ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR MEETING OF 2020 401 FOR JANUARY.
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JANUARY 24TH IS FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL? LOGAN. LEWIS. LUCE HERE.
REBECCA ZIEGLER HERE, JANE HIGGINS HERE, SUSAN CONNELLY HERE.
LET'S SEE. SO, WE DID ROLL CALLS.
SO NOW THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES, WE HAVE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF, 09-2023, SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2023.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]
IF EVERYONE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW, AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 2023.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A SECOND.
SO, ALL, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
SAME SIGN. AND I VOTE IN FAVOR.
AND THE ADOPT OR THE MOTION PASSES FOR THE MINUTES FOR 20, 2309.
AND THEN NEXT WE HAVE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES, 20 2311 WHICH WAS NOVEMBER 30TH, 2023.
AND IF WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT. AWESOME.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION. WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE.
AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. HEARING NONE.
SO MOTION PASSES TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FOR NOVEMBER 2023.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE THING.
THE MINUTES ARE VERY, VERY GOOD.
WE'VE HAD A CHANGE IN SUPPORT STAFF FOR OUR BOARD, AND I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT.
IS THAT YOU, CHRISTINE? ALL OF YOU, WILL GIVE CREDIT TO.
THEY'RE VERY DETAILED, AND IT REALLY NOTATES WHAT WE'RE DOING AS WELL AS FOR FUTURE.
IT REALLY CAPTURES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CARRIE'S BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB FOR US.
YES. THANK YOU. IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE STAFF AT EACH OF THESE MEETINGS.
WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE GOT GOING ON.
AWESOME. SO WE HAVE THOSE TWO ITEMS OF BUSINESS OUT OF THE WAY NOW WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS:]
LET'S HEAR IT. MR.. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO ADDRESS.
THEY'RE ALL TIED TOGETHER, BUT IT ALL REVOLVES AROUND THE CONVERSION OR CONVERTING OR CONNECT CONVERSION OR CONNECTING TO THE CITY'S SEWER SYSTEM. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THERE'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, WHICH ISN'T THAT VERY FAR AWAY.
MANDATORY CONVERSION FROM PEOPLE ON THE OLD SYSTEMS OF SEPTICS TO THE NEW AERATED SEPTIC SYSTEMS. RIGHT NOW, SINCE THIS IS A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, I WANT TO BE LOOKING AT SOME.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS WHAT IS THE PERCENT OF EFFICIENCY FROM THE OLD SYSTEMS TO THE NEW SYSTEMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROCESS OF CONVERTING IT.
WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE END RESULT? HOW MUCH ARE WE ACTUALLY GAINING FROM THAT EXPENSE?
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THE COST OF THE NEW SYSTEMS, THE AERATED SYSTEMS AFTER THEY'RE AFTER THEY'RE INSTALLED, IT STILL REQUIRES A $500 ANNUAL MAINTENANCE OF IT STILL REQUIRES AN ANNUAL PUMP OUT, WHICH DEFEATS THE PURPOSE, BY MY STANDARDS, OF A SEPTIC TANK.AND IT ALSO REQUIRES AN ANNUAL INSPECTION AND EXPENSE OF THE HOMEOWNERS.
SECOND ITEM ON THAT ONE IS THE COST TO CONVERT YOUR SYSTEM TO THE NEW SYSTEM WAS 15,000 TO 30,000, DEPENDING ON THE STATUS OF YOUR DRAIN FIELD.
SO ME BEING THE PERSON I AM, MY GLASS IS NEVER HALF FULL.
I WOULD LOOK AT THE $30,000 FOR THE CONVERSION, FOR THE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.
THAT HAPPENS TO BE ABOUT 75% OF THE RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY FOR THIS CHANGE.
ITEM NUMBER THREE REGARDING THIS ELEVATION IS DETERMINED BY THE BOARD OF HEALTH.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE SETTING.
WHAT LEVEL DO YOU HAVE TO BE? AND THEN YOUR FLOOR HAS TO BE SIX INCHES ABOVE THAT.
AND THAT DETERMINE IS COMING FROM THE BOARD OF HEALTH.
NOW, ME BEING THE IDIOT I AM, SOME OF THESE HOMES WERE BUILT 60, 70 YEARS AGO AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.
WELL, NOW THE BOARD OF HEALTH IS SAYING YOUR SEPTIC TANK HAS TO BE AT THIS LEVEL.
NOW, DOES THAT MEAN YOU TEAR DOWN YOUR HOME, BUILD A NEW HOUSE TO MEET THE ELEVATION OF A NEW ONE? SO WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT GOVERNING BODIES THAT ARE NOW SETTING CRITERIA FOR THE SINGLE ONE ITEM.
I SEE CONFLICT OF THAT COMING IN IN THE FUTURE WITH THAT HIGHER ELEVATION THAT WE'RE GETTING.
IT ALSO MEANS A FASTER RUNOFF INTO THE SWELL, RIGHT? FASTER RUNOFF MEANS QUICKER FILLING UP OF YOUR SWELLS, WHICH MEANS.
BUT NOW WE HAVE A FASTER INFLUX.
THE END RESULT IS THE SWELLS ARE FILLING UP FASTER.
AND WHAT DOES IT DO? IT FLOODS OUT INTO THE PEOPLE'S YARDS AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
WELL, WHAT'S IN THE YARDS OF THESE HOMES THAT ARE NOW FLOODING OUT? BECAUSE WE CAN'T DRAIN THE WATER FAST ENOUGH.
THAT'S WHERE YOUR DRAIN FIELD IS FOR YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO NOW YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT FOR EVERY ACTION, YOU HAVE A REACTION.
THE MANDATORY CONNECTION TO SEWER LINE.
IF IT'S NOT AVAILABLE WITHIN SEVEN YEARS, WE'LL SPEND $30,000 FOR THE HOMEOWNER RESIDENT.
BUT THEN THE CITY IS ALSO TRYING TO EXPAND ITS SEWER SYSTEMS AND LINES.
HOOKUP IS GOVERNED BY THE NEW GUIDANCE.
SO THAT'S MORE THAN SOME PEOPLE'S HOMES, RIGHT? SO I REQUEST THAT YOU LOOK AT WAYS TO EXPAND CITY SEWER THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BECAUSE IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT $60,000 POTENTIAL, LOOK TO SEE IF YOU COULD USE THAT FOR SOME FORM OF MECHANISM TO EXPAND SEWER THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
THAT'S A LOT FOR $600 MILLION.
I THINK THE CITY COULD END UP PUTTING IN A LOT OF SEWER LINES.
NOW, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I KNOW THE OBJECTIVE.
I KNOW WHAT'S TRYING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.
IT'S TRYING TO HAVE A LESS IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
BUT LET'S NOT CUT OUR OWN THROATS TRYING TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR WHATEVER LITTLE PERCENT OF GAIN WE HAVE, BECAUSE THE DATA IS SHOWING THAT THE CHANGES WE'RE MAKING AREN'T MAKING THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE IN THE URL RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER BILL.
AND WITH THAT, I KNOW YOU'RE AT THE, WHAT IS IT? INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERSIGHT MEETING TWO DAYS AGO, I THINK, AND THERE'S TALK ABOUT UTILITIES BRINGING BEING BROUGHT INTO THAT BOARD OR, SOME KIND OF ASPECT OF THAT.
AND MAYBE THAT WOULD BE UTILITIES COMING IN AND DOING A PRESENTATION TYPE SO WE CAN GET MORE OF AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE AND COST SHARE GRANTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF. BUT I DEFINITELY THINK, YOUR VOICE IS BEING HEARD.
I KNOW YOU SPEAK AT COUNCIL MEETINGS AND AT THE ADVISORY MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
DEFINITELY TOPIC GOING FORWARD WITH OUR LAGOON, WITH OUR, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND SUCH.
SO, DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FOR SURE.
AND I APPRECIATE YOU, SHARING YOUR, YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR, YOUR VOICE ON THAT TOPIC.
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DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAVE A QUESTION, BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC OF DISCUSSION SINCE THAT, COUNCIL MEETING, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.AND, SO IT'S IS IT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR COMING UP WITH THE OVERALL PLAN OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN? AND, YOU KNOW, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVERSION? YES. NO, THAT WOULD BE THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT OKAY.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY WOULD DO A PRESENTATION.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS CONFUSION OUT IN THE GENERAL PUBLIC ABOUT HOW WOULD THIS TRANSPIRE, HOW WOULD THIS HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, AND I'VE SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BUILD A LOT OF TREATMENT PLANS.
THERE'S IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY A TOPIC THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I'M NOT SURE SPECIFICALLY PALM BAY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAPPENS MORE NORTHERN.
BUT I MEAN, WE'RE HAVING WHAT IS IT, 4000 NEW HOMES, I THINK SOUTH OR WEST OF HERITAGE PARKWAY.
SO WHICH IS THE CITY OF MELBOURNE? SO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LARGER INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF.
SO I KNOW STAFF AND THE CITY IS REALLY WORKING ON THAT, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AS CITIZENS BOARD AND OTHER BOARDS, OVERSIGHTS AND SUCH, TO BE ABLE TO TACKLE THAT AND GIVE THE VOICE OF THE CITIZENS.
SO MR. BATTEN WAS VERY DETAILED.
CAN WE DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE SOMEBODY TO RESEARCH SOME OF THE QUESTIONS HE'S POSED? YEAH. I THINK, UNDER OTHER BUSINESS, UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS OF INTEREST, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO BRING UP DOING, LIKE, A PRESENTATION OF THE SEPTIC TO SEWER, MAYBE INVITE UTILITIES TO COME AND TALK.
AND I THINK WITH THEM COMING AND ADDRESSING THAT, WE'LL GET A LOT OF THOSE ANSWERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANTS TO LEAVE HIS NOTES.
TOP SECRET? OTHER NOTES. AND I DON'T WANT PEOPLE READING.
IF SHOULD BE MADE AVAILABLE WITHIN THE MINUTES.
DID WE CAPTURE IT BECAUSE THE ONLY, THE ONLY, QUESTION I DID NOT GET DETAIL ON WAS THE SECOND ONE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU MIND RESTATING THAT REALLY QUICKLY OR.
TO DO WITH THE COST OF CONVERSION FROM 15 TO 30.
CORRECT THE ESTIMATED BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THE CONVERSION IN THE PRESENTATION THEY GAVE THE.
AND IT WAS DEPENDENT UPON YOUR YOU BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE YOUR CURRENT DRAIN FIELD.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE THE VARIATION AND CHANGE WAS.
THAT WAS JUST IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
AND THAT WAS JUST A VERY QUICK PRESENTATION.
THERE'S A LOT I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES TO IT.
AND I'VE REQUESTED FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE WHERE I COULD GET A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH INTO WHAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM FROM THAT YET WHERE I COULD GET SOME MORE INFORMATION.
I'M JUST HOPING THAT SOMEBODY ELSE WILL TAKE IN, BECAUSE THEN THAT'LL MAKE YOU THE BAD GUY.
INSTEAD OF JUST BILL BATTEN SAYING, I DON'T WANT YOU DOING IT.
THANKS, BILL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO NEW BUSINESS CONSIDERATION OF SELECTING A CHAIR.
[NEW BUSINESS:]
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS.SO I. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A MOTION, BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE LOGAN LUCE FOR CHAIR.
I ACCEPT. AS YOUR SECOND ON THAT.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? HEARING NONE. WE'LL CLOSE NOMINATIONS AND GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH THE VOTE.
ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY OR SAME SIGN.
HEARING NONE. AND I VOTE IN FAVOR AS WELL.
THANK YOU ALL. REALLY EXCITED.
ALWAYS LOVE BEING ABLE TO CHAIR AND HELP, IN THIS PROCESS AND CONTINUE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.
SO, I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION TO STAFF.
TYPICALLY, MY UNDERSTANDING OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER IS WHEN THE VACANCY OF VICE CHAIR OR SUCH HAPPENS, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO FILL THAT ROLE, SINCE IT'S NOT A I WOULD THINK IT'S NOT AN ITEM OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE COME BEFORE THE PUBLIC OF LIKE A CERTAIN TOPIC.
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IT'S MORE OF AN ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GO AHEAD AND DO NOW, OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE ON A MINUTES OR ON AN AGENDA THAT'S PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC BEFORE? I BELIEVE YOU CAN DO IT NOW.
IF I'M MISTAKEN, WE CAN BRING IT BACK AGAIN NEXT MONTH FOR DISCUSSION.
OKAY. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR, VICE CHAIR, FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
I WOULD NOMINATE, MR. KEVIN SMITH. IF HE WOULD ACCEPT NOMINATION, I WOULD ACCEPT.
OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS OR ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY? DO I HEAR A SECOND FOR A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND.
SO, ALL IN FAVOR? SO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
ALL IN FAVOR, FOR MISTER KEVIN SMITH.
ALL RIGHT AND I VOTE I SO IT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO CONGRATULATIONS, MR. SMITH. VICE CHAIR SMITH THANK YOU.
WELL, AWESOME. WELL, THAT, IS GOOD TO GO ON THE NEW ITEM OF BUSINESS.
[OTHER BUSINESS: ]
SO FIRST UP IS NEMO CIRCLE COMMUNITY GARDEN.WE DISCUSSED THAT LAST TIME AS TO KIND OF.
I THINK THE OBJECTIVE THERE WAS.
THE VOLUNTEER BASE THAT WAS THERE WANTS TO RELINQUISH IT OR THERE'S NOT A VOLUNTEER BASE.
I THINK WAS THE UNDERSTANDING LAST TIME AND KIND OF WHAT ARE THE THOUGHTS OF THE BOARD OF HOW WE COULD UTILIZE THAT SPACE, FOR EDUCATION OR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT OR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT.
WELL, WE WERE HAVING IT, HOPING TO GET THE, BYLAWS OF THAT GROUP, BECAUSE WE'RE GUESSING THAT IN THOSE BYLAWS THERE'S PROBABLY SOME CONSTRAINTS ON THE AMOUNT OF EDIBLES VERSUS NON EDIBLES AND AND REALLY, HOW MUCH LEEWAY DO WE HAVE? THAT'S MY BIG QUESTION BEFORE I GET TOO EXCITED ABOUT.
WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT, CHRIS.
CHRISTINE. I DO HAVE INFORMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE BOARD VIA EMAIL, WHICH SHOULD GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
I HAVE THE ORIGINAL 2010 LEGISLATIVE MEMO BRINGING UP THE COMMUNITY GARDENING PROGRAM, AND I DO HAVE SOME DRAFT BYLAWS FROM THE NEMO COMMUNITY GARDEN.
I BELIEVE I HAVE ACCESS TO THE FINALIZED BYLAWS AND OTHER INFORMATION REGARDING THE THE NEMO, SPECIFICALLY THE NEMO COMMUNITY GARDEN.
SO I WILL GET THAT PUT TOGETHER AND SENT TO YOU WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
BEFORE I DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ERIC BLUNT TO.
HE VISITED THE NEMO AND HE WAS TALKING TO ME ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE CURRENTLY THERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE START WITH THAT AND THEN GO TO THE IDEAS NEXT.
OKAY. WHEN I, WHEN I VISITED THERE, THERE'S IT'S BASICALLY FENCED OFF WHEN YOU WALK IN, THERE'S LIKE A GAZEBO OFF TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
THERE'S SIX, SET UP SEPARATE GARDENS.
THEY'RE JUST MADE OUT OF CINDER BLOCKS.
IT'S PROBABLY SEVEN BY FIVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S GOT A GENERATOR IN IT, A WATER PUMP, A WELL, ALL THAT STUFF IS IN THERE.
LAYING ON THE GROUND BACK IN THERE.
LOOKS LIKE AN OLD WINDMILL OR SOMETHING WAS LAID DOWN.
PICNIC BENCHES, PICNIC TABLES.
YOU, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH WALK ON THE PATH.
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AND WHEN YOU GET TOWARDS THE BACK, THE THERE'S SOME BIGGER OAK TREES THAT HAVE THE GROUND SHADED.SO THERE'S NOT MUCH GROWING UNDER THERE.
BUT YEAH. DO YOU THINK THE WATER, SOURCE WORKS? I MEAN, JUST ANY IDEA? I WOULD HAVE NO IDEA, BUT I.
YEAH, I NOTICED I SEEN SOME RAIN BARRELS THERE, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF IT WAS JUST THE RAIN FEEDING IT OR THERE'S NO, OTHER WAY TO FEED WATER INTO THEM.
YEAH, I DIDN'T I DID NOT LOOK, I DIDN'T, I DID NOT NOTICE IT.
ARE ANY OF THE GARDENS BEING MAINTAINED? ANY OF THE LITTLE PLOTS THAT SAUL ABANDONED? YEAH. YEAH.
AND THEY'RE, THERE'S NOTHING IN THEM.
YEAH. AND IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN ABANDONED FOR QUITE A WHILE.
I THINK IT STARTED, JANE, YOU LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S IN. WHAT'S THE NAME OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD? LAKE MAR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IT STARTED IT WAS VERY ACTIVE WITH BOY SCOUTS AND AND IT'S, SUCH AN OLD PROJECT NOW.
SO I THINK IT COULD HAVE MANY USES.
AND I FOR SURE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS GROUP REVITALIZE IT IN SOME WAYS.
I JUST DID SOME TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST THERE.
WE HAVE, CAMILLE HADLEY, WHO'S WELL KNOWN SHE HAS LITTLE GROWERS, SO SHE'S HAS A PROGRAM FOR COMMUNITY GARDENING THAT'S BEEN DONE IN MELBOURNE.
AND, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, SOME OF MY IDEAS WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BASIN 13 YET, WHICH IS ABOUT PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS AND THE THE WHOLE IDEA OF BEGINNING TO USE PLANTS IN SWALES.
AND SO I WAS THINKING, WHY NOT GROW THE PLANTS THAT WILL BE USED IN THE SWALES OR USE THAT SPACE MAYBE FOR, COMPOSTING.
THERE'S KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THAT COMPOSTING PROGRAM THAT, SEEMS TO BE SLOW GETTING STARTED, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
AND HERE'S THIS LAND, AND IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY, AND, IT'S JUST, IF NOTHING ELSE, IT NEEDS TO BE, VISUAL, SOMETHING VISUAL, EDUCATIONAL.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE AREA THAT MAYBE IF WE CAN'T GET A VOLUNTEER GROUP TO DO IT, THAT MAYBE THAT COULD BECOME A STILL CITY OWNED, BUT LIKE A LAND LAB, FOR, FOR A SCHOOL, AND THEY COULD PLANT GARDENS, THEY COULD DO HORTICULTURE, THEY COULD GET GRANTS AND DO A GREENHOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO WHERE THEY COULD LEARN THE ASPECT OF KIND OF THAT TRADE ASPECT, WITH HORTICULTURE OR SUCH.
I DON'T THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT ANY ANIMALS JUST BY ORDINANCES OR THE SIZE OF THE PLOT.
BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER WAY.
IF WE CAN'T BE ABLE TO GROW THE PLANTS AND STUFF FOR THE SWELLS AND WHATNOT.
BUT I JUST THINK IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WHILE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, TO LEARN THOSE SKILLS.
AND I THINK THOSE ARE DEFINITELY TRADE SKILLS THAT NEED TO CONTINUE TO BE ADDRESSED AND, UTILIZED THROUGHOUT SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY YOUNGER GENERATIONS, TO KNOW WHERE FOOD COMES FROM OR THE PROCESS OF THAT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER OPTION DEPENDING ON THE BYLAWS AND WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.
SO WOULD BE DISCUSSION LATER ON AND ALSO A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
SO AND EVEN IF IT'S A PUBLIC SCHOOL BUT OR A PRIVATE SCHOOL BUT TWO SCHOOLS THERE, THERE'S LOCHMOR ELEMENTARY WHICH THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF LAND IF THEY WANTED TO DO THEIR OWN GARDEN.
BUT THEN THE OTHER BIGGER SCHOOL IS PINEAPPLE COVE THAT JUST OPENED UP, AND THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE LAND FOR A GARDEN, SO THEY MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEY'RE CLOSE. THEY'RE VERY CLOSE.
THEY'RE ON THAT SAME SIDE OF EMERSON, PROBABLY ABOUT TWO, MAYBE THREE BLOCKS AS THE CROW FLIES.
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BUT YEAH, WELL, IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT SHOT AS THE PROBLEM, BUT IT'S NOT FAR.IT'S JUST, YOU GOT TO WIND YOUR WAY OVER THERE, BUT YEAH.
AND SO MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE COULD DO.
THE PROXIMITY OF PINEAPPLE COVE WOULD BE A BIG ADVANTAGE.
MY MOTHER IN LAW'S A SCIENCE TEACHER THERE, AND MY WIFE'S AN ART TEACHER.
THERE WE GO. WELL, BUT I ALSO CONSIDER, HERITAGE HAS A, BUT IT'S JUST THE DISTANCE WOULD BE A CHALLENGE, BUT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ASSET.
BUT THEY HAVE A WATER QUALITY PROGRAM THERE.
I, BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE OUT THERE.
BUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT AGENDA ITEM? IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH A LOT OF VERY BIG OAK TREES.
IT'S I NEVER QUITE UNDERSTOOD HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GROW EDIBLES WITH THAT MUCH SHADE.
BUT WE LOVE THE SHADE. WE DON'T WANT TO GET RID OF THE SHADE.
SO NEMO CIRCLE IS WHERE IT'S AT? YES. I'M GOING TO DROP OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AWESOME. AND, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ITEM UNDER OTHER BUSINESS.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'M GOING TO MEMORIZE THAT ADDRESS ONE DAY.
IT MEANS THAT SOME OF THEM WILL TAKE IT AS EXTRA CREDIT, SOME WILL TAKE IT AS WHATEVER.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE WHAT WOULD BE NICE ABOUT IT IS IF YOU HAVE ONE SOURCE THAT'S LOOKING AT WATER QUALITY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GENERATE PLANTS, YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE SOME OF THE PLANTS AND SAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE A SUSTAINABLE THAT ARE GOING TO GO INTO SWELL RETENTION AND STUFF.
AND YOU COULD REALLY TURN IT INTO A VERY GOOD, VERY NICE SCIENCE PROJECT.
INSTEAD OF, LOOK, I GREW THIS TOMATO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
THANK YOU. THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
I THINK JUST WITH 20 YEARS IN THIS VERY REALM, IT'S SCHOOLS ARE SO CYCLICAL WITH YOU GET A TOP NOTCH. AND I'M NOT GOING TO COMPARE.
LET'S JUST SAY THEY'RE TOP NOTCH.
BUT YOU GET A TEACHER THAT THAT'S THEIR INTEREST AND THAT'S THEIR SPECIALTY.
AND YOU HAVE THEM FOR FIVE YEARS.
AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
AND THAT WOULD TAKE PARTNERSHIPS BEYOND JUST THE SCHOOLS.
WHETHER IT BE A KBB THING OR, YOU KNOW, WE COULD WE COULD OFFSHOOT SOME COMPOST IN THERE.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES FOR IT, SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING OUT AND SEE IT.
YES. I WAS, WONDERING IF THE MASTER NATURALIST PROGRAM WOULD HAVE ANY INTEREST IN, PUTTING ANY EFFORT INTO REPURPOSING THAT AREA IF WE DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH WATER QUALITY OR, YOU KNOW, WITH PLANTS, NATIVE PLANTS AND HABITAT.
BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHICH DIRECTION WE TAKE, WHAT THEIR INTEREST WOULD BE, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE WORTH CONTACTING HOLLY ABEELS FOR THAT, AND ACTUALLY SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO HER THROUGH THE SPACE COAST SCIENCE EDUCATION ALLIANCE, AND SHE WOULD DEFINITELY KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE OF VALUE TO THEM.
AND, IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD GARDEN.
ANY CHANGES TO THAT? WILL NEED TO GO GO TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
GOTCHA. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST ADD, I'M VERY EXCITED BY THESE IDEAS, AND I REALIZE THAT THE INITIAL REASONS THE GARDEN WAS FORMED WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, NECESSARY.
THE CITY IS HIRING A FULL TIME POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ENGINEER, AND, I CAN REMEMBER, CAMILLE HADLEY
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AGAIN, IS IS REALLY A POWERFUL INFLUENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY.SHE IS DOES PROGRAMS THAT TAKES, KIDS AND, CERTIFIES THEM IN THINGS RELATED TO POLLUTANTS AND COUNTING AND WHERE THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAID AND CAN EARN.
SO WORKING WITH THE SCHOOLS AND THE PARTNERSHIPS, I THINK, AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY, YOU KNOW, KENNY JOHNSON IS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT INTERNSHIPS AND WAYS TO BRING THE NEXT GENERATION.
I THINK IT'S JUST EXCELLENT, THIS SCHOOL IDEA AND, THE PARTNERSHIPS.
SO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA, I THINK BASED AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THIS.
BUT I THINK BASED ON WHAT CHRISTINE JUST SAID, I THINK PROBABLY, MAYBE THE NUMBER ONE GOAL MIGHT BE TO TO GET A GOOD CONNECTION, WHETHER IT BE THE MASTER NATURALIST OR WHOEVER, AND THEN START LOOKING FOR PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHO IT WAS INTENDED FOR BEFORE AND GIVE THEM INCENTIVE TO GET BACK INVOLVED. BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU, IN 14 YEARS THERE'S 2000 NEW PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND A LOT OF THEM ARE PROBABLY, MAYBE YOUNGER AND, AND REGARDLESS OF AGE, WOULD BE INSPIRED TO, TO, TO GET INVOLVED IF WE WERE TO BUILD SOME SORT OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, COALITION OF RESOURCES.
SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT, AND IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS, HOWEVER, I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND WIDENING OUR IMPACT TO WHERE IT'S OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AT SOME POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ON OUR AGENDA MAYBE USE OF COMMITTEES THAT WE COULD HEAD OR WAYS THAT WE COULD GO OUT.
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, MR. SMITH, GOING OUT AND TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS OR A WAY THAT WE CAN BE MORE THAN JUST TALKING ABOUT IT, WE WOULD HAVE SOME ACTION.
ACHIEVABLE ACTION STEPS THAT WE COULD BRING BACK AND REPORT IN BETWEEN MEETINGS.
AWESOME. WELL, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE DISCUSSION.
REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
A LOT OF DISCUSSION LAST TIME.
AND I THINK, MISTER BILL, I THINK UNLESS YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS THINKING.
MR.. ERIC, WHAT WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW? I GUESS JUST, I GUESS RECAPPING KIND OF THE THOUGHTS OR IF THERE'S ANY DEVELOPMENT ON IT.
I KNOW WE KIND OF LEFT OFF OF, VOLUNTEERISM AND KIND OF IDEAS OF WHAT? WE SHOULD RECOMMEND OR DO THERE.
YEAH. I THINK ONE THING WE ALSO LEFT OFF WAS, I'M SAYING IF THE CITY HAD THE FUNDS TO ENGAGE SOMEBODY LIKE NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS TO ACTUALLY COME OUT AND ASSESS THE BEST PLANTS, FOR THE AREA, THE BEST NATIVE PLANTS, WHEN I SPOKE WITH THEM JUST INFORMALLY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST THEY, THEY SAID THE, THE PLANTS THAT HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN RECOMMENDED, BASED ON THE WATER CONDITIONS, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
SO, SO PROBABLY MIGHT NEED A REASSESSMENT OF SOME SORT.
AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FUNDING TO DO THAT.
SO WERE WE ABLE TO DO THAT? I HAVE NOT, I DO WANT TO.
I HAVE BEEN ADVISED THAT THERE IS A PERMIT, AND THE PERMIT ACTUALLY STATES WHICH PLANTS.
RIGHT, THAT WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED IF ANY OF THE PLANTS CHANGED.
SO, AND IT JUST I GUESS AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT.
ARE YOU? WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, REVIEW BY OUR ENGINEERS BEFORE WE COULD MAKE A REQUEST TO CHANGE A PERMIT.
I THINK ALL THESE THINGS ARE DOABLE, OF COURSE.
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BUT, I'D LIKE TO TELL MY FELLOW PEOPLE HERE, I DID GO OUT AND VISIT IT, AND I WAS IN THE COMPANY OF ERIC BLUNT, AND I HAD THE BRILLIANT IDEA TO TAPE HIM.SO, CHAIRMAN LEWIS, YOU WERE ASKING.
YES, I KNOW, SO THE THE VIDEOS, THE COMBINED VIDEOS ARE SHORTENED.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IT AND HEAR IT, I WOULD LOVE TO.
I JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE IT HERE TONIGHT.
WHO BROUGHT THE POPCORN? ALL RIGHT, MISS SUSAN, DID YOU DO A COMMENTARY? BARE AND CLEAN. IT IS THAT WHERE THE PLANTS WERE PLANTED THERE.
SO THEY'RE NO LONGER THERE? NO. OKAY.
SO IT COMES OVER THE BANK LIKE WE'RE LOOKING HERE.
YOU DO THAT? YEAH. PHYSICALLY.
OKAY. AND THEN WHEN IT. AND THEN WHEN IT DRIES OUT WE PUSH THIS AND LEVEL IT OUT.
SO ALL THE WATER THAT LANDS HERE GOES AWAY FROM THE POND AND INTO THE DITCHES.
THAT WAY IT HAS TIME TO PERCOLATE, OKAY.
AND THE GRASS CAN TREAT IT BEFORE THE WATER GOES INTO THE POND AGAIN.
SO ALL THIS HUMP OF GRASS WILL GET PULLED THIS WAY.
YEP. AND SO THIS IS AN INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS IS A GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S WHY THESE PLANTS HAVE TO BE REEVALUATED.
IDEALLY. IS THIS WHERE THE PLANTS WILL BE ON THE FINGER THERE.
YEP. AND WHAT DO YOU SEE NEEDING TO HAPPEN THERE TO WELL REVITALIZE I KNOW WHEN THEY I KNOW WHEN THEY ORIGINALLY BUILT THE POND, THEY, THEY, HAD BOY SCOUTS OUT HERE AND DID LIKE AN INTERACTION THING WHERE THEY TAUGHT THE BOY SCOUTS ABOUT THE PLANTS AND THEY PLANTED THEM WITH THEM.
SO, ONE LAST THING, FOR PURPOSES OF THIS VIDEO.
SO I'M SHOWING THE CAMERA NOW ON THIS RIGHT OF WAY, THIS ROAD, THIS GRASS WAY IS, AN EASEMENT FOR A DRAINAGE RIGHT? A DRAINAGE DITCH THAT'S TO OUR RIGHT.
YEP. IT GOES DOWN TRAVELS UNDER THE ROAD AND THEN TO THE DITCH TO THE.
SO THERE'S A PIPE ON THE OTHER SIDE RIGHT THERE.
AND IT GOES UNDER THE ROAD AND THE WATER.
WHERE DOES IT EXIT THEN? IT GOES OUT THE DITCH TO THE RIGHT HERE.
YEAH. AND DOWN INTO A WETLAND.
THAT'S DOWN THERE. OH, TO A WETLAND.
SO WE'LL DO A WETLAND IN A MINUTE HERE.
AND THEN SO IT NOURISHES THE WETLAND.
IT'S NOT FILLED IN EVERYWHERE.
SO THE GRASS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE GRASS IS SPORADIC, WHICH MEANS POOR SOIL, SANDY.
BUT THIS SOIL THAT, AGAIN, HAS COME UP.
THE SEDIMENT IS BLACK AND NUTRIENT RICH.
SO WHEN WE PUSH THIS OUT AND LEVEL IT OUT, THE CHANCES ARE THE GRASS ARE GOING TO COVER THIS BETTER.
SO THE GRASS THAT GETS PLANTED ON THE FINGERLING THEN WILL.
YEAH. THIS WILL ALL BE COVERED IN AND STOP EROSION AND STOP EROSION.
YEAH. IT'LL STOP EROSION INTO THE POND ALSO.
WELL, WE NEED THIS OVER ALL OF PALM BAY, DON'T WE? YEAH.
SO. SO THIS LITTLE EASEMENT DITCH RIGHT HERE YOU'RE SAYING IS IN BAD SHAPE. THIS LITTLE DITCH RIGHT HERE, IT DOESN'T.
BUT THIS WILL GET MOWED PROBABLY ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS.
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YOU MEAN WITH A MOWER? WITH A SLOPE MOWER? YEAH.DO YOU RECOMMEND THAT? OR SHOULD THE PLANTS IN HERE JUST TAKE CARE OF IT? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IF WE IF WE DON'T MOW IT, THEN THE GRASS WOULD OVERTAKE IT AND IT WOULDN'T FLOW WATER THROUGH IT.
BUT WHAT IF THERE WERE PLANTS PLACED IN HERE? THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED WITH ENGINEERS AND PERMITTING AND STUFF.
I HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN ANY OF OUR CANALS YET.
OKAY, SO THAT WILL HAVE TO BE.
SEE HOW CLEAR THE WATER IS HERE.
MEANING IT'S IT'S FLOWING, IT'S DOING ITS JOB.
AND THIS AREA IS WHAT HAS BEEN PULLED UP AGAIN OUT OF THE THE BASIN AND IS HERE TO PREVENT THE, THE DITCH COLLAPSING ON ITSELF, BASICALLY KEEPING IT OPEN.
AND THAT'S THE QUESTION SHOULD IS THAT THE IS THAT HOW WE WANT THAT TO BE OR TO REPLACE THE PLANTS HERE TO WITH SOMETHING MORE SUSTAINABLE, NOT REQUIRING MOWING? GREAT VIDEO. THE MAIN THING IS THAT SCREEN INFRASTRUCTURE, IT PREVENTS EROSION.
ALL THAT DIRT THAT COMES OUT IS NUTRIENT RICH.
SO THIS IS ONE BASIN AND IT'S DOABLE.
ERIC WAS I MEAN HE'S THE ONE WHO MAINTAINS IT.
BUT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF THIS BEING THE FIRST ONE, BUT NOT THE LAST.
SO I'VE UNLESS YOU HAVE MORE COMMENTS ON IT.
WHAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK IF WE.
BECAUSE I READ THROUGH THE MINUTES FROM LAST TIME KIND OF ASKING FOR VOLUNTEER GROUPS AND, AND, FOLKS TO COME AND HELP WITH THE PLANTS BE PROVIDED FOR THAT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING TO HAVE DONATED, OR IS THERE AN ACCOUNT FOR THAT, OR THE CITY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE PLANTS DONATED? I HAVE NOT, ASKED OUR FINANCE DIVISION ABOUT FUNDING FOR THAT SPECIFIC ITEM.
I DON'T HAVE A BUDGET IN MIND.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWNS TO ME.
YEAH. REGARDING THE COST OF THE PLANTS, AND, AND I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE HAD THE FUNDING FOR IT. IF SOMEONE WAS TO DONATE, WOULD THAT BE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WITH CITY GOVERNMENT AND OR GOVERNMENT AND, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, WOULD THAT BE TAX DEDUCTIBLE IF SOMEONE WAS TO DONATE THAT? THIS IS NOT A TAX ACCOUNTANT.
AND I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
BECAUSE I THINK WITH THE MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE REPRESENT UP HERE, WE DEFINITELY COULD HAVE THE MANPOWER, AND MAYBE SOME OF YOUR TEAM, ERIC OUT THERE THAT WE COULD GET SOME GOOD STUFF, GOOD STUFF DONE.
I MEAN, IT'S AS YOU SAW, CITY STAFF CLEANED UP THE AREA AND THE POND AND EVERYTHING, AND YEAH, I WENT OUT THERE TWO DAYS AGO AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S ALL LEVELED BACK OUT.
THE NEW VEGETATION IS STARTING TO POP UP, THE GRASS IS ALL GROWING AND EVERYTHING.
SO, I MEAN, THE FINGER STILL LOOKS THE SAME AS IT DID IN THAT FIRST PHOTO.
YEAH. SO I WOULDN'T IMAGINE IT WOULD TAKE LONG TO PLANT IT OR.
REPLANT EVERYTHING, MARK IT OUT.
SO, MAKING I MEAN, WE COULD GET PLANTS DONATED.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT THE RIGHT PLANTS, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO DIE.
SO, MAKING SURE THAT WE GET SOME KIND OF AN ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT ARE THE PLANTS THAT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL THERE IN THE LONG RUN, WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY, I THINK, FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT'S COMING OUT TO PLAN IT AND LOOKING AT IT AND, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT PERIODICALLY TO SEE HOW IT'S
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DOING. HAVE WE HAD LIKE HAVE WE CONTACTED OR CAN WE CONTACT LIKE THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY TO COME OUT AND DO A ASSESSMENT? I'VE WORKED WITH THEM IN THE PAST, AND THEY WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GET SOME DONATED PLANTS FOR PLACES THAT I'VE WORKED BEFORE.THERE'S ALSO A NATIVE PLANT NURSERY RIGHT IN WEST MELBOURNE.
AND I KNOW THAT THEY DO SOME PRO BONO WORK ALSO.
I KNOW THAT THEY WOULD DEFINITELY COME OUT AND DO AN ASSESSMENT.
I CAN'T I CAN'T RECALL THEIR NAME RIGHT NOW.
BUT CAN WE DO THAT? HOW CAN WE? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
HAVING NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS COME OUT AND DO AN ASSESSMENT, AND THE CITY WAS GOING TO SEE IF THEY HAD, FUNDING FOR THAT KIND OF A BASIC, JUST LOOK AT IT, RECOMMEND THE PLANTS.
THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHO HAS THE PLANTS.
I MEAN, I THINK BUYING PLANTS FROM THEM WILL GET THEM HEALTHIEST ONES VERSUS VOLUNTEER PLANTS AND DONATIONS, BUT WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE AS WELL. I'M IN THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY, SO WE COULD PUT A CALL OUT FOR WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER AND GET IT. IT MIGHT IT MIGHT NOT BE AS HEALTHY AS, AS WHAT YOU WOULD PURCHASE.
REGARDING FUNDING, FOR EITHER AN EVALUATION OR FOR PLANTS, I WOULD NEED TO HAVE HARD NUMBERS BEFORE I COULD DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS AVAILABLE OR FEASIBLE.
PLANT PLANTS. PLANT SELECTION ALSO HAS TO GO UNDER DIRECTION OF THE ENGINEERS INVOLVED TOO, RIGHT? CORRECT. WE ARE WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT OUR ENGINEERS ON STAFF HAVE THE PLANS AND THE PERMIT TO REVIEW.
RIGHT. DO YOU WANT ME TO GET AN ESTIMATE FROM NATIVE BUTTERFLIES? WE KNOW THEIR NORMAL ESTIMATE IS 250, BUT I COULD SHOW THEM THIS DRAWING, WHICH I DID.
WE'RE REALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT BIG AN AREA IF IT'S JUST THE FINGER RIGHT THAT WE'RE PLANTING.
I DON'T KNOW IF, GOING OUT AND GETTING AN ASSESSMENT FROM AN OUTSIDE SOURCE IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO PRIOR TO THE ENGINEER REVIEW.
WE COULD ALWAYS PUT A CALL OUT FOR THAT.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DO HAVE AN EXISTING PERMIT THAT LISTS THE PLANS.
SO THERE'S ALREADY THEY'RE ALREADY LISTED THEN.
BUT AGAIN I THINK THOSE PLANTS WERE IDENTIFIED.
WAS IT MR. ERIC LAKE 5 OR 10 YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING, WHEN THE THING WAS WHEN THIS PLACE WAS CREATED? BECAUSE THE THEY'RE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MOISTURE IN THAT IT WAS DONE IN 2005.
AND AGAIN, I'M WE WILL DEFINITELY ASK THE QUESTION AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH AN ANSWER.
RIGHT. BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW? ABSOLUTELY. SO THE WHOLE RIGHT PLANT, RIGHT PLACE THING IS SUPER IMPORTANT.
I'D LIKE TO HAVE A SUGGESTION.
ERIC BLUNT AND I ATTENDED THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID, YOU KNOW, THE MRC, THE POINT OF THE LID CONFERENCE IS TO GIVE WORKING TOOLS AND TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE, CITIES THAT ARE ALREADY USING PLANTS IN SWALES. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE RECOMMENDING IS THEY HAVE THIS NICE MANUAL THAT TALKS ABOUT, PLANTING.
IT GIVES IDEAS, BUT ALSO A MAINTENANCE, A CERTIFIED MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
SO I'D LIKE TO GO A LITTLE BIT BROADER WITH THIS, MAYBE EVEN BROADER THAN THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY.
AND KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A COMMERCIAL AREA, A MUNICIPALITY AREA.
BUT, AND I KNOW ERIC WAS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE MAINTENANCE OR THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS OR OR WHATEVER. SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL OR KIND OF HAVE HIM GO BACK ON HIS NOTES TOO, BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU IT GIVES
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THE ANSWERS IN HERE.WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? I'LL TELL YOU. YES, YES.
SO, SO SO I'D LIKE TO USE IT, I GUESS, AS A BEGINNING FOR.
LOOK AT ALL THE SWELLS IN PALM BAY.
I THINK WE'RE LIMITED TO THE PERMIT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO REVIEW AND ENSURE THAT IT IF WE MAKE ANY CHANGES, WE MAY NEED TO GET A NEW PERMIT.
CORRECT. OKAY. SO I JUST KIND OF MAYBE AN IDEA OF A TIMELINE.
SO ENGINEER REVIEW, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALREADY DONE WITH THE PERMIT AND SUCH.
RIGHT. WOULD THAT BE PART OF THAT PROCESS? YEAH, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.
DO IT AGAIN. SO IF DO YOU KNOW, HOW LONG WOULD THAT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING OR HOW LONG DOES THAT PROCESS TAKE? I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
THEN FIGURE OUT PLANT DONATIONS, CITY FUNDING.
MAYBE THERE'S A COST SHARE BETWEEN CITY AND WHAT'S DONATED TO, LIKE, A MATCHING GRANT.
FIGURE OUT A VOLUNTEER DATE OR A DATE TO TO DO THE THE DATE OF SERVICE.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, ADVERTISE IT AND GET OUR DIFFERENT GROUPS TOGETHER.
THAT KIND OF SOUND LIKE A TIMELINE THAT WOULD WORK FOR EVERYONE.
SO MAYBE, I GUESS THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM OR WE CAN ADD, IF WE CAN ADD IT TO THIS KIND OF JUMP IN A FEW, BUT ADD THE MAYBE THE ENGINEERING REPORT, AND KIND OF MAYBE THE PLANTS, BUT I THINK THE PLANTS ARE ALREADY KIND OF SET IN STONE UNLESS WE DO THE PERMIT.
SO MAYBE THE ENGINEERING AND TALK ABOUT DONATIONS OR MAYBE SEE IF THERE'S LIKE A COST SHARE OR MATCH, MATCHING GRANT TYPE THING WE COULD DO AND HAVE THAT FOR NEXT MEETING.
IS THAT YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE? I THINK THAT IF THE ENGINEERS ARE ABLE TO REVIEW THE PERMIT AND THE PLANS AND GIVE ME INSTRUCTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT.
WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EXISTING PLANS.
OR IF WE ARE ABLE TO EXCHANGE THOSE PLANS.
ONCE I HAVE CONFIRMATION FROM THE ENGINEER REGARDING THE PERMIT ITSELF.
SHOULD WE USE THE PLANTS THAT ARE EXISTING? I COULD PROBABLY REACH OUT FOR QUOTES.
TO GIVE MY TO GIVE ME A AN IDEA OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT $100 OR $100,000. SO I, I KNOW THAT'S AN EXTREME.
HOPEFULLY NOT. BUT I DO NEED TO KNOW THE NUMBER BEFORE I CAN.
YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD OR OR YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE ARE IF WE ARE REQUIRED TO USE THOSE WITH THAT PERMIT, IF WE HAVE TO GET A NEW PERMIT, THEN THAT IS A LENGTHY, A LENGTHY PROCESS.
SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NOT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
OKAY. IF WE, DO NOT NEED A NEW PERMIT, THEN I CAN UPDATE YOU ON WHAT IS, THE STATUS AT THE NEXT MEETING AS FAR AS THE THE PERMITTING AND THE, DESIGN AND THE PLANTS AND ANY QUOTES THAT I MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET.
SO SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF PLAN ON ENGINEERING REPORT.
ALL THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ME BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO CLOSE OUT THIS ONE BEFORE I GOT TO DRESS IT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THE CITY HAS A HORTICULTURIST ON THEIR STAFF.
BE NICE TO KNOW WHO THE CITY HORTICULTURIST IS.
IT'S TRYING TO HELP MAKE SOME OF THESE DECISIONS SO YOU CAN GET TO KNOW THAT INDIVIDUAL.
THEY HAVE ONE FOR BUSINESSES AND THEY USED TO HAVE ONE FOR COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION.
IT WASN'T A LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY.
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IT WAS VERY, VERY SMALL.BUT LIKE FOR THE ENTRANCE OF INTO COMMUNITIES, THEY DONATED MONEY.
BUT THE CITIZENS HAD TO DO ALL THE THE RESIDENTS HAD TO DO ALL THE WORK.
AND I HAVE THE CARD AND I'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET IT OF WHO THAT WAS WITHIN THE CITY STAFF.
BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE PROGRAM IS STILL AVAILABLE.
BUT I'LL FIND THAT. BUT IF IT'S ON THE COMMUNITY BEAUTIFICATION, JUST LIKE THEY HAVE THE BUSINESS BEAUTIFICATION SYSTEM, I'LL TRY TO HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT AND SEE IF THERE'S A FUNDING SOURCE. AND AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO THE CITY'S HORTICULTURIST IS, TOO.
SO, SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ARE WE SAYING THAT THE REVIEW THAT WAS DONE OR THE INITIAL PERMIT THAT WAS DONE 19 YEARS AGO? RIGHT. WE'RE SAYING THAT WE THINK IT MIGHT NEED TO BE UNDER REVIEW BECAUSE THE CHANGE OF SOIL CONTENT AND MOISTURE CONTENT THERE, AND JUST THE CHANGES THAT THAT THAT SITE HAS SEEN OVER THE 19 YEARS, THAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON.
YEAH, I THINK JUST THE LENGTH OF TIME AND THIS LIKE IT'S CHANGED OVER TIME.
SO I THINK THEY JUST HAVE TO FOR THE WATER LEVELS AND SOIL.
HAS ANYBODY SEEN THE LIST OF PLANTS? YES. YEAH. THEY'RE OKAY.
SO YOU'RE ON HERE. AND WE LOOKED AT I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
THE FACT I HAD CHEATGRASS I LOOKED IT UP ON MY PHONE.
AND IT SPECIFICALLY SAID DOES NOT DO WELL IN STANDING WATER.
WELL, ONE OTHER RESOURCE, I THINK, AND ERIC BLUNT POINTED THIS OUT TO ME.
WE WERE GIVEN THIS AT OUR LAST MEETING, AND THE ENGINEER AT THAT TIME WAS MICHAEL MCCABE.
AND MICHAEL MCCABE NOW IS WITH THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN.
IS THAT RIGHT, ERIC? SO MAYBE AGAIN NOT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
HE MIGHT BE CONSULTED OR ASKED TO COME AND.
REEXAMINE AND OFFER SOME MORE, ESPECIALLY SINCE HE'S STILL IN THE SAME LINE OF WORK. YEAH, I CAN'T MAKE ANY PROMISES FOR HIM, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY ASK HIM.
I TALKED TO HIM ON A DAILY BASIS, SO.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL ROLL INTO, NUMBER THREE FLIER UPDATES.
THE FLIER WAS IN OUR PACKET THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
AND IT REALLY, KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS SUSTAINABILITY FAIR AND, THAT SUCH AND INFORMATION.
SO I THINK IT'S MORE, EASIER TO READ, NOT AS DISTRACTING.
BUT I LIKE IT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
OR IS HE IS HE DOING ONE? YEAH. NO, IT JUST GOES TO THE POMPEI WEBSITE.
FORGIVE ME, I'M MIXING THAT UP WITH FLORIDA FRIENDLY BECAUSE HE'S DOING.
WHERE ARE WE GOING? WAS THE BARCODE GOING TO OR QR CODE GOING TO BE CHANGED OUT TO GO SPECIFICALLY TO THE INFORMATION ON THE FAIR, OR IS IT MEANT TO SCAN THE CODE TO PRE-REGISTER FOR.
SO I GUESS THE QR CODE WILL CHANGE.
ONCE WE APPROVE THIS, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR APPROVAL ON THIS FLIER.
THEN SHE'LL UPDATE EVERYTHING.
OKAY. AND DOES APPROVAL COME FROM US OR COUNCIL US? SO DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE UPDATED OR CHANGED, OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THIS? I THINK OR ANY, I GUESS, ANY MORE COMMENT? OKAY. WHAT IS THIS LITTLE THING? A SON? OH, THAT'S A SON.
OKAY. I LIKE THAT BE THE SOLUTION IS MORE VISIBLE AND.
YEAH. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO HAVE THE THEME BE THE SOLUTION CONNECTED BACK TO THE MANDATORY HOOKUP OF, SEPTIC TO SEWER AND WATER TO, WELL, THE CITY WATER, AS WELL AS DEMONSTRATORS OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN DO IN THEIR OWN YARDS FOR FLOODING AND, THINGS TO HELP THE CITY PREPARE FOR THIS ENORMOUS CONVERSION.
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MANDATORY CONVERSION.THIS ISN'T QUITE THAT COLOR, BUT IT'S VERY NICE.
I LIKE THE GREEN. I LIKE THE QR CODE FOR SURE, AND IT'S JUST VERY READABLE AND I LIKE IT VERY EARTHY. WAS THE, TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER.
ARE WE DOING IT THERE, OR WAS, DID THE TURKEY CREEK GET NEXT? I FORGET THE CONVERSATION ON THAT.
WAS THERE ALREADY AN EVENT AT TURKEY CREEK, OR IS IT JUST KIND OF ALL TOGETHER IN THAT AREA? IS THE EVENT.
IT'S AT TONY ROSA, AND ON TOP OF MY HEAD, I CANNOT RECALL WHY WE HAD TO MOVE IT TO TONY ROSA.
YEAH. OKAY. IS IT INSIDE THE COMMUNITY CENTER? SO THAT'S THE OTHER TOPIC THAT, SECOND PART OF THIS.
THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT NEEDS THE BOARD TO FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATION FOR THIS EVENT.
SO I WOULD SAY OUTSIDE, BUT I DON'T AT THE CENTER.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY ANY ROOM OUTSIDE.
OKAY. ANY ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? BOTH. SO YOU UTILIZE LIKE RAIN BARRELS OR THAT KIND OF DEMONSTRATION EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS INSIDE AND DO SOME THE VENDORS AND ALL THAT OUTSIDE. THERE'S NOT I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD SIZE PARKING LOT, BUT IF WE TAKE UP THE WHOLE PARKING LOT WITH THE FAIR, THEN, WELL, THERE'S THAT SIDE PARKING LOT TOO, SO WE COULD DO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO DO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE THERE'S STILL OTHER FACILITIES GOING ON OR OPERATIONS GOING ON THERE? THE SIDE WE'D HAVE TO DO THE SIDE PARKING LOT.
I FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT'S RESERVED FOR YOUR EVENT.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE KIND OF FINDING OUT IS WHAT YOU WANT EXACTLY.
RESERVE SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT TO BLOCK OFF.
SO BECAUSE THAT'S A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS ON HERE IS DO YOU NEED THE PARKING LOT BLOCKED OFF.
DO YOU NEED THE STREET SHUT DOWN.
SO THEY THEY ARE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
WELL YOU KNOW WHERE TONY ROSA IS.
THAT IS A PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PART OF THIS BE JUST, SIGNAGE.
BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO DON'T, WHO AREN'T ON THEIR WAY HERE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT.
EVERYBODY THAT DRIVES WILL PICK UP SOMETHING FROM A LITTLE SIGN THAT'S THERE.
SO LET'S WHOEVER DID THIS, MAYBE THEY COULD HELP US OUT TO WITH THAT KIND OF PASSIVE, WAY OF HOLDING THE FAIR.
THE TWO TWO QUICK COMMENTS AND FORGIVE ME FOR NOT KNOWING THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT ARE WE DOING RAIN BARRELS AGAIN? IS CARLOS DOING A WORKSHOP? BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS.
AND YOU MENTIONED RAIN BARRELS AND.
OKAY, SURE. BECAUSE THE QUESTION I ASKED EARLIER, MY FOGGY BRAIN MIXED UP FLORIDA-FRIENDLY LANDSCAPES WHERE WE'RE DOING A RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP WITH THIS ONE, WHICH THEY'RE A WEEK APART.
MY OTHER COMMENT IS, I FEEL LIKE THE FLIER ADDRESSES WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, AND.
MOST. IN MY OPINION IT ADDRESSES WHY.
BUT FOR THE FOR THE AVERAGE JOE THAT WOULD LOOK AT THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THIS WIDELY.
YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, AND I GUESS THAT PROBABLY IS THE WHY.
AND I SEE THE WHO BECAUSE OUR NAME IS AT THE TOP.
BECAUSE OUR TARGET IS NOT THE CHOIR.
I THINK PEOPLE SEE THAT SIGN AND THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY.
AND I DON'T EVEN. I'M NOT A BELIEVE ME, I'M THE LAST PERSON THAT IS GOOD AT MAKING FLIERS.
BUT I JUST WONDER IF IF, I THINK THIS WILL ATTRACT, BECAUSE OF THE TIMING, YOU KNOW, REACHING INTO EARTH MONTH.
THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF EARTH MONTH, BASICALLY.
AND PEOPLE KIND OF HAVE THAT MENTALITY.
I GUESS THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY, ONLY THOUGHT.
AND YOU THINK YOU WOULD CHANGE WITH IT OR ADD.
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THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON HERE HAS TO BE HERE.THIS IS, THIS IS THE NUTS AND BOLTS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS LOGO ATTRACTS PEOPLE.
I IT ALWAYS ATTRACTED ME EVER SINCE THE 70S.
SO JUST SHOW ME AN EARTH AND I'M GOING TO BE THERE.
I LIKE THE FLIER, THOUGH, I JUST, I, I THINK THAT IT'LL GIVE THE PEOPLE THE Y.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ENOUGH INFORMATION.
AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOUNCE HOUSES AND FOOD TRUCKS, WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE KIDS? YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO WE, SIGNED UP SOME VENDORS YET, OR IS OUR APPROVAL ON THIS HOLDING THAT UP? SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO MAKE ALL VENDORS.
I'VE NOT HEARD IF WE'VE SIGNED ANY UP.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN UPDATE ON THAT.
WELL, ACTUALLY, WHERE WE WHERE THAT STOOD WAS, SUZANNE WAS GOING TO COME, DO A COMBINED LIST OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE, REMEMBER, WE HAD OFFERED TO DO THAT AND SUNSHINE, SHE WANTED TO DO THAT.
SO WE WEREN'T SUNSHINE VIOLATING THINGS.
SO. SO THAT PRETTY MUCH MEANS NOBODY'S BEEN CONTACTED.
LAST, LAST. I HEARD LAST MEETING THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS, WHICH WAS 2 OR 3 MEETINGS AGO.
THE BOARD WAS GOING TO CALL THE VENDORS.
I THINK I THINK WE DID LAST YEAR.
I DON'T I THINK THE CITY CALLED THE FOOD TRUCKS.
ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT REQUIRED MONEY BECAUSE WE DON'T I CAN'T AUTHORIZE MONEY.
I DON'T REMEMBER US DOING THAT LAST YEAR, BUT I COULD BE WRONG.
BUT I THINK THAT I THINK THAT THE IDEA WAS SO WE WOULDN'T BREAK SUNSHINE LAW THAT SUZANNE WAS GOING TO PUT TOGETHER LIKE A LIST OF WHERE WE COULD SUBMIT VENDOR NAME IDEAS AND THEN MAKE A LIST OF IT, AND THEN WHETHER WE CONTACTED THEM INDIVIDUALLY AND SAID, YES, HEY, THESE PEOPLE SAID YES, OR I DON'T THINK IT WAS GOING TO BE ON THE CITY. HOLY.
I PROBABLY THINK A PARTNERSHIP.
I THINK THE LIST WAS JUST FOR NONPROFITS TO COME TABLE LIKE MRC.
OKAY. YOU KNOW, YOUR ORGANIZATIONS, ALL THESE ORG.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE CALLING THE SAME NONPROFIT.
WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE TOGETHER ON THAT FOR SUNSHINE LAW.
RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE LIST WAS GOING TO BE AND THEN GO OFF OF THAT.
SO IT'S PROBABLY A MULTI I WOULDN'T SAY FAULT BUT JUST KIND OF WAITING TO FOR THAT.
SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN SEE.
I MEAN, I'LL GET ON IT, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE WE DID NOT WE DID NOT.
KRISTEN SOROS I THINK REALLY TOOK IT AND RAN WITH IT.
SO WE WERE KIND OF SPOILED, I THINK, AN IDEA TO DO IT FAST, AN IDEA WE SHOULD HAVE MAILING LIST OF EVERYBODY THAT HAS SPOKEN BEFORE OUR ADVISORY BOARD.
WE'VE TOUCHED A GOOD NUMBER OF LOCAL PEOPLE.
MAYBE. COULD AN EMAIL BE PREPARED AND BLASTED OUT TO WITH THE FLIER ASKING PEOPLE TO BE MATS? BE BE MATS? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEN I THINK OUR BEST USE OF TIME WOULD BE TO THINK, WHO DO WE WANT THE DEMONSTRATORS? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE 1 OR 2 OR MAYBE WORK COLLECT CAN'T WORK COLLECTIVELY, BUT IDENTIFY THAT WE COULD PROBABLY DEFINITELY GET YOU A FEE FOR SOME OF THEIR TEACHING, CURRICULUM OR GET SOME OF THEIR, AGENTS TO COME AND DO.
I THINK THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THEIR MISSION OF EDUCATION.
SO THAT'S AN IDEA, BUT THAT'D BE ON THE LIST.
I THINK WE NEED TO. IT'S TIME TO TAKE SOME ACTION ITEMS, THOUGH.
SO, WE WILL REACH OUT TO CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TOMORROW AND, ASK FOR GUIDANCE ON THAT. OKAY.
AND YOU, CAN YOU JUST SEND US AN EMAIL? ABSOLUTELY. WE'LL COMMUNICATE TO ALL OF YOU THROUGH EMAIL ON WHAT WHAT OUR NEXT STEP IS.
OKAY. YEAH. AND I THINK WE HAD SAID THAT THE FOCUS WAS GOING TO BE ON KIDS ON THIS ONE.
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THAT REQUIRES MONEY.WOULD BE PROBABLY, A PRIORITY.
I SAYS I'M SURE COULD DO KID STUFF OVER.
I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE IDEA OF BE THE SOLUTION.
IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT THE CHRISTINE THAT IF WE COULD HAVE A TABLE INFORMATION, A PERSON, ALL OF IT TALKING ABOUT THIS MANDATORY HOOKUP, THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO ASSIST OUR CITY COUNCIL, I THINK, IN, YOU KNOW, JUST THE QUESTIONS BILL BATTEN HAS RAISED, IF WE CAN GET THE PARENTS THERE, THAT AREA I THINK IS SCHEDULED, ISN'T IT? BILL, THAT TURKEY CREEK AREA, THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO TO HOOK HOOK THEM IN AND THERE ARE GRANTS AVAILABLE.
AND SO THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION.
ANYTHING WE CAN PROVIDE PEOPLE ON HOW TO HELP THEM GET THROUGH THIS AND MAKE IT NOT A HORRIBLE PROCESS, BUT ONE THAT HOPEFULLY THEY'LL WILLINGLY PARTICIPATE IN.
AND ALSO, PUBLIC WORKS, HAS A VAC TRUCK THAT.
MAYBE MRC TWO MIGHT BE A READY MADE.
SO OPPORTUNITY? YES. AND ON THAT NOTE, REPUBLIC HAD A TRUCK OUT THERE LAST YEAR, TOO.
THAT THAT'S EASY ENOUGH TO GET.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM, AN MRC REP WAS THE FACT THAT IT'S EASTER WEEKEND, SO THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE FEW CHALLENGES BECAUSE IT IS PRE EARTH EARTH MONTH.
BUT. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT WILL BE A CHALLENGE.
BUT IF WE DO GET THE GREEN LIGHT, I HAVE A LIST READY TO CALL.
SOME OF THE VENDORS FROM THAT GROUP.
SO. I HAD A QUESTION ON HOW WE'RE MARKETING.
SO WHAT WHAT DID WE DO LAST YEAR TO MARKET THIS AND WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT CAN'T WE DO? PRETTY MUCH BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING IN TERMS OF LIKE NOT PREACHING TO THE CHOIR, AS YOU MENTIONED, GOING TO SHOWS LIKE, CAN WE LIKE, HOW CAN WE MARKET TO THOSE KIND OF PLACES TO GET PARENTS OUT AND TO GET, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST FOLKS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY OUT, BUT THE ACTUAL CITIZENS? I THINK IT WAS MOSTLY ON FACEBOOK.
RIGHT. SOCIAL MEDIA. BUT I, YOU KNOW, AND A NUMBER OF US SO I DO A LOT OF SPEAKING ENGAGEMENTS AND I TAKE THE FLIERS WITH AND PASS THEM OUT AT SHOWS IN DIFFERENT GROUPS LIKE THAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET FOR ADVERTISING.
BUT, YOU KNOW, TURKEY CREEK HAS, HAS A STAND UP, TWO SIDED BOARD THAT LAST YEAR, WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A PRINTED POSTER THERE FOR THEM TO DO AN ADVERTISING.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, IF WE HAD ONE PREPARED, THEY WOULD PUT THAT UP.
AND THAT'S A BIG A LOT OF PEOPLE WALK THROUGH THERE AND SEE THOSE.
YOU CAN PUT THEM UP AT THE LIBRARIES FOR FREE AND STARBUCKS.
WE JUST WE WOULD NEED TO PRINT UP LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, 50 OR 100 AND GET THEM OUT TO EVERYBODY.
CHRISTINE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT I'M GOING TO ANTICIPATE SINCE IT'S AT TONY ROSA IN THE AREA WHERE THESE MANDATORY HOOKUPS ARE STARTING. I MEAN, THE LETTERS HAVE GONE OUT AND THINGS CAN WE HAVE LIKE A CARD OR WITH A QR OR A LINK THAT WE CAN GIVE TO PEOPLE TO, LIKE A HELP LINE OR SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN AGAIN GET
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PEOPLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED, HAVE SOMETHING AVAILABLE.I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S NOT AVAILABLE.
IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE UTILITIES ALREADY HAS THAT SET UP.
I'D HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THEM.
SO, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I THINK IF EVERYONE IS GOOD TO GO WITH, THIS FLIER, THERE'S A MOTION TO APPROVE IT SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND FINALIZE IT. AND I LIKE IT.
I THINK, AS THE BAY NEXT YEAR, THE YEAR AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT, THE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT NEW BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT, WE WE CAN SHIFT THE FOCUS BACK TO THE BAY.
SO WOULD THAT BE A MOTION TO ACCEPT OR APPROVE? YES. DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND? ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY SIGN AND I VOTE I.
SO THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO WE GOT THAT STEP OUT OF THE WAY.
DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION THAT THAT WE NEED TO FILL OUT OR.
I'M GOING TO GET WITH SUZANNE'S OFFICE, OKAY? I'M, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT I COULD DO TO HELP, BUT IF I CAN HELP, JUST LET ME KNOW.
AND IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MAYBE THAT WE CAN ANSWER NOW ON THE BESIDES THE INDOOR OUTDOOR? NO, NO, I'LL GET WITH SUZANNE'S OFFICE.
AND WORSE COMES TO WORSE, I CAN REACH OUT TO ONE OF YOU TO HELP.
JUST LISTEN, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP WITH IT IF YOU NEED.
I'M SURE MANY OF US, BUT, AWESOME.
SO WHAT COULD WE DO THAT EITHER AFTER NUMBER FOUR OR.
WHERE MIGHT THAT FIT IN? WE CAN GO AND DO IT NOW AS INFORMATIONAL, RIGHT? IS THAT FINE OR.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON IT.
RIGHT. SO IF YOU WANT TO FORM KIND OF AN UPDATE.
YEAH. CHRISTINE, DID YOU WANT TO, DO AN UPDATE? YOU WANT ME TO DO IT OR.
OKAY, SO CHRISTINE AND I MET, THIS WEEK AND WENT OVER THE MOU.
SO WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS ON GETTING THROUGH THE MOU.
WE'VE ALSO DESIGNED THE SIGN FOR THE SOLARIZATION AND THE CITY SIGN DEPARTMENT.
THE CITY'S WORKING ON THE POA TO GET THAT THROUGH THE THE PROCESS OF CREATING A POA SO THAT THEN WE COULD, START ON THE SOLARIZATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE ARE.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? WE ARE SENDING THE PLAN OUT FOR INTERNAL REVIEW TO ENSURE THERE ARE NO IMPEDIMENTS, TO DIGGING IN THAT AREA AND TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL, PALM BAY DEPARTMENTS ARE AWARE OF IT AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT AND ITS LOCATION.
ALSO. JANE, DO YOU WANT TO JUST GIVE A SNAPSHOT FOR OUR NEWEST MEMBER OF WHAT THAT IS? I'M SORRY. YES.
SO THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A NATIVE GARDEN OVER, BY THE POLICE STATION, THERE'S A SIDEWALK BETWEEN THE POLICE STATION AND CITY HALL ON THE PIECE OF LAND CLOSER TO THE POLICE STATION.
OKAY. AND THERE'S AN OAK TREE, A COUPLE OTHER NATIVE TREES ALREADY THERE.
I DO HAVE IT SOMEWHERE IN HERE, BECAUSE I JUST HAD IT OUT THE OTHER DAY.
AND THE DESIGN HAS BEEN DONE BY NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS.
SO WE'RE WE'RE HAPPY WITH THAT.
SO THIS IS PRETTY MUCH IT IN A NUTSHELL, BUT IT WAS BY NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE POLICE STATION? YES. THAT'S THE POLICE STATION.
IT'S GOT SOME GORGEOUS BIG SPECIMENS LIKE GUMBO LIMBOS IN THERE, SOME BIG PINE TREES.
SO REALLY SHOWCASING FLORIDA'S TREES AND PLANTS AND POLLINATORS.
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AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GORGEOUS.WE'RE JUST, KIND OF TRYING TO GET THE PAPERWORK IN ORDER.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE THIS COPY? I WOULD, YES. I THINK.
YEAH. AND WHO WILL WILL THE CITY OF PALM BAY BE MAINTAINING THIS OR ANY ORGANIZATIONS? IT'LL BE ALL VOLUNTEERS FROM EITHER CONRADINA, THE PALM OIL BAR OR GARDEN CLUB OR SPACE COAST AUDUBON.
GREAT. CONRADINA IS PUTTING IN 2000.
FPL PUT IN 2500, AND THE CITY IS GOING TO BE FUNDING THE REST, WHICH IS ABOUT 5000 OF IT.
AWESOME. SO BEFORE WE GET OR AS WE GO INTO, NUMBER FOUR UPDATING MEETING EVENTS OF INTEREST, MISS SUSAN CONAWAY WAS, AT THE MEETING WHEN, WE HAD A PROCLAMATION FOR ARBOR DAY.
BUT PROCLAMATION BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA NOTICED PROCLAMATION.
FLORIDA. ARBOR DAY, JANUARY 19TH, 2024.
IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS ARBOR DAY IS A NATIONALLY CELEBRATED, CELEBRATED OBSERVANCE THAT PROMOTES THE BENEFIT OF TREES IN THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT AND ENCOURAGES TREE PLANTING AND CARE.
AND WHEREAS ARBOR DAY WAS THE CREATION OF JULIUS STERLING MORTON OF NEBRASKA AND FIRST TOOK PLACE IN 1872, MORTON SERVED AS PRESIDENT GROVER CLEVELAND'S SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE, IMPROVING AGRICULTURAL TECHNIQUES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
AND WHEREAS, NEARLY 100 YEARS LATER, IN 1970, PRESIDENT RICHARD NIXON PROCLAIMED THAT THE LAST FRIDAY IN APRIL AS A AS NATIONAL ARBOR DAY, THERE'S A SEAL IN THE WAY I CAN'T READ.
HOWEVER, INDIVIDUAL STATES CONDUCT THEIR OWN ARBOR DAY CELEBRATIONS AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE YEAR.
THUS, FLORIDA'S IS A DIFFERENT DAY THAN THE NATIONAL WHEREAS FLORIDA, ALONG WITH LOUISIANA, ARE FIRST TO CELEBRATE ARBOR DAY, EACH YEAR ON THE THIRD FRIDAY OF JANUARY, FLORIDA CELEBRATES ARBOR DAY AND JANUARY BECAUSE MANY TREES ARE DORMANT AND LOSE LESS WATER, THROUGH TRANSPORTATION.
NOT MYSELF, BUT ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JANUARY 19TH, 2024, AS FLORIDA ARBOR DAY IN CELEBRATION OF FLORIDA'S ARBOR DAY, CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO DO THEIR PART IN HELPING TO REDUCE AIR POLLUTION, CONSERVE ENERGY, AND BEAUTIFY BEAUTIFY THE STATE OF FLORIDA BY PLANTING TREES.
PLANTING NATIVE TREES PROTECTS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BALANCE AND BEAUTY OF THE SUNSHINE STATE BY PREVENTING THE SPREAD OF INVASIVE PLANTS AND OFFSETTING SOME OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, JUST KIND OF THE SEAL AND SIGNATURE, OF THE MAYOR AND THE CITY CLERK.
SO, THAT PROCLAMATION WAS MADE TWO WEEKS AGO.
NO, FOUR 3RD JANUARY 18TH MEETING.
AND, HE MENTIONED IT, ME AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOARD AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND IT WAS, YES, A BIG, IT WAS A BIG EVENT.
YEAH. SO VERY COOL FOR FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO WE HAVE THAT, THE NOTICES AND THE THINGS THAT WE DO ON THIS BOARD ARE NOTICED.
AND, A LOT OF THINGS COME OUT OF IT.
SO IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD. AND I THINK WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND TAKE ON NEW INITIATIVES.
WAS THAT ALREADY DOCUMENTED OR SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PLANNED FOR, IT'S IT'S ON MY TO DO LIST.
AWESOME. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY INFORMATION? UPCOMING MEETINGS? I HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
THANK YOU. THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER ARE BEGINNING COORDINATION WITH BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION TO INCREASE MESSAGING ABOUT THE WORK THE CITY IS DOING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, TURKEY CREEK AREA.
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WASTEWATER PLANTS.AND THAT IS HER ONLY COMMENT FOR THIS EVENING.
YOU KNOW, LET'S HAVE ANY. I HAVE A COUPLE.
OKAY. SCIENCE FAIR SEASON IS IN FULL SWING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A FIELD EXPERT.
JUST HAVE TO HAVE A BASIC UNDERSTANDING OF THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
GET TO DO SOME INTERVIEWS WITH SOME AWESOME STUDENTS.
SO LET ME KNOW. BIRDING FESTIVALS ALSO HERE RIGHT NOW.
I TOOK A GROUP OUT TODAY AND TAKEN A GROUP OUT, SATURDAY MORNING.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOME EXCITED PEOPLE, TAKE THEM TO THE LANDFILL.
AND YOU WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY AMAZED AT THE DIVERSITY OF SPECIES AT THE LANDFILL.
AND I LEARNED I LEARNED NEW SPECIES TODAY.
AND WE SAW SIX DIFFERENT SPECIES OF SEAGULLS ALONE.
AND THEY PREFER THAT YOU CALL THEM GULLS.
SO I LIKE TO CALL THAT MOUNT MELBOURNE.
YEAH. MOUNT SAINT TRASHMORE NATIONAL SCIENCE BOWL IS COMING UP IN FEBRUARY.
IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN HELPING OUT WITH THAT TOO.
THAT'S A THAT'S AN AMAZING EVENT.
IT'S A PRETTY AMAZING SEMINAR.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, COME ON OUT.
AND IS THAT THAT'S AT THE MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM, MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM.
SO, IT'S A LOT OF GREAT TALKS, A LOT OF GOOD.
SOME OF THE TOPICS THIS YEAR WERE, OBVIOUSLY HOW TO PLANT NATIVE AT HOME.
WE'RE FINALIZING IT THIS WEEK, RIGHT? NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS IS PRESENTING.
ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS IS THE THE LADY WHO SPOKE TO US A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.
WAS SHE. SHE WAS MRC, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, HEATHER STAPLETON.
SHE'S, ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS ALSO.
FOR PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO TRAVEL.
ONE OF THE GROUPS WAS DOING A COATING OF SEA OATS PLANTING AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN, BUT IT'S IT'S SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 2ND, I THINK IS THE DATE TO GO OUT AND VOLUNTEER TO PLANT SEA OATS.
COOL. I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO INVITE OUR PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY, TO THE SECOND SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC VULNERABILITY WORKSHOP.
THIS IS HELD BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN ORDER TO LOOK AT ALL PUBLIC, PUBLICLY OWNED ASSETS SUCH AS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE OF ROADS, STORMWATER, UTILITIES AND THEN FACILITIES LIKE PARKS AND POLICE AND AND FIRE TO ASSESS THESE AND DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN AS TO THE DEGREE OF VULNERABILITY THEY HAVE AND TO HAVE A PLAN FOR MAKING THEM RESILIENT.
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR COMMUNITY CITIZENS.
A LOT OF TIMES NO MORE THAN PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, FROM OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024, RIGHT HERE AT THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
YOU HAVE TO REGISTER BY FEBRUARY 2ND TO ATTEND.
AND THERE IS A SURVEY THAT THEY ASK THAT YOU DO.
AND EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE AT THE WORKSHOP, THE SURVEY AGAIN HELPS THEM IDENTIFY WHAT WHERE THE FLOODING IS IN THE AREA AND JUST ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT THIS MASTER PLAN, THERE WILL BE GRANTS CONNECTED TO IT AND, AND A SOLUTIONS.
I WANTED TO MENTION TOO, THAT, TAMPA IS GOING TO BE THE FIRST CITY IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES TO ELIMINATE PFAS, PFAS IN DRINKING WATER.
THEY'VE STARTED THAT PROGRAM, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE PALM BAY BE SECOND IN THE US.
ALSO, I'D LIKE TO APPLAUD OUR CITY FOR BUILDING E.
YOU'VE KNOWN THAT THIS HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
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TO HOUSE, I GUESS IT'S UTILITIES AND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT ARE OFF SITE.NOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BUILDING BE, BUILT RIGHT ON CAMPUS HERE TO, HOUSE THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT DON'T QUITE FIT IN CITY HALL RIGHT NOW.
AND THE INTERESTING THING IS, BUILDING E IS, THEY'RE INCORPORATING THINGS LIKE LOOKING AT THE USE OF SPACE AND MAKING THINGS MULTI-PURPOSE.
AND, I THINK WE HAVE TALKED TO SUZANNE SHERMAN, TOO, ABOUT USING NATIVE PLANTS ON THE OUTSIDE IN TERMS OF, WATER MANAGEMENT AND THINGS.
AND SO THIS BUILDING CAN BE A REAL SHOW CENTRAL SHOWPIECE IN ADDITION TO JUST BEING A BUILDING.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA OF SUSTAINABILITY.
WE DON'T OFTEN THINK ABOUT FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY, BUT THEY HAVE MANAGED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO PULL TOGETHER GRANTS AND OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING. THAT AND THE THE CONTRACT WAS JUST AWARDED TO BEGIN BUILDING.
IS THAT A FREE WORKSHOP FOR ONE YEAR? YES IT IS.
YES. THAT'S THE THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC VULNERABILITY WORKSHOP.
HARDISON. I HAVE WORKED WITH MULTIPLE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES IN BREVARD COUNTY AS A WHOLE FOR ABOUT THE PAST SIX YEARS NOW, SEVEN YEARS ACTUALLY, I'VE WORKED AT BREVARD ZOO.
I'VE WORKED AT HUBBS-SEAWORLD RESEARCH INSTITUTE.
SO I HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE OF SUSTAINABILITY PRACTICES.
FROM MELBOURNE BEACH, MELBOURNE.
AND I'M JUST REALLY HERE TO HOPEFULLY BRING MY KNOWLEDGE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND JUST SOME PRACTICES THAT I'VE SEEN IN OTHER PLACES THAT I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED ON MYSELF IN OTHER PLACES AND BRING THAT TO PALM BAY.
SO I'M REALLY HOPING TO LOOK INTO FUNDING.
ALSO, I'M JUST EXCITED TO BE PART OF THE BOARD AGAIN.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY MADE SOME AMAZING STRIDES.
I'M ACTUALLY SEEING THINGS DONE AND THAT'S REALLY EXCITING AS A CITIZEN.
AND NOW, A BOARD MEMBER AGAIN.
THIS JUST TO THE TO THE PUBLIC.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE BOARD, RIGHT.
REACH OUT TO CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY, IN DOING THAT.
SO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU ON THE TEAM.
BUT IF THERE'S NO FURTHER BUSINESS, NO OBJECTIONS, I CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 734.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.