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[CALL TO ORDER:]
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2024.WORKSHOP. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS WORKSHOP TO ORDER.
AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR DONNY FELIX.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HOORAH! MISS LEFLER, ROLL CALL PLEASE.
[1. Public Works infrastructure discussion.]
OKAY, WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE BUSINESS, AND IT'S OUR PUBLIC WORKS INFRASTRUCTURE DISCUSSION.THIS WAS A REQUEST BY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PUBLIC WORKS INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY, OUR PLANNING AND EFFORTS, AND TALKING ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
SO, VALENTINO, TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.
SO WE'RE ON TO THE NEXT REQUEST FROM OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND COUNCIL TO GO OVER THE MANY ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE. AND AS YOU SEE IN THE SLIDE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO OVERVIEW IS.
REGIONAL ROADWAY SYSTEMS. FUTURE. CITYWIDE NORTH SOUTH AND EAST WEST CORRIDORS.
VERY INTERESTING SLIDE ON THIS TRAFFIC SAFETY VISION ZERO AND CRASH DATA EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ROADWAY CAPACITY.
ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE TOPICS.
INTER INTERSECTION TURN LANES AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
WE'VE INCLUDED OUR BRIDGE STRUCTURES HERE.
THE CONDITION OF THOSE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT OUR BTS PROJECTS.
ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE ONES HERE, TRYING TO BRING THIS TECHNOLOGY INTO THE INTO THE CITY STREET LIGHTING, SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS, ROADWAY, TREES AND LANDSCAPING, TRAFFIC CALMING, SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.
SO I'M GOING TO DEPEND A LOT TODAY ON MY EXPERTS.
I'M GOING TO CALL UPON FRANK OUR CITY ENGINEER CITY TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO TALK ABOUT ABOUT THESE ITEMS. AND ALSO, ALAN DUNN IS HERE TONIGHT WHO'S AN EXPERT ON SIGNALIZATION.
HE'S GOING TO COVER SOME OF THOSE TOPICS, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS.
SO I'M GOING TO GIVE WAY TO FRANK TO COME UP.
AND. AND START HERE WITH OUR REGIONAL ROADWAY SYSTEM.
THANK YOU. VALENTINO. AGAIN, FRANK WATANABE.
I WANT TO START WITH THE BIG PICTURE, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK DOWN TO OUR OUR LOCAL STREETS.
SO ON THE BIG PICTURE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS OUR MAJOR ROADWAYS.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS.
AND WHAT'S CRITICAL ABOUT OUR REGIONAL ROADWAY SYSTEMS ARE THE ONES THAT WE GET FEDERAL DOLLARS FOR.
SO THE IMPORTANT PART ABOUT OUR REGIONAL ROADWAY SYSTEM IS TO MAKE SURE WE GET OURSELVES POSITIONED IN THE RIGHT POSITION, WHICH OUR COUNCIL HAS ON THE TPO IS GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TO GET WHAT THEY CALL ROADWAY FUNDS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY CALL TIP FUNDS, WHICH IS TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PROGRAMS. THAT'S A FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT ARE AT TPO HELPS US TO GET MONEY FOR THAT COMES THROUGH FDOT, THAT COMES FROM THE FEDS.
AND SO THE GOOD PART ABOUT WHAT'S SHOWN ON THIS LIST HERE, THESE ARE REGIONAL PROJECTS.
SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THEM. THEY'RE ALL ON THE TIP.
SO THAT'S VERY POSITIVE FOR US.
WE HAD THE BABCOCK FOUR LANE WIDENING FROM MALABAR TO MICHAEL ROWE.
THAT WAS IN A PDA THAT GOT HALTED.
AND THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE THERE WAS FUNDING DIFFICULTIES WITH THE NEXT PHASE OF DESIGN.
THAT WAS THE COUNTY LID PROJECT WITH THE CITY.
THE NEXT ONE WE HAVE IS MALABAR PDA.
WE'RE IN THE FINAL CLOSE UP WITH THAT ONE.
IT'S IT'S IN THE REVIEW PROCESS.
WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY.
AND ONCE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN JULY THAT SHOWS THE PREFERRED RECOMMENDED ALTERNATIVES, WE HOPE TO CLOSE OUT THE PROJECT BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND HOPEFULLY THEN START OUR DESIGN PHASE THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER IMPORTANT PROJECT, FEDERALLY FUNDED THE MALABAR FOUR LANE DESIGN.
WE AS A CITY TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES TO USE OUR OWN TIP FUNDS AS WELL AS THE TPO TO BACK THIS UP.
AND AGAIN, THANKS TO OUR COUNCIL TO BE ON THE TIP TO MANEUVER AND GET THOSE MONIES.
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SO WE NOW HAVE THAT MONEY NOW READY TO GO FOR OUR DESIGN PHASE.AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH PROCUREMENT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD PROJECT.
THE FOUR LANE WIDENING OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, ANOTHER CRITICAL ROADWAY THAT WE HAVE.
WE'RE IN THE CURRENT PROCESS OF GETTING A DESIGN SELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THEN THE NEXT PHASE WILL BE, OF COURSE, THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
WE HAVE A TENTATIVE COST RIGHT NOW, ABOUT $30 MILLION, BUT TODAY'S COST COULD ESCALATE EVEN HIGHER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE BREAKING IT UP IN PIECES.
IT WILL BE THE BRIDGE STRUCTURE OVER THE OVER THE C-1 CANAL.
MAYBE BREAK THAT AS A SEPARATE LITTLE PROJECT AND GO AFTER A $5 MILLION BRIDGE PROJECT.
SO SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO DIFFERENT WAYS OF TRYING TO GET THESE REGIONAL PROJECTS.
AND THEY'RE ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT REGIONAL FUNDS.
AS WE GO DOWN THE LIST. WE HAVE THE MINTON ROAD WIDENING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE MOST CRITICAL ONE, AND I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR, IS I-95 AT MALABAR ROAD.
THAT HAS BEEN PUT ON A SPOTLIGHT.
AND AND THEN THIS YEAR, FIRST TIME EVER FDOT PROGRAMED IT IT IT CAME OUT OF THE SKY.
PEOPLE AT THE TPO WERE SHOCKED THAT A PROJECT GOT FUNDED THROUGH FDOT FOR A SINGLE CITY PROJECT, AND IT IS CURRENTLY PROGRAMED FOR $3.5 MILLION TO DO A PDA STUDY. THAT'S AMAZING.
AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET FUNDED THROUGH STATE AND FEDERAL DOLLARS TO, TO DO OUR OWN, TO TRY TO GET IT FUNDED FOR THE EARLY OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.
THIS IS THE LONG TERM PDA STUDY.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE REGIONAL PROJECTS.
AND OF COURSE, THE VERY LAST ONE, I'M GOING TO GO INTO THAT MORE IN DETAIL.
WE WERE GIVEN TPO DOLLARS TO DESIGN OUR IT SYSTEM FOR MALABAR EMERSON AND SAN FILIPPO.
AND I'LL GET INTO THE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE SO FAR BEHIND ON THE IT'S.
YES THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO BRING INTO BUT THAT'S THIS IS A REGIONAL PROJECT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THIS IS THE TPO MAP.
THIS IS THE THE MONEY WITH THE FEDS COMES WE HAVE ONE AND TWO MALABAR AND BABCOCK IS ONE.
YOU GUYS DONE A GREAT JOB IN GETTING THIS POSITION CORRECTLY.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS.
THE NEXT LIST GOES INTO THE FARTHER FUTURE ROADS WE WANT TO HAVE.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AGAIN OUR REGIONAL ROADS AND ECLECTIC ROADS.
AND WE'LL GET TO THE LOCAL ROADS LATER ON.
SO WE HAVE BASICALLY OUR NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST.
WE'RE A TYPICAL GDC GRID SYSTEM.
WE DO HAVE SOME CIRCULAR ROADS, BUT MAINLY IT'S A GRIDDED SYSTEM.
AT BABCOCK, WE HAVE THE A STUDY THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST YEAR.
ACE IS THE ALTERNATIVE CORRIDOR EVALUATION.
SO NOW WE HAVE KIND OF LIKE A PREFERRED ALIGNMENT AS SHOWN ON THIS MAP.
WITHIN THAT PREFERRED ALIGNMENT, IT DOES GO THROUGH THE COMPOUND.
IT DOES STRADDLE WHIGHAM, WHICH IS A POTENTIAL GOOD ROAD FOR US TO BE LOOKING AT.
AND THEN FOR THE FUTURE OF THE COMPOUND AS A MAJOR.
A ROADWAY. SO SOMETHING TO BE LOOKING AT AS A NORTH SOUTH CORRIDOR.
ANOTHER GOOD POSSIBLE LINK TO PROVIDE US A NORTH SOUTH CONNECTION POINT.
THEN MAYBE IT'LL TAKE TRAFFIC FROM THE COMPOUND.
SO IT'LL BE KIND OF LIKE A LIKE AN INTERIM PROJECT UNTIL THE A STUDY GETS DONE.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THESE POTENTIAL WHAT COULD HAPPEN AS A NORTH SOUTH INTERIM LONGTERM.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WHEN WE START LOOKING AT OUR EAST WEST CORRIDOR, WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED.
WE HAVE, OF COURSE, THE MALABAR ROAD WIDENING.
WE'RE DOING EMERSON IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
WHEN I SAY NEAR FUTURE, NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE NEED TO WIDEN THAT ROADWAY.
THERE'S A CUL DE SAC THAT NEEDS TO GET PUNCHED THROUGH THAT NEEDS TO CLEAR UP THAT TRAFFIC.
AND BAYSIDE, WE KEEP HEARING PROBLEMS WITH BAYSIDE, BAYSIDE LAKES, TRAFFIC ON.
WE NEED TO GET THAT ROAD CONNECTED.
SO THERE'S ANOTHER EAST SOUTH CORRIDOR.
IT'S REAL BASIC, YOU KNOW, GRAVITY FED IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC.
TRAFFIC WILL FLOW WHEN THERE'S CONNECTION POINTS.
SO AGAIN THOSE ARE OUR NORTH SOUTH EAST WEST PROJECTS.
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LET'S CONTINUE ON.HOW DOES THAT GET TO IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY AND CRASHES.
SO YOU HAVE THE THE DATA TO THEN BE ABLE TO PRESENT.
SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS 23, IT'S ACTUALLY 22 CRASH DATA.
IF YOU LOOK AT THESE ARE THE HIGH INJURY ACCIDENT LOCATIONS IN BREVARD COUNTY.
THOSE ARE AT EMERSON AND ELDERON.
AND WE KNEW ABOUT THE ONE ON EMERSON.
EMERSON IS A HIGH VOLUME, HIGH PEDESTRIAN HIGH ACTIVITY LOCATIONS THAT MADE SENSE.
AND WE KNOW WHAT TO DO TO FIX IT.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.
ELDON WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT CAUGHT US OFF GUARD.
IT'S ALSO ANOTHER HIGH LOCATION.
IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A SCHOOL CROSSING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.
THERE'S ONE ON AMERICANA AT MINTON.
THERE'S ONE ON BAYSIDE, OF COURSE, AT COGAN.
AND WE FOUND SOME ANOMALIES AND WE'RE GOING TO FIX THOSE.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ANOMALIES IS REAL BASIC.
IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE THE CITY'S HAD REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, OVERVIEW AND TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC HAD BEEN KIND OF LIKE MAYBE NOT ON THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT IT SHOULD BE ON THE PRIORITY LIST. NOW THAT WE'RE NOW MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL THESE ISSUES WITH TRAFFIC.
AND A LOT OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN WITH SMALL SEGMENTS.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES BASED ON THIS CRASH DATA.
WE FOUND OUT IT MATCHED UP TO SOME OF THOSE ERRORS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO FIX THOSE REAL FAST AS WELL AS LOOK AT SIGNAL TIMING CHANGES.
SO WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THESE CRASH LOCATIONS AS OUR PRIORITIES AND MONITOR THESE AS WELL.
SO THIS IS WHAT KIND OF GAVE US WHERE DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
AND THEN THAT MOVES US INTO THE NEXT PICTURE WHICH IS NOT SO GOOD IS.
I GOT THIS FROM THE TPO VISION ZERO AND VISION ZERO MEANS ZERO DEATHS.
WE'RE ALL WE PROVIDED OUR SUPPORT TO THAT WITH AN ORDINANCE.
YOU GUYS, THIS IS WAY HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL STANDARDS TO BE IN THE TEENS.
WE'RE HIGHER THAN THE NATIONAL STANDARDS.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, FLORIDA, IT RATES POOR IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLE SAFETY.
AND AGAIN, I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY.
IT'S BECAUSE MOST OTHER STATES I COME FROM CALIFORNIA WALKABILITY, SIDEWALKS, TRAILS ARE EVERYWHERE.
AND THAT'S WHY THESE NUMBERS ARE STANDING OUT.
AND AS, AS AS THE MOTORIZED VEHICLES GET MORE AND MORE CONGESTED ON OUR ROADWAYS, THESE BECOME VICTIMS. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO SHIELDS.
SO THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR ME IN TERMS OF OUR PEDESTRIANS AND OUR BICYCLES.
AND SO I'M GOING TO MAKE IT MY MY TOP GOAL IS GOING TO BE IT'S ON.
MY SECOND GOAL IS TO GET THE SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS.
BECAUSE THIS THIS IS SHOCKING TO SEE THESE DOUBLE DIGITS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES.
IT SHOULD BE BACK IN THE SINGLES.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S A BALANCING OF TRAFFIC AND THE MORE TRAFFIC YOU HAVE, HOW DO WE THEN EDUCATE OUR PEOPLE TO DRIVE SAFER AND THE SAFER MODE? AND THAT'S GOING TO BE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR RESIDENTS AND OURSELVES.
AND WE'LL GET INTO THAT WITH TRAFFIC CALMING.
BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE HIGH NUMBER OF IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIANS AND SAFETY ISSUES.
THESE ARE ALL OUR ROADS, 32 ROADS IN TERMS OF OUR COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS.
SO WHEN I KEEP HEARING PEOPLE SAYING OUR ROADS ARE CONGESTED, OUR ROADS ARE AT MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN WE'RE IN NOT A GOOD PLACE.
CAPACITY FOR A FOUR LANE ROADWAY UNDER FDOT IS WHAT THEY CALL MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE VOLUME MAV.
FOR A FOUR LANE ROAD WITH 40 MILES OR GREATER, THE ALLOWABLE IS 17,700.
OKAY, THAT'S THE NATIONAL STANDARD.
WE ONLY HAVE THREE ROADS, SIX SEGMENTS THAT ARE IN THAT SLOT, AND IT'S SLIGHTLY THE WORST ONE YOU'LL SEE IS, OF COURSE, MILTON ROAD AT IT'S BETWEEN EMERSON AND PALM BAY ROAD AND THAT'S COUNTY.
BUT ALL THE OTHER ONES, WE'RE JUST BARELY OVER THAT, THAT THRESHOLD.
SO AGAIN, JUST WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE TRAFFIC, WE DO HAVE TRAFFIC.
WHEN WE WHEN WE SAY WE HAVE TRAFFIC, MAYBE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THE PEAK TRAFFIC.
THIS IS THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC IS WHAT YOU BASE IT ON.
AND YOUR AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC IS NOT THAT BAD TODAY.
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SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE WE GET AHEAD OF IT.SO THAT'S WHERE I WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY WE'RE AT CAPACITY I DON'T SEE THE NUMBERS YET.
SO IT'S ALL BASED ON PERCEPTION.
BUT AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PALM BAY GREW REAL FAST.
SO WE NEED TO FIX THESE ISSUES.
BUT JUST OVERALL, THE PROBLEM IS ALSO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT THRESHOLD OF CAPACITY MAKES IT HARDER.
IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR US TO USE.
YOU CAN SAY LIKE OUR TIP FUNDS BECAUSE THAT'S MADE TO IMPROVE WHAT WE HAVE, CAPACITY DEFICIENCIES.
I DON'T SEE THEM YET, SO WE HAVE TO ONLY FOCUS WHERE WE SEE THE PROBLEM.
SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
I WAS TRYING TO WAIT TILL THE END FOR QUESTIONS.
WHEN WE WHEN WE MEASURE THIS, DO WE ALSO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTS? THIS DOESN'T THIS IS ONLY TODAY'S SNAPSHOT.
IF I THREW IN THE FORECASTED NUMBERS, THEN YOU'LL SEE.
OF COURSE, YOU'LL SEE SAINT JOHN'S JUMPING UP.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE SAINT JOHN'S IN HERE.
YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF SAINT JOHN'S AND MALABAR'S THE BABCOCK STREET CORRIDORS.
THEY'LL JUMP BECAUSE THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED, I CALL THEM GHOST SHIPS.
THEY'RE VESTED, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HOMES, BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE YET.
THEY'RE BEING BUILT, BUT THE TRIPS AREN'T THERE YET.
WE DON'T HAVE THEIR IMPACT YET BECAUSE THE HOMES AREN'T.
THEY'RE PAYING UP FRONT NOW WHY WE WANT TO BUILD A ROAD.
SO SO IN YOUR SENSE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
ALONG WITH THAT IS IMPACT FEES.
I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE SAID.
THEIR IMPACT FEES ARE CRITICAL TO HOW THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
CARRY ON SIR. SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND YOU'RE RIGHT THIS IS ONLY TODAY'S EXISTING VOLUMES.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL TRAFFIC SYSTEM, TRAFFIC'S ARE MADE OF LINKS AND NODES.
IF THE NODES FAIL, THE SEGMENTS WILL FAIL SOON, SOON AFTER.
SO WHAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO AND MAJOR URBANIZED AREAS.
YOU HIT THE INTERSECTIONS FIRST AND THEY'RE EASY TO FIX.
ALL IT TAKES IS A RIGHT TURN OR A LEFT TURN.
AND. AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, A LOT OF OUR INTERSECTIONS ARE MISSING LEFT TURNS AND RIGHT TURNS.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE NEED TO GET AHEAD OF IT.
YOU BACKED UP THE TRAFFIC, NOW YOU LOST THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE SEGMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH INTERSECTIONS.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT ARE THE ONES WE NEED TO DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE HAVE SIGNALS.
WARRANT MEANS IT'S OKAY TO PUT A SIGNAL IN BABCOCK AT COGAN.
AND AS YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A GOOD POSSIBILITY AT BABCOCK AND AT ALTAMONT AND GRANT, THE ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING THE EMAILS FROM THE FROM THE INDIVIDUAL. IT'S GETTING CLOSE.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW AROUND THE NUMBERS.
IT'S NOT THERE YET, BUT IT'S GETTING CLOSE.
SO ON THAT LIST AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S BRAND NEW, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT IT ON THERE.
ANOTHER ONE WE NEED TO ADD TO THE LIST.
SO THESE ARE THE ONES WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.
I WANT TO GO TO THESE TURN SIGNAL, THESE TURN LANES BECAUSE I THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON WITH THAT.
RIGHT. THAT COULD KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOWING AND THERE'S CONGESTION FOR THAT.
HAVE YOU STUDIED ON HOW WE CAN IMPLEMENT THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE? YES, SIR. OKAY.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE AND IS THERE A IS THERE A COST AND.
YEAH I LOVE IT. LISTEN I'VE BEEN TALKING.
THE REASON WHY IT HASN'T BEEN ADVERTISED YET FOR CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAD THE TIF.
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I'M WAITING FOR A GOOD THING SHE'S NOT HERE.WHY? BECAUSE I'VE CHECKED WITH FPL.
IT WOULD COST US CLOSE TO $1 MILLION TO BRING OUR POWER OUT THERE.
I'M GOING TO WAIT UNTIL CIRCLE K GOES IN FIRST AND THEN LET THEM PUT THE MILLION DOLLAR POWER SOURCE IN, AND THEN WE COULD GET TAPPING OFF AN FPL POWER LINE AT A VERY MODERATE COST. AND THEY'RE COMING AROUND THE CORNER.
THE CIRCLE K'S. IT'S ALMOST READY.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW YEARS.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A FEW MONTHS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.
THIS INTERSECTION AGENCY READY TO GO SHELF READY TO BE PERMITTED.
ALL SET TO GO AS SOON AS WE GET POWER.
IT'LL BE ADVERTISED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
AND TO YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS AGAIN, THIS IS THE SAN FILIPPO AT JUPITER.
THIS ONE ALSO MET REQUIREMENTS.
HOWEVER, THIS INTERSECTION, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S WHAT THEY CALL SPLIT PHASING.
WHAT IT IS IS, IS JUPITER GOES FIRST BY ITSELF AND THEN THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
COLLEGE PARK HAS TO GO BECAUSE THE LEFT TURNS DON'T MATCH UP.
TYPICALLY WHAT YOU WANT IS YOUR TWO LEFT TURNS TO GO AT THE SAME TIME CONCURRENTLY.
SO IT SAVES THE SIGNAL CYCLE TIME SO YOU GET AS MUCH CAPACITY IN THE INTERSECTION.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO IT RUNS VERY DEFICIENT.
SO YOU PUT IT IN WHAT THEY CALL SPLIT PHASING.
SO ONE SIDE GOES THE OTHER SIDE THEN GOES.
SO THIS ONE IS ALSO ANOTHER ONE.
WE'RE IN THE EARLY DESIGN STAGES.
WE WANT TO GET THIS READY TO GO AND GET THIS BUILT AND CONSTRUCTED.
AND THEN ANOTHER ONE OUR FAMOUS ONE.
OF COURSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EMERSON AT MALABAR.
MAJOR DEFICIENCY ON THAT DOUBLE LEFT GOING SOUTHBOUND.
IT NEEDS THAT DOUBLE LEFT TO GO ONTO MALABAR ROAD.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME MALABAR ROAD NEEDS AN ADDITIONAL LANE.
IT'S IN THE MEDIAN. IT'S JUST WE JUST HAVEN'T PAVED IT YET.
REMEMBER OUR FAMOUS DRAINAGE PROJECT? WE SPIN CASTED THE PIPES AND PEOPLE WERE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT SINKHOLES.
WE TOOK CARE OF A TRIAL PROJECT 900FT.
WE STABILIZED THE MATERIAL IN THE GROUND.
EVERYTHING LOOKED GREAT. WE ACTUALLY WENT DOWN.
JOHN MYSELF ACTUALLY WENT DOWN INTO IT LOOKS GREAT.
SO THERE ARE NO JOINTS AND IT'S ONE UNIFORM CONCRETE PIPE.
NOW WE FOUND ONE SMALL CRACK IN THE 900FT.
SO WE NEED TO CONTINUE THAT AND FINISH THE REST OF THE PIPE.
SO SO RIGHT ALONG THAT EMERSON COURT I KNOW YOU WENT STRAIGHT TO.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BUILD A RIGHT TURN LANE THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT ON EMERSON ON MALABAR ROAD GOING WEST.
ONCE YOU HIT EMERSON WE HAVE IT CREATES YOU KNOW IT'S A THREE.
RIGHT. THERE'S THREE, THREE DIFFERENT LANES.
YES. YOU MERGE ONCE YOU GET PAST EMERSON, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT PRIOR TO THAT, WE HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES THAT ARE STACKED UP GOING HEADING WEST THAT ARE STACKED UP ON THE EAST SIDE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN.
BUT IT'S PACKED. AND I THINK A RIGHT TURN LANE WOULD ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT.
WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT. YEAH, WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
AGAIN. THE PROBLEM I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS SIR.
I COULD JUST TELL YOU BY EXPERIENCE OKAY.
AND THE ONLY ISSUE WE HAVE IS INSIDE THAT MEDIAN WHERE WE HAVE POTENTIAL ROOMS TO WIDEN OUT.
YES. SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES.
WIDENING ROADS IS NOT THE ANSWER.
AND JUST GIVE ME A HEADS UP. WIDENING ROADS IS NOT THE ANSWER.
AND EVERY URBAN CITY KNOWS THAT.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO BECAUSE IT'S AN INTERSECTION TURN MOVEMENT THAT WE NEED.
IT'S VERY HARD TO, WHEN YOU HAVE LEFT TURNS AND RIGHT TURNS THAT ARE NEEDED AND THEY'RE NOT THERE.
YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO IMPROVE THE INTERSECTION UNTIL THOSE TURN MOVEMENTS ARE PUT IN.
IN THIS SITUATION, YOU NEED A DOUBLE LEFT.
THAT HEAVY MOVEMENT IS JUST YOU GOT A LOT OF CARS TURNING AND YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.
IF THERE'S A HEAVY LEFT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A HEAVY RIGHT.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT. MAYOR.
WE HAVE WITHIN OUR ROADWAY SYSTEM, 19 BRIDGE STRUCTURES.
WE DO HAVE ABOUT 15 PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES THAT ARE NOT REVIEWED AND INSPECTED BY FDOT.
FDOT INSPECTS ALL OUR ROADWAYS, BRIDGES.
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GOOD NEWS IS A FEW MONTHS AGO, I HAD OUR FDOT STRUCTURES.I SAID, CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME AN OVERALL SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWS ME ALL THE UPDATES AS OF RIGHT NOW? AND JUST QUICKLY, I'VE DONE ENOUGH OF THESE.
GIVE ME THE LIKE THE, THE, THE, THE CHEAP MAN'S VERSION OF WHAT'S GOOD AND WHAT'S BAD, HE SAYS.
WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE VERY FAR NUMBERS, THERE'S TWO NUMBERS YOU NEED TO LOOK AT.
THERE'S A SUFFICIENT RATING AND THEN THERE'S A HEALTHY RATING.
THE SUFFICIENT RATING HAS SO MANY FACTORS.
YOU UNLESS YOU'RE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, YOU NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS HOW YOU LOOK AT THAT NUMBER.
IT DEPENDS ON THE WIDTH THE THE SPAN.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE HEALTH INDEX, HE SAYS, HE PRETTY MUCH SAID, FRANK, YOU'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
YOUR BRIDGES ARE GOOD FOR 20 YEARS.
PLUS, HE SAYS, THIS IS AN F-TYPE STRUCTURES GUY.
HE SAYS THE ONLY TWO YOU HAVE AND IT MAKES SENSE.
OUR BRIDGES ARE IN GOOD SHAPE.
AND AGAIN THIS MEANS IT'S GOOD TODAY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN. WE STILL NEED TO MAINTAIN IT.
OUR PEOPLE WILL STILL NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN IT.
WE MONITOR IT WHEN WE HAVE HEAVY STORMS. WE NEED TO GO OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO DAMAGES TO THE ABUTMENTS, TO ANY SCARRING ON THE COLUMNS OR ANY DEFICIENCIES, YOU KNOW, ALONG THE EDGES.
AS LONG AS WE DO THAT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB BECAUSE OUR RATINGS ARE VERY HIGH, WE HAVE WE GET COMMENTS IN TERMS OF MINOR REPAIRS, BUT THE OVERALL HEALTH INDEX IS VERY HIGH, WHICH IS VERY GOOD FOR US.
AND WE'RE BECAUSE BRIDGE MONEY IS HARD TO GET TO RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW OUR BRIDGES ARE IN GREAT SHAPE.
DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T NOT LOOK AT THESE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE CURRENT SITUATION WE'RE IN GOOD.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HIGHLIGHT THAT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT RIGHT NOW FOR OUR BRIDGES.
BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIES CAN'T SAY THIS COUNTY CAN'T SAY THIS.
SO I WAS VERY IMPRESSED GOING MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S THIS IS THE WAY I WANT TO JUMP INTO IT.
THIS IS MY SPECIALTY. SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND YOU GUYS.
IT IS IN MY BACKGROUND IS WHAT I STARTED WITH WHEN I STARTED IN CALIFORNIA.
I'M A MY BACKGROUND IS IN TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND IT'S AN IT'S AN INTEGRAL TIME.
I STARTED MY CAREER DOING AN ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECT WAS IN LA.
THEY CALL IT THE TOLLS, THE TRAFFIC OPERATION SYSTEMS. I HELPED DESIGN AND BUILD THE TOLL SYSTEMS IN LA.
I WORKED FOR A CONSULTANT COMPANY, A VERY POPULAR CONSULTANT COMPANY.
WE DESIGNED THE SYSTEMS IN SAN JOSE.
I FOLLOWED UP, WE DESIGNED THE SYSTEMS IN PORTLAND, OREGON AND MAIER.
I ACTUALLY WENT TO GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT.
AND I PUT IN THE IT SYSTEM ON US ONE IN GREENWICH, CONNECTICUT, BACK 30 YEARS AGO.
SO I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST NORTH OF NEWARK.
AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, U.S.
ONE IS ON THE WEST SIDE, I-95.
SO IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
AND HERE'S HERE'S THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SYNCHRONIZE THE SIGNALS.
WE CAN PROVIDE TRAVEL INFORMATION, WE CAN DO INCIDENT MANAGEMENT.
WE CAN IMPROVE OUR AND REDUCE DELAYS AND STOPS.
BUT HERE'S HERE'S A HERE'S A SAD PART.
NOW BREVARD COUNTY HAS OVER 350 SIGNALS.
HALF OF THEIRS ARE INTERCONNECTED.
MEANS THEY'RE IN THEY'RE COMMUNICATING AND THEY'RE IN SOME SORT OF COORDINATION.
GOOD FOR THEM. CITY OF MELBOURNE 7676 100%.
SO WE GOT ZERO AND THE 11 ONES THAT WE HAVE INTERCONNECTED I THINK THOSE ARE ON PALM BAY ROAD.
THEY'RE THE ONES OUT HERE ON MALABAR ROAD BETWEEN WALMART AND VALOR.
YEAH. WE NEED TO GET OUR SIGNALS CONNECTED.
WE NEED TO GET IT MOVING FORWARD AND GET AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
BECAUSE THIS IS, FOR ME, A AWAKENER BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT TO DO.
IT'S. YEAH. AND SO HOW DO WE GET THERE? LIKE HOW CAN WE GET THERE NOW? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN ASKING WELL, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER FOR YEARS ON THIS AND HOW CRITICALLY IMPORTANT IT.
AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I'VE WITNESSED HOW YOU CAN MOVE TRAFFIC EFFECTIVELY WITH IT.
AND I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO JUST THIS.
IT'S SYSTEMS FOR MALABAR SAN FILIPPO AND EMERSON WERE ARE DESIGNED THE COST RIGHT THERE.
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MALABAR IS AT 3.5, SAN FILIPPO IS 1.2 AND EMERSON IS 1.7.YOU CAN SAY THE DESIGNS ARE DONE SHELVED.
READY TO GO. TPO HELPED US OUT, SO NOW WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE CONSTRUCTION DOLLARS.
SO WE'RE ONE STEP CLOSER NOW WITH THE BTS.
AND EVEN BETTER NEWS IS I TALKED TO THE CHIEF WITH ITS IN TERMS OF MOVING TRAFFIC.
WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT OUR OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
WHAT? WE DON'T HAVE THIS. IT'S CALLED EMERGENCY VEHICLE PREEMPTION.
AND IN ADVANCE OF THE FIRE ENGINE.
I'M SORRY. ALL URBANIZED CITIES HAVE EMERGENCY PREEMPTION VEHICLES.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE CHALLENGE IS WHEN YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION.
YOU KNOW, OR WAIT BEHIND A QUEUE OF CARS.
SO NOW YOU'RE LOSING RESPONSE TIME.
THIS IS ESSENTIAL IF YOU LOOK AT THE VERY.
I PULL THIS FROM THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND I'M TALKING ABOUT THIS MUST BE URBANIZED CITIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE METROPOLITAN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SAY LA, CHICAGO, NEW YORK, IT SAYS INTERSECTION.
IT COULD REDUCE CRASHES UP TO 70% AT THE INTERSECTION WITH THESE.
YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 50 INTERSECTIONS TO GO THROUGH YOU.
I'M SAYING WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
BUT GUESS WHAT? WE WILL BE THERE.
WE NEED TO HAVE THIS IN OUR SYSTEM.
I'VE ALREADY CHECKED IN OUR DESIGN THAT WE JUST HAD APPROVED 100% DESIGN.
CAN THIS BE INCORPORATED? YES. EASILY DONE.
THIS IS THIS FOR ME IS IS REAL BASIC STUFF THAT OUR FIRE ENGINES SHOULD HAVE.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF IT.
IN THE PAST I THINK THERE WERE SOME ISSUES QUESTIONED ABOUT.
AND THE AMBULANCE TO THE SIGNAL WILL STEP BACK INTO CYCLE.
IT WILL STEP BACK INTO THE CYCLE.
IT WON'T KICK IT OUT OF CYCLE TO THE POINT WHERE YOU HAVE GRIDLOCK.
PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE THESE PREEMPTION SYSTEMS. YOU GRIDLOCK THE INTERSECTION.
IT'LL STEP BACK IN BECAUSE THE FIRE ENGINE IS NOT GOING TO BE ONE AFTER THE OTHER.
YOU MAY HAVE 2 OR 3 AND THEN IT'LL STEP BACK IN THE SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO HAVE.
SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS AS AN ISSUE.
AND THEN GOING INTO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GO NEXT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A SYNCHRO DIAGRAM I'VE ALREADY CREATED.
SO OF THESE FIVE INTERSECTIONS, ALL I NEED IS ONCE WE GET THE HARDWARE HOOKED UP, THE HARDWARE, THE FIRMWARE, THE COMMUNICATION AND THE DATA, WHICH IS THE VOLUME, I COULD RUN THE SYNCHRO AND CREATE THE SIGNAL TIME.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I CAN CREATE COORDINATED SIGNAL TIMINGS FOR THE AM, THE NOON, THE PM.
I CAN CREATE A COORDINATED SIGNAL TIMINGS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS FOR WEEKENDS.
SO THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST COORDINATED SIGNAL SYSTEM.
THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST SIGNALIZED SIGNAL SYNCHRONIZED SIGNAL SYSTEM FOR THE CITY.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY GOT THE MONEY FOR 160 K.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS YEAR.
OKAY. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP IT IS MOVING FORWARD.
JUST GIVE US TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR TO GET THIS THIS DEMONSTRATION PROJECT GOING.
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT.
AND I WANT TO SWITCH OVER NOW TO STREETLIGHTS.
I'M GOING TO HAVE ALAN GO OVER THE STREETLIGHTS.
STREET LIGHTS. A LOT OF ISSUES WE HAVE WITH STREET LIGHTS AND THE THINGS GOING OUT THROUGH THE CITY.
WE LIVE IN A PRETTY MUCH DARK CITY.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ISSUES OUT THERE.
THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN CALLED TALL.
ALRIGHTY. IS THAT BETTER? YES, SIR. THAT WAS BETTER.
WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FROM OUR CITIZENS FOR STREET LIGHTS, YOU KNOW? OH, IT'S DARK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY COME HERE AND THEY GO, HOLY CRAP, IT'S DARK OUT HERE.
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EXCUSE ME, BUT THOSE FROM SOUTH FLORIDA AS WELL.I MEAN, MY AGENCY, I CAME FROM OUT WEST IN ARIZONA, HAD A LOT MORE STREET LIGHTS.
WE PAY A RENTAL FEE BASICALLY PER MONTH.
THAT INCLUDES THE POWER, THE MAINTENANCE AND THE FIXTURE, THE RENTAL COST FOR THE FIXTURE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW THEY PUT IT TOGETHER.
AND. IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE THING WE DO OVER TIME.
YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE EXPENSIVE.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS.
OH, WE'LL PUT FIVE STREET LIGHTS DOWN THIS STREET NOW, BUT ARE WE DOING IT CORRECTLY? DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT PHOTOMETRIC? ARE WE SERVING OUR CITIZENS APPROPRIATELY? BECAUSE IF WE JUST PUT ONE HERE, ONE HERE, ONE THERE, WE'RE CERTIFYING MAYBE HELPING ONE PERSON, BUT WE'RE NOT SERVING THE WHOLE OF OUR CONSTITUENCY.
OVERALL, THE MASTER WOULDN'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPED.
HOW DO WE APPROACH THIS TYPE OF CORRIDOR TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO START COMING UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS.
THAT POWER IS GOING ON THE GROUND.
THEREFORE, WE HAVE TO PUT IN A POLL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE STREETLIGHT.
STREETLIGHT POLES COST US WHEN WE RENT THEM FROM FPL ABOUT $8 A MONTH.
ADDED TO THAT FEE AND WHEN WE GET A LIGHT FROM FPL.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GET IN.
BACK IN 2007 2008 WHEN WE HAD THE ECONOMIC DOWNTURN.
THE CURRENT CITY MANAGER AT THAT TIME ACTUALLY LOOKED AT HOW TO GET RID OF OUR STREETLIGHTS AND TAKE THEM OUT, BECAUSE THE BILL WAS EXPENSIVE, AND HE FOUND OUT YOU BASICALLY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY MORE JUST TO GET BACK OUT THAN IT WAS WORTH DOING.
BUT THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS PRUDENTLY.
YEAH. I'LL PASS THIS ON TO US DIRECTLY.
YEAH. SO MY QUESTION, I GUESS, ARE THERE ANY CITIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO HAVE PRETTY MUCH KIND OF WENT OFF THE GRID OR, OR JUST PROVIDE ELECTRICITY THEMSELVES BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO GO DOWN, GENERATE THEIR OWN? I MEAN, SOME INDUSTRIES LIKE MY HOMETOWN, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN POWER PLANT, THEY DO THEIR OWN THING, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ELECTRIC SERVICE THEMSELVES.
OKAY. AND THAT CREATES WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT SOLAR STREETLIGHTS.
YOU'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE MIC, BUDDY.
GO AHEAD. WE OFTEN WE HAD A SIDEWALK PROJECT IN THE SOUTHEAST OVER OFF OF ELLEN, WHERE WE LOOKED AT STREET USING SOLAR STREET LIGHTS, BECAUSE THERE'S THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN MALABAR OFF OF MALABAR ROAD.
USED TO BE CHAPARRAL THAT ACTUALLY IT'S A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION.
THEY PUT IN SOLAR STREETLIGHTS AND WE LOOK AT.
WOW. WELL, WE LOOK AT IF THE SAME LEASE AGREEMENT WITH FPL FOR THE SAME WATTAGE.
IT'S 787 OR AROUND EIGHT BUCKS.
SO THE SOLAR IS NOT CHEAPER, OR MAYBE NOT EVEN SOLAR.
YOU HAVE A REGULAR APARTMENT, ON THE OTHER YOU HAVE A HIGH RISE APARTMENT.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE WERE ANY CITIES LOCALLY OR IN THE STATE THAT KIND OF JUST SEPARATED FROM FPL OR JUST SAID, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT ON OUR OWN? WELL, I DO. YOU BROUGHT THAT UP? YEAH. VERO BEACH SOLD THEIR THEIR POWER PLANT TO FPL BECAUSE THEY FOR, I DON'T KNOW, DECADES.
I, I, I REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THAT BECAUSE I, I WOULD THAT'S PART OF MY AREA IN MY, IN MY REGULAR JOB SO THAT THAT WAS A TASK IN AND OF ITSELF BECAUSE FPL AT ONE POINT DIDN'T WANT IT.
BUT GO AHEAD, ALAN. I'M SORRY.
UNDER DIRECTION, WE'VE LOOKED AT WE'VE HAD A VENDOR, TANKO LIGHTING.
WE'VE ACTUALLY ISSUED THEM A PURCHASE ORDER.
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RECEIVE FROM OWNING OUR OWN, BECAUSE THEN WE'RE JUST PAYING FOR ELECTRIC AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN IT.AND THIS WOULD OWN AND YOU'RE IN THE MIDST OF THAT STUDY NOW, WE JUST GOT THE POLL SIGNED.
THEY'VE ISSUED IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING SHORTLY TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT. SO WE'LL KNOW IF IT'S A REAL VIABLE OPTION TO LOOK AT.
THEY'LL WHAT THEY'LL DO IS THEY'LL TAKE ALL THE STREETLIGHT, THE OUR BILLS, LOOK AT OUR BILLS, THE NUMBER OF STREETLIGHTS AND DO THEIR MAGIC AND COME UP WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT'S THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
I MEAN, I KNOW YOU'RE BIG ON STREETLIGHTS, DEPUTY MAYOR.
I BELIEVE THE DIRECTION CAME FROM COUNCIL OR FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO LOOK INTO IT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING SO WE CAN IF WE OWN THEM, IT MIGHT BE CHEAPER FOR US.
I MEAN, THE TENTATIVE NUMBERS, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING LOOKS GOOD.
WE ALL KNOW DEALING WITH FPL IS NOT ALWAYS FAST EITHER.
SO IF WE ACTUALLY HAD AN OWNERSHIP WE COULD ACTUALLY.
YOU KNOW, PROGRESS AND GET THINGS PREPARED.
I MEAN, WE'VE ALL THOUGHT, HEY, OUR STREET LIGHTS OUT.
I FOUGHT WITH THEM FOR EIGHT NINE MONTHS JUST TO GET ONE LIGHT REPAIRED.
IT CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING FOR OUR CITIZENS TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE ALSO WE'RE LOOKING AT FPL TO OWN.
CAN I JUMP BACK IN, MAYOR? I JUST YOU KNOW, WE WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON CAPITALISM, BUT WHEN THERE'S ONLY ONE BIG FISH IN THE STATE, IT'S HARD TO SAY IT'S CAPITALISM.
I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHAT EVERYBODY'S THINKING.
SO, YOU KNOW, ONE PROVIDER AND NOTHING AGAINST THEM.
I GET IT TO STAFF IS WITHIN THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
SO THAT'S THE PERSPECTIVE I WANT TO GIVE TO.
SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT TO SEE IF THAT'S A VIABLE SOLUTION.
SO BASICALLY BACK TO THE DIFFERENT MODELS FOR THE SOLAR STREETLIGHTS.
IF YOU THERE WAS ONE OTHER OPTION.
YOU KNOW, SO WE'RE STILL NOT BELOW THE FPL COST.
SO IT'S KIND OF A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING.
AND THEY CAME BACK WITH, OKAY, WE'LL STILL CHARGE YOU $5 TO MONITOR THEM A MONTH.
IT'S JUST NOT A COST EFFECTIVE AT THIS TIME, UNFORTUNATELY.
OH, TOO FAR. AT LEAST SOLAR ISN'T.
YEAH. OH, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY.
THANK YOU. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET BACK TO MY.
I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY, FRANK.
OKAY. LIKE I SAID, IT'S VERY TIME CONSUMING WORK WITH FPL.
AND IT'S LIKE CONSTANTLY WAIT.
THEY HAVE DELAYS IN THEIR MATERIALS, JUST LIKE ANYBODY WITH CURRENTLY.
WE HAVE LONG LEAD TIMES FOR MATERIALS.
BUT THE PROCESS WORKING ITS DELAY AFTER DELAY.
SO THERE'S LIGHTS ON HARPER AND SOME RANDOM ONES NEAR.
CROSSWALKS IN LOCATIONS LIKE THAT.
AND THEY SAID THE CONTRACTOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BACK OUT WORKING AS OF TWO WEEKS AGO.
BUT WE CHECK UP AND WE CAN'T FIND ANY ADDITIONAL MOVEMENT ON THAT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S ON OUR OWN.
AND WE HAVE A, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO PREVIOUS COUNCIL PREVIOUS I MEAN YOU'RE TALKING.
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AND THEY DECIDED, LET'S PUT WHEN WE HAD THE BAYFRONT REDEVELOPMENT GROUP, THEY MADE A CHOICE TO PUT DECORATIVE STREETLIGHTS ON US ONE.A STANDARD POLES ABOUT $8,000, FURNISHED AND INSTALLED BY A CONTRACTOR FOR YOU.
BLACK DECORATIVE LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE UP THERE.
THAT'S WHEN IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO QUOTE YOU AND GET YOU PARTS.
THE COMPANY THAT WE WERE THEY CHOSE TO GO WITH WAS OUT OF CANADA.
AND. IT'S LIKE YOU TRY TO CONTACT HIM.
FROM THEIR LOCAL REP FROM THE MAIN COMPANY.
SO IT'S LIKE. HEY, WE'RE IN A DEAD END WITH TRYING TO GET REPLACEMENT PARTS, SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS AND OPTIONS TO MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS AND KEEP LIGHTS ON US.
ONE WE CAN GO THE FPL ROUTE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WHERE THERE'S THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE POLES AND PUT LIGHTS ONE AFTER, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ACROSS TO MAINTAIN THE LIGHTS.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER OPTION THAT WE COULD LOOK AT, WHICH WOULD BE TO TAKE SECTIONS OF THOSE LIGHTS, TAKE THEM DOWN AND REPLACE THEM WITH THE STANDARD LIGHT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MODIFICATION IN THE BASE.
MATCH THE POLES GOING SOUTH SO IT COULD CONTINUE THAT LOOK THAT'S NORTH OF R.J.
CONLIN. AND GO THERE AND DO SECTIONS OF THEM AT A TIME.
AND IF YOU REALLY WANT TO, YOU CAN TAKE THOSE LIGHTS THAT YOU REMOVE, PUT THEM WHERE THEY'RE KNOCKED DOWN THAT WE DON'T HAVE CURRENT REPLACEMENT PARTS FOR, AND ACTUALLY FILL IN THE EMPTY SPACES, BUT CHOOSE TO DO A SECTION AT A TIME.
HOW MANY OF THOSE LIGHTS HAVE ARE DOWN NOW OR HAVE BEEN KNOCKED OUT? CURRENTLY WE HAVE PROBABLY A HALF DOZEN THAT ARE KNOCKED DOWN.
YEAH. AND SOME ARE NOT RECORDED WHERE WE I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH IT.
I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE MOST TIMES THEY'RE SUBSTANTIAL.
AND THEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SERIES OF LIGHTS THAT ARE DARK BECAUSE THE POWER, THE ACTUAL.
YOU KNOW, WIRES POWER SUPPLY HAVE BEEN STOLEN.
THEY SOMEONE WE HAD A LOVELY PERSON COME BY AND THEY STEAL OUR POWER OUT OF OUR THINGS.
YOU HAVE OVER 15,000FT OF CONDUCTOR REMOVED.
THOSE. THOSE ARE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS AS YOU SAID.
HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO TRY AND REPLACE SOMETHING AT TWICE THREE TIMES THE COST.
NO. AND SO ARE WE PLANNING TO REPLACE THOSE AND HOW SOON? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO PLAN BECAUSE IT IS A SUBSTANTIAL CLASS.
EVEN IF WE GO WITH $8,000 IN THE PLAN OF EVEN IF WE REDO THEM, TEN OF THEM, THAT'S $80,000.
COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON AND DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER IT.
YOU COULD ACTUALLY TELL HOW THAT CORRIDOR IS GETTING MORE AND MORE DANGEROUS.
DANGEROUS BY THE LESS LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE.
I NEVER KNEW THAT IT WOULD COST THAT MUCH, AND IT'S SO DIFFICULT TO REPLACE.
SO I THINK THE THE PRUDENT THING AND THE PRUDENT THING FOR ALL OF US TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF IS THE REPLACEMENT HAS GOT TO BE THE MORE STANDARD REPLACEMENT TO GET THESE LIGHTS UP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU. SO, MA'AM I, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD YOU YOU BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE I GOT TO TELL YOU, I DRIVE THAT CORRIDOR AND IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT. IT'S GETTING WORSE.
I I'VE ACTUALLY DRIVEN WITH PD THERE'S LESS LIGHTS OUT THERE AND AND FOR THEM TO TRACK.
SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE REGULAR DRIVER AND, YOU KNOW, TO BE DRIVING OUT SO DARK.
SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP, BROTHER, BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA THAT IT COST THREE TIMES AS MUCH.
IT IS NOT A STANDARD LIGHT I CAN GET FOR 785 BUCKS.
IT IS DECEPTIVE BECAUSE IT'S SMALLER, IT'S A LITTLE MORE QUAINT.
SO. BUT YEAH, THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
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WAS UNDERSTOOD.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE? NO. NO QUESTIONS FROM ME.
I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU FOR HIGHLIGHTING THOSE LIGHTS.
OR I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE ON, BUT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ON THE SAME ISSUE OF LIGHTING AND THE SIDEWALK, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, US ONE NEXT YEAR HAS A ROAD REHAB THAT'S GOING TO REPAY THAT SECTION.
THE ENTIRE SECTION WITHIN PALM BAY.
I TRIED TO GET THE LIGHTING AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
THEY'LL IMPROVE SIDEWALKS AND IMPROVE LIGHTING.
FDOT IS GETTING CHALLENGED MORE AND MORE.
FINALLY THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADD THE EXTRA LIGHTING.
AND NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY BARELY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THE ROAD PAVING.
SO THAT'S ONE THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO.
WE TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN FIT IT IN AS PART OF THE COST.
SO I'LL FIND OUT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
BUT THEY SAID THEY'LL LOOK AT ADDING THAT AS PART OF THEIR OVERALL REHAB PROJECT FOR US.
ONE. SO THAT'S AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON FOR US.
AND THEN TO HIGHLIGHT THE SIDEWALKS I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS.
SIDEWALK IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER BIG PUSH FOR ME.
WE'RE WAY BEHIND ON SIDEWALKS.
WE HAVE OLD COMPOUND THAT'S SHOWN ON HERE, WHICH WHICH WAS A SIDEWALK INVENTORY MAP, 2010.
WHICH WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL COMP PLAN.
HERE'S ALL THE SIDEWALK WE HAVE AND HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE.
AND SO WE DO HAVE SIDEWALKS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
MAJORITY OF OUR TRAIL SYSTEMS, WE'RE VERY SHORT.
WE ONLY HAVE THE MAJOR TRAIL THAT'S ALONG MALABAR ROAD ALONG THE C20.
WE HAD THE BOUNDARY CANAL TRAIL, WHICH IS COACH CO TIED WITH THE TOWN OF ATTLEBORO.
SO WE NEED TO GET SOME OF OUR TRAILS.
THE VERY FIRST ONE I'M GOING TO PUSH IS OUR CROSS CITY TRAIL AND GET THAT FUNDED THROUGH REGIONAL MONEY, BECAUSE IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET SOME OF THE REGIONAL SIDEWALK CONTROLS MONEY. AND SO I'M GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP AT THE TPO AGAIN.
BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT FEATURE WE WANT TO LOOK AT ALSO IS OUR SIDEWALK AND CONCRETE.
VERY EXPENSIVE. YOU KNOW AN OPPORTUNITY TO START LOOKING AT IS MAYBE LOOKING AT ASPHALT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IS ASPHALT OR MILLINGS OR IS IT, YOU KNOW, ADA ACCEPTABLE THIS, YOU KNOW, ADA STANDARDS.
IT DOESN'T SAY SIDEWALK SHALL BE ASPHALT.
ALL IT SAYS IS IT HAS TO BE FIRM, STABLE SLIP RESISTANCE.
IF YOU MEET THOSE THREE REQUIREMENTS YOU MEET THE ADA SURFACE.
AND MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE IN SOME OF THE AREAS.
AND VALENTINA KNOWS IS IN SUZANNE NOSES.
IT'S LOWER THAN THE ROAD. IT'S LOWER THAN THIS.
SO EVERY TIME IT RAINS, IT'S A POND.
ONE WAY TO PUT THE ASPHALT RIGHT ON TOP OF THAT CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, AND RAISE THAT SUCKER UP.
SO WE HAVE A NICE SMOOTH ASPHALT SIDEWALK, I'M SAYING.
AND SIDEWALK DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CONCRETE.
SO THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN BE LOOKING AT.
AND WHERE CAN WE PUT IN SIDEWALKS.
YEAH. MISSING JUST PAST WINN-DIXIE.
YOU GOT A BIG PIECE OF SIDEWALKS MISSING BIG PIECE OF SIDEWALK MISSING.
YOU KNOW, SIDEWALK ONLY WORKS IF IT'S CONTINUOUS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND WE NEED TO WORK WITH OUR TRANSIT AGENCIES TO.
THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING WITH US BECAUSE AS THEY WANT TO EXPAND AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRANSIT SERVICES, THEY HAVE TO BUY CONDUCTIVITY FOR ADA SERVICES, BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS IF YOU HAVE A BUS STOP AND IF YOU LET OUR ADA PERSON, IF THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, HE OR SHE SHALL USE THE ROADWAY.
AND THAT GOES BACK WITH THAT ROADWAY, YOU KNOW, FATALITY WITH THE PEDESTRIANS AGAIN.
WHAT IS THE COST? DO YOU HAVE IT? YOU KNOW, ASPHALT VERSUS CONCRETE WHEN IT COMES TO PEDWAYS?
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DO YOU HAVE LIKE AN IDEA? I DON'T HAVE THE CURRENT NUMBERS, BUT IT'S A CONCRETE IS WAY MORE EXPENSIVE THAN ASPHALT.RECENTLY IT WAS EVEN MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE BECAUSE CONCRETE WAS VERY CHALLENGING TO GET.
IT WAS ONLY TWO COMPANIES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT HAD THE ROCK.
BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW THE CONCRETE IS BACK IN PLENTIFUL MODE.
SO IS ASPHALT. IT'S IN PLENTIFUL MODE AGAIN.
SO I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE THE GAS COSTS, YOU KNOW, JUST IT'S CYCLICAL.
IT'S GOING TO COME BACK AROUND.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT PROVIDING WALKABILITY.
THAT'S BETTER THAN HAVING GRASS AND DIRT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO BE PUSHING FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN, THIS IS A LIST THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
SO NUMBER ONE ON THE LIST IS ELDERON.
WE HAVE THAT PROJECT IN DESIGN.
IT'S AND THEN THE REST OF LIST ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 12 IS ON THE LIST.
SEVEN IN THE MIDDLE IS A CROSS CITY TRAIL.
THAT'S GOING TO BE MY PET PEEVE BECAUSE THAT'S THE LARGEST ONE IS A TRAIL SYSTEM.
I WANT THAT SYSTEM THAT CUTS ALL OF OUR ACROSS OUR CITY.
THE BASS. I WANT THAT FUNDED THROUGH REGIONAL TPO FUNDS THAT WE NEED TO GET OUR TRAILS FUNDED, AND WE NEED TO GET IT FUNDED FROM A REGIONAL STANDPOINT BECAUSE THE NORTH GOT THEIRS DONE. THE GREEN TRAIL SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO PUSH FOR OURS, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO START TALKING TO OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, THEY SAID, WE'LL CONNECT US WITH THEM AND MAYBE DO A JOINT VENTURE.
I LOVE TO WALK OR TAKE MY BIKE IF WE HAVE A REGIONAL CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO.
SO MAYBE WE NEED TO START TALKING WITH INDIAN RIVER COUNTY BECAUSE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THEM ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION, BECAUSE WE KNOW AS MUCH AS THE GREEN TRAIL IS UP IN TITUSVILLE, THAT'S UP THERE IN TITUSVILLE.
SO BREVARD COUNTY IS SUCH A LARGE COUNTY THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM A TRAIL STANDPOINT, I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS WITHIN THE SOUTHERN PART OF BREVARD COUNTY AND STAY FOCUSED WITH MAYBE JUST OURSELVES AND MAYBE EVEN MAYBE MELBOURNE AND WEST MELBOURNE, BUT DEFINITELY TOWN OF MALABAR AND DEFINITELY TOWN OF GRANT-VALKARIA.
YOU HAVE TO BE LAPSED, CERTIFIED, AND YOUR CITY IS LAPSED CERTIFIED.
WE'RE ONLY ONE OF FEW CITIES, US AND MELBOURNE.
THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW IS NOT LAP CERTIFIED.
SO YOU GET FEDERAL DOLLARS, YOU'VE GOT TO BE LAPSED CERTIFIED.
AND THAT'S MOST CITIES ARE NOT LAP CERTIFIED.
SO THAT'S ONE BIG ISSUE REGARDING FEDERALISM.
YOU'VE GOT TO BE LAPSED CERTIFIED.
AND IN THIS CITY IS SO VERY FORTUNATE.
SO MAYBE WE CAN WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORING TOWNS TO LEVERAGE, TO WORK TOGETHER, TO GET THEM TO MAKE SURE WE ALL WORK TOGETHER TO GET THAT REGIONAL FUNDING DOWN HERE TO SOUTH BREVARD. SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO FOCUS ON CONTINUING ON.
OUR TREES AND LANDSCAPING ON OUR ROADWAYS.
AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE, OUR ROADWAYS COULD USE TREES AND LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE VERY FARTHEST RIGHT, SORRY, LEFT PICTURE.
THAT WAS A RENDERING I DID WHEN I WAS IN THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN.
BUT WE USE A SABAL PALMS, NATURAL VEGETATION THAT'S IN THEM.
AND THEN WE ALSO THEN ENHANCE US.
ONE WE PUT IN, WE PAINTED PARKING WITH STAMP.
WE PAINTED. AND IF YOU GO UP THERE, THEY JUST RECENTLY WE DID IT AGAIN.
IF YOU GO UP TO SEBASTIAN, THEY JUST RECENTLY WE DID A LOT OF IT AGAIN FABULOUS.
WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THAT FOR OUR BAYSIDE AREA.
AND IF YOU GO TO SEBASTIAN IN THE DOWNTOWN SECTION THROUGH THERE, US ONE, IT'S 35MPH.
WE WERE TOLD, NO WAY THAT'S GOING TO EVER HAPPEN.
ME AND AL MILLER WENT THERE AND WE STARTED SHOWING THEM, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
WE WANT TO WE'RE GOING TO INVEST IN THIS.
WE'LL TAKE OVER THE LANDSCAPING.
WE'LL DO ALL THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE THIS A BUSINESS CORRIDOR.
AND GUESS WHAT? THEY GAVE US A 35MPH.
AND THEN WE TOOK IT UPON OURSELVES AND WE WERE IN SEBASTIAN.
WE MADE IT LOOK LIKE THAT PHOTOGRAPH.
IF YOU GO DOWN THERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT.
WE WANT WE WANT TO DO THIS TO OUR ROADWAYS, TO TO OUR US.
ONE CORRIDOR AS DEVELOPMENT COMES IN.
BAM DEVELOPMENT CAME RIGHT BEHIND IT THE MOMENT WE DID THE ROAD WORK.
AND THE ROADS ARE LOOKING GREAT IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.
THE BUSINESS CAME IN AND IN HORDES.
AND WHEN I FIRST STARTED THERE, IT WAS DEAD.
THERE WAS NO MULLIGANS, THERE WAS NO TRUST ME, NO ONE WAS THERE.
BUT TODAY YOU GO DOWN, THERE'S THE LITTLE, THE MICROBREWERIES.
YOU GOT ALL THESE NICE LITTLE QUAINT PLACES, NICE SIDEWALKS.
YOU PUT A NICE EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK UP AND DOWN.
WE PUT IN SOME PUBLIC BATHROOMS. WE DO THE SAME THING HERE IN PALM BAY.
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ZERO LANDSCAPING, NATURAL VEGETATION.SO I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT SOME AREAS OF TREES AND LANDSCAPING LAST TIME WHEN WE GET INTO BEFORE THE QUIET ZONES IS OUR TRAFFIC CALMING, YOU KNOW SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PAVING A LOT OF OUR STREETS, 400 MILES OF PAVED.
AND WE GET I GET A CALL A WEEK, YOU GUYS, FOR TRAFFIC CALMING AND AND THEY'RE CORRECT.
AND I DON'T WANT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE CHALLENGED.
YOU KNOW I'M SAYING IT'S HARD FOR THEM YOU KNOW AND THEY HE SHOULD GET DOUBLE THE TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THAT HE NEEDS BECAUSE WE HAVE SERIOUS TRAFFIC ISSUES ON OUR LOCAL STREETS. WE REALLY DO.
BUT WE NEED TO START REALLY FOCUSING AND GETTING A PLAN BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP.
AND THE PEOPLE ARE VERY UNHAPPY IN OUR LOCAL RESIDENTIAL.
I'M JUST BECAUSE I'M OUT THERE ALL THE TIME AND THEY THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, BUT THEIR HOME IS THEIR HOME, AND THEY'RE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WALK ON THE STREET. AND I ALWAYS TELL THEM IT'S A STREET, SO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THIS.
I WANT MY KIDS TO PLAY IN THE STREET.
THEY SHOULDN'T BE PLAYING ON THE STREET.
YES, SIR. YOU JUST SAID A LOT I USE WE'RE ALL FROM.
I IF I WAS A CHILD NOW, I RODE MY BIKE EVERYWHERE.
NOW AS I'M DRIVING, I WAS LIKE, THERE'S NO WAY I COULD BE A KID NOW.
WE WANT OUR KIDS TO GO OUTSIDE.
YEAH. AND TO THAT POINT I WROTE A QUESTION.
AND IT'S PROBABLY MORE SO FOR BOTH CHIEFS.
ARE WE SEEING THAT MOST OF THESE DRIVERS OR A FAIR SHARE OF THESE DRIVERS ARE DISTRACTED DRIVERS, CELL PHONES OR SOME SORT OF DISTRACTION? YES, BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A FAIR POINT.
WE'RE DOING ALL THESE THINGS TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW.
I WAS LOOKING AT A MORATORIUM FOR CAR WASHES, BUT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO THIS CAR WASHES.
WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO DO ALL THE THINGS WE CAN AS A CITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF VISION ZERO PEOPLE ZEROING IN AND PRIORITIZING, DRIVING OVER A DISTRACTION. SO AND A LOT OF IT COMES AS, YOU KNOW, I THINK ENFORCEMENT, EDUCATION, SOME PHYSICAL DETERRENCE ON THE ROADWAY.
AND THAT'S I WANT TO BRING UP THIS NEXT SLIDE.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE THEY CALL SPEED HUMPS.
AND I DON'T SUPPORT SPEED HUMPS.
AND THE DIAGRAM SHOWS SPEED BUMPS.
YOU SEE THEM IN COMMERCIAL SHOPPING CENTERS.
NO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON PUBLIC ROADWAYS.
SPEED HUMPS ARE THE MORE SHALLOW UNDULATIONS.
THEN THEY SLOW VEHICLES DOWN, SO THEY SLOW OUR FIRE ENGINES.
THEY'RE SLOW OUR POLICE VEHICLES.
AND THEN THE SPEED TABLES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LARGER THROUGH INTERSECTIONS.
HOWEVER, THE NEW ONES FOR, FOR PALM BAY IS WHAT THEY CALL SPEED CUSHIONS.
AND I'VE DESIGNED, I'VE INSTALLED SPEED CUSHIONS.
RECYCLED RUBBER. THEY'RE IN PATCHES.
YOU BOLT THEM DOWN TO THE GROUND.
AND THE BEST PART ABOUT IT IS A FIRE UNIT CAN STRADDLE IT.
THE BEST THING IS THEY'RE THEY'RE RECYCLED RUBBER.
SO HEY WE'RE USING RECYCLED MATERIAL.
AND THE ONES I'VE INSTALLED, IF YOU BUY THE TOP VERSION ONE, IT'S NOT THE CHEAP ONES.
THEY LAST A LOT LONGER ON THE PAINT.
DON'T WEAR OFF. YOU COULD YOU COULD ACTUALLY HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE DID WAS WE HIGHLIGHTED THE PERIMETER.
SO THEY STAND OUT. SO THEY MAKE THEM EVEN LOOK NICER.
THEY DO SLOW DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE IN THE ROADWAY.
BUT THE REGULAR CAR HAS TO HIT ONE OF THE SPEED CUSHIONS.
AND IT CAME AT THE LAST ONE OF THE LAST DEVELOPER PROJECTS.
IT WAS FOR ONE OF THE TOWNHOUSES OUT THERE BY PALM BAY COLONY.
THEY WANTED TO PUT THE SPEED CUSHIONS ON INGERSOLL.
SO. AND THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW AS A DEMONSTRATION PART.
LET THEM PAY FOR IT. LET'S TEST IT OUT.
AND IF IT WORKS, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO THE NEXT CORRIDOR WOULD BE MEADOWBROOK.
SOON AFTER WE PAID MEADOWBROOK.
INSTALL THESE SPEED CUSHIONS WITH A FEW OTHER DEVICES, AND LET'S SEE IF THAT WILL SLOW IT DOWN.
IN THE PAST, IT HAS THE ONES I'VE INSTALLED.
THEY'VE DROPPED DOWN THE SPEED.
YOU HAVE TO PUT THEM IN SERIES.
BUT AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WHY A GOOD MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEEDING UP AND DOWN THE ROAD GUESS WHO THEY WERE?
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THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE.AND YOU JOKE ABOUT THIS, BUT IT IS BUT THERE IS A GOOD PORTION OF IT BACK ON MEADOWBROOK.
IT IS CUT THROUGH. AND SO WE KNOW ABOUT THIS.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT.
TRAFFIC CALMING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING FOR THE LOCAL RESIDENTS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR MORE OF THEM COME AS WE CONTINUE ON.
AND SO THERE'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE, AND IT'S IN A WORKING PROGRAM SO WE DON'T FALL BEHIND, I HATE TO SAY LIKE LIKE A PINEAPPLE COUPLE WERE BEHIND. LET'S GET AHEAD OF IT THIS TIME.
BECAUSE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
I GET A CALL A WEEK FOR DIFFERENT STREETS.
AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN.
SO THAT WAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HAPPY RESIDENTS COMING IN HERE SAYING WE SUPPORT THIS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE EVERYBODY LIKE HIM, ESPECIALLY THESE SPEED CUSHIONS, THE SPEED BUMPS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET PEOPLE IN HERE SAYING, I DON'T WANT THEM MAJORITY WISE.
MY ISSUE IS THE ROAD IS SAFER.
THAT'S THE ISSUE. THE ROAD IS SAFER.
AND WITH THAT, I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE VERY LAST ISSUE QUIET ZONES.
WE KNOW IT. BRIGHT LINES HERE.
NO STATION. HOWEVER, THE TRAINS AND THE NOISE IS AN ISSUE.
I KNOW RECENTLY IT'S BEEN QUIET, BUT WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED 32 TRAINS UP AND DOWN THE TRACKS, I HAD A LOT OF CALLS SAYING, WHY CAN WE DO SOMETHING TO STOP THE HORNS? AND AS YOU CAN, IT'S CALLED A QUIET ZONE.
THE FEDERAL RAIL ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS YOU TO ESTABLISH WHAT THEY CALL A QUIET ZONE.
IT'S ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE LOCAL CITIES.
AND WHAT IT IS, IS AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A CORRIDOR THAT'S MORE THAN HALF A MILE.
AND WE HAVE WE HAVE THREE CROSSINGS.
WE HAVE HESSEA, PALM BAY ROAD AND PORT MALABAR.
AND WE COULD THEN WHAT WE CALL DO SUBMIT A NOTICE OF INTENT.
AND ONCE WE SUBMIT A NOTICE OF INTENT, WE HAVE 60 DAYS.
WE HAVE A FIELD DIAGNOSTIC WITH THE RAIL AGENCIES, WHICH WOULD BE FEC AND BRIGHTLINE.
AND WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS FUNCTIONING FINE.
SO OVERALL, WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
I'VE ALREADY TALKED AND MET WITH OUR FEDERAL RAIL AVIATION INSPECTOR.
HE SAYS THAT WE MEET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS.
I'VE ALREADY AROUND THE WHAT THEY CALL IT A QUIET ZONE CALCULATOR.
SO ALL WE DO THEN IS IF WE WANT TO DO THIS, MOVE FORWARD, DO THE NOTICE OF INTENT.
60 DAYS AFTER THAT, 60 DAYS AFTER THAT, WE FILE A NOTICE OF ESTABLISHMENT.
WE HAVE A QUIET ZONE. THAT'S HOW IT IS.
BUT THE RISK IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE.
YOU KNOW, COMING FROM A PERSON OF ROADS, IT'S OUR ROAD.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE ONES LOOKED AT AT THE END.
BUT IS IT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT SAFER? I THINK FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, YOU DON'T WANT THOSE TRAINS, 32 TRAINS, TOOTING THEIR HORNS.
AND WHEN THE WHEN THE BRIGHTLINE COMES, IT DOES MAKE IT A DIFFICULT TIME EATING A MEAL.
THEY HAVE TWO TRACKS, THEY HAVE MALABAR ROAD, THEY HAVE JORDAN AND I RAN THEIR NUMBERS.
SO WE COULD DO FIVE BECAUSE THE MORE YOU HAVE IT, THE MORE LIKELY YOU HAVE A GOOD QUIET ZONE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO ALL THE WAY UP, YOU KNOW, MELBOURNE AND CUCKOO, LET'S DO THE SOUTHERN HALF.
YEAH. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT, MR. WATANABE. I'VE HAD EMAILS FROM RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THE PORT MALABAR SECTION, AND I THINK I'VE SHARED THEM WITH.
WITH YOU, MR. WATANABE, WHERE THEIR THEIR THEIR REQUEST WOULD BE FOR US TO GO DOWN THIS LANE FOR US TO TO REALLY MAKE IT A QUIET ZONE.
IF WE GO FROM THE BEGINNING OF PALM BAY UP BY HESS ALL THE WAY SOUTH.
SO I THINK I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE SUGGESTION.
NOW, PART OF THAT DISCUSSION HAS TO BE HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK? AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY DID DO ALL THE UPGRADES TO BRING IN BRIGHTLINE NOW.
BUT LOOKING AT THIS DOWNRANGE, WHAT TYPE OF EXPENSE ARE WE LOOKING AT WITH THE MAINTENANCE, THE MAINTENANCE COSTS WE'RE ALREADY ABSORBING? I HATE TO SAY THIS. YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH FEC BECAUSE THEY WERE THERE FIRST.
AND SO WE WE ARE ACTUALLY INTRUDING ONTO THEIR TRACKS.
SO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN, AND WE'RE TIED TO THAT AGREEMENT.
AND I'M TRYING TO WORK WHEN VALENTINO IS TRYING TO HELP ME OUT.
WE'RE TRYING TO TRYING TO GET INTO A LARGER SCALE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT WAY WE DON'T GET THIS HUGE HIT EVERY YEAR.
NOW YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 32 TRAINS BEATING ON THOSE TRACKS.
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YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO WEAR OUT QUICKER.AND SO WE NEED TO START HITTING BRIGHTLINE.
AND I'VE ALREADY STARTED EARLY DISCUSSION WITH BRIGHTLINE SAYS, HEY, HOW ABOUT WORKING WITH US? YOU MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH CITY OF COCOA AND I GOT THAT ONE.
YOU MADE AN AGREEMENT WITH BREVARD COUNTY.
I GOT THAT ONE. HOW ABOUT GIVING US THE SAME DEAL? YEAH. AND SO AND THAT'S JUST TO MAINTAIN THE TRACK, THE QUIET ZONES, BASED ON MY EARLY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE FEDERAL RAIL ADMINISTRATION, BECAUSE BRIGHTLINE HAS ALREADY PAID FOR ALL THE SUPPLEMENTAL SAFETY MEASURES, WE MAY HAVE TO ADD MAYBE A FEW MORE SIGNS.
THAT'S ABOUT IT. THE HEAVY STUFF THEY'VE ALREADY DONE.
SO FROM FROM A FROM A RESIDENT STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE.
HOWEVER, IT'S NOT A SEAL CORRIDOR.
A SEAL CORRIDOR IS WHEN YOU PUT UP THE FENCING AND ALL THAT STUFF, WHICH IT'S A LOT OF SECTIONS ALONG RECENTLY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT BECAUSE YOU SEE NOW WE HAD THE EIGHTH INCIDENT UP IN MELBOURNE.
YEAH. SO IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
THEY NEED TO START LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE INCIDENTS DOWN IN BROWARD COUNTY.
THEY HAD AREAS WHERE THEY HAD SO MANY ACCIDENTS.
THEY HAD PUT SEAL, BASICALLY FENCING.
BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE JUST WANTED TO KEEP CROSSING THE TRACKS AND SO MANY INCIDENTS HAPPENING THAT EVENTUALLY THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY CALL IT SEAL CORRIDOR, BASICALLY JUST FENCING ALL THE WAY DOWN.
YEAH, AND WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
BUT WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A QUIET SOUND.
I LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT QUIET ZONE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.
AND GETTING THE TOWN OF MALABAR INVOLVED WITH THIS, I THINK, IS IMPORTANT.
I THINK THERE IN MY DISCUSSIONS, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US FOR THE TRAILS.
THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US FOR IMPROVING MALABAR ROAD.
THEY HELPED US GIVE US A LETTER OF ENDORSEMENT IN TERMS OF WHEN WE WANT FOR THE MALABAR I-95.
THEY HAVE A SMALL TOWN. THEY DON'T WANT THEIR TRAINS BEING TOOTED DOWN, YOU KNOW, 32 TIMES A DAY.
SO I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. WATANABE. I'M GOING TO I TEND TO FORGET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A VISUAL, BUT COUNCILWOMAN FOSTER DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE? NO, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ROAD STRIPING.
YES, SIR. I DON'T THINK THEY MENTIONED THAT IN THE PRESENTATION.
YELLOW LINE AND WHITE LINE REFLECTORS IN THE ROADS.
OKAY. WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE WE PAID IN THE ROBES.
CAN THEY TALK ON THAT? COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN.
BUT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DIRECT WHAT? THE QUESTION DIRECTLY? BECAUSE HE SAID HE'S STANDING AT THE AT THE LECTERN RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S THE PROGRAM? DO YOU HAVE A PROGRAM OR A PLAN TO RESTRIPE THE ROADS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? OR TO ADD MORE, MORE STRIPING AND TURN LANES, STOP STOP SIGNS ON THE ROAD? REFLECTORS.
I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION.
COUNCILWOMAN. FOSTER IF I MAY.
WELL, FRANK DID AND IT WAS VERY HIGH LEVEL.
IF YOU I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE PRESENTATION, BUT THERE'S A SLIDE THAT REFERENCE TO CALMING ENHANCING MEASURES, THOSE.
AND, YOU KNOW PART OF WHAT, WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT, IN FACT YOU KNOW I THINK IT COVERS THAT.
YEAH. TO SOME. YEAH. TRAFFIC CALMING, SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.
SO THOSE INCLUDES EVERYTHING YOU JUST LISTED.
THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT.
THAT'S WHAT FRANK IS SUGGESTING.
AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, I USUALLY REFER TO GARNER AND I KNOW YES.
MASTER CHIEF BATTEN WOULD WOULD CONCUR TO THAT.
AND, AND I CAN TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE THAT MADE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TRAVEL THAT BECAUSE MY EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR, IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE THE DIFFERENCE I FOUND MYSELF.
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BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVEMENT.AND YOU KNOW, MR. BATTEN IS LAUGHING AND IT'S THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.
JUST THE SIMPLE IMPROVEMENT STRIPING THE ROAD, THE REFLECTORS.
JUST TRULY IT JUST CHANGED MY BEHAVIOR AS SOMEBODY THAT TRAVELED THAT ROAD ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SO, SO AND FOR THE RECORD, ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS PLEASE UNDERSTAND.
SO WITHIN STILL WITHIN STILL WITHIN THE SPEED LIMIT.
SO I'VE ALWAYS CONSCIOUS OF THAT.
AND WE MAY WANT TO LOOK AT OTHER CORRIDORS THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT FROM OKAY.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. A NARROWER FIELD.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE PROBABLY ON THE MIKE.
SO YOU PROBABLY SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S WIDE OPEN.
SO IS YOUR FOOT GOING DOWN ON THAT.
YEAH. SO BUT AS FOR THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE ROADS OF FOR FUTURE AFTER WE DO THE ROAD PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THAT PROCESS AT THE END OF HOW WE MAINTAIN THAT STRIPING AND KEEP IT UP.
COPY THAT. I THINK COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS? YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP OFF OF HIS QUESTION.
I THINK YOU PARTIALLY ANSWERED IT.
AND IF THEY'RE GOING OVER A STRIPED ROAD, IS IT ON THEM TO RESTRIPE OR IS IT ON US? IT'S AS OF THE WHEN, AS I UNDERSTAND THE ROAD PROGRAM PROJECTS, THAT STRIPING IS INCLUDED.
YEAH. OKAY. BUT IN THE FUTURE, AS WE AS IT AGES, WE'LL NEED TO LOOK AT THE MAINTENANCE I GOT YOU.
OKAY. ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. I GUESS I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY.
AND I DID ASK SEVERAL QUESTIONS.
I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF ITS MR. WANNABE. I MEAN, THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING IT'S FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND I KNOW THE CITY MANAGER'S.
I'VE ALWAYS SHARED ABOUT EVEN BREVARD COUNTY.
AND THEY'RE BUILDING A FACILITY.
WHERE IS IT OFF OF PIONEER? I THINK IT IS NOW.
AND AND THEY'RE INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY IN THAT.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE BEHIND THE TIMES, I DO AGREE.
I THINK THIS IS AN INITIATIVE THAT WE COULD MOVE TRAFFIC.
WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF COST.
AND IN PARTICULAR, HE'S MENTIONED ALL THESE CORRIDORS.
SO I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF THAT.
COUNCIL. THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON THAT IN THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
THE LEFT TURN LANES THAT THAT'S THOSE ARE THAT'S LOW HANGING FRUIT IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL.
RIGHT. ALONG THE SAN FILIPPO CORRIDOR.
I THINK I'M GLAD THAT IT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS AND THAT YOU'RE ALREADY ENGINEERING THAT I WANTED.
ALSO, GENTLEMEN, HIGHLIGHT THE CONTINUED EFFORT OF OUR TPO PRESENCE.
MOREOVER I-95, ALTHOUGH WE DID HAVE GREAT RESULTS, I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT WE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME I WANTED IT YESTERDAY.
AND I'VE PUBLICLY DIRECTED THAT TO THE DISTRICT FIVE SECRETARY OF FDOT.
I HAVE SUGGESTED ALSO THAT WE SOMEHOW REACHED OUT TO FP OR TO FHP FOR A DETERRENT, BECAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON 95, AND I'M GOING TO SAY THIS AGAIN, AND I THINK WE'RE SUPPOSED TO SEND A LETTER YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE BACKING UP. I KNOW YOU AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS, BROTHER.
YOU GOT PEOPLE BACKING UP AND IT'S WAY BACKED UP TO EVEN THE BRIDGE.
RIGHT. JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU THAT, THAT VISUAL.
AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHER PEOPLE JUST CUTTING PEOPLE OFF RIGHT AT THAT TURN.
IT'S EITHER THEY GO STRAIGHT DOWN TO SAINT JOHN'S.
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SO PERHAPS IT'S NOT A SOLVABLE.BUT PERHAPS IF WE HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENT, A FHP PATROLMAN OUT THERE, A STATE TROOPERS, HOW THEY'RE REFERRED TO, MAYBE THAT COULD DETER SOME OF THOSE BEHAVIORS.
AND AND THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN SO FEVERISHLY ON THE FDOT INDIVIDUALS.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE ANOTHER LIFE.
I, I WISH WE'D ALREADY GET THAT STUDY DONE.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT WILL BE THIS FISCAL YEAR CORRECT THAT THERE JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, MARY, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS GREAT, BUT YOU I THINK YOU AND YOUR THE COUNSELOR HERE HAS, HAS, HAS WOKEN UP FDOT.
JUST A SIDE NOTE, I AM WORKING WITH FDOT AND THEIR OPERATIONS STAFF, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE ALAN.
WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION.
AT OUR INTERSECTION AND PEOPLE, IT'S A UNIQUE FEATURE THAT SIGNAL TIMING CAN HAPPEN.
WE LOOKED AT THE THE VIDEOS OF THE INTERCHANGE AND SAN FILIPPO.
AND SO WE DO HAVE SOME EXTRA GREEN TIME.
WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND I NEED TO WORK WITH FDOT, AND I'M TRYING TO GET THE GAME PLAN GOING.
I HOPE TO DO IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
IT'S WHAT THEY CALL CYCLING TWICE THE LEFT TURN.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THIS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT.
THIS IS A MODIFICATION TO OUR CONTROLLER.
FDOT WILL RETIME THE INTERCHANGE AND SAN FILIPPO.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WOULD BE THE LEFT TURN WILL COME ON.
BUT BEFORE IT GOES BACK TO THE OTHER PHASES, IF THERE'S AND THERE'S GREEN TIME, WE'VE WE'VE ALREADY SHOWN OUR ENGINEERS HAVE SHOWN WITH FDOT THERE'S SUFFICIENT REMAINING GREEN TIME BEFORE IT GETS OUT THAT THE LEFT TURN WILL COME BACK ON AGAIN.
DOUBLE CYCLING. SO SO WHEN THE PEOPLE START REALIZING THAT IT'LL BE A SHOCK FOR US BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE GREEN LINE AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE RED LIGHT AND THEY'RE GOING TO SIT THERE AND THEN SEE THE GREEN LIGHT AGAIN, THE GREEN ARROWS.
AND THAT COULD PUSH ANOTHER 30 MORE CARS THAT WILL START HELPING OUT.
YEAH. SO RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, RIGHT.
THEY'RE VEHICLES THAT CAN MAKE WHERE ON MALABAR ROAD WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS SAN FILIPPO.
THEY'RE VEHICLES THAT WILL THAT ARE ON THAT LEFT TURN LANE.
AND THEN THEY GO INTO LOWE'S WITH YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING EXPERTISE HAT ON.
IF THAT WAS SHUT DOWN, WOULD IT IMPROVE THE CORRIDOR.
IS THAT IS THAT A YES? YES. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF OUR BUSINESSES.
AND SAME TIME, THE RAMPS DON'T CARRY ENOUGH CAPACITY.
AND THEN WE HAVE SAN FILIPPO, WHICH IS ONLY 900FT AWAY, CAUSES ANOTHER PROBLEM.
SO THE THE IDEAL ISSUE FOR THAT TIGHT DIAMOND WOULD BE TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WHERE I CAME FROM.
THEY GOT RID OF THE TIGHT DIAMONDS.
THEY, THEY CALL THAT A SINGLE POINT INTERCHANGE.
CALIFORNIA GOT RID OF MOST OF THEIR TIGHT DIAMONDS.
THEY CALL THEM SINGLE POINT DIAMONDS.
I'VE SEEN THEM IN OTHER STATES AS WELL.
VERY EFFICIENT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF SAMPLE BEING SO CLOSE.
AND THOSE DRIVEWAYS INTO MCDONALD'S INTO, YOU KNOW, THE ROADHOUSE INTO LOWE'S.
SO WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO LOOK AT THAT CORRIDOR TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR NOT JUST FOR OURSELVES AND MAYBE FOR THOSE BUSINESSES, MAYBE A SIDE STREET, MAYBE A BETTER CIRCULATION POINT.
SO THAT WAY, MALABAR, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS JUST A CORRIDOR FOR MALABAR.
YOU COULD SAY. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THOSE DRIVEWAYS, ESPECIALLY THE ONE RIGHT THERE BY THE BURGER KINGS AND THE ONE RIGHT ACROSS FROM MCDONALD'S, THEY'RE TOO CLOSE TO THE INTERCHANGE. BUT THAT'S HOW IT WAS WHEN ESTABLISHED ITSELF.
AND THAT SEGMENT IS YOU'RE REACHING MAXIMUM CAPACITY YOUR FREEWAY.
YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS MAXED OUT.
AND SO THE PDA STATE IS GOING TO LOOK AT MODIFYING THAT INTERCHANGE, THAT WHOLE INTERCHANGE.
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INTERCHANGE. OH YES IT WILL.AND MAYBE THE ISSUE WOULD BE MAYBE NOT A TIGHT DIAMOND.
MAYBE THEY'LL CREATE A BYPASS AND MAYBE THE THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES OFF OF THE, I HATE TO SAY, THE SOUTHBOUND OFF OF MALABAR ROAD, MAYBE IT BYPASS IT AND MAYBE IT COMES OFF OVER THERE BY COLLEGE COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND MAYBE THEY CREATE A NEW SOMETHING FURTHER DOWN.
A LOT OF URBANIZED CITIES DO THAT BECAUSE THE INTERCHANGE GOT SO CROWDED.
THEY MOVED ONE OF THE OFF AND ON RAMPS FARTHER DOWN.
COPY THAT. JUST SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION.
SO IT SPREADS OUT TO THE STUDIO, REVEALED THAT.
AND THEY DO THAT. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE CITY I CAN'T COPY THAT.
THAT'S BUT THAT'S IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO LOOK AT TODAY.
WHAT CAN WE DO TODAY. WHAT CAN WE DO NOW.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH.
THESE SIGNAL TIMINGS AN OPPORTUNITY MAYBE AN FTA HAS IT ON.
ONE OF THOSE OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IS TO CLOSE THAT LEFT TURN LANE.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, RIGHT, THAT WITH THESE DOUBLE DOUBLE SIGNAL, DOUBLE CYCLE, DOUBLE CYCLE THE BACKUP ON 95 WILL BE ALLEVIATED.
IT'LL HELP BECAUSE WHAT'S GOING TO IT? ALLOW MORE CARS MAKING THAT LEFT TURN TO GET OUT AND TURN AND GET OUT OF THERE.
THAT MEANS THERE'LL BE THAT MUCH MORE LEFT.
THAT'S TRUE. OKAY, OFF THE FREEWAY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO QUEUE ONTO MALABAR ROAD.
AND AGAIN, I HATE TO SAY IT'S A BAND-AID.
FDOT HAS MENTIONED IT ALREADY.
OH YEAH, THEY THEY SAID THAT'S A KILLER RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU GET ONE BIG SEMI TRYING TO GET IN THERE.
YES. THEY, THEY, THEY GOT THEIR VIDEO I HAVE IT.
WELL I'VE WITNESSED IT AND THEY SHOWED ME THEIR VIDEOS.
THEY SAID THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM OKAY.
SO UNTIL UNTIL WE RESOLVE THAT MA'AM I STILL THINK WE ASKED FOR DETERRENT ON 95.
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAVE DONE TODAY.
ANY ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR REQUEST FOR INFORMATION YOU, YOU LIKE AS FAR AS THE MASTER PLAN FOR BOTH STREETLIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS HOW WE ARE.
WE HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.
OR IS THAT IN PROGRESS, OR WHERE ARE WE ON THAT? AS IT RELATES TO STREETLIGHTS.
WE'RE WAITING FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TO COME IN THE SAME COMPANY.
WE CAN APPROACH THE SAME COMPANY TO LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN.
SO WE HAVE A STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WE GO THROUGH AND GET A VENDOR TO DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN.
THEY GO, OH, WE'RE GOING TO OWN THEM.
NOW THAT MIGHT IT'S IT'S A BACKSTAB.
IT MIGHT BE A WASTE OF OUR TIME.
SO WE WANT TO GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW BEFORE WE GO INTO THE MASTER PLAN.
YOU COULD SAY IT ON ON THE RECORD.
ON THE RECORD. GO AHEAD, GET ON THE MIC AND SAY IT ON THE RECORD.
I DEFINITELY HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO.
IT'S ALMOST PER MILE, $300,000.
SO THINK ABOUT IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ALTERNATIVE.
AND WE'VE WE ALREADY HAVE SEGMENTS.
IF YOU GO DOWN TO BABCOCK OFF THE INTERCHANGE, YOU'LL SEE AN ASPHALT PAVED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET OF IT.
JOHN. HOW MANY FEET? I'M SORRY.
SO IT'S SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO.
IT'S IT'S EASIER ON THE, ON THE FEET TO BE HONEST.
I MEAN I'VE, I'VE EXPERIENCED THAT IN, IN I WAS IN GAINESVILLE I SPENT A WEEKEND IN GAINESVILLE.
AND I TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S JUST SUPER IMPRESSIVE.
I THINK AFTER THAT EXPERIENCE, I CAME IN AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH MISS SHERMAN.
THE ALTERNATIVE TO LOOK INTO ASPHALT AS, AS AN ALTERNATIVE.
BUT BESIDES THAT, IT WOULD JUST THE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IN GAINESVILLE RIGHT AROUND THAT UNIVERSITY.
THE WHOLE CITY, VERY, VERY FEW TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND THAT THAT WAS THE OTHER THING.
I KNOW QUITE A FEW AROUND AND ABOUT.
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BUT BUT THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO.BUT IT WAS JUST VERY IMPRESSIVE HOW THE TRAFFIC FLOW WALKABILITY, PEDESTRIAN, I MEAN, THE SAFE, THE LEVEL OF SAFETY. AND IT WAS SUPER IMPRESSIVE.
PALM BAY SOMEDAY TO HAVE A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT, I THINK THIS GENTLEMAN ONE.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE SOME OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, ASPHALT SIDEWALKS.
THERE'S ONE ALONG RJ CONLON ON THE EAST SIDE.
AND WE INSTALLED THAT SIDEWALK BIKE PATH YOU CALL.
THAT'S BEEN OVER 20 YEARS AGO, AT LEAST.
AND I DON'T RECALL US EVER DOING ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE.
AND IF THERE IS MAINTENANCE ISSUES, THEY'RE USUALLY MINOR.
SO I MEAN, IT I MEAN, GET MORE BANG FOR YOUR BUCK WITH THE ASPHALT.
THANK YOU. SO THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
AT THIS TIME, I WANT TO AFFORD OUR RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? SO, MASTER CHIEF BATTEN, YOU YOU RAISED YOUR HAND FIRST.
THANK YOU. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'VE GOT SEVERAL ITEMS OR QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.
THE FIRST ONE WAS LIGHTS ON US, ONE FOR THE BAYFRONT ENHANCEMENT.
I SPOKE OUT HARD AGAINST THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T LIKE SPENDING $1 MILLION FOR A STATIC LIGHTS WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR LIGHTING, AND NOW I SEE THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE TO REPLACE IT ONE MORE TIME.
I DIDN'T, I GUESS I DIDN'T TRY HARD ENOUGH FOR THEM NOT TO SPEND IT.
RIGHT. PROPOSED ROUNDABOUTS ON MALABAR ROAD.
THAT'S I DIDN'T SEE THAT WITHIN THERE.
THE OTHER ITEM WAS THE SAINT JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THE NEW OUTFALL THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING INTO MICO THAT'S GOT BERMS. AND IT'S COVERING UP HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ACRES WITHIN THE CITY CITY AREA.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE THREE FORKS PRESERVE BERM THAT THEY HAVE THERE.
RIGHT. AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF SAN FILIPPO AND JUPITER IN THE WEST, TURN IN THE WEST TURN LANE.
IT'S A VERY, VERY TIGHT TURN LANE THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
CAN I RIDE MY HORSE ON THESE NEW TRAILS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GETTING TO THE ROUNDABOUT QUESTION.
FRANK. YEAH, WE HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE THE ORIGINAL ONES WE TALKED ABOUT ORIGINALLY WHEN THE COUNCIL WAS NOT SUPPORTIVE AND THEY STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH ROUNDABOUTS, WAS ON BABCOCK.
BABCOCK THAT WAS CONCERNS ABOUT ROUNDABOUTS ALONG THE BABCOCK CORRIDOR.
SO THAT WAS SENT TO FDOT, AND FDOT ACKNOWLEDGED IT.
THE OTHER SECTION THAT WE HAVE ROUNDABOUTS RIGHT NOW IS MALABAR ROAD.
AT THE CURRENT TIME, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCIL HAD A PRESENTATION, HAD CONCERNS, BUT BECAUSE THE PDA IS ALREADY IN THE MOTIONS AND IT WE WE'VE HAD SO MANY DELAYS AND WE NEED TO GET THAT PROJECT DONE.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AS IT IS.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING HOPEFULLY IN JULY AT THAT TIME AND THE PUBLIC HEARING EVERYBODY COUNCIL ANYBODY, EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT NOW TO SPEAK AND PREVENT, YOU KNOW, NOT PREVENT, BUT PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS ON THE PREFERRED RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IF THE IF THE OVERWHELMING CONCERN FROM THE PUBLIC IS TO NOT PUT ROUNDABOUTS, IT'S HEARD.
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AND THEN IF IT'S JUSTIFIED, YOU CAN BRING IT BACK TO A SIGNAL.THERE ARE OPTIONS STILL ALWAYS, ALWAYS AS YOU MOVE INTO DESIGN EVEN INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE OPPORTUNITIES.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU KNOW ROUNDABOUTS.
THEY SAID THAT THE VIERA ROUNDABOUT WAS ONE OF THE SAFEST INTERSECTIONS FOR FOR MANY YEARS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE ANYMORE.
SO SOMETHING THAT THAT WASN'T THE CASE ANYMORE.
AGAIN, THE RIGHT ROUNDABOUTS I THINK THE ONE IN VIERA HAS A HIGH COMMERCIAL AND HIGH VOLUME USE.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE SAFEST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CONFLICT POINTS.
THIS INTERSECTION FUNCTIONS SO.
SO THOSE ARE SUSTAINABILITY IS A HUGE IN THOSE POINTS.
BUT OVERALL IT'S BEEN SHOWN A GOOD ROUNDABOUT.
AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THESE MASSIVE ONES.
BUT A GOOD ROUNDABOUT DOES MAKE IT SAFER BECAUSE THERE'S LESS CONFLICT POINTS.
SO IT'S JUST BASICALLY NUMBERS.
AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE ON ALL OUR ARTERIALS, I DON'T WANT TO MAXIMIZE OUR ROADWAYS, BALANCE IT OUT.
WE SHOULD HAVE MORE FOUR LANE ROADS BALANCED OUT THAN TO HAVE EIGHT MAIN ROADWAYS.
AND JUST TO GIVE YOU LAST COMMENT, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST TPO MEETING YOU'RE GOING TO BE SHOCKED TOO.
AT THE 2040 TPO SHOWS I-95 EIGHT LANES.
YOU KNOW, I BLEW ME AWAY, TOO.
BUT GETTING TO THAT VIERA INTERSECTION, IT'S COMMERCIAL NOW.
IT'S COMMERCIAL TODAY WHEN THEY FIRST MADE THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO WE'RE ALREADY GROWING AT CAPACITY TO BE PUT MORE ROUNDABOUTS ON MALABAR.
YOU'RE RIGHT, I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE, WE ALL NEED TO VOICE OUR OPINIONS ON.
MR. KEARNS, SORRY ABOUT THAT, SIR.
I WANTED TO GET EVERYTHING ADDRESSED AS I.
I CAN TELL YOU AT FIRST IT WAS LIKE THIS.
BUT AFTER A WHILE THEY STARTED.
IT STARTED TO MAKE SENSE AND EVERYTHING MOVES.
YOU DON'T HAVE THE BACKUPS THAT YOU DO.
I JUST HEARD FROM HIM THAT MEADOWBROOK IS GOING TO BE PAVED, AND I JUST I'M REJOICING FOR THAT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR PAVING MEADOWBROOK AND ALSO PUTTING IN YES, PUTTING IN SPEED BUMPS OR SPEED HUMPS.
YEAH. THE CUSHIONS HE CALLED CUSHIONS.
AND SO PEOPLE ARE STILL SPEEDING THROUGH THERE.
AND SO YES, SOME KIND OF SPEED EASEMENT WOULD BE PERFECT.
AND A LITTLE MORE ENFORCEMENT THERE TOO.
THEY'RE STILL HAULING DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO THOUGH. AND IN YOUR PRESENTATION, FRANK, YOU DID MENTION THOSE SPEED CUSHIONS RIGHT ALONG.
YOU USE METAL LANE OR MEADOWBROOK AS AN EXAMPLE.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE MEADOWBROOK.
AND TO CALM THAT ROADWAY, AS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, AND USE IT AS A SECOND DEMONSTRATION PROJECT.
AND IF THOSE TWO PROJECTS WORK SUCCESSFULLY TO CALM OUR TRAFFIC AND MAKE SURE THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS VERY SATISFIED THAT IT DOESN'T IMPACT BECAUSE THE SPEED CUSHION, THE BEST PART ABOUT IT? THEY'RE BOLTED DOWN.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY. SO, COUNCIL MADAM SHERMAN ANY FURTHER DIRECTION YOU YOU WOULD NEED FROM US, OR JUST YOU WANTED TO RUN THROUGH WHAT WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT? WHAT DIRECTION? I THANK YOU, SIR. I THINK WE'RE PRETTY CLEAR ON DIRECTION.
I KNOW THE STAFF HAS ALREADY BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES ON SOME OF THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS FOR THIS UPCOMING CYCLE, AND YOU'LL SEE MORE FUNDING REQUESTS IN THERE FOR A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
SO. ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU.
WELL, HEARING THAT THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.