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1 GOOD EVENING.

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2 MY NAME IS DAWN BITTAR AND I AM GOING TO CALL TO ORDER THE CITIZENS BUDGET

[CALL TO ORDER:]

3 ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

4 YVONNE WOULD YOU BE SO KIND TO PLEASE DO ROLL CALL.

5 DAWN BITTAR.

6 HERE.

7 AARON PARR.

8 HERE.

9 DAVID HERNANDEZ.

10 HERE.

11 ASHELEY HEPBURN.

12 JAMES BOOTHROYD.

13 HERE.

14 CHARLES RADLEY IS ABSENT.

15 TRACI HILDRETH IS ABSENT.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

16 I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FOR A REGULAR MEETING FOR APRIL 17 16TH 2019.

18 THIS IS AARON PARR I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR 19 MEETING 20 19 -04 FOR APRIL 16TH MEETING OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY 20 BOARD.

21 ALL IN FAVOR? 22 AYE.

23 ANY OPPOSED? 24 LET'S ADOPT THE MINUTES.

25 AYES HAVE IT.

26 WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA ITEMS ONLY AND I SEE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC

[PUBLIC COMMENTS: (Non-agenda items only)]

27 HERE WHO WANTS TO MAKE COMMENT.

28 MR. GAUME.

29 NON AGENDA.

30 EXCUSE ME I'M SORRY.

31 NON AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.

32 EXCUSE ME TOM.

33 THANK YOU MA'AM.

34 MADAM CHAIR.

35 MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

36 THOMAS GAUME.

37 1700 LANTANA COURT.

38 I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGETING PROCESS EARLY ON IN THIS 39 PROCESS PUBLIC WORKS IS WORKING ON A TEST OF SOME PIPELINE THAT WOULD WORK ON 40 MALABAR ROAD IF THE TEST SHOULD PROVE EFFECTIVE AND WE COULD FIX MALABAR ROAD.

41 PUBLIC WORKS HAS SAID THAT THAT WOULD COST ABOUT TWO MILLION DOLLARS TO FIX 42 THE PIPES UNDERNEATH MALABAR ROAD AND ABOUT ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS TO PAVE OVER 43 THE TOP.

44 SO WHAT I'D ASK AS WE GO INTO THE BUDGETING PROCESS IS THAT THREE MILLION 45 DOLLARS EARLY ON BE EARMARKED.

46 IF THE TEST FAILS IT COULD BE REDISTRIBUTED.

47 BUT IF THE TEST PROVES GOOD AND WE CAN FIX MALABAR ROAD THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE 48 SHOULD HEAD HEAD IN.

49 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

50 THANK YOU MR. GAUME.

51 ANYBODY ELSE.

52 ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR A NON AGENDA ITEMS. 53 WITH THAT WE WILL BEGIN WITH.

54 YES SIR.

55 I'M MATTHEW GIBSON 8 9 4 BIANCA DRIVE PALM BAY.

56 I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME HERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS 57 MEETING.

58 IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT MEETING AS OBVIOUSLY ALL OF YOU KNOW BECAUSE YOU SIT 59 HERE SO I'M LOOKING FOR YOU KNOW OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE CITY TO SIT ON SUCH A BOARD 60 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO TONIGHT'S ONGOING ACTIONS.

61 THANK YOU.

62 THANK YOU SIR.

63 AND IF I'M INCORRECT IN SUGGESTING I MEAN IF THAT IS YOUR INTEREST AT SOME POINT 64 THEN I WOULD REACH OUT TO YOUR INDIVIDUAL CITY COUNCIL FOLKS.

65 THANK YOU.

66 WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS AND I'LL BEGIN WITH THE RECOGNITION OF OUR

[NEW BUSINESS:]

67 NEW BOARD MEMBER MR. JAMES BOOTHROYD.

68 I WANT TO STATE ON A PERSONAL NOTE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

69 I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE.

70 WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF SIR.

71 I THINK YOU JUST INTRODUCED ME.

72 I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR WELCOMING ME AND I LOO FORWARD TO BEING INVOLVED 73 IN THIS BOARD HERE.

74 THANK YOU AGAIN.

75 OKAY.

76 MOVING ON.

77 WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATIONS AND I GUESS 78 WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEPARTMENT HEAD.

79 IF HE WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD.

80 THANK YOU ANDY ANDERSON.

81 WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE TO DO THIS FOR US ON A PERSONAL NOTE.

82 ANDY I REALLY APPRECIATE.

83 YOUR SHIRT LOOKS AWESOME.

84 YOU LOOK FABULOUS.

85 MY WIFE BOUGHT IT.

86 I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

87 TELL SABRINA WE SEND OUR BEST THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.

88 BOARD MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY WE'LL GO THROUGH A BRIEF 89 PRESENTATION REAL QUICK ABOUT OUR DEPARTMENT.

90 I'M ANDY ANDERSON DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EXTERNAL AFFAIRS THE 91 DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF TWO SEPARATE AND DISTINCT.

92 WELL NOT DISTINCT BUT TWO SEPARATE DIVISIONS IF YOU WOULD.

93 ONE IS THE ECONOMIC EXTERNAL AFFAIRS DIVISION AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE 94 BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

95 AND I THINK WE HAVE ONE OF THE MEMBERS FROM THAT AGENCY HERE AS WELL.

96 SO OUR CORE SERVICES INCLUDE BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND RETENTION.

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97 WE DO LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS WE WORK WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONERS STATE 98 REPRESENTATIVES STATE SENATORS FEDERAL LEVEL ELECTED OFFICIALS SUCH AS 99 CONGRESSMAN POSEY TO TRY TO MOVE THE DIRECTION OF LEGISLATION OR FUNDING THAT 100 BENEFITS THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

101 WE'RE THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE EXCESS PROPERTY SALES THE CITY EXCESS REAL 102 ESTATE WE MANAGE THE CONTRACT.

103 JUST AS A SIDE NOTE THROUGH SINCE FISCAL YEAR 16, THAT' GENERATED ABOUT 1.9 OR 104 ALMOST TWO MILLION DOLLARS IN REVENUE THAT GOES TO THE ROAD FUND AS DIRECTED BY 105 THE CITY COUNCIL.

106 WE DO THE INCENTIVE PROGRAMS THE ONE THAT WE USE MOST OFTEN.

107 WE JUST HAD AN INCENTIVE WORKSHOP.

108 I THINK THE ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS OUR AD VELOREM TAX ABATEMENT 109 PROGRAM.

110 WE ONLY HAVE TWO CURRENT BUSINESSES TAKING ADVANTAGE THAT HARRIS WHICH WILL FALL 111 OFF IN A YEAR OR TWO AND THEN PROJECT RAINBOW WHICH WAS JUST APPROVED LAST 112 CALENDAR YEAR AND WE SERVE AS LIAISON BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND REGULATORY 113 AGENCIES IF YOU KNOW WE RUN INTO SNAGS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE WITH 114 ST. JOHN'S OR CORPS.

115 WE TRY TO HELP THEM NAVIGATE THAT PROCESS AS WELL AS INTERNAL 116 DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS GROWTH MANAGEMENT LAND DEVELOPMENT.

117 WE WORK WITH THEM AND WE WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR MARKETING AND PROMOTION OF 118 THE CITY AS A BUSINESS DESTINATION TO TRY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES GO OUT 119 AND SHOWCASE WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT PALM BAY AND GIVE US POSITIVE MEDIA IN THE 120 BUSINESS ARENA.

121 THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT ENCOURAGES REDEVELOPMENT 122 AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHICH IS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF OUR 123 CITY.

124 THE MAIN GOAL IS ELIMINATE BLIGHT AND TRY TO INCREASE THE AD VELOREM TAX BASE OF 125 THAT DISTRICT THAT AGENCY AGAIN AS A LIAISON BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND REGULATORY 126 AGENCIES SO BUDGET PRIORITIES OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE ECONOMIC 127 DEVELOPMENT DIVISION IS ABOUT 555,000 DOLLARS INCLUDES FOUR FULL TIME 128 EMPLOYEES WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ME AN ASSISTANT AN COMMUNITY INFORMATION 129 COORDINATOR.

130 HOWEVER THERE'S A CAVEAT THAT WAS REASSIGNED THE COMMUNITY INFORMATION 131 FUNCTION IS NOT GOING TO GO UNDER THE CITY MANAGER AS ITS OWN STANDALONE 132 DEPARTMENT.

133 BUT WE PUT THIS TOGETHER.

134 THIS WAS OUR OUR CORE FUNCTION UP UNTIL APRIL 27 AND WE RE-EVALUATE 135 MARKETING RESOURCES AND BUSINESS INCENTIVE OFFERINGS WE'RE ALWAYS 136 LOOKING AT THOSE.

137 THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HAS AN OPERATING BUDGET OF EIGHT 138 HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS MOST OF THAT IF NOT ALMOST ALL IS ENTIRELY 139 DERIVED FROM TAX INCREMENTAL FINANCING WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

140 IT DOES NOT COME FROM GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.

141 THERE IS A DEBT SERVICE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW 474,000 DOLLARS AND WE'RE LOOKING TO 142 MODIFY THAT BOND REPAYMENT.

143 WE IN THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ONE FULL TIME EQUIVALEN AND ONE PART TIME POSITION 144 WHICH IS THE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

145 THEIR MAJOR FUNCTIONS ARE LAND ACQUISITION COMMERCIA COMMERCIAL FACADE 146 IMPROVEMENTS PARK IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS CASTAWAY POINT AND WE WANT 147 TO UPGRADE THAT MONUMENT SIGN OUT ON PORT MALABAR AND US1 AND MAKE IT THE 148 BAYFRONT MONUMENT SIGN BECAUSE THE CRA BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WILL 149 EVENTUALLY SUNSET.

150 SO WE WANT TO JUST SAY THE BAYFRONT AND MAKE THAT SIGN A LITTLE BIT NICER 151 THAN IT IS.

152 FORTUNATELY WE HAVE AN OSPREY THAT HAS DECIDED THAT'S THEIR HOME.

153 SO WE'RE HAVE A LOT OF REGULATORY STUFF WE HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR TRYING TO 154 IMPROVE THAT SIGNAGE.

155 THIS IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.

156 I WON'T GO THROUGH IT COMPLETELY.

157 IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT WE DID PUT THOSE IN RED BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE 158 TWO POSITIONS THAT HAVE TRANSITION TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

159 AS OF APRIL 27 AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

160 YES SIR.

161 JUST ONE QUESTION.

162

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163 BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADMINISTRATOR IS GONNA BRING 164 SOMETHING FORTH TO THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT BOARD TO 165 DIFFUSE THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

166 THE INTEREST RATE? 167 I DON'T HAVE JOHN DO YOU KNOW? 168 YVONNE DO YOU KNOW? 169 NO.

170 WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

171 172 WE CONCUR WITH THAT ALSO.

173 WHAT WAS IT.

174 4.1.

175 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

176 COMMENTS.

177 THANK YOU ANDY.

178 THANK YOU.

179 THANK YOU ANDY.

180 HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

181 OK.

182 NEXT IS THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HEAD AND PRESENTATION GREG MINOR.

183 RIGHT.

184 GREG MINOR? 185 YES MA'AM.

186 PLEASURE TO MEET YOU AGAIN SIR.

187 THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT HERE.

188 YES MA'AM.

189 MADAM CHAIR, BOARD.

190 DO A PRESENTATION ON WHAT FACILITIES DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY DOES.

191 SO NEXT SLIDE.

192 QUESTION IS YOU MAY ASK YOU KNOW WHAT IS FACILITIES AND WHAT DO WE DO.

193 HERE'S JUST A SAMPLE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT FACILITIES DOES.

194 WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OF ALL CITY FACILITIES WHICH 195 INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY TWO BUILDINGS ENCOMPASSING 285,000 SQUARE FEET OF 196 BUILDINGS MAINTAIN 118 HV AIR CONDITIONERS NUMEROUS WATER COOLERS, ICE 197 MACHINES.

198 WE DO IN-HOUSE CONSTRUCTION WE DO REMODELING.

199 WE OVERSEE ANY VENDORS DOING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE CITY.

200 SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT FACILITIES IS ACTUALLY 201 RESPONSIBLE FOR.

202 WANT TO TALK ABOUT A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT FACILITIES HAS DONE THIS 203 YEAR.

204 OBVIOUSLY IT'S A LARGE LIST.

205 ONE OF THE FEW ITEMS WE'RE REALLY REALLY PROUD OF.

206 I CAME ON BOARD IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR I'VE JUST BEEN HERE ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

207 BUT WHEN I CAME ON BOARD A NEW BUILDING WAS BEING BUILT FOR PUBLIC WORKS 208 APPROXIMATELY 3200 SQUARE FEET THAT BESIDES POURING THE CONCRETE AND BUILDING 209 THE EXTERIOR OUTBUILDINGS, OUR FOLKS DID EVERYTHING ELSE ALL THE AC ALL THE 210 TRIM WORK DRYWALL PLUMBING TRIM OUT YOU NAME IT WE DID IT.

211 SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG PROUDEST ACCOMPLISHMENTS WE HAD HAD THIS YEAR.

212 AND NEXT THING IS THE OVERSIGHT OF THE HONEYWELL THE ENERGY SAVINGS PROGRAM 213 THAT CITI ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WHICH OVER A PERIOD OF 20 YEARS THERE WOULD BE 214 HUGE POTENTIAL SAVINGS AND ENERGY COSTS WATER COSTS UTILITIES.

215 SO AS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A LIST I WON'T GO OVER ALL THAT AND THAT 216 THOSE ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS THAT WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF 217 OVERSEEING AND BEING INVOLVED IN.

218 MY BUDGET PRIORITIES.

219 WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A PROJECT THAT HAD BEEN DELAYED BUT WE'RE GETTING 220 READY TO GET KICKED OFF TO HALON SYSTEM FOR THE I.T.

221 SERVER ROOM OVER AT PD.

222 WE'RE REQUESTING IN THIS BUDGET ANOTHER PLUMBER AND MAINTENANCE TO STAFF.

223 AND WHEN I GO OVER MY ORG CHART I'LL SHOW YOU THE NEED FOR THAT.

224 WE WANT TO DO SOME INTERIOR RENOVATIONS IN THIS COUNCI CHAMBERS.

225 SO A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED SOME CODE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE BROUGHT UP AND 226 REPLACE TWO GENERATORS OR A GENERATOR FOR FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO.

227 HERE'S A I HAVE A WORKING BUDGET A LITTLE ALMOST 2.7 MILLION DOLLARS AND HERE'S A

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228 BREAKDOWN OF WHERE THE MONEY GOES.

229 WHAT MONEYS ALLOCATED FOR PERSONNEL COSTS AND WHAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR 230 ACTUAL MAINTENANCE PAYING THE BILLS ETC. I'M CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED 231 16 FULL TIME POSITIONS AND 2 PART TIME POSITIONS AND I'M FORTUNATE AND I HAVE 232 ZERO VACANT POSITIONS AT THE MOMENT HERE IS A BREAKDOWN OF HOW THE 233 FACILITIES DEPARTMENT PUT TOGETHER.

234 I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH I'M AMAZED EVERY DAY THE SKILL SET OF THE WORK THAT THE 235 GENTLEMEN IN MY DEPARTMENT DO BUT WE CURRENTLY ONLY HAVE ONE PLUMBING POSITION 236 WE'RE REQUESTED TO HAVE ANOTHER PLUMBING POSITION IN THE NEW BUDGET AS 237 BUILDINGS AGE YOU KNOW.

238 BUILDINGS GET OLDER.

239 YOU TRY TO MAINTAIN THEM AND WE'VE HAD PRETTY MUCH BEEN OVERWHELMED WITH JUST 240 HAVING ONE PLUMBER AND MAINTENANCE TO GENERAL MAINTENANCE WORKERS.

241 THERE'S ALWAYS PLENTY OF WORK FOR HE OR SHE TO DO.

242 SO I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT 243 FACILITIES GUYS AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'LL TRY TO ANSWER FOR YOU.

244 WELL WITH THAT WONDERFUL MAGICAL ENDING.

245 IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ASK THIS NICE 246 GENTLEMAN ANY QUESTIONS.

247 GREG.

248 YES SIR.

249 WHEN WAS THE LAST FACILITY STUDY DONE.

250 251 I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER.

252 I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT.

253 I WOULD ASSUME PART OF THE STUDY WAS DONE WHEN BEFORE THE HONEYWELL ENERGY 254 SAVINGS PROGRAM KICKED IN.

255 THERE ARE CERTAIN FACILITIES AND CERTAIN STRUCTURES WHETHER IT WAS ENERGY 256 SAVINGS HV/AC WHICH IS YOUR YOUR AC AND YOUR YOUR WATER.

257 WE CHANGED A LOT OF TOILET FIXTURES AND STUFF PUT WATER SAVING DEVICES.

258 SO I WOULD SAY THAT THERE WAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF STUDY BECAUSE JUST LIKE WE DID 259 WITH THE COUNTY AND I BELIEVE YOU WERE THERE AT THE COUNTY ACTUALLY WHEN WE 260 HAD CON EDISON DO THEY COME IN AND DO A A STUDY AND IT BREAKS DOWN WHERE YOU WOULD 261 HAVE YOUR LARGEST ENERGY SAVINGS BASED ON CHANGING THING.

262 BUT I DON'T HAVE A FIRM ANSWER BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET IT FOR YOU.

263 THE REASON WHY I ASK.

264 I MEAN YOU HAVE A MIX OF AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND NE INFRASTRUCTURE.

265 YES SIR.

266 NEW INFRASTRUCTURE USUALLY HAS A LOWER OPERATING COSTS.

267 THE OLDER INFRASTRUCTURE HAS A HIGHER OPERATING COSTS.

268 AND IF WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE FROM YEAR TO YEAR IN OUR BUDGET AND KNOW WHAT THOSE 269 CHALLENGES ARE FROM THE HV/AC JUST ELEVATORS TO FAILURES OF ROOFS ETC YOU 270 CAN PRIORITIZE AND KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE.

271 SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A STUDY AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ONE IN WHILE BEYOND WHAT WE DID 272 WITH HONEYWELL WHICH IS SOLELY ENERGY FACILITY STUDY LOOKS AT ALL OF YOUR 273 COMPONENT IN THE BUILDING AND IDENTIFIES WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE.

274 I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO HAVE THAT AS A BUDGET PRIORITY BEING THAT YOU'RE 275 NEW.

276 A YEAR OUT.

277 IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND OUTSIDE WHAT THE OBVIOUS 278 PROBLEMS ARE WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE SO YOU CAN PRIORITIZE THAT IN YOUR 279 BUDGET.

280 YES.

281 THANK YOU.

282 ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING.

283 I THINK THAT I THINK THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING IDEA ACTUALLY.

284 THANK YOU GREG.

285 THANK YOU.

286 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME SIR.

287 YES MA'AM.

288 NICE MEETING YOU.

289 NICE MEETING YOU.

290 NEXT WE HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

291 GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

292 MY NAME IS NELSON MOYA.

293 I AM THE INTERIM POLICE CHIEF FOR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

294 SO REAL QUICKLY BEHIND ME ARE THE TWO LADIES THAT ARE INTEGRAL IN OUR BUDGET 295 PROCESS THAT DESERVE RECOGNITION.

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296 THIS IS OUR BUDGET OFFICER SANDY [INAUDIBLE] AND PROJECT SPECIALIST JESSICA 297 [INAUDIBLE].

298 WITHOUT THEM THIS PRESENTATION AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES BEHIND 299 IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE.

300 SO THAT NEEDS TO BE FIRST AND FOREMOST BUT I NEED TO POINT OUT.

301 THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT.

302 THANK YOU.

303 HOW DO I CHANGE.

304 GOTCHA.

305 SO TONIGHT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE SO 306 YOU UNDERSTAND GOING INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE THE REASONS THAT WE ARE 307 PRIORITIZING THE THINGS THAT WE PRIORITIZE.

308 OK.

309 FIRST AND FOREMOST OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE AS YOU CAN SEE IS LED BY AN 310 EXECUTIVE OFFICER THE CHIEF POLICE UNDER HIM IS MY POSITION AS DEPUTY POLICE 311 CHIEF.

312 AND UNDER THAT ARE FOUR DIVISIONS THAT ENCOMPASS EVERY ASPECT OF OUR 313 ORGANIZATION THAT INCLUDES OUR SWORN SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND OUR CIVILIAN SUPPORT 314 SERVICES SIDE OF THE HOUSE THOSE FOUR DIVISIONS ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE AGENCY 315 WHICH IS PATROL OPERATIONS INVESTIGATIONS SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND SUPPORT 316 SERVICES UNDER EACH ONE OF THOSE DIVISIONS ARE BOTH MANAGERS COMMANDERS AND 317 CIVILIAN MANAGERS AS WELL.

318 SO BY STANDARDS NATIONAL STANDARDS WE ARE A LARGE ORGANIZATION.

319 SO WE'RE 166 SWORN OFFICERS IN TOTAL WITH OUR CIVILIAN STAFF AND OUR PART 320 TIME STAFF WE'RE 273 STRONG.

321 NOW HAVING SAID THAT SOME OF YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THAT GIVEN THE SIZE OF OUR 322 CITY AND OUR GROWING POPULATION HISTORICALLY WE HAVE BEEN SHORT STAFFED AND 323 THAT HAS CREATED A UNIQUE CHALLENGE IN OUR CITY.

324 BUT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO OVERCOME THROUGH SOME CREATIVE RESOURCE 325 ALLOCATION AND IT CONTINUES TO TODAY.

326 SO I'M GOING TO BRING UP THIS NEXT SLIDE AND I'LL LEAVE IT UP THERE JUST AS A 327 MATTER OF REFERENCE AND I'LL SPEAK TO IT.

328 SO YOU HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE'R COMING FROM.

329 SO IN TERMS OF OFFICER PER POPULATION RATIO THERE ARE VARYING FORMULAS THAT YOU 330 SEE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

331 THERE IS NOT ONE THAT IS THE EXACT ONE TO FOLLOW.

332 IT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF EACH COMMUNITY.

333 AND THE BREAKDOWN OF POPULATION DEMOGRAPHIC OF EACH COMMUNITY.

334 BUT.

335 WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND THIS IS A A LIVING DOCUMENT.

336 OUR PERSONNEL STUDY IS A LIVING BREATHING DOCUMENT THAT WE ADJUST FROM YEAR TO 337 YEAR AS YOU CAN SEE IN TERMS OF OFFICER PER THOUSAND, WE ARE 338 COMPARATIVELY TO COMMUNITIES THAT ARE RELATIVELY SIMILAR TO OUR 339 SIZE AND POPULATION.

340 WE CURRENTLY STAND AT 1.40 RATIO 1.44 IS OUR CURRENT PER 1000.

341 THAT IS AT THE LOW END OF THE SPECTRUM AS YOU CAN SEE THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT WE'VE 342 LISTED THERE VARY FROM 2.57 DOWN TO 1.79.

343 AND AGAIN THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD BE AT 2.57 IT'S JUST A MATTER OF 344 REFERENCE TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

345 OK.

346 NOW THANKFULLY LAST YEAR WE WERE AWARDED SIX POSITIONS.

347 AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW BASED ON WHAT WHAT I CALL 348 OUR PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE MOVING FORWARD THE NEEDS THAT THE 349 CITY HAS AND THOSE NEEDS ARE FLEXIBLE AND THEY CHANGE.

350 LAST YEAR WE HAD A RISE IN THE OPIATE ISSUE THE OPIATE EPIDEMIC THAT YOU'VE HEARD 351 SO HAS HIT OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.

352 SO WE HAD TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THAT PARTICULAR PROBLEM.

353 AND PART OF THAT STAFFING WENT TOWARDS OUR SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS SLASH 354 NARCOTICS UNIT.

355 TWO OF THOSE WENT TO PATROL.

356 NOW IN MOVING FORWARD INTO THIS YEAR UNFORTUNATELY AND IT IS THE BEGINNING OF THIS 357 FISCAL YEAR THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN.

358 SO ON OR ABOUT OCTOBER NOVEMBER OF INCLUDING DECEMBER WE HAD A RISE IN 359 VIOLENT CRIME.

360 AGAIN UNFORTUNATELY FUNDAMENTALLY BASED ON DRUG RELATED ISSUES WE HAD AN 361 UPTICK IN HOMICIDES ALL OF WHICH WERE DRUG RELATED.

362 NOW THAT CREATED YET ANOTHER NEED FOR US TO LOOK CREATIVELY TO ADDRESS THAT 363 SO THAT WE CAN PUT A CAP ON IT.

364 SO WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING UNIQUE AND WHAT WE EMPLOYED WAS A UNIT CALLED CRIME 365 SUPPRESSION UNIT.

366 NOW IT'S A UNIT THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO 367 DISBAND BECAUSE THERE WAS A NEED ELSEWHERE.

368 SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN.

369 IT'S CYCLICAL AND NOW WE ARE STAFFING THIS UNIT IT AGAIN.

370 BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO DO THAT WE HAD TO TAKE FROM OTHER UNITS TO ACCOMPLISH 371 THIS MISSION.

372 SO WE TOOK FROM PATROL UNFORTUNATELY WHICH IS LIKE I SAID THE BACKBONE.

373 AND WE ALSO TOOK ABOUT 40 PERCENT OF THE GENERAL CRIMES DETECTIVE UNIT WHICH 374 TAKES CARE OF OUR BURGLARIES THEFTS AND OTHER PROPERTY RELATED CRIMES.

375 SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU TAKE FROM ONE TO FEED ANOTHER AND IT LEAVES A VOID.

376 BUT HERE'S THE RESULTS OF THIS CRIME SUPPRESSION UNIT SINCE THEIR INCEPTION.

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377 WE'VE HAD NO HOMICIDES.

378 NOW THERE ARE MANY VARIABLES THAT GO INTO IT AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT 379 IT'S STRICTLY BASED ON THIS UNIT.

380 BUT CERTAINLY THE WORK THAT THIS UNIT HAS DONE TO FOCUS ON THE ABSOLUTE RECIDIVIST 381 DRUG GUN TOTING CRIMINALS WHICH IS WHAT THAT UNIT FOCUSES ON IS CLEARLY WHAT 382 HAS RESULTED IN SOME DECREASE IN OUR VIOLENT CRIME.

383 IN FACT UCR FOR THE FIRST QUARTER THE UNIFORM CRIME REPORT THAT WE REPORT TO 384 THE FBI THIS YEAR THE FIRST THREE MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE MONTH OF APRIL THERE'S 385 A TWENTY THREE PERCENT DECREASE IN VIOLENT CRIME.

386 SO WE KNOW THAT IF WE PUT OUR RESOURCES WHERE THEY'R NEEDED WE'RE GOING TO GET 387 THOSE RESULTS.

388 NOW THAT LEADS INTO OUR PRIORITIES FOR THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT IS OUR BELIEF 389 THAT THAT EFFORT MUST CONTINUE.

390 NOW THAT EFFORT HAS TO BE STAFFED.

391 AND AS I TOLD YOU WE'VE SAID AT THE LOWER END OF TH SPECTRUM IN TERMS OF OUR 392 STAFFING GIVEN OUR POPULATION.

393 SO HERE'S WHAT WE PROJECT.

394 SO ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR WE COME TO THE TABLE ASKING FOR 12 FULL TIME OFFICER 395 POSITIONS.

396 OUT OF THOSE TWELVE, SPEAKING OF THE UNIT THAT I JUST TOLD YOU THAT WE 397 CREATED ON A TEMPORARY BASIS WE NOW ARE ASKING THAT FIVE OF THOSE ARE AWARDED AS A 398 PERMANENT ALLOCATION OF THIS CRIME SUPPRESSION UNIT.

399 THAT'S FOUR OFFICERS AND ONE SERGEANT.

400 THE FIGURES AS YOU CAN SEE FOR THE TWELVE OFFICERS AR 1.2 WITH A REOCCURRING FOR 401 THE UNIT THAT I'M TELLING YOU ABOUT PERFORMED 62,000.

402 IN ADDITION TO UPTICK OUR PATROL STAFFING WHICH CONTINUES TO BE HURTING 403 IS SEVEN UNIFORMED PATROL OFFICERS WE ARE IN DISCUSSION TO SEE IF ONE OF 404 THOSE WE CAN PROBABLY WE WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE TOWARDS OUR INVESTIGATIVE 405 UNIT TO INVESTIGATE SOME OF THOSE CASES THAT I TOLD YOU WHEN THEY COME IN BECAUSE 406 WHEN THEY COME IN ALL HANDS ON DECK HAND IT REALLY DRAINS THEIR RESOURCES.

407 SO WE KNOW THERE'S A NEED THERE AS THERE IS A NEED ELSEWHERE.

408 SO OUR PRIORITY IS TWELVE POSITIONS FIVE FOR CRIME SUPPRESSION AND SEVEN FOR 409 UNIFORMED SERVICES.

410 AND THOSE COSTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED ARE LISTED AS YOU CAN SEE.

411 WHAT'S IMPORTANT ALSO GIVEN OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE ESTABLISH WITHIN OUR POLICE 412 DEPARTMENT OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO CALLS FOR SERVICE 413 PARTICULARLY THE ONES THAT OUR EMERGENCY PRIORITY TWO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

414 THOSE ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE WHERE THERE IS LIFE IN JEOPARDY THE NATIONAL 415 AVERAGE.

416 LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 5 MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.

417 TODAY OUR POLICE PERMIT IS AT 10 MINUTES.

418 WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE IN THAT AREA.

419 BUT GIVEN THE SIZE OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR STAFFING LEVEL THAT IS A NUMBER THAT 420 WE WORK WITH TODAY.

421 OUR GOAL FOR THE MID YEAR BUDGET THIS YEAR WAS TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT BY I BELIEVE 422 15 SECONDS.

423 WE HAVEN'T MET THAT AND WE'VE TRIED.

424 SO WE KNOW THAT WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE IT'S CRITICAL FOR US TO GET THE 425 CALLS A LOT QUICKER THAN WE'RE DOING NOW.

426 FIVE MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS IS THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

427 OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH MELBOURNE IS WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME.

428 NOW MIND YOU THEY ARE A LOT SMALLER THAN WE ARE.

429 THE POPULATION IS A LOT SMALLER BUT THAT'S JUST A REFERENCE AS TO WHERE WE 430 SIT TODAY.

431 THAT IS OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO OUR FOLK WHEN THEY CALL THE POLICE 432 SO WE CAN GET THERE IN A LOT BETTER TIME IN 10 MINUTES.

433 WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT END.

434 SO IN ADDITION AS YOU ALL KNOW WE WILL AGAIN EXPERIENCE SOME PRETTY GOOD 435 GROWTH AND WE'VE PROJECTED ADDITIONAL GROWTH.

436 THE INTERSECTION THAT IS ALMOST COMPLETE NOW AT THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY THE 437 NEW INTERCHANGE WE KNOW WILL YIELD THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL POLICE SERVICES.

438 THOSE RESOURCES MAY ENCOMPASS THINGS LIKE PROPERTY CRIMES MAYBE 439 PERSONS CRIMES AND THE GENERAL NEED TO BE VISIBLE TO PATROL THOSE AREAS.

440 FOR THOSE NEW RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES THAT WILL SOON BE IN PLACE.

441 I SEE THAT AS A FOOTPRINT AS OUR AS OUR PUBLIC SAFET INFRASTRUCTURE FOOTPRINT 442 THAT WE MUST PREPARE FOR BEFORE WE ARE AT A POINT I TIME WHERE IT IS CRITICAL.

443 AND NOW WE'RE PLAYING CATCH UP TO THE CATCH UP ADDITIONAL BUDGET 444 PRIORITIES.

445 THESE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE HAVE CAPTURED ALONG THE WAY LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE 446 AWARDED OUR TWO ADDITIONAL NARCOTICS POSITIONS.

447 WE SAW THAT THERE WERE SOME RAISES IN THE CONTRACTS FOR LEASE VEHICLES.

448 THESE LEASED VEHICLES OUR UNDERCOVER OFFICERS DRIVE.

449 SO THEY OPERATE AND ON THE UNDESCRIPT NON POLICE LOOKING CAR SO THAT THEY CAN

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450 DO THAT FUNCTION AS YOU AS YOU KNOW THE FUNCTION OF UNDERCOVER DRUG OPERATIONS 451 WHICH IS CRITICAL RIGHT NOW IN OUR CITY.

452 THAT AMOUNTS TO FIFTY THREE HUNDRED.

453 OUR DETAILS IS A SOFTWARE THAT MANAGES OR HELPS US TO MANAGE THE MANY SPECIAL DUTY 454 FUNCTIONS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO ATTEND.

455 FOR EXAMPLE OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT YOU SEE POLICE PRESENCE BUDGET 456 WORKSHOPS OTHER FUNCTIONS THAT REQUIRE POLICE PRESENC COST MONEY.

457 THIS SOFTWARE HELPS US TO MANAGE THAT BECAUSE OF OUR MANY EMPLOYEES IT'S VERY 458 DIFFICULT TO DO IT OTHERWISE WITHOUT THE SOFTWARE.

459 NOW THAT IS A REVENUE SOURCE SO THERE ARE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT 460 PAYS FOR THAT AND THEN SOME.

461 BUT THAT REVENUE GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

462 AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO RECAPTURE THE COST OF ADMINISTERING THAT PROGRAM 463 WITHIN A LINE ITEM.

464 IN ADDITION SWAT VESTS AND GEAR.

465 HISTORICALLY WE'VE HAD TO LOOK WITHIN OUR BUDGETS TO FIND THE NEED TO REPLACE 466 SWAT VESTS AS AN EXAMPLE.

467 SWAT VESTS HAVE A SHELF LIFE LIKE MANY OTHER THINGS.

468 AND POLICE EQUIPMENT THESE PARTICULAR VESTS THAT YOU SEE THESE ARE THE HEAVY 469 VESTS THAT YOU SEE GUYS GOING THROUGH DO SEARCH WARRANTS OR OR BARRICADED 470 INCIDENTS FOR THEM TO GO IN SAFELY.

471 THESE ARE HEAVY VESTS THAT HAVE A SHELF LIFE OF FIVE YEARS.

472 WELL THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT A RECURRING COSTS THAT IN 473 PAST WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CAPTURE AS A LINE ITEM THIS YEAR WE'RE ASKING FOR 474 THAT TO BE A LINE ITEM THAT WILL SUBSEQUENTLY BE A RECURRENT COST TO THE TUNE 475 OF TWELVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.

476 LASTLY POLICE VEHICLES IT'S BEEN A BIG THING FOR US.

477 YOU'VE HEARD IT AT OTHER MEETINGS COUNCIL MEETINGS.

478 IT IS A PRIORITY OF OURS.

479 IT IS THE OFFICE THAT OUR PEOPLE USE TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

480 IT'S HOW THEY DO THEIR BUSINESS HOW THEY SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

481 AND HISTORICALLY WE'VE NEVER HAD A PATROL CAR REPLACEMENT PLAN ALBEIT AS 482 A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR A LINE ITEM.

483 IT HAS NEVER BEEN THE CASE.

484 SO FROM YEAR TO YEAR WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO CREATIVELY FIND MONEY TO 485 ALLOCATE THESE CARS.

486 NOW IN YEARS PAST WE'VE BEEN LUCKY BECAUSE WE'VE HA SOME SEIZURE MONEY COME 487 BACK OUR WAY.

488 WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE IT FOR SOME OF THAT.

489 BUT THE NEED IS OUTGROWING THE INCOME AND WE FIND OURSELVES IN IT IN A LITTLE 490 BIT OF A QUANDARY.

491 JUST THIS WEEK ALONE I HEARD THAT OUR OWN FLEET SERVICES IS SAYING THAT WE 492 NEED 80 PLUS CARS.

493 WELL THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD.

494 SO IN LOOKING AT OUR ABSOLUTE NEED AND GIVEN USE OF MEDICAL 495 BUDGETING AND PROPOSALS WOULD COME TO THE TABLE WITH 23 CARS WHICH IS THE COST 496 THAT YOU SEE ASSOCIATED HERE.

497 OUT OF 23 CARS THERE'S 16 MARKED PATROL CARS ONE MARKED CAR FOR 498 SERGEANT AND SIX UNMARKED CARS THAT ARE DRIVEN BY OUR DETECTIVES ALBEIT GENERAL 499 CRIMES OR MAJOR CASE DETECTORS ALL ASSOCIATED COSTS TO THE TUNE OF 500 624,000 DOLLARS.

501 THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITIES COMING INTO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET IN TERMS OF OUR 502 REVENUE SOURCES.

503 WE HAVE TWO PREDOMINANT SOURCES.

504 NUMBER ONE IS THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND LETF.

505 LETF IS MADE UP OF TWO SEPARATE SOURCES OF INCOME.

506 NUMBER ONE FEDERAL MONEYS THAT ARE SEIZED UNDER FEDERAL ASSETS AND LOCAL 507 THAT ARE SEIZED THROUGH OUR OUR OWN STATE STATUTES HERE.

508 CURRENTLY THE FUND BALANCE FOR THAT FEDERAL IS JUST OVER 16,000 AND LOCAL IS 509 111,000.

510 BUT THERE'S RESTRICTIONS TO THAT.

511 SO I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT THAT WE CAN BUY POLICE CARS FROM THAT EVERY YEAR 512 AND WE CANNOT.

513 LETF HAS SOME RESTRICTIONS THAT ONLY ALLOWS ONE TIME COME TO COME TO THIS WELL 514 ONE TIME AND DON'T COME AT US AGAIN WITH THIS REQUEST.

515 THE EXCEPTION TO THAT IS THE FEDERAL MONEY.

516 BUT CURRENTLY A FUND BALANCE FOR THAT FEDERAL BUDGET.

517 I JUST TOLD YOU IT'S JUST SIXTEEN THOUSAND SO AN ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES ARE 518 ANOTHER SOURCE OF REVENUE NOW THE IMPACT FEE ISSUE AS YOU KNOW IS BEING LOOKED AT 519 AND IT'S A PROCESS IT WILL GO TO BEFORE COUNCIL IN SOME SHORT TIME BUT UNDER 520 OUR CURRENT SETUP WE ONLY HAVE EIGHTY THOUSAND DOLLAR OF IMPACT FEES OF WHICH WE 521 CAN ONLY SPEND IT FOR PROJECTED GROWTH.

522 SO WE HAVE SOME PROJECTED EXPENDITURES AND IT'LL BE CARS.

523 IT WILL BE DEPENDING ON WHETHER THE BUDGET IS APPROVED WHETHER OUR OUR 524 PRIORITIES ARE ACKNOWLEDGING APPROVED THEN WE CAN SPEND THAT MONEY FOR 525 CARS OTHERWISE WE CAN'T OUR TOTAL BUDGET CURRENTLY IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL SERVICES 526 SALARIES IS JUST OVER 20 MILLION.

527 OUR OPERATING COSTS ARE JUST OVER 1.1.

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528 SO I HOPE THAT I'VE PAINTED A PICTURE OF WHAT OUR OUR STAFFING ISSUE IS THE FACT 529 THAT WE WILL OVERCOME ANY SHORTAGE WE WILL STILL SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

530 WE WILL STILL GET THE JOB DONE BUT WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND 531 PRESENT TO YOU WHAT WILL HELP US MOVE ALONG IN THE FUTURE.

532 ANY QUESTIONS? 533 ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

534 AS FAR AS THE CARS GO WHAT IS THE USEFUL LIFE OF THE AVERAGE PATROL CAR.

535 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP COMMANDER ZANDER BECAUSE 536 THERE ARE MANY VARIABLES.

537 IN FACT THERE'S A POINT SYSTEM THAT OUR FLEET SERVICES USES TO DETERMINE 538 THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF A CAR.

539 SOME OF THAT IS MILEAGE.

540 SOME OF THAT IS WEARING TEAR.

541 WHAT AM I MISSING.

542 MAY I ASK A QUESTION.

543 SURE.

544 THE CONDITIONS OF OUR ROADS DOES THIS PLAY A ROLE IN TH CONDITION OF OUR VEHICLES 545 AND THEIR LONGEVITY.

546 YES.

547 YES.

548 THANK YOU.

549 WELCOME.

550 AND THE IMPROVEMENT OF ROADS WOULD ALSO IMPROVE THE RESPONSE TIME.

551 CORRECT.

552 OF COURSE.

553 YEAH.

554 WE CAN CORRELATE YOU KNOW HEALTHY ROADS TO CARS ANY DAY.

555 BUT WITHOUT CARS WITHOUT THOSE CAR WE CAN'T GET ON THE ROADS TO BEGIN WITH.

556 THANK YOU.

557 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 558 I KNOW YOU STILL HAD A QUESTION.

559 YES.

560 I'M SORRY.

561 SIR DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR DID YOU NEED MORE SPECIFICS? 562 NO.

563 I JUST JUST KIND OF A GENERAL.

564 565 FLEET HAS A POINT SYSTEM THAT THEY PUT THEM ALL IN AND WHAT AFFECTS THOSE 566 POINTS ARE THE MILEAGE THE AGE THE COSTS OF THE MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE 567 THAT.

568 SO AS SOON AS THEY REACH 15 POINTS FLEET DEEMS THEM AS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE 569 REPLACED IN AND IS UNSAFE.

570 CURRENTLY WE HAVE EIGHTY SIX ON THE ROAD TODAY THAT ARE THAT ARE LIKE THAT AND THEN 571 WE HAVE SEVEN MORE WHO ARE ABOUT 14.75 POINTS.

572 SO THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE VERGE OF MEETING THAT THAT THRESHOLD AS WELL.

573 SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ROUGHLY ANYWHERE FROM FROM 80 TO 95 CARS THAT ARE THAT ARE 574 IN A SHAPE OF OF OLD AGE.

575 BUT THE MAINTENANCE ON THEM IS THROUGH THE ROOF AND THEY JUST LOOK REALLY BAD.

576 THEY LOOK REALLY BAD.

577 THANK YOU.

578 I REMEMBER I REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR THIS BOARD I KNOW WE WERE GIVEN 579 SOME INFORMATION ABOUT A VAST BUT VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF OUR FLEET WAS 580 PAST LIFE EXPECTANCY.

581 I'M SORRY.

582 AND THAT'S SOMETHING DEFINITELY WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WITH COMBATING 583 THIS ISSUE ABOUT VEHICLES BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY NEWER VEHICLES NEWER FLEET 584 DECREASED MAINTENANCE DECREASED DECREASED TIME OFF THE ROAD.

585 EVERYTHING ELSE IS BENEFITING BY THAT.

586 BUT I UNDERSTAND IT COSTS MONEY.

587 ONE IDEA I WANTED TO PUT OUT THERE FLOAT IS ASK HAV WE LOOKED AT THE POTENTIAL 588 OF LEASING POLICE VEHICLES AND WONDERING HAVE WE LOOKED AT A COST BENEFITS 589 TYPE ANALYSIS WITH THAT IDEA.

590 I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS HERE WITH ME TONIGHT BUT YES WE'VE LOOKED AT LEASING 591 THEM AT FINANCING THEM PUTTING IT OFF FOR FIVE YEARS.

592 WE LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

593 AND IN THE END YOU'RE PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT WHETHER IF YOU'RE PAYING IT 594 THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR AFTER YOU'RE GOING TO END UP PAYING THE SAME 595 AMOUNT.

596 SO WE CAME UP WITH A PLAN WHERE WE WOULD HAVE 30 CARS A YEAR AND THAT WOULD 597 EVENTUALLY OUR ENTIRE FLEET WOULD BE TURNED OVER IN FIVE TO SIX YEARS.

598 AND THAT WOULD BE A ROUGHLY 30 CARS A YEAR AT ABOUT 895,000 DOLLARS A YEAR.

599 SO IT'S A HEFTY IT'S A HEFTY AMOUNT BUT THERE'S JUST NOT THERE'S NO 600 SHORTCUT.

601 THERE REALLY IS NO SHORTCUT.

602 I MEAN WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CARS TO GET TO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND TO REDUCE THE 603 TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT TAKES US TO GET THERE BUT WE HAVE CARS THAT BREAK 604 DOWN IN BRIEFING WE HAVE CARS THAT BREAK DOWN ON THE WAY TO CALLS WE HAVE CARS 605 THAT BREAK DOWN ON CALLS.

606 SO IT'S IT'S IT'S GETTING TO A SITUATION WHERE IT'S GETTING PRETTY CRITICAL FOR 607 US.

608 WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO ESTIMATE A NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT ARE DOWN AT 609 ANY GIVEN MOMENT OF THE FLEET THAT YOU GUYS ARE USING.

610 YOU KNOW IT'S HARD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE POOL CARS WE HAV ON OUR POOL CARS DOWN AT 611 FLEET ARE THESE ARE CARS THAT WHEN SOMEONE'S CAR BREAKS DOWN IT'S TAKEN TO 612 FLEET AND THEN AN OFFICER HAS TO GET A POOL CAR AND USE THAT FOR THE NIGHT OR 613 TWO NIGHTS OR THREE NIGHTS.

614 THOSE CARS ARE 2004'S WITH ABOUT 185,000 MILES ON THEM.

615 AND WE HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THESE CARS BECAUSE WHAT WE FORGET IS THESE CARS ARE 616 THE BILLBOARD FOR OUR CITY.

617 NO IT'S IS PALM BAY THE CITY OF PAL BAY ON IT.

618 AND WHEN THAT CAR IS OUT DRIVING AROUND WHEN THOSE CARS ARE OUT 619 DRIVING AROUND IT'S A IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH SOMETIMES BUT SO THOSE CARS ARE

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620 CONSTANTLY BEING USED NOW TO YOU KNOW FIVE SIX SEVEN YEARS AGO THEY WEREN'T BEING 621 USED BECAUSE OUR FLEET WASN'T QUITE AS OLD BUT NO THOSE CARS ARE ANYTIME YOU 622 PUT ON A FLEET THOSE FOUR POOL CARS ARE GONE.

623 THEY'RE BEING USED NIGHTLY.

624 SO AS FAR AS HOW OFTEN I CAN JUST SAY THAT THOSE CARS THOSE THOSE POOL CARS ARE 625 BEING USED ALMOST EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.

626 LAST THING I JUST WANTED.

627 I THINK YOU HAD SAID AROUND 70 SOMETHING VEHICLES ARE PAST LIFE EXPECTANCY.

628 86 CURRENTLY TODAY AND THEN THE POSSIBILITY OF ABOUT SEVEN MORE ANYTIME.

629 APPROXIMATELY AND JUST OFF TOP OF MY HEAD DOING SOME ROUGH MATH WHERE ABOUT 630 60 PERCENT ON THE VERGE OF BEING PASSED LIFE AT THIS MOMENT.

631 THAT IS CORRECT.

632 AND SOME OF THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW IS IS FLEET AND 633 MIKE [INAUDIBLE] ARE DOING A GREAT JOB DOWN THERE WE'RE TRYING TO REORGANIZE 634 THINGS AND GET THINGS GOING.

635 AND THEY'RE REALLY EXPERIENCING THIS ONE ON THEIR SIDE.

636 SO WHEN A CAR COMES IN FOR MAINTENANCE THEY'RE SAYING THIS CAR I GOT TO CONDEMN 637 THIS CAR.

638 I GOT TO TAKE IT OFF THE ROAD.

639 AND WE'RE SAYING WE CAN'T CONDEMN THAT CAR.

640 I NEED THAT CAR TO [INAUDIBLE].

641 SO THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE CRITICAL NESS OF THIS OF THIS.

642 I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE CARS.

643 I SEE NOW YOU MOSTLY HAVE CHARGES AS FAR AS POLICE CARS IN THE [INAUDIBLE] 644 HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE MAINTENANCE AND AND THE COST OF OTHER DIFFERENT CARS 645 AND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY AS FAR AS ISSUES IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS OR OTHER POLICE 646 DEPARTMENTS USE DIFFERENT VEHICLES AND WHAT MAY EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY COST US MORE 647 INITIALLY MIGHT LAST LONGER OR BE LESS.

648 CHARGERS ARE ACTUALLY THE LEAST AMOUNT.

649 WE USED TO HAVE THE IMPALAS THOSE PRICES ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE YOU'RE LOOKING AT 650 ROUGHLY ABOUT TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND DOLLARS PER CAR THAT'S THE CAR ALONE.

651 THE CHARGERS ARE TWENTY TWO THOUSAND.

652 SO THAT'S THE CHEAPEST POLICE CAR OUT THERE THAT' AVAILABLE TODAY.

653 THE IMPALAS THE SUVS A LOT OF AGENCIES THEY'RE GOING TO SUV.

654 THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE JUST TOO CRAZY THAT THEY'RE JUST TOO EXPENSIVE.

655 AND SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE EVEN LOOKED AT.

656 BUT PRIMARILY THE IMPALAS AND THE CHARGERS THAT ARE THE TWO PRIMARY CARS BEING 657 USED TODAY.

658 BUT WHAT ABOUT RELIABILITY AS FAR AS THE CHARGERS GO I THE OTHER.

659 YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD CHARGES NOW SINCE 2014.

660 AND I'M I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AS FAR AS HOW MANY CARS HAVE BEEN DOWN OR 661 THINGS LIKE THAT.

662 I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVEN'T NOTICED A PEAK PER SAY IN SOMETHING GOING DOWN A LOT.

663 SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE WITH THE CHARGERS GOING DOWN ON 664 US ON THIS.

665 FIRST QUESTION IS REALLY FOR THE CITY MANAGER.

666 FIRST QUESTION IS FOR THE CITY MANAGER YOU KNOW THE ESTIMATE ON NEW 667 CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

668 DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.

669 NOT NECESSARILY FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES 670 DEPARTMENT DOESN'T [INAUDIBLE].

671 SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT.

672 WE HAD THE QUESTION AT THE END THE MEETING LAST TIME SO WE DID SOME ROUGH MATH 673 AND NEW CONSTRUCTION GOING ON YOUR PROPERTY VALUES HAS BEEN COMPLETED BY JANUARY 674 1ST TO MAKE YOUR TAX ROLLS.

675 SO WE LOOK AT NEW CONSTRUCTION I LOOK AT TH PERMITS.

676 WE DO DEMOLITION SIGNS PRINTED COMMERCIAL PERMITS.

677 THAT VALUE IS VERY VERY HIGH.

678 BUT IT NEVER COMES OUT THAT WAY AT THE END.

679 AND LOOK HISTORICALLY BACK IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS LIKE YOU KNOW YOU SEE 30 BILLION 680 DOLLARS OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH AND THEN YOUR TAX VALUE GOES UP ONLY BY 1.2.

681 USUALLY ABOUT 75 PERCENT USUALLY.

682 YEAH.

683 SO IT'S IT'S WE'RE LOOKING IN THAT TO GET THAT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR YOU FOR THAT 684 ESTIMATE OF NEW COMMERCIAL GROWTH.

685 WE DID SOME WHITEBOARD MATH AND IT'S STILL NOT LOOKING REALLY GREAT FOR THIS YEAR 686 BUT NEXT YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE THE THE PEAK AND THE REASON WHY I ASK.

687 PUBLIC SAFETY HAS TO BE A PRIORITY FOR ANY COMMUNITY.

688 IF WE WANT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES TO OUR COMMUNITY IF WE WANT TO BECOME BETTER.

689 AS A COMMUNITY PUBLIC SAFETY HAS TO BE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

690 AND THE INTERIM CHIEF HAS MADE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT AS TO HIS FLEET HIS 691 STAFFING NEEDS AS IT RELATES TO ADDRESSING VIOLENT CRIME.

692 AND IT'S MY OPINION JUST AS ONE MEMBER OF THIS CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD THAT 693 YOU KNOW WE SHOULD DO OUR BEST AS THE CITY TO PRIORITIZE HIS NEEDS BECAUSE 694 IN DOING SO WE HELP OURSELVES AS A AS A CITY.

695 AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT ARGUMENT OR JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON IN TERMS OF 696 THE ARGUMENT THAT HE HAS ALREADY MADE JUST A FEW MOR QUESTIONS THOUGH ABOUT

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697 FLEET.

698 SO THE SUPPORT COMMANDER HAD MADE SOME POINTS REGARDING THEY HADN'T LOOKED 699 AT LEASING.

700 MY QUESTION TO YOU ON THAT IS DID YOU CONSIDER AS OPTIONS.

701 WHAT COMPANIES? 702 WE LOOKED.

703 I'M SORRY.

704 WE'VE LOOKED AT A LEASING OPTION PROBABLY THREE YEARS AGO WHEN WE STARTED THIS 705 WHOLE WHEN WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE 706 AS THE YEARS WENT ALONG.

707 I DON'T REMEMBER THE COMPANIES TO BE HONEST.

708 I KNOW MEARS LEASING WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT RINGS A BELL BUT I CAN'T I CAN'T 709 I CAN'T.

710 THE REASON WHY I ASK.

711 THERE IS A COMPANY OUT THERE BY NAME OF ENTERPRISE AND ENTERPRISE NOT ONLY 712 LEASES YOU THE VEHICLES BUT IN THEIR AGREEMENTS THEY TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE 713 AS WELL.

714 IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE CURRENT CITY THAT I WORK FOR WE HAVE CONSIDERABLY 715 REDUCED OUR FLEET COST.

716 AND THE COST COMPARED TO PURCHASING IS CONSIDERABLY LESS BECAUSE OF THE FACT 717 THAT THE END OF THE LEASE YOU GET VALUE ON THE VEHICLES TO GO AND REPLACE 718 THEM AT THE END OF THE LEASE AND SO YOU'RE NEVER.

719 WELL, THE PROBLEM THOUGH IS YOUR POLICE VEHICLES AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET FAIRLY 720 DAMP.

721 SO WE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO GET ANY VALUE ON THAT BUT THE SAME IS YOU'RE GOING TO 722 HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT IN TERMS OF YOUR COSTS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THAN YOU WOULD 723 IF YOU OUTRIGHT PURCHASED OR FINANCE AND I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOU AND I CAN 724 PROVIDE YOU WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL AND 725 THE CITY MANAGER AND EMAIL OF MY CONTACTS WITH ENTERPRISE AND I WOULD 726 ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEM TO LOOK AT ADDRESSING YOUR 727 FLEET NEEDS 86 VEHICLES.

728 THAT'S A HUGE TIPPING POINT.

729 YOU CAN'T SERVICE THE CALLS BY SENDING OFFICERS IN THE VEHICLES THAT'S A CHALLENGE 730 CHALLENGE FOR EVERYBODY.

731 THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

732 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

733 CITY MANAGER.

734 I JUST HAVE A QUICK COMMENT.

735 TIM DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

736 I BELIEVE THE MEARS WAS THE LEASING COMPANY A FEW YEAR AGO.

737 THE ISSUE THAT WE HAD AND I WAS GOING TO ASK ASHLEY THE SAME QUESTION I BELIEVE 738 WHEN WE HAD WHICH I THINK YOU'D HAVE 10 VEHICLES DOWN RIGHT NOW FOUR ARE LIKE 739 ENGINE ISSUES AND I THINK THERE'S TWO OR THREE TOTALS FOR THIS YEAR IN THE MEARS 740 WHEN THEY WERE TOTALED WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T GET ANY VALUE OUT OF IT OBVIOUSLY 741 AND WE ACTUALLY ENDED UP PAYING BECAUSE WE TOTALED IT BEFORE THE LEASE ENDED.

742 SO THERE WAS A REPAYMENT.

743 DO YOU KNOW IN YOUR CONTRACT WITH ENTERPRISE THAT THE CITY OF [INAUDIBLE] IF YOU 744 TOTAL WILL BE OK BEFORE THE LEASE END.

745 WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS ARE FOR THE CITY TO PAY THE REMAINDER OF THE LEASE AND 746 THEN RELEASE A NEW VEHICLE AND START OVER 747 ALL RIGHT.

748 WE'LL HAVE BOBBY MARSALA FROM PURCHASING CONTACT YOUR PURCHASING GET 749 THOSE DETAILS ON HOW YOU AWARDED THE CONTRACT.

750 IT WAS COMPETITIVE A STATE CONTRACT FSA OR ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS.

751 LOVELY THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.

752 753 CAN YOU HEAR ME.

754 THAT'S A VERY INTERESTING CHART YOU SHOWED OF THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND THE 755 RELATIVE NUMBERS OF OFFICERS PER HEAD OF POPULATION.

756 I DON'T KNOW IT PROMPTS QUESTIONS LIKE IS THERE ANY CORRELATION TO THE CRIME 757 RATE.

758 IS IT LIKE MAYBE PALM BAY'S HIGH CRIME RATE IS HIGHER BECAUSE THEY HAVE FEWER 759 POLICE OFFICERS OR OR IS IT THAT THE DEMOGRAPHICS ARE SUCH THAT THE CITY I THINK 760 AT THE TOP OF THE LIST WAS WEST PALM BEACH.

761 THEY HAVE SUCH A HIGH CRIME RATE THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT IN A HUGE NUMBER OF 762 OFFICERS TO TRY AND MITIGATE IT.

763 OR IS THERE ANY CORRELATION ALONG THOSE LINES.

764 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND THERE'S MANY VARIABLES THAT COME INTO PLAY IN TERMS OF 765 WHAT CAUSES CRIME RATE.

766 AND JUST TO BE CLEAR OUR CRIME RATE HERE IN PALM BA HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN LOW 767 OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WE'VE EXPERIENCED SOM FLUCTUATION BUT LIKE I 768 REPORTED EARLIER CURRENTLY UCR REPORTS A DECREASE NOT ONLY BY CRIME BUT IN 769 PROPERTY CRIME.

770 I JUST WANNA PUT THAT OUT THERE SO THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT DESPITE ALL 771 OF OUR CHALLENGES WE'RE STILL FIGHTING CRIME EFFECTIVELY IN YOUR CITY IN 772 OUR CITY.

773 NUMBER ONE NUMBER TWO IN TERMS OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT YOU SAW IN COMPARISON 774 WE ONLY WANTED TO CAPTURE WHAT THE POPULATION WAS OR THE OFFICER RATIO WAS.

775 WE CLEARLY KNOW THAT SOME OF THOSE POPULATIONS ARE A LOT MORE URBANIZED THAT HAD 776 UNIQUE CHALLENGES WITHIN THEIR OWN THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL POLICE SERVICES.

777 SO THAT IS A FACTOR BUT IT'S DIFFICULT TO CORRELATE WHAT WHETHER WHETHER THE 778 CRIME RATE IS BASED ON THAT RATIO.

779 WE DO KNOW THIS.

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780 WE DO KNOW THAT YOU REACH A POINT IN TERMS OF THAT RATIO WHERE IT BECOMES A 781 VERY DIFFICULT CHALLENGE TO EFFECTIVELY JUST POLICE A COMMUNITY.

782 NOW BECAUSE WE ARE SO LARGE AND SO SPREAD OUT.

783 IT IS OUR PRIORITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH OFFICERS TO JUST PUT OUT IN 784 THE COMMUNITY WHEREAS WE CAN'T HAVE A SMALL CENTRAL AREA WHERE WE WE JUST YOU 785 KNOW PUT A WHOLE BUNCH COPS IN.

786 WE HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH FOLKS SO THAT WE CAN DECENTRALIZE AND PUT INTO 787 NEIGHBORHOODS SO WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE HENCE COMMUNITY POLICING.

788 HOPE THAT ANSWERS THAT.

789 FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

790 SO HOW MANY POLICE STATIONS DO YOU HAVE? 791 THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

792 SO WE USED TO HAVE DISTRICTS AND WE STILL HAVEN'T BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY IN SPIRIT.

793 SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR OUR MAIN POLICE HEADQUARTERS.

794 WE DO HAVE ONE SUBSTATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY OFF OF MAIN STREET.

795 NOW A CITY OF OUR SIZE WE HAVE TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE DECENTRALIZE 796 SERVICES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES IF OFFICERS ARE COMING 797 FROM A CERTAIN ONE BUILDING.

798 NOW AND WE ARE LIKE I TOLD YOU BEFORE IN TERMS OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING 799 WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT IN YEARS TO COME.

800 IMPACT FEES WILL HOPEFULLY TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THAT GOOD BUDGETING WILL 801 HOPEFULLY TAKE CARE SO MIGHT AS WELL BUT WE NEED TO GET TO A POINT WHERE 802 PARTICULARLY IN THE SOUTH AND WHERE OUR RESPONSE TIME AVERAGE IS 14 MINUTES 14 803 MINUTES TO GET FROM MALABAR IN SAN FILIPPO DOWN TO THE NEW INTERCHANGE WE NEED TO 804 GET TO A POINT WHERE THAT IS SELF-SUSTAINING WHERE WE HAVE POLICE FACILITIES THAT 805 PROVIDE FULL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY DOWN THERE.

806 SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IS WE ARE IN THE PROCESS O PLANNING IN THE FUTURE TO 807 DECENTRALIZE WHERE WE ARE QUASI CENTRAL TODAY.

808 SO YOU ONLY HAVE TWO STATIONS.

809 YES ARE THERE IN SPIRIT ONLY.

810 WELL WE HAVE DISTRICTS THAT ARE IN NAME THREE DISTRICTS TWO DISTRICTS.

811 BUT OUR POLICE STATIONS ARE TWO BUILDINGS ONE THAT SERVES THE EAST SIDE OF THE 812 CITY DISTRICT ONE OR THE NORTH DISTRICT.

813 USED TO BE DISTRICT 1 IT'S NOW THE NORTH DISTRICT AND THE OTHERS ARE HOUSED OF 814 OUR MAIN BUILDING NEXT DOOR.

815 SO IN JUST BY THE NATURE OF THAT THAT WOULD PRECLUDE LOOKING AT THE STRUCTURE.

816 WHY YOU HAVE SUCH A LONG TIME TO RESPOND TO CERTAIN AREAS.

817 IT'S CERTAINLY A FACTOR.

818 YES.

819 YEAH I MEAN WE CONSIDER CREATING SUBSTATIONS IN IN NEIGHBORHOODS POSSIBLY 820 LEASING BUILDINGS OR OFFICE SPACE IN COMMERCIAL AREAS TO THE SOUTH LIKE IN 821 BAYSIDE LAKES AREA.

822 IF YOU COULD PUT A FACILITY NOT NECESSARILY ONE THAT WE BUILD BUT ONE THAT WE LEASE 823 IN A STOREFRONT PERHAPS.

824 WOULD THAT RESPONSE.

825 YEAH ALL OF THOSE ARE CERTAINLY OPTIONS THAT WE CAN EXPLORE.

826 WHEN YOU LOOK AT POLICE SERVICES IN TERMS OF A POLICE STATION IF YOU WANT 827 TO HAVE A POLICE STATION THAT IS SELF-SUSTAINING MEANING A BOOKING FACILITY 828 INTERVIEW ROOMS LOBBY IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL KIND OF SETUP FOR A BUILDING.

829 SO WE ARE OPEN TO ANY ANY SUGGESTIONS.

830 YES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE GROWTH IS.

831 YES.

832 SO HE'S CITY MANAGER.

833 YES PLEASE.

834 THE INTERCHANGE THE I-95 SE THE NEW INTERCHANGE DOWN ON THE EXIT 166 OPENING IN 835 FALL.

836 WE HAVE THREE ACRE SITE FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY ANNEX ALREADY DONATED TO THE CITY.

837 SO WE JUST HAVE TO USE OUR IMPACT FEES WHICH WE WILL ADDRESS IN I BELIEVE NEXT 838 MONTH ACTUALLY.

839 WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED SINCE 2000.

840 I DO SAY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS SOMETHING IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND NOT 841 JUST DOWN BABCOCK.

842 I'VE TALKED TO I'VE TALKED A LOT OF PEOPLE ABOUT IMPACT FEES SO LET ME JUST MAKE IT 843 QUITE CLEAR ON THE IMPACT FEES I'VE TALKED A LOT OF GROUPS ABOUT THAT.

844 SO ON A FIFTY NINE APARTMENT BUILDING THAT'S BEING BUILT NOW I THINK POLICE RECEIVED 845 EIGHTEEN HUNDRED DOLLARS IN AN IMPACT FEE.

846 I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS.

847 SO I THINK WE ALL AGREE THAT.

848 THE FORMULA HAS BEEN WE JUST NEED TO BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL SO THAT WAS ONE 849 THING ON THE IMPACT FEE FOR GROWTH OF A STATION AS THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR 850 THAT SO IT DOESN'T COME OUT OF GENERAL FUND IT COMES OUT OF THEIR IMPACT FEES.

851 THE OTHER THING IS ALL THE OFFICERS DO HAVE A TAKE HOME VEHICLE SO THEIR CAR 852 IS THEIR OFFICE.

853 HOWEVER THERE IS A FIRE STATION IN EVERY DISTRICT THAT ALSO CAN DO THAT.

854 IT DOES NOT HAVE A BOOKING INTAKE LOBBY INTERVIEW ROOM THAT IS NEEDED FOR THOSE

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855 DIVERSE DECENTRALIZED SERVICES THAT ARE MOSTLY HOUSED OUT OF HERE AT 856 MALABAR ROAD.

857 SO YES WE WE ARE VERY CONSCIOUS THE CHIEF AND I AND STAFF ARE VERY CONSCIOUS 858 I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU GUYS TO GET TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

859 IT'S GONNA BE EXCITING.

860 AWESOME.

861 SO HAS EVERYBODY ASKED THEIR QUESTIONS OR.

862 I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD ONE THING.

863 I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ALL OF US UP HERE ON THE BOARD DO REMEMBER LAST YEAR THESE 864 REQUESTS CAME FORWARD WITH IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN 12 ADDED OFFICERS WAS A 865 REQUEST LAST YEAR.

866 YES WHEN I GOT TRIMMED TO SIX AS WELL LAST YEAR I DO BELIEVE THAT WAS A BAND-AID 867 IN ITSELF JUST TO GET THROUGH.

868 AND I JUST DID SOME QUICK ROUGH NUMBERS BASED UPON THAT CHART THAT WAS UP 869 THERE WITH ALL THE CITIES JUST TO GET US TIED FOR LAST PLACE INSTEAD OF IN 870 LAST PLACE WE'D HAVE TO ADD THIRTY NINE OFFICERS AND THAT TO ME IS HORRIFYING.

871 THE FACT THAT JUST GET SADDLED.

872 ACTUALLY LET ME ASK JUST ONE.

873 OK.

874 AS I UNDERSTAND IT YOU INDICATED THAT WE HAD 86 VEHICLES REALLY THAT NEED TO 875 BE REPLACED.

876 I BELIEVE THAT ARE IN CRITICAL.

877 THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

878 AND YOU REALLY INDICATED AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW REALLY WE'RE LOOKING AT 92 879 THAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE MORE THAT ARE AT THE ALMOST 15 POINT CONCERN.

880 YES.

881 YES.

882 SO IT REALLY ISN'T 86.

883 IT'S A TOTAL OF 92 VEHICLES REALLY THAT WE ARE IN CRITICAL NEED OUT OF 86 884 TODAY AND PERHAPS NEXT WEEK UP TO 90.

885 EXACTLY.

886 EXACTLY.

887 ALL RIGHT.

888 AND TWELVE FULL TIME POLICE OFFICERS.

889 AND I AGREE WITH ASHLEY AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S SENTIMENT HERE THAT I THINK IT IS 890 IMPORTANT THAT WE HIRE THE 12.

891 THIS THIS ROUND THAT IT ISN'T CUT BACK TO 6 IF THAT'S AT ALL POSSIBLE.

892 AS YOU KNOW YOU ARE THE BOARD AND YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL 893 SO I HOPE YOU'RE YOU'RE TAKING YOUR NOTES YOUR PRIORITIES I'M SURE YOU'RE 894 GONNA TAKE ALL THIS INFORMATION AT THE END AND YOU'RE GOING TO COME UP 895 WITH A YOU'RE HAVE ANOTHER COUPLE OF MEETINGS OF WHAT YOU'RE GONNA ACTUALLY 896 ADDRESS WITH COUNCIL THAT YOU CAN BRING FORTH.

897 SO ON A I'M GONNA ALLOW ASHLEY TO ASK HIS LAST QUESTION BUT I'D LIKE TO 898 CLOSE OUT THE REMARKS.

899 OK.

900 SO YOUR SLIDE SHOWING US IN YOUR BENCHMARK IN LAST PLACE OFFICER POPULATION 901 YES.

902 WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME TO SEE IS NOT JUST THAT WE'RE IN LAST PLACE BUT WHAT 903 WHAT IS OUR EFFECTIVENESS IN DEALING WITH CRIME.

904 SO THE SLIDE THAT HELPS ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT IS THE TREND OF YOUR UCR FOR 905 NON-VIOLENT AND VIOLENT CRIME WHICH I DON'T SEE AND I HEARD YOU MENTION THAT 906 IT'S ON A DOWNWARD TREND CORRECT SET FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WHERE WE'VE GONE UP 907 AND DOWN.

908 CORRECT.

909 AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU WOULD PROVIDE THAT TO US BECAUSE THAT GIVES US 910 BALANCE.

911 YOU KNOW YOU SHOW THE BAD PICTURE HERE BUT IN THE SAME SAME CONTEXT WE'RE 912 STILL DOING A GOOD JOB WITH CURTAILING CRIME WITH THE RESOURCES.

913 YES SURE.

914 AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO ADD TO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A GOOD POINT IS THAT THE 915 NUMBERS CURRENTLY ARE IN FAVOR BUT SOME OF OUR UNITS HAVE BEEN STRIPPED SO LOW 916 THAT OTHER FACTORS COME INTO PLAY THAT MAY UNFORTUNATELY END UP ADDING 917 TO A DIFFERENT NUMBER SUCH AS MORALE AND BURNOUT RATE WHEN YOU DILAPIDATE 918 UNITS.

919 AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF SO THAT OUR RESOURCES OUR MOST 920 PRECIOUS PRECIOUS RESOURCES WHICH IS PEOPLE WE TAKE CARE OF THEM AS WELL AS 921 THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY.

922 SO ALL OF THIS.

923 YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

924 COMES INTO PLAY AS TO HOW A CRIME FLUCTUATES.

925 RIGHT.

926 THANK YOU.

927 THANK YOU.

928 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIME IN MELBOURNE.

929 DO YOU HAVE YOU HAD INDICATED THAT IT'S FIVE MINUTES.

930 DID YOU SAY? 931 FIVE MINUTES AND 30 SECONDS.

932 YES.

933 I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

934 OKAY EVERYBODY IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING 935 OUT HERE ON YOUR TIME TO EXPRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO NEED 936 TO FOCUS ON AS A COMMUNITY IN SUPPORTING THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.

937 ON A PERSONAL NOTE I'D LIKE TO AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THE WAY YOU SUPPORT THIS 938 COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

939 THANK YOU IT'S MY PLEASURE TO SERVE AND WE HAVE A GREA STAFF.

940 IF I MAY MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MY FELLOW CITY 941 STAFF MEMBERS TO HEAR WE KNOW THAT WE ARE ALTHOUGH A BIG DEPARTMENT 942 IN OUR CITY.

943 WE ARE ONE OF MANY.

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944 AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I COME TO YOU WITH THESE NUMBERS THAT ARE BIG BUT 945 THEY'RE CONSERVATIVE.

946 SO I'M NOT COMING AT YOU WITH SOMETHING THAT IS WITHOUT CONSIDERATION TO 947 EVERYBODY ELSE'S NEEDS IN THE CITY.

948 WE ARE ONE ELEMENT THAT MAKES THE CITY OPERATE.

949 AND UNLIKE ANY OTHER TIME IN MY 28 YEARS UP THERE HA NEVER BEEN THIS AMOUNT OF 950 COLLABORATION WITHIN DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.

951 SO I CONFIDENTLY TELL YOU THAT ALL OF US THAT ARE COMING AT YOU COMING AT YOU 952 WITH CONSERVATIVE FIGURES BASED ON ETHICAL BUDGETING.

953 SO THANK YOU.

954 THANK YOU VERY MUCH INTERIM CHIEF MOYA.

955 SO NEXT STEP IS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.

956 ACTUALLY IF I COULD ASK A FAVOR IF I COULD JUST TAKE A ONE MINUTE RECESS I 957 LEFT MY CUP OF WATER IN THE CAR AND I AM PARCHED.

958 PLEASE.

959 I'M GOING TO CALL THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER WITH THAT.

960 IF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD PROCEED AND DO THEIR PRESENTATION I'D APPRECIATE 961 IT.

962 AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

963 THANK YOU.

964 CAN YOU HEAR ME.

965 I CAN HEAR YOU.

966 GREAT.

967 ALL RIGHT MY NAME'S LESLIE HOOG I'M THE FIRE CHIEF O PALM BAY FIRE RESCUE.

968 ALSO HERE IS DEPUTY CHIEF ANTHONY GIANANTONIO AND THEN SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER 969 SANDRA [INAUDIBLE].

970 THEY'RE HERE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

971 SO OUR PRESENTATION TONIGHT IS FAIRLY SIMPLE.

972 WHAT I WANTED YOU TO SEE IS OUR ARE STAFFING WE HAVE 15 FULL STAFF SUPPORT 973 PERSONNEL 112 ON SHIFT.

974 WE HAVE FIVE VACANT FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY 975 FILLING RIGHT NOW.

976 SO THE TESTING PROCESS IS DONE AND THAT WE'VE SELECTED OUR PERSONNEL AND 977 THEY'RE IN THE BACKGROUND PROCESS.

978 YOU ALSO SEE FIVE TELE COMMUNICATORS UP THERE THAT WE HAD.

979 WE ARE ENJOINED WITH PD AND RETURNING DISPATCH BACK TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY SO 980 WE'RE NO LONGER GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY WITH BREVARD COUNTY FIRE RESCUE THAT IS 981 TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM WORKS A LOT BETTER THAN IT IS.

982 WE HAVE MISSED CALLS WE HAVE DELAYED CALLS WE HAVE POOR COMMUNICATION.

983 SO WE DECIDED WE WANTED TO COME BACK HOME TO OUR PD.

984 AND SO FROM VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE SAVED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE HAVE 985 PUT THEM IN TO BE RECLASSIFIED AS TELE COMMUNICATORS.

986 SO RIGHT NOW AS A TOTAL 137 PERSONNEL.

987 ON OUR FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WE ARE PUTTING IN A REQUEST FOR EXTRA ADDITIONAL 988 TELECOMMUNICATION SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHT.

989 SO WE HAD THE FIVE FROM POSITIONS THAT WE SAVED THAT WERE FOR VACANT 990 UNINTENTIONALLY FILLED POSITIONS AND THEN WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE ADDITIONAL 991 TO MAKE A TOTAL OF EIGHT DISPATCHERS SO WE CAN COVER ALL THE SHIFTS.

992 THE OTHER THING IS THEY'RE GOING TO ALL BE CROSS TRAINED SO THERE WON'T BE 993 JUST SPECIFIC JUST FIRE DISPATCHERS OR POLICE THEY'LL BE CROSS TRAINED TO 994 BE WORKING ANYWHERE IN THE COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.

995 SO THAT'LL HELP WITH WHEN THEY HAVE OVERTIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

996 SO IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC DISCIPLINE.

997 THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE IT.

998 SO WE WILL HAVE PEOPLE ON FIRE BUT THEY CAN ALSO DO POLICE.

999 WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING THREE MORE ENTRY LEVEL FIREFIGHTE POSITIONS.

1000 AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THROUGH A GRANT WE RECEIVED OUR TENDER.

1001 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL TENDER.

1002 HOWEVER IT'S UN STAFFED AND SENDS PALM BAY IS SHORT ON FIRE HYDRANTS WE USE WATER 1003 TENDERS TO BRING WATER TO THE SCENE WITH OUR ENGINES AND SO WE HAVE THREE MORE 1004 FIREFIGHTERS ADDED TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

1005 WE WILL HAVE DRIVERS 24/7 FOR THAT TENDER.

1006 SO WHEN WE ARRIVE ON SCENE THE WATER SUPPLY IS UNINTERRUPTED.

1007 SO THAT WAS ONE OF OUR GOALS IN ADDING THAT.

1008 WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE IMPACT FEE FUND BECAUSE WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY GO 1009 FOR A 100 PERCENT IMPACT FEES.

1010 AND WITH THAT IT RELEASES THE BURDEN OF BUILDING NEW FIRE STATIONS TO 1011 ACCOMMODATE OUR CALL.

1012 ACTUALLY OUR CALLS BECAUSE AS THE POPULATION GROWS OUR STAFF IS BEING STRETCHED TO 1013 RESPOND TO THESE CALLS IN A TIMELY MANNER.

1014 SO WITH IMPACT FEES WE WERE LOOKING AT PROJECTING FIRE STATIONS SIX RIGHT NOW WE 1015 COHABITATE WITH THE COUNTY.

1016 OUR ENGINE SITS OUT IN THE WEATHER AS DOES OUR BRUSH TRUCK FROM UNDERNEATH THE 1017 COVER.

1018 SO THERE'S OUR HALF A MILLION DOLLAR APPARATUS THAT ARE JUST BEING BEAT TO 1019 DEATH BY THE SUN.

1020 SO IF WE DO WHAT WE CONSIDER AN OUTPOST STATION WE ALREADY HAVE THE LAND WE 1021 HAVE THE APPARATUS WE HAVE THE PERSONNEL BUT THE IMPACT FEES WILL COVER THE 1022 BUILDING COST OF THE FIRE STATION AND THEN WE ACTUALL HAVE A FIRE STATION THAT 1023 PROTECTS THE AREA.

1024 IT'S ACTUALLY WE CAN MOVE IT TO A BETTER RESPONSE AREA.

1025 AND AT THE SAME TIME IT PROTECTS THE APPARATUS THAT ARE A HALF A MILLION 1026 DOLLARS EACH.

1027 FIRE STATION 7 IS EMERALD LAKES AND AS OUR CITY MANAGER SAID THERE'S 1028 PROPERTY DOWN THERE.

1029 BUT IN OUR NEW STATIONS WHAT WE WERE PUTTING IN OU STATIONS WAS ALSO AN OFFICE 1030 FOR PD.

1031 IT MAY NOT BE TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY WANT OR IT MAY JUST DEPEND ON WHAT HAPPENS.

1032 BUT WE WANTED TO PUT AN OFFICE IN THERE SO THEY COULD GET OUT OF THEIR CARS 1033 THAT THEY HAD TO USE THE RESTROOM WRITE A REPORT MAKE A CALL.

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1034 THEY'D ACTUALLY HAVE A PLACE TO LAND.

1035 IT WOULD ALSO PUT THEM CLOSER TO PERSONNEL AND ALSO BE WITH US.

1036 SO THAT WAS FOR EMERALD LAKES THAT'S ALSO IN THE IMPACT FEES AS IS ALL THE 1037 EQUIPMENT.

1038 SO THERE IS NO COST EXCEPT FOR PERSONNEL OUT OF THAT STATION.

1039 STATION 8 IS NORTH EAST PALM BAY AND THAT'S OVER ON ROBERT J.

1040 CONLON WHERE THE NEW LUXURY APARTMENTS ARE GOING IN.

1041 SO WE'RE STARTING TO RUN WE'VE ALREADY HIT FOURTEEN HUNDRED CALLS RUNNING IN 1042 THAT AREA FROM STATION 1 WHICH AS YOU KNOW IT'S RUNNING THE APPARATUS.

1043 SO WE ARE ACTUALLY HAVING TO RUN A LADDER AND AN ENGINE TO COVER THIS AND 1044 RIGHT NOW OUR LADDER YOU'LL SEE IN ANOTHER SLIDE OUR LADDER HAS BEEN OUT OF 1045 SERVICE QUITE A BIT.

1046 SO I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

1047 SO THE AERIAL PLATFORM YOU SEE RIGHT THERE FOR STATION 7 THAT WOULD BE ALSO 1048 COVERED BY IMPACT FEES AND THEN A QUINT WHICH IS A FIRE TRUCK WITH A LADDER ON 1049 IT.

1050 THAT'S KIND OF LIKE AN BETWEEN A LADDER AND IT CAN DO BOTH FUNCTIONS 1051 THAT WOULD ALSO BE COVERED AND THAT WOULD BE GOING TO STATION EIGHT.

1052 SO THAT WOULD COVER THE CONDOS.

1053 BECAUSE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANY AERIAL DEVICES YOU CAN'T REACH ABOVE THE SECOND 1054 FLOOR SO YOU HAVE NO MEANS OF ELEVATED RESCUE OR ELEVATED FIRE STREAMS. 1055 AND WE ARE STARTING TO GO UP IN PALM BAY IT'S NOT JUST OUT.

1056 CURRENTLY WE HAVE IMPACT FEES IN OUR ACCOUNT.

1057 AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LOWERS THE ISO RATING AND WE ARE ACTUALLY CONTRACTED 1058 OUT PAYING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR TO DO THI IS A FIRE TRAINING BUILDING 1059 WITH OUR CURRENT IMPACT FEES WE CAN ACTUALLY BUY A FULL SIZE TRAINING FACILITY 1060 AT OUR NEW FIRE STATION.

1061 SO WE HAVE THE PROPERTY FOR IT.

1062 WE CAN PUT IT IN PLACE.

1063 WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SMOKE BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MUCH AN INDUSTRIAL 1064 AREA BUT THAT WOULD ALSO LOWER OUR ISO RATING WHICH THE GOOD THING ABOUT THAT 1065 IS WE'RE ALREADY A THREE.

1066 BUT AS WE ADD THE THINGS IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND BURN BUILDING WHICH IS HIGHER 1067 TRAINING THAT NUMBER LOWERS WHICH IS A BIG IMPACT FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING BECAUSE 1068 IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BONUS FOR THEM IF WE HAVE A LOWER ISO RATING ALL COMMERCIAL 1069 BUILDINGS AND BUSINESSES THAT COME IN PAY A LOWER INSURANCE RATE BECAUSE THE 1070 INFRASTRUCTURE IS RATED TO SUPPORT THEM SO THEY KNOW THEIR LOSSES WON'T BE AS 1071 GREAT.

1072 AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM IS IF THERE IS ENOUGH MONEY WE'RE TRYING TO SECURE AN AREA 1073 LIKE VEHICLE ALSO OUT OF CURRENT IMPACT FEES.

1074 HERE YOU GO YOU SEE THE AERIAL PLATFORM FOR STATION 1 OUR CURRENT LADDER TRUCK 1075 IS OUT OF SERVICE.

1076 YES MA'AM THE AIR AND LIGHT VEHICLE IS THAT LIKE A DRONE.

1077 NO NO IT'S ACTUALLY A BIG HEAVY THING THAT RUNS ON THE ROAD.

1078 IT CARRIES ALL THE AIR BOTTLES IT CAN FILL AIR BOTTLES ON SCENE BECAUSE 1079 WHEN THEY FIGHT A FIRE THE AIR BOTTLES ARE DEPLETED AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO BACK 1080 TO THE CENTRAL STATION TAKES THEM OUT OF THEIR AREA TO FILL THE AIR BOTTLES TO 1081 COME BACK TO RUN CALL.

1082 SO IT IMPACTS YOU KNOW RESPONSE TIMES TO SO AND THE LIGHTING IS IF WE HAVE 1083 AN ACCIDENT ON I-95 OR ANYTHING WE CAN PUT THE LIGHTS UP AND YOU CAN 1084 ACTUALLY ILLUMINATE IT AND YOU CAN SEE BECAUSE SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO FIND 1085 THE PEOPLE ON THE SCENE THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS IN THE CAR.

1086 SO LIGHTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THE DARK.

1087 SO THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS CAPITAL NEEDS FOR 2020.

1088 WE DID PUT THAT IN FOR THIS YEAR AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO 1089 ELEVATED MEANS FOR RESCUE OR FOR WATER STREAMS. 1090 IT SAYS ONE POINT THREE MILLION THAT IS UNDER THE FSA BID FOR EVERYTHING WE 1091 NEED.

1092 HOWEVER THERE IS ALSO A SUTPHEN LEASE BUT IT'S 1.35.

1093 IT'S A 10 YEAR LEASE.

1094 AND THEN YOU OWN IT AFTER THE 10 YEARS SO THERE'S A PAYMENT BUT IT'S GOING TO 1095 WHEN WE GET THE PROPER TRUCKS SPECED OUT WHAT WE NEED WE'RE GIVING IT TO 1096 FINANCE SO THEY CAN FIND OUT THE BEST FINANCING TO SAVE THE CITY THE MOST AMOUNT OF 1097 MONEY.

1098 STATION FOUR THAT IS 75,000 DOLLARS FOR MOLD REMEDIATION.

1099 IT'S AN OLDER FACILITY AND MAINTENANCE NEEDS TO BE DONE ON IT AND OVER THE 1100 YEARS IT HAS THAT.

1101 BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROJECTED THAT ON WHAT STATION 3 COSTS IT'S GOT THE 1102 SAME CONDITIONS GOING ON INSIDE.

1103 SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THAT MONEY TO HELP FACILITIES BECAUSE THEY 1104 DON'T HAVE IT IN THEIR BUDGET.

1105 STATION THE FIRE STATION ALERTING SYSTEM THAT TIES BACK INTO DISPATCH.

1106 THAT IS THE MONEY THAT WE NEED TO PUT THE ALERTING SYSTEMS IN THE STATION SO 1107 WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THE MDT IS RUNNING AND THE ALARM AND THE ACTUALLY THE 1108 NOTIFICATION WILL COME UP.

1109 IT'S A MODERN SYSTEM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH YOU KNOW THE 1110 SHARED DISPATCH WE ARE NOT IN THE IN 2019 WE'RE 15 YEARS BACK.

1111 SO AND WE DO MISS CALLS BY THE WAY.

1112 SO THAT IS A BIG THING THAT YOU KNOW WE HAVE OUR SECOND DUE ENGINE SOMETIMES ON 1113 SCENE BEFORE THE FIRST DUE BECAUSE THE PAGING SYSTEM DIDN'T WORK.

1114 AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR OUR CITY CALLING US THEY DON'T EVEN THINK TO CALL AND SAY 1115 DID YOU GET YOUR CALL.

1116 IT'S JUST YOU KNOW THE GUYS HAPPEN TO HEAR IT BECAUSE THEY WALK AROUND WEARING 1117 RADIOS ALL DAY LONG WITH IT ON.

1118 ALL RIGHT WILDLAND FIREFIGHTING GEAR THAT IS I THERE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE 1119 FIGHT BRUSH FIRES IN OUR CITY WITH A STRUCTURAL FIREFIGHTING GEAR THAT'S NOT 1120 MEANT TO BE WORN MORE THAN 30 45 MINUTES.

1121 IT CAUSES KIDNEY DAMAGE LIVER DAMAGE AND YOU KNOW IT CAUSES A LOT OF ISSUES 1122 STRUCTURAL FIREFIGHTING GEAR CONSISTS OF THE PROPER LEATHER BOOTS PANTS AN OVER

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1123 SHIRT HELMET AND THE RIGHT GLOVES AND THEY CAN ACTUALLY TAKE PART OF THAT 1124 OFF AND STILL FIGHT FIRES.

1125 SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A JUMPSUIT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BUT IT KEEPS OUR 1126 FIREFIGHTERS HEALTHIER AND BASICALLY DOESN'T COOK THEM.

1127 YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THE RIGHT THE RIGHT PPE.

1128 ON HERE YOU SEE STATION BAY DOOR OPENERS THERE'S TWENT FIVE OF THEM THE REASON WHY 1129 IS THE CURRENT ONES ARE BREAKING CONSTANTLY WHERE W CAN'T GET OUR DOORS UP 1130 BECAUSE THEY'RE RESIDENTIAL.

1131 SO THESE ARE COMMERCIAL DOOR OPENERS THAT WILL ALSO STOP HAVING REPAIRS.

1132 WE WON'T BE TYING UP FACILITIES TIME THE DOORS WILL GO UP BECAUSE WHEN YOU 1133 CAN'T GET OUT OF THE FIRE STATION IT'S REALLY HARD TO RESPOND.

1134 AND WE'VE HAD DOORS GO DOWN BECAUSE OF PARTS FOR TWO AN THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.

1135 SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT THAT UP THERE STATION GATE MOTORS THE SAME THING THE 1136 GATES CONTINUALLY BREAK.

1137 THE PARTS ARE VERY EXPENSIVE.

1138 SO THESE ARE GATE MOTORS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO WORR ABOUT THE GATES FAILING.

1139 AND AGAIN IT WON'T TAX FACILITIES ON TRYING TO GET THE GATES OPEN BECAUSE WHEN 1140 WE HAVE TO LEAVE THEM OPEN WE'RE NOT SECURING ANYTHING.

1141 WE ACTUALLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL WALK INTO THE FIRE STATION WALK ALL THE 1142 WAY INTO THE BAYS AND ALL THE WAY INSIDE THE FIRE STATION.

1143 THE THREE TELECOMMUNICATIONS ARE UP THERE THAT'S THE COST FOR THAT.

1144 AND THE THREE FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.

1145 SO THE TOTAL WITHOUT THE AERIAL PLATFORM IS THAT COS RIGHT THERE.

1146 AND I DIDN'T PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE AGAIN IT'S CAN BE FINANCED OR LEASED 1147 WHICHEVER ENDS UP BEING THE MOST COST SAVINGS.

1148 SO THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE WITH OUR CAPITAL PROJECTED WITH THE AERIAL PLATFORM 1149 WITH WITHOUT IT I PUT A PAYMENT OF 160 UP THERE.

1150 WELL WE TALKED TO SUTPHEN ABOUT THE LEASE 1.35 CAME OUT TO 197,670 A 1151 YEAR FOR 10 YEARS.

1152 SO I JUST WENT AHEAD AND PUT 160 IN THERE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE 1153 SPENDING LESS.

1154 JUST TO GIVE US A BALLPARK SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT IT I AND THEN YOU SEE THE 1155 PERSONNEL COSTS AND THE OTHER THING IS THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING TO THE 1156 SUTPHEN APPARATUS IS BECAUSE WHEN THAT NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED YOU CAN ACTUALLY 1157 GO TO AUTOZONE AND GET THE PARTS.

1158 WE DON'T HAVE TO ORDER AND WAIT.

1159 SO WE HAVE SOMETHING BREAK FLEET CAN GO OVER THERE AND BUY IT AND COME 1160 BACK.

1161 SO THAT'S ONE OF THE SECRETS WITH THE SUTPHENS.

1162 SO THAT IS IT.

1163 ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BOARD HERE.

1164 I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR OUR FIRE CHIEF.

1165 YES.

1166 HOW MANY.

1167 HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU WERE ABLE TO DO SOME GRANT FUNDING LAST YEAR.

1168 I BELIEVE.

1169 BUT WERE YOU ABLE TO PURCHASE SO THE BOARD HAS KNOWLEDGE OF THAT IF THEY 1170 WEREN'T SITTING DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING.

1171 THREE VEHICLES.

1172 AND THEY WERE.

1173 AND WHAT WAS YOUR TOTAL VALUE.

1174 HOW MUCH WAS IT.

1175 THIS IS OUR MONEY LADY.

1176 I KNOW.

1177 1178 1.1 MILLION.

1179 THANK YOU.

1180 WE'RE GRANT HAPPY WHERE WE LOVE GRANTS BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE COME IN IT'S LIKE 1181 SLAMMING THE FOOTBALL AND WANT TO GET ITSELF.

1182 WANTED THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DID DUE DILIGENCE THAT WASN'T JUST A 1183 HUGE ASK THIS YEAR.

1184 I MEAN IT IS A BIG ASK OBVIOUSLY BUT.

1185 IT'S A SCARY ONE BUT ALWAYS THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S GONNA GET HOT IN HERE.

1186 WITH THE GRANTS WE CAN USE YOU KNOW LIKE WE WANT TO DO A SMOKE TOWER 1187 EVENTUALLY AND WE CAN GET A GRANT AND THEN THE PART THAT'S USUALLY MATCHED BY 1188 THE CITY CAN BE DONE WITH IMPACT FEES.

1189 SO THEN THERE'LL BE ZERO COSTS ON THAT.

1190 SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE FUN THING THAT WE DO AS WE SIT AND LOOK FOR GRANTS AND 1191 THINK HOW WE'RE GONNA WEAVE IT TOGETHER TO GO IT DIDN'T COST ANYTHING.

1192 SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE COME FROM.

1193 LESLIE.

1194 YES SIR.

1195 A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

1196 SO THE METHODOLOGY THAT YOU'RE USING THIS YEAR IS TO BRING BACK ALL OF YOUR 1197 COMMUNICATIONS FUNCTIONS BACK TO POLICE.

1198 ACTUALLY IT WILL BE IT'S A JOINT DISPATCH AND IT WOULD BE JANUARY OR FEBRUARY 20 1199 20.

1200 ARE YOU IMPLEMENTING ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY LIKE P.

1201 25.

1202 THAT'S A QUESTION I CAN'T ANSWER BECAUSE THE TECHIES ARE NEAR ME BUT I'M NOT ONE 1203 SO I CAN GET THEM TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.

1204 COME HERE.

1205 YES.

1206 HOW'RE YOU DOING.

1207 DEPUTY CHIEF GIANANTONIO RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY MANAGER LAST YEAR 1208 WITH THE I.T.

1209 DEPARTMENT.

1210 AND YES THERE IS TECHNOLOGY CURRENTLY AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE FIRE TRUCKS IN 1211 ORDER FOR US TO GET TO A LOCATION WE ACTUALLY USE A PHYSICAL MAP BOOK THAT OUR 1212 GIS DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN TO US.

1213 WE'RE NOT LIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT WE'RE.

1214 EXCUSE ME WE HAVE THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE HAVE A TABLET OR SOME SORT OF A 1215 LAPTOP WITH US.

1216 SO GETTING IN THERE NOT ONLY IS IT THAT WE GET A COMPUTER AND WE GET SOME 1217 TECHNOLOGY BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHEN A 911 CALL COMES INTO THAT 1218 CENTER OVER THERE.

1219 THAT'S A PRIMARY ANSWERING POINT.

1220 RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISPATCHED BY SECONDARY ANSWERING POINTS SO WHEN IT COMES HERE 1221 THERE'S A TIME DELAY BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE TRANSFERRED TO ROCK LEDGE.

1222 SO WE WANT TO CAPTURE THAT DATA.

1223 WE WANT TO CAPTURE THAT TIME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO YES THERE IS A BIG INCREASE 1224 IN TECHNOLOGY.

1225 AND LISA COULD GIVE YOU MORE ON THE SUPERION SYSTEM.

1226 WELL I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING IS A LOT OF THE 800 MEGAHERTZ SYSTEMS ARE NO

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1227 LONGER BEING SUPPORTED.

1228 SO THEY'RE RETIRING.

1229 CORRECT.

1230 925 IS THE NEW.

1231 PD ACTUALLY HAS THE NEW IP CONSOLES AND THAT'S WHAT THEY HAVE ALREADY IN THERE.

1232 YOU HAVE AN ASK ACTUALLY COMING UP.

1233 I BELIEVE .

1234 YEAH.

1235 EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS P25 PHASE TWO.

1236 SO WE ARE PHASE TWO COMPLIANT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME OLDER APPARATUS 1237 AGAIN THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

1238 BUT WE GOT TILL 2026 BEFORE THE CUT OVER HAPPENS IN BREVARD.

1239 WHICH IS ALSO WHY THEY HAVE THE TONE OUT EQUIPMENT FOR ALL THE STATIONS BECAUSE 1240 THOSE ARE ALL COMPLIANT AS WELL SO WHEN THEY FOR THE ALERTING SYSTEM TIES INTO 1241 THAT SAME CONSOLE.

1242 AND THEN THE ACTUAL I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR IN THE BUDGET BUT 1243 WE APPROVED THE COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM UPGRADE FOR PD WHICH WE 1244 INCLUDED FIRE MODELS IN.

1245 WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING THAT SO WHEN W TALK ABOUT YOU KNOW 1246 DISPATCH TO THE LAPTOPS WE BOUGHT LAPTOPS LAST YEAR THEY'RE ALREADY HERE.

1247 SO WE NEED PROJECT A TO FINISH DEPLOYING PROJECT B AND THEN WE LOOK AT 1248 DISPATCH TO SEE THEN WE LOOK AT PERSONNEL.

1249 BUT WE NEED TO START CROSS TRAINING BECAUSE I BELIEVE THERE IS AN 18 MONTH CROSS 1250 TRAINING WINDOW TO GET A TELECOMMUTER ON BOARD.

1251 AND IT IS A DIFFICULT POSITION TO FILL AS IS WITH OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE 1252 OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICERS FIREFIGHTERS.

1253 ACTUALLY EVERYBODY LOVES A FIREFIGHTER AND OUR SCHOOL CROSSING GUARDS.

1254 THOSE ARE OUR TOP FOUR.

1255 AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY BUILDING INSPECTORS WE'D LOVE THOSE TOO.

1256 MY ONLY STRUGGLE WITH THE WHOLE IDEAL THERE OF IS THIS MOST COMMUNITIES ARE 1257 MOVING TOWARDS JOINT DISPATCH.

1258 A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE HEADED IN THAT DIRECTION OR THEY'RE ALREADY THERE SEEMS 1259 LIKE BREVARD IS ACTUALLY GOING BACKWARDS AND EVERYBODY'S GOING TO 1260 THEY'RE OWN.

1261 SILOED APPROACH.

1262 SO I'VE SAT IN MANY MEETINGS AND EVEN PRIOR TO THIS BUDGET BEING I.T.

1263 DIRECTOR I THINK IN 2011 I SAT WITH THE COUNTY THE FIRE COUNTY THE THE THEN 1264 COUNTY MANAGER THE CITY MANAGER THEN HERE FOR US AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT JOINT 1265 FIRE DISPATCH THAT WE HAD.

1266 WE ALSO DID YOU HAVE BREVARD COUNTY FIRE ENGINES AND STAFF AND WE'RE HOUSING 1267 SOME OF THEM IN OUR IN THREE OF OUR STATIONS I BELIEVE AND WE'RE ACTUALLY LIVING 1268 IN ONE OF THEIRS DOWN IN [INAUDIBLE] AREA.

1269 THAT'S WHY THAT STATION DOESN'T HAVE ANY IMPACT FEES SO WE HAVE 1270 COLLABORATED.

1271 BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES AND WE'VE HAD THOSE INCIDENTS REPORTED 1272 WHERE CALLS FOR SERVICE DIDN'T GET TO US.

1273 PRIORITY WAS NOT GIVEN TO A CALL HERE IN PALM BAY VERSUS I KNOW IT'S 1274 DOCUMENTED A TREE FIRE IN MERRITT ISLAND THAT WAS JUST ON FIRE VERSUS A 1275 STRUCTURE FIRE WHERE WE NEEDED A TACK TEAM ON THE DISPATCH CALL WE WERE KIND 1276 OF I'M GOING TO SAY IT IGNORED.

1277 SO WE AND THEN WE'VE HAD SOME TIME TISSUE ISSUES I KNOW YOUR YOUR BATTALION 1278 CHIEFS HAVE TOLD CAME IN AND DID A BIG PRESENTATION ON TIME IS TISSUE SO WHEN A 1279 STROKE IS GOING WE JUST CAN'T WAIT FOR OUR CALL.

1280 SO WE'VE TRIED TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ISSUE WITH THEM COORDINATED.

1281 THEY HAVE AN OLDER SYSTEM AS WELL FOR SOFTWARE THEY HAVE THEIR CHALLENGES AND 1282 WE HAVE OURS WE YOU KNOW WE WAIT FOR EVERYBODY TO GET ON THE SAME PAGE SOMETIMES YOU 1283 YOU WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT LOSS.

1284 SORRY.

1285 GOTCHA.

1286 THANKS.

1287 ALSO MAYBE I SHOULDN'T SAY IT BUT THEY'RE ALSO CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW GOING 1288 TO BCSO TO SHARE THEIR DISPATCH AND ELIMINATE FIRE RESCUES DISPATCH SO THEY'RE 1289 NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THEIR OWN ANYMORE.

1290 SO IT'LL BE TITUSVILLE THAT OUR CALLS WOULD GO TO IF WE STAYED.

1291 AND THAT'S A LONG DELAY.

1292 AND JUST FOR AS A SIDE NOTE TOO WE ARE PSAP AND SO ARE THEY.

1293 SO IF IF AND SO IS MELBOURNE.

1294 SO WHEN IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE REDUNDANCY BUILT IN TO BE QUITE HONEST BECAUSE 1295 IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO POWER OR ENERGY OR WHATEVER IN THE NORTH END THEY CAN 1296 TURN THEIR CALLS OVER TO MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY WE COVER FOR THEM.

1297 IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO OUR TOWER HERE SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC IS HAVING WE 1298 CAN TURN OUR CALLS OVER THEM.

1299 SO SOMETIMES HAVING ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET IN A REGIONAL DISPATCH AND I 1300 BELIEVE THAT THE PLACE I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP MY HEAD LIKE PORT ORANGE IN THE 1301 NORTH HAVING ALL YOUR EGGS IN ONE BASKET MAY NOT ALWAYS BE FRUITFUL UNLESS 1302 YOU CAN HAVE SOME REDUNDANCY BUILT WITHIN THA SYSTEM OUT OF AREA DURING 1303 HURRICANE DISASTERS OR OTHERWISE TORNADOS AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAPPENS 1304 IN OUR REGION.

1305 SO JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT FOR YOU GUYS.

1306 SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

1307 YOU'VE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES MISSED CALLS.

1308 YEAH.

1309 HOW MANY ARE YOU THINKING THAT WE'RE LOOKING A IMPACT TO OUR CITY.

1310 ON AN AVERAGE STATION FOUR ONE OF THE STATIONS THAT HAS AN OLDER SYSTEM.

1311 WE'RE LOOKING ON A WEEKLY AVERAGE ABOUT THREE TO FOUR CALLS THAT THEY DON'T GET.

1312 STATION 4 IS ALSO ONE OF OUR LARGEST RESPONSE AREAS WHICH MEANS THE TIME DELAYS 1313 IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT ESPECIALLY IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUILDOUT GOING 1314 ON IN THE SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR.

1315 SO WE HAVE THREE TO FOUR MISSED CALLS A WEEK.

1316 YES.

1317 OKAY.

1318 AND AT ONE STATION AND WHAT IS OUR CURRENT RESPONSE TIME NATIONAL AVERAGE TO BE

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1319 ABOUT SIX MINUTES.

1320 THIS CITY IS WAY TOO BIG FOR US TO BE THERE.

1321 WE WERE AVERAGING ABOUT 6:15 TO 6:30 TO A RESPONSE WITH OUR UNITS CURRENTLY.

1322 SAY THAT AGAIN? 1323 WE ARE AVERAGING ABOUT 6:15 TO 6:30 RESPONSE TIME WITH OUR UNITS AS IT 1324 CURRENTLY SITS.

1325 CHIEF.

1326 CAN YOU AND I KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE EXPERT I JUST WANT TO FALL ON YOUR 1327 JUST FOR EXPLANATION PURPOSES IS IT.

1328 IS IT POSSIBLE THAT MAYBE PD GETS THOSE CALLS AND THEY ARRIVE ON SCENE AT 1329 FIRST AND NOTIFY YOU.

1330 BUT IS THAT IN ALL CASES OR NOT.

1331 THIS IS ONLY DATA THAT I CAN PULL FROM SO REPORT WRITING WHICH IS A CAD INTERFACE 1332 SYSTEM SO WHEN THEY GET IT UP AT BREVARD COUNTY THE CAD IMPORTS INTO OUR REPORT 1333 WRITING SOFTWARE SO IT'S CAPTURED ONLY FROM WHEN BREVARD COUNTY GETS THE 1334 CALL.

1335 WE CANNOT CAPTURE FROM WHEN SOMEBODY CALLS THE PALM BAY PD TIME.

1336 THAT'S JUST SOMETHING OUR REPORT WRITING AND THE SECONDARY PIECE THAT JUST 1337 CAN'T CAPTURE FOR US.

1338 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

1339 YES I HAD ONE.

1340 I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TOUR A FEW OF THE FACILITIES IN THE PAST AND 1341 I WAS SHOWN SOMETHING THAT REALLY REALLY BOTHERED ME THAT I WOULD TALK TO THE 1342 DRIVERS AND THEY WOULD TALK ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS AND I'M HOPING 1343 THESE THINGS YOU'VE INTRODUCED ARE SOLVING THESE PROBLEMS WOULD GET A 1344 CALL AND THEY'D LITERALLY HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT A PAPER MAP IN THE BUILDING 1345 AND THEN NOT NECESSARILY KNOW MAYBE WHAT CURRENT ROAD HAZARDS HAVE HAPPENED 1346 AND MAKE THE BEST ROUTE.

1347 AND OFTENTIMES DRIVERS COME FROM DIFFERENT STATIONS TO OTHER STATIONS MAY NOT BE AS 1348 FAMILIAR WITH THOSE ROADS AND I SAW THAT AND I FELT THAT WAS A GENUINE PROBLEM 1349 AND I'M HOPING THESE ALERTS SYSTEM THE TELECOMMUNICATIO CHANGES THAT THESE ARE 1350 ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES AND MY ACCURATE WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING.

1351 YES SIR IT TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THAT.

1352 PERFECT.

1353 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1354 I CAN VERIFY THAT YOU HAVE AVL WHICH IS AN AUTOMATIC VEHICLE LOCATOR INTERFACE 1355 INCLUDED IN FOR PD AND FIRE IT DOES REQUIRE A LITTLE EXTRA HARDWARE BUT WE ARE 1356 ACTUALLY THINKING THAT WE CAN WE'RE FRUGAL.

1357 SO THERE'S SOME WAYS WE CAN GET TO THAT.

1358 SO WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THE HARDWARE BUT WE IF WE NEED TO WE WILL 1359 BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR DOTS ARE.

1360 THANK YOU.

1361 WE'RE LUCKY OUR CITY MANAGER UNDERSTANDS ALL THAT.

1362 SO WE DON'T EXPLAIN THAT TO A CITY MANAGER.

1363 SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING A STATION AT EMERALD LAKES.

1364 YES SIR.

1365 AND THAT'S THE AREA NEAR THE HERITAGE PARKWAY.

1366 SO THAT'S THE NEW EXCHANGE DOWN THERE WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE BUILDING AND TO BE 1367 HONEST WITH YOU IT'S PROBABLY GONNA NEED TWO STATIONS WHEN IT STARTS 1368 BEING BUILT.

1369 BECAUSE THE WAY THEY'RE THE CONFIGURING THE LAY OF THE LAND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET 1370 FROM THE STATION WHERE WE HAVE PROPERTY TO THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING 1371 A 55 AND UP COMMUNITY.

1372 IT'S ACROSS THE I-95 TO THE NORTHEAST AND THERE'S JUST NO WAY YOU CAN RESPOND 1373 THROUGH THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND GET THERE IN TIME SO THEY'RE GOING TO 1374 ACTUALLY HAVE TO ADDRESS A SECOND STATION EVENTUALLY.

1375 IS THAT AREA ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 95 WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF PALM BAY.

1376 YES.

1377 SO MY QUESTION IS MORE OR LESS WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TIME THROUGH THE STATIONS 1378 THAT SUPPORT THE BAYSIDE LAKES AREA.

1379 STATION SIX HAS NORMAL RESPONSE TIMES THIS RESPONSE TIMES GET VERY LONG 1380 WHEN YOU'RE AT STATION 4 AND YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN SOUTH ON BABCOCK.

1381 THAT'S WHEN THEY BECOME EXTENSIVE AND WE DO GET CALLS DOWN THERE AND THOSE 1382 ARE AVERAGING TWELVE ABOUT 12 MINUTES.

1383 DO WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH BREVARD COUNTY IN SUPPORTING OUR JOINT.

1384 WE HAVE AN [INAUDIBLE] WITH THEM AND ACTUALLY WE'RE THE FIRST ON SCENE IN 1385 DEER RUN AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THEIR AREA.

1386 SO WE'LL BE THE FIRST UNITS THERE.

1387 THAT'S ALL FOR ME.

1388 THANK YOU.

1389 ALL RIGHT.

1390 ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

1391 WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO THANK YOU CHIEF HOOG FOR COMING OUT HERE ON YOUR 1392 TIME AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF YOUR STAFF AS WELL AS DEPUTY CHIEF FOR COMING 1393 OUT HERE.

1394 THANK YOU.

1395 THANK YOU.

1396 GOOD EVENING.

1397 GOOD NIGHT AND THEN WE HAVE THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR THIS EVENING THANK YOU 1398 FOR COMING OUT.

1399 GOOD EVENING.

1400 MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER LITTLE I AM THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR AND I HAVE WITH ME 1401 ASSISTANT DIRECTOR BOB HINKLE AND LORI EMBRY WHICH IS OUR ACCOUNTANT.

1402 PALM BAY UTILITIES THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT SERVE AS AN ENTERPRISE FUND 1403 DIRECTLY UNDER THE CITY GOVERNMENT WITH MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATION PROVIDED

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1404 THROUGH CITY STAFF.

1405 WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE SERVICE FOR WATER WASTEWATER AND RECLAIMED WATER WITHIN THE 1406 CITY THE TOWN OF MALABAR FOR WATER AND SOME MISCELLANEOUS AREAS WITHIN 1407 BREVARD COUNTY OUR CURRENT CUSTOMER COUNT IS APPROACHING 35 THOUSAND FOR 1408 POTABLE WATER 17,228 SANITARY SEWER ACCOUNTS AND 437 RECLAIMED WATER 1409 ACCOUNTS.

1410 SYSTEM INFRASTRUCTURE.

1411 I TRIED TO WHITTLE THIS LIST DOWN BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW HOW MUCH INFRASTRUCTURE 1412 WE HAVE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH A LOT OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WAS INSTALLED 1413 IN THE 60S AND 70S SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN THIS.

1414 WE HAVE TWO WATER TREATMENT PLANTS ONE OFF OF CLAREMONT STREET ONE DOWN IN BAYSIDE 1415 OFF OF OSMOSIS DRIVE AROUND THE SANDY PINES AREA WE HAVE A HUNDRED MILLION 1416 GALLON FOR STORAGE RECOVERY WELL SO IF WE NEED WATER IN A PINCH WE CAN WITHDRAWAL 1417 FROM THAT.

1418 WE HAVE 41 OVERALL WATER WELLS THAT SUPPORT THE PLANTS.

1419 WE HAVE RE PUMP STATION THAT IS LOCATED IN THE NORTH WEST PART OF THE CITY 1420 OFF OF EMERSON THAT BOOSTS THE PRESSURES.

1421 WE HAVE 615 MILES OF WATER MAIN ALMOST 3000 HYDRANTS 6000 VALVES AND 1422 105 SAMPLE POINTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AND WE US THOSE SAMPLE POINTS MONTHLY 1423 AS PART OF COMPLIANCE SAMPLING.

1424 ON THE WASTEWATER SIDE WE AGAIN HAVE TWO TREATMENT PLANTS THEY'RE ACROSS THE 1425 STREET FROM EACH OTHER SINCE THE CITY OWNED THE 1.2 MILLION GALLON 1426 WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY AND GENERAL DEVELOPMENT UTILITIES HAD THE 1427 4 MILLION GALLON WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHEN WE THE CITY BOUGHT OUT THAT USED 1428 PROPERTY IT BECAME OURS THEY'RE STILL SEPARATE THEY OPERATE SEPARATELY WE HAVE A 1429 DEEP INJECTION WELL AND PUMP STATION WHERE A LARGE PORTION OF OUR TREATED 1430 WASTEWATER IS DISPOSED AND WE HAVE A HUNDRED FIVE LIFT STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE 1431 COLLECTION SYSTEM WITH 203 MILES OF GRAVITY SEWER 45,000 MANHOLES 87 MILES 1432 OF FORCE MAIN TO CONVEY THE SEWAGE TO THE PLANTS AND WE HAVE ALMOST 400 FORCE MAIN 1433 VALVES.

1434 OUR ORG CHART IS A LITTLE LARGE SO I'M JUST GOING SUMMARIZE IT HERE.

1435 WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF THAT INCLUDES MYSELF AND BOB AND OFFICE MANAGER AND 1436 OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.

1437 INTEGRATED SYSTEM SECTION WHICH IS EIGHT INDIVIDUALS THAT HANDLE PRIMARILY 1438 COMPLIANCE MANAGEMENT OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMEN SYSTEM AND OUR LABORATORY.

1439 THE ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION DIVISION HAS 11 PLUS ONE AND I PUT THE PLUS 1440 1, 11 UP HERE ON OUR ORG CHART ONE IS FUNDED BY US SUPPORTED BY US BUT THEY 1441 SIT IN I.T.

1442 AS A DATABASE ADMINISTRATOR SO WE HANDLE ENGINEERING AN CONSTRUCTION IN HOUSE AND 1443 EVERYTHING OUTSIDE THE SYSTEM WE ALSO HAVE GIS A ENTERPRISE GIS PROGRAM 1444 WHERE WE MAINTAIN MOST OF THE GIS FOR THE CITY IT I TRICKLING OUT INTO THE 1445 OTHER DEPARTMENTS BUT WE MORE OR LESS ARE THE GATEKEEPERS OF GIS AND CITY 1446 WORKS EMMS. 1447 CITY WORKS IS A PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN MANAGE OUR ASSETS AND PUT WORK ORDERS 1448 IN AND MAINTAIN OUR ASSETS OUR OPERATIONS DIVISION HA EIGHTY THREE PEOPLE PLUS 1449 ONE COVERS ALL OF OUR TREATMENT PLANTS OUR STAFF THAT SERVICE THE COLLECTION 1450 SYSTEM AND DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM THE PLUS ONE IS A POSITION THAT IS FUNDED BY 1451 US AND SITS WITH FACILITIES AND THEY ASSIST US AS NEEDED AND THEN OUR BUSINESS 1452 OPS DIVISION EXCUSE ME WHICH HAS 35 INDIVIDUALS THAT COVER ACCOUNTING 1453 CUSTOMER SERVICE AND FIELD SERVICES THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT GO AND TURN 1454 YOUR WATER OFF IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR BILL AND THEN WE ALSO HANDLE ALL THE BILLING 1455 AND CUSTOMER SUPPORT FOR PUBLIC WORKS SOLID WASTE SECTION.

1456 THE ORG CHART IS UP THERE.

1457 OVERALL WE HAVE 150 EMPLOYEES FUNDED BY US, 148 UP ON OUR ORG CHART AND 1458 FTES ARE AT 144.54.

1459 FUNDS BRIEFLY NOW WE HAVE THE OPERATING FUND WHICH IS JUST THE DAY TO DAY 1460 OPERATION OF THE UTILITY AND THAT MONEY COMES FROM USER RATES AND FEES.

1461 OUR CONNECTION BE FUND OR OUR UTILITY IMPACT FEE FUND IS USED FOR EXPANSION FOR 1462 SYSTEMWIDE BENEFIT.

1463 AND THOSE FEES ARE COLLECTED FROM NEW CONNECTIONS RENEWAL AND 1464 REPLACEMENT FUND WHICH IS USED TO REPAIR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND IT ALSO

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1465 COMES FROM USER RATES AND FEES.

1466 THEN WE HAVE THE MAIN LINE EXTENSION FUND.

1467 AND THIS IS EXPANSION FOR LOCALIZED BENEFIT.

1468 SO YOU HAVE THE MAIN LINES GOING DOWN ALL HOGAN BABCOCK AND THEN THE MLE IS 1469 FOR GOING DOWN THE SIDE STREETS AS YOU GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

1470 AND THEN WE HAVE MISCELLANEOUS FUNDS FOR BONDS SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS 1471 AND THEN A FUND THAT HAS IS DEDICATED FOR SRF FUNDS.

1472 RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE BONDS TWO SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND NO SRF ON 1473 THE BOOKS.

1474 OUR BUDGET SUMMARY FOR FISCAL YEAR 19 FOR REVENUES WE ANTICIPATED HAVING 1475 THROUGH THE APPROVED BUDGET 45 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF REVENUE.

1476 AND AS YOU SEE ON THE CHART 69 PERCENT OF THAT IS JUST OPERATING.

1477 FOR EXPENDITURES, THE ESTIMATE IN THE APPROVED BUDGET WAS CLOSE TO 49 1478 MILLION DOLLARS.

1479 AGAIN.

1480 VAST MAJORITY 68 PERCENT OF THAT BUDGET WAS DEDICATED TO OPERATIONS MAINTAINING 1481 THE SYSTEM.

1482 OUR BUDGET PRIORITIES FOR WATER AND FISCAL YEAR '20.

1483 BROKEN IT DOWN BY PLANTS AND THEN BY THE SYSTEM AND OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT ON 1484 CLAREMONT.

1485 THE PLANT WAS BUILT IN THE 60S AND EXPANDED UP INTO TH 80S.

1486 LIME SILO REPLACEMENT 375 THOUSAND DOLLARS.

1487 THESE ARE ORIGINAL TO THE PLANTS AND THEIR METAL STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE 1488 REPLACED BROUGHT UP TO CODE.

1489 WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR HIGH SERVICE PUMPS ACTUALLY PUMP THE 1490 WATER INTO THE SYSTEM.

1491 IT WAS FUNDED IN FISCAL YEAR 19 BUT THROUGH THE STRENGTH OF THE ECONOMY WE 1492 ANTICIPATE NEEDING MORE MONEY FOR CONSTRUCTION THROUGHOUT THE DISTRIBUTION 1493 SYSTEM.

1494 THE NASH FREE PUMP STATION NCC REPLACING MOTOR CONTRO CENTERS 690 THOUSAND 1495 DOLLARS TO REPLACE THAT ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT'S ORIGINAL TO THE REPUMP STATION.

1496 WE ALSO HAVE MADE A PRIORITY OF LOOKING AT 3,750 FEET OF UNDERSIZED PIPES IN 1497 THE SYSTEM AND IT'S GENERALLY THE OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY.

1498 TURKEY CREEK AREA THEY THAT'S ADEQUATE FOR TAKING A SHOWER DOING YOUR DISHES 1499 BUT IF YOU HAVE A FIRE EVENT PRESSURES DROP.

1500 SO WE'RE LOOKING TO START MAKING REPLACEMENTS WITHIN THOSE AREAS AND THEN WE'VE 1501 ALSO EARMARKED MONEY TO REPLACE FIRE HYDRANTS AND VALVES AND WE'RE 1502 ESTIMATING ABOUT 321,000 DOLLARS TO MAKE THOSE REPLACEMENTS PRIORITIES FOR 1503 THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM IN FISCAL YEAR 20 AT THE WASTEWATER PLANTS AT OFF 1504 OF CLAREMONT.

1505 WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE CLARIFICATION OF EFFLUENT OR OF WASTEWATER AS IT 1506 GOES THROUGH THE SYSTEM WE HAVE ONE STRUCTURE IF IT GOES DOWN WE'RE GOING INTO 1507 HOLDING PONDS AND THIS SECONDARY CLARIFIER NUMBER TWO WILL GIVE US REDUNDANCY 1508 SO IF ONE SYSTEM FAILS WE HAVE A BACKUP IN PLACE AND WE CAN MAKE THE REPAIR TO 1509 THE ONE WITHOUT IMPACTING THE SYSTEM WHATSOEVER.

1510 AND THAT'S A LITTLE OVER TWO MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO CONSTRUCT THAT'S BRAND NEW 1511 STRUCTURE.

1512 WE ALSO HAVE PUT A PRIORITY ON LINING OUR PONDS WHERE IT RIGHT NOW IF WE HAVE AN 1513 EMERGENCY THESE PONDS ARE UNLINED.

1514 WE BELIEVE THEY THROUGH [INAUDIBLE] WE LOOK THROUGH THE DESIGN AND BELIEVE THAT 1515 THEY HAVE A CLAY LAYER THAT KEEPS THE WATER IN THEM BUT BY BUILDING THIS LINING 1516 SYSTEM IN IT PROTECTS OUR GROUNDWATER RESOURCES AND WE'RE ABLE TO CLEAN OUT THE 1517 PONDS RIGHT NOW THERE ARE EARTHEN WITH GRASS GROW AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN 1518 AND THEN ACID IZATION OF THE DEEP INJECTION WELL.

1519 RECENTLY WE'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT ABOUT ILLICIT DISCHARGES TO THE TURKEY 1520 CREEK AND BY ACIDIZING THE WELL WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP OUR DEEP INJECTION WELL AT 1521 OPTIMAL CAPACITY TO ENSURE THAT WE PUMP EVERY DROP DOWN THE WELL WITHIN THE 1522 COLLECTION SYSTEM.

1523 WE'RE LOOKING AT LINING 10000 FEET OF SANITARY SEWER MAKING TEN MAJOR 1524 MANHOLE REPAIRS REHABBING LIFT STATION 93 WHICH IS IN THE WATER STONE AREA IT'S 1525 THE MASTER PUMP STATION.

1526 AND THEN LOOKING AT SIX LIFT STATIONS AND UPGRADING THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS AND THEN 1527 THE [INAUDIBLE] SYSTEM THE SYSTEM THAT COMMUNICATES TO US THE STATS AND THE STATUS 1528 OF THE LIFT STATIONS 20 OF THOSE FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 AND PROJECTS THAT ARE NOT 1529 CALLED OUT IN OUR BUDGETS BECAUSE THEY ARE EITHER UNFUNDED OR THEY HAVE NOT

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1530 BEEN EARMARKED YET THROUGH OUTSIDE FUNDS WE HAVE PLANS TO SUBMIT TO FLORIDA 1531 DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION TO THE CLEAN WATER STATE REVOLVING FUND 1532 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO REQUEST 30 MILLION DOLLARS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW 1533 WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TO BE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE WATER PLANT THAT IS IN 1534 BAYSIDE LAKES AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LATER IN THE YEAR GOING TO REQUEST TWELVE 1535 MILLION DOLLARS TO EXPAND THE EXISTING WATER SYSTEM TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN KEEP 1536 UP WITH THE PROPOSED DEMAND.

1537 THEN WE ALSO HAVE MONEY WE RECEIVED TWO YEARS AGO FUNDING FROM THE SAVE OUR 1538 INDIAN RIVER LAGOON FUND 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS TO TREAT OUR RECLAIMED WATER TO 1539 A HIGHER STANDARD TO MOVE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS AS WE'VE GONE ALONG THROUGH THE 1540 DESIGN.

1541 THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES AND WITH THE BOOMING ECONOMY THE COST HAS 1542 INCREASED RAPIDLY ON US AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY TO 1543 REQUEST ADDITIONAL FUNDING AS LONG AS WE GET THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WE'LL BE 1544 ABLE TO PUT THAT C ONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN PLACE.

1545 AND THE LAST ITEM IN THE PLAN FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON THERE IS THERE ARE 1546 TWO LOCATIONS WITHIN TURKEY CREEK THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT ARE ON 1547 SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND WE'RE ABOUT TO LOOK AT PUTTING COLLECTION SYSTEMS. 1548 IT'LL TAKE APPROXIMATELY 450 HOMES OFF OF SEPTIC PUT THEM ON TO CITY SEWER.

1549 ANY QUESTIONS? 1550 ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE FROM THE BOARD.

1551 I'M SORRY.

1552 WHY DON'T WE LET CHARLES START PLEASE.

1553 I WAS JUST WONDERING SO IS THE DEPARTMENT I GUESS SELF-FUNDED FROM AN 1554 OPERATING STANDPOINT BUT NEED SOME CITY FUNDS FOR CAPITAL.

1555 NO WE'RE COMPLETELY SELF-SUFFICIENT.

1556 OK.

1557 HOW MUCH DO DOES THE UTILITY CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COST ALLOCATION.

1558 I BELIEVE IT'S 1.2 MILLION.

1559 THE SECOND QUESTION DEALS WITH CAPACITY.

1560 SO ON YOUR WATER SIDE OF THE HOUSE YOU HAVE TWO PLANTS TWO PLANTS.

1561 ARE THEY AT FULL CAPACITY.

1562 MEANING ARE THEY DISTRIBUTING AS MUCH WATER AS THEY CAN AT THE MOMENT.

1563 NO.

1564 AS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECTED DEVELOPMENT KICKS IN WE WILL GET CLOSE TO THE 1565 THRESHOLD WHERE SO OUR WATER PLANT IS PERMITTED FOR 10 MILLION GALLON ARE THE 1566 WATER PLANT ON CLAREMONT 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

1567 AND AS A SURFICIAL PLANT IT SOFTENS THE WATER AND WE HAVE CONSUMPTIVE USE PERMIT 1568 LIMITATIONS IMPOSED BY ST. JOHN'S WHERE WE CAN ONLY TAKE UP TO I BELIEVE 1569 ITS 4.6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY FROM THE GROUND ON AVERAGE.

1570 AND THEN OUR SOUTH REGIONAL PLANT HAS 4 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY 1571 AND WE'RE RUNNING THAT ONE AT 100 PERCENT CAPACITY.

1572 1573 THAT'S THE OSMOSIS DRIVE DOWN IN BAYSIDE.

1574 THAT'S AT 100 PERCENT.

1575 THAT ONE WE RUN AT 100 PERCENT.

1576 SO WE TAKE THE DEMAND OFF OF THE SURFICIAL WELLS OFF OF THE NORTH PLANT AND WE 1577 BOOST IT WITH THE SOUTH PLANT.

1578 BUT BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM ON AN AVERAGE BASIS WE CAN PUT OUT ABOUT 8.6 MILLION 1579 GALLONS PER DAY.

1580 AND IF YOU BELIEVE THE NUMBERS FOR GROWTH WE'RE GOING TO EAT AWAY AT THAT 1581 WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

1582 SO WE HAVE TO START PLANNING NOW TO EXPAND.

1583 SO THAT'S THE NEED FOR THE 30 MILLION DOLLAR.

1584 THE 30 MILLION DOLLAR.

1585 YEAH.

1586 PRIMARILY THE 30 MILLION DOLLAR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS NEEDED FOR OTHER 1587 DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTHEAST.

1588 AND THE PROBLEM IS YOU HAVE THE SOUTHEAST AND OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WE HAVE 1589 FORCED MAIN ON MARA LOMA WHICH IS A WATER STONE ON BABCOCK STREET.

1590 SO THEY PUMP INTO THE COLLECTION SYSTEM.

1591 THE SEWAGE HAS TO PUMP ALMOST 12 MILES BEFORE IT GETS TO OUR WASTEWATER 1592 TREATMENT PLANT.

1593 BY PUTTING THE PLANT AND THAT CAUSES ISSUES OPERATIONAL ISSUES WITH 1594 PRESSURES CONVEYANCE.

1595 YEAH.

1596 SO NOW WHEN WE PUT THE PLANT IN THE SOUTHEAST PAR OF THE CITY WE CAN DIVERT 1597 ALL OF THAT FLOW MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT FLOW THAT'S GOING TO THE REST OF THE SYSTEM.

1598 SO THERE WILL BE SYSTEM WIDE BENEFIT BUT THE IMMEDIATE NEED FOR THAT 1599 PLANT IS TO BE READY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GONNA OCCUR IN THE SOUTHEAST PART

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1600 OF THE CITY.

1601 WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THAT DEVELOPMENT 1602 THE LATEST ESTIMATES WE HAVE ABOUT TWO YEARS AND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT 1603 WILL BE IF ALL GOES WELL THROUGH ALL THE STEPS WE HAVE TO TAKE TO GET THE 1604 REVOLVING FUND DOLLARS SUMMER 2021.

1605 AND WE SHOULD BE AT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AND READY TO USE THE PLANT.

1606 SO I'M IMAGINING WITH THAT ANTICIPATED GROWTH THERE ARE CONNECTION FEES.

1607 YES.

1608 THAT WILL BE COLLECTED AND THAT WILL BE THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDING TO REPAY THE 1609 STATE REVOLVING.

1610 THAT WILL BE PART OF THE SOURCE.

1611 YES.

1612 THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTION SO I.

1613 ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

1614 I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL AS THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR.

1615 BUT IT'LL PROBABLY BE ANSWERED BY LISA.

1616 SO ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

1617 ARE THEY GOING TO HELP ENSURE OUR CITY AGAINST BASICALLY THE CONCERN THAT 1618 WE ALL HAD WITH THE LEAKAGE INTO THE LAGOON AND THE NE CONCERNS ABOUT YOU KNOW THE 1619 EXPENSE AND THE TAXES.

1620 YES.

1621 THAT WOULD BE THE HOUSE THAT WAS THE TWO 1622 STATE HOUSE BILL.

1623 I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THE SYSTEM GROWS ANY FURTHER THIS IS ACTUALLY EXPANSION 1624 FOR YOUR USE IT DOESN'T MAKE THE WATER PLANT OR THE WASTEWATER PLANT ANY BIGGER 1625 THOSE EXPANSION WOULD BE COMING TO YOUR USER FEES AND UNLESS AND MR. LITTLE HAS A 1626 USER RATE STUDY TO BRING FORTH AS WELL.

1627 SO YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS.

1628 I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO DEFER TO MR. LITTLE BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE JUST 1629 IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING BECAUSE.

1630 SO MR. LITTLE THEN THE BIG CONCERN AT LEAST FOR ME WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS 1631 BILL WAS THE IMPACT TO OUR CITY.

1632 GOD FORBID.

1633 I MEAN WE HAVE A HURRICANE WE I MEAN WE ARE NOW LOOKING AT POSSIBLE.

1634 YES GO AHEAD.

1635 LET ME JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET LOST YOU'RE GOING TO SPIRAL.

1636 YEAH.

1637 I COULD SEE IT.

1638 REMEMBER THAT WE ONLY HAD TO DURING ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE HAD WE ONLY HAD 1639 TWO EVENTS THAT ACTUALLY SPILLED INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COMPARED TO OUR 1640 NEIGHBORS TO OUR NORTH AND I DON'T WANT TO THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS HERE.

1641 BUT WE DID REALLY REALLY WELL.

1642 OUR FACILITY IN THE NORTH ACTUALLY BRAND FOR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG EIGHT DAYS 1643 AND ON THE NINTH DAY THEY SAID ALL WE'RE GONNA GET RELIEF WERE LIKE GREAT 1644 BECAUSE THE PUMPING IT COULDN'T KEEP UP IT WAS GOING REALLY WELL.

1645 BUT ON THE NINTH DAY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO DRY UP AND WE CONTINUE TO GET RAIN 1646 AND YOUR YOUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM IS OPEN IT COLLECTS RAINWATER.

1647 SO A LOT OF WHAT WE HAD WAS A LOT OF RAINWATER.

1648 IT OVERFLOWED.

1649 SO WE.

1650 SO WE DO WELL LIKE THEY OPERATE AT A VERY OPTIMUM LIKE THEY PUMP AS MUCH AS 1651 THEY CAN WHILE IT'S RAINING IN YOUR GETTING COLLECTING WATER IN THERE AND THEY'RE 1652 DUMPING IT SO WELL.

1653 1654 SECONDARY EFFLUENT PLUS RAINWATER SO IT'S HEAVILY POLLUTED WHEN IT WAS 1655 GOING INTO THE TURKEY CREEK.

1656 1657 PERMIT DOES NOT ALLOW IT.

1658 1659 THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS THERE'S THREE OR FOUR THA WERE CONNECTED THAT.

1660 1661 ABSOLUTELY.

1662 SO WE ARE WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR SYSTEM FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT NEEDS OR 1663 ELSE WE'RE WE NEED OUR DEVELOPMENT TO COME BECAUSE WE NEED THAT BALANCE SMART 1664 COMMERCIAL GROWTH THAT WE ALL WANT TO DIVERSE OUR TAXING TAX BASE FROM 1665 JUST RESIDENTIAL TO YOU KNOW AUGMENTED WITH OUR DIVERSIFIED POOL FOR 1666 COMMERCIAL SO WE DO NEED THAT.

1667 AND CHRIS AND I AND SUZANNE HAVE SAID AND VERY MANY OF THESE DEVELOPMENT READINGS 1668 TO FUND THE STATE REVOLVING FUND WE WOULDN'T TAKE THAT RISK OR NOT.

1669 IT'S LOOKING VERY FAVORABLE TO US.

1670 SO THIS IS WHY IT'S NOT IN HIS BUDGET BUT IT ISN'T A PRIORITY THAT WE WILL BE 1671 BRINGING IT FORWARD THEN WE CAN LOOK AT OUR WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE ON USER RATES TO 1672 SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO EXPAND THE EXISTING SYSTEM TO HELP IT THROUGH THESE.

1673 EITHER WAY WE IMPROVE OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM OR WE PAY A HUGE FINE IS WHAT I SEE 1674 IN BOTH OF THOSE.

1675 EITHER WAY.

1676 SO FOR ME.

1677 1678 FABULOUS.

1679 I LOVE WHEN WE ALL AGREE.

1680 1681 RIGHT.

1682 SO YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU HAVE SEVERAL AMOUNTS OF DEBT HELD THERE.

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1683 WHAT'S THE TERMS ON THOSE AND WHEN DO THEY EXPIRE.

1684 SO FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK.

1685 WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THAT REALLY CLOSELY.

1686 WE HAVE BETWEEN ALL OF THEM.

1687 IT'S A LITTLE OVER SEVEN MILLION.

1688 YEAH.

1689 SEVEN MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE PER YEAR IN 2023 IT DROPS DOWN TO A LITTLE OVER 1690 2 MILLION.

1691 I MEAN SOME OF THE DEBT WE'RE STILL CARRYING WHERE WE ACQUIRED THE SYSTEM 1692 FROM GDU.

1693 SO WE'RE STILL PAYING THAT DEBT AND WE'RE ALMOST DONE.

1694 SO IN LESS THAN SIX YEARS YOU WILL BE IN A BETTER POSITION FINANCIALLY BUT WE 1695 HAVE SIX YEARS TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

1696 THE QUESTION IS NO.

1697 I MEAN IN MY OPINION WE DON'T HAVE THE PROBLEM THAT OTHER UTILITIES HAVE.

1698 I MEAN THE TWO.

1699 ONE WAS A HURRICANE EVENT.

1700 ONE WAS A HUNDRED YEAR STORMS EVERY DAY FOR ALMOST TWO WEEKS AND THEN THE 1701 ACTUAL SEWAGE DISCHARGES THEY THERE WERE A COUPLE OF GRAND TOTAL IN FIVE YEARS A 1702 HUNDRED THOUSAND GALLONS.

1703 BUT HONESTLY THE WATER LEVELS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR CITY ARE MUCH HIGHER 1704 THAN THEY HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

1705 I MEAN IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE CANALS THE CULVERTS AND THE AMOUNT OF WATER I MEAN 1706 IT'S LIKE THE WATER IS JUST GOING TO GO AWAY.

1707 I MEAN AND EVENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN.

1708 IT'S GOING TO RAIN.

1709 I MEAN FOR US TO ANTICIPATE THAT FLORIDA IS SUDDENLY GOING TO BECOME A DRY 1710 STATE.

1711 NO WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DRY STATE.

1712 REMEMBER WE ALSO HAVE THE STORMWATER PROGRAM AS WELL SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE 1713 WATER TO FLOW.

1714 BUT YOU DO HAVE YOU ARE SURROUNDED BY WATER THE WHOLE STATE.

1715 EXACTLY.

1716 SO YOU KNOW THE QUESTION I HAVE IS ARE WE PLANNING EFFECTIVELY FOR THE 1717 CONCERNS OF THE GROWTH AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT 1718 AN EXTRA BILL THAT NOBODY ANTICIPATES.

1719 MR. 1720 LITTLE HAS A LARGE MASTER PLAN I KNOW HE DOESN'T CARRY WITH HIM OFTEN BUT 1721 WHEN HE DOES IT'S IT'S FOUR INCHES.

1722 AND SO IT'S AND IT'S UPDATED IT'S A LIVING DOCUMENT AS THE POLICE 1723 DEPARTMENT HAVE A LIVING DOCUMENT THEY KIND OF AND ALL DEPARTMENTS HAVE LIVING 1724 DOCUMENTS THAT THEY LIVE THEY THEY HAD THEIR STRATEGIC PLANS THEY ARE 1725 THERE THEY'RE ADEQUATE BUT THEY CAN ALWAYS BE LOOKED AT AND IMPROVED EVERY YEAR 1726 THAT WE DO BUDGET AND WE HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS.

1727 SO I YES I MEAN WE'RE SPENDING ROUGHLY A MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO TRY TO 1728 TIGHTEN UP THE SYSTEM.

1729 AGAIN THE ESTIMATION OF THE DEEP WELL IS KEY FOR ME BECAUSE AS LONG AS SO THERE 1730 IS A VERY SMALL AMOUNT SUSPENDED SOLIDS IN OUR SECONDARY EFFLUENT IT GETS 1731 PUMPED DOWN TO THE FORMATION OVER TWO THOUSAND FEET DEEP.

1732 OVER TIME IT WILL START FOULING THE FORMATION AND BY ACIDIZING IT WE ARE ABLE 1733 TO CLEAN CLEAN OUT THE PARTICULATES AND PUMP THEM OUT INTO OUR HOLDING POND 1734 AND INCREASE THE CAPACITY OR BRING IT BACK TO WHERE IT ONCE WAS.

1735 AND WE'RE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE TO AVOID MILLIONS OF GALLONS GOING OUT INTO THE 1736 TURKEY CREEK ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

1737 JUST REAL QUICK.

1738 I KNOW YOU SPOKE A LOT ABOUT THE SOUTHERN END.

1739 WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING OUT OFF THE HERITAGE PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT 1740 OFF THERE.

1741 ON NORTHWEST PALM VISTA.

1742 SO WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION WE NEED.

1743 WE NEED THE LINES GOING UP THE PARKWAY UP TO WHERE EMERSON CONNECTS TO IT AND 1744 THAT IS FOR THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT.

1745 THAT'S PART OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT CAPACITY WILL BE SPLIT SOME OF IT WILL 1746 EVENTUALLY BE SUPPLIED BY THE WASTEWATER PLAN THE SOUTH THE WATER PLAN THE 1747 SOUTH AND THEN THE OTHER PLANTS.

1748 SO IT'S LIKE A COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN THEM ALL BUT WE AND WE HAVE THAT IN OUR 1749 MASTER PLANS AS WELL.

1750 AND WE UPDATE OUR PLANS EVERY FIVE YEARS.

1751 LAST UPDATE WAS IN 2017 RECOMMEND THAT DURING THE FALL WHEN IS OUR SLOW TIME 1752 AS A BOARD WE WOULD ENTERTAIN HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THOSE LONG RANGE 1753 PLANNING DEPARTMENTS LIKE UTILITIES PUBLIC WORKS FACILITIES AND LOOK AT 1754 THEIR LONG RANGE PLANNING TO HELP INFORM US AS TO HOW TO BETTER HELP YOU IN MAKING 1755 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS THAT WILL BE HERE IN 2021.

1756 SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION I'M MAKING TO THE BOARD I HOPE THEY WOULD SUPPORT ME 1757 IN THAT EFFORT.

1758 CAN I GET A MOTION.

1759 DO I GET A SECOND.

1760 DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION? 1761 I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE CONDUCT LONG RANGE PLANNING DISCUSSIONS WITH

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1762 DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS UTILITIES, FACILITIES.

1763 ALSO PUBLIC WORKS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR MASTER PLAN IS AND INFORM US TO 1764 BETTER HELP THEM IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

1765 WE GET A SECOND ON THAT MOTION.

1766 DO WE WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION.

1767 I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS BECAUSE I JUST I JUST WANT TO ASK QUICKLY IS 1768 THIS SOMETHING THAT WE EVEN REALLY NEED TO MAKE A MOTION ON OR IS IT JUST 1769 SOMETHING WE MAKE NOTES THAT WE NEED TO ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA ITEM COME THIS 1770 MONTH.

1771 I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO ASK.

1772 I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT WE DO DO THAT OR WE PUT IT IN PLACE.

1773 I'M OPEN EITHER WAY.

1774 I JUST I JUST WANT TO KNOW.

1775 I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF IT THE IDEA THAT I HAVE AND I DON'T WANT TO FORGET 1776 ABOUT IT.

1777 SO YOU WANT TO DOCUMENT SO IT MOVE FORWARD.

1778 SO WHAT WOULD BE THE WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE METHOD FOR THIS.

1779 I MEAN HE COULD.

1780 I BELIEVE THE ITEM WOULD NEED TO BE ON THE AGENDA TOOK ME OPEN FOR PUBLIC 1781 COMMENT FOR THE NEXT MEETINGS 1782 SO WE CAN MAKE A NOTE FOR BOARD MOVING FORWARD ON THE NEXT AGENDA THAT WE HAVE 1783 THAT ITEM ON THERE FOR ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.

1784 I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

1785 1786 THERE'S NO DISCUSSION THERE'S NO.

1787 IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO IT.

1788 CORRECT.

1789 RIGHT.

1790 DIRECT YOUR BOARD SECRETARY TO MAKE NOTE UP FOR YOUR AGENDA TO BRING 1791 FORTH TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND DISCUSSION.

1792 THANK YOU.

1793 ANYTHING ELSE WITH THAT.

1794 THANK YOU MR. LITTLE.

1795 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

1796 APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

1797 AND WITH THAT I'M GOING TO SAY IF THERE ISN'T ANYTHING ELSE TO BE DISCUSSED.

1798 WELL I DID HAVE A QUESTION YOU ALLUDED TO IT.

1799 CITY MANAGER LISA END OF THE MEETING LAST TIME.

1800 COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I POSED TO YOU.

1801 I WONDERED IF YOU HAVE ANY LIGHT TO SHED ON THAT.

1802 I DO NOT TONIGHT.

1803 I'M SORRY NOT TONIGHT.

1804 OK.

1805 AND I DO WANT TO REMIND MY PEERS UP HERE THAT ON OUR SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW OUR NEXT 1806 BUDGET MEETING IS THE 19TH OF JUNE AND THE DAY BEFORE IS THE MID-YEAR BUDGET 1807 REVIEW WORKSHOP.

1808 IT IS ON MY SCHEDULE RIGHT NOW TO BE IN HERE AS WELL.

1809 THAT'S THE 18TH AND 19TH 18TH MID-YEAR REVIEW BUDGE WORKSHOP.

1810 AND I KNOW IT'S A BIG TIME IMPORTANT DAY JUNE 1 FOR US AS IT'S ESTIMATED TAXABLE 1811 PROPERTY VALUE DUE FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS.

1812 THAT'S DEFINITELY A BIG STEP TO ANSWERING SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS.

1813 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THE CHALLENGE OUT TO MY PEERS UP HERE THAT WE ALL NEED TO 1814 BE LOOKING AT ALL THESE PROPOSALS ALL THESE ASKS THE BIG ASKS IN OUR WAY EVEN 1815 THOUGH WE'RE NOT WORKING WITH A NUMBER YET OF A TOTAL QUANTITY START IN OUR 1816 HEAD START LOOKING AT MORE IMPORTANT THINGS WHAT'S VALUES WHAT'S PRIORITIES.

1817 BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COME TO A CONSENSUS IN A MEETING OR TWO MAYBE THREE FOR OUR 1818 RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL DEFINITELY NEED TO BE 1819 LOOKING AT.

1820 AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL MEETING AFTER OUR NEXT ONE.

1821 SO IT'S JUST THINGS AS I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING AHEA AT OUR CALENDAR.

1822 JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL KEEPING UP WITH THAT THOUGHT AND KEEPING UP 1823 AND NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.

1824 IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO LOOK BACK AND START REVIEWING.

1825 SO OUR NEXT.

1826 ON JUNE 19TH AND WITH THE WORKSHOP IS THERE.

1827 I MEAN THAT'S IN THE EVENING ON THE ON THE 18TH CORRECT.

1828 YES SO WE'LL DISCUSS ALL OF THAT AT THE MEETING ON THE 19TH.

1829 WHAT GOES ON IN THE WORKSHOP.

1830 CORRECT.

1831 ISN'T THAT THE IDEA.

1832 AND WHAT WE'VE ACTUALLY HEARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS FROM THE 1833 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.

1834 CORRECT.

1835 SO WE WILL MEET ON THE 19TH.

1836 ARE THERE ANY MORE COMMENTS? 1837 1838 THOSE UM POWERPOINT BECAUSE SOME ARE EARLIER THAN OTHERS LIKE THE ONES YOU SAW 1839 THIS WEEK.

1840 THEIR BUDGETS WERE ALL THEIR FORMS FOR ASKS WERE DUE TODAY FROM ALL THE 1841 DEPARTMENTS.

1842 I HAVEN'T SEEN ALL OF THEM THEY'VE JUST BEEN SUBMITTED TO BUDGET BUDGETS DOING A 1843 CHECK MAKING SURE BUT WITH THE YEAR END ESTIMATES IN AND FILL OUT FORMS AND THE 1844 PAYROLL PROJECTIONS LOOKING GOOD THEY'RE DOING ALL THEIR CROSS CHECKS.

1845 SO I CAN CERTAINLY DO YOU WANT 100 PERCENT OF THE ASKS OR THE ONES I'M GOING 1846 TO PRESENT.

1847 I'M JUST KIDDING.

1848 I MEAN I WILL GIVE YOU ALL OF THEM, I WILL GIVE YOU ALL OF THEM.

1849 WHATEVER WAS SUBMITTED FROM THE DEPARTMENTS I'LL FORWARD ON.

1850 1851 YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

1852 THAT'S THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS BOARD.

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1853 SO I WILL WHEN WE HAVE THAT COLLECTED UM AS A LINE ITEM WITH DOLLARS AND VALUES AND 1854 WE'VE REVIEWED THOSE I WILL FORWARD THEM TO ALL OF YOU ON THE BOARD.

1855 THANK YOU.

1856 APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.

1857 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE.

1858 AND IF WE COULD.

1859 THAT WHEN THAT JUNE 1ST WHEN THAT NUMBER COMES ON THE PROPERTY FROM THE 1860 PROPERTY APPRAISER.

1861 CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT SENT OUT TO ALL OF US.

1862 ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

1863 AND MORE SPECIFICALLY THE DELTA VALUE.

1864 THE DELTA VALUE AND I BELIEVE YOUR TWO ITEMS AND JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I 1865 HAVE THOSE TWO ITEMS. 1866 ONE IS THE COMMERCIAL VALUE ESTIMATE.

1867 WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE SIR.

1868 THE DELTA VALUE.

1869 JUST ON THE BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 1870 PROPOSED ASK.

1871 OKAY.

1872 YES.

1873 WITH ADHERING TO THAT.

1874 WITHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION VALUE.

1875 I GOT YOU.

1876 THANK YOU.

1877 MADAM CHAIR ON JUNE 19TH I WILL BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

1878 I'M GONNA BE TRAVELING AND IN JULY AND AUGUST I'M DOING QUITE A BIT OF TRAVELING 1879 I'M I WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE BY TELEPHONE IN JULY AND AUGUST.

1880 BUT IS THERE A WAY TO DO WEBEX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

1881 IF WE WANT TO SEE A PRESENTATION IN ADDITION TO THE PHONE.

1882 WHEREVER I'LL BE I'LL HAVE MY COMPUTER WITH ME.

1883 IN GENERAL WE DID NOT DO A WEBEX OR A SKYPE AND I WOULD DEFER TO THAT CITY 1884 CLERK WE CAN CHECK FOR YOU AND CLARIFY THAT.

1885 IT'S USUALLY A CALL IN AND WE WILL PROVIDE THE PRESENTATION MATERIALS SO TO 1886 USE YOU CAN AT LEAST FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE MICROPHONES AND AS LONG AS EVERYBODY'S 1887 USING THEIR MICROPHONES APPROPRIATELY YOU SHOULD B ABLE TO HEAR THE MEETING IF 1888 NOT WE WILL.

1889 WE WILL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND I WILL I WILL CHECK WITH THE CITY CLERK.

1890 OKAY THAT'S FINE THANK YOU.

1891 IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE.

1892 I'M ADJOURNING THE MEETING. 1893 01:56:49,435 CALL IT A MEETING.



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