Jan 18, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

RIGHT NOW. SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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THE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

PLEASE RISE.

COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. AND CLOSE YOUR EYES.

THANK YOU. FATHER. DEAR, MOST GRACIOUS AND HEAVENLY FATHER.

FIRST OFF, LORD, THANK YOU FOR WAKING US UP THIS MORNING SO WE CAN BE HERE.

GOD. THANK YOU LORD FOR PROVIDING FOR OUR FAMILIES SO WE CAN BE HERE IN THIS MOMENT.

YES, THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE POOR ITEMS, THOSE FOR AGAINST ITEMS. GOD. BUT WE'RE ALL HERE UNDER THIS.

WE COULDN'T BE HERE WITHOUT YOU.

BLESS THE MAYOR. BLESS OUR COUNCIL, BLESS OUR RESIDENTS.

BLESS FREE SPEECH.

YES. BLESS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOUR GOVERNMENT WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES AND OTHER NATIONS CAN'T DO THE SAME.

BLESS OUR STAFF FOR BEING HERE.

BLESS THEIR FAMILIES. KEEP ALL EVERYBODY SAFE AND OUT OF HEALTH ISSUES.

AND THANK YOU GOD IN THIS MOMENT, I THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU FOR BEING FOR ME AND HELPING ME GROW ON THIS COUNCIL.

I THANK YOU FOR HELPING ALL OF US GROW ON THIS COUNCIL.

IN JESUS NAME. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

IT NEVER GETS OLD FOR ME.

IT'S SO MOTIVATING TO HAVE EVERYONE IN UNISON SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH, DEPUTY.

ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS BY PHONE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER HERE.

MISS SHERMAN HERE.

MISS SMITH HERE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS]

EXECUTIVE BOARD.

THREE TERM EXPIRING ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

REPRESENTATIVE ADULT MEMBER POSITION.

FOUR TERMS EXPIRING ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

REPRESENT STUDENT POSITION.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON ANY OF THESE BOARDS CAN REACH OUT TO AT PALM BAY.

FLORIDA. ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK OFFICE AT (321) 952-3414.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

WE'RE ON AGENDA REVISIONS.

I HAVE NONE, SIR. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

NO, SIR. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH. TELL YOU ONE OF THE THING I ENJOYED THE MOST ABOUT OUR JOB BEING UP HERE.

ALL POSITION IS TO BE ABLE TO ELEVATE OTHERS TO PRAISE AND OTHERS TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY.

DEPUTY MAYOR, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD GET CLOSER TO THE MIC OR RAISE IT UP? THANK YOU MAYOR. IT'S WORTHY OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO.

PREYS ON INDIVIDUALS LIKE US THAT THAT SERVE NOT ONLY OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THAT SERVE THE GREAT COUNTRY OF OURS.

THIS YOUNG MAN RIGHT HERE.

SERVE OUR COUNTRY FOR OVER 55 YEARS.

YES. YES, EXACTLY.

AND IT'S INTERESTING I SAID, YOUNG MAN, BUT HE PUT 55 YEARS IN SERVICE OF OTHERS.

24 YEARS OF ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY AND 31 CIVIL SERVANT.

THAT THAT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PUT ALL IN TOGETHER FOR HIM.

WELL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, HIS WIFE HAS TO THREATEN TO TO IN RETIREMENT.

SO I HAD THE PRIVILEGE AGAIN TO BE PART OF, OF RETIREMENT PARTY AT PATRICK AIR FORCE.

IT WAS TRULY. WHAT AN HONOR.

WHAT A PRIVILEGE. I FELT MOTIVATED TO CONTINUE SERVING.

I GOT A LONG WAY TO GO.

RIGHT. SO, TRULY, WHERE IS A MILITARY COMMUNITY? COME TOGETHER. HIS CHURCH MEMBERS COME TOGETHER.

IT'S TRULY.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A MORNING OF OF PRAISES AND REALLY THEY, YOU KNOW, THE TESTIMONIAL ABOUT THIS YOUNG MAN.

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AND, AND, I FELT TRULY HONORED AND PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO STAND NEXT TO YOU AND RECOGNIZE YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND, MISS AMY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR THE INTRODUCTION.

MY PLEASURE. THESE ARE FOLKS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY.

I FEEL TRULY PRIVILEGED TO, PRESENT THIS FLAG TO YOU.

AND ALSO THE CERTIFICATE AS WELL.

OKAY, IF I MAY.

YEAH. MR. EARL JOHNSON, BY THE WAY, HE'S SO SPECIAL.

THEY USED TO CALL THEM EARL THE PEARL JOHNSON.

I MUST ADD THAT, YEAH.

SO CERTAINLY WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS FLAG TO YOU AND THIS CERTIFICATE FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THIS.

THANK YOU. AND ALSO.

MR. EARL, WOULD YOU LIKE.

GRACIOUS US WITH A FEW WORDS.

TO ALL THAT I HAVE SERVED HERE IN PALM BAY.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY SINCE 1981.

THAT'S WHERE MY SERVICE STARTED, HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

BUT I WAS A MEMBER OF BREVARD COUNTY SINCE 1971.

BUT IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO SERVE A COUNTRY AS WONDERFUL AS THIS.

YOU DON'T GET THIS FAR BY YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF BROTHERS, A LOT OF SISTERS TO HAVE YOU IN YOUR PATH OF JOURNEY.

AND MOST OF ALL, YOU HAVE JESUS CHRIST LEADING AND DIRECTING YOUR PATH NORTH IN YOUR STEPS.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID FOR ME.

AS I STAND HERE, I STAND HERE THANKING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

IF YOU WASN'T THERE IN PHYSICAL, YOU WERE THERE IN SPIRIT.

EVERYBODY PRAISE AMERICA, GOD BLESS AMERICA.

AND HE BLESSED ME AND I TRIED TO BLESS OTHERS AS I CAME.

I TRAVELED JUST ABOUT ALL OVER THE WORLD.

BUT I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING THERE WHEN WE NEEDED YOU.

WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH TAXES, WHETHER IT WAS VISITATION, WHETHER IT WAS THROUGH A CARE PACKAGE.

YOU SUPPORTED US AS AMERICAN SOLDIERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE GREATLY APPRECIATE.

GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.

MR. EARLE. MR. EARLE? YES, SIR.

THREE MRS MRS JOHNSON.

WOULD YOU JOIN US, PLEASE? CERTAINLY. EARL WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT HE'S DONE WITHOUT MISS JOHNSON AS WELL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH.

GREAT, MAN.

RIGHT. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I THOUGHT EARL THE PEARL WAS GOING TO GIVE US A DISSERTATION.

HE'S GOING TO START PREACHING.

PRAISE THE LORD.

TALK ABOUT SERVICE BEFORE SERVING SOMEONE ELSE.

CONSIDERING OF OTHERS BEFORE YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF EARL.

VERY WELL PUT, BROTHER.

OUTSTANDING JOB.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE TO OUR NATION, OEUVRE AND COMMUNITY.

SO RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, I'VE GOT THOSE THAT HAVE SACRIFICED TIME AND VOLUNTEERING SERVICES TO OUR GREAT CITY.

AND I'M GOING TO CALL THESE INDIVIDUALS UP BECAUSE, I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE THEM.

NOW, BEFORE I DO, I JUST WANT TO SET SET THE TONE HERE.

IN THE MILITARY, WHENEVER YOU GET RANK, YOU GET A PINNED ON YOU.

WHENEVER YOU GET A SIGNIFICANT RIBBON, YOU GET IT PINNED ON YOU.

AND WHAT'S SO SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THAT IS WHEN YOUR COLLEAGUES AND YOUR TEAMMATES PIN IT ON YOU, THEY DRAW BLOOD.

THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT WHEN BLOOD IS DRAWN THAT THERE'S A SACRIFICE THAT SEALED.

BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT TO OUR VOLUNTEERS HERE TODAY.

BUT I'M GOING TO STIMULATE THAT PROCESS.

SO JAMIE HERSCHEL, CHANEL WALKER, JERRY WILLIAMS, WOODSON FENSON OR FENNELL FENELON, JANE HIGGINS, IF YOU'RE ALL HERE, PLEASE STAND UP.

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COME ON.

TO ME, IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT FOR THE MAYOR TO PIN THIS PIN ON EACH AND EVERY VOLUNTEER.

IT'S A SYMBOL OF HONOR.

IT'S A SYMBOL OF RESPECT.

AND ALTHOUGH I WON'T BE DRAWING BLOOD TO SEAL THAT COVENANT, I WILL BE SIMULATING THAT.

AS I MENTIONED, A BASIC INGREDIENT IN THE FOUNDATION OF OUR CITY IS THE WILLINGNESS TO TAKE INITIATIVE AND THE VOLUNTARY ACCEPTANCE OF RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR BY OUR PRIVATE CITIZENS.

EACH INDIVIDUAL THAT IS HERE TODAY HAS SOME CONTRIBUTION TO OFFER TO THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS.

AND YOU, AS A VOLUNTEER, HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE WELL-BEING OF OUR FELLOW RESIDENTS, THE WELFARE OF ALL OUR CITIZENS.

BY GIVING TIRELESSLY OF YOUR TIME AND ENERGY, WITHOUT DESIRE FOR RECOGNITION OR REMUNERATION OR ANY PERSONAL GAIN.

THE VOLUNTEER PIN IS JUST A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR YOUR LOYAL AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE.

FAITHFULLY RENDERED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT SACRIFICE.

THE TIME THAT THEY'RE DEVOTING TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU COULD NEVER BE REPLACED.

IT IS A TIME OF SACRIFICE.

IT IS A SEED THAT IS SOWN IN THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR CITY.

AND TO FURTHER EXPLAIN.

EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS.

IT IS A SEED THAT WILL COME BACK AND MANIFEST ITSELF IN A POSITIVE MANNER.

I'LL SAY IT THIS WAY.

IF A FARMER SOWS TOMATO SEEDS, DOES HE EXPECT? BANANAS. IF YOU SO LOVE, YOU WILL RECEIVE LOVE.

AS AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU SOW DISCORD, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

BUT THESE PEOPLE, THESE VOLUNTEERS THAT ARE BESIDE ME, THEY'RE SOWING A TIME AND EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR CITY, AND THEY ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR THAT SACRIFICE.

SO FIRST UP, I'M GOING TO CALL JAMIE BECAUSE LADIES FIRST, I WILL NOT BE DRAWING BLOOD.

BUT THERE'S SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT ABOUT ME LAYING THIS PEN RIGHT ON ME.

DRAW MY NICE OUTFIT.

YES, MA'AM. I'M EXCITED YOU DID THAT.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

I DON'T REMEMBER DOING THIS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE.

THANK YOU. NEXT, I'LL CALL WOODSON FENELON.

THAT'S CORRECT. AWESOME.

WHAT'S IN EUROPE, MAN? SO I'M GOING TO PIN IT ON YOU FOR SURE.

GIVE IT TO ME. SO, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I WANT TO.

I'M STILL DECIDING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE.

FORCES. THANK YOU.

THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT? AND LOGAN LEWIS.

LOGAN. THANK YOU SIR.

OF COURSE, FOR SERVING THIS GREAT CITY.

MY PLEASURE. I APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATED SERVICE.

NOW THIS ONE. I'M REALLY GOING TO JAM IN THERE.

WE GOT PALM BAY BANDITS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

SO I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU, MISS JAMIE.

I HAVE TO SAY WORDS.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY, I WASN'T PREPARED.

I'M LIKE JUGGLING SOCCER PRACTICE.

I WANTED TO MAKE TIME TO COME.

I'VE BEEN A PALM BAY RESIDENT FOR, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS EIGHT YEARS.

MOVED TO, MOVED TO FLORIDA FROM OHIO.

AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE I SAW A LOT OF THINGS HAPPEN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT I FELT LIKE I WASN'T AWARE OF.

AND SO I'VE LOVED IT SO FAR.

I'M LEARNING SO MUCH, AND EVERYBODY IS SO GREAT AND TAKES THE TIME TO EXPLAIN KIND OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

SO IT REALLY IS EMPOWERING TO GET INVOLVED AND TRY TO GET OTHERS.

SO THAT'S IT. THANKS SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. I DON'T DO SPEECHES.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO, CONTRIBUTE TO TO THE CITY, WHEREVER NEEDED.

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THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU.

LOGAN. THEN WE'LL CHECK, AGAIN.

THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

MOVING TO BREVARD COUNTY ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, RIGHT BEFORE GRADUATING FROM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA, I WAS IN THE FFA, FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA, AND ONE OF THE MOTTOS WAS LIVING TO SERVE. SO SINCE THEN, THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND THROUGH NOW, DOING ANYTHING I CAN FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE COUNTY, FOR OUR CITIZENS HERE.

IT'S A HUGE ASPECT TO ME BECAUSE OF MY LIFE STORY, WHAT'S BEEN DONE FOR ME, I LIKE TO DO FOR OTHERS.

SO IT'S A PLEASURE TO DO THIS, AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY AND TO HAVE THAT GRATEFUL HONOR.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

I'M SURE IT'S FOR OTHER TOPICS, BUT IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU ALL, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY.

SAY CHEESEBURGER. CHEESEBURGER.

THANKS. THANK YOU.

YEAH, SHE TOLD ME.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH.

THAT'S COOL.

MY DISCERNMENT. THANK YOU MADAM SHERMAN.

WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

HI, NANCY. HELLO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SUZANNE.

GOOD EVENING.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MAYOR. I DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT TO WRITE ABOUT, HONESTLY, FOR TONIGHT, BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN IN THIS JOB A LITTLE OVER EIGHT YEARS, AND BEFORE I ALWAYS HAD TO REALLY EXPLAIN WHY THE CHAMBER WAS IMPORTANT AND THINGS THAT WE WERE DOING.

AND THE THREE OF YOU ARE AT SO MANY THINGS AND KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AND ARE VERY INVOLVED, AND THAT'S BEEN SUCH A TREAT FOR THE CHAMBER TO HAVE THIS KIND OF PARTNERSHIP.

SO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT A CHAMBER IS, I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK SOMETIMES WE ARE JUST A NETWORKING ORGANIZATION AND WE ARE SO MUCH MORE. SO I THOUGHT I WOULD SHARE A LITTLE BIT.

OVERALL AND THEN WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR 2024.

SO FLORIDA HAS A $1.2 TRILLION ECONOMY.

IT MAKES US OUR STATE, THE 17TH LARGEST IN THE WORLD.

IF WE WERE A COUNTRY.

AND WE ARE NUMBER FOUR, THE FOURTH LARGEST STATE IN THE UNITED STATES, BY 2030, WE WILL NEED 1.21 MILLION MORE JOBS THAN ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE, AND AUTOMATION WILL CONTINUE TO REPLACE OUR JOBS.

THE SAD THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLORIDA SCORECARD, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR JOBS AND THE JOBS THAT ARE OPEN CONTINUE TO WIDEN AS FEWER PEOPLE COME INTO THE LABOR MARKET.

TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING HOW WE LIVE AND WORK.

TALENT IS GOING TO MATTER, ESPECIALLY WITH COGNITIVE NON-AUTOMATED JOB GROWTH AND THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS PROCESS.

WE BRING TOGETHER BUSINESSES SO THAT WE CAN DO COLLECTIVELY WHAT WE CAN'T DO BY OURSELVES.

WE ARE A MEMBER BASED ORGANIZATION OF BUSINESSES SEEKING TO FURTHER OUR COLLECTIVE INTERESTS WHILE ADVANCING THE COMMUNITY, THE REGION, THE STATE AND NATION.

OUR MISSION IS TO SERVE, ADVOCATE AND PROMOTE FOR OUR CONSTITUENCY.

OUR NUMBER ONE JOB IS TO SAFEGUARD THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

SINCE WE ARE THE LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION IN PALM BAY, OUR MEMBERS RANGE FROM HOME BASED TO CORPORATIONS.

WHEN THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY GROWS AND PROSPERS, THE COMMUNITY GROWS AND PROSPERS.

HAVING A STRONG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HELPS DRIVE THAT PROSPERITY.

THE RESOURCES WE PROVIDE ASSIST NEW, EXISTING OR EXPANDING COMPANIES TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES TO TACKLE THROUGH CHALLENGES, INCREASING PRODUCTIVITY, AND UNDERSTANDING THE EVER CHANGING ISSUES THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY.

ALL CHAMBERS TEND TO FOCUS TO SOME DEGREE ON FIVE PRIMARY GOALS BUILDING COMMUNITIES.

PROMOTING THE COMMUNITIES.

STRIVING FOR PRO-BUSINESS CLIMATES REPRESENTING A UNIFIED VOICE OF THE EMPLOYER COMMUNITY AND ASSISTING IN ENSURING NETWORKS THAT FUNCTION WELL. IF YOU HAVE SEEN ONE CHAMBER, YOU'VE SEEN ONE CHAMBER.

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HOWEVER, THE PALM BAY CHAMBER, COCOA BEACH REGIONAL CHAMBER AND MELBOURNE REGIONAL CHAMBER AND THE TITUSVILLE AREA CHAMBER ARE BRINGING TOGETHER COMMUNITY COMMUNITY LEADERS TO GO TO TALLAHASSEE ON JANUARY 30TH AND 31ST TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF BREVARD COUNTY.

WE WILL ADVOCATE THE ISSUES OF BUSINESS BY PRESENTING OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CELEBRATE BREVARD DAYS UP AT THE CAPITOL.

IT CERTAINLY SHOWS THE SPACE COAST SOLIDARITY WHEN SO MANY BUSINESSES CAN COME TOGETHER, AND THEY ALWAYS COMMENT ON HOW MANY DO COME UP FOR BREVARD DAY.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT AT THE END OF THE MONTH.

WE ALSO ADVOCATE ON A LOCAL LEVEL, WORKING WITH PALM BAY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN.

MEMBERS APPRECIATE IT WHEN WE CAN CONNECT THEM TO COMMUNITY RESOURCES AND TO CITY STAFF.

DOROTHY OR DOTTIE WITH THE SPACE COAST MOBILITY, WAS OVERJOYED TO HAVE MAYOR MEDINA AND SUZANNE SHERMAN SHOW UP LAST NIGHT FOR HER RIBBON CUTTING.

WHEN BUSINESSES SEE THAT KIND OF SUPPORT FROM THEIR COMMUNITY LEADERS, IT SENDS A POWERFUL MESSAGE THAT PALM BAY IS A GREAT PLACE TO OPEN A BUSINESS.

THE CHAMBER IS A WELL RESPECTED BRAND AND AN INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED RESOURCE WITHIN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.

CONSUMERS LOOK TO THE CHAMBER TO PROVIDE TRUSTED INFORMATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND GENERALLY RECOGNIZE THAT THE CHAMBER HELPS CREATE JOBS AND PROMOTES LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. CHAMBERS ARE THE NUMBER ONE PLACE PEOPLE GO WHEN SEARCHING FOR INFORMATION ABOUT A COMMUNITY.

ACCORDING TO THE SHAPIRO GROUP, CONSUMERS ARE 63% MORE LIKELY TO BUY FROM CHAMBER MEMBERS AND FELLOW BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, OR 59% MORE LIKELY TO BUY GOODS AND SERVICES FROM YOU.

IF THEY KNOW YOU ARE A CHAMBER MEMBER.

AN INITIATIVE THE CHAMBER OUR CHAMBER GOT INVOLVED WITH THREE YEARS AGO AND HAS REALLY STARTED TO GAIN TRACTION HERE LOCALLY IS THE FLORIDA CHAMBER FOUNDATION'S FLORIDA PROSPERITY PROJECT, A FLORIDA EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY INITIATIVE PROGRAM.

IT HAS LED A MOVEMENT TO UNITE BUSINESS, CIVIC AND PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITIES TO ENSURE EVERY CHILD IN FLORIDA HAS A PATHWAY TO PROSPERITY.

TO HELP FLORIDA LEADERS SPEARHEAD THE EFFORT, THE FLORIDA PROSPERITY PROJECT CREATED THE FLORIDA MODEL, HIGHLIGHTING THE TEN ROOT CAUSES OF POVERTY AND THE PATH TO PROSPERITY TO ERADICATE THEM ONE ZIP CODE AT A TIME.

OUR CHAMBER IS NOW TAKING A BOLD STANCE.

CHILDHOOD POVERTY IS ONE OF THE GREATEST ECONOMIC CHALLENGES WE FACE, AND IF NOT COMBATED, IT WILL IMPACT NOT ONLY THE ECONOMIC WELL-BEING OF FLORIDA RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO FLORIDA'S FUTURE ECONOMIC GROWTH.

WE ARE MAKING THIS A BUSINESS ISSUE.

THE AMERICAN CENSUS SURVEY RELEASED UPDATED CHILDHOOD POVERTY FIGURES, AND CURRENT DATA SHOWS THAT 737,567 FLORIDA CHILDREN ARE LIVING IN POVERTY.

IT HAS GONE DOWN SINCE 2015, WHEN THE PROGRAM STARTED, AND IT'S SHOWING THAT THE TREND IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AT OUR JANUARY LUNCHEON LAST WEEK, WE DISCUSSED OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH CLUB ESTEEM AS THEY HAVE 100% SUCCESS RATE WITH ALL THE STUDENTS THAT GO THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM AND THEY COLLABORATE WITH OVER 60 OTHER COMMUNITY AGENCIES.

WE ARE NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, BUT WE ARE BEING THAT CONDUIT TO BRING TOGETHER ORGANIZATIONS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BREVARD PROSPERITY INITIATIVE MEETS THE FIRST FRIDAY OF EACH MONTH AT CLUB ESTEEM FROM 11 TO 1230, AND ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN GETTING INVOLVED OR FINDING OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS WELCOME.

THE STATEWIDE 2024 FLORIDA PROSPERITY AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY SOLUTION SUMMIT IS MAY 23RD, AND WE WILL LIVE STREAM THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

OKAY. I ACTUALLY, I GUESS WROTE MORE THAN I THOUGHT, SO.

GOING A LITTLE FASTER.

AND I'LL PROBABLY BUTCHER THIS NAME, BUT, COURIR DE ALLAIN, IT'S, IN IDAHO.

IT HAS A POPULAR. IT HAD A POPULATION OF 25,000.

AND THE CHAMBER THERE REACHED A GOAL OF A THOUSAND MEMBERS.

IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, A THOUSAND MEMBERS OF A POPULATION OF 25,000.

WHEN EVERYONE ASKED HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THEIR MEMBERSHIP THAT LARGE, THEY SAID THEY WERE ALLOWED TO BE BIG.

THEY WERE ABLE TO GO FOR IT ONCE THE RESORT AND CONFERENCE CENTER WAS BUILT, SINCE IT ALLOWED THEM TO HOST 900 PEOPLE OR MORE AT THEIR EVENTS INSTEAD OF THE REGULAR 150 SEATS, WHICH HAD FORCED A LOT OF CHAMBER MEMBERS TO BE LEFT OUT.

IF YOU CAN'T HOLD THEM IN A ROOM, IT'S HARD TO HOLD THEM AS MEMBERS MEET SMALL, BE SMALL.

WE KNOW PALM BAY HAS A LIMITED CAPACITY FOR EVENT SPACE, BUT DESPITE THE LIMITED CAPACITY, WE HAVE CONTINUED TO GROW LARGER.

WE HAD 188 NEW MEMBER PARTNERS LAST YEAR, PUSHING US TO OVER 536 MEMBERS.

AND WE'RE GOING STRONG WITH 14 NEW PARTNERS ALREADY THIS MONTH.

OUR SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM WAS SOLD OUT LAST YEAR WITH 360 ATTENDEES AND NO MORE ROOM TO GROW.

THIS YEAR, WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE ASTRONAUT MEMORIAL FOUNDATION TO HOST THE EVENT AT THEIR KENNEDY SPACE CENTER FACILITY THAT CAN HOLD 550 ATTENDEES.

I KNOW IN TIME, A NEW VENUE LOCATION WILL BE BUILT IN PALM BAY, AS THE CITY HAS RAPIDLY INCREASED ITS RESIDENTS TO OVER 136,000.

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I ALWAYS SAY THE CHAMBER IS A CONDUIT FOR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

WE ARE CONNECTED TO ELECTED OFFICIALS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS AND DISSEMINATE INFORMATION FROM ALL OF THEM TO THOSE ON OUR EMAIL LIST EVERY WEEK IN OUR CHAMBER. INTEL. WE BELIEVE IN COLLABORATION AND LOOK TO PARTNER WITH OTHERS, MAKING A LARGER IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THE SUPPORT THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN SUCH A HUGE HELP WITH OUR GROWTH.

THE PARTNERSHIP WE NOW HAVE WITH THE CITY HAS PROPELLED US TO A WHOLE DIFFERENT LEVEL.

JANUARY 25TH, THE PALM BEACH CHAMBER IS LAUNCHING THE SPACE COAST ALLIANCE FOR TECH AND INNOVATION AT FLORIDA CENTER FOR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND INNOVATIVE DESIGN COMMIT.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS ALSO SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE.

EACH MONTH, AS WE BRING BOTH LARGE AND SMALL COMPANIES TO TOGETHER TO DISCUSS HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER, BEST PRACTICES, AND EDUCATE ON THE BUSINESSES HERE IN BREVARD. THIS EVENT IS OPEN TO THE ENTIRE PUBLIC, AND THE JANUARY 25TH WILL FEATURE NATALIE COLVIN FROM NASA KENNEDY SPACE OFFICE, A SMALL BUSINESS, ALONG WITH ELAINE LARSON, TWO TIME WORLD JET DRAGSTER CHAMPION.

SHE'LL FIRE UP HER JET CAR, WHICH IS ALWAYS EXCITING.

BUT EACH MONTH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO COMPANIES PARTICIPATING, INCLUDING LOCKHEED MARTIN WISEMAN WORLDWIDE, 11 ENERGY SERIES, ALLUVIAL INSCRIPT, L3, HARRIS POLAR CONSULTING, EIGHT COI, AND MANY, MANY MORE.

AND HAVING THESE COMPANIES COME TO PALM BAY ENABLES US TO DISCUSS THE EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN PALM BAY, AS THESE ARE THE TYPES OF INDUSTRIES THAT CAN PROPEL OUR GROWTH.

SO WE HAVE A FULL SLATE OF EVENTS COMING UP THIS YEAR.

I WON'T ANNOUNCE EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I HOPE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO JOIN US FOR OUR 35TH ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION.

OUR GALA ON JULY 19TH AND THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER IS MORE THE NETWORKING GROUP.

WE ARE A PILLAR IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HELPS DRIVE GROWTH, PROVIDE FUTURE VISION, AND WORK TO ASSIST THE BUSINESSES THRIVE.

THANK YOU. SO, NANCY, THANK YOU ALL.

FIRST, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO TO START.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH IN OUR PALM BAY CHAMBER.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING. AND AS YOU KNOW, THIS COUNCIL HAS CHANGED THE WAY OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS AND CREATING ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES, TO INCREASE JOBS.

AND THAT HAS BEEN THE MISSION.

AND AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE A NEW CHAIRMAN.

YES, WE DO. AND SO I THOUGHT YOU'D TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE THE NEW CHAIRMAN.

IF YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO.

YES. SO, WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE SURPRISED, BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW, KNOW FOR 2024, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS DAVID JONES, AND HE IS THE CEO AND FOUNDER OF DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT.

HE'D LIKE TO COME UP AND THEY CAN SEE YOU ON CAMERA.

COME ON UP. COME ON UP, MR. JONES. THANK YOU.

I WILL SAY THIS, WHAT NANCY AND HER STAFF DOES IS UNBELIEVABLE.

THEY ARE NOT A LARGE TEAM, BUT THE IMPACT IS PHENOMENAL.

AND OUR BOARD IS THERE REALLY JUST TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO ENHANCE, HER VISION, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

AND AND REMOVE ANY ROADBLOCKS, AND MAKE THEIR LIVES EASIER.

BUT, EVERY BOARD MEMBER THAT WE HAVE IS DEDICATED TO SEE THE GROWTH OF PALM BAY IN THE SOUTH OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT, THAT YOU GIVE.

WE TRULY, TRULY, GENUINELY APPRECIATE IT.

I'M A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE LOCATED IN PALM BAY.

MY BUSINESS WOULD NOT HAVE THE SUCCESS THAT IT.

HAS HER LOCALLY IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE CHAMBER.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR ME TO GIVE BACK.

BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT'S DONE FOR ME AND MY ORGANIZATION.

SO THAT'S A GREAT TESTIMONY, MR. CHAIR. YEAH, I THINK TESTIMONY.

WE LIKE HIM. SO I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. NOTHING ELSE TO ADD.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT US BEING UP AT KENNEDY SPACE CENTER THIS YEAR.

LIKE, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

LIKE THE OPPORTUNITIES.

THE SYMPOSIUM, THE THE AMOUNT OF NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES HAVE CREATED BECAUSE OF THE CHAMBER AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT YOUR TEAM HAS DONE.

THE WOMEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT ALL HERE, BUT YOU'RE ALL SMALL BUT MIGHTY.

YOUR TEAM, LIKE Y'ALL GET A LOT DONE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

SMALL BUT MIGHTY. BUT THEY GET THINGS DONE AND Y'ALL GET THINGS DONE TOGETHER.

SO I'M EXCITED FOR THE FUTURE AND WHAT'S TO COME, MR. PRESIDENT? AND, THAT'S IT MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT.

OH, YEAH. YEAH. YEP, YEP.

MR. CHAIR, MADAM PRESIDENT, THERE WE GO.

I DON'T WANT HER JOB. I'M NOT SURE I DO, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. A LOT HAS BEEN SAID, I MEAN, WE COULDN'T ADD ANY MORE.

I COULDN'T ADD ANY MORE.

CERTAINLY THE NUMBERS SPEAKS FOR THEMSELVES.

WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

IT TRULY.

I'M VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT.

I CONSIDER MYSELF A TEAM, PART OF THE TEAM AS WELL.

CERTAINLY. THAT'S WHY WE SHOW THE SUPPORT.

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SO THAT'S WHY I PERSONALLY DO.

I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUE WOULD, WOULD, SUPPORT THAT STATEMENT.

THAT'S WHY WE SO ENGAGE AND INVOLVE HANDS ON, IN YOUR DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, AND AND I CAN I'LL ADD THAT, MAYOR, I KNOW YOU YOU YOU'RE A DREAMER. YOU'RE A VISIONARY.

I'LL SAY THAT IF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS LISTENING, WE'VE HEARD THE NUMBER.

SMALL COMMUNITY OF 25,000 ARE ABLE TO GROW THE CHAMBER TO A THOUSAND MEMBERS.

PART OF THE REASON WHY THEY BUILT A SPACE THAT CAN RETAIN A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

SO IF YOU'RE LISTENING, WE NEED A CONVENTION CENTER, RIGHT? RIGHT. WE NEED A CONVENTION CENTER.

STAFF AND COUNCIL WILL WORK WITH YOU.

BRING IT ON.

LET'S HELP US GROW.

LET'S HELP GROW OUR COMMUNITY, OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU MA'AM. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MADAM SHERMAN NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE NEXT ITEM IS A PRESENTATION BY CLAYTON MCCORMICK WITH INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES.

WE'RE PROVIDING A SUMMARY FOR YOU OF THE WASTEWATER AND ON SITE SEWAGE TREATMENT AND DISPOSAL SYSTEMS. DRAFT REMEDIATION PLAN.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CLAYTON MCCORMICK.

I'M A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER AND SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH THE FIRM OF INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTION SERVICES.

WE ARE ONE OF TWO OF YOUR CONTINUING ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS THAT WORK WITH UTILITIES.

I AM A PALM BAY RESIDENT AND I'VE BEEN ASSOCIATED ACTUALLY.

THE FORMER UTILITY DIRECTOR IN 2007 ASKED ME PERSONALLY TO MOVE TO PALM BAY TO ASSIST UTILITIES, AND IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE SINCE 2007 TO ASSIST UTILITIES IN THEIR STAFF IN ORDER TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD WITH PROJECTS AND DEVELOPING THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE TO WORK FOR YOU.

WHAT THE NEWS I HAVE TO SHARE TONIGHT IS ONE THAT ANY RESIDENT IN PALM BAY THAT HAS A SEPTIC TANK WILL WANT TO LISTEN TO.

EVERY SINGLE SEPTIC TANK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY WILL BE IMPACTED BY THESE NEW REGULATIONS COMING DOWN FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE.

OKAY. ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DO IS TO PROTECT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO UPGRADE OUR SEPTIC TANKS.

SO THE CITY RECEIVED WHAT'S CALLED A FINAL ORDER.

THIS IS A DOCUMENT THAT CAME FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION.

AND WHAT THAT FINAL ORDER ESSENTIALLY TOLD THE CITY, IN ALL COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WAS THEY HAD TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE REMAINING SEPTIC TANKS AND THEIR WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS, IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THEM IN ORDER TO TAKE OUT ADDITIONAL NUTRIENTS.

OKAY. THE CITY'S DRAFT PLAN TO THE DEPARTMENT IS DUE IN FEBRUARY FEBRUARY 1ST AND THE FINAL.

THEN THE DEPARTMENT WILL REVIEW THOSE PLANS, OFFER UP SOME COMMENTS, AND THEN THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO REVISE THOSE PLANS AND SUBMIT A FINAL PLAN IN JULY.

ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THESE PLANS DO IS THEY TELL DEP WHAT THE CITY'S INTENT IS IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THEIR SEPTIC TANKS.

ARE YOU GOING TO UPGRADE THE SEPTIC TANKS OR ARE YOU GOING TO CONNECT THEM TO CENTRAL SEWER? THOSE ESSENTIALLY ARE THE CHOICES.

THE SUBMITTAL THAT WE'RE DOING IN FEBRUARY IS MORE OF A, MORE OF A DATA ANALYSIS IS TO GIVE THE GIVE DEP DATA.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DATA AND WHERE THAT DATA COMES FROM.

SO ALL THESE REGULATIONS COME THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED A B MAP.

AND THE B MAP IS THE REGULATORY FRAMEWORK BY WHICH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION GOES IN AND LOOKS AT THE WATER QUALITY OF OUR WATER BODIES.

AS AN EXAMPLE, THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

AND THROUGH THAT REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, THEY ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE IN THE LAGOON AND HOW TO BEST ADDRESS THEM.

SO THE B MAP FOR THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON WAS PUT TOGETHER IN 2009, AND IN THAT PLAN THEY IDENTIFIED THAT NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS WERE THE PRIMARY POLLUTANTS OF CONCERN.

AND SO WHAT THEY HAVE, WHAT THE B MAP ATTEMPTS TO DO, IS TO ACHIEVE BETTER WATER QUALITY IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON BY 2035.

IN 2020, WHEN THE DEP LOOKED AT THE PROGRESS TO TOWARDS THOSE GOALS.

THE AREA, THE REGION PALM BAY, BUT THE REGION IN GENERAL HAD WAS ABLE TO TAKE OUT ABOUT 25% OF THE OF THE NITROGEN AND ABOUT 51% OF THE PHOSPHORUS TO DATE.

SO WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS, BUT WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.

AND SO PART OF THIS SOLUTION IN THE RIVER LAGOON ISN'T JUST PALM BAY, BUT IT'S ALL THE REGIONAL PARTNERS AS WELL.

SO IT'S THINGS LIKE THE SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON PROGRAM, WHICH IS FUNDING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE LAGOON.

WE'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT BREVARD COUNTY PLANT IN THE BMAP PROCESS, AS ARE ALL THE OTHER LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND ANY STATE AGENCIES THAT HOLD LAND, SUCH AS FDOT.

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SO OUR STATE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW LAST SESSION THAT'S CALLED THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON PROTECTION PLAN.

IN THAT PLAN, THERE'S TWO VERY SPECIFIC PROVISIONS THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE CITY.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT ANY NEW SEPTIC TANKS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED AFTER JANUARY 1ST THIS YEAR HAVE TO BE WHAT'S CALLED AN ENHANCED NUTRIENT TYPE.

SO THOSE ARE A SPECIAL TYPE OF OF SEPTIC TANKS, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A LITTLE BIT THAT REMOVE ADDITIONAL NITROGEN.

THE SECOND REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN THAT PROGRAM IS THAT ALL REMAINING SEPTIC TANKS BY 2030 MUST BE UPGRADED.

SO THAT ALLOWS SIX YEARS IN ORDER TO UPGRADE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF SEPTIC TANKS IN THE CITY.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS PROGRAM IS THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS NOW APPROPRIATING $100 MILLION PER YEAR TO HELP FUND THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO THOSE LAST SET OF GRANTS CAME OUT A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND MANY COMMUNITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY RECEIVED MONIES THROUGH THAT PROGRAM, AND WE WOULD EXPECT PALM BAY TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE GRANT MONIES THROUGH THAT PROGRAM IN THE FUTURE.

SO REALLY QUICK.

WHAT IS WHAT ARE THESE? ENHANCED NUTRIENT REMOVAL SEPTIC TANKS.

A TRADITIONAL SEPTIC TANK, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, IS A TANK IN THE GROUND.

YOUR SEWAGE FROM YOUR HOUSE FALLS INTO THAT TANK.

THE LARGE PARTICLES SETTLE TO THE BOTTOM, THE LIQUID FLOWS TO THE TOP AND THEN GOES OUT INTO THE DRAIN FIELD.

AND ULTIMATELY THAT DRAINS INTO OUR GROUNDWATER.

WHAT THESE ENHANCED NUTRIENT SYSTEMS DO IS THIS IS MORE OF A MECHANICAL DEVICE RATHER THAN A PASSIVE DEVICE.

AND THESE DEVICES REMOVE APPROXIMATELY 65% OF THE NITROGEN, MUCH MORE THAN THE CURRENT TANKS DO.

OKAY, THEY ARE ALL THERE ARE 4 OR 3 SPECIFIC TYPES OF SYSTEMS, AND THEY'RE ALL DEP APPROVED.

SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE MANUFACTURERS THAT ARE APPROVED BY NAME AND MODEL NUMBER.

OKAY. MOST OF THESE DEVICES HAVE A BLOWER.

SO WE'RE BLOWING AIR INTO THE SEPTIC TANK.

SO THERE'S A MECHANICAL DEVICE THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.

THERE'S AN ELECTRICAL COMPONENT TO IT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE BILLED FOR THAT ELECTRICAL CHARGE TO KEEP THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT RUNNING.

THE CURRENT ESTIMATES FOR THESE FOR THESE UPGRADING THESE SEPTIC TANKS, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO, IS BETWEEN 15 AND $20,000.

OKAY. THE LOW SIDE OF THAT RANGE WAS ACTUALLY USED BY THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION IN THEIR ANALYSIS OF THEIR RULES.

THE COST OF THESE RULES, WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM BREVARD COUNTY IS ACTUALLY ON THE HIGHER END OF THAT, MAYBE APPROACHING $30,000.

OKAY, SO THESE ARE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE SYSTEMS AND A SIGNIFICANT BURDEN TO OUR TAXPAYERS FOR SURE.

SO CURRENTLY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THERE'S ABOUT 27,000 28,000 EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS IN THE CITY.

OF THAT, OF THAT TOTAL, ABOUT 800 NOW HAVE BEEN ALREADY UPGRADED.

MOST OF THOSE TANKS THAT WERE UPGRADED ARE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY BECAUSE I WHEN I DRIVE AROUND TOWN, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF NEW CONSTRUCTION AND THEY'RE ALL ON SEPTIC.

SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER BASED ON INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND BREVARD COUNTY.

SO WE ESTIMATE THAT BASED ON YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS JUST APPROVED, THAT APPROXIMATELY 6000 ADDITIONAL SEPTIC TANKS WILL BE ADDED TO THE CITY OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.

ALL THOSE WILL BE IN THE ENHANCED NUTRIENT TYPE BECAUSE IT'LL BE NEW SYSTEMS, BUT THERE ARE MORE SEPTIC TANKS COMING INTO THE CITY FOR SURE.

SO, WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS THE CITY NEEDS TO IDENTIFY AS, LIKE I SAID, WHICH OF THESE EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS WILL HAVE TO BE UPGRADED AND WHICH ONES WILL BE CONVERTED TO CENTRAL SEWER.

AND SO, AS YOU FOLKS KNOW, YOU APPROVED IN OCTOBER A SEPTIC TO SEWER PROGRAM FOR A LIMITED NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT ALREADY HAD SEWER AVAILABLE TO THEM.

RIGHT. AND YOU HAVE FUNDING FOR THOSE PROGRAMS, RIGHT.

SO THAT'S ABOUT 1000 CONNECTIONS.

THAT'S ABOUT 1000 CONNECTIONS.

THERE'S ANOTHER 900 OR ANOTHER 99 CONNECTIONS THAT ARE IN WHAT'S CALLED THE PHASE A AREA.

AND THAT'S AN AREA THAT'S UP NEAR TURKEY CREEK THAT'S ALREADY HAS SOME SORT OF FUNDING, NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THE PROJECT, BUT SOME PORTION THAT COULD BE COVERED BY SOLAR RIGHT NOW. AND THEN AS PART OF OUR WORK, WE IDENTIFIED ANOTHER ANOTHER AREA, WEST OF WEST OF BABCOCK, NEAR PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD OR PORT MALABAR SCHOOL, ANOTHER 1700 SEPTIC TANKS THAT COULD BE CONVERTED.

AND THEN AREA C, WHICH IS PART OF LAMAR SOUTH, PART OF LAMAR, ANOTHER 400 SEPTIC TANKS.

SO PART OF OUR PROGRAM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY ABOUT 3300 OF THESE, 27,000 SEPTIC TANKS THAT COULD BE CONVERTED, THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TO CENTRAL SEWER.

AND THE COST OF THAT PROGRAM IS ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $150 MILLION.

SO IF WE HAVE 27,000 EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS, WE ALREADY HAVE CONVERTED ABOUT 800.

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THAT LEAVES ABOUT 23,000 SEPTIC TANKS IN THE CITY.

AND THE ESTIMATED COST OF THAT PROGRAM IS $500 MILLION.

IT'S A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE TO OUR TAXPAYERS.

OKAY. JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, UTILITIES HAS ESTIMATED THAT IF WE WERE TO CONNECT THE ENTIRE CITY TO CENTRAL SEWER, THAT'S $2 BILLION AND PROBABLY A 20 YEAR OR 30 YEAR PROGRAM.

OKAY. SO SEWAGE IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

SO THE OTHER PART OF THIS PLAN IS TO LOOK AT OUR EXISTING TREATMENT PLANTS.

AND WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO UPGRADE THOSE.

SO I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS.

I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS ABOUT OUR TREATMENT PLANS.

THE SOUTH REGIONAL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.

IT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE END OF THE YEAR, ALREADY MEETS THE NUTRIENT REMOVAL GOALS OF THE PROGRAM.

SO THOSE ARE ALREADY BEEN THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DESIGNED IN THE SYSTEM.

AND IF THAT WHEN THAT FACILITY EXPANDS OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS, THOSE EXPANSIONS WILL ALSO HAVE THOSE COMPONENTS.

SO THAT FACILITY IS ALREADY SET AND READY TO GO.

YOUR WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

THAT'S A FACILITY ON THE WEST SIDE OF CLAREMONT.

THAT FACILITY WAS UPGRADED IN 2022 USING SORLA FUNDS.

SO THAT FACILITY IS UNDER THAT FACILITY, RECEIVED THE FUNDS AND MEETS THE NUTRIENT REDUCTION GOALS.

SO THAT FACILITY IS TAKEN CARE OF.

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THOUGH, IS NOT QUITE THE SAME STORY.

THAT FACILITY DOES NOT MEET THESE NUTRIENT GOALS TO GET THE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS OUT OF THE EFFLUENT.

IF THAT FACILITY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO UPGRADE, WHICH IS AN IF THAT'S ESTIMATED TO BE BETWEEN 10 AND $15 MILLION.

SO OVERALL, IN TERMS OF COMPLYING WITH THIS DEP REQUIREMENT TO TAKE CARE OF SEPTIC TANKS IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS GOING TO OUR LAGOON, WE HAVE ESTIMATED ABOUT $665 MILLION.

AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING UP.

THEY'RE ONLY GOING UP.

PARTICULARLY UTILITY CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

SO WITH THAT, WE'VE BEEN, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS ISN'T GREAT NEWS.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT'S COMING DOWN FROM THE EP.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY DREAMED UP.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SOME CONSULTANT DREAMED UP.

THIS IS A REQUIREMENT THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE EP.

AND IT'S ALL ABOUT PROTECTING OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON OUR LAGOON, AND ALL OF THE SEPTIC TANK IMPROVEMENTS IS DESIGNED AND INTENDED TO TAKE NUTRIENTS OUT IN ORDER TO PROTECT OUR LAGOON.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK, SIR.

I REALLY APPRECIATE, THIS THIS REPORT.

I SEE THAT MY COLLEAGUE IS CHOMPING, GRABBING THE MIC, SO I'LL LET HIM ENSUE FIRST.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. I APPRECIATE IT, MAYOR.

NO, IT'S JUST NO, I DO.

I'M GLAD WE PASSED WHAT WE PASSED IN OCTOBER.

I WISH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE IN A BETTER STATE IN 2019 FOR IT TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A LOT LESS SEPTIC TANKS ALREADY RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COMPARED TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT CAN'T CRY OVER SPILLED MILK.

I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE NOW IN REGARDS TO WHAT STAFF AND LEGISLATION AND STATE LEGISLATORS WHAT WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR IN REGARDS TO GETTING FUNDING TO OFFSET THE COSTS, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S CRAZY, BUT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO OFFSET THE COSTS.

BECAUSE OF THIS. WE HAD AN IDEA.

BUT TO ACTUALLY SEE THAT NUMBER, IT'S ASTONISHING.

NUMBER. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS. SO SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO US.

I'M GLAD IT'S A PACKED AUDIENCE.

I KNOW IT'S FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I'M GLAD IT'S A PACKED AUDIENCE SO THEY KNOW.

AND THEN THE WORD IS GOING TO GET OUT.

AND FOR THOSE WHO SHARE THE LIVE FEED LIKE THIS, THIS IS ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE.

SO THAT'S IT, MAYOR THAT THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, NOT ONLY ACROSS THE WHOLE STATE, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS PRESENTATION UP ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE NEED TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC ON A CONSISTENT BASIS TO HAVE EVERYONE BE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE FACING AND WHAT'S COMING DOWN.

THE DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE A LOT TO ADD.

IT'S A LOT OF BIG NUMBERS.

BUT THIS IS REALITY.

THIS IS REALITY. I, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST SAID, CERTAINLY THE THE STEPS AND THE MEASURE, WE TOOK A COUPLE OF MONTHS, YOU KNOW, BACK, IT'S JUST PUTTING US ON THE PATH OF, OF, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ADDRESSING THE ISSUE.

RIGHT. SO EVERY LITTLE STEP COUNT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW, HOPEFULLY WITH, WITH MORE HELP COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL LEVEL AND STATE, WE CAN CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THIS, THIS POTENTIAL ISSUE.

SO I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD REAL QUICK, ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THESE PLANS TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT TO THE STATE IS FOR THE STATE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE MAGNITUDE CLOSER TO THE MIC, SIR. SURE. ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PURPOSES OF THIS PLAN IS TO LOOK AT THIS AT A STATE LEVEL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUNDING REQUIREMENT IS.

OKAY, $100 MILLION IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON IS NOT ENOUGH TO COVER THESE COSTS.

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2030. YEAH.

2030. YEAH.

SIX YEARS FROM NOW.

OKAY. BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE FOR SURE.

COPY THAT. AND I'LL CLOSE OUT WITH TINA.

YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU WERE SITTING ON HERE IN 2019, AND I KNOW THAT YOU CONTINUE TO, KICK YOURSELF OVER THAT, BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU.

WE'VE ALREADY TURNED THAT PAGE.

AND SO NOW IT'S IT'S A NEW DAY.

THIS, THIS THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS.

BUT I LOVE THE WAY YOU TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THAT.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT, SIR, I KNOW THAT YOU YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT SEVERAL COMMENTS.

WHENEVER WE DISCUSS SEPTIC TO SEWER AND, THERE'S A THERE'S A SINCERITY.

THERE'S SOMETHING GENUINE ABOUT IT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAY IT.

SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR BEING SO CANDID WITH THAT.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS REPORT.

MOREOVER, I THINK WE NEED TO, INFORM OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY.

AND AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS REPORT, WHAT WE'RE FACING AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO WE GOT TO START STRATEGIZING ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO START THE DISCUSSION STARTS TODAY, AND NOW WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE FACING AND WE HAVE TO KEEP THIS IN THE FOREFRONT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK, SIR.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

SO THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATIONS.

WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

OH. WHICH ONE? AS YOU WERE. WE MAY HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF.

YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY. AS YOU WERE, SIR.

MR. COOK. STANDFAST.

YEAH. AND MR. BILL BATTEN. THANK YOU, MR. COOK. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

GET IT CLOSER, MASTER CHIEF.

THANK YOU. BETTER.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

WE HAD A FEELING THAT THIS WAS COMING DOWN THE PIKE WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I'M CALLING BACK CLEAR UP TO 2001 WHEN WE STARTED SAYING FEDERAL GRANT MONEY BECOMING AVAILABLE TO MAKE ORGANIZATIONS LOOK AT WHAT THEY COULD DO.

BUT ALL I SEEM TO SEE ANYMORE, BECAUSE I WATCHED THE DATA THAT'S NOT CHANGING IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

THE DATA IS NOT CHANGING, BUT WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OUT THERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IT.

WHAT I DO SEE CHANGING IS JOB EMPLOYMENT FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT GOVERN OVER US.

SO ME BEING THE DOUBTING TOM THAT I AM AND FAITH IN MY GOVERNMENT, I'M GOING TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I JUST SAW DURING THIS LITTLE PRESENTATION.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

11 YEARS. THAT WOULD BE 2035.

WE MUST ACHIEVE MUST ACHIEVE THE LOAD REDUCTION.

WELL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

WE'RE NOT SEEING A REDUCTION IN IT NOW, AND WE'RE ALREADY IMPLEMENTING THESE PROCESSES.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I HAVE FIVE ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THAT.

AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2024, ALL NEW HOMES MUST BE ON THE NEW OCDS SYSTEMS. THAT'S WHAT THE A-RATED SYSTEM THERE'S THERE'S SEVERAL FAULTS WITH THAT ONE.

IT VENTS NAUSEOUS FUMES THROUGH THE AIR VENT ALL THE TIME.

IT SMELLS LIKE A SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT.

WHEREVER YOU HAVE THESE IN YOUR IN THESE NEW SYSTEMS AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

TWO IT REQUIRES ELECTRICITY.

SO WHEN THERE'S A POWER OUTAGE, ALL THAT AERATION SYSTEM IS GOING THROUGH YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM.

IT ALL FAILS ON ALL YOUR SYSTEMS SETTLED TO THE BOTTOM, AND YOU CAN'T PUMP AIR THROUGH IT ANYMORE.

SO YOU HAVE TO BRING A TECHNICIAN OUT TO RESTART YOUR SYSTEM AND AERATE IT AGAIN.

VERY EXPENSIVE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE YOU REQUIRE AN ANNUAL PUMP OUT.

AN ANNUAL PUMP OUT.

YOU'D BE CHEAPER TO BUILD A BIG HOLDING TANK AND HAVE THAT TAKEN TO THE SECRETARY'S STATEMENT TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT, INSTEAD OF PUTTING THIS IN YOUR YARD, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO DO THAT ANNUALLY AT A SIGNIFICANT COST.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR OPERATING COST.

ANNUAL OPERATING COSTS FOR THE SYSTEM IS $500.

THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE OLD SYSTEMS. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE AN ANNUAL INSPECTION.

WHO IS GOING TO BE DOING THE ANNUAL INSPECTION? IS IT GOING TO BE CITY, STATE, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? HOW MUCH DOES THAT GENERATE BACK INTO THE SYSTEM?

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THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOLKS.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DO LOOK AND I DO WATCH THIS IS A FANCY, EXPENSIVE SYSTEM JUST LIKE THE OLD ONES.

BUT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GET RICH IMPLEMENTING THEM AND GOVERNING THEM.

SORRY I RAN OUT OF TIME, I HAD MORE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. MR. COOK. MAYOR.

COUNCIL STAFF. THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS RON COOK AND I LIVE AT 714 PENGUIN AVENUE NORTHEAST AND PALM BAY.

WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY IS, FLOODING AND SWALE CONTROL AND CULVERT CONTROL.

FROM MY TRAVELS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND ESPECIALLY IN LAKEMOOR AREA.

EMERSON, ALL I SEE IS FLOODING WATER CONSTANTLY.

I HAVE PICTURES I TOOK THE OTHER DAY ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THE RAIN WILL STAY THERE FOR 5 TO 6 DAYS IN THESE HOLES.

THE REASON BEING IS THE CULVERT IS PACKED.

IT'S ALL SOLID.

JUST LIKE THAT ONE RIGHT THERE.

THERE'S NO WATER ABLE TO EVEN GET INTO THAT CULVERT PIPE.

NOW TALKING TO THE CITY.

THE SWALE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PALM BAY.

THEY HAVE BIG MACHINES THAT SPEW ALL THAT DIRT UP ONTO YOUR LAWN.

AND THEN EVENTUALLY, SOMETIMES IT WILL COME BACK IN.

THE ELDERLY, THEY CAN CALL INTO THE CITY.

NOT A PROBLEM. AND THE CREW WILL REMOVE THAT DIRT, BUT THEY WILL NOT TOUCH THE CULVERT.

APPARENTLY THEY HAD A LARGE TRUCK YEARS AGO.

THEY USED TO HAVE A JET STREAM.

SORRY. AND IT WOULD PULL ALL THAT GARBAGE OR ALL THAT SOIL OUT OF THE CULVERT PIPE.

BUT DUE TO LIABILITY, YOU DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

SO IT'S THE HOMEOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.

NOW, IF THAT PIPE IS CLOGGED TO REMOVE ALL OF THAT DIRT AND SEDIMENT IN THERE.

MAJORITY OF ALL THESE RIGHT HERE.

IT'S THE CULVERT ITSELF IS OKAY.

IT'S THE SWALE THAT'S BUILT UP ONTO THE CULVERT WITH GRASS AND DEBRIS.

IF THE CITY WERE TO CONSTANTLY.

YOU'RE ALREADY CLEANING THE SWALE LINE.

IF THE CREW WAS ABLE TO REMOVE THAT DIRT FROM THE ENTRANCE OF THAT PIPE, I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS. IF YOU GO UP ON MALABAR ROAD AND YOU TURN NORTH ONTO EMERSON AND YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE IS PROBABLY 15FT OF WATER ON BOTH SIDES, AND IT HASN'T RAINED IN TWO DAYS NOW.

MOSQUITOES. AND THE GENTLEMAN JUST TALKED ABOUT THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THAT WATER WILL STAY THERE.

AND WHERE'S IT GOING TO GO? IT'S GOING TO SATURATE INTO THE GROUND.

AND IF IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO A SEPTIC TANK, IT'S THE SEPTIC TANK IS GOING TO FAIL ANYWAY.

I KNOW NEXT, NEXT COUPLE.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS COMING UP.

YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE POSSIBLY 220 PLUS ACRES DOWN ON BABCOCK.

AND THE HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THEY WANT TO OPEN UP 220 ACRES TO PUT IN, HOUSING AND MULTI HOUSING.

IT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN THERE.

I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, WITH ALL THE FLOODING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND ONCE IT'S CONTROLLED AND YOU GUYS CAN DO IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S REALLY IT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

MR. MAYOR, ONE QUESTION.

IS THERE A WAY THAT THE CITY CAN PUT OUT A NOTIFICATION TO RESIDENTS THAT IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO THAT IF THAT PIPE IS CLOSED, IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE CITY'S.

IF THERE'S WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT THAT KIND OF STRUCK ME AS ODD.

WE USED TO CLEAN OUT THOSE CULVERT PIPES SOMEHOW BACK IN THE DAY, IS WHAT HE WAS SAYING.

AND WE STOPPED DOING THAT BECAUSE OF LIABILITY ISSUES.

RIGHT. I WOULD AUTOMATICALLY I WENT STRAIGHT TO THE LIABILITY ISSUES OF ALL THE FLOODING.

RIGHT. SO IS THERE A WAY WE COULD BRING BACK DID WE HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM? AND IF WE DID, IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD BRING THAT BACK WHERE WE COULD CLEAR OUT THOSE CULVERT PIPES AND KIND OF LIKE HELP NAVIGATE THAT THOSE STILL WATERS FLOW THROUGH? SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM IS THAT, YES, MANY YEARS AGO THE CITY WAS DOING THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK WHAT WAS DISCOVERED, AS IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME BY STAFF, IS THAT THE CULVERT PIPE IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER.

SO WE WERE WORKING IN THEIR PROPERTY AND WHEN, ISSUES WOULD OCCUR, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CULVERT PIPE WAS, WAS FAILED TO THE DEGREE THAT IT COMPROMISED THE DRIVEWAY AND THE

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THEN THE CITY BECAME RESPONSIBLE AND TOUCHING THE PIPE FOR FIXING THE DRIVEWAY.

SO MANY, MANY YEARS AGO, I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY, BUT MANY YEARS AGO, THE CITY STOPPED THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS.

AND NOW, ACTUALLY, I KNOW STAFF IS WORKING ON A NEW A NEW PLAN, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE REALLY NEED TO BE ENFORCING WHAT THE HOMEOWNERS RESPONSIBLE TO MAINTAIN, WHICH IS THEIR PIPE AND THEIR THEIR DRIVEWAY CULVERT AREA.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING CURRENT STAFF IS WORKING ON DOING.

IT'S IT'S BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR FOR EVERYONE.

WE KNOW THERE ARE MANY, MANY WORK ORDERS WE'RE STILL WORKING ON BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SUCH AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF RAIN THIS YEAR, AND STAFF IS WORKING VERY HARD TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO CATCH UP ON THE WORK ORDERS, CONTINUE THE SWALE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, CLEAN OUT WHAT THEY CAN.

MR. COOK'S PERSPECTIVE IS A GOOD ONE IN TERMS OF WHEN WE GO IN THERE AND WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THE SWALE MAINTENANCE.

WE DO TRY AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO GET AS MUCH DIRT OUT OF THE WAY.

SO THE FLOW, THAT'S THE POINT TO GET THE FLOW GOING.

SO WE'VE GOT OUR WORK CUT OUT FOR US.

WE ALSO KNOW THAT AS THE CITY HAS GROWN, THERE'S A GREATER NEED FOR MORE EQUIPMENT AND STAFF.

AND WE WERE ACTUALLY WORKING ON A PLAN TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL IN THE NEAR FUTURE BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A GREAT NEED FOR OUR CITY AND WE NEED TO WE NEED TO DO BETTER.

SO IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, WE WE COULDN'T TELL THAT THE PIPE WAS ABOUT TO FAIL WHEN WE SUCKED IT OUT.

WHEN WE SUCKED OUT ALL THE MUCK.

IT'S HARD TO KNOW. IT'S HARD TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FULL.

OFTENTIMES WITH WITH SEDIMENT BUILT UP OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HOLDING UP THE DRIVEWAY, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO ONCE IT'S REMOVED, THERE'S NO IT COMPROMISES THE STRUCTURES.

AND AND THE FACT IS IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IT'S IT'S THE HOMEOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE WE COULD COME TO SOME TYPE OF PLAN, AS YOU'RE SAYING, WORKING ON IT BECAUSE, ULTIMATELY. THE RESULTS ARE MOSQUITO BORNE VIRUSES, RIGHT? THEN YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH FLOODING IS THAT CAUSING, YOU KNOW, ON A LARGER SCALE.

SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SMALL PROJECTS AND PREVENT LARGER PROJECTS FROM HAPPENING.

SO ALL RIGHT, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

DID YOU GUYS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT.

COUNCILMAN OTHER OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS AND MR. VALENTINO PEREZ. THEIR TEAM IS WORKING DILIGENTLY ON CATCHING UP.

MR.. MR. PEREZ COMES FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

BUT BEING HONEST, PUBLIC WORKS NEEDED THE RIGHT LEADERSHIP AND HE BRINGS THAT.

I WENT THERE AND VISITED THE SITE MYSELF THE OTHER DAY, AND I WAS JUST HIGHLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW DILIGENT AND HOW HARD THEY'RE WORKING TO PLAY CATCH UP OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS ON, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE A WHILE AGO.

BUT HERE WE ARE NOW.

STAFF'S DOING THEIR BEST TO CATCH UP.

THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY. THEY'RE COMING UP WITH INNOVATIVE IDEAS.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAIN THING I GET CALLED ABOUT NOW, MAYOR, IS EITHER REPUBLIC SERVICES OR SWELLS OR CULVERTS.

YEAH, THAT'S THE TOP TWO RIGHT NOW.

BUT THEY'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY.

SO IF YOU DO SEE SOMETHING AND YOU'RE NOT SURE YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THEM, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO US, BUT.

WELL, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BACK AND FORTH, BUT YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME DIRECTLY.

KENNY. YES, SIR. KENNY JOHNSON AT PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

ORG, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THE MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX ANY OF US, BUT, WE GET IT OVER TO PUBLIC WORKS, AND SOMETIMES IT'S A, IT'S A LOT OF WORK ORDERS, AND THEY'RE PLAYING CATCH UP.

IT'S A HUGE CITY, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT DONE.

SO I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND SPEAKING TO US.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD ON THE SAME TOPIC, I CAN TELL YOU STAFF IS REALLY, REALLY WORKING HARD.

AND AGAIN, MR. SHERMAN MENTIONED IT. IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE WEATHER, WHAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING THE LAST FEW MONTHS.

I KNOW THERE'S EFFORT AS FAR AS EVEN, TRYING TO, SUB THIS, THIS, PROJECT OUT SEEKING FOR SPECIALIZED COMPANY THAT CAN HELP US OUT.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S SUCH A SPECIALTIES WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE THAT.

WOULD THAT BE CORRECT TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT WOULD HELP US COME IN AND HELP US WITH THIS PROJECT.

SO THERE'S CERTAINLY EFFORT PUTTING FORTH FROM US.

WE'RE TALKING TO STAFF CONSTANTLY BECAUSE WE GET THE PHONE CALLS, WE GET THE EMAILS.

SO WE'RE CALLING AND ASK QUESTIONS.

SO WE'RE ANSWERING CITIZENS.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY AN EFFORT TO ADDRESS THIS, THIS ISSUE, NOT ONLY THE EMAILS BUT WE'RE RESPONDING TO ALL OF THEM.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DRY SEASON, I BELIEVE.

YEAH. NEXT SPEAKER.

MR. JAMES STAYED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THAT NOISE ISSUE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I LIVE AT 1678 DAWES ROAD NORTHEAST IN PALM BAY.

AND ACROSS THE STREET, THERE'S A BAR THAT SEEMS TO LIKE TO PLAY MUSIC STARTING AT 1030 AT NIGHT TO TWO IN THE MORNING, AND

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YOU JUST HEAR THAT BOOM, BOOM, BOOM.

AND I CALLED THE POLICE SEVERAL TIMES.

AND I MEAN, THEY VERY COURTEOUS, BEEN VERY NICE.

THEY GO OUT AND THEY'LL SPEAK TO THEM, OR SOMETIMES THEY'LL CALL ME BACK AND SAY, WELL, IT DOESN'T REGISTER IN A DECIBEL, SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I PROVIDED SOME COPIES OF THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND ON DEFINITIONS ON, WHAT IS IT? PAGE TWO, IT SAYS BECAUSE OF ITS VOLUME LEVEL, DURATION AND CHARACTER AND NOISE DISTURBS, INJURES OR ENDANGERS THE COMFORT, HEALTH, PEACE OR SAFETY OF A REASONABLE PERSON OF ORDINARY SENSIBILITIES.

AND THEN, NUMBER TWO, ANY SOUND PROHIBITED UNDER 9203, WHICH I'M GOING TO GET TO EXEMPT AS PROVIDED 1904 THOSE ARE JUST EXEMPTIONS TO IT.

BUT IT ALSO GOES OR ANY SOUND LEVELS.

SO UNDER 1903 WHICH IS ON PAGE FOUR.

IT SAYS, NOISE DISTURBANCES THAT ARE PROHIBITED.

AND NUMBER ONE, NO PERSON SHALL PRODUCE CAUSE TO BE PRODUCED OR ALLOW TO BE PRODUCED BY ANY MEANS, ANY NOISE WITHIN A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS PLAINLY AUDIBLE AT A DISTANCE OF 75FT OR MORE, MEASURED FROM THE REAL PROPERTY LINE OF THE PROPERTY FROM WHICH THE NOISE IS GENERATED.

BUT THEN THEY HAVE OR EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, WHICH THEY CALL, PLENTY AUDIBLE, WHICH IS THE DEFINITION YOU CAN SEE ON, THE BOTTOM OF PAGE TWO, TOP OF PAGE THREE THAT BASICALLY SAYS, IF YOU CAN HEAR A NOISE AT 75FT WITHOUT ANY AMPLIFICATION, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF THING TO ENHANCE THAT NOISE, IT'S CONSIDERED PLAINLY AUDIBLE.

AND IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHERE THE NOISE IS COMING FROM AND YOU'RE NOT ENHANCING YOUR HEARING TO HEAR THAT NOISE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT THE BOOMINESS, YOU KNOW, 1030 TO 2 I HAVE CALLED THE BAR AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, I CALL IT 1:00 IN THE MORNING, 2:00.

THEY PROBABLY CAN'T HEAR IT BECAUSE THAT GOES TO THEIR ANSWER MACHINE.

BUT I HAVE CALLED IN THE MORNING BECAUSE THEY OPEN AT TEN, AND THE WOMAN, WAS APOLOGETIC AND SAID, OH, I'LL TALK TO HER NIGHT BARTENDER TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO? SHE GOES, THEY GET A LITTLE CRAZY AT NIGHT AND TURN THINGS UP.

BUT THAT DIDN'T HELP.

SO BUT I, YOU KNOW, DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET IN TROUBLE CITED.

I JUST WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT IT COULD BE A VIOLATION.

AND FROM WHAT I READ, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A VIOLATION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BY THE DECIBELS.

IN FACT, ONE OF THE OFFICERS SAID THAT THEIR METERS WON'T PICK UP THE BASS.

IN, WHICH IS TRUE.

AND THERE'S, INFORMATION IN THE BACK WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ, BUT IT JUST SAYS HOW HIGHER FREQUENCIES LOSE THEIR ENERGY FASTER SO THEY DON'T GO THROUGH BY LOW FREQUENCIES LIKE BASS, YOU KNOW, HOLD THEIR ENERGY SO IT PERMEATES, YOU KNOW, BARRIERS AND BLOCK AND ALL THAT STUFF.

THANK YOU SIR. OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM SHERMAN.

1030 TO 2 A.M.

IN THE MORNING. YES, SIR.

CLEARLY, WE NEED TO HAVE A FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH MR. STEED. SIR, I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU COULD SPEAK WITH OUR DEPUTY CHIEF IN THE BACK, STANDING UP BY THE DOOR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT HE'S HAPPY. HE'LL BE HAPPY TO TALK FURTHER WITH YOU.

BECAUSE THAT CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING WE WE NEED TO LOOK AT FOR YOU.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

PLEASE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPUTY CHIEF, SIR.

CARRY ON. CARRY ON.

MR.. STEVE, I MEAN KEITH.

CARRY. OH, KAREN.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

BUT IT'S IT'S BEING HANDLED, RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANKS FOR COMING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BATTEN. PEOPLE.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I APOLOGIZE TO THE COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS FOR MAKING THE LAST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING RUN LONGER.

I ALSO APOLOGIZE TO THE APPLICANT FOR THE IMPACT IT HAD ON HIM.

HOWEVER, OUR CITY CHARTER SAYS WE SHALL HAVE A COUNCIL OF FIVE, ONE MAYOR AND FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

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THE CITY ATTORNEY, PATRICIA SMITH, IS CORRECT.

SECTION 3.083.

A MAJORITY OF THE QUORUM FOR A VALID VOTE.

THE RESULT OF THAT MEANT THAT A VOTE OF TWO OUT OF A COUNCIL OF FIVE WOULD RESULT IN A LAND MASS DENSITY CHANGE. I SEE FAULT IN THAT PROCESS.

THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PROCESS.

MAYBE THERE IS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT DURING THE CHARTER REVIEW, NOT HOW MUCH MONEY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD BE PAID.

A COUNCIL OF FIVE.

YET A LAND MASS PASSES WITH A WITH A VOTE OF TWO.

THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU. NEXT, PAT.

MISS PAT DALPRA.

SAY IT AGAIN, SIR. MISS PAT DALPRA.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND STAFF.

PAT DALPRA, 14 GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST.

I DIDN'T HAVE OR I DIDN'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY LAST TIME TO WISH YOU A HAPPY NEW YEAR.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO.

SAY A PRAYER FOR YOU ALL, BECAUSE I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I AND MANY OTHERS ARE PRAYING FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE LEADERS, AND WOULD LIKE TO SAY A PRAYER FROM COLOSSIANS.

MY PRAYER FOR YOU FOR 2024 THAT YOU MAY, THAT YOU WILL BE FILLED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS WILL IN ALL WISDOM AND SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING.

YOU MAY WALK IN THE MANNER WORTHY OF THE LORD, PLEASING TO ALL, BEING FRUITFUL IN EVERY GOOD WORK, INCREASING IN KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, STRENGTHENED WITH ALL MIGHT ACCORDING TO HIS GLORIOUS POWER, ENDURING EVERYTHING WITH PERSEVERANCE AND PATIENCE, JOYFULLY GIVING THANKS TO THE FATHER.

I PRAY THAT THIS YEAR FOR ALL CITIZENS OF PALM BAY WOULD BE PROSPEROUS YEAR, A PEACEFUL YEAR IN THE MIDST OF CHAOS AND ALL THAT'S GOING ON AROUND US, AND ALSO FOR A RETURN TO MANY TO THE LORD AND REALIZE THAT HE'S IN CONTROL.

I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE LIKE THE SONS OF ISSACHAR, WHO WERE MEN WHO UNDERSTOOD THE TIMES, HAD WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT, AND KNEW WHAT TO DO.

AMEN. AND WE CELEBRATED MARTIN LUTHER KING THE OTHER DAY AND HIS ONE OF HIS STATEMENTS, THE ULTIMATE MEASURE OF A MAN IS NOT WHERE HE STANDS IN MOMENTS OF COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE, BUT WHERE HE STANDS AT TIMES OF CHALLENGE AND CONTROVERSY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER, ESPECIALLY OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, TO GET THAT FIXED BEFORE WE INCREASE AND EXPLODE IN MORE GROWTH.

I ALSO WANT TO, ON THE OTHER HAND, WITH SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY SPOKE ALREADY ON THE FLOODING.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT MORE PROACTIVE IN ESPECIALLY INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE WHO ARE BUILDING ON THEIR LOTS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE WATER PROBLEM IS COMING FROM.

AND I MENTIONED THIS ONCE BEFORE, WE HAVE TOO MUCH OF THIS.

SO I HAVE A BUILDER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAS ALREADY CREATED A LAKE IN THE LOT THAT I BOUGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

THE NEIGHBOR ALSO, I'M CONCERNED THAT THEIR THEIR POOL IS GOING TO END UP BEING LIFTED BECAUSE OF ALL THE WATER.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE APPROACH THESE BUILDERS.

NUMBER ONE, THE DRAINAGE SHOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF.

NUMBER TWO, THE GRADING SHOULD BE DONE BEFORE ALL THE OTHER BUILDING.

THREE. KEEP TRACK OF THESE BUILDERS LIKE, MORE THAN EVERY SIX MONTHS.

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

THEY'RE NOT KEEPING UP.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDER MORE RESPONSIBLE AND MORE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE NEIGHBORS AROUND IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

MAYOR, MAY I ADD.

YEAH. CARRY ON. THIS IS MORE, FOR FOR STAFF, I THINK, TO WHAT MISS DUPRAS JUST MENTIONED.

I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US.

I KNOW WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE WORKFORCE, IS IS VERY SHORT.

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MORE SO THE SCATTERED LAB AND TO TO HER POINT, THERE'S TRULY AN OPPORTUNITY, WHERE THESE BUILDERS ARE BUILDING AND NOT REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO TO THAT ASPECT, HOW THEY JUST LOAD OF DIRT JUST RIGHT ON OVER THE, THE SWELL AND AND THIS I'VE SEEN IT, I'VE, I'VE DRIVEN THE CITY AND I'VE SEEN THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO IT COULD BE MAYBE A CLOSE CLOSER COMMUNICATION WITHIN THOSE TWO DEPARTMENT AND RELATE THAT MESSAGE TO, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT WHERE WE CAN PROBABLY HOLD, THESE BUILDERS ACCOUNTABLE.

YEAH. BUILDING THAT CAN IMPROVE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. SIR.

THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'RE NOW ON, DOES THAT CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR. OKAY, SO WE'RE ON CONSENT.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA]

SO MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER FOUR AND NUMBER EIGHT.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. I.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

MADAM SMITH RESOLUTION 2020 4-02A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 35, ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH.

IS THAT 2024 RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OF PASSING RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RESOLUTION 2020 403, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 20 2336, ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING, AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS THE FIRST QUARTER BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2324.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I.

WAS THAT AN EYE? YES, MA'AM.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH ZERO THREE, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 15, BLOCK 859, PORT MALABAR.

UNIT 17.

ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15, PAGE 108 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

SANABRIA. STEPHANIE.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

YEAH, WE'RE JUST, TRYING TO VACATE, TEN FOOT OF THE 20 FOOT, EASEMENT SO WE CAN PUT A SHED IN THE BACKYARD.

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OKAY. COUNSELOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I HI.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

CONGRATULATIONS. GO BUILD YOUR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO.

OH, MADAM, AS YOU WERE, MADAM SMITH.

YES, SIR. WAS I? YEAH. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS THREE AND FOUR.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.03. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

HI MELANIE STORM.

I'M WITH PULTE HOMES FOR 901 VINELAND ROAD.

I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE AS WE'VE BEEN TO THE BOARD A FEW TIMES FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS IS THE FINAL PLOT HEARING.

SO THAT WE COULD PLOT OUT THE LOTS FOR THE TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU OR THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? NO. OKAY.

THANK YOU. STAND BY.

MA'AM, THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS.

PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS THREE FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.

NO NO, NO.

I THOUGHT I SAW SOMEONE THAT MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN THE LIPSCOME.

DID SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE TALK TO ME ABOUT THE LIPSCOME PROJECT ON ROBERT J.

CONLON? OR WAS IT ROBERT J.

CONLON? DOES AND DIDN'T FILL OUT A SPEAKER CARD.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE THE INDIVIDUALS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BECAUSE THEY PULLED ME ASIDE OR THEY SHARED THAT.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER THREE? REGARDING THIS PROJECT.

OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENT.

MAYOR, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

ORDINANCE 2020 4-04, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS BRAMBLEWOOD TOWNHOMES AND PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO BRAMBLEWOOD CIRCLE IN THE VICINITY, SOUTH OF BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MISS SMITH.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

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MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER.

I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF LACY LYONS ROSINKA IN ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF INNOVATIVE NATIONWIDE BUILDERS, INC.

I AND B FOR SHORT.

THEY ARE THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER AND THEY ARE ALSO THE CONTRACT PURCHASER.

IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WITH ME IS REINER RICHTER WITH INB.

HE'S HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AS THE PURCHASER DEVELOPER.

ALSO THE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, KYLE COSBY WITH KIMLEY-HORN, IS HERE, AND HE'LL BE DOING PART OF THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL.

I WANT TO START A LITTLE BIT WITH THE HISTORY OF THIS SITE.

THIS SITE IS 20, A LITTLE OVER 20 ACRES.

IT HAD PUD ZONING ASSIGNED TO IT IN 2006.

AT THE SAME TIME IT HAD A PLAT APPROVED, BUT THAT PLAT WAS NEVER RECORDED AND NEVER BUILT.

SOMEHOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BUILT.

I PRESUME THERE WAS A PERFORMANCE BOND AT SOME POINT.

BUT WE HAVE ROADS, WE HAVE PIPES, WE HAVE NO RESIDENCES.

AND THIS IS DESIGNED TO BE RESIDENCES.

IN FACT, IT'S HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE.

AND THE THE, THE DENSITY WAS A LITTLE OVER FOUR AND A HALF ACRES PER UNIT OF THE TIME.

IT WAS APPROVED IN 2006.

OBVIOUSLY, NOTHING'S BEEN BUILT.

IT'S BEEN VACANT.

IT'S A VERY LONG ROAD.

I ASKED HOW LONG IT WAS BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUN TO GO OUT AND SEE HOW FAST MY CAR COULD GO, BUT THEY TOLD ME NOT TO DO THAT.

BUT IT DOES. IT'S A IT'S A BIG, LONG ROAD.

IT'S NOT GATED.

IT'S AVAILABLE TO TRANSIENTS.

AND THERE'S ALSO A BIG, BURM FROM BRAMBLEWOOD.

SO THERE'S SOME VISIBILITY ISSUE INTO THE SITE.

SO THIS IS TIME FOR IT TO BE BUILT.

IT HAS BEEN UNDEVELOPED FOR 18 YEARS.

THE 2006 PLAT REFLECTS 92 UNITS.

THE PROJECT WAS A ONE STORY PROJECT WITH ONE CAR GARAGE AND LIVING SPACE OF ABOUT 1400 SQUARE FEET.

THAT IS NO LONGER DESIRABLE TO BE BUILT IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THERE'S AN ENTIRE 42 PAGE SET OF PLANS THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THIS PROJECT FOR SCHEMATICS, SO IT'S READY TO BE BUILT IF THIS IS APPROVED.

DR. HORTON IS GOING TO BE THE BUILDER IF THIS IS APPROVED TONIGHT.

THIS HAS, THIS PROJECT.

AND I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN WE'VE SEEN LOTS OF THIS.

I'VE BEEN HERE IN SEVERAL OF THE PROJECT IS PART OF THAT LARGE BAYSIDE CENTER, BAYSIDE LAKES COMMERCIAL CENTER, PHASES ONE THROUGH FOUR.

IT'S SEVERAL HUNDRED ACRES.

THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET.

IT'S IT'S PORTION THAT'S IN THE PINK, WHICH IS IN YOUR PACKET.

THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL IS 126 UNITS, FOR A DENSITY OF 6.3 UNITS PER ACRE.

THIS WAS APPROVED BY BAYSIDE LAKES.

COMMERCIAL PO BECAUSE IT COMES UNDER ALL OF THEIR DECLARATION OF COVENANTS, AND IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE MASTER PO.

THEY DO LOOK AT THE ELEVATIONS AND THE RENDERINGS, AND THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DENY IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

THE APPROVAL BEFORE YOU WILL PROVIDE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THERE ARE FEE SIMPLE TITLE OWNERSHIP.

THERE WILL BE 126 UNITS.

EACH WILL HAVE A ONE CAR GARAGE WITH THE ABILITY WITH TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE GARAGE OR TWO PARKING SPACES IN THE DRIVEWAY.

SOME OF THE DRIVEWAYS ARE ACTUALLY LONGER, SO THERE COULD EVEN BE FOUR CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

THERE ARE THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH.

THEY HAVE A LARGER LIVING AREA, 1670 THREE SQUARE FEET, AND THEY ARE TWO STORY TO ALLOW FOR LARGER LIVING AREA.

THIS DOES PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR HOME OWNERSHIP FOR THOSE THAT WANT SMALLER HOMES WITHOUT YARD MAINTENANCE, ALL THE YARD MAINTENANCE WILL BE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

KYLE COSBY WILL TALK IN DETAIL ABOUT THE NEW PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

BECAUSE THIS WAS SUCH AN OLD PROCESS.

FROM 2006, THE PDP AND FDP WERE COMBINED TOGETHER TO COME BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL.

THERE IS A GOOD AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE.

THE PONDS ALREADY THERE AS WELL AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, AND IT HAS 49.6% PERVIOUS, WHICH IS A LOT FOR A SUBDIVISION.

THE, PERTINENT CODE SECTION FOR A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS 185 .067, WHICH PROVIDES FOR THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.

IT HAS THE REQUIRED EXHIBITS.

IT REQUIRES THE DEED RESTRICTIONS WHICH ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

AND IT DOES TALK ABOUT THE PROCEDURE GOING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CHANGE OR DENIAL OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

YOU DO NOT HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM PNC BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

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I WAS NOT THERE.

THEY MOVED TO APPROVE.

IT WAS DENIED BY 4 TO 3, AND THERE WAS NO FURTHER RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.

SO THERE WAS NO RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TO YOU? THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, SAYS IT MEETS THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALMOST THIS IS ALMOST A TECHNICAL SITE PLAN REVIEW.

IT'S A CHANGE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE OF UNITS.

THERE ARE TWO TOWNHOME PROJECTS WITH SIMILAR DENSITY PLAYERS CLUB, WHICH IS TO THE WEST, AND FAIRWAY CROSSINGS.

PLAYERS CLUB IS 6.7 UNITS PER ACRE FOR A TOWNHOME PROJECT, AND FAIRWAY CROSSINGS IS 5.5 UNITS PER ACRE.

THERE IS A TRAFFIC REPORT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, AND THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY CITY STAFF.

AND, MR. COSBY, THE ENGINEER, WILL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT THE THE TRAFFIC REPORT DOES SAY THIS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, WHICH IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL, WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF YOUR STREETS. PLEASE SETTLE DOWN.

THANK YOU. THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS, WHICH APPARENTLY HAVE NOT READ THE PACKET OR THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WERE VERY EVIDENT WHEN THEY HAD THE COMMUNITY MEETING BACK IN JUNE AND ALSO AT PNC.

ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT CAME UP IS PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING, AND THESE PEOPLE AREN'T LIVING IN THE SUBDIVISION.

THIS IS A BUYER'S DECISION.

IF THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE.

THERE ARE DEED RESTRICTIONS WHICH PROHIBIT PARKING ON THE STREETS AND WHICH PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT THERE IS THREE PARKING SPACES PER EACH UNIT MINIMUM THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH, AND THEN THERE ARE NINE PARKING SPACES IN THE REC AREA.

LAWN CARE TRUCKS WAS A CONCERN THAT WAS RAISED.

AGAIN, THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

THE LAWNS.

AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS NO DEFICIENCIES.

IF THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, IF JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE BUILT ON HERE, THE TRAFFIC THAT COULD BE GENERATED WOULD BE ADDITIONAL 250 TRIPS PER DAY.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S AROUND IT, 750 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY OF 116 HOUSES THAT COULD BE BUILT HERE ON SINGLE FAMILY, IF THEY PLATTED IT, IT WOULD BE MORE AN INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.

THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHARACTER AGAIN.

I'M SURE THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU THE POWERPOINT IT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

IF NOT, THIS TOWNHOME RENDERING DOES NOT LOOK DIFFERENT THAN UNDER OTHER TOWNHOME RENDERINGS.

IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE DESIGN.

IT'S CONCRETE BLOCK.

IT'S VERY STABLE. IT'S VERY STURDY.

ALSO, THE MASTER PO HAS LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID IT IS APPROVED.

AS TO SCHOOLS, THERE WAS MANY PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT SCHOOL CAPACITY.

THERE WAS A SCHOOL CAPACITY DETERMINATION LETTER PROVIDED TO CITY STAFF, AND IT SAYS THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR THE TOTAL PROJECTED STUDENT MEMBERSHIP TO ACCOMMODATE THE BRAMBLEWOOD TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.

THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THIS WAS LOOKED AT IN A VACUUM, BUT AS YOU ALL KNOW, THESE SCHOOL CAPACITY DETERMINATIONS TAKE INTO EFFECT EVERYTHING THAT'S COME BEFORE THE SCHOOL BOARD. SO THEY LOOK AT EVERY OTHER SCHOOL CAPACITY, DETERMINATION.

THEY'VE LETTERED THAT THEY'VE ISSUED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WILL INDEED NOT OVER CAPACITY ANY OF THE THESE SCHOOLS.

THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT AGAIN, THE STYLE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE MASTER PO.

BACK TO THE CHARACTER.

THIS IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP.

IT'S NOT DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

IT'S NOT RENTAL.

IT IS TOWNHOMES OWNED BY THE INDIVIDUALS.

I DO HAVE A SMALL PACKET TO PROVIDE TO YOU, AND I'LL LEAVE ONE UP HERE FOR THE RESIDENTS TO REVIEW AS WELL, JUST TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF THE AREA, IN CASE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT. I WAS NOT, SO I PUT THIS TOGETHER.

AND JUST HAND THEM TO ME.

THANK YOU. SO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE OF THE PACKET, IT'S JUST AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.

IT SHOWS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

IT SHOWS THE COMMUNITY CENTER TO THE NORTH, WHICH PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED PEOPLE WOULD PARK THERE BECAUSE THERE WASN'T GOING TO BE ENOUGH PARKING.

AGAIN, THERE'S GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT PARKING AND BRAMBLEWOOD.

THE PLAYERS CLUB IS TO THE WEST.

THOSE ARE TOWNHOMES.

MONTEREY COVE AND BROOKSIDE ARE TO THE SOUTH.

THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SOME LOTS AS SMALL AS 0.15 ACRE.

THE SECOND PAGE IS A GOOGLE MAP OF THE ENTRANCE TO BRAMBLEWOOD TO SHOW WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE THE INTEREST, THEY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY HAVE SIDEWALKS, THEY HAVE THE RIP

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AND YOU DO SEE THE TREES AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE BURM TO SHOW THAT IT'S JUST A VACANT PIECE OF LAND.

THE THIRD PAGE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST, MAGNOLIA PARK, AND THAT SHOWS THE OTHER SIDE.

IT'S A LARGE STREET WITH MEDIANS IN THE MIDDLE.

THE MAGNOLIA PARK IS GATED.

THE NEXT PAGE IS FROM YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS I MENTIONED AND AS HIGHLIGHTED, THIS IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND USE WITH A PUD ZONING.

HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES, RECREATIONAL AND INSTITUTIONAL USES.

IT COULD HAVE UP TO 20 DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE ONE ABOVE IT, MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS TEN UNITS THE ACRE.

IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THAT WOULD INDICATE THAT HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD HAVE AN AVERAGE DENSITY OF TEN AND 20.

HOWEVER, THIS IS CLOSER TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AT FIVE DWELLING UNITS TO THE ACRE.

THE NEXT PAGE IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OBJECTIVE 1-3.

FUTURE LAND USE. 1.3 A SAYS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS AND THE CITY IS, TO MAINTAIN REGULATIONS AND THE LDC TO ACCOMMODATE A WIDE RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES AND VARYING DENSITIES AND CONFORMANCE WITH THIS PLAN.

AGAIN, A TOWNHOME IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF HOUSING TYPE THAT'S DESIRABLE BY THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MAINTAIN THEIR LAND AND WANT SMALLER LAND.

THE NEXT PAGE IS FROM THE MINUTES OF MARCH 16TH OF 2006, WHICH WAS, I BELIEVE, THE FIRST READING OF THE PUD, AND THE ISSUE OF AN EXIT ONTO BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD WAS RAISED BACK IN 2006.

THAT WAS ALSO RAISED BY THE RESIDENTS ASKING FOR THAT EXIT, AND IT WAS STATED, I BELIEVE MR. FELDMAN WAS ON. MR. FELDMAN WAS STAFF AT THE TIME HERE.

I THINK HE MAY HAVE BEEN THE CITY MANAGER BACK IN 2006.

I MEAN, HE SAID THE ISSUE OF A DRIVEWAY WAS THE PROXIMITY OF THE DRIVEWAY TO THE EXISTING INGRESS EGRESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT FROM BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

SO HE SAID THE SUBJECT DEVELOPMENT BRAMBLEWOOD WOULD HAVE TO FEED ONTO BRAMBLEWOOD CIRCLE.

SO THAT'S REALLY NOT AN OPTION TO HAVE AN EXIT ONTO BRAMBLEWOOD.

NOT TO MENTION THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY BUILT.

THERE'S BEEN CONCERN ABOUT DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES.

AGAIN, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TOWNHOMES.

THEY'RE NOT USED FOR APPRAISAL PURPOSES.

TOGETHER. THEY WON'T DEVALUE ANYONE'S PROPERTY.

I DID PRINT FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS WEBSITE A WHAT HAD BEEN SOLD THIS YEAR IN 2023 OR EXCUSE ME, 2023 LAST YEAR.

OF A PLAYER'S CLUB TOWNHOME AND THE SALE.

THERE WAS 310,000.

THESE PRICES WILL START AT 330,000, WITH UPGRADES AND LARGER LOTS BEING MORE EXPENSIVE.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA THAT THIS IS NOT GOING TO DEVALUE THE PLAYERS CLUB OR THE OTHER TOWNHOMES, AND I DID WANT TO SHOW ON THE NEXT PAGE THAT ONE THAT SOLD IT SOLD TO THE DE GEORGES OCTOBER OF 2023 FOR 310.

IT HAD A BASE AREA OF 1500FT².

THESE UNITS WILL BE LARGER THAN THAT.

ALSO THIS PROPERTY IS VACANT.

CITY IS NOT GETTING ANY TAX REVENUE FROM IT.

I'VE PRINTED THE TAX BILL FROM THE GEORGE'S PROPERTY TO SHOW THAT CITY OF PALM BAY WILL INDEED GET $1,400 FROM THESE UNITS, WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL AS OPPOSED TO JUST HAVING VACANT LAND.

AND THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL GET QUITE A BIT OF MONEY FROM THESE PROPERTIES WHEN THEY'RE DEVELOPED, NOT TO MENTION IMPACT FEES.

THE NEXT PAGE IS JUST TO SHOW YOU FAIRWAY CROSSINGS.

THESE ARE ALSO SELLING AT, YOU KNOW, TWO 9315 RANGE.

FAIRWAY CROSSINGS ALSO HAS ONE CAR GARAGES WITH PARKING BEHIND IT.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT SOMETHING UNUSUAL.

ALSO, THE NEXT PAGE IS THE PROJECT TRACKER THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THEY ARE SERIOUS, THEY HAVE A PLAN.

AGAIN, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

FINALLY, IN YOUR PACKET IS THE PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS ELEMENT.

I JUST LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO USE THEIR PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT'S REASONABLE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING TO DO.

THEY ARE ASKING FOR AN INCREASE IN THE UNITS, BUT THE DENSITY PER UNIT IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR WITH THE OTHER TOWNHOME PROJECTS IN THE AREA.

WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.

AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME, MISTER KYLE COSBY, IT WILL COME UP TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL PLAN ITSELF.

SO JUST TO RECAP YOU, YOU ALREADY ARE AUTHORIZED FOR 92 HOMES.

YES, SIR. AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR 126.

SO 30, 34 ADDITIONAL HOMES.

YES. WHY JUST NOT CONSTRUCT THE 92 HOMES? IT WON'T BE BUILT.

OKAY. D.R. HORTON WILL NOT BUILD IT.

AND INNOVATIVE, EMB WILL NOT PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.

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RIGHT. AND SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S NOT FEASIBLE, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY THERE.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IS IT NOT FEASIBLE IF IT'S ALREADY COST OF THE PROPERTY INCLUDES THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THE COST TO BUY IT TO BUILD THE HOMES IS MUCH GREATER BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY IN.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM.

YEAH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK, BUT I ALSO HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF, ON THE SURROUNDING TOWNHOMES.

I KNOW ONE OF THE MENTIONED ONES IS ABOUT 88 TOWNHOMES, I BELIEVE, BUT I WASN'T SURE ABOUT THE OTHER ON NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES BECAUSE ME ME PERSONALLY, TOWNHOMES ARE HOME OWNERSHIP.

YOU KNOW, I'M WITH HOME OWNERSHIP REGARDLESS, THEY'RE BECOMING MORE POPULAR.

BUT WITH THAT AREA DEVELOPING AS QUICK AS IT IS, I JUST WANT US TO BE CAREFUL AND I WANT US TO BE COMPATIBLE.

BUT I REMEMBER WE HAD APPROVED 88 TOWNHOMES.

I WAS TRYING TO LOOK FOR IT WHILE WHILE WE WERE GOING OVER, BUT MAY HAVE BEEN THE LIPSCOMB ONE YOU JUST APPROVED.

OSMOSIS. YEAH. OSMOSIS.

YEAH. AND THAT WAS 88.

CORRECT. DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK. IT WAS OVER A HUNDRED.

IS THAT CORRECT? I HAVE 288 TOWNHOMES, 35 SINGLE FAMILY.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

OKAY. SO THAT'S THE MAIN THING.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE COMPATIBILITY, HOME OWNERSHIP WISE.

I THINK IT'S COMPATIBLE, BUT IT'S THE NUMBER MAYOR, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS I HAD CONCERNS WITH.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKED. I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME THING YOU ASKED ON WHY NOT THE 92 INSTEAD OF THE 126.

THE FAIRWAY CROSSINGS AND THE PLAYERS CLUB ARE ONLY TEN ACRE PROJECTS, SO THAT.

BUT THE DENSITY PER THE AVERAGE DENSITY PER UNIT IS VERY SIMILAR 6.7 FOR ONE AND 5.5 FOR THE OTHER.

WE'RE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE AT 6.3, SO WE'RE SAME DENSITY AS THE OTHER TOWNHOME PROJECTS.

AND THEN THE ISSUE BECOMES THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WHICH AGAIN THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS THERE'S NO DECREASE IN LEVEL OF SERVICE.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

ANY QUESTIONS? IT'S, I SHARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME SENTIMENT, WITH YOU, MAYOR.

AND BOTH, I ACTUALLY LIVE IN FERRY CROSSINGS JUST FOR REFERENCE POINT AND JUST WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.

I'VE SEEN THE DEVELOPMENT, 2006.

THEY STOPPED WITH THE VILLAS AND BACK IN ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO, THEY CONSTRUCT THE REST OF THEM.

BUT THE LAYOUT AND THE I THINK THE, THE DYNAMIC THERE IS A BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S A NICE, MARRIAGE OF, OF SINGLE FAMILY AND, AND THOSE VILLAS AND THE WAY THEY BUILD, I THINK THEY BUILD VERY STRATEGICALLY TO FIT PURPLE PURPOSELY FIT, THAT, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, THE ARGUMENT OF COST.

AND I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND THE PRICE OF MATERIAL INFLATION AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

BUT THE REALITY OF THE MATTER IS YOU WOULD WHAT WHAT DEVELOPER DOES IS ADJUST YOUR PRICES TO MATCH WHAT THE COST IS.

THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.

YOU MATCH WHAT YOU PAY AND YOU, YOU INCLUDE YOUR, YOUR YOUR COSTS IN THE OVERALL BOTTOM LINE TO MAKE IT WORK.

SO TO ME, THE FEASIBILITY BASED ON COST ONLY TO ME IT'S NOT STRONG ENOUGH, I MEAN, UNDERSTANDING, I HAVE AN IDEA, TO SOME DEGREE, I'M NOT.

I'M NOT NO EXPERT, BUT THE COST.

WE WANT 3003 I MEAN 330,000 STARTING POINT, I THINK I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD ENOUGH PRICING POINT TO THAT WOULD COVER THE, THE ADDITIONAL COST.

THE ARGUMENT OF, OF COST TO ME, 92 A UNIT ON THAT PROPERTY, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS APPROVED TO FOR I THINK THAT I THINK THE DEVELOPER SHOULD IF THERE'S A WILLINGNESS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, SHOULD THIS APPROVE AT 92 UNIT, THE NUMBERS SHOULD SHOULD MATCH AT THE END. WELL, IT'S 92 THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2006.

WE'RE ASKING FOR 126.

AND COST IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.

IT WAS AN EXPLANATION.

THE ARGUMENT IS IT IS MORE CONSISTENT AT 6.3 DENSITY UNITS PER ACRE, MORE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND MORE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR CODE TO HAVE THE MORE UNITS. AND SO IT'S JUST AN EXPLANATION.

IT'S THAT 4.9 NOW, 6.3 IS BETWEEN WHAT THE OTHER UNITS HAVE AND WHAT YOUR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES FOR.

IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES FOR 20 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

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ESSENTIALLY YOU'VE GOT CONSERVATION TO THE I GET MY DIRECTIONS CHANGED TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH OR CONSERVATION.

THIS IS ITS OWN LITTLE ENCLAVE WITH A COMMUNITY CENTER BELOW IT.

SO IT'S IT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE MY CLIENT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK THEY CAN BUILD.

THAT'S WHAT THEY CAN BUILD BASED UPON THE COST.

THAT WAS AN EXPLANATION.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PUD STANDARDS AND YOUR COMP PLAN, THE 6.3 UNITS, THE ACRE FITS BOTH AND MAKES SENSE.

AND WE'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT SINCE 2006.

SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A REASON.

I MEAN, THERE'S SOME CASE LAW OUT THERE THAT SAYS THAT'S A REASON ALONE BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE BUILT, NOTHING'S BEEN BUILT, IT'S BEEN UNDEVELOPED OR EVERYTHING AROUND HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. IT MAKES SENSE.

SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME IN AND DEVELOP IT, INCREASE YOUR TAX BASIS, GIVE YOU IMPACT FEES, AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING FOR YOUR CITIZENS.

THAT'S THE REASON TO APPROVE IT.

IT'S NOT THE COST.

I WAS JUST GIVING YOU AN EXPLANATION.

IT WON'T BE BUILT IF IT'S NOT APPROVED.

THESE PEOPLE WILL NOT BUILD IT.

MR.. I'M ALL FOR IT.

I'M ALL FOR. I JUST WANTED TO KNOW.

I'M ALL FOR THIS PARCEL TO BE DEVELOPED, BUT WE GOT TO DEVELOP IT THE RIGHT WAY.

IF YOU'RE EVER EXPERIENCED 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON AT THAT INTERSECTION OF THE WALGREENS.

SO WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT SO MUCH WHAT THIS PARCEL LOOKED AT.

BASE THAT AS A COMMUNITY, I LIVED THERE.

I DRIVE IT EVERY DAY, TWICE, YOU KNOW, TWICE ON SUNDAY.

BUT CERTAINLY WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.

WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC FLOW, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL BEING OUT, AND IT'S.

IT'S MADNESS.

DEPUTY MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? AND I DON'T I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, SO I CAN ONLY READ THE REPORTS.

AND THEY SAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC WITH THESE ADDITIONAL UNITS.

OKAY. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER, PLEASE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE WATER.

I HAVE TO HAVE WATER.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? YES, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

CARRY ON SIR. MY QUESTION IS, HOW MANY, TOWNHOMES THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUILD PER ACRE? 6.3. AND THAT WAS BASED ON THIS NEW ONE 120 TOWNHOMES OR THE 92.

THAT'S ON 126.

THE 92 WAS 4.6.

SO THE 92 WAS 4.6 PER ACRE.

YES, SIR. AND THE REASON WHY YOU WENT UP TO 126 IS BECAUSE.

BECAUSE OF THE FEASIBILITY OF THE COSTS OF THE COSTS.

OKAY. BECAUSE THE COST WENT UP SINCE, YOU STARTED THIS PROJECT SINCE 2006, 2006, OF COURSE.

ALSO, DID YOU GET A TRAFFIC STUDY OR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS DONE FOR THAT AREA? YES, SIR.

WE DID. IT'S IN THE PACKET, AND KYLE COSBY IS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT IT.

IT SAYS THERE WILL BE NO DECREASE IN LEVELS OF SERVICE FROM THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS.

THIS WAS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS THERE WAS NO OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED, NO TURN LANES NEEDED, AND THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A DECREASE IN LEVELS OF SERVICE DUE TO THE INCREASE IN TRIPS. SO NO TURN LANES, NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS, NO ADDITIONAL LANES NEEDED FOR THAT PROJECT.

CORRECT, SIR. AND YOUR STAFF APPROVED THE TRAFFIC REPORT? ANTHROPIC METHODOLOGY.

SO 126 TOWNHOMES AND IT WON'T AFFECT THE TRAFFIC.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING THERE.

THEY'RE SAYING THERE'LL BE NO CREASE IN LEVELS OF SERVICE.

THERE'LL BE NO ADDITIONAL DELAYS FROM THAT TRAFFIC.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

DID YOU WANT TO CONTINUE, MA'AM, OR DID YOU? OKAY, MISS COSBY, YOU STILL HAVE SOME MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

CARRY ON, SIR KYLE COSBY, CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT WITH KIMLEY-HORN ASSOCIATES.

MY TRAFFIC ENGINEER WAS UNABLE TO MAKE IT, SO I'LL PUT MY TRAFFIC HAT ON FOR THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, KIM, FOR THE PRESENTATION YOU GAVE.

YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

I JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE ON A COUPLE OF POINTS.

AGAIN, THE PROJECT HISTORY.

THIS PROJECT HAD APPROVED PRELIMINARY PLAT AT THE 92 TOWNHOME UNITS.

IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN.

SO OUR APPROACH TO THE DESIGN WAS TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT OF THE INTENT.

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WE DON'T. WE WANT TO MESS WITH THE ROADS.

WE DON'T RECONFIGURE ANYTHING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, LAKES ARE INSTALLED.

SO OUR APPROACH IS TRYING TO KEEP CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.

THAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU GUYS.

SO I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY TOUCH OVER THE FDP.

WHICH IS THIS PLAN? RIGHT HERE. NICE COLORFUL ONE.

AND I'LL KEEP THESE ON THE DESK.

SO WHEN I TRY TO STAY ON THE MIC.

SORRY, I'LL KEEP THESE ON THE DESK.

SO WHEN THE PUBLIC COME UP, THEY CAN LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S FINE. SO, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS ZONED HIGH RESIDENTIAL.

HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

TYPICALLY IT HAS A LOT MORE IMPERVIOUS OR IMPERVIOUS IS ONLY 50.4%.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE THAN A TYPICAL HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

TO THE SOUTH IS A WETLAND.

AND YOU CAN SEE BY THAT INDICATION BY THE CIRCLE TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THE SITE.

WE ARE GOING TO PRESERVE THAT WETLAND AND CREATE A, PRESERVE TRACK IN UPLAND BUFFER.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE UNTOUCHED VEGETATION AND WETLAND.

WE ALSO HAVE OPEN SPACE TRACK THREE, WHICH PROVIDES A LARGE SEPARATION FROM THE TOWNHOME UNITS TO THEIR AMENITY CENTER.

I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO VIEW FROM THE PARKING LOT, THE TOWNHOME PROJECT.

WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THEM WITH A LANDSCAPED AREA TO THE BACK.

LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THE LAKES ARE ALREADY EXCAVATED.

SO WE'RE KEEPING CONSISTENT WITH THE ORIGINAL LAYOUTS.

LET'S SEE HERE.

AND THEN SOMETHING I REALLY WANTED TO JUST HONE IN ON, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING IN THE PNC, MEETING.

IS THAT THE PARKING? SO THE PARKING REQUIRED.

WE MEET THE PARKING REQUIRED PER CODE.

BUT WE ACTUALLY EXCEED IT BY 135, SPACES.

AND THAT'S THAT'S THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU CAN HAVE THE ONE CAR GARAGE AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, THE 16 FOOT DRIVEWAY.

SO THERE'S THREE CARS PER UNIT, AND THEN WE HAVE NINE SPACES BY THE, IN THE, IN THE REC AREA WHERE THERE'S THE MAIL KIOSK, AND THEN WE HAVE A, A DOCK THAT'S GOING TO BE A FISHING DOCK TO MONETIZE THAT LAKE, TO ALLOW THE GUESTS TO GO OUT THERE.

FISH. I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE PUBLIC.

WE HAD THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING, WHICH IS REQUIRED, AND THEN WE HAD A CALL TO GO OVER THEIR CONCERNS.

THEY WROTE OUT A NICE, NEAT LETTER OF THEIR CONCERNS, AND WE WENT ON THE CALL AND TALKED ABOUT THOSE THOSE FIVE CONCERNS, THOSE FIVE CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD WERE TIED TO THE TOWNHOMES, THE ARCHITECTURAL THEY WANTED THE FACADES CHANGED TO STUCCO.

THEY WANTED TO CHANGE THE ENTRANCE OF THE SIGNAGE DESIGN.

THEY WANTED TO CHANGE. ORIGINALLY WE HAD A DOG PARK SHOWN IN THE REC AREA.

THEY WANTED TO CHANGE TO A PEDESTRIAN PARK BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE DOGS BARKING.

WE THEY WANTED TO MAKE THE ROOF STEEPER, TO KIND OF CONFORM TO THE LAYOUT OF THE COMMUNITY, BAYSIDE LAKES.

AND THEN THEY WANTED TO DECREASE THE TOWNHOMES, OBVIOUSLY, FROM THE ONE 2692 WE WE CHANGED ALL THOSE DESIGNS CRITERIA.

BESIDES THE DENSITY, WE CONFORMED, WE WERE BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS, THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

AND THEN, WE JUST WEREN'T GOING TO BUDGE ON THE DENSITY.

AND THERE IS SOME REASON TO THAT AS WELL.

I MEAN, THE CONSTRUCTABILITY, YES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, BUT IT'S ABANDONED.

IT'S BEEN CUT OFF, THE WATER'S BEEN CUT OFF.

THE SEWER HAS BEEN SITTING THERE FOR 18 YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF TESTING TO BE DONE.

THERE MIGHT BE DEMO INVOLVED WITH THE SEWER AND WATER MAIN IF THEY COME BACK DEFICIENT.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF, DEMO WORK ON TOP OF THE PURCHASE PRICE.

WHEN YOU HAVE A THE LANDOWNER THINKING THAT THIS IS A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL THAT CAN BE SOLD FOR 20 UNITS PER ACRE, SO YOU GOT THE LANDOWNER THAT'S GOING TO SELL IT THAT THINKS THEY CAN BE SOLD FOR A LOT HIGHER PRICE THAN WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE WORTH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE CONSTRUCTION ASPECT OF IT.

SO THAT KIND OF JUSTIFIES THE PRICE.

AND THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE PRICING AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE 126.

I'LL DIVE NOW INTO THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A BIG ITEM.

WELL, CAN CAN WE JUST SINCE YOU'RE ON THIS TOPIC.

YES. YEAH. WHERE YOU HAD FIVE ISSUES.

YES. AND OF THE FIVE, YOU HIT EACH AND EVERY ONE.

YEP. BUT YOU WOULDN'T TOUCH THE DENSITY WAS THERE.

AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.

WITH THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.

FIRST THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

YES. YEAH. WHAT I'M HEARING WITH THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY, THEY LIST THE FIVE.

AND YOU TACKLE THE FOUR OF THE FIVE.

BUT THE FIFTH ONE, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN COMPROMISE ANYWHERE.

YEAH. WAS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY OR WAS THERE AN OPTION AFFORDED TO THE RESIDENTS.

OKAY. MAYBE WE WON'T HIT 126.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT 100 WAS ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSION LIKE THAT.

IT WAS THAT ENSUE.

WELL THERE WASN'T THE 126 WAS THE MINIMUM THAT THE CLIENT WOULD WOULD TAKE ON.

SO ORIGINALLY WE WANTED 166 AND THEN THAT DIALED BACK TO 126.

SO WE DID GET A LOT LESS THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY WERE LOOKING FOR.

SO AGAIN, OKAY, CARRY ON.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE YOU HAD THE DIALOG, YOU HAD THE AUDIENCE.

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BUT YOU DIDN'T EVEN GO BEYOND THAT.

WE FELT LIKE THE 126 WAS ME IN THE MIDDLE FROM THE ONE.

ALL RIGHT. ONE. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU OF COURSE SHARING THAT THOUGHT WITH.

OF COURSE. AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS NOW ABOUT THE.

NO. YOU WANTED TO CONTINUE YOUR PRESENTATION WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO CARRY ON. OKAY, I INTERRUPTED, YOU KNOW YOU'RE OKAY.

OKAY, LET ME GET THE TRAFFIC STUDY HERE.

SO AGAIN, I AM NOT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I AM A CIVIL ENGINEER, SO I'LL DO MY BEST TO INTERPRET THE INFORMATION.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE CITY ENGINEER CAN ANSWER FILL IN THE GAPS WHERE I AM DEFICIENT IN.

SO I JUST WANT TO START UP WITH THE PROCESS.

RIGHT. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS WITH CITY STAFF.

WE HAVE TO THE CITY STAFF HAS TO APPROVE THE METHOD THAT WE SUBMIT, AND THEN WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO THE CITY FIRST APPROVES THE METHOD AND GIVES US THE PARAMETERS THAT WE HAVE TO BASE OUR DESIGN OFF.

WE DO THE DESIGN, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, THE STUDIES, AND THEN WE PRESENT THE INFORMATION.

ALL RIGHT. THAT WAS ALL APPROVED BY CITY STAFF.

AND THE APPROACH IS AS FOLLOWS.

SO THE INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE ANALYZED WERE BRAMBLEWOOD CIRCLE AT BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

SO THE MAIN ENTRY POINT AND THEN COGAN DRIVE AND BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD, THAT ENTIRE SEGMENT OF ROAD, BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD, FROM THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS WERE ALSO ANALYZED. ALL RIGHT.

USING THE GROWTH FACTOR THAT THE CITY APPROVED US ON THE 2.21% GROWTH, WE WERE ABLE TO CONDUCT A BACKGROUND ANALYSIS OF THE INTERSECTIONS AND THE ROAD SEGMENTS, AND WE PROJECTED THAT BACKGROUND ANALYSIS FROM WHEN THE HOMES WOULD BE SOLD, WHICH WOULD BE 2026.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE ASSUMING THE FULL BUILD OUT.

SO THE EXISTING BACKGROUND CONDITIONS SHOW THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE TWO INTERSECTIONS AND THE ROAD SEGMENT OF BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD AT A LEVEL.

SO LEVEL OF SERVICE OPERATING AT.

SEE, I BELIEVE YOUR CITY REQUIRES A MINIMUM ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE OF D.

AND I THINK THAT, THE CITY ENGINEER CAN CONFIRM ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. NOW, TABLE THREE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

THAT'S THE BUILT OUT CONDITION.

SO THAT'S OUR PROJECTED DEMAND.

THAT'S THE 126 PLUS THE GROWTH FACTOR TO PROJECTED OUT TO 2026.

RIGHT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS ARE STILL OPERATING AT A LEVEL OF OF SERVICE OF SEE THERE'S NO CHANGE.

THERE'S A SLIGHT, INCREASE IN THE DELAYS AND THERE'S A SLIGHT INCREASE IN THE MOVEMENT VOLUME, BUT THAT'S IT.

THE LEVEL OF SERVICE REMAINS THE SAME AT LEVEL SERVICES.

SEE, THE ROAD SEGMENT THAT WAS ANALYZED AGAIN WAS BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD FROM THOSE TWO INTERSECTIONS.

RIGHT. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TABLE FIVE.

IT STARTS ON ROADWAY SEGMENT ANALYSIS.

AND THEN THE TABLE FIVE IS KIND OF WHAT I'M GOING TO BE REFERRING TO IN THE DATA.

SO THE TWO TABLES AGAIN IT'S THE A M PEAK HOUR BACKGROUND.

THAT'S WITH THE GROWTH FACTOR AND THE BUILT OUT CONDITION.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS SEE FOR THE FUTURE NONPROFIT THE FUTURE NON PROJECT AM PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND THE BUILT OUT AM PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ALSO REMAIN LEVEL SERVICE.

SEE. ALL RIGHT THEN WE DID THE SAME ANALYSIS WITH THE PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

AND AGAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD IS SEE CURRENTLY WITH THAT PROJECTED GROWTH TO 2026 THAT WAS APPROVED BY CITY STAFF.

AND THEN OUR PROJECTED BUILD OUT KEEPS IT AT A LEVEL OF SERVICE OF SEE, SO THERE'S NO DECREASE IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THE ROAD SEGMENTS OR THE TWO INTERSECTIONS.

AND THEN THAT'S ALL I HAVE ON THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THE LAST PAGE IN THE BACK.

THIS KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE TWO INTERSECTIONS THAT WERE ANALYZED HERE AND HERE.

AND THEN THIS IS THE ROAD SEGMENT OF BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD THAT WAS ANALYZED AS WELL, ALL OPERATING WITHIN LEVEL SERVICE OF C.

AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION BY BY PUBLIC BY THE 1 A.M.

AND, AND 2 A.M.

THINKING THOSE WERE WHEN THE TRAFFIC COUNTS ARE DONE.

THAT IS NOT THAT JUST SIGNIFIES THE AM TRAFFIC COUNTS FOR THOSE INTERSECTIONS.

SO 1 A.M. IS ACTUALLY THE AM PEAK HOURS WHICH ARE FROM 7 TO 9.

AND THEN THE THE 1 P.M.

IS THE THAT SAME INTERSECTION ANALYZED FROM 4 TO 6.

ALL RIGHT. SO I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH WITH THE PUBLIC ON THAT.

AND JUST TO CLOSE, I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF.

WE SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION LAST YEAR IN FEBRUARY.

SO THEY HAD ALL YEAR TO LOOK AT IT.

WE'VE WE'VE GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF OF COMMENTS AND ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PER CITY GUIDELINES.

I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE ENGINEERING PLANS AS WELL.

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IT'S CURRENTLY OVER CAPACITY.

OUR PROJECTS IS PROPOSING TO UPGRADE THOSE PUMPS TO ALLEVIATE THE THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE ON THAT PUMP STATION AND THE CITY'S NEEDS.

SO I HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND SERVICE THAT LIFT STATION.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE OR COMMENTS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

OH NO QUESTION. THANK YOU SIR.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YEP. THAT DOES.

YES, MADAM SATAN.

OKAY, SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS POINT? ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S GO TO THE SPEAKER CARDS.

YES, MAYOR. MR. RICHARD WICHITA.

CORRECT. HE'S WITH US IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

OH, WE HAVE TWO, MR. RICHARDS.

OH, OKAY.

YEAH, ONE. RICHARD GRAVES, 511 GÖDEL CIRCLE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

I HAD WRITTEN TO COUNCIL MEMBERS LAST NIGHT MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROJECT.

PARKING IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.

SAFETY IS NUMBER TWO.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPLEX, THERE ARE THREE FAMILY TOWNHOUSES, 126 OF THEM, BASED ON ALL STUDIES.

AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO RELATE TO CLOSE TO FOUR VEHICLES PER DWELLING UNIT.

OKAY. THAT INCREASES THE CAPACITY FROM WHAT THEY HAVE TREMENDOUSLY.

SECONDLY, I MEASURED ONE OF THE ROADS IN THE AREA FROM CURB TO CURB.

IT'S 21FT.

NOW IF YOU HAVE GUESTS, IF YOU HAVE COMPANY, IF YOU HAVE FOUR KIDS, THAT MEANS YOU'RE YOU CAN'T HAVE FOUR CARS OR BETTER WHERE YOU PUT THEM. THEY RAISED THE PROJECT FROM 90 SOMETHING HOMES TO 126 HOMES.

I THINK THEY SHOULD GO BACK DOWN TO THE 90 LEVEL AND MAKE PARKING AREAS FOR THE EXCESS CARS, BECAUSE IF YOU PUT CARS ON THE STREET, WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED EVEN IF PEOPLE COME TO VISIT.

OKAY. YOU BLOCKING THE ROAD? WHEN YOU HAVE A 21FT ASPHALT ROAD, CURB TO CURB TWO CARS, THE ONE ON EACH SIDE OF THE STREET ONLY LEAVES YOU ABOUT SEVEN FEET FOR A VEHICLE TO GET THROUGH.

YOU HAVE POLICE CARS.

YOU HAVE AMBULANCES.

NOW, IF IT'S A VAN AMBULANCE, IT'LL GO THROUGH.

IF IT'S A BOXY AMBULANCE YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH AND A FIRE DEPARTMENT TRUCK CAN NEVER GO THROUGH.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THINGS AND I DON'T KNOW YOUR CODE STRUCTURE, I'LL BE HONEST.

I HAVE BUILT POWER PLANTS, MALLS, HIGH RISES IN MANHATTAN.

YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT ALL THE CODES.

NOT ONLY THE BUILDING CODES, BUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CODES, THE HEALTH CODES.

OKAY. BEFORE YOU PUT ANY PROJECT TOGETHER, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING DONE.

NOW, LAST MONTH, I WAS HERE, AND THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND MEETING SINCE I'VE MOVED DOWN HERE.

IT WAS STATED THAT THERE WAS 260 PARKING SPACES TO PUT DWELLING UNITS AND EIGHT EXTRA.

NOW TODAY I HEAR THIS THREE PER DWELLING UNIT.

SO WHAT CHANGED? HOW DID IT CHANGE? DID THEY EXPAND? DID THEY ELONGATE THE DRIVEWAYS? ARE THEY INTO THE STREET NOW? BECAUSE SOME OF THE PICTURES I SAW LAST TIME.

YOU CAN ONLY FIT TWO CARS ON THE PROPERTY.

ONE IN THE DRIVEWAY, ONE IN THE GARAGE.

NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE.

SO IF YOU'RE A FAMILY WITH THREE BEDROOMS AND YOU HAVE TWO KIDS, YOU HAVE FOUR KIDS WHERE THEY PUT THEIR VEHICLES.

THERE'S NO PLACE TO PUT HIM.

SO I WOULD GO BACK DOWN TO THE 90 BUILDING LEVEL AND ASK FOR THOSE AREAS, FOR PARKING SPACES, FOR THE FOR THE FAMILIES, THE NORMAL. THANK YOU SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY.

NO WORRIES. NEXT, MR. BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

ON THE HISTORY CLASS.

I WATCH YOU HISTORY CLASS COMING INTO THIS MEETING, I THINK BACK TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY WHEN BAYSIDE LAKES WAS THE

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THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

IT WAS THE HOLE IN THE DONUT, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARTY AREA WAS.

WE MADE A LOT OF CHANGES SINCE THEN THAT CAME OUT OF IT.

BUT PART OF THAT CHANGE WAS THE ORIGINAL BAYSIDE LAKES PLAN PRESENTATION.

IN THAT PLAN PRESENTATIONS, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE PRESENTING TO THE CITY WAS A WAS A GOLF COURSE.

THE OTHER THING THEY WERE PRESENTING WAS GOING TO BE THE HOUSING DENSITY.

THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED WHEN BAYSIDE LAKES WAS BEING PRESENTED.

WELL IT BUILDS.

IT PUTS A.

BAD TASTE IN SOME PEOPLE'S MOUTHS WHEN YOU SAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE APPROVED TO GET BAYSIDE LAKES DEVELOPED, WHICH WAS A GOLF COURSE AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DENSITY ON EVERY ACRE THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.

THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

NOW WE'RE SEEING ALL THOSE CHANGES THAT ARE BEING MADE THAT DIDN'T COINCIDE WITH THE DREAM OF BAYSIDE LAKES.

I DO APPRECIATE THE LANDOWNER'S RIGHT TO USE THEIR LAND.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAN IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS AROUND THEM.

SO I GO BACK AND FORTH ON THIS ONE WHERE IT SAYS, CAN YOU MEET YOUR ORIGINAL DESIGN? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS TOLD TO THE RESIDENTS OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO BUILD WHEN BAYSIDE LAKES WAS BUILT.

AND IF YOU CAN THROW THAT IN THERE, ALSO PUT IN THEIR GOLF COURSE FORM.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MR.. SINCERE.

JACK. SINCERE.

JACQUES SAINT-CYR FOR 80 GARDENDALE CIRCLE.

SOUTHEAST. GARDENDALE CIRCLE IS IN MONTEREY COVE, WHICH IS BEHIND THE CONDOS.

WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE IN 2007, SO WE KNEW ABOUT THE 92.

PRIOR TO 2006, THOUGH, THAT LOT WAS A CATHOLIC CHURCH PROPERTY.

THE CITY OR SOMEBODY SWAPPED THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE PROPERTY AT OSMOSIS AND COGAN, AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.

AND NOW THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO BE CONDOS OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

NOW, THAT DOES INCREASE THE THE TRAFFIC.

NOW IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

THEY TOOK A LOOK AT TWO INTERSECTIONS.

ONE OF THEM WASN'T BRAMBLEWOOD AND BAYSIDE.

THAT'LL MAKE FIVE SUBDIVISIONS ONE EXIT, ONE ENTRANCE.

IF YOU ADD AN ADDITIONAL 34 OR WHATEVER THE EXTRA HOUSES ARE.

AND TONIGHT YOU HEARD THEY COULD PUT THREE HOUSES ON EVERY ONE OF THEM.

THAT'S OVER 100 CARS IF IT HAPPENED.

I WAITED TONIGHT JUST TO COME TO THIS MEETING FOR FIVE MINUTES AT THAT INTERSECTION TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN AND GO ON BAYSIDE LAKES.

THE CAR IS GOING TOWARD, THE COGAN WERE BACKED UP QUITE A WAYS.

I COULD SEE HIM AND THAT IT'S.

AND THE CARS COMING FROM THAT AREA IS ONE OF THE REASONS I COULDN'T PULL OUT.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WITH NOT TAKING A LOOK AT THE FIVE DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. MR. GARY HALFHIDE, SIR.

WE GET THIS? WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS, PUT UP ON THE SCREEN, IF POSSIBLE.

AND, MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF.

WE APPRECIATE THAT UP, SIR.

SO YOU CAN SPEAK TO THEM.

YOU GOT IT? YEAH. OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, I HAD ALL THIS LAID OUT FOR YOU, AND I WAS GOING TO SAY.

BUT AFTER HEARING, THE ATTORNEY SPEAK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT JUST JUMPED OUT.

I JUST FEEL TO JUST THROW THIS PIECE AWAY.

REGARDING THE SCHOOL REPORT FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD, WHICH IS ON THIS, THE CITY'S WEBSITE, IT ACTUALLY SAYS THEY'RE FROM BAYSIDE LAKES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS DONE WAS SUBMITTED ON SEPTEMBER 13TH.

THAT'S AFTER THE, BAYSIDE LANDINGS WAS ALREADY APPROVED ON COGAN AND OSMOSIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SAY IT'S ALL LIKE THAT, AND IT'S NOT JUST BLACK AND WHITE.

AND I DO APPRECIATE THE BUILDER TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO US.

BUT WHEN WE SPOKE TO HIM, WE SAID, LOOK, WE'RE ALREADY OVERCROWDED.

THERE'S ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT OF HERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE TOO MUCH, HE SAID.

IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY FOR US TO BUILD 92.

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EVERYTHING'S UP.

MATERIAL IS UP.

WHAT? I SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T SEE WHAT YOUR PROFITS HAS TO DO WITH MY PROPERTY AND MY WAY OF LIVING.

AND I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CODE.

AND THE CODE.

YOU KNOW, 185 .005 TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY ORDER, APPEARANCE, CONVENIENCE AND WELFARE OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE CITY, THE LESSENING OF CONGESTION ON THE STREETS.

LET'S JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FIRE STATIONS.

HOW MANY FIRE STATIONS DO WE HAVE IN PALM BAY? I KNOW IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

AND WE'RE SHORT FIRE STATIONS, AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THAT, POLICE OFFICERS, WE'RE SHORT AS THAT.

WELL, SO IT'S NOT JUST TAKING A PARCEL OF LAND AND SAYING, WELL, YOU CAN BUILD THIS BASED ON THIS ACREAGE, AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

NO, YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE WHOLE PICTURE.

FROM THE START OF THIS MEETING, ALL WE HEARD ABOUT WAS PROBLEMS IN TERMS OF GROWTH, WHICH IS OKAY, BUT YOU KEEP BUILDING AND BUILDING AND BUILDING, AND THERE'S NO JOBS BEING PROVIDED. IT'S BECOMING A PROBLEM.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ACCIDENTS ON BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

AS YOU KNOW, AT THE INTERSECTION, CHILD WAS KILLED EVEN.

I DON'T WANT TO BRING THAT UP, BUT IT'S TRUE.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT BOTHER ME.

AND ASKING FOR A 35% INCREASE FROM THE ORIGINALLY ZONED AMOUNT IS A PROBLEM.

IF EVERY SINGLE BUILDER CAME HERE AND ASKED FOR, WE HAVE TO INCREASE IT BECAUSE COSTS ARE UP.

COULD YOU JUST IMAGINE WHAT OUR CITY WOULD LOOK LIKE? IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CITY COMPARED TO SOUTH FLORIDA, WE ARE GROWING AT A 54% RATE, FASTER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES IN SOUTH FLORIDA.

EVEN, FORT LAUDERDALE, YOU NAME IT.

SO I THINK IT'S OKAY TO BUILD YOUR 92.

I CAN'T STOP YOU FROM BUILDING 92.

BUT I CAN ASK THAT WE TAKE THIS GROWTH SLOW, PUMP THE BRAKES, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT SURROUNDING THAT'S HAPPENING, AND YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE EVERY PARCEL OF LAND AND STUFF, AS MANY HOUSES AS YOU CAN IN THERE.

IT JUST DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR IT.

THE FLOODING, THE ROADWAYS, THE WATER, THE LIGHT, THE AIR, THE ENVIRONMENT, EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT.

SO I ASK YOU TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND, LET'S STICK TO THAT.

92. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

LET'S SPEAK TO MR. PETER MULLINGS.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS PETER MULLINGS. FOUR SIX BRECKINRIDGE CIRCLE SOUTH EAST, AND JUST CONTINUE ON TO WHAT MY WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID.

BUT BEFORE I STARTED THAT, I HEARD THE BUILDER SAID EARLIER THAT THEY WILL KEEP AND WORK WITH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND IF THEY'RE DOING THAT, THEREFORE, THE DEVELOPMENT COST WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER.

SINCE YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN SEWER, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN WATER, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING IN STREETS.

SO THE ADDITIONAL UNITS, IN MY OPINION, ONLY MEANS ADDITIONAL PROFITS.

BUT CONTINUE ON WITH 185 005 THE SECTION ABOUT PRESERVING THE CHARACTER AND STABILITY OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS, THE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED TOWNHOMES DO NOT ALIGN WITH THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THE STYLISTIC DIFFERENCES WILL CREATE VISUAL DISCORD AND DIMINISH THE COHESIVE AND CHARMING APPEARANCE THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS WORKED HARD TO CULTIVATE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THREATENS TO DISRUPT THE CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, LEADING TO A DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES AND OVERALL APPEAL.

NOW, ON THE SECTION FACILITATING THE ADEQUATE PROVISIONS OF TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, SEWAGE DRAINAGE, AND SANITATION, THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED INCREASED TOWNHOMES MAY POSE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES, INCLUDING STRAIN ON WATER AND SEWAGE SYSTEMS, POTENTIAL HARM TO LOCAL WILDLIFE HABITATS, AND A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON GREEN SPACES.

WITH THE RECENT APPROVAL OF THE BAYSIDE LANDINGS.

WHEN CONSIDERING THE PROPOSED INCREASE FOR RAMBLEWOOD TOWNHOMES, THE IMPACT AS A WHOLE MUST BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE WITHIN A ONE MILE PROXIMITY AND WILL UTILIZE THE SAME RESOURCES AND ON THE SECTION OF CONSERVING AND ENHANCING THE STANDARD OF LIVING WITHIN THE CITY. WITH THE INFLUX OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY COMING TO OUR CITY, IT IS.

IT IS GROWING FASTER THAN APPROXIMATE TO 85% OF ALL SIMILAR SIZED CITIES SINCE 2000.

IF YOU ALLOW EVERY BUILDER OR DEVELOPER TO EXCEED THE ORIGINAL PLANNED QUANTITY OF HOMES THAT THE VACANT LAND WAS APPROVED FOR, WE WOULD HAVE MAJOR, MAJOR ISSUES.

YOU MUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL FUTURE REQUESTS THAT WILL BE COMING YOUR WAY.

BAYSIDE LAKES HAS A HIGHER PROPORTION OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN ITS REAL ESTATE STOCK THAN 93.3% OF ALL AMERICAN NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND WE ARE WE ARE KINDLY URGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT THE PROPOSED INCREASE IN TOWNHOMES AND ADHERED TO THE APPROVED ORIGINAL

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FOLLOWING THE ORIGINAL PLAN WILL MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY, SAFETY AND CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.

BASED ON THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE 185 .005.

THE PROJECT AS REQUESTED BY INB MUST NOT BE ALLOWED.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. MR. JOHN MCGEE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M PICKING UP THE TAIL COATS HERE OF MY FORMER COLLEAGUES HERE.

I'M GOING TO JUST KIND OF RECAP WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THIS PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, BUT UNDER CITY CODE AND UNDER CITY LAW, ONLY PEOPLE WITHIN 500FT OF THIS PROPOSED PROPERTY WERE NOTIFIED.

SO WHEN WE WERE NOTIFIED, WE MET WITH THE BUILDER.

WE TOOK THE LETTER. WE MET WITH THE BUILDER.

THERE WAS ABOUT 20 SOME PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP.

WHY? BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE EVEN KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING ON.

SO WE HAD TO NOTIFY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF 375 HOMES BEHIND THE GATES, WHICH NOBODY TALKS ABOUT.

AND WE GOT TOGETHER AND SAID, THIS IS WHAT THE CITY AND THE BUILDER WANT TO DO TO US.

AND THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF OUTRAGE AND A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN.

WE DID MEET WITH THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT OFFICE SEVERAL TIMES, AND THEY WERE VERY COOPERATIVE IN PROVIDING US INFORMATION.

WE MET WITH THE BUILDER, AS KYLE REFERENCED, AND AT NO TIME DID WE EVER DEMAND THAT NOTHING BE BUILT.

WE ASKED, STICK TO THE PLAN 92 UNITS.

WE WILL AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN.

BUT WHAT WE DID OBJECT TO WAS BUILDING.

THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDER PROPOSES TO BUILD.

NOW THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN GIVEN FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

SO IF THEY'VE CHANGED THEIR DESIGNS SINCE THEN, THAT'S FINE.

BUT THEY DON'T BELONG IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT HAS RULES LIKE THAT.

THERE'S NO COMPARISON.

ALL WE ASKED WAS BUILD 92 UNITS THAT LOOK LIKE WHAT BELONGS IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

NOW THE BUILDER CONSTRUCTS AND SELLS HIS UNITS.

HE TAKES HIS PROFITS.

HE'S GONE.

HE DOESN'T CARE WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS AFTERWARDS.

THE CITY WILL BEGIN COLLECTING TAXES.

GOOD. THAT'S GOOD.

WE NEED MONEY TO RUN THE CITY.

BUT IF THE PROJECT OF THE BUILDERS IS APPROVED THE WAY HE WANTS TO DO IT, THE WAY HE WANTS TO DO IT.

THEN WE, THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN BAYSIDE LAKES WERE STUCK WITH ALL THE AFTERMATH.

OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS, ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, CONGESTION AND TRAFFIC AND IMPACT AND SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING AND PUBLIC SAFETY, EVERYTHING ELSE, WE'RE STUCK WITH IT.

OKAY. SO AS CITIZENS, IT'S NOT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THE BUILDER MAKES A PROFIT MARGIN THAT HE WANTS.

HE IS GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT, PROBABLY, BUT MAYBE JUST NOT AS MUCH AS HE WANTS TO MAKE.

BUT IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY.

AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE GOVERNMENT TO FOLLOW THE CODE, WHICH GARY REFERENCED AT THE BEGINNING.

THAT'S YOUR CODE. YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD COMMUNITIES BASED ON THAT CODE.

WELL, THERE ARE SEVERAL POINTS IN THIS THAT DON'T ALLOW FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU.

FIGURE THE HUMAN EQUATION.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MR.. RICHARD, MR. RENNER. NO.

ARE YOU DONE? IT'S TO SECOND MR. RICHARD. YOUR WISH.

JUST. OH, SO DID YOU.

DID YOU WANTED TO REBUT? USE THAT. YES.

OKAY. ANY.

YES, MA'AM. COME RIGHT UP.

ACTUALLY, MR. STICE FIRST.

HE WAS THE LAST ONE TO SEND THAT BLUE CARD UP, MA'AM.

MRS. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL ROBERT STILES, 1796 WYNFORD DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.

I HAD ABOUT 15 ITEMS ON THIS, BUT, LET ME TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I POSSIBLY CAN.

MY DAD USED TO SAY TO ME, IT ALL ADDS UP.

OKAY, SO YOU HAVE FIVE COMMUNITIES I JUST HEARD WITH ONE EXIT IN OR OUT.

AND WE HAVE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM THE FIRE CHIEF HOW QUICKLY A HOUSE WILL CATCH FIRE, HOW QUICKLY OUR HOUSE WILL CATCH FIRE.

AND ONE.

ONE. WHERE'S THE SAFETY IN THIS, MR. MAYOR? THERE IS NO SAFETY IF YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF DENSITY.

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OH MY GOD, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU HAD SOME? THERE'S NOT AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE.

ALSO. WHAT WHAT WE DON'T LOOK AT I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY.

IT ALL ADDS UP.

SO HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS PROJECT IS ALMOST 300 PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LIVE HERE NOW.

MOST YOUNG WORKERS TODAY ARE LIVING WITH PARENTS.

THEY CAN'T AFFORD AN AVERAGE RENT OF ABOUT $1,760.

OKAY, SO NINE NINE EXPANDING PARKING SPACES.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THESE PEOPLE HERE WHEN THE KIDS ARE GOING TO COLLEGE, OR THEY'RE WORKING AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET AN APARTMENT WITH OTHER PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME. THERE'S FOUR PEOPLE WHO GRADUATED COLLEGE RENTING A HOUSE.

THIS IS REALITY TODAY.

OKAY. SO ALSO WHAT'S COMING DOWN IS PROPOSAL IN MY AREA OF BAYSIDE LAKES, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE GOLF COURSE, 168 TOWNHOMES, 195 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE 40 BY 80 LOTS.

IT ALL ADDS UP.

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU HAVE THAT CONTINUE TO COME INTO ALL OF THESE HOMES, STACKED ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER? AND LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET ON I-95.

INFRASTRUCTURE IN HERE IS NOT THE AREA IN NEW YORK THAT YOU GREW UP, MR. MAYOR OR JERSEY? THERE'S 15 DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET SOMEPLACE.

YOU MAY HAVE 2 OR 3 AREAS, 2 OR 3 ROADS.

IF YOU CAN GET TO THAT, YOU CAN KIND OF WIGGLE DOWN HERE AND TRY TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY OR WHERE YOU'RE WORKING AT.

ALL. RIGHT. HOW MANY HOUSES DOES IT TAKE AND WHAT DOES STAFF LOOK AT LOOK LIKE TO SAY, WHAT ARE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE NEED TO COMPLETELY RUIN THIS UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

LET'S LOOK AT THE REALITY.

AND AS WE USED TO SAY, LET'S TAKE A REALITY PILL ON THIS, OKAY, SAFETY, INFRASTRUCTURE, SHOPPING, CRIME.

AND LET'S NOT FORGET THAT L SHAPED TRAFFIC AREA RIGHT OUTSIDE MY GATE AND SUMMERFIELD, OKAY? WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I GIVE YOU HIGH PRAISE FOR THE LAST MEETING WITH THE GENTLEMAN WANTED TO PUT IN THAT APARTMENT, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.

GOT AN OVER 55 COMMUNITY WHATNOT.

THESE GUYS DON'T GET OUT AND DRIVE.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I'M WORKING HARDER NOW THAN I HAVE IN THE PAST 40 YEARS.

SO LOOK AT THE REALITY OF SAFETY.

YOU GOT TO PROVIDE THE SAFETY, ALL RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PARK.

AND RIGHT NOW, INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE.

YOU GOT BIGGER PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH WITH SEPTIC.

PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, MISS ANNE DAVIS.

HAS EVERYONE TURNED IN THEIR BLUE CARD? THAT IS WILLING TO SPEAK.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS ANNE DAVIS.

I RESIDE AT 123 RIDGEMONT CIRCLE, AND THAT'S IN THE MAGNOLIA PARK.

ONE OF THE FOUR BEHIND THE PROPOSAL.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN PALM BAY SINCE 1985, AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE BAYSIDE LAKES SINCE 2004, SO PRETTY MUCH SINCE THE BEGINNING.

AND SO I KNOW PALM BAY AS THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT UTILITY.

PALM BAY, BAD PART OF BREVARD COUNTY.

AND WE WORKED VERY HARD OVER THE LAST THREE DECADES TO IMPROVE PALM BAY'S REPUTATION.

AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS WAS BUILDING THIS BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY.

IT WAS TO BRING IN STEM EMPLOYEES.

I WORKED AT HARRIS 36 YEARS.

BRING A HIGHER, HIGHER HOME VALUES, A GOLF COURSE, A CERTAIN TYPE OF REPUTATION TO PALM BAY, WHICH I REALLY DO THINK THAT IT HAS DONE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS THE GOLF COURSE CLOSED DOWN AND THINGS ARE CHANGING THERE, AND AS WE'RE CONTINUING TO INCREASE THE CONGESTION AND HAVE SMALLER AND SMALLER LOT LINES, AND WE HAVE ALL THE ISSUES WITH THE COMPOUND JUST NOT VERY FAR FROM THERE, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE TO THIS AREA TO PAY THE PREMIUM FOR THOSE KIND OF HOMES.

IF WE CONTINUE AT LEAST WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO ME KIND OF DAMAGE THE JEWEL THAT WE WORKED SO HARD TO CREATE.

SO, I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

ALSO WITH THE OTHER PERSON DID SAY IS LAST TIME WHEN WE WERE AT PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY TALKED ABOUT THERE WAS PARKING FOR TWO CARS, NOT THREE.

THEY DID TALK ABOUT THAT AND THEY ADDED EITHER 8 OR 9 SPOTS.

NOW, YES, IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF THAT NEW COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THERE'S NO PARKING ON THE STREET.

HOWEVER, WHEN THERE'S A GRADUATION OR THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING, WHO'S GOING TO PREVENT THOSE PEOPLE FROM PARKING AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER PARKING LOT? THAT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT, JUST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

SO I COULD SEE THOSE OVERFLOW CARS GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY CENTER OVERNIGHT, AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THOSE BOATS AND RVS AND OTHER THINGS OVER THERE. I JUST THINK WE REALLY NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AND, KEEP THE DEVELOPMENT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED.

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THANK YOU. MISTER RICHTER, IF YOU IF YOU WISH.

AND THAT'S IT? YEAH. CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. REBUTTAL, PLEASE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AGAIN, KIM BREZINKA, ON BEHALF OF INB, THE CONTRACT PURCHASER.

I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU TO FOLLOW YOUR CODE, FOLLOW YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND LISTEN TO YOUR STAFF.

THE STAFF LEGISLATIVE MEMO FROM YOUR CITY MANAGER CLEARLY STATES THAT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE FINAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL, THE PROPOSAL MUST MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF 185 .067 OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.

UPON REVIEW, IT APPEARS THE REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION.

ALL TECHNICAL STAFF REVIEW COMMENTS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND THE STAFF REPORT ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

GOING THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS, AGAIN, I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS LIKE A SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE OVERALL PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.

I DO WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMPATIBILITY.

AGAIN, THIS PROJECT IS NOT NEXT TO ANY OF THESE.

YOU KNOW, THE THE NEXT TO ANY OF THESE HOMEOWNERS, THAT HAVE DISCUSSED IT.

SO IN IT'S BACK BEHIND THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT I A PROBLEM THEY'RE NOT IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.

THEY DID SHOW BAYSIDE LAKES, FAIRWAY CROSSINGS.

AND BASED UPON THAT, AND THIS IS IN YOUR PACKET, THE ELEVATIONS WERE CHANGED.

SO THEY ARE MORE CONSISTENT.

THEY DID CHANGE THE ROOFLINE BASED UPON WHAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED.

THE IN THEIR POWERPOINT IS THE OLD DRAWING.

IT'S NOT THE SAME.

SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR.

THIS DENSITY YOUR FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AGAIN, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 20 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

THIS COULD BE 400 UNITS UNDER YOUR POLICIES AND GOALS, WHICH GUIDE THE CITY.

THE ZONING IS PUD.

YES. THERE WAS A PLAT THAT WAS APPROVED AT 92 UNITS.

IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT.

IT HASN'T BEEN BUILT BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE BUILT.

THEY'RE ASKING TO INCREASE IT BY 34 UNITS.

THEY HAVE MADE CONCESSIONS.

THEY HAVE DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT SAY NO PARKING ON THE STREETS, NO BOAT PARKING IN YOUR UNLESS IT'S COMPLETELY IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.

AND THAT'S UP TO THE HOA TO MONITOR.

IT'S A PRIVATE STREET.

THESE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO BE PARKING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT ANOTHER PARKING REQUIREMENT IS FOR ANOTHER SUBDIVISION.

REGARDING THE ASPHALT, THE ASPHALT IS 24FT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN THERE SO LONG.

THE GRASS IS OVERGROWN.

IT THEY WILL TAKE OFF THE GRASS, THEY WILL MILL IT.

THEY WILL PUT IN A MORE ASPHALT OVER TOP TO MAKE IT COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR ROADS.

YOUR STAFF WILL OVERSEE THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROADS ARE THE RIGHT WAY.

REGARDING THE TWO SPACES TWO, THREE SPACES P AND Z, THEY DID SHOW TWO ON THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BECAUSE THAT'S ALL YOUR CODE REQUIRES FOR A THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH IS TWO, SO ONE CAR IN THE GARAGE AND ONE CAR BEHIND IT.

BUT THESE ARE 16 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAYS.

FAIRWAYS ARE NOT.

THEY'RE ONE AND ONE.

THEY HAVE DRIVEWAYS NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

SO THERE ARE TWO SPACES NOW SHOWN.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S THREE CARS THAT CAN PARK FOR EVERY UNIT IN THE DRIVEWAY IN THE GARAGE, CONSISTENT WITH THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.

THE FIVE SUBDIVISIONS ON ONE ENTRANCE.

THAT INTERSECTION WAS PART OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

AND SO IT DID ACCOUNT FOR ALL OF THESE FIVE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND I'M NOT AS GOOD WITH THE NAMES OF THE ROADS, BUT THE BRAMBLEWOOD AND BAYSIDE LAKES THAT WAS INDEED INCLUDED IN YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY.

YOU'RE ACTUALLY ADOPTED.

LEVEL OF SERVICE IS E, AND THIS IS AT SEA AND WILL REMAIN AT SEA.

THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS.

AGAIN, TRUST YOUR STAFF.

MR. WANTANABE HAS LOOKED AT THIS TRAFFIC STUDY AND METHODOLOGY LETTER AND HAS APPROVED IT.

WE'VE MET THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE.

AS, MR. COSBY SAID, THEY MAY HAVE TO PUT A NEW WATER AND SEWER LINES.

THEY'RE NOT SURE. IT'S BEEN 18 YEARS SINCE ANYTHING'S BEEN PUT IN THAT ROAD.

SO THEY HAVE TO RUN CHECKS.

THEY MAY HAVE TO REDO IT.

BUT AGAIN, THE OWNER IS DEMANDING A HIGH PRICE BECAUSE OF THE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL 20 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

REGARDING, THE HIGH DENSITY.

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IT'S ACTUALLY BETWEEN HIGH DENSITY IS BETWEEN MEDIUM DENSITY AND LOW DENSITY.

IN YOUR FUTURE LAND USE, MONTEREY COVE TO THE SOUTH IS 5.8 UNITS TO THE ACRE.

AND THEY'RE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, SO IT'S NOT EVEN INCONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ADJACENT TO IT.

SO THEY CAN SAY THEY DON'T WANT MORE HOMES, BUT IT'S NOT DENSER, AND IT IS AN ALTERNATIVE TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AS TO THE PRICE AND PEOPLE CAN'T BUY IT, THAT'S A BUSINESS DECISION FOR THE DEVELOPER AND THE BUILDER, AND THEY WILL BUY IT.

THEY ARE BUYING IT. IT IS A LOWER HOME, MORE ATTAINABLE THAN A $400,000 HOME.

BUT IT'S STILL NICE. IT'S NICE CONSTRUCTED.

IT'S CONCRETE MASONRY BLOCK.

AND IT'S INTENDED FOR FAMILIES AND IT'S SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP, WHICH EVERYONE IS TRYING TO ATTAIN.

AGAIN, IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMP PLAN.

IT'S CONSISTENT WITH 185 .0667 IS SIMILAR DENSITY TO THE OTHER TOWNHOME PROJECTS NEARBY.

IT'S SIMILAR DENSITY TO THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH.

AND THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS IT'S NOT GOING TO DECREASE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

IT DOES INCREASE THE TIME IT TAKES TO TURN.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY, IT'S BY SECONDS.

IT'S NOT A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

THAT'S WHAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWS.

THAT'S WHAT YOUR STAFF HAS, HAS ACCEPTED AND AGREED TO.

SO WITH THAT, I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR 126 UNITS.

AS IT IS CONSISTENT, IT MEETS YOUR CODE, IT MEETS YOUR COMP PLAN, AND YOUR STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND TIME.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. ZANCA? DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY QUESTIONS OF MISS ROSENKER? YES. I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

THAT BROUGHT UP. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. IS IT TOWARDS.

IS IT TOWARDS MISS REBUTTAL? YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT PARKING.

THE PARKING, THE PARKING, IN THE SUBDIVISION THAT DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT, PARKING ISSUE.

THEY THEY BUILD MORE ADDITIONAL PARKING OTHER THAN THE RESIDENCE OTHER THAN THE, FOR THE TOWNHOMES, ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACE, OR IS JUST ENOUGH FOR THE.

TOWNHOME OWNERS.

THERE'S THERE'S THREE PARKING SPACES FOR EACH THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATH TOWNHOME.

AND THEN THERE'S A RECREATION AREA WITH NINE SPACES, AND THERE'S THE DEED RESTRICTION THAT SAYS NO VEHICLES SHALL BE PARKED ANYWHERE BUT WITHIN THE GARAGE CONTAINED ON THE LOT OR WITHIN THE DRIVEWAY OF THE LOT.

SO THERE'S 387 PARKING SPACES TOTAL.

SO ON YOUR PLAN? COUNCILMAN FOSTER THERE'S A RECREATIONAL AREA THAT SHOWS ADDITIONAL SPACES THERE.

MR. ZANCA SAID NINE.

THE NINE ADDITIONAL SPACES.

YES, SIR. OKAY, BUT THE TOTAL PARKING YOU ESTIMATED 387 87.

OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR.

MR.. FRANK WATANABE.

MISS SHERMAN, PLEASE.

YES, SIR. YOUR NAME HAS BEEN THROWN AROUND A FEW TIMES, SO I FEEL. YEAH. GOOD EVENING, CITY ENGINEER.

YES, SIR. I HOPE SO.

IT WAS MENTIONED BY ONE OF THE, RESIDENTS.

AND IT WAS SPOKEN ON A LITTLE BIT FROM MR. HRYTSENKO REGARDING THE TRAFFIC STUDY BEING PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF, AN ITEM BACK IN THE FALL OF SEPTEMBER.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT CLOSE TO THE MIC.

SURE. JUST TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE DISCUSSION WE HAD WHEN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER CAME TO ME.

THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH 126.

THE AM AND PM CHIPS ARE BELOW 100.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

I REQUESTED BECAUSE I KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THE CITY COMMUNITY, THAT I WANTED THEM TO DO A SPECIAL TRAFFIC STUDY TO MAKE SURE THEY ACCOMMODATED ANY ISSUES, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

JUST AGAIN, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT OUR TRAFFIC STUDY REQUIREMENTS, SHOWED YOU HAVE TO HAVE OVER 100 TRIPS TO DO A STUDY AGAIN AT ANY TIME.

I COULD ALWAYS SUPERSEDE THAT AND REQUEST IT.

IF IT'S IN A, YOU KNOW, IN A VERY CONGESTED AREA OR VERY SAFETY AREA.

BUT THEY DID ONE BECAUSE THEY, THEY I REQUESTED IT AND THEY DID THE STUDY.

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AND FOR THE PM IT'S 75 UNDER THE HUNDRED.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS.

BUT THEY STILL DID THE STUDY AND JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO.

THERE WAS AN ERROR. THEY DID MENTION THAT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON THAT ROAD IS LEVEL SERVICE E IT IS NOT.

IT'S LEVEL SERVICE D IN THE NEW COMP PLAN 20 2045, IT WAS CHANGED TO D.

A LOT OF OUR STREETS WERE CHANGED FROM FROM THE ORIGINAL TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WE HAD ON, ON OUR ORIGINAL COMP PLAN WAS LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SEE, WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT AND WITH THE NEW COMP PLAN, WE CHANGED A LOT OF OUR STREETS TO LEVEL OF SERVICE D AND E, BUT FOR BAYSIDE LAKES IT'S THE LEVEL OF SERVICE D, SO THAT IS AN ERROR. BUT THE VOLUME SHE HAS IN THE REPORT, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE VOLUME, WHICH IS WHAT THEY CALL THE A M AV, WHICH THEY HAVE LISTED AS 39,800.

THAT IS FOR LEVEL OF SERVICE.

D SO THAT IS STILL CORRECT.

SO THAT IS THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF VOLUME FOR FOUR LANE ROADWAY THAT YOU COULD CARRY ON A ON A DAILY BASIS.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, THEIR AVERAGE AVERAGE VOLUME RIGHT NOW IS ABOUT 16,000.

SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY I KNOW THERE'S ISSUES SIGNAL ISSUES, TRAFFIC ISSUES, OTHER ISSUES, BUT PURE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU CARRY ALMOST 40,000 TRIPS ON THAT ROADWAY, FOUR LANE ROADWAY, AND YOU ONLY HAVE 16.

THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS.

SO THOSE ARE THE FACTS. I CAN'T CHANGE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THAT MAYOR. THANK YOU SIR.

QUICK QUICK QUESTION. CARRY ON, DEPUTY MAYOR.

NOW WHAT ARE THE TIME? THE TIME WINDOW.

WHERE ARE THOSE? STUDIES WERE DONE SPECIFICALLY.

I DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES.

BUT AGAIN, THEY THEY TAKE A LOOK AT, THEY MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DO THEIR HOLIDAYS AND THEY MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THE STUDIES.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED.

HERE IS THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY.

IT WAS SUBMITTED IN SEPTEMBER OF, 20, 20.

SCHOOL. OH, BUT IT WAS DONE.

NO, WE ALWAYS ADVISE THEM THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THE COUNTS, WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.

AND SNOWBIRDS ALWAYS.

YEAH, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT'S DONE DURING.

AND WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE COUNTS, ESPECIALLY THE, THE TERM COUNTS AND THE ADT COUNTS ARE DONE WITHIN ONE YEAR TIME FRAME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, VOLUMES CHANGE.

SO WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE IT'S DONE WITHIN A ONE YEAR TIME FRAME AND IS ALWAYS DONE WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST TRIPS WE WANT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. WATANABE? MR. FOSTER. YES.

IN 2006, WAS IT A TRAFFIC STUDY? DONE. 2006 AND 2006 STUDY DONE PRIOR TO THIS REQUEST FOR 126 TOWNHOMES.

AGAIN, I'M NOT REALLY SURE THE THE QUESTION.

I DO KNOW THAT I JUST CHECKED TO, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY.

I CHECKED OUR OLDEST DATES THAT WE HAVE FOR THE VOLUME OF BAYSIDE LAKES, WHICH WAS 2018 WHEN I JUST GOT HERE.

AND THEN BACK THEN, IT WAS 10,000.

SO IT'S GONE UP 5000.

6000 MORE TRIPS.

SO. SO IT IS INCREASING, BUT IT'S NOT UP TO THE AS AS PEOPLE WANT TO SAY IT'S AT CAPACITY 40,000 CAPACITY.

OF THAT ROADWAY. IT'S A FOUR LANE ROADWAY.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOUR LAST PART OF YOUR ANSWER.

I'M SORRY. IT'S A FOUR LANE ROADWAY.

AND SO THE THE THEY CALL IT THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE VOLUME IS 39,800.

THAT ROADWAY.

OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

I'LL GIVE HIM A SECOND. MAYOR.

MOTION. WHERE AM I? YES. YES. MOTION TO DENY ORDINANCE 2020 404.

SECOND. CAN I GO? CARRY ON. OKAY, I WON'T TAKE LONG, MER, I JUST.

SO FIRST LET ME SAY I WELCOME TOWNHOMES.

I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE ARE THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT DON'T WELCOME HIM AT ALL, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT I DO WELCOME TOWNHOMES BECAUSE IT ENCOURAGES HOME OWNERSHIP.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU OWN SOMETHING, YOU TAKE MORE PRIDE IN SOMETHING.

I KNOW WITH MY FIRST VEHICLE, WHEN MY DAD MADE ME PAY FOR IT, I MADE SURE I WAS EXTRA CAREFUL WITH IT COMPARED TO IF HE WOULD HAVE JUST GIVEN IT TO ME.

SO I UNDERSTAND AND THE HOMEOWNER ASPECT I AGREE WITH.

BUT MAYOR, I JUST CAN'T, I CAN'T JUSTIFY GOING ABOVE 30%.

AND I APPRECIATE I HEARD THE QUESTIONS WHILE I WAS IN THE BACK, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE A COMPROMISE, OF 100 UNITS OR 105 UNITS.

AND WE'VE COME JUST THE OTHER MEETING.

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I KNOW WE HAD THE UPDATE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT, I THINK 92 UNITS IS SUFFICE FOR THIS PROJECT IN THIS AREA, SIR.

SO THAT'S ALL. YEAH.

AND I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT.

I SECONDED THE DENIAL BECAUSE OF THOSE SAME THINGS, BUT I DO I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE PROJECT.

THOSE TOWNHOMES ARE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY BUILD THEIR FAMILY WEALTH.

HOWEVER, I CAN'T I CAN'T AGREE TO ADD ADDITIONAL HOMES.

THE WAY I SAW IT, WAS THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS ALREADY THERE FOR THE 92 HOMES.

ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS GO IN AND START BUILDING THOSE TOWNHOMES, AND THAT WOULD HAVE SUFFICED.

IT IS GOING TO INCREASE AND IN THE CAPACITY OF, OF THE AREA.

BUT 92 HOMES IS A LOT BETTER THAN THE 100 AND THE 34 ADDITIONAL HOMES.

SO THAT'S WHY I SECONDED THE MOTION TO DENY, DEPUTY MAYOR.

NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, I'M NOT GOING TO ADD ANYTHING.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION TO DENY.

ALL IN FAVOR OR MOTION TO DENY BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

PLEASE. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2020 405, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE, SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR FITNESS CENTERS AND OTHER. MA'AM, CAN WE JUST.

WE'LL PAUSE FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FOR EVERYONE TO CLEAR.

WE'LL PAUSE.

WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. THIS IS MY IDEA. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

MADAM SMITH. YES WE ARE.

ORDINANCE 2020 4-05, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE, SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR FITNESS CENTERS AND OTHER INDOOR OUTDOOR HEALTH FACILITIES AND ACTIVITIES WITHIN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDED FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND MR. SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT PROPOSES TO UPDATE A DEFINITION FOR FITNESS CENTERS AND OTHER INDOOR OUTDOOR HEALTH RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, AND THEN ALSO TO ALLOW THAT USE IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL RELATED ZONING CATEGORIES.

SO IN YOUR PACKET AND IN THE ORDINANCE DRAFT, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD IT TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AS A CONDITIONAL USE AND THEN AS A PRINCIPAL USE IN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

THIS CAME TO STAFF'S ATTENTION BECAUSE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FITNESS RELATED CENTERS IN THE CITY THAT OVER THE YEARS HAVE HAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE AND ARE NOT IN PLACES WHERE THEY'RE ZONED, THE MOST THE CLOSEST ONE TO US IS THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET IN THE WINN-DIXIE PLAZA.

SO THAT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION TO TO ADD THAT INTO THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM.

AND AND THESE CONDITIONAL USE LOCATIONS, LIKE RIGHT NOW, LET'S SAY WE HAVE A WE HAVE A, A FITNESS CENTER IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO REQUIRE THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO COME THROUGH.

OR WILL THEY BE GRANDFATHERED IN.

YEAH, THIS WOULD AFFECT, PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.

IN THE FUTURE. OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, WE'RE NOT HINDERING ANYONE'S BUSINESS, THAT'S ALREADY DOING THE BUSINESS AT THAT POINT.

OKAY, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSELOR? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE AYE AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW GOING TO CONSENT.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA]

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MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MISS SHERMAN, CAN WE BRING, FIRE CHIEF UP, PLEASE? YES, CERTAINLY. AND WHILE FIRE CHIEF IS COMING.

IF I CAN READ THE CAPTIONS, SIR.

YES. ORDINANCE NUMBER FOR ORDINANCE 2024, DASH ZERO TWO, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 33, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SUBCHAPTER FIRE PREVENTION.

GENERAL PROVISIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR I KNOW I HAD QUITE A BIT OF, QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS AND WITH THIS ITEM AND YOU DID THE BEST YOU CAN.

TRYING TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

JUST FOR SAKE OF CLARITY, I READ THE EXPLANATIONS, AND I JUST HAD SOME CONCERN IN TERMS OF, THE CHANGE OF THE AMENDMENT TO THIS, TO THIS, ORDINANCE.

MY CONCERN IS, I KNOW, AS THE CODE IS CURRENTLY, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I WANT TO CONVERT MY PRIVATE HOME TO RUN A SMALL BUSINESS ON ALF OR GROUP HOME, GREAT.

SO THE RULE RIGHT NOW I DO HAVE TO ADD ON THESE SPRINKLER FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS AND SO ON.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW THE LAW CHANGED A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN, YOU KNOW, FORMER GOVERNOR SCOTT WAS IN OFFICE DUE TO, YOU KNOW, SITUATION AND LOSS OF LIVES AND ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, SAFETY MEASURES PUT ON THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS, WHICH IS TREMENDOUSLY COSTLY, WHICH I DO UNDERSTAND NOW IN TERMS OF THIS CHANGES.

WOULD YOU EXPLAIN CLEARLY TO US WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT? SO, WITH THESE CHANGES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE IN THIS NEW ORDINANCE IS MORE SO TO JUST KIND OF CLARIFY, WE WE KIND OF ADJUSTED AND CLEANED UP SOME OF THE LANGUAGE THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED IN ONE OF THE ORDINANCES IN RELATION TO THE MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND TOWNHOMES AND APARTMENTS, WHICH IS WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2005.

SO WE KIND OF CLEANED UP SOME OF THAT.

BUT IT WAS ALSO TO KIND OF BRING UP TO WHERE WHEN WE HAVE DEVELOPERS, WE HAVE PEOPLE.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD A LARGE INFLUX OF PEOPLE WITH TRYING TO OPEN UP NEW ALFS ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, GROUP HOMES, FAMILY CARE HOMES, THAT, THIS, THAT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS, I BELIEVE, THE LARGEST NUMBER OR THE SECOND LARGEST NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL CARE HOMES IN THE STATE. AND SO WITH THE AS YOU SAID, IS WITH THE CHANGE THAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BACK IN 2018.

ACTUALLY IT WAS BACK IN 2015 WAS WHEN THEY STARTED IMPLEMENTING MORE OF THE STRINGENT FOR LIKE, FIRE ALARMS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

AND THEN 2018 ACROSS THE BOARD STATEWIDE WITH, FLORIDA WITH AHCA ON THE HEALTH CARE SIDE, REQUIRED THAT, EVERY SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT WHEN YOU DO A CHANGE OF USE HAS, IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A UNDER NFPA 13 D FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME SPRINKLER SYSTEM. AND WITH THAT, IT ALSO MEANS THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, THE FIRE ALARM SYSTEM, A COMMERCIAL FIRE ALARM SYSTEM AS WELL.

THAT SYSTEM HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.

ANY OF THAT. AND THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD, EXCEPT FOR, FOSTER HOMES AND GROUP HOMES, AND THOSE KICK IN AT A CERTAIN NUMBER.

IT'S LIKE ANYTHING OVER SEVEN PERSONS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THOSE, BUT ANYTHING LESS BUT ANYTHING WITH, YOU KNOW, AS YOU BROUGHT UP IS, YOU KNOW, ALFS AND, THE CARE HOMES IS THAT ANY ANYBODY SO YOU CAN HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL, YOU HAVE SIX INDIVIDUALS OR HOWEVER MANY THAT PROPERTY IS RATED FOR OR ALLOWED THROUGH AHCA IS ACROSS THE BOARD.

IT'S REQUIRED. SO WE'RE NOT ADDING ANYTHING IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S ALREADY EXIST.

THIS THIS WON'T REQUIRE FOR THE HOMEOWNER TO ADD ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE CODE, RIGHT? BY THE STATE, CORRECT? I MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN OFF TANGENT A LITTLE BIT, I APOLOGIZE.

IS WHEN WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY ASK TO TRY TO OPEN IT, WHAT REQUIREMENTS ARE NEEDED IS WE KIND OF JUST REFER THEM TO THE CODE, AND OUR CODE BOOK IS THAT BIG. AND SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF BRINGING IT TO THE ORDINANCE.

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THIS IS WHAT THE CODE IS. THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE REQUIRED.

AND THEY SAY, OH, WELL, MY FRIEND SAYS, I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS, DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

WELL, IT'S SET IN STONE.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS PER THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE THAT WE ENFORCE.

AND NOW IT'S AN ORDINANCE.

SO IT'S KIND OF GIVES SOME EXTRA BITE FOR WHEN THEY TRY TO ARGUE THE FIRE CODE, BECAUSE THEY SAY IN THE BOOK IT SAYS THE AUTHORITY HAVING JURISDICTION.

SO MYSELF AND THE FIRE MARSHAL OR THE FIRE CHIEF COULD SAY, NO, ACTUALLY YOU'RE GOOD BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU THAT LITTLE EXTRA ROOM TO USE YOUR JUDGMENT ON IT, WHERE THIS IS LIKE IT'S SET IN STONE.

AND IT JUST KIND OF HELPS US TO GET THIS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE, AS I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN INTO ANY OF THEM.

I'M ACTUALLY IN THE LINE AT STATION THREE, WHICH IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF OUR ALFS ARE.

THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT.

ABLE TO GET OUT OF THESE HOUSES ON THEIR OWN.

THEY MAY HAVE ONE STAFF MEMBER, TWO STAFF MEMBER, BUT YOU HAVE SIX PEOPLE.

HALF OF THEM ARE BEDRIDDEN.

SO THIS IS WHY THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS SYSTEM IS THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID, IT'S JUST NOT SO MUCH CHANGING IT.

WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANY EXTRA WORDS.

YOU KNOW, ONE THING IN THE ORDINANCE, WE DID WRITE UP, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, IT WAS JUST TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS FUTURE BUSINESS OWNER OR HOMEOWNERS TO JUST ACCESS THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY, SO THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IF I, IF I'M BUILDING A DUPLEX, OR A TRIPLEX.

SO THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY APPLY AS LONG AS I'M NOT GOING TO RUN A BUSINESS OUT OF THAT.

SO THOSE ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO IN OUR FIRE CODE, UNDER NFPA 13, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR THE TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, BUT IN THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE, AS WELL AS THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE THAT WE ALSO ENFORCE, IS THAT ANYTHING TWO UNITS OR MORE ATTACHED DWELLINGS IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE SYSTEMS IN PLACE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A DUPLEX, YOU'RE GOOD BECAUSE IT'S ONLY IT FALLS UNDER THE ONE AND TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IF YOU HAVE ONE HOME.

REGARDLESS, IF YOU HAVE A ZERO LOT LINE, YOUR HOUSE IS RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

WE CAN'T FORCE THAT.

BUT IF IT'S ANYTHING OVER THREE, YOU KNOW, OVER TWO UNITS IS THAT'S WHERE THAT.

CODE, IT STARTS TO GO INTO EFFECT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT THEN IT ALSO.

I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CATCH IT.

BUT IT ALSO, IT'S, A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF GET HUNG UP ON THE PRICINGS OF IT.

THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS. SO YOU HAVE A 13 R, 13 D AND A 13, WHICH PRETTY MUCH JUST COMES DOWN TO THE TYPE OF MATERIAL THAT YOU CAN USE.

IF YOU WERE TO OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR ANYTHING, LIKE, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY FOR THE 13 D, BUT SO 13 R OR 13 D ITSELF IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE YOUR ALFS DUPLEXES IF YOU CHOOSE.

WE IN THE STATE DON'T REQUIRE THAT YET, BUT IT IS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE.

THE STATE. THE FLORIDA FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE FLORIDA FIRE MARSHALS ASSOCIATION, IS TRYING TO SLOWLY GET EVERYTHING IN LINE TO REQUIRE IT FOR ANY NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, JUST BECAUSE MATERIALS THAT ARE BUILT INTO IT, THE STUFF THAT PEOPLE ARE BRINGING INTO IT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER WITH, YOU KNOW, THE RESPONSES, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE ENGINES OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, ME ACTUALLY DRIVING THE ENGINE GOING OUT IN THE STRUCTURE FIRES, YOU KNOW, PHYSICALLY SEE JUST HOW FAST THESE BURN UP.

SO THAT'S WHY WE AS A STATE ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THIS BECAUSE WE CAN TRY OUR HARDEST TO GET STATIONS CLOSE.

WE CAN GET THERE AS FAST AS WE CAN SAFELY.

BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE MATERIAL THAT IS THERE AND THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT IT WILL EVENTUALLY, WITHIN THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS WILL BE A REQUIREMENT.

BUT THEN GOING INTO THE 13, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS FOR LIKE LOW RISE, APARTMENTS, CONDOS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOUR STORIES OR LESS.

AND THEN YOU START TO THEN GET INTO THE LARGE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, 13 RATED SYSTEMS, WHICH ARE THE BIG ONES WITH THE BIG BACKFLOW PREVENTERS YOU SEE EVERYWHERE.

SO IT'S THERE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU BUILD, LIKE IT KIND OF TIES, IT KIND OF FOLLOWS TO WHAT DESIGN AND WHAT MATERIAL YOU'RE ALLOWED TO USE.

FROM PVC PIPE ALL THE WAY TO THE FULL GAUGE STEEL.

YOU KNOW, THAT HAS TO BE IN THERE.

SO THANK YOU.

OF COURSE. GOOD. THANK YOU.

YEP. WAS THAT YOU PULLED THAT ITEM, SIR? YES, YES. OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NO, I JUST WANT IT ON THE RECORD.

MAYOR. JUST THIS THIS CAN BE MISCONSTRUED.

SO, SOMEBODY THAT I'VE HAD CALL CONCERN WITH CALLS AND FOLKS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING INTO THIS LINE OF BUSINESS, THAT, YOU KNOW, EXPRESSED SOME CONCERN IN TERMS OF THE HIGHER COST.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO TO SHED SOME LIGHT ON, ON THE NEW LANGUAGE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, CLEANUP ITEM.

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SO JUST FOR SAKE OF CLARITY, I JUST WANTED TO TO BE ON THE RECORD.

WELL, I LOVE THAT YOU PUT THE SAFETY COMPONENT TO THIS.

IT'S REALLY CRUCIAL TO TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE WELL-BEING.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTH STREET SOUTHWEST, $250,000. VERY NICE GRANT.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT COMING IN.

GENERATES A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, THOUGH.

ONE, WHEN WILL WE SEE THE NEW CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THIS? BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THE NEW ONE IS.

TWO WHERE WILL THE PARKING BE FOR THIS NEW AMPHITHEATER? AND THREE IS THERE ANY WAY CAN WE MODIFY THE BRIDGE THAT CROSSES OVER FROM THE MONUMENT TO A MITTEN ROAD? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE COMING HEADING NORTH, YOU WANT TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN.

IF ANYBODY'S EVEN HUGGING THE YELLOW LINE THERE AND YOU'RE IN A PICKUP TRUCK LIKE MINE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM TO LEAVE.

OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO CLIP THEM OR THE GUARDRAIL.

AND SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO OPEN THIS UP AS AN AMPHITHEATER, WE MIGHT NEED TO ADDRESS PART OF THE TRAFFIC GOING OUT ONTO MITTEN ROAD IF WE'RE INCREASING THE FLOW HERE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL THANK YOU. FIRST I'LL START, MASTER CHIEF, THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU PULLED THIS OUT THAT WE WERE GOING TO PULL THIS ITEM OURSELVES.

MADAM SHERMAN. CARRY ON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I BELIEVE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU JUST HEARD, WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. SO JULIETTE MOSCONI, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, WILL DO A BRIEF UPDATE FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.

GOOD EVENING. JULIETTE MOSCONI, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN, FOR THE INTRO TO MY PRESENTATION.

MA'AM, COULD YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE? OKAY. HOW'S THAT? YES, MA'AM. THERE YOU GO.

THERE WE GO. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME UPDATES TO SACRIFICE PARK.

AND I ALSO NOTED MR. BRATTON'S QUESTION, SO I'LL BE SURE TO ADDRESS THOSE AS WELL.

SO JUST FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE WATCHING THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH SACRIFICE PARK, IT'S ALMOST DIRECTLY BEHIND US HERE.

IT IS A MEMORIAL THAT WE CONSTRUCTED A LITTLE OVER 20 YEARS AGO TO HONOR THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE AND GAVE THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

IT IS ON TWO PARCELS.

IT'S ON OUR PARCEL HERE AT CITY HALL, BUT IT'S ALSO ON THE COUNTY'S PARCEL AT DEGROOT LIBRARY.

AND WE HAVE A 99 YEAR LEASE AGREEMENT SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN, SACRIFICE, PARK AND IMPROVE IT.

THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT IS TO REPLACE THE EXISTING MEMORIAL AND MAKE IT INTO A REMEMBRANCE DESTINATION.

I MADE THIS MAP SO I APOLOGIZE FOR IT IN ADVANCE.

I AM, DREW A LITTLE TRIANGLE ABOUT ROUGHLY WHERE THE PARK IS RIGHT NOW.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE TWO THINGS.

ONE, IT'S NOT TRIANGULAR SHAPED AND THAT IT'S NOT PEAKED IN THE CORNERS, WHICH I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU ON ANOTHER GRAPHIC.

AND THEN THE LAND TO THE WEST BETWEEN THE CANAL AND THE ORANGE LINE, ALTHOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S LOTS OF ADDITIONAL PARK AND LAND SPACE THAT'S ACTUALLY DRY RETENTION, AND WE CANNOT CONSTRUCT ON THAT PROPERTY.

WE'VE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF FUN FUNDRAISING EFFORTS.

THIS MEMORANDUM IS ABOUT THE MOST RECENT EDITION, BUT PREVIOUSLY, THROUGH THE MAYOR'S BALL, $109,000 WAS RAISED FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND YOU RECENTLY APPROVED A AGREEMENT WITH FDLE FOR $150,000 LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION THAT WE RECEIVED.

SO THROUGH THE VERY GRACIOUS SUPPORT OF THE BREVARD COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, WE WERE ABLE TO SECURE AN ADDITIONAL $250,000.

THERE IS NO MATCH REQUIREMENT FROM EITHER OF THOSE LAST TWO GRANT ITEMS. SO WE'RE JUST SHY OF $511,000 IN CURRENT FUNDING.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DISTINGUISH HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AND ENGINEERING.

CONCEPTUAL DESIGN AT THIS POINT IS ESSENTIALLY DONE.

AND TO MR. BATTEN'S POINT, THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE HASN'T REALLY CHANGED.

IT'S STILL GOING TO HAVE AN OBELISK.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A THIN BLUE LINE LIGHT FEATURE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE PAVERS THAT ARE ENGRAVABLE FOR FUTURE DONATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE A FLAGPOLE.

IT'S GOING TO HAVE UPLIGHTING.

ALL OF THE FEATURES THAT ARE IN THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN HAVEN'T CHANGED.

WE ARE STILL WORKING THOUGH ON ENGINEERING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY PERMIT AND BUILD THIS PROJECT.

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THEY ARE DOING THE STRUCTURAL AND ELECTRICAL DESIGN.

WE TEND INTEND TO MODIFY THEIR CONTRACTS TO INCREASE IT, TO HAVE THEM SERVE FULLY AS THE ENGINEER OF RECORD.

SO THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR ALL PERMITTING ACTIVITIES, THE CONTRACTING AND SOLICITATION PROCESS TO ANSWER CONTRACTOR QUESTIONS AND TO ALSO DO CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.

SO BASICALLY BE OUR SECOND SET OF EYES ON THE GROUND AS IT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED.

I DON'T HAVE A COST YET FOR THAT, BUT I PROVIDED THE OTHER FIGURES HERE IN THE PRESENTATION.

IT'S ABOUT $36,000 THUS FAR.

SO THESE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS HAVEN'T CHANGED AND I'LL PAGE THROUGH THEM.

BUT THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE THAT'S DIFFERENT IS THE TWO PAVILIONS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN THE BACKGROUND.

THOSE WILL BE ELIMINATED, BUT OTHERWISE IT'S PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY AS SHOWN IN THESE DRAWINGS.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE.

HOWEVER, TO MAXIMIZE THE AVAILABLE EVENT SPACE, HERE IS MADE SOME PLAN MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO PIVOT THE, MEMORIAL STRUCTURE, WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO REPLACE JUST WHERE THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AND WALKWAY WERE. WE'RE GOING TO PIVOT PIVOT IT 90 DEGREES TO THE EAST, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DEMOLISH ALL THE EXISTING SMALL PAVILIONS, WHICH AREN'T REALLY FUNCTIONAL RIGHT NOW. AND WE'LL BE ADDING AN AMPHITHEATER OR EVENT PAVILION.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A VISUAL OF THAT FOR YOU, ALMOST LIKE A COMBINATION STRUCTURE TO THE SITE.

AND THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS WE WANT TO MAXIMIZE THE EVENT SPACE SO THAT WE CAN HOLD LARGER EVENTS HERE AND ALSO GENERATE TOURISM FROM OUT OF THE COUNTY, WHICH IS PART OF THE DIRECTIVE FROM THE BREVARD COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS CAPITAL FACILITIES GRANT.

I'M JUST GOING TO STOP HERE TO ANSWER ONE QUESTION FROM MR. BATTEN REGARDING PARKING.

THE INTENT IS TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING PARKING HERE ON CAMPUS.

WE ALREADY DO HOLD LARGE EVENTS HERE.

WE HOLD OUR PARADES.

THIS IS A MAJOR STOP FOR PARADES, BOTH QUEUING UP FOR THE VETERANS PARADE AND TO WATCH IT FOR THE HOLIDAY LIGHT PARADE.

WE HAVE OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING HERE.

WE WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ADDING PARKING TO THE CAMPUS FOR BUILDING E, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PARKING, AND THAT'S PART OF OUR CODE REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE'LL ACTUALLY BE INCREASING THE PARKING HERE ON CAMPUS.

SO THIS IS WHAT I HAVE TO SHOW YOU.

THAT'S NEW.

LET'S SEE IF THIS. OKAY, SO THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PIVOT TO THE EAST.

SO HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GRAYED OUT PORTION, THAT'S THE CURRENT STRUCTURE, THE CURRENT SIDEWALKS, ALL OF THAT WILL BE DEMOED.

AND INSTEAD OF REPLACING THAT WITH THE NEW MEMORIAL, WE WILL BE MOVING IT TO THE EAST.

AND THEN I JUST ADDED, YOU KNOW, A VERY ROUGH HERE TRIANGLE TO REPRESENT THE AMPHITHEATER.

AND HERE'S KIND OF A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT FROM ONE OF OUR, PREFABRICATED AMPHITHEATER AND PAVILION PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH QUITE FREQUENTLY.

THESE ARE REALLY COOL.

THEY'RE IN KITS, THEY COME READY TO BE ERECTED AND, WHAT? AND THEY'RE ALREADY PREFABRICATED AND ENGINEERED AS WELL.

AND OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES TEAM HAVE EXPERIENCE ERECTING THESE THEMSELVES.

OR WE WORK WITH CONTRACTORS IN THE AREA THAT ARE EXPERIENCED DIRECTING THESE.

THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY IS THE ONE THAT PROVIDED MOST OF THE PAVILIONS AND MOST OF THE COUNTY PARKS THAT YOU'LL FIND IN BREVARD COUNTY.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COST ESTIMATES.

SO ALL THESE FIGURES ARE VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY.

WE DON'T HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DONE ENGINEERING THE PROJECT.

BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A PROBABLE OPINION OF COST FROM THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGNER PLACE CREATIONS.

THAT WAS A LITTLE OVER $400,000.

I'VE ESCALATED IT ROUGHLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS CONVERSATION BY ABOUT 10% TO $445,000.

I'VE ESTIMATED SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING FEES, KNOWING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO SIG'S TASK ORDER.

I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE COST WILL BE FOR DEMOLITION AND ANY ADDITIONAL SITE WORK THAT'S GOING TO BE TO BE DETERMINED AT THIS TIME.

AND THEN I'VE GIVEN YOU A VERY BROAD RANGE OF EVENT PAVILIONS AND AMPHITHEATERS.

BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE ONE I JUST SHOWED YOU IS MORE LIKE IN THE $115,000 RANGE.

WELL, MA'AM, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU RIGHT HERE.

WHEN YOU SPEAK OF DEMOLITION, I SPEAK OF REVERENCE AND REMOVING THE NAMES, AND HAVING A CEREMONY, IN PARTICULAR FOR OFFICERS GROGAN AND JOHNSON.

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THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND THEN HOW WE REMOVE THE ADDITIONAL NAMES, AND PASS THEM ON TO BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THOSE RESPECTIVE AGENCIES THAT ARE HONORED, THUS FAR. ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

NOT AND I IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT AND WE WILL BE SURE TO DO IT IN A REVERENT AND RESPECTFUL WAY AND HAVE A CEREMONY.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT DEMOLITION, I'M THINKING ABOUT KNOCKING DOWN THE PAVILIONS, WHICH, BY THE WAY, WE COULD DO THAT PART IN HOUSE.

ONE THING YOU MENTIONED MENTIONED OFFICERS JOHNSON AND GROGAN, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MENTION IS THE INTENT IS TO NAME THIS PAVILION AS THE OFFICER JOHNSON AND GROGAN MEMORIAL PAVILION.

WE HAVE A CODE AND A PROCESS FOR THIS.

IT GOES THROUGH OUR RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, BUT THAT IS THE CITY'S INTENT AT THIS TIME.

LASTLY, I WANT TO PROVIDE YOU A VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY TIMELINE.

I SAY IT'S VERY PRELIMINARY BECAUSE THE VERY FIRST ITEM THERE DRIVES THE REST OF THE TIMELINE, WHICH IS THE RECEIPT OF THE COMPLETE ENGINEERED DESIGN, SO THAT WE CAN SUBMIT IT FOR PERMITTING AND GO OUT FOR, FOR BID, IF YOU WILL, THROUGH PROCUREMENT.

SO I'VE GIVEN A RANGE FOR PERMITTING AS WELL.

ONE OF THE UNKNOWNS IS WHETHER WE DO REQUIRE BREVARD COUNTY PERMIT OR NOT.

WE HAVE THAT LEASE AGREEMENT.

SO I NEED TO REVIEW THAT AND CONSULT WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM ABOUT WHAT THE POSITION WAS AND PROBABLY CONSULT WITH THE COUNTY AS WELL.

AS LONG AS WE AREN'T MODIFYING THE IMPERVIOUS AREA SIGNIFICANTLY, WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH SAINT JOHN'S, BUT WE WILL NEED CONCURRENCY FROM THEM.

THE PROCUREMENT TIMELINE.

I HAVE ABOUT 60 DAYS IN THERE.

COUNCIL AWARD IN JULY, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE IS NOT THAT LONG.

BUT OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS LEAVE ROOM FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES, WEATHER DELAYS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT I DID WANT TO NOTE THESE PREFABRICATED SHELTERS HAVE A THREE MONTH LEAVE TIME.

MR. BATTEN'S FINAL QUESTION WAS ABOUT MODIFYING THE BRIDGE ONTO MINTON ROAD.

THAT IS, THAT IS THE COUNTY'S PROPERTY.

IT IS THEIR BRIDGE.

WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSULT WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY FORESEE WOULD BE ANY IMPACTS.

BUT WE'RE NOT TREATING THIS AS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO INCREASE TRAFFIC OR ANYTHING LIKE YOU'VE HEARD IN THE PREVIOUS HOUR.

AND THEN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? DEPUTY MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK, IN THIS REGARD, IN PARTICULAR, HOW YOU TOOK THIS ON AND WENT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.

SO I WANTED TO, TO SHARE THAT AND, AND TO THANK EACH AND EVERYONE THAT HAS JOINED US IN THIS VISION.

IT HAS BEEN, A LABOR OF LOVE FOR ME.

FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT.

ON APRIL 23RD, 1987, WE LOST TWO OF OUR OUR FINEST.

AND JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE, WE WERE ONLY 27 YEARS OLD AND WE HAD A MASS SHOOTING WHERE THEY WERE OUTGUNNED, THEY HAD REVOLVERS AND THEY FACED AN INDIVIDUAL WITH AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON.

AND WE HAVE TO HONOR THE BLOOD THAT WAS SHED, BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT'S PART OF THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR GREAT CITY.

AND SO FOR US TO BE AT A POINT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HONOR THE LIVES.

AND I SAID THIS ONCE BEFORE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT SHED THEIR BLOOD ARE PART OF THE VERY FABRIC OF THIS GREAT CITY, AND OUR CITY IS JUST IN ITS INFANCY TO CONTINUE ON, TO BUILD AND DO GREAT THINGS.

I ALWAYS ENVISIONED WHERE THE MEMBERS THAT HAVE SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES FOR OUR CITY AND OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, THAT WE SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE THEIR LOVED ONES THAT WE TRULY CARE.

YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ARE HONORED ON A REALLY MEMORIAL, A MEMORIAL THAT WE COULD TRULY BE PROUD OF.

AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED, COUNCIL THAT YOU ALL HAVE JOINED US IN THIS VISION.

ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS, THE STATE REPRESENTATIVES, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, THEY SAW THAT THE VALUE TO THIS, OUR STAFF FROM JOHNNY GIANCARLO BROWN TO YOURSELF TO TO EACH AND EVERY MEMBER, CHRISTINA BOURNE LOCKING ARMS WITH THE MAYOR'S BALL.

MADAME SHERMAN, AND I REMEMBER HAVING EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OF NOT ONLY STAFF, BUT SO MANY MEMBERS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HONOR THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR OUR CITY, AND IT IS GOING TO BE.

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NOW, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY MAYOR, I WILL BE PASSING ON THE GAVEL TO MAKE THIS MOTION.

AND AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

SO I SO MOVED THIS PROJECT, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR LOCKING ARMS WITH ME.

SHARING THE VISION.

SACRIFICE PARK IS ABOUT TO BECOME A REALITY.

THE NEW AND IMPROVED SACRIFICE PARK AND I DECLARE IT SO.

SECOND HOORAH! MAYOR, MAYOR.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I'M SORRY. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR, THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE FLAGPOLES AT THIS, AT SACRIFICE PARK? YES, SIR. WE WILL HAVE A FLAGPOLE AND WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ACTUALLY ENGRAVED IN ONE OF THE PANELS.

I COULDN'T HEAR YOU. YOU SAID YOU WILL HAVE FLAGPOLES.

YES, SIR. WE WILL HAVE A FLAGPOLE WITH UPLIGHTING.

AND WE WILL HAVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ENGRAVED IN ONE OF THE PANELS.

OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD.

I WANTED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

GO AHEAD. CARRY ON.

SIR, I MOVED, AND THERE'S A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON COUNCILMAN JOHNSON GIVES A THUMBS UP.

DEPUTY MAYOR, IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO. NO, SIR, I'M READY TO CALL THE QUESTION.

YEAH. SO.

OH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I IS THERE. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE JUST A LITTLE MORE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO HONOR, THERE'S A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THIS. AND IS IT OKAY IF I IF THE CHIEF COMES UP AND SHARES THAT? MADAM SHERMAN.

CERTAINLY, AS YOU ARE.

GOOD EVENING. WANTED TO SHARE.

IT'S ON YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

OH, YES. OH, YES.

YEAH. GO. GO AHEAD.

CHIEF. SORRY, DEPUTY.

CITY MANAGER IS TALLER THAN ME, SO I'M JUST GOING TO LOWER THIS A LITTLE BIT.

NO. CHIEF, WOULD YOU, CARE, SHARING THE, MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT WITH THIS WHOLE PROJECT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO, MR. MAYOR AND DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, MISS GUNTHER, YOU GUYS PUT IT PUT IT PERFECTLY.

SO SACRIFICE PARK HAS BEEN HERE FOR FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

AND THE RESULT OF US HAVING SACRIFICED PART WAS THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE THAT OFFICER GROGAN AND JOHNSON, LAY DOWN THEIR LIVES FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BACK IN 1987.

SO, AND MOVING FORWARD THROUGH WITH ANYTHING THAT WE DO.

YOU MENTIONED THE REVOLVERS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT FOR ME, FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN, IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

AND I'LL SAY IT, PUBLIC SAFETY AS A WHOLE, THAT WE HAVE TO EVOLVE AS WELL.

SO WE DID EVOLVE FROM THE REVOLVERS AS A RESULT OF THAT PIVOTAL, TRAGIC INCIDENT THAT DAY.

WE WENT TO SEMI-AUTOMATIC HANDGUNS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY, THANKS TO SERGEANT RETIRED SERGEANT DON SMITH.

SO, TO MOVE FORWARD TO OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMPONENT OF IT.

SO, AS I MENTIONED, THE ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO NOW WHEN I GOT SWORN IN HERE AS POLICE CHIEF, THAT'S ONE OF MY PRIORITIES FOR FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. IS THE MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

AND PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE COLLABORATED WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

TO TRY TO BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT HERE TO PALM BAY, FOR US AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND ORGANIZATION HAS SURVIVED.

FIRST, WHICH THE CEO IS, IS MR. DOUG MONDA, WHO'S ALSO A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER FOR HERE WITHIN THE COUNTY.

SO, YOU KNOW, HE REACHED OUT TO ME, I DON'T KNOW, A MONTH OR TWO AGO AND WANTED TO HAVE PALM BAY TO BE THAT STAPLE, FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR OUR COUNTY, FOR THE STATE, FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

SEEING WHAT WE WERE DOING, TO TRY TO NOT TO, AS AN ADVOCACY FOR ALL THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO BUILD A MONUMENT HERE WITHIN SACRIFICE PARK, TO HONOR THE MEN AND WOMEN IN PUBLIC SAFETY THAT TOOK THEIR OWN LIVES AS A RESULT OF THEIR MENTAL HEALTH, AS A RESULT OF THE TRAUMA THAT THEY ENDURED THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THEIR CAREER.

SO, I FELT HONORED AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE FOR PALM BAY.

AND HE'S A BROTHER OF MINE, YOU KNOW, SO, THAT HE ALSO THAT HE WANTED TO CHOOSE PALM BAY, OUR CITY.

SO I GOT WITH DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, JULIETTE MOSCONI, AND IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.

WE MET ALL TOGETHER A FEW WEEKS BACK OR ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.

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SO THAT IS GREAT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

OUTSTANDING JOB.

AND THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF OUR MEMBERS, OUR STAFF MEMBERS THAT WERE PART OF THIS.

SO NOW WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

[NEW BUSINESS]

AND I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE GET BACK INTO THAT.

SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK IT ALLOWS TWO PEOPLE I'LL ASK, MISS TERESE TO DISCUSS HOW IT WORKS.

SO THAT WAY WE WE'RE ABLE TO AT LEAST 1 OR 2 OF US ARE ABLE TO ATTEND THESE MONTHLY MEETINGS.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR, I DID CONFIRM THAT, THE INVITATION TO JOIN CIV MIL IS ONLY OFFERED TO THE MAYOR.

AS A MEMBER OF THE ORGANIZATION, YOU ARE PERMITTED TO BRING A GUEST.

THE ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE OF $485 DOES INCLUDE THAT GUEST.

IT INCLUDES THE ADMIN COST, THE MONTHLY DINNER MEETINGS.

BUT IT WOULD ONLY BE JUST FOR THE MAYOR.

MEANING, I CAN BRING A GUEST, A COUNCIL MEMBER.

I CONFIRMED WITH, THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL THAT ONCE PER YEAR YOU COULD BRING A STAFF MEMBER OR A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO JUST RECONFIRM THAT BECAUSE I WAS GIVEN CONFLICTING INFORMATION.

BECAUSE ONE ONE PERSON SAYS THAT IT'S FOR, THE MONTHLY MEETINGS IS FOR YOURSELF AND A GUEST, BUT THEN THEY SAY THAT YOU CAN ONLY BRING A GUEST ONCE A YEAR.

SO I WILL CONFIRM THAT, TOMORROW.

OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU.

I WOULD APPRECIATE TO ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AND AND AND BRIEF.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WAS, LIKE, MISS TERESE EXPLAINED TO ME.

I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE TWO OF US.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD STILL I WOULD STILL REQUEST THIS ITEM BE MOVED.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR. MR. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD ORGANIZATION IF WE CAN KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND YOU SEEM LIKE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THAT.

I HAD THE SAME CONCERN, THOUGH, WHEN I SAW THAT IT WAS AN INVITE FOR THE MAYOR, INSTEAD OF AN INVITE FOR THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I HAD THAT SAME CONCERN.

SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE WAY HE IS, I'M THINKING, WELL, GEE, SINCE THE INVITE WAS FOR THE MAYOR.

THEN THE MAYOR WAS ENTITLED TO AN EXPENSE ACCOUNT, EVEN THOUGH THE MAYOR DOES NOT TAKE HIS EXPENSE ACCOUNT, WHICH I APPRECIATE.

YOU MADE YOUR POINT, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT THIS WOULD BE THE PERFECT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU AS A, AS A PRIVATE, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, YOU COULD JOIN ON YOUR OWN OWN DIME. I KNOW IT'S ONLY $485, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

THAT EXPENSE ACCOUNT TYPE OF THING WOULD BE GOOD.

THEY INVITED YOU PERSONALLY, SO I'D SEE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT.

I WOULD JUST UPSET THAT IT WASN'T INVITED TO THE CITY, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE BEHIND CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WHAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GOT DINNER SERVED, BUT YOU'RE STILL YOUR CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

SO. WHO KNOWS WHAT'S TALKED ABOUT? WHO KNOWS? YOU PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SHARE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IF YOU'RE DOING IT AS A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL, I WOULD SEE NO CONFLICT IN THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF AND YOU'RE USING YOUR OWN MONEY FOR IT.

WELL, THAT'S MY POINT OF VIEW ON IT, AND I'M SORRY THAT IT WASN'T OPEN TO ALL, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN I HEARD THAT YOU COULDN'T BRING A GUEST.

BUT ONCE A YEAR.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

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THIS ORGANIZATION IS OPEN TO TO LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND MOST OF THEM ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

AS I'M SURE YOU'RE AWARE, IT IS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, BUT THEY DO NOT DISCUSS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.

I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THEY WOULDN'T DISCUSS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, BUT THEY DO SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON AT THE BASE.

YOU GET TO MEET INDIVIDUALS, FROM THOSE DIFFERENT COMMANDS.

AND IT'S EVER CHANGING.

AS MOST OF US THAT HAVE SERVED OUR NATION, WE TYPICALLY, CHANGE DUTY STATIONS 2 TO 3 YEARS.

AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP WITHIN PATRICK SPACE FORCE BASE, CAPE CANAVERAL, WHICH INCLUDES CAPE CANAVERAL AIR FORCE OR SPACE FORCE STATION, ALSO THE NAVAL ORDNANCE TESTING UNIT.

SO THERE'S THERE'S THAT COMPONENT, THERE'S DIFFERENT LEADERS FROM WITHIN THOSE BASES, WHICH ARE THE AIR FORCE TECHNICAL APPLICATIONS CENTER.

SO THERE'S DIFFERENT COMMANDS THAT THE LEADERS FROM THE NINE 20TH RESCUE WING, THEY ALL CONGREGATE, THEY ALL MEET.

THEY DO PROVIDE, UNCLASSIFIED BRIEFS, TO BE A LITTLE MORE, EXPLICIT.

SO A PRIVATE CITIZEN CANNOT JOIN, THE ONES THAT ARE THIS INVITATION IS EXTENDED SPECIFICALLY TO ELECTED OFFICIALS.

SO, ROB MEDINA, THE PRIVATE CITIZEN, COULD NOT ATTEND THESE MEETINGS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

THESE ARE EXTENDED TO LOCAL LEADERS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, LEADERS OF THE BASE AND, THE LEADERS OF THE CIVIL ORGANIZATION.

SO I HOPE THAT THAT EXPLAINS THE DETAIL FURTHER.

I WOULDN'T BE GETTING AN INVITATION IF I WAS JUST ROB MEDINA.

AND IT'S ALWAYS THE MAYOR, OR TYPICALLY IT'S THE MAYOR THROUGHOUT ANY MUNICIPALITY WITHIN OUR COUNTY.

AND THAT'S WHO YOU'LL SEE AT THESE BRIEFINGS.

BUT WITH THAT.

MAYOR, I HAD A QUESTION SIMILAR TO LIKE YOU HAVE THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES OR OTHER, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE A PART OF THAT WERE PARTNERED WITH, IN THE EVENT THAT SAY, YOU'RE IN LIKE HOW YOU WERE AT THE, ANTI-SEMITISM.

EVENT IN THAT. IN THAT CASE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR THE DEPUTY MAYOR TO STEP IN? SO THAT WAY, AT LEAST IN THAT MONTH? WE HAVE SOME REPRESENTATION.

NO, I'M IN AGREEMENT. IF I CAN'T MAKE IT THAT THERE'S GOT TO BE A THERE'S GOT TO BE, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ONE OF ONE OF US, ONE TO INCLUDE EVEN, COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WHEN HE'S ABLE TO.

SO I'D LIKE TO TO ASK TERESE, I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW THAT THIS HAPPENED BEFORE.

SO, TERESE, AS FAR AS YOUR KNOWLEDGE IS CONCERNED, WERE THERE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE FORMER MAYOR WASN'T ABLE, WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND, AND, AND WE HAD THE DEPUTY MAYOR ATTEND, OR WAS THAT AN ISSUE? THAT THE LAST TIME THAT WE WERE MEMBERS WITH SYSML WAS BACK IN 2013, AND I DO RECALL WE WERE MEMBERS WITH THEM YEARS PRIOR TO THAT, BUT IT WAS ONLY THE MAYOR AT THAT TIME THAT DID ATTEND, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF THE MAYOR, WERE WAS THE INVITATION TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

I DO NOT RECALL ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ATTENDING.

OKAY. WAS THAT? WAS THAT BY CHOICE, OR WAS THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST A MAYOR? I DON'T RECALL, SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT I'VE SEEN THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE MAYOR OF WEST MELBOURNE A TURN.

IN THE PAST, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO SIEVE MILL IN AT LEAST.

18. TO 24 MONTHS, PERHAPS EVEN LONGER.

AND THERE'S A REASON THAT I HAVEN'T ATTENDED.

OF COURSE, I'M NOT A PRIVATE, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE CITIZENS CAN'T GO.

BUT THE INVITATION HAS COME IN THE PAST, AND I DECIDED NOT TO BRING THIS UP.

SO THIS TIME, SINCE I HAVEN'T BEEN IN SUCH A LONG TIME, I THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REENGAGE, HAVE THE CITY ENGAGE AFTER I CONSULTING WITH THERESA AND FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY.

AND I DO REMEMBER, LIKE, EARLY 2002, I BELIEVE THE MAYOR AT THAT TIME WE WOULD GO.

SO I BELIEVE WAS IT MAYOR CAPOTE THAT USED TO GO, MA'AM? NO, THAT WAS MAZZIOTTI MAZZIOTTI.

IT WAS MY. DID CAPOTE EVER GO? NO, NO.

OKAY, SO MAYOR MAZZIOTTI USED TO GO.

I REMEMBER SEEING THAT, BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS A LOT YOUNGER.

OKAY, SO.

BUT, MAYOR, I WILL ASK THAT OF THE ORGANIZATION AS WELL.

IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND, IF ANYBODY ELSE COULD GO.

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OKAY. I'M FINE WITH.

IT'S TYPICALLY THE FOURTH THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.

DID I REMEMBER THAT CORRECTLY OR.

I BELIEVE SO IT'S USUALLY SO IT WOULDN'T, CONFLICT WITH OUR MEETINGS.

ALL RIGHT. SO I WOULD I WOULD NEED A MOTION EITHER WAY.

GENTLEMAN SECOND.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, MAYOR, BECAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MIGHT SCHEDULE STUFF ON A THURSDAY OR WE MIGHT BE TIED TO SOMETHING ELSE.

OR YOU MIGHT BE TIED TO SOMETHING ELSE.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, ESPECIALLY, THE BALL WITH NOT SAYING THE BALL WAS DROPPED, BUT WITH MALABAR ANNEX, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED WE HAD CONVERSATIONS A FEW YEARS AGO.

IT WAS LOOKING OPTIMISTIC.

SO THIS MIGHT BE A CHANCE TO KIND OF REVITALIZE THAT TOO.

SO THAT'S ALL MAYOR.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU BRING AN EXCELLENT POINT BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO DELTA TEN IS ABOUT TO COME TO PATRICK SPACE FORCE BASE.

RIGHT. THAT'S THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE SPACE FORCE.

SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT'S THE FUTURE PLANS FOR THE ANNEX IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ENGAGING IN.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, DEPUTY MAYOR.

ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK.

OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

IS HE ON? HE IS.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER I DIDN'T GET YOUR YOUR VOTE, I SAY AGAIN.

HE DID SAY I. OKAY, COPY THAT PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP FRANK WATANABE, OUR CITY ENGINEER.

HE AND I WILL GO THROUGH A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO COUNCIL ON THE ROAD BOND PAVING PROGRAM.

ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS FOR THIS UPDATE IS NOT JUST TO BRING EVERYONE UP TO SPEED, BUT ALSO TO TALK ABOUT OUR FUNDING STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THE SHORTFALL THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN STILL COMPLETE ALL THE ROADS.

FRANK. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU AGAIN.

GOOD EVENING. FRANK WATANABE, THE CITY ENGINEER, AND IT'S TIME FOR US TO GO OVER OUR UPDATE.

I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THE OVERALL ROAD BOND PROGRAM, AS WE ALL KNOW, $150 MILLION.

IT WAS BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2018.

WE USE WHAT WE CALL BACK THEN, THE PCI, WHICH IS A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX TO ASSESS ALL THE ROADS TO DEVELOP LIKE A MASTER PLAN, WHICH ACCOUNTS APPROVED.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE MAGIC NUMBER IS THE 791 MILES.

THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

THAT WAS FROM THE ORIGINAL STUDY.

THAT 791 MILES DOES EXCLUDE THE COMPOUND, WHICH IS THE UNITS 51 5253.

AND I'LL GO OVER THAT SOME MORE.

IT WAS A FIVE PHASES, EIGHT YEAR CONSTRUCTION, AS PER THE BOND, WE BROKE THE CITY INTO QUADRANTS.

AND THE COUNCIL IN THAT PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PHASES, DETERMINE THE EQUITABLE WAY TO DISTRIBUTE IT DURING THE, THE FIVE PHASES.

AND I HAVE THE MAPS TO GO OVER THAT AS MUCH.

AND THEN WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NO PIPES, NO PAVING, ALL FOR THE PAVING.

AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED IN THE TOOLS WHAT TYPE OF TOOLS FOR THE TREATMENT.

AND THESE THESE REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED MUCH.

WE TALKED ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION, FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION.

AND I HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, MILL AND PAVE THIN LEFT OVERLAY AND AND MICRO SURFACING AND MICRO SURFACING WAS ADDED IN THE SECOND YEAR.

AND I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT MICRO SURFACING SOME MORE IN DETAIL BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD NEWS AND GOOD SUCCESS.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM LINE, WE USED IN-HOUSE ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION STAFF.

SO THAT KIND OF SUMS UP THE OVERALL PROCESS, THE TREATMENT AGAIN I HIGHLIGHTED FROM THE TOP TO BOTTOM.

WORST CASE IS RECONSTRUCTION.

WE HAVE TO BUILD THE WHOLE ROAD, TEAR IT DOWN TO THE, THE SUBBASE, BUILD THE BASE, PUT THE WHOLE NEW ASPHALT IN PURE RECONSTRUCTION.

HYBRID OF THAT WOULD BE WHAT THEY CALL A DEEP LIFT AC.

WE USE A LOT MORE AC, WHICH IS LIKE 4 TO 5IN.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT WHERE SOME OF THE COMPANIES WHO DON'T HAVE AND DON'T WANT TO DO THE APPLICATION, YOU CAN USE DEEP LIFT APPLICATIONS.

IT IS AN ESTABLISHED PROCESS.

FDOT USES IT AS WELL.

AND WE TRIED IT ON A FEW STREETS, AS IN COMPARISON WITH THE EQUAL COST FOR AN FDR PROCESS.

THE SECOND ONE IS THE FULL DEPTH RECOMMENDATION.

THE REASON WHY IT WORKS FOR US SO WELL IS BECAUSE OF OUR SAY, IT'S OUR WATER TABLE, AND MOST OF OUR CITY HAS A LOT OF WATER BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE.

AND SO WE HAVE TO THEN ADD CEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THAT BASE MATERIAL.

SO THAT'S WHY FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION IS IS USED QUITE OFTEN A LOT OF THESE GDC CITIES BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE MATERIAL, THE SOIL.

SO BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE ADD IN THE CEMENT, WE ADD IN SOME EMULSION, WE PULVERIZE WITH THE EXISTING ASPHALT, AND WE RECLAIM AND REUSE THE MATERIAL.

AND THEN THAT BECOMES THE NEW BASE.

AND THEN WE WE PAVE ON TOP OF THAT.

THAT BECOMES THE FDR PROCESS.

THE OTHER ITEMS ARE LIKE MILL AND PAVE STANDARD.

YOU MILL THE OLD ASPHALT, YOU PAVE ON TOP OF IT, THIN LIFT OVERLAYS.

IT'S JUST BASIC OVERLAY IN THE ROAD.

AND THEN THE BOTTOM LINE IS MICRO SURFACING.

AND AGAIN, JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN.

IN THE SECOND YEAR WE DID SOME MICRO SURFACING.

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YEAH IT WORKED OUT GREAT.

THEN WE WENT TO UNIT 17 AND 46 AND WE DID A LOT MORE OF MICRO SURFACING.

AND SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER, THE MIX AND THE APPLICATION DID NOT WORK WELL FOR US.

AND SO WE HAD ISSUES WITH THESE TIRE DIVOTS.

AND I MEAN, IF YOU RECALL, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, IT WAS AN ISSUE.

THE MATERIAL WAS STILL THERE, THE MICRO SURFACING WAS STILL THERE AND APPLIED.

HOWEVER, WE LEFT ALL THESE MARKS ON, ON THE ROADWAYS, WHICH WASN'T PLEASING.

SO WE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, A LOT OF ISSUES.

THE COMPANY CAME OUT NUMEROUS TIMES, TRIED TO FIX IT, JUST COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.

I WENT AND CHECKED OUT OTHER CITIES, OTHER AGENCIES, MOST OF THEM NEVER HAD THE SEVERITY THAT WE HAD.

AND SO WE ASSUMED IT WAS SOMETHING WITH THE MIX.

AND SO WE PUT IT ALL KIND OF ON THE, ON THE BACK BURNER AND MOVED FORWARD WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER TREATMENTS.

AND I'LL GO OVER THE NEW ADVANCED AND MICRO SURFACING ON A FEW SLIDES LATER, JUST AGAIN, TO HIGHLIGHT THE OVERALL TECHNOLOGY FOR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT IS YOU HAVE THIS CHART WHERE YOU HAVE THE YEARS.

THIS IS ON THE BOTTOM SCALE, WHICH IS 20 YEARS A STANDARD ROADWAY LIFE OF A ROADWAY 20 YEARS.

AND THEN AS YOU GO UP THE OF THE CHAIN, YOU HAVE THE MOST, EARLY ON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS REJUVENATION.

THEN YOU GO INTO THE GREEN AND YOU GO INTO THE YELLOW AND YOU GO INTO THE RED.

AND OF COURSE, THE RED WOULD BE WHEN THE RED WOULD FALL APART.

SO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO TRY TO CAPTURE YOUR IMPROVEMENTS UP IN THE HIGHER WHERE CIRCLED IN RED, WHICH IS THE BLUE GREEN WHICH YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO DO REJUVENATION, MICRO SURFACING, THIN LIFT OVERLAYS.

YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO SOME SORT OF TREATMENT EARLY ON SO YOU DON'T FALL INTO THE FREEZE AND THEN TO THE RECONSTRUCTION.

SO THAT GIVES YOU THE BANG FOR THE BUCK IN THE OVERALL.

PROCESS. AND WE'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ROAD PROGRAM.

THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IS THE NEXT PROGRAM WE APPROVED BACK IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE ROAD PROGRAM.

THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT TAKES CARE AFTER THE, AFTER THE ROAD PROGRAM.

BUT WE'VE BEEN ALREADY APPLYING THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IN THE SECOND YEAR.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN ON THIS TABLE GRAPH.

THERE'S VARIOUS MATRIX IN TERMS OF ROAD PROGRAMS AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. BUT BASICALLY THE TREATMENT IS YOU WANT TO USE THE FULL TOOLBOX OF TREATMENTS.

YOU WANT TO USE AS MUCH AS YOU WANT EARLY ON, LIKE THE REJUVENATION, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING SINCE THE START, WE'VE BEEN REJUVENATING.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT YOU, RIGHT NOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY REJUVENATING STREETS RIGHT AS WE SPEAK.

TODAY WE ARE BACK, OUR CONTRACTOR IS BACK, AND THEY'RE REJUVENATING STREETS AND UNITS 24 AND 25.

SO WE'RE IN THAT CYCLE TO REJUVENATE AS AS MANY STREETS AS WE CAN AS WE GET THESE BUNDLED GROUPS DONE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S SHOWN ON THAT GRAPH HERE.

AND SO WE'RE DOING A FAIR JOB.

I'M TRYING TO KEEP THAT PROGRESSION GOING.

EARLY ON WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE BOTTOM HERE.

YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WE SHOULD BE SAVING BETWEEN 3 TO $6 MILLION.

AND AGAIN, THE $6 MILLION IS BECAUSE AS YOU GO FARTHER OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ROADS THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO HAVE SOME MAJOR WORK DONE AGAIN.

ROAD, ROAD PROGRAMS DONE.

ROAD MAINTENANCE IS NEXT.

AND AS WE GET INTO ROAD MAINTENANCE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ROADS THAT WITHIN FIVE, MAYBE TEN YEARS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOME MAJOR WORK DONE, MAJOR WORK, MEANING PROBABLY GOING TO BE A FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE DURING THE ROAD PROGRAM, WE PROBABLY MILLED AND PAVED IT OR WE OVERLAID IT.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME, BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO AN FDR.

SO THAT'S WHY IF YOU SEE ON THE BOTTOM, THERE ARE CERTAIN SEGMENTS THAT SHOWS LIKE A HIGHER NUMBER AND THE FIRST ONE IS GOING TO COME UP.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TO YOU IS COGAN STREET COGAN FROM FROM SANFILIPPO TO BABCOCK, WHICH IS TWO MILES.

IT'S GOING TO NEED THAT FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION.

WE DID A THEY TOOK CARE OF IT.

AND IT'S IN OUR FOURTH YEAR. IT'S ACTUALLY OUR FIFTH YEAR NOW.

BUT WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROGRAM IT FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ROADWAY BECAUSE IT'S SHOWING SIGNS OF DISTRESS.

IT'S SHOWING SIGNS. IF YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE THE TREAD MARKS ARE SHOWING BASE FAILURE.

SO WITHIN A YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROGRAM THAT FOR A ROAD MAINTENANCE FDR, NOT A ROAD PROGRAM.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE AS WE CONTINUE ON.

LIKE ANY PROGRAM, AS ROAD PROGRAM FINISHES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR ROAD MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. AND WITHIN THE ROAD MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME ROADS THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF AT A HIGHER COST.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS OVERALL MATRIX SHOWS.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING PRETTY GOOD.

LIKE SAYING WE'VE BEEN GOING FORWARD WITH OUR REJUVENATION, WITHIN THE OVERALL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

I THINK SUZANNE WANTS TO COVER THIS ONE.

I'LL COVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES.

YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON IS THE, AS FRANK'S MENTIONED, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT GOALS COMING ON THE HEELS OF THE ROAD MAINTENANCE OR EXCUSE ME, THE ROAD BOND PROGRAM IS TO FUND PROPERLY AND PLAN PROPERLY FOR FUTURE ROAD MAINTENANCE.

SO WE NEVER HAVE THE ROADS FALLING INTO A STATE OF DISREPAIR AS THEY THEY HAD WHEN WE STARTED THE PROCESS.

SO JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, BACK IN AUGUST OF 2022, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A NEW FUNDING POLICY STRATEGY FOR PROPERLY INCREASING OVER TIME THE FUNDING THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

TO FRANK'S POINT, THERE'S THIS AVERAGE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SHOULD BE PUTTING IN EACH YEAR, AND WE'RE BUILDING UP TO THAT.

AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THERE WERE A SERIES OF OF ITEMS THAT COUNCIL AGREED TO PRIORITIZE FOR THE FUNDING OF THAT, THAT FUND EACH YEAR.

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SO THE NEXT SLIDE, WILL SHOW YOU OUR PROGRESS THUS FAR.

YOU CAN SEE ESSENTIALLY THE YEAR WE STARTED, 2022, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT $750,000 IN GENERAL FUND REVENUE ALLOCATION, PLUS 1.3 MILLION FROM THE CRA.

THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT $1 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND, PLUS $1 MILLION FROM THE CRA.

AND THEN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THAT TO 2.75 MILLION GENERAL FUND, 1 MILLION BCRA.

SO WE'RE JUST ABOUT AT THAT $4 MILLION MARK.

OUR GOAL IS TO CONTINUE INCREASING EACH YEAR UNTIL WE GET TO THAT, THAT NUMBER THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL WORK FOR US.

BUDGETARILY. SO WE'RE WE'RE PLEASED TO REPORT THAT THAT PROGRESS IS HAPPENING AS, AS REQUESTED.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

SUZANNE. AND THEN TO CONTINUE ON, AS WE TALK ABOUT THE ROAD MAINTENANCE, THE REJUVENATION I HIGHLIGHTED, THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON THIS YEAR, 2024.

THE CONTRACTOR IS ACTUALLY OUT IN UNIT 24 AND 25 REJUVENATE OUR STREETS.

AND SO THOSE ARE THE STREETS THAT WE'LL BE TAKING CARE OF THIS YEAR, ABOUT $1.9 MILLION TOTAL.

AS I STATED AS THEY STARTED THIS WEEK, THEY SHOULD BE DONE WITHIN 90 DAYS.

AND SO THAT'LL BE ANOTHER GROUP OF STREETS THAT WE'LL HAVE REJUVENATED AGAIN.

THIS IS A EARLY TREATMENT.

WE REJUVENATE THE STREETS RIGHT AFTER AFTER WE PAVE IT.

WE WAIT LIKE THREE YEARS AND THEN WE REJUVENATE IT.

AND THEN THE PROCESS WOULD BE IN ABOUT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, WE WILL REJUVENATE IT AGAIN.

SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT YOU RIGHT NOW, NEXT YEAR, EARLY NEXT YEAR, THE PHASE ONE STREETS THAT WE DID LIKE 31, 32 AND ALL THOSE STREETS THAT ARE IN GREAT SHAPE, WE'RE GOING TO.

WE REJUVENATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO REJUVENATE IT AGAIN.

TRY TO EXTEND THAT LINE.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO USE LIKE THESE REJUVENATION MICROSERVICES FOR LIKE FOR A LOW COST TO EXTEND IT THREE, FOUR, FIVE TO PUSH THAT 20 YEAR LINE.

SO MAYBE WE GET A 40 YEAR LIFE OF A ROADWAY INSTEAD OF SAYING PAVE IT, WAIT 20 YEARS, LET IT FALL APART, AND THEN SPEND ANOTHER CHUNK OF MONEY TO DO ANOTHER TRY TO DO IN SMALL PIECES. AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF AGENCIES DO WITH THEIR PROGRAMS IS TRY TO GET THESE EARLY IMPROVEMENTS LIKE REJUVENATION, MICROSERVICES EARLY ON AT A LOWER COST TO EXTEND THAT LIFE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT THIS THAT'S WHAT OUR PROGRAM IS DOING.

AND THEN TO HIGHLIGHT THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MICROSERVICES AND I CALL IT THE THE THE 6% MICROSERVICES.

BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW MICROSERVICES WE HAVE WE APPLIED IT RECENTLY AND UNIT 40 ON THREE STREETS WHICH WAS AGORA, THOR AND MERCURY.

THIS HAS A 6% POLYMER IN IT.

SO IT'S IT'S A LOT MORE IN TERMS OF A EMULSION INTO IT.

SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE STIFFER.

AND THE PROBLEM WE HAD, AGAIN, WE HAD THESE TIRE DIVOTS, IT NEVER, NEVER SOLIDIFIED.

AND SO IT WAS ALWAYS KIND OF SOFT EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICATION WAS THERE.

SO IT WAS PROTECTING THE ACTUAL PAVEMENT.

IT CREATED THOSE DIVOTS FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

AND SO WE WE DID THIS DEMO DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS.

WE'VE BEEN MONITORING IT FOR PAST 30 DAYS AND NOT A MARK.

I MEAN, THERE WERE SOME SCUFFS, SOME LITTLE, YOU KNOW, MARKINGS, BUT NOT LIKE THE CATTLE CROSSING THAT WE HAD LAST TIME.

SO THIS IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR US.

I MEAN, THE MATERIAL WAS NICE LOOKING TO AS WELL.

WE HAD A GREAT SUCCESS WITH THE APPLICATION.

THIS TIME. OUR STAFF WAS OUT THERE IN FULL FORCE.

WE MADE SURE WE DID THE TESTING, THE CALIBRATIONS.

I MADE SURE WE WENT THROUGH EVERY STEP BY THE BOOK PER SPECIFICATION AND WE MET EVERYONE.

WE ACTUALLY PAID EXTRA TO HAVE A QUALITY ASSURANCE DONE THAT CAME IN PERFECT IN OUR CHECK.

AND I'M GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION NEXT MONDAY TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD TO GIVE THEM THE FULL DETAIL, THE FULL BREAKDOWN, AND HOPEFULLY GET THEIR ENDORSEMENT.

BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO NOW IS NOW THAT WE HAVE MICRO SURFACING AND IT'S DOABLE, LET'S GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PLAN, ADD IT BACK AS A TOOL AND GET UNITS 26, 37, 39, 40 DONE THIS EARLY BECAUSE THE KEY FOR MICRO SURFACING, THE COOLER WEATHER, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS THE HOT WEATHER AND THE HUMIDITY DIDN'T WORK WELL FOR US. SO WHAT WE JUST DID RECENTLY WITH THE COOL WEATHER OUT THERE IN UNIT 44, AGORA MERCURY, THEY LOOK GREAT.

AND ACTUALLY THE NEW 6% MICRO.

IT COMES OUT WITH A DARKER COLOR, ALMOST LIKE A BLACK.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE ASPHALT.

AND SO THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WERE VERY HAPPY.

SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT WITH THE UNITS 26, 37, 39, 40.

AND THEN I WANT TO LOOK AT EXPANDING THAT TO WE HAVE MORE STREETS IN PHASE FIVE THAT WE WANT TO NOT DO PAVING, BUT DO MICRO SURFACING AT A LOT MORE COST EFFECTIVE.

THAT MAY SHORTEN THAT WINDOW THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SHORT, YOU KNOW, THE SHORT THAT SUZANNE WILL TALK ABOUT.

SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

SO THE GOOD SUCCESS, HERE'S THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE JUST WE JUST DID OUT THERE IN UNIT 40.

AND AGAIN YOU CAN SEE IT'S A DARKER COLOR, ALMOST BLACK.

AND WITHIN 30 MINUTES IT WAS SOLID.

AND YOU COULD DRIVE AND YOU COULD WALK ON IT.

SO IT'S A VERY QUICK APPLICATION, VERY COST EFFECTIVE APPLICATION.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO START ADDING TO OUR TOOLBOX.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THE OVERALL PROCESS WE'VE DONE, FDR, THIS WAS A PORT MALABAR STANDARD.

FDR, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS FIVE YEAR PROCESS, WE'RE ON OUR FIFTH YEAR, LESSONS LEARNED.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERING IS ENGINEERING, BUT WHEN YOU START DEALING WITH EXISTING CONDITIONS, THERE ARE SO MANY UNFORESEEN THINGS.

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GOOD EXAMPLE OF LESSON LEARNED HERE, PORT MALABAR, WHICH WE NOW KNOW WE'RE GOING TO CHECK FOR WHEN WE DO OUR ANALYSIS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THAT ASPHALT THAT WE CAN MAYBE EARLY IDENTIFY.

AND I'M SAYING THIS BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL LATER ON.

PORT MALABAR, ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY, WAS A VERY THICK OLD PORT MALABAR, WHICH WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS WIDENED.

PORT MALABAR WAS A TWO LANE ROAD, AND THAT OLD TWO LANE ROAD HAD A THICK PIECE OF ASPHALT.

AND SO WHEN WE HAD A MILLET TO DO THE FDR, IT WAS TOO THICK BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY USE SO MUCH OF THE OF THE EXISTING MATERIAL TO MIX IN, TO PULVERIZE IT.

IT WAS WAY TOO MUCH.

SO WE HAD TO PAY A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TO HAVE IT MILLED SEVERAL TIMES IN DEPTH SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A NICE PULVERIZED MATERIAL.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

AND THE TEST WE TOOK, I HATE TO SAY WE MISSED THAT ONE LANE.

SO AGAIN, WE LEARNED SOMETHING.

AGAIN. WE LEARNED FROM OUR SAFE.

AS AS WE'RE DOING THE ROAD PROGRAM, THERE'S THINGS WE'RE LEARNING ALL THE TIME.

MICRO SURFACING, FDR.

SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE DID LEARN SOMETHING.

SO IN FROM THIS POINT ON, WE ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK IF WE HAVE TO DO ANY MORE ADDITIONAL MAILINGS, WHAT THEY CALL A DEMO PASS.

SO YOU GOT TO PAY FOR THAT EXTRA DEMO PASS.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WE INCORPORATE THAT IF WE HAVE TO DO IT.

AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT NOW WE MAKE SURE LIKE COUNTRY CLUB IS GOING TO BE ADVERTISED.

HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WE MAKE SURE NONE OF THOSE TREES NEED TO BE DEMO PATHS.

MILLING IS A HUGE COST NOW COMPARED TO JUST LIKE ASPHALT TO MILL A ROADWAY, THERE'S A VERY HIGH.

I COST A MILLION. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO KEEP THAT UNDER CONTROL AND SEE WHAT IT IS.

SO WE MAKE SURE WE WE PLAN IT AND WE DESIGN IT AND WE PROGRAM IT CORRECTLY.

SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT LESSON LEARNED.

AND THAT'S A FINISHED PRODUCT OF THE PORT MALABAR HEADING TOWARDS BABCOCK STREET.

NICE ROAD. ANOTHER SUCCESS.

UNIT 49 FINALLY GOT MADDEN PAID.

SO THAT LOOKS GREAT OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.

ALMOST FOUR MILES OF MADDEN IS ALL DONE.

OSMOSIS WAS DONE AS WELL.

SO UNIT 49 HAS A STREET COMPLETED TWO STREETS ACTUALLY OSMOSIS.

AND THEN RECENTLY WE JUST FINISHED MARIKANA AND UNIT 13 WHICH IS PART OF JUPITER.

SO THESE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF A COMPLETED IN MARIKANA.

AGAIN LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE HAPPY.

ANOTHER GREAT ARTERIAL ROAD TAKING CARE OF LITTLE BY LITTLE WITH KNOCKING DOWN THESE ARTERIALS AS WE GET THESE UNITS DONE.

SO WE MAKE SURE WE KNOW WE'RE MOVING FORWARD NOT ONLY JUST THE LOCAL STREETS, BUT THE MAJOR ARTERIALS AS WELL.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, IN SUMMARY THE OVERALL PROCESS.

AGAIN, YOU HAVE THAT 791 MILES OF TOTAL MILES TO GET DONE.

THE COLORFUL PICTURE IS WHAT WE HAD AGREED UPON BY COUNCIL.

WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO HOLD TO THAT, BUT IT'S COUNCIL'S DECISION.

YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE BRING THIS UP, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE THE NUMBERS AROUND.

BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN HOLDING TO YOUR PHASE ONE HAS ALL BEEN DONE GREAT.

AND WE'RE GOING INTO PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE.

AND I'LL BE HIGHLIGHTING THAT REAL QUICKLY.

PHASE ONE WAS ALL DONE THE FIRST YEAR.

SO WE WE ACTUALLY DID GOOD.

WE ACTUALLY CAME UNDER PAR YOU CAN SAY IN TERMS OF THE COST.

SO ALL THE ONES IN BLUE WERE ALL COMPLETED.

SO WE TOOK CARE OF ABOUT 142 MILES AND WE GOT IT DONE WITHIN $31 MILLION.

SO THAT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS.

YEAR TWO WAS A LARGER AREA WHICH COVERED THE NORTHEAST AREA.

AND SO BECAUSE IT COVERED THE HUGE NORTHEAST AREA THAT HAD A LOT MORE UNITS THAN WHAT'S SHOWN IN YELLOW IS WHAT'S REMAINING COUNTRY CLUB ONE THROUGH TEN HAD A LOT OF STREETS THAT WE HAD TO KEEP CHECKING AND RECHECKING FOR FDR, BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO IT RIGHT.

WE LEARNED OUR LESSONS.

AND SO THE COUNTRY CLUB IS WHAT'S LEFT.

AND OF COURSE, WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UNITS 26, 38, 39 AND 40 FOR THE MICROSURGERY.

THOSE ARE THE LAST TWO STREETS IN ENTIRE UNIT, PHASE TWO.

SO THAT'S A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.

SO AGAIN, WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO UNIT PHASE TWO FOR ALL THESE UNITS.

PHASE THREE SAME THING.

WE'VE ALREADY MOVED FORWARD BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY ISSUES GOING ON WITH PHASE TWO.

WE MOVED FORWARD WITH PHASE THREE AS WELL.

SO AS YOU SEE WE HAVE MAJORITY OF PHASE THREE ALL COMPLETED AS WELL.

SO ALL WE HAVE LEFT IS THE UNIT 2237, 57 AND ACTUALLY SMALL.

WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD NOW WITH WACO AND MINT.

THEY WERE BUNDLED TOGETHER.

BUT WACO AND MINTON AS YOU KNOW MINTON IS IN ISN'T NOT SO GREAT SHAPE.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE I THINK ADVERTISED OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THOSE TWO STREETS OUT EARLY.

SO THOSE TWO STREETS WILL GO OUT AS A SEPARATE FDR PROJECTS.

THEY WERE NEVER PART OF 2337, 57, BUT WE TIED IT TOGETHER BECAUSE WE THOUGHT WE COULD GET THEM OUT AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THOSE NEED TO GO UP NOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THOSE OUT RIGHT NOW.

THE PLANS HAVE ALL BEEN DONE. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW EVERYTHING IN UNIT THREE AND I'LL SHOW YOU NEXT IN UNIT FOUR, ALL THE DESIGN HAS BEEN DONE.

WE'RE READY TO GO.

IT JUST WE HAVE TO FOLLOW BEHIND THE PIPES.

REMEMBER THE PIPES. WE HAVE TO DO THE PIPES FIRST.

BUT SHOWN IN HERE IN YELLOW.

NONE OF THESE STREETS HAVE BEEN LET OUT YET, BUT THE DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

MOST OF THESE DESIGNS, LIKE IN UNITS 45 AND 44, WERE DONE ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO.

SO? SO MOST OF THESE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECHECK AGAIN TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WEATHER CONDITIONS, AGE AND TIME, OUR ROADWAYS DON'T LAST THAT LONG.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE THE STREETS GET IMPACTED.

MORE LIKELY WE HAVE TO DO SOME MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE IMPROVEMENTS THAN SIMPLE, YOU KNOW, PAVING AND OVERLAYS.

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AND THEN OF COURSE PHASE FIVE IS THE REMAINING, REST OF THE CITY, WHICH IS SHOWN IN PINK.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO THE CRITICAL POINT WHERE DUE TO THE SHORTFALLS, WHERE DO WE START LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF ALL THESE STREETS? WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN WITHIN THESE UNITS, WE ALSO BURY IN THE ARTERIALS.

SO YOU SEE SOME OF THE ARTERIALS POPPING UP LIKE MALABAR ROAD.

MALABAR ROAD IS REALLY CRITICAL.

WE NEED TO GET THAT DONE AS WELL.

BUT IT SHOWS YOU SOME OF THE ROADS AS WELL IN PHASE FIVE.

AND THEN IN SUMMARIZING AGAIN FIVE PHASES.

PHASE ONE WAS DONE.

PHASE TWO ALMOST DONE WORK.

PHASE THREE ALMOST DONE TWO AS WELL.

BUT WE'RE INTO PHASE FOUR AND FIVE.

TOTAL MAGIC NUMBER AGAIN IS SEVEN ONE 791 MILES OF ROADWAYS.

THAT WAS IN THE ROAD PROGRAM.

JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THAT'S THE ROAD PROGRAM.

THE CITY HAS SOME OF THAT.

SO YOU HAVE 791 MILES.

KNOW THE CITY HAS 866 MILES OF ROADWAY.

AND IT GOES, WHERE ARE THE 866 COME FROM COMPOUND.

THAT'S NRF DOT ANNUAL REPORT THAT I SUBMITTED.

EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE 866 MILES OF PAVED ROADS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BUT IN THE ROAD PROGRAM 791, THAT NUMBER HAS NOT CHANGED FROM THE START, THEN THE REPORT, THEN EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE FROM THE GET GO HAS BEEN THAT NUMBER.

SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.

AND THEN THE MAGIC NUMBER HERE OF COURSE, IS THE $220 MILLION, WHICH IS HIGHER THAN THE 150.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN.

SHORTFALL. AND THIS ONE HIGHLIGHT THIS I CALL THIS THE I ENJOYED WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAILEY.

HE LIKED HAVING THIS CHART BECAUSE HE CHANGED THE NUMBERS ALL INTO SQUARE YARDS, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO KEEP THINGS IN COMPARISON, AND I RESPECT THAT.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT WAS DIFFICULT BECAUSE ASPHALT IS BASED ON TONS, BUT WE CONVERTED EVERYTHING TO SQUARE YARDS, SO IT'S COST PER SQUARE YARDS.

SO WE HAD THE TRADITIONAL ONES WAS BACK IN 2019 WHEN MR. BAILEY WAS HERE. KIND OF SHOWED YOU WHAT THE PRICES WERE THEN.

THIS IS THE MOST RECENT ONE WE DID EARLY ON.

WHEN WE HAD AN EARLY WORKSHOP, WHICH WAS IN 2023 OF LAST YEAR.

AND THIS SHOWS YOU KIND OF LIKE THE THE CHANGE IN BETWEEN THE 2019 AND 2023.

AS YOU SEE, ALMOST ALL OF THEM HAVE INCREASED EXCEPT FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION AND THE FULL DEPTH.

THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF SAMPLES, YOU KNOW, OF THE OTHER ONES, WE HAVE LOTS OF WE'VE BEEN DOING LOTS OF IN THE FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, OVERLAYS AND BILL AND PAYS, BUT NOT SO MANY YEARS AND NOT SO MANY ROAD CONSTRUCTION.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY ARE IN THE NEGATIVES.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP THAT FDR IS IN THE POSITIVE.

OKAY. IF YOU HAD TO RERUN THE NUMBERS NOW BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF THE FDR, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE HIGH COST OF CEMENT AND HIGH COST TO FIND THE AGGREGATE ROCK, THOSE NUMBERS HAVE JUMPED. SO THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE UP IN THE, YOU CAN SAY, IN THE 30 PLUS RANGES.

SO AGAIN, BASED ON TIME, BASED ON ALL THE FACTORS, OUR PRICES ARE GOING UP LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IS GOING UP.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

SUMMARY OF EVERYTHING AGAIN, WHICH IS THE GOOD NEWS.

YOU KNOW WE HAD $150 MILLION.

YAY. BUT WITH WITH THE INCREASES, $163 MILLION, EVEN BETTER.

BAD NEWS IS YOU SHOW THAT NUMBER AGAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COMPLETED ALMOST $94 MILLION, BUT THE TOTAL NET IS $220 MILLION.

SO WE'VE GOT A SHORTFALL, $56 MILLION.

THAT'S THIS REALITY, THIS PURE NUMBERS.

AND AGAIN WE'RE USING PROJECTED NUMBERS.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP OUT.

BUT YOU KNOW THE FINANCES IN TERMS OF AN UPDATE.

SOME OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE THESE OVERAGES AND IMPEDIMENTS.

YOU KNOW OF COURSE YOU KNOW, COVID INFLATION, HIGH COST OF FUEL, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH COST OF THE ASPHALT OVERALL, PRETTY MUCH HIGH COST OF EVERYTHING, LIMITED SUPPLIES AND SOME THINGS LIKE EGG AND ROCK IN TERMS OF WORKERS AND INCREASE IN TRUCKING COSTS.

ALL THOSE ARE FACTS OF LIFE.

THE LONGER WE PUSH THIS OUT, TIME KEEPS CHANGING AND THINGS GET MORE EXPENSIVE.

SOME THINGS WE HAVE DONE TO HELP IMPROVE.

BASED ON COUNCIL'S LAST WORKSHOP WE HAD REGARDING THE POLYMER MIX.

6%. WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

WE JUST DID THE TEST TRIAL WORKED OUT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE 6% MICRO.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD ON MONDAY, HOPEFULLY GET THEIR ENDORSEMENT, AND THEN AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THAT UNIT 26, 38, 39, 40 OUT ON THE STREETS, WE GET THOSE DONE.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, DO ANOTHER BUNDLE OF MICRO SURFACING.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, CONTINUE TO DO AS MANY OF THE STREETS WE CAN.

MICRO SURFACES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE, SO THAT WAY WE CAN PUSH THAT NUMBER A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.

IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL, WE SAW THAT $220 MILLION, MAYBE LESS.

OTHER THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS LIKE WHAT THEY CALL THIN LIFT, OVERLAYS.

A ONE INCH IS WHAT'S CONSIDERED A THIN LIFT.

BASED ON OUR RECENT RESEARCH FROM FDOT AND A LOT AGENCIES, IT'S STILL NOT BEEN, SOLID USE IN TERMS OF TYPICALLY IT'S AN INCH AND A HALF BECAUSE OF THE ROCK SIZE AND THE MIXTURE.

YOU HAVE TO DO SO THAT'S THE LOWEST YOU WANT TO GO TO DO AN OVERLAY, WHICH IS THE INCH AND A HALF.

WHEN YOU GET TO AN INCH, IT HAS PROBLEMS, BUT THEY ARE FINDING NEW MATERIALS, NEW ROCK, NEW AGGREGATES THAT ARE SMALLER AND MORE FINE.

AND SO WE'RE WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

OTHER OPTIONS WE LOOKED AT WAS WE TAKE OUT THE WHAT THEY CALL THE PERFORMANCE GRADE PPG.

SO THAT'S NOT POLYMER GRADE.

IT'S PERFORMANCE GRADE PPG.

AND THAT'S THE POLYMER YOU ADD TO IT.

AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS WE HAD THE TOP OF THE LINE POLYMER.

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SO WE WERE FOLLOWING FDOT.

AND SO THE TOP LINE WAS WHAT THEY CALL 7622 PERFORMANCE GRADE, WHICH IS THE TOP END OF IT.

BUT THE TOP END OF IT FOR FDOT WAS BUILDING FDOT FREEWAYS, AND WE DON'T HAVE FREEWAY TRAFFIC.

SO WE SCALED IT BACK A LITTLE BIT TO BE MORE REALISTIC ON OUR ON OUR LOCAL AND COLLECTOR ROADS.

SO WE TOOK OUT THE PPG, SO THAT DROPPED THE TONNAGE OF ASPHALT FROM THERE.

THIS WAS ABOUT 180.

YOU TAKE OUT THE PPG 140.

SO YOU A GOOD $40 SAVINGS IN TERMS OF DROPPING THAT PPG.

DOES IT REALLY, DEVALUE THE THE MATERIAL? THE MATERIALS ARE THE SAME. THE SAME.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT REQUIRES TO HAVE THE HIGH PPG.

SO THAT'S WHY WE TOOK IT OUT OF OUR LOCAL STREETS.

BUT ON OUR ON OUR MAJOR STREETS, NOW THAT PPG STAYS IN THERE FOR MALABAR AND ALL THE MAJOR STREETS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE 76, 22 IS IN THERE BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT, JUST LIKE ON A MAJOR ROADS, BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY VOLUME, THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT TO PROTECT OUR ROADWAYS.

AND SO THESE ARE ARE WE CONSIDERING THOSE ROADS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVEN'T MOVED IN YET THOUGH? IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE BIG VAN LINES THAT COME THROUGH TO THE MOVERS, THOSE ARE ONE TIME HITS.

YOU KNOW, LIKE ALL OUR LOCAL STREETS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GARBAGE TRUCKS, FIRE ENGINES, THE MOVING VANS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, DUMP TRUCKS LIKE CRAZY BUILDING THE SCATTERED LOTS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CONTINUING TRAFFIC, CONTINUED TRAFFIC, LIKE ON A, LIKE ON MALABAR ROAD OR LIKE ON A FREEWAY.

YOU HAVE CONTINUING HEAVY 18 WHEELERS CONTINUALLY POUNDING ON THE ROADS.

THAT'S WHAT CAUSES WHAT HAPPENS IS THE ASPHALT DOESN'T BREAK DOWN.

IT'S THE BASE MATERIAL THAT BREAKS DOWN BENEATH IT.

AND ONCE THE BASE MATERIAL BREAKS DOWN, IT OPENS UP THE ASPHALT AND ALLOWS THE CRACKING WATER GETS DOWN THERE.

NOW WATER GETS INTO THE BASE AND NOW YOU HAVE BASE FAILURE.

SO NOW THAT'S THE START OF THE WHOLE PROCESS OF THE OF THE ROADWAY FALLING APART.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO IS TO PROTECT THAT ASPHALT AND SEAL IT WITH THE REJUVENATION.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, TRY TO NOT HAVE THAT MANY HEAVY TRUCKS ON YOUR ROADWAY SO IT DOESN'T BEAT IT DOWN.

MOST OF OUR LOCAL STREETS I DROVE AROUND LIKE TODAY IN 3132.

WELL, LAST IS 20 PLUS YEARS.

I'M GOING TO SAY ONE THING GREAT ABOUT IT.

WHEN WE DID GAYNOR ROAD, WE PUT EXTRA EFFORT ON GAYNOR ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO A FULL RECONSTRUCTION, BUT IT HAD A LOT OF SAND IN IT, UNFORESEEN.

AGAIN, WE LESSON LEARNED, UNFORESEEN.

WE COULDN'T DO IT BECAUSE IT WAS SO MUCH CEMENT, SAND.

WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT IN MORE MILLINGS AND THEN WE MADE IT THICKER.

AND THAT ROAD IS GOING TO LAST US PROBABLY 40 YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS IT WAS A TRIAL THAT WE HAD BECAUSE AT THE LAST MINUTE WE REALIZED WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE IT WORK.

AND SO WE HAD A LAB TESTED IT, AND THE CONTRACTOR WORKED WITH US, AND THAT CAME OUT TO BE A HUGE SUCCESS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE AS WELL, UNFORESEEN.

BUT THAT HAPPENS. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND SO I'M GOING TO PASS IT ON TO SAM FOR THE CLOSURE.

THANK YOU FRANK. SO YEAH GETTING BACK TO THE $15 MILLION GAP WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YOU KNOW WE WE HAVE $150 MILLION ROAD BOND AS WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED, YOU KNOW BACK IN 2018.

THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER BACK THEN COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN WHAT ALL THE MARKET CHANGES WOULD HAVE BEEN BETWEEN THEN AND NOW.

SO WE'RE NOT HERE TO SECOND GUESS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A GAP $150 MILLION.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE NEED ANOTHER 15 MILLION.

SO HOW DO WE FUND THAT? CLEARLY WE NEED A STRATEGY FOR A MULTI YEAR FINANCING OPTION, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS FUNDS TO JUST TAKE CARE OF.

AND IN ONE FELL SWOOP.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT ARE WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT SOURCES OF POTENTIAL REVENUE THAT WE COULD ATTACH TO A FUTURE, FINANCING.

AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IS ISSUING A BOND.

IT WOULD BE A BOND THAT WOULD NOT BE RELIANT ON.

A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT OF SORTS THAT WOULD BE ON YOUR TAX BILL, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FINANCED BY THE CITY.

SO THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO YOU FINANCE THAT? WE DO HAVE ON HERE THE OPTION OBVIOUSLY, THE FIRST ONE THERE ABOUT VOTER CONSIDERATION OF ADDITIONAL BOND.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S ALWAYS ON THE TABLE AS AN OPTION.

THE SECOND THING WE TALK ABOUT IS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF NEW REVENUE WE RECEIVE EACH YEAR WHEN WE'RE PLANNING THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE KNOW WE'RE LIMITED BY WHATEVER THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IS THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE GOOD YEARS.

THAT'S THAT'S, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE IN THE YEARS WHERE, DEVELOPMENT IS NOT OCCURRING, THAT WILL BE A MUCH SMALLER NUMBER.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE 3% CAP THAT DOES WHAT IT DOES TO THE MILLAGE RATE AND THE REVENUE YOU CAN TAKE IN.

SO THAT WE HAVE TO SORT OF THINK ABOUT WHAT STRATEGY WE WOULD APPLY THERE AND USING NEW REVENUE, IN PART BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY PRIORITIZING CERTAIN THINGS LIKE INCREASING OUR PULL, NEW POOL OF FUNDING FROM THAT FOR THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND TO KEEP THAT ON TRACK.

SO WE'VE WE'VE CONTEMPLATED SORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT IN TIME AND SPACE ON NEW REVENUE.

WE ALSO LOOKED, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, FRANK, THERE'S A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO BOTH BREVARD COUNTY AND MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE FUNDING SOURCES THAT CAN BE USED FOR ROADS AND ROAD MAINTENANCE.

HOWEVER, THEY ALL REQUIRE POLITICAL ACTION AND ARE NOT WITHIN OUR CONTROL.

ONE OF THOSE IS THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX, WHICH I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT AT THE END HERE.

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SO THAT IS STILL SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY COULD CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

IF THEY DID, WE COULD BRING IN ANOTHER 2 TO $3 MILLION INTO CITY REVENUE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE THAT IS A REVENUE SOURCE THAT'S SHARED BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES.

THE OTHER OPTION THAT IS ALLOWABLE PER STATE STATUTE IS A DISCRETIONARY SALES TAX.

AND THAT SALES TAX CAN BE A QUARTER OF A PERCENTAGE, UP TO 1%.

AND IT IS SHARED REVENUE BETWEEN THE COUNTIES AND THE CITIES.

IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR ROADS AND BRIDGES.

AND IF THAT WERE EVER TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT WOULD BRING AT THE LOW END, $22 MILLION AT THE HIGH END, $91 MILLION ANNUALLY INTO THE COUNTY AND THE CITIES FOR ROAD AND BRIDGE PROJECTS.

NEXT SLIDE. BUT THE REALITY IS, THE THING THAT IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL IS OUR CURRENT PLAN TO FINANCE FOR THE FUTURE, LOOKING AT OUR REVENUES THAT ARE COMING IN, LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEED TO TO ACTUALLY FUND ANOTHER ROAD BOND.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT TO DO A $50 MILLION ROAD BOND, ON AVERAGE, YOU'D NEED BETWEEN 3 AND $3.5 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR A DEBT SERVICE FOR THE PAYMENT ON THAT BOND. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT WAS, WELL, COULD WE OVER SEVERAL FISCAL YEAR FUNDING CYCLES, COULD WE BEGIN TO MOVE MONEY AROUND IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A FUTURE PAYMENT? AND SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS SLIDE IS, IS TRYING TO PROPOSE THAT OVER SEVERAL FUNDING CYCLES, BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THAT EXTRA $50 MILLION TODAY, BUT WE WILL NEED IT AS WE KEEP GOING THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL PHASES AND THE MONEY WE'VE ALREADY DRAWN DOWN.

WE KNOW WE CAN TAKE A FEW YEARS TO START GRADUALLY DOING A STRATEGY WHICH WILL INCLUDE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THE IDEA IS WE RECEIVE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX TODAY, THE PORTION THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ALLOCATED, IT'S ABOUT $4 MILLION, BUT IT'S BUILT INTO GENERAL FUND REVENUE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL REVENUE IN GENERAL FUND.

IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY SET ASIDE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING BEGINNING TO SET THAT ASIDE IN INCREMENTS OVER A SERIES OF ABOUT THREE YEARS IS THE GOAL.

AND AS WE DO THAT, WE WILL ESSENTIALLY BACKFILL WHAT THAT REVENUE IS, IS CURRENTLY USED TO DO BY USING ONE OF SEVERAL STRATEGIES, PROBABLY MULTIPLE STRATEGIES, I SHOULD SAY IT COULD BE PORTIONS OF NEW REVENUE, BUT WE PROBABLY CAN'T DO WITH ALL NEW REVENUE BECAUSE THAT'S LIMITED.

IT CAN ALSO BE WE HAVE THREE EXISTING DEBT SERVICES FROM YEARS, YEARS GONE BY THAT WILL BE, HAVING FINAL PAYMENTS IN 25 AND 26. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THAT FREES UP ABOUT $1.3 MILLION IN PAYMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE.

SO THERE'S A POTENTIAL TO TAKE A PORTION OF THAT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE JUST THE THE IDEA OF, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE FUNDING AND I SHOULD SAY WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS WE WILL CONTINUE ON ALL OF THIS TO FUND THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

RIGHT. SO THAT CAN'T THAT CAN'T EVER BE DEVIATED FROM.

SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT STRATEGY.

THIS IS ON TOP OF THIS IS A SEPARATE STRATEGY.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD LOOK AT THOSE THINGS AND WE WOULD ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE CRA AS IT ENDS THIS YEAR.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT USES OF THOSE FUNDS AND THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE CITY.

BUT IF A PRIORITIZATION WAS TO COME TO MOVE THAT MONEY IN PART POTENTIALLY TO A FUTURE BOND REVENUE STREAM, THAT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER POTENTIAL STRATEGY.

AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PIECES WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE WHAT WE WOULD LOOK AT IN EACH OF THE SUBSEQUENT BUDGET CYCLES.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THIS THIS SUMMER AND WE BEGIN TO PREPARE THE BUDGET.

AND OUR GOAL WOULD BE TO START FIGURING OUT WHAT MONEY WE.

COULD PUT ASIDE, REALLY PULL IT OUT, PUT IT IN A DEDICATED FUND SPECIFICALLY TARGETED FOR FUTURE ROAD BOND ISSUANCE.

AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE START THAT, LIKE I SAID, FOR THIS UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR IN 25.

SO IF YOU KNOW, COUNCIL CONSENSUS IS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEN YOU WOULD SEE THAT FIRST SET ASIDE OF FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.

AND THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAVE.

SO I THINK I'LL JUST START.

MA'AM, I KNOW THAT I'VE FIRST OF ALL THIS IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND I TRULY APPRECIATE IT.

WE'VE BEEN UPDATING OUR CITIZENS ON THE SHORTFALL.

I REALLY ENJOY THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE YOU'RE YOU'RE SPEAKING YOU'RE SPEAKING NUMBERS, FRANK.

NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE SHARING AND DISCLOSING, AS WE HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, OUR SHORTFALL AND AND THE REASONS FOR THOSE SHORTFALLS.

SO AND I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY SAYING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING WHERE YOU GUYS FIGURE THIS OUT.

AND I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD.

THE DEBT SERVICE, ISSUANCE OF ALREADY STARTING TO ALLOCATE THAT TOWARDS THIS AND LOOKING AT HOW WE SUPPLEMENT THAT LIGHT, THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'LL BE USING THAT TO COMPLETE THE MISSION.

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IT'S A GOOD STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS GOING BACK TO THE VOTERS IN THAT REGARD BECAUSE THEY THEY'VE ALREADY COMMITTED IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT THAT WE'VE INCREASED OR WE'VE HAD SUCH HIGH COSTS FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.

THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL EXPERIENCING EVERYTHING, REGARDING TO COVID AND INFLATION AND FUEL COSTS.

BUT THIS IS A GREAT IN MY EYES.

THIS IS A GOOD STRATEGY MOVING FORWARD, MA'AM, AND I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO THANK OUR STAFF FOR COMING UP WITH THIS STRATEGY.

IT'S IT'S NOT FOOLPROOF, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE INFORMING THE PUBLIC.

NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE DIDN'T HAVE A STRATEGY BEFORE.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE A VISION WHERE WE CAN START TACKLING THIS.

AND BY THAT TIME, IF I'M NOT, IF I RECEIVED THIS CORRECTLY, IT'LL BE 20, 27.

THAT WILL BE ABLE TO START MAKING THAT THAT FIRST, BOND ISSUANCE, IF YOU WILL.

IF WE'LL BY THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THOSE THREE, $3 MILLION FROM WHAT I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION OR 3.5 MILLION.

IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND FISCAL YEAR 27, YOU KNOW, PLUS OR MINUS.

WE CAN GET THE MONEY TOGETHER SOONER AND AND WE'RE READY PROJECT WISE TO ISSUE THE BOND.

WE COULD DO IT SOONER THAN THAT.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE THE STRATEGY, MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR THE FULL DISCLOSURE AND LETTING OUR COMMUNITY KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE FACING.

I'LL START WITH YOU.

WELL, LET ME START WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

I AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER STRATEGY.

I LIKE IT, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE TEN YEARS AGO WITH THE ROADS.

AND, THAT'S THAT FALLS ON THE COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE CITY MANAGER.

SO I SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, NOTHING ELSE REALLY TO ADD, MAYOR, I AGREE WITH THE PLAN.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE LOCAL OPTION GAS TAX, BUT I KNOW CURRENTLY STATE LEGISLATORS ARE LOOKING AT HOW TO DEAL WITH, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE MISSING OUT ON ALL ALL THAT, RIGHT NOW.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT OPTION, TOO.

BUT I'M GOOD. MAYOR, I DO APPRECIATE YOU HIGHLIGHTING MINTON ROAD, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A ROAD THAT ALL OF COUNCIL.

AND I'M SURE YOU ALL HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT TO, AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING WORKING WITH UTILITIES ALSO ON MINTON ROAD.

I GOT A CALL, ABOUT A POTHOLE ON MINTON FURTHER DOWN.

AND THAT AREA WAS ACTUALLY THE COUNTY'S.

BUT PUBLIC WORKS STILL WENT OUT THERE, MADE SURE THEY CHECKED TO SEE IF Y'ALL CAN DO WHAT Y'ALL.

BUT HEY, Y'ALL DO.

Y'ALL GOT THE JOB DONE. SO I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE Y'ALL GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND I KNOW IT'S HARD I UNDERSTAND AND I APPRECIATE THE GUYS.

PLEASE LET THEM KNOW.

LIKE WE KNOW THEY'RE WORKING HARD.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING A LOT MORE CLOSELY WITH THE COUNTY.

A GOOD EXAMPLE IS BABCOCK STREET.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF SECTIONS WE TOOK ON A SEGMENT OF BABCOCK STREET.

BUT THEN WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF SECTIONS OF THE COUNTY AND VICE VERSA.

THE COUNTY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH US AND KEEPING US INFORMED, AND TO LET US KNOW THAT GOOD EXAMPLES OF SIGNAL THAT'S STILL WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY IS, TRYING TO GET THAT SIGNAL PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH THEY SHOULD START CONSTRUCTION.

SO THERE'S SOME GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COUNTY.

SO THAT WAY WE WORK TOGETHER.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

THAT POTHOLE THAT WAS SAVING FOR MY UNDER MY REPORTS THERE, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, BECAUSE THAT IS A BIG KUDOS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

ACTUALLY, I'LL START WITH, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MENTIONED, THE LOCAL, OPTION, GAS TAXES.

I MEAN, CERTAINLY IN A PERFECT WORLD, I'D LOVE TO SPREAD THE COST OVER THE COUNTY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, US HAVING TO PAY FOR IT.

BUT REALITY IS, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE CHANCE FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE, BEING, YOU KNOW, SUCH A POLITICAL AS MR. SHERMAN SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT SEE IT AS, AS SUCH, BUT I DO AGREE, MAYOR.

YEAH. NOT THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.

A COUPLE YEARS BACK, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE WHERE ALL, SHORTFALLS WERE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO, TO GET THIS THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS, UNIT 49 COMPLETED.

SO CERTAINLY NOW THAT WE KNOW WE'RE DOWN, WE GOT A NUMBER, ATTACHED TO IT, AND WE HAVE SOME SORT OF PLAN TO TO PAY FOR IT.

I WOULD, DEFINITELY AGREE.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH, WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ONE.

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YOU MENTIONED GANAR EARLIER.

YES, SIR. I KNOW ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO, MR. BATTEN BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF STRIPING OF THAT AGAINOR.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME ATTENTION, SOME LIGHT SHED ON THAT.

I KNOW DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY WENT OUT AND TAKE A LOOK.

WAS SOME ISSUES MR. BATTEN RAISED AND I DID AGREE WITH THAT.

SHOULD BE, NOT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE IN TERMS OF WHAT CONSIDERED WHAT SHOULD BE OR SHOULD NOT BE, BUT JUST BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE.

WHAT ARE WE ON THAT? YEAH, ON THE STRIPING.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE MAKE SURE ALL OUR COLLECTORS AND OUR ARTERIALS ARE STRIPED.

AND MAINLY BECAUSE ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, YOU WANT THAT EXTRA REFLECTIVITY SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT LANES THEY'RE IN WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE LOCAL STREETS.

IT'S BEEN PRACTICED THAT, AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN TO THAT ON THE LOCAL STREETS.

IF YOU STRAP A ROAD AND NOW YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE LANES, THE THE TRAFFIC SPEEDS HIGHER.

SO IT'S BEEN SHOWN IF YOU TAKE A LOCAL ROAD AND YOU STRIPE IT, YOUR SPEEDING INCREASES.

SO THAT'S WHY A LOT OF AGENCIES ON THE LOCAL ROADS, THEY DON'T STRAP IT, BEYOND IF YOU HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE DOUBLE YELLOW AT THE, AT THE, AT THE STOP BAR, OR IF YOU HAVE A, LIKE A, LIKE A CURVE.

A GOOD EXAMPLE IS, MADDEN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS STRIPING ON MADDEN EVEN THOUGH IT'S CONSIDERED QUASI LOCAL AND COLLECTOR.

WE STRAP BECAUSE OF THE CURVES YOU TYPICALLY WANT.

WHEN YOU HAVE CURVES YOU WANT TO KEEP, YOU WANT TO KEEP THE CARS IN THEIR LANES, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO TO HUG THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO YOU PUT THE STRIPES DOWN.

BUT THE PRACTICE USUALLY IS ON A LOCAL ROAD, IS NOT DISTRACTED, BUT THAT'S A COUNCIL CALL ON ON ROADS.

WE'RE LIKE GAYNOR.

THE REASON WHY I WOULD SAY GAYNOR IS SPECIAL IS BECAUSE, LET'S SAY AGAINST BILL, IT IS A QUASI COLLECTOR, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LOCAL, IT'S A QUASI COLLECTOR.

THE NORTHERN HALF OF GAYNOR ROAD IS A LOT WIDER, TOO, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THE SOUTHERN HALF IS A LOT NARROWER.

AND THEN WE'RE BILL BATTLE IS IS A SHORT SEGMENT SOUTH OF OCEAN SPRAY, WHICH VERY TIGHT, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T WANT TO WORK WITH US.

AND SO WE HAD A SQUEEZE IN THE 22FT IN SOME AREAS THAT GOES LIKE 21FT JUST TO SQUEEZE IT IN.

SO THE ROAD KIND OF MOVES AROUND.

BUT IN THAT SENSE, BECAUSE IT DOES CHANGE IN WIDTH IN THE NORTHERN HALF IS WIDE AT THE DIRECTION IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS ARE REQUESTING THE STRIPING.

THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.

I MEAN, IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS TO ADD ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ENHANCEMENTS, BUT TYPICALLY RULE OF THUMB ON A LOCAL STREET.

AND I DON'T CONSIDER IT MR. BATON GAYNOR, A LOCAL STREET ON A LOCAL STREET.

YOU TRY NOT TO STRIPE IT.

FRANK, IF I MAY, I'VE BEEN TRAVELING THAT THAT QUARTER OR QUITE A BIT, I CAN TELL YOU.

I CAN SEE THE BENEFIT TO THAT IF THE IF THE REASON IS, IS CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASING TRAFFIC.

I MEAN, SPEEDING.

THEY ALREADY SPEEDING.

YEAH. SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT MUCH.

I AGREE WITH YOU, TOO. I WANT TO BE SAFE.

I WANT THE RESIDENTS TO BE SAFE.

I CAN SEE THE BENEFIT OF DOING SO, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

AND THAT THAT OPENED A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION ABOUT STREETLIGHTS.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL BE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED NEXT, BUDGET YEAR.

COMING UP, FISCAL YEAR, A LOT OF OUR STREETS ARE DARK, ESPECIALLY LIKE A LOT OF OUR STREETS AT OUR DARTS ESPECIALLY.

THEY HAVE NO LIGHTS AT THE AT THE TERMINUS POINTS, WHICH WOULD BE AT THE INTERSECTIONS THAT EXTRA THE STRIPING WILL HELP BECAUSE THEY ARE REFLECTIVE.

AND SO AT NIGHT THEY'LL STAND OUT.

SO IF THERE'S A ROAD THAT HAS ISSUES LIKE THAT WITH POTENTIAL QUASI COLLECTOR, AND IT'S DARK, I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND THE STRIKING BECAUSE IT DOES ADD THAT ENHANCEMENT.

YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE THE DISCUSSION ON GAYNOR.

AND MAYBE WE COULD BRING WE COULD BRING THAT BACK IN THE FUTURE.

BUT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS THE STRATEGIES.

AND BUT THE SAFETY ISSUES AND I KNOW WE DISCUSSED GAYNOR BEFORE.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF, DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO, MA'AM, YOU HAVE CONSENSUS THUS FAR ON ON THIS ITEM.

DO DO WE STILL NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE THE PAVEMENT REPORT? YES, PLEASE. YEAH.

OKAY. SO I'LL.

I NEED A MOTION, GENTLEMEN.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? DEPUTY MAYOR.

OKAY, SO I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

WE HAVE THE STRATEGY.

IT'S ON THE RECORD.

I THINK WE ALL AGREED.

WE HAVE A VISION MOVING FORWARD.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I AYE.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS.

I'LL START WITH YOU, MR..

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS]

ARE YOU FOLLOWING ME? OKAY.

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AND I CAN MAKE APPOINTMENT TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

SUZANNE. PARTIZAN SUSTAINABILITY PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

ALSO TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ONE.

WE DID THE RIGHT THING EARLIER THIS YEAR.

LAST YEAR, NOT THIS YEAR.

LAST YEAR, 2023, WHEN WE, GAVE L3 HARRIS A TAX BREAK TO GET THEM TO STAY IN PALM BAY AND NOT LOOK FOR ANOTHER LOCATION.

JUST I THINK IT WAS MONDAY.

THEY GOT AWARDED, OVER A $900 MILLION DEFENSE CONTRACTOR TO BUILD SATELLITES, MILITARY SATELLITES.

THAT'S RIGHT. FOR THE SPACE FORCE.

AND THAT'S A BIG WIN FOR US IN PALM BAY.

WE APPROVED.

THE TAX BREAKS.

THE COUNTY DIDN'T. THE COUNTY TOOK THEIRS BACK.

AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE DID THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO MY COLLEAGUES.

ALSO, PALM BAY CELEBRATED A BIRTHDAY THIS WEEK, JANUARY 16TH, 1960. WE NEED TO.

WE NEED TO DO A PROCLAMATION OF SOMETHING TO RECOGNIZE THAT 20 WAS 64 YEARS OF PALM BAY BEING INCORPORATED. AND MY FINAL THOUGHT IS, ALSO, WE CELEBRATED MARTIN LUTHER KING BIRTHDAY.

AND. HE GAVE MANY GREAT SPEECHES THROUGHOUT HIS LIFETIME TO MOVE THIS COUNTRY FORWARD.

ONE SPEECH EVERYBODY KNOW OF I HAVE A DREAM.

BUT FOR ME, THAT WASN'T MY FAVORITE SPEECH.

MY FAVORITE IS TWO OF THEM.

WELL, IT'S ONE OF THEM.

ONE WAS A PRAYER. HE DID.

BUT THE SPEECH HE DID IN MEMPHIS, HIS LAST SPEECH HE GAVE I'VE BEEN TO THE MOUNTAINTOP.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPEECH THERE.

YES, SIR. BUT YOU ARE.

IT'S A VERY POWERFUL SPEECH.

AND HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT CLIMBING A MOUNTAIN.

AND IF YOU LISTEN TO THE LAST MINUTE OF THAT SPEECH.

HE MENTIONED THAT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFICULT DAYS AHEAD.

AND HE SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER TO HIM NOW BECAUSE HE'S BEEN TO THE MOUNTAINTOP.

AND GOD THE LORD HAS ALLOWED HIM TO LOOK OVER AND SEE THE PROMISED LAND.

AND HE WENT ON TO SAY HE MIGHT NOT GET THERE WITH US, BUT WE AS A PEOPLE.

HE SAID, BLACK PEOPLE, YOU SAY WHITE PEOPLE, HE SAY CHINESE.

HE DIDN'T SAY KOREAN, ASIAN, ARAB.

HE SAID WE AS A PEOPLE.

WE'LL GET TO THE PROMISED LAND.

AND HE WASN'T FEARING ANY MAN BECAUSE HE HE SAID HE SEEN THE GLORY OF THE LORD.

IT'S A VERY POWERFUL SPEECH.

YOU GOT TO LISTEN FROM BEGINNING TO END.

AND DURING THAT SPEECH.

HE, MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS VERY SICK WITH THE FLU.

YOU COULDN'T TELL IT THE WAY HE SPOKE THAT NIGHT? THAT'S A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THAT INFORMATION.

BUT IT WAS ALMOST LIKE GIVING HIS EULOGY.

THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN THE NEXT DAY.

SO. GO ON, YOU TWO.

I'M ASKING PALM BAY.

GO ON. YOU TO LISTEN TO THAT SPEECH.

IT'S A VERY POWERFUL SPEECH.

IT MEANS A LOT TO ME NOW.

THAT I LISTENED TO THE OTHER DAY.

IT REALLY MEANS A LOT TO ME AND IT TOUCHED MY HEART EVERY TIME I LISTEN TO THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON.

THAT WAS A SPIRITUAL SPEECH.

FOR THOSE THAT THAT LISTEN TO IT, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT GOD GAVE HIM THE VISION AND THE FORESIGHT OF WHAT WAS TO COME, AND.

AND, HE WAS PREPARED.

HE TOOK IT. BUT THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT, BROTHER.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

GREAT POINTS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER ESPECIALLY ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING L3 HARRIS BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS ONE WHO WAS HESITANT ON IF WE SHOULD BE GIVING THAT MUCH OF AN ABATEMENT, BUT I'M DEFINITELY HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME AND HOW WE WENT WITH THAT.

EARLIER THIS WEEK, I MET AT SUNRISE ELEMENTARY WITH, SOME OF THEIR STAFF, THE PRINCIPAL.

I WAS ABLE TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS THANKS TO OUR STAFF.

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REGARDING THE MERALOMA TRAFFIC LIGHT.

BUT ANOTHER THING THAT THEY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, MAYOR, WHICH, I KNOW A RESIDENT HAD MENTIONED TO YOU, WAS MICO SHUTTING DOWN BECAUSE OF BREVARD COUNTY AND WHAT THAT WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS AN IMPACT FOR THEM AND WHAT THE CITY CAN OR WILL DO.

AND I TOLD HIM, HEY, LET ME GET THAT BACK TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AND GET THAT TO STAFF AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT LIKE BAREFOOT.

HELP ME OUT. BAREFOOT, BAREFOOT BAY AND A FEW OTHER AREAS.

SO IT'S THE BRIDGE? YES. TO BE MORE. YES, YES.

MICO BRIDGE.

LET ME FIND IT. YEAH, 2.6 MILLION.

BRIDGE FOR, MICHAEL ROAD.

LOCAL OPTION. GAS TAX IS WHAT'S BEING UTILIZED.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME.

AND I HEARD THE I WALKED INTO THEIR MEETING EARLY, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL STUDIES AND EVERYTHING THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF TEACHERS, WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE KIDS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EXPECTING MORE KIDS NEXT YEAR, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO SPREAD THEM OUT. IT WAS TO THE POINT WHERE I SAW A FEW TEACHERS IN THE HALLS, DOING JANITORIAL WORK BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE MISSING CUSTODIANS.

SO THESE SCHOOLS ARE HEAVILY IMPACTED, TOO.

SO I JUST IT WAS EYE OPENING TO BE IN THERE AND SEE IT MYSELF.

BUT ALSO THEY THEY NEED SOME, I GUESS, INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ON WHAT WE'RE DOING TO HELP THEM OUT IN THE FUTURE, TO HELP THEM OUT WITH THE TRAFFIC.

YES. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YEAH.

BECAUSE ONCE THAT BRIDGE IS SHUT DOWN, THAT'S GOING TO BE.

YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WE MIGHT ALREADY HAVE A SOLUTION THAT I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP HERE.

WELL, THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DETOUR AND COME ACROSS VALKARIA COME NORTH OF US ONE TO.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THOUGH, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT.

AND WAS IT DISCUSSED ON ANY OPTIONS OF WHAT THE COUNTY WAS GOING TO DO OR NOBODY FROM THE COUNTY WAS THERE? SO I JUST TOOK THE INFORMATION AND I'M BRINGING IT HERE.

SO PERHAPS WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, TO, TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE REGARDING THE MICCO ROAD BRIDGE.

WELL, I GUESS FOR CLARIFICATION.

SO WE KNOW THAT THAT ROAD AND THAT BRIDGE ARE ALL PART OF THE COUNTY JURISDICTION, AND THAT THE SERVICE RESPONSE AREA INCLUDES BREVARD SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND BREVARD COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

SO WE, I'M SURE, WILL DO WHAT WE ALWAYS DO WHEN THERE'S A NEED IN ANOTHER JURISDICTION.

WE WILL COORDINATE AND HELP THEM AS MUCH AS THEY NEED US TO HELP.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU COULD PROVIDE SOME CLARITY.

WHAT WHAT YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR ME TO ACCOMPLISH WITH BREVARD COUNTY, SINCE IT'S THEIR PROJECT TO ASK IF THEY HAVE PLANS TO, YOU KNOW, REPLACE THE BRIDGE AND IF THEIR TIMELINE FOR THAT, BECAUSE THEY.

YEAH. SORRY. BECAUSE SUNRISE ELEMENTARY SEEMED TO BE IN THE BLIND ON A LOT IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT AREA.

SO MAYBE IF THEY, IF WE CAN TALK TO THE COUNTIES AND SAY, HEY, CAN SOMEBODY BE A POINT OF CONTACT WITH SUNRISE ELEMENTARY OR WITH THE PRINCIPAL OR SO WE CAN MAKE A CONNECTION IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

IF I HAD RECENTLY READ THE ARTICLE ABOUT IT, IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CLOSURE.

IF YOU GIVE ME A SECOND HERE, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND IT AGAIN.

IT'S AN 80 YEAR OLD BRIDGE, ABOUT 150 FAMILIES WHO LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION NEAR THERE WILL BE AFFECTED.

AND I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND EIGHT MONTHS THAT IT WOULD TAKE THEM TO DO THE FULL CONSTRUCTION TO MASSIVE PROJECT.

BUT CERTAINLY FOR THE SCHOOL, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, WE CAN GET A GOOD CONTACT FOR THEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I YIELD MY TIME.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, JOHNSON WAS SPOT ON WITH, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN ASKING SO MUCH OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS, TO INCLUDE, NOT ONLY ROAD REPAIRS, BUT EVEN NAVIGATING SOME FLOODING ISSUES AND CULVERT ISSUES.

AND I WANT TO TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO COMMEND THEM.

WHATEVER WE ASK FOR, THEY'RE JOHNNY ON THE SPOT, AND THEY THEY TRY TO FIX IT, WHETHER IT'S OUR JURISDICTION OR NOT.

SO KUDOS TO YOU, VALENTINO.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP, FRANK.

EVERYONE INVOLVED.

YOU GUYS ARE JOHNNY ON THE SPOT.

I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK GOD FOR PHIL WEINBERG.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

I KNOW YOU'VE HAD AN ISSUE WITH HEALTH, AND YOU JUST SUCCESSFULLY CAME BACK FROM THE HOSPITAL, BUT YOU'RE A TRUE BLESSING TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT YOU DO FOR US OF SACRIFICING YOUR TIME ON EVERY BOARD THAT YOU SIT, YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT WANTING ME TO SAY ANYTHING, BUT I'M SAYING THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS.

OR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY IS TO BE COMMENDED.

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SO THANK YOU.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY, MY REPORTS, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE THREE QUICK ITEMS. FIRST IS I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE EVERYONE WAS AWARE THAT THE CITY DID FINALIZE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HCI REGARDING THE COLD NIGHT SHELTER.

BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER PROJECTIONS FOR THIS SATURDAY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL BE OPENING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

ON SATURDAY NIGHTS, IT WILL BE OPEN FROM 6 P.M.

TO 6 A.M..

IT IS AT THE US COAST GUARD AUXILIARY BUILDING IN PALM BAY AT 1455 MAIN STREET, NORTHEAST.

AND WE'LL BE PUTTING SOME INFORMATION OUT ABOUT THAT, BUT I WANT.

LET YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS THAT IS OPERATIONAL.

THE SECOND TWO, THE OTHER TWO THINGS I WANT TO SHARE IS JUST SOME EVENTS CHANGES BECAUSE OF ALL THE RAIN WE'VE BEEN HAVING.

SO I KNOW COUNCIL IS AWARE, BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, THE INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR THIS SUNDAY, JANUARY 21ST, HAS BEEN MOVED TO FEBRUARY 3RD, AND THE CITY'S MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL IS MOVED FROM JANUARY 20TH 7TH TO MARCH 23RD.

AND THE PRIMARY REASON IS THE FIELDS.

THE AREAS THAT WE USE ARE JUST SO SATURATED THAT THEY WON'T DRY OUT IN TIME FOR THE EVENTS.

SO THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT, THERE THERE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THE MAYOR'S BALL, WHICH IS A FUNDRAISER TO SERENE HARBOR.

SO I WANTED TO, ASK THAT WE GIVE THEM GRACE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO SHUT DOWN AND BE ABLE TO COME TO THE, YOU KNOW, GET PREPARED FOR THE BALL.

JUST WANTED TO REQUEST THAT, MA'AM.

MAYOR, I FORGOT ONE MORE THING.

I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT ALFRED GARY TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, SIR.

GOTCHA. COPY THAT.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

OKAY, WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ARE THERE ANY CARDS? THE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES]

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

YOU KNOW HOW I GO THROUGH THE PACKET FOR THE AGENDA FOR THE MEETINGS? I REALLY DO GO THROUGH IT AND PAY ATTENTION.

LIKE I REALIZE THIS LAST ONE, IT WAS VERY CONFUSING FOR ME BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT THE CITIES, MODIFIED THE SOFTWARE.

SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE TYPE OF PERSON HE IS, HE IMMEDIATELY JUMPED IN HIS TRUCK AND RAN DOWN TO THE CITY HALL AND SAID, HELP AND TERESE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU YOU SAID, WELL, HERE'S WHERE IT'S AT, BILL, HERE'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.

AND DIDN'T MAKE IT ANY EASIER.

BUT I GOT AN HONEST ANSWER.

SOMETIMES THAT'S ALL YOU CAN GET.

DIDN'T MAKE IT ANY EASIER.

IT'S STILL VERY CONFUSING.

SO I HOPE WE'LL BE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO FIND MORE THINGS TO PICK ON YOU ABOUT, RIGHT WHEN IT COMES.

WHEN IT COMES TO THE STORMWATER AND IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOMES, I HAVE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

IT'S NOT A MASSIVE EXPENSE, BUT IT WOULD HELP.

AND THAT WAS ISSUE EVERYBODY A SHOVEL, LET THEM GO OUT THERE AND MAYBE DO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINTENANCE IN YOUR OWN FRONT YARD.

WHEN YOU SEE IT, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SOLVE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS. IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE BIG ONE, BUT GO AHEAD.

AND YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

WHEN YOU GO TO MY HOUSE, THE WATER IS FLOWING LIKE A DREAM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO IT MEETS MY MEETS MY NEIGHBORS.

AND THEN HE'S EVEN WORKING A LITTLE BIT ON HIS OUT TO THE OUTFALL TO THE CITY'S CANAL, THEN INTO THE TILLMAN CANAL.

SO WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS MORE THAT COULD BE DONE.

BUT A SHOVEL IN THE INDIVIDUAL'S HAND, YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH A LOT.

MAYBE NOT FAST, BUT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH A LOT, RIGHT? ALL RIGHT. FUNDING FOR THE SEPTIC UPGRADES.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT MANDATORY HOOKUP AFTER THIS LAST PRESENTATION.

I DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT WITHIN SEVEN YEARS OF WHAT WAS PROPOSED, $20,000 EXPENDITURE FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S ON SEPTIC, EVERYBODY IN PALM BAY, THAT'S WHAT WAS PRESENTED.

THAT'S A BIG CHUNK FOR A FAMILY TO HAVE TO PUT OUT.

I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF FUNDING SOURCE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MANDATE THAT CHANGE.

AND WITH THAT, THE ELEVATION.

THE NEW SYSTEMS HAVE DIFFERENT ELEVATIONS THAN THE FLOOR ELEVATION OF YOUR CURRENT HOME.

YOU MIGHT BE HAVING TO TEAR YOUR WHOLE ENTIRE HOME DOWN TO MEET YOUR NEW SEPTIC GUIDELINES.

I'M JUST MAKING IT KNOWLEDGE NOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S OUT THERE.

THE GUIDELINES ARE SET FOR WHAT THE NEW SEPTIC SYSTEMS HAVE TO BE, HOW HIGH THEY HAVE TO BE, AND IT'S BASED ON YOUR WATER TABLE OF YOUR WATER TABLE.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHERE OUR WATER TABLE IS RIGHT NOW.

IT'S ABOVE THE STREET LEVEL.

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REMEMBER, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN SEVEN YEARS.

AND THAT'S THREE QUARTERS OF THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE ROADS.

YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO BE WORRYING ABOUT THE SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO BE MANDATED BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL.

RANDALL OLSZEWSKI, 348 BROOK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.

I'D FIRST LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT OR DOUBLE CLICK, IF YOU WILL, THE, FLOODING CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY IN THE LOCK BAR AREA.

I BROUGHT SOME TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF TODAY.

THE EXPEDITIOUSLY ISSUED ME A WORK ORDER.

TONIGHT'S CONVERSATIONS LET ME KNOW JUST HOW FAR BACK THAT WORK ORDER IS GOING TO BE.

BUT THERE'S A SEVERE PROBLEM IN LOCK, MA.

AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MR. COOK DID GREAT BRINGING US SOME PHOTOS, BUT I THINK IT'S ONE YOU GUYS NEED TO JIVE.

YOU NEED TO DRIVE TO LOCK MORE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND YOU NEED TO SEE HOW COMPLETELY INUNDATED WITH WATER IT IS AFTER A FEW JANUARY RAINSTORMS. IF WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT RAIN EVENT THIS SUMMER, KNOCK ON WOOD THAT WE DON'T, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE.

FOLKS. I'M SEEING PEOPLE'S YARDS THAT NEVER HAVE SEEN WATER COME TO CERTAIN AREAS.

NOW COME TO CERTAIN PARTS OF THE YARD THAT'S IN LAMAR, THAT'S IN A WELL ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S NOT DUE TO SCATTERED LOT CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

IT'S DUE TO FAIL.

CULVERTS FAILED, SWALES FAILED, CONNECTIONS TO CANALS.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT LOCK MORE COMPREHENSIVELY.

WHICH LEADS ME INTO MY SECOND POINT.

FOLKS IN CAR LOOPS NEED TO TEACH THEIR CHILDREN HOW TO BE GOOD CITIZENS BY BEING GOOD CITIZENS.

SO WHEN YOU'RE IN THE CAR LOOP, WHETHER IT'S FOR LAMAR ELEMENTARY OR PINEAPPLE COVE, THAT'S IN LAMAR, IF YOU'RE IN MY CAR, LOOP OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, CHRISTA MCAULIFFE ELEMENTARY.

WHAT'S HAPPENING? DUE TO THE CHAOS THAT IS ANY MORNING CAR LOOP IS TO CIRCUMVENT AND TRY TO GET AROUND THINGS AND TRY TO BE AGGRESSIVE, WHICH IS NOT GOOD CITIZENSHIP.

AND WE SHOULDN'T TEACH OUR YOUNG ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN.

FOLKS ARE CUTTING CORNERS SHORT.

SO I BROUGHT IT UP MULTIPLE TIMES THAT MR. WATANABE SHOWED US THE PICTURES OF AMERICANA.

AMERICANA IS BEING DEFACED BY THE MORNING TRAFFIC OF CHRISTA MCAULIFFE ELEMENTARY.

LAMAR IS BEING DEFACED BY THE LAMAR ELEMENTARY TRAFFIC.

BECAUSE THE FOLKS ARE PULLING INTO THE DITCHES AND LETTING THEIR KIDS RUN OFF INTO SCHOOL.

THEY'RE DRIVING IN THE DITCH AND TAKING THE BIKE OUT OF THE TRUNK, WHATEVER IT IS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENT IN BOTH SCHOOL ZONES.

I'VE ACTUALLY SEEN SOME, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME INFORMATIONAL, TOURS, IF YOU WILL.

BUT THE DAMAGE THAT'S HAPPENING TO THE GRASS, TO THE DITCH IS EXTENDING INTO HAPPENING TO THE ROADS.

SO WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE THESE ROADS ARE.

AND AMERICANA IS BECOMING SEVERELY DAMAGED BY THE DE ALCANTARA.

THIS IS THE ROAD WITH THE NURSERY IS BECOMING SEVERELY DAMAGED BY THE DAY BECAUSE OF THE CAR LOOP TRAFFIC.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS ARE BEING CARELESS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO TO PREVENT IT BESIDES ADVOCATE THAT THEY BE GOOD CITIZENS, BUT WHAT CAN WE DO TO FIX IT? HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SO THAT THE CORNERS DON'T HAVE HOLES FOR THEIR TIRES TO FALL INTO? THOSE SOCCER MOMS AND THOSE MINIVANS, THEY DON'T CARE IF THE TIRE GOES IN, THEY DON'T EVEN FEEL IT.

BUT EVERY TIME THAT TIRE FALLS INTO THE CORNER AND DIGS THAT HOLE A LITTLE DEEPER, MORE WATER GOES INTO IT BECOMES MORE CAMOUFLAGED.

THE NEXT CAR DIGS INTO IT.

THEN WHEN EVERYTHING GOES OUT, YOU HAVE A BROKEN CORNER ON A BRAND NEW ROAD.

I'M VERY CONCERNED.

I LIVE IN PHASE FIVE.

I DON'T THINK THAT I'M GOING TO GET ANYTHING BUT A NICE PAINT JOB ON MY ROAD, THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE GOING, AND THAT TROUBLES ME BECAUSE I'M PAYING FOR ALL THIS GROWTH THAT'S HAPPENING. THAT'S TO OUR DETRIMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON A LOT MORE ISSUE.

I KNOW THAT I'VE HAD EMAILS AND SO ARE WE HOLISTICALLY LOOKING AT AT THIS, MADAM SHERMAN.

YES, SIR. IT'S A CITYWIDE PROBLEM.

YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE.

ALFIE? AND THEN, MR. STICE. GOOD NIGHT, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL AND STAFF.

IT'S ALFRED GOREY FROM 1680 MAIN STREET NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

I MUST SAY, I'M REALLY APPRECIATE THAT APPOINTMENT.

AND, I'M HONORED TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS.

I WILL ALWAYS TRY TO.

ASSISTS. YOU KNOW, DONATE, CONTRIBUTE TO OUR CITY BECAUSE, VOLUNTEERS.

VERY IMPORTANT. AS YOU SAID IN EARLY ON WHEN THE MEETINGS ARE STARTED, IT'S GOOD TO VOLUNTEER FOR OUR CITY.

I GOT 13 GRANDCHILDREN LIVING IN THE CITY, AND MY GOAL IS TO ASSIST IN ANY WAY I CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.

NOT FOR ME, BUT MAYBE FOR THE GRANDKIDS.

AND AS I SAID BEFORE, WITH THIS NEW PARK YOU'RE PUTTING UP, SACRIFICE PARK.

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YOU KNOW, I'M A VENDOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND I'LL MAKE SURE I HELP OUT THE BEST I CAN.

THANKS. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO, SIR.

MRS. ROBERT STANDISH, 1796.

ONE BOOK DRIVE. I'LL BE BRIEF.

WELL, YOU'VE GOT SOME DRAGONS TO SLAY WITH REGARD TO SEPTIC, BUT, JUST SOME MINOR THINGS I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHEN YOU CHATTED ABOUT CONCEALED CARRY, I'M STILL DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION ON THAT.

I HAD TO COME UP TO THE CITY AND GET SOME WORK DONE.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE BUILDING.

MAYBE I MISSED IT.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN WHEN YOU PASS CONCEALED CARRY FOR CITY EMPLOYEES OR WHAT HAVE YOU? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART.

NUMBER TWO, I KNOW, COMMANDER JEFFREY SPEARS IS WORKING ON IT, BUT I WAS AT THAT LITTLE RESTAURANT IN MELBOURNE, AND THEY HAVE A NICE LITTLE POLICE BLOTTER HERE FOR THE CITY OF MELBOURNE. I'M CURIOUS AS TO IF WE'RE STILL WORKING ON A POLICE BLOTTER OR SOMETHING ONLINE TO TELL THE FOLKS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. YOU NORMALLY WOULD SEE THAT IN SO MANY LITTLE NEWSPAPERS HERE JUST SAYS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WHO'S BEEN ARRESTED, WHO'S ON FIRST, WHAT KIND OF ISSUES THEY HAD.

IT'S ABOUT 3 OR 4 PARAGRAPHS IN HERE.

IT'S A POLICE REPORT.

WE SHOULD BE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A NEWSPAPER, WE SHOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE SOMETHING ONLINE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.

WHAT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY ARRESTED FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT OR A SEXUAL PREDATOR, YOU'D WANT TO KNOW.

SO WHY CAN'T WE GET SOME OF THAT STUFF MOVING? AS FAR, WE CALLED IT A POLICE BLOTTER, IN THE PAST.

SO IF YOU CAN CHAT ABOUT THAT AND THEN, SUZANNE SHERMAN I KNOW YOU WERE LOOKING AT A, OH, MY GOD, WHAT WAS IT CALLED, AN ORDINANCE? I THINK THAT WOULD MANDATE, THE THE OWNER OF THE FORMER MAJORS TO TREAT THE PONDS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS NO ORDINANCE ON THAT AT ALL.

I THINK YOU WERE WORKING ON THAT, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

SO IF WE CAN GET A HEADS UP ON THAT.

AND BY THE WAY, ON ON A SIDE NOTE, I MISSED IT.

I JUST CONVERTED. I THREW OUT, DIRECT TV AFTER 16 YEARS, AND I WENT TO YOUTUBE AND TRIED TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT I COULDN'T SEE THE TICKER TAPE OF WHAT CITY THEY WERE CHATTING ABOUT.

BUT HERE IN CENTRAL FLORIDA, AS SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, BUILDING HOUSES MUCH HIGHER THAN THE EXISTING HOUSE NEXT TO IT, AND I FORGET WHAT THE NAME OF THE CITY WAS, BUT THEY THEY DECIDED TO HAVE TO PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE, TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MENTIONING.

YOU MAY WANT TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT.

SO I'M INTERESTED IN WHATEVER COMMENTS YOU HAVE.

SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION, SIR.

WITH THE CONCEALED CARRY.

WHAT WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS.

WELL, MY QUESTION IS WHAT WHAT WAS THAT VOTE ABOUT CONCEALED CARRY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO ME AND FELLOW CITIZENS? I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL.

IF YOU COULD JUST SHARE WHAT THAT MEANT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THERE'S NO SIGN OR ANYTHING.

I THOUGHT I'D SEE SOMETHING WHEN I WALKED IN THE BUILDING AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING.

SO THAT GOT ME TO THINKING.

ALL RIGHT, SIR? YEAH.

I'M NOT GOING TO WALK IN HERE.

OKAY. MADAM SHERMAN OR.

YEAH. MADAM SHERMAN.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

SO THE POLICY WE CREATED WAS FOR EMPLOYEES AND HOW THEY HANDLE CONCEALED CARRY, ASPECTS RELATED TO THEIR SPECIFIC JOB.

SO THAT WAS WHAT THE POLICY WAS FOR, NOT FOR, PRIVATE CITIZENS.

IT WAS FOR EMPLOYEES.

OF COURSE, WHATEVER THE FLORIDA STATUTE SAYS ABOUT YOU AS A CONCEALED CARRY, INDIVIDUAL WOULD APPLY ON CITY HALL, CAMPUS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, CITY ATTORNEY WAS REFERENCING, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T BRING A CONCEALED A CONCEALED CARRY WEAPON INTO A COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

SO BUT BUT AGAIN, THAT THE REASON YOU DON'T SEE ANY SIGNS IS BECAUSE THE POLICY WAS FOR STAFF.

IT WASN'T FOR THE PUBLIC.

REGARDING THE POLICE BLOTTER, WE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT PARTICULARLY, BUT I KNOW THE LOCAL HOMETOWN NEWS THAT GETS DROPPED OFF AT, DRIVEWAYS IN PALM BAY.

IT DOES INCLUDE OFTEN REFERENCES TO THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN PALM BAY.

IF YOU'D LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON SOME OF THAT I'M SURE YOU CAN GET WITH, POLICE CHIEF AND THEN THE POND MAINTENANCE, ORDINANCE, STAFF HAS INFORMED ME THAT THE DRAFT HAS BEEN CREATED.

I THINK BECAUSE OF SOME STAFFING CHANGES, IT GOT KIND OF BACK BURNERED WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES IN PLANNER STAFF, BUT IT IS ON THE LIST, AND I BELIEVE WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TO THE MARCH, PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AGAIN.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND WE DO PROVIDE PRESS RELEASES ON EVENTS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY GOING OUT, YOU KNOW, STAYING YOU KNOW, KEEPING THESE EVENTS OUT IN PUBLIC.

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ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEANS.

ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.