Mar 07, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

CARRY ON, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. SIR. THE SECOND ITEM IS TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM FOR ITEM 11 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHICH IS THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST BY SUNSHINE PETRO, INC.

ALSO, A REVISED LAND EXCHANGE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN ADDED TO ITEM ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

AND LASTLY, THAT'S NOT ON YOUR SCRIPT, SIR, IS A REQUEST BY THE TWO CO-SPONSORSHIP GROUPS TO SEE IF THEIR ITEMS COULD BE MOVED UP FURTHER IN THE AGENDA.

THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON NEW BUSINESS.

OKAY, I ALSO JUST COUNCIL.

I HAVE ALSO BEEN IT'S ALSO BEEN REQUESTED THAT ITEM 11 BE MOVED UP AS WELL.

SO IF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THE NEW BUSINESS ITEMS, I THINK IT WOULD BE RESPECTFUL FOR US TO HONOR ALL THREE REQUESTS.

SO THAT BEING SAID, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN PLACING IT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

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OR WRITE OFF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I SHOULD SAY RIGHT AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THE FIRST SESSIONS OF PUBLIC AFTER PRESENTATION, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO I'LL NEED A MOTION FOR ALL THREE.

SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. SO JUST SO THAT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE WILL DISCUSS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

NEW BUSINESS. ITEM ONE.

NEW BUSINESS. ITEM TWO.

AND PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 11.

IS THAT. IS THAT CLEAR? GO AHEAD. THAT'S NEW. NEW BUSINESS TWO AND THREE.

OH, AS YOU WERE. NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM TWO.

NEW BUSINESS. ITEM THREE.

ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NOTHING FURTHER SIR.

OKAY, AGAIN, I WANT TO REASSURE EVERYONE.

IF YOU'RE HERE FOR ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE, WE WILL DISCUSS THIS IN APRIL, OUR APRIL 4TH MEETING.

WE'RE NOW ON TO PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

AND I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO CALL UP KEN GREEN AND MARY GREEN.

ARE THEY HERE? MARY GREEN.

I DON'T SEE HER IN THE AUDIENCE.

MAYOR, I DON'T SEE KEN OR KEN IS NOT HERE BECAUSE HE PASSED AWAY.

BUT I DON'T SEE MARY GREEN.

I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS ON ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING.

I, I TOTALLY CONSIDERED AND I'M.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE'LL CARRY THIS ON.

MADAM CLERK, WE'LL CARRY THIS ON TO OUR NEXT MEETING.

OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO SET THAT MEETING? SET IT AT A AGENDA WHERE YOU CAN CONFIRM.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

YES. GREEN WILL BE HERE.

YES. SHE TOLD ME SHE WAS GOING TO BE HERE, BUT SHE COULDN'T GET OFF WORK.

PROBABLY. ALL RIGHT.

SHE'S RUNNING LATE. MAYBE WE CAN CONSIDER IF.

SHOULD SHE COME IN? WELL, IF SHE COMES IN, WE COULD DEFINITELY MOVE THINGS AROUND.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER SET ANOTHER TIME.

NOT SPECIFIC TO WHEN.

WHEN YOU NEEDED.

BUT WHEN SHE CAN MAKE IT, I WILL, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. SO NOW WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS.

IT'S IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

I KNOW YOU LIKE THE WAY I SAID THAT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL A BIT FROM IRELAND, YOU KNOW.

IS KEITH REYNOLDS HERE? NO, SIR. YOU'RE HERE.

COME ON UP HERE.

SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

YOU GUYS CAN SMILE.

IT'S A GREAT DAY IN PALM BAY.

COME ON UP, MR. MAYOR. OH. THANK YOU.

OH, BRIAN.

YES, SIR. BRIAN MCCANN, BRIAN MCCANN.

WE'RE ALL FROM IRELAND, YOU KNOW.

TOP OF THE TOP OF THE EVENING.

COME ON UP HERE. MAKE ME LOOK SHORTER THAN WHAT I AM, BROTHER.

RIGHT. IT'S IRISH-AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS BY 1776, NEARLY 300,000 IRISH NATIONALS HAD IMMIGRATED TO THE AMERICAN COLONIES AND PLAYED A CRUCIAL ROLE IN AMERICA'S WAR FOR INDEPENDENCE.

AND WHEREAS FIVE SIGNERS OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WERE OF IRISH DESCENT, AND THREE SIGNERS WERE IRISH BORN.

BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

AND WHEREAS 22 PRESIDENTS HAVE PROUDLY PROCLAIMED THAT IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE.

AND WHEREAS IN 1792, IRISH BORN GENERAL JAMES HOBAN PROVIDED THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND SERVED AS ONE OF THE SUPERVISING ARCHITECTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR CAPITOL.

AND WHEREAS IRISH BORN COMMODORE JOHN BARRY WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2002 AS THE FIRST FLAG OFFICER OF THE UNITED STATES NAVY.

WHAT ABOUT THAT MASTER CHIEF? WHEREAS COMMODORE JOHN BARRY FOUGHT THE LAST SEA BATTLE OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION OFF THE COAST OF FLORIDA, AND WHEREAS IN 1813, CAPTAIN OLIVER PERRY, AN IRISH AMERICAN, ACHIEVED A MAJOR NAVAL VICTORY IN THE BATTLE OF LAKE ERIE.

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AND WHEREAS IN 1942, THE FIVE SULLIVAN BROTHERS MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM DURING THE NAVAL BATTLE OF GUADALCANAL.

AND LATER HAD THE DESTROYER USS SULLIVAN COMMISSIONED IN THEIR MEMORY.

AND WHEREAS THE IRISH FIRST CAME TO THE SPANISH LA FLORIDA IN THE 1500S, FIRST AS MISSIONARIES AND MERCENARY SOLDIERS, AND THEN PLANTERS, TRADERS, BUSINESSMEN, DOCTORS, AND ADMINISTRATORS, AND WHEREAS THREE OF THE SPANISH GOVERNORS OF LA FLORIDA WERE ACTUALLY IRISH MILITARY OFFICERS.

I KNOW YOU LOVE THE WAY I'M ROLLING MY EYES.

WHEREAS FATHER RICHARD ARTHUR, AN IRISH BORN PRIEST FROM LIMERICK WHO WAS APPOINTED PARISH PRIEST FOR SAINT AUGUSTINE IN 1597 AS A JUDGE OF LA FLORIDA, ESTABLISHED THE FIRST PUBLIC SCHOOL IN AMERICA AND OPENED IT FOR BOYS AND GIRLS OF ALL RACES.

AND WHEREAS ANDREW JACKSON, WHOSE FAMILY CAME FROM COUNTRY, FROM COUNTRY OR COUNTY, ATRIUM SERVED AS FLORIDA'S MILITARY GOVERNOR FOLLOWING ITS ACQUISITION BY THE UNITED STATES.

AND WHEREAS IRISH AMERICANS SINCE AMERICA'S INCEPTION HAVE PROVIDED AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP AND SERVICE TO THIS NATION'S POLITICAL, BUSINESS AND RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT.

AND WHEREAS IT IS FITTING AND PROPER TO CELEBRATE CELEBRATE SUCH RICH CULTURAL HERITAGE AND THE MANY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF IRISH AMERICANS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THAT THE MONTH OF MARCH 2024 AS IRISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO RECOGNIZE THE MANY VALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE OF OUR IRISH AMERICANS TO THIS COUNTRY.

AND WITNESS WHEREOF I SET MY RIGHT HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF MARCH, 2024. CONGRATULATIONS, BRIAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. APPRECIATE IT.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU ALL. AS YOU CAN SEE BY WHAT THE MAYOR PROUDLY SAID, THAT IRISH AMERICANS HAVE CONTRIBUTED A LOT TO THIS NATION AND ESPECIALLY HERE IN OUR IN OUR STATE OF FLORIDA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU AT OUR PARADE SEPTEMBER 16TH.

IT'LL BE 9:00 IN THE MORNING, DOWNTOWN MELBOURNE, IT'LL END THIS YEAR IN FRONT OF THE POST OFFICE.

SO COME OUT, COME ONE, COME ALL.

HAVE A GREAT TIME.

GOD BLESS AND MAY THE ROAD RISE TO MEET YOU ALL.

I LOVE THAT. MR. MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO STICK AROUND AGAIN.

OKAY, I. PICTURES FROM LAST YEAR.

OKAY, FANTASTIC. SO COME ON OVER.

I THINK WE GOT TO GET THE REST OF THE TEAM.

SO LET'S. THERE YOU GO. IS THAT GOOD? A GOOD ISLAND MAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

YEAH. WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT SATURDAY.

YES, SIR. I'LL SEE YOU THERE 8:00 IN THE MORNING.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. 800 HOURS? YES, SIR. WE'RE ALL FROM IRELAND, YOU KNOW.

SO OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS PROCUREMENT MONTH, AND WE'RE TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE A CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER THAT I'M TRULY PROUD OF.

RIGHT. THIS YOUNG MAN PLAYED IN THE MAJOR LEAGUES.

HE'S A BASEBALL PLAYER, AND I'M PROUD THAT HE'S CELEBRATING HIS ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY WITH US.

IT JUST FLEW BY GEORGE BARBER, COME ON UP.

NOW DOESN'T HE LOOK LIKE HE COULD STILL HIT THAT FASTBALL? COME ON UP HERE.

WHERE'S THE REST OF THE TEAM? YEAH. GET THE TEAM UP HERE.

OH, THEY'RE TRYING TO SIT DOWN ON YOU, GEORGE.

THEY COME AND THEY COME. AWESOME.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR.

OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SAY IT, I GET SO ENCOURAGED.

I GET SO MOTIVATED.

SO LET ME TRY THAT AGAIN.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED.

BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT WHEREAS PUBLIC PROCUREMENT ORGANIZATIONS ARE COMMITTED TO THE HIGHEST IDEALS OF HONOR AND INTEGRITY, TO MERIT THE RESPECT AND CONFIDENCE OF THEIR

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GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC WHOM THEY SERVE, ENSURING THE PRUDENT USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

AND WHEREAS, PUBLIC PROCUREMENT IS DILIGENTLY COMMITTED TO THE PURSUIT OF EFFICIENCIES AND EFFECTIVENESS IN THE DELIVERY OF GOODS AND SERVICES, EXECUTING AND IMPLEMENTING CONTRACTS, DEVELOPING FORECASTS AND PROCUREMENT STRATEGIES, AND CULTIVATING WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH SUPPLIERS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY PROVIDES AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS, WHERE ALL ORGANIZATIONS ARE AFFORDED AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE FOR BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS THE PRACTICES, SUPPORTS AND PRACTICES THE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF ACCOUNTABILITY, OF ETHICS, OF IMPARTIALITY, PROFESSIONALISM PROFESSIONALISM, SERVICE AND TRANSPARENCY AND FUNDAMENTAL TENETS OF THE PUBLIC PROCUREMENT PROFESSION.

AND WHEREAS, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENTAL PURCHASING HAS PROCLAIMED THE MONTH OF MARCH AS THE PROCUREMENT MONTH TO FURTHER EXPAND THE AWARENESS OF THE PROCUREMENT PROFESSIONALS ROLE TO GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, TO THE PUBLIC, BUSINESSES AND CORPORATE LEADERS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF SAID AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MARCH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS ARE PROCUREMENT MONTH AND ENCOURAGE ALL MY CITIZENS, ALL OUR CITIZENS, TO JOIN THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND RECOGNIZING THE ROLE OF THE PROCUREMENT AND CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PROFESSION WITHIN BUSINESS, INDUSTRY AND GOVERNMENT.

NOW, IN WITNESS HEREOF, I SET MY RIGHT HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS SEVENTH DAY OF 2024.

CONGRATULATIONS, GEORGE.

MAJOR LEAGUE BARBER.

COME ON, COME ON, BOY, CONGRATULATIONS.

DO. EXCELLENT JOB AT THAT, BY THE WAY.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS.

SO JUST IN HONOR OF PROCUREMENT, I WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO RECOGNIZE MY TEAM, BUT ALSO SOME IMPORTANT INDIVIDUALS TO THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT.

AND FIRST AND FOREMOST OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, JULIET MOSCONI.

SHE'S MADE MY JOB INCREDIBLY EASY AND DIFFICULT AT THE SAME TIME.

SHE SET A STANDARD.

BUT FORTUNATELY, I'M.

I'M EXCITED TO UPHOLD THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR SUPPORT AND ALL OF US STANDING UP HERE.

WE WOULDN'T BE HERE AND RATHER DIRECTLY AND DIRECTLY IF IT HAD MEANT FOR YOU.

SO SO THANK YOU.

A COUPLE THINGS TO OUR CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE SHERMAN.

AS THE MAYOR SAID, I PLAYED FOR A BUNCH OF MLB TEAMS. I'VE BEEN ON WINNING CHAMPIONSHIP TEAMS SERVING UNDER DIFFERENT MAYORS.

AND SUZANNE'S LEADERSHIP IS SECOND TO NONE.

YEAH. SO I JUST WANT TO.

JUST THE THE WAY THAT YOU LISTEN, THE WAY YOU SUPPORT FOR THE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T SUPPORT, ALLOWING US TO KEEP OUR DIGNITY IN THE PROCESS.

I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED ANYTHING LIKE IT.

SO ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM, WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THAT'S FOSTER. AND TO THE GENTLEMEN THAT ARE BEHIND ME AND NEXT TO ME FOR EVERY AGENDA ITEM, YOU APPROVE FOR THE ONES THAT YOU PULL AND DISCUSS WE APPRECIATE IT.

WE KNOW NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE HAPPENS WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT.

SO WE THANK YOU GUYS.

AND LASTLY, TO TO THE TEAM.

WHAT I LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW IS THAT THEY'RE ALL GREAT AT THEIR JOB, BUT TRULY, I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH EVEN BETTER PEOPLE.

AND THEY GIVE THEIR BEST EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T FEEL THEIR BEST.

THEY THEY DON'T LEAVE ANYTHING LEFT IN THE TANK.

SO TO MY TEAM, I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I INTRODUCE THEM REAL QUICK.

SO OUR PROCUREMENT MANAGER, NICK CANJAR.

ALL RIGHT, NICK WE HAVE OUR PROCUREMENT AGENT THREE, SUSAN ZIEGLER.

ANOTHER PROCUREMENT AGENT THREE DEBBIE FEINGOLD.

OUR PROCUREMENT AGENT ONE SELDA VASQUEZ.

MCMAHEN. AND OUR PROCUREMENT AGENT ONE, KELLY GUTIERREZ.

KELLY. AND LASTLY, OUR ADMIN ASSISTANT, GRACE KELLY.

AND WE HAVE ONE MORE TEAM MEMBER THAT'S NOT HERE.

SHE'S A HEARTBEAT TO OUR DEPARTMENT.

BUNNY HALL.

IF YOU'RE WATCHING, WE LOVE YOU.

WE'RE PRAYING FOR YOU. WISH YOU WERE HERE WITH US.

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I KNOW THAT WAS LONG WINDED.

SORRY. HEY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS, IN BASEBALL TERMS, JULIET MOSCONI IS A SWITCH HITTER.

SHE BATS BOTH LEFT HANDED AND RIGHT HANDED.

YES. OKAY, OKAY.

COOL, COOL.

HEY. COME CLOSER.

ACT LIKE YOU. LIKE YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

WAIT, WAIT. I'M SORRY. ONE MORE QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. PLEASE DO THAT.

GO THAT WAY. GO.

SUZANNE, CAN YOU POKE YOUR HEAD IN THERE? I ABSOLUTELY, YES, MA'AM.

ISN'T THAT GREAT? I'M SORRY.

OKAY. ARE WE READY? GIRL. WE'RE GOOD.

YOU GOT IT.

YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU GUYS.

CONGRATS. THAT'S ALL I GOT YOU.

I GOT YOU. HI.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD NIGHT.

OKAY, GENTLEMEN, WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS, MADAM SHERMAN.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THIS FIRST PRESENTATION IS AN UPDATE ON THE MALABAR ROAD WIDENING PDA STUDY.

WE HAVE TRAVIS HILL, WHO IS WITH KITTLESON AND ASSOCIATES, TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION.

TRAVIS WILL ALSO BE DOING THE SECOND PRESENTATION AS WELL.

SO WE'LL SEE HIM FOR BOTH.

MY NAME IS TRAVIS HILLS WITH KITTLESON ASSOCIATES.

YOUR AGENDA SAYS JACK FREEMAN.

SO I'M GOING TO POINT ALL COMMENTS AND FOLLOW UP TO HIM, AND HE CAN ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS.

SO ALL RIGHT.

SO A LITTLE BIT ON THE MALABAR ROAD PDA STUDY.

THIS IS A LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM PROJECT.

BASICALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT IT'S USING FEDERAL FUNDS.

IT'S ADMINISTERED BY YOU ALL, THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BUT WE AREN'T WE ARE GOING THROUGH FDOT FOR OUR APPROVAL PROCESS.

SO THEY'RE VERY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN ALL OF OUR DOCUMENT REVIEW AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET ALL THE APPROVALS WE NEED TO GET THE PROJECT COMPLETE.

SO THE STUDY, I THINK AS MOST OF US KNOW, WE'RE GOING FROM SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY DOWN TO MINTON ROAD.

SO IT'S A 2 TO 4 LANE WIDENING PROJECT.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SPECIFICS AS WE GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE SLIDES.

THE PURPOSE AND NEED.

LET ME GO TO MY SHEET UP HERE.

SO THE PURPOSE OF THE NEED FOR THE PROJECT IS TO EVALUATE THE NEED FOR CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS.

LIKE I MENTIONED THAT 2 TO 4 LANE WIDENING, IN ADDITION TO MULTIMODAL FEATURES AND ADDRESSING SAFETY ISSUES ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

THE PROJECT IS NEEDED TO RESOLVE ISSUES RELATED TO DEMAND.

LIKE I MENTIONED, OUR FUTURE CAPACITY SAFETY.

THERE WERE OVER 600 CRASHES IN THE FIVE YEARS THAT WE LOOKED AT.

NO FATALITIES, BUT WE DID HAVE 181 INJURY CRASHES MULTIMODAL ENHANCEMENT.

SO THERE ARE LIMITED SIDEWALKS OUT THERE TODAY.

SO LOOKING TO ENHANCE THAT CONNECTIVITY FOR PEDS AND BIKES OUT THERE AND THEN ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO OUR TRANSIT STOPS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

WHAT IS.

SORRY. AND THEN SYSTEM LINKAGE.

SO ENHANCING ACCESS TO THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY TO THE WEST.

SO A LITTLE BIT ON OUR DAILY TRAFFIC ALONG THE CORRIDOR IN THE FUTURE.

SO TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 7000 TO UPWARDS OF 20,000 ADT AS WE GO ALONG THE CORRIDOR ADT ANNUAL AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC.

WHAT WE SEE IN THAT FUTURE 2050 CONDITION IS THAT TRAFFIC BEING SOMEWHERE IN KIND OF THE, THE MID-TEENS IN THE MID TEENS, SO ABOUT 16,000 ON THE WEST UP TO 21 AND 28,000 AS WE GO FURTHER TO THE EAST.

SO I APOLOGIZE. I THINK THERE'S A TIME ON THE SLIDE WHICH IS CAUSING IT TO ADVANCE.

SO KEEP KEEP TRACK OF THAT.

SO LOOKING AT THE NO BUILD LEVEL OF SERVICE.

SO NO BUILD WOULD BE IF YOU KEPT IT AS TWO LANES AND YOU PROJECTED OUT INTO THE FUTURE, AS YOU SEE UP HERE, LOTS OF REDS AND YELLOWS.

SO LEVEL SERVICE E LEVEL SERVICE F KIND OF LIKE IN GRADE SCHOOLS.

LOVERS, LOVERS A IS GREAT.

LEVEL SERVICE F NOT SO GREAT.

SO AS YOU SEE, THE SEGMENTS ALONG THE ROAD START FAILING AS WE GET MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

SO MOVING INTO WHAT THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE TYPICAL SECTION LOOKS LIKE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FOUR LANE ROADWAY, AS I MENTIONED, TWO 11 FOOT LANES ON EACH IN EACH DIRECTION, 22 FOOT WIDE MEDIAN, AND THEN THOSE PED AND BIKE FACILITIES, AS YOU SEE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND THEN A TEN FOOT SHARED USE PATH ON THE NORTH SIDE OF

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THE ROAD, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH OUR SPEED LIMIT POSTED, SPEED LIMIT BEING 45 MILES AN HOUR, WE'RE PULLING THE BIKES OFF THE ROAD AND WANTING THEM TO USE THE SIDEWALK SO WE REDUCE THAT CONFLICT.

THAT WAS GENERALLY ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

WE DO HAVE ONE SPECIFIC LOCATION WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO RELOCATE THE C20 CANAL ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROAD.

SO BASICALLY KIND OF PUSH IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE NORTH.

YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT KIND OF BLUE AREA THE WATER IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IN THE GRAPHIC.

IT WOULDN'T BE THAT HIGH IN REAL LIFE, BUT BASED ON KIND OF THE 2D 3D THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

BUT AS YOU'LL SEE, WE HAVE THAT RAILING THAT PROTECTS FROM THE SHARED USE PATH.

WE HAVE THE CANAL, AND THEN WE HAVE THE EXISTING SIDEWALK SHARED USE PATH ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH THAT EIGHT FEET.

SO THEN A LITTLE BIT ON INTERSECTION TRAFFIC CONTROL ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

SO AS YOU'LL SEE WE HAVE FOUR PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS AT THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

BENDING BRANCH LANE AND KRASNER DRIVE, HURLEY BOULEVARD, AND THEN DOWN AT MAYWOOD AVENUE AS WELL.

WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING SIGNAL AT JUPITER.

WE'RE GOING TO ADD A SIGNAL AT GARVEY, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE TWO SIGNALS TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR, AT THE SHOPPING PLAZA AND AT MINTON ROAD.

SO THEN ON DRAINAGE POND LOCATIONS.

SO WE HAVE NUMEROUS POND LOCATIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING THOSE IN ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE VACANT TODAY.

AND AS YOU'LL SEE, WE HAVE ABOUT 25 ACRES, JUST SHY OF 26 ACRES OF TOTAL POND ACREAGE ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

SO THEN RIGHT AWAY.

SO THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CORRIDOR IS ABOUT 66FT.

AND THEN ON THE EAST SIDE FROM THE C10 CANAL TO MINTON ROAD, WE'RE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 66 AND 112FT.

THE PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY IS GOING TO BE HOVERING KIND OF RIGHT AROUND 102FT.

WE DO GO UP TO 194FT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ROADSIDE SWALES AS A PART OF OUR DRAINAGE FEATURES.

SO THEN YOU SEE THE PARCELS IMPACTED THERE.

THE GREAT NEWS IS THAT THE CITY ACTUALLY OWNS QUITE A FEW OF THESE PARCELS ALREADY.

SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY ADVANCED RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.

AND WE'RE ONLY LOOKING AT ABOUT $3 MILLION OF TOTAL RIGHT OF WAY COSTS.

THE MONEY SLIDE.

SO AS YOU ALL SEE HERE PRETTY HIGH OVERALL TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COSTS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 110 MILLION TO TO WIDEN THE ROADWAY.

FOR OUR PROJECT LIMITS, WE HAVE SOME UTILITY RELOCATION AND WETLAND MITIGATION COSTS, THE 3 MILLION IN RIGHT OF WAY COSTS THAT I MENTIONED $10 MILLION FOR DESIGN, WHICH IS FULLY FUNDED, BY THE WAY. SO ONCE WE GET THIS PDA DONE, YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCURE THAT DESIGN.

VERY SHORTLY AFTER THAT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A CI, WHICH IS CONSTRUCTION, ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION.

AND THAT'S JUST A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST.

SO I THINK I SHAVED ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OFF MY TEN MINUTE, FIRST TEN MINUTE PRESENTATION AND THEY GOT PACKED AGENDA.

SO WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DID ON THIS.

YOU KNOW, I'M I'M PERPLEXED WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AT SAINT JOHNS AND MALABAR ROAD.

WE'RE INVESTING ALREADY IN TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND EVEN A MASS SIGNAL OUT THERE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

SO WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO TO A ROUNDABOUT AT THAT POINT? SO FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

SO THE COUNTY OWNS MALABAR ROAD WEST OF THE C10 CANAL.

AND SO IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, THEY'VE WANTED THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE TO BE ROUNDABOUTS AT AT LEAST THEIR TWO LOCATIONS WEST OF THE C10 CANAL.

SO AS FOR, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS GOING UP DEPENDING ON HOW THOSE ARE DESIGNED, IF THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR THE FOUR LANE WIDENING IN PLACE, THOSE MAY NOT BE IMPACTED.

BUT IF NOT, THEN THOSE WOULD BE IMPACTED BY THE WIDENING IF THEY'RE NOT DESIGNED FOR IT.

WELL, I THINK WE'VE WE'VE DISCUSSED THOSE BIG MASS SIGNS ON THIS DAIS FROM WHAT I REMEMBER.

AND SO THAT THAT'S AN AREA THAT I, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

SO IF NOT FOR YOU, FOR STAFF TO I MAY BE REMEMBERING THIS WRONG.

RIGHT. BUT I, I'M THINKING RIGHT NOW WE'RE PERMITTED FOR A TEMPORARY STRUCTURE LIKE THE WIRE.

BUT ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL WAS TO PUT THOSE BIG MASS ARMS SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.

I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUES TO SEE WHAT QUESTIONS THEY HAVE.

YES. I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER, AND THEN I'LL I'M TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT WORDS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT WHEN YOU SHOWED THE ROUNDABOUTS AND I LIVE OFF THIS ROAD.

ACTUALLY, I LIVE OFF.

WHAT'S THAT? BRANDON BRANCH? YEP. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

AND YOU WANT A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT THERE? THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.

AND YOU HAVE TWO LARGE SUBDIVISIONS AT THAT INTERSECTION, AND I LIVE IN ONE OF THEM, AND.

IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT, I DON'T THINK I EVER COULD GET ON THE ROAD.

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I DON'T THINK A ROUNDABOUT WOULD SERVE US ANY JUSTICE.

I THINK IT WOULD MAKE THE TRAFFIC WORSE.

AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS NOT JUST BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOL BUS THAT COMES INTO THAT DRIVES INTO A BENDING BRANCH, AND THEY DON'T EVEN GO INTO THE THE SUBDIVISION.

THEY STOP, PICK UP THE KIDS AND THAT CAUSES A DELAY JUST FOR THE SCHOOL BUS.

EVERYBODY STOPS AND LET THE SCHOOL BUS DO WHAT IT DOES.

AND DURING THE RUSH HOUR YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TURNING IN THAT.

SO I HAVE A DEEP ISSUE WITH THE ROUNDABOUT AT THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION WHERE WE HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT.

THAT'S A CITY INTERSECTION.

YOU'RE NOT CORRECT. I THINK THAT'S WEST OF THE C10 CANAL.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S BREVARD COUNTY.

SO THE C10 CANAL IS IN GREEN, SO EVERYTHING WEST OF THE C10 CANAL IS MAINTAINED BY BREVARD COUNTY, AND EVERYTHING EAST OF THE C10 CANAL IS MAINTAINED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

OKAY. SO THAT INTERSECTION IS MAINTAINED BY THE COUNTY.

YEAH, AND IT WOULD AND WE CAN COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THAT.

YEAH. BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE A SHERIFF, A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY PATROLLING THAT AREA.

I SEE A PALM BAY POLICE PATROLLING AND YEAH.

AND RESPONDING AND STOPPING CARS.

SO THAT'S WHY I SAID IT SHOULD BE THE CITY.

AND I'M AGREEING WITH THE MAYOR.

WHEN YOU GET TO THE PARKWAY AND MALABAR, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE.

YOU GOT SCHOOLS, YOU GOT SUBDIVISION.

IT WOULD MAKE TRAFFIC WORSE OF THAT FOUR LANE WILL, WILL, IT'LL BE BACKED UP EVEN MORE BECAUSE THEN YOU GOT KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL, YOU GOT MASSIVE SUBDIVISIONS.

EVEN BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PARKWAY OFF MALABAR, THEN YOU GOT THE YOU GOT FRED PROPERTY PARK.

AND ALL I'M SEEING IN MY VISION IS A CIRCLE GOING AROUND AND NOT STOPPING.

AND WHEN I'M GOING TO GET IN THAT CIRCLE, I DON'T THINK SO UNLESS I'M RISKING MY LIFE TO GET IN IT.

SO I'M ALL FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M NOT FOR THE ROUNDABOUT.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY INFLUENCE TO TALK TO THE CITY OR THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT, BUT THEY NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. FIRST SPACE COAST TPOS HERE, MISS GEORGIANA GILLETTE, THANK YOU FOR COMING, MAN.

I'M APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE THE SPACE COAST TPO SUPPORT ON THIS.

I'LL GET I'LL GET RIGHT TO IT.

SORRY. MY VOICE IS RASPY.

I'VE BEEN YELLING AT HIGH SCHOOL KIDS 5 A.M., SO THEY NEEDED A LITTLE TOUGH LOVE.

BUT THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION FOR US.

THANK YOU. SIR, THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE WITH THE COUNTY DIRECTLY LIKE THAT.

THAT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.

WE JUST GOT TO GO TO THEM, MAKE SURE WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH SO WE CAN ADDRESS IT COLLECTIVELY.

WE'RE ALL STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS CORRIDOR IN THIS AREA.

SO WE ALL SHOULD BE PITCHING IN.

SPEAKING OF PITCHING IN, THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR STAFF OR IT MIGHT BE COLLECTIVELY.

LET'S GET RIGHT TO THE POINT.

FUNDING. WHAT ARE OUR FUNDING OPTIONS? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? CAN STAFF TALK TO IT LIKE I SEE THE NUMBER? I'M READY TO GO BECAUSE IT'S ONLY GOING TO GO UP.

YEAH, IT'S ONLY GOING TO GO UP.

SO I'M READY TO GO TO TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I'VE DRIVEN DOWN SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, EVEN THOUGH I LIVE IN THE SOUTHEAST, AND I SEE WHAT PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THIS THE SOONER WE CAN MOVE ON IT, THE BETTER.

SO LIKE A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BE LIKE NEXT WEEK AND OR TOMORROW AND GO FROM THERE LOOKING FOR FUNDING OPTIONS.

BECAUSE THIS IS THIS PLACE IS EXPLODING.

SO. RIGHT. SO THANK YOU SIR.

YEAH. AND IT'S YOU KNOW JUST TO TO YOUR POINT, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO BABCOCK RIGHT.

YEP. AND YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A SEVEN MILE CORRIDOR ON BABCOCK THAT'S ALSO LOOKING FOR HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CONSTRUCTION FUNDING.

AND SO IT'S. YEAH, IT'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT. SO WHAT? DO WE HAVE ANY FUNDING OPTION IDEAS RIGHT NOW OR.

I'M TRYING TO. I'M SORRY.

I'M GETTING RIGHT TO IT. YEAH, YEAH.

SO I THINK YOU SO, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. NOTHING.

NOTHING. THAT'S REALLY LIKE A SLAM DUNK.

I GOTCHA, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE.

LAST YEAR YOU RECALL WE APPLIED FOR THE RAISE GRANT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THE FEDERAL FUNDING.

THAT'S WHERE THE LARGEST, YOU KNOW, PORTIONS WE CAN FIND ARE, YOU KNOW, THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY USUALLY AVAILABLE.

SO WE INTEND TO APPLY AGAIN FOR THE RAISE GRANT.

BUT EVEN THAT WAS JUST A GRANT THAT WOULD FUND I THINK IT WAS AROUND $40 MILLION OR SO.

SO IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE PART OF THIS, BUT NOT THE FULL THE FULL LENGTH, I BELIEVE IT WAS MAYBE FROM MINTON TO JUPITER AREA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN.

BUT RIGHT NOW FEDERAL FUNDING IS REALLY THE ONLY, THE ONLY BEST OPTION FOR US ON ON MAJOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

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THEN WE GOT TO FEDERAL, STATE, COUNTY, US ALL OF US GOT TO GET SEE THAT, PUT OUR PORTION TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT THE SPACE COAST TPO HAS BEEN ABOUT.

SO THEY HAVE THAT SAME RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE OTHER ENTITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY.

THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH THE SAME.

SO LET'S JUST I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH TASK.

I KNOW IT'S A HARD PILL TO SWALLOW.

I HEARD THE AUDIENCE GASP AS SOON AS THAT NUMBER POPPED UP, SO I UNDERSTAND, BUT I THINK WE CAN DO IT.

I REALLY THINK WE CAN DO IT.

LET'S JUST WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE.

SO THANK YOU, SIR, FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR, MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD.

I THINK YOU GENTLEMEN COVERED JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, NEEDED TO BE ASKED THE FUNDING ASPECT.

YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU BEEN TO DC.

I DID THE FORTUNE TASK TO GO AND TRY TO GET SPEAK TO ALL LAWMAKERS IN REGARDS OF GETTING SOME FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT.

I KNOW THIS PROJECT PARTICULARLY.

IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN NUMBER ONE.

THANK YOU, MISS GEORGIANA.

GEORGIANA AND YOUR TEAM TO TO REALLY HELP US WITH THAT AND SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

BUT BUT AGAIN YEAH, IT JUST REALLY CONTINUE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION AND KEEP AT IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TRY TO BRING, BRING, BRING THE MONEY IN AND HOPEFULLY TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE BECAUSE THIS IS, AS YOU ALL ALREADY SAID, IT'S CRITICAL FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR THE GROWTH WE'RE SEEING IN THAT PART OF THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

APPRECIATE IT. THANKS AGAIN.

I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THAT $10 MILLION DESIGN COST.

THAT WAS THE FORESIGHT OF THIS COUNCIL.

JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THAT WAS THE FORESIGHT.

AND THEN THAT WAS THE PARTNERSHIP, AS YOU SAID, THE TPO AND AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S THREE OF US THAT SIT ON THAT ON THAT BOARD.

RIGHT. SO WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE THIS.

THERE'S A HUGE NEED HERE AND IN THE SOUTHEAST, AS YOU ALLUDED TO.

BUT THAT $10 MILLION, THAT DESIGN, THAT WAS THAT WAS THE START.

YEAH. AND I'M I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT.

NOW, IS THERE A BIG CHUNK TO, TO GO FORWARD.

YES. BUT THAT DESIGN COST WAS IT SHOWED EVERYONE THAT WE WERE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS.

AND AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE SENDING.

SO I THINK I LOOK AT THINGS AS THE GLASS IS HALF FULL.

WE ONLY GOT $144 MILLION TO GO.

RIGHT. BUT WE CAN GET THIS DONE BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING IT IS A PRIORITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE SENDING THAT MESSAGE THROUGHOUT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

AND SO GEORGIANA IS HERE, AND AND I KNOW THAT SOMETHING ABOUT HER LEADERSHIP ON THAT AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS SHE LISTENS AND SHE TAKES MENTAL NOTES, AND SHE BRINGS THAT FORWARD TO OUR FDOT SECRETARY, WHICH I WAS QUITE IMPRESSED WITH HER PRESENTATION.

WE NEED MORE IN THIS COUNTY, IN THIS AREA.

AND SHE'S BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR US.

SO I'M I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW GEORGIANA, THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR US, SO THANK YOU.

LET'S MOVE ON TO YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

SOUNDS GOOD. PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT, SO SECOND PRESENTATION.

WE'LL START THE TIMER.

EMERSON, DRIVE SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL IMPLEMENTATION.

GRANT. SO I'M GOING TO REFER TO SAFE STREETS AND ROADS FOR ALL AS SS FOR A THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION JUST TO ABBREVIATE THAT.

AND WHAT I'LL TALK THROUGH TODAY IS A LITTLE BIT ON THE CRASH DATA OVERVIEW.

WE WENT OUT AND DID A FEW REVIEW A FEW WEEKS AGO.

SO I'LL DISCUSS THE OBSERVATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS COMING OUT OF THAT, AND THEN DISCUSS THE SS FOR A AND THE NEXT STEPS.

SO A LITTLE BIT ON THE CRASH DATA FOR THE STUDY CORRIDOR.

SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR MALABAR ROAD UP TO CULVER DRIVE.

WE HAD ONE FATAL CRASH THAT WAS AN ANGLE AT THE MALABAR ROAD INTERSECTION.

AND WE HAD 12 SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES, WITH NINE OF THOSE OCCURRING ALONG EMERSON DRIVE.

SO ALONG EMERSON DRIVE.

SO PULLING OUT THE MALABAR ROAD INTERSECTION THAT HAS ITS OWN KIND OF ISSUES AND PROBLEMS THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT AT SOME POINT.

BUT REALLY FOCUSING ON THAT EMERSON DRIVE SEGMENT THAT I MENTIONED, LIKE I SAID, NINE NINE SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES, 184 TOTAL CRASHES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

SO THAT'S QUITE A BIT FOR KIND OF A TWO LANE RESIDENTIAL ROAD.

THAT POSTED SPEED IS A LITTLE HIGHER.

IT'S 40MPH.

PROBABLY CONTRIBUTING TO SOME OF THIS.

WHAT YOU SEE IS WE HAVE QUITE A FEW REAR END.

WE HAD ALMOST 70 33 ANGLE LEFT TURN AND JUST UNDER 30 SIDESWIPE CRASHES ALONG THE CORRIDOR WITH NINE TOTAL PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE RELATED SOME OF THOSE HOT SPOTS. AND SO, YOU SEE, I'LL GO THROUGH HERE.

CULVER. WE HAD 32 CRASHES.

NARRAGANSETT AND NESBITT.

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WE HAD SEVEN EACH AT FRED LEE PARK WHERE YOU HAVE THE SIGNAL THERE? WE HAD FIVE CRASHES.

AMERICANA HAD 15.

AND THEN HAWTHORNE LANE AND FAIRHAVEN DOWN TO THE SOUTH HAD 12 EACH.

SO HOW DID WE GET HERE? THIS ALL PIGGYBACKS ON THE SPACE COAST TPO VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN THAT WAS JUST COMPLETED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD IN FEBRUARY.

THE COUNTY HIM.

SO THE HIGH INJURY NETWORK THAT'S WHAT THE H I N STANDS FOR.

THE MALABAR ROAD INTERSECTION WAS ON THE VEHICULAR H I N SO IT POPPED BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF SERIOUS AND THAT ONE FATALITY AT, AT MALABAR AND EMERSON ON THE PALM BAY SPECIFIC HIGH INJURY NETWORK.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK A LOOK AT YOUR CITY AND REALLY COMPARED JUST YOUR ROADWAYS ITSELF, BECAUSE WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE COUNTY KIND OF GETS WATERED DOWN WITH SOME OF THE OTHER BIGGER ROADWAYS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

BUT LOOKING AT PALM BAY, SPECIFICALLY, PORTIONS OF EMERSON DRIVE DID POP FOR PEDESTRIAN, MOTORCYCLE AND VEHICULAR CRASHES ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE MALABAR ROAD INTERSECTION AS WELL. SO IT WAS IDENTIFIED AS A TARGETED SAFETY CORRIDOR.

THAT REALLY HELPS US TAKE THAT NEXT STEP, DO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER STUDY AND POTENTIALLY LOOK AT A GRANT.

AND THEN I HAD SOME ARROWS THERE TO POINT AT THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT PICTURES.

SO BASED ON THIS DATA, WE WENT OUT AND FORMED A FIELD REVIEW.

SO WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

FIRST WAS AN AM AND SCHOOL FIELD REVIEW.

SO GETTING OUT AND LOOKING AT THE TWO SCHOOLS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, LOK MA AND THEN PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY.

WE THEN LOOKED AT THE WHOLE CORRIDOR AND SOME OF THE INTERSECTIONS ALONG THE CORRIDOR AS WELL.

IN THE MORNING WE WENT BACK OUT IN THE AFTERNOON, OBSERVED WHAT THE SCHOOL INTERACTIONS WERE LOOKING LIKE THERE, AND THEN WENT BACK OUT AT NIGHT TIME TO REALLY SEE KIND OF HOW DARK THE CORRIDOR IS.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S SURPRISED.

THERE'S NO LIGHTING OUT THERE. SO IT IS PRETTY DARK.

SO WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR SS, FOR OUR SAFE STREETS FOR ALL GRANT.

SO ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

NO. GO BACK. SO SIDEWALK EDITION ALONG EMERSON DRIVE ON THE EAST SIDE.

ALSO LOOKING AT LIGHTING AND HIGH FRICTION CORE SURFACE TREATMENT.

BASICALLY MORE PAVEMENT TO TO PREVENT KIND OF PEOPLE FROM, FROM KIND OF GOING OFF THE ROAD.

SPEED MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUES, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN TRANSIT STOPS IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.

SO KIND OF STEPPING THROUGH EACH OF THOSE.

THE SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE OF EMERSON DRIVE.

IT'S INCONSISTENT.

AND THERE WAS A PREVIOUS STUDY THAT WAS DONE, PREVIOUS PROJECT.

YOU ALL HAD KIND OF DEVELOPED A NARRATIVE FOR A SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL PROJECT TO LOOK AT EXISTING OR TO LOOK AT PROPOSED SIDEWALK FROM NARRAGANSETT OR SORRY, FROM FOURTH STREET UP TO NARRAGANSETT.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO THEN EXTEND THAT SIDEWALK SOUTH DOWN TO MALABAR ROAD.

SO WE'D BASICALLY BE COMPLETING THE SIDEWALK ON THE EAST SIDE, AND YOU'D HAVE SIDEWALK FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR ON THE EAST SIDE.

YOU DO HAVE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE ALREADY, SO YOU'D REALLY JUST BE FILLING OUT THAT NETWORK.

IMPROVE LIGHTING ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

SO WE KNOW WITH THIS BEING RESIDENTIAL, WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT TO GO PUT STREET LIGHTS RIGHT OUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE'S HOUSES.

WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE LIGHT POLLUTION.

SO LOOKING AT TARGETED AREAS ALONG THE CORRIDOR WHERE YOU MAY HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL, MAYBE AT YOUR MAIN INTERSECTIONS TO ENHANCE THE LIGHTING ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

LIKE I MENTIONED, THE HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT.

THIS IS REALLY JUST KIND OF ENHANCING THE THE PAVEMENT THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.

WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT AND UPCOMING RESURFACING EFFORTS.

SO REALLY JUST KIND OF COMING IN ON TOP OF ALL THAT AND KIND OF AN ABOVE AND BEYOND TREATMENT TO HELP WITH SAFETY.

AND THEN SPEED MANAGEMENT.

SO THE CURRENT POSTED SPEED IS 40MPH.

REALLY, WHEN YOU DRIVE IT, IT'S UNCOMFORTABLE GOING THROUGH THOSE CURVES AT 40MPH.

SO POTENTIALLY LOOKING AT REDUCING THAT POSTED SPEED LIMIT, MAKING A LITTLE BIT MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CORRIDOR.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF PED AND BIKE ACTIVITY.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF SCHOOL ACTIVITY AS WELL.

SO REALLY JUST KIND OF MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE BRINGING BRINGING THAT DOWN TO BE A SAFER SPEED ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

AND THEN JUST KIND OF TALKING THROUGH SOME OF THE HIGH LEVEL IDEAS FOR THAT SPEED MANAGEMENT.

SO MARK CROSSWALKS WITH RECTANGULAR RAPID FLASHING BEACONS, ALSO KNOWN AS RB'S, ADDED A NUMBER OF OUR KIND OF SIDE STREETS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.

SO REALLY JUST EMPHASIZING PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ALONG THE CORRIDOR, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING SAFER FACILITIES FOR THEM.

I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS SO ROUNDABOUT IN AMERICANA.

THAT WAS ONE IDEA THAT WE HAD.

LIKE I SAID, WHETHER THAT WORKS OR NOT IT DOES WORK FROM AN OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NEED TO BE ENDORSED BY CITY COUNCIL FOR US TO MOVE THAT FORWARD AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

AND JUST I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU, AND I KNOW THAT SAFETY WISE, ROUNDABOUTS STATISTICALLY, ARE SAFE.

I REALIZE THAT I BROUGHT UP THE ROUNDABOUT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN THAT MAST ARM.

AND AS COUNCILMAN FOSTER ALLUDED TO, WE HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE BUSSES THAT GO UP AND DOWN THAT CORRIDOR ON SAINT JOHNS.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET THE WRONG IMPRESSION.

OH YEAH. WE UNDERSTAND THE STATISTICS SAFETY WISE OF ROUNDABOUTS.

IT'S JUST PERHAPS ON MALABAR.

YES. YES, SIR.

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SO CARRY ON.

YEP. ALL RIGHT, SO THEN ANOTHER IDEA IS, IS WHAT WE CALL CHICANES OR HORIZONTAL DEFLECTION ALONG SOME OF OUR KIND OF STRAIGHT SEGMENTS.

SO REALLY KIND OF PROVIDING SOME KIND OF CHANNELIZATION TO KIND OF HELP SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AND REALLY KIND OF SUPPORT THAT 35 MILE PER HOUR POSTED SPEED IF WE WERE TO DO THAT SPEED FEEDBACK SIGNS, ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE MAY LOOK AT, AND THEN VERTICAL FEATURES SUCH AS MEDIAN SEPARATORS.

AND SO WHAT THAT WOULD BE IS KIND OF WHERE YOU HAVE THE DOUBLE STRIPE TODAY, JUST PUTTING IN KIND OF LIKE A 2 FOOT OR 4 FOOT CONCRETE KIND OF RAISED SEPARATOR, NOT NOT IMPACTING ANYBODY'S ACCESS, BUT PUTTING IT IN THOSE SPOTS TO HELP PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF DEFLECTION IN THE ROADWAY.

AND THEN STREETSCAPING IS ALSO AN OPTION, MAYBE LOOKING AT MORE STREET TREES.

SO ONE MORE QUARTER WIDE IMPROVEMENT IS TRANSIT STOP IMPROVEMENTS.

AS YOU'LL SEE HERE, THIS IS THE ONLY STOP WITH ACCESS TO THE ROADWAY ITSELF.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THOSE BOARDING AND ALIGHTING AREAS AS PART OF THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN ALSO ENHANCING ANY TRANSIT STOPS ON THE WEST SIDE WITH THAT EXISTING SIDEWALK AS WELL.

SO AT HAWTHORNE LANE, THIS WAS AN INTERESTING ONE.

WE HAD QUITE A FEW.

WE HAD FOUR CRASHES WITH EAST WEST VEHICLES AND NORTH SOUTH VEHICLES ALONG EMERSON DRIVE.

SO WE THINK THERE'S KIND OF A DRIVER EXPECTANCY ISSUE HERE.

AT OR AT THE HAWTHORNE AND EMERSON INTERSECTION.

THIS IS THE ONLY STOP SIGN ALONG HAWTHORNE.

SO WHEN FOLKS ARE DRIVING ALONG HAWTHORNE, THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING THE STOP SIGN.

AND THEY MAY BE RUNNING THAT STOP SIGN CREATING THAT ISSUE.

SO ENHANCING STOP SIGNS, LED LIGHTS, GETTING A SOLAR PANEL ON THERE, SOMETHING TO KIND OF HELP IMPROVE SAFETY AT THIS LOCATION.

NOW I'M CURIOUS, WHY NOT A ROUNDABOUT THERE? WHY? I'M JUST CURIOUS.

BECAUSE YOU'RE I KNOW THE INTERSECTION.

YEAH. IT'S IT FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE.

DIDN'T REALLY HAVE HIGH ENOUGH VOLUMES TO BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY EXTREME OF A TREATMENT, BUT ROUNDABOUTS ARE FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, AND SO WHERE WE'D WANT TO PLACE ROUNDABOUTS WOULD BE AT LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE ENOUGH FRICTION FROM THE SIDE STREET. YEAH, YEAH.

SO I MENTIONED THE ROUNDABOUT AT AMERICANA, SO I'LL MOVE THROUGH THAT.

AND THEN AT NARRAGANSETT, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE AS WELL.

SO A LOT OF KIND OF SCHOOL TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA A LOT OF FRICTION.

THERE'S AN ISSUE WHERE DRIVERS ARE PULLING UP AND THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T HAVE GAPS.

AND SO THEY'RE MAKING RISKIER MOVEMENTS ON THE TO THE SIDE STREET, INTERACTING WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN THAT ARE WALKING IN THOSE CROSSWALKS.

AND THEN AT CULVER. THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING ONE.

SO WHEN CULVER WAS WIDENED TO FOUR LANES, THERE WAS A MERGE LANE THAT WAS PUT IN GOING SOUTHBOUND.

YES. THERE HAS BEEN 15 SIDESWIPE CRASHES IN THAT SHORT MERGE AREA THERE.

WE RAN OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS ON THIS.

YOU DON'T NEED DUAL LEFTS COMING OFF OF CULVER, SO WE'RE GOING TO RECOMMEND GOING TO SINGLE LEFTS.

WE STILL QUEUE LENGTHS ARE ALL FINE.

INTERSECTION OPERATIONS ARE FINE.

AND YOU REALLY CLEAR UP THAT CRASH ISSUE.

THAT WAS KIND OF CREATED BY THAT BY THAT WIDENING.

SO A LITTLE BIT ON NEXT STEPS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO FINALIZE THE RECOMMENDATIONS LIST HOPEFULLY TODAY.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR YOU ALL TO GIVE YOUR SUPPORT FOR SOME OR ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE HERE.

REALLY THIS IS GOING TO SPRINGBOARD US INTO WRITING THE GRANT NARRATIVE THAT THEN WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON HERE IN APRIL AND THE TPO WE'LL GET THAT.

WE'LL WORK THROUGH THOSE REVISIONS IN APRIL AND THEN LOOK TO SUBMIT THE GRANT APPLICATION IN MID MAY.

SO HOPEFULLY GOING TO GO GET SOME MONEY TO GO BUILD SOME SIDEWALKS.

YEAH. THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU MENTIONED COVID AND I KNOW ABOUT THAT MERGING LANE.

I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I HAVE IS WHY NOT RECOMMEND EXTENDING THAT? MERGE LANE, AS OPPOSED TO ELIMINATING IT BECAUSE THERE'S SEVERAL VEHICLES THAT MAKE THAT DUAL TURN LANE.

AND HEAD SOUTH ON EMERSON.

WE HAVE A LOT, OF LOT MORE RESIDENTS THAT THAT USE THAT.

SO MY MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHY NOT EXTEND THAT? SO AS A PART OF THE SAFE STREETS FOR ALL APPLICATION.

MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT WOULD BE A CAPACITY RELATED IMPROVEMENT.

SO YOU'D BE EXTENDING THOSE TWO LANES FURTHER SOUTH.

THERE'S ALSO ISSUES WITH THE NEXT INTERSECTION DOWN AND KIND OF THE ANGLE OF THAT INTERSECTION AND WHERE YOU WOULD DROP THAT LANE.

SO IT KIND OF BECOMES AN ISSUE OF, OKAY, WHERE'S THE TERMINUS OF THAT EXTRA LANE.

AND SO FROM KIND OF A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, FROM WHAT WE'VE ANALYZED A LITTLE BIT BETTER TO REDUCE AND POTENTIALLY INCLUDE IT AS A PART OF THE GRANT AS OPPOSED TO EXTEND IT, IT KIND OF FALLS UNDER A CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT.

AND THEN NOW YOU'RE DEALING WITH, OKAY, NOW YOU'RE WIDENING A ROAD FOR ANOTHER 500,000 1500 FEET, HOWEVER LONG THAT IS.

AND THE CONCERN WOULD BE THE LONG LINE OF LEFT TURN FROM CULVERT TO EMERSON AT THAT POINT.

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SO YEAH. SO WE WE LOOKED AT THE QUEUE LENGTHS AND WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING LONGER THAN ABOUT 400FT.

SO ABOUT.

16 CARS, 15 CARS.

BUT WITH THE OPERATIONAL BECAUSE IT'S A T INTERSECTION, ALL OF THOSE CARS GET SERVED.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CARS THAT WOULDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH IN THE GREEN CYCLE FOR THAT INTERSECTION.

SO A LITTLE BIT LONGER QUEUES, BUT WE WOULD ACCOMMODATE EVERYBODY.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN FOSTER I'LL START WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I LIKE THIS PROJECT.

I REALLY DO, AND LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I WAS DOING MY COUNCIL REPORT.

I SAID, WE NEED TO DO MORE LOOKING AT THESE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AROUND THE CITY, AND IT MIGHT BE THIS AND THAT AND CHANGE, ADDING A LANE, ADDING A LIGHT STRIPING, PUTTING UP SIGNAGE THAT IMPROVE TRAFFIC.

AND THIS STUDY DOES ALL OF THAT.

IT DOES ALL OF THAT.

SO I REALLY I'M GLAD WE GOT THIS.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO KEEP US SAFE AND KEEP MONEY IN OUR POCKETS FROM CRASHES, KEEP US SAFE, AND NO ONE GETTING KILLED OUT THERE.

MY ONLY QUESTION IS.

WAS THERE A LOT OF ACCIDENT AT NIGHT OR DURING THE DAY OR SPREAD OUT? YEAH. SO WE HAD I THINK I HAD THE STAT ON THE LIGHTING.

I THINK WE HAD, YEAH, OVER 30% OF OUR INJURY CRASHES WERE AT NIGHT.

AND OVER HALF OF OUR PET BIKE CRASHES WERE AT NIGHT AS WELL.

RIGHT. SO AND THAT AND THE REASON I ASK THAT BECAUSE LIGHTING IS IMPORTANT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, I DON'T LIKE TO DRIVE AT NIGHT BECAUSE I WEAR GLASSES. AND IT I'M MORE ALERT WHEN I'M DRIVING AT NIGHT.

AND I USED TO DRIVE FOR A LIVING AS A OFFICER, SO I KNOW THAT IT COULD BE DANGEROUS.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE LIGHTING STRIPES, STRIPING THE ROAD LIGHTS UP REFLECT THE LIGHTS UP THE ROAD.

SO I WOULD EMPHASIZE WE NEED LIGHTING ESPECIALLY ON THIS, BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT MANY ACCIDENTS ON THAT ROAD LIKE IT IS NOW.

AND AND NOT ONLY THERE BUT OTHER PARTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

WE NEED TO DO A GRANT LIKE THIS AGAIN.

WE NEED TO FIND A PLACE AND A ROAD OR A SECTION PALM BAY THAT'S HAVING TRAFFIC ISSUES, FATALITY ISSUES, AND GET TO WORK.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

FIRST OFF, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS, SO I'M EXCITED FOR IT.

MY QUESTION IS MORE SO FOR OUR STAFF FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BECAUSE YOU GAVE THE NUMBERS FOR YOU KNOW, VEHICULAR CRASHES BECAUSE OF LIGHTING.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CRIME IN AREAS THAT AREN'T AS LIT AS WELL.

SO IF I COULD JUST HEAR THE PERSPECTIVE FROM EITHER THE POLICE CHIEF OR DEPUTY CHIEF, EITHER ONE.

MADAM. MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR.

GOOD EVENING. HEY, CHIEF.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

WE TALKED ABOUT CRASHES, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT CRIME.

HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE CITY THAT MAJORITY OR THERE'S AN INCREASE IN CRIME IN AREAS THAT AREN'T AS WELL LIT? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WANT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

SO YEAH, THERE, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTING ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOULD BE, BUT ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CITY WHERE YOU HAVE MINIMAL LIGHTING, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC BECOMES AN ISSUE, PEOPLE LOOK TO HIDE IF THEY'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO GET INTO NO GOOD OR BREAK INTO A RESIDENCE OR BREAK INTO A CAR, AND THERE'S NO LIGHTING, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HIT.

SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY AN ISSUE.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT.

SO AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF WHAT ALL THE DIFFERENT LIGHT FIXTURES THERE ARE.

BUT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, RESPECT YOUR OPINION ON IT.

DO YOU HAVE OPINIONS ON DIFFERENT LIGHT FIXTURES YOU'VE SEEN OR SOME THERE MAY THEY MAY BE BRIGHTER BECAUSE I'VE SEEN CITIES WHERE THERE ARE SOME BRIGHTER.

BUT YEAH, SOME THAT ARE REALLY BRIGHT THEN DO CAUSE A.

YEAH CAUSE ISSUES ON THE ROADWAY FOR, FOR DRIVERS THAT ARE RIDING OR OPERATING IN MOTOR VEHICLES.

AND THEN ALSO WITH THE HEADLIGHTS.

SO KIND OF REFLECTS AND CAUSES ISSUES THERE.

YEAH. I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN THAT FIELD.

YEAH. I WASN'T SURE. KNOW THAT.

MORE LIGHTING.

YEAH. IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY IS BENEFICIAL.

OKAY. SO ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU SIR.

I'M GLAD YOU WENT DOWN THAT LANE BECAUSE HE, HE MENTIONED LIGHTING MORE IN COMMERCIAL INTERSECTIONS, BUT I KNOW SEVERAL RESIDENTS THAT WOULDN'T MIND HAVING THAT LIGHT ILLUMINATE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME.

THAT'S OUR FAULT, TOO. SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, SIR.

ARE YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE? YEAH. THAT'S CONCLUDES. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

[00:55:01]

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AGAIN.

I'M I'M DEFINITELY GLAD WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION HERE.

RIGHT. SO YOU ALL KNOW FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SOFT SPOT FOR ME.

THE, THE THE OVERALL STREET LIGHTING THROUGHOUT THE CITY, NOT JUST YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN ALL MAJOR ROADWAYS, BUT ALL OVER THE CITY.

THAT IS ONE OF THE FIRST OBSERVATION.

WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE OVER 17 YEARS AGO, THIS WAS TO ME.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE LIVE IN SUCH A DARK CITY, ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT.

HOW WAS IT ACCEPTABLE? SO ONE OF MY FOR THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS I'VE BEEN ON IT.

MR. SHERMAN WE'VE WE'VE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF PROGRESS.

BUT BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE, ARE VERY ALARMING THE NUMBER OF CRASHES AND THE YOU KNOW, THE PROOF SHOWED THAT IT'S A LOT OF IT ALLUDED TO TO THE LACK OF LIGHTING BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THEM HAPPEN AT NIGHT AND SIDEWALKS AS WELL.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NOW WE HAVE THE NUMBERS, WE CAN SEE IT, WE SHARE IT.

I'M GLAD IT'S BRING BEING BROUGHT TO LIGHT.

RIGHT. BUT BUT IT'S IMPORTANT.

THIS IS SOMETHING A CONVERSATION WE NEED.

THIS COUNCIL NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUS.

WHETHER IT'S A BUDGET ISSUE.

WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST COUNTING ON FPL.

APPARENTLY, WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE.

WE NEED TO REALLY PUT SOME SERIOUS EFFORT IF WE NEED TO GO OUT, YOU KNOW? THE WORM OF FPL LOOKED AT SOME OTHER VENDORS THAT CAN PROVIDE THESE SERVICES AND ALSO REALLY CREATE A MASTER PLAN.

WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS WELL, MASTER PLAN FOR SIDEWALKS AND ALSO FOR, FOR LIGHTING.

SO I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO REALLY LET'S PRIORITIZE THAT.

THAT WOULD SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEM OR TRAFFIC CRASH ISSUES AND ALSO SAFETY CREATE MORE OF A SAFE COMMUNITY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO ADD.

YEAH. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING.

SO LIGHTING IS AN PHWAY.

PHWAY. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE.

YES. SO LIGHTING IS AN FHWA PROVEN SAFETY COUNTERMEASURE.

SO EVERY ALL OF THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED HERE REALLY HIT ON WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IN THE GRANTS FOR THESE SAFETY GRANTS.

I'VE HEARD IN OTHER AREAS LIKE LIGHTING SPECIFICALLY DOING A FULL LIGHTING GRANT.

SO LIGHTING BY ITSELF AND GOING AND LOOKING AT OKAY, YEAH, LET'S ADD LIGHTING TO MULTIPLE CORRIDORS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE.

SO THIS WOULD BE PACKAGED WITH A LOT OF OUR OTHER SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CITYWIDE LIGHTING AND THEN WE CAN PROVE THAT THERE'S A CRASH HISTORY PROBLEM WITH NIGHTTIME CRASHES THAT GOES TO FURTHER SUPPORT.

YOU KNOW, THE THE GRANT NARRATIVE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT.

SO THANK YOU. SO SO IN OTHER WORDS, LET LET US LET US WORK ON, ON THIS AS WE CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, OVERALL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY.

BUT RIGHT HERE, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IN THIS DIRECTION WHERE THERE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

CERTAINLY, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THAT.

OBVIOUSLY WE COULD WORK ON BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

RIGHT, RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. BUT THE FOCUS IS ON THIS.

AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS TALK ABOUT A MASTER PLAN OKAY.

IS WHAT WE WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH. ALREADY.

YEAH. SO NOW HE'S JUST HE'S USING THIS PLATFORM TO SAY SEE I TOLD YOU GUYS.

RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

HE'S LOOKING FOR MEASURABLES I UNDERSTAND.

CORRECT. YEAH. SO SO BUT YEAH.

NO WE'RE WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS.

MADAM SHERMAN, WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM COUNCIL? I'VE HAVE THE DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. WE'RE ACTUALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TODAY AGAIN.

THE MASTER PLANNING THE FPL, THE TWO ROUNDS OF ADDITIONAL STREET LIGHTS.

YOU ALL ALREADY APPROVED.

STAFF GAVE ME AN UPDATE LAST WEEK.

I BELIEVE IT WAS THAT FPL HAS FINALLY RECEIVED ALL THE EQUIPMENT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO THE INSTALLATIONS.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE SOME ACTIVITY.

I'LL LET YOU ALL KNOW ONCE WE HEAR THAT.

AND BEHIND THAT I WAS TALKING TO VALENTINA EARLIER TODAY.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THE NEXT ROUND OF STREET LIGHTS.

BUT THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ARE SOLAR STREET LIGHTS.

AND I THINK WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THOSE ARE ALL VERY MUCH ON OUR RADAR, AS WELL AS THE MASTER PLANNING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR, FOR BOTH STREET LIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS.

AND WHILE I HAVE A MOMENT, I ALSO WANTED TO JUST THANK THE SPACE COAST TPO AS WELL RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR FUNDING THAT BROUGHT KITTLESON INTO THE THE MIX ON THIS TO HELP US WITH THE TECHNICAL REVIEW THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR GRANT APPLICATION TO STRENGTHEN OUR, OUR APPLICATION THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT FORWARD.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND BEFORE WE CONCLUDE WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SHARE THIS WITH, SINCE WE HAVE GEORGIANA FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FROM THE TPO.

[01:00:02]

AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ASKED THE FDOT SECRETARY ON MULTIPLE LETTERS MULTIPLE TIMES DURING OUR TPO ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS ON I-95.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PDA STUDY THAT WILL BE GOING ON IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, BUT WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT REGARDING ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDING OR EARMARKS WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REGARDING THAT ENTIRE CORRIDOR.

WHERE AM I GOING WITH THIS? I'M GOING TO BE PULLING THAT ITEM BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL BE HERE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I, I SHARE THIS WITH YOU.

WHAT ELSE CAN.

THE STATE DO BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY LOST THE LIFE ON 95.

THE ISSUE IS NOW PEOPLE ARE CUTTING IN FRONT OF OTHERS FROM THE FROM THE LEFT LANE.

OTHER PEOPLE ARE ONLINE TRYING TO EXIT ONTO MALABAR.

AND YOU KNOW THIS I'VE WITNESSED WHERE IT'S BEEN SO DANGEROUS THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST DRIVING AND CUTTING OTHERS OFF.

EXITING IT COULD CAUSE ANOTHER FATALITY.

AND SO MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE WAITING ON A STUDY.

AND MEANWHILE, WE WE'RE RISKING THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS.

SO I'M GOING TO REQUEST UNDER UNDER THAT ITEM THAT WE SEND A LETTER TO THE STATE.

WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE, WHETHER IT'S STATE TROOPERS TO BE OUT THERE ENFORCING OR A DETERRENT, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE WHILE WE'RE WAITING ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY, MA'AM.

AND HAD COUNCIL HERE.

MAIER. SINCE YOU BROUGHT UP, WHAT'S THE LAST COMMUNICATION WITH THE STATE ON IT? SO WE DO HAVE A PDA STUDY THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.

THE SECRETARY DID EXPEDITE THAT.

I WAS SPEAKING WITH FRANK WATANABE.

HE WAS QUITE ACTUALLY.

THEY THEY EVEN CONCURRED THAT THEY MOVED THAT UP A LOT QUICKER.

SO THAT'S THAT STUDY WILL BE DONE THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS FOR THE STATE JULY 1ST.

HOWEVER, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE STUDY TO BE COMPLETED AND THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOR THEM TO START EXECUTING.

I HAVE ASKED FOR EXPEDITES OVER THAT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ON THE AGENDA IS LOOKING FOR IMMEDIATE AN EARMARK FOR IMMEDIATE IMPROVEMENTS WHILE WE WAIT.

SO I WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BEING HERE AND LET HER KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING.

IDEALLY, I'M JUST GOING ON A ON A GUESS HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO PULL THAT ITEM AND DISCUSS IT SO THAT WE CAN ASK THE STATE FOR ADDITIONAL ACTION ON THAT CORRIDOR TO AVERT ANY ADDITIONAL LOSS OF LIFE.

SO I'M LETTING YOU LETTING YOU KNOW, MA'AM, THAT THAT'S GOING TO I'M GOING TO BRING THAT UP.

I REALLY AM CONCERNED, AS I VISIT THAT I KNOW YOU AVOID THAT.

YOU PUBLICLY SAID THAT YOU AVOID THAT INTERSECTION, BUT I'M CONCERNED FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

AND THIS IS A LIFE AND DEATH MATTER FOR ME.

SO MA'AM, I'M SHARING THAT WITH YOU, SO YOU COULD TAKE THAT.

AND I TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT AS WELL.

HOW YOU HANDLE THAT WITH THE FDOT SECRETARY.

BUT I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING THIS UP.

I'M PULLING ITEM NUMBER NINE.

I JUST WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW.

BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.

RIGHT. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I THINK WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THIS DAIS THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PRESENTATION WITH LIGHTING.

SO WE'VE GOT DEFINITELY LIGHTING IS IS CRITICAL TO IMPROVING THE CORRIDOR.

OUR SIDEWALKS ARE CRITICAL.

SO THESE ARE GREAT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

AND I'M. I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS MAYOR.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, WE ALL CARE ABOUT ALL THE CORRIDORS.

I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THEM THE INFORMATION THEY NEED ON THE OTHER AREAS THAT NEED LIGHTING AS WELL.

THAT MAY NOT THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN AS PART OF THIS.

SO I'M SAYING I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S UNDERSTOOD.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE DIRECTION.

THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE SIR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. HEY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, BEFORE WE GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I BELIEVE YOU MAY WANT TO DO THE PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.

IS IS ARE THEY HERE TODAY? OUTSTANDING. I THINK I MADE A VISUAL.

I SEE FORMER COUNCILWOMAN JUDY PACCIONE.

NICE TO SEE YOU, MA'AM.

I AND I KNOW THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE.

THANK YOU. MICHELLE.

MICHELLE OR MICHELLE, AS YOU WERE DONE.

[01:05:02]

MICHELLE. GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I LIKE TO CALL MARY GREEN AND KIM GREEN UP FRONT.

MARY GREEN AND GREEN.

MARY. YEAH.

MARY GREEN.

MISS GREEN, CAN YOU STAND AT THE PODIUM? AND I JUST WANT TO.

YOU COULD COME AROUND.

YOU COULD COME AROUND THE PODIUM, FACE THE AUDIENCE.

I JUST WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE I PRESENT THIS FLAG TO YOU.

MARY. MARY AND KEN GREEN, WE HAD A FLAG FLOWN, AND THEY HONOR.

AND WHEN I THINK OF AN AMERICAN FLAG, THERE'S NO OTHER FLAG LIKE THE AMERICAN FLAG.

IT'S WORN ON OUR UNIFORMS. POLICE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE MILITARY IS IS FLOWN ON OUR BATTLESHIPS, ON OUR AIRCRAFT.

AIR FORCE ONE HAS THE AMERICAN FLAG ON IT.

IS IN OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

AND IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE OVERSEAS IN THE MILITARY CAPACITY, YOU COULD SEE OTHER PEOPLE RESPECT OUR FLAG AND LOOK AT IT AS A AS A VISION OF FREEDOM, LIBERTY AND JUSTICE AROUND THE WORLD.

THAT'S MY EXPERIENCE.

I LOVE THIS FLAG.

IT'S NOTHING.

NOTHING BETTER TO HAVE TO BE GIVEN.

THE AMERICAN FLAG AND THE PERSONAL SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.

WE GOT A LOT OF FLAGS.

EVERY STATE GOT A FLAG.

ALMOST EVERY CITY HAS A FLAG.

EVERY COUNTRY HAS A FLAG, BUT IT'S NOTHING LIKE THE AMERICAN FLAG.

SO I'M SAYING, LET ME READ THIS CERTIFICATE, THIS AMERICAN FLAG, THIS FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THE RECIPIENT, MARY GREEN AND KEN GREEN.

KEN GREEN SERVED.

HIS COUNTRY AS A UNITED STATES MARINE.

AND HE ALSO SERVED THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS A CITY COUNCILMAN.

AND HE WAS MY FRIEND.

AND MARY GREEN SERVED THIS COUNTRY AS A SOLDIER IN THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

AND SHE'S MY FRIEND.

AND SHE DOES A LOT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

I DON'T THINK KEN GREEN WOULD BE ON HAS SERVED ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

WASN'T FOR MARY. LET ME CONTINUE TO READ AND THE REQUESTS OF COUNCILMAN RANDY FOSTER.

THE FLAG WAS FLOWN OVER CITY HALL ON FEBRUARY 28TH, 2024.

AND THE HONOR OF YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO, MARY, CAN YOU COME HERE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE.

YOU AND KEN GREEN TO THE CITY.

THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE TO OUR COUNTRY.

THIS THIS PROGRAM.

MARY, YOU'RE THE FIRST WOMAN IN OUR FLAG PROGRAM TO RECEIVE AN HONOR OF YOUR SERVICE AND UNIT.

KEN GREEN IS THE FIRST COUPLE TO RECEIVE A FLAG FLOWN IN BOTH OF YOUR SERVICE.

I JUST WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU.

AND WE LOVE YOU, BARRY.

YOU SOMETHING FOR EACH OF YOU.

THESE AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

WE'RE GIVING IT TO KEN.

AND I HAVEN'T KNOWN WHAT TO DO WITH THEM SINCE.

SO THAT'S CURTAINS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU KNOW ABOUT CHALLENGE COINS.

MARY, YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

YOU CAN DO IT. THE CITY MEANT SO MUCH TO MY HUSBAND.

HE WAS SO PROUD TO HAVE SERVED THE CITY.

[01:10:05]

ON CITY COUNCIL.

GET WITH YOU TOO, MICHELLE.

HE WAS VERY HUMBLE, AND I CAN TELL YOU HE PROBABLY WOULD IF HE WERE HERE.

WOULD SAY HE DID NOT DESERVE THIS.

BUT HE DID DESERVE THIS AND SO MUCH MORE.

AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR HONORING HIM THIS WAY.

I KNOW THEY SAID IT WAS FOR BOTH OF US, BUT TO ME IT WAS MORE FOR HIM.

SHE DON'T. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, HE PASSED AWAY.

LAST YEAR ON MARCH 6TH, WHICH IS WHY THIS IS KIND OF DIFFICULT.

BECAUSE YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST ANNIVERSARY, SO IT'S STILL RAW.

BECAUSE ON THE FIFTH IT WOULD HAVE BEEN OUR 42ND WEDDING ANNIVERSARY AS WELL.

SO I THANK YOU ALL AND I THANK THE CITY FOR THIS HONOR.

GOD BLESS. THANK YOU.

CAN YOU LET MICHELLE SAY SOMETHING? MICHELLE. MICHELLE.

MICHELLE, DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? COUNCILWOMAN. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HONORING KEN GREEN.

AND AS A PAST COUNCIL MEMBER, WE ALL KNOW.

THE DEDICATION IT TOOK.

AND KEN WAS ONE OF THE BEST.

AND HE JUST SERVED HIS COMMUNITY AS HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY, AND I HONOR ALL WOMEN THAT HAVE SERVED ALSO. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARY.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR DOING THIS.

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL AND IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR.

YOU KNOW, COUNCIL CAN I CAN I INVITE MICHELLE AND MISS GREEN TO JOIN US TO TAKE A PICTURE REAL QUICK? WELL, WHAT ABOUT TIME, RANDY? CAN WE. YEAH, YEAH.

CAN YOU GUYS COME UP? WE'LL TAKE A TAKE A PICTURE OF YOU RECEIVING THE FLAG SURROUNDING RANDY.

MICHELLE, CAN YOU JOIN US AS WELL, PLEASE? THANK YOU. SO.

THE. IF YOU WANT TO DANCE, I COULD STAND UP.

BROTHER, COME UP AS WELL.

YES, YES. YOU WANT.

YOU WANT TO STAND UP? COME ON.

YOU CAN. YOU GOT IT.

JUST LEAN ON ME. YEAH.

LEAN ON ME.

COME ON, COME ON.

OKAY. OH, GOODNESS.

COUNCILMAN. IS THAT BETTER? I THINK WE HAVE SOMEONE ELSE.

JULIA. OKAY, LET'S GET HER.

LET'S GET. I'M FINE.

WELL, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE STOOD.

MARY STOOD.

YEAH. STAY RIGHT HERE.

STAY. MARY, SWITCH, SWITCH.

SWITCH WITH HIM. SWITCH WITH.

OKAY. THERE WE GO. THE MUSIC.

STOP. THAT'S BETTER. YEAH.

IF I'M SIX.

BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THE PICTURE, I MIGHT NEED YOU TO.

HEY, NANCY'S.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE GOT TO BREAK OFF BECAUSE KENNY DOES IT WITHOUT A BREAK.

OH. THAT'S KENNY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

STAY HERE AND SHARE SOME WORDS TOO.

GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SISTER.

GOD BLESS YOU. IT'S GREAT SEEING YOU.

YOUR BROTHER WAS A GREAT.

[01:15:11]

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THAT WAS AN EMOTIONAL TIME.

I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TO SHARE.

MARY'S BEEN ON OUR HEARTS.

WHEN WE LOST SERGEANT GREEN.

HE WAS A MARINE CORPS SERGEANT.

REALLY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT GAVE SO MUCH TO THE CITY.

BUT NOT ONLY OUR CITY.

HE WAS A FAITHFUL MEMBER OF OUR LADY OF GRACE.

AND THE COUNTLESS HOURS AND THE DEDICATION THAT HE GAVE TO TO THE CHURCH WAS TO BE COMMENDED.

AND IT WAS NOTEWORTHY.

AND WHAT I REMEMBER MOST ABOUT KING GREEN WAS HE WAS A BIG ADVOCATE OF THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON WHEN NO ONE ELSE WAS.

AND I WAS A YOUNG MAN AND HE INSPIRED ME.

HE WAS A CLIMBER.

SO. COUNCIL.

I THINK THE FLAG WAS A REALLY MEMORABLE AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR SERGEANT KEN GREENE COUNCILMAN KEN GREENE, BUT I WANT TO GO A STEP FURTHER.

I WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD DEDICATE AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAYBE HONORING HIM, EITHER NAMING HIS STREET OR A PARK WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE DID THAT FOR COUNCILMAN.

I'M PAT WOODARD, SO I'M I'D LIKE TO BRING THIS UP TO SEE IF WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THIS DAIS SO THAT WE COULD HAVE MAYBE OUR PARKS ADVISORY COMMITTEE START LOOKING AT NAMING ONE OF OUR PARKS AFTER COUNCILMAN KEN GREEN.

THUMBS UP FOR ME. YEAH.

I'LL SUPPORT. YOU ARE MY SUPPORT.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN WE HAVE A CONSENSUS HERE, AND I THINK FRED UNDERSTANDS.

FRED'S BEEN WITH OUR COMMUNITY FOR SEVERAL DECADES, I THINK, FRED, YOU'RE JUST AS OLD AS OUR CITY.

OR PERHAPS EVEN OLDER.

SO PRAISE THE LORD.

OLD AS YOU ARE.

CARRY ON. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN, I APPRECIATE HOW WE COULD HONOR THE GREEN FAMILY MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, MAYOR.

MR. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS.

THE FIRST ONE IS WE JUST HAD PRESENTATIONS TALKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE ROADS.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT GAYNOR ROAD ONE MORE TIME.

THE OVERGROWTH ON GAYNOR ROAD IS SO BAD THAT THE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN READ THE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS.

THE GO YOU CAN'T READ THEM.

SO THAT I GUESS IF YOU CAN'T SEE THE SPEED LIMIT SIGN, THAT MEANS YOU CAN GO AS FAST AS YOU WANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE DOING ON THE ROAD.

SO THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF MAINTENANCE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN ON THE ROAD, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SAFER.

YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S COMING DOWN THAT ROAD.

AND AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, IT'S A WINDY ROAD AND IT'S THE NARROWEST ROAD WITH THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IN THE ENTIRE CITY.

SO THAT CREATES A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF MAINTENANCE JUST TO MAKE A LITTLE BIT SAFER.

I WOULD GO OUT THERE WITH MY CHAINSAW, BUT I'M AFRAID SOMEBODY WOULD GET MAD.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER SINCE WE HAD ALL THESE PRESENTATIONS ON WHAT THE EXPENSE WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO FACE WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE EXPANSION. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY FOR THE EXPANSION WITHIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T BE EXPANDING, BECAUSE THAT CREATES EVEN MORE OF A SAFETY HAZARD.

IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE SAFETY, MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE THE SAFETY THE PRIORITY BEFORE THE EXPANSION AND THEN EXPAND.

MA'AM, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY OF GAYNOR.

HAVE WE LOOKED AT THAT? YES, SIR. I'LL DOUBLE CHECK WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.

WE CAN HANDLE THE CUTBACKS.

WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.

JUST TALKING TO DEPUTY MAYOR.

WE DID HAVE A I BELIEVE WE WE SELECTED A VENDOR, A CONTRACTOR, TO DO THE STRIPING THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AT A PRIOR MEETING, BUT I WAS NOT SURE THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE YET, SO I'LL GET AN UPDATE. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD REAL QUICK ON GAYNOR.

MR. BATTEN, THANK YOU FOR BEING TRULY BEING AN ADVOCATE, ESPECIALLY IN THAT WITH THAT CORRIDOR.

[01:20:01]

YOU MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.

WE I TALKED TO ALL STAFF CITY MANAGER REGARDING THE STRIPING THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE SAFETY ASPECT.

AND ALSO AS FAR AS THE CUTBACK OF THE TREE, AS WE BOTH KNOW, IT USED TO BE A LOT WORSE.

SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW PUSHING FOR I KNOW STAFF DID SOME IMPROVEMENT AND WE CERTAINLY CAN DO BETTER.

I DO THINK THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

AND NICE HAIRCUT, BY THE WAY.

THANK YOU, MR. THOMAS REESE.

I'M HERE. I'M TOM REESE FROM 114 HURST ROAD, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

AND MR. MAYOR I WAS HERE LAST TWO OTHER MEETINGS, COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE UPDATE IS ON THE PINEAPPLE COVE TRAFFIC.

AND WE STILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC, AND WE'RE GOING, AS EVERYBODY IS SAYING RIGHT NOW, IS THE TRAFFIC IS HORRENDOUS ON EMERSON AND ACCIDENTS AND LIGHTS AND, YOU KNOW, WHATSOEVER.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PINEAPPLE COVE SCHOOL AT NIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY WANTS ANOTHER MEETING.

WE'VE HAD MEETINGS LAST YEAR AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND AT THIS WHOLE SCHOOL IS AFFECTING THE WHOLE LAMAR AREA.

AND THERE'S RUMOR THAT A BIG RUMOR IS IT'S GOING TO BE HIGH SCHOOL IN THERE NEXT TO DOLLAR GENERAL.

THAT'S GOING TO BRING UP MORE TRAFFIC AND MORE PEOPLE AND MORE HEADACHES AND STUFF.

AND THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER SOLUTIONS.

I KNOW PINEAPPLE COVE.

THEY WANT TO EXPAND, AND THAT'S GOING TO BRING IN MORE TRAFFIC TO THAT AREA IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A HIGH SCHOOL IN.

ANOTHER. SUGGESTION IS TO BUY THE PINEAPPLE COLD BY THE BAPTIST CHURCH NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

AND THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE THAT, USE THAT AS A LOOP FOR THE FOR THE SCHOOL AND RELOCATE THAT BAPTIST CHURCH WHERE THE ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE HAVE THE LITTLE PARK RIGHT THERE.

NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE THAT PARK, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT PROBABLY BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT BAPTIST CHURCH.

THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.

WELL, LIKE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT THERE'S WITH THAT HIGH SCHOOL COMING IN AND WE STILL HAVE THE TRAFFIC.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE RESULTS? HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE TO THE SCHOOL, PINEAPPLE COVE SCHOOL? WE WANT ANSWERS IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN CAN YOU PROVIDE A BRIEF AND THEN PERHAPS WHAT WE CAN DO IS SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS TO LET THEM KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU MET OR OUR STAFF MET WITH THE FOLKS OF PINEAPPLE COVE CLASSICAL ACADEMY.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO, THE MEETING STAFF, MY OFFICE MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, ENGINEER, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

WE ALL MET WITH PINEAPPLE COVE LAST WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THE SITUATION AGAIN.

I ACTUALLY DID SEND AN EMAIL OUT YESTERDAY TO THE THE CONTACTS WE HAD OF THE RESIDENTS FOR EMAIL ADDRESSES.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, WE'LL GET THAT.

SO WE CAN KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP FOR NEXT TIME AS WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS.

THE SHORT STORY OF THE THE MEETING IS THAT A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW, THE FIRST AND PROBABLY MOST SIGNIFICANT AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION, IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF COVENANT CHURCH, RIGHT NEXT TO THE SCHOOL, HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

AND SO THE SCHOOL IS WORKING WITH THE CHURCH TO DO SOME THINGS TO IMPROVE THE THE CAR LOOP SITUATION, TO TRY TO REMOVE IT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE WAY IT HAS BEEN GOING, AND TO USE THE CHURCH PARKING LOT INSTEAD FOR THAT, THAT THAT LOOP.

IT JUST HAPPENED THIS WEEK.

ONE OF THE THINGS I SENT TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS WHO MAY HAVE RECEIVED IT WAS THE MESSAGE THAT THE SCHOOL PUT OUT ABOUT THAT AND ABOUT HOW THEY'RE TRYING TO WORK THAT, BUT IT LITERALLY JUST STARTED.

SO WE'RE WE'RE REALLY WATCHING TO SEE HOW THAT WILL HOW THAT WILL PAN OUT.

WE'VE CERTAINLY TALKED TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT THE NEED FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THE FUTURE AT THAT INTERSECTION AT NESBITT AND EMERSON.

AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST SAY FOR ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING OR HERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE PROJECT THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL.

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THIS THE PINEAPPLE COVE HAS MADE IT VERY CLEAR THEY INTEND TO COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION FOR A HIGH SCHOOL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

THE CITY HAS NOT RECEIVED THAT APPLICATION YET, BUT IT WOULD BE FOR A PARCEL THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET NEXT TO DOLLAR GENERAL.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF AND OBVIOUSLY WATCHING CLOSELY BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING IMPACT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE CURRENT SCHOOL.

SO THAT'S JUST VERY HIGH LEVEL WHERE WE'RE AT, SIR.

THANK YOU. NOW, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THIS HIGH SCHOOL.

YEAH, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION FOR THAT.

WE DO NOT. NOT YET.

NO, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

QUESTION. YES, MAYOR.

I JUST WANT TO ADD TO IT.

WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH? BECAUSE EACH MEETING, IT'S, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS FROM PINEAPPLE COVE ASKING FOR AN UPDATE, AND THEN TWO WEEKS LATER, ASKING FOR AN UPDATE.

WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH TO GET THEM BACK INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE MEETINGS THAT WE DID BEFORE OR LIKE A SPOKESPERSON WHO EVERYBODY CAN GO TO AND HEY, SO AND SO IS GOING TO SPEAK.

ALL RIGHT. THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE FLOODED WITH A LOT OF EMAILS LIKE US.

BUT AT LEAST SOMEBODY WHO CAN KIND OF, YOU KNOW, OKAY.

YEAH. I'M SORRY, I FORGOT TO MENTION AT LAST WEEK'S MEETING, WE DID TALK ABOUT THE NEXT COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS DIRECTED BY COUNCIL.

SO WE ARE PLANNING TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING FOR SURE WITH THE RESIDENTS, WITH THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AND STAFF.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL WE'LL JUST CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH.

BUT IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THIS SITUATION, AND I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT. THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO TO FIX THIS SITUATION THAT THE RESIDENTS OF LOCHMOR HAVE ENDURED FOR SO LONG.

AND SO I'M, I'M LOOKING AT IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PCA, PINEAPPLE COVE CLASSICAL ACADEMY TO FIX THE SITUATION THAT THAT THEY'RE IN. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

PASTOR KEN DELGADO.

KEN DELGADO, 154 ANGELO ROAD SOUTHEAST AND THE PASTOR OF PALM BAY OF THE HOUSE OF PALM BAY.

FIRST OF ALL, IN REFERENCE TO THE PROCLAMATION PROCUREMENT MONTH, I JUST WANT TO TAKE NOTE THAT JUST YESTERDAY I GAVE A PROCLAMATION YEAR TO MY WIFE TO PURCHASE EVERYTHING SHE COULD WITH THE MONEY THAT I HAVE, AND SHE IS DEVELOPING GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES OF PALM BAY.

AND SO WE CELEBRATE THE CAPACITY THAT SHE HAS DEVELOPED IN THE PROCUREMENT AREA OF MY FINANCES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT THAT NOTE.

THERE. THAT BEING SAID, SHE'S NOT HERE.

PRESCOTT. I'M READING FROM GENESIS CHAPTER 15 WHERE ABRAHAM DID NOT HAVE A CHILD, AND HE. AND THIS IS WHAT GOD SPOKE TO HIM.

HE SAID, LOOK NOW TOWARDS HEAVEN AND LOOK AT THE STARS IF YOU'RE ABLE TO NUMBER THEM.

AND HE SAID TO HIM, SO SHALL YOUR SEED BE.

AND HE BELIEVED THE LORD, AND IT WAS COUNTED HIM TO HIM FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, BECAUSE OF THE FAITH THAT HE HAD A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT I SEE HERE THAT WE IMPLEMENT IN OUR DAILY LIFE AND LIVING, EVEN YOU ALL DO.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE WHAT BEFORE YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE HOW.

AND THEN YOU MAKE A PICTURE OF THE HUAT LIKE EMERALD CITY OR EMERALD LAKES.

YOU HAVE A PICTURE BEFORE WE GET THE HOW, WE HAVE THE WHAT.

AND AND IN.

FINDING GOALS OR ENVISIONS, JUST LIKE YOU DID FOR THE ROAD.

FIRST YOU FIND THE.

THE WHAT? THE EXPANSION OF THE ROAD TO THEN FIND OUT THE HOW.

THIS IS WHAT GOD DID WITH ABRAHAM.

HE SHOWED HIM WHAT NOT THE HOW.

NOW IN HIS CASE, THE HOW HAPPENED TO BE A SUPERNATURAL MOVE OF GOD.

MAY I SUGGEST FOR THOSE IN THE CITY, FOR THOSE WHO DO PRAY.

THAT WHILE WE SEE THE WHAT AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE HOW, THAT WE MIGHT ASK GOD TO BRING IN A SUPERNATURAL, UNEXPECTED AVENUE THAT CAN SUPPLY.

BEYOND OUR NATURAL CAPACITY BECAUSE IT WAS BEYOND ABRAHAM'S CAPACITY TO DO IT.

AND SO GOD HAD TO INTERVENE.

AND IN THIS MOMENT, I AM OF THE FAITH THAT PRAYER DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

YOU'VE GOT TO WHAT? NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE HOW.

HOW ABOUT PUTTING GOD INTO IT AND PRAYING OVER IT AS YOU CONTINUE FORWARD, NOT JUST FOR THE CITY, BUT EVEN FOR YOUR PERSONAL DESIRES, GOALS, AND VISIONS. AND LET'S SEE WHAT GOD CAN DO IN THE MIDST OF FINDING THE HOW TO THE WHAT.

THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

THANK YOU. MISS LISA JACKSON.

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OKAY. YOU CAN BRING THAT DOWN.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

I'M HOPING I'M NOT THE SHORTEST ONE HERE, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE.

THAT'S OKAY. JUST.

THAT FEELS SO MUCH BETTER AND GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, MAN, I THINK THAT'LL BE GOOD.

I ALSO DON'T WANT TO POP THE MIC, RIGHT? OKAY, I DON'T REALLY NEED THIS, BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT ANYWAY.

I CAN'T SEE YOU OR DO THESE.

I'M LISA JACKSON, 589 TRUMPET STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE WILDLIFE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE HERE, AS WELL AS SOME RESIDENTS WHO ALSO DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE HERE AND FEEL AS I DO.

MY BIGGEST CONCERNS ARE THE LOSS OF WILDLIFE HABITAT AND THE TREES, TWO ISSUES THAT ARE INTERCONNECTED.

I ALSO HAVE SUGGESTIONS FOR MITIGATING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS NOT ADHERING TO THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CITY, AS IT MENTIONS IN GOLD CON ONE, THE CITY SHALL MAINTAIN TREE PROTECTION REGULATIONS TO SUSTAIN NATURAL VEGETATION FILLERS FOR AIR POLLUTION.

THE CITY IS ALSO TO PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.

SO WHAT'S BEING DONE TO PROTECT THE WILDLIFE AND THE TREES? WE NEED THE TREES FOR SHADE, ESPECIALLY DURING SUMMER.

THEY SUPPLY OXYGEN, HABITAT, PRIVACY.

THEY PROTECT US FROM WIND AND WEATHER EVENTS AND LAND STABILITY.

WE'RE LOSING ALL OF THAT.

THE SKYLINE HAS CHANGED.

THE TREES ARE GONE.

SO THE ISSUE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN A LOT IS PURCHASED, THE OWNER CAN CLEAR IT IMMEDIATELY, EVEN IF THEY HAVE NO PERMIT TO BUILD.

THIS HAPPENED ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME.

THE CORPORATION WHO OWNS THE LOT CLEARED IT WITHOUT HAVING ANY PERMITS.

THEY NEED A VARIANCE FOR SEWAGE.

THE VARIANCE HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET, BUT YET THEY PREPPED A LOT ANYWAY IN PREPARATION, THINKING THEY'RE GOING TO GET APPROVAL.

TWO LOTS BEHIND MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE WERE CLEARED A YEAR AGO AND NOTHING'S BEEN DONE WITH THEM.

LOSS OF HABITAT AND IT'S HOUSES ARE BEING BUILT, REPLACING THE DECADES OLD TREES THAT ARE STANDING THERE ALREADY WITH THREE TWIG LIKE TREES IN THE FRONT AND BACK YARD IS NOT SUSTAINABLE AND IT'S NOT A SOLUTION.

MY PROPOSAL, ONCE PURCHASED A LOT CANNOT BE CLEARED UNTIL ALL PERMITS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

ALSO, IF REQUESTS FOR VARIANCES OR BUILDINGS ARE NOT APPROVED AND THE LOT WAS CLEARED, THE OWNER MUST RESTORE THE LOT TO THE ORIGINAL HABITAT OR AS CLOSE TO THAT AS POSSIBLE FOR NEW HOUSES.

TAG SOME OF THE TREES ON THE LOT TO REMAIN.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR ALL THE DESTRUCTION.

THE NEXT THING IS HABITAT.

DUE TO THE CLEARING OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY AND DEVELOPMENT, AND ALL THE TREES THAT ARE GONE FROM THERE, BOBCATS HAVE NOW BEEN SEEN WANDERING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

A HOUSE CAT WAS RECENTLY TAKEN FOR FOOD AS LAND IS PERMITTED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

IS ANYONE CHECKING TO SEE WHAT ELSE IS LIVING THERE? IT'S HAPPENING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.

IT'S NESTING SEASON.

ANOTHER LOT WAS CLEARED A BLOCK AWAY FROM ME.

WAS ANYBODY CHECKING FOR THE BIRDS OR THE TURTLES? SO MY PROPOSAL.

WHILE WE CAN'T BRING BACK THE LOST PETS, PERHAPS WE CAN ESTABLISH A FUND TO REIMBURSE LOCAL RESIDENTS FOR THEIR LOSS OF THEIR FUR FAMILY TO ROAMING WILDLIFE.

IT'S ONLY FAIR DEVELOPERS OR SOMEONE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TRAUMA AND DISTRESS OCCURRING IN THE COMMUNITY CREATED BY THE DEVELOPMENTS.

MONEY CAN BE USED EITHER FOR CREMATION OR TO ADOPT ANOTHER PET.

THE FUNDS COULD BE PART OF THE SELLING PRICE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER.

IT'S JUST A THOUGHT.

LASTLY, I HAVE TWO SECONDS PLEASE.

PAVEMENT AND ROAD BETWEEN JUPITER AND MALABAR PLEASE.

THERE'S STILL POTHOLES THERE AND IT'S TERRIBLE.

THANK YOU. SO CAN WE ADDRESS THE MINTON ROAD? YES, SIR. YOUR QUESTION ABOUT MINTON ROAD, MINTON ROAD AND WACO BOTH.

WE'RE SOLICITING FOR BIDS.

THE CONTRACTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO RESPOND BACK HERE SHORTLY, AND WE EXPECT TO BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON MINTON FIRST SOMETIME IN MAY THIS YEAR.

AND ALSO AND ALSO ALSO THE OTHER QUESTION SHE HAD REGARDING PROPERTY RIGHTS OR CLEARING OF THE LANDS WITHOUT I COULD.

YES. I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT, AND I KNOW YOU'VE SEEN IT, TOO.

PEOPLE CLEAR THE LOT AND THEY JUST LEAVE IT WHERE THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

WELL, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE, BUILD A HOUSE.

YES, THAT'S YOUR PROPERTY.

BUT. SO I'M WITH YOU ON THAT PORTION, MA'AM.

I'LL BE HONEST ON THE ON THE FUR PART, YOU LOST ME.

BUT ON THAT PORTION, I'M WITH YOU 100%, SO I GOT YOU ON THAT.

SO. BUT THE THIRD PART WITH THE FUR FUND.

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OKAY, MA'AM. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF STAFF CAN LOOK INTO IT.

IF THE IF THERE IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT AND IF THERE IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE AT LEAST HAVE SOME FOLLOW UP FOR AT NEXT COUNCIL? YEAH. NO, I WANT TO SEE WHAT.

WHAT. YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR, IF I MAY WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A DIFFERENT ASPECT OF THAT.

SO PART OF THE LOT CLEARING TOPIC.

WHILE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

I'M PRETTY SURE I'M CORRECT.

MULTIFAMILY DEATHS, THEY HAVE TO BE PERMITTED PRIOR TO CLEAR THE LOT, BUT SINGLE FAMILY.

YOU DON'T NEED THE PERMIT.

MAYOR, I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO PROPERTY, RIGHT? A PROPERTY OWNER CAN CLEAR THE LOT.

NOW, MY BELIEF IS A LOT OF THESE SITUATIONS ARE CIRCUMSTANTIAL.

WHERE YOU CLEAR THE LOT.

THE INTENT IS TO BUILD, AND I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF A OWNER CLEAR A PROPERTY, THE INTENT IS TO BUILD RIGHT AWAY.

SOMETIMES CIRCUMSTANTIAL MEANING THAT THE PROCESS TO GO THROUGH, PERMITTING AND SO ON, THINGS HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO I MEAN, I WOULDN'T BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

I THINK AN OWNER SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT CLEAR AS, AS AS NEEDED.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU ON A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, CLEARING THE LOT, THE INTENT IS TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT CIRCUMSTANCE HAPPENED, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE.

RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING STAFF SHOULD BE PUT RESOURCES INTO TRYING TO LOOK AT.

I WOULDN'T BE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

SO AND THAT THAT'S WHERE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS COME IN.

RIGHT. I HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR DECADES.

OKAY. BUT IT'S JUST BEEN CLEARED.

I GOT YOU. WELL, WHILE WE'RE ON THE TOPIC THIS SHERMAN JUST OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR HAVE AN OPINION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

BECAUSE I LEAN ON Y'ALL FOR EX, YOU KNOW, EXPERT OPINION OR YOUR TAKE.

SO I BEFORE EVEN TRYING TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION YOU KNOW SO Y'ALL DON'T PUT FORTH ANY EFFORT ON IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IN A JUST A QUICK CONVERSATION NOW.

MISS LIZA FRAZIER.

GOOD EVENING.

YES, I DO HAVE HAVE AN OPINION ON LIKE CLEARING, BUT I'LL KEEP IT TO MYSELF.

WE ARE NEXT WEEK, SO YOU CAN START ALL OVER.

NEXT WEEK.

WE ARE ACTUALLY TAKING THE TIME TO GET TOGETHER AS A GROUP MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. FINALLY, WE'VE BEEN KIND OF STALLING ON IT, AND NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT HAD THE CHANCE.

AND SO WE ARE OUR OUR CONSULTANT IS ROPING US IN AND WE ARE DEDICATING ALL WEEK TO THAT.

SO IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A TOPIC I WOULD LIKE US TO LOOK AT.

I BELIEVE WHAT THE CODE STATES IS THAT ONE ACRE OR LESS, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO CLEAR WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF PERMITS OR ANY TYPE OF APPROVALS.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFILL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, YES, YOU HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL OAK HAMMOCK NEXT TO YOU, AND THE NEXT DAY IT DOES GO AWAY.

THAT IS OUR CODE.

IT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUTH THROUGHOUT ALL OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BUT, I MEAN, WE CAN BRING BACK DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

PERSONALLY AND PROFESSIONALLY.

I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY BOLSTER OUR TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCES, BUT THAT IS REALLY UP TO TO YOU IN THIS IN THIS COMMUNITY. WELL THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THAT ANSWERS MY THAT SATISFIES ME.

AND I'M I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO IT LIKE WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER THINGS AS WELL I AGREE.

SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW AND I MIGHT CHANGE MY MIND ONCE I SEE WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME.

SO PERFECT. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU, MISS SHERMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR.

YEAH. RIGHT NOW I'M, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN FELIX HAS.

IF I HAVE AN ACRE LOT AND I CLEAR MY INTENTION IS TO.

TO BUILD ON IT.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, I DECIDED NOT TO.

I STILL MY PROPERTY, RIGHT.

SO I, I GET WHERE YOU'RE GOING, BUT THERE ARE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND AND I'M NOT SURE ABOUT ADDING MORE REGULATION TO THAT PROCESS, BUT.

WELL, I JUST YEAH.

Y WE HAVE A GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

YEAH. NO, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO DIG INTO IT.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW OKAY.

I'M LEANING TOWARDS FOLLOW YOU.

OKAY. I'M LEANING TOWARDS THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT NEXT WEEK.

YEAH. SO WE'RE WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

THEY'RE LOOKING INTO IT OKAY.

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NEXT WEEK. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SEE SOME THINGS ON.

SUSAN CONNOLLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

OF COURSE, I WAS HOPING YOU WOULD CALL ME AFTER LISA JACKSON.

BECAUSE SHE HAS SPOKEN TWICE NOW BEFORE COUNCIL.

AND I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON THE POWER OF CITIZENS COMING BEFORE THEIR COUNCIL TO START THE CONVERSATION, TO ASK AND WORK COLLABORATIVELY TOWARDS SOLUTIONS.

THAT IS NOT WHAT I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO TALK ABOUT, SO I'LL GET TO THAT TOO.

I'M HERE AS A CITIZEN WHO SERVES ON THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

THIS BOARD HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE 2010.

I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF IT SINCE 2017 WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS A WAY THAT CITIZENS CAN INTERACT WITH COUNCIL AND MAKE OUR CITY THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS DOING IS HAVING THE SECOND ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, AND IT WILL BE AT FRED POPPY PARK ON APRIL 13TH FROM 5 TO 8 P.M..

WE'RE DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THIS YEAR.

ONE OF THEM, IT'S BEING IN THE EVENING WHEN IT'S COOLER TO CONSERVE SOME ON HEAT.

IT'S IN THE PARK WHERE THE ADVISORY BOARD IS WORKING COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE RECREATION IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT MORE TO DIFFERENT CITIZENS, A GREATER THING WITH CITIZENS.

AND THERE WILL BE ACTIVITIES FOR CHILDREN AS WELL AS FOR PARENTS.

ONE OF THE THINGS FOR THE IT'S ALSO WATER MONTH.

SO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE REASONS IT'S HERE.

ANYWAYS. THE THEME OF THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM IS BE THE SOLUTION.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO TEACH AND HELP RESIDENTS LEARN HOW TO SAVE AND CONSERVE WITHIN THEIR HOMES WHILE WE'RE ALSO SAVING OUR OUR HOME IN NATURE.

AND THERE WILL BE PRACTICAL WAYS TO DO THIS WITH SOLAR AND RECYCLING AND, AND WATER CONSERVATION.

AND ALSO THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITY TO BE WITH OUR CITY OFFICIALS IN TERMS OF ONE OF THE BIG TOPICS IS MANDATORY SEWER AND WATER HOOKUP TO BEGIN THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND TO BEGIN TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR CITY IN THAT WAY.

SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THIS FLIER.

I KNOW YOU ALL CAME LAST YEAR, PARTICULARLY THE MAYOR.

I CAN REMEMBER YOU BEING THERE FOR MOST OF THE THE FIRST ANNUAL.

AND SO PLEASE, COUNCIL, I KNOW YOU WILL BE THERE AND OUR CITIZENS AS WELL.

AND I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS BOARD AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. ROBERT STICE.

ROBERT STILES, 1796, WHEN BROOK DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

I HEAR A LOT ABOUT SAFETY, BUT JUST SOME OF MY THOUGHTS HERE THAT I WROTE DOWN HERE, AND IT'S CALLED BACK AND FORTH.

IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY, STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO PROVIDE A LEVEL OF SAFETY FOR ITS RESIDENTS.

THAT OUGHT TO BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST CRIME.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE WE HAVE TO DO THIS ALSO.

BEFORE I CONTINUE, LET ME SIMPLY SAY THAT ANYTHING I SPEAK TO THE CITY COUNCIL NOW AND GOING FORWARD IS SIMPLY MY OPINION.

WE HAVE TO DEVELOP SMARTLY.

27,000 PEOPLE IN ANOTHER FOUR YEARS WILL BE COMING TO PALM BAY.

THAT'S 430 A MONTH TIMES FIVE YEARS.

27,000 BE HERE IN TEN YEARS.

I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF YOU.

OKAY. BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE BUILDING.

AND ARE WE BUILDING SMARTLY IN THE AREA OR ARE WE DESTROYING.

ARE WE IMPEDING THE AMOUNT OF QUALITY OF LIFE THAT A LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE HAS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH? YOU KNOW, I WAS ALMOST QUASI TERRIFIED WHEN I LAST HEARD THE FIRE CHIEF SPEAK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, ABOUT THEIR RESPONSE TIME, HOW AWFUL THEIR RESPONSE TIME IS BECAUSE OF A LACK OF EQUIPMENT, A LACK OF FIREMEN, FIREWOMEN, POLICE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.

THAT'S SAFETY RIGHT THERE.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HOUSE IS GOING TO BE TOTALLY INFLAMED IN 8 TO 12 MINUTES AND THE HOUSES ARE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER, YOU GET SOME HIGH WINDS HERE.

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I'M FROM COLORADO, AND I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN THE WIND STOPPED BLOWING THERE AND THE WIND STOPPED BLOWING HERE, WE GOT BIG TIME PROBLEMS. POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

OF THE 363 HOMES ON THE FORMER MAJOR GOLF COURSE, 100 YARDS FROM A DANGEROUS L-SHAPED TURN, WHICH IS L-SHAPED CURVE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MOST INHERENTLY DANGEROUS CURVES IN THE ENTIRE CITY.

THE PROBABILITY THE REALITY IS THAT THIS WILL DEGRADE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN PALM BAY TRAFFIC.

AND LET ME BACK UP ONE SECOND.

DEVELOPERS ALL TALK ABOUT.

WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY.

EVERYTHING IS GREAT.

PEOPLE ARE RETIRED, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T DRIVE THEIR VEHICLES.

THIS IS CRAZY.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE LOOKING AT HEADCOUNT.

YOU'VE GOT TO BE LOOKING AT BODIES THAT ARE IMPACTING ON SCHOOLS.

OKAY. HEALTH CARE INFRASTRUCTURE IN WHAT HAVE YOU.

IT TOOK IT TOOK ME 25 MINUTES TO DRIVE ON BABCOCK TO GET TO THE TO THE LIGHT, TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY JUST THE OTHER DAY.

YOU GOT TO CONSIDER SAFETY, PLEASE, IN REGARD TO HOW WE DEVELOP AND GOING FORWARD.

AND NOT JUST THIS IS A COMMERCIAL AREA RIGHT HERE.

AND WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND DUMP SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO REALLY GROW THIS CITY, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DESTROY IT FOR LACK OF VISION. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

MR.. BUTCH. ORRIN.

EXCUSE ME. BUTCHER. BUTCHER AT 219 TRENTON AVENUE.

FIGURED I'D GET UP HERE WHILE THE IRON'S HOT.

YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY.

THERE'S A CROSSING LIGHT AT MALABAR AND HURLEY.

PEDESTRIANS PUSH THE BUTTON.

THE LIGHT FLASHES OFF YELLOW, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OR EAST AND WESTBOUND.

PEOPLE CAN CROSS THE STREET.

IT'S THE ONLY ONE IN THE CITY.

I'D LIKE TO SEE ONE OUT HERE AT THE LIBRARY BRIDGE SO THE FOLKS CAN GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MITTEN ROAD.

IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.

IT'S OUT THERE NOW. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

THERE'S A GENTLEMAN IN A WHEELCHAIR SEEING EVERY OTHER DAY.

SITTING THERE IN OUR COURTEOUS DRIVERS HERE IN FLORIDA WILL NOT STOP.

HE SITS THERE UNTIL HE DECLARES, IF HE HAD ONE OF THOSE LITTLE LIGHTS, PUSH THE BUTTON, MAYBE HE CAN GET ACROSS.

MAYBE. TALKING ABOUT CLEARING LOTS.

IF AN LLC BUYS MULTIPLE LOTS, IS IT A PRIVATE LOT? OR IS IT COMPANY OWNED? AND WHEN THE SAME RULES APPLY.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

SIX LOTS HAS BEEN CLEARED.

THREE HAVE BEEN BUILT.

ALL OWNED BY AN LLC.

JUST LIKE TO HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT.

THANKS. DID YOU? OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER.

THIS CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, MAYOR. THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO OWNS IT.

PRIVATE OR PRIVATE, INDIVIDUAL OR A COMPANY.

THE ORDINANCE IS RELATED TO THE SIZE OF THE LOT, AND LOTS THAT ARE ONE ACRE OR SMALLER DO NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT TO CLEAR.

MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD TO WHAT MR. OREN JUST MENTIONED, THE THE LIGHT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE INTERSECTION OF EARLY AND MALABAR.

I TRULY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING IT I THINK IT'S A GREAT TOOL.

I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCE IT TODAY.

OKAY. I EXPERIENCE IT VERY THIS EVENING.

AND THAT'S WHAT GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY AT TIME, I, I COULD SIT THERE AS LONG AS 5 TO 7 MINUTES.

CANNOT MAKE THE LEFT TURN OR RIGHT TURN, FOR THAT MATTER.

LEFT TURN EVEN HARDER.

BUT THANK TO A COUPLE BICYCLISTS ON MY RIGHT PUSHED IT.

THAT'S WHAT GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO USE IT.

I FOUND IT VERY EFFECTIVE, VERY PRACTICAL.

IF WE CAN LOOK FORWARD.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT REFERENCE.

THE LIBRARY CROSSING THE ROAD RIGHT HERE MAYBE A LOT MORE INTERSECTION CAN BENEFIT FROM THAT.

I FOUND IT VERY, VERY PRACTICAL.

THANK. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKERS.

YES, SIR. OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

MADAME SHERMAN. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS ONE OF THE TWO CO-SPONSORSHIP ITEMS THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.

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THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM EASTWIND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH FOR ITS FIRST ANNUAL EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA ON MARCH 30TH, 2024 AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

I BELIEVE A REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.

WELCOME. JUST BECAUSE.

WILLIAM. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS TYLER RITCHIE FROM 4003 GARDENDALE RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

AND I BROUGHT A PRESENTATION FOR YOU.

WE ARE SEEKING TO HAVE A CO-SPONSORSHIP WITH THE CITY FOR AN EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA HELD SATURDAY, MARCH 30TH FROM 9 A.M.

TO 12 P.M.

AT FRED POPPIE PARK.

AND OUR VISION IS TO CONTINUE.

I KNOW CENTERPOINT HAS BEEN DOING THIS, AND THE WAY THIS CAME ABOUT IS WE REACHED OUT TO CENTER POINT AND WE SAID, HEY, WE WE LOVE THE EVENT THAT YOU GUYS PUT ON LAST YEAR. WE'D LIKE TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND THE CITY AGAIN THIS YEAR.

AND THEY LET US KNOW THAT THEY WEREN'T SEEKING TO DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR, AND WE ASKED THEM IF THEY WOULD MIND IF WE PICKED IT UP AND, AND BEGIN TO PARTNER WITH YOU AND, AND CONTINUE THE VISION THAT THEY STARTED AND TRY TO EXPOUND ON THAT AND CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY, FOR THE FAMILIES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE ARE WE'RE SEEKING TO DO THAT.

WE WE'VE ALREADY LAID OUT A PLAN AND EVERYTHING.

THANKFULLY WE WE'VE WORKING WITH CENTER POINT.

THEY WERE THEY WERE WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH US.

WE HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS WITH THEM.

THEY SHARED WITH US WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK.

AND SO USING WHAT THEY SHARED WITH US, WE FEEL LIKE WE CAME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN THAT WOULD SERVE OUR COMMUNITY VERY WELL THIS EASTER.

AND SO WE WE'VE LAID OUT A IT WOULD BE IN THE SAME AREA OF FRED POPPY PARK THAT THAT THEY'VE USED LAST YEAR.

AND WE HAVE QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED AND THAT ARE IN THE WORKS.

WE HAVE A HELICOPTER DROP OF 15,000 EGGS THAT WE HAVE PLANNED.

WE HAVE 3000 BAGS THAT ARE BEING PREPARED TO GIVE OUT TO CHILDREN AGES 11 AND UNDER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE ALREADY SECURED A PRIVATELY OWNED HELICOPTER.

AND A MAN IN OUR CHURCH IS ACTUALLY THE PALM BEACH COUNTY HELICOPTER PILOT FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.

AND HE REACHED OUT, FOUND THIS PRIVATELY OWNED HELICOPTER, AND THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT.

WE'VE ALSO WE'RE WORKING WITH ASTRO JUMP OF CENTRAL FLORIDA, AND THEY WE HAVE SEVEN LARGE INFLATABLES THAT ARE COMING DIFFERENT OBSTACLE COURSES AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO MANY FOOD TRUCKS AS WELL.

WE HAVE FOUR CONFIRMED FOOD TRUCKS THAT ARE WILLING TO BE A PART OF THIS EVENT KONA ICE, GRAND OPERA BEACH AND BARBECUE AND HOT DOGS.

AND SO WE'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO A FEW MORE.

WE HAVE NOT WE HAVE NOT CONFIRMED OTHERS, BUT THOSE FOUR ARE CONFIRMED AND WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME MORE AS WELL.

AND THEN ALSO WE ARE PREPARED TO PROVIDE FREE REFRESHMENTS AND SNACKS AS WELL.

SO NOT EVERYTHING WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COST THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE WE'LL PROVIDE WATER.

WE'LL HAVE A WATER STATION, A POPCORN STATION, A COTTON CANDY STATION AS WELL.

AND WE'VE ALREADY LINED UP LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AS WELL EVERY 30 MINUTES TO DO A FREE RAFFLE AND GIVEAWAY FOR ANYBODY AT NO COST.

AND AND THEN ALSO TO DO ACTION SONGS, HAVE LIVE MUSIC AND SUCH.

WE'VE ALSO LINED UP A LOT OF DIFFERENT CRAFTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

YOU KNOW, THE ROCK PAINTING, ALL KINDS OF DECORATIONS AND STUFF THAT THEY CAN DO.

WE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT FREE PLAY GAMES THAT WE HAVE PLANNED WITH GIANT JENGA, CORNHOLE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND THEN FIELD GAMES AS WELL, SACK RACES, PARACHUTES, TUG OF WAR, AND THEN ALSO WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME OF PALM BAY'S FINEST, AND WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY PULL ON THAT, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAYBE, POSSIBLY GET A FIRE TRUCK OR A POLICE CAR OR, YOU KNOW, JUST A WAY FOR THEM TO CONNECT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ALSO A PLACE FOR KIDS TO TO SEE THE THE FIRE TRUCKS, POLICE CARS UP FRONT AND IN PERSON, TAKE PHOTOS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE'RE ALSO PREPARED FOR PROMOTION AS WELL ON FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM.

AND WE'VE SECURED A WEBSITE EASTER PALM BAY COM THAT WILL WE'VE STARTED TO POPULATE, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO POPULATE AS THIS GOES FORWARD.

AND THEN ALSO TO, TO HAVE BUSINESS CARDS, FLIERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE HAVE POSTCARDS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN PRODUCED AND ALSO YARD SIGNS.

AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE CO-SPONSORSHIP, WE ASK THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE YARD SIGNS OUT AND POSSIBLY WE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TAKING THEM UP.

BUT I KNOW CODE ENFORCEMENT SOMETIMES WILL TAKE THEM UP.

BUT IF WE COULD LEAVE THEM UP, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT.

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AND THROUGH OUR CHURCH, WE'RE WORKING TO TO HAVE A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS.

AND RIGHT NOW, WE ALREADY HAVE ALMOST 125 PEOPLE THAT HAVE COMMITTED TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS EVENT.

WE'RE LOOKING TO HIT 150 VOLUNTEERS FOR THIS EVENT, BUT WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO COVER EVERY ASPECT THAT'S NEEDED FOR FOR SAFETY, PARKING, REGISTRATION, SANITATION FOR.

FIRST AID, ALL ALL THAT KINDS OF THINGS, AND ALSO TO MAKE SURE THE GAMES ARE SAFE AND EVERYTHING FOR THE KIDS.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SPONSOR AND YOU KNOW, CO SPONSOR WITH THE CITY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR CITY.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT IT TAKES TO ORGANIZE AN EVENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

YES, SIR. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORTH AND GIVING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY TO CELEBRATE.

AND MOREOVER OUR CITY STAFF DOES NOT HAVE TO PROVIDE AN EASTER EGG HUNT.

SO I'M REALLY I'M REALLY GRATEFUL, MR. RITCHIE, THAT EAST WIND IS PICKING THAT UP FROM CENTERPOINT CHURCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PARTNERSHIP.

GO AHEAD AND STAND FAST, BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SPEAKERS.

SO JUST ONE.

OKAY. HAVE A SEAT, SIR.

THANK YOU. MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS A QUESTION HOW MUCH IS ANNUALLY BUDGETED FOR THE CO-SPONSORSHIP WITHIN THE CITY'S BUDGET? THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

BUT BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, WELL, WHEN YOU ANSWER IT.

BUT REMEMBER, THESE IDENTITIES THAT ARE ASKING FOR THE CO-SPONSORSHIPS ARE TAX EXEMPT IDENTITIES, WHICH MEANS THEY DON'T PAY TAXES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

YET ALL NON-TAXED IDENTITIES PAY 7% OF THEIR TAX BILL TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION OR TO PARKS AND FACILITIES.

I WANT PEOPLE TO REMEMBER THAT.

SO THE PARTY THAT YOU'RE THROWING COMES OFF THE BACK OF THE RESIDENCE, NUMBER TWO.

I FIND IT STRANGE THE CITY CAN PAY FOR PARTIES BUT NOT MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE ITS INFRASTRUCTURE.

JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

AT MY HOUSEHOLD, THROWING A PARTY IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS KEEPING THE THINGS UP AND RUNNING.

THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE UNLESS STAFF KNOWS OFFHAND THE THE BUDGET NUMBER FOR THE YEAR FOR CO-SPONSORSHIPS.

DID WE SET A NUMBER THAT YOU ALL RECALL? I KNOW OUR LIMIT PER EVENT IS 10,000 STILL, I BELIEVE.

IS THAT CORRECT? 12 TO 12 CHANGED IT TO 12,000 PER.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY. FRED, DO YOU RECALL OFFHAND FOR THE YEAR AND AND MA'AM.

SO IT'S 12,000 PER.

HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT TO MISCONCEIVE OR MISINTERPRET.

THE CHURCH IS NOT GETTING $12,000.

IT'S A PARTNERSHIP WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEY'RE PAYING FOR HELICOPTER HELICOPTER TO DO THIS.

THEY'RE BRINGING IN DIFFERENT TYPE OF VOLUNTEER HOURS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR OF THAT PRESENTATION OF WHAT IS BEING GIVEN.

I TRULY BELIEVE IN EVENTS SUCH AS 3000 BAGS THAT THEY'VE GIVEN OUT TO OUR CHILDREN.

RIGHT? 3000 GIFT BAGS.

PERHAPS I HAVE A BETTER INSIGHT OF WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT THIS EVENT, AN EVENT OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA PRODUCED OVER 25,000 OF OUR RESIDENTS IN ONE LOCATION.

FOR SIX HOURS, RIGHT IN AND OUT.

LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE SERVING.

WE'RE SERVING 25,000.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE POPULATION IS GOING IS GOING TO BE WITH THIS EXTRAVAGANZA.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I, I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF PROVIDING A VENUE FOR OUR CHILDREN, FOR FAMILIES TO COME TOGETHER AND TO CELEBRATE EASTER AND TO HAVE AN ORGANIZATION SUCH AS EAST WIND.

PENTECOSTAL CHURCH TO COME TOGETHER AND SAY, LISTEN WANTING TO PARTNER WITH ANOTHER CHURCH, THAT TO ME SPEAKS VOLUMES.

GENTLEMEN. SO I AM FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

THE VALUE THAT WE WE RECEIVE.

SUPERSEDES ANYTHING THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH IN MANPOWER AND SUPPORT.

AND I'LL EVEN GO AS FURTHER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

HE MENTIONED LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT I'M THINKING ABOUT OUR FROSTY VAN WHERE OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE VEHICLE OUR

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COMMUNITY RESOURCE UNIT, CAN ACTUALLY BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND GIVE ICE CREAMS OUT SO THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT, THAT WE HAVE THAT COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, FROSTY, AND, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THE CHIEF CAN CAN WEIGH IN ON THAT.

I SEE THE DEPUTY CHIEF NOT IN HIS HEAD GIVING US A BIG THUMBS UP.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD EVEN ADD MORE VALUE.

BECAUSE CHILDREN LOVE ICE CREAM.

I MEAN, I LOVE ICE CREAM.

WE ALL SCREAM FOR ICE CREAM, BUT.

BUT I JUST FEEL THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT PARTNERSHIP IF WE CAN ADD THAT AS WELL.

AND MAKE THAT PART OF, OF THE CELEBRATION, THE CELEBRATION OF EASTER.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO YOU KNOW, I MEAN, GREATLY, GREATLY.

I MEAN, I THINK YOU SAID IT WELL, BUT JUST TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR THE PUBLIC THESE ARE NOT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

WHAT WE'RE USING IS IN-KIND.

EVERYTHING WE DO, IT'S IN-KIND.

I'M LOOKING AT THE LIST.

THE TOTAL COST IN-KIND, 4700.

ALL BLEACHERS ARE SITTING SOMEWHERE IN A WAREHOUSE.

NOT BEING USED.

NOT NOT BY NOT BEING USED.

IT POTENTIALLY CAN CAN, YOU KNOW, GO.

SO IT'S GOOD THAT WE PUT THEM TO USE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, SPACE RENTALS.

SO THESE ARE SPACES THAT'S THERE.

THOSE ARE YOU ARE YOU PAID FOR THEM AS TAXPAYERS.

RIGHT. WHY NOT PUT THEM TO GOOD USE.

RIGHT. WE CANNOT MEASURE THE RETURN ON EVENTS LIKE THIS TO ME.

I MEAN THAT'S WHY THIS COUNCIL SUPPORT ACTIVITIES AS SUCH.

SO KUDOS.

I'M GLAD TO SEE SOME FREE ITEMS ARE GIVING AWAY, BUT IT'S GREAT.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING SUCH EVENT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT JUST ADD TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR KIDS.

THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE THAT IN THE MOTION MIRROR? YEAH. I'M SORRY. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

STAFF DID GIVE ME THE NUMBERS.

OUR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR FOR OUR CO SPONSORSHIPS IS $50,000.

AND THE LIMIT PER IS 12,500.

OKAY, OKAY.

DO WE HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW ABOUT IN LABOR.

HOW MUCH IN LABOR? LIKE TOTAL SO FAR THIS YEAR? YES. I DON'T THINK I HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T COME WITH THE, THE THE TOTAL SUMMARY FOR THE YEAR SO FAR.

YOU KNOW WE DO THAT ANNUAL REVIEW FOR YOU.

WE DID THAT FOR LAST YEAR. BUT I DON'T HAVE THIS YEAR'S RIGHT NOW.

MISS SHERMAN, I CAN ANSWER THAT.

$140 FOR STAGE SETUP AND BREAKDOWN.

NO, HE'S TALKING ABOUT OVERALL.

OVERALL HE'S TALKING FOR THIS EVENT OKAY.

YEAH. NOT FOR THIS EVENT IS VERY LITTLE.

YEAH. VERY VERY MINIMAL.

VERY MINIMAL. SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA MAIER.

YES, SIR. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK.

I WAS GOING TO. OKAY. SORRY, DEPUTY MAYOR, I THINK I'VE SAID IT.

OKAY, OKAY.

COUNCILMAN. YEAH. SORRY, I WAS WAITING.

I WAS WAITING FOR THE MOTION.

SO WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

BUT. PEOPLE WANT TO CLAP FOR BILL BATTEN WHEN THEY AGREE, BUT WHEN IT'S A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO CLAP.

BUT THE TRUTH IS, IT'S $1,755 THAT WERE NOT COLLECTING CORRECT FEE WAIVERS, WERE NOT COLLECTING, AND $3,015 THAT WE'RE FOOTING THE BILL.

WE'RE FOOTING THE BILL.

IT'S IT'S I, I'VE BEEN WRESTLING WITH THIS BACK AND FORTH, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, FEW YEARS, BUT I JUST I CAN'T SUPPORT IT ANYMORE.

I CAN'T SUPPORT IT ANYMORE BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE HAVING A A STORMWATER ASSESSMENT IN THE NORTHEAST WHERE THEY PAY FOR IT.

BUT IN THE SOUTHEAST, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SEEING I'M NOT SEEING IT RIGHT HERE.

SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT.

MAYOR, JUST I'M BEING CLEAR.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE MY STANCE FROM NOW ON.

SO YOU'RE HERE.

THANK YOU. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

CARRY ON. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I'M SORRY TO CUT.

YOU KNOW, I GO AHEAD.

I THINK I LOOK AT THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

EASTER. WHAT IS THE CELEBRATION OF EASTER? AND MOST CHRISTIANS, THAT'S THE MOST.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. MAYOR, ON EASTER IS THE MOST.

YOUR CHURCH IS PACKED, ISN'T IT? SIR, WE CELEBRATE THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST.

YES. AND YOUR CHURCH IS PACKED WITH CHRISTIANS WHO WANT TO CELEBRATE THAT RECORD.

AND THEY. AND YOUR COLLECTION IS PRETTY, PRETTY PACKED TOO.

ON, ON ON EASTER.

WE DONATE TO CELEBRATE CHRIST.

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WE DONATE FINANCIALLY AT LEAST.

I DONATED EVERY CHURCH I GO TO ON EASTER.

THEY COLLECT A PRETTY GOOD.

THE PLATES PASSED AROUND MORE THAN ONE TIME.

WHY DID I? WHAT WAS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO GET TO? YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS YOU JUST GOT TO PAY FOR.

AND. IS ABOUT TO CELEBRATE CELEBRATION OF THE RESURRECTION OF CHRIST AND ABOUT OUR KIDS TO TEACH THEM THE WHAT EASTER IS ALL ABOUT.

THIS IS A POSITIVE THING IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND AND I WILL ALWAYS COME OUT OF MY BACK POCKET TO PAY FOR SOMETHING POSITIVE.

AND I THINK THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY SHOULD DO THAT.

WE, WE CALL OURSELVES THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD, AND WE DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR EASTER.

WE PAY FOR THE CHRISTMAS KWANZAA I VOTED.

ALL THE TIME FOR THAT.

WHY WOULD I DO IT FOR EASTER? I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO MUCH OF A COST TO PAY FOR IT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT COSTS THE TAXPAYER, YOU KNOW, EACH TAXPAYER IN PALM BAY $1,000 TO HAVE THIS DONE.

NO. DON'T COST THAT MUCH.

MIGHT COST ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, TEN $0.15.

IF YOU PUT ALL THE MONEY TO PUT IT'S GOING TO COST THE CITY TO PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO GET ON YOU, MR. JOHNSON. I'M JUST. THAT'S JUST.

I'M JUST EXPRESSING MY OPINION.

I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT.

I LIKE IT, IT'S GEARED TOWARDS A MEANINGFUL HOLIDAY.

AND IT'S GEARED TOWARDS KIDS AND IT MAKES OUR CITY BETTER AND WE BETTER FOR IT, I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE NEXT ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM SUPPORTING OUR ASD KIDS OR SOC FOR ITS ANNUAL GET SOAKED FOR AUTISM EVENT ON APRIL 6TH AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK AS WELL.

HI, I'M CAMMY LAMBERT.

I'M PART OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR SUPPORTING OUR ASD KIDS INCORPORATED.

OUR ORGANIZATION HAS THE PURPOSE TO HELP INDIVIDUALS DIAGNOSED WITH AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER AND RELATED DISABILITIES AND THEIR FAMILIES.

CAN YOU SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC, MA'AM? SOMEHOW? SURE. THANK YOU. SORRY.

SO WE ARE AN AUTISM SUPPORT GROUP FOR FAMILIES IN BREVARD COUNTY.

WE BEGAN AS A PARENT BASED GROUP IN 2011, AND IN 2015 WE BECAME A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION. WE DO RESOURCE FOR PARENTS.

WE'VE GOT A FACEBOOK PAGE, WE'VE GOT TRAININGS THAT GO ON AND SO FORTH.

DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS AND THE FAMILIES AROUND THE THE COUNTY.

OUR GET SOAKED EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE ON APRIL 6TH, 2024.

WE'RE HOPING AT FRED PERRY PARK.

AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR CO SPONSORSHIP FOR THIS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO PROVIDING OUR LOCAL ASD FAMILIES WITH A FREE DAY OF WATER FUN.

OUR EVENT WILL INCLUDE BOUNCE HOUSES, WATER SLIDES OTHER WATER ACTIVITIES, A LIVE BAND, PHOTOS WITH CHARACTERS AND FREE SNACKS AND OUR OWN BREVARD COUNTY AND PALM BAY FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE ASKING FOR SPONSORS OR I'M SORRY, WE HAVE SPONSORS FROM OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY AND ARE ASKING FOR YOUR SPONSORSHIP, WHICH WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

I'M SORRY. I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, AND I'M.

YOU'RE FINE. YOU'RE FINE.

BUT ANYWAY SO WE HOPE TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

YEAH. YOU USED TO DO THIS PRIOR TO COVID.

YES. I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE COMING BACK.

YEAH, WE HAD TO TAKE A BREAK.

YEAH, FOR OUR SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN.

YES. AND I'VE BEEN TO YOUR EVENT BEFORE I CAME ON THIS BIAS OR DAIS, AND THEN I SEE SO I KNOW THAT YOU WERE SITTING HERE BACK IN THOSE DAYS, AND YOU, YOU HAD YOU HAD APPROVED THOSE.

I REMEMBER VISITING ON, ON A FEW OCCASIONS REPRESENTING ANOTHER ELECTED OFFICIAL REGARDING SOAK

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AND WHAT I SAW YOU DO WITH THE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN THAT ARE NONVERBAL AND SENSITIVE TO SOUND.

AND, AND YOU GIVEN THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY OUR PARKS, OUR GREEN SPACE.

SO I, I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT OF WHAT YOU DID COLLECTIVELY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT.

I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU'RE BACK.

BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A NEED FOR THOSE CHILDREN TO TO BE OUT COLLECTIVELY AND, AND COMMUNICATING WITH ONE ANOTHER AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU, MAN.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES IT DOES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? NO. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? MAYOR? SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS EVENT.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MEASURE.

YOU CANNOT MEASURE THIS, THIS TYPE OF EVENT BRING SO MUCH VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S WHY FAMILY FAMILIES MOVE TO COMMUNITIES.

BECAUSE OF RECREATION.

RECREATION IS A BIG PART OF IT.

THEY LOOKED AS TO YOU KNOW, THIS AN EVENT LIKE THAT WOULD SPEAK VOLUME TO THIS COMMUNITY.

SO FOR THIS REASON, I WOULD SUPPORT IT.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

THAT'S OKAY. CARRY ON.

THAT'S SO MOVED, I SECOND IT.

ANY COUNCILMAN, FOSTER, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? YEAH. WHEN IT COMES TO SUPPORTING OUR KIDS, WE NEED TO.

WE NEED TO STAND BY THEM.

AUTISTIC KIDS ARE VERY SPECIAL, AND WE NEED TO.

THEY NEED TO HAVE A LIFE JUST LIKE A REGULAR KID.

AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS IN OUR CITY.

WE CAN'T LEAVE. NO, WE CANNOT LEAVE.

NO ONE BEHIND.

NO CHILD BEHIND.

NO CHILD. NO MATTER WHAT THE SITUATION, NO MATTER WHAT THE HELL.

WHAT MAKES.

WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY WILL BE.

THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED THE LAST PROJECT.

WHAT KIND OF SOCIETY WE BE? SO I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.

I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH BECAUSE I GET KIND OF THANK YOU UPSET.

SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH.

WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ANYTHING.

I'M GONNA JUMP IN THERE. I'M.

I'M A I'M GONNA JUMP IN BECAUSE I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO REALLY, JUST REALLY THINK ON IT.

LIKE IF IT WERE A ORGANIZATION THAT YOU DIDN'T SUPPORT, WOULD YOU STILL VOTE YES FOR IT? LIKE, THAT'S WHY THAT'S HOW I WANT YOU TO THINK ON IT.

LIKE, I, I SUPPORT THIS ORGANIZATION.

I SUPPORT THE OTHER ONE. BUT I WANT YOU TO ASK YOURSELF, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR BURNING BOOKS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE? THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO LOOK AT THESE ITEMS, LIKE, BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GETTING CAUGHT ON THE EMOTIONAL PART OF IT AND NOT THE FINANCIAL OR FISCAL OR THE LOGICAL PART OF IT. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING WITH THIS MAYOR, WITH COUNCIL, I JUST I'M SEEING IT AND I'VE BEEN CONFLICTED WITH IT, BUT I'M SEEING IT MORE AND I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. BATTEN.

SO I APPRECIATE HIS INSIGHT ON IT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ALL. THANK THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR.

FELIX. SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER 11, MISS SMITH.

AYE, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

YES, SIR. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN AND 11.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY IN SUCH A MATTER WILL SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGREED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY THAT HAS COMPLIED WITH SECTION 59.03. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

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EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

RESOLUTION 2020 4-07, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RETAIL, AUTOMOTIVE, GAS, FUEL SALES AND CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BABCOCK STREET AND VALKARIA ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE. PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT ITS CASE.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS CARMINE FERRARO, CROSSOVER COMMERCIAL GROUP.

I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, SUMMIT SHORE SUNSHINE PETRO, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE CORNER OF VALKARIA AND BABCOCK ROAD.

WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TO YOU BEFORE.

THIS IS OUR THIRD TIME COMING BACK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE SITE PLAN FINALLY APPROVED, AND THE TIME CLOCK RAN OUT ON THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO STAFF PUT THE PROJECT ON HOLD AND TOLD US WE NEEDED TO COME BACK AND APPLY FOR A NEW PERMIT, A NEW CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO NOTHING'S CHANGED.

WE HAVE NOBODY THAT HAS BEEN OPPOSED TO IT.

WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO RENEW THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SO THEY WILL OPEN UP THE SITE PLAN PERMIT AGAIN AND ALLOW IT TO BE COMPLETED. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OF THEM.

YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE TIMELINE IF YOU GET THE CUP THIS TIME? ONE YEAR. OKAY.

AND WHEN DO YOU THINK? YOU'LL BE ABLE TO EXECUTE.

THE OWNER IS CONFIDENT AT THIS POINT BASED ON THE CURRENT CONDITIONS OF MARKET, THE POTENTIAL USER THAT'S COMING IN THERE, WHICH IS A NATIONAL BRAND GAS STATION, THAT COMMITMENT IS IN PLACE.

THEY ARE CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THIS TIME.

I MEAN, THEY KEEP PAYING FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.

THEY NEED TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD THE PROPERTY AND THAT'S THEIR INTENTION.

AND I GET THAT, SIR. BUT MY QUESTION WAS LIKE, WHEN DO YOU THINK HE'LL BE ABLE TO EXECUTE? EXECUTE. LIKE.

LIKE WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS TIMELINE LIKE? YOU HAVE A WHOLE YEAR.

SIX MONTHS IN OR EIGHT MONTHS IN OR TEN MONTHS, RIGHT? SO WE ARE, I BELIEVE, ABOUT 50% THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

SO AS SOON AS THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED, THEY'RE GOING TO GO OUT FOR CONSTRUCTION BIDS AND THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION.

THE CP REQUIRES THEM TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION PRIOR TO THE EXPIRATION DATE OF THE CUP.

SO THAT IS THE INTENT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

OKAY. SO SAY 90 DAYS THREE MONTHS OKAY.

90 DAYS WOULD BE A VERY FAIR ASSUMPTION.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT.

THAT ANSWER. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? COUNCIL KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAY MR..

I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS I'M DRESSING ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS THAT THIS INTERSECTION IS AN OFFSET INTERSECTION.

THE LINES DON'T ALIGN UP WITH THE EAST AND WEST TRAFFIC, SO THE INTERSECTIONS ARE OFFSETS.

SO THAT GENERATES A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION FOR THE PEOPLE MAKING RIGHT TURNS, LEFT TURNS AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF.

THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION, PLUS THE FACT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT EXPANSION ON BABCOCK.

THAT'S ONE THING.

THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT THIS IS GENERATING IS THAT THE VALKARIA ROAD, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT CITY.

SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON AN INTERSECTION WITH MULTIPLE IDENTITIES, ON TRYING TO SOLVE THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

I CAN JUST SEE BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME PROBLEMS. I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A GOOD IDENTITY OR A BAD IDENTITY.

I LIKE THE I LIKE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE TAX REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY OFF THIS VACANT LAND.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO BE HAVING ENTRANCE AND EXIT INTO THIS GAS STATION RIGHT ON THIS OFFSET INTERSECTION, WHICH GENERATES PROBLEMS. AND BECAUSE I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF BABCOCK, IF WE'RE BUILDING LOOKING AT THEIR PLANS, THEY'RE BUILDING RIGHT UP TO THE ROAD, WHERE'S THE EXPANSION OF THESE TWO ROADS GOING TO BE COMING? IF WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE ESTABLISHMENT BUILDINGS ON THAT LAND THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH.

THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS ALL ON YOU GUYS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER SPEAKERS WOULD YOU WANT TO REBUT THAT, SIR?

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SURE. AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, OF COURSE.

WE'RE WORKING WITH STAFF.

WE WERE REQUESTED TO PERFORM A TRAFFIC STUDY.

WE HIRED A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT TRAFFIC ENGINEER, AND THEY ARE WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE ACCORDING TO CODE AND SAFE AND EFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE FIRE SAFETY TRUCKS.

IN TERMS OF THERE ARE TWO ADDITIONAL GOVERNMENT GROUPS.

ONE WOULD BE BREVARD COUNTY AND THE OTHER WOULD BE GRANT-VALKARIA.

THEY ARE ALSO INVOLVED IN BECAUSE THIS AFFECTS THEM AS WELL.

REGARDING THE LINING UP OF THE ROAD, I DON'T KNOW IF I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I BELIEVE THE ROADS WERE RECENTLY CHANGED AND LINED UP AND THERE IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THERE.

BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID, THE SITE PLAN STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH STAFF'S REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AND IT WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE CODE STANDARDS TO COMPLY IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC SAFETY.

THANK YOU. YEAH. I NOTICED YOU HAVE, LIKE, A DRIVE THROUGH SETUP FOR A COFFEE SHOP OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND THEN YOU HAVE AN EXIT ON TO BABCOCK AND AN ENTRANCE FROM VALKARIA.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HERE AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NOTHING.

ALL COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. ANY. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM O.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]

WE'RE ON OUR CONSENT O.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR. AS MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ANY ANYONE PULLED ANYTHING? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO INCLUDE THAT IN MY.

OKAY. COPY THAT, COPY THAT.

CARRY ON. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE FOLLOWING SIX, 11, 12 AND 13, SIX, 11, 12 AND 13.

MAYOR WANTS TO PULL ITEM NUMBER NINE.

ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU WISH TO PULL? OKAY. SEEING SO AT ITEM NINE TO THAT ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

I'M SORRY, MAYOR, WHO SECONDED THE MOTION? SECOND. OH, KENT. KENT, CAN YOU SECOND IT? I THOUGHT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DID.

I'M SORRY. CARRY ON THE MOTION.

DID YOU SECOND? I SECOND.

OH, IT WAS FOSTER THE SECOND.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER SECOND.

IT, MA'AM. I KNEW I HEARD IT FROM THAT.

YES, SIR. OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW.

ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE.

ORDINANCE 2020 406, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE SITE 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 13, BLOCK 745, PORT MALABAR.

UNIT 16 ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15, PAGE 97, THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

HI. GOOD EVENING, JAMES JOHNSTON WITH SCHUTZ AND BOWEN, 300 SOUTH ORANGE AVENUE, ORLANDO.

ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.

WE APPRECIATE STAFF'S WORK ON THIS, AND WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE STAFF REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION FOR THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF THE PLATTED EASEMENT. AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

SIR. ANY SPEAKER CARDS ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP RIGHT UP, MASTER CHIEF.

THIS DILEMMA IS A RESULT OF A FAILURE ON THE SURVEYOR'S PART RIGHT NOW.

AND IT WASN'T JUST ONE SURVEY FAILURE.

IT WAS MULTIPLE SURVEY FAILURES THAT LED US TO THIS DILEMMA.

AND SO. MY QUESTION IS, HOW DID THAT HOW DID WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE KEEP HAVING THE SAME FAILURE REPEATEDLY ON A SURVEY? AND SO THAT GENERATES ONE MORE QUESTION, BECAUSE WE'RE RELYING ON THE SURVEYS THAT ARE BEING TAKEN, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT DETERMINES THE ELEVATION OF PROPERTIES, ALONG WITH THE

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PLOT LAYOUT THAT DETERMINES THE AMOUNT OF RUNOFF THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING ON PROPERTIES.

SO IF THE SURVEY IS WRONG IN THE BEGINNING, REGARDLESS OF IT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE PLACEMENT OF A BUILDING OR WHATEVER, WE'RE STILL RELYING ON THESE SURVEYS, WHICH IS PART OF THE ELEVATION WHEN WE'RE HAVING THESE ELEVATION PROBLEMS. SO I KNOW WE CAN'T GO BACK AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT WAS A PAST.

IT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE NOW.

BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE DILEMMAS THAT WE'RE SEEING BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT SURVEYS COME IN.

WE'LL HAVE THE CITY SURVEYS.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE THE THE REPRESENTATIVE SURVEYS THAT COME IN BY THE TIME THE BUILDING IS DONE.

WE DON'T KNOW. BUT YET NOW WE'RE HAVING HOMES THAT AFTER THE SURVEYS AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY ARE NOW FLOODING BASED ON THE SURVEY PLOT AND THE ELEVATION PLOTS.

SO IT'S GENERATING A PROBLEM.

AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF.

HOW YOU GO ABOUT SOLVING THAT.

YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T HOLD THE SERVING.

CAN YOU HOLD THE SURVEY COMPANY RESPONSIBLE? THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND CORRECT IT.

OR DO YOU THEN COME BACK AND SAY, WE JUST GET A VARIANCE AND WE PROCEED WITH TAINTED MILK? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, I'LL JUST READ IT OUT RELATED TO HOW THIS SITUATION OCCURRED.

IT STARTED WITH THE HOME BUILDERS ENGINEERING SURVEYING COMPANY MISLABELING THE WESTERLY 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT AS BEING ONLY A SIX FOOT EASEMENT ON THE LOT DRAINAGE AND SITE PLANS.

THE OUTSIDE ENGINEERING FIRM CONTRACT WITH THE CITY HIRED TO REVIEW THOSE LOT DRAINAGE PLANS DID NOT PICK UP ON THE ERROR DURING THEIR PLAN REVIEW.

IT WAS NOT UNTIL THE HOUSE WAS OVER 80% COMPLETE BEFORE IN-HOUSE STAFF REALIZED THE OVERSIGHT.

YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING WE DO AND ALL THE REVIEWS WE DO IS PERFECT.

BUT IN THIS CASE, WE MADE A MISTAKE AND WE MISSED IT.

OUR OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR MISSED IT.

OUR STAFF FOUND IT LATER ON.

THE WAY THE PROCESS WORKS WHEN YOU FILE FOR ONE OF THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR RECORDS AND WE'RE COMPARING IT TO WHAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED.

AND OFTEN WE CATCH THESE MISTAKES AND WE DO CORRECT THEM, BUT WE SOMETIMES WILL MAKE MISTAKES AND NOT CATCH EVERYTHING.

THAT WAS THE CASE IN THIS SITUATION.

SO IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK TO DO OUR JOBS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITIES.

BUT ONCE IN A WHILE, THINGS LIKE THIS WILL WILL UNFORTUNATELY SLIP THROUGH.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

NO, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW OFTEN THIS MAY HAVE OCCURRED ON EITHER WAY, BECAUSE WE STILL GOT MORE CITY GOING.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN TRY TO, YOU KNOW, WE FOUND FOUND A SMALL CRACK.

LET'S JUST RESOLVE IT, FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND GO FROM THERE.

SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN. THANK YOU. SUZANNE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

NO, NO, NO, I'M SAYING THANK YOU.

OKAY. I'M SAYING THANK YOU.

OKAY. WELL, SHE'S LOOKING OKAY.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2020 407, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE, SUBCHAPTER SUPPLEMENTARY DISTRICT REGULATIONS A MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO USES, SETBACKS, AND METAL BUILDINGS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

YES, MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL HEARING FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE DISCUSSED.

LAST MEETING TO A METAL BUILDINGS BEING ALLOWED IN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP RIGHT UP, SIR.

MARSHALL. EUGENE MURPHY, 712 DAMASCUS AVENUE SOUTHWEST.

I'M JUST SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED AS I'M TRYING TO GET A.

A METAL STRUCTURE PUT UP MYSELF.

AND AS FAR AS ALL THE.

WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING FOR.

I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO DO IT JUST LIKE WHAT THEY WANT.

BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ONE STEP ABOVE THAT.

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AS FAR AS THE NORMALLY ON DETACHED BUILDINGS, THEY HAVE LIKE A LITTLE ROLL, A ROLL DOWN DOOR THAT LOOKS KIND OF INDUSTRIAL.

AND I'M PLANNING ON PUTTING A REGULAR GARAGE DOOR THAT EXACTLY MATCHES THE GARAGE DOOR ON THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE TO MAKE IT MORE ESTHETICALLY APPEALING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M I'M IN FAVOR FOR IT.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MADAM SMITH. YES, SIR.

THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL ORDER FOR THE DENIAL OF THE ORDINANCE.

2020 4-04.

THERE WAS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT PROPOSED INCREASING THE NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES.

THE COUNCIL DENIED THAT.

AND TYPICALLY WHEN THERE IS A DENIAL, WE'LL HAVE ME COME BACK AND PROVIDE AN ORDER FOR YOU, BECAUSE THE SYSTEM WITH FLORIDA STATUTES, IF YOU APPROVE SOMETHING, YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE.

IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DENY IT, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE FINDINGS OF FACTS AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW.

AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS SO THE A PARTY TO PROCEEDING COULD ACTUALLY APPEAL.

HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT CONTACTED ME WITH SHORTLY THERE AFTER THIS AND INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ATTEMPT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ORIGINAL NUMBER OF HOMES, WHICH WAS THE, I BELIEVE, 92, AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN.

AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN WOULD BE WITHIN THE 20% THRESHOLD THAT WOULD ALLOW ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, WHICH IS WHY LAST MEETING IT WAS CONTINUED.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THAT SITE PLAN TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

WE JUST FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, WE PROVIDED A COPY OF THAT OF SITE PLAN AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR'S MEMO.

BUT WHAT YOU ARE HERE TO CONSIDER IS THEIR AGREEMENT IS THAT AT THIS POINT, IT'S MOOT.

WE COULD GO THROUGH ALL THE REASONS WHY YOU DENIED THE 126 UNIT TOWNHOME, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER AT THIS POINT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SEEKING TO APPEAL.

THEY ARE WAIVING THEIR RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO CHALLENGE THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE ORIGINAL 92.

SO THIS FINDING MOOT DOESN'T GIVE THEM ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHTS.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING ELSE.

ALL IT SAYS IS INSTEAD OF YOU ALL GOING THROUGH ONE OF THESE ORDERS IN WHICH I REVIEW THE RECORD REVIEW WHO TESTIFIED TO WHAT, WHAT DOCUMENTS WERE IN THERE, WHAT PART OF THE COMP PLAN? WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT APPEALING.

THAT'S ALL THIS DOES.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY? COUNCIL. NO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? STEP RIGHT UP, SIR.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

AND IT'S ON THIS WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.

YES. OKAY.

YES. PETER MULLINS, FOUR SIX BRECKENRIDGE CIRCUS SOUTHEAST.

LET ME JUST START BY SAYING THAT I THANK THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY LISA FRASER AND TINA RAMOS, FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THEY HAVE DONE IN DEALING WITH DEVELOPERS WHILE FINDING TIME TO ASSIST RESIDENTS WHO ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK COUNCIL.

WHO LISTENS TO OUR TO THE RESIDENTS AND APPLY PROPER AND COMMON SENSE IN DOING THE RIGHT THING.

ONE THING I'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROCESS IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GUIDED BY CODES, DEVELOPERS HAS USED THOSE CODES AGAINST US.

AT THE LAST MEETING, THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPER REPRESENTATIVE STATED OVER AND OVER HOW THEY ARE WITHIN THE WITHIN THE CODES.

THEY EVEN THREW IT IN OUR FACE BY SAYING THAT THEY COULD HAVE BUILT 400 UNITS IN THE SAME PARCEL OF LAND, BUT ONLY WANTED TO BUILD 126. EVEN THOUGH THE PLOT WAS APPROVED FOR ONLY 92 UNITS BACK IN 2006.

MY QUESTION, AND IT MAY BE RHETORICAL, WHY IS THE DEVELOPER ALLOWED TO SUBMIT CHANGES FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO? WHY DON'T THE CODES PROVIDE FOR A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TIME TO BUILD?

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I MAY BE WRONG, BUT IT APPEARS THAT THIS DEVELOPER DOESN'T WANT TO BUILD NOW, SINCE THEY SINCE THEY THEY THEY HAVE COME BACK SINCE WELL, NOW SINCE THEY CAN COME BACK NEXT YEAR, FIVE YEARS OR EVEN TEN YEARS FROM NOW AND SUBMIT ANOTHER CHANGE FOR A HIGHER DENSITY TO DEVELOPMENT.

ALLOW IT. IF WE IF WE RECALL, DEVELOPERS STATED THAT THE BUILDING, THAT BUILDING ONLY 92 UNITS WAS NOT FEASIBLE AND WOULD NOT WORK.

WHAT HAS CHANGED? WHAT? THAT GIVES THEM THE GREEN LIGHT FOR THEM TO NOW CLAIM THAT BUILDING OWNING 92 UNITS IS OKAY.

ARE WE IN FOR A SURPRISE? THERE IS A WHISPER IN THE EAR THAT WE MAY SEE ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO REZONE THE GOLF COURSE IN BAYSIDE.

I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO HAVE GROWTH MANAGEMENT TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE CODES AND SEE THE POTENTIAL LOOPHOLES THAT DEVELOPERS ARE MANIPULATING.

DEVELOPERS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE WELL-BEING OF PALM BAY.

IF WE CONTINUE DOWN THIS PATH, PALM BAY WILL BECOME AN URBAN SPRAWL.

THEN, WITH PALM BAY BE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

I KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS CHANGED YOUR MIND, AND SO IT'S MUTE THAT WE DISCUSS ABOUT THE DENIAL.

BUT WE SHOULD THINK WHAT ARE THEIR INTENTIONS? ARE THEY PLANNING ON BUILDING ARE COMING BACK LATER.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP RIGHT UP, SIR. JUST BEFORE YOU START THE CLOCK, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY FRIEND PETER SAID ABOUT THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT OFFICE.

ANYONE. EXCUSE ME.

HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR OUR INQUIRING TO THIS OFFICE WHEN THIS PROJECT, WHEN WE FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT WE WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN WHAT THE HELL WAS GOING ON IN BAYSIDE AT ALL.

SO WE HAVE KNOWN THAT THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A PROJECT DEVELOPMENT OF 92 TOWNHOMES, VILLA STYLE TOWNHOMES, ORIGINALLY APPROVED BACK IN 2006, ROUGHLY WHEN THIS BAYSIDE WAS CREATED.

WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE BUILDER CONSISTENTLY SINCE HIS APPLICATION THAT HE COULD NOT DO THIS PROJECT FOR 92 UNITS, IT WAS FINANCIALLY IMPOSSIBLE. WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH THE BUILDER, SEVERAL OF US, INCLUDING MR. MULLINS, IN JULY, AND HE EMPHATICALLY SAID, I WILL NOT AND CANNOT BUILD 92 UNITS AND MAKE THIS PROJECT FEASIBLE.

AND YET THE COUNCIL VOTED IN JANUARY TO DENY THE 126, AND WE WERE EXPECTING A FINAL VOTE TO DENY THAT PROJECT AS IT STACKED.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S MOOT.

I THINK IT IS GAMESMANSHIP AND LEGAL MANEUVERING.

SO WE WERE EXPECTING THAT THIS WOULD BE DENIED.

AND THEN IF THE BUILDER WANTED TO COME BACK, THEY COULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND RESUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION.

WELL, WE FOUND OUT THAT THEY SUBMITTED A NEW PLAN AND VOILA, 92 UNITS.

HOW ABOUT THAT? NOW. SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS HOW COULD THEY NOT? HOW COULD THEY MAKE IT WORK NOW WITH 92? AND THEY COULDN'T DO IT A YEAR AGO WITH 92.

THEY DID MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT MAKE THE UNITS LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE RESIDENTIAL THAN THE WAREHOUSES THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING INITIALLY.

AND IF YOU SAW THE PICTURES OF THOSE, YOU WOULDN'T PAY $350,000 TO LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE EITHER.

SO MY QUESTION TONIGHT IS SIMPLY THIS.

IF THE CANAL COUNCIL DENIES THIS PROJECT AGAIN, DOES THE BUILDER HAVE ANOTHER OPTION TO COME BACK AND MAKE MORE CHANGES? WOULD THERE BE A SECOND HEARING TO CONFIRM YOUR VOTE TO DENY? AND HOW LONG WILL THIS PROCESS CONTINUE? THIS LEGAL PING PONG MATCH THAT'S GOING ON BETWEEN THE LAWYERS? BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE DARK.

UNLESS WE THE RESIDENTS, WE LIVE THERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON UNLESS WE ASK SOMEBODY IN THE CITY.

IF YOU APPROVE THE PROJECT, THEN IS THERE A SUBSEQUENT VOTE TO BILL TO CONFIRM? WILL THE COUNCIL AND THE BUILDER COMMIT TO ME PUBLICLY AND THE RESIDENTS TONIGHT, THAT THEY WILL NOT MAKE MORE CHANGES IF IT'S APPROVED? AND FINALLY, HOW WILL WE BE INFORMED AS THE RESIDENTS? BECAUSE THE CODE SAYS YOU ONLY HAVE TO NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN 500FT.

WELL, THERE'S 375 HOMES IN BAYSIDE, SO WE ARE RELYING ON YOU, OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES, TO BE OUR ADVOCATES.

BECAUSE WE CAN'T HIRE LAWYERS, WE CAN'T HIRE PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS.

WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT THE BUILDER DOES.

SO I'M ASKING YOU MAKE GOOD CHOICES.

I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE AT IN THAT PROCESS.

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BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED WITH IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO COME BACK.

AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR THEIR SENTIMENT ABOUT THE LEGAL POSTURING OF ATTORNEYS AND, AND THE APPREHENSION OF OF OF THOSE SITUATIONS.

RIGHT. I'M PUTTING MYSELF IN THEIR SHOES.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S SO MUCH APPREHENSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE ATTORNEY LINGO AND THE WAY ATTORNEYS COMMUNICATE WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO PERHAPS, LISA OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, MADAM SHERMAN, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY COULD SHED SOME LIGHT ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THIS PROJECT.

IN RELATION TO THEIR THEIR CONCERNS OF THEM PAUSING IT TEMPORARILY AND WANTING TO COME BACK TO TRY AND INCREASE IT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

I'M HEARING THERE'S SUCH A LEVEL OF APPREHENSION.

SO I LIKE TO TRY AND ADDRESS THOSE IF WE CAN.

OKAY. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO FIRST CLEAR MAKE CLEAR IS COUNCIL DENIED THIS PROJECT.

THE DENIAL ISN'T CHANGING.

COUNCIL IS NOT RECONSIDERING THEIR OPINION.

COUNCIL ALL COUNCIL IS SAYING IS WE DON'T HAVE TO GO DO A FIVE PAGE, YOU KNOW, ORDER WITH, YOU KNOW, FINDINGS OF FACT SAYING WHY WE DENIED IT. SO THE DENIAL IS STILL THERE.

THE DENIAL DOESN'T CHANGE.

THEY STILL CANNOT COME BACK WITHIN 12 MONTHS WITH THE SAME OR SIMILAR PROJECT.

THEY'VE DECIDED THEY DON'T NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.

THEY DON'T WANT TO APPEAL.

THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK UNDER THE CURRENT CODE THAT ALLOWS THEM TO SEEK ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES, SO LONG AS IT'S NOT ABOVE 20.

THIS IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TODAY DOESN'T AFFECT WHETHER THEY CAN COME BACK.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT WHETHER THEY CAN GO ADMINISTRATIVELY.

THEY COULD HAVE DONE THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW INSTEAD OF DOING THIS, WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO FOR WHATEVER REASONS.

WELL, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THE REASONS IS TO SEE IF THEY CAN INCREASE DENSITY.

THEY TRIED IT AND FAILED, SO THEY MOVED ON.

THAT'S ALL THAT HAPPENED.

AS FAR AS LEGALLY THEY HAVE.

NO, THEY'VE DECIDED WE'RE NOT APPEALING THIS.

COUNCIL SAID NO AND THEY'VE GIVEN UP AS FAR AS THE 126.

AND THEY'RE SEEKING TO MAKE IT WORK WITH THE 92.

AND THEY'RE DOING THAT IN PART.

AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR CAN SPEAK MORE TO THIS BY MAKING THE HOMES BIGGER, TO BE ABLE TO GET SET UP, GET AN INCREASED VALUE.

BUT SHE CAN SPEAK MORE TO AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CHANGES THAT THEY'VE PROPOSED.

BUT AS FAR AS LEGALLY, LEGALLY IT IS, THEY'RE DONE WITH THIS CASE.

THEY'RE NOT APPEALING IT.

SO IT'S DONE. COUNCIL DENIED.

AND THE DENIAL WILL BE FINAL.

THANK YOU MA'AM. I HOPE THAT MAKES IT A LITTLE CLEARER.

SO WHAT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I HAVE TWO MORE OR THREE MORE.

STEP RIGHT UP IN LINE.

YOU'RE FIRST.

GENTLEMAN WITH THE HAT.

YOUR SECOND. AND THEN, MR. CHIEF, YOUR THIRD. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO ASK, IS RICHARDS ALREADY SPOKEN? RICHARD? WHO'S RICHARD? HE LEFT.

RICHARD. LEFT. OKAY. CARRY ON.

SIR. HI. LARRY GODWIN 19.

YOU'RE CLOSER TO THE MIC.

LARRY. LARRY GODWIN, 1941 THORNWOOD DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.

BAYSIDE LAKES.

THE ORIGINAL PLAN AT 2006 WAS FOR SINGLE STORY VILLAS, WHICH IS MORE CONDUCIVE.

TO THE COMMUNITY WE LIVE IN, WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING FORTH NOW, THE CHANGE, THE 92.

92 IS GOOD.

THE TWO STORY, IT DOESN'T EVEN MATCH ANYTHING AROUND US.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE BARRACKS THAT I WAS IN IN 1968.

SO SPEAKING ON MY BEHALF AND THE CITIZENS OF THE HOMEOWNERS, WE DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD CHANGE WHAT WAS APPROVED IN 2006 PERIOD. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

YOU'RE NEXT. MAYOR, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I'M HEARING WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING.

WE COUNCIL HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PLAN EITHER, SO.

WELL, I HAVEN'T, SO.

JACQUES SAINT-CYR FOR 80 GARDENDALE CIRCLE SOUTHEAST.

THAT'S MONTEREY COVE, ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS BEHIND THE CONDOS.

MY CONCERN IS THE ELEVATIONS OF THE OF THE BUILDINGS.

MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEW ELEVATIONS, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT DOES NOT ISN'T THE SAME AS IN THE REST OF THE PUD.

THE PUD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 99 OR WHATEVER FOR BAYSIDE LAKES, AND IT HAD RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE DESIGN OF THE THE BUILDINGS, THE HOUSES.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT ISN'T THE SAME DESIGN, IT ISN'T THE DESIGN THAT'S IN FAR IN THE PLAYERS CLUB OR THE OTHER

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BUILDINGS OVER THERE THAT ARE CONDOS.

AND IF IT ISN'T AND IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE REST OF BAYSIDE, I'M AGAINST IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS A CASE WHERE.

THE ACTIONS ARE WHAT IS BEING JUDGED MORE SO THAN THE LAYOUT OF THE PLAN.

THAT'S BY MY OPINION, RIGHT? THIS RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY WERE SO HAPPY WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL DENIED A DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE REQUESTING.

THAT'S WHAT WE EXPECTED TO SEE.

THAT'S WHAT THEY EXPECTED TO SEE FROM THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS.

AND SO BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE, OVER THE MANY, MANY YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN COMING TO THESE CITY COUNCILS, THAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL SAY, OKAY, WELL, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.

WE DIDN'T GET WHAT WE WANTED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK WITH A MINOR CHANGE, RIGHT? IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, THE MINOR CHANGE WAS LESS THAN 20%.

YOU'RE GOING TO MEET THE CRITERIA THAT WAS NECESSARY.

WELL, BUT THEN THAT TURNS INTO THE PLOY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENT, BY MY OPINION, THAT'S WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING HAPPENING NOW.

IT'S THESE DEVELOPERS JUST USING THAT LITTLE BIT OF A PLOY TO KEEP THINGS GOING.

SO MY ON MY ACTUAL STATEMENTS I PUT DOWN, THIS WAS FOR A FINAL ORDER FOR DISAPPROVAL, THEN LET THEM GO ABOUT THEIR ENTIRE PLANS AS THEY NEED TO, BUT THEY HAVE TO WAIT ONE YEAR BEFORE THEY CAN RESUBMIT.

ONCE YOU DENY A PLAN, IF I'M READING THIS CORRECTLY OR WHAT I AS I INTERPRET THE ORDINANCES.

SO IF YOU DENY IT TONIGHT, YOU'RE MEETING THE NEEDS OF WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTED FROM THE RESIDENTS OFFICIALS.

JUST GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE YOUR ORDER OF DENIAL, AND THEN WATCH AND WAIT AND MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPERS DON'T TRY TO COME BACK IN NEXT MONTH WITH A NEW CHANGE.

THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE NICE.

IT'S ALL IT'S 100% PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING AT YOU AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKS.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU PROCEED WITH YOUR FINAL DENIAL ORDER.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SIDE? OKAY. MADAM ATTORNEY, THERE ARE TWO THINGS HERE.

AND I THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE MISS FRAZIER COME UP.

TO ASK MADAM SHERMAN.

YOU WANT HER NOW? YES.

YES, SIR. LISA, COME ON UP.

SHE SAID, WELL, I'LL COUNT THEM FOR YOU.

THEY'RE $20 EACH.

THAT'S FINE. I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND.

HOW CAN I ASSIST YOU? SO MY QUESTION, MA'AM, IS THERE'S A 20% THAT THEY CAN LEGALLY DO GO THROUGH, RIGHT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT IS IT? ENTAIL? YEAH.

WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL? AND HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO CLOSING THE DOOR ON THIS? IN OTHER WORDS, WILL THEY GO THROUGH THIS AND THEN WAIT A WHOLE NOTHER YEAR AND TRY TO CHANGE IT? BECAUSE I THINK THE THE IDEA IS NOT SO MUCH IT'S THE PERCEPTION OF THEM, THE RESIDENTS GETTING FOOLED.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING THE MOST.

SO WHAT WHAT IS IT? THE 20%.

WHEN WILL IT BE EXECUTED? WHEN WILL IT BECOME FINAL? THE THE.

TO ANSWER YOUR SECOND AND LAST QUESTION, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT.

OKAY. WHAT WHAT THEY HAVE WITH THIS 20% CHANGE IS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, JUST LIKE THEY HAD IN 2006. OKAY, 2006, THEY HAD A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY. THEY COULD HAVE THIS FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN 2024 AND NOT DEVELOP UNTIL 2030.

THAT'S NOT FOR US TO SAY OR FOR ME TO SAY, EVEN IF YOU AND OF COURSE, THE CITY ATTORNEY CAN, CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS IF I'M WRONG, BUT IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CODES, IF YOU GET A DENIAL SUCH AS THIS EVENING, THEY CAN STILL COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND ASK FOR MORE OR THE SAME.

RIGHT? SO IT DOESN'T REALLY AFFECT ANYTHING.

WHAT THEY ASKED FOR IS, WHICH IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR CODE, THAT IF YOU'RE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE, I'M SURE YOU'VE YOU'VE HEARD THAT WORD BEFORE.

YOU'RE IN SUBSTANTIAL COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED PLANS.

AND THEY SAY 20%.

THEN YOU CAN GET THAT ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL BECAUSE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE MARKET, THE DESIGNS, THE THE DESIRE OF NEW

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BUYERS IS NOT THE SAME FROM 2006.

SO I THINK WE CAN ALL RECOGNIZE THAT.

CORRECT. SO THE CHANGES THAT THEY CAME BACK WITH WAS, WAS NOT ONLY THAT THEY'RE HOLDING TO THAT 92 UNITS THAT THEY HAD AN APPROVAL FOR IN 2006 AND THAT THAT THE THE PUBLIC RIGHTFULLY CAME UP AND SAID, WE CAN'T HANDLE ANY MORE TRAFFIC.

PLEASE DON'T DO THIS TO US.

THEY HELD TO THAT.

THEY ALSO LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC'S CRY FOR MORE PARKING.

SO INSTEAD OF THE ONE CAR GARAGES, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN 2006, THEY ARE NOW PUTTING TWO CAR GARAGES IN AND SO MAKING A LITTLE WIDER AND TALLER BUILDINGS.

SO I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THEY'RE COMING UP WITH THEIR PRO FORMA BEING ABLE TO COME THROUGH FOR THEM AT THIS POINT.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AND SELL AT A HIGHER MARKET? I I'M PRESUMING I'VE NEVER SEEN THEIR PRO FORMA.

IT'S LARGER RIGHT.

EXCUSE ME. SPACE.

YOU HAVE TO ASSUME IF IT'S LARGER MORE SPACE IT WOULD BE A HIGHER MARKET.

THAT'S CORRECT. JUST SO THAT I'M COMPREHENDING THIS AND THANK YOU.

YES OF COURSE.

IF. WE DEEM THIS A MOOT POINT.

THAT MEANS THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE LARGER SCOPE OF THE 92 HOMES, BUT MAKING THEM LARGER.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND YOU'RE. THEY'VE ALREADY PREPARED TO THAT SITE PLAN WITH YOU AND THE WHOLE NINE.

CORRECT. AND I AND I HOPE IT WAS IN YOUR PACKAGE.

I THINK IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN YOUR PACKAGE.

AND I WANT TO SAY THEY ALSO NOT ONLY MORE PARKING THEY HELD TO THE UNIT SIZE, THEY ALSO PROVIDED MORE OPEN SPACE.

OKAY. SO WE FELT VERY COMFORTABLE.

YES. THIS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF GENTLEMEN? OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

I THINK THAT CLOSES EVERYONE THAT WAS SPEAKING.

SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK.

I GUESS WE JUST SAY IT'S A MOOT POINT.

NO, WE STILL GOT TO PASS IT.

OKAY. YEAH.

SO MOVED SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

BEFORE WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

THANK YOU. MICK.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NUMBER ITEM NUMBER SIX.

ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

I'M CALLING THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM SIX.

MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2020 4-09, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FROM COMMERCIAL USE, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE, AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE TO NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER USE, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH.

I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD.

THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE OUR ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE TONIGHT.

WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY FIVE AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT, SO SIX THROUGH TEN.

SO I PROMISE OUR PLAN IS TO PRESENT ONCE, TO RUN THROUGH IT, SHOW YOU HOW IT'S ALL ONE COMBINED MASTER PLAN MOSTLY COMMERCIAL PROJECT. AND THIS IS ONE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE.

IF YOU RECALL, WE WERE HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND WE WERE ACTUALLY DENIED BY COUNCIL, AND WE LISTENED.

WE LISTENED TO WHAT YOU SAID.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BACK TODAY WITH WHAT WE HEARD THAT YOU WANTED US TO DO DIFFERENTLY AND TO DO HONESTLY BETTER.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TONIGHT.

SO THIS IS AN OVERALL PROJECT THAT WE HAVE ABOUT 128 ACRES TOTAL RIGHT NOW. IF THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, IT WOULD STILL BE 80% COMMERCIAL.

AND WE THINK OUR PROJECT IS PERFECT TO HELP SUPPORT AND GROW THAT COMMERCIAL SUCCESSFULLY.

THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IS HAVE COMMERCIAL LAND SITTING VACANT, NOT THRIVING, NOT CREATING JOBS, NOT CREATING TAX BASE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.

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AND THIS MASTER PLAN PROJECT WE BELIEVE IS A KEY TO MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

SO THE PROJECT GOAL, WHAT IS IT TO WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST MASTER PLANNED BEFORE THE AMAZON EFFECT BACK IN THE EARLY 2000, BEFORE COVID HIT THE DAYS OF RETAIL, BIG BOX STORES, BEST BUYS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BED, BATH AND BEYOND WAS THRIVING AND THEY'RE BANKRUPT NOW.

SO WE USED TO HAVE BIG, DEEP COMMERCIAL LOTS WITH THOSE BIG BOX STORES IN THE BACK, THE SMALLER STORES IN THE FRONT.

AND THAT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL TREND FOR A LONG TIME.

BUT IT'S JUST NOT TODAY'S ECONOMIC TRENDS.

WE DO SEE THAT STILL SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY IN THE HIGHER VISIBLE AREAS LIKE ON THE I-95 US ONE CORRIDORS.

BUT THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL AREA.

SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT WE ARE DOING MORE OF THE SMALLER, MORE OF THE MEDICAL, MORE OF THE RESTAURANTS TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. SO WHAT WE ULTIMATELY WANT AND WE KNOW COUNCIL WANTS AND THE CITY WANTS IS CREATE A SUCCESSFUL, SUSTAINABLE, MIXED USE LIVE WORK, PLAY, WALKABLE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE THINK WE ARE BRINGING TO YOU TODAY.

WE HAVE A PROVEN DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT HAS DONE THIS BEFORE.

THEY KNOW HOW TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE THIS WORK.

AND THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WILL JUMP START THAT SUCCESSFUL COMMERCIAL.

SO BACKGROUND SUMMARY.

YOU SEE ALL THAT SALMON COLOR? I'M COLORBLIND. THEY DIDN'T TELL ME IT WAS SALMON, BUT THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

BABCOCK STREET RUNNING NORTH SOUTH DOWN THE MIDDLE.

SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY TOWARDS THE SOUTH END, RUNNING EAST WEST.

SO WE'RE AT A PRETTY MAJOR INTERSECTION, BUT IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

COMMERCIAL AREA. EMERALD LAKES IS TO THE EAST OF HERE, AND IT'S ON ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF I 95.

AND I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW THAT PROJECT.

AND THAT'S GOT THE BIG VISIBILITY, BIG COMMERCIAL TYPE OF PROJECT AND POTENTIAL.

SO AGAIN, IT IS ALMOST ALL COMMERCIAL.

WE HAVE THE PUBLIX AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER THAT'S GOING VERTICAL NOW, AND THIS WHOLE AREA IS 159 ACRES. IT HAS.

AND THIS IS WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE COMBINED.

IT HAS OVER 2700 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.

ZERO MULTIFAMILY.

I'LL SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.

ZERO MULTIFAMILY.

AND THAT IS THE HOTTEST MARKET TREND RIGHT NOW FOR RESIDENTIAL.

THERE IS A PENT UP DEMAND.

THERE IS NO MARKET RATE APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA AT ALL.

AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROPOSING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO OUR REQUEST TONIGHT IS FOR A CHANGE IN JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER, WHICH IS THE NEW, NEWLY CREATED FUTURE LAND USE TO ENCOURAGE MIXED USE.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAX OUT THE DENSITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE'RE BELOW. WE'RE COMPLETELY, FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT ALREADY HAS A PUD ZONING.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY TYPE OF ZONING CHANGE AT ALL.

SO THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT, YOU SEE WHERE THE PUBLIX IS.

SO IN THIS ONE, NORTH IS UP BABCOCK STREET TO THE LEFT AND THE PARKWAY THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

THAT'S ALL 40 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.

YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.

WE WANT TO KEEP IT COMMERCIAL.

WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.

WE'VE PREVIOUSLY EVEN CREATED MORE COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA.

SO THAT'S THE EASTERN HALF.

THIS IS THE WESTERN PORTION.

AND THIS ONE NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.

BABCOCK IS ALONG THE BOTTOM.

PARKWAY IS DOWN THE MIDDLE.

SO THIS IS 85 ACRES TOTAL, AND WE'RE PLANNING TO DEVELOP 57 OF THE ACRES WITH COMMERCIAL. SO WHY ARE WE BACK THEN VERSUS NOW IN 2022? WHAT WE DID NOT GET APPROVED WAS 38 ACRES TO BE REZONED, 760 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS.

AND VERY MINIMAL COMMERCIAL ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THAT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR SHOULD REMAIN COMMERCIAL.

AND WE AGREE.

WE WENT BACK AND ANALYZED IT CLOSER, LOOKED AT THE TRENDS, DID MARKET STUDIES, AND REALIZED THAT THAT IS BETTER.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS TEN LESS ACRES BEING REQUESTED, 100 LESS UNITS BEING REQUESTED, AND 11.5 ACRES OF

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COMMERCIAL ALONG THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

SO WHAT WOULD THIS FUTURE LAND USE DO FOR TRAFFIC IF IT STAYED THE SAME AND WAS NOT APPROVED FOR THE CHANGE? WE WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY ABOUT 111,000 TRIPS PER DAY WITH OUR PROPOSAL.

MUCH LESS INTENSE, A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE, PROVIDING A WALKABLE COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET TO THE COMMERCIAL WITHOUT HAVING TO GET IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE DOWN BABCOCK STREET. DRIVE DOWN THE PARKWAY 96% LESS TRIPS.

HAD TO CHECK THE MATH THREE TIMES.

THIS IS A MUCH LESS INTENSE.

BENEFIT TO THE COMMERCIAL.

SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND AGAIN THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE DONE BEFORE.

THIS IS SIMILAR TO OTHER PROJECTS.

IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE ARCHITECTURE.

MARKET RATE APARTMENTS.

YOU SEE THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS BROKEN UP.

IT LOOKS LIKE SEVERAL BUILDINGS HAS A VERY LOW PROFILE ROOF, MULTIPLE HIGH END AMENITIES.

YOU CAN SEE IN THAT BOTTOM LEFT RENDERING WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE VERY HIGH END POOL.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A DARK DOG PARK, A LOT OF AMENITIES, AND AS I SAID EARLIER, MUCH LESS INTENSE, A LOT MORE GREEN SPACE.

TYPICALLY OUR COMMERCIAL JOBS ARE ABOUT 80% IMPERVIOUS.

THIS IS ABOUT 40%.

SO IT REALLY ALLOWS FOR A LOT MORE OPEN SPACE, GREEN SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND IT'S GOING TO AGAIN SUPPORT THAT FUTURE COMMERCIAL.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'D LIKE TO BRING UP JIM MCKNIGHT.

ADVANCE IT FOR ME, OKAY? YEAH. THANK YOU.

I AM JIM MCKNIGHT SPENT 36 YEARS AS A CITY MANAGER IN BREVARD COUNTY.

I THOUGHT I RETIRED, BUT I DIDN'T, OBVIOUSLY MY EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND IS IN LAND PLANNING, AND IT'S GOOD TO BE DEVOTED TO THAT.

ONCE AGAIN. THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT IS THE TRADITIONAL EXAMPLE OF STEP DOWN LAND USE FROM HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL TO LOWER INTENSITY SINGLE FAMILY. IT PROVIDES FOR A POSITIVE TRANSITIONAL TRANSITION BUFFER BETWEEN CONFLICTING USES.

THE ENTITLEMENT ALREADY EXISTS FOR THIS COMMERCIAL, AND REASSIGNING THIS 27 ACRE SECTION TRANSITION IS ESTABLISHED BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL AND THE SINGLE FAMILY.

HOWEVER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TOTAL PROPERTY PALM BAY EAST AND WEST OVER 100 ACRES WILL REMAIN AS NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD CENTER IS THE IDEAL FOR THIS MIXED USE.

IN ADDITION, AS WILL BE BEING BE SEEN THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE AND BUFFERING PLANS, THE PROPERTY WILL PROVIDE A MORE DESIRABLE LOOK FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE REAR OF COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS AS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, COMPLETE WITH WALLS, GARBAGE CONTAINERS AND COMPACTORS AND DELIVERIES AT ANY TIME, DAY AND NIGHT.

RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AS PROPOSED, ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL UNLESS THEY REMAIN IMMACULATE AND WELL MAINTAINED.

NEXT SLIDE. HOUSING OCCUPANCY RATES REMAIN HIGH IN PALM BAY, MAKING TRADITIONAL HOUSING UNOBTAINABLE FOR MANY DUE TO CLIMBING INTEREST RATES AND ESCALATING HOUSING PRICES.

THE NEED FOR OTHER RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE NEEDED.

WHEN COMBINED WITH COMMERCIAL USES, THE MIXED USE BEST SERVES THE COMMUNITY.

NEXT SLIDE. THE COMMERCIAL SUPPLY IN THIS AREA WILL BE MET ON A REGIONAL BASIS WITH EMERALD LAKES AND ASHTON LAKES.

MUCH LIKE BAYSIDE LAKES, PALM BAY POINT IS TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FOCUSED.

EVEN BAYSIDE LAKES IS STILL LESS THAN 50% DEVELOPED AS IT RELATES TO THEIR COMMERCIAL ACREAGE.

PALM BAY POINT EAST AND WEST, AS PROPOSED IN THE PUDS, WILL PROVIDE OVER 100 ACRES OF READY TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

NEXT SLIDE. ON AVERAGE, 50,000 POPULATION IS NEEDED FOR A GROCERY SHOPPING CENTER, WITH A NEW PUBLIX MOVING TO BREAK GROUND ADJACENT TO PALM BAY POINT EAST, IT WILL PROVIDE A SECOND PUBLIX GROCERY CENTER WITH LESS THAN 50 50,000 PEOPLE IN THE TRADE AREA. THE ECONOMIC STUDY, CONDUCTED BY ECONOMIST HANK FISHKIND.

HE CONCLUDED THAT PALM BAY POINT COMMERCIAL LAND WAS GREATER THAN COULD BE REASONABLY ABSORBED.

NEXT SLIDE. FINALLY, THE OCCUPANCY RATES IN PALM BAY FOR MULTIFAMILY COMMUNITIES REMAIN ABOVE 95%, ONCE AGAIN VALIDATING THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS, SUCH AS THE ONE INTEGRATED WITH COMMERCIAL TO CREATE A TRUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

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THIS WILL INDEED JUMPSTART ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

IN SUMMATION, THIS LAND USE WILL REDUCE POTENTIAL TRAFFIC IMPACT, PROVIDE FOR NEEDED HOUSING OPTIONS, AND PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE STEP DOWN BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY LAND USES.

THESE ITEMS REFLECT AN OVERALL CONSISTENCY WITH THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE ASSOCIATED ELEMENTS.

I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO SUSAN HALL WITHOUT REGARD TO THE BUFFERING PLANS.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M SUSAN HALL AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT FOR THE PROJECT.

OUR OFFICES ARE LOCATED AT 244 MCLEOD STREET, MERRITT ISLAND.

SO I'D LIKE TO START THIS EVENING BY SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR WITH THE COURTYARDS AT WATERSTONE.

FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, WE ARE PROPOSING TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR A LONG TERM AND EFFECTIVE LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

THERE HAVE BEEN TWO NEIGHBORHOOD WORKSHOPS.

WE'VE LISTENED TO OUR NEIGHBORS CONCERNS, WHICH WERE MAINLY THE HEIGHT OF THE TREES AND THE DENSITY OF THE PLANTING BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES.

WE DON'T NORMALLY SEE DEVELOPERS GOING TO THIS EXTENT.

AND THE EXTENT THAT IS SO FAR BEYOND WHAT IS REQUIRED.

SO I'M PLEASED TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.

ALL RIGHT. NOW THE NEXT SLIDE.

YES, THANKS.

SO THIS GRAPH LAYS IT OUT CLEARLY ON THE LEFT.

YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE ORANGE, 69 TREES ARE REQUIRED TO BE PLANTED ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE TO MEET CODE MINIMUM.

WE ARE PROPOSING ALMOST TWO AND A HALF, WELL, MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF TIMES THAT WITH 176 TREES, SO THAT WE HAVE A MUCH DENSER PLANTING THROUGH THERE.

WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING TO CREATE A BURM ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE, THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR FEET HIGH, SO THAT WE CAN OBTAIN EVEN MORE HEIGHT ON THE TREE PLANTING THE BAR GRAPH ON THE RIGHT SHOWS IN ORANGE WHAT IS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT AT TEN FEET IN HEIGHT? AND WE ARE PROPOSING A PLANTING OF TREES THAT RANGE FROM 14 TO 18FT IN HEIGHT, SO 14 AT A MINIMUM.

SO WE'RE SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT THE RESIDENTS OF BOTH PROPERTIES WOULD PREFER PRIVACY FROM ONE ANOTHER AND VISUAL SEPARATION.

THIS PLAN SHOWS A CROSS SECTION OF WHAT A CODE MINIMUM PLANTING REQUIRES A TREE AT TERESE AT TEN FEET HEIGHT, MINIMUM 35FT ON CENTER, AND A SIX FOOT OPAQUE FENCE.

THAT'S THE PALM BAY CODE FOR THAT PERIMETER PLANTING.

THE NEXT SECTION THAT WE SHOW HERE SHOWS ARE WHAT I DESCRIBED WITH OUR TERM INCREASED HEIGHT AND DENSITY ON THE PLANTING OF THE TREES AND PALMS, EVEN PUTTING SOME LARGE SPECIMENS OF BAMBOO IN AT SOME CRITICAL SPOTS.

THIS CROSS SECTION IS TAKEN AT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, WHICH IS ACROSS THE MOST NARROW POINT ON THE POND BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES. YOU'LL SEE THAT BLUE ARROW AT THE TOP RIGHT CORNER SHOWS YOU WHERE THIS CROSS SECTION IS.

SO THIS ILLUSTRATES THE EFFORT THAT WE'RE MAKING TO TO INCREASE THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES.

SO ABOUT FIVE YEARS AFTER PLANTING WHAT YOU SEE HERE, THESE TREES WILL BE 20 TO 30FT IN HEIGHT.

AND AT MATURITY, THEY WILL BE BETWEEN 40 AND 60FT IN HEIGHT, PROVIDING EXCELLENT BUFFERING AND VISUAL SEPARATION.

SO TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO PLANT HEAVILY.

WE NEED TO PLANT WITH LARGER TREES AND PINES, AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE READY AND WILLING TO DO.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THIS IS DEJA VU BEING BEFORE YOU HERE TODAY.

IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING.

AND TO SUMMARIZE, THREE YEARS OF OF HARD, DILIGENT WORK IN ONE PRESENTATION IS VERY DIFFICULT.

BUT I KNOW IT'S LATE AT NIGHT AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

I'D LIKE TO START BY THANKING STAFF NOT ONLY FOR THEIR TREMENDOUSLY HARD WORK WITH US THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT ALSO FOR THEIR SUPPORT AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THEIR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

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COUNCIL AS JAKE SAID, THIS IS THE SAME GREAT COMMERCIAL PROJECT YOU SAW IN OCTOBER OF 2022, BUT IT'S ONLY BETTER.

IT'S GOT THE ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL ALONG THE EXTENSION OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

WHAT'S SO UNIQUE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST OURS.

THE APPLICANT'S.

IT'S EVERYONE'S IT'S MEANT THIS AREA IS MEANT TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

BY ITS VERY DEFINITION, IT'S MEANT TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS PROJECT DOES EXACTLY THAT.

THIS PROJECT IS A CULMINATION OF ALL THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.

WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH COUNCILMAN STAFF MEMBERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS, HOMEOWNERS, PLANNERS, ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS.

AND I HOPE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU TAKE AWAY FROM THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S THAT WE HAVE LISTENED TO COUNCIL, WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY STAFF, AND THIS IS A PROJECT THAT EVERYONE, ALL OF US CAN BE PROUD OF.

SPEAKING OF LISTENING, WHAT I HAVE HEARD IN LISTENING TO COUNCIL MEETINGS AND AND BEING IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR THREE YEARS NOW IS HOW IMPORTANT COMMERCIAL IS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I'M A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER.

IT'S MY BACKGROUND.

IT'S WHAT I DO.

I'VE DEVELOPED FOR TENANTS LIKE PUBLIX, EARTHFARE, SPROUTS, SMALL SHOP TENANTS LIKE RESTAURANTS, BANKS, URGENT CARE CLINICS.

THIS IS THIS IS MY EXPERTISE.

AND I'M. WE ARE HERE TO BRING COMMERCIAL TO PALM BAY.

IT'S BEEN OUR MISSION IN THE PAST THREE YEARS TO FIND OUT A WAY THAT WE COULD DO THAT.

SO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO SEE WAS HOW THE WATERSTONE CYPRESS BAY AREA COMPARED TO OTHER MASTER PLAN PROJECTS IN THE CITY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE WAY WE TRIED TO DO THIS WAS BY LOOKING AT AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON.

HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE THERE IN EACH COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT A COMMERCIAL ACRE? AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM ROW IN PALM VISTA, THERE ARE 67 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO SUPPORT EACH COMMERCIAL ACRE.

AND THEN AS WE MOVE OUR WAY TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THAT BAYSIDE LAKES HAS 30 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO SUPPORT EACH COMMERCIAL ACRE.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO WATERSTONE CYPRESS BAY, THE NUMBER DROPS DRASTICALLY.

THERE'S LESS RESIDENTIAL DENSITY TO SUPPORT COMMERCIAL.

THERE'S ONLY 18 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO SUPPORT EACH COMMERCIAL ACRE.

WITH THE APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY, THAT NUMBER WILL GO FROM 18 TO 26 RESIDENTIAL UNITS PER ACRE, STILL LESS THAN BAYSIDE LAKES AND MUCH LESS THAN PALM VISTA, BUT MORE IN LINE WITH THE MARKET.

LAST YEAR, WE COMMISSIONED A REPORT BY THE FISHKIND ECONOMIC, FISCAL AND SERVICES FIRM.

THE MOST IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY FROM THEIR REPORT IS THAT IN TODAY'S MARKET ENVIRONMENT, AND THIS TIES BACK TO WHAT YOU HEARD FROM FROM JIM MCKNIGHT AND JAKE WISE, IS BECAUSE OF THE AMAZON EFFECT AND THE COVID EFFECT AND THE CHANGE IN CONSUMER HABITS.

THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S ENTITLED FOR THIS AREA SIMPLY CANNOT ALL BE ABSORBED.

THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE AND OUR NEIGHBORS, EMERALD LAKES TO OUR EAST.

THEY HAVE A PREMIER LOCATION RIGHT ALONG I-95, WHICH GIVES THEM BETTER ACCESS TO TRAFFIC, BETTER PROXIMITY TO THE SURROUNDING MARKET, AND BETTER VISIBILITY ALONG I-95.

THEY ARE THE WHAT WE WOULD CALL THE TRUE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LOCATION, WHEREAS US PALM BAY POINT WERE THE LESSER INTENSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LOCATION MEANT TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ACCORDING TO THE FISHKIND REPORT.

WHILE THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL CAN'T BE ABSORBED, WHAT CAN WORK, AS JAKE WAS SAYING, IS A WALKABLE, THOUGHTFULLY CURATED LIVE WORK PLAY, MIXED USE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE MIXED USE PROJECT BENEFIT AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER.

THIS IS AN EXCERPT FROM THE REPORT.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS PAGE, BUT I'M GOING TO TRY TO SIMPLIFY IT.

THIS THESE CHARTS, WHILE OUR PROJECT IS IN ROUND NUMBERS, 130 ACRES, THESE NUMBERS ARE LOOKING AT ONLY A 27 ACRE SLIVER OF THE PROJECT. SO THESE NUMBERS ARE LOOKING AT JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE PROJECT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM CHART, IT ASSUMES THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT COULD BE BUILT, WHICH, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, WOULD BE AN UPHILL BATTLE, TO SAY THE LEAST.

BUT ASSUMING THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO THE PROJECT COULD BE BUILT ON THOSE 27 ACRES THROUGH THE YEAR 2062, THAT PROJECT COULD GENERATE PLUS OR -$32 MILLION IN NET FISCAL IMPACT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

32 MILLION.

HOWEVER, IF YOU TAKE THOSE SAME 27 ACRES AND YOU CONSTRUCT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, THOSE SAME 27 ACRES THROUGH THE YEAR 2062 COULD GENERATE $86 MILLION OF NET FISCAL IMPACT.

THAT'S AFTER EXPENSES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

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SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 27 ACRES OF OUR PROJECT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A DIFFERENCE OF $55 MILLION IN DOING RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL AND NET FISCAL IMPACTS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, $55 MILLION ABOVE AND BEYOND.

THE IMPORTANT TAKEAWAY FROM THIS SLIDE IS THAT PALM BAY PALM BAY POINT REPRESENTS AN INVESTMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY OF OVER A QUARTER OF $1 BILLION. THIS IS A HUGE INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT BUILDERS AND FLIPPERS.

WE'RE NOT BUILDING A GAS STATION AND GETTING OUT.

WE ARE. THIS IS A HUGE LAND INVESTMENT FOR US, A HUGE MONETARY INVESTMENT FOR US.

AND WE'RE WE'RE HERE FOR THE LONG RUN.

THIS IS THE SLIDE OF ALL THE SLIDES THAT I'M I'M POSSIBLY MOST PROUD OF.

WE WORK ON A LOT OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE STATE, AND WE SEE A LOT OF PROJECTS IN WHAT OUR COMPETITION IS DOING.

PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT SO UNIQUE, RELATIVE TO THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE SEE, IS MOST PROJECTS, MOST NEW DEVELOPMENT ACTS AS A DRAIN ON COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE, ON UTILITIES, ON RESOURCES.

BUT WITH PALM BAY POINT, I'M SO, SO PROUD TO SAY THAT IT IS EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE.

WE ARE DESIGNING, PLANNING, FUNDING AND CONSTRUCTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL ALLOW NOT JUST PALM BAY POINT, BUT THIS ENTIRE REGION TO FLOURISH. WE CAN'T DO IT ALL.

WE CAN'T PUT EVERYTHING IN FOR EMERALD LAKES, EVERYTHING FOR ASHLAND PARK, EVERYTHING FOR MICCO ROAD.

BUT WE ARE FIRST IN AND WE'RE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO JUMP START THIS REGION AND JUMP START THE COMMERCIAL.

PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING INCLUDES COMPLETING UNDERGROUND WATER AND SEWER LINE CROSSINGS UNDER BABCOCK AND UNDER SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

WE'VE ALREADY COMPLETED THOSE PLANS.

THEY'VE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE APPROVED.

WE'RE RELOCATING AN UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC LINES.

WE'RE EXTENDING WATER AND SEWER DOWN SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND WE'RE STARTING TO WORK WITH THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT ON WAYS TO INCREASE FIRE FLOW.

AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE JUST IN THEIR INFANCY.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE PUT IN WILL SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR FUTURE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS REGION OF THE PALM OF PALM BAY.

IN ADDITION TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE PUTTING IN, IT'S ESTIMATED THAT PALM BAY POINT AT FULL BUILD OUT WILL YIELD PLUS OR -$12 MILLION OF IMPACT FEES TO THE CITY.

WE'RE ALMOST DONE.

THIS IS A CASE STUDY ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY WEST OF DISNEY WORLD IN ORLANDO.

AND IF YOU LOOK, THIS IS AN AERIAL TAKEN FROM THE YEAR 2015.

AND THIS IS VACANT RAW LAND.

THERE IS NOTHING THERE. THIS IS NINE YEARS AGO.

AND WHEN YOU FAST FORWARD TO 2018, YOU'LL SEE IN THE GREEN CIRCLES THERE'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL ROOFTOPS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AGAIN, BOTH SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY. BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS AERIAL TAKEN IN 2018 IS THAT BLUE RECTANGLE SITTING ALL IN THE RIGHT, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREEN CIRCLES.

THAT BLUE RECTANGLE IS THE COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND IT'S SITTING VACANT.

IT'S SITTING VACANT BECAUSE NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN, THE SEQUENCE OF DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL GROWTH FOLLOWS RESIDENTIAL ROOFTOPS.

SO WHEN YOU FAST FORWARD FROM 2018 TO 2021, BOOM, THE COMMERCIAL FOLLOWED.

THERE'S A NUMBER.

IT'S A IT'S A PHENOMENAL COMMERCIAL PROJECT.

THEY LANDED NORTH OF A DOZEN TENANTS, BUT A COUPLE TENANTS THAT I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT INCLUDE A BREWERY AND TAPHOUSE, A STARBUCKS, A JEREMIAH'S ICE AND AN ADVENTHEALTH URGENT CARE CLINIC. THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

NOT PERFECT, BUT IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF OF THE SEQUENCE OF GROWTH IN EMERGING MARKETS LIKE THIS.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE.

WE'RE SO HAPPY TO BE HERE AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. SO I GUESS I'LL START BECAUSE I WAS A BIG NAY.

RIGHT. AND I GUESS I'LL START WITH MY VERY FIRST QUESTION IS.

AND I SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE ROOFTOPS AND THE HEAD.

WE HAVE SEVERAL ROOFTOPS.

WILL YOU BE AS YOU DEVELOP, WILL YOU BE PLACING THE COMMERCIAL PRIOR TO THE APARTMENTS? GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. PART OF WHAT MAKES THIS PROJECT UNIQUE IS THE AMOUNT, THE VOLUME, THE SCOPE AND THE COST OF ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE.

IT IS A THERE'S A HUGE PRICE TAG ASSOCIATED WITH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COVER THE COSTS OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, WE HAVE TO DEVELOP AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN A SMART WAY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

SO IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION FOR THE COMMERCIAL TO LACK THE MULTIFAMILY.

WE HAVE SEVERAL TENANTS, SEVERAL END USERS WHO ARE WATCHING US HERE TONIGHT TO SEE IF WE GET THROUGH.

AND, AND I DO BELIEVE WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON COMMERCIAL TENANTS RIGHT AWAY, POSSIBLY EVEN IN ADVANCE OF THE MULTIFAMILY.

WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS IS A HUGE PROJECT, SO IT'S NOT ALL GOING TO GET BUILT AT ONCE.

I DO THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL COMMERCIAL USERS AHEAD OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND THEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THEN MORE COMMERCIAL.

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OKAY. AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE THERE WAS A PROJECT WITHIN OUR CITY AND THE CITY STILL WAITING FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT OUT.

AND I WAS A HARD NO BEFORE.

BUT LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

I REALLY FEEL THAT YOU DID.

LISTEN. AND PUTTING THE COMMERCIAL.

RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE MAIN CORRIDOR.

I ALSO FEEL THAT YOU LISTENED WITH LOWERING THE DENSITY, AND FOR THAT I COMMEND YOU AND I COMMEND YOUR HARD WORK BECAUSE THIS I KNOW IT'S TAKEN SEVERAL YEARS. BUT EVEN MOREOVER, I THINK THAT YOU'VE STOOD ENGAGED WITH HOW WE SPEAK ON THIS DAIS.

IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE VISUALIZE THIS CITY AND HOW WE'RE GROWING.

THE FACT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING SOMETHING WHERE OUR RESIDENTS CAN WALK TO AND FROM THE STORE TO THE COFFEE SHOP, AND THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN SHARING, KIND OF LIKE A TOWN CENTER, IF YOU WILL.

AND I THINK YOU'VE BEEN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE REPORTING BACK TO YOUR TEAM, BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED SINCE YOU'RE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE THE POINT MAN HERE.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

MY PIECE IS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WHAT I'M HEARING, AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS FOR THE RECORD THAT YOU SEE THE COMMERCIAL COMING UP AT THE SAME TIME.

IS THAT CORRECT? SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL, YES.

I CAN TELL YOU, WE HAVE CURRENTLY 3 OR 4 COMMERCIAL USERS WHO WE BELIEVE ARE READY TO GO, AND WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE NEED THEM TO GO BECAUSE WE NEED THE PROCEEDS TO HELP COVER THE COST OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE WANT THE COMMERCIAL AS BADLY, IF NOT MORE THAN COUNCIL IN THE CITY, DOES WE? WE'RE ON THE SAME TEAM.

WE'RE PARTNERS IN THIS.

OUTSTANDING. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO YIELD TO MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SIR.

NOT REALLY. I GREAT PRESENTATION, GREAT SPEAKERS.

UNDERSTOOD EVERY WORD YOU SAY.

IT CLICKED IN MY HEAD.

AND, YOU KNOW, BACK IN BEFORE I HAD MY MEDICAL INCIDENT YOU KNOW, I VOTED.

I VOTED FOR IT.

THEN I CAME BACK, AND YOU MADE IT BETTER.

YOU MADE IT BETTER.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM INVESTED IN PALM BAY.

IT MEANS A LOT TO ME AND THIS CITY AND YOU KNOW, GOD SPEED WITH YOU GUYS.

YOU KNOW, STICK WITH US.

I THINK WE COULD. WE COULD BE A GOOD PARTNER NOT ONLY ON THIS PROJECT, BUT IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE WE STILL GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS, SIR? ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I'D LIKE TO PUT IT ON RECORD THAT I DID MEET WITH JEREMY AND A COUPLE OF HIS TEAM MEMBERS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S KNOWN.

REALLY? I MEAN, HE ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.

ALL MY QUESTIONS, ALL MY CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED.

AND JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M I WAS A FAN OF THE PROJECT.

I'M A FAN NOW, AND I TOTALLY SEE THE VALUE.

THIS IS TRULY GOING TO CHANGE THAT WHOLE SECTION OF THE CITY, THAT AREA WITH THE LACK OF COMMERCIAL.

AND THE CLOSEST THING IS, YOU KNOW, BAYSIDE IN TERMS OF COMMERCIAL SUPERMARKET OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO IT, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM MR. MILES. COLUMN THAT.

CORRECT? YEAH.

AND IT SAID IT STATED QUITE A BIT OF FACT ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WHY IS IN SUPPORT OF IT? THE ASPECT OF WALKABILITY.

AND ALTHOUGH THE PROJECT IS MAINLY COMMERCIAL, THE RESIDENTIAL IS NECESSARY NOT ONLY FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THAT WE MENTIONED WERE MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT IN TERMS OF FINDING EMPLOYEES, BEING ABLE TO HAVE EMPLOYEES, THE ABILITY TO, TO SERVE THAT COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF IT.

SO AND I'M OBVIOUSLY I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

AND, AND AS THE MAYOR SAID, I THINK THAT THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

AND SURELY YOUR TEAM IS THE EXAMPLE OF A DEVELOPER WHEN WE GIVE FEEDBACK AND TAKE IT AND MAKE SOMETHING, DON'T PLAY AROUND AND TRULY MAKE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES AND THEN BRING US A BETTER PROJECT.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I GUESS I'LL AND I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK.

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BUT BEFORE YOU GET OFF THAT, THAT LECTERN JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU.

WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY GOOD PROJECTS COME BEFORE US.

AND WE'VE SAID WE'VE SEEN THE CONCEPTUAL.

AND I KIND OF, LIKE, GRAVITATE TO THE CONCEPTUAL, RIGHT.

THE CONCEPTUAL THAT YOU PROVIDED.

AND I KNOW I THINK I LIKE TO SEE THAT.

SO PLEASE DON'T DEVIATE FROM THAT.

I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROJECT IT WAS, BUT WE SAID WE WANT THAT SAME CONCEPTUAL SEE THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IS THAT SAFE FOR YOU TO SAY THAT THAT WOULD BE A CONCEPTUAL THAT YOU ARE CONFIDENT IS WHAT WE'LL LOOK AT WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED.

I APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.

WE WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

AND I THINK THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE THAT WE ENVISION FOR THIS PROJECT IS WHAT WE PUT ON THE SCREEN TODAY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LIKE A KEY WEST, FLORIDA THEME OR, OR TWIST, IF YOU WILL.

BUT YET THE ARCHITECT THAT WE HAVE PRELIMINARILY ENGAGED FOR THIS PROJECT, I DO BELIEVE IS THE SAME ARCHITECT THAT THAT DID THE ARCHITECTURE AND WHAT YOU SEE.

SO MAYBE SLIGHT DEVIATIONS BUT OF QUALITY THAT YOU SEE IN IN THOSE, IN THOSE CONCEPTUAL.

COPY THAT SIR. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP FOR OTHERS TO COMMENT NOW.

THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES IT DOES. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS.

THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A PUBLIC SPEAKER.

YES, SIR. MR. BATTEN. GO BACK IN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THE BEST WAY I CAN SAY THIS ONE WAS IN THE COMMENT I HEARD.

JUMP START THE JUMP, START THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH I AGREE, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND THEY'RE PUTTING MASSIVE OUTLAY WHICH HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

AS MUCH AS I HATE TO SEE THE LAND CHANGE FROM WHAT I ASSOCIATE WITH WITH A GOOD LIFESTYLE OF THE CATTLE AND RANCHES RUNNING, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE ANYMORE.

AND I KNOW THAT.

BUT I'M WATCHING WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING.

BUT I'M SO I CONSIDER THE STATEMENT OF A JUMP START AS 100% WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I'M ALSO, I'M HAPPY WITH THE FACT OF THE WAY THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS RIGHT ALONG THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND BABCOCK.

RIGHT. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A GET BUSINESS COMING IN OR COMMERCIAL COMING IN, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT PUBLIX, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR COMPLAINTS ABOUT EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND IS PUBLIX IS SO BUSY.

PUBLIX IS THIS IS GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THAT JUST MOVED IN DOWN THERE, NOW THEY HAVE TO DRIVE TO THE BAYSIDE LAKES PUBLIX, AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS IS GOING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT PROBLEM.

SO IT'S A GOOD THING.

BUT YOU KNOW, BILL BATTEN, BATTEN IS GOING TO FIND A NEGATIVE IN ANYTHING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I DO.

THE THING THAT I SEE NEGATIVE ON THIS IS I'M WATCHING THE DEVELOPMENT OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE ON THE WIDENING OF BABCOCK AND WE'RE LOOKING AT MICCO ROAD.

ALL THIS STUFF IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING ON MICCO ROAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE CONVERGING IN THAT AREA.

AND AS I LOOK AT THE PLANS, I ONLY SEE THAT THERE'S ONLY TWO LANES FOR SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

I SEE BABCOCK IS ALMOST MAXED OUT IN THE AVAILABLE LAND FOR EXPANSION.

I CAN SEE THIS.

NOT THIS WEEK OR NOT NEXT WEEK, BUT MAYBE WITHIN THE NEXT 20 OR 30 YEARS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S HOW LONG SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO TAKE THAT WHEN WE'RE READY TO MAKE THAT EXPANSION, WE WON'T HAVE THE ROAD ACCESS CAPABILITY TO MAKE THE EXPANSION.

BECAUSE REMEMBER, THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BELTWAY AROUND THE CITY OF PALM, PALM BAY TO ALLEVIATE THROUGH ALL THE THROUGH TRAFFIC.

AND WE'RE BUILDING IT ON A TWO LANE, TWO LANE IDEAL.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING NEGATIVE I CAN SEE ABOUT THIS.

IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE LAND AVAILABLE FOR THE EXPANSION.

YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW THAT MEANS I'M HAVING TO GIVE UP SOME OF THEIR LAND.

MAYBE AGAIN.

BUT THAT'S THE ONLY NEGATIVE I COULD SEE WITH THIS.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I DON'T SPEAK OF STRONG FOR A PROJECT VERY OFTEN, BUT I SEE THEY'RE TRYING THEIR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF PEOPLE AND A LOT OF THE DILEMMAS THAT WE'RE FACING.

SO I GIVE THEM A BRAVO ZULU IN THAT ASPECT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? ANY ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? COME STEP FORWARD, MA'AM.

AND I KNOW, JAKE, YOU TOOK NOTE.

NOTE OF THAT. THANK YOU.

HI. GOOD EVENING.

ANY CARTAGENA'S 1773 MIDDLEBURY DRIVE, SOUTHEAST COURTYARDS.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER.

JUST BECAUSE IN THE RENDERINGS I DON'T SEE MY HOME AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE BEHIND THE HOME.

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SO BEHIND MY HOUSE.

MA'AM, TALK TO ME AND THEY'LL ANSWER BEHIND MY HOUSE IS IS GOING TO BE A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THE BUFFERING AND THE TREES AND THE PRIVACY ALSO APPLIES TO THE COMMERCIAL.

IS THAT ALL? YES.

THANK YOU, MISS CARTAGENA.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. JAKE, WOULD YOU PLEASE RESPOND TO THOSE TWO QUESTIONS? YES. SO AS FAR AS TRAFFIC GOES, WE DID A TRAFFIC STUDY FOR THE ENTIRE MASTER DEVELOPMENT OF BOTH WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE, AND WE'VE BEEN UPDATING IT PERIODICALLY. WE HAVE MADE THE COMMITMENT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL UPDATE IT AGAIN.

OH, SORRY. I'LL BRING IT UP, SIR, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALL.

DOES THAT WORK? THERE WE GO.

THAT'S SO COOL. SO WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING OUR TRAFFIC STUDIES AS THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN MOVING ALONG.

WE UPDATE IT FOR BACKGROUND TRIPS FOR OTHER PROJECTS AS THEY GET APPROVED, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO RIGHT NOW, THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IS FOUR LANES FROM BABCOCK STREET TO I-95.

IT IS ALMOST OPEN TO EXTEND IT PAST BABCOCK STREET TO TIE INTO MERALOMA.

MERALOMA RIGHT NOW ONLY COMES OUT TO BABCOCK STREET, SO IT'S A DEAD END ROADWAY.

IT IS BEING LOOPED AROUND AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO ALL OF THE MERALOMA RESIDENTS CAN SPLIT AND GO BOTH DIRECTIONS.

WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT MERALOMA AND BABCOCK STREET THAT'S PERMITTED.

AND MOVING FORWARD, THE CITY, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND OTHER DEVELOPERS, INCLUDING PUBLIX, ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY.

IN FACT, WE HAVE WEEKLY CALLS WITH FRANK AND THE TEAM FOR MAKING INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, TRAFFIC SIGNAL IMPROVEMENTS PUTTING MOVING OTHER UTILITIES, INSTALLING DRY LINES FOR FUTURE TIE INS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TEAR UP YOUR BRAND NEW INTERSECTIONS AND ROADS.

ALL THAT'S BEING MASTER PLANNED TOGETHER.

AND ALL MOVING FORWARD.

SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IS DESIGNED FOR SIX LANES, AND THAT'S HOW IT'S PERMITTED FOR, AGAIN, FUTURE GROWTH.

WE HAVE A PRE-APPLICATION REQUEST IN FOR THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY THROUGH EAST EMERALD LAKES AND THROUGH A PROJECT CALLED MICCO VILLAGE, WHICH HAS BEEN CHANGED TO LOTUS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO MICCO ROAD THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.

THAT INCLUDES UTILITY EXTENSIONS AND THE PARKWAY EXTENSION.

BABCOCK STREET IS DOING A PD AND E STUDY.

YOU JUST HEARD TWO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT FOR OTHER CORRIDORS.

BASICALLY, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON MALABAR ROAD AND BABCOCK STREET IS FAR AHEAD OF THAT IN THE SAME PROCESS.

AND THEN TO ANSWER THE YOUNG LADY'S QUESTION, YES WITH THE BUFFERING WILL BE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

IT'S AS IMPORTANT TO US AS WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

AND WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

AND IT'S FUNNY, I CAN'T EVEN COUNT HOW MANY NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS I'VE DONE IN THIS AREA.

BUT THE ONE THING WE HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS PUBLIX, WHICH IS GOING VERTICAL MEDICAL RESTAURANTS, AND EVERYBODY WANTS A CONVENIENCE GAS STATION AT THE MAIN INTERSECTION THERE.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE FORESEE COMING FORWARD.

AND WE DO FORESEE ALL OF THAT COMING TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME, JUST KNOWING THAT THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED, IF HOPEFULLY THAT IS THE CASE.

THEN WE HAVE THE EXCITEMENT OF THE COMMERCIAL POTENTIAL END USERS.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE HAVE CREATED YOUR TOWN CENTER WITH THIS PROJECT, AND WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED TO BE HERE.

AND WE DO APPRECIATE HOW MUCH THE CITY STAFF HAS WORKED WITH US AND HOW MUCH YOUR INPUT HAS MADE OUR PROJECT BETTER.

SO I THINK, JUST TO REITERATE, MISS CARTAGENA WAS CONCERNED ABOUT A BUFFER OF COMMERCIAL AND HER HOME.

AND THAT BUFFER IS A VEGETATIVE BUFFER, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING COMBINATION? YEP. YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE RIGHT THERE.

WE MOVED THE BUILDINGS ACTUALLY BACK FURTHER AWAY THAN OUR ORIGINAL DESIGNS TO CREATE MORE GREEN SPACE, TO CREATE LESS OF A VISUAL IMPACT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO PLANT TREES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POND, NOT JUST OUR SIDE.

AND THEN, AS SUSAN ELOQUENTLY SAID, MUCH BETTER THAN I COULD ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE TREES, THE SIZE OF THE TREES, THE INTENSITY OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR REBUTTING THE COMMENTS.

SO WE DO HAVE THE FIVE SEPARATE ITEMS THAT WE'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE.

YES, SIR. WE'RE AWARE WE SEE THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. JAKE. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'M GOING TO SECOND THIS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

I WAS A HARD NO.

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BUT WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT YOUR TEAM IS YOU LISTEN TO WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.

AND I THINK MASTER CHIEF BATTEN HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

I ASKED FOR THAT COMMERCIAL BEING ON THE MAIN CORRIDOR.

AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.

I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO BRING DOWN THAT THAT DENSITY.

RIGHT. BUT THE FACT THAT YOU MADE IT FIT A WALKABILITY ASPECT, DEPUTY MAYOR, THAT YOU NAILED IT.

I REALLY ENJOYED THIS PROJECT.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I AM SEEING A TOWN CENTER EFFECT TO IT, AND I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

SO I AM A SOLID.

YES, I SECONDED THE MOTION.

AND I'M EXCITED.

MY NEXT MY ONLY CONCERN IS HOW SOON CAN WE TURN KEY ON THIS, RIGHT.

THAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THAT I'M THAT TYPE OF MOTIVATED INDIVIDUAL.

I WANT TO GO TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RESTAURANT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

CERTAINLY. I'M EXCITED OF WHAT YOU'RE BRINGING TO THAT CORRIDOR.

BUT WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

CONGRATULATIONS. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MISS SMITH.

AYE, AYE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

RESOLUTION 2024, DASH ZERO FIVE, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF A PROPOSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO BE KNOWN AS PALM BAY POINTE WEST IN PUD.

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING.

THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET IN THE VICINITY OF, NORTH AND SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT I PULLED UP WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON NOW, AND THAT IS PALM BAY POINT WEST.

AGAIN ON THIS SLIDE, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT.

BABCOCK STREET IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.

THE PARKWAY IS TOWARDS THE LEFT.

AND THIS IS THE ONLY THING WE ASK IS THAT OUR PREVIOUS TESTIMONY BE ENTERED INTO THE RECORD FOR THIS ITEM.

AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

AND I APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? THANK YOU.

I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? JUST TO DISCLOSE, I MET BECAUSE QUASI JUDICIAL.

I MET WITH JEREMY. I MET WITH MR. MCKNIGHT ON THIS ITEM.

I LIKE TO ALSO, I MET WITH GERMANY OVER THE PHONE, SO I WANT TO DISCLOSE THAT.

AND YOU ALREADY DISCLOSED.

CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY, I.

I DON'T MEET QUASI-JUDICIAL, AS YOU KNOW THAT I TOOK THAT THE COUNSEL FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHEN I GOT ON THIS DAIS.

BUT I JUDGE ON ITS MERIT, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS SEE SEE THAT THAT VALUE THAT I BRING.

ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO SHARE? THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

MISS SMITH. ORDINANCE 2024 TEN AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS PALM BAY POINT WEST IN PUD.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

ZONING. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET IN THE VICINITY, NORTH AND SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND. MR. WEISS. THANK YOU.

JAKE WEISS AGAIN.

THIS IS THE EXACT SAME ITEM YOU JUST VOTED ON INSTEAD OF A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THIS IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH.

WE BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND ONCE AGAIN, JUST ASK THAT OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATION BE PART OF THE RECORD.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY MAYOR MEDINA.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MISS SMITH.

AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

RESOLUTION 2020 406, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF A COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS PALM BAY POINT EAST IN PUD.

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PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET IN THE VICINITY, NORTH AND SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN.

PROVIDING FOR FILING OF THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPLICATION.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. WISE.

JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

I PULLED UP THE SLIDE FOR PALM BAY POINT EAST.

THIS IS EAST OF BABCOCK STREET, ADJACENT TO PUBLIX AND BOTH SIDES OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND 100% COMMERCIAL PROPOSED.

I JUST ASKED THAT OUR PREVIOUS TESTIMONY BE ENTERED AS PART OF THE RECORD AGAIN, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE BOARD MAY HAVE NO QUESTIONS.

SPEAKER CARDS.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ITEM NUMBER TEN, MADAM SMITH.

AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 11, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS PALM BAY POINT EAST IN PUD. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

ZONING. THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET, THE VICINITY NORTH AND SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT, JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

THIS IS THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THE PREVIOUS ITEM WAS THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO IT'S THE EXACT SAME PLAN.

AND ONCE AGAIN, JUST ASK THAT OUR PREVIOUS TESTIMONY BE PROVIDED PART OF THE RECORD AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? I NEED A MOTION. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS. LOVE TO SEE THE RESTAURANT HERE PRETTY SOON.

THANK YOU. SO WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT AND WE ARE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]

SIX, DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BILL BATTEN.

THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY, EVEN BY MY STANDARDS.

$1.9 MILLION.

RIGHT. MY QUESTION WITH THIS ONE IS.

CAN THIS BE USED FOR OUR CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER 12.

AND IF SO, HOW? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I'M. I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT FOR THE HOME DISBURSEMENT AGREEMENT.

THEN IT CAN IT BE SOMEHOW USED IN CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.

THAT'S IT.

SIMPLE QUESTION.

IF SO, MAYBE.

THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I'LL ASK NANCY BUNT, OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, TO SPEAK TO THAT.

HI, MISS BUNDT. HELLO.

HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT? GOOD, MA'AM.

GOOD. GOOD EVENING.

YES, IT ABSOLUTELY CAN.

AND THAT IS ACTUALLY OUR INTENT.

SINCE WE WERE ABLE TO GET RECEIVE ALL OF OUR HOME FUNDS.

AS YOU MAY KNOW, FOR THE LAST SEVEN PLUS YEARS, THE COUNTY HAS HELD BACK FUNDS DUE TO NONCOMPLIANCE ISSUES.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND OUR STAFF BECAUSE THIS IS THE YEAR THAT THEY RELEASED ALL OF OUR FUNDS, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE $1.9 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THAT'S EXCELLENT.

AND SO WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO WAS WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVE TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSES.

SHE HAS COMPLETED TWO ONE ON NORTHVIEW AND ONE ON WILLIAMS. BUT SHE'S HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING THE LOT.

SO WE FOUND SOME CITY OWNED LOTS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HOPING THAT THE CITY WOULD.

CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER DONATING THOSE LOTS SO WE COULD BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THAT IS OUR INTENT.

THE REST OF THE 1.9, WE WERE GOING TO DO AN RFP FOR THE NORTHVIEW PROPERTIES, WHICH THE CITY ALSO OWNS, AND SO WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO BRING SOME MONIES TO THE TABLES FOR THE DEVELOPER TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR EITHER VETERANS OR SENIORS, AS COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED PREVIOUSLY ON THOSE SURPLUS PROPERTIES. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? I'LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY, MISS BUNT.

FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

FOR ALL YOU DID.

THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICES THAT YOU ENDURED AND SERVING US ON THE DAIS AND OUR COMMUNITY.

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I TRULY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE I'LL SEE YOU.

BUT I'M GOING TO MISS YOU.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THOSE KIND WORDS.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING OUR CITY, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AYE AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT ITEM NUMBER NINE.

AND I PULLED THIS ONE GENTLEMAN I AND AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CORRIDOR OF THE INTERCHANGE ON MALABAR ROAD, I WANT TO SEE IF WE COULD SEND A LETTER TO THE SECRETARY OF FDOT TO SEE OR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO IN THE MEANTIME.

BECAUSE WHAT I'M SEEING IS A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE, AND THAT HAS TO BE THE ONES THAT PATROL THAT OR STATE TROOPERS.

RIGHT ON 95.

WHAT I'M WHAT I'M WITNESSING IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT.

AND SO I WANTED TO SEE WHAT ELSE THE STATE CAN DO, SINCE IT'S TAKEN SO LONG FOR THEM TO DO THE PD AND E STUDY AND THEN TO PUT ACTION ONCE THAT STUDY SHOWS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THAT CORRIDOR TO ENHANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, EXTRA LANE SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO THE STUDY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD JUST SIT IDLY BY.

SO I'M. I'M ASKING FOR YOUR CONSENSUS TO SEND A LETTER.

I KNOW PERHAPS WE'LL ALL THREE OF US CAN BRING IT UP AGAIN AT THE TPO IN OUR MEETING.

BUT EVEN MORE OVER THAN THAT, I THINK IF WE COULD SEND A UNIFIED LETTER TO THE SECRETARY, DISTRICT FIVE SECRETARY AND ASK HIM WHAT OTHER RECOURSE CAN WE DO IMMEDIATELY NOT TO WAIT ON A PD? AND WE'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR EXPEDITE, SO I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND GET CONSENSUS WITH THAT.

SO I'M GOOD WITH THE MAYOR, BUT ALSO LET'S LET'S CALL HIM LET'S LET'S JUST.

WELL AND I I'VE HAD I YEAH I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

I'VE SHARED EXPEDITING THIS PROCESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT CREATED THE PD TO BE MOVED UP TO THIS, THIS EARLY.

AND FRANK CAN ATTEST TO THAT BECAUSE HE, HE WAS HE WAS SURPRISED THAT IT WAS MOVED UP SO QUICKLY.

RIGHT. AND I THINK THAT'S A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH ALL OF US ON THE, ON THE TPO.

RIGHT. BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO SIT IDLY BY.

SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN.

AND THEN THAT'S ON US.

THAT'S ON US? YEAH. HE'S NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT'S ON US. SO I WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS ON THAT CORRIDOR.

SO IF IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO I HAVE CONSENSUS. ALL RIGHT.

MA'AM I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 11.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR..

BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

$461,000. THAT'S ANOTHER CHUNK OF CHANGE, EVEN BY MY STANDARDS.

AGAIN. RIGHT.

AND I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSEDLY NON BUILDABLE PROPERTY.

THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON IT SO LET THEM OWN IT.

RIGHT. BUT I'M CURIOUS IS HOW MUCH DOES THAT LAND IS CONSIDERED NON BUILDABLE.

WHAT DOES THAT GENERATE FOR THE ACTUAL VALUE FOR TAXES.

IS IT GOING TO BE COMBINED WITH THEIR OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

WILL IT BE JUST VACANT LAND THAT DOESN'T GENERATE ANYTHING BUT $35 A MONTH? YOU KNOW, I'M JUST JUST CURIOUS WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GENERATE.

RIGHT. THAT ALSO SAYS WHAT HAPPENS IF WE EVER HAVE TO EXPAND US? ONE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IT'S NO LONGER OUR PROPERTY.

DOES THAT MEAN IF WE EXPAND US ONE DOES THAT MEAN WE NOW HAVE TO BUY THIS LAND THAT WE SOLD? DO WE NOW HAVE TO BUY IT AT A HIGHER RATE TO GET IT BACK IN ORDER TO EXPAND US ONE? BECAUSE I CAN SEE IN THE FUTURE US ONE WILL HAVE TO BE EXPANDED.

JUST LOOKING AHEAD, YOU WOULD SAY DOWNRANGE.

I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE THE LAND MYSELF AND NOT HAVE TO BUY IT.

LATER AT A HIGHER RATE.

OKAY. AND.

THE LAST PART OF THAT ONE WOULD BE.

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USING THE LAND AS SOME KIND OF ACTIVITY.

IF THE CITY WANTED TO DO IT, YOU COULD DO THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING IT JUST SITTING VACANT.

IT'S GOT THE LIFT STATION AND WE'VE GOT A WATER OUTFLOW STATION ON IT ALSO.

SO IT'S GETTING USE.

BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET LET THE CITIZENS ENJOY IT, EVEN IF IT WAS YOUR EDUCATION POINTS THAT HERE'S WHAT WE'RE USING.

HERE'S HERE IT IS.

BUT THAT'S JUST FOR HOW TO HAVE FUN WITH IT.

BUT AGAIN, $461,000.

DOES THAT GO TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND BECAUSE THIS IS VACANT LAND.

WE'RE SELLING IT.

DOES IT GO TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. THE PROCEEDS FOR A SURPLUS SALE LIKE THIS WOULD GO TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND.

IN TERMS OF WHAT TAXABLE VALUE WOULD GENERATE.

THAT'S UNKNOWN, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE FOR WHOEVER THE END PURCHASER WOULD BE OF THE PROPERTY.

US ONE WIDENING.

CERTAINLY. IF IF THERE WAS A PROJECT IN PLAY NOW, WE'D BE DISCUSSING THAT.

BUT THERE'S NOT ONE.

SO IN THE FUTURE, IF THE STATE DECIDED TO WIDEN US ONE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD DO ALL UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, MAYOR, IF I MAY CARRY ON AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DISCUSSION.

YOU KNOW YOU'RE A GENTLEMAN.

I HAVE NOTHING, I HAVE ANYTHING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. JUST A SECOND.

YEAH, YEAH. NO AS FAR AS 11, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

I'M A BIT AND.

THANK MR. BARTON BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF GOOD POINTS AND THE SAME QUESTION FOR STAFF AS WELL BECAUSE JUST THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY POTENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENS SHOULD US ONE EVER AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO EXPAND US ONE SO SO THIS ONE PARTICULARLY THAT'S ONE ONE FACTOR.

I'M NOT QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH DEEM IT AS A SURPLUS.

THAT'S ONE OF ONE OF THE KEY REASON I'M JUST NOT QUITE SEE THE IN TERMS OF THE VALUE EVEN FOR DEVELOPER, HOW THAT WOULD BE BEING SO CLOSE TO THE, TO THE SUCH A, YOU KNOW, SUCH A MAJOR HIGHWAY.

I'M NOT QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

NOT THAT I'M TOTALLY HARD AGAINST IT, BUT TO ME, I THINK IT'S JUST TOO, TOO SOON.

POTENTIALLY BECAUSE THAT CORRIDOR, AS WE'RE TRYING TO, TO BUILD THAT, DEVELOP THAT CORRIDOR, WHICH IS THE BMU PART OF THE BMU AND RIGHT IN THE DEAD CENTER OF IT AS WE GET DEVELOPMENT, I JUST FORESEE THAT MAYBE MIGHT BE A USE FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.

FOR THIS REASON, I WILL NOT BE IN SUPPORT OF IT, OBVIOUSLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD.

THE REASON WHY AS WELL.

NO, I JUST BECAUSE I HEAR WHAT THE TWO OF YOU ARE SAYING.

SO I'M. IT'S A VALID POINT.

IT'S A VALID POINT. IS THERE A REASON WHY WE WANT TO PUT A SURPLUS? SO WE RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITED OFFER FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHICH IS WHY WE EVEN BROUGHT IT WASN'T ON OUR LIST TO BEGIN WITH, BUT WE RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITED OFFER, WHICH IS COVERED IN YOUR AGENDA MEMO.

AND, YOU KNOW, OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE REASON FOR THE INTEREST IN THOSE LITTLE SLIVERS IS BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY GIVES WHOEVER OWNS THEM ACCESS TO THE THE BAYFRONT WATER AREA.

SO FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WATER AREA ITSELF, YOU KNOW, DOCKS, PIERS, ETC., THAT WOULD GIVE ACCESS TO IT.

SO THAT'S THE VALUE I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER SEES IN IT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MA'AM. APPRECIATE THAT.

SO I STILL HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. BANNON, OF COURSE.

I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE IS, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE'RE SPENDING $1.9 MILLION FOR THIS OR IN, IN A WAY, SPENDING OUR MONEY FOR THAT. BUT MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW MUCH IS THE BUILDER GOING TO MAKE? OFF OF THIS. YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T BUILD WITHOUT MAKING A PROFIT.

RIGHT. HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE BUILDER MAKE? AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS WE JUST SOLD.

WE JUST VOTED TO SELL EXCESS LAND.

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REVALUE, AND NOW WE'RE CONSIDERING GIVING EXCESS LAND AWAY.

AND I'M NOT FAULTING THE CONCEPT OF WHY WE'RE DOING IT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M FAULTING.

WHAT I'M FAULTING IS THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO MAINTAIN ROADS.

AND THIS IS A CASE OF WHERE WE HAVE.

OKAY, WELL, LET'S JUST SELL THE LAND TO THE DEVELOPER.

THE DEVELOPER BUILDS THE HOUSE AND WE ACCOMPLISHED THE TOTAL OBJECTIVE THIS WAY.

WE SOLD THE LAND INSTEAD OF JUST DONATING IT.

WE SOLD IT TO THE BUILDER.

THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY, AND THEN WE GET THAT FUNDS THAT WE WE NEEDED TO GO TOWARDS THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND INSTEAD OF JUST GIVING THE LAND AWAY.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A WAY WHERE WE CAN GENERATE SOME FUNDS TO HELP KEEP OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WORKING THE WAY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT I PROMISE YOU, EVERY TANK FULL OF THAT, OF THAT ROAD TREATMENT, THIS WOULD COVER ONE TANK FULL.

YEAH, IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

RIGHT. AND BOTTOM LINE WITH THAT ONE IS.

WILL IT GO TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND IF IT WAS SOLD? AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, HOW MUCH MONEY DOES THE BUILDER MAKE FROM THE THIS PROJECT? THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT ARE SCHEDULED TO GO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.

AND I BELIEVE NANCY IS COMING UP TO TALK.

THANK YOU. TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

WELL, I WILL SEE YOU AGAIN, NANCY.

SO THE FIRST TWO HOUSES, TYPICALLY WE ALLOW FOR A 7% DEVELOPER FEE.

THAT'S TYPICALLY WITH OUR HOME PROGRAM.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS WITH THE HOME PROGRAM.

FOR A THREE BEDROOM, THE MAXIMUM SALES PRICE IS 269,000.

IT ACTUALLY COSTS THE DEVELOPER ABOUT 315,000 TO BUILD THOSE TWO HOMES.

THEY APPRAISED AT ABOUT 300,000.

SO SHE ONLY ACTUALLY TOOK A 3% DEVELOPER FEE ON THOSE, WHICH REALLY I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MARKET RATE, I'M SURE THEY TAKE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO SAY IS THAT THEY WILL BE BUILT IMMEDIATELY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND THERE WILL BE A 20 YEAR LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, SO IT WILL KEEP IT AFFORDABLE FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS.

IF THE CITY DECIDED TO SELL THE PROPERTIES.

ONE, I CAN TELL YOU THERE'S INTEREST IN ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS ON SALINA, AND HE JUST WANTED TO EXPAND HIS YARD.

SO BY DONATING THE PROPERTY, YOU'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING A HOUSE VERSUS SOMEONE WHO MAY JUST BE INTERESTED IN EXPANDING THEIR THEIR YARD, WHICH REALLY ISN'T GOING TO GIVE YOU A LOT OF A TAX BASE.

WHEREAS HERE YOU'LL GET THE IMPACT FEES, WHICH WE ESTIMATE BETWEEN 12 AND 14,000.

YOU'LL HAVE A HOUSE THAT HAS AD VALOREM, AND THEN YOU'LL ALSO HAVE YOUR WATER AND SEWER.

AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL HOUSES COMING INTO YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MAYOR? YES. MAY I SPEAK TO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND? QUESTION? YES. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT ALTHOUGH THESE PROPERTIES ARE NOT BEING SOLD IN THE TRADITIONAL WAY FOR SURPLUS FOR GOING TO ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, I JUST WANTED TO STATE FOR ALL WHO ARE LISTENING THAT WE HAVE REALLY PIVOTED AWAY FROM THAT AS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF ANY KIND OF REVENUE GOING INTO THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, AND WE'RE NOW BUDGETING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EACH YEAR INTO THAT FUND SO THAT WE HAVE A GOOD, SOLID PLAN TO FUND OUR ROADS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND I'LL GO ON AND SAY I BELIEVE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS BETTER ATTAINED THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP, AND THERE'S A PRIDE THAT WILL COME FROM THAT.

AND THAT IS AN AVENUE FOR PROSPERITY FOR ALL FAMILIES.

REAL ESTATE.

SO I, I SUPPORT THIS VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PRODUCE A PRIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOME OWNERSHIP.

AND WE ACTUALLY GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR, IN OUR CITY.

SO I'LL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

SO MOVED GOT SECONDED, GOT DISCUSSION, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YOU KNOW I HAVE NOTHING.

THE MAYOR SAID IT ALL.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I MEAN, ONE ONE ASPECT OF THIS THIS ITEM, I I'M IN FULL SUPPORT.

I SEE THE INTENT.

AND CERTAINLY I'M IN SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND GIVE FAMILY OPPORTUNITY OTHERWISE THAT COULD NOT AFFORD YOU KNOW, FULL, FULL PRICE.

MY CHALLENGE IS, IS THE SECOND PROPERTY ON WASHINGTON.

QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I THINK YOU KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THAT.

SO AT CURRENT I MEAN, IT PREVIOUSLY HAD TENANT.

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RIGHT. YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT LEASED THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY.

YES, SIR. THE LITTLE GROWERS GROUP LEASED IT TO DO A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

AND THE CURRENT STATUS IS WHAT THE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM WAS TERMINATED.

THEY NEVER ACTUALLY DID PROVIDE A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

AND THEY ALSO DID NOT PAY THEIR ANNUAL LEASE PAYMENTS.

SO IT WAS CANCELED ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO, A MONTH OR SO AGO.

THAT'S GONE BY BY DEFAULT.

THEY JUST THEY DIDN'T COMPLETE THE TERMS? YES, SIR. DID THEY EVER HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO.

BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND I THINK I PARTICIPATED MAYBE 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO IN ONE OF THEIR EVENT THE FACE VALUE. THE LITTLE GIRL WRITES AN ORGANIZATION WHAT THEY DO.

THE INTENT IS GREAT. IT'S GROWING DISTRESS COMMUNITY TRY TO GROW THEIR OWN FOOD AND FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.

AND THAT'S THE BASE OF IT.

THE LITTLE THAT I KNOW, I KNOW, THEY PUT SOME GOOD, GREAT EVENT.

WHAT I'M CAREFUL IN DOING IS JUST TO PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

AND WE'RE TAKING AWAY ALTHOUGH WE, YOU KNOW, FOR GOOD PUTTING IT FOR GOOD PURPOSE FOR GOOD USE AFFORDABLE PUT IT TOWARDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BUT MY CONCERN IS DID WE TRY AND GIVE THAT ORGANIZATION EVERY OPPORTUNITY? DID WE OFFER TO THEM TO POTENTIALLY BUY IT OR DID WE HAVE CONVERSATION WITH THEM? AS FAR AS GIVE THEM FIRST OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN IN POSSESSION OF THAT PROPERTY FOR SO LONG? I DON'T KNOW WHERE AS FAR AS THEIR ORGANIZATION STRUCTURE, WHAT THEY DO, HOW ARE THEY DOING CURRENTLY? WHAT WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO.

DID WE TRY TO ALL THESE AVENUES OR GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY OR OFFER THEM IF THEY DECLINE YOU KNOW, FIRMLY DECLINE, THEN WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT, OKAY, THEY JUST MAYBE A REASON.

THERE'S A REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T RENEW THE LEASE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEASE IS.

ARE MUCH. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M NOT QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AND THE OTHER LAST THING I'D SAY ON THAT, IT'S QUITE SMALL STANDARD LOT IN PALM BAY'S.

BUT POINT 23.

RIGHT. THIS ONE IS POINT.

16, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF A HOUSE YOU CAN BUILD ON THAT IF YOU HAVE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS, ALL THE, YOU KNOW CURRENT BUILDING, YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENTS.

SO I SAID A LOT TO SAY.

THAT'S ANOTHER ONE I'M NOT QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE STAFF DID WHAT WE NEED.

WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND GIVE THAT ORGANIZATION AN OPPORTUNITY TO NON-FOR PROFIT.

YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY FACE VALUE.

I KNOW THEIR INTENT IS GOOD.

AND IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DO SO THAT THOSE ARE MY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN ANSWER.

SURE. I CAN SPEAK TO A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF NANCY HAS ANY OTHER HISTORY SHE WANTS TO SHARE, BUT YEAH.

SO WE CERTAINLY HAD AT LEAST ONE TIME THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT THE LITTLE GROWERS GROUP TRIED TO BUY THE PROPERTY.

IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

I THINK THEY OFFERED US $5,000, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

AND AT THE TIME WE WERE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT STORMWATER NEEDS FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO WE TOLD THEM THAT AT THE TIME, THE PROPERTY WASN'T FOR SALE.

YEAH. IN THE THREE YEARS THAT STAFF HAS KEPT ME UP TO DATE, THE THREE YEARS THAT THEY HAD IT UNDER LEASE, THEY'VE BEEN DOING A LOT, OF LOT OF PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THEY HAVE A PROPERTY IN MELBOURNE SOMEWHERE, AND SO THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION.

SO THEY'VE, THEY'VE NEVER REALLY DONE ANYTHING AT OUR SITE FOR THE TIME THAT THEY'VE LEASED IT, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT.

AND ALSO WE'VE HAD SOME, SOME RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO SEE THAT SITE BEING EITHER KEPT BY THE CITY OR DEVELOPED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME INTEREST FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA.

THE A LOT OF THE LOTS IN THAT AREA ARE SMALLER.

SO WE HAVE SEEN SUCCESSFUL BUILDS OF SMALLER TYPE HOMES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S VERY SMALL.

SO I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW ALL THAT WOULD WORK OUT.

SO QUESTION DID WE DID STAFF REACH OUT TO THEM? MISS MOTT, CAN WOULD YOU ANSWER THAT? CERTAINLY SIMILAR TO WHAT SUZANNE CITY MANAGER HAD MENTIONED WAS THEY DID OFFER $5,000 FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT IN DISCUSSIONS THEY HADN'T UP TO THAT POINT HAD BEEN A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AND NOTHING WAS REALLY MOVING ON THE PROPERTY.

SO IF THE CITY DECIDED TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO THE NONPROFIT, WE WOULD HAVE NO CONTROL AS TO WHETHER IT WOULD REMAIN A COMMUNITY GARDEN WHETHER THEY WOULD EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH IT, OR AT LEAST WITH THE LEASE AGREEMENT, WE HAD THAT OPTION TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YES, YOU NEED TO BUILD THIS COMMUNITY

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GARDEN AND AND HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTROL ON, ON THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE ISSUE IS THEY WANTED TO BUY IT, BUT THEN WE WOULD LOSE ANY CONTROL OF IT.

THEY COULD DO WHATEVER. I MEAN, LITERALLY THEY COULD BUY IT FOR $5,000 AND TURN AROUND AND SELL IT FOR 50,000, AND WE WOULD HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT ONCE, ONCE THEY DID THAT.

SO BUT IT IS BUILDABLE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF THOSE LOTS IN NORTH IN DRISCOLL HEIGHTS ARE SMALLER LIKE THAT, SO OUR DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE PLANS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND IT HAS CITY WATER AND SEWER.

THANK YOU. YEAH THAT'S FINE.

AND THE ONLY THING I STILL DIDN'T HEAR THE FACT THAT DID WE GIVE THEM A CALL AND I GET IT.

OBVIOUSLY THE DEFAULTED ON THEIR LEASE.

RIGHT. THEY DIDN'T PAY.

THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO RENEW THAT LEASE AND THEY DIDN'T DO THAT.

STILL REMAIN UNCOMFORTABLE WITH WITH GO AHEAD AND PUT THAT IN.

NOW ONCE WE DO THAT BY OUR ACTION TONIGHT, THEY WILL EVEN NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUY IT EVEN IF THEY WISH TO.

SO ALL ALL I'M SAYING IS IT WAS IT ANY FOLLOW UP? HEY, YOUR LEASE IS OVER.

THIS IS THE CITY'S INTENT.

THIS IS OUR DIRECTION.

ARE YOU GUYS NOT INTERESTED? THAT THAT JUST.

WHERE, WHERE I STAND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND JUST.

I'M JUST ONE VOTE.

BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE MY POSITION.

THAT'S MY POSITION.

I KNOW HOW COUNCIL FEEL ABOUT THAT.

I WILL OBVIOUSLY NOT SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT.

THIS IS BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS.

WELL, AND I WILL SAY THERE WASN'T A TELEPHONE CALL, BUT THE AGREEMENT PROVIDED THAT WE PROVIDE THEM A CERTIFIED LETTER.

SO WE DID FOLLOW THE AGREEMENT AND PROVIDING THEM NOTICE THAT WE WERE IT WAS A CERTIFIED LETTER SENT.

SO IT WASN'T INTEND TO TO CONTACT.

YEAH. OKAY. AND I WILL MENTION I GUESS THAT ANSWERED THE THERE IS ONE OTHER PROPERTY IN NORTHVIEW.

THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS ON DOCTOR HARVEY RILEY, AND THAT'S ALSO A SMALLER LOT.

IT'S IT'S NOT AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A HOUSE TO BE BUILT.

WE ORIGINALLY HAD ASKED THE CITY CITY COUNCIL TO SURPLUS IT, BUT WE'VE NOTICED NOW THAT THERE'S TWO TRIPLEXES IN BETWEEN THAT LOT.

SO THERE ARE OTHER LOTS.

AND OF COURSE, THE CITY HAS LOTS IN THE COMPOUND, SO THERE ARE OTHER LOTS.

IF LITTLE GROWERS DECIDED THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A COMMUNITY GARDEN, WE COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER THEM A DIFFERENT LOT.

I HAVE A QUESTION, MAYOR.

CARRY ON. THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENEW THEIR LIST, THE LEASE, AND THEY FAILED TO DO THAT.

CORRECT. THEY WERE TO MAKE PAYMENT BY OCTOBER 1ST, AND WE HAD NOT RECEIVED THAT PAYMENT.

AND THE PAYMENT WAS HOW MUCH? $10. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAKES SENSE TO ME.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE. AYE. PASSES ANY NAYS.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 13.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR..

OKAY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

CONSIDERATION OF REALLOCATING APPROVED FISCAL YEAR 2324 FUNDING FROM THE VAC AND CHASER TRUCKS.

RIGHT. NOW MY QUESTION IS IF WE'RE CHANGING WHAT WE WANT TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON, WHY DID WE, EVEN IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WHY DID THEY EVEN REQUEST THIS VACUUM TRUCK AND THE CHASER TRUCK TO COINCIDE WITH IT? IF EVIDENTLY WE DON'T NEED IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T ASK FOR SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T NEED IT WHEN YOU'RE BROKE.

IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, OH, WELL, WE DON'T NEED THAT $500,000 TRUCK, BUT INSTEAD WE NEED TWO NEW MOWERS.

I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THE TRENCHER COMING IN.

THAT MAKES SENSE. I SEE WHERE WE NEED THE TRENCHER RIGHT NOW TO DRAIN SOME OF THE DITCHES.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT I'M UPSET WITH THE FACT THAT WE.

SOMEBODY ASKED FOR SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED ON, WHICH WAS THIS VACUUM TRUCK FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T REALLY NEED, AND THAT THAT SOMEBODY REQUESTED IT. THAT'S THAT'S MY COMPLAINT WITH THIS ONE.

AND I WANTED TO MAKE MY ELECTED OFFICIALS EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THEY DIDN'T NEED TO BEGIN WITH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. WE DID NEED AND DO WANT THE VAC TRUCK AND CHASER TRUCK.

THIS WAS A BUDGETARY MISTAKE WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH THE SAME ITEM TWICE IN THE BUDGET.

ESSENTIALLY, IT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT DURING THE CIP PROCESS.

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600,000 AND CHANGE.

WE BROUGHT AN EARLY LIST OF CIP REQUESTS TO COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER BEFORE THE NEW FISCAL YEAR STARTED.

AND WE HAD OUR HIGH PRIORITY ITEMS ON IT.

AND THIS ITEM WAS ON THAT LIST AS WELL, AND IT NEVER GOT REMOVED IN THE BUDGET FROM THE ORIGINAL LIST.

SO ESSENTIALLY WE HAD THE SAME ITEM TWICE, BUT WE ONLY WANTED TO BUY ONE VAC TRUCK AND ONE CHASER TRUCK.

SO THAT FUNDING IS DUPLICATED IN THE BUDGET, AND WE'RE ASKING COUNCIL TO REALLOCATE IT TO OTHER NEEDS FOR THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I HI.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ON THIS PROCUREMENT MONTH.

[PROCUREMENTS:]

WE ARE ON OUR FIRST ITEM OF PROCUREMENT NUMBER ONE, MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

SO THIS ITEM IS A CONTINUATION OF SORTS OF SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHERE WE HAD A REBID OF THE PRE-QUALIFICATION FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER SERVICES.

THIS IS FOR AS WE PASSED MANDATORY CONNECTION.

WE'RE WORKING TO GET VENDORS ESTABLISHED ON THE CITY'S LIST WHO CAN HELP HOMEOWNERS CONVERT FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY, THIS ITEM CREATES A POOL OF VENDORS THAT WE WOULD USE FOR THESE PROJECTS.

AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING IF YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A LIST IN THERE, THERE ARE FOUR INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES WHO WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO BE AWARDED FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROCUREMENT ITEM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL.

DEPUTY MAYOR SPEAKER CARDS.

YEAH. MR. BILL. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE SIX ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE WAS MANDATORY CONNECTION.

YOU MADE THAT VOTE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DID.

EVEN KNOWING THAT YOU WERE YOU KNEW COMING DOWN THE PIKE WAS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE THE SEPTIC CONVERSION ALSO WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO UPGRADE THEIR SEPTICS.

RIGHT. SO THAT WAS KIND OF.

UPSETTING TO ME KNOWING THAT YOU KNEW THAT IN ADVANCE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

$2 MILLION TO ASSIST 140 HOMES.

RIGHT. FOR THEIR FOR THEIR CONNECTION TO CITY SEWER WHEN THEY'VE HAD IT AVAILABLE ALL ALONG.

YET THE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW ARE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH THEIR OWN BILL OF THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THEIR FOR THEIR UPGRADES AND THEIR SEPTIC TANK NOW. SO THAT ONE IS $2 MILLION FROM MY STATE TAX, ITEM NUMBER THREE 240.

I MEAN, SORRY, $420,000 FEDERAL TAX MONEY FOR SEPTIC FOR 21 UNITS.

SO YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THIS BUILD FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAD IT AVAILABLE.

THEY'RE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE COMING OUT AHEAD OF THIS.

EVEN THOUGH THEY COULD HAVE BEEN HOOKING UP ALL ALONG.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

1066 UNITS OUT OF THE INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP.

THAT LEAVES 905 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY HELP.

IT'S STARTING TO LOOK A LITTLE BIT LIKE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT TO ME.

NOW WITH THAT 100 900 PEOPLE REMAINING.

THAT'S WHERE THE CITY IS LOOKING AT A LOSS OF 7000.

I MEAN, $794,000 IN IMPACT FEES THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COLLECT.

SO THAT'S MONEY. OH, I DIDN'T EVEN NEED THAT.

SO WHY WHY WERE YOU EVEN TRYING TO COLLECT IT? YET THE CITY IS IS FILLING A $6 MILLION SHORTFALL WITH THE NEW MANDATORY SEPTIC CONVERSIONS THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO FACE IN OUR ON OUR WATER TREATMENT PLANT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

WHAT IS THE CITY'S ULTIMATE SOLUTION OR PLAN TO ALLEVIATE THIS MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM? IT'S EVEN BIGGER THAN THE $150 MILLION ROAD PROBLEM.

WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH AN ITEM NUMBER SIX.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS NOT TO HELP JUST A FEW, BUT TO USE THE FUNDS TO LOWER EVERYONE'S HOOKUP FEES OR CONVERSION EXPENSES. THAT WAY YOU'RE NOT DISPLAYING ANY PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT, BECAUSE HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHO GETS YOUR MONEY AND WHO DOESN'T? LET'S MAKE IT EQUAL NO PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO TACKLE A FEW OF THOSE? THANK YOU. MAYOR. I WILL DO MY BEST.

I GUESS THE BIG QUESTION ABOUT HOW WE'LL HANDLE THE MASSIVE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEM IN TERMS OF THE STATE'S NEW MANDATE RELATED TO MANDATORY.

EXCUSE ME, IN TERMS OF EITHER CONVERT TO THE NEW SEPTIC TANKS OR, YOU KNOW, EXPAND YOUR SEWER.

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WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION YET.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THE STATE, AND WE'VE DONE OUR INITIAL STUDY AS THEY REQUESTED US TO, AND WE, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS IN THE STATE, ARE DOING THE SAME THING.

SO WE'RE WE'RE SORT OF STILL WORKING THROUGH THEM, LOOKING TO SEE WHAT KIND OF FUNDING THE STATE PLANS TO GIVE US.

WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THAT YET, BUT DEFINITELY A HIGH, HIGH PRIORITY ISSUE.

IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, IT'S TRUE.

WE'RE ONLY IN THE VERY FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST AS MANY OF THE RESIDENTS AS WE CAN, BUT THAT REQUIRES FUNDING THAT WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO PURSUE WITH APPROPRIATIONS REQUESTS IN THE FUTURE, STATE FUNDING THROUGH GRANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO MOVE THE MANDATORY CONNECTION PROCESS ON FURTHER.

BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN REALLY SPEAK TO MUCH.

JUST JUST TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON BEHIND THE SCENES WITH THAT NEW SEPTIC TANK.

WHAT WE HEARD WHILE WE WERE IN TALLAHASSEE IS IT WAS THEY'RE ACKNOWLEDGING IT'S AGGRESSIVE.

IF YOU WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT.

SURE, SURE. SO THE STATE HAS BASICALLY, THERE'S A NEW STATE LAW THAT SAYS THAT BY 2030, I BELIEVE THAT ALL SEPTIC TANKS SHOULD BE CONVERTED TO A NEWER TYPE OF MODEL THAT WILL COST ACTUALLY ABOUT THE SAME AS IT WOULD COST TO CONNECT YOU TO CITY SEWER, WHICH IS INTERESTING, 20 TO $30,000 KIND OF RANGE.

SO THAT 2030 MANDATE, IT'S COME DOWN TO ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY IT SAYS YOU EITHER HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO BRING SEWER TO ALL OF YOUR CUSTOMERS AND GET THEM CONNECTED, GET THEM OFF OF OLD SEPTIC TANKS OR EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS HAVE TO BE CONVERTED TO THE NEW TREATMENT PROCESS.

AND BOTH CHOICES, NEITHER OF THOSE WOULD BE DONE BY 2030.

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. IT'S NOT A NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SOLVE OVERNIGHT, AND WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO WORK WITH THE STATE FOR YEARS TO COME TO TRY TO COME UP WITH STRATEGIES THAT MAKES THIS FEASIBLE FOR EVERYONE TO DO.

RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO STATE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR IT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

AND OF COURSE, FROM THE CITY STANDPOINT, WE WOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT PEOPLE ONTO CITY SEWER VERSUS CHANGE OUT THEIR OLDER SEPTIC TANKS.

AND WHAT WE'RE HEARING AS WELL BEHIND THE SCENES IS THAT THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THIS IS A BIT AGGRESSIVE, THAT THAT'S ONE THING.

AND THE SECOND POINT TO TAKE NOTE IS NOT ONLY IS IT AGGRESSIVE, BUT THEY REALIZE THAT A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES WEREN'T IN OUR POSITION. WE HAVE A PLAN ALREADY, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.

MUNICIPALITIES KIND OF LIKE JUMPSUIT TO TO START A PLAN.

SO THAT'S THE FEEDBACK WE GOT BEHIND THE SCENES IN TALLAHASSEE AND OUR LAST VISIT.

SO IT WAS A MIXTURE OF THEY WANTED TO PUSH THAT OUT BECAUSE A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AND COMMUNITIES WERE NOT MAKING A PLAN. BUT WE'RE AHEAD OF THE GAME THERE.

AND THEY, THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THEY'RE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGING THIS IS TOO AGGRESSIVE FOR OUR CITY AND THE WHOLE STATE.

SO THAT'S THE BEHIND THE SCENES I WANTED TO SHARE WITH MASTER CHIEF.

SO NOW YEAH.

OKAY, SO.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL. MY NAME IS RANDALL SHEFSKY.

I LIVE AT 348 BROOK EDGE STREET, NORTHEAST.

I'M HOOKED TO CITY SEPTIC AND.

EXCUSE ME, CITY SEWER AND CITY WATER.

MY CURRENT MONTH'S UTILITY BILL WAS IN THE $190 RANGE FOR MY THREE HUMAN HOUSEHOLD.

BUT I PAY IT WITH PRIDE.

BECAUSE I'M HAPPY TO FLUSH MY TOILET AND NEVER THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

I HAVE NEIGHBORS DOWN THE STREET THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, THEY FLUSH THEIR TOILETS, AND THEY DO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

AND THEY ACTUALLY PUMP, WELL, WATER UP AND HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO AERATE THAT AND GET THE SULFUR OUT AND MAKE IT PALATABLE FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

BUT WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS NUMEROUS NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF EARLY PROGRAMS. THROUGH THE VENDOR DRAIN MECHANICS ALL UP AND DOWN THE EL JOHN CORRIDOR.

I LIVE ON EL JOHN BETWEEN AMERICANA AND MALABAR, WHICH IS HORRIBLY UNPAVED AND HAS HORRIBLE POTHOLES, BUT I DIGRESS.

EVERY WAY YOU GO DOWN THAT STREET, YOU'RE WITHIN RANGE OF SEEING A SIGN OF DRAIN MECHANICS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO GET THOSE CUSTOMERS HOOKED UP TO OUR SYSTEM.

THAT'S GOOD. SO MY CONVERSATION TO THIS PARTICULAR PROCUREMENT ITEM IS THAT THE PROPOSITION IS TO AUTHORIZE THESE FOUR VENDORS TO BE PREAPPROVED, PREQUALIFIED, PREFERRED VENDORS TO GET THE BUSINESS AS IT FLOWS.

I OBJECT TO THAT.

I THINK THAT THE ONLY VENDOR THAT SHOULD BE QUALIFIED AT THIS CURRENT TIME IS DRAIN MECHANICS.

THE REASON BEING, THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE RATING NEEDED TO MOVE ON WAS 70 POINTS.

THE ONLY ONE THAT DID RECEIVE 70 POINTS WAS DRAIN MECHANICS.

IN ADDITION, THE THREE NEXT RUNNERS UP.

THAT PROCUREMENT, UNDERSTANDABLY, BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR FOUR VENDORS IS PRESENTING, ARE LOCATED IN PALM CITY, WHICH IS IN MARTIN COUNTY.

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THAT'S VERY FAR AWAY, ORLANDO, WHICH IS IN ORANGE COUNTY, THAT'S A GOOD WAYS AWAY.

AND IN MELBOURNE, WHICH I'M GLAD TO SEE, IS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S TOO FAR AWAY.

WE'VE LEARNED JUST FROM DRAIN MECHANICS IN PARTICULAR THE IMPACT THAT KEEPING THESE FUNDS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY CAN HAVE.

YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE PEOPLE THAT DRIVE THAT MACHINERY, THAT DIG THOSE HOLES, THAT DO THIS PROCESS LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO WHEN THE GRANT MONEY GOES TO THAT COMPANY AND IT GOES TO THOSE PEOPLE'S PAYCHECKS, THAT MONEY IS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST PEOPLE WANTING TO MAKE A DOLLAR AND COME TO US FROM ORLANDO OR FROM MARTIN COUNTY, BUT I DON'T WANT THESE DOLLARS TO LEAVE BREVARD COUNTY, BUT I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THEM TO LEAVE PALM BAY.

THERE IS MULTIPLE SEPTIC PROVIDERS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY TODAY, AND I THINK THAT THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY DIDN'T BID IS A LACK OF AWARENESS.

AND I APPRECIATE THE AWARENESS THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT 1800 PEOPLE WERE CONTACTED, WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DIG TO DRUM UP PALM BAY BASED BUSINESS TO TAKE THIS ON, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE EXPANDED SEPTIC SYSTEMS, THOSE COME WITH MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.

SO IF OUR VENDORS ARE COMING IN OUT OF MARTIN COUNTY AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, THE FOLKS THAT NEED SERVICES ABOVE AND BEYOND GETTING HOOKED TO OUR SOURCE SERVICES HAVE LESS OPTIONS. WE NEED TO DRIVE AND INVIGORATE THE SEPTIC COMPANIES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE RESOURCES, TO GET THEMSELVES OFF THE GROUND SO THEY CAN BETTER HELP US ADDRESS OUR FUTURE NEEDS, SUCH AS THE MORE SOPHISTICATED SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO I DO REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE DRAIN MECHANICS AND NOT THE OTHER VENDORS.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED WE'LL JUST VERY BRIEFLY.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE MORE PROCUREMENT BACKGROUND, WE CAN BRING UP GEORGE.

BUT BUT WE ACTUALLY NEED MORE THAN ONE VENDOR ON THIS BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF CONNECTIONS WE'RE GOING TO DO AND THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SELECTING THAT'S WHY WE REBID IT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE NEEDED.

SO YEAH, I THINK THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE REBID IT WAS BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD ONE.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC.

THEN IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE STILL REACH OUT TO THOSE STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND STILL REACH OUT TO WHAT RANDALL MENTIONED WAS OUR LOCAL COMPANIES HERE, OR WERE THEY ALL NOTIFIED AND GIVEN ENOUGH NOTICE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW, GEORGE.

MAYBE HE HAS A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHO WAS NOTIFIED.

I KNOW A LOT. A LOT OF COMPANIES RECEIVED THE INFORMATION.

BUT ONCE YOU MAKE A DECISION ON AWARD TONIGHT, IT CLOSES THIS OUT.

AND UNTIL WE REBID, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD BE OUR POOL OF VENDORS.

HI, MR. OBAMA. GOOD EVENING.

SO, YEAH, WE WE SOLICITED THIS AND WE PUT IT OUT THROUGH VENDORLINK, WHICH IS OUR SOLICITATION MECHANISM.

AND EVERYBODY THAT COULD BE CAPTURED THAT PERFORMS THIS TYPE OF SERVICE.

WE THINK WE WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THEM.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MORE OUTREACH WE COULD HAVE DONE.

BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS WAS A REBID.

SO IF THERE WAS ANYONE LOCALLY THAT WE MISSED OUT ON, IT WAS UNFORTUNATELY NOT DUE TO US TRYING ON OUR PART.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT.

IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION NOW, IS THERE IS THERE A SPECIFIC SET OF SKILLS? IS IT NOW I KNOW THERE'S A FEW, YOU KNOW, SEPTIC COMPANIES THAT PROVIDE THAT SERVICE IS THERE BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHY MOST OF THEM WERE RATED LOWER.

IS THERE A SPECIFIC SKILL SET OR.

I'M NOT FULLY AWARE OF THE SERVICE THAT WE WE NEED WITH THE WITH THE WHOLE THING THAT THIS IS NOT A COMPANY THAT JUST.

EXCEPT THE COMPANY THAT'S OUT THERE.

NOT EVERY SEPTIC COMPANY CAN PROVIDE THAT SPECIFIC SERVICE.

IS THAT CORRECT? DID WE FIND SOME LITTLE UTILITIES? DIRECTOR COULD PROBABLY HELP ME, BUT I BELIEVE OUR REQUIREMENT WAS A A QUALIFIED OR CERTIFIED PLUMBING.

THAT WAS A QUALIFICATION FOR THIS.

SO ANYONE THAT COULD FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE A SUBMITTAL FOR THIS.

SO WE, WE THAT, THAT KIND OF GO AGAINST THE TRADITIONAL SEPTIC COMPANY SOMEWHAT.

NOT ALL OF THEM CAN NECESSARILY PROVIDE THAT SPECIFIC.

I'M NOT AS WELL VERSED IN THAT, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING. YEAH. MAYBE WE'LL HAVE THE UTILITIES DIRECTOR CHRIS LITTLE COME UP.

THANK YOU. GEORGE.

BEING IN THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, WE GENERALLY DON'T DEAL WITH SEPTIC TANKS.

HOWEVER, YOU NEED TO HAVE A PLUMBING LICENSE IN ORDER TO PROPERLY DECOMMISSION RECONNECT WORK ON THESE TANKS.

SO HAVING A PLUMBING LICENSE IS CRITICAL FOR THIS PROJECT.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, CORRECT? IT WAS A REQUIREMENT, YES.

UNDERSTOOD. SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT TAILORED THE OUTCOME.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. SO THAT GIVES CLEARER UNDERSTANDING.

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OKAY. WELL, I'VE JUST I NEED A MOTION.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, SIR.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? COUNCILMAN FOSTER. IS A PROCESS AND.

WE WORK THE PROCESS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH THESE FOUR.

I DON'T HAVE AND THAT'S THAT'S.

NOW SCOOT WITH ME. I'M SATISFIED.

SIR, ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? JUST JUST A QUESTION.

I'M I SUPPORTED, I UNDERSTAND.

BUT DO WE EVER LOOK AT A CORRELATION BETWEEN, LIKE, OUR ACTIVE BETTORS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND VENDORS THAT HAVE APPLIED? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, ACTUALLY.

DOO DOO.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, ACTUALLY.

ACTUALLY, I'LL HAVE JULIET ANSWER THAT FOR US ONLY BECAUSE I WAS HERE PROBABLY BEFORE GEORGE EVEN HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THIS.

SO NOT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT.

SO, NO, WE HAVE NOT ACTIVELY CORRELATED OUR IN-HOUSE WITH SOLICITATION VENDOR LISTS THAT WE DEVELOPED.

WE CALLED THEM SUPPLEMENTAL VENDORS SO WE CAN DO THAT EXTRA OUTREACH.

BUT I KNOW THAT ONE THING THAT WE DID DO THAT WAS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ON THIS ONE IS WE LOOKED AT ANYONE WHO WOULD QUALIFY IN PALM BAY THAT WAS ACTIVELY REGISTERED WITH VENDOR LINK AS A PLUMBING LICENSE.

SO IF ANY BUSINESS HAS EVER BEEN INTERESTED IN DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY THAT HAS PLUMBING AS A CATEGORY, THEY WOULD THEY WERE INTERESTED IN WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT THE COUNTY'S PRE-QUALIFICATION LIST, WE ALSO MADE SURE TO DO EXTRA OUTREACH TO THOSE PRE-QUALIFIED VENDORS AS WELL, BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT ALREADY.

AND MOST OF THEIR VENDORS THAT THEY HAVE ARE A MIX OF IN COUNTY AND OUT OF COUNTY AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OR.

YEAH, DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS THE AGREEMENT FOR THE LAND SWAP WITH MR. DIAZ, WHO OWNS A PARCEL RIGHT NEXT TO A CITY PARCEL IN THE VICINITY OF MALABAR IN THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ACRE FOR ACRE SWAP THAT GIVES THE CITY THE LAND THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE FUTURE WIDENING OF MALABAR IN THAT AREA, AS WELL AS THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTH.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

SPEAKER CARDS. DEPUTY MAYOR, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.