Mar 21, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

AYE. OKAY, SO NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM ONE IS NOW MOVED TO AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OKAY, MADAM SMITH? NO, SIR. NO.

NO REVISIONS.

NO. OKAY. WE'RE ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS]

SO I'D LIKE TO CALL UP SEAN BROOKS.

AND CRYSTAL.

IS CRYSTAL HERE, TOO? SHE JUST STEPPED OUTSIDE.

DO NOT. THAT'S OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I LOVE WHEN CHILDREN SING.

SHE'S JUST SINGING RIGHT NOW.

WHAT A SWEET SOUND.

COME ON UP HERE. SO THIS IS THE MAYOR'S SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM.

ACTUAL WINNERS.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED.

IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS AMAZING GLADES IS RECOGNIZED AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM RECIPIENT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF 2024.

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WHEREAS AMAZING GLAZE IS LOCATED.

TAKE NOTE OF THIS 3440 JUPITER BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST UNIT NUMBER FIVE HAS BEEN A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED ESTABLISHED BUSINESS IN PALM BAY SINCE FEBRUARY 2023.

WHEREAS AMAZING GLAZE IS A PAINT YOUR OWN POTTERY STUDIO WHERE INDIVIDUALS OF ALL AGES CAN UNLEASH THEIR ARTISTIC TALENTS.

BOY, DO I NEED HELP WITH MY ARTISTIC TALENTS BY PAINTING A VARIETY OF CERAMIC PIECES SUCH AS MUGS, PLATES, BOWLS, FIGURINES AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.

AND WHEREAS AMAZING GLAZE HAS SHOWN BUSINESS GROWTH IN THEIR PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT, REVENUE, CUSTOMERS AND WORKFORCE, AND WHEREAS AMAZING GLAZE IS INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY BY ACTIVELY SUPPORTING SCHOOLS, ACTIVELY SUPPORTING CHURCHES, NONPROFITS THROUGH VARIOUS DONATIONS AND SPONSORSHIPS, THEY HOST FIELD TRIPS, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, LARGE GROUPS, AND A MONTHLY LEGO MEETUP FOR CHILDREN OF ALL AGES.

THEY EVEN BRING JOY OF PAINTING TO ELDERLY HOUSING COMMUNITIES TO PROMOTE INCLUSIVITY.

LISTEN, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS AS A TEAM BUILDING PROJECT AS WELL.

WHEREAS AMAZING GLAZE PROVIDES CITIZENS OF PALM BAY A SPACE TO ENJOY FAMILY TIME WITH LOVED ONES AND CREATE LIFELONG MEMORIES.

THEY HAVE MAINTAINED HIGH RATINGS AND REVIEWS ACROSS VARIOUS WEBSITES SUCH AS GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, AND YELP, AND ARE OFTEN REFERRED TO AS A THERAPEUTIC EXPERIENCE.

I THINK WE ALL COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF THERAPEUTIC EXPERIENCE BY THEIR CUSTOMERS, AND WHEREAS AMAZING GLAZE IS INNOVATIVE IN THAT ABOUT 30% OF THEIR CERAMICS ARE MADE ON SITE, GIVING THEM THE ABILITY TO CUSTOMIZE PIECES FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS.

THE THEIR FUTURE GOAL IS TO OFFER A COMPREHENSIVE EXPERIENCE WHERE INDIVIDUALS CAN FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING THEIR OWN CERAMICS THROUGH SCULPTING OR WHEEL TURNING.

KIND OF LIKE THAT MOVIE, RIGHT WHERE THEY I JUST HAD THAT VISUAL WHERE THE CLAY IS GOING.

YEAH. YOU SNUGGLE.

OH, WOW, THAT THAT'D BE GREAT FOR MARRIAGES TOO, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE. THAT'S AWESOME.

NOW THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY HAS SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THAT AMAZING GLAZE IS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S RECIPIENT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE YEAR, 2024 FOR THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM AND WITNESS HEREOF, I SET MY RIGHT HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 21ST DAY OF MARCH, 2024.

COME ON UP, SIR.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS. SO, YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT.

I DIDN'T PREPARE A SPEECH.

I JUST WAS GOING TO GO WITH WHATEVER YOU KNOW, CAME TO HEART I GUESS I GUESS GOING INTO THIS, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANY BIG EXPECTATIONS OF OF HAVING YOU KNOW, MAYOR'S SPOTLIGHT AWARD OR THE GROWTH.

WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD COME AND HAVE FUN WITH THEIR FAMILY AND ENJOY THE ATMOSPHERE.

WE WE SET A GOAL TO INFLUENCE THE COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

AND I WORKED REALLY HARD ON GETTING INTO A LOT OF THE ELDERLY HOMES AND INTO THE SCHOOLS.

IT'S NOT EASY KNOCKING ON THE DOORS AND, YOU KNOW, SENDING A BUNCH OF EMAILS OUT AND WHO KNOWS WHERE THEY GO.

BUT YOU JUST GOT TO CONTINUE KNOCKING, AND EVENTUALLY THE DOORS DO OPEN.

SO THANKS.

AGAIN. COME ON, COME ON, LET ME GO GET HER REAL QUICK.

OKAY? WE'RE GOING TO GET HER REAL QUICK.

CAN SHE HEAR? CAN SHE COME IN? YEAH. IT'S OKAY IF HE SINGS WITH US.

EXCUSE ME. OKAY.

WELL, THEN. YEAH, WELL, SHE'S THE BOSS.

DOES SHE COME HERE? SHE'S COMING.

SHE'S BRINGING THE KIDS. WHAT DO YOU WANT? COME ON OVER. IT'S OKAY IF SHE SINGS.

SHE'S JUST. NO.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ONCE YOU.

THANK YOU. THANKS AGAIN, MISS CHURCH.

YEAH. SORRY. CONGRATULATIONS.

GREAT SEEING YOU AGAIN. HEY, I'LL BE SEEING YOU.

I'LL BE SEEING YOU SHORTLY.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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OKAY, MADAM SHERMAN, WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS.

[PRESENTATIONS]

I DEFER TO YOU.

THANK YOU. SIR.

THIS FIRST PRESENTATION, I'LL BRING UP MR. CHRIS EVERS WITH PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY.

HE'S GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION ON THE PHOTOCATALYTIC REJUVENATION AND AN EPA GRANT THAT THE CITY IS CONSIDERING APPLYING FOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY TODAY.

MY NAME IS CHRIS EVERS.

I'M THE TECHNICAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR PAVEMENT TECHNOLOGY, INC., AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS.

OH THANK YOU. YEAH, THAT THAT IS IMPORTANT.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IS SOMETHING CALLED PHOTOCATALYTIC PAVEMENT PRESERVATION TREATMENTS FROM SOURCE TO SINK.

AND SO I'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF.

WE'LL GO THROUGH HERE.

BASICALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A AN OPPORTUNITY FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY CALLED THE CLIMATE CLIMATE POLLUTION REDUCTION GRANT.

AND THAT IS A $4.3 BILLION FUND.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH IT VERY QUICKLY.

SO FIRST IS A SHORT VIDEO.

HOPEFULLY THE VOLUME IS NOT TOO LOUD.

OH THAT'S OKAY.

WE'LL SKIP THAT. YEAH THAT'S OKAY.

OKAY. SO FROM THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM, WE ALL KNOW THAT EMISSIONS FROM THE TAILPIPE CAUSE A LOT OF SOCIETIES PROBLEMS, WHETHER THAT BE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, WHETHER THAT BE AIR POLLUTION, WHETHER THAT BE NOW IT'S WE TALK ABOUT MICROPLASTIC POLLUTION.

AND THOSE ROADS ALSO CREATE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.

AND CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT IMMUNE TO HERE IN FLORIDA.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAIN MAJORITY NOW OF THE PROBLEM COMES FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR WITH RENEWABLE ENERGY THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND SO WHAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED IS OPPORTUNITIES TO TARGET THIS THROUGH THIS EPA GRANT.

SO THE FUTURE COULD BE NOW.

AND WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

CERTAINLY IN PALM BAY AS WE ALL KNOW, CARBON REDUCTION IS A HOT TOPIC RIGHT NOW.

AND THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING SOMETHING CALLED CARBON AVOIDANCE.

AND THAT IS WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, WHERE YOU'VE BEEN SPRAY APPLYING THAT PINK MATERIAL THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, WHICH EXTENDS THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT, WHICH THEREFORE MEANS THAT BY DOUBLING THAT PAVEMENT LIFE, WE DON'T HAVE THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS THAT OCCUR FROM CONTINUALLY REPAVING THOSE SAME ROADS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO WHAT THIS WOULD MEAN IS TAKING THAT A STEP FURTHER TO BECOME ONE OF THE FIRST COMMUNITIES, CERTAINLY THE FIRST TO ACHIEVE A EPA GRANT, BUT THAT WOULD BE TO RETROFIT THESE EXISTING PAVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE THAT ARE IN GOOD CONDITION, THAT YOU'VE BEEN INVESTING ALL THIS MONEY INTO AND TURN THOSE INTO SMOG EATING ROADS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

NOW THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE THIS IS A FIRST FOR ANYBODY.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES JUST VERY BRIEFLY, THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEPLOYING THIS TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT WOULD BE A FIRST, AND THAT THE EPA HAS NEVER FUNDED THIS TYPE OF AN APPROACH TO CAPTURE CARBON BEFORE.

BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE ROAD CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES, AND CERTAINLY YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF THEM IN PALM BAY SINCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOND PASSED, AND IT'S BEEN GOING VERY WELL THAT I THAT I CAN TELL.

SO THAT APPROACH IS REALLY HARNESSING WHAT'S CALLED PHOTOCATALYSIS.

AND IF WE CAN ALL PUT OUR KIND OF HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE HATS ON, WHAT PHOTOCATALYSIS IS, IS BASICALLY SIMILAR TO PHOTOSYNTHESIS, WHERE WE'RE USING THE POWER OF THE SUN ONCE IT IMPACTS A ROAD THAT'S BEEN TREATED WITH A WHAT WOULD BE A CATALYST OR A PHOTOREACTIVE MATERIAL.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S CALLED TITANIUM DIOXIDE.

ONCE IT HITS THE THE SUNLIGHT HITS THAT PAVEMENT, IT CREATES THIS EXCITED ELECTRON KIND OF ENERGY FIELD AND THAT AUTOMATICALLY CAPTURES CO2, NOX EMISSIONS.

IT DECOMPOSES TIRE AND BRAKE WEAR PARTICLES.

AND IT ALSO REFLECTS URBAN HEAT FROM THE PAVEMENT.

SO THIS SOLAR POWERED KIND OF DECARBONIZATION TOOL COMES AS PART OF WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING HERE IN THE CITY.

AND THAT BREVARD COUNTY IS ALREADY PERFORMING AS WELL.

SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF FIELD TESTING THROUGHOUT.

SO WE KNOW THAT THIS WORKS.

WE'VE TESTED IT THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN WINNING AWARDS, WHETHER IT'S IN RALEIGH OR EVEN CHARLESTON COUNTY NATIONAL AWARDS AS WELL.

BUT SOME OF THESE REDUCTIONS CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 30 TO AS MUCH AS 60% OF CARBON AND NOX EMISSIONS.

AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TARGETING A LOT OF PAVEMENTS THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN RESURFACED.

SO ONE OF THE BENEFITS IS THIS IS 100% GRANT FUNDED, SO THERE'S NO MATCH REQUIRED.

SO THE CITIES YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CO-BENEFITS TO THE CITY IS NOT ONLY ARE YOU CLEANING UP THE CITY AND PROVIDING CLEAN AIR ESPECIALLY IN DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES,

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BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE GETTING THE REJUVENATING EFFECTS OF WHAT YOU'RE ALREADY DOING, PAID FOR BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

AND THAT WOULD EQUATE TO A POTENTIALLY ANYWHERE FROM 1.5 TO $2 MILLION COST SAVINGS ANNUALLY TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY FROM 2025 TO 2030. SO THE EXPECTED SAVINGS TO THE CITY IS QUITE SUBSTANTIAL.

AND OF COURSE, BREVARD COUNTY BEING THE CO-APPLICANT TO THIS WOULD ALSO SEE SIMILAR SAVINGS.

SO WHAT IS GOING ON? WE'RE WE'RE BASICALLY CREATING ALMOST THIS INVISIBLE POWERED BY THE SUN, YOU KNOW, DE POLLUTANT SUBWAY KIND OF OF OF SPHERE OF INFLUENCE WHERE ANY, YOU KNOW, IRRITANT THAT OCCURS WITHIN RANGE OF THE PAVEMENT IS DECOMPOSED INSTANTLY.

AND SO WHAT THAT DOES IS AND THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF RESEARCH DONE THAT I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND A TON OF TIME ON.

BUT WHAT IN ESSENCE IT'S DOING IS REMOVING THESE CARBON AND NOX EMISSIONS FROM THE ATMOSPHERE, DIRECTLY CAPTURING THOSE.

AND THEN THEY WASH OFF THE PAVEMENT AND IN HARMLESS FORMAT OF CARBONATES, NITRATES, WHICH COINCIDENTALLY, THOSE WOULD BE PLANT FOOD.

SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS FEEDING THE NEAR ROAD VEGETATION WITH THE BYPRODUCTS OF THIS PROCESS, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING.

SO I DON'T THINK THE VIDEOS ARE WORKING THIS TIME.

MAYBE THOSE LINKS ARE DEAD, BUT IN ESSENCE, I'M JUST GOING TO VERY BRIEFLY IN THE REMAINING TIME WE HAVE JUST ANSWER, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GO THROUGH SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE PROGRAM. SO AS I SAID, THERE WAS A $250 MILLION PLANNING GRANT THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL, AND THAT AUTOMATICALLY MADE THIS AREA, BOTH BREVARD COUNTY AND ITS COMMUNITIES LIKE PALM BAY, ELIGIBLE FOR THIS GRANT.

THE SECOND PHASE IS THE $4.3 BILLION THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, APPLICABLE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.

OR THE CITY WOULD BE LOOKING AT THESE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION MEASURES.

SO AS I MAY HAVE SAID, THERE'S DIFFERENT TIERS.

SO THE TIER D IS WHAT'S EXPECTED FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY COALITION.

AND THAT IS BETWEEN 10 AND $50 MILLION OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

SO IT'S A VERY SIGNIFICANT SUM OF MONEY.

AND THE EPA IS REALLY INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT VERY INNOVATIVE WAYS THAT THEY CAN TACKLE THESE VERY DIFFICULT PROBLEMS, LIKE CARBON EMISSIONS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR.

SO JUST AS I GO THROUGH, HERE'S JUST A GRAPHIC OF THE ELIGIBLE COMMUNITIES WITHIN FLORIDA.

YOU CAN SEE FLORIDA'S GRAYED OUT.

THE STATE IS NOT ELIGIBLE, BUT THE CITIES ARE.

AND SO AS WE KIND OF FINISH UP, THE IMPORTANT PART TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT THIS COALITION IS BETWEEN THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY IS THE LEAD APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.

AND SO ALL THAT'S REQUIRED IS A LETTER OF INTENT OR A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE.

THAT'S REALLY ALL THAT'S REQUIRED.

SHOULD THE COALITION NOT RECEIVE FUNDING, NOTHING ELSE GOES ANY FURTHER.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT JUST CONTINUES THE WAY IT HAS BEEN CONTINUING.

SO AS FAR AS THE KEY GRANTS, APRIL 1ST IS COMING AROUND THE CORNER.

SO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

SO THAT IS KEY.

THERE'S ALSO PLANNING TOOLS THAT WE'RE USING FROM THE EPA, SUCH AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE SCREENING TOOL.

AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE FIND LOW INCOME AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES, CENSUS TRACKS, AND WE'LL BE TARGETING AT LEAST 40% OF THESE FUNDS IN THESE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DISADVANTAGED.

AND THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT THESE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES TYPICALLY HAVE LESS VEGETATION.

THEY USUALLY SUFFER FROM MORE URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT BECAUSE THERE IS NO CANOPY EFFECT WITH THE VEGETATION.

AND SO THAT REFLECTIVE HEAT, OR THE FACT THAT THE THE ROADS ARE NOT GOING TO HOLD AS MUCH HEAT IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE SOME EXTREME HEAT RELIEF TO DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, OFTENTIMES THERE IS A BENEFIT, INSOMUCH AS THESE DECOMPOSITION OF MICROPLASTICS MEAN THAT THESE MICROPLASTICS ARE NOT GOING TO BE GETTING INTO, YOU KNOW, WHERE OUR CHILDREN PLAY AROUND SCHOOLS, PLAYGROUNDS, THEY'RE EVERYWHERE.

AND THEY ACTUALLY TURN INTO PARTICULATE THAT WE THEN BREATHE IN.

AND SO THAT'S A KEY PIECE OF THAT.

SO THE COALITION IS IDENTIFYING THESE CENSUS TRACKS, AND THEY'RE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT FOLLOWS THE GUIDELINES FROM THE EPA.

AND JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME FINAL THOUGHTS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS, THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER IS THESE CO-BENEFITS GO WITH WHAT THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS EXTENDING THE LIFE OF THESE ASPHALT PAVEMENTS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND MORE ON DOWN THE ROAD ONCE THE INFRASTRUCTURE BOND IS COMPLETED.

WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND RESURFACE THESE ROADS AS FREQUENTLY.

AND THEN THESE CO-BENEFITS OBVIOUSLY ARE MAKING FOR, YOU KNOW, CLEANER AIR, LESS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, WHICH AFFECTS CLIMATE CHANGE AND LESS AIR POLLUTANTS THAT ARE

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HAZARDOUS TO THE HEALTH OF OUR CITY OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

I KNOW I COVERED A LOT IN TEN MINUTES, SO WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

SO THE VERY FIRST THING I'M GOING TO ASK IS YOU STATED THAT THIS WILL CAPTURE THE CO2 AS THE VEHICLES DRIVE ON THESE PAVEMENTS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU APPLY THIS, IT'S A REJUVENATION PROCESS FOR OUR.

TO MAKE THEM LAST LONGER.

THAT'S CORRECT. YEP.

AND SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS THIS IS A NO MATCH GRANT FUNDING, RIGHT? 100% TO INCREASE THE LIFE OF OUR ROADS, OF OUR QUARTERS.

RIGHT. AND THEN IF IF THIS PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL.

RIGHT. IF YOU DO PARTNER WITH US, DOES IT INCORPORATE ALL OUR ROADS OR JUST A CERTAIN SECTION? DID I CATCH THAT RIGHT? YEAH. NO YOU DID.

SO THE THE POINT WOULD BE THAT WE ARE MANDATED TO OR HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO MEET THIS 40% BASICALLY INCORPORATION THROUGH THE JUSTICE40 INITIATIVE.

AND SO ALL FEDERAL FUNDING IS REQUIRED TO LOOK AT THAT.

SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST 40% MEETS THAT DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY GUIDELINE AND THEN WORK BACKWARDS.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN 60% COULD BE THE REST.

WE THINK IT COULD, YOU KNOW, EQUATE BETWEEN THE CITY AND COUNTY TO, TO BE OVER 1000 LANE MILES OF PAVEMENT TREATED UNDER THIS PROGRAM.

IT WILL DEPEND ON HOW MANY ROADS ARE ELIGIBLE WITHIN THE DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES THOUGH.

SO THAT'S MUNICIPAL ROADS, MUNICIPAL NOT TO INCLUDE STATE ROADS.

MUNICIPAL NO. COUNTY ROADS.

OKAY. THE COALITION IS ONLY CITY OF PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY.

I MIGHT ADD THAT THAT BOTH OF YOU ARE LEADERS IN THE SPACE AS FAR AS PRESERVING YOUR ASSETS AND THE REALLY THE THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS THAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ADDING TO THIS PHOTOCATALYTIC REACTION.

WE'RE ALREADY YOU'RE ALREADY PRESERVING YOUR PAVEMENTS, WHICH IS CARBON AVOIDANCE.

THIS WOULD BE DIRECT CARBON CAPTURE.

AND SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT REALLY HAS NEVER BEEN DONE LIKE THIS BEFORE.

AND IT ACTUALLY THAT RESURFACING IMPROVES OUR CORRIDORS LESS LONGER.

RIGHT. IS THERE THERE THERE ARE TIME REGARDING THAT.

THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

SO TYPICALLY WE THINK THE THE EFFECT HAPPENS OVER A FIVE YEAR, AT LEAST A FIVE YEAR LIFE CYCLE, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD CONTINUE BEYOND THAT. SO THE YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE REQUIREMENTS ARE TO CONTINUE TESTING THAT EFFICIENCY.

SO IT MAY BE POSSIBLE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REACHING EFFICIENCY REDUCTIONS IN THE 50%, BUT BY YEAR FIVE THAT'S DIPPED TO 45%.

NOW THE FACT IS THAT THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN PAID FOR.

SO AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH TITANIUM DIOXIDE EMBEDDED IN THE PAVEMENT, IT WILL CONTINUE REDUCING SMOG AND, AND OTHER, YOU KNOW, EMISSIONS FOR THE LIFE CYCLE THAT THAT PAVEMENT IS IN SERVICE.

SO IT COULD EXTEND WELL BEYOND THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

I SAW YOUR MAP OF THE NATION THROUGHOUT, AND I'M CURIOUS TO HOW MANY MUNICIPALITIES ARE ALREADY ON BOARD WITH THIS.

SO HOW MANY HAVE ALREADY APPLIED THIS? IT'S SO THE APPLICATION IS APRIL 1ST, SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WILL APPLY.

THEY EXPECT AROUND 130 TO BE AWARDED.

BUT IT COVERS SO MANY DIFFERENT RANGES OF THINGS.

SO IT COVERS ELECTRIFICATION.

IT COVERS SOLID WASTE STORMWATER.

SO IT'S IT'S VERY BROAD.

SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT CITY OF PALM COVE, PALM BAY AND BREVARD COUNTY ARE THE ONLY APPLICANTS TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT ARE APPROACHING IT IN THIS REGARD.

AND SO THAT'S A REAL ADVANTAGE TO THE COALITION HERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMPETING WITH ANYBODY ELSE IN THIS SPACE.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO COUNCIL.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS.

THIS SOUNDED LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.

IT REALLY IS. I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN.

MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS OR.

OR LEAVE ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

WHEN THEY SPRAY THIS THIS ROAD REJUVENATION ON THE ROAD.

IS THERE ANY HAZARD TO SOMEBODY IN THE AREA BREATHING IS.

THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

YEAH, DEFINITELY. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE THE BASICALLY WHEN IT'S SPRAY APPLIED, THE TITANIUM IS NOT AIRBORNE.

SO IT'S BASICALLY IT'S INCLUDED WITH THE LIQUID.

SO THERE'S NO WAY TO REALLY BREATHE IT IN.

OKAY. THE IMPORTANT PART IS THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE SAFETY DATA SHEET, WHICH COMES FROM OSHA.

AND IT'S MANDATED THAT ALL PRODUCTS APPLIED YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE SAFETY DATA SHEETS.

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AND THE SAFETY DATA SHEET FOR THIS SPECIFIC MATERIAL CARRIES ZEROS ACROSS THE BOARD AS FAR AS RISK THAT BE THAT THERE'S NO FLAMMABLE LIQUID INVOLVED IN IT. THERE'S NO PARTICULATE MATTER THAT COULD CAUSE, YOU KNOW, INHALATION, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS OR ANY OF THAT.

IT HAD TO ALSO PASS WHAT'S CALLED CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65, WHICH IS AMONG THE MOST DIFFICULT OR RIGOROUS ENVIRONMENTAL TESTING IN THE WORLD. SO IT HAD TO PASS THAT CRITERIA AS WELL TO BE USED.

SO. OKAY.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO USE HYPOTHETICAL, RIGHT.

BUT I'M GOING TO USE IT IN THIS CASE, IF SOMEONE'S TO GET, SAY, THEY GOT SICK OR SOME TYPE OF MEDICAL CANCER OR WHATEVER, IS THE CITY LIABLE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LIABLE OR THE OR THE.

SO I AM NOT A LAWYER, SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT WITH ANY CERTAINTY.

HOWEVER FROM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU, FROM WHAT THE SAFETY DATA SHEETS SHOW IS THAT EVEN SO MUCH AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE DRINKING THE LIQUID, WHICH WE TRY TO HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL AND OUR PROJECT MANAGERS MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN CERTAINLY THAT THAT NO ONE, YOU KNOW, GETS A HOLD OF IT, BUT THAT THERE'S NO RISK THERE.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE THAT SOMEONE WOULD YOU KNOW, FEEL SICK, NAUSEOUS.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT TASTES GOOD.

I'VE NEVER TASTED IT, BUT BUT IT'S SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TITANIUM, AT LEAST, IS IN THINGS LIKE YOUR CREST 3D WHITE TOOTHPASTE.

RIGHT. IT'S IN SUNSCREEN FOR HIGH SPF SUNSCREEN.

SO THE TITANIUM DIOXIDE IS SAFE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE CARRIER LIQUID AND THE AND IT'S MIXED WITH WATER AS WELL.

THAT ALSO CREATES, YOU KNOW, OR DOES NOT CARRY A HEALTH HAZARD.

NOW, IF SOMEONE WERE TO OVERINDULGE AND DRINK A LOT OF IT WE WOULD EXPECT POTENTIALLY THAT THEY MIGHT FEEL, YOU KNOW, NAUSEOUS, BUT THERE'S NO LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, IMPACT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED.

AND IT'S A RARE YOU KNOW, RARITY THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR.

I THINK SO. OKAY.

SO THIS CHEMICAL, WILL IT MAKE THEIR, THEIR ENVIRONMENT OR THE WORLD A LOT COOLER? YOUR ENVIRONMENT, THE ROAD THAT'S GO BY YOUR HOUSE, THE TEMPERATURE WILL DROP.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. SO YES.

SO IT'S CONSIDERED A COOL PAVEMENT APPLICATION.

THE REASON BEING THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT BLACK ASPHALT THAT THAT THERE'S MUCH MORE OF AN PALM BAY THESE DAYS, WHICH IS A GOOD THING.

IT'S EXCITING THAT BLACK PAVEMENT ABSORBS THE HEAT FROM THE SUN ALL DAY, AND THEN IT RERELEASES IT IN THE EVENING HOURS WHEN NORMALLY PALM BAY WOULD BE COOLING OFF.

AND THAT READMITTANCE IS CALLED EMISSIVITY.

AND WHAT THIS DOES IS LOWER THE AMOUNT THAT IS RE-EMITTED, MAKING IT A COOLER, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD AT NIGHT.

SO IT'S REALLY FOCUSING THOSE OVERNIGHT HOURS.

SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE A DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY OR, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS OF, OF ANYWHERE IN PALM BAY OR BREVARD COUNTY, THAT COULD MEAN LOWER ENERGY DEMAND IN THE EVENING HOURS.

AS FAR AS RUNNING THE AC, IT COULD MEAN THAT THEY NOTICE LESS HEAT WHEN THEY'RE OUT WALKING THE DOG AT NIGHT OR GOING ON AN EVENING RUN.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF ADVANTAGES.

AND IF WE CAN COOL THE PAVEMENT OFF, THEN WE MAKE A COOLER ATMOSPHERE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS OF PALM BAY.

YEAH. AND THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I GOT FROM YOUR PRESENTATION.

MY LAST QUESTION IS THE STORMWATER RUNOFF INTO THE LAGOON, INTO OUR IN THE LAGOON OR OUR GREAT LAKES.

IS THERE ANY HAZARD TO THAT? NO. IN FACT, IT'S A NET BENEFIT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE FINDING IS THESE MICROPLASTIC PARTICLES EVERYWHERE IN OUR LAGOON, THEY'RE CONSUMED BY THE PROTEINS WE EAT.

AN AVERAGE STEAK MIGHT HAVE 90 MICROPLASTIC PARTICLES IN IT.

THAT MEANS THAT OUR DOLPHINS AND MANATEES ARE CONSUMING THESE MICROPLASTICS.

AND 85% OF THESE MICROPLASTICS COME FROM TIRE AND BRAKE WEAR.

AND EVEN EV VEHICLES ARE NOT IMMUNE TO THAT.

THEY'RE HEAVIER AND THEY CREATE MORE OF THESE MICROPLASTIC PARTICLES.

SO EVEN IF WE COULD GET RID OF ALL TAILPIPES, WE WOULD STILL BE.

WITH DEALING WITH THESE, YOU KNOW, MICROPLASTIC PARTICLES, WHICH, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, THESE TIRES HAVE VERY TOXIC FOREVER CHEMICALS IN THEM.

AND SO THIS IS A NET POSITIVE EVEN FOR STORM WATER.

THE OTHER, YOU KNOW, ASPECT OF THIS IS IF WE HAVE COOLER PAVEMENTS AT NIGHT, WE HAVE LESS SUPERHEATING OF THE STORMWATER.

THAT'S THEN FINDING ITS WAY INTO THE LAGOON.

AND THAT SUPER HEATED STORMWATER CAN OFTENTIMES CAUSE THESE ALGAE BLOOMS THAT ARE OCCURRING.

IT'S BECAUSE OF THE HEAT OF THE THE RUNOFF RUNOFF THAT IS CAUSING A LOT OF THAT.

SO SO WE THINK THAT WHILE IT'S NOT A DIRECT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY ARE TRYING TO TARGET, THIS IS MORE FOR EMISSIONS, BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE A POSITIVE CO-BENEFIT OF

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OF BETTER STORMWATER QUALITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

YES. THANK YOU.

MR.. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YOU'RE GOOD. DEPUTY MAYOR.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTION.

MAYOR, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

I THINK IT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE.

WHY DO WE SIGN UP? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S LATER ON.

THIS IS GREAT.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND I'D LOVE TO SEE LOOK FORWARD TO SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT DEFINITELY IT'S I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.

YEAH, IT'S VERY TIMING.

THE APPLICATIONS GOT TO BE APRIL 1ST, SO I THINK MADAM SHERMAN, DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR US OR CONSENSUS? WOULD WOULD THAT BE YOUR PREFERENCE? YOU HAVE AN ITEM ON CONSENT AGENDA.

IT'S ITEM NUMBER 24 THAT COVERS THIS.

ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION SIR.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

THE SECOND PRESENTATION WILL BE DONE BY CLAUDIA MIRO, WHO IS WITH FREEBEE RIDESHARE.

YES THANK YOU. MAYOR.

SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

SHE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THEIR PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL CLAUDIOMIRO WITH FREEBIE.

WITH OFFICES AT 371 NORTHEAST 61ST STREET DOWN IN MIAMI, FLORIDA.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO PRESENT FREEBIE TO YOU.

FREEBIE IS A RIDESHARE COMPANY.

WE DO. MICROTRANSIT.

LET ME SEE HOW THIS WORKS.

OH, THERE WE GO.

SO FREEBIE IS THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF ON DEMAND MICROTRANSIT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE OFFER FREE, ON DEMAND, DOOR TO DOOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

SO A LOT OF YOU HAVE USED RIDESHARE.

YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH RIDESHARE COMPANIES.

WELL, FREEBIE IS THE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION VERSION OF THIS, WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO DOWNLOAD AN APP, REQUEST A RIDE, AND GO DOOR TO DOOR TO WHEREVER IT IS YOU'RE GOING WITHIN A DETERMINED ZONE.

SO REALLY THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC MOBILITY, WHEREAS GONE ARE THE DAYS WHERE YOU USED TO WAIT AT A BUS STOP OR A TROLLEY STOP.

NOW, FOLKS REALLY LIKE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GO WHEN THEY NEED TO GO.

BE ABLE TO PICK IT UP AT THE FRONT DOOR OF WHERE THEY ARE, TO THE FRONT DOOR OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING, INSTEAD OF BEING OUTSIDE AT A TROLLEY STOP, A BUS STOP IN THE HEAT AND THE RAIN, ETC..

TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, FREEBIE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 12 YEARS.

WE STARTED IN 2012 AND IF YOU SEE THE MAP OVER THERE, WE ARE NOW IN OVER 40 CITIES RIGHT HERE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

WE ARE AS FAR NORTH AS KISSIMMEE AND AS FAR SOUTH AS LA MIRADA IN THE FLORIDA KEYS.

OVER ON THE WEST COAST, WE ARE IN SAINT PETE BEACH, BRADENTON AND DUNEDIN.

FREEBIE WORKS IN ALL KINDS OF COMMUNITIES.

BEYOND SEEING IT AS A A SERVICE THAT JUST GOES FROM POINT A TO POINT B, FREEBIE IS ALSO A VERY POWERFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOL WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO PHYSICALLY DRIVE TRAFFIC TO THE FRONT DOORS OF THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.

AND BEYOND THAT, ALL OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE USE IN OUR FLEET ARE 100% ELECTRIC.

SO WE PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY.

AGAIN, EVERY KIND OF COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S BIG OR SMALL, WE HAVE COMMUNITIES THAT WE OPERATE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, 16MI² TO CITIES THAT ARE ABOUT A MILE, A MILE AND A HALF SQUARE MILES. SO ANY KIND OF COMMUNITY WE CAN WE CAN DEFINITELY RELAUNCH A SERVICE THERE.

SO HOW DOES IT WORK? THIS IS THE BEST PART RIGHT.

SO FREEBIE IS A COMBINATION OF RIDESHARE MEETS YELP AGAIN, WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO REQUEST A RIDE BY PRESSING THAT YELLOW BUTTON THAT YOU SEE IN THE CENTER OF THE SCREEN THERE.

AND BUT YOU'RE ALSO IMMERSED IN EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE CENTER CAROUSEL THERE WHERE IT SAYS, TAKE ME TO THE SHACK RIVERFRONT, YOU CAN GO PRESS THAT BUTTON AND IT'LL START TAKING YOU THERE.

OR YOU CAN PROMOTE OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES FROM HERE, LOCAL RESTAURANTS, THE CITY CAN DO SURVEYING FROM HERE.

SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS YOU CAN DO FROM THERE.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT BOTTOM BANNER, YOU CAN CONNECT TO A REAL TIME BUS TRACKER SO THAT FOLKS CAN PLAN THE RIDE ALL FROM ONE EASY TO USE APP.

AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'RE INSPIRING LOCAL DESTINATIONS, THAT WHOLE CONCEPT OF LIVE, WORK, PLAY SO THAT FOLKS CAN MOVE AROUND PALM BAY WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THE NEED OF OWNING OR HAVING A PERSONAL VEHICLE PROVIDING THAT EASY MANEUVERABILITY.

AND THEN AGAIN, WITH THE MONEY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE ON FUEL, ON PARKING, ON TOLLS, THAT MONEY CAN THEN BE REDEPOSITED BACK INTO THEIR LOCAL COMMUNITY, BECAUSE NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PATRONIZING THE LOCAL COMMUNITY AND MAYBE HAVE THE APPETIZER OR DESSERT, GO AHEAD AND AND SPEND AT A STORE.

AND SO THAT'S THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF IT.

AND I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE LATER ON.

SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE GEOFENCING THAT WE DO.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, THE WAY THAT THE TECHNOLOGY WORKS IS THAT YOU GEOFENCE AN AREA.

NOW SOME CITIES WILL GEOFENCE THE ENTIRE AREA.

SOME WILL JUST DO THEIR DOWNTOWN CORE, SOME WILL DO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSERVED POCKETS WHERE MAYBE THERE IS NO BUSSES, ETC..

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AND JUST SO TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT THIRD SLIDE, IF YOU SEE THAT THE THIRD SECTION THERE IN THE MIDDLE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A POINTER HERE.

NO THERE'S A DARKER SHADE OF GREEN AND A LIGHTER SHADED GREEN.

THAT'S THE CITY OF DELRAY BEACH.

NOW WHAT THEIR GOAL WAS, THEY WANTED TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE CRA.

SO THE DARKER SHADED GREEN IS THE CRA AND THE LIGHTER SHADED GREEN IS THE RESIDENTIAL.

THE RULE THERE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY WAS THAT THE RIDE HAD TO START OR END IN THE CRA, SO YOU COULD GO FROM YOUR RESIDENCE INTO THE CRA, FROM THE CRA BACK TO YOUR RESIDENCE, OR MOVE ABOUT BUSINESS TO BUSINESS ANYWHERE IN THAT DARKER SHADED GREEN.

AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

I'VE COME TO CITIES THAT SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GEOFENCE OUR SMALL CITY, BUT THERE'S A GREAT WALMART RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT FOLKS REALLY WANT TO GET TO, OR A GREAT GROCERY STORE.

CAN YOU GEOFENCE THAT? WE'LL THROW A GEOFENCE AROUND THAT AND MAKE IT PART OF YOUR SERVICE ZONE SO THAT FOLKS CAN GET TO AND FROM THAT.

AGAIN, CITY FREEBEE IS NOT A COOKIE CUTTER SOLUTION.

WE ARE HIGHLY CUSTOMIZABLE, SO WE'RE ABLE TO WORK HAND IN HAND AND REALLY TAILOR MAKE A PROGRAM THAT MAKES SENSE FOR PALM BAY.

SO HOW TO USE THE APP? IT'S SUPER SIMPLE. SIMPLE.

THAT FIRST SLIDE IS YOU'RE HITTING THAT GREEN BUTTON TO REQUEST A RIDE THAT TAKES YOU TO THE SECOND SLIDE WHERE YOU'RE DROPPING YOUR PIN.

AGAIN, IF YOU'VE USED RIDE SHARE, THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS.

DROP YOUR PIN TO SET YOUR YOUR PICK UP LOCATION.

IN THE THIRD SLIDE, YOU'RE SAYING WHERE TO.

NOW? YOU CAN POP IN AN ADDRESS THERE, OR YOU COULD PUT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PUBLIX.

AND IT'LL DO THAT. NOW YOU SEE THERE IT SAYS CATEGORIES.

THAT'LL TAKE YOU DOWN TO A DROP DOWN MENU.

IT'S BROKEN DOWN TO RESTAURANTS AND BARS, SALONS AND SPAS.

POINTS OF INTEREST, ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, GROOMING.

YOU KNOW, JUST A LONG LIST.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LIST OF BUSINESSES THAT WE OFFER FREE ADVERTISING FOR.

SO WHEN I MENTIONED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE DO FREE ADVERTISING FOR THE LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT.

THEN THE LAST SLIDE, YOU'RE GOING TO SELECT HOW MANY PASSENGERS YOU ARE.

IF YOU NEED A WHEELCHAIR ACCOMMODATION, IF YOU NEED A BOOSTER CHAIR, A CAR SEAT, YOU'RE GOING TO SELECT THAT THERE.

AND THEN YOU CONFIRM YOUR RIDE AND YOU'RE CONNECTED IN REAL TIME TO ONE OF OUR DRIVERS.

YOU'RE GOING TO GET A MESSAGE THAT'S GOING TO TELL, WAIT IT'S GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS A MAP WHERE YOU COULD SEE WHERE THE CAR IS COMING, ALL OF THESE WONDERFUL FEATURES. AND THE GREATEST PART IS THAT YOU'RE WAITING INSIDE YOUR HOUSE.

YOU'RE NOT WAITING OUTSIDE.

AND ALSO IF YOU LET'S SAY THAT YOU'RE A SENIOR AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH ANY OF THIS TECHNOLOGY, MAYBE YOU DON'T OWN A SMARTPHONE.

THEN WE HAVE AN 800 NUMBER, AND OUR SWITCHBOARD OPERATOR CAN HELP THOSE WHO ARE 65 AND OLDER OR ANYBODY WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.

AND THE THIRD WAY TO GET A FREEBIE IS TO SIMPLY FLAG IT DOWN.

IF YOU SEE IT, FLAG IT DOWN AND THEY'LL STOP AND PICK YOU UP.

A LOT OF HIGH LEVEL PROGRAM BENEFITS THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IS REALLY TRANSFORMING YOUR COMMUNITY.

LIKE I SAID, TO A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY AND NOT NEED A PERSONAL VEHICLE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, YOU'RE TAKING CARS OFF THE ROAD, YOU'RE REDUCING TRAFFIC.

YOU'RE YOU'RE REDUCING CARBON EMISSIONS.

A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

NOW, WHAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, MA'AM.

TRY TO STAY ON THE MIC.

I'M SORRY. TRY TO STAY ON THE MICROPHONE.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU IS WHO'S WRITING FREEBIE? A LOT OF FOLKS ASK THIS.

WELL, WHO'S WRITING THE FREEBIE? EVERYBODY'S WRITING FREEBIE.

WE ARE PROUD TO SAY WE ARE THE MOST EQUITABLE FORM OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OUT THERE.

WE JUST FIND THAT THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES AS THE DAY GOES ON.

SO IN THE MORNING, YOU MIGHT HAVE FOLKS GOING TO THEIR MINIMUM WAGE JOB, BUT THEN YOU HAVE C-SUITE EXECUTIVES TAKING IT FOR BUSINESS LUNCHES, BUSINESS MEETINGS SENIORS, HUGE RIDERS OF THE FREEBIE.

THEY GO TO THE DOCTOR, THE PHARMACY, THE SUPERMARKET.

STUDENTS IN THE AFTERNOON ARE TAKING IT HOME FROM SCHOOL.

TOURISTS, PETS ARE EVEN ALLOWED ON THE FREEBIE.

SO AGAIN, THE DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES AS THE DAY GOES ON.

AND THEN REALLY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW IS OUR DRIVERS, WE CALL THEM COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS WITH THE IDEA THAT DRIVERS DRIVE AND COMMUNITY AMBASSADORS REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY. THEY BECOME THE FACE OF PALM BAY THINK OF THEM AS A ROLLING INFORMATION DESK ON WHEELS.

LIKE A MOBILE CONCIERGE, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT PALM BAY.

WE DO HIRE FROM HERE, SO IT'S JOB CREATION FOR ALL OF YOU, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.

LIKE YOU SEE WITH RIDESHARE.

THEY ARE 100% W-2 EMPLOYEES OF FREEBEE.

NOW WE ARE CONSIDERED PUBLIC TRANSIT, SO THAT MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO CONFORM TO FDOT CODE 1490.

SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE DOING A LEVEL TWO BACKGROUND CHECK.

THAT'S A DEEP DIVE ON THAT BACKGROUND CHECK.

HEALTH SCREENINGS, DRUG SCREENINGS.

WE'RE ALSO WE EVEN DO A SLEEP APNEA STUDY SO THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO A FREEBEE, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO A SAFE RIDE.

YOU'RE ALSO ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE SAME DRIVERS.

WE DON'T PULL THE DRIVER FROM THIS AREA TO COVER OVER HERE.

IT'S ALWAYS THE SAME DRIVERS, SO YOU'RE ABLE TO FEEL SAFE.

WE HAVE A CAMERA IN THE CAR AT ALL TIMES.

WE HAVE A CAMERA FACING FORWARD, FACING BACK, AND WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY WITH THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO RIDE REPLAYS SO WE CAN SEE THE ROUTE REPLAY AND SEE EXACTLY WHERE THE DRIVER WENT IF THERE'S EVER A CONCERN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS.

THE FACT THAT WE CAN TAKE EVERYBODY TO TO THE FRONT DOORS OF LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE HAVE A TEAM OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICERS THAT WILL GO DOOR TO DOOR TO OFFER THE FREE ADVERTISING ON OUR MOBILE PLATFORM TO EVERY LOCAL BUSINESSES.

WE WORK WITH, THE THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.

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AND SO EVERY TIME THAT WE START A PROGRAM, I HAD SHOWED YOU THAT MAP WITH THE OVER 40 CITIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, EACH ONE OF THEM STARTED OFF AS A 12 MONTH PILOT. EACH ONE OF THEM, I'M PROUD TO SAY, IS STILL WITH US.

WE'VE NEVER HAD A CANCELLATION, AND THAT SPEAKS TO THE FACT THAT IT WORKS.

THE RIDERSHIP NUMBERS ARE THERE.

PEOPLE USE IT, PEOPLE LIKE IT.

PEOPLE FEEL SAFE. IN FACT, 70% OF OUR RIDERS ARE WOMEN.

SO IT'S LOW RISK AND LOW COST TO YOU BECAUSE WE ARE THE ONES PURCHASING THE VEHICLE.

THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO INVEST IN BUYING A FLEET.

WE PURCHASE THE VEHICLE, WE WRAP THEM IN-HOUSE.

WE HAVE IN-HOUSE MECHANICS.

EVERYTHING IS DONE FULLY TURNKEY.

WE HANDLE CUSTOMER SERVICE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY. DEDICATING STAFF TO THIS.

WE WILL DO ALL OF THAT AND ALL THAT REALLY THAT THE CITY COVERS IS THE DAYS AND TIMES OF THE WEEK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO OPERATE.

SO HOW MANY HOURS A WEEK DO YOU WANT TO OFFER THE SERVICE TO YOUR COMMUNITY? AND THEN THE GREAT PART ABOUT THIS IS THE TECHNOLOGY.

WE WILL GIVE YOU A LIVE DASHBOARD THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO COLLECT.

YOU KNOW, YOU GO IN THERE AT REAL TIME, YOU'LL GET INFORMATION LIKE, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE FREEBIE SO FAR, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY WAITING FOR THE FREEBIE AND HOW LONG YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT AVERAGE WAIT TIME LOOK LIKE? AND ANY OTHER KPIS OR KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS THAT YOU WANT TO TRACK? WE'LL THROW THEM ON THERE.

YOU'LL HAVE ACCESS TO HEAT MAPS, WHICH IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SAY, HEY, WHERE'S EVERYBODY COMING FROM? WHERE'S MOST OF MY RIDERS COMING FROM AND WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO.

AND ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS HELPFUL TO YOU BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN MAKE DATA DRIVEN DECISIONS AND YOU CAN IN THAT 12 MONTH PILOT, YOU CAN ADJUST YOUR SERVICE HOWEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT IT. NOW, THE LAST THING IS FUNDING SOLUTIONS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE FUNDED LIKE ANY OTHER FORM OF TRANSPORTATION IS FUNDED.

IT'S A LINE ITEM OUT OF THE CITY, OUT OF THE COUNTY BUDGET, IF YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION TAX DOLLARS.

AND THERE'S ALSO AN FDOT GRANT THAT PAYS FOR 50% OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE FREEBEE FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS.

THAT'S GOING TO BE OPENING UP NOW IN.

APRIL. SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND THE OTHER FORM OF PAYMENTS THAT FOLKS USE THAT CITIES USE TO OFFSET THEIR BUDGETS IS THAT THEY ALLOW ADVERTISING.

SO IF YOU ALLOW US TO DO ADVERTISING, WE'LL WE HAVE A WHOLE ARM OF OUR BUSINESS THAT DOES MARKETING AND ADVERTISING, AND WE SELL TO LOCAL REALTORS, ATTORNEYS, BUT ALSO NATIONAL CLIENTS, THE LIKES OF COCA COLA, PEPSI, GOYA.

AND THAT BRINGS IN REVENUE.

AND WE'LL DO A REVENUE SHARE WITH THE CITY, WHICH IS A 5050 SPLIT.

SO FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT COMES IN IN REVENUE, $0.50 GOES BACK TO THE CITY TO LOWER YOUR SHARE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO OFFSET AND WITH CRA FUNDS CDBG FUNDS, THAT KIND OF THING.

THANK YOU MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THING.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING THE THE ACTUAL ADVERTISEMENT COMPONENT TO THAT.

SO I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH MR. FOSTER, IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

YES, I DO, MAYOR.

DO YOU SHARE IF LAW ENFORCEMENT.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS SOME INFORMATION ON A RIDE.

SHARE? A FREEBIE SAY A PERSON TOOK A FREEBIE AND WENT TO A PICK UP SOME DRUGS OR SOMETHING, OR COMMITTED A CRIME. DO YOU SHARE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT? ABSOLUTELY. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS ABOUT OUR DRIVERS IS THAT THEY DOUBLE OVER AS AS THE SECOND PAIR OF EYES, RIGHT? THEY SEE SOMETHING, THEY SAY SOMETHING.

AND SO WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THESE ARE THE DRIVERS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THESE AREAS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SO WE DO REPORT THEM.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A WAY OF CAPTURING THAT, NOT IF JUST IF THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL LIKE SELLING DRUGS.

BUT IF WE HAVE, LET'S SAY A ROWDY RIDER, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO RATE THEM.

AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S EGREGIOUS, THEY GET AN EMAIL BEING NOTIFIED OF, HEY, THIS IS YOUR WARNING.

YOU WERE, YOU KNOW, YOU BE BEHAVING UNBECOMING OF A RIDER AND THEN THEY GET A CHANCE, RIGHT? MAYBE A FIRST TIME, A SECOND TIME, A THIRD TIME, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE MENTIONING RIGHT NOW.

SO I'M JUST USING DRUG DEALING AS A CRIME.

IT COULD BE A KIDNAPING.

IT COULD BE A DOMESTIC.

ABSOLUTELY. IT COULD BE.

HAVE ANY OF THE CITIES THAT FREEBIE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION EXPERIENCE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR DO YOU HAVE.

I HAVE NOT NO, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH, WITH SELLING DRUGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT AGAIN, IF WE SEE SOMETHING, WE SAY SOMETHING.

IF THERE'S A CAR ACCIDENT OR ANYTHING AND OUR CAMERAS CAPTURE IT, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

YES. WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, ABSOLUTELY.

BECAUSE IT'S I LIKE THE PROGRAM, I REALLY DO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FREEBIES.

SO THE FROM ONE LOCATION TO THE OTHER.

IF I WANT TO GO TO MY GIRLFRIEND HOUSE AND BACK AND FORTH, THAT'S UP TO THE CITY TO MAKE THAT A ZONE.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING.

ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU COULD JUST LIMIT IT TO BUSINESSES OR PARKS OR EVENTS? YES YOU CAN. WE HAVE DEVELOPED SO MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF PROGRAMS. I JUST RECENTLY LAUNCHED A PROGRAM OR WE'RE ABOUT TO LAUNCH A PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF DORAL WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE A SERVICE THAT SERVICES JUST THEIR DOWNTOWN, BUT THEIR SENIORS WERE LIKE, WE DON'T LIVE IN THE, YOU KNOW, FUN, EXPENSIVE DOWNTOWN AREA.

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WE LIVE OUT IN THESE GATED COMMUNITIES.

SO THE SYSTEM WE DESIGNED WAS CITYWIDE EXCLUSIVELY FOR SENIORS THAT ARE 65 AND OVER.

AND THEN THEY PICKED THEY SURVEYED THESE SENIORS AND THEY PICKED THEIR TOP DESTINATIONS.

WE CAME UP WITH A LIST OF 27.

AND IN THOSE 27, WE HAVE EVERY SINGLE PARK THAT PARTICIPATES IN THE SILVERSNEAKERS PROGRAM, EVERY SINGLE GROCERY STORE.

WE HAVE SEVERAL EVERY SINGLE PHARMACY AND EVERY HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM CLINIC THAT THEY GO TO.

AND OF COURSE THEIR WALMART AND SAM'S THAT THEY WANTED AS PART OF THAT.

SO SO IT COULD OPERATE FROM SEVEN IN THE MORNING TO SEVEN AT NIGHT OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO DO IT.

ONCE YOU DECIDE THE HOURS, LET'S SAY YOU DECIDE 70 HOURS, YOU CAN DO TEN HOURS A DAY.

OR IF YOU WANT TO DO ALL YOUR HOURS BETWEEN THURSDAY AND SUNDAY OR MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND YOU CAN CHANGE THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 12 MONTH PILOT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ALREADY.

WHEN YOU DECIDE HOW MANY HOURS YOU WANT TO DO A WEEK, HOW YOU DISTRIBUTE THEM IS COMPLETELY UP TO YOU.

THAT'S A PHONE CALL TO ME, AND IT TAKES US ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO IMPLEMENT BECAUSE WE DO SCHEDULE OUR DRIVERS TWO WEEKS IN ADVANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

I'M GOOD MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CLAUDIA, IT'S GREAT SEEING YOU AGAIN.

I HAVE TO SAY, GENTLEMEN, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN COCO WHERE I MET CLAUDIA ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

IT WAS A GREAT SOME SORT OF CONVENTION ABOUT EV ALTERNATIVE AND AND THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF PROGRESS THAT IN THAT SPACE IN TERMS OF ALTERNATIVE NEW, RENEWABLE FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND SO ON.

IT WAS GREAT. SO WHEN I'VE SEEN THAT CLAUDIA SHARED WITH ME, I SAID, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE HAPPEN IN OUR CITY FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.

RIGHT? SO MOBILITY, TRANSPORTATION IS SUCH A KEY ELEMENT IN SO MANY ASPECTS AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.

AND I THINK IT WAS SO IMPORTANT HAVING THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE A SERVICE AS SUCH TO, TO OUR TO OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S SO CRITICAL. CONSIDERING THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE TELLING US OFTEN IT'S THE LACK OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND US SERVING ON THE TPO.

WHEN WE BRING THAT UP, THE THE THE RESPONSE WE GET LACK OF FUNDING.

THEY CAN'T EXPAND THE SERVICE HOURS FOR FOR PUBLIC BUSSES, NOR THEY CAN GET MORE BUSSES OUT THERE.

SO HERE'S AN ALTERNATIVE TO THAT THAT THAT TAILORED TO REALLY SERVING THE MOST VULNERABLE, THE ALL ELDERLY, THOSE THAT WITH LIMITED FINANCIAL.

SO I THINK I THOUGHT THIS WAS GREAT.

I'D LIKE TO THANK STAFF TO, TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, ARRANGE THAT, BRING CLAUDIA IN FRONT OF COUNCIL TO SHARE.

I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH CLAUDIA.

MULTIPLE. AND I HAVE REFERENCE FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT USE THE SERVICE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, FORT PIERCE OR THE CLOSEST AND NORTH MIAMI.

IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT.

IN FACT, THEY INCREASING UPON THAT.

IT'S WORKING OUT SO GOOD.

SO CERTAINLY WOULD ENCOURAGE THE SO NEEDLESS TO SAY, I'M A FAN.

SO CERTAINLY WOULD ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT STEP TO TRULY CONSIDER THIS PROGRAM.

I THINK THAT SURELY WOULD MAKE A GREAT DIFFERENCE.

GREAT, GREAT DIFFERENCE, GREAT SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU. EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU. SO, CLAUDIA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU'RE QUITE THE SALES PERSON.

I JUST WANTED TO START. START OFF LIKE THAT.

MY, MY MY IDEAS ARE TOWARDS THE GEO FENCING, RIGHT? THE SENIORS ARE ARE A CRITICAL COMPONENT I THINK WE COULD DEFINITELY ALL AGREE ON ON THAT ASPECT IS THE THE START UP COSTS RELATED TO THE GEO FENCING OF WHAT WE ASK KNOW AS AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT'S NOT THE COST ARE GOING TO COME FROM THE AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT YOU WANT TO DO AND HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU'RE GOING TO NEED.

NOW THE CITY DICTATES HOW BIG YOU WANT THAT GEO FENCE.

WE DON'T CHARGE YOU FOR EXPANDING OR CLOSING THE GEO FENCE.

WE ALWAYS JUST CAUTION.

IF YOU START YOUR PROGRAM WITH CERTAIN GEO FENCE AND THEN YOU WANT TO EXPAND OUT, WE CAUTION YOU THAT IF YOU GO TOO FAR, YOUR WAIT TIMES ARE GOING TO GO UP.

SO THE WAY THAT WE WORK IS FIRST, YOU KNOW, YOU ESTABLISH.

IS A GEOFENCE AND SAY, OKAY, I WANT TO INCLUDE THIS AREA.

MAYBE IT'S A DOWNTOWN, MAYBE IT'S THE WHOLE CITY.

AND THEN YOU TELL US WHAT HOURS YOU WANT TO DO.

AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WHAT'S THE WAIT TIME YOU WANT THEM TO WAIT? SOME CITIES ESTABLISH A WAIT TIME OF 15 MINUTES, SOME OF 25 MINUTES, SOME OF 30 MINUTES, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEIR GOALS ARE.

SO ONCE YOU TELL ME THAT WE HAVE PROPRIETARY ALGORITHMS THAT WILL DO SIMULATIONS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO GO GO THROUGH, AND THE SIMULATION WILL TELL ME HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU NEED TO ACCURATELY MEET THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND SO WE'LL MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU KNOW, AND SAY X AMOUNT OF VEHICLES TO MEET THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE I SEE.

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AND SO I CAN I'M HAPPY TO GO INTO COST WITH YOU SO THAT YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF OF WHAT THAT WILL RUN YOU.

YEAH. THE COST SHARING IS DEFINITELY AN IDEA REGARDING ADVERTISEMENT FOR FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

THANK YOU MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

I'D LIKE IF IF WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS PATH, I'D LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER THE SENIORS IN THIS REGARD.

RIGHT. SOME SOME SENIORS CAN'T TRAVEL ON THEIR OWN.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM FOR OUR SENIORS.

AND THEN THERE'S INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TRYING TO WORK.

AND I THINK IF YOU GEOFENCE FROM A HOME TO AN EMPLOYMENT LOCATION, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL AT THAT POINT, WE'RE HELPING OUR COMMUNITY.

RIGHT. THERE'S.

AND THEN WE'RE GETTING VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, GENTLEMEN, IF IF WE'RE GOING TO IF WE'RE GOING TO START SOMEWHERE IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS REGARD, I WOULD I WOULD PRIORITIZE OUR SENIORS AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED ASSISTANCE GETTING TO WORK AND COMING BACK HOME FROM WORK, OR THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

MAYOR, IF I MAY ASK STAFF NOW, AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD YOU NEED FROM US? MR. CHAIRMAN, AT THIS POINT.

WELL, SOME OF WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING WILL BE HELPFUL BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HOW YOU CAN USE THIS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF ANGLE WHERE YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYONE TO GO TO PLACES, RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT, VERSUS SOMETHING THAT'S MORE OF A SERVICE TO THOSE WHO HAVE NEEDS.

IF YOU CAN GIVE US A SENSE OF THAT AND WHAT YOU'D BE MORE INTERESTED IN THAT WOULD GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE.

AND WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING BACK OPTIONS AND PRICING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, YEAH, I'M COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M IN TUNE WITH THE MAYOR, OUR SENIORS, THE PEOPLE MOST VULNERABLE WHO WHO NEEDS TO WORK AND IN CHURCHES AND MEDICAL FACILITIES.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A STRUGGLE FOR ME.

AND I GOT A CARD.

I HAVE SOMEBODY DRIVE ME JUST TO GET TO THE MEDICAL FACILITY.

I CAN IMAGINE IF I DIDN'T HAVE SO HOSPITALS EVEN TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE CITY CITY HALL TO HANDLE BUSINESS.

THESE VETERANS, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE.

BECAUSE TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, SPACE COAST DOESN'T RUN ON SUNDAYS, OUR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION DOESN'T RUN ON SUNDAYS.

AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO WORK.

YOU KNOW. SO THESE ARE THE AREAS I LIKE IN THE ADVERTISEMENT THAT WILL COME FROM THAT.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. THANK YOU MAYOR.

A QUICK QUESTION FOR MISS MISS SHERMAN REGARDING THIS, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT FUNDING OPTIONS WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT? WHAT WOULD RIGHT NOW, THIS WOULD BE A GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE.

SO WOULD COME OUT OF UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.

THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO, LIKE THE THE STATE GRANT OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO THAT TO SEE HOW MUCH WE'D NEED TO PUT TOGETHER TO TRY TO MEET AN APRIL DEADLINE OF SOME SORT IF IT'S OPENING.

BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

BUT IT MAY NOT BE UNTIL NEXT YEAR, DEPENDING ON TIMING.

YES, MA'AM. AND SO I ASKED THAT AND THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MA'AM.

I ASKED THAT BECAUSE I WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WEIGHING ALL OPTIONS.

THE GOAL IS TO ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC AND ALLEVIATE AND IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, WIDENING MALABAR ROAD AND OTHER AREAS WHICH ARE GOING TO TAKE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS IN SOME AREAS.

SO I WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE, WE WEIGH THE OPINION FROM HERE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY NEEDS TO GO THERE TO SEE WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST BANG FOR BUCK.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT THAT.

JUST SO WE HAVE A PRICE TAG ON BOTH OR ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMING FORTH THAT ARE LOOKING TO ALLEVIATE, YOU KNOW, CONGESTION IN THE CITY.

SO I APPRECIATE THE THE ELABORATE PRESENTATION, MA'AM, BUT I JUST ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY ASPECT.

SO THAT'S ALL. YEAH.

YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT ON BOARD.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I'M I'M I'M HEARING YOU.

THAT'S WHY I SUGGESTED THAT SMALL GEO FENCING.

BECAUSE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT THIS IS GOING TO COST.

SO I THINK. DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH, MA'AM? BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED.

THANK YOU. HOW WE COULD GEO FENCE THIS AND HAVE IT COME BACK.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A GRANT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE TIMING FOR THIS YEAR, WE'RE WE'RE PROBABLY OVER THAT, BUT CERTAINLY WORK WITH US FOR NEXT YEAR ONCE WE SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

BUT I THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM.

DEPUTY MAYOR, THANKS FOR INVITING CLAUDIA UP TO GIVE US THIS PRESENTATION, BECAUSE THIS THIS MAY BE A WORTHWHILE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TO NOT ONLY ALLEVIATE OUR ROADS, DEPUTY MAYOR, BUT ALSO TO PROVIDE A NICHE TO THOSE THAT ARE NEEDED TO TRAVEL TO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS.

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COUNCILMAN. FOSTER NAILED IT.

I'M THINKING OUR VETERAN COMMUNITY GOING TO DIFFERENT APPOINTMENTS AS WE GET OLDER AS WELL.

SO HE HE WAS SPOT ON WITH THAT.

SOME SOME CAN'T DRIVE.

SO CERTAINLY I WANT TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE OF ALL OF THIS BECAUSE OUR GENERAL FUND IS GOING TO BE THE THE ISSUE IS, AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID, WE'VE GOT SOME INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE YOU.

YOU CAME FROM MIAMI.

YES I DID, THANK YOU.

WELL, SAFE TRIP BACK HOME.

I WILL BE STAYING THE NIGHT.

OH, OUTSTANDING.

GOOD AT ONE OF OUR LOCAL HOTELS.

THAT'S RIGHT. OUTSTANDING.

THANK YOU MA'AM THANK YOU MA'AM.

TAKE CARE. THANK YOU.

SO WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, YES, I WAS, THANK YOU.

I WANTED TO ASK BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME HOT TOPICS THAT I KNOW MISS SHERMAN AND ALL OF US ARE AWARE OF.

I WAS I WAS WONDERING IF SHE CAN KIND OF SPEAK ON A FEW OF THEM.

SPECIFICALLY BEFORE BEFORE WE GET INTO.

YEAH. JUST SO THE SO THE PUBLIC OVERVIEW.

YES. SO SPECIFICALLY MINTON, PINEAPPLE COVE, BAYSIDE LAKES GOLF COURSE MEETING.

THAT'S OKAY.

CLUBHOUSE. SO OKAY.

BAYSIDE LAKES THE GOLF COURSE AND PCC PINEAPPLE COVE CLASSICAL ACADEMY ARE ARE BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY OF LOCHMOR AS WELL. AND WHAT ELSE? AND AND MINTON ROAD AND.

OH, MINTON.

MINTON ROAD WHERE WE ARE? SOUTH TO TO JUPITER.

YEP. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

WHAT THE STATUS ARE.

SO, MA'AM WOULD YOU PLEASE START WITH MINTON AND JUPITER FIRST? YES, SIR. I'D BE HAPPY TO.

MINTON WROTE. WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH A PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO DO THE PAVING FOR THE SECTION OF MINTON BETWEEN JUPITER AND MALABAR.

THAT PROCESS HAS CONCLUDED.

WE ARE PREPARING TO BRING THAT ITEM TO YOU AT THE APRIL 4TH COUNCIL MEETING, WHICH IS WHERE WE WILL REQUEST THAT YOU AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THE LOW BID CONTRACTOR. AND THAT PROJECT ALSO INCLUDES NOT JUST MINTON, BUT ALSO WACO, WHICH IS DUE FOR FOR REPAVING AS WELL.

THE EXPECTATION IS THAT ONCE AWARDED THAT WE THEN GO DO THE NORMAL THINGS WE DO, WHICH IS FINALIZE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTRACTOR HAVE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETINGS AND PREPARE FOR THE ACTUAL WORK.

THE HOPE THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM ACTUALLY OUT THERE WORKING ON.

AND TO DO THAT SOMETIME LATER IN THE MONTH OF MAY IS THE CURRENT GOAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE WORKING TOWARD ON THAT ONE.

THANK YOU MA'AM. REGARDING THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE SITUATION THE THE OWNER HAS FILED FOR HAS FILED SOME DEVELOPMENT PLANS WITH US.

THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING THEIR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN MEETING THAT HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK, THURSDAY, MARCH THE 28TH AT 5 P.M..

THEY'RE HOLDING THE MEETING AT THE CLUBHOUSE OF THE MAJORS GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS 3375 BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

AND I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN REACHING OUT TO US SO THAT COMMUNICATION HAS GONE OUT TO THEM.

AND WE DID EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS TO THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THE LOCATION THAT THEY CHOSE.

WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGED THEM AND STRONGLY ENCOURAGED THEM TO COORDINATE TO HAVE IT AT BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL'S AUDITORIUM, AS AS HAD OCCURRED BEFORE.

BUT HOWEVER, THEY MADE THE CHOICE TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS LOCATION.

SO I WILL BE THERE AT THE MEETING TO I'M THERE MAY BE OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF THERE, AND I'VE ASKED THE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE A PRESENCE AS WELL.

THANK YOU. AND PINEAPPLE COVE.

YES. SO PINEAPPLE COVE STILL DEFINITELY A WORK IN PROGRESS.

HAD SOME MORE EMAILS FROM THE RESIDENTS TODAY ABOUT IT.

THE SCHOOL HAS BEEN WORKING THROUGH AN ARRANGEMENT WITH THE CHURCH NEXT DOOR THAT HAS BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND THE LATEST ARRANGEMENT THAT THEY, THEY WORK THROUGH WITH THE CHURCH WAS TO USE THE CHURCH PARKING LOT AS A SORT OF A STAGING AREA FOR THE TRAFFIC TO TRY TO PREVENT ALL THE THE STACKING ON NESBITT.

MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME IS THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT FROM THAT STRATEGY, BUT IT IS NOT A COMPLETE AND FINAL SOLUTION TO THE RESIDENTS CONCERNS. THAT'S CLEAR.

ALSO, WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE DATE FOR OUR OUR MEETING WITH BOTH THE RESIDENTS AND THE SCHOOL, AND I BELIEVE WE ARE STILL I'M NOT SURE IF WE OFFICIALLY FINALIZED IT TODAY, BUT IT'S AN EARLY APRIL DATE THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARD, SO IT SHOULD BE SOMETIME IN THE NEXT 2 TO 3 WEEKS.

WE'RE WE'RE LOCKING IN THE LOCATION FOR THAT, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE OR TO RESPOND TO RESIDENT CONCERNS TODAY.

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YES, MA'AM. I'D LIKE TO I'D LIKE TO DRILL A LITTLE BIT DOWN ON THE BAYSIDE LAKES GOLF COURSE AS WELL.

THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS ON COUNCIL WE WE GAVE DIRECTION.

AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU BRING IN SOME INFORMATION BACK TO, TO COUNCIL REGARDING BAYSIDE LAKES.

OR AM I ANTICIPATING INFORMATION THAT'S NOT FORTHCOMING? I'M SORRY, SIR. SO WE ASKED.

WE ASKED THAT THERE'D BE DISCUSSIONS AND DIFFERENT OPTIONS PROVIDED TO THE OWNER.

AND IS THERE A PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE WE'RE DUE BASED ON THOSE DISCUSSIONS OR WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? TO TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CITIES? YES. CAN I JUMP IN? SO WE WERE GIVING STAFFS DIRECTION TO LOOK AT POSSIBLY PURCHASING OR THE OPTIONS IN REGARDS TO FUNDING OR PURCHASING THE GOLF COURSE IF IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN A FISCAL MANNER.

IF YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY OWNER UNDERSTOOD TO WORK WITH US.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. SO YES. SO THE THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.

STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON ONE OF THOSE ITEMS IS TO HIRE AN APPRAISER TO LOOK AT THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.

THE SECOND ITEM IS WE HAVE ALREADY CONTRACTED WITH A FIRM THAT WOULD GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT THE ROUGH COST ESTIMATES WOULD BE TO RESTORE THE PROPERTY TO AN ACTUAL GOLF COURSE.

AND THEN THE THIRD THING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON INTERNALLY IS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE WHAT THE COST WOULD BE TO TURN IT INTO MORE OF A TRADITIONAL REGIONAL TYPE PARK SETTING AS AN OPTION.

ALL THOSE OBVIOUSLY ARE JUST SPECULATIVE AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE THOSE ARE JUST COSTS WE NEED TO PROVIDE TO YOU.

IN CASE YOU WANTED TO APPROACH THE OWNER ON THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO THOSE ARE THREE THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS, DEPUTY MAYOR.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES (Part 1 of 2)]

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

WE'LL START WITH MR. MISTER BLAND. TIMBERLAND.

GOOD EVENING, TIM BLAND.

1992, TWINBROOK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

I LIKE TO START OUT THANKING YOU ALL FOR THE BRAMBLEWOOD VOTE, KEEPING IT AS IT WAS AND NOT ALLOWING OVERDEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

SO I DID GET THIS LETTER ABOUT EDEN AT BAYSIDE LAKES AS AS YOU GUYS JUST TALKED ABOUT HAVING A CP MEETING WHERE THE CARTS USED TO PARK OVER AT THE GOLF COURSE OUTSIDE.

AND JOY LLC SENT TONY CATALANO A NOTE SAYING IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF PEOPLE ATTENDING THIS MEETING BRING THEIR OWN CHAIRS.

SO IS THERE GOING TO BE SECURITY? DO THEY HAVE INSURANCE IN PLACE? THIS IS A PRIVATE PROPERTY, LARGE EVENT.

I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE A LARGE EVENT.

AND I THINK THERE'S AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THE CITY TO MAKE SURE CERTAIN THINGS ARE MET ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

NON-GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.

I DON'T RECALL WHAT ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE, BUT I THINK SECURITY ARE GOING TO BE IN RESTROOMS. I MEAN, THIS IS CRAZY.

THE LAST TIME THEY HAD THIS MEETING WAS OVER AT THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THE AUDITORIUM INSIDE WELL VENTILATED, ADA COMPLIANT.

SO THAT'S THAT.

SO AS I GO AROUND THE CITY, I SEE THESE ORANGE MACHINES IN THE LIFT STATIONS.

BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS, MONTHS.

WE HAVE ONE RIGHT HERE ON WINBROOK DRIVE AND THERE'S ONE RIGHT BY MCDONALD'S ON BAYSIDE LAKES DRIVE.

SO I ASKED OUR UTILITIES, AND THEY SAID, WELL, THAT'S KIND OF TO HELP PUSH THE SEWAGE AT HEAD TIMES TO THE PLANT.

SO CUSTOMERS DON'T HAVE BACKUPS IN THEIR HOUSE.

REALLY? AND YOU GUYS WANT TO BUILD MORE STUFF IN THIS CITY? COME ON.

ON. THE GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB.

PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB HAD SOIL CONTAMINATION.

THEY COULDN'T BUILD ON IT FOR 12, 14 YEARS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN INDEPENDENT SOIL INSPECTION DONE ON THIS GOLF COURSE, BECAUSE THEY USE THE SAME CHEMICALS AT PORT MALABAR DID CHEMICALS CAME FROM GEORGIA, GOT TO DO CHEMICAL SOIL TESTING ON TEES, FAIRWAYS AND GREENS BEFORE ANY SOIL IS MOVED. SO IF THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD, WHO PAYS FOR NEIGHBOR'S POOL CONTAMINATION?

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NEIGHBORS SCREEN AND ROOF THE SOIL THAT GOES INTO THE AIR.

WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR ALL THAT? THE 2045 COMP PLAN.

ADHERE TO IT, PLEASE.

THANK YOU, MISS LAURA REVELS.

GOOD AFTERNOON OR EVENING? I LIVE AT 410.

NEPTUNE. I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE.

MA'AM, CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC? THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE, TRYING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE ONGOING ISSUES OF PINEAPPLE COVE.

SINCE IT OPENED TWO YEARS AGO.

YES, IT HAS IMPROVED A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT HASN'T IMPROVED ENOUGH THAT I FEEL AS A RESIDENT.

YOU KNOW, IN MY.

BUT ANYWAYS IN PCC A'S LAST BULLETIN TO PARENTS AND I BROUGHT A COPY FOR ALL OF YOU TO SEE.

THERE WAS A COMMENT IN THERE THAT THEY SAID PLANS ARE IN PROGRESS TO EXPAND THE LOK MA CAMPUS TO A HIGH SCHOOL AND EXPAND INTO A TRADE SCHOOL ON THIS NEW CAMPUS.

WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN GROW.

WHEN I ASKED ABOUT THIS, I WAS TOLD THAT YOU GUYS KNEW NOTHING ABOUT IT.

SO WHO ARE THEY TALKING TO? WHO ARE THEY REFERRING TO? AND A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WITH MR. WATANABE A YEAR AGO WHEN WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH PCA IN JULY THAT THEY CANCELED, HE HAD TOLD ME THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PAY TO MAKE EMERSON A FOUR LANE ROAD, WHICH WOULD COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO EXPAND WITH THE ONGOING TRAFFIC CONCERNS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY WOULD THE CITY EVEN ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF THIS EXPANSION? AND WHY ARE THESE CONVERSATIONS BEING KEPT FROM THE RESIDENTS OF LAMAR WHEN WE HAVE ASKED TIME AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT IT? THEY ALSO STATED IN THEIR FLIER THAT LAMAR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE SCHEDULING A MEETING TO INCLUDE THE SCHOOL, THE MAYOR, AND THE OFFICIALS FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THE RESIDENTS OF LAMAR, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE BEEN REQUESTING A MEETING SINCE THE MEETING LAST JULY WAS CANCELED.

WHO IN FACT IS IN CHARGE OF SCHEDULING THIS MEETING? ALSO, WHY IS THE SCHOOL ENCOURAGING? AND YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE FLIER, THE PARENTS OF THE SCHOOL TO ATTEND THIS MEETING TO VOICE THEIR OPINION? WHY DOES THEIR OPINION MATTER OR HOLD ANY WEIGHT? IT IS NOT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BEING AFFECTED BY THIS SCHOOL.

IT'S ACTUALLY THE PARENTS WHO ARE NOT ADHERING TO THE TRAFFIC RULES.

CUTTING DOWN NEPTUNE, MY STREET.

I COUNTED 17 CARS THE OTHER DAY WITHIN A TEN MINUTE PERIOD, AND I ALSO SEEN A POLICE OFFICER IN HIS SUV VEHICLE SITTING THERE AND DIDN'T ISSUE ONE CITATION.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

THEIR INTEREST BEHIND THIS IS JUST TO CAUSE A MOB SCENE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS AND THEMSELVES.

BY ENCOURAGING THE PARENTS OF THIS SCHOOL TO ATTEND THIS MEETING, I HAVE SENT MANY EMAILS WITH NOT ONE REPLY OTHER THAN IT BEING FORWARDED TO THE APPROPRIATE PARTY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

MADAM CHAIRMAN REGARDING THE DISCUSSIONS OF WHAT THEY THEY WROTE REGARDING THIS NEW CAMPUS, CAN YOU CLARIFY ANY OF THIS OR IS THERE AN APPLICATION? AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE'S BEEN NO APPLICATION.

I KNOW STAFF HAS BEEN APPROACHED BY THE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SCHOOL TO TALK ABOUT THE IDEA.

THERE I'M SURE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS OR DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO APPLICATION YET.

IN A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SCHOOL.

I KNOW I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO THEM THAT THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GOING TO WEIGH VERY HEAVILY ON ANY APPLICATION THEY BRING FORWARD.

BUT THEY HAVE NOT APPLIED FOR ANYTHING AS OF YET, SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER, MISTER EARL SIMMONS.

GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE MAYOR AND RESPECTED OFFICERS.

MY NAME IS EARL SIMMONS.

I LIVE AT 1527 RANGER ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

AND I HAVE TWO CONCERNS.

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ONE IS THE DITCH IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

IT HADN'T BEEN CLEANED SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW, HOW COULD THAT DITCH AND MY NEIGHBORS DITCH BE CLEANED TO HINDER THE MOSQUITOES THAT CONGREGATE IN THE WATER WHEN IT JUST SETTLED THERE? THE SECOND ISSUE IS AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED YOU HAVE A CONCERN FOR THE SENIORS.

AND RIGHT NOW I AM IN THE SENIOR CATEGORY, AND THIS ISSUE IS ABOUT THE SOLAR PANEL SCAM.

AND THAT'S GOING ON IN THIS AREA.

AND I WAS WONDERING, IS ANY WAY THAT THE CITY COULD MAYBE COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF SAFETY MECHANISM THAT COULD CHECK APPLICANTS ONCE THEY FILL OUT THEIR DOCUMENTS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE REALLY AWARE OF ALL THE PROCEDURES, AND THEY'RE DOTTING THE I'S AND CROSSING THE T'S, BECAUSE I THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY SMART MYSELF.

AND I BOUGHT A I BOUGHT A SOLAR PANEL SYSTEM, AND RIGHT NOW I DON'T I'M NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE $10,000 DEDUCTIBLE.

SO THEY ADD THAT $10,000 ON TO MY BILL.

AND WHEN THE SALESPERSON CAME TO ME, THAT WAS NOT EXPRESS IN THAT MANNER, IT WAS EXPRESSED TO ME THAT ONCE I SIGNED THE DOCUMENTS, WHEN I DO MY TAXES, I COULD WRITE OFF THE $10,000.

WHEN I LOOKED INTO IT LATER, THAT WASN'T TRUE.

I CONTACTED PEOPLE AT THE THE, THE THE COMPANY AND THEY SAID, WELL, IT WAS IN THE FINE PRINT THAT EVERYBODY IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE $10,000.

HOWEVER, I SAID I SIGNED UP WITH WHAT WHAT YOUR SALES PERSON TOLD ME THAT WHAT STRUCK MY INTEREST AND ALSO I WAS CONSIDERING MYSELF GIVING THIS PERSON A SALE.

AND NOW I FOUND OUT I'M STUCK WITH $10,000.

HOWEVER, THE COMPANY HAD THEIR THE CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT AGAINST THE COMPANY, AND I FOUND WITH CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS.

AND SO I THINK I HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE, THE, THE WORK FOR THE FINAL ANALYSIS.

BUT I WAS WONDERING IS ANY WAY SINCE YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH THE CITIZEN, THE SENIORS, SOME WAY TO SAFEGUARD THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE NOT BEING TRUE TO THEIR COMPANY.

WELL, VERY FIRST THING IS REGARDING RANGE ROAD AND YOUR DITCH.

YOU SEE THAT GENTLEMAN BACK THERE WITH THAT LIGHT BLUE SHIRT? YES, SIR. THAT GOOD LOOKING GUY OVER THERE.

YES. GO AHEAD AND SPEAK TO HIM ABOUT THAT DITCH.

OKAY. AND SECONDLY, I'M GOING TO REFER YOU TO CONSUMER SERVICES FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND THEN SINCE YOU'RE ELDERLY, YOU MIGHT CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT OF ELDERLY AFFAIRS WITHIN THE STATE AS WELL.

THERE MAY BE OPTIONS FOR YOU IN THAT REGARD.

AS FAR AS THE CITY INTERVENING ON ON BUSINESS ISSUES THAT THAT OCCURRED BETWEEN CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES THAT THAT'S OVERREACH.

BUT GO AHEAD AND SEE THAT GENTLEMAN OVER THERE WITH THE LIGHT BLUE SHIRT REGARDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE FOUR ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.

THE FIRST ONE IS I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

JENNIFER. I DON'T KNOW HER LAST NAME.

I CONTACTED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND SHE HELPED ME GREATLY.

SHE SOLVED SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME TRYING TO FIND THE INFORMATION ONLINE.

SHE HELPED ME THROUGH IT, AND SHE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS FOR ME THAT WERE MULTIPLE QUESTIONS IN A MATTER OF MINUTES.

THAT WOULD HAVE TAKEN BILL BATTEN SEVERAL HOURS ON THE COMPUTER TO TRY AND FIND.

SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, JENNIFER.

I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THIS IS A NIGHT OF THANKING PEOPLE.

GAYNOR ON GAYNOR ROAD.

THEY'VE GOT THE STRIPING DONE.

IF YOU'VE DRIVEN IT LATELY, IF YOU'VE DROVE IN THE LAST TWO DAYS, IT'S AMAZING THOSE SAFETY STRIPES GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

IT'S ACCOMPLISHED SEVERAL THINGS.

THE FIRST ONE IS IMMEDIATELY I NOTICED THE TRAFFIC HAS SLOWED DOWN BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY SEE THE STRIPES AND TWO AT NIGHT WITH THE REFLECTORS.

I HAD NO IDEA THAT WAS GOING ON THERE.

THE REFLECTORS THAT LET YOU SEE WHERE THE ROAD IS JOGGING.

SOME IN SOME INSTANCES 4 TO 5FT IN EITHER DIRECTION AS IT JOGS RAPIDLY.

YOU CAN SEE IT, RIGHT? BUT THE BAD THING ABOUT THAT IS THAT NIGHT WHEN I LOOK DOWN THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE I'VE BEEN DRINKING AND I DON'T DRINK BECAUSE THE ROAD LOOKS LIKE THIS AS I LOOK DOWN THE ROAD.

RIGHT. AND OKAY, ITEM NUMBER THREE, I'VE GOT A LIST OF ALL THE CANDIDATES THAT ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING FOR FILLING THE COUNCIL SEATS, AND I'M LETTING IT BE KNOWN NOW THAT I'M GOING TO CALL EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I'M GOING TO ASK THE EXACT SAME QUESTIONS.

AND I'VE DONE THIS BEFORE.

SOME OF YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT ABOUT ME.

I ASK EVERYBODY THE SAME QUESTIONS.

THAT HELPS ME DECIDE WHERE I'M GOING, BUT I'M GOING TO LET CANDIDATES KNOW IF I DON'T GET A CALL BACK, THEY AUTOMATICALLY COME OFF THE LIST.

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AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR, REGARDING THE GOLF COURSE, THE ONE SOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE SOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE, AND THAT'S TO NOT ALLOW REZONING ON THE GOLF COURSE.

THAT'S SO SIMPLE.

IT'S ALREADY WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS.

THE INDIVIDUAL STILL OWNS THE LAND, THE INDIVIDUAL BOUGHT THAT LAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE ZONING WAS WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE LAND.

SO LET THAT KEEP YOU KEEP THAT IN MINDSET AS YOU GO.

THEY CAN STILL UTILIZE THEIR LAND.

THEY COULD STILL BUILD ON THEIR LAND.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE THE ZONING THAT'S WITHIN YOUR PRIVY.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BIDEN, LET ME THANK STAFF ON YOUR BEHALF FOR DILIGENTLY ACT ON GANAUR STRIPING GAINER.

THANK YOU, MR. CARNAU.

I RECEIVED THE LETTER ON THE CP, AND I ASKED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY NOTIFY THE ORGANIZERS THAT IT IS NOT.

IT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE MEETING PLACE FOR A CP AND DOES NOT QUALIFY A MEETING.

THE REQUIREMENTS OF A CP.

HAVING LOOKED AT THE CP LETTER, I ALSO REALIZED THAT THE THE ALLEGED OWNER OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, BUT OWNER OF 50%.

THE OTHER 50% IS IN LITIGATION AND HAS BEEN SINCE MARCH 22ND OF 22.

THE. THERE WAS A CALL FOR A SUMMARY JUDGMENT.

ON TUESDAY A CONTINUANCE WAS GRANTED.

THE ORIGINAL DATE WAS JUNE 17TH.

THE TRIAL. IT'S NOW.

NO, NO SOONER THAN 60 DAYS AFTER THAT.

MY POINT IS THAT I DON'T SEE HOW THE CITY CAN CONSIDER A A A DEVELOPMENT, A DEVELOPMENT WHEN IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE RIGHT OWNERS.

ONE OF THE OWNERS HAS BEEN TOTALLY LEFT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE PICTURE.

I'M SURE HIS ATTORNEY'S PROBABLY HERE, BUT IF HE IS, AND HE SHOULD BE.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAN BE ALLOWED TO BE DONE.

THE CITY WOULD ALSO OPENING ITSELF UP TO A CHARGE OF TORTUOUS INTERFERENCE BY TAKING THIS.

BY TAKING THIS AND EVEN ANALYZING IT, OR EVEN CONSIDERING IT, BECAUSE THERE IS NO NEED OR REASON THAT YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION.

THANK THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MR.. MADAM.

ATTORNEY. YES.

MR.. OR ASKED A QUESTION OR HE HE SPECIFIED A COMMENT THAT I GUESS THERE'S AN APPLICATION INVOLVED NOW AND THE LEGALITIES OF EVEN THIS, THE CITY ACCEPTING THAT BASED ON THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTY.

YES, SIR. I KNOW THIS ISSUE THAT CAME UP SOMETIME BEFORE.

CERTAINLY, THERE HAS BEEN NO ACTION BY THE PERSON CONTESTING SOME OF THE OWNERSHIP TO GET AN INJUNCTION TO BAR THE OWNER FROM MAKING ANY CHANGES.

THERE HAS BEEN NO RESOLUTION BY THE COURT.

THERE'S BEEN NO JUDGMENT. SO FOR AT THIS TIME, THERE IS NOTHING THAT IMPEDES HER FROM ACTING AS THE OWNER, SO LONG AS SHE CAN PROVIDE THE OWNERSHIP, PROOF OF OWNERSHIP THAT WE REQUIRE FOR THE APPLICATION, THERE IS NOTHING THAT STOPS HER FROM DOING SO.

CERTAINLY, IF THERE WAS A JUDGMENT ISSUED BY THE COURT, WE WOULD RESPECT THAT.

BUT AS HE INDICATED, THE COURT HAS NOT CONSIDERED IT YET, AND SO THERE IS NO JUDGMENT.

SO WE CAN'T CONSIDER THAT BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN RULED UPON.

OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER.

MR. KEN MURRELL. GOOD EVENING.

KEN MORROW, 128 HURST ROAD.

OKAY. ONCE AGAIN, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PINEAPPLE COVE TRAFFIC.

IT'S BEEN ANOTHER FIVE WEEKS HAVE GONE BY SINCE THE LAST MEETING I ATTENDED AND HAVE NOT HEARD A WORD ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

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OKAY, THERE IS A BIG BREAKDOWN OF COMMUNICATION.

YOU HAVE OUR EMAIL ADDRESSES AND WE EXPECT TO BE KEPT ABREAST UNTIL TONIGHT.

REALLY HAD NO CLUE WHAT WAS GOING ON.

SO I ASK YOU AGAIN, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO STOP THE PARADE OF CARS COMING DOWN OUR ROADS AS PART OF THE SCHOOL LOOP? THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS AND HONESTLY, I FOR 1 A.M.

TIRED OF HEARING YOU SAY YOU'RE HAVING TALKS WITH THE SCHOOLS OFFICIALS BECAUSE THE END RESULT IS THE SAME.

NOTHING CHANGES, NOTHING GETS RESOLVED.

WE STILL HAVE CARS COMING DOWN OUR ROAD AND IT'S UNSAFE.

BEFORE I RETIRED, I HAD A POSITION IN MANAGEMENT.

WE ENCOUNTERED PROBLEMS EVERY DAY.

PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITIES WERE TO RESOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. IF I HAD TAKEN TWO YEARS TO RESOLVE A PROBLEM, I'D HAVE BEEN FIRED.

SO I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT'S TAKING YOU GUYS SO LONG TO SOLVE THIS SIMPLE PROBLEM AND STOP THE CARS COMING DOWN OUR ROADS.

WE'VE GIVEN YOU ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS, YET NONE HAVE COME TO FRUITION.

EITHER YOU DON'T GET IT OR YOU DON'T CARE.

AND I'M STARTING TO FEEL IT'S THE LATTER.

I HOPE I'M WRONG.

NO WAY. THIS SHOULD HAVE TAKEN TWO YEARS TO RESOLVE.

WE'VE TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO LIVE IN A PEACEFUL AND QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT'S WHY WE BOUGHT THE HOUSES THERE.

I ASSUME YOU ALL PURCHASED HOMES IN NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF A PARADE OF CARS CAME DOWN YOUR ROAD EVERY DAY? MORNINGS AND AFTERNOONS? I'M SURE YOU WOULDN'T BE HAPPY ABOUT IT, BUT YOU GUYS MAKE THE RULES, SO IT PROBABLY WON'T HAPPEN TO YOU.

PLEASE TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THIS PROBLEM AS IF IT WAS YOUR HOME.

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN TO US EITHER.

MAKE SOME DECISIONS AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AT LEAST AS AN INTERIM UNTIL YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT.

MAKE A SHORTER ROUTE.

THEY DON'T NEED TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN HURST ROAD AROUND PINATA AND BACK UP NESBIT.

OKAY. YOU CAN CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 1520 MILES AN HOUR DURING SCHOOL TIMES FOR THE ENTIRE SCHOOL LOOP.

YOU CAN MAKE A SHORTER ROUTE.

DO SOMETHING.

YOU CREATED A VERY UNSAFE NEIGHBORHOOD ON OUR STREETS.

WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS AND WALK ALONG THE EDGES OF THE ROADS.

AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, SOMEBODY GETS INJURED BECAUSE OF YOUR DELAY TO FIX IT.

THE CITY WILL BE FACING A HEFTY LAWSUIT, SO PLEASE PICK THE BALL UP.

IT'S IN YOUR COURT STILL.

RUN WITH IT AND PUT THIS PROBLEM TO BED.

I'M GOING TO ASK IF NOT YOU, PERHAPS FRANK WANNABE TO JUST GIVE US A RUNDOWN ON WHAT ACTIONS WE HAVE TAKEN. AND OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE.

I KNOW YOU SAID THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL OR THEREABOUTS.

BUT I'D LIKE AN ITEMIZED OF WHAT WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO AND SO ON.

CERTAINLY WE'VE PROVIDED THAT BEFORE, BUT FRANK CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU. YES.

GOOD EVENING. FRANK. THE CITY ENGINEER.

JUST A LITTLE HISTORY BEHIND THE PINE GROVE ACADEMY.

TRAFFIC CONCERNS. WE'VE HAD THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

FOR THE LAST ALMOST TWO YEARS.

AND WE'VE HAD BOTH MYSELF AS WELL AS PD, AS WELL AS OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS STAFF AND OTHER PUBLIC WORKS STAFF OUT THERE MONITORING.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AT LEAST AT LEAST TWO DOZEN TIMES.

AT LEAST I CAN'T RECALL.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE NUMEROUS TIMES, AND THE RESIDENTS KNOW THAT, TOO.

AND FROM THE BEGINNING TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THERE HAS BEEN IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE'S STILL TRAFFIC ON THOSE STREETS, AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.

AND THE SCHOOL IS WORKING TOWARDS TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT.

THE NEAREST THE THE NEWEST ONE IS WORKING WITH THE COVENANT SCHOOL IS IT'S ALMOST READY TO GET THEIR SEAL, BUT THEY GAVE IT AN EARLY OPPORTUNITY TO USE THEIR PARKING.

AND THEY'RE TRYING TO USE THEIR PARKING.

THEY'RE TRYING TO MANAGE THEIR.

YOU COULD SAY THE PROBLEM IS MAINLY IN THE AFTERNOON, THE MORNING OPERATIONS.

IT WORKS FAIRLY WELL.

SO THERE'S NO QUEUING OF CARS IN THE MORNING.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE NUMEROUS TIMES IN THE MORNING.

THERE IS NO QUEUING ON NESBITT.

IT'S IN THE AFTERNOON.

AND THE REASON WHY? BECAUSE IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER FOR THE PARENTS TO PICK UP THE CHILD AND THEN LEAVE THE SCHOOL SO THAT THEY START TO QUEUE UP.

SO THERE IS THAT QUEUING PROBLEM IN THE AFTERNOON, BUT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST WITHIN THEIR, THEIR COMPOUND.

THEIR COMPOUND. WE'VE BEEN UNDER OUR FIELD REVIEWS COULD HOLD ABOUT 7080 CARS INTERNALLY MAXED OUT.

THEY HAVE ABOUT 325 CARS.

SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH.

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THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE CARS INTERNALLY.

WE LOOKED AT OPTIONS TO OF CREATING A SEPARATE PARKING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.

AND WE HAD THEIR ENGINEERS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AND THERE'S SOME COST CHALLENGES WITH THAT.

WE LOOKED AT OTHER TYPES OF REROUTING THE TRAFFIC AS WELL.

WE LOOKED AT THAT.

WE DID ADD SOME ENFORCEMENT SIGNS IN TERMS OF RESTRICTIONS.

WE DID PUT UP THE NO RIGHT TURN ON HERTZ AT AT NEPTUNE.

IN ADDITION, WE PUT A NO, A LEFT TURN AT THE SCHOOL ENTRANCE TO ENSURE THAT THE PEOPLE WERE NOT SHORTCUTTING WHEN THEY HAD TO BE THERE IN THE MORNING AS THEY CAN, BUT IN THE AFTERNOONS THEY WANTED TO GO AROUND THE BIG LOOP.

AND THAT WAS AGREED UPON BY THE SCHOOL.

AS, AS A MEASURE TO, TO TRY TO KEEP THE CARS OFF OF EMERSON.

AND OUR CONCERN WAS WE TRIED ONE TIME IN THE AFTERNOON TO HAVE THE PARENTS ALL COME OFF OF EMERSON, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY INSTALLING A RIGHT TURN LANE, AND THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. AND IN A SHORT 30 MINUTE TIME, WE HAD EXCUSE ME.

YES, THAT'S A BREACH.

THANK YOU. AND WE HAD TO GET OUR OUR OFFICERS AND TRAFFIC OPERATIONS TO QUICKLY SHUT DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE IT WASN'T WORKING.

IT WAS TOO MANY CARS COMING OFF AT ONE TIME.

AND SO THAT WAS A JUDGMENT THAT SAYS WE CAN'T BE USING ALL THE PARENTS COMING OFF OF EMERSON FOR THE AFTERNOON BECAUSE OF THE LARGE CARS VOLUME OF CARS.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT OPTION TOO, AS WELL.

SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING IN TERMS OF HOPING, WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL ON THE CHURCH OPERATIONS MAYBE LOOKING AT MAYBE PROVIDING A BETTER CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND HAVING SOME SORT OF A SIDEWALK OR PATH BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE CHURCH.

AND JUST TO GO ON RECORD JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I HAVE RECEIVED A TRAFFIC METHODOLOGY, WHICH IS THE FIRST STEP WHEN THEY DO A POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

THAT MEANS THAT AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED YET, BUT THE ENGINEER HAS SUBMITTED TO ME WHAT THEY CALL A TRAFFIC METHODOLOGY FOR THE SITE ACROSS THE STREET.

AND THAT'S USUALLY DONE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GET THE EARLY INFORMATION IN TERMS OF ANY FATAL FLAWS FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT.

AND SO TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THEIR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT OR THEIR ENGINEER WILL SEND ME THEIR METHODOLOGY.

IT'S NOT THE REPORT.

IS THIS THE METHODOLOGY.

SO I'M ON THE RECORD.

I HAVE RECEIVED THAT FROM THE ENGINEER RECORD.

AND AGAIN, I WAS OUT THERE PROBABLY MONDAY AND IN THE MORNING.

AND I DID COUNT IN THE MORNING FOR CARS MAKING THE, THE THE TURNS OFF OF NEPTUNE.

BUT IT HAS IMPROVED SINCE THE LAST TIME WHEN I WAS OUT THERE A FEW WEEKS AGO, AS, AS THE RESIDENTS MENTIONED, THERE WERE A LOT MORE CARS MAKING THE THE RIGHT TURNS.

AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND I AND I'VE BEEN OUT THERE AND I'VE SEEN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TICKET AND SITE PEOPLE.

SO ON THE RECORD, I HAVE SEEN TICKET INSIDE PEOPLE.

THANK THANK YOU, FRANK.

AND SO LET ME LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE, THE, THE CEO OF THE CHURCH AND USING THAT PARKING FACILITY.

WHEN, WHEN IS THAT GOING TO TAKE PLACE.

DO YOU KNOW. I THINK THEY'RE WORKING RAPIDLY TO TRY TO GET THE FINAL BUILDING, BECAUSE THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE WITH THE BUILDING AND THE CEO.

WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEY'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SCHOOL PARKING FACILITIES IS TO CONTINUE TO KEEP USING THAT PARKING FACILITIES.

I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME ISSUES REGARDING MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, LIKE A HOLD HARMLESS.

SO THE SCHOOL AND THE CHURCH IS WORKING ON THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE TO IN CASE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAPPEN, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU DECIDED AGREE.

AND THERE'S A HOLD HARMLESS BECAUSE THE CHURCH IS ALLOWING THE SCHOOL TO USE THEIR SCHOOL SITE AS A, AS A PICKUP LOCATION.

SO THAT'S BEING WORKED OUT.

BUT I KNOW THE SCHOOL IS TRYING THE BEST TO TRY TO WORK AND TO TRY TO RESOLVE ALL THESE ISSUES.

IT MAY NOT HAPPEN TODAY, BUT THEY'RE TRYING THE BEST.

THAT'S WHY SHE HAS A NEWSLETTER.

IF YOU SHARE THAT NEWSLETTER TO AS MANY PARENTS AND TO THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.

PUBLIC WORKS. WE SENT OUT A HANGER TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST ABOUT CHANGING SIGNS AND AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO SCHEDULE THAT NEXT FOURTH MEETING, HOPEFULLY THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL.

BUT WE'RE LOGISTICALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE LOCATIONS AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SET FOR EVERYONE TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND, AND THEN WE'LL SHOOT OUT A NOTICE TO EVERYBODY.

AND IN YOUR OPINION, DO YOU THINK THAT'LL ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC ISSUES BY HAVING THEM USE THAT PARKING LOT? I THINK THE CHANCE IF IT WORKS WITH THE PARENTS, IT HAS TO WORK WITH THE PARENTS.

AND IF THE PARENTS ARE GIVEN A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE HAVE A BETTER ACCESS TO GET TO THE SCHOOL AND BACK, I THINK IT WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO USE IT MORE.

I THINK THE PARENTS, LIKE ANY PARENTS, THEY WANT TO PICK UP THE CHILD AND LEAVE.

THAT'S ALL THEY WANT TO DO.

THEY WANT TO PICK UP THEIR CHILD AND LEAVE.

THAT'S WHY THE MORNING OPERATION IS VERY QUICK.

I MEAN, YOU GET THERE, YOU KICK JOHNNY OUT OF THE CAR AND THEY'RE OFF ON THE ROAD AGAIN.

AND SO YOU SEE VERY LITTLE QUEUING AND VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING OPERATION.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC, LET'S SAY ON ON EMERSON WITH LOCKE ELEMENTARY.

YEAH, YEAH. SO I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY FRANK, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE SEVERAL TIMES.

DOZENS OF TIMES, YES, I HAVE, AND AND YOU'VE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR TIME DURING THE DAY, EARLY IN THE MORNING.

YOU'VE ACTUALLY GONE OUT THERE AND YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN US THESE DETAILS.

SO I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION?

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COUNCIL MORE SO A COMMENT, MAYOR.

I KNOW ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SPOKE ABOUT AGAINST THE PARENTS BEING AT THE MEETING, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THEY SHOULD BE AT THE MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF EDUCATION, MA'AM.

SO WE'RE NOT HAVING ROAD RAGE ISSUES, BUT WE'RE HAVING WE'RE IN A FORMAL SETTING WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED, AND EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S EXPECTED OF EACH OTHER.

SO IF WE TAKE WITH THAT APPROACH IN REGARDS TO EDUCATION FOR THOSE PARENTS, I THINK THAT WILL BE A MUCH BETTER APPROACH.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN ALL GET ON THE SAME PAGE MOVING FORWARD.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY COMMENT.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

AND AND AGAIN, MR. WATANABE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, SIR, MR. THOMAS REESE.

I MEAN, MY NAME IS THOMAS REESE, 114 HURST ROAD.

I'M ALSO GOING TO DISCUSS THE THE PCA.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR THE LAST FOUR MEETINGS AND COUNCIL MEETINGS AND AND I KNOW WE HAVE A IN THEIR LITTLE COMMUNITY THERE LIKE MARK STATES, YOU KNOW, OUR VALUES OF OUR HOUSES ARE PRETTY EXPENSIVE THERE.

WE LIKE IT. THERE USED TO BE QUIET.

NOT ANYMORE.

YOU KNOW, WE RANGE FROM $350,000, OVER $600,000 HOUSES IN THAT AREA.

YOU KNOW, IT'S SOUGHT OUT AFTER AREA THAT PEOPLE LOVED.

AND NOW WE HAVE THE PCA IN THERE AND THEN DISRUPTING.

NOW WE HAD YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING THIS FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WITH THIS TRAFFIC.

AND I DON'T I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT IT.

AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE IN, IN OUR AREA AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC.

YOU KNOW, WE WE WE TALKED LAST YEAR ABOUT EXTENDING THE THE RIGHT LANE GOING INTO NESBITT AND THAT HASN'T GONE, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS NOTHING NOTHING HAS DONE.

AND WE'VE ALL ALL ACTUALLY GAVE VERY A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS OF WHAT TO DO.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN OUR STREETS ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S DISRUPTING FAMILIES AND PEOPLE ON BIKES AND STUFF. AND WE'VE ALREADY ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS.

AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BASICALLY OVER 400 CARS PER DAY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, 2000 CARS A WEEK GOING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THE ROADS ARE GETTING TERRIBLE NOW THEY'RE GETTING RUTTED UP AND, AND WE HAVE TO GET OUR STREET REPAVED JUST LIKE THE OTHER STREETS.

YOU GUYS COMMENTED TONIGHT.

SO WHAT IS THE HAS THE CHURCH NOW? THEY'RE THEY'RE ABOUT ABOUT READY TO OPEN UP NOW, ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE A SCHOOLING IN THERE? ARE THEY HAVE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL THERE? THEY HAD A KIDS IN THEIR PREVIOUS CHURCH WHERE THE PCA IS, IS, IS NOW.

AND SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A PAPER NOW THAT OR IS THERE ANY FORM, WHATEVER IS THE CHURCH GOING TO HAVE SCHOOLING THERE TOO? SO THAT'S GOING TO DISRUPT EVERYTHING ELSE TOO.

AND PLUS THEY'VE BEEN DRIVING DOWN OUR STREETS AND THEY CAN'T FIND WE HAD A, A PUBLIC PARENTS HAD A PAPER COMING OUT, AND IF THEY CAN'T GET INTO THE PCA DRIVEWAY, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE CHURCH AND THEY HAVE TO HOLD THEMSELVES THERE.

THEN THEY DO ANOTHER LOOP AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN.

SO WE HAVE SEVERAL DRIVERS GOING AROUND AGAIN THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

REGARDING THE CHURCH IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I'M GOING TO FIND OUT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PASTOR KEN DELGADO.

KEN DELGADO, ONE FIVE FOR ANGELO ROAD SOUTHEAST.

GOOD EVENING TO ALL OF YOU.

I'M SORRY IT'S A LITTLE LATE.

I WAS GETTING OUT OF THE CHURCH, HEADING ON PALM BAY ROAD, AND THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE UNIVERSE, AND I FOUND MYSELF IN MIAMI, FLORIDA.

HALF AN HOUR LATER, I WOKE UP AGAIN AND I WAS BACK INTO PALM BAY.

AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE FOR THAT CONTINUUM PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE THERE.

I'M HERE JUST TO SHARE THAT ALL OVER THE WORLD.

IN ABOUT TEN DAYS, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE CELEBRATING A GREAT DAY.

IT'S CALLED THE DAY OF RESURRECTION, WHERE JESUS CHRIST WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LOVE VERSES THAT I THINK ARE SO IMPORTANT AS WE CELEBRATE THIS MOMENT AS CHRISTIANS.

NUMBER ONE, THAT FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.

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AND THAT CERTAINLY IS AN ACT OF LOVE, AS SO MANY PARENTS ALSO LET THEIR CHILDREN GO INTO THE ARMED FORCES OUT OF ACT OF LOVE.

THERE'S ANOTHER LOVE VERSE THAT SAYS, NO GREATER LOVE HAS ANY MAN THAN THIS, THAN HE GIVE HIS LIFE FOR ANOTHER.

AND THAT IS ANOTHER SCRIPTURE THAT TALKS ABOUT THE ACT OF LOVE AS ANOTHER ACT OF LOVE IS SOMETHING THAT THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD UNDERSTAND WHEN THEY ACTUALLY TAKE THE BULLET FOR SOMEONE ELSE.

AND THAT'S WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID.

HE TOOK THE BULLET FOR FOR ALL THAT WE HAVE DONE DURING THE RESURRECTION.

BUT THERE'S A PART OF LOVE THAT I THINK I'D LIKE TO BRING FORTH ALSO WE'RE ACCUSTOMED AND MAYBE RIGHTFULLY SO IN SOME, IN SOME SENSE THAT PEOPLE WHO REACH A PINNACLE OF, OF A POSITION HAVE OTHER PEOPLE SERVING THEM.

BUT JESUS SAID, IN MY KINGDOM, IT'S DIFFERENT IF YOU WANT TO BE GREATEST OF THEM ALL, BE THE SERVANT OF ALL.

AND THE LOVE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ALSO IS THE FACT THAT GOD HIMSELF DIDN'T DEMAND THAT WE BE LIKE HIM, BUT RATHER HE DECIDED TO BECOME LIKE US.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER ACT OF LOVE.

THAT THOUGH HE WAS GOD AND COULD SIT ON THE THRONE AND DEMAND EVERYTHING, HE SAID, NO, I THINK I'LL JUST BECOME LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT I WANT TO DIE FOR AND TO STEP DOWN FROM HIS POSITION OF AUTHORITY, HAVING EVERY RIGHT TAKEN FROM HIM, TO BE HERE AS A MAN SO THAT HE COULD EXPERIENCE WHAT WE EXPERIENCED AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO BE MAN.

HE BECAME LIKE US AND LIKE US.

HE TOOK OUR SINS AND DIED.

BUT I'M HERE TO SAY THAT IN THIS CELEBRATION, WHAT WE CELEBRATE AS A FAITH COMMUNITY IS THAT FACT THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.

AND IF HE DID, THAT MEANS OUR SINS.

HAVE FORGIVENESS, BEEN ABLE TO BE RISEN FROM THE DEAD? HE IS. HE IS ALIVE.

HE IS RESURRECTED.

HE OFFERS FORGIVENESS TO ALL.

THANK YOU AND HAPPY EASTER.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA (Part 1 of 2)]

DEPUTY MAYOR.

YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE FOLLOWING.

YOU GUYS READY? YES, SIR.

I'M. I'M READY FOR FOUR, FIVE.

FIVE SIX.

SIX, SEVEN, SEVEN, EIGHT, EIGHT, TEN, TEN, 20, 22, 24 AND 25, 22, 24, 24 AND 25 AND 25.

AND 25.

OKAY. AND 25, WAS THAT IT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION.

UNLESS COUNSEL WANTS TO WITHDRAW.

YOU WANT TO. SECOND.

SECOND. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WITHDRAW? NO. OKAY.

OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE.

WE WILL WORK ON CONSENT LATER.

RIGHT NOW. IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME.

I MADE A MISTAKE.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES (Part 2 of 2)]

I SKIPPED NOT INTENTIONAL.

MR. STICE DID SEND A PUBLIC COMMENT.

WOULD YOU MAKE AN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW.

YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY ALLOW IT BASED ON YOUR YOUR ERRORS.

YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU. THAT'S FINE, MR. STICE. I'M GLAD WE HAVE A GRACIOUS MAYOR.

IT'S EASTER AND.

NO, ON THE MR. SIX. OH, BOY.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. I'LL TRY TO BE VERY BRIEF.

YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO BE CHATTING ABOUT.

I'VE BEEN CHATTING ABOUT IT FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

AND AGAIN, THIS THIS IS MY OPINION.

YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT BAYSIDE LAKES AND WHAT KIND OF A COMMUNITY IT'S BEEN.

MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED THAT MANY TIMES.

IT'S AN UPPER MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.

OKAY. AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING IN THERE, ANOTHER PROPOSAL IS IN MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 307 HOMES.

AND IF YOU ADD THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO THAT 2.82.68 FOLKS PER FAMILY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER 972 RESIDENTS ON TOP OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT IN THE TOWNHOMES THERE?

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AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU GUYS, AND I'M AND I'M PROUD OF YOU, ALL THAT YOU'RE STARTING TO TAKE INFRASTRUCTURE OR LACK THEREOF INTO YOUR CONSIDERATION ON HERE. YOU KNOW, WE BUILD A HOUSES BACK THERE.

THE PRICE OF HOUSES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN.

TAXES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN.

YOU GOT ONE OF THE WORST NEIGHBORHOODS FROM A DRIVING PERSPECTIVE, WITH THAT L-SHAPED CURVE, YOU PUT ANOTHER 972 RESIDENTS ON THERE.

SO LOOK AT LOOK AT ALSO ON HEAD COUNT, NOT JUST TRAFFIC STUDIES, BECAUSE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO BE COMING IN HERE AND SAYING IT'S A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.

RETIRED PEOPLE, THEY DON'T GET IN THEIR VEHICLES VERY MUCH.

I'M IN MINE ALL THE TIME.

SO PLEASE LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I'LL REFER BACK TO BILL BATTEN.

WE'D LIKE TO SPA.

THIS IS ZONED FOR FIVE ACRE LOTS.

IF YOU STICK TO YOUR GUNS AT FIVE ACRE LOTS, WHETHER IT'S A GOLF COURSE OR NOT.

ALL RIGHT. BUT YOU CAN MAKE IT WORK FOR THE CITY.

OF COURSE. WE WANT A GOLF COURSE IN THERE.

TO YOUR POINT, SIR.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANOTHER ARNOLD PALMER DESIGNED GOLF COURSE, YOU KNOW, SO WE'D LIKE TO WORK ON THAT.

AND I PRAY TO GOD THAT THE CITY CAN RECEIVE A A CONTRACT THAT IS AT A REASONABLE RATE THAT WE COULD AFFORD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. OKAY.

I ALSO YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A MEMORANDUM.

MEMORANDUM? EXCUSE ME FOR ON STORAGE FACILITIES.

WHY CAN'T WE NOT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A MEMORANDUM ON ON BUILDING, BUT WHY CAN'T WE ENCOURAGE DEVELOPERS TO START UTILIZING LAND, THE VAST AMOUNTS OF PROPERTY THAT ARE STILL IN, IN IN PALM BAY FOR THE SOUTH AND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE GOT TO BE VERY CONSCIOUS OF NOT PUTTING THE DEVELOPMENT SO CLOSE TO ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS JUST NOT THERE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE ALL THESE DRAGONS TO SLAY WITH GETTING PEOPLE OFF OF SEPTIC AND ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY, THIS IS A WAITING GAME THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO TAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS THEY CAN IN MY OPINION.

OKAY. AND UTILIZE THAT.

AND TO IN MY MIND, TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE CURRENT RESIDENTS.

SO PLEASE GIVE THAT CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. SO WE ARE NOW, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTS, DEPUTY MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, SO YES, MA'AM.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA (Part 2 of 2)]

WE KIND OF SWITCHED GEARS FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THERE ARE SEVERAL CAPTIONS OF RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES THAT YOU ALL APPROVED THAT I NEED TO READ.

YES, MA'AM. RESOLUTION 2020 4-09, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTION 2020 1-09, WHICH AUTHORIZED THE CLOSURE OF OZMOSIS DRIVE SOUTHEAST, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RESOLUTION 2024 DASH TEN, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2015.

DASH 55, ADOPTING THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S PUBLIC WORKS.

IS THAT ONE? THAT WAS PULLED.

I REALIZED THAT ONCE I STARTED READING, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT WAS PULLED.

ORDINANCE 2024.

THAT'S 12. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 11, BUSINESS REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 110 BUSINESS TAXES, SUBCHAPTER BUSINESS TAXES, TAX RECEIPTS, RECEIPTS BY INCLUDING THE ZONING COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE ORDINANCE 20 2413.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 39 COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY REVISING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE ORDINANCE 20 2414.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS, SUBCHAPTER, BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, BY REPEALING A SUBCHAPTER IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND NOW WE WE MOVED THE AGENDA AROUND AND NOW WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

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MADAM SMITH, WOULD YOU READ THAT CAPTION? YES, SIR. ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 17, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, REPEALING ORDINANCE 20 1940, WHICH GRANTED AN

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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION TO MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS, INCORPORATED 1493 LYNN BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. MADAM SHERMAN, WOULD YOU PRESENT THIS ITEM? YES. THANK YOU SIR.

SO THIS IS A AN ABATEMENT WITH MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2018, 2019 TIME FRAME.

IT WAS AN 80% ABATEMENT FOR A PERIOD OF EIGHT YEARS.

THE COMPANY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE ARRANGEMENTS WITHIN THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE TIME FRAME.

AND THEREFORE THIS ITEM BASICALLY REQUESTS TO RESCIND THE ABT EXEMPTION.

PART OF WHAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION AS WELL IS IN ADDITION TO THE RESCINDING THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION IS THE FACT THAT THERE WERE THREE YEARS OF TAXES THAT THE COMPANY DID NOT HAVE TO PAY BECAUSE OF THIS ARRANGEMENT, THE TOTAL OF THOSE TAXES WAS $57,924.35. AND SO ONE OF THE POLICY DECISIONS FOR COUNCIL IS WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO REGARDING THOSE TAXES THAT WERE WAIVED DURING THE EXEMPTION PERIOD.

NOW THAT THE AV IS RECOMMENDED FOR BEING TO BE RESCINDED, AND I BELIEVE ALSO A REPRESENTATIVE OF MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS, MISS WENDY IS IN THE AUDIENCE, TOO.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE SPEAK TO THIS AS WELL.

ARE YOU BRINGING HER UP? OR IS SHE LIKE, YEAH, GO AHEAD.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HER, IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS IT FIRST, IT'S UP TO YOU, SIR.

SO WE'VE GOT SPEAKER CARDS.

YES WE DO.

WELL, NO, NO WE DON'T.

I'M SORRY. OKAY. SO.

YEAH. LET HER LET HER COME AND SPEAK.

OKAY. WHERE WHERE IS SHE? OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

CAN YOU GET THE MIC CLOSER? IT'S FLEXIBLE. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THERE WE GO. AND YOU COULD BRING THE ACTUAL LECTERN DOWN IF YOU.

IF YOU WANTED. IT'S GOT A HEIGHT.

I'M OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MY NAME IS WENDY, AND I DO WORK FOR.

I'M THE HUMAN RESOURCES FOR MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING VERY HARD TO HIRE THE CORRECT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER SINCE THE COVID, AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AND KEEP THE STAFF AT FULL CAPACITY.

WE'RE HOPING THAT NOW EVERYTHING IS CALM DOWN WITH COVID THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO.

GET UP TO THE 50 EMPLOYEES.

WE HAVE THREE GENTLEMEN THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING THEIR IMMIGRATION PAPERS.

O-1A VISA APPROVED.

THAT IS A TIME CONSUMING PROCESS.

WE HAD ONE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST STARTED WITH US IN HIS PROCESS.

TOOK TWO YEARS TO COMPLETE.

WE HAVE THREE MORE THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING OVER FROM BRAZIL.

WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY CAN BE HERE.

THEY COULD BE APPROVED ANY DAY.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE IMMIGRATION OFFICER AND HOW LONG THEY HOW MUCH PAPERWORK THEY DECIDE THAT THEY REQUIRE.

AND TRULY HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO MAKE THEM JUMP THROUGH HOOPS.

I HAVE A NEW EMPLOYEE STARTING ON MONDAY, AND I HAVE ANOTHER ONE STARTING IN MAY.

SO AND I'M WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CAREERSOURCE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO COME ABOARD.

AND THE SAD PART IS I GET THEM IN THE DOOR AND THEN THEY GHOST ME.

IT'S BEEN VERY TOUGH TO GET THEM TO STAY.

SO. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M WORKING VERY HARD ON GETTING THE NUMBERS UP.

WE HAVE THE POSITIONS, WE HAVE THE WORK.

WE JUST CAN'T GET THEM TO STAY.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU.

DOES THAT END YOUR PRESENTATION? YEAH, I DO HAVE A COPY OF OF OUR CURRENT OF OUR CURRENT EMPLOYEES.

AND I ALSO HAVE A COPY OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE HIRED AND THAT HAVE LEFT US IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE.

OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL TAKE THAT.

BUT MY MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE HOW MANY POSITIONS DID YOU DID YOU HIRE.

WHAT WAS THE NET POSITIONS FROM FROM YOUR PRESENTATION.

INITIALLY YOUR GOAL WAS TO HIRE HOW MANY? I BELIEVE IT WAS.

WE HAD TO HIRE LIKE 37.

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OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO MY OUT OF THOSE 30 POSITIONS HOW MANY DID YOU HIRE.

WE PROBABLY HAVE HIRED 15.

WELL, THE RECORDS THAT I WAS SHOWN WAS IT WAS 30 AND YOU ONLY HIRED NINE.

IS THAT IS THERE A DISCREPANCY WITH THOSE NUMBERS THAT COULD BE CORRECT? OKAY. BUT SOME OF THIS IS BEFORE MY TIME.

SO I'M OH, I SEE, I SEE.

SO OUT OF THAT JUST NINE EMPLOYEES.

AND SO YOU WEREN'T HERE WHEN YOU PRESENTED TO HAVE 30, 30 JOBS.

NO, I WAS NOT.

AND WOULD YOU KNOW IF WHEN YOUR COMPANY MADE THE PRESENTATION, DID YOU SAY 30 JOBS HERE LOCALLY AS OPPOSED TO BRINGING THEM FROM BRAZIL OR ANY OTHER LOCATION THROUGHOUT THE GLOBE? I DO NOT KNOW, SIR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. NOW, WOULD YOU DESCRIBE WHY IS IT SO HARD TO FIND? IS IT IS IT DOES IT.

WELL, NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW TWOFOLD.

WHY WHY HAVING TO BRING PEOPLE OVER FROM BRAZIL.

IS THERE THOSE POSITION REQUIRED SPECIFIC SKILL SET THAT WE CAN'T FIND HERE IN THE STATES? YES, SIR. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. YES. SO WE HAVE TO GO IN BRAZIL AND OR ELSEWHERE OUT OF AMERICA? UNFORTUNATELY, YES.

WE COULDN'T FIND ANY, YOU KNOW, SEARCH WOULD BE ALL THE COMPANY HEADHUNTER OR OUT THERE.

WE COULDN'T FIND ANY OF THESE SKILLS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE US DOESN'T HAVE A DENTAL LAB SCHOOL.

THAT THAT DOES WHAT? THE DENTAL SCHOOLS DOWN IN BRAZIL DO WE HAVE MASTER CERAMIST? WHICH IS WHAT OUR THE GENTLEMEN THAT ARE COMING FROM BRAZIL ARE IS THEIR MASTER CERAMIST.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE US DOESN'T HAVE ANY SCHOOLING ANYMORE TO SPECIFIC SKILL SET.

OKAY. OKAY.

WE MAY HAVE A NEW MARKET FOR, FOR FOR THOSE YOU KNOW, EDUCATION HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTION, MAYBE THERE'S A MARKET FOR, FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

SO, SO MY NEXT THING SO YOU OUT OF 30, IT SOUNDS LIKE.

NOW DOES THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT YOU SAID HIGH TURNOVER.

DOES THAT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DONE.

I KNOW OUT OF 30 JUST ABOUT A THIRD YOU'RE SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO HIRE.

AND YOU MENTIONED AS WELL HIGH TURNOVER.

WAS THAT IS THAT A FLUCTUATION.

MAYBE YOU'RE AT 50 AT SOME I MEAN 15 MAYBE HALF OR YOU LOSE SOME.

AND SO NINE REMAINED CURRENTLY.

YES. AND WOULD YOU SAY COVID THE TWO YEARS OF, OF COVID HAVE A BIG PART OF WHY THE COMPANY WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN TERMS OF FINDING PEOPLE? YES. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME IN AND FELT UNCOMFORTABLE BEING IN THE WORK ENVIRONMENT AND HAVE QUIT AFTER BEING THERE ABOUT TWO WEEKS.

AND I, THEY STRESS THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OF THEIR FEAR OF, OF COVID YET.

SO IT'S STILL AN ONGOING THING.

WE DO HAVE.

I'M WORKING WITH CAREERSOURCE AND WE DO TRAIN WE WILL TRAIN PEOPLE TO BE DENTAL TECHNICIANS.

IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATELY SOMETIMES THEY GET IN THE DOOR AND THEY'RE LIKE, THIS ISN'T FOR ME.

AND THEY JUST DON'T COME BACK.

AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HAVE YOU REACH OUT TO THOSE ENTITIES THAT I KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S A SHORTAGE WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE ENTRY LEVEL JOBS, LIKE YOU KNOW, HARRIS CORPORATION, NORTHROP GRUMMAN.

THERE'S ENTRY LEVEL.

WHAT THEY DONE, THEY PARTNERED WITH, YOU KNOW, ALL, YOU KNOW, EASTERN FLORIDA AND OTHER ENTITIES TO WHERE THEY CREATE A PROGRAM OR SOME SORT THAT KEEP IT LOCAL.

THEY FUNDED THE PROGRAM AND THAT TO HELP WITH THOSE SKILL SET SO THEY CAN FILL THOSE POSITIONS.

IS THERE EVER A CONSIDERATION WITH YOUR COMPANY THAT MAYBE PARTNER UP WITH TO CREATE, TO HELP GROW THIS POSITION OR SKILL SET? WE JUST HAVE STARTED TO COLLABORATE WITH EASTERN FLORIDA COLLEGE.

WE'VE HAD THEIR DENTAL ASSISTANT STUDENTS COME IN AND SPENT THE MORNING WITH US, AND THEY'RE COMING BACK APRIL 19TH TO SPEND ANOTHER MORNING WITH US AND DO SOME HANDS ON WORK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN A DENTAL LAB, WHICH IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY SEE IN A DENTAL OFFICE.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH THAT COLLABORATION, MAYBE WE CAN PULL FROM THEM AND GET SOME SORT OF DEVELOPMENT WORKING THERE. OKAY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I GOT ONE LAST QUESTION FROM MISS SHERMAN.

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JUST JUST A SECOND.

I HAVE QUESTIONS, TOO.

I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THE TECHNOLOGY AND AND THE SKILL SET.

I'M AWARE THAT AS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS, THEY THEY HAVE THIS HIGH TECHNOLOGY REGARDING DENTAL IMPLANTS AND AND DENTAL DENTURES AND AND THAT TECHNOLOGY WHERE IT'S THAT SKILL SET IS EVEN BROADER THAN WHAT I'M HEARING.

SO I WANTED TO ASK THE QUESTION OF HOW IS IT DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE EMPLOYEES TO HANDLE THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY WHEN IT COMES TO EVEN SOME SAME DAY ROOT CANALS AND BEING ABLE TO GET THOSE CAPS IN THERE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE SAME DAY. SO I'M, I'M WONDERING WHERE THE, THE DIFFERENCES IN TECHNOLOGY IS IT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN OBSOLETE TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, OR IS THE COMPANY NOT EVOLVING IN THAT TECHNOLOGY? WE ARE DEFINITELY IN THE TECHNOLOGY WE'RE WORKING.

WE DO A LOT OF CAD CAM.

WE DO A LOT OF SCANNING OF THE DENTURES OF WHAT THE DUCHESS SENDS US.

WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW MILLS.

WE ARE AND WHEN I GO TO THE CAREERSOURCE JOB FAIRS, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS EVEN YOUNGER KIDS THAT HAVE THE WILL AND DESIRE TO BE COMPUTER LITERATE AND WORK WITH THE COMPUTERS BECAUSE WE ARE EVOLVING AND A LOT OF WHAT WE DO.

SO YOU'RE BEGINNING THAT TRANSITION NOW IS WHAT I'M HEARING.

WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A WHILE NOW.

WE JUST ARE. IT'S GETTING MORE AND MORE THAT THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED.

OKAY. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED COVID.

THERE WERE MANY INCENTIVES FOR BUSINESSES MAINTAINING THEIR EMPLOYEES.

DID YOU NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE, THOSE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION GRANTS THAT WERE AFFORDED TO MANY LOCAL BUSINESSES? AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW.

I WASN'T THERE AT THAT TIME FRAME.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR HONESTY, MA'AM.

IT'S JUST WHEN WHEN I HEAR THE COVID ASPECT OF IT, IT JUST THERE'S THERE WERE MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE TO MAINTAIN EMPLOYEES AND PROVIDE SALARIES DURING THAT TIME.

YES, FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.

BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SO I'M.

GENTLEMEN, I KNOW WE WILL NEED A MOTION TO DISCUSS AND TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THIS, BUT I'M AT A POINT WHERE 30 JOBS WERE PROMISED BACK.

WERE YOU ON COUNCIL THEN? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND AND THOSE 30 JOBS.

YOU COULD CORRECT ME.

I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU REMEMBER WERE LOCAL JOBS.

I'M ONE THAT I LOVE.

OUR OUR TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM.

I, I'M, I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF IT, BUT TO THE SAME POINT AND YOU KNOW THAT I'VE PASSED THE GAVEL TO PROVIDE THOSE JOBS FOR OUR LOCAL CITIZENS. HOWEVER IT'S FOR OUR LOCAL CITIZENS.

AND THE ONLY LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE HAVE IN THIS REGARD IS IF THE JOBS ARE NOT CREATED, THEN THE INCENTIVES THE TAX ABATEMENT IS, IS NOT WARRANTED, IN MY OPINION.

SO I WOULD NOT I WOULD ACTUALLY BE VOTING TO RESCIND IT.

THAT THAT'S MY STANCE ON THIS.

AND I KNOW THAT THE COUNTY RESCINDED IT AS WELL LAST YEAR.

SO AND IT'S A FAILURE OF THE JOBS THAT WERE PROMISED WERE NOT ALLOCATED FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I WANTED TO JUST SHARE MY STANCE ON THAT.

I BELIEVE IN WHAT YOUR COMPANY IS DOING AND INCREASING, AND I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

BUT MY COMMITMENT IS TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS, OF OUR CITY, OF THIS GREAT CITY, TO HOLD WHAT WE HAVE AS AN ACCOUNTABILITY PROCESS, THAT IF WE GIVE A TAX ABATEMENT AND WE DON'T GET THE JOBS, THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE THOSE TAXES BACK AND PERHAPS USE IT FOR ANOTHER INCENTIVE TO CREATE JOBS FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S MY THAT WOULD BE MY STANCE.

I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THE THE PROMISES THAT YOU MADE SHOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT IN MY EYES.

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SO THAT'S MY STANCE ON THAT.

ANY. DEPUTY MAYOR.

YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR.

YOU WANTED SOMETHING FROM MISS SHERMAN? NO, I JUST WANTED SOME CLARITY IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH HAVE BEEN.

I KNOW THREE YEARS INTO IT.

HOW MUCH HAS BEEN HAVE WE WAIVED, IF I MAY? YES, SIR. IT'S ABOUT $57,000, SO I COULD READ THAT REAL QUICKLY FOR YOU.

ONE SECOND. THAT'S A BREAKDOWN.

SO 2021 TAX YEAR, THE AMOUNT THAT WAS EXEMPTED IN TAXES WAS $17,089.68 IN 2022 WAS $18,609.89, AND THEN 2023 WAS $22,224.78, FOR A THREE YEAR TOTAL OF $57,924.35. THANK YOU MA'AM. A MOTION WAS CONSISTS OF RESCINDING AND IT WOULD THAT BE THE MOTION WOULD ALSO HAVE TO INCLUDE WHETHER WE WANT TO THE COMPANY TO RETURN THAT FUND OR.

YES. I MEAN, YOU COULD DO IT AS TWO SEPARATE ITEMS IF YOU WANTED TO, BUT WE NEED TO REVOKE THE ACTUAL TAX ABATEMENT.

AND THEN WE ALSO NEED YOUR DIRECTION ON THE RECOVERY OF THOSE TAXES.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. YEAH.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I LOVE THE DISCUSSION WE'RE HAVING.

BECAUSE IT PAINTS A PICTURE THAT I'LL BE SPEAKING ON THROUGHOUT THE EVENING TONIGHT.

AND WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT LAST YEAR'S PRESENTATION FROM THE ECONOMIC TEAM THAT WE CONSULTED WITH, IT SHOWED EXACTLY WHAT WE SEE HERE TODAY.

MAJOR STRENGTHS, YOUNG, DIVERSE POPULATION, MAJOR WEAKNESS, EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SAW IN THE PRESENTATION.

AND WE'RE SEEING IT RIGHT HERE BEFORE YOU.

SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.

BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS A CITY WE LOOK FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO BOOST THAT EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT LOCALLY.

SO THAT WAY THOSE JOBS CAN BE LOCAL BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY'RE EQUIPPED WITH THE NECESSARY SKILLS AND EDUCATION TO OBTAIN THOSE JOBS.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS ORDINANCE TO RESCIND.

MA'AM BUT MY QUESTION AND YOU TALKED ON IT, MAYOR.

FOR EITHER MISS SHERMAN OR MISS EBY THE COUNTY HAS A SIMILAR ORDINANCE, BUT WITH THEM, THEY HAD A TIME A TIME LIMIT. CORRECT. NOW IN TERMS OF THE PAYBACK, YES.

THE THE WAY THE COUNTY HANDLED IT WAS THE, THE THE COMPANY OWED THEM A LITTLE OVER $12,000 AND THEY GAVE THEM 60 DAYS TO MAKE THAT PAYMENT.

OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I WANTED TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LISTEN TO SPEAK WITH COUNCIL AND ALSO HEAR FROM OUR, OUR CITY ATTORNEY.

YES, THIS IS MORE THAN 12,000.

BUT I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A TIME FRAME ON THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL.

BUT I WANTED TO HEAR FROM FIRST MRS. SMITH AND THEN ALSO HEAR FROM COUNCIL STANCE ON THIS AS WELL.

I, YOU KNOW, AS MAYOR, I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS 90 DAY.

SAME AS CASH PERHAPS IS WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT YEAH, THAT THAT IS A QUESTION, I GUESS THAT FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY, I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S A POLICY DECISION FOR US UP HERE.

CERTAINLY. MADAM? YES, SIR. CERTAINLY.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE REPRESENTATIVE HERE, BEING AN HR, IS ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY INSIGHTS YOU MAY WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TIME THAN WHAT WAS PROVIDED THE COUNTY, BECAUSE IT'S IT IS AN INCREASED AMOUNT IN THE EFFORT OF HOPING THAT THEY COMPLY WITH IT INITIALLY.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LEGAL ACTION.

SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THE AMOUNT AND IF SHE CAN PROVIDE ANY INSIGHT ON THEIR ABILITY TO PAY SO WE CAN SET SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE AND THAT WE FULLY EXPECT TO BE COMPLIED WITH WITHIN THE APPLICABLE TIME.

YEAH, I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I'M SORRY. I'LL LET YOU OUT.

YOU'LL GO NEXT. LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BUILD THAT.

ON THE FLIP SIDE, I WOULDN'T WANT THE COMPANY TO GO BANKRUPT, RIGHT? I WOULDN'T WANT THAT TO OCCUR.

SO I'M. I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS.

MAYBE WE COULD DO YOU KNOW, LIKE A CERTAINLY NOT A TOO LONG OF A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT BECAUSE TO ME, THE FACT REMAINS, THEY HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR NOT CREATING THE JOBS.

THAT THAT'S MY VIEW, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO HOLD THE LINE ON THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT OTHER COMPANIES THAT WE'VE AUTHORIZED TAX ABATEMENTS, AND WE HAVE TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE IF IF WE'RE NOT, THEN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE OTHER COMPANIES? SO WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

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AND THESE ARE TAX DOLLARS FOR THAT ARE FROM OUR CITIZENS, AND THEY DON'T MIND US USING THOSE TAX DOLLARS AND PROVIDING IT TO INVEST IN THE COMPANIES.

BUT THEY WANT TO SEE THE JOBS.

AND WHEN I HEAR JOBS GOING SOMEWHERE ELSE, I WANT JOBS FOR MY PALM BAY.

AND YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY DISCUSSING HOW WE CAN INCORPORATE OUR CHILDREN WITH OUR SCHOOLS.

YOU KNOW, WE NOT THAT IT'S RELATED, BUT WE VISITED A MANUFACTURER HERE IN PALM BAY SPACE.

AND THEY MANUFACTURE WHAT THEY DO.

AND I THINK WE I'LL HAVE MISS SHERMAN BRIEF US UNDER HER REPORTS.

BUT WE THEY'VE GOT FEDERAL CONTRACTS EVEN TO THE NAVY AND PARTS THAT GO TO THE F-35.

OUR DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

THAT'S AMAZING.

AND AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO OUR CHILDREN IN HIGH SCHOOL TO BRING THEM IN.

SO IT'S RIGHT ALONG WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH WHICH IS WHAT WE BELIEVE.

AND GIVING THOSE CHILDREN OR THOSE YOUNG ADULTS OR THOSE ADULTS FROM PALM BAY WORKING HERE, PLAYING HERE, AND NOT HAVING TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN MOVING FORWARD.

SO I DIGRESS.

I'M, I'M, I'M WITH YOU.

I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.

90 DAYS.

SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME.

I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO GO EXTEND BEYOND THAT, BUT I IF WE DO, I, I CAUTION ON ON THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY MAY, YOU KNOW, DRAG THEIR FEET AS WELL.

RIGHT. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY PART.

CARRY ON DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR. QUESTION FOR STAFF.

WHAT WAS THE THE CAPITAL AND INVESTMENT ORIGINALLY? DO WE HAVE THAT NUMBER? I'LL ASK JOAN TO PULL THAT UP AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT REQUIRED PER THE ORDINANCE WAS 5.1 MILLION OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.

WHAT WE IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF ACTUAL INVESTMENT, AND I'LL READ OFF WHAT I HAVE PREPARED HERE.

THE ASSESSED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.

FOLLOWING THE CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE MADE IN 2023 WAS $3,667,820, AND THIS IS AGAIN THE ASSESSED VALUE, NOT THE APPRAISED VALUE.

THIS WAS CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.

AND FINALLY, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER YOU MIGHT NOTICE IN YOUR NOTICE THIS IN YOUR PACKET, THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE AS WELL.

WHEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS CERTIFIED THE AMOUNT AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THEIR ANNUAL REPORT, THE CERTIFICATION IS ONLY FOR 80% OF THE TOTAL AD VALOREM TAXES FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THAT NUMBER IS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION.

AND I SHARE ALL THAT TO SAY THAT IT'S IT'S NOT ALWAYS GOING TO APPEAR CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT THE VALUE IS.

WE HAD TO GO THROUGH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MECHANISMS TO CALCULATE WHAT WE BELIEVE IT IS.

SO WE'RE GOING BY THE VALUE THAT WAS ASSESSED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER, WHICH WAS THAT 3.6 MILLION PLUS THEIR TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS ALSO FACTORED AS CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

AND THAT WAS $632,072.

SO IF YOU ADD THE ASSESSED VALUE AND THE TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY TOGETHER, THE TOTAL PRIVATE CAPITAL INVESTMENT HAS AN ASSESSED VALUE OF 4.299 MILLS.

SO ABOUT 4.3 MILLION.

OKAY. WELL, WHY DO YOU ASK THAT QUESTION? GENTLEMEN, I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, LOOKED AT THE BIG PICTURE.

RIGHT. AND I THINK WE WE'RE SINGING THE SAME SONG.

WE ASKED SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS OF THE OF THE YOUNG LADY HERE.

AND AS FAR AS THE JOBS AND THE SKILL SET, I THINK WE'RE SEEING THE SAME THING.

THE THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS, IS WE HAVE TO BE CONSIDERATE OF.

YES. THEY NOT MEETING THE THE 30 JOBS JUST ABOUT A THIRD.

NOW I'M PRETTY SURE SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT CURRENT EMPLOY EMPLOYEES, THEY LIVE IN PALM BAY.

THEY SPEND IN PALM BAY, THEY PURCHASE HOUSES IN PALM BAY.

SO LOOKED AT THE GENERAL PICTURE, 5 MILLION OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BOOKS.

SO THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF CONTRIBUTION.

I GET THE ACCOUNTABILITY ASPECT.

SO I TEND TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ASPECT ON THAT.

AND I'M TOTALLY AGREE TO RESEND THAT, THAT PROGRAM, THE FIVE YEARS LEFT.

SO IT'S STILL FIVE YEARS 100% IN AGREEMENT THAT WE DO TAKE THAT BACK.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE 57, $57,000 COULD MEAN A LOT FOR A COMPANY THAT'S THERE.

AND THE MAYOR SAID SOMETHING EARLIER TODAY IN REGARDS TO COVID.

I JUST KIND OF WANT A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

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I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE WAS A MONEY ISSUE.

IT WAS A SPACE ISSUE, RIGHT? HAVING CRAMMED 30 PEOPLE IN A SPACE WHERE LIMITED THAT.

I THINK THAT TO HER POINT THAT SHE TO HER DEFENSE THAT SHE DID SAY THAT IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE MONEY THE GOVERNMENT HELP.

IT'S MORE OF THE SPACE HAVING THE PEOPLE THERE.

SO CONSIDERING THE THREE YEARS OF COVID IMPACT AND THE GREATER IMPACT, MY APPROACH WOULD BE NOT ASKING THEM TO PAY IT BACK, JUST RESEND IT. THE FIVE YEARS.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THAT TO STOP THE PROGRAM.

57,000. THOSE FOLKS ARE 5 MILLION IN CAPITAL INVESTMENT INTO OUR PROPERTY.

I'M LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, NOT JUST AM DOWN TO THE JOB CREATION.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, I DO AGREE OF ACCOUNTABILITY, SENDING A MESSAGE TO OTHER COMPANIES, BUT I'D SAY WE JUST AS TO TAKE IT AS THIS AS THEY COME AND IN ESSENCE SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE TO THIS COMPANY.

$57,000 COULD BE PRETTY A BIG HIT FOR A COMPANY.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 90 DAYS, SO I WOULDN'T BE IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND SUPPORTING THE TO RESCIND THE PROGRAM.

TO REVOKE THE PROGRAM.

BUT NOT THE SECOND ASPECT.

THAT'S WHERE I STAND. THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU. THAT'S A REALLY INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY, RIGHT.

AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT AS THE BIG PICTURE, MY PERSPECTIVE IS THEY INVESTED IN THE PROPERTY AND THERE'S GOT TO BE A HUGE AMOUNT OF EQUITY IN THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TAXING.

SO I STILL STAND THE WAY IT IS.

THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

BUT TO ME, I NEED A 30 JOBS, AND I NEEDED THAT PARTNERSHIP.

THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. YEAH.

YES. THANK YOU.

MAYOR, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO.

I'M A BETTER LISTENER THAN A TALKER.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I WAS LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE GIVING THEIR OPINION, AND I.

I'M. I'M WITH YOU ON RESCINDING THE ABATEMENT.

WE HAD AN AGREEMENT, $30.

WE HAD AN AGREEMENT.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE COMPANY FAULT THAT THEY COULDN'T MAKE THE AGREEMENT.

I THINK THE AM I RIGHT? I THINK IF YOU IF YOU HAVE THE WORKERS HERE IN PALM BAY OR BRAZIL OR WHEREVER, YOU PROBABLY HAVE MET THE REQUIREMENTS. IT'S NOT THAT YOU DIDN'T MEET.

YOU HAD THE CUSTOMERS.

THE DID THE MONEY COMING IN TO DO IT? IT'S NOT LIKE THE BUSINESS NOT MAKING MONEY.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE WORKERS TO GET THE WORK DONE.

SO BUT YOU DIDN'T.

YOU DIDN'T LIVE UP TO THE AGREEMENT, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, SO I'M I'M FOR RESENT RESCINDING.

BUT THE DEPUTY MAYOR MADE A GOOD POINT.

CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

SHOULD WE GET OUR $57,000 BACK? THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION. THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE IN MY MIND.

WE'RE GOING TO RESCIND THE ABATEMENT.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

BUT SHOULD WE GET THE 57? THOUSAND TAX DOLLARS BACK AND YOU INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU PUT A CAPITAL INVESTMENT WAY MORE THAN $57,000.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

YOU KNOW, I'M ON I'M ON THE FENCE RIGHT THERE.

OKAY. AND AND I, I AGREE WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER TO THAT ARGUMENT.

I TALKED ABOUT THE EQUITY.

RIGHT. BUT EITHER WAY, I NEED A MOTION TO MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE REVOKING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENT FOR MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS, INCORPORATED FOR FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1490 TREELINE BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST 32909 AND SEEK TO RECOVER ANY CITY TAXES WAIVED DURING THE EXEMPTION PERIOD FOR A PERIOD OF 90 DAYS.

SECOND. CAN I CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? I THINK I JUST SECONDED THAT THAT MOTION.

WELL, YOU'RE NOT GIVING ME A CHANCE I SECONDED.

HE MADE THE MOTION, I SECOND IT, BUT BECAUSE CAN WE SEPARATE THAT SUGGESTION TO SEPARATE THE TWO? BECAUSE THAT WAY IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THE MOTION BECAUSE WE I THINK WE GOT DIRECTION TO SEPARATE THE TWO BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANCE THAT IT COULD GO EITHER WAY AT THIS POINT. AND I THINK THAT THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR STAFF.

I HEARD IT AS IT COULD GO EITHER WAY.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, AT THIS POINT, IT WAS AN AGREEMENT.

THIS IS WHAT THE AGREEMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, SAID THAT'S WHAT IT WAS THIS FOR THAT THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.

SO I CAN'T REALLY JUSTIFY STILL JUST GENTLEMEN, I, I, I DISAGREE I'M SORRY.

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BECAUSE IT WASN'T BASED OFF THE, IT WASN'T BASED OFF THE VALUE OF THE.

IT WAS BASED OFF THE JOBS LIKE THAT.

WHY THE OPPOSITION OF SEPARATE THE TWO MOTION.

WELL, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'LL HAVE NO PROBLEM SEPARATING THEM.

I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

SO WE'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THE MOTION IN THE SECOND.

I'VE GOT A MOTION MADE AND I WAS SECONDED BY I SECOND THIS, I SECONDED TO RESCIND.

HIS MOTION WAS TO RESCIND AND HAVE THEM PAY IT BACK IN 90 DAYS.

I BELIEVE IT WAS. SO I'M GO WITH THAT.

I SECOND IT. SO NOW I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

SO HE'S TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING HE SAID TO RESCIND AND THEN THE PAYBACK.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

WHAT DID WE ACHIEVE? ANY MOTION. THAT'S MY POINT.

AYE, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. SAY NAY.

NAY, NAY.

FAILS TO.

2 TO 2.

ANY MOTION. SO YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION NOW? NO, HE'S. I'M.

ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MOTION? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE AVALON TAX ABATEMENT.

I'LL SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. MAYOR, CAN I JUST SPEAK BRIEFLY LIKE WE HAVE A PROGRAM? GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE WITH PARAMETERS IN PLACE.

AND WE HAVE OTHER APPLICANTS OR POTENTIAL APPLICANTS.

WE'VE HAD ROGUE VALLEY, WE'VE HAD L3 HARRIS, WE'VE AND POTENTIALLY OTHER APPLICANTS THAT MAY SEE US BENDING THE RULES IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS AND NOT IN OTHERS. SO I WOULD PREFER IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THE AD VALOREM TAX ABATEMENT PROGRAM.

WE MAKE AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, IN A MORE APPROPRIATE FASHION, BUT NOT WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE THE PARAMETERS SET PRIOR TO I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND SHE'S A YOU'RE NEWER TO THE, YOU KNOW, POSITION.

BUT EVEN US AS A CITY, WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE EVERY DAY.

BUT IT'S OUR JOB TO JUST CATCH THEM UP, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I COULD SEE IF THE CONTRACT WAS BASED OR AGREEMENT WAS BASED ON SOME OTHER PARAMETERS, BUT THE PARAMETERS IN PLACE WERE IN PLACE FROM THE JUMP.

SO. WELL, THAT'S I'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON YOUR, YOUR, YOUR COMMENT.

WE ARE RESCINDING THE TAX ABATEMENT.

THE TAX REBATE WAS, FOR WHAT, EIGHT YEARS? AND WE TAKE THAT AWAY.

THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE JOB.

HERE IN PALM BAY, THEY HAVE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN PALM BAY.

WE ARE RESCINDING THE TAX ABATEMENT.

I DON'T THINK WE AMENDED OUR TAX ABATEMENT ORDINANCE.

WE WILL SEND HIM. THE $57,000.

FOR THE FIRST THREE YEARS THEY DID WORK IN PALM BAY.

THEY HIRED IN PALM BAY.

BUT THEY COULDN'T COMPLETE THE JOB.

SO WE SEND THEM.

THEY DIDN'T LIVE UP TO THE 30 JOBS.

SO WE'RE TAKING THAT BACK.

WE'RE TAKING OUR TAX ABATEMENT BACK.

THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT.

THAT'S THAT'S ALL THE COMMENT I HAVE.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CAN WE CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I.

ALL OPPOSED. NAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO GO 2 TO 2 AGAIN.

MADAM ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS, MA'AM, BEING THAT THE PREDICAMENT WE'RE IN NOW.

PERHAPS YOU CAN VOTE TO RESCIND NOW, AND HAVE STAFF WORK WITH THEM TO COME BACK WITH A PAYMENT PLAN, THAT WE COME BACK WITH A PAYMENT PLAN, OR WITH THEM COME BACK WITH SOMEBODY ELSE APPROPRIATE FROM THEIR COMPANY, WHO CAN JUST TELL COUNCIL WHY THEY SHOULD NOT ENACT THE PAYMENT PLAN.

SO WE DIVIDE THIS IN HALF AND HAVE SOMEBODY PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.

THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.

I CAN DO THAT. OKAY.

SO MAKE A MOTION.

SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND IT.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I DO.

IS THAT UNANIMOUS? OKAY. PASSES.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

SO THEY'RE COMING BACK.

THEY'RE COMING BACK. OKAY.

I THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE THANK YOU. WE WANT 30 JOBS I KNOW, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NUMBER ONE, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS]

PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGENDA ITEMS, NUMBERS ONE, TWO, FOUR AND FIVE.

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ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH.

TO TELL THE TRUTH, ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE TO ORDER.

THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY, AND EACH WILL HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 30 MINUTES.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.

AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

ORDINANCE 2024 TEN.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS PALM BAY POINT WEST IN PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET.

THE VICINITY NORTH AND SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU COUNCIL.

AS THE APPLICANT WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT OUR PRESENTATION FROM THE PRIOR COUNCIL HEARING BE PART OF THE RECORD.

WE WANT TO BE SENSITIVE TO EVERYONE'S TIME.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. AND I'M SORRY, IF I MAY JUST ADD, WE'RE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN VERY HARD AT WORK ENGAGING POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL USERS. THAT'S BEEN OUR PRIMARY FOCUS.

WE'VE HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.

SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? I SHOULDN'T HAVE OPENED MY BIG MOUTH.

WELL, I THINK I WAS GOING TO ASK ANY POTENTIAL.

I KNOW THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME UP.

YEAH. SO.

TENETS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO US USING THEIR NAMES.

SO WITHOUT USING I GUESS.

YEAH, I GET WE ARE TALKING TO CHARTER SCHOOLS, RESTAURANTS, MEDICAL OFFICE USERS, URGENT CARE CLINICS, HOTELS.

ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE HOTELS ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO STAFF THIS WEEK WITH QUESTIONS.

RESTAURANTS? YES.

NICE RESTAURANTS.

WITHOUT MENTIONING ANY NAMES, I THINK RESTAURANTS THROW A BUNCH AT YOU.

I THINK RESTAURANT, A LOT OF LUNCH AND DINNER OPTIONS, COFFEE OPTIONS, HAMBURGERS, TAP HOUSES.

AND WE'RE EXPLORING A FOOD HALL.

OKAY. AND YOU'VE GOT A HIGH LEVEL OF INTEREST.

FROM SOME USERS.

YES, WE'RE WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.

AWESOME. OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR GREAT EATERIES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. ESTHER.

IS THAT CORRECT? PUBLIC HEARING.

SOMETHING ELSE. NUMBER ONE.

SO I ASSUME WE'RE GOING TO SEVEN.

YEAH THAT'S TRUE.

SO YOU GOT YOU GOT.

SO I'M GOING NO THIS IS NUMBER NUMBER.

NO WE'RE NOT NUMBER ONE.

YEAH. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT UNDER.

WE'RE NOT. SO.

OH YEAH. YOU'LL BE BACK.

NO NUMBER ONE I.

OKAY. OKAY.

ANY ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER CARDS.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MISS SMITH. ORDINANCE 20 2411, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, APPROVING A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO BE KNOWN AS PALM

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BAY POINT EAST IN PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING.

WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF AND ADJACENT TO BABCOCK STREET.

THE VICINITY NORTH AND SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE AND ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE.

DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE ARE COMFORTABLE WITH OUR PRESENTATION FROM THE LAST COUNCIL HEARING AND WOULD ASK THAT THAT BE PART OF THE RECORD.

ONE THING I WOULD ADD, ONE OF THE GROUPS I REACHED OUT TO IS THE VA, AND WE WOULD BE SO THRILLED TO HAVE THE VA AS PART OF OUR PROJECT.

IT'S BEEN TOUGH GAINING TRACTION FROM THEM, AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT WE WELCOME STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS OR IDEAS, AS WELL AS COUNCIL'S RECOMMENDATION OR IDEAS, NOT JUST IN REGARD TO THE VA, BUT TO POTENTIAL END USERS.

THIS IS A COLLABORATION AND A GROUP EFFORT, AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT KNOWN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NO SPEAKER CARDS.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

AYE, AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ORDINANCE 20 2415, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT TEN, BLOCK 2396, PORT MALABAR.

UNIT 45.

ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22, PAGE 12 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL RESIDENTS.

MICHAEL LAGROTTA, 191 NAZARETH STREET.

I'M REQUESTING TO VACATE EIGHT FEET OF THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT FOR THE STORM DRAIN.

THAT'S BEHIND MY HOUSE FOR THE PURPOSES OF INSTALLING SWIMMING POOL.

A NICE SWIMMING POOL FOR YOU.

YES. YES, HOPEFULLY.

COPY THAT. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SHARE? ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SHARE? NO. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AS THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN PECOS, OWNER OF 37 CAMDEN AVENUE, NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

I'M HERE TO REQUEST A VARIANCE OF 5.3FT FROM THE TEN FOOT REAR SETBACK FOR AN EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR. OKAY SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY SECOND JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC PUBLIC HEARING AS THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT.

MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT. YES, MA'AM.

YEAH. GOOD EVENING, ANNA SAUNDERS WITH DSC CONSULTANTS REPRESENTING THE PROJECT.

WE ARE HERE TONIGHT FOR PHASE TWO OF THE RIVERWOOD PROJECT, REQUESTING THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL FOR THAT.

TO REMIND YOU, THERE'S TWO MORE SUBSEQUENT PHASES IN THAT MAIER.

AT THE LAST.

THE LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU WAS FOR A PREVIOUS PHASE FOR THE FINAL PLAT, AND YOU ASKED ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE TRAFFIC FS AGREEMENT.

WE JUST HAD A CALL WITH STAFF EARLIER TODAY AND THE CLIENT ON THE PHONE HAPPY TO REPORT BACK THAT THAT AGREEMENT IS 90 TO 95% COMPLETE.

SHOULD BE TRANSMITTING THAT OVER TO THE CITY NEXT WEEK.

SO THAT CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN BE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.

AND WITH ANY LUCK, I WOULD AM HOPEFUL THAT THAT AGREEMENT WILL COME BACK BEFORE YOU WITH THE PHASE THREE AND FOUR THAT WILL COMPLETE THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE ANTICIPATING SHOULD BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS IN APRIL.

CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON THAT, THAT AGREEMENT ON THE TRAFFIC PROPORTIONATE SHARE?

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IT'S SO I THINK JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE HANG UP.

THE NUMBERS HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT.

THERE'S NO TRIP GENERATION RATE THAT THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN AGREED TO.

ALL THE TECHNICALITIES HAVE BEEN WORKED OUT WITH YOUR CITY ENGINEER AND OUR OWN TRAFFIC TEAM.

IT WAS JUST THE DOCUMENT LANGUAGE ITSELF.

YOU GUYS WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HIRE ON ANOTHER CITY ATTORNEY, MR. RODRIGUEZ. AND WHEN HE WE PRIOR TO HIS ENGAGEMENT HERE, WE HAD NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT WITH MISS SMITH.

MR. RODRIGUEZ CAME IN, LOOKED AT THAT AGREEMENT, HAD A FEW TWEAKS.

OUR OFFICE, OUR LEGAL TEAM WAS LOOKING AT THAT AND IS COORDINATING WITH HIM TO, YOU KNOW, SMOOTH THAT OUT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

YES, SIR. ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IT IN THE PNC MINUTES, BUT DURING THE PRESENTATION, DURING THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION REGARDING THE POTENTIAL OF A CATTLE ROAD THAT WOULD MIGHT BE ACCESSING THE NEIGHBORING ADJACENT PROPERTY. I WANT YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEIR LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE YESTERDAY, PROVIDED ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE WITH RESPECT TO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING INTO THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE PLAT AND THE SURVEY, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE NOT, IN FACT, CUTTING OFF ANY KIND OF CATTLE ROAD.

THE THE REFERENCE THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO IS ACTUALLY THE ADJACENT MELBOURNE TILLMAN CANAL RIGHT OF WAY THAT DOES GET UTILIZED BY, YOU KNOW, VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TRACTORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR ACCESS.

BUT THERE IS NO ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH PHASE TWO, PHASE ONE, 3 OR 4, THE PROPERTY COLLECTIVE AS A WHOLE.

AND SO WE ARE NOT WE HAVE NO NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR SITE ACCESS ISSUES.

THANK YOU. AND JUST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO ASK.

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

MISS SMITH. ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 16, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE, SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT'S MISS SHERMAN TO PRESENT THIS.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IN BRIEF, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT PROPOSES SOME AMENDMENTS, SOME CHANGES TO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT SPECIFIC TO REGULATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT FOR MANY YEARS.

THAT RESTRICTS CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES FROM BEING IN PLACE EAST OF THE RAILROAD IN PALM BAY, BUT SPECIFIC TO THE AREA THAT IS IN THE BAYFRONT CRA.

SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL TO REMOVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS FOR CERTAIN COMMERCIAL USES IN AREAS THAT ARE EAST OF THE THE RAILROAD, RAILROAD AND WITHIN THE BAYFRONT CRA. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MISS SHERMAN TO PRESENT THIS CASE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THIS IS OUR CONSIDERATION OF THE PROGRAM.

YEAR 2024 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND RECOMMENDATIONS OF PROGRAMS AND ACTIVITIES TO BE FUNDED BY CDBG.

THE FIRST HEARING ESSENTIALLY JUST IN BRIEF, AND WE CAN GO INTO GREATER DETAILS AS COUNCIL DESIRES.

WE'RE THE KDAB BOARD HAS RECOMMENDED THE APPROVAL OF CDBG FUNDING FOR THE FOLLOWING ENTITIES.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SPACE COAST AREA TRANSIT, THE GREATER MELBOURNE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE, CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF CENTRAL FLORIDA, BREVARD ALZHEIMER'S FOUNDATION, THE CONKLIN DAVIS CENTER FOR THE VISUALLY IMPAIRED, AND THEN FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. FIRST THREE OUT OF THE PARKS AND FACILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR IMPROVEMENTS AT LIBERTY PARK, THE AQUATIC CENTER AND RIVIERA PARK, AND THEN ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT FOR A STREETLIGHT AND SIDEWALK PROJECTS.

AND EB BERARDI, OUR ACTING DIRECTOR, IS ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND WE'LL HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I'LL WAIT TILL AFTER. OKAY.

YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU CALLED UP?

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YEAH, CERTAINLY. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ESTHER THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY.

PLEASANT. GOOD NIGHT TO OUR MAYOR.

MA'AM, CAN YOU GET THAT MIC CLOSER TO YOU? YES. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

GOOD NIGHT. PLEASANT.

GOOD NIGHT TO OUR MAYOR, ROB MOLINA, DEPUTY MAYOR DONALD FELIX, AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBER, KENNY JOHNSON AND RANDY RANDY FOSTER.

AND ALL OTHER MEMBERS ARE SITTING UP THERE.

WELL, I'M HERE WITH OUR ASSISTANT FOR ESSER MR. THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY ASSISTANT ILLUSTRATOR BRENDA SPURLOCK.

WE ARE HERE REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL AS IT RELATES TO THE GRANT PROGRAM.

REASON FOR US COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS RELATED TO THE GRANT APPLICATION AND THE FACT THAT WE WERE NOT CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING.

I COME WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY TO APPEAL THE DECISION REGARDING THE RECENT GRANT APPLICATION SUBMITTED BY ESSER THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY. WE ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT.

SO HERE WE ARE.

AND TRYING TO GET SOME HELP SO WE CAN HAVE THE GRANT TO HELP THE STUDENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO EASTER SCHOOL.

AND THIS IS A PROGRAM CALLED THE ALTERNATIVE TO INCARCERATION.

THIS PROGRAM HELPED THOSE WHO HAD BEEN INCARCERATION IN THE PAST, HELPING THEM TO GET A FUTURE, TO GET AN EDUCATION SO THEY CAN BE GAINFULLY EMPLOYED AND GO BACK OUT IN SOCIETY AND BE A HELP TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S A REASON WHY WE'RE HERE.

AND I NOW HAVE MISS SPURLOCK SPEAK TO YOU.

OKAY. SO AS DOCTOR BOLAND MENTIONED WE'RE HERE REGARDING OUR APPEAL LETTER THAT WE SUBMITTED TO THE CDAB, THE ADVISORY BOARD.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF BEFORE I GET INTO THAT.

SO AS SHE MENTIONED, I AM THE ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR AT ESSER.

I WAS IN MY PREVIOUS LIFE, I WAS CHIEF OF ACQUISITIONS FOR AN AGENCY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, AND I MANAGED A QUARTER BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.

AND IN MY OFFICE, I WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL STATEMENT OF WORK, ALL REQUESTS FOR PROPOSALS, ALL CONTRACTS, CONTRACT AWARD, CONTRACT NEGOTIATION PROPOSAL EVALUATIONS.

I WAS ALSO THE AUTHOR OF THE ACQUISITIONS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE FOR THE MILITARY HEALTH SYSTEM THAT WAS UTILIZED BY ALL OF THE AGENCIES WITHIN THAT UMBRELLA.

AND ONE OF MY CAREER POSITIONS, I WAS ALSO AN AUDITOR FOR THE INSPECTOR GENERAL, AND I AUDITED ORGANIZATIONS FOR THEIR COMPLIANCE WASTE AND ABUSE AND MISMANAGEMENT.

SO I SAY ALL OF THAT TO SAY THAT I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE EVALUATION PROCESS FOR A PROPOSAL.

I BELIEVE YOU HAVE OUR APPEAL LETTER IN YOUR PACKET AND THE RESPONSE THAT THAT WE RECEIVED.

SO IN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR, FOR THE CDBG GRANT, YOU THERE WAS A SCHEDULE THAT SHOWED THAT THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE ON JANUARY 3RD, AND THEN THERE WAS A PERIOD OF ABOUT 30 DAYS, ALMOST 30 DAYS FOR STAFF REVIEW OF THOSE PROPOSALS.

NOW TEN APPLICANTS WERE WERE APPLICATIONS WERE SUBMITTED.

SO THERE WERE TEN APPLICANTS.

30 DAYS FOR STAFF REVIEW IS SUFFICIENT TIME.

NEXT ON YOUR SCHEDULE WAS THE DATE OF FEBRUARY 21ST FOR EVALUATION AND SELECTION BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.

SO YOU HAVE ONE DAY FOR THE ADVISORY BOARD TO EVALUATE TEN PROPOSALS.

NOW, IN MY EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT ONE DAY AT A MINIMUM, YES, BUT IT WAS STATED THAT IT WOULD BE IN A MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON THE 21ST HERE WHERE ALL THE APPLICANTS WERE PRESENT.

THE MEETING WAS A TWO HOUR MEETING.

THERE IS NO WAY POSSIBLE FOR AN ADVISORY BOARD TO REVIEW TEN I'VE TEN PROPOSALS IN TWO HOURS,

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ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT THE ITEM FOR THE GRANT WAS THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

SO YOU'RE SITTING THROUGH A WHOLE MEETING LISTENING TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE MEETING.

AND AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU HAVE TO EVALUATE TEN PROPOSALS AND USE A SELECTION CRITERIA THAT WAS GIVEN IN THE RFP.

NOW THE SELECTION, THE CRITERIA FOR SCORING SAYS THEY WOULD RECEIVE 20 POINTS FOR INTRODUCTION, TEN POINTS FOR DESCRIPTION OF TARGET CLIENTS. MAC TEN POINTS FOR MEASURABLE OUTCOMES AND TEN POINTS FOR.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF IT, BUT THEY HAVE A SCORING CRITERIA.

SO TO EVALUATE TEN PROPOSALS AND LOOK AT EACH PROPOSAL FOR THESE ITEMS, THESE SECTIONS COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN THAT MEETING.

NOW THE RESPONSE TO OUR LETTER WAS THAT, OH RESPONSE TO THE LETTER, BECAUSE ONE, ONE BOARD MEMBER SPOKE UP AND SAID THAT HE DID NOT FEEL THAT THE SCORING OF THOSE PROPOSALS WERE DONE CORRECTLY.

AND WHEN WE REFERRED TO HIS COMMENTS IN OUR LETTER BECAUSE HE STATED THAT THE THE SCORING WAS DONE BASED ON A FEW MINUTES OF PRESENTATION BY EACH, EACH APPLICANT.

NOW, THE RESPONSE WE RECEIVED SAID THAT THIS BOARD MEMBER AND I CAN READ IT, IT SAID THE STAFF WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST KDAB MEETING FOR MR. ASGARI THAT MR. ASGARI ATTENDED. SO WE ARE NOT CERTAIN HOW THOROUGHLY HE WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THE PACKET.

NOW, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW.

SO IF ONE BOARD MEMBER IS SPEAKING UP SAYING I COULD NOT ACCURATELY SCORE.

THEN I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TREATED DIFFERENTLY.

SO ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WOULD HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE PACKETS AND TO DO THE SCORING.

SO MY OUR POSITION IS THAT IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WASN'T JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS, THAT THE ALL THE APPLICANTS BE DESERVE TO KNOW HOW THE THE EVALUATION WAS ACTUALLY DONE WHEN THE ADVISORY BOARD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL TEN PROPOSALS, AND WHY THE SCORING CRITERIA THAT WAS PUBLISHED WAS CIRCUMVENTED.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I ALSO HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER POINT.

MR. AGUIRRE THAT SPOKE UP, SAYING THAT HE DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

WELL, I'M.

DON'T QUOTE ME. I'M PARAPHRASING THAT HE DIDN'T FEEL THAT THE SCORING WAS DONE CORRECTLY.

HIS OBJECTION WAS NEVER NOTED IN THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING.

BECAUSE I LOOKED AT IT.

I LOOKED TO SEE IF HIS OBJECTION WAS NOTED AND IT WAS NOT NOTED IN THE MEETING MINUTES.

I THINK IT WAS REDACTED.

NO. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR.

IT DOES. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? I MEAN, I WISH THERE WERE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

WELL, MR. FELIX WAS THERE.

OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

YEAH. ANY ANY QUESTIONS OF I GUESS I'LL JUMP.

I WANTED TO ASK.

I WANTED TO ASK DEPUTY MAYOR SINCE HE WAS PRESENT.

YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU WERE PRESENT? CERTAINLY. YES, MAYOR.

I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THE HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY.

I MEAN, I'M FAIRLY NEW TO THAT BOARD, AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT GIVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD AS I ASK.

AND THIS IS A BOARD THAT PARTICULARLY INTERESTING TO ME, REALLY HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE ARE MAJOR DECISIONS TO THOSE PROVIDERS, YOU KNOW, CITY THAT THAT REALLY SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN DIFFERENT CAPACITY AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT AREA.

I'M NOT GOING TO COMMENT NECESSARILY ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM ITEM, BUT BUT TO ME, I THINK THE PROCESS IN PLACE CURRENTLY NO SUCH SYSTEM IS PERFECT, RIGHT.

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I THAT THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

AND I WILL IF MISS SHERMAN WOULD ALLOW ME BRING ACTING DIRECTOR FORWARD.

WE'LL ASK A QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE ALL PROCESS.

IT'S NEW TO ME AS WELL.

BUT AS SHE MOVED FORWARD AND THIS SYSTEM, THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR, FOR FOR A WHILE.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE IN, IN HER OPINION, PROFESSIONAL OPINION, HAS THIS BEEN WORKING? IS THERE A CONCERN IN TERMS OF HOW HOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE SCORING PROCEDURE HAS BEEN HAS IT EVER BEEN CHALLENGED OR QUESTIONED? NUMBER ONE SECOND ASPECT OF MY QUESTION WOULD BE MY MIND WENT BLANK.

IT'S PROBABLY GETTING OLD, BUT BUT IF YOU YEAH, IF YOU WOULD ACT ON THAT ANSWER, THAT PART OF IT.

SINCE HAVE YOU SEEN ANYBODY EVER CHALLENGE THAT PART? AND THE QUESTION IS I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THIS THE PACKAGE WAS SENT OUT.

I'VE RECEIVED IT.

THEN, WELL, IT GOES BACK TO THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TO, TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AS, AS GOOD SERVANT ON THAT BOARD TO REVIEW THOSE PACKAGES AND, AND READ UP AND FIND OUT, DO THE DUE DILIGENCE ABOUT THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR THEM AS WELL.

SO GO GO AHEAD PLEASE.

SO YES DEPUTY MAYOR, IT IS NOT UNCOMMON FOR AGENCIES WHEN THEY DO NOT GET THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING. THIS YEAR WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

WE, WE RECEIVED OVER TEN.

YEAH, THAT'S A LOT.

AND FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY OF CDBG FUNDING THAT WE DO RECEIVE, IT'S ONLY 15%.

WE CAN'T GO PAST THAT 15%.

THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A FINDING IF WE ALLOCATE MORE THAN THAT.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE OVER $300,000 WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THESE AGENCIES REQUESTING FUNDS AND YOU COULD ONLY DO 111,000, I BELIEVE IT WAS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DECIDE, AS A BOARD MEMBER, TO DECIDE WHICH ONE YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO.

UNFORTUNATELY, AS THEOLOGIAN SCORED A NUMBER EIGHT, SO THEY WERE ALREADY RANKED PRETTY LOW.

SO HAD THEY SCORED A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME OF THE FUNDING OR THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE CDB FOR SOME OF THE FUNDING. AS FAR AS THE PROCEDURES.

SO STAFF LOOKS AT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND WE DO HAVE A TIME SCHEDULE.

SO THE WEEK PRIOR WE ASK CDAP BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN ARE YOU PICKING UP YOUR PACKET BECAUSE YOU GUYS CAN PICK THEM UP EITHER PAPER, WHICH WOULD BE A BINDER THAT BIG, OR YOU CAN GET THEM EMAILED TO YOU, WHICHEVER YOU PREFER.

WE'RE GOING TO SEND THEM TO YOU THAT WAY, AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE AND ON HAND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE CDB BOARD MEMBERS.

HOW IS THIS SCORING DONE? SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULD BE COMPLICATED IF IT WAS YOUR FIRST MEETING, WHICH IT WAS FOR KDA BOARD MEMBER GARY.

BUT I DO REMEMBER SITTING THERE WITH HIM AND I HAD THE SCORE SHEETS OUT AND I ASKED HIM, DO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND HE HAD, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALREADY SCORING THE WAY HE WANTED TO DO IT.

IF HE HAD ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS COULD ALWAYS ASK, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP OUT.

BUT THAT WAS THE CDHB'S RECOMMENDATION AND THEY SCORED EIGHT.

I WISH, I WISH WE COULD GET ALL THE AGENCIES, ALL THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY GOOD CAUSES.

OKAY, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, MA'AM.

THE FIRST IS, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE SAID ON THIS BOARD FOR FOR YEARS, SIR.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GET TO YOU.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST LET ME ASK A FEW QUESTIONS THAT THE VERY FIRST QUESTION IS THE THE OMISSION OF WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE IN THE IN THE MINUTES.

SO WE WE DO HAVE NEW STAFF.

I DON'T HAVE THE MINUTES HERE WITH ME.

I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY BAG AND LOOK THROUGH THAT PAPERWORK, BECAUSE WE JUST HAD THE CDB MEETING LAST NIGHT TO SEE IF THAT WAS OMITTED.

BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WAS DONE PURPOSEFULLY OR MALICIOUSLY.

OKAY. AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS WAS IT A PROCEDURAL THING OF WHY THEY RANK SO HIGH.

WAS IT THAT THEY NEEDED ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE IN THE GRANT PROCESS? COULD HAVE THEY IMPROVED IN THAT PROCESS? AND IF SO, HOW CAN WE IS THERE AN AVENUE FOR US TO ASSIST THEM IN FUTURE PROCESSES? ABSOLUTELY. SO IF IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME APPLYING FOR CDBG FUNDING FROM THE RFP, YOU HAVE TO AUTOMATICALLY DO.

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IT'S REQUIRED A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH I BELIEVE ESTHER THEOLOGIAN DID AT THAT TIME WHEN THEY SPEAK WITH OUR HOUSING ADMINISTRATOR.

AND AT THE AT THAT TIME, IT WAS THE FORMER DIRECTOR, NANCY BUNT, THEY HAD THEIR OPPORTUNITY.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT WAS THE LENGTH OF THEIR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, BUT I CAN ALWAYS GO BACK AND CHECK AND THAT'S THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO ASK, WHAT'S THE BEST WAY THAT I CAN APPLY FOR THIS? WHAT ARE OTHER EXAMPLES? WHAT ARE THE SERVICES THAT, AS A SCHOOL, I CAN REALLY APPLY FOR THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR CDBG.

SO THOSE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED AND THEY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ASK IF THAT'S THE PROPOSAL THEY WANT TO GO WITH.

AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED IN THEIR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

MOST OF THE WELL, OUR FORMER DIRECTOR HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

I WASN'T IN ON THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED.

LIKE WHAT? WHAT DO YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH THE FUNDING? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN FIND OUT THOUGH, SO THERE MAY BE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

IF THEY WANT TO APPLY NEXT YEAR, WE'LL BE AVAILABLE AND READY.

AND THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, WILL OFFER THAT TO THEM.

SO THE PROCESS THAT ENSUED WAS FAIR AND JUST IN YOUR OPINION? IN MY OPINION.

OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON YOU'VE SAID ON THIS BOARD.

YES, SIR. I'VE BEEN WAITING BECAUSE I THINK I CAN FILL IN A LOT OF THE GAPS FOR A LOT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.

AND I KNOW MISS NANCY ISN'T HERE, BUT I THINK I COULD SPEAK ON HER BEHALF ON A LOT OF IT AS WELL.

SO FIRST, COMING IN ON TO THE BOARD IN 2019 I QUICKLY NOTICED AS WELL AS STAFF, THERE COULD BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE SCORE SHEET BECAUSE IT WAS FROM 0 TO 10 ON CERTAIN AREAS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY DIDN'T PERFORM TO THEIR THE LEVEL THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE, THE LOWEST SCORE THEY COULD GET WAS ZERO, WHERE A BRAND NEW AGENCY, YOU KNOW, JUST COMING IN WASN'T GETTING A FAIR SHOT.

AND WE NOTICED THAT IN THE SCORE SHEET.

SO THERE WAS REVISIONS MADE TO THAT AS WELL.

AND BEING ON THE BOARD THIS IS FOR THAT'S I'M LOVING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE FOR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX GOING IN KNOWING WHAT I'M I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT YOU KNOW, THAT KNOWLEDGE YOU CAN GO INTO IT AND SEE SEE WHAT I SAW, TOO IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.

AND ONE THING I SAW, AND I APPRECIATE MISS NANCY FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE VOTING BASED OFF THE PRESENTATION RIGHT THEN AND THERE INSTEAD OF DOING THE THOROUGH EXAMINATION PRIOR.

SO THAT'S WHEN I WAS, YOU KNOW, PUSHING FOR, YOU KNOW ONLY HAVE PRESENTATIONS IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS TO ELABORATE ON, BUT THAT WAY IT SHOWS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH THE PACKET, YOU WENT THROUGH EACH APPLICANT, YOU SAW WHAT THEIR INTENDED USE WAS, HOW MANY THEY'RE GOING TO SERVE AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU HIGHLIGHT IT, BUT IT SHOWS THAT THAT THOROUGHNESS WAS DONE.

AND I WASN'T SEEING THAT IN CERTAIN AREAS.

AND NOBODY'S PERFECT.

NOBODY'S PERFECT. BUT THAT WAS SOMETHING I SAW IN STAFF SAW.

AND I APPRECIATE MISS NANCY ON IT.

AND ON THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS PORTION OF IT, THEY, THEY WERE AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH, YOU KNOW, NONPROFITS DURING MY TIME AND EVEN TIMES WHERE NON-PROFITS WILL REACH OUT TO ME, I WOULD REFER THEM BACK TO NANCY.

AND THEY HAD THAT COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, SO I KNOW SHE'S NOT HERE, BUT I KNOW FOR SURE SHE'S REALLY WORKING HARD TO TRY TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS WELL EQUIPPED TO APPLY. AND I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS ANYWAYS, MAYOR, BECAUSE I WAS EMAILING MISS EBY AND STAFF AND THIS IS JUST RECOMMENDATIONS US AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS OR WE CAN CHANGE THEM OR, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT, DENY OR WHATEVER.

AND I DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY PULL THE RUG FROM SOME, BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE IT AS A TIME WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, AND WE HAVE THE HIGH PRIORITIES FOR THIS.

THIS BOARD AND THE HIGH PRIORITIES ARE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, SENIOR SERVICES, TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.

YOUTH SERVICES.

SECURITY DEPOSITS, RENTAL.

HOUSING. SUBSIDIES.

TENANT. LANDLORD COUNSELING, WHICH ALL OF THESE FIT IN THAT CRITERIA.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PRESENTATION LAST YEAR OF OUR MAIN WEAKNESSES, EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, I THINK THIS IS INFORMATION OUR BOARD SHOULD HAVE TOO, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL GIVE THEM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON SOME OF THE SOME OF THE PROJECTS OR SOME OF THE APPLICANTS THAT COME BEFORE THEM.

SO I WOULD ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE STAFF TO GET THAT PRESENTATION OVER TO THE BOARD.

SO THAT WAY THEY CAN SEE MORE OF WHAT WE SEE SO THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER, YOU KNOW CLARITY ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE OF THE CITY OF THE CITY ARE NOT TO DISCREDIT SENIOR SERVICES OR TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, BUT WE DID IT.

WE PAID MONEY FOR A PRESENTATION FOR THE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CITY.

THIS IS A PART THIS IS A PIECE IN THAT PUZZLE TOO.

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SO I THINK THAT BOARD SHOULD HAVE IT AS WELL.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I'M JUST TALKING, YOU KNOW, TO COUNCIL, I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF AMENDING IT HOWEVER OR, YOU KNOW, JUST GIVING THE BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL, JUST LIKE THEY'RE GIVING US SO THEY CAN MAKE BETTER INFORMED DECISIONS.

BUT IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE, YOU KNOW, ON EACH INDIVIDUAL MEMBER FOR JUST SETTING ASIDE THE TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS.

AND MAYBE YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT TO ASK, BUT AT LEAST TALK TO STAFF IN YOUR DOWNTIME.

LIKE, HEY, CAN I GET CAUGHT UP ON THIS AND THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO.

I WAS IN NANCY'S OFFICE ALL THE TIME TRYING TO GET SOME MORE CLARIFICATION.

SO IF ME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER HAD TO DO IT, I KNOW SOME VOLUNTEERS WOULD HAVE TO DO IT AS WELL.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE A QUICK RUNDOWN FROM 2019.

AND NOW MAYOR OF KIND OF WHAT I SAW ON THE BOARD.

AND I HOPE IT HELPS YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I KNOW PROBABLY BECAUSE I WATCHED I TUNED IN TO THE MEETINGS.

EVEN THOUGH I LET IT GO, I STILL TUNE IN TO THE MEETINGS.

AND I SEE SOME PEOPLE KIND OF I KNOW THEIR NICHE FOR WHAT NONPROFIT THEY, YOU KNOW, OR WHAT CAUSE THEY SUPPORT, LIKE FOR MINE IS YOUTH, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE FUTURE EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I GOT TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT THE NEEDS OF THE CITY ARE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M DONE.

MAYOR I'VE, I KNOW WE GOT TWO HOURS.

CAN I MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE? YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, SIR.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. GO AHEAD.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, I LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE, AND, AND I TEND TO AGREE ON.

BUT HERE'S WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS.

YOU HAVE A ADVISORY MEMBER? DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HE WAS DOING.

APPARENTLY HE FELT THAT THE SCORING WAS WRONG OR HE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE SCORING.

HE MADE A COMMENT.

IT COULD BE VERY COMPLICATED.

THE SCORING CAN BE COMPLICATED WHEN IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME BECAUSE YOU'RE LOOKING.

AND THIS YEAR IT WAS TEN PACKETS.

AND YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY SAY.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THE FINANCIALS, YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THE HISTORY OF THE AGENCY.

YOU'RE LOOKING OVER THE PRIOR SERVICE.

IF THEY DID HAVE SERVICES THE YEAR PRIOR.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING DID THEY MEET THE GOAL.

RIGHT. RIGHT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WHEN IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO SCORE WRONG OR NOT APPROPRIATE OR NOT BY THE GUIDELINES, THEN NOT ONLY IS THE THEOLOGICAL CEMETERY SCORE IS MESSED UP, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE SCORED MIGHT BE OFF TOO.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YES, SIR. IT ONLY TAKES ONE ONE OUT OF A BOARD OF 6 OR 7.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IS ON THIS BOARD.

I DON'T, I DON'T I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BOARD.

BUT I'VE BEEN ON BOARDS AND I'VE BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE I HAD TO SCORE AND RATE SOMEONE.

PACKAGE. YES.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT EDUCATED ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING OR HOW TO DO IT OR WHAT GUIDELINES YOU HAVE, THEN YOUR SCORE IS NOT IN TUNE WITH YOUR OTHER COLLEAGUES ON THAT BOARD.

SO IF YOU'RE TOTALLY CONFUSED OR UNEDUCATED OR DIDN'T DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE AND LOOKING OVER THE PACKET, THEN YOU IMPROPERLY SCORED.

NOT ONLY IS THE WRONG, BUT THE REST OF THE PERSON.

YOU MIGHT SCORE SOMEBODY HIGHER THAN WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN SCORED OR LOWERED, THAN WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SCORED, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE PARAMETERS ARE HOT OR HOW THE PROCEDURE HOW TO DO IT.

SO THIS THIS IS WHY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BECAUSE THIS GROUP IS COMING.

THEY COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR SCORE, BUT SOMEBODY ELSE WHO DIDN'T GET FUNDING.

MAYBE THEY COMPLAINED, BUT THEY DIDN'T COME UP HERE AND MAKE IT VOCAL.

SO THIS THIS WHAT THIS IS THE PROBLEM I HAVE.

SO WHAT WE SHOULD DO ABOUT IT.

JUST LET IT GO.

WELL, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THE QUESTION.

WELL I'M NOT SURE THAT'S A QUESTION THAT WE SHOULD POSE ON.

ON OUR OUR NEW.

NO, NO, I'M NOT POSING THAT HONOR ON HER.

I'M POSING THAT ON ON ON ON US ON THE DAIS.

ALL RIGHT, SIR? THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.

I'M SORRY I DIDN'T CLARIFY AS YOU WERE, SIR.

SO THEN LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU.

LET'S TAKE INTO EVERYTHING THAT THE DIALOG TAKE INTO THE HARD WORK THAT OUR BOARD, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR OUR STAFF HAS TAKEN.

RIGHT. AND AS I SEE THESE RANKINGS RIGHT, THERE WERE TOP FIVE ESSER THEOLOGICAL CAME IN EIGHTH.

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NUMBER SIX WAS CLUB ESTEEM.

NUMBER SEVEN WAS GRANDPARENTS RAISING GRANDCHILDREN.

NUMBER EIGHT WAS ESTHER THEOLOGICAL AND THEN FAMILY PROMISE AND AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD.

THOSE SIX THROUGH TEN DID NOT QUALIFY.

THEY WERE NOT RANKED BASED ON NUMBER.

WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR IS SAYING OR WHAT KENNY JOHNSON OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS SAYING, IS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LET OUR BOARD KNOW THAT EDUCATION IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT MOVING FORWARD, NOT TO DESPAIR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT'S ALREADY GONE.

DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THIS ON AS WELL.

RIGHT FROM THE STAFF AND THE BOARD.

AND AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER FOR SOMEONE TO JUST MOVE IN ON THIS.

IT IS A LOT OF WORK FOR THEM TO DIGEST.

BUT EVEN IF THE POINT SYSTEM IS, IS.

SO LIKE CLUB HAS SEEN JUST MISSED THE MARK, RIGHT? BY THE TOP FIVE.

THEN YOU HAD GRANDPARENTS THAT WERE THEY MISSED THE MARK BY.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RANKING SYSTEM AND THE NUMBERS THE THE TOTAL OF THE GROUP.

SO I'M, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT PLAYED A CRITICAL ROLE IN THEM REACHING THAT TOP FIVE.

HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID.

I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON STRUCK SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT AND HAVE OUR BOARD LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE IS THE EDUCATION OF OUR YOUTH, WHETHER IT'S IN THE THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY ASPECT OR TRAINING TO CREATE THOSE JOBS THAT WE ARE SO VIVIDLY IN AGREEMENT WITH.

RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, THE 30 JOBS, THE DENTAL OPPORTUNITIES, RIGHT, THAT WE WISH WE HAD.

SO I AM I AM IN MOVING THIS FORWARD.

THIS IS MY POSITION.

HOWEVER PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE HAVE DIALOG WITH THE THEOLOGICAL THAT THAT WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW, THE COMPLICATED PROCESS TO TO, YOU KNOW, BUY IN FOR THIS, BUT TO ALSO INSTRUCT OUR, OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHAT'S IMPORTANT MOVING FORWARD FROM WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PAID FOR, AS YOU SO ELOQUENTLY PUT IT, IN MOVING OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD BE GENTLEMEN DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU SIT ON THIS BOARD, SO I'M GOING TO YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO YOU, SIR.

MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB.

SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS THERE.

ONE THING, THOUGH, IF YOU LOOKED AT THE TOP FIVE, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT GOT GOT FUNDED TRANSPORTATION CHECK MARK.

YOU KNOW PAL, THE GREATER MELBOURNE PAL.

THAT'S THE IOOF.

RIGHT. GETTING SERVICES, INCLUDING EDUCATION.

ALL ELDERLY COMMUNITY.

BREVARD ALZHEIMER FOUNDATION, I MEAN, YOU KNOW SO, SO TO SOME DEGREE, I MEAN, ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING ESSER FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU GUYS DO, I MEAN, VERY WORTHY SERVICE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

THE NEEDS ARE SO GREAT, BUT THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY.

SO SOMEHOW, SOME WAY FOLKS ARE GOING TO WALK OUT GREAT WORTHY SERVICES.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND THEM ALL.

WHAT WE ASK IS TO STAY IN THE STAY ON, ON COURSE, COME BACK NEXT YEAR.

HOPEFULLY WE WANT NUMBER 1ST MAY NOT HAVE AS MANY APPLICANTS.

I THINK THE SYSTEM AS AS COMPLICATED IT MAY BE.

IT'S STILL FAIR.

WHAT I WOULD SAY PUT IT BACK ON THE MEMBERS TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO TO SCORE ACCORDINGLY.

BUT YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THAT THE SOMEWHAT BIASED SYSTEM BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE WHAT MAY BE IMPORTANT CAUSES THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT FOR ME MAY NOT BE. SO IT'S REALLY KEEPING IN MIND WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS FOR THE FOR THE BOARD NUMBER ONE.

AND DO YOUR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE.

AND I THINK THAT'S HOW WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT.

BUT THE FIVE ORGANIZATION I WAS A BIT SURPRISED MYSELF.

THERE'S A CERTAIN ORGANIZATION THAT DIDN'T GET FUNDED.

I'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, GETTING SOME IN MY RECOMMENDATION AT SOME POINT, BEING A NEW MEMBER.

LET'S JUST, YOU KNOW, GO BACK ON THE DRAWING BOARD AND LET'S, LET'S GET LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS SOMETHING.

BUT I WAS QUICKLY YOU KNOW, CORRECTED THAT WE CANNOT DO THAT.

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SO BUT BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MY VIEW AT THE TIME.

BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.

WE HAVE SO MUCH MONEY. WE HAVE SO MANY APPLICANTS.

EACH MEMBER GOING TO FEEL DIFFERENTLY.

SO IN TERMS OF THE SCORE, I KNOW IT'S IT'S ARBITRARY IN SOME SENSE.

IT'S HARD TO SAY IF AN ORGANIZATION'S COME HERE TALKING ABOUT COLONY OF OF OF OF OF OVERGROWN COLONY OF OF RABBIT.

THAT COULD BE SO YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE AND YOU'RE GOING TO FIND PEOPLE THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT TO THEM.

I MEAN, SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST PUT A LITTLE HUMOR IN WHAT, WHAT MY POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE.

BUT I TRULY THINK WE THE SYSTEM IS WHAT IT IS.

THE PROCESS IS WHAT IT IS.

IT CAN BE QUESTIONABLE.

IT MAY NOT BE PERFECT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE OUR MEMBERS ARE AWARE OF OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BE MORE ENGAGED. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

MA'AM, I HAVE NO.

OH, YOU HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. HOW ARE.

AND I'M JUST THROWING THE IDEA OUT THERE.

HOW ARE WE LOOKING IN REGARDS TO SENDING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD TIME WISE, OR IS IT NOT SO I BELIEVE THAT I HAD SENT YOU A COPY OF THE RFP.

YES. AND THERE IS A TIMELINE SCHEDULE IN THE RFP BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, ONE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND A FINAL PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE HAVE TO ALSO BASED ON WHAT COUNCIL APPROVES, THAT'S WHAT KICK STARTS THE CLOCK FOR US TO GET THE ACTION PLAN TOGETHER, BRING THIS BACK FOR FINAL READING AND THEN SUBMIT THAT TO HUD.

BUT IF WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, PUSH FORWARD AND JUST GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO REEVALUATE, THEN THE CLOCK DOESN'T START.

OR IS THAT AM I MISINTERPRETING? I'M SORRY. SO THE CDAB BOARD IS A RECOMMENDING BOARD.

THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY MADE TO COUNCIL.

SO. WE WOULD BE HOPING THAT COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE KDAB BOARD SO THAT WE CAN START THAT CLOCK, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD, OKAY.

AND WE HAVE TO GET OUR ACTION PLAN TOGETHER, PUT IT OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN SUBMIT THAT TO HUD.

OKAY, THEN THEN I'M GOOD MAYOR.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THAT FUTURE OF THE KDAB DOESN'T HAVE PRESENTATIONS UNLESS YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THAT WAY THEY CAN REALLY FOCUS ON THE MATERIAL AND NOT WHAT'S JUST BEING SAID THAT NIGHT.

SO THAT'S ALL.

BUT I'M GOOD TO MOVE FORWARD, SIR.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. AND I THINK THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT BOARD HAS DULY NOTED THAT I'M NOT THE CHAIRMAN, I'M A MEMBER, BUT MEMBER.

BUT BUT EDDIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M GOING TO OPEN THE DIALOG UP FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU'VE ALREADY SPOKEN, MA'AM.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? JUST FOR THE WOMEN WHO SPOKE.

MISS EBY, OUR STAFF IS GREAT.

PLEASE KEEP IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

AND WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR.

AND I'M ENCOURAGED BY WHAT I SAW YOUR APPLICATION AND TO THE POINT WE GET WE AS COUNCIL UP HERE GET, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMARY OF EACH.

BUT DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, YOU KNOW HOW LONG EACH ONE OF THOSE PACKETS IS.

BUT I WILL ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY WITH US, MA'AM.

AND, YOU KNOW, STAY IN CONTACT WITH STAFF BECAUSE WE DO HOLD THESE EVERY YEAR.

SO. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NOTHING ELSE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSE PASSES 3 TO 1.

THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA]

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I. MR. BATTEN. I GUESS THAT.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

OKAY. BECAUSE I WAS LOOKING AT THIS.

IT REALLY AGGRAVATED, AGGRAVATED ME WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MAP AND THE DRAWINGS OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE NEW ROADS, WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS IN AND WHERE THE BRIDGE IS GOING TO BE LOCATED.

AND THE FACT THAT THEY'RE TAKING THE MONEY OUT OF 32908.

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PARKS AND RECREATIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT'S LOCATED IN 32907.

AND I'VE ADDRESSED THIS BEFORE AND THEY SAID, WELL, WE'VE HAD OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE ALONG THE MALABAR ROAD WE'VE USED ANOTHER NEXUS AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR MIXING IT.

BUT AT LEAST ON THAT ASPECT, WHEN YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES, EVERYBODY DROVE ON THE ROAD.

THIS IS A PARK THAT 100% OF IT IS LOCATED IN THREE, TWO, NINE, ZERO SEVEN, AND 0% OF IT IS COMING OUT OF 32908 LOCATION.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO USE 50% OF THE IMPACT FEE FROM 32908 AND PUT IT IN 32907.

SO I ADDRESS MY CONCERN WITH THIS ONE MORE TIME THAT THEY'RE USING THE IMPACT FEE FROM ONE LOCATION AND USING IT IN ANOTHER.

THANK YOU MAYOR. AS WE'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, IMPACT FEES HAVE TO HAVE A RATIONAL NEXUS REGARDING THE BENEFIT AREA THAT THEY ARE APPLYING TO.

AND IN THE CASE OF THE PARK, IT IS THOUGHT TO PROVIDE A SPECIAL BENEFIT BASED ON PROXIMITY AND ACCESS.

EASE OF USE TO BOTH RESIDENTS IN THREE TWO, 908 AND 32907 BECAUSE OF THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE PARK.

SO THIS HAS BEEN VETTED THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE THE RECOMMENDATION ON THE USE OF THE FUNDS.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? I NEED A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.

$150,000 FOR SULFURIC ACID.

GENERATES A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR ME.

FIRST OFF, HOW MANY GALLONS OF SULFURIC ACID ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE SECOND ONE IS THIS SULFURIC ACID GOING TO BE USED IN THE POTABLE WATER TREATMENT PORTION OF OUR WATER, OR IS IT GOING TO BE USED IN THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT OR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT.

SO BECAUSE IT'S CAN BE USED IN BOTH, I WANTED TO KNOW HOW THAT BREAKDOWN WAS.

AND THE REASON I ASKED THAT QUESTION IS BECAUSE OF THE ACIDIC.

OF THE WATER THAT WE'RE PUMPING DOWN OUR DEEP WELL INJECTIONS, THAT HAS A HIGH ACIDIC CONTENT, SO HIGH THAT IT CANNOT BE USED ON THE SURFACE.

ARE WE PART OF THE CONTRIBUTING PROBLEM THAT MAKES IT SO WE CAN'T USE THAT RECLAIMED WATER? SO THERE WE GO.

HOW MANY GALLONS IS IT FOR POTABLE WATER WASTEWATER? AND IS IT PART OF THIS PROBLEM WHEN THE AQUIFER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

THIS IS NOT RELATED TO WASTEWATER.

THIS IS ONLY RELATED TO POTABLE WATER.

SO THE INCREASE IN EXPENDITURES IS DUE TO BASICALLY CREATING MORE WATER AT THE PLANT FOR PEOPLE TO CONSUME.

SO NOTHING TO DO WITH WASTEWATER, NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEEP, DEEP INJECTION.

WELL, I DID NOT OFFHAND HAVE THE GALLONS FOR YOU, BUT I CAN HAVE OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR GET THAT FOR YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I NEED A MOTION.

SO SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

THAT'S 6 OR 7 MISTER BARTON.

YES, I UNDERSTAND THE I'M SORRY.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WITH THE DEEP, WITH A WET, WELL PUMPING SYSTEM.

THE FIRST ONE IS THE FACT THAT WE TO MAKE A WET WELL SYSTEM WORK, WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY AERATE IT IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK THROUGH AND MAKE IT INTO A SLURRY SO THAT FIT THROUGH THE PUMP. BUT THEN THE VARIATION THAT HAS TO BE VENTED TO THE ATMOSPHERE.

SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WHEN WE DO THESE CONVERSIONS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THE ATMOSPHERE OF THE HUMAN WASTE BEING EXPELLED INTO THE AIR AROUND THE TANK? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WITH THAT WAS, WILL THE WET WELL PUMPING PROCESS INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE SEWAGE BEING PUMPED TO THE TO THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT? AND THE REASON I ASK THAT IS WE'RE WE'RE INCREASING THE POPULATION.

WE'RE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE ABILITY OF WHAT WE CAN HANDLE NOW.

SO IF IT'S GOING TO HELP SOLVE THAT PROBLEM IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY, IT'S GOOD.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT SUBMITTING MORE GASES TO THE ATMOSPHERE, TRYING TO MAKE IT SO WE CAN PUMP MORE DOWN THE PIPE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THOSE ARE QUESTIONS FOR OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, CHRIS LITTLE.

MR. LITTLE. GREAT TO SEE YOU, SIR.

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IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

SO THE FIRST THING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WET WELLS FOR A LIFT STATION, THE WET WELL MEANS THAT THE PUMPING EQUIPMENT WHEN IT'S A WET WELL, ONLY THE PUMPING EQUIPMENT IS CONTAINED INSIDE THE WET.

WELL, IT'S SUBMERGED IN THE FLUID.

THE TWO LIFT STATIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO CONVERT.

IT'S A DRY PIT, WET PIT CONFIGURATION.

SO THE SEWAGE IS IN THE WET WELL, AND THEN IT IS TRANSFERRED ACROSS INTO THE DRY PIT, THROUGH THE PUMPS AND THEN BROUGHT OUT INTO THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. SO THERE'S NO AERATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S JUST THE METHODOLOGY TO PUMP THE SEWAGE TO THE PLANTS.

AND THEN IN TERMS OF CAPACITY, WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ANY CAPACITY CHANGES BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

I BELIEVE THEY'RE FULLY BUILT OUT WHERE THESE TWO LIFT STATIONS ARE LOCATED.

SO WE'RE NOT INCREASING CAPACITY WHATSOEVER.

THANK YOU, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET.

AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

MR.. BATTEN. BILL.

SOUTHWEST. $345,000 FOR THE LOOPING AND EXTENSION OF A WATER MAIN.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, AND I UNDERSTAND THE FACT OF LOOPING.

IT KEEPS THE WATER CIRCULATING WITHIN THE PUMP.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE PART THAT CREATED HATE AND DISCONTENT WITH BILL BATTEN WAS THE FACT, WHEN I SAW THAT THEY'RE CONSIDERING THIS EXTENSION FOR THE TOWN OF MALABAR, OUR RESIDENTS AND THE TOWN OF MALABAR.

SO THAT GENERATES THE STATEMENT OF IS THE TOWN OF MALABAR PAYING ANY OF THIS COST? SINCE WE'RE PROVIDING WE'RE SPINNING AN EXPENSE TO GIVE THEM THE ABILITY TO USE OUR WATER.

AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION WITH THAT ONE IS, I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF STRANGE THAT WE'RE PLANNING AHEAD FOR THE FUTURE FOR THE TOWN OF MALABAR, BUT I'VE YET TO SEE ANY PLANS OF HOW WE'RE PLANNING AHEAD FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY FOR EXTENDING WATER SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS.

I SEE IT IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

YES. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN ESTABLISHING FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE IT NOW, HOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT PROBLEM SOLVED FOR THEM.

AND SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS WERE A CITY OF 63 YEARS OLD NOW, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE TOWN OF MALABAR TO GET THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY STILL DON'T HAVE IT FOR THEMSELVES.

I'LL DEFER TO CHRIS FOR THAT.

YES. THANK YOU. THANKS, CHRIS, FOR STAYING UP HERE.

NO PROBLEM. SO THE ISSUE HERE IS, IS THAT THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OWNS THE RIGHTS TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF MALABAR.

PRIMARILY, THIS PROJECT IS TO LOOP THE SYSTEM INITIALLY, ANY EXTENSIONS OFF OF THAT WHICH THERE IS DESIRE TO DEVELOP THE TOWN OF MALABAR.

HOPEFULLY THEY DO DEVELOP AND THEN THEY EXTEND OFF OF THAT MAIN LINE.

BUT THE PRIMARY POINT OF THIS EXTENSION IS TO PROVIDE A LOOP UP AND AROUND US.

ONE CLOSE TO YELLOW DOG CAFE TO INCREASE OUR WATER QUALITY AND OUR PRESSURES IN THE SYSTEM.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

MR. BATTEN, BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS ONE WAS OVER A HALF $1 MILLION FOR A VACUUM TRUCK.

MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS THE SAME VACUUM TRUCK THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT? BECAUSE THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT WE HAD A BOOKKEEPING ERROR WHERE WE HAD TWO OF THEM LISTED, AND THEN I THOUGHT, OKAY, WELL, THAT ONE'S DONE.

WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ONE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.

AND THE CORRECTION WITHIN BOOKKEEPING WAS CORRECTED.

BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS ONLY LIKE 300,000.

YET I'M LOOKING AT THIS ONE AND IT'S A HALF $1 MILLION FOR THIS VACUUM TRUCK.

IS THIS THE ORIGINAL VACUUM TRUCK THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET WHEN WE FIRST PROPOSED THE BUDGET, OR IS IT A DIFFERENT VACUUM TRUCK? YOU KNOW, OR IS IT A NEW ONE, OR IS IT THE SAME ONE THAT WE'RE FINALLY JUST GETTING IT ONTO THE STREETS OF PALM BAY? SO I BELIEVE YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE PRIOR COUNCIL MEETING WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE STORM WATER FUNDED VAC TRUCK.

DIFFERENT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES ARE USED TO TAKE CARE OF TWO DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE BASICALLY SUCKING UP WITH A VAC TRUCK.

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SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT, BUT THE PRICE TAG IS VERY SIMILAR.

SO THE PRICE FOR THE OTHER ONE WAS IN A SIMILAR RANGE, 5 TO $600,000.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING FOR VAC TRUCKS, BOTH IN UTILITIES AND IN PUBLIC WORKS FOR STORMWATER.

THANK YOU.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN.

DO I DEFER TO MADAM SMITH OR RESOLUTION 2020 4-08, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, SUPPORTING HOUSE BILL THREE HB THREE PROTECTING CHILDREN FROM ONLINE EXPLOITATION, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

DEPUTY MAYOR CHABOT.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

MOST OF YOU WHO KNOW ME KNOW THAT I CARRY A COPY OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES IN MY BAG AT ALL TIMES.

SO HERE WE GO.

CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. NOW HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PART.

OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS, OR OF THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE AND TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS AND GRIEVANCE.

AND THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS I SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH UNDER HOUSE BILL THREE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT TIKTOK IS EXPLOITING WHAT THEY PRESENT OUT THERE, AND THEY'RE TAKING THE INFORMATION FROM YOU AND THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING STUFF WITH IT, AND IT'S A FOREIGN COUNTRY IDENTITY.

TIKTOK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.

IF I CAN ALSO SAY THE SAME THING THAT THEY'RE DOING.

I HAVE SEEN THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPEN ON FACEBOOK.

I HAVE SEEN THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPEN UNDER GOOGLE.

I HAVE SEEN THE EXACT THING HAPPEN UNDER US MEDIA THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS IS THE FACT THAT WHEN WE START TO SAYING, WELL, I CAN TAKE THE FREEDOMS FROM YOU AND I CAN TAKE THE FREEDOMS FROM YOU, BUT DON'T YOU DARE TAKE THE FREEDOMS FROM ME.

THAT'S WHERE I FEAR WE'RE STARTING TO OVERREACH.

AND THIS ONE IS JUST THE FREEDOM OF INTERNET ACTIVITY.

BUT REMEMBER, THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT GRANTS US THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH ALSO ENSURES OUR FREEDOM OF RELIGION ALSO ENSURES OUR FREEDOM OF PETITION.

I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS LITTLE BIT OUT.

REMEMBER, YOU START NIBBLING ON THAT ON THAT ITEM.

EVENTUALLY. IT'S NO LONGER THERE.

HOW DO YOU GET RID OF AN ELEPHANT? ONE BITE AT A TIME.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU START IMPEDING ON THE FREEDOMS. REMEMBER THE CONSTITUTION, UNITED STATES FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

YOU TAKE THAT AWAY.

YOU WON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THEREAFTER.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YEAH, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ITEM AND I APPRECIATE I'VE SPOKEN TO BILL ABOUT IT TOO, SO I MISSED THE BATTING ABOUT IT AND I APPRECIATE IT.

AND BUT I THINK WE ALL, AS FROM THE GLOBAL LEVEL DOWN TO THE LOCAL LEVEL, SEE KIND OF WHAT SOCIAL MEDIA AND VIDEO GAMES HAVE DONE TO OUR FUTURE POPULATION, OUR YOUTH, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT.

AND I'M SEEING IT EVEN IN MY PROFESSIONAL AND MY PROFESSION WITH PERSONAL TRAINING.

A LOT OF THESE KIDS HAVE TERRIBLE POSTURE AND JOINT HIP ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE USED TO LEANING OVER LIKE THIS.

IF YOU ALL JUST GO AROUND SCHOOLS AND JUST WATCH, LOOK AT THE POSTURE OF A LOT OF THE KIDS, THEY'RE ALL HUNCHED OVER AND I'M LIKE, THE FIRST FEW SESSIONS OF TRAINING IS ME TRYING TO FIX THEIR POSTURE.

BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THESE ISSUES, SOME OF THE ISSUES I DIDN'T HAVE WITH TRAINING TEN YEARS AGO WITH THAT GENERATION OF KIDS, BUT I'M SEEING IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S ITS PURPOSE. I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME, BUT IT'S LIKE IT'S PURPOSELY ORCHESTRATED TO DIMINISH AND WEAKEN OUR FUTURE AND OUR YOUTH.

AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE IT AS.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO SAY HOUSE BILL THREE IS PERFECT.

I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GET STARTED ON CONGRESS WITH TIKTOK.

BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE? GOOD FOR THE GANDER.

BECAUSE WE KNOW FACEBOOK'S TAKING OUR INFORMATION.

Y'ALL TALK ABOUT CONVERSATIONS AND THEY POP UP ON YOUR NEWS FEED.

SO WE'RE NOW GOING TO ACT LIKE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

BUT ALL THIS BILL REALLY DOES IS, YOU KNOW, FOR ACCOUNTS FOR 14 AND YOUNGER THEY'LL BE WIPED OUT, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO GET CONSENT FROM THE PARENT TO OPEN THE ACCOUNT, WHICH I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE APPROACH.

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THAT'S WHY THE GOVERNOR VETOED THE FIRST BILL, HOUSE BILL ONE, BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T SET PARAMETERS BY PHIL.

THIS WILL HOLD IN COURT BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE HEARD THE FIRST AMENDMENT ARGUMENT ON THIS, BUT BEING THAT PARENTS ARE STILL IN CONTROL, BUT THERE'LL JUST BE MORE MINDFUL OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITHIN THEIR HOUSEHOLD.

I THINK THIS GIVES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHOW AS A CITY WHERE WE STAND AND WHERE WE STAND WITH EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT, WHERE WE STAND FOR JOB ATTAINMENT, SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE JOBS FOR MIDWEST DENTAL RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING, HEY, WE WANT TO NOT THAT WE WANT TO ALIENATE OUR YOUTH FROM SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE REENGAGING THEM WITH TRADES AND DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES OR ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND NOT JUST CLOUDING OR OPENING TWO TOO MANY TABS UP HERE ON THINGS THAT CAN DISTRACT FROM THEM TRULY TAPPING INTO THEIR POTENTIAL.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO ACT LIKE THIS BILL IS PERFECT, MAYOR, BUT I SEE THE INTENT AND I AND I'M GOING TO BE WATCHING IT AND MONITORING TO MYSELF, BUT I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. BUT AND ULTIMATELY WE DON'T DECIDE ON THAT BILL.

RIGHT. SO I'M, I'M CURIOUS AS TO YOUR INTENTIONS TO HAVE OUR SUPPORT REGARDING SO THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNS IT.

YEAH. SO. RIGHT.

WHAT IS YOUR. YEAH. RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW IT'S I'M WAITING FOR THE GOVERNOR TO, TO SIGN.

BUT THIS BILL'S HAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT ON THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE WHICH IS VERY UNCOMMON.

AND SO I THINK EVERYBODY'S SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE.

AND I JUST AS A CITY, I KNOW WE MAKE REQUESTS FOR THIS AND REQUEST FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW LIKE, HEY, WE SUPPORT OUR YOUTH, WE SUPPORT, AND WE SEE THE INTENT THAT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO MAKE.

AND SO WHEN WE DON'T SUPPORT SOMETHING, WE CAN WE CAN LET IT BE KNOWN JUST AS MUCH.

SO. SO ULTIMATELY, YOUR YOUR GOAL IS FOR US TO SEND A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR AND SAY, HEY, WE SUPPORT THIS BILL AND YOU WANT TO LIST WHY WE SUPPORT IT. YES, SIR. OKAY.

IS THAT IS THAT CLEAR, MADAM? SHERMAN. OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? THAT'S ALL GOOD, DEPUTY MAYOR.

OKAY. I THINK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON DID A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING IT.

I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY CAN CANNOT ARGUE THE FACT THAT WE NEED WE NEED TO MONITOR WHAT OUR KIDS ARE DOING.

I KNOW I HAVE A YOUNG LADY.

SHE DOESN'T ALWAYS LIKE IT, BUT MY WIFE HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE SOCIAL MEDIA AT ANY GIVEN TIME.

ANY TIME.

FULL DISCLOSURE, SHE SHE HAVE PASSWORD TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

SO AND ROUTINELY SHE GOES THROUGH THEM.

SO I THINK THAT THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT.

SO CERTAINLY I WOULD BE.

YEAH. MY ISSUE IS AND YOU MENTIONED REGARDING TIKTOK AND, AND, YOU KNOW, CONGRESS STANCE ON THAT.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THIS.

I, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

YOU WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT TOWARDS THIS BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT WITHIN THE STATE.

SO I'LL, I'LL SUPPORT THIS AS WELL.

AYE, AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 20.

NUMBER 22.

OH 20. NUMBER 20.

AHEAD OF MYSELF. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, $4,360.

I UNDERSTAND THIS WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

AND SO WE CAN WATCH THESE MEETINGS ON FACEBOOK AND WATCH THEM ON YOUTUBE AT THE SAME TIME, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT I HAD THE REQUEST BECAUSE PREVIOUSLY I ASKED WHEN I WAS WATCHING FROM THE COMPANY THAT WAS DOING OUR VIDEO RECORDING WHERE I COULD ACCESS.

WHEN WE GO BACK TO REVIEW, WE CLICK ON ON IN THE TITLE.

IT WOULD GIVE A BREAKDOWN.

INSTEAD OF HAVING LIKE ON THIS ONE, I'LL HAVE TO SCAN THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA TO FIND ONE TOPIC, SAY ON TOPIC NUMBER 22.

I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOUR RESPONSES WERE.

I'LL HAVE TO SCREEN THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA PACKET TO FIND IT WHERE IT USED TO BE.

YOU COULD GET A BREAKDOWN UNDER CONSENT AGENDA.

IT WOULD GIVE CONSENT NUMBER ONE, THREE, FIVE OR WHATEVER IT WAS UNDER THAT PRACTICE.

SO I'M REQUESTING SINCE WE'RE GOING WITH THE NEW VENDOR AND THEY'RE THE ONES GOING TO BE DOING THE RECORDING, IF WE CAN GET THAT BREAKDOWN WHERE IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE INFORMATION AFTER THE FACT, I KNOW THEY'RE DOING THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT'S AFTER THE FACT.

THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A NEW VENDOR, BUT I LIKE THAT IDEA OF BREAKING IT DOWN.

I THINK THIS IS AN ADDITION.

I BOUGHT THIS BOUGHT THIS SUB COUNCIL.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATED YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TO ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY.

AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE ON A YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S JUST THE TECHNOLOGY TODAY.

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SO WITH THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT HAVE THE AND ACTUALLY FOR BOTH.

RIGHT. IF WE'RE NOT DOING IT WITH FACEBOOK, THEN WHAT WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO, TO TO DO FOR YOUTUBE.

WE'LL HAVE STAFF LOOK AT THE CAPABILITIES FOR BOTH.

ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MA'AM I NEED A MOTION.

SECOND, SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 22.

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BATTEN, BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET ON THIS ONE, I NOTICED THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WAS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COST WAS WAS GOING TO BE AROUND $22,000, IF I'M CORRECT, AND I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHY THEY WERE CONSIDERING NOT IMPOSING THIS.

BUT THEN I'VE TALKED WITH SOME INDIVIDUALS FROM GRACE CHURCH AND THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, IT'S ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED BUILDING, SO IT'S NOT A NEW BUILDING.

BUT YET WHEN I LOOK AT THE PACKET, IT SHOWS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO INSTALL A NEW HALL, THEY'RE TRYING TO UPGRADE THE KITCHEN, AND THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 6000FT². SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE SAME WAY I AM JUST LIKE I'M AGAINST TAX ABATEMENT AND FOR INDIVIDUALS.

AND YOU SAW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

WE LOST $56,000 MAYBE I KNOW IT'S STILL GOT TO COME BACK FOR ACTION, BUT NOW I VOICED MY OPINION ON THAT ONE.

I CALL THAT PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT WHEN YOU DON'T WHEN YOU TAKE WHEN YOU DON'T MAKE EVERYBODY PAY AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PAY, THAT'S PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

SO I LOOKING AT THIS ONE AND I SEE IT, IT'S IT'S AN UPGRADE IN THE BUILDING JUST LIKE THE COMPANY WE JUST LOOKED AT.

THAT WAS AN UPGRADE IN THEIR BUILDING.

WELL THEY FAILED TO MEET THEIR COMMITMENTS.

SO I AM STANDING FIRM TO MY STATEMENT IS I DON'T LIKE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT WHEN IT COMES TO THE SOLID.

IF I WANT TO UPGRADE MY HOUSE, THE TAX ABATEMENT, I WANT TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE.

I STILL HAVE TO PAY.

SO I THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A CHURCH DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. I WANTED TO ASK.

THESE ARE IMPACT FEES.

YES, SIR. TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES.

CORRECT. AND WHAT ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS WILL AN EXISTING BUILDING HAVE? BASED ON THEM EXPANDING WHAT? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THEY'RE THEY'RE HAVING THEY'RE BUILDING A HALL FOR THEIR OWN CONGREGATION.

THEIR OWN CONGREGANTS.

RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT INVITING OTHERS TO HAVE A CONCERT OR CREATE ANY TRANSPORTATION IMPACTS.

SO WHAT WE WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, AND OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO TALK THROUGH HEY, PASTOR DAVE THE THE CHURCH IS BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL 6000 SQUARE FOOT FELLOWSHIP HALL WITH A KITCHEN.

STAFF LOOKED AT IT FROM A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU'D HAVE TO PAY ABOUT, IN THIS CASE, ABOUT $22,000 IN IMPACT FEES FOR A STRUCTURE OF THIS SIZE. THE ASSESSMENT BASED ON THE CURRENT PROPOSED USE BY THE CHURCH IS THAT IT'S FOR THE EXISTING MEMBERSHIP OF THE CHURCH.

AND SO THE THE REVIEW OF THAT LED TO THIS AGREEMENT, WHICH IS A DEFERRAL OF IMPACT FEES.

SO BASED ON THE CURRENT 160 MEMBER CONGREGATION AND THE CHURCH'S POSITION THAT THE FELLOWSHIP HALL IS FOR THE EXISTING MEMBERSHIP, THE CITY ENGINEER LOOKED AT IT AND DETERMINED THAT YOU COULD BE IN A POSITION WHERE YOU SAY.

RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PROPERTY.

THERE'S NO NEW TRANSPORTATION IMPACT, SO THEREFORE YOU COULD DEFER THE PAYMENT OF IMPACT FEES.

WHAT THAT DEFERRAL MEANS IS THERE'S LANGUAGE IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN TALK THROUGH, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT SAYS IF THERE'S EVER A SALE OR TRANSFER CHANGE TO THE PROPERTY THAT CHANGES THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.

THAT LEADS TO AN ADDITIONAL IMPACT TO OUR, OUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM, THAT THOSE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE DEFERRED WOULD AT THAT TIME BE DUE TO BE PAID. AND ACTUALLY IN CONVERSATION, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

SO DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO TONIGHT THERE MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE WE WOULD WANT TO NEGOTIATE THAT RELATES TO THE LANGUAGE IN THE AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW IS ONLY TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE SALE OR TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S NOT CLEAR LANGUAGE ABOUT ANY KIND OF CHANGE.

IF THE CURRENT OWNERSHIP DECIDED TO BEGIN TO LEASE THAT PROPERTY OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT ACTUALLY EXPLICIT.

SO IF YOU WOULD WANT US TO NEGOTIATE THAT FURTHER, WE COULD.

SO IF THAT USE CHANGED AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, A SALE OR TRANSFER CHANGE THAT.

IN EITHER CASE THE TIFF WOULD BE DUE AT THAT TIME.

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WHY DON'T WE GET THE INTENT? THE APPLICANTS HERE GO.

GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU.

DAVID CANNON, PASTOR OF GRACE BIBLE CHURCH.

WE'RE AS OLD AS THE CITY.

AND OUR FIRST BUILDING WAS ON PORT MALABAR ACROSS FROM VETERANS PARK.

AND THAT WAS EXPANDED IN 2004.

WE MOVED TO BAYSIDE LAKES AND OUR CURRENT BUILDING.

WE HAD A LITTLE ADDITION ON THE BACK OF THAT.

AND WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE PARKING LOT.

WE'RE NOT EXPANDING THE CHAPEL, WHICH IS THE BASIS FOR THE ATTENDANCE.

SO NOTHING WE'RE DOING IS TO EXPAND TRAFFIC ON BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.

IT'S SIMPLY TO SERVICE THE CONGREGATION THAT WE HAVE.

MOST OF IT IS A LARGE HALL THAT WILL ALLOW US TO BRING OUR YOUTH IN FROM THE HOT, WET SUMMERS.

WE HAVE A WONDERFUL KIDS BIBLE CLUB THAT WE NEED A PLACE FOR THEM TO MEET AND PLAY THEIR GAMES AND LEARN THEIR THEIR LESSONS.

WE WE HAVE NO FELLOWSHIP HALL AS FAR AS HAVING DINNERS.

WE'VE WE'VE MET OUT IN A SCREEN ROOM AND, AND SOMETIMES THE WEATHER'S INCLEMENT FOR THAT.

SO THESE ARE THESE THIS THE PURPOSE OF THIS BUILDING IS, IS SIMPLY TO SERVICE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO COME TO OUR CHURCH.

NOW, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY ARRANGEMENTS TO INCREASE THE SEATING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CHAPEL.

AND SO THAT BEING SAID, WE WE THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS, THAT WE ARE NOT AGAINST IMPACT FEES AT ALL.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I HOPE YOU ALL BE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE.

BUT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE IMPACTING.

SO WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE.

WE'RE NOT A BIG CONGREGATION.

WE'RE CONSERVATIVELY WE'RE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE.

WE'RE TRYING TO PAY AS WE GO HERE.

AND $22,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY.

AND SO WE ASKED, NOT THAT YOU DEFER THIS, BUT THIS APPLICATION WAS MADE BACK IN OCTOBER, THE FIRST CONTRACT. WE WE HAVE A BUILDING ON OUR PROPERTY THAT'S UNDER A STEEL BUILDING THAT IS UNDER WRAPS SITTING OUTSIDE.

WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR TO DIG FOOTERS AND DO ALL THE WAITING ON A PERMIT FROM THE CITY.

AND SO I, I PLEAD WITH YOU TO AGREE WITH US AND LET US GET OUR PERMIT.

WE REALLY NEED TO GET GOING.

EXPENSES ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY HIGH NOW.

AND AND THAT BUILDING WOULD REALLY BE A BLESSING TO OUR CONGREGATION.

AND SO, PASTOR, JUST JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR YOU'RE WANTING TO TAKE YOUR CONGREGATION OUT OF THE ELEMENTS RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE USING OUTSIDE.

YOU'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FELLOWSHIP HALL CURRENTLY? NO, SIR. SO WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IS BUILD A MULTI-PURPOSE.

YES BUILDING, IF YOU WILL, OF 6000FT² SO THAT YOU COULD HOUSE THE CURRENT YOUTH THAT YOU HAVE.

YOU COULD HOUSE.

ARE YOU AND HAVE FELLOWSHIP, ESPECIALLY AFTER A SERVICE? EASTER SERVICE? YES.

YOU COULD BREAK BREAD WITH THE WITH THE MAYOR.

WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY TEEN GROUP.

AND AND THIS WOULD BE SUCH A BLESSING TO THEM.

WE HAVE A VERY HEALTHY CHILDREN'S PROGRAM, AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT BLESSING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE FIRST CENTURY CHURCHES, WHEN THEY MEET TOGETHER, THEY EAT TOGETHER.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN REALLY HINDERED IN THAT.

I UNDERSTAND, PASTOR.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO IMPACT TRANSPORTATION WISE, THE YOU PLAN ON HAVING THAT FELLOWSHIP HALL, RIGHT? WHEN AFTER SERVICE, YOU'LL HAVE CHOW AND THEN.

SO NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE.

YOUR YOUTH SERVICES ARE USUALLY WEDNESDAY NIGHTS OR SUNDAY AFTERNOONS.

SUNDAY AFTERNOONS. YES, SIR.

SO IT'S JUST THE SAME.

TRAFFIC'S GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH.

SO I GET YOUR POINT, SIR.

I WILL SAY.

YEAH, GO AHEAD. IF I COULD SAY WE'RE WE'RE INSPECTED ANNUALLY BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY HOLD US TO OUR ATTENDANCE, SEATING AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

IF WE IF WE DO ANY EXPANSION OF THE CHAPEL, WE'LL HAVE TO COME TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO DO THAT KIND OF THING.

AND THEN IF OUR ATTENDANCE AND OUR PARKING AND THOSE THINGS ARE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THAT, WELL, THEN THAT WOULD BE THE TIME TO TO PAY AN IMPACT FEE. BUT WE WE SAY NOW WE'RE NOT MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE BOULEVARD.

WE'RE JUST ASKING TO PUT UP A BUILDING THAT WILL SERVICE THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.

DO YOU WE ARE PUTTING UP WE ARE ADDING A HALF A DOZEN PARKING SPACES THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE NEW BUILDING, BUT THOSE ARE FOR

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WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HANDICAPPED PARKING LOTS, SO THIS WILL BE HANDICAPPED NEAR THE DOOR.

SO OUR ELDERLY PEOPLE OR THOSE WHO ARE HANDICAPPED WILL HAVE EASIER ACCESS.

IT'S NOT TO INCREASE THE DO YOU? YOUR INTENTIONS ARE NOT TO RENT THIS HALL OUT OR IS WE? WE DO NOT RENT OUR FACILITY.

WE HAVE MADE A DECISION BASED ON THINGS.

WE DO NOT RENT OUR FACILITY TO THE PUBLIC, TO THE PUBLIC.

MEMBERSHIP CAN COME IN AND HAVE A GATHERING, CORRECT? YES. OKAY.

OKAY. NOW I WANTED JUST TO TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, THAT YOUR INTENTIONS USUALLY CHURCHES DON'T DO THAT.

NO. WE HAVE A POLICY.

WE DO NOT RENT OUR BUILDING.

OKAY. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

NO, NOT REALLY OF A QUESTION, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR ELABORATION.

PASTOR. BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WAS ONE NOT REALLY FEELING THIS ONE.

YEAH, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR ELABORATION THAT IT'S TO SERVE THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CURRENT POPULATION, NOT WE'RE NOT AGAINST IMPACT FEES ARE SO IMPORTANT, BUT BUT THIS ONE HAS A SPIRIT IN THEM AND A MEANING IT'S TO WHEN TRAFFIC IS INCREASED ON THE ROADS, THEN THOSE WHO CAUSED THAT SHOULD SHARE THE BURDEN OF IT.

YEAH. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE AT THIS POINT ARE NOT INCREASING THE LOAD ON THE BOULEVARD AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, BECAUSE I DID SPEAK TO MISS SHERMAN ABOUT IT ON POTENTIALLY ADDITIONAL PARAMETERS, BECAUSE JUST AS COUNCILS CHANGE, SOMETIMES CHURCH ADMINISTRATION CHANGES.

AND I TRULY BELIEVE YOUR INTENTS ARE I SEE YOU, I BELIEVE YOUR INTENT.

BUT SAY, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD SOMEBODY ELSE MAY HAVE DIFFERENT INTENTIONS.

WE SEE THE ISSUES WE'RE HAVING WITH PINEAPPLE COVE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE HAND THAT WE WANT.

SO HERE WE ARE, WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY, WHERE WE HAVE THE HAND THAT WE WANT.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE ARE APPROPRIATE PARAMETERS WE CAN PLACE JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.

THEN I'M, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THAT.

WELL, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.

THE THE PROBLEM WE DO HAVE IS THAT THIS PROCESS ON THIS ISSUE STARTED LAST OCTOBER, AND AND THIS IS REALLY CAUSING US SOME GRIEF HERE WITH STARTING OUR PROJECT.

I MEAN, WE'RE THINGS ARE PILING UP AND WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT A PERMIT.

AND THIS HAS BEEN HOLDING UP THE PERMIT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, ANY QUESTIONS SIR? NO, NO. NO QUESTION, I THANK YOU.

THANK THE PASTOR FOR COMING.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WOULD ECHO THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S IT'S ONE I'LL CERTAINLY ON WASN'T QUITE SURE, BUT I DO CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE ELABORATION TO WHERE YOU MAKE IT CLEAR TO US AS TO THE INTENT AND CERTAINLY THE IMPACT THAT WOULD HAVE ON YOUR CONGREGATION AND THE YOUTH.

IT'S NOT A SEPARATE 6000, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WITH A KITCHEN AND SO ON.

AND SO THAT MADE IT CLEAR TO ME I CAN CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'RE ACTUALLY MOVING THE OLD KITCHEN.

SO WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT A NEW NOT ANOTHER KITCHEN.

WE'RE JUST MOVING THE ONE WE HAVE.

SO IT'LL SERVICE THE NEW BUILDING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PASTOR DAVE.

SO MOVED. SECOND, SECOND.

YOU GOT? I GOT MOST OF MY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 24.

MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AFTER WATCHING.

AFTER WATCHING THE PRESENTATION.

I'VE SEEN THAT SAME PRESENTATION TWICE NOW.

IT KIND OF MAKES SENSE WHY YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE TO GO AFTER THIS GRANT, BUT I HAVE A REQUEST WITH IT.

IF WE'RE GOING AFTER THE GRANT, $2 MILLION, THAT'S A NOTICEABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR OUR ROAD REMEDIATION.

AND IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WHAT I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE COUNCIL DO IS SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO GET $2 MILLION GRANT.

THAT MEANS I CAN STOP THE PROGRAM THAT I ALREADY HAVE.

THAT'S WHAT MY FEAR IS BECAUSE YOU SAY, OH, LOOK, I'VE GOT IT HERE.

I DON'T HAVE TO I DON'T HAVE TO USE THIS RESOURCE THAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAVE FOR FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.

SO DON'T TAKE AWAY OUR PLAN OF ACTION JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS OFFERING SOMETHING GREEN IN YOUR FACE.

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OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UNDERSTOOD. MADAM SHERMAN, YOU WANT TO.

I HAVE NO INTENTION OF CHANGING MY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL.

WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW THE FUND USING OUR STRATEGIES.

AS DISCUSSED, THIS IS BONUS ON TOP OF IF WE RECEIVE IT.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

SO MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ITEM NUMBER 25, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE I PULL A LOT OF THESE ITEMS, BUT THE ONLY WAY I CAN GET PEOPLE TO ADDRESS THEM IS TO PARTAKE IN THE CONVERSATION.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I DO.

AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

RIGHT. IN THIS CASE, IT'S $260,000 FOR TWO ADDITIONAL LINE LOCATOR TECHNICIANS.

WELL, BILL BATTEN WENT THROUGH BEING THE IDIOT THAT HE IS, AND I LOOKED UP WHAT THE NATIONAL MEAN FOR A LINE TECHNICIAN.

AND THE MEDIAN IS $48,000.

SO WE'RE REQUESTING THREE YEARS, THREE TIMES THAT FOR THIS.

IF THE MEDIAN IS 48,000 AND WE'RE REQUESTING 260,000 OR WE'RE JUST OVEREXTENDING, EITHER WE'RE OFFERING THESE THESE TWO LINE TECHNICIANS A HECK OF A LOT MORE MONEY THAN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THEIR SAME FIELD IS MAKING, OR THERE WAS A HIGH ESTIMATE THAT SOMEBODY WANTED TO CHALLENGE ON, AND I'M NOT SURE WHICH WAY IT IS, BUT IF I SEE A BIG DISCREPANCY, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TRY TO CALL IT OUT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. A LARGE PORTION OF THE AMOUNT THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS FOR THE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT FOR THE TWO NEW POSITIONS.

THE ANNUAL COST FOR SALARIES PLUS BENEFITS FOR EACH POSITION IS A LITTLE OVER $61,000.

SO THE BULK OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS RELATED TO THE OTHER.

THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE OR OLD BUSINESS? UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

NEW ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS]

MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT BENJAMIN KISSKILL TO THE POLICE AND FIRE FIGHTER PENSION PLAN.

BOARD OF TRUSTEES.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION TO BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNT OR MAYOR MEDINA.