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PALM BAY CITY GOVERNMENT.[CALL TO ORDER]
AWESOME. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD MEETING.[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
AFTER ROLL CALL. BINGO.SO, MOVING TO ADOPTION OF MINUTES.
ANYONE WANT TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FOR THE MEETING? I'LL MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.
PERFECT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. AWESOME. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY, SO MOVING FORWARD TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
NO, NO. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I GUESS THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THE TIME.
[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS]
SO FROM THERE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO OLD UNFINISHED BUSINESS.THE ADSENSE AT PALM BAY, FORMERLY KNOWN AS CRYSTAL PALACE, 1881 PALM BAY ROAD.
EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
YEAH. YOU GOING HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THE MIC.
AFTER RECEIVING THEIR EMAIL, THEY SAID AS PER THEIR CONVERSATION, THEY WANTED TO THANK THE CITY FOR CONSIDERING THEIR PROJECT, BUT THEY EXPRESSED THAT THEY NO LONGER WERE SEEKING FUNDING FROM THE CITY FOR THE ESSENCE OF PALM BAY PHASE ONE.
THEIR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON MAKING THAT PROJECT A REALITY, AND TO MAKE IT, OR TO TURN IT INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING PROJECT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.
THEY THANKED US FOR OUR TIME AND SUPPORT THAT THEY RECEIVED.
AWESOME. DOES ANYONE FROM THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS TOPIC? I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. THEY ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CRYSTAL PALACE THAT THEY DID PRESENT THERE.
CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT JUST THEY'RE NOT WITHDRAWING THEIR PROJECT.
CORRECT. JUST THEIR SHIP FUNDING APPLICATION.
CORRECT. THEY'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AVENUES, POTENTIALLY WORKFORCE HOUSING.
THEY'RE ALSO TALKING TO FIT ABOUT DORMS. SO THEY ARE PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF DETERMINING WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT LOW INCOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING WORKFORCE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF HOUSING.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DOING APPLYING FOR THE SHIP FUNDS.
I ACTUALLY RECENTLY SAW ONE AT THAT.
CAN I EMAIL THAT TO YOU GUYS FOR YOU TO REVIEW? BECAUSE IT ASKED A LOT OF THE SAME QUESTIONS I WAS ASKING OF THEM.
SO I WILL FIND THAT AND SEND IT TO YOU GUYS.
AND I ALSO WANT TO MENTION REBECCA LAST MEETING HAD SENT US THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
AND WHEN WE GET TO THE CDBG PRIORITIES IN THE NEXT RFP, THEIR APPLICATION WILL BE IN THERE AS WELL.
SO WE'LL USE THAT TEMPLATE AS WELL.
BUT I'LL CERTAINLY LOOK AT YOURS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I CAN USE FROM.
OKAY. THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK YOU.
IS THE IS THIS TEMPLATE APPLICATION GOING TO BE LOOKED AT BY EVERYBODY PRIOR TO A FINAL FORM? I'M JUST ASKING IF INPUT COULD BE GAINED AS A WHOLE FROM THE WANTING IT TO COME TO THE BOARD SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SEE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU.
AWESOME. SO, UM, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
AND DO Y'ALL NEED ANYTHING FROM THE BOARD? LIKE A MOTION? OH, TESTING.
HELLO? HELLO. YEAH, I THINK JUST THE, UM, PROBABLY, LIKE THE FREQUENCY OF THE GAME.
PROBABLY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADJUST LATER, BUT.
REALLY? REALLY? YEAH. I'M HERE.
YOU CAN HEAR US. YOU CAN HEAR.
ALL RIGHT, SO IF THEY CAN SPEAK INTO THE MIC A LITTLE MORE CLEARER.
IT SOUNDS LIKE SEVERAL PEOPLE ARE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE MIC AND THE OTHERS ARE CLOSER.
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OKAY. THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.[NEW BUSINESS]
SO MOVING FORWARD TO NEW BUSINESS.SO UNDER NEW BUSINESS WE HAVE REVIEW OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE REPORT.
VICE CHAIR WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS NEW BUSINESS.
PERFECT. YOU CAN CALL THIS PERSON AND HE CAN ASK HIS.
IF YOU MAY, COULD I INTRODUCE THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TAKE THE PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST SO HE'S AWARE OF WHAT THE ITEM IS? OH YES, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.
OKAY, SO THIS IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCENTIVE STRATEGIES REPORT.
EACH AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE MUST NOW ANNUALLY REVIEW THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ESTABLISHED POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ORDINANCES, LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, SPECIFIC ACTIONS OR INITIATIVES TO ENCOURAGE OR FACILITATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE ARE 11 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY SECTION 420.90764 IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES, AND I'LL JUST BRIEFLY READ THROUGH THEM, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE WILL GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
AND THEN I'LL ALSO ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE PROCESS OF APPROVALS OF DEVELOPMENT ORDERS OR PERMITS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS, AS EXPEDITED TO A GREATER DEGREE THAN OTHER PROJECTS AS PROVIDED IN FLORIDA STATUTES 163 317763.
THE THIRD ONE IS THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBILITY AND DENSITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THEN THERE'S THE MODIFICATION OF STREET IMPROVEMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THE NINTH ONE IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROCESS BY WHICH A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS BEFORE ADOPTION POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS, OR PLAN PROVISIONS THAT INCREASE THE COST OF HOUSING.
THE 10TH STRATEGY IS THE PREPARATION OF A PRINTED INVENTORY OF LOCALLY OWNED PUBLIC LAND SUITABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THE LAST ONE IS THE SUPPORT OF DEVELOPMENT NEAR TRANSPORTATION HUBS AND MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.
THESE ARE ONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER TONIGHT AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON.
AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH, NANCY.
SO MOVING FORWARD TO THIS PUBLIC COMMENT BY SPENCER.
YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, SPENCE, I.
OH. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE MIC, PLEASE, SIR? IT'S FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ONLINE SO THEY CAN LISTEN TO IT AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
GOOD EVENING. WELL, YEAH, THAT MAKES PERFECT.
GO AHEAD, SIR. LONG TIME PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION BASED ON SOMETHING I EMAILED ON THIS CHANNEL ABOUT IN, I GUESS, LAND DEVELOPMENT SOMETIME BACK, AND SHE JUST SPOKE TO IT SOMEWHAT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM MISS CHANDLER WAS THAT BASICALLY THE FEES OR THE PERMIT FEES FOR THE ADUS ARE ALMOST THE SAME AS THEY ARE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, WHY IS THAT? IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF 80 UNITS WITH THE 80 UNITS FALL UNDER THE.
APPROVED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHERE THEY WAIVE THE FEES.
BECAUSE IT'S CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WOULD YOU PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? I'M SORRY. MY QUESTION WAS, THE CITY JUST ADOPTED A NEW FEE WAIVER, OR IS IT PERMIT? WAIVER? BUILDING PERMIT? BUILDING PERMIT. FEE WAIVER FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
MY QUESTION WAS, COULD IT COULD THAT ADDITIONALLY APPLY TO AN ADU, WHICH IS IS BY DEFINITION AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO OFFER IT UP AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN ORDER TO HAVE AN ADU.
IS MY UNDERSTANDING? CORRECT. THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE WAIVER IS GOVERNED BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
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SO I COULD CONFER WITH HIM, BUT I WOULD.I COULD SEE WHERE IT IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT.
SO I'D HAVE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ONCE I TALK TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
ARE YOU? WHAT KIND OF COMPLIANCE ARE YOU REQUIRED TO DO ON THAT? BECAUSE I PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE OF.
SO I GUESS IF LET'S SAY HE DID THE ADU ADU AND HE QUALIFIED AND YOU, YOU HAD TO GOVERN THAT LIKE CHECK IT COMPLIANCE.
I GUESS THAT'S THE AS I'M THINKING IT THROUGH OUT LOUD.
SORRY. WE AS STAFF CHOSE NOT TO CHARGE ANY FEES FOR COMPLIANCE.
SO WE'RE TAKING THAT UPON THE HOUSING STAFF OURSELVES TO MONITOR IT.
SO WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW WITHOUT HAVING TO CHARGE ANYONE FOR IT.
DID YOU GUYS GO TO THE RECENT LIVE LOCAL THAT TALKED ABOUT THE COMPLIANCE? WELL, THIS IS IN ADDITION, NOT ONLY JUST LIVE LOCAL, IT ALSO WOULD BENEFIT OUR SHIP HOUSING REPAIR PROGRAM, ANY PROJECT THAT MAY HAVE LIKE STATE FUNDING. SO IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY JUST INCLUDE THE LIVE LOCAL.
IT INCLUDES ANY ANY PROJECT THAT MEETS THE DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO BE ABLE TO WAIVE THE PERMIT FEES FOR AN ADU TO ENCOURAGE.
THAT IS A GREAT SOLUTION TO HELP ADD UNITS TO OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WITH PALM BAY BEING VASTLY RESIDENTIAL, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT TO IMPLORE.
THAT IS A THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION.
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU. IT WAS JUST A QUESTION.
SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE DEVELOPMENT GRANTED TO MAKE IT MORE POSSIBLE.
SO WHAT SPECIFICALLY DID THEY DO IN DC? WHAT TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION DID YOU NEED TO PROVIDE IN ORDER TO VALIDATE THAT IT WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND AN ADU? JUST I MEAN, THEY DIDN'T JUST GO WAVE THEM OUT.
YEAH. ANY NEW PRODUCTS THAT WE DID IN THESE WERE NOT NECESSARILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED SUCH THAT THEY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BUILD MORE FOR THE PURPOSES OF CREATING MORE HOUSING. SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THEY DID HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU NEEDED TO PROVIDE.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY LOOKED FOR BECAUSE BASED ON JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DOCUMENTATION, THERE'S GOT TO BE STUFF THAT HUD IS GOING TO REQUIRE AS WELL.
AND. I'M ACTUALLY TALKING FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
OKAY. AND WHAT QUALIFIES FOR, UM, BELOW, ABOVE CERTAIN INCOME LEVELS.
OKAY. AND AND WHAT QUALIFIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING? THAT'S WHAT I'M REFERENCING SPECIFICALLY IN A PAST MEETING.
I KNOW WE HAD ASKED AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT CLARIFICATION ON IT, BUT I BELIEVE ADDING AN ADU TRIGGERS A NEW ASSESSMENT ON THE HOUSE AND HOW THAT AFFECTED THEIR EXEMPTION FOR, YOU KNOW, AS YOU STAY IN THE HOUSE LONGER AND LONGER. I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVER GOT THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO PENALIZE SOMEBODY.
UM, TAXING WISE FOR ADDING A UNIT EITHER.
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BUT THE BUT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WITH BREVARD COUNTY, THE IT'S A COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER.THEY ARE GOING TO ASSESS THAT AT A HIGHER RATE.
OKAY. BUT BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS THAT IF THE HOUSE IS HOMESTEADED, THEN WHATEVER THAT IS IS GOING TO FALL UNDER THE HOMESTEADED VALUE THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS.
OKAY. EVEN IF EVEN IF YOU'RE ADDING SOMETHING ON IT WOULD BE LIKE YOU SAID, I HAVE A HOUSE.
OKAY. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE BASED ON THE VALUE THAT MY HOUSE IS TAXED AT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WASN'T.
AWESOME. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND SO I'LL JUST GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE.
SHE WAS HERE LAST YEAR AS WELL.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC PLANNING QUESTIONS, THEY CAN CERTAINLY JUMP IN AND HELP US.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE PROCESSING OF APPROVALS OF DEVELOPMENT ORDERS OR PERMITS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IS EXPEDITED TO A GREATER DEGREE OTHER THAN THAN OTHER PROJECTS AS PROVIDED IN CHAPTER 163.
WE ALSO ADDED THAT AS PART OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDING PERMIT FEE, THOSE ALSO GET TAGGED WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS EXPEDITED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR CHANGES THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO MAKE.
TO NUMBER ONE, HOW DO WE MEASURE THE EXPEDITION OF THESE PERMITS AND REVIEWS? BECAUSE BUILDING HAS A CERTAIN TIME FRAME FOR WHEN THEY NORMALLY LIKE, LET'S SAY IT'S A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
IF THEIR AVERAGE REVIEW IS TEN DAYS, IT WOULD NEED TO SHOW THAT IT WAS LESS THAN THAT TIME FRAME.
OKAY, SO WE DON'T HAVE LIKE A PERSON TO THE TOP OF THE LIST OKAY.
DID YOU ALL WANT TO KEEP ANY? DID YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR KEEP IT AS AS IT IS? I LIKE TO KEEP IT AS IT IS.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE COMMUNITY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO NUMBER TWO IS ALL FEE WAIVERS PROVIDED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILDING PERMIT FEE REDUCTION PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS THE 100% BUILDING PERMIT FEE REDUCTION PURSUANT TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING MUST BE PURSUANT TO SECTION 430.9071 FLORIDA STATUTES AND SERVE PERSONS THAT ARE 80% OR BELOW AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE STAFF TO VERIFY AS WELL.
WE ALSO CREATED THESE HANDY LINKS, WHICH IS IN THERE, WHICH ALLOW PEOPLE JUST TO CLICK ON A QR CODE AND ALLOW THEM TO APPLY AS AS WELL. THERE WITHIN THIS ALSO, WE.
IN JULY OF 21, 2022, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY ZONING I'M SORRY, VOLUNTARY INCLUSIONARY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND THIS WILL ALLOW A DEVELOPER TO ENTER INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND ALLOWS DEVELOPERS CERTAIN THINGS, SUCH AS DENSITY OR INTENSITY, BONUS INCENTIVES, MORE FLOOR SPACE THAN ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT OR PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OR ZONING OR GREATER HEIGHT.
I ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT IN THIS SECTION WITH.
BECAUSE OF THE LOCAL ACT, THE CITY CANNOT REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT AUTHORIZED UNDER THIS PREEMPTION TO OBTAIN A ZONING LAND USE CHANGE, SPECIAL EXCEPTION, CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL VARIANCE OR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT FOR USE DENSITY OR HEIGHT.
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AND SO THERE ARE CERTAIN FEES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT NOW.AND SO THIS IS ALSO A REDUCTION IN COSTS.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT.
SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT IMPACT FEES IN THE PAST, AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, IN CONJUNCTION WITH CITY COUNCIL, HAS DETERMINED THAT THEY MORE THAN LIKELY WILL NOT REDUCE THE IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THE IMPACT FEES, TRANSPORTATION, FIRE, POLICE, WATER, SEWER, THEY ARE VERY MUCH NEEDED IN THE CITY AND.
POTENTIALLY. BEING ABLE EVEN IF IT WASN'T 50%.
AND MAYBE WE TARGET EVEN LOWER AMIS.
SO AND THEY'RE ONLY GETTING SO THEY'RE ONLY GETTING THAT BENEFIT FOR THOSE AMIS.
SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO SAY EVEN AT A LOWER THAN 60%, MAYBE YOU'RE 50%, OR MAYBE YOU'RE EXTREMELY LOW INCOME UNITS AT THE 22%, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY SOME OF THE FUNDING.
THAT IS A VERY DRASTIC SMALL GRANT AMOUNT THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO COLLECT ON THOSE UNITS.
SO THOSE UNITS EXTREMELY LOW, THE ONES THAT ARE ALSO VERY LOW, THAT WOULD BE JUST BECAUSE THAT'S BRINGING IN THE MOST AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT PALM BAY DESPERATELY NEEDS, THOSE LOW, LOW ONES.
SO I WOULD SAY IF WE COULD AT LEAST DO SOMETHING LIKE THE ELLIS FOR THE LOW HOME RENT ONES, AND I CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. REMEMBER THE PERCENTAGE FOR LOW.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN THE OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY, WHICH IS OUR CHARTERED RESPONSIBILITY, IS WHAT IT IS. AND RIGHT NOW OUR POLICE AND FIRE ARE STRETCHED TO THE NTH.
WE HAVE THERE ARE 246 POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND OURS IS RATED TO 41 RIGHT NOW.
SO ANYTHING SHORT OF FUNDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 100% FOR EVERY DOLLAR AND THEN SOME.
I DON'T WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR BUDGET TO DO THAT.
IF WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE FINANCIALLY AS A CITY, I'D SAY I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I BELIEVE GIVEN THAT THOSE PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR INCOME LEVEL AND THEIR RENT, WHEN THEY HAVE TO CALL AND THEY NEED A RESPONSE. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER IF WE CONTINUE TO SHORT FUNDS FOR THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING, THEN WHO'S GOING TO ANSWER THE CALL? I THINK THE THING IS, THOUGH, IT'S SUCH A LOW NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT IN, AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN REVISIT.
AND NANCY, YOU COULD TELL US OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH.
HOW MANY ACTUALLY HAVE AN UNIT? IT'S VERY FEW BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH THEM.
SO IT'S 22% IS THE IS THE PERCENTAGE.
SO ON A ONE BEDROOM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A RENT OF 250 TO $300.
IS ALL THAT THE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GETTING ONCE IT'S DEVELOPED.
SO TO GIVE THEM A SMALL AMOUNT, I MEAN OF BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY GETTING THAT DISCOUNT ON THOSE UNITS.
SO LET'S SAY THE DEVELOPER HAS 30 UNITS.
IF WE WERE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, I'D GO, BRAVO, LET'S DO IT.
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BUT SINCE WE AREN'T RIGHT NOW, EVEN IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT, IT'S MORE THAN WHAT WE GOT.IS THERE A WAY TO DEFER FEES OTHER THAN FOR FIRE AND RESCUE? AND THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
YOU HAVE AN ABILITY TO DEFER FEES, BUT THE DEFER MEANS THEY STILL PAY IT.
BUT REMEMBER ALSO THE CITY OFFERS THE SHIP FUNDS OUT OF $100,000.
AND WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING THAT AS WELL.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES OTHER THAN TOUCHING THE IMPACT FEES.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THERE IS IMPACTS.
THERE IS POLICE, FIRE, TRANSPORTATION, WATER, SEWER, PARKS, THERE ARE IMPACTS.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE GRANT ENTITLEMENT CDBG HOME AND SHIP.
IF THAT'S THE BOARD'S CONSENSUS THOUGH, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD.
BUT WE DO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THE BOARD, SO HE MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT AS WELL.
SO MY QUESTION IS THOUGH, CAN WE.
BUT SHE TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHICH I UNDERSTAND.
I AGREE WITH MAKING SURE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE SAFE.
IF THE BOARD AS A WHOLE DECIDES THAT THEY WANT TO RECOMMEND.
AND SO UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO GET THOSE FEES, IN ORDER TO GET THE THE SEWER PLANT ONLINE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO TO PROVIDE THAT WATER AND SEWER SO THAT WHEN YOU GO OUT TO SOUTHWEST ON SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE AND YOU LOOK, WHY IS THIS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED? THAT'S EXACTLY WHY.
SO TO CONTINUE TO REDUCE OUR IMPACT FEES, THAT SLOWS DOWN OUR PROGRESS AND OUR DEVELOPMENT, AS COMMISSIONER PETER HAD MENTIONED AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHY THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE WAYS TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE COST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY THE CITY TOOK $4 MILLION FROM OUR ARPA FUNDS AND PUT IT TOWARDS HOUSING, AND SO THAT WE COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THOSE FEES. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.
OH TO VOTE ON EACH ONE OF THEM.
YES, YES. BECAUSE WE DIDN'T VOTE ON NUMBER ONE.
YEAH. THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE RECOMMENDATION.
BUT IF YOU'RE RECOMMENDING SOMETHING.
YEAH. IN A SECOND. AND THEN WE DIDN'T VOTE AND I WAS JUST MAKING SURE OKAY.
SO THE THIRD ONE IS THE ALLOWANCE OF FLEXIBLE DENSITIES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE SPECIFICALLY HAVE THAT NOW IN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
WAS THERE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR CHANGES TO THAT.
SO THE DENSITY BONUS IS ONLY IN A PUD.
NO, THE THERE ARE THERE ARE FLEXIBILITIES IN DENSITIES FOR PUD.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THEM WRITTEN OUT WHAT THEY ARE.
AND THAT WAS BECAUSE THE CITY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO COUNCIL WANTS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON THAT IN A CASE BY HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, BECAUSE EACH DEVELOPMENT THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT A DEVELOPER MAY NEED AND THEN EVERYTHING WILL HAVE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL ANYWAY.
AS I HAD KIND OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH IMPACT FEES, THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED ANALYSIS OF INFRASTRUCTURE CAPACITY TO EVALUATE THE CITY'S ABILITY TO MAINTAIN ADOPTED LEVEL OF STANDARDS.
AND SO ALTHOUGH THE ANALYSIS FOUND WE HAD SUFFICIENT CAPACITY, AT THE RATE THAT WE'RE GROWING, WE'RE STILL HAVING DIFFICULTY BEING ABLE TO SERVE ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THEIR NEEDS.
SO THE FIFTH ONE IS THE AFFORDABLE ACCESSORY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
AND SO AS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE CITY DOES HAVE DOES DEFINE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
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IT OUTLINES I WON'T READ ALL OF IT, BUT IT TELLS YOU WHERE THE DIFFERENT ZONINGS ARE.AND THEN THERE'S YOU'RE ALLOWED ONE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PER PROPERTY.
AND THEN THERE'S CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGES AND.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY OTHER CHANGES YOU WANTED TO MAKE TO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
CAN WE GO AHEAD AND SAY WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND WAIVE PERMITTING FEES? LET ME JUST CHECK WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ON THAT ONE.
I BELIEVE THAT IT IS ELIGIBLE, BUT I'LL DEFINITELY PUT THAT IN THERE.
I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS BUILD.
YOU WOULD APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT JUST LIKE YOU WOULD A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
OKAY. I JUST NEED TO CHECK WITH HIM.
OKAY. OKAY, SO SIX IS THE REDUCTION OF PARKING AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS.
ORDINANCE 2022 DASH 73 ALLOWS FOR AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE FOR SETBACKS, FLOOR AREA RATIOS, FRONTAGE REQUIREMENTS, SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, LOT COVERAGE, SIZE RESTRICTION, YARD REQUIREMENTS, PARKING, AND OTHER VARIANCES.
SO THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF THE WAIVER IS UP TO 20%.
THIS WAS APPROVED IN JULY 21ST, 2022.
SO. SO SOMETHING FROM THE THE BOARD'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE PAST.
SO I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT I DRIVE BY AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ALL OVER THE STATE AND SEE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ASPHALT FOR PARKING THAT DOES NOT GET USED.
AND. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT REDUCTION BE ABLE TO BE HIGHER JUST BECAUSE THAT COST THE DEVELOPER SO MUCH MONEY, BUT IT'S A WASTE OF SPACE THAT CAN BE USED TO DO OTHER GREAT THINGS IN A DEVELOPMENT LIKE A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WHAT CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE CURRENT STANDARD IS PER BEDROOM FOR PARKING SPACE? IT REALLY DEPENDS ON YOUR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DO ALLOW FOR A 20% REDUCTION IN PARKING.
SO IF IF A DEVELOPMENT NEEDED ADDITIONAL LIKE NEEDED ONE LESS PARKING, YOU CERTAINLY COULD APPLY TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR AND GET A REDUCTION IN PARKING DOES THAT.
BUT THAT REQUIRES THEM COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
NO, IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE.
IT'S ADMINISTRATIVE ONLY UP TO 20% THOUGH.
MY MY SAYING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT A LARGER PERCENTAGE UP TO SAY 50%.
IT WOULD ALLOW 50%, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE THE CITY BE ABLE TO SIGN OFF ON THAT WITHOUT IT HAVING TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL, BECAUSE THEN THAT TAKES MORE DAYS AND MORE TIME TAKES MORE MONEY. YES, BUT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A 50% REDUCTION.
SO IF YOU HAVE 100 UNITS AND YOU NEED 200 PARKING SPACES, NOW YOU'RE ONLY GETTING 100.
YEAH, YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
BUT IF YOU HAVE 100 UNITS AND YOU'RE ONLY NOW YOU'RE REDUCING IT BY 50 PARKING SPOTS.
SO YOU HAVE 100 PARKING SPOTS.
AND AND MOST PEOPLE AND I THINK I THINK MOST OF THEM DON'T THOUGH, SO AND MAYBE IT'S LOOKING AT THE, THE AMIS BECAUSE ONCE YOU HIT A CERTAIN AMI THEY DON'T HAVE THE THEY JUST DON'T HAVE IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE FOR A FORMAL HOUSING.
SO YOU CAN'T JUST OKAY, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET TO LIKE A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ALL 60% AND BELOW 90% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE VEHICLES. AND SO IT'S JUST WHAT'S THE DEVELOPER KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE PROPOSING UPFRONT ANYWAYS? I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT THEM DOING THIS LIKE HALFWAY THROUGH.
I MEAN, THIS WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN FROM THE UPFRONT.
THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND IF THEY NEED A VARIANCE, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T UNUSUAL.
IT'S JUST THAT IT'S THEY'RE ON SUCH A TIGHT TIMELINE WITH THEIR UNDERWRITING PROCESS THAT THEY DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE THE TIME TO GO DO TO THE MEETING TO GET THE APPROVAL, BUT THEY ARE ON A TIGHT TIMELINE.
AND SO THAT'S I'M SORRY, THIS MIGHT I, I KNOW I'M LIKE LITERALLY ALMOST EATING IT.
I WAS SAYING THAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH FLORIDA FINANCE CORPORATION REQUIRES THE DEVELOPER TO GET THROUGH THEIR, THEIR UNDERWRITING PROCESS WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
IF THEY DON'T GET THROUGH THEIR UNDERWRITING PROCESS IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME, THEY'RE PENALIZED ONE.
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I THINK IT'S 1% OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.IT STILL WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY.
BUT IT'S JUST IT'S JUST I WOULD IT GIVES THE CITY MORE.
THE CITY PLANNER MORE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY WOULD MAYBE EVEN APPROVE IT BECAUSE THEY IT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE TO APPROVE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT GIVING THE CITY WHOEVER SIGNS OFF ON IT, MORE FLEXIBILITY TO SAY THIS MAKES SENSE AND NOT HAVE TO BRING IT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT EVERY ONE OF THEM WOULD GET APPROVED UP TO 50% REDUCTION.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THE CITY, IS IT THE CITY PLANNER THAT SIGNS OFF ON IT? AND THAT'S WHAT CITY COUNCIL DID.
I'M JUST SAYING I'D LIKE TO GIVE THEM MORE, AND THEY KNOW IF IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK LIKE I TRUST THEM TO SAY, NO, I'M NOT SIGNING OFF ON THIS ONE, THAT YOU HAVE TO GO TO THIS, THE CITY. I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TAKE THIS FURTHER, YOU NEED TO GO BEFORE COUNCIL.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO GIVE THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY TO DO IT.
THAT'S I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY WOULD ALL GET APPROVED.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES. AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING ANYWHERE WITH THIS.
THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'RE DOING.
YEAH. I THINK I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO YOU ASKING TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE, THERE'S A CURRENT ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVER WHERE THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR CAN ALLOW UP TO 20% VARIANCE FOR LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR PARKING.
SO COMMISSIONER BEARD IS ASKING THAT WE.
PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL TO GO BACK AND ASK FOR 50% VARIANCE.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, A 100 UNIT PROJECT THAT NEEDS 200 PARKING SPACES WOULD ALLOW THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR TO ONLY ALLOW 50% OF THOSE PARKING SPACES.
CURRENTLY, COUNCIL HAS ALLOWED A 20% HER ABILITY TO ALLOW FOR A 20% ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE.
AFTER THAT, IT HAS TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S STILL SHE STILL HAS THE ABILITY TO SAY, THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE SO IF IT'S AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER THAT'S COMING AND THEY'RE AT 120% AMI, THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE CARS.
BUT IF IT'S A DEVELOPER THAT IS AT 60% BELOW ON ALL OF THE UNITS AND THEN HAS MULTIPLE UNITS THAT ARE AT 22%, THAT GIVES HER THE ABILITY TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS MAKES SENSE.
AND I CAN SIGN OFF ON THIS BECAUSE I SEE I SEE THIS AND IT MAKES SENSE.
AND SHE CAN ALSO SAY, NO, THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE COUNCIL IS SEEING.
IT CAN'T BE THE SAME, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM THE AUTHORITY TO GO BACK TO.
IF YOU NEED THE 50%, THEN SHE CAN MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
IT GOES TO COUNCIL AND THE COUNCIL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? ALONG WITH INPUT FROM THE.
I JUST THINK THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD.
THE ABILITY TO. MR. CHAIR. UH, YES, KENNY.
OH, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, MR. EDWARDS PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ECHO THE SAME REMARKS, BUT IT'S FINE.
AWESOME. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MAY I JUST SPEAK FOR A MOMENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND? OH, YES. GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD.
ONE THING. SO IN YOUR UPDATED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT SPECIFICALLY STATES IN THERE THAT STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO INCENTIVIZE SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU'RE HAVING TONIGHT.
AND TYPICALLY IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS IT'S A PUD.
SO YOU KNOW WE WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.
AND WE LET THEM HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY.
AND WE PROVIDE THEM WITH WAIVERS, IF YOU WILL, ON STANDARDS THAT PERHAPS THEY SAY, HEY, CAN I REDUCE THIS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THIS? THE PROBLEM WITH, WITH PUTTING LIKE A 50% CAP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT IT'LL TAKE AWAY POSSIBLY THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE, YOU KNOW, A REDUCTION IN PARKING.
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FOR A BUS SHELTER IN LIEU OF PARKING SPACES SO THAT THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES AND THE COMMUNITY THEMSELVES DON'T LOSE OUT IN THE ABILITY TO HAVE CARS OR OR OR TAKE ADVANTAGE OF MULTIMODAL OPPORTUNITIES.DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THEN ALSO REDUCING THINGS TOO FAR, YOU KNOW, I'M ALWAYS FOR LESS PARKING, BUT THEN GIVE ME MORE OPEN SPACE.
STAFF DOES HAVE ABILITY TO PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY AND WAIVERS WHEN THEY MAKE SENSE.
AND TYPICALLY I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THE PLANNING STANDARD IS TYPICALLY NOT MORE THAN 20%.
SO I WOULD I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THAT STANDARD INTACT.
AND THIS ONE IS SPECIFICALLY TIED TO THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENTS.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, THE ONE I DID HAVE, I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION.
SO THE AGAIN, IS THERE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH REGARDS TO THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY BECAUSE IT SAYS 800FT². AND YEAH, AND THAT'S IN A PUD OKAY OKAY.
THANK YOU. THAT'S IN A PUD, NOT THE ADUS.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO HERE.
THANK YOU FOR ZERO LOT LINE CONFIGURATIONS.
WE'RE GETTING WE'RE GETTING TO OR DO WE ALREADY PASS.
YEAH. OH YEAH WE DID USE IS THERE A MINIMUM I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS A MINIMUM FOR THE NUMBER SIX.
THERE IS A THERE IS A MINIMUM FOR AN ADU RIGHT.
YEAH I'VE READ IT THE OTHER DAY.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE LOT.
YEP. IS A MAX OR IT'S ACTUALLY A MAXIMUM OF 50% OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE HOUSE THAT THE PROPERTY OCCUPIES HAD A MINIMUM OF SOMETHING AS WELL.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT THERE WAS A MINIMUM TOO.
THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SHALL BE NO LESS THAN 200FT² OF AIR CONDITIONED FLOOR AREA.
OKAY, I KNEW I READ IT SOMEWHERE.
ALL RIGHT, SO EIGHT IS THE MODIFICATION OF STREET REQUIREMENTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WHAT KIND OF MODIFICATIONS WOULD YOU BE? WOULD THEY BE TALKING ABOUT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONE.
WELL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON A PRIVATE ROAD, NOT NECESSARILY A PUBLIC ROAD.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE IF WE WOULD ALLOW THAT AS PART OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCES WHERE WE WOULD ALLOW SMALLER, MORE NARROW STREETS, PRIVATE ROADS GOING INTO A DEVELOPMENT.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT HAD TO DO WITH THIS.
SO THE QUESTION WAS IN REGARDS TO ROAD RIGHT OF WAY WIDTHS, IS THAT CORRECT? I THAT IT COULD BE SMALLER OR OR ALLOW FOR STREET PARKING OR NOT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. IS THIS THE WOULD THIS BE THE PLACE THAT I WOULD ASK ABOUT STREET PARKING? I DON'T IS THAT WHAT STREET REQUIREMENTS AND MODIFICATION OF STREET REQUIREMENTS IS? BECAUSE IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THAT THERE'S NOT ALLOWED TO BE STREET PARKING? THAT'S I GUESS MY QUESTION.
SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE AREA OF TOWN AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
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AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A PRIVATE ROADWAY AS OPPOSED TO A PUBLIC ROADWAY, AND YOU NEED TO LOSE TWO FEET OF ROAD RIGHT OF WAY, THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AT A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT IT'S TALKING ABOUT.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY AREAS IN PALM BAY THAT STREET PARKING WOULD WORK.
THERE'S DEFINITELY AREAS IN PALM BAY THAT THAT STREET PARKING WOULD NOT WORK AT ALL.
AND THAT'S WHEN WE BRING IN OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, FRANK WATANABE, AND WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
SO THERE'S ABILITY FOR A DEVELOPER TO SAY, WE'D LIKE TO DISCUSS STREET PARKING.
IT'S JUST NOT IN THIS NOT LISTED IN HERE.
THAT'S LIKE I SAID SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD TALK ABOUT AT A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.
IF IT WAS FOR A SITE SPECIFIC PROJECT, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF UNDERSTOOD BASED ON THE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S KIND OF UNDERSTOOD.
OKAY. SO NUMBER NINE IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROCESS BY WHICH A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONSIDERS BEFORE ADOPTION POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS OR PLAN PROVISIONS THAT INCREASE THE COST OF HOUSING.
AND SO THAT THAT IS ALREADY AN INCENTIVE HAS ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED.
ANNUALLY WE BRING THOSE TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEY ARE LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, AS REQUIRED BY FLORIDA STATUTES.
AND SO IN THE FUTURE, IF WE DO, WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT TO TRY TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF THE SPORT DEVELOPMENT NEAR THOSE TRANSPORTATION HUBS AND MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. OKAY.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE FROM THE BOARD.
ALL RIGHT. COOL. SO THIS WAS REPORT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU, BUT IT DOES HAVE TO GO BACK FOR FINAL APPROVAL, WHICH WILL BE YOUR NEXT BOARD BOARD MEETING IN DECEMBER. JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
HAVING THAT ADDED TO NUMBER FIVE, AM I ACCURATE? IF THE BUILDING OFFICIAL DETERMINES THAT A BUILDING PERMIT ON AN ADU MEETS THE BUILDING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, THEN WE WOULDN'T REALLY NEED TO CHANGE IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE ALREADY ALLOWED.
AND I'LL SEND THAT TO YOU ONCE I GET NOTIFICATION FROM HIM.
BUT WOULD IT BE GOOD TO PUT IT ON THERE SO THAT IT WAS.
WOULD IT BE GOOD TO HAVE IT? DOESN'T THIS GO IN OUR LAP? NO, THE AHAC DOES NOT GO IN YOUR LAP.
BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN ALSO PUT IT ON THE ACTUAL CERTIFICATION ON OUR WEBSITE.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I WOULD PUT THAT TOGETHER IF I WAS A RESIDENT SAYING, I'M GOING TO PUT AN ADU.
SO GROWTH MANAGEMENT STAFF KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE USUALLY THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT ON ADUS.
I THINK THAT'S AN AMAZING PROGRAM.
SO KUDOS TO YOU GUYS FOR GETTING THAT OFF THE GROUND.
THANK YOU. AND ANNUALLY WE'RE GOING WE TRACK THAT.
SO IN 2021, THE BOARD HAD ASKED THAT WE BRING BRING THIS TO YOU, THE FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, WHICH THEY ARE ATTACHED. WE DO MULTIPLE SURVEYS, HUNDREDS OF SURVEYS.
AND WE ALSO BRING THIS TO THE BOARD, TO OUR NONPROFIT AGENCIES, AND THEY RANK THE PRIORITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS AS HIGH, MEDIUM AND LOW.
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PROPOSALS FOR CDBG AND HOME FUNDS.SO LAST YEAR YOU KEPT ALL OF THE SAME PRIORITIES, BUT YOU ADDED TRANSPORTATION, TENANT LANDLORD COUNSELING, RENTAL, HOUSING SUBSIDIES UNDER THE PUBLIC SERVICE CATEGORY. AND THEN THE BOARD ADDED YOUTH SERVICES UNDER PUBLIC FACILITIES AS THEIR HIGH RANKING LIST.
SO WE'RE JUST BRINGING THIS TO THE BOARD TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PRIORITIES THAT ARE LISTED THAT MAYBE ARE MEDIUM OR LOW, THAT YOU FEEL ARE A HIGH PRIORITY THIS YEAR. SO THE THE AMOUNT OF SENIORS THAT ARE.
CURRENTLY BECOMING HOMELESS IS RAPIDLY RISING AND ESPECIALLY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
I SEE THAT THERE'S ONE FOR SENIOR SERVICES THAT'S AT MEDIUM.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER.
IS THERE ANY HOUSING SPECIFIC FOR SENIORS THAT LIKE LOW INCOME HOUSING FOR SENIORS ON HERE THAT MAYBE WE COULD ADDRESS? OR IS IT JUST SENIOR SERVICES AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE THERE.
THERE'S ALSO THE HOUSING DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
AND THAT, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WOULD BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE AS WELL.
AND THE IT'S AN IT'S ALARMING AT THE RATE THAT SENIORS ARE BEING DISPLACED OUT OF THEIR HOUSES FOR NOTHING OTHER THAN NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD RENT.
IT'S NOT ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE.
SO THE HOUSING AND REFERRAL SERVICES THAT'S JUST ABOVE THAT ITEM IS ALSO PLACED AS A MEDIUM.
AND FRANKLY, AGAIN, WE'RE BACK TO IDENTIFYING THE NEEDS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AND IN THE VEIN OF HOUSING AND SUBSIDIES FOR THEIR RENT AND UTILITIES.
ET CETERA. ET CETERA. I THINK THOSE THINGS, AS YOU'VE NOTED, ARE A HIGH PRIORITY.
I ALSO THINK THAT MENTAL HEALTH AND CRIME AWARENESS NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE FOCUS ON AS WE LOOK OUTSIDE OF OURSELVES AND WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AS A COMMUNITY AND HOW WE'VE BEEN AFFECTED.
I MEAN, WE LOOK AT THE EVENTS OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS, WE CAN SEE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN EVENTS THAT HAVE LENT THEMSELVES IN THIS VEIN AND THAT PERHAPS IF THERE HAD BEEN MORE ATTENTION, MAYBE PEOPLE WOULD KNOW HOW TO REACH OUT TO GAIN WHAT THEY NEED.
THAT'S ALL. SO CRIME AWARENESS IS CURRENTLY HIGH.
AND I WANTED TO MENTION RENTAL HOUSING SUBSIDY WAS RANKED HIGH FOR LAST YEAR.
BUT MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES IS NOTED AS MEDIUM.
THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.
CERTAINLY IF THE BOARD DESIRES WE CAN ADD MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND SENIOR SERVICES TOO.
SO IT'S ON HERE. IT SAYS RENTAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES ARE ONLY MEDIUM RIGHT NOW.
OH, OKAY. IT'S JUST NOT REFLECTING ON THIS CURRENT LIST OKAY.
OKAY. IT CAN'T BECAUSE THIS IS OUR FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
THE BOARD WANTED ADDITIONAL RANKINGS, SO THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT IN THE AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY. ADDITIONALLY RANKED HIGH FOR THIS YEAR, BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THE LEVELS.
OKAY. FIVE YEAR ADOPTED CONSOLIDATED PLAN.
THANK YOU. WE CAN'T MAKE THEM ALL HIGH.
OKAY. SO YEAH I WOULD RECOMMEND THE SENIOR SERVICES GO TO HIGH.
AND. THE HOUSING, THE SUBSIDIES AND MENTAL HEALTH MENTAL HEALTH SUBSIDIES.
TRYING TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM REAL QUICK.
IS IT? SECURITY DEPOSITS FALL UNDERNEATH THE HOUSING SUBSIDIES OF SUCH RENTAL HOUSING PROGRAM? IS THAT WHAT THAT DOES? SECURITY DEPOSITS THAT PROVIDES FOLKS WITH WHAT THEY NEED, RIGHT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SECURITY DEPOSITS? YEAH. SECURITY DEPOSITS.
AND THEN THE RENTAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES IS ACTUALLY SUBSIDIZING THEIR ACTUAL RENT FOR THE MONTH.
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IF THERE IS ANY OTHER ONES, OR IF THE BOARD WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT.SO A MOTION TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
SENIOR SERVICES FROM MEDIUM TO HIGH.
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES FROM MEDIUM TO HIGH.
AND SECURITY DEPOSITS FROM MEDIUM TO HIGH.
HOW ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING? WERE WE GOING TO RAISE THAT PAYMENTS FROM MEDIUM TO HIGH? SO ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES.
YES. AND ADDING SORRY RENTAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES.
OKAY. SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION CARRIES.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM IS THE INFORMATIONAL STAFF REPORT.
[OTHER BOARD BUSINESS]
I JUST WANTED TO MENTION WE HAD A REALLY GREAT YEAR AND SPENT A LOT OF OUR CDBG FUNDS.WE ARE ALMOST WE'RE ABOUT $2,000 SHORT OF FINISHING VETERANS PARK.
AND THEN WE'VE ALSO COMPLETED THE DESIGNS FOR ELDERON SIDEWALK SANFILIPPO TO DIANE.
AND THEN WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DESIGNING WICHITA SIDEWALK BABCOCK TO SAN FILIPPO.
AS YOU MAY RECALL, PRIORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TO PROVIDE A WALKABLE CITY AND A LIGHTED CITY.
I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT ALL OF THE PUBLIC SERVICES AND CDBG-CV ARE OR HAVE BEEN ONGOING, BUT AS FAR AS OUR HOME FUNDING, WE DID CONTRACT WITH MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACQUIRING AND REHABBING THE TRIPLEX.
THE NORTHVIEW PROPERTY HAS SOLD AND THE WILLIAMS STREET IS STILL AVAILABLE.
SO IF YOU KNOW ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED.
IT COST US THE CITY ABOUT 315,000 TO BUILD IT APPRAISED AT 290,000.
HOWEVER, THE HOME MAXIMUM SALES PRICE IS 269,000.
I WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE WERE MONITORED FOR OUR HOME PROGRAM OF OUR OF OUR COUNTY.
THERE WERE NO FINDINGS OR CONCERNS.
WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR OUR CLOSEOUT REPORT.
AND SO WE ACTUALLY WE HAVE AN OPEN APPLICATION FOR HOMEOWNERS THAT NEED HOUSING REPAIR.
AND SO THEY CAN GO TO THE BROCHURE, YOU CAN GIVE THEM THIS QR CODE.
SO THAT'S GREAT NEWS THAT WE DID THAT AS WELL.
SO WE WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON FOR THAT SHOUT OUT.
AND THAT WOULD TAKE A DEVELOPER STRAIGHT TO THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE REDUCTION CERTIFICATION AS WELL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET MORE EFFICIENT ELECTRONIC.
AMAZING. WE'RE AVAILABLE. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING TO THE BOARD IF I CAN.
I KNOW I WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, BUT I JUST RECENTLY TOOK A TRAINING ON THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, AND THEY HAVE A CATALYST PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO REQUEST FREE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH IS UP TO EIGHT LIVE, LIVE LOCAL SITE VISITS.
TRAINING WEBINARS, 200 HOURS OF OFF SITE ASSISTANCE AND SEVEN REGIONAL WORKSHOPS.
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SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THE CITY KNEW ABOUT THAT, BUT I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH US DIRECTLY ON THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.AND I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THAT DOES, BUT IT ALLOWS, LIKE SHE WAS SAYING, DEVELOPERS TO USE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT HAVING TO DO A ZONING CHANGE.
THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP IS I KNOW THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS VERY ADAMANT ABOUT PROTECTING THEIR COMMERCIAL LAND FOR COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL USE. AND SO THERE WAS ONE OF THE CITIES.
AND SO I WANTED TO JUST BRING THIS TO THE, TO THE BOARD.
I ALWAYS BRING THIS STUFF UP AND THEN I CAN'T REMEMBER IT FOR YOU GUYS.
EXACTLY. SO THE ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS MAPPING ALL THE ELIGIBLE ZONING DISTRICTS AND THEN MAPPING THE VACANT PARCELS THAT COULD BE AFFECTED, THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AND THEN MAPPING THE LIKE THE.
PLACE BASED INCENTIVE PROGRAMS LIKE YOUR OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT WOULD GIVE THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, IN THE CITY PLANNER TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT PALM BAY, AND HOW IT COULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT OUR LOSS OF COMMERCIAL LAND TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND THEN THE CITY PLANNER LOOKED AND SAID, LET'S LOOK AT OUR RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND SEE WHERE WE WOULD WANT IN THOSE RESIDENTIAL ZONES OR ARE ALREADY MULTIFAMILY ZONINGS WHERE WOULD WE WANT TO SEE THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GO INSTEAD OF OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? AND SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY PICKED FOUR AREAS THAT THEY REALLY WOULD PREFER IT TO GO INSTEAD OF THE COMMERCIAL.
AND LIKE I THINK OF AGORA, CIRCLE AND CONVAIR, THAT AREA IS ALREADY MIXED MULTIFAMILY AND INDUSTRIAL, AND WE ALREADY HAVE LIKE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUT THERE.
RIGHT. SO AND I'M NOT A CITY PLANNER, I'M JUST SAYING.
BUT LIKE MAYBE THE CITY PLANNER GOES, WE'D MUCH RATHER SEE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE.
AND SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY GAVE MORE DENSE.
THEY GAVE INSANE DENSITY BONUSES TO GO AHEAD.
AND SO THAT THEY COULD WHAT DO THEY CALL IT? I'M SORRY. THEY COULD GUIDE THE GROWTH IN LIGHT OF THE PREEMPTION TO WHERE THEY WANTED TO SEE IT TO GO.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE IS THIS AN EXERCISE THAT MAYBE.
AS A BOARD, WE CAN REQUEST THE CITY TO DO THIS MAPPING AND THEN THE CITY PLANNER TO MAYBE GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE ON WHERE IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN LOSING OUR COMMERCIAL LAND, WHICH I KNOW BECAUSE THE CITY BRINGS IN MONEY FOR COMMERCIAL, RIGHT? AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT.
AND MAYBE WE COME UP WITH A STRATEGY LIKE THIS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DIRECT AND GIVE.
SO ESSENTIALLY THE DEVELOPER HAS A CHOICE.
I CAN GO USE LIVE LOCAL AND GET THIS, THIS INCENTIVE WHICH IS HERE, OR I CAN GO WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE CITY AND GO TO THESE RESIDENTIAL WHERE THEY WANT ME TO GET, AND THEN I GET THE BENEFITS UP HERE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WASN'T SURE IF THE BOARD WAS AWARE THAT THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WOULDN'T APPLY TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BECAUSE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THE CITY ZONING MUST BE AT LEAST 20% COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL.
AND SO OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS DETERMINED THAT WE ARE BELOW THAT.
AND SO THERE STILL HAS TO BE THAT 20% MIXED USE.
SO A DEVELOPER COULD NOT COME IN AND DO 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THAT MIXED USE COMPONENT IN THERE AS WELL.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE RADAR FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY THEY'VE HAD SOME STAFF TURNOVER, SO THEY'RE A LITTLE SHORTHANDED RIGHT NOW.
BUT I KNOW THAT HOUSING STAFF I'VE PROBABLY ATTENDED LIKE FIVE LIVE LOCAL SEMINARS.
THEY'RE VERY SO MUCH INFORMATION.
YES. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT I KNOW BEFORE YOU HAVE MENTIONED, LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A DOWNTOWN, BUT MAYBE PLANNING AN AREA WHERE WE COULD HAVE THE MIXED USE COULD CREATE THAT HUB THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE ALSO DON'T HAVE FOR EMPLOYMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD SEE HAPPEN.
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TRAINING? SO LIKE MAYBE IT'S JUST LIKE THIS WEBINAR THAT I WATCHED AND WE BRING IN A LOCAL EXPERT WHO CAN BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND INSTEAD OF US CANCELING OUR MEETING, WE GET TRAINING.OR MAYBE WE BRING IN ANOTHER SOMEBODY FROM ANOTHER CITY THAT MIGHT HAVE A STRATEGY THAT WE WE COULD MAYBE LOOK AT AND SAYING, OH, WE LIKE THIS STRATEGY, AND THEY CAN EDUCATE US ON IT, BECAUSE I KNOW AS A BOARD MEMBER, I FEEL LIKE EVEN THOUGH I DO A LOT OF THIS FOR A LIVING, THERE'S STILL STUFF THAT I DON'T FEEL EDUCATED ABOUT THAT I FEEL LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT SO THAT I CAN MAKE BETTER EDUCATED, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS AND VOTES BASED ON MORE TRAINING.
AND SO I WAS TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS THAT YOU HAD.
BUT AS A BOARD, IF THE CONSENSUS IS YOU WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ITEMS AND DO BOARD TRAINING, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN CAN WORK ON. AND MAYBE IT'S NOT EVERYONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
MAYBE JUST COUPLE HERE AND THERE.
DON'T ALWAYS HAVE ALL THE THE KNOWLEDGE TO TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.
OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? THERE WAS NO SECOND, SO.
ALL RIGHT. YOU DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON IT, I GUESS I WILL.
ONE OPPOSE EVERYTHING UNANIMOUS, AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT MOTION.
WHEN WE'RE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING, CAN I HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK? YES. GO AHEAD, MR. JOHNSON. I DON'T THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU, I COULDN'T. YOUR VOICE IS A LITTLE TOO DEEP.
SORRY ABOUT THAT. NO, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD.
SO HE'LL BE JOINING YOU IN DECEMBER FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
BUT BEFORE I CONCLUDE, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE BOARD IS AWARE.
I CURRENTLY AM LOOKING AT, UM, ONE OF THE ORDINANCES I CHAMPIONED BACK IN 2019, THE TINY HOME ORDINANCE, WHICH KIND OF WENT OVER WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT WITH ADU, BUT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL APPLICANTS COME TO THE CITY.
MISS NANCY'S MET WITH THEM, AND WITH SOME OF THEM THEY WOULD COME, BUT THEN THEY LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE OR LOOK AT LANGUAGE, AND IT'S NOT REALLY CONDUCIVE FOR WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. SO MY GOAL WORKING WITH STAFF IS TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE, SEE WHAT WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, ADJUST OR CHANGE OR TAKE OUT SOME LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT WHERE A TINY HOME COMMUNITY FOR WE TALK ABOUT SENIOR CITIZENS OR JUST FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST MIGHT HAVE ONE CHILD, OR FOR THE HOMELESS OR FOR EVEN TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT TO EXIST IN PALM BAY.
SO DEFINITELY BE ON THE LOOKOUT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE SO MUCH TO THE BOARD.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
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THANK YOU EVERYONE. LOVE YOU ALL.THANK YOU. MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING.
ANY COMMENTS AT THE MOMENT OF TIME? NO COMMENTS. SO AT THIS POINT OF TIME.
COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING WILL END AT 714.
YES.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.