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[CALL TO ORDER]

[00:00:03]

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER 20, 23, 24, AND WE'RE GOING TO SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

DEPUTY MAYOR, LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE RISE. PLEASE RAISE THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA.

PRESIDENT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER HERE.

MISS SHERMAN HERE.

MISS SMITH HERE.

OKAY. ARE WE GOING TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[PUBLIC HEARING]

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND MS.. SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO FIRST I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM BY READING A STATEMENT.

THIS IS THE ITEM THAT IS RELATED TO OUR TAX RATE, OUR MILLAGE RATE.

SO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS TENTATIVELY ADOPTED AN OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.0171 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.

THE TENTATIVE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 7.0171 EXCEEDS THE TRIM CURRENT YEAR AGGREGATE ROLLED BACK RATE OF 6.8183 BY 2.92%.

THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE BEING ABOVE THE 3% CAP IS CAUSED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE 3% CAP.

CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE INCREASE OVER THE ROLLBACK RATE IS 2.1 MILLION IN HIGH PRIORITY FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS REQUIRING PAYMENT 3.7 MILLION IN CAPITAL FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, PUBLIC SAFETY EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING REQUIRED RADIO REPLACEMENTS, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY INVESTMENTS AND FUNDING TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF FIRE STATION SEVEN ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND INVESTMENTS TOTALING 2.75 MILLION FUNDING REQUIRED FOR POLICE AND FIRE PENSION CONTRIBUTION OBLIGATIONS OF 6.7 MILLION, RESULTING IN A 38.2% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR AND 2.3 MILLION IN PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENTS, INCLUDING NINE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS AND EIGHT ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS ALSO TENTATIVELY ADOPTED A MILLAGE RATE OF 0.9084 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.

THE TENTATIVE DEBT MILLAGE RATE SHALL GENERATE ESTIMATED REVENUES TOTALING $6,972,219, BASED ON THE GROSS TAXABLE VALUE CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE AND ASSUMING AN ESTIMATED 96% COLLECTION RATE.

THESE REVENUES ARE RESTRICTED AND ARE DESIGNATED FOR PAYMENT OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2019 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT TOTALING $3,526,250 AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2021 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT TOTALING $3,446,150, BOTH DUE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET YEAR.

ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE BEEN INVITED TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE, STARTING AT 6 P.M.

IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED AT 120 MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

32907. A FINAL DECISION ON THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE MADE THIS EVENING.

THAT CONCLUDES MY STATEMENT.

AND SO THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS JUST DISCUSSION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER ON THE THE MILLAGE RATES, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME I WANT TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? REGARDING THIS FIRST ITEM.

SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

[BUSINESS]

WE ARE NOW.

EXCUSE ME. ON NUMBER ONE BUSINESS, MADAME SMITH.

RESOLUTION 2023, DASH 29, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 33 FIRE DEPARTMENT RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTIAL RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FEES HAS NO CHANGES IN IT.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THIS ONE CAN MOVE FORWARD PRETTY QUICKLY.

ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

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MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

NUMBER TWO, MISS SMITH.

RESOLUTION 20 2330.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 TO 2024 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION CHAPTER 36 RECREATION DEPARTMENT RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS A NUMBER OF THE ITEMS IN THIS CAME OUT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE DAY TODAY BECAUSE THEY WERE DUE TO AN OVERSIGHT NOT INCLUDED ORIGINALLY.

SO I'LL GO THROUGH A FEW OF THEM.

JUST VERY HIGH LEVEL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THE DIRECTOR IS HERE TO TO COVER THOSE.

THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL FEES WE'VE ADDED IN THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED ORIGINALLY, BUT WE FOUND A NEED TO HAVE THOSE FEES.

YOU'LL SEE WHERE THOSE WERE ADDED IN THAT THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR TO EXISTING FEES OF A SIMILAR TYPE.

ESSENTIALLY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FEES WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO ESSENTIALLY STREAMLINE OUR OPERATIONS BY INSTEAD OF, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PAVILION RENTALS, INSTEAD OF HAVING LOTS OF DIFFERENT PARTS AND PIECES OF THE RENTAL.

WE'VE KIND OF ROLLED IT ALL UP INTO ONE EASY TO UNDERSTAND RATE FOR THAT PARTICULAR ASPECT.

WE'VE CHANGED SOME DETAILS REGARDING THE HOURS OF WHEN YOU CAN RENT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES.

ESSENTIALLY THE GOAL OF A LOT OF THE CHANGES YOU'LL SEE HERE ARE TO STREAMLINE AND MAKE IT SIMPLER FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON TRYING TO COME IN AND RENT SOME OF OUR FACILITIES, PAVILIONS, ROOMS. ET CETERA.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

AND ALSO WHERE THERE ARE CHANGES TO FEES THAT WERE INCREASED, STAFF DID A LOT OF RESEARCH TO COMPARE TO OUR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND, YOU KNOW, KEPT US WITHIN LIKE A REASONABLE PLACE COMPARED TO OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE BE THE HIGHEST PRICE OR THE LOWEST PRICE.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

WELL, THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU JUST ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR, IF I MAY, REAL QUICK, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE WE'VE VIEWED THE FEE SCHEDULES FOR DIFFERENT LOCATION PAVILION AND DIFFERENT DIFFERENT GROUP IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IF A CHURCH VERSUS, YOU KNOW, REGULAR CITIZEN.

IS THERE A DIFFERENCE OR IS THAT STILL THE SAME? I KNOW IN THE PAST WE HAD DIFFERENT FEE SCHEDULE.

WELL, WE STILL DO HAVE SPECIFIC TYPES OF FEES THAT ARE NONPROFIT RATES, SO THEY'RE USUALLY OBVIOUSLY LOWER THAN A TYPICAL RENTAL.

IF YOU WANT MORE DETAILS, CERTAINLY FRED COULD SPEAK TO YOU.

OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD. GILBERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE WAS WHAT WAS THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE FOR RECREATIONS? NOT NOT PARKS AND FACILITIES, BUT JUST FOR RECREATION.

WHAT WAS THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OF THE GENERAL BUDGET THAT GOES FOR RECREATION? I JUST I FOUND OUT I JUST WANT THE COUNCIL TO SAY THAT ONE TIME IN PUBLIC OF WHAT PERCENTAGE AND WHAT THAT AMOUNT COMES TO THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR RECREATION OUT OF OUR GENERAL BUDGET JUST ONCE BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE BROUGHT TO ME.

ON A SIDE NOTE, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN I ASKED THAT.

SO I'D LIKE IT TO BE HEARD IN PUBLIC JUST ONCE.

RIGHT. AND THE OTHER ITEM IS, YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT GIVING SPECIAL PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT JUST BASED ON WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT YOU DO.

I AM ALWAYS AGAINST THAT.

I THINK IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE A A FEE, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FEE.

YOU DETERMINED IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO OPERATE REC OPERATE A RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

WELL, THAT SHOULD BE YOUR FEE FOR THESE SERVICES.

DON'T BE GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT BASED ON YOUR YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEF OR BASED ON YOUR TAX BRACKET OR YOUR NON TAX BRACKET BRACKET IN SOME CASES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I DO RECALL THAT THE RECREATION BUDGET IS ABOUT 2.6 MILLION.

LARRY, DO YOU REMEMBER THE PRESENT, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE OVERALL GENERAL FUND? I DON'T HAVE THAT PERCENTAGE NUMBER OFFHAND.

I'M SORRY. LESS THAN 2%.

CAN WE HAVE SOMEONE COME UP? AND THERE'S ANGELICA.

WE'LL ASK HER. ANGELICA? THERE YOU GO. JUST PRESS THE BUTTON.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

YES. SO IT IS CORRECT.

IT'S 2.6 MILLION.

IT IS ABOUT 2.5%.

2.5%. THANK YOU.

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ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK REGARDING THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2331.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE NINE. GENERAL REGULATIONS CHAPTER 96 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PASSING RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS THE CHANGES TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ORDINANCE OR FEE SCHEDULE? THERE'S JUST A HANDFUL OF THINGS THAT WERE DONE.

FIRST, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDING PERMIT, FEE REDUCTION.

SO IF YOU'RE DOING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TYPE PROJECT, YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY RECEIVE 100% BUILDING PERMIT FEE WAIVER.

THERE IS ALSO SOME NEW LANGUAGE THAT'S ADDED, WHICH IS GOING TO BE HELPFUL, I THINK, FOR THE COMMUNITY WHEN A BUILDER CONTINUES TO WORK AFTER THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN A STOP WORK ORDER.

SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY FEES NOW THAT COULD BE ASSESSED IF THEY KEEP GOING WHEN THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.

AND WE USUALLY ISSUE STOP WORK ORDERS BECAUSE THEY'RE CAUSING SOME HARM TO A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OR OTHER ISSUES.

AND THEN THE LAST COUPLE OF SECTIONS OF THINGS THAT WE CHANGED ARE JUST SOME STREAMLINING REALLY OF OUR PLAN REVIEW FEE AND OUR REINSPECTION FEE PROCESSES.

AND THE DIRECTOR IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU.

OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, JOHN PEARSON, JUST.

HE JUST KILLED JOHN.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING, MR. PEARSON. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF PUTTING THE THE THE FINES FOR THE STOP WORK ORDERS.

WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT.

MY QUESTION, DO YOU FEEL THAT THE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THERE IS SUFFICE OR DO YOU FEEL WE MAY HAVE TO REVISIT IT AND MAKE IT A DAILY. UM, YOU KNOW, A DAILY OCCURRENCE OF FUNDS AT ADDING UP BECAUSE WELL, YOU CAN SPEAK TO WHAT YOU SEE WITH SOME OF THE BUILDERS IF YOU COULD A LITTLE BIT.

SURE. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

AND MISS SHERMAN AND I DID DISCUSS THIS SOME AND CAME UP WITH THIS FEE THAT WE FELT WAS REASONABLE.

UM, PART OF THE STOP WORK ORDER PROCESS WAS ALWAYS INTENDED.

AS WE KNOW, THE BUILDERS WANT TO KEEP MOVING AND OUR STOP WORK ORDER IS TO STOP THEM IF SOMETHING IS AMISS AND SOMETHING THEY NEED TO CORRECT.

SO IT'S IN THEIR BEST INTEREST, OF COURSE, TO GET THAT CORRECTED.

UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THEY JUST GO AHEAD AND SEND CREWS BACK OUT THERE AND THIS FEE IS DESIGNED SO THAT THE FIRST TIME IT'S THE THE $250, IF WE GO BACK THE NEXT DAY AND THEY DO IT AGAIN, THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES UP TO 500.

AND EVERY DAY THAT WE DO IT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT FEE ASSESSED UNTIL THEY STOP DOING IT.

OF COURSE, WE FELT LIKE THAT FEE WAS GOOD ENOUGH, SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD AFFECT THEM SO THAT THEY WOULD COME INTO COMPLIANCE. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE BUILDERS, THEY STILL WILL MAKE MORE MONEY JUST PUSHING THROUGH THAN STOPPING.

SO THAT'S WHY I JUST WANTED TO ASK.

I DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, UNREALISTIC WITH THE FEE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL AS WE'VE SEEN.

BUT YOU AND YOUR STAFF HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB MAKING SURE WHEN WE SEND THE EMAILS OUT UP.

MAYOR, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN SENDING THEM OUT, TOO.

WHEN WE SEND THE EMAILS OUT, YOUR STAFF IS ON IT.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THIS RIGHT HERE, SIR.

THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.

AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY OF THESE BUILDERS THAT ARE HABITUAL OFFENDERS.

AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT GOES INTO EFFECT RIGHT AWAY.

I THINK THAT'S THE KEY.

RIGHT. WHERE'S THE PROFIT MARGIN? RIGHT. IS IT IS IT IS IT OKAY TO KEEP GOING AND TAKE THAT TO $5,500 LOSS? I HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAYING.

AND THEN IT'S THE HABITUAL OFFENDERS.

SOME PEOPLE THEY'LL THEY'LL RESPECT, YOU KNOW, OUR OUR REGULATIONS.

RIGHT. OUR ORDINANCE.

AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU FEEL 250 IS THE SWEET SPOT, THEN WE'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THAT.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THIS TYPE OF FEE AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START.

IF WE SEE THAT THERE'S MORE PROBLEMS, WE CAN ALWAYS ADJUST THAT IF WE NEED TO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JOHN.

YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR? YOU KNOW THE QUESTION MORE PRETEND TO MISS SHERMAN MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

YOU'RE WELCOME. I CAN TELL YOU YOUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER SERVICE, OUTSTANDING.

[00:15:05]

I MANAGED TO LEARN EVERYBODY'S NAME, SO I'M VERY PROUD OF THAT AS WELL.

VERY MUCH FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.

FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SWITCH IT UP ON YOU.

I'LL DO THAT. THAT'S GOOD.

IT TOOK ME THREE MONTHS, SO THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT. KEEP HIM ON HIS TOES, JOHN.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THE QUESTION WAS THE AS FAR AS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS OR BUILDERS, WHEN YOU'RE REFERRING TO PERMIT FEE THAT THAT YOU'RE NOT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED.

I MEAN, IMPACT FEE IS NOT INCLUDING YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST THE APPLICATION FEE.

CORRECT. JUST THE BUILDING PERMIT FEES, NOT IMPACT FEES.

THAT WOULD NOT BE RIGHT.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I JUST WANT IT TO BE BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHEN SOMETIMES THIS IS A BILL THAT YOU PAY IN ONE LUMP SUM, LIKE ONE BILL.

SO ALL COMBINED.

SO I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE MISCONSTRUED AS THAT'S JUST SOME CLARITY ON THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. NAY.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR MS..

SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2332, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE SERIES OF FEES THAT AFFECTS SEVERAL DIFFERENT CHAPTERS IN THE ORDINANCES.

YOU'LL FIND SOME OF THESE CHANGES ARE CREATION OF NEW TYPES OF FEES.

SOME OF THESE WERE NECESSITATED BECAUSE OF ORDINANCE CHANGES WE'VE BEEN DOING RECENTLY THAT CREATE NEW STRUCTURES AND PROCESSES.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE THE FACT THAT NOW WE HAVE LIKE A MINOR SUBDIVISION REVIEW PROCESS WHERE BEFORE WE JUST KIND OF ONE LUMP LUMP TYPE OF REVIEW, I SHOULD SAY SITE PLAN SUBDIVISION.

SO WE HAVE THAT GOING ON.

WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK HOLISTICALLY AT ALL OF OUR FEES AND COMPARED THEM TO THE NEIGHBORING SURROUNDING CITIES TO SEE WHERE WE WERE AT.

THERE WERE SOME WE KNEW HAD NOT BEEN TOUCHED FOR A LONG TIME.

THEY WERE PRETTY LOW. SO WE'VE WE'VE LIFTED SOME OF THOSE UP.

AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT DEVELOPERS WOULD PAY TO DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY.

SO WE MADE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.

WE'VE ALSO, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN BUILDING KIND OF STREAMLINED OUR DRIVEWAY PERMITTING PROCESS IN TERMS OF THE THE FIRST THE REINSPECTION FEE, THERE IS NONE IF YOU IF YOU MESS UP THE FIRST TIME.

BUT THEN AFTER THAT, IT GRADUALLY GOES UP FOR A SECOND, THIRD OR FOURTH THAT IT INCREASES IN YOUR THE FEE THAT YOU PAY.

SO IF YOU DON'T GET IT RIGHT THE SECOND, THIRD TIME, IT JUST YOU PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO OVERALL, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT THE GIST OF THESE ARE THINGS WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE A FEE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE WE NEEDED TO HAVE A FEE OR MOSTLY ADJUSTMENTS TO BE BE MORE COMPARABLE TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN TERMS OF THE CHARGE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? COME ON, STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.

WHEN YOU'RE JUST SORRY.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

WHEN THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THESE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR IMPACT FEES AND STUFF LIKE THIS, SOMETIMES THEY'LL DO A PROJECT WHERE THEY'LL GET CERTAIN THINGS WAIVED IF THEY EXPAND, IF THEY EXPAND THEIR COST.

MY QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT DEGREE THAT EXPANSION THAT THEY OVERRIDE OFF AND SAY THEY WILL WRITE THIS OFF BECAUSE YOU'VE COVERED THAT FEE IN YOUR EXPANSION OF COSTS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? MAYOR, CAN I CLARIFY? YES. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IMPACT FEES SPECIFICALLY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IMPACT FEES OR YOUR.

I PREFER IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ACROSS THE BOARD.

BUT SOMETIMES WE'LL DO UNDER FARE SHARE FEES AND STUFF LIKE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF VERY MUCH SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE STILL WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE IT COMES IN THE SAME BUSHEL BASKET, BUT THERE'S ORANGES AND APPLES MIXED TOGETHER.

BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE BUILDER PAYS, IT'S STILL JUST A ONE CHECK ITEM.

HOW DO WE DETERMINE HOW THAT GETS BROKE DOWN? I THINK I'M CLEAR. YOU DETERMINE THAT GETS BROKE DOWN BECAUSE IT'S NOT US.

OKAY. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

SO TECHNICALLY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS ITEM WE'RE ON NOW DOES NOT INCLUDE IMPACT FEES.

THAT'S THE NEXT ONE. BUT IF YOU'RE OKAY, I'LL ANSWER IT.

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SO, YEAH, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE FEE STRUCTURE FOR IMPACT FEES AND THERE ARE SEVERAL TYPES OF IMPACT FEES.

AS WE KNOW, THERE ARE IMPACT FEES FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND TRANSPORTATION AND PARKS.

AND THEN UTILITIES HAS THEIR OWN SET OF FEES RELATED TO TO WATER AND WASTEWATER.

ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A VERY BASIC MATH CALCULATION BASED ON THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR A COMMERCIAL ENTITY.

AND THERE'S THE FEE, THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT YOU'LL ADOPT ON THE NEXT ITEM INCLUDES HOW YOU CALCULATE THAT JUST BASIC SURFACE VALUE BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT SITE.

BEYOND THAT, THOUGH, THERE ARE CALCULATIONS THAT WE DO RELATED TO IMPACTS BEYOND THE SPECIFIC SITE AND BEYOND THOSE CORE IMPACT FEES THAT THAT WE END UP CALCULATING.

SO IT INVOLVES A LOT OF ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN COUNCIL MEETINGS REGARDING DEVELOPMENT BEFORE, AND WE'VE BROUGHT YOU DIFFERENT TYPES OF AGREEMENTS.

SOMETIMES WE CALL THEM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE IMPACT FEE AGREEMENTS, SOMETIMES THEY'RE PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE AGREEMENTS.

BUT THE GIST OF ALL OF THAT IS SOMETIMES DEVELOPERS WILL END UP CREATING SOMETHING OR CONTRIBUTING TO SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND WHAT IS SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED FOR THEIR SITE.

AND IN THOSE PARTICULAR INSTANCES, THEY CAN GET IMPACT FEE CREDITS.

IN SOME SITUATIONS, THEY WILL PAY DIRECTLY TO THE CITY THE VALUE OF THE IMPACT FEES, OR THEY WILL ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT SOMETHING THAT HAS AN EQUIVALENT NUMBER RELATED TO THEIR IMPACT FEE VALUE.

SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON EVERY SITUATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

AN EASY EXAMPLE WOULD BE, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKS IMPACT FEES.

IF A DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BUILD A PARK THAT IS GOING TO BE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE IN A SUBDIVISION AND THAT MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE VALUE OF THOSE PARKS IMPACT FEES, THEN THEY WON'T HAVE TO PAY US THE IMPACT FEES.

THEIR CONTRIBUTION BECOMES THE PARK THAT THEY BUILT, ESSENTIALLY.

AND I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE'S THERE'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF MATH TO IT.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING BEYOND JUST THE CALCULATION THAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION FOR HOW THOSE FEES ARE CALCULATED, IT'S DEFINITELY A PROCESS ON THE CITY SIDE THAT INVOLVES IT INVOLVES ENGINEERS FOR THE DEVELOPERS, ENGINEERS FOR THE CITY, AS WELL AS STAFFING, DEPENDING ON WHICH TYPE OF IMPACT FEE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND IT ALL GOES THROUGH A LEGAL REVIEW WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL AS AGREEMENTS.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

HI. HI. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MS.. SMITH. RESOLUTION 2023, DASH 33, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHAPTER 171 FAIR SHARE IMPACT FEES RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PASSING RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS THE ITEM RELATED TO OUR IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE AND FEES.

AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES AT THIS TIME.

YES, MA'AM. AND PART OF THAT IS WE AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED FOR A DIFFERENT STUDY REGARDING THE INCREASE OF THAT BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING COSTS A LOT MORE.

SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT STUDY? YES, SIR. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY STUDYING.

WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, CONSULTANTS THAT WE'VE HIRED.

ONE IS DOING SPECIFICALLY THE TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES.

THE OTHER IS DOING THE GROUP OF THREE, THAT IS POLICE, FIRE AND PARKS IMPACT FEES.

SO TWO DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS, THEY'RE BOTH KIND OF WE'VE HAD THEM BOTH ON THE SAME GENERAL SCHEDULE.

SO THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF DATA COLLECTION FROM STAFF OVER THE SUMMER.

THE EXPECTATION IS THEY WILL BE DONE WITH THE STUDIES SOMETIME IN THE DECEMBER, JANUARY TIMEFRAME, AT WHICH POINT WE'LL COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND REVIEW THOSE WITH YOU AND PRESENT THOSE TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION.

SO REALISTICALLY, BY NEXT NEXT YEAR, 2024, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2023, DASH 34, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY NAVARRO COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS SPECIFIED HEREIN RESCINDING

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RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS WHAT WE CALL OUR MISCELLANEOUS FEE SCHEDULE.

IT HAS A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT TOPICS.

THERE ARE REALLY JUST FOUR MINOR FOUR THINGS THAT ARE CHANGING.

THE FIRST IS OUR REPUBLIC SOLID WASTE CONTRACT.

THE FEES GO UP ANNUALLY AT 3%, SO THOSE RATES ARE INCLUDED FOR CHAPTER 150.

ALSO, THERE WERE SOME FIRE TESTING COSTS FOR PERSONNEL WHO WERE TESTING TO BECOME EMPLOYED WITH US.

THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED.

WE ALSO HAVE ADDED THE FEE STRUCTURE, PERCENTAGE BASED FEE STRUCTURE THAT RELATES TO THE DEBT COLLECTION SERVICES THAT WE USE.

HAVING THAT IN THERE ENABLES US TO PASS THOSE COSTS ALONG TO THOSE THAT THE DEBT COLLECTOR IS GOING TO TO COLLECT THE DEBT FROM.

AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WERE SOME MINOR INCREASES TO A COUPLE OF FEES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CHARGES.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL.

OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

THIS ONE I'M KIND OF RELATING BACK TO LAST NIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, WHERE WE HAD HALF $1 MILLION FOR THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER FOR THE REPUBLIC THAT WE WANTED FUNDS TRANSFERRED. WAS THIS WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER REPUBLIC'S FEE? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE KEEPING THESE ALMOST THE SAME WHEN A PURSE OR GRANTS.

WAS THAT WHAT THIS THIS RESOLUTION WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COVERING WAS THE REPUBLIC'S FEE THAT WE PAY OUT? MADAM CHAIRMAN, SO RELATED, BUT TWO SEPARATE TOPICS.

SO LAST, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR RATES ARE BASED ON LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED FEE SCHEDULE PER THE CONTRACT.

SO WE'VE BEEN PAYING THOSE FEES EVERY MONTH.

AS WE THE BILLING GOES OUT, THE RESIDENTS PAY US, WE PAY BACK TO REPUBLIC.

WE'VE BEEN PAYING AT THE RATES FOR THE CURRENTLY CURRENT ADOPTED YEAR.

WE'VE HAD AN INCREASE IN NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS THAT EXCEEDED WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED.

SO THAT'S WHY THAT TRANSFER HAPPENED LAST NIGHT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING TO PULL MONEY OUT OF THE SOLID WASTE FUND AND PUT IT TOWARD THE ACTUAL PAYMENT OF THE LAST BILL OF THE YEAR.

THIS IS JUST WHAT WE WERE DOING TO ADOPT THE NEW FEES, THE NEW RATES FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR.

SO STARTING OCTOBER 1ST.

SO THE RATES WERE ADOPTING TONIGHT FOR THE THE SOLID WASTE SERVICE ARE NOT RELATED TO THE RATES THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING THIS THIS WEEK, THIS YEAR. WILL THAT BE REIMBURSED BACK INTO THE REPUBLIC BILL? WILL IT BE REIMBURSED BACK IN MAYBE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

I'M SORRY. YOU WANT TO TRY ME AGAIN ONE MORE TIME? BECAUSE LAST NIGHT UNDER CONSENT AGENDA, WE TOOK ALMOST A HALF $1 MILLION OUT TO PAY FOR THE REPUBLIC SERVICES.

BUT NOW WE WANT TO USE OUR SOLID WASTE FUND TO TO PAY OUR SEPTEMBER REPUBLIC'S BILL.

IS THAT GOING TO BE REIMBURSED BACK INTO THAT ACCOUNT BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER? THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION IS. OR WAS IT JUST WELL, THIS TIME WE'RE JUST USING ANOTHER FUND TO PAY FOR THAT BILL, SO MAYBE IT'LL HELP IF I TELL YOU HOW THAT WORKS.

SO WE ALWAYS WE WE HAVE FOR YEARS NOW ALL THE SOLID WASTE TRANSACTIONS COME OUT OF ONE FUND.

IT HAPPENS ALL. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE GENERAL FUND.

SO IF YOU PAY YOUR BILL THAT GOES INTO THE SOLID WASTE FUND, YOU AS A RESIDENT, IF THE CITY WRITES THE THE THE CHECK TO REPUBLIC THAT COMES OUT OF THE SOLID WASTE FUND.

SO THERE ARE RESERVES IN THE SOLID WASTE FUND AS WELL THAT WE USE TO COVER DIFFERENT COSTS AND THINGS INCLUDING IF IF WE NEED TO PAY IF WE WE DIDN'T BUDGET PROPERLY FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE THE RESIDENT POPULATION GREW, WE HAVE MORE ACCOUNTS.

WE PULL THAT MONEY OUT OF THE SOLID WASTE FUND.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY ALL PART OF A HOLISTIC PACKAGE OF FUNDING REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

YEAH, IT DOESN'T RELATE TO THE GENERAL FUND THOUGH.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM? I NEED A MOTION SO MOVED.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM SEVEN, MISS SMITH.

RESOLUTION 20 2335, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS IN THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024.

RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT ADOPTS OUR CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS AND POSITION CONTROL.

SO ESSENTIALLY IT INCLUDES THE LISTS AND THE DETAILS OF ALL THE NAMES OF POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE, THE PAY GRADES.

THOSE POSITIONS ARE AT.

IT INCLUDES THE ENTIRE COUNT OF POSITIONS CITYWIDE BY DEPARTMENT, BY FUND, AND INCLUDES THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

COUNCILOR, ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2336.

THANK YOU, JESUS.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTED A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE RESOLUTION TO ADOPT OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM, AND THE DETAIL IS ALL ATTACHED TO THIS ITEM. AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE AGENDA MEMO THE BREAKDOWN BY FUND.

THE BULK OF THIS CIP PROGRAM IS THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

AND AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE RECENTLY CAME TO COUNCIL WITH A DIFFERENT STRATEGY TO TRY TO TACKLE SOME OF OUR OUTSTANDING CAPITAL NEEDS SO THAT THAT WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT'S BEEN HANDLED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY OUTSIDE OF THIS PROCESS.

BUT THOSE THOSE WILL BE REFLECTED IN A QUARTERLY UPDATE TO THE CIP PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

HI. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MISS SMITH RESOLUTION 20 2337, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, LEVYING THE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE RATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES IN THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF STATE LAW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. AS I MENTIONED AT THE START OF THE MEETING, THIS IS THE GOING TO BE THE ACTUAL APPROVAL ADOPTION OF THE MILLAGE RATES.

SO JUST TO RESTATE IT FOR THE RECORD, THE FY 2024 AD VALOREM OPERATING MILLAGE RATE WOULD BE 7.0171, AND THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE FOR THE GO ROAD BOND PROGRAM WOULD BE 0.9084.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK COUNCIL? ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE AD VALOREM OPERATING MILLAGE RATE AT 7.0171 AND THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE AT 0.9084 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 TO 2024.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. NAY.

PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.

MS.. SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

SO, AS REQUESTED, THIS IS THE LIST OF ALL OF THE TRAVEL AND TRAINING COSTS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IS BROKEN DOWN BY DEPARTMENTS, BUT THE DETAILS OF THE ANTICIPATED COSTS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL TYPE OF TRAINING AND WHERE THE TRAINING, WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING IT IS, ARE ALL INCLUDED.

TWO THINGS I WAS GOING TO MENTION HERE ON THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, IN COMPARISON TO LAST YEAR'S APPROVED FISCAL YEAR, 23 AMOUNTS, THE OVERALL TOTAL TRAVEL TRAINING CITYWIDE, ALL FUNDS FOR $35,000 LESS THIS YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, JUST AS A GENERAL STATEMENT.

ALSO, WE ARE IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

WE'RE RUNNING WE'RE RUNNING LESS THAN WHAT WE BUDGETED ON THE COST FOR OUR TRAVEL AND TRAINING.

SOME OF THAT HAS JUST BEEN STAFFING CHANGES.

SOME OF IT'S RELATED TO THE COSTS OF THINGS BEING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AT THE START OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

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BUT THE GOOD NEWS AND YOU'VE SEEN THIS IN YOUR QUARTERLY TRAVEL TRAINING REPORTS, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE ARE WELL BELOW WHAT WAS BUDGETED FOR THE YEAR.

AND THE LAST THING I WOULD I WOULD MENTION TO YOU IS IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS ADOPTION PROCESS LAST YEAR TO BRING YOU THESE DETAILS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

IF YOU ARE GOOD WITH THIS BEING AN ANNUAL PROCESS, WE CAN DO THAT.

AS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24, SO WE WANT TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHETHER YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO HAVE QUARTERLY REPORTS.

IT DOES TAKE A BIT OF STAFF TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THOSE RECORDS AND PULL ALL THOSE DETAILS AND GIVE THOSE TO YOU.

BUT IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SEEING THOSE OR IF YOU'RE FINE WITH JUST ADOPTING IT HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR, GIVING US THAT AUTHORITY TO SPEND AND THEN WE COME BACK TO YOU IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES LIKE WE HAVE BEEN.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE COME BACK, IF THERE'S A NEW TRAINING THAT WASN'T ON THE LIST, WE COME BACK AND WE ASK YOU IF WE CAN DO THAT PARTICULAR TRAINING.

WE ALSO COME BACK TO YOU IF FOR SOME REASON THE ANTICIPATED COST THAT YOU APPROVE HERE TONIGHT ARE HIGHER THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED.

SO WE ALREADY COME BACK TO YOU FOR THOSE ITEMS. SO THAT WOULD JUST BE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IF YOU THIS WAS.

FIRST YEAR, WE ACTUALLY DID QUARTERLY REPORTS TO YOU ALL.

IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO SEE THAT CONTINUE OR IF IT'S, YOU KNOW.

YES, SIR. YEAH. BEFORE YOU GO FIRST.

BEFORE THAT, WE WOULD DO IT EVERY TRAINING CYCLE, RIGHT? EVERY. WELL, HISTORICALLY, WE WERE COMING BACK ALL THE TIME FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO STREAMLINE AND NOT HAVE AS MUCH ON THE AGENDAS, WHICH IS, I THINK, WHAT LED US TO THAT QUARTERLY APPROACH.

SO YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? YES, MAYOR. I'M FINE WITH THE ANNUAL BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE CAN ALWAYS REFER BACK TO THIS DOCUMENT RIGHT HERE AT ANY MOMENT OR ANY TIME.

BUT IF THERE IS A CHANGE, IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE US AND IT WILL BE PUBLIC FOR EVERYBODY.

SO WE HAVE A LIST FROM A TO Z FOR EACH DEPARTMENT OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

SO I'M FINE WITH IT BEING ANNUAL.

I'M MORE ON THE LET'S TAKE BABY STEPS ON THIS.

WE WENT FROM, YOU KNOW, EVERY EVERY TRANSACTION COMING BEFORE US TO QUARTERLY, MAYBE COMPILE IT EVERY SIX MONTHS AND DO IT SEMIANNUAL INSTEAD OF JUST ONCE A YEAR.

SO YOU'RE SAYING BREAK THIS UP INTO 2 IN 2 PARTS AS WE GO ALONG THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? BECAUSE MY THING, WE DID IT THIS WAY LAST YEAR, BUT THEN SHE STILL BROUGHT IT.

SHE STILL JUST FOR US TO SEE.

BUT WE CAN SEE IT OURSELVES BY JUST BRINGING YOU KNOW, BY PULLING UP THE DOCUMENTATION.

THAT WAS MY. YEAH, NO, AND I GET THAT AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE BRING IT UP, WE'RE LETTING THE PEOPLE KNOW.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

WE'RE LETTING THEM KNOW EVEN THOUGH THERE'S JUST CHANGES.

BUT AT LEAST IT'S ANOTHER LAYER OF, YOU KNOW, HERE'S SIX MONTHS DOWN RANGE, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

OKAY. BUT THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

SEMIANNUAL. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE AT.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S ABOUT GIVING THE PUBLIC, NOT JUST US.

RIGHT? THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

OKAY. MAYOR, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, DO THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS NOT PUBLIC RECORD.

IS THE PUBLIC HAVE ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION? YES. THIS IS A PUBLISHED AGENDA.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS ALL PUBLIC.

THAT REPORT SO WELL, EVERYTHING WE DO IS PUBLIC RECORD PRETTY MUCH, UNLESS IT'S EXEMPT OVER FOR SOME LEGAL REASONS.

BUT SO LIKE THOSE REPORTS THAT WE WERE GIVING YOU EVERY THREE MONTHS THAT SHOWED THE THE COMPARISON OF WHAT WAS BUDGETED VERSUS WHAT THE ACTUAL EXPENSE WAS FOR ALL THE TRAVEL TRAINING THAT HAD OCCURRED IN THAT QUARTER THAT WAS PUBLISHED AS PART OF YOUR YOUR AGENDA PACKET FOR THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

IF ANYBODY NEEDS TO SEE THAT OR REQUEST INFORMATION THAT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, THEY JUST HAVE TO ASK US.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THE NORMAL RECORD REQUEST PROCESS AND HAVE TO PAY FOR IT AND SUCH.

OKAY. OKAY.

SOMETHING THAT'S SIMPLE, THOUGH, IT USUALLY DOESN'T HAVE A COST.

IF IT'S JUST A QUICK YOU KNOW, I WOULD LEAN ON ON WHAT WE APPROVED TONIGHT BECAUSE THE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES TO WHAT YOU APPROVE WILL ALL BE BROUGHT FORWARD TO US AND WE HAVE TO GO DISCUSS IT OR APPROVE IT. AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

ANYTHING THAT CAN IMPROVE EFFICIENCY, I'M I'M FOR THAT.

OKAY. I'M NOT GOING TO DIE ON A HILL FOR SIX MONTHS.

RIGHT. IT MAKES NO SENSE.

I'M JUST SAYING.

SIX MONTHS A YEAR.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? RIGHT? AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I GET THAT.

THE PUBLIC WILL ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

I'M JUST. JUST ANOTHER LAYER FROM WHERE WE WERE.

ALWAYS DISPLAYING EVERY TRAVEL.

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AND THEN NOW WE COULD DO IT EVERY SIX MONTHS.

THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE I WAS AT.

BUT IF COUNCIL SO CHOOSES TO DO IT ONCE A YEAR, I'M NOT GOING TO DIE ON THIS HILL.

MAKES NO SENSE.

I'M JUST THINKING IT'S SOMETHING THAT APPLIES TO TRANSPARENCY AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

SO, YES, SIR.

CARRY ON. COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YEAH, I THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

EVERY SIX MONTHS.

SEMIANNUALLY. I THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK IS A BETTER TRANSPARENCY.

YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE WE STAND WE GO ANNUALLY.

WE DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND.

UPDATE AS AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR.

SO I'D RATHER DO IT EVERY SIX MONTHS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. YES.

YES. MAYOR, JUST I WANT TO GIVE CLARITY.

WE'RE WE'RE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

CORRECT. SO IT'S A ONE TIME PAY ON ALL THESE TRAINING ITEMS. RIGHT NOW WE'RE BUDGETING. WELL, WE'RE BUDGETING.

YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. YEP.

WE'RE BUDGETING FOR EVERY TRAINING ITEM RIGHT NOW.

IT'LL JUST BE I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING IS IN SIX MONTHS, HEY, THESE WERE THESE ARE THE ITEMS FROM OCTOBER 1ST TO APRIL 1ST, 2024.

THESE ARE THE TRAINING ITEMS THAT YOUR CITY STAFF ARE GOING TO.

CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. CITY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

AND THEN FROM APRIL 1ST, I'LL PROBABLY MESS UP THE DATES.

BUT APRIL 1ST TO OCTOBER 1ST, 2024.

BUT THOSE ARE ALREADY HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND EVERYTHING AND ONLY TIME WILL BE VOTING TO CHANGE ANYTHING IS IF IT'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO ADD SOMETHING.

CORRECT? OKAY.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

BECAUSE LISTENING.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. IS HE ON THE LINE? YES. OKAY.

OKAY. BECAUSE IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU WERE.

WE WON'T BE VOTING EVERY SIX, SIX MONTHS.

IT'S JUST THAT IT BEING PUBLISHED.

CORRECT. PUBLISHED EVERY SIX MONTHS.

YOU. YEAH, THAT'S WHERE.

THAT'S OKAY.

WELL, ARE WE GOOD? UM, I STILL FEEL SINCE WE'RE.

YEAH, BUT OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO BE A TIE.

SO. SO THAT'S.

THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF.

FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO MR. BATTEN'S POINT. I KNOW HE'S GOING TO GET US EVENTUALLY WHEN HE GETS BACK UP HERE, SO I'LL SAY IT BEFORE HE DOES SO.

SO ALL RIGHT.

SO SIX, SIX MONTHS.

SIX MONTHS. YEAH. YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT'S SIX MONTHS IS GOOD.

I NEED A MOTION OR.

HOLD ON. PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YES, SIR. STEP RIGHT UP.

YEAH, I'LL BE NICE AND NOT MAKE THE SAME BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST. THIS ALSO RELATES BACK TO LAST NIGHT WHERE YOU GOT THE $1.25 MILLION GRANT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLANNING ON DOING WITH THAT ONE.

WAS THERE A TRAINING MAKING THE TRAINING DEPARTMENT AT THE AT THE GUN RANGE, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLEVIATE DO A WHOLE BUNCH OF GOOD FOR THE CITY? ONE, WE WON'T HAVE TO SEND OUR POLICE FORCE OUT, WHICH SAVES ON THAT TRAVEL EXPENSE.

I WANT TO SEE THAT BUDGET GO DOWN ON THAT SIDE OF IT JUST BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD NOW, I'M GOING TO BE WATCHING BUDGETS.

SO THAT'S I'M GOING TO WATCH.

SO I'D EXPECT TO SEE THAT BUDGET START GOING DOWN BECAUSE OF THIS THIS GRANT, BECAUSE WE'LL BE HOLDING OUR POLICE TRAINING THERE.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S COMING OUT OF IT, I'M HOPING, IS BECAUSE WE'VE INCREASED THE TRAINING FACILITIES, IS THAT NOW WE'LL BE SPONSORING THE TRAINING COMING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH MEANS WE'LL BE GENERATING FUNDS.

AND I DON'T KNOW, DO WE WANT THOSE FUNDS TO BE GENERATED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SUPPORT OF THEM, OR DO WE WANT THAT FUNDS TO BE GENERATED FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH COULD LOWER OUR TOTAL TRAVEL AND TRAINING MECHANISM? I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY WHICH WITH THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT IS A GOOD THING.

DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ONE BIT ABOUT IT.

IT'S A FANTASTIC ACCOMPLISHMENT.

BUT I WANT TO JUST SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START PUTTING THAT FUND BALANCE BACK, NOT BALANCE, BUT THAT GENERATED FUND.

WHERE'S IT GOING TO GO? IT WILL SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THAT'S WHO GOT IT.

THAT'S WHO'S EARNING IT. WE COULD USE IT THERE, BUT WE COULD ALSO USE IT FOR THIS TOTAL TRAVEL AND TRAINING FOR FISCAL YEAR ON LOWERING OF THAT BUDGET LINE.

ALSO JUST TRYING TO BE YOUR CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, SIR.

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ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE FY 2024 DEPARTMENTAL TRAINING, TRAVEL DETAILS AND BUDGET COSTS AND AUTHORIZED TRAINING AND TRAVEL EXPENDITURE AS OUTLINED IN EXHIBIT A.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DEPUTY MAYOR.

ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, MAYOR? NOTHING IN ADDITION OF WHAT I PREVIOUSLY STATED.

OKAY. AND SO IT'S SEMIANNUAL.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DISCUSSION REFERRING BACK TO THE POLICE REGIONAL EXPANSION THAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE, WE'LL SAVE ON COSTS WHEN WE HOST THESE REGIONAL ACTIVITIES.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FUND GENERATOR.

IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF WE'RE SAVING THE MONEY THAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD BE SENDING OUT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? CAN YOU JUST.

YES, IT'S ACTUALLY TWO CATEGORIES OF SAVINGS.

ONE IS WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO SEND THEM PLACES.

SO HOTEL TRAVEL, ET CETERA.

THAT COST GETS REDUCED.

BUT EVEN BETTER FOR US IS THAT WHEN WE HOST SOME OF THESE TRAININGS, SOMETIMES WE GET REDUCED REGISTRATION FEES OR SOMETIMES BECAUSE WE ARE THE HOST FACILITY, WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO TO EVEN HAVE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE CLASS.

SO IT WILL DEFINITELY HELP.

DEFINITELY HELP. BUT IT'S NOT A FUN GENERATOR, CORRECT? IT'S NOT A REVENUE GENERATOR, TYPICALLY.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. COUNT.

ALL OPPOSED. SAY NAY.

NAY. COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. AND.

NO. WAIT.

THIS IS ON A SIX MONTH.

YES. ANNUAL.

YEAH, WE'RE DOING SIX MONTHS.

IS IT SIX MONTHS? I COULDN'T HEAR. YES, IT'S SIX MONTHS SEMI.

OKAY. IF IT'S SIX MONTHS, I.

OKAY. PASSES.

THREE, TWO, ONE. THANK YOU.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER ONE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 20 2386 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE CHAPTER 200 UTILITIES CODE BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEMS AND SERVICES, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MISS SHERMAN TO PRESENT THIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS IS FINAL READING FOR THE SERIES OF THREE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES WHERE WE ADJUST OUR FEES FOR THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, AS I MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING. CHAPTER 200, WHICH WE'RE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW, IS FOR WATER AND SEWER USER RATES AND MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES.

THOSE RATES, IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY ANALYSIS AND OUR MULTI YEAR PLAN TO KEEP UP WITH THE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT.

THEY ESCALATE BY 1.75% FOR WATER AND 3.75% FOR SEWER.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING.

NUMBER TWO, MS..

SMITH. ORDINANCE 20 2387 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE CHAPTER 201 SEWER CODE.

SUBCHAPTER MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS BY ADJUSTING THE PERMIT FEES AND OTHER CHARGES RELATED TO THE CITY'S UTILITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MS..

SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS ALSO FINAL READING FOR CHAPTER 201, WHICH HAS MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES RELATED TO UTILITIES OPERATIONS.

THESE FEES ARE INCREASING IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION'S APPROVED PRICE INDEX, WHICH IS 7.07%.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION SO MOVED.

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SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ORDINANCE 20. YES.

SORRY. ORDINANCE 20 2388.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 202 RECLAIMED WATER BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR RECLAIMED WATER, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MS..

SHERMAN. THANK YOU.

THIS IS FOR THE RECLAIMED WATER RATES THAT ARE IN CHAPTER 202.

BECAUSE THESE RECLAIMED WATER RATES ARE A COMPONENT OF SEWER.

THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSED INCREASED BY 3.75%.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

I UNDERSTAND WHY WE END UP WITH THE RECLAIMED WATERS, GUNS GONE THROUGH THE WATER TREATMENT PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING RETURNED BACK OUT.

BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS WE HAVE SUCH SMALL QUANTITY OF RECLAIMED WATER USERS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS WATER, WHICH IS HEARTBREAKING TO AN ENVIRONMENTALIST LIKE BILL BATTON, IS THAT WE END UP PUTTING THIS DOWN TO DEEP WELL INJECTION FOR WHAT WE CAN'T PUT BACK OUT INTO THE SURFACE TO SURFACE USE. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMEHOW, SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IS COSTING BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR IT, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE PAYING ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM IT.

EVEN THOUGH WE'VE USED THIS THIS SOURCE, WE'RE LOSING THAT NATURAL RESOURCE.

BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN A DEEP WELL INJECTION.

IT'S GONE. WE WE CAN'T RECLAIM IT BACK.

SO IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENT WAY, WE COULD UTILIZE THAT.

WE CAN'T JUST PUMP IT INTO THE URL AND WE CAN'T JUST PUMP IT INTO A DITCH RUNOFF.

BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN WE USE IT ON A SPRINKLER SYSTEM, ON A GOLF COURSE OR WHEREVER WE'RE DOING IT, WE'RE JUST PUTTING IT RIGHT BACK OUT INTO MOTHER NATURE INSTEAD OF DOWN A DEEP WELL INJECTION.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD UTILIZE THIS WATER IN ANOTHER MANNER THAT WASN'T SO WASTEFUL WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCE.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I KNOW WE CAN'T AFFORD TO PUT SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN FOR EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WOULD NOT BE PRACTICAL.

BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THIS WATER THAT'S BEEN TREATED AND WE'RE WASTING IT.

LET'S DON'T WASTE IT. LET'S FIND ANOTHER WAY TO PUT IT SOMEPLACE WHERE IT'S NOT GONE FOREVER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT TO CALL UP MR. LITTLE? HE LOOKS LIKE HE WANTS TO COME UP, SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CERTAINLY HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.

ABSOLUTELY. SO I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. IT HAS BEEN A DIFFICULT TASK, ESPECIALLY IN NORTHEAST PALM BAY, TO FIND USERS FOR THE RECLAIMED WATER.

OUR PERMIT FOR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IN THE NORTHEAST EXPIRES NEXT YEAR.

WE HAVE AS PART OF THE TASK TO RENEW IT A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR RECLAIMED WATER.

AND WE WILL WORK WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO TRY TO FIND ALTERNATIVE USERS THAT CAN USE THE WATER INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT DOWN THE DEEP WELL.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR DECADES FOR THE CITY TO TRY TO FIND PEOPLE THAT CAN USE THAT WATER.

AND THEN. COPY THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. MISS SHERMAN, IF I MAY CARRY ON NOW, DO YOU FIND IS IT COSTS A MATTER IN THAT BEING ABLE TO FIND USERS AND USERS FOR THIS.

SO PART OF IT IS THE QUALITY.

AGAIN, I THINK THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT COOLING TOWERS, WHERE THE QUALITY OF THE RECLAIMED WATER, THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE WATER WILL FOUL THE PROCESSES OF COOLING TOWERS.

THE OTHER ISSUE IS, IS WE DO NOT HAVE MANY PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NORTH EAST PART OF THE CITY WHERE THEY HAVE CENTRALIZED IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT WE COULD QUICKLY PLUG IN. IT'S I WOULD CALL IT SPRAWL, BUT IT'S JUST STREETS WITH HOMES.

AND WHEN YOU TRY TO EXTEND LINES AND THEN ASK PEOPLE TO CONNECT, THE INTEREST IS JUST NOT THERE.

BACK IN 2007, 2008, A SURVEY WAS PUT OUT AS PART OF ONE OF THE MASTER PLANS TO TRY TO FIND PEOPLE THAT WOULD USE IT, AND THERE WAS JUST NO INTEREST IN IT FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.

AND THEN THE INDUSTRIAL USERS AROUND KIRBY CIRCLE, WE TALKED ABOUT MR ASSEMBLY.

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WE TRIED TO APPROACH THEM AGAIN.

THE WATER QUALITY WAS TOO LOW TO BE USED IN THEIR PROCESSES.

THERE'S JUST NOT INTEREST IN THE QUALITY.

AND TO GET IT TO THAT, TO GET IT TO THAT QUALITY, IT'D BE VERY EXPENSIVE FOR US JUST TO MAKE IT.

OKAY, DIRECT A LITTLE.

I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH MR. BATTEN, BUT THIS IS ONE ITEM THAT I THINK IT'S JUST TOO IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE SCARCITY FOR NATURAL THAT THAT PARTICULAR NATURAL RESOURCE IS TO TO, YOU KNOW, KNOWINGLY WASTED.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE LIMITED FUNDING AND THERE'S A LOT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

BUT IF THERE'S ANY CREATIVE WAY WE CAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CERTAINLY NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT AND SEE WHETHER IT'S INCENTIVIZE THOSE COMMUNITIES OR HOWEVER OR EVEN IMPROVE OUR QUALITY TO MAKE IT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, AN ACCEPTABLE STANDARD LIKE A SAYING THAT PARTICULAR ENTITY YOU REFERRED TO CAN THINK OF A NAME, BUT WHATEVER WE CAN DO, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WORTH MORE DISCUSSION.

WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO THAT JUST TOO IMPORTANT OF RESOURCE CONSIDERING WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR STATE REALLY WITH WATER TO JUST TO WASTE IT.

SO MY MY ONE LAST QUESTION.

YOU REFERRED TO THE NORTHEAST.

WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY AS FAR AS THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT? ARE THEY ALL ALL CONNECTED OR NO? SO WE'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT THE SOUTH REGIONAL CAMPUS.

IT WILL HAVE RECLAIMED WATER AVAILABILITY AND THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS IN BAYSIDE.

MANY OF THEM HAVE CENTRALIZED SYSTEMS TO WHERE WHEN WE EXTEND OUR SERVICE LINES, THEY ARE OBLIGATED GENERALLY BY THEIR CUP TO USE A LESSER QUALITY WATER, WHICH WOULD BE RECLAIMED WATER.

AND THEY CAN TIE INTO OUR SYSTEM AND USE IT AND WITH RELATIVE EASE.

AND THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.

THE PLAN WILL BE TESTING IT HOPEFULLY THIRD, FOURTH QUARTER NEXT YEAR.

ONCE IT'S ONCE IT'S UP AND RUNNING.

SUSTAINED. WE HAVE A DESIGN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW TO EXTEND THOSE LINES, SIZE THOSE LINES.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE, FROM OUR NEW TREATMENT FACILITY, PROVIDE RECLAIMED WATER AND WASTE, VERY LITTLE OF THAT WATER.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

EXCUSE ME. WHEN YOU MENTIONED WHEN YOU SURVEYED THE RESIDENTS AND YOU CITED WATER QUALITY, WHAT WHAT ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY? NO, NO. WHAT IS IT THAT THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T KNOW? THE RESIDENTS WE DIDN'T ASK THEM ABOUT THE QUALITY BECAUSE FOR RESIDENTS, THEY WOULD USE RECLAIMED WATER FOR IRRIGATION.

OKAY. THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE AN INTEREST TO CONNECT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T IRRIGATE THEIR LAWNS OR JUST HAVE NO DESIRE TO.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. OKAY.

SO THEY DIDN'T THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO IRRIGATE THEIR LAWN OR USE THAT.

AND AGAIN, THEY PAY A MONTHLY BILL TO IRRIGATE THEIR LAWNS.

I SEE THE WATER QUALITY.

IT'S MORE RELATED TO PROCESSES WHERE YOU'RE CLEANING CIRCUIT BOARDS, PUTTING THE WATER THROUGH COOLING TOWERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT OF THE RECLAIMED WATER THAT ARE CAUSING THE ISSUE.

SO IT'S A HIGHER LEVEL OF USE.

NOT FOR IRRIGATION PURPOSES, THOUGH.

SO IT'S IT COSTS MORE TO TO TALLY UP THIS RECLAIMED WATER SIGNIFICANTLY.

MORE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE SUBSIDIZING YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE COST OF OF THAT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. I GUESS WE COULD HAVE.

WAIT, HOLD ON. I THINK BECAUSE I GUESS WE COULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.

YEAH. AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I REMEMBER. I CAN'T REMEMBER.

IT WAS. YOU MISSED A LITTLE OR SUZANNE.

UM, THERE WAS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT POSSIBLY AND I KNOW IT'S A SORE SUBJECT, BUT WITH THE GOLF COURSE, THOSE CONVERSATIONS REGARDING USING YOU FOLLOW ME.

MAYOR YES. IS THAT STILL.

WELL, YEAH.

WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.

IF THE GOLF COURSE WAS STILL AN ACTIVE GOLF COURSE, THE PLAN THAT CHRIS DESCRIBED WOULD HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN IMPLEMENTED NOT JUST FOR THE HOMES, THE SUBDIVISIONS WHERE WE WOULD PLUG INTO THEIR IRRIGATION SYSTEM.

THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN REQUIRED TO USE OUR RECLAIMED WATER TO AT THAT PLANT WHEN IT CAME ONLINE, WHEN IT CAME ONLINE, THAT WAS THE FIRST PHASE TO EXTEND THE LINE DIRECTLY TO THEIR PONDS. OKAY. AND THAT WAS PART OF THE CELL WHEN THE WAY I REMEMBER IT CORRECTLY, BACK IN THE DAY BEFORE WE WERE ON THE DAIS, FRED WAS SAYING, HEY, THIS CAN HELP.

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IF WE DID GET THE GOLF COURSE AND IN HINDSIGHT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD CALL FOR THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU, FRED. I REMEMBER THAT, SIR.

I REMEMBER THAT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

EILEEN, STEP 1233, OLD ROAD NORTHEAST.

I LIVE IN PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB.

NOBODY WATERS THEIR LAWN THERE BECAUSE EVERY TIME IT RAINS FOR MORE THAN AN HOUR, WE NEED A ROWBOAT TO GET DOWN THE STREET.

MY HOUSE.

I JUST LEARNED FROM ALL OF THE WATER THAT HAS BEEN SURROUNDING IT HAS COMPROMISED MY FOUNDATION.

IT'S GOING TO COST ME THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BORROW BECAUSE I LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY TO FIX THAT.

AND ONCE THEY FIX THAT, THEN I HAVE TO REPLACE ALL MY FLOORS.

THEN I HAVE TO REPAIR THE CRACKS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF MY HOUSE BECAUSE I HAVE ASKED FOR THIS TO BE FIXED FOR YEARS.

THEY KEEP TELLING ME THEY'RE GOING TO REPAVE IT.

THEY'RE GOING TO FIX IT. IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

AND THE LAST RAIN WE HAD, I MEAN, IT WAS RIDICULOUS.

IT JUST COVERS EVERYTHING.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU KNOW THAT THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF PALM BAY ISN'T GOING TO USE IT.

WHY WHY ARE YOU GOING TO BE CHARGED AN INCREASE ON SOMETHING WE DON'T EVEN USE? THIS IS RECLAIMED WATER, MAN.

RECLAIMED WATER. RIGHT.

YOU USE. NOBODY'S USING.

NO, I DON'T. I DON'T WATER MY.

WE WOULDN'T BE. I DON'T NEED TO.

IT FLOODS CONSTANTLY AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD DOES.

I'M NOT UNIQUE, BUT I AM AT THE LOWEST POINT.

SO IT'S DONE. SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE TO MY HOUSE.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK.

PERHAPS WE CAN GET TO FIND OUT IF WE CAN GET STAFF TO LOOK AT MS. SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD AND CERTAINLY YES, I HAVE.

WE'VE ACTIVELY BEEN OUT THERE, SO I'LL CHECK AND SEE WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THE LAST REPAIRS THAT WE DID.

I KNOW THEY WERE WORKING ON SOME CURB ISSUES LAST LAST EMAIL I HAVE, BUT I'LL CERTAINLY CHECK ON THAT.

AND ALSO JUST TO CLARIFY, SO THE RECLAIMED WATER RATES ARE ONLY CHARGED TO RECLAIMED WATER CUSTOMERS, SO THE AVERAGE PALM BAY RESIDENT DOESN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF BILL THAT COMES TO THEM FOR RECLAIMED WATER.

SO YOU WOULD NOT BE CHARGED THAT RIGHT? YEAH. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR MS..

SMITH ORDINANCE 20 2389 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

ADOPTING THE FINAL BUDGET AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MS.. SHERMAN I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MS..

SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

NOTHING FURTHER. THIS IS JUST THE ADOPTION OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE COUNCIL.

SO MOVED. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. MOVED BY.

MOVED. AND DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? DEPUTY MAYOR. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? YES. YES.

IT'S. THIS IS MY SECOND COUNCIL, AND IT'S.

IT'S NICE TO SEE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DO WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST.

SO IT'S REFRESHING, MAYOR.

THAT'S ALL. YES, SIR.

OF OUR CITY. IT'S PUTTING THE CITY FIRST.

SIR, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO SAY I WANT TO THANK STAFF.

AND YOU'RE SUCH A BLESSING, MA'AM, WHEN IT COMES TO SIMPLIFYING THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND I AM SO APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR LEADERSHIP.

LARRY. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

THE ENTIRE TEAM COMING TOGETHER TO PUT THIS BUDGET.

MADAME SHERMAN, YOU'RE NOT BEHIND THAT.

SO I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU PUBLICLY FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I KNOW THAT THIS IS TRYING TIMES.

IT'S GOT TO BE DATE.

ANGELICA'S ALWAYS, HEY, IT'S GOT TO BE DONE ON THIS DATE.

BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. TEAM PALM BAY DEPUTY MAY MAYOR.

I WOULD ECHO EVERYTHING YOU SAID.

THE HARD WORK TO GET US HERE.

TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

COPY THAT. OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.