Dec 07, 2023 Council Meetings - Regular

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, SEAN TERRY.

TERRY. SEAN.

OH, SEAN. YOU GOT MY NAME.

THAT'S SEAN. YEAH.

SORRY. HELLO.

THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. MY NAME IS SEAN TERRY.

I'M A PALM BAY RESIDENT.

AND, UH, WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? UH, I CAN'T GIVE IT.

I'M EXEMPT. I'M PRIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

NO, NO DISRESPECT, MATT, BUT I AM A PALM BAY CITIZEN AND RESIDENT HERE, AND I'M A BUSINESS OWNER HERE AS WELL.

I WANT TO START.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A POINT THAT YOU TELL YOUR FRIENDS WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING WRONG BECAUSE YOU LOVE THEM, NOT BECAUSE YOU DISLIKE THEM.

AND I SAW PASTOR DELGADO TALK ABOUT THE PAVILION, AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW MY BUSINESS IS GOING TO MAKE A DONATION TO THAT FOR SURE, BECAUSE I SUPPORT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

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I'M RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT MYSELF.

I SERVED MY COMMUNITY.

BUT I'VE GOT AN ISSUE I WANT TO ADDRESS, AND HOPEFULLY THERE CAN BE A POLICY CHANGE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MY VEHICLE WAS STOLEN ON THANKSGIVING FROM MY DRIVEWAY IN MY VEHICLE.

BECAUSE I'M CURRENTLY A STATE LICENSED PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR.

I HAD A BULLETPROOF VEST AND MY HANDGUN SECURED IN AN ALARMED VEHICLE.

I CALLED THE PALM BAY POLICE AND REPORTED IT STOLEN.

I WAS UNDER THE REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT A STOLEN VEHICLE WITH A BULLETPROOF VEST AND FIREARM WOULD BE INVESTIGATED.

NOT JUST DOCUMENTED, INVESTIGATED, NOT JUST DOCUMENTED.

ANYBODY CAN WRITE A REPORT THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED.

AS I ASKED FOR PUBLIC RECORDS PURSUANT TO FLORIDA LAW, I FOUND IT CURIOUS THAT IT WAS IMMEDIATELY CLOSED.

NO DETECTIVE ASSIGNED, NO FOLLOW UP PERIOD.

THIS WAS CONFIRMED BY THE PALM BAY POLICE CUSTODIAN OF RECORDS.

SHE PROVIDED ME WITH A COPY OF THE REPORT SHOWING IT WAS CLOSED.

I PROVIDED THAT COPY OF THE REPORT TO THE CITY MANAGER IN A IN A LATER PRESENTATION AT HER OFFICE, NOT IN PERSON, BUT THROUGH HER STAFF.

I TRIED TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS, BUT THE PERSON AT THE FRONT DESK AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS TOO BUSY TO PROVIDE ME WITH A COMPLAINT FORM.

A SERGEANT RESPONDED TO THE LOBBY TO TELL ME THE ADMINISTRATION, THE CHIEF OF POLICE, ISSUED A DIRECTIVE THAT STOLEN VEHICLES WOULD NO LONGER BE INVESTIGATED.

YOU HEARD ME RIGHT. NO INVESTIGATION, JUST DOCUMENTATION.

A TOTALLY REACTIVE APPROACH.

IF THEY HAPPEN TO STUMBLE UPON IT, NO INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS POINT BECAUSE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

STOLEN VEHICLES GO HAND IN GLOVE WITH THIS COMMUNITY.

WE'RE FINDING BODIES AT THE COMPOUND LEFT AND RIGHT.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT THEIR STOLEN VEHICLES.

GO HAND IN GLOVE WITH PERSONS.

CRIMES LIKE MURDER.

YOU KNOW WHAT GOES HAND IN GLOVE WITH BANK ROBBERY, STOLEN VEHICLES, KIDNAPED CHILDREN, STOLEN VEHICLES.

ANY ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THAT IS AN ANCILLARY NOT INVESTIGATED, NOT ASSIGNED TO A DETECTIVE CASE IS UNREASONABLE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

IT'S A MASSIVE FELONY.

IT'S USED STATISTICALLY.

AND ALL OTHER MASSIVE CRIMES, INCLUDING THE ONES I JUST MENTIONED.

THERE HAS TO BE A CHANGE TO THAT POLICY.

MY CASE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION NOW BECAUSE I HAD TO COMPLAIN.

THE CITIZEN SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO AND BEG TO HAVE A GRAND THEFT AUTO ASSIGNED TO A DETECTIVE.

I ASKED YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE GET MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

MAKE THAT CHANGE FOR THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SEAN.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

AS THE CHIEF LOOKED INTO THIS POLICY.

AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THAT? CERTAINLY. WE HAD A MEETING EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND I KNOW THE TEAM HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THINGS WITH MISTER TERRY.

I WAS ON A CONFERENCE CALL WITH HIM EARLIER THIS WEEK.

THERE'S A LITTLE MORE TO THE STORY, BUT I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU OFFLINE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER. JAMES GLISSON.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, JAMES GLEASON, 675 PAMPAS STREET, NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

I COME TO YOU TODAY.

LAST THURSDAY AFTERNOON, WHEN MY WIFE AND I WERE SITTING ON A COUCH AND OUR DOG WAS IN THE BACKYARD, HE WAS ATTACKED BY TWO ROTTWEILERS.

UM, AND THERE WAS THREE ROTTWEILERS THAT CONTINUALLY ROAM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS WHEN THAT HAPPENED, I WAS ABLE TO CHASE THE DOGS AROUND.

UH, WE HAD TO TAKE THE DOG FOR EMERGENCY SURGERY.

1300 HOURS LATER, SHE HAD, UM, TWO, TWO DRAINS PUT IN HER FRACTURED RIB AND A LOT OF BRUISING.

UM, I THEN POSTED IT ON PALM BAY FACEBOOK.

THANK GOD FOR SOCIAL MEDIA, BECAUSE I FOUND OUT THAT IT WAS PROBABLY 30 OTHER PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTING TO US THAT WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THESE DOGS RUNNING AROUND NUMEROUS VIOLATIONS, TWO CATS BEING KILLED, KIDS BEING SURROUNDED BY THESE ANIMALS.

AND AT THIS TIME I DECIDED I WASN'T GOING TO LET THIS GO.

I SENT MISTER MAYOR.

I SENT YOU A LETTER. I SENT YOU AN EMAIL.

UM, I TALKED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I TALK TO ANIMAL CONTROL, AND I TALK TO PALM BAY AS WELL.

UM, TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO.

AND AS IT TURNS OUT, UM, LUCKILY, MY GRANDDAUGHTER WAS NOT IN THE BACKYARD.

OR. THANK GOD SHE WASN'T IN THE BACKYARD AT THE TIME BECAUSE SHE CONSIDERS DOGS AS WOOF WOOF AND NOT JUST DOGS AS SHE WOULD HAVE SEEN SOMETHING.

SHE VERY WELL COULD HAVE GOT BIT, AND I WANTED US TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE.

I APPRECIATE MISTER MAYOR.

YOU CALLING ME AND TALKING TO ME ABOUT THE SITUATION.

SEEM LIKE YOU WERE VERY ATTENTIVE AND WANTED TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM.

AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO WANT TO COMMEND OFFICER DAVID MORALES.

UM, I WAS IN HERE AT THE INFORMATION DESK DESK TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER, UM, STEPS THAT I COULD TAKE.

HE HELPED ME ALONG THE WAY.

AND ALSO A SHOUT OUT TO MISTER MIKE GRIFFIN AS WELL.

HE ALSO HELPED ME AND ALSO TOLD ME THAT IF I HAD ANY PROBLEMS TO CALL ME BACK, WHICH I DID, I CALLED HIM BACK.

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AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS WHEN I CAME IN FOR THE INFORMATION DESK, HE WAS AT THAT DESK AT THE SAME AT THE SAME TIME, THE SAME WAS OFFICER MORALES.

THAT BEING SAID, BEING PROACTIVE, UM, TALKING TO THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER THE OTHER DAY.

UM, THOSE DOGS ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY.

UM, IT'S IT'S A SHAME THAT WE HAD TO WAIT THIS LONG.

UM. I'M GLAD. ALTHOUGH I'M NOT HAPPY THAT OUR DOG GOT HURT.

BUT AT LEAST THE DOGS ONE THING.

BUT A CHILD OR ANOTHER PERSON'S ANOTHER THING.

AND I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY THAT WE DID THE RIGHT THING.

AND WE GOT THE DOGS OFF THE STREET.

THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, MISTER GLEASON.

AND WE'RE REALLY SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, SIR.

NEXT DANIEL O'BRIEN.

GOOD EVENING. UM, MY NAME IS DANIEL O'BRIEN, 413 DEAKIN AVENUE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

UM, I WANTED TO READDRESS THE NOTICE REQUIRED FOR THE, UM, ENACTMENT OF 203.

I'M SORRY, 2023.

UM, THE 101 WHICH CREATED THE MANDATORY CONNECTION.

UM, FLORIDA STATUTES HAS A STATUTE THAT I SPOKE TO, UM, MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ AND MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ, BY THE WAY, TRULY A CHAMPION OF OUR CITY.

UM, HE GOES WELL EDUCATED ON THE MATTER AND UNDERSTOOD IT VERY WELL, BUT I DON'T REALLY DISSENT FROM HIM.

BUT INSTEAD, RATHER THAN A DISSENT, I SEE IT AS A DIAMOND, AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND A DIFFERENT WAY THAT I VIEW IT.

HE VIEWS WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS STRICTLY AS A ZONING REQUIREMENT.

HOWEVER, THE ORDINANCE THAT WE CREATED BY ITS VERY LANGUAGE AND NUMBER D OF THE ORDINANCE TALKS ABOUT HOW WE ARE CREATING A ZONE FOR THAT FOR THESE, UH, SEWER AVAILABLE, NOT CONNECTED AND THE WATER AVAILABLE NOT CONNECTED HOME.

SO WE ARE CREATING A ZONE FOR HIM.

WE HAD MAPS TO SUPPORT THAT ZONE THAT SHOWED US WHERE THESE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED, BECAUSE WE DID CREATE A ZONE BY CREATING THIS ORDINANCE, BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING SOMETHING FROM A PERMITTED USE, USING A WELL TO A PROHIBITED USE, NOT USING A WELL, USING AN INDIVIDUAL SEWAGE DISPOSAL SYSTEM TO NOT USE ANYONE.

UM, THIS ORDINANCE, NOT ORDINANCE, THIS STATUTE, THIS FLORIDA STATUTE DOES REQUIRE THAT WE SEND OUT PROPERTY NOTICE TO THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED.

AS A PROPERTY OWNER, I'M NOT DIRECTLY IMPACTED AT THIS POINT BY IT.

IF THE SEWER EXTENDS, I WILL BE IMPACTED.

HOWEVER, WE DO KNOW KNOWN PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE ACTUAL OUT-OF-POCKET FEES.

STATUTE SAYS THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE A MAILED NOTICE, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE A MAILED NOTICE.

UH, LAND USE WAS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT MR. RODRIGUEZ REALLY FOCUSED IN ON.

AND THIS ISN'T A LAND USE, IT'S A WATER USE.

AND IN THE STATUTES THAT DEAL WITH WATER FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THERE ARE WATER USE DEFINES LIMITED WATER USE FOR COMMERCIAL, LIMITED WATER USE FOR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL LIMITED WATER USE FOR THIS.

SO USE IS A MULTIFACETED WORD, AS IS A WORD.

ZONE IS A MULTIFACETED WORD.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATUTE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF SOLELY ZONING, YOU'RE GOING TO COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT MR. RODRIGUEZ DID. IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE AND UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE WORDS HAVE MEANING OUTSIDE OF STRICTLY ZONING THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE NOTICE WE'RE LOOKING AT A CITY HAVING TO SEND OUT A LITTLE BIT OVER 3000 NOTICES, PROBABLY AT A COST OF ABOUT $3,500.

AND TO DO THE RIGHT THING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO AIR, I WOULD URGE US TO DO THE AIR.

ON PROVIDING NOTICE TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, I WOULD ASK THIS COUNCIL TO REVISIT THE ENACTMENT OF THIS ORDINANCE BASED UPON THE REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THANK YOU. MADAM.

MADAM ATTORNEY, I KNOW YOU WERE.

YOU WERE OUT.

UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD SHED LIGHT ON THAT? BECAUSE I KNOW MR. RODRIGUEZ ACTUALLY, UH, SPOKE AT LENGTH, AND I KNOW HE RESPONDED TO AN EMAIL, UH, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING YOU CAN ADD, UH, REGARDING THE THE ORDINANCE.

YES, CHIEF DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY, UH, RODRIGUEZ AND I SPOKE AFTER THE MEETING AND OF COURSE, PRIOR TO THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT AND THE MEETING, UM, WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE THE STATUTE.

AS FAR AS THE REQUIREMENTS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS BASED UPON WHAT THE ORDINANCE DOES.

WE OPERATED UNDER THE 166 .04 13A, WHICH IS JUST A PROPOSED ORDINANCE.

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YOU PROVIDE NOTICE AT LEAST TEN DAYS PRIOR TO ADOPTION IN A NEWSPAPER OF GENERAL CIRCULATION.

THERE ARE ENHANCED REQUIREMENTS FOR ORDINANCES THAT CHANGE THE LAND USE OR ZONING MAPS, AND DEPENDING UPON WHETHER THOSE, UH, USES ARE INITIATED BY THE CITY OR OTHER PARTIES, THOSE ARE NOT APPLICABLE.

AND YES, THE ORDINANCE DOES REGULATE CONNECTING TO THE CITY WATER OR SEPTIC.

BUT JUST BECAUSE AN ORDINANCE REGULATES SOMETHING THAT IS ON LAND DOES NOT MAKE IT A ZONING ORDINANCE.

ZONING ORDINANCE REALLY HAVE TO DO WITH THE USE OF THE LAND BUILDING SIZE, THOSE TYPE OF CRITERIA WHICH ARE NOT APPLICABLE HERE.

THERE HAS BEEN NO MEANING OR CONTEXT AS FAR AS CASE LAW, STATUTORY OR ANY OTHER THAT DEFINES ZONING IN THE MANNER THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAS PROVIDED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

SIR. UM, THANK YOU MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR FEEDBACK.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. STICE.

I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS.

I'LL JUST GIVE THEM TO ME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, ROBERT STEIN, 1796, ONE BRICK DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

FIRST OF ALL, DITTO WITH TIM BLANCHARD IN, UH.

IN TEN YEARS, WE SHOULD HAVE ALMOST ANOTHER 50,000 RESIDENTS.

PALM BAY IS GOING TO BE AT 200,000 CITIZENS ANYWAY.

UM, GENTLEMEN AND LADY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FRONT PAGE, YOU'LL SEE A CIRCLE IN THE MIDDLE.

THAT CIRCLE IS EASTERWOOD, UH, WHICH IS A STREET IN MY HOA.

SO, UM, I WALKED DOWN THERE ACTUALLY, THIS MORNING, I HAD A RESIDENT OF MINE WHO'S, UH, WHO SAID WE HAD SOMEBODY GO BY IN A DIRT BIKE. UH, YOU HAVE THE, UH, THE CITY FEEDER CANAL RIGHT THERE.

AND, UH, THANK GOD IT WAS MOWED.

YOU GUYS DO A GOOD JOB ON THAT.

SO BASICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S WHERE I WALKED IN FROM.

AND AS I'M WALKING DOWN ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, 125 YARDS TO THE RIGHT ON PAGE TWO, YOU'LL SEE TWO TRAILERS.

OKAY, UH, TURN TO PAGE THREE AND YOU'LL SEE THE LICENSE PLATE ON ONE TRAILER.

PAGE FOUR.

YOU CAN SEE THE TRAILER AND LICENSE PLATE ON THE OTHER ONE.

NOW THERE IS, UH, CONTAINERS THERE.

THERE'S A SPARE TIRE.

THE NEXT PAGE ON PAGE FIVE IS BASICALLY, IT'S NOT A CUL DE SAC.

IT'S A DEAD END STREET.

OKAY, SO YOU LOOK, YOU HAVE A LADDER THERE.

YOU HAVE ANOTHER LITTLE SLIGHT STEP LADDER IN THE FRONT.

YOU'VE GOT TIRES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS FREE PARKING.

OTHERWISE I COULD HAVE PUT MY BOAT THERE.

THEN I WOUND UP HAVING TO GET RID OF.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.

AND WHEN YOU TURN TO THE BACK OF THE PAGE, UH, I GUESS THAT PROPERTY IS SARETTA IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT CORRECTLY.

UH, WHY THESE, UM, UM.

VEHICLES ALLOWED TO BE THERE.

HOW COME NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN? WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS THAT PEOPLE, EITHER THEY WALK DOWN THERE INTO OUR HOA AND IT'S JUST VERY EASY.

WHETHER THE ATVS, WHETHER THE DIRT BIKES, BIKES OR YOU'RE WALKING, ANYBODY CAN WALK DOWN THERE.

NOW LET'S LET'S GET REALISTIC.

OR AS I LIKE TO SAY, LET'S TAKE A REALITY PILL.

WE'RE IN A VIOLENT COUNTRY AND A VIOLENT STATE.

OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY BE SURPRISED WHEN I WATCH THE LOCAL NEWS? THERE'S A SHOOTING AND A MURDER EVERY DAY IN ORLANDO? WOULD ANYBODY BE SURPRISED IF SOMEBODY WALKED DOWN THERE? WE CAN ALL CARRY GUNS.

YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT.

I MEAN, I GET MY PERMIT, BUT YOU DON'T NEED A GUN TO WALK DOWN THERE.

WHEN PEOPLE SEE A DARK FIGURE AT NIGHT.

TWILIGHT. OKAY.

WALKING IN BETWEEN HOUSES OR MOTORING IN BETWEEN HOUSES, NOW THIS BECOMES A SAFETY ISSUE.

AND, SIR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE CITY, THE BOARD AND THE GENTLEMAN AND EVERYBODY SITTING UP THERE IS TO PROTECT.

SO I'M ASKING, PLEASE TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS AND LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THE PAGES THERE, THE WAY THIS GOES THERE, I THINK I WROTE THE TILLMAN CANAL, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY CITY PROPERTY.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO OR WHAT CAN YOU DO TO CLOSE THAT OFF.

AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

SO SIR, I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS.

YOU MENTIONED THE HOA, THIS IS HOA OR THIS IS NEIGHBORING YOUR HOA AND THIS IS NEIGHBORING RH.

OKAY. AND THEN DID YOU PROVIDE THIS TO OUR CODE DEPARTMENT? I HAVEN'T YET, I JUST TOOK THE PICTURES THIS MORNING OKAY.

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SO I'M GOING TO PASS THIS ON TO STAFF SO THAT WE COULD TAKE ACTIONS.

YOU'VE GOT THE CROSS STREETS ON THERE.

UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CODE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

NEXT SPEAKER.

DEPUTY MAYOR. AT THIS PAD.

THE DOPPLER.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AND STAFF.

PAT ALPER FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST.

I JUST WANT TO CONGRATULATE THE CITY ON A SUPERB PARADE LAST WEEKEND.

IT WAS THE BIGGEST AND GREATEST PARADE WE'VE EVER HAD.

IT WAS AWESOME. UNFORTUNATELY, I DIDN'T GET TO SEE MOST OF IT SINCE I WAS IN IT, BUT I DID SEE LOTS OF SMILING FACES AND PEOPLE SEEM TO BE AT PEACE AND THERE WERE NO ISSUES? I DON'T THINK SO.

IT WAS REALLY ENJOYABLE.

I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION.

THERE IS A LOT OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, SO IF NEXT TIME WE COULD HAVE A MAP OR A LIST OF CLOSED ROADS BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE TALKING IN PUBLIX AND THEY WERE THERE TILL 5:00 AND THEY COULDN'T REALLY GET OUT OR THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET OUT. SO IF WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LIST OR A MAP OR SOMETHING NEXT TIME, BECAUSE A LOT OF ROADS WERE CLOSED.

OTHERWISE IT WAS A GREAT EVENING.

UM, MY OTHER COMMENT, AND IT GOES WITH THE WOMAN WHO HAS THE FLOODING IN HER YARD.

THIS IS THROUGHOUT ALL OF PALM BAY.

UH, RIGHT NOW I HAVE A PROBLEM.

I HAVE A LOT THAT'S OFF OF GEORGE'S AVENUE.

THAT HALF THE LOT IS LAKE.

IT BACKS UP TO A GUY THAT HAS NOT FINISHED HIS BUILDING.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO SUZANNE ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FIGURE OUT THE DRAINAGE ON ALL THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING BUILT, FIRST AND FOREMOST, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST PILING DIRT AND IT'S AND THIS GUY, IT'S NOT EVEN GRADED.

IT JUST DROPS OFF MY LOT.

AND THE GUY NEXT DOOR AND THERE'S TWO BLOCKS DOWN THERE ALL FLOODED.

AND THEY'RE BEEN THAT WAY FOR 2 OR 3 WEEKS.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND I'M WAITING FOR A RESPONSE FROM ONE OF THEM.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

UM, MADAM CHAIRMAN, UH, YOU'RE WORKING THIS ISSUE OUT CURRENTLY? YES, SIR. THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. TOM MARSHALL.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, COUNCIL.

I'M TOM MARSHALL, 1478 JUPITER BOULEVARD, UNIT 14.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE NOW INFAMOUS ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 101 MANDATORY UTILITIES.

UM, I, I'M JUST GETTING AROUND TO, UH, LOOKING AT THE PODCAST OF THE MEETING SOMEHOW THE THE FIRST READING.

I WATCHED THESE MEETINGS ON TV.

I NEVER IT EITHER MISSED ME OR I MISSED IT ON ON THAT MEETING.

AND I WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR THE NOVEMBER 2ND ONE.

SO THIS ONE, THIS ONE BLEW RIGHT BY ME.

UH, I'VE STUDIED THE PODCAST AND I FOUND IT SLIGHT, THE PRESENTATION JUST SLIGHTLY MISLEADING.

UM, WHICH IS NOT WHAT I EXPECT FROM THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

UM, IT WAS PITCHED IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

LOOKING AT THIS AS A LAYMAN, IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL TO DUMP SEWAGE INTO THE LAGOON, INTO THE INDIAN RIVER.

AND, UM, UH, YOU ALREADY HAVE LEGAL RECOURSE IF YOU KNOW OF A CASE OF WHERE IT'S HAPPENING, YOU CAN YOU CAN STOP IT.

YOU HAVE REMEDIES.

UM, SO IN MY OPINION, THERE'S NO NEED FOR AN ORDINANCE.

UM, MY PROPERTY IS MILES AND MILES AWAY FROM THE LAGOON.

I'M NOT POLLUTING ANY WATERWAY, LET ALONE THE LAGOON, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE WHAT THE CONNECTION IS THERE.

AS YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF GALLONS FROM MUNICIPAL SEWER SYSTEMS, INCLUDING YOUR OWN, HAVE HAVE LEAKED IN THERE.

AND THERE'S. I'VE GOT THE FLORIDA TODAY CLIPPINGS.

THERE'S CITIES AND TOWNS UP AND DOWN THE RIVER THAT HAVE LEAKED THOUSANDS OF GALLONS OF SEWAGE IN THERE.

SO I WAS LOOKING TO CLEAN UP THINGS.

I THINK THE LOW HANGING FRUIT WOULD BE THE MUNICIPAL SYSTEMS AND THE FERTILIZER RUNOFF THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT DURING THE MEETING.

UM, THIS FLORIDA STATUTE THAT THIS WAS, UM, LEANED ON.

UH, I JUST LOOKED IT UP ON THE INTERNET.

I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT IT SAYS THERE'S NO PENALTY IF IF THAT'S TRUE, A STATUTE WITH NO PENALTY IS A RESOLUTION.

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I MEAN, TO ME, IT'S EQUIVALENT TO PARDONING A TURKEY ON THANKSGIVING.

THERE'S NO IT DOESN'T REALLY CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT, BUT I'M NOT A LAWYER.

SO, UM, IT WAS ALSO LEANED ON GRANT MONEY.

GRANT MONEY IS NOT FREE MONEY.

IT'S OUR MONEY. AND IF IT'S FEDERAL GRANT MONEY, IT'S BORROWED MONEY BY DEFINITION.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINE PRINT OF THESE GRANTS ARE.

IS THERE? MEANS TESTING IN THEM? WHAT IF SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS HAVE RETIREMENT PLANS? ARE THEY GOING TO. THEY'RE GOING TO DING AGAINST THEM FOR FOR GETTING ASSISTANCE AS YOU PITCHED IT.

UM, THIS IS DONE IN THE NAME OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

I DON'T KNOW WHY MY WELL, WOULD BE WOULD BE AFFECTED.

LET ME IN CLOSING HERE.

I THAT'S MY LIST OF CRITIQUES.

LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS REAL QUICK.

YOU GUYS ARE CREATIVE GUYS.

YOU'RE GOOD POLITICIANS.

YOU COULD GRANDFATHER IN EXISTING HOUSES.

AND THEN IF SOMEONE NEEDED A NEW DRAIN FIELD OR, OR WELL, AND YOU COULD FORCE THEM TO HOOK UP OR WHEN THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, YOU COULD MANDATE A HOOKUP. UM, ONE THING I'LL COMPLIMENT YOU GUYS ON.

YOU GRANT A LOT OF VARIANCES HERE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FLEXIBILITY.

I WISH THE CODES WEREN'T SO INFLEXIBLE, BUT YOU GRANT A LOT OF THEM.

YOU CAN YOU COULD PASS THIS ORDINANCE AND GRANT A VARIANCE TO IT.

AND ONE MORE THING.

UH, THANK YOU SIR. WE SEEN YOU.

WE GIVE SENIOR CITIZENS EXEMPTIONS ON EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, PASTOR KEN DELGADO.

KEN DELGADO, 154 ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

MERRY CHRISTMAS. DO WANT TO SAY, UH, RANDY COUNCILMAN RANDY FOSTER THAT YOU MAY GET WELL QUICKLY.

AND, UH, THANK GOD THAT HE WAS ABLE TO BE AT THE GREAT CHRISTMAS TREE, UH, PRESENTATION THAT THE CITY OFFERED.

UH, I'D LIKE TO TAG ON THE ISSUE AS FAR AS THE SEPTIC TANKS ARE CONCERNED AND MANDATORY HOOKUPS AS A SUGGESTION.

THIS IS NOT A COMPLAINT HERE.

IT'S A SUGGESTION.

UH, THERE'S A PLACE WHERE WE WE CAN DO WHAT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED.

THAT AND WE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, LAWYERS ARE GOOD AT DOING LEGALLY REQUIRED.

BUT THEN BUT THEN THERE'S THE CAPACITY TO GO BEYOND WHAT IS LEGALLY REQUIRED.

UH, LAST TIME WE MET, IN REFERENCE TO THIS, THEY MENTIONED, WELL, WE A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND SAID, WELL, WE DID IT.

HAVE IT UP ON THE WEBSITE.

AND LEGALLY, THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS PUT IT UP ON THE WEBSITE AND THEREFORE YOU HAVE ANNOUNCED IT.

BUT WHAT IF ON ISSUES THAT WE KNOW ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE GREATER PALM BAY, I MEAN, YOU HAVE VARIANCES, YOU HAVE, UH, BUYING LINE ITEMS THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BUY IT, DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO WITH IT, WE TRUST YOU, ETC.

BUT IF THERE HAPPENS TO BE SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS EVERY PERSON IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND YOU KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A HOT TICKET ITEM RATHER THAN JUST GOING TO THE MINIMUM WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES.

WHAT IF WE GO BEYOND BECAUSE WE CARE? WHAT IF WE GO A MORE ABUNDANTLY ABOVE ALL THAT WE CAN THINK, ASK FOR, SO TO SPEAK? AND WE ACTUALLY ADVISE THE THE WHOLE OF PALM BAY.

THIS ITEM IS COMING UP VIA MAIL.

WHAT IF WE GO BEYOND WHAT JUST IS LEGALLY REQUIRED JUST BECAUSE WE CARE AND AND YOU PRESENT YOUR POSITION BEFOREHAND? THIS IS THE REASONS WHY WE ARE COMING TO THIS CONCLUSION SO THAT THE GREATER PALM BAY KNOWS ABOUT IT.

THEY FEEL VALUED BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY INFORMED THEM.

YOU WENT BEYOND WHAT WAS JUST LEGALLY REQUIRED.

YOU WENT TO THE PLACE WHERE LOVE WENT BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED, AS WE DO IN MARRIAGES.

AND WE ACTUALLY TELL EVERYBODY THIS LINE ITEM IS COMING UP.

YOU NEED TO BE INVOLVED OR BE INFORMED.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

AND THEN NOBODY GETS CAUGHT UNAWARES OR TWO WEEKS LATER, A MONTH LATER, OR WHEN THEY'RE MANDATED TO HOOK UP BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT HAPPENED. THINKING THROUGH WHAT IF WE WENT BEYOND JUST WHAT'S REQUIRED? A THOUGHT. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. CHARLES SOTO.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, BEEN A WHILE.

UM, OFF THE CUFF HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO GET ON RECORD THAT, UM, IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN TERMS OF, UH, THE COMPOUND, UH, THE MAJORS, THE WILDLIFE OUT THERE.

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UM, IF YOU ALL HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, I GO OUT THERE IN THE BACKYARD AND I HAVE THESE LIGHTS, AND I GOT THREE HUGE ATVS THAT GO UP AND DOWN FROM ABOUT 6:00 TO ABOUT 8:00.

SO I GO OUT THERE AND SHINE IT ON THERE, AND THEY DUCK AND THEY GO OVER TO NUMBER WHOLE NUMBER SEVEN.

THEY'RE BIG.

THEY'RE NOT LITTLE TOYS AND THEY'RE DEFIANT.

THEY DON'T CARE.

THEY RIDE AROUND THE LAKE AS SOON AS SOMEBODY GOES INTO A SAND BUNKER THAT'S ALREADY BEEN CLOSED OFF BY THE GRASS, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO HAVE A TRUCK OUT THERE, FIRE TRUCK, EMT, COPS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE OWNERS GOING OUT THERE NOW, PATROLLING THE PLACE IN HER TRUCK SO THAT THAT AREA IS A BAD PLACE.

NOW, YOU GET PEOPLE KILLED IN THE COMPOUND BECAUSE THEY DRIVE BY AND DO WHAT THEY WANT AND HAVE A, UH, THEY HAVE THEIR ATVS AND EVERYTHING.

OKAY. THIS IS WHAT IT'S COMING OUT TO BE ON THAT NEXT DOOR.

SOMEBODY SAID, WE NEED TO HAVE A DOG PARK.

AND I SAID, YOU GOT ONE.

THE MAJORS. YOU KNOW HOW MANY DOGS ARE OUT THERE AT NIGHT? 2025 FAMILIES WALKING AROUND.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GET BIT BY A RATTLESNAKE? WHO THEY'RE GOING TO COME AND YELL AT YOU.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO YELL AT ME.

I WAS AT PUBLIX A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO IN A SHOPPING CENTER OVER HERE.

THE CARS ARE LINED UP.

BEEF O'BRADY'S SUBWAY.

LIN'S GARDEN, THE KOREAN PLAY, UH, THE BANK ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT WHOLE STRETCH.

EVERYONE, THERE WAS A CAR IN FRONT.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH IN NEW YORK WHEN A CAR DRIVES UP IN FRONT OF A BODEGA? THREE GUYS GET OUT AND KILL SOMEBODY.

WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS HAPPENING HERE? THIS COULD BE A SETUP.

PEOPLE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK THERE.

A GUY WALKS OUT BETWEEN THE CARS.

HE'S DEAD BECAUSE THERE'S NO ROOM FOR TWO CARS.

I CALLED THE POLICE.

OH, I CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THEY LAUGHED AT ME, CALLED THE POLICE.

THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT.

NEVER GOT A WORD BACK.

A BETTER WAKE UP WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE WE HAD A GUY KILLED THERE THE OTHER NIGHT.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE WAS KILLED, BUT MY WIFE WATCHED IT AND SHE SAYS IT WAS HORRIFIC.

SO WHEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN THAT ROAD AND YOU'RE POPPING OUT OF THE LIQUOR STORE WITH A BOTTLE OF BOOZE IN YOUR HAND, YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.

AND AN F250 COMES DOWN WITH THEM BIG WIDE MIRRORS AND TAKES YOU OFF AT THE NECK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE GOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU.

JUST SO THAT I UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PUBLIC SHOPPING CENTER, THE STOREFRONTS, PEOPLE ARE PARKING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STOREFRONT AND GOING INTO THE STORE IN FRONT OF THE BANK.

OKAY, IN FRONT OF THE SMOKE SHOP.

OKAY. IN FRONT OF PUBLIX.

ALL RIGHT. SO ALL ALONG THAT CORNER, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE THING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE FATALITIES.

THANK YOU SIR. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW, PERHAPS WE COULD ASSIGN SOMEHOW POLICE THAT AREA BECAUSE IF IT IS GOING TO CAUSE A SAFETY ISSUE, THEN MAYBE WE.

PART OF THE ISSUE CERTAINLY IS THAT.

AND I CAN CERTAINLY HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF TALK TO MR. ZOTO ABOUT IT AND HE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH ME AS WELL.

BUT PART OF THE ISSUE TYPICALLY IS THESE ARE, UM, PRIVATE SHOPPING CENTERS.

AND SO THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO DECIDE TO ENFORCE THESE ISSUES.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK FURTHER AT IT.

I'M SURE WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS BEFORE IN THE AREA, VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED NOT TOO LONG AGO IN THAT SHOPPING PLAZA.

SO I'LL WORK WITH THE POLICE ABOUT THAT.

AND THAT WAS RIGHT AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.

IT WASN'T IN ONE OF OUR STREETS.

CORRECT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BARTON.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, DECEMBER 7TH, 1941 2400.

DEATHS. WHEN JAPAN ATTACKED PEARL HARBOR, THAT WAS THE ATTACK WAS BECAUSE OF SANCTIONS AND EMBARGOES PLACED UPON THEM.

DECEMBER 8TH, 1941 UNITED STATES DECLARED WAR ON JAPAN.

THEIR AND THEIR THEIR ALLIES THEN DECLARED WAR ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

US NOW IN WORLD WAR TWO SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001.

NEW YORK, THE PENTAGON AND PENNSYLVANIA 2977 DEATHS.

WHEN AL QAEDA MADE A TERRORIST ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

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2023 ATTACKS ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ALL AROUND THE WORLD FROM NUMEROUS GROUPS.

IT HAPPENED ONCE, IT HAPPENED TWICE.

IT'S HAPPENING NOW.

THE UNITED STATES IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO ATTACK.

STAY VISUAL AND NEVER FORGET THE FREEDOMS WE HAVE ARE NOT FREE.

THANKS TO ALL WHO FIGHT TO PROTECT THEM.

LET'S NOT FORGET PEARL HARBOR.

THANK YOU. ROAR! BUTCHER IN. THANK YOU, I GOT YOU.

EXCUSE ME. BUTCHER. ROUND TWO, 19 TRENTON AVENUE.

UM, LET ME START WITH THE EASY STUFF AND THEN WORK INTO THE HARD STUFF.

UM, THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT, THE MONIES THAT THE CITY WAS SUPPOSED TO GET.

DID WE EVER GET THAT? AND IF SO, HOW MUCH AND WHERE DID IT GO? THE PLACEMENT OF STAY ALERT SIGNS.

IT'S A LITTLE SIGNS THAT THE, UH, HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT WILL ISSUE IF THERE'S BEEN A DEATH ON THE ROAD.

HOW MANY DO WE HAVE IN PALM BAY? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY.

I'VE SEEN ONE OVER ON WATSON.

IT'S A STAY ALERT.

IT'S A LITTLE ROUND SIGN AND IT SAYS STAY ALERT.

AND THEY PUT IT UP WHERE THERE'S BEEN A DEATH ON THE ROADWAY.

MM. AND I HEARD SOMEONE MENTION HERE ABOUT FLOODING.

FLOODING IS OCCURRING BECAUSE THE TRENCHES ARE DRAINAGE DITCHES.

WHATEVER TITLE YOU WANT TO PUT ON THEM HAVE NOT BEEN DONE IN THIS CITY THROUGHOUT.

IF YOU CALL IT, COME OUT TO YOUR HOUSE, THEY CLEAN IT OUT.

THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL CLOSED UP.

ALL YOU GOT TO DO IS DRIVE UP AND DOWN JUPITER, GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, LOOK AROUND.

THEY'RE CLOSED UP.

THE WATER HAS NOWHERE TO GO.

I NOW HAVE A MUCK FIELD IN MY FRONT YARD.

MY NEIGHBOR HAS A MUG FEEL ON TOP OF HER.

WELL, HEAD AND MUCK IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN OUR WATERWAYS.

IT'S NASTY.

IT'S LIKE A VIRUS.

IT JUST GROWS.

THE EASY ONE IS THE FLAG ON OSMOSIS.

THE GREAT BIG FLAG NEED TO REPLACE THAT THING.

IT'S TETHERED AND TORN.

MINTON ROAD, IT WAS GOING TO BE PAVED IN NOVEMBER.

IT'S DECEMBER.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING COME OUT.

FILL THE HOSE AGAIN.

AND THERE'S A DRIVE AROUND THE CITY.

I SEE FEEDER ROADS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT'S COMPLETELY PAVED.

MADDEN ROAD IS AN EXAMPLE.

ALMOST SIX MILES, 20 HOUSES ON IT.

MINTON ROAD ALL DAY LONG.

TRAFFIC. AND IT'S ROUGH AS IT CAN BE.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHEN'S THE NEXT DATE FOR MINTON ROWE? AND I'D LIKE TO SAY HAPPY HANUKKAH TO ALL MY JEWISH FRIENDS.

THANK YOU. SO I WANT TO TAKE THE MADAM ATTORNEY.

THE OPIOID ISSUE.

UM. WOULD WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRIEF ON THE OPIOID? UH. NO.

I CAN BARELY TELL YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE MONEY.

YEAH, I'LL TAKE THAT, SIR.

OKAY. WE STARTED RECEIVING THE MONEY, UH, LAST DECEMBER.

IT WAS, UH, MAYBE 160,000 OR SO.

FOR THE FIRST AMOUNT, WE SHOULD GET AN ADDITIONAL, UM, SOME.

I WOULD EXPECT THIS THIS MONTH AS WELL.

UM, WE'RE JUST HOLDING IT IN OUR ACCOUNTS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY, UM, WHERE THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH AN APPROACH THAT COMBINES MULTIPLE FUNDS FROM MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, THE CITY AND COUNTY CITIES AND COUNTY FUNDS.

AND WE'RE WORKING ON A JOINT, UM, JOINT PROJECT, ESSENTIALLY TO USE THOSE FUNDS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO WHAT BREVARD COUNTY IS DOING RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A WHOLE COMMITTEE THAT'S DEDICATED TO, UM, A PROCESS THAT INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS THAT ARE GOING TO TRY TO USE THOSE FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THE OPIOID CRISIS.

AND THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC THINGS YOU CAN USE THE FUNDS FOR PER THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS.

SO ALL THAT IS PART OF THAT, THAT AGREEMENT, UM, WHERE THE COUNTY IS AT RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE UM, THEY HAVE RECEIVED, UM, PROPOSALS FROM DIFFERENT VENDORS. SO I'M HOPING THAT IN THE EARLY PART OF 24, WE'LL HAVE SOME UPDATES FROM THEM ON WHO'S GOING TO START RECEIVING THOSE FUNDS.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE THEM IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO UNTIL YOU KNOW THE TIME COMES TO SPEND THEM.

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OKAY. SO PART OF THAT WE HAVE FUNDS.

BUT YET THE COUNTY HAS IS GETTING SEPARATE FUNDS THAT WE COULD TAG INTO AS WELL.

IS THAT CORRECT? ESSENTIALLY WE'VE AH THE AGREEMENT THAT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, SOME MANY MONTHS BACK WAS TO COMBINE OUR RESOURCES WITH THE COUNTY'S RESOURCES.

AND OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. SO WE OUR RESOURCES ARE OUR RESOURCES.

CORRECT. IT WAS MORE UM, WE ALL BELIEVED AND THIS WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, THAT POOLING EVERYONE'S FUNDING BECAUSE SOME SOME CITIES GET SMALLER AMOUNTS, $160,000 IS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO SOMETHING, BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT.

BUT PUTTING ALL THE DOLLARS TOGETHER, THE STRATEGY IS LET'S DO MORE COUNTYWIDE.

THANK YOU. AND THEN, UH, THE STAY ALERT.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, THOSE ARE.

WELL, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A PROGRAM TO PUT THOSE SIGNS UP, SO I BELIEVE THOSE ARE IT DOES HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE STATE, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO REQUEST IT.

SO I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH ANY PROGRAM WHERE WE'VE EVER PUT THEM UP.

BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT WHAT THE STATE HAS THAT THEY SHOW IS SOMEWHERE RELATED TO PALM BAY, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT OTHER THAN ON STATE ROADS LIKE WE HAVE THE ONE TO IT. FURTHER TO MYSELF. YEAH, I'LL CERTAINLY ASSIGN STAFF TO DO THAT.

OKAY. UM, AND THEN I.

BUTCH, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO THAT DRAINAGE FIELD ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE THE CLEANING OF THE DREDGE, I THINK.

YES, SIR. I SAW VALENTINO OUT THERE.

HE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU.

IF YOU GO LOCK ARMS WITH HIM REGARDING THAT.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THE SUGGESTION I HAVE FOR THAT IS POSSIBLY PUTTING IT TO AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR TO DO THE WHOLE CITY TO GET ALL THESE DRAIN FIELDS, DRAINAGE DITCHES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TITLE IS ON THEM TO GET THEM CLEANED UP.

COPY THAT. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK. GOING WORK WITH, UH, VALENTINO, AND WE'LL SEE WHERE WE'RE AT.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. THANKS. AND THEN SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY PERTURBED ABOUT IS THE TETHERED FLAG.

UH, CERTAINLY. IS THAT DOWN, SIR? WILL I ASSUME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE AT THE UTILITIES PLANT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT.

THAT'S, UM. AND THEN LAST THING, NOBODY SEES IT.

HARDLY ANYBODY DRIVES UP AND DOWN ANYTHING.

AND I GO OUT THERE QUITE OFTEN JUST TO BE NOSY.

MR. RYAN, I WOULD I WOULD ATTEST TO THAT.

I'VE, I'VE I'VE NOTICED IT.

OKAY. YEAH, I'VE NOTICED IT.

YEAH. IT CERTAINLY NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.

OKAY. WELL TAKE CARE. THANK YOU.

THANKS. AND I WANTED TO CLARIFY, SIR, ON MINTON ROAD, THAT THE, UM, WHAT I HAD HEARD FROM STAFF WAS THAT WE WERE PUTTING OUT THE BID PROPOSAL IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER, NOT THAT THE ROAD WOULD BE DONE.

UH, AND STAFF CAN CONFIRM THAT IT IS OUT OR GOING OUT FOR ME, I WOULD HOPE.

GOING OUT. WHEN WILL IT BE GOING OUT? IT'S PUSHED OUT TO FEBRUARY NOW.

OKAY. YOU CAN'T BOOST THAT.

COME ON GUYS, THAT'S THE MOST HEAVY TRAFFIC.

CAN WE CAN WE AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT ANY POTHOLES ARE FILLED? THE POTHOLES ARE FILLED, BUT THEY'RE FILLED UNEVENLY.

COPY THAT SIR. UNDERSTOOD.

I MEAN, JUST TAKE ANOTHER. THANK YOU BUTCH.

THANK YOU. BUTCH. THANKS.

OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE, MR. NATHAN WHITE.

NATHAN WHITE, 1301 SEABREEZE STREET, SOUTHWEST.

UH, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO WISH A HAPPY HANUKKAH TO ALL OF MY JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS AS, UH, THAT SEASON BEGINS TONIGHT.

AND THANK THE MAYOR ALSO FOR BRINGING FORWARD RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 42 TONIGHT.

UH, REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM AND, UH, RECOGNIZING THE GROWING PROBLEM THAT, UH, POSES.

I WANTED TO MENTION IT'S HAPPENED THREE TIMES, I BELIEVE, NOW THAT I'VE NOTICED, UH, WHERE A RESIDENT HAS ASKED ABOUT ENFORCEMENT OF THE MANDATE TO CONNECT TO CITY SEWER AND CITY WATER, AND EVERY TIME THE ANSWER HAS BEEN, WE DON'T KNOW YET.

WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

WE'LL WORK SOMETHING OUT, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, SOMETHING FAIRLY AMBIGUOUS WHEN IT COMES TO HOW DO WE ENFORCE THIS? OR HOW IS WHAT IS THERE A PENALTY IF WE DON'T? UH, I WAS HOPING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THE ANSWER SEEMS TO BE RIGHT IN THE ORDINANCE SECTION 203.30 UNDER CONNECTION FEES AND ENFORCEMENT, SUBSECTION C, RIGHT AFTER TALKING ABOUT, UH, PAYMENT PLANS OR FINANCING OPTIONS, SAYS WHERE A PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT CONNECTED TO THE SEWER UTILITY OR POTABLE WATER UTILITY WITHIN ONE YEAR OF RECEIVING THE FINAL NOTICE DESCRIBED IN SECTION 203.04 OR SECTION 203.06 HEREIN, THE CONNECTION FEES ATTRIBUTED TO SUCH PROPERTY MAY BE COLLECTED AS A NON-AD VALOREM SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.

PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 56 OF THE CODE.

NOW IN IN I'M.

UNLESS I'M READING THAT WRONG, THAT MEANS IF SOMEONE REFUSES TO CONNECT AND THEY REACH THE ONE YEAR MARK, ALL OF THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR CONNECTION THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE WILL SIMPLY SHOW UP ON THEIR NEXT TAX BILL.

SO THEY MAY NOT WANT TO CONNECT TO CITY WATER FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT A DRINKING WELL DOES NOT AFFECT THE LAGOON AT ALL.

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UH, OR CITY SEWER NOT WANT TO CONNECT, MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE SPILLAGE THAT HAPPENS OR THE FEES.

AND THEY MAY FIND THAT THEIR TAX BILL ARRIVES APPROXIMATELY OR AROUND $15,000 HIGHER THAN NORMAL.

AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THIS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION.

THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY.

MAYOR. ALL OF THE POSSIBLE REMEDIES THAT THE CITY COULD EMPLOY ARE LISTED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.

AND AS FAR AS ANY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, IT DOESN'T JUST POP UP.

YOU KNOW, THAT IS A STATUTORY PROCESS THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO PASS.

IT IS UNLIKELY TO BE A REMEDY THAT THE CITY WOULD EMPLOY, BUT ANY POSSIBLE REMEDY THAT WE COULD USE THAT IS LEGAL IS PLACED IN THE ORDINANCE.

AND THAT'S WHY IT SAYS MAY AS A PERMISSIVE.

IT INCLUDES ANY POSSIBLE REMEDIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, BUT IT DOES NOT MANDATE THAT HAPPEN.

AND OF COURSE, ANY SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, THERE IS A PROCESS, A STATUTORY PROCESS.

THERE'S NOTICE THERE'S A DUE PROCESS.

AND SO IT WOULD NOT JUST POP UP, BUT AS I SAID, IT'S UNLIKELY TO BE A REMEDY THE CITY USES.

IT'S JUST A REMEDY THAT IS AVAILABLE.

SO IT WAS LISTED. THANK YOU MA'AM.

AND NEXT SPEAKER MAYOR THIS CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT SIR.

THANK YOU SIR. SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, UH, WE'RE ON, UH, CONSENT AT THIS TIME.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

YES, MAYOR.

UM. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE FOLLOWING AGENDA ITEM FOUR, SEVEN, EIGHT, 12 AND 14.

AGENDA ITEMS FOUR, SEVEN, EIGHT, EIGHT AND 14, 12 AND 14.

SECOND 12 AND 14.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 42 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RECOGNIZING THE GROWING PROBLEM OF ANTISEMITISM IN THE UNITED STATES AND ADOPTED THE NON-BINDING INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE ALLIANCE.

IHRA WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RESOLUTION 20 2343 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING AND CONVEYING PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK TWO, PAGE FOUR.

THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 44 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SELLING AND CONVEYING PROPERTY AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK TWO, PAGE FOUR OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE'RE NOW GOING ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MISS SHERMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR.

MR. BILL BATTEN? UM, NO.

WE ACTUALLY MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THIS TIME.

PUBLIC HEARINGS. LET'S COPY THAT, THEN GO BACK.

YES. SIR, ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

MISS SMITH. ORDNANCE.

2020 3-105 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR TEN FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 15, LOT 2124, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 42.

ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 21, PAGE 114 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.

COLSON. YES.

PETULA'S. YES.

PLEASE STEP FORWARD, SIR.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JOHN PETROS.

I'M THE OWNER OF 937 CAMDEN AVE, NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

I'M HERE TO REQUEST A VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE EASEMENT OCCUPIED BY AN EXISTING SHED.

AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ALL RIGHT, SIR, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

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ANY COMMENTS? GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I I.

YOU JUST PASSED THE FIRST HEARING.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM TWO.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOOD.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MISS SMITH.

YES, MAYOR. THIS IS THE FINAL ORDER FOR THE DENIAL OF THE RESOLUTION.

2320 2338.

THIS WAS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE OF THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY.

CERTAINLY, WHEN YOU APPROVE IT, THE ORDER IS A RESOLUTION.

BUT WHEN THERE IS A DENIAL AND A RESOLUTION, AN ORDER HAS TO BE CREATED.

SO THE ORDER WAS CREATED BASED UPON THE COMMENTS MADE BY COUNSEL AND THE RECORD AND THE APPLICABLE LAW IS ATTACHED.

SO I'M ASKING THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE ORDER.

THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY MR. JOHNSON OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE OR MISS MISS SMITH.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS THREE, FOUR, AND 21.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

INDIVIDUAL. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.03 PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

RESOLUTION 20 2345 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RETAIL, AUTOMOTIVE, GAS, FUEL SALES, AND NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTIES GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF EMERSON DRIVE AND GLYNCOED AVENUE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE.

PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

YES, MA'AM. WHEN YOU FIRST BEGAN, YOU MENTIONED, UH, WHAT WHAT WERE THE ITEMS THAT YOU MENTIONED WERE QUASI-JUDICIAL.

CAN YOU REPEAT THOSE THREE ITEMS? THREE, FOUR AND 21? OKAY. I.

THREE FOUR AND FIVE FIVE.

I'M SORRY. MY. I DID NOT EDIT THE LAST NUMBER ON MY SCRIPT.

THANK THANK YOU MA'AM.

THREE, FOUR AND FIVE.

CORRECT? YES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE ON ITEM THREE.

UH, AND SO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE ITEM NUMBER THREE.

SUNRISE PLAZA.

FOR SUNRISE PLAZA.

YES. NUMBER THREE.

YES, SIR. SUNRISE PLAZA NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RICHARD FRANZBLAU.

I, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, SUNRISE PLAZA ENTERPRISES, INC., AND THE PRINCIPAL OF SUNRISE PLAZA IS HERE, ALONG WITH THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

UH, YESTERDAY EVENING, WE PRESENTED, UH, OUR APPLICATION BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, WHICH WAS HEARD,

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AND THE PLANNING BOARD APPROVED OUR APPLICATION, AND IT WAS, UH, FORWARDED ON TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS EVENING.

AND THE PLANNING BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL.

UH, THE MAIN ISSUE HAD TO DO WITH, UH, THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE GAS STATION ON THE PROPERTY.

IT'S THREE ACRES ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GLEN COVE, AND, UH, EMERSON AND SUNRISE PLAZA IS LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND DEVELOPING A PROJECT THAT PALM BAY COULD BE PROUD OF.

SO SUBMITTING OUR APPLICATION, THERE'S A PACKET WITH CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS WHICH HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL AS WELL TO RETAIL SHOPS AND THE GAS STATION.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? MAYOR, IF I MAY.

YES, SIR.

HOW WAS THE, UH, THE, UM, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING? HOW WAS THE OVERALL SENTIMENT OF THE OF THE RESIDENTS? WELL, I THINK THERE'S, UH, THE RESIDENTS.

SO WE HAD A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING, HAD A FAIR AMOUNT OF, UH, PEOPLE COME OUT, UH, TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS.

AND THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT A FEW ITEMS, THINKING THAT HAVING A GAS STATION AND A CONVENIENCE STORE MIGHT INCREASE CRIME.

AND THEY FELT IT WAS CLOSE TO A SCHOOL AND THAT, UH, JUVENILES WOULD MAYBE HANG OUT AT THE PROPERTY.

ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE WERE, UH, PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED WHO WERE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL.

I KNOW I DROVE BY THERE A FEW TIMES, AND THERE'S NOT, UH, TOO MUCH IN THE WAY OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THERE FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA. AND, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT UP 24 HOUR LIGHTING, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.

AND ARE YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU SAY, UM, WERE PRESENT? UH, I'D SAY I COUNTED, LIKE, 40 OR SO.

UH, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO CAME IN, UH, SIGNED THEIR NAME, AND THAT'S IN THE PACKET THAT WE PROVIDED.

OKAY. SO WOULD YOU SAY A 50 OVER 50, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME IN FAVOR AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, UH, I THINK PEOPLE WHO WERE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT CAME OUT AND ALL THE ALL THEIR CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED DURING THAT MEETING.

UH, WELL, WE CERTAINLY LISTENED TO IT.

OKAY. AND, UH, SAID WE WOULD TRY AND WORK WITH EVERYONE.

AND I KNOW, UH, MR. ALI HAD SOME FOLLOW UP WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND TALK TO THEM AND WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH EVERYBODY TO TO COME OUT TO A FAVORABLE RESOLUTION THAT WILL BENEFIT EVERYONE.

OKAY. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU SAID IT'LL BE, UH, NOW THERE'S ADDITIONAL RETAIL, UH, RETAIL SPACE AS WELL, BESIDES THE GAS STATION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. DO YOU KNOW ABOUT HOW BIG AND HOW HOW MANY? WELL, UH, THERE'S THREE ACRES ON THE PROPERTY.

THE GAS STATION AREA TAKES UP ABOUT 3000FT².

OKAY. AND THERE'LL BE, UH, POSSIBILITIES.

ANYTHING FROM RETAIL, RESTAURANT, UH, TO, LIKE, REAL REALTORS OFFICES AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A MIXED USE PROJECT.

OKAY, LAST QUESTION.

I HAVE WE, UH, BEEN IN CONTACT WITH ANY POSSIBLE TENANTS, AND IF SO, CAN YOU SHARE? I DON'T THINK, UH, THERE HAS AT THIS POINT, UH.

YEAH. WE JUST WAITING.

YEAH, WE'RE VERY PRELIMINARY, SO WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT STEP YET.

NOW, IN YOUR PLAN, IS THERE A PLAN FOR SIDEWALKS AS WELL? OH, YES. WELL, THERE ARE ALREADY OFF SITE, UH, SIDEWALKS ON BOTH STREETS.

OKAY. AND THE PLANNING BOARD SAID THAT PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THE PROJECT SITE THAT WOULD, UH, CONNECT TO THOSE SIDEWALKS.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

ACCORDING TO THESE, YOU HAVE, LIKE, FOUR COMMERCIAL ENTITIES.

AND IN THE ILLUSTRATION, RIGHT, RIGHT.

THERE'S A KFC, WHICH I'LL SAY I'LL THINK POPEYES AND SAID THERE'S A DOMINO'S PIZZA, WHICH I'LL SAY PAPA JOHN'S, AND THEN THERE'S A

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STARBUCKS, UH, AS AN EXAMPLE, AND THEN A JERSEY MIKE'S OR A SANDWICH SHOP.

UM. WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE? I MEAN, BECAUSE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS, IS A NICE ILLUSTRATION HERE, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND I'M THINKING THAT'S THAT'S JOB CREATION, RIGHT? YOU'RE PUTTING THESE, UH, BIG COMPANIES THAT DO EMPLOY PEOPLE, RIGHT? SO, UM.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS WISHFUL THINKING, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S ACCURATE AS FAR AS WHAT THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE NEEDS ARE? RIGHT? AND IS IT POSSIBLE TO MEET THIS THIS ILLUSTRATION? WELL, I WOULD SAY, UM, THE BUILDING ITSELF WOULD BE LARGE ENOUGH FOR DIFFERENT RETAIL UNITS.

HOW MANY WOULD DEPEND ON WHO ACTUALLY WANTS TO GO IN THERE? UH, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A VERY.

SO WHAT IS THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT BUILDING? BECAUSE FROM WHAT I'M SEEING IN THIS ILLUSTRATION, YOU GOT FOUR STORES, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THEN YOU HAVE SEPARATELY, UH, YOU HAVE THE, THE GAS STATION.

RIGHT? 3000.

AND THAT'S 3000FT².

LET ME ASK YOU.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIC, SEE THOSE.

AND THEN YOU GOT ALL THESE, ALL THESE.

THAT'S IN THE. THERE YOU GO.

THANK YOU. HI. YES, SIR.

YEAH. SO THE THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ABOUT SPEAKING TO THE MIC, BROTHER.

THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE.

THE SHOPPING CENTER IS ABOUT 28,000 SQUARE FOOT, 28,000FT².

WE HAVE ALSO MEDICAL CENTER, YOU KNOW, UH, MEDICAL CENTER, REAL ESTATE OFFICE AND SOME RETAIL, UH, SPACE AS WELL.

AND OUR POINT, UH, TARGET IS TO CREATE A JOB AND AND HAVE A NICE, UH, SHOPPING PLAZA IN THIS AREA.

WELL, I, I LIKE THE RENDITION THAT YOU PROVIDED.

THIS ILLUSTRATION. I JUST WANT US WHERE I'M PROBING IS THE ACCURACY OF THIS ILLUSTRATION.

RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU EVEN HAVE, LIKE, A LITTLE FOUNTAIN IN THE FRONT.

YEAH, YEAH.

CORRECT. WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELEGANT, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, IN THE PAST, WE HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE SHOPPING CENTER, AND YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO WATCH THE KIND OF WORK WE DO.

AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LIKE THAT.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN IN PALM BAY.

YEAH. THE LANDSCAPING THAT THE ILLUSTRATION YOU'RE PROVIDING IS, IS REALLY NICE.

I JUST, UH, MY MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIVE TOO FAR FROM THERE.

IF I COULD GO TO JERSEY MIKE'S RIGHT DOWN THE STREET OR SO, I WOULDN'T MIND GOING TO JERSEY MIKE'S IF THERE'S ONE THERE, THAT'S ALL.

SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GAUGE HOW REALISTIC THIS THIS FOOTPRINT IS.

OH, IT'S REAL BECAUSE MY ENGINE IS RIGHT HERE.

SO OKAY. HE DESIGNED IT AND WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE ENGINEERING DESIGN.

OKAY. SO, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COMMENT, SIR? YES. THIS IS BRUCE TAYLOR.

UH, 131 EAST SAINT CLOUD.

UM, AND YOU'RE THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

CIVIL ENGINEER. I DIDN'T DO THE RENDERINGS, BUT I DID DO THE SITE PLAN AND THE SITE PLAN.

WE HAVE THE RETAIL SPACES AND WE ALSO HAVE OFFICE, SO I DON'T THINK I THINK THE OFFICE.

SO THIS, THIS, THIS RENDERING IS ACTUALLY PRETTY REALISTIC.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE OFFICE IN IT ALSO WHICH ISN'T SHOWN.

SO OTHER THAN THAT IF IF YOU CAN GET THE TENANTS IN THERE, YES, IT WOULD BE.

WE WOULD LIKE THEM.

I MEAN I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE ANY, ANY LEASES IN PLACE, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COME IN THERE.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.

YEAH. NO IT DOES BECAUSE THE WAY I SEE THIS IS IT'S A SHOPPING PLAZA WITH MULTIPLE STORES.

RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN THE GAS STATION IS SEPARATE TO THAT.

CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT.

IF YOU LOOK AT MY IF YOU LOOK AT MY CONCEPT PLAN.

YEAH IT SHOWS THE GAS AND IT ACTUALLY THERE IS A GAS STATION WITH A RESTAURANT.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO RETAIL WHICH SHOWS ON THE RENDERING.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE OFFICE THAT WOULD BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

I THINK YOU WILL VERY PLEASED.

SO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK ON THE MIC, SIR, I.

I THINK WHEN WE DONE THIS PROJECT, YOU WILL VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.

YEAH. THE. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

YEAH. AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WOULD BE CREATING JOBS.

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UH, BASED ON THE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE THE THE THE FOUNTAIN, ALL IT NEEDS IS THAT, UH, SPRAYING EFFECT, I GUESS, TO TO COMPLETE THE ILLUSTRATION.

BUT THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS.

UH COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN.

I WANT TO ASK COUNCILMAN FOSTER WHO'S JOINING US REMOTELY? COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. NO, MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE NO COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO.

ASKED TO SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO COMMENT ON.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. DON'T DON'T GO FAR.

I'LL BE CALLING YOU BACK.

OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR.

DO YOU HAVE A SPEAKER? UH, I CAN READ IT.

UH, IS IT SUZANNE? OKAY. HELLO, I'M SUZANNE KURZ AND I LIVE AT 1463 JASPER AVENUE. UM, IN REFERENCE TO THESE GENTLEMEN.

IT'S A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.

I'M SORRY TO SAY, WHEN THEY SENT OUT THESE, UM, BROCHURES, THEY WERE SHOWING FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC.

EMERSON AND GLEN COVE ARE ONLY TWO LANES.

THERE'S NO WAY THEY CAN JUSTIFY ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE OVER THERE.

WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE CHILD KILLED RIGHT THERE IN GLEN COVE IN EMERSON.

WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER CHILD TO DIE THERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC WITH THE SCHOOLS, THE HIGH SCHOOLS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS RIGHT THERE.

MY CHILD USED TO GO TO THAT SCHOOL.

THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS THAT WALK, AND NOT ALL OF IT IS WALKABLE.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SIDEWALKS, BUT NOT ON BOTH SIDES.

AND IF YOU GO DOWN GLEN COVE, THERE'S NOT ALWAYS SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES EITHER.

AND WHEN YOU GO OVER TO THE ONE SIDE OF GLEN COVE, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

MY CONCERN IS FOR THE CHILDREN, BASICALLY.

AND IF THEY SAID WHEN THEY SEND OUT ALL THIS INFORMATION, THERE'S NO WAY THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS.

THIS IS A PIPE DREAM THAT THEY'VE GOT.

IT WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THAT.

I GUARANTEE YOU LATER ON WHAT THE FOUNTAINS AND ALL OF THAT.

AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE MORE SCHOOL GUARDS, I THINK OVER THERE FOR CROSSING.

I'M JUST AFRAID FOR THE KIDS, BASICALLY BECAUSE IT IS TOO CLOSE TO THE MIDDLE.

THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER. THIS IS IT.

NO OTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DID YOU WANT TO COME AND REBUT, UH, AT THIS TIME? WELL, THE TWO THINGS.

SIR, WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE MIC.

YES, SIR. UH.

TWO THINGS. ONE IS I WOULD MENTION THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WENT THROUGH THE EIGHT ELEMENTS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT EACH OF THOSE WERE ANALYZED.

AND IN THE OPINION OF THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, THEY WERE SATISFIED, INCLUDING TRAFFIC.

AND THEY ALSO SAID THERE WILL BE A REQUIREMENT FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, AND PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS SO THAT WE COULD, UH, ANALYZE THAT.

AND THERE IS, OF COURSE, THE STOPLIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION ALREADY.

SO. OKAY.

UM, I DO HAVE SO AND I KNOW THERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT I FREQUENT THAT CORRIDOR AS WELL.

RIGHT. AND SO, UH, I'M THINKING GOING WESTWARD, I WOULD WANT A LEFT TURN LANE BECAUSE THAT IS A FREQUENTLY TRAVELED.

SO, UM, I GUESS IT'S BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT CERTAINLY AN EGRESS, UH, GOING EAST IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD TODAY. AND A LEFT TURN LANE IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD TODAY.

ALSO, WHAT I WANT TO SAY, AND VERY MUCH LIKE WE DID WITH THE, UH, PALM BAY ROAD PROJECT, THE 1611 MERIDIAN, UH, THEY PROVIDED A GREAT DYNAMIC ILLUSTRATION.

AND I WANT TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

I DON'T WANT ANY DEVIATION FOR ME.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD ACTUALLY SAY THIS, UM, BUT I, I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF I LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND I SEE A DEVIATED, I WOULDN'T WANT IT TO GO FORWARD.

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I WOULD WANT IT STIPULATED THAT THE THE ON THE RECORD, WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE TO ME WITH THE THE FOUNTAIN AND ALL THE LANDSCAPING AND THE, THE GAS STATION TO THE SIDE, UM, WITH ALL THESE RENTAL OPPORTUNITIES, MEDICAL OFFICES, BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS IT APPEARS TO BE A QUALITY PROJECT.

NUMBER ONE, IT FITS THE OUR NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN CREATING JOBS.

IF WE DO GET LEASERS LIKE THIS, IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE, UH, WE DO HAVE THE ROOFTOP.

SO THEY WILL WANT TO BE INVESTORS THAT THAT CREATE BUSINESS THERE.

I WOULD WILL NOT WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THIS PLAN.

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, GENTLEMEN.

UH COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON DEPUTY MAYOR.

THE MAYOR, I MIGHT AS WELL SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

I WILL SUPPORT THE PROJECT.

I THINK THE AREA IS, UH, DESERVING OF SUCH, UH, UH, PROJECT BECAUSE THE CLOSEST, UM, IF I'M THINKING THE CLOSEST, UM, ANY, ANY KIND OF, UH, JUPITER IS MENTON.

SO I THINK THAT COMMUNITY CAN USE, UM, OF THE CONVENIENCE OF HAVING A GAS STATION OR ANY KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, EATERY AND, YOU KNOW, SUBWAYS AND SO ON.

BUT THE SAFETY CERTAINLY IS A CONCERN.

SURE. UM, THE MAYOR MENTIONED A TURNING LANE.

UM, I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S ONE WAY AT THE LIGHT OF ISN'T GLEN COVE.

GLEN COVE DO HAVE A LIGHT, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S A TURNING LANE RIGHT NOW.

SO SO CERTAINLY THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE, UH, BE CONSIDERED.

UM, SO SOME, SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT IN THAT INTERSECTION, UM, EGRESS AND EGRESS.

UH, SO, UM, I WOULD SUPPORT, YES, SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT AS FAR AS TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED.

I KNOW WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT CERTAINLY I WOULD, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT.

SO THAT WOULD BE JUST TO REITERATE, LIKE A CENTER CENTER TURN LANE, A TURN LANE TO MAKE SURE AND A AND A EGRESS GOING EASTWARD TO NOT TO IMPEDE IN THE TRAFFIC AS THEY FLOWS EASTWARD.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT IS THE CONNECTOR OF SAINT JOHN'S.

RIGHT. SO, UM, ALL RIGHT, SIR, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

UH, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, SIR? UM, NO.

YES. UH, I MEAN, RIGHT NOW, AS WE SPEAK, UH, WE ARE ALSO BUILDING 200,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, UH, SHOPPING CENTER IN, UH, POINCIANA.

KISSIMMEE. IN POINCIANA.

DID YOU SAY. OKAY.

AND, UH, WHATEVER WE SHOW IN THE PLAN THAT THE PROJECT WE DO, WE SWITCH AROUND THE THE WAY THE YOUNG WOMAN WAS SAYING, WE'RE GONNA NEVER DO THE PROJECT THE WAY WE SHOW.

SO WHATEVER IS IN THE PLAN, THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. OKAY, OKAY.

THANK YOU. JUST LET YOU KNOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM. YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN.

I CAN'T SAY ONE MORE THING.

NO, MA'AM. PLEASE.

NO, MA'AM. MA'AM, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER.

THANK YOU. NO OTHER SPEAKERS.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

UH, NOTHING ELSE TO REALLY ADD, MAYOR.

Y'ALL, Y'ALL HIT IT ON THE HEAD IN REGARDS TO TRAFFIC.

WE'LL HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY COME BACK, AND THEY'LL GIVE US MORE CONTEXT.

UM, I'M DEFINITELY JUST HAPPY TO SEE SOMETHING ELSE GOING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AREA RATHER THAN WHAT WE TEND TO SEE AND WHAT WE TEND TO SEE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ON FACEBOOK. SO, UM.

YES, SIR. SO I AM ENCOURAGED WITH THAT.

UM, I WENT TO, UH, SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH THERE'S A GAS STATION, THERE'S THE SHOPPING, UH, CENTER OVER THERE AND THE ESSER, YOU KNOW, THE SROS AND THE CROSS GUARDS WERE ALWAYS ON IT, EVEN WITH, YOU KNOW, UM, BUSINESS BEING DONE AT THE INTERSECTION.

UM, ON BOTH SIDES.

SO I'M ENCOURAGED THAT THE SROS AND, UM, SCHOOL, NOT SCHOOL RESOURCE, BUT THE CROSSING GUARDS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING.

UM, AND MONITOR THIS AREA, UH, ACCORDINGLY, IF IT DOES GO THROUGH AFTER THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF.

BUT I'M, I'M FEELING VERY CONFIDENT ON THIS, SIR.

SO THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR. NOTHING.

NOTHING TO ADD, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. UH, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, COUNCILMAN FOSTER? NO, MAN. ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAYING BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MISS SMITH.

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RESOLUTION 2023, DASH 46, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW ON PREMISE ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, ACCESSORY TO AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT AND B-MOVIE BAYFRONT.

MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY IN THE VICINITY, SOUTH OF ANGLERS DRIVE AND WEST OF RIDGE ROAD, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE.

PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK, UH, THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL.

UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY I ADMIRE HOW YOU GUYS TRY TO TACKLE, UM, THE PROBLEMS THAT I HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.

IMMEDIATELY. I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

I APPLAUD THAT. I THINK I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU GUYS.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

ANYWAY, SO WE ARE JUST TRYING TO REOPEN THE AUSSIE'S CRAB HOUSE, WHICH IS AN ICONIC, UH, PALM BAY RESTAURANT.

VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN HERE IN THE GREATEST CITY IN THE IN THE LAND.

UM, BUT I DON'T SEE US DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENT, ONLY MAYBE TRYING TO IMPROVE.

WHAT WAS THERE? UH, WE HAVE TREMENDOUS, UM, EXCITEMENT FROM THE FACEBOOK COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR RESTAURANT, WHICH WAS GETTING CRABBY, UH, ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF SOUTH OF HERE.

WE'RE RELOCATING IT.

ONCE I FOUND OUT THAT THIS SPOT WAS AVAILABLE, AND I HONESTLY DIDN'T KNOW WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE ZONING ISSUES, I THOUGHT IT WAS COMING IN HERE AND OPEN UP THE RESTAURANT IN A COUPLE MONTHS.

SO, UH, THIS HAS DRAGGED ON FOR LIKE FIVE MONTHS, AND IT'S BEEN A LITTLE TRYING, BUT, UM, AT FIRST I THOUGHT THERE WAS A CONSPIRACY AGAINST US, AND THEN I SAW THAT THIS IS ALL HOW IT'S GOT TO BE DONE HERE WITH THE CONDITIONAL USES.

UM, ANYWAY, THERE'S, UH, WE LOOK TO EMPLOY SOME OF THE PRIOR, UH, MANAGERS AND SUCH A LOT OF EXCITING, UH, EXCITEMENT FROM THE PEOPLE THAT USED TO WORK THERE THAT WANT TO COME BACK.

THEY LOVE THE SPOT.

I MYSELF TRAVELED UP HERE A COUPLE TIMES AND ATE THERE, AND AND, UH, THE WHOLE BLUE CRAB, UM, BRINGS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT TO THE AREA.

I WANT TO MAKE THIS RESTAURANT A FAMILY FRIENDLY PLACE AT PALM BAY SPROUT UP AGAIN, AND TOTALLY EXCITED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE.

I SHOULD SAY THANK YOU.

UM, YOU MENTIONED EMPLOYEES.

HOW MANY? HOW MANY FOLKS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? I WOULD IMAGINE WE'LL HAVE ABOUT, UH, 15 TO 20.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. OKAY.

SO. ALL RIGHT, ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER CARDS IN IN FULL, UH, TRANSPARENCY.

I DID NOT MEET WITH THE APPLICANT.

UH, HOWEVER, I WAS AT A PLACE, UH, AT AN ESTABLISHED ESTABLISHMENT WITH MY WIFE.

WE WERE AT, UH, RED GINGER IN MELBOURNE, IN THE SUNTREE AREA.

UH, WE HAD DINNER.

AND GRACE HAN, WHO OWNS BOTH RED GINGER'S JUST IN FULL DISCLOSURE.

I MET THE OWNERS AND THEY ATTEMPTED TO SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THIS, AND I SAID, I DON'T HAVE MEETINGS REGARDING QUASI JUDICIAL MATTERS, SO I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THIS.

BUT I KNEW THAT THIS WAS COMING BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD, UM, MY FULL DISCLOSURE OF MY INTERACTION WITH THE ACTUAL OWNERS OF THIS, OF THE PROPERTY OF THE PROPERTY AND NOT ME.

I DIDN'T KNOW I NEVER MET YOU, SIR, UNTIL TODAY.

BUT, UH, IN FULL DISCLOSURE, I MET THE ACTUAL OWNERS WHO ACTUALLY, THEY SENT ME AN EMAIL.

UH, AND I RESPONDED TO THAT EMAIL AND AND COPIED, UH, MADAM SHERMAN.

BUT I ACTUALLY MET THEM AFTER I HAD DINNER AT RED GINGER IN THE SUNTREE AREA.

UH, AT GRACE HAN.

THE OWNER IS GRACE HAN THAT OWNS THAT RESTAURANT.

THANK YOU SIR.

SO IN FULL DISCLOSURE, THERE'S NO SPEAKER CARDS.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO, SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN, I CAN'T FORGET, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANYTHING.

UH, YOU WANT TO ADD, COUNCILMAN FOSTER? NO, NO, NO, MAYOR, NOT AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN I, I, I, I PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 2023, DASH 47, A

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RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR AN EATING ESTABLISHMENT WITH SIDEWALK OUTDOOR TABLE SERVICE IN BMV BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT ZONING.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO DIXIE HIGHWAY AND THE VICINITY SOUTH OF ENGLISH DRIVE AND WEST OF RIDGE ROAD, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE. PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

AGAIN, THE SAME SITUATION.

AND JUST TO NOTE, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL SEATING THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, UM, FULFILL ALL THE OBLIGATIONS AND, AND GET ALL THE CORRECT PERMITS TO DO EVERYTHING THE RIGHT WAY.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVE. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT ACTUALLY IS COMING BACK BEFORE YOU.

YOU HAD ALREADY SEEN THIS ITEM SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE PAST YEAR.

UM, AND YOU HAD ADOPTED THESE VARIOUS CHANGES TO OUR PROGRAM FUNDING ALLOCATIONS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

AND SO THE REASON THIS IS COMING BACK IS WE HAD A CHANGE IN OUR HUD REP AT THE STATE LEVEL, AND THEY REQUIRED US TO DO AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC NOTICE TO MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS. SO WE'RE SIMPLY FULFILLING THEIR REQUEST.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MA'AM. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? GENTLEMEN. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE.

WE ARE NOW GOING BACK TO CONSENT.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA]

AND WE'LL GO TO.

YEAH. ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

$1,500,000 ANNUALLY.

THAT'S A NOTICEABLE AMOUNT OF CHANGE, RIGHT? ONE MORE TIME, $1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY.

YET YOU CAN WRITE OFF $10 MILLION INCOME FROM THE PEOPLE YOU MANDATED.

HOOK UP TO THE CITY WATER.

YET AT THE RESILIENCE WORKSHOP THAT WE HELD JUST THIS WEEK, THESE WILL BE THE PEOPLE WITHOUT WATER OR SEWER WITH A POWER OUTAGE ALONG WITH THE SEWER BACKUP GOES INTO THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THERE'S NO POWER FOR THE LIFT STATIONS.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, THAT YOU'RE NOW TRYING TO GET $1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY TO INSTALL WATER METERS, BUT YET YOU CAN WRITE OFF $10 MILLION OF FUNDING SOURCE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COMING INTO THE CITY.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

OH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT THE METERS ARE PAID FOR BY THE CUSTOMER.

SO THIS IS AN EXPENSE THAT WE BEAR TO BUY THE METERS, BUT WE DO ULTIMATELY GET REIMBURSED WHEN THE CUSTOMER, RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, COMES IN TO DEVELOP A SITE. THANK YOU.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I HI PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MR. BATON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.

OUTSOURCING LARGE SCALE APPLICATIONS.

I WOULD PREFER THAT THE PERSON DOING THE REVIEW HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITY, NOT GIVING $200,000 TO AN OUTSIDE IDENTITY.

I JUST LIKE I LIKE MY STAFF.

I APPRECIATE MY STAFF.

THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR THE CITY.

YOU HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME IN, THEY'RE MORE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING THEIR MONEY THAN THEY ARE GETTING THE VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITY.

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ITEM NUMBER TWO 500 ACTIVE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOT PAID THEIR FIRE PREVENTION INSPECTIONS.

THAT'S A NOTICEABLE AMOUNT OF BUSINESS IN THE CITY THAT HAVEN'T PAID THEIR BILLS.

DON'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CITY LICENSE IN ORDER TO OPERATE? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.

AND QUESTION NUMBER TWO.

WHAT IS THAT UNCOLLECTED AMOUNT? HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THAT THE CITY HAS NOT GOTTEN YET? WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY TO SEND OUT A LETTER TO THEM TO SAY THEY'RE DELINQUENT.

LET'S MAKE THEM BE RESPONSIBLE.

UH, MASTER CHIEF, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT I BROUGHT UP THAT SAME CONCERN.

THANK YOU.

I'D RATHER HAVE THEM HERE, BUT I'LL LET MISS SHERMAN, UH, BRIEF YOU ON THE.

YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN, SIR? MADAM SHERMAN. UH, YES, SIR.

THE, UM, THE OUTSOURCING COMMENT, FIRST OF ALL.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY OUR PREFERENCE IS ALWAYS HAVE STAFF IN-HOUSE.

UH, THE REASON FOR THIS IS, UH, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL, THAT WE ARE DOWN IN TERMS OF NUMBER OF PLANNERS THAT WE HAVE IN EMPLOYMENT CURRENTLY.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE SEEKING TO FILL VACANT STAFF POSITIONS CURRENTLY.

AND SO WE NEED SOMETHING IN THE AS A STOPGAP MEASURE TO HELP US.

SO OUR NUMBER ONE GOAL IS STILL TO PURSUE FILLING THE VACANCIES WITH QUALIFIED PERSONNEL.

HOWEVER WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING TO KEEP UP WITH THE WORKLOAD THAT'S COMING INTO THE CITY.

SO THIS IS OUR OUR SHORT TERME MEASURE, WE HOPE.

UM, GOING BACK TO THE THE 500 NOTICES, UH, WITH THE FIRE PREVENTION INSPECTION PROCESS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE DEPARTMENT UNDER NEW LEADERSHIP IS REVIEWING THE STATUS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DISCOVERED WAS THAT, UM, INSPECTIONS THAT HAD BEEN DONE AND WERE INVOICED, THERE WAS NO FOLLOW UP PROCESS IN PLACE WITH PRIOR STAFF TO PURSUE THE PAYMENTS THAT WERE NOT MADE.

SO ESSENTIALLY IN IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CODE DIVISION, THEY ARE GOING AFTER THOSE THAT DID NOT PAY THERE.

SO THAT IS WHY THERE'S THIS SORT OF CATCH UP PROCESS UNDERWAY.

NOW, UM, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WILL SEE REOCCURRING IN FUTURE YEARS BECAUSE THEY WILL KEEP KEEP ON IT DIFFERENTLY.

AND IF THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION, I APOLOGIZE, I MISSED IT.

HOW MUCH? OH, THE DOLLAR VALUE OF THE FEES.

I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THAT TONIGHT.

UH, DO YOU HAVE THAT, NATE? NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT TONIGHT.

WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU, SIR.

WELL, THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR? MAYOR.

GO AHEAD. SORRY. BRIEFLY.

I, UM, I WAS GOING TO WAIT TILL LATER, BUT I DO WANT TO NOTE I GAVE WE GAVE STAFF DIRECTION INTO LOOKING INTO I AND HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT IT IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND I'M SEEING THIS AS ONE OPPORTUNITY.

OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY UM, I SENT IT TO MISS SHERMAN THIS MORNING OR YESTERDAY THAT ALTAMONTE SPRINGS IS THE FIRST CITY SO FAR TO USE I AND DEVELOPMENT UM, PROJECTS AND SUCH.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO DO IT WITHIN MINUTES AND SAVE STAFF TIME SO THEY CAN FOCUS ON SOME OTHER THINGS.

SO JUST JUST A COMMENT I SUPPORT THIS, BUT JUST A COMMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN BE UP THERE TO UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS.

SO THAT'S ALL.

YEAH. AND I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, I DID FORWARD SOME OF THE I INFORMATION TO, UH, MADAM SHERMAN AND AND ACTUALLY WE LOST ONE OF OUR OWN TO THE EYE COMPANY, SO, UM, I'M I'M RIGHT ALONG WITH YOU, SIR.

I THINK SHE'S GOT THAT.

WE DO HAVE A COMING, UH, A DEMO ACTUALLY SCHEDULED COMING UP WITH THAT FIRM.

UH, SO STAFF AND I WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THESE TWO CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE AVAILABLE TO PIGGYBACK TO QUICKLY JUMP INTO AND USE THOSE RESOURCES BECAUSE OTHER EXCUSE ME, OTHER CITIES HAVE ALREADY VETTED AND DONE A PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

SO THAT ENABLES US TO GO QUICKLY, RIGHT, FOR RIGHT NOW.

BUT WE ARE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING AT THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST TAG TEAM ON THAT.

UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BECAUSE AS WE HAVE WORKED HARD TO INCREASE OUR COMMERCIAL BASE, IT IS CRITICAL FOR THIS DEPARTMENT TO BE SUPPORTED.

NIGHT. I WAS REALLY ADAMANT, LIKE, UH, MASTER CHIEF SAID, AND I LET, UH, SUZANNE KNOW THAT IT'S BETTER TO HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S INVESTED IN OUR CITY.

THAT'S A PARTNER THAT HAS, UH, THAT WEIGHS IN AND IS PART OF THE TEAM.

RIGHT. UH, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR COMMERCIAL BASE AS WELL.

SO I HAVE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY FOUR ZERO.

AYE, AYE.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

MR. BATTEN.

CHANGE ORDER NUMBER FOUR ON MADDEN ROAD.

YOU REMOVE THE TRAFFIC CALMING DEVICE THAT WAS ON GAYNOR RIGHT.

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GAYNOR ROAD, THAT IS A LOCAL ROAD, BUT IT HAS THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC OF THAT OF A COLLECTOR ROAD ON IT.

THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING UNTIL YOU SAY, WELL, NOW WE'RE ROUTED OUR LOCAL ROAD AS INTO THE TRAFFIC OF A COLLECTOR ROAD.

WHY I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE OF WHAT'S IN THE CHANGE ORDER ON MADDEN, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. SO MADDEN ROAD HAS JUST BEEN PAVED AND IT NOW HAS AND IT HAS STRIPING.

THERE'S ONLY 20 RESIDENTS ON MADDEN ROAD YET ON GAYNOR ROAD THAT IS NOW TURNED TO A MINOR ROAD INTO A COLLECTOR ROAD HAS NO STRIPING ON IT. SO MY QUESTION IS WHERE IS YOUR PRIORITY FOR THE REAL SAFETY? YOU STRIPE THE ROADS OUT IN THE COMPOUND, BUT ON THE ROADS THAT HAVE TURNED, MINOR ROADS THAT HAVE TURNED INTO MAJOR COLLECTORS, YOU DON'T HAVE THE STRIPING.

IF YOU GO DOWN GAYNOR ROAD, YOU'LL SEE WHERE ONCOMING TRAFFIC HAS TO DRIVE OFF THE ROAD, BECAUSE IT'S TOO NARROW FOR A PASSING OF TWO VEHICLES IN SOME LOCATIONS, AND IT'S JUST AS WINDY IN SOME LOCATIONS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE RIGHT OF WAY WHEN YOU PAVED THE ROAD THAT YOU MADE IT LOOK LIKE A SERPENTINE TO PAVE THE ROAD, WHICH PEOPLE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF.

BUT THE ROAD ITSELF DOES NOT MEET THE CRITERIA FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON IT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE HEAD ON TRAFFIC THAT HAS TO GO OFF THE ROAD TO AVOID HEAD ON COLLISIONS WITH NO STRIPING ON THE ROAD.

SO I'M JUST BRINGING IT TO YOUR LIGHT, SINCE YOU ARE THE ONES THAT TOOK AWAY THE CALMING MECHANISM AND NOW WE HAVE A SAFETY HAZARD BEFORE US.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO LOOK INTO THIS ONE WITH STAFF.

I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT THOUGH, AND I'LL GET BACK TO MR. BATTEN WITH THE TEAM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I MAY.

GO AHEAD. KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON ON MR. BATTEN HERE.

UM. UH, I MEAN, I'VE, I'VE USED GANAR UM BEFORE, UM.

UM, BUT BUT I, I DO AGREE WITH YOU.

UM, ESPECIALLY SO TWO, TWO TWO ITEM WITH THIS ONE.

THE STRIPING. IT'S AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, UH, THE ONLY UM, UH, ROAD MADDEN.

YOU MENTIONED MADDEN AS WELL.

UM, BUT BUT MORE SO LIGHTING, STREET LIGHTING.

IT'S CERTAINLY AN ISSUE I CAN'T TELL YOU.

COUNTLESS TIME HAD TO LITERALLY STOPPED YOU KNOW, OR PULL TO THE SIDE JUST TO ALLOW, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, COME THROUGH TRAFFIC.

UM, SO CERTAINLY THIS IS A ROAD THAT AND I BROUGHT TO STAFF BEFORE THE, THE, UM, THE OVERGROWN VEGETATION ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET.

I KNOW THE CITY DIDN'T ON THAT PIECE OF THAT SECTION OF THE, OF THE ROAD IN TERMS OF, UH, CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

UM, THAT'S BEEN FIXED AND CERTAINLY THAT'S AN AREA THAT'S NEEDED THAT DO NEED SOME ATTENTION.

UM, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF, IT'LL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU. YEAH, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT DEPUTY MAYOR ON THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE, UH, IF IF YOU LOOK AT THE SAFETY MECHANISM OF THAT CORRIDOR, WHATEVER WE COULD DO WITH GETTING IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, SAVING A LIFE, UH, IT IS LIKE A SERPENTINE, AS HE SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, MAN, BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CUT THROUGH AND PEOPLE USE IT.

AND THE MORE THAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF IT, UH, THEY COULD IT COULD BE REALLY DANGEROUS AT THIS POINT.

AND AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW, WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE THAT THAT EFFORT TO, TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THIS BECOMES A HUGE ISSUE, KIND OF NIP IT IN THE BUD.

SO IF WE CAN GET OUR TEAM TO START LOOKING DOWN RANGE AND, AND HOW WE COULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT, UM, HEAD ON COLLISIONS, UH, COST LIVES.

AND SO I REALLY BELIEVE IF WE CAN JUST PUT AN EXTRA EFFORT INTO THIS, I'M NOT SURE YOU GUYS ARE THE ENGINEERS AND THE GENIUSES. RIGHT.

BUT WE REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE LOOKED AT SOMEHOW.

OKAY, SO, UH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU GO WITH THAT, ALL RIGHT, SIR, SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE, AYE AYE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12, MISTER BARTON.

MAYOR. UH.

YES, MA'AM. YES.

BEFORE I READ, UM, 12, WHICH WAS PULLED, UH, ITEM 13, YOU ALL APPROVED, BUT I DID NOT READ THE CAPTION.

IF I MAY READ THE CAPTION FOR ITEM 13 PRIOR TO READING UM, THE CAPTION FOR UM, ITEM 12, AND THEN WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

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CARRY ON MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ORDINANCE 2020 3-104 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 96 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, SUBCHAPTER BUILDING CODE BY UPDATING REFERENCES TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE ORDINANCE 2023.

DASH 103 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS, SUBCHAPTER PALM BAY INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD, BY MODIFYING THE SUNSET DATE AND REINSTATING THE BOARD.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MA'AM. UH.

MR. MASTER CHIEF.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD IS ONE OF THE BOARDS I ENJOY ATTENDING, BECAUSE IT GIVES ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN A LOT OF INSIGHT TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITHIN THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS BY ATTENDING THESE OTHER MEETINGS AND THE INFORMATION THAT'S PUT OUT THERE, I FIND TO A GREAT BENEFIT.

SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING EXTENDING THAT BOARD, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A GREAT LOSS TO THE CITY IF IT SUNSETTED.

AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT RESOURCE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I ENJOYED THAT ATTENDING THAT BOARD GREATLY.

THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE. COUNCILMAN FOSTER PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER 14.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR..

I PRESENTED A REPORT TO YOU THAT POINTED OUT THAT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE TURKEY CREEK AREA.

AS ONE OF THE POLLUTERS, I PRESENTED THAT TO YOU.

WHEN YOU'RE MANDATING THE MANDATORY HOOKUP TO CITY SEPTIC AND, UH, SEWER FOR CONVERTING SEPTIC TO SEWER, I BROUGHT OUT THE POINT THAT IT WAS THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT WAS ONE OF THE HIGH POLLUTERS, RIGHT? YOU MANDATED MANDATORY HOOKUP TO SEWER AND WATER, YET YOU HAVE NOT MANDATED ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR PLANTS, YOUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE WATER SO IT CAN BE DISCHARGED BACK INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

WHY? THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO TREAT THE H2O, THE WATER WE HAVE TO TO SUSTAIN LIFE.

THE THE ABILITY TO TREAT IT IS THERE NOW.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT. WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, YOU'RE GOING TO MANDATE THE RESIDENTS HOOK UP TO THEIR SEWER TO TREAT THE WATER.

BUT ANYTHING THAT'S LEFT OVER FROM THAT AFFLUENT, WHAT HAPPENS TO IT? IT GETS PUMPED DOWN A DEEP WELL BELOW THE WATER TABLE.

SO WE'VE LOST THAT H2O, THAT NATURAL RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE, RIGHT? SO THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU'RE MANDATING ON SOME, YOU NEED TO MANDATE ON YOURSELF TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE TO MAKE THE WATER THAT WE'RE THAT YOU'RE MAKING THE PEOPLE HOOK UP TO FOR THEIR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

SUSTAINABLE, WHERE IT CAN GO BACK INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND NOT POLLUTE IT, SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO GO DOWN A DEEP WELL THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR ANNUALLY.

AND IT'S GONE FOREVER ONCE IT GOES DOWN THAT DEEP.

WELL, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY WHERE WE COULD MAKE PEOPLE BE AWARE OF THE TOTAL SITUATION, INSTEAD OF JUST THE ONE THING EVERYBODY SAYS, OH, SEPTIC TANKS ARE BAD.

THAT'S OUR MAIN PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT.

I HAVE PRESENTED YOU WITH SOME OF THE REPORTS.

I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF YOU'D LOOK AT THEM AND LISTEN AND LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE SUMMARIES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

EVERYBODY THINKS SEPTIC IS BAD, EVEN WHEN YOU LOSE ELECTRICITY.

SEPTIC SYSTEMS STILL WORK YOUR WATER TREATMENT PLANTS WHEN YOU USE LOSE ELECTRICITY, IT ALL BACKS UP INTO THEIR HOMES BECAUSE YOUR LIFT STATIONS DON'T WORK.

AND THEN YOU HAVE MASSIVE SEWAGE TREATMENT, SEWAGE PROBLEMS GOING INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

SO YOU HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, BUT YOU MADE YOURSELVES FEEL GOOD BY NOT ADDRESSING THE REAL PROBLEM.

THAT BEING SAID, I'M SORRY I GOT A LITTLE BIT CARRIED AWAY THERE, BUT I'M NOT A BIG SUPPORTER IN MANDATING ON THINGS THAT CAN FAIL WITH A SWITCH, WITH A FLIP OF A SWITCH, OR

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ONE HACKER GETTING ON YOUR COMPUTER SYSTEM AND SHUTTING THEM DOWN.

MY SYSTEMS, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, WILL CONTINUE TO WORK EVEN IF THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

DO YOU WANT TO? WELL, I WILL SAY FOR THE RECORD, AND CERTAINLY I CAN HAVE OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR COME UP THAT I WOULD DISAGREE WITH A COMMENT THAT INDICATES WHERE THE A MASSIVE POLLUTER INTO THE LAGOON.

UH, CERTAINLY. I CAN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DETAILS TO BACK THAT UP.

UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. BATTEN IS TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF DIFFERENT TREATMENT PROCESSES.

WE'VE CERTAINLY DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE.

UM, BUT WE ARE BEING IMMENSELY PROACTIVE CURRENTLY AND INVESTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN UPGRADING THE TREATMENT PROCESSES AND PLANTS, UH, AT NORTH REGIONAL.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR PERMITS THAT ALLOW US TO DO THINGS IN THE WAY THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THEM.

AND SO, UM, I'M VERY PROUD OF WHAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS DOING TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM DOES NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR THE LAGOON AND SURROUNDING AREAS.

UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, WE CAN.

BUT THAT WOULD BE MY BRIEF COMMENT ON THAT.

THANK YOU. I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW.

WE ARE NOW GOING TO CONSIDERATION OR NEW BUSINESS AS YOU WERE OR NO APPOINTMENTS.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]

APPOINTMENTS? YES. INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS? YES. UNFINISHED? NO. AND, MAYOR, IF I COULD, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THAT AFTER FURTHER REVIEW, IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED THAT MR. BACCUS DID NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD, AS HE DOES NOT RESIDE OR WORK WITHIN THE BAYFRONT DISTRICT.

THEREFORE, THERE IS ONLY ONE APPLICATION TO CONSIDER FOR THIS APPOINTMENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT, UH, MR. KEN PARKS TO THE AT-LARGE POSITION ON THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT.

HE WAS THE ONLY CANDIDATE THAT QUALIFIED.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[NEW BUSINESS]

MR.. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM CAREERSOURCE BREVARD.

I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE FROM.

OH, I'M SORRY, I STAND CORRECTED.

UH, A REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE, SO I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME THEM TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS ABOUT THEIR REQUEST.

GOOD EVENING. UM.

DOING A SPONSORSHIP REQUEST IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY CO-SPONSOR VETERANS JOB FAIR.

I HAVE BEEN DOING IT NOW FOR FOUR YEARS AT THE TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER.

WE BASICALLY AVERAGE ABOUT 400 JOB SEEKERS THROUGH EVENT.

OUR LOWEST WAS DURING, UH, THE PANDEMIC, WHICH WAS 295 AND OUR HIGHEST WAS 475.

UH, LAST YEAR, YOU GUYS, UH, THE CITY OF PALM BAY CO-SPONSORED WITH US, SUPPORTED US.

CLOSER TO THE MIC, SIR.

UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING.

LIKE I SAID, THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH YEAR IF APPROVED WITH, UH, WITH, UH, RANDY DETWILER DOWN AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.

AND SO WE'VE WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.

WE DID IT FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS.

AND THEN LAST YEAR WE ASKED FOR A CO SPONSORSHIP AND PALM BAY CITY PALM BAY APPROVED IT.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT SUPPORT AGAIN.

HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE TO THE VETERAN COMMUNITY TO ANNOUNCE IT TO I AM A LOCAL VETERAN, UH, REPRESENTATIVE.

SO I WORK WITH EMPLOYERS AND WITH VETERANS.

I ADVOCATE FOR THE HIRING OF VETERANS I COORDINATE WITH VIA RADIO.

WE DO OUR OWN CAREER SOURCE WEBSITE, WE DO E-BLASTS, AND WE HAVE THREE OFFICES THE ONE HERE IN PALM BAY, THE ONE IN ROCKLEDGE, AND THE ONE IN TITUSVILLE.

AND WE DO OUTREACH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY WITH THE OTHER VETERAN COMMUNITIES.

WE PASS OUT ALL THE INFORMATION, UH, TO GET THE SUPPORT, TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE THAT THE VETERAN JOB FAIR IS GOING ON.

BUT IT'S NOT ONLY, UH, VETERANS JOB FAIRS ALSO OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

UNDERSTOOD. UM, MY MY CURIOSITY WAS PIQUED BASED ON THE VETERAN POPULATION.

RIGHT. HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT VETERAN POPULATION? WHERE ARE YOU DIRECTING THAT THAT MARKETING STRATEGY? WELL, WE HAVE VETERANS WHO WE HAVE, UH, DISABLED VETERAN OUTREACH PROGRAM REPRESENTATIVES AT EACH AT EACH ONE, LIKE THE DAB ORGANIZATION KNOW THIS?

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YEAH. GOVERNMENT AGENCY WITH, UH, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND WE'RE THE US, THE US DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.

OKAY. WE WERE THE DOE, NOW WE'RE DOC.

SO. OKAY. UM, BUT WE'RE AT EACH ONE OF THE OFFICES.

WE HAVE VETERANS THAT WE WORK WITH THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED OR UNDEREMPLOYED.

WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE BEING CASE MANAGED, UH, THROUGH THE DEVOP.

ONCE THEY'RE JOB READY, THEN THEY'RE PROVIDED THEIR RESUMES AND THE INDIVIDUAL, THE VETERAN TO ME.

AND THEN I GO ADVOCATE, UH, TO EMPLOYERS WITHIN BREVARD COUNTY.

DID YOU SAY VOC REHAB OR WHAT DID YOU SAY? V WHAT WAS IT? NO, NO, NO, WE HAVE WE HAVE THE THE DISABLED VETERAN OUTREACH PROGRAM VETERANS.

EXCUSE ME. THEY COLLABORATE TO GET THAT THAT VETERAN JOB READY.

ONCE HE IS JOB READY, THEN THEY PASS THEM ON TO ME.

I SEE I GOT IT AND THEN I ADVOCATE THROUGH THROUGH TO THE EMPLOYERS UH WITHIN BREVARD COUNTY FOR THE FOR THE HIRING OF THOSE VETERANS.

YEAH. I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW YOU MARKET IT TO VETERANS, LIKE PERHAPS TRANSITIONAL MILITARY PERSONNEL.

ARE YOU MARKETING IT TO THEM LIKE THERE'S A TRANSITIONAL, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ASSISTANCE? WE DO THAT.

WELL, AGAIN, THROUGH THE ENTIRE COUNTY, THROUGH OUR THROUGH ALL THE AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, THE PRESENTATION AT THE TAP AT THE PATRICK AIR FORCE BASE.

OKAY. AND WE ALSO HAVE FOR THE MAGIC WORD FOR ME.

OKAY. THAT'S IT.

THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? I'M ALL RIGHT.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SHERMAN.

UH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS ANOTHER CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST, THIS ONE FROM THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST.

AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE COMING UP TO PRESENT AS WELL.

YEAH, SURE. LET ME GET THEM OUT.

THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

UM, MY NAME IS ANKUR SHAH.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 30 PLUS YEARS NOW.

UM, I AM HERE TODAY TO REQUEST A CONSIDERATION FOR CO-SPONSORSHIP FOR THE KITE FLYING EVENT.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT'S OUR SECOND ANNUAL EVENT.

LAST YEAR WAS OUR FIRST EVENT, AND WE HAD AN OVERWHELMING, UH, RESPONSE.

IT'S AN EVENT THAT'S FREE TO ALL.

UM, THERE IS THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THAT'S GOING TO GO ON.

KITE FLYING IS, UH, YOU KNOW, CULTURALLY IT HAS A SIGNIFICANCE, UH, OF, UH, IT'S A SEASON OF HARVESTING.

SO THAT'S HOW WE CELEBRATE BACK HOME.

AND I WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK, UH, HERE IN PALM BAY.

SO I WOULD LIKE, UH, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE CONSIDERATE.

UM, THIS IS GOING TO SUPPORT A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES AS WELL, AND IT'S GOING TO BE AN ACTIVITY THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO EVERY YEAR ROUND.

SO IN ADDITION TO IN-KIND SERVICES, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME FINANCIAL SUPPORT.

I HAVE GIVEN SOME BREAKDOWN OF AN ESTIMATED EXPENSE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT WE HAD LAST YEAR, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO MAKE IT A BIG EVENT AND HOPING FOR SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

NO. UM, MY MY CONCERN IS THAT.

ARE THESE THIS FINANCIAL FUNDS, MADAM SHERMAN.

OH, THIS WAS THIS IS IN KIND SERVICES? NO, SIR. WE DON'T WE DON'T PROVIDE FUNDING DIRECTLY TO ANY OF THE CO-SPONSORSHIP APPLICANTS.

SO THESE ARE VALUES OF LIKE YOU SEE IN THE AGENDA MEMO, THE VALUES THAT ARE IN THERE OR THE VALUES THAT WE'VE CALCULATED FOR STAFF.

TIME FOR RESOURCING BY WHAT HE WAS JUST.

YES, SIR. WHAT HE JUST GAVE ME SAYS, UH, UM, FUNDS FROM THE CITY, BUT IT'S IN-KIND SERVICES.

NO, NO, THAT NO, WHAT I, WHAT I MEANT BY THAT IS THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE REQUESTING FROM THE CITY AND HOW THAT MONEY WILL BE ALLOCATED IF IT WAS GRANTED.

OH, I SEE, SO YOU ACTUALLY ARE.

I'M SORRY. YOU ACTUALLY ARE REQUESTING FUNDING.

YES. SO OUR CO SPONSORSHIP POLICY DOES NOT, UM, PERMIT US TO GIVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS DIRECTLY TO ANY ORGANIZATION.

OKAY. WHAT WE DO IS WE, WE SPONSOR CO SPONSOR YOU BY IN-KIND AS THE MAYOR SAID.

SO I SEE YEAH OKAY.

BUT CO-SPONSORSHIP IS NOT AN ISSUE.

IT'S JUST THE FUNDING PART IS THE ISSUE IS THAT IS THAT AM I CORRECT? CORRECT CORRECT CORRECT.

UM, WE LIKE WHEN I, WHEN YOU HANDED ME THIS, MY EYES WENT DIRECTLY INTO.

YEAH. SEEKING FUNDS FROM THE CITY AND NOT.

WE DON'T DO THAT.

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OKAY. NO, I WASN'T SURE, YOU KNOW.

SO UH, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE LOOKING FOR THIS EVENT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EXCITED.

WE WE LIKE YOU GUYS TO BE THERE AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, I HAVE A WONDERFUL VIDEO WITH, UH, KENNY, YOUR SON FLYING A KITE, UH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT THAT THAT WAS REALLY A WONDERFUL.

YOU KNOW, EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, AT LEAST.

SO WE LIKE YOU GUYS TO BE THERE.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

AND, UH, HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SO TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS IN-KIND SERVICES, THIS CO-PARTNERSHIP.

I JUST WANTED TO TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED SECOND GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON ANY. DEPUTY MAYOR.

NO, I JUST THANK YOU.

WAS I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THIS EVENT LAST YEAR.

I THINK IT WAS GREAT.

WELL, WAS IT THIS YEAR? THIS YEAR. RIGHT. JANUARY.

THIS YEAR. JANUARY. YEAH.

IT WAS LAST YEAR. RIGHT.

YEAH. UH, BUT CERTAINLY IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR, FOR FIRST TIME.

I MEAN, UH, SUPER IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION, THE ACTIVITIES, UH, THE INDIAN COMMUNITY, IT JUST BLOW MY MIND AS I HAD A CHANCE TO TO MEET SOME, SOME, YOU KNOW, FANTASTIC FOLKS AND FROM OUT OF TOWN AS WELL.

SO IT WAS JUST FOR FIRST IT WAS GOOD.

AND I FIGURED THIS CAN ONLY, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, GROW FROM THERE.

AND AND CERTAINLY WE ARE, YOU KNOW, WE PALM BAY PROUD AS FAR AS OUR DIVERSITY THROUGHOUT THE, THE COUNTY.

UM, CERTAINLY, UH, WE WELCOME THIS EVENT, AND I'M GLAD TO BE, UH, YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO BRING IT TO PALM BAY.

AND I'LL CERTAINLY BE MAKING SURE THAT I'M THERE AS WELL.

YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, IT WAS A GREAT DAY TO FLY A KITE.

I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW.

I. YOU KNOW, OUT OF ALL THE DAYS IN FLORIDA, THE WIND WAS GOING.

IT WAS A PERFECT DAY.

I DID GET TO FLY A KITE.

YES. YOUR MAYOR WAS FLYING A KITE, TOO, BUT.

AND IT WAS EXCITING BECAUSE IT WENT AND FOUND A KITE.

YEAH, I WENT AND I WENT AND FLEW A KITE, YOU KNOW.

BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS THE DAY BEFORE, THERE WAS NOT ONE BREEZE OUT THERE.

AND SO I WAS TRACKING THAT.

BUT THAT DAY IT WAS LIKE IT WAS REALLY BREEZY.

SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME WEATHER AGAIN.

UH, BUT THAT I HAVE A I WANTED TO SAY, UH, HOW FORTUNATE WE WERE THAT IT WAS SO BREEZY THAT DAY.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE, AYE.

AND WE ARE NOW ON REPORTS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

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I JUST WANT PEOPLE PALM BAY TO REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR AND, UH, SAY A PRAYER FOR THE FAMILIES.

THERE WAS SOMEONE DOING THAT ATTACK.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAN.

THANK YOU SIR.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM.

UM, MISS SHERMAN, WAS IT EMAILED TO? DOES HE. OKAY, PERFECT.

UM, SO THIS THIS YEAR, UM, THE GOVERNOR ANNOUNCED STATE OFFICE CLOSURES IN CELEBRATION OF THE HOLIDAYS.

HE ANNOUNCED THE 20TH NOVEMBER 22ND, DECEMBER 26TH, DECEMBER 29TH AND JANUARY 2ND.

UM, I'M NOT LOOKING TO OVEREXTEND, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE IS A COST TO IT WHICH THE CITY MANAGER WILL BE ABLE TO TO PROVIDE THAT TO COUNCIL.

BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER, UM, GIVING THE EMPLOYEES DECEMBER 26TH OFF.

UM, FOR THIS YEAR. MAYOR.

UM, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT IT UP AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE.

YEAH. SO THAT WAY WE HAVE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING FOR IT, BUT SO WE CAN AT LEAST GIVE, UH, THE CITY MANAGER MANAGEMENT, UM, DIRECTION ON THAT.

AND, UH, MISS SHERMAN, IF YOU COULD DISCLOSE THE COST FOR, UM, HAVING DECEMBER 26TH OFF, PLEASE.

YES, SIR. SO FOR THE PAST, UM, FEW, UM, HOLIDAYS THAT WE'VE GIVEN THE EMPLOYEES PRESIDENTS DAY, MEMORIAL DAY, INDEPENDENCE DAY, WHERE THE NUMBERS WE PULLED, THE AVERAGE COST IS IS BASICALLY IN THE, THE MID 90S.

SO FIGURE 90,000 TO $100,000 FOR A SINGLE DAY BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE HOLIDAY PAY AND OVERTIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S THE BALLPARK COST FOR A SINGLE ADDITIONAL DAY, UH, HOLIDAY.

YOU KNOW, I HAD ASKED ABOUT, UH, AS YOU KNOW, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REWARDING OUR FOLKS WITH A HOLIDAY EXTRA DAY.

AND IT WASN'T IT WASN'T IT WASN'T WARRANTED.

RIGHT. UM, BUT IT WILL BE NEXT YEAR, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE GO ON A CYCLE, I THINK.

UH, AND SO I WAS TRACKING THAT, BUT I'M, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR.

YEAH, THAT THAT'S, UH, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT CHRISTMAS GIFT, IF YOU WILL.

UM, SO I WOULD I WOULD SUPPORT THAT OUT AS WELL.

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COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YEAH. I SUPPORT THE DECEMBER 26TH AS A HOLIDAY FOR THE CITY WORKERS OF PALM BAY.

UM, I THINK THAT'S THEY THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB THIS YEAR.

AND YOU COULD TELL BY THE CHRISTMAS PARADE, THE TREE LIGHTING.

UM, THEY DESERVE A DAY OFF, UH, AFTER CHRISTMAS, SO I SUPPORT THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AND THAT THAT CONCLUDES THAT CONCLUDES HAPPY HANUKKAH.

UM. THAT'S IT. I'LL.

I'LL SAVE THE REST FOR WHEN WE GET CLOSER TO CHRISTMAS.

SO THAT'S IT, DEPUTY MAYOR.

SAME. SAME THING, SAME HERE.

UH, COUNCILMAN JOHN, I MEAN, FOSTER DID MENTION THE, UH, THE HOLIDAY PARADE.

WELL, WHAT A FANTASTIC, UM, EVENT.

UM, COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING NEGATIVE.

UM, ABOUT THIS EVENT, IT'S ALWAYS ALL POSITIVE.

UM, KUDOS TO STAFF.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE.

I COULDN'T THINK OF A DEPARTMENT THAT WASN'T FULLY ENGAGED, ESPECIALLY FACILITY.

UH, RECREATION.

POLICE, FIRE.

UM, EXCELLENT.

EXCELLENT JOB. AND AND REALLY, TRULY WAS TALK OF TOWN PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY.

UM, GREAT JOB STAFF.

WELL. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS.

THANK YOU FOR YIELDING YOUR TIME, BECAUSE I THINK I'LL BE HERE A WHILE.

THE VERY FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS TODAY IS PEARL HARBOR DAY.

AND I SHARED WITH YOU AT OUR BAYFRONT, UH, REDEVELOPMENT, UH, MEETING.

UM. DECEMBER 7TH.

SO MANY PEOPLE WERE ATTACKED.

BUT I WANT US TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW THIS NATION WAS AT THAT TIME.

80% OF OUR POPULATION DID NOT WANT TO ENTER INTO WORLD WAR TWO.

80%. AND YET, WHEN WE GOT ATTACKED, EACH AND EVERY AMERICAN WAS AT WAR.

WE HAD WOMEN IN FACTORIES.

WE HAD EVERYONE COMING TOGETHER.

THIS NATION RESPONDED AS THE GREAT NATION THAT IT IS.

SEPTEMBER 11TH.

THIS NATION RESPONDED WITH A GREAT NATION THAT IT IS.

WE WERE ATTACKED AND WE WENT FORTH AND WE CONQUERED THE ENEMY.

AND YET HERE WE ARE TODAY.

WE'RE BEING ATTACKED.

AND WE'RE BEING ENTICED.

BY A GLOBAL WAR, BY THIS GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR.

I LONG FOR THE DAYS THAT THIS NATION STAY UNITED AND BE UNITED WITHOUT A CATASTROPHE.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAD INTO THAT.

IT IS PEARL HARBOR DAY.

THIS DAY WE SHOULD ALWAYS REMEMBER WHAT'S AT STAKE.

THE BLOOD THAT WAS SHED DURING PEARL HARBOR AND ALL THE WARRIORS AFTER THAT.

THAT'S WHAT WE HONOR.

BUT WE MUST REMEMBER SO THAT WE DON'T REPEAT.

WE MUST HONOR THE HISTORY OF THOSE THAT CAME BEFORE US.

WHICH LEADS ME INTO I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ON COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO GO TO THE COMBAT ANTI-SEMITISM CONFERENCE THAT WAS HELD IN FORT LAUDERDALE.

I'M GOING TO TRY AND EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT I WITNESSED.

THERE WERE SEVERAL PANELS.

IT WAS HEART WRENCHING TO SEE.

SURVIVORS OF THE HORROR OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HOSTAGE.

THERE WERE FAMILY MEMBERS THERE, AND THE WAY THEY DESCRIBED THE LOVE OF THE KIDNAPING AND THE VIDEOS OF THE HORRIFIC INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED ON OCTOBER 7TH WAS DEVASTATING.

I HEARD DIRECTLY FROM A SURVIVOR.

THAT WAS BEING CHASED.

AND AS THEY RAN, THEY HID IN A DITCH.

AND THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WITHIN HER SAID, WE MUST LEAVE THIS DITCH.

SO SHE GOT UP WITH THE PERSON THAT SHE WAS WITH AND THEY CONTINUED TO RUN AWAY.

THOSE THAT REMAINED IN THE DITCH WITCH THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A SAFE HAVEN WERE KILLED.

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AS THEY WERE RUNNING, THERE WAS A TRUCK AND I DON'T DO IT JUSTICE.

THE WAY SHE DESCRIBED THE HORROR, THE HORRORS THAT SHE FACED.

AND THIS TRUCK CAME RIGHT AT THEM AND SHE THOUGHT IT WAS OVER.

THEY BOTH KNELT DOWN AND PRAYED, AND YET IT WAS SOMEONE THAT CAME, SAVED THEM, HOPPED THEM ON THE VEHICLE AND DROVE THEM AWAY. SHE WAS THERE AT THIS, UH, THIS CONFERENCE.

I SAY ALL OF THIS TO TO SHARE WHAT THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FACING TODAY.

AND I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, BECAUSE WHEN WE PASS THIS RESOLUTION, IT'S NOT ONLY A RESOLUTION THAT INDICATES THAT WE ARE AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM, BUT IT ACTUALLY DESCRIBES WHAT ANTI-SEMITISM COULD BE DEFINED.

AND I'M GOING TO LIST THOSE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR CONTEMPORARY EXAMPLES OF ANTI-SEMITISM IN PUBLIC LIFE.

THE MEDIA, SCHOOLS, THE WORKPLACE AND IN RELIGIOUS SPHERE.

COULD, TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE OVERALL CONTEXT, INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO CALLING FOR, JUSTIFY THE KILLING OR HARMING OF JEWS IN THE NAME OF A RADICAL IDEOLOGY OR AN EXTREMIST VIEW OF RELIGION MAKING, DEHUMANIZING DEMAND, UH, DEMONIZING AND STEREOTYPING ALLEGATIONS ABOUT JEWS AS SUCH OF THE POWER JEWS AS COLLECTIVE, SUCH AS ESPECIALLY BUT NOT EXCLUSIVE.

THE MYTH ABOUT WORLD JEWISH CONSPIRACY OR OF JEWS CONTROLLING THE MEDIA, THE ECONOMY, THE GOVERNMENT AND OTHER SOCIOLOGICAL SOCIAL INSTITUTIONS.

IT GOES ON.

THERE'S 11 DIFFERENT TYPES, BUT WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT? AT THIS CONFERENCE WAS THE FACT THAT THEY WANTED THIS IHRA WORKING DEFINITION OF ANTI-SEMITISM, AND IHRA IS THE INTERNATIONAL HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE ALLIANCE.

SOME PEOPLE DENY THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A HOLOCAUST.

45 COUNTRIES, 478 MUNICIPALITIES AND REGIONAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED THIS RESOLUTION.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME IN THIS VENTURE, AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YOU'VE BEEN APPOINTED TO OUR LEAGUE OF CITIES HERE LOCALLY.

WE ARE THE FIRST CITY TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION IN THIS COUNTY.

I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ARE TO BE PROUD OF THAT.

I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO HAVE OTHER CITIES JOIN US.

IN THIS RESOLUTION, AND THAT WAY WE COULD REPORT BACK TO THIS COMBATING ANTI-SEMITISM MOVEMENT TO THE LEADERS AND SAY, NOT ONLY DID THE CITY OF PALM BAY ADOPT THIS, WHICH I'M GOING TO DO AS SOON AS I CAN, BUT WE ALSO LED THE MARCH TO HAVE THE COUNTY ADOPT IT, TO HAVE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ADOPT IT.

IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UH, AND SO I'LL END WITH THAT.

I ALSO WANTED TO COMMEND.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER JOINED US.

AT OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, MY HEART REJOICED TO SEE HIM WITH US.

I WAS REALLY PLEASED THAT HE MADE IT A POINT TO MAKE IT THERE.

AND I WAS EVEN MORE PLEASED WITH WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

I WAS REALLY PLEASED THAT HE SHARED HIS EXPERIENCE BECAUSE HE DID FACE A MEDICAL TRAGEDY.

AND THE WAY HE PUT IT WAS REALLY NOT ONLY ENCOURAGING, BUT FULFILLING, AND THE MESSAGE OF GOOD NEWS THAT THERE IS LIFE AND LIFE IN ABUNDANCE.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATED YOU COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND BEING BOLD WITH WHAT YOU SAID AND BEING THERE FOR OUR CHRISTMAS LIGHTING OPPORTUNITY. I ALSO WANT TO END WITH THIS MAN.

THE CHRISTMAS PARADE WAS SUCH A HEAVY LIFT FOR OUR FOR OUR, UH, EMPLOYEES.

THIS IS WHY I JOINED YOU IN GARNERING THAT.

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THAT EXTRA DAY, EACH AND EVERY EMPLOYEE SHOWED.

SOME VOLUNTEERED, SOME WORKED COMP TIME.

HOWEVER, THEY DID IT AND WE WERE REALLY TRIED BECAUSE WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT HAD TO BE OUT OF TOWN BECAUSE THEY HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY, AND WE SHOULD RECOGNIZE THAT.

BUT I WANT TO RECOGNIZE OUR PIO.

CHRISTINA BOURNE, WHO STEPPED UP AND DID THE LIVE, UH, SHOOT.

BUT IT DOESN'T STOP THERE.

AT THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.

I SAW A YOUNG LADY.

I BELIEVE HER NAME IS EMILY.

RECREATION. YOU KNOW, THIS WOMAN HAD A BOOT ON.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, SHE WAS IN PAIN AT THE CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING.

I CAME BACK THAT EVENING AND SHE WAS STILL WORKING.

AND THEN TO SEE HER WORK LATE AT NIGHT THE VERY NEXT DAY WITH HER BOOT.

I KNEW SHE WAS IN PAIN, BUT SHE DID IT WITH A SMILE.

AND I WANT TO COMMEND HER AND FRED.

I'M LETTING YOU KNOW SHE IS AN OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE AND WE'RE BLESSED TO HAVE HER.

SO I SAY THIS TO OUR EMPLOYEES.

OUTSTANDING JOB.

WHAT I SAW AT THE CHRISTMAS DAY PARADE WAS THE LARGEST CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY.

STILL HAVE THAT SMALL TOWN AFFAIR COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER.

I REJOICE WHEN I SEE FAMILIES TOGETHER.

I SAW CHILDREN AND BABIES JUST HAVING A GREAT TIME.

THERE WAS ONE CHILD.

WELL, THERE WAS A FEW, BUT THIS ONE THAT WAS JUST SAYING IT'S CHRISTMAS.

SHE'S YELLING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS.

IT WAS SUCH A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO WITNESS THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.

AND BEYOND THAT, IT WAS COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER.

SO I ENCOURAGE OUR EMPLOYEES, LET'S CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF EVENT EACH AND EVERY DAY.

WE LOVE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY HANUKKAH TO ALL MY FRIENDS HERE, HERE.

AND I END WITH THAT.

MADAM SHERMAN, I KNOW YOU HAVE.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A LONG LIST TONIGHT AND USUALLY LONG LIST, SO I'LL TRY TO BE AS QUICK AS I CAN WITH IT.

LONGER THAN MINE. IT COULD BE.

UH, FIRST IS I NEED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD OF BREVARD COUNTY REQUESTING A JOINT WORKSHOP WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY LEADERSHIP.

AND THEY. THEY REALLY WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING, YOU KNOW, WITH EACH THEIR BOARD AND OUR COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT A VARIETY OF POTENTIAL TOPICS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE SOME SYNERGY BETWEEN OUR TWO ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY'VE GIVEN ME IN THE LETTER A LIST OF 10 OR 12 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE CONVERSATION TOPICS.

AND THOSE INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, UM, REVIEWING GROWTH MANAGEMENT, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR FUTURE PLANNING, JOINT USE, COLLABORATION ON FACILITIES, UM SUPPORT AND COLLABORATION ON CITY AND COUNTY AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, AND A WIDE RANGE OF OTHER THINGS.

SO JUST WANTED TO GET CONSENSUS FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND WORK ON SCHEDULING THAT AS AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR CHARTER PROHIBITS YOU ALL FROM HAVING MEETINGS OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US.

OKAY. UM, I'M ACTUALLY GOOD WITH THAT.

I ALSO LIKE TO ADD ON TO THAT AGENDA, UH, AMERICAN HISTORY.

YES, SIR. SCHOOLS.

I THINK YOU ALL CAN FREELY DISCUSS ANY TOPICS.

I'M JUST SAYING I'D LIKE TO.

THEY GAVE US A LIST, SO I WANT TO.

I WANT TO THROW A LIST TO THEM.

OKAY. FAIR AMERICAN HISTORY.

ALL RIGHT. UH, MILITARY HISTORY.

UH, SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

I'VE NOTED IT DOWN. CURRICULUM.

GOT IT. OKAY.

UH. THANK YOU. UH, THE NEXT THING I HAVE.

AND I'M SORRY, THAT WAS CONSENSUS.

YES, YES. OKAY, WE SAID THUMBS UP, BUT AMERICAN HISTORY.

MILITARY HISTORY.

I'VE NOTED THAT, TOO. YES.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YES. I'M FLORIDA AND YOU'RE WITH THE MILITARY HISTORY TOO, AREN'T YOU, SIR? YES. I'M FOR ALL HISTORIES.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU. SIR.

UM, I WANTED TO, ON BEHALF OF STAFF, SINCE YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED THIS ADDITIONAL DAY, I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF STAFF.

I KNOW THEY WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT GESTURE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, I ALSO WAS GOING TO ECHO THE COMMENTS OF COUNCIL JUST TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE AMAZING WORK THAT'S BEING DONE THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.

THE PARADE WAS TREMENDOUS.

UM, THE HOLIDAY TREE LIGHTING WAS TREMENDOUS, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MORE EVENTS STILL TO GO AND LOTS OF TEAM MEMBERS STILL ACTIVELY WORKING.

BUT I'M JUST SO PROUD OF EVERYTHING.

EVERY EVERYONE DOES EVERY DAY.

AND I KNOW YOU SEE IT AND APPRECIATE IT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT AS WELL.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT I REALLY WANTED TO RECOGNIZE WAS A TREMENDOUS EFFORT BY SOME OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS TO IMPROVE CASTAWAY COVE PARK.

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FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN THERE IN QUITE SOME TIME, THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS EFFORT THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS NOW.

SOME OF IT WAS GRANT FUNDED, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE.

BUT THEN WE ALSO HAD THESE, UM, SIGNIFICANT WIND AND RAIN EVENTS THAT WERE CAUSING SOME WASHOUTS AT CASTAWAY.

AND SO, UM, TWO THINGS HAPPENED FAIRLY RECENTLY THAT I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE.

FIRST, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC TEAM OF MEMBERS WHO WERE PART OF THE PARKS AND FACILITIES TEAM.

SO GREG MINER IS THE DIRECTOR OF HIS DEPARTMENT, AND I WANT TO CALL THEM OUT BY NAME BECAUSE THEY REALLY TOOK PERSONAL OWNERSHIP IN, IN THE PARK AND IN MAKING IT, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A GEM OF THE CITY, AS WE KNOW.

AND IN MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN RESTORED BACK TO A PLACE WE CAN BE PROUD OF.

UM, SO THOSE THOSE TEAM MEMBERS ARE MIKE HARDIMAN, ERIC SHERMAN, TIM SHERMAN, JESSICA BOURNE, ERIC ARNDT.

AND THEY JUST REALLY AND THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE EXAMPLES OF MANY EMPLOYEES WHO TAKE THEIR JOBS VERY SERIOUSLY, AND THEY HAVE PASSION FOR WHAT THEY DO.

AND THESE TEAM MEMBERS HAD PASSION.

FOR WHAT THEY DID AND YOU CAN TELL IN THE PICTURES.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO TAKE A LOOK.

I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS, BECAUSE THEIR TEAM MEMBERS CAME ALONGSIDE THEM AND DID THE UPDATED TRIMMING ALONG FROM BAY BOULEVARD TO STEARNS PARK, STEARNS POINT. SO THE WHOLE AREA LOOKS REVITALIZED BASED ON THEIR WORK.

SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT.

UM, NEXT THING I HAVE IS THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA EVENTS.

AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IT'S A CO SPONSORED EVENT.

WE'RE WORKING, UM, ACTIVELY WITH THE, THE GROUP THAT'S PLANNING IT WITH THE CHURCH AND ALL AND, AND ITEM CAME UP THAT I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION AND GIVE YOU REQUEST CONSENSUS FOR AND THIS IS BEYOND OUR CURRENTLY APPROVED CO-SPONSORSHIP UM, UH, IN-KIND CALCULATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU.

AND THE REQUEST CAME FROM AN IDEA THAT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IF YOU WERE ON THE FLOAT, WE TOOK A AN OLD PAL BUS, AND WE USED THAT TO TRANSPORT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE ON THE FLOAT FROM HERE TO, UM, TO EASTERN FLORIDA.

WELL, THE IDEA CAME UP TO POTENTIALLY USE THAT AT THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA EVENT ON THE 16TH, BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. ONE OF WHICH IS THERE'S A WE BELIEVE THERE'S GOING TO BE A GREATER NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS THIS YEAR THAN EVER BEFORE.

SO THAT MEANS THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC ISSUES.

AND THE ORGANIZER HAS ALREADY HIRED AN OUTSIDE COMPANY TO PROVIDE, UM, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SERVICE.

BUT WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AN IDEA FOR IS THE POTENTIAL TO USE THAT BUS AS A WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO AND FROM SOME OF THE FURTHEST FURTHER PARKING SPACES THAT ARE THAT ARE IN THE PARK TO TRY TO PROVIDE REALLY A SAFER WAY TO GO BACK AND FORTH.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COST WOULD BE REALLY WE ALREADY HAVE STAFF THAT WILL BE THERE.

SO IT'S NOT ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME.

IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE THE COST OF LIKE THE FUEL AND THE VAN, BUT OR EXCUSE ME, THE BUS.

BUT WE THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL BENEFIT TO SOME OF THE FOLKS.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO WALK AS FAR.

SO MY REQUEST REALLY IS WOULD YOU CONSIDER A CONSENSUS ITEM ON THAT FOR THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, ASK? IT WAS AN IDEA THAT CAME UP AFTER THE CO-SPONSORSHIP, SO WE DID NOT INCLUDE IT, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY INCLUDE IT NEXT YEAR.

AND THAT REQUEST TO.

OKAY. THOUGH.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ASK ME, BUT MAYBE ASK.

UH COUNCILMAN.

I WANT TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS.

IT'S GOING TO. WELL, I'LL SPEAK ON YOUR BEHALF, MAYOR.

IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR EVERYBODY AT THE EVENT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SO. AND IF YOU COULD GET COUNCILMAN FOSTER, UH, TO WEIGH IN.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YES, MAYOR.

ARE YOU PART OF THE CONSENSUS THAT.

YOU KNOW WHAT? UH, CITY MANAGER'S ASKING FOR? I COULDN'T HEAR ALL THE WAY.

IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE PARK AND CASTAWAY PARK.

UH, NO, SIR, I CAN JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

UM. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY.

RIGHT NOW. YEAH.

OKAY. SO JUST BRIEFLY, THE ITEM I WAS REQUESTING COUNCIL CONSENSUS FOR IS AN ADDITIONAL USE OF CITY RESOURCES FOR THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA EVENT THAT'S COMING UP ON DECEMBER 16TH.

AND THAT REQUEST IS TO USE A CITY BUS, ESSENTIALLY, THAT WE HAVE FROM THE PAL PROGRAM TO HELP WITH TRANSPORTING PEOPLE IN THE PARK WHO WILL BE PARKING AT FURTHER PARKING, PARKING LOT AREAS TO MOVE THEM TO AND FROM THE EVENT, AND THE PARKING AREAS THAT WAS NOT IN THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED CO-SPONSORSHIP.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO ADD THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL AMENITY TO HELP THE FOLKS WHO WILL BE VISITING THE EVENT.

UM, WALKING FROM EXPERIENCE.

THE LAST TIME I WERE AT THE GINZA, I SUPPORT THAT 1,000%.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, AND THEN MY LAST COUPLE ITEMS, I, UM, YOU ALL AS PART OF YOUR CONSENTS, UM, LIST.

YOU APPROVED THE FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

SO THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO, TO MAKE MENTION TO YOU, AND YOU ALSO APPROVED TRAVEL FOR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOAN BROWN TO GO IN FEBRUARY 2ND WASHINGTON,

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DC TO BEGIN THE THE LOBBYING FOR OUR ITEMS WITH THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS AND STAFFERS.

SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL FOR IS, UM, DIRECTION ON WHETHER YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEMBER OF COUNCIL PARTICIPATE IN THAT TRIP.

WE DID THAT LAST YEAR.

SO WE'VE WE'VE ALLOCATED WE WOULD REQUEST TO ALLOCATE THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY FOR THAT TRAVEL.

AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW IF A MEMBER OF COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN JOINING, UM, JOAN ON THAT TRIP SO WE CAN HAVE COUNCIL REPRESENTATION AS WELL.

WHEN WE MEET WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THOSE OFFICES AND THINGS, I THINK, UH, I WOULDN'T MIND GOING.

I NOMINATE DONNY FELIX.

THE. COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

UH, I DID LAST YEAR.

I CERTAINLY THINK IT IS A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THAT.

UM, MAYOR WISH TO GO.

UM, I'M WILLING TO YIELD.

UM, SO, MAYOR, GET TO GO THIS YEAR? YEAH. OH, IF YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT OR ANY.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH.

YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH. I'M GOOD WITH.

THANK YOU, COUNSELOR AND FOSTER.

BUT I'M, I'M GOOD WITH THE MAYOR GOING THIS YEAR.

SAME. DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? NO, SIR. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

AND MY ONE LAST ITEM OFFICIALLY IS, UM.

UH, NEXT WEEK, I'M LOOKING FOR THE ABILITY TO HAVE A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO COVER AN ITEM THAT I'VE BRIEFED YOU ALL ON ALREADY.

AND IT IS THE ITEM RELATED TO, UM, SEVERAL CHANGES WE'RE REQUESTING TO MAKE TO FIRE DEPARTMENT PAY.

UM, THAT SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION CONCERNS, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE A REALLY LONG MEETING.

THERE'S THREE ITEMS, AS YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE NOT OVERLY COMPLICATED, BUT I WOULD REQUEST CONSIDERATION FOR MEETING NEXT WEEK IF WE COULD.

UM, THE TWO DATES THAT WE'VE KIND OF BEEN LOOKING AT IS EITHER TUESDAY OR THURSDAY NEXT WEEK, DEPENDING ON EVERYONE'S AVAILABILITY.

I BELIEVE COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS AVAILABLE BOTH DATES.

YEAH, WELL, I SEE TUESDAY AT 530, 1730.

RIGHT. THAT IS THAT THE DATE? BECAUSE I'M GOOD FOR THAT DATE.

TUESDAY'S DATE TUESDAYS THE 12TH AT 530.

YES. I'M SORRY. THE TUESDAYS THE 12TH AND THURSDAY WOULD BE THE 14TH.

THOSE WOULD BE THE TWO DATES WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I DIDN'T CHECK THE 14TH, MAN.

I'M GOOD FOR THE 14TH.

OH, LET ME SEE.

I HAVE TO CHECK THE CALENDAR, MA'AM.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW.

I CHECKED THE 12TH.

SO THE 14TH AT 1730, MA'AM, IS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THURSDAY AT THAT TIME WORKS FOR US AND THAT DAY DOES AS WELL IF IT WORKS FOR COUNCIL.

SO YEAH.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS ONLY GOOD FOR THE 14TH, RIGHT? YOU'RE THE ONLY. IS THAT YOUR ONLY DAY? YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE 14 TWO.

OKAY. SO I'LL, I'LL MAKE I'LL MAKE IT THE 14TH.

UM. OR MAYBE I'LL MAKE IT FOR THE FOURTH, UH, CITY RELATED EVENT THAT DAY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW.

SO I GET PAID THE BIG BUCKS FOR.

RIGHT? BUT, NO, I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

UH, FOR 1730, THOUGH, NOT 1800.

RIGHT? 1735 35.

UH, AS YOU PLEASE FOR THE LAY PERSON.

THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE TPO THAT DAY.

SO THAT'S. YEAH.

THAT'S THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE 6:00 WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT THAT THAT THAT'S FINE.

THAT'LL GIVE US TRAVEL TIME.

GOD BLESS YOU, SIR. GOD BLESS YOU.

OKAY. IT'S 1730.

OR DID YOU GUYS PREFER 6:00? THAT'S FINE. I CAN DO EITHER ONE 1730 OR, AS YOU WERE, 530.

THANK YOU SIR. UM, AND THEN I BELIEVE, UH, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AN ADDITIONAL ITEM.

YES. UM, SINCE WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING DECEMBER 14TH, UM, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS HAS REQUESTED THAT I ASK YOU ALL IF HE WOULD BE AMENABLE TO HAVING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UM, FOLLOWING THIS STARTING AT 530.

WE START THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 6:00.

IT'S ONLY ON ONE CASE.

WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE MOST TIMES WE SET IT FOR 30 MINUTES.

I DON'T ANTICIPATE THIS WILL PROBABLY LAST MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.

IT IS A REVOLVING, UH, INVOLVING A CASE, UM, FLAXMERE VERSUS THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT IS SET FOR TRIAL IN JANUARY.

SO IT JUST WANTS TO BE ABLE TO GET A LITTLE, UM, DIRECTION FOR, UM, COUNSEL AND FURTHER UPDATE COUNSEL WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE CASE IF COUNSEL IS AMENABLE TO THAT.

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SO YOU IT IT'LL BE 1800 HOURS THEN AT AT 6:00.

YES AT 6:00.

SO SAME DAY THE 14TH.

YEAH. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.

SINCE WE'RE MEETING HERE, SHE WANTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT.

WELL, WE'RE HERE, GUYS, WE'RE HERE ANYWAY, SO.

ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE CLEAR FOR TAKEOFF, MA'AM.

SO. SO I CAN OFFICIALLY, UM, GET ALL THE ACTUAL LEGALLY REQUIRED INFORMATION.

AND IT IS FLASHFIRE VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY.

CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE, 2021 CA 021271.

AND THE ATTENDEES WILL BE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN, CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH, AND DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY RODNEY EDWARDS.

THE ATTORNEY CLIENT SESSION IS EXPECTED TO LAST NO MORE THAN 30 MINUTES IN LENGTH AND WILL BE DECEMBER 14TH AT 6:00 PM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

AND SO NOW WE'RE UP TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BUTCH JORDAN.

EXCUSE ME. BUTCHER RAN TO 19 TRENTON AVENUE.

UM, YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT RELIGION AND EVERYONE WORKING TOGETHER.

HAVE YOU EVER PUT OUT AN INVITATION TO OTHER RELIGIOUS LEADERS TO COME IN AND HOLD THE INVOCATION FOR CITY COUNCIL? YOU GOT CATHOLICS AND HINDUS AND JEWS AND IT GOES OUT.

UH, WE WE DON'T EVEN.

AND BUT FROM WHAT I'M TRACKING, IT'S FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

RIGHT. SO WHAT I'M TRACKING, THERE ARE NO SYNAGOGUES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE ONLY ONE THAT WAS IS NO LONGER.

UH, I DON'T SEE OF ANY.

UH, BUT THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY, BUT IF YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER.

THAT'S THE BEST WAY.

SO THE OTHER THING IS, AND THIS ONE, I'M REALLY LATE ON, BACK IN NOVEMBER THE 5TH, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE OPINION PAGE ABOUT A, UM.

CREATIVE WRITING TEACHER OUT AT BAYSIDE HIGH, AND SHE HAD HER STUDENTS WRITE THESE ARTICLES, AND I'VE ONLY GOT THE ONE COPY OF IT, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO LEAVE IT WITH YOU GUYS.

IT'S VERY INTERESTING.

THEY TALK ABOUT PARKING HAZARDS.

THEY TALK ABOUT, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE.

BIG DREAMS CAN PAY OFF BANNING BOOKS.

THESE ARE THE STUDENTS NOW.

THE NEW DRIVE IN.

RAIN INSPIRED COURSES OF ACTION FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND BEWARE OF BREAST CANCER.

STUDENTS WROTE THESE LETTERS AND THEY'RE VERY WELL WRITTEN.

SO WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE THIS AND REVIEW IT, OR I CAN THROW IT IN THE TRASH, WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO WITH IT, YOU'LL TAKE IT AND DISTRIBUTE IF YOU WANT.

SHERMAN WILL TAKE MISS SHERMAN WILL TAKE IT.

OKAY. I'LL DISTRIBUTE IT.

NO. WHO'S THE NERD IN THE GROUP? AND ONCE AGAIN, CAN YOU PLEASE PUT PRESSURE ON SOMEBODY TO GET MITTON ROAD FIXED? YOU TALK ABOUT COLLECTOR ROAD DANGERS.

THE SIDE ROAD IS FALLING APART.

I'VE SEEN A GUY COMING OVER HERE RUN OFF THE ROAD.

BARELY GOT BACK HIS CAR UNDER CONTROL BECAUSE THE ROADWAY ITSELF, RIGHT OF WAY, IS WASHED OUT ALONG THE SIDE OF THE ROAD BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROADWAY.

BIG, BIG SPACE.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS SUZANNE CURSE.

WELL, I THINK. WHO SUZANNE SUZANNE CURSE.

OKAY, SO IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISH TO SPEAK? MASTER CHIEF, COME ON UP.

I HAVE THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU, MR. CHIEF. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IN PUBLIC.

COMMENTS, PLEASE. THE FIRST ONE, THE STATEMENT WAS, WELL, WE'RE GROWING SO FAST THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO HANDLE THE INFLUX OF THE REQUESTS.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

HIRE OUTSIDE SOURCING.

WELL, THERE'S A SOLUTION TO THAT.

AND IF THE GROWTH IS SO FAST THAT WE CAN'T MAKE INTELLIGENT DECISIONS, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD SLOW THE GROWTH DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THAT WOULD MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE HAPPY.

THAT'S JUST ONE.

IT IS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

IT MIGHT NOT BE THE SOLUTION YOU WANT, BUT IT IS A SOLUTION.

THE NEXT ONE, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE TREATMENT PLANT, AND I KIND OF TOOK IT A LITTLE BIT PERSONAL WHEN SAYING I WASN'T AWARE OF WHAT I WAS

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TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I REALLY DO PAY ATTENTION, I REALLY DO.

AND MY REPORTS I BROUGHT IN WAR, THE REPORTS, THE LATEST REPORT THAT I WAS ADDRESSING THAT STUFF FROM.

AND IT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANTS, NOT TREATING THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS, NOT TREATING TO THE SPECIFICATION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE WATER TO GO BACK INTO THE LAGOON.

THAT'S WHY WE PUMP IT DOWN.

THE CRITERIA IS THERE AND IT IS AVAILABLE.

I UNDERSTAND WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON OUR SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS.

I SEE THAT, I APPRECIATE IT, BUT MOST OF THAT IS 100% FOR EXPANSION FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING IN, BUT NOT FOR THE INCREASE IN THE QUALITY OF THE AFFLUENT AFTERWARDS.

AND IF I COULD SEE A TREATED UP TO THE POINT THAT WE COULD PUMP IT INTO THE LAGOON, WE WOULD BE SAVING SOME MONEY, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD TO SPEND MONEY UP FOR THE TREATMENT.

AND SOME OTHER IDENTITIES ARE ALREADY BEING AFFECTED BY THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEING MANDATED BY STATE.

AND THE CANAVERAL, PORT CANAVERAL IS ALREADY ONE OF THEM, WHERE THEY'VE BEEN MANDATED TO CHANGE THEIR WATER TREATMENT UP THERE.

SO I'M SPEAKING FROM SOME KNOWLEDGE.

I'M NOT THE I'M NOT YOUR DIRECTOR OF THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND THE GRADING OF YOUR PIPES.

I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT.

AND THE LAST QUESTION WAS, WHAT DATE WERE YOU CONSIDERING ON GOING TO WASHINGTON? WAS THAT GOING TO INTERFERE WITH A COUNCIL MEETING? I DIDN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE DATE WAS.

I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION BECAUSE I SAW IT WAS FOR STAFF AND NOT FOR COUNCIL.

SO IF YOU COULD TELL ME THAT DATE, IF IT'S ON A THURSDAY, FIRST OR THIRD, THEN THEN I'LL.

I'LL SPEAK ILL OF IT.