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[CALL TO ORDER]
I'M GOING TO CALL OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS EVENING WILL BE LED BY BAYSIDE LAKES GIRL SCOUTS TROOP 809.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I GET EXCITED WHEN OUR YOUTH FOR PATRIOTIC.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL LEADERS.
I'M HONORED TODAY TO GIVE THE INVOCATION.
WOULD YOU BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE? THANK YOU FOR. HEAVENLY FATHER, I SOUGHT YOU FOR WISDOM TODAY.
FOR THIS COUNCIL MEETING, AND I PRAY THAT YOU BESTOW ON EACH AND EVERY PERSON HERE TO HAVE EYES TO SEE, EARS TO HEAR, AND A HEART TO HAVE COMPASSION THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE INTERACTIONS WE HAVE TODAY.
NOT JUST HERE, BUT ALSO IN ISRAEL.
WE'RE ALL MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
THAT PEACE, COMFORT BE TO ALL.
LORD, AS WE PUT THESE LEADERS IN PLACE AS A FORCE AGAINST EVIL.
LORD, I PRAY FOR A FRESH ANOINTING UPON EACH AND EVERY OF OUR LEADERS HERE THAT THEY BE ABLE TO LEAD WITHOUT RESERVATION, WITH DUE DILIGENCE, WITH A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND THEM, THEIR HEARTS AND THEIR MINDS.
AROUND THEIR PEOPLE, AROUND THEIR FAMILIES.
AND LORD, I THANK YOU THAT YOU HEARD MY PRAYER.
THAT EVERYONE ELSE OF OUR LEADERS.
THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM THAT EVEN OUR NEW FIRE CHIEF TODAY BE GUIDED BY YOUR GUIDING LIGHT.
SINCE JESUS, YOUR PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS NAME WE PRAY.
YES, MA'AM. EVERYONE FACE THE FLAG.
FACE DOWN WITH THEIR HAND OVER THEIR HEART.
RIGHT. PLEASE STAND WITH YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THAT WAS THE SWEETEST, SWEETEST SOUND.
THANK YOU. BAYSIDE LAKES GIRL SCOUT TROOP 809.
DEPUTY MAYOR. FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS BY PHONE.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER. MISS SHERMAN HERE.
[AGENDA REVISIONS]
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE TWO AGENDA REVISIONS TO ANNOUNCE.AND THE SECOND IS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL OTHER AGENCY TERM CONTRACTS UTILIZED FOR AS NEEDED PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT, MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM ONE UNDER PROCUREMENTS.
AND MISS SMITH? NO, SIR. NO REVISIONS.
THANK YOU MA'AM. SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]
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SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING UP THE WHOLE TEAM.ALL RIGHT. THANKS FOR JOINING US, TEAM.
EVERYONE. THANKS FOR JOINING US.
WELCOME, WELCOME. WE'RE NOT LOLLYGAGGING UP HERE, ARE WE? SO THE WHOLE TEAM IS UP HERE BECAUSE THERE'S A PROCLAMATION.
A FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK, OCTOBER 16TH THROUGH THE 22ND.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
PALM BAY. WHEREAS THE CITY GOVERNMENT IS THE GOVERNMENT CLOSEST TO MOST CITIZENS AND THE ONE THE MOST DIRECT DAILY IMPACT UPON ITS RESIDENTS.
AND WHEREAS MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, MAKING THEIR CITY THEIR HOME. AND WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT IS ADMINISTERED FOR BY ITS CITIZENS AND IS DEPENDENT UPON PUBLIC COMMITMENT TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF ITS MANY RESPONSIBLE ENTITIES, I CAN ONLY ATTEST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT.
WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PASS ALONG THE UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC SERVICES AND THEIR BENEFITS.
AND WHEREAS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK OFFERS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF TO SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL ITS CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN SHAPE AND INFLUENCE THIS BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 16TH THROUGH THE 22ND AS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS, CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES TO PARTICIPATE IN EVENTS THAT RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK AND WITNESS HERE ON MY SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 19TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2023.
I DO, CAN YOU READ THAT FONT, MA'AM? I SURE CAN. OH, PRAISE THE LORD.
I'M THE CITY MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO TONIGHT'S MEETING.
BEHIND ME IS JUST A SMALL SAMPLING OF A VERY INCREDIBLE TEAM THAT WE HAVE.
MANY OF THOSE BEHIND ME ARE DIRECTORS.
THEY'RE IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS WITH THE CITY.
THEY'RE HERE BECAUSE AS PART OF THEIR JOB TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE MANY THINGS THAT THEY DO.
IT'S A WEEK THAT'S FOCUSED ON RAISING AWARENESS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT AND ITS DAILY IMPACT ON ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, ON ALL OF YOU, ON ALL OF US WHO LIVE IN THE CITY. THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS OVER 900 EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS, AND I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TONIGHT AND JUST RECOGNIZE EVERY ONE OF THEM AND EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR THE EXCEPTIONAL DEDICATION AND HARD WORK THAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES PROVIDE AS THEY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THEY'RE ALWAYS ON DUTY.
WE HAVE 16 DEPARTMENTS WORKING HARD TO SERVE.
WHAT IS THE SECOND LARGEST CITY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA? WE HAVE OVER 135,000 RESIDENTS NOW.
FOR MANY OF US, IT REALLY IS A CALLING TEAM.
I WOULD JUST WANT TO SAY TO YOU THAT YOUR COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE IS TRULY THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR CITY'S SUCCESS, AND IT'S TRULY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE, AS WE SAY, HASHTAG PALM BAY.
YOUR HARD WORK DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED, AND I'M TRULY HONORED TO LEAD SUCH A REMARKABLE TEAM.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, NOT ONLY DURING THIS WEEK, BUT EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
LET'S CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER TO PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE.
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THANK YOU AND THANK YOU.HEY COUNCIL, YOU WANT TO COME DOWN OR YOU WANT TO STAY UP THERE.
CAN WE LET'S JUST STAND BY FOR COUNCIL.
HEY, LISTEN, CAN WE GET CLOSER TOGETHER? PRETEND YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
I. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
SO OUR VERY NEXT PROCLAMATION.
I'M GOING TO BRING THIS UP A LITTLE HIGH.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO CALL UP DANA PACKARD AND THE TEAM TO COME ON UP.
THIS PROCLAMATION IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
THEY ARE SERENE HARBORS PART OF THIS AND SERENE.
THE SERVICES SERENE HARBOR PROVIDES.
OUR CONSTITUENCY IS IS TO BE RECOGNIZED.
SO THIS IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH.
FOR THAT, WHEREAS NEARLY 1 IN 3 WOMEN AND 1 IN 4 MEN IN OUR COUNTRY HAVE SUFFERED PHYSICAL VIOLENCE BY AN INTIMATE PARTNER.
AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IMPACTS PEOPLE OF EVERY AGE, ETHNICITY, NATIONALITY, ECONOMIC STATUS AND BELIEF. AND WHEREAS VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ARE DEPRIVED OF AUTONOMY AND SECURITY, THEY FACE, THEY FACE THREATS OF THEIR HEALTH AND SAFETY, AND IN MANY INSTANCES THEY FIND THEMSELVES LEFT WITH SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL INSECURITY.
AND WHEREAS CRIMES LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INHIBIT OUR COMMUNITY FROM REACHING ITS FULLEST POTENTIAL.
AND ALTHOUGH GREAT PROGRESS IN BRINGING AWARENESS TO AND PROVIDING PROTECTIONS AGAINST DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAS BEEN MADE, MUCH WORK REMAINS.
AND WHEREAS THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VICTIM SERVICE UNIT DIRECTS EFFORTS TO ADDRESS DISTURBING STATISTICS REGARDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, ADVOCATES FOR TOUGHER SENTENCES ON DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASES, AND PARTNERS WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND LOCAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICE PROVIDERS SUCH AS SERENE HARBOR TO ENSURE THAT VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE DO NOT EXPERIENCE FURTHER HARASSMENT.
AND WHEREAS THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VICTIM SERVICES UNIT CELEBRATED ITS 25TH ANNIVERSARY AND ITS SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO THE CAUSE BY BEING THE FIRST ADVOCACY PROGRAM TO BE PART OF A FIRST RESPONSE TEAM IN BREVARD COUNTY.
WHEREAS THE CITY REAFFIRMS ITS DEDICATION TO PROVIDING A COMMUNITY WHERE NO ONE SUFFERS THE PAIN AND HARDSHIP CAUSED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND RECOGNIZES THE ADVOCATES, VICTIM SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND ORGANIZATIONS WHO WORK TIRELESSLY TO PREVENT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND EXTEND HOPE AND HEALING TO SURVIVORS AND THE VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
AND WHEREAS VICTIMS SHOULD HAVE HELPED TO FIND THE COMPASSION, TO FIND THE COMFORT AND THE HEALING THAT THEY NEED, AND DOMESTIC ABUSERS SHOULD BE PUNISHED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW.
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THE ANYWAY, BY NOW, THEREFORE, AND I GET EMOTIONAL ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE WE TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY THAT WAS WELL KNOWN IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND SHE WAS PART OF THE PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. NADINE WAS HER NAME AND SHE WAS A VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.IT'S MY PRAYER THAT THESE VICTIMS GET BOLD ENOUGH TO SAY I NEED HELP NOW.
THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2023 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH AND URGE ALL THAT WE ALL REDEDICATE OURSELVES TO UPHOLD UPHOLDING THE BASIC HUMAN RIGHT TO BE FREE FROM VIOLENCE AND ABUSE AND WITNESS.
THANK YOU. NOW, I WANT YOU TO TELL THEM HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN PART OF THOSE 25 YEARS.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK CHIEF TO COME UP AND JOIN US, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SUPPORT OF OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND OUR ENTIRE CITY MANAGEMENT, OUR MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
AND AND BEHIND ME ARE OUR VICTIM ADVOCATES.
WE HAVE TWO FULL TIME VICTIM ADVOCATES.
WE HAVE EIGHT VOLUNTEERS, AND SOME OF THEM ARE WITH US.
AND THESE LADIES ARE WITH SERENE HARBOR, OUR LOCAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER.
AS THE MAYOR SAID, THIS IS OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY.
WE WERE THE FIRST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY TO BRING VICTIM SERVICES IN-HOUSE.
ONCE OUR NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES SAW THE SUCCESS WE WERE HAVING, THEY HAVE ALL BASICALLY MODELED THEIR PROGRAMS AFTER US AND HAVE INSTITUTED PROGRAMS OF THEIR OWN, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CITIZENS EVERYWHERE NEED AND DESERVE.
I WANT TO JUST SAY THAT IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BE HERE, A PART OF THIS PROGRAM, FOR THE ENTIRE 25 YEARS.
WE HAVE SOME VOLUNTEERS THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US SINCE THE INCEPTION OF OUR PROGRAM, AND OUR PROGRAM SERVES ABOUT 1200 CITIZENS A YEAR.
SO WE HAVE SERVED ABOUT 36,000 OF OUR CITIZENS TO DATE, WHICH I THINK IS ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT REALLY FORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE COME TO MEET THEM, WE FIND IT AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO WALK BESIDE THEM AS THEY MOVE TO INDEPENDENCE AND SURVIVE UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE.
WELL, YES, WE WANT TO WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO IS WEARING PURPLE.
PURPLE IS THE DESIGNATED COLOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.
SO WE WE THANK EVERYBODY FOR REPRESENTING UP HERE TODAY WITH THAT.
I'M GOING TO ACT LIKE THE LOVED ONE.
IT'S JUST AN ACT. WELL YOU HAVE MORE PURPLE.
NEED TO BE CLOSER TO THE FRONT.
COME ON. EVERYBODY GETS TOGETHER.
DOWN IN FRONT OF ME. YEAH. CHRISTINA.
HOLD STILL. JUST ONE SECOND, I HAVE TO.
THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS ABOUT.
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YOU TOO. YOU WANT TO SHAKE? YES. YES.[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.FOLLOWS BY MISS LAURIE WALDEN JONES.
TIM BLAND, 1992, LYNBROOK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE INVOCATION TONIGHT.
THAT WAS VERY GOOD. PEACE WORLDWIDE IS WHAT IS NEEDED AT THIS TIME, NO QUESTION.
SO I WANT TO START OFF BY TALKING ABOUT 3375 BAYSIDE LAKES DRIVE ON THE BREVARD COUNTY WEBSITE.
IT SAYS THE MARKET VALUE IS A MILLION 554 WITH A TAX OF 38,000.
I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SUBMITTED APPRAISAL TO YOU ALL AT OVER $7 MILLION, WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO ABOUT $175,000 OF ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX.
LOT SPLIT IS NOT RECORDED ON THE BREVARD COUNTY WEBSITE FOR IMPROVED VERSUS UNIMPROVED.
ALTHOUGH I WOULD AND I DID IN AN EMAIL LIKE TO THANK VALERIE AND LISA.
ALL THAT FIVE FOOT CRUD BEHIND MY HOUSE WAS FINALLY MOWED DOWN.
THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR WITH A SPECIAL PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT WAS SO HIGH AND SO DENSE, BUT IT'S GONE AND IT'S A BETTER VIEW FOR ME. SO I'D LIKE TO THANK CODE COMPLIANCE FOR THEIR WORK ON THAT.
NEXT, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF AT 3375 BAYSIDE LAKES DRIVE THAT THE COUNTY LISTS AS A GOLF COURSE.
HOW ABOUT A REFERENDUM? LET'S ASK THE VOTERS.
LET'S ASK THE VOTERS IF THEY WANT A GOLF COURSE IN PALM BAY.
YOU GOT TO TO 2024 VOTES COMING UP.
HOW ABOUT A REFERENDUM? ASK, SEE WHAT THEY SAY.
I'M THINKING THAT MOST ARE GOING TO SAY YES.
WE NEED THIS TYPE OF RECREATION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND WE DON'T NEED MORE HOUSING.
WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S COMING UP.
IT'S BEEN DELAYED A COUPLE OF TIMES NOW, BUT IT'S THE BRAMBLE WOOD TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
BRAMBLE WOOD LANE IS THE MAIN LANE INTO OUR MAIN CLUBHOUSE, SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED FOR, I THINK IT WAS 92 TOWNHOMES.
AND NOW THE DEVELOPER WANTS LIKE 137 TOWNHOMES.
SO THE P AND Z HAS BEEN PUSHING IT BACK TO THE DEVELOPER TO CLARIFY WHAT IT WANTS.
92 OR 130 TOWNHOMES DOES NOT REALLY FIT INTO BAYSIDE LAKES.
MY NAME IS GLORIA WALDEN JONES.
MY NICKNAME IS LORI AND I LIVE AT 671 ROSEAU ROAD IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
I RELOCATED TO PALM BAY IN LATE 2019 AND A NEW CONSTRUCTION.
AND I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN HERE OR WHO HAVE PARENTS OR GRANDPARENTS IN THEIR MID 70S OR OLDER LIKE ME.
SO STRESS IS NOT GOING TO BE WHAT I NEED AT THIS POINT.
I NEED PEACE HERE IN PALM BAY IMAGINE STREETS BEING DEVELOPED.
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LIKE ROLLER COASTER TRACKS.I'M IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
SO WE HAVE HOUSES LIKE MINE ON ONE LEVEL, AND THEN NEW BUILDERS ARE COMING IN BUILDING HOUSES ON A MUCH HIGHER ELEVATION.
HOLIDAY BUILDERS IS THE CONCERN BUILDER AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY UNCARING.
THEY HAVE DISREGARD AND DELIBERATELY CAUSE STRESS AND DESTRUCTION TO MY PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THAT HOUSE THAT THEY'RE PUTTING UP.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ A LETTER THAT I JUST WROTE TO ALL THREE CEOS OF.
THE CONSISTENT INCONVENIENCE AND DAMAGE TO MY PROPERTY AT 671 WAS REPORTED TO YOUR NEW NEW HOME CONSULTANT. AND WHO WAS TO RELAY ISSUES AND TEXT PHOTOS THAT I GAVE HER TO ABDUL ON SEPTEMBER 12TH OF THIS YEAR.
AND TOLD ME TO GO BACK TO MY HOUSE WHEN ASKED.
WAS THE BUILDER WHO THE BUILDER WAS? THE WORKER SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
AND THERE WAS NO POSTED SIGN, AND THE WORKERS ASKED, WHERE'S THE SIGN THAT SAYS WHO THE BUILDER IS? THEY SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
I EVENTUALLY FOUND IT ON THE GROUND IN THE DRAINAGE AREA.
I TOOK A PHOTO OF THAT AND TURNED THE PHOTOGRAPH.
THIS INCIDENT WAS THEN REPORTED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT.
HAVE I TALKED TO YOU? YES, MA'AM. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
OKAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE JUST A FEW THOUGHTS WHILE YOU'RE THERE.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT I HAVE TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE.
NOT JUST THE TRUCKS AND THE PARKING.
I GET THAT, MAN. OKAY, SO THE FIRST THING IS, I'M REALLY SORRY THAT YOU WENT THROUGH THE ISSUE.
EVERYONE SHOULD BE TREATED WITH RESPECT AND SO THAT THE FANNING AWAY AND NOT LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. SO THERE WE DO HAVE STAFFERS THAT WE CAN DIRECT YOU TO.
I'D LIKE TO I'VE TO EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW.
MY GRANDKIDS CAN'T GO OUT BECAUSE OF THE ORDINANCE.
ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE TO KEEP.
YEAH, WELL, THAT SAYS THAT IF WATER FROM THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
I HAVE TO KEEP THIS MEETING GOING.
AND SO WHAT I'M GOING TO DO AT THIS TIME IS DIRECT.
DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE TAKE CARE OF THIS ISSUE.
AND AT THAT POINT, THEY HAVE TO RESPOND TO EVERY MEMBER ON COUNCIL OF WHAT ACTION WAS TAKEN.
SO, MADAM SHERMAN, SIR? YES. IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M THE LAST OF THE DIRT.
THEY'RE THROWING DIRT ON MY PROPERTY, MA'AM.
HE'S IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM KIND OF WAVING AT YOU RIGHT NOW.
OKAY? THANK YOU. I'M SO SORRY FOR TALKING OVER TIME.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. STICE ROBERT STICE.
WHAT? YEAH, THAT'S MY GRANDSON'S.
YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID A WHILE BACK, WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE RED SHIRTS.
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I'VE BEEN COMING UP HERE OVER TWO YEARS CHATTING ABOUT THIS.EVERYTHING NEGATIVE FOLLOWS THAT.
NOW, MISTER MAYOR, YOU AND I THINK FOSTER ARE FROM NEW YORK.
I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER HERE, BUT I'M ASKING YOU ALL TO STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND LOOK AT THIS, THE CONTINUED BUILDING THAT YOU HAVE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER WHEN YOU PUT PEOPLE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.
NOW, I DON'T WANT TO TALK MORATORIUM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY TO FIX THIS.
HOW CAN YOU GET OUT OF THE BOX AND SOLVE THIS ISSUE? YOU HAVE? WE HAVE A UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
RIGHT. THAT'S OKAY TO HAVE AN UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.
OKAY, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT OVERCROWDING IS, DON'T YOU, SIR? WE ALL KNOW WHAT OVERCROWDING IS.
THIS IS AN AREA THAT CAN THAT CAN JUST EXPLODE AND TURN NEGATIVE QUITE QUICKLY.
AND I DON'T CARE HOW MANY POLICE THAT YOU THAT YOU HIRE.
DO YOU GENTLEMEN NOT ACCEPT THAT? I'M ASKING YOU TO STEP OUT OF THE BOX AND LOOK AT THAT.
MAYBE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE.
IF YOU'RE PUTTING 2000 HOMES HERE, AND EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT ANOTHER THOUSAND HERE, THAT MAY NOT BE A GOOD IDEA AT THIS TIME UNTIL YOU WIDEN SOME OF THESE OTHER AREAS. MAYBE THERE'S SOME COACHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO THE DEVELOPERS AND SAY, WHY DON'T WE TRY THIS PIECE OF LAND OVER HERE? YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE PALM BAY, YOU MAY THINK IT'S THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW, BUT IT COULD GO SOUTH VERY QUICKLY.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
GARIA. HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL.
RESPECTED GUESTS AND VALUED MEMBERS OF THE BREVARD COUNTY COMMUNITY.
I'M A COLLEGE STUDENT FROM SAINT PETERSBURG.
I'M DEEPLY ROOTED AND INVESTED INTO FLOURISHING OUR BELOVED COMMUNITY.
HAITIAN RESIDENTS MOVING INTO THE PALM BAY BREVARD COUNTY AREA.
MY CAPSTONE PROJECT WAS TO CRAFT THE INFORMATION GUIDE, WHICH I'VE PUT BEFORE YOU.
UM, TAILORED EXPLICITLY FOR THE NEW HAITIAN RESIDENTS IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
PICTURE A RESOURCE THAT WOULD DECIPHER OUR LOCAL NORMS, SERVICES, AND OPPORTUNITIES INTO EASILY UNDERSTANDABLE FORMAT AND ENSURING THAT IT'S ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE BY DISTRIBUTING IT TO SITES OF.
UH, TWO DIFFERENT SITES THAT THEY TRAFFIC.
TO BRING THIS PROJECT INTO FRUITION, I HAD TO USE DIFFERENT PEOPLE, LIKE A GRAPHIC DESIGNER.
I SPOKE TO SOME EDUCATORS, I SPOKE TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR, AND I USED SOME RESOURCES FROM THE PALM BAY CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE TO EVALUATE THIS INFORMATION AND PUT IT ALL INTO ONE GUIDE.
TOGETHER, LET'S FORGE AHEAD IN SHAPING BREVARD COUNTY INTO A COMMUNITY WHERE RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR ORIGIN, FEEL SEEN, HEARD, SUPPORTED AND EMPOWERED TO CARVE OUT A PROSPEROUS LIFE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT THROUGH THIS JOINT EFFORT, WE CAN SCOPE A FUTURE WHERE EVERY INDIVIDUAL AND NEW, NEWER OR ESTABLISHED EXPERIENCE A NURTURING AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING NOW, JUST MR.
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GERBER, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING PALM BAY AND THAT THIS PROJECT, BASED ON OUR COMMUNITY, THE WAY YOU KNOW, ALL THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY IS EVOLVING IN PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY AT LARGE.IT'S A GOOD GUIDE. AND CERTAINLY I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.
IT'S A GOOD TOOL TO REALLY FACILITATE THE INTEGRATION OF NEW FOLKS MOVING TO THE AREA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. IF I MAY ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THERE ARE MANY CHURCHES AND SOME CHURCHES ARE THEY SHARE SPACE? CORRECT. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
AND MY CHURCH ISN'T LISTED ON THERE, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D LET YOU KNOW.
NOT THAT I'M BEING BUT AND IT'S CURRENT FORM.
I WOULD HOPE TO DEVELOP IT MORE AND INCLUDE MORE RESOURCES FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
ARE YOU WORKING WITH THE HAITIAN AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF BREVARD AS WELL? YES, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
JUST ONE LAST THING. DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR HIM TO OR EVEN ALSO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? POTENTIALLY. I THINK HE SPOKE.
HE'S CONNECTED WITH THE CHAMBER.
OKAY. ALSO LOOKING TO THE SPACE COAST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AS WELL.
I SPOKE TO THE TOURISM BRANCH, BUT I HAVEN'T.
I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEIR CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE.
THE TOURISM AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU. SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
CARRY ON, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHY CAN'T THE CITY IMPOSE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACT BE BUILT BEFORE THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT? WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS WE HAVE PROJECTS COMING IN AND WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT, AND THE BUILDERS HAVE TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE, OR THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE, OR THEY HAVE TO PUT A BOND UP TO ENSURE THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO WHY DON'T THE BUILDERS PUT THIS INFRASTRUCTURE PORTION IN FIRST, WHICH YOU CAN DO BY ORDINANCE, REQUIRE THIS TO HAPPEN INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THAT WAY THE RESIDENTS ARE NOT IMPACTED ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS YEARS.
CASE IN POINT WE STILL DON'T HAVE TRAFFIC SIGNALS EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECTS ARE DONE.
SO MAKE THEM MAKE THE CHICKEN COME BEFORE THE EGG.
IT WOULDN'T. IT'S JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME.
GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE DONE FIRST AND MAKE THE BUILDERS HAVE TO DO THEIR SHARE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'LL JUST BE PART OF SOLUTION SOLVING.
MADAM SHERMAN, HE MENTIONED MINTON ROAD APARTMENTS, AND I THINK HE'S REFERRING TO THE HEALD ROAD ISSUE THAT WE'VE JUST RECENTLY MADE A THAT RECENTLY BECAME OR CAME BEFORE COUNCIL BONDING OF THAT THAT IS A COUNTY PROJECT, I REALIZE. CORRECT.
THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY OF BOMBAY.
I REALIZE THAT, BUT IS THERE ANY MERIT? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT INSTEAD OF THOSE BONDS THAT HAVE THEM INSTITUTE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT? WELL, I GUESS WHAT I WOULD SAY TO THE COMMENTS IS THERE'S THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT EMERGE.
TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS THAT CALL OUT THOSE SPECIFIC TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN THERE ARE SPECIFIC TIMELINES AND TIMEFRAMES THAT WE GIVE TO THOSE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
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THEIR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT PHASING.RIGHT. BUT THERE ARE OTHER SITUATIONS TO MR. BATTEN'S POINT WHERE PERHAPS A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT HAS A PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE OF AN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT THAT'S NEEDED.
SO THEY HAVE A PORTION SO WE CANNOT HOLD THEM UP.
THANK YOU MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER, THIS COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER ONE, MISS SMITH.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
ORDINANCE 20 2396.AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT NINE, BLOCK 31, PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB, UNIT FOUR, ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 24, PAGE 26 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR FOR HEARING.
I'M, AS STATED LAST TIME, LOOKING TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE EASEMENT ON THE REAR SIDE OF MY PROPERTY TO FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ACCESSORY BUILDING.
YES, SIR. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.
IS HE STILL ON, MADAME TERESE? ON. OH, HE JUST SAID NO QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? OKAY. I NEED ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE, AYE. WHAT WAS COUNCILMAN FOSTER'S VOTE? OKAY. WERE YOU VOTING? I. OKAY, HE SAID.
CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. THIS WAS THE FINAL.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
MS.. SMITH. ORDNANCE 2023 DASH 98, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE SIDE 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 24, BLOCK 427, PORT MALABAR.
IT'S. HE TOLD ME THAT LAST NIGHT.
WE WANT TO ABANDON A TEN FOOT SIDE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S THE RIGHT HAND PROPERTY LINE.
IN ORDER TO SEE AND CLOSE ON A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
PRETTY CUT AND DRY. THANK YOU.
COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD. MASTER CHIEF BATTEN.
SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT ON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THIS PERTAINS TO A LOT OF THE ASKING FOR VACATING OF PROPERTY.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH GENERIC ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT PUBLIC WORK USUALLY ALLOWS EIGHT FEET VACATION, RIGHT? THIS ONE IS REQUESTING FOR TEN FEET.
THEY NORMALLY AUTOMATICALLY, ALMOST AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPT IT.
WOULD THEY NOT BEEN ABLE TO BUILD WITHOUT THIS EXTRA TWO FEET FOR THE HOUSING? JUST IT SEEMED LIKE JUST ALWAYS ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE.
IT'S JUST AN IMPRESSION I GET.
NOW THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS WE ASKED FOR SO MANY VACATIONS OF EASEMENTS.
MY RELATES ME BACK TO THE INITIAL QUESTION WHY WERE THE EASEMENTS IMPOSED IN THE FIRST PLACE? WE HAVE THE LOTS DRAWN OUT ALREADY, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE HAVE EASEMENTS IMPOSED WHERE YOU CAN'T USE YOUR LAND OTHER THAN VACANT LAND, EVEN THOUGH YOU OWN THE LOT.
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TO USE YOUR LAND? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU. SIR, DID YOU WANT TO ANSWER THE 8 TO 10FT QUESTION? SO ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, THERE'S ACTUALLY A 20 FOOT SIDE EASEMENT WHERE TYPICALLY IT'S LESS THAN THAT.
SO THE EIGHT FEET WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN ENOUGH TO GIVE US WHAT WE NEEDED.
WE NEEDED FOUR FEET OF THE 20.
AND THE CITY RECOMMENDED GO AHEAD AND DO TEN.
SO THERE'S STILL A TEN FOOT EASEMENT ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEN THERE'S A 50 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT TO THE RIGHT OF THAT.
SO THERE'S PLENTY OF VACANT LAND THERE.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE OTHER QUESTION REGARDING THE VACATING? IF YOU'RE ASKING ME TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT WHY ARE THE EASEMENTS IMPOSED? THESE ARE HISTORICAL EASEMENTS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT TONIGHT.
SO IF WE COULD GET BACK TO MR. BATTEN. THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
IS COUNCILMAN FOSTER ON THE LINE.
ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER? NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.
MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2023, DASH 97.
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
UNIT 46 ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22, PAGE 62 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
HELLO. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
WE ARE NEW RESIDENTS OF FLORIDA.
SHE HAS SLIPPED DISC. SHE JUST HAD A ROTATOR CUFF SURGERY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE COULD GET EIGHT FEET.
THE POOL BUILDER SAYS EIGHT FEET.
YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
UM, OUR NEIGHBOR WHO SHARES THE PROPERTY LINE WITH US HAS A TEN FOOT EASEMENT.
SHE WANTS IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS OKAY.
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING.
SO I'M LOOKING AT A LOT OF THERMAL REGULATION FOR MENTAL HEALTH.
SO GOING TO LOCAL POOLS AND TRYING TO DO THINGS, EVEN BEACHES, IS NOT NOT THE BEST TO GET THE RESULTS THAT I'M LOOKING FOR WHEN IT COMES TO MY RESEARCH, WHICH I DO START A PRACTICUM NEXT YEAR AND I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTE SOME OF THAT RESEARCH, HOPEFULLY WITH THE DATA FROM THE POOL AND JUST SEEING HOW THAT WOULD OVERALL CONTRIBUTE TO THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECT OF MY PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THE POOL WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO COME BACK.
OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK NOW.
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SO SIT. SIT NEAR US.BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
SAME COMMENTS AS FROM PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO, BECAUSE IT'S ALL REVOLVING AROUND EASEMENTS AND HOW WE HAVE TO VACATE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO VACATE EASEMENTS FOR PEOPLE'S USE OF THEIR OWN LAND.
I HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.
DID ALL THE OTHER HOMES ALONG LOTUS STREET REQUIRE AN EASEMENT VACATION IN ORDER TO BUILD THEIR HOMES? BECAUSE IT'S YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STREET, BUT ALL ALONG THE SAME CANAL.
SO IF EVERY ONE OF THE HOMES WERE REQUIRING THIS, THEN WHY DID WE HAVE THESE EASEMENTS SET UP TO BEGIN WITH? AN ITEM NUMBER THREE I'M NOT AGAINST LAND OWNERS, LAND OWNERS USING THEIR LAND.
I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY THESE RESTRICTIONS WERE IMPOSED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
PEOPLE KNOW THEY HAVE A LOT SIZE, A CERTAIN SIZE.
YOU WOULD THINK THEY'D BE ABLE TO USE THEM.
IT'S JUST REPEATEDLY, TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME, RESIDENTS HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, MAY I PLEASE USE MY LAND? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MA'AM, DID YOU WANT TO COME BACK UP OR ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN? I HAVE ONE. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING PALM BAY FIRST THING.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER RELATIONS.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 94, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD, THE VICINITY WEST OF MELBOURNE.
TILLMAN DRAINAGE DISTRICT, CANAL SEVEN AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN.
PROVIDING FOR FILING A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, CIVIL ENGINEER, FOR THE PROJECT, JAKE WISE.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN MULTIPLE STEPS FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND SO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT'S 13 ACRES ADJACENT TO IT TO THE WEST.
AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TONIGHT ASK FOR OUR FIRST COUNSEL READING ON THE ANNEXATION, AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR A ZONING AND A LAND USE THAT IS IS WORKS FOR THE CITY.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THE CITY TO DO A LAND SWAP FOR A PORTION OF THIS SITE SO THAT THE PARKWAY CAN BE EXTENDED STRAIGHT SOUTH THROUGH THIS AREA. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ITEM AND THE NEXT AGENDA ARE BOTH FOR THE PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE SIX ACRES IS TO BE 100% COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I KNOW IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR.
AND WITH THAT, WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF APPROVAL AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS. COUNSEL THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, MASTER CHIEF? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS AN ANNEXATION FOR A LAND SWAP, WHICH WAS JUST BEING JUST PRESENTED RIGHT TO THE WEST.
TELL ME WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE IS GOING TO BE USED FOR.
BUT HE DID SAY IT WAS FOR POTENTIALLY THE PARKWAY.
BUT THAT BRINGS UP ANOTHER QUESTION.
THIS WILL BECAUSE WE'RE ANNEXING THIS INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THIS WILL INCREASE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY ALONG MALABAR ROAD.
RIGHT. AND WHAT WILL THAT ADDED COST BE? AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN EVEN THOUGH MALABAR ROAD IS A COUNTY ROAD, SO WAS BABCOCK.
AND WE WE'VE SEEN WHAT'S HAPPENED BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE COME IN ON ON BABCOCK.
WE SAW WHAT THE INCREASE OF THE COST TO THE CITY WAS AND WHAT IT ENDED UP COSTING US.
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SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, WITH THIS ANNEXATION, DO THE SAME THING ALONG MALABAR ROAD, WHICH WAS COUNTY ROAD.THEY'RE NOW GOING TO SAY, YEAH, BUT THE CITY OWNS EVERYTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF IT.
SO AUTOMATICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PICKING UP THAT MUCH BIGGER PROPORTION OF THE REPAIR INTO MALABAR ROAD, JUST LIKE HAPPENED ON BABCOCK.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OBJECTIVE IS.
I JUST I SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
IT'S NOT BAD THAT WE'RE ANNEXING IN.
IT WILL INCREASE CITY TAXES, BUT WE NEVER MAKE UP OFF A SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WHAT THE COST OF THE NEW ROAD BUILD IS GOING TO BE.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON EVERY ONE OF THESE EXPENDITURES.
THE DESIGN COSTS ALONE ARE ABOUT $10 MILLION.
AND THAT'S JUST BETWEEN MINTON AND THE PARKWAY.
OR IT'LL BE ON THE PARKWAY AS WE KNOW.
SO IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.
AS TO THIS ANNEXATION FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR THAT WE'RE ON, AND ALSO FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE, THOSE TWO PARCELS ARE ARE ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, ALL SURROUNDED BY OUR NEXT TO CITY PROPERTY AND OR WILL BE ONCE THEY'RE ANNEXED AND THEY'RE AT THE FARTHEST END AS YOU CAN GO WEST IN THE CITY, AS WE ALL KNOW.
AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THESE TWO PARCELS IS TWO THINGS, THE ANNEXATION OF OF THE FIRST PARCEL AND THE LAND SWAP THAT WAS MENTIONED BY MR. WISE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO NOT ONLY THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTH, WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FOR THE WIDENING OF MALABAR, BECAUSE WE INTEND TO WIDEN IT TO, TO OR BEYOND THE HIGH SCHOOL THERE AS WELL.
THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT PLANS FOR A FUTURE POLICE AND FIRE SUBSTATION OF SORTS, BECAUSE WE NEED MORE RESPONSE OUT THERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND IT'S A VERY CRITICAL LOCATION FOR US, SO THAT THOSE ARE THE REASONS WHY THOSE ANNEXATIONS ARE IMPORTANT FOR US.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MR. WISE. YOU GOOD? CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO MALABAR ROAD. THE VICINITY SOUTHWEST OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND WEST OF MELBOURNE.
TILLMAN DRAINAGE DISTRICT, CANAL SEVEN AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY, AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MAYOR. THIS IS THE CITY PARCEL WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT ON THE PREVIOUS ITEM.
IT WAS GIVEN TO THEM MANY YEARS AGO AS SOME SORT OF AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE SAINT JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT REGARDING GIVING THEM THE LAND FOR THE VALUE OF SOME SORT OF FEES THEY HAD TO PAY AT THE TIME, I BELIEVE.
SO IT'S HISTORICALLY BEEN OWNED BY THE UTILITIES BUT WAS NEVER ANNEXED.
SO WE'RE SEEKING TO RECTIFY THAT TONIGHT.
WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU ONCE THIS THIS IS COMPLETELY FINISHED, TO REQUEST BASICALLY A PURCHASE OF THAT PROPERTY FROM UTILITIES USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS IF WE GET TO THAT POINT LATER ON. SO THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM?
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SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.
YES, MAYOR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL NATURE.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT.
ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN COUNSEL TO DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.
THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.
ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR MAXIMUM TEN MINUTES.
THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.
THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.
A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.
EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS IN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.
THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.
GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHRIS OSA.
THIS IS THE LIPSCOMB HOME TOWNHOME COMMUNITY FOR PULTE HOMES.
WE ARE HERE WITH YOU TONIGHT FOR PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL.
SINCE THE TIME I'VE BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD SEVERAL TIMES NOW ON THIS PROJECT, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PDP PROCESS, THROUGH THE FDP PROCESS, AND NOW WE'RE HERE WITH YOU TODAY FOR THE FINAL PRELIMINARY PLAT.
EXCUSE ME. SINCE THAT TIME, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF DILIGENTLY THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN PROCESS AND THE OVERALL LAYOUT THAT YOU, COUNCIL AND MAYOR HAVE SEEN HAS NOT CHANGED WITH REGARDS TO UNITS.
AND SO WE ARE PROCEEDING FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE CONSENT OF THIS BOARD.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YES, YES. JUST JUST FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
YES, SIR. SO WHAT I'M SEEING IS THAT IT'S NOT WARRANTED.
ALL RIGHT. I WILL SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID WARRANT A SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE ON LIPSCOMB, OFF OF ONTO HUCKLEBERRY ROAD. THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS THAT YOU PROBABLY HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU DON'T SEE THAT.
BUT THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS DO REFLECT THAT IMPROVEMENT.
ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE SAME QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, CONSIDERING THAT AREA.
UM, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
YEAH, I KNOW IT MAY NOT BE DOING IN THE MORNING DURING THE AFTERNOON TIME TRAVEL EITHER.
EITHER WHICH DIRECTION? NORTH, NORTHBOUND OR SOUTHBOUND.
I KNOW IT TENDS TO TO HAVE I KNOW LEAVING THE UM THE WOODLAKE OFFICE BUILDING, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT BY THE POST OFFICE.
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UM, POTENTIALLY BOTH DIRECTION WITH THE FIRST ITERATION OF THIS, UM, THERE WAS MORE UNITS PROPOSED.SO IN ORDER TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT THAT AREA HAS, THE SOUTHERN TRACK WAS ACTUALLY REVISED TO BE A COMPLETE STORMWATER FACILITY FOR THAT, THEREFORE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF TOWNHOMES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED ON THE PROJECT.
I BELIEVE IT WENT FROM 224 TO 202.
SO THEN WITH THAT REDUCTION IN IN DENSITY, THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS REVISED.
OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU MAYOR.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO. MY COMMENT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC IS BUSY DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY ON THAT ROAD, MORNING AND AFTERNOON, MORNING RUSH HOUR, GOING TO WORK IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THE SCHOOL IS OUT AND PEOPLE COMING HOME.
SO I DON'T SEE I DON'T SEE ANY GREATER IMPACT.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE AND WE HAD A BUS ROUTE THAT GOES DOWN LIPSCOMB STREET.
SO I DON'T IT DON'T CONCERN ME AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
THEY GOT A SIDEWALK RIGHT NOW AND IT'S BEING USED BY THE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL, SO I'M OKAY WITH IT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE OKAY.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YES, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ARE YOU GOOD? SIR. BUT WHEN WE WHEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT.
WAS THERE A TRAFFIC LIGHT WHEN IT WAS AT 224 THAT WAS PROPOSED IN THAT TRAFFIC STUDY? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
WELL, HOW CAN HOW CAN I GET THAT BELIEF? SO TO BE A YES OR NO? WHY? WITH CERTAINTY THERE WASN'T A TRAFFIC LIGHT PROPOSED AT THAT TIME AS PART OF WHEN THE PROJECT HAD A HIGHER DENSITY.
WHEN IT SO THAT THE ANSWER IS NO.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. OKAY.
ARE YOU? DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? THANK YOU. IS MR. WATANABE IN? HE IS ATTENDING VIRTUALLY, ESSENTIALLY.
SO I HAVE SOME INFORMATION I BELIEVE THERE WILL BE TO ANSWER.
YOU ALREADY HAD THE CONFIRMATION ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
NOT NOT A BIG CONTRIBUTION BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO. DOES THAT SATISFY YOU? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THAT'S ME.
I GOT CONFIRMATION FROM FRANK THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL WARRANTED IN THE PAST.
SO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN.
DEPUTY MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THAT'S 38 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY IN CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT EMERSON DRIVE AND THE VICINITY EAST OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
EXCUSE ME. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WE'RE THE ENGINEERS ON THE PROJECT.
WE KNOW WE HAVE TO MEET ALL THE CONDITIONS IN THE CODE.
WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND WE REALIZE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
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WE FEEL THAT THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY.THIS SITE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
IT'S PART OF A COMMERCIAL NODE AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARKWAY AND EMERSON.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LOW IMPACT TO THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESOURCES.
IT WON'T GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
IT WON'T USE A LOT OF WATER, WON'T BE NOISY, AND WE THINK IT'S A FINE PROJECT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ADDRESS THEM.
I DO HAVE ONE. HOW MANY EMPLOYEES WILL THAT COMMERCIAL SITE EMPLOY? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE 2 OR 3 MAYBE.
TYPICALLY THAT THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE IN A PLACE LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SMALL OFFICE.
COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MAYOR IF I MAY. YEAH. THE THE SIZE I MEAN THE VALUE, THE CAPITAL VALUE OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THAT BUILDING IN TERMS OF DOLLAR, HOW MUCH DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE VALUE OF THE, OF THE OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T KNOW YET. WE HAVEN'T WE'VE GOT PRELIMINARY PLANS BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE DETAILED DESIGN.
THE ARCHITECTURAL HAVEN'T BEEN DONE YET.
DEPUTY MAYOR, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD, SIR? WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT IT TO TWO STORIES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN EYESORE OR ANYTHING.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
THE SECOND. I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW, I'D SAY, MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN A LOT, MANY, MANY OF THESE PROJECTS.
ONE OF THE CONCERN, MY CONCERN IS THE SUSTAINABILITY OF SO MANY OF THESE TYPE OF SIMILAR TYPE OF PROJECT, BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE ANY BUSINESS THAT ANY, YOU KNOW, INVESTOR OR DEVELOPER THAT WISH TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, DO WELL.
THAT'S TRULY ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERN, IS AS MANY APPLICATIONS CAME THROUGH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS MANY STORAGE UNITS THAT CAME THROUGH COMMUNITY.
MY CONCERN, IF THE STUDIES ARE CORRECT, I WOULD IMAGINE ANY INVESTORS YOU GUYS DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND TO BRING THIS. THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERN.
FOSTER. I REALLY HAVE NO CONCERN.
WE NEED MORE STORAGE UNIT AS MORE HOUSES COME.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
I GUESS I'LL COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND AND LEAD THIS.
UM, WE WE APPROVED ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
RIGHT. WE'RE APPROVING THESE FACILITIES RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
AND I JUST WANT US TO BE CLEAR.
WE JUST JUST NOW ADOPTED OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR UPDATING OF LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE YET, BUT PART OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN STRUGGLING HERE ON OUR DYESS IS WE'RE CHANGING AN OLD CULTURE OF THIS BEING A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
AND YES, I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE GETTING COMMERCIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE MADE THAT STRIDE.
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OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.IN THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JOB CREATION AS PART OF COMMERCIAL.
THREE JOBS DOES NOT SUSTAIN WHAT I ENVISION.
AND IN APPLYING THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT'S TO PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUSTAINABLE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT PROVIDE DIVERSE RANGE OF HOUSING OPTIONS AS WELL AS PUBLIC FACILITIES.
ACCESS TO COMMERCIAL GOODS, SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT IS WHAT'S IMPORTANT ON ON THERE.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE ALREADY CHANGED THE SHIFT INTO INCREASING MORE CULTURE, NOW WITH OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE CAN LITERALLY START SAYING AND SHAPING THE FUTURE OF COMMERCIAL WITHIN OUR CITY.
AND THAT, GENTLEMEN, IS WHAT'S GOING TO CREATE JOBS WHERE PEOPLE CAN LITERALLY LIVE, WORK AND PLAY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WITH THIS, I WANT TO TRY TO START USING OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO START SHOWING COMMERCIAL TO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT WITHIN OUR CITY.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT ON THIS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, MAYOR, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WITH THE ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. I MADE SOME OF THE SIMILAR COMMENTS TOO.
SO I'M RIGHT THERE ON THIS ONE.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, DEPUTY MAYOR, I KNOW YOU MADE THE MOTION.
WE HAVE TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE MOTION.
I'M AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE THERE WITH COMMERCIAL.
WE WE'VE ALL BEEN SINGING THE SAME OFF THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC.
BUT I THINK NOW IT'S TIME TO START APPLYING OUR NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO.
AND IT'S ABOUT JOB CREATION, THE CREATION OF JOBS IS.
WHEN I SEE COMMERCIAL, WHEN I LOOK AT COMMERCIAL, I'M LOOKING AT ALL THESE JOBS WHERE EVEN THESE STARTER JOBS WHERE OUR YOUTH CAN COME, NICE RESTAURANTS, NICE TYPE OF GRILLS THAT THAT THEY CAN GET THESE STARTER JOBS AS WELL.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I. ALL THE POLLS SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY, NAY, NAY.
THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
RESOLUTION 20 2339, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.
GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY AND GC.
GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO MARTIN ROAD IN THE VICINITY EAST OF BABCOCK STREET AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THE APPLICANT DID.
THEY JUST WALK OUT? YEAH, I KNOW THIS IS A DIFFERENT ONE.
THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.
THIS IS FOR A SELF STORAGE, BUT ALSO WITH COMMERCIAL SPACE.
WITH IT. IT'S IN A OPPOSITE PART OF THE CITY.
IT'S IN A INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
THE LOT'S BEEN VACANT FOR DECADES.
THERE'S OTHER LOTS IN THIS INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION THAT ARE NOT DEVELOPED AS WELL.
SO WE SEE IT AS AS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN THE SELF STORAGE AND THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, BRINGING THE JOBS AND THINGS THAT YOU WERE JUST DESCRIBING FROM THE LAST AGENDA ITEM.
IT WILL LOOK LIKE 100% OFFICE SPACE AND OF COURSE THE COMMERCIAL SPACE WITH IT.
AND IT IS IN A VISIBLE LOCATION BY I-95 AND SOUTH BABCOCK STREET.
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WE DO HAVE AN EXCESS OF PARKING PER CODE.PART OF THE REASON WE'RE DOING THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL.
WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER THAT COMMERCIAL END USER ENDS UP BEING HAS PLENTY OF TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THOSE NEW EMPLOYEES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE ARE EIGHT CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS APPROVAL. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL EIGHT, I PROMISE, BUT IT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THEY'VE DONE MANY DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
THEY DID THEIR MARKET STUDY TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A NEED.
WITH ALL THIS NEW RESIDENTIAL COMING.
WE'RE SEEING IT MORE AND MORE.
IN FACT, A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS WE'RE DOING NOW THAT ARE PLANNED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, ESPECIALLY APARTMENTS, WE'RE DOING SELF STORAGE WITH THEM AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A BIG DEMAND FOR THAT.
THEY GO TO A SELF STORAGE PLACE AS SOON AS THEY'RE MOVING INTO THEIR NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
WE HAVE THE ARCHITECT AND THE DEVELOPER HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER.
AND WE APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE COMMERCIAL ENDS UP BEING.
OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE DESIGN HERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW BIG OF A COMMERCIAL SPACE THEN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE THINK ABOUT 2500FT², 2500FT².
OF COURSE, THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE STORAGE FACILITY.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR OWN OFFICE SPACE AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE WITHIN THE STORAGE BUILDING AS WELL THERE WOULD BE A RETAIL COMPONENT.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY HELP THE BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR J.
THE MAYOR ASKED THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK.
I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL SPACE YOU'RE REFERRING TO.
SO THOSE ARE SOLELY OFFICE BUSINESS, OR POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE OFFICE SOME RETAIL SPACE AS WELL.
YEAH, IT COULD BE ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL JUST LIKE THAT.
ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THAT WOULD BE OUR INTENT.
YEAH I DON'T SEE IT BEING A RESTAURANT OR ANYTHING AT 2500FT.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL WOULD WOULD BE THERE.
I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT THAT THAT LITTLE CORNER AND IT'S LIKE INDUSTRIAL.
YES, YES. SO THERE'S THE MIXTURE OF OF FURTHER DEEPER INTO INTO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY, RIGHT? AS MUCH AS I KNOW I DIDN'T SEE A FIT, I DIDN'T SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T SUPPORT THE OTHER APPLICATION, THE ITEM BEFORE US, THIS APPLICATION, I'VE SEEN MORE OF A NEED, I MEAN A FIT TO THE AREA.
SO I TRULY SEE AND REFER BACK TO THE LANGUAGE CHANGE WITHIN, I THINK COUNCILMAN I MEAN, JOHNSON BROUGHT FORWARD, I THINK THIS IS THE AN EXAMPLE, A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE CHANGES THAT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER.
SO I'M MORE WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR ONE VERSUS THE LAST ONE.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SMART THAT YOU'RE OFFERING THAT THAT ADDITION TO THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, ALTHOUGH A LITTLE SMALLER THAN THAN I WOULD HOPE.
I SEE THAT A BETTER FIT FOR FOR THE THE AREA.
THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS AND NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER? ARE YOU DONE? YEAH, I WAS GOING TO SAY REALLY THE CREDITS WITH STAFF, THEY WORKED WITH US CLOSELY TO BE ABLE TO ADD THAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.
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AND IF IT'S IN YOUR PACKETS, BUT THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE ARCHITECTURE IS REALLY GOING TO BE DYNAMIC IN THAT CORRIDOR.IT'S GOING TO LOOK JUST LIKE THAT.
YOU HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR THIS ITEM.
YOU WANT. YOU WANT MY CARD UP THERE? YES, PERHAPS.
PASS IT ON TO THE YOUNG LADY THERE.
I'M. I LIVE AT 3008 51 ATLANTIC RIDGE LANE IN GRANT.
I'M A CLASS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
MR. WISE HAS FAILED TO TELL YOU THAT THIS IS A FOUR STORY, 120,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE IT'S FORT LAUDERDALE TO ME, BUT HERE I HAVE TWO SETS OF PICTURES.
WAIT TILL YOU GET ON THE MIC SO YOU CAN SHOW THE PICTURES FROM THERE.
THAT PRETTY MUCH DEFINES THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'VE I POINTED OUT, THERE'S A ONE STORY BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
EACH ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY RANGE FROM 4000FT² TO 7000FT² ON A LOT.
SO WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS JUST IN MY IN MY OPINION, IT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT'S JUST TOO LARGE AT FOUR STORIES.
THERE'S I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WHEN THE CODE REQUIRES A SITE PLAN TO BE ACCOMPANYING THIS PLAN, WHEN YOU GO FOR A CONDITIONAL USE, THE SITE PLAN THAT MR. WEISS PRESENTED HAD SOME SQUIGGLY ROUND CIRCLES AND NO LEGEND THAT WENT ALONG WITH IT.
DEFINING WHAT KIND OF A TREE OR WHAT WAS GOING TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A 1700 SQUARE FOOT PAD THAT HE'S SHOWING ON THE PLAN.
THEY ARE RIGHT AT THE LIMIT RIGHT NOW WITH THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE.
THEY ARE TRYING TO UTILIZE THAT FOR LANDSCAPING, WHICH I DON'T BELIEVE IS POSSIBLE.
AND IF THEY PUT A FIRE ESCAPE OUT THERE, THEY'LL BE INTO THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
I KNOW THESE THINGS CAN BE ADDRESSED LATER ON WITH THE BUILDING PLANS, BUT THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE, AND WE FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT A FOUR STORY, 120,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING IS JUST TOO LARGE FOR THIS AREA.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT YOU DO NOT ALLOW THIS AND RECOMMEND PERHAPS TO THE APPLICANT THAT HE GO WITH A TWO STORY BUILDING FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
DID YOU WANT YOUR CHARTS BACK, SIR? NO, YOU CAN HAVE THEM. OKAY.
AS YOU WERE. WE'LL SUBMIT THEM INTO THE RECORD.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. MADAM TERESE, ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE? OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, HOLD ON, I NEED THE REBUTTAL.
I WAS TAKING NOTES AS QUICKLY AS I COULD.
AND IF I CAN APPROACH, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU SEE.
ARE. SO THE EXISTING ZONING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER IS ALLOWS FOR THE 40FT IN HEIGHT.
WHEN WE DO SELF STORAGE, OUR FLOOR TO FLOOR IS MUCH SHORTER THAN YOUR TYPICAL OTHER BUILDINGS.
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SO THE 40FT IN HEIGHT ALLOWS UP TO FOUR STORIES FOR THAT TYPE OF USE.ALONG WITH THE COMMERCIAL ON THE FIRST FLOOR THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU CAN SEE BY THAT RENDERING, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S OVERWHELMING LARGE BUILDING AND A LOT OF YOUR INDUSTRIAL TYPE BUILDINGS HAVE CLOSE TO THAT HEIGHT THAT ARE SINGLE STORY, BECAUSE THEY NEED ROOM FOR CRANES OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. WE DO HAVE AN EXCESS OF PARKING PER CODE WE LIKE.
YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF SELF STORAGE PROJECTS.
WE ARE EXCEEDING IT BECAUSE OF THE FUTURE COMMERCIAL THERE.
SO THERE'S NO REQUEST FOR VARIANCE.
WE'RE NOT COMING BACK WITH A REQUEST FOR A VARIANCE, AS WAS REFERENCED, THAT 1700 SQUARE FEET IS THAT FUTURE COMMERCIAL AREA THAT WAS REFERENCED, PLUS THE COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE SELF STORAGE BUILDING TOO.
THERE IS A TEN FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT ACROSS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
WE COME ACROSS THAT IN A LOT OF THEIR OLDER SUBDIVISIONS.
SO THE GENTLEMAN WAS CORRECT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
SO WE DO FEEL LIKE ESPECIALLY WITH THAT LOCATION, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING, LIMITING IT TO THE 40FT OF HEIGHT, WHICH IS THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT ALREADY, THAT IS REALLY GOING TO ACTUALLY BE A HUGE BENEFIT TO THIS AREA.
AND WE SEE IT AS A MUCH MORE OF A POSITIVE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR JAKE, HOW WAS THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION? WHAT FEEDBACK DID YOU GET? OR I DID NOT ATTEND PERSONALLY TO THAT MEETING? OR WAS IT ONE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING? I DID NOT. YOU GO.
I DID NOT ATTEND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, SO WE HAD ONE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO IT.
I SEE ON HERE IT SAYS THREE PEOPLE.
I SEE THERE'S FOUR. SO I'M GUESSING THOSE WERE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA.
THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE HAVE.
YEAH, IT'S A 500 FOOT RADIUS NOTIFICATION.
SO EVERY PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN 500FT IS NOTIFIED WITH A POST.
SO THAT'S NORMALLY WHO WE HAVE.
AND MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ARE ATTENDED BY A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
BUT THIS ONE I THINK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID HAD FOUR SIGNEES.
FOSTER HAVE A QUESTION FOR JAKE.
ANYTHING EVER BEEN DEVELOPED ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU KNOW OF? NO, IT'S A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
HOW LONG HAS BEEN VACANT FOR? THE INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION IS DECADES OLD.
IT'S BEEN THERE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.
WOULD YOU SAY? MORE THAN 20 YEARS? YES, SIR. OKAY.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. NO, THE SPEED CARDS.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE. CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
SECOND, I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
DEPUTY MAYOR, SIR, JUST AS I SAID EARLIER, I HAVE.
FEEL A BIT DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT REALLY WOULD SERVE THE AREA IN TERMS OF CONFORMITY.
I THINK IT'S CONFORM TO THE AREA, WHAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, AND I WOULD ADD SOMETHING IN REGARDS OF THAT'S PROBABLY TOO PREMATURE WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD MY QUESTION WOULD BE IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT ITSELF, ARE WE CONSIDERING SOME LOW IMPACT, YOU KNOW, IDEAS IN TERMS OF TO BUILD THAT PROJECT?
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I DON'T THINK WE'RE QUITE THERE YET, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD.SO THAT'S COMING. SO LOW IMPACT CERTAINLY.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.
YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A PROPERTY REFERENCE.
MY QUESTION HAS BEEN NOT DEVELOPED.
NOW WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMETHING ON THAT LAND FOR NOT ONLY FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY, BUT FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO BENEFIT FROM IT AND THE CITIZENS TO BENEFIT FROM IT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. COPY THAT.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? YES, MAYOR. I'M STILL A LITTLE HESITANT, BUT I'M A LOT MORE.
SO? SO THESE WAREHOUSES AND OTHER.
I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN, BUT IT IS WITHIN THE THE HEIGHT THAT'S REQUIRED.
I FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE ON THIS ITEM, SIR.
THANK YOU. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL ASPECT TO THIS ASIDE FROM THE STORAGE FACILITY, SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A REALTOR OR SOME PROFESSIONAL BUILDING THAT COULD EMPLOY OTHERS IN 2500FT², IS WHAT JAKE WAS QUOTED ON.
SO I DO FEEL A LITTLE MORE AT PEACE WITH THIS ONE.
ALSO, COUNCILMAN FOSTER MENTIONED IT'S IT'S IN A LOCATION THAT SHOULD BE DEVELOPED.
IT IS THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL MIXED USE AREA.
SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS ONE AS WELL.
SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 179.
STREETS AND OTHER. RIGHTS OF WAY.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MS..
SPECIFICALLY, IF THERE'S A REQUEST FOR CHANGING, ALTERING, VACATING.
THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'VE NEVER REALLY HAD A SECTION IN OUR ORDINANCE.
SO THIS ESTABLISHES POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO HANDLE THAT.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO ASK ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
DEPUTY MAYOR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.
LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE SUBCHAPTERS.
GENERAL PROVISIONS AND DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR SMALL EVENT SPACE PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MS..
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THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO ESTABLISHING SPECIFIC TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT, AN ADDITIONAL DEFINITION OF AN ALLOWABLE USE THAT WOULD BE DEFINED AS A SMALL EVENT SPACE, WHICH IS AN ASSEMBLY, GATHERING OR MEETING SPACE TO INCLUDE CLUBS, LODGES, RECREATIONAL GROUPS, AND SIMILAR USES CONTAINING LESS THAN 5000FT² OF FLOOR AREA WHICH ARE SOLELY CONFINED TO INDOOR SPACES, WITH THEIR OCCUPANCY BEING SUBJECT TO APPLICABLE BUILDING AND FIRE CODES.ANY OUTSIDE SPACES WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
ESSENTIALLY, IN SOME OF THE SMALLER, ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL LIKE LITTLE STRIP MALLS THAT WE HAVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREAS, WE'VE HAD SOME INTEREST IN CREATING SMALL EVENT SPACES.
THEY'D BE LIMITED, AS I JUST READ, TO THE OCCUPANCY LIMITS OF THAT PARTICULAR SPACE.
SO THAT'S WHAT THIS CHANGE WOULD BRING.
ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD, NOT SO MUCH QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, COMMEND STAFF, MISS SHERMAN AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WORKED ON THIS, PARTICULARLY AT SOME OF THE THIS THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION STARTED WITH AN APPLICANT THAT, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY SMALL BUSINESS OWNER TRYING TO START A BUSINESS.
COME TO FIND OUT, DUE TO LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE OR MISGUIDED, YOU KNOW, INVESTED INTO A RENTAL WHERE TO REALIZE IT COULDN'T GET YOU COULDN'T DO WHAT HE WANTED TO DO IN THERE DUE TO ZONING AND STAFF TOOK IT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION, LOOKED AT IT AND AND DID SOME SITE VISIT VISITS AND ADJUST THIS, YOU KNOW, IN A IN A WAY WHERE THIS OCCUPANT CAN DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
I DO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT YOU PUT IN.
AND SO THIS THIS GENTLEMAN WILL BE WILL BE PLEASED.
THANK YOU. AND FUTURE BUSINESS OWNER AS WELL.
YEAH I'M A LITTLE LEERY ON THIS.
AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I THINK WE HAVE OTHER FOR THIS OTHER AREAS FOR THIS USE.
SO I LOOK AT THIS AS THE SOCIAL ASPECT OF PALM BAY ROAD AND THAT ZONING.
RIGHT. AND SO THEY'RE IN THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THAT WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.
THIS IS MORE SO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT, THE RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR.
AND, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL COMPLAINTS FROM, FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'VE EVEN HAD A FEW BUSINESSES THAT THAT HAD TO CLOSE, BECAUSE I THINK THE ISSUE IS MORE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE LANDLORD AND AND LEASING THAT SPACE TO SOMEONE WITHOUT GIVING THEM THE PROPER INFORMATION OF WHAT THE, THE WHAT BUSINESSES ARE ALLOWED IN THAT STRIP MALL.
I DON'T WANT TO CREATE MORE OF A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I KNOW THAT THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, WE HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT HAVE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS OR THAT BUSINESS IS ALLOWED.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT I'M NOT KEEN ON THIS ONE, DEPUTY MAYOR, BECAUSE OF THE IT COULD CAUSE MORE OF A NUISANCE IN MY EYES THAN THAN ENHANCING, ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS OUT THERE. SO THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE I'M STANDING ON THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I'M RELYING ON STAFF ON THIS ONE.
THAT CERTAINLY THESE FOLKS, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING, RIGHT? THEY THEY CERTAINLY.
I WOULD SAY THEY RECOMMEND THAT I'M, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR EFFORT.
AND I DO SEE WHERE YOU THE POINT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE.
BUT KEEP IN MIND THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT LIMIT TO THIS PARTICULAR.
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THIS IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE ACROSS THE BOARD.AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SMALL EVENT SPACE, RIGHT.
UM, I WOULD ASK MISS SHERMAN HOW DEFINE SMALL FOR US IN TERMS OF OCCUPANCY.
WELL, INTERESTINGLY, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 3085 JUPITER LOCATION, THAT PARTICULAR SPACE THAT STARTED THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, BASED ON OUR REVIEW, THEY CAN ONLY HAVE ABOUT 20 PEOPLE.
AND WE'VE EXPLAINED THAT TO THE TENANT THERE.
SO THE LARGEST EVENT THAT HE COULD HAVE TODAY, IF THIS IS APPROVED AND THAT SPACE IS 20 PEOPLE.
YEAH. SO SO THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN.
SO, SO WITH THAT SAID MAYOR, THAT'S I THINK IF WE IF WE, YOU KNOW, LOGICALLY THINKING OF THIS 2025 PEOPLE, I MEAN AND AND I KNOW REFERENCING THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES, RIGHT.
NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THIS APPLICANT, OTHER APPLICANTS, PEOPLE WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES AND SO ON.
BUT BUT ON A ON A BIGGER SCALE, THINK OF THIS OF, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR THE WHOLE CITY.
IT'S NOT FOR THIS PARTICULAR PLACE.
I'M CERTAINLY SUPPORTING THIS.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THIS CHANGE.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
YES, MAYOR. SO FOR SMALL EVENT SPACES, THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT.
TO SERVE ALCOHOL, THEY WILL HAVE TO COME FOR A CONDITIONAL USE.
SO THAT'S WHY ONE I FEEL BETTER WITH THAT.
BUT IF THIS WERE TO PASS, MISS SUZANNE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL IT VAL.
COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. YEAH, I KNOW, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
HE THROWS A PARTY, 100 PEOPLE SHOW UP SO THAT HE'D BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT'S A GOOD ORDINANCE TO THE ORDINANCE TO.
CONTROL OF MASSIVE CROWD AND I'M FOR IT.
BEFORE I HAVE TO SAY, WE JUST GOT TO WATCH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON PARTY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN.
UM, I KNOW HOW THIS CAN GET OUT OF HAND.
AND NOT JUST IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BUT I KNOW THAT.
THESE. THESE EVENTS COULD GET OUT OF HAND IN A HEARTBEAT.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE SELLING OF ALCOHOL, BUT ALSO THERE'S BYOB, YOU KNOW, BRING YOUR OWN BOTTLE.
I DO THINK THAT THIS IS THERE ARE LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR CITY THAT YOU CAN TAILOR TO THIS.
AND I'M REMINDED AND I SHARED THIS IN OUR BRIEFING NOT NOT LONG AGO, WHERE THE PIZZA PLACE IS ON PALM BAY ROAD, RIGHT BEFORE ARLINGTON APARTMENTS.
WE WE HAD A BUSINESS THAT WAS OPERATING AND THEY WEREN'T OPERATING LEGALLY.
AND THERE WAS A SHOOTOUT, IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER, ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
ANYWAY, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS THAT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS SHOULD BE PLACED IN WHERE BUSINESSES SHOULD REACT. NOW, THIS DOES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A NICE SOCIAL CLUB, AND I GET THAT.
I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I SEE NOTHING POSITIVE COMING OUT OF IT.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE CALLS COMING IN ALREADY BEFORE WE ESTABLISH THIS, THIS ORDINANCE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, AGAIN, I'LL GO BACK TO SAYING THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE LANDLORDS SHOULD OF ADDRESSED THE POTENTIAL OF WHAT
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BUSINESSES ARE ALLOWED IN THAT STRIP MALL, WHAT BUSINESSES CAN DO BUSINESS THERE.AND SO FOR THAT, I WON'T SUPPORT THIS.
BUT I'M CALLING THE QUESTION I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE, AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT, DEPUTY MAYOR.
[CONSENT AGENDA]
YES, MAYOR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE PULLED FOUR, FIVE, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN.OKAY. FOUR, FIVE, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN AND TEN.
MOTION TO PASS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOUR, FIVE, EIGHT, NINE AND TEN.
SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DEPUTY MAYOR, MR.
[4. Contract: Lagoon House design, improvements and permitting services, Task Order 23- COPB-Q07 – Parks and Facilities Department (Construction Engineering Group - $38,165).]
BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.IT'S NICE THAT THE CITY GOT A $2 MILLION GRANT FOR PARKS, BUT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT STILL COMES FROM THE TAXPAYERS, I.E. ME. RIGHT.
SO. I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU GOT IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT OUT THAT IF WE'RE TRYING TO EVER BALANCE A BUDGET SOMEPLACE, WE CAN'T JUST KEEP SAYING, WELL, IT'S NO PROBLEM BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GIVE ME THE MONEY WHEN IT'S THE TAXPAYERS THAT ARE GIVEN THAT PERSON THE MONEY.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NOT FOR THIS ITEM. YEAH.
SO MOVE. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
[5. Consideration to appropriate funds ($96,000) and utilize Undesignated Fund Balance ($37,500) to proceed with action against nuisance properties.]
MR. BATMAN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.I HAVE THREE ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.
ONE THIS IS AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION THAT THE CITY IS TAKING.
THEY'RE BEING OUTGOING AND I LOOK AT THAT AS A GOOD JOB.
RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MARKET VALUE FOR THE LAND WILL BE AFTER YOU DO THE CLEANUP? BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST US APPROXIMATELY $4,000 PER RESIDENT.
BUT THEN TO COME BACK TO CITY PROPERTY, WHAT'S THAT VALUE GOING TO BE IF AFTER THE CLEANUP? AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WASN'T WHY WASN'T THE NUISANCE PROPERTY ON OCEAN SPRAY STREET NOT ON THIS LIST? IS IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE ME? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO I'LL START WITH ANSWERING THAT FIRST.
MADAM. MADAM ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE FOR THAT? YES. THE PROPERTY ON OCEAN SPRAY IS IN FORECLOSURE.
THE BANK FILED THE FORECLOSURE PETITION ON NOVEMBER 23RD, 2022.
THE COLON, OF COURSE, IS AN INFERIOR LENGTH LIEN.
VERY SOON, THE BANK SHOULD ACTUALLY BE HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS A MATTER OF BEING ABLE TO SERVE AND GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON.
PART OF THE COMPLAINT. SO THEY HAD SOME MISSTEPS THERE THAT WAY.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR FINAL SUMMARY JUDGMENT, AND THERE IS A HEARING SET.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I TRIED TO PULL IT UP.
BUT BECCA CAN LET ME SEE THE THING, BUT I CAN'T PULL IT OFF.
I CAN'T ACTUALLY OPEN THE DOCUMENT, BUT THE BANK IS VERY CLOSE TO OWNING THE PROPERTY.
OKAY, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
MASTER CHIEF, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN? YES. I DO NOT HAVE THE DETAILS ON THE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS AND THEIR MARKET VALUE OF THE LAND.
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VALUES ARE AT THAT TIME.WE'RE NOT SURE YET HOW LONG THOSE PROCESSES ARE GOING TO TAKE US.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
MAYOR, IS IT THE QUESTION FOR STAFF? NO, IT'S TOO LATE FOR THE QUESTION.
THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. THAT'S FINE.
GOOD. ALL RIGHT, MICHAEL, A QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
[8. Consideration of accepting an award and authorizing execution of the Florida Inland Navigation District (FIND) Waterway Assistance Program (WAP) Agreement for continued improvements to Castaways Point Park ($200,000).]
MR. BATTEN.BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.
CAN THE CITY'S MATCHING FUNDS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO COME UP WITH, THE $100,000 CAN CAN THOSE FUNDS COME OUT OF THE $2 MILLION FDM M GRANT? WE JUST GOT TO FUND THE $100,000 GRANT SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH WERE GRANTED GRANT FUNDS. THEY WERE BOTH GOING TO THE SAME LOCATION, THE SAME PARK, AND WE HAD TO DO A MATCHING FUND OF $100,000 IN ORDER TO GET THE $200,000, EVEN THOUGH WE JUST RECEIVED A $2 MILLION GRANT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY, CAN WE KEEP 100% OF GENERAL FUND? IN GENERAL FUND? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ILLEGAL OR NOT, BUT I'D MUCH RATHER SEE SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY GO TO GIVE ME MY PART INSTEAD OF SOMEBODY INSTEAD OF ME.
THANK YOU MAYOR. WELL, I LIKE YOUR STRATEGIC THINKING ON THAT.
THE $2 MILLION IS FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
SO WE COULD NOT USE THE THAT MONEY TO MATCH THE FINE GRANT, WHICH IS FOR THE SOUTH PIER REPLACEMENT RENOVATION AT CASTAWAY POINT PARK. SO TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.
[9. Consideration of utilizing Fire Impact Fees for various brush truck projects.]
DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. BATTEN. TO MR. BATTEN'S CREDIT, I WAS GOING TO PULL THAT ONE.BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
THE FIRST ONE, HOW MUCH MONEY HAS PREVIOUSLY PREVIOUSLY BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THE REHAB OF THE BRUSH TRUCKS? BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE SPENT LOTS OF MONEY ON THAT PREVIOUSLY.
AND QUESTION NUMBER TWO, WHO OR WHAT DEPARTMENT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING THE FUNDS AND THE PROGRESS OF THIS PROJECT? BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS SUPPOSEDLY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW.
AND NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
AND YOU KNOW ME. I TRY TO FOLLOW IT.
I HATE SEEING MONEY GOING AFTER THE SAME PROJECT WHEN I HAVEN'T SEEN A FINISHED PROJECT YET.
SO WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE AND HOW MUCH HAVE WE PREVIOUSLY SPENT OR PUT OUT FOR THE BRUSH TRUCKS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
THANK YOU MAYOR. SO TO ANSWER THAT, I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW DIFFERENT DETAILS.
SO THE VEHICLES THAT WE'VE PURCHASED, THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAVE COME.
THEY'RE OLD FLORIDA FOREST SERVICE VEHICLES.
SO THEY WERE OLD MILITARY VEHICLES.
IT COST US A DOLLAR TO BUY THEM, ESSENTIALLY.
THE PREVIOUS FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED ONE ONE ALLOCATION WAS 50.
EXCUSE ME, $60,000 FOR BRUSH TRUCK NUMBER FIVE.
ALSO FOR BRUSH TRUCK NUMBER SIX, WE HAD ALLOCATED $180,000, BUT WE HAVE NOT SPENT ALL OF THAT.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY, MR. BATTEN, GET YOU THE PRIOR AGENDA MEMOS IF YOU'D LIKE, FOR THOSE DETAILS.
BUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE THE LEAD, I SHOULD SAY.
TO YOUR POINT, WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS ITEM UP SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST, AND THESE SHOULD BE THE FINAL STEPS WE NEED TO COMPLETE ALL FOUR OF THESE BRUSH STROKES SO THEY'LL BE FULLY OPERATIONAL. TWO OF THEM WILL BE BOTH BRUSH TRUCKS AND HIGH WATER VEHICLES SO THEY CAN SERVE A DUAL PURPOSE.
THANK YOU. YEAH THANK YOU MA'AM.
AND MY QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE.
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IS IT POSSIBLE TO BRING THE CHIEF UP? YES, SIR. CHIEF.SHEEP. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU. YOU TOOK THE OATH EARLIER TODAY, AND WE'RE REALLY HONORED TO HAVE YOU SERVE WITH US.
AND I WANTED YOU TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT.
AND THE WHOLE POINT IS TO HAVE THEM OPERABLE BECAUSE WE'RE COMING INTO DRY SEASON ANYWAY.
YOU MAY NOT THINK SO, BUT WE'RE ABOUT TO HIT DRY SEASON, SO CARRY ON, SIR.
RIGHT. THE BRUSH TRUCKS, AS YOU KNOW, AS MISS SHERMAN HAD MENTIONED, ARE $1 PURCHASES FROM THE FLORIDA FOREST SERVICE. AND WITH THAT WE'VE DONE SOME ALTERATIONS ON THE FIRST TWO.
ONE WAS HIGH WATER, ONE WAS JUST REGULAR BRUSH TRUCK.
ON THE NEXT TWO WE'VE MOVED FORWARD.
WE'VE HAD WE DID HAVE SOME HANG UPS WITH IT.
AND WITH THAT COMES FOUR TRUCKS.
AND THEN THE ONE IS JUST BASICALLY FOR GOING INTO THE WOODS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WITH THESE TRUCKS, THERE ARE 1000 GALLONS PER TRUCK AND THEY DO TYPICAL FIREFIGHTING OF OFF ROAD FIRES, BUSH BRUSH TREES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THE TURRETS. YES, WE DID BRING BACK THE TURRETS.
YES. SO WE'VE THIS IN THIS PROJECT.
THE NEXT TWO WILL HAVE THOSE MOUNTED AS THEY'RE BEING BUILT.
AND TO COMPLETE THE FULL PROJECT WE'RE GOING TO SEND THE FIRST TWO BACK AND HAVE THEM MOUNTED.
AND WITH THESE WE CAN GO PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE FOR EITHER WATER OR FIRE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR FORWARD THINKING, SIR.
THANK YOU. AND IF I MAY SAY ONE THING.
YES, SIR. TRICIA, I'M SORRY I FORGOT TO THANK YOU.
APOLOGIZE. AND TERESA, THANK YOU.
SO MOVED. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN, MR. MATT. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
[10. Acknowledgement of the October 2023 GO Road Bond Paving report.]
THIS IS THE REPORT ON THE GO ROAD BOND REPORT.AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF RESULTS, A LOT OF FORWARD MOTION, WHICH IS GOOD.
THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECTED TO SEE.
BUT YOU KNOW, BILL BATTEN I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE NEGATIVE THAT I CAN FIND IN ANYTHING.
AND IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE NEGATIVE IT BECOMES A THORN IN YOUR SIDE.
SO. WHEN WE GET THE ROADS REPAVED, RESURFACED, AND SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN MAJOR REBUILDS OR MAJOR BUILDS IN SOME CASES.
NOW I'M WATCHING AND A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE COMING IN WHERE WE'RE TEARING UP THE BRAND NEW ROADS IN ORDER TO PUT IN WATER AND SEWER FOR DEVELOPMENTS THAT CAME IN, WHICH WE KNEW SOMETHING LIKE THIS MIGHT HAPPEN IS YOU MAKE YOU PAVE THE ROADS AND THE POPULATION COMES.
ISN'T THAT AMAZING? WE'VE BEEN TELLING THAT FOR 50 YEARS.
BUT THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THIS IS WHENEVER YOU TEAR UP THE ROADS, YOU'RE WEAKENED.
THE THE UNDERLAYMENT OF THE ROAD, AND IT GETS WEAK.
AND THEN WE'LL PUT TWO FOOT WIDE OF BLACKTOP OVER THE, OVER THAT OPEN DITCH.
WE'VE SEEN MANY CASES OF IT ALREADY.
WHAT DO I WANT TO CALL IT? EXPENSE. BECAUSE THE CITY COULDN'T MAINTAIN THE ROADS THE TAXPAYERS WERE.
BUT NOW WE'RE TEARING THEM UP.
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TWO FOOT PIECE OF BLACKTOP OVER THE TOP OF THAT DITCH.START. MAKE IT SO THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET DDOT CRITERIA.
SO I HAVE A BETTER CHANCE ON THIS ROAD THAT I PAID $150 MILLION HOLDING UP FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR.
AND I'M ONLY TRYING TO SEE THIS BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY SEEN THE RESULTS OF WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING.
AND THEY'RE STARTING TO WE SEE THE WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND IT'S ALREADY FAILING.
WHEN YOU DRIVE OVER THEM, YOU SEE THE RESULT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
AND CERTAINLY WE'LL TALK INTERNALLY ABOUT OUR PROCESS AND REPORT BACK ON THAT.
WELL, AND AS PART OF THIS UPDATE, DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE REST OF COUNCIL, AT OUR LAST MEETING WHERE MISS GIANCARLO BROWN SAT IN YOUR SEAT AND LED US, UM, WE WE SPOKE OF THE DEFICIT IN OUR GOAT ROAD PROGRAM, AND UNDERSTANDABLY SO.
SUPPLIES CHANGE, GAS, YOU KNOW, COST OF PETROLEUM AND ALL THAT AND AND THE DIRECTION.
AND I JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD THAT WE'VE GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION TO LET US GET TOGETHER.
LET'S TRY TO COME UP WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS.
LET'S LET'S EXPAND THE POOL OF KNOWLEDGE AND WISDOM TO SEE HOW WE COULD START ADDRESSING THIS.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WHAT, $70 MILLION IN IN THE DEFICIT.
AND SO WE NEED TO RESOLVE THIS, THIS DEFICIT.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I NEED A MOTION.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[PROCUREMENTS]
ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SHERMAN.THANK YOU. MAYOR, JUST BRIEFLY, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP ITEM TO ONE YOU SAW AT THE OCTOBER 5TH COUNCIL MEETING, WHERE WE BRING YOU A LIST OF OTHER AGENCIES TERM CONTRACTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO USE DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.
THERE WERE ANOTHER EIGHT CONTRACTS THAT WE WANTED TO ADD FOR BOTH I.T.
SO THAT IS WHAT THIS LIST IS AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. NOTHING FOR PROCUREMENTS.
SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[NEW BUSINESS]
AND SO STAFF HAS LOOKED AT I DON'T KNOW IF DEPUTY MAYOR YOU WERE AT OUR PATRIOTS EVENT.UM, IF YOU HEAR HIS STORY, IT WAS CAPTIVATING ON THE AMOUNT OF MISSIONS THAT HE WENT.
THOSE WERE EXPLOSIVES, IEDS, IN PARTICULAR WHILE HE SERVED IN AFGHANISTAN, OR HE WAS OR OIF ONE OF THE TWO, I THINK HE WAS OFF.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT JUST MOVED ME LIKE KEITH VAN BUREN, THE AT THE FIRST PATRIOTS EVENT, HE MOVED ME ON HIS MOTIVATION TOWARDS GOING TO SERVE THIS NATION AFTER THE SEPTEMBER 11TH ATTACKS.
HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN OIF NOW THAT I'M RECALLING.
ANYWAY, I'D LIKE TO FLY A FLAG IN HIS HONOR FOR HIS SERVICE.
HE IS ALSO A PURPLE HEART RECIPIENT.
SO ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. OKAY.
NO SPEAKER CARDS. I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVED. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.
NEW BUSINESS. MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2023, DASH 101, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 203, TO BE TITLED MANDATORY CONNECTION TO POTABLE WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
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HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT BEFORE WITH COUNCIL AND THE INTENT OF THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE IS TO CREATE A MANDATORY CONNECTION REQUIREMENT FOR BOTH WATER AND SEWER IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND WHAT THIS ORDINANCE BRINGS FORTH AND OUR APPROACH WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ABOUT 32,000 EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS AND ABOUT 12,000 EXISTING DRINKING WATER WELLS.
WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN A POSITION TO EXTEND FURTHER LINES IN THE CITY FOR EITHER SEWER OR WATER, BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE MANDATORY CONNECTION AND THEREFORE COULD NOT REQUIRE FOLKS TO CONNECT IF WE EXTENDED THE LINE.
SO WITHOUT HAVING THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE, THAT MEANS THAT SEPTIC TANKS AND INDIVIDUAL DRINKING WATER WELLS CONTINUE TO BE INSTALLED AND THERE IS NO OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WITH THE THE SERVICES.
THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS WE HAVE AN INCREASING CONCERN ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF THE SEPTIC TANKS, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE SEPTIC TANKS, THE AGING SEPTIC TANKS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WE ALSO HAVE CONCERNS AND FREQUENT REQUESTS FROM OUR RESIDENTS FOR HELP IN ACCESSING CITY WATER IN PLACES WHERE THEY HAVE WELLS, WHEN THEIR WELLS ARE CONTAMINATED OR ARE NOT OF GOOD QUALITY OR HAVE RUN DRY, WHICH IS HAPPENING INCREASINGLY.
THE MORE WELLS WE HAVE, THE MORE THAT PROBLEM EXISTS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE HAVE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IS, IN ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE, A PHASING APPROACH THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO OVER A PERIOD OF ABOUT FOUR YEARS, BE ABLE TO CONNECT ALL OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE WATER AVAILABLE BUT ARE NOT CONNECTED.
THE DEVELOPED PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN EXISTENCE TODAY.
AND RIGHT NOW, THAT COUNT IS A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND PARCELS THAT HAVE WATER AVAILABLE BUT ARE NOT.
EXCUSE ME, I'M FLIPPING IT ABOUT 2300 PARCELS WHERE WATER IS AVAILABLE, BUT THEY HAVE NOT CONNECTED.
SO THIS FOUR YEAR PROGRAM WOULD CONNECT ALL OF THOSE PARCELS.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS TO YOU TODAY IS STAFF HAS WORKED VERY HARD TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE KNOW, WHICH HAS BEEN THE COST FOR THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER, THE EXISTING HOMEOWNER, TO CONNECT AND SPECIFIC TO THE SEWER SIDE OF THINGS.
SO WE'VE GOT SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE, AND THOSE THINGS INCLUDE $420,000 THAT COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED OUT OF ARPA FUNDS. WE THIS PAST YEAR RECEIVED $2.1 MILLION FROM THE STATE IN APPROPRIATIONS TO SUPPORT SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSIONS, TO HELP PAY FOR THE CUSTOMER SIDE OF THAT.
WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT IN THIS PART OF THE AGENDA AND THE MOTION THAT WE WAIVE, ALL OF THE UTILITY IMPACT FEE AND MAINLINE EXTENSION COSTS, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION, BUT ALSO REDUCES SIGNIFICANTLY THE COST TO THE HOMEOWNER.
AND WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING MANDATORY CONNECTION IN PLACE.
WE ALSO CURRENTLY HAVE AN APPROACH THAT YOU ALL APPROVED RECENTLY TO APPLY FOR ANOTHER $5 MILLION IN STATE APPROPRIATIONS FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER ASSISTANCE, WHICH WOULD HELP WITH THAT PROJECT.
BEYOND THAT, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE THROUGH DIFFERENT GRANT PROGRAMS. ONCE YOU HAVE MANDATORY CONNECTION IN PLACE FOR SEWER.
BUT YOU CAN'T GET THAT KIND OF MONEY IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MANDATORY CONNECTION ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
SO THAT'S A VERY BIG DEAL FOR US.
ALSO, THE THE COUNTY PROGRAM SWIRL THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
BUT BEYOND THAT, THEY HAVE ABOUT $10 MILLION IN SORREL MONEY THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND THAT $10 MILLION IS ALL SET ASIDE FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPANDING SEWER LINES IN AREAS VERY CLOSE TO TURKEY CREEK THAT DO NOT YET HAVE SEWER ACCESS.
THEY'RE STILL ON SEPTIC TANKS.
WE COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE PROJECTS.
AND THAT $10 MILLION THAT'S HELD BY SORREL, UNLESS WE HAVE A MANDATORY CONNECTION ORDINANCE.
SO THIS DECISION TONIGHT WILL HELP US DETERMINE HOW WE RESPOND TO THEM.
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SO, IN SHORT, THE THE REQUEST WE HAVE OF YOU TONIGHT IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THIS MANDATORY CONNECTION ORDINANCE FOR WATER AND SEWER.WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A GOOD FUNDING STRATEGY TO HELP THOSE CONNECT TO SEWER AND ABANDON THEIR SEPTIC TANKS OVER A MULTI YEAR PERIOD, AND IF APPROVED, WE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY APPLYING FOR ADDITIONAL GRANTS AND STATE SUPPORT FOR AND COUNTY SUPPORT, I SHOULD SAY, AS WELL FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO GET THIS DONE FOR OUR CITY.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, CHRIS LITTLE, IS HERE TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AS WELL.
THANK YOU. AND SO THIS IS A STATE MANDATE.
THAT'S THAT'S THE FIRST THING.
AND AND OUR STATE LEGISLATORS HAVE ENCOURAGED US TO TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, MADAM SHERMAN.
YES. AND AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF FUTURE GRANTS FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF AT THIS TIME? THEN LET'S GO TO SPEAKER CARDS.
SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
WILL SOMEBODY BE ASSIGNED TO OVERLOOK OVER OVERLOOK THIS PROGRAM CONNECTION AS IT PASSED.
I'M SORRY, SIR. DIDN'T YOU HAVE A GROUP OF PEOPLE OR ONE PERSON? HE'S. HE'S ASKING.
HE'S ASKING WHO'S GOING TO OVERSEE THE PROGRAM? OF MAKING SURE EVERYBODY'S CONNECTING AND EVERYTHING.
OH I SEE. THIS WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, SIR.
THE. WHAT DEPARTMENT? UTILITIES. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. AND WE WILL WE BE GETTING AN ANNUAL REPORT ON THE STATUS OF THESE CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY? OH, YES. ABSOLUTELY.
IF IF ADOPTED, WE WOULD CERTAINLY GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE AS FREQUENTLY AS YOU WOULD LIKE IT.
REGARDING THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM.
THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS ALWAYS HAPPY TO FIELD CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS AT ANY TIME.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. BIDEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I UNDERSTAND THE DILEMMA THAT THE CITY IS IN.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT A LONG TIME.
AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY BECAUSE OF EMINENT DOMAIN COURT ACTIONS.
GOT HAD TO PAY $3,000,031.9 MILLION FOR THE UTILITIES THAT THEY GOT FROM GENERAL DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THAT GENERATES THE FIRST QUESTION WHO PAID FOR THAT? WHO PAID FOR IT.
WHICH WAS? DID IT COME OUT OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS? DID IT COME OUT FROM ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WHICH WE DID NOT HAVE AT THAT TIME BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE A UTILITY DEPARTMENT? THE NEXT ITEM WAS, YOU'RE GOING TO CONSIDER LETTING THE PEOPLE THAT REFUSE TO HOOK UP, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM, WHEN 90% OF YOUR OTHER RESIDENTS DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT FREEDOM.
BUT YOU'RE NOW GOING TO PAT THEM ON THE BACK AND SAY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BREAK.
WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU HOOK UP.
IF YOU BECAUSE WE'RE MANDATING IT, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A BREAK.
THAT'S $14 MILLION WORTH OF GRANTS THAT YOU'RE WRITING AWAY OF FUNDS COMING INTO THIS CITY RIGHT NOW, ALONG WITH THAT SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU $14 MILLION BREAK.
HOW ABOUT ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT DID HOOK UP.
RIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY 18 $18,000 FOR EACH PERSON.
OKAY. IT ONLY APPLIES TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE IT AVAILABLE NOW.
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WHICH MEANS ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE IT.WE'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH THAT PRICE THAT YOU DIDN'T GIVE THE BREAK TO.
IT'S A WRONG APPROACH, RIGHT? THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HAZARDOUS WASTE.
PERIODIC. LET'S SAY WE HAD A STORM A MONTH AGO.
WHO WAS THE BIG POLLUTER? THE CITY OF PALM BAY, NOT THE RESIDENTS.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY WAS THE BIG POLLUTER, AND THAT COMES OUT OF THE SAME THING.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET $14 MILLION TO WRITE.
HAD YOU COULD ONLY BUILD ON ONE THIRD OF YOUR STREETS IF THEY DID NOT HAVE CITY WATER AND SEWER.
SO WHERE DOES THE FAULT LIE? RIGHT THERE. LAST ONE.
WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE RECYCLE OF WATER.
FINAL POINT I BROUGHT UP WHAT MY HOOKUP IS FOR MY RESIDENTS.
THIS IS JUST FOR THE LINE FRONTAGE.
$17,816. IT'S ON YOUR WEBSITE.
YOU LOOK IT UP, IT'LL TELL YOU WHAT YOU HAVE TO PAY.
THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING.
THANK YOU. LOOKING AT. THANK YOU.
NEXT WEEK. THIS COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR.
SO MOVED. SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR I'VE I WAS SITTING I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN THIS CAME, CAME ABOUT.
UM. AND I'VE SEEN YOU MAY HAVE AS WELL.
THEY WERE IN A DIFFERENT SPACE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT IT. THEY DIDN'T CARE FOR IT AT THE TIME.
IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS TONIGHT WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT TIME AND A DIFFERENT PLACE.
I'M NOT GOING TO TALK TOO MUCH ABOUT THAT.
IT'S THE TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
THIS IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING.
THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IF WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS STATE IS IN TROUBLE BECAUSE WE HAVE ISSUES WITH WATER.
YOU WOULDN'T THINK THAT BEING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
SO WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
WE GETTING DIRECTION FROM OUR STATE LEGISLATURES, ENCOURAGING US TO GO IN THIS DIRECTION.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY FORTHCOMING.
AND IN TERMS OF REALLY HELPING US TO CURE PART OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES. THIS IS A STATE MANDATE, A STATE STATUTE.
SO EVERY INDICATOR IS SHOWING THAT THIS IS A DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO.
GO IN. WE'VE SEEN NOT TOO LONG AGO, OVER MAYBE 30 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR RESIGNED IN PORT SAINT LUCIE.
PORT SAINT LUCIE WERE IN THE SAME PREDICAMENT THAT WE WERE.
WE ARE NOW TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
PORT SAINT LUCIE FAR EXCEED PALM BAY BECAUSE THEY MAKE THOSE TOUGH DECISIONS.
MAYOR, I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION.
MAY I HAVE SOME POLITICAL REPERCUSSIONS? AND MY WHEN WHEN I ROSE MY RIGHT HAND AND SWORE TO SERVE THIS CITY GOOD AND BAD.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS FUN.
THE DECISION WE MAKE HERE AND.
AND AS LONG AS I CAN SLEEP AT NIGHT AND I FEEL LIKE I CAN SLEEP TONIGHT, ONCE I LEAVE HERE MAKING THAT DECISION, I'M SUPPORTING THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY. THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD BE MOVING TOWARDS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION, BUT IT WAS REALLY NOTHING ELSE TO ADD TO IT.
UM, YEAH, I WAS HERE IN 2019, FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN IT HAPPENED AND THIS PLACE WAS PACKED.
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SO I UNDERSTAND MR. BATTEN'S POINT, BUT I WILL SAY, I KNOW NOT JUST FOR THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, BUT FOR THE SESSIONS TO COME.HERE AND NOW. AND SEEING THAT MR. LITTLE'S NOT GETTING HECKLED AND BOOED IS VERY COMFORTING AS WELL.
SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AS WELL.
ANY COMMENTS? YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT.
CARRY ON. I'M NOT GOING TO BE SO NICE.
IT'S UNDER THE GROUND ON YOUR FRONT YARD.
AND WHEN IT GETS FOULED AND BACKED UP, YOU GOT TO HIRE SOMEONE TO COME OUT AND CLEAN IT.
THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.
EVEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE WALKED THEIR DOG, THEY CLEAN UP BEHIND THEIR DOG.
THEY DON'T LET IT LEAVE ON THE FRONT.
THEY DON'T LEAVE THE POOP ON THE FRONT YARD.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT YOU'RE WRONG.
THE WASTE IS GOING RIGHT IN YOUR FRONT YARD AND IT'S UPLIFTING.
AND AND YOU GOT TO PAY SOMEONE TO COME AND CLEAN YOUR SEPTIC TANK.
EITHER WAY, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR WASTE.
THAT'S MY POINT. THE POINT IS GOING TO.
BUT ALSO MY POINT IS YOU DON'T WANT TO MESS UP YOUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE GOT ONE. WE GOT ONE SET OF LAND HERE IN PALM BAY AND THAT'S OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE ALL LIVE HERE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OUR WASTE IS PROPERLY DISPOSED OF.
AND OUR WATER, WE HAVE GOOD QUALITY WATER.
I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE 2018.
IT WAS A PACKED HOUSE AND I SAID WE SHOULD FOLLOW THE STATE STATUTE.
AND OMNIBUS. THE STATE STATUTE AND THE LAST COUNCIL DIDN'T DO IT.
NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE MANY YEARS AGO.
MANY YEARS AGO. JUST LIKE THE ROAD.
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE MANY YEARS AGO.
BUT WE COULD GET IF WE COULD GET GRANTS TO PAY FOR THAT AND KEEP OUR ENVIRONMENT SAFE AND CLEAN.
THAT'S THE IDEA COMING THROUGH IN MY HEAD.
EVERYBODY'S TAKING A POOP ON THEIR FRONT YARD AND DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT.
ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT COMES IN PALM BAY GOT TO HOOK UP TO WATER AND SEWER.
WE GOT TO HOOK UP TO ANY APARTMENT BUILDING AFTER HOOK UP TO WATER AND SEWER.
SO LET'S LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING HERE.
LET'S CREATE A GOOD ENVIRONMENT.
WE ALREADY WENT TO BAT FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON WITH THE BAFFLE BOXES.
WHY? WHY DID WE WHY DID WE FIGHT SO HARD FOR THAT? AND THE STATE LEGISLATOR, DEBBIE MAYFIELD, BACKED US.
WHY DID WE FIGHT SO HARD FOR THAT? BECAUSE WE WANT OUR ENVIRONMENT TO BE CLEAN AND SAFE.
BUT WE DON'T. WE DON'T NEED TO LIVE ON TOP OF POOP WHEN WE CAN FIX IT.
SO LET'S PASS THIS AND GET IT DONE.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOU WERE IN THE AUDIENCE, TOO, WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE COUNCIL IN 2019.
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WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT SPACED OUT.KIND OF LIKE AN AMORTIZATION, IF YOU WILL.
NOW, I WILL SPEAK TO MASTER CHIEF BATTEN'S POINT.
AND THAT IS GIVING SOMEONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HOOK UP.
FOR PEOPLE NOT TO BE ABLE TO MORTGAGE THEIR HOMES JUST TO HOOK UP AND THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AND THERE'S THERE'S FINANCING THERE AT THIS POINT IN JUNCTURE. AND THE STATE IS MORE ENCOURAGING IF WE DID HAVE THIS IN PLACE.
THE POINT OF RESPONSIBLE GROWTH, THIS IS IT.
WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT BEING RESPONSIBLE AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW.
THIS IS A PART OF THAT EQUATION.
AND I DID WORK OFFLINE WITH MANY DISCUSSIONS.
AND WE WE'VE WE'VE COME TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN DO THAT.
WE'VE LITERALLY COME TO THAT POINT AND I TRULY BELIEVE IN IF YOU REMEMBER, I DISCLOSED IT AT ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS WHEN FELLSMERE GOT $50 MILLION.
AND I'M LIKE, HOW WE NEEDED THAT $50 MILLION SO THAT WE CAN ASSIST OUR RESIDENTS TO TO HOOK IN.
WELL, THE EASY ANSWER WAS THAT THEY HAD A STATE MANDATE.
AND THAT WAS PART OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HELPING INCREASING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS IS A RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE PHASED IN.
SO I'M AT THE POINT WHERE I IF WE'RE GOING TO THINK ABOUT THE CITY'S FUTURE AND BEING RESPONSIBLE WHEN WE GROW, THIS IS PART OF THAT AND PART OF THE EQUATION. MISTER BATON OR MASTER CHIEF, I GOT TO THINK ABOUT.
YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S OTHERS THAT I CAN'T HELP.
BUT IF I CAN HELP SOMEONE TODAY, THEN I'M HELPING SOMEONE AND MOVING FORWARD.
AND THAT'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT THIS.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A POINT WHERE THE DECISIONS GOT TO BE MADE, AND TODAY IS THAT DAY.
SO I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS AS WELL.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WAS THAT AN I COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YES, SIR. PASSES FOUR ZERO.
WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.
[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]
MR. FOSTER OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.I DON'T HAVE NONE AT THIS TIME.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. NOTHING, SIR.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. AS WE ALL AWARE OF WHAT TRANSPIRED IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITH ISRAEL AND.
THAT WAY IN QUITE A BIT ON MY ON MY HEART AND MY SPIRIT THIS PAST WEEK.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS A VERY SAD AND TRAGIC SITUATION AND I THINK.
I MEAN, I'M PROPOSING TO THIS BODY TO.
NOT A LETTER PER SE, BUT MAYBE A RELEASE, A MEDIA RELEASE WHERE AS A BODY, AS A CITY, AS A MUNICIPALITY. SHOWS SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL.
LET'S PUT IT OUT AND MAKE IT KNOWN.
I THINK IT THAT MAY BE A NATIONAL MOVE ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, BUT IT DOESN'T STOP US AS A MUNICIPALITY, AS A BODY TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT, AS MANY OTHERS HAVE DONE IT.
I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL IF THEY WOULD SUPPORT THAT STAFF, PUT A MEDIA RELEASE OUT.
LET IT BE KNOWN THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY ALSO SENT WITH ISRAEL IN THIS DURING THIS TRAGIC TIME.
UM, AND I'M, I'M ACTUALLY PROUD THAT YOU DID.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
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I BELIEVE AS ISRAEL GOES, SO DOES THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHAT THAT ACT WAS, THEIR EXPERIENCE OF SEPTEMBER 11TH AND AND IT WAS A COMPLETE TERRORIST ACT. PART OF THAT IS I'M IN AGREEMENT.
WE COULD SEND A LETTER, AS YOU KNOW, ANTI-SEMITISM.
AND I WANT TO I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR MOVING A COUNCIL MEETING SO THAT I'M ABLE TO ATTEND THAT ANTI-SEMITISM CONFERENCE DOWN IN SOUTH FLORIDA.
SO THAT WAS THE THE PREMISE OF WHAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH.
AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO STAND WITH ISRAEL AS A CITY AND AS A NATION.
AND AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY CONCUR YOUR THOUGHTS AND SENDING THAT.
WE COULD DO THAT, SEND IT TO THE ISRAELI EMBASSY.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AND TO THE AMBASSADOR HERE AS WELL. AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE MY DAY TO BE ABLE TO SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT SAYING THAT WE STAND WITH ISRAEL.
YES, SIR. I GOT A THUMBS UP FROM COUNCILMAN JOHNSON COUNCILMAN FOSTER.
ARE YOU ON THE LINE? COUNCILMAN.
FOSTER. IS HE ON? YES, SIR. WE NEED TO SUPPORT ISRAEL.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? JUST WANTED TO ADD CERTAINTY.
WHEN I REACH OUT TO STAFF AND THEY RECOMMEND.
THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE SHOULD GO.
WANTED THAT STATEMENT TO BE KNOWN WAY EARLIER THAN THAT.
AND BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S A PROCESS, STAFF SAID.
THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD DO IT.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE ALL ARE ONE ACCORD ON THAT ONE.
I WAS BITING MY TONGUE ALL ALL THIS TIME, IF YOU WILL.
SO UNDER MY REPORTS, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE MAJOR MOVEMENT.
PROUDLY. AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO REPORT ON SPACE COAST TPO.
I WAS OUT THERE, WE WE HAD A BRIEFING REGARDING THE BUSSES, AND I THOUGHT OF DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY'RE THEY'RE ACTUALLY TRANSPORTING FOLKS, NOT NECESSARILY ON A BUS.
AND SO TERESE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT.
AND I'VE ASKED THEM TO NOT ONLY SHARE IT WITH ME, BUT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION ALSO WAS REGARDING THE REPORT ON.
THE CONSTRUCTION OF GOING WEST ON MALABAR, EXTENDING THE THE EXIT LANE ON 95.
AND MY CONCERNS TO THE SECRETARY, WHICH I RELATE WAS THE THE TIMEFRAME OF THAT. I REALLY NEED THAT ELEVATED EXPEDITED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUNTY ROAD WEST.
SO WE'VE GOTTEN I'VE SHARED WITH MADAM SHERMAN, WE'VE GOTTEN A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM COMMISSIONER FELTNER, WHICH IS DISTRICT FOUR.
AND THEY'RE ACCEPTING, YOU KNOW, HAVING STAFF MOVING FORWARD TO TRY AND EXPEDITE THAT AS WELL.
I KEEP EMPHASIZING THAT WE DID LOSE A LIFE ON 95.
AND I'LL KEEP REITERATING THAT.
AND I DID GET THE SUPPORT FROM THE TPO, ALONG WITH ANDREA YOUNG FROM WEST MELBOURNE, WHO IS THE CHAIR, REGARDING THOSE EFFORTS.
I'M REPORTING BACK TO YOU THAT WE JUST NEED TO KEEP HIGHLIGHTING THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT CORRIDOR AND LET LET US CONTINUE TO GET THOSE LETTERS OUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSION, ALONG WITH, IF YOU WILL, THE COUNTY MANAGER TO GIVE HIM A HEADS UP OR COPY IN THE COUNTY MANAGER AS WE GET THOSE LETTERS.
[02:40:06]
AND SO NOW I'M ON.YES, SIR. ONE THING AS FAR AS THE THE BUSSES, THE ROUTES.
YEAH, THERE'S AN EMAIL OUT THERE.
I'M. MY ASSUMPTION IS IT'S PUBLIC.
I RECEIVED IT I'M SURE WE ALL COUNCIL MEMBER RECEIVED IT AS WELL.
IT'S A SURVEY ESSENTIALLY PRETTY MUCH SURVEYING WHAT'S GOING ON, THE CONDITION OF THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC TRANSIT, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE AREA THAT UNDERSERVED AND SO ON.
THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD, GOOD PIECES OF INFORMATION.
I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF CAN FOLLOW UP TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN MAYBE SHARED WITHIN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, GIVE OUR RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO IT, TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS SHARE THAT EMAIL WITHIN MY MY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GROUPS THAT I CAN I CAN POTENTIALLY SHARE IT WITH. BUT MY ASSUMPTION IS IT'S PUBLICLY OPEN JUST TO HAVE A SENSE OF COLLECTING DATA TO SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING WITH THE PUBLIC TRANSIT.
AND WAS THAT FROM THE TPO? JUST TO CLARIFY. YES. YEAH.
AND THAT'S THAT'S A SCAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN.
UM, REGARDING THE SURVEY, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC CAN DEFINITELY WEIGH IN ONLINE.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW ON ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS, MADAM SHERMAN.
[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS]
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST IS INFORMATIONAL.THAT SECTION OF THE ROAD IS STILL BREVARD COUNTY'S.
AND SO WE'VE WE'VE FINISHED THE LAST BIT, WHICH WAS A LIGHTING CONSULTANT.
THEY ASKED US TO HIRE TO DO ANOTHER SET OF PLANS.
THAT IS DONE, AND OUR PLAN IS TO RESUBMIT EVERYTHING TO THE COUNTY NEXT WEEK.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WE'RE AT THE END OF OCTOBER.
WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THAT TO THEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW.
SO PREFERABLY BEFORE THE SECOND SEMESTER, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE BUILD WOULD TAKE.
I KNOW THAT'S ALWAYS THE BIG QUESTION, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT FROM THE TEAM.
YES, MA'AM. BUT FIRST, TO GET THE PERMIT.
WE HAVE. IT'S A SHORT TURNAROUND TIME.
THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SOME FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED TO STUDY PARTICULAR AREAS THAT MAY BE BROWNFIELDS IN THE CITY, AREAS THAT WERE ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL ISSUES IN OUR VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENT THAT WE DID A LITTLE BIT AGO.
SO ESSENTIALLY, ALL I'M ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS CONSENSUS TO EXPLORE AN APPLICATION FOR THAT.
AND ULTIMATELY, I BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE SHORT TIME FRAME, WE MAY BE ALREADY IN A PLACE WHERE WE'LL HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT KIND OF GRANT APPLICATION, AN AGREEMENT TO PRESENT TO YOU AT THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT TONIGHT IF I COULD.
I'M THUMBS UP WITH THE BROWNFIELD GRANT.
GO AHEAD. DOES THAT REQUIRE ANY MATCHING? TO MY UNDERSTANDING IT DOES NOT.
YEAH OKAY. YES WE GOT THREE AND I'M SURE OKAY.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU KNOW I MEANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
ARE YOU ARE YOU SPEAKING? COUNCILMAN FOSTER? YEAH.
COPY THAT. THANK YOU. BROTHER.
I WANTED TO TRY AND HONE IN A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, IF I CAN, WITH STAFF.
YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY MOTIVATED ABOUT THE EMPLOYMENT ASPECT OF THIS.
NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, LOOK AT WAYS WHERE DISTANCE WISE TO RIGHT.
WE GOT TOO MANY. IN ONE CLUSTER.
BUT EMPLOYMENT I THINK, IS THE KEY.
SO IF I GET A THUMBS UP FROM YOU, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT INITIATIVE.
ALL RIGHT. SO I GOT THUMBS UP HERE.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND MADAM SMITH, YOUR REPORTS.
THANK YOU MA'AM. SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]
[02:45:02]
BUTCH OREN SENT UP.YES, SIR. TURBINE IN THE FIRST.
IF YOU GUYS ARE THAT CONCERNED WITH THE SEPTIC TANKS IN PALM BAY, WHY DO YOU CONSIDER OR WHY DO YOU KEEP APPROVING NEW BUILDS IN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE THE SEWER? GO BACK TO THE ONE THIRD BUILD OUT.
THAT WAY, AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE IT.
THE SIDEWALK FROM TURNER HIGH SCHOOL EASTBOUND HAS BEEN FLOODED FOR OVER A MONTH AND A HALF.
THE STUDENTS CANNOT WALK IN IT.
THE PARENTS HAVE BEEN DRIVING ON THIS PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
NOW THEY HAVE A MUD PIT THERE SO THE STUDENTS CAN'T DO ANYTHING THERE.
THEY'RE GOING UP INTO THE OLD GOLF COURSE TO GET HOME TO AND FROM SCHOOL.
I THINK IT IS. IS THE NEXT ONE.
DOES THE CITY ORDINANCES GET REVIEWED FROM TIME TO TIME? I SEE A YES, BUT I'VE SEEN ONE THAT WAS FROM THE 70S.
AND I HAD THE NUMBER WRITTEN DOWN.
I LET THE PAPER DOWN. SOMETHING ABOUT BICYCLES.
I THINK I'VE SEEN A POSSIBLE CAUSE FOR WHY WE HAD SUCH A BIG PROBLEM.
THE DRAINAGE DITCHES, THE GUYS COME OUT AND CUT THE GRASS.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THEY JUST LEAVE IT THERE.
SO NOW IT GOES INTO THE DITCH.
WHEN IT GETS WET, IT BECOMES A DAM.
THE WATER CAN'T GO ANYWHERE, SO IT BACKS UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT.
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU ALL. YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY.
DID WE MAKE A NOTE OF THE SIDEWALKS AND.
YES. AND WE'LL JUST FOLLOW UP WITH MR. RAND ABOUT THE OTHER ITEM FOR THE ONE ORDINANCE FROM THE 70S.
OKAY. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND YOU'RE NEXT, MAN.
YOU CAN GET CLOSER, IF YOU WILL.
IT'LL BE ALMOST SEVEN YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, I TIP MY HAT TO ALL OF YOU.
YOU TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH, AND I'M ASTOUNDED.
AND A LOT OF THAT DRAINING INTO THE.
AND BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE ENCOURAGEMENT IS THE PLAN THAT'S PUT IN PLACE.
HOW WELL THOUGHT OUT IS HOW CONCISE IT IS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU DID BEFORE.
I THINK COUNCILMAN FOSTER DAMAGED ME.
SO EVERY TIME I DO POOP PATROL FOR MY BORDER COLLIE, I'M GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT.
SUPPOSE YOU TOOK A POOP IN YOUR YARD THAT YOU CAN'T FORGET.
SO WHAT I TRY TO IMPRESS ON YOU ALSO IS TO LOOK IN THE FUTURE.
SO IN FIVE YEARS YOU'RE AT 162, TEN YEARS WE'RE AT 189.
HOW IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU'RE GONE? I REMEMBER IN COLORADO I WAS OUT AND I SAID, DID I NOT THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE HERE? OKAY. THEY SPENT 30 YEARS TO PUT IN LIGHT RAIL.
IS THAT AN IDEA TO CONNECT THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES? BECAUSE THE BUS SERVICE SUCKS TO BE KIND.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IN 10 OR 15 YEARS WHEN WE'RE BUILDING LIKE CRAZY HERE? SO, YOU KNOW, AS A STAFF, AS OUR LEADERSHIP, ARE YOU LOOKING ON THE STANDARD THREE YEAR PLAN AND FIVE YEAR PLAN?
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ARE YOU LOOKING OUT TEN YEARS OR YOU'RE LOOKING AT 20 YEARS? ARE YOU LOOKING AT WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE FOR THE NEXT BOARD TO COME IN? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE THEM, AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO PLAN AROUND THAT? SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANT TO KIND OF TICKLE YOUR FANCY WITH AND HAVE YOU LOOK AT, BUT AGAIN.OH, AND FINALLY, WE REALLY DO NEED A GOLF COURSE IN PALM BAY.
I MEAN, IT'S WITH A GOLF COMPANY, THE GOLF CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY.
THE OTHER THING REAL QUICK IS WHAT'S OUR PROPERTY GOING TO BE WORTH IN TEN YEARS, 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS? PEOPLE KEEP MOVING INTO THE STATE.
YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T GO BACK TO JERSEY IF I HIT LOTTERY, I'D COME HERE.
THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. MA'AM.
EILEEN SEVEN 1230 RAIL ROAD NORTHEAST.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, I CAME HERE AND EXPLAINED WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE FLOODING ON FRIEL ROAD.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE CANAL WAS CLEARED EARLY THE NEXT DAY, AND IT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE HAD ALL ALL THAT RAIN. THERE WAS NO FLOODING ON THE STREET.
I DID GO BACK THERE A FEW DAYS LATER TO SEE, TO LOOK AT THE CULVERT WHERE IT WAS CLEARED, AND IT WAS, BUT IN THAT CANAL I SAW.
HOW DO I PUT THIS POLITELY? YOU'RE IN CONTAINERS, ALL KINDS OF GARBAGE.
OKAY. I CANVASED MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND ASKED HOW MANY PEOPLE DRINK FROM THE FAUCET.
YOU KNOW, LIKE THE WATER STRAIGHT OUT OF THE FAUCET? NOBODY. NOT ONE PERSON.
THEY ALL BOIL THEIR WATER FIRST.
THE SMELL WAS UNBELIEVABLE AND IT STILL LINGERS.
OKAY. IT WASN'T SEPTICS, IT WAS A CITY SEWER.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE MAINTENANCE IS NOT BEING DONE.
SOMEBODY. I THINK YOU'RE GETTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
IT'S GREAT TO GET $50 MILLION TO GET PEOPLE TO CONVERT.
BUT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THESE CANALS WHERE I, WHERE I AM.
THAT CANAL IS RIGHT BEHIND A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WHERE TRUCKS PARK.
I'M SORRY, TRUCKS PARK ALL NIGHT LONG.
THERE'S A GRAVEL ROAD THAT I HAD ASKED.
I SPOKE TO SUZANNE A WHILE AGO AND ASKED IF IT COULD BE GATED OFF.
IT LOOKS LIKE MUD EVEN AFTER ALL THAT RAIN.
IT'S THIS IS THE WATER THAT WE DRINK.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO REALLY SERIOUSLY LOOK AT.
CLEANING UP OUR EXISTING SYSTEM BEFORE YOU EXPAND IT AND HAVE MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING SEWAGE AND EVERYTHING ELSE INTO OUR SYSTEM.
ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
CAN YOU PROVIDE THE INFORMATION TO STAFF? I'M NOT SURE IF WE KNOW THE LOCATION.
I HAVE MS.. SEPS CONTACT INFORMATION, SO I'LL.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? I'M SCANNING THE AUDIENCE.
THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.