS.

AND SO WE'RE SUPER GRATEFUL AND TRULY GRATEFUL FOR THAT, FOR THAT EFFORT.

BUT TO SUSTAIN AND TO AT LEAST GET UP TO A 1.50 RATIO BY THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 28, WE WOULD BE AT ABOUT 14 TO SUSTAIN AND MANAGE WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AT NOW, ABOUT 10 TO 12 OFFICERS PER YEAR.

NOW WITH THAT, EVERY OTHER YEAR AS WE GROW IN OUR SWORN ARENA, WE HAVE TO GROW INTERNALLY WITH OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

OUR COMM CENTER HAS GOT TO INCREASE IN STAFFING.

OUR RECORDS DIVISION WILL HAVE TO INCREASE.

AND AND SAME THING WITH OUR CRIME SCENE, SAME THING WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANCE.

YOU KNOW, IT JUST IT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY.

EXPANSION AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU KNOW, OUR BUILDING, OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING IS.

IT'S GOT SOME YEARS BEHIND IT.

YOU KNOW, IN OUR EAST SUBSTATION THAT WE HAVE ALONG ON MAIN STREET THERE BY THE BY THE TRACKS BY US, ONE, I BELIEVE WAS BUILT IN THE 60S.

UM, AND WE'RE STARTING TO FEEL THE EFFECTS OF IT BEING THE AGE OF THE BUILDING AND EMERGENCY AND URGENT TYPE OF PURCHASES THAT AND REQUESTS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR OUR BUILDING.

AND PLUS, I JUST CAN'T FIT ANYBODY IN THERE ANYMORE.

SO IF I'M LOOKING TO GROW, IT WOULD IT WOULD BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, TO BE AT A 2.31 RATIO PER THE STATE OF FLORIDA, I WOULD NEED 45 OFFICERS PER YEAR FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

A I UNDERSTAND THAT FINANCIALLY THE CITY CANNOT SUSTAIN THAT AND B, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME BECAUSE I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT WHERE I'M AT CURRENTLY AT IN TERMS OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE PD AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO WE NEED TO WORK ON, I THINK OUR NEXT STEPS AND IT WAS MENTIONED IN TERMS OF A SUBSTATION IN THE WEST END OF MALABAR.

I KNOW THERE WAS TALKS AND DISCUSSIONS IN TERMS OF THE NICKEL ROAD, THE ACTION PARK, IF THAT'S STILL WHAT IT'S CALLED FOR A SUBSTATION THERE AS WELL.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, DOWN IN THE SOUTH END OF EMERALD LAKES OR FOR AN OPERATIONAL OR SUBSTATION THERE AS WELL, FULLY OPERATIONAL. BUT WE CURRENTLY HAVE 130 PERSONNEL SWORN IN, PROFESSIONAL CIVILIAN STAFF THAT OCCUPY HEADQUARTERS BUILDINGS EVERY DAY. THAT'S WHERE THEY WORK.

AND IT WASN'T OUTFITTED FOR 130, 30 PERSONNEL TO FIT THERE.

SO SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG INITIATIVE THAT I'M GOING TO BE PUSHING AND REALLY DISCUSSING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND WITH YOURSELVES AS WELL MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S IT. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY QUESTIONS? I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE BEING COMPETITIVE THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTY.

OTHER YOU'RE RECRUITING THE TACTICS THAT YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED WITH CITY MANAGER, ENTICING SWORN OFFICERS TO ACTUALLY COME AND GET ON THE ROAD A LOT QUICKER.

AND IT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT ALL THESE VACANCIES WHEN YOU CAME BEFORE US AND TODAY IS SUCH SUCH A MINIMAL AMOUNT AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US.

THANK YOU, CHIEF. I HAVE A QUESTION.

OH, YES, SIR. GO AHEAD, SIR.

UH, FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CHIEF.

HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB.

AND AND THE RECRUITMENT AND AND BRINGING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UP TO.

TO MEET. EXCELLENT JOB.

BRINGING IT UP TO STANDARD.

BUT MY MY MAIN.

MY CONCERN IS CHIEF IS PROFESSIONAL STAFF.

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YOU KNOW, FOR DEPARTMENT TO GO, YOU GOT TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP FIGHT CRIME AND SOLVE CRIMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY, TECHNOLOGY COMING OUT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND BUT THE ONE THAT SOLVE CASES, FORENSICS AND EVIDENCE COLLECTION AND PROCESSING AND AND IF YOU'VE GOT A GOOD EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN OR FORENSIC TECHNICIAN, IT COULD IT COULD SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY AND AND AND MAKE THE CITIZENS SAFE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I LIKE I LIKE FOR YOU TO EMPHASIZE ON THAT IN THE FUTURE, THE PROFESSIONAL STAFFING.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND AND I AGREE 100%.

AND THAT THAT IS OUR FOCUS, AS BRIDGET MENTIONED, WHILE SHE WAS UP HERE.

AND THAT'S PART OF OUR FOCUS TO MAKE IT AN ACCREDITED UNIT AND BECOMING A FORENSIC UNIT BECAUSE WE DO PARTNER WITH OUR LOCAL SECRET SERVICE OFFICE AND THEY PROVIDE US AND SEND OUR OFFICERS AND OUR CRIME SCENE TECHS AND OUR DETECTIVES TO THESE LOCATIONS AND TRAININGS.

AS YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN AND APPROVED, A LOT OF OUR TRAINING REQUESTS OUT OF AREA ARE FOR THOSE HIGH DOLLAR OR HIGH TECHNOLOGY, YOU KNOW, FORENSIC TYPE TRAINING.

AND SO THAT'S WE'RE ABSOLUTELY LEANING TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION.

SO THANK YOU.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YES. MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YOU WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD, BRING THE FIRE CHIEF.

YES, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP FIRE CHIEF RICHARD STOVER TO DO HIS PRESENTATION.

HELLO, EVERYONE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US OUT HERE TONIGHT, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MISS SHERMAN, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON WHAT'S TAKING PLACE SINCE THE LAST TIME WE WERE OUT HERE.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A BASICALLY A REORGANIZATION WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE IN PLACE, AND WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT MOVING FORWARD OR ADDING ADDITIONAL ONES AND MOVING FORWARD TO BETTER IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICE WE PROVIDE TO THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF PALM BAY.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER HERE IS THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WHAT WE KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT THE MOMENT AND WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO AND.

OKAY. THESE ARE THE AREAS WE'RE GOING TO COVER.

AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS PRETTY MUCH LAST YEAR.

THIS IS KIND OF JUST AN UPDATE TO WHAT WAS THERE LAST YEAR.

AND WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS AS A CITY GROWS, AS A POPULATION INCREASES, WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE CALL VOLUME, INCREASES THE POPULATION.

WHAT IS THE TRAVEL TIME NOW? AND WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES TONIGHT ABOUT DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY WHERE TRAVEL TIME IS A MESS.

THAT IMPACTS OUR SERVICE DELIVERY GREATLY.

THE LOCATIONS OF OUR STATIONS ARE DETERMINED ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

HOW MANY UNITS WE HAVE COMING OUT OF A FIRE STATION, ALL THAT'S TAKEN INTO PLAY WHEN WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE DIFFERENT STATIONS.

AND IT'S NOT CHEAP, AS YOU WILL SEE THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM HERE, A SINGLE STATION, IF WE STAFF IT, WE BUILD IT, WE STAFF IT CORRECTLY AND WE EQUIP IT CORRECTLY, CAN CAN COST THE CITY ANYWHERE FROM NINE TO PROBABLY UP TO ABOUT $13 MILLION, DEPENDING ON WHAT EQUIPMENT AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WITHIN THOSE BUILDINGS. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE WE DETERMINE THIS.

WE'RE WORKING ON SOME IMPROVED TOOLS ON HOW WE DO OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

WE'VE ESTABLISHED A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GIS TEAM HERE IN THE CITY THAT'S ALLOWED US TO MOVE FROM JUST LOOKING BASICALLY AT LIKE FIVE MILES OUT, TEN MILES OUT, THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE ROADS, HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO GET THERE BASED ON THE TIME OF DAY, THE TRAFFIC, THE THE LAYOUT OF THE LAND, WHERE DOES THE ROADS GO? HOW DO THEY TURN THE SPEED LIMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? ALL THAT'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, AND YOU SAW THIS LAST YEAR, THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS SHOWS YOU HOW MANY TIMES EACH ONE OF THESE UNITS HAS WENT TO A CALL AND THERE'S BEEN A DUPLICATE OR A SECOND CALL WITHIN THEIR ZONE, WITHIN THEIR NORMAL ZONE, THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE EXTREMELY HIGH.

DOUBLE TAP IS THE TERM, I BELIEVE.

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THOSE ARE THOSE.

WE'RE WORKING HARD.

THE CREWS ARE OUT THERE.

I'M TELLING YOU, I'VE WORKED I'VE WORKED IN THE SERVICE FOR A LONG TIME.

YOU GOT SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE SERVICE RIGHT HERE IN THIS CITY.

AND THEY ARE LOYAL AND THEY ARE DEDICATED TO THIS ORGANIZATION.

AND I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY DO THEIR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE NUMBERS DON'T HURT THE CITIZENS THAT THEY'RE HERE TO SERVE.

SO WHILE WE HAVE THOSE ISSUES, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS REDUCING THOSE NUMBERS, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AND I'VE JUST BRIEFLY COVERED IT IN THE COST IS THE STATION.

WE'RE GOING THROUGH A STATION EXPANSION RIGHT NOW.

YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD AT GETTING US THE MONEY WE NEED FOR STATION SEVEN.

WE ARE FULLY FUNDED WITH THAT.

NOW, I KNOW YOU GUYS WENT THROUGH A LOT TO GET US THAT MONEY SO THAT IT'S EQUIPPED OR SO THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT AND PROPERLY EQUIPPED.

ALONG WITH THAT COMES THE STAFFING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

WE'RE SET TO GO AS SOON AS THAT STATION OPENS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINED, THE EQUIPMENT IN PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE UTILIZED FOR THAT AREA.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENS IN THAT AREA ARE GOING TO LOVE.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROUD TO BE OUT THERE THAT DAY WHEN WE DO THE GRAND OPENING, DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE AS WE MOVE IT.

I DON'T WANT TO I'M GOING TO HIT REAL QUICK HERE.

FOCUS ON THIS. ONE AREA IS THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS CITY IS THAT AN ENGINE? IS IT A LADDER? DO WE PUT A SQUAD, WHICH IS THE THE MINIATURE THE LIKE A QUICK RESPONSE ALS RESPONSE VEHICLE? WHAT ARE WE PUTTING IN THERE? ARE WE PUTTING DISTRICT CHIEFS? WE HAVE TO NOW, AS WE MOVE SOUTH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD TWO MORE BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A TOTAL BUILD OUT WITHIN THE CITY OF APPROXIMATELY 12 TO 13 STATIONS BASED ON WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WITH THE COMPOUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE GET IN.

OUR EQUIPMENT IS AND YOU'VE HEARD THIS THROUGHOUT TONIGHT, NOTHING IS CHEAP ANYMORE.

WE'RE GOING TO SEE A SLIDE IN HERE THAT SHOWS WHAT THE TRUCKS ARE THAT WE JUST HEARD THAT YOU HAD JUST FUNDED FOR US, THAT WE JUST RECEIVED AND HAVE JUST PUT IN PLACE AND HOW MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE THEY ARE NOW BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING GOING ON AROUND US.

STATION SEVEN AGAIN, AS AS WE TALKED ABOUT HERE, THAT'S IN PROCESS.

WE ARE EXPECTED TO DO THE GROUNDBREAKING, I BELIEVE IT'S THE FIRST QUARTER OF THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WE'RE DOING GOOD ON THAT THERE.

I'M HOPING THAT IT'LL BE BETWEEN THE 18 AND 24 MONTHS BUILD TIME, HOPEFULLY SOONER, BUT WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR US.

AND YOU'VE BEEN IN THE PAST, YOU'VE HEARD STATION NUMBERS IN THE LAST ONE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR PRETTY MUCH THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT IS STATION SEVEN, BECAUSE THE WAY THEY FLUX IN WHICH ONE GOES UP NEXT, I COULD TELL YOU IT'S STATION EIGHT TONIGHT AND THEN COME BACK A COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM NOW AND STATION EIGHT MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.

SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO IDENTIFY THE NEXT STATIONS OF OUR PRIORITY LIST AND BY THE AREA OF THE CITY THAT THEY'RE WITHIN.

AND YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT ACTUALLY THE NEXT THREE EMERALD LAKES, THE ONE OVER ON MALABAR, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT ALSO.

BUT THE ASHTON PARK, THOSE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME COMPONENTS WHERE THE THE DEVELOPERS, AS YOU KNOW, ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING SOME STATIONS FOR US ALSO.

BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

THAT'S STILL IN FLUX.

WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY UNCOVERED SOUTH END OF THE CITY THAT HAS RESPONSE TIMES OF UP TO 15 MINUTES FOR A FIRE TRUCK.

IF THAT'S IF EVERYTHING IS WORKING GREAT AND THE PEOPLE ARE IN THE FIRE STATION, IT'S A TIME OF DAY WHEN THEY'RE NOT ASLEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND THEY CAN GO IMMEDIATELY IF THEY'RE WORKING ANOTHER CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT 15 MINUTES IS GOING TO BE LONGER.

SO YOU'LL SEE IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY WILL BE ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES.

SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HERE WITH STATION SIX, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY.

WE ALL WE NEED TO DO IS BUILD THE FACILITY.

AND I SAY THAT'S ALL. BUT THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

STATION TO. RIGHT.

RIGHT OUT FRONT HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT BRIEFLY.

BUT ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THERE IS THERE'S A FIRE STATION THERE, BUT IT IS SO OLD AND IT'S NOT A HEALTHY BUILDING.

THAT IS NOT A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO BE LIVE AGAIN, ESPECIALLY 24 HOURS A DAY.

SO WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH US, WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US WHEN YOU FUNDED THE STATION SEVEN PROJECT, IS YOU LOOK THERE, THAT'S THE SAME MAP.

AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT UP IN THE UPPER CORNER UP THERE WHERE IT WAS ALL THE ORANGE AND THE RED AND STUFF, ALL THAT'S GOING AWAY NOW WITH SEVEN.

THAT'S THE IMPACT, THE IMPACT THAT YOU HAVE.

EVERY TIME YOU BUILD A STATION SOMEWHERE IN THE CITY, YOU TAKE AWAY ALL THAT RED, WHICH IS A DELAYED OR A LONG RESPONSE TIME AND YOU REDUCE IT TO SOMETHING THAT'S ACCEPTABLE. NATIONAL STANDARDS PUT US AT ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RESPONSE TIME IN THE AREAS WHERE WHERE WE ARE SATURATED.

I WILL SAY SATURATED.

WE'RE GOOD WITH STATIONS AT THE MOMENT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.

IT'S ONCE WE GET TO THE SOUTH END AND WE START GOING SOUTH THAT WE START LOSING THOSE NATIONAL AVERAGES AND MAINTAINING WHAT STANDARDS SHOULD BE.

STATION SEVEN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL HAVE DONE TO GET THE STATION FULLY FUNDED AND HELP US GET THAT MOVING.

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I SAW TODAY WE'RE GETTING READY TO START GETTING SOME PERMITTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT DONE AND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT IT WAS FUNDED THROUGH THE LADDER TRUCK THAT'LL BE ASSIGNED THERE WAS THROUGH THE CDBG GRANT, THE IMPACT FEES FOR SOME OF THE STATION AND THEN GENERAL FUNDS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE STATION.

WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IS THE LATTER.

WITH FOUR PEOPLE, THE SQUAD WOULD HAVE TWO PEOPLE AND THE BRUSH TRUCK WILL BE THERE, BUT IT'LL BE STAFFED BY PEOPLE ON THE ENGINE OR THE SQUAD, DEPENDING UPON WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT HAVING 12 PEOPLE THERE.

THAT'S NOT COUNTING BRINGING IN THE COUNTY SALES UNIT, WHICH WILL HAVE TWO MORE PEOPLE.

SO AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HIGH DOLLAR ITEM, BUT WHAT IT GIVES YOU IN THE BENEFIT OF A REDUCED RESPONSE TIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT CAN'T BE MEASURED, WE'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT ON THE NUMBERS OF WHAT WE PROJECT WILL BE IN STATION SEVEN SO FAR THIS YEAR.

YOU SEE THERE, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BELOW, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT TIME OF YEAR IT IS AND WHAT WE'RE GOING INTO, THAT'LL PRETTY MUCH GET RIGHT BACK UP TO THE 2000 MARK.

WE'RE NOT WE DON'T DOUBT THAT AT ALL.

IF IT DOESN'T EXCEED IT, THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT THAT KIND OF SHOW WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU HERE.

THE IMPACT HAVING A STATION HAS IS YOU'LL SEE DOWN THERE, FIRE STATION ONE IS DOWN THERE ABOUT THE MID SECTION OF THE SCREEN FIRE STATION SEVEN UP THERE.

WHILE THEY LOOK CLOSE, REALLY TRAFFIC DRIVE TIME, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR BEING CLOSE ENOUGH.

SO THAT IT'S JUST AN UNBELIEVABLY HUGE IMPACT WHENEVER YOU DO THAT.

AND THE PEOPLE THAT FEEL IT THE MOST ARE THE CITIZENS THAT ARE CALLING FOR THE SERVICES.

THE NEXT STATION IS ONE OF THE ONES DOWN IN EMERALD LAKES POSSIBILITY OF BEING A DEVELOPER BUILT STATION.

BUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE, AND THIS IS WHERE WE START GETTING INTO BIGGER AND PROJECTED COSTS.

I JUST WANT TO STRESS, AS WE ALL KNOW, THAT'S A PROJECTED COST BY THE TIME WE START TURNING AROUND, GETTING THIS THING MOVING, IT COULD BE UP TO ABOUT 10 MILLION TO GET THIS DONE. BUT AS WE KNOW, WE GO IN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE A BIGGER STATION.

SO IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN ENGINE AND A LADDER THAT THOSE PIECES OF APPARATUS ARE BASED ON, THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE AND THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT AREA.

THAT'LL BE WHERE WE HAVE OUR THIRD DISTRICT OFFICE.

SO THAT MEANS THE STATION'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

SO THERE'S A HOUSING AREA, THERE'S A AREA WITHIN THE STATION TO HOUSE THE DISTRICT CHIEF.

THE NUMBERS, YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING THE NUMBERS.

FROM THIS POINT OUT, I'VE CHANGED HOW WE STAFF BEFORE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT JUST A A SEAT POSITION THAT THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE TO AN ENGINE.

WE ONLY ASKED FOR FOUR PEOPLE.

WHAT THAT DOES ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS IT MESSES UP OUR OVERTIME.

IT REALLY TAKES TO WHERE WE'RE NOT COVERING, WE'RE NOT PLANNING TO COVER FOR THE OVERTIME THAT WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW IS GOING TO BE THERE.

SO WE START WE USE A FORMULA WHERE WE'RE ADDING ABOUT ONE AND A HALF, TWO PEOPLE AND THAT COVERS THAT HELPS US REDUCE THE OVERTIME AT A LESSER COST THAN PAYING OUT THE OVERTIME. SO AS YOU NOTICE, YOU'LL SEE THIS JUST A HEADS UP.

SO YOU'RE NOT ASKING WHY THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS BECAUSE WE'RE STARTING TO TRY AND PLAN AHEAD OF TIME TO HELP IMPACT TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF OVERTIME.

AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COUNTY UNIT DOWN THERE IN ALS TRANSPORT DOWN THERE.

AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MAP, ANOTHER WAY OF SHOWING YOU THE RESPONSE TIME IMPACT.

EVERY TIME YOU TAKE AND YOU BUILD A FIRE STATION WITHIN THE CITY.

NOW, SOME OF THE AREA THE YOU SEE THE GREEN AREAS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE YELLOW AREA THERE, AS THOSE AREAS ARE BUILT OUT AND THERE'S ACTUAL ROADWAYS PUT IN THERE, YOU'LL START SEEING THAT TURN GREEN.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST THE DIFFICULTY OF GETTING TO WHAT MIGHT BE IN THAT AREA.

STATION OUT HERE AT MALABAR AND HERITAGE PARKWAY.

BASIC STATION.

WE ALREADY HAVE THE COOKIE CUTTER PLAN THAT WE'RE USING STATION SEVEN FOR.

AGAIN, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WILL PROBABLY GO UP FOR THE COST JUST BECAUSE OF HOW CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS ARE GOING LIKE THAT.

THE BASIC LAYOUT OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE ON PUTTING INTO THAT STATION.

NOW, YOU'LL AGAIN, YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S ANOTHER ALS.

TRANSPORT UNIT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY PAY PAY INTO THE COUNTY TO RECEIVE THIS SERVICE SO IT'S TO THEIR BENEFIT AND OURS THAT THEY'RE HOUSED IN THE SAME STATION.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE A SORT OF LIKE A DOUBLE TAXATION TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR A STATION, ALTHOUGH THEY'VE ALREADY PAID FOR THE SERVICE.

SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

AND THERE WE HAVE AN UNBELIEVABLY GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COUNTY AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE STARTING TO PUT MORE UNITS INTO MORE OF OUR STATIONS AS WE HAVE THE ROOM TO DO THAT. AND THIS HERE IS JUST THE MAP FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA OUT HERE OFF MALABAR ON THE WEST END, AGAIN SHOWING YOU WHAT HAPPENS, THE POSITIVE IMPACT THAT HAS.

AND AGAIN, THE SAME THING THERE, THE LIGHT YELLOW AROUND THE GREEN, THAT'LL TURN GREEN AS SOON AS WE START PUTTING MORE ROADWAYS IN THERE.

ASHTON PARK. WE HEARD THAT TONIGHT.

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THAT'LL BE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S GOING TO DEPENDING ON WHEN THAT GOES IN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

ONE OF MY OTHER NEEDS WOULD BE TO PUT SOMETHING IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S NOT A DEVELOPER LOOKING AT BUILDING STATIONS TO GET SOME IMMEDIATE SERVICE DOWN IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF SOME OF THE STRUCTURES, PLUS THE LONG RESPONSE TIME FOR EMERGENCY MEDICAL CALLS.

AGAIN, THIS IS BASICALLY HOW WE WOULD SET THOSE UP.

WE JUST SPOKE ABOUT FIRST QUARTER OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR STATION SEVEN.

GREAT BREAKING GROUND.

STATION TWO RIGHT OUT FRONT OF CITY HALL HERE.

IT'S A I BELIEVE IT WAS A 60S BUILDING.

IT'S BEEN ADDED ON.

IT'S HAD ALL KINDS OF SEWAGE PROBLEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE LIVING THERE, WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE STATION, WHILE THE WHILE THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM, YOU YOU WALK INTO THE STATION, YOU GET YOU GET THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHY PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE LIVING IN THAT STATION.

THE THE CREWS AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD TO TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT'S LOOKING AT THIS AND GOING, WOW, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY FOR FOR A FIRE TRUCK OR FOR A STATION OR WHY DO WE NEED TO WORRY ABOUT A NEW THING? OUR PRIORITY IS SAVING THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THIS CITY.

BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND THEY ARE THEY ARE GIVEN THE BEST TURNOUT GEAR.

THEY ARE GIVEN THE BEST BENEFITS OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO SAFELY DO THEIR JOB.

PROPER EQUIPMENT AND BEING ABLE TO DO IT TO SET OUR SYSTEM UP IN A MANNER THAT ALLOWS US TO RESPOND TO A CALL IN A NORMAL FASHION, NOT WHERE THEY GET THIS HIGH PRIORITY CALL.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, WE HAVE TO STEP IT UP A LITTLE BIT, INCREASING OUR DANGEROUS RESPONSE TIMES BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD SOMETHING IN A CERTAIN AREA OR THEY NEED TO GET THERE BECAUSE THERE'S STATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THAT AREA THAT ARE OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE THEY'RE ON ANOTHER CALL.

THEY'RE A TRAINING, THEY'RE DOING STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE.

AND BY TAKING CARE OF THOSE PEOPLE, THEN WE TURN AROUND AND WE PROVIDE THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE TO THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THE CITY.

SO ONE OF MY OTHER PRIORITIES WOULD BE TO COMPLETELY DEMOLISH STATION TWO AND REBUILD IT.

I THINK WE COULD DO IT ON THIS PROPERTY HERE AND JUST GO UP, PUT THEIR LIVING QUARTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT UPSTAIRS.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT AND PUTTING A BUILDING OR A STATION IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY ARE TWO EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES FOR FOR FOR THE CURRENT FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION. STATION TWO AND SIX.

WE JUST COVERED TWO.

WE HAVE THE PROPERTY AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING AT HERE IS SOME AREAS WE HAVE PROPERTY, OTHERS WE DON'T.

SIX WE HAVE THE PROPERTY, SO WE CAN DO SOME OF THESE THINGS A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER.

BUT PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OR THE TOTAL COST OF A FIRE STATION BEING BUILT ISN'T GOING TO BE THAT BIG OF AN IMPACT.

JUST SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE ASKED FOR IN THIS UPCOMING NEXT FIVE YEAR RUN.

YOU SEE THE APPARATUS THERE.

IT'S 2.5 MILLION.

THAT'S FOR TWO TRUCKS. I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S HAPPENED TO OUR TRUCKS JUST OVER THE PAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

A SQUAD, THOSE ARE TWO SQUADS RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE TAKING HAND-ME-DOWN VEHICLES, VEHICLES THAT WERE DECLARED NOT FIT TO BE USED.

FRONTLINE FOR DISTRICT CHIEFS ARE NOW BEING UTILIZED TO RESPOND TO CALLS THAT THEY RESPOND QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THE DISTRICTS DID WHEN THEY RESPONDED IN THAT VERY SAME VEHICLE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING THEM BETTER, BETTER EQUIPPED AND BETTER SUITED FOR THE EXACT TASKS THAT THEY'RE BEING GIVEN TO ACCOMPLISH.

WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME DISTRICT CHIEF VEHICLES, THE DISTRICT ONE ONE.

WE NEED TWO DISTRICT CHIEF VEHICLES.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY I CAN PUT IT.

THEY'RE NOT REALLY MEANT TO BE.

A DISTRICT CHIEF VEHICLE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST, IT'S MORE OF AN OFFICE AND A MOBILE COMMAND CENTER.

THIS IS WHERE THESE DISTRICT CHIEFS, THEY LIVE OUT OF THIS VEHICLE.

THEY'RE CONSTANTLY RUNNING FROM STATION TO STATION.

THEY'RE GOING FROM CALL TO CALL WHEN THEY GET TO A CALL, THEY HAVE STUFF IN THE BACK OF THEIR VEHICLE THAT MAKES IT A MOBILE COMMAND CENTER.

THEY HAVE STUFF UP FRONT WITH THEIR COMPUTERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S NOT A TYPICAL PICKUP TRUCK.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S A PICKUP TRUCK WITH LIGHTS ON IT.

THERE'S A LOT OF ELECTRONICS AND THINGS IN THERE THAT MAKE THE FIREGROUND SAFER.

AND ONE OF THE ASKS THAT WE JUST RECENTLY PUT IN FOR AND WE'RE HOPING YOU WILL APPROVE TONIGHT, IS SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A $10,000 PAC TRACKER.

OUR NEW AIR PACKS HAVE BEEN DESIGNED SO THAT WITH THIS PAC TRACKER, THESE TWO DISTRICT VEHICLES WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE.

AND AS WE'RE WORKING IN AN INCIDENT AND SOMEBODY INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE BUILDING.

AND I CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH AIR IS LEFT IN THEIR BOTTLE SO I KNOW WHEN TO START BRINGING THEM BACK OUT OF THE BUILDING BEFORE THEY START RUNNING INTO PROBLEMS THAT THEY'RE TRYING

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WE WANT TO STAY IN THERE AND DO THE JOB.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO BE COACHED TO GET OUT A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, COME ON, IT'S TIME.

YOU GOT TO GET OUT HERE. THIS HELPS US DO THAT AND LOCATE SHOULD SOMETHING HAPPEN.

SO THIS IS JUST THE BASIC LIST.

AND YOU'VE SEEN THE LIST.

I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTION ON WHAT THEY DO OR HOW THEY DO IT OR WHAT YOU WANT TO KNOW.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT FOR YOU.

I THINK THE MORE YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT, THE BETTER EXTRICATION TOOLS WE'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 40 TO 40 TO $45,000 A PIECE.

SOME OF THESE TOOLS THAT WE HAVE ARE 15 OR 16 YEARS OLD.

YOU CAN ONLY MAINTAIN THEM SO LONG THEY NEED REPLACED.

THAT'S IN THE BUDGET. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH WHEN YOU'RE OUT, WHEN YOU'RE OUT ON I 95 TRYING TO EXTRICATE PEOPLE FROM A CALL AND THERE WAS A FAILURE.

IT'S NOT JUST EMBARRASSING, IT'S PREVENTING US FROM GETTING THE PEOPLE OUT OF THE VEHICLE.

SO SO AGAIN, WE ARE A HIGH VALUE.

WE ARE A HIGH TICKET FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OUR DEPARTMENT I'M SORRY.

EVERY FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THE SAME WAY.

AND YOU'LL SEE IN HERE SOME OF THE SMALL THINGS LIKE SHED THE SHED.

THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE TRAINING CENTER SO WE CAN PUT OUR PEOPLE UNDERNEATH SHADE WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE DOING THEIR MINIMUM TRAININGS OR THEIR MINIMUM STANDARDS TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS A NEW RECRUIT FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAINTAIN OUR SERVICE DELIVERY.

AND BY DOING THAT AND BY REORGANIZING AND LOOKING AT SOME THINGS DIFFERENTLY THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST, TRYING TO BECOME MORE COMMUNITY FOCUSED WHILE PROVIDING THE SAME LEVEL OR A HIGHER LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE JUST WE HAVE TO ASK FOR.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT BETTER? ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HOW THE IMPACT FEES WORK AND THAT THAT THAT HELPS US OUT QUITE A BIT.

WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF DOING A A REVIEW OF THOSE THINGS AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL HELP US GET A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THOSE SO THAT WE CAN USE MORE OF THOSE.

IN GENERAL, REVENUE GROWTH NEEDS TO PAY FOR ITSELF.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN THE ROOM WILL ARGUE THAT THE MORE WE CAN GET THE NEW AREAS TO PAY FOR THEIR OWN INFRASTRUCTURE, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THE CITY AS LONG AS THEY HAVE AND THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO FUND ALL THE NEW STUFF.

LET'S SEE HERE WE THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

YOU'VE SEEN A COPY OF THAT, HOW WE'RE FIVE YEARS OUT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE AND EVERYTHING TAKES TIME.

THAT'S NO BIG SURPRISE TO ANY OF US.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE HAVING IS WE JUST RECEIVED TWO ENGINE COMPANIES, ENGINE TWO AND ENGINE THREE THAT YOU FUNDED FOR US AT A PRICE OF 572 ON JANUARY OF 22.

ON MARCH OF 22, THAT SAME EXACT ENGINE WENT UP TO 608.

TODAY, THAT ENGINE IS NOW 900.

AND YOUR PAPERWORK, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IT AS $937,000 FOR A PLANE TRUCK, NOTHING IN IT.

I GOT PAPERWORK PRIOR TO COMING OVER HERE.

THAT'S NOW $942,000 FOR THE PLAIN TRUCK.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE APPROXIMATE 250 TO $300,000 OF EQUIPMENT WE NEED TO PUT ON IT.

WHY SO MUCH A LIFE PACK? $45,000. THE LUCAS TOOL THAT DOES THE COMPRESSIONS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT 20,000.

WE JUST RECENTLY GOT PURCHASED.

SOME OF THOSE AT 13,000.

THAT'S A $7,000 INCREASE.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE WAY OUT OF OUR CONTROL, BUT THEY'RE NECESSITIES.

SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE RUNNING INTO, THE NEW TRUCKS WITH, THE NEW TRUCKS WE HAVE FOR WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT NEED REPLACED OVER THE NEXT 3 TO 4 YEARS, THEY WILL THEY WILL HAVE EXCEEDED THEIR TEN YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE US UP TO 30 BETWEEN 36 AND 48 MONTHS TO GET THE TRUCK BUILT.

USED TO BE LESS THAN A YEAR.

I TURN AROUND AND SAY, TODAY I WANT THE TRUCK.

TEN, 11 MONTHS LATER, I GOT THE TRUCK.

NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS OUT, DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF TRUCK WE'RE DOING.

NOT ONLY THAT, WE'RE HAVING FEDERAL MANDATES THAT COME UPON US, LIKE YOU'LL SEE THERE, THE EPA MOTOR OF THIS NEW PRICE, $135,000 IS BECAUSE WE'RE BEING FEDERALLY MANDATED TO USE A DIFFERENT ENGINE OR AN UPGRADED ENGINE, I SHOULD SAY, FOR FOR THE EPA.

AND I GET IT.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FOR THAT.

BUT SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE QUITE EXPENSIVE.

THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT CAN WE BUY INDIVIDUALLY FOR 134,000? THAT'S AN UPGRADE TO THE CURRENT ENGINE, THE JUST THE MOTOR WITHIN THAT ENGINE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FACING.

WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN NOW.

WE'RE SHIFTING MORE NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY SIDE OF LOOKING AT THINGS AND TRYING TO GET OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY MORE FREQUENTLY, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING DEEPER INTO THE DATA AND TRYING TO TRYING TO PLAN FURTHER OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF WE CAN CATCH OURSELVES A COST SAVINGS NOW, WE START THE PROCESS NOW AND SAVE THAT MONEY.

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I MADE IT AS QUICK AS I COULD.

ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO START OFF WITH A COMMENT.

I REALLY ENJOYED THE PRESENTATION.

I LIKED THE DETAIL AND THE ASPECT OF THE ANALYSIS THAT BEING PLAYED INTO DOWN RANGE, LONG RANGE, HOW YOU YOU MANEUVER THINGS. I WAS REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF HOW YOU ARE PROJECTING THE RESPONSE TIMES AND AND EQUATE THAT TO OPENING UP A STATION, HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT IS.

EVERY SECOND COUNTS.

AS YOU SAID, THE RESPONSE TIMES ARE SO HIGH.

I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT.

STATION TWO IS AN EXTREMELY HIGH PRIORITY.

HOW DO YOU HOW'S AS AS AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU DEMOLISH THAT, RIGHT.

HOW DO YOU HOW'S THE INDIVIDUALS TO PROVIDE SERVICES WITHIN THIS AREA? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD FIRST OFF AND.

WE'D HAVE TO DO THIS CAUTIOUSLY IS YOU COULD GO IN AND PUT SOME MOBILE HOMES IN THERE, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION TRAILERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

PROBABLY NOT GOING TO WORK BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON THE SAME SITE.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE LESS AREA FOR THEM TO WORK AND DO THEIR STUFF.

I WOULD RECOMMEND LOOKING AT SOMETHING AND I'VE DONE THIS IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE GONE OUT AND WE'VE JUST RENTED AN AIRBNB.

AS SIMPLE AS IT SOUNDS, YOU GET A HOME AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY A DEVELOPER'S MODEL HOME.

THEY TURNED AROUND AND THEY LEASED IT TO US.

IT WAS CHEAP FOR RESCUE UNITS AND WE JUST PUT A CANOPY UP OVER THE TOP OUTSIDE TO PUT THE VEHICLES UNDER.

NOW YOU'RE BASICALLY LIVING IN A HOME FOR THAT PROBABLY 2 TO 3 YEAR PERIOD.

AND IT KEEPS YOU WITHIN THE AREA THAT THE UNITS ARE CURRENTLY SERVING.

IT'S NOT THE BEST, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN PUTTING THEM IN A TRAILER AND HAVING ISSUES THERE.

RVS ARE RIDICULOUS.

I MEAN, YOU GO OUT, TAKE YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT EVEN A WEEK INTO GOING OUT WITH FAMILY IN AN RV, AND YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, I NEED TO GET OUT OF THIS THING ALL THE TIME.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE'VE GONE SO FAR AS TO PUT THEM IN HOTELS AT TIMES.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT WE CAN FIND IN THE AREA AT THAT POINT.

COPY THAT. WELL, THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS, SIR. CONGRATULATIONS ON BECOMING CHIEF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.

AND AGAIN, I THANK DEPUTY MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, I WOULD ECHO THE SAME THING.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION.

IT'S THERE'S SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT A DETAIL.

I MEAN, WE WE UP HERE, WE WE UNDERSTAND WE KNOW SOME OF THE STRUGGLE.

WE UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE GOOD POSITIVE.

BUT BEING ABLE TO TO HAVE A CHANCE TO LISTEN AND TO SEE IT IN DETAIL, THAT GREAT DETAIL IS TRULY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE COULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING IF IT WASN'T FOR THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF YOU UP THERE.

SO WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

I LOVE THE DATA DRIVEN ATTITUDE.

LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED, CHIEF AND AGAIN, I'LL ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID.

CONGRATULATIONS. I'M GOING TO GIVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YES. YES. MAYOR, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.

CHIEF, I WANT TO THANK YOUR MEN AND WOMEN FOR RESPONDING TO MY HOUSE THIS YEAR.

THAT CAME ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS, SAVING MY LIFE.

I. IT'S OUR PLEASURE.

AND YOU WERE YOU WERE GREETED BY SOME OF THE BEST THERE IS IN THE BUSINESS.

WELL, YEAH.

AND THE PROFESSIONALISM OF YOUR MEN AND WOMEN AND THEIR TRAINING IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO.

IT ACCUSES THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.

AND I WOULDN'T I REALLY WOULDN'T BE ALIVE TODAY IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THEM.

I APPRECIATE THE JOB YOU'RE DOING.

MY THING.

MY. MY CONCERN IS TRAINING, MAKING SURE THEY GET THE BEST TRAINING, WHETHER IT'S FIRE OR MEDICS TYPE TRAINING.

TRAINING IS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN IT COMES TO SAVING LIVES.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROMOTION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND TRAINING.

WE ALSO ARE WORKING AND I FAILED TO MENTION THIS.

I APOLOGIZE.

WE ARE WORKING ON REESTABLISHING OUR TRAINING DIVISION WITHIN THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT'S HUGE.

AND IT'S BEEN DONE, BUT JUST NOT AS EFFICIENT AS IT COULD BE.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, TOO.

THANK YOU. YEAH. TO INCLUDE COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING INTO THE SMOKEHOUSE HERE PRETTY SOON.

CARRY ON, CHIEF. WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE YOUR WISHES.

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THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU TO BOTH CHIEFS.

APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE BRIEF.

SO GETTING BACK TO THE A LIST OF ITEMS I'M GOING TO GO OVER GO OVER PART OF IT, VERY HIGH LEVEL.

SO SHOULD WE SHOULD WE BEGIN WITH.

PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY COMPLETING MY PRESENTATION.

OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU DON'T MIND.

YEAH. SO FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT WE'VE INCLUDED IN THIS LIST, WE HAVE 27 MARKED PATROL VEHICLE REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.

WE HAVE ANOTHER 11 DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD ALSO BE REPLACEMENTS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.

THEN THERE'S A VARIETY OF POLICE EQUIPMENT THAT IS IN YOUR LIST.

REGARDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ONE OF OUR HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS IS WE NEED TO REPLACE ALL OF OUR RADIOS IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO BE P 25 COMPLIANT, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY NEXT YEAR. SO THAT'S ABOUT $800,000 IN REQUESTS RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN SOME OF THE LISTS OF THINGS THAT YOU SEE OR YOU SAW IN CHIEF STOVER'S PRESENTATION IS WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE LIST.

THE ONE THING I WILL TELL YOU THAT HAS CHANGED AND YOU HAVE A HARD COPY OF THIS IN FRONT OF YOU IS WE HAVE AN ITEM IN HERE FOR ABOUT $97,000 IN AIR PACK REPLACEMENTS.

AND WE'VE LEARNED WE THOUGHT THEY WERE FUNDED UNDER CDBG.

WE THOUGHT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EXPEND THE CDBG DOLLARS BASED ON DELIVERY TIMEFRAME FOR THOSE ITEMS. AS IT TURNS OUT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN EXTENSION AND SO WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT $98,000 AND CHANGE.

SO THE LIST THAT WAS UP HERE TONIGHT IS A LIST OF ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING.

IT'S ABOUT $97,750 IN ADDITIONAL ITEMS. AND IT INCLUDES THE THE PACK TRACKERS THAT CHIEF MENTIONED AND A VARIETY OF OTHER REALLY SMALLER BUT IMPORTANT EQUIPMENT ITEMS ALSO FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE EQUIPMENT DETAILS, WE HAVE IMPORTANT EMS TRAINING THAT WE COMMITTED TO DO EACH YEAR.

SO THAT IS INCLUDED AS WELL.

AND THEN ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF NON CAPITAL ITEMS THAT IS IN HERE THAT I BRIEFED YOU ALL ON IS THE SHIFTING AND CORRECTING OF THE PLACEMENT IN THE PAY STRUCTURE OF OUR FIRE COMMAND LEADERSHIP POSITION.

SO THAT ALL GETS ADJUSTED WITH THIS.

AND THEN JUST TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

THAT WAS THE BULK AS I SAID, IT'S ABOUT 4 MILLION OF THE $6 MILLION LIST.

WE HAVE A VARIETY OF IMPORTANT THINGS WE NEED TO DO IN THE IT WORLD, INCLUDING REPLACEMENT LAPTOPS FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT IS OUR OVERALL INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY WIDE SECURITY POSITION WITH REGARD TO CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL.

WE HAVE PARKS, FACILITIES, ITEMS. WE HAVE 20 PLUS YEAR OLD VEHICLES THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON REPLACING IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

SO WE'VE GOT SEVERAL OF THOSE IN THERE, SIGNIFICANT ITEMS THAT ARE VERY COSTLY TO DO, BUT NEEDED TO CONTINUE.

OUR INVESTMENT IN IMPROVING THE THE PARKS THEMSELVES INCLUDES THE REPLACEMENT OF THE FRED LEE PARK TENNIS COURTS, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE PLAYGROUND AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

THAT CONTINUES OUR PLAN TO TO UPDATE OUR OLDER PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE NEW VEHICLE IN THE PARKS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT THAT IS FOR A NEW TRADE WORKER POSITION THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED IN PUBLIC WORKS.

WE ARE CONTINUING OUR EFFORTS TO REPLACE TRAFFIC SPAN WIRES.

SO EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT HAVE OLD SPAN WIRE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED AND OVERHAULED.

WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER COUPLE OF THOSE THIS YEAR.

WE HAVE SOME OLDER VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

AND ONE THING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT IS WE'RE STARTING TO INVEST IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, OUR EQUIPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAINTAIN OUR ROADS AS THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM CONTINUES ON.

AND WHEN THAT BEGINS TO GET TO AN END POINT, WE WANT TO HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT TO MAINTAIN AND FIX ISSUES ON ROADS.

WHEN A ROADWAY GETS DAMAGED, WE SHOULD HAVE THE APPROPRIATE AND PROPER EQUIPMENT TO FIX IT AND TO FIX IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

SO THAT'S AN INVESTMENT ITEM YOU SEE ON THERE AS WELL.

ALSO, WE HAVE A FEW ADDITIONAL VEHICLE PURCHASES THAT WE'RE TAKING SOME VEHICLES THAT ARE USED FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND GENERAL FUND IS PURCHASING THEM. AND THEN LASTLY, THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF PERSONNEL AND OPERATING RELATED REQUESTS THAT YOU CAN SEE EFFECT RECREATION, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE PROCUREMENT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM ON THERE IS A REQUEST THE MAYOR HAD BROUGHT FORTH AT OUR LAST DISCUSSION, AND IT'S RELATED TO AN AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY FOR A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.

SO ANYWAY, WE CAN TALK FURTHER IF YOU'D LIKE, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.

[04:15:01]

MR.. YEAH.

GILBERT IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

$6.5 MILLION REQUESTING FOR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET 2024.

WE JUST SET THE BUDGET SET WHAT THE DETERMINED MILLAGE RATE THAT WAS LAST NIGHT'S SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.

I'M JUST SAYING, WHY WASN'T THIS INCLUDED IN THAT LAST NIGHT'S BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, WELL, WE JUST DESIGNATED AS SPENDING FUNDS WHEN YOU KNEW YOU WANTED TO SPEND IT RIGHT AWAY.

IT'S A QUESTION OF I LOOK AT IT MORE LIKE THAT TRANSPARENCY, IDENTITY.

YOU KNEW THIS WAS COMING.

WHY WEREN'T CITIZENS ALLOWED TO BE LOOKING AT IT IN LAST NIGHT'S BUDGET? FOR THE INITIAL PRINT OUT, IT'S JUST IT'S LIKE WE SET OUR MILLAGE RATE, WE MADE EVERYBODY FEEL GOOD.

WE LOWERED IT DOWN TO THE CAP, SEE HOW GOOD WE'RE DOING.

BUT NOW WE WANT TO SPEND $6.5 MILLION MORE.

IT JUST I MEAN, THE VERY NEXT DAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.

IT JUST DOES NOT FLOW WITH.

TRANSPARENCY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IN THE IDENTITY OF SPENDING THE MONEY THAT YOU HAVE FOR THIS.

IT'S 100% THE WAY BILL BATTEN THINKS IT SHOULD BE.

IT'S 100. YOU'RE GOING FOR YOUR POLICE, FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S 100% OF WHAT THIS SPENDING IS FOR.

THAT'S WHAT THE CHARTER MANDATES AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SPENDING IT ON.

SO FOR THAT'S A POSITIVE.

AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT GO THAT WAY.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN IF WE DON'T, IT WAS JUST HOW IT HOW IT COMES ACROSS ON YOU TELL ME YESTERDAY, HERE'S WHAT MY BUDGET IS AND THE VERY NEXT DAY YOU ASK FOR 6.5 MORE MILLION DOLLARS TO BE SPENT.

IT JUST DIDN'T FLOW WELL IN MY CRAW.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

THIS IS IT, SIR. MADAM CHAIRMAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT? YES, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

SO YOU'RE NOT WRONG THAT THERE SHOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO DO THIS? THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY IN OUR CURRENT 3% CAP FUNDING ENVIRONMENT TO IN ANY WAY SUCCESSFULLY FUND THESE CAPITAL NEEDS, WHICH IS PART OF OUR ISSUE.

SO THAT IN PART IS WHY YOU COULD NOT HAVE SEEN A $6 BILLION ASK WITHIN THIS THE BUDGET WITH THE MILITARY THAT WE SET BECAUSE THERE WAS NO FUNDING TO COVER THAT IN THE BUDGET.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING STRATEGICALLY IS LOOKING AT THE RIGHT TIMING FOR SOME OF THIS.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY BUDGETING UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE AS PART OF A STRATEGY EACH YEAR TO ADDRESS OUR CAPITAL NEEDS.

AND THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND I HAVE ACTUALLY SPOKEN ABOUT THAT.

SO YOU YOU SORT OF PREPLAN AND ASSUME THAT YOU WILL USE SOME OF THE UN DESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO COVER YOUR CAPITAL NEEDS AND YOU YOU COULD BUILD THAT INTO THE BUDGET.

THE REASON WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IS SOMETHING WE'RE CONSTANTLY WATCHING AND THE MAYOR ACTUALLY MENTIONED IT EARLIER IS WHERE WE'RE AT IN TIME AND SPACE IN HURRICANE SEASON BECAUSE MY UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE IS SUCH A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF WHAT WE WOULD USE TO COVER RESPONSE AND THE COST TO RESPOND TO STORMS. SO FOR US, IT'S REALLY A IT'S A JUGGLING OF THE TIMING AND THE PRIORITIES.

WE NEED TO GET VEHICLES ORDERED FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.

THERE'S NO QUESTION THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE HARDER IT GETS.

AND WE ALSO ARE KEEPING AN EYE ON THE HURRICANE SEASON.

SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS INTO THIS FISCAL YEAR, IF ALL GOES WELL IN THOSE STORMS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE, FOUR, MAYBE MORE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE UNSPENT JUST BECAUSE OF VACANCIES AND THINGS THAT DIDN'T GET FULLY EXPENDED THAT THEN GOES BACK INTO REPLENISH GENERAL FUND.

HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A STORM, THAT MONEY RIGHT NOW IS A BUFFER.

IF THERE'S A STORM IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT EVENT, THEN WE WILL BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO EXPEND ALL OF THIS THAT'S BEING DEDICATED TODAY.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF A IT'S A I'D LIKE TO SPEND ALL THIS ON CAPITAL, BUT IF I HAVE A NEED TO SPEND ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ON EMERGENCY REPAIRS AND ALL THE COSTS FOR PERSONNEL, THEN THIS LIST, UNFORTUNATELY, WOULD ACTUALLY BE DIALED BACK.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS MOVING SO WE CAN INVEST IN THE GREAT CAPITAL NEEDS IN THE CITY.

BUT WE ARE JUGGLING A DIFFICULT, A DIFFICULT SERIES OF THINGS THAT INVOLVE THE TIMING, THE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDING THE HURRICANE SEASON. AND PEOPLE NEED VEHICLES THAT DON'T BREAK DOWN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO I KNOW THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT I WILL TELL YOU, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AND WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF

[04:20:04]

SO IT'S BUILT INTO THE BUDGET, BUT WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO COME BACK AND CHANGE THAT IF SOME OF THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGED IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO, GENTLEMEN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO START, BUT I HAVE TO I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER AND HOW ADAMANT AND BENEFICIAL THAT WOULD BE TO OUR VETERAN POPULATION HERE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND SO PART OF THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY.

THEY WOULD OVERSEE THIS ASPECT OF IT BECAUSE THEY THEY THEY CURRENTLY HAVE SEVERAL, BUT THEY DON'T MOVE THEM FROM FROM THEIR LOCATION.

SO I'M I BELIEVE IF WE HAVE A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER HERE FIVE DAYS A WEEK IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED, NOT NOT A PART TIME POSITION WHERE THEY'LL COME IN HERE FOR WHATEVER, TWO DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK, AND THEN THEY'LL SPEND THE THREE DAYS OUT IN IN BREVARD COUNTY OR IN VIERA.

THE POINT BEING.

I KNOW THAT THESE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICERS ARE BOOKING APPOINTMENTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO VETERANS THREE WEEKS OUT.

AND SO IF WE HAVE OUR OWN PART FULL TIME, I KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE A REALITY.

THERE IS A HIGH DEMAND, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PACT ACT, FOR OUR VETERANS.

THERE'S A LOT OF VETERANS THAT HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, SUFFERED THROUGH TOXICITIES AND CHEMICALS IN THEIR SERVICE.

WE HAVE SEVERAL MARINES THAT ARE OUT REGARDING CAMP LEJEUNE AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO WE HAVE VIETNAM VETERANS.

WE HAVE. AND THOSE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT YOU KNOW OF.

BUT THERE WERE SO MANY OTHER BASES THAT WERE FILLED WITH CHEMICALS.

AND AND WE HAVE A LOT OF SAILORS THAT ENCOUNTER THAT AS WELL.

SO I TRULY BELIEVE WE SHOULD REALLY CONSIDER A FULL TIME POSITION BECAUSE A PART TIME IS IS NOT GOING TO CUT IT IF WE COULD GET A FULL TIME POSITION AND AND WHATEVER THAT THAT WOULD TAKE, I WOULD ASK MADAM SHERMAN TO JUST BRIEF US A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

YES, SIR. AT YOUR REQUEST, I DID LOOK FURTHER INTO THAT.

AND NANCY BUNDT AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH IAN GOLDEN AT BREVARD COUNTY EARLIER TODAY.

SO FOR ROUND NUMBER PURPOSES, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO A FULL TIME POSITION, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND A $100,000 AS A BUDGET ITEM.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE FULL TIME POSITION WOULD BE ABOUT $78,000 AND THIS WOULD ALL BE BY AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT OR EXCUSE ME, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN BREVARD COUNTY AND THE CITY THAT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE LIKE A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.

SO THIS WOULD BE THEIR EMPLOYEE, BUT WE WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDING FOR THAT POSITION, SALARY BENEFITS AS WELL AS ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

SO THE LAPTOP THEY USE, THE THE COUNTY CELL PHONE THAT THEY USE, THE TRAINING THEY HAVE TO ATTEND, THAT'S REQUIRED AS PART OF THEIR JOB TO BE CERTIFIED TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK FOR FOR THE RESIDENTS.

ADDITIONALLY, WE WE BELIEVE THAT WE I'VE TALKED TO THE CDD DIRECTOR, NANCY BUNT, AND WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A SPACE WHERE THEY NEED AN OFFICE THAT THEY COULD USE WHERE THERE IS PRIVACY BECAUSE OF THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE THINGS THEY MEET WITH PEOPLE ON TALKING ABOUT MEDICAL THINGS AND SUCH.

SO THERE IS AN OFFICE SPACE WE BELIEVE WE CAN CONFIGURE FOR THIS, BUT I WOULD USE THAT.

I WOULD HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THERE AS A POTENTIAL FOR THE NEED TO BUY IF WE HAD TO BUY FURNITURE OR RECONFIGURE A SPACE IN SOME WAY.

SO IF COUNCIL WANTED TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION, I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND INCREASING IT FROM 50 TO 100 AND THEN THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FULL TIME.

SO COUNCIL, I WOULD I WOULD ENCOURAGE AND I SOLICIT YOUR SUPPORT IN, IN PROVIDING A FULL TIME VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER FOR FOR OUR OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN PALM BAY.

UM TWO TWO THINGS ONE, I'M NOT SURE MR..

MENTIONED IT, BUT I HAD BROUGHT IT UP A FEW MONTHS AGO ACTUALLY, IN REGARDS TO SCOREBOARDS FOR LYNBROOK AND FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

THERE'S NO SCOREBOARDS, SO I DO WANT THAT TO BE REFLECTED IN THIS REQUEST TO UTILIZE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.

UM, MAYOR, I PERSONALLY WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE THIS IS PRETTY MUCH A RENEWAL OF A PILOT PROGRAM FROM PALM BAY.

I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE STARTING OFF PART TIME BECAUSE UNLIKE ALL THE OTHER, A LOT OF THE OTHER UM, EXPENDITURES, THOSE ARE CAPITAL.

THIS IS, THIS WILL BE OPERATING, SO IT'LL BE REOCCURRING.

SO I FEEL IF WE SEE THAT THAT POSITION IS GETTING CONSTANTLY BOOKED FOR THE TWO DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK OR THREE DAYS, HOWEVER MUCH THEN WE CAN REVISIT AND BE LIKE,

[04:25:05]

BUT I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE STARTING OFF PART TIME AND THEN IF NEED BE, TRANSITIONED TO A FULL TIME POSITION.

LET ME LET ME SHARE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

UH, AND I SHARE THIS WITH NO DISRESPECT TO BREVARD COUNTY, BUT LET ME SHARE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

RIGHT NOW, THE COUNTY HAS EMPLOYEES.

AND FOR THEM TO TAKE ONE OF THEIR VSOS AND TO BRING THEM INTO OUR FACILITY FOR TWO DAYS ON A PART TIME BASIS, ALL WE'RE DOING IS PAYING THEM $50,000 OR PARTNERING $50,000 WHEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HIRE AN ADDITIONAL PERSON JUST DEDICATED TO PALM BAY.

NOW, THAT BEING SAID, WITH A FULL TIME EMPLOYEE, THAT PUTS US IN A PLACE WHERE WE WILL HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL SERVING OUR COMMUNITY ON A FULL TIME BASIS RIGHT HERE.

IN OTHER WORDS, HIS LAPTOP, HE COULD DOWNLOAD ALL THESE FORMS, FILE THOSE CLAIMS FOR THE VA.

HE'S HE'S MOBILE IN, IN IN OUR AREA.

AND I, I JUST DON'T SEE A PART TIME POSITION BEING BENEFICIAL FOR OUR CITY.

AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE I HAVE WHEN I SEE VSOS.

THEY'RE BEING OVERWHELMED WITH THE LEVEL OF CLAIMS THAT THEY HAVE TO FILE.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND THE PERSPECTIVE ON ON THAT.

THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A FULL TIME VSO AND ANY OTHER COMMENTS? DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HATE TO BE.

I CERTAINLY HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESPECT AND LOVE FOR VETERANS LOOKING AT THIS ITEM.

PERSONALLY, I KNOW WE AS A BOARD, WE WE GIVE CONSENSUS PRIOR TO LOOKING PERSONALLY.

UM, MY QUESTION WHAT I'M FACING IS I'M ON THE FENCE WITH EVEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A SERVICE THAT BEING OFFERED BY, BY OUR COUNTY.

YOU WOULD KNOW MUCH BETTER THAN I DO THE DETAILS ON WHAT THEY DO AND HOW AND SO ON.

IF IT'S BEING OFFERED BY A COUNTY, WE BASICALLY PAYING THEIR EMPLOYEE TO SERVICE, I MEAN THAT EMPLOYEE TO SERVICE OUR CITY.

I MEAN, WE YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE IS.

YOU KNOW, 30 MINUTES NORTH.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IF IT'S NEEDED OR THAT'S A SERVICE THAT, THAT, THAT YOU WANT OR A SERVICE THAT YOU, YOU SEE THE NEED MAYBE. I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND.

UM. I'M NOT READY TO SUPPORT THIS.

AND BY NO MEANS IT'S NO, IT'S NO.

YOU KNOW, IF IT'S IF IT WASN'T HERE, IF IT WASN'T AVAILABLE WITHIN OUR COUNTY, I'LL SAY, YOU KNOW, LET'S GO FORWARD. BUT TO ME, I SEE THIS MONEY CAN BE USED ELSEWHERE.

AND THIS IS NOT A MANDATE BY ALL CHARTER BY NOWHERE.

THIS IS A FEDERAL DEAL.

I MEAN, BY NOWHERE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE.

I MEAN, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY AND SO ON FIRE.

AND MAYBE WE CAN HIRE ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER OR FIREFIGHTER.

I'M NOT READY TO SUPPORT THIS RIGHT NOW.

AND TO SOME DEGREE, FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE IN THAT ARENA, BUT I HAVE NOTHING BUT LOVE FOR VETERANS.

I HOPE THEY DO GET THE SERVICE THEY NEED.

THE COUNTY IS OFFERING IT.

I'M NOT READY TO SUPPORT THIS PART TIME.

DEFINITELY NOT FULL TIME.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ANY ITEMS ON THERE? YEAH, YEAH, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU THERE BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENTS, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T, BUT.

AND IT HELPED ME WITH MY COMMENTS THAT THE QUESTION WE GOT A A VA MEDICAL FACILITY HERE.

AND THE REASON WHY WE GOT THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE WE HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS IN THIS CITY.

[04:30:02]

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THAT WAS A BIG EFFORT FROM CONGRESSMAN POSEY AND BRINGING THAT FACILITY THAT IS HERE IN PALM BAY TO AND TO SERVE OUR OUR LOCAL VETERANS.

AND THIS IS IDEALLY THAT THAT FOOTPRINT WILL INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF VETERANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BEING SERVED AT THAT LOCAL VA CLINIC.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.

UM, I USE A VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER TO GET MY VA BENEFITS.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, A PART TIME WON'T DO IT.

YOU COULD GO IN THERE AND SIT WITH THE OFFICER AND ONLY HAVE AN HOUR TO GO OVER YOUR BENEFIT.

AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES MORE THAN AN HOUR TO APPLY FOR BENEFITS.

A SPOUSE, A DEPENDENT NEEDS THAT SERVICE.

OKAY. AND I'VE BEEN IN THERE MANY TIMES AND.

VIEIRA THEY GOT THEY GOT AMERICAN LEGION AND THE DISABLED VETERAN AMERICAN VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER IN THE VA CLINIC. AND THEY GOT ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN THE COUNTY AND THEY ALWAYS BIG YOU GOT TO SET APPOINTMENTS.

AND YOU GOT TO WAIT HOURS JUST TO SEE ONE.

HOURS. IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, YOU JUST COME IN AT THE WALK IN.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE WAITING BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPOINTMENTS, SO IT'S A NEED FOR IT.

AND BEING THAT THIS COMMUNITY, PALM BAY, IS A VETERAN COMMUNITY, WHICH I MEAN, YOU KNOW MORE THAN I MAYOR THAN I DO BECAUSE YOU DO THE WORK.

AM I CORRECT? YES, SIR.

I CAN TELL YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THAT BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, OUR POPULATION CONTINUES TO GROW.

AND YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'VE OVERLOOKED IN THIS IS THE THE SPOUSE'S THE SURVIVING SPOUSES OF OUR VETERANS AND THE APPEAL PROCESS TO THIS WHOLE QUAGMIRE OF DEALING WITH THE BUREAUCRACY OF OF THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS, THE JOBS OF THE VETERAN SERVICE OFFICER.

I THINK THEY'RE THEY'RE ONE OF THE MOST CRITICALLY NEEDED INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY GET CERTIFIED EVERY SINGLE YEAR ON DEALING WITH THE VA.

AND THAT THAT NEED IS SO CRITICAL FOR OUR VETERANS BECAUSE THE TIMES OF TRYING TO FILE A CLAIM ON YOURSELF IS NONEXISTENT.

YOU FILE A CLAIM ON YOURSELF AND YOU JUST INCREASE THE CHANCES OF BEING DENIED, PERIOD, AND THEN COMES INTO THIS LONG AWAITED APPEALS PROCESS.

IT IS DEFINITELY AND THIS IS FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVERT.

AND PART OF YOUR YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSE I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, IS THE IMPACT IN BENEFITS, MONETARY, MONETARY BENEFITS THAT THESE VETERANS HAVE EARNED AND GO STRAIGHT INTO OUR LOCAL ECONOMY.

AND FOLKS DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE THAT.

YES, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE $100,000 WITH THE OFFICE EQUIPMENT AND AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT THE THE IMPACT ON THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BRING ONCE THESE VETERANS GET THEIR APPROVED BENEFITS, IT'S UNMEASURABLE.

I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR, 100%, BECAUSE I'M A I'M A VETERAN AND I USE THE SERVICES TO GET A LOT OF MY BENEFIT.

IT WASN'T FOR THEM. I WOULDN'T HAVE MY BENEFITS AND WHICH I DESERVE AND WHICH OTHER VETERANS DESERVE.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE FORGET ABOUT THE SPOUSE OF THE VETERAN.

EVEN THOUGH THAT VETERAN HAS PASSED AWAY, THEY STILL BENEFITS FOR THE SPOUSE OR THE CHILDREN.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE EXAMPLE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS THE VA LOAN.

A VOTE FOR A HOUSE.

THAT'S HOW I PURCHASED MY HOME.

SO BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.

I DON'T YOU KNOW, FIRST I THOUGHT A PART TIME WOULD BE GOOD.

AND THEN I AND I REFLECT ON WHAT I WENT THROUGH.

A PART TIME WON'T BE AFFECTED.

YOU GOT TO HAVE A FULL TIME PERSON DEDICATED TO THIS.

[04:35:04]

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CAN'T MAKE THAT THAT THAT TRIP.

AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME MAKING THE TRIP TO THE VA RIGHT NOW.

SO I BET SHE'S IN WORSE SHAPE THAN I AM RIGHT NOW.

SO THEY NEED TO TALK TO AN OFFICER TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR CLAIM.

LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A BUREAUCRACY.

THE VA IS IS A IS A MASSIVE BUREAUCRACY.

AND AND THEY'VE GOT NEW PROGRAMS, NEW BENEFITS THAT ARE A FRIEND CALLED ME THAT I WASN'T EVEN AWARE OF THAT I'M ELIGIBLE FOR.

AND TODAY I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF THIS BENEFITS.

AND I'M PRETTY GOOD ON READING BUREAUCRACY IN THE VA AND LIKE THE PAC APP, THAT'S A NEW PROGRAM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME OUT WITH, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE VA CAME OUT WITH.

FOR VETERANS, THE CAMP LEJUNE ISSUES.

UM, HAWAII ISSUES THE VOLCANO.

A LOT OF MARINES GET INJURED WHEN THAT VOLCANO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE IN.

AND THEY LIVED IN PALM BAY.

WE NEED TO WE NEED TO HELP OUR CITIZENS AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT SACRIFICE AND SERVE FOR OUR COUNTRY.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A FULL TIME POSITION.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A FEW ITEMS IN THERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, GUESS YOU'RE THE SWING VOTE AT THIS POINT FOR THE THE VSO AT FULL TIME.

DANG, MAN. UM.

SO. SO WHAT I WILL ASK IF WE.

IF WE WERE.

SO, MISS SHERMAN, GO DOWN THIS ROUTE? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DATA, BECAUSE WE WE HAVE DATA ON THE POLICE.

WE HAVE DATA ON FIRE.

WE HAVE DATA ON EVERYTHING, EVERY OTHER FUNDING REQUEST.

BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY DATA ON HERE.

I DID GET THE NUMBERS FROM MISS NANCY IN REGARDS TO THE 15 TO 17,000 PHONE CALLS OR IN PERSON CONTACTS PER YEAR.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN REGARDS TO PALM BAY.

UM, SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT FOR TODAY.

BUT I DO WANT TO SEE I WANT, I WANT THE DATA TO BACK IT, THAT'S ALL.

UM, SO.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THE DATA WILL WILL FOLLOW ONCE WE LET FOLKS KNOW THAT WE HAVE A VSO RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WHENEVER WE GET THAT GOING.

I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID.

IT'S A IT'S A DYNAMIC WHERE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE WAITING, JUST TRYING TO GET IN.

AND IT'S JUST NOT HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

I CAN TELL YOU IT'S INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, IT'S ORANGE COUNTY, IT'S OSCEOLA COUNTY.

I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO WITNESS THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT COUNTIES.

AND AND IT'S JUST A THE VA HE MENTIONED THE FACT THAT WHAT WHAT HAS OCCURRED ON THIS ISSUE.

I WILL ADD THAT THE WAIT TIMES FOR THE VA IS ASTRONOMICAL.

CONGRESS DOES ACT ON BEHALF OF VETERANS AND SOMETIMES THE VA IS SLOW IN REACTING AND IMPLEMENTING THESE POLICIES.

AND THAT ADDS ON TO THE THE LENGTH OF THAT.

BUT YES, SO A QUICK QUESTION TO THAT POINT, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF VETERANS IN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY AS WELL.

HOW HOW CAN THEY, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE HONESTLY PROBABLY WON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS.

SO I KNOW WE DO HAVE NONPROFITS THAT WORK WITH THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE THEY'RE MISSING, IF THEY CAN GET FROM 30% TO 80 OR 100%, YES, SIR.

WELL, MOST MOST HOMELESS VETERANS, ONCE THEY GET TAPPED INTO THE SYSTEM, THAT'S WHERE THINGS START TO EVALUATE.

RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SOCIAL WORKERS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS THAT'S ACTUALLY IN VIERA.

THE IDEAL GOAL.

YOU'RE HITTING ON SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THE FUTURE IS RIGHT.

THIS FOOTPRINT THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE PALM BAY CLINIC, THE VA, THE IDEAL SITUATION IS TO MAKE THAT INTO A 20, 25,000 OR SQUARE

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RIGHT. SO THAT THAT IS ALL PART OF THE SOLUTION.

BUT THIS IS MORE TOWARDS GETTING THAT BENEFIT TO GET THIS INITIATED.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE VA, THEY WON'T THEY HAVE OTHER FOLKS, BUT SPACE IS SO LIMITED.

AND GOING TO.

VIEIRA I'VE NOTICED, I KNOW OF A FEW VETERANS THAT I HAVE ENCOUNTERED SAYING IT WAS TAXING BEFORE I FORGET.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER YOU MENTIONED ABOUT MISSING APPOINTMENTS.

THERE IS A PILOT PROGRAM FROM THE VA THAT'S TRYING TO USE UBERS, AND I CAN LOOK INTO IF IF WE CAN GET YOU A RIDE TO THE CLINIC OR IN THAT IN THAT CAPACITY.

BUT NO VETERAN SHOULD BE LEFT WITHOUT ANY ANY SERVICES IF THEY NEED IN PARTICULAR WITH MEDICAL SERVICES.

SO I SUGGEST YOU CONTACT CONGRESSMAN POSEY'S OFFICE AND, AND WE COULD DIAL YOU IN WITH THAT, BUT.

OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. APPRECIATE IT.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, SIR, I THINK THE DATA WILL REVEAL ITSELF.

AND I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS.

AND IDEALLY, WE COULD DIAL THIS IN AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND IT'S GETTING THE WORD OUT BECAUSE THE DATA WILL FOLLOW.

I'VE MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF REAL QUICK.

NUMBER ONE, WE CALL ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN THAT REGARD TO FIND OUT IF THEY PROVIDE THIS SERVICE.

I HAVE NOT PERSONALLY, I'M NOT AWARE IT'S NOT A COMMON PLACE THING.

JUST GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S NOT COMMON FOR CITY GOVERNMENTS TO PROVIDE THESE SERVICES.

I THINK IT'S MORE COMMON FOR COUNTIES TO DO IT, BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY KIND OF SURVEY OR ANYTHING.

THE SECOND QUESTION WOULD, SHOULD SHOULD THIS PASS TONIGHT? DO WE HAVE SPACE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL? YES, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE CDD DIRECTOR AND WE TALKED ABOUT A STRATEGY TO MAKE MAKE AN ACTUAL OFFICE SPACE FOR THAT PERSON.

THERE'D BE SOME RECONFIGURATION, WHICH IS ALSO WHY AS PART OF THE BUDGET, I'M REQUESTING A LITTLE BIT ABOVE WHAT I BELIEVE WE NEED FROM FOR ACTUALLY FUNDING THE POSITION, BECAUSE I MAY ALSO NEED TO BUILD WALLS AND CONFIGURE A SPACE IF THE CURRENT PLAN DOESN'T ACTUALLY PAN OUT.

SO THERE IS DEFINITELY SOME ADDITIONAL EXPENSE THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

OH, I'M SORRY. IF I MAY, I WAS GOING TO JUST CLARIFY.

SO, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S REQUEST FOR THE ADDITIONAL SCOREBOARDS.

WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. SO WE NEED THE SCOREBOARDS AT LYNBROOK AND FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK TO FINISH OUT THE REPLACEMENTS.

THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL $86,000 ON THE LIST.

SO I WANTED TO TELL YOU, WE HAVE THAT NUMBER AND WE'RE PREPARED TO ADD THAT TO IT IF YOU WANT TO ADD IT ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. I'M.

I'M GOOD WITH THE.

THE SCOREBOARDS, MA'AM.

COUNSELOR. DEPUTY DEPUTY MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. I MAKE A MOTION TO.

LET'S SEE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE I INCLUDE EVERYTHING.

LET ME START WITH THIS.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CITY MANAGER'S REQUEST FOR THE UNDESIGNATED FUND.

FUNDING REQUESTS TO INCLUDE FULL TIME POSITION FOR THE VSO OF $100,000 AND THE REPLACEMENT OF THE SCOREBOARDS FOR LINDBROOK AND FRED POPPY PARK TOTALING $86,000.

I'LL SECOND NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR.

COPY THAT. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. SAY NAY.

NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

YES, MAYOR STAFF IS REQUESTING CONSENSUS FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE NORTH AMERICAN MAYORS SUMMIT AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM IN FORT LAUDERDALE.

THIS IS FROM NOVEMBER 15TH THROUGH 17TH.

AND SINCE THE SUMMIT FALLS ON THE SAME DATE AS THE SECOND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, COUNCIL MAY WISH TO RESCHEDULE THE MEETING TO TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION. SO CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, MA'AM? WE SO IF IF IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND, YOU JUST NEED CONSENSUS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE ATTENDING.

AND IF COUNCIL DOES WISH TO RESCHEDULE THE SECOND REGULAR MEETING IN NOVEMBER, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION.

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OKAY. UM, GENTLEMEN, I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'M, I REALLY WANT TO ATTEND.

AND I THINK, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS.

THEY SENT OUT SOME PROPAGANDA PARAPHERNALIA, ANTI-SEMITISM WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORING CITY, WEST MELBOURNE, IT WAS REPORTED.

UM, AND SO I WANT TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE IN THIS CAPACITY, BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO ATTEND, WE WOULD HAVE TO RESCHEDULE OUR COUNCIL MEETING TO A TUESDAY. SO I ASK, I DO WANT TO ATTEND AND I REQUEST THAT WE MOVE IT TO THAT TUESDAY, WHICH WOULD BE THE 14TH.

CORRECT, MA'AM? THAT'S CORRECT.

NOVEMBER 14TH.

SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF EITHER ONE OF YOU WOULD WANT TO ATTEND IT AS WELL.

I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE THE.

OKAY. WELL, I'LL TAKE THE MOTION.

MOTION TO CHANGE THE DATE.

THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING TO TUESDAY NOVEMBER 14TH.

TO ALLOW.

MEMBER OF COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NORTH AMERICAN MAYORS SUMMIT.

SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? OH, AS YOU WERE.

SO WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION YET.

SO CAN YOU REMOVE YOUR MOTION? I REMOVE MY SECOND.

I REMOVE MY MOTION.

OKAY. MR. BATTEN. MR. BATTEN. OH.

PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY.

I DIDN'T. GIVE ME THE HITS UP THERE, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. GIVE ME THAT LOOK LIKE MAYBE NOT.

MR. BATON MAYOR, BEFORE WE DO THAT.

OH, YEAH. WE NEED A 11.

YES. CAN I GET A MOTION TO EXTEND OUR MEETING? MOVED SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE EXTENDED THE MEETING.

CARRY ON, SIR. 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

ONE MORE TIME.

THIS COUNCIL BENDS, STRETCHES AND FINAGLES REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS TO MEET YOUR PERSONAL NEEDS.

REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST AND THIRD THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF JUNE.

JUST BECAUSE YOU CANNOT SEEM TO MAINTAIN A QUORUM BECAUSE OF YOUR ACTIONS.

THOSE ACTIONS BEING ONE REMOVAL OF A COUNCIL MEMBER BECAUSE OF THEIR PERSONAL BEHAVIORS THAT HAD NO IMPACT ON THEM PERFORMING THEIR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING COMMITMENTS. ITEM NUMBER TWO, FAILURE ON YOUR PART TO PLACE A TEMPORARY MEMBER ON THE DAIS WHEN THERE WAS A MEDICAL VACANCY. AND EVEN LAST NIGHT YOU HAD TO HOLD UP A VOTE BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD TO TAKE A LEAK.

THESE WERE YOUR ACTIONS.

SO WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO MODIFY OUR SCHEDULES, THE RESIDENTS AND TAXPAYERS, TO MAKE YOUR LIVES EASIER OR BETTER? YOU AS A COUNCIL HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS.

YOU MADE THESE DECISIONS THAT PUT YOU IN THIS SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN'T MEET A QUORUM OR YOU CAN'T MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS.

THESE WERE YOUR ACTIONS.

OWN IT. YOU HAVE TO PAY THE COST.

SO WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO MODIFY OUR SCHEDULES? BECAUSE YOU'VE MADE THESE DECISIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

MOTION TO REMOVE THE REGULAR SECOND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING FROM NOVEMBER 14TH, 2020.

FROM NOVEMBER 16TH, 2023 TO TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? MR. BATTEN. YOU DO.

YOU DO HAVE A POINT AND I AGREE.

I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF.

I'M I'M NOT GOING TO GO TO SOMETHING IF I IF IT'S GOING TO HINDER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT, SIR.

SO BUT I DO SUPPORT THIS ESPECIALLY.

I WAS JUST I JUST TOOK MY SON TO DISNEY ON ICE SUNDAY.

AND RIGHT OUTSIDE THEY HAD A LOT OF JUST I'LL SAY IT, THEY HAD NAZIS, THEY HAD NAZIS OUT THERE.

AND IT WAS JUST LUCKILY HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

SO HE'S FOUR, SO HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

BUT I'M LIKE, WOW, IT'S 2023 AND THIS IS WHAT WE SEE.

SO WE SAW IT IN PLAIN SIGHT.

BUT SO I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS, SIR.

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I'M CALLING THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HI. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD, GENTLEMEN, BECAUSE OF SEPTEMBER 11TH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE THERE LAST YEAR, THIS YOUNG MAN SPOKE.

HE'S A PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT.

HE SPOKE SO ELOQUENT ON WHAT HIS GRANDMOTHER TOLD HIM.

THIS IS YOUR PEARL HARBOR.

HE TOOK THAT TO HEART AS HE WAS IN SCHOOL.

AND HE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GREW UP, JOINED THE ARMY, WENT AND DEFENDED OUR NATION, TOOK ON THE BATON.

SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE THAT'S WHY THE ADDED NEW BUSINESS ITEM BECAUSE I WANTED THE FLAG FLOWN OVER CITY HALL ON SEPTEMBER 11TH AND THAT'S WHY I BOUGHT THIS THIS LAST ITEM.

DO I HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? NO, SIR. OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I'M GOING TO. ANY COMMENTS? NO, I HEARD HIM SPEAK LAST YEAR, SIR.

SO THAT'S. THAT'S ALL.

YEAH, YOU SAID IT BEST.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL RIGHT. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ALL RIGHT, MR. FORSTER, WE'RE ON COUNCIL REPORTS.

[COUNCIL REPORTS]

THANK YOU. I WAS.

I'D CALL IT A TAG THAT I'M NOT FULFILLING MY OATH OF OFFICE.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT.

THAT WAS EARLIER THIS EVENING.

I AM FULFILLING MY OATH OF OFFICE.

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH, BUT I'M DOING MY BEST TO FULFILL MY ATTEND MY BRIEFINGS, COMMUNICATE WITH STAFF, THE CITY MANAGER, THE CITY CITY CLERK.

THE CITY ATTORNEY.

THEY REACHED OUT TO ME. I REACHED OUT TO THEM AND I GET BRIEFINGS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ON THAT DICE GET BRIEFING BEFORE THE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

I'M NOT PHYSICALLY THERE, BUT I'M ON THE PHONE.

AND IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO BE ON THE PHONE BECAUSE SOME DAYS, SOME SOME NIGHTS I JUST CAN'T GO THAT LONG.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

I AM FULFILLING MY OFFICE.

I NEVER VIOLATED ANY OATH.

I TOOK MANY OATHS AS A MILITARY PERSONNEL, AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND AS A VOLUNTEER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THE SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY IS SEPTEMBER 11TH IS A VERY IMPORTANT DAY.

IT CHANGED A LOT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES AND AND A LOT OF LOVED ONES LOST THEIR LOVED ONES.

SO I'M SO HONORED THAT THE CITY HAS CONTINUED THIS CEREMONY.

I DON'T THINK NO OTHER CITY OTHER THAN NEW YORK THAT COMES TO MIND OR DC THAT DOES A CEREMONY FOR SEPTEMBER 11TH VICTIMS IN THIS COUNTRY. UM, SEPTEMBER 11TH CHANGED MY LIFE.

IT ACTIVATE ME TOO AND SENT ME OVER TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

AND FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN MY MILITARY SERVICE IN A COMBAT ZONE.

SO I.

I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S RECOGNIZE THE THE PUBLIC.

UH, THE PUBLIC OFFICERS, THE POLICE OFFICERS, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE MILITARY PERSONNEL THAT RESPOND TO SERVE THIS COUNTRY.

BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO SERVE WHEN THEY WERE CALLED TO SERVE IN UNIFORM, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THEM.

I ONLY REMEMBER THE ONES THAT SERVED THIS COUNTRY.

SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I ONLY HAVE TWO ITEMS. ONE AND I SPOKE TO STAFF ABOUT IT.

I'VE ACTUALLY HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.

AND YOU YOU ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON IT.

THE EVANS CENTER.

I JUST WANT TO SEE IF WE CAN GIVE STAFF SOME TYPE OF DIRECTION, WHETHER IT'S TO USE THAT AREA FOR ONE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, POLICE DEPARTMENT, COMMUNITY CENTER, SOMETHING BECAUSE WE INVESTED SO MUCH TIME AND MONEY INTO IT.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AREA GO BACK TO HOW IT USED TO BE WHEN IT WAS THE PREVIOUS EVIDENCE CENTER.

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SO IF THERE'S ANY EFFORT WE CAN DO OR DIRECT STAFF TO DO TOWARDS THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION.

MAYOR. THE SECOND THING, IF WE CAN GET I WOULD LIKE IF CITY MANAGER CAN GIVE AN UPDATE ON HOW WE'RE COMING ALONG WITH ADDRESSING THE FLOODING, DRAINAGE AND CULVERTS.

WE DODGED THE WE DODGED THE HURRICANE.

I KNOW THERE'S ONE OUT OUT EAST STILL, BUT YEAH, WE'RE GOING.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. IT'S NOT COMING THIS WAY.

BUT STILL, JUST WANT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN REGARDS TO ADDRESSING THOSE NEEDS AND CONCERNS.

AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

SO DO YOU WANT TO CALL UP? YEAH. I'LL HAVE OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, VALENTINA PEREZ, COME UP.

THANK YOU. AND MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME START OFF BY SAYING, I KNOW YOU INHERITED A LOT AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH A LOT, SO IT'S NOTHING.

I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE WERE, SIR.

THAT'S ALL. YEAH, NO PROBLEM.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR.

SO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, WE'VE BEEN TAKING ADDITIONAL STEPS, WHETHER IT BE APPROVING OVERTIME TO TRY TO CATCH UP WITH THE MULTIPLE TICKETS THAT WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE DRAINAGE.

SO IN MY LAST STAFF MEETING WITH MR. BACHMAN, MY DIVISION MANAGER, WITH THE OVERTIME THAT'S APPROVED, WE'RE LOOKING PROBABLY MID-OCTOBER.

WE'RE GOING TO BE CAUGHT UP WITH THE TRENCHING, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.

SO I CAN I WANT TO SAY I'M GOING TO PROMISE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON ADDRESSING THOSE TICKETS.

AND AS FAR AS THE CANAL MAINTENANCE, WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN GETTING MANY CALLS REGARDING THAT.

WE'VE ADDRESSED LIKE THE EMERGENCY ONES, AND WE'RE ON SCHEDULE TO COMPLETE THOSE.

YOU KNOW, FOR MY MEETINGS WITH MR. BACHMAN, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER LOOKED AT THE WEATHER MAP, AS I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

SO I'M HAPPY IT'S NOT RAINING.

SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP NOW AND JUST POSITION OURSELVES FOR NEXT YEAR TO BE AHEAD OF IT.

WE WE GOT THE BACK TRUCK TONIGHT THAT'S GOING TO ALLEVIATE THE ISSUES.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.

WE'RE LOOKING INTO OUTSOURCING SOME OF THE HELP TO OUR INNER STAFF.

SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS TO EXPAND OUR SERVICES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION TO BE REACTING TO A SITUATION.

BEING PROACTIVE ON THIS SO WE CAN STAY AHEAD OF IT.

I LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF GDC HERE IN 1960.

YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW THESE CULVERTS ARE, YOU KNOW, THE CONDITIONS.

BUT WE HAVE LINING CONTRACTS, REPLACEMENTS OF THE CULVERTS.

I THINK AN ASPECT THAT I'M TRYING TO WORK ON, WE HAVE A CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER POSITION THAT'S GOING TO GET POSTED TOMORROW WITH ALL THE APPROVALS THAT'S GOING TO AID OUR SOLID WASTE.

PROJECTING THAT TO AID IN OUR EDUCATION TO THE PUBLIC REGARDING THE DRAINAGE THAT WE HAVE.

RIGHT. IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT I'M USED TO IN THE CITY THAT I LIVE BECAUSE IT'S ALL STORMWATER RETENTION PONDS.

SO I THINK THAT OUTREACH IS GOING TO HELP THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS WHEN THESE HEAVY RAINS COME.

AND AS AND AS WE ALLEVIATE EVERYTHING THAT'S THAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

THAT'S ALL, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. JUST GETTING BACK TO YOUR DIRECTION ON THE EVANS CENTER, I WANTED TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.

UM, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF AND I BROUGHT THIS UP THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING ELSE, TOO, RIGHT? BUT TO TO HAVE THEM LOOK.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO YOU? WHAT ARE YOU ENVISIONING? AND THAT'S WHY I'M REALLY KIND OF JUST LOOKING TO HAND IT OVER TO THE LADIES AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN COME UP WITH.

BUT I'M OPEN TO ANYTHING WHETHER WE WANT TO PUT SOME MORE OFFICERS OVER THERE, BECAUSE NOTHING AGAINST MELBOURNE, OUR OFFICERS RESPOND FASTER AND I'VE SEEN IT TO SOME OF THE MELBOURNE CALLS THAN MELBOURNE.

BUT IF WE WANT TO PUT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT OVER THERE OR SOMETHING, YOUTH BASED OVER THERE WITH OUR PARKS OR I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO NARROW IT TO.

YOU DON'T WANT TO HANDCUFF THEM.

YES, SIR. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT USING THE FACILITY ITSELF? YES, SIR. OKAY. I'M TRACKING THAT.

THERE'S THERE'S A QUESTION.

YEAH, GO AHEAD. WHAT'S THE CURRENT USE? WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATE RIGHT NOW? IS IT COMPLETELY. THE MARKET PORTION IS CLOSED.

SO THE MARKET PORTION IS CLOSED.

IT CLOSED EFFECTIVELY SEPTEMBER 1ST.

THEY'RE STILL UTILIZING THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

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THEY HAVE A LEASE WITH THEM? YES.

THEY'RE THE TENANT AND THEY HAVE A LEASE THERE.

AND THE RENT THAT THEY'VE BEEN PAYING HAS BEEN THE SAME SINCE THEY'VE GONE INTO THE PLACE.

SO. SO THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE THERE.

YEAH, THAT'S THAT'S.

BUT MAYOR, ONE LAST QUESTION.

SO I'M I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

SO WHO THE, THE BUILDING.

IS THERE. I MEAN, WHO'S IN CHARGE? WHO? NEIGHBOR.

NEIGHBORING PALM BAY.

NEIGHBOR. BREVARD. NEIGHBOR.

BREVARD. SO.

SO I'M JUST LOOKING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR THE LADIES AND MEETING WITH NEIGHBOR OF BREVARD, BUT JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION.

YEAH. SOMETHING.

LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING. IT'S PUBLIC.

ONE THING. I KNOW THIS ORGANIZATION, THEY OWN THE NOTE, WHATEVER.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FINANCIALLY IN THE HOOK FOR THE EVAN CENTER.

THAT'S WHAT UP. YEAH THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS SHARED WITH ME.

I MEAN I'VE DONE PERSONALLY I WAS OUT THERE WITHIN THE TRENCHES ORGANIZING BECAUSE MY BACKGROUND, THE SUPERMARKET, EXTENSIVE BACKGROUND.

SO I WAS INVOLVED AND DID WHAT I COULD.

EVEN GOT MISTER HERNANDEZ INVOLVED.

WE HAD AN, YOU KNOW, TWO HOUR LONG MEETING TO SEE HOW WE CAN ASSIST WITH DIFFERENT IDEAS AND SO ON.

AND OBVIOUSLY NONE OF THAT WORKED.

UM, IT'S, IT'S A DIFFICULT DYNAMIC, BUT I MEAN, I WOULD SUPPORT WHATEVER WE CAN DO GOING IN, TRY TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. IT'S INTERESTING, I WAS THINKING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT WENT ACROSS MY MIND TODAY, JUST TODAY AS I DROVE BY, I'M THINKING THE, YOU KNOW, DANCING THE SAME SONG, THAT KIND OF EFFORT THAT ON DANCING WITH THE STARS.

OH, YEAH, THAT THAT ONE NIGHT THEY THEY RAISED 400,000.

THAT WOULD SOLVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, A QUARTER OF THAT WOULD SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

SO THAT'S WHAT WENT TO MY MOM.

WHY DON'T WE, THE COMMUNITY PULL TOGETHER AND SAY DUDE, DANCING WITH THE WE CAN HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF LANCE FISHER DO IT.

WELL, CERTAINLY. SURE.

OH, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO.

I'D LOVE TO SEE I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT MARINE DANCE, BUT NO.

YEAH, OKAY.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, THOUGH, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GET BACK ON TRACK RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN.

WHAT? I KNOW THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP.

THE CITY HAS SOMETHING AT STAKE THERE.

IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT? WHAT IS THAT? WE INVESTED $250,000 INTO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF A LEGAL POSITION.

IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE ACTUALLY SOMEHOW GET THAT MONEY BACK OR WOULD TRY TO, BUT I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON IT UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO JUMP IN.

OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S OKAY THEN.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE DUE DILIGENCE IS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR STAKE IS AND HOW WE WE BENEFIT.

SO YEAH, YOU GOT CONSENSUS, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BECAUSE YEAH, I'M INTERESTED A QUARTER OF $1 MILLION THAT THE CITY INVESTED SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE, DEPUTY MAYOR YOU'RE NEXT.

NO. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I WANT TO BE I JUST WANT TO MENTION ONE THING, JUST WHAT WE VOTED ON EARLIER.

I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT I SUPPORTED THE AGENDA ITEM ITSELF.

YOU KNOW, I WAS CLEAR AS TO THE ONLY ONE LINE ITEM THAT WASN'T WILLING TO SUPPORT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE ON THE RECORD.

I DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST THE LIST, CERTAINLY FIRE.

AND SO I WANTED TO BE ON THE RECORD.

I DIDN'T VOTE TOTALLY, BUT JUST THAT ONE ITEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THAT'S ALL. SO I'VE GOT TWO ITEMS. THE VERY FIRST THING IS PATRIOTS DAY.

IT'S SEPTEMBER 11TH.

COME JOIN US AT ZERO 830.

WE'LL START AT ZERO 830 AND WE'RE GOING TO HONOR THE LIVES AND HONOR THE HEROES THAT WENT TOWARDS THE DANGER RIGHT HERE BY CITY HALL. AND THEN I WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING UP.

MADAM SHERMAN, AS FAR AS MALABAR ROAD IS, IS THERE A PARTNERSHIP OR DO WE SPEAK TO BREVARD COUNTY REGARDING THE INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC SIGNAL? WHAT CAN BE DONE? HAVE WE EXHAUSTED ALL POSSIBILITIES ON ON PROVIDING THAT CORRIDOR WITH THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL COORDINATION? WE'RE ACTUALLY IN PROCESS.

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BUT SO IT'S IT'S STILL IN WORK.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

I KNOW THAT WE SPEAK ON THIS BEHIND THE SCENES ALL THE TIME.

THIS IS IMPORTANT TO ME, BUT THAT'S THE BEST WAY WE CAN MOVE TRAFFIC A LOT MORE EFFICIENTLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.

NOW WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS, MA'AM.

MADAM SHERMAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]

YES, SIR.

THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12TH, AT 6:00 PM TO SEEK YOUR ADVICE CONCERNING COMMUNITY ASPHALT VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY.

CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2023.

CA 036384, WHICH WILL LAST APPROXIMATELY ONE HOUR.

ATTENDEES WILL BE THE MAYOR, ROB MEDINA, DEPUTY MAYOR DONNY PHILLIPS, COUNCIL MEMBERS KENNY JOHNSON AND RANDY FOSTER, CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN, CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH AND OUTSIDE COUNSEL SEAN MCLEE AND A CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER.

YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORTS, MA'AM? YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANY ADDITIONAL CARDS, MAYOR? YEAH. WITH WITH THIS REQUEST.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

YES. NOT AVAILABLE THAT THAT DAY.

OH. CAN CAN WE JOIN BY PHONE OR CAN TWO OF US BE BY PHONE? NO. NO NEED FOR NO.

THERE HAS TO BE THREE FOR A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

AND WAS THAT TRYING TO PULL THEM UP? OKAY, I'LL BE.

IT'S MY BIRTHDAY WEEKEND.

IS THAT BEFORE. AFTER THAT CAME FROM ANGELA, RIGHT? YEAH. SO CAN WE CHANGE THE DATE, MADAM ATTORNEY? NO, SIR.

I AM TRYING TO PULL IT UP.

MY COMPUTER FROZE FOR A SECOND, BUT IT'S BACK UP.

OKAY, WELL, LET ME CHECK.

MONDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY WOULD WORK FOR ME, BUT.

TUESDAY SHOULD BE FINE.

THE 17TH.

17 WILL WORK. MAYOR AND.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. WELL, OCTOBER 17TH.

WORK FOR THE TWO OF YOU.

IS THAT A TUESDAY? YES. YES, SIR.

YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM.

I CAN MAKE IT. OKAY.

SO I'LL BE OCTOBER 17TH AT 6:00 PM WITH THE SAME ATTENDEES.

OCTOBER 17TH.

OKAY. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UH, WHO WAS FIRST? MR. BUTCH.

BUTCH. BUTCH.

OH, FOREIGN.

THANK YOU. PUT YOUR ROUND TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS TRUCK THAT WE JUST BOUGHT, WHERE DOES IT EMPTY ITS LOAD AT? WHERE DOES THAT GO? I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'RE PICKING UP NASTY STUFF.

WHERE DOES IT END UP? THE OTHER THING IS A SIDEWALK FROM MADELEINE LANDINGS, THE BIG APARTMENT COMPLEX DOWN TO THE WINN-DIXIE PLAZA.

YOU ONLY NEED ABOUT MAYBE 300FT BECAUSE THERE'S SECTIONS.

BUT WHEN THIS RAIN MOVES IN, IT'S TERRIBLE FOR THOSE FOLKS TO WALK UP AND DOWN THROUGH THERE.

SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE SHORT BIT OF SIDEWALK.

THE OTHER THING, MADDEN ROAD JUST GOT REPAVED.

MADDEN ROAD IS 3.7 MILES LONG.

I WENT OUT THERE TODAY TO CHECK THIS.

THERE IS APPROXIMATELY TEN HOUSES ON THAT ROAD.

IT'S A DEAD END ON BOTH ENDS.

IT INTERSECTS WITH BOMBARDIER.

OSMOSIS. OWL OR SOMETHING WAY DOWN SOUTH THERE.

MY QUESTION IS, THEY REPAVED THAT.

WHY CAN'T WE GET MINTON ROAD REPAVED? IT'S A LOT SHORTER DISTANCE AND THERE'S A HELL OF A LOT MORE TRAFFIC ON MINTON THAN MADDEN.

THAT'S ALL THAT I GOT.

THANK YOU. SO MID ROAD, SIDEWALKS, MID ROAD AND SIDEWALKS.

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THE MINTON ROAD PAVING PROJECT IS 100% DESIGNED.

THEY'RE WORKING CURRENTLY ON THE BID DOCUMENTS AND IT WILL BE ADVERTISED ALONG WITH SOME OTHER ROADWAYS IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.

SO MINTON ROAD IS IS IN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

I WILL CHECK AGAIN WITH STAFF.

I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT SECTION OF SIDEWALK BETWEEN THAT AREA WILL ALL LOOK AT THAT WITH STAFF AGAIN THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

GOOD EVENING. TIRED? MR. JOHNSON, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE PONDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON, WE MOVE WATER LIKE THE ROMANS DID 2000 YEARS AGO.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PONDS WITH LILY PADS AND DEBRIS AND DEAD ANIMALS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND ONE OF THE SPAGHETTI MODELS I'VE SEEN ON THE ON THE I HOPE IT'S NOT TRUE SHOWS LEE COMING UP, THE CENTER OF FLORIDA.

NOW, I THINK THE PROBLEM THAT I WANT TO GET TO YOU THAT I HAVE IS COMMUNICATION.

WE MENTIONED THIS DURING THE LAST MEETING.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE, COULD CAUSE FLOODING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.

AND WHAT WE SIMPLY GOT WAS A THANK YOU NEXT SPEAKER.

THAT SHOULD BE ALARMING TO YOU.

I MEAN, AT LEAST PUT IT OFF AND SAY WE'LL FOLLOW UP OR WE'LL DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

BUT IT JUST DIED AND WE HEAR NOTHING.

SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU PLAN, WHO'S WORKING ON IT, WHO'S ON FIRST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S STILL A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, I'M I'M HAPPY WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO EXTEND THEIR PROPERTY BY THREE FEET TO PUT IN A POOL MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD.

BUT THIS IS A THIS IS AN ITEM THAT COULD BE REALLY SIGNIFICANT WITH REGARD TO FLOODING.

SO I'M ASKING THAT YOU PUT YOUR HEADS TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS IS SIGNIFICANT AND JUST DON'T SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THAT'S OUR PROCESS. HOW CAN YOU COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH ME, WITH WITH THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SUPPORT IS MY IS MY QUESTION.

SO I WOULD ASK YOU TO GIVE THAT A LITTLE BIT OF THOUGHT.

ALSO, MY WIFE AND I NORMALLY WORK OUT, I DON'T KNOW, WE GO GO TO LA FITNESS ABOUT 9:00, AND THIS TIME WE DECIDED TO GO EARLY.

IT WAS TWO DAYS IN A ROW DURING RUSH HOUR AT 830.

SO I'M HEADING NORTH ON EMERSON.

MAKE A RIGHT TURN ON MALABAR.

JUST GO SLIGHTLY PAST THE GAS STATION AND IT STOPS.

THE LIGHT WAS A SLIGHT HINDRANCE.

IT WASN'T REALLY TOTALLY OFF, BUT IT WAS OFF SLIGHTLY.

WHAT IT WAS WAS VOLUME, VOLUME, VOLUME AND MORE VOLUME ON THAT.

SO WE HAVE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE COMING IN, BUT THE ROADS DON'T GET ANY BIGGER.

IT TOOK 23 MINUTES FOR ME TO GET TO I 95 FROM THAT SHORT DISTANCE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT, HALF A MILE, LESS THAN HALF A MILE DON'T WANT TO BE UNACCEPTABLE AND IT CONTINUES TO GET WORSE.

SO CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF.

BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE A LITTLE BIT MORE THOROUGH COMMUNICATION WITH REGARD TO SIGNIFICANT MATTERS.

THANK YOU. RIGHT.

GOOD NIGHT, SIR.

ALFRED RAMSEY, GUARD FROM 1680 MAIN STREET.

I MUST SAY THANKS.

TO THE COUNCIL AND THANKS TO THE STAFF FOR APPROVING MY APPLICATION EARLY ON FOR WEEKS.

AND SECONDLY, I MUST SAY WE WERE THE PARK IS CONCERNED.

THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS NEED TO BE DONE BY THE FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

I SPONSOR A SOCCER TEAM DOWN THERE FOR MAYBE 4 OR 5 YEARS CALLED ISLANDER, AND THEY HAVE PROBLEM WITH THE LIGHTING AT NIGHT WHEN THEY'RE PLAYING AND THEY HAVE PROBLEM ON THE FIELD IF IT RAINS.

IT'S LIKE YOU'RE PLAYING RUGBY.

IT'S ALL MODDED.

EVEN WE'RE HAVING THIS EVENT BEHIND THE BUILDING WHEN IT RAINS.

IT'S LIKE A LAKE IN DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

SO THAT'S FUN.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT $1.7 MILLION.

DOES IT ENTERTAIN ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENT ON THE PARK OR WE JUST GO FOR THE FOR THE TRAILER, FOR THE RV PARK BECAUSE THAT THAT PARK NEED A LOT A LOT OF REPAIR, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF YOU KNOW DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND UPGRADING.

AND THE OTHER THING IS WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY OF THAT PARK AND WHAT PROPORTION OF IT ACTUALLY BEING IMPROVE.

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BUT THE I SAID THE EPIDEMIA WAS SAYING THAT FUNDS IS HARD TO SEND BACK.

SO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER WAY YOU CAN USE TO REPAIR THE PARK, THEY GOT A LOT OF SOCCER FIELD THERE, BUT IT'S NOT IN A GOOD SHAPE, ESPECIALLY IF IT RAINS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE, MA'AM, BECAUSE BUTCH HAD MENTIONED THE MUCK THAT WE VACUUMED OUT OF THERE OUT OF THE BAFFLE BOXES THAT ONE OF THE.

I THINK HE'S LOOKING TO FIND THE LOCATION OF WHAT WE DO WITH IT.

SO IF WE COULD GET BACK TO HIM, I WILL GET BACK TO YOU.

OKAY? ALL RIGHT, THEN.

AS FAR AS THE PARK, MR. GARY, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE.

THERE IS THAT 1.7 WAS TO CONSTRUCT THE CAMPGROUND, PERIOD.

AND WE DIDN'T GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, BUT WE DID GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO GO AHEAD AND AND LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT PARK, WHETHER ADDITIONAL FIELDS.

I EVEN MENTIONED A SPLASH PARK OR SOMETHING.

CARRY ON, SIR.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST ONE MORE TIME.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE ONLY CITY IDENTITY THAT ALLOWS A REDRESS.

AT THE END OF A MEETING UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

BRAVO, ZULU, THE ABILITY TO REDRESS YOUR GOVERNMENT.

GOOD JOB ON YOUR PART.

THAT BEING SAID, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CAMPGROUND, I ASKED THE SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT.

IMPACT FEES GOING IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND I WAS TOLD BECAUSE YOU'RE COMBINING THREE, TWO, 908 WITH 32907.

I ASKED SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TOLD IT HAS TO STAY IN YOUR ZIP CODE.

WELL, YOU DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION ON WHERE YOU'RE FUNDING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WAS GOING TO COME FROM.

SO I DIDN'T GET THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? THE SECOND QUESTION WITH THAT ONE WAS, I FIND IT STRANGE YOU CAN COME UP WITH MONEY TO BUILD A BRIDGE INTO A PARK IN THE MILLION DOLLAR RANGE, MULTI MILLION DOLLAR RANGE, BUT YOU CAN'T SOLVE WIDENING SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY OR MALABAR ROAD AT THE ENTRANCE.

I JUST FIND THAT STRANGE.

SO MY QUESTION IS JUST USE THE $1.7 MILLION THAT YOU HAVE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT BACK.

YOU'LL FEEL BETTER. JUST GO AHEAD AND BUILD THE CAMPGROUND SITE, BUILD IT.

YOU'VE GOT IT DONE.

YOU DIDN'T WASTE THE MONEY.

YOU AT LEAST PUT THE CAMPGROUND IN THERE.

YOU DID WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

MIGHT NOT EVER BE USED OR ANYTHING ELSE.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE IT MEETS YOUR STATEMENT OF DON'T LOOK A GIFT HORSE IN THE MOUTH.

I'D RATHER RIDE THAT GIFT HORSE UNTIL HE DROPS DEAD.

ME PERSONALLY.

BUT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON UPGRADING THE SEWER BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE CAMPGROUND.

SO WE EXPANDED THE SEWER.

WE SPENT THAT MONEY COMING IN THERE.

RIGHT. THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE WAS WE'VE ALREADY COME IN WITH HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND WE CLEARED LAND, WE CUT DOWN TREES, TORE OUT STUMPS, MODIFIED THE SITE FOR A CAMPGROUND.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT.

THAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

SO I AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT.

GO AHEAD AND JUST PUT THE CAMPGROUND IN.

BE DONE WITH IT. IT MAY NEVER HAVE ACCESS TO IT, BUT YOU MET YOUR OBJECTIVE OF COMMITMENT TO THE PEOPLE THAT LOANED YOU THE MONEY.

YOU PUT IT IN THERE, YOU'VE DONE IT.

DON'T PUT THE BRIDGE IN BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR IT UNLESS YOU'RE TAKING IT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE OTHER THAN MY ZIP CODE, BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE A COMPOUND COMING IN THAT'S GOING TO NEED PARKS AND RECREATIONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SAY, WELL, WHERE DID IT GO? OH, THAT'S RIGHT.

WE GAVE IT TO THAT FREE PARK THAT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY WITH ANOTHER $2 MILLION OUT OF MY ZIP CODE.

THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

THE ONLY THINGS WE HAVE IN MY AREA, A PAINTBALL YOU GOT TO PAY MONEY TO GO TO THAT'S NOT MOWED A SKATEBOARD.

AND I'M TOO OLD TO BE SKATEBOARDING ON THE OTHER ROLLER AND THE OTHER BICYCLE CART.

CART'S BEEN SHUT DOWN.

THAT'S WHAT'S IN 32908.

THANK YOU. CAN WE ADDRESS THE IMPACT FEES? 3290708 YES, SIR.

THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU CAN USE FUNDING FROM MORE THAN ONE IMPACT FEE DISTRICT BECAUSE THE PROJECT MEETS THE RATIONAL NEXUS TEST TO SERVICE POPULATIONS IN BOTH AREAS.

SO THE SAME WAY WE WERE ABLE TO FUND THE MALABAR ROAD DESIGN IN THE NORTHWEST WITH (329) 073-2908 FUNDING TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE FUNDING IS

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AND BEYOND THAT, IT'S MORE OF A TECHNICAL LEGAL ANSWER.

SO AND THE 32908 IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK.

IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THE ZIP CODES INTERSECT AND TOUCH RIGHT THERE AT THE PARK.

YEAH, RIGHT THERE. OKAY.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.