May 16, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

MADAM SHERMAN THANK YOU MAYOR.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

REVISIONS. THANK YOU SIR.

THE AGENDA AND LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM FOR ITEM NUMBER TEN UNDER CONSENT AGENDA HAVE BEEN REVISED TO REFLECT AN INCREASE IN COST AND NUMBER OF RIFLE RATED BALLISTIC ARMOR PLATES. ALSO, AN AWARD OF BID PURCHASE ORDER REQUEST AND FUND ALLOCATION FOR PARAMEDIC EDUCATION AND SERVICES HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER PROCUREMENTS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUMS HAVE BEEN UPDATED AND BACKUP MATERIALS ADDED TO ITEMS THREE AND FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS RELATING TO THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH IAFF AND FOP, AND A REQUEST FOR EXPENDITURES FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS ITEM SIX UNDER NEW BUSINESS. ADDITIONALLY, STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT THE FOLLOWING ITEMS BE CONSIDERED PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS AND IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER.

COUNCIL REPORTS ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE CO-SPONSORSHIP.

ITEM NUMBER THREE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE IAFF CONTRACT, AND ITEM NUMBER FOUR UNDER NEW BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE FOP CONTRACT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

COUNCIL. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY YES.

YES, YES. YES, SIR, I WAS WAITING I THINK WITH THE IF IAFF AND THE FOP, I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD TABLE IT TO THE JULY MEETING.

THAT LANGUAGE WAS ADDED.

WE HAVE BOTH PARTIES HERE.

IT WAS ADDED BASED OFF THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

THERE WAS QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, NOT SO MUCH CLARIFICATION ON SOME THINGS AND THINGS THAT ARE LEGAL MATTERS THAT OUR CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

NONE OF THIS WILL BE ACTIVE UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST, SO I DON'T FEEL WE'RE IN A RUSH.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE BOTH PARTIES AND EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, ALL STAKEHOLDERS ARE ON THE SAME PAGE MOVING FORWARD.

BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BE IN A RUSH.

AND I FEEL THIS IS IN A RUSH.

BEING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE UNION HAD FIVE DAYS WITH IT.

WE'VE HAD TWO.

AND THEN HERE WE ARE ABOUT TO VOTE ON IT NOW, AND THE PUBLIC'S ONLY HAD A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY STANCE, SIR, SO I WOULD.

WELL, I'M TRACKING THAT, BUT THE MOTION IS THIS.

AND LET ME LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU.

THE UNION AND ALL OF THESE FOLKS HAVE THEY'VE RATIFIED THAT THAT NEGOTIATION THEY'VE NEGOTIATED IN GOOD FAITH.

AND I, I THINK THAT THAT LAST SECOND ADJUSTMENT WOULD NOT DOES IS NOT BARGAINING IN GOOD FAITH.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

I THINK THAT WE OWE IT TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT US EACH AND EVERY DAY.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING THIS UP.

I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY RIGHT A WRONG IN MY EYES.

IF EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS HAS SAID PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE IN OUR CITY, THEN THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT.

SO I DISAGREE THE MOTION THAT THE MOTION IS TO BRING THIS UP BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I SECOND IT.

SO I WANT TO CALL THE THE MOTION TO TO VOTE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY YES SIR, I DIDN'T I DIDN'T FINISH EVERYTHING.

SO THAT'S ALL BECAUSE ALL RIGHT.

CURRENTLY THE LANGUAGE THAT'S UP BEFORE US RIGHT NOW, DOES IT HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SUGGESTED BECAUSE SHE ACTS IN THE LEGAL CAPABILITIES TO PROTECT THE CITY, AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYBODY.

WE COULD DISCUSS THAT DURING THE THE ITEM.

WHEN WE MOVE THE ITEM, WE COULD DEFINITELY DISCUSS IT.

BUT I JUST ALL RIGHT COUNCIL WE COULD DEFINITELY WE COULD DEFINITELY DISCUSS THAT.

BUT RIGHT NOW I GOT A MOTION TO MOVE THE ITEM TO PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE PUBLIC OR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I THINK IT WAS THE MOTION CORRECT.

DID YOU CAN YOU REQUEST PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN EYE.

I ALL ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

ALL RIGHT. PASSES THREE ZERO.

ALL RIGHT, MADAM SMITH, ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THE FLAG SHOULD BE DOWN. I THINK IT IS DOWNSTAIRS.

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RIGHT. OKAY? YEAH, OKAY.

CAN YOU FEEL THESE TWO? MR. GREG MINER.

THAT'S OKAY. I'LL. SIR.

I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.

BUT WE CAN GIVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD BECAUSE YOU'VE GIVEN ALL THE TIME TO US.

SERVING THE COUNTRY.

SERVING THE CITY SERVE.

I COULD TALK ABOUT ALL THE ACCOLADES.

YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE INFLUENCE YOU'VE HAD ON ME.

YOU'VE GIVEN ME WISDOM.

YOU'VE GIVEN ME GUIDANCE, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

I LOVE YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US.

AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR THE COUNTY, FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR YOUR STAFF AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, SIR.

SO I LOVE YOU, SIR. I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AND TAKE A MOMENT.

YOU SPENT 40 YEARS.

40 YEARS DEDICATING YOUR LIFE.

HE SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED FOR IT.

YOU SHOULD, AND I APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE AND THAT EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING.

WE GOT THIS.

WE GOT THIS, SIR. SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

EXCUSE ME, SERGEANT MAJOR.

I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT IS YOUR FAMILY HERE? YES, SIR. CAN THEY COME UP AND BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS WELL? COME ON UP. COME ON.

AND PLEASE STATE HOW MANY YEARS OF SERVICE YOU HAVE.

HEY, LITTLE GUY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

THIS IS A GREAT HONOR, BUT I ALSO WANT TO HONOR EVERY VETERAN THAT'S IN HERE.

AS WE KNOW MILITARY IS A TOUGH LIFE, BUT IT'S THE SPOUSE THAT THAT KEEPS IN YOUR FAMILY THAT KEEPS THE MILITARY GOING.

AND I CAN NEVER HAD COMPLETED BETWEEN THE RESERVES AND ACTIVE DUTY.

FOUR YEARS, TEN MONTHS AND NINE DAYS.

BUT WHO'S COUNTING? SO BUT THANK YOU FOR THIS.

IF YOU SEE A VET, PLEASE THANK HIM OR HER FOR THEIR SERVICE.

THANK YOU. ARE WE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE? NO. PLEASE.

PLEASE DON'T. WITH THE FAMILY.

PLEASE STAY. STAY HERE.

WE WANT TO TAKE A PHOTO TO RECOGNIZE THIS.

JUST GO DOWN. YEAH.

SHOULD WE ALL JUST GO? YEAH.

YEAH, YEAH. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. READY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU. CONGRATULATIONS.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS, SARITA.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

LET ME SAY IT AGAIN. GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT.

IT IS SUCH AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE AND TO PRESENT THE NEXT FLAG TO A FRIEND, A COMMUNITY LEADER, TO REALLY.

I MEAN, THIS MAN GAVE EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, SOME, GAVE SOME, BUT THIS MAN GAVE EVERYTHING TO THIS COMMUNITY.

HIS STORY, SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO MINE, CAME TO THIS GREAT COUNTRY, THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY.

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HOW MANY BELIEVE AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY? I TRULY BELIEVE THAT REGARDLESS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT WE STILL WE'RE STILL.

WE'RE STILL IS THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY.

BUT SURELY FEW YEARS LATER HE'S SERVING THIS COMMUNITY.

HE ACHIEVED SO, SO MUCH, INCLUDING SERVING THIS GREAT NATION.

SO I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD MISTER JAVIER MOREIRA.

LET'S PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR OVER HERE, PLEASE.

I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT HIS BIO.

JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED A DOCTORATE PROFESSOR AT FIT JOURNALISM WORK FOR FLORIDA TODAY.

THE LIST GOES ON.

SO HONESTLY, IT IS A FRIEND AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED ON MANY PROJECTS TOGETHER.

AND JAVIER, THIS IS AN HONOR, REALLY TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE YOU TODAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS IS FOR YOU, SIR.

IT IS OVER. YOU DESERVE A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

BUT THIS IS A TOKEN FOR OUR APPRECIATION.

YES, SIR.

YOU KNOW, I CAME TO THE UNITED STATES WHEN I WAS 18 YEARS OLD, AND I DIDN'T SPEAK ANY ENGLISH AT ALL.

I WAS THOSE KINDS OF HISPANICS THAT COME HERE TO THE UNITED STATES, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ENGLISH.

I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK ENGLISH.

I SAY, I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK ENGLISH TO MAKE IT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND I DID.

I WAS LIVING IN MIAMI.

I BECAME AN 18 WHEELER, AND I STARTED DRIVING TRUCKS.

BUT AFTER FOUR YEARS DRIVING TRUCKS, I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS IN THE UNITED STATES.

BECAUSE I WAS IN MIAMI SPEAKING ENGLISH, HAVING A GOOD TIME THERE.

I WAS DOING VERY WELL, BUT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE I WAS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND I DECIDED TO JOIN THE UNITED STATES ARMY AS A PARATROOPER OF THE 82ND AIRBORNE DIVISION.

AND BUT BEFORE BASIC TRAINING.

THE ARMY SENT ME TO ENGLISHCOMBE.

YOU NEED TO LEARN ENGLISH BEFORE YOU GO TO BASIC TRAINING.

AND THE ARMY SENT ME TO LACKLAND AIR FORCE BASE TO THE DEFENSIVE LANGUAGE INSTITUTE WHEN I WAS THERE IN LACKLAND.

THE TEACHER TOLD ME THAT I COULD WRITE.

I SAID, YOU CAN WRITE, BUT HOW COME I CAN'T WRITE IF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH? I NEED TO LEARN FIRST, BUT YOU KNOW HOW TO PUT THINGS TOGETHER.

AND AFTER THAT I GOT ADDICTED TO LEARNING ENGLISH.

I WENT TO INFANTRY SCHOOL.

AIRBORNE SCHOOL.

I STARTED TAKING COLLEGE CLASSES AND THEN I.

THE ARMY PAID FOR ALL THAT.

THEN I CAME HERE TO FLORIDA TECH AND THE ARMY PAID FOR THAT.

I DID MY MASTER'S DEGREE AND ALL THESE THINGS TO THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

I HAVE DONE SO MANY THINGS IN HERE IN THIS GREAT NATION, BUT THIS IS THE GREATEST HONOR I EVER HAD.

GET THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY AND KISS IT IN FRONT OF YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU TO THIS GREAT NATION FOR EVERYTHING.

BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I HAVE DONE ONLY IN AMERICA.

THERE IS NO ANOTHER PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE YOU CAN DO THE GREAT THINGS THAT I HAVE DONE HERE.

WE WE HAVE COUNCILMAN FOSTER ON THE LINE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, HE WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT.

I'D LIKE TO AFFORD HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING TO JAVIER.

IF IF COUNCILMAN FOSTER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS REGARDING THE FLAG YOU HAVE FLOWN OVER CITY HALL FOR JAVIER MOLINA'S.

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YES, MA'AM. IT WAS AN HONOR TO TO PUT FORWARD A FLAG AND HARVEY AIR HONOR.

THIS IS WHAT AMERICA IS ALL ABOUT.

SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH.

SOMEONE WHO CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AND MADE A CAREER AND MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS COUNTRY AND IN HIS COMMUNITY.

AND I HONOR HIM.

AND WE ALL SHOULD HONOR PEOPLE LIKE JAVIER.

THANK YOU, JAVIER, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR SACRIFICE TO THIS COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

MAYOR, I DO APPRECIATE THE CALL.

THANK THANKS. GOOD CALL. BECAUSE YEAH, I'M PRESENTING ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

AND CERTAINLY I SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENT AS WELL.

THE NEXT GENTLEMAN THAT I'D LIKE TO CALL FORWARD.

THE LIST IS SO LONG, HE'S CELEBRATING WE RECOGNIZING NINE YEARS OF SERVICE ON ONE BOARD.

BUT THIS IS HOW LONG THE LIST IS.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOES IT.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RETIRED.

BUT WHEN YOU SERVED ON THAT MANY BOARD, MOST OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME.

YEAH, THAT'S NOT RETIREMENT.

HE'S CERTAINLY NOT OUT OF SERVICE, THAT'S FOR SURE.

SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THE LIST.

I'D LIKE TO BRING FORWARD MR. PHIL WEINBERG.

COME ON. FORWARD, SIR.

PUT YOUR HANDS TOGETHER FOR PHIL.

WELL, PHIL. THAT'S ALL YOU DO.

PHIL'S BEEN AN INSPIRATION FOR ME AS WELL.

I REMEMBER JOINING THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

I WAS THE LIAISON FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD.

PHIL WAS VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING ME NOT ONLY TO SERVE AS A LIAISON, BUT TO MOVE UP, TO SERVE ON THE BOARD, TO TRULY HAVE A VOICE AND BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOTE ON THE BOARD AS WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO.

SO I'LL GO OVER THE LIST.

I MEAN, THIS GENTLEMAN SERVED ON THIS FOLLOWING BOARD ROAD MAINTENANCE WORKING COMMITTEE FROM 2420 14 TO 2015, LOCAL ROAD ADVISORY BOARD, INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD AND OVERSIGHT BOARD 2015 TO 2020 MELBOURNE.

TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT 2015 TO TO PRESENT BAYFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY 22.

THIS BOARD WILL BE SETTING UP SUNSETTING THIS YEAR.

I'M SURE IT WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE AS THAT BOARD STILL EXISTS.

CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION TWICE IN 2016 AND 2022.

SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE 2015 TO NOW.

SO THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMEBODY THAT BELIEVES IN COMMUNITY SERVICE THAT GIVE, YOU KNOW, GOT OUT OF RETIREMENT AND SURELY SERVING HIS COMMUNITY FOR THAT.

WE ARE VERY, VERY PROUD OF YOU, SIR.

YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU IN APPRECIATION AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF OVER NINE YEARS OF SERVICE.

JUST ONE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, OF CONTRIBUTION AND DISTINGUISHED SERVICE OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

MAY 16TH, 2024.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SERVE ON ADVISORY BOARDS FOR TWO REASONS.

ONE IS FOR RECOGNITION.

BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIZENS SERVE ON THESE BOARDS SIMPLY TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK.

AND THAT WAS MY MOTIVATION.

AND HOPEFULLY ON ALL THESE BOARDS THAT I'VE SERVED ON, SEVERAL I STILL CONTINUE TO SERVE ON, I'VE CONTRIBUTED SOMETHING POSITIVE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND THAT WAS MY ONLY INCENTIVE.

AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T DO SO FOR RECOGNITION.

BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT IT IS NICE TO BE APPRECIATED.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS TO MR. WEINBERG? YES, MAYOR.

PHIL, THE CITY OWES YOU A DEBT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND TIME YOU PUT IN TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND YOUR LEADERSHIP.

YOU'LL BE SORELY MISSED.

AND I'M GLAD.

I HOPE THIS RECOGNITION BE CLOSE TO YOUR OTHER AWARDS THAT YOU RECEIVED.

THANK YOU. PHIL. DESERT MAIER.

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SO NOW I'M GOING TO REARRANGE SOME OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS ACCORDING TO YOUR AGENDA.

YES, I DO HAVE THAT TYPE OF AUTHORITY.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK.

IS WILLIAM GEARS HERE? THE FLOTILLA COMMANDER? BRING UP YOUR CREW.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, ROBIN.

COME ON UP. COME ON UP HERE.

CAN YOU MAKE IT UP? I CAN, I WON'T, I WON'T HAVE YOU PT THOUGH SIR.

COME ON UP. WE'RE ALL.

SO WE'RE CELEBRATING NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK.

ISN'T IT GREAT? IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THE STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY PD HAS A 24 FOOT BOAT.

ISN'T THAT EXCITING? SO YOU BETTER BE SAFE WHEN YOU BOAT.

BECAUSE WE'RE WATCHING.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS MORE AMERICANS ARE HEADING TO WATERWAYS FOR RECREATION AND RELAXATION AS OPPORTUNITIES FOR WATER ACTIVITIES EXPAND EACH AND EVERY YEAR. AND WHEREAS IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT BOTH NOVICE AND EXPERIENCED BOATERS PRACTICE SAFE BOATING HABITS, WHICH INCLUDE PARTICIPATING IN A SAFE BOATING COURSE.

WHAT A CONCEPT! GO TO CLASS BEFORE YOU GO OUT BOATING RIGHT.

ENSURING THAT THE VESSEL HAS PROPER EQUIPMENT.

THAT ALL PASSENGERS WEAR A LIFE JACKET AND AVOID THE USE OF ALCOHOL.

OH. BET SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WHEREAS EVERY YEAR, HUNDREDS OF LIVES ARE LOST.

IN BOATING ACCIDENTS, THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES CAN BE REDUCED AND BOATING MADE MORE PLEASURABLE IF VOTERS WOULD EXERCISE KNOWLEDGE CARE. COURTESY AND NECESSARY FOR SAFE BOATING EXPERIENCE IS WHAT COURTESY IS IS WARRANTED, RIGHT? WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AUXILIARY FOCUSES ON BOATING SAFETY AND EMPHASIZES ON SAFE BOATING EDUCATION CLASSES AND VESSELS OF SAFETY EXAMINATIONS, ISN'T THAT GREAT? IT SURE IS. THESE.

THESE FOLKS DO THIS TO PROTECT US.

WHEREAS THE SOUTH BREVARD FLOTILLA 17 002.

UNITED STATES COAST GUARD AUXILIARY ANNUALLY PROVIDES VESSELS AND SAFETY EXAMINATIONS AT POLLOCK PARK.

NOW THEREFORE, I ROBERT MEDINA.

SO IF YOU'RE BOATERS, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU GO TO THE AUXILIARY AND TAKE YOUR BOATING CLASS AND LEAVE THE ALCOHOL AT HOME.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROWE MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY TO SET OFFERS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM MAY 18TH THROUGH THE 24TH, 2024 AS NATIONAL SAFE BOATING WEEK IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS WHO USE OUR WATERWAYS TO ACQUIRE THE SKILLS AND THE KNOWLEDGE ESSENTIAL TO PRACTICE SAFE BOATING AND WITNESS.

HEREOF, I SET MY RIGHT HAND AND CROSS THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 16TH DAY OF 2024.

CONGRATULATIONS, COMMANDER.

THANK YOU SIR. AND YOU SHOULD COME OVER TO.

THANK YOU. A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE COAST GUARD AUXILIARY IS WE ARE PART OF THE COAST GUARD.

WE ARE NOT MILITARY AND WE'RE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

SO YOU WANT US TO COME ONTO YOUR BOAT AND DO THE VESSEL EXAM? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE TICKETS, AND WE DON'T REPORT ANYBODY THAT HAS ANY VIOLATIONS.

BUT THAT IS OUR PRIMARY.

WE'RE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING THAT THE COAST GUARD WILL TRAIN US IN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND MILITARY ACTION.

BUT OUR FOCUS IS BOATING SAFETY.

SO WE DO HAVE CLASSES.

STATISTICS SHOW THAT ANYBODY WHO ATTENDS AN IN-PERSON BOATING SAFETY CLASS, IT'S 0.004% OF ANY ACCIDENTS OR FATALITIES, WHEREAS EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER FOR THOSE WHO DID IT ONLINE.

WE WE HAVE IT EVERY SECOND SATURDAY OF THE MONTH.

WE HOLD IT RIGHT AT POLLOCK PARK.

IF YOU KNOW WHERE PALM BAY ROAD MEETS THE US.

ONE BY THE RAILROAD TRACKS THERE WITH A NICE BLUE BUILDING.

AND THAT BUILDING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY A COUPLE DECADES AGO, WORKING WITH THE AUXILIARY THROUGH THE FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT, CREATED A GRANT TO BUILD THAT BUILDING.

AND THAT BUILDING'S ENTIRE PURPOSE IS FOR BOATING SAFETY, WATERWAYS AND NAVIGATION.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WE PROVIDE.

I'M THE NEW FLOTILLA COMMANDER.

I WAS BROUGHT DOWN HERE TO HELP REVITALIZE THAT FLOTILLA.

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AND IT IS OUR INTENTION TO MAKE THAT THE PREMIER BOATING EDUCATION LOCATION FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, BECAUSE WE GOT TO START SMALL.

BUT LET'S START WITH THE COMMUNITY OF PALM BAY.

HAVE THE BOAT WITH THE SAFETY SEAL ON IT, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE THE MINIMUM EQUIPMENT.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT ON BOARD ANYWAY, SO AT LEAST SHOW WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT BY PUTTING THE SEAL ON.

YOU HAVE YOUR MINIMUM EQUIPMENT BOAT.

A SAFETY CLASS CAN SAVE YOU 10 TO 30% ON YOUR ON YOUR INSURANCE POLICY.

SO THERE'S THINGS WE CAN PROVIDE.

AND OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE 17 YEARS OF AGE, A US CITIZEN AND CAN PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK, YOU CAN JOIN US.

BUT I WILL WARN YOU THAT WE ARE NOT PAID.

THIS IS OUT OF OUR OWN POCKET.

WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY FEDERAL FUNDS, NO TAXPAYER MONEY.

IT'S OUR DUES AND THE FEES THAT WE CHARGE FOR OUR BOATING SAFETY CLASS.

BUT WE STILL GET TO DO AN AWFUL LOT.

AND I COULD GO ON AND ON BECAUSE I LOVE IT.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER 21 YEARS AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCES THAT I NEVER OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE EVER HAD, INCLUDING WORKING IN THE ARCTIC, WHICH IS FUN FOR A FLORIDIAN.

SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT'S BECAUSE OF YOU PEOPLE THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE COAST GUARD HAVE THE EXACT SAME MISSION, AND THAT'S TO SAVE LIVES.

AND WE DO THAT THROUGH BEING SERVANT LEADERS.

BY DOING THE SAFETY EXAMS THAT THAT WE DO.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE FUN, BUT IT'S NOT FUN IF IT ISN'T SAFE.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN TAKE A PICTURE.

WHY DON'T WE EVEN IT OUT? YOU GUYS COME ON THIS SIDE.

AND COME ON.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

CAN'T DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT YOU GUYS.

APPRECIATE. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK. THANK YOU.

THAT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THIS NEXT PROCLAMATION I'M GOING TO BRING UP.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ORGANIZATION.

I'M GOING TO CALL UP THE PRESIDENT OF BUKOWSKA AND HER ENTIRE TEAM.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE HOW LONG THIS ORGANIZATION'S BEEN AROUND, SINCE THE 90S THAT I'M AWARE OF AND MOREOVER, WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND ACCOMPLISHED FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND GIVING GRANTS TO TO CHILDREN.

AND THEY ACTUALLY HELP CHILDREN IN BUILDING THEIR CULTURE.

SO COME ON UP, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND BRING YOUR TEAM BECAUSE WE'RE CELEBRATING NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

COME ON. YOU GUYS SUPPOSED TO COME UP AND START DANCING, RIGHT? RIGHT. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BRING THE STEEL DRUMS AND JUST HAVE SOME FUN, RIGHT? GOD BLESS YOU. GOD BLESS YOU.

SO AS I MENTIONED, COME ON UP, GUYS.

THESE FOLKS GIVE SO MUCH TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY USUALLY DO IT SO QUIETLY.

THEY DON'T THEY DON'T BRAG ABOUT THEIR EFFORTS.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW THEY ADOPT CHILDREN AND THEY CULTIVATE RELATIONSHIPS AND MENTOR OUR YOUTH.

SO I'LL FOREVER BE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU BRING TO BRING OUR YOUR CULTURE WITHIN THE AMERICAN CULTURE AND ALSO TO HELP OUR YOUTH.

I THINK YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE COMMENDED FOR THAT, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.

SO IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE GREATEST. THE GREATEST.

THANK YOU, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

THAT WHEREAS THE DYNAMIC DYNAMISM AND DIVERSITY OF CARIBBEAN AMERICANS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR NATION'S STORY IN EXTRAORDINARY WAYS, ENSURING THE BONDS BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND THE CARIBBEAN REMAIN STRONG.

AND WHEREAS, DURING NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WE CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF OUR CARIBBEAN AMERICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND WE REFLECT ON HOW THEY HAVE BOLSTERED OUR COUNTRY AND ENRICHED OUR TRADITIONS.

AND WHEREAS CARIBBEAN AMERICANS EXCEL IN A FIRE, US AS ATHLETES AND MUSICIANS, GUIDE US AS COMMUNITY AND GOVERNMENT LEADERS AND KEEP US SAFE THROUGH THEIR DEDICATED SERVICE IN THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

AND WHEREAS, THE UNITED STATES IS COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH NATIONS OF THE CARIBBEAN TO ADVANCE SECURITY, LIBERTY AND PROSPERITY.

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AND WHEREAS PERSONS OF THE CARIBBEAN HERITAGE HAVE BEEN PILLARS OF BREVARD COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND BUSINESS SECTORS AS JUDGES, COUNCILMAN, PROPRIETORS AND MAYORS, BECAUSE MY CULTURE IS FROM THE CARIBBEAN TO MY PARENTS ARE FROM PUERTO RICO. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THAT WAS THE CARIBBEAN, RIGHT? WHEREAS. BREVARD.

BREVARD CARIBBEAN-AMERICAN SPORTS AND CULTURE ASSOCIATION EMPOWERS THE LIVES OF BREVARD COUNTY YOUTH AND FAMILIES BY PROVIDING COMMUNITY EDUCATION, CHARITABLE SERVICES, AND CULTURAL ACTIVITIES.

WHEREAS BUKOVSKA SHOWCASES AND SHARES CARIBBEAN AMERICAN CULTURE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I. ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON EARTH BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JUNE 2024 AS NATIONAL CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS CELEBRATION.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 16TH DAY OF MAY, 2024, AND THIS NOW WILL BE PRESENTED TO MISS MARCIA CAMPBELL, PRESIDENT OF BOKOSUKA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MEDINA AND COUNCIL.

I JUST WANT TO READ SOMETHING TO EVERYBODY.

IT REITERATES EVERYTHING.

HE JUST SAYS THE POWER.

IN JUNE OF LAST YEAR, AS PART OF OUR CELEBRATION FOR OUR CARIBBEAN AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

WE ORGANIZE A SPECTACULAR, SPECTACULAR EVENT CALLED CARIBBEAN ARTS ON THE RIVER.

RENOWNED AUTHOR AND POET JUDITH JUDITH FALLON READ GRACIOUSLY HOSTED THE EVENT.

WE SHOWCASED THE ART OF SOME LOCAL YOUTH, AND THE MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED REALLY SUPPORTED THEM, WHICH UNDOUBTEDLY BOOSTS BOOSTED THEIR CONFIDENCE.

THE RIPPLE EFFECT OF THIS EVENT WAS PROFOUND.

MISS FALLON READ, HAVING SEEN THEIR WORKS, ENLISTED ONE OF THE ARTISTS, HIGH SCHOOLER ARIA YOUNG, TO ILLUSTRATE OUR NEWEST CHILDREN'S BOOK, SING ORAL, SING.

THIS OPPORTUNITY WILL UNDENIABLE TRANSFORM THE LIFE OF ARIA YOUNG BECAUSE OF.

THIS STORY UNDERSCORES THE IMPACT BOWCASTER CAN HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR EVENTS.

WHEN OUR LEADERSHIP CALLS FOR SUPPORT FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, LET'S ANSWER THE CALL.

WHETHER IT IS BY PROVIDING A SPACE FOR THEIR EVENTS OR ACTIVITIES, OFFERING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, VOLUNTEERING OUR TIME FOR PROGRAMS LIKE THE STEELPAN PROGRAM OR THE KIDS ZONE AT AN OUTDOOR EVENT, OR JUST COMING OUT TO SUPPORT EVENTS LIKE CARIBBEAN ARTS ON THE RIVER.

EVERY EFFORT COUNTS TOWARDS NURTURING THE NEXT GENERATION OF TALENTS.

SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

THIS IS JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING AND HOPEFULLY YOU'VE LEARNED A LITTLE MORE ABOUT US AND WHAT WE DO AGAIN.

AND YOUR NEXT EVENT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS COMING UP.

WE MIGHT WE HAVE WE HAVE FLIERS TO GIVE OUT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE EVENTS HERE.

WE'LL BE PARTAKING IN THE FUN DAY, FUN FRIDAY, FUN FRIDAY.

THIS FRIDAY WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT.

WE ARE IN CHARGE OF THE ENTERTAINMENT.

SO WE HAVE SOME FLIERS AND A CALENDAR OF EVENTS FOR THE MONTH OF JUNE.

SO PLEASE, WE, OUR MEMBERS WILL GO AROUND AND GIVE OUT SOME FLIERS.

THANK YOU. SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE WATCHING, IS THERE A WEBSITE THEY CAN GO TO TO SEE? YES OKAY. BUT WHAT IS YOUR EMAIL? BUT COSTCO DOT FLORIDA AT GMAIL.COM.

THAT'S THE THAT'S THE EMAIL.

EMAIL. THAT'S THE EMAIL. YEAH.

YEAH. WELL IT'S ON THE FLIER.

YEAH. IT'S THE WEBSITE.

SO ALL THE INFORMATION IS ON THERE.

YEAH OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

GREAT. I'LL STAND.

THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU CAN FIND THIS.

YOU CAN FIND THIS PLEASE.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE NOW.

COME ON. COME ON. PICTURE TIME.

PICTURE, PICTURE. COME OVER HERE.

COME IN. I'M FOLLOWING HIM.

SHORTY, YOU'RE THE SHORTY.

YEAH. SHORTY.

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ALRIGHT, GENTLEMEN. HEY COURTNEY WHAT'S UP MAN? HOW YOU DOING? SAY IT AGAIN.

BUT DO I SMELL LIKE GANJA? I HAVE TO CHECK THE THERMOSTAT HERE FOR A SECOND.

IS THERE A MEMBER FROM THE ALS ORGANIZATION HERE RIGHT NOW? ALS. OKAY.

IS ROB KEEFE HERE? ROB KEEFE.

SO I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF ON ON ONE OF THESE PROCLAMATIONS, THE JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

IT'S AN IMPORTANT PROCLAMATION.

SO I MAY BE CALLING THEM UP ONCE THEY ARRIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE IN COMMUTE.

IT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN INFORMED FROM.

WHERE WAS IT? FORT LAUDERDALE, MA'AM.

SO SOMEWHERE DOWN SOUTH.

SO I'M GOING TO RESERVE TO TO CALL THEM BACK UP, GENTLEMEN.

SO. RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. WAIT, MAYOR.

I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCIL REPORTS FIRST.

OH, AS YOU WERE. YES, SIR.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE'RE ON COUNCIL REPORTS.

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON? YES, MAYOR. IT'S A LONG LIST, SIR.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE EACH OTHER UNTIL JULY.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEETINGS WE CAN HAVE, WHICH IS HITTING A LOT OF GOOD TOPICS THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED BEFORE WE GO ON TO ANYTHING ELSE, SIR.

SO I DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TILL TEN, 1030.

I WANTED TO TRY TO KNOCK EVERYTHING OUT AS SOON AS I COULD.

WOULD BE EFFECTIVE WITH THE TIME, BECAUSE I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.

OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ABOUT OTHER THINGS, AND WE CAN JUST COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY IN THE BEGINNING AND FIND A SOLUTION FOR EVERYTHING.

SO WITH THE FIRST THING, MAYOR I GOT A CONTACT, JUSTIN TRAVIS.

HE'S THE USA BMX DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN COMING TO PALM BAY, SPECIFICALLY THE COMPOUND.

WE HAD A MEETING THE OTHER WEEK.

IT WAS MYSELF, SUZANNE SHERMAN REPRESENTATIVE OF MR. PARKS FROM THE SPACE COAST TOURISM DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS MR. FRED POPPY HIMSELF.

AND IT WAS A IT WAS A WONDERFUL MEETING.

IT WAS A GREAT MEETING.

IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE.

IT CAN BE DONE AGAIN. WE JUST HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IT.

IT'S BEEN DONE IN PORT SAINT LUCIE AS WE SPEAK, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY BRING SOMETHING OF ASSET INSTEAD OF A LIABILITY TO THE COMPOUND. STAFF.

STAFF HAS SOME OF THE RENDERINGS FROM THE PREVIOUS ENGINEERING THAT THEY HAVE FOR PORT SAINT LUCIE.

MISS SHERMAN OR MISTER POPPY, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK MORE ABOUT IT.

BUT I THINK THIS IS A HOOK, LINE AND SINKER THAT WE CAN JUST REALLY DIRECT STAFF TO PRIORITIZE THIS.

BECAUSE THE BUY IN IS ALREADY THERE, THE BUY IN IS ALREADY THERE.

AND THE ECONOMIC NUMBERS THAT MR. TRAVIS SHOWED ALL OF US LIKE IT CAN IT COULD REALLY DO A LOT MORE GOOD.

IT COULD REALLY DO A LOT MORE GOOD, SIR.

SO THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM.

OKAY. SO WHAT IS THE VISION WITH HAVING THEM DISCUSSED THAT.

WHAT IS THE VISION.

THE THE OLD PROPERTY THAT'S OUT THERE OR PRIVATE IF PRIVATE PROPERTY IF MR..

YEAH. IF MR.. POPPY COULD SPEAK TO IT BECAUSE THIS HAD BEEN DONE BEFORE.

MISS SHERMAN OR MADAM CHAIRMAN CERTAINLY.

I MEAN WE'RE BOTH IN THE MEETING.

YEAH. NO, I JUST I JUST WANTED TO GET MORE DETAILS ON IT.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OPENING IT UP OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTINUING DISCUSSIONS.

WELL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, PRIORITIZING.

BECAUSE THE BUY IN IS ALREADY THERE.

MR. TRAVIS SENT ANOTHER FOLLOW UP EMAIL TODAY SAYING LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

WHERE ARE WE? I CAN FORWARD THAT TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CLERK SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE WHAT I SAW.

BUT YEAH, I CAN ADD A LITTLE EXTRA DETAIL IF YOU'D LIKE.

YEAH, IT WAS A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION.

WE HAD THAT INTRODUCTION AND USA BMX, AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MENTIONED, THEY HAVE A REALLY GREAT PROGRAM.

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THEY THEY PARTNER IN DIFFERENT WAYS WITH CITIES, COUNTIES, OTHER ENTITIES, EVEN VOLUNTEER GROUPS TO DEVELOP BMX TRACKS.

AND APPARENTLY IT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE TYPE OF ACTIVITY.

FROM WHAT WE LEARNED FROM MR. TRAVIS, A LOT OF FAMILIES GET INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, KIDS OF ALL AGES, ADULTS.

AND IT'S IT'S NOT A HUGE IT'S A IT WOULD BE A FULL PARK DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S REALLY WHAT IT WOULD COME DOWN TO.

BUT IT'S A IT'S APPARENTLY A VERY POPULAR SPORT, SIMILAR TO HOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PICKLEBALL.

LIKE, THIS IS A VERY POPULAR SPORT AND GROWING IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF TRACKS THAT ARE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

SO WE HAD A VERY, VERY GOOD INITIAL EXPLORATORY MEETING WITH THEM.

AND THERE'S A LOT MORE TO DISCUSS.

MR. TRAVIS TOLD US THAT THE SECOND THING THEY DO IN THEIR PROCESS IS THEY LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LOCATION, SELECTING THE LOCATION.

SO WE'RE JUST REALLY IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO MOVE FORWARD, WE'RE JUST IN THE EXPLORATORY PHASES OF, YOU KNOW, COULD WE BRING A BMX TRACK TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY? WE DID DISCUSS MR. POPPY AND I. HE HAD A GREAT IDEA THAT THE OLD CYCLOCROSS FACILITY THAT'S OFF OF OSMOSIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR THAT, POTENTIALLY.

BUT THERE'S LOTS MORE TO LOOK AT TO JUST EXPLORE THE IDEA.

YEAH, I'M. I GOT A THUMBS UP ON THAT TO EXPLORE THAT, SIR.

I JUST NEEDED TO KNOW WHERE YOU WOULD GO.

I APPRECIATE YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE.

WHAT ABOUT YOU, MR. MAYOR? ANYTHING POSITIVE COMING TO THE COMPOUND? I WELCOME YOU. COPY THAT.

SIR. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA KEEP MOVING. HOLD ON A SECOND.

YES, SIR. I KNOW YOU WANT TO KEEP ROLLING, BUT I.

I WANT TO ENGAGE COUNCILMAN FOSTER AT THE SAME TIME.

RIGHT. COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND I BYPASSED YOU, SIR.

WHICH I'LL GET BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR REPORTS AFTER MR. JOHNSON. BUT MR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER ANY ANY COMMENTS REGARDING WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST STATED? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT, SIR, YOU'RE GOOD WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. CARRY ON.

OKAY. YOU'RE ON THE ROAD.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT TOPIC MORATORIUM.

I PULLED THE ITEM LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

THE CAR WASH MORATORIUM.

I'M HEARING THE WORD HAS A STRONG DISTASTE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE, I'VE HAD DEVELOPERS.

WHO'S CALLING ME ABOUT IT? I'VE HAD REAL ESTATE CALLING ME ABOUT IT.

AND IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT WAS THE, YOU KNOW, THE WILL OF COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MORATORIUM.

BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS JUST GIVE CLEAR AND CONCISE DIRECTION TO GROWTH MANAGEMENT THAT WE DON'T WANT CAR WASHES AND WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, SELF-STORAGE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REAL ABOUT IT.

IT'S CONSUMER DRIVEN.

WHO'S GOING TO THESE CAR WASHES AND WHO'S GOING TO THESE SELF-STORAGE? YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'M NOT.

MY CAR IS DIRTY, BUT LIKE.

IT'S CONSUMER DRIVEN.

SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE AS A CITY ALSO PRIORITIZE OURSELVES TOO, AND NOT JUST TRY TO REBUKE COUNCIL WHEN IT'S ALL CONSUMER DRIVEN.

THEY'RE COMING HERE FOR A REASON, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW I WAS BEING HEAVY ON THE MORATORIUM FOR MULTIFAMILY MORATORIUM FOR PUDS.

IT WASN'T THE COUNCIL'S WILL, FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING.

BUT WE CAN MAKE A STANCE.

JUST LIKE ON ITEMS TONIGHT.

WE CAN MAKE A STANCE THAT WAY.

SO. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM THERE.

I KNOW I WAS BEING HEAVY, HEAVY, HIT IT WITH HEAVY HEARTED WITH TRYING TO PUSH THIS MORATORIUM, BUT I'M BACKING OFF.

BUT I JUST WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE STILL HAVE THAT SAME KIND OF MIND FRAME WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY.

SO THAT WAS IT WITH THAT ONE, SIR.

WELL, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, JUST RIGHT ALONG THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT CAPACITY WITH OUR NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

YES. IS IT CREATING JOBS? RIGHT. YEAH. I'VE, I'VE, I'VE BEEN A BIG PROPONENT OF THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS DAIS.

AND I BELIEVE MOST OF YOU HAVE JOINED ME IN THAT REGARD.

SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALSO BEEN A PROPONENT ON IS OUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

I NEVER WANTED TO LOSE THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS AS YOU YOU.

SO THAT WOULD HAVE CONTROLLED SOME OF THAT AS WELL.

SO. YES, SIR. WITHOUT GOING TO MORATORIUM, IT'S MORTAL IS THE ROOT WORD AND IT'S IT JUST HAS THIS CONNOTATION.

IT'S KILLING THAT MOMENTUM AND, YOU KNOW, SPORTS.

YES, SIR. WHEN YOU'RE ON AND THERE'S A MOMENTUM TO KICK START IT AGAIN.

BUT WE CAN CONTROL IT BASED ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO YES, SIR I AGREE WE COULD WE COULD TAKE IN THIS THAT SAME IDEOLOGY WHEN THEY SEE HOW WE'RE VOTING.

YES SIR. UP HERE OKAY.

NOW I APPRECIATE THAT THE NEXT ONE IS MORE OF A HEAVY TOPIC.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

NOW BEFORE WE GO INTO JUNE, I, I PERSONALLY SPOKE TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER AND I PRAYED WITH HIM.

I TOLD HIM I THINK HE NEEDS TO RESIGN.

BECAUSE IF I'M HIS FRIEND, IF WE'RE ALL SUPPOSED TO BE FRIENDS, WE GOT TO BE WILLING TO TELL THE TRUTH TO ONE ANOTHER.

SO I JUST.

I TALKED TO YOU, MAYOR, ABOUT IT.

I'VE TALKED TO DEPUTY MAYOR.

I'VE TALKED TO EVERYBODY AND MENTIONED IT BECAUSE I CAN'T WE CAN'T ALLOW SOMEBODY WE CAN'T ALLOW SOMEBODY TO GIVE THEIR LIFE WHEN GOD GAVE THEM A SECOND CHANCE. AND MAYBE HE'S TAKING THAT SECOND CHANCE FOR GRANTED.

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MAYBE THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND GOD.

THAT'S BETWEEN HIM AND THE LORD.

BUT IT'S ALSO A DISSERVICE TO THE CITY.

IT'S A DISSERVICE TO HIMSELF.

BUT WITH THAT GOING FORWARD, THAT'S UP TO COUNCILMAN FOSTER WHAT HE DOES, THAT'S UP TO HIM, WHAT HE DOES.

BUT IT'S ALSO UP TO US ON WHAT WE DO MOVING FORWARD.

LAST YEAR OR LAST TIME THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS WITH THE APPOINTMENT OR WITH SPECIAL ELECTION WHATNOT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN AGAIN.

IF IT IF IT DOES GO THAT WAY.

SO I'M WILLING TO GO ON THE RECORD.

I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION.

I KNOW THERE'S THINGS THAT WE WEREN'T HAPPY WITH, BUT IF WE COULD ALL COME AGREEMENT ON SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY FOR 3 TO 4 MONTHS, THAT'S NONPOLITICAL, THAT'S NOT LOOKING FOR ANY FAVORS OR ANYTHING.

I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE A PHILIP WEINBERG OR A BILL BATTEN, AND THE THREE OF US, OR THE FOUR OF US CAN COME IN AGREEMENT WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT.

I KNOW I'M PUTTING I KNOW I'M PUTTING MY NECK ON THE ON THE GUILLOTINE SPEAKING LIKE THIS, BUT I DON'T CARE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY IT'S BIGGER THAN US.

LISTEN, I YOU KNOW, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE GOING, SIR.

AND IF WE WERE GOING TO DO THAT, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT A LONG TIME AGO.

THERE'S THERE'S A PART OF ME.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER IS A SOLDIER.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS AN AIRMAN.

AND IN THAT LANGUAGE, THERE'S NO QUITTING.

AND SO I.

I RESPECT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

HOWEVER, COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS NOT EQUIPPED AND I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT HE WAS THAT WAS INSTILLED IN HIM AS HE SERVED HIS GREAT NATION, AND HE WAS ALSO A UNITED STATES MARSHAL TO TO ASK SOMEONE TO QUIT.

I KNOW PHYSICALLY HE'S HAD CHALLENGES, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT MONTHS AGO IF THAT WAS THE CASE.

WHEN YOU THINK OF DIGNITY, I THINK OF.

HE COULD.

FINISH HIS TERM.

AND CONTINUE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.

THE PEOPLE ELECTED HIM.

AND THAT. THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

HE'S HE'S THE WAY I SEE HIM, HE'S A VETERAN OF OUR UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

AND I KNOW QUITTING IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN INSTILLED IN THOSE THAT SERVE.

SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

I'M NOT GOING TO ASK ANYONE TO TO RESIGN.

I DID WHEN THERE WAS A AN OPPORTUNITY THAT THE LAW WAS BROKEN.

BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH SAYING ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. OKAY? NO. MAYOR.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO TO ADD.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START.

I MEAN, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAVE HIS REASONS, OBVIOUSLY.

AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT'S COMING FROM A PURE HEARTED.

CONCERN. AND I WOULD NEVER QUESTION THAT.

I'M A BIT CONFUSED OR PERPLEXED.

THAT'S I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE WORD.

BUT I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AS THAT.

I THINK IT SHOULD SHOULD BE SOLELY UP TO COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER. I THINK NO ONE SHOULD BE MAKING THAT CALL.

BUT I SURELY UNDERSTAND AS WELL.

I KIND OF, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I THINK IT'S PURE.

IT'S PURE YOU KNOW, POSITION, BUT I.

YOU KNOW I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE UP TO HIM WHAT HE DOES MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. AND AND I AGREE.

AND IT'S STILL UP TO HIM, BUT I JUST IT'S ALSO UP TO US ON WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE GOVERN OUR ACTIONS ACCORDINGLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

BUT MOVING FORWARD YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE ROAD BOND.

WE'VE, WE'VE HAVE SOME ROADS THAT AREN'T WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

AND A LOT OF THAT'S NOT ON THE CITY, IT'S WE'RE SUBCONTRACTING THESE, THESE PROJECTS.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAD THE LITIGATION WITH MALABAR WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO RECOUP SOME FUNDS.

BUT WE MISSED THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO OUR STAFF THAT ANY CHANCE OR ANY TIME, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MET WITH REGARDS TO HOW THE ROADS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OR IF THEY DETER FASTER THAN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO, THAT WE'RE PURSUING LEGAL ACTION BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE A WINDOW AND WE ALREADY ARE PUTTING ASIDE A LOT TOWARDS THE ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND, BUT IF IT'S NOT ON US, THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE ON US.

SO. SO THAT'S MY STANCE WITH THAT, SIR.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, THE WARRANTY ASPECT OF IT? YES. THE MILLINGS.

YES. YES, SIR.

YEAH, I THINK THAT I THINK STAFF HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THAT, BUT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

YES, SIR. WE NEED TO HOLD THEM TO THE FIRE, SO TO SPEAK.

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YES, SIR. JUST ESPECIALLY WITH SOME SOME OF THE WINDOWS ARE CLOSING, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO WHILE WE CAN.

LIKE PACER. YEP.

YES, SIR. YOU'RE WITH ME.

THE OTHER ONE. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION LATER, BUT I HAD A CALL FROM WILLIAM FROM ETA.

I GUESS HE'S REPRESENTING CRYSTAL PALACE.

AND HE WAS. HE CALLED ME REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT, AND THEY'RE THEY'RE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT THE MAIN THING THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS ADDRESS THE CODE COMPLIANCE.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'RE READY TO, I GUESS, TO COMMIT DEMOLITION OR DEMOLITION.

I MEAN SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS WITH STAFF OR IF WE HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT.

I JUST GOT THE CALL. HE'S BEEN BLOWING MY PHONE UP ABOUT IT, BUT I WASN'T SURE WHERE WE WERE.

YEAH, WELL, I KNOW WE APPROVED THE PROJECT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF DEMOLITION WAS PART OF IT.

RIGHT. THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO ADD ON TO IT.

FROM WHAT HE TOLD ME, IT WAS LIKE A DEMOLITION PERMIT OR SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST.

I'M PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

IT WAS JUST TOLD TO ME WHILE I WAS.

SO WHAT DO YOU WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO? I'M NOT SURE. I'M JUST.

I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT IT LATER, BUT.

OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? NO, NO, I GOT A LOT MORE. I'M SORRY, SIR, I APOLOGIZE.

ALSO, WE HAD A MEETING THIS MORNING.

GREAT MEETING. IT WAS CITY STAFF, CITY MANAGEMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

NANCY FROM THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE CAREERSOURCE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION FROM BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND IT WAS A GREAT MEETING IN REGARDS TO JUST REPRIORITIZING THE EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT AND WORK ATTAINMENT.

A LOT OF OUR GRADES ARE DROPPING.

A LOT OF OUR SCHOOLS, THEY JUDGE IT BASED OFF THE THIRD GRADE READING LEVEL.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CAREER AND TRADE AND SKILL JOBS MATCH THE NEED DOWN HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY OR SOUTH BREVARD COUNTY.

SO WE WERE TALKING TO OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO SEE WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADVERTISING THE RIGHT JOBS THAT L3 HARRIS WANTS TO SEE THAT NORTHROP WANTS TO SEE THAT ROGUE VALLEY WANTS TO SEE.

AND IT WAS MENTIONED, AND I LOVE WHAT CITY MANAGER WAS DOING IN REGARDS TO SUGGESTING IT.

WITHIN A WORKSHOP OF INCLUDING THIS.

I KNOW WE HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP COMING IN AUGUST, SO I THINK THAT'S A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE ALL THESE STAKEHOLDERS AND EVERYONE FROM THERE.

SO THAT WAS JUST THAT'S MORE OF AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE WERE FROM THIS MORNING.

THE LAST THING WE MENTIONED ABOUT IT A WHILE AGO WAS THE WAS NOT THE LAST THING, ONE OF THE LAST THINGS PARK REFERENDUM.

I KNOW WE GAVE STAFF DIRECTION TO LOOK INTO THAT WITH THE COUNTY.

WE TOOK WE TOOK THE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE PAYING APPROXIMATELY 1.5 MILLION TOWARDS THE COUNTY.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, OR SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS RESIDENTS PAYING A TAX AND BREVARD COUNTY IS COLLECTING IT, BUT WE'RE THE ONE MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT. THAT'S EXACTLY.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M SPEAKING ON.

YES, SIR. THAT SHOULD BE ON IF WE'RE IF WE'RE PUTTING THE SERVICE IN, IT SHOULD BE ON US.

THE THE MONEY SHOULD BE WITH US.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT US TO BE VERY PROACTIVE WITH BECAUSE THAT'S 1.5 MILLION OVER, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR.

AND IT'S ADDING UP ADDING, ADDING UP.

BUT WE'RE NOT GETTING THE SERVICE FOR IT.

SO THAT'S SO WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT STAFF? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF.

I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE FOR THAT TONIGHT.

BUT WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. ABSOLUTELY.

CARRY ON. YES, SIR.

SORRY I GOT A FEW MORE DOO DOO DOO DOO DAH.

OTHER THINGS. I JUST WANT US TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, KEEP ON THE FOREFRONT OF OUR MIND.

BABCOCK WIDENING SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY EXPANSION.

MALABAR WIDENING.

LET'S SEE. OH THIS IS ONE THE PRE-APPLICATION PRE-APPLICATION FEE.

SO A WHILE AGO I BECAME AWARE THAT WE WERE WE HAD A PRE-APPLICATION FEE OF 250 FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO MEET WITH THE CITY, KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SHARE A VISION OF WHAT THEY WANT TO BRING TO THE CITY.

BUT I'M LIKE OTHER CITIES AREN'T CHARGING A $250 FEE JUST TO KIND OF BRING YOUR IDEA, YOU KNOW? SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKEN OUT IN 2020.

WHAT YEAR? MISS SHERMAN 21.

MAYBE I'M PULLING THE EMAIL RIGHT NOW REAL QUICK.

YES. YES, MA'AM.

WHEN THAT WAS.

BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS TAKEN OUT WITHIN A RESIDENT THAT WAS LOOKING TO PROPOSE SOMETHING, BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION THAT WAS BACK IN.

BUT THEN I GUESS THERE WAS A LITTLE MIX UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DIFFERENT STAFFS, WE HAVE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW PEOPLE THAT COME IN AND OUT OF CITY, CITY GOVERNMENT.

BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK AT AND ADDRESS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY ENTICE PEOPLE TO COME, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST OPEN THE DOORS AND JUST HAVE MEETINGS WITH THEM TO LEARN WHAT THEY WANT TO PROVIDE WITHOUT CHARGING A FEE.

COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON, IF I MAY, MAYOR.

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I BELIEVE YOU ARE CORRECT.

WE HOLD THE MEETING WHERE WE INVITED THE THE THE COMMUNITY.

AS FAR AS THOSE THAT INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE CONSTRUCTS OR THE DEVELOPERS, THE INVESTORS, WE WE HOSTED AT TONY ROSA.

THIS WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I REMEMBER.

YES, WE DID ASK FORMER.

THAT WAS A WORKSHOP, A WORKSHOP, CORRECT? CORRECT. WE DID ASK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

AND COUNCIL DID AGREE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT FEE.

I DON'T RECALL THE SPECIFIC, BUT THAT IS CORRECT IF THAT.

I THINK IF THAT WAS LOOKED AT AT SOME POINT COUNCIL SHOULD BE AWARE OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO THOSE, THOSE INVESTORS.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT NEED TO LOOK AT AND GET BACK TO COUNCIL AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED.

IF THERE'S SOME CLARITY, FIND MY EMAIL IF YOU WANT ME TO.

YES. SPEAK THAT REAL QUICK.

YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY STAFF ENGAGED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON IT AS WELL.

SO IT WAS FIRST PUT IN IN A RESOLUTION IN 2021.

AND LOOKS LIKE THE EXPIRATION DATE WAS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2022.

SO THAT'S WHEN THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION HAD A DATE THAT IT EXPIRED.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE THE PRE-APPLICATION FEE WAIVERS FOR ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES STOPPED.

AND THE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES UNDER THAT RESOLUTION WERE THEY HAD TO BE ON A CERTAIN TYPE OF COMMERCIAL ZONING.

IT WASN'T ALL COMMERCIAL ZONING.

AND ALSO THEY HAD TO HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MINIMUM NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.

I THINK IT WAS TEN OR SO.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WHEN WHEN COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BROUGHT THAT UP, WE DID STAFF DID LOOK AT IT.

THEY FOUND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO GET IT REINSTATED BECAUSE IT BASICALLY EXPIRED.

SO IT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO IN JULY IF YOU ALL WANTED TO.

WE ALSO ARE WORKING ON BRINGING YOU A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP TO UPDATE YOU ON LOTS OF THINGS RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY YOU COULD TALK ABOUT AND DECIDE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO REINSTATE.

YOU KNOW, EITHER THIS FISCAL YEAR OR START OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU ALL.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I, I THINK THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP, JUST LIKE THE FACADE GRANTS AND ALL OF THAT.

SO YES, SIR, YES, SIR.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I DO HAVE AND THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.

WE HAD AN APRIL 27TH, WE HAD AN OPIOID MEETING.

IT WAS CHIEF AJELLO, CHIEF STOVER, MYSELF, A CITY STAFF.

STANLEY BRIZ, PASTOR JARVIS WALSH, JORDAN CHANDLER.

JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE THE WE'RE RECEIVING FUNDING FROM THE LITIGATION WITH BIG PHARMA IN REGARDS TO OPIOIDS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS FUNDING, WHETHER WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING PORTION OF THE FUNDING FOR POLICE AND FIRE OR AND PROVIDING A PORTION OF FUNDING FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE IN ADDRESSING OPIOIDS AND ADDRESSING ADDICTIONS AND ADDRESSING YOU KNOW, A WARM HANDOFF PROGRAM THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

SO THAT WAS THE NEXT THING.

I KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT A FOLLOW UP MEETING, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY ABREAST BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS SINCE 2018.

SO AND THAT'S THE LAST THING, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THAT'S A POINT WELL TAKEN.

OF COURSE, THERE'S THE COUNTY'S ORGANIZATION THAT ACTUALLY IS GOING TO BE.

HOW MANY SEATS DO WE HAVE ON THAT? MADAM SHERMAN ON THAT OPIOID.

YEAH. TIP. HOW MANY SEATS DO WE KNOW? ONE. YEAH. IT'S JUST ONE.

YEAH. SO I AGREE MAYBE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WORK ON WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH THAT.

BREAK UP SOME OF THAT FUNDING.

OF COURSE MENTAL HEALTH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO THAT.

RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT, SIR? YES. YES, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN.

FOSTER, I BYPASSED YOU.

AND MY APOLOGIES, SIR.

WE'RE ON REPORTS.

ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO REPORT, SIR? NO, NOT NOT AT THIS TIME.

I'M. I'M GOOD.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS YOU MADE.

AND AS FAR AS MY MY, MY TERM AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IN THE FUTURE, I'M GONNA MAKE A DECISION SOON, SO I'M NOT THERE YET.

YEAH, BUT I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE ABOUT ME.

THANK YOU. SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR.

AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I.

MY TIME WAS YIELD TO MY COLLEAGUE.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR.

I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS.

I WANTED TO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

SINCE APRIL 24TH, WE'VE HAD SIX STRUCTURAL FIRES, SIX OF THEM AND 37 BRUSH FIRES.

AND THAT INCORPORATES A BIG PORTION OF OUR CITY IN THE COMPOUND, ESPECIALLY.

BUT I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THESE GUYS ARE OUT THERE.

AND I WITNESSED FIRST RESPONDERS IN THE MIDST OF THE ANNEX FIRE EVACUATING HOMES THAT WERE BORDERING ON THEIR.

THEY COULDN'T EVEN SEE THE FRONT OF THEIR HANDS.

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SO AT THIS TIME, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO TO NEW BUSINESS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

NUMBER ONE. BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, I'M GOING TO HONOR THE PROCLAMATION, SO I'M GOING BACK DOWN.

SO, ROBERT, COME ON UP, SIR.

FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR DRIVING ALL THAT WAY.

COME ON, WE'RE GOING HOME.

OH MY GOODNESS.

SO THIS IS WHY WE MADE A REALLY WE WE AFFORDED YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP HERE.

YOU THOUGHT YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO PALM BEACH.

YES, YES. SO THAT THAT WAS REALLY CLOSE.

THEY WEREN'T CLEAR. SO.

SO THEY WEREN'T CLEAR.

SO WELCOME TO PALM BAY.

THANK YOU. MUCH BETTER.

MUCH BETTER. YES, SIR.

SO WE'RE HERE.

IT IS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH.

YEAH. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

YOU HEARD THAT WE'RE THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, MR. JOINT. YES.

WHEREAS JEWISH IMMIGRANTS TO AMERICA, EVER SINCE THE FIRST ARRIVAL TO OUR SHORES IN THE 16TH CENTURY, HAVE PLAYED A CENTRAL ROLE IN THE CREATION, GROWTH, FREEDOM, PROSPERITY AND STRENGTH OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND WHEREAS THE BIBLICAL AND CONTEMPORARY HISTORY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE AND THE ENDURING VALUES OF THE JEWISH FAITH WERE VITAL SOURCES OF INSPIRATION FOR THE FOUNDING OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT, AMERICA'S GLOBAL LEADERSHIP IN THE CAUSE OF FREEDOM, AMERICANS COMMITMENT TO SOCIAL JUSTICE, AND MANY OF OUR COUNTRY'S MOST CENTRAL TENETS.

WHEREAS THROUGH THE CORE, THROUGH CORE JEWISH BELIEFS SUCH AS THE CREATION OF MAN IN THE IMAGE OF GOD, THE INFINITE VALUE OF EVERY HUMAN LIFE, THE NEED FOR A WEEKLY SABBATH, AND THE IMPORTANCE OF EDUCATION IN THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN.

THE JEWISH COMMUNITY HAS HELPED TO DEFINE AMERICA'S CHARACTER AND VALUES.

AND WHEREAS JEWISH AMERICANS HAVE MADE SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, GOVERNMENT, BUSINESS, CULINARY TRADITIONS, AND OTHER FIELDS IN THE UNITED STATES, AND JEWISH AMERICANS HAVE PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN SHAPING OUR AMERICAN CULTURE.

WHEREAS FOR 43 YEARS, EVERY PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES HAS DECLARED A PERIOD OF CELEBRATING THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE UNITED STATES OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY'S HISTORY, THEIR HERITAGE AND CULTURE.

SINCE 2006, THE MONTH OF MAY HAS BEEN PRESIDENTIALLY DECLARED TO BE JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH PURSUANT TO A BIPARTISAN RESOLUTION OF CONGRESS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY GREATEST CITY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM, DECLARE, AND PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY AS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH AND CALL UPON ALL OUR CITIZENS TO COMMEMORATE THIS OCCASION BY APPROPRIATELY CELEBRATING THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR CITY OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY'S HISTORY, HERITAGE, AND CULTURE.

NOW, IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 16TH DAY OF MAY.

MR. KYIV. CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M ROB KEEVE AND I'M ACCEPTING THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE COMBAT ANTI-SEMITISM MOVEMENT.

THANK YOU FOR PROCLAIMING MAY AS JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE CONCERNING RISE IN ANTI-SEMITISM, BOTH LOCALLY AND GLOBALLY COMPOUNDED BY THE HORRIFIC EVENTS OF OCTOBER 7TH.

THIS MEANINGFUL GESTURE NOT ONLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANT CONTRIBUTIONS OF JEWISH AMERICANS TO OUR NATION, BUT ALSO MAKES A POWERFUL STATEMENT AGAINST HATE AND DISCRIMINATION.

AND BY ACKNOWLEDGING JEWISH AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH OFFICIALLY, YOU'RE MAKING A POWERFUL STATEMENT.

TO CELEBRATE DIVERSITY AND DEMAND RESPECT FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.

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SO WE SALUTE YOUR LEADERSHIP.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED.

THANK YOU, MR. PETE. THANK YOU.

I WILL SHARE.

I WILL SHARE THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.

IN THE AFTERMATH OF OCTOBER 7TH, DECLARED THAT WE STAND WITH ISRAEL.

AMAZING. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR DRIVING ALL THIS WAY, MR. KEITH. GOD BLESS YOU.

SO THAT'S ALL YOU DO.

YOU.

AND SAFE TRAVELS BACK TO BOCA.

SO WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SHERMAN.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY'S CO-SPONSORSHIP OF BUKOWSKI'S ANNUAL CARIBBEAN HERITAGE MONTH ACTIVITIES.

I KNOW THE REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE, SO I'D INVITE THEM TO TO COME UP AND GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THEIR PROGRAMS AND WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I GUESS MADAM PRESIDENT, ARE YOU THE SPEAKER? YEAH. YES. OKAY.

YEAH. NO, ON THE OTHER SIDE.

YEAH, YEAH. AS YOU WERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

GOOD EVENING.

AT THIS TIME, WE ARE REQUESTING ASKING FOR CO-SPONSORSHIP FOR TWO OF OUR EVENTS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.

FIRST IT IS.

CARIBBEAN. THERE IS AN ARTS ON THE RIVER AT CAPTAIN'S HOUSE ON JUNE 8TH, AND FOR OUR MAJOR EVENT ON JUNE 30TH, WHICH IS THE CARIBBEAN BLOCK PARTY, WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE FUN FRIDAY.

BUT WE ARE DOING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PACKAGE.

SO AS I READ EARLIER, WE HAVE SEVERAL EVENTS THAT ARE NOT BEING CO-SPONSORED, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, WHERE WE GET DONATIONS FROM OUR MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS.

SO AT THIS TIME, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

ANY QUESTIONS? PRESIDENT, WOULD YOU REPEAT THE DATE OF THE EVENT? NO. THE EVENT AT THE CAPTAINS HOUSE.

CAPTAINS HOUSE IS JUNE 8TH, SATURDAY, JUNE 8TH.

IT'S CARIBBEAN ARTS CENTER RIVER, AND SOME OF THE FLIERS ARE GOING AROUND REGARDING THAT.

THANK YOU. AND THE LAST EVENT ON JUNE 30TH IS THAT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY. WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

DEPUTY. YES WE DO.

MAYOR. MR. BILL BATTEN.

AS ALWAYS, I STAND UP AND SPEAK AGAINST CO-SPONSORSHIP OF ANY EVENT WHERE CITIZENS ARE PAYING THEIR MONEY INTO A NAP IDENTITY, AND THE CITY GIVES CERTAIN BREAKS TO SOME PEOPLE, BUT NOT BREAKS TO OTHERS.

I FIND THAT PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

WITH THAT IN MIND, I THOUGHT IT WAS STRANGE WHEN LOOKING THROUGH THE WEBSITE, AND I SAW THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS HAVING A GOLF TOURNAMENT, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO CONTRIBUTE FOR FUNDRAISERS SO THAT PARKS AND RECREATION DOES NOT HAVE TO.

PAY FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SUPPORT.

SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR DONATIONS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SUPPORT THE FREEBIES.

BUT YET THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS GIVING FREEBIES.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN HAVE BOTH ASK FOR A CONTRIBUTION FOR A GOLF TOURNAMENT THAT CAN'T EVEN BE HELD IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IT HAS TO GO OUT OF THE CITY FOR THE FUNDRAISER. SO MY MY STATEMENT WITH THAT IS IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO SPONSOR IT, THEN DON'T SPONSOR IT.

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RIGHT. YOU DON'T ASK FOR CONTRIBUTIONS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR IT.

MADAM CHAIRMAN ABOUT THE GOLF TOURNAMENT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING THAT? I'M AWARE OF THE EVENT.

CERTAINLY. FRED.

POPPY, IF YOU'D LIKE. MORE DETAIL CAN PROVIDE THAT.

YEAH. FRED, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AND JUST SHARING WHAT THE THE DIFFERENCE, IF YOU WILL, OR THE GOLF TOURNAMENT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

AND THOSE FUNDS GO THAT WE RAISE FROM THAT WE PUT BACK INTO THE OPERATIONS.

SOME OF IT GOES TOWARDS SWIM LESSONS OR OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO IT BASICALLY JUST GOES BACK TO HELP US PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MAYOR. I NEED A MOTION.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR IS SAME AS AS YOU KNOW, ALWAYS MENTIONED THAT THOSE THE VALUE THESE EVENT BRING TO THE COMMUNITY.

CERTAINLY WE CAN PUT A PRICE ON IT.

SO IT'S REALLY HELPING CONTRIBUTE, CONTRIBUTING TO THE DIVERSITY WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE COULDN'T COUNT ON OUR RECREATION TO PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT FOR OUR CITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO THESE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS WE GO ALONGSIDE THEM REALLY TO, TO FILL THAT GAP, I THINK, AND NOT TO SAY THAT THE ADDED VALUE THESE EVENTS BRING TO THE COMMUNITY, I THINK WE COULD COULDN'T NOT PUT A PRICE ON IT.

SO THAT'S WHY I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS MAYOR.

THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER, WOULD YOU WANT TO SAY A FEW WORDS REGARDING THIS ONE? YES, MAYOR.

THE PROCLAMATION HE GAVE SAYS IT ALL.

WHAT PICASSO BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY, WHAT THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND THIS, THIS CARIBBEAN HERITAGE MONTH BRINGS BACK A VALUE THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON FOR.

FOR THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND FOR FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND TO BRING THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY THAT THAT WE HAVE IN THIS CITY.

SO I SUPPORT IT.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO.

AYE, AYE.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO.

OR. BY THREE.

IT WAS NEW BUSINESS AS YOU WERE.

NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER THREE.

YES, SIR. MADAM, SIR OR MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU SIR. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THE CONSIDERATION OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH THE PALM BAY INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF FIREFIGHTERS.

IAFF LOCAL 2446.

BOTH THE RANK AND FILE AND SUPERVISORS UNITS.

ESSENTIALLY, THE CONTRACT DOES A COUPLE OF SIGNIFICANT THINGS REGARDING OUR FIREFIGHTER TEAM.

ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT IT DOES IS IT CREATES A GREAT INVESTMENT IN THE SALARY RANGES FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

AND JUST TO GO THROUGH THAT IN HIGH LEVEL, THIS WOULD BE A THREE YEAR CONTRACT.

NEW FIREFIGHTER IN YEAR ONE WOULD BASICALLY MOVE FROM $42,511 A YEAR TO $47,187 A YEAR AS A NEW PAY RATE.

THE SAME SHIFT WOULD OCCUR FOR DRIVER ENGINEERS, LIEUTENANTS AND BATTALION CHIEFS.

THE THREE YEAR PLAN IS ESSENTIALLY YEAR ONE IS AN 11% INCREASE PLUS A 3% STEP.

YEAR TWO IS A 10% INCREASE.

YEAR THREE IS AN 8% INCREASE.

ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU'LL RECALL BACK IN LATE 2023, COUNCIL APPROVED AN INCENTIVE FOR PARAMEDICS OF $12,500. BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE GOALS TO IMPROVE AND EXPAND THE NUMBER OF PARAMEDICS WE HAVE ON OUR TEAM.

SO THAT ALSO WAS ADDED INTO THE CONTRACT, AS WELL AS A SERIES OF ADD PAY CHANGES AND SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PENSION MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION CHANGES.

SO ALL THOSE ITEMS ARE PART OF THE CONTRACT.

THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER VARIOUS LANGUAGE CHANGES THAT YOU CAN SEE IN THE ATTACHED ARTICLES AS YOU GO THROUGH THEM, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES WITH THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FISCAL IMPACT.

AND THE THREE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ON TUESDAY, I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST TO GO THROUGH THOSE FOR COUNCIL.

WE'LL BRING THOSE UP REAL QUICK.

SO NUMBER THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS APPLICABLE TO IAFF ONLY THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS A CONCEPT RELATED TO

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ARTICLE 39 THAT IS RELATED TO ALCOHOL AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE POLICY AND TESTING.

AND ESSENTIALLY THE NEGOTIATED LANGUAGE THAT WE CAME TO WITH ON TUESDAY SAID THAT THE ARTICLE WOULD BE WORKED THROUGH AND WE WOULD REOPEN IT AND FINALIZE CHANGES THAT STILL NEED TO BE MADE TO IT BY APRIL OF 2025.

THE REQUEST THAT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS WE MOVED THAT TO AN OCTOBER GET IT DONE BASICALLY BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST, 2024. THE SECOND ITEM THAT WAS REFERENCED FOR BOTH ARTICLES THAT WAS REQUESTED WAS RELATED TO ESSENTIALLY THE TIME IT TAKES FOR GRIEVANCES, A REQUEST THAT IF A GRIEVANCE IS NOT PROSECUTED WITHIN SIX MONTHS FROM SELECTION OF THE ARBITRATOR, IT WILL BE DEEMED WITHDRAWN.

AND THERE'S A LITTLE MORE LANGUAGE TO THAT.

AND THE THIRD ITEM WAS A REQUEST REGARDING ESSENTIALLY PUTTING IN A REFERENCE TO THE 3% CAP, WHICH IS PART OF OUR CHARTER.

AND ESSENTIALLY WOULD SAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A REOPENER LIMITED TO COMPENSATION FOR YEARS TWO AND THREE.

REGARDING THE 3% CAP AND FISCAL CONCERNS, THOSE THREE ITEMS THAT CAME UP IN TUESDAY'S MEETING.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN POLICE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF HR DIRECTOR WITH THE UNION REPRESENTATION.

WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME DEFINITE CONCERNS ABOUT SOME OF THAT LANGUAGE.

CERTAINLY HAPPY TO WORK THROUGH MORE DETAILS, IF YOU'D LIKE US TO, BUT JUST VERY HIGH LEVEL.

WE WE DID GET SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT, SO, MA'AM, AND AND JUST SINCE YOU'RE ON THAT THE AS YOU IN GOOD FAITH WERE BARGAINING THESE CONTRACTS, RIGHT.

YOU WERE IN PART OF THESE NEGOTIATIONS AND IN THAT GOOD FAITH THE BOTH BOTH, LET'S SAY WITH IAFF.

RIGHT. THEY ALREADY VOTED ON ON THIS RESOLUTION.

YES, SIR. BOTH BOTH I.F.F AND FOP VOTED, AND THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS TO ACCEPT THE CONTRACTS.

THE VOTE WAS UNANIMOUS.

YES, SIR. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT PART OF THAT BRIEF WAS THAT.

IS THAT THE FIRST TIME THAT IT'S BEEN UNANIMOUS? UNANIMOUS VOTE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE HISTORY.

I'D HAVE TO SEE IF THE CHIEFS KNOW OR EVEN THE UNION REPS, BUT I THINK THAT IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL DOES THAT.

YES. YOUR PRESENTATION MA'AM.

YEAH. GO AHEAD, MISS JOHNSON.

I MEAN, I'M SORRY. MISS SHERMAN, YOU WENT OVER THE THE REVISION.

SOME OF THE CONCERN AS FAR AS THE ADDED LANGUAGE NOW IS THERE? IT'S THREE SECTIONS. YOU MENTIONED ONE, TWO AND THREE.

IS THERE A PARTICULAR SECTION? WAS IT NUMBER THREE AS YOU READ IT THAT CREATE MORE OF A CONCERN? AS YOU SHARE BACK WITH THE UNION, WHICH ONE DID YOU GET DIRECT FEEDBACK AS TO WHAT PART OF IT WHICH SECTION OF? WELL, THE FEEDBACK I GOT FROM IAFF, WHICH IS THROUGH THE HR DIRECTOR, SO I WAS NOT DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION, WAS THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED WITH ALL OF THE LANGUAGE, ALL THREE SCENARIOS.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN.

GO AHEAD. BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE TALKING TO EVERYBODY, BUT THE PROPOSER OF THE LANGUAGE.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO'S SUPPOSED TO WORK IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

I WOULD LIKE HER TAKE ON, YOU KNOW, ALL THREE ITEMS OF WHY SHE PROPOSED, WHAT SHE PROPOSED.

BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS SIZE.

NOT HAPPY, THIS SIZE.

NOT HAPPY. WE HAVE A WHOLE MONTH OF JUNE OF NO COUNCIL MEETINGS.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. WE CAN JUST WORK THIS OUT AND THEN COME RIGHT BACK TO IT.

IT'S NOT ACTIVE UNTIL OCTOBER, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S FEELING COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. I'M I'M IN SUPPORT.

BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY FROM THE LEGAL SIDE.

THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT MAYOR.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MADAM PATRICIA SMITH'S TAKE ON THIS.

OKAY. MADAM SMITH.

WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ACTUALLY UNIQUE WITH THE IAAF CONTRACT, WHICH LEGAL WAS NOT CONSULTED, THAT THIS PART WAS BEING NEGOTIATED AND LEGAL RISK IS UNDER MY DEPARTMENT.

AND BETWEEN YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, YOUR TORT ATTORNEY AND YOUR RISK MANAGER WE DO HAVE ISSUES WITH IS CONTRARY TO FOP WHO DID NEGOTIATE AS FAR AS CHANGES IN THE RANDOM DRUG TESTING.

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THEY NEGOTIATED TESTING AND THERE'S NOTHING TO FREEZE IT, WHEREAS THEIR MEMBERS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO RANDOM DRUG TESTING.

HOWEVER, IF MEMBERS WOULD NOT, THERE IS A FREEZE ON ANY RANDOM DRUG TESTING AND IT DOESN'T REOPEN THE 2025.

I, AS YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, DO BELIEVE THAT OUR MEN AND WOMEN ARE UPHOLDING THE LAW, THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING CITY POLICY.

BUT AS FAR AS ANY TYPE OF LIABILITY, THE PUBLIC OR THE PERCEPTION IS GOING TO BE THAT OUR PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BE TESTED AND WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE USING AND THAT WILL CREATE ISSUES AS FAR AS DEFENDING THE CITY.

CERTAINLY IF THEY WANT TO MAKE CHANGES, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THEIR CHANGES JUST AS WELL AS FOP DID.

IF FOP PEOPLE CAN BE SUBJECTED TO IT, SO CAN THEY.

IT DOES CREATE A NEGATIVE INFERENCE AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR US TO DEFEND.

I HAVE YET ME AND MY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH ANYTHING THAT WE CAN SAY TO THE PUBLIC OR ANYONE THAT IS IN LITIGATION WITH US, WHY THERE IS A INTEREST IN THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY TO KEEP OUR FIREFIGHTERS FROM BEING RANDOMLY DRUG TESTED.

SO THAT MAKES THINGS DIFFICULT.

IF ALSO IS UNIQUE IN THAT THEY HAVE TWO REACTORS, THEY HAVE THE ONE FOR THE DRUG TESTING, THEY HAVE A REOPENER.

IF SOMEHOW THE 3% CAP GOES AWAY, THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC REOPENER WHERE WE HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE WITH THEM, PERHAPS TO INCREASE THEIR COMPENSATION.

HOWEVER, IF, AS THE CITY MANAGER HAS SAID THAT IT WOULD BE HARD TO GO FORWARD AFTER YEAR ONE WITHOUT ADDITIONAL TAX FUNDS, AND WE FIND OURSELVES IN A CRUNCH, WE CAN'T REOPEN.

SO WE'RE NOT REOPENING BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY.

WHY SHOULD THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF US REOPENING IF SOMEHOW IT WENT AWAY? IT IT JUST DOES NOT SEEM.

FAIR TO HAVE A ONE WAY REOPENER INVOLVING A 3% CAP.

AND AS FAR AS THE ARBITRATION, IT'S NOT JUST THAT IT'S SIX MONTHS.

IT'S A FAILURE TO PROSECUTE.

IF FOR SIX MONTHS YOU DECIDE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SET A DATE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FILE ANY MOTIONS, YOU WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN THE CASE.

WE SHOULD ALL AGREE THAT YOU HAVE WAIVED THE RIGHT TO PROSECUTE.

IF YOU'RE DOING THINGS OR PEOPLE ARE AGREEING, YOU GET WHAT? THE OTHER SIDE. SOMEBODY'S SICK.

THERE'S SOME WITNESS THAT'S OUT AND BOTH SIDES AGREE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

THE ARBITRATOR'S NOT AVAILABLE.

THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

BUT IF YOU'RE DOING NOTHING.

WE SHOULD NOT HAVE THAT ARBITRATION STILL OUT THERE.

IF IT'S SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS IS HALF A YEAR.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING TO MOVE YOUR CASE, ADVANCE YOUR CASE FORWARD.

THAT IS ALL THAT IS.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. OKAY, SO I HEAR WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, BUT LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU HOW I FEEL.

RIGHT. AND I'M GOING TO ASK MADAM SHERMAN.

THIS IS A BUDGETARY THING ALREADY.

WE CAN PROCEDURALLY DO THIS IN THE NEXT NEGOTIATIONS, RIGHT? THIS COULD BE PART OF THE NEXT NEGOTIATIONS.

THESE NEGOTIATIONS ALREADY TOOK PLACE.

THAT IS NOT A GOOD FAITH EFFORT IN NEGOTIATIONS.

WE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

THAT THAT'S MY FIRST TAKE.

THE SECOND THING I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, WHICH WHICH I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT IS.

THESE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE SERVING US ARE CONSTANTLY GIVING AND GIVING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE RIGHTING A WRONG EACH AND EVERY ONE ON THIS DAIS HAS SAID COUNTLESS OF TIMES.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.

I JUST READ OFF TO YOU THAT THEY HAD SIX STRUCTURE FIRES IN 32 BRUSH FIRES OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

THEY'RE CONSTANTLY SERVING AND PROTECTING OUR OUR NATION.

THE THE OTHER THING I FIND INTERESTING IS THIS IS POLICY.

IF WE'RE THE 3% CAP IS IS AFFECTING THIS.

THAT'S POLICY.

WE COULD NEGOTIATE THIS DOWN THE RANGE.

BECAUSE IF WE'RE COMING TO A PLACE WHERE THE 3% CAP IS GOING TO CAPSIZE OUR CITY, THAT AFFECTS EVERY EMPLOYEE, NOT JUST OUR FIREFIGHTERS, NOT JUST OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL, IT AFFECTS EACH AND EVERYONE.

IF WE JUST STOPPED RIGHT HERE AND NOW, I THINK THIS IS TIME FOR US TO HONOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THESE NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.

AND I TOTALLY SUPPORT THIS.

AND THE REASON I ALSO SUPPORT THIS IS BECAUSE THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKED INTO OUR BUDGETARY PROCESS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

SO IN JULY, WHAT WE SHOULD BE DEALING WITH IS THE BUDGETS AS AS IT'S ALREADY SLATED.

THIS WILL PUT THAT THAT CONTRACT INTO EFFECT.

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YOU'RE RIGHT IN OCTOBER.

BUT THIS WILL PUT ALL THAT, THAT ANIMOSITY AND APPREHENSION OF THAT NEGOTIATION FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WE TRULY CARE ABOUT YOU, LETTING THEM KNOW THAT WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING WE SUPPORT.

AND THAT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MADAM SHERMAN.

MY QUESTIONS ARE.

NUMBER ONE.

AND I DID MENTION THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE BUDGET.

HOW HOW ARE WE LOOKING WITH THAT? AND WHAT WHAT DO YOU FEEL YOUR CHALLENGES ARE DOWNRANGE.

IF WE HAVE CHALLENGES DOWN RANGE.

SO YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE DID INCLUDE THE PROJECTIONS OF THE COSTS FOR THESE NEW CONTRACTS WITHIN OUR PERSONNEL PROJECTIONS, WHICH WERE JUST WRAPPING UP WITHIN THE PAST WEEK OR SO.

SO WE'VE LOOKED AT I KNOW I SENT SOME INFORMATION TO COUNSEL REGARDING OUR, OUR CURRENT PROJECTED REVENUES FOR THE NEW YEAR.

AS WELL AS SOME OF THE REVENUE CHANGES AND INCREASES THAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR AND THE YEAR AFTER.

SO THAT WAS PART OF THE BASIS OF BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND RECOMMENDING THE FUNDING AS A SUSTAINABLE SOURCE.

ONE THING THAT I'VE MENTIONED TO ALL OF YOU BOTH IN MEETINGS LIKE THIS, BUT ALSO IN OUR BRIEFINGS, IS IN A 3% CAP ENVIRONMENT.

YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN A PLACE WHERE THE MILLAGE RATE CONTINUES TO DRIVE DOWN.

THE PACE AT WHICH IT DRIVES DOWN DOES VARY BASED ON FACTORS LIKE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH NEW CONSTRUCTION, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE ARE INEVITABLY AT SOME POINT.

AND THAT WAS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE EXECUTIVE SESSION, INEVITABLY AT SOME POINT.

AND WE'VE DONE A HAD AN OUTSIDE FIRM REVIEW, THE 3% CAP AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR FINANCES.

WE WILL ONE DAY, ONE YEAR BE AT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE VERY DIFFICULT POLICY DECISIONS BECAUSE THE MILLAGE RATE DRIVES DOWN VERY FAR, AND THAT WILL PROBABLY OCCUR AT A TIME WHEN IT'S DRIVEN DOWN FAR AND THE GROWTH HAS STOPPED IN THAT KIND OF A SCENARIO.

THE OTHER THING THAT CAN REALLY EXACERBATE THAT IN A FUTURE CONDITION IS A SITUATION WHERE YOU'VE HAD MAYBE SOME SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, AND IN A 3% CAP ENVIRONMENT LIKE THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING A LOT OF YOUR FUND BALANCE FOR THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.

WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT NOW.

AND THE REASON WE'RE NOT IN THAT PLACE IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH GOING ON IN OUR ECONOMY.

WE'RE DOING VERY WELL AS THE CITY.

THERE'S OTHER REVENUES THAT ARE COMING IN THAT ARE BENEFITING US.

SO WE'RE WE'RE STABLE NOW.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, THE 3% CAP MAKES US VERY UNIQUE, VERY, VERY UNIQUE AS A CITY.

WE'RE THE ONLY CITY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IN THE WHOLE STATE THAT HAS A 3% CAP JUST LIKE THIS.

AND THERE WILL BE A POINT REGARDLESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SORT OF TO WRAP UP, I GUESS EVERY YEAR WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT HAVE LONG TERM FINANCIAL IMPACTS, INCLUDING THESE CONTRACTS.

NEXT YEAR WILL BE NEGOTIATING, YOU KNOW, OTHER OTHER THINGS.

WE SIGN AGREEMENTS FOR MULTI YEAR SERVICES AND CONSTRUCTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO AND EVERY YEAR WE ADD NEW POSITIONS.

WE'RE, WE'RE EXPANDING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR GROWING CITY.

AND I RECOGNIZE THOUGH THAT AT SOME POINT WE WILL BE IN THAT SITUATION IF WE DON'T HAVE A SOLUTION TO THE 3% CAP.

SO THAT'S THERE'S NO REAL ANSWER TO THAT.

I FEEL CONFIDENT IN THESE CONTRACTS NOW IN TERMS OF OUR ABILITY TO FUND THEM TODAY, BUT CERTAINLY ANY MOMENT OF A SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL CHANGE IN THE CITY'S POSITION COULD LEAD THE COUNCIL OF THAT TIME TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CHARTER PROVISION.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO ATTEMPT TO GET A SUPERMAJORITY TO USE THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO EXCEED THE CAP BASED ON A CRITICAL NEED OR AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

THOSE POLICY DECISIONS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE AT THAT TIME.

IF THE COUNCIL OF OF THAT TIME DOES NOT HAVE THE VOTES TO ACHIEVE A SUPERMAJORITY, THEN I GUESS YOUR POINT, IT DOES BECOME ANOTHER POLICY DECISION OF WHETHER THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO CUT CERTAIN SERVICES OR REDUCE CERTAIN INVESTMENTS.

AND INDEED IT IS A POLICY DECISION.

YES, SIR. IT IS.

IT IS A POLICY DECISION.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS.

DEPUTY MAYOR, ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? OKAY, SO COUNCILMAN FOSTER DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? NO. MEI MEI MEI, HAVE A COMMENT.

WHY DON'T WE PUT ON THE BALLOT THAT RAISED THE CAP TO 5 OR 6% AND YOU KNOW, TO PUSH THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, SO TO SPEAK.

SO WE WON'T HAVE THIS WHEN WE PUT ON THE BALLOT THIS NOVEMBER TO RAISE THE CAP OR THE RAISE THE CAP 5 OR 6% AND GET RID OF THE SUPERMAJORITY. AND I THINK THAT WILL BE MANAGED FROM THERE.

AND AND WE WON'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENT.

I SEE THAT THIS NOVEMBER, I, I THINK I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THAT THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING DOWNRANGE.

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BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL TO DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO MOVE TO AUTHORIZE OUR CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH IAFF FOR OUR RANK AND FILE AND SUPERVISOR UNITS.

MAYOR. I'LL SECOND THAT.

AND AGAIN I'M THIS IS THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW.

AND I, I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE THAT THE FINANCING IS IS THERE, BUT EVEN MORE OVER THAN THAT.

THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE PROTECTING US HERE TODAY.

WE'RE LOSING THEM ONCE WE TRAIN THEM.

ONCE WE TRAIN THEM, THEY'RE GOING TO OTHER COMPETITIVE CITIES.

THEY'RE GOING TO PORT SAINT LUCIE, THEY'RE GOING TO OTHER CITIES TO EARN MORE MONEY.

AND WITHIN THAT, THERE'S SO MANY CALLS THEY GO AND HANDLE ON A DAY IN, DAY OUT BASIS.

WE'VE HAD OFFICERS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOT.

WE'VE HAD FIREFIGHTERS THAT HAVE BEEN IN DANGER WITH ALL THESE FIRES, AND THEY'RE OUT THERE PROTECTING LIVES.

IT HAS BEEN MY MISSION.

TO HONOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY INDIVIDUALS.

THE NUMBER ONE, NUMBER ONE FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT IS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS.

AND SO WE NEED TO PROTECT THOSE THAT PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S WHY I MOVED THIS THIS ITEM.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I SECOND THE THE MOTION.

AND I COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING BETTER.

AND I THINK WE FACING A DECISION.

IS IT COSTLY? YES. BUT IS IT DOING THE RIGHT THING? ABSOLUTELY. ONE OF THE, THE, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS I PUT ON ALL DEVELOPERS LATELY AND YOU WILL HEAR A LOT MORE OF THAT COMING FORWARD.

ANY DEVELOPER THAT BRING ANY MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY APARTMENTS, I WILL ASK THAT YOU GIVE ME A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE AS AFFORDABLE BECAUSE THE REALITY OF THE MATTER IS ALL ONE YEAR OFFICER OR FIREFIGHTER TODAY FOR WHAT WE'RE PAYING.

CURRENT, CURRENT SALARY.

THEY COULDN'T AFFORD THOSE SO-CALLED LUXURY APARTMENTS.

THEY COULDN'T AFFORD A ONE BEDROOM.

WE COULD THEY WOULD NOT BE QUALIFIED.

FOR A TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT.

SO WE CANNOT HAVE THAT.

WE ASK, AS MAIER SAID, SO MUCH OF THEM, IT'S TIME TO REALLY SHOW IT.

YES. IS THERE SOME CONCERN? I HAD CONVERSATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY? IS THERE SOME CONCERN? YES. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK IT'S DOING THE RIGHT THING.

I TRULY BELIEVE I HAVE FAITH IN THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVES US, THAT THEY WILL BE OUT THERE.

THEY WILL BE DOING THE RESPONSIBLE, RESPONSIBLE THING, SERVING, SERVING OUR COMMUNITY.

SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I WILL SUPPORT THIS MOTION.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, I, I WOULD JUST URGE US TO REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID.

SHE WAS NOT IN THE NEGOTIATIONS.

THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY IT WAS CAUGHT LATE.

ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR US TO JUST TABLE IT.

SO THAT WAY EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE.

BECAUSE HOW CAN WE IGNORE HER ADVICE? BUT THEN IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO HER FOR ADVICE.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

HOW CAN WE IGNORE HER ADVICE? BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, THEN WE GO TO HER FOR ADVICE.

SO SHE'S JUST SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING SHE WANTS TO LOOK AT.

WORK WITH THE UNION.

SHE WASN'T WORKING WITH THEM.

SHE'S PART OF RISK MANAGEMENT.

AND I'M I DON'T SEE WHY WHAT THE RUSH IS.

WE HAVE JULY, WE HAVE AUGUST, WE HAVE SEPTEMBER, WE HAVE ALL THE WAY TO OCTOBER 1ST TO GET IT FINE TUNED WHERE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND THE SHIPS MOVING FORWARD IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. SO IT'S NOT A MATTER OF WE DON'T SUPPORT OR WE DO SUPPORT.

IT'S JUST WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE NEXT COUNCIL BLAMING THIS COUNCIL FOR DECISIONS WHEN WE COULD HAVE JUST TOOK A LITTLE MORE TIME AND HAVE ANOTHER EXECUTIVE SESSION OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO IN JUNE, BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE THOSE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE COUNCIL MEETINGS, BUT WE CAN HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE IN JUNE MIDDAY, LIKE WE DID TWO DAYS AGO.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I'M.

I'M AT, GENTLEMEN.

I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT AS IS BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL TABLING IT WILL BE THE BEST OPTION.

BECAUSE WHAT WHAT REALLY IS THE RUSH? SO THAT'S ALL DEPUTY MAYOR.

THAT'S ALL MAYOR. THAT'S ALL COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

MAYOR. IS IT? I KNOW WE CLOSED PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME TO TO HEAR FROM CHIEF OR NOW?

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CAN WE PROCEDURALLY DO THAT OR.

CERTAINLY I THINK YOU CAN.

NO ISSUE ON YOUR END.

YEAH. SO IT'S FINE.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

IF I MAY CALL FORWARD.

CHIEF OF POLICE.

CHIEF ODELL, CAN SHE.

OH! OH! FIRE! OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES. SO OUR FIRST.

I'M SORRY. SO HE CAN.

YEAH. WE CAN. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE THE UNION.

SHOULD THIS NOT MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT? WHAT MESSAGE WOULD WE SEND? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE BRIEF STATEMENT BEFOREHAND, PLEASE.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY AND THE THE COMMAND STAFF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS NOT REPRESENTED BY THIS.

SO WE HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN BY THIS PASSING OR NOT PASSING AS FAR AS MONETARY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE COMMAND STAFF, THE CIVILIAN FORCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE IN THE FIELD DAY IN, DAY OUT, 365 DAYS A YEAR, HOLIDAYS, NIGHTS, WEEKENDS WHILE WE'RE ALL HOME, SLEEPING OR CELEBRATING OTHER THINGS. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR SO THAT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE I'M TRYING TO PROTECT MY VESTED INTEREST IN THIS.

THIS IS ALL ABOUT THEM.

SO HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK IF FROM WHAT I'VE HAD CONVERSATION WISE, THIS WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL IF WE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN, THEY DID BARGAIN IN GOOD FAITH, AS DID THE CITY, AS DID THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THERE WAS GREAT CONCERN ABOUT THE FINANCIAL FUTURE THAT THE.

WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME ANSWERING FINANCIAL QUESTIONS AND EVERYTHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT THAT WAS WELL THOUGHT OUT, WELL CONSIDERED.

AND I THINK ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN COVERED.

AND FOR US TO GO BACK NOW AND SAY, YEAH, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DID FOR US, BUT NOT SO MUCH.

I THINK EVERYTHING THAT IS A CONCERN IS A VALID CONCERN.

BUT I ALSO FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS LOCAL WILL HELP US GET THOSE ANSWERS IN A RAPID FASHION, EVEN IF IT'S BEFORE THE NEXT CONTRACT IS UP.

THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO FIXING THEY WOULD LIKE TO FIX.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE WITH US.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING NOTHING TO CAUSE ANY GRIEF OR ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE ORGANIZATION.

THEY HAVE BEEN AS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ORGANIZATION IN THIS CITY AS THE CITY HAS BEEN TO THEM.

SO I HAVE FULL FAITH AND CONFIDENCE THAT THE ADDRESS, THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED HERE WILL MOST LIKELY EVEN BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE PARTICIPATE, BEFORE WE GO INTO THE NEXT CONTRACT.

SO I, I THINK IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL NOT TO MOVE FORWARD.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.

THANK YOU. CHIEF. THAT COMPLETES ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER MEMBER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN FOSTER, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.

WHO DID THE FIRE CHIEF OR THE POLICE CHIEF? FIRE CHIEF. SIR. FIRE CHIEF.

HEY, CHIEF. I PRETTY MUCH KNOW THE ANSWER.

THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION.

BUT I WANT YOU TO ANSWER IT FOR ME.

HOW IMPORTANT MORALE IS TO YOUR DEPARTMENT? EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. HOW IMPORTANT IS MORALE TO YOUR DEPARTMENT? IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE ORGANIZATION WORK.

WE. WE CAN PAY PEOPLE.

GREAT DEAL A GREAT SUMS OF MONEY OR NO MONEY WITH MORALE.

IT GOES EITHER WAY.

I MEAN, THEY COULD THEY COULD LOVE THE ORGANIZATION AND DO ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING FOR IT FOR A LITTLE BIT OR A LOT.

WHILE THERE IS A LOT OF THIS THAT IS ECONOMIC AND FINANCIALLY DRIVEN FOR THEIR ABILITY TO, AS WAS MENTIONED, LIVE WITHIN THE CITY, WHICH WOULD BE NICE TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM GOING AWAY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING HERE, THAT'S COSTING ME ANYWHERE BETWEEN 100 AND $125,000. EVERY TIME WE HIRE SOMEBODY, WE GET THEM TRAINED.

WE MAKE THEM BETTER TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND THEN WE HAVE TO START THE PROCESS ALL OVER.

SO IN A YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY WE GO, WE COULD SEE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS JUST GO AWAY BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THIS.

AND IT ALL DOES GO BACK TO THE MORALE OF THE ORGANIZATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS ORGANIZATION.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS BARGAINING UNIT THAT HAVE STAYED HERE THROUGH ALL THIS BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN THIS ORGANIZATION.

THEY LOVE THIS ORGANIZATION, THEY LOVE THE COMMUNITY, AND THEIR MORALE HAS PLAYED A LOT.

THEIR ABILITY TO KEEP THEIR MORALE HIGH WITH THE ANTICIPATION OF GETTING CERTAIN THINGS.

AND I DON'T WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE THEY'RE DOING THIS FOR A IN A WAY.

IT'S LIKE, YEAH, THEY NEED THE MONEY.

I GET THAT BECAUSE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.

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BUT IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, AND THAT MORALE PLAYS A LOT INTO NOT JUST WHERE WE ARE, BUT WHERE WE'RE GOING AND HOW HOW THE CITIZENS SEE AND RECEIVE THE SERVICES THAT THESE PEOPLE, NOT ME.

I GO HOME EVERY NIGHT.

I GO HOME WEEKENDS.

I'M AT HOME. THEY'RE THE ONES OUT THERE DOING THE REAL WORK.

WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT MAKE EVERYTHING IN THIS CITY HAPPEN.

SO I THINK THE MORALE PLAYS A LOT INTO THIS, AND THIS WILL BE A HUGE STEP IN THAT DIRECTION TO HELP THEM SEE THAT THE SUPPORT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKING FOR, BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY LOW PAID.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME HERE AND SAY, GREAT PLACE TO GET STARTED.

I HAVE FOUR YEARS TO GET A JOB OR ELSE I HAVE TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

THEY COME HERE UNTIL THEY GET A JOB SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND NOW THEY'RE GONE AND WE'VE LOST ALL THAT INVESTMENT THAT IMPACTS OUR MORALE.

ALSO, WATCHING THAT REVOLVING DOOR, THIS WILL HELP STOP THAT, AND IT WILL HELP BRING IN ADDITIONAL HIGHER QUALITY CANDIDATES THAN THAN BECAUSE OF THEIR ABILITY TO COME IN AND MOVE INTO THE CITY.

I TALKED TO ONE OF OUR NEWEST RECRUITS WHEN HE CAME HERE HIS FIRST DAY.

HE'S FROM HIALEAH.

WHY ARE YOU COMING HERE? YOU'RE GONNA LEAVE US? HE GOES, NO, SIR.

I PLAN ON MOVING UP HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO MOVE OUT OF SOUTH FLORIDA.

I JUST HAVE TO GET MY STUFF ORGANIZED AND WE WILL HAVE MORE OF THOSE AS.

AS LONG AS THEY CAN AFFORD BEING IN THIS CITY.

SIR. OKAY, CHIEF.

YOU ANSWERED TWO OF MY NEXT QUESTION.

THE NEXT. THE FINAL QUESTION IS THIS CONTRACT WILL ATTRACT MORE FIREFIGHTERS TO PALM BAY POTENTIAL FIREFIGHTERS, AM I CORRECT? WILL IT ATTRACT MORE? YES. NO DOUBT IT WILL ATTRACT MORE.

I CAN TELL YOU. WE WERE AT THE SPACE COAST FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION MEETING THIS MORNING, AND ONE OF THE TOPICS WAS THIS CONTRACT AND HOW OTHER DEPARTMENTS FEAR LOSING THEIR EXPERIENCED PEOPLE TO US BECAUSE OF THIS CONTRACT AND THEIR ABILITY, THEIR INABILITY TO MEET SOME OF THIS STUFF.

SO NOT ONLY WILL IT WILL ATTRACT NEW RECRUITS OUT OF SCHOOL THAT WANT TO START THEIR FUTURE HERE, BUT THERE'S A GREAT POTENTIAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BRING IN SOME EXPERIENCED PEOPLE, THAT WE COULD RAPIDLY TURN AROUND AND GET OUT INTO THE FIELD ON.

A LOT OF THOSE WOULD BE THE PARAMEDICS WHERE WE'RE MOST SEVERELY LACKING RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU.

CHIEF. THANK YOU. ANY ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTION? YEAH. JUST CHIEF.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. IN.

FOSTER. THANK YOU.

CHIEF, REAL QUICK, BECAUSE I'M WITH THAT MORALE BE ANY DIFFERENT? IF IT WAS APPROVED IN JULY AS OPPOSED TO NOW? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

I KIND OF ON THE MINDSET.

I'M SORRY. THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE BEEN HAVING OVER THE PAST 24 TO 48 HOURS IS I BELIEVE IT WOULD.

I DO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THEY'RE GOING TO FLEE.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WILL HAPPEN.

BUT THEY BARGAINED IN GOOD FAITH AND THEY THEY DID EVERYTHING WE ASKED OF THEM.

THEY MADE CONCESSIONS WHERE WE ASKED, THEY ACCEPTED NOS.

WHEN WE GAVE IT TO THEM, WE WORKED TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

I HAVE TO SAY, IN ALL MY YEARS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS.

THIS WAS ONE OF THE MOST THOROUGH NEGOTIATIONS I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED.

IT WAS SMOOTH, BUT AT TIMES IT WAS UPSETTING BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE FELT WALKED LIKE WALKED OUT FEELING LIKE THEY WEREN'T GETTING WHAT THEY WANTED.

IT'S A NEGOTIATION.

WE GO BACK AND FORTH AND THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE.

IT WASN'T. THEY CAME IN, THEY MADE A DEMAND.

THE CITY MANAGER SAID, OKAY, YOU GOT WHATEVER YOU WANT, LET'S GET THIS DONE.

AND OVER WITH. THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS, SO I THINK IT WOULD DAMAGE THE MORALE, NOT TO THE POINT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FLEE, BUT I THINK IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A MAJOR NEGATIVE IMPACT.

ON THIS ORGANIZATION, ON THIS CITY, IF THIS WAS TO CONTINUE, IF THIS WAS TO BE DELAYED FOR EVEN FOR THE ADDITIONAL MONTH, BECAUSE THEY GAVE IT ALL AS, AS DID WE TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT BOTH SIDES COULD LIVE WITH, NOT JUST TO LIVE WITH, TO MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY BUT THE ECONOMIC SIDE OF IT.

HOW LONG? HOW IS THIS? BELIEVE ME, I LISTENED.

I LEARNED SO MUCH IN THIS NEGOTIATION AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE.

I LEARNED A LOT FROM HOW THE CITY MANAGER HANDLED THINGS, AND HOW SHE WENT THROUGH THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THIS PACKAGE AND WHAT HOW IT PLAYED ON BOTH SIDES, SO THAT I THINK IT WAS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT.

I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD CAUSE A MORALE PROBLEM FOR THEM.

OH, YOU'RE ALL SET. YOU'RE GOOD.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, CHIEF.

ALL RIGHT. I'M. I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? NAY.

MOTION CARRIES THREE ONE THERE.

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CONGRATULATIONS. WE TRULY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR SACRIFICE.

WE TRULY DO.

AND I'M GLAD THAT THIS MOTION SHOWS YOU THAT EFFORT.

SO NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SHERMAN.

YES. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE FOP FOR POLICE OFFICERS, SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS.

UNITS. CONTRACTS.

AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE.

IF ONE OF THE GOALS OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT THAT IS SIGNIFICANT IS TRYING TO ADJUST THE THE WAGES FOR THE OFFICERS IN SUCH A WAY THAT KEEPS US COMPETITIVE IN OUR SURROUNDING MARKETPLACE.

WHAT WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT IS THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF COMPRESSION ISSUES AND ISSUES THAT HAD KIND OF COMPOUNDED IN THE CURRENT TEAM OF PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY EMPLOYED THAT HAD HAPPENED OVER MULTIPLE YEARS OF CONTRACTS.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WORKED ON IN YEAR ONE WAS A GOAL TO ADJUST SALARIES.

THAT WAS ON A VERY INDIVIDUALIZED BASIS.

SO THE AVERAGE INCREASE MAY HAVE BEEN 6%.

IT WAS 6%.

EVERYTHING CHANGING.

BUT THE RANGES OF CHANGES TO INDIVIDUAL SALARIES WAS VERY BROAD.

AND THE POINT OF THAT WAS TO ADJUST FOR TIME AND GRADE, TO AVOID COMPRESSION ISSUES AND TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS THOUGHTFULNESS AND WHERE EVERYONE WAS PLACED IN THE ENTIRE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT.

IT ALSO TAKES NEW HIRES FOR A NEW OFFICER.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT FROM 50,005 77, WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW TO $53,612.

THERE WERE VERY FEW OTHER CHANGES THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT FINANCIAL IMPACT.

THE ONLY OTHER ONE REALLY WAS RELATED TO A CHANGE IN THE MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION TO THE PENSION OR PENSION CONTRIBUTION.

AND BEYOND THAT, THE YEAR TWO WAS A 5% PLUS A MERIT, AND THE YEAR THREE WAS A 4% PLUS A MERIT.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

SO, MA'AM IN YOUR NEGOTIATION, DID YOU FIND THERE WERE OPPORTUNITIES OF GIVE AND TAKE AS THE FIRE? YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND THERE WERE SOME CONCESSIONS ON BOTH SIDES.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

THE LANGUAGE CHANGED IN MANY OF THE ARTICLES REFLECTS THAT.

ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MAN. OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COUNCIL MAYOR.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE AND WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY AS SOME OF THESE ISSUES CAME UP AFTER OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION. ONE OF MY QUESTION TO CITY MANAGER WAS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE TELL ME WE ARE IN A POSITION OF FINANCIALLY ABLE SHOULD EVERYTHING DON'T NECESSARILY GO IN IN, YOU KNOW, PLAN.

OR CAN WE AFFORD THIS CONTRACT OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO AND YEAR THREE? YES. AND IF IN YOUR ANSWER WAS YES IN TERMS OF YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THAT'S THE SPREADSHEETS I SENT YOU TO REFLECT THAT PROJECTION.

CERTAINLY I WAS I WAS ABLE TO REVIEW THOSE NUMBERS.

YES, I FELT COMFORTABLE.

AND I TELL YOU QUITE HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S VERY LIKELY.

AS MUCH AS I WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THESE GENTLEMEN AND MEN AND WOMEN THAT TAKE CARE OF US, I ALSO DO UNDERSTAND THEY ARE TAXPAYERS AS WELL, THAT I'M RESPONSIBLE TO YOU GUYS.

TAXPAYER. SO SO THIS WAY IN QUITE A BIT ON ME.

AND I WANTED HER TO REASSURE ME AND SHOW ME THAT WE ARE ABLE, WE WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO OUR RESPONSIBILITY, THE PROMISE WE MADE TO THEM.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO CARRY, CARRY ON.

SO WITH THAT MAYOR.

THANK YOU. OKAY WITH THAT? THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. AND I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH IT.

YES, WE DID GET THE SPREADSHEET.

SO I WANT TO THANK MADAM SHERMAN FOR THAT AS WELL.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? YEAH. IS THE CHIEF OF POLICE THERE? I WOULD LIKE TO. YES.

CHIEF ANGELO IS HERE, AND HE'S MAKING HIS WAY TO THE LECTERN.

OKAY. HE'S ACTUALLY MARCHING, SIR.

THAT'S ROCK. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS AT THE LECTERN.

OKAY, CHIEF.

HELP ME. I GOT TWO QUESTIONS.

ONE. YOU'VE BEEN ON THE APARTMENT A LONG TIME.

TELL ME THE CHANGES YOU'VE SEEN.

IN THE EARLY YEARS OF YOUR SERVICE ON THE DEPARTMENT TO NOW.

AND ALSO TELL ME, WHAT'S YOUR VISION OF WHAT? YOU'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE DEPARTMENT.

TO WHAT PLACE? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO ACHIEVE WITH THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT? WELL, SEVERAL.

SO AS YOU, AS YOU MENTIONED, COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

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I'VE BEEN HERE FOR FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

I'VE BEEN HERE OVER 24 YEARS AS A POLICE OFFICER WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND WHEN I STARTED OVER 24 YEARS AGO, WE WERE A SMALLER CITY.

WE WERE A SMALLER AGENCY.

WE STRUGGLED WITH THROUGHOUT THE YEARS UP UNTIL RECENTLY WITH THIS CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THIS COUNCIL, WE STRUGGLED WITH STAFFING POSITIONS, EQUIPMENT.

THAT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE YEAR TO YEAR TO INCLUDE CONTRACTS THAT OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING UNITS, THE FOP WOULD NEGOTIATE EVERY THREE YEARS.

RECENTLY. WELL, LET ME ASK YOU, ANSWER YOUR OTHER QUESTION.

MY VISION, MY GOAL, NOT JUST MY VISION AND MY GOAL, BUT I BELIEVE THE VISION AND THE GOAL OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO HAVE SUSTAINABILITY, HAVE FINANCIAL SECURITIES SECURITY, I SHOULD SAY IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.

ON DIAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

I DO HAVE POLICE OFFICERS, MEN AND WOMEN THAT CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THIS CITY BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY MAKING, AND THAT'S EMBARRASSING TO ME.

IT'S OKAY FOR THEM TO GET SHOT AT, BUT IT'S NOT OKAY FOR US TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY NEED TO SURVIVE HERE WITH THEIR FAMILIES.

AND THAT'S ALARMING FOR ME.

ALARMING. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN TO PROTECT THE CITY, BUT THAT'S ALSO WHAT THE MEN AND WOMEN DO.

THAT STAND BEHIND ME IS PROTECT THIS CITY.

AND THAT'S MY GOAL.

THAT IS MY VISION FOR THEM MOVING FORWARD TO PROTECT THIS GREAT CITY THAT THEY LOVE, THAT I LOVE THAT WE'RE RAISING OUR FAMILIES HERE AS TAXPAYING CITIZENS.

SORRY. IT'S IT'S A TOUCHY SUBJECT.

COUNCILMAN. FOSTER.

YEAH. CHIEF. AND LIKE I ASKED THE FIRE CHIEF, MORALE PLAYS A VERY IMPORTANT THIS CONTRACT WILL.

HOW WILL IT AFFECT YOUR THE MORALE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT? WELL, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT IT IN MANY ASPECTS OF IT.

SO IT WAS IT WAS MENTIONED OR ASKED RESPECTFULLY WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE A MONTH OR SIX MONTH WOULD MAKE WITH REGARDS TO THE CONTRACT BEING APPROVED HERE.

ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD BY GETTING CERTIFIED QUALIFIED, TOP NOTCH CANDIDATES AND APPLICANTS TO COME TO THIS CITY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.

IT TAKES US OVER A YEAR AT TIMES TO HIRE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE QUALIFIED TO GET THEM THROUGH TRAINING.

SO A MONTH TO SIX MONTH, THAT'S URGENT FOR ME AND FOR MY STAFF AND FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE DEALING WITH 21 VACANCIES RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY, BECAUSE I HAVE HAD RESIGNATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO SOME OF THE AGENCIES THAT THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED THAT ARE GOING DOWN SOUTH.

WE'RE STARTING SALARIES ARE HIGHER THAN WHERE THEY ARE CURRENTLY NOW.

SO MORALE IS EVERYTHING.

AS YOU KNOW, SIR, WITH REGARDS TO A PARAMILITARY ORGANIZATION, A LAW ENFORCEMENT ORGANIZATION, ANY PUBLIC SAFETY ENTITY, MORALE IS WHAT KEEPS IT GOING AND TRUST IS WHAT KEEPS IT GOING.

TRUST AND FAITH IN THEIR GOVERNMENT TO HELP SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES WHILE THEY GO OUT THERE AND PROTECT AND SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEN YOU LOSE AN OFFICER TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, WHAT'S THE COST OF HIRING AND REPLACING THAT OFFICER AND HOW THAT AFFECTS YOUR YOUR WORK SCHEDULE AND YOUR DEPARTMENT? WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IT VARIES BASED ON IF IT'S IF THEY'RE CERTIFIED OR IF THEY'RE IF THEY COME WITH EXPERIENCE OR IF THEY'RE A BRAND NEW CADET COMING OUT OF THE ACADEMY THAT ARE NOT CERTIFIED. SO IT TAKES UP TO 11 TO 12 MONTHS FROM THE DAY WE HIRE THEM, GO THROUGH A BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION, BACKGROUND CHECKS ON THEM ORIENTATION, GO TO THE ACADEMY GRADUATION OR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THEIR SOLO AS A SOLO OFFICER, IT TAKES ABOUT 10 TO 12 MONTHS, ROUGHLY GAUGING DEPENDING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL.

COST CLOSE TO $200,000 TO OUTFIT ONE EMPLOYEE.

ONE OFFICER THAT COUNTS SALARY, THAT COUNTS EQUIPMENT, VEHICLE, EVERYTHING TO PROTECT THEM, AND EVERYTHING TO BE ABLE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR JOBS.

TODAY'S POLICING IS NOT IS INEXPENSIVE, IS IS EXPENSIVE.

AS I MENTIONED SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO, WITH THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE, OUR BODY WORN CAMERAS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS AND OUR OFFICERS, OUR COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY TO ASSIST, TO BETTER RESPOND, HAVE QUICKER RESPONSE TIMES TO GET TO THESE LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S CRIME, WHERE THERE'S DANGER, WHERE OUR FOLKS, OUR CITIZENS, ARE CALLING FOR HELP.

SO IT'S COSTLY.

THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN WE HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE COMING IN THAT ARE NOT CERTIFIED, IT TAKES 10 TO 12 MONTHS WITH WHAT THIS CONTRACT BEING NEGOTIATED, THE WAY IT WAS IN GOOD FAITH WITH CITY MANAGER AND OUR FOP.

WHAT IT DOES, IT BRINGS INDIVIDUALS HERE FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AFTER BEING PROPERLY VETTED WITH QUALIFIED FLORIDA, SOMETIMES EVEN BREVARD COUNTY EXPERIENCE THAT IT'S ALMOST IMMEDIATE.

WITHIN A FEW MONTHS OF THEM BEING OUT THERE AND OPERATING IN OUR STREETS AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY, AS OPPOSED TO 12 MONTHS.

AND WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM THE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY? REFERENCE THIS CONTRACT.

WHAT'S THE SCUTTLEBUTT OUT THERE THAT YOU'RE PICKING UP? WELL, SAME AS FIRE CHIEF.

STOVER MENTIONED.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE THE TALK OF THE TOWN.

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AND BY THAT MEANING, EVERYBODY'S WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE EXPECTING TO GET APPLICATIONS BY QUALIFIED CANDIDATES IN TERMS OF THAT ARE CERTIFIED HERE IN FLORIDA. OKAY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WHILE THE CHIEF IS ON ON THE LECTURE.

CHIEF I'LL BE BRIEF.

AS FAR AS WE'VE HAD CHALLENGE IN THE PAST IN TERMS OF RESPONSE TIME, RIGHT? WE DIDN'T DO TOO WELL NATIONWIDE, EVEN STATEWIDE.

WHY WOULD THAT DO? WOULD THAT HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON US ADDRESSING THIS? ABSOLUTELY. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I HAVE 21 VACANCIES.

THAT MEANS I HAVE NO NAMES ATTACHED TO THOSE POSITIONS.

NOW, THAT'S NOT COUNTING THOSE OFFICERS THAT WE'RE SPEAKING HERE.

I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF HERE TODAY, THIS EVENING THAT ARE OUT THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED ON THE JOB, THAT ARE OUT ON FMLA, THAT ARE ON EXTENDED LEAVE, THOSE OFFICERS THAT THIS JOB HAS TAKEN A TOLL ON THEIR BODIES OR THEIR PSYCHE OR THEIR FAMILIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT.

SO I HAVE VACANCIES IN THOSE POSITIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY NOT WORKING.

SO HAVING THIS CONTRACT, HAVING THOSE SALARIES TO HELP SUPPORT MY CURRENT STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT'S WORKING HERE, THAT I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND BRINGING THOSE IN THAT WANT TO COME HERE BASED ON THE CULTURE THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS HERE IN PALM BAY, NOT JUST WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NOT JUST WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS THE GOVERNMENT.

IT'S HUGE.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO MINIMIZE OUR RESPONSE TIMES OR SHORTEN OUR RESPONSE TIME SINCE LAST YEAR BY 30S WITH THOSE VACANCIES.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE BRINGING BRINGING WHAT I KNOW WILL COME WITH THIS CONTRACT AND IN THOSE POSITIONS, GETTING FILLED.

WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU. CHIEF, SINCE SINCE YOU'RE ON THE DAIS WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE CULTURE.

AND I JUST WANT YOU TO EXPOUND A LITTLE BIT ON THAT CULTURE, IN PARTICULAR, THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT AS, AS YOU'RE AWARE, AS OUR CITIZENS ARE AWARE, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL SHOOTINGS WITHIN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WE'VE HAD WOUNDED OFFICER THAT OR WOUNDED OFFICERS IN THIS TIME WITHIN OUR CITY, WE HAVEN'T LOST ANY LIFE. BUT ALL THESE SHOOTINGS THAT ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS HAVE ENCOUNTERED AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN SERIOUSLY INJURED.

MORTALLY INJURED.

BUT HOW THEY FACE THOSE AND THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE AND THAT CULTURE.

COULD YOU EXPAND A LITTLE BIT ON THAT TO.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN I WAS APPOINTED TO BE CHIEF OF POLICE HERE OVER TWO YEARS AGO.

MY MISSION AND I MADE IT PUBLIC TO EVERYBODY HERE.

WAS IN ORDER FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A PLAN MOVING FORWARD TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY, I HAD TO TAKE CARE AND PROTECT THOSE THAT WERE HIRED TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS, PART OF MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS ALSO HAS A FINANCIAL COMPONENT TO IT THAT IF THEY CANNOT SUSTAIN THAT FINANCIAL STABILITY WITHIN THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIVES, THAT'S GOING TO THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THEM COMING HERE, BE ABLE TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES EFFECTIVELY TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND ALSO TO PROTECT THEMSELVES WHEN THINGS GO BAD.

SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

IT COVERS EVERYTHING.

IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PTSD, WHICH IS ALL COMBINED WITH IT ANXIETY, PANIC ATTACKS, THE STRESSORS OF THE JOB, THE STRESSES OF THE JOB IS BEING ABLE TO PAY THEIR BILLS AND NOT WORRY ABOUT THEIR HOUSE BEING FORECLOSED ON, WHICH HAS HAPPENED.

SO FOR ME, FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE HERE AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE OUT THERE WORKING AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING THIS IS VITAL.

WHEN IT WAS MENTIONED, WHAT DOES IT MEAN IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, THIS CONTRACT BEING VOTED ON TODAY OR WAITING? TRUST. WE WORK ON TRUST, JUST LIKE OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR CITIZENS WORK ON TRUST WITH US.

WE WORK ON TRUST WITH OUR GOVERNMENT BODY OR OUR GOVERNING BODY.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT. MOVING FORWARD, I UNDERSTAND THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE AS A, AS A GOVERNMENT AS MANAGEMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

BUT WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROVIDE A PUBLIC SAFETY TO OUR CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. CHIEF. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU EXPOUNDED ON THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR. AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE.

I DIDN'T GET TO SPEAK.

IN REGARDS, ARE YOU GOING TO ASK A QUESTION? WELL, FOR STAFF OKAY.

CAN I MAKE THE MOTION? WELL, EVERYBODY ELSE HAD.

OKAY. CARRY ON CONVERSATIONS.

CARRY ON. SO I'M NOT PASSING THE GAVEL.

NO. JUST BRIEFLY.

FOR A PREVIOUS NEGOTIATIONS HAVE LEGAL HAS LEGAL BEEN PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATIONS AND IF SO, WAS IT IN-HOUSE

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OUT OF HOUSE? I MEAN, WAS IT OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS OR WAS IT USING OUR CITY ATTORNEYS? THAT'S FOR FOR WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER.

I CAN START AND I'M SURE PATRICIA CAN ADD TO IT.

WHAT WE DID DIFFERENTLY THIS TIME, WE TRIED TO MAKE SURE THE ARTICLES CAME TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MUCH MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY.

BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL THE LAST NEGOTIATIONS, THEY CAME VERY LATE IN THE GAME TO YOU ALL.

SO THE HR DIRECTOR FOR BOTH CONTRACTS, AS WE MOVE THROUGH EACH ARTICLE GOT IT TO A PLACE OF, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY COMPLETE LANGUAGE.

IT GOT SENT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

I THINK IN THE FIRST NEGOTIATION, THEY USED AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY.

I DEFER TO PATRICIA ON THAT.

I KNOW THIS TIME FOR SURE.

THERE WAS AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY INVOLVED IN REVIEWING THEM AS WELL.

OKAY, MISS SMITH.

WELL, I GOT MOST OF THE THINGS TIMELY.

THERE WERE NOT SO MUCH WITH THE FOP, BUT THE IF LANGUAGE.

AS FAR AS THE DRUG POLICY, I DID NOT GET THAT UNTIL LATE, BUT.

WE'VE HAD SOMEBODY REVIEW.

THERE AREN'T AS MANY ISSUES WITH THE FOP CONTRACT.

THERE ARE NO REOPENINGS.

THERE'S NO EXEMPTIONS FOR THEM TO BE DRUG TESTED.

BUT WE DID.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS CHANGED DEPENDING UPON THE CITY MANAGER.

WE DID USE TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY.

IT WAS OUTSIDE COUNSEL, ANDY HAMMETT WITH FORD HARRISON, WHO WAS PART OF THE NEGOTIATING TEAM.

MANAGEMENT DECIDED NOT TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY PART OF THE NEGOTIATING TEAM.

AND SO WE DID HAVE SOME TROUBLES, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME AS FAR AS GETTING THE ARTICLES TIMELY TO HAVE THEM REVIEW BY OUTSIDE. THIS WAS MUCH BETTER TOWARDS THE END WITH THE COMPRESSED WITH.

WHICH, AS I SAID, DIDN'T AFFECT FOP.

THERE REALLY WEREN'T ANY MAJOR ISSUES WITH FOP.

OTHER THING, WHAT CAME UP IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH CITY MANAGER, WHO THEN DID NOT THINK THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PAY FOR THIS DURING THE CAP WITHIN THE CAP, WHICH IS WHY I ASKED FOR THAT REOPENER LANGUAGE.

BUT THE FOP CONTRACT REALLY DIDN'T HAVE AS MANY ISSUES AS THE IF.

OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM.

SO WITH THAT, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES, I'M SATISFIED WITH THAT.

COPY THAT. SIR, I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL AND I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH FOP OFFICERS, SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANT UNITS SECOND.

SECOND. REPEAT.

DID I HEAR THE SECOND THAT.

COUNCILMAN. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WILL CALL THE MOTION MAY OR MADE THE MOTION AND COUNCILWOMAN.

FOSTER. SECONDED.

ALL IN FAVOR? WAIT, WAIT, BEFORE YOU CALL IT I GOING FORWARD, THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF WHETHER IT'S OUTSIDE OR INSIDE.

LEGAL FROM FROM FROM DAY ONE TO THE END.

SO THAT WAY THIS ISN'T AS LONG AND AS DRAWN OUT.

CITY ATTORNEY FEELS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

BUT BOTH CONTRACTS SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE SIMILAR FROM THE GET GO.

BUT THAT'S REALLY IT.

THERE'S THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE WE HAVE THE CHARTER AND WE HAVE CHARTER OFFICERS, SO WE SHOULD BE UTILIZING EVERYBODY.

SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE I GET AT.

BUT MOVING FORWARD FOR FUTURE COUNCILS FOR WHOEVER THAT THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

IT'S NO EXCUSE. SO THAT'S ALL.

YEAH. I MADE THE MOTION.

SO DEPUTY MAYOR, GO AHEAD.

SO I'M IN AGREEMENT.

COUNCILWOMAN. JOHNSON, AS I SAID, WITH THE IF, YOU KNOW, THEY ALREADY DID THAT IN IN GOOD FAITH, RIGHT, THAT THAT WHOLE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD TO ADDRESS IT WITH FUTURE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS, I AGREE, WORK TOGETHER WITH ATTORNEYS AND ALL THAT.

EVERYONE SHOULD BE AT THE TABLE.

SO YES, AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE IF FUTURE, BUT TO HANDLE IT RIGHT NOW TO SHOW THE TEAM OF OUR SOLIDARITY TOWARDS PROTECTING THEM, ASSISTING THEM.

THAT'S WHERE I STOOD.

YEAH. DOWN RAIN THE FUTURE.

WE COULD SEND THAT MESSAGE.

AND SO I'M I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT.

BUT ALL OF THIS CAME ALL IN ONE.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

THANK YOU SIR.

I WOULD ECHO THE SAME THING I DO BELIEVE.

YEAH. ALL CHARTER OFFICERS SHOULD BE INVOLVED.

ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS NOT ONLY TO US, NOT ONLY TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVED US AND ALSO TO OUR CITIZENS THAT WE SERVE.

SO I THINK IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT.

YES, THEY, YOU KNOW, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN NEGOTIATION LIKE THAT, AS SUCH.

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SO I WILL CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO MAIER.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. CONGRATULATIONS.

YEAH. MADAM SHERMAN, AFTER YOU FINISH, YOU CAN FINISH YOUR COMMENTS.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

YOU HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE HERE, AND WE ALL BELIEVE IN YOU.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

MOREOVER, YOUR NUMBER ONE MISSION.

DON'T GET COMPLACENT AND GET HOME TO YOUR FAMILIES.

YOU'RE ALL. SO, MADAME SHERMAN, I'VE HAD A REQUEST PUBLIC HEARING APPLICANT NUMBER FOR NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE FOR VACATING A PUBLIC UTILITY DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

I BELIEVE MISS POLLARD NEEDS TO LEAVE ACTUALLY, BY AROUND 815 TO CATCH A FLIGHT.

SO I WONDERED IF WE COULD MOVE HER UP IN THE AGENDA AND DO HER ITEM NEXT.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

PLEASE SETTLE DOWN, GUYS.

YOU CAN HAVE A GREAT TIME OUTSIDE.

DID YOU VOTE? I COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I. PASSES.

OH, HE JUST LEFT. YES.

OKAY. SO PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2425, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 19, BLOCK 1107, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 23 ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 16, PAGE 20 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

I'M SORRY TO KEEP YOU SO LONG, MA'AM.

CARRY ON. THAT'S OKAY.

SO I JUST WANT.

I NEED, LIKE, EIGHT FEET TO PUT IT IN GROUND SWIMMING POOL IN THE BACK OF MY HOUSE.

THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

YES, MA'AM. AND THERE'S, LIKE, NOTHING BACK THERE EXCEPT FOR DIRT, SO.

COPY. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO.

SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WE KNEW THIS WAS.

YOU DIDN'T HEAR HER.

SHE WANTS TO VACATE.

EIGHT FEET. EIGHT FEET.

SO THAT SHE COULD BUILD THE POOL.

IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WILLING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC.

HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES THREE ZERO, MA'AM.

CONGRATULATIONS. GO CATCH YOUR FLIGHT.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. EARL SIMMONS. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS EARL SIMMONS.

I LIVE AT 1527 RANGER ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

32909. ABOUT MAYBE A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, I CAME BEFORE THE CHAMBER AND I ASKED TO HAVE THE DITCH IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE DREDGED OR DUG UP BECAUSE OF THE MOSQUITOES.

AND ALSO BECAUSE WHEN MY NEIGHBOR, WE GET HEAVY RAIN.

THE WATER FROM MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE SETTLED RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, AND I WAS DIRECTED TOWARDS SOMEONE IN PALM BAY WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THAT DEPARTMENT.

I CALLED THE GENTLEMAN SEVERAL TIMES, LEFT MESSAGES, DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE AT ALL.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT DIRECTION CAN I GO FROM HERE? SO DO WE HAVE HIS NAME? VALENTINO. ON.

CAN YOU RESPOND TO THIS GENTLEMAN? APPARENTLY, NO ONE CONTACTED HIM OR.

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DO YOU HAVE A STATUS UPDATE ON THIS? YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY, WELL, GO AHEAD AND SPEAK WITH THE YOUNG MAN THAT'S RIGHT THERE.

HE'S GOING TO DO WHAT HE DID LAST TIME.

YEAH, HE GAVE ME HIS CARD AND THAT WAS IT.

OKAY. VALENTINO.

COME ON UP, SIR.

I'VE. YOU CAN SAY.

YEAH. OH, I FOUND THE.

I CAN GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON WHAT STAFF SHARED, AND I FOUND THE EMAIL BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE THE ADDRESS.

IT LOOKS LIKE. AND I'LL HAVE STAFF FOLLOW UP WITH YOU TO EXPLAIN THIS FURTHER, BUT BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY GAVE TO ME, THEY WENT OUT TO INSPECT IT BACK ON.

LOOKS LIKE MARCH 22ND.

AND THE IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEPTH TO WHICH YOU HAD DUG YOUR SWALE OUT MADE IT TOO LOW.

SO TRENCHING WASN'T GOING TO BE APPROPRIATE AT YOUR LOCATION BECAUSE IT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO HOLD MORE WATER COMPARED TO THE AREA AROUND YOU.

ADDITIONALLY, IT SEEMS LIKE THE DRIVEWAY PIPES ARE BENT AND DAMAGED AND CAUSING SOME ISSUES, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST IF YOU TALK TO STAFF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONDITIONS OF YOUR SPECIFIC LOCATION.

THEY DID NOT RECOMMEND TRENCHING THE SWALE THOUGH, BECAUSE OF CONDITIONS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT WORSE FOR YOU.

IT WOULD MAKE FLOODING.

IT WOULD MAKE YOU HOLD MORE WATER IN YOUR AREA.

FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING AND THE GENTLEMAN WHO ACTUALLY DID THE INSPECTION IS ACTUALLY IN THE BACK ERIC BLOUNT.

SO HE CAN TALK FURTHER TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR INFORMATION.

SO WHY HE DIDN'T CONVEY THIS TO ME? I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, SIR.

THAT CERTAINLY IF WE DID NOT DO THAT, THEN WE CAN CLOSE THE LOOP WITH YOU TONIGHT AND TAKE CARE OF THAT.

BUT I DO APOLOGIZE IF THAT DID NOT GET YOU, SIR.

WELL, I ENJOYED COMING ANYWAY, TO HEAR WHAT Y'ALL DOING.

AND I ENJOY YOUR INTERACTION AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

SINCE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS BEING DEPRIVED OF HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS, FREEDOM OF SPEECH BY A JUDGE IMPOSING A GAG ORDER ON HIM AND NO ONE ELSE, I WILL SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

SINCE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS BEING DEPRIVED OF HIS FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT BY.

HIS FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHT OF LIBERTY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS, BY HAVING TO SIT FOR WEEKS IN A COURTROOM, NOT ALLOWING HIM THE ABILITY TO CAMPAIGN.

I WILL CAMPAIGN ON HIS BEHALF.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF DISPLAYED BEHAVIOR THAT MAKES LAW ABIDING CITIZENS CHALLENGE THEIR GOVERNMENT.

IT IS TIME TO DRAIN THE SWAMP AND MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR. STICE. ROBERT STILES, 1796 LYNBROOK DRIVE, SOUTHEAST. I'M ASSUMING MY SPEAKER CARD IS REFLECTING TO ORDINANCES.

PALM BAY IS AN INFANT CITY, AS I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS.

AND WITH REGARD TO, I THINK IT'S CALLED THE CBP, WHEN WITH THE FORMER MAJORS PLANNER WAS THERE AND HAD AN OPEN FORUM, WHAT LACK OF PROVISIONS AND WE'RE IN A HEAT AND WHAT HAVE YOU YOU HAD GIVEN STAFF AND MY DEFINITION, SOME GUIDANCE OR COACHING TO MAKE IT MORE PROPER AND ADEQUATE, WHAT IT SHOULD BE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN FORUM AND YOU WANT TO AND INVOLVE THE RESIDENTS, YOU FOLLOW ME ON THAT.

SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF STAFF HAS THE ABILITY.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO DO, BUT IF STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO START LOOKING AT THESE OBSOLETE ORDINANCE, IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THEM BEING THAT YOU HAVE THE FORMER MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE, WHERE YOU HAVE UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY COMING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RESIDENTS PROPERTY LINE.

WE HAD THE FIREMEN WERE OUT THERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

I WALKED OUT WITH THEM.

AND ALSO YOU HAD YOU HAD A BUNCH OF LILY PADS AND 1 OR 2 PALMS. SO I WENT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK.

AND THERE'S 13 PONDS ON THE GOLF COURSE.

FORMER GOLF COURSE.

THEY ALL HAVE TO BE TREATED.

HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN THAT? THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IN THE BRIEF TIME THAT I HAVE IS I THINK YOU CAN'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT JUST

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COVERS EVERYTHING BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S DIFFERENT.

YOU HAVE THE FORMER MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE AFFECTS BACKS UP TO MANY, MANY HOMES.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE TALL GRASS AND WHEN YOU HAVE TALL WEEDS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, AND THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE FIGHTING THE FIRE ON OUR ON SUMMERFIELD PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HAVING A, A UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY OR UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY WITH NO STRUCTURES AROUND THEM.

SO WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO GIVE THIS DUE PROCESS AND LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, WHAT KIND OF FIRE RISK DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE? AND WE'RE GOING TO MODIFY THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE INHERENT RISKS THAT THESE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE TAKING ON 158 OR 198 ACRES.

SO MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO AFFECT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE, HOMES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT IS A TINDERBOX OUT THERE.

SO MY REQUEST, I, AND I HOPE I CAN FOLLOW THROUGH WITH SOMEBODY ON THIS IS THAT YOU START LOOKING AT ORDINANCES THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY EITHER DON'T AFFECT OR DON'T LOOK AT PROPERLY THE POTENTIAL DANGER THAT'S BEING INVOLVED HERE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I KNOW THAT WE WE RECENTLY UPDATED OUR OPEN SPACE ORDINANCE IN PARTICULAR WITH THE, THE GOLF COURSE.

BUT SOMETHING THAT IS STRUCK ALSO WAS THE CCP, CCP PLAN.

AND AND MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

I'M SURE THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT WHAT ORDINANCE HE'S REFERRING TO, HOW WE COULD PROTECT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THOSE OPEN PROPERTIES.

BUT THE CCP PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE HEARING MORE AND MORE FROM PEOPLE THAT FELT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE.

IT WAS JUST A AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO HOLD A MEETING AND NOT REALLY CARRY ANY INPUT.

SO IF WE COULD SOMEHOW LOOK AT THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMPROMISE WOULD BE, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING.

I'M GLAD MR. STICE BROUGHT THAT UP.

MAYOR, IF I MAY ADD TO THIS REAL QUICK I WAS IN THAT MEETING THE WHOLE THE WHOLE TIME, AND I.

I'M IN AGREEMENT, SIR.

CERTAINLY. MISS SHERMAN, I KNOW YOU CAME BY AS WELL.

YEAH. THIS IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO ADDRESS TO BE ADDRESSED WITH NOT ONLY THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT IN FUTURE REQUESTS, BUT THIS IS THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THE SECOND ASPECT IS THE I KNOW THE ORDINANCE IS WHAT IT IS NOW, BUT BUT CERTAINLY AND I SAID IT PUBLICLY. I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

I DO LIVE ON THE GOLF COURSE AND, YOU KNOW, THE SCENERY WHEN I LOOK THROUGH MY BACK, BACK PATIO, IT'S NOT PRETTY.

AND AS YOU START BRINGING THAT THIS FORWARD, IT IS A IT IS VERY CONCERNING WHICH I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M CERTAINLY GETTING READY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH MY HOA.

TO SEE HOW WE CAN INTERNALLY START LOOKING AT THESE PARTICULAR SPOTS AND MITIGATE.

BUT THIS IS A REAL CONCERN.

SHOULD IT NEED TO BE A POLICY CHANGE OR WHAT HAVE YOU? THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT AND AND MAKE A DECISION ON.

NEXT SPEAKER, DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BURNS, ROBERT BURNS.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MAYOR.

DEPUTY OR COUNCILMAN FOSTER.

I WASN'T PLANNING ON COMING HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT WE WERE IN THE AREA, AND I WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY.

I WAS HOPING TO SPEAK BEFORE ALL THE FIRST RESPONDERS LEFT, BUT I WANTED TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY FOR.

I FORGOT TO SAY, ROBERT BURNS, PALM BAY.

I WANT TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY FOR THE FIRST HAND WITNESSES I'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING BY COVERING THEM, FIGHTING THESE FIRES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IT'S ONE THING TO SEE A PILLAR OF SMOKE AT THE IN THE COMPOUND FROM YOUR HOME, OR FROM THE SAFETY OF WHEREVER YOU ARE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE UP FRONT RIGHT THERE WITH THEM, YOU SEE JUST HOW DANGEROUS THAT FIRE IS.

THOSE FLAMES ARE SHOOTING UP 20, 25FT IN THE AIR, AND IT'S HOT.

AND EVEN BEFORE ALL THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GETS THERE, THE POLICE OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE FIGHTING THAT FIRE.

AND I JUST WANTED TO PERSONALLY THANK THEM BEFORE THEY ALL LEFT.

BUT THEY BOUNCE. I GUESS THEY GOT STUFF TO DO.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS I WAS MADE AWARE OF SOMETHING GOING ON ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH DOLLAR GENERAL.

THERE'S THREE CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS CURRENTLY AGAINST DOLLAR GENERAL FROM THREE SEPARATE STATES, WITH THEM PRICING THINGS ON THE SHELF.

FOR EXAMPLE, SAY YOU'RE BUYING TOOTHPASTE AND IT SAYS IT'S 225, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE CASH REGISTER, IT'S 350.

AND THAT MIGHT NOT RAISE A RED FLAG TO AN INDIVIDUAL.

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THEY MIGHT THINK THAT'S JUST THEIR TAXES.

THEY WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION WHEN THEY SCANNED IT, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ENOUGH FOR ONE SINGLE PERSON TO BRING A LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, OVER A COUPLE OF DOLLARS.

BUT WHAT I DID WAS I MADE A REQUEST FOR PEOPLE WHO FREQUENTLY SHOP AT DOLLAR GENERAL TO KIND OF GO OVER THEIR RECEIPTS AND SEE IF THEY'RE SEEING THIS HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AND THEY ARE A LOT.

SO MUCH SO THAT I TALKED TO SOME OF THE FORMER MANAGERS OF THE DOLLAR GENERALS HERE THAT SAY THEY SEE UPWARDS OF 500 CUSTOMERS PER DAY.

NOW, IF YOU IF YOU JUST SAY THAT'S A $2 DISCREPANCY PER PERSON, THAT'S $1,000 PER DAY, THAT THEY'RE BASICALLY STEALING FROM OUR FROM THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S JUST ONE STORE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DOLLAR GENERALS WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CITY OR WITHIN THE COUNTY.

THAT'S FUNNY, BUT THAT'S THAT'S A LOT.

BUT THAT MONEY IS BEING TAKEN OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT COMING BACK.

SO IF IT'S $1,000 A DAY ON ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, THAT'S $365,000 A YEAR FOR ONE STORE COMING OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY FROM THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THAT MONEY THE MOST. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT WOULD BE THE ANSWER, BECAUSE DOLLAR GENERAL'S BEEN ON RECORD SAYING THAT THEY CONSIDER THAT JUST THE COST OF BUSINESS.

THEY'RE MAKING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON TOP OF THEIR NORMAL PROFIT WITH THIS PRACTICE.

SO THEY'RE INCENTIVIZED TO DO IT WITH THE HOPES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CLASS ACTION SUIT.

AND THIS CLASS ACTION SUIT IS NOT GOING TO HURT THEM THAT MUCH.

BUT WHAT I WANT TO PROPOSE AND WHAT I'VE DRAFTED, AND I'M SURE MISS SMITH CAN DO MUCH BETTER THAN I CAN, IS LOCAL ORDINANCES THAT CAN ATTACK THIS PROBLEM WITH SORT OF A CONSUMER WHISTLEBLOWER PROGRAM, WHERE IF A CITIZEN GOES INTO THE STORE AND FINDS A DISCREPANCY WITH SOMETHING ON THE SHELF, THEY CAN REPORT THAT TO THE LOCAL COURT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT. CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN GO IN THERE AND VERIFY THE VIOLATION AND THEN FIND THE STORE A FLAT BASE FEE OF, LET'S SAY, $2,000 FOR THE OCCURRENCE, IN ADDITION TO TEN TIMES WHATEVER THE PRICE OF THAT ITEM IS, TIMES THE ITEMS ON THE SHELF, AND THE CONSUMER CAN GET A PERCENTAGE OF THE FINE.

SHOULD THE STORE BE FINED.

IF THEY DON'T PAY THE FINE, THEN THEY LOSE THEIR PERMIT OR THEIR THANK YOU BUSINESS LICENSE.

MADAM ATTORNEY, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? AND HAVE IS IS THERE PRECEDENCE FOR THAT? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY PROGRAM LIKE THAT CERTAINLY CAN LOOK.

MY INITIAL CONCERN WOULD CERTAINLY BE TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THAT WOULD BE PREEMPTED AS FAR AS US TRYING TO REGULATE THE BUSINESS PRACTICES OF A.

A BUSINESS ENTITY LIKE THAT, PARTICULARLY IN FLORIDA, WE TEND TO TRY TO GET LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OUT OF A LOT OF THE REGULATION OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE THAT'S NOT REALLY AS FAR AS RELATED TO LAND USE.

SO I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.

AND WE'D ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE COULD GET THAT BUY, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'D BE LOOKING AT A BUSINESS ANALYSIS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS IN IT.

BUT I WILL LOOK AT IT, I WILL I WILL EVALUATE IT.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

NEXT SPEAKER CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR.

OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT, DEPUTY MAYOR.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FOLLOWING.

224456767 14. 12, 17 AND 19.

SO 12.

17. ARE YOU OKAY? AND 19? 14. DID YOU GET 14? YES, 14.

WELL 12.

14, 17, 19, 17 AND 19.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO PULL AN ITEM.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON PULLED.

ITEM 12.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES THREE ZERO.

OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

NUMBER ONE, MAYOR.

OH, AS YOU WERE.

WE ARE NOW ON MADAM SMITH RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 18, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE RENAMING OF RIVIERA PARK, LOCATED AT 550 RIVIERA DRIVE NORTHEAST AS KEN GREEN MEMORIAL

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PARK, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

IS THE. MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT DEFERRED TO YOU THE APPLICANTS.

NUMBER TWO. I'M SORRY.

WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS. MY APOLOGIES.

I APOLOGIZE, I WAS STILL ON CONSENT.

OKAY. YES.

PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE IS ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 21.

YOU ALREADY READ IT, RIGHT? OKAY, WE'LL READ IT FIRST.

ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 21, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 52 BOARDS, SUBCHAPTER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD, BY REVISING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

SHERMAN. YES. THANK YOU SIR.

SO YEAH. SO THIS ITEM IS SOME THE FINAL READING FOR SOME CHANGES MADE TO THE ORDINANCE REFLECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARDS STRUCTURE, ESSENTIALLY.

AND SINCE ITS FINAL READING, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

GOOD SEEING NONE.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ANY ANYTHING TO ADD, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE NAMING OF PRIVATE DRIVES LOCATED WITHIN PARCEL 510, SECTION FOUR, TOWNSHIP 29, RANGE 37, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS AZALEA AVENUE SOUTHEAST AND BAINBRIDGE CIRCLE SOUTHEAST, PROVIDING FOR THE DRIVES TO REMAIN PRIVATE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM TWO.

MADAM SMITH.

OR IT'S 2024.

THAT'S 22.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? LOOK BACK AT. OKAY.

MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS FINAL READING FOR THE NAMING OF PRIVATE DRIVES RELATED TO AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IN THE CALLED PALM BREEZE APARTMENTS IN THE VICINITY OF SAN FILIPPO AND JUPITER.

SO ITS FINAL READING AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. OKAY.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER TWO IN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.

PUBLIC HEARINGS.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE.

WE WENT THROUGH THREE ALREADY.

OH YEAH. THE. YEAH WE WE REMEMBER SHE HAD TO TAKE A FLIGHT OUT.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

MAYOR. IF I COULD READ THE RULES FOR A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING.

QUICKLY. YES, MA'AM.

CARRY ON. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEMS. NUMBERS FOUR, FIVE, AND SIX.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING A SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNSEL FOR THE PARTY.

ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES.

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THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

COUNSEL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC.

AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

CARRY ON. SIR.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN. YOU WANT TO GET THAT MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOU? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING.

YEAH. MY NAME IS BRANT HOWELLS WITH BUILD REI.

AND I'M PART OF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP FOR THIS PROPERTY.

WE BUILD SEVERAL APARTMENT STRUCTURES IN THIS AREA.

THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY WE INTEND TO BUILD A 48 UNIT APARTMENT STRUCTURE.

IT'S TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS.

THERE IS, HOWEVER, A POWER LINE THAT RUNS DIRECTLY THROUGH OUR PROPERTY INSTEAD OF ALONG THE PERIMETER.

WE REQUESTED THROUGH MANY VARIOUS CHANNELS WITH FPL, TO BURY OR MOVE THE LINE, EVEN AT OUR OWN COST.

AND THEY DENIED US TO DO SO.

SO ALL WE'RE ASKING IS, INSTEAD OF HAVING A 30 FOOT SEPARATION IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS TO SHORTEN THE SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS TO 12FT, WE DO HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES WITHIN A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OF THIS PROPERTY THAT HAVE THE SAME SEPARATION REQUIREMENT.

SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THAT CONSIDERATION.

CAN I CAN I ASK YOU FPL PROVIDED YOU WITH A DENIAL LETTER THEY JUST SAID DENIED.

AND THE REASON FOR IT, I'M ASKING FOR THE REASON WHY THEY DENIED YOU.

THEY SAID THAT THE DIP FOR THE LINE WHERE IT'S LOCATED, IT'S NOT IN A PLACE WHERE THEY WOULD EVER APPROVE TO PUT A DIP BECAUSE OF WHERE HOW THE CROSS STREETS COME TOGETHER.

AND THEY SAID IT WOULD COST MORE THAN A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO ADJUST OTHER LINES COMING INTO THE DIP.

TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT FEASIBLE, WE WOULD HAVE TO BURY THE LINES IN THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO SO.

AND YOU OFFERED TO DO THAT IF I DID, I HEAR YOU CORRECTLY.

YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO BURY THE LINES, SO YOU OFFERED TO DO THAT AND TAKE THAT EXPENSE ON OUR PROPERTY, CORRECT.

THE 200. OH, BUT THE OTHER PROPERTY OF FPL, THEY CAN'T DO IT FOR THEM FOR THE LINE COMES FROM MALABAR ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN.

I'M TRACKING OKAY.

AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY WOULD HAVE TO DIP THE ENTIRE LINE.

I SEE. AND I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON UNDERGROUND PROJECTS ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.

SO THEY HAVE FIELD AGENTS WORKING IN THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND SO WE DID PROVIDE SOME MEMBERS OF YOUR STAFF.

THE DENIAL LETTERS FROM FPL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS AREA WHERE WE'RE BUILDING OUR PRODUCT IS OBVIOUSLY A NEW CONSTRUCTION PRODUCT.

IT'S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS TO THE AREA.

GREAT. A LOT OF GOOD VALUE.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND FOR A NEWER, REFRESHED PRODUCT IN THAT MARKET, ESPECIALLY WITH A LITTLE BIT BETTER FINISHES.

SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT'S ALSO ALTERNATIVE SLASH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YEAH. AND I WAS GOING TO TURN TO MY COLLEAGUE BECAUSE I KNOW HIS QUESTIONS ARE GOING TO BE DOWN THAT SAME PATH.

SO DEPUTY MAYOR.

YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

CERTAINLY ONE OF MY QUESTION TO WELL, LET ME LET ME FIRST STATE THAT, FOR THE RECORD, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OF THE THE APPLICANT.

AND ALSO, I KNOW COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN SHARED TO ALL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL FROM THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD BEING QUASI.

THANK YOU. HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.

THIS THIS EASEMENT HOW IMPORTANT IT IT IS TO THE PROJECT, TO THE VIABILITY OF THE PROJECT.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THE UNIT COUNT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD MAKES THE PROJECT FINANCIALLY VIABLE.

IT'S A IT'S A THREE POINT.

WELL, A LITTLE UNDER A THREE AND A HALF ACRE PIECE OF LAND.

IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THIS VARIANCE, TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A COMPARISON, WE WOULD BE ABLE, IN THE SAME AREA TO BUILD THIS STRUCTURE ON A PIECE OF LAND THAT WAS HALF THE SIZE. SO IT WOULD IT WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE FINANCIAL VIABILITY.

WAS I, I HOPE I WAS CLEAR ON THAT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

MY IS THAT.

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ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WHAT DO YOU SAY? YOU'RE DONE. YEAH. NO. ONE LAST THING.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALLOWING YOU KNOW, FROM 30FT.

RIGHT. AND I SAW WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, DID I THINK THAT CONCERNS WERE IT'S TOO CLOSE TO HAVE MULTI, YOU KNOW MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTS THERE.

RIGHT. SO I THINK MY MY CONCERNS ARE MORE TOWARDS STAFF.

YOU KNOW I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK ON WHAT FIRE PREVENTION ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND, AND THAT I THINK THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. I WANTED TO SEE THE, THE SAFETY OF, OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

WHAT WHAT MEASURES ARE PART OF THE PLAN? AND I GUESS I'LL GET THAT FROM THE FIRE CHIEF.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE BUILD OTHER OR WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING OTHER PROJECTS IN THE SAME VICINITY THAT ARE ALSO 12FT APART.

THERE ARE ONLY TWO STORY.

THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGING THIS METRIC IS BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO A THIRD STORY.

SO WE'RE APPLYING THE SAME FCC OR FLORIDA BUILDING CODES AND PALM BAY CITY BUILDING CODES TO THIS PROJECT AS WE DO THE OTHERS, WHICH IS WE BUILD A BLOCK STRUCTURE.

SO THERE'S TWO FIREWALLS.

WE HAVE FIRE GLAZING, CERAMIC FIRE GLAZING AND FIRE CORK AND ALL OF THE MEASURES THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY TAKE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY.

COPY. THANK YOU.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I WANTED TO ASK MADAM SHERMAN TO BRING UP OUR FIRE CHIEF.

NO, MA'AM. AT THAT POINT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

YES. HE'S COMING.

WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.

OH THAT'S PERFECT.

PERFECT. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

OF COURSE, RICHARD STOKER, FIRE CHIEF.

SO, CHIEF, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN IS USUALLY THREE STOREYS, 30FT APART, RIGHT? SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A VARIANCE TO GO 12FT.

ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE FIRE PREVENTION OR WHATEVER FIRE PREVENTION APPLICATIONS THEY HAVE IN THESE DWELLING PLACES? DO THEY HAVE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN THEM OR.

I CAN'T ANSWER THAT BECAUSE I'VE NOT BEEN PRESENTED WITH THE PLANS.

SO WE ACTUALLY CAN ANSWER THAT.

AND THAT'S WHY BUILDING IS HERE ALSO.

OKAY. WELL THEN YEAH.

SO I'LL ADD TO THAT JOHN PEARSON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, THAT WHILE IT'S CERTAINLY FEASIBLE TO TO BE AT 12FT APART DEPENDING ON THE METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION THAT THEY USE AND WITH OUR ORDINANCES STATING THAT MULTIFAMILY HAS TO BE SPRINKLERED, THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO DECREASING THAT DISTANCE THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. SO I'D LIKE THE CHIEF SAID, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU 100% APPROVAL THAT IT'S OKAY BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE PLANS AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRESENTING, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY FEASIBLE THAT THEY COULD DO THAT AND IT WOULD BE FINE.

SO IN THAT, COULD THEY BUILD IF WE APPROVED THIS WITHOUT THOSE FIRE PREVENTION LIKE SPRINKLERS AND FIRE RETARDANTS AND THAT MAGNITUDE? NO, SIR. THERE'S A LOT OF VARIABLES THAT GO INTO IT.

SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU ALL THE DETAILS, OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN WHAT THEY'VE PRESENTED.

BUT SEVERAL CHAPTERS ARE CONSULTANT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING CODE AND THE FLORIDA FIRE PREVENTION CODE TO DETERMINE THAT THEY DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.

BUT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE STIPULATED IN THE CODE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. THANK YOU.

HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, I'VE PROBABLY BUILT A COUPLE OF DUPLEXES.

SO IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S THE FLORIDA CODE CONSTRUCTION THAT I KNOW FOR SURE.

LEARNED THE HARD WAY WITH MY FIRST PROJECT.

I KNOW THAT THESE THINGS ARE VERY THERE'S RULES, THE THREE HOUR WALL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH THAT PUT IN PLACE WHERE, WHERE THESE THINGS GOT TO BE FOLLOWED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THAT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR NO DIFFERENT FROM THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S CORRECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING JOHNNY ON THE SPOT THERE JOHN, WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ACTUALLY, THERE IS THIS.

NO. I'M SORRY.

NOT IS THERE? IT IS. I PUT MY GLASSES ON.

BILL. I'M SORRY.

SAYS NO BUSINESS.

AM I MISSING IT? OH, NO.

PUBLIC HEARING THIS NUMBER FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR FOYE.

THERE WE GO. YEAH. MR. BATTEN, I APOLOGIZE.

THE CHANGE OF COLORS ON ME.

I'VE GOT THREE ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS.

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THE FIRST ONE IS IF YOU JUST MAKE EACH BUILDING NINE FEET SMALLER THAN THEY WOULD ACQUIRE THE SAME 30 FOOT REQUIREMENT THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

RIGHT? OR THEY COULD MAKE ONE LARGE BUILDING AND STILL NOT TO HAVE TO ASK THE CITY FOR A VARIANCE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO THERE'S 48 UNITS.

THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD 96 PARKING SPOTS.

THAT'S FOR TWO CARS PER EACH UNIT, RIGHT.

THEY HAVE FOUR HANDICAP DESIGNATED SPOTS.

THAT LEAVES ONE SPACE FOR THE NUMBER OF DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES THEY HAVE IN THIS ENTIRE COMPLEX FOR GUESTS.

SO THAT MEANS ONLY ONE PERSON COULD DRIVE IN AND VISIT THIS COMPLEX.

THERE'S NO PARKING FOR ANY GUESTS WITHIN THIS.

IF EVERY IF EVERY SPOT IS FILLED BY THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS AND THAT MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO PARK SOMEPLACE ELSE, NEED TO MAKE THEIR PLANS AND IN COURT TO ACCOMMODATE THE GUESTS, JUST LIKE THEY'RE ACCOMMODATING RESIDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT, BUT THERE'S NONE THERE.

THERE'S ONLY ONE SPACE FOR ANYBODY TO COME AND VISIT THAT COMPLEX.

RIGHT? LAST ITEM WITH THAT ONE.

AND THIS IS KIND OF TONGUE IN CHEEK.

THERE'S NO GARAGES FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE ON THIS SPACE AND ALL.

AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE PEOPLE USE THEIR GARAGE FOR THEIR STORAGE UNITS.

SO THAT MEANS WE NOW HAVE TO BUILD ONE MORE STORAGE UNIT, SELF STORAGE UNIT, SO THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE APARTMENTS HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEIR EXCESS STUFF.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU BILL.

NEXT SPEAKER SIR.

YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT AFTER IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, MR. ROBERTS. DICE.

ROBERTS. DICE 1790 605 SOUTHEAST.

YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE AND FIREMEN THAT I RESPECT BIG TIME, THEY'VE BEEN IN MY FAMILY.

YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY IS SAFETY.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE POLICE CARS.

NOW ENGAGE.

CONNECT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF WOKE STUFF THAT IS, BUT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD.

PROTECT AND SERVE.

NOW, YOU LOOK AT THIS.

I DIDN'T KNOW THE CITY WAS IN THE.

WAS IN THE BUSINESS OF GETTING OUT, GIVING OUT VARIANCES.

WHAT IS 12FT? 12FT IS IS THE WIDTH OF A HIGHWAY LINE.

YOU AND I CAN SHAKE HANDS AND 12FT DISTANCE.

OKAY. YOU HAVE A TINDER BOX RIGHT THERE.

LET ME BACK UP. I HAVE SEEN HURRICANE WINDS IN COLORADO EVERY YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN THERE.

THE THERMALS COME OFF THE ROCKIES AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN BOULDER, IT'S 120 DEGREES.

I MEAN, 120 MILE AN HOUR WINDS.

AND YOU HAVE TO TRY TO FIND ROOFING MATERIAL THAT HOLDS UP TO THIS.

WHEN I MOVED TO SOUTH FORK, COLORADO WE HAD A LIGHTNING STRIKE, AND I WAS JUST SOUTH OF 120 SQUARE MILE FIRE.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A FIRE IN GOLF APARTMENTS OR FIREMEN GO OUT AND THEY'RE HITTING BRUSHFIRES AND SOME FIRES OR OTHER FIRES.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE AN APARTMENT FIRE GO UP, THAT'S INTENSE AND PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING OUT IN THERE.

NOW, WHEN I WAS AT THE ZONING DEPARTMENT, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE ONE FIRE ENGINE THAT'S OVER THERE THAT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A LADDER ON IT.

AND THE RESPONSE TIME IS ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES.

WE'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO HEAR FORMER FIRE CHIEFS TALK ABOUT ONCE YOUR HOUSE IS IGNITED.

I THINK IF I RECALL, IT'S ABOUT 12 MINUTES FOR THAT TO GO UP IN FLAMES AND AND GUSTY WINDS TODAY.

I THINK WHAT I'M NOT SEEING HERE, I UNDERSTAND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT YOU'RE YOU'RE CREATING AN ISSUE HERE.

THAT'S A THAT'S AN APPARENT SAFETY ISSUE.

AND YOU HAVE A BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO DO HOSE DOWN THE OTHER BUILDING WHEN ONE'S ON FIRE.

THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM HERE.

IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT SOME SOMEPLACE ELSE.

I THINK WHEN YOU BUILD, WHEN YOU WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING ITEMS, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING HOUSES OR WHATEVER, YOU GOT TO LOOK AT INFRASTRUCTURE AND YOU GOT TO LOOK AT RESPONSE TIME.

THE RESPONSE TIME IS NOT THERE.

AND YOU GOT BUILDINGS 12FT FROM ONE ANOTHER.

IN MY MIND, I WOULDN'T LIVE THERE.

YOU COULDN'T PAY ME TO LIVE THERE.

SO LOOK AT THE SAFETY RAMIFICATIONS ON THAT.

AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THAT PLACE CAUGHT FIRE? AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU HAD A SUSTAINED JUST A 30 MILE AN HOUR WIND? IT'S NOTHING. AND WHEN I MOVED HERE, IRMA HIT.

WE HAD ABOUT 90 MILE AN HOUR WIND.

OKAY. WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO? SO THINK ABOUT IT.

ANY NEXT SPEAKER, SIR DAVE CLARK, IS THAT CORRECT? MAKE YOUR NOTE, SIR, AND THEN YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REBUT.

OKAY. GOOD EVENING, DAVE CLARK.

1614 ALKALAY.

I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, YOU GUYS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL TODAY.

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I WANT TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.

I TRULY BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL AFFECT WILL POSITIVELY, POSITIVELY AFFECT THIS AREA.

THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE QUALITY HOUSING PRODUCT FOR CURRENT RESIDENTS AND ANY RESIDENTS WANTING TO MOVE INTO THE AREA.

IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THIS AREA, THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE AN UPGRADE TO THE AREA.

IT'LL BE A GREAT PRODUCT.

IT'LL BE KIND OF A REVITALIZATION FOR THIS AREA.

SO I, I WOULD ASK TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS VARIANCE.

NEXT SPEAKER. MAYOR, THIS PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY. SIR AS THE APPLICANT, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT WHAT? YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAD THE PARKING, THE MAKING, THE THE BUILDING NINE FEET SHORTER.

SO CARRY ON.

FIRST FOR THE PARKING.

MOST OF THE UNITS ARE ONE AND TWO BEDROOM.

SO HAVING 96 PARKING SPACES IS ACTUALLY GIVING A LOT OF EXTRA PARKING, BECAUSE MOST ONE BEDROOM TENANTS WILL NOT USE MORE THAN ONE SPACE FOR PARKING. SO THERE WILL BE ONE.

AND JUST TO ADD ON TO THAT, WE FOLLOWED ALL OF THE BUILDING CODES FOR PARKING REGULATIONS TO HAVE ENOUGH SPOTS PER PALM BAY'S BUILDING CODES TO TOUCH ON MAKING THE BUILDING SHORTER OR ONE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR THE 30FT IF WE MADE IT ONE BUILDING, IT WOULD RESTRICT US TO BE ONLY TO BUILD, TO ONLY BE ABLE TO BUILD HALF THE SIZE OF THE APARTMENT.

SO ROUGHLY 24 UNITS INSTEAD OF 48 BECAUSE OF THE RESTRICTION ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.

SO IT WOULDN'T MAKE THE PROJECT FINANCIALLY VIABLE FOR US TO BUILD IT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY, AGAIN, BEING INHIBITED BY THIS POWER LINE STRUCTURE.

FOR THE THE WIND RATING THAT HE SUGGESTED, IT'S A CONCRETE BLOCK BUILDING.

IT HANDLES WIND RATINGS OVER 230 240 MILES AN HOUR BECAUSE IT'S CONCRETE BLOCK.

SO I DON'T SEE MANY ISSUES.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE BUILDING STICK STRUCTURES WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY VULNERABLE TO A HIGH WINDS LIKE THAT.

I DON'T SUSPECT THAT THIS BUILDING WILL HAVE THAT TYPE OF VULNERABILITY.

AND ALSO FOR THE AREA, YOU KNOW, SPEAKING ABOUT STRESS ON POLICE AND, AND FIRE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

I THINK WITH THE NEW APPROVAL THAT YOU GUYS PUT INTO YOU KNOW, PUT INTO MOTION TONIGHT FOR THE POLICE, EXPANDING THE ABILITY TO BRING IN MORE OFFICERS, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT A NEW PLACE TO LIVE WITH GOOD FINISHES, A PLACE TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY.

IF YOU LOOK AT A LOT OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THIS AREA, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

SO IT DOESN'T PROVIDE A VERY APPEAL TO SOMEBODY COMING INTO THE CITY TRYING TO BRING THEIR FAMILY HERE.

SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD CREATE A LOT OF APPEAL.

SO I THINK I COVERED EVERYTHING.

YEAH. SO JUST GETTING BACK TO TO THE WIND, I THINK WHAT MR. STICE WAS REFERRING TO THE CAPACITY OF THAT WIND PASSING ON FIRE.

I GOT THE THE CONCRETE BLOCK ASPECT OF IT.

MY QUESTION IS, THE BUILDING WAS THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND AND ANY FIRE RETARDANTS THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR BUILDING.

SO THERE'S A REQUIREMENT UNDER PALM BAY BUILDING CODE, WE HAVE A SIX INCH WATER MAIN THAT COMES DIRECTLY INTO THE BUILDING THAT'S CONNECTED TO A STATE OF THE ART FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM. WE ALSO HAVE A STATE OF THE ART FIRE ALARM SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO BE ON SITE.

SO BOTH OF THOSE THINGS, ALONG WITH THE CONCRETE BLOCK, THE THE CERAMIC FIRE GLAZED NON IMPACT WINDOWS, SHATTERPROOF WINDOWS AND ALSO THE FIRE CORK THAT WE PUT ON ALL THE SEAMS, THAT OF ANYTHING THAT ATTACHES TO THE BLOCK SO THAT THE FIRE CAN'T SPREAD FROM THE BLOCK TO THE WOOD.

IT'S JUST A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE.

WE'VE TAKEN EVERY PREVENTATIVE MEASURE THAT WE COULD TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING LIKE THAT WILL HAPPEN.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR JUST FOR A LAYMAN LIKE MYSELF.

RIGHT. I'M I'M IN ONE APARTMENT.

THE FIRE WILL BE CONTAINED IN THAT APARTMENT.

IT WON'T BE ABLE TO GO AND SKIP ONTO ANOTHER.

BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY. BECAUSE THERE'S PODS OF APARTMENTS THAT ARE BUILT TOGETHER, SO IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BLOCK.

BUT IF SOMETHING DID HAPPEN WITHIN THAT BLOCK, IT WOULD BE CONTAINED.

I WOULD THINK. I SEE BUT I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW A FIRE WOULD SPREAD OR, YOU KNOW, HOW IT WOULD START OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THERE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN, IN ALL THE APARTMENTS AND IN ALL THE BREEZEWAYS AND ALL THE APARTMENTS.

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YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY QUESTIONS.

DOES THAT IF I MAY.

SURE. THAT IS CORRECT, MAYOR.

IF I MAY REMIND YOU, WE WE STRENGTHEN OUR ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT TO MATCH THE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, EVEN WE EVEN LOWER IT FOR SMALLER APARTMENT BUILDING, FOR SMALLER UNITS TO THE THAT WHICH RECENTLY DID THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR, IF I'M NOT REMEMBER, THAT WAS THE CONCERN.

THE SMALLER UNITS, YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW WHAT REDUCED IT TO WHERE THEY DEFINITELY BY CODE THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE FIRE SUPPRESSION IN THE SPRINKLER.

ONE THING I THINK THAT STRUCK MY ATTENTION WHEN I READ YOUR EMAIL IN REGARDS OF THE DENSITY, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

THAT'S WHAT THIS THAT'S WHAT MAKES MAKES THE PROJECT ATTRACTIVE, BECAUSE ON AN MX 20 AND VOLUNTARILY, THE APPLICANT DECIDED TO REDUCE IT BY THE MX 20.

YOU GUYS TECHNICALLY COULD PUT 64, BUT YOU REDUCE IT BY 48.

I THINK THIS MEANS AN APPLICANT THAT THAT BEING CONSIDERATE OF THE SPACE OR THE GREEN SPACE AND SO ON.

I THINK THAT THAT YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT IN SUPPORT OF THE OF THE OF THE PROJECT.

ONE LAST THING I'M GOING TO ASK THAT I GOT TO BE FAIR, ACROSS, ACROSS THE THE BOARD WHEN IT COMES TO APARTMENT PROJECTS, CONSIDERING WHAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH WITH ALL MEN AND WOMEN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PALM BAY AS WE GROW.

YES, WE ARE POTENTIALLY CAN GROW ANOTHER 40%, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO WAIT TILL WE GET TO 80% TO START ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND YOU MENTIONED AFFORDABLE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW AFFORDABLE THAT WERE THROWN AROUND QUITE A BIT.

SO THE COMMITMENT TONIGHT.

I'M ASKING EVERYBODY OUT.

A MINIMUM 10%.

ON THE RECORD.

TO, TO THIS AS FAR AS YOUR PROJECT IS CONCERNED AND FUTURE PROJECT YOU MENTIONED AS WELL, AT A MINIMUM 10% OF YOUR UNITS TO TO BE DEEMED AFFORDABLE.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR IN THE AREA NEEDS IT.

THE AREA WHERE THIS PROJECT, THESE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED.

SO AND YOU'RE PUTTING ON RECORD SO 48 UNITS THAT THAT WOULD PUT US WHAT, AT LEAST FIVE OUR INTENTION IS ACTUALLY TO MAKE.

BUT YES FIVE.

YES. OH FIVE. OH YEAH.

SO WHAT WHAT IS AFFORDABLE TO TO DEPUTY MAYOR'S POINT.

WHAT WHAT IS AFFORDABLE.

WELL, WE LOOK AT THE COMPARABLE MARKET RENTS IN THE AREA, AND WE CHOOSE FINISHES INSIDE THE UNIT THAT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO REDUCE THE RENTS.

IT WILL STILL BE A GOOD QUALITY PRODUCT, BUT INSTEAD OF LIKE THE THE UNITS THAT WILL HAVE LIKE A LOWER END GRANITE, WE MIGHT DO SOMETHING SUCH AS A CORIAN COUNTERTOP.

SO WE'LL REDUCE FINISHES TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A MORE AFFORDABLE PRODUCT SO THAT WE CAN RENT IT FOR THE RIGHT PRICE.

OKAY, SIR. COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON. YOU GOT A QUESTION? WELL, YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR OWN STAFF.

BECAUSE I KNOW PERSONALLY THERE'S APARTMENTS THAT WE'VE APPROVED.

AND THE CHIEF SAID IN HIMSELF THAT OUR GUYS CAN'T GET IN.

YEAH, SO WE CAN'T JUST SAY THE WORD AFFORDABLE.

WE CAN'T SAY THE WORD WORKFORCE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT KIND OF BACK IT.

SO I WAS HOPING TO HEAR FROM OUR YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S WHO WOULD BE CITY MANAGER OR MISS EBY, WHOEVER WOULD BE THE BEST QUALIFIED TO TO SPEAK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I WOULD AGREE WE ARE ACTING CID DIRECTOR.

WE CAN HAVE HER COME UP IF YOU'D LIKE.

SO YOU GO AHEAD AND STAND BY.

WE'LL LET YOU SPEAK AFTER IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

SO AFFORDABLE FOR HOUSING SPEAKING IS GOING TO BE ARMY.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GO OFF OF THE ARMY.

AND THEN HUD DOES HAVE A CHART THAT YOU CAN GO BY TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY WOULD PAY ITS RENT AND ITS RENT LIMITS.

IT COMES OUT EVERY YEAR AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THE DEVELOPER.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WERE ASKING ME A QUESTION, BUT I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

WHEN THE DEVELOPER SAYS THAT HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IF WE ESTABLISH THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE RENT LIMITS THAT HUD HAS ESTABLISHED, THAT'S FINE.

BUT THEN MY CONCERN AND MY SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE TO HIM, FOR HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR SIX YEARS.

OKAY, INDEFINITELY, I SEE HOW DO WE TRACK THAT.

YEAH. SO WHAT'S AFFORDABLE RIGHT NOW? I'D HAVE TO. YEAH, YEAH, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

I WANTED TO SEE THE CHART.

YEAH, THERE IS A CHART AND I CAN SHARE IT.

YEAH. WITH COUNCIL.

I GUESS I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR A FIGURE.

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WELL, IT DEPENDS ON THE FAMILY SIZE.

IT DEPENDS ON. WELL, HE SAID ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS. THAT'S AND ALSO THE UNIT SIZE.

BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, AND THEN I WOULD NEED FOR COUNCIL TO LET ME KNOW.

DOES HE WANT TO DO, WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THE WHAT HE SAYS FOR CDBG, WHICH IS RENT INCOME, HOME RENT INCOME OR SCHIP? THE STATE HAS THEIR OWN RENT LIMITS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT HE'S APPLIED DIFFERENT LIMITS.

SO SO RIGHT NOW THE APPLICANT IS NOT SEEKING FOR ANY FUNDING FUNDING.

SO THAT THAT JUST CHANGED THE DYNAMIC.

RIGHT. SO I GUESS WHAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED IS OKAY, 10% EQUALS FIVE UNITS.

THE ARMY, WHATEVER THAT IS STAFF WOULD NEED TO COMMUNICATE WITH WITH THE APPLICANT.

RIGHT. ESTABLISH THAT.

AND WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS INDEFINITELY AS LONG AS THIS THIS PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY.

ABOUT 10%.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT ESTABLISH.

OKAY. THAT FAIR. OKAY.

THAT THAT THAT THAT'S GOOD.

THAT GIVES YOU DIRECTIONS I LIKE NUMBERS.

BUT, MADAM.

MADAM ATTORNEY I SAW YOU RAISED YOUR EYEBROW THERE, AND I WAS I WAS JUST PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANY OF THIS BE PART OF THE VARIANCE CONSIDERATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTACT HIM SEPARATELY AND PERHAPS CONTRACT WITH THIS BECAUSE NONE OF THIS WOULD BE WITHIN OUR VARIANCE CRITERIA.

SO I'M JUST ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT WE MEANT.

OH, OKAY. COPY THAT MAN.

YES. SETTING UP. YES, SIR.

YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.

MY FAMILY HAS BEEN IN DEVELOPMENT FOR 40 YEARS.

I'M VERY CONSCIOUS ABOUT WHAT AN AFFORDABLE PRODUCT IS.

I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AS WE GO THROUGH THE SITE PLAN AND APPROVAL STAGE FOR THE BUILDING PLANS, IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL 12 TO 18 MONTHS TO BUILD THE PRODUCT.

THE ENVIRONMENT OF WHAT IS CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE NOW TO THE TIME WHEN IT'S BUILT COULD CHANGE.

BUT STATING THAT WE WOULD DO SOMETHING ACCORDING TO HUD STANDARDS NOW IS VERY HARD TO SAY BECAUSE HUD IS REALLY BASED ON AN URBAN TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, LIKE HIGH, YOU KNOW, HIGHLY POPULATED AREA, URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WE WILL WORK WITH YOU IN ALL CAPACITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN MAKE THE PRODUCT FIT FOR THE CITY.

OKAY? OKAY.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

DOES THAT SATISFY? THANK YOU.

WHAT YOUR GOALS ARE.

YES. THANK YOU, SIR.

12 FOOT. I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT STAFF APPROVED IT.

FIRE CHIEF. I MEAN, BUILD AN APARTMENT.

SO I'M GOOD WITH THAT.

MAYOR. ARE YOU GOOD, SIR? NO. I'M NOT. NO, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF IT.

YES, I PULLED MY MORATORIUM, BUT I'M STILL.

WE HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS AND SO MANY APARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, SO MANY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED THAT STILL HAVEN'T BROKEN GROUND YET.

SO WE REALLY DON'T KNOW THE IMPACT OF WHAT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE US.

I SEE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE PROJECTS GO DADDY'S GOLF, JOE DADDY'S GOLF COURSE AND SEVERAL OTHERS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF YOU MENTIONED THAT, SIR.

I'M REALLY GLAD BECAUSE THAT ONE IS NONEXISTENT THAT THIS THIS BOARD APPROVED AND THEN THE OSMOSIS ONE NEVER TOOK TOOK PLACE.

RIGHT. SO TO HIS ARGUMENT, THOUGH, TO DEPUTY MAYOR'S ARGUMENT IS THERE'S THERE'S NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT FOR ME, RIGHT, FOR ME RIGHT NOW, AND I, I AM ON THE FENCE WITH THIS FOR ME, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN YOU, YOU KNOW, GO OR CIRCLE AND YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY ENHANCE THAT LOCATION THAT THAT'S WHAT'S GOT ME REALLY INTERTWINED WITH THIS ONE. THAT'S WHAT'S GOT ME MOVING TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS THERE AND SPRUCE UP, LIKE THEY SAID, REVITALIZE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IF YOU LOOK.

AND WE DID THAT WITH VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA JUST DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT THE REVITALIZATION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BROTHER.

BUT I, I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING AND I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH YOU IN THAT RESPECT.

I REALLY DO.

MAYOR, IF I MAY, JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE ONE THING, AND I BELIEVE YOU SHARE WITH ME.

I THINK IT JUST.

ALL PROJECTS ARE NOT CREATING EQUAL.

ALL APPLICANTS ARE NOT CREATING EQUAL.

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SO WITH THAT SAID, I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO HOLD THIS APPLICANT OR ANY APPLICANT FOR THAT FACT IN COMPARISON TO PREVIOUS PROMISES THAT THEY HAVEN'T DELIVERED.

SO TO ME, I DON'T I DON'T SEE THE THE VALUE OR THE SENSE OF, OF MAKING A STATEMENT LIKE THAT HOLDING THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT OR ANY APPLICANT ON THE BASIS OF WHAT OTHERS DIDN'T DO.

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, I BELIEVE YOU MAY HAVE SHARED.

THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE PROJECTS ON MULTIPLE PARCELS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

YES. AND IS THERE ONE ON THE CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW? A 32 UNIT IS ALREADY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

YES. AND WE'RE BUILDING SEVERAL MULTI-FAMILIES AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY AS WELL.

OKAY. SO SO WITH THAT SAID, I MEAN, I MEAN, TO ME THAT THAT MOTION I CAN'T SUPPORT I MEAN, I'VE SEEN AN APPLICANT THAT IS HAVE A VIABLE PRODUCT THAT TIE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH DESPERATELY NEED THAT, THAT HAVE A COMMITMENT TOWARDS THE CITY TO CONTINUE BUILDING MORE UNITS.

TO ME, MAYOR THAT THAT WELL, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE AND I ALSO APPRECIATE YOURS.

WHOLEHEARTEDLY. WE HAVE NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS SIDE.

NO, SIR. OKAY, SIR, YOU HAVE THE LAST WORD.

HOW WOULD YOU END YOUR COMMENTS? THAT FOR THIS COMING YEAR AND THE YEARS TO COME, WE INTEND TO IMPACT PALM BAY IN A POSITIVE MANNER WITH BUILDING THAT WILL PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL AS ALTERNATIVE HOUSING AND PRODUCTS THAT THE CITY NEEDS AND DESIRES.

AND WE'LL DO A GOOD JOB.

AND THE BUILDINGS YOU'RE BUILDING ARE WITHIN THE OGORO CIRCLE AND THOR AVENUE THAT THAT AREA.

THAT'S CORRECT. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 120 UNITS.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SOMEHOW GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.

SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

MAYOR, CAN I CONFIRM? IS THIS A MOTION TO APPROVE OR TO DENY? TO APPROVE? THANK YOU.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR.

I THINK I'VE SAID ENOUGH.

I THINK IT'S A VIABLE PRODUCT.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT.

NOT ONLY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT OF IT.

NUMBER ONE, IT'S BUILDING A PROJECT THAT CAN ENHANCE THE WHOLE AREA, AS YOU MENTIONED.

AND SECONDLY, THE DENSITY ASPECT.

THIS IS NOT A DEVELOPER TO ME THAT IS TRYING TO OVERBUILT.

THEY LEGALLY COULD PUT 64.

THEY CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, THEY CONSIDER MAKE CONSIDERATION TO BUILD 48.

TO ME THAT ON THAT MERIT, MAYOR.

AND THOSE TWO MERITS, I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THIS.

YEAH. SO AND I SECONDED THE MOTION AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE FIRE RETARDANTS GOT HAVE ME.

RIGHT. BUT TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S EFFORTS THERE ARE MANY PROJECTS, AND I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL, BUT HE'S GOT SOME.

I LIKE HIS PERSPECTIVE AS WELL.

I WILL SAY THIS.

THAT AREA NEEDS REVITALIZATION.

AND AND WHAT I SEE BEFORE ME TODAY IS NOT ONLY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT OF IT, BUT I SEE SOMEONE THAT'S WILLING TO INVEST IN THAT COMMUNITY THERE TO INCREASE THE, THE ACTUAL LOCATION, THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INVESTING AND CREATING A REALLY NICE, VIABLE PRODUCT.

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE I'M, I'M, I'M AT I SECONDED THE MOTION BECAUSE I'M LEANING TOWARDS APPROVING THIS BASED ON THAT AND THE FACT OF, OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN I, I, I ALL OPPOSED NAY PASSES 2 TO 1.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING, ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BSK CONSULTANTS.

I AM HERE THIS EVENING REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE RIVERWOOD PHASE THREE.

AND THE NEXT ITEM, PHASE FOUR, FINAL PLATS.

MAYOR, THE LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE AT THE DAIS FOR PHASE TWO, YOU ASKED ME ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT.

IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT IT GOT PULLED, SO I'LL STICK AROUND A LITTLE BIT LONGER FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT HAPPY THAT THAT EFFORT HAS BEEN FINALLY CONCLUDED AND WE'RE AT THE FINISH LINE.

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JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND ARE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

NOT ON THIS, THOUGH, MISS SAUNDERS.

OKAY. THERE WAS A PROPERTY THAT WAS 1200 ACRES AND THERE WERE 27 ACRES THAT WERE COMMERCIAL, BUT YET IT WAS WETLANDS.

I KNOW IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT IT WAS.

THE NUMBER WAS 13. BUT. YES, SIR.

SO IS THAT EVER COMING BACK? I'M WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.

OH, AS YOU WERE.

OKAY, I HOPE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION.

AND I HOPE WE HOPE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION TO YOU SHORTLY.

THAT'S THE WEST SIDE OF THE PARKWAY.

SIMILAR AREA, BUT IT'S WEST OF THIS.

YEAH, BUT IT WAS THE THE HANGUP WAS THERE WAS NO COMMERCIAL.

THERE IS COMMERCIAL ON IT.

BUT IT WAS WETLANDS AND I ASKED TO HAVE IT.

NO. SO AND I'M GOING TO DIGRESS FOR JUST A REALLY QUICK MOMENT.

SO THIS ENTIRE RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE, THE PROJECTS TO THE SOUTH EVELINE'S, WHICH IS 160 UNITS, TIMBERS, THE PLATS I'M HERE FOR TONIGHT AND THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THAT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THERE WAS A JOINT VENTURE WITH THE COMMERCIAL OWNER, WHICH IS ASCOT DEVELOPMENT.

THEY OWN THE REMNANT, I'LL CALL IT 60 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL THAT ARE IN THAT INTERSECTION AND CORRIDOR.

SO IT WAS ALWAYS PLANNED AS A JOINT VENTURE TO HAVE THE 60 ACRES COMMERCIAL WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN THE MUSIC STOPPED IN 2007 OR 8, THEY'RE STILL THEY WORK WELL TOGETHER, BUT THE JOINT VENTURE DISSOLVED.

AND SO WHEN WE CAME BACK AND BROUGHT THAT WESTERN SIDE TO YOU, THE 60 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND OUR MINE WERE PART OF THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE.

YOU AND I DISAGREED ON THAT MATTER.

YEAH. AND SO PART OF WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THAT ACREAGE DID HAVE A WETLAND AND A STORMWATER SYSTEM ON IT.

YEAH. BUT WHEN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU, I THINK YOU'LL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED.

OKAY. WELL, I WAS JUST CHECKING IF I WOULD EVER SEE THAT AGAIN.

THAT'S ALL. YOU WILL SEE THAT AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT. YES. THANK YOU MA'AM.

YES, SIR. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? IT DOES, I APOLOGIZE.

DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

NO. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

YES. ME AGAIN ANNA SAUNDERS WITH BSE.

THIS IS THE FOURTH AND FINAL PHASE OF THE RIVERWOOD RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE JUST RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

COUNCILOR, WE'VE SEEN THIS.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO COUNCIL. NO QUESTIONS.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR. OKAY, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR, I THINK COUNCIL.

AYE. AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MISS SHERMAN.

SORRY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S APPROVED PROGRAM.

YEAR 2023, ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A SHIFT OF FUNDING BECAUSE THE GOOD PARK PROJECT CAME IN LESS THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED, WHICH WAS GOOD NEWS.

AND SO THE REQUEST IS TO SHIFT THOSE FUNDS TO ANOTHER ITEM IN THE APPROVED ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.

AND STAFF WAS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

YEAH, NO, IT MAY BE A LITTLE LATE, BUT LIKE IN THE FUTURE OR WITH THAT KIND OF FUNDING I HAD.

I KNOW YOU AND I SPOKE ABOUT RENT ASSISTANCE, FPL ASSISTANCE WHEN OUR WHEN OUR RESIDENTS ARE HAVING A TOUGH TIME.

IS THAT STILL IN THE MIX, OR IS THAT GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CDBG BOARD HAS TO TAKE UP? I THINK, JONAH, YOU ASKED JOAN, YOU CAN CALL THE BROWN OR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER TO RESPOND FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. YES.

AND AND I THINK WE JUST STEPPED TO THE RESTROOM, BUT ON THE, IN THE CDBG ALLOCATIONS THAT WE GET ANNUALLY, WE CAN USE UP TO 15% OF THE TOTAL ALLOCATION TOWARDS PUBLIC SERVICES AND THE ENTITIES THAT PROVIDE THOSE PUBLIC SERVICES.

IN SOME INSTANCES, WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, COUNCILS APPROVED PUBLIC SERVICE FUNDS TO THE PROVIDER THAT CAN HELP WITH PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR THINGS LIKE ELECTRICITY BILLS, FOR EXAMPLE.

SO IT IS PART OF OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN TO PROVIDE THAT.

IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON THE APPLICANTS THAT DO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS AND HOW THEY PLAN TO USE THOSE FUNDS FOR THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES.

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OKAY. SO CAN THESE FUNDS BE ALLOCATED FOR THAT? NO, SIR. OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.

GOTCHA. IF SOME OF THESE FUNDS COULD HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED FOR THAT AND THE ANSWER IS NEGATIVE.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND FOR IT TO BE THERE'S JUST NO WAY OR WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SO IT'S YOUR IT'S 15% OF YOUR ANNUAL ALLOCATION OKAY.

WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN. SO WE ALREADY GET THAT CUT.

WE CAN'T INCREASE THAT.

WE CAN INCREASE 15% FROM WHAT WE RECEIVED.

OKAY. I'M TRACKING.

THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MASTER. CHIEF. MASTER.

CHIEF. IS THERE SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING.

NON-GLOSSY. YEAH.

I ATTENDED THE MEETING LAST NIGHT ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AND I CAME OUT SATISFIED WITH THEIR DECISION BECAUSE I GAINED MORE KNOWLEDGE.

BUT I STILL HAVE MY BELIEF AND THAT IS THE FIRST FUNDING FOR IT.

FOR GOODS PARK, THAT WAS A TANGIBLE ITEM WITH FINANCIAL MONEY SPENT OR DOLLARS SPENT.

WE HAD SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HAND THAT WE CAN PASS ON FOR GENERATIONS.

TO ME, THAT WAS A PLUS.

THAT WAS A GOOD WAY TO SPEND YOUR MONEY WITH A TANGIBLE ITEM RIGHT NOW.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, GOODS PARK THE.

WORK ISN'T DONE YET.

THEY SAID, WELL, WE'RE ESTIMATING IT'S GOING TO BE THIS AMOUNT, BUT WE'RE WATCHING AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE COMING UP IN MORE ITEMS THAT WE'RE DOING A 20% OVERRUN IN THE COST WHEN IT ACTUALLY GETS TO THE PRESENTATION.

SO WE DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO SOMEPLACE ELSE.

NOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHICH CAME FIRST THE CART OR THE HORSE? WELL, WE KNOW THE HORSE HAS TO GO FORWARD TO PULL THE CART.

RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE WAS.

WHEN I SEE THE MONEY GOING FOR A DOWN PAYMENT OR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE THAT BENEFITS A FEW PEOPLE.

AND I'D MUCH RATHER THAT THE GRANT FUND MONEY BENEFIT MANY PEOPLE IN A WAY THAT WE COULD DO.

THAT WOULD BE HAVING A GO TOWARDS SOMETHING, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT, WHERE WE COULD BENEFIT WASTEWATER TREATMENT IN THAT AREA TO ASSIST IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER, WHERE WE GET MORE THAN JUST A FEW OF THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE APPLYING FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE TOO LATE, BECAUSE THEY PRESENTED THAT LAST NIGHT, THAT THEY ONLY HAVE A SHORT WINDOW TO DO THIS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING IN THE FUTURE ON HOW TO BENEFIT MANY INSTEAD OF JUST A FEW WITH THAT CBD GRANT MONEY.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, IS THERE A DEADLINE? FOR THIS ALLOCATION.

YES, THERE DEFINITELY IS.

I KNOW IT'S COMING UP SOON.

MAYBE IN AUGUST. AUGUST 1ST.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD.

HIS CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE WARRANTED.

WASTEWATER IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS, HAS WORKED TOWARDS.

AND AND IF THAT IS A AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME REVENUE, THEN WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT IF THAT IS OKAY.

ANY ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

SEEING NONE.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]

MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS CASTAWAY POINT.

SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS $1.2 MILLION.

MY QUESTION WITH THAT ONE WAS WHAT IS THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS? WELL, IT'S ALMOST 1.3 $1.3 MILLION.

AND WAS ANY OF IT COMING FROM A ZIP CODE OTHER THAN WHERE THE PARKS WERE LOCATED? BUT I FOUND OUT NOW I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT WASTING PARK IMPACT FEE FUNDS WHERE IT GOES FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WHEN IT SHOULD BE USED WITHIN THE ZONE THAT IT'S IN.

YES, SIR. I'LL GIVE THIS ONE TO DEPUTY MANAGER JULIET MOSCONI.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JULIET.

YOU'RE WELCOME SIR.

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THE ORIGINAL FUNDING OF THE PROJECT CAME FROM UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.

THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE TO BE A FEMA ELIGIBLE PROJECT.

SO WE WILL BE REQUESTING REIMBURSEMENT FROM FEMA.

YOU'LL ALSO REMEMBER THAT WE APPLIED FOR THE TWO GRANT PROGRAMS RELATED TO FEMA.

SO WE ACTUALLY I NEED TO CORRECT ONE THING.

ORIGINALLY, OUR REQUEST WAS GOING TO BE UNDESIGNATED, BUT THEN WE HAVE RECEIVED $2 MILLION FROM THE STATE TO PRE-FUND ALL OF THE FEMA RELATED PROJECTS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE APPLIED FOR AND BEEN ACCEPTED FOR WHAT'S CALLED AN SB FOUR GRANT, WHICH COVERS THE 12.5% MATCH FROM OUR AREA.

SO IF ALL GOES WELL, THIS WILL BE COMPLETELY FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

MR.. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS $111,000 IS JUST FOR THE PLANNING COST FOR THIS PROJECT.

SO MY QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE EXPECTED INSTALLATION COST THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

QUESTION TWO WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF FAILURES YOU'RE EXPECTING OR ANTICIPATING? THE TYPE OF FAILURES THAT COULD OCCUR.

AND THE LAST ONE I WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IN A LIFT STATION, YOU CAN HAVE A BYPASS IN A LIFT STATION THAT HAS TO PUMP EVERYTHING DOWN THE PIPE.

ANYHOW, IF SOMEBODY COULD EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOU COULD HAVE A BYPASS IN A LIFT STATION.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES, SIR. FOR YES, FOR THIS ONE, WE'LL BRING UP TOMMY MARINELLI, OUR ACTING UTILITIES DIRECTOR, DON MARINELLI.

GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.

SO I BELIEVE THE FIRST QUESTION WAS HOW MUCH THE EXPENDITURE WAS GOING TO BE.

THAT IS GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT? INSTALLATION. THE THE INSTALLATION IS GOING TO DEPEND ON THE MODEL AND HOW THE DESIGN PANS OUT.

IF YOU CAN REMIND ME ON THE SECOND QUESTION, MISTER BEN HAD A TYPE OF FAILURE.

SO ANTICIPATED FAILURES.

WE HAVE HOPEFULLY NO ANTICIPATED FAILURES.

THIS IS MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, SUSTAINABILITY ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP.

THESE ARE CRITICAL WATERFRONT STATIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROTECT FROM SPILLS.

AT ANY POINT IN TIME, YOU CAN HAVE FAILURES WITH PUMPS AND ANY OTHER COMPONENTS OF THE LIFT STATION THAT COULD LEAD TO THAT.

SO THESE AND GOING INTO THE THIRD PART OF THIS QUESTION THERE EXTERNAL BYPASS PUMPS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY SIT INSIDE THE LIFT STATION, BUT TRANSFER THE SEWAGE EXTERNALLY BACK INTO THE PIPE, BYPASSING THE STATION.

SO EXTERNALLY.

SAY THAT AGAIN. THEY SIT OUTSIDE.

HE'S ASKING HOW.

YEAH HOW IT HOW YOU BYPASS THAT.

YEAH. SO IT'S THROUGH PIPING TO AN OUTSIDE UNIT.

SO THE PUMPS TYPICALLY SIT INSIDE THE LIFT STATION.

THIS IS AN EXTERNAL PUMP.

THAT WHEN ACTIVATED DUE TO FAILURE WITHIN THE LIFT STATION, OH TAKES IT OUT, THEN PUMPS IT BACK DOWNSTREAM IN THE PIPE.

COPY THAT. PREVENTING A SPILL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

ALMOST $1 MILLION CHANGE ORDER.

NUMBER FIVE. THE TOTAL ESTIMATED COST IN 2020 WAS $25 MILLION FOR A 1 MILLION GALLON A DAY PLANT. THE PLANT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ONLINE.

NOW IT IS NOT YET.

YOU WERE STILL ADDING DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA AS IF IT WAS ONLINE, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

WITH THAT, THE TOTAL CHANGE ORDERS TO DATE FOR THIS WATER TREATMENT FOR THIS PLANT HAS BEEN $6,777,000.

AND CURRENTLY WE'RE WITH THIS APPROVAL WITH THIS ONE WILL BE 870, 72 DAYS DELAY FOR A PROJECT.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THE CITY STILL HAS THE MASSIVE 2030 MANDATE FOR THE UPGRADES TO THE CITY'S ENTIRE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS. SO WITH THAT, IT GENERATES THE NEXT QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO CONFRONT THIS CHALLENGE? RIGHT. NOT THE PLAN.

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NOT JUST TO START, BUT HOW TO COMPLETE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLETE THAT WITHIN SEVEN YEARS, WHICH IS 600 AND WHAT, $670 MILLION THAT WE'RE FACING WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS.

AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING THAT WAS ADDRESSING THAT ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

I HEAR TALK AND WE'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO PAY IT.

WELL, I TELL YOU HOW BILL BATTEN IS HANDLING THAT PROBLEM, BECAUSE I'M FACED WITH THE SAME DEADLINE OF SEVEN YEARS WHERE I'M LOOKING AT A $30,000 DEBT IN MY HOUSEHOLD. SO I'M SAVING.

I'M PLANNING NOW ON HOW TO COME UP WITH THAT, WITH THAT MONEY.

AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW THE CITY IS GOING TO COME UP WITH 660 OR $670 MILLION WITHIN THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS.

I'LL HAVE TOMMY COME BACK.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

SORRY. OH, WAIT.

JEROME IS HERE TOO. THAT'S RIGHT.

EXCELLENT. WAITER.

WHOEVER YOU WANT TO TAG IN. HELLO AGAIN.

TO ADDRESS HIS.

SORRY, MR. BATTEN'S FIRST QUESTION THERE.

THE. MORE DEVELOPMENT DOWN SOUTH AND IMPACTS TO THE PLANT.

THE UTILITY AGREEMENTS THAT COINCIDED WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENTS SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT UNTIL THAT PLANT CAME ONLINE, THE SEWAGE WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE ON HOLD.

PROJECT WOULD HAVE TO BE ON HOLD.

WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHER AVENUES.

I GUESS YOU CALL IT BROWN AND MYSELF LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVES WITH THE STATE.

NOTHING GOT APPROVED.

SO WE'RE KIND OF AT A STANDSTILL WITH THAT.

HOW DO WE PLAN ON FUNDING? WELL, THE I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY PULLED BY HIM AS WELL.

ONE OF THE NEXT ITEMS IS FOR SOME GRANT FUNDING ASSISTANCE TO POTENTIALLY COVER THOSE COSTS, SO.

THANK YOU. BUT BUT IF WE DON'T.

BUT IF WE DON'T GET THE FUNDING, THEN WE'RE WE'RE FOOTING THE COSTS.

CORRECT. IT JUST GOES BACK TO THE PLANNING AND WHAT'S FEASIBLE.

I BELIEVE THE, YOU KNOW, HOW DID ONE HOW DID SOMEONE SELL IT TO US? WE HAVE A LOT OF SEPTIC TANKS AND MONEY AVAILABLE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP WILL BE, YOU KNOW.

HIGHLY THOUGHT TO BE PROVIDED FOR US.

DUE TO THAT FACT, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO ALLEVIATE A LOT OF NITROGEN LOADING AND OTHER DETRIMENTAL PARAMETERS THAT IMPACT THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

SO YES, SIR, I'D SAY OUR CHANCES ARE HIGH.

YES, SIR. I'M WITH YOU.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WELL, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD? JUST. I'VE ALWAYS HAD I'VE ALWAYS HAD CONCERNS WITH THIS MANY CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE IT IS A LOT.

IT'S EXTREMELY A LOT.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UPCOMING BUDGET.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR MONEY HERE.

LOOKING FOR MONEY THERE.

SO I'VE ALWAYS HAD CONCERNS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO OR WHAT STAFF CAN DO.

BECAUSE IT'S WELL, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY THAT, THEN YOU GOT TO SAY, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO TRY AND SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF OF FINISHING THIS, RIGHT? YEAH. THEY EVEN HIRED A CONSULTANT TO ACTUALLY THAT WAS PART OF THE CONTRACT TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD EXPEDITE.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SHORTFALLS IN THE IN THAT CHAIN, THE SUPPLY CHAIN CHALLENGES.

THEY CAN'T GET THE PARTS.

THEY CAN'T GET THE SPECIALIZED EMPLOYEES.

SO, YEAH, WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS.

THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

I AGREE. BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS LATE, AND I'M HOPING WE'LL WE'LL FINALLY GET THIS DONE, BUT.

YES, SIR. I, I GUESS I SEE A LOT OF CHANGE ORDERS.

AND BASED ON THESE, THE THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES TODAY.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE MANY BUILDINGS OUT THERE THAT ARE GOING THROUGH CHANGE ORDERS BECAUSE OF THOSE SUPPLY CHAINS BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN GASOLINE.

AND IT'S JUST IT AFFECTS THE ENTIRE ECONOMY WHEN, WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

SO. YES, SIR, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

YEAH. THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, LIKE EVEN MORE IN DEPTH BREAKDOWN OF THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO JUST ENSURE THAT IT'S NOT ALSO EFFICIENCY AS WELL.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, BECAUSE I SEE THAT AS A SOCIETY, TOO, OF A LOWERING OF EFFICIENCY IN, IN EVERY AREA.

YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

AND I SINCE YOU BRING THAT UP, I KNOW THAT WE HAD IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING.

IT WARRANTS BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE BASED ON THAT CONTRACT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THIS, TO SEE HOW ELSE WE COULD EXPEDITE THIS AND MOVE THIS QUICKER. SO I THINK THOSE STUDIES HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONDUCTED.

SO IF WE COULD JUST SHARE THAT WITH COUNCIL.

AND THEN IF YOU COULD JUST OVERVIEW STATE WHAT THOSE STUDIES INDICATED, IF YOU REMEMBER WHAT WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF, OF TRYING TO EXPEDITE

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THIS AT A, AT A FASTER LEVEL? I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO SEE TOMMY.

DO YOU HAVE THE FAMILIARITY TO GO BACK AND TALK THROUGH THAT, OR WOULD IT BE MAYBE MIKE WITH.

YEAH. SO WADE TRIM IS HERE.

MIKE DEMCO, IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP, WE'LL HAVE YOU KIND OF TALK THROUGH THAT.

YEAH, I THINK I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BRINGS UP A VALID POINT, BUT I WAS SATISFIED WITH THAT STUDY.

BUT IF TO LOOK AT IT IN DEPTH, I THINK WE WE COULD DEFINITELY PASS THAT ON TO COUNSEL.

SO I'M MIKE DEMKO WITH WADE TRIM CONSULTANT ON THIS PROJECT, THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.

SO THE WE ENDED UP HIRING A THIRD PARTY SCHEDULER.

THE THE CONTRACTOR WAS HAVING TROUBLE DEVELOPING A SUFFICIENT SCHEDULE FOR OUR REVIEW THAT WE COULD WE COULD REALLY EVALUATE WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THEIR SCHEDULE. THEY WEREN'T MEETING THE SPECIFICATION REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE CITY HAD TO GO OUT AND ACTUALLY HIRE A A WELL, WE HIRED THE THIRD PARTY SCHEDULER TO, TO TO DO AN ACTUAL DETAILED EVALUATION OF THE CONTRACTOR'S SCHEDULE.

THEY HAVE BEEN CONTINUALLY MISSING DEADLINES.

THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE LABOR FORCE OUT.

THERE HAS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM.

THEY'VE HAD HAD TROUBLE GETTING IN THE PAST.

CONCRETE. NOW THAT WE'RE PRETTY WELL THROUGH THE CONCRETE PHASE, I THINK THINGS ARE PICKING UP A BIT.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS, A NUMBER OF ISSUES WITH, WITH THEM GETTING GETTING THEM, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAD CONVERSATIONS CONSIDERING GOING TO A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR AND TERMINATING THE CONTRACT, BUT THAT THE DECISION WAS MADE, LIKE, I GUESS AS A GROUP THAT WE WANTED TO BRING THEM ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

IT WAS THE QUICKEST WAY, THE MOST GOING TO BE MOST THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED AND AND THE MOST TIMELY WAY TO GET THIS PROJECT COMPLETED.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? SO THE FINDINGS WERE CONCRETE LABOR FORCE, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.

SOME SOME SOMEWHAT MANAGEMENT AS WELL.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION. SOME KIND OF MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SECOND.

GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

AYE. AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.

SIX SIX AS YOU WERE SIX SIX.

MR.. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, $128,000. FOR ANOTHER CONSULTANT.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HIRING.

WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY.

WITHIN MY OPINION, WE PAY A LOT OF MONEY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE WE CAN FIND, BUT WE'RE SURE SEEING BE PAYING A LOT OF MONEY FOR CONSULTANTS TO TELL US, TO TELL THE PEOPLE WE'RE PAYING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

I CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S THE REALITY, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT APPEARS, BECAUSE WE JUST COVERED WHERE WE HAD TO HIRE OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS.

THEY TOLD US WHAT WAS WRONG.

THEY DIDN'T. THEN WE HIRED ANOTHER OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO TELL US WHAT THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TOLD US WAS WRONG WITH THE FIRST ONE.

IT'S JUST IT'S IT'S GETTING A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE IN THAT ASPECT.

BUT THAT BEING SAID.

SO ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, THOUGH, WE'RE HIRING AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO TELL US WHAT TO DO FOR THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT ONE HELP ALL THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS, NOT JUST FOCUS AND HAVE THEM LOOK AND ALL THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THE ENTIRE CITY IS GETTING READY TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS WASTEWATER TREATMENT DILEMMA THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO FACE.

SO I'M JUST SAYING, DON'T JUST FOCUS IN ON TURKEY CREEK, BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE IN TURKEY CREEK THAT WERE HAD THE SERVICE AVAILABLE AND THEY DECLINED TO ACCEPT IT.

YET. THAT'S WHO WE'RE SUPPORTING.

THAT'S WHO WE'RE GIVING THE MONEY TO.

NOW, THE PEOPLE THAT HAD IT AVAILABLE TO HELP THEM OUT OF THEIR SITUATION.

I FEEL SORRY FOR THE NEXT NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR THAT LIVE IN TURKEY CREEK THAT SPENT THEIR MONEY TO HOOK UP TO THE CITY'S SEWER SYSTEM, AND THEIR NEIGHBOR DIDN'T.

NOW THE CITY IS GOING TO COME IN THERE AND AND PAY THEIR HOOKUP.

I FIND THAT WRONG APPROACH.

YOU'RE YOU'RE SLAPPING THE PERSON THAT FOLLOWS THE RULES AND REGULATIONS IN THE FACE.

WHEN YOU DO THAT, FIND A MECHANISM THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE ENTIRE AREA.

AND I'D SAY. LOOK AT ALL THE AFFECTED INDIVIDUALS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE SPECIFIC SITE.

OKAY, THAT'S THAT ON NUMBER SIX.

TRY AND GET THE FUNDING FOR EVERYONE.

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THAT IS THE GOAL.

AND WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.

RIGHT. AND WE HAVE.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I PASSES THREE ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MR. BATON. SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY EXPANSION $750,000. THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

I'M SORRY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, I APOLOGIZE.

THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY HAVE TO PAY A $9 MILLION BOND FOR THE CONSTRUCTING OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY TO BABCOCK.

THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER.

I KNOW IT SEEMS LIKE I'M REPEATING, BUT I CALLED THIS OUT YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AGO.

THEN THE UPGRADE TO THE INTERSECTION ON A COUNTY ROAD FOR $5.5 MILLION.

NOW THERE IS A $1 MILLION CHANGE ORDER.

WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON THAT ON THE FUNDS FOR THIS ZIP CODE? BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT OF THE TIFF, SHE ONLY HAD SO MUCH MONEY AVAILABLE.

WE'RE BUDGETING A $5.5 MILLION EXPENSE ON A COUNTY ROAD FOR SOME REASON.

TURNS INTO HOURS.

YET WE NOW HAVE OUT OF A $5 MILLION BUDGET, WE NOW HAVE A $1 MILLION CHANGE ORDER.

IT'S STARTING TO SEE THAT WE'RE EITHER NOT PLANNING RIGHT OR.

OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT WHEN WE'RE OVER RUNNING ON EVERYTHING BY 20%, THERE'S SOMETHING.

SOMETHING'S WRONG.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, BOTH THE ZINS HERITAGE PARKWAY ROADWAY, AS WELL AS THE INTERSECTION PROJECT ARE BEING COMPLETELY FUNDED USING TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE FUNDS. TIF FUNDS.

THE 32909 IMPACT FEE ACCOUNT HAS ABOUT $15 MILLION IN AVAILABLE FUNDS IN IT TODAY.

SO IT'S A IT'S ONE OF THE LARGER ACCOUNTS FOR US.

SO IT DOES HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES TO HANDLE THIS.

YOU KNOW, PROJECTS ARE VERY CHALLENGING.

IN THE CASE OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, ONE OF THE SIGNIFICANT DELAYS WAS ACTUALLY RELATED TO POWER LINES THAT NEEDED TO BE RELOCATED, MOVED BY FPL, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN AT&T COMPONENT.

AND AS YOU SAW IN THE AGENDA MEMO THAT ADDED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND THEREFORE COST TO THE PROJECT AS WELL.

FPL RAN INTO EASEMENT ISSUES WHEN THEY WERE DEALING WITH THE MOVEMENT.

SO THERE WERE THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THE ISSUES THAT CAUSED THESE PARTICULAR CHALLENGES.

THIS IS A DIFFICULT TIME TO DO PROJECTS.

THERE'S AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, EVEN WITH THE PROJECT WHEN IT STARTED, THE DELAYS IN GETTING COMPONENTS, EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, CONCRETE WE MENTIONED BEFORE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN THIS PARTICULAR ECONOMIC TIME.

SOME OF IT STARTED IN COVID AND HAS CONTINUED THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, THE DIFFICULTY GETTING CERTAIN COMPONENTS.

BUT IN THIS CASE, A LOT OF THIS DELAY WAS REALLY RELATED TO FIELD CONDITIONS THAT HAD TO BE DEALT WITH WITH FPL.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL, I NEED A MOTION.

SOME SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR.

FELIX. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR. BUT NOTHING TO ANSWER.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YEAH, IT'S JUST I'VE ALWAYS HAD I'VE ALWAYS SIMILAR TO MR. BATON. I'VE ALWAYS HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH HOW AND I'VE SEEN IT WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, WITH THE BUILDING OF THEIR POLICE BUILDING, HOW MANY CHANGE ORDERS THEY'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH. AND WHEN YOU ADD IT UP, YOU GO FROM BEING THE LOWEST BIDDER TO ONE OF THE HIGHEST BIDDERS.

SO I REALLY I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF AND THAT'S MAYBE A QUESTION FOR MR. BARBER, LIKE ARE THE ONES WITH THE HIGHER BIDDING, ARE THEY TAKING INTO FACT WHAT MAY COME AND THE ONES WITH THE LOWER BIDDING? NOT. OR BECAUSE THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I'M SEEING IT. WE'RE WE'RE SEEING IT MORE AND MORE.

SO I'M LIKE, ARE THEY JUST BE THE SIGN OF THE TIMES TOO? YEAH. IT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S A VALID CONCERN.

BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING IT IN OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

IT'S NOT JUST US.

SO WE'RE BRINGING UP MR. BARBER. OR ONLY IF YOU'RE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST PUT YOU ON BLAST, SIR, BUT IT'S JUST.

COME ON OVER. THE MORE I'M HEARING, MR. BATON, I'M I'M I'M I'M ALONG THE SAME WAVELENGTH, SIR.

SO HE'S A HE'S A FORMER MAJOR LEAGUER.

SO HE. OH, YEAH. HE'S USED TO BIG CROWDS.

SO. YES SIR.

HE'S HE'S HE'S. GOOD EVENING.

SO I MEAN THAT'S A VERY VALID POINT.

SO WE WE DEFINITELY LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE ORDERS.

AND ACTUALLY WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND PATTERNS THAT WHOEVER THE LOW BIDDER IS AND THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE ORDERS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF, AGAIN, PATTERN GOING ON THERE. AND TO BE HONEST, IT HASN'T BEEN RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S BEEN A YEAR SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND I'VE BEEN CHECKING INTO IT AND HONESTLY, CHANGE ORDERS HAPPEN AND FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

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SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON OUR RADAR, BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANYTHING YET.

AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT.

THAT PERSPECTIVE.

YEAH. THANK YOU SIR.

WELL, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WE ARE NOW ON COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, NUMBER 12.

YES, MAYOR. I'LL BE BRIEF.

IN THE CITY MANAGER ANSWERED MY QUESTION PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT I KNOW AT ONE OF THE SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES EVENTS THERE WAS TWO GENTLEMEN THAT HAD A THEY HAD A LEAN SERVICE, YOU KNOW.

YES, WE ALL THREE WERE THERE.

WE ALL THREE WERE THERE. YEP.

SO I YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO BID.

I KNOW THEY CAME INTO THE GAME KIND OF LATE, BUT SPEAKING OF MISS SHERMAN, IF YOU COULD KIND OF JUST INFORM COUNCIL WHAT YOU INFORMED ME ON, YOU KNOW, GOING EITHER WAY AND THE PROS AND CONS OF GOING EITHER WAY AS WELL.

NOW WITH, WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL OR NOT MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY. YES. SEPARATE FROM FORECLOSURE REGISTRY.

YES. JUST THE LEAN JUST JUST THE LEAN REGISTRY.

OKAY, A LEAN SEARCH. YEAH.

THANK YOU SIR. YES. SO SO WE DID, I GUESS THE COMPANY YOU ALL SAW NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE STAFF HAS LOOKED INTO THEM AS HAS REACHED OUT AND WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

BUT WHEN WE TOOK ON ORANGE DATA, WHEN WE STARTED THAT PROCESS A COUPLE YEARS OR SO AGO IT WAS TO REALLY DEAL WITH A CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUE, WE WERE TAKING A LOT OF TIME TO RESPOND TO LEAN SEARCHES.

IT TOOK A LOT OF STAFF TIME.

THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED BECAUSE YOU'RE GATHERING DATA FROM MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION.

PREVIOUSLY, NANCY BUNDT WAS ABLE TO FIND A SOLUTION USING A A PIGGYBACK CONTRACT, EXCUSE ME, FOR ORANGE DATA, WHICH ENABLED US TO BASICALLY PUT EVERYTHING INTO AN ONLINE SYSTEM.

VERY EASY TO USE FOR TITLE COMPANIES.

ANYBODY THAT NEEDS TO DO ONE OF THESE LEAN SEARCHES, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, A REGULAR TIME FRAME, THREE DAY TYPE OF TURNAROUND PROCESS, AND THERE'S AN EXPEDITED ONE.

YOU PAY A DIFFERENT FEE FOR IT.

THE COMPANY REALLY MANAGES THE WHOLE PROCESS.

THEY GET A PORTION OF THE THE COST, THE FEE TO DO THE JOB, AND WE GET REVENUE FROM IT.

IT'S ACTUALLY PRODUCED MORE REVENUE FOR US BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF PROCESS.

SO IT'S BEEN VERY GOOD FOR US.

WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THE, THE CONTRACT THAT WE USED TO GET THIS PARTICULAR ORANGE DATA SOFTWARE HAD EXPIRED.

AND SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT IT.

AND ULTIMATELY THERE'S MORE PROCUREMENT DETAILS INVOLVED, BUT IDENTIFY THAT IT COULD BE CONSIDERED A SOLE SOURCE BASED ON THE WAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS WORKS.

SO THE TIMING ON THIS IS IMPORTANT TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S POINT, BECAUSE WE WERE ASKING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD NOW AND AGREE TO A CONTRACT NOW WITH THIS CURRENT VENDOR, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'LL BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE WON'T HAVE A VENDOR, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO DOING IT MANUALLY.

AND IT WILL TAKE TIME AND DELAY OUR PROCESS AND OUR SERVICE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO OUR OUR REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER MOVING THIS FORWARD TONIGHT AND, AND EXTEND OUR AGREEMENT TO CREATE A NEW AGREEMENT, ALLOW US TO CONTINUE WITH ORANGE DATA. HOWEVER THE THE AGENDA MEMO CALLS FOR THIS TO BE A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT WITH ONE YEAR RENEWALS, TWO ONE YEAR RENEWALS.

IF YOU WANTED US TO LOOK AT DOING AN RFP IN THE FUTURE YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS, THIS NEW PRODUCT THAT YOU SAW AND MAYBE OTHERS, THEN WE WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, MAYBE APPROVING THIS FOR JUST A ONE YEAR CONTRACT TO GIVE US TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, IF THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE AMENABLE TO COUNCIL.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WELL, EITHER WAY, I NEED A MOTION.

ON ITEM NUMBER 12.

SO MOVED.

WE GOT TO START A DISCUSSION, THAT'S WHY.

YEAH. FOR DISCUSSION.

SO. SO THE ONLY REASON WHY I HAD.

I MADE A MOTION.

I'M OPEN TO HAVING, YOU KNOW, OUT FOR BID.

I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE US LONG TO, TO PUT SOMETHING OUT, BUT I JUST I REALLY PULLED IT JUST TO SEE WHAT YOUR GENTLEMAN'S PERSPECTIVE WAS ON IT AS WELL.

SO I KNEW WHERE I WAS STANDING, BUT I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER, SO I UNDERSTOOD BOTH SIDES.

BUT I KIND OF JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE MORE, YOU KNOW, SWAY ON WHERE, WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT.

SO, YEAH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, RIGHT.

BUT HERE, HERE'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT.

RIGHT. THE PERSPECTIVE OF ONE YEAR AND THEN ONE YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE GO INTO PROCUREMENT.

UNLESS I'M MISUNDERSTANDING.

WE WENT SEARCHING FOR ORANGE DATA.

IS THAT CORRECT? WAS THAT? WAS THAT WHAT I HEARD? THAT WE WERE LOOKING, WE HAD A NEED AND THEY CAME AND FULFILLED THAT NEED.

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IS THAT CORRECT? I'LL LET JOAN SPEAK TO THAT.

OKAY. YEAH.

MY MY RECOLLECTION WAS THAT NANCY BUNDT IDENTIFIED THE STAFF CAPACITY ISSUES THAT WE WERE BEHIND.

SHE SPOKE WITH COLLEAGUES AND FOUND THAT THERE WERE FOLKS THAT WERE USING LEAN SEARCH SERVICES.

I DON'T RECALL HOW SHE GOT INTRODUCED TO ORANGE DATA SPECIFICALLY, BUT SHE HAD THAT MEETING, AND THAT DISCUSSION IDENTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A PIGGYBACK AND WAS ABLE TO QUICKLY WORK WITH PROCUREMENT IN ORANGE DATA TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS AND OTHERS THAT ARE REQUESTING LEAN SEARCHES QUITE EXPEDITIOUSLY, I WOULD SAY.

YEAH. SO SO OUR REPUTATION IS, YOU KNOW, SOMEWHAT HERE.

RIGHT? I GET WHERE YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THE PIGGYBACK ASPECT OF IT IS THEY'VE GOT FOLKS THAT ARE THAT ARE DOING THIS THESE FOLKS ARE DOING IT AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

NOW. EITHER WAY, I'M GOOD.

IF YOU I WOULD PREFER YOU GUYS GO TWO YEARS SINCE WE SEARCH FOR THEM AND THIS WAS THEIR RESULT.

AND THEN LET'S GO BACK OUT TO A PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

IT'LL GIVE EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE AT THAT TIME AGAIN.

BUT MAYBE HAVE OTHER COMPETING INDIVIDUALS BUILD UP THEIR RESUME, SO TO SPEAK.

THE PIGGYBACK ASPECT TO ME IS IT WARRANTS US BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY'RE DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK ALREADY, RIGHT? THAT THAT'S THE AREA CONCERN.

SO BUT EITHER WAY, I'M GOOD.

I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT PERSPECTIVE WITH YOU GUYS.

IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE WORKING.

YES. IF YOU'D LIKE, I COULD ALSO HAVE OUR PROCUREMENT CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER COME UP AND JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THIS AS A SOLE SOURCE.

SO MAYBE GEORGE WANTS TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE.

SURE. SO I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT.

SO FOR THIS ONE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY IT'S OR I SHOULD SAY TONIGHT WE ACTUALLY DID AN INTENT TO SOLE SOURCE.

SO THAT'S OUR WAY OF COMPETITIVELY BIDDING IT OUT WITHOUT BECAUSE IT'S SO SPECIFIED.

NOT MANY PEOPLE CAN OFFER IT.

SO WHAT THE INTENT TO SOLE SOURCE, IT SAYS, HEY, IF YOU CAN OFFER THIS SERVICE, GIVE US A NOTICE.

IF SOMEONE SAYS YES, THEN WE'LL PUT IT OUT TO BID.

SO WE HAVE THIS OUT FOR THREE WEEKS AND NO ONE CAME BACK AND SAID THAT THEY CAN OFFER THE SERVICE.

WE HAD IT ON VENDORLINK, WHICH IS OUR SOLICITATION MECHANISM.

WE ALSO HAD IT ON THE WEBSITE AND WE'VE GOT NO RESPONSES.

SO AS FAR AS IN THE ASPECT OF BEING COMPETITIVE, WE DID PUT IT OUT AND I JUST WANT TO NOTATE THAT.

WELL, RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT A MOTION, MAYOR, IF I MAY INTERJECT MY QUESTION WOULD BE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON IF YOU HAD CONVERSATION, I DID HAVE CONVERSATION WITH MISS SHERMAN IN THAT REGARD WHEN I MET THIS GENTLEMAN AS WELL.

I KNOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY HAVING CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE, SO I SHARE THAT INFORMATION.

I DON'T KNOW AT WHAT POINT FOLLOW UP WAS DONE.

BUT NEVERTHELESS I DO AGREE.

TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU. COUNCILWOMAN JOHNSON.

MY UNDERSTANDING IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCY.

THESE GUYS, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR PRODUCT OR SERVICE, THEY YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A MATTER OF HOURS.

TURN AROUND. NOW, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT COULD BE A SALES PITCH, I DON'T KNOW.

BUT WHAT I WOULD BE INTERESTED ON, SHOULD WE NOT APPROVE THIS? WE SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT OUT FOR BID.

WHAT IS THE TIME, THE TURNAROUND FOR.

YOU KNOW. TO TO BE ABLE TO GET TO GET THIS THE SERVICE BACK.

BACK UP. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON HOW WE DECIDE TO SOLICIT.

WE CAN DO IT AS AN IFB, WHICH IS REALLY COST BASED.

WE CAN DO IT AS AN RFP, WHICH IS MORE QUALITATIVE, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE 3 TO 6 MONTHS.

I WON'T SAY SIX, BUT ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

WELL, MY UNDERSTANDING THEY THIS SERVICE DOESN'T COST THE CITY ANYTHING.

WE IT MAKES US MONEY.

SO IT'S NOT IT IS REVENUE BASED.

CORRECT. BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, SOLICIT IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE SOME GUIDELINES IN ORDER TO AWARD IT.

SO AGAIN, BASED ON HOW WE DECIDE TO SOLICIT IT, WOULD IT WOULD ONLY ACTUALLY THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

IT WOULD BE AN RFP. SO IT WOULD TAKE THREE MONTHS AT LEAST.

ARE YOU GUYS GOOD WITH? DOING TWO.

TWO YEARS. I KNOW THE CONTRACTS CALLING FOR THREE AND THEN ONE YEAR INSTALLMENTS.

LIKE, SHOULD WE APPROVE IT TONIGHT? I'D SAY WE GO DOWN THE YEAR.

WOULD YOU AGREE? I WAS THINKING ONE, SIR.

AND THEN JUST SEE FROM THERE.

THAT WAY WE HAVE SOMEBODY LOCKED IN.

THE SERVICES AREN'T HINDERED AT ALL.

DON'T MISS ANY. ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH MAKING IT ON ONE YEAR OR SO?

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HERE, HERE'S WHERE I'M AT.

YES, SIR. IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT ONE YEAR.

RIGHT, THEN PERHAPS WE MAKE IT.

WHEN YOU SAY RFP THAT AT LEAST THE BARE MINIMUM OF WHAT? ORANGE DATA.

MULTI CONNECT THAT PLATFORM.

THAT REVENUE SOURCE IS PART OF THAT RFP.

ANY ANY OTHER COMPANY THAT WANTS TO COME IN CAN PROVIDE HIGHER SERVICES, BUT AT LEAST THAT BARE MINIMUM THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THEM THAT THAT WOULD BE THE THE PLAN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN PLACE.

SO THEN I WOULD BE GOOD WITH A YEAR.

AND THEN SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FOR A YEAR.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO READDRESS THE MOTION.

SO I'LL NEED YOU TO PULL YOUR SECOND.

WELL, OKAY, I WAIT, WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT.

ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS? BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR EXPERTISE, SO I ALSO WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WELL.

ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH MAKING IT ONE YEAR AS OPPOSED TO THREE YEARS, OR IS THAT SOME SOMETHING DOABLE SINCE THE SERVICES WILL STILL CONTINUE? YEAH, OKAY. THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD JUST ADD IS THAT WHEN WE DID THE INTENT OF SOLE SOURCE AND WE DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSES, THAT'S NORMALLY INDICATIVE THAT NO ONE ELSE CAN OFFER IT.

SO I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT CONSIDERATION IS, IS THAT I'M NOT TOO FAMILIAR WITH ALL IT DOES.

BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN WE PUT OUT A SOLE SOURCE, IF SOMEONE BELIEVES THEY CAN REMOTELY OFFER IT, THEY'LL RESPOND.

AND WE GOT NO RESPONSES.

OKAY, MAYOR.

SO YES, I BELIEVE OUR IT DIRECTOR WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

MR. ROBINSON, PLEASE.

GOOD EVENING, I.T. DIRECTOR BRIAN ROBINSON.

SO THERE IS AN ELEMENT THAT WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER IS THE FACT THAT THE CURRENT ERP SOLUTION THAT WE HAVE, WHATEVER THE VENDOR IS, THEY'LL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE VERSED ON THE APPLICATION WE USE.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY A TWO YEAR PROCESS TO CHANGE OUR CURRENT FINANCIAL SYSTEM.

SO WHOEVER WE SELECT WILL HAVE TO KNOW THAT SYSTEM VERY WELL TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICE LEVELS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO THERE'S SOMETHING SIGNIFICANTLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.

SO I WOULD JUST ADVISE THE COUNCIL THAT PERHAPS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT TWO YEARS, THAT MIGHT BE MORE OF A FEASIBLE OPTION JUST BECAUSE OF THE LEARNING CURVE. IF YOU HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER VENDOR ON TO HANDLE THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT.

SO JUST AN ADVICE, OKAY.

SO IT'S INTERCHANGEABLES WHAT HE'S SAYING.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH. NO. YEAH YEAH. NO I YEAH.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE THINKING OF, YOU KNOW, GIVING MANY PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY, BUT LIKE LIKE MISTER BARBER SAID, THEY PUT THIS OUT THERE AND IF AND PART OF THAT WAS FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE OUR SOFTWARE.

RIGHT. AND SO PERHAPS WE'RE TO BE SAFE.

I THINK WE JUST LEAVE IT AS IS OR AND THEN JUST PUT IT OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.

SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

SO. BRIAN SEEING AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THREE YEARS AND THEN ONE YEAR INCREMENTS.

SO THE MOTION I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE WAY IT IS.

AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY.

COUNCILMAN FELIX.

SO WHERE ARE WE, GENTLEMEN? WHAT ARE WE, SIR? I'M GOOD WITH TWO YEARS.

IF THAT'S SO.

SO I'M GOING TO REMOVE THIS RIGHT HERE.

I'M GOING TO REMOVE THE SECOND.

RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE IT.

I'M REMOVING. OKAY.

I JUST DID SO AND I'M IN MY MOTION.

WELL YOUR MOTION DIES.

OH AND SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO READDRESS AND GIVE ME A MOTION OKAY.

THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION WITH THE REVISION OF FROM THREE YEARS TO TWO YEARS FOR THE EXPIRATION DATE.

FOR SOLE SOURCE. SOLE SOURCE.

SOLE SOURCE.

OKAY, I NEED A SECOND.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 14.

DEPUTY MAYOR. I GUESS, MR. BILL. I MEAN, BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THE OPTICS OF THIS ITEM PRESENT A CLOUDY OR A SHADY VIEW OF THIS DEAL.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO COVER SOMETHING UP, AND THAT'S WHAT I.

THAT'S THE WAY THE OPTICS OF THIS APPEARS.

WE HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL TRYING TO BUY 2.3 ACRES OF LAND FOR $100,000.

THE CITY'S APPRAISERS APPRAISE THE PROPERTY AT $206,000.

YET THE THE PROPERTY APPRAISER VALUES THE MARKET VALUE AT

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$460,000. SO THERE'S WHERE THE OPTICS WERE SOMETHING TO ME THAT SAYS IT'S WORTH $460,000, BUT THE CITY IS WILLING TO SELL IT TO AN INDIVIDUAL FOR $100,000.

THAT'S FOR 2.3 ACRES OF LAND.

YET THE AVERAGE LOT IN PALM BAY IS CURRENTLY GOING FOR $45,000.

THAT'S FOR A QUARTER ACRE LOT, RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I SAY IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT SHADY.

RIGHT. AND THEN YOU ADD THAT YOU ADD THE QUESTIONABLE CLEAR TITLE THAT WAS IN THE PACKET.

THEY AREN'T SURE ABOUT THE TITLE OF IT.

SO WE'RE SELLING GIVEN BUDDY JOE OVER HERE UNDER THE GOOD OLD BOY PROGRAM.

AND I'LL REFER THAT TO THE BOOK THE GOOD OLD, THE GOOD OLD BOYS PROGRAM IN THE CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY, WHERE YOUR BUDDY GETS IT FOR $100,000, YET IT'S VALUED AT $460,000.

RIGHT. AND EVEN YOUR STAFF DIDN'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

YOUR STAFF ONLY RECOMMENDS CONSIDERATION.

NOW, HERE'S WHERE IT UPSETS BILL BARTON, BECAUSE IT WAS ONLY IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED WITHOUT ME PULLING THIS, IT WOULD HAVE AUTOMATICALLY BEEN APPROVED THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR $100,000 OF 2.3 ACRES OF LAND.

RIGHT. I JUST FIND THAT THE FACT THAT IT WAS CONSENT AGENDA AUTOMATICALLY APPROVES FOR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS.

THAT'S WHY I SAY THE OPTICS.

THE OPTICS, ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, BUT THE OPTICS ALONE MAKES IT A SHADY DEAL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO, TO MR. BATTEN'S QUESTION ABOUT WHY I WAS ON CONSENT, THIS IS AN ITEM THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED QUITE AT LENGTH WITH COUNCIL, AND THE PERSPECTIVE STAFF TOOK WAS NOT TO TRY TO FAIL TO DISCLOSE SOMETHING, BUT RATHER IF COUNCIL WAS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE DEAL AS IT WAS PRESENTED THAT THEY COULD PULL IT OFF AS YOU DID.

SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING COUPLE OF SLIVERS OF LAND THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

I'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

WE WENT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS WE GO THROUGH WHEN WE RECEIVE AN UNSOLICITED OFFER, WHICH WE DID FOR MR. TIMMONS. WE ADVERTISED OUT THE PROPERTY, WE GOT A BROKER'S PRICE OPINION.

WE DID ALL THE THINGS WE NORMALLY DO.

WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE OFFER ON THE PROPERTY.

IT WAS NOT LISTED, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY FOR SALE.

AND WE CAME TO YOU ALL AND ASKED IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT SURPLUS.

AND THAT'S HOW IT BECAME ELIGIBLE FOR THIS PROCESS.

THE, THE BUYER IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY.

AND IN FACT, THESE THINGS ARE COVERED IN THE THE OFFER, THE CONTRACT.

AND THOSE THINGS INCLUDE THE FACT THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY CONCERNS WE'VE EXPRESSED ABOUT DEED RESTRICTIONS.

AND SO PART OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE THE SALES CONTRACT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THE BUYER IS AT HIS OWN RISK CONSIDERING THIS PURCHASE.

ALSO THERE'S EXISTING LIFT STATION AND BAFFLE BOX ON THIS SITE.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE REQUESTED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THOSE REMAIN IN PLACE.

WE GET OUR OUR EASEMENT FOR THOSE PROPERTIES, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THERE.

AND SO THAT IS INCLUDED.

AND THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE TWO MOST SIGNIFICANT DEAL POINTS BEYOND THAT.

IT'S IT'S REALLY IT'S A COUNCIL DECISION IN TERMS OF THE SALE PRICE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE EXPLAINED TO YOU WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES.

BROKER PRICE OPINION OUR COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AND SO WE'LL TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL, HOWEVER YOU LIKE TO PROCEED.

OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'M GOOD, SIR. I WAS JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT.

MR. HOWARD. MR. TIMMONS ARE BOTH HERE.

OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO CALL UP DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOT WELL, NO, SIR.

NO. OKAY, SO MY MY MY AREAS OF CONCERN, RIGHT.

YOU MENTIONED MADAM SHERMAN.

YOU MENTIONED THAT THE BUYERS ARE AWARE OF OF THE ISSUES WITH THE DEED.

AND THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS MET WITH THE BUYER AND THE, THE, THE CONTENTION OR WHAT'S IN QUESTION? THE, THE THE QUESTION WITH THE DEED IS BREVARD COUNTY.

RIGHT. IT IS OUR POSITION THAT IT IS BREVARD COUNTY.

THERE IS A REVERTER CLAUSE THAT SAYS IF IT'S NOT PUBLIC USE FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE, IT REVERTS TO BREVARD COUNTY.

MR. TIMMONS, YOU KNOW, HAD SOMEONE ELSE LOOK AT IT.

HE HAD AN OPINION, AND HE BELIEVES IT'S THE CITY AND A STATE AGENCY THAT HE COULD GET THE STATE AGENCY TO SIGN OFF ON IT.

THAT IS NOT BEEN OUR OPINION.

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I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVEY TITLE.

ANY ATTEMPT TO CONVEY TITLE WILL REVERT THIS BACK TO THE COUNTY.

AND WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT, WHICH HE'S WELL AWARE, IT WAS LIKE, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A WARRANTY DEED, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE ON THIS CONTRACT, SO FORTH, THAT PROVISION BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY HAS A WARRANTY DEED, WE CAN'T WARRANT ANYTHING BECAUSE WHICH IS ALSO THE LETTER THAT'S HERE THAT PROVIDES THE OPINION.

WE PROVIDED IT TO MR. TIMMONS. I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYTHING TO GIVE THEM.

SO WE WOULD BE WELL ADVISED.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO FORTH WITH THIS.

DEFINITELY NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A WARRANTY DEED.

IF ANYTHING WE COULD DO WOULD BE A QUITCLAIM DEED, BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE THE LEGAL ABILITY TO CONVEY ANYTHING TO HIM.

ANY ATTEMPT TO CONVEY ANYTHING WILL LIKELY MEAN THAT THE WHATEVER INTEREST IT IS WILL GO AWAY, AND THAT THAT IS PART OF THE CONTRACT.

IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, THE WARRANTY DEED IS ONE THING.

THAT'S THAT WE COULD ONLY DO A QUITCLAIM DEED, BUT THERE ARE LATE TERMS IN HERE THAT TELLS THEM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE EASEMENTS, THE SELLER EXPENSES.

WE'VE GOT THE HE PROVIDED US HIS OWN TITLE OPINION.

SO AND WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH HIM.

SO HE IS WELL AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THAT PROPERTY THAT ARE THAT WHERE THE CITY CAN JUST CONVEY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THAT WAS IT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF, GENTLEMEN? YES.

APOLOGIZE. I WAS OUTSIDE, SO I WAS A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER.

AND JUST LOOKING AT THE PACKET THAT THAT YOU RECEIVED ON THIS, AND I ACTUALLY COMPLETELY AGREE WITH MR. BATTEN. I WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE CONCERNS IF I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROPERTY.

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, THE THERE'S NOT AN APPRAISAL ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE WAS NEVER AN APPRAISAL DONE.

THE PROPERTY IS NOT TWO POINT.

ONE TWO ACRES, 2.3 ACRES.

IT'S JUST SHY OF 1.4 ACRES.

THE IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY APPRAISALS SITE, THAT PROPERTY WAS DIVIDED SOMETIME IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.

TO SEPARATE OUT THESE LOOK TO SEPARATE OUT THE THE CHAMBER BUILDING.

SO IF YOU WOULD HAVE LOOKED AT THIS PARCEL TWO YEARS AGO, WHICH I DID AND, AND TRIED TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY FOR WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, IT SAID ALL THREE PROPERTIES AT SOME POINT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, THE ALMOST THREE QUARTER OF ACRE PROPERTY THAT THE CHAMBER SITS ON WAS SEPARATED OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHO OR WHY OR HOW, BUT WHAT DIDN'T HAPPEN IS THE AMOUNT OF ACREAGE DIDN'T CHANGE.

SO IT'S NOT TWO ACRES, IT'S NOT ONE AND A HALF ACRES.

AND THE ACREAGE IS ACTUALLY IS THERE.

I WOULD.

I OWN THE HOMES ON FROM PALM BAY ROAD.

MAJORITY OF THE HOMES THERE, I HAVE DEEDS THAT GO ACROSS THAT PROPERTY AND ON THE OTHER SIDE THEY HAVE RIPARIAN RIGHTS.

I BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF MISS SHERMAN AND MISS SMITH OF LETTERS DATING BACK 50, 60 YEARS, WONDERING WHY THE PROPERTY WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN TO THE CITY WHEN IT WAS ABANDONED FROM STATE ROAD FOUR, AND NOT BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

SO IT REALLY IS UNDESIRABLE PROPERTY THAT NOBODY CAN BUILD ON.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIFT STATION AS AN EXAMPLE, MY PROPERTY AT 1506 WATER DRIVE IS THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY ACROSS WATER DRIVE.

YOU COULDN'T EVEN GET INTO THE LIFT STATION WITHOUT GOING ONTO THE PROPERTY.

AND SO WHEN MISS SHERMAN AND I TALKED, I HAVE NO ISSUE GIVING EASEMENTS.

I THINK THE COUNCIL KNOWS WHAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE AREA IN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND ACROSS THE INTO THE WATERFRONT.

AND SO IT'S NOT THE AMOUNT OF PROPERTY OR THE APPRAISERS.

AND IT WAS A BROKER'S OPINION BASED ON TWO PLUS ACRES, NOT ACTUAL ACREAGE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO TO TO ADD, EXCEPT I TO ME, IT MAKES SENSE IF THERE'S ONE SOMEBODY TO OWN THIS PROPERTY AS MR. TIMMINS.

JUST JUST THE FACT THE THE THE FACT WHERE THE PROPERTY IS, IT'S REALLY NO USE TO ANYONE ELSE BECAUSE MR. TIMMINS OWNS ACROSS THE STREET.

SO IT'S REALLY NO USE TO US ON WHATSOEVER.

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AND THAT PART OF WHY WE, WE DEEMED IT SURPLUS.

SO I'M OKAY WITH SUPPORTING.

SUPPORTING THIS OFFER.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL. ALL.

WAIT. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE.

SO WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 17.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS ONE'S A REAL QUICK QUESTION.

CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY A DEVELOPER LET ME READ IT HERE.

CONSIDERATION OF AN IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT.

SO CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT IS $5 MILLION.

THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY $4 MILLION.

WHY? THEY GET A FOUR.

WHY THEY GET A $1 MILLION CREDIT.

THAT IT WAS JUST A SIMPLE QUESTION.

I JUST DIDN'T LIKE SEEING ANYTHING THAT WAS ON A CREDIT WHERE DEVELOPER IS GETTING CREDIT WITH THE CITY, ESPECIALLY A $1 MILLION CREDIT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN.

YEAH. JUST TO CLARIFY, THERE'S PERHAPS THE NOMENCLATURE WAS CONFUSING, BUT BASICALLY THE DEVELOPER, IF THEY HAD NO AGREEMENT WITH US, WOULD PAY $5.4 MILLION IN IMPACT FEES.

JUST OUTRIGHT NORMAL, NORMAL PAYMENT PROCESS.

THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT DICTATES THAT A PORTION OF THAT 5.4, THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO PAY, TOTALING $4.19 MILLION, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY IT AS PART OF A PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT, WHICH ESSENTIALLY MEANS PORTIONS OF THEIR IMPACT FEE ARE TIED TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS, SPECIFIC IMPROVEMENTS.

THEY'RE STILL GOING TO PAY THEM.

IN FACT, THE THIS TYPE OF AGREEMENT MEANS THEY PAY THEM SOONER IN THE PROCESS, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY.

THEY STILL HAVE TO.

THEN THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE FULL AMOUNT THEY HAVE TO PAY AND WHAT'S IN THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT.

THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY ALL THOSE IMPACT FEES.

IT'S JUST ABOUT THE TIMING OF WHEN THEY PAY THEM.

THERE'S NO CREDITS. THANK YOU.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ABOUT. GILBERTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I. I.

PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM 19.

I UNDERSTAND THE NEED, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAS TO HAS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, HOWEVER, I DON'T SEE THE TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT THE EMPLOYEE INCREASE.

CURRENTLY, OUR CITY BUDGET WOULD RUN.

WAS IT 70% GOES OUT TO EMPLOYEE PAYMENT YET? WE'RE GETTING READY TO INCREASE.

WHAT WAS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES? 17 NEW, 17 NEW POSITIONS THAT WERE INCREASING BY THE STAFF THAT WERE INCREASING ON OUR EMPLOYEES? I DON'T SEE OUR TAX REVENUE AS I'M LOOKING AT IT, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT AMOUNT OF GROWTH.

AND WE'RE YOU JUST HAD THAT SAME DISCUSSION WHEN YOU DID THE THE POLICE AND FIRE CONTRACT SAYING, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR THEM YET NOW WE'RE JUST INCREASING ANOTHER 17 EMPLOYEES COMING INTO THE CITY.

RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO WE MIGHT HAVE A WE MIGHT BE IN THE BLACK THIS YEAR, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY WHERE WE RAN SHORT AND WE HAD TO LAY OFF PEOPLE.

I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT AGAIN.

I'M NOT TALKING FROM NON EXPERIENCE.

I LIVED THROUGH IT AND SAW WHAT IT DID AND WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

MORALE. THAT WAS LOW MORALE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WHEN YOU START HAVING TO FIRE EMPLOYEES JUST TO MAKE ROLL, TO MAKE THE BUDGET THAT WEEK, THAT'S REALLY A MORALE KILLER, RIGHT? THAT IMPACTED BOTH THE POLICE, THE FIRE AND EVERY OTHER EMPLOYEE WITHIN THE CITY.

THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

QUESTION NUMBER TWO.

WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, I THOUGHT THAT THE DRIVEWAY PIPES IN FRONT OF RESIDENTS, THAT WAS THE HOMEOWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY, WHICH I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, IT SAYS, WELL, THEY'RE COLLAPSING.

THEY'RE GETTING PLUGGED UP.

I THOUGHT THAT THE COLLAPSING PIPE WAS THE HOMEOWNERS RESPONSIBILITIES, NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN.

I KNOW WHEN I INSTALLED MINE, I HAD TO PUT IT IN AND PAY FOR IT, AND IF IT COLLAPSES, I THOUGHT I WAS UNDER THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT.

BUT ACCORDING TO THE PACKET, CITY'S LOOKING AT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SOLVE THIS DILEMMA? WELL, I PROMISE YOU, IF SOMEBODY GETS THEIRS FOR FREE AND I HAVE TO PAY FOR MINE, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A SQUEAKY WHEEL RIGHT HERE.

OKAY, THAT BEING SAID, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.

I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING NEW CULVERT PIPES IN FOR EVERY RESIDENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO FIRST OF ALL, THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS IS A STORMWATER FUND.

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IT IS NOT GENERAL FUND, AD VALOREM TAX REVENUES.

STAFF DID AN ANALYSIS OF THE CURRENT REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES, AND WE CAN SUSTAIN THE ADDITION OF THESE POSITIONS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY TO BETTER MAINTAIN OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM.

I'M JUST CHECKING THE MEMO.

I DON'T RECALL SEEING ANYTHING.

AND I WAS LOOKING AGAIN REGARDING YOUR COMMENT ABOUT DRIVEWAY PIPES AND THE CITY DOING ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO THEM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INSPECTORS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT DEDICATED TO LOOKING AT CONDITIONS IN THE FIELD THAT INCLUDES INDIVIDUALS DRIVEWAY PIPES.

BUT THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE FUNDING OR ANY ALLOCATION OF FUNDING TO FIX INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAY PIPES OF HOMEOWNERS.

SO THIS IS ABOUT ADDING STAFF AND THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARY TO DO A BETTER JOB MAINTAINING OUR CITY STORMWATER SYSTEM.

THANK YOU. MA'AM, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YES, SIR. YEAH.

BECAUSE THERE HE MAKES ANOTHER VALID POINT IN REGARDS TO FUTURE FUNDING.

ARE WE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE WITH USING UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE FOR FUTURE YEARS OR.

NO, SIR, WE WOULDN'T DO THAT.

THE MATH WE LOOKED AT WAS WE HAD ENOUGH FUND BALANCE TODAY.

UN DESIGNATED TO HANDLE THE BIG EQUIPMENT, PUSH AND PAY FOR ALL THAT OVER THE SUMMER.

PLUS, YOU KNOW, THE PARTIAL COST OF THE SALARIES, THE ONE PLUS MILLION DOLLARS IN REOCCURRING PERSONNEL COSTS.

AND THERE'S SOME OPERATING COSTS.

THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE SUSTAINED WITHIN THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS IN THE STORM WATER FUND.

SO THE REVENUES ARE SUFFICIENT TO MEET THAT NEED.

OKAY. AND I RECALL MR. PEREZ KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT BE CHEAPER FOR US TO JUST OUTSOURCE IT AND EVERYTHING, BUT I YOU WERE CORRECT.

IT'S BETTER IF YOU JUST HANDLE IT WITHIN.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GETTING THE HEAD NOD. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOOD.

DEPUTY MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD EXCEPT I WELCOME THIS THIS THIS ITEM.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF WE RECALL, NOT TOO FAR BACK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO WHERE WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE LOG.

WELL, NOT ONLY THE FLOODING THIS OR THAT, WE WE HAD TO HEAR FROM MISS MR. BATTEN ABOUT OUR, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE NOT DOING ENOUGH? SO I SUPPORTED THIS WHOLEHEARTEDLY, NOT ONLY KEEPING IT IN-HOUSE AND ALL THE ADDITIONAL MEASURE.

WE BRING NEW EQUIPMENT.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO HAVE YOU KNOW, THE LABOR FORCE TO OPERATE THEM.

SO I WELCOME THIS THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PROCUREMENTS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[PROCUREMENTS:]

MADAM CHAIRMAN. YES.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS A REQUEST TO FURTHER OUR ESTABLISHMENT OF HAVING CERTIFIED PARAMEDICS ON THE IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEND.

IF APPROVED, SEND SOME OF OUR STAFF TO ATTEND.

ONE OF THE PROGRAMS IS AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE.

THE OTHER ONE IS LIKE A PRIVATE INSTITUTE THAT PUTS ON THIS KIND OF TRAINING, BOTH TRAININGS.

TAKE A NUMBER OF MONTHS.

SO IT'LL BE PARTIALLY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, PARTIALLY IN NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

SO THIS IS ABOUT THE FUNDING TO DO THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCUREMENT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND THE OTHER PART WILL BE BUDGETED NEXT YEAR.

ESSENTIALLY, IT'S A $91,500 ALLOCATION REQUEST FROM UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO PUT THAT IN MOTION, TO SEND THESE EMPLOYEES TO THIS, THESE PROGRAMS. ALSO, IT IS A REQUEST TO ISSUE A, A PURCHASE ORDER TO EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE AND ALSO TO AWARD THE BID TO THE PARAMEDIC EDUCATION SERVICES EMEZI INSTITUTE FOR THE OTHER PORTION, BECAUSE WE'RE SENDING THEM TO TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

AND WHEN ALL IS DONE NEXT YEAR WE WOULD HAVE SENT 29 EMPLOYEES THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? YES. I KNOW WITH FIT, WE HAD THE, YOU KNOW, WE GET THE DISCOUNT BECAUSE THE PARTNERSHIP DID EASTERN FLORIDA AND FLORIDA.

YEAH. WELL, I'M SAYING IN REGARDS TO, LIKE, THE MASTER'S PROGRAM FOR EASTERN FLORIDA, DO THEY PROVIDE ANY DISCOUNTS OR ANY.

I'M LOOKING AT THE STAFF IN THE BACK.

YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THAT, SIR? RICHARD STOVER FIRE RESCUE.

NO, THEY DO NOT PROVIDE A DISCOUNT.

THIS IS THE STANDARD PRICE FORM COLLEGE.

EASTERN FLORIDA IS THE STANDARD REGULAR PRICE.

WE ALREADY HAVE SOME FUNDING THERE FOR SEVEN THIS YEAR.

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WE'VE HAD ADDITIONAL PEOPLE EXPRESS INTEREST SINCE THE BONUS ARE THE PARAMEDIC INCENTIVE OF 12.5.

THAT'S CAUSED A LOT OF PEOPLE TO BE INTERESTED IN GOING FURTHER IN THEIR CAREER.

SO THAT COVERS THAT PART.

AND THIS ADDS TO THAT.

SEVEN. AND THE OTHER IS A IT'S.

IT'S DESIGNED DIFFERENT.

IT'S THE SAME CLASS AS YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE SAME CERTIFICATION, THE SAME TRAINING, BUT IT'S DESIGNED TO BE A MORE FAST PACED AND SELF.

TAUGHT. YOU HAVE A LOT OF ONLINE STUFF AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES FOR TWO DIFFERENT LEARNERS AND THE PRICES ARE WHAT THEY ARE.

THEY DON'T OFFER DISCOUNTS OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU OKAY.

YOU GOOD WITH THAT? CAN'T THAT BE ME? AND NO SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

I. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

NEW BUSINESS.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

MR.. I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO A SITUATION AT 1881 PALM BAY ROAD.

IT IS FORMERLY THE CRYSTAL PALACE.

UNDER CONTROL BY A GROUP MERIDIAN AS PART OF THE NAME, I BELIEVE.

BUT ESSENTIALLY, THEY HAVE HAD FOR A YEAR A REPAIR AGREEMENT THAT IS GOING TO EXPIRE JUNE 21ST, 2024.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY HAS FALLEN INTO.

THEY STILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE UNTIL JUNE 21ST, 2024 TO COMPLETE THE THE STIPULATIONS IN THE AGREEMENT.

I BELIEVE STAFF HAS A MEETING THAT'S COMING UP WITH HIM HERE WITHIN A WEEK OR SO TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT.

AND, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE CONCERN IS REALLY ABOUT THE UNSAFE CONDITION THE STRUCTURE HAS FALLEN INTO.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I BELIEVE IN THE THE AGREEMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, WINDOWS NEEDED TO BE BOARDED UP CONSISTENTLY.

RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN WINDOWS, WHICH IS LEADING TO VAGRANCY AND CONCERNS WITHIN THE THE PROPERTY.

BUT I JUST TO VERY HIGH LEVEL GO THROUGH IT.

STAFF MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WERE IN A POSITION TO TAKE ACTION SHOULD WE NEED TO IF THEY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE REPAIR AGREEMENT.

AND SO THE REAL REQUEST HERE IS TO SEE IF COUNCIL IS WILLING TO GIVE THE CITY AUTHORIZATION TO DEEM THE PROPERTY A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND AUTHORIZE US TO BRING THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE UPON EXPIRATION OF THE REPAIR AGREEMENT ON JUNE 21ST, 2024, IF THEY ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.

AND THERE'S MORE TO IT.

SO IF YOU'D LIKE ANY STAFF TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR PROVIDE OTHER DETAILS, LET US KNOW.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SO I'M GOOD.

MOVING. YEAH, YEAH. I'M GOOD MOVING FORWARD, I JUST I GOT THE CALL FROM A WILLIAM FROM MONTY THAT SAID HE REPRESENTED THEM.

I KNOW USUALLY WE DEALT WITH NURI.

BUT. SO I JUST WAS BRINGING THAT.

YEAH, I WAS JUST BRINGING THAT TO COUNCIL AND STAFF.

SO THEY HE MADE IT SEEM AS IF THEY'RE READY TO DEMO THE AREA AND THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH ALL THIS, SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD.

I JUST. OKAY, IF IF SOMEBODY NEEDS THIS CONTACT HE GOT AHOLD OF MY NUMBER.

SO, SO SO THIS DEMO IS THEY'RE JUST DEMOING THE WHOLE THE WHOLE I DIDN'T I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN.

IT'S NOT MY UNDERSTANDING THEY CAME TO US.

OKAY, I KNOW STAFF DOES HAVE A MEETING COMING UP WITH THEM.

I DID GET AN UPDATE THIS THAT WAS EMAILED TO ME WHILE WE WERE HAVING THE MEETING HERE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO DO A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.

THAT'S WHAT'S SCHEDULED ON JUNE 4TH.

YEAH. SO THAT'S WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THAT'S THEIR FIRST STEP, THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.

SO THAT'LL TELL US WHAT THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING.

AND THEN YOU KNOW THEY GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY THAT WILL LEAD THEM TO BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.

BUT THEY'RE JUST THEY'RE AT THE BEGINNING STAGES OF THAT IF THEY'RE MEETING ON JUNE 4TH.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE.

I'M TRACKING THAT JUST JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE A VISUAL OF DEMO, IT'S LIKE AN IMPLOSION, YOU KNOW, C4, THAT THAT KIND OF THING.

THIS IS THIS IS NOT THAT.

RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

I NEED A SECOND, THOUGH.

ALL RIGHT. A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

OKAY. SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX GOT.

THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU SAID. WELL, WHAT IS THE DATE FOR THEM TO JUNE 1ST? JUNE 21ST.

OKAY. I MEAN, MY OBSERVATION AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY STAFF REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY NOT BEING IN, IN IN COMPLIANCE IN TERMS OF REALLY, THEY WEREN'T TAKING CARE OF IT FOR A WHILE.

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THE MORE OF THE EXTERIOR YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY PAY ATTENTION.

I'VE SEEN SOME PLYWOOD IN MANY SPOTS.

WHAT I CAN TELL YOU BACK IN DECEMBER, DECEMBER, NOVEMBER, THE END OF THE THE YEAR THE PROPERTY WAS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY HARD TO LOOK AT AS YOU DRIVE BY.

AND, AND I DO FREQUENTLY DRIVE BY YOU KNOW.

AT LEAST DAILY. IF NOT, IF NOT MORE.

I'VE SEEN AN IMPROVEMENT IN TERMS OF THEM CLEANING THE AREA AND SO ON.

SO I CANNOT REALLY ATTEST TO.

AND TODAY, RIGHT NOW, IT'S PLEASING TO LOOK AT EVEN TODAY.

SO THEY'VE BEEN I'D SAY THESE THE LAST 4 OR 5 MONTHS, THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING UP WITH THE EXTERIOR LOOKS AND SO ON.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF THE WINDOWS.

AS FAR AS CUTTING THE GRASS, KEEPING TRIM, I THAT'S MY TAKE.

I DRIVE IT DAILY.

SO NOT TO SAY I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THIS.

I MEAN, IF THEY NEED TO TAKE PROPER MEASURE TO BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY OBSERVATION, THE PLAY'S BEEN CLEANED UP CONSIDERABLY.

FROM THE TIME I BROUGHT IT TO YOU GUYS.

ATTENTION. OKAY.

I SUPPOSE THE EXTERIOR LOOK OF IT.

THAT MUCH I CAN SAY.

BUT I'LL SUPPORT THIS.

JUST WANT TO. I'LL BE INTERESTED TO INTERESTING TO SEE.

IS THERE A RELUCTANT, RELUCTANT OR THEM BEING CARELESS, NOT ADDRESSING OR TAKE CARE OF WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. SO I'LL SUPPORT THIS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I'VE SEEN I'VE WITNESSED SOME IMPROVEMENT ON THE PROBLEM.

I HAVEN'T MADE A SITE SURVEY OF IT.

LIKE I HAVEN'T GOTTEN UP CLOSE.

AND BUT TO YOUR POINT, I DID SEE THEM CUTTING THE GRASS.

AGAIN, I THINK MAYBE IF YOU DO A SITE SURVEY, WHICH MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU GET UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL, THERE MIGHT BE SOME, SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AS BEING A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

BUT I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I PASSES THREE ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, AND WE'RE GOING TO WELL, MADAM JONES, YOU PRESENT THIS ITEM.

YES, SIR.

THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES WILL BE HOSTING ITS ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA THIS YEAR.

ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED IN ATTENDING, JUST NOTIFY ME.

IN ADDITION, THIS CONFERENCE DOES COINCIDE WITH THE COUNCIL'S REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 15TH.

SO IF COUNCIL WANTS TO RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING DATE, THAT IS SUGGESTED FOR TUESDAY, AUGUST 13TH.

SO I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS ARE WE CONSIDERING GOING TO THE LEAGUE OF CITIES? IF SO, THEN WE THAT'S A YES.

SO IT'S TUESDAY, AUGUST 13TH FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING.

GOOD. YEAH.

YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

OKAY, SO YOU GOT A RESOUNDING YES.

TO GO AHEAD AND ADVERTISE FOR AUGUST 13TH.

DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT OR.

NO. AND I'M SORRY. ALL OF YOU ATTENDING.

YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'RE. WELL, I'M PLANNING TO ATTEND.

OKAY. AT THIS. IT'S SO FAR DOWN RANGE THAT THINGS ARE REALLY FLUID IN MY ARENA.

SO YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.

MA'AM, WE GO WITH THIS.

I JUST NEED A MOTION FOR RESCHEDULING THE MEETING.

OKAY? I NEED A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THE DATE TO TUESDAY, AUGUST 13TH.

SO MOVED. SECOND, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I WHICH WHICH ITEM IS THIS? OH, AS YOU WERE NUMBER FIVE.

IS IT FIVE? OH, NUMBER FIVE, WAS IT MR. BATTEN? SORRY.

AS YOU WERE AFTER TEN, SIR.

IT'S IT'S IT'S HARD TO CATCH YOU BEFORE YOU GOT THERE, BUT I COULDN'T GET ANYBODY'S ATTENTION.

SORRY, SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586, 430.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW I GOT THREE MINUTES AND A QUESTION.

ONLY TAKES ONE MINUTE TO ASK.

I'M GOOD. YOUR CLOCK IS NOT TICKING.

IT'S. I'M WONDERING WHY.

I UNDERSTAND ATTENDING THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS FOR YOU GUYS.

I'M JUST NEVER BEEN A FAN OF RESCHEDULING REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR US, BECAUSE EVERYTHING REVOLVES AROUND A SCHEDULE FOR US TO IT DOESN'T.

[04:25:02]

OUR SCHEDULES DON'T REVOLVE AROUND YOU.

OUR YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF YOU WORK FOR US, SO WE KEEP CHANGING.

WE HAVE YOU MAKE US CHANGE OUR SCHEDULES TO MEET YOUR NEEDS.

SO. WELL, JUST KIND OF KIND OF PUTS A LITTLE CRAW IN THERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HARD TO SWALLOW A LITTLE BIT SOMETIMES.

I WAS LOOKING I SAID, IF IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN HOLLYWOOD, I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU DRIVE BACK ON THE 17TH.

BUT THAT WOULD BE A HARD DRIVE FROM HOLLYWOOD TO BE BACK HERE BY SIX, 6:00.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I INTEND ON ATTENDING IT.

BUT I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF RESCHEDULING MEETINGS SO THAT YOU CAN ATTEND THE SOCIAL FUNCTIONS YOU WANT TO ATTEND.

IT JUST SITS WRONG.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST BRIEFLY, THIS IS A REQUEST TO PULL $7,000 OUT OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND TO BE USED FOR THE COMMUNITY READ AND FEED SUMMER PROGRAM WITHIN POWELL DRISCOLL SUBDIVISIONS PROGRAM.

WE DO EVERY YEAR.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS? COUNCIL? NO, SIR. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.