[00:00:03] ALL RIGHT, NOW, DON'T WORRY. I WON'T SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM. ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, 2024 DASH 15 TO ORDER. [CALL TO ORDER:] OUR INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR DAVID CANNON OF GRACE BIBLE CHURCH. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN KENNY JOHNSON. WILL YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? MIGHTY WORKS. LET US PRAY. THANK YOU FATHER. OH GREAT GOD, WE LOVE YOU AND WE THANK YOU, LORD, FOR THIS GREAT PRIVILEGE. FATHER, WE JUST CELEBRATED 248 YEARS OF OF FREEDOM. AND, LORD, WE KNOW THAT WHEN THOSE FELLAS FOUGHT AND AND WORKED TO BRING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, THEY THEY RALLIED UNDER THE FACT THAT THEY HAD NO KING BUT JESUS. THANK YOU. FATHER, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE CALLED THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE THEY ACKNOWLEDGED YOU AND EVERYTHING. AND LORD, EVEN IN OUR DOCUMENTS, WE WE SEE THAT ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL HERE, THAT WE ARE ENDOWED BY OUR CREATOR WITH THOSE. WONDERFUL RIGHTS OF LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. THANK YOU. FATHER. FATHER. THOSE DON'T COME FROM OUR GOVERNMENT. THEY COME FROM YOU. BUT LORD, AS YOU HAVE ORDAINED INSTITUTIONS LIKE. LIKE MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN. LIKE LIKE THE CHURCH. YOU HAVE ALSO ORDAINED GOVERNMENT TO. TO PROTECT THE RIGHTEOUS AND TO PUNISH THE EVILDOERS AND SECURE THOSE RIGHTS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN US. SO, LORD, WE WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY. AND LORD, HELP US TO ATTAIN TO THE IDEALS IN WHICH IT WAS FOUNDED UPON. LORD, WE WE THANK YOU FOR THE FREEDOM AND THE OPENNESS THAT WE CAN GATHER HERE TODAY. I THANK YOU FOR THESE SERVANTS HERE, LORD, WHO WORK IN IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ARE GATHERED HERE TONIGHT. I THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO WHO SIT THERE AS OUR, OUR OUR REPRESENTATIVES AND SEEK TO MAKE THIS THE FINEST CITY IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY. LORD, I JUST PRAY THAT WE WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY. YES, LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD IMPRESS UPON OUR HEARTS, LORD, WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS HONORABLE. AND I PRAY THAT THERE WOULD BE A SPIRIT THAT OVER REIGNS THIS MEETING OF RESPECT AND INTEGRITY. I PRAY THAT, LORD, THAT THAT EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AND DONE WOULD NOT ONLY HONOR YOU, BUT IT WOULD WORK TOWARD THE BETTERMENT OF THIS GREAT CITY. SO, LORD, WE WE PRAY THAT ANYONE WHO WOULD DISRUPT THAT OR FIGHT AGAINST THAT LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD WOULD STIFLE THAT SPIRIT. AND LORD, BLESS ALL WHO SPEAK. MAY THEY SPEAK TRUTHFULLY FROM THE HEART. I PRAY THAT EVERYTHING WOULD WORK TOGETHER, LORD. AND AGAIN, BLESS GOD, BLESS AMERICA AND GOD BLESS THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND WE PRAY THIS IN YOUR SON'S NAME, THE LORD JESUS. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU. FATHER. PLEASE TURN AND FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! MISS LEFFLER. ROLL CALL. MAYOR. MEDINA. PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE. YEAH. MISS SHERMAN HERE. MISS SMITH HERE. DEPUTY MAYOR. [ANNOUNCEMENTS:] ANNOUNCEMENTS. ONE TERM, ONE TERM EXPIRING ON. YOU KNOW. ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT. PENSION PLAN. BOARD OF TRUSTEES, STAND FAST. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH YOU TO REMOTE TO. ONE TERM EXPIRING ON THE POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN. BOARD OF TRUSTEE FOR VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD. REPRESENTS STUDENTS MEMBER POSITION ONE VACANCY ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD. REPRESENT ADULT MEMBER POSITION TWO VACANCIES ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENT BANKING INDUSTRY AND NONPROFIT. POSITION. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS MAY APPLY AT PALM BAY. [00:05:05] FLORIDA. ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK OFFICE AT 321952 3414 IS COMPLETED. ANNOUNCEMENT, SIR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. MADAM SHERMAN AGENDA REVISIONS. [AGENDA REVISIONS:] YES, SIR. WE HAVE ONE ONE REVISIONS, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE REVISION. A PROCLAMATION FOR THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT RECIPIENT. GOLF ORTHODONTICS HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM ONE UNDER PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. MADAM SMITH, ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING RIGHT TO PROCLAMATIONS. [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:] JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS MIKE'S OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO ASK DOCTORS. RAMYA, RAMYA AND DOCTOR GOLF. COME ON UP. YOU CAN BRING YOUR WHOLE TEAM. YEAH, THAT'S THE WHOLE TEAM. YEAH. COME ON. THIS SIDE. HOW YOU DOING? I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU. YES, I'M GLAD TO MEET YOU. NOW, COME ON UP. YEAH. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE HERE. YES. BRING HER TOO. SHE'S THE CENTER OF ATTRACTION. WHAT'S HER NAME? HER NAME IS LILIANA. LILIANA'S. HERE, FOLKS, GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE TO LILIANA. THERE YOU GO. SHE IS SO PRECIOUS. THIS IS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM. IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS GULF ORTHODONTICS IS RECOGNIZED AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM RECIPIENT FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2024. WHEREAS GOLF ORTHODONTICS, LOCATED AT 580 MALABAR ROAD, SUITE A, HAS BEEN A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED ESTABLISHED BUSINESS IN PALM BAY SINCE 2011. YEAH. COME ON. AND WHEREAS GOLF ORTHODONTICS IS A HUSBAND AND WIFE DUAL TEAM OFFERING OUTSTANDING. COMPREHENSIVE, COMPREHENSIVE ORTHODONTIC TREATMENT AND CARE FOR ALL BREVARD COUNTY RESIDENTS. OPPORTUNITY TO SMILE. AND WHEREAS GULF ORTHODONTICS HAS SHOWN BUSINESS GROWTH SINCE OPENING ITS FIRST OFFICE HERE IN PALM BAY, THEY HAVE SINCE EXPANDED TO THREE ADDITIONAL LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT BREVARD COUNTY MELBOURNE, TITUSVILLE, AND MERRITT ISLAND. AND YES, I HAVE TOLD THEM THEY COULD EXPAND WITHIN THE BORDERS OF PALM BAY. THIS SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IS A TRUE TESTAMENT TO THEIR PASSION AND INVESTMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF BREVARD COUNTY. AND WHEREAS GOLF ORTHODONTICS IS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY BY SUPPORTING SUPPORTING LOCAL CHARITIES AND PROVIDING SPONSORSHIPS TO ATHLETIC AND PERFORMING ARTS PROGRAM AND PROVIDING MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO ALMOST 30 PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS THROUGH THE CREATION OF THEIR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, BRILLIANT SMILE KIDZ CLOSET. THEY ALSO PROVIDED ESSENTIAL CLOTHING AND SHOES TO CHILDREN IN NEED. AND WHEREAS, AND I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT THAT WAS SPECIAL. WHO WAS IT THAT LEADS THAT? WHO FROM YOUR TEAM? IS SHE HERE? COURTNEY IS NOT HERE. SHE. SHE REALLY SOLD THAT TO ME. JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS GOLF ORTHODONTICS MAINTAINS A HIGH, HIGH RATINGS ACROSS VARIOUS PLATFORMS SUCH AS GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK AND HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED IN SUBSCRIPTIONS SUCH AS SPACE COAST DAILY. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND BUSINESS AS THE BUSINESS PARTNER OF THE YEAR. THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE ESTEEMED ORGANIZATION SUCH AS AMERICAN FLORIDA AND SOUTHERN ASSOCIATIONS OF ORTHODONTISTS, AS WELL AS THE AMERICAN DENTAL ASSOCIATION. WHEREAS GULF ORTHODONTICS IS INNOVATIVE THROUGH THEIR EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM VIOLET THE TOOTH FAIRY AND INTERACTIVE PROGRAM FOR CHILDREN PRE-K THROUGH SECOND GRADE BY FOCUSING ON DENTAL HYGIENE AND BECOMING JUNIOR DENTISTS THROUGH SONG AND DANCE. OH, I GOTTA KNOW ABOUT THAT. ARE YOU GOING TO SHOW? SHOW ME SOME MOVES THERE. THIS PROGRAM IS PROVIDED TO ALL BREVARD SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATIONS AT NO COST. NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. [00:10:01] BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE GULF ORTHODONTICS IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECIPIENT THIRD QUARTER OF THE YEAR 2024 AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM, AND I HEREBY SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THIS GREAT CITY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 11TH DAY OF JULY, 2024. STEP RIGHT UP, BOTH DOCTORS. COME ON IN. COME ON IN. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. SIR. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR THAT LATER. LET ME TALK. WE'LL HAVE TIME FOR THAT. ALRIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND THE SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR ACKNOWLEDGING GOLF ORTHODONTICS WITH THE BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT AWARD. AND MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING HOW VITAL BUSINESSES ARE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. I'M HONORED AND HUMBLED TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY. BUT THIS RECOGNITION WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE WORKS AND SACRIFICES OF MANY. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS RECOGNITION IS A TESTAMENT TO ALL WHO HAVE BEEN A PART OF BOTH BRILLIANT SMILES ORTHODONTICS AND GOLF ORTHODONTICS. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE GOLF ORTHODONTICS TEAM FOR THEIR DEDICATION, THEIR EFFORTS, AND HARD WORK WITHOUT YOU. WITHOUT YOUR WORK, WITHOUT YOUR PASSION, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO EXTEND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO MY BEAUTIFUL, LOVING WIFE, DOCTOR LAUREN LOCKHART. WHO IS NOT ONLY AN EXCEPTIONAL ORTHODONTIST, SHE IS AN INCREDIBLE WIFE AND LIFE PARTNER. SHE HAS MADE OUR DREAMS A REALITY, SO THANK YOU. THANKS. I GIVE YOU A KISS, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT. THANK YOU. TO THE FAMILIES OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU FOR WELCOMING US WITH OPEN ARMS AND ALLOWING US TO PURSUE OUR PASSION AND OUR DREAM OF ORTHODONTICS AND BUSINESS OWNERSHIP IN YOUR CITY. I STARTED OUT IN VERO BEACH, AND WHEN IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO OPEN MY PRACTICE. WENDY MICULEK, SHE WAS MY MY. ACTUALLY, SHE WAS MY MANAGER AT THE BUSINESS I WORKED AT, AND SHE TOLD ME IT WAS TIME FOR ME TO MOVE ON AND START MY OWN BUSINESS. SO I DID THAT. BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT A MAP, I WAS LOOKING AT WHERE I WANT TO BE. AND I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR, THIS IS THE GREATEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES, SO I'M PROUD TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US. GOLF GOLF ORTHODONTICS IS FORMERLY KNOWN AS BRILLIANT SMILES ORTHODONTICS, AND WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS WITH TWO PRIMARY OBJECTIVES. ONE WAS FOR PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL PATIENT EXPERIENCES AND MAKING ORTHODONTIC TREATMENT AFFORDABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, WE HAVE EXPANDED TO MELBOURNE TO MERRITT ISLAND AND TITUSVILLE WHILE STAYING TRUE TO OUR INITIAL GOALS. RECOGNIZING A NEED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, PARENTS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THE CHALLENGES FACED BY SOME OF THE UNDERSERVED STUDENTS AND FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT DID LEAD US TO START OUR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, THE BRILLIANT SMILES KIDS CLOSET. THROUGH THIS INITIATIVE, WE DO PROVIDE CLOTHING TO STUDENTS WHO ARE IN NEED. WE PROVIDE MEALS TO FAMILIES DURING THE HOLIDAYS. AND WE EDUCATE CHILDREN ON PROPER ORAL HYGIENE THROUGH OUR VIOLET THE TOOTH FAIRY PROGRAM. IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE ARE PREPARING TO RELOCATE. WE WILL STAY HERE IN PALM BAY BECAUSE THIS IS HOME. BUT WE CORDIALLY INVITE THE MAYOR AND ALL REPRESENTATIVES AND THE ENTIRE TOWN, THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, TO COME TO OUR GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY. I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT NONE OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS WOULD BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE STEADFAST SUPPORT OF OUR PATIENTS AND THE COMMUNITY. SO, ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY AND OUR SMALL BUSINESS, I DO SINCERELY THANK THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MENTION, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN THERE EARLY IN THE MORNING, AND I'VE SEEN PATIENTS WALK IN AT THE SAME TIME. USUALLY WHEN YOU GO TO A DENTIST, YOU DON'T HAVE A SMILE ON YOUR FACE. WELL, HIS PATIENTS WERE HAPPY TO BE THERE. HE'S GOT A GREAT REPUTATION. I'M REALLY HONORED THAT YOU ARE THE RECIPIENT, DOC. KEEP UP, KEEP IT UP. AND LET'S OPEN UP ADDITIONAL PRACTICES HERE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. BURAK. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. LET'S PUT THIS HERE. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE. [00:15:04] YEAH. COME ON AROUND. YEAH. YEAH. COME ON, COME ON, COME ON, GET CLOSE. PRETEND LIKE YOU LOVE ONE ANOTHER. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SURPRISED? YEAH. GOOD TO SEE YOU, DONNA. GOOD TO SEE YOU. YOU. YOU PUT MY SON'S BRIGHTEST A FEW YEARS AGO NOW. YEAH, YEAH. I DIDN'T PICK UP THE TAB. THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T MEET. SO HE. YEAH, HE HANDLED HIMSELF, SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU. WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT, MAN. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL. ALL RIGHT. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT. HE PUT MY SON'S BRACE ON A FEW YEARS. I DIDN'T PICK UP THE TAB. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T NEED HIM. I KNOW, CALL YOU THAT. THEN THEY'RE. THEY'RE REALLY LOVING IN THAT PLACE OF BUSINESS. THEY'RE REALLY LOVING. IT'S AMAZING. THEY BRING THE WHOLE TEAM SAYS THAT SAYS A LOT. OKAY, WE'RE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO MADAM SHERMAN. [PRESENTATIONS:] SECOND. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YES. SO WE'VE GOT TWO PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT. THE FIRST, I'LL BRING UP OUR POLICE CHIEF, MARIO AJELLO. WE'RE PROVIDING WHAT WE DO ANNUALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. WE GIVE AN UPDATE ON OUR STRATEGIC GROWTH FOR BOTH THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS. AND SO CHIEF AJELLO WILL COME UP AND PROVIDE THE FIRST PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL, MADAM SHERMAN. SO, OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING FOR THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT. JUST BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE PRESENTATION, JUST COVER A FEW HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WITH YOU THIS EVENING. IT'S GOING TO ENCOMPASS A FEW THINGS. IT'S GOING TO ENCOMPASS SOME OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD AS A RESULT OF OUR COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 WITH REGARDS TO POSITIONS, EQUIPMENT, VEHICLES TO KEEP US AFLOAT, MOVING INTO YOU KNOW, THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. AND ALSO WHAT WE'LL ALSO BE SHOWING IS SOME OF THE NEEDS THAT WAS SLIGHTLY DISCUSSED WITH THE REQUEST FROM OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP ON THIS PAST TUESDAY, AND SOME OF THE NEEDS AND REQUESTS MOVING FORWARD. WE'LL ALSO BE ILLUSTRATING A COUPLE OF MAPS AND GRAPHS OF SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT WERE THAT OUR TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE REST OF OUR TEAM HERE, WITH THE CITY WITH THE THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY AND THE POPULATION THAT HAS GROWN. WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE CAN BETTER PROVIDE OUR PUBLIC SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID. OKAY, THERE WE GO. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW I JUST WANTED TO START OFF WITH OUR BECAUSE I KNOW, MR. MAYOR, YOU HAD MENTIONED IT ON TUESDAY. AND WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT IT AND DISCUSSED IT AS A, AS A COUNCIL AND AS A, AS A TEAM HERE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS TO A YEAR WITH REGARDS TO OUR RESPONSE TIMES. FOR, FOR POLICE. SO WHAT I'M GOING TO BE SHOWING AFTER THIS SLIDE HERE IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE WITH OUR STAFFING. WHICH WE ARE IN A CYCLE RIGHT NOW THAT A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES AND A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS GO THROUGH EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS WITH REGARD TO OUR VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE. RIGHT. AND, AND ALSO ILLUSTRATES WHY WE HAVE THOSE VACANCIES. AND, AND WE HAVEN'T BROKEN UP BUT THROUGH ATTRITION AS WELL WITH RETIREMENTS. SO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW OUR FOR HIGH PRIORITY CALLS, THOSE ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT ARE MEN AND WOMEN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPOND TO LIGHTS AND SIRENS FOR LIFE AND DEATH TYPE SITUATIONS. WE'RE LOOKING AT A SEVEN MINUTE AND 20S. WE HAVE SHAVED OFF 38 SECONDS FROM THIS TIME LAST YEAR WITH WITH REGARDS TO OUR RESPONSE TIMES. NOW, WHAT I EQUATE THAT TO IS THE LEADERSHIP FROM OUR MEN AND WOMEN, STARTING WITH OUR COMM CENTER, WHICH IS WHICH IS OUR DISPATCHERS WITH THE LEADERSHIP WE HAVE UP THERE ON HOW WE'RE DISHING OUT OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE TO OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OUT THERE IN PATROL, AND ALSO OUR SUPERVISION AND LEADERSHIP ON OUR PATROL LEVEL WITH REGARDS TO HOW WE'RE PROPERLY MANAGING OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE AND MANAGING OUR WORKLOAD AND OUR TIME WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OUT THERE PATROLLING THE SHIP. SO WITH THE VACANCIES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE SEEING WITH THAT, OUR MEN AND WOMEN HAVE STILL BEEN ABLE TO WORK HARD BOTH IN OUR COMMUNICATION CENTER AND OUR PATROL TO SHAVE OFF 38 SECONDS WITH OUR RESPONSE. AND WE'RE NOT DONE YET. SO. SO AS I MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO, OUR FY 24 PERSONNEL ACHIEVEMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED AS A RESULT OF OF THE COUNCIL HERE WAS SIX PATROL OFFICERS, ONE TRAINING OFFICER, A TRAFFIC OFFICER, AND AN UPGRADE TO OUR CRIME SCENE AND PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE SUPERVISOR. IF YOU REMEMBER, IF YOU RECALL THIS TIME LAST YEAR, WE TRANSITIONED AND COMBINED OUR PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE AND OUR CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATIONS TEAM UNDER OUR [00:20:09] INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION PROFESSIONAL STAFF. WE RECLASSIFIED OUR PART TIME ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY TO A FULL TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT AND A REORGANIZATION THAT WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS A NEED THAT WE WERE LACKING WITH REGARDS TO SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH REGARDS TO FINANCIAL CRIMES. SO WE REINSTITUTED OUR GENERAL CRIMES UNIT THAT HELPS OUR COMMUNITY, HELPS OUR SENIORS WITH REGARDS TO FRAUDULENT TYPE CRIMES AND IDENTITY THEFT AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND ALSO OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN UP AND RUNNING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. RECENTLY WE WERE ABLE TO WE HAD SERGEANT RON LUGO OR OFFICER RON LUGO WAS OUR WELLNESS COORDINATOR. HE HAD SINCE LEFT THE AGENCY. AND WE NOW HAVE A ACTUAL CERTIFIED THERAPIST AND CLINICIAN WHO'S OUR WELLNESS COORDINATOR FOR THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING PART OF OUR REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, WHICH WILL COME UP HERE SHORTLY. IF YOU LOOK IN THE BLUE SECTION, WHICH IS WHICH IS OUR MAIN HUB OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT'S OUR PATROL DIVISION. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR DIVISIONS FOR BOTH DAY SHIFT, NIGHT SHIFT, YOU KNOW, OPPOSITE SHIFTS. YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING IS NORTHEAST, NORTHWEST AND SOUTH. SO SOUTH ENCOMPASSES ALL OF SOUTHWEST AND ALL OF SOUTHEAST ALL THROUGH SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY AND A NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE SOUTH END THAT'S THAT'S BEEN EXPANDED AND GROWING. OUR PROPOSAL AND WHAT THE THE, OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM WORKING WITH IT HAS ALREADY CREATED IS CREATED A FOURTH DISTRICT. WE'RE GOING TO BE CALLING WHAT WHAT? INSTEAD OF RECOGNIZING THESE LOCATIONS WITH A NORTHEAST NORTHWEST, SOUTHEAST SOUTHWEST DESIGNATION, WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZED THEM AS DISTRICT ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR. WHAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING ALREADY IN OUR CAD SYSTEM THAT WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED IS THE DISTRICT FOUR CONCEPT. IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COMPOUND, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH IN THE SOUTH END WITH THE PARKWAY, IT'S STAFFING THAT AREA PERMANENTLY WITH ITS OWN ZONE AND SQUAD OF OFFICERS AND SUPERVISION. SO OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE IS TO IMPLEMENT THAT SQUAD LEVEL HERE IN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. BUT WE WILL BE NOTIFIED RECOGNIZING THAT AS A DISTRICT FOUR, THAT DISTRICT FOUR WILL ENCOMPASS THE SOUTH END, SOUTHEAST END OF OUR CITY, WHICH ENCOMPASSES THE COMPOUND ALL THE WAY TO SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY. OH, JUST LOST THE MIC THERE. SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WHAT I'M REFERRING TO FROM OUR DISTRICT. SO PD ONE WHICH WILL BE DISTRICT ONE THAT ENCOMPASSES THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE CITY, ANYTHING EAST OF I-95 ALL THE WAY TO US, ONE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED DISTRICT ONE. DISTRICT TWO WILL BE THE NORTHWEST PART OF OUR CITY, AND DISTRICT THREE WILL BE OUR SOUTHWEST, SLIGHTLY SOME SOUTHEAST AREA WITH WYOMING AND WHERE BAYSIDE LAKES IS IN THE COMPOUND. BEING IN SOUTH ALL THE WAY TO SAINT JOHN HERITAGE PARKWAY, WHICH IS THERE IN PINK. I BELIEVE THAT'S PINK. YES. FOR OUR DISTRICT FOUR, WHICH WILL THAT WILL ENCOMPASS OUR NEW FOURTH SQUAD FOR EVERY DIVISION ON PATROL. SO EVERY DIVISION WILL HAVE FOUR SQUAD AS OPPOSED TO RIGHT NOW WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE, WHICH IS STRETCHING OUR RESOURCES. THIS WILL ALSO HELP US MINIMIZE OUR RESPONSE TIMES AS WELL, EVEN EVEN SHORTER THAN WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE. SO STAFFING SHORTAGES AND AND OUR STAFFING SITUATION CURRENTLY. SO RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK, WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVE 38 TOTAL VACANCIES WITH REGARDS TO OUR PATROL OUR SWORN OFFICERS STAFFING. NOW WITH THAT THAT'S NO NAMES. THAT'S NOTHING WE HAVE THAT'S ENCOMPASSES ALL OF IT. IT'S 38 TOTAL VACANCIES THAT NOBODY'S WORKING ON THE ROAD OR IN ANY OTHER CAPACITY WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. HOWEVER, WITH THOSE, WE HAVE 19 OF THOSE VACANCIES. WE DO HAVE NAMES TO. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE ACADEMY. THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING RIGHT NOW UNDER A FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM. AND AS RECENTLY AS THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE ISSUED OUT SEVEN CONDITIONAL OFFERS OF EMPLOYMENT FOR TWO STAFF, THOSE VACANCY POSITIONS ARE CURRENTLY VACANCIES WITH NO NAMES OR 19. THE OTHERS ARE VACANCIES, BUT WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS ASSIGNED TO THOSE POSITIONS THAT IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT, THEY MAKE IT THROUGH THE ACADEMY, THEY MAKE IT THROUGH OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM. THEY SHOULD BE ON THE ROAD HERE WITHIN THE NEXT EIGHT TO 10 TO 12 MONTHS. OUR COMMUNICATIONS, AS YOU RECALL, OVER A YEAR OR SO AGO, WE HAD A REAL SITUATION THERE, A REAL PROBLEM WITH MAINTAINING OUR COMMUNICATIONS. YES, SIR. CAN I STOP YOU THERE, CHIEF? THOSE 19 VACANCIES, RIGHT, THAT YOU GOT NAMES ON? THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE ACADEMY. YOU FEEL THEY'RE IN THE CAMP? THEY'RE IN THE ACADEMY. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN OUR ORIENTATION PROGRAM. THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN THE FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM, OUT IN FIELD TRAINING WITH THE FIELD TRAINING OFFICER. AND THE LAST SEVEN THAT WE JUST GOT OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ARE BRAND NEW OFFICER OF EMPLOYMENT THAT WE OFFERED SEVEN INDIVIDUALS. OKAY. OUT OF THOSE 19. YES. OKAY. THOSE 19. RIGHT. YOU'RE SAYING THEY COULD BE OPERATIONAL WITHIN 8 TO 10 MONTHS. [00:25:02] WHEN YOU SAY 8 TO 12 MONTHS, CORRECT? OKAY. SO DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW IN OUR FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM OKAY. SOME COULD BE IN PHASE ONE, SOME COULD BE IN PHASE 3 OR 4. BUT NOT THE SEVEN CONDITIONS YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER A YEAR. BECAUSE WE HIRED THEM. THEY GOT TO GO THROUGH THE ACADEMY, THEY COME OUT, THEY GO TO THE FIELD TRAINING PROGRAM. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 TO 12 MONTHS FOR THOSE. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M CONCENTRATING ON. RIGHT. GETTING THEM TURNKEY, GETTING THEM OUT THERE, HELPING YOU WITH THAT. THAT GROUP FOR. YES. SO RIGHT NOW LET'S SAY TODAY THEY'RE WITH FTO'S AND THEY IT'S TEN YEARS DOWN RANGE. DO WE HAVE A VEHICLES FOR THEM. DO WE HAVE THEIR EQUIPMENT FOR THEM. YOU SAID TEN YEARS DOWN RANGE OR 1010 MONTHS DOWN RAINS? WELL, SO ANYTIME WE HAVE AN EMPLOYEE, WE FILL A POSITION. ALL OF OUR POSITIONS. FOR EXAMPLE, TO HIRE SOMEONE IS $193,000 FULLY EQUIPPED FOR THE FIRST YEAR WHEN WE FILL THAT POSITION WITH A BRAND NEW EMPLOYEE FOR POLICE, THAT'S THE FIRST YEAR THAT ENCOMPASSES THE VEHICLE, THAT ENCOMPASSES COMPUTER, THAT ENCOMPASSES THE BODY WORN CAMERA, EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO THEIR JOB. SO. YES. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN HERE WHEN WE GET TO THE VEHICLE SLIDE, IS OF THESE NEW HIRES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO REQUEST, THOSE VEHICLES WERE GOING TO BE UTILIZED IN IMPACT FEES. THAT WAY IT DOESN'T TAKE A HIT. DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE CITY. SO YOU GOT THAT DOWN CORRECT IN THE PIPELINE. CARRY ON SIR. SO RECRUITMENT EFFORTS FOR EXPERIENCED PERSONNEL AS YOU, AS YOU'RE FULLY AWARE AS RECENTLY AS OVER A MONTH AGO. COUNCIL, YOU GUYS DID APPROVE AND SIGN OFF ON OUR NEW CONTRACT THAT WILL BE EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST OF 2024, WHICH IS WAS WAS IS CRUCIAL TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE FOR THE FUTURE. BUT WITH THAT, WE'VE ALSO OFFERED SIGNING BONUSES FOR EXPERIENCED CERTIFIED OFFICERS, WHETHER IN STATE OR OUT OF STATE AND ALSO RELOCATION BONUS MONEY TO HELP RELOCATE THEIR FAMILIES HERE TO TO THE GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY. SO THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF AVERAGE OF EXPERIENCE AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCES WITH A LITTLE BIT OVER THREE YEARS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN AVERAGING. NINE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN IN LOCAL, WITHIN COUNTY, WITHIN BREVARD COUNTY. SO THEY'RE FLORIDA CERTIFIED. AND ALSO TOTAL COST WITH INCENTIVES OF WHAT WE HAVE GIVEN OUT TO EXPERIENCED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IS SLIGHTLY OVER $100,000. OKAY. ATTRITION RATE. SO OVER THE LAST I'D SAY MIDDLE OF 2023 TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS KIND OF AN ANOMALY THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED IN A VERY LONG TIME HERE, A LONG TIME FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FOR THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS, IF YOU RECALL, I JUST MENTIONED WE HAVE 38 TOTAL VACANCIES, 19 WITH NAMES TO THEM. RIGHT. BUT OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO, A LITTLE BIT LONGER, WE'VE ALSO EXPERIENCED 18 TOTAL RETIREMENTS. 14 TRADITIONAL RETIREMENTS, FOUR OF WHICH WERE MEDICALLY SEPARATED FROM THE CITY. WITH THAT, WE HAVE 18 RESIGNATIONS. THOSE RESIGNATIONS RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, NEW OFFICERS, NEW FIELD TRAINING OR PROBATIONARY OFFICERS NOT MAKING IT WITHIN OUR SYSTEM, WITHIN OUR PROGRAM. THEREFORE, THEY RESIGNED OTHERS THAT WE DID HAVE RELOCATED TO, YOU KNOW, OTHER JOBS OUTSIDE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OR WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHERE AT THE TIME THE PAY WAS HIGHER. SO THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS, THE ONE THAT REALLY JUMPS OUT TO ME, WHICH WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE FOR SEVERAL YEARS DOWN RANGE, IS THE 14 RETIREES AND THE FOUR MEDICAL RETIREMENTS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GIVE OR TAKE. BUT THE 14 RETIREMENTS, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN A VERY LONG TIME. SO THAT TOOK AN IMPACT TO OUR STAFFING. ALSO IMPACTING OUR STAFFING AND ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES THAT WE HAD OR IS PART OF THE JOB WITH REGARDS TO ON DUTY INJURIES. WE'VE HAD 33 OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS. FMLA FIELD MEDICAL LEAVE 11 ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE AND THEN RANGING CAN BE FROM ONE WEEK TO TEN MONTHS. AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SEEN IT AS FAR AS LONG AS 12 MONTHS. SO ON TOP OF THE VACANCIES, ON TOP OF THE RETIREMENTS WE ALSO HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON THE JOB INJURIES AND LEAVE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO OUR REQUEST FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE SLIGHTLY TWEAKED SINCE WE'RE WORKING ON IT WITH CITY MANAGEMENT AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT WITH REGARDS TO DIRECTION FROM FROM COUNCIL FROM TUESDAY'S BUDGET WORKSHOP. SO ORIGINALLY FOR OUR UNIFORMED SERVICES FOR PATROL IS LOOKING TO CREATE FOUR ADDITIONAL POLICE SERGEANT POSITIONS. THAT IS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT AND FORM OUR FOURTH SQUAD FOR EVERY DIVISION WITHIN PATROL TO COVER THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY. SO WITH THAT, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO ASK FOR SIX ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS FOR PATROL, AND YOUTH SERVICES OFFICER. THE YOUTH SERVICES OFFICER POSITION WILL BE ASSIGNED TO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION. THIS SPECIFIC FUNCTION WILL BE FOR OUR SCHOOL RESOURCES FOR OUR SCHOOLS. EVERY TIME THERE'S AN INCIDENT IN OUR SCHOOLS, WHETHER THERE'S A FIGHT, WHETHER THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, DRUGS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THERE'S A DISRUPTION WITH A STUDENT. [00:30:01] CURRENTLY, WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS OUR COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICERS AND OUR PATROL OFFICERS HAVE TO GO AND WEEKLY GO WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS, SO IT TAKES THOSE ELEMENTS. RIGHT NOW, OUR COMMUNITY POLICING, OUR PATROLS, OUR DETECTIVES AWAY FROM OTHER ACTIVITY AND CALLS FOR SERVICE AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON WHERE THIS POSITION, THEIR SOLE RESPONSIBILITY WILL BE THE SCHOOLS. THEY WILL ALSO BE A BACKUP FOR OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS. WE'RE CURRENTLY HAVE FOUR WITHIN THE CITY. SO IF A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER, FOR WHATEVER REASON CALLS OUT SICK OR IS OUT FOR WHATEVER REASON OR INJURED, THAT INDIVIDUAL ALSO TAKE THE PLACE OF THAT SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER THAT FOR AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TAKING IT FROM PATROL, WE'RE NOT TAKING FROM INVESTIGATIONS TO SUPPLEMENT THAT VOID. AS WELL AS OUR GENERAL CRIMES DETECTIVES POSITIONS, WHICH IS IN OUR INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION. THIS IS TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE NEWLY FORMED THAT WE BROUGHT BACK OUR GENERAL CRIMES UNIT TO HELP WITH OUR FINANCIAL CRIMES, BUT ALSO WITH ALSO HELP, AS YOU MENTIONED YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MENTIONED ON TUESDAY, IN LIGHT OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TO HELP THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL INVESTIGATORS TO HELP WITH OUR ON CALL ROTATION AND OUR CALL OUT ROTATION TO MINIMIZE AND ELIMINATE BURNOUT WITHIN OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF. WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT SPECIALIST TO HELP WITH OUR OUR GRANT AND ACCREDITATION SPECIALIST AND OUR BUDGET OFFICER, AND ALSO A VICTIM'S ADVOCATE. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE TWO VICTIMS ADVOCATE WITHIN WITHIN THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT. WE'VE HAD TWO FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE USED TO HAVE THREE. THEY GO UNNOTICED TO ANYBODY THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO INTERNALLY. THEY HELP NOT ONLY HELP OUR VICTIMS OF CRIME, THEY HELP OUR SENIORS. THEY HELP OUR OUR SENIORS WITH REGARDS TO BEING VICTIMS OF FRAUD, IDENTITY THEFT. THEY ESCORT THEM TO, TO TO COURT PROCEEDINGS. THEY GET THEM ASSISTANCE. THEY THEMSELVES HAVE THEIR OWN CASELOAD WITH REGARDS TO FINANCIAL CRIMES INVESTIGATIONS THAT THEY WORK ALONGSIDE WITH OUR INVESTIGATORS IN THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. SO WITH ALL THAT, OUR PROJECTED POLICE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 PERSONNEL REQUEST WERE ACHIEVED THROUGH OUR FISCAL YEAR 25 POSITION CONTROL TRANSFERS BASED ON VACANCIES. WHICH ADDED WAS A TOTAL OF ABOUT $174,000 THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HELP MINIMIZE THE COST FROM TAKING OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND. SO, SO WITH THE REQUEST THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IN 24, AND ALSO FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO REMAIN FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO THE CITY, UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH MONEY THERE IS AND HOW MUCH MONEY THERE ISN'T AVAILABLE. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO OUR OUR POLICING AND OUR RATIOS. WE'VE I'VE SHOWN THIS BEFORE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO COUNCIL. SO OF 248 POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. THE RATIO HAS RISEN. OUR LATEST REPORT THAT THEY HAVE FOR 2023 IS PER 1000 RESIDENTS, AND POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SHOULD BE AT 2.51 OFFICERS PER 1000 RESIDENTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 1.36. WE HAVEN'T GROWN. WE HAVEN'T GONE LOWER BECAUSE THE POPULATION HAS GROWN. SO WE'RE UNABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY. SO JUST TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WE'RE 200 ROWE RANKED 239TH OUT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA OUT OF 248 POLICE DEPARTMENTS. SO THIS GRAPH HERE WILL SHOW YOU FROM 2010 TO 2024. AND YOU'LL SEE THE GROWTH OF OUR CITY FROM 2010. AND ALSO OUR RATIO, WHICH IS IN GREEN, AND THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS SWORN POSITIONS THAT WE'VE HAD FROM 2010 TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY AT 2024 WITH 191 POSITIONS. SO IF YOU IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP OR THE GRAPH FROM FISCAL YEAR 2010 TO 2018, THE CITY'S GROWTH WAS AVERAGED ABOUT 1000 TO 2000 PEOPLE PER YEAR. SO WE WERE DOING OKAY. WE WERE MANAGING IT. BUT ONCE WE GOT TO 2019 TO PRESENT DAY, PRESENT DAY, OUR GROWTH HAS BEEN AVERAGING BETWEEN 4000 TO 7000 PEOPLE PER YEAR. AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME SUSTAINING AND KEEPING UP WITH THAT GROWTH. SO OUR POPULATION, WE'VE MAINTAINED 1.36 FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS. WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, FROM 1.39 TO 1.37 TO THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE BEEN STEADY FOR 1.36. OUR PROJECTIONS TO SUSTAIN GROWTH, TO MAINTAIN. AND I HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE HERE BECAUSE WITH REGARDS TO THE CITY'S BUDGET AND WHAT THE FUNDING LOOKS LIKE, I'M NOT COMPETING WITH WITH DEPARTMENTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FINANCIALLY WE CAN DO AS A CITY. TO SUSTAIN A 1.44 RATIO PER 1000, WE WOULD NEED TO AVERAGE 14 OFFICERS POSITIONS ANNUALLY JUST TO MAINTAIN THAT GROWTH WITH THE WAY THE CITY HAS BEEN GROWING OVER THE LAST 4 TO 5 YEARS. IT'S NOT 2.0. IT'S NOT 2.51. [00:35:01] HOWEVER, UNDERSTANDING WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED SEVERAL MINUTES AGO WITH REGARDS TO OUR ATTRITION RATE, OUR RETIREMENTS, THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED, IF WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN THAT TO WHERE THAT GROWTH ISN'T THAT GAP, ISN'T THAT THAT GREAT. AND WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN 14 OFFICERS AND FILLING THEM EXPEDITIOUSLY WITH OUR RECRUITMENT TEAM, WHICH THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB AND NOT BACK TO THE CITY. WE'LL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN GROWTH OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. OUR PROFESSIONAL STAFF ALSO HAS TO GROW. THAT'S OUR CIVILIAN PERSONNEL, OUR COMM CENTER, OUR RECRUITS DIVISION, OUR PROPERTY AND EVIDENCE DIVISION, OUR CRIME SCENE TECHNICIANS, OUR SUPPORT SERVICES DIVISION. SO AS WE GROW AS POLICE, AS SWORN TO MAINTAIN AND MANAGE THAT, SO DOES OUR CIVILIAN STAFFING WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. JUST TO PUT IT BACK OUT THERE, I KNOW I'VE MENTIONED IT SEVERAL MONTHS BACK. WE HAVE 300 EMPLOYEES FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FROM SWORN TO CIVILIAN TO PART TIME TO VOLUNTEERS. THAT'S THE SIZE OF AN AVERAGE MUNICIPALITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. SO WITH THAT COMES STAFFING. WE HAVE THE LARGEST PIE WITH REGARD TO THE CITY'S BUDGET, BUT WE ALSO OVER 90% OF THAT IS SALARY. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS ONLY ABOUT 2 TO 2 MILLION, $2.2 MILLION. SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. AND AS I'LL DISCUSS HERE WITH REGARDS TO GRANTS, WE PUT IN FOR SEVERAL GRANTS OVER THE LAST YEAR, SEVERAL YEARS. BUT THIS YEAR, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE EVERYBODY AN IDEA LET'S SAY A LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND TO ASSIST OR SUPPLEMENT, NOT TAKING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND OR TAKING IT FROM WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEND OR UTILIZE $162,000 FOR EQUIPMENT FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN. OUT OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRUST FUND THIS PAST 12 MONTHS. WITH THAT ALSO COMES DONATIONS TO PROGRAMS AND COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT WE'RE ALSO PARTNERING WITH WITH OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE UNIT. SO ALSO WITH STATE, STATE GRANTS, WE'VE HAD THE VOCA GRANT, WHICH HELPS SUPPLEMENT SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR OUR VICTIM SERVICES ADVOCATE, WHICH IS $51,000 A YEAR. OUR PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE GRANT THAT WE APPLY FOR EVERY YEAR AND ARE AWARDED EVERY YEAR TO THE TUNE OF $47,000. THAT HELPS US WITH EQUIPMENT THAT ALSO HELPS US WITH OVERTIME EXPENDITURES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, TO HELP THOSE AREAS WHERE THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION DEEMS OUR HIGH LIABILITY INTERSECTIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS, FOR US TO MAN OFF DUTY OFFICERS TO WORK OVERTIME, WHICH SAVES THE CITY FROM US USING OUR OWN OVERTIME MONEY. SPEED AND AGGRESSIVE DRIVING $48,000 DETAIL OR GRANT THAT WE'VE IPTN THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH FLORIDA FOR OUR DRUG RECOGNITION EXPERTS, WHICH IS OUR DUI OFFICERS. IT'S A 5000 $5,000 GRANT THAT WE GET AWARDED THIS YEAR TO HELP WITH THEIR CALL OUTS FOR OUR TRAFFIC HOMICIDE INVESTIGATIONS FOR FATALITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, FOR VEHICULAR CRASHES TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE OVERTIME THERE FOR THEM AS WELL. THE CDBG AND FEMA GRANT FOR HEADQUARTERS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR OUR ROOF, THE TUNE OF 800 OVER $800,000 FOR A BRAND NEW ROOF AND SHUTTERS FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS IN DESPERATE NEED OF SO TO THE TUNE OF OVER $1 MILLION. WE ARE ALSO SEEKING ELSEWHERE TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THE FUNDING WE NEED FOR OUR CITY AND FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THAT WAS THE STATE. WE ALSO HAVE THE FEDERAL GRANTS OUR COPS GRANT. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE PUT IN FOR SIX POSITIONS TO OUR COPS GRANT. A LOT OF MANDATES AND REQUIREMENTS WITH REGARDS TO EACH POSITION, BUT TO THE TUNE OF $750,000, WE WERE ABLE TO HELP THE CITY SAVE OUR JACK GRANT $30,000 PER YEAR. HELPS US WITH EQUIPMENT, RIFLES, GUNS, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO SUPPLEMENT OUR MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE THAT ARE PROTECTING THE CITY AND ALSO OUR DE-ESCALATION GRANT THAT WE JUST GOT AWARDED THIS YEAR FOR $148,000. THAT'S THE HELP. BRING IT TO OUR TRAINING CENTER THAT YOU BROUGHT UP, MR. MAYOR, ON TUESDAY, A SIMULATION TYPE TRAINING SCENARIO VIRTUAL REALITY TYPE TRAINING TO HELP OUR OFFICERS, OUR MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE NOT NECESSARILY ALWAYS NEEDING TO USE LETHAL FORCE, BUT TO DE-ESCALATE AND USE NON-LETHAL TYPE FORCE. SO. I WANT TO GET TO VEHICLES. BECAUSE, MR. MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED IT A FEW MINUTES AGO. SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE SUCCESSFUL, TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN OUR GROWTH, TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THE EMPLOYEES THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE PATROLLING, WE'VE BEEN BLESSED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM AND THIS COUNCIL THAT TRULY ARE SUPPORTERS OF PUBLIC SAFETY. AND I CAN SAY FOR I'LL SPEAK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET FUNDING FOR OUR VEHICLES EVERY YEAR THROUGH WHATEVER MEANS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO. BUT EVERYBODY'S NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER. SO MY CONCERN IS LONG TERM FOR THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT, FOR THIS CITY IS TO HAVE A SUSTAINABLE PROGRAM IN PLACE TO WHERE EVERY YEAR THIS IS HOW MANY VEHICLES PUBLIC SAFETY WILL BE GETTING ANNUALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO COME FROM. WELL, YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO GET FIVE THIS YEAR BECAUSE CURRENTLY, RIGHT NOW I NEED 36 VEHICLES TO BE REPLACED FOR FISCAL YEAR 25. YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR IT COULD BE MORE EVERY YEAR. THE VEHICLES THAT ARE THAT ARE COMING, THEY'RE GETTING OLDER. [00:40:02] THESE FOLKS ARE IN THEIR VEHICLES 24 HOURS A DAY. THEY'RE PUTTING HUNDREDS OF MILES ON THEIR VEHICLES, PATROLLING 80 OVER 80MI² OF A CITY TWO HOURS A DAY FOR THEIR SHIFTS, DAYS AND NIGHTS. SO THAT'S A CONCERN THAT WE HAVE. I KNOW WE'RE WORKING WITH CITY WITH WITH THE CITY ON THAT AND WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND FLEET TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT A PROGRAM LONG TERM, TO HAVE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH REGARDS TO VEHICLES BUILDINGS, INFRASTRUCTURES. THERE'S A SOUTH END EXPANSION, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DISCUSSING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WITH REGARDING GETTING THE BUILDING OUT THERE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SOME SUBSTATIONS ON THE WEST END OF MALABAR, AND ALSO, I BELIEVE IN THE OLD MIKELL ROAD, ASHTON PARK TYPE AREA FOR A SUBSTATION. MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW IS OUR MAIN HEADQUARTERS. WE HAVE OUTGROWN IT. I'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE TO TO COUNCIL. WE GREW OUT OF OUR HEADQUARTERS MANY YEARS AGO, AND CITY MANAGEMENT HAS ALSO PROVIDED US WITH ONCE BUILDING IS UP AND RUNNING, THAT WE'RE GETTING A PORTION OF BUILDING B WHERE IT IS CURRENTLY HOUSED TO HELP SUPPLEMENT THAT STAFFING OR THAT HOUSING NEED. BUT WITH THOSE REQUESTS THAT I'M FOR VACANCIES AND POSITIONS THAT I'M REQUESTING FOR OR I'VE ILLUSTRATED HERE THIS EVENING THE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS AND THEM HAVING A PLACE TO WORK OUT OF INTERNALLY IS STILL A STRUGGLE RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT. WHAT IS THE BEST WAY MOVING FORWARD FOR FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE. WE'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING WITH 150 PERSONNEL IN OUR HEADQUARTERS EVERY DAY OF THE 300. SO THAT'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WE NEED TO WE NEED TO FIND HOUSING FOR. ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I'LL START OFF BY JUST SAYING THANK YOU FOR IN PARTICULAR TO THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT HAVE BEEN PROTECTING OUR CITY. WHAT THEY ENCOUNTERED THIS PAST WEEKEND WITH INVESTIGATIONS AND AND THE TRAGIC ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN FACED WITH, THEY'VE BEEN FACED WITH. I CAN I'M REALLY EXCITED HOW YOU DESCRIBED PULLING FOLKS FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER. BECAUSE INVESTIGATIONS HAVE TO CONTINUE. RIGHT. AND SO YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT. AND I THINK TODAY WE HAVE A COUNCIL THAT DOESN'T WANT TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS TOGETHER. I THINK WE SHARED THAT ON TUESDAY NIGHT DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. BUT I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LET EVERY, EVERY PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIAL IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU. WE UNDERSTAND THE SACRIFICES THAT YOU LAY FOR OUR CITY. AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SACRIFICES THAT YOUR FAMILY LAID. SO MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR CITY. AND AND WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO SUPPORT YOU. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I THINK YOU SAID IT BEST. CHIEF, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKE A MOMENT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU GUYS DO ON DAY IN AND DAY OUT. YOU AND YOUR TEAM. TRULY. WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT, YOU KNOW, JUMPED OUT IN YOUR PRESENTATION PARTICULARLY WE WE ARE AWARE OF THAT. BUT LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. AND HEARING YOU SAYING THAT THE PERFORMANCE, HOW THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO WHAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS, CONSIDERING UNDERSTAFFED IN TERMS OF WITH WHAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH. LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS POINT 36 PER THOUSAND. SO TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE CITY WITH EFFICIENCY AND WHAT THEY DO TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY, IT'S IT'S REMARKABLE. SO JUST EXTEND MY MY THANKS TO THEM AND PLEASE CONTINUE DOING THE, THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING AND KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COUNCIL THAT TRULY HAVE YOUR BACK AND TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE TO TO SUPPORT YOU GUYS. APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YES, MAYOR. I HAVE A FEW THINGS. OH, IT'S ON NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE YOU. I APPRECIATE THE MEN AND WOMEN. Y'ALL BEEN BUSY. Y'ALL BEEN PRETTY BUSY. BUT Y'ALL GETTING Y'ALL GETTING THE JOB DONE. AND Y'ALL ARE PICKING UP THE SLACK WHERE OTHERS AREN'T. BUT I WANT WHAT I WANTED TO FIRST SPEAK ON. WE GOT THE EMAIL FROM THE CITY MANAGER. WE'VE GONE UP OVER 7000 FROM LAST YEAR, FROM JUNE 2023, UP 7000 TO 140,000. YES. I'M MAN ENOUGH TO OWN MY OWN MISTAKES, YOU KNOW, WHEN I MAKE THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT KICKING THE CAN AND OTHER THINGS, BUT WOULD YOU SAY THAT ALSO SOME OF THE APPROVING OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENTS HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO US STAYING IN THE SAME NUMBER, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADDING ON MORE OFFICERS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP UP. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A THERE HAS TO BE A HAPPY MEDIUM. THERE HAS TO BE A HAPPY. SO I WANTED TO HEAR YOUR TAKE ON THAT. YES, I DO, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S HAD AN IMPACT. ALL OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AND DEPARTMENTS. AND I'LL SPEAK FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. YES. AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I GIVE KUDOS. AND I COMMEND OUR, OUR, OUR LEADERSHIP WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN ON OUR CIVILIAN STAFF AND OUR SWORN STAFF, BECAUSE WITH THAT, WE'VE BEEN [00:45:10] THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHAVE 38 SECONDS OFF OUR RESPONSE TIME FOR HIGH PRIORITY CALLS. BUT WITH THAT, MY CONCERN LONG TERM AS YOUR CHIEF IS I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE CAN SUSTAIN THAT WITH OUR CURRENT TREND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT HAS HAD AN IMPACT. SO YES, OUR RESPONSE TIMES, IF OUR OFFICERS AREN'T STRATEGICALLY PLACED IN THOSE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS OR ZONES WHICH IS OUR PLAN AND OUR GOAL MOVING FORWARD, RIGHT, WITH THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH. IT'S BEEN TOUGH FOR THEM. AND I MEAN, WE ALL SEE IT. THE TRAFFIC. WE WANT GROWTH. WE WANT THE CITY TO GROW. I MEAN, IT'S IT IS WHAT IT IS. AND BUT WITH THAT, AS AS YOU GUYS ARE FULLY AWARE ALREADY, I'M NOT I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR. WE HAVE TO HAVE SUSTAINABILITY WITH, WITH THOSE PROVIDING THE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. YES, SIR. AND I AGREE. AND TO THE RESPONSE TIMES, ANOTHER QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK, BECAUSE WE HAVE MORE RESIDENTS AND SOME MIGHT BE CALLING FOR LOW PRIORITY THINGS, BUT WHEN THEY CALL 911, THAT'S TAKING IT UP FROM SOMEBODY WHO NEEDS SOMETHING HIGH PRIORITY. DO YOU SEE THAT? THERE COULD BE BETTER, I GUESS. EDUCATION FOR RESIDENTS ON CALLING NON-EMERGENCY. SO THAT WAY IT FREES UP THE LINE FOR THOSE THAT ARE TRULY IN NEED. YES. AND WE AND OUR DISPATCHERS DEAL WITH THAT ROUTINELY, YOU KNOW, AND WE THEY EDUCATE THEM THE BEST THEY CAN, BUT THEY DO HAPPEN. BUT THEY ALSO ARE OUR TELECOMMUNICATORS. THEY DO A GREAT JOB IN TRIAGING OF WHAT THOSE PRIORITIES ARE AND ARE QUICKLY ABLE TO GET THOSE OUT TO OUR OFFICERS. SO IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL. SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'LL STAY ON TOP OF. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. THE LAST THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, OUT OF THE 38 VACANCIES, 19, I BELIEVE HAVE NAMES OR. YES. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY. WHAT WHAT WHAT STRATEGY I KNOW WE HAVE OCTOBER 1ST IS GOING INTO EFFECT. WHAT STRATEGY ARE WE LOOKING AT OR WE. WELL, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE COMING UP OVER THE NEXT I DON'T WANT TO JINX IT OR, YOU KNOW, MISSPEAK. BUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS TO A WEEK, YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA THAT OUR SOCIAL MEDIA TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON AND ARE IN THE CITY'S COMMUNICATIONS TEAM WITH REGARDS TO LETTING EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH WITH REGARDS TO THE NEW CONTRACT, WHY THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO COME AND WORK AND LIVE. AS WELL AS RECRUITING, GOING TO RECRUITING AREAS, GOING OUT OF AREA. SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX WITH BIG THINGS. WE'RE LOOKING AT GOING ON BILLBOARDS. SO WE'RE THEY'RE BEING CREATIVE. THAT'S WHAT I WAS ALONG THAT LINE. AND ALSO GOING TO EVEN ADVERTISING IN STATES THAT AREN'T AS OPEN AND FRIENDLY TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. IN FACT, I WOULD JUST DISCUSS THIS THREE HOURS BEFORE I SHOWED UP FOR THE MEETING. SO TO BE OUT OF AREA AND WE'RE ALSO TALKING TO OUR MILITARY. SO WE'RE COMMUNICATING WITH OUR MILITARY AS WELL, THAT THOSE THAT ARE CLOSE TO ETS AND THEN GETTING OUT OF SERVICE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT REALLY ALARMED ME WAS THE 33 DUTY INJURIES I KNEW. I KNOW A FEW OF THEM FROM SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN 46 FL, FMLA, AND 11 LEAVE FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. WOULD YOU SAY THAT'S AN INCREASE? IS THAT ABOUT THE SAME? IT'S BEEN AN INCREASE. SO WITH THAT AND IT'S A MULTITUDE OF THINGS WITH THE FMLA AND IT COULD BE FROM INJURIES. IT COULD BE FROM PERSONAL FAMILIAL TYPE SITUATIONS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH. THAT THEY'RE TAKING ASKING FOR TIME OFF. SO IT'S A MULTITUDE OF THINGS. THE INJURIES THE INJURIES ARE THE INJURIES. THE I WILL SAY THAT THE CITY OUR OFFICERS, I SHOULD SAY, HAVE SEEN AN UPTICK IN AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR. AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THEY'RE IN A POSITION TO GET HURT AND GET INJURED THEMSELVES. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING. SO. WELL, THE LIKE THE 46 FMLA, WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THEY WOULD GO LIKE TOWARDS THE WELLNESS COORDINATOR FOR ASSISTANCE OR IS THAT SOMETHING? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IT'S FOR. BUT NORMALLY THEY GO WE GO WITH OUR HR DEPARTMENT. THE HR DEPARTMENT TAKES CARE OF THEM FROM FROM THAT RESPECT WITH REGARD TO THEM NEEDING TIME OFF OR INTERMITTENT FMLA TIME TYPE OF A DEAL. BUT WITHIN OUR WELLNESS COORDINATOR BUT WITHIN OUR WELLNESS COORDINATOR THAT HAS BEEN A BLESSING IN AND OF ITSELF. BRINGING ASHLEY HARRELL ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. BASED ON HER LEVEL OF EXPERTISE AND HER EXPERIENCES WITH OTHER ENTITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO HELP OUR MEN AND WOMEN, BOTH SWORN AND CIVILIAN. SO. ALL RIGHT, I'M GOOD MAN. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. JUST TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE GROWTH, LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND WITH OUR IMPACT FEES. AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A STUDY AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY RAISE THOSE IMPACT FEES AS WELL, AND I AGREE. THE REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP, ALSO, I WAS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE PREVIOUSLY WITH THE MORATORIUM. I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT. BUT SEEING THIS DATA AND KNOWING THIS DATA, WE CAN ACT BETTER ON FUTURE DECISIONS. [00:50:02] SO THAT'S ALL I'M GETTING AT GETTING THAT. LIKE, YES, WE'RE I'M IN SUPPORT OF YOU GETTING MORE OFFICERS, MORE, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND EVERYTHING. BUT THEN WE ON THE OTHER END HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS BEHIND EVERY DECISION THAT, HEY, ARE WE KEEPING THE GAP THE SAME? UNDERSTOOD. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE LIKE THE FEDERAL LEVEL, SO. ABSOLUTELY. WELL, ACTUALLY THEY'RE INCREASING THE GAP, SO. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT, LET ME STOP. THANK YOU CHIEF. AGAIN MAN THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT PROTECT US EACH AND EVERY DAY AND THAT'S POLICE AND FIRE. GOD BLESS YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. NEXT, I'LL BRING UP OUR FIRE CHIEF, RICHARD STOVER. THANK YOU. OKAY. SORRY. I NEED A GIRL. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MADAM SHERMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT THE STUFF WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST YEAR AND WHAT OUR NEEDS WILL BE FOR THE FUTURE. A QUICK LOOK BACK HERE, AND I'M NOT, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THERE'S SEVERAL SLIDES HERE. THERE'S SOME THAT ARE BASICALLY A COOKIE CUTTER TEMPLATE WITH JUST DIFFERENT STATION NUMBERS, AND I'LL MOVE THROUGH THOSE VERY RAPIDLY. SO FIRST OFF, I WANT TO TAKE AND I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. I WANT TO SAY VERY MUCH HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT YOU'VE GIVEN US OVER THE PAST YEAR. CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM, AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS BEHIND ME THAT ALSO NEED SOME RECOGNITION FOR ALL THE HELP THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US AND GETTING THROUGH THE YEAR AND GETTING THINGS DONE. SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU'VE GIVEN US THE NINE ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS. YOU'VE GIVEN US THE WHICH LED TO THE GRADUATION CLASS THAT SOME OF YOU WERE AT A FEW WEEKS AGO. THERE WAS AN UNDESIGNATED FUND TRANSFER OF OVER $1 MILLION TO HELP US GET UP TO SNUFF ON SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO GET CAUGHT, CAUGHT UP WITH SCBAS OR THE AIR PACKS THAT WE WEAR, THE P25 RADIO SYSTEMS, AND OTHER ADDITIONAL SMALL TOOLS AND IMPLEMENTS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO GET EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE UP TO DATE ON THE APPARATUS REPLACEMENT OF THE SOME STAFF VEHICLES. YOU ALSO GAVE US A TRAINING DIVISION, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD IN AN EXTREMELY LONG TIME. SO WITH THAT CAME A BATTALION CHIEF AND A LIEUTENANT. AND THAT'S BEEN A HUGE IMPACT ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GO OUT TO TRAIN THE NEW HIRES. WE HAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION UNIT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE, AND WE ARE NOW DOING THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH YOU ALSO GAVE US THE ABILITY TO HAVE AN ASSISTANT CHIEF THAT OVERSEES THAT. SO I THANK ALL OF YOU, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, INCLUDING THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS BEHIND ME, THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN HELPING US MAKE THIS SUCH A SUCCESS. BUT I THANK ALL OF YOU UP THERE FOR THE FUNDING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. SO WITH THAT, AS THAT'S THE HISTORY AND STUFF LIKE THIS, AS YOU SEE HERE, THIS IS THE GROWTH OR THIS IS THE TIMELINE OF STATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU'LL NOTICE WHEN WE DID OUR LAST, OUR FIRST STATION, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MOST RECENT, WHICH IS JUST AN ENGINE THAT'S OUT AT SIX. AND OBVIOUSLY FIRE STATION SIX IS A SHARED FACILITY WITH THE COUNTY WHERE THEY HAVE A RESCUE TRANSPORT UNIT, AND WE HAVE AN ENGINE COMPANY OUT THERE. YOU'VE GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO BUILD FIRE STATION SEVEN. THAT DATE HAS CHANGED. THE GROUNDBREAKING IS NOW LOOKING PROBABLY AT SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER. ALL THE CONTRACTS AND EVERYTHING ARE GETTING READY TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU IN MY BY MY UNDERSTANDING. AND ONCE THAT'S DONE, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BE EARLY IN AUGUST, WE'LL START THE GROUNDBREAKING. AND WE'RE LOOKING LIKE AT A TEN MONTH BUILD RIGHT THERE. SO WE'RE WE'RE DOING VERY GOOD ON THERE. YOU'VE GIVEN US THE AREA, THE LADDER TRUCK AND THE STAFFING TO START MOVING THAT FORWARD. SO WE'RE PREPPED AND READY WHEN IT'S TIME TO OPEN THAT STATION OPERATIONS. ROUGHLY 130 PEOPLE OUT OF THE SIX STATIONS. REALLY, IT'S FIVE AND A HALF BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE, WE HAVE JUST AN ENGINE AND WE SHARE WITH THE COUNTY THE POPULATION. WE'VE HEARD THE POPULATION EARLIER TONIGHT. THE RAPID GROWTH IN THE SOUTHERN AND NORTHWEST AREAS HAS REALLY BEEN A PROBLEM FOR US, AND WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT AS WE MOVE FURTHER OR QUICKER THROUGH THE PROGRAM HERE. OUR BASIC MAKEUP OF OUR FLEET. AND AS YOU'VE NOTICED IN ONE OF THE OTHER SLIDES THAT'S COMING UP, THE AGE OF OUR FLEET, WHILE THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF WORK DONE TO HELP US MODERNIZE THAT FLEET, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. AND WE WORK WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OBVIOUSLY NOT JUST EXTERNAL FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENTS, BUT OUR FLEET AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND WHILE FLEET DOES THE BEST THEY CAN, THEY HAVE LIMITATIONS WITH PARTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THERE'S THERE'S A HANG UP ON THOSE RESPONSE ON THOSE TURNAROUND TIMES THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE SLIDE RIGHT HERE. IT TELLS YOU WHAT OUR DOWNTIME IS FOR THESE VEHICLES AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN OVER THE PAST THREE AND FIVE YEARS, TWO AND FIVE YEARS, I BELIEVE IT IS. THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS WE HAVE THREE SPARE TRUCKS. [00:55:02] AND WHEN WE PUT THAT TRUCK IN THERE AND THEY HAVE NO PARTS, WHICH IS BEYOND THEIR ABILITY, WE HAVE TO SHIP THEM IN FROM ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY. THAT'S A TRUCK DOWN. AND THERE'S BEEN DAYS WHERE WE'VE GOTTEN TO WHERE WE HAVE NO MORE SPARE TRUCKS, SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE UPCOMING SLIDES. ALSO, IF WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE'RE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE, AND ONE OF THEM IS THE THE QUINCE, THAT'S THE IT'S BASICALLY LIKE AN ENGINE WITH A SMALLER IT'S A 75 FOOT LADDER AS OPPOSED TO THE 100 OR 100 PLUS THE REQUESTS WE HAVE IN AND WE'RE WORKING ON. ONCE THOSE LAND ON THE GROUND, WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE OUR THREE ISO THREE RATING TO AN ISO ONE. THAT'S HUGE. THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE STEP. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE FOR HOMEOWNERS, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN AND THESE ARE ESTIMATES THAT AND I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THESE ARE ESTIMATES. AND THE INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE THE ONES THAT DETERMINE THIS. BUT THE AVERAGE SAVINGS WHEN WE GO TO A ONE WOULD BE 90 TO $432 ON YOUR FIRE INSURANCE, AND YOUR BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING AT THE 125 TO 600. ALTHOUGH WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR LARGER STORES, YOUR WALMARTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT SAVINGS TURNS INTO THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. SO THERE'S BUYING, BUYING THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT, DEPLOYING IT IN THE RIGHT LOCATION AND STAFFING IT CORRECTLY, WHICH YOU'VE BEEN VERY, VERY GRACIOUS AT HELPING US GET THERE MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE TAXPAYERS, THE BUSINESS OWNERS, REDUCE COSTS DOWN THE ROAD. THIS IS BASICALLY JUST A MAP OF WHERE WE NEED TO GO, AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THAT. IF MOST OF THAT IS IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY, WHERE WE'RE HAVING A LOT OF RESPONSE TIME ISSUES RIGHT NOW, AS YOU'RE AWARE, TO COME FROM OUR SOUTHERN STATIONS, STATION FOUR AND STATION SIX, WE HAVE RESPONSE TIMES TO BABCOCK AND THE PARKWAY OF APPROXIMATELY 18 TO 20 MINUTES, AND THAT'S IF EVERYTHING'S GOOD. THE UNITS ARE IN THE STATION. THE TRAFFIC'S IN OUR FAVOR. AND AS YOU GO FURTHER SOUTH, OBVIOUSLY THOSE THOSE TIMES INCREASE. SO WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT IN HERE. ALSO, SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS NOT JUST ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT AND ADDITIONAL STATIONS AND STAFFING, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES FOR MUTUAL AID. THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT US THE MOST IF WE CAN GET THIS HANDLED, IS A MUTUAL AID OR AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT WITH INDIAN RIVER COUNTY FOR THE SOUTHERN ENDS, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OF THEIR ONE OF THEIR STATIONS, AND MAYBE TWO OF THEM HAVE A MUCH QUICKER RESPONSE TIME INTO OUR CITY THAN WE DO. IS THAT LIKE FROM FELLSMERE OR THAT WOULD COME FROM THE CITY OF FELLSMERE INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF INDIAN RIVER WITHIN INDIAN RIVER COUNTY? YES. OKAY. YES. I'M JUST TRYING TO TRACK THE LOCATION OF. YES, SIR. YEAH. UP THERE. WHAT? I THINK THAT'S LIKE 512 AREA SOUTH FIVE. YES, SIR. I'M AWARE OF, I BELIEVE. YEAH. WELL, SO THEY'RE RESPONDING A LOT QUICKER. JUST SHOOTING RIGHT UP BACK THERE. NOT YET. WE'RE PLANNING ON MEETING WITH THEM SO THAT WE CAN SET UP A MUTUAL AID OR AN AUTOMATIC AID AGREEMENT FOR CERTAIN CALLS. THEY WILL GO THE SAME TIME WE GET THE CALL, AND WHOEVER GETS THERE FIRST GOES TO WORK FIRST, AND THEY'RE WILLING TO MEET WITH YOU. AT THIS POINT, I'M SORRY, ARE THEY WILLING TO MEET WITH YOU AT THIS? YES THEY ARE. WE'VE TRIED A COUPLE TIMES, BUT OUR SCHEDULES JUST HAVE CONFLICTED. AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A CHANGE. THERE WAS A CHANGE OF COMMAND THERE, JUST LIKE THERE HAS BEEN HERE IN THE PAST YEAR. AND EVERYBODY'S GETTING CAUGHT UP TO SPEED. COPY THAT. BUT THEY HAVE BEEN COOPERATIVE AND WILLING TO MEET WITH US. WE JUST. WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE DATE. SOME OF OUR PRIORITIES, AND THIS IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST IS STATION NINE DOWN BY SUNRISE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. WE'RE WORKING CURRENTLY ON FINDING TWO THINGS A TEMPORARY LOCATION, WHICH I WAS EXPECTING A PHONE CALL BACK FROM THE DEVELOPER TODAY. I'LL CALL HIM TOMORROW AND SEE WHAT HE HAS FOR ME, BUT HE HAS EXPRESSED THAT THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO LEASE FOR UP TO THREE YEARS, WHICH WOULD HOUSE A TEMPORARY STATION AND A STAFF WITH ONE ENGINE AND MAYBE A SQUAD. IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD, THEN WE WOULD FIND A PERMANENT LOCATION, WHICH WE HAVE A COUPLE PERMANENT LOCATIONS ALSO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AND THAT SAME VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT WILL HOUSE A PERMANENT STATION. AND YOU'LL SEE THERE THE AREAS, WHAT'S IN THERE AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AS YOU NOTE, WE HAVE WHERE WE LOOK AT DIFFERENT INDIAN RIVER COUNTY. THE LAST LINE THERE IS A 14. EVEN IF WE GET THEM TO HELP US WITH MUTUAL AID THERE 14 TO 20 MINUTES AWAY. YEAH. THAT'S THAT'S THE DILEMMA WE'RE DEALING WITH. WE'RE 18 TO 20 THERE, 14 TO 20 IN THAT AREA OF THE OF THE CITY. THAT'S WHY YES, SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THE STATIONS AND SOME OF THE STUFF YOU'LL SEE IS EITHER ALREADY PURCHASED OR WE'RE LOOKING AT WE'RE UTILIZING IMPACT FEES AND THE IMPACT FEE THAT THAT REQUEST WILL BE COMING BY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEETINGS TO WHERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY ABOUT $5 MILLION OF EXPENDITURES ON SQUADS [01:00:01] TENDERS THAT ARE ALSO HIGH WATER VEHICLES AND SOME OTHER MISCELLANEOUS EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THINGS WORK. THAT'S THE MAKEUP OF WHAT ONE OF THESE STATIONS ARE NOW, STATION NINE AND STATION TWO. THEIR STAFFING AND THEIR EQUIPMENT IS A LITTLE HEAVIER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH END. AND OUR PLAN THERE IS TO MAKE THEM MORE OF A SUPER STATION AND KEEP THE BASIC DESIGN THAT WE'RE USING NOW AT ALL THE REST OF THE STATIONS. WITH THAT GROWTH COMES ADDITIONAL SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL SUCH AS BATTALION CHIEFS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. STATION EIGHT. THAT WOULD BE OUR NEXT ONE AT MALABAR AND HERITAGE. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF TRANSFERRING THAT PROPERTY. ONCE WE GET THERE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO A STATION VERY SIMILAR TO STATION SEVEN IN THAT AREA THERE IN STAFFORD, APPROPRIATELY. ALSO, JUST AGAIN, THE SAME PRICE AND EVERYTHING ARE THE SAME LAYOUT OF WHAT WE NEED THERE. BUT AGAIN, AS YOU NOTICE, THERE'S A LESS OF A STAFF AND A LESS OF EQUIPMENT REQUEST FOR THESE STATIONS. STATION TWO. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH A REALTOR TO FIND PROPERTY TO TRY AND REBUILD, TO RELOCATE STATION TWO FROM ITS CURRENT SITE. AND WE ALL KNOW THE CONDITION OF STATION TWO. WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS AND SOME PROPERTIES WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO NARROW SOME THINGS DOWN AND CHECK WITH ONE OTHER LANDOWNER TO SEE IF THEY'RE WILLING TO, TO LET US BUY SOME PROPERTY. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO HIT IS WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO STAY. WHILE I LOVE HAVING THE FACE ON MALABAR ROAD, SO EVERYBODY SEES IT AT THE SAME TIME, THAT TAKES AWAY YOUR, YOUR TAX BASE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT. SO THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE THERE. BUT WE'RE WORKING ON DOING THAT ALSO WITH THAT. THAT'S THE OTHER STATION THAT WOULD HAVE THE ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND THE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT. STATION 11 DOWN IN ASHTON PARK AGAIN. THERE'S YOUR RESPONSE TIME. 17 MINUTES. IT'S ROUGH DOWN IN THE SOUTH END OF THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROJECTING TO PUT THE BULK OF OUR FIRST ROUND OF STATIONS. IF WE GET 2 TO 3 STATIONS DOWN THERE PRETTY RAPIDLY, THAT WILL REDUCE THIS CONSIDERABLY. AGAIN, SAME LAYOUT WITH COSTS AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO NEED THERE. STATION SIX WE HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE JUST NEED TO BUILD ON IT, AND BASED ON THE CONDITION AND THE AGE OF THE COUNTY STATION, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT THE COUNTY WOULD. AT THAT POINT, WHEN WE OCCUPY OURS, THEY'D WANT TO MOVE THEIR RESCUE IN WITH OURS. ALSO, THEY HAVE NOT MADE THAT OFFICIAL STATEMENT. BUT LOOKING AT THE CONDITION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT. ALSO. WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PARTNERSHIP. YES, SIR. EACH STATION THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING HAS A LOCATION SET ASIDE FOR THE COUNTY BUNK ROOM, PANTRIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SHOULD THEY CHOOSE? THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME IN THERE. AND THEN WE WORK OUT THE COST SHARING AT THAT POINT THERE BASED ON WHAT UNITS THEY PUT IN THERE. COOL. STATION 13. THAT WOULD BE OUR FURTHEST SOUTH STATION. AND AGAIN, THE MAP THERE, THAT'S THE LAYOUT AND EVERYTHING. IT'S JUST SO FAR DOWN THE ROAD. WE KNOW THAT GENERAL AREA, SO WE'VE NOT REALLY GOT THE MAP THERE TO SHOW YOU, BUT IT WOULD LAY OUT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE DEVELOPER AS A REGULAR STATION WITH BASIC STAFFING AND EQUIPMENT. STATION TEN INCHES THE AREA. CURRENTLY WE'RE WORKING WITH BREVARD COUNTY TO COVER THAT AREA. THIS WOULD PUT A STATION THERE AND WE'D BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY BACK. AGAIN. JUST THE THE COSTING OF THE STATION. STATION 12 OUT IN THE COMPOUND. AND YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY FOR STATION TEN. STATION TEN, I BELIEVE YOU SAID. YES, I BELIEVE WE DO. YES, SIR. OH. WRONG WAY. SORRY ABOUT THAT. LET ME GET BACK THERE REAL QUICK. I BELIEVE WE DO HAVE THAT PROPERTY UP THERE. YES, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE THE ONE STATION IF YOU LOOK THERE. YEAH, ACTUALLY, YEAH, I SEE THAT'S WHERE IT'S LAID OUT ON THAT THERE. YES. THE COMPOUND AREA NOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME TALK AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO. IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE A FIRE STATION OR SOMETHING JOINT WITH THE POLICE. WE'RE STILL WE'VE HAD THOSE TALKS. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT AS WE GET DOWN THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S A LONG RANGE PLAN THERE. AGAIN, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER BASIC STATIONS. STATION FIVE THIS IS THIS IS A CURRENT STATION. THE PROBLEM IS IT'S POORLY DESIGNED, IT'S INADEQUATE FOR STAFFING. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT MAKE THE LIVING IN IT NOT THE BEST OF CONDITIONS. SO WHAT OUR PROPOSAL IS GOING TO BE THERE AS WE GET TO THAT AREA OF GETTING THE STATIONS THAT WE NEED THAT WE DON'T HAVE, WE HAVE NO STATIONS IN THAT AREA. ONCE WE GET BACK UP TO THIS PART OF THE CITY, WHAT WE WANT TO DO THERE IS LEAVE THE STATION OPEN, BUT NOT AS A STATION. TURN IT INTO A TRAINING CENTER AS YOU KNOW THE TOWERS THERE. THIS WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO HAVE COVER AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WE TEACH CLASSES. RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE OUT THERE EATING LUNCH IN THEIR CARS. THEY'RE STANDING OUTSIDE UNDER THE SUN ALL THE TIME, AND IT'S EIGHT WEEKS. THEY'RE STANDING OUTSIDE THERE AND DOING THINGS. [01:05:02] SO THIS WILL HELP GET SOME COVER AND STUFF LIKE THAT. BECAUSE WHEN WE DO MOVE THEM INSIDE FOR REASONS WE'RE TAKING OVER THE FIRE STATION WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING, SO THAT THAT IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION THERE. SO THAT WOULD GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE'D HAVE TO START OF A TRAINING CENTER, AND WITH THAT, WE'D USE THE SAME DESIGN AS THE OTHER STATIONS. THEN. THEN JUST MOVE IT IN A LOCATION CLOSE TO THIS PROXIMITY. WE'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING TO MOVE IT MUCH FURTHER FROM HERE, BUT MAKE IT A REAL FIRE STATION. WITH THAT, I TALKED ABOUT THE TRAINING CENTER, SOME OF THE THINGS, AND ONE OF THESE ARE, AND I BELIEVE ACTUALLY BOTH OF THESE ARE IN THE REQUEST YOU'RE GOING TO SEE HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR IMPACT FEES. WE'RE TRYING TO UTILIZE THE IMPACT FEES AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE IN ALL THESE NEW PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE NEVER HAD THINGS BEFORE AND THINGS THAT WE NEED AS A AS OPPOSED TO ASKING THE TAXPAYERS TO FUND SOME OF THESE THINGS, WE'VE GOT THE IMPACT FEES. THERE'S A HEALTHY POT RIGHT NOW AND WE'RE LOOKING AT BRINGING SOME OF THESE THINGS IN. WE HAVE THE TRAINING TOWER IN PLACE. THIS WOULD GIVE US CLASSROOM SPACE, AND THERE'S SOME OTHER STUFF GOING ON TO WORK WITH ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM SPACE THAT THAT MAY WORK OUT. WE'RE NOT SURE YET. THIS WOULD GIVE US THE TOP RIGHT PHOTO IS A FLASHOVER CONTAINER. IT TEACHES FIRE BEHAVIOR AND SHOWS HOW TO PREVENT WHAT IT COULD BE. ONE OF THE MOST DEADLIEST EVENTS IN THE FIRE SERVICE. IF YOU'RE NOT READING THE SMOKE AND THE HEAT AND EVERYTHING ELSE RIGHT, AND YOU OPEN THE DOOR AT THE WRONG TIME, IT'S LIKE AN EXPLOSION AND IT'S KNOWN TO KILL FIREFIGHTERS INSTANTLY. THIS PROP WILL TEACH THEM HOW THEY CAN TURN THAT BAD INCIDENT INTO SOMETHING MANAGEABLE, AND PUT IT OUT WITH AS LITTLE AS A WATER CAN. A LITTLE A SMALL WATER FIRE EXTINGUISHER, IF THEY IF THEY RECOGNIZE THE SIGNS AHEAD OF TIME. ROOF PROPS. SO WHEN WE GET ON ROOFS AND WE DO VENTILATION AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THIS IS THE PLACE ALL WE ONCE WE GET IT IN HERE, ALL WE'RE DOING IS REPLACING PLYWOOD AND WE'RE TRAINING THEM HOW TO WALK AROUND ON A ROOF. SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WILL GO OUT THERE WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF, ONCE WE GET IT CERTIFIED AS A STATE CERTIFIED TRAINING CENTER, THEN WE ARE ALLOWED TO START TEACHING CLASSES THAT GENERATE REVENUE. ONE OF THE OTHER GOOD THINGS ABOUT THAT IS, IS WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE START DOING OUR RECRUITMENT TO A POINT TO WHERE WE WANT TO DO IT FROM THE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE THEY ARE NOT FIREFIGHTERS. WHEN WE BECOME A STATE CERTIFIED TRAINING CENTER, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HIRE SOMEONE THAT IS NOT A FIREFIGHTER, PUT THEM THROUGH THE TRAINING PROGRAM HERE AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WITH OUR TRAINING VISION, SO THAT THAT WILL HELP US TRY TO KEEP THE CANDIDATES LOCAL FROM THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS THEY'RE GETTING READY TO COME OUT. THAT'S A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE GOT TO GET ALL THE ALL THE STUFF IN PLACE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S THE GOAL WITH THIS LOCATION. THEN WE CAN BRING IN OTHER LOCAL, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THE FLASHOVER CONTAINER THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHEN I WAS DOWN SOUTH, WE PUT ONE OF THOSE IN, AND THE ENTIRE DADE COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT ROTATED THROUGH IT, $50 A PERSON. THAT'S 2200 PEOPLE THAT RAN THROUGH THERE SO THAT THEY COULD PUT THEIR PEOPLE THROUGH THAT TRAINING. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY THAT COMES IN. IT'S JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT'S GOING ON. YEAH, I KIND OF LIKE THIS. I WANTED TO TOUCH A LITTLE BIT ON THAT. I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS WITH IT, BUT IF YOU'RE STATE CERTIFIED TRAINING FACILITY, THEN THERE'LL BE OTHER AGENCIES THAT'LL SEND FOLKS TO, TO US AND, AND WE COULD GET COMPENSATED FOR THAT. YES. WHAT I'M HEARING. YES, SIR. WE CAN CHARGE PER CLASS. OKAY. AND IT WORKS OUT REALLY WELL. THERE'S WAYS TO MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY, WHICH IS LONG TERM, BUT THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE WAY TO GET IT TO WHERE YOU STARTED, TO WHERE IT STARTS COVERING A LOT OF THE COSTS. AND WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONS ALREADY ON HAND THAT WE COULD TURNKEY THIS WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE CLASSROOMS AND WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF THAT CERTIFIED THE TRAIN. YES, OUR TRAINING STAFF, OUR STATE CERTIFIED FIRE INSTRUCTORS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS TWO THREE AND ONE THREE BEING THE THE HIGHEST CARRY ON, CARRY ON OUR TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM, WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW TO GET THAT UP TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE SO THAT IT CAN BECOME A FULLY FUNCTIONAL, STATE RECOGNIZED TEAM. RIGHT NOW, ALL WE CAN DO OFFICIALLY IS WORK WITHIN THE CITY AND THEN GO OUT AND RUN MUTUAL AID TO HELP A STATE CERTIFIED TEAM. THE COST THERE. WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF, THE COST TO GET THEM ALL TRAINED UP TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE. BUT WE ARE WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO HELP SHARE THAT COST SO THAT WE CAN GET THINGS DONE TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S CHEAPER OVERALL. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SECTION, NOT ONLY DO THEY HANDLE CALLS THAT HAPPEN, NOT ARE INCIDENTS LIKE HURRICANES, STORMS, FLOODING, THAT KIND OF STUFF. THEY'RE INVOLVED IN GETTING PEOPLE TRAINED AHEAD OF TIME. SO THEY'RE ALL PREPPED AND WE'RE WORKING ON A PROGRAM. YOU A FEW MONTHS AGO, YOU APPROVED THE MONEY TO GO AHEAD AND START TRAINING THE ENTIRE CITY ON APPROPRIATE CLASSES. WE'RE GETTING READY TO START LAUNCHING THOSE. AND THEN AFTER THE STORM, WE HELP MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S WAS DONE PRIOR TO PHOTOS, SATELLITE IMAGERY AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT WHEN WE GO [01:10:05] FOR OUR REPLACEMENT FUNDS, THEY SEE WHAT IT WAS, AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE SHOW WHAT IT IS. AND THEN THAT HELPS OUT TO WHERE WE HAVE A HIGHER CHANCE OF GETTING THE REFUNDS BACK FROM THE FEDS AND THE STATE. SO YOU GAVE US THE ONE GUY, THE ASSISTANT CHIEF, THAT'S HANDLING THAT RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL PEOPLE AS OF OCTOBER 1ST. THAT'LL HELP US MAKE IT HAPPEN. NOW, THE REST OF THESE ARE CURRENT STATIONS, AND REALLY, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH ALL FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S AT THOSE STATIONS ALREADY. BUT THE THING HERE IS, IS EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE LIKE STATION ONE IS A NEWER STATION, IT NEEDS RENOVATION. EACH ONE OF THESE STATIONS, THIS JUST NEEDS A TOTAL REPLACEMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON. THESE STATIONS NEED ADDITIONAL SPACE. THEY NEED REPAINTED. THEY NEED MODERNIZED INSIDE. SO WE'VE PUT IN THE REQUEST IN THERE TO TURN AROUND AND IN OUR BUDGET TO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN TOO. AND THE FINAL NUMBERS YOU'LL SEE HERE. AND AGAIN, YOU'LL NOTICE AS WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THESE NEW STATIONS, OLD STATIONS, THE TRUCKS THAT WE'VE TARGETED TO USE FOR IMPACT FEES. NOW, SOME OF THESE UNITS, THE SQUADS ARE I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 11 TO 12 MONTHS, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO GET IN THE CITY ONCE WE PURCHASE THEM. THE HIGH WATER VEHICLES, WHICH WE'RE USING A DIFFERENT STYLE THAN WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST. WHEN THE HIGH WATER VEHICLE COMES INTO THE CITY AT THIS POINT, IT'LL COME TO WHERE IT GOES RIGHT THEN AND THERE. ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WATER AND IT'S GOING TO BE FUNCTIONING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUY A CHASSIS, BUY A BUNCH OF PIECES AND THEN SEND IT OUT TO GET FIXED. WE'RE HAVING IT COME IN JUST LIKE IT WAS AN ENGINE COMPANY. AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO UTILIZE TWO TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. THE IMPACT FEES STATION FOUR JUST TO BREAK DOWN. BUT AGAIN IT LOOKS NICE. BUT WHEN YOU GET INSIDE IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NICE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FIVE AND SOME OF THE UNITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING AS WE MOVE IN THERE. IT DOES NOT HAVE A SQUAD RIGHT NOW. WE'LL BE WORKING ON PUTTING THAT IN THERE ALSO ONCE WE GET GOING. STATION SIX, WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT. IT CURRENTLY HAS A NEW BRUSH TRUCK FIRE ADMINISTRATION. IF YOU'VE BEEN IN OUR BUILDING, NOT ONLY DOES IT HAVE NO WINDOWS, BUT IT'S IT'S AN OLD BUILDING. WHILE IT'S STILL FUNCTIONAL, THERE'S NOWHERE NEAR THE SPACE FOR US. WE'RE IN THE SAME CONDITION, THE SAME POSITION THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT IS, IS WE NEED SPACE. WE'VE GROWN OVER THE PAST YEAR. YOU GUYS HAVE ALLOWED US TO GROW A LOT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO BE GROWING MORE AFTER OCTOBER, AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THAT. BUT WE NEED SPACE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OPTIONS THERE. AND IF WE DO THE RIGHT OPTIONS AND AT THE RIGHT LOCATION, THAT'LL HELP US TIE THAT AREA INTO CLASSROOMS, WHICH WILL HELP US BECOME THAT STATE CERTIFIED CENTER THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. THAT'S A ROUGH COST ESTIMATE. OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR, BUT LOOKING AT THEIR ASKING PRICE AND WHAT WE PROJECT TO BE RENOVATION COSTS, I'M HOPING I'M CLOSE ON THAT ONE. HERE'S WHAT IT TAKES TO GET TO WHERE THAT EACH ONE OF OUR STATIONS HAVE A FIVE MINUTE NFPA RESPONSE TIME STANDARD. IF YOU CURRENTLY LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS RIGHT NOW IN THE NORTH, I'M SORRY, YES. IN THE NORTH END OF THE CITY, WE RUN BETWEEN A FIVE MINUTE AND 15 SECOND TO A SIX MINUTE AND 45 SECOND RESPONSE TIME. ONCE WE GO SOUTH, AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S ALL OFF. THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. SO THE ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS AGAIN, THESE NUMBERS PLEASE ARE TODAY'S NUMBERS AT GUESSTIMATES. I AM NOT AN EXPERT AT. SO DON'T QUOTE ME ON THESE NUMBERS. ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS. THE COST TO REBUILD SOME OF THE STATIONS. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR. THERE IS APPROXIMATELY A HALF $1 MILLION. AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE MORE. IT MIGHT BE LESS. THE NEW FIRE HEADQUARTERS, ADDITIONAL FIRE APPARATUS. AND THESE ARE NUMBERS THAT YOU'VE SEEN COME OUT OF EACH OF THOSE OTHER SLIDES. SO THIS IS THE REAL MEAT AND POTATOES OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UP TO THIS POINT. THE INCREASE IN STAFF. AND THEN WE TURN AROUND AND WE LOOK AT THE TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S COMING UP TO YOU IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR CONSIDERATION OUT OF IMPACT FEES. SO WE'VE GOT THE TRAINING STAFF NOW. WE NEED TO START GETTING THE EQUIPMENT. WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT THROUGH THE IMPACT FEES. TOTAL COST $183 MILLION. THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE ONGOING COST. THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY I GET IT. WE'RE EXPENSIVE AND I'M NOT ASKING FOR IT OVERNIGHT. I DON'T EXPECT TO GET IT OVERNIGHT. BUT IN THE LONG RANGE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. AND THEN WE JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS IT INCREASES OVER THE YEARS, WHAT WE GOT TO DO. SO BASICALLY, I THINK I GOT THAT AS QUICK AS I COULD. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I I'M HERE FOR THE ANSWER. SO, CHIEF, FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SHARE WITH YOU I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THING. AND THEN I WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR COMING UP WITH THIS PROGRAM OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO GROW, HOW WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE AND PROTECT [01:15:01] OUR CITY. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT ARTICULATED AS WELL AS YOU HAVE. SO THIS IS A WELL WRITTEN PRESENTATION AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT GIVES US ALL A VISUAL OF WHERE WE HAVE TO GO. AND JUST JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS A BIG ELEPHANT, BUT WE NEED TO START TAKING A BITE OF IT EACH AND EVERY DAY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. EACH AND EVERY DAY. SO DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? NO. MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'LL ECHO EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID. CHIEF, HOW OLD IS STATION ONE? YOU KNOW, I WANT TO SAY. AND I'M GOING TO HAVE FIVE YEARS. PROBABLY LESS THAN TEN YEARS. IS IT 20, 2012? YEAH, 12, 12 YEARS. SO 12 YEARS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. SO SO ARE YOU SAYING CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF MAINTENANCE MAINTENANCE PLAN TO, YOU KNOW, EVERY 5 TO 7 YEARS TO DO A LITTLE TOUCH UP NEW PAINT? NO, NO, WE PUT IN REQUESTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S HIGHER PRIORITIES ON THE BUDGET ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE. I'M SORRY. SO NO, NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT IS CRITICAL. IF WE'RE BUILDING NEW BUILDING, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP UP WITH THESE BUILDINGS. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE OUGHT TO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TONS OF PRIORITIES, RIGHT? SO WE NEED NEW, NEW TRUCKS, NEW, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING STAFFING AND ALL. BUT BUT I THINK THAT IS CRITICAL. I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT IN YOUR. WELL, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. TRY TO UNDERSTAND ALL THIS BUILDING. THIS IS ALL NEWEST BUILDING. NOT HAVING A PLAN TO ON A 5 TO 7 YEARS. DO KEEP UP WITH THE THE CONDITIONS. SO IT'S AS IF WE WERE NOT DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY. SO. BUT I'M GLAD YOU YOU DID MENTION THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION AS WELL. SO THAT'S SOMETHING MOVING FORWARD WE'RE THINKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. AND OUR GOAL ONCE WE GET A LITTLE BIT MORE STABILIZED, IS TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT A PLAN THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE NEED EACH YEAR FOR APPARATUS AND FACILITIES TO MAINTAIN THEM, AND TO PREPARE FOR THE TEN, 20, 30 YEAR REPLACEMENT. THAT WAY IT COULD BE PUT ASIDE. AND WHEN IT DOES COME THAT TIME, IF I COME IN AND ASK YOU FOR AN ENGINE DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH IS GOING OVER $1 MILLION, THE MY GOAL IS TO HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE TO WHERE YOU JUST MOVE IT OUT OF THERE AND GET MOVING. THE MONEY'S ALREADY SET ASIDE AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT GOAL. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO. CONSIDERING LIKE I SAID, IT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE YOURSELF THE THE RESPONSE TIME IN THE SOUTH END OF THE OF THE OF THE CITY. IT'S PRETTY ALARMING CONSIDERING WHAT'S AT STAKE. RIGHT? PEOPLE'S LIVES. SO I KNOW THIS WEIGH IN ON ME AS A, AS AN ELECTED, YOU KNOW, OFFICIAL AND AND I KNOW COUNCIL'S THE SAME. SO YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE BEEN WE'VE GOT DEFINITELY TO FOCUS ON CONTINUE MAKING THIS A PRIORITY TO PROPERLY EQUIPPED THE STAFF AND FACILITIES TO SERVE THAT, THAT END OF THE CITY. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. FOR WHAT YOU GUYS DO YOU RUN? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. DOCTOR ROBINSON, IF YOU CAN GO TO THE LAST SLIDE. THANK YOU. THE THE FIVE MINUTE STANDARD AND THE 183 MILLION ESTIMATED. THAT'S BASED OFF THE 140,000 POPULATION RIGHT NOW. CORRECT? WELL, NOT NECESSARILY. WHAT IT'S BASED OFF IS STATION LOCATION WHERE WE PROJECT THEM TO BE AS THE POPULATION MOVES. OKAY. SO AS WE GET INCREASED POPULATION INTO THE CITY, WE'RE PROJECTING BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING THROUGH LAND DEVELOPMENT, THAT THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COME IN WITH X AMOUNT OF HOMES IN THEM. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT SHOWED WHAT WE HAVE SO FAR ON ESTIMATED RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, THINGS LIKE THAT, STRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING TO GO IN THAT AREA. SO WE'RE PLANNING TO GET IT TO WHERE THAT THEY KIND OF TIE IN TOGETHER. AND SOME OF THESE LIKE IN THE SOUTH END, IF WE STRATEGICALLY LOCATE WHERE I, WHERE I NEED LIKE SIX OF THESE STATIONS, IF WE STRATEGICALLY LOCATED THREE OF THEM, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GOING TO GREATLY REDUCE IT. AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK IN AND FILL IN THE OTHER THREE DOWN THE ROAD. SO IT'S BASED ON PROJECTED GROWTH, TRYING TO GET TO WHERE WE DO HAVE CURRENT ISSUES IN THE IN THE MALABAR, I'M SORRY, IN THE BABCOCK AND THE PARKWAY AREA THERE BY THE BY THE SCHOOL. WE'RE LOOKING FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD. ALSO ON WHAT LAND DEVELOPMENTS LAND MAY BE IS PLANNING TO COME UP ON THERE. YES, SIR, AND I AGREE. AND I ALSO THINK IT IT ALSO GOES WITH TIMELY GROWTH AS WELL. YES. BECAUSE IF WE JUST APPROVE A LOT, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TIME TO EVEN LOOK INTO USING, LIKE YOU SAID, IMPACT FEES TO UTILIZE TOWARDS THE NEXT STATION AND SO ON. THE ONLY QUESTION I WAS CONCERNED WITH, I WANTED TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT WAS THE VAST AMOUNT OF THE USAGE OF IMPACT FEES I THOUGHT I HEARD POSSIBLY FOR TRAINING OR. YES, WE DON'T HAVE A TRAINING DIVISION. WE JUST GOT THAT TRAINING DIVISION. [01:20:02] SO IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING SHE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. WELL, HE DOESN'T MEAN TRAINING DIVISION. AS FOR PERSONNEL, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE CANNOT USE IMPACT FEES FOR PERSONNEL. HE MEANS THE CAPITAL OF IMPROVEMENTS, THE VEHICLES FOR THE TRAINING FACILITY. THOSE THINGS WE CERTAINLY CAN USE IMPACT FEES FOR. BUT NO, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE IMPACT FEES FOR PERSONNEL. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM AND TO THE NEXT POINT. THANK YOU, CHIEF, I APPRECIATE IT. I ORIGINALLY REMEMBER FIRE STATION SEVEN. WE WERE ESTIMATING APRIL 2024. THEN IT WAS PUSHED TO JULY 2024. NOW I'M HEARING SEPTEMBER 2024. CAN YOU TALK ME THROUGH THE DELAYS? SOME OF THAT IS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHERE WE HAD TO MAKE SOME CHANGES INTERNALLY IN THE BUILDING. AGAIN, CHANGE OF COMMAND COMES CHANGE A VISION. AND YOU KNOW WHY YOU AGREE ON A LOT OF THINGS. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE THERE. SO THAT HELPED. THAT SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT. EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE ARCHITECT HAD EVERYTHING WE NEEDED JUST OVERALL DONE AND THE COST AND THE PROJECTIONS LIKE THAT. THE MEETINGS WE HAD, IT JUST TOOK A LITTLE BIT LONGER. I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT THAT ANYBODY DRAGGED THEIR FEET OR DID ANYTHING WRONG. IT'S JUST THE PROCESS NOW. ALSO, WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS IS THIS STATION IS THE FIRST ONE BEING BUILT IN A LONG TIME. SO IT'S BASICALLY NOW THE MODEL FOR WHAT GOES IN THE FUTURE. SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME OFF OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS IN THE FUTURE. YES, SIR. AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE I'LL RATHER AS US FIGURE IT OUT NOW THAN WE HAVE CHANGE ORDERS AFTER CHANGE ORDERS. SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS. SO BEFORE WE EVEN GET STARTED. YEAH. SO I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. THREE MORE QUESTIONS, SIR. EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT. I'M BIG ON THAT BECAUSE I SEE THE SAME THING YOU SEE IN REGARDS TO POTENTIALLY AN ACTIVE HURRICANE. AND WE'VE SEEN HOW OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS TRYING TO CATCH UP WITH SOME OF THE FLOODING JUST FROM, YOU KNOW, MINOR RAINS. AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE BIG ONE YET. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE A MATTER OF WHEN THAN IF. BUT WITH THAT, HOW ARE YOU WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH BREVARD EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S BEING RUN BY SHERIFF IVEY. OKAY. WE'RE TIGHT. OKAY. THE ASSISTANT CHIEF THAT'S HANDLING EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS CONSTANTLY DOWN THERE OR UP THERE. I'M SORRY WITH THEM FOR MEETINGS, COORDINATING. THEY'RE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH US TO BRING SOME OF THEIR STAFF DOWN FOR SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN. SO. AND THEY'VE COMMENTED ON HOW HOW WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM, I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT APPARENTLY WE'RE ONE OF THE MORE ACTIVE PARTNERS THEY HAVE. SO THAT'S A GOOD THING. NO, THAT'S A GREAT THING. I REMEMBER WHEN I GOT ON COUNCIL 2018 HOW THINGS WERE DIFFERENT IN REGARDS TO RELATIONSHIPS. SO THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR. TWO MORE QUESTIONS. I KNOW I'M, I'M ALL FOR LOOKING INTO AREAS OF PRIVATIZATION. PD CS THE FIRE PREVENTION. DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH WE'VE SAVED MOVING TO THEM FROM SOME ACTUALLY IN AN UPCOMING DOCUMENT. I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD TO WHERE I CAN QUOTE YOU WITH THAT NUMBER, AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. YOU'LL SEE THAT IN, I BELIEVE, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THAT'S FINE. YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER THERE. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I, I'VE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND I JUST RECEIVED ANOTHER EMAIL TODAY FROM THEM. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO MEET WITH THEM BEFORE THAT MEETING, OKAY. BECAUSE THEY'RE NOW SAYING THEY'VE THEY'VE RAN SOME NUMBERS AND THEY'RE THEY'RE GENERATING MORE REVENUE. NOT ONLY ARE THEY GENERATING MORE REVENUE, BUT THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE THE ABILITY NOW TO TURN AROUND AND ADD OR SHARE, I SHOULD SAY AN FTE WITH BUILDING AND MOST LIKELY HIT 100% OF OUR OCCUPANCIES, WHICH IS HUGE. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE HAVE NOT MET YET, BUT THAT'S THE PROPOSAL HE'S BRINGING FORTH. YES, SIR. WITH THAT, INCREASES REVENUE FROM THAT SIDE ALSO. OKAY. LAST QUESTION. THE CHIEF HIT IT HEAVY, AND YOUR MEN AND WOMEN SEE A LOT OF STUFF TOO. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO MENTAL HEALTH. DO YOU HAVE THINGS IN PLACE FOR THEM, OR IS THIS. YES. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, IS WITH THE IN COOPERATION WITH THE UNION. WHAT WE'VE DONE IS USSF THE RESTORES AND THEN WE'VE GOTTEN WITH THE FIREFIGHTER HEALTH AND SAFETY COLLABORATIVE, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM. WE BROUGHT IN SOME CLASSES, WE'RE BRINGING IN MORE CLASSES. WE'RE GETTING WE'RE GETTING THROUGH THE IDENTIFICATION PART FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AFTER A COUPLE. I BELIEVE IT WAS AFTER THE FIRST CLASS. WE HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT DESPERATELY NEEDED HELP. BUT THE SIGNS WE WEREN'T READING THE SIGNS. SO THAT WAS HUGE. SO YES, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT THROUGH THE OPIOID PROJECT TO GET MONEY THERE TO HELP US WITH THAT ALSO. SO THAT IS A MAJOR PROGRAM THAT IS A MAJOR STEP THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH. IT'S JUST THAT'S ANOTHER GETTING ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER. PD IS MUCH FURTHER AHEAD ON THAT THAN WE ARE. BUT WE ARE WE ARE GOING TO CATCH UP WITH THEM. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND WE LAST QUESTION I BELIEVE DON'T DON'T Y'ALL HAVE A BASKETBALL GAME WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WE WILL WIN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COMMANDER BACK [01:25:10] THERE THINK. IT'S ALL ON US. WE'LL WIN THAT ONE. WHAT'S AT STAKE? WHAT'S AT STAKE? WHAT'S THE WHAT? WHAT'S AT STAKE? I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE PLAYING WHAT? YOU PD WASHES YOUR TRUCKS OR YOU WASH THEIR FULL TIME POSITIONS. SO WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE COMPETITION? THE BUDGET, I GUESS. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT. ALL RIGHT, SIR, ALL RIGHT, SIR. WELL THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK, SIR. THANK YOU. I'D JUST LIKE TO TAKE THIS PRESENTATION. AS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON OVER IN FIRE RESCUE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MADE POSSIBLE IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT. THOSE GUYS IN THE WHITE SHIRT BACK THERE. I SEE THE STAFF THAT IS NOT HERE TONIGHT, THE CIVILIAN SUPPORT STAFF. SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'VE DONE. I GREATLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO. AND I HAVE TO SAY, SOMEWHERE BACK THERE, THERE IS. THE UNION HAS ALSO BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN GETTING US THROUGH SOME OF THESE THINGS, LIKE THE MENTAL HEALTH PROGRAM. OUTSTANDING. THANK ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH. WELL, IT TAKES IT. IT'S A TEAMWORK APPROACH. YES, SIR. IT IS. IT'S OUTSTANDING WORK. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] MR. AND MRS. WEISER. KATHY AND FRED. GOOD EVENING KATHY AND FRED WEISER. SORTERS. ROAD 32909. OUR TOPIC THIS EVENING IS THE AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT THE REPUBLIC RECYCLE TRUCKS ARE LEAVING ON OUR ROAD, ESPECIALLY GLASS. SO I WANT TO SHOW YOU, JUST FROM JULY 3RD, THIS IS WHAT WAS COLLECTED IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. THAT IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GLASS THAT WAS DUMPED JUST IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. FOLLOWING THIS, WE SENT A COMMUNICATION TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE. WE WERE REPLIED TO PROMPTLY AND TOLD THAT OUR CONCERNS WOULD BE SHARED WITH YOUR REPUBLIC LIAISON. IN THAT COMMUNICATION, I SAID THAT BASED ON THIS BEING A PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE ISSUE, AND I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS, I ASK THAT THE REPUBLIC TRUCKS STOP RUNNING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS UNTIL THEY CAN SECURE THEIR VEHICLES. THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY DROPPING SO MUCH DEBRIS WHEN THEY COME THROUGH. SO FAST FORWARD TO YESTERDAY. THE TRUCKS ROLL THROUGH AGAIN. AND AND THIS IS YESTERDAY'S BOUNTY, SO IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT'S HAPPENING. THE GLASS IS EMBEDDED IN OUR VEHICLE TIRES, SO WE'RE TRACKING IT THROUGH THE GARAGE AND INTO THE HOUSE. A QUICK LOOK ON THE NEXT DOOR APP. AND IT'S NOT JUST ISOLATED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO MY COMMENTS ARE TURNED OFF IN THE NEXT DOOR APP TO JUST SOUTHEAST PALM BAY AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE EXPERIENCING THAT AS WELL. SO YES, WE'RE SWEEPING THE AREA IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE, BUT WE CAN NO LONGER WALK OUR DOG ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BLOCK BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID THAT HER PAWS ARE GOING TO BE CUT. OTHER FOLKS AREN'T GOING OUT, AND NOR SHOULD THEY HAVE TO GO OUT AND SWEEP THEIR STREET EVERY WEDNESDAY. SO WE'RE AWARE THAT GLASS IS NOT RECYCLABLE IN OUR MARKET, RIGHT? BUT YOU'RE ALSO AWARE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE PLACING ALL MANNER OF MATERIAL INTO OUR RECYCLE BINS, INCLUDING GLASS, WOOD HANGERS, PIZZA BOXES PLASTIC BAGS. SO TILE. YES. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A VERY CREATIVE NEIGHBOR THAT'S FILLING HIS RECYCLE BIN WITH TILE. HEY WHO KNEW? BUT SO YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED IT AS THE RECYCLED TRUCK? ABSOLUTELY. IT IS THE RECYCLED TRUCK THAT'S DUMPING THAT. YES IT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M HEARING IMPAIRED. SO HE'S MY IS THE RECYCLED TRUCK THAT OKAY? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WHERE WERE THEY? DUMP. GET ON. GET ON THE MIC, SIR. WHERE WERE THERE? THEY PICK UP THE BINS. WHEN THEY LEAVE, THERE'S USUALLY A SPOT OF FLUIDS THAT HAVE COME OUT THAT SMELLS REALLY NICE. AND THEN ALONG WITH THIS DEBRIS. DO YOU THINK IT'S JUST OVERFLOW, LIKE THEY'RE AT CAPACITY AND THEY CONTINUE TO PICK UP? NO. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS CAUSING IT? MY OPINION IS WELL ASSURED SINCE THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY GLASS IN THE TRUCK TO BEGIN WITH. THEY PROBABLY HAVE PLACES FOR WATER TO COME OUT, SO THESE TRUCKS MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY SEALED. I DON'T KNOW. THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS. UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. SO I, I GUESS I JUST WANT TO REPEAT OUR REQUEST. UNTIL REPUBLIC CAN PLUG THE HOLES IN THEIR TRUCKS, IF WE CAN PLEASE STOP THE RECYCLE TRUCKS FROM COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE [01:30:05] THIS IS CRAZY. THIS IS BEING TRACKED INTO OUR HOUSE. I CAME AND WALKED MY DOG ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BLOCK ANYMORE. NO, I'M HEARING YOU, MA'AM, AND I. I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER IS DEFINITELY GOING TO REACH OUT. AND I'LL ALSO REACH OUT TO THE OPERATIONS MANAGER OF REPUBLIC. MY, MY, I BELIEVE IT COULD BE JUST ONE CERTAIN TRUCK OR TWO CERTAIN TRUCKS, BECAUSE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I HAVEN'T HAD THAT EXPERIENCE. SO I'M GOING TO QUICKLY FIND OUT WHAT WHAT IS IT? COULD IT BE THAT JUST LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S ONE OF THE TRUCKS OR TWO OF THE TRUCKS ARE NOT SEALED PROPERLY, BUT THEY HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THAT. AND WE HAVE YOUR WE HAVE YOUR ADDRESS. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. SO MA'AM, IF WE COULD GET BACK TO HER ONCE WE REACH OUT I'D LIKE TO, TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, MA'AM. THAT'S A THAT'S A HUGE VISUAL YOU JUST BOUGHT. SHOULD WE KEEP THAT AS EVIDENCE? SAY AGAIN? SHOULD WE KEEP IT AS EVIDENCE OR. NO. I'M NOT SURE IF WE PUT IT IN, HAVE PD PUT IT IN THEIR EVIDENCE LOCKER AND ALL THAT, BUT. ALL RIGHT. BUT THANK YOU, MA'AM. THAT VISUAL SPOKE SPOKE A THOUSAND WORDS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. I TRIED TO TAKE PICTURES, BUT THAT BEING THE STREETS, THE AGGREGATE PICTURES JUST DIDN'T WORK. YEAH, NO, THAT. THAT'S A GREAT VISUAL, SIR. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT VISUAL. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. BATON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT THREE ITEMS TO ADDRESS. THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE CITY'S INTERACTIVE MAP THAT THE BREVARD COUNTY AERIAL IS NOT WORKING ON THE CITY MAP. AND A GREAT YOU JUST WANT TO CHECK IN MAP SCALE. BUT I LIKE TO DO ACTUAL RESEARCH AND LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHEN THE CITY HAS WORKSHOPS LIKE WE HAD JUST THE OTHER NIGHT, I WASN'T ABLE TO ATTEND THIS ONE, BUT IT SEEMS STRANGE THAT YOU'RE HAVING A WORKSHOP AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED. BUT THERE'S NO INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC ON A WORKSHOP UNLESS IT WAS PERTAINED TO TO THE SPECIFIC TOPIC. BUT SOMETIMES THE ADDRESS TOPIC ISN'T ALWAYS WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME WAY WE'RE ON WORKSHOPS. THERE WOULD BE A PUBLIC LIKE THIS ONE WHERE THERE'D BE A PUBLIC COMMENT, RESPONSE TIME THAT YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS SOMETHING. IT'S NOT THERE IN THE IN THE WORKSHOPS. AND ITEM NUMBER THREE WAS I HIT ON THIS ONE LAST MEETING. THERE WAS A DEVELOPMENT THAT CAME IN ON GAYNOR ROAD, RIGHT. AND I GOT COPIES OF THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT PLANS. IT'S A 30 ACRE DEVELOPMENT. THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN SAID NO TREES GREATER THAN 18IN. NO MITIGATION REQUIRED. I CONTACTED THE CITY AFTER I SAW SOME STUFF THERE IN THE CITY, SENT OUT AN INSPECTOR AND SO WE WALKED JUST THE FIRST THREE TREES WE COULD SEE ON THE PROPERTY. FOUR FOOT RADIUS, SIX FOOT RADIUS, AND 15.5FT RADIUS AROUND THESE OAK TREES. YET THE PAPERWORK ON THEIR PERMITTING FROM THE CITY SAYS NO TREES GREATER THAN 18, NO MITIGATION REQUIRED. I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT UPSET WITH THAT. AND THE REASON IT ALSO UPSETS ME IS THE FACT THAT IT WAS RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND. THE ONE THING I'M TRYING TO PROTECT THAT NOW THESE DEVELOPERS COME IN, STRIP IT WITHOUT THE PROTECTION OF THESE MAJOR TREES, WHICH IS AGGRAVATING. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THAT DEVELOPER ALSO HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE THAT WE HAD. THE REZONING FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY ALSO HAPPENS TO BE GODADDY DEVELOPMENT THAT FELL THROUGH. BUT YOU CHANGED THE ZONING. SO I CAN'T EVEN PROTECT THOSE TREES THAT ARE THERE. NOW, THAT BEING SAID, MAY YOU ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG MEETING, I THINK. YEAH. WELCOME BACK TO THE NEW MONTH. WELL, WELL, THANK AN AGREEMENT WITH YOU REGARDING JOE DADDY AS WELL, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, BUT, MADAM, MADAM SHERMAN HOW CAN WE LOOK INTO THOSE, THOSE TREES AND AND THOSE VIOLATIONS IF IF THEY REALLY ARE LARGER IN SIZE THAN WHAT'S WRITTEN. IF YOU'RE ASKING WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE FOR THE DEVELOPER, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH STAFF TO SEE WHERE THEY LEFT THAT OFF, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE OUT OF LINE WHEN THEY STARTED CLEARING. CLEARLY THEY VIOLATED THE ORDINANCE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S AT. SO I CAN FOLLOW UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF. NEXT SPEAKER, MISS DALPRA. [01:35:01] PAT ALPER FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST. I'M NOT GOING TO COMPLAIN TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT PASTOR CANNON SAID. HE ACTUALLY TOOK A LOT OF WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. SO I WANT TO JUST SAY THE JULY 4TH CELEBRATION LAST FRIDAY WAS AWESOME, AND I THINK WE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME, BUT I WANT CITIZENS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT HOLIDAY. IT IS THE GREATEST EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR NATION, THE SIGNING OF THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE FOUNDERS. BASICALLY, IT WAS A LIST OF GRIEVANCES AGAINST THE KING OF ENGLAND. AND SO THEY WANTED TO BE FREE FROM THE TYRANNY OF GREAT BRITAIN. SO THEY KNEW THE RISKS. THEY SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES, FORTUNES AND SACRED HONOR. AND WE OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEN AND WOMEN SINCE THEN SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY. AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM AND LIBERTY. THE FOUNDERS WERE MEN OF ACTION WHO SECURED RELIGIOUS LIBERTY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. THEY ALSO SECURED FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF PRESS, FREEDOM OF PEACEABLY ASSEMBLY, AND TO PETITION OUR GOVERNMENT. SO WE MUST NOT SURRENDER THOSE THINGS. THOMAS JEFFERSON SENT A LETTER CONCERNING THIS DAY. IT SAID, LET THE ANNUAL RETURN OF THIS DAY, JULY 4TH, FOREVER REFRESH OUR RECOLLECTION, RECOLLECTIONS OF THESE RIGHTS AND AN UNDIMINISHED DEVOTION TO THEM. IF WE ARE TO GUARD AGAINST IGNORANCE OR REMAIN FREE, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERY AMERICAN TO BE INFORMED. THIS WAS A LETTER TO WASHINGTON, DC IN 1826. I AM A VOLUNTEER OF CITIZENS DEFENDING FREEDOM, SO WE ARE REALLY ENCOURAGING CITIZENS TO GET INVOLVED, TO BE ENGAGED, TO STAND UP, SPEAK UP AND VOTE. I TELL EVERYBODY YOU NEED TO GET TO THE CITY COUNCIL IF YOU HAVE A GRIEVANCE. SO I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE COMPLAINING OR BILL BATON. WE HAVE OUR THIRD MEET AND GREET THIS SATURDAY FROM 1 TO 5 AT VICTORY IN CHRIST JESUS MINISTRIES, 2865 JUPITER ROAD SOUTHEAST. WE ARE ALSO ENCOURAGING ALL CANDIDATES TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO SPEAK SOMEWHERE, AND SO WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO INFORM AS MANY CANDIDATES AS POSSIBLE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO READ A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. RONALD REAGAN ACTUALLY SAID THAT IF WE DO NOT TEACH OUR HISTORY, IF WE FORGET WHAT WE DID, WE WON'T KNOW WHO WE ARE. I'M WARNING OF AN ERADICATION OF THE AMERICAN MEMORY THAT COULD RESULT ULTIMATELY IN THE EROSION OF THE AMERICAN SPIRIT. HE ALSO SAID, IF WE EVER FORGET THAT WE ARE ONE NATION UNDER GOD, THEN WE WILL BE A NATION GONE UNDER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER. MISS CONNOLLY. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. I'M SUSAN CONNOLLY AT 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST. I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY INVITE THE COUNCIL AND THE BUSINESS MANAGER TO ATTEND THE GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BREVARD PROSPERITY INITIATIVE. HERE IS THE INVITATION. I JUST HAND IT TO ME. I'LL PASS IT OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IT'S TWO SIDED MAIER TWO. THERE'S INFORMATION ON THE BACK, BUT BASICALLY I SEE THE BREVARD PROSPERITY INITIATIVE AS BEING AN ANSWER TO CHANGING THE DIVIDED AND CHAOTIC WORLD WE LIVE IN, INTO COMMUNITIES BUILT ON PRINCIPLES. PRINCIPLES THAT START WITH LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. PRINCIPLES OF HELPING ONE HELPS US ALL. PROSPERITY CAN ONLY OCCUR WHEN ALL OF US ARE PROSPEROUS. THIS IS A BUSINESS LED PHILANTHROPY THAT REPLACES GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES AND BREAKS THE CYCLE OF GENERATIONAL POVERTY, OF FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE BY WITH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, WITH COLLABORATIVE FORM SOLUTIONS TO ERADICATING POVERTY AT THE ROOT CAUSE. I THINK THIS PROGRAM INITIATIVE HAS SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO CONTRIBUTE, AND IT HAS ALSO SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE TO RECEIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S ABOUT COMING TOGETHER, BEING TOGETHER AND LIVING WELL. [01:40:04] THANK YOU. I HOPE YOU ALL WILL BE THERE. AND MISS SHERMAN, THERE IS ALSO A COPY TOO, FOR YOU TO PASS OUT APPROPRIATELY TO THE STAFF AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU MA'AM, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER. MR. STICE. GOOD EVENING, ROBERT STICE 1796 WOODBRIDGE DRIVE, SOUTHEAST. I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU A MOMENT WHAT RESIDENTS ARE SAYING, NOT ONLY IN MY HOA, BUT AT THE AMERICAN LEGION WHEN I MEET PEOPLE AT BARNES AND NOBLE. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION AND THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. THE TIRED OF THE CROWDING AT FOOD STORES, HEALTH CARE, SHOPPING AND WHAT HAVE YOU. LIKE I SAID, ONE OF MY RESIDENTS SAID, YOU GO TO PUBLIX AND EVERY DAY SEEMS LIKE THANKSGIVING. I THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS WE ARE IGNORING THE STRUCTURE. THE LACK OF ROADS AND THINKING OF ALL THE IMPACT FEES, IF IMPACT FEES ARE GOING TO BE THE ANSWER TO ALL OUR PROBLEMS. I'M GOING TO DIGRESS A LITTLE BIT. WHEN THE GREATEST GENERATION CAME OUT OF WORLD WAR TWO, YOU HAD SOMETHING CALLED LEVITTOWN THAT BUILT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOUSES IN LONG ISLAND. SAME SITUATION IN CALIFORNIA. WHEN THE VETERANS CAME BACK, THEY HAD THESE HOUSES WERE RIGHT NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER TWO AND THREE BEDROOM HOMES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. THE ROADS WERE PUT IN FIRST. NOW, I UNDERSTAND YOU GOT A LOT OF DRAGONS TO SLAY WITH, WITH FIRE AND POLICE AND WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT IF I REMEMBER 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO WITH THE OTHER, CHIEF SAID, AND I MADE NOTES IN FRONT OF ME, THAT WHEN A HOUSE STARTS TO STARTS A FIRE, IF THERE'S A FIRE STARTING IN A HOUSE, I THINK IT WAS EIGHT MINUTES BEFORE THAT HOUSE IS CONSUMED. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 20 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME, ARE YOU PUTTING YOUR RESIDENTS IN DANGER? A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE. SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BUT WE KEEP BUILDING AND BUILDING AND BUILDING WITHOUT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU TOLD ME THAT IT TAKES YOU 20 MINUTES, 23 MINUTES TO GET FROM ON BABCOCK TO GET TO THE LIGHT ON MALABAR ROAD. I MEAN, IT'S GETTING CRAZIER AND CRAZIER. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE AND I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR YOU. I'M SIMPLY SHARING WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE SAYING. AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS, WE'RE TIRED OF THIS. WE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS ANYMORE. YOU'RE DIMINISHING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, FROM WHAT I'M SEEING AND WHAT I'VE SEEN IN MY LIFE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO SOLVE BY IMPACT FEES. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. SO THERE'S GOT TO BE A MIDDLE GROUND SOMEWHERE. AND I WOULD HUMBLY REQUEST THAT YOU GET SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS INVOLVED AND DO SOME WHAT WE USED TO CALL BRAINSTORMING AND SEE THE HALF WAY MARK. I SEE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU DISCUSSING THAT? YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE GIVE YOU TO KEEP YOU GOING? BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GO OUT THERE AND PICK MONEY OFF THE DOLLAR TREES OUT THERE. YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN. SO PLEASE CONSIDER WHAT YOUR RESIDENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT AS YOU HAVE THIS DRAGON TO SLAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DEPUTY MAYOR. NEXT SPEAKER. MAYOR, THIS IS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU SIR. SO NOW WE'RE ON CONSENT. [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:] ANY ITEMS TO BE PULLED, DEPUTY MAYOR? YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FOLLOWING EIGHT, 16, AND 18. EIGHT. 16. 18. 16. 18. ANY OTHER ITEMS YOU'D LIKE TO PULL? I'D LIKE TO PULL 14 AND 14. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO. SECOND. SECOND. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS BEFORE WE BEGIN PUBLIC HEARINGS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. SO WE JUST PASSED CONSENT. MADAM SMITH. AND WE ARE. ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 28, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET BY [01:45:04] APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF FIVE PAGES, AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN. RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING, AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, MADAM SMITH. [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 26, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM GU. GENERAL USE HOLDING DISTRICT TO CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO COGAN DRIVE AND THE VICINITY NORTH OF MELBOURNE? TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL 42 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. IS THIS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE. IT WOULD BE OKAY IF I PROVIDED AN EXHIBIT TO COUNSEL. SURE. THANK YOU. I'LL TAKE IT. WHAT DO YOU HAVE THERE IS WHAT WE LOOKED AT LAST MEETING AT FIRST READING AND JUST A QUICK REFRESHER. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS TONIGHT ON THE AGENDA. THE FIRST IS SECOND READING. FOR THE REZONING. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT. LAST TIME WE DOVE REALLY DEEP INTO THIS PROJECT, SPENT A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH ITS BENEFITS AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS, SO WE WON'T DIVE BACK THROUGH THAT DEEP. I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW JASON LINSCOTT, WHO WAS HERE LAST TIME, WHO GAVE YOU GUYS A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION. UNFORTUNATELY, HE'S ON A FAMILY VACATION AND COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT. BUT DANIEL GINSBERG IS HERE TONIGHT, AND HE WAS ALSO HERE LAST MEETING. AND THEY REPRESENT THE APPLICANT, THE FAMILY BUSINESS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT'S PROPOSING THIS PROJECT. SO JUST TO REITERATE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE ZONING. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. THE RIGHT NOW, IT HAS A GENERAL USE HOLDING. YOU MET LAST MEETING THE MILITARY FAMILY THAT'S OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR TWO DECADES. BECAUSE OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND OTHER ITEMS, IN 20 YEARS, THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND A BUYER, ANOTHER FAMILY BUSINESS, AND THEY ONLY HAD ONE OTHER BITE AT THE APPLE. AND IT WAS FOR A DAYCARE. AND BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THE DAYCARE GENERATED, STAFF WASN'T WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT PROJECT. SO THIS IS THE FIRST PROJECT THAT'S EVER BEEN ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE 20 PLUS YEARS THAT THIS FAMILY HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY. SO THEY'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY AND THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A FAMILY RUN BUSINESS IF APPROVED. JUST A COUPLE OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROJECT. YOU CAN SEE THE ARCHITECTURE OF IT. IT IS A BASICALLY LIKE A CLASS A OFFICE TYPE BUILDING. IT'S HALF THE ALLOWABLE HEIGHT. WE'RE ALLOWED 70FT IN THIS ZONING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, AND WE'RE ONLY AT 35FT IN HEIGHT, SO IT DOES FIT IN THE AREA. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO SOME MONSTER LARGE BUILDING. OUR SETBACKS ARE 3 TO 8 TIMES THE MINIMUM SETBACKS. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE UP ON TOP OF THE ROAD. WE PUSHED IT BACK TO THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE. BECAUSE OF THE USE IT DOESN'T NEED A LOT OF PAVING, DOESN'T CREATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. IT'S A VERY LOW TRAFFIC GENERATING SITE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TREE PRESERVATION WE'RE ABLE TO DO. AND SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND KIND OF LET IT FIT IN THERE BETTER. IT'S BEEN VACANT AS AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN GREAT DETAIL FOR ALL THESE DECADES, AND IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE THAT COMMERCIAL TAX BASE. AND IT'S BASICALLY AN INFILL PROJECT. EVERYTHING AROUND IT, FOR THE MOST PART, HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. SO IT'S A IT'S A GOOD, IN OUR OPINION, INFILL PROJECT THAT IS REALLY PROVIDING A COMMUNITY NEED. THIS GROUP HAS SPENT OVER A YEAR WORKING WITH US IN THE CITY TO GET TO THIS POINT. THEY'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE OTHER EXISTING FACILITIES THAT ARE NEARBY IN BAYSIDE LAKES, OUTSIDE BAYSIDE LAKES, AND THEY'RE ALL EITHER AT OR NEAR CAPACITY. AND SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A COMMUNITY NEED FOR THIS. AND THE WAY THAT THEY LOOK AT IT IS BASICALLY AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, AN EXTENSION OF SOMEONE'S HOUSEHOLD, SOMEPLACE WHERE THEY KEEP THEIR OWN GOODS, ESPECIALLY THINGS LIKE CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS, FAMILY MEMORIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND RIGHT NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS PROJECT ABOUT A $10 MILLION INVESTMENT. [01:50:02] SO THEY DON'T LOOK AT THAT LIGHTLY. THEY DON'T FLIP THEIR PROJECTS, THEY KEEP THEM. THEY HAVE ABOUT 40 OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES IN THEIR PORTFOLIO, AND THEY ARE MAINTAINED IMMACULATELY. WELL, THEY'RE VERY LOW CRIME. AND AGAIN, THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE IS GENERATED BY IT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, YOU WERE CONCERNED THAT YOU WEREN'T NOTIFIED. WE DID CHECK YOU DO FALL OUTSIDE THE 500 FOOT RADIUS. SO THAT'S WHY YOU DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED? DID REALIZE THAT. OKAY. SO VERY GOOD. JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE AWARE THAT THAT WAS THE CASE. THIS PROJECT IS ALSO GOING TO PROVIDE SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. THIS AREA HAS HAD SOME DRAINAGE PROBLEMS IN THE PAST. HAVING LOOKED AT THE SURVEY AND WALKED IT MYSELF, I SEE WHY. SO OUR PROJECT IS GOING TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THAT DRAINAGE THROUGH THAT AREA TOO. SO THAT SHOULD BE A BENEFIT AS WELL. WE HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. WE HAD NOBODY THAT ATTENDED, WHICH TYPICALLY, IN OUR EXPERIENCE JUST MEANS THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY OPPOSITION. WE DID REACH OUT TO THE MASTER BOARD PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR BAYSIDE LAKES. AND THEN WE DID HAVE UNANIMOUS PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDATION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE SIX CRITERIA WE HAVE TO MEET FOR A REZONING. YOU SEE THE STAFF REPORT, WE MEET ALL OF THAT CRITERIA. SO THAT BEING SAID, YOU GUYS WERE SUPPORTIVE IN THE FIRST VOTE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW EVIDENCE AT ALL FOR THIS FOR THIS SECOND VOTE. SO BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND. YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR, ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO. NO QUESTIONS. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. NO QUESTIONS. ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? DEPUTY MAYOR? THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR.. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS PACKET, I NOTICED A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT GENERATED A SPARK OF INTEREST. FIRST, THIS THESE 30 ACRES. OVER THE TIME THAT THEY'VE OWNED THIS PROPERTY, THEY PAY $7,000 A YEAR FOR THIS VACANT LAND IN TAXES. RIGHT? THAT'S A THAT'S AN INCOME, AT LEAST TO THE CITY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT BUDGET. BUT THE OTHER STORAGE UNITS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, I BROUGHT SOME THEM UP. THEY ARE PAYING THEY ARE PAYING TAXES OF $75,000 A YEAR IN TAXES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AMOUNT OF REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY FOR VACANT LAND, FOR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE THIS, FOR TAX REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. AND I FIND THAT AS A GOOD THING, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE MINIMAL TRAFFIC FROM THIS BUSINESS FOR LARGE INCREASE IN TAX REVENUE COMING TO THE CITY. THE PART THAT I FOUND STRANGE ABOUT THAT WHEN I STARTED LOOKING AT OTHER SITES AROUND THERE, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT IN FAIRWAY CROSSINGS, THEY HAPPEN TO OWN 7.8 ACRES OF VACANT LAND. AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR TAX, WHAT THEY PAY IN TAXES FOR SINCE 19, I'M SORRY, FROM 2008 FOR 7.6 ACRES, NOT A MEASLY THREE ACRES. GOOSE EGG OF $0. THAT'S WHAT THEY PAY IN FROM BAYSIDE LAKES DEVELOPMENTS OUT FROM FAIRWAY CROSSINGS HOLDINGS WITHIN BAYSIDE LAKES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE POOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HAVING TO PAY $7,000. YET YOUR BIG DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING IN AND ASKING FOR ZONE CHANGING AND EVERYTHING ELSE ARE PAYING $0 FOR VACANT LAND ACROSS THE STREET. I WOULD SAY MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT WHY OUR BUDGET IS FAILING, OR WHY WE HAVE TO WORRY SO MUCH ABOUT MEETING BUDGET WHEN THE BIG DOLLAR FUNDS ARE ZERO, AND THE POOR TAXPAYERS, LIKE MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR ON HIS FIVE ACRES VACANT COW PASTURE, HAS TO PAY $6,000 A YEAR. YET DEVELOPMENTS FROM FAIRWAY CROSSINGS AND BAYSIDE LAKES PAYS ZERO. SO I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPER BUILDING A WAREHOUSE. BUILDING A PLACE WHERE HE CAN HAVE SOME STORAGE UNITS WITH MINIMAL TRAFFIC TO THE ON IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC, BUT YET GENERATES A BIG TAX REVENUE COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND. ANY ANYTHING ELSE? WELL, THE ONLY OTHER THING IS MR. BATTEN HAS A POINT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M GOOD WITH THIS PROJECT. I WANT TO KEEP IT ON HERE. I LIKE WHAT I SEE, AND I'M EXCITED, AND I KNOW THE APPLICANTS NOT HERE, BUT I DEFINITELY FEEL FOR HER. [01:55:04] AND SO I'M EXCITED FOR HER TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF GET THIS WEIGHT OFF HER SHOULDERS AND MOVE FORWARD. SO THAT'S ALL, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I WILL SAY AND I'LL LET YOU SPEAK. DEPUTY MAYOR CAN WE LOOK INTO THAT THAT THAT RATIO? I'M NOT SURE. I LOOK BRIEFLY. I KNOW IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELEVANT, BUT THERE THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED IN LAND AND BAYSIDE LAKES, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S ONE OF THEM. COPY THAT. THANK YOU. MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN THE RECORD. SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH I'M AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT, SO I MADE I MADE A POINT LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT FROM A, YOU KNOW, FROM A DISTANCE STANDPOINT, IT LOOKS TO ME, YOU KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMUNITY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. SO LOOKING IN THAT STANDPOINT, I THINK I SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED SOME SORT OF NOTICE. BUT I GET IT WHEN YOU DRAW THE LINE. YEAH I DO REALIZE I'M RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THAT LINE, WHICH IS FINE. I THINK THE BIGGEST CONCERN TO ME, HAVING LIVED IN THAT COMMUNITY, NOT SO MUCH. I SEE THE VALUE OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT FOR CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES. THE CORRIDOR IT'S IN, IT'S A NARROW CORRIDOR AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. MAJOR, MAJOR ANY, MAJOR COMMERCIAL, BIG HIGH SCALE COMMERCIAL WOULD BE SOMEWHAT PROBLEMATIC. I GET THE BENEFIT. I ALSO CONSCIENCE OF HOW WE GROWING IN THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY, THE LACK OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES. WHAT I'VE SEEN THIS PROPERTY ALWAYS SEEN THAT PROPERTY AS AN EXTENSION OF THE GOVERNMENT COMPLEX THAT'S ALREADY IN EXISTENCE, MAYBE A COURTHOUSE OR SOME SORT, BECAUSE THE CLOSEST THING IS IN VIERA. SO ALL RESIDENT HAS TO DRIVE 45 MINUTES TO TO VIERA TO GET A CERTAIN LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT SERVICES WHERE AS IF WE HAVE AN EXISTING GOVERNMENT COMPLEX. I'VE SEEN I'VE ALWAYS SEEN THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AS A COMPLIMENT, AS AN ADDITION TO EXTENSION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, LET'S FACE IT, WILL REACH OVER 200,000 PEOPLE WITHIN THE NEXT 10 TO 15 YEARS. SO I'VE SEEN THIS THE LACK OF SERVICE IN THE SOUTH END OF THE COUNTY. I'VE ALWAYS SEEN THAT. I GUESS THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. IT'S MORE OF A, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THAT PROPERTY. NOT THAT I'M AGAINST IT. I WILL STILL STAND ON MY VOTE. BUT BEST OF LUCK WITH THE OWNER. THE DEVELOPER. YOU KNOW, I WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M FINE, BUT THIS IS WHERE I STAND ON THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD. MR. BATTEN MENTIONED SOMETHING. I'D LIKE TO GET SOME CLARITY ON MR. BATTEN STATE. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WORD MATTERS. SAYING THAT ALL BUDGET IS FALLING INTO THE STATEMENT. WOULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IF THAT HAVE ANY RELEVANCE? BECAUSE CLEARLY OUR BUDGET WE DON'T HAVE A FALLING BUDGET. BUT I JUST WANT TO CITY MANAGER TO PROBABLY ADDRESS THAT. CERTAINLY, I I'M NOT HAVING FULL CONTEXT FOR WHAT MR. BATTEN WAS REFERENCING. I WOULD SAY THAT THE THE CITY'S ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT THAT'S ABOUT TO COME OUT, ACTUALLY, YOU'LL SEE A PRESENTATION IN SEPTEMBER SHOWS THAT THE CITY IS FINANCIALLY HEALTHY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS OR DEFICIENCIES IN OUR AUDIT REPORT, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR YEARS PRIOR YEAR REPORTS AS WELL. ALSO BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, ACTIONS TAKEN FROM AN ENTIRE TEAM OF PEOPLE WORKING ON THINGS, WE HAVE AN UNDESIGNATED UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND FUND BALANCE, CURRENTLY OF JUST OVER $30 MILLION. SO HAPPY TO ELABORATE FURTHER, BUT WE'RE, AS YOU HEARD AT TUESDAY NIGHT'S WORKSHOP, WE CONTINUE TO MEET OUR EXPENSES WITH REVENUES, AND WE DO NOT USE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE TO BALANCE THE THE BUDGET EACH YEAR. WE DO USE IT FOR FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR, BUT NOT TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN IMPORTANT SIGN OF THE HEALTH OF OUR BUDGET. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. AND THANK MADAM, MADAM SHERMAN, SINCE YOU'RE ON THAT TOPIC PERHAPS COMPARE WHERE WE WERE BEFORE AS FAR AS SAVINGS AND HOW WE'VE PROGRESSED IN THAT REGARD. YEAH, THERE WAS CERTAINLY A TIME WHEN WE WERE DEFINITELY UNDER DOUBLE DIGITS IN TERMS OF OUR UNDESIGNATED. WE'VE HAD THOSE MOMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR, OUR PROCESSES OR POLICIES IS IT'S DIFFICULT TO BUDGET, AS YOU KNOW, FOR THE CAPITAL, THE, THE SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL NEEDS. SO WE WAIT UNTIL OUR FUND BALANCE KIND OF BUILDS BACK UP, ESPECIALLY WITH SOME SAVINGS FROM VACANCIES OR EXPENDITURES WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE IN A FISCAL YEAR. AND THEN WE GO BACK. SO WE SORT OF DO IT ON THE BACK END. THAT'S JUST HOW WE'VE HAD TO STRUCTURE IT IN THE 3% CAP ENVIRONMENT. BUT IT'S DEFINITELY THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR RECENT BONDS, LIKE LAST YEAR'S DRAW. WE GET THAT COMMENT BACK FROM THE RATING AGENCIES. THEY ALWAYS LOOK AT OUR FUND BALANCE, AND THAT'S A POSITIVE FOR US WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT TO THE MARKET TO LOOK FOR FOR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO IT'S BEEN A GOOD PROGRESS FOR US. [02:00:02] THANK YOU, MA'AM. AND SINCE I SECOND THE MOTION DEPUTY MAYOR, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU MENTIONED THE COURTHOUSE, AND THAT TOOK ME BACK TO WHEN I WORKED FOR BREVARD COUNTY. AND IN THAT THERE WAS A RUMOR OF GETTING A COURTHOUSE VOTE. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE THE TAX PLAYERS LOCATION THERE. THE FUNDING WOULD HAVE BEEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BREVARD COUNTY COURTHOUSE. BUT THAT WAS NEVER IT WAS JUST THIS COULD BE. BUT I DON'T SEE THREE ACRES BUILDING A COURTHOUSE THERE. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. LET THE RECORD SHOW PASSES 2 TO 1. ITEM NUMBER TWO. THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL ESTATE, HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. COUNCIL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING IS AS FOLLOWS. FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR PERSON. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS. THE HEARING WILL BE THEN CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. COUNSEL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC. AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION AND BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 19, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, GRANTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY AND CC COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO COGAN DRIVE AND THE VICINITY NORTH OF MELBOURNE? TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT CANAL 42 AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, GRANTING THE USE AS A CONDITIONAL USE. PROVIDING FOR A COMMENCEMENT PERIOD. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER, FOR THE PROJECT. HIS ADDRESS IS 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD. THIS IS, OF COURSE, FOR THE ITEM THAT WE JUST WERE DISCUSSING, THAT WE HAD A SECOND VOTE ON THAT APPROVED THE ZONING. SO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THE SELF STORAGE ON THE PROJECT ON THE PROPERTY. EXCUSE ME. WE'VE DISCUSSED THE POSITIVES OF THE PROJECT IN GREAT DETAIL NOW THROUGH TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS. I THINK MR. BATTEN SAID IT BEST AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT OTHER POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL USES, RESTAURANTS THAT ARE FAILING BREVARD COUNTY USED TO OWN THIS LAND. THEY DECIDE TO SELL IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SEE A NEED FOR EXPANDING FACILITIES AT THAT TIME. AND OFFICE USES, MEDICAL USES, THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S A VERY UNIQUE CORRIDOR WHERE THE LANES OF TRAFFIC NARROW DOWN. THERE'S A RIGHT TURN LANE THAT GOES INTO THE BREVARD COUNTY FACILITY. SO ANY OTHER TYPE OF COMMERCIAL USE, THAT'S A BIG TRAFFIC GENERATOR, IN OUR OPINION. AND THE ONE OTHER BITE THAT THIS FAMILY PREVIOUSLY HAD FOR A DAYCARE, AGAIN, STAFF COULDN'T SUPPORT IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC. SO WE DO FEEL LIKE IT IS THE RIGHT USE IN THIS LOCATION. AND THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. THE ITEMS WE MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY TO THE TREE PRESERVATION, THE SETBACKS, THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE BUILDING, THE REDUCTION THAT'S AN ALLOWABLE HEIGHT THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR OR TO USE CREATING A TAX BASE WHERE THERE IS NONE. NOW THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE ARCHITECTURE, AGAIN, IT'S A COMMUNITY AMENITY. IT'S BASICALLY AN EXTENSION OF THE FAMILY HOMES. WE DO SEE IT AS A GOOD INFILL PROJECT FOR THAT AREA. BEHIND US TO THE WEST IS ALL PRESERVED WETLANDS, SO WE'RE NOT IMPACTING ANY NEIGHBORS AT ALL. IT'S A VERY LOW CRIME USE. IT IS A FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF BEING SUCCESSFUL THAT REALLY DID THEIR HOMEWORK. THEY SPENT A LOT OF TIME BEFORE WE CAME BEFORE YOU WITH THIS REQUEST. SO ONCE AGAIN, WE DO HAVE THE EIGHT CRITERIA FOR A CONDITIONAL USE. STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIES HOW WE MEET ALL THAT CRITERIA. STAFF SUPPORTS THE REQUEST FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PLANNING AND ZONING. UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER. RESPOND. ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? [02:05:02] ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? WE HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER JUST TOOK A BREAK. YES. ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SIR? I DON'T THINK SO. I THINK WE'VE DONE PRETTY DEEP ON THIS ONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'LL JUST STAND FAST FOR. THANK YOU. NOTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO ADD, SIR? NOTHING ELSE? OKAY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 2 TO 1. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. ORDINANCE 20 2427, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 53. STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARATION. SUBCHAPTER NATURAL, MANMADE, OR TECHNOLOGICAL EMERGENCY OR DISASTER BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS CONTAINED THEREIN. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. MADAM SHERMAN. YES. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS THE FINAL READING OF THE CHANGES TO THE EMERGENCY DECLARATION ORDINANCE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY ALLOWS FOR THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE USE TO BOTH INITIATE AND TO TERMINATE A STATE OF EMERGENCY. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR? YOU GOOD? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS SIDE FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I. PASSES THREE ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ORDINANCE 2024. OH. CARRY ON. THAT'S 29. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR TEN FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 26, LOT 1709, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 36. ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 19, PAGE 87, OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDED FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE TENNYSON. I'M AT ONE. CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC, MISS STEPHANIE? I'M AT ONE, TWO, SEVEN FIVE SCOTT STREET, SOUTHWEST. I DO HAVE AN EXISTING SLAB CONCRETE SLAB IN THE BACK THAT I WOULD LIKE TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE EASEMENT ON. YES, MA'AM. AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. I KNOW YOU'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT WITH THIS. THANK YOU FOR REACHING OUT TO ME. AND AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR FOR HELPING OUR CONSTITUENT. THANK YOU FOR REMEMBERING, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO DEAL WITH. YES, MA'AM, I TAKE THINGS I PUT MYSELF IN YOUR SHOES IS HOW I LEAD THIS CITY. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, MA'AM. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR. NO. ANYONE WISH TO, IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? GO AND HAVE A SEAT AND WE'LL COME ON. MR. BAD OR MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I TOO AM ALSO VERY EMPATHETIC FOR THIS COUPLE. THE FACT THAT IT WAS A CITY INSPECTOR THAT MADE A MISTAKE DIDN'T REALIZE THE PROBLEM BEFORE. DEFINITELY THE RESIDENT WHO DID EVERYTHING THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES FOR A MISTAKE. I KNOW MISTAKES CAN BE MADE, BUT DEFINITELY THE RESIDENT SHOULD NOT BE THE ONE TO HAVE TO PAY THE PENALTY. THANK YOU. CORRECT. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX MOTION, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. THERE'S ANOTHER. ANOTHER ONE TO COME BACK TO. RIGHT. THERE'S A FINAL HEARING. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 30, AN [02:10:02] ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 21, LOT 310, PORT MALABAR, UNIT TEN. ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15, PAGE 16 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. IS IT JOSE TAVARES? TAVARES. TAVARES. YES. MY PLEASURE. TAVARES. TAVARES. DOMINICAN. CARIBBEAN. SO JUST INTERESTED IN GETTING THE GATE FOR BUILDING. SHED. OKAY. IT'S A TEN, NOT 12 OR FOR 20 FOR 20FT IN THE BACKYARD. 12 BY 40. DID YOU SAY NO? 12 BY 30. 2012 BY 2020? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. OKAY. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'RE NOW BACK ON CONSENT. [CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:] SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR, I BELIEVE IT'S MR. RESOLUTION 2024, DASH 21, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 20 2336, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTIONS 2020 403 AND 20 2414, ADOPTING THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028. FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM. DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. AMENDING FIVE YEAR CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAM. I CAME ACROSS A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT. THE FIRST ONE WAS UNDER THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT. LET'S SAY THAT THERE ARE SOME DS 8200 CABLE AND PIPE LOCATORS. THEIR VALUE IS A $9,000 A PIECE. WE BOUGHT FIVE OF THEM LAST YEAR. FIVE OF THESE CABLE LOCATORS. I JUST WONDERING, DID WE NEED FIVE LOCATORS TO LOCATE CABLE AND PIPE? THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE. RIGHT. AND THEN THE SECOND ONE COMES UNDER THE PARKS PARK HEADINGS. AND THAT ONE WAS JUST AS CURIOUS TO SEE WHERE THE STATUS WAS OF THE MILITARY. STATIC DISPLAY 18,000 888,000 $18,860. HOPING THAT WE STILL HAD PLANS ON LOCATING IT AND IF SO, WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. FIVE VERSUS ONE. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU MA'AM. FIVE LOCATORS. YES, SIR. WE NEED THOSE BECAUSE THE CITY IS UNDERGOING IN A STATE OF GROWTH, AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO LOOK AT WHAT'S UNDERGROUND. SO THAT'S JUST BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY, ALL AROUND, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, CHECKING WHERE PIPES ARE AND THINGS. YEAH, IT'S RELATED TO GROWTH. MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. IT WAS PLANNED FOR VETERANS PARK. IT WAS A ATTEMPT TO ACQUIRE A PIECE OF MILITARY SURPLUS EQUIPMENT AND PUT IT ON DISPLAY. AS COUNCIL KNOWS OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR HAS FAITHFULLY CHECKED WITH THE MILITARY CONTACT. HE HAS, I BELIEVE, MONTHLY. IS THAT RIGHT, GREG? TO SEE IF ANYTHING IS AVAILABLE, WE WERE TOLD AT THE BEGINNING AND CONTINUE TO BE TOLD THAT BECAUSE OF MILITARY CONFLICTS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE'S NO AVAILABLE SURPLUS EQUIPMENT. SO WE REMAIN FAITHFULLY CHECKING. BUT THERE'S NOT BEEN A PIECE THAT WE CAN ACQUIRE. SO THAT'S THE LATEST UPDATE. NOTHING. NOTHING, MA'AM. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME SURPLUS WITHIN THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MILITARY. BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY THAT'S JUST THAT'S BIZARRE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE. MAYBE YOU HAVE A BETTER CONTACT. WE CAN. WELL, PERHAPS. PERHAPS I THINK COUNCILMAN JOHNSON MIGHT HAVE NAILED IT. PERHAPS HE WENT TO UKRAINE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT HE JUST. HE JUST WHISPERED THAT IN MY EAR. BUT. OKAY. AS YOU WERE. AS YOU WERE. SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MASTER CHIEF OR SERGEANT MAJOR. [02:15:06] I JUST INDUCTED YOU INTO THE NAVY, SIR. NO, HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT. HE DIDN'T SAY. OH MY GOODNESS. HE SAID NO, THANK YOU. COPY THAT. SO I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAYING GOODBYE. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 14. AND I PULLED THAT ONE JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE IMPACT FEES AGREEMENT ON THIS THE MALABAR DEVELOPMENT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GENTLEMAN IS THE ONE WEST OF MALABAR. I WAS I VOTED NO BECAUSE OF ALL THOSE HOMES THAT ARE GOING BACK THERE. AND IF YOU REMEMBER, I WAS ASKING THE DEVELOPER TO TO BUILD A BRIDGE SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE ACCESS TO SAINT JOHN'S AND NOT JUST BE LANDLOCKED RIGHT THERE ON, ON MALABAR. SO IT JUST BROUGHT TO REMEMBRANCE THAT I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF IMPACT FEE CREDIT. I SUPPORT THE, THE CREDIT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MOVING. RIGHT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF HOW IT WOULD HAVE BENEFITED THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY HAD WE ABLE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER MAKE ACCESS FROM SAINT JOHN'S AND ALSO MALABAR. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I, I SUPPORT THE THE CREDIT OF IMPACT FEE CREDIT AGREEMENT. I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT. SO I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 16, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST FDEP GRANT FOR $5 MILLION TO CONVERT SEPTIC TO SEWER. LOOKING AT CITY OF PALM BAY, THAT EQUALS A LOSS OF $2.5 MILLION IN REVENUE TO THE CITY. NOW, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE HOOKING UP PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD IT AVAILABLE ALL ALONG. NOW, THAT GENERATES THE QUESTION, HOW ABOUT ALL THESE NEIGHBORS THAT YOU'RE WILLING TO HOOK UP FOR, FOR FREE THAT PAID THEIR $5,670 AVERAGE THEIR NEIGHBORS PAID IT. NOW THIS PERSON'S GOING TO GET IT FOR FREE. IT'S JUST A SLAP IN THE FACE THAT'S JUST FOR THEIR EXTENSION CHARGES. RIGHT. SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE PERSON HE IS, I LOOKED UP WHAT MY ESTIMATED HOOK UP COST IS FROM SEPTIC TO SEWER. MINE'S ESTIMATED AT $18,000. I'M JUST HOPING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO PAY FOR MINE LIKE YOU'RE PAYING FOR THEM. OTHERWISE IT'S PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. RIGHT. THAT LEADS TO QUESTION NUMBER TWO. HOW ARE ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE FACING THE $30,000 CONVERSION FEE FROM TO AN AERATED SEPTIC SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH THEIR SYSTEMS ARE WORKING? YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE A WORKING SYSTEM BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAID YOU NEED TO CHANGE IT. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO INTO DEBT, TAKE OUT SECOND MORTGAGES TO CHANGE THEIR SYSTEM. RIGHT. AS BILL BATTEN SEES THIS ONE MORE TIME, THE GOVERNMENT MANDATED GREEN INCENTIVE AT THE HARDSHIP OF THE INDIVIDUAL. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT. I THINK GOVERNMENT IDENTITY SOMETIMES OVERREACH THEIR AUTHORITIES BASED ON WHAT SCIENCE SAYS. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THE COUNCIL WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO ASSIST THOSE THAT ARE GETTING WITH THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, TO ASSIST THEM IN THEIR LARGE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ARE GETTING READY TO FACE WHEN IT RELATES TO SEPTIC AND SEWER? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. JUST A LITTLE A LITTLE HIGHLIGHT ON THE MANDATE THAT HE'S SPEAKING ABOUT REGARDING SEPTIC SEPTIC TANKS AND OUR EFFORTS TO TO CONTINUE TO GET THOSE GRANTS FROM THE STATE. BUT WHERE WHERE ARE WE WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF. YES, SIR. SO THE MENTAL PROTECTION ON THAT? YES. FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. DID YOU KNOW HAVE THIS NEW LAW THAT THEY'RE WORKING TO IMPLEMENT THAT SAYS ESSENTIALLY WHAT MR. BATTEN SAID? YOU WERE BRIEFED ON THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR. ESSENTIALLY THE EXISTING SEPTIC TANKS HAVE TO ALL BE CONVERTED TO A NEWER TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY WITHIN ABOUT A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD. THE THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY ON THAT IS VERY CHALLENGING. IT'S IT'S MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND SO WE'RE NOT DONE. WE AND OTHER UTILITIES ARE NOT DONE WORKING WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO WORK ON SOME DIFFERENT VERSION OF THAT STORY, BECAUSE SEVEN YEARS TO DO THE NUMBER OF SEPTIC TANKS THAT EVERYONE HAS STATEWIDE IS JUST NOT REALLY IT'S NOT HUMANLY POSSIBLE. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY IN THE WORLD. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THAT WORK. [02:20:01] AND OF COURSE, WE ARE ALSO PURSUING THE ANGLE OF WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE MORE TIME TO RUN SEWER LINES SO WE CAN CONNECT PEOPLE TO SEWER AND NOT BE ON SEPTIC TANKS. SO THAT'S STILL UNDER WAY. THERE'S NO GOOD ANSWER FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH IT. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST REGARDING THE MANDATORY CONNECTION, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A POLICY DECISION THAT WAS MADE TO ATTEMPT TO COVER THE COSTS FOR THE CONNECTION FOR THOSE THAT WE ARE NOW, WE'RE NOW UNDER MANDATORY WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION ORDINANCE, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE CITY LONG TERM. BUT IT WAS A DECISION THAT WAS MADE, AND WE SUPPORTED IT. AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING CONSISTENTLY THROUGH STATE APPROPRIATIONS, THROUGH GRANTS, WHICH IS WHAT THIS ONE DOES TO TRY TO OFFSET THOSE COSTS FROM THE HOMEOWNER ON THEIR SIDE TO CONNECT. AND PART OF THE STORY IS THE STATE WANTED TO TO IMPLEMENT THAT NEW SEPTIC BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, FORCING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES TO COME UP WITH A YES, THEY THEY BASICALLY SOMETHING THAT HAD NOT BEEN A LOCAL CITY UTILITY RESPONSIBILITY WHICH WERE PRIVATE SEPTIC TANKS. THEY HAVE NOW MADE IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND A WAY TO GET EVERYONE CONVERTED OVER, WHICH IS FISCALLY IMPOSSIBLE. THANK YOU. AND FOR THOSE THAT NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THAT, PLEASE CONTACT US. WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOBBY OUR STATE LEGISLATORS. AND WITH THE REALIZATION THAT THIS IS THIS IS AGGRESSIVE AND IT DOES IT CAN IT CAN OCCUR. AND I KNOW THAT DEPUTY MAYOR JOINED ME IN TALLAHASSEE THIS, THIS PAST YEAR. AND WE DID THE ROUNDS AND THEY'RE THEY'RE REALIZING IT. OUR STATE LEGISLATORS ARE REALIZING THAT. SO I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 18. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. WHY HAS IT TAKEN FOUR YEARS TO BUILD A DOG PARK? RIGHT? IN 2020, THE CITY ASKED TO GAVE A FUND RAISING A FUND AMOUNT OF WHAT WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT? $150,000 TO BUILD A DOG PARK. THAT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO. IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE BUILDING BUILDING E OR SOMETHING. THAT SHOULD TAKE A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO BUILD. IT'S A DOG PARK. SO WHY FOUR YEARS? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION NOW, BECAUSE WE'VE WAITED FOUR YEARS, YOU NEED AN ADDITIONAL $40,000 TO COMPLETE IT, RIGHT? ITEM NUMBER TWO. THE ONLY GOOD THING I CAN SEE ABOUT THIS IS THAT YOU'RE USING NEXUS FUNDS FROM THREE, TWO, 905 AND NOT STEALING FROM ME IN THREE, TWO, 908 TO FIELD TO FUND A PARK PROJECT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT DROPPED DOWN ON PRIORITY COMPARED TO OTHER THINGS THAT WERE MORE IMPORTANT FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO WORK ON, IN LARGE PART BECAUSE OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE'VE ALSO BEEN INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF BUDGETED FUNDS WE'VE GIVEN TO THE PARKS FACILITIES DEPARTMENT TO DO A LOT OF NECESSARY WORK CITY WIDE, YOU KNOW, PLAYGROUND REPLACEMENTS, THINGS THAT THAT JUST WERE NEGLECTED OVER PRIOR YEARS. SO IN THAT THIS DROP DOWN ON PRIORITY. SO THAT IS THE SHORT ANSWER TO WHY IT WASN'T DONE SOONER. AND THERE WERE INDEED COST ESCALATIONS BECAUSE OF THE TIME DELAY, BUT ALSO I MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE ORIGINAL PROJECT BUDGET WAS PROBABLY NOT SUFFICIENT TO BEGIN WITH ANYWAY. SO THAT'S THE OTHER REASON IT'S GOING UP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU MA'AM, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS. [UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:] DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DAVID EVERLY TO THE ADULT MEMBER. AS AN ADULT MEMBER POSITION TO THE ADULT MEMBER POSITION OF THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD. IS SHE HERE? NO. PROBABLY NOT. YEAH. THAT'S SECOND. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO. ITEM NUMBER TWO. ACTUALLY, I'M STILL ON ONE. JUST SEPARATE THE MOTION. SO SECOND MOTION. SAME SAME ITEM. NUMBER ONE. MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT RAUL PEREZ TO THE ADULT MEMBER POSITION ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY. SO WE'RE STILL ON ITEM NUMBER ONE. STILL ON ONE RAUL. RAUL PEREZ. RAUL. PEREZ. MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. [02:25:01] ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. AYE. AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO. NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. DEPUTY MAYOR. YES, SIR. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MISS DAWN BUTLER TO THE TO THE ADVOCATE LOW INCOME POSITION ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES THREE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH. [NEW BUSINESS:] RESOLUTION 2024. THAT'S 22. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DECLARING THE POSITION OF SEAT THREE ON THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL VACATED AS OF JUNE 28TH, 2024, DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF RANDY FOSTER, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM LOEFFLER. THANK YOU MARY. YES. DUE TO THE RESIGNATION OF RANDY FOSTER, THIS IS JUST A REQUIRED RESOLUTION DECLARING THE POSITION OF C3 ON THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL. VACATE IT. AND THAT'S AS OF JUNE 28TH, 2024. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, SPEAKER CARDS. YES, MAYOR. MR. BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THIS ONE. THE FIRST ITEM IS THE FACT THAT HOW EASY IT WOULD BE TO FALL INTO WHAT? WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM RIGHT NOW. IT'D BE VERY EASY. I WAS GETTING A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS WHEN I WAS WATCHING COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. I WAS SAYING, OH MAN, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO BE EMBARRASSED TONIGHT. BUT LUCKILY IT DIDN'T. LUCKILY IT DID NOT HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S HOW EASILY IT COULD HAPPEN, RIGHT? SO I'M JUST KEEPING THAT IN THE BACK OF THE MINDSET THAT WITHOUT THREE PEOPLE MINIMUM UP THERE, WE DON'T HAVE THE QUORUM. JUST AS A REMINDER THAT THAT COULD BE VERY EMBARRASSING BECAUSE JUST BETWEEN NOW AND THE DATE OF YOUR APPOINTMENT, YOU'D STILL BE LOOKING AT NINE COUNCIL MEETINGS. THAT'S NOT EVEN COUNTING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AFTER THE ELECTION. SO IT'S WE HAVE A YOU HAVE A BIG DILEMMA THERE. WHICH LEADS ME TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. COULD YOU VERY BRIEFLY WHAT THE SCENARIO IS OR WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO APPLY FOR THE APPOINTMENT SO THAT THEY CAN KNOW, BE KNOWLEDGEABLE IF THEY WANT TO APPLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. GARY. ALTHEA. GARY FROM 1680 MAIN STREET NORTHEAST PALM BAY. ONE OF THE SAME THING? I WAS JUST TRYING TO REMIND OUR COUNCIL THAT OUR CHARTER STATED THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS, WE SHOULD APPOINT SOMEONE TO REPLACE A COUNCIL MEMBER THAT RESIGNED. SO I WAS JUST HOPING THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE CHARTER AND MAINTAIN THAT PRINCIPLE. I KNOW AS AS MR.. ROBERTS, AS HE SAID THAT SOMETIME WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AND AND THIS HAPPENED ALREADY AND I THINK WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAINTAIN THE PRINCIPLE OF OUR LAW AND RULES OF OUR CITY. THE SECOND THING IS I WAS WANTING TO JUST MENTION ABOUT THE SCIENCE. I HAD LOST ABOUT 10 OR 15 SCIENCE POLITICAL SCIENCE ON THE STREET, AND I CAN'T FIND THEM. NORMALLY, IF THE CITY TOOK UP THE SIGNS, WE LOCATE THEM BY THE PUBLIC WORKS. AND THIS IS KIND OF STRANGE, AND I WANT I WOULD LIKE THE CITY OR THE POLICE TO TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. I THINK WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A PRINCIPLE AND, AND BECAUSE THERE ARE A FEW LOCATIONS, ONE IS AT EMERSON AND ELGIN WHERE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF SIGNED BY A SHELL STATION. AND I WENT BY THERE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO. AND ALL THESE, ALL THESE SIGNS, LAWN SIGNS, THOSE YARD SIGNS ARE GONE. IT'S ONLY TWO SIGNS. ARE THERE IS MAIER MEDINA SIGN, AND TOBY, I THINK TOBY SIGN WAS THERE. AND AND AT LEAST 20 SIGNS THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER POLITICIAN HAD ON THERE HAD GONE ANOTHER LOCATION IS EMERSON. AND AND THEY GOT THAT BIG LOCATION BY THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE HAVE PROBABLY 1520 LAWN SIGN THERE, YOU KNOW, YARD SIGNS AND THEY ALL GONE. IT'S ONLY TWO BIG SIGNS. LEAF IS MAIER, MEDINA AND ANOTHER GUY. [02:30:03] AND I'M JUST SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO BRING OUR CITY IN THIS KIND OF ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT'S GETTING WE'RE LOSING OUR STANDARD THAT WE DON'T NEED BECAUSE ALL OF US HAVE THE RIGHT TO CAMPAIGN AND PUT THE SIGN IN AN APPROPRIATE SPOT. AND I KNOW, I KNOW THE, YOU KNOW, THE JURISDICTION BECAUSE I DON'T PUT A SIGN WHERE IT'S IN THE CITY RIGHT AWAY. AND IF A CITY MEMBER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED AND TAKE UP THE SIGN WITHOUT KNOWING THE, THE, THE YOU WOULD CALL THE THE DEFINITELY PROPERTY LINE, THEN THEY ARE DOING WRONG. THE OTHER THING IS I PUT A BUNCH OF SIGN BY CHERYL WHEN SHE HAVE A BIG BILLBOARD ON THE ROUTE, AND I PUT A BUNCH OF SIGN THERE AND THEY ALL GONE. AND THIS BILLBOARD IS ON THE PROPERTY THAT IS SELLING, SO I WANTED TO BE LOOKED INTO. I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THAT. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, SO YOU MENTIONED TWO CAMPAIGN SIGNS AND I JUST WANTED YOU MENTIONED TWO LOCATIONS, RIGHT. AND THE TWO LOCATIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED. THOSE ARE I HAVE BIG SIGNS THERE, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE OWNERS OF THAT PROPERTY ON BOTH LOCATIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED, SO I'M NOT SURE. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU PLACE THE BIG SIGN? NO. AT THOSE PROPERTIES? NO. OH, THAT GAS STATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I I CALLED MR. SUMMIT MYSELF, OKAY. BECAUSE SO MUCH SUPPLY ME GAS SINCE 1999. AND HE TOLD ME TO PUT SIGN ALL THESE LOCATIONS. HE ACTUALLY SENT ME AN EMAIL. SO THIS SIGN WAS TAKEN UP TOO, EVEN THOUGH I GET AUTHORIZED FROM MR. SO MUCH. SO THESE ARE LITTLE SIGNS. AND YOU'RE SAYING SOMEBODY'S PICKING THEM UP? WELL, IT'S NOT JUST MINE. AS I SAID, MAYBE FIVE, SIX OTHER CANDIDATES. IT WILL LEAVE EVEN EVEN DEPUTY MAYOR SIGN WAS GONE. YEAH. BUT, YEAH, I DON'T WANT TO. I DON'T WANT TO PUT THIS IN A IN A BAD PERSPECTIVE. JUST. I JUST HAVE SOME CONCERN. YES, SIR. I'M VERY CONCERNED. SOME QUESTIONS. YES. MAYBE WE COULD JUST HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT PAY CLOSER ATTENTION. BUT. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. AND I NORMALLY GO BY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE SIGN TAKE UP SOME TIME WHERE EVEN STAFF MAY HAVE A BAD JUDGMENT ON WHERE THE SIGN LOCATED. SO JUST LET ME STOP YOU THERE. YES, SIR. THE SIGNS THAT ARE TAKEN BY STAFF, THEY'RE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND DON'T THEY GO TO THE PUBLIC WORKS AREA? THEY DO. AND WE DON'T GO ON PRIVATE PROPERTY TO PULL SIGNS. YEAH. OKAY, SO HIS SIGN WAS ON. HE MENTIONS TWO LOCATIONS. THAT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE A THAT WOULD THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW. SO I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. GARY, WE'LL JUST. CAN YOU. I'LL REFER YOUR COMPLAINT TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THEY CAN LOOK INTO IT FOR YOU. OKAY? YEAH. PLEASE. PLEASE. BECAUSE AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THIS THING, IT'S JUST WE GOT A DIFFERENT LEVEL. YES, SIR. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT. NEXT SPEAKER, MR. KEARNS. BLESS YOU. DAVID KERN, 668 DUNBARTON CIRCLE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY. I WANT TO REMIND US HOW WE GOT HERE WITH TWO VACANCIES OVER HERE. BUT FIRST, LET ME READ SOMETHING THAT IS ESCAPING EVERYONE'S ATTENTION. FIRST AMENDMENT FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS. CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW RESPECTING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF, OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR THE PRESS, OR THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEABLY ASSEMBLY, PETITIONED FOR REDRESS TO THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WHEN COUNCILMAN PETE HAD HIS TROUBLE, OUR MAYOR DECIDED THAT GOD TOLD HIM NOT TO FILL THAT SEAT. AND THAT'S A FACT. OKAY. AND NOW MY FRIEND RANDY HAD A MEDICAL COLLAPSE AND NOW WE'RE STUCK. THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS. NOW, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT FILLING PETE SEAT, WE COULDN'T VOTE ON IT BECAUSE RANDY WASN'T IN THE BUILDING. SO I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE MAJOR EVENTS SUCH AS HURRICANE, FIRE, FLOOD, AND WE ONLY HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS. YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY THERE IS A STRICT SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. SOME OF THESE THINGS YOU YOU VOTED ON THIS EVENING. YOU HAVE ZONING ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WITH REGARD TO A LARGE FACILITY. YOU CAN HAVE SOMEBODY COME BACK AND SAY YOU VOTED 2 TO 1 ON THIS. IF THERE HAD BEEN A FULL COMPLEMENT OF THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT HAVE GONE THE OTHER WAY. YOU COULD HAVE LEGAL CHALLENGES, COULD YOU NOT? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEPARATE CHURCH AND STATE. [02:35:02] THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES. THE ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION IS ONE THING, GOVERNMENT IS ANOTHER THING. AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TWO EMPTY SEATS OVER HERE. AND IT IS TO ME, IT'S ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, WHO BELIEVES, WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN GOD, WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE UNIVERSAL CREATOR, WHATEVER. THERE'S A REASON IT IS FIRST AMENDMENT. IT IS THE REASON THAT WE SEPARATED OURSELVES FROM ENGLAND IN THE FIRST PLACE. CHURCH OF ENGLAND WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T WANT RUNNING OUR GOVERNMENT. OKAY, BECAUSE THE ENGLISH KING IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND. SO WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY OF DIFFERENT RELIGIONS, FAITHS AND BACKGROUNDS, AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN OUR DISTANCE GOVERNMENTALLY FROM RELIGION. WE DON'T ENTER. WE DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT TO RUN INTO THE CHURCH AND TELL THE CHURCH HOW TO ACT. BUT WE'RE IN A WE'RE IN A PICKLE HERE. IF WE DON'T FILL THIS SEAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. IF WE DO HAVE, WE'RE STARING DOWN THE BARREL OF A HURRICANE SEASON. IT COULD BE A BAD ONE. HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE LUCKY. MAYBE WE CAN. MAYBE THE MAYOR CAN PRESS UPON THE LORD GOD TO PREVENT OUR CASE FROM HITTING US. BUT WE HAVE TO KEEP INVIOLATE THE THE FIRST AMENDMENT. THAT'S WHY IT'S FIRST, FOLKS. IT'S FIRST FOR A REASON, BECAUSE IT'S REAL IMPORTANT. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS OF IT RIGHT HERE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER THIS IS CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT, SIR, EVEN EVEN ONE OF THE MOST LIBERAL AND I SAID THIS YEARS AGO OR A FEW YEARS AGO, EVEN ONE OF THE MOST LIBERAL SENATORS, RAPHAEL WARNOCK, SAID THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. YOU CAN'T SEPARATE THE GOD THAT'S INSIDE OF THEM. AND I'LL JUST DIGRESS WITH THAT. SO, GENTLEMEN, TODAY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. AND I'M SADDENED THAT THAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER WASN'T ABLE TO FINISH HIS TERM. I WILL SAY THAT WE PRAYED FOR HIM. WE WE'VE DONE SO MUCH THAT I THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD BE ABLE TO FINISH HIS TERM, BUT HIS CHALLENGES WAS SUCH THAT HE DECIDED TO RESIGN. SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, BUT WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY, IN MY OPINION. ELECTION DAY IS AUGUST 20TH, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, I REALLY BELIEVE WE HAVE A FLAWED SYSTEM. AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY SHARED THAT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. YOU GUYS KNOW PUBLICLY. I BELIEVE THAT SYSTEM IS FLAWED, BUT EVEN SO, YOU HAVE I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY CANDIDATES ARE AVAILABLE FOR SEAT FIVE. CAN YOU REFRESH MY MEMORY, MADAM LEFLER? THERE ARE CURRENTLY SIX CANDIDATES. THERE'S SIX CANDIDATES. SIX CANDIDATES, WHICH THEY GO STRAIGHT TO NOVEMBER. AND YET EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS MORE THAN TWO CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO AUGUST. SO THAT PROCESS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU TALK ABOUT NOVEMBER IS THE NEXT SPECIAL, IS THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, WHICH CONCLUDES IT'S A SPECIAL ELECTION. AND I BELIEVE I STILL BELIEVE IT'S FLAWED TODAY. SO MY, MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS, GENTLEMEN WHEN FILLING THIS SPACE. TWO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DECIDE WHO SITS ON THIS DAIS. OUT OF 140,000 PEOPLE, RIGHT TO TWO PEOPLE ON THIS DAIS WILL DECIDE IN THAT I THINK WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO APPOINT SOMEONE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE WINNER, THE THE FIRST. THE ONE THAT COMES IN FIRST. AUGUST 20TH. THAT WE CONSIDER APPOINTING THAT INDIVIDUAL SINCE IT IS AN ELECTION. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AND SAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. MAYOR. SO THE THE FIRST SO I'M GONNA SPEAK ON EVERYTHING. I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON EVERYTHING. MR. KEARNS, I'VE ALWAYS VALUE YOUR OPINION. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS VOLUNTEERING BACK IN THE DAY IN 2016, BEFORE I GOT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING BUT THE. THE COMMENT I WANT TO ADDRESS. AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST YOU, SIR, BUT THERE IS POWER IN PRAYER. THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS POWER IN PRAYER. I REMEMBER JUST WE HAD THAT FIRE OVER THAT BRUSH FIRE AND THEN THE FACT THAT THE RAIN PUT IT OUT. WE WERE PRAYING LIKE SO. THERE IS POWER IN PRAYER. SO I DON'T WANT TO DIMINISH THAT, SIR. THE MAYOR HAD HIS STANCE, JUST LIKE I HAVE MY STANCES AS WELL. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY RESPECTFUL, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN FOSTER OUR FRIEND WILL WANT. [02:40:03] AND THAT'S ALL, SIR. BUT TO THAT POINT, MAYOR, I ALSO DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY TWO PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SELECT. I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH CONSISTENT FOR THE PAST YEAR. AND I'LL GO OUT. I'LL GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY I WOULDN'T SELECT ANYBODY WHO'S RUNNING FOR OFFICE. IF YOU'RE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND RUNNING YOUR CAMPAIGN. MY MY SELECTIONS WOULD EITHER BE THE TWO GENTLEMEN RIGHT THERE, EITHER PHIL WEINBERG OR BILL BATTEN, BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT THING WITHIN THE CITY, MORE THAN OUR OWN STAFF. AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S BEEN. BILL BATTEN HAD A ARCHAIC, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM LIKE BEFORE I WAS BORN. SO. SO, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT OF CAMPAIGNING IS TO, YOU KNOW, GET OUT THERE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND SHOW THEM THE WORK YOU'RE WILLING TO DO, THE GRASSROOTS WORK YOU'RE WILLING TO DO TO REFLECT WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO DO WHEN YOU GET INTO OFFICE. YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY THE WHOLE POINT OF CAMPAIGNING. SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT. ON THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO SHOW US WHO WANTS IT THE MOST. AND WITH AUGUST, WITH THE PRIMARY, YOU HAVE TO GIVE OVER 50%. SO THAT'S THE OTHER POINT. SO IT MIGHT SOMEBODY IN YOUR CASE YOU MAY GET OVER 50%. BUT THEN IN THE OTHER CASES IT MIGHT NOT GO THAT WAY. SO IT MAY GO TO NOVEMBER. SO I WOULD I WOULD PREFER WE JUST SELECT SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT RUNNING, SOMEBODY WHO'S UNBIASED, WHO'S GOING TO TRULY BE NONPARTIZAN AND, YOU KNOW, RUN IT THROUGH THEIR OR WE RIDE IT OUT WITH THE THREE OF US. EITHER WAY, WE'VE BEEN DOING GREAT WITH THE THREE OF US. I COULD SEE IT GOING EITHER WAY, MAYOR, BUT THAT'S THAT'S JUST MY STANCE ON IT. BUT THE WILL OF COUNCIL. BUT I FEEL, YOU KNOW, WITH THE THREE OF US, WE CAN GET IT DONE OR IF WE FEEL WE NEED A FOURTH JUST TO KIND OF TRY TO ADD SOME MORE VALUE. LET'S, LET'S GO WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT RUNNING. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. YOU YOU SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I'M. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP. BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOPIC. I THINK WE'RE JUMPING THE GUN HERE, BUT THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE RESIGNATION OF OUR FRIEND OR COLLEAGUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SAD DAY. OBVIOUSLY WHEN WHEN THAT LETTER CAME OUT AND RANDY DECIDED TO TO RESIGN AND AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND YOU KNOW, MY HEART GOES OUT TO HIM AND AND KNOWING WHAT HE, HE WENT THROUGH. AND RANDY WAS MORE THAN A FRIEND. ASIDE FROM POLITICS SINCE 2016. RANDY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH ME SITTING HERE. I CAN TELL YOU IT WAS THE ENGINE TELLING ME THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER. LET'S GO, LET'S GO. WHEN I WAS. IS THAT MILITARY IN HIM? THE SOLDIER. LET'S GO. COME ON, LET'S GO. KNOCK ON. YOU KNOW, 100 MORE DOORS AND I'M DRIVING. WE'RE TAKING PLACE. I MEAN, WE DID THIS TOGETHER, AND I ATTRIBUTE A LOT OF ME SITTING HERE. HE'S SEEN SOMETHING IN ME THAT I MEAN, I KNOW I HAVE, BUT HE REALLY REINFORCED IT. RANDY WAS THE OLDER BROTHER THAT I DIDN'T HAVE. THIS MAN TOLD ME HE LOVED ME. MY SOME OF MY GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT. BROTHERS. FINANCIALLY, FAMILY. FAMILY. HE WAS THERE. SO THIS IS PERSONAL. THIS IS. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT I WANT TO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT NOT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO GET INTO MORE DETAIL INTO IT, YOU KNOW, RANDY WILL BE MISSED. AND, OF COURSE, YOU'RE JUST A PHONE CALL AWAY AND A TRIP AWAY TO YOUR HOUSE. BUT I'M EXCITED. REMEMBER, I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST TO BE PRESENT AS THEY PULL HIM OUT OF HIS HOUSE UNCONSCIOUS. SO THIS IS THIS IS EMOTIONAL FOR ME. MAIER. SO, SO I WANT TO SAY FOCUS ON THAT TONIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANKS FOR BRINGING IT BACK. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED, I WAS WILLING TO BLOCK FOR RANDY TILL THE END OF HIS TERM. LET HIM GET ACROSS THAT GOAL LINE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT THOSE ARE SPORTS. THAT'S THAT WAS A TEAMWORK APPROACH. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. I KNOW THAT THE SOLDIER IN HIM, I ACTUALLY MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT, SO I, I THIS CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE AS WELL. AND AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE SEVERITY OF COUNCILMAN FOSTER HIS RESIGNATION. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY RECEIVING THAT RESIGNATION AND MOVING FORWARD IN THAT REGARD. SO THERE AREN'T ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. SO. SO I'M GOING TO ASK FOR A MOTION. [02:45:02] SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. DEPUTY MAYOR WANTED THAT. I'M GOING TO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT BACK. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM LEFFLER. YES, MAYOR. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR COUNCIL TO SELECT ONE OF ITS MEMBERS TO SERVE AS A VOTING DELEGATE AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN AUGUST. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MAIER MEDINA TO BE OUR DELEGATE. WAIT WAIT WAIT. WE MIGHT HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. SAY WHAT? DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DO WE HAVE. NO. DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES WE DO. MR. BIDEN, I'M SORRY. MR. BATTEN. MR. CHIEF? NO, NO, NOT ON THIS ITEM. ITEM TWO. NUMBER TWO. RIGHT. NEW BUSINESS. YES. NEW BUSINESS. TWO. TWO AS WELL. NO, I GUESS NOT. I GUESS I GUESS NOT. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR MAIER. MEDINA TO BE OUR DELEGATE. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. WE'RE NOW ON REPORTS. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. IN REGARDS TO CONSTRUCTION. [COUNCIL REPORTS:] MADAM SHERMAN, WHERE ARE WE LOOKING TIMELINE WISE FOR MITTEN IN REGARDS TO OPENING THAT BACK UP? BECAUSE WITH SCHOOL UP, I ALREADY SEE IT. I KNOW BILL SEES IT WITH SCHOOL, STARTING WITH SOUTHWESTERN TURNER. I'M JUST HOPING WE'LL BE READY BEFORE THAT. THAT IS THE PLAN. ABSOLUTELY. JOHN, DO YOU WANT TO GIVE THEM A QUICK UPDATE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL? JOHN MCCALL, ONE OF OUR SENIOR INSPECTORS. THANK YOU. MANAGERS. EXCELLENT QUESTION SIR. YES. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. JUST LET YOU KNOW THEY STARTED FDR OPERATIONS YESTERDAY AND THEY ARE EXPECTED TO RESUME TOMORROW. AND THEY SHOULD. IT'LL BE CLOSE, BUT WE'RE HOPING IT'LL BE DEFINITELY DONE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. OKAY. FOR SURE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY. YES. INCLEMENT WEATHER? YEAH. OKAY. SO DO YOU THINK ALL THE RAIN WILL POSTPONE SOME OF THAT? THOSE AFTERNOON STORMS? IT POTENTIALLY COULD, BUT OKAY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. OKAY. MAYOR, IF I MAY, IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT TO TO THAT PROJECT OR TO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MINTON, RIGHT. MINTON, MALABAR AND JUPITER. YES, SIR. YEAH. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT AS PART OF THAT? OR IS IT JUST REPAVING? IT'S JUST FDR AND RESURFACING? YES, SIR. OKAY. LIKE THE FOUNDATION, THE WIDENING YOU'RE SPEAKING OF? YES. LIKE, NO, THERE'S NO PLANS FOR THAT. OH, THE SIDEWALK AND SO ON. IMPROVE THE SIDEWALK. THE SIDEWALK, EXISTING SIDEWALKS. YEAH. THE SIDEWALK IS A SEPARATE ISSUE OF VALENTINO. AND I'VE TALKED ABOUT FUNDING THAT. BUT WE COULDN'T WIDEN IT BECAUSE IF YOU, IF YOU HAD DRIVEN BY BEFORE IT STARTED, BEFORE IT WAS CLOSED, WE HAD STAKED AND SURVEYED. AND SO THERE WERE STAKES WITH THE LITTLE PINK FLAGS ON THEM THAT SHOWED WHERE THE WHERE THE THE SPACE WE WOULD NEED TO WIDEN THE ROAD. AND ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLETELY RESHAPE THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN CANAL. CORRECT. AND WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE RIGHT AWAY FROM THEM AS WELL AS RIGHT OF WAY WE NEED ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO IT'S A VERY TIGHT CORRIDOR. AND IT WASN'T SOMETHING WE COULD DO AT THIS POINT. SO ANY ANY PLANS ON WORKING ON THE PEDESTRIAN CROSS ROAD? FROM THE LIBRARY ENTRANCE TO TO THE WINN-DIXIE PLAZA? YEAH. I DON'T THINK JOHN'S INVOLVED IN THAT NECESSARILY, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY ON. THAT WOULD BE MORE MR. FRANK VALENTINO'S LIST. YEAH. OKAY. I'M SORRY, THE WRONG GUY, BUT NO WORRIES THAT THAT IT'S ON. YEAH, IT'S ON THE LIST AS WELL. YES. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. IT'S NEEDED. AND NEXT QUESTION. IT MIGHT BE FOR YOU TOO, SIR. I HAD THE PRINCIPLE OF HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL WAS REACHED OUT REGARDING WHERE ARE WE WITH THE LIGHT OVER THERE? OH, THAT WAS ON MY LIST. OH, SORRY. OKAY. WE'RE GOOD. YEAH. THE SIGNAL. THE SIGNAL? WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A PIGGYBACK. THAT WAY WE CAN GET THE SIGNAL UP WITHOUT DOING THE INTERSECTION, RESURFACING AND ALL THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO GETTING THAT DONE. I, I'M HOPING WE FIND SOMETHING OUT HERE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. OKAY. AND I CAN ADD TO THAT AS WELL. YES, MA'AM. WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING. CHRISTINE'S KIND OF THE LEAD ON THIS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE WORKING ON A A PLAN TO. IF ALL GOES WELL, BRING AN AGENDA ITEM A LITTLE BIT LAST MINUTE FOR NEXT WEEK'S MEETING. MONDAY, TUESDAY, BRINGING A REVISION FOR YOU. BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS ACTUALLY THE IDEA THAT MR. MILES BROUGHT US. RIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING ACTIVELY AT WE'VE GOTTEN MULTIPLE QUOTES FOR THESE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNALS BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE SOMETHING INSTALLED BEFORE SCHOOL BEGINS. [02:50:07] WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN APPROVAL FROM BREVARD COUNTY TO DO AN ALL WAY STOP, BUT WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT'S SUFFICIENT. AND BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET ANY BIDS ON THIS, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTION PROJECT, AND THIS WAS JUST OUR PHASE ONE INTERSECTION PROJECT, DO A LITTLE BIT OF TURN LANE WORK AT A SIGNAL THAT'S ON SPAN WIRE. NOT EVEN THE FULL TEMPORARY, BUT JUST SOMETHING, NOT EVEN THE FULL SIGNAL, BUT SOMETHING TEMPORARY. WE GOT NO BIDS. SO WHAT JOHN'S TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT. WE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, SPLIT THOSE TWO PIECES OF THE BID THAT WE TRIED TO GET AND GOT NO RESPONSES ON. SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY TO CONTRACT TO JUST THROW UP THE SIGNAL FOR US ON THE SPAN WIRE AND THEN SEPARATELY DO THE THE TURN LANE PROJECT. BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING THAT. AND THE ITEM I'M LOOKING AT BRINGING NEXT WEEK, IF ALL GOES WELL WITH WHAT THE TEAM IS WORKING ON, IS GOING TO BE THE FUNDING THAT WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TO BRING IN THOSE TEMPORARY SIGNALS. AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT ONE OF THE VENDORS WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE COULD BE ABLE TO GET THE ONES THAT WE NEED ON A LEASE BASIS. IT'S LIKE A MONTHLY RENTAL. TO START, WE CAN ALSO BUY THEM, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT AS WELL. BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, WE COULD GET THEM WITHIN 2 TO 3 WEEKS, WHICH WOULD MEET OUR TIME TIMELINE GOAL TO HAVE THAT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS. SO WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING THAT. AND THAT'S WHY I'LL BRING AN AGENDA REVISION BASED ON WHAT STAFF IS PULLING TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT TILL THE AUGUST 1ST COUNCIL MEETING BECAUSE THAT'D BE TOO CLOSE. SO YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. MAYOR. YES, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU'RE SPOT ON ON THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY I WANT TO AGAIN, THANK MR. MILES FOR BRINGING THIS SUGGESTION BECAUSE THESE PORTABLE LIGHTS MAY BE A WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE PURCHASE AND PERHAPS GET MULTIPLE. AND WE COULD USE THEM RIGHT ALONG THAT CORRIDOR. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PACE AND SAINT JOHN'S IN THE INTERIM. RIGHT. AND EMERSON AND SAINT JOHN'S. RIGHT. AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE THOSE AND, AND AND PUT THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BUT I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IDEALLY IT WORKS OUT. I KNOW STAFF WILL WORK THROUGH THAT, BUT THAT'S AN OPTION FOR US TO PLUG SOMETHING IN RIGHT AWAY AND TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF INVENTORY AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, PUT PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST, I THINK THAT'LL WORK. WELL. IF WE WERE TO PURCHASE IT. BUT WE'LL KNOW MORE FOR OUR NEXT MEETING A WEEK FROM TODAY. YES, SIR. AND AND IDEALLY I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF BUYING MULTIPLE OF ONES IF WE COULD AFFORD IT. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU, JOHN, I APPRECIATE YOU. NO PROBLEM. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THEN. THAT WAS GOOD. OH, YOU HAD ONE MORE FOR HIM? NO, NO, NOT FOR HIM. YOU'RE GOOD SIR, YOU'RE GOOD. LAST THING I I JUST SHOT IT OVER TO MISS TERRY, AND SHE SHOT IT OVER TO WELL, I SHOT IT OVER MISS TERRY AND SUZANNE TO SHOOT IT OVER TO YOU, COUNCIL. BUT FOR THE EVANS CENTER. TALK ABOUT PRAYERS. KIND OF JUST BEEN PRAYING ON STUFF, AND IT KIND OF FELL TOGETHER. THERE'S ALREADY WE'RE LOOKING AT ISSUES IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH SHORTAGE OF LABOR FORCE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOOD RESTAURANTS. AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN ISSUE OF MORE CRIME FROM OUR YOUTH. AND DOWN IN MIAMI, THEY HAVE YOU CAN LOOK IT UP, JUST GOOGLE IT. VIBE 305. AND IT'S A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WHERE THEY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE PROVIDING ONGOING SUPPORT, LIFE SKILLS, PROGRAMING, SOCIAL ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND JOB OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY'RE GIVING THEM, THEY'RE EQUIPPING THEM WITH THE CULINARY SKILLS. THEY HAVE A FOOD TRUCK AND A PHYSICAL LOCATION. AND I'M THINKING, OKAY, EVANS CENTER, OKAY, WE HAVE ALL THE CULINARY STUFF INSIDE. TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE AN EASY WIN. IT LOOKS LIKE A VERY EASY WIN. SO I'M INTERESTED BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING SHERIFF IVEY WILL GET ON BOARD WITH, TOO. SO I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH STAFF. I'VE DEPARTMENT OF JUVENILE JUSTICE, OUR STATE, OUR STATE ATTORNEY, TRY TO GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD SO WE CAN DO IT IN OUR OWN WAY, BUT MIMIC WHAT MIAMI DID IN REGARDS TO TRYING TO BRIDGE THAT GAP FOR OUR YOUTH AND EQUIP THEM WITH SKILLS INSTEAD OF TIKTOK, MAN. YOU GOT A BIG THUMBS UP ON THAT. I THINK THE STATE ATTORNEY, THE ESPECIALLY I THINK THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S OVERSEES THE JUVENILE PROGRAM IS DARREN. THAT THAT'S HIS FIRST NAME. SO I COULD GIVE YOU HIS CONTACT. YES, SIR. OR I COULD GIVE IT UP, HOWEVER. YEAH, I'LL GIVE IT TO MADAM SHERMAN SO YOU GUYS CAN START AT LEAST THOSE DISCUSSIONS. AND THEN THAT 305 REACH OUT TO DON. MAYBE THAT MAYBE THEY'RE THEY'RE WILLING TO COME UP THIS WAY, YOU KNOW? OKAY, MAYBE. AND THEY ALREADY GOT THEY'RE PLUGGED IN WITH DOJ. I THINK THAT'S A WIN WIN. IF WE'RE GOING TO TEACH THEM A LIFE SKILL AND, AND GIVE THEM THAT TYPE OF DISCIPLINE, I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YES, SIR, I REALLY DO. DOES THAT CONCLUDE? YEP. THAT CONCLUDES SO. HE'S GOT A BIG THUMBS UP I AND AND I KNOW SO I THINK THAT THAT'S GOOD. [02:55:04] THANK YOU SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR ON REPORTS. JUST BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR. PARKS AND REC FACILITY. CERTAINLY I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH, YOU KNOW POLITICIANS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE OF, OF OUR AREA ALL OVER THE COUNTY CAME DOWN AND CELEBRATED WITH US. WHAT A GREAT EVENT. YOU KNOW, MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, THOSE TWO DEPARTMENT UNDER FIRE. POLICE. GREAT POLICE PRESENCE THERE. YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR YOU KNOW, DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS WERE IN SHORTS AND, YOU KNOW, SO BUT BUT GREAT TO ME SHOUT OUT, I MEAN, THE THE LAST I'VE HEARD, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED ABOUT, WHAT, 40,000 PEOPLE? JUST AMAZING. THAT'S MIND BLOWING. SO KUDOS TO YOU. AND, AND AND REALLY, IT WAS GREAT. IT WAS GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANKS FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO. AMEN. IS THAT IT? YES, SIR. YEAH. I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT. I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS, BUT THE 4TH OF JULY, IT'S THE TALK OF NOT ONLY OUR TOWN, BUT THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND I'M IN VIERA AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT, SO I'M. I'M PROUD OF WHAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE DONE. OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS, THE WHOLE TEAM JUST CAME TOGETHER. WE HAD ELECTED OFFICIALS OUT THERE. IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL EVENT, AND. AND IT EXCEEDED LAST YEAR'S FIREWORKS. SO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE HERE'S THE TEST. NOW YOU GOT TO EXCEED THAT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE FIREWORKS ARE REMARKABLE. AND PEOPLE JUST THEY HOLD ON TO THAT. AND REMEMBER THAT THAT IS THE BIGGEST CELEBRATION IN OUR NATION'S HISTORY. AND I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE FULLY ON BOARD WITH THAT. I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY, AND I KNOW I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, WE'VE TAXED OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. WE'VE TAXED OUR FIRST RESPONDERS IN PARTICULAR. WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY DIFFICULT, TRAGIC INCIDENTS WITH HOMICIDES AND, AND SHOOTINGS AND, AND AND YOU CAN'T REGULATE THE HEART, GENTLEMEN, BUT FOR THEM, FOR THOSE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE OUT THERE HELPING US EACH AND EVERY DAY, OUR FIREFIGHTERS, I'M TELLING YOU, I LIVE NEAR STATION THREE. THEY'RE CONSTANTLY MOVING. I LIKE TO GET THOSE RECORDS BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ON CALLS. I KNOW THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOUBLE TAPPED TO. THAT'S A TERM THEY USE BEFORE THEY COME BACK. THEY ALREADY HITTING. SO, CHIEF, PLEASE LET THEM KNOW THAT HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE THEM. AND THEN I WANTED TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT REGARDING FDOT, OUR TPO TODAY. AND AND DEPUTY MAYOR, THANKS FOR BEING THERE. REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO DISTRICT FIVE SECRETARY, AND I WANT TO I LOOK AT PHIL WEINBERG BECAUSE HE HE DOES SO MUCH FOR US. HE SITS ON THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE TPO. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO. BROTHER. AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO A PRESENTATION AND TEAM. I MUST TELL YOU OUR EFFORTS TO GET THE PD AND E STUDY FOR THE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS IS ACTUALLY GOING, GOING ON, GOING ON BY THE END OF THIS MONTH. THE STUDY IS GOING TO ENSUE. BUT HERE'S WHAT REALLY GOT TO ME. THEY KNOW HOW SERIOUS WE ARE ABOUT EXPEDITING THAT, HOW WE'VE LOST A LIFE. AND SO IN THAT DISCUSSION, HE UNDERSTANDS THAT WE WANT TO EXPEDITE THAT. BUT WHERE HE GOT MY HEART, LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, WAS, AS I KEEP SAYING, THE BAD BEHAVIOR OF 995, THEY ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO COLLECT DATA BASED ON THEIR VIDEO, AND THEY'RE GOING TO PERHAPS DISCUSS WITH FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL TO SEE HOW WE COULD DETER SOME OF THAT BAD BEHAVIOR THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE PAST. AND YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT I LOOKED TO THE TO THE REAR OF THE OF OUR MEETING ROOM, AND THAT'S WHEN I SAW DEPUTY MAYOR THERE. SO I WAS LIKE A BIG THUMBS UP WHEN HE WHEN HE WAS THERE FOR THAT PART OF THE PRESENTATION. BUT I'M, I'M EXCITED TO REPORT THAT THAT PDA STUDY WAS REALLY EXPEDITED. SO THEY ARE GOING TO START STUDYING THAT IT IS FUNDED. THE CONSTRUCTION IS NOT FUNDED, BUT THEY ARE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS MEANING INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC SIGNALS LEADING THROUGHOUT. SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IN THE MEANTIME BEFORE THAT CONSTRUCTION ENSUES. SO THAT ENDS MY REPORT. AND WE ARE NOW ON REPORTS FOR MADAM SHERMAN. [ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:] THANK YOU. MAYOR. I ACTUALLY JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE TWO MEMBERS OF STAFF. ONE WHO HAS BEEN WITH US FOR A LITTLE WHILE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'VE MET HER. SO ALTHEA JEFFERSON IS OUR ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. [03:00:04] SHE'S BEEN DOING AMAZING THINGS FOR THE TEAM, AND I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE HER TO YOU ALL. AND ALSO PLEASE, TO PRESENT TO YOU GABRIEL BODEN, WHO'S OUR NEW UTILITIES DIRECTOR. THIS IS HIS SECOND WEEK. SO GLAD TO HAVE HIM ON THE TEAM AS WELL. WELL, WELCOME ABOARD, GABRIEL. AND WOULD YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS OR. I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT WOULD YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS? EITHER ONE. YES. YES, MA'AM. THIS IS I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT AT LEAST YOU COULD COME SAY HELLO TO THE PUBLIC AND AND YOU'RE WELCOME. WELCOME ABOARD. MA'AM. I LOVE THAT YOU HAVE A SWEATER ON, BECAUSE I HAVE ON, TOO. GOOD EVENING. I'M ALTHEA JEFFERSON. I COME TO YOU BY WAY OF 18 YEARS AT ORANGE COUNTY. FIVE YEARS ALMOST, AT HALLANDALE BEACH. A LITTLE WHILE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR VILLAGE OF INDIANTOWN FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS, AND THE SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT, I HAVE ENJOYED IMMENSELY MY LAST 90 OR 120 DAYS HERE. THE STAFF IS GREAT, THE PROJECTS ARE VERY INTERESTING, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING YOU REALIZE YOUR VISION BY WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY. WELL, WELL, SANDY MANY QUESTIONS. THANKS FOR THANKS FOR JOINING US. WELCOME TO THE TEAM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GABRIEL. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. GABRIEL BOWDEN UTILITIES DIRECTOR, I COME TO YOU BY WAY OF NORTH DALLAS, WHERE I'VE BEEN FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF LAST THREE YEARS WORKING IN UTILITIES THERE. AND PRIOR TO THAT WITH AMERICAN WATER FOR 15 YEARS. MY LAST FIVE WITH THEM WAS IN LINCOLN, ILLINOIS. AND TONIGHT, WITH THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE, REMINDED ME A LOT OF LINCOLN. WE HAD PROBABLY AS MANY PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THAT COUNCIL MEETINGS IN A COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 15,000. SO YOUR SMALL BUT MIGHTY IN WHAT YOU SAY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. IT'S GREAT TO BE A PART OF TONIGHT'S MEETING, AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND OUR CITIZENS. WELL, THANK YOU, GABRIEL. WELCOME TO THE TEAM. THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU, BUDDY. MADAM SMITH. NO REPORTS. OKAY. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. ANYONE WISH TO COME ON UP YOUR NEXT. [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] COME ON UP YOUR NEXT MASTER CHIEF. PAT DELPERO FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY. OKAY. I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. CAN WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE BUILDING NOTIFICATION OF THE NEIGHBORS FROM 500FT TO 15 OR 2000FT? BECAUSE WHEN YOU GOT NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU GOT LOTS OF PEOPLE MORE THAN 500FT. SO IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? I HAD A CITIZEN ASKED ME ABOUT THE CHIPS. DIDN'T WE HAVE A COMPANY THAT CAME IN OR MAKING CHIPS? COMPUTER CHIPS? ROGUE VALLEY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? THE THE ROGUE VALLEY? ANYWAY, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CONCERN OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT IT TAKES TO MAKE CHIPS. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR THIS MANUFACTURING? AND IF WE GET ANY MORE OF THOSE COMPANIES, BECAUSE WE HAD AN ISSUE A COUPLE SUMMERS AGO WITH THE AMOUNT OF WATER. SO BUILDING DEPARTMENT I LIKE STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM MORE ENGAGED WITH THE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND, FALLON, I NEED THEM TO LOOK AT THAT ONE BUILDING. IT'S THE SECOND BLOCK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF FALLON. YOU HAVE THE HOUSE THAT'S AT LEAST THIS HIGH COMPARED TO THE NEIGHBOR RIGHT NEXT DOOR. AND THE GRADING GOES LIKE THIS. HE'S GOT A FENCE. THERE'S NO SPACE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS. SO. AND WE NEED TO REALLY CHANGE THAT. STORAGE UNITS. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW ON BABCOCK FROM PALM BAY ROAD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO. WACO. AND WE'VE GOT A HUGE ONE GOING ACROSS ACE HARDWARE. WE'VE GOT AT LEAST TWO. BEFORE YOU GO OVER THE OVERPASS, WE GOT A FUTURE ONE JUST NORTH OF USED TO BE HEALTH FIRST. [03:05:02] ANYWAY, BETWEEN HEALTH FIRST, THAT BUILDING THAT USED TO BE, I DON'T KNOW, I FORGET ANYWAY. AND THEN WE HAD ONE OVER IN TURKEY CREEK AND THEN WE'VE GOT TWO ON PALM BAY ROAD, SO THAT'S TOO MANY. I THINK THAT'S IT ANYWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE THINGS CHANGED. THANK YOU MA'AM. MA'AM. HAVE WE LOOKED AT THE GRADING ON FALLON? I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK WHICH PROPERTY IS. I FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE LOOKED AT THAT ONE ALREADY, BUT I'LL CHECK BACK WITH PAT ON THAT. THANK YOU. MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE RAPID GROWTH WITH WHICH WE'RE WE'RE GROWING, WHICH IN SOME ASPECTS THAT'S VERY GOOD. THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF THAT IS YOU'RE ALL EXPERIENCING IS THE FAILURE THAT IT LEADS TO WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, WITH THE ABILITY TO MOVE TRAFFIC WITHIN THE CITY. THAT'S ONE PROBLEM. BUT THE OTHER PROBLEM IS, WHICH BROUGHT OUT BY THE POLICE AND THE FIRE TONIGHT IS THE FACT THAT OUR POPULATION GROWTH IS NOT IS EXCEEDING WHAT OUR MANDATE FOR OPERATIONAL SAFETY IS WITHIN THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS. SO WHEN I SAID WHEN I MADE THE STATEMENT OF OUR BUDGET FAILURE, IT'S BECAUSE OUR BUDGET WON'T ALLOW US TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH IN IMPLEMENTING GOOD SAFETY FEATURES FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING MADE THE STATEMENT OF A FAILED BUDGET. OUR GROWTH IS EXCEEDING WHAT OUR BUDGET TO SUPPORT ITSELF IS. THAT'S WHERE I WAS TALKING ABOUT. I AGREE, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD CREDIT RATING. WE'RE DOING VERY STRONG. WE HAVE LOTS OF RESERVE. WE'RE MEETING ALL KINDS OF ON PAPER SUCCESSES. PAPER SUCCESS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR DAILY LIVING SUCCESS. YOUR DAILY LIVING SUCCESS IS WHERE WE'RE FAILING. WE LOOK GOOD ON PAPER, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE CITY ITSELF LOOKS GOOD. SO THE SOLUTION TO THAT IS VERY SIMPLE SLOW GROWTH TO MATCH YOUR OPERATIONAL IMPLEMENTATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE. THEN YOU'RE DOING THEM, BRINGING THEM UP TOGETHER. WHEN YOU BRING THEM UP TOGETHER, YOU DON'T HAVE AN OFFSET IN A POTENTIAL FAILURE. THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE YOU'RE ABLE TO FILL THE THE SEATS BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS A TOPIC RIGHT NOW THAT'S NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON HARD. I LIKE WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN THE PRESENTATION. I'M SORRY I WAS NOT HERE. I HAD TO WATCH IT ON ON A COMPUTER, BUT IT WAS A GOOD PRESENTATION. AND I SEE WHERE YOU'RE HEADED AND I GIVE THE KUDOS TO THE CITY MANAGER ON THIS ONE. RIGHT? BUT YOU STILL HAVE A DILEMMA. YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT. WE STILL AREN'T IMPLEMENTING OUR GROWTH TO MATCH OUR POPULATION EXPANSION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. SOPRANO. ALTHEA GAUTIER, 1680 MAIN STREET. ARTIST PALM BAY. MR.. BILL, I'D MENTION THE PERFECT MESSAGE? YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF GOING OVERGROWN OR TO, TO REACH ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY HERE FOR THIS TIME IS THE SEWER SYSTEM. THE SEPTIC TO SEWER IS GOING TO BE A REAL NIGHTMARE FOR OUR CITY, AND I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE ADDRESSED. I HAVE A SUGGESTION. WHY DON'T THE CITY GET A LOAN OR SOMETHING AND PUT THIS THIS SEWER SYSTEM IN PLACE? AND THEN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN A SENSE, WE I TALK ABOUT THIS MORE THAN ONCE. I OPERATE A TRUCKING BUSINESS. AND IF I GET A CONTRACT THAT NEEDS 20 TRUCKS, 20 DUMP TRUCKS, I HAVE TEN, RIGHT. AND IF I GET A CONTRACT FOR 20, SHOULD I TELL THE THE THE THE THE CONTRACTOR THAT YOU NEED TO PAY ME TO BUY TEN MORE TRUCKS TO FULFILL THE JOB? I CAN'T DO THAT. I NEED TO GET A LOAN AND BUY THE TEN TRUCKS AND CHARGE THE CONTRACTOR THE THE THE FEE TO COVER MY COSTS. I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO PUT SEWER SYSTEM IN OUR CITY ON THEIR EXPENSES, AND CHARGE THE CITIZENS ON A 20 YEAR, 30 YEAR TIME. THEY GET REPAID FOR WHAT THEY PUT IN AND FOR THE SERVICE. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE CITY NEEDED TO DO. THEY, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF PUTTING A CITIZEN WITH A BURDEN OF $30,000, MOST OF THESE CITIZENS CAN'T EVEN BUY, YOU KNOW, REGULAR LIVING STUFF. [03:10:01] AND I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO FIGURE A WAY TO RUN THIS PIPE ALL OVER THE CITY, MAKE IT AVAILABLE FOR THEM AND OFFER THEM THE SERVICE, CHARGE THEM THE AMOUNT PER MONTH FOR THE SERVICE. AND IN 2030 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THE CITY MAKE THE MONEY TO COVER THEIR COSTS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY OPINION. I JUST THINK IT'S GOING THE WRONG WAY. JUST LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, WE WENT AHEAD AND HAVE A $150 MILLION DEFICIT FOR, FOR, FOR THE ROADS AND, AND THE CITIZENS BENEFIT FROM IT. THAT'S OKAY. BUT THIS THE CITY ITSELF, THE GOVERNMENT, WE NEED TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE AND COLLECT IT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE CITIZEN. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. THERE'S OUR WASTEWATER PLANTS. NOT EVEN DONE YET, BUT WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT, BY THE WAY? I HAVE SOME. SO MUCH I COULD SAY TO THAT. I'LL TRY TO. I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT. IT'S. YEAH, IT'S MORE OF A WORKSHOP DISCUSSION, RIGHT? BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR, THE WASTEWATER PLANT IS STILL SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED IN 2025. I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL IN THE APRIL TIME FRAME FOR COMPLETION, BUT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE WE, A YEAR AND A HALF BEHIND SOMETHING LIKE THAT? TWO YEARS. TWO YEARS. THANK YOU. YEAH. SO SO THAT'S STILL. WE HAVEN'T THE THE CURRENT PATH IS NOT SHIFTED AS IT'S SHIFTED BEFORE, BUT DO YOU WANT ME TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE OTHER STUFF? YES, MA'AM. CARRY ON. ALL RIGHT. SO VERY, VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL. IT WAS ONLY LAST YEAR THAT WE GOT MANDATORY CONNECTION ORDINANCES IN PLACE FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER, WHICH IS IMPORTANT TO MAKING SURE THAT WHEN WE RUN LINES, PEOPLE WILL CONNECT. THAT WAS STEP ONE. STEP TWO IS WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE CAPACITY AT OUR PLANTS. SO THE WASTEWATER PLANT COMING ONLINE IS THE MAYOR MENTIONED VERY IMPORTANT. WE'VE ADDED WATER CAPACITY. WE HAVE TO ADD MORE WATER CAPACITY. SO WE MUST CONTINUE TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE BEHIND US. THERE ARE STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUNDS THAT WE CAN USE TO ACQUIRE FUNDING TO RUN LINES LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. BUT ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL THINGS THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH IN THE PAST IS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY WITHOUT AN ASSESSMENT, A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE TO ASSESS PROPERTIES LIKE ON PROPERTY TAXES. YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO BUILD, YOU KNOW, PUT $20 MILLION OF INFRASTRUCTURE, SPREAD IT OUT. THE COST OF THAT ON THE RESIDENTS. SOME CITIES CAN JUST PUT THAT ON TAX BILLS. WE CAN'T BECAUSE OUR CHARTER PROHIBITS US FROM DOING THAT. SO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE. SO WHAT THAT PUTS YOU IN A POSITION TO DO IS IF THE VOTERS SAY, YES, THAT'S GREAT AND YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD, YOU CAN GET THE FUNDING AHEAD OF TIME FROM THE STATE REVOLVING LOAN FUND PROGRAM, RUN THE LINES, AND THEN PEOPLE HAVE TO CONNECT AND THE MATH WORKS. IF THEY SAY NO, THEN YOU'RE FACED WITH A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY AFFORD TO TAKE ON THAT LOAN, COVER THOSE COSTS, AND HAVE PEOPLE CONNECTED, IT BECOMES MORE CHALLENGING. SO BECAUSE OUR CHARTER SAYS THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE TO GO TO A VOTE OF THE PEOPLE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE A LITTLE MORE MATH INVOLVED. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK OR SAILORS. OH, AS YOU WERE, MA'AM. COME ON. AND THEN SAILOR? STICE. IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING DOWN NEXT. YEAH. AS YOU WERE. EILEEN. SEP 1230, RAIL ROAD NORTHEAST. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD HANDLE THE REPLACEMENT OF RANDY FOSTER. I DON'T THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE ANY OF THE CANDIDATES, BECAUSE IT WILL GIVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE TO WHOEVER YOU SELECT. AND THE OTHER THING IS, I SUGGESTED A WHILE AGO THAT WE HAVE ALTERNATES READY TO COVER SEATS WHEN THEY'RE VACATED BECAUSE IT'S A DISGRACE THAT WE'VE HAD THAT SEAT EMPTY FOR SO LONG ON SEAT FIVE. EVEN EVEN WITH C THREE, WE NEED PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT BILL BATTEN BE APPOINTED, AND ONE OF THE REASONS I PREFER AN APPOINTMENT TO THE RANKED CHOICE IS OUR CHARTER SAYS THAT NO COUNCIL MEMBER MAY SHOW PREFERENCE FOR ONE PERSON OVER ANOTHER. THAT PROCESS WAS FOR ME, IT WAS VERY INSULTING. AND AS MAYA ANGELOU VERY WISELY SAID, PEOPLE WILL FORGET WHAT YOU SAID. THEY'LL FORGET WHAT YOU DID, BUT THEY WILL NEVER FORGET HOW YOU MADE THEM FEEL. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A TIME FOR US TO SHOW PERSONAL PREFERENCES FOR ANY ONE PERSON, BUT I DO THINK MR. BATTEN WOULD MAKE A GREAT PERSON TO FILL IN THERE. ONE OTHER THING ON WHAT PAT DALPRA WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE CHIP FACTORY, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S ESTIMATED. [03:15:07] I LOOKED THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH OF ARTICLES. 100 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY TO COOL OFF THE METALS IN A CHIP FACTORY. AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO RECYCLE THAT, YOU'RE STILL LETTING A LOT OF TOXIC ELEMENTS INTO OUR INDIAN RIVER LAGOON AND OUR WATER SYSTEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE. RIGHT NOW, BREVARD COUNTY HAS THE HIGHEST TOXIC RATE IN OUR WATER IN THE ENTIRE STATE, 888, WHERE THE AVERAGE IS 0 TO 3. THERE'S ONLY ONE CITY THAT COMES UP, COUNTY THAT COMES CLOSE. IT'S ON THE GULF SIDE. BUT THIS FACTORY COULD SERIOUSLY DEBILITATE ANYTHING WE MIGHT HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. AND I THINK THAT I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF REGULATION AND SOME KIND OF PLAN, WHETHER IT BE BIOCHAR FILTERS OR WHATEVER, BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T FURTHER EXACERBATE THE QUALITY OF OUR WATER. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. MA'AM. SAILOR. ROBERT STENNIS, 1796 LINDBERGH DRIVE. JUST A COMMENT ON THE LADY WHO TALKED ABOUT THE WATER. I WOULD THINK I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN MINING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO CREATE A TAILINGS POND, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DROP THAT WASTEWATER IN THE DOWN THE RIVER. YOU JUST CAN'T DO THAT. SO GREAT COMMENTS FOR HER ON THAT SOME SERIOUS LOOKING AT INTO WE NEED TO DO I'M JUST GIVING YOU A FEEDBACK EARLY AND AND WHAT BILL BATTEN HAD SAID WE YOU ARE CREATING SUBURBAN GRIDLOCK. YOU ARE CREATING SUBURBAN CONGESTION. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OXYMORON, BUT WHAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THAT IS A REDUCTION IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE. STUCK IN TRAFFIC, TAKING 20 30 MINUTES TO GET OUT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET BEYOND LIGHT. YOU KNOW, WE KEEP DOING THIS, AND I'M TELLING YOU, A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I SEE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT QUALITY OF LIFE HERE. AND IT THE PERCEPTION IS THAT NOT BEING LISTENED TO AND WE CONTINUE ON THIS PATH. BILL MADE A GREAT POINT ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET SIMPLY IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND ALL OF THESE HUGE EXPENSES BETWEEN FIRE EQUIPMENT, POLICE STAFFING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND I REALLY THINK YOU NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU FEEDBACK FROM THE FOLKS. ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. THEY TRULY DO. I THINK WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD CITY COUNCIL. WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD STAFF, AND IT GUYS ARE WORKING HARD AND TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. BUT YOU'RE MISSING A BIG PICTURE HERE. PEOPLE ARE GETTING PISSED TO TO BE I'M BEING A STRAIGHT SHOOTER WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. QUALITY OF LIFE IS GOING DOWN AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT, I WANT TO GET OUT, GET OUT OF HERE AND GO AND GO SOMEPLACE ELSE. SO I PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU REALLY TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THAT BECAUSE THE IMPACT FEES ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.