Apr 04, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

[CALL TO ORDER:]

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SO GOOD EVENING.

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2024-07 TO ORDER.

THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR BEAU DE FRANCOIS OF TRINITY CHURCH, AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY OUR DEPUTY MAYOR DONNY FELIX.

PASS THE BOW. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. FATHER, WOULD YOU JUST COME BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON? AND WE THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER DAY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN FELLOWSHIP WITH YOU.

WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST, WHO HAS MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO YOU, YOUR GRACE, WHICH YOU PROVIDE.

YOUR FAITHFULNESS TOWARD US IS UNENDING.

AND I JUST PRAY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT, CITY OFFICIALS, OUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE THANK YOU FOR THEM.

WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

WE THANK YOU FOR THEIR LIVES AND WE JUST PRAY FOR THEM RIGHT NOW.

JUST PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM.

WE PRAY FOR THE LEADING AND THE GUIDING OF YOUR SPIRIT TO BE UPON THEM.

AND MAY THE WORD OF GOD CONTINUE TO BE A LIGHT TO THEM, OPENING UP THE PATH BEFORE THEM AS THEY LEAD.

SERVE. MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO.

LIVE IN A COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT IS CIVIL, PEACEFUL AND HONORING TO YOU.

WE JUST ASK RIGHT NOW, LORD, FOR YOUR WISDOM MORE THAN ANYTHING, TO BE UPON THEM AS THEY CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES.

WE PRAY FOR THIS AND WE THANK YOU.

IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.

AMEN. PLEASE FACE THE FLAG.

HOORAH! WE ARE NOW ON ROLL CALL.

MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

MISS SHERMAN HERE.

MISS SMITH HERE.

THANK YOU.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

THANK YOU. MAYOR, FOR VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

REPRESENTS STUDENT MEMBER POSITION THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT ADULT MEMBER POSITION.

TWO VACANCIES ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE.

EXECUTIVE BOARD.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS MAY CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT PALM BAY.

FLORIDA.ORG OR (321) 952-3400.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE ON THE SCRIPT AND A COUPLE TO ADD TO THAT.

FIRST, A PROCLAMATION FOR WATER CONSERVATION MONTH HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM THREE UNDER PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE SOLUTIONS SERVICES TASK ORDER WAS ADDED TO ITEM FIVE UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM 17 UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, WAS INADVERTENTLY PLACED ON CONSENT AND STAFF IS REQUESTING TO CONSIDER THE ITEM WITH THE ACCOMPANYING ITEM ONE UNDER PRESENTATIONS. THE APPLICANT FOR ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS HAS REQUESTED THAT THE CASES BE CONTINUED TO THE MAY 2ND REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

THE REQUESTER FOR ITEM FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS HAS ASKED THAT THE ITEM BE CONSIDERED EARLIER IN THE MEETING AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND LASTLY, THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE CO-SPONSORSHIPS THAT ARE NEW BUSINESS ITEMS TWO AND THREE HAVE REQUESTED TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS UP IN THE AGENDA AS WELL.

AND IT WOULD BE COUNCIL'S DECISION, BUT YOU COULD YOU COULD CERTAINLY MOVE THEM IN FRONT OF PRESENTATIONS IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

SO I'LL LEAVE THAT TO COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

YEAH. I THINK COUNCIL, I THINK BEFORE THE PRESENTATIONS AND ACTUALLY, I THINK BEFORE EVEN PUBLIC HEARINGS WE SHOULD TAKE THOSE ITEMS, BUT I'LL NEED A MOTION, SO MOVE.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER SECOND.

GOT A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

SO SO JUST TO TO BE CLEAR, WE ARE MOVING NEW BUSINESS ITEMS TO BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SO AFTER.

AFTER PROCLAMATIONS.

JUST TO BE SPECIFIC.

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YEAH. NO, THERE'S THERE'S A FEW OF THEM.

IT WOULD BE TWO. YOU CAN ACTUALLY THE SCRIPT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING, I THINK.

OKAY. SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO MOVE ALL THREE NEW BUSINESS ITEMS, WHICH ARE ITEMS NUMBER TWO, THREE AND FOUR, YES.

YOU CAN MOVE ALL THOSE TOGETHER AS A GROUP.

YES. AND WE COULD DO THOSE IF YOU WANT, BEFORE PRESENTATIONS.

YES. PRESENTATION ON THE COMPOUND WILL BE A LITTLE BIT INVOLVED.

YES. BEFORE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'LL DO IT AFTER.

IT'LL ACTUALLY BE AFTER THE PROCLAMATIONS.

CORRECT. ALL RIGHT, CARRY ON.

MADAM SMITH.

NO REVISIONS.

THANK YOU. SO JUST ANYONE THAT WAS HERE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT.

WE HAVE MOVED THIS TO OUR SECOND COUNCIL MEETING THIS MONTH.

WE WILL NOT BE CONSIDERING THAT THIS EVENING AGAIN.

ITEMS, PUBLIC HEARING ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT, SIR.

I BELIEVE IT'S TO THE MAY 2ND COUNCIL MEETING, AS YOU WERE.

MAY 2ND COUNCIL MEETING.

MAY 2ND COUNCIL MEETING.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

GOTCHA. SO INITIALLY, I'M GOING TO CALL UP LOGAN LOOSE.

LOGAN. HOW ARE YOU, SIR? GOOD. HOW ARE YOU? ARE YOU GOING TO CALL ANYONE FROM YOUR TEAM? I SEE A FEW. YEAH.

TWO. THREE.

TWO. THREE. FOUR. OKAY.

YEAH. WELL, THANKS FOR COMING.

IT'S SUSTAINABILITY AWARENESS MONTH.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

I LOVE IT WHEN YOU GUYS WEIGH IN LIKE THAT.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY PARTICIPATES IN MANY ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND PARTICULARLY DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL.

THESE ACTIVITIES ARE FOCUSED ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND OUR DESIRE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUTURE WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS EARTH DAY FIRST HELD IN 1970, I THINK ACTUALLY EARTH DAY WAS WAY BACK WHEN GOD CREATED THE EARTH, RIGHT? BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT SOME OTHER TIME.

EARTH DAY FIRST HELD IN 1970, WILL BE RECOGNIZED THIS YEAR ON APRIL 22ND WITH THE SAME THEME PLANET VERSUS PLASTICS.

THE CITY RECOGNIZES WE ALL HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO CARE FOR AND PROTECT THE EARTH FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND WHEREAS EVERY YEAR THE CITY PARTICIPATES IN THE ANNUAL KEEP BREVARD BEAUTIFUL TRASH BASH EVENT, WITH THIS YEAR'S EVENT BEING HELD ON APRIL 6TH WITH THE SAME THEME, IT TAKES THE TEAM TO KEEP IT CLEAN.

THAT'S LIKE RAPPING, ISN'T IT? IT TAKES A TEAM TO KEEP IT CLEAN.

THE CITY WILL HOST.

CITY WILL HOST SIX DIFFERENT TRASH PICKUPS SITES.

WHEREAS EACH YEAR, THE CITY OF PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT CELEBRATES WATER CONSERVATION MONTH IN APRIL AND PROMOTES ACTIVITIES TO RAISE AWARENESS.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD IS PARTNERING WITH CITY STAFF TO HOST THE SECOND ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR ON APRIL 13TH FROM 5 P.M.

TO 8 P.M., IN WHICH THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO ATTEND.

I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

THERE WILL BE FOOD VENDORS, ECO VENDORS, FREE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS WITH PREREGISTRATION, SUSTAINABILITY DEMONSTRATIONS, A MOVIE AND MUCH MORE. NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WE CALL PALM BAY.

BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2024 AS SUSTAINABILITY AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE PALM BAY.

SECOND ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR EVENT AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK ON SATURDAY, APRIL 13TH, FROM NINE TO OR FROM 5 TO 8:08 P.M., AND TO SUPPORT EFFORTS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT AND PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY TO OUR CITY BOTH NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

IN WITNESS HEREOF, I SET MY RIGHT HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FOURTH DAY OF APRIL, 2024.

MISTER LOGAN LEWIS.

THE MIC IS YOURS, SON.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

IT'S A IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE SERVING IN THE CAPACITY OF CHAIR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

LOVE HAVING SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE.

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IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GO ONLINE AND SEE WHEN OUR MEETINGS ARE, CHECK OUT THE AGENDA.

HERE'S STUFF ABOUT THE SUSTAINABLE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR THAT WE HAVE UPCOMING.

IT'S IN PARTNER WITH UTILITIES WITH A MOVIE NIGHT.

SO IF YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU CAN BRING LEARN MORE ABOUT SUSTAINABLE EFFORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL AS WATCH A MOVIE IN THE PARK.

SO DEFINITELY COME AND JOIN US THERE.

WE'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF EVENTS.

A NATIVE GARDEN HERE ON CAMPUS.

IT'S WITH THE NEW BUILD.

IT'S KIND OF GOT MOVED AROUND.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FINISHING THAT OPPORTUNITY.

ALSO, SOME PLANTINGS AND THINGS ABOUT DIFFERENT WATER BASINS IN THE CITY, BUT JUST VERY A VERY ACTIVE BOARD.

SOME OF THE OTHER BOARDS I'M ON, WE DON'T GET OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH, BUT DO THINGS THAT FOCUS ON THE COMMUNITY AND HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER.

THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REALLY GETS INTO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE HAVING THOSE SUSTAINABLE EFFORTS AND MAKING THOSE COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY. AND I LOVE HAVING A CITY LIVING IN A CITY THAT HAS THAT COMMUNITY ATMOSPHERE A COUNCIL THAT PROMOTES IT AND MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE PROCLAMATION, LADIES.

IF Y'ALL WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, DID YOU WANT TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RAIN BARRELS? THE RAIN BARRELS? YEAH.

SO THE RAIN BARRELS WHAT GROUP IS WHO'S THE LEADER ON THAT? BREVARD COUNTY. BREVARD COUNTY.

NATURAL RESOURCES. SO THEY'RE COMING WITH RAIN BARRELS.

THEY ALWAYS GIVE THEM OUT.

I THINK THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN LIKE A RAFFLE TYPE SITUATION.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THE RAIN BARRELS IS YOU PUT THEM AT YOUR HOUSE WHENEVER IT RAINS, THE THE WATER THAT COMES OFF YOUR ROOF WILL GO TO THESE BARRELS UTILIZING THAT WATER TO WATER YOUR PLANTS, YOUR GARDEN, THAT KIND OF STUFF TO WHERE YOU CAN USE LESS WATER OUT OF YOUR TAP OR YOUR WELL, AND UTILIZE THE WATER THAT CAME FROM THE FROM THE SKY, GOD'S WATER, AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE THAT TO NOT USE THE RESOURCES OF CITY WATER AND THAT KIND OF STUFF MAKES IT A LITTLE CHEAPER ON YOU TO TO HAVE A FEW BLOOMS IN YOUR GARDEN THIS SEASON. SO COME AND JOIN THAT.

LEARN MORE ABOUT THE EFFECTS ON THE THE NATURAL SIDE OF IT, THE SUSTAINABLE EFFORT SIDE.

AND MAYBE YOU'LL GET TO TAKE A RAIN BARREL HOME WITH YOU.

SO I THINK WE HAVE 15 THIS YEAR.

I THINK WHAT IT IS.

SO REALLY GOOD EFFORTS GOING ON THERE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I DID WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.

THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT US.

IT'S ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COMING.

AND WE HAVE COMMUNITY PEOPLE COMING AND ASKING AND TELLING US AND GIVING US THE PATHWAY TO BE BETTER AT WHAT WE DO, WHICH IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN OUR CITIZENS AND OUR COUNCIL.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME REQUESTING ORDINANCE CHANGES ON TREES.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME FROM THE LOCHMERE COMMUNITY TALKING ABOUT THE GARDEN THAT IS THERE, THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.

WE'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE MASTER GARDENERS.

THEY COME. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO COME AND TALK ABOUT WE HAVE A PROGRAM EVERY TIME WE MEET ONCE A MONTH ON SOLAR ENERGY AND CHARGING AND ELECTRIC VEHICLES, YOU NAME IT, WE'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO IT.

SO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DO AS WELL.

USE US.

LET US SERVE BETTER.

THANK YOU MA'AM. WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY. LET'S GO. WHERE ARE YOU GOING? COME ON.

GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

CALCULATIONS. NEXT I'M GOING TO CALL UP EBBY'S BERALDI AND THE HOUSING TEAM.

EVVIE'S, GET YOUR TEAM UP HERE QUICKLY, QUICKLY! I SEE THE SAILORS LAUGHING IN THE AIR FORCE VETERAN ARE LAUGHING.

I THINK I JUST BROUGHT THEM BACK TO REMEMBRANCE.

COME ON UP, GUYS.

DON'T WORRY. I'M NOT GOING TO BUY.

YOU CAN COME OVER HERE.

OKAY. AS YOU WERE.

ITS NATIONAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MONTH.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

HUD IMPLEMENTED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM IN 1974 FOR THE PURPOSE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITH THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO ASSIST LOW AND MODERATE INCOME PERSONS.

AND WHEREAS THE CDBG PROGRAM HAS HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH PUBLIC SERVICES, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, PARKS

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I'M GOING TO PAUSE HERE FOR A SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR.

COME ON DOWN HERE.

YOU SIT ON THIS BOARD.

YES, SIR. YEAH. COME ON DOWN, DEPUTY MAYOR.

YOU'RE PART OF THIS TEAM AND, AND AND YOU DEVOTE A LOT OF TIME WITH THEM, SO I DIDN'T MEAN TO GIVE YOU AN ORDER, SIR.

IT'S. I MIGHT HAVE COME OUT THAT WAY, BUT, SIR, IT WAS NOT INTENDED THAT WAY.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED THE CAPACITY TO ADMINISTER AND CUSTOMIZE THE CDBG PROGRAM TO IDENTIFY, PRIORITIZE, AND TO IMPROVE AND RESOLVE PRESSING LOCAL ISSUES.

WHEREAS THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION HAS ANNOUNCED THE MONTH OF APRIL AS CDBG MONTH TO FURTHER HIGHLIGHT THE WORK THAT OCCURS WITH CDBG DOLLARS IN COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE.

AND WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS DEVELOPED A PARTNERSHIP WITH HUD FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF A CDBG PROGRAM AND RECOGNIZES THE EFFORTS AND MAINTAINING REPORTING, COMPLIANCE AND ANNUAL FUNDING FOR OUR CDBG PROGRAM.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE HUD AS AN OUTSTANDING PARTNER WITHIN OUR CDBG PROGRAM AND DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF APRIL 2024 AS NATIONAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN IN RECOGNIZING THE CDBG PROGRAM AND THE IMPORTANT ROLE IT PLAYS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITNESS HEREOF.

I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FOURTH DAY OF APRIL, 2024.

MISS EVVIE'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO WORK THIS OUT.

SIT DOWN THERE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK.

THANK YOU.

AND CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM.

THANK YOU SIR. I GOT IT, I GOT IT.

SO IT IS FITTING TO CELEBRATE THE CLUB'S 50TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY FOR THE MONTH OF APRIL WITH THE DEDICATED HOUSING TEAM.

IN THE LAST 2 TO 3 YEARS, THE TREMENDOUS EFFORT AND DEDICATION PUT FORTH BY THE HOUSING TEAM AND THE HOUSING STAFF HAS PROVEN IT CAN BE DONE.

ALTHOUGH NANCY'S NOT HERE, SHE HELPED PROVIDE A CLEAR PATH FOR GRANT COMPLIANCE WITH CDBG.

TOGETHER WITH SEPHY CHINGONA, ELENA ZARAZUA, JENNY LAWSON, CARMEN JOURNEY AND I AND WE WERE ALL DETERMINED TO PROVE IT CAN BE DONE.

IT CAN BE DONE IN THE HOUSING TEAM.

LOOKS FORWARD TO THE 51ST YEAR ANNIVERSARY NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU. OKAY, I THINK LET'S LET'S COME ON THIS SIDE IF WE CAN. OKAY.

DEPUTY MAYOR. GREAT.

NO! COME ON.

NO! ARE WE READY? YES. CONGRATULATIONS.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO ON. OTHER.

OKAY, BUT. YOU? YES, MA'AM.

SO OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION, I'M GOING TO CALL UP TOMMY MARINELLI.

RIGHT. IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THAT? OH, DID I NAIL IT OR WHAT? ALRIGHT. AND BROOKLYN DAWSON, COME ON UP.

AND THEN AND THEN AS WELL.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HANDLE THE OTHER PART.

YES. ALL RIGHT. CARRY ON.

SO GUESS WHAT FOLKS.

IT IS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

WHEREAS WATER'S OUR MOST VALUABLE NATURAL RESOURCE.

AND WHEREAS CLEAN, SAFE AND RELIABLE WATER RESOURCES AND SUPPLIES ARE VITAL TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S ECONOMY, OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR PEOPLE.

AND WHEREAS THE STATE OF FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICTS AND THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO INCREASE THE AWARENESS ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF

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AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAVE DESIGNATED APRIL TYPICALLY A DRY MONTH WHEN WATER DEMANDS ARE MOST ACUTE AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH TO EDUCATE CITIZENS ABOUT SAVING WATER RESOURCES.

AND WHEREAS EACH CITIZEN IN OUR CITY IS CALLED UPON TO HELP PROTECT OUR SOURCE WATERS FROM POLLUTION, TO PRACTICE WATER CONSERVATION, AND TO GET INVOLVED IN LOCAL WATER ISSUES BY GETTING TO KNOW THEIR WATER UTILITY.

EVERY BUSINESS, INDUSTRY, SCHOOL AND CITIZEN CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO CONSERVING WATER.

AND WHEREAS THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR ITS CITIZENS REGARDING WATER CONSERVATION HAS ALWAYS ENCOURAGED AND SUPPORTED WATER CONSERVATION THROUGH VARIOUS EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS AND SPECIAL EVENTS.

AND WHEREAS LEAK PREVENTION IS COMMONLY THOUGHT TO BE THE FIRST STEP IN CONSERVING WATER.

THE PALM BAY UTILITY DEPARTMENT WILL ENCOURAGE CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES TO FIX THEIR LEAKY SINKS.

AND ANYTHING THAT LEAKS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROWE MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM WATER CONSERVATION MONTH, APRIL 2024, AS WATER CONSERVATION MONTH AND CALL UPON ALL OUR CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES OF PALM BAY FOR THIS, THE 26TH YEAR OF WATER CONSERVATION MONTH, TO HELP PROTECT OUR MOST PRECIOUS RESOURCE BY PRACTICING WATER SAVING MEASURES, CHECKING FOR LEAKS, BECOMING MORE AWARE OF THE NEED TO SAVE WATER.

CONGRATULATIONS. NOW, BROOKLYN.

YES, SIR. WELL, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, AND HAPPY WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.

MY NAME IS BROOKLYN DAWSON, AND I'M THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR HERE WITH PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ON THE IMPORTANCE OF WATER.

AND I'M JOINED HERE TONIGHT BY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT INTERIM DIRECTOR TOMMY MARINELLI AND OUR NEW UTILITIES ENGINEER, DAN PEREZ.

MAIER MEDINA. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND OUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THIS VERY SIGNIFICANT MONTH.

LIVING IN PALM BAY AND BEING CONSTANTLY SURROUNDED BY LARGE BODIES OF WATER, IT'S EXTREMELY EASY FOR US TO FORGET THE VALUE OF CLEAN, FRESH DRINKING WATER AND THE AVAILABILITY OF IT WHEN WE TURN ON THE TAP.

EVERY YEAR, THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT CHALLENGES ITS COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO PRACTICE WATER CONSERVATION AS PART OF THEIR DAILY ROUTINE THROUGH SIMPLE TASKS SUCH AS CUTTING YOUR SHOWER TIMES IN HALF, TURNING OFF YOUR FAUCET WHILE YOU BRUSH YOUR TEETH, CHECKING YOUR TOILETS AND SINKS FOR LEAKS, LIMITING RECREATIONAL WATER USE FOR YOUR CHILDREN'S TOYS, AND BY FOLLOWING LAWN IRRIGATION RESTRICTIONS.

AVAILABLE TO YOU ON PBS.ORG.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THIS YEAR OUR DEPARTMENT IS CHALLENGING ITSELF TO CONSERVE WATER IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

NEW INTERNAL PROCEDURES ARE BEING SET IN PLACE TO LIMIT THE NEED FOR LARGE SCALE FLUSHING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS ARE BEING MADE THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO ENSURE MORE SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE UTILITY.

THIS MONTH, WE'RE OFFERING A VERY WIDE RANGE OF ENGAGEMENT AND EVENTS IN WHICH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES CAN PARTICIPATE IN.

STARTING APRIL 15TH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN PICK UP FREE WATER CONSERVATION KITS AT OUR CUSTOMER CARE OFFICE, WHICH IS LOCATED HERE AT CITY HALL.

WE'LL HAVE BOTH ADULT AND KIDDO FRIENDLY KITS AVAILABLE, AND THEY'RE FREE OF CHARGE.

IN COLLABORATION WITH PARKS AND RECREATION, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, AND THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, WE WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF THE PALM BAY SECOND ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, WHICH IS TAKING PLACE NEXT WEEKEND ON APRIL 13TH FROM 5 TO 8 P.M.

AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A FREE RAIN BARREL WORKSHOP.

I DO BELIEVE THAT PRE-REGISTRATION IS REQUIRED.

YOU CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION ONLINE.

THERE'LL BE ECO VENDORS, FREE SUSTAINABLE DEMONSTRATIONS, GIVEAWAYS, AND OF COURSE, THE MOVIE ON THE LAWN TO END YOUR EVENING.

WE DO HOPE THAT YOU WILL COME OUT AND JOIN US FOR THAT VERY FUN COMMUNITY ACTIVITY.

FLIP PAGE.

SO BEGINNING EDUCATION ON TOPICS LIKE WATER CONSERVATION EARLY IS VITAL FOR OUR YOUTH AND IN SECURING SUSTAINABLY GROUNDED AND ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS FUTURE FOR OUR CITY.

WE'VE CREATED A CURRICULUM THAT PARALLELS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY'S WATERSENSE PROGRAM, A DAY IN THE LIFE OF A DROP, AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE MANY RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO SHARE WITH OUR COMMUNITIES EDUCATORS.

EXCITINGLY, OUR DEPARTMENT IS NOW ONE OF THE ONLY OF ITS KIND IN THE ENTIRE STATE TO ACTUALLY OFFER CURRICULUMS FOR PRE-K THROUGH 12TH GRADE.

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THIS IS A TEN DAY, SELF-GUIDED TAKE HOME PROGRAM, AND THANKS TO OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, CHRISTINA BORN, THIS PROGRAM HAS MADE A VERY BIG SPLASH NOT ONLY HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS FAR NORTH AS PATRICK SPACE FORCE BASE, WHERE WE HAVE KITS IN THE CHILD DEVELOPMENT CENTER.

ADULTS AND THEIR POTTY TRAINERS CAN PICK UP THESE FREE KITS AT OUR UTILITIES CUSTOMER CARE OFFICE AT CITY HALL.

BECAUSE DEVELOPING HEALTHY TOILET HABITS AT A YOUNG AGE IS VERY CRITICAL IN BECOMING A FRIENDLY FLUSHER AND PRESERVING OUR CITY'S WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

SO I WOULD NOW LIKE TO LAUNCH WATER CONSERVATION MONTH WITH SOMETHING QUITE EXCITING BY INTRODUCING YOU TO THE NEWEST AND DARE I SAY, ARE SOON TO BE MOST RECOGNIZABLE FACE HERE AT THE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

INSPIRED BY AN ALMOST 50 YEAR EMPLOYEE AND PALM BAY RESIDENT ROBERT HINKLE, AS A THANK YOU AND TRIBUTE FOR ALL OF HIS LOYALTY AND DEDICATION TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR NEWEST OUTREACH MASCOT, THE VERY ONE AND THE VERY ONLY MR. BOB SPRINKLE.

YEAH.

THERE YOU GO, BOB. BOB! EASY, EASY, EASY.

HE'S A BABY. HE'S NEW TO WALKING.

SO. SO BOB'S ARRIVAL TO THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPING NEARLY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

HE'S A CHARACTER THAT REPRESENTS THE CHARACTER OF OUR EMPLOYEES LOYALTY AND DEDICATION.

AND HE'S A SYMBOL OF FUN IN WATER EDUCATION.

HE WILL SERVE AS A FRIENDLY FACE FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S YOUNGEST AND MOST SUSTAINABLE LEADERS.

AND AS THE NEED FOR OUTREACH HAS INCREASED, CHANGES IN OUR CONSUMER INFORMATION, BEHAVIOR AND OLD EDUCATION PATTERNS ARE FAILING.

EXPANDING OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION IN A NEW, FRESH AND INTRIGUING LIGHT IS KEY TO MAXIMIZING EXPOSURE ON THESE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECTS.

SO IN 2022, I ACTUALLY SOUGHT OUT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN MY BIGGEST AUDIENCE, A SIXTH GRADER WHO HAD AN ARTISTIC OR AN ARTISTIC VISION THAT MATCHED THE VERY IMAGE IN MY MIND'S EYE OF WHAT BOB WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH A FEW DETAILS AND ONE NON-NEGOTIABLE ATTRIBUTE.

ROBERT HINKLE, WHO HAS RETIRED AT THIS TIME, HAD A VERY ICONIC MUSTACHE, AND THIS GUY'S MATCHES IT, SO WE NEEDED THAT.

THE BIRTH OF THIS CHARACTER WAS DESIGNED.

THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MADE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE HELP OF THAT VERY TALENTED AND SPECIAL YOUNG WOMAN WHO WAS ACTUALLY HERE WITH US TONIGHT AND WITH HER MOTHER, FATHER, GRANDMOTHER AND UNCLE ALL BEING VALUED EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I FEEL IT ONLY FITTING THAT SHE TO GET TO MAKE HER PERSONAL MARK ON OUR CITY.

SO IN GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR HER OUTSTANDING CREATIVITY AND HER IMAGINATION, THE ENTIRE PALM BAY UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE MISS RILA CROSS THIS EVENING FOR BEING THE ARCHITECT.

SO AS A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR GRATITUDE, WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT HER WITH THIS AWARD OF ACHIEVEMENT.

AND ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, WE WANT TO WISH YOU HAPPY CONSERVATION MONTH AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSERVATION EFFORTS.

WELL. AND SHE GETS THIS COOL SHIRT LIKE MINE.

SO FOR ALL HER HEART.

COME ON OVER. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. CHRISTINE, ARE YOU TAKING A PHOTO? I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BEST PLACE TO STAY ON.

IS HE COOL? YEAH.

WHAT ABOUT GRANDMA? GRANDMA? COME ON. WHERE'S GRANDMA? COME ON. GRANDMA! COME ON.

GRANDMA! CAN YOU SEE YOURSELF? IT'S PERFECT.

GOTHAM. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. ARE WE GOOD? IF YOU.

NO. THANK YOU.

AWESOME. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. YOU GOT A GAME SATURDAY.

GAME. SATURDAY. OKAY.

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GOOD TO SEE YOU, BROTHER.

OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS IS AS YOU. AS YOU WERE.

YES, SIR. BEFORE YOU INTRODUCED THIS ITEM.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

YES, SIR. THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP FOR THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

AND THIS ITEM, THE MAYOR MEDINA WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM VOTING.

A FEW YEARS AGO, I DID CONTACT THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS.

BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THE MAYOR DOES NOT HOLD A PAID POSITION WITH THE CHURCH, HE IS A PASTOR AT THE CHURCH.

AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WASN'T DOING ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE UNETHICAL, EVEN THOUGH THERE WASN'T ANYTHING FOR HIS SPECIAL PRIVATE GAIN, BUT DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE SOMETHING WHERE HE WAS USING HIS POSITION AS MAYOR TO IMPROPERLY PROVIDE A BENEFIT TO OTHERS.

AND WE WERE ADVISED THAT UNDER SECTION 286 .01 12 FLORIDA STATUTE THAT HE SHOULD ABSTAIN BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THERE WASN'T A CONFLICT UNDER 112 3143, IT COULD BE THE APPEARANCE OF A POSSIBLE CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

I DID ADVISE THE MAYOR, AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HIS POLICY TO ACT IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT UPON THE CITY OR UPON HIS OWN MORALS OR ETHICS.

SO HE HAS SINCE THEN ABSTAINED FROM VOTING AND DISCLOSED HIS CONNECTION WITH THE AFFILIATION WITH THE CHURCH, AS HE WILL BE DOING TODAY. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

AND AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO PASS OVER THE GAVEL TO DEPUTY MAYOR, AND I WILL BE STEPPING OFF THE DAIS AS WELL, GENTLEMEN.

MAYOR, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES, SIR. CAN WE? I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE, AND YOU CAN STEP UP THERE, BUT CAN WE USE YOU TO ASK QUESTIONS? IS THAT. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE THE CITY ATTORNEY.

MADAM ATTORNEY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO IF I HAVE A QUESTION THAT ASKS AND I WANTED TO MAKE AN INPUT, CAN I DO THAT? I WOULD BE FIRST BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE OUT HERE, ONE OF WHICH THAT I SEE ALL THE TIME.

AND I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, HE MAY NOT BE AS ENTHUSIASTIC AS THE MAYOR, BUT HE'S VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND HIGHLY KNOWLEDGEABLE, AND I THINK HE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. SO I WOULD PREFER IF WE COULD HAVE THE PRESENTERS FROM THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA IF THEY'RE UNABLE TO ANSWER IT, AND THEY WANT TO ASK THE MAYOR TO HELP OUT, WE CAN GO FROM THERE.

BUT LET'S FIRST SEE IF THEY'RE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

SO AT THIS TIME, I'M PASSING THE GAVEL, AND DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU YOU OVERSEE THE MEETING.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL I BELIEVE, BRING FORWARD THE PRESENTER OF THIS ITEM.

OKAY. YES.

FOSTER. DELGADO. HEY, STOP! I STAND CORRECTED.

AS A POINT OF ORDER, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WOULD CALL IT.

SHOULD I BRING EVERYBODY UP NOW, OR SHOULD WE BRING THEM UP LATER? LATER. IS THAT A QUESTION THAT I CAN ASK YOU ALL BEFORE I START? I'D SAY BRING THEM UP NOW.

COME ON DOWN.

DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU.

AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THIS IS THE 16TH CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA AND THE PREVIOUS DIOCESE THAT WERE HERE BEFORE MAYOR MEDINA WAS MAYOR STILL LOOKED FORWARD TO THIS GREAT EVENT.

AND SO FIRST OF ALL, AS I SAID, IT WAS THE 16TH YEAR.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF NOTES BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S ALWAYS THE QUESTION OF SHOULD THE CITY CO-SPONSOR AN

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AND I JUST WANT TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS.

NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE PARKS.

WHY DO WE HAVE PARKS? THEY DON'T PRODUCE ANY MONEY FOR THE CITY.

IT IS A NET.

QUOTE UNQUOTE, AT LEAST FINANCIALLY SPEAKING, A NET LOSS.

BUT WE DON'T LOOK AT PARKS AS A NET LOSS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THOSE PARKS ARE HELPING THE QUALITY OF LIFE.

IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE THINK OF THE PARADES, THE PARADES THAT YOU ALL CO-SPONSOR OR EVEN HAVE.

LIKEWISE, IT IS A COMMUNITY EVENT TO EXPRESS GOODWILL FOR THE WHOLE OF CITY OF THE PALM BAY.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE THE REALITY THAT WHAT PRICE TAG CAN YOU PUT ON A GOOD NAME? THIS IS A COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE A COMMUNITY ATMOSPHERE.

THE THE INTRINSIC VALUE OF HAVING A GOOD NAME AS A CITY THAT CARES ABOUT FAMILIES CANNOT BE PLACED ASIDE BECAUSE A GOOD NAME THAT DRAWS FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES TO THIS COMMUNITY IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS CONSIDER.

THIS IS FAMILY FRIENDLY.

THIS IS WHERE THOUSANDS, IF NOT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COME.

WHY? BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES THE EXPRESSION OF UNITY THAT YOU HAVE PREPARED OR HAVE SET THE BUSINESSES THAT COME, AND SO THAT THE CHURCHES THAT ALSO CO-SPONSOR CAN MAKE THIS EVENT SOMETHING THAT JUST ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FORGET FOR A MINUTE THAT OUR BUDGET ON OUR SIDE, WHICH COSTS THE CITY NOTHING OF $30,000, PLUS GIFTS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY BUSINESSES THAT RESIDE RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING YES TO PALM BAY, BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT CITY.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HEARD THAT IN THE STREETS.

THEY'RE SAYING IT IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

IT'S OUT IN THE STREETS.

IT'S IN THE IT'S IN THE ALLEYS, IT'S IN THE BYWAYS.

BUT THAT'S WHAT I HEARD OUT THERE IN THE CITY.

FORGET THAT. THERE'S 600 MAN HOURS THAT GO BEFORE THE EVENT IN PLANNING AND STRATEGIZING, AND THE FACT THERE ARE 16 1600 HOURS, MAN, HOURS OF THE COMMUNITY ITSELF VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THIS A GREAT EVENT.

THIS IS THE GREATEST CHRISTMAS PARTY ON THE SPACE COAST THAT DRAWS IN PEOPLE EVEN BEYOND OUR COUNTY LIMITS.

THIS IS WHAT PALM BAY IS ABOUT.

AND THUS I INVITE NOT JUST THE BUSINESSES AND THE CHURCHES AND THE INDIVIDUALS TO PARTNER WITH US TO MAKE THIS THE GREATEST CHRISTMAS PARTY, AS ALREADY DOUBLE DIGIT CHURCHES ARE AND BUSINESSES.

BUT I INVITE THE CITY OF PALM BAY ALSO TO CONSIDER PARTNERING WITH THIS EVENT THAT STARTED IN THE BACKYARD OF A CHURCH AND NOW IS REACHING THE COUNTY AND BEYOND.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT? I, I WILL SAY I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVEN GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BE UP HERE.

THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA IS AN EVENT THAT IS VERY VALUABLE.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE THAT COME THAT CAN'T EVEN AFFORD CHRISTMAS GIFTS FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT THEY PROVIDED.

THEY EVEN SAY, I COULDN'T EVEN GET ONE GIFT FOR MY CHILD YET.

YOU GUYS PROVIDED IT.

AND IT'S NOT US.

IT'S THE COMMUNITY THAT COMES TOGETHER TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

SO WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY, WITHOUT THE CITY, WITHOUT THE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

SO FOR THAT, WE THANK YOU.

WE THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVEN GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE UP HERE.

AND THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE EXTRAVAGANZA SOMETHING AMAZING THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR AND SUPERSEDES WHAT WE EVER EXPECT FOR IT TO BE.

TO HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME.

AND ALTHOUGH IT IS A CHRISTIAN EVENT AS WELL, IT'S BECOME A TRADITION FOR PALM BAY EVERYWHERE I GO, SECULAR OR KINGDOM WISE, IT'S A TRADITION LIKE WE'RE KNOWN FOR THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA FROM THE SAFE TO THE UNSAVED.

IT'S OUR THING HERE.

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YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD I'LL JUST ADD ONE THING THIS YEAR, I THINK MORE THAN EVER THIS YEAR, I BELIEVE FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, IT'S ACTUALLY THREE DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS ITSELF THIS YEAR. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST VITAL TO THE TO THE COMMUNITY.

THIS YEAR MORE THAN EVER THAT FAMILIES COME OUT, THEY PUT THEIR CELL PHONES, THEY PUT THEIR ELECTRONICS AWAY.

THEY HAVE FAMILY TIME.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

YEAH, YEAH. PASTOR DELGADO AND TEAM, I'M NOT GOING TO EVEN ATTEMPT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.

I'M A HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST A FAMILY TO ATTEND THIS EVENT? WELL, THAT'S THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

I THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

AMAZINGLY, IT'S FR W E FREE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

EVERYTHING IS FREE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU TEAM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS? GENTLEMEN? OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FIRST EVENTS WHEN I MOVED TO PALM BAY WAS THIS CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

AND THAT'S WHERE I MET RON MEDINA FOR THE FIRST TIME.

AND HE WALKED ME OVER THEN I DIDN'T MEET YOU.

PASTOR, I WISH I DID, BUT I MET ROB MEDINA AND IT WAS IN WEST MELBOURNE.

IT WAS IN WEST MELBOURNE.

SO MIKE AND THAT'S WHY I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THIS.

WHAT MADE YOU MOVE FROM WEST MELBOURNE TO PALM BAY.

ACTUALLY IT WAS ON BY INVITATION OF THE, THE, THE CITY MAYOR OF THAT TIME THAT INVITED US.

THEY SAID PASTOR KEN, THIS IS AN AMAZING EVENT.

YOU'RE IN PALM BAY.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING OVER THERE AT WEST MELBOURNE? SEEMED LIKE A LOGICAL QUESTION.

AND SO HE ACTUALLY INVITED US TO COME TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO HAVE THAT EVENT HERE.

THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT WAS A COUNCIL BEFORE THIS THAT INVITED YOU HERE.

AND SINCE YOU LEFT WEST MELBOURNE, HOW DID THE CROWD? IT SEEMED LIKE IT GREW LARGER AND LARGER EVERY TIME I SHOWED UP.

CAN YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

IT IT HAS, IT HAS.

FROM THAT MOMENT, IT HAS MUSHROOMED TO THE POINT THAT I'M GOING.

I COULD HAVE NEVER IMAGINED THAT IT WOULD BE WHAT IT IS TODAY, INCLUDING MECHANICAL RIDES.

YEAH. I MEAN, AT SOME POINT I'M WONDERING WHAT'S NEXT.

A FERRIS WHEEL.

DO YOU HAVE A APPROXIMATELY HOW MANY PALM BAY RESIDENTS ATTEND THE EXTRAVAGANZA? DO YOU KNOW A NUMBER? WE DON'T. WE DON'T HAVE.

IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW HOW MANY PALM BAY MEYERS COME TO THIS EVENT.

WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT ON THE PINGS.

NOW, I MAY I MAY BE SLIGHTLY OFF HERE, BUT I BELIEVE ON THE PINGS THERE WAS LIKE 25,000 PEOPLE TWO YEARS AGO.

OF COURSE, LAST YEAR WE HAD MORE RAIN THAN WHAT WE WANTED.

ALTHOUGH WE'RE WE'RE THANKFUL FOR CONSERVING WATER.

WE WE PRAY THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE THE DAY FOR WATER TO COME, BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ABOUT 25,000.

BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT BECAUSE WE ARE IN PALM BAY, THE INITIAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME WERE BASICALLY ALL PALM BAYERS.

IT WAS THE NAME THAT CONTINUED TO INCREASE, THAT BEGAN TO ATTRACT PEOPLE FROM OTHER CITIES AND THEN FROM BEYOND OUR COUNTY.

THANK YOU. AND PASTOR, CAN YOU GIVE ME A SHORT STORY OF HOW HAVE YOU HELPED SOMEONE WHO'S IMPOVERISHED, IN POVERTY, OR FAMILY HAVE COME FROM A BROKEN FAMILY THAT SHOWS UP AT YOUR EVENT THAT CHANGED THEIR LIFE? CAN YOU GIVE ME A SHORT STORY? ABSOLUTELY. I'M.

AND I'M SURE THERE'S MULTIPLE STORIES HERE.

ONE THAT REALLY HITS ME IS SOMEONE WHO CAME.

THEY WON THE GRAND PRIZE, AS WELL AS LEAVING WITH ARMFUL OF OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE GIVEN THROUGHOUT THAT DAY.

AND THEY SAID THIS.

OUR HOUSE HAD BURNED DOWN.

WE WERE FORCED TO GO LIVE IN OUR A, ONE OF OUR EXTENDED FAMILY'S HOME, AND WE ARE SQUISHED INTO ONE ROOM.

OUR WAY OF LIFE DOES NOT MATCH HOW THE REST OF THE FAMILY WAS LIVING, BUT BECAUSE YOU GAVE US WHAT WE HAD, NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE CHRISTMAS PRESENTS WHEN WE COULD NOT AFFORD ONE, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY HAPPENED TO RECEIVE A VIDEO

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THEY SAID WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO HAVE SO, SO TO SPEAK, A MOVIE AT HOME IN OUR ROOM.

YOU MADE CHRISTMAS FOR US.

THAT'S JUST ONE OF COUNTLESS STORIES THAT THAT ANYBODY HERE COULD SHARE.

YEAH. CHRISTMAS IS A, TO ME, THE MOST IMPORTANT HOLIDAY IN THE UNITED STATES.

AND ALTHOUGH WE CELEBRATE JESUS BIRTH A LOT OF PEOPLE WIND UP TAKING THEIR LIVES OR DOING SOMETHING CRAZY.

SO TRUE. AND AND WE HAVE TO PRAY AND PRAY FOR THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR WHAT YOU DO.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, PASTOR DELGADO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND, TEAM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN TIMES PAST.

WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AT THIS TIME WE LIKE TO BRING MISTER BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO MY BELIEFS.

I AM NOT A FAN OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY USING TAX DOLLAR MONEY TO CO-SPONSOR.

TAX, TAX EXEMPT IDENTITIES.

SO I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO THAT BELIEF AND PRESENT THAT AS I SEE IT.

ONE THING I DO GREATLY APPRECIATE, THOUGH, ABOUT THE ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA IS THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP THAT I EVER SEE COMING BACK TO THE CITY AFTER THEIR EVENT AND THEN GIVING CASH DONATION.

WHILST NOT CASH, IT'S A CHECK DONATION BACK TO THE CITY TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE CITY FOR OFFSETTING THE COST AND FOR THEIR APPRECIATION FOR THE EFFORT THAT THE THE POLICE AND THE FIRE AND PUBLIC WORKS HAVE TO PARKS AND RECS HAVE TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT INTO THEIR HELPING THEIR FUNCTION COME TO COMPLETION.

SO THEY'RE THE ONLY GROUP THAT I EVER SEE DOING THAT.

AND I SAY A LITTLE BIT, I MEAN, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, I THINK LAST YEAR WAS $9,000, WHICH IS ALMOST AS MUCH AS WHAT THEY ASKED FOR.

BUT I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO WHO I AM AND SAY I AM NOT A FAN OF CO-SPONSORSHIP OF THE CITY TO NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BATTEN. JUST.

JUST A SECOND. THE TECHNICAL.

THIS CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM, GENTLEMEN.

BRING IT BACK TO YOU FOR A MOTION.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS AS CO-SPONSORSHIP OF CHRISTMAS SKIES AGAIN.

SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENT? YEAH, JUST I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF.

I JUST WANT TO THANK THE HOUSE AND THE VOLUNTEERS.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

YOU YOU MAKE CHRISTMAS IN PALM BAY EVERY YEAR.

AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT.

THE VALUE THAT YOU BRING TO THIS CITY IS, IS UNMATCHED.

IT'S IT'S BEYOND MONEY.

THE VOLUNTEER, THE WORK, THE HARD WORK YOU PUT IN.

AND THEY BRING THE BUSINESSES TOGETHER.

YOU BRING BUSINESS TOGETHER TO MAKE PALM BAY BETTER.

AND THAT'S OUR GOAL ON THIS DAIS, TO MAKE PALM BAY THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT.

I JUST WANT TO PASS THE DELGADO PASTOR ROB MEDINA VOLUNTEERS.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME, BUT THANK YOU.

I'M NOT GOING TO ATTEMPT TO TO SAY ANY MORE.

ENOUGH'S BEING SAID ABOUT THIS EVENT, THIS EVENT PROVING ITS FRUITS OVER THE YEARS.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUALITY OF LIFE, ADDED VALUE ADDED TO OUR COMMUNITY.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE A CHRISTMAS WITHOUT THIS, THIS EVENT TO BE, TO BE QUITE HONEST.

SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AS THAT.

I YIELD MY TIME TO YEAH.

I'LL TRY. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF, SIR.

AND I'M WITH MISTER BATON.

I SAID IT LAST MEETING. I'M WITH MISTER BATON REGARDING, YOU KNOW CO-SPONSORSHIP FOR EVENTS AND USING TAX DOLLARS WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE GRANTS AND FUNDING IN OTHER AREAS, LIKE WE MENTIONED THE CDBG.

BUT THEN I'VE HAD MEANINGFUL CONVERSATIONS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

PASTOR, I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO YOU, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU THROUGH OTHERS IS WHAT I'LL SAY.

PEOPLE THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, BUT STORIES SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT.

AND WITH THAT, I HAVE TO LOOK AT JUST NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THE THE LOGISTICAL OF IT, BUT ALSO THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE FAMILIES, LIKE YOU SAID.

THESE EVENTS LIKE THIS SOMETIMES GIVE HOPE.

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THE GENTLEMAN ON THE BRIDGE, HE FELT HOPELESS.

YEAH. THESE ARE SOME OF THE UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE NOT HAVING.

BUT I'M GRATEFUL, YOU KNOW, FOR HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE LIKE COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID.

IN SOME CASES, IT IS MORE THAN DOLLARS.

AM I HAPPY WITH THE CO-SPONSORSHIP AS IT IS? DO I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REVISITED OR REVISED? YES, BUT I SEE I SEE THE IMPACT WITH IT.

PASTOR SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM.

I'M I'M EXCITED FOR THE NEXT ONE TOO BECAUSE WE TALK ABOUT EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT.

SO I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, EVENT LIKE THIS.

YES, WE'RE GIVING OUR YOUTH HOPE.

BUT LET'S ALSO PUSH THEM TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, APPLYING FOR JOBS AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET A JOB IN THE CITY OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT MOVING FORWARD.

SO I APPRECIATE YOUR PASTOR.

THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING DIRECTLY TO YOU, SIR.

AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOUR TEAM IS DOING.

MAYOR. I APPRECIATE YOU TOO, SIR.

I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO STAY OFF ON THE CUT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THIS, SIR.

SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT IN PALM BAY.

I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.

YOU'RE LIKE, HEY, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, DON'T MESS IT UP.

AND THEY GO BACK TO WEST MELBOURNE.

I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.

OKAY, THIS TIME, SO I'M NOT GOING TO MESS IT UP.

YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE REAL, BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING, AND I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT TODAY, SO THANK YOU.

GENTLEMEN, I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

YES. THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF FEAR.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS NEXT ITEM IS A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FOR THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOL CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION DEPARTMENT'S RECRUITMENT FAIR.

I BELIEVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS HERE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EVENT AND WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING A CO-SPONSORSHIP.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PETER PHILLIPS.

I'M WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND RESPONSIBLE FOR INTERNSHIPS FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS IN THEIR FINAL YEAR AT HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COLLABORATE WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO PROVIDE WHAT WE'RE CALLING A RECRUITMENT FAIR.

WE'RE PARTNERING WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THEY WILL BE AT CITY HALL.

I THINK IT'S ALSO INSTRUMENTAL THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN CITY HALL THAT DAY.

SO THAT'S A LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR THEM.

WE INTEND TO INVITE BETWEEN 25 AND 30 BUSINESSES HERE TO RECRUIT THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR FINAL YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL.

I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT OVER 40 YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE APPLIED FOR THOSE INTERNSHIPS THAT LIVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN.

HOW MANY? FOUR? FOUR? ZERO? 4040.

AND THAT'S OUT OF 200 APPLICANTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE WORK IS DONE.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO, AND I'M EXCITED TO SHARE AS WELL, AT LEAST WHAT I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO REPORT LATER ON THAT MANY OF THEM WILL BE EMPLOYED BY THE CITY AS WELL AS LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THANK YOU. YEP.

OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR? UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

ABSOLUTELY. WELL, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON HERE IS BITING AT THE CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS OR GIVE YOU A COMMENT, BUT FROM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO.

TO ASSIST A YOUNG MIND, A YOUNG PERSON, TO SEEK A FUTURE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF BEING A GREAT, PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN OTHER THAN JOINING THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.

JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE, BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN JOINING THE MILITARY, AND I.

I WON'T BE BIASED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, ANY BRANCH OF SERVICE, BUT I REALLY LOVE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

IN, IN LEADING OTHERS, LEADING OUR YOUTH TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND HAVE A HARD WORK ETHIC.

I'LL YIELD NOW TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE WERE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ADVERTISING METHODS YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING, OR THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING ADVERTISING METHODS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES? WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, SIR, IS THAT BETTER? MY APOLOGIES. YEAH. MOSTLY FOR THE YOUTH, BUT YOU CAN ELABORATE ON ATTRACTING THE STUDENTS.

OKAY, EXCELLENT. WE OBVIOUSLY ADVERTISE THROUGH BREVARD SCHOOLS, BUT WE ALSO GO DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOLS.

OKAY? OKAY. AND EACH STUDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT TO ALL YOUNG PEOPLE.

RIGHT. AND SO EACH SCHOOL ALSO HAS A CAREER FAIR AT THEIR LOCATION WHERE OUR STAFF ARE REPRESENTED, TO TALK TO STUDENTS ABOUT INTERNSHIPS.

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I'M EXCITED TO SHARE THAT THIS YEAR'S 180 IS A RECORD NUMBER IN THE COUNTY FOR STUDENTS APPLYING FOR INTERNSHIPS.

WE WANT TO SEE THAT NUMBER GROW.

WE DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE IT GROW LOCALLY AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ASK IS I DEFINITELY KNOW IF WE, YOU KNOW, TAP INTO THE PRINCIPALS THAT, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY HIGH AND BAYSIDE HERITAGE.

AND THEY SENT OUT JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUR CITY MANAGER WILL SEND OUT A CITYWIDE EMAIL.

THEY CAN SEND OUT A, YOU KNOW, HIGH SCHOOL WIDE EMAIL TO ALL THE TEACHERS.

HEY, MAKE SURE YOU PRESENT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OUR KIDS.

AND THAT DOES HAPPEN OKAY.

YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SO TEAMS. YEAH.

TEAMS. YEP. YES.

EVERYBODY. SO ALL RIGHT I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU SIR I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL QUESTION.

MA'AM. WE HAVE A QUESTION.

YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

SOME OF THESE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT SOME THE HIGH SCHOOLS, BAYSIDE PALM BAY HERITAGE, THEY HAVE SOME TECHNICAL CLASSES, DON'T THEY? RIGHT. DO YOU KNOW SOME OF THE STUDENTS THAT TAKE THESE TECHNICAL CLASSES FOR EMPLOYMENT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, DO YOU KNOW ANY OF THEM HAVE APPLIED FOR THIS INTERNSHIP? GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT I THINK I THINK FOLKS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE WELL, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM CTE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION, THOSE ARE THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING.

PART OF OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THE STUDENTS WHO ARE GETTING OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE INTERNSHIPS HAVE DONE AT LEAST TWO YEARS IN A CTE PROGRAM, SO THEY'RE COMING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH CREDENTIALS.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE PRETTY ATTRACTIVE AND TALENTED YOUNG PEOPLE.

THAT'S AVAILABLE TO LOCAL BUSINESS AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, TO BUSINESSES, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LOOK AT HOW THEY BUILD CAPACITY IN THEIR ORGANIZATION.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT OR A HELP OUT, OKAY? THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE TALENTS AND SKILLS THAT COULD ACTUALLY TRANSFORM YOUR ORGANIZATION.

AND WE'RE USING IT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS TO FILL GAPS THAT WE CAN'T FILL OURSELVES.

I'M TALKING ABOUT ME PERSONALLY.

SO SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, IS ABSOLUTELY YES.

THERE'S A DIRECT CONNECTION.

THE CTE PROGRAMS REALLY SERVES THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE BRINGING BUSINESSES INTO THIS SPACE, WHICH THEN ALLOWS BUSINESSES TO TAP THOSE YOUNG TALENTS, OKAY, FOR INDUSTRY AS THEY GRADUATE OR INDEED SUPPORT THEIR EDUCATION.

MANY OF THESE BUSINESSES WILL ALSO PAY FOR THEIR HIGHER EDUCATION AS THEY TRANSITION FROM HIGH SCHOOL.

RIGHT. SO THESE ARE THE GREAT STUDENTS I WOULD CALL THESE NOT THE BAD STUDENTS.

THESE AREN'T THE DROPOUTS, THESE NOT THE ONES THAT GET IN, BUT THESE ARE THE GOOD STUDENTS THAT NEED A CHANCE.

WOULD YOU SAY THAT? I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S A CROSS SPECTRUM, AND VERY OFTEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIG DEEPER.

COMPANIES ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO DIG DEEPER.

WE HAVE VERY BRIGHT AND TALENTED YOUNG PEOPLE LOCALLY.

THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.

WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE IN BETWEEN.

WE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS WHO ALSO HAVE TO FIND THEIR WAY, BUT ALL OF THEM ULTIMATELY HAVE A PASSION.

THAT PART OF OUR JOB IS TO CONNECT THEM TO THAT AND HELP THEM FIND THEIR WAY SO THAT THEY CAN HELP OUR CITY THRIVE.

AND AS I SAID, BEING PART OF THIS COLLABORATION ALLOWS YOU TO BE PART OF THAT TEAM.

ALSO, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID.

HELP THEM FIND THEIR WAY TO A CAREER.

YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

THAT'S GIVING A PERSON AN OPPORTUNITY NO MATTER WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND.

AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE.

THANK YOU, SIR. HEY, COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. YOU'RE SPOT ON WITH THAT.

AND I'LL JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAVE A MANUFACTURING COMPANY RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY, AND I SHARED THIS ON THE MY REPORTS LAST MEETING WITH CHAIFETZ AND THE PROGRAM THAT BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL HAS.

THEY'RE FUNNELING THESE STUDENTS.

THEY GET CERTIFIED RIGHT, WITH THOSE CREDENTIALS THAT HE'S HE'S REFERRING TO.

AND THEY GOT A JOB OPPORTUNITY IN MANUFACTURING RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE BUILDING PARTS FOR THE F-35.

THEY'RE GETTING GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.

SO I, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE VOCATIONS THAT ARE BEING TAUGHT BY OUR HIGH SCHOOLS TODAY HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY, KIND OF LIKE GOMPERS IN NEW YORK CITY, AVIATION HIGH SCHOOL.

THOSE HIGH SCHOOLS WERE GEARED TOWARDS VOCATION.

SO THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE DOING THE SAME, SIMILAR THING.

AND AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHAT'S WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENED GIVEN THESE, THESE YOUNGSTERS AND OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO JOIN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, I THINK YOU GENTLEMEN PRETTY MUCH SPOT ON.

I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT FORESIGHT AND AND REALLY CREATING THAT SPACE FOR FOR THESE YOUNG PEOPLE TO COME OUT.

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SO WENT RIGHT INTO TO THE WORKFORCE.

SO SO I KNOW THESE ARE VERY VALUABLE SERVICES AND OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.

SO I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES WE DO. MR. BATON. GOOD, SIR.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AS ALWAYS. CO-SPONSORSHIP.

I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO WHO I AM.

I DON'T BELIEVE ANY IDENTITY THAT ISN'T PAYING TAXES SHOULD GET A BREAK.

IN FACT, I LOOK AT MY TAXES.

THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF TAX I PAY ON MY TAX BILL GOES TO THE SCHOOL ALREADY.

SO THEN THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR CO-SPONSORSHIP WITHIN THE CITY, WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED TO GET.

BY THE WAY, OUR POLICY CURRENTLY STANDS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

BUT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA PACKET, I DIDN'T SEE THEIR APPLICATION FOR THE CO-SPONSORSHIP IN THE PACKET.

AND SO THAT GENERATES A QUESTION.

DID THEY MEET THE 45 DAY DEADLINE IN SUBMISSION OF THEIR APPLICATION BEFORE THIS EVENT? RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE TO STAY TRUE TO WHO I AM.

THE PROGRAMS, THEY'RE THE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO UTILIZE IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT DID THEY FOLLOW THE PROPER PROCEDURES? AND IF NOT, JUST BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN THE PACKET? THAT'S NOT SAYING IT'S NOT THERE.

I JUST DID NOT SEE IT IN THE PACKET AS I DO WITH ALL THE OTHER CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUESTS.

SO I HAVE TO STAY TRUE.

AND THAT'S THE WAY IT STANDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND WHY IT WASN'T INCLUDED, BUT I DO KNOW FROM STAFF THAT IT WAS HANDLED IN THE NORMAL PROCESS PROCEDURE, TIME FRAME.

SO THERE WAS NOTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR ONE, AND I APOLOGIZE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THAT NORMAL INFORMATION IN THE PACKET FOR YOU.

WE CAN CERTAINLY GET THAT TO YOU AFTERWARDS, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NEXT SPEAKER.

THIS CONCLUDES THE FOR THIS.

I'M SORRY. OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, SIR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN ONLY OTHER THING, MAYOR.

A FEW A FEW YEARS AGO, WE STARTED WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH CTE PROGRAMS. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR CERTAIN POSITIONS WITHIN THE CITY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE US GET BACK TO THAT IN REGARDS TO GETTING THEM IN HERE AND GETTING THEM STARTED, BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE RETIRING.

WE JUST HAD LIEUTENANT BLAND JUST RETIRED COMMANDER ZANDERS.

SO THERE'S A NEED TO BE FILLED.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT LOCAL, WE WANT LOCAL.

WE WANT TO SHOW THEM THAT WE APPRECIATE THEM.

JUST LIKE WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO US AND MAKE SURE WE GIVE THEM THE GUIDANCE AND THE EXPERIENCE.

BECAUSE ONCE THIS WAVE OF PEOPLE START RETIRING AND ALL THAT EXPERIENCE IS GONE, IT'S NOT COMING BACK.

SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET AS MANY INTERNS AS WE CAN THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, GETTING THAT, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONAL KNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, FROM DECADES AT A TIME THAT CAN SURPASS ANYTHING YOU CAN GET IN SCHOOL SOMETIMES.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD.

I SERVED, SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PRESENT.

OH, WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THIS IS CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASING THE PROPERTY THAT IS INCLUDES THE EVANS CENTER.

IT'S ON FOUR PARCELS IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE CITY.

AND I'LL DEFER TO JOHN BROWN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM FOR US TONIGHT.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MANAGER.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

SO WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY THE EVANS CENTER AND NEIGHBOR UP BREVARD, AND THEY ARE HERE THIS EVENING AS WELL.

ABOUT FOUR PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN THAT MAKE UP THE EVANS CENTER, WHICH HAS A FACILITY APPROXIMATELY JUST OVER 6000FT².

WE RECEIVED AN INTEREST IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, AND THE CITY EXPLORED THIS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

WHAT WE LEARNED IS THEY THEY HAVE TWO MORTGAGE NOTES HELD BY FLORIDA COMMUNITY LOAN FUND OR REFER TO THEM AS LOAN A AND LOAN B.

LOAN A HAS A VALUE, A PRINCIPAL VALUE OF $368,602.73.

LOAN B HAS A PRINCIPAL VALUE OF $299,997.50, AND IN ADDITION TO THOSE LOANS, THE EVANS CENTER ALSO HAS A GRANT PROVIDED BY THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IN 2018 AND THE VALUE OF 250,000, WHICH HOLDS A SECOND LIEN POSITION.

THE EVANS CENTER CONDUCTED AN APPRAISAL.

THEY RECEIVED AN APPRAISED VALUE FOR A NONPROFIT VALUE OF 1 MILLION, OR A FOR PROFIT VALUE OF 1.3 MILLION.

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AND THEY BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE PAYS, I THINK, A $100 PER MONTH, AND THAT INCLUDES VARIOUS UTILITY BILLS AND SECURITY. WE DID RECEIVE CONFIRMATION THIS WEEK THAT THE FLORIDA COMMUNITY LOAN FUND WOULD BE WILLING TO FORGIVE THE 100% OF THE PRINCIPAL VALUE OF LOAN BE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 300,000.

SHOULD THE CITY DESIRE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY AS A PUBLIC FACILITY FOR BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY? AND SO IN DISCUSSING ALL OF THAT AND, AND IDENTIFYING WHAT THEIR OUTSTANDING BALANCE AND LOANS ARE AND LOOKING AT THE APPRAISED VALUE AS A NONPROFIT ENTITY, THE CITY PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AT THE APPRAISED VALUE OF 1 MILLION, BACKING OUT THE 250,000 FROM THE THE CRA GRANT IF FORGIVEN, BACKING OUT THE FORGIVENESS OF LOAN BE ABOUT 300,000.

THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER 500,000 FOR THE CITY TO NEGOTIATE THE PURCHASE OF THE EVANS CENTER FACILITY AND LAND.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL I'LL STATE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD GENERAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE IN THAT FACILITY.

I KNOW THAT THE EVANS CENTER DID ISSUE A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

THE SURVEY RESPONSE CAME BACK OVER OVERWHELMINGLY.

THEY RESPONDED WITH, THEY LIKE ACCESS TO FRESH FOODS, MEATS AND GROCERIES, EXPANDED HEALTH CARE AND CAREER READINESS AND TRAINING.

AND WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION YOU HAVE FOR ME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

OTHERWISE, WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF EVANS, CENTER AND NEIGHBOR OF BREVARD, IN THE AUDIENCE.

YEAH. DID THEY WANT TO SHARE A PRESENTATION WITH US? I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO SPEAK.

OKAY, SO DO YOU HAVE AN ORDER OF SEQUENCE OF THE SPEAKERS? I DON'T THINK WE HAD FORMAL PRESENTATIONS, BUT.

OKAY, IF YOU IF YOU LIKE A SINGLE REPRESENTATIVE TO COME UP, WE CAN DO THAT.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT, SIR? WELL, IF THIS COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL, I DO, MAYOR.

OKAY. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF US? OKAY. CARRY ON.

YOU MENTION A SURVEY NOW HOW OLD IS THIS SURVEY? IS THAT PRIOR TO BEFORE THE.

IS THAT THE ORIGINAL SURVEY BEFORE THE EVANS CENTER OPENED, OR IS THAT RECENT? HOW RECENT DO YOU MEAN APPRAISAL OR SURVEY ON THE SURVEY? THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. COMMUNITY SURVEY.

SO I WOULD DEFER TO EVANS CENTER TO SPEAK ON THIS DIRECTLY, BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONES THAT CONDUCTED THE SURVEY.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 2023 WHEN THE SURVEY WENT OUT.

OKAY. 2023 OKAY.

LON? AYE. WOULD YOU REPEAT THE AMOUNT OF LOAN A FOR ME, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE? LOAN A IS $368,602.73, AND B $299,997.50. PERFECT.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. HI.

DID YOU WANT TO APPROACH? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

TO THE REST OF THE ESTEEMED DAIS.

I'M JORDAN CHANDLER. I SERVE AS THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE BOARD OF NEIGHBOR UP BREVARD BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

IN ADDITION TO.

I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER FOR EVANS CENTER AND ALSO A PROUD RESIDENT OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF LEAR ROWE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS VAL TERRY.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE EVANS CENTER, INC.

BOARD. LYNN ROCKWELL CAREY IS IN THE BACK.

SHE JUST RETIRED.

SUCH A BEAUTIFUL THING FROM NEIGHBOR UP.

AND I RECOGNIZE DENISE CARTER, WHO IS ALSO HERE.

SHE IS ON THE NEIGHBOR BOARD, AS WELL AS LESLIE TIBBETS, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD.

SO IN REGARDS TO YOUR QUESTION TO THE COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WAS TAKEN BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2023, THERE HAD BEEN A PREVIOUS SURVEY DONE PROBABLY A YEAR OR SO BEFORE, BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT ALL POSSIBLE BENEFITS TO THAT AREA AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT WERE SUPPORTING AND PATRONIZING THE EVANS CENTER MARKET WERE THOSE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO HAD LIKE TRANSPORTATION LIMITS OR JUST WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE SUPPORT FROM FAMILY THAT THEY NEEDED.

SO THEY LEANED HEAVILY ON THE MARKET FOR SOCIAL ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS GETTING FOOD ASSISTANCE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT RESOUNDING RESPONSE.

WE WANT FRESH FOODS AND MEATS IN THIS LOCATION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION. GO AHEAD.

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I WANT THAT RESTAURANT BACK OPEN.

YOU KNOW, I.

I HAD AN OFFICE DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU GUYS AND I ATE LUNCH THERE MANY A TIMES.

NOT ONLY FIND PALM BAY.

FINANCE, POLICE DEPARTMENT POLICE OFFICERS USED TO GO THERE ALL THE TIME TO EAT LUNCH, AND AND IT WAS A GOOD RESTAURANT, A GOOD PRICE, TOO.

I'M SORRY TO HEAR IT CLOSED.

IT REALLY BROKE MY HEART TO HEAR.

I KNOW Y'ALL Y'ALL WORKED REAL HARD, AND Y'ALL GAVE YOUNG PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THERE.

YOU GAVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY.

I TALKED TO SOME OF THEM YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WORKED IN THAT THAT SUPERMARKET.

WHAT I KNOW YOU APPRAISE.

THIS MIGHT BE A DUMB QUESTION.

THE CONDITION OF THE BUILDING.

DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION? IS IT? YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A BUILDING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, FALLING APART OR CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT? THE CONDITION OF THE THE EVENT CENTER.

THE WHOLE CENTER ITSELF, BECAUSE IT LOOKS FROM THE OUTSIDE, LOOKS PRETTY GOOD.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INSIDE LOOKS LIKE.

I WOULD. I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT THE LAST TIME THAT YOU VISITED IS HOW IT LOOKS.

EXCEPT THE SHELVING IS DOWN AND THE KITCHEN IS NOT OPERATIONAL, SO YOU'RE NOT IN GOING TO BE GETTING A BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO BREAK DOWN IN TWO DAYS.

AS SOON AS YOU PURCHASE IT.

IT'S IT'S SOUND.

THE COMMUNITY ROOM IS STILL IN THE BACK AND HAS USE.

AS SHE MENTIONED BEFORE, BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE IS STILL SEEING PATIENTS IN THE BACK.

SO THE ONLY PART THAT'S NOT OPERATIONAL IS THE MARKET AS WELL AS THE KITCHEN.

AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE WE HAD TO SHUT THAT DOWN.

AND CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN THE HISTORICAL NAME OF THAT BUILDING AND WHAT IT DOES FOR THE COMMUNITY? YEAH. COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. SO THE EVANS CENTER WAS FIRST ESTABLISHED, IF I DARE NOT TO SAY PROBABLY BACK IN THE 1950S.

BY MR. EVANS.

THAT STORE EXISTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

MANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO COULD NOT AFFORD RIGHT TO GO TO WALMART OR TO GO ELSEWHERE OBVIOUSLY PATRONIZE THE EVANS CENTER EVANS STORE.

EXCUSE ME. EVEN UP UNTIL WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY BACK IN THE EARLY 2000 I WOULD WALK FROM MY HOUSE TO EVANS STORE QUITE OFTEN.

UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK EVANS STORE CLOSED PROBABLY MIDDLE OF 2000.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAD INCURRED A LOT OF DRUG AND CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

AND SO THAT FACILITY WAS THEN SHUT DOWN.

THEN THE CITY ACTUALLY CAME IN IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ACTUALLY PURCHASED THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

I THINK UNDER FORMER CITY MANAGER LEE FELDMAN.

HE WANTED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO THAT ALMOST DILAPIDATED BUILDING IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY.

BUT THEN ANOTHER CITY MANAGER CAME IN.

HEARTS AND MINDS WERE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY DECIDED TO SELL THAT PROPERTY TO WHAT IS NOW NEIGHBOR BREVARD.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE JUST THE GUARANTOR ON THE LOAN.

BUT IN ADDITION TO THE EVANS CENTER FOR THE BENEFIT OF IT BEING A COMMUNITY MARKET FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN EVANS CENTER THEN MADE ITS RESURGENCE 2018, 2019 WE THEN FACED WHAT WE KNOW IS COVID, RIGHT? AND SO WE RAN INTO A NUMBER OF ISSUES NOT GETTING INDIVIDUALS TO PATRONIZE THE BUSINESS IN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DUE TO A NUMBER OF ISSUES.

BUT ULTIMATELY THAT IS SORT OF THE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE.

THAT BUILDING OR FORMER BUILDING WAS A STAPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 50, 60 YEARS, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DEPENDED ON IT.

AND SO IN THAT SAME VEIN IT SORT OF SIDING WITH FORMER CITY MANAGER LEE FELDMAN, WE WOULD LOVE TO IT TO COME FULL CIRCLE AND GET BACK IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS A COMMUNITY ASSET FOR THOSE WHO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN THE GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY.

NOW. THANK YOU, MR. EVANS. I'M SORRY, DIDN'T MR. EVANS WAS REALLY DEVOTED TO LITERACY AS WELL? I WOULD SAY YES, SIR.

I DID NOT PERSONALLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET MR. EVANS, BECAUSE I WAS FAIRLY YOUNG AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME.

I DON'T REMEMBER MY INTERACTION WITH HIM, SO I'LL LEAN ON THAT A LITTLE BIT TO ANSWER THAT.

MR. EVANS WAS A PHENOMENAL MAN.

AGAIN, I CAN ECHO HIS SENTIMENTS.

I COULD WALK IN THAT STORE.

HE KNEW MY NAME.

OF COURSE HE KNEW MY PARENTS, WHICH WAS ALWAYS A GOOD THING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT HE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED CHILDREN TO GET THEIR EDUCATION.

HE ENCOURAGED US TO CONTINUE TO DO WELL.

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RIGHT. SO YOU HAVE STONE MIDDLE SCHOOL AT THAT TIME.

YOU HAVE PALM BAY HIGH SCHOOL AND UNIVERSITY PARK, AND WE ALL WERE CENTERED BETWEEN THE CHURCHES, EVANS STORE AND SCHOOL.

AND WITH HIS OWN FAMILY.

WE SAW HOW HE PUSHED HIS CHILDREN AND HIS GRANDCHILDREN TO EXCEL BEYOND WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN MELBOURNE.

GET YOUR EDUCATION, DO SOMETHING GREAT, AND THEN COME BACK AND GIVE BACK.

SO THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE DONE.

AS A RESIDENT OF YOUR NEIGHBORING GREAT CITY OF MELBOURNE.

IS I LEARNED FROM THOSE THOSE OLDER PEOPLE, THOSE SEASONED PEOPLE WHO POURED INTO US, ENCOURAGED US, AND NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF YOUNG PEOPLE, TO SEE THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING POSITIVE OUT OF SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT NEGATIVE AND HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT NEGATIVELY.

BUT WE WANT TO BRIDGE THOSE THINGS AND SHOW HOW IMPACTFUL WE CAN BE WHEN WE COME TOGETHER WITH ONE MIND OF THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT BENEFITS US MOST. THANK YOU MA'AM.

SO I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY MORE QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THIS BEING THAT YOU KNOW THE HISTORY I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE THE MARKETPLACE ASPECT OF IT.

WAS IT PROFITABLE OR WAS IT ALWAYS TRYING TO COMPETE WITH THE LARGER MARKETS? WE SEE A LOT OF SMALL MOM AND POP STORES THAT THEY THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE WALMARTS, AS YOU SO MENTIONED BEFORE.

AND THESE BIG MARKETS.

SO I THINK MY QUESTION SURROUNDS IS MORE TOWARDS WAS THERE EVER A PROFIT MARGIN THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED, OR WAS IT JUST A LOSING BATTLE BECAUSE OF THE COMPETITION OF THOSE BIG MARKETS? SO I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT THE I'M SORRY.

OH, YOU CAN'T HEAR ME. I'M SORRY.

SO WITH THE THE KITCHEN, THE DELI, THAT WAS THE MONEYMAKER.

RIGHT. SO YOU GO AND YOU HAVE YOUR BREAKFAST IN THE MORNING AND SOME PEOPLE WOULD COME IN AND HAVE THEIR LUNCH AS WELL.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS BRINGING IN MOST OF THE BUSINESS BECAUSE OF COVID.

AND I LOVE TO I LOVE HOW LYNN EXPLAINS IT AS THE PERFECT STORM.

WE OPENED THE STORE.

PEOPLE HAD TO GET USED TO EVANS BEING THERE WHEN WALMART GROCERY STORE HAD BEEN DOWN THE STREET WITH HIS, WHICH IS WITHIN A MILE.

I DID A MARKET RESEARCH MYSELF, AND WHEN I LOOKED AT ALL OF THE MARKET LITTLE MARKETS, FOODS, IT WAS A TON OF THEM, RIGHT? BUT WHAT STOOD OUT WITH EVANS IS WE HAD THAT HOMETOWN FEEL PEOPLE COULD COME IN.

THEY RECOGNIZED YOU.

OH, YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SHRIMP AND GRITS AGAIN OR ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE AND THAT WAS YOU DON'T GET THAT WHEN YOU GO TO WALMART.

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT RIGHT.

SO WHEN IT CAME TO THE MARKET, THERE WAS SOME STRUGGLE THERE WITH TRYING TO SOURCE.

SO THAT IS WHAT MADE THE MARKET NOT AS STRONG AS GOING TO THE WALMART RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.

BUT THAT DELI WAS THE GEM.

SO THE DELI WAS THE PROFIT MAKER, AND THEN YOU LOST ON THE MARKET SIDE, THE GROCERIES, SO TO SPEAK, IS THAT AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT? I WOULD SAY YOU'RE.

BREAKING EVEN.

THERE JUST WASN'T A PROFIT MARGIN.

SOMETIMES THERE WAS AND SOME OTHER MONTHS IT WASN'T.

BUT WHEN COVID HIT, IT JUST IT WAS JUST THE PERFECT STORM.

AWESOME. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH. CARRY ON. COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. YOU KNOW, I LIKE WHAT YOU SAID BECAUSE I BOUGHT THINGS OUT OF THAT STORE AND YOUR PRICES WAS NOT HIGH.

IT WAS REASONABLE.

BUT BUT YOU DIDN'T OVERPRICE PEOPLE.

AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY.

I SEEN HOW THE SENIORS SHOWED UP BEFORE COVID OR AFTER COVID THAT HAVE THE SENIORS USED THAT, THAT EVIDENCE CENTERS AND AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT.

AND REALLY, YOU HELPED THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT Y'ALL TRIED TO DO.

BUT, MISTER EVANS.

WAS A COMMUNITY LEADER AND A HISTORICAL FIGURE IN THAT AREA.

WHAT YOU SAY? OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD TO THE QUESTIONS, AND YOU KNOW COMMENTS YOU GUYS ALREADY MADE.

I PERSONALLY AS WELL LIKE COUNCILMAN FOSTER, I'VE MADE SEVERAL TRIPS THERE.

YOU KNOW, MY OFFICE IS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET AS WELL, SO I DID EVERYTHING I COULD TO, TO SUPPORT I EVEN LANDED MY HELP, MY EXPERTISE WHEN IT COMES TO SUPERMARKET AND SO ON, AND SEVERAL MEETING WITH LYNN AND TRY TO HELP OUT AND SEE HOW WE

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BUT, YOU KNOW, NUMBERS SOMETIMES THEY JUST JUST NOT THERE.

YOU MENTIONED QUITE A FEW DIFFERENT AREA.

AND, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF AS WELL.

AND, AND THAT BRINGS THE QUESTION TO THE SURVEY.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT.

SO KIND OF WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE SURVEY WHEN IT WAS DATED.

SO MY, MY CONCERN IS IF IT WAS AS RECENT AS 23.

RIGHT. SO IF YOU WOULD BREAK IT DOWN, THE COMMUNITIES TELLING US WHAT THEY WANTED.

BUT THAT'S WHAT THE CENTER GAVE OVER THE YEARS.

AND I DO GET COVID AND SO ON.

IT'S ALMOST I'M A BIT CONFLICTED IN TERMS OF YOU TELLING US YOU WANT FRESH FRUIT, YOU WANT A MARKET, YOU WANT THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER IN THAT ORDER. BUT YET IT DIDN'T FOR 5 OR 6, SEVEN YEARS WE COULDN'T SUSTAIN AS A AS A MODEL.

THE MODEL DIDN'T WORK.

COVID CERTAINLY.

THERE'S NO DOUBT.

BUT THE MODEL DID NOT WORK.

SO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, RIGHT.

SO I'M LOOKING AT STRICTLY THE, THE BUSINESS ASPECT OF THINGS AND LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS THAT DID IT.

YOU KNOW, THE SURVEYS SAY ONE THING AND THAT'S WHAT WAS GIVEN.

WHY DID IT NOT SUCCEED? SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET THAT SINK IN AND COPY THAT.

AND DEFINITELY I MEAN, AND CERTAINLY ALL DECISION TODAY IS JUST TO MOVE FORWARD HOW THE CITY GOING MOVE FORWARD.

SO THAT'S FOR US TO GUIDE OUR DECISION.

THESE FOLKS DID THEIR THING.

AND I APPLAUD YOUR SERVICES AND WHAT YOU GUYS DID YOUR TIME AND AND CERTAINLY WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS WILL STAY TO THE SERVICE OF THE COMMUNITY.

WHATEVER SHAPE, SHAPE OR FORM, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL EVER BE A MARKET AGAIN.

BUT JUST I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND AND WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

I WILL SHARE THIS, AND I'LL BE IN TOTAL TRANSPARENCY.

I USED TO GO TO THE EVANS CENTER.

I WAS A LOTTERY MARKETING REPRESENTATIVE IN THE 90S, AND THEY WERE ONE OF MY GOOD, GOOD CUSTOMERS.

RETAIL WISE, THEY WE WERE ABLE TO SELL PLENTY OF LOTTERY TICKETS THERE.

AND THEN I EVOLVED TO SERVE AS AN AIDE TO A BREVARD COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

AND DURING THAT TIME, DENISE CARTER AND MYSELF WE WORKED CLOSELY REGARDING THE COMMUNITY.

DENISE, BACK IN THOSE DAYS WAS BLESSED WITH ME TO WORK FOR BREVARD COUNTY AS WELL.

AND PART OF THAT, I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSION OF THAT COMMUNITY ACTION GROUP THAT REALLY MOTIVATED THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND GET THE EVANS CENTER, SAVE IT DURING THE EARLY 2000.

SO I KNOW, I KNOW A BIG HISTORY OF THAT AND I KNOW THE VALUE.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'VE TAPPED INTO THAT.

THE VALUE OF THAT EVANS CENTER TO THAT COMMUNITY.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START LOOKING AT HOW WE EXPAND THAT VALUE.

HOW CAN WE ENHANCE THAT VALUE? IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING OF SO MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. I WILL SHARE IN TOTAL TRANSPARENCY.

MOST, MOST PEOPLE KNOW I COME FROM A DIFFERENT CITY AN INNER CITY WHERE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE SEA CADETS INSTILLED THE DISCIPLINE IN ME.

THE BOYS CLUB, BECAUSE IT WAS BEFORE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE BRONX.

WHICH I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE KNOW, BUT THE BRONX, IN THE SOUTH BRONX IN PARTICULAR.

AND THEY PROVIDED A VENUE AND AVENUE FOR THIS CHILD.

YES. I'M. I'M STILL STILL YOUNG.

TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AND AND JUST BUILD MY LIFE THAT WAY HELPED ME WITH THROUGH EDUCATION.

IT WAS ONLY DONE BECAUSE OF SPORTS.

IT WAS ONLY DONE BECAUSE OF MENTORSHIP.

THE SEA CADETS INSTILL A DISCIPLINE IN ME THAT I WANTED TO PURSUE IN THE MARINE CORPS.

IT ALSO PUT ME WITH MENTORS, VETERANS THAT POINTED ME TOWARDS THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO. I MENTION ALL OF THAT BECAUSE I WANTED COUNCIL TO HEAR MY HEART.

AS FAR AS THE VALUE THAT THIS CAN BRING TOWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I BELIEVE IN THAT.

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AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT MELBOURNE, POWELL PALM BAY POWELL.

WE'VE HAD SO MANY DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB THAT INSTILLED THE CLUB ESTEEM IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY THAT CAN LITERALLY SAVE A LIFE IN IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT OTHERWISE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF MENTORSHIP.

SO THAT I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT BECAUSE THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I, I KNOW IS BEYOND THE, THE DOLLARS AND CENTS THAT DEPUTY MAYOR YOU WERE BRINGING UP BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW.

HEY, YOU KNOW COUNCILMAN FOSTER SAID I LOVED EATING THERE, RIGHT? I LOVED LUNCH, I LOVED EATING THERE, AND THE DELI WAS MARKETABLE.

BUT THE OTHER ASPECT TO IT WAS NOT.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE MY HEART IN THIS BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO SPEAKERS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, MAN, THAT I, I'VE BEEN PLUGGED INTO THE COMMUNITY FOR FOR DECADES.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE 90S.

AND AND MISS CARTER COULD VOUCH FOR THAT.

SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YES, SIR. CARRY ON.

OH, YOU HAD SOMETHING? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AS YOU WERE.

IT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, LET ME JUST SORT OF ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.

AS VAL HINTED DURING COVID, THE DELI WAS PROFITABLE, BUT THE MARKET WASN'T.

ONCE AGAIN, WE WERE IN A PERIOD OF SERIOUS HIGH INFLATION.

A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TOLD US THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WASN'T ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE OF UNFORTUNATELY, INFLATION.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WAS, WHY WOULD I GO AND, YOU KNOW, TO TO EVAN'S STORE AND SHOP WHEN I COULD JUST GO TO NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART AND GET EVERYTHING I NEED IN A ONE STOP SHOP.

RIGHT. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION JUST AT THE PARTICULAR TIME FRAME THAT WE WERE IN.

BUT ALSO TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR WHEN THE RESURGENCE OF EVANS CENTER CAME BACK, THERE WAS REALLY THIS HOLISTIC APPROACH TO IT, RIGHT? CHURCHES WERE INVOLVED.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD STATED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, RIGHT, WAS THAT WE WOULD NOT SELL ALCOHOL, YOU WOULD NOT DO LOTTERY TICKETS.

AND SO NOT SAYING THAT THAT IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO THE STORE FOR ANYWAY.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ALSO THOSE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE IT NOT REALLY WORKING IN THE SENSE THEY WERE JUST A NUMBER OF FACTORS THAT YOU HAVE TO LAY OUT ON THE TABLE TO CONSIDER AS TO WHY THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS MODEL DID NOT WORK AT THAT PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME.

NOT SAYING THAT IT WON'T WORK GOING FORWARD.

HOPEFULLY WE'RE ON THE BETTER END OF THE ECONOMY.

AND THINGS ARE JUST GETTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES ON THE TABLE.

BUT BUT ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE VALUE OF IT PROFIT.

DJ QUIK SAID IF IT DOESN'T MAKE DOLLARS, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND ALSO, IT'S GREATLY TO CONSIDER THAT THE CITY IS GETTING A BUILDING LESS.

IT'S FOR LESS THAN HALF ITS VALUE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

CARRY ON. SIR. YES, SIR.

I'M JUST. I'M STILL LAUGHING ABOUT THE LYRICS.

THAT WAS. THAT WAS SMOOTH.

JORDAN. I HAD TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.

I. AND I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL.

BUT TO COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX'S POINT WHEN WE'RE TALKING, TALKING ABOUT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PARAMETERS, DIFFERENT VARIABLES, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT WAS THE LEASE WITH BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE AND I LOOKED AT THE AMOUNT OF 1100 YOU KNOW, BACK IN NOVEMBER 2022 AND I JUST, I FEEL AND I WANT TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM OTHERS.

I FEEL THAT NUMBER IS A LITTLE LOW, YOU KNOW, FOR WHAT THAT AREA.

WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT THAT COULD BE? I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD, I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE'RE AT A, YOU KNOW, A REASONABLE RATE.

BUT IF Y'ALL WANT TO SPEAK ON IT, YOU CAN.

BUT THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT TO PUT OUT THERE, BECAUSE I HEARD WHERE DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX WAS GOING, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK, JUST PUBLICLY, DOES THIS CONTRACT INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, ITEMS WITHIN THE BUILDING?

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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BOARD OBVIOUSLY CONSIDERED WAS, IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE CITY TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE CONTRACTUAL NEGOTIATION PROCESS, THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S SOMETHING ON THE TABLE.

THE BOARD, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR FROM OUR MEETING THAT THE FIXTURES, SUCH AS THE ITEMS THAT BELONG IN THE KITCHEN AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IF YOU DECIDE TO TO LEASE TO ANOTHER NONPROFIT WHO CAN PROVIDE THOSE PARTICULAR SERVICES WE THINK THAT IT WOULD NOT BE FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY HAVE TO ACQUIRE THOSE.

AND SO THOSE PARTICULAR ITEMS, SUCH AS THE FIXTURES IN THE KITCHEN, THE COMMERCIAL OVEN, ALL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE A PART OF THE FACILITY.

NOW, THERE WERE SOME OTHER PARTICULAR ITEMS SUCH AS TVS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT WAS OUR DESIRE AND IN OUR INTEREST TO POTENTIALLY SEE IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER NONPROFITS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO COULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING THOSE ITEMS. BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION THE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN STUFF.

YES. WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

THAT WOULD STAY THERE IN THE FACILITY.

BUT SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH THE CITY, IF YOU MOVE FORWARD TO SEE IF SOME OF THE OTHER NONPROFITS WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING THOSE.

THANK YOU, SIR, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER ELABORATELY.

SO, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK INTO TO THAT, YOU KNOW, UTILIZING THAT, WHO KNOWS? YOU KNOW, WHATEVER NONPROFIT MIGHT GO IN, THEY MIGHT BE DOING CULINARY CLASSES OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE OR PROVIDING THE SAME THING.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR HOT FOODS.

SO I DON'T WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT RIGHT THERE READY FOR THEM UPON, YOU KNOW, LIKE TURNKEY.

I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GIVE IT UP IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IT.

SO I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE INCLUDED WITH STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE AS WELL.

SO WE JUST WORKED THROUGH IT.

EVERYBODY WINS, THE COMMUNITY WINS, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU TOUCHED ON THAT BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE.

WHAT WHAT WHAT ARE THEY PROVIDING THERE? IS IT MORE CONFERENCE SPACE OR ARE THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDING MEDICAL SERVICES FOR THE CITIZENS? THEY ARE PROVIDING MEDICAL SERVICES.

YEAH. SO IT IS A PARTNERSHIP.

YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE'S A THERE'S AN INTANGIBLE VALUE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING.

THERE'S STILL $1,100, BUT MOST PEOPLE WON'T DON'T HAVE THAT HEALTH INSURANCE THAT THEY COULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY? SO BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IS THEY DO ACCEPT SOME INSURANCES, BUT THEY DO HAVE MORE PEOPLE WITH A SLIDING SCALE.

SO IF THEY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO TO BREVARD HEALTH ALLIANCE AND AT LEAST GET THOSE PRIMARY CARE VISITS COMPLETED AND REFERRALS.

AND ARE THEY THERE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR IS IT JUST SPECIFICALLY CERTAIN DAYS A WEEK? I BELIEVE IT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

YES, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

OKAY. SO THERE'S A VALUE TO THAT.

SO I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE VALUE IS CORRECT.

YES. SO THAT'S ALL. YES SIR I GOT YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SO SPEAKER, SPEAKER CARDS.

NUMBER FOUR. IS IT FOR MR. BATTEN? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. THE EVENT CENTER IS ANOTHER IDENTITY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT WAS A GOODWILL GESTURE TYPE APPROACH, WHICH IS A LOT OF WHAT THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS ARE BY MY STANDARD.

I UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THAT THEY CARRY, BUT IT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER IDENTITY.

IT WAS ONE OF THE IDENTITIES THAT.

WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO SAY, WHERE DO WE DONATE FUNDS AND MONEY TO THAT WE CONTRIBUTED.

WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WE CONTRIBUTED FUNDS TOWARDS THE EVANS CENTER.

TO HELP THEM SUCCEED.

WELL, HERE WE ARE WITH THE FAILURE.

NOW THAT'S HISTORY.

AND IT'S BEEN A REPEATED HISTORY FAILURE WITHIN THAT IDENTITY.

I'M NOT SAYING GOOD, BAD OR INDIFFERENT.

I'M NOT SAYING IF IT'S A BAD BUSINESS CONCEPT OR WHAT, BUT I'M SAYING THAT WE DID TAKE THE CITY'S MONEY AND WE DID CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THEIR IDENTITY.

RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID.

COULD THIS BUILDING AND LOCATION, THESE FOUR LOTS BE SOLD TO ANOTHER IDENTITY OTHER THAN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? THAT WOULD GENERATE A REVENUE BACK INTO THE CITY AS A BUSINESS, INSTEAD OF A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THAT TAKES MONEY OUT OF THE CITY.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEIR BENEFITS AREN'T WARRANTED, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT SAYING WHAT BRINGS IN THE BOTTOM DOLLAR.

WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO APPLY FOR GRANTS TO HIRE FIREFIGHTERS.

WELL, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT THE PRIORITY OF THE CITY WAS.

SO YOU DECIDE RIGHT NOW.

WHEN THEY START LOOKING AT THE MARKET THAT FAILED.

I UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY CAN'T COMPETE, THEN THE BUSINESS ULTIMATELY FAILS BECAUSE EVENTUALLY PEOPLE WILL START CONTRIBUTING, WILL STOP CONTRIBUTING TOWARD THE

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THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT EVERY CORNER NOW, WE HAVE A DOLLAR GENERAL, AND EVERY ONE OF THE DOLLAR GENERALS IS CURRENTLY CARRYING A MARKET WITHIN THE DOLLAR GENERAL.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE NOW COMPETING AGAINST WITH THAT TYPE OF SETUP WITHIN THIS, IF YOU KEEP THAT SAME PROCESS.

THAT BEING SAID, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN AN ASSET IN IN SOCIETY TYPE APPRECIATION WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BUT FOR THE BUSINESS SIDE OF IT AND FOR THE FINANCIAL IMPACT THAT IT COULD HAVE ON THE CITY, I I'D MUCH RATHER SEE A BUSINESS THERE THAT GENERATES FUNDS COMING BACK TO THE CITY, INSTEAD OF US PAYING OUT IN CHARITABLE MEANS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT FIGURE. THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY. SO, GENTLEMEN I GUESS WELL, BEFORE WE DO A MOTION, HERE'S.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I JUST WANTED TO SHARE.

SHARE A THOUGHT HERE.

I LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR IF WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS, THIS PATH.

TO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT WILL PROVIDE A DISCIPLINE TO.

AND I'M GOING BY MY OWN EXPERIENCES, RIGHT.

I'M GOING BY PROGRAMS THAT WOULD CREATE A DISCIPLINE FOR OUR YOUTH.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE KITCHEN ASPECT OF IT, I UNDERSTAND.

PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, A DELI PORTION OF IT.

BUT PART OF THAT IT BEING A COMMUNITY CENTER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT AT THIS POINT IS TO MOVE FORWARD.

IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT WOULD BE FOR ME MORE OF A COMMUNITY CENTER AND INVESTMENT IN OUR, OUR YOUTH, TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE OF SIMILAR TO A SAFE HAVEN FOR NEIGHBORHOOD INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT TO COME IN AND GET AND PROVIDE MENTORSHIP, THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS THAT CAN LITERALLY CHANGE THE COURSE OF A LIFE AND THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M COMFORTABLE AT.

I'M NOT SURE THE DELI ASPECT OF IT IS, IS A WAY FORWARD WITH THAT SPACE.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS, SEVERAL GROUPS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT WANT TO PARTICIPATE.

WE WE DO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT ARENA.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, CLUB ESTEEM WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT I REMEMBER.

THERE'S SOME LITERACY PROGRAMS THAT THAT CAN PROVIDE SERVICES LIKE THAT.

SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE FOOD ASPECT OF IT.

I WOULD RATHER COUNCIL LOOK AT IT HOLISTICALLY AS.

WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? AND IF WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS PATH, LET US ROLL UP THE SLEEVES, SO TO SPEAK, AND AND ADDRESS WHY WE'RE GOING DOWN THIS PATH.

IT'S TO PROVIDE A VENUE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO GET SERVICES, TO SAVE OUR YOUTH, TO MENTOR OUR YOUTH, TO PROVIDE A VENUE WHERE THESE CHILDREN CAN HAVE A FUTURE SUCH AS MENTORSHIP.

BUT I, I'M WILLING TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON, ON ON THESE THINGS AS WELL.

WELL MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE AND APPROVE A BUDGET ALLOCATION OF 500,000 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO NEGOTIATE A PURCHASE CONTRACT AND CLOSING WITH THE EVANS CENTER INCORPORATED TO ACQUIRE FOUR PARCELS TO INCLUDE ITEMS INSIDE THE EVANS CENTER, NOT TO EXCEED 500,000.

EVEN THE TVS.

OKAY, LIKE I SAID, JUST NEGOTIATIONS TO INCLUDE SECOND.

OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO PIGGYBACK OFF YOU, MAYOR.

BECAUSE I'M IN AGREEMENT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IS SOMETHING SIMILAR.

AND ALSO, LET'S MAKE SURE WE LEARN FROM, YOU KNOW, OUR PREVIOUS HISTORY, BUT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH ARPA FUNDING AND DO, LIKE, JUST LIKE A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PROPERTY, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER NONPROFITS ARE WILLING TO DO OR WHAT THEY CAN DO.

I DO NOT WANT US TO GIVE THIS PROPERTY BACK.

YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE WANT TO LEARN FROM THE PAST, BUT I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT IS JUST, HEY, BRING US YOUR BEST.

SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT, ALL RIGHT? THERE MIGHT BE ONE THAT CAN PROVIDE HOT FOODS.

STILL, THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ONE THAT CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, BUT WE DON'T KNOW UNLESS WE OPEN THE DOOR AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO BRING IN THEIR INPUT AND BRING IN THEIR

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SO I JUST WANT TO BE OPEN WITH IT.

BUT I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE GOT TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO LOOK INTO AND TO MAKE HAPPEN, I'M FOR IT.

OR IF I NEED TO AMEND MY MOTION, I'LL DEFINITELY DO SO TO INCLUDE THAT AS WELL.

BUT I'M RIGHT THERE.

DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU SECOND MOTION.

THANK THANK YOU. MAYOR.

COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON, I THANK YOU.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

AND I THINK THAT'S A FAIR WAY TO GO ABOUT ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE PURCHASE OF THE BUILDING HOW WE UTILIZE IT IS THE IS THE BIG IS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, RIGHT? THAT'S ONE WAY.

AS I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING, I'M THINKING OF ORGANIZATION THAT'S PROVING THAT HAS A PROVEN RECORD NATIONALLY TO TO HAVE A MODEL THAT WORK IS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.

I MEAN, WE HAVE ONE IN THE NEIGHBORING CITY.

ON THE NORTH.

WHY NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION? GET THEM PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.

THEY HAVE A PROVEN MODEL THAT WORKS THAT PRETTY MUCH INCLUDE ALL THE SERVICES.

PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE JUST SHARED HERE.

MAIER YOU SHARE YOUR HEART AS TO WHAT? THAT WHAT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS ALL ABOUT.

SO SOME OF THE SERVICES YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT, WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I THINK THAT SHOULD COULD BE A MODEL THAT WE, WE CONSIDER PUT AN RFP OUT ALSO, MAYBE REACH OUT TO ORGANIZATION THAT WE KNOW THAT HAVE A MODEL THAT'S ALREADY PROVEN TO WORK FOR THE COMMUNITIES THEY IN.

SHOULD PROBABLY REACH OUT TO THEM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. YEAH.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M 100% IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

IT'S PROPER THAT WE SHOULD OWN AND HELP THAT AREA THE YOUTH IN THAT AREA.

IT'S GOT A LONG HISTORY OF HELPING THE YOUTH THAT WAS SPOKEN TO US TODAY.

WE GOT THE HEALTH ALLOWANCE THERE THAT CAN HELP THE CITIZENS.

THE SENIOR CITIZENS OR THE PEOPLE WHO.

EVEN YOUTH WHO DON'T HAVE THE HEALTH INSURANCE OR CAN'T GET A MEDICAL SERVICES THERE'S SO MUCH THINGS WE COULD DO WITH THAT PROPERTY.

I'M NOT. I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE STAFF TO TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS.

I'M NOT GOING TO DICTATE OR SUGGEST, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS AND MAKE IT A POSITIVE.

A POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS, MADAM SHERMAN.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE COMPOUND, LOOK AT THE EXISTING LAND USES, LOOK AT SOME IDEAS FOR DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.

AND SO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

BRENDA DEFOE SUPERNANT IS HERE.

SUPERNA. THANK YOU, I TRIED.

WE WELCOME HER TO PRESENT THIS ITEM FOR US.

AND THEN FOLLOWING HER PRESENTATION, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER CARLA BROWN WILL POTENTIALLY ADD SOME OTHER COMMENTS AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. IS THE IS IT GOING TO BE DISPLAYED? OKAY. SO.

AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, MY NAME IS BRENDA DAFOE.

SUPERNAUT I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING FOR THE CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

WE ARE.

OH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'LL PROBABLY USE THIS ONE.

I'M ACTUALLY HERE ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUE, LUIS RIVAS.

HE'S HE'S THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY AUTHORED THIS STUDY.

AND AT THE END OF THIS SLIDE HIS INFORMATION IS THERE.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, I WOULD DEFER TO HIM ON THOSE.

SO TO BEGIN I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE CONTEXT, THE METHODOLOGY, AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE REPORT.

SO AS I SAID, I'M FROM THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.

IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH US, WE ARE ONE OF TEN REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCILS IN THE STATE.

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GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE DO A LOT OF REPORTS LIKE THESE, BUT WE ALSO DO THINGS LIKE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

WE OFFER A LOT OF VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS.

YOU ARE THE RECIPIENT OF ONE OF THOSE VULNERABILITY ASSESSMENTS AS WELL.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF WORK AND STUDIES THAT WE TAKE PART IN.

SO THE CONTEXT FOR THE COMPOUND IS ONE THAT IS NOT UNIQUE TO PALM BAY.

THERE ARE SEVERAL LARGE PRE PLATTED COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SOME OF THE LARGEST ONES ARE NOTED ON THE SLIDE, AND THEY INCLUDE CAPE CORAL, LEHIGH ACRES IN LEE COUNTY, AND THE MURDOCK VILLAGE COMMUNITY IN CHARLOTTE.

THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL CONDUCTED A LITERATURE REVIEW AND FOUND THAT ALL THESE COMMUNITIES ARE STILL STRUGGLING TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS. SO THE EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE INCLUDE THESE PRE-PLOTTED PROPERTIES.

AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THEY WERE DEVELOPED USING A CURVILINEAR STREET PATTERN AND THAT IMPEDES EFFICIENT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT LOTS.

IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO NORTH SOUTH CONNECTIONS WITHIN THE AREA.

THE CONSEQUENCE IS THAT LARGE PORTIONS OF THE DEVELOPMENT ARE ISOLATED FROM THE REST OF THE CITY.

THERE ARE OVER 2700 UNIQUE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE COMPOUND, AND THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS LESS THAN AN ACRE, AND THE PARCEL OWNERSHIP IS SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PLAT, WHICH LIMITS OPPORTUNITIES FOR LOT AGGREGATION.

AND SOME OF THAT CAN BE SEEN ON THE GRAPHIC ON THE SCREEN.

OKAY. SO BASED ON THESE EXISTING CONDITIONS, THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL DEVELOPED A CONCEPT PLAN AND FOCUSED ON FOUR MAJOR AREAS.

ONE OF THOSE IS THE AVAILABILITY OF LARGE PARCELS.

THE OTHER IS THE CONTINUOUS PROPERTY OWNERSHIP.

THE OTHER IS SURROUNDING LAND USES.

AND WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO CONNECT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BASED ON THIS METHODOLOGY? THERE WERE THREE MAIN FOCUS AREAS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, AND THAT INFORMED THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE LATER SLIDE.

OKAY. SO IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT, ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES IS TO DEVELOP A NEW DEVELOP A NEW EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST SUITABLE AREA FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT CONTAINS SEVERAL LARGE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY OWNERS OR SEVERAL LARGE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTIES OWNED BY A FEW PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

J. J.

BOMBARDIER BOULEVARD PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS TO SEVERAL OF THESE PROPERTIES, AND THERE ARE UTILITY CONNECTIONS NEARBY AN INDUSTRIAL USER.

BRP IS ALREADY LOCATED IN THIS AREA.

OKAY. ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOCUSES ON CONSERVATION.

THE WEST SIDE OF THE COMPOUND IS PROBABLY MOST INACCESSIBLE IN THE PLATS.

THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNER IS MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, WHICH OWNS ABOUT 247 ACRES.

MOST OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE WETLANDS THAT PROTECT THE CITY FROM HEAVY FLOODING.

THE AREA IS ALREADY BOUNDED BY THREE FORKS CONSERVATION AREA ON THE WEST AND AGO AGRICULTURAL LAND ON THE SOUTH.

SO BASED ON THESE CHARACTERISTICS, THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THIS IS DESIGNATED AS A CONSERVATION AREA.

IT WOULD PROVIDE RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY'S RESIDENTS, INCLUDING WALKING TRAILS, BIKING, CAMPING, AND OTHER SIMILAR ACTIVITIES.

POSITION OF THE. THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY INVOLVES MIXED USE CENTERS.

AGAIN, BECAUSE ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS THE LACK OF THE NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION.

WORKING WITH DOT WOULD PROBABLY BE INTEGRAL TO THIS PLAN.

OR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'D WANT TO DO THERE IS POTENTIALLY EXPAND SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

WE ALSO COMPARED HOW THE PROPOSED ROUTES WOULD ALIGN WITH THE, THE COMPOUND.

AND SO IF A ROAD WERE TO BE BUILT, IT WOULD OPEN POTENTIALLY TWO NEW AREAS FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE BLOCK OF PROPERTIES LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY ALREADY OWNS SEVERAL LARGE PARCELS THAT COMPRISE ABOUT 15 ACRES OF LAND WITHIN THIS OPPORTUNITY.

AND IT COULD SERVE AS AN EXPANSION FOR THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT INDUSTRIAL CENTER.

THERE WOULD POTENTIALLY ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REDEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COMPOUND.

THE BIGGEST PARCEL IS 47 ACRES AND OWNED BY POLONIUM ASSOCIATES, AND THE CITY OWNS ABOUT 33 ACRES, DIVIDED ACROSS 15

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SO THAT RECOMMENDATION WOULD INVOLVE LOOKING AT THE LARGE CITY OWNED PARCELS AND MOVING THEM TO INDUSTRIAL, POTENTIALLY.

ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO FOCUS ON EFFORTS TO ACQUIRE SMALLER LOTS WITHIN THE VICINITY OF BOMBARDIER BOULEVARD.

THIS WOULD HELP PROTECT THE INDUSTRIAL PARK FROM RESIDENTIAL INTRUSION.

SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE IN THIS AREA, SO IF THEY WERE ESTABLISHED, THEY WOULD HINDER THE THE AREA'S POTENTIAL AS AN EMPLOYMENT CENTER.

ACQUIRING THESE LOTS WOULD ALSO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR THE DESIGN OF THE NEW INDUSTRIAL PARK.

TO ASSIST WITH THE PROCESS, THE CITY JOINED THE RBC IN APPLYING FOR AN EPA BROWNFIELDS ASSESSMENT GRANT.

IF FUNDED, THE GRANT WOULD HELP ASSESS THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT PROPERTIES FOR CONTAMINATION, AND THE THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL COULD ALSO POTENTIALLY LOOK FOR OTHER GRANTS TO SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

AND IN THE IN THE FUTURE, THE CITY SHOULD ALSO CONSIDER LEVERAGING THE LAND IT OWNS TO RECRUIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FIRM THAT WOULD HELP OPERATE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER CONSIDERATION WITHIN THAT CORRIDOR.

FOR THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSERVATION.

THE RPC RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY PARTNER WITH THE WATER THE WATER, TILLMAN DISTRICT AND OTHER ENTITIES TO CONTINUE ACQUIRING ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE LANDS.

AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, SOME OF THESE LANDS ALREADY HELPED WITH FLOODING.

I KNOW THAT'S A BIG ISSUE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

AND SO THAT'S ONE WAY YOU COULD DO THAT.

AS A POLICY MEASURE, THE CITY SHOULD ALSO INCORPORATE THIS AREA INTO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HELP WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLANNING AND MEETING RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO PROTECT PROPERTY RIGHTS.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO EXPLORE THE ADOPTION OF TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, TDRS AND ORDINANCE TO DO THAT MIGHT HELP, AND IT WOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY ALLOW THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNERS TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN OTHER SECTIONS OF THE COMPOUND THAT ARE BETTER SUITED FOR DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS MIXED USE DISTRICTS OR THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER EXPANSION.

AND SO.

FOR THE MIXED USE AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER EXPANSION.

THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO COORDINATE WITH DOT AGAIN.

THERE'S ALSO IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THERE'S NO INFRASTRUCTURE TO KIND OF SUSTAIN THE CURRENT LAND USE PATTERN.

SO AGAIN, PARTNERING WITH DOT WOULD HELP WITH THAT.

THE SPACE COAST TPO AND THAT WOULD HELP FAST TRACK DEVELOPMENT OF SAINT JOHN OR SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

YOU'D ALSO NEED TO DECIDE WHERE TO DESIGNATE LAND FOR UTILITIES SUCH AS FPL, POTENTIALLY SUBSTATION TO BRING ELECTRICITY TO THE AREA.

AND ONE OF THE WAYS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY FOR ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE TO ESTABLISH A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT OR COMMUNITY DISTRICT WITHIN THE MIXED USE DISTRICT.

BOTH OF THEM WOULD NEED APPROVAL FROM THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNERS.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.

AS I SAID, I'M GIVING THIS ON BEHALF OF LUIS NIEVES RUIZ.

HE IS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.

I DEFER TO THE CITY AT THIS TIME.

AND IF YOU DO HAVE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, LUIS WOULD BE THE ONE TO ASK.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. YES, WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU THANK LUIS FOR US.

I THINK SHE WANTS US TO ASK TECHNICAL QUESTIONS TO LUIS, BUT, I MEAN, I WOULD DO MY BEST, BUT HE'S REALLY THE ONE WHO DUG INTO THE WEEDS OF THIS, SO I CAN'T. I WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OFFER YOU VERY SPECIFIC ANSWERS.

OUTSIDE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

YEAH. RIGHT.

SO I WOULD AGAIN, I WOULD DEFER TO THE CITY STAFF AND WHAT IS FEASIBLE WITHIN YOUR, YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. OKAY.

I'LL REENGAGE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, BUT I'M ENCOURAGED BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON.

CITY INITIATED REZONING LOOKING AT INDUSTRIAL PARKS OR FLEX USE.

I REMEMBER PREVIOUS COUNCIL, I BROUGHT IT UP.

YOU KNOW, THAT PALM BAY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE A SILICON VALLEY, AND THAT COUNCIL LAUGHED AT ME.

AND I STILL SEE IT AS POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, RIGHT HERE, LIKE, YES, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE INDUSTRY IN OUR BACKYARD, BUT THEY NEED A PLACE TO BUILD.

NOT YET, YOU KNOW.

NOT YET EXACTLY.

THEY NEED A PLACE TO BUILD.

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THIS IS THE PERFECT OPPORTUNITY.

ONE THING TWO THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FPL.

WE ALREADY HAVE SOLAR FARMS HERE.

WAS THAT SOMETHING DISCUSSED EITHER BY STAFF OR.

THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO BRING UP SOLAR FARMS. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS WE SPOKE ABOUT OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

AND THE COMPOUND WAS ONE BEING, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY LOOKED AT AND I, WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WENT UP THERE TO DC AS WELL, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX AND OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER WENT UP THERE, BUT SO DID MEMBERS FROM THE EDC.

THEY WENT UP THERE AND ALSO KIND OF ADVOCATED ON PERMITS BEHALF OF THE COMPOUND BEING AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE AS WELL.

I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, SIR, BUT COULD YOU SPEAK ON THAT AND HOW THOSE DISCUSSIONS WENT? BECAUSE I THINK THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE REST OF COUNCIL TO KNOW SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD COLLECTIVELY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

SO THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO GOOD EVENING.

I GUESS WHAT I SHOULD SAY CAN WE DO THIS RIGHT, DAVID, STATE YOUR NAME? YES, SIR. YEAH. DAVID JONES 1107 MERRICK AVENUE.

YOU CAN BRING UP THE WHOLE PODIUM.

IT SAYS HEIGHT.

JUST JUST PUSH THE.

YEAH. THERE YOU GO.

FANCY. YES.

SO AT THE CHAMBER, WE HAVE TO LEAN OVER.

WE DON'T HAVE SO YES, WE SPOKE.

I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE GREATER PALM BEACH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

AND I ALSO SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR THE SPACE COAST, REPRESENTING THE PALM BAY CHAMBER.

AND WE RECENTLY WENT TO WASHINGTON, DC TO ADVOCATE ON CONTINUING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ARE HEAVILY FAVORED TO BRING INDUSTRIES INTO THE SPACE COAST.

AND WE CONTINUE THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH IN PALM BAY.

IS IS INSTRUMENTAL INTO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT NOT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS IN THAT SPACE.

AND SO WHILE WE HAD OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE WERE UP THERE FOR SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OPERATE AS A CHAMBER AND DO IS WE LIKE TO ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS AND BEING THAT YOU ALL ARE SUCH AMAZING MEMBERS OF OURS FOR THE THE CHAMBER CITY MANAGER, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH SOME INFORMATION FOR US TO GO AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF FOR THE CITY.

WE MET WITH GOVERNOR SCOTT RUBIO AND CONGRESSMAN POSEY'S TEAM.

JUST TO YOU MEAN SENATOR SCOTT.

CORRECT. SORRY.

I SAID GOVERNOR, DIDN'T I KNOW? THERE YOU GO. MAY KNOW SENATOR SCOTT, SENATOR RUBIO AND CONGRESSMAN POSEY'S TEAM JUST TO LET THEM KNOW THAT FROM THE FROM THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY'S PERSPECTIVE WE DO BELIEVE THAT THEM SUPPORTING LEGISLATION TO TURN THESE AREAS INTO AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

AND THEY WERE VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WAS BEHIND YOUR EFFORTS AS WELL.

SO IT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A MEETING COMING UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO DISCUSS FURTHER MORE IN DETAIL TO WHAT THOSE CONVERSATIONS LOOK LIKE AND AS WELL AS HOW CAN THE CHAMBER CONTINUE TO SUPPORT YOU ALL AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF WHAT MAKES SENSE TO GROW OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH PART OF THE COUNTY? YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL I THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. JONES. THANKS FOR STEPPING UP ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE, SIR.

APPRECIATE YOU. APPRECIATE YOU.

COUNCIL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF OUR PRESENTER? NO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE REALIZE THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO.

IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT RESILIENCE.

I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS ALL DAY ABOUT THAT.

BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS LUIS'S JAM, SO I DEFER TO HIM.

YES, MA'AM. YES.

THANK YOU. YES.

ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHY I REMEMBERED YOU FROM THE MIRROR, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. YEAH. JUST CLICKED FOR ME, TOO.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

SO NOW COUNCIL PART OF THIS, MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO.

GO INTO YOUR PRESENTATION? WELL, ACTUALLY, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO JOAN TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGHLIGHT OF SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

EVENING AGAIN. COUNCIL, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS STUDY.

SO IN EARLY 2022, THE CITY HAD REQUESTED A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL TO CONDUCT AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN CITYWIDE.

AND THAT STRATEGIC PLAN FOCUSED ON SEVERAL AREAS THROUGH THE CITY WHERE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH IS PRIME.

WHAT IT DIDN'T COVER IN GREAT DETAIL WAS THE COMPOUND.

AND AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST, WE WENT FORWARD AND REQUESTED AN ADDENDUM TO PARTICULARLY STUDY THE AREA OF THE COMPOUND.

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IT'S PROVIDED KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE LAND USE ANALYSIS REPORT OF THE AREA KNOWN AS THE COMPOUND, WHICH IS PORT MALABAR UNITS 5152, 53.

AND THE REPORT AND THE TASK ORDER COVERS SEVERAL AREAS.

THAT'S THE EXISTING LAND USE ANALYSIS, THE CASE STUDY ANALYSIS, LOOKING AT VARIOUS AREAS THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGES AND THEN PROVIDED FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS AND A REPORT.

SO A LOT OF WHAT WE SAW IN THE EXISTING USES AND THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF THE STUDY ARE MUCH OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY COVERED AT THE MARCH 2023 COUNCIL WORKSHOP, WHICH IS A VARIETY OF CHALLENGES THAT SPAN FROM THINGS LIKE ACCESS TO THE COMPOUND, LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, UTILITIES, ELECTRICAL A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT LANDOWNERS.

I THINK IT'S 2700 UNIQUE LANDOWNERS IN THE COMPOUND SPANNING OVER 4900, NEARLY 5000 PROPERTIES IN THE COMPOUND.

SO A LOT OF THAT WAS WAS COVERED IN THE STUDY AS WELL, THAT MUCH OF THAT WE ALREADY KNEW WHAT THE REPORT YIELDED, WHICH AGAIN, COVERS A LOT OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST WORKSHOP, BUT REINFORCES MUCH OF WHAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH.

IT TALKS ABOUT A VARIETY OF RECOMMENDATIONS THAT GET US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, TO WHERE WE'D LIKE TO BE, WHICH IS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COMPOUND IN SUCH A WAY THAT BRINGS MORE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, AND THEN ALSO PLAYS TO THE STRENGTHS OF THE COMPOUND IN TERMS OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATIONAL USE.

AND SO JUST TO SUMMARIZE REALLY QUICKLY A BULLET LIST OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE STUDY THROUGH THE VARIOUS QUADRANTS.

THOSE INCLUDE THE LAND ENTITLEMENT CHANGES, CITY INITIATED ADMINISTRATIVE ZONING OF PARCELS LAND ACQUISITION, SPECIFICALLY ALONG A BOMBARDIER BOMBARDIER BOULEVARD SOUTHWEST TARGETED INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE SAME CORRIDOR.

ADOPTION OF A TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS ORDINANCE.

DEDICATION OF LAND FOR A FUTURE FPL SUBSTATION.

ESTABLISHMENT OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT INCORPORATING THE WESTERNMOST SEGMENTS OF THE COMPOUND IN THE PARKS MASTER PLAN TO MEET OUR CONCURRENCY FOR OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION IN OUR COMP PLAN.

AND COORDINATION WITH THE REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL ON BROWNFIELDS ASSESSMENT GRANT TO HELP NOT ONLY TO HELP US ASSESS OUR PROPERTIES, TO ALSO INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP IN THE COMPOUND BY HELPING PROVIDE A PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL SITE ASSESSMENT.

ADDITIONALLY, IT'S IT RECOMMENDS CONTINUING TO FAST TRACK OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH FDOT AND SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION FOR THE FUTURE SOUTHWARD EXTENSION OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

LEVERAGING CITY LAND TO RECRUIT DEVELOPMENT FIRM TO CREATE AND OPERATE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.

AND ANOTHER ITEM THAT WASN'T REALLY TOUCHED IN THE STUDY, BUT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST AND WE'RE WILLING TO EXPLORE IN CONVERSATION TONIGHT IS EMINENT DOMAIN. AND SO WITH THAT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

SO, MAMA, I JUST WANTED TO.

I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, RIGHT.

IN PARTICULAR, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE GRANTS FOR BROWNFIELD OPPORTUNITIES WHERE OTHER COMPANIES WON'T HAVE TO INVEST IN THAT IF WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT STUDY.

SO THAT THAT WOULD BE ENTICING TO BUSINESSES AS WELL.

SO THAT THAT'S WHAT'S MOTIVATING ME.

REGARDING THIS, AS FAR AS EVERYTHING ON THAT LIST SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN APPROACH THAT WE NEED TO.

IT'S A TOOL IN OUR BELT, SO TO SPEAK.

AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THE MORE TOOLS WE HAVE, THE, THE, THE GREATER OPPORTUNITY IS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY START GEARING SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARK IN THAT, IN THAT AVENUE, AND YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.

AND IF WE START BUILDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S GOING TO START COMING OUT.

YES, SIR. YEAH.

IT'S FIELD OF DREAMS, BUT I BELIEVE IN THAT.

SO I'M I'M REALLY MOTIVATED ABOUT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

I WON'T EVEN ELIMINATE ANY OF THOSE.

THEY SHOULD ALL BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT IS A TOOL IN OUR BELT TO MOVE FORWARD WITHIN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ON YOU TOUCHED ABOUT IT AND BUILDING AN INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE'VE GOT THE LAND WHERE WE COULD LISTEN.

WE WE COULD. NASA IS GOING TO TAP PALM BAY FOR OUR MISSION TO MARS.

RIGHT. SO I THINK THIS IS BUILDING, GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, CREATING JOBS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PALM BAY MEYERS LIVE, WORK AND PLAY RIGHT HERE IN THIS GREAT CITY.

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I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT IN THIS.

AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS ULTIMATELY A GOAL TO CREATE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S SO NEEDED OUT THERE.

WE AND I SAID THIS BEFORE, MA'AM, I SAID THE ONUS IS ON US.

WE OWN THAT PROPERTY. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT WAYS TO ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO TO COME, BUT WE SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT WE OWN OUT THERE.

AND, AND THAT THIS IS A STEP IN THAT DIRECTION.

GENTLEMEN, THIS IS HOW MY THOUGHTS ARE ON THAT.

I HAVE SOME. YES, SIR.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON EMINENT DOMAIN? HOW WOULD THAT PLAY A PART IN? BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF PROPERTY OUT THERE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE KNOWLEDGE I HAVE, BUT I WOULD ULTIMATELY LIKE TO LEAN ON OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE GREATER INPUT ON THE MECHANISMS OF GETTING TO THAT POINT AND THE THE DUE PROCESS THAT'S INVOLVED.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO EMINENT DOMAIN, CERTAINLY HAVE YOU CAN'T JUST ACQUIRE YOU CAN'T JUST OBTAIN OTHER PRIVATE PROPERTIES FOR ANY PURPOSE. IT MUST PROVIDE A PUBLIC PURPOSE.

AND WE COULD LOOK AT AND JUST TO USE AN EXAMPLE, THE SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ALONG BOMBARDIER THAT ARE WHERE THE UTILITIES DEAD ENDS.

IF WE WERE TO TO OBTAIN THOSE PARCELS, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH EMINENT DOMAIN OR OTHERWISE, YOU COULD USE THAT FOR RIGHT OF WAY EXPANSION UTILITIES.

THAT'S A THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A PUBLIC BENEFIT.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF A WAY WE COULD USE EMINENT DOMAIN.

BEYOND THAT, I HESITATE TO ANSWER.

ANY MORE ON EMINENT DOMAIN.

CITY ATTORNEY, CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT? OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN FLORIDA, WE'VE AFTER CATO AS FAR AS UNITED STATES CASE LAW ALLOWED EMINENT DOMAIN TO BE USED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE ELIMINATION OF BLIGHT.

IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH REALLY HOW FLORIDA LOOKS AT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.

SO WE MAKE SURE WE AS A LEGISLATURE TO CHANGE OUR STATUTE TO BE CLEAR THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS ELIMINATION OF BLIGHT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT EMINENT DOMAIN CAN BE USED FOR.

SO IF WE'RE USING IT FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH UTILITIES, FOR ROADS, YOU KNOW, FOR PARKS, THOSE THINGS THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY DO, BUT WE COULDN'T JUST TAKE A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF INDIVIDUALLY OWNED PROPERTIES.

THEY AGGREGATE THEM ALL TOGETHER AND THEN GIVE THEM TO A PRIVATE ENTITY THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EMINENT DOMAIN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MAYOR. MR. BILL BATTEN. THIS WAS.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I ENJOYED THE PRESENTATION.

I ALSO ENJOYED GOING THROUGH THE PACKET.

THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD INPUT THERE.

I SEE A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT WAS PUT INTO THAT, WHICH A LOT OF EFFORT WAS PUT INTO THAT, AND I APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO DO RESEARCH RIGHT NOW. I GENERATES A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

THE FIRST ONE WAS, IS THE CITY CONSIDERING DOING ANY START START UP OUT THERE WITH THE OLD PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE? WE CALL THAT SEED STARTING.

SO IF WE START SOMETHING OUT THERE THAT HAS A TENDENCY TO BRING PEOPLE IN, BUT THAT MEANS THE CITY HAS TO BE WILLING TO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN, ON THEIR OWN.

SO THAT WAS THE FIRST QUESTION.

DID YOU HAVE ANY PLANS OF SEED STARTING IN THE AREA? THE SECOND ONE WAS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE THE PARKS AND OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU'RE, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF OF LAND THAT'S THERE.

AND AND IT DOES ADJOIN THE THREE FORKS PRESERVE.

BUT IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE THREE FORKS PRESERVE, WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S BIG WATER PRESERVE ALONG THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER, AND THAT THAT AREA, WE IT'S A VERY BIG, BIG, ESTABLISHED SPACE.

BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, TO ACCESS THE THREE FORKS PRESERVE.

AS I'M LOOKING THROUGH THIS PACKET, YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE.

TO ACCESS IT BECAUSE IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE BY THE CANALS FOR THIS, FOR THE FLOOD BLOOD MANAGEMENT AREA.

SO YOU HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE.

SO THAT'S ONE THING WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WELL BILL BATTEN BEING THE IDIOT THAT HE IS, I WENT BACK AND IN 32908 THE AREA CODE WHERE THE COMPOUND IS AT, WE JUST TOOK $2

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SO WE USED THE RESOURCE THAT WE NEED TO ESTABLISH THE COMPOUND IF WE WANT TO USE THE PARKS AND RECREATION AREA LIKE AS BEING PROPOSED, WE USE THAT MONEY TO BUILD A TO BUILD A BRIDGE WHERE THERE WAS ALREADY TRANSPORTATION ACCESS IN THE FRED POPPY PARK.

SO WE LOST THAT RESOURCE THAT WE HAD ALREADY ACCUMULATED AN ALREADY HAD AVAILABLE TO SPEND IN THIS AREA.

SO THAT BEING SAID, KEEP THINKING ABOUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE MONEY FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL THAT EVENTUALLY PETER GETS HUNGRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. NEXT WEEK.

MR. KENNETH.

BULLY BULL EVENT.

MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS KEN BULLIVANT.

3239 TELESCO ROAD SOUTHEAST.

I AM KIND OF.

MAYBE SOMEONE YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN.

I'M WITH THE BART GROUP.

BACH. THE BREVARD ALLIANCE OF RESCUING CANINES OUT IN THE COMPOUND.

I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THE DREAM OF POSSIBLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN OUT THERE, BUT WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW.

WE HAVE DOGS BEING DUMPED OFF THERE.

WE KNOW WE HAVE HUMAN BODIES BEING DUMPED OUT THERE.

WHAT IS THE PLAN TO HAVE THE AREA TAKEN CARE OF NOW? AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE I, I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

I REMEMBER THIS PAST CHRISTMAS, THE TWO BOYS THAT WERE FOUND OUT THERE.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS PUTTING THE POLICE OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T.

THEY HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE POPULATED AREAS, I GET THAT.

I LIVE OUT TOWARDS EXCUSE ME, BABCOCK AND COGAN AND I DID NOTICE THE CITY DID PUT IN A SOLAR POWERED VIDEO CAMERA.

WHY CAN'T STUFF LIKE THAT BE START BEING PUT OUT ON THE LIMITED ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS AT THE COMPOUND? THAT WAY AT LEAST THE POLICE, IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO GET SOME KIND OF INFORMATION, THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEWHERE TO START THEIR INVESTIGATION.

HOPEFULLY US AS A GROUP THAT GO OUT THERE ON THE WEEKENDS AND WHEN WE DO DRIVE OUT THROUGH THE COMPOUND WILL HELP KIND OF DETER PEOPLE FROM DOING WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY DUMPING OFF THEIR ANIMALS OR PREVENTING YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE IS HAPPENING.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL DUMPING BEING DONE OUT THERE.

WE WALK THE PLACE ALL THE TIME.

WE SEE PAINT CANS DUMPED.

SO THAT'S GOING RIGHT INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IN YOUR PLAN THAT WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

TRUCKS DUMPING OFF FENCES.

WE SEE IT ALL.

SO LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND I WANT TO SAY WE'RE HERE.

WE WANT TO HELP YOU GUYS.

WE WANT TO TRY TO IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE HERE TO HELP RESCUE THE ANIMALS AND HOPEFULLY ESTABLISH PALM BAY AS A HUMANITARIAN, ANIMAL LOVING TOWN AND DRIVE ON WITH IT AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

YOU KNOW, AND I SHARE I'M SURE I SHARE THE SENTIMENT FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

ANYONE THAT WOULD ABANDON A PET WHEN THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THAT PET TO A SHELTER THAT THAT IS INHUMANE WHETHER IT'S AT THE COMPOUND OR THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY.

BUT YOU ASK THE QUESTION REGARDING CAMERAS, MADAM SHERMAN, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT REGARDING CAMERAS? I WOULD JUST SAY WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT.

WE HAVE BEEN ADDING CAMERAS IN DIFFERENT PLACES STRATEGICALLY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, SO THANK YOU, SIR.

I JUST NOTICED MINE WHERE MINE WAS LOCATED, SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLASSIFIED.

YEAH. NOT WHEN IT'S RIGHT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT IT'S CLASSIFIED.

BUT THANK YOU. REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING US PETS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR LETTING US HELP THE COMMUNITY.

NEXT SPEAKER. MR. JAMES PENFOLD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M ALSO WITH BACH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO PREVENT THE CRIME OUT IN THAT AREA.

AND AGAIN, TOUCHING BASE ON THOSE CAMERAS.

IF WE COULD HAVE CAMERAS AT ENTRANCES AND EXITS, WE COULD STOP ALL THAT DUMPING.

PEOPLE DUMPED THEIR WHOLE HOUSES OUT THERE.

PEOPLE DUMP BODIES OUT THERE.

PEOPLE LEAVE ANIMALS ABANDONED OUT THERE.

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AND CAMERAS ARE GREAT.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN CATCH PEOPLE, GET THEIR TAGGING INFORMATION, START AN INVESTIGATION, SO FORTH, SO ON.

BUT YEAH, I REALLY LIKE TO SEE IF THE COMMUNITY COULD DO MORE TO TRY TO MAKE THE COMPOUND SAFE BEFORE ALL THIS DEVELOPING HAPPENS, BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL IT ACTUALLY GETS DEVELOPED, THE SAME THINGS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CYCLE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

PEOPLE SHOOTING OFF GUNS.

PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WITH THEIR FAMILIES RIDING FOUR WHEELERS AROUND.

LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT GO OUT THERE WITH THEIR KIDS AND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S AROUND IT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANKS.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. COUNCIL, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE? SO MOVED. SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THE ONLY OTHER THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, SINCE WE SPOKE ABOUT EMINENT DOMAIN AND I'LL JUST PUT IT OUT THERE, THE MAIN THING I SEE, THE EMPHASIS THAT WE COULD APPLY EMINENT DOMAIN IS THE EXPANSION OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC USE FOR EVERYBODY.

SO MAKING SURE WE CAN CONNECT IT AND FREE UP AND ALLEVIATE TRAFFIC IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT ALSO PROVIDE UTILITIES.

YEP. YEAH.

SAME. YOU KNOW, SO THOSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR. SO THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, MISINTERPRETATION OF WHAT'S LOOKING AT WHAT'S BEING LOOKED AT BY THIS COUNCIL.

SO IT'S ONLY THINGS THAT ARE OF A PUBLIC USE UTILITIES.

SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

AND THAT DOES ACTUALLY PROVIDE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT BECAUSE THOSE COMPANIES THAT MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT THAT AREA, ONCE THEY SEE THEY'LL HAVE ACCESS TO AND FROM WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, THAT'LL HELP OUT EVERYBODY.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU SECONDED THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD EXCEPT, YOU KNOW, JUST SUPPORTING WHAT YOU SAID.

AS FAR AS I THINK, EVERY SINGLE BULLET POINTS HERE HAS A LOT OF VALUE.

YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY YOU MENTIONED THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

I THINK THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

AND THE IDEA OF US STARTING THROWING THE FIRST STONE, RIGHT.

WE OWN QUITE A BIT OF PROPERTY OVER TO 2.7% OF THE PROPERTIES OUT THERE.

WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE THE LEAD AND SHOW GOOD FAITH AS TO THE REST OF THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, SIR, AND I AGREE THESE ARE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE, THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, A TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX FOR OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM TO ACTUALLY NEGOTIATE AND BE ABLE TO TO MOVE FORWARD AND CREATING THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARK.

I REALLY HAVE TO COMMEND THE BROWNFIELDS GRANT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GOING TO PROVE SUCH AN ADDED FEATURE AS A COMPANY, NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO GO AND DO THAT STUDY, THE BROWNFIELD STUDY.

AND THAT COULD BE ENTICING FOR ANY COMPANY.

RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I AGREE WITH YOU 100%.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME.

THIS COUNCIL HAS ON THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO REALLY CHANGE THE FUTURE OF PALM BAY A BRIGHTER FUTURE.

SO THE SPEAKERS, YOU KNOW, CAME UP AND TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE DUMPING DOGS AND DEAD BODIES.

AND I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE MOST OF THEM PEOPLE DOING THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN PALM BAY.

I DON'T THINK THEIR PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

BUT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THAT DIRECTION, AND WE NEED TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT.

AND AN OPPORTUNITY, LIKE YOU SAID, MAYOR, WITH THE THE SPACE INDUSTRY AND THE MILITARY INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS.

I WANTED TO SPEAK ON EMINENT DOMAIN BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THAT'S THAT'S A BIG ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IT'S GOING TO BE A BLOCK OF I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A ROADBLOCK FOR US, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT'S THE TOUGH JOB.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE SOME PROPERTY RIGHTS TO MAKE IT BETTER FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT CLEAR, AND I THINK WE DID.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

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BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY YOU SAW THIS IN SOUTHERN LIVING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO THAT TYPE OF STUFF, BUT IT'S THE COUNTRY LIFE THAT I LIKE.

BUT EITHER WAY, PALM BAY MADE SOUTHERN LIVING THERE, AWARE OF IT.

AND LOOK AT THE ARTICLE.

OUT OF A CITY. OUT OF 25 CITIES, WE ARE RANKED NUMBER 13 FOR THE FASTEST GROWING AND THE MOST UNIQUE ECONOMICAL GROWTH AREA.

SO THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ACCOMPLISHMENT.

BUT AS I'M READING THE ARTICLE, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS VERY STRANGE, VERY UNIQUE ABOUT IT, WAS IT FOCUSED IN ON.

UNSPOILED NATURAL NATURE AND FISHING.

NO PLACE IN THAT ARTICLE WHEN IT'S TALKING ABOUT HOW BEAUTIFUL PALM BAY WAS.

DID IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW MANY APARTMENTS AND HOUSES COULD YOU JAM ONTO ANY SINGLE ACRE TO MAKE THE CITY OF PALM BAY LOOK GOOD? WITH THAT NATURAL GROWTH AND NATURAL BEAUTY THAT WE WANT TO SEE? THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THIS AREA.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF PALM BAY IS NOT TO SEE HOW MANY APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND HOW MANY HIGH RISES YOU CAN PUT ON AND HOW CLOSE YOU CAN PUT A HOME.

WHEN THE NATE WHEN PEOPLE ARE FOCUSING IN ON THE NATURE.

SO THAT BEING SAID, REMEMBER WE HAVE TO KEEP SOME OF THE BEAUTY IN ORDER TO KEEP THE CITY A BEAUTIFUL CITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, MISS LISA JACKSON.

I AM FREEZING.

IT IS SO COLD HERE.

YES, MA'AM. CARRY ON.

I'M GETTING THERE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A REPEAT OF WHAT HE JUST SAID.

SPEAK INTO THE MIC, PLEASE.

OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. OKAY.

HELLO? LISA JACKSON, 589 TRUMPET STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK FOR THE TREES AND ADDRESS TWO INTERRELATED ISSUES LOT CLEARING AND BUILDING PERMITS AND TO OFFER POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

MAIER YOU RECENTLY SENT AN EMAIL WITH EXCITING NEWS THAT PALM BAY HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY SOUTHERN LIVING MAGAZINE AS ONE OF THE TOP RISING CITIES IN 2024.

WE RANKED NUMBER 13 OUT OF 25.

THE MAGAZINE STATES, OUR FISHING AND UNSPOILED NATURE HAVE LONG BEEN THE DRAW OF THE SPACE COAST TOWN.

ALSO, A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT CALLED ASHTON PARK WILL ADD THOUSANDS OF HOMES AND 5,000,000FT² OF RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL SPACE HERE.

THIS IS HUGE.

BEING ON THE MAP AND GETTING NOTICED IS FORTUITOUS, YET ALSO HAS ITS ISSUES.

WE HAVE VALUABLE NATURAL RESOURCES HERE, INCLUDING OUR WILDLIFE, TREES, BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT, AND ABUNDANT OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM.

SO AS THE DEVELOPERS AND OUTSIDE COMPANIES HAVE GREAT IDEAS ON HOW TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND OUR CITY, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS TWO PARTICULAR AREAS OF CONCERN WITH ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS LOT CLEARING AND BUILDING PERMITS.

FIRST, BUILDING CODE NUMBER 180 .04 UNDER TREE PRESERVATION AND REMOVAL.

PART ONE STATES THAT IF THE LOT IS UNDER ONE ACRE, THE NEW LOT OWNER CAN CLEAR IT WITHOUT A PERMIT.

THIS IS ACTUALLY AN EXCEPTION IN THE BUILDING CODE PERTAINING TO TREES.

ORDINANCE 9403 PASSED IN FEBRUARY OF 94.

FROM MY OBSERVATION, MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN PALM BAY ARE UNDER ONE ACRE, SO NO NO PERMITS ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS EXCEPTION.

YET, UNDER THIS SAME PROVISION, THE CITY FINDS THAT TREES ARE VALUABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

WE NEED THEM IN PART TWO OF THE TREE PRESERVATION AND REMOVAL CODE AT NUMBER ONE 80.26 GENERAL PROVISIONS.

THIS IS LANDSCAPING LOT SMALLER THAN ONE ACRE IN SIZE.

MUST HAVE FOUR TREES AND TEN SHRUBS.

THIS IS ORDINANCE 9415 WHICH PASSED IN JULY OF 94.

MY PROPOSAL TO AMEND OR REMOVE NUMBER THREE OF CODE 180 .04.

EXCEPTION FOR LOTS WITH LESS THAN ONE ACRE AND REQUIRE PERMITS TO CLEAR ALL LOTS ONE ACRE OR LESS.

IF WE FOLLOWED THE LANDSCAPING CODE ONE 80.26, TREES AND SHRUBS WOULD REMAIN ON THE LOTS AND EXCESSIVE CLEARING WOULD STOP.

THE SECOND PROPOSAL, IN ADDITION TO AMENDING THE PERMIT REQUIREMENT, I WOULD ADD A MORATORIUM ON WHEN TREES CAN BE CLEARED ON A LOT, JUST AS WE HAVE TURTLE SEASON AT THE BEACH TO PROTECT THEIR HABITAT DURING NESTING SEASON, WE ALSO HAVE ENDANGERED TURTLES INLAND.

I PROPOSE A MORATORIUM ON LOT CLEARING FROM JANUARY TO APRIL TO GIVE OUR WILDLIFE A CHANCE TO THRIVE DURING THEIR NESTING SEASON.

ALSO FOR THE BUILDING PERMITS, ANOTHER LOT WAS CLEARED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD RECENTLY.

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CALDWELL COMMUNITY LLC, A COMPANY BASED IN COLORADO, IS OPERATING HERE AND BOUGHT THE LOT TO PUT A SPEC HOUSE ON IT FOR ABOUT $300,000.

THESE COMPANIES ARE BUYING AND SELLING OUR CITY LOTS FOR PROFIT, AND THEY'RE RAISING OUR TAX BASE WITH THESE EXORBITANT PRICES.

I PROPOSE AN ORDINANCE BE CREATED TO PREVENT OUT OF STATE COMPANIES FROM PURCHASING NEIGHBORHOOD LOTS, WITH THE INTENTION OF BUILDING SPEC HOUSES.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. STICE. THERE.

GOOD EVENING, ROBERT STILES, 1796 LYNBROOK DRIVE.

I WANT TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE CPW MEETING WE HAD LAST THURSDAY THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW.

BASICALLY, WE HAD ABOUT 200 OR MORE.

PALM BAY. I'M SORRY.

BAYSIDE LAKES RESIDENTS THAT SHOW UP FOR THE MEETING.

THE PLANNER WAS THERE.

AND BASICALLY, WE HEARD UPFRONT THAT HE WASN'T TAKING ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL.

SO THE THE PROCESS WENT ON OF WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO AND IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

BASICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 700 HOMES.

OKAY. THEN IT GOT A LITTLE BIT CONTENTIOUS BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE CPW MEETING YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS.

FIRST HE SAID THAT HE WASN'T TAKING ANY QUESTIONS, AND THEN AFTER THAT, HE STARTED ANSWERING QUESTIONS, AND PEOPLE GOT FRUSTRATED, AND THE WHOLE THING IMPLODED.

I HEARD I HEARD COMMENTS OF THIS WAS A DISASTER.

IT WAS A DUMPSTER FIRE.

IT WAS OUTDOORS. IT WAS GETTING WINDY.

THERE WAS LIMITED.

BATHROOM FACILITIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU HAD THIS BEEN AT BAYSIDE LAKES THEATER? WE PUT 350 PEOPLE IN THERE.

OKAY, SO LET'S LOOK AT 700 HOMES REAL QUICK.

1400, 700 HOMES TIMES TWO DRIVERS IS 1400 VEHICLES, 300 YARDS FROM ONE OF THE WORST L-SHAPED AREAS.

OR TURNS OUTSIDE MY HOA.

OKAY. 1400 VEHICLES 2.8 RESIDENTS PER HOME IS 1960 FOLKS JUST 300 YARDS AGAIN AWAY FROM THIS WHERE DOES THIS MAKE SENSE FOR EVERYBODY? FOR ANYBODY? THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT THERE.

OKAY. YOU HAVE A DANGEROUS AREA THAT THE CITY ITSELF WAS WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND RECOGNIZE THE THE ISSUE THAT'S THERE.

SO YOU HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU HAVE YOU ALREADY GOT ABOUT 33,000, 3500 PEOPLE AT BAYSIDE LAKES.

THIS IS A DISASTER.

YOU MUST KEEP THE CURRENT ZONING AND YOU'RE PUTTING APARTMENTS.

THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR APARTMENTS THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD WE WENT FROM 367 HOMES, AND NOW WE'RE AT 701, AND WE HAD A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM THE ZONING AS WELL AS THE CITY. I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS.

AND I JUST THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A A PLANNER UP THERE OR ANYBODY UP THERE, WE NEED TO GO IN A FACILITY BECAUSE THE RED SHIRTS ARE NOT GOING AWAY. WE DON'T WANT TO DEVASTATE THE SITUATION OF QUALITY OF LIFE AT BAYSIDE LAKES.

SO I KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO ZONING AND PROBABLY UNTIL AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, BUT TRY TO KEEP THIS.

THE IRON'S HOT ON THIS ONE, SO PLEASE CONSIDER THIS.

THIS IS THIS IS JUST NOT GOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER MRS SANTA ISABEL.

RIGHT? GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MR. CHAIRMAN. SANTA ISABEL.

RIGHT. 858 BRISBANE STREET NORTHEAST.

I'M HERE AS PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN APPLYING FOR LICENSES AND BUSINESS TOOLS IN PALM BAY RECENTLY.

I HAVE HAD SEVERAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT THE SOFTWARE IS TO TO MANEUVER AND FILL OUT THE THE LACK OF CONNECTIVITY AS GOING BACK AND FORTH IF YOU NEED TO CHANGE INFORMATION OR UPDATE IT.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AND IT'S NOT USER FRIENDLY AT ALL.

I'M HERE SPECIFICALLY ON A COMPANY THAT IS TRYING TO MOVE INTO PALM BAY.

THEY HAVE ATTEMPTED TO OPEN THEIR BUSINESS.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE RENTING A HOME BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING A HOME.

THEIR LANDLORD REFUSES TO GIVE THEM PERMISSION TO USE THEIR ADDRESS TO OPEN THEIR BUSINESS.

WE IN PALM BAY HAVE THE ORDINANCE THAT STATES YOU CANNOT USE A PHYSICAL ADDRESS LIKE A P.O.

BOX, A QUICK MAILBOX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

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BOX WITH A PHYSICAL ADDRESS AND YOU CAN START YOUR BUSINESS.

I THINK THAT ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED, LOOKED AT, AND DISCUSSED BECAUSE WE ARE LOSING SMALL BUSINESSES FROM COMING FROM PALM BAY.

THIS FAMILY, HAD THEY KNOWN PRIOR TO BUILDING THEIR HOME HERE THAT THEY COULD NOT OPEN THEIR BUSINESS, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE INVESTED $450,000 IN THEIR HOME. SO I THINK THAT AS A COUNCIL, YOU GUYS NEED TO LOOK AT THIS LIKE ASAP.

AS MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE, MORE PEOPLE HAVE HOME BASED BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALLY MOBILE BUSINESSES, AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TALKED ABOUT AND THAT'S IT. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. I'VE TAKEN A NOTE ON THAT AND WE WILL DEFINITELY CHECK INTO THAT.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MR. BUTCH WARREN.

EXCUSE ME. BUTCHELL RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE FIRST THING LAST NIGHT AND THIS THIS AFTERNOON, TOO.

THERE WAS A BIG NEWS PRESENTATION ON OUR UP AND COMING HURRICANE SEASON.

THEY'RE PREDICTING 23 STORMS, FIVE MAJOR, AND THEY'RE KIND OF SAYING THEY'RE COMING THIS WAY.

AND IT'S BOTH THE COLORADO AND THE EUROPEAN.

MODELS. MODELS. YES THAT'S PREDICTING THAT.

SO KNOWING THAT'S COMING.

ARE WE GOING TO GET AHEAD OF THIS DRAINAGE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS? I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S A SLOW PROCESS AND THESE GUYS WORK AS HARD AS THEY CAN.

THEY BUST YOUR ASS EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE OUT THERE. BUT WE NEED TO GET PUSHING ON IT BEFORE WE HAVE THESE MAJOR FIVE MAJOR STORMS COME THROUGH.

AND THEY'RE BLAMING ON EL NINO AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF RAIN.

THE OTHER THING IS AN UPDATE ON THE POSSIBLE PEDESTRIAN WARNING SIGN OUT HERE AT THE MINTON EXIT.

WHERE THE MALABAR, I MEAN, WHERE THE LIBRARY ROAD IS AT.

IT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED.

I MEAN, THERE'S THERE'S FOLKS IN WHEELCHAIRS THAT TRY TO GET ACROSS THE ROAD.

AND OUR COURTESY DRIVERS HERE IN PALM BAY JUST DON'T LET IT HAPPEN.

THEY JUST KEEP GOING.

THERE WAS A LADY HAD A SHE WAS BLIND AND HAD HER LITTLE WALKING STICK.

NOBODY WOULD LET HER GET BY.

SO IF THAT LIGHT WAS THERE, IT WOULD AT LEAST DRAW THE ATTENTION.

SAY, HEY, HERE'S SOMEBODY TRYING TO GET ACROSS THE STREET.

CAN YOU LET HER GO? AND THE LAST THING AND I'VE TRIED CALLING AT&T.

I'VE TRIED CALLING FP AND L, THERE'S A SWITCH BOX FOR LACK OF ANYTHING ELSE TO CALL IT, AND IT'S ON SAN LUIS BETWEEN WILMETTE AND TRENTON AVENUE.

THE DOOR IS COMPLETELY OFF THE THING.

ALL THE WIRES ARE EXPOSED.

RAIN CAN GET IN THERE.

ANIMALS GET IN THERE AND EAT THAT WIRE UP.

THEY LIKE TO CHEW ON WIRE.

AND IT HAS THE ONLY THING I COULD FIND AS FAR AS AN ID FOR IT, IT SAYS THREE, SEVEN, THREE.

WHAT KIND OF BOX IS THAT? IT'S ELECTRICAL BOX.

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A SWITCH BOX FOR, LIKE, YOUR TELEPHONE AND TELEPHONE FOR TELEPHONE.

YEAH. BECAUSE IT'S THAT REAL THIN WIRE.

SO BELLSOUTH OR WHATEVER IT SAYS AT&T.

YEAH. OKAY. BUT I TRIED GETTING AHOLD OF AT&T.

THEY ACT LIKE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S AT FAULT HERE.

THE OTHER THING IS, GO, SOUTH CAROLINA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. SO, REGARDING THE DRAINAGE ISSUES YES.

COUNCIL KNOWS WE RECENTLY BROUGHT AN ITEM TO YOU TO TO BRING SOME ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT STAFFING FORWARD.

AT THE APRIL 18TH COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM ABOUT ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE NEEDED TO BRING THE SYSTEM, THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, INTO A DIFFERENT PLACE OF OPERATION.

I KNOW IN THIS DRY SEASON, THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING VERY, VERY HARD TO GET THROUGH THE CITY AND CATCH UP ON ALL THE BACKLOG OF WORK ORDERS FROM LAST YEAR'S INTENSE RAINS THAT WE HAD. AND I'VE SEEN THE EVIDENCE ALL AROUND THE CITY, SO THEY'RE DOING THE VERY BEST THEY CAN WITH THE RESOURCES THEY HAVE NOW.

BUT PART OF THE 18TH CONVERSATION WILL BE ABOUT ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, FUNDING LIMITATIONS AND WHAT WE KIND OF WANT TO RECOMMEND FOR PRIORITIES GOING FORWARD.

REGARDING THE PEDESTRIAN WARNING LIGHT, WE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE AN OFFICIAL UPDATE FOR YOU.

CERTAINLY IT'S ON OUR OUR LIST AND OUR RADAR IS SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARY AND NEEDED TO LOOK AT.

AND I BELIEVE OUR TEAM MADE A NOTE OF THE AT&T OLD BELLSOUTH INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO WE'LL WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

AND WE HAVE CONTACTS WITH THOSE COMPANIES BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY DOING WORK IN THE RIGHT OF WAYS.

SO WE CAN PROBABLY FIND THE RIGHT PERSON TO HELP WITH THAT.

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DEPUTY MAYOR, DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE PUBLIC? YES, MAYOR. OR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES. ALL RIGHT, SIR, SO WE'RE NOW ON CONSENT.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]

YES. A MOTION TO ADOPT ALL CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NUMBER 1313.

IS THAT IT, SIR? THAT'S IT.

COUNCIL. WATCH THE POOL.

OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE CHEF FABRICIO FROM TRATTORIA VILLA.

CHEF FABRICIO YOUR ITEM WAS WAS JUST PASSED.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING IN THE AUDIENCE.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, MAYOR.

AS YOU WERE, MA'AM. CARRY ON.

RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 11, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE STATEWIDE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

RESOLUTION 20 2412.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER AND POLICE CHIEF TO EXECUTE A CONCURRENT ENFORCEMENT ZONE INTER LOCAL MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

OH. CARRY ON. I MISS OR IS 20 2418? AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF THREE PAGES, AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN.

RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING, AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, PUBLIC HEARINGS, MADAM SMITH.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 11, BUSINESS REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 110 BUSINESS TAXES, SUBCHAPTER BUSINESS TAXES, TAX RECEIPTS, RECEIPTS BY INCLUDING A ZONING COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL READING FOR SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE SECTION OF OUR ORDINANCE, ADDING REFERENCES TO ZONING COMPLIANCE AND DELETING ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 20 2413, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION.

CHAPTER 39 COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY REVISING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS THE FINAL READING ON THE ORDINANCE THAT UPDATES THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2414 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS, SUBCHAPTER, BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY, BY REPEALING THE

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HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MAN, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS IS THE ELIMINATION OF THE SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE THAT REFLECTS THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BECAUSE THE CRA IS SUNSETTING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK HIM FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 15, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT TEN, BLOCK 2396, PORT MALABAR.

UNIT 45 ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22, PAGE 12 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

ARE YOU HERE? YEAH, THERE HE IS.

THANK YOU.

MICHAEL MAIER COUNCIL.

MICHAEL LAGROTTA 191 NESBITT STREET NORTHEAST.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING.

SELLING A SWIMMING POOL.

MY LOT SITS ON A CORNER, WHICH MEANS THE HOUSE IS SET BACK.

I HAVE THE CANAL BEHIND MY HOUSE, SO I'M REQUESTING THE EIGHT FOOT EASEMENT REQUEST OF THE 20 FOOT.

HAVE THE NO OBJECTION LETTERS FROM FPL, WHICH TOOK A YEAR.

AND SPECTRUM AND AT&T.

THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS FROM ME.

COUNCIL. NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK HIM FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FIVE.

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.

THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FIVE, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 16, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, CHAPTER 185 ZONING CODE, SUBCHAPTER DISTRICT REGULATIONS BY REMOVING RESTRICTIONS ON PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS IS SOME CHANGES TO THE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT HAD EXCLUSIONS FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO OPERATE EAST OF THE RAILROAD IN THE BAYFRONT, AND WE'RE ASKING TO REMOVE THOSE RESTRICTIONS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY.

WAS THAT YOU, COUNCILMAN? YES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 17, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, REPEALING ORDINANCE 20 1940, WHICH GRANTED AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION TO MIDWEST DENTAL ART, INCORPORATED 1493 LANE BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AS MISS SHERMAN TO PRESENT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL READING FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE A T ABATEMENT PROGRAM WITH MIDWEST DENTAL ARTS.

AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE THE OWNER TO BRING BACK AN ITEM TO WHICH WE PLAN TO BRING BACK AT THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY TO DISCUSS THE AMOUNT THAT IS THAT THE AMOUNT OF TAXES THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE TO PAY AND WHAT KIND OF REPAYMENT PLAN OPTIONS COULD BE CONSIDERED BY COUNCIL, IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO DO SO? THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? SEEING NONE.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, MASTER CHIEF? ANYONE ELSE?

[02:45:01]

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CASE WHERE A PROPOSAL OR AN IDEAL ARE BEING PRESENTED TO THE CITY AS A GOOD THING, BUT IT'S NOT.

BUT IT'S IN THIS CASE, THEY FAILED TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT THEIR COMMITMENT WAS.

THERE'S REASONS WHY THINGS FAIL.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST OF EVOLUTION.

BUT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY CASE WHERE THIS HAPPENS, WHERE IDEALS AND PROPOSALS ARE PRESENTED TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY SAYING, OH, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FANTASTIC IDEA.

WE'RE GOING TO SAY, OH YEAH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.

AND I'LL GIVE CASE SOME POINTS WHERE WE CHANGE THE ZONING FROM SEVERAL PLACES OF PIECES OF PROPERTY, WHERE WE CHANGE THE ZONING, WHICH HAPPENS FIRST THING WITH ANY PROJECT IS BEING PRESENTED ON THE ANTICIPATION THAT THE FOLLOW ON PROJECT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THE ZONING HAS ALREADY OCCURRED.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS.

WE CHANGE THE ZONING FROM A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE CHANGE THE ZONING, AND THEN THESE IDEALS NEVER FOLLOW THROUGH.

SO IT RESULT.

WE PUT OUR FOOT IN THE DOOR AND SOMEBODY SLAMMED IT ON US.

SO BE CAUTIOUS WHEN WE'RE TAKING WHEN WE'RE MAKING CHANGES THAT HAVE AN IMPACT WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A GUARANTEE THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS GOING TO BE MET. RIGHT.

I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE FOR THE TAX ABATEMENT, BUT THE SAME IDEALS IS WHAT I'M ADDRESSING.

SO WHEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE, REMEMBER THE CHANGE IS ALREADY MADE.

THIS WAS THE CASE WHERE THEY REQUESTED TAX ABATEMENT AND IT WAS A PERCENTAGE BASED ON PROPORTIONATE FOR WHAT THEY FOLLOWED THROUGH ON.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THERE'S OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT DON'T QUALIFY AND THEY HAVE TO STRUGGLE TO PAY THEIR TAXES.

BUT YET THE INDIVIDUAL SAYS, WELL, I'M GOING TO BE DOING GOOD FOR THE CITY.

THAT'S SAYING THAT NOBODY ELSE IS DOING GOOD FOR THE CITY.

THEY'RE HAVING TO STRUGGLE AND PAY THEIR TAXES AND THEY GO INTO DEBT TO DO IT.

BUT THESE GET TAX ABATEMENTS AND SO FORTH.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, SO WHEN YOU MODIFY FOR ONE, REMEMBER, IF THEY FAIL TO FOLLOW THROUGH, INSTEAD OF JUST PAY BACK WHAT YOU DIDN'T PAY, THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF PENALTY TO COMPENSATE FOR THE PROCESS.

THAT'S THE INCENTIVE TO DO WHAT YOU SAID.

SAME THING SHOULD HAPPEN WHEN WE DO LAND MASS CHANGES.

WE DO THE LAND MASS CHANGE.

YOU FAILED TO DO WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO.

HERE'S THE PENALTY.

RIGHT. MAKE PEOPLE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY TELL YOU, BECAUSE THEY CAN TELL YOU ALL THE LIES THEY WANT HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TAKING AT WHEN YOU DO THESE CHANGES.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT GUARANTEES IT, AND YOU'RE GOING ON THEIR WORD.

WELL, WE'VE SEEN HOW POPULAR A PERSON'S WORD IS ANYMORE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'LL SECOND THAT. SECONDED BY THE MAYOR.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'M. I'M IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I.

MR. BATTEN HAS A POINT.

HE DEFINITELY HAS A POINT.

SHOULD WE SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER OFF OF RJ CONLON? WE HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S STILL NOT BEING DEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY.

SO IF WE IF WE CAN PUT PARAMETERS FOR ACCOUNTABILITY, I'M ALL FOR IT.

SO I DEFINITELY I THINK THIS COUNCIL IS IN THIS, YOU KNOW, ON THE SAME PAGE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION IN AREAS IN ALL AREAS WHERE WE CAN PUT BETTER PARAMETERS AND BETTER ACCOUNTABILITY. YEAH.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR.

YEAH. I'M GOING TO SECOND THAT.

I DID SECOND THE MOTION.

BUT IT GOES BEYOND BEING ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE I AGREE.

IF YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO TELL US SOMETHING REGARDING THIS, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT CAN BE DONE TODAY, BUT IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE LOOK AT HOW WE COULD SET THOSE PARAMETERS TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

PART OF THAT IS ALSO THE CREATING THE JOBS, RIGHT? BUT IF THEY DON'T CREATE THE JOBS, WHICH IS WHAT ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS HERE, EVERYONE HAS VOICE CREATING JOBS.

WHAT OTHER RECOURSE? CERTAINLY THEY HAVE TO PAY THE TAX BACK, BUT IS THE PENALTY WARRANTED AT THAT POINT? YOU KNOW WHAT IS IT LEGAL FOR US TO DO THAT RIGHT AT AT INTEREST TO IT? I DON'T KNOW, BUT CERTAINLY.

CAN WE LOOK AT THAT? I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE LEGAL, BUT CITY ATTORNEY AND YOU GUYS CAN WORK THOSE THINGS OUT, BUT IT'S DULY NOTED.

I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

[02:50:03]

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM 13 AND CONSENT, DEPUTY MAYOR, MR.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT OF APPLYING FOR GRANT.

I ALSO GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT OF 33 NEW FIREFIGHTER POSITIONS.

ALL OF THAT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS I'M LOOKING AT THE CITY'S TOTAL BUDGET AS WE STAND RIGHT NOW, I'M LOOKING AT WHICH IS POLICE AND FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE. THE THREE, THAT'S THE THREE ONLY GUIDED THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE POLICE, FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TO HAVE NOW.

BY OUR CHARTER.

NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AT 33 FIREFIGHTERS AND WE'RE ASKING FOR GRANT FOR THIS ONE.

I'M ALSO LOOKING ABOUT NEXT YEAR IF WE DON'T QUALIFY FOR THE GRANT.

DOES OUR BUDGET AUTHORIZE US TO HAVE THAT EXPANSION? OR DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR POLICE AND WE'VE INCREASED IT BY THIS MUCH, WHICH WE NEED.

DOES THAT THEN MEAN THAT? WELL, NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LAY OFF OTHER EMPLOYEES THAT WE'VE JUST HIRED, AND WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE.

IN ORDER TO MEET BUDGET, WE'VE HAD TO LAY OFF PEOPLE.

I'M JUST SAYING DON'T SAY, OH, LOOK, THERE'S A GRANT OUT THERE.

AND WE PLANNING FOR THIS YEAR, LET'S PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR.

BECAUSE I DON'T I DON'T SEE AS I'M LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, I DIDN'T SEE WHERE WE HAD THE EXPANSION FOR 33 NEW FIREFIGHTERS IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, I'M ONLY WORRIED ABOUT, AS YOU SAY, MAYOR, DOWN RANGE, BUT 300 YARD SHOT STILL DOABLE.

THANK YOU. SIR.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. THE GOOD QUESTION.

SO THIS GRANT IS A THREE YEAR FULLY FUNDING OF THE POSITIONS GRANT.

IT WILL FUND THE SALARIES AND THE BENEFITS FOR THOSE POSITIONS FOR THE THREE YEARS.

SO THE STRATEGY ON THIS AND THE REASON WE ASKED FOR THIS NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS IS IT IS AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH.

IT'S BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING VERY HARD TO BRING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CAPACITY UP TO A LEVEL THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF OUR CITY IN A WAY THAT WE ARE THAT WE KNOW IS IMPORTANT.

BUT THE THREE YEARS IS IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE THAT GIVES US THREE BUDGET CYCLES TO PREPARE THE FUNDING TO COVER THESE POSITIONS.

ONCE, IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE THE GRANT, ONCE, THE GRANT ENDS, BECAUSE UNLIKE OTHER GRANTS WHERE THEY PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE POSITIONS AND THEY KIND OF GRADUALLY STAGGER DOWN THE FUNDING OVER THE YEARS, IT'S THREE YEARS, 100%, AND THEN WE'RE RESPONSIBLE.

SO THAT IS OUR STRATEGIC PLAN ON THAT.

IN THESE POSITIONS, SINCE I'M TALKING ABOUT IT, ARE TO FULLY STAFF AN ENGINE FOR THE NEW FIRE STATION THAT WE ARE WORKING ON FOR THE BABCOCK SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AREA, AS WELL AS TO ADD TWO NEW SQUAD VEHICLES AND STAFF TO FIRE STATION THREE, AND ALSO THE NEW FIRE STATION SEVEN THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVE. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, MISS LEFLER.

THANK YOU. MAYOR.

EXCUSE ME. STEPH WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO RESCHEDULE THE FIRST REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING IN JULY TO TUESDAY, JULY 2ND, DUE TO THE INDEPENDENCE DAY HOLIDAY.

ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH THAT? TO SAY I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

EVERYONE, YOU HAVE THUMBS UP.

SO TUESDAY, JULY 2ND.

IT WILL BE OKAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.

AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

[COUNCIL REPORTS:]

I TALKED TO YOU DURING MY BRIEFING THIS WEEK ABOUT THE HOMELESS.

AIR THAT WAS PASSED BY THE GOVERNOR DESANTIS.

YOU REMEMBER THAT? YES. YES, SIR.

DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT? I DID NOT, I APOLOGIZE, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE BRINGING IT UP TONIGHT, SIR.

OH. OKAY.

[02:55:02]

ESSENTIALLY. WHAT? AT LEAST MY INTERPRETATION OF IT.

THE COURTS HAVE ALLOWED CITIES, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SOME ABILITIES TO REGULATE HOMELESSNESS IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THESE SHELTERS, IF THEY HAVE THESE OTHER MECHANISMS. BUT OFTENTIMES CITIES DON'T OR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.

SO WHAT THEY SAY IS, WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST REMOVE THEM AND PENALIZE THEM FOR BEING HOMELESS.

THIS BILL SAYS, IN ESSENCE, WELL, YOU HAVE SOME ABILITY TO DO THINGS THAT WHAT YOU CAN DO, YOU NEED TO GET DOING IT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO ESSENTIALLY CREATE A PLAN FOR YOU TO MOVE ABOUT IN THAT LANE IN WHICH THE COURTS HAVE ALREADY PERMITTED YOU TO DO SO.

SO, YES, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.

HOW WOULD THAT THAT LAW, THE NEW LAW AFFECTS PALM BAY.

AS FAR AS BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAVE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE TO.

ARREST THESE PEOPLE IF THEY IN THEIR PUBLIC, THEY LIVING OUT IN THE PUBLIC AREA.

AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? WELL, FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, WHICH IS YOU TO MAKE A PLAN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESOURCES.

SO IT DOES. THERE IS SOME REQUIREMENT, CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT LAW, THAT WE HAVE A PLAN FOR WHERE THESE PEOPLE CAN GO, AT LEAST TEMPORARILY, UNTIL WE CREATE A MORE PERMANENT SITE.

AND THEN ONCE WE ACTUALLY CREATE THE PLAN WHERE THEY HAVE SOME PLACE TO GO, WE CAN INSIST THAT THEY GO THERE AND THEN TAKE ACTION ONCE THEY DON'T.

BUT WE FIRST HAVE TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A SITE FOR THEM WHICH THE LAW REQUIRES, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CASE LAW REQUIRES. SO ONCE WE HAVE SOME PLACE FOR THEM TO GO, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO GO THERE.

OKAY. AND WOULDN'T IT? THIS LAW TAKES EFFECT.

IS THIS OCTOBER? IS IT OCTOBER 1ST? ISN'T IT? IN OCTOBER.

YES, YES. OKAY. OCTOBER.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT THAT NEW LAW TO THE COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT, THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE SOME ACTION ON HOMELESSNESS IN THE CITY.

BASED ON THE LAW THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IS THAT THE SQUATTERS LAW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES. NO. OR IT'S HOUSE BILL 1365.

OKAY, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YES, MA'AM. I'LL BE BRIEF.

THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO REALLY SPEAK ON WAS INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS MAKING SURE WE MAINTAIN A WORKING RELATION AT THE FEDERAL, STATE AND COUNTY LEVEL EVEN WHEN WE DON'T NEED SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S EASY TO JUST GO OUT WITH YOUR HANDOUT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH STATE LEGISLATORS IN OFF SEASON AND ALSO SEE WHAT IT IS THEY NEED. YOU KNOW, I KNOW ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, I'M GOING TO BE MORE WILLING TO GO OUT OF MY WAY FOR SOMEBODY WHO I HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH, RATHER THAN SOMEBODY WHO JUST KNOCKS ON MY DOOR WHEN.

YEP. YOU UNDERSTAND, SIR.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW.

PUBLIC WORKS MINISTER. PEREZ, I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING ALL AVENUES BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BABCOCK WIDENING.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MALABAR WIDENING.

AND WHEN WE GET TO THE, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S TIME TO GET TO THAT POINT TO, YOU KNOW, BREAK GROUND OR GET THINGS DONE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL PARTIES OR ALL STAKEHOLDERS IS A BETTER TERM, ALL STAKEHOLDERS, BECAUSE THE FEDERAL LEVEL HAS A STAKE IN IT AS WELL.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT US AS A COUNCIL, WHEN WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP OR, YOU KNOW, STAFF ANY ANYBODY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, YEARLY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE LIKE SITUATIONS WHERE HILL ROAD AND YOU KNOW, MINTON WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE THINGS OUT AND THERE'S A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH ON WHAT POTENTIALLY COULD HAVE BEEN MITIGATED PRIOR.

SO IT'S NOTHING.

IT'S NOTHING ON STAFF NOW.

SO I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST SEEING HOW IMPORTANT COMMUNICATION AND RELATIONSHIPS ARE, LET'S MAKE SURE WE MOVE FORWARD KNOWING THAT.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN SET OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, I APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

AS ALWAYS, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND AND AND EVEN MOREOVER, STAFFERS AS WELL.

YES. RIGHT. YES, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MR. BATTEN. YOU KNOW, JUST CERTAINLY PULL AN ITEM THAT THAT YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF CONVERSATION WITH,

[03:00:09]

I THINK IT'S GOOD.

I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.

BUT THE THE OTHER ASPECT WANTED TO BRING, YOU KNOW, TO, TO MY COLLEAGUES ATTENTION AND THE PUBLIC, IS THAT THE IMPORTANCE, THE CRITICAL? I KNOW WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION SEVERAL TIMES, BUT BUT AGAIN, I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE EMPHASIZE ON THAT TONIGHT, THE IMPORTANCE TO TO RAMP UP ALL PLANS TO TO BUT, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT PLANS FOR MORE FIRE STATION OR A QUESTION I ASK CITY ADMINISTRATION IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY BASED ON ALL POPULATION, HOW MANY FIRE STATIONS ARE WE SHORT OF? THE ANSWER WAS SIX.

JUST THINK ABOUT THAT, GUYS.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS CRITICAL.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT AND SOMETHING GOT TO BE DONE.

HAS TO BE DONE YESTERDAY.

WE NEED TO FIND A BETTER PLAN, MORE OF A ROBUST, ROBUST PLAN TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

WE CAN'T WE CAN'T DELAY THIS ANY LONGER.

COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, WE HAD A CALL.

TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.

19 MINUTES RESPONSE TIME, 18 TO 19 MINUTES, IF I'M CORRECT.

I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE.

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT.

IT CAME TO MY ATTENTION.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CRITICAL.

THAT'S LIFE AND DEATH.

YOU KNOW, ALL DECISION AS HOUSE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD OR WHATNOT.

IF OUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE, WE'LL DO ANYTHING WE CAN.

ANYTHING POSSIBLE HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO TO PUT THAT FIRE OUT.

IF IT MEANS, YOU KNOW, DEBT SERVICE.

WE MAY HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO FOR A FAMILY, RIGHT? SO I KNOW THERE'S PLANNING AND LEADERSHIP IS WORKING ON PLANS AND CONSIDERING EVEN, YOU KNOW, PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT COMING UP THIS YEAR RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO, TO YOU GUYS.

ATTENTION. WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY CONSIDER MAYBE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION.

I KNOW WE GOT THINGS IN THE WORKS, YOU KNOW, FIRE STATION SEVEN FOLLOWING EIGHT, WE MADE THE FIVE YEAR PLAN.

MAY WE MAY HAVE TO CUT THAT DOWN.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO TO TO YOUR ALL ATTENTION AND THEN THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

SO THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US, TO ME, TO STAFF.

WE SHOULD DEFINITELY MAKE IT A PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I'LL ECHO THAT FOR A BIT.

I KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING OFFLINE BEHIND THE SCENES WITH WITH MANAGEMENT.

THAT IS A PASSION OF MINE.

SO I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

AND AND THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THIS.

IT'S CRITICAL FOR OUR FOR OUR CITIZENS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS LIFE AND DEATH.

IT'S NOT JUST A FIRE, BUT IT'S IT'S THE, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT THAT IS ILL.

AND LIKE I SAID, I HAD AN EXPERIENCE AT ONE POINT TO TAKE PART IN SAVING A LIFE WHEN, WHEN THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD DURING THESE LIFE CRITICAL MOMENTS.

IT IS INVALUABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A SAFETY AND US RESPONDING AT THE RIGHT TIME. SO PART OF THAT DISCUSSION ALSO, GENTLEMEN, IS BRINGING UP BECAUSE WE ARE ON THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH BOTH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE TASKING OUR, OUR FIREFIGHTERS WITH, WHAT WE'RE TASKING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT INDIVIDUALS WITH.

LOOK, WE JUST HAD A DEVASTATING EVENT THAT YOU ALLUDED TO EARLIER TODAY WHERE THERE WAS A LOSS OF LIFE. THE FAMILIES THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THAT, THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO WHAT INDIVIDUALS ARE GOING THROUGH WITHIN OUR CITY, THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE FRONT LINES.

OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

GENTLEMEN, I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THOSE NEGOTIATORS, THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT RESPONDED TO THAT, THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS, THEY HAD TO CONTEND WITH THEIR OWN MENTAL HEALTH IN IN THIS SITUATION.

SO UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED TO NOT ONLY SUPPORT THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO, BUT UNDERSTAND THAT IT TAKES A ROLE AND A TOLL ON THEIR LIVES AND THEIR FAMILIES LIVES.

AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT MENTAL HEALTH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT.

AND I SPEAK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH.

I THINK THE CHIEF IS IS SPOT ON WITH THAT INITIATIVE, AND I GIVE HIM KUDOS FOR THAT.

[03:05:02]

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I JUST SEGUE ONTO YOU MY REPORTS MORE LIKE I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE EACH AND EVERYONE THAT CAME THROUGH FOR THE MAYOR'S BALL.

OUTSTANDING TIME.

WE HAD A GREAT TIME, BUT IT WAS FOR SERENE HARBOR AND A SPECTACULAR CAUSE OF HELPING WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO WE WILL ROLL OUT ONCE THE BILLS ARE PAID, WHAT THE AMOUNT WAS.

BUT I KNOW IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL CHECK.

AND I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESSES CAME FORWARD AND PARTNERED WITH US.

THEN I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON OUR MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL.

IT WAS A GREAT EVENT, SPECTACULAR EVENT.

AND I GIVE THE CITY KUDOS TO THAT.

YOU KNOW, THE DAY BEFORE EASTER, EASTWIND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH PARTNERED WITH THE CITY.

WHAT AN ABSOLUTELY SPECTACULAR EVENT.

IT WAS CALLED THE EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA.

THEY HAD TWO CHOPPERS, TWO HELICOPTERS FLYING OVER THE FIELD, JUST, YOU KNOW DEPLOYING EASTER EGGS.

SO MANY PEOPLE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNT WAS THERE.

THEY'RE SPECULATING 5000.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT APPEARED TO BE MORE INDIVIDUALS THAN 5000.

WANT TO GIVE AGAIN, KUDOS TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

THE TRAFFIC MALABAR ROAD WAS BACKED UP.

I'M SURE YOU WERE PART OF THAT.

FOR THOSE CITIZENS THAT GO TO FRED POPPY, YOU CAN ALSO COME FROM THE WEST SIDE, GO AROUND THROUGH SAINT JOHN'S.

THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE CONVENIENT FOR ME.

BUT IT WAS JUST A SPECTACULAR EVENT.

THE LIVES THAT WERE TOUCHED.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, QUOTE PARTNERSHIPS.

IF YOU WERE THERE AND SAW THE THOUSANDS OF KIDS SMILING, AND THEN WHEN THEY WERE DEPLOYED TO GET THE EGGS, WHAT A SPECTACULAR VISUAL OF COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER.

AND PARENTS THAT WERE LIKE, THIS IS THIS IS GREAT.

SO I WANT TO COMMEND EACH AND EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS FOR ALLOWING PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THAT, THAT FOSTER COMMUNITY AND, AND JUST CELEBRATING EASTER AND FAMILIES HAVING A PLACE TO GO TO.

SO THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY REPORTS AND I'LL MOVE ON TO MADAM SHERMAN.

NOTHING FURTHER. THANK YOU, SIR, MADAM SMITH.

NO, SIR. SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

YOU OUTRANK HIM, SIR? I, SIR. GOOD EVENING, ROBERT.

1796 WOODBROOK DRIVE.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF MINOR THINGS AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

WHERE ARE WE ON THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE THE PONDS ON THE FORMER MAJORS TREATED BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT HURRICANES.

I THINK WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT.

MODIFY THAT ORDINANCE IN LATE 2023.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHERE WE ARE NOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPEAKING TO THE MIC.

I MEAN, WHERE ARE WE? ARE WE ON THE ORDINANCE TO HAVE AREAS OR FACILITIES LIKE THE FORMER MAJORS HAVING TO TREAT THE PONDS THAT THEY HAVE OUT TO GET THE LILY PADS AND ALLOW WATER FLOW? NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, IS THERE ANY UPDATE OR CURRENT UPDATE THAT WE COULD FIND OUT ON THE NEW WATER TREATMENT PLANT I'M HEARING NOW, AND THE 24 NOW I'M HEARING IT'S GOING INTO 25. AND WE GOT ALL OF THESE PORTABLE LIFT STATIONS PORTABLE PUMPS AT THE LIFT STATIONS.

THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE DEREK ACORAH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

JUPITER RIGHT OUTSIDE THE LIBRARY HERE.

MAYBE WE HAVE SOME NEWS ON THAT THE PAVING AND YOU KNOW, I WAS PUSHING TO SOME OF THESE.

I'VE BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER IN MY PREVIOUS CAREER OF MWBE OR WOMEN MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES THAT ARE UP, AND TO ME, THEY SHOULDN'T BE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE A COMMUNICATION.

I MEAN, A COMPETITION.

THERE SHOULD BE SOME CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL WATCH THE CITY MEETING.

I'M HOPING THAT JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE A RESTAURANT HERE, FOR INSTANCE, A TWISTED BISCUIT TO ALSO LOOKING TO OPEN UP ANOTHER LOCATION IN IN PALM BAY.

HOW DO WE RECOGNIZE THAT? AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ECONOMIC.

BUSINESS ECONOMY, WHATEVER WE CALL THAT.

THANK YOU. BUT, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S GO AHEAD AND ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.

[03:10:03]

WELL, YOU COULD DO THAT TOO.

RIGHT NOW, IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU COULD SAY, I'VE WITNESSED WHAT WHAT WHAT DINER WERE YOU JUST CALLED? TWISTED BISCUIT. TWISTED BISCUIT.

IT'S ON BABCOCK, JUST SHORT OF PALM BAY ROAD.

THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO TALK THEM UP, SIR, AND SAY, HEY, THANK YOU.

I WENT THERE AND I MEAN, MR. MAYOR. YEAH, YEAH.

SO WHAT WAS. WHAT DID YOU LIKE THE MENU.

WHAT WAS ON? IT WAS GOOD.

I MEAN, IT WAS GOOD. WHAT'D YOU HAVE? I MEAN, THIS GUY, THEY.

HE STARTS MAKING POTATOES UP WHEN HE SEES ME FULL PULLING UP, SO I.

WHERE ARE THEY? I HAD SCRAMBLED EGGS.

I HAD HOME FRIES.

I MEAN, THEY MAKE IT, RIGHT? YOU GET EVERYTHING YOU NEED, AND YOU JUST WASTED MY RIGHT BEHIND.

I WANT TO I YIELD TO YOUR TIME.

COMPENSATORS. 30S.

I JUST 45.

WE CARRY ON, SIR.

YOU KNOW, REAL QUICK YESTERDAY AT THE ZONING MEETING, THERE WAS AN OUTFIT IN NEW JERSEY, AND I'M A JERSEY BOY MYSELF.

BUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IS PUT 428 RENT CONTROL HOMES ON MALABAR ROAD SOUTH OF SAINT JOHNS.

AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, MALABAR ROAD NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED AND YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, WE'D BE ABLE TO YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKING THAT.

RIGHT. THIS WAS A DISASTER.

NOW, THANK GOD THE THE ZONING BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO TURN THAT DOWN.

BUT WE GOT TO LOOK FOR FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS.

AND I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, DUMP AND RUN IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

NOW, YOU GREW UP IN A BRONX.

I GREW UP IN JERSEY CITY.

MY SISTER WAS IN A RENT CONTROLLED APARTMENT IN 30 YEARS.

SHE GOT MUGGED THREE TIMES.

OKAY. WITH THE DRUGS THAT ARE OUT TODAY, WE GOT TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL.

THIS IS THAT MINDSET FROM THE NEW YORK, NEW JERSEY, CONNECTICUT TRI STATE AREA.

WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE I UNDERSTAND WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHEN YOU GET INTO THE RENT CONTROL STUFF IT'S TOUGH AND IT'S DRUG INFESTED TOO.

SO KEEP AN EYE ON THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

AND THE NEXT. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE CITY A LONG TIME, AND I'VE WATCHED DIRECTORS WITHIN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS GO, COME AND GO.

WE GO THROUGH DIRECTORS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY FASTER THAN I GO THROUGH TOILET PAPER.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S I UNDERSTAND WHY IT HAPPENS.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST SUCH A SHAME TO SEE IT HAPPEN, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING THE BIG DECISIONS WITHIN THE STADIUM.

CHRIS LITTLE AND I WEREN'T ALWAYS ON THE SAME SIDE, AND I SEEMED LIKE I ALWAYS PICKED ON HIM, BUT THAT'S JUST ME WATCHING THE DOLLAR WITHIN THE CITY.

BUT I'M SORRY TO SEE CHRIS GO BECAUSE HE HAD A MASSIVE ENDEAVOR AHEAD OF HIM.

IF HE WOULD HAVE STILL BEEN HERE, BECAUSE THIS THING THAT'S COMING DOWN THE PIKE WITH THE SEPTIC AND THE CONVERSION FOR THE CITIES, IT'S GOING TO BE MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR DILEMMA.

AND IF HE WAS BAILING OUT BECAUSE OF THAT, I DON'T BLAME HIM.

I WOULD BAIL TOO, IF THAT'S WHAT I WAS FACING.

THE SECOND ITEM WAS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH WITHIN THE.

A FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS BASED UPON THE POPULATION OF PALM BAY.

THAT'S WHAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE.

WELL, LET'S SEE, IT'S EASY TO SAY.

COME ON IN, FOLKS.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

GIVE ME YOUR TAX DOLLAR.

BUT IT'S THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MEET THE COMMITMENT TO COINCIDE WITH MAKING IT A SAFE CITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT OUR CHARTER IS SUPPOSED TO DO.

WELL, THERE'S A SOLUTION TO THAT.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS BASED UPON THE POPULATION OF THE CITY.

IF YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT CAN'T MAINTAIN WITHIN THAT WITHIN WHAT YOUR POPULATION IS, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD HOLD OFF ON THE GROWTH OF THE CITY BY POPULATION.

IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD.

YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER.

BUT YOU HAVE THE CONTROL OF THE OF THE GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY.

YOU HAVE THAT.

SO I'M JUST SAYING.

YOU COULD SLOW IT. YOU COULD MEET THAT MANDATE STRICTLY BY LIMITING THE GROWTH WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

YOU WOULD MEET YOUR OBJECTIVE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

BUT IN 219 TRENTON AVENUE.

I THINK THAT'S CALLED A SWITCH BOX.

THAT WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THERE'S ONE UP ON JUPITER THAT'S BEING HELD UP BY TWO BY FOURS.

JUST. IT'S JUST EAST OF EMERSON ON JUPITER.

THERE'S A CHURCH THERE ON THE CORNER.

THERE'S. I THINK IT'S CALLED A SWITCH BOX IS WHAT THAT IS.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU GUYS KEEP TALKING ABOUT FIRES AND ALL THAT.

HOW MANY OF YOU REMEMBER THE MOTHER'S DAY FIRES? YEAH. HOW QUICK THAT GOT OUT OF CONTROL? YEAH. AND NOW WE'VE GOT HOUSES AT THE STREAM END.

SOUTH END OF BABCOCK.

THE OTHER DAY, I SEEN FIRE TRUCKS TRYING TO GET UP BABCOCK DURING THE RUSH HOUR.

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SO HOW'S THE FIRE TRUCK? GET AROUND. THEY HAVE TO PROCEED IN FRONT OF THE FIRE TRUCK OR RUN OFF IN A DITCH.

SO THAT'S ALL I GOT.

STILL ON WITH SOUTH CAROLINA TO WIN, THOUGH.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

GOOD NIGHT. SIR. YEAH, THIS THOSE FIRES.

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A MIXTURE OF DRYNESS, DRY SEASON AND THE WIND.

IT JUST WENT OUT OF CONTROL.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST ANYTHING OR JUST TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.