ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO CALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
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REGULAR MEETING NUMBER 2024, DASH ZERO FIVE TO ORDER.I ASKED MR. GOOD TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
PLEASE STAND. OPPOSED TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, MR. BOEREMA. PRESENT.
MR. JAFFE ASKED TO BE EXCUSED, MISS JORDAN.
PRESENT. MR. MCLEOD HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED.
AND OUR SCHOOL BOARD. BOARD APPOINTEE POSITION IS STILL VACANT.
AND OUR CHIEF DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ IS PRESENT.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING 2020 4-04.SO SOMEBODY GOT IT RIGHT HERE A SECOND SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR..
GOOD. SECONDED BY MR. WARNER FOR THE ADOPTION OF MINUTES.
CALL THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE.
ALL RIGHT. NOW, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANTS IN THE AUDIENCE.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.
THE MEETING PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'LL FIRST HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION, THEN THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.
AT THIS TIME, THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN ADHERING TO THESE MEETING GUIDELINES.
[OLD/UNFINISHED BUSINESS]
NOW THAT SAID, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO OLD AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE.
IS THAT CORRECT? ALL RIGHT, THAT IS CORRECT.
SO DO I HEAR A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT CASE MOTION? MOTION TO CONTINUE TO HEAR SECOND, SECOND.
OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. GOODE, SECONDED BY MRS. JORDAN TO CONTINUE CASE PS 20 3-00009 TO THE JULY 3RD REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[NEW BUSINESS]
THE SECOND ORDER UNDER NEW BUSINESS HAS A SIMILAR REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO THE SEVEN THREE MEETING.DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION TO MOVE PS 23 00011 TO THE 3RD JULY BOARD MEETING.
SECOND. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. WARNER SECONDED BY MR..
CASE PS 20 3-00011 TO THE REGULAR PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ON JULY 3RD.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AS WELL.
THAT BRINGS US TO NEW BUSINESS.
OUR FIRST CASE IS VICTORY 20 4-00002.
AND I WILL DEFER TO MISS RAMOS.
THANK YOU. SO CASE V 20 4-00002 IS A VARIANCE APPLICATION.
AND THE APPLICANT IS EVERLY MAE REAL ESTATE FUND LLC.
THE LOCATION IS AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF AGORA CIRCLE SOUTHEAST AND THOR AVENUE SOUTHEAST.
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APPROXIMATELY 3.22 ACRES.WELL, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A 12 FOOT SEPARATION INSTEAD OF THE REQUIRED 30FT BETWEEN TWO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS LOCATED ON THE SAME PROPERTY AS ESTABLISHED BY SECTION 185 .038, SUBSECTION F7 E OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
AND IN ANALYSIS, THE LOCATION OF POWER LINES AND AN EASEMENT BETWEEN THE LOTS INSTEAD OF ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY IS CREATING SPECIAL CONDITIONS PECULIAR TO THIS PROPERTY, SINCE THE LOTS ARE BEING COMBINED FOR A LARGER DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT PROVIDED AND INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE IS SOME SUPPORTING CORRESPONDENCE THEY HAD WITH FPL, WHERE THEY DISCUSSED TRYING TO GET THESE POWER LINES RELOCATED OR UNDERGROUND, BUT THEY WERE UNABLE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT OR GIVE PERMISSION FOR THAT.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF CASE V 24 00002.
AND. WITH THE VARIANCE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MUST DETERMINE, BASED ON THE FACTS PRESENTED, TO WHAT DEGREE, IF ANY, OF MINIMAL RELIEF IS REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE VARIANCE BEING REQUESTED AS REQUIRED UNDER SECTION ONE.
69.009 OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL REVIEW SO STAFF IS AVAILABLE IN. THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE SITE PLAN IS ON THE SCREEN.
IT'S A LITTLE BUSY THERE, BUT I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU THE SEPARATION AND WE DREW IN WHERE THE POWER LINE IS RUNNING AND HOW THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH FPL'S REQUESTS.
MR. CHAIR, JUST JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO FOR ULTRA CAUTION FROM HERE FORWARD.
V240002 IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.
EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT.
JUST DIVULGE IF YOU HAD HIM, WHO YOU SPOKE WITH AND THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO DISCLOSE SUCH A COMMUNICATION? SEEING NONE. OKAY.
THAT'S IT. THAT SAID, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIR. MR. WARNER. THE QUESTION I HAVE IS WILL THIS WILL WILL THIS VARIANCE AFFECT THE PROJECT OR ACTUALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH FPL IN THE DISTANT FUTURE IF THIS IS APPROVED? I MEAN, CAN THEY STILL GET IS THE EASEMENT STILL AVAILABLE TO THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE POWER LINES IF ONCE THEY BUILD ON THEIR.
SO THE EASEMENTS ALL WILL MOVE TO THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
THAT'S STATED ON THE PLAT THAT THIS PROPERTY IS RECORDED ON.
BUT THE FPL POWER LINE, THAT EASEMENT WILL STAY.
AND I SPOKE WITH THE CITY SURVEYOR ABOUT IT AND THEY ARE OKAY TO HAVE LIKE PARKING UNDERNEATH IT.
THEY'RE MEETING THE SEPARATION THAT FPL REQUESTED FROM THE POWER LINES TO THE BUILDING.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COULD I HAVE, MR. FOREMAN, PLEASE? HAS SOMEBODY REACHED OUT TO FPL THEN TO ASK HIM IF THEY CAN POSSIBLY BE MOVED THEIR POWER LINE? THE APPLICANTS DID, AND I INCLUDED THAT CORRESPONDENCE IN IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
SO THEY THEY DID TALK WITH FPL FOR LOOKING FOR OTHER OPTIONS.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, I'LL JUMP IN AND ASK YOU, MISS RAMOS.
I SAW A BRIEF REFLECTION FROM FIRE WHEN ITS CONCERNED TO THE THE PROXIMITY OF THE BUILDINGS.
BUT I WAS CURIOUS AND FORGIVE IF THERE WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART, BUT IF THERE WAS ANY, LIKE, EXPANSION TO THAT INFORMATION, IF THEY REALLY PONTIFICATED IT AT ALL, AT HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF THE BUILDINGS.
SO I ASKED FIRE AND BUILDING ABOUT IT, AND THEY JUST SAID THAT IT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT IS GOING ALONG THE WALL, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW MUCH GLAZING THEY HAVE, WHAT KIND OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS THEY'RE USING.
BUT FOR SITE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD STILL BE A VIABLE OPTION.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE THAT FURTHER INFORMATION.
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GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS WESLEY MILLS WITH MILLS SHORTEN ASSOCIATES.I'M THE ENGINEER OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
I THINK I HEARD TWO AREAS OF OF CONCERN OR CLARIFICATION.
BUT WE DID COORDINATE WITH THEM ON, ON ACCESS AND MAINTENANCE FOR THAT LINE.
AS FAR AS THE CLARIFICATION ON THE BUILDINGS AND FIRE.
THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT WILL NEED TO BE MET FOR THAT.
THAT CONCLUDES YOUR PRESENTATION.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE. UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING ELSE.
OKAY. SO WE'LL START WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
NO QUESTION CHAD. SO TRANSITION.
THANK YOU SIR. STAND BY FOR JUST A MOMENT OKAY.
OH NO. EXCUSE ME. NOT ON THIS ONE.
FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? AND IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? THE GENTLEMAN ON THE RIGHT.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
OR THEY COULD MAKE ONE LARGE BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THE SPACING IN BETWEEN, AND IT WOULD STILL HAVE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS COMING ALL THE WAY AROUND IT, WHICH MEANS WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE WITH WHAT WE PUT IN OUR ORDINANCE OF 30FT BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS JUST BECAUSE OF SYMPTOM LIKE A FIRE.
WHY TEMPT FATE? ITEM NUMBER TWO THEY HAVE 96 PARKING SPACES FOR THE 48 RESIDENTS.
BUT THAT AND THEN THAT GIVES EIGHT EXTRA PARKING SPOTS FOR 48 PEOPLE FOR 48 RESIDENCES.
WHAT IF ANYBODY HAS A VISITOR COME TO THE TO THEIR APARTMENT? THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO PARK.
LITERALLY. SO THEY'VE MADE 96 OUT OF WHICH WITH AN EIGHT WHICH GAVE EIGHT EXTRA PARKING.
SO THAT LITERALLY LEAVES FOUR PARKING SPOTS FOR PEOPLE TO PARK THAT COME TO VISIT.
JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
SO THE OTHER SIDE ABOUT THAT ONE IS THERE'S NO GARAGES WITH THIS.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SINCE THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE IN THESE APARTMENT WHERE THERE'S NO GARAGES OR INDIVIDUAL PARKING THAT CAN ASSOCIATE WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STORE THEIR EXCESS BELONGINGS.
AND GUESS WHAT? A SELF STORAGE UNIT, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE ON THE SITE FOR THAT.
SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO A SELF STORAGE UNIT.
JUST THE TWO ITEMS THAT I THINK YOU COULD LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.
1796 WEINBERG DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.
I'M KIND OF LIKE AN OBVIOUS, SIMPLISTIC KIND OF GUY.
I'VE BEEN IN A LOT OF THINGS IN MY LIFE, BUT IS THAT REALLY OKAY WITH THE ZONING BOARD? I MEAN, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THIS 12FT? I'D BE CURIOUS WHAT THEY'RE MADE OF BECAUSE THIS BABY'S MADE OUT OF WOOD.
BUT. SO YOU GOT YOU GOT ELECTRICAL RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS.
YOU'VE GOT A LACK OF PARKING, LACK OF ACCOMMODATIONS.
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FELIX LAST MEETING HAD MENTIONED HE HAD AN EMERGENCY.THERE WAS AN EMERGENCY CALL IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
TOOK 19 MINUTES FOR THE RESPONSE.
I, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THIS AND IT'S LIKE ALL THE WARNING GOES UP IN MY HEAD.
I MEAN, THESE THINGS ARE TINDERBOXES WAITING TO HAPPEN.
TO ME, IT'S JUST IT SMACKS YOU IN THE FACE OF LAST THING I WOULD WANT.
ANY OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS IS IN AN AREA LIKE THIS.
I'D LIKE TO TO PRESENTER OVER HERE TO COME UP AND TELL ME WHAT THESE THINGS ARE MADE OF.
REALLY? IT'S A DISASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT.
SURE. SO I HEAR A CONCERN OF OF FIRE.
SO THESE BUILDINGS WILL MEET THE CURRENT FIRE BUILDING CODES.
THEY'LL BE CONSTRUCTED OUT OF BLOCK.
THEY'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL MEET ALL THE CURRENT CODES.
SO THEY'LL BE SAFER THAN ANYTHING EXISTING THAT'S CONSTRUCTED.
SO I DON'T REALLY SEE A CONCERN WITH FIRE.
SO I THINK YOU KNOW, THAT ALONE SHOULD, SHOULD, SHOULD ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AS FAR AS PARKING GOES IS WE, WE MEET THE IT REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.
WE HAVE FOR OTHER PROJECTS HERE IN THE CITY, ONE THAT'S APPROVED AND BEING BUILT.
SO WE FEEL LIKE IT FULLY ADDRESSES THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND DEMANDS FOR THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT.
SO WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE FULLY ADDRESSING ALL THOSE ISSUES.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE, SIR.
I'LL ASK YOU BRIEFLY WHERE IS THE OTHER PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE BUILDING? THE THE OTHER ONE THAT HAS A PERMIT RIGHT NOW THAT IS STARTING CONSTRUCTION IS NOT FAR FROM HERE, PROBABLY WITHIN 500FT.
YES, SIR. IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY.
BOARD MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING ALL EVIDENCE, ARE THERE FURTHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN. YES.
MR. BOEREMA, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY SINCE THE POWER LINES ARE RUNNING THROUGH THE PROPERTY ANYWAY TO UTILIZE SOME OF THAT AS PARKING? I'M SURE FPL WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
YOU'RE NOT DISTURBING THE PROPERTY AT ALL.
THAT WOULD MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS FOR PARKING ADJACENT BUILDINGS.
ONE OF THE THE MEMBER OR ONE OF THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS SAID ABOUT MAKING ONE BUILDING SMALLER AND ANOTHER ONE BIGGER TO MAINTAIN THAT 30FT. OR IF YOU DO GET THE OKAY TO MAKE THEM CLOSER, CAN THEY BE LIKE FIREWALLS? COULD THEY BE CONCRETE OR CINDERBLOCK ON THOSE TWO EDGES? DEFER TO THE APPLICANT. YES, YES.
YEAH. WHERE THE BLUE LINE IS ON, ON THE PLAN.
WE HAVE PARKING ESSENTIALLY UNDERNEATH OR WITHIN THAT.
AND SO IT WILL MEET THE FIRE REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL THE CODES.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR. MR. WARNER. YEAH. I ALSO HAD THE SAME CONCERNS AS TO WHY WE COULD.
WHY, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ALREADY ZONED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE TWO APARTMENT BUILDINGS PRACTICALLY THE SAME SIZE WHEN YOU CAN, WHEN YOU CAN POSSIBLY JUST TAKE DOWN SOME REMOVE SOME OF THAT SO THAT YOU COULD MAKE THE PROJECT VIABLE FOR THAT, FOR THAT FOR THAT AREA.
AND, AND SO I CAN TALK IN GENERAL TERMS ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT.
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CODES WORK, IT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF AREA THAT YOU CAN HAVE FOR THE UNITS.SO EITHER WE WOULD LOSE DENSITY AND, OR MOSTLY WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOSE DENSITY.
AND SO WHEN WE LOSE DENSITY, IT DOESN'T PROVIDE IT PROVIDES LESS FUNDS FOR US TO CREATE A PRETTIER, NICER, MORE ENHANCED TYPE PROJECT TO MAKE IT VIABLE.
DO I HEAR A MOTION ON THIS CASE? OR ANY POINTS OF DISCUSSION.
I DID HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, WHICH I DIDN'T I DON'T RECALL SEEING IN THE PACKAGE.
MR. WARNER HOW MANY HOW MANY RESIDENTS ARE WE? ARE WE CONSIDERING WITH THIS, WITH THIS PROJECT? IT WOULD BE 4848.
I JUST FEEL LIKE THE THE VARIANCE IS THERE FOR I MEAN THE THAT I'M SORRY I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT SPACE THAT THE REQUIREMENT IS THERE IS, YOU KNOW, FOR SAFETY REASONS.
AND SO I MEAN MY OPINION IS I AND THE REASON THEY'RE NOT GOING TO A LARGER BUILDING IS BECAUSE FOR SAFETY REASONS, THEY NEED TO HAVE A DIFFERENT FIRE CODE.
SO MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY THE SAME.
I'LL TAKE THE CHANCE TO SHARE MY SENTIMENT AND SAY THAT I FEEL IN A SIMILAR WAY.
IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE, HAD IT NOT BEEN MERGED INTO ONE AWKWARDLY SHAPED PROPERTY.
SO THAT WAS ALL, YOU KNOW, DECISIONS PREVIOUSLY MADE.
AND TO LOOK AT A VARIANCE TO OUR CODE TO I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM, BUT I DON'T HAVE A BETTER ONE TO CRAM MORE PEOPLE IN CLOSER TO THE POWER LINE.
IT JUST IT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME, BUT THAT'S THAT'S MY $0.02.
IS THERE ANY MOTION ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE? WELL, AGAIN, THIS IS A THIS IT'S A DIFFICULT ONE BECAUSE I CAN SEE HOW THE VARIANCE WOULD, WOULD WORK.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THIS ALL COMES BACK DOWN TO SAFETY AND FIRE.
SO WE MAY BE MOTION TO DENY V 20 4-00002.
CLOSED. WELL, GIVEN WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR WE HAVE TO SEE THAT MOTION THROUGH WITH A SECOND OR WHAT? HAVE YOU ENTERED THE DISCUSSION? AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE THAT LOGISTICALLY OUT.
BUT WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. WARNER, SECONDED BY MR. BOEREMA. TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL DENIAL OF CASE VICTORY 24 00002.
PROCEDURALLY WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE ENDED OUR QUESTIONS.
WE'RE AT THE POINT OF EMOTION.
I'M SORRY, SIR, WE DID CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT SAID, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SHALL WE CALL THE QUESTION? COMMON QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. SO THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND FOR DENIAL PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND CASE IS CASE SIU 20 4-00002.
I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MISS RAMOS.
OKAY. KQ 20 4-00002 IS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE LIFE CHANGERS OUTREACH REGIMENT INCORPORATED, AND THE PRESIDENT IS CHERYL ANN FLETCHER.
THEY ARE REPRESENTED THIS EVENING BY K.J.
LEWIS AND MICHAEL DUKHOVNY FROM VOKE LAW OFFICES.
IT'S SPECIFICALLY 2100 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.
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THE SITE IS THREE ACRES IN SIZE.THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL TO ALLOW A PROPOSED PRIVATE SCHOOL IN AN RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 185 .034 D1 OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
IN ANALYSIS, THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE INDICATES THE SITE WAS FIRST DEVELOPED IN 1966 AS A CHURCH, AND THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A SKETCH ILLUSTRATING THE EXISTING LAYOUT OF THE SITE.
THEY DO NOT PROPOSE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES EXCEPT THOSE REQUIRED FOR THE OPERATION OF A PRIVATE SCHOOL AT THIS TIME, SO THEY'RE NOT ANTICIPATING ADDING ANY BUILDINGS. ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS.
THE APPLICANT PREVIOUSLY HAD A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL UNDER RESOLUTION 2022, DASH 63, WHICH WAS ENACTED IN DECEMBER 6TH, 2022 AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT DID NOT OBTAIN THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVAL WITH ONE YEAR WITHIN ONE YEAR OF THE RESOLUTION EFFECTIVE DATE, SO THE CURRENT CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST IS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH ADDITIONAL TIME TO GAIN THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND IS IS IN REVIEW.
AND IT'S GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO APPROVAL.
SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
BUT THEY NEEDED THE ADDITIONAL TIME.
AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR REFERENCE THAT AFTER THEIR PREVIOUS APPROVAL WE HAD A CODE REVISION TO SECTION 185 .089 IN JULY OF 23, WHICH ALLOWED TWO YEARS INSTEAD OF THE ONE YEAR THAT THIS SITE WAS SUBJECT TO TO GAIN THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SO FOR THIS CASE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS MATTER IS QUASI JUDICIAL, I JUST WANT TO ADVISE IF ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE HAD ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE APPLICANTS, AND IF YOU HAVE JUST STATE THE NATURE OF THE CONVERSATION, WHO YOU HAD IT WITH, THAT'S ALL YOU NEED TO DO.
DID ANYONE HAVE WISH TO DISCLOSE SAID COMMUNICATIONS? NO, NONE.
THANKS AGAIN. SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AT THIS TIME. SEEING NONE.
LEWIS. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR LIVE CHAMBERS OUTREACH REGIMENT.
WE HAVE OUR PRESIDENT, DOCTOR FLETCHER, WHO IS WITH US TODAY.
JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR SCHOOL.
LIKE MISSUS RAMOS HAS SAID SHE'S BEEN WORKING WITH US AND WORKING ALONGSIDE TO SUPPORT SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE TO CONTINUE IT. AND SO JUST SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US.
WE'VE BEEN OPEN FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS.
WE ARE A PRIVATE SCHOOL THAT EXISTS.
AND SO WE HAVE MADE AN IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND ONE OF OUR MISSION AND VISION THAT EVERY CHILD COMES TO OUR DOOR, THEY SUCCEED AND LEAVE.
JUST EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF OF OF LIVING AND NOT JUST EXISTING.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S THERE CAN NEVER BE NOT ENOUGH ENOUGH SCHOOLS AND GOOD SCHOOLS.
ESPECIALLY IN OUR GROWING CITY THAT WE CALL PALM BAY.
AND SO WE ARE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME.
AND FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS ONE LETTER IN THE FILE PERTAINING TO THIS CASE.
FLOOR IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE FIVE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE.
THE FIRST ONE IS PRIVATE SCHOOL IN SES TWO ZONING THAT IS AUTHORIZED UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE.
BUT THAT CONDITIONAL IS THAT THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT WAS IMPORTANT. NO NEGATIVE IMPACT.
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HOUR, PEOPLE ARE GOING 20 MILES AN HOUR INSTEAD OF THE 45 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONE TIME FRAMING.YOU MUST MAKE A U TURN OUT ONTO PORT MALABAR.
WHEN YOU EXIT FROM THE SCHOOL, YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE AN EXIT OUT ONTO PORT MALABAR.
THE PEOPLE WILL COME OUT INTO THE TRAFFIC ON PORT MALABAR, GO AROUND TO THE NEXT TURN LANE AREA AND THEN MAKE A U TURN INTO THE WESTBOUND TRAFFIC, CAUSING ANOTHER TRAFFIC BACKUP.
STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THEY COULD HAVE A LESS REQUIRED PARKING BECAUSE THEY WILL PARK ON THE GRASS.
NOW, ME BEING THE PERSON SAYS, YOU IMPOSE RULES ON ME.
IMPOSE THOSE SAME RULES ON EVERYBODY ELSE.
THE CITY HAD JUST PASSED AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL NOT ALLOW HOMEOWNERS TO PARK ON THEIR OWN LAWN IN THEIR OWN HOUSE, YET THEY'RE GOING TO ALLOW LESS PARKING FOR A SCHOOL ZONE SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE? SHOULD BE GOOD FOR THE GANDER.
THAT'S PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
I BELIEVE THE LAST ITEM, NUMBER FIVE.
STACKING OF TRAFFIC IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE FOR THEM TO PARK TO STACK.
RIGHT. WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE PROBLEM IN LOCHMOR RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT. IF WE ALREADY SEE A PROBLEM, WHY IMPOSE MORE IN ANOTHER AREA? IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.
WHY REPEAT HISTORY WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND.
YES. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE FIRST OR ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS.
SO IN REGARDS TO THE SCHOOL, SO THE SCHOOL HAS THE CAPACITY OF 50 STUDENTS.
OUR GOAL IS NOT TO GROW ANY MORE THAN THAT.
WE SPECIALIZE IN SMALL CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION.
SO WE HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF OUR FAMILIES THAT MAY EITHER PICK UP WE DO HAVE A SHUTTLE, AND WE DO HAVE A LOT OF AFTER SCHOOL CLUBS FOR STEM ROBOTICS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT THAT OUR PARENTS PARTICIPATE IN.
AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE DON'T PROPOSE ANY ISSUES OF TRAFFIC STACKING.
OUR PARKING LOOP IS APPROXIMATELY 752FT² LONG.
SORRY. 700. YEAH, 752FT² LONG.
AND SO, LIKE, I SPOKE TO THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WE DON'T EVER SEE THERE BEING AN ISSUE OF STACKING, BUT IF THERE EVER IS AN ISSUE WE DO HAVE TWO LANES TO UTILIZE FROM ANY BACKUP AND PREVENTION.
LIKE I SAID, WE SPECIALIZE IN THAT NUMBER AND WE SPECIALIZE FOR CHILDREN.
AND SO AGAIN, AS FAR AS THE COMING OUT OF, I BELIEVE, ONTO PORT MALABAR TO MAKE THE U-TURN AGAIN WE WHEN WE DO OUR DISMISSAL OR OUR PICK UP AND DROP OFF WE DON'T DO ALL THAT ONE TIME.
I KNOW THERE IS SOME SCHOOLS THEY MAY HAVE BACKUP BECAUSE THEY'RE WAY LARGER INSTITUTIONS, OR THEY MAY HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH BEING ON THE ROAD, BUT WE DISMISS AT CERTAIN TIMES.
SO, YOU KNOW, OUR BUS RIDERS GO FIRST, THEY LEAVE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE REST OF OUR SCHOOL.
SO AGAIN, WE DO HAVE STOP SIGNS IN PLACE.
I BELIEVE WE'RE GETTING READY TO ONCE WE'VE BEEN APPROVED WE WILL PUT ADA STRIPE WALKS AND ALL THAT STUFF SO WE DON'T PROPOSE OR WE DON'T SEE ANY FUTURE ISSUE OF ANY, LIKE, FUTURE.
BACKUP. YES. YOU DO HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN, BUT IT IS LIKE DOWN THE ROAD.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE INSTANTLY MAKING A U-TURN AND SOMEONE IS STOPPING OR, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE THAT.
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SO YOU KNOW, WE DO PROPOSE THAT IT IS SAFE FOR THE PARENTS AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH OUR CAR LOOP.SO FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
BOARD MEMBERS AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? MR.. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
EXCUSE ME A QUESTION REGARDING THE INGRESS AND EGRESS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ACCESS OFF OF PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.
IS THERE ANY WAY BEYOND BIANCA CAN BE UTILIZED? SO WE ARE USING BIANCA RIGHT NOW.
SO SOME OF OUR STUDENTS THAT COME IN I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN GET BIGGER.
BUT SOME OF OUR STUDENTS ARE COMING IN OFF OF BIANCA.
THERE YOU GO. NO, ACTUALLY, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
THAT'S OKAY. SO RIGHT OFF OF BIANCA, WE DO HAVE WE ACTUALLY OPEN UP A CROSSWALK.
SO SOME OF OUR STUDENTS ARE COMING THROUGH THAT WAY.
ACTUALLY TAKING THE RECOMMENDATION FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
SO BUT BUT THERE'S NO ROADWAY FOR VEHICLES.
NO. BECAUSE SO, SO SO THE TWO PARKING LOTS ARE TWO WAY IN AND THEN IT'S ONE WAY OUT.
SO THERE THERE IS NOT ANOTHER WAY ON BIANCA BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IT'S A CORNER PROPERTY.
SO IT HAS YOU KNOW, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY UNLESS WE GO BACKWARDS.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY OR SORRY, TWO WAYS INTO THE PROPERTY AND THEN ONE WAY OUT.
YES, SIR. SO, SIR, WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED THERE IS.
SO THE SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY CURRENTLY OPERATING.
I'M SORRY YOUR SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY OPERATING NOW OR WHAT'S WHAT'S AT THE SITE NOW.
THAT'S A CHURCH. YES, SIR. I REMEMBER THE CHURCH.
YEAH. SO THERE'S A CHURCH THERE NOW WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL.
RIGHT. SO YOU'RE PLANNING TO CONTINUE WITH THE CHURCH AS WELL AS JUST HAVE THE SCHOOL? YES. DURING THE OPEN DURING THE WEEK? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND THE AND THE SCHOOL ITSELF IS GOING TO BE PRIMARILY FOR, FOR CHILDREN WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
OR ARE WE LOOKING AT ARE YOU LOOKING AT CHILDREN THAT BE BUSSED IN FROM, FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS? SO, I MEAN, THERE'S NOT REALLY MUCH OF A ZONING THAT WE LOOK AT.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A HUGE DEMAND FOR SCHOOLS IN THE AREA.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME PARENTS THAT MAY DRIVE THEIR CHILDREN FROM, FROM VIERA.
WE HAVE SOME PARENTS THAT COME IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS AS WELL.
SO THERE'S LIKE A REALLY SMALL VARIETY OF, OF EACH ONE.
BUT WE REALLY BUSSED FOR OUR STUDENTS THAT LIVE OUT IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF OUR SCHOOL THAT, THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD TRANSPORTATION, MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD, YOU KNOW, BUSSING OR SO WE PROVIDE THAT TO THEM SO THAT THEY CAN GET TO SCHOOL AND GET A GOOD QUALITY EDUCATION.
OKAY. SO AND WHAT I'M LEADING TO IS I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE CAPPING THIS AT 50 STUDENTS.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR FUTURE PLANS? SO AT THIS TIME THERE ARE THERE ARE NO DISCUSSION FOR FUTURE PLANS.
I THINK IT WORKS FOR IT WORKS WELL FOR US.
AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO STAY THERE FOR NOW.
SO. YEAH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE QUESTION, MR.. MR. BAUM. SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN MENTIONED YET OR NOT.
HOW MANY STUDENTS DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN THE SCHOOL? SO OUR OUR CAP IS 5050.
I'LL ASK, HOW MANY CLASSROOMS DO YOU HAVE AND HOW MANY GRADES DO YOU REPRESENT? WITHIN THAT WE HAVE ABOUT NINE, NINE CLASSROOMS. NINE OF TEN CLASSROOMS. AND THEN WE AND WE'RE K THROUGH 12.
NO PROBLEM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, I'LL ASK IF THERE IS A MOTION IN REFERENCE TO THIS CASE.
I MY BOTH MY CHILDREN WENT TO A CHARTER TYPE SCHOOL.
AND I THINK THERE'S A NEED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS.
SO I SECOND IF WE CAN MR. CHAIR, IF WE CAN JUST AMEND THE MOTION JUST A LITTLE BIT JUST TO INCLUDE ALL THE STAFF COMMENTS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE PLACED IN THERE.
MOTION WAS BY MRS JORDAN AND IT WAS SECOND BY MR..
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WELL, THAT WOULD BE I'M NOT SURE HOW GERMANE THAT IS, BECAUSE MY INTERPRETATION IS THAT THE STAFF REPORT AND ALL OF ITS COMMENTS ARE WHAT WILL GO ALONG WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT I'LL DEFER TO THE STAFF FOR ANY KIND OF TEXTURE BEHIND THAT.HOWEVER IT IS NOT WRONG TO THEN AMEND A MOTION TO STATE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
AND THE RECOMMENDATION INCLUDES ALL OF THE STAFF DATA AND COMMENTS SUBMITTED WITH, WITH THE REPORT.
IT'S NOT INCORRECT TO STATE THAT, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT.
THE THE THE THE FIRST MOTION AND THE SECOND MOTION NEEDS TO BE AGREED UPON THAT CHANGE.
OKAY. SO THEN I'LL ASK IF YOU WISH TO REMOVE YOUR SECOND AND REMOVE YOUR MOTION.
AND WE HAVE THIS THIS TALK OF A NEW ONE.
SURE. I WILL REMOVE MY SECOND SO WE CAN DISCUSS.
OKAY. SO THAT MOTION IS OFF THE FLOOR.
MRS JORDAN. I'LL REMOVE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, AND I'LL.
SAY IT AGAIN WITH MOTION TO APPROVE.
SEE 24 00002, SUBJECT TO THE STAFF COMMENTS CONTAINED IN THE REPORT, AND I WILL SECOND.
OKAY, SO THAT MOTION GIVEN BY MRS. JORDAN, SECONDED BY MR. GOODE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO IT? YES, PLEASE. MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. BAUGHMAN, ONE QUESTION THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK IT PERTAINING TO THE LETTER WE DID GET ABOUT THIS CASE, ABOUT A VEHICLE THAT'S PARKED, THAT'S AN EYESORE.
YES, SIR. IS THAT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? SO WE HAVE A SO READING BRIEF FOR THE LETTER, I THINK IT WAS ADDRESSING THE.
WE HAVE A U-HAUL THAT'S OUT THERE THAT RUNS AND OPERATES.
BUT IF IF THEY WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE IT, WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS MOVING IT.
WE WANT TO BE A PIECE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
AND THEY'RE MENTIONING THAT THEY'VE TRIED SEVERAL TIMES TO GET YOU TO MOVE THAT.
BUT IT CAN BE MOVED TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
WE HAVE SPACE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE WE CAN MOVE IT.
EVEN IF NOT THERE. THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A.
YEAH. YOU WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS DOING THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SO I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE. THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
CASE NUMBER C, U 20 4-00002 IS RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL PENDING STAFF COMMENTS.
THANK YOU. THE APPLICANT IS DRP FLORIDA SIX LLC REPRESENTED BY BRC CONSULTANTS.
LOCATION IS IN THE VICINITY EAST OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.
NORTHWEST NORTH OF EMERSON DRIVE NORTHWEST.
THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THIS AREA IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE EXISTING ZONING IS PUD PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THE SIZE OF APPROXIMATELY 23.81 ACRES. THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT TO ALLOW FOR A 64 LOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS RIVERWOOD AT EVELYN'S PHASE THREE.
AND THIS WILL CONSIST OF 64 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ALL PARCELS WILL BE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
PHASE THREE ALSO INCLUDES TRACT ONE, ALCOVE POINT DRIVE, WHICH IS A 2.55 ACRE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO BE DEDICATED TO THE CITY WITH ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISIONS LIFT STATION, AND ONCE THE PLAT HAS BEEN RECORDED, THE QUITCLAIM DEED WILL FOR THE UTILITY SITE SHALL BE SUBMITTED AND SUBMITTED.
PLAT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 184 .08 OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS CASE FS 24 00001 FOR APPROVAL.
THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU MA'AM.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? AGAIN, I'LL MAKE A NOTATION.
THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER.
THEREFORE, JUST DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH THE APPLICANT.
ANYBODY WISH TO DISCLOSE SUCH COMMUNICATIONS? NONE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NONE. SO WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE COME FORTH AND PRESENT THEIR CASE? GOOD EVENING, ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BSE.
THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
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COMPLETELY ACCURATE.ONE THING I WOULD ADD ON THAT PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE TRACK Z1, I BELIEVE IT IS.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHILE IT IS A PUBLIC ROADWAY, BECAUSE IT WILL ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL PARCELS AND A MULTIFAMILY PARCEL THAT ARE OFF THAT ROAD. WE WILL BE ENTERING INTO A RIGHT OF WAY USE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY TO MAINTAIN THE LANDSCAPING, THE IRRIGATION, THE MONUMENT SIGN, AND SO ON SO THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY THE CITY WON'T BE REQUIRED TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF ANY OF THOSE FACILITIES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
THE NEXT PLAT, I'M TALKING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD.
THIS IS THE THIRD OF FOUR PHASES IN THIS COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE WELL UNDERWAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
AND THIS IS NOT THE AGE TARGETED COMMUNITY.
THAT COMMUNITY IS THE ONE TO THE SOUTH.
SO THIS IS PART OF THE OVERALL 398 UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL HAVE SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN IN IT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
AND FOR THE RECORD THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE FOR THIS CASE.
SO WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? MISTER BAT? BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, I NOTICED THAT IT DID NOT SHOW HOW THE STREET, I GUESS IN THE PACKET IS CALLED STREET A, HOW IT CONNECTS TO THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.
AND SHE SAID IT'S ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THAT GENERATED MY NEXT QUESTION.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC LIGHT WITH THAT TURN LANE COMING OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE OR NOT.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OF THE OF STREET A, IT'S A RIGHT NEXT TO IT IS THE IS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO ENTER OFF AT SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY INTO THAT LOT, OR IS IT GOING TO BE COMING IN OFF OF THEIR STREET? A THAT THAT'S IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD? THOSE TWO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO COMMENTS AND I APOLOGIZE.
I HAD TO RUN BACK AND GRAB MY PHONE BECAUSE I COULDN'T READ THE.
MY EYES WERE STARTING TO DECEIVE ME THESE DAYS.
SO OUR ROAD A IS CALLED CASTLEBERRY.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF PHASE ONE THAT WAS RECORDED.
THAT PLAT WAS RECORDED IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S JUST NORTH JUST NORTH OF THAT RED SQUARE.
YEP. AND SO RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WERE DONE AND THE ANALYSIS, THERE IS NO TRAFFIC LIGHT PLANNED FOR THAT INTERSECTION, NOR IS THERE ONE AT THE INTERSECTION AT EMERSON.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR THEIR SITE PLAN.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WE HAVE A SIDE PARTY AGREEMENT WITH THEM, THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPER OR LANDOWNER AND THE COMMERCIAL ENTITY, AND WE ARE PROVIDING THEM ACCESS TO OUR INTERNAL. CASTLEBERRY I THINK IT'S CALLED CASTLEBERRY LANE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I JUST GOT THEIR APPROVED DRIVEWAY LOCATION APPROVED THROUGH YOUR PUBLIC WORKS AND CITY ENGINEER, MR. FRANK WATANABE, EARLIER TODAY.
SO WE'RE REVISING OUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS TO SHOW THAT DRIVEWAY ACCESS THROUGH OUR MEDIAN AND WITHIN.
HOPEFULLY, I WOULD SAY FRIDAY, BUT THE WEEK FEELS LIKE IT'S GETTING SHORT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE APPLYING FOR ANYTHING FROM THE PARKWAY.
THANK YOU. SO WITH THE FLOOR NOW BEING CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.
I'LL ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS IF THERE ARE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF.
THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS CASTLEBURY ROAD YOU MENTIONED.
SO I MEAN, THE STAFF HAS SEEN OR HAS HAD A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WITH THEM.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE DOING SOME SORT OF LIKE A STORAGE OF SOME SORT.
I THINK STAFF WOULD PROBABLY BE BETTER OFF TO, TO ANSWER THOSE.
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I WOULD PRESUME THAT THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SAME SITE PLAN CONDITIONS AND APPROVALS THAT ALL OF THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND SO ON.SO IT'S ONE OF TWO. SO WE ALSO HAVE OUR OTHER MAIN ARTERY ACCESS IF YOU WILL IS OFF OF EMERSON.
SO OUR COMMUNITY IS FED BY ACCESS ON TWO POINTS.
AND WE HAVE GATES OFF OF THOSE.
BUT THEY'RE SET FAR BACK OFF THAT AREA SO THAT IT PROVIDES PROVIDES ACCESS TO THOSE PARCELS.
IS THERE LIKE A CENTRALIZED HUB WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, LIKE WHERE THE MAILBOXES ARE OR.
YEP. SO ALMOST WHERE MISS LISA'S TURNING.
THEY'RE CIRCLING THE ARROW JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THAT.
THERE'S ACTUALLY AN INTERNAL I'LL CALL IT A ROUNDABOUT AREA FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND SO ON.
OKAY. THAT GIVES ME SCOPE AND SCALE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ABSOLUTELY.
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. NO, JUST MR. WARNER, BECAUSE I'M WE'RE STILL HARPING ON THIS COMMERCIAL THING, AND I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
YOU REMEMBER HOW MUCH, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH LAND THERE WAS OR HOW MANY ACRES THERE WERE THAT SITES.
TWO ACRES. TWO ACRES OF COMMERCIAL.
THAT LITTLE RED SQUARE IS A TWO ACRE COMMERCIAL PARCEL.
OKAY, SO SEEING NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, DO WE HAVE A MOTION PERTAINING TO THIS CASE? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MOTION TO APPROVE F F S 24 00001.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MRS JORDAN, SECONDED BY MR. BOEREMA TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.
DO I HEAR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THIS IS NEW BUSINESS NUMBER FOUR.
AND I'LL DEFER TO MISS HAGLER.
ALL RIGHT. THIS AGAIN IS APPLICANT IS DRP FL6 LLC REPRESENTED BY BSK CONSULTANTS.
NORTHWEST. THE FUTURE LAND USE IS HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND THE SIZE OF THIS PHASE APPROXIMATELY 34 ACRES.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS APPROVAL FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT TO ALLOW FOR A PROPOSED 96 LOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO BE KNOWN AS RIVERWOOD EVELINE'S PHASE FOUR, AND THIS PHASE WILL CONSIST OF 96 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ALL PARCELS WILL BE 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS.
PHASE FOUR ALSO INCLUDES 1.91 ACRES OF WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA TO BE LOCATED WITHIN TRACT L.
ANOTHER ENTRANCE AT EMERSON DRIVE NORTHWEST WILL BE CONSTRUCTED AS PART OF PHASE THREE, AND THE SUBMITTED PLAT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION 184 .08 OF THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
AND RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS APPROVAL FOR FS 24 00002.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE. I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
AGAIN, NOTE THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTERS.
SO THE SAME THING. IF ANYBODY HAS ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS PLEASE DISCLOSE THEM.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMUNICATIONS THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCLOSE? SEEING? NONE, MA'AM.
AGAIN, THE FOURTH AND FINAL PHASE.
SO WE CAN SUBMIT THE FINAL VERSION PAPER COPIES.
AND JUST IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
OTHERWISE, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
FLOOR IS OPEN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST?
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DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBERS AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? I'M SEEING NONE, I WILL.
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST MAKE A COMMENT.
I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S NOT A LOT OF COMMERCIAL IN THESE, IN THESE IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS AT LEAST AT LEAST IT'S NOT THAT OVERWHELMING WHERE YOU'RE TALKING 234 HOME SITES.
SO IT'S IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A BAD LOOKING PROJECT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK, SIR.
THAT SAID, IS THERE A MOTION PERTAINING TO THIS CASE? MOTION TO APPROVE FS 24 0002.
SECOND. I HAD A MOTION BY MISS JORDAN, SECONDED BY MR. GOODE, TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL PENDING STAFF COMMENTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THAT CASE IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
THE NEXT CASE UNDER NEW BUSINESS CASE MOORE 24-00001.
AND I WILL DEFER TO MISS FRAZIER.
GOOD EVENING. BOARD. THIS EVENING I AM PRESENTING CASE MOORE 24 0001.
A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM PROHIBIT THE ACCEPTANCE, PROCESSING OR CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATIONS.
CAN WE HAVE YOU CLOSER TO THE MIC, MA'AM? I'M SO SORRY. I THOUGHT I HAD GOTTEN IT CLOSER, I APOLOGIZE.
TEMPORARY MORATORIUM TO PROHIBIT THE ACCEPTANCE, PROCESSING OR CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATIONS FOR A PERMIT OR DEVELOPMENT ORDER TO ALLOW SELF STORAGE FACILITIES ADOPTING FINDINGS OF FACT. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
PRESENTLY, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 16 SELF STORAGE FACILITIES IN OR NEAR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND APPROXIMATELY SIX ARE IN CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY STAFF.
THEY COULD BE RECENTLY SUBMITTED OR FURTHER ALONG.
AND THIS HAS BROUGHT BE BROUGHT TO STAFF FROM MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
SO I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD AS FAR AS BACKUP INFORMATION BESIDES WHAT I'VE JUST PRESENTED TO YOU NOW AND WHAT'S IN OUR STAFF REPORT.
SO I AM HERE TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION THAT I CAN.
THANK YOU MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. BOEREMA, DOES STAFF HAVE ANY IDEA ON THE LENGTH OF THIS MORATORIUM? YES, SIR. THEY THEY WERE.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT A SIX MONTH TEMPORARY MORATORIUM.
WE ARE AS YOU ALL KNOW IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.
AND THOUGH WE WILL BE TOUCHING ON OUR CONDITIONAL USE CRITERIA AND POSSIBLY SOME ITEMS THAT ARE FOUND IN OUR COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, SUCH AS THE SELF STORAGE UNITS AND OR THE THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS CAR WASHES.
I COULDN'T TELL YOU AT THIS POINT JUST HOW DIFFERENT IT WILL BE, BUT WE WILL BE UPDATING OUR OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES AND THAT WILL SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE BEST MANNER THAT THEY CAN.
AND SO THAT IS PERHAPS WHY THE SIX MONTH MORATORIUM WAS SUGGESTED.
THANK YOU. THE DRAFT ORDINANCE SAYS IT'S FOR SIX MONTHS UNLESS IT'S RESCINDED SOONER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER AND FOR THAT ADDED TEXTURE.
ANYBODY ELSE QUESTIONS? MRS. JORDAN. YES.
IS THERE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE NOT FINISHED WITH THE CODE? IS IT AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED, OR DOES IT COME BACK FOR A VOTE AGAIN FOR ANOTHER MORATORIUM? THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL? QUITE FRANKLY. BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO SUGGEST.
I MEAN, BECAUSE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS.
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MAY. JUNE, JULY.AUGUST. SEPTEMBER. THAT'S FIVE MONTHS.
SO THAT IS WHY, RIGHTFULLY, THE ATTORNEY HAS POINTED OUT THAT IT COULD BE LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.
I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT THEY ARE PUTTING THIS MORATORIUM IN PLACE JUST FOR THAT REASON, BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY A COMPELLING REASON. TO MAKE SURE OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE HAS BEEN UPDATED AND WE ARE MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR ARENA.
AND THE SHORT LEGAL ANSWER IS THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE AN AUTO RENEW.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIR, MISTER WARNER THE SO THE THE CHANGE IN THE CODE DURING THE CODE, WOULD IT ALSO CHANGE SOME OF THE GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE SET FORTH FOR SOME OF THE SELF-STORAGE UNITS? POTENTIALLY. YES, SIR.
OKAY, SO WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ANY IN OPPOSITION.
SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT I'M AGAINST THE MORATORIUM ON THIS.
IT'S THE HOW THE PROCESS OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
YET OUR CURRENT COMP PLAN WAS UPDATED MAY 10TH OF 2023.
THAT LEADS INTO IS ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WHEN LOOKING AT THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHAT YOUR STATEMENT ACTUALLY SAYS.
WHY YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS IS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
MY QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL SELF-STORAGE? THE ONLY THING THAT MEANS IS YOU HAVE MORE POPULATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO STORE THEIR STUFF, MEANS THAT'S WHY THESE SELF-STORAGE UNITS ARE COMING INTO PLAY, RIGHT? MAYBE WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT MAKING IT SO PEOPLE HAVE ROOM TO STORE THEIR OWN STUFF.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE MORATORIUM ON RESIDENTIAL.
IF YOU'RE FINDING A REASON TO STOP BUSINESS FROM COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THAT COULD BE BECAUSE WE'RE MAKING HOUSING SO CLOSE THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ROOM TO STORE.
WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ENOUGH PARKING WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A PARTY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING THESE OTHER BUSINESSES COME IN.
EVIDENTLY THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THEY AREN'T. THEY'RE ONLY BUILDING WHERE THERE IS A NEED.
SO RIGHT IT ALONG WITH THAT NEED, THEY'RE ALSO MEETING ONE OTHER CRITERIA THAT'S PERTINENT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT INCREASES OUR BUSINESS TAX REVENUE.
THAT COMES IN OFF OF A BUSINESS.
IT MIGHT NOT PROVIDE MORE EMPLOYEES TO THE CITY OR JOBS, BUT IT DOES INCREASE OUR TAX REVENUE OFF A BUSINESS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED.
MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? PLEASE? HELLO, MY NAME IS SHARON HARRELL.
ADDRESS OF 4650 HIGHWAY 520 UP IN COCOA.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DEVELOPMENT ON A SEVEN ACRE PARCEL WE HAVE OVER OFF OF ELDEN.
FOR AN RV BOAT STORAGE FACILITY.
IT'S KIND OF RIGHT ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW.
SO OUR QUESTION TO YOU ALL AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL WOULD BE THE STATUS OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE, OR IS THIS MORATORIUM JUST FOR NEW PROJECTS STARTING THAT? THAT WAS AND OF COURSE, WE'VE DONE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT ON THIS PROJECT HOPEFULLY MOVING IT FORWARD IF POSSIBLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ALL'S ATTENTION THAT THERE ARE PROJECTS.
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I THINK YOU SAID 16 OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.I'M SORRY. SO AGAIN, JUST FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM A DATE WISE AS TO WHAT, YOU KNOW, DATE, YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE MORATORIUM START.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK? I'LL ASK FOR A RESPONSE TO THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
YES, SIR. SO THE MORATORIUM IS ESTABLISHED FOR IT'S ONLY FOR TO SUSPEND THE DEVELOPMENT ORDERS AND DEVELOPMENT PERMITS ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPROVAL OF NEW APPLICATIONS OR APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADVERTISED FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE.
AFTER YOU DO YOUR PRE-APPLICATION, YOU SUBMIT A SITE PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR CONDITIONAL USE, BECAUSE THE CONDITIONAL USE WILL PUT CONDITIONS UPON YOUR SITE PLAN.
CORRECT. SO TYPICALLY THEY GO IN TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S YOUR FIRST STEP IN ANY OF THESE PROCESSES.
SO IF YOU HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE AND YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN IN PROCESS, THOSE THOSE PROJECTS WILL CONTINUE. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE STATING THAT THE SIX THAT ARE UNDER REVIEW WOULD CONTINUE.
IT'S FOR NEW APPLICATIONS THAT THIS WOULD STOP.
OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS WHAT WAS STATED ABOUT THE IT'S THE SECOND SENTENCE AND YOU HAVE TO READ THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH EACH OTHER.
SO WE ARE NOTING THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS, WE HAVE UPDATED IT, BUT WE'RE SITTING STATING THAT THE CITY HAS REALIZED SIGNIFICANT GROWTH SINCE THE LAST TIME THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS LAST AMENDED IN 2000, AND THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE 64% OF THE LAND USE ALLOWING RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, WHILE ONLY APPROXIMATELY 9% OF THE CITY HAS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USE.
IN READING THE PARAGRAPH TOGETHER, THAT'S THE THE MESSAGE THAT WE ARE STATING TO YOU ALL I FORGOT.
IS THERE ANOTHER QUESTION? I, I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS, BUT PLEASE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, I WILL.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IN CASE WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD AND I'LL ASK THE BOARD MEMBERS AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. MR. CHAIRMAN. MR. CHAIRMAN. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE MORATORIUM REALLY WON'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL CITY COUNCIL VOTES ON IT.
WELL THAT'S CORRECT AS OF THAT DATE.
EXCUSE ME. IT IS AN ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. BOEREMA. I'LL JUST ASK AS A FOLLOW UP.
IS THE FIRST READING AT TOMORROW'S REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
THANK YOU. LET THE RECORD REFLECT SUCH ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION PERTAINING TO THIS? MOTION TO APPROVE MA 24 00001.
OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION BY MRS JORDAN, SECONDED BY MR. BOEREMA TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THAT CASE IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
WE'LL MOVE INTO WHAT APPEARS TO BE OUR LAST NEW BUSINESS ITEM.
AND THAT IS CASE M OR 2400002.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS AGAIN, IS A PETITION TO ESTABLISH A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM TO PROHIBIT THE ACCEPTANCE, PROCESSING, OR CONSIDERATION OF APPLICATIONS FOR A PERMIT OR DEVELOPMENT ORDER FOR STANDALONE, AUTOMATED AND SELF SERVICE CAR WASHES.
AGAIN, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND AGAIN THAT REVIEW IS THROUGH THE THOSE THAT HAVE APPLIED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
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THE STAFF HAS PROVIDED YOU WITH A STAFF REPORT AND WE ARE HERE OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MORATORIUM FOR CAR WASHES. ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU MA'AM. NO QUESTIONS.YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. BOEREMA, YOU HAD MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS CASE THAT THERE WERE SIX STORAGE UNITS IN THE WORKS.
HOW MANY ON THE CARWASHES? THERE IS ONLY APPROXIMATELY ONE NEW CAR WASH THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED IN.
YES, SIR. FURTHER QUESTIONS AGAIN.
I GUESS IT'S THE ONLY QUESTION.
SO FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE PERTAINING TO THIS CASE.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? SIR. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. ONE MORE TIME IS NOT SO MUCH IN FAVOR OR AGAINST.
IT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW WE GET GET THERE.
AND SO MY STATE, MY COMMENTS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAID IN NEW BUSINESS NUMBER FIVE.
BUT FOR A CAR WASH INSTEAD OF SELF STORAGE.
BUT THAT GENERATES ONE MORE QUESTION THAT I HAD WITH THIS ONE.
AND THAT QUESTION WAS FOR STAFF.
MORE SO BECAUSE I CAN'T ADDRESS COUNCIL AT THIS TIME IS WHAT IS THE OVERALL OUTCOME STAFF IS EXPECTING TO SEE BY THIS MORATORIUM? IS IT TO LIMIT WHAT BUSINESS IS COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, OR IS IT TO LIMIT BUSINESS COMING INTO PALM BAY? I UNDERSTAND IT'S TO MAKE A GROWTH, TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL SAYS.
WELL, WE WANT TO HAVE JOBS THAT INCREASE THE EMPLOYMENT OF MORE PEOPLE WHEN THESE BUSINESSES ARE NOT HIGH EMPLOYEES OF INDIVIDUALS, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT. I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT IS THAT THE BUSINESSES ARE COMING TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND THEY SEE A NEED FOR THESE BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE BUILDING THEM.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ONLY FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT WHEN YOU START LIMITING BUSINESS, YOU SOMETIMES END UP WITH PEOPLE BEING MORE AFRAID TO COME IN BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID WHILE THEY'RE PUTTING MORATORIUMS ON.
EVERY BUSINESS WE BRING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IT MIGHT NOT BE THE INTENT.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE IMPACT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE, THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR BOARD DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE.
ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? THAT SAID, DO I HEAR A MOTION PERTAINING TO THIS CASE? MOTION TO APPROVE MORE.
SECOND. A MOTION BY MR. BOEREMA, SECONDED BY MR. WARNER. TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL.
I SHARE. PERHAPS I SHOULD SHARE IT EARLIER.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, MY SENTIMENT IS ACTUALLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PARTICULAR MORATORIUM.
AND THERE'S REALLY NOT THAT MANY CAR WASHES IN THIS GREAT CITY OF BOMBAY.
AND TO AUDIENCE MEMBERS COMMENTS IF A COMMERCIAL ENTITY DOES THEIR RESEARCH AND WANTS TO COME HERE AND WANTS TO DEVELOP WHAT IS OTHERWISE VACANT LAND OR DERELICT LAND OR WHAT HAVE YOU WE SHOULD WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONAL USE.
WE'D BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH IT.
SO I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS JUST BASED ON THE LACK OF IMPACT THAT I FEEL IT WOULD HAVE.
THAT SAID, I ASK ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE CALL VOTE, MISTER.
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ON MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT WE HAVE IN THE, IN THIS COUNTY, AND THE ROADWAYS ARE, ARE PACKED, ESPECIALLY AS WE KNOW, DURING RUSH HOUR TIMES.AND SO I HAVE SEEN ON SOME OF THOSE CAR WASHES, I'VE SEEN A DIFFICULTY WITH THE TRAFFIC.
AND SO I THINK IT MAYBE WOULD BE A PAUSE FOR US TO LOOK AT, AT HOW THESE ARE DEVELOPED.
AND MAYBE THEY NEED TO ADD SOME MORE SPACE REQUIREMENTS, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SOME DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS SO THAT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS THROUGH THESE PROPERTIES FLOWS A LITTLE, A LITTLE BETTER.
THAT'S MY OPINION. I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THOSE SENTIMENTS, MISTER GARRETT, I REALLY DO.
AND MRS JORDAN, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MISTER OLSZEWSKI THAT I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS MORATORIUM.
SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT.
I THINK THE REASON WELL, THE REASON WHY I'M I'M SOMEWHAT FOR IT.
I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT ANY MORATORIUM THAT WE BRING, I MEAN, THE CITY IS THE CITY IS BUSTING, THE CITY IS IS GROWING SO FAST THAT I THINK THAT WE WE HAVE AS A CITY HAVE NOT STOPPED AND TAKEN THE TIME TO REALLY SET SOME, SOME HARD CORE GUIDELINES INTO PLACE AS TO WHAT IS COMING INTO THE CITY AND WHAT'S REALLY NEEDED IN THE CITY.
I MEAN, SO WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE SO FOCUSED ON RESIDENTS THAT WE, WE DON'T LOOK AT A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL ENTITIES THAT ARE TRYING TO COME INTO THE CITY. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT IT SEEING WHAT IS TRYING TO COME INTO THE CITY.
I THINK THAT THERE STILL HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF GROUNDWORK OR GUIDELINES SET IN PLACE FOR THESE, FOR THESE, FOR THESE BUSINESSES TO COME IN AND FOR THESE BUSINESSES TO THRIVE.
IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THEM COMING IN AND JUST THROWING UP SOMETHING.
AND AND WE'RE HOPING FOR THE BEST, BUT WE'RE HOPING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE A GOOD BUSINESS OUT OF WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE BRINGING INTO THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
ANY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THAT SAID, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE.
MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, MISS? MISS? MR. BAUM, YOU MIGHT SAY.
NO. NO, MA'AM. MR. BOEREMA. YES, IT WAS APPROVED.
AND MR.. WARNER. YAY! OKAY, SO THAT MOTION PASSES 3 TO 2.
THAT CASE IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL.
SEEING NO OTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS HEREBY ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.