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YES. I'M GOOD.

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ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:01 P.M..

[CALL TO ORDER]

THIS IS THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING.

FEBRUARY THE 2ND, NOT FEBRUARY THE 2ND.

FEBRUARY THE 28TH, I BELIEVE IT IS, YES.

2024. SO WE'LL GO START WITH THE PLEDGE.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO LEAD IT? I CAN LEAD IT IF EVERYONE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

OR IS IT RIGHT BEHIND ME? AWESOME. THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

JANE HIGGINS HERE.

SUSAN PHILLIPS.

HARDISON. HERE.

SUSAN CONNOLLY.

LOGAN LEWIS HERE.

KEVIN SMITH.

REBECCA ZIEGLER HERE.

AWESOME. SO WE HAVE QUORUM.

WE'LL GO INTO ADOPTION OF MINUTES.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

YOU SHOULD HAVE THE MINUTES IN FRONT OF YOU.

AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADOPTION.

SO A MOTION HAS.

MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES HAS BEEN MOVED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS PRINTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL OPPOSED. SAME SIGN.

AND I VOTE I.

SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

NEXT WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS WILL BE FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.

SO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON ON AGENDA ITEMS INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK.

LET'S SEE. YEAH.

SO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO INTO NEW BUSINESS.

SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION PHOTOCATALYTIC IS HOW YOU SAY IT.

[NEW BUSINESS]

YEAH. I SAW THIS PRESENTATION ON MONDAY WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERSIGHT BOARD MEETING.

SO MR. EVERS IS GONNA DO A PRESENTATION FOR US, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO JOIN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AT STATE.

AND, AS YOU SAID, AN ENCORE PRESENTATION.

AND CLEARLY THE REVIEWS WERE POSITIVE.

AND SO THE ATTENDANCE HAS BEEN BOOSTED SOMEHOW BECAUSE OF THAT, I'M SURE.

SO BUT BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE GOING TO DIVE IN AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO SOUND VERY SCIENCE FICTIONY.

IT'S IT'S EXCITING BECAUSE IT REALLY IS THE CULMINATION OF A YEARS OF WORK ON SUSTAINABILITY BY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PARTIES.

SO WE'LL GET INTO IT. BUT THIS IS REALLY IN REGARDS TO THE WHAT'S CALLED THE CPG PHASE TWO IMPLEMENTATION GRANTS FROM THE EPA.

AND SO THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS JOINING A COALITION OF SPACE COAST COMMUNITIES THAT IS GOING TO GO AFTER WHAT'S PART OF A $4.3 BILLION FUNDING FROM THE EPA.

SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST KIND OF DIVE IN.

AND SO PHOTOCATALYSIS IS SOMETHING WE'LL TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT, BUT IT'S REALLY KIND OF EXCITING BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING SOMETHING THAT'S FROM THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM TO TURN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INTO A SINK SOURCE TO SINK.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE THE QUICK AND DIRTY.

BUT WE'LL JUST WATCH A BRIEF VIDEO HERE AND HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT TOO TERRIBLY LOUD, BUT WE'LL SEE.

ASPHALT ROADWAYS ARE THE BACKBONE OF AMERICA.

CRITICAL. AND TO OUR WELL-BEING AS A SOCIETY.

EXTENDING PAVEMENT LIFE CYCLES WHILE REMOVING POLLUTION AND LOWERING CARBON FOOTPRINT HAS BECOME THE HOLY GRAIL OF ROADWAY PERFORMANCE.

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AND TODAY BREAKTHROUGH TECHNOLOGIES ARE MAKING THAT POSSIBLE.

PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY AND ITS MANUFACTURING PARTNER, DAD EMULSIONS, HAVE DEVELOPED SUSTAINABLE, ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT REVITALIZE ASPHALT PAVEMENTS WHEN COMBINED WITH PHOTOCATALYTIC PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGIES.

PTI SOLUTIONS ALSO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY BY REMOVING POLLUTANTS RELATED TO VEHICLE EMISSIONS AND MITIGATING THE EFFECTS OF URBAN HEAT.

THE ROAD OF THE FUTURE IS AVAILABLE NOW.

PAVEMENT PRESERVATION SOLUTIONS WITH SMOG AND HEAT REDUCING PROPERTIES ARE THE NEXT STEP FORWARD IN STATE OF THE ART ENVIRONMENTAL RESILIENCE AND SUSTAINABILITY.

NOW WE CAN ATTACK CLIMATE CHANGE ONE ROAD AT A TIME, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HOPEFULLY DOING SHOULD THE COALITION BE SUCCESSFUL. AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AS FAR AS THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, WE KNOW IT TO BE PARTIALLY TIED TO THE TAILPIPE.

AND SO WHAT BETTER PLACE TO TRY TO TACKLE THIS PROBLEM THAN RIGHT AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET TO THE TAILPIPE.

AND THAT IS OUR PAVEMENTS.

AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE PIE CHARTS, ACTUALLY, SINCE ELECTRIC POWER IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE FROM RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCES, THAT PART OF THE PIE HAS GONE DOWN.

AND SO TRANSPORTATION IS REALLY THE, THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR OF AND WE CALL THESE MOBILE SOURCE EMISSIONS.

THEY'RE THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR OF THE PROBLEM AS FAR AS AIR POLLUTION AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.

SO WHAT IF THE FUTURE COULD BE NOW HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE SPACE COAST AND SPECIFICALLY PALM BAY.

SO WHAT IF WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALREADY DOING HERE IN PALM BAY TO PRESERVE OUR ROADS? AND WE ACTUALLY ARE REJUVENATING PAVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY RESURFACED AS PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN.

AND MANY OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM MAY HAVE ALREADY SEEN THAT HAPPENING.

IT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW.

AND WHAT IF WE COULD TAKE THAT AND TAKE WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS CALLED CARBON AVOIDANCE THROUGH LONGER LIFE CYCLE PAVEMENTS, AND ADD TO IT AN ELEMENT THAT WILL ENABLE OUR PAVEMENTS TO CAPTURE AND PERMANENTLY SEQUESTER CO2 AND NOX EMISSIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

WE'RE ALREADY DOING CARBON AVOIDANCE.

WE'RE ALREADY DOUBLING THE PAVEMENT LIFE, WHICH IS A GOOD USE OF, OF RESOURCES.

SO ADDING THIS ABILITY TO WHAT WE CALL RETROFIT EXISTING PAVEMENTS WITHIN PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY SPECIFICALLY IS, IS REALLY GOT A LOT OF PROMISE.

AND WHAT WE'RE INTENDING TO DO WITH APPLYING FOR THESE EPA GRANTS.

SO THIS PROCESS IS VERY SCALABLE.

WE'RE ABLE TO DEPLOY.

HERE'S SOME OF THE CITIES AND COUNTIES AROUND THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE ALREADY DEPLOYED THIS TECHNOLOGY AND VARYING SIZE.

YOU'LL SEE SOME MAJOR COMMUNITIES AND EVEN SOME SMALLER ONES THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.

SO THIS IS EXCITING IN THAT WE CAN GO AFTER THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM AND TACKLE IT WHILE WE'RE ALREADY PRESERVING THESE PAVEMENTS.

SO PHOTOCATALYSIS, IT'S THE WORD OF THE DAY, RIGHT? SO PHOTOCATALYSIS IS MERELY THE PROCESS OF TAKING A NATURALLY DECOMPOSING EMISSIONS.

SO WHEN SUNLIGHT INTERACTS WITH THE TREATED PAVEMENT, THEN IT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN.

IT ACTUALLY INTERACTS WITH A CATALYST CALLED TITANIUM DIOXIDE.

THIS IS A COMPLETELY NONTOXIC, SAFE MATERIAL.

IT'S IN SOME OF THE SUNSCREENS AND SOME OF THE TOOTHPASTE THAT YOU ALREADY USE.

SO IT'S COMPLETELY INERT AND NONTOXIC TO HUMANS.

AND WHAT IF WE COULD TAKE THAT AND SPRAY APPLY THAT ONTO THE PAVEMENT, EMBED THE PAVEMENT, AND THEN FOR THE NEXT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN YEARS, THE PAVEMENT IS NOW ABLE TO EAT SMOG.

AND THAT WE'VE ALREADY PROVEN IS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

SO JUST BRIEFLY, WE'LL JUST SHOW A FEW TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN SOME LARGE CITIES AROUND THE UNITED STATES.

THESE ARE IN RALEIGH AND CINCINNATI.

WE'VE DONE THE SAME THING FOR ORLANDO, ORLANDO AIRPORT, DELRAY BEACH, TO NAME A FEW HERE IN FLORIDA.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE REDUCTIONS ARE ANYWHERE FROM 30S TO HIGH 30S TO, TO LOW 50% REDUCTION OR BEYOND.

AND SO THAT'S A VERY SIZABLE INCREASE.

AND SO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO THE EXISTING PAVEMENT PRESERVATION PROGRAM? WELL, THE PROMISE THAT IT HOLDS IS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE EXISTING RESOURCES THAT WE'RE DEVOTING TO PAVEMENT PRESERVATION, WHICH THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HAS SMARTLY ENGAGED WITH AND ACTUALLY ZERO THAT OUT BECAUSE THERE'S NO REQUIRED MATCH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL. THE CITY OF PALM BAY WOULD PROBABLY SAVE ANYWHERE FROM, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PROGRAM, ANNUALLY, 1.4 TO $1.7 MILLION.

AND THAT MONEY. COULD THEN BE DEPLOYED ON OTHER ROADWAY PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND THAT POTENTIAL TO SUBSIDIZE THIS EXISTING TOP OF THE CURVE PRESERVATION PROGRAM IS WHAT'S GOT OBVIOUSLY PUBLIC WORKS STAFF VERY EXCITED

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ORIGINALLY, IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE WONDERFUL, OBVIOUSLY ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, PROMISES THAT COULD BE THERE.

SO AS WE SAID, WE'VE SEEN IT BASICALLY REDUCE THESE EMISSIONS BY UPWARDS OF 60%, 60%, EXCUSE ME.

AND WHAT WE CALL NON EXHAUST EMISSIONS, WHICH WOULD BE THE MICROPLASTICS.

THOSE ARE THE HARMFUL TIRE WEAR AND BRAKE WEAR THAT EVEN EVS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH.

AND WE CAN DECOMPOSE THOSE TO ABOUT A 98% EFFICIENCIES.

SO VERY EFFECTIVE.

I WON'T SPEND A BUNCH OF TIME ON THIS.

I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE COMMITTEE'S TIME.

BUT IN ESSENCE, THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH THAT'S GONE ON BY ACADEMIC PARTNERS, WHETHER IT BE PURDUE UNIVERSITY LOOKING AT THE CARBON SEQUESTRATION SIDE OF THINGS, OR TEXAS A&M AS WELL.

AND THEN BASICALLY, JUST LIKE YOU SAW IN THAT EXISTING VIDEO, IT'S GOING TO TAKE THESE HARMFUL EMISSIONS THAT ARE INVISIBLE HERE.

WE'VE MADE THEM VISIBLE BY JUST A, YOU KNOW, ADDING THESE, THIS ANIMATION.

BUT AND IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THOSE.

AND SO EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THESE TREATED ROADS IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THAT.

IT ALSO HAS THE BENEFIT, ADDED BENEFIT OF BEING ABLE TO LOWER THE HEAT REFLECTIVITY OF THESE ROADS.

SO IF YOU'VE HEARD OF THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THAT'S IN THESE LARGE CITIES THAT HOLD HEAT AND RE-EMIT THOSE AT NIGHT.

SO WE CAN ACTUALLY MUCH LIKE THE SUNSCREEN THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE POSSIBLY WEARING THAT HAS TITANIUM DIOXIDE THAT REFLECTS THE UV RADIATION AWAY FROM YOUR SKIN.

WE'RE DOING THE SAME THING WITH OUR PAVEMENTS.

SO THIS IS JUST A VERY SHORT VIDEO OF A SPRAY APPLICATION ON A PILOT PROJECT IN THE CITY OF AUSTIN.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS JUST BEING SPRAY APPLIED DOWN.

WE RETURN TRAFFIC TO THIS WITHIN 20 TO 30 MINUTES.

SO VERY LITTLE INTERRUPTION.

AS I SAID, YOU PROBABLY MAY HAVE SEEN THIS PROCESS OCCURRING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.

SO JUST REAL QUICK, SOME BASICS ON THE GRANT PROCESS.

THERE WAS A PLANNING GRANT AND THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL RECEIVED ONE OF THOSE GRANTS.

WE JUST GOT EXCELLENT WORD FROM THEM YESTERDAY THAT THEY HAVE PUT THE NECESSARY LANGUAGE FOR THE COALITION TO ACTUALLY BE ELIGIBLE TO GO AFTER THIS FUNDING, AND THAT WAS YESTERDAY.

SO THEY TURNED THAT IN TOMORROW, MARCH 1ST.

AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY THAT'S FRIDAY, I BELIEVE.

SO, SO MARCH 1ST.

GOT TO FORGET IT. CAN'T FORGET THAT LEAP YEAR.

SO ANYWAY, WHAT HAPPENS THEN AT THAT POINT IS $4.3 BILLION BECOMES AVAILABLE FOR COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, ABOUT 80 COMMUNITIES THAT FIT THE PROFILE TO GO AFTER THAT $4.3 BILLION.

AND THAT IS REALLY INTENDED TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND WHAT WE CALL HAPS AND CAPS, OR HAZARDOUS AIR POLLUTANTS AND CRITERIA, AIR POLLUTANTS.

AND SO HERE'S JUST KIND OF A VISUALIZATION OF THESE GRANTS AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

OBVIOUSLY THE TOP TIERS ARE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

THOSE ARE INTENDED MORE FOR STATE DOTS.

AND THOSE TIER D AND E IS MORE WHAT THIS COALITION WOULD BE LOOKING FOR FROM TWO TO AS MUCH AS $50 MILLION.

WE THINK IT'LL BE CLOSER TO MAYBE 20 TO $25 MILLION AMONG THE COLLABORATORS IN THIS COALITION.

AND SO THAT WOULD COVER POTENTIALLY OVER A THOUSAND MILES OF, OF THESE PRESERVATION TREATMENTS THAT ALSO ENABLE THE PAVEMENT TO EAT SMOG.

SO THIS IS JUST A QUICK VISUALIZATION.

AS I WRAP UP, YOU CAN SEE THE COMMUNITIES THERE IN FLORIDA.

THE EPA INTENDS TO DIVIDE THIS UP EQUITABLY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE USING A LOT OF TOOLS FOR THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SCREENING TOOLS.

SO THIS IS INTENDED TO AT LEAST MEET THAT 40% WHERE WE'RE ENGAGING THIS AND IMPLEMENTING THIS IN DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY CRITICAL.

A LOT OF THE COMMUNITIES, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NOT HAVE VERY MUCH TREE COVER.

THEY MAY NOT HAVE VERY MUCH VEGETATION.

SO THEY HAVE A HOTTER ENVIRONMENT.

THEIR ELECTRICITY USE IS HIGHER.

THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE CHARGING EQUITY.

SO EVS MAY NOT BE A POTENTIAL FOR THEM.

SO THESE COMMUNITIES ARE SOMETHING THAT THAT WE'RE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING IN THIS.

GRANT. SO THAT'S PART OF THE GENERAL COMPETITION.

THERE'S A SCORING AND I WON'T GET INTO TOO MANY OF THOSE DETAILS, BUT THIS SHOULD SCORE VERY HIGHLY.

AND A LOT OF THESE METRICS, IT ALSO THIS GRANT IS INTENDED TO GO REALLY FOCUS ON INNOVATION.

AND IT REALLY DOESN'T GET A LOT MORE INNOVATIVE THAN THIS.

SOME OF THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS MIGHT BE GOING AFTER, YOU KNOW, A SOLAR FARM OR A CHARGING STATION.

THERE'S ALREADY EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE GRANT INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE FROM DOE AND OTHERS TO, TO GET THESE KINDS OF INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS DONE.

THIS IS COMPLETELY UNIQUE.

SO WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S GOING TO SCORE.

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WELL, APRIL 1ST IS THE NEXT DEADLINE.

OBVIOUSLY MARCH 1ST, WE'VE WE'VE MET THAT APRIL 1ST IS THE NEXT DEADLINE, AND THIS MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE IN OCTOBER 1ST.

SO IT'S AVAILABLE IN FY 2025 FOR THE COALITION AND CERTAINLY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT IT.

SO SAVINGS COULD OCCUR AS EARLY AS THIS FALL.

AND THIS COULD REACH OUT TO ABOUT A 4 TO 5 YEAR PROGRAM.

SO THE SAVINGS IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

AS I SAID, WE HAVE THESE PLANNING TOOLS SO WE CAN OVERLAY THE EXISTING MAPS OF WHERE THE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES ARE WITHIN THE COUNTY AND CITY, AND WE CAN ACTUALLY GO LOOK FOR THOSE ELIGIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ELIGIBLE PAVEMENT AND GO MAKE SURE THAT WE DEPLOY THE TECHNOLOGY THERE.

SO AND HERE'S JUST ANOTHER VISUALIZATION OF THAT.

AND THEN FINAL THOUGHTS BY BEING ABLE TO EXTEND THE PAVEMENT, WE'RE SAVING TAXPAYERS MONEY.

WE OBVIOUSLY ARE ALSO SAVING AN EXPENDITURE THAT THE CITY HAS ALREADY DEEMED SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE DOING.

AND IN ADDITION, WE'RE TAKING THAT INVESTMENT THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS MAKING, AND WE'RE ABLE TO CAPTURE THESE EMISSIONS AT A VERY LOW COST.

IN OTHER WORDS, $0 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH IS VERY CRITICAL.

SO THESE NEXT STEPS REALLY BECOME YOU KNOW, QUITE EXCITING IS BEING ABLE TO TAKE THIS PROGRAM AND DEPLOY IT AS, AS EARLY AS THIS FALL.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D ENTERTAIN THOSE NOW.

THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

VERY GOOD PRESENTATION.

SO DOES THE BOARD.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WHAT? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR PALM BAY? AS PALM BAY KIND OF THOUGHT ABOUT THE PLAN YET WE INTEND TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL ON MARCH 27TH.

I BELIEVE IT'S 27TH.

17TH. MARCH 17TH.

SO I WON'T HAVE ANY ANSWER UNTIL AFTER THIS.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE.

THAT'S A COMMENT WE'VE HEARD BEFORE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE EXCITING PART, IS THAT ALL OF THIS COMES FROM YEARS AND YEARS OF ACADEMIC RESEARCH.

AND THE DISCOVERY OF PHOTOCATALYSIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN THE 1970S, BUT WE HAD NO GOOD WAY TO DELIVER THE TITANIUM TO THE PAVEMENT IN A COST EFFECTIVE WAY UNTIL NOW.

SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA? I READ THAT IT EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE ROAD.

DO YOU HAVE DATA ON THAT? ON HOW LONG OR IS IT DEPENDENT ON TRAFFIC? YEAH. THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THE BASE LIKE FOUNDATIONAL TECHNOLOGY IS WHAT WE'RE ALREADY USING.

AND THAT EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT BY ABOUT FIVE YEARS FOR EACH TREATMENT.

THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT IT ACTUALLY COULD DO MORE, BECAUSE IT'S REFLECTING THAT UV RADIATION AND THE SUN IS WHAT CAUSES A LOT OF DETERIORATION ON FLORIDA ROADS, BECAUSE IT JUST IS ALWAYS THERE.

IT'S IT'S OMNIPRESENT.

THE SUN JUST BEATS DOWN ON THE, ON THE ROADS AND REALLY KIND OF WEARS THEM OUT, BURNS THEM UP.

DOES THE ASSAULT OF VERE AIRPORT WAS PART OF THEIR INCORPORATING THIS PROJECT? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU ALL TALKED TO THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT YET? SO WE'VE TALKED TO THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT.

IT'S FAA IS A LITTLE BIT YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE.

SO THEY'RE REALLY RELUCTANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT TOUCHES AIRCRAFT UNTIL THEY'VE SEEN LIKE, PROJECTS LIKE THE VERO AIRPORT.

THEY SAW THE ORLANDO AIRPORT PROJECT DONE.

AND THEN WE HAVE A VERY LARGE PROJECT, ABOUT 30 ACRES ON $140 MILLION CARGO FACILITY FOR DFW AIRPORT.

AND SO ONCE WE KIND OF CLEAR THOSE, IT ENABLES FAA TO KIND OF LOOSEN THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT.

OF COURSE, UNDERSTANDABLY, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO KINDS OF CONCERNS WHEN AIRCRAFT ARE TAKING OFF AND LANDING ON, ON THE PAVEMENT, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. SO.

COOL. OKAY. WITH THE THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE RED, THE SMOKE, THE SMOG, SMOG.

NO SMOG.

HOW DOES THE HOW DOES THE ROAD CAPTURE THAT IN A SENSE, IF IT'S AIRBORNE? YEAH. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SUN, THE UV RADIATION TOUCHES THE CATALYST.

SO AS SOON AS THE SUN COMES UP, IT ACTIVATES THE ROAD.

IT CREATES THIS EXCITED ELECTRON ENERGY FIELD, IF YOU WILL, FROM THE PAVEMENT UP ABOUT 15 TO 20FT.

AND ANY OF THOSE EMISSIONS THAT OCCUR IN THAT AREA, WHICH THAT'S WHERE ALL THE TAILPIPES ARE AT, THEN IT IMMEDIATELY, YOU KNOW, SWAPS ELECTRONS AND TURNS THOSE GASES TO SOLIDS AND THEY FALL HARMLESSLY DOWN TO THE ROAD AS LIKE CARBONATES OR NITRATES.

AND AGAIN, IT'S IT'S A TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEEN USED BY DOW CHEMICAL COMPANY ON SOME OF THEIR PAINTS.

ALCOA HAS AN ALUMINUM THAT EATS SMOG.

IF FOR ANY CATHOLICS IN THE AUDIENCE, THE JUBILEE CHURCH IN AT THE VATICAN WAS BUILT WITH TITANIUM DIOXIDE SO THAT THAT CHURCH EATS

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SMOG. SO YOU'LL YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THESE FROM TIME TO TIME.

BILLBOARDS THAT EAT SMOG.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A NATURAL EXTENSION OF THAT, THIS PAVEMENT THAT THEN EATS SMOG.

SO. YEAH. OKAY.

AND TWO MORE JUST ABSOLUTELY MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE.

AND AND I GOT TO SEE YOU ON MONDAY.

SO NOW I HAVE. YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT.

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IT.

THE YOU HAD A GOOD EXPLANATION ABOUT KIND OF THE CONCERN OF ITS SPRAYING, ITS LIQUID ENVIRONMENTAL RUNOFF, AQUIFERS, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN? JUST KNOWS.

AND THE COMMITTEE HERE. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONCERNS OKAY, WHAT IS THIS LOOK LIKE AS RUNOFF.

AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

IS THIS A STORMWATER ISSUE.

AND THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO A LOT OF WHAT WE SEE HERE IS WHEN WE'RE SPRAY APPLYING THIS ONTO THE ROAD THE, THE MATERIAL, WHAT'S CALLED FLUXES WITH THE ASPHALT BINDER.

SO IT COMBINES WITH THE BINDER AND THEN THE WATER BECAUSE IT'S AN EMULSION, THE WATER JUST EVAPORATES HARMLESSLY, OF COURSE.

AND SO WHAT'S LEFT IS JUST THESE TITANIUM PARTICLES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, LINKED TO THE ROADWAY.

SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WASH OFF.

THEY'RE KIND OF CHEMICALLY BONDED TO THE PAVEMENT.

AND SO AND OF COURSE, IF THERE IS SOME TITANIUM THAT'S NOT CAPTURED, IT'S INERT.

SO WE'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, STRICT REQUIREMENTS LIKE CALIFORNIA PROP 65 FOR THE STORMWATER, THOUGH.

THE EXCITING PART IS MICROPLASTIC POLLUTION HAS BECOME A VERY BIG ISSUE.

PFAS, IF YOU HEAR A PFAS, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE AVERAGE STEAK, I THINK HAS LIKE 90 MICROPLASTIC PARTICLES IN IT KIND OF MAKES YOU THINK A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WITH THIS DECOMPOSING THAT YOU KNOW, I THINK ON MONDAY WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, WELL, WHAT IF WE JUST HAVE ALL EV CARS? DON'T WE NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT EMISSIONS ANYMORE? ELECTRIC VEHICLES ACTUALLY PRODUCE MORE MICROPLASTICS BECAUSE THEY HAVE GREATER TIRE WEAR.

THEY'RE HEAVIER. THEY HAVE THE REGENERATIVE BRAKING.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T SOLVE ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS. IT SOLVES, OBVIOUSLY, JUST THE NOX EMISSIONS AND THOSE TYPES OF EMISSIONS.

BUT FOR WATER QUALITY, THIS COULD BE A VERY BENEFICIAL YOU KNOW, USE APPLICATION.

OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, SO IF YOU IF WE WENT TODAY AND COVERED ALL OF PALM BAY STREETS WITH 100% APPLICATION AND THAT 5 TO 7 YEARS, IS IT THE SAME AMOUNT THAT HAS TO BE APPLIED AGAIN, OR IS IT KIND OF LIKE JUST A RESURFACING TYPE DEAL? SO I KNOW IT'S KIND OF BEEN A NEGATIVE WORD LATELY, BUT THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT WE COULD USE KIND OF A BOOSTER APPROACH.

SO ALL WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS POTENTIALLY LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ROADS THAT HAVE LESS TITANIUM, THAT WHERE THEY NEED MORE EFFICIENCY, OR ROADS THAT MAYBE HAVE HAD TO BE RESURFACED, THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO GO IN AND TOUCH WE CAN JUST PUT A LIGHT APPLICATION AND KIND OF BOOST THOSE AGAIN.

IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THIS FUNDING WILL COME BACK AROUND.

WE DON'T KNOW. THIS IS A ONE TIME GRANT, BUT.

OBVIOUSLY, IF IT GOES WELL, YOU WOULD EXPECT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GET MORE INVOLVED WITH WITH THIS TYPE OF AN APPROACH.

SO BUT EVEN IF THE IF THE PAVEMENT NEEDS TO BE REJUVENATED AGAIN, WE CAN SPRAY APPLY THE SAME MATERIAL WE'RE USING RIGHT NOW CALLED RECLAMATION.

AND BECAUSE IT'S TRANSLUCENT, IT WON'T INTERRUPT THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE DOING ITS JOB.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THAT 5 TO 7 YEAR PERIOD THAT WOULD EXTEND THAT BEYOND ITS, YOU KNOW, CURRENT ESTIMATED LIFE, WHICH WE'RE OF COURSE, BEING CONSERVATIVE, JUST TO BE SURE.

SO COOL.

AND THEN AND ONE LAST ONE, ONE.

DO YOU GET TO DO THIS A THIRD TIME FOR COUNCIL ON THE ON THE 17TH I DO.

SO THESE ARE ALL PRACTICE REPS.

YEAH. SO MAYBE ALL MAYBE ALL FOR THE SAKE.

I'LL PUT A COUPLE NEW SLIDES IN OR SOMETHING.

SO IT'S GOT A SEQUEL.

AWESOME. WELL DOES ANY LAST MINUTE QUESTIONS OR I ACTUALLY DO.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF I READ IT RIGHT, THAT IT REDUCES THE HEAT EFFECT YOU HAVE FROM HEAT READING OFF OF ROADS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN MY YARD AND WHEN I GO OUT TO THE WALMART LIKE THAT THAT IS REDUCED THAT.

YEAH, DEFINITELY. SO BLACK ASPHALT AS WE KNOW, AND THERE'S A LOT OF BLACK ASPHALT BECAUSE PUBLIC WORKS HAS BEEN WORKING HARD WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN AND ENGAGING WITH RESURFACING CONTRACTORS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF NEW ASPHALT OUT THERE.

THAT NEW ASPHALT ABSORBS A LOT OF THAT UV ENERGY.

THAT'S WHY WALKING THE DOG, YOU KNOW, ON THAT PAVEMENT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC.

SO THIS IF YOU CAN IMAGINE IT'S REFLECTING A LOT OF THAT RADIATION AND THE ROAD DOESN'T GET AS HOT.

AND SO IT DOESN'T AT NIGHT WHEN TEMPERATURES COOL DOWN, IT DOESN'T RE-EMIT THAT THAT HEAT ENERGY.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE GET THAT THAT COOLER CITY ENVIRONMENT.

AND WITH THE NUMBER OF MILES WE WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO TREAT IN THE BREVARD COUNTY AREA, IT'S OVER A THOUSAND.

SO IT'S A REALLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OF PAVEMENT THAT WE'RE TREATING.

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SO. SO WOULD THIS PRODUCT BE AVAILABLE TO PRIVATE PAVING COMPANIES AS WELL THAT DO THE PARKING LOTS OF BUSINESSES? AND THAT'S WHERE I'VE SEEN A LOT OF BLACK PAVEMENT GOING DOWN LATELY, TOO.

YES, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE LARGE LIKE AMAZON FULFILLMENT.

NOT AMAZON PERSONALLY, BUT THE THE COMPANIES THAT BUILD THOSE.

SO WE'VE WORKED WITH COMPANIES LIKE THAT TO SPRAY APPLY NEW FACILITIES.

THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF TRUCK TRAFFIC.

SO THEY HAVE A LOT OF EMISSIONS THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING ON THERE.

WE'VE ALSO LOOKED AT LIKE, YOU KNOW, SPORTING VENUES, LET'S SAY, WHICH HAVE VERY LARGE PARKING LOTS.

THIS DALLAS FORT WORTH CARGO AREA, THAT'S 30 ACRES WHERE PLANES JUST IDLE WITH ALL OF THAT, YOU KNOW, NOX AND CO2 BEING EMITTED FROM THE JET ENGINE.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS AND THESE APPLICATIONS.

SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AGGRESSIVELY KIND OF SPINNING UP THIS AND DOING THE BEST WE CAN TO, TO TO TACKLE THESE REALLY CHALLENGING, YOU KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

FOR CLARIFICATION, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE THAT THE NEXT THE COUNCIL MEETING IS ACTUALLY THE 21ST OF MARCH, NOT THE 17TH.

THERE YOU GO. I'M CHANGING ALL MY CALENDARS AS WE TALK.

KEEPING UP WITH IT? WE'LL GET IT DOWN PAT.

YES. SO, LAST MINUTE QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE TYPICAL TIMELINE ON, LIKE, A THOUSAND? YOU SAID A THOUSAND MILES OF OF TREATMENT.

SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO THAT WILL BE STAGED OVER YEARS.

BUT I'LL PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE ARRIVED TO DO ABOUT ONE POINT 2,000,000YDĀ², WHICH IS ABOUT 180 MILES HERE IN PALM BAY ABOUT JANUARY 18TH.

AND WE FINISHED TOMORROW.

SO, YOU KNOW, WITH A MONTH AND A HALF, TWO MONTHS WE'RE ABLE TO DO, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES.

WE'RE STARTING BREVARD COUNTY.

THEY HAVE ABOUT 100 MILES JUST WITH THE STANDARD TREATMENT.

SO LET'S SAY EACH YEAR, WITHIN THREE MONTHS, THIS APPLICATION IS DONE.

BUT THE IMPORTANT PART IS THAT TO THE RESIDENTS, THE ROAD IS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY PASSABLE.

AND SO WE'RE NOT DISRUPTING, YOU KNOW, NORMAL OPERATIONS OF THE CITY.

WE GET IN GET OUT AND STAY OUT.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE CRITICAL THINGS IS JUST BEING ABLE TO TO SPRAY APPLY THIS QUICKLY.

IT PENETRATES AND WE OPEN IT BACK UP TO TRAFFIC.

AND REALLY FOR THE MOST PART THERE, AS THE, YOU KNOW, DAYS GO BY, THEY'RE UNAWARE THAT ANYTHING'S BEEN DONE.

IT'S INVISIBLE. SO IT DOESN'T REALLY SHOW OR CHANGE THE COLORATION OF THE ROAD.

SO AND WHICH ONE WHERE IS THE CLOSEST TO PALM BAY? THAT IT'S FOR THE TITANIUM.

YEAH. IT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE ORLANDO AIRPORT PROJECT THAT WE DID OR THE CITY OF ORLANDO.

THEY HAVE A DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY CALLED PARAMOUR.

AND WE DID A ROAD CALLED WESTMORELAND.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE EARLY PILOT PROJECTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE PARAMOUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SOME OF THE WORST AIR QUALITY IN THE STATE.

SO WE TREATED THAT ROAD AND WERE, YOU KNOW, MONITORING THAT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

WHEN WAS THAT WHEN THAT WAS DONE IN 2018.

COMPLETED IN 2018.

AND SO IT'S JUST TURNED FIVE LAST YEAR, SO IT'S STILL PERFORMING QUITE WELL.

AND WE MEASURE THE REDUCTION.

SO THE EFFICIENCIES HAVE BEEN AT THE FIVE YEAR MARK HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE FROM HIGH 80% TO 90%.

SO THAT'S HOW EFFICIENT IT STILL IS.

IT'S OPERATING, YOU KNOW, VERY EFFICIENTLY OVER THAT TIME FRAME.

SO. AWESOME.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR DOING THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, MR. EVERS. YES. AND HAVING PAYMENT TECHNOLOGIES.

SHARE YOUR TIME WITH US.

AND I THINK NOW IS IF THERE'S ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC WE'LL HEAR ANY COMMENTS.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? JUST IF YOU'LL COME TO THE PODIUM AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND IT'S IF IT'S JUST A QUESTION, YOU PROBABLY WON'T GO.

BUT WE ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. I'M LYDIA BARBER, I LIVE AT 1638 FORK TERRACE SOUTHEAST.

AND MY QUESTION IS THIS, I TAKE IT THAT WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING THIS, IT'S PROBABLY REQUIRED WEATHER CONDITIONS. SO DOES THAT AFFECT YOU VERY MUCH IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

YES, WE REALLY ARE FORTUNATE HERE IN FLORIDA THAT WE'RE WORKING HERE IN FEBRUARY.

WE HAVE FOLKS THAT COME DOWN FROM UP NORTH WHERE IT'S SNOWING.

SO WE DO LIKE TO BE DRY PAVEMENTS AND IN ESSENCE, NO THREAT OF IMMEDIATE RAIN.

SO IF THERE'S A SHOWER OR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE OPERATION, WITHIN A COUPLE HOURS, WE WOULD CEASE APPLICATION AND WAIT UNTIL THERE'S NO CHANCE OF IMMINENT RAIN.

IF IT'S RAINED ON LATER THAT DAY OR AFTER THE MATERIALS ALREADY PENETRATED, THERE'S NO RISK OF OF WASHOUT.

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SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CREWS ARE TRAINED TO WATCH FOR, IS JUST MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO THREATENING WEATHER THAT'S COMING.

AND FORTUNATELY IN FLORIDA, IT'S JUST RAIN THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

SO. ANYONE ELSE? ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE WILL MOVE INTO OTHER BUSINESS.

[OTHER BUSINESS]

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS NEMO CIRCLE COMMUNITY GARDEN UPDATE.

OKAY. HELLO, EVERYONE.

HELLO. SO STAFF BRIEFED ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR DISCUSSION.

LAST MEETING. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HERE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING THE TOPIC.

DO YOU WANT TO LET THEM SPEAK FIRST? AND THEN WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

DO YOU WANT SHOULD WE DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW JUST OR HAVE THEM? WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I THINK SOME OF THE CONVERSATION, AS I UNDERSTAND IT WELL, THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, I ASSUME YOU ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE GARDEN, SINCE I ASSUME YOU LIVE VERY NEARBY.

BUT THE SORT OF HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW IS APPARENTLY MANY, MANY YEARS AGO 20.

2005, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THE CITY ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH A NONPROFIT GROUP OF FORMED BY RESIDENTS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

AND IF I'M INCORRECT IN THE HISTORY, I APOLOGIZE.

YOU CAN LET ME KNOW AFTER BUT FORMED FORMED AN AGREEMENT WITH A GROUP OF INTERESTED RESIDENTS WHO WANTED TO USE A CITY PARCEL IN THE LOK MA NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF NEMO CIRCLE.

AND APPARENTLY IT WAS FAIRLY ACTIVE FOR A WHILE.

I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFFHAND WHEN IT KIND OF STOPPED BEING ACTIVE, BUT I GUESS INTEREST WANED FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND IT ONLY RECENTLY CAME TO OUR ATTENTION. HADN'T EVEN BEEN ON ON CITY ANY CITY DEPARTMENTS RADAR TO BE LIKE MAINTAINING IT, KEEPING IT CLEAN.

WE WEREN'T REALLY, HONESTLY NOT OVERLY AWARE OF ITS PRESENCE.

SO IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION.

SO RECENTLY WE WENT OUT AND WE ACTUALLY CLEANED UP.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CLUTTER AND THINGS THAT WERE BROKEN DOWN.

SO ALL THAT'S BEEN CLEANED UP AND IF YOU SAW THAT, IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

THAT'S WHY JUST TO KIND OF MAKE IT LOOK LESS OF AN EYESORE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE BASICALLY IN A PHASE WHERE WE'RE DECIDING WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE PROPERTY, WHAT IS THE NEED FOR IT IN THAT, THAT PRIOR CONDITION, BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN USED IN THAT WAY FOR A LONG TIME.

I CAN TELL YOU, JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE RESIDENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO STATE AT SOME POINT IS THIS IS THE KIND OF PARCEL THAT THE CITY HAS NO INTENTION OF SELLING OR SERVICING ANYWAY.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH A GARDEN THAT COMES BACK TO LIFE OR NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR SALE.

OUR POLICY CURRENTLY, FOR ALL LITTLE, LITTLE PARCELS LIKE THAT THAT ARE IN NEIGHBORHOODS CITYWIDE IS THAT WE'RE LEAVING THEM FOR FUTURE NEEDS FOR THE CITY, FOR STORMWATER, FOR UTILITIES, FOR WHATEVER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS MIGHT BE, OR THEY JUST BECOME GREEN SPACE FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY VERY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE SELL IN TERMS OF PROPERTY.

CITY OWNS, WE HAVE A LOT OF PARCELS CITYWIDE, BUT THAT'S THE KIND OF PARCEL THAT WOULD NOT BE ON OUR RADAR TO SELL.

JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE GIST OF, I THINK, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT LED US TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TODAY? A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT NEMO.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW FROM A STAFFING STANDPOINT IS I DON'T HAVE A TEAM OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO RUNNING A GARDEN LIKE THIS.

SO THAT'S CERTAINLY PART OF OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR CONCERN.

IF THERE'S A LARGE CONTINGENT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO REFORM THE NONPROFIT OR, YOU KNOW, SHOW SOME INTEREST, CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM FROM FOLKS TODAY AND TALK THROUGH THAT. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MY, MY INITIAL HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.

AND I'LL RESPOND TO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

YES. JEAN, SORRY.

I THINK ONE QUESTION IS WE WERE WONDERING WHAT THE BYLAWS SAY IN TERMS OF HOW THE THE LAND WAS INTENDED TO BE USED.

AND WE KNOW THAT'S CHANGEABLE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE STARTING WITH IN THAT RESPECT.

WELL, STAFF DID SOME RESEARCH ON THE HISTORY AND AGENDA MEMO THAT WENT TO COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, THOSE MANY YEARS AGO WE DID, I BELIEVE, FIND THE BYLAWS.

THERE WAS AN ACTUAL 500 1C3 NONPROFIT THAT HAD BEEN FORMED.

SO THAT AGREEMENT AND THE BYLAWS ARE ALL TIED TO THE CITY WORKING WITH THAT NONPROFIT, WHICH I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF IT'S EVEN I DON'T THINK IT'S ACTIVE RIGHT NOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO SOMEONE MIGHT BE RAISING THEIR HAND, SO THEY'LL TELL ME LATER.

WE'RE HERE TO LEARN. I APPRECIATE THAT, YES.

SO WE'LL FIND OUT IF IT IS ACTIVE.

AND IF IT IS, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.

IF NOT, THEN THE AGREEMENT BASICALLY WOULD HAVE TO RESTART WITH A NEW GROUP IF THERE WAS A NEW GROUP, YOU KNOW.

SO SO IT'S IT'S IF IT'S AN INACTIVE 500 AND 1C3, THEN THAT KIND OF NULLIFIES THE BYLAWS.

YOU WOULD JUST RESTART BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, RESTART, FORM A NEW ORGANIZATION, OR MAYBE, YOU KNOW, BRING THE OLD ONE BACK TO LIFE.

IT JUST DEPENDS. I MEAN, IF THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE CURRENT STATE OF THAT NONPROFIT, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO US TONIGHT, I THINK.

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YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

IT'S A BIG RESEARCH PROJECT.

YES. WITH GOOD OPPORTUNITY.

SO WE CAN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH.

JUST LIKE BEFORE STATING YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO SPEAK ON ON THIS BEHALF? HI, MY NAME IS AIDA SANZ, AND I'M HERE WITH WE'RE ON 270 JARRAH STREET.

I'M HERE WITH FRAN.

FRAN WAS THE IS THE.

WE ARE THE PREVIOUS MEMBERS OF THIS COMMUNITY GARDEN, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS NOT A 503.

IF EVERYONE C3 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF I MAY ANYONE THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN INVOLVED IN THE ORGANIZATION HISTORICALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND TALK THROUGH IT WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO MAYBE BEFORE YOU ALL LEAVE, I COULD GET YOUR NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS I CAN CALL YOU.

THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS MARK GORDON.

I LIVE AT 985 PEACHLAND AVENUE.

WE JUST KIND OF GOT INVOLVED BECAUSE THE LADIES THAT WERE RUNNING WERE HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH IT, AND WE SAW THAT THEY NEEDED SOME HELP BEFORE WE COULD EVEN GET GOING. ERIC AND HIS CREW HAD COME OUT AND START CLEANING UP.

IT WAS JUST A MESS.

AND I THINK WHEN COVID HIT THINGS KIND OF WENT DOWNHILL FOR THE GROUP.

AND BEFORE THAT, IT WAS A THRIVING GARDEN.

THEY HAD EVENTS, THEY HAD MONTHLY SPEAKERS THAT WOULD COME IN PEOPLE TO HELP THEM RUN THE GARDEN, TELL THEM WHAT TO DO.

THEY DID A HALLOWEEN THING.

I THINK THEY DID A CHRISTMAS THING.

I MIGHT HAVE MIGHT BE EXAGGERATING ON THAT ONE, BUT SO THE COMMUNITY WAS INVOLVED.

SO ONCE, ONCE WE FOUND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, WE WE PASSED THE WORD OUT AND WE HAD PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WERE EXPECTING MORE PEOPLE, BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU KNEW WE WERE INTERESTED IN DOING SOMETHING.

GREAT TO HEAR IT'S NOT FOR SALE.

NEVER KNOW. THESE DAYS, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S FOR SALE.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO TURN INTO A PARKING LOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR SOME DIFFERENT.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD GET MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT OVER THERE BY THAT FAMOUS SCHOOL THAT WE ALL LOVE OVER THERE.

SO WE DIDN'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

SO WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

WE DON'T KNOW. WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE BYLAWS OR WHATEVER'S GOING TO HAPPEN FROM THERE.

AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE IT A COMMUNITY PROJECT, SOMETHING WE CAN GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER, FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND SEE WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, BEST, BEST INTEREST OF THE GROUP. SO AWESOME.

THAT'S ABOUT THAT'S ALL I.

COME ON UP. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING, BUT THE GARDEN WAS BEAUTIFUL.

IF YOU'LL DO YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.

FRANCIS DEANGELIS 285 HUMKE STREET, NORTHEAST BOMBAY 32907.

THANK YOU. I CAME IN THE GARDEN ABOUT WHEN IT WAS ALREADY OPERATING AND GOING BEAUTIFULLY WITH THE MASTER GARDENER AND IDA.

MY NEIGHBOR WENT STRAIGHT OVER AND CAME OVER AND SHE WAS COMPLIMENTING MY YARD, AND I SAID SHE HAD SOME BEANS WITH HER THAT SHE HAD GOTTEN FROM THE GARDEN.

AND I SAID, OH, YOU GREW THOSE, YOU KNOW.

SO I NEVER WAS A GARDENER.

I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT GARDENING OTHER THAN MY AUNT HAD SOME BEANS AND I'D PICKED THEM ONE TIME AS A CHILD.

AND I THOUGHT, OH, THIS WILL BE A COOL THING FOR MY GRANDBABIES.

TO HAVE GAGA MYSELF TO LEARN HOW TO DO SO.

I GOT INVOLVED WITH THE GARDEN AND LIKE I SAID AT THAT TIME, THEY HAD A MASTER GARDENER WHO TAUGHT US SO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS HOW TO USE COMPOST, HOW TO MAKE THE, THE, THE FISH EMULSION STUFF THAT YOU PUT ON THERE, HOW TO GET ALL THE, THE NUTRIENTS INTO THE SOIL BECAUSE THE SOIL IS YOUR BIGGEST THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE HEALTHY SOIL. WE HAD WORM COMPOST.

WE, WE HAD HALLOWEEN LONG LINES OF KIDS THAT CAME UP THAT WE WOULD DRESS UP AS WITCHES, ALL OF US, AND WE WOULD HAND OUT CANDY TO

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THEM. WE HAD CINCO DE MAYO PARTIES WHERE WE HAD OUR HOMEMADE SALSA, AND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, VOTED ON THE SALSA.

AND THEN SOMEBODY GOT A TROPHY.

AND ONE YEAR I GOT THAT UGLY TROPHY, AND WE'D GOTTEN IT OUT OF THE TRASH CAN FROM OUR NEIGHBOR THAT IS HERE.

BEFORE SHE OWNED THE HOUSE, SOMEBODY HAD A BUNCH OF TROPHIES, AND SO WE PICKED IT OUT OF THERE AND DECORATED IT UP.

BAA BAA BAA BAA BAA. BUT THE GARDEN WENT ALONG VERY NICELY FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND THEN IT GOT WHERE WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY TO JOIN.

AND WHEN THEY JOINED THEY DIDN'T STAY BECAUSE IT REQUIRED WORK AND THEY DIDN'T WANT TO.

AND WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE, WE HAVE A GENERATOR, WE HAD A GENERATOR AND A SHED AND WE HAD THE SCOUTS THAT CAME IN AND SET UP A IRRIGATION SYSTEM USING PVC PIPES.

WE HAD THEM ALL STORED UNDERNEATH A ALSO ANOTHER CUB SCOUT KIND OF PROJECT, BOY SCOUT.

WE HAD THE GIRL SCOUTS COME IN AND DO THINGS FOR THE GARDEN, BUT ANYWAY, WE HAD ZONES IN THERE, AND TO RUN THE ZONE YOU HAD TO TURN THE PVC THING ON.

AND YOU SAW THOSE, I'M SURE WHEN YOU WERE IN THERE, ALL THOSE WHERE THEY WERE ALL CODED.

AND SO WE WOULD TURN ON OUR ZONES AND THEN THE WATER WOULD COME OUT OF THE LITTLE HOLES.

BUT BEFORE THAT WE JUST USED USED BUCKETS.

OKAY, I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY. THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S OKAY.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL GARDEN.

YES. THANK YOU.

GOOD NIGHT. WHEN EVERYBODY WOULD JOIN.

YES, MA'AM. WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? HI, MY NAME IS CINDY GORDON.

I LIVE AT 985 PEACHLAND AVENUE NORTHEAST.

I'M THAT GUY'S WIFE.

ANYWAY, WE LIVED THERE FOR SIX YEARS AND SAW THIS GARDEN AND IT WAS VERY ACTIVE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I AM THRILLED TO HEAR IT'S NOT BEING SOLD BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR MAIN CONCERN.

WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT REMAINS A GREEN SPACE.

THE GARDEN HAS LOST ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE PARTICIPATING.

AND I KNOW IDA AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK, BUT IT WASN'T.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN CONTRIBUTE.

MAYBE THERE'S GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE OR SOMETHING WHERE WE COULD MAYBE LEAVE IT AS A GREEN SPACE, BUT MAYBE THERE'S THERE'S A PART OF IT.

IT'S A SIX ACRE PLOT, AND THERE'S A PART OF IT THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ACTUAL GARDEN.

LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT AN ACRE.

IT HAS BEEN VANDALIZED.

AND IN THE PAST.

THAT'S PART OF WHY IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HAVING TROUBLE KEEPING IT CLEAN.

AND WHEN THEY CAME IN, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A SHED.

THEY BROKE INTO IT AND BROKE SEVERAL TIMES.

SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT BE SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S JUST A GREEN SPACE THAT REMAINS, MAYBE THE FIVE ACRES NATURAL JUST LIKE IT IS.

BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING THE CITY CAN CONTRIBUTE.

AS FAR AS MAYBE MAKING IT A SMALL LITTLE PLAYGROUND OR MAYBE A PLACE THAT HAS BENCHES, OR MAYBE THE CITY JUST COMING IN AND MAINTAINING THAT SMALL LITTLE AREA THAT'S ALREADY CLEARED OUT AND FENCED JUST TO MAKE IT A NEIGHBORHOOD, SOMETHING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST TO KEEP IT A GREEN SPACE.

BUT HAVING CITY FUNDS POSSIBLY THAT COULD HELP WITH IT, OR CITY MAINTENANCE THAT COULD HELP WITH IT.

SO THAT'S MINE.

THANK YOU.

WELL, MY NAME IS RICK SPEARS AND I LIVE AT 230 NARRAGANSETT STREET.

EXCUSE ME. I'M HERE WITH MY MOTHER AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.

WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS. MY MOM LIVES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM IT, AND ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS IS HERE ALSO THAT LIVES ACROSS FROM IT ON THE BOTH CORNERS RIGHT THERE.

AND THE OTHER NEIGHBOR ON THE OTHER CORNER IS HERE AS WELL.

WE'VE HAD INCIDENCES WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN PARKING THERE OVERNIGHT, AND I HAD AN INCIDENT PERSONALLY, WHICH I DON'T WANT TO REALLY GET INTO, BUT IT INVOLVED THE POLICE AND PEOPLE THREATENING AND WHATNOT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE AT LEAST A SIGN OR SOMETHING PUT UP THERE.

NO PARKING AFTER DARK.

BECAUSE I HAVE WITNESSED PEOPLE DOING DRUGS THERE.

I HAVE TO CONFRONT PEOPLE.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT MY SAFETY OF MY MOTHER AND HER NEIGHBORS.

I LIVE ON THE SAME STREET, BUT IT CHANGES NAMES.

SO THAT'S THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD ASK AND REQUEST THAT AT LEAST THEY PUT A SIGN UP.

NO PARKING AFTER DARK, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEMS EXIST.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

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WHAT'S THE. IF IT'S REALLY QUICK BECAUSE THE RULES ARE JUST ONE THREE MINUTES PER PERSON. IS IT A QUICK COMMENT? YEAH, IT JUST COME UP IF YOU JUST COME TO THE MIC AND IF IT'S REAL QUICK, I JUST DON'T WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THE THE POLICY THAT'S SET FOR THE CITY.

THAT'S THAT'S THE ONE REASON WHY WE WERE WE WERE GETTING OUT OF IT BECAUSE WE WERE AFRAID OF THE VANDALISM.

THEY KEPT TEARING UP THE SHED, MAKING HOLES IN IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

THEY WOULD TAKE THEY TOOK ALL OF OUR SUPPLIES AND THREW IT ALL OVER THE GROUND.

I, THIS HUSBAND AND I SPENT A WHOLE DAY THERE CLEANING THAT THAT STUFF UP.

THEY WOULD TAKE THINGS AND PURPOSELY BREAK THEM.

THEY TOOK OUR CONCRETE BLOCKS AND BROKE THEM UP THAT WERE AROUND OUR PLOTS FOR VEGETABLE PLOTS AND STUFF, AND THAT WAS OUR CONCERN.

WHY WE WANTED TOTALLY OUT OF THE GARDEN, BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT THERE.

I MEAN, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AT NIGHT THERE.

YEAH. AND THEY THEY JUST KEEP COMING BACK AND YOU PATCH SOMETHING UP, THEY'D MAKE ANOTHER HOLE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

YOU PATCH THAT UP, YOU'D HAVE TO PUT A WHOLE PANEL IN THERE.

AND THEY KEPT AND THEY'RE STILL DOING IT.

I MEAN THEY, THEY JUST I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE JUST COMING IN FROM THE FRONT.

I THINK THEY'RE COMING IN FROM THE BACK.

OKAY. BY THE, WHERE THE WATER IS AND STUFF.

I THINK THEY COME IN THAT BACK GATE A LOT TOO.

BUT WE HAD THOSE GATES LOCKED AND STUFF.

THEY BROKE THEM ALL DOWN.

THEY TORE THEM UP.

WE CAN'T DO IT EITHER.

AND I YEAH, I'VE HAD MY KNEE REPLACED TWICE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

YEAH. AND I CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT ANYMORE.

BUT IF I COULD, I'D SIT OUT THERE WITH THE PISTOL AT NIGHT AND CATCH IT.

YEAH. I MEAN, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SO FRUSTRATED CLEANING UP SOMETHING AND THEY, THEY DO REALLY NASTY THINGS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT REALLY SCARED THE OUT OF ME THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET HURT.

YES MA'AM. NOW AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO SUE THE CITY OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO OR SUE ME.

YES. ROWE. THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENT? OKAY. OKAY.

HI, I'M PAULA SCHWARTZMAN, AND I LIVE AT 290 SALMON DRIVE NORTHEAST.

I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

ACROSS THE STREET FROM JUDY.

ANYWAY, I, I THOUGHT I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY CAN PUT SOME LIGHTS UP MAYBE INSIDE THERE, BUT EVEN A STREETLIGHT, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A STREETLIGHT ON THAT STREET AT ALL, AND I DON'T EVEN.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF SALMON DRIVE DOWN AT THE END OF THE BLOCK, BUT IT'S PRETTY DARK NEIGHBORHOOD, SO MAYBE LIGHTING WOULD HELP.

MAYBE IF WE COULD GET ONE OF THE POLICE PEOPLE TO DRIVE BY THERE PERIODICALLY.

IDEAS. I DON'T KNOW THAT.

I GUESS I'M SCARED BECAUSE I'M AFRAID THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, BUMS OR SOMETHING I'VE HEARD ABOUT.

COUCH BEING FOUND IN THERE AND DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHO MIGHT BE STAYING IN THERE, SO.

GOTCHA. OKAY. IT IS KIND OF SCARY.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

WE HAD GENTLEMEN IN THE BACK.

WERE YOU? NICK BLUTO AT 275 PELICAN DRIVE.

I'M ON THE CORNER.

I TOOK CARE OF IT FOR THREE YEARS, LIKE TWO YEARS AGO.

MAINTAIN THE MOWING AND AND MOST OF THE GARDENING.

BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE GARDENING IS THE.

THERE'S TWO OAK TREES THAT HAVE OVERTAKEN MOST OF THE LAND, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL, BUT.

AS YOU KNOW, A GARDEN NEEDS SUNLIGHT.

SO IF THOSE TREES ARE NOT COMPLETELY CUT BACK, THEN THE GARDENING IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT LIKE THESE OTHER FOLKS HAVE TALKED ABOUT, IT WOULD BE NICE JUST TO HAVE AN ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN WITH THEIR KIDS AND SET UP SOME BENCHES AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS.

ACTIVITIES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO MAKE IT A GARDEN, BECAUSE ALL THE ALL THE GARDENING STUFF IN THERE IS DESTROYED.

SO IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF MONEY TO REDO ALL THAT.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST SOLUTION.

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OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT.

ALL RIGHT. YEP. SO WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD NOW.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY FOR CLEANING IT UP IN THERE BECAUSE I WALKED IN THERE A FEW TIMES AND THAT WAS QUITE A PROJECT.

SO THANK YOU, ERIC AND YOUR TEAM.

I DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE YOU, BUT AND BUT I KNOW IT WAS A, IT WAS A LOT OF STUFF TO GET OUT OF THERE.

AND THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CEMENT BLOCKS.

I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND I KNOW TALKING TO MARK A BIT, THAT THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF WILDLIFE IN THERE, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GOPHER TORTOISES, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER, PROBABLY SOME PROTECTED WILDLIFE THAT IF WE WERE TO TRY TO GO FOR GRANTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I DIDN'T PERSONALLY SEE THE BURROWS, BUT I COMPLETELY TRUST THEY'RE BACK IN THERE SOMEWHERE.

I KNOW THESE FOLKS HAVE SEEN THEM BACK IN THERE, SO I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE IT IS A GORGEOUS AREA.

IT REMINDS ME A LOT OF TURKEY CREEK.

YEAH. ANY OTHER MEMBERS.

I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE COMING OUT AND SHOWING SUPPORT FOR THIS TOPIC.

I GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK HERE.

GLAD IT'S NOT FOR SALE.

GREEN SPACE COMMUNITY.

A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT PARKING OVERNIGHT SAFETY.

WHAT BEING WELL LIT.

IF IT IS GOING TO STAY TO BE A GARDEN, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME WORK WITH THE TREES.

AND A LOT OF A LOT OF SAFETY ASPECTS.

I KNOW THIS IS YOUR HOME OR IN THE AREA OF YOUR HOME.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO KEEP IN MIND, TOO.

BY A SHOW OF HANDS, MAYBE.

WOULD YOU ALL LIKE TO SEE IT? TO BE A COMMUNITY GARDEN? OR TO BE KIND OF LIKE THE PUBLIC? LIKE A PARK OR GREEN SPACE AREA? DO YOU THINK? GARDEN.

TWO FOUR, EIGHT FIVE AND GREEN SPACE LIKE A PARK OR DOG PARK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A GREEN SPACE SPACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND GATHER.

DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD GO FORWARD, AND THAT MIGHT BE AN EASY SOLUTION TO NOT HAVE TO HAVE A 500 1C3 OR A NONPROFIT.

YEAH. AND IF I MAY SO A COUPLE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING, AND IT WAS VERY HELPFUL LISTENING TO YOU ALL.

SO I APPRECIATE IT.

WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING NOW THAT IT'S CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE GET THROUGH THAT.

WE'RE PLANNING A LITTLE SITE VISIT WITH A COUPLE MORE MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM.

ACTUALLY, ERIC HAD A GREAT SUGGESTION.

WE HAVE TRACY WRIGHT ACTUALLY MANAGES THE TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY, SO SHE'S VERY, VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ON WILDLIFE AND YOU KNOW, NATIVE FLORIDA AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE HER COME WITH US AND WE WILL JUST SORT OF EVALUATE THE LOCATION.

BECAUSE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO DO, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GOPHER TORTOISES, IS I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO RELOCATE THEM OR DO ANYTHING.

SO IF IT'S JUST A IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMUNITY, AT LEAST YOU ALL REPRESENTING YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD GENERALLY WOULD BE OKAY WITH JUST A, NOT AN ACTIVE BUT A PASSIVE TYPE OF PARK. SPACE IS JUST GREEN, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINED A LITTLE BIT SO IT'S NOT GETTING ALL OVERRUN, BUT NOT REALLY THINGS THAT DRAW A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE WE WEREN'T WE DID NOT HAVE A PLAN CURRENTLY TO DEVELOP ANY MORE LIKE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, LIKE SMALLER PARKS.

JUST BECAUSE OF THE MAINTENANCE THAT, THAT REQUIRES JUST FOR YOUR OWN EVERYONE'S KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE LOOKING MORE AT LIKE, REGIONAL, LARGE SCALE PARKS ON, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF ACRES KIND OF THING.

BUT SINCE IT'S ALREADY BEEN TOUCHED HISTORICALLY, WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE.

AND WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND SOME SORT OF LETTER OF NOTIFICATION TO YOU ALL IN THE VICINITY, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION ON THE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DOING THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T DO THERE AND VANDALISM AND ALL THAT.

SO SOME THINGS I'VE NOTED FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENTS, WE'LL DEFINITELY TAKE CARE OF THAT.

AND WE'LL PROBABLY GO AHEAD AND TAKE DOWN THE, THE, THE BROKEN DOWN SHED AS WELL.

I JUST KNOW WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL DOING THAT BECAUSE OF THE GOPHER TORTOISES.

SO WE CAN'T JUST BRING IN A BULLDOZER AND TAKE IT DOWN.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT I GUESS, MORE STRATEGICALLY AND CAREFULLY.

ERIC KNOWS, SO I'LL DEFER TO HIM.

BUT WE'LL DO THAT. WE'LL ALSO GO AHEAD AND PUT NO PARKING SIGNS ON THERE, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DO THAT ON CERTAIN CITY PROPERTY, AND THAT'S AN EASY THING TO DO.

WE CAN WORK ON RIGHT AWAY.

YEAH. SO WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ALL.

BUT YEAH, I WOULD REITERATE WE'RE NOT SELLING THE PROPERTY.

IT WILL BE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREEN SPACE.

SO THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN.

YEAH. EITHER WAY. IF THERE'S A WAY THEY CAN MAKE IT CLEAR.

WILL YOU COME UP? COME UP TO MIKE.

YEAH. THERE WAS A WAY THAT MAYBE THEY COULD CLEAR THE FRONT OUT A LITTLE BIT WHERE WE CAN SEE BACK INTO IT BECAUSE IT'S OVERGROWN.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHY WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF THE VANDALISM.

AND WE THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE EVEN BEEN SOME DRUG ACTIVITY BACK THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S IT'S KIND OF IT'S GOT A BURM AND THEN IT'S IT'S KIND OF CLOSED OFF.

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YOU ONLY SEE THE ONE, THERE'S A TRELLIS, YOU KNOW, A PERGOLA THAT'S THERE.

BUT IF THAT FRONT WAS OPENED UP, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT LESS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING AND SHOWING SUPPORT TO A BIG INTEREST.

SO AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND SOUNDS LIKE IT'S ALREADY GOING TO GET DOWN TO BUSINESS.

SO THAT'S GOOD. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. WHAT? WHERE ARE YOU GOING? DO YOU HAVE DINNER? THERE YOU GO.

WILL YOU ALL BE SAFE? THANKS FOR COMING UP.

COMING IN. WOULD YOU ALL COME DOWN? ALL RIGHT, SO CONTINUING ON ANOTHER BUSINESS, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER TWO, HARDEN LANE POND.

BASIN 13 POND UPDATE.

TWO WAY. DON'T FORGET TO LEAVE YOUR ADDRESSES.

LEAVE YOUR ADDRESSES.

OKAY.

OKAY. NO. YOU'RE GOOD.

ALSO SO ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER OTHER BUSINESS.

HARDY LANE. POND.

BASIN 13. POND.

UPDATE. ERIC, DO YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF UPDATE WITH IT? NO. WHAT WE'VE BEEN I DID GET A LIST FROM THE THE ENGINEER THAT WORKED ON IT ORIGINALLY OF THE PLANTS THAT WERE ACTUALLY PLANTED ON IT.

I COULDN'T BEGIN TO SAY THE NAMES THAT HE GAVE ME.

SO I WROTE THEM DOWN, AND I GOT SOMEONE OUT.

I KNOW SOMEONE WHO DOES, AND I WORK.

I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO.

AND I WORKED ON GETTING THE PRICES FOR THE PLANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO WALK OVER THERE? I WAS LIKE, OR IF YOU WANT TO PASS IT RIGHT NOW.

AND WOULD THE PRICES? WOULD THAT BE CITY FUNDS? IS THERE A BUDGET FOR IT, OR WOULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN THAT THE.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED AS A PART OF OUR NPDES PERMIT.

STORMWATER FUNDS WOULD NEED TO PAY FOR THESE PLANTS.

IT IS, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, LESS THAN $1,000 FOR ALL THE PLANTS.

THE QUESTION REALLY IS HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PLANTED.

WILL THEY BE PLANTED BY CITY STAFF DURING NORMAL CITY WORK HOURS, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS INTERESTED IN MAKING AN EVENT? HOWEVER, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS AS WE STATED, A FINGER IN A POND.

THERE IS WILDLIFE, THERE IS WATER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF RISK REQUIREMENTS WILL BE HAD? I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE LOOKED INTO THAT AT ALL, BUT I DID WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT.

SO IS THERE, LIKE, WAIVERS TO SIGN IF I KNOW ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP THAT I'M WITH AND I KNOW A FEW ON THE BOARD ARE HERE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT GROUPS, IS THERE LIKE, IF WE WERE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, LET'S DO IT THIS DAY, WE GOT THE PLANTS, BECAUSE I THINK LAST TIME IT SAID IT WAS ONLY GOING TO BE A FEW HOURS OF LABOR THAT WOULD BE NEEDED DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE.

BUT THERE'S PROBABLY A WAIVER FOR THAT KIND OF RISK.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE VOLUNTEER WAIVER TYPE FORMS WE USE FOR DIFFERENT EVENTS.

SO YEAH, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO PUT THE TIME INTO IT.

AND THAT WAS, I THINK THE POINT CHRISTINE WAS MAKING LIKE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO IT EITHER WAY.

SO WE KNOW WE WANT TO REPLACE THE PLANTS.

IT'S GOOD. IT'S AN IMPORTANT STORMWATER PROJECT FOR OUR TEAM TO DO.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO DO IT.

BUT IF YOU ALL WANTED TO PARTICIPATE OR, YOU KNOW, DRUM UP INTEREST FROM THE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PLANT GROUPS OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO DOING IT AS A COMMUNITY TYPE PROJECT TOO. SO, OKAY.

AND IS THERE KIND OF A NOT A DEADLINE, BUT A TIME PERIOD THAT YOU THINK THE CITY THINKS THAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A VOLUNTEER EVENT? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WHEN IT'S BEST TO PLANT PLANTS AND ALLOW THEM TO GROW, SO I WOULD RELY ON THAT FOR YOU.

RIGHT NOW THE POND IS BEING MAINTAINED, THE AREA IS SAFE.

WE JUST NEED TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE, YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS.

YOU SEE FIT. OKAY.

IS THERE ANY SPECIFIC TIME PERIODS OF THOSE POINTS? WELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU WANT IT TO BE DRY WHEN YOU'RE PLANTING THIS FINGER AREA.

IS THERE AND IT'S PROBABLY DRY RIGHT NOW.

THEY WOULD NEED TO BE WATERED FOR THE FIRST, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL WEEKS THERE IN THERE.

IS THERE A WATER SOURCE NEARBY? I CAN DEFINITELY TAKE CARE OF THAT.

OKAY. WE HAVE WATER PUMPS AND YOU KNOW TANKS ON TRAILERS AND STUFF THAT WE CAN BRING AROUND, USE, OKAY, FOR CLEANING OUT PIPES

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THAT HAUL WATER. YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THIS IS A GREAT TIME OF YEAR, THOUGH.

RIGHT NOW YOU KNOW, GET IT IN BEFORE THE SUMMER WHEN IT GETS HOT.

AND I LIKE THAT THESE PLANTS ARE NOT THE ONES THAT WERE ON THAT DRAWING THE FAKAHATCHEE GRASS THAT I WAS KIND OF NOT EXCITED ABOUT LAST TIME.

SO TWO OF THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY FOR MARSHES WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE MORE WET THERE THAN NOT.

THIS ONE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.

I DON'T KNOW IF LYDIA IS THE ILEX CASSINE CASSINE.

IT'S A HOLLY NATIVE TO SOUTHEASTERN COAST OF NORTH AMERICA.

IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT BEING FOR VERY WET AREAS.

IT'S MOSTLY VERY ORNAMENTAL AND GROWS 30FT TALL.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW MAYBE HOW HOW WAS THAT SELECTED? OR IT WAS ON SOME PERMIT OR SOMETHING, OR.

NO, THAT'S JUST SO THE OTHER THAT'S THE ONLY HARDWOOD THAT'S ON THERE THAT HE SAID CAN GROW IN THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.

SO I PRINTED IT UP AND BROUGHT IT HERE.

OH. I MEAN IT.

YEAH, IT IT WAS NOT PLANTED ON THERE BEFORE, BUT IT WAS TALKED ABOUT BEING PLANTED ON THERE WITH THE OTHER ONES.

YEAH. THAT'S A IT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZE AT 30FT.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE WHEN IT GETS TO BE 30FT.

YEAH. SO MAYBE THAT'D BE THE MIDDLE, MIDDLE OF THE FINGER OR THE HIGHEST POINT.

STABILIZE IT. YEAH.

ONLY THE FEMALES HAVE BERRIES.

SO YOU'D NEED A MALE.

YOU HAVE TO PLANT MORE THAN ONE, IN OTHER WORDS.

AND HOPE YOU HAVE ONE OF EACH.

A MALE AND A FEMALE. WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T PURCHASED ANY YET.

SO I'M JUST I'M IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU FIND OUT THE SEX OF A PLANT AFTER IT'S 30FT TALL, AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE SPACE TO PLANT THE OTHER SEX. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AHEAD OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SPACE FOR TWO 30 FOOT TREES IF YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY BERRIES. YEAH, I, I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S TWO SPACES OUT THERE FOR A 30 FOOT TREE.

SO SO WE MIGHT PASS ON THAT ONE.

OKAY. OKAY.

DID YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT? SHE'S A SHE'S A SUPER GARDENER.

SUPER GARDENER, SUPER DUPER.

LYDIA BARBER, 1638 FORK TERRACE.

THAT'S A DAHOON. HOLLY.

SO WHAT I'D SUGGEST IS IF YOU GET ONE THAT ALREADY HAS BERRIES, THEN YOU SHOULD BE IN GOOD SHAPE.

AND IT SHOULD BE POLLINATED BY ANY KIND OF HOLLY THAT'S IN THE AREA.

SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A DAHOON.

THANK YOU. THE 30FT.

HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO PURCHASE OR TO GET THE.

PLANTS. AND WOULD YOU GO TO OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS NATIVE NURSERIES, PLEASE? WE? WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, GET THREE QUOTES AND DETERMINE WHO WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE FROM.

AND THEN WE WOULD PREPARE A PURCHASE ORDER AND THEN WE WOULD GET THE PLANTS.

BUT THAT'S ALL.

NEEDS TO BE SCHEDULED BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT PLANTS SITTING AROUND OUR YARD IN BUCKETS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO PLANT THEM RIGHT AWAY.

SO I CAN'T I CAN TELL YOU WE COULD DO IT WITHIN A MONTH.

BETWEEN THE RESEARCH AND GETTING THE QUOTES AND GETTING THE PURCHASE ORDER OPEN AND GETTING THE SCHEDULING DONE.

SO WE COULD REALISTICALLY DO THIS AT THE END OF MARCH OR THE BEGINNING OF APRIL.

AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE LIKE TEN MINIMUM, OR WHAT WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF PLANTS TO.

PROBABLY 400.

WHAT I CALCULATED WAS 200 OR BOTH 100, ABOUT 400.

BUT THERE'S SMALL PLANTS. SO LIKE A POST HOLE DIGGER, GET A CREW OF TEN, GO THROUGH A COUPLE HOURS.

YEAH, THEY'RE SMALL OR 20.

DO YOU THINK YOU COULD BRING TEN? FIND TEN PEOPLE? FIVE PEOPLE.

SO CAN WE MAYBE MAKE A MOTION? OR DO I GUARANTEE I COULD HAVE A GOOD CREW? AND IF SHE'S GUARANTEEING, HAVE A GOOD CREW TO DO IT.

YOU SAID THE APRIL DATE, AND THAT WOULD GIVE AMPLE TIME TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET THE PLANTS ON HAND, AND THEN WE CAN SPECIFY WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO ON A WEEKEND LIKE A SATURDAY? WE PROBABLY COULD I CAN LOOK INTO IT.

YEAH. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW THAT BRINGS MORE FLEXIBILITY.

AT LEAST FOR THE GROUP THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO BRING.

AND IF SO, THEN WE COULD MAYBE NAIL DOWN A.

LARGER TIME PERIOD, NOT LARGER, BUT LIKE GET CLOSER THE MONTH APRIL.

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HAVE THEM BY APRIL, LIKE YOU SAID.

AND THEN WE COULD PICK WHICH SATURDAY OR A SUNDAY EVENING OR SOMETHING SUNDAY AFTERNOON.

AND I KNOW IT'S Y'ALL'S TIME TOO, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO WORK ON THE WEEKEND AND STUFF.

SO I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.

I WORK TILL 530 SO IT SUNSET GOES DOWN AN HOUR AFTER THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I WAS THINKING A SATURDAY TO BE ABLE TO GET A HANDFUL OF VOLUNTEERS OUT.

CAN I JUST MAKE ONE SUGGESTION? THIS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS BEHIND A CURRENT HOME.

SO IF WE COULD PLAN ON MAYBE CARPOOLING OR LESS INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO USE A CITIZEN'S DRIVEWAY THAT'S ON A DRAINAGE RIGHT OF WAY, OKAY, TO GET TO THE POND.

SO JUST LIKE A COURTEOUS THING FOR THE CITIZEN THAT'S CURRENTLY OUT THERE.

OKAY. YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

SO WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO WE IF IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A DATE, WOULD WE SUPPLY THAT DAY TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND GET APPROVAL FROM THEM VIA EMAIL? DO WE HAVE TO MEET AGAIN? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO MEET AGAIN.

IF YOU ALL WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A PLAN FOR THAT, WE CAN TRY TO SETTLE ON THAT DATE, SEE IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE, SEE WHAT THE VOLUNTEER CONTINGENT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD REALLY BE THE THE DETERMINING FACTOR.

RIGHT? LIKE, CAN WE CAN WE DRUM UP ENOUGH INTEREST THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS COME TOGETHER ON A SATURDAY AND, AND PLANT 400 PLANTS.

WOULD IT WOULD IT THE APRIL DATE, WOULD THAT BE THE BEGINNING OF APRIL OR END? WELL, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE END OF OKAY.

THE NEXT MEETING IS ACTUALLY MARCH 27TH, SO WE COULD ACTUALLY MEET AGAIN.

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU NEED.

I WAS THINKING, IF IF IT TAKES ME A MONTH TO GET A PURCHASE ORDER AND WE'RE AT THE END OF FEBRUARY NOW, THEN WE COULD DO THIS BETWEEN THE END OF MARCH AND THE BEGINNING OF APRIL.

DOES ANYONE ON THE BOARD HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OF APRIL? THE SIXTH WOULD BE A SATURDAY, THE FIRST SATURDAY.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A WET BLANKET HERE, BUT I DO THINK IT MIGHT BE A CHALLENGE GETTING 400 PLANTS.

OKAY. PLANTS, PERIOD.

OR PLANTED? YEAH.

GETTING FINDING 200 OF EACH OF THESE.

SO. WELL, MAYBE SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHECK INTO THAT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR ALONG, BECAUSE, I MEAN, OUR LOCAL NURSERIES, I'M NOT SURE THEY HAVE LIKE 200 OF EACH OF THESE.

THE GROUP THAT STAFF WAS WORKING WITH IS CALLED WILD, WET AND WACKY FLORIDA NATIVE PLANTS.

AND THEY SAID THEY HAD THEY HAD THE CAPACITY TO GIVE US THE 200 OF.

THE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF 400 PLANTS.

AWESOME. OKAY, AT LEAST AS OF THIS, I RETRACT MY CONCERN.

IT'S A GOOD ONE, THOUGH. YEAH.

AND AND WE COULD JUST FOR THE SAKE OF SUNSHINE AND GETTING IT NAILED DOWN.

AND BECAUSE I THINK IT MIGHT BE A QUICK TURNAROUND IF WE WAIT TILL THE 27TH MEETING.

COULD WE PLAN ON THE SIXTH? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS OF THAT? AND IT'S WELL IN ADVANCE.

AND IF WE SEE THAT WE CAN GET THE GET THE PLANTS AND EVERYTHING GOING SMOOTHLY, THEN WE COULD RELEASE IT TO THE PUBLIC.

BUT ALSO KNOW THAT WE'LL BE TELLING OUR VOLUNTEERS AND SUCH, AND IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT BECAUSE THE PLANTS AREN'T COMING IN ON TIME OR SO WE COULD, BUT WE COULD GO AHEAD AND HAVE IT VOTED ON AND SET, KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT ASPECT.

JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MORNING TIME TYPE OF EVENT STILL OR ON SATURDAY.

YEAH, I WOULD SAY SATURDAY MORNING WOULD BE OKAY.

AND COULD WE TAKE LIKE A COUPLE DAYS BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT APRIL 6TH, RIGHT.

COULD WE LOOK AT MAYBE A 2 OR 3 OPTIONS JUST AS A SO WE HAVE SOME SOMETHING THAT GENERALLY WORKS FOR THE BOARD LIKE THE SIXTH, THE 13TH, THE 20TH.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING ON, YOU KNOW, ALL THE CITY RESPONSIBILITIES.

OKAY. OKAY.

I WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE TO 13TH.

I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN.

BUT IF THE.

HOW ABOUT THE 20TH? THE 20TH? I WOULD BE AVAILABLE THE 20TH, SIX, 20, 27.

AS LONG AS IT'S WELL IN ADVANCE.

I JUST KNOW I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN ON THAT 13TH.

OKAY. DON'T FORGET THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.

WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THE FINAL DATE YET FOR THAT, SO THAT'S TRUE.

YEAH. IN APRIL 27TH IS THE TURKEY CREEK DAY.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IF THAT'S A FACTOR.

OKAY. YES, IT COULD BE.

YEAH. SO WE SHOULD JUST GIVE THE 20TH AND THE THE SIXTH AS POTENTIAL FOR EVERYONE.

THE 20TH WOULD BE BETTER FOR ME.

THERE ARE A FEW. THERE ARE ACTUALLY THERE'S LIKE A TRASH BASH HAPPENING.

A FEW ORGANIZATIONS ARE DOING THAT WITHIN MELBOURNE AND PALM BAY, SO I'LL BE AT THAT.

BUT I MEAN THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID.

THAT'S THAT'S ON THE SIXTH.

OKAY. SO I MEAN, I SHOULD PROBABLY KNOW THAT.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

SO YEAH, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NARROWED DOWN TO THE 20TH THEN.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO CONFLICT WITH TRASH BASH EITHER.

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SO OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL TRY FOR THE 20TH.

THAT GIVES YOU TIME, CHRISTINE, TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

RIGHT. SO OKAY OKAY OKAY.

SO WE'LL PLAN ON THAT.

AND THEN DO WE NEED TO DO A VOTE OR.

I THINK THAT'D BE FINE.

WE'LL JUST LOCK THAT IN AND AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH YOU ALL FOR YOU KNOW GETTING YOUR VOLUNTEERS INTERESTED.

MAYBE WE CAN PUT TOGETHER, LIKE, A LITTLE, LITTLE FLIER OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO PUT IT OUT ON SOCIAL.

MAYBE. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, THOUGH.

YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IS THERE ANY PLACE NEARBY THAT PEOPLE COULD PARK AND WALK, OR IS IT NOT REALLY SET UP IN THAT WAY? I CAN'T VISUALIZE WHAT HARDEN LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.

NO, MA'AM. IT'S A DIRT ROAD.

AND AT SOME POINT, THE CITY STOPS MAINTAINING THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD, AND IT'S A PRIVATE ROAD.

YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE THE CITY DOES HAVE A DRAINAGE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'RE USING TO GET BACK THERE.

OKAY. BUT WE ALSO HAVE POWER BUSSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IF WE NEED TO PARK IT VETERANS VETERANS PARK AND BRING PEOPLE OUT THERE IF WE NEED IF I NEED TO.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE TO TALK ABOUT LOGISTICS ON THAT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE PARKING IN PEOPLE'S GRASS ALL UP AND DOWN THE ROAD OR WHATEVER.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

YEAH. JUST LOGISTICS WISE TOO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT IT ON ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND EVERYTHING, WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A SIGN UP ON EVENTBRITE BECAUSE YOU COULD END UP WITH LIKE 100 PEOPLE.

YEAH. AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT EITHER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I GUESS MAYBE, MAYBE THE BETTER PLAN IS WE'RE JUST SORT OF BRAINSTORMING HERE IS IF YOU ALL THINK YOU CAN GET SOME VOLUNTEERS, MAYBE WE'LL WE'LL JUST KIND OF REACH OUT TO YOU. WE'LL PICK A DATE.

WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU ON THE DATE.

AND JUST SAY BY THIS DATE, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY VOLUNTEERS YOU HAVE? AND THEN WE'LL SEE IF YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO MUSTER UP ENOUGH SUPPORT.

AND IT'S REALLY A GO.

SO WE'LL MAKE IT A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD EVENT.

PLUS FRIENDS. YES.

YEAH. AWESOME. WELL, DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THAT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION, BUT I CAN'T ATTEND ON THE 20TH.

MAKING ME SAD.

BUT I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MAKE THIS A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD EVENT AND SCHEDULE IT FOR A MOTION FOR APRIL 20TH.

DO I HEAR A SECOND? I SECOND IT.

SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.

AS THE MOTION WAS STATED ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SAME SIGN, AND I VOTE I AND THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

SO THEN WE'LL WE'LL GET AN EMAIL.

AWESOME. EXCITED.

NAIL IT DOWN.

COOL. SO.

OH YES. PLEASE.

AND THEN. SO NEXT ITEM THREE.

SUSTAINABILITY FAIR 2024 UPDATE.

ALL RIGHT. SO STAFF GAVE ME AN UPDATE ON THIS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I, I APOLOGIZE.

I'VE NOT BEEN WITH YOU AS AS I WAS BEFORE.

WHEN I, WHEN I TALKED TO STAFF, I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED TO FIND OUT WHERE WE HAD ENDED UP, WHICH IS WE HAVEN'T REALLY SIGNED UP VENDORS FOR OUR EVENTS.

I KNOW WHEN WE LAST.

WELL, WHEN I WAS LAST AT THE MEETINGS AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT, WE HAD DISCUSSED PROBABLY BACK IN THE FALL, I WOULD SAY SOMETIME WHEN WE WERE PICKING OUR DATE AND WE WERE LOCKING DOWN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THE EVENT, WHEN THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT DOING WAS, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE BOARD MEMBERS ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN INVITING.

I THINK WE CREATED A FLIER, BUT INVITING THE VENDORS TO COME OUT.

AND THAT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH STAFF WHO WOULD THEN HELP TO COORDINATE SOME OF THE PLANNING ON SITE.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T DONE MUCH OF THAT, IF ANY.

CHRISTINE, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON ANY OF THAT.

FOR THE 30TH DATE, WE HAVE THE RAIN BARRELS AND RIGHT, HE CAME TO US.

SO THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR MARCH 30TH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE FACED WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE.

I KNOW OUR FIRST SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, WE KIND OF THREW IT TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT LAST MINUTE PROBABLY, AND I THINK IT CAME OUT NICELY, BUT WE HAD A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. BUT WE ALSO HAD DONE HAD STAFF DO A LOT OF LEGWORK TO FIND THE VENDORS.

AND ALSO THAT WAS KIND OF LAST MINUTE.

BUT SO REALLY, THE QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU ALL IS, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SAY DOING THE FAIR EVERY YEAR IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO, BUT I'M ALSO A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT DOING AN EVENT THAT'S NOT.

HAS IT. WE HAVEN'T PUT IN THE WORK FOR IT YET.

SO ANYWAY, LET ME GET TO A COUPLE BOTTOM LINES.

SO FIRST OF ALL, IF WE HAVE THE DATE OF MARCH 30TH, WE DID LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL AVAILABILITY TO MOVE IT OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GIVE US A LITTLE MORE TIME AS LIKE OPTION NUMBER ONE, THE REAL, YOU KNOW, PUSH IT OUT.

SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY CHRISTINE REMINDED ME THE APRIL 13TH DATE THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO IT, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. AND IN A NEW VENUE AS WELL, WE'D HAVE TO RELOCATE IT.

RIGHT. SO.

BUT AT LEAST THERE'S A POTENTIAL THERE.

BUT THE BIG QUESTION WOULD BE BECAUSE I ALSO I ALSO HAVE A STAFFING ISSUE ON MY END WITH OUR RECREATION TEAM WHO NORMALLY HANDLES LIKE CITY EVENTS TO FIND VENDORS.

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TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE BIG PEOPLE THAT DO THAT KIND OF WORK.

THEY'VE BEEN IN AND OUT FOR VARIOUS PERSONAL REASONS, SO THEIR CAPACITY IS STRETCHED THIS TIME OF YEAR ANYWAY.

SO ALL THAT TO SAY, I'M SORT OF ASKING THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO TRY TO? I THINK WE'RE A MONTH AWAY, YOU KNOW, FROM THE 30TH, MORE OR LESS.

IF WE PUSH IT OUT TWO MORE WEEKS, THEN WE'D BE SIX WEEKS AWAY.

DO YOU ALL WANT TO, LIKE, MUSTER AND TRY TO, LIKE, WITHIN A WEEK OR SO? GET GET AS MANY VENDORS AS YOU CAN, SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN SIGNING UP.

SEE WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.

AND THEN SEE IF WE CAN THROW AN EVENT TOGETHER, BUT JUST MAYBE SHIFT IT OUT TO GIVE US AN EXTRA COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I KNOW WE DID CHECK WITH THE RAIN BARREL GROUP FROM BREVARD COUNTY, AND THEY ARE STILL AVAILABLE ON THE 30TH, BUT NOT ON THE 13TH, BUT NOT ON THE 13TH.

SO WE WOULD LOSE THE RAIN BARREL PART OF OUR OUR PLAN.

IF WE PARTNER WITH UTILITIES LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR FOR AN EVENT ON THE 13TH.

APPARENTLY THEY COULD STILL DO WHAT THEY DID LAST YEAR, WHICH IS.

YES, THEY HAVE ALREADY RESERVED, ACTUALLY MEETING EXCUSE ME, A MOVIE THE LORAX OR OR WALL-E.

SO IT WOULD BE THE VENDOR PORTION OF IT.

THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR PORTION OF IT WOULD BE PRIOR TO THE ALREADY PLANNED MOVIE IN THE PARK.

SO WE WOULD HAVE IT AT THE FRED POPPIE PARK, AND WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE AN AUDIENCE COMING, PEOPLE COMING TO THAT EVENT.

WHAT DAY WAS THAT? THE 13TH OF APRIL.

ALL RIGHT. AND BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A PLANNED MOVIE, THERE WOULD ALREADY BE FOOD TRUCKS SCHEDULED TO COME ETC..

I MEAN, I, I, I WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE I COULDN'T GO, BUT I THINK HONESTLY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE BEST ROUTE JUST PERSONALLY BECAUSE KIDS WILL BE THERE, THERE'LL BE MORE AUDIENCE, THERE'S MORE PEOPLE CAN LEARN ABOUT IT.

THE ONE. THE THING WITH THE VENDORS I KNOW WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LAW OF US KIND OF COORDINATING WITH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO TO CALL AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SO I THOUGHT THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A DOCUMENT MADE TO WHERE WE COULD SOMEHOW COORDINATE OR STILL ABIDE BY SUNSHINE LAW.

AND I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, THAT NONE OF LIKE, NOTHING CAME TOGETHER WITH IT, OR I THINK THAT KIND OF MADE A HINDER, NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT JUST MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT. IS THERE A LIST FROM LAST YEAR THAT MAYBE WE COULD SPLIT UP AND CALL? OR MAYBE THERE'S LIKE A LEAD PERSON FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WERE HERE LAST YEAR THAT WE COULD RUN THROUGH? WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT. WE'LL GET YOU THE LIST.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE, CHRISTINE, BUT I KNOW WE HAVE THAT FROM LAST YEAR, SO.

YEAH. AND I THINK THAT I THINK IT WAS A COMMUNICATION BREAKDOWN, MAYBE IN PART TO MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HITTING THIS MORE REGULARLY AT THE MEETINGS WITH YOU ALL AND CHECKING IN ON HOW IS PROGRESS GOING.

BUT REALLY THAT THAT'S THE KEY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE THE MOVIE IN THE PARK, WE CAN GET YOU ALL THE LIST OF VENDORS AND WE CAN JUST EMAIL THAT OUT TO YOU.

IT'S ONLY A SUNSHINE LAW ISSUE IF YOU START TO COMMUNICATE AMONGST YOURSELVES.

SO ALL WE WOULD NEED TO DO IS HAVE YOU ALL DO THE LEGWORK.

YOU KNOW, WE'LL DIVIDE THE LIST IN SOME WAY THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT THROUGH EMAIL OR SOMETHING.

AND THEN AND ANY OTHER VENDORS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, WE WELCOME YOU TO CALL THEM.

BUT THE POINT WOULD THEN BE TO FUNNEL THEM TO THE STAFF THAT WOULD GO PUT THEM THROUGH THE PROPER, FILL OUT THE FORMS WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO GET REGISTERED AND ALL THAT.

AND CHRISTINE, DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? I DO ACTUALLY HAVE THE LIST OF VENDORS IN MY HAND.

PERFECT. AS FAR AS THE REST OF IT, I KNOW THAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT HAVE GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO ASSIST US.

THEY HAD EXPERIENCE IN DOING THIS LAST YEAR, AND WE WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, WHICH IS WHICH IS HOW WE ENDED UP WITH THE UTILITY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE MOVIE IN THE PARK AND THE PARKS AND REC INVOLVEMENT WITH THE ACTUAL PARK PART OF IT.

SO I CAN PROVIDE THE TO ALL OF YOU THE VENDOR LIST.

AND THEN IF YOU ALL WANT TO REPLY ALL AND SAY WHO YOU'RE GOING TO CONTACT I CAN GET WHATEVER FORMS I NEED FROM THE PARKS AND FACILITIES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT ALL THE.

I WOULD JUST CORRECT ONE THING.

REPLY ALL. I WOULD NOT LIKE US TO DO THAT.

SO WHAT WE CAN DO, IF YOU'D LIKE, IS COUNT UP THE BOARD MEMBERS, DIVIDE THE LIST.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YOU TAKE, THE FIRST FIVE YOU TAKE THE NEXT FIVE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

I'M I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

OKAY. CERTAINLY. WE'LL JUST ASSIGN IT OUT THAT WAY.

BUT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL PROVIDE THEM IS THE UPDATED FLIER FOR THE DATE AND THEN THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO THOSE VENDORS SO THEY KNOW

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WHAT TO DO TO SIGN UP AND STUFF.

BUT WE CAN EMAIL ALL THAT TO YOU ALL, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF AGREE ON A DATE THAT WE'LL TRY TO DO THAT BY, SO WE'LL KNOW HOW MUCH INTEREST WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE VENDORS.

SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF ANY OF THEM HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, THEY NEED TO ONLY ONLY ASK ME.

ONLY ASK STAFF. YES, ONLY ASK STAFF.

JUST DON'T EMAIL YOUR FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.

BOARD MEMBERS. GOTCHA. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION MAY BE MOSTLY ON MY PART WAS WHEN I THINK OF VENDORS, I THINK THAT IT REQUIRES A MONETARY COMMITMENT, LIKE A BOUNCE HOUSE OR SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO PAY FOR, AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMIT THAT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

I'M I WILL DOUBLE CHECK, BUT I AM LIKE 99% SURE THAT WE WAIVED ANY KIND OF VENDOR REGISTRATION FEES FOR THIS EVENT LAST YEAR SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE VENDORS COME.

SO I WOULD SAY WE WOULD DO THE SAME THING AGAIN.

IT'S NOT LIKE A TYPICAL CITY EVENT WHERE WE MIGHT BE HAVING YOU PAY, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, TO HAVE A SPOT.

SO THIS WOULD BE WE'D INVITE THEM AND THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TO COME.

YOU KNOW, AND THEY COULD COME.

AND WHETHER THEY'RE EDUCATIONAL OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SELLING THEIR NATIVE PLANTS OR, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY PRODUCTS OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.

YEAH. WE WOULD DO THAT WITHOUT THEM HAVING TO PAY.

SO THERE WAS A FEE LAST YEAR, BUT IT WAS LIKE $10.

WE DID SOMETHING, BUT WE CAN JUST WAVE.

IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. YEAH, YEAH.

ALSO REGARDING THE BOUNCE HOUSE, THE KONA ICE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE ITEMS WERE PAID FOR BY ANOTHER DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR, AND WE WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THE FOOD TRUCKS AND THE KONA ICE THERE, BUT WE WON'T.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE FUNDING TO MAKE IT FREE TO THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDING.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEMSELVES FOR IT.

AND WE WOULD I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE BOUNCE HOUSE.

I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S A PART OF THE MOVIES IN THE PARK.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO INTEGRATE IT INTO SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEING FUNDED.

OKAY. SO, SO MY MY CONCERN IS I GUESS WE WOULD NEED AN UPDATED FLIER.

WE'RE JUST ASSESSING INTEREST WITH THE VENDORS.

WE'RE NOT COMMITTING TO APRIL 13TH YET.

NO. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASK YOU ALL IF YOU WANT TO DECIDE ON THAT TONIGHT THAT WE'D COMMIT.

AND THE VENDORS WE HAVE WOULD BE THE VENDORS WE HAVE.

SO IF WE GET YOU KNOW, FIVE OR WE GET NONE OR WE GET 20, WE WOULD WORK IT OUT.

YEAH. MY CONCERN IS WE'RE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON PUBLICITY WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT ALL FINALIZED TO LIKE TOMORROW'S SPREAD THE WORD.

AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN APRIL.

I KNOW BECAUSE IT'S QUOTE SPRING FLORIDA.

THAT'S TRUE. SO THERE'S A LOT OF EVENTS GOING ON.

I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IT WON'T BE IT WON'T BE AS WONDERFUL AS WE WOULD LIKE.

LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.

I, I HAD BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS ALSO BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF, YOU KNOW, MOMENTUM THAT WE WE HAD MOMENTUM A YEAR AGO AND THEN IT KIND OF AFTER THE EVENT, IT KIND OF WE TOOK A BREAK.

I, I'VE BEEN THINKING THAT MAYBE WE GIVE THIS YEAR A PASS AND PUT EFFORT INTO NEXT YEAR, BUT MAYBE WE MAKE OUR PRESENCE KNOWN AT OTHER EVENTS BY BEING A VENDOR AT THAT EVENT.

SEE IF WE CAN GET A WAIVER OF FEE AND SET UP A TABLE JUST TO LET OUR PRESENCE BE KNOWN AND JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, TAKE TURNS MANNING A TABLE AT EVENTS, EVEN IF WE'RE EACH THERE FOR AN HOUR, YOU KNOW? A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EVENTS AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING, THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON, LIKE THE NEMO GARDEN AND THE NATIVE PLANT.

YEAH, YEAH.

SO THAT WAS THAT WAS MY APPROACH.

I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH TRYING TO GLOM ON TO THE MOVIE NIGHT IF THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO.

BUT IT MIGHT BE CONFUSING FOR FAMILIES AND.

THEY MIGHT BE LIKE, WELL, THIS ISN'T WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING, BUT YEAH, SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.

ANY WOULD WE BE OPPOSED TO MAYBE MOVING IT EVEN TO LATER IN THE YEAR, LIKE AND GIVE IT TIME SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, JUST GET START TO GET A GO OUT IN TABLE OR WHATEVER LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED.

ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT LAST YEAR IS IT GOT HOT.

WE HAD IT IN THE AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COOLER, BUT IT GOT HOT QUICKLY.

IT WAS APRIL OR MARCH LAST YEAR AND IT WAS.

IT WAS MARCH OR APRIL. I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH MONTH, BUT IT WAS DEFINITELY WAS HOT.

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YEAH. I WAS JUST THINKING LIKE WINTER TIME, LIKE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TOO LATE OR JUST WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR, BUT YEAH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD IN WINTER, WE'D GET OUR, OUR WINTER VISITORS, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE SEASONALLY HERE, THE SEASONAL FAMILIES.

YEAH. ANY THOUGHTS? IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONE BREWING DATE OF LAST YEAR, SO WE HAVE THE SWAG.

I STILL HAVE MINE. OR DOESN'T HAVE DATA.

BUT I WOULD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN.

I DON'T WANT TO NOT DO IT THIS YEAR.

I WOULD BE FINE WITH MOVING IT FURTHER OUT TO WHERE THERE'S MORE TIME TO DO IT.

I REALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING IT WITH THE UTILITIES OR PUBLIC WORKS OR UTILITY.

WHO PUTS ON THE MOVIE UTILITIES.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY GOING TO DRAW KIDS.

THAT'S WHO WE WANT TO TEACH ABOUT SUSTAINABLE EFFORTS AND GET THEM EXCITED TO GET THEIR PARENTS EXCITED AND SO ON.

IS THERE ANOTHER A LATER MOVIE THAT MAYBE WE COULD TAG ON TO, AND THEN WE'D HAVE MORE TIME TO.

BUT BUT THEN WE'RE GETTING INTO THE HEAT.

BUT IF IT'S IN THE EVENING IT WOULDN'T BE AS HOT.

YEAH. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION AT THIS TIME.

NO, I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, BUT I THINK IF YOU JUST IF YOU WANT TO AVOID, LIKE, REALLY GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, FLORIDA'S VERSION OF SUMMER, RIGHT.

WHICH STARTS WAY BEFORE JUNE.

YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS ARE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO TRY IT, WE ALREADY KNOW THE MOVIE'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED.

I MEAN, I HEAR DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS, SO IT'S ULTIMATELY YOUR DECISION.

BUT IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DO A, YOU KNOW, A HALF DAY AFTERNOON TYPE OF SUSTAINABILITY FAIR UTILITIES WILL HELP US OUT A LOT.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET SHIRTS MADE AGAIN.

I SHOULD TELL BROOKLYN THAT YOU KNOW, AND JUST SEE WHAT YOU ALL CAN DO.

HELPING US WITH THE LIST, THINKING OF OTHER CONTACTS YOU HAVE, EVEN IF IT'S JUST INFORMATIONAL BOOTH SET UP.

KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, REBECCA.

BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR GROUPS LIKE BREVARD INDIAN RIVER LAGOON COALITION, LIKE, I KNOW, BECAUSE I WAS JUST TALKING TO CRAIG WALLACE NOT TOO LONG AGO, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR THEM TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE RENEWAL THAT'S GOING TO COME UP BEFORE THE VOTERS FOR THE SAVE OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOONS LAGOON FUNDING.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY TRYING TO GET OUT THERE AND ATTEND EVENTS.

SO THAT'S A GROUP THAT WASN'T AT OUR LAST YEAR'S SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, BUT I WOULD CALL THEM RIGHT UP PERSONALLY AND I WOULD SAY, WILL YOU PLEASE COME? AND IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE, THEY'LL SEND SOMEONE.

THANK YOU. SO WE CAN HAVE A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL INFORMATIONAL TYPE GROUPS TO, YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IS IF WE YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR POINT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S LAST MINUTE AND THE SCRAMBLE IS NOT MY FAVORITE THING TO DO AT ALL.

BUT IF YOU FIGURE WE HAVE SIX WEEKS AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME AND WE DECIDE AND WE COMMIT AS A GROUP THAT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK WE'RE ALL GOING TO CONTACT ALL THESE DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST.

AND THE OTHERS WE KNOW OF, WE THINK OF THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE, SEE IF THEY'RE EVEN AVAILABLE.

YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IF WE FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, 80% OF THEM ARE ALL BOOKED AT OTHER EVENTS, THEN WE'LL KIND OF HAVE AN ANSWER THERE PRETTY QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE CAN SORT OF YOU'LL SEND THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US WHEN YOU DO YOUR LEGWORK, IF YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO DO IT.

THAT WAY WE CAN COLLECT THAT INFORMATION.

JUST REPORT BACK TO YOU. HEY, THE SURVEY SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TEN VENDORS OR WE HAVE NONE, AND THEN WE'LL KNOW THE EVENT CAN'T GO ON WITH NO VENDORS OR WE CAN JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN. ANYWAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

I MEAN, LAST YEAR WE EVEN HAD FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T INVOLVED, WE EVEN HAD A SLATE OF SPEAKERS SIGNED UP TO TO DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS, IF YOU RECALL ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND LIKE GROWING YOUR OWN FOOD IN YOUR BACKYARD, I THINK WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS.

RIGHT? SO WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO PUT THAT TOGETHER EITHER, UNLESS SOMEONE STUMBLES ACROSS SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK WE CAN AT LEAST TRY IF YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO, AND SAY, HEY, IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, LET'S SET OURSELVES AN AGGRESSIVE DEADLINE.

LET'S ALL DO OUR PART AND CALL THESE VENDORS.

IF WE GET THEM, GREAT.

IF THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED, WE'LL KNOW QUICKLY WE CAN DO THE EVENT OR NOT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. JUST AS A SUGGESTION.

YEAH. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO WITH THE IN THAT EMAIL WITH DIVVYING UP THE LIST? THE FLIER WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE LIKE A SOME KIND OF, LIKE TEMPLATE OF LIKE WE'RE GOING TO EMAIL IT TO THEM JUST SO EVERYONE IT'S ALL KIND OF THE SAME MESSAGE BEING SENT. YEAH.

LIKE, SO WHAT I WOULD DO, CHRISTINE, IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO ATTACH THE FLIER, WHICH TELLS A LOT JUST RIGHT THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY ATTACH THE THE VENDOR REGISTRATION TYPE FORM.

AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU IN THE NARRATIVE, WE'RE GOING TO ATTACH THE LIST.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHO GETS WHICH GROUP OF.

I KEEP SAYING FIVE. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.

WE'LL TELL YOU WHO GETS WHAT GROUP OF VENDORS TO.

WE'LL ASSIGN THEM TO EACH ONE OF YOU.

AND THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE A LITTLE BLURB, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I'M A MEMBER OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

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WE CAN WRITE THAT UP VERY EASILY.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

WE'RE INTERESTED IN HAVING YOU AS A VENDOR AT OUR UPCOMING EVENTS THIS DATE AND TIME.

ET CETERA. ET CETERA. ARE YOU INTERESTED? NO COST, THAT KIND OF THING.

WE CAN WRITE ALL THAT UP FOR YOU.

AND I JUST THINK THAT MAKE IT ALL THE SAME MESSAGE GOING OUT TO EVERYBODY.

BECAUSE MY MY THOUGHTS IS THAT.

GIVE ME A CALL, SAY, HEY, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THIS? HERE'S THE DATE. I'M GOING TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

AND THEY WOULD HAVE KIND OF THE SAME MESSAGE THAT EVERYONE WOULD GET ALL THE VENDORS.

AND THEN THAT WAY MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A FORWARDING ASPECT WHERE WE COULD FORWARD THAT MESSAGE ON TO THE PERSON TO WHERE YOU'RE STILL ATTACHED TO IT, AND THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO OR WHOEVER THE STAFF MEMBER IS, AND THEY COULD KNOW WHO THE STAFF ARE TO COMMUNICATE OR KIND OF SEE THAT.

JUST A THOUGHT, BUT JUST KEEPING IT ALL THE SAME MESSAGING GOING ON.

BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO DO MY PART ON THE, THE CALLS AND EMAILS.

WOULD IT BE BE THERE ON THE 13TH? BUT I STILL THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE MOVIE THEATER OR THE, THE MOVIE IN THE PARK AND ALL THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME WE WOULD START IF WE WOULD START A LITTLE EARLIER.

KIDS COULD COME GET THERE EARLIER, KIND OF GO THROUGH THE BOOTHS, HAVE THE MOVIE, THAT KIND OF THING.

AND IF. IF ANYONE ELSE IS IN AGREEANCE, WE COULD HAVE A MOTION AND WE COULD.

WE COULD DO THAT. I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT ABOUT PARTNERING WITHIN THE CITY ITSELF, IT DOES SEEM. SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUE.

NOW. AND WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, IT WAS RIGHT AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL HAD PASSED THE MANDATORY HOOKUP FOR SEWER AND WATER.

AND MY IDEA AND OUR SLOGAN IS TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

SO I THINK WE CAN DO A LOT OF THIS IN HOUSE.

I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT DEAL WITH THAT ISSUE.

ONE OF THE THINGS CITIZENS ARE SAYING IS.

THEY ALL HAVE SWALES.

AND THE CITY ISN'T CAN'T ALWAYS CUT EVERYBODY'S SWALES IN THE TIME THEY WANT TO DONE.

IT HAS TO BE ON A SCHEDULE.

BUT I HAD THOUGHT, WHY NOT DO A DEMONSTRATION ON HOW PEOPLE CAN MAINTAIN SWALES AND PLANTS THAT WOULD BE REPLACE PIPES AND LET THAT KIND OF COME FROM THE CITY AGAIN.

ERIC, YOU WOULD BE PERFECT.

AND HAVE THAT BE A FOCAL POINT? AND I DO THINGS THAT WOULD GET YOUR SUGGESTIONS TO SUZANNE AND THE COUNCILS.

HOW CAN WE? DO SOMETHING NOW, EITHER PROVIDE INFORMATION NUMBER ONE, OR HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE CITY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GOT QUESTIONS.

WHEN, HOW FAST AND.

IS IT ME AND HOW MUCH? SO I THINK IF WE JUST PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, IT WOULD BE.

YEAH, WE CAN LOOK AT STAFF'S CAPACITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE ON A SATURDAY TO DO THAT, BUT TO HAVE A LITTLE EDUCATIONAL TABLES, NOT A NOT A BAD IDEA.

I COULD ALSO, AS YOU'RE SAYING, THAT I WAS JUST THINKING THERE'S PROBABLY A COUPLE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY, MAY HAVE SORT OF A PUBLIC FACING NEED TO HAVE A TABLE AT CERTAIN EVENTS. THEY DO THAT FROM TIME TO TIME.

EVEN HR SOMETIMES WILL COME OUT AND PROMOTE JOBS THAT ARE OPEN.

SO WE'LL WE'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE STAFF CAPACITY.

BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE SECONDARY TO DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE SUSTAINABILITY TYPE VENDORS.

RIGHT. THAT YOU KNOW CAN.

TELL OTHER STORIES BEYOND JUST THE CITY, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A BIGGER DRAW RIGHT? THAN JUST US, I'M SURE.

THERE WILL BE OTHER CHANGES TO THE FLIER THAN THE DATE.

WILL BE REMOVING SOME ITEMS, SUCH AS THE SCAVENGER HUNT AND THE BOUNCE HOUSE.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REQUIREMENT WILL BE IN ORDER TO GET APPROVAL ON THE FLIER BEFORE THE BEFORE IT'S RELEASED, BECAUSE IT WOULD NEED TO BE RELEASED.

ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

CORRECT. WELL, I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER ON IT TOMORROW, SEE WHAT EDITS WE NEED TO MAKE.

BROOKLYN MADE IT FOR US.

OKAY, SO WE'LL CHECK HER SCHEDULE TO JUST GET IT DONE FOR US AS REASONABLY QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

MY MY INTERNAL GOAL WOULD JUST BE TO TRY TO GET THAT OUT TO YOU ALL EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK AND CALL THAT OUR WHENEVER IT STARTS.

THAT'S OUR PLANNING WEEK.

AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS LIKE MAYBE IT'S A MONDAY TO A MONDAY OR WHATEVER IT'LL BE.

I REALIZE WE CAN'T TURN EVERYTHING AROUND THAT FAST, BUT WE'LL TRY OUR BEST.

I THINK WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WITH HER, BUT THAT WON'T NEED A VOTE, RIGHT? IF WE'RE JUST. NO, NO, THAT'S JUST OUR INTERNAL.

LIKE WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO DO SOME FEW LITTLE TWEAKS TO THAT, MAKE IT MAKE IT USABLE FOR YOU ALL SO WE CAN GET THAT TO YOU.

AND YOU CAN DO YOUR, YOUR PART OF THE PLANNING AND SEE WHERE WE SEE WHERE WE GO.

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SO. OKAY. YEAH.

LYDIA BARBER.

DID YOU KNOW THAT MELBOURNE BOTANICAL FEST HAS MOVED TO APRIL 13TH? SHOOT. WHAT TIME IS THE MOVIE IN THE PARK? THAT'S TRUE. IT'S IN THE EVENING.

YEAH. THE BOTANICAL FEST IS USUALLY IN THE DAYTIME MORNING, I THINK.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE.

WE'RE THE SAME, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICS WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I THINK IT WOULD BE PULLING A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC SOME OF THE SAME, BUT I THINK A LOT OF DIFFERENT COULD BE OH YEAH, THE VENDORS.

YEAH. SO WHEN WE HAD OUR, OUR MEETING WITH THE WITH BROOKLYN AND, AND THEM THEY BASICALLY WERE STATING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO START ABOUT 530 THE MOVIE BECAUSE THE MOVIE WOULD ACTUALLY START ABOUT AROUND THAT TIME FRAME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE ABOUT 745 AT NIGHT. OKAY, SO THE BOTANICAL FEST GOES 8 TO 4.

OKAY. BUT IT PROBABLY WOULD.

THE VENDOR WISE. IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A LOT OF SAME PEOPLE.

YEAH. SO WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT VENDORS AT LIKE FOUR OR SOMETHING.

SO THREE, FOUR I'M NOT SURE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT AND THEN COME TO ANOTHER ONE FOR THE EVENING.

I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S WHAT I'M QUESTION IF WE FEED THEM.

OH BOY. THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE RAIN BARREL PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE.

YEAH YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.

YEAH. THEY'RE THERE EVERY YEAR.

SO SHOULD WE.

TABLE UNTIL THERE'S ANOTHER.

SEE WHEN THE NEXT MAYBE A MOVIE OR A MOVIE AND THE PARK IS GOING.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN STILL PARTNER WITH PUBLIC WORKS KNOWING HOW FREQUENTLY THEY DO IT.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE VERY SOON LIKE THEY DO ONCE, MAYBE TWICE A YEAR.

SO I THINK IT'S LIKE IT WOULD EITHER BE LIKE WAY LATE IN THE SUMMER OR INTO THE FALL.

THE ONES THAT UTILITIES SPONSORS I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO I DON'T THINK WE COULD PLAN FOR THAT AS A STRATEGY.

YEAH. WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE PUBLICITY FOR THE MOVIE THING THAT.

I MEAN, CAN WE CHANGE THAT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE EARLIER, OR IS IT ALREADY OUT? NO, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE YOU, WE WE USUALLY JUST PUT MOVIES IN THE PARK, INFORMATION OUT, LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE CITY WEBSITE, ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, BUT IT'S A LITTLE TOO EARLY FOR US TO EVEN HAVE DONE SOCIAL MEDIA.

IT MIGHT BE ON OUR CALENDAR ALREADY, OUR CITY CALENDAR, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY.

BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE ANY PUSH YET.

SO IT CAN BECOME A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR MOVIE IN THE PARK.

YOU KNOW, MARKETING MESSAGE AND NEW FLIER THAT CAN ALL BE PUT TOGETHER, BUT IT HASN'T GONE OUT YET.

WELL, I'M WILLING TO CALL TEN VENDORS THIS WEEK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS FOR THE 13TH.

THAT'S GREAT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.

OKAY. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE.

EACH TRY TO CALL HOW MANY OF OUR VENDORS THIS DIVIDES UP INTO THIS WEEK, AND IDEALLY BY THE END OF THE WEEK BE ABLE TO ASSESS HOW VIABLE APRIL 13TH IS.

YEAH. JUST CLARIFYING.

WE'LL SEND YOU THE INFORMATION TO TO PREPARE YOU FOR THAT.

WE MIGHT NOT GET IT TO YOU TILL LIKE EARLY PART OF NEXT WEEK.

SO JUST IT'LL COME AS FAST AS WE CAN GET IT TO YOU.

BUT THIS IS SETTING THE DATE FOR THE 13TH, CORRECT? NOT. ARE WE FILLING IT OUT OR ARE WE SETTING THE DATE? I THINK WE PUT A MOTION.

RIGHT. YOU PUT A MOTION UP? YEAH. SO I SECOND THE MOTION.

OKAY. DISCUSSION ON THE THE MOTION WAS IN THAT.

DID YOU YOU SPECIFIED THAT IT WOULD BE ON THE 13TH OR WE'RE JUST FILLING IT OUT.

THAT WOULD BE ON IT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YES. I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE VENDOR LIST.

MANY OF THESE CONTACTS ARE OUTDATED.

YEAH, WE HAVE NOT UPDATED, SO I JUST WANTED TO LET US KNOW IN ADVANCE.

YOU HAVE TO BE CREATIVE AND RELY ON THE CITY AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

AND. AND EACH OTHER.

IF WE RUN INTO A PROBLEM.

WITH CONTACT.

GET THE WORD OUT AMONGST US THROUGH THE THROUGH USING THE CONTACT PERSON SO WE CAN UPDATE THIS LIST AND GET GOOD CONTACT.

WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT IF WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE THE UPDATES, WE SHOULD SEND THEM TO THE CITY AND HAVE A NEW LIST GENERATED.

AND IF WE HAVE, WE CAN HAVE NAMES ADDED TO IT OF, OF THINGS, ORGANIZATIONS OR PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD THINK, BUSINESSES THAT WE SHOULD THINK SHOULD BE CONTACTED.

WE COULD HAVE IT PUT TO THE CITY LIST.

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AND THAT WAY THERE WON'T BE DUPLICATION OF CONTACTS.

THAT WAS THE WHOLE WORRY.

CONCERN LAST TIME WAS DUPLICATION OF CONTACTS AND PEOPLE BEING IRRITATED BY MULTIPLE REQUESTS.

AND AS I SEND IN THE REGISTRATION, WE'LL HAVE THE UPDATED.

SO IF WE FIND OUT WHO THE CORRECT ONE IS, WHETHER WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE RESEARCH ONLINE, OR THAT THE PERSON ON THE CONTACT LIST CAN SAY, OH, IT'S THIS PERSON, I'LL SEND YOU THE NUMBER. WHENEVER THEY SEND IN THE REGISTRATION, WE'LL HAVE THE UPDATED CONTACT, BUT WE CAN ALSO REPLY BACK TO OUR STAFF MEMBER WITH THE UPDATED CONTACT.

PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY THERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT PROMOTION.

HOW CAN WE JUST REMIND KNOWLEDGE? HOW CAN WE OR HOW ARE WE ALLOWED TO PROMOTE OUTSIDE OF HERE JUST OURSELVES? OH, YOU ALL CAN DO ALL KINDS OF PROMOTION, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE, REALLY EXCITING, LIKE YOU'RE GOING ON THE NEWS, MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT BUT, YEAH, LIKE, YOU COULD TAKE THE FLIER PLACES, PUT IT PLACES, SHARE IT WITH FRIENDS, EMAIL IT.

YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT OUT STUFF ON FACEBOOK, YOU CAN SHARE IT ALL ALONG.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH. AND THAT'S ACTUALLY REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE A LOT OF CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

YEAH. AND AND I DON'T KNOW IF, IF PART OF THE QUESTION WAS WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE ABOUT BUSINESS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE WONDERING OF HOW WE CAN PROMOTE.

THAT'S OKAY. YEAH.

SO ANY ONCE WE END THIS MEETING WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT INTERNALLY ABOUT THE THE FAIR AT ALL.

BUT WE CAN SEND OUT ON OUR OWN OR TALK TO STAFF, THAT KIND OF STUFF.

SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF NO OTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL CALL IT TO A VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN, AND I VOTE IN FAVOR.

SO MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY TO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR ON THE 13TH.

AND STAFF WILL SEND AN UPDATED FLIER CONTACTS FOR EACH OF US TO CONTACT, AND WE'LL PUT THAT TOGETHER AND GET THE INFORMATION BACK TO STAFF AND THEN.

MISS SUSAN, IF YOU'RE DONE, WILL YOU PASS THAT LIST BACK TO.

THAT'S GOLD.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE INTO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS AN UPDATE ON THE NATIVE GARDEN.

OKAY. WE HAVE A PURCHASE REQUISITION IN THE SYSTEM.

IT SHOULD GET PUSHED THROUGH TOMORROW.

HOPEFULLY, WE'LL HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY TWO PURCHASE ORDERS.

ONE IS FOR THE SOLARIZATION AND ONE IS FOR THE PLANTS.

WE'VE SEPARATED THEM OUT BECAUSE THE SOLARIZATION ACTUALLY REQUIRES A SMALL PROJECTS AGREEMENT BECAUSE THERE IS OUTSIDE CONSTRUCTION PERSONNEL ON CITY PROPERTIES THAT REQUIRES A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF AGREEMENT WHEREAS THE PLANTS ARE MATERIALS.

SO WE CAN JUST GET THOSE DELIVERED.

SO ONCE THE PURCHASE ORDER IS PROVIDED TO ME, I AM GOING TO FORWARD IT TO MISS HIGGINS FOR SCHEDULING PURPOSES.

AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, MISS HIGGINS IS GOING TO SCHEDULE WITH THE VENDOR TO DO THE SOLARIZATION, AND THE VENDOR IS GOING TO LET US KNOW.

MISS HIGGINS WILL LET US KNOW WHEN THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

AND I UNDERSTAND IT'S A TWO MONTH PROCESS.

SO WE'RE DURING THAT TWO MONTH PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WHICH I BELIEVE MISS SHERMAN WILL BE ABLE TO SIGN ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

AND WE'LL BE READY FOR YOUR VOLUNTEERS ONCE THE THE.

AREA HAS BEEN DEE DEE DEE GRASSED.

YEP. SO HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US TO PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE GOT THIS MONEY FROM FPL AND CONRADINA.

YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT AND ALL ALL INVOICES I WOULD LIKE YOU TO REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THE ITEMS THAT WERE BEING INVOICED FOR ANY THE FIRST INVOICE I'M GOING TO GIVE TO YOU TO MAKE PAYMENT ON.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, ONCE YOUR GRANT FUNDING IS DONE, THEN THE CITY WILL MAKE ALL OTHER PAYMENTS THAT WAY.

IT'S JUST A CLEANER.

YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE MONEY IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY KIND OF TRANSFER OF FUNDS TO THE CITY.

OH, BUT THE INVOICE WILL COME THROUGH YOU.

YES, MA'AM. I'LL GET THE INVOICE AND I'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU.

OKAY. AND THEN I'LL GET A NEW INVOICE WITH ANY BALANCE LEFT ON IT.

AND THAT WILL BE PAID BY THE CITY.

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OKAY. BECAUSE I HAD TALKED TO TIM AND ANNA ABOUT DOING MULTIPLE INVOICES, BUT THEY'RE ALL COMING TO YOU, SO THEY'RE ALL COMING TO YOU, AND THEN YOU'LL SEND ME THE ONES TO PAY.

I DON'T NEED TO GET ANY INVOICES FROM TIM AND ANNA.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO COME.

CORRECT? CORRECT. YOU CAN SEND THEM DIRECTLY TO THE CITY.

OKAY. AND WE WILL FORWARD THE ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE SOLARIZATION.

AND I BELIEVE THAT IS JUST ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT YOU HAVE IN GRANT FUNDING.

I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT LEFT ON THAT INVOICE AFTER YOU'VE MADE PAYMENT, IN WHICH CASE I WILL ASK THEM TO SEND ME AN UPDATED STATEMENT OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN PAID AND WHAT WE OWE.

OKAY, SO I'LL GO BY THERE TOMORROW AND SEE WHAT THEIR CALENDAR LOOKS LIKE FOR BEING ABLE TO GET US ON THERE FOR THE SOLARIZATION. I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR OUT THEY'RE WORKING NOW.

BUT I CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT FOR SURE.

OKAY. AND THEN HAS THE HAS THE SIGN DEPARTMENT MADE ANY PROGRESS ON OUR SIGNAGE? I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'VE ACTUALLY STARTED FABRICATING THE SIGNS, BUT I HAVE FORWARDED ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO OUR SIGN DEPARTMENT, AND I WILL CHECK WITH THEM TOMORROW AND UPDATE YOU ON THAT.

OKAY? OKAY.

GREAT. I SAW SOME GORGEOUS SIGNS.

I GUESS THEY WERE ALL TURKEY CREEK, THOUGH.

DO Y'ALL DO THE TURKEY CREEK SIGNS TOO, OR THAT IS SOMEBODY ELSE? WAS THAT ON THE TRAIL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. WITH LIKE THE MAPS THAT THAT HAVE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE LIKE A GPS MAP ON THEM WITH ALL THE TRAILS.

I'D HAVE TO CHECK WITH TRACY OR SOMEONE OVER THERE TO KNOW SOMETHING'S A SPECIAL ORDER.

BUT OUR SIGN SHOP HAS A LOT OF NEWER TOOLS, SO THEY CAN DO THINGS WITH A LOT OF COLOR.

AND, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, THOUGH.

YEAH, THEY LOOK VERY NICE.

SO I WAS HOPEFUL.

OKAY. AND THEN THE MOU WILL FOLLOW IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY. AWESOME.

BECAUSE YEAH WE WANT THAT IN PLACE FOR IN ORDER TO SCHEDULE THE VOLUNTEERS.

ABSOLUTELY. TO GET THEM GOING.

ALL RIGHT. I KNOW THAT'S WHAT LYDIA WAS HERE FOR TOO.

YOU FEELING? YES.

WE CAN GET GOING ON THIS THING.

OKAY. WELL.

THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU.

I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A LOT OF HARD WORK TO GET IT TO THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING NEW AND DIFFERENT.

SO. SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSION ON THE NATIVE GARDEN? OKAY. THERE WE GO.

AND FOR ALL THE MOVING PARTS AND MOVING PEOPLE WHO HAVE PUT THEM ALL TOGETHER.

YEAH. AND THEN LAST ITEM FOR TONIGHT.

UPCOMING MEETINGS OR EVENTS OF INTEREST.

INFORMATIONAL POLLINATOR FAIR, THE SUNDAY NANCE PARK AND MELBOURNE BEACH THAT I KNOW LYDIA IS GOING TO BE THERE AND THE CONRADINA CHAPTER IS GOING TO BE THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN FOR FAMILIES.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ONE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY CUTE.

OF COURSE, WE MENTIONED THE BOTANICAL FESTIVAL, AND I'M LOOKING AT OUR LIST HERE IN THE NEWSLETTER.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR ME.

WE'VE GOT A COUPLE WORKDAYS COMING UP AT ERNA NIXON.

IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN HELPING REMOVE INVASIVE PLANTS.

OKAY. AND THE FLORIDA I KNOW IF OUR IF KEVIN WAS HERE, HE'D TALK ABOUT THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING SEMINAR ON MARCH 23RD AT THE MELBOURNE AUDITORIUM.

AND I'LL GET OUR SUSTAINABILITY FAIR DATE CHANGED IN THE NEWSLETTER AS WELL.

SO ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY UPDATES? YES. I HAVE A FEW UPDATES.

ONE. IS THAT THE.

MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL IS CELEBRATING THEIR 20TH BIRTHDAY, MARCH 19TH.

SO 2024.

THAT'S A TUESDAY AT THE LAGOON HOUSE, WHICH IS ON US ONE.

EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO.

IT'S AN I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

DOES DOES PALM BAY DOES THE CITY OF PALM BAY OWN THAT THAT LAND.

SO SHOULD SOMEBODY BROUGHT THIS UP TO ME THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD SHOULD REALLY, REALLY BE GOING TO THAT.

EVENT. YES, TO ALL OF THE ABOVE.

OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY OWNING THAT, OR IS THAT A PARK?

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IS IT? YEAH, I CAN BRIEFLY COVER.

YEAH. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A VERY LONG LEASE WITH MARINE RESOURCES COUNCIL THE BUILDING AND THE LAND THAT IS NORTH AND SOUTH OF IT IS ALL OWNED BY THE CITY.

A LOT OF IT WAS ACQUIRED BY DIFFERENT GRANTS OVER THE YEARS.

BUT YEAH, THEY THEY LEASE THAT BUILDING FROM US.

I KNOW I'LL BE AT THAT EVENT ON THE 19TH FOR THE THE 20 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

AND WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR USUALLY.

SO, YEAH, WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY YOU ALL GET THEIR EMAILS, THEY PUT OUT A LOT OF INFORMATION REGULARLY.

SO THAT TELLS YOU A DIFFERENT EVENTS THEY'RE DOING, WHICH I THINK IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT IDEA IF YOU CAN JOIN IN ON SOME OF THOSE.

BUT YEAH, WE'RE ACTUALLY CURRENTLY JUST BY WAY OF A SIDE NOTE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM BECAUSE WE HAD THE THE WIND AND RAIN EVENTS LAST YEAR.

SOME OF THE SHORELINE THERE DEFINITELY WAS ERODED PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON SOME OF THE DESIGN FOR THE, THE, THE RESTABILIZATION, I GUESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY TO SAY IT, THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN THERE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PROJECTS WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THEM ON.

AND THEY DO THEY HAVE SOME PROJECTS.

THERE'S LIKE THERE'S FIT STUDENTS WHO ARE CONNECTED WITH MRC.

THERE'S AT LEAST ONE THAT HAS AN EXPERIMENT THAT'S GOING ON THAT IS IN THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY REDO THE SHORELINE.

SO, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T FALL IN OVER TIME.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH HER TO HAVE HER PERMITS CHANGED SO THAT IT'S FURTHER NORTH OF THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

BUT THERE'S A LOT OF NEAT THINGS THEY DO OUT THERE.

SO YEAH, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME TO THAT EVENT AND WE CAN SEND IT TO YOU IF YOU NEED IT, BUT IT'D BE VERY EDUCATIONAL AND I THINK ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I'M GOING TO GUESS IT'S.

I DO NOT IT'S NOT ON HERE.

BUT MY HUNCH WOULD BE PROBABLY ALL DAY, WOULDN'T YOU THINK? 20TH. LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT REAL QUICK.

20TH BIRTHDAY.

WHILE. SUZANNE'S LOOKING THAT UP.

I'D LIKE TO I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD TO HAVE A PRESENCE OF US AS A PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, TO ATTEND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND TO BE VISIBLE FOR THEM AS THEY ARE FOR US IN MANY WAYS.

THERE WAS A WORKSHOP ON VULNERABILITY ANALYSIS AND RESILIENCY BEST PRACTICES, AND WE WERE INVITED AS THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO ATTEND.

I ATTENDED IN.

CHRISTINE SULLIVAN, OUR STAFF REPRESENTATIVE HERE ALSO ATTENDED AND GAVE INPUT.

THE I WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THERE IS A BREVARD BREVARD SUSTAINABLE WORKING GROUP, WHICH IS A ONGOING FOR MANY YEARS NOW COMING TOGETHER OF GROUPS AND PEOPLE AND ANYBODY THAT IS INTERESTED IN THE AREA CAN ATTEND.

BUT IT'S A GOOD WAY TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND TO AND TO LEARN ABOUT THEM, AS WELL AS TELL THEM ABOUT US AND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I WANT TO USE THEM AS ONE OF THE WAYS TO DISSEMINATE INFORMATION ON THE APRIL 13TH SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.

BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE AS A GROUP, THE MORE WE CAN ATTEND AND IDENTIFY OURSELVES OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY LAST THING, AND THAT IS WE STILL HAVE ONE VACANCY.

ON THIS BOARD AND I'M LOOKING AT THE ONE, AND I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW BOARD PEOPLE TO KEEP ASKING AND KEEP INVITING.

THIS IS A VERY EASY POSITION TO FILL BECAUSE IT JUST HAS TO GO BEFORE DONNY FELIX.

THE APPLICATION GETS PRESENTED TO COUNCILMAN FELIX AND IF HE APPROVES, WHICH USUALLY UPON OUR RECOMMENDATION HE WOULD.

THEY ARE ANNOUNCED AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY ARE JOINING US IMMEDIATELY.

SO THIS IS A GOOD TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, WELL I THINK IT COMES TO AN END.

I WANT TO GIVE A BIG THANK YOU TO STAFF.

I KNOW THERE'S A LONG MEETING A LOT THAT'S BEEN COVERED.

I THINK A LOT OF DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TODAY.

AND I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE BEEN TASKED WITH A LOT, TOO, SO I THANK YOU ALL IN ADVANCE.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL Y'ALL HAVE DONE.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK AT THE MEETING.

BUT YEAH, SO THANK YOU ALL.

AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE EMAILS AND GETTING TO WORK SOME GOOD THINGS IN STORE.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 756 NON-APPLE TIME.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.