[00:00:02] OKAY. IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. [CALL TO ORDER:] I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2024 DASH 13 TO ORDER. AND WE'LL START THIS MEETING. THE WAY WE START EVERY MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO ALL RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. DEPUTY MAYOR DISPLAYS THE FLAG. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! LISTEN AS AS YOU REMAIN STANDING. JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU. THANK YOU. JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING THIS PAST WEEKEND. WE LOST A TEAM MEMBER THAT WAS PART OF THE PALM BAY FAMILY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND SHE WENT ON TO TO WORK FOR THE MELBOURNE AIRPORT. BUT I WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE LOST HER THIS WEEKEND. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO TO SHARE IN A MOMENT A LOT. MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR KATIE LEGGETT. SO PLEASE JOIN ME. THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED. SO NOW WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL. MR. LEFFLER. MAIER. MEDINA. PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR. FELIX HERE. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON HERE. COUNCILMAN. FOSTER HERE. MISS SHERMAN HERE. MISS SMITH HERE. MAYOR, IF I COULD. YES, MA'AM. I, I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT ACCORDING TO COUNCIL POLICY AND PROCEDURES, PUBLIC COMMENTS SHALL ADDRESS ONLY THOSE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY LISTED ON THE AGENDA. AS THIS IS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU MA'AM I APPRECIATE THAT. SO NEXT WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:] SO GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. IT'S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY SMILEY FACES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE CELEBRATING THE MONTH OF JUNE IS JUNETEENTH. AND BECAUSE COUNCIL DOESN'T MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE THE JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION WITH THE PROCLAMATION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MR. GALLOP AND MRS. GALLOP COME ON UP WITH THEIR TEAM TO RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION. COME ON UP. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. WHEREAS ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, 1862, PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN ISSUED THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, NOTIFYING THE STATES IN REBELLION AGAINST THE UNION THAT THEY DO NOT CEASE THEIR REBELLION AND RETURN TO THE UNION. BY JANUARY 1ST, 1863, HE WOULD DECLARE THEIR SLAVES FOREVER FREE. THIS PROCLAMATION WAS IGNORED BY THOSE STATES THAT SECEDED FROM THE UNION, AND WHEREAS IN JUNE 19TH, 1865, REFERRED TO AS JUNETEENTH, IS CONSIDERED THE DATE WHERE THE LAST SLAVES IN AMERICA WERE FREED. AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH IS CELEBRATED BECAUSE IT SYMBOLIZES THE END OF SLAVERY, JUNETEENTH HAS BECOME THE SYMBOLIZE FOR SO MANY AFRICAN AMERICANS WHAT THE 4TH OF JULY SYMBOLS FOR ALL AMERICANS. FREEDOM. IT SERVES AS A HISTORICAL MILESTONE, REMINDING AMERICA OF THE TRIUMPHS OF THE HUMAN SPIRIT OVER THE CRUELTY OF SLAVERY, HONORING THOSE WHO SURVIVED THE INHUMANE INSTITUTION OF BONDAGE, AS WELL AS DEMONSTRATING PRIDE IN THE LEGACY OF RESISTANCE AND PERSEVERANCE. AND WHEREAS, ON JUNE 17TH, 2021, PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SIGNED THE JUNETEENTH NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE DAY ACT INTO LAW, MAKING IT THE FIRST FEDERAL HOLIDAY SINCE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. [00:05:03] S DAY ADDED IN 1983. AND WHEREAS JUNETEENTH IS NOW CELEBRATED ANNUALLY ACROSS THE UNITED STATES ON THE WEEKEND NEAREST TO JUNE 19TH AND IS THE OLDEST CELEBRATION OF THE END OF SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. WHEREAS DURING JUNETEENTH CELEBRATIONS ACROSS THE SPACE COAST, THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVE, FOUNDED IN 2021 BY LOCAL JOURNALIST LINDA HUDSON, J.D. GALLOP, AND ROLANDA HATCHETT, GALLOP DISTRIBUTES NEW DONATED BOOKS, BLACK ON BLACK HISTORY, STEM, AND OTHER TOPICS TO CHILDREN AGES 3 TO 18. THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVE IS AN INSPIRING GRASSROOTS INITIATIVE IN THE AMERICAN SPIRIT OF EMANCIPATION. EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY GROUNDED IN THE MEANING OF JUNETEENTH WITH ITS SMALL ARMY OF VOLUNTEERS, MANY OF WHICH ARE RIGHT HERE ALONGSIDE ME. THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVES GOAL IS TO IGNITE AND NURTURE A LOVE FOR READING AND PROVIDE A GATEWAY TO INTELLECTUAL AND FINANCIAL FREEDOM. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA MAYOR. OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WE CALL PALM BAY. BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2024, AS JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO BECOME MORE AWARE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS CELEBRATION IN AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND IN THE HERITAGE OF OUR NATION AND CITY AND WITNESS HEREOF I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 25TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024. THERE YOU GO, MA'AM. WOW, THIS IS VERY COOL. WHEN WE STARTED THE LITTLE BLACK BOOK DRIVE, ALL WE WERE THINKING ABOUT WERE KIDS. WE WERE THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE IN THIS COUNTRY, IN THIS STATE, IN THIS CITY. AND WE WERE THINKING OF HOW WE CAN HELP THEM TO BROADEN THEIR HORIZONS, TO SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE IN THE WORLD, THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF REALITIES OUT THERE, AND THAT THEY SHOULD FOSTER A LOVE FOR READING. READING FOR THEMSELVES. READING TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD AROUND THEM, AND THEN ALSO READING TO HELP THEM SO THAT WHEN THEY BECOME CITIZENS AND CAN VOTE, THEY CAN READ THE BALLOTS. SO WE ARE VERY PROUD TO STAND HERE TODAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. AND WE JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THIS HONOR. BUT WE ALSO SAY WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING. AND IF ANY OF YOU GUYS WANT TO JOIN US BECAUSE JUNETEENTH IS AN AMERICAN HOLIDAY, IT'S NOT JUST AN AFRICAN AMERICAN HOLIDAY. IT IS AN AMERICAN HOLIDAY. WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. SO IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO JOIN US, WE'RE AROUND AND WE APPRECIATE THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PHOTO. OKAY. COUNCIL, WOULD YOU STEP DOWN? DOWN THIS WAY. SO WE COULD ALL KNOW. INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE PROCLAMATION READS FREEDOM. INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM. AND THAT'S THE MISSION HERE. WHEN YOU WHEN YOU HELP CHILDREN GATHER BOOKS THAT ARE INTERESTING AND READING. COME ON IN. LET'S ALL JUST GATHER TOGETHER, PRETEND WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER. DON'T HAVE TO PRETEND YOU HEARD US. SHE SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO PRETEND. COME ON. THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL GIVE THIS TO JEFF, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANKS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU NOW. I KNOW WHERE YOU WENT. THANK YOU. TELL THEM. ROLAND. YES. PROUD OF ALL Y'ALL. GOD BLESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. THANK. LESS. OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION IS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK. YEAH. GO! CODE ENFORCERS. COME ON UP, VALERIE. [00:10:01] BRING YOUR TEAM. THESE ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT OUR STREETS WITH CODE. GOD BLESS YOU. WE ASK SO MUCH OF YOU. AND IT'S RIGHT THAT WE RECOGNIZE AND COMMEND YOU DURING THIS WEEK. IT IS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, THE CITY OF PALM BAY. YOU GUYS KNOW I'M AD LIBBING THAT, RIGHT? WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PROVIDE FOR THE SAFETY, HEALTH AND WELFARE OF ALL CITIZENS IN THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH THE ENFORCEMENT OF BUILDING, ZONING, HOUSING, FIRE, SAFETY, ENVIRONMENTAL AND OTHER CODES AND ORDINANCES. AND WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE OFTEN NOT CREDITED, CREDITED FOR THE JOBS THEY DO IN SAVING LIVES AND IMPROVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHEREAS, EVERY DAY, ASSISTED BY A SUPPORT AND PROGRAM STAFF, CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS PROVIDE QUALITY CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS TOO MANY TIMES CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS HARD WORK GOES UNNOTICED EVEN AFTER CODE COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED DUE TO THEIR EFFORTS AND EXPERTISE. AND WHEREAS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE DEDICATED, WELL TRAINED, HIGHLY RESPONSIBLE INDIVIDUALS WHO TAKE THEIR JOBS SERIOUSLY AND ARE PROUD OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN WHICH THEY SERVE. AND WHEREAS THE FLORIDA ASSOCIATION OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS DECLARED THE FIRST WEEK OF JUNE BE SET ASIDE BY LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THEIR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF JUNE 3RD THROUGH THE SEVENTH AS CODE ENFORCEMENT LAW. CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS APPRECIATION WEEK. I ALMOST THREW IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THERE. DID YOU CATCH THAT? IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATEWIDE OBSERVANCE OF THE SAME, AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO JOIN AND EXPRESSING APPRECIATION FOR THE DEDICATION AND OUTSTANDING SERVICE PROVIDED BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SERVE AS OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, I HEREBY SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 25TH 25TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024. AND NOW I'M CALLING UP THE MANAGER OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, MISS VALERIE PARSONS. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. WELL. I'M VERY PROUD TO BE THE DIVISION MANAGER FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, AND I COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS WITHOUT MY WONDERFUL STAFF, MY CODE OFFICERS AND MY ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. WE ARE LIKE FAMILY AND I AM VERY PROUD OF THEM AND I WOULDN'T BE THE MANAGER I AM TODAY WITHOUT THEIR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN. COME. SO. COME ON, COME ON, LET'S GO GUYS. COME ON, COME ON, GET CLOSE. WHERE'S THE GIMME? GIMME. COME ON. NO. IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED, GUY. ONE. YEAH, HE WOULD BE. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. OH, MY. I'M. I THINK I GAVE IT TO HER ALREADY. SO THIS IS OUR LAST PROCLAMATION FOR THE EVENING. IT IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. FRED, POPPY AND TEAM, COME ON UP. THANKS FOR COMING UP. COME ON, GUYS. NUMBER ONE LIFEGUARD. I GOTTA COVER UP THIS PART. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT OUR COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES HEALTH AND WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR PARKS. [00:15:03] WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION PROMOTES TIME SPENT IN NATURE, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL HEALTH BY INCREASING COGNITIVE PERFORMANCE AND WELL-BEING, AND ALLEVIATING ILLNESSES SUCH AS DEPRESSION, ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDERS, AND ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES BY PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS. HIKING TRAILS. SWIMMING POOLS. AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS A LEADING PROVIDER ON HEALTHY MEALS, NUTRITIONAL SERVICES AND EDUCATION. AND WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMING EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME, PROGRAMING, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION ARE CRITICAL TO CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION INCREASES A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES, EXPANSION OF LOCAL TAX BASE, INCREASED TOURISM, THE ATTRACTION AND RETENTION OF BUSINESSES, AND CRIME REDUCTION. ISN'T THAT COOL? GIVING KIDS AN OUTLET SO THAT THEY ARE ENTERTAINED. WHAT A CONCEPT. I CAN GO ON ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW. WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS FUNDAMENTAL TO THE ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS PARKS AND RECREATION IS ESSENTIAL AND ADAPTABLE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITIES RESILIENT IN THE FACE OF A NATURAL DISASTER AND CLIMATE CHANGE. AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE AND RECREATE OUTDOORS OR RECREATE OUTDOORS. WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH. AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECOGNIZES THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATION RESOURCES. NOW, THEREFORE, I. ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY 2024 AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE IN PARKS AND RECREATION ACTIVITIES AND SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT WORK TOWARDS CREATING HEALTHY COMMUNITIES AND IMPROVE THE WELL-BEING OF OUR CITIZENS AND OUR CITY AS A WHOLE. AND WITNESS HEREOF. I SET MY RIGHT HAND OR MY HAND, AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 25TH DAY OF JUNE, 2024. FRED, COME ON UP AND RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION. THANK YOU SIR. HOLD THAT FOR ME. OH, SURE. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES. THIS IS THE 10TH YEAR IN A ROW I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IT'S IT'S A IT'S AN HONOR. REALLY WANT TO FIRST THANK THE COUNCIL AND AND, YOU KNOW, IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF FOR, FOR THEIR SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THAT SUPPORT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE DO. WE INTERACT WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, BUT I THINK THE THE BIGGEST SHOUT I WANT, I WANT TO GIVE IS TO POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT'S TOO BAD MARIO IS NOT HERE. BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY INTERACT WITH US ON ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS AND EVERYTHING AND, YOU KNOW, ARE ALWAYS HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF THINGS THAT WE DO. AND WE COLLABORATE ON A LOT OF INITIATIVES. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE AND HIS STAFF UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE HAVE A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE IN THAT PARKS AND RECREATION FALL ACTUALLY IN TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. SO WITH US UP HERE IS GREG MINOR, THE PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR, AND SOME OF HIS STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE COORDINATION BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DELIVER THE SERVICES. I MEAN, WE DEPEND HEAVILY ON THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE PARKS ARE CLEAN AND SAFE AND, AND THEY THEY PROVIDE A LOT OF LOGISTICAL SUPPORT FOR ALL THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE DO. SO WE DO HAVE A LITTLE VIDEO THAT, THAT WE WANT TO SHOW THAT THAT HIGHLIGHTS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN JULY. BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING. JUST BECAUSE JULY IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE 11 OTHER MONTHS WE DON'T DO ANYTHING. OKAY? SO PLEASE LOOK US UP ON ON PLAY PALM BAY DOT ORG TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS AND PROGRAMS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE. SO. YOU WOULD YOU VIDEO. [00:22:23] OH. SO THE MAYOR WANTED ME TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT ON JULY 5TH, FRIDAY, JULY 5TH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR FOURTH CELEBRATION WITH THE BIGGEST FIREWORKS SHOW IN BREVARD COUNTY. SO IT'LL BE FROM 5 TO 9 AT EAST FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE. THANKS. SO BEFORE WE WE CONCLUDE, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THE PASSION BEHIND THESE INDIVIDUALS. [00:25:07] RIGHT. AND PART OF THAT, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR THE RECREATION DIRECTOR, FRED POPPY, 50 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THIS GREAT CITY. FRED. POPPY. 50 YEARS. I BELIEVE HE WAS FIVE WHEN HE FIRST STARTED. CHILD LABOR LAWS PREVENTED THAT. BUT 50 YEARS. THAT'S THAT'S IMPECCABLE. THAT'S OUTSTANDING. AND THAT'S THE PASSION THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CITY. GOD BLESS YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. AND THAT PRODUCTION WAS DONE BY ANDY DIMON. THAT VIDEO. SO WAY TO GO ANDY. THAT'S YOUR SHIRT? OH, SURE. SEND ME A NOTE OR SOMETHING. I. JUST. I THINK. RIGHT. YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] OKAY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2024. THAT'S 25. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 19, BLOCK 1107, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 23. ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 16, PAGE 20. THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? SAY AGAIN. COME ON UP. WE'RE. ARE YOU, MISS DENISE? YES, I'M. I WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A SWIMMING POOL IN MY BACKYARD, AND THE PUBLIC WORKS HAD A 20 FOOT EASEMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE EIGHT FEET OF THE EASEMENT TO BUILD THE POOL. ANY QUESTIONS COUNSEL? THANK YOU MA'AM. THAT'S IT. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED SECOND. GOT TO GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. ALRIGHT. PASSES THREE 0 OR 4 ZERO AS YOU WERE. COUNCILMAN FOSTER IS ON THE LINE. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH. THE FOLLOWING I'S ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS TWO, FOUR AND FIVE. ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY AGGRIEVED OR ADVERSELY AFFECTED PARTY. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. [00:30:02] ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS FOR A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES. THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION, OR UPON REQUESTS OF A PARTY TO THE PROCEEDING. THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC. AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. ORDINANCE 20 2426. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM GU. GENERAL USE HOLDING DISTRICT TO CC COMMUNITY. COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO COGAN DRIVE AND THE VICINITY NORTH OF MELBOURNE. TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL 42 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THANK YOU. I'M THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, JAKE WISE, YOU KNOW. CAN I DO THIS REALLY COOL THING? THANK YOU. AND BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE. BEFORE I WENT INTO THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT WE HAD TWO AGENDA ITEMS TONIGHT. THIS ONE IS FOR THE ZONING. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE. WE DID REQUEST A TABLE THAT SO THAT WE COULD HAVE TWO READINGS ON THE ZONING FIRST. BUT WE WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE OVERALL PROJECT. SO WE'LL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE AS WELL, SO THAT COUNCIL CAN UNDERSTAND AND SEE THE BIG PICTURE OF THE PROJECT. BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE DETAILS, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE ADAM SAWYER. HE'S THE DEVELOPER FOR THE PROJECT SO YOU CAN MEET WHO IS INVESTING IN PALM BAY AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND HOW THEY GO ABOUT THEIR PROJECTS. I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO FIND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER SELF-STORAGE TYPE PROJECTS THAT YOU SEE. YES. I GOTTA TAKE THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JASON LINSCOTT. I'M ADAMS. MY, MY MY PARTNER, LONGTIME PARTNER WHO WAS HERE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING WHICH IS REFERRED TO WE ARE A FAMILY BASED COMPANY AND HAVE BEEN IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS FOR A COUPLE OF GENERATIONS. WE'VE BEEN DOING SELF-STORAGE FOR A LITTLE OVER 15 YEARS AND HAVE DEVELOPED, I THINK ABOUT 75 OF THESE PROJECTS OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS REALLY ALL OVER THE EAST COAST OUT OF ATLANTA. WE HAVE ABOUT A DOZEN PROJECTS IN FLORIDA. WE'RE A BIG FOCUS IN FLORIDA RIGHT NOW. OR FOR FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW, WE ALSO DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY AND RETAIL AS WELL. SO WE DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF THINGS, I GUESS YOU CAN CALL IT ADD OR DIVERSIFICATION, WHATEVER. WHATEVER MAKES MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD. BUT WE SO WE, OUR COMPANY IS SET UP WHERE WE, WE ACTUALLY FIND THESE LOCATIONS. WE, WE DO THE DEVELOPMENT METHODOLOGIES FOR UNDERWRITING AND SIZING UP THE MARKET, WHICH I'LL EXPLAIN TO YOU. AND THEN WE ALSO BUILD THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE MANAGE THE PROJECT, OWN THE PROJECT AND OPERATE IT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE DO. SO WE HAVE YOU KNOW, THE BRAND ON THE, ON THE BUILDING IS OUR BRAND. IT'S CALLED THE SPACE SHOP STORAGE. ALL THE EMPLOYEES ARE OUR EMPLOYEES ALL OVER. AND WE HAVE DISTRICT MANAGERS IN FLORIDA AS WELL THAT TRAVEL TO ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES. SO THAT'S SORT OF HOW WE'RE SET UP. YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE NOT A SORT OF A BIG INSTITUTIONAL COMPANY. IT'S A REALLY FAMILY OWNED COMPANY, AND WE OPERATE OUR OWN STORES. YOU KNOW, SELF-STORAGE IS AN INTERESTING PRODUCT. IT'S YOU GUYS HAVE PROBABLY SEEN IT'S EVOLVED A LOT OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS WHERE IT USED TO BE SORT OF METAL ROLL UP DOORS AND CHAIN LINK FENCES AND IT'S NOW A REALLY MORE OF A CLASS, A COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, SORT OF A COMMUNITY DRIVEN PRODUCT MEANING IT'S SORT OF AN EXTENSION OF PEOPLE'S HOMES. UTILIZATION RATES FOR STORAGE HAVE GONE UP DRAMATICALLY OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. IT USED TO BE SOMETHING LIKE 4%, MEANING LIKE FOUR OUT OF EVERY 100 PEOPLE USE STORAGE. NOW IT'S CLOSE. IT'S PUSHING 13, 14. IT JUST KEEPS CONTINUING TO GO UP. AND I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BEING INVOLVED IN THE INDUSTRY, WE'RE WE'RE A TOP 20 OPERATOR IN THE COUNTRY AT LEAST ACCORDING TO THE SELF-STORAGE ASSOCIATION. SO WE'RE VERY INVOLVED IN THE, THE NATIONAL INDUSTRY ASSOCIATIONS AND INVOLVED IN SORT OF HOW PEOPLE ARE APPROACHING THE PRODUCT AND WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PRODUCT. [00:35:08] I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BUILT WE'RE BUILDING NICER PRODUCTS, NOT JUST US, BUT OTHERS TOO. YOU KNOW, OUR OUR BUILDINGS LOOK REALLY NICE. I MEAN, WE WE HAVE A CLASS A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE WANT IT TO FIT IN WITH THE COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING THE COMMUNITY IS PROUD OF. NO TWO OF OUR BUILDINGS LOOK ALIKE. THEY'RE ALL SORT OF CUSTOM DESIGNED FOR THAT COMMUNITY. SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN WHEN WE'RE IN FLORIDA, WE'RE IN GEORGIA, WE'RE IN SOUTH CAROLINA. THEY'RE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURE DEPENDING ON THE AREA. AND THEN THE THINGS LIKE THINGS LIKE THE OFFICE, YOU KNOW, WHERE FOLKS COME IN THE FIRST TIME TO RENT. IT'S VERY NICE. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO FEEL LIKE IT'S A HOTEL LOBBY AND WE HAVE FREE COFFEE, WE HAVE FREE WATER, WE HAVE FREE WI-FI OR CUSTOMERS CAN USE. YOU KNOW, IT FEELS IT'S A NICE EXPERIENCE WHICH IS, I THINK WHY PEOPLE USE THE PRODUCT MORE AND MORE. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS ALL INDOORS, SO IT'S 100% CLIMATE CONTROLLED INDOOR STORAGE. SO THERE'S NO OUTDOOR STORAGE UNITS AT ALL. THERE'S NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OF ANY PRODUCT AT ALL, MEANING LIKE A TRAILER OR A VEHICLE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND, AND THIS TYPE OF LOCATION IS REALLY WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. AS A MATTER OF FACT, PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. AND IT'S AND IT'S IT'S INTERESTING. YOU KNOW, WE DO A PRETTY IN DEPTH METHODOLOGY FOR HOW WE IDENTIFY WHERE THERE'S HIGH DEMAND AND LOW SUPPLY FOR STORAGE. THESE ARE BIG INVESTMENTS. I MEAN, EACH OF THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, THEY'RE GENERALLY BETWEEN 12 AND $15 MILLION PROJECTS. THEY'RE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR COMMITMENT. SO WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY. AND THE METHODOLOGY REALLY IS UNDERSTANDING THE DEMAND OF A COMMUNITY, OF A TRADE AREA. WE REALLY STUDY TRAFFIC PATTERNS HIGH SCHOOL GROCERIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE PEOPLE GO, WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. AND IT'S WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE THIS PRODUCT TO STORE, YOU KNOW, HOLIDAY STUFF AND, YOU KNOW, JUST EXTRA THINGS WHEN KIDS MIGHT HAVE THREE KIDS THAT JUST WENT TO COLLEGE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST CAME HOME AND BROUGHT ALL THEIR STUFF THIS SUMMER, AND IT'S LIKE, YOU NEED SPACE FOR THAT STUFF. SO IT'S THAT KIND OF THING. SO YOU WANT TO BE IN, IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH THIS SITE IS REALLY PERFECT BECAUSE IT'S IT HAS NOT BEEN A GREAT RETAIL LOCATION BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF THE RETAIL CORRIDOR. RIGHT. IT'S MORE QUASI INTO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, RIGHT NEXT TO THE TO THE DMV, AS YOU GUYS KNOW. SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW NOT REALLY GREAT RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE SITE. SO WE LOVE THESE SITES BECAUSE WE SEE OUR STORES AS RETAIL. I MEAN, OUR CUSTOMERS ARE THE COMMUNITY. SO TO US, WE CALL THEM STORES. THEY ARE RETAIL. THEY ARE SO THIS IS A THIS IS A GREAT LOCATION FOR THAT. VERY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATION. YOU KNOW, WE GENERATE GENERALLY ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 15 TRIPS A DAY. YOU KNOW, FOLKS DON'T GO TO THE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY EVERY DAY, RIGHT. AND REGULARLY SO YOU DON'T GENERATE MUCH TRAFFIC. THEREFORE YOU DON'T HAVE A HUGE PARKING NEED. WE'LL GENERALLY HAVE BETWEEN 2 AND 3 EMPLOYEES DEPENDING ON DEMAND. BUT THIS WOULD BE TWO, TWO, TWO AND A HALF EMPLOYEES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THOSE AGAIN ARE OUR EMPLOYEES OF OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY. SO THIS PARTICULAR AREA, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE LIKE A ABOUT A THREE MILE TRADE AREA, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THIS PERFECT CIRCLE WE ACTUALLY DRAW BASED ON DRIVE TIME AND WHERE TRAFFIC PATTERNS ARE. BUT LET'S JUST SAY IT'S ABOUT THREE MILES. IT'S AN INTERESTING ONE BECAUSE THIS MARKET IN THE THREE MILES, THERE'S ONLY ONE STORE IN THAT THREE MILE TRADE AREA, WHICH IS ABOUT 40,000 PEOPLE. THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL. SO THAT'S VERY LOW SUPPLY FOR THIS, THIS AREA. YOU'D EXPECT AN AREA IN THIS COMMUNITY TO TO BE ABLE TO FILL, MEANING LIKE 90 PLUS PERCENT OCCUPANCY TO ABOUT TEN SQUARE FEET PER PERSON. WITH OUR STORE HERE, IT'S STILL ABOUT 40% BELOW THAT AFTER WE WOULD BE COMPLETE, WHICH IS HOW WE LOOK AT THE THE MARKET ONCE WE'RE IN IT, OF COURSE. SO VERY HIGH DEMAND PROFILE BECAUSE OF THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO BASEMENTS, THERE'S, THERE'S HOMES WHERE FOLKS NEED STORAGE. AND VERY LOW SUPPLY. YOU KNOW, FOLKS HAVE TO GO WAY NORTH TO GET TO ANY STORAGE. THERE'S NOTHING REALLY IN THE COMMUNITY EXCEPT FOR MR.. STUART. RIGHT OVER BY THE THE PUBLIX AND BAYSIDE. SO AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE MARKET QUESTIONS ABOUT DEMAND, SUPPLY, HOW WE OPERATE, ANY OF THOSE THINGS. BUT HOPEFULLY THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHO WE ARE, HOW WE APPROACH IT AND WHAT WE WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS? NO. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. HEY, WE'RE ON HOLD. ALL RIGHT. NO, NO. NO QUESTIONS. REALLY? YOU KIND OF ANSWERED IT. I WOULD PREFER RETAIL THERE. I'M NOT A FAN OF SELF STORAGE. I'LL BE HONEST. THE COUNCIL KNOWS THAT AS WELL. AND WE DO HAVE MR. STORAGE. BUT IS IT, IS IT AT MAX CAPACITY? AND I WAS GOING TO I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I KNOW YOU DID YOUR DEMOGRAPHICS. [00:40:02] YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU THERE'S ONE THERE. WHAT'S THEIR CAPACITY? ARE THEY AT CAPACITY OR DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW. RIGHT. SO GREAT QUESTION. SO TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WHO'S ANALYZING SITES COME DOWN, WE SHOP EVERY STORE. SO AND WE'LL MYSTERY SHOP STORES, YOU KNOW, AS CUSTOMERS. AND THEN OUR OPERATIONS TEAM WILL COME DOWN SEPARATE OF US AND DO IT ALSO SO WE GET TWO DIFFERENT OPINIONS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS OF MR. TODAY. WHEN WE SHOPPED IT THEY HAD A WAITING LIST. SO THEY'RE DOING REALLY WELL THERE. AND IT'S A GREAT STORE. GOOD MIX OF OUTDOOR STORAGE, MEANING LIKE OUTDOOR ACCESS AND INDOOR. SO THEY WERE FULL. WE ALSO WENT OUTSIDE OF OUR TRADE AREA TO ALL THE STORES TO THE NORTH. AND THERE'S A FEW FOLKS UP THERE THAT WE KNOW ACTUALLY VERY WELL EXTRA SPACE STORAGE, IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN THEM. THEY'RE BIG COMPANY, GREAT COMPANY OUT OF UTAH. WE KNOW THEM VERY WELL. KNOWN THOSE GUYS FOR 15 YEARS, AND WE CAN CALL THEM AND ACTUALLY ASK THEM FOR THEIR RENT ROLL. THEY'LL ACTUALLY GIVE US WHAT THEIR OCCUPANCY AND THEIR RATE IS INSIDE THEIR STORES, AND THEY'RE ALL FULL. THEY'RE ALL OVER 90% AND CHARGING AND GETTING STRONG RENTS UP IN THE NORTH AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF STORAGE. SO FROM ALL OF OUR SHOPPING, ALL OF OUR CALLING AND APPROACHING THESE STORES, EVERYONE'S EVERYONE'S FULL. AND IN THIS, IN THIS INDUSTRY, REALLY 90% IS FULL. IF YOU GET TO SAY, 95% OR SO, YOU ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF UNIT TYPES BECAUSE WE HAVE A MIX OF UNITS. WE HAVE FIVE BY FIVES, FIVE BY TENS, TEN BY TENS, TEN BY 20 IS DIFFERENT SIZE UNITS. THE LARGEST UNIT WILL BE A TEN BY 30. IF YOU ARE 95%, YOU LIKELY HAVE SEVERAL UNIT TYPES THAT ARE FULL 100%. AND YOU DON'T WANT THAT BECAUSE WHEN A CUSTOMER WALKS IN, YOU DON'T HAVE A PRODUCT ON YOUR SHELF, SO TO SPEAK. RIGHT? SO 90% IS 90, 92% IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED FULL. SO SO I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. THE VERY FIRST ONE IS I NOTICED IN YOUR CP THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN, YOU HAVE TWO STAFFERS, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TWO FOLKS AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. WERE THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS THAT ARE IN BAYSIDE LAKES, WERE THEY APPROACHED? WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING. AND NO ONE CAME. NO ONE. CORRECT. I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY IN ATTENDANCE. YEAH. NO ONE CAME TO IT. AND SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY HOW HOW IN DEPTH WAS THAT NOTICE I KNOW WHAT IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE? 500FT, BUT MAYBE 500FT ISN'T, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE NOTIFIED. YEAH. AND I GUESS I GUESS JAKE ANSWERED THAT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. OKAY. YEAH. SO SO THE IT IS A 500 FOOT RADIUS. NOTICE WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE BAYSIDE LAKES PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE WE DO HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMISSION AS WELL FOR THE ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT NOTIFIED THE PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION TO THE EAST. AND THEN WE DO POST SIGNS AS WELL. AND YOU KNOW HOW WELL TRAVELED THIS AREA IS. YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE SIT IN TRAFFIC THERE QUITE A BIT. SO THE SIDE NOTE APPLICATIONS WERE OBVIOUSLY THERE AS WELL AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ATTEND. OKAY. SO JUST ABOUT ALL THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS WERE WITHIN THAT RADIUS OR DID WE JUST HIT ONE? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO ASK JAKE. YEAH. THERE'S ONLY ONE WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS, SO ONLY THE ONE WAS NOTIFIED BY THE MAILINGS? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. JUST ONE. ALL RIGHT, THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS YOU YOU MENTIONED A REALLY WELCOMING RECEPTION AREA WITH FREE COFFEE AND ALL THAT. HOW MANY JOBS ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE WITHIN YOUR COMPANY? TWO. TWO AND A HALF. JUST TWO PEOPLE. YEP. YOU SEE, I'M BIG ON JOBS. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I'VE, I'VE, I'VE STOOD BEFORE. SURE. SO YOU KNOW TO ME I, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE LIKE A BIG RESTAURANT THERE. HAS ENOUGH PARKING SPACE, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE RESIDENTS NEARBY SOMETHING LARGE. BUT CARRY ON, YOU KNOW, TO WE DO A LOT OF RETAIL DEVELOPMENT, DO A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY. I'VE DONE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF RESTAURANTS, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. WE WE DO EVERYTHING FROM, YOU KNOW, THE FAST CASUALS THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH. I'VE DONE A BUNCH OF CHIPOTLE'S AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. WE'VE ALSO DONE A LOT OF NICE SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS MORE LOCALLY BRANDED STUFF WITH RESTAURATEURS AND CHEFS IN MIDTOWN ATLANTA AND IN VIRGINIA. SEE, THAT INTERESTS ME. THIS THIS SITE IS A REAL STRUGGLE FOR THAT. AND I'LL LET PAT SPEAK TO THAT. THE OWNER SHE'S OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR 20 YEARS. APPROXIMATELY 20 YEARS. IT'S JUST A TOUGH SITE FOR THAT. YOU KNOW ANYBODY. WHAT MAKES IT TOUGH? IT'S THE LOCATION. THEY. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE A RESTAURATEUR AND I COME TO YOU AND SAY, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, AND THEY GOT TO INVEST A LOT OF MONEY IN THIS THING, RIGHT? TO, TO TO DO THAT, TO DO THAT AND BE SUCCESSFUL, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO BE CLOSER TO PUBLIX AND BE ON THE RETAIL CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE AND THAT'S WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING. [00:45:01] BUT YOU HAVE THERE'S LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW YOUR BUSINESS, BUT I SEE THAT THERE'S MANY HEADS, MANY BEDS, MANY ROOFS DOWN RANGE FROM WHERE THAT LOCATION IS. SO I WOULD VENTURE THAT THEY WOULD COME OUT TO EAT CHOW IN THAT. YEAH. IT'S YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS AN EXISTING BUILDING THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO RENOVATE IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE A LOWER COST, YOU KNOW, TO SOMETHING, BUT TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING AND FOR A RESTAURATEUR TO INVEST, TO BUILD OUT A NEW BUILDING YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THAT TYPE OF USE ESPECIALLY GROUND UP AWAY FROM THE RETAIL CORRIDOR. IT'S NOT IN THE RETAIL CORRIDOR. THEY WANT TO BE NEAR THE ENERGY, THE ACTION, OTHER RETAILERS. BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO DO, YOU KNOW, YOUR GROCERY SHOPPING OR YOU'RE DOING YOUR OTHER RETAIL ERRANDS, YOU WANT TO BE NEAR THAT STUFF, RIGHT? AND THAT'S THE YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE SORT OF SYNERGY YOU WANT AS AN OPERATOR OF A RESTAURANT. IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO DO SOMETHING OUT OF THE MIX. YEAH. AND WHICH IS WHY. AND I'LL LET PAT SPEAK TO IT. SHE HAS MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAN I DO. BUT BUT IN IN MY SORT OF OPINION, AS IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY IT'S UNDEVELOPED. OKAY. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SIR. SO DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? HEY, I DO, YEAH. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. WELL, OUT OF CURIOSITY, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE DISTANCE FROM THE EXISTING. WE HAVE TWO EXISTING AS YOU ENTER BAYSIDE BOULEVARD. RIGHT. WELL OFF BASE. AS YOU ENTER BAYSIDE, WE HAVE TWO STORAGE UNITS. I MEAN, TWO STORAGE COMPANIES. I GUESS THEY ARE THE SAME. SAME COMPANY. SAME SAME. YEAH. TWO SITES. RIGHT? YEAH. SAME. SAME OWNER. DIFFERENT. YEAH. IF YOU WOULD MEASURE ONE FROM THE CURRENT SITE, YOUR PROPOSED SITE, HOW MANY FEET WOULD YOU SAY THAT IS? IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT HALF A MILE. YOU SAY DANIEL. SO ROUGHLY ABOUT 3000. 3000 PROBABLY. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT THAT FEELS ABOUT RIGHT. YEAH. I LIVE IN BAYSIDE. OKAY. I'M A RESIDENT OF BAYSIDE. I STRUGGLE WITH THAT AS WELL. BUT HAVING ANOTHER STORAGE UNIT RIGHT THERE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PROPER LOCATION. I MEAN, WE CAN ARGUE THAT I'M NOT A PROFESSIONAL. I DON'T DO WHAT YOU DO. I STRUGGLE WITH THAT AS WELL. AND BASED ON YOUR EXPERTISE, THAT'S THE BEST FIT FOR THAT COMMUNITY. YEAH, I THINK IT'S I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF REASONS, IT'S A GREAT USE OF THE PROPERTY. I MEAN, IT'S SORT OF SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN THE THE WATERWAY AND THE DMV, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN INSTITUTIONAL USE NEXT TO IT. AND THEN THERE'S WETLANDS IN THE BACK THAT THE CITY OR THE COUNTY OWNS. IT'S MUNICIPALLY OWNED, INSTITUTIONALLY OWNED. SO YOU'RE SORT OF SANDWICHED IN THERE. THERE'S NO WAY TO EXPAND IT. MEANING LIKE YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN CREATE SOMETHING AND THEN EXPAND AND ADD MULTIFAMILY OR ADD TOWNHOMES OR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND REALLY CREATE SOMETHING. IT'S REALLY LANDLOCKED. IT'S IT'S MID-BLOCK, MEANING IT'S NOT AT AN INTERSECTION THAT'S GENERALLY TOUGH FOR COMMERCIAL MID-BLOCK LOCATIONS BECAUSE FOLKS ARE JUST GOING, YOU KNOW YOU ALWAYS NOTICE THE HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL IS GOING TO BE NEAR THE CORNERS, RIGHT? YOUR YOUR DRUGSTORES AND YOUR, YOU KNOW, CHICK FIL A'S AND PUBLIX AND THOSE THINGS. SO IT'S A MID-BLOCK LOCATION. IT'S NOT IN A RETAIL AREA. IT'S SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE CANAL, THE WETLANDS AND THE DMV OR THE WATERWAY, I'M SORRY, IN THE WETLANDS AND THE DMV. IT'S RIGHT WHERE THE ROAD NARROWS. IT GOES FROM TWO LANES TO ONE LANE. YOU KNOW, AS IT GOES ACROSS THE WATERWAY, IT GETS TIGHT. SO ANY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING OUT OF THERE, I THINK IT CAUSES PROBLEMS. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS PRODUCT IS REALLY AN EXTENSION OF FOLKS HOMES. SO WHAT WE'VE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR TENANTS AND THIS IS HOW WE TREAT IT WITH THEM. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY AN EXTENSION OF THEIR HOME. SO YOU REALLY THE PRODUCT CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL IS BETTER. YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BUILD A SELF-STORAGE STORE NEXT TO A WALGREENS, YOU KNOW, IN THAT COMMERCIAL QUARTER WHERE THERE'S ALL THIS TRAFFIC. BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHERE IT'S JUST NOT AS EASY, RIGHT, FOR FOLKS TO GET IN AND OUT OF TO DO THEIR THING. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S A GREAT TRANSITIONAL USE. AND WE'VE SEEN THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH COMMUNITIES WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE SORT OF BUILT RIGHT IN THAT TRANSITION AREA BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND RETAIL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A PRODUCT THAT SERVES RESIDENTIAL NEEDS. AND IT'S SORT OF QUASI RETAIL. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CALL OUR PROPERTY STORES BECAUSE WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY. AND IT SORT OF FITS WITHIN THOSE TRANSITIONAL AREAS. SO I THINK THIS SITE FITS PERFECT FOR THAT. AND THE WAY WE'VE DONE THE ARCHITECTURE, IT REALLY LOOKS MORE LIKE A SORT OF A SUBURBAN KIND OF OFFICE, YOU KNOW, FLORIDA OFFICE BUILDING. IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE, LIKE, OUTSIDE ROLL UP DOORS AND A BIG FENCE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO IT REALLY LOOKS I THINK IT LOOKS VERY ATTRACTIVE. AND IT HAS SORT OF THE FLORIDA VERNACULAR. YOU KNOW EXPOSURE TO THE RIGHT THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T CREATE TRAFFIC. [00:50:02] IT'S VERY QUIET. YOU'RE NOT NO NOXIOUS USES, NO BANDS OUTSIDE PLAYING MUSIC. WE DON'T HAVE DUMPSTERS AND DUMPSTER TRUCKS COMING THROUGH. YOU DON'T HAVE DELIVERIES ALL THE TIME FOR FOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS WHY THAT AGAIN WHAT WE FOUND IN ALL THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT TRANSITIONAL USE BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, IT'S NICE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ALL OF THAT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, MEANING, LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO A RESTAURANT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DELIVERIES ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE DURING NORMAL HOURS. RIGHT. BECAUSE YOU NEED THEM OFF HOURS. YOU CAN HAVE TRASH TRUCKS COMING EVERY DAY BECAUSE THE DUMPSTERS FILL UP FAST WITH RESTAURANTS. SO IT'S A NICE TRANSITION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT THAT TYPE OF STUFF. AND I GUESS THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR STAFF IN TERMS OF THE SETBACK. IS THERE WAS THERE ANY PLAN TO IMPROVEMENT TO IMPROVE THAT, THAT CORRIDOR, MAYBE ADDING LANES OR WHAT'S THE SETBACK OF THIS PROPERTY? I CAN SEE IF OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR MIGHT HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE OR JAKE IS HERE. EXCELLENT. GO AHEAD. I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. I WAS GOING TO DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER TO THE ZONING ANYWAY, BUT THE ZONING REQUESTING IS CC THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. AND RIGHT NOW THE MINIMUM FRONT SETBACK, FOR EXAMPLE, IS 30FT. WE'RE PROPOSING 84FT. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET UP ON THE ROAD. WE HAVE OVER ALMOST THREE TIMES THE SETBACK. ON THE TWO SIDES WERE THREE TIMES AND EIGHT TIMES THE MINIMUM SETBACK OF MINIMUMS. TEN. WE'RE OVER 30 AND OVER 80FT. WE HAVE A TREE PRESERVATION AREA WE'RE KEEPING IN THE BACK AS PART OF THE PROJECT THAT'S PROPOSED, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR HALF THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT. IT IS A VERY ESTHETIC, ATTRACTIVE LOOKING CLASS, A TYPE OF OFFICE BUILDING. IT IS FLORIDA VERNACULAR. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FINISHES ON IT. IT'S GOING TO LOOK AND FEEL LIKE THAT. YOU GUYS KNOW, WE DO A LOT OF PALM BAY WORK, YOU KNOW WE KNOW THE CITY VERY WELL, AND THE DIFFERENT CORRIDORS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS SITE HAS SAT VACANT WITH BASICALLY NO BITES ON IT FOR DECADES. I DID PINEAPPLE COVE ACROSS THE STREET. I'VE DONE ODYSSEY SCHOOL MULTIPLE TIMES. WE'RE DOING ANOTHER EXPANSION FOR THEM TODAY. NEVER HAD ANYBODY EVEN KICK THE TIRES ON THIS SITE. AND THAT'S BECAUSE, IN MY OPINION, THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USES THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, AND EVEN THE COUNTY HAD IT FOR A WHILE TO EXPAND THEIR COMPLEX AND DID NOT. IT'S NOT A GOOD OFFICE SITE. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A GOOD RETAIL SITE. SO THIS IS, IN MY OPINION, ONE OF THE BEST POSSIBLE SITES. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WHOLE AREA AND LOOK AT THE PENT UP NEED, THE WAITING LIST, YOU SEE AT THE OTHER PLACES THAT ARE EVEN CLOSE BY, THERE IS DEFINITELY A NEED. AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER SITE IN THIS AREA THAT WOULD BE BETTER. I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S CONCERN. I'VE WATCHED YOU GUYS AND OTHER SELF STORAGE'S NOT APPROVE THEM IN OTHER AREAS. I AGREED WITH SOME OF YOUR OTHER AREAS. THERE'S OTHER BETTER SITES. I DON'T THINK IN THIS AREA THERE IS A BETTER SITE BECAUSE OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. IN THE MID BLOCK ONE IS A HUGE ONE FOR RETAIL AND FOR RESTAURANTS. THAT REALLY IS TYPICALLY WHERE THEY WANT TO BE IS SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE'S AN INTERSECTION FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND YOU'VE SEEN HOW LONG THE MAIN CORRIDOR THROUGH BAYSIDE LAKES HAS TAKEN FOR THE COMMERCIAL TO ESTABLISH. YOU JUST APPROVED A STARBUCKS SPACE COAST CREDIT UNIONS COMING, THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT'S THE MAIN CORRIDOR, AND THAT'S JUST TAKING DECADES TO SLOWLY DEVELOP. SO WE THINK THE USE IS GREAT. THE ATTRACTIVENESS LOW TRAFFIC GENERATOR BECAUSE THAT CORRIDOR GETS TOUGH, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING. WE ALL KNOW THAT. AND THEN THAT'S STRANGE. TRANSITION OF THE LANES DOESN'T HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC. SO WE THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE POSITIVES FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE. AND AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S A BETTER ONE FOR THIS USE IN THIS AREA. BAYSIDE LAKES, WITH ALL THAT PENT UP DEMAND. SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 17 ACRES WEST OF THERE. THAT'S ALL. IT'S ALL WETLANDS. ALL WETLANDS CONSERVATION BREVARD COUNTY OWNED CAN BE DONE. OKAY. YEAH. AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS HAS SAT VACANT FOR DECADES. IT'S AS YOU SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT GOES BY. AND THERE JUST HASN'T BEEN ANY INTEREST. WE HAVE THE LANDOWNER HERE TONIGHT SO SHE CAN GIVE YOU A BETTER DETAILS THAN I CAN ABOUT THAT. BUT TO HAVE AT LEAST A COMMERCIAL TAX BASE THERE INSTEAD OF NOTHING TO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY NEED INSTEAD OF NOTHING, WE JUST THINK IT'S THE BEST BENEFIT FOR THE FOR PALM BAY. AND RIGHT NOW, I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR, BUT YOU KNOW, IT GETS TO ME IS IS I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T SEEN THE RESIDENTS IN THE CP THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND NO ONE, NO ONE ATTENDED. SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WITH THAT. THAT'S JUST ME. SO YOU KNOW I'VE DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF THOSE. YES, SIR. WHEN NO ONE ATTENDS, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE EITHER IN SUPPORT OR THEY'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION. WELL, THEY DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED. THERE'S THREE OTHER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OUT THERE. [00:55:03] RIGHT. WELL, THE MASTER ASSOCIATION WAS AND OF COURSE, THE ONE TO THE EAST I MENTIONED EARLIER. YOU'RE RIGHT THERE. WE DIDN'T REACH OUT TO EACH INDIVIDUAL. WE WE DON'T NORMALLY DO THAT. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER TIME BECAUSE I LIVE IN A FERRY CROSSINGS, WHICH IS PROBABLY LESS THAN FIVE 500 FOOT 574 RANGE ROAD. SO IT'S LITERALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. YEP. I DON'T RECALL. NEVER RECEIVED ANY, ANY NOTICE. THAT'S THAT'S A CONCERN AS WELL. I DO AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR. WHY DIDN'T I GET A NOTICE? SO YOU SAID THE NOTICE WAS SENT TO THE HOA. IT WAS 500 FOOT NOTICE. AND THEN. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION TO THE EAST WOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD PLEASE COUNCIL. UNLESS YOU TELL ME. NO. WE COULD ACTUALLY TABLE TONIGHT. REACH OUT TO THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO REACH OUT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND THEN COME BACK. WE HAVE TO COME BACK ANYWAY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE. AND THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU A HIGHER COMFORT LEVEL. YEAH. BEFORE BEFORE THAT YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GIVE AND AFFORD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER TO HAVE HIS QUESTIONS ANSWERED. SO. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, MA'AM. NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. SO, DEPUTY MAYOR. KNOW THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES MY MY, MY YOU KNOW. COMMENTS. OKAY. YEAH, I DO I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT I'LL BE CURIOUS TO, TO SEE OR TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY. WELL, THAT'S ONLY FAIR. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? WILL ALLOW YOU TO REBUT AFTER THE SPEAKERS COME. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, I THINK. OKAY. MISS GOSLOW. PUT. GOTTA GO, GOTTA GO. YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS PATRICIA BOLOGNA GARGIULO. I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY. WE'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY OVER 20 YEARS. I ACTUALLY AM A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS AS WELL. I'VE BEEN IN BREVARD COUNTY SINCE 1978. I PROBABLY BEAT A LOT OF YOU WITH THAT. I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. IN 1989 MY FATHER, GOD REST HIS SOUL, HE PASSED AWAY JUST THIS PAST FATHER'S DAY. WOW. HE WORKED THREE JOBS HIS ENTIRE LIFE AND SAVED MONEY AND WANTED TO DO WHATEVER HE COULD HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY TO IMPROVE THE COUNTY BUILDING, DEVELOPING WHATEVER IT TOOK. AND SO WE STARTED INVESTING IN REAL ESTATE IN 1989 HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY. ROCKLEDGE, TITUSVILLE, DOWN HERE IN PALM BAY. WE'VE DEVELOPED SHOPPING CENTERS, RETAIL SHOPPING CENTERS, OFFICE BUILDINGS AS WELL. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE VERY INTERESTED IN, THE PROPERTIES THAT WE'D BUY AND RESELL, IS ONLY RESELLING TO PEOPLE THAT WERE FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES AS WELL. THAT WAS A REAL CRITERIA FOR US AS A FAMILY. WE WANTED TO SEE THAT IT WASN'T SOME COMMERCIAL COMPANY THAT WAS GOING TO COME IN AND NOT REALLY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY LIKE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPANY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER CRITERIAS, THOUGH, THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO US. WHAT WAS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US? SO I WAS APPROACHED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY TO PUT A DAY CARE CENTER AND SCHOOL. AND YOUR LAND AND ZONING DEPARTMENT RIGHTLY TOLD THEM, AND I TOLD THEM THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. AND SURE ENOUGH, CELIA PALM BAY, PLANNING AND ZONING TOLD THEM. TOO MUCH TRAFFIC FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. SO ANOTHER ISSUE FOR THIS SITE WAS YOU HAVE TO FIND A BUSINESS THAT IS GOING TO BE LOW TRAFFIC, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY PROVIDE. THAT WAS THE ONLY OTHER COMPANY IN ALL THESE YEARS. AND THEY WERE THEY WERE A FAMILY BUSINESS TOO. LOCALLY HERE IN PALM BAY THAT WANTED TO DO IT, BUT IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE WAS GOING TO JUST BE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC ON KOGAN. IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR CORRIDOR SO THAT THIS PROJECT AND AGAIN, THE OTHER THING I LIKE ABOUT IT IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. YOU KNOW, USUALLY YOU LOOK AT THESE STORAGE FACILITIES AND SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE PRISONS TO ME. YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THEIR PICTURE, IT'S REALLY A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WE WANT TO SELL TO FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES. [01:00:01] AND THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY THE SECOND COMPANY. IS MY TIME UP? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO JUST FIRST OF ALL, I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS THIS PAST FATHER'S DAY. YEAH. NOW, WAS YOUR FATHER A WORLD WAR TWO VETERAN? WAS SO I. I HAD THE HONOR OF MEETING YOUR FATHER. IS THAT CORRECT? HE GRADUATED. OR HE LEFT HIGH SCHOOL TO GO FIGHT IN WORLD WAR TWO. HE DID. OKAY, I I'M I'M DRAWING. WHEN YOU MENTIONED YOUR MAIDEN NAME. YES. IT IT IT CLICKED BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY INDIVIDUAL I KNOW THAT. YES. YOU ARE SO GRACIOUS TO AWARD HIM HIS HONORARY HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA AT 95. WOW. BUT YES, HE DID JUST PASS AT 97 ON FATHER'S DAY. BUT IT WAS THROUGH HIS EFFORTS, THAT OF WORKING HARD AND, YOU KNOW, THE AMERICAN DREAM. WELL, YOU KNOW WORKING. THANK YOU, MA'AM, AND MAKING. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT. I WHAT A HUMBLE MAN HE WAS. AND IN A WORLD WAR TWO WAR HERO. YEAH. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL. FOR ALL THAT, FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS AND AND AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM. I JUST I JUST HAD A FLASHBACK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS. NO QUESTIONS. NO, NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. OH, COUNCIL. NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. ARE YOU STILL GOOD? NO QUESTIONS. NO QUESTION. OKAY. WHO ELSE DO WE HAVE? SPEAKER. ANOTHER SPEAKER. MR. ROBERT STICE. GOOD EVENING, ROBERT STILES. 1796 WINBURN DRIVE, SOUTHEAST. I'M AN OUT OF BOX KIND OF GUY. YOU GUYS KNOW HIM AND ANDY BOX KIND OF GUY. BUT WHAT? SAY THAT AGAIN. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T I DIDN'T. I AM AN OUT OF BOX OUT OF BOX KIND OF GUY. THANK YOU. THE WAY I TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, THERE ARE 17 HOA'S IN SUMMERFIELD AND ABOUT 3000 PEOPLE. THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. OKAY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IS GO TO FAIRWAY MANAGEMENT, WHO TYPICALLY MANAGES MOST OF THOSE HOA'S TO GET THE WORD OUT. YOU CAN ALSO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE PRESIDENTS OF EACH HOA. SO SOME OF THEM HAVE BOARDS, SOME OF THEM HAVE MAILINGS, DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, MY OWN OPINION IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF 3000 PEOPLE IN THERE REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE A THIRD OR A FOURTH OR FIFTH STORAGE UNIT IN THERE. OKAY. YEAH. THEY'RE UGLY. YOU DRIVE BY THEM EVERY DAY AND IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD FEELING. I HATE PALM BAY TO BE LOOKED AT AS THE BEDROOM COMMUNITY AND THE CAR WASH COMMUNITY AND THE STORAGE UNIT, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY THERE IS A WAY TO REACH THESE PEOPLE. NOW, I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE SIDE BUT I'VE KIND OF BEEN INDISPOSED FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS ON WHAT WE CAN DO WITH CPW MEETINGS. I MEAN, WE HAVE TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET THE FOLKS INVOLVED, AND THAT'S ONE WAY YOU CAN DO IT. AGAIN, I, I DIGRESS ON I SPENT 20 YEARS IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE VERY WELL IN A PHONE COMPANY. SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? TO GET TWO PEOPLE SHOWING UP IS PATHETIC AT BEST. SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH REGARDLESS OF THE WAY WE THE WAY YOU GOING TO VOTE THIS EVENING? THE DEAL IS TO YOUR POINT, MR. MAYOR, IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO GET THE FOLKS INVOLVED, BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THE FOLKS, AND THAT TRULY IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT. SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. ALSO, THE POA PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT MEETS I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER, I THINK IT'S THE LAST TUESDAY OF EVERY MONTH. IT COULD BE THE LAST WEDNESDAY THAT REPRESENT EVERYBODY THAT'S MARRIED TO THEM, I.E. THE 17 HOA'S. SO THERE IS A WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE FOLKS, THE OVER 3000 PEOPLE NOW IN 17 HOA'S AND MAKE UP BAYSIDE LAKES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKER. STEP RIGHT UP, SIR. YOU'VE GOT A. YEAH. GO AHEAD, TURN IT IN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT FOR COMING IN LATE. THAT'S NOT THE WAY I LIKE TO DO BUSINESS. NUMBER TWO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NOTIFICATION OF PEOPLE WITHIN A 500 FOOT RADIUS AND THEN SAYING, WELL, WHY DIDN'T THIS COMPANY DO MORE THAN THAT? HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAID, YOU'RE CHANGING THE ZONING OF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU'RE CHANGING THE ZONING OF IT, AND YOU SAY, WELL, WE ONLY HAVE TO GO 500FT OUT, AND YOU MIGHT GET THREE RESIDENTS OUT ON THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, IF THAT. [01:05:03] BUT YOU DIDN'T SEEM TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT NOTIFYING ALL THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS THAT ALL THIS TRAFFIC WAS GOING TO BE COMING ONTO. YOU WEREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO WHY SHOULD WE NOW BE CONCERNED ON WHY THIS ONE COMPANY DOESN'T HAVE TO DO EXTRA WORK? BECAUSE YOU WANTED MORE PEOPLE TO BE UPSET. I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SAME CONCERN. WE WANT TO SEE MORE PEOPLE UPSET ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN. I WANT TO SEE MORE PEOPLE UPSET WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SEE TREES IN DIAMETERS 15FT IN DIAMETERS, BEING TAKEN DOWN BY BUILDING DEPARTMENTS WHERE YOUR CITY APPROVES THEIR, THE DEVELOPMENT, STUFF LIKE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE THE ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT IN, GET PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT, NOT THIS ONE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO SUCCEED. RESTAURANTS RIGHT NOW ARE FAILING. THE ONLY BUSINESS THAT'S SUCCEEDING RIGHT NOW HAPPENS TO BE STORAGE UNITS. THEY'RE LOW IMPACT ON TRAFFIC. THEY'RE LOW IMPACT ON DAILY INTERRUPTION. IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS. IT INCREASES YOUR TAX REVENUE WITH A BUSINESS THAT DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT. IS IT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE? MAYBE NOT, BUT I'VE WATCHED ALL THE FAILURES WITHIN THE CITY BECAUSE YOU GAVE OTHER THINGS. BUT WHY IS THIS ONE BUSINESS A BAD BUSINESS? YOU KNOW, I'M I THINK THEY MADE A GOOD CHOICE ON BEING HERE. AND I SPEAK AGAINST THIS GENTLEMAN ALL THE TIME WHEN THEY'RE DOING DEVELOPMENTS I DON'T LIKE. THIS ONE IS I THINK IS A GOOD THING. RIGHT. SO FIRST OFF, WHY CHANGE THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR ONE FOR ONE COMPANY? THEY DID WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. THEY HELD THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS. THEY GOT THE LIST OF RESIDENTS AFFECTED WITHIN 500FT. THEY DID THAT THEY DIDN'T. AND THEN PEOPLE WEREN'T CONCERNED OR THEY AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. MAKE THE PEOPLE BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. NUMBER TWO, THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT SUCCEEDING IS GOING TO BRING BUSINESS MONEY, REVENUE INTO THE TAX BECAUSE THEY'LL BE TAXED AS A BUSINESS INSTEAD OF VACANT LAND. IT'S A TAX REVENUE FOR US. THEIR IMPACTS WILL BE FELT. AND NUMBER THREE RESTAURANTS I KNOW THEY'RE GREAT TO VISIT, BUT THEY'RE FAILING LEFT AND RIGHT. RIGHT NOW THE ECONOMY DOESN'T SUPPORT IT. SO YOU WANT MORE PEOPLE PAID FOR A RESTAURANT AT MINIMUM WAGE? THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY FOR EMPLOYMENT? I PERSONALLY AM IN FAVOR OF THIS BUSINESS COMING IN, AND I KNOW THAT PISSES OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS COUNCIL? SIR. YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT. THANK YOU. AND I THINK I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES MR. BATTEN HAS SUPPORTED ONE OF MY PROJECTS. OH, SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU. I THINK I CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND HOW MANY TIMES MR. BATTEN HAS SUPPORTED ONE OF MY PROJECTS, SO THANK YOU. THE AND AGAIN, THE ESTHETICS OF THE SITE, THE WAY THAT WE SET IT BACK THE SITE, THE WAY WE PUSHED IT BACK, THE LOW TRAFFIC. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE DAYCARE BEFORE THAT. THE THEY DID TRY TO DO THAT BUSINESS AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, TOLD BY STAFF. IT'S TOO MUCH. IT'S TOO TRAFFIC. RESTAURANTS ARE THE SAME THING. RETAIL IS THE SAME THING. CAN I CAN I JUST, SIR, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD SHOW THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE PROJECT? BECAUSE MR. STICE. YEAH. MR.. STICE HAD A HAD AN ISSUE WITH WHAT IT WHAT THE APPEARANCE WOULD BE AND AND I WANTED TO HIM TO GET A VISUAL OF THIS. I MEAN, YOU COULD CARRY ON UNTIL. OKAY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. SO THE AUDIENCE CAN SEE WHAT I WAS LOOKING TO MR. SPACE. DID YOU WANT TO SEE IT? OH, HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY. YEAH, HE'S GOT TO HAVE THE. CAN YOU SEND IT TO HIM, SIR? CAN YOU DISPLAY THAT FOR THE AUDIENCE? SHE JUST SENT YOU THE LINK. IT'S JUST A LINK TO THE AGENDA PACKET PAGE. JONATHAN, JUST SO YOU KNOW. JAKE WHILE WE'RE WAITING. YEAH. HOW MANY UNITS? HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS? IS A PROJECT? THIS WOULD BE 830 UNITS. TOTALLY INTERIOR TO THE BUILDING INSIDE. ALL INSIDE, ONLY INSIDE. AND THEY HAVE BIG DOORS THAT OPEN UP JUST LIKE THE FRONT OF AN OFFICE BUILDING. THE ARCHITECTURE, IN MY OPINION, IS VERY ATTRACTIVE FLORIDA VERNACULAR, AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH THEM ON IT. AND JUST JUMPING BACK TO THE CP MEETINGS. TYPICALLY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE ATTEND, IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE IN SUPPORT THE WAY THAT THE PO'S COMMUNICATE NOW, SOCIAL MEDIA, EVERYTHING ELSE. [01:10:07] IF THERE'S ONE UPSET RESIDENT, THEY'LL HAPPY TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY ELSE AROUND. WE FELT LIKE THIS USE IN THIS LOCATION, AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T GET ANY PUSHBACK WAS BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT OPPOSED TO. YEAH, THERE WE GO. OKAY. WE GOT IT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. FROM THE STREET. YEAH. SO YEAH, I WANTED THE AUDIENCE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE IN PARTICULAR, MR. STICE MENTIONED THE APPEARANCE OF IT. IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL STORAGE LOCATION. SO PEOPLE WOULD PARK AND THEN GO INSIDE AND THEIR. WHAT ARE THEY, TEN BY TEN? FIVE BY TEN? YES, SIR. SO THE PEOPLE, THE FIVE BY FIVE, YOU SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE OFFICE. YES. SO THAT'S WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES WOULD BE. OKAY. THERE'S TWO LOADING AREAS ON THE FRONT. YOU SEE THE CANOPIES? KIND OF THERE'S. VANNA WHITE WILL PRESENT HERE. RIGHT HERE. YEAH. WHAT IS THAT? OKAY, THAT'S THE DOORWAY. YEAH. SO THEY'RE JUST LIKE YOU WALK WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE GROCERY STORE AND YOU HAVE THE GLASS DOORS THAT OPEN FOR YOU. THAT'S THE SAME, SAME EXACT DOOR SYSTEM WE USE. SO YOU'LL WALK UP, GLASS DOORS OPEN. YOU HAVE A LOADING LOBBY THERE. AND YOU CAN GO TO THE ELEVATOR AND GO TO A DIFFERENT FLOOR OR GO TO YOUR UNIT ON THAT FLOOR. YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE CARTS THAT ARE BRANDED, YOU KNOW, FOR US AND, AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WHEN FOLKS AND THIS IS THREE ACRES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THAT'S THAT'S THE THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT THE OWNERS HAVE BEEN HAVING. JAKE. IT'S A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY. AND THEN IT JUST GOES INTO THE RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR. YEAH. RELATIVELY SMALL. HAS THE WETLANDS BEHIND IT MID-BLOCK. THERE'S A CANAL TO THE SOUTH. AND IT'S A STRANGE LOCATION WHERE THE ROAD NARROWS DOWN TO TWO LANES. ONCE YOU GET PAST PINEAPPLE COVE AND ODYSSEY. SO, YEAH, IT'S JUST NOT A STRONG COMMERCIAL LOCATION. HOW? AND I GUESS THIS THIS THIS IS FOR YOU, SIR. HOW DO YOU PUT STUFF IN THERE? YOU HAVE BIG WALKWAYS TO YES TO. OKAY. YEAH. SO THERE'S PRETTY LARGE FIVE FOOT WIDE CORRIDORS. OKAY. WELL LIT. WE PLAY MUSIC IN THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WANT IT TO FEEL GOOD WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN THERE. EVERYTHING'S KIND OF WHITE. WHITE ROLL UP DOORS, AND IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE PRODUCT IS TO BE CLEAN AND NICE. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL REALLY COMFORTABLE. YOU WANT YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR DAUGHTER, YOUR SISTER, YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOLKS TO BE COMFORTABLE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S IT FEELS REALLY GOOD. BUT YOU'D WALK IN ONE OF THESE DOORS, YOU'D HIT THE LOADING LOBBY. AND IT'S IT'S KIND OF A CORRIDOR. RIGHT CORRIDOR, LEFT CORRIDOR STRAIGHT. OR YOU CAN HOP ON AN ELEVATOR AND GO TO THE SECOND OR THIRD FLOOR. YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A STORE. TYPICAL STORAGE FACILITY. RIGHT? RIGHT. YES. DO THAT. YEAH. SO THE IDEA IS THAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IT COULD BE AN OFFICE BUILDING, RIGHT? YES. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF A SUBURBAN OFFICE BUILDING, NOT SOMETHING REAL URBAN. YOU KNOW, MIXED MATERIALS. WE USE OFFICE, WE USE HARDY, WE USE BRICK AND TRY AND CREATE DIFFERENT OFFSETS. SO IT'S COMING IN AND OUT. IS IT 24 OVER SEVEN? IT'S NOT 24 OVER SEVEN. NO, BUT IT IS 100% CONTROLLED ACCESS. SO YOU NEED TO ENTER YOUR CODE, WHICH YOU GIVE US WHEN YOU SIGN YOUR LEASE IN ORDER TO ACCESS THE BUILDING. SO NOT JUST ANYONE GO IN THE BUILDING, YOU HAVE TO BE A TENANT. YEAH. BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S INDOORS. YEAH. AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCESS THE BUILDING. I THINK WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW BETWEEN 11 AND 6 A.M.. OKAY. WE JUST FIGURE IF YOU NEED TO, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO YOUR UNIT AT TWO IN THE MORNING. NOW, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE'LL GET, LIKE, A MAYBE A MUSICIAN WHO FINISHES A GIG TO MAYBE GO STORE STUFF EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE. BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ACCESS THE BUILDING. YOUR CODE JUST WON'T WORK IN THOSE THOSE HOURS. AND THEN OUR EMPLOYEES ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YEAH. OUR OFFICE HAS DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF STORAGE UNITS. I'VE NEVER WORKED WITH A CLIENT. THAT'S TAKEN SO MUCH TIME. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY AGAIN. SORRY. SO OUR OFFICE HAS DONE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF SELF STORAGE PROJECTS. I HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH A CLIENT THAT HAS TAKEN SO MUCH TIME TO DO A SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURE TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS THEY DID JUST RESEARCHING THE AREA GOING. THEY SAID TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF GROUPS TO THE SURROUNDING STORAGE UNITS TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, SEE HOW BUSINESS IS. THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY REALLY DID A SITE SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURE FOR THIS THAT FITS IN. AND I JUST THINK THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB AND HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK. AND I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ANOTHER USE THAT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THIS SITE. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? OH, YES. YOUR REBUTTAL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NO OTHER SPEAKERS, RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT AND ASK FOR A MOTION. [01:15:04] SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. OH, MR. BATTEN, YOU FLIPPED ME. YOU FLIPPED ME ON THIS ONE, SIR. YOU FLIPPED ME ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I'M GUNG HO, BUT IT MAKES SENSE. AND EVEN AS I DRIVE AROUND, RESTAURANTS ARE CLOSING WAGONWHEEL STATION 45, WHICH I TALKED ABOUT DURING THE CRA MEETING WHEN THE GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING HE WANTED TO BUILD A RESTAURANT UNDER HIS HOUSE OR SOMETHING. YOU REMEMBER WENDY'S? YOU KNOW, BABCOCK, I MEAN, ALL ALL OVER, EVEN IN WEST MELBOURNE, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HIGHEST OF TRAFFIC. I'M SEEING EMPTY RESTAURANTS, TGIF, I'M TGIF JUST CLOSED. SO I'M SEEING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TOO, SIR. AND YEAH, I THINK UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE WITH THE ECONOMY. SO I GET IT, I GET IT, AND, YOU KNOW YOUR FATHER'S STILL WITH YOU, MA'AM? HE'S STILL WITH YOU. SO THAT JUST. HE IS. I KNOW MY GRANDFATHER'S STILL WITH ME, SO TALKING ABOUT THEM IS WHAT KEEPS THEM ALIVE. YOU KNOW, KEEPING THAT MEMORY KEEPS THEM ALIVE. BUT I'M IN SUPPORT, MAYOR OF THIS PROJECT. ESPECIALLY WITH THE LOCATION WITH THE KOGAN RIGHT THERE. I KNOW THEY'RE EXPANDING OVER THERE WITH THE DMV AND ALL THAT. BUT I CAN'T. I WAS LOOKING, I KEPT LOOKING, I'M LIKE, I CAN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING ELSE GOING OUT THERE AND THRIVING. SO FOR THIS CASE, I'M OKAY WITH SUPPORTING, SIR. YEAH. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I AGREE. MASTER CHIEF BATTEN REALLY, REALLY SPOKE TO MY HEART. YEAH. FIRST OF ALL, I'M A PROPERTY RIGHTS INDIVIDUAL, BUT I'M ALL ABOUT CREATING JOBS. AND I'VE I'VE PREACHED THAT ON THE DAIS, AS YOU KNOW. BUT WE GOT TO ME WAS THE FACT THAT FOR 20 YEARS, SOMEONE'S OWNED THREE, THREE ACRES TRYING TO SELL IT, AND THEY'VE HAD TWO OPPORTUNITIES IN 20 YEARS. SO THAT THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. AND THEN THE THE OTHER PART WAS THE ILLUSTRATION OF IT. IT LOOKED LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING. SO I, I HAVE VOTED JAKE, MR. WISE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE LED THE CHARGE TO VOTE AGAINST STORAGE FACILITIES. I THINK THIS IS THE WRONG, WRONG PROJECT TO TO DO THAT. WHAT I'VE LEARNED TODAY IS THAT YOU CANNOT HAVE A COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH WHEN YOU SIT ON THIS DAIS. YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TO ADJUST TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AND WEIGH THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. AND, AND THE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IN MY VIEW, THE PREPONDERANCE WAS TIPPED TOWARDS THE, THE THE PROJECT. AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY SPEAKS VOLUMES TO ME BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH OUR RESTAURANT INDUSTRY, I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED TO HAVE A RED LOBSTER OR SOMETHING THERE, BUT FOR IT TO FAIL. HEY, THEY'RE CLOSING STORES, RIGHT? SO I'LL BE I'LL BE VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. OKAY. COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. NO COMMENT. NO. NO COMMENT, SIR. NO COMMENTS. ALL RIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. MY. MY CONCERN IS, I MEAN, AND I GET IT. I'D LOVE AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO SEE ANOTHER USE IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. AND I DO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, MARKET TREND, MARKET DRIVEN PRODUCTS AS WELL. A MY CONCERN STILL REMAIN. I, LIKE I SAID, I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET NOT HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST SEEN THAT PROJECT. IT'S CONCERNS ME. I THINK WE WE ON THIS DAIS SERVE YOU GUYS. SERVE THE RESIDENTS. I THINK HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAY SO. YAY OR NAY. BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I WILL. I'M ACCOUNTABLE TO THE RESIDENTS. I'M ACCOUNTABLE TO THE MANDATES. YOU KNOW, MR. STICE HE'S ONE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE AND THEY THEY MY HOA PRESIDENT HAPPENED TO KNOW I LIVE IN THERE AS WELL. I WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. THEY SO SO MY POSITION, AS MUCH AS I SEE THE NEED, I UNDERSTAND BASED ON THE SPEAKERS, AND MY POSITION WILL CHANGE ON THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT. I THINK THE DEVELOPER, THE APPLICANT, WE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONCERNING TO ME. I LIVE LESS THAN 500FT FROM THE PROJECT, NOT BEING NOTIFIED. AND TO CORRECT YOU, MR. BATTEN, IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT RESPONDING. IN MY CASE PARTICULARLY, THIS WOULD CAUGHT MY ATTENTION. BUT I CAN GUARANTEE YOU I WAS NOT NOTIFIED. [01:20:03] IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM THAT THAT CONCERNS ME. I THINK THE APPLICANT GOT TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN PUT THEIR BEST FOOT FORWARD WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE RESIDENT AND SEND PROPER NOTICE. ASSURE THAT PEOPLE DO WHATEVER CHANNEL THEY USE. BECAUSE OF THAT, I STILL I WON'T I WON'T SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND YOU SECOND IT. SO COUNCILMAN FOSTER. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I SUPPORT THE PROJECT. I LISTENED TO BOTH SIDES, AND I THINK IT'S A NEEDED PROJECT. IT'S SO. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS ON IT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, I HEAR YOUR POINT. AND I REALLY WANT TO COME TO A RESOLUTION. I, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AND THEN TO REQUIRE A BUSINESS OWNER TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE ASK ANYBODY ELSE? IT MAY NOT. IT DOESN'T SIT WELL. SO ALTHOUGH I, I VALIDATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DEPUTY MAYOR, I TRULY DO. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A THIN LINE HERE, AND LISTEN, I DON'T WANT I WANT TO CREATE JOBS, BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S A PERFECT FIT FOR THE AREA. IT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING. AND A PROPERTY RIGHTS ISSUE WITH THE OWNER. 20 YEARS AND TWO. TWO PROPOSALS. THE FIRST ONE WAS SHOT DOWN AS WELL. SO I'M GOING TO MOVE. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE OR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MAYOR, YOU STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON NUMBER THREE. OH. COPY THAT. SORRY, MADAM. SHERMAN. YES, MAYOR. YOU'RE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE ITEM BE CONSIDERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FINAL READING OF THE REZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR THE JULY 11TH, 2024 REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY. I'LL NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO MOVE. RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 19 TO THE JULY 11TH, 2024 MEETING. SECOND. I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM FOUR. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. ITEM FOUR. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KEN LUDWIG, WITH BSC CONSULTANTS REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. PALM BAY STORE NOW. WE'RE ACTUALLY HERE FOR AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE. THAT IS FOR THE PRELIMINARY PLAT AND THE FINAL PLAT. FOR FOR THIS APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLAT APPROVAL TO ALLOW A SUBDIVISION TO SUBDIVIDE THEIR PROPERTY INTO TWO LOTS. CALLED THE PLAT NAME IS CALLED STORE NOW. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON MALABAR ROAD IN FRONT OF THE HIGH SCHOOL, ABOUT A HALF MILE WEST OF THE PARKWAY. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE CONDITIONAL USE WAS WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL LAST YEAR AND A SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED. A STORAGE FACILITY IS BEING BUILT ON LOT ONE ON WHAT WOULD BE LOT ONE, AND THAT IS 6.7 ACRES, INCLUDING ALSO THE STORMWATER POND, WHICH WILL SERVE BOTH LOT ONE AND LOT TWO. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY THE PURPOSE OF SUBDIVIDING THE PROPERTY IS TO CREATE LOT TWO FOR, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THE STORAGE FACILITY IS INDOOR STORAGE. IT'S ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO THE THE APPLICATION WE JUST WE JUST HAD IN FRONT OF US. [01:25:01] SO THAT, HOWEVER, THE STORAGE FACILITY IS NOT WHAT ISN'T REALLY THE APPLICATION TONIGHT, BUT RATHER THE, THE SUBDIVISION TO CREATE THE ADDITIONAL LOT FOR, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ZONING CONDITIONS. AGAIN. COMMUNITY. COMMERCIAL. THE JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE ABOUT THE THE WAY THE THE PROPERTY WILL WORK IS THERE'S A DRIVEWAY ON MALABAR ROAD. IT WILL SERVE BOTH THE STORAGE FACILITY AND THE THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT PARCEL. SO IT WILL BE A SHARED DRIVEWAY. AS I MENTIONED, THE STORMWATER POND THAT IS BEING BUILT ON LOT ONE WILL SERVE BOTH THE BOTH PARCELS. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS A TRACT TRACT A, WHICH IS ABOUT 0.58 ACRES, WHICH IS DEDICATED FOR FUTURE WIDENING OF MALABAR ROAD. SO THAT IS A PUBLIC BENEFIT THERE AS WELL. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. ALSO, THE APPLICANT, MR. PAUL NEVINS, IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DIRECTLY FOR THE APPLICANT. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? WHEN WE SAY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? OR. BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER STORAGE UNIT. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE STORAGE. THAT ACTUALLY THAT CAME UP IN PNC. ALL RIGHT. HOW ABOUT NO. AND THERE WAS CONCERN THAT IT MIGHT BE. SO THE STORAGE FACILITY THAT IS BEING BUILT NOW IS ALL INDOOR STORAGE. THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT BEING, YOU KNOW, BOAT OR RV STORAGE. AND THAT IS NOT THE INTENT. HOW ABOUT PROBABLY RETAIL? OKAY. RETAIL. YEAH. WHAT KIND OF RETAIL? NOT SURE. OKAY. JUST RETAIL. YEAH. SO FOR THE RECORD, IT'LL BE RETAIL. OKAY. WELL, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL WE AND WE UNITED ON THIS FRONT IN REGARDS TO WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A STORAGE NEXT TO A STORAGE OR A CAR WASH OVER THERE, SO. UNDERSTOOD. YES, SIR. AND WHAT IS THE I GUESS THIS QUESTION IS BETTER FOR STAFF. THE CUP MENTIONED. DOES THAT EXPIRE ANYTIME? I DON'T KNOW IF LISA KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. BUT I CAN LOOK IT UP WHILE THE COUNCIL IS DISCUSSING. IF YOU CAN, LET US KNOW. SURE. OKAY. SO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIRED CONSTRUCTION TO START WITHIN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME. AND CONSTRUCTION? CONSTRUCTION HAS ALREADY STARTED ALREADY? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. COPY THAT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN? DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN FOSTER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. YES. SPEAKERS. A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS. OKAY. A COUPLE OF SPEAKER CARDS. MR. BILL BATTEN, MASTER CHIEF. OH. YOU GOT PROMOTED, SIR. OKAY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I LOOKED I WATCHED THE PLANNING AND ZONING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I GREATLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY'VE EXPANDED THEIR STORM WATER TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH BUILDS. SO WE DIDN'T RUN INTO A CONFLICT THERE. BUT THE REASON WHY I PULLED THIS CARD TO TALK ON IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT APPEARS WHEN SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND YOU GET THERE AND YOU SAY, WELL, HERE'S A REQUEST FOR A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN, THAT'S PRELIMINARY, AND YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON IT. AND THEN THE VERY NEXT ITEM IS FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN. SO IF THERE WAS ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT SOMETHING, WE HAVE THEM BACK TO BACK. IT'S WHY HAVE BACK TO BACK VOTES WHEN THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO GET GET INPUT, GET AND THEN MAKE A DECISION ON IT AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE CORRECTIONS. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE BOTH THE PRIMARY, THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAN BACK TO BACK. WHY? YOU EVEN HAVE TWO PLANS. WHY'D YOU SAY BRING ONE AND WE'LL SEND YOU ON YOUR MERRY WAY? YEAH. I'M JUST. WHY? I'M JUST QUESTIONING THE THE PROCEDURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. JOAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE HISTORY ON WHY WE CHANGED THAT TO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL BEING TOGETHER? IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A PERMANENT CHANGE. WE AFFORD APPLICANTS TO SUBMIT THEM CONCURRENTLY IF THEY SHOULD CHOOSE. IN THIS INSTANCE, IT'S SORT OF LIKE A LOT SPLIT. IT'S REALLY ONLY CREATING TWO OR I THINK THERE'S MAYBE THREE BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER TRACT IN THERE. IF IT WAS A SIGNIFICANT. PUD PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT'S SOMETHING. UNLESS THE TWO HAVE BEEN GOING CONCURRENTLY AND THEY'RE IDENTICAL OR SUBSTANTIALLY IN CONFORMANCE WITH ONE ANOTHER. I DON'T KNOW THAT STAFF WOULD SUPPORT BRINGING THEM BOTH FORWARD AT THE SAME COUNCIL MEETING, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE. [01:30:08] SO IT'S NOT A REGULAR OCCURRENCE THAT WE WOULD BRING THEM FORWARD TOGETHER. THANK YOU. MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR, NEXT SPEAKER. NO DISCOUNT CODE FOR THIS ITEM. THAT'S IT. ONCE. OKAY, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ANY COMMENTS? NO, NO. NO COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I. ISAIAH PASSES FOUR ZERO. NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. NOTHING TO ADD. SAME. I WOULD MAKE THE SAME PRESENTATION THAT I JUST DID. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. BILL BATTEN. YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS. [BUSINESS:] ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 24 DASH 20 2024. THAT'S 20 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2023 DASH 19, SECTION THREE, BY EXTENDING THE COMMENCEMENT PERIOD OF THE CONDITIONAL USE GRANTED FOR RETAIL, AUTOMOTIVE, GAS, FUEL SALES AND CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ZONING. WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND EMERSON DRIVE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM. MADAM SHERMAN YES, THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS AN EXTENSION OF AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE FOR A GAS STATION AT THE CORNER OF SAINT JOHNS AND EMERSON. THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL WAS FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR PERIOD. THEY'RE WELL UNDERWAY IN THE THE SITE REVIEW. AND SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. YEAH, I DO. THE LAST TIME WE HAD SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS COUNCIL AGREED TO A SIX MONTH EXTENSION. AND I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT COMPROMISE AS OPPOSED TO GRANTING THE FULL YEAR. SO I GUESS, WOULD YOU KNOW, IF, IF SIX MONTHS WOULD DO FOR THE ACTUAL APPLICANT, THE APPLICANTS HERE. SO. OKAY. COME ON, STEP FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. CARLO BAISDEN WITH PURSUIT DEVELOPMENT AND ASCOT PALM BAY HOLDINGS. SO GET CLOSER TO THE MIC. THANK YOU. OR BRING IT CLOSE TO YOU. YES, SIR. WE DO NOT WANT THIS CONDITIONAL USE TO EXPIRE BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO OBTAIN SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND BEGIN CONSTRUCTION. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN IS WE HAVE BEEN. THE CIRCLE K DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN THE LARGER HERITAGE CORNERS DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH THE MASTER DEVELOPER ON A CROSS ACCESS AND AN EASEMENT THAT IS, THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINISHED UP UNTIL RECENTLY. AND OUR ATTORNEY IS REVIEWING IT, AND WE WILL BE SUBMITTING IT WITH OUR PAPERWORK FOR THE PERMITS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS, AND THE OTHER BEING JUST HAVING TO COORDINATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SMALL PARCEL WITHIN A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, CAN YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN IN SIX MONTHS WITH SIX MONTHS HELP YOU AS OPPOSED TO. YEAH. THANK YOU. IT WOULD HELP. A YEAR WOULD BE BETTER IF WE CAN GET IT. BUT IF SIX MONTHS IS ALL WE CAN GET, THEN MAYBE IF WE NEED MORE TIME, WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND REVISIT THIS. WE ARE HOPING TO RECEIVE PERMITS BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, SO WE'RE BEING HOPEFUL THAT SIX MONTHS WILL BE SUFFICIENT. BUT IF YOU WOULD BE KIND AND INCLINED TO TO GRANT THIS LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS, WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. SEE, MY MY MY THOUGHT IS IT'S NEEDED THERE YESTERDAY. RIGHT. IT'S NEEDED THERE YESTERDAY. AND AND TO HAVE THAT CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW FUNCTIONAL IT'S CRITICAL THAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I WANT TO LIGHT A FIRE UNDERNEATH YOUR, YOUR FEET. RIGHT. SO I WOULD, I WOULD PREFER THE SIX MONTHS. I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. AND OUR SENTIMENT IS, IS SIMILAR BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE FINISHED WITH THIS PROJECT SO IT CAN BE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN. THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN SUCH THAT WE'RE OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. WE WERE NOT ABLE TO PUSH THE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO GIVE US THIS EASEMENT QUICKER. [01:35:05] SO THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN TIME JUST BECAUSE IT'S A BIGGER DEVELOPMENT AND THE RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS HAVE TO BE DRAFTED LEGALLY AND BE APPROVED. NOW THAT THAT'S DONE, THOUGH, I THINK YOU COULD ACTION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO US NOT LONG AGO, I WOULD SAY WITHIN ABOUT MAYBE 2 TO 3 WEEKS AGO, OUR ATTORNEY HAS BEEN REVIEWING IT, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING THAT TO THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THEN CONTINUING THE PERMITTING PROCESS. OKAY, I LIKE I LIKE SIX MONTHS. GENTLEMAN. FOR ME THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS, MAYBE NINE, BUT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE AS WELL IN THE PAST. SO DON'T FEEL WE'RE SINGLING YOU OUT. IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE REASON IT'S GIVEN IS SO THAT THERE COULD BE SOME ACTION BEHIND IT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES. AN EXTENSION WOULD BE AN EXTENSION. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS OR. ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. COUNCILMAN. FOSTER. ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? NO. NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR. SO ANY ARE YOU CONCLUDE DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? IT DOES. IF WE MAY HAVE A COMPROMISE, NINE MONTHS WOULD BE BETTER THAN SIX. BUT I WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU. AND AGAIN, WE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN OUR POWER TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD. WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING AS A DEVELOPER TO GET TO THAT FINISH LINE. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN DONE ON OUR PART. IT'S JUST THAT THE PROCESS HAS TAKEN LONGER AND WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, WE CANNOT WE CANNOT PUSH THEM ANY MORE THAN WE HAVE. I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND, SIR, I APPRECIATE THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS ALAN MILES. I LIVE IN NORTHEAST PALM BAY OFF EMERSON ROAD. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 40 YEARS. THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET THROUGH. BUT FIRST OF ALL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE EMERSON ROAD AND HERITAGE PARKWAY, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE, AND THERE WON'T BE ONE UNTIL THE WAWA IS BUILT BECAUSE THERE'S NO POWER. SO WE'RE DEALING WITH AN EXPEDITED PROCESS TO GET THEM TO BUILD SOMETHING. AND I UNDERSTAND ALL THE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT'S GOING ON, BUT IT STILL IS A HARDSHIP FOR ANYBODY THAT LIVES ANYWHERE NEAR THAT AREA. THAT'S TRYING TO USE EMERSON AND HERITAGE PARKWAY. SO WHILE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ROADWAYS TO HELP MOVE PEOPLE IN PALM BAY, THEY'RE NOT, BECAUSE THERE'S A BOTTLENECK EVERY SINGLE DAY. ALSO, I WANT TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE PLANS TO PUT IN ANY ANY LETTERS AT THAT AREA SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO BE DRAWING POWER THERE IF THERE'S ANY STIPULATIONS IN PLANNING AND ZONING. AND THEN LASTLY, I HAVE A COMPANY THAT I SPOKE TO THE CITY MANAGER ABOUT THAT DOES TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT UP A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT HERITAGE PARKWAY SO WE CAN PROVIDE SAFETY FOR THE STUDENTS WHEN THEY COME IN AND OUT OF THAT. THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR, TRYING TO GET A LIGHT THERE ON JUNE 6TH THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE BIDS. NO BIDS WERE RETURNED. SO THAT PROCESS HAS BEEN PUT ON HOLD. AND SINCE NOW IT'S ON HOLD, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE SCHOOL YEAR STARTS. I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LOOKED AT. I'D ALSO LIKE TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A THREE WAY STOP AS A TEMPORARY MEANS. AND YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT GENTLEMAN WITH THE STORAGE FACILITY. IT WOULD CREATE A MAJOR HAZARD. IF YOU HAVE RETAIL THERE AND YOU HAVE 200 KIDS GETTING OUT OF SCHOOL AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE CROSS TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE THROUGH TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE NO TRAFFIC, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. IT'S JUST A ZOO DOWN THERE. IT'S HORRIBLE. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY COULD NOT BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE WELFARE OF OUR CHILDREN, WHICH ARE NOT EXPERIENCED DRIVERS IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ALREADY BEEN HOW MANY DOZENS OF ACCIDENTS DOWN THERE. SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS. THREE CONCERNS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY. SO YOU CAN COMMENT AND REBUT, ESPECIALLY ABOUT THE RAPID CHARGERS THAT HE WAS REFERRING TO. AND THEN MADAM SHERMAN, I, I LIKE TO WORK ON HERITAGE AND MALABAR, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM. THANK YOU, SIR, IF I MAY CORRECT CIRCLE ADDRESS ME. EXCUSE ME. CIRCLE K GAS STATION INSTEAD OF THE WAWA THAT THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED. WAWA, THIS IS CIRCLE K. WE ARE DOING THIS PROJECT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CIRCLE K. I DO HAVE TO CONFIRM WITH OUR ENGINEER AND THE CIRCLE K DESIGN DEPARTMENT TO SEE IF THERE ARE FAST CHARGING STATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED. SO UNFORTUNATELY, AT THIS TIME I'M NOT ABLE TO ANSWER. WELL I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. [01:40:05] MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 20 WITH AMENDING THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION TO NINE MONTHS. I'LL SECOND THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. NINE MONTHS EXTENSION. IDEALLY, YOU COULD GET IT DONE WITHIN SIX. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO. NINE MONTHS, SIR. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2427, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 53 STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARATION. SUBCHAPTER. NATURAL, MANMADE OR TECHNOLOGICAL EMERGENCY OR DISASTER. A MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. MADAM SHERMAN. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS A AN UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE SO THAT THE WAY WE START TO DECLARE A LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY IS THE SAME WAY WE END THE LOCAL STATE OF EMERGENCY. SO THE CURRENT LANGUAGE PROVIDES THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER CAN ISSUE ESSENTIALLY A LEGISLATIVE ORDER TO START THE EMERGENCY. RIGHT NOW, THE LANGUAGE SAYS THAT THE EMERGENCY WILL EXTEND FOR SEVEN DAYS UNLESS IT IS ENDED SOONER OR EXTENDED BY CALLING A COUNCIL MEETING. SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS CHANGE IT SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY END EMERGENCY DECLARATION SOONER IF NEEDED, BY SIMPLY DOING THE SAME LEGISLATIVE ORDER PROCESS WITH THE THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER. PART OF THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT PROVIDES A CLEAR END TO THE TIME WHEN WE'RE HANDLING EMERGENCY PAY. AND THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL FOR FEMA PURPOSES AS WELL. SO THANK YOU. SO AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, ITEM B THAT'S CHANGED. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF. ANYONE ELSE SECOND? BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. FIRST, I FIND IT WRONG THAT THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WHEN YOU DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO HAVE JUNE MEETINGS. I JUST FIND THAT STRANGE. THAT'S NOT ITEM NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO. REZONING OF LAND TO RS2. AND THE WAY I'M ADDRESSING THIS IS BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER ORDINANCES. THAT'S WHY I'M ADDRESSING IT NOW, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS OTHER ORDINANCES. CHANGED LAND OUT BY ME FOR A DEVELOPMENT TO COME IN AND ON THE PLANS THAT COME TO THE CITY, THEY PUT IN THE CITY'S PLANS. AND THIS IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS, IS THAT THEY SAID THERE WAS NO SIGNIFICANT TREES ON THEM. I JUST HAD THE CITY'S INSPECTORS WITH ME TODAY. AND WE HAVE TREES AND RADIUS 15FT IN DIAMETER. YET THEIR PLANS SAY NO SIGNIFICANT TREES. WHICH LEADS ME TO THE FINAL THING ON THIS TOPIC. ON THIS TOPIC, I DON'T AGREE, I AGREE, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND SUBJECT TO WHAT WE'RE TALKING THIS TOPIC, THAT'S ITEM NUMBER THREE, THIS TOPIC I HAD TO FIND A WAY TO ON ITEM WE'RE ON ITEM TWO, SIR. ITEM NUMBER TWO WHICH IS AMENDING EMERGENCY REDRESS. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I JUST HAD TO FIND A WAY TO ADDRESS MY COUNCIL. AND I GOT THAT IN THERE AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING. YOU FIND A WAY TO MANIPULATE YOUR SYSTEMS? I HAD TO FIND A WAY TO MANIPULATE THE SAME SYSTEM AS THE CHIEF. SO I'M GOING TO. I'LL FINISH WITH YOU, MAYOR. SO ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, THIS WAS A VERY GOOD CHOICE ON YOUR TO AMEND THIS ORDINANCE TO WHERE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN ORDER TO MAKE A CITY DECISION. SO I AGREE WITH CHANGING OF THIS ORDINANCE, AMENDING IT WHERE IT CAN BE THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR TO MAKE A DECISION TO END THE EMERGENCY SITUATION. I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT. I JUST HAD TO FIND A MECHANISM TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO I KNOW YOU CAME IN A LITTLE LATE, MR. CHIEF, BUT WE WE HAD THE CLERK READ SECTION 7.85 WORKSHOPS AND SPECIAL MEETINGS. PUBLIC COMMENTS AT WORKSHOPS SHALL BE ENTERTAINED AS FOLLOWS. PUBLIC COMMENT SHALL ADDRESS ONLY THOSE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY LISTED ON THE AGENDA. [01:45:02] THIS IS A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS? THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MISS SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS BASICALLY THE TRANSFER OF FOUR VEHICLES FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. VEHICLES STILL HAD SOME SOME LIFE LEFT IN THEM. AND SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO JUST SELL THEM ON SURPLUS BUT REALLOCATE THEM TO OTHER USES IN THE CITY. SO THIS IS THE THE VALUES OF THOSE VEHICLES BEING PURCHASED BY GENERAL FUND FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, STEP FORWARD. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET AND LOOKING AT THIS AGENDA ITEM, I NOTICED THAT IT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD REQUESTED MANY. WELL, 1415 I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY IT WAS ELECTRIC VEHICLES. THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST WAS ORIGINALLY FOR. WHEN I WAS READING THIS, THE PACKET THAT THEY WANTED 14 ELECTRIC VEHICLES. WELL, NOW THEY'RE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ELECTRIC VEHICLES. AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GO INTO WHAT A PROBLEM THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE. SO NOW THEY'RE REQUESTING TO HAVE THOSE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, VEHICLES CONVERTED TO WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE USING THE HYBRID WHICH IS ELECTRIC AND GAS COMBINATION. IF I'M UNDER IF I'M READING THIS PACKET CORRECTLY. RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN THOSE VEHICLES COME IN THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WILL GET THE SURPLUS FROM THESE CHANGES. WELL, IT JUST STANDS TO REASON THAT IF THEY WERE IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS CAN USE THEM. WHY ARE WE EVEN BUYING THEM? WHY ARE WE BUYING NEW VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY THE EXPENSE OF HIGH MAINTENANCE ELECTRIC VEHICLES OVER A REGULAR COMBUSTION ENGINE? SO ESPECIALLY IF THEY WERE IN GOOD ENOUGH SHAPE THAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS WANTED THEM. SO THAT'S WHY I'M QUESTIONING IT. WE COULD HAVE USED THAT SAME MONEY THAT WE DEDICATED FOR BUYING ELECTRIC VEHICLES THAT AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE AVAILABLE, AND THEY'RE A PAIN IN THE REAR, AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE CHARGING STATIONS OR NOW ASKING PEOPLE TO PUT IN CHARGING STATIONS. SO THAT MEANS SAME PROBLEM WITH THESE IN OUR MAINTENANCE FACILITIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE CHARGING STATIONS BECAUSE THEY TAKE 14 HOURS TO CHARGE ON REGULAR TRICKLE CHARGERS. DOES THAT MEAN YOU WORK ALL DAY AND THEN SOMEBODY'S GOT TO BE CHARGING CHANGING THE VEHICLES AROUND ALL NIGHT? I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT GOING THERE. BUT THE FACT IS STAY WITH COMBUSTION ENGINES. IT'S CHEAPER, LESS MAINTENANCE, AND IT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN FILL UP AND RUN WITHIN A MATTER OF MINUTES. BUT FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE GETTING THOSE COMBUSTION ENGINES, THEY'RE GETTING THEM AT A GOOD PRICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. YES. THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO BUY ELECTRIC VEHICLES DUE TO PRODUCTION ISSUES. COULDN'T GET THEM IN ANY KIND OF REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FRAME. WE SHIFTED TO HYBRID VEHICLES FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THOSE REPLACEMENTS WERE DUE TO THE FLEET, AND BUILDING IS CONSTANTLY ON THE GO, SO WE REPLACE THOSE VEHICLES FAIRLY REGULARLY. BECAUSE THE VEHICLES STILL HAD LIFE. THE RANGERS AND THE FRONTIER TRUCKS. WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER FLEET, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IN THE REST OF THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS, SOME THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER 20 YEARS OLD AND, YOU KNOW, EXCESSIVE MILES. SO WE'RE BASICALLY REPLACING VEHICLES THAT, YOU KNOW, HAD FAILED OR WERE FAILING. AND WE'RE DOING THAT USING USED VEHICLES. AND IT'S IT'S BETTER FOR GENERAL FUND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION OR ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS JUST ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE CITY'S MONTHLY FINANCIAL FINANCIAL REPORT FOR MARCH 2024. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT THE FINANCIAL REPORT. SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. BY COUNCILMAN FOSTER. DEPUTY MAYOR. NOTHING. COUNCILMAN FOSTER. NO. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MADAME SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE PRIOR ITEM. THIS IS THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE CITY'S BUDGET MONITORING REPORT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR. [01:50:06] SO THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2024. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. ITEM NUMBER SIX. MISS SMITH. YES, SIR. THIS INVOLVES A SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND COMMUNITY ASPHALT. THE CITY HAD DONE A SOLICITATION AND HAD AWARDED IT A COMMUNITY ASPHALT TO BUILD THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, TO CONNECT TO WHAT WOULD BE THEN THE NEW I-95 INTERCHANGE. THE CONTRACT WAS A COST PLUS FEE ARRANGEMENT, AND IT WAS A DESIGN BUILD. SO THEY DESIGNED IT. AND THEN THERE WAS A BUILDING PORTION OF IT AND WHICH HAD A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE. THE WERE A NUMBER OF CHANGE ORDERS, SOME OF WHICH WE AGREED TO. WE PROVIDED DIFFERENT TIMES FOR DELAYS, BUT THE PROJECT DID GO BEYOND THE TIME THAT WE CONTEMPLATED. SO WE CHALLENGED SOME OF THE COSTS AND WE DID ASSESS LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. WE WERE ABLE TO REACH A RESOLUTION WHICH DOES STILL INVOLVE SOME OF THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES BEING ASSESSED INITIALLY. THE COMMUNITY ASPHALT HAD SOUGHT A PAYMENT FOR. 474,000 $149,020. WE DISPUTED THAT AMOUNT DUE TO SOME OF THE CHANGES COSTS THAT WE OBJECTED TO, AS WELL AS 39 DAYS OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES THAT WE ASSESS COMMUNITY ASPHALT DURING THE TIME A REDUCED THEIR REQUEST DOWN TO $412,576.60. WE STILL, AS FAR AS THE MONIES THAT COUNCIL BUDGETED FOR THIS PROJECT BETWEEN THE POLES, WE HAVE $508,766.01 THAT'S AVAILABLE. THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED TO PAY THEM. THIS AGREEMENT INVOLVES US PAYING THEM $325,000 SO WE DON'T GET EVERYTHING WE WANT. THEY DON'T GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT, BUT WE DO HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER FROM WHAT WE BUDGETED FROM THIS PROJECT THAT ONCE WE GET THIS MATTER SETTLED, WE CAN THEN USE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. OTHERWISE WE WOULD MORE LIKELY THAN NOT SPEND THE ADDITIONAL SAVINGS PAYING OUR ATTORNEYS. SO IT ACTUALLY MAKES SENSE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THIS AND HAVE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL MONIES TO USE FOR OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, NEITHER PARTY ADMITS ANY WRONGDOING. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS, AND THE LAWSUIT WILL BE DISMISSED. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. FIRST ONE OVERALL. ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THE OUTCOME OF THIS? I KNOW IT WAS A GIVE AND TAKE. IT WAS A GIVE AND TAKE AGREEMENT. BUT OVERALL, IF YOU WERE SATISFIED WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'VE HAD CONFLICT WITH THIS SINCE THE DAY THEY PROPOSED THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE, I'VE HAD NOTHING BUT HEADACHES WITH IT AND YOU KNOW THAT. SO BUT THIS WAS WHAT CAME UP TO THIS POINT. THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT. BUT IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT AGREEMENT, THAT WAS QUESTION NUMBER ONE. AND QUESTION NUMBER TWO, ARE WE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH COMMUNITY ASPHALT CORPORATION WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? SO SO LESSONS WERE LEARNED. DON'T BURN ME TWICE THAT. THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO KNOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? MADAM. I GUESS IT'S TWO PRONGED, RIGHT? SO I'LL. I'LL HAVE YOU SHARE THAT, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. ACTUALLY, I WAS GOING TO ADD. DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE A RESPONSE TO SOMETHING SPECIFIC? YES, MA'AM. WELL, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS. OKAY. SO THE OVERALL WE OVERALL SATISFIED I. OH, YES. SORRY. WE WERE WE WERE NODDING OUR HEADS. THAT GOES TO OUR. YES, MA'AM. YES. I MEAN, INITIALLY IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET THERE. OF COURSE, THE OTHER THING WAS THEY WANTED TO BE PAID THEIR FULL BALANCE WITH NO LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. WELL, WE DID, YOU KNOW, GIVE UP SOME. BUT OUR THING WAS THIS WAS LATE. IT WAS NOT ALL DUE TO REASONS THAT WERE JUSTIFIED AND THAT THEY WOULD LOSE SOME MONEY FOR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. AND THAT DID OCCUR. [01:55:02] THANK YOU, MA'AM. NOW, THE NEXT PART OF THAT QUESTION. ARE WE STILL DOING BUSINESS WITH COMMUNITY ASPHALT? MADAM SHERMAN, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSES TO ANY SOLICITATIONS FROM THEM ON ANY PROJECTS, AND THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY DOING ANY BUSINESS WITH THE CITY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION. ONE MORE THING, SIR. IF I MAY. JUST FOR THE FOR THE RECORD, I'D LIKE TO PUT INTO THE RECORD FOR FINANCE PURPOSES. THE FUNDS FOR THE REMAINING PROJECT FUNDS ARE IN TWO DIFFERENT FUND ACCOUNTS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO READ THOSE BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T IN THE MEMO AS TO WHERE THE MONEYS WILL BE DRAWN FROM. SO REMAINING FUNDING IN PART WILL COME FROM FUND 306 ACCOUNT NUMBER 5416303 $180,645.51, AND THEN ALSO FROM FUND (308) 541-6303 $151,348.69. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I NEED I NEED A MOTION OR I HAVE A MOTION. NO, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. JOHNSON COUNCIL MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MADAM LEFLER. YES, MAYOR. STAFF IS REQUESTING COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO SCHEDULE TWO BUDGET WORKSHOPS. THE FIRST ON TUESDAY, JULY 9TH AT 6 P.M. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 MID-YEAR REVIEW AND FISCAL YEAR 25 DATA, AND THE SECOND ON TUESDAY, AUGUST 6TH AT 6 P.M. FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 DATA. AND THAT IS OPTIONAL IF NEEDED. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? JUST CONSENSUS. OKAY. YOU GOT A THUMBS UP HERE, AND COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. SAME HERE. AND DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER. ANY COMMENTS? COUNCILMAN FOSTER. NO. NO COMMENT. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE CONSENSUS. ALL RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE ON ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT. WELL, BEFORE WE GO THERE MA'AM I HEARD MR. [ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS:] MILLS, I BELIEVE HIS LAST NAME WAS MILES. MR. MILES THAT CORNER, AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN REALLY ADVOCATING FOR THAT TO COME ESPECIALLY LAST SCHOOL YEAR. AND WE MISSED THE MARK THERE. BUT NOW WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET SOMEONE TO BID ON THAT. ARE WE ANY CLOSER TO PIGGYBACKING ON ANY COUNTY COMPANIES OR THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON OR WELL, YES, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. YES, SIR. I KNOW STAFF IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON IT. UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE AN UPDATE PREPARED TONIGHT ON THAT TOPIC. YES. WHAT HAPPENED FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE IS WE PUT IT OUT FOR BID AND WE GOT NO RESPONDENTS. SO STAFF IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON THE POTENTIAL TO DIVIDE THE PROJECT AND MAYBE GET TWO DIFFERENT VENDORS, ONE THAT WILL DO THE ROAD WORK AND ONE THAT WILL DO THE SIGNAL WORK. YES. WE'RE LOOKING FOR STRATEGIES LIKE YOU DESCRIBED, BUT I WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON AN UPDATE. IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE REACHED OUT, AND MR. MILES ACTUALLY HAD MADE THIS SUGGESTION. WE APPRECIATE HIS INTEREST IN IT. HE HAD MADE THE SUGGESTION ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF YOU KNOW, CREATING IT TO BE AN ALL, YOU KNOW, ALL WAY STOP AS AN INTERIM APPLICATION. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE COUNTY ABOUT THAT, AND THEY'RE REVIEWING THAT PARTICULAR OPTION BECAUSE IT IS THEIR INTERSECTION. SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT AS WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING THE THE PROJECT. I'M NOT SURE IN ALL WE STOP WOULD WOULD SUFFICE. BUT I LIKE THIS IDEA. WE'RE ALSO EXPLORING THOSE TWO. HE SENT THAT INFORMATION TO US AS WELL. I THINK THAT AND THANK YOU, MR. MILES. I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT LET'S LOOK AT HOW WE CAN IMPROVISE, ADAPT AND OVERCOME, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY BEFORE THE SCHOOL SESSIONS AND WHICH IS IN A FEW MONTHS. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. SO THANK YOU. NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN THAT, MADAM SHERMAN, YOU HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS? YES, SIR, I HAVE TWO ITEMS. FIRST IS A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL CONSENSUS FOR A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING REGARDING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR THURSDAY, AUGUST THE 8TH AT 6 P.M.. I GUESS YOU NEED A CONSENSUS ON THAT. YES, SIR. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FOR MAKING AUGUST A VERY BUSY MONTH FOR US. YOU'RE WELCOME SIR, AND I APOLOGIZE. REALLY, REALLY DON'T KNOW IF YOU YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING AT THIS POINT. BUT YES. YOU GOT A THUMBS UP WITH COUNCILMAN. [02:00:01] JOHNSON PRETTY FREE IN AUGUST. I PROMISE IT'LL BE WORTH IT. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES. IT'LL BE WORTH IT. OKAY. AND, DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU CONSENSUS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE THE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. SO WE'VE GOT AUGUST 6TH AND THEN AUGUST 8TH. YES, SIR. AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES, BEN. THANK YOU. AND. THANK YOU. WELCOME. AND MY SECOND ITEM, IF I MAY. IS A REQUEST. WE HAVE THE EDC ABOUT COUNCIL OR COMMISSION. COUNCIL. AND PREVIOUSLY NANCY BUNDT WAS ON ON THAT. SO I WAS GOING TO REQUEST IF WE COULD APPOINT DANIELLE KROTZ TO THAT. SHE'S OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIVISION MANAGER. SHE WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE CHANGE FOR THAT POSITION WITH YOUR PERMISSION. OKAY. THANK YOU. NEED A MOTION? JUST CONSENSUS. OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. SO, DANIELLE, WHAT DO. MA'AM? DANIELLE KROTZ. IS THAT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE THAT NAME? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU, DANIELLE, FOR TAKING THIS ON. THANK YOU. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. YES, MAYOR, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I NEED TO SEEK YOUR ADVICE CONCERNING THE FOLLOWING LITIGATION MATTER. PURSUANT TO SECTION 280 6.0 11, SUBSECTION EIGHT, FLORIDA STATUTES DONOVAN DAVIS VERSUS CITY OF PALM BAY, CASE NUMBER ZERO FIVE 2024 CA028081 I'VE COORDINATED A TIME WHEN COUNSEL WAS AVAILABLE. THURSDAY, JUNE 27TH, 2024 AT 5:30 P.M.. THIS MEETING SHOULD NOT TAKE MORE THAN 30 MINUTES. ATTENDANCE. ATTENDEES WILL BE THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER SUZANNE SHERMAN AND CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH. THANK YOU MA'AM. I GUESS WE'LL BE HERE TOMORROW AT 530. OR AS YOU WOULD THURSDAY, MIGHT AS WELL THROW SOMETHING ELSE. WOULD YOU LIKE? WE'LL BE HERE THURSDAY. ANOTHER MEETING IN JUNE. OH, MASTER CHIEF IS GOING TO HAVE A BALL WITH THAT ONE. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NOTHING ELSE, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.