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I LIKE TO CALL THE ORDER OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETING OF JULY 17TH, 2024.

[CALL TO ORDER]

IT'S 1:00 PM.

MY NAME IS JAMES BEADLE.

I'M THE PERSON THAT WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTIONS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS.

THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE, IDENTIFY THEMSELVES NAME AND ADDRESS AND PRESENT YOUR CASE OR YOUR JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE FINE.

THE CITY WILL THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT.

AND THEN AFTER THE CITY HAS PUT ON THEIR TESTIMONY, THE APPLICANT IS ALLOWED TO RESPOND TO THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO TESTIFY.

[SWEARING IN]

THE CLERK WILL NOW SWEAR YOU IN.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? THANK YOU. MAY BE SEATED.

OUR FIRST CASE TODAY IS EB 18181-17 AT 342 BRANDT AVENUE NORTHEAST.

[PETITION FOR RELIEF]

AND MR. THOMAS HAS SENT AN EMAIL ON JUNE 30TH ASKING TO BE RESCHEDULED AGAIN.

OKAY, I'LL ENTER AN ORDER.

CONTINUE. AND I THINK THIS IS THE THIRD ONE, SO IF IT WON'T BE HEARD AT THE NEXT HEARING, THE IT WILL BE DEEMED DISMISSED.

OKAY. OUR NEXT CASE TODAY IS CB 23404-22 AT 896 ROGER AVENUE NORTHWEST.

GOOD EVENING OR GOOD MORNING.

GOOD AFTERNOON AND I'M FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK MY MIND ON THIS SITUATION.

THIS IS MY SON, NICHOLAS.

HE'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME? FRANK CAMPANA.

I'M SORRY, FRANK CAMPANA.

OKAY. AND THIS IS NICHOLAS CAMPANA.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR 35 YEARS.

I'VE RAISED NINE CHILDREN HERE.

BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS COMMUNITY WITH THE SPORTS PROGRAMS AND COACHING AND SO FORTH.

AND AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD ANY SITUATION LIKE THIS.

THE SITUATION WAS THAT I HAD MY SON AND I BOUGHT A HOUSE TOGETHER, I FINANCED IT, HE WAS LIVING THERE.

HE HAD A ROOMMATE THAT HAD A BOAT.

HE GOT CAUGHT. ONE NOTICED THE ROOMMATE ON TO MOVE THE BOAT BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE DRIVEWAY.

SO WE PUT IT TO WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS THE RIGHT WAY, AND WE PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE MAKING SURE THAT WAS BEHIND THE FACE OF THE HOUSE.

WE HAD NO IDEA THAT WE WERE IN VIOLATION.

DIDN'T GET ANY KIND OF NOTICE OR ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SAW THAT WE WERE IN VIOLATION UNTIL MY SON WENT TO TRY TO GET A LOAN AND FOUND OUT THERE WAS A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

AND IF WE HAD KNOWN ONCE WE KNEW THAT THERE WAS A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT AWAY, WE MOVED THE BOAT AND MADE SURE THAT WE WERE ONCE AGAIN COMPLIANT.

BUT WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THE BOAT HAD BEEN SITTING THERE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR WITHOUT US UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE IN VIOLATION.

I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ON THE CORNER LOT THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A FENCE COVERING UP.

INSTEAD. WE JUST THOUGHT THAT, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS BEHIND THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AND THAT WE WERE COMPLIANT AND I'M ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS ON THIS LOAN. I MEAN THE MONEY THAT WE BOUGHT THIS HOUSE WAS, WAS MONEY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY MY MOTHER WHEN SHE DIED.

AND I JUST WANT TO BE I WANT TO HONOR HER IN THE FACT THAT WE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS THIS IS A BIG ECONOMIC SETBACK FOR ME AS KNOWING I THINK IT'S LIKE A $50,000, YOU KNOW, $50 A DAY.

AND WE WANT TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.

THAT WOULD BE LIKE SHOOTING MYSELF IN THE FOOT IF I THOUGHT THAT I WAS NOT COMPLIANT AND I WAS GETTING A $50 A DAY.

FINE. FINE.

CAN I ASSUME THE BOAT'S BEEN DEALT? YES, SIR. OH. IT'S GONE OKAY.

IT'S NOT EVEN ON THE PROPERTY NO MORE.

OKAY. AND WHAT IS IT YOU'RE ASKING FOR ME TO DO? I'M JUST ASKING FOR A COMPLETE FORGIVENESS.

EXCEPT FOR THE EXPENSES THAT THE CITY THAT THE TAXPAYERS THEMSELVES HAD ACQUIRED BY PUTTING A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM OUR TAXPAYERS THAT THAT WORK HARD.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN SUCH AN ECONOMIC BIND.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY COULD GET THROUGH THIS.

RAISING A FAMILY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. CITY.

SABRINA PERKINS SENIOR OFFICER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN A REDUCTION OF THE FINE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH IS $750.

THE CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR 13% OF THE TOTAL LIEN TO BE PAID.

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THE TOTAL LIEN WAS $24,396.44.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE PERCENTAGE IS $3,171.54, WITH THE ADDITIONAL 750.

ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, FOR A TOTAL OF $3,921.54.

DO I GET TO RESPOND TO THAT? YES. AS I INDICATED, THE APPLICANT HAD THE RIGHT TO RESPOND TO THE CITY'S TESTIMONY.

LET ME EXPRESS A FEW THINGS ABOUT THIS CITY.

NUMBER ONE, YOU COULD ASK MY NAME.

GO UP TO THE THE CHIEF OF POLICE HERE.

I WAS PULLED OVER IN THIS CITY.

OKAY? AND IT WAS A FALSE IDENTIFICATION.

THEY BROUGHT ME TO JAIL.

I WENT TO JAIL.

MY CHILDREN HAD TO GO THROUGH ABUSE.

I RELEASED THEM FROM A SERIOUS FINE.

IT WAS. COULD HAVE BEEN SUBSTANTIAL.

THERE WAS A VIDEO TAPE OF THEM BEATING ME.

I'M. I'M APPALLED AT THE FACT THAT I WOULD EVEN HAVE TO IF I COULD FORGIVE THEM FOR WHAT THEY DID TO MY FAMILY.

THE LEAST THIS COURT CAN DO HERE IS TO FORGIVE ME.

AND IT WAS MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL THAN HAVING A BOAT ON THE SIDE OF A PROPERTY.

$3,000 FOR A GUY THAT'S RAISING NINE CHILDREN AND 17 GRANDCHILDREN.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

I MEAN, THAT'S RIDICULOUS THAT IT COST SOMEBODY TO GO OUT THERE.

WHY DIDN'T THEY JUST PUT A STICKER, A PURPLE STICKER ON THERE AND SAY, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION? I HAD NO IDEA I WAS IN VIOLATION.

HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE A VIOLATION.

WHY WOULD WE SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT? NO ONE WOULD DO THAT.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PERSON IN THIS ROOM WOULD SAY, HEY, LET LET ME ACQUIRE A $50,000 DEBT UPON OURSELVES.

I MEAN, DO YOU KNOW, LET'S THINK ABOUT THE SITUATION ECONOMICALLY OUR COUNTRY IS IN RIGHT NOW, AND YOU WANT TO PUT A $3,000 DEBT ON ME.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

WELL, PLEASE, I'M ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS.

THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR, I UNDERSTAND.

I'M. I'M BY THE MERCIES OF GOD, SIR.

PLEASE. MY QUESTION IS, WHEN THE CITY SENDS OUT A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, THEY ALSO SEND A NOTICE OF A HEARING THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT WAS A HEARING OFFICER OR THE BOARD.

WHY DIDN'T YOU ATTEND THE HEARING? I NEVER HAD RECEIVED THAT.

EVER. DID YOU EVER RECEIVE THAT ANYTHING, SON? DO YOU HAVE ANY? DO YOU HAVE.

DO YOU DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT YOU SENT SOMETHING OUT, LIKE WITH A SIGNED SIGNATURE SAID WE RECEIVED THIS AND WE SAW THAT WE'RE IN VIOLATION.

WE REMOVED THE BOAT OUT OF THE DRIVEWAY AND PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

I'M NOT FUSSING WITH YOU ABOUT THAT.

THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU, SIR.

YES, SIR.

WHEN YOU MOVE THE BOAT, DID YOU INQUIRE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT HAD BEEN MOVED IN THE RIGHT PLACE? WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ALL OUR NEIGHBORS HAD THEIR BOATS ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, AND WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE TO IT.

I REMEMBER COMING HERE BECAUSE I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY FOR 35 YEARS, THAT THEY CHANGED THE CODE AND MADE SURE THAT THE BOATS WERE BEHIND THE FACE OF THE HOUSE THAT THE BOAT HAD.

I UNDERSTAND, BUT SO THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS NO.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER REDUCING THE FINE TO $1,000.

THANK YOU. THE THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF 750.

I'M GOING TO ADD ON ANOTHER $250.

JUST FOR HOW LONG IT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE.

AND NORMALLY THE ORDER PROVIDES FOR PAYMENT WITHIN 30 DAYS.

ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT? YES. OKAY.

THAT'S A YES. YES, SIR.

OKAY. THEN AN ORDER WILL BE ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT.

THANK YOU. OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS KB 179781719365-18 AND 19754-192551 CHATHAM WAY NORTHEAST.

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GOOD AFTERNOON SIR.

JIM CLINE 2551 CHATHAM WAY.

HOW DO YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? CLEAN. LIKE CALVIN, BUT LESS MONEY.

YEAH. AND WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE APPLICANT? WHICH IS SUNCOAST RENOVATION? OH, I'M THE OWNER. OKAY.

SORRY. OKAY, YOU CAN PROCEED.

A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO, I GUESS WE GO BACK TO THE RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING.

I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THROUGH A TAX DEED AUCTION.

MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS VERY FIRST ONE I DID, AND IT WAS VERY.

FIRST ONE I DID WAS HERE IN PALM BAY.

MY UNDERSTANDING WAS ALL DEBT WAS WIPED OUT.

WENT. YEAH, I KNOW THAT NOW.

ALL DEBT WAS WIPED OUT ONCE YOU BUY IT.

MORTGAGES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WELL, COME TO MY SURPRISE, IT'S NOT.

SO THROUGH WORKING WITH CAROL, WORKING WITH EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN HERE FINALLY WAS ABLE TO GET THE THE SURPLUS FROM THE COUNTY.

IT KIND OF FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS FOR A FEW MINUTES THERE, I GUESS.

AND THEN IT FINALLY GOT SENT OVER.

ABOUT $17,000 WORTH OF IT.

6000 WENT TO PAY OFF UTILITIES.

THE OTHER 11,000 WENT TO CODE TO PAY A PORTION OF THE SUBSTANTIAL DEBT THAT THAT PROPERTY HAD INCURRED.

ALL THE ALL THE CODE VIOLATIONS WERE OBVIOUSLY BEFORE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY, I'M JUST ASKING FOR A SUBSTANTIAL REDUCTION IN THIS.

WHAT I HAVE FROM THE NOTES THAT I HAVE IS THAT I GUESS AT ONE POINT IT WAS $125 LAWN MOWING FEE AND THEN TWO AT THAT TIME, CAYCE 19, 365. ON THE NEXT ONE, THAT WAS 17 NINE SEVEN, EIGHT.

IT'S $436 OF A LAWN MOWING FEE AND 19 754 $437 LAWN MOWING FEE.

SUBSEQUENTLY, THE FIRST ONE WITH FINES TOTALS $34,000, THE SECOND ONE IS 57 AND THE THIRD WAS 11,600, WHICH GIVES ME A TOTAL OF JUST OVER $52,408, WHICH $998 OF IT IS ACTUAL WORK DONE ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE REST OF IT'S INCURRED FINES.

SINCE $11,000 ALREADY WENT TO CODE, I'M KIND OF HOPING THAT IF EVERYBODY SEE FIT, IF I COULD PAY THE THE AMOUNT THAT ACTUAL LABOR.

THAT'D BE REALLY NICE, BUT WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SABRINA PERKINS, SENIOR OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN A REDUCTION TO THE LIEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH IS $750.

CITY IS ALSO SEEKING A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL LIEN TO BE PAID.

DO YOU WANT THESE BROKEN DOWN INTO EACH? THERE'S THREE CASES. YEAH, PROBABLY BE OKAY UNLESS THE PERCENTAGES ARE THE SAME.

LET'S SEE.

NOW THEY'RE NOT.

OKAY. THEN I NEED A BREAKDOWN.

OKAY. CASE NUMBER 1797817.

THE CITY PAID WAS PAID BY.

THE CITY WAS $400 WITH THE ADMIN FEE OF 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $1,150.

THAT ONE. THEY'RE NOT SEEKING A REDUCTION BECAUSE OF THE LOW AMOUNT.

THE OTHER ONE IS CAYCE 1936518.

IT'S $150 CITY COST.

THEN THE FINES WAS $36,605.79.

REDUCING IT BY 12% FOR A TOTAL OF $4,392.69 PLUS THE 150 ADMIN FEE.

TOTAL ON. THAT'S $4,542.69.

AND THE LAST ONE IS 1975419.

THE CITY COST WAS $524.

THE LEAN AMOUNT IS $12,757.38, REDUCED BY 14%.

$1,786.03, PLUS THE COST OF $524, FOR A TOTAL OF $2,310.03. SO THE CITY IN TOTAL IS ASKING FOR $8,002.72 FOR ALL THREE CASES.

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SO THERE'S ROUGHLY 17% OF THE ENTIRE COST OF THE FINE.

WOULD THE COURT SEE FIT IF I WAS TO PAY 10% OF THAT, WHICH WOULD BE A REDUCTION OF ABOUT 2000 SOMETHING MORE WHICH IT WOULD END UP BEING 52, 40, I THINK.

OR LOWER. SO IN THE 8000 FIGURE THAT YOU PROVIDED IS THAT THAT INCLUDES THE $750.

CORRECT. OKAY.

WHAT'S THE 750? WELL, ON ON TWO OF THE CASES, THE 750 ADMIN COSTS WERE WERE DROPPED.

OKAY. SO IT'S ADMIN COST.

YEAH. THE ACTUAL CITY COST IS 150 ON ONE CASE AND 524 ON THE OTHER.

AND THEN 400 IS THE TOTAL COST.

HOW SOON AFTER YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY DID YOU RESOLVE THE CODE? THERE WAS NO CODE WHEN I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.

THERE WERE NO LIENS. NO.

THERE WAS IT WAS.

THERE WAS A MOBILE HOME ALREADY ON THE ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT GOT BURNT DOWN, I GUESS SOMEWHERE 2000.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN.

AND THE CITY HAD TO COME IN AND CLEAN THAT UP.

THIS IS LIKE ALL BEFORE ME.

AND THEN IT WAS MOWING MOWING MOWING, MOWING.

SO AS SOON AS I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY I STARTED DEVELOPING IT.

OH, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW IS THAT IT WAS A BLANK PIECE OF PROPERTY.

I'VE NOW INVESTED INCLUDING THE, THE PROPERTY VALUE ITSELF, WHICH IS ABOUT $21,000.

IT'S $150,000 I'VE PUT INTO THAT PROPERTY.

THERE'S ALREADY A HOME ON IT NOW WHICH WILL ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY INCREASE TAX REVENUE IN THE CITY.

AND THE I'M GETTING BEYOND MYSELF.

BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO SEEING WHAT THE PROJECT WE WERE DOING WENT WITH THE SAME COMPANY THAT I USE, AND THEY'RE PUTTING ANOTHER HOME IN THAT DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S JUST MAKING IT BETTER.

BUT YEAH, ALL THE CODES WERE DONE WHEN I BOUGHT IT TO MAKE THAT A SHORT STORY LONG.

ALL RIGHT, MOM, BASED ON ALL THE ITEMS I'M SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING WHAT THE CURRENT VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS OR WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUE WAS PRIOR TO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE PUT ON THE PROPERTY AND THE TESTIMONY.

I'M GOING TO REDUCE IT TO THE 5240.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS 30 DAYS SUFFICIENT TIME WHEREVER YOU GUYS WANT TO PLAY RIGHT NOW? WELL, CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW.

WHERE THERE'LL BE AN ORDER.

THERE'LL BE AN ORDER ENTERED. YOU CAN CALL CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THIS HEARING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BEADLE. YES, SIR. MR. BEADLE, JUST TO CONFIRM, $5,240 EVEN.

CORRECT. OKAY.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CEB 23016-22 AT 2351 SHENANDOAH ROAD NORTHEAST.

YES. AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JARED COOPER.

I LIVE AT 3836 HILL ROAD, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

32907. I'M THE OWNER OF 2135 SHENANDOAH ROAD.

I'VE LIVED IN THIS CITY SINCE 2005.

I BOUGHT MULTIPLE HOUSES IN THIS AREA, AND I'M VERY ACTIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE SITUATION THAT OCCURRED IS.

EVIDENTLY THERE WERE SOME TREES THAT WERE OVERGROWING THE ROAD BACK IN 2022.

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THE CITY SENT OUT A NOTICE AND ALSO YOUR HEARINGS ABOUT THIS BACK THEN.

THE PROBLEM WAS THE CITY SENT THESE NOTICES TO 2081 REDWOOD CIRCLE, A PROPERTY I HADN'T OWNED OR LIVED IN SINCE 2018.

SO I HAD NO IDEA THAT THERE WAS A VIOLATION OR ANY OF THESE ISSUES, AND THAT THERE WAS THIS $50 A DAY ACCRUAL OCCURRING ON THIS PROPERTY.

PLUS WHATEVER INTERESTS THAT THE CITY WAS PUTTING ON RECENTLY, I WAS LOOKING AT REFINANCING SOME OTHER PROPERTIES. AND BY SHEER LUCK THIS CAME UP AND YOU KNOW, THE DISCOVERY OF THE TITLE SEARCHES AND ONCE I WAS AWARE OF THIS, I HAD THIS ISSUE FIXED WITHIN FIVE DAYS.

I THEN PROMPTLY REACHED OUT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THEN WAITED ALMOST TWO MONTHS TO GET TO THIS POINT IN TIME TO GET THIS RESOLVED.

JUST GOING BY WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED, I GET IT.

THE CITY WANTS THEIR 750 ADMINISTRATION FEE.

BUT I'M ASKING THAT ALL OF THIS OTHER FEES ATTACHED TO IT SHOULD BE REMOVED.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? SABRINA PERKINS, SENIOR CODE OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY CITY, HAS NO OBJECTION IN A REDUCTION IN THE LIEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH IS $750.

CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF 12% ON THE TOTAL LEAN TO BE PAID.

TOTAL LIEN WAS $31,949.90.

THAT WOULD BE $3,833.90, PLUS THE 750 ADMIN FEE, FOR A TOTAL OF $4,583.99.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER? DO YOU WANT TO ADD? I MEAN, MY POSITION REALLY ISN'T CHANGING ON THIS.

THE 12%.

I HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS HAD OCCURRED BECAUSE THE MAILINGS WERE SENT TO A PROPERTY I HADN'T OCCUPIED OR OWNED SINCE 2018. AS SOON AS I FOUND OUT, I CORRECTED IT IN A VERY TIMELY MANNER.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE I CAN SAY HERE.

HERE'S PART OF THE ISSUE.

AND YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST PERSON THAT THIS HAS COME UP WITH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS OR NOT.

THE CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHETHER IT'S THE CITY OR ANY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THEY OBTAIN THE OWNER'S INFORMATION OFF THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE OR THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE.

THAT'S WHAT THE STATUTE PROVIDES FOR.

AND THEY SEND ALL THE NOTICES TO THOSE ADDRESSES.

AND I'M SENT A PRINTOUT IN, IN HERE THAT THEY JUST SENT ME.

AND THE REDWOOD CIRCLE ADDRESS IS STILL LISTED AS THE MAILING ADDRESS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO SO YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE ADDRESS WITH YOU.

WHEN YOU ORIGINALLY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY, YOU MUST HAVE PROVIDED THE REDWOOD ADDRESS AS THE MAILING ADDRESS FOR THE PROPERTY.

AND WHEN YOU SOLD, WHEN YOU MOVED, OR WHATEVER YOU DID WITH THAT PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THAT WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER.

OTHERWISE, ANY LIKE I SAID, ANY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY ONLY HAS TO LOOK AS FAR AS WHAT'S IN THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OR THE TAX COLLECTOR'S RECORDS.

SO TWO THINGS TO THAT.

YOUR STATUE STATES THAT YES, YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT IT ALSO STATES YOU CAN SEEK OTHER AVENUES TO LOOK UP THE ADDRESS.

WELL I'M NOT I CAN'T GET INTO THAT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT MY JOB IS.

I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THERE THEY THERE IS MORE THAN ONE OPTION.

AGREED. THERE'S A PROVISION IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE NOTICES? I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A CERTAIN OBLIGATION ON A PROPERTY OWNER TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPER MAILING ADDRESS.

THAT'S ALL I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU.

I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSERTION.

HOWEVER, I HAVE FOUND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER RECORDS.

SO IF YOU IF YOU ARE ALREADY USING A SYSTEM THAT MIGHT NOT BE PERFECT, WHICH OTHER CITIES IN THIS COUNTY PURPOSELY DO NOT USE? BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER FOR THESE INSTANCES, SPECIFICALLY BOTH MELBOURNE AND WEST MELBOURNE?

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I GET YOUR POSITION, BUT THE FACT IS.

WELL, IF I COULD AFFIX, I WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN VIOLATION IF I KNEW THERE WAS AN ISSUE.

AND I'VE BEEN NOTIFIED.

AS SOON AS I KNEW THERE WAS AN ISSUE, I FIXED THE SITUATION.

I'M NOT FUSSING WITH YOU.

I'M JUST SUGGESTING TO YOU YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE MAILING ADDRESS THAT YOU HAVE WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE.

OTHERWISE THAT WOULD HAVE THIS ISSUE WOULD NEVER HAVE COME UP.

THAT'S ALL I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING I AM WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS TO FIX.

I'VE FOUND MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH THEIR SYSTEM.

I'M ON MY NAME. I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH YOU.

I'M MERELY SUGGESTING THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT SOMETHING TO ARGUE WITH ME.

SO. AND I'M NOT.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU I AM.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW.

I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK INTO.

THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

I AGREE, AND IT'S SOMETHING I AM WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON AS WE SPEAK.

OKAY. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE FINE.

I'M GOING TO REDUCE IT TO I'M GOING TO GIVE THE CITY THEIR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS TO 750.

ALSO. AN ADDITIONAL $500.

I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE FINE TO $1,250.

AND AS I INDICATED TO THE PRIOR PEOPLE CAN IS THAT A PROBLEM WITH YOU PAYING THAT WITHIN 30 DAYS? I CAN PAY IT RIGHT NOW IF REQUIRED.

AND THEN THERE'LL BE AN ORDER ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT.

ALL RIGHT, SO I CALL YOU GUYS TOMORROW.

SOUNDS GOOD. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS KB 2324722 AT 514 JUSTINE AVENUE NORTHWEST.

ARE YOU SURE? OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON. EXCUSE ME.

GEORGE. BORIS. ESQUIRE.

I'M ON. EXCUSE ME. I REPRESENT 514 JUSTINE LAND TRUST.

MY OFFICE IS LOCATED ON 1679 GARDEN AVENUE, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

32934. YOUR HONOR, MY CLIENT ACQUIRED THIS PROPERTY.

HE THEN EVENTUALLY WE RENOVATED IT AND LEASED THE PROPERTY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE TENANTS AT THE TIME, HE LEASED IT TO MANAGED TO ACQUIRE A NUMBER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.

TRIED TO WORK WITH THEM IN ORDER TO GET THOSE RESOLVED.

THE TENANTS WERE REFUSED TO DO SO BASICALLY, AND KEPT THE PILING ISSUES ON THAT.

SO HE THEN TRIED TO EVICT THEM.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE EVICTION PROCESS TOOK SOME TIME.

AS OF APRIL THIS YEAR, THEY WERE FINALLY EVICTED.

MY CLIENT REACHED OUT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, STARTED WORKING ON THE PROCESS.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CLEARANCE OF THE PROPERTY IN MAY, AND THEN THERE WAS SOME, I BELIEVE MAYBE SOME SMALL ADDITIONAL THINGS.

AND THEN IT WAS CLEARED AGAIN LAST WEEK, EXCEPT FOR THIS HEARING.

I BELIEVE THERE'S APPROXIMATELY THREE, $31,000 IN FINES.

WE WOULD ASK FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE.

EXCUSE ME. PLUS 10% AS MY CLIENTS BASICALLY TRYING TO SELL THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY DOES HAVE IT UNDER CONTRACT.

THE PROPERTY, UNFORTUNATELY NEEDS TO BE RENOVATED AGAIN DUE TO THE ACTIONS OF THE CLIENT, THE TENANTS.

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SO.

THANK YOU. WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? SPRING PARK AND SENIOR CODE OFFICERS, CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN A REDUCTION OF THE LIEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH IS $750.

THE CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF 13% OF THE TOTAL LIEN TO BE PAID, TOTALING WAS $28,749.83.

THE REDUCTION WOULD BE $3,737.48, PLUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $4,487.48.

YOUR HONOR, WE WOULD JUST REQUEST MAYBE IF THE.

I'M SORRY. WE WOULD JUST REQUEST THE MATCH.

WE CAN SEE REDUCING JUST THE $4,000 EVEN.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER REDUCING IT TO $4,000.

AND IT'S 30 DAYS SUFFICIENT TIME.

YES. OKAY.

THAT'LL BE AN ORDER UNDER TO THAT EFFECT.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

HAVE A GOOD DAY. OUR NEXT CASE, ITEM NUMBER SIX, IS A PHONE CONFERENCE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THAT TO THE END.

SO OUR NEXT CASE WILL BE HEARD WITH CB 2348623 AT 790 ARAGON AVENUE NORTHEAST.

GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR.

MY NAME IS HOLLY. SPEAK CLOSER TO THE MIC.

EXCUSE ME, MY NAME IS HOLLY ALSTOTT.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENT, CAROL RICHARDSON.

SHE IS THE PERSONAL REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE ESTATE OF EUGENE CLEMENS, WHO WAS THE OWNER OF ARAGON BEFORE HE PASSED.

I'M SORRY. COULD YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME AGAIN? I'LL START. ALS T O T T OKAY.

I'M SORRY. GO.

GO AHEAD. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CODE VIOLATION WAS OVERGROWN YARD.

MR. CLEMENS HE WAS A RETIRED MILITARY VET WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY AS A CAREER AIR FORCE VETERAN.

AND HE LIKE A LOT OF MANY LIKE MANY, MANY, MANY VETERANS HAD MENTAL ILLNESS.

HE I DON'T THINK HE WAS CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE CODE VIOLATION.

HE PASSED AWAY.

IN DECEMBER OF 2023, AND HIS SISTER, MISS RICHARDSON, HAS BEEN TRYING TO PUT HIS LIFE BACK TOGETHER AND PIECE THINGS TOGETHER BECAUSE HE LIKED HIS ISOLATION.

AND SO SHE DID FIND IN HIS PAPERWORK A COPY OF THE CODE VIOLATION, AND SHE HAD ALREADY BROUGHT THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

SO WE'RE ASKING THAT THE FINES BE REDUCED POSSIBLY TO JUST THE ADMIN FEES.

OKAY. OBVIOUSLY, SINCE MISS RICHARDSON'S NOT HERE, BUT YOU SAID SHE BROUGHT THE PROPERTY INTO COMPLIANCE.

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?

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AS SOON AS SHE GOT HER LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION.

SHE LIVES IN GEORGIA.

SHE'S ELDERLY AS WELL.

SO SHE GOT HER LETTERS OF ADMINISTRATION IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.

YES. OKAY.

AND THE CITY'S POSITION, PLEASE.

SABRINA PARK AND SENIOR CODE OFFICER, CITY OF POMPEII.

THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN A REDUCTION OF THE OF THE LIEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH IS $750.

CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF 14% OF THE TOTAL LIEN TO BE PAID.

THE LIEN WAS $11,831.12.

THE REDUCTION WOULD BE $1,656.36, WITH THE ADMIN COST OF 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $2,406.36. WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE? I HAVE DIFFERENT INFORMATION ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF THE LIEN.

I'M SORRY, I HAD DIFFERENT INFORMATION ABOUT THE AMOUNT.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE LIEN.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT THE SAME THING.

THE THE LIEN AMOUNTS THAT WE TALK ABOUT TODAY IS WHATEVER THE INTEREST IS THROUGH TODAY.

OKAY. OKAY.

I WAS JUST TOLD, I THINK, VIA EMAIL THAT THE THE LIEN WAS SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER.

WAS WHAT SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER? THAN 11,000.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS 24.

YEAH. WAIT A MINUTE. NO, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S 24,485 88.

OH, I'M SORRY, I'M IN THE WRONG.

THE WRONG ONE. THIS ONE IS FOR 790 ARAGON AVENUE.

OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES.

YES. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO THE AMOUNT ON THAT ONE IS THE LIEN WAS $24,485.88.

13% REDUCTION FOR THAT WOULD MAKE IT $3,183.16, PLUS THE ADMIN COST OF 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $3,933.16. WELL, I APPRECIATE THE REDUCTION.

WE'RE ASKING JUST TO COVER ADMIN FEES AND ANY COSTS.

THIS MONEY IS GOING TO MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN MISS RICHARDSON'S GOLDEN YEARS.

IT'S GOING TO CHANGE HER RETIREMENT FROM STRUGGLING TO GET BY TO ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO ENJOY IT.

I WILL, I WILL TELL YOU THAT.

I MEAN, I'M CONFLICTED ON CERTAIN LEVEL BECAUSE MISS RICHARDSON IS NOT HERE.

SO EVERYTHING YOU'RE BASICALLY TELLING ME IS HEARSAY.

SHE'S OUT OF STATE, I UNDERSTAND THAT, OKAY.

I MEAN, WE HAVE PHONE CALL, TWO THINGS.

SO SET UP.

SO I MEAN, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, SHE, SHE WROTE, COMPLIED RELATIVELY QUICKLY, ALTHOUGH THE CITY DIDN'T CLEAR IT FOR THREE MONTHS AFTER.

APPARENTLY SHE DID THE WORK FOR IT.

I HAVE A COPY OF MR. CLEMENS DEATH CERTIFICATE WITH CAUSE LISTED.

I DON'T REALLY NEED THAT. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT HE'S HE'S PASSED AWAY.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

AT THE END. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF MITIGATING FACTORS IN HERE.

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BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROPERTY WAS IN THE CONDITION THAT WAS IN FOR OVER A YEAR.

DID THE CITY INCUR ANY EXPENSES TO TRY AND REMEDY ANY OF THIS? NO, THEY DID NOT CUT IT.

WELL. I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE LEAN TO $2,250.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

AND IS 30 DAYS SUFFICIENT TIME? IT IS OKAY.

THERE'LL BE AN ORDER FORWARDED TO YOU.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CV 20088-19 AT 1041 BRADDOCK AVENUE SOUTHEAST.

HI, I'M PAUL SEITZ.

I'M AT 1041 BRADDOCK AT 1041 BRADDOCK AVENUE SOUTHEAST.

I'M TRYING TO GET THE LEAN THAT I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO SELL THE HOUSE.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A LIEN TRYING TO GET THAT REDUCED OR SOMETHING.

YEAH. SO WHAT'S THE BASIS FOR YOUR REQUEST? TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, BUT I CAN'T SELL IT BECAUSE THE LIEN IS.

WOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT I'M GETTING IT SOLD FOR.

WHICH MEANS I'M I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO DO AT THAT POINT BECAUSE.

SO YOU'RE SELLING THE HOUSE FOR $23,000? NO, IT'S.

BUT THERE'S OTHER LIENS ON IT TOO.

THAT. OH, YEAH.

SO I'M SELLING IT FOR 170.

BUT THIS PUT ME OVER.

IT WAS LIKE BY LIKE 7000 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO IT'D BE ACTUALLY HAD TO TAKE A LOAN OUT TO SELL THE HOUSE.

SO WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY? APPARENTLY IT WAS SOMETHING WITH SOME OVERGROWN STUFF.

ACCORDING TO THE ACCORDING TO THE ORDER ENTERED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, IT WAS TALL GRASS AND WEEDS AND ACCUMULATION OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

OKAY. AND ALSO THE STORAGE OF A JUNK OR DISCARDED VEHICLE.

OKAY, WELL, THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, I'M SURE.

WELL, I KNOW THAT'S BEEN TAKEN CARE OF.

MY QUESTION IS, IS WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY IT WAS IN THAT CONDITION FOR TWO YEARS? I HAVE I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IN THAT CONDITION FOR TWO YEARS.

I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

OKAY. DID YOU LIVE AT BRADDOCK? YEAH. YEAH, I LIVED THERE.

I WAS IN THE NOTICE WOULD HAVE BEEN SENT THERE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.

YEAH, WELL, I NEVER NONE OF THEM.

NONE OF MY MAIL EVER GOT TO ME BY THE TIME I GOT TO IT, BECAUSE MY WIFE AND OTHER PEOPLE WAS ALWAYS GETTING THE MAIL.

ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS, JENNIFER BARKER IS A CO-OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

YEAH. AND WHO'S THAT? THAT'S MY EX-WIFE.

OKAY. WHEN DID YOU GET DIVORCED? AND AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.

OKAY. WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? IT'S BEEN WORKING. SENIOR OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT, CITY OF PALM BAY.

CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REDUCTION OF THE LIEN.

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH IS $750.

CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR 13% OF THE TOTAL LIEN TO BE PAID.

TOTAL LIEN WAS $23,363, AND $0.04 REDUCTION WOULD BE $3,037.19, WITH THE ADMIN COST 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $3,787.19.

OKAY. OKAY.

YOUR RESPONSE? I COULDN'T ACCEPT THAT.

YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.

OKAY. AND IT'S 30 DAYS.

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OKAY. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. THERE'LL BE AN ORDER ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CB 22400-21 AT 1350 CHERRY ROAD, SOUTHWEST.

HI. HOW ARE YOU DOING? GOOD. I'M JUST HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF MY COMPANY.

SENT TO. OVER.

SORRY. A REQUEST FOR A CONSIDERATION.

AND WHAT'S YOUR. WHAT'S YOUR NAME? KIM. LEWIS.

OKAY. GO AHEAD.

IT LOOKS FOR THE EMAIL I RECEIVED THERE ASKING IF IT COULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE REDUCED TO 9111.57.

THEY'RE ASKING IT TO BE REDUCED TO THAT OR THAT'S.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? SPRING PARK AND SENIOR OFFICER, CODE ENFORCEMENT, CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN THE REDUCTION OF THE LIEN TO THAT AMOUNT.

YES. OKAY, THEN I'LL ENTER AN ORDER TO THAT EFFECT.

AND IT'S 30 DAYS.

SUFFICIENT TIME.

MORE THAN ENOUGH. YES, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THERE WILL BE AN ORDER ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM.

HAVE A GREAT DAY. YOU TOO.

OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS CB 19157188501 EMPIRE AVENUE NORTHEAST.

HELLO, MY NAME IS DONOVAN CAMURATI.

I AM COMING HERE BECAUSE I RECENTLY PURCHASED 501 EMPIRE AVENUE.

AND WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY THERE WAS JUNK AND SCRAP AND DEBRIS IN THE FRONT AND SIDE AND BACK YARD.

SO MUCH TO WHERE YOU COULD BARELY SEE THE GRASS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN PICTURES OF THE PROPERTY, BUT IT WAS PRETTY BAD.

I ONCE I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY I HAD IT CLEANED UP WITHIN 48 HOURS.

TO WHERE? THERE WAS NO JUNK.

THE FENCE WAS REMOVED.

THAT WAS ON THERE AS WELL.

AND THE JUNK VEHICLE WAS TAKEN OUT BEFORE I BOUGHT IT, SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, I HAD IT CLEANED UP WITHIN 48 HOURS OF PURCHASING IT AND I WOULD REQUEST FOR A FULL FORGIVENESS.

I THINK THE PROPERTY WAS ACCRUING FINES FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS SINCE 2018.

BEFORE THAT, AND OBVIOUSLY NOTHING WAS WAS GETTING DONE WITH IT.

BUT LIKE I SAID, ONCE I BOUGHT IT, IT WAS CLEANED UP RIGHT AWAY.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? SABRINA PARKINS, SENIOR OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN THE REDUCTION OF THE LANE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED OF $750.

CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR 4% OF THE TOTAL LANE TO BE PAID.

TOTAL LANE WAS $159,359.41 FOR REDUCTION OF $6,374.38, WITH THE ADMIN FEE OF 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $7,124.38.

AND YOUR RESPONSE? YOU SAID IT WAS JUST OVER $7,000.

CORRECT. OKAY. REALISTICALLY, I COULD NOT PAY $7,000 AT THE MOMENT.

I DO HAVE ABOUT $3,000 THAT I COULD PUT TOWARDS THIS.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DOABLE? ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, LIKE I SAID, MY ONLY DOING WITH THIS PROPERTY WAS MAKING IT NICER.

FOR THESE LINES DISCLOSED WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY? THEY WERE.

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I'M GETTING AN ORDER, REDUCING THE LEAN AMOUNT TO $4,750.

A NORMALLY I GIVE 30 DAYS TO PAY IT.

CAN YOU PAY IT IN 30 DAYS? 30. YEAH, I COULD MAKE IT HAPPEN.

OKAY, THEN I'LL BE 30 DAYS.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YES, SIR. NEXT CASE WE HEARD IS CB 20367-20 AT 2180 JULIEN AVENUE NORTHEAST.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CLIFF RIPPERGER. MY BUSINESS ADDRESS IS 2101 WAVERLY PLACE.

ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF WHITE BIRD.

WE REPRESENT THE RESPONDENT, PUZZLE BOX ACADEMY PROPERTY HOLDING, LLC.

THIS WAS A 2020 CASE FOR NO PERMIT FOR AN HVAC UNIT.

THE PROPERTY ADDRESS AT WHICH THE AC UNIT WAS INSTALLED IS 20 180 JULIEN AVENUE NORTHEAST.

THE FUNCTION OF THE FACILITY IS A PRIVATE EDUCATIONAL FACILITY SERVING SPECIAL NEEDS AND LEARNING DISABILITY STUDENTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A. I DON'T KNOW IF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HAS A COPY OF THE LETTERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND THE PETITION FOR RELIEF THAT WE FILED.

IF YOU DON'T, I HAVE COPIES.

BUT ESSENTIALLY THE THE THE HISTORY HERE IS THAT IN THE CASE FILE DOCUMENTS THIS I HAVE THESE AS WELL.

THE ADDRESS THAT SERVED AS THE PRIMARY MAILING ADDRESS FOR THE LLC WAS 1855 WEST HIBISCUS BOULEVARD IN 2020. EARLY IN 2020, THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD BY THE RESPONDENT TO ANOTHER OWNER.

PRIOR TO THE NOTICES GOING OUT, IF YOU LOOK IN THE IF YOU LOOK IN THE CASE FILE, YOU'LL SEE THAT I THINK ALL OF THE MAILED OUT NOTICES OF THE VIOLATION ITSELF WERE MARKED AS RETURN TO SENDER.

NONE OF THEM WERE ACTUALLY RECEIVED BY THE RESPONDENT.

THERE IS AN AFFIDAVIT OF POSTING OF THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE NOT DISPUTING THAT AFFIDAVIT OR THAT THE PROPERTY WAS POSTED.

FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE RESPONDENTS DID NOT SEE THE POSTING.

THE ALSO IN THE PACKAGE THAT WE SUBMITTED WITH THE PETITION FOR RELIEF IS A LETTER FROM OUR HVAC CONTRACTOR.

IF YOU CAN BRING YOURSELF BACK TO 2020.

AND IT'S NOT EASY TO DO NOW, BUT YOU'LL RECALL THAT THIS IS IN APPROXIMATELY I BELIEVE, JUNE TIME FRAME OF 2020 OR SLIGHTLY THERE AROUND WHEN COVID WAS IN FULL SWING AND THE WE WERE UNDER A STATE OF EMERGENCY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LETTER FROM OUR CONTRACTOR WHO WAS A LICENSED CONTRACTOR, A COASTAL CLIMATE EXPERTS.

JOSEPH DITTMAR IS THE PRESIDENT.

HE'S WITH ME TODAY AS WELL.

THE THE CONTRACTOR BELIEVED THAT THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO PULL AN ACTUAL PERMIT FOR THE HVAC UNIT BEING INSTALLED.

IT WAS INSTALLED.

THERE WAS NO INCREASED OR HEIGHTENED THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE.

IT WAS A LICENSED CONTRACTOR INSTALLING IT.

AND WE WERE UNAWARE OF THE VIOLATION UNTIL EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE PROPERTY WAS WENT THROUGH A REFINANCE AND THE LIENS WERE DISCOVERED. SO WE DISCOVERED THE CAYCE AT THAT TIME.

SO WE DID NOT RECEIVE THE NOTICES.

WE CAME IN LICENSED, SAME LICENSED CONTRACTOR CAME IN, PULLED THE PERMIT IMMEDIATELY.

AND THERE HAS BEEN AN AFFIDAVIT OF COMPLIANCE.

I DO HAVE WITH ME TODAY ALSO THE COO OF THE RESPONDENT, STEPHANIE FURR, WHO CAN TESTIFY TO ANY OF THIS IF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WANTS THAT.

WE ARE ASKING FOR A FULL REDUCTION OF THE FINE.

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WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES THAT WILL APPLY.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE CITY HAS BEEN RECOMMENDING A PERCENTAGE I WILL HOLD OFF ON RESPONDING TO THAT UNTIL I HEAR WHAT THAT IS.

THANK YOU. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? SABRINA PARK AND SENIOR CODE OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN THE REDUCTION OF THE LIEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED OF $750.

CITY IS ALSO ASKING FOR A PERCENTAGE OF 8% OF THE TOTAL LIEN TO BE PAID TO THE LIEN WAS 770 $71,172.99, A 8% REDUCTION FOR $5,693.84, PLUS THE ADMIN COST OF 750, FOR A TOTAL OF $6,443.84.

IS THAT $6,443.84? IS THAT CORRECT? $6,443.84? YES, SIR. MY ONLY RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE THE FULL VALUE OF THE HVAC UNIT INSTALLED ITSELF WAS $6,500, SO WE'D LOVE TO SEE AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION ON TOP OF THE PERCENTAGE THAT THE CITY'S RECOMMENDED.

I'M SORRY. ALL OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND HAS TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE ACTUAL FACILITIES, SO WE'D LOVE TO PUT IT IN THE FACILITY RATHER THAN FOR THE FINE AMOUNT.

BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SO WE'LL DEFER TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATES.

CAN YOU HAVE ONE OF YOUR WITNESSES TESTIFY? WHAT? THE AMOUNT THAT WAS PAID.

COME ON UP AND JUST IDENTIFY YOURSELF WHEN YOU COME UP.

KNOW WHEN YOU COME UP HERE.

I THINK HE HAS TO BE SWORN IN TO MR. BEADLE. HE WAS SWORN IN? YEAH. COASTAL CLIMATE.

JOSEPH DITTMAR, COASTAL CLIMATE EXPERTS, AARON HEATH.

AND HOW MUCH WERE YOU PAID FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THIS HVAC UNIT IN QUESTION? 6500. OKAY.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

OKAY. AND.

MR. APERTURE, COULD YOU HAVE YOUR OTHER CLIENT COME UP AND CONFIRM WHAT YOU PROFFERED? HI, I'M STEPHANIE FURR.

I'M THE COO OF PUZZLE BOX ACADEMY.

CAN YOU CONFIRM WHAT MR. BRUBAKER IS PROFFERED? AS FAR AS WHAT HE INDICATED, ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE FOR YOUR BUSINESS AND THE FINANCIAL PROVISIONS THAT HE.

OR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS HE MADE ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS.

YES, SIR.

THIS WOULD HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON US.

WE WERE UNDER THE ASSUMPTION WITH OUR CONTRACTOR THAT ALL PERMITS THEN NEEDED TO BE POOLED OR POOLED.

THE COST OF THE AC, I CAN CONFIRM, WAS $6,500.

ANY TYPE OF REDUCTION ADDITIONAL REDUCTION WOULD WOULD REALLY HELP.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

YES. YOUR ORGANIZATION OF 500 AND 1C3 ORGANIZATION OR JUST A NOT FOR PROFIT OR IS IT FOR PROFIT.

SO THE THE SCHOOL IS FOR PROFIT.

BUT WE DO HAVE A BRIDGE TO TOMORROW WHICH IS NON PROFIT.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

BASED UPON ALL THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE FINE TO $1,000.

I'LL MAKE SPECIFIC FINDINGS IN THE ORDER, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. BIDDLE. 30 DAY TIME FRAME.

30 DAYS. IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME? YES, SIR. OKAY.

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OKAY. AND I'LL EMAIL THAT TO YOU.

OKAY. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

YES, SIR. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE PHONE CONFERENCE CB 2387623 AT 262 EMERSON DRIVE NORTHWEST.

MR. MEHTA, WHILE WE'RE WAITING, I DO HAVE ONE CORRECTION TO THE AGENDA.

THE NEXT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETING IS NOT AUGUST 14TH.

IT IS AUGUST 21ST.

OKAY.

WOULD YOU DO IT ALL IN ONE? THIS IS THE EASY PART. NOW YOU HAVE TO WRITE THE ORDERS.

HELLO, SIR. OKAY.

GENE IS GOING TO SWEAR YOU IN AND YOU'LL BE SPEAKING WITH SPECIAL MAGISTRATE JAMES BEADLE.

HOLD ON. YOU'RE WELCOME.

CAN YOU HEAR US, SIR? OH, HOLD ON A SECOND.

I'LL SPEAK ROWE.

CAN I TEST THIS AGAIN? CAN I SPEAK WITH YOU AGAIN, PLEASE, SIR? I DID PUSH IT ON.

CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? A LITTLE BETTER, YES.

HOW ABOUT NOW? BETTER? YEAH. OKAY.

HOLD ON. PLEASE.

SO CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

AND WHO AM I SPEAKING TO? MICHAEL ROTUNDA. CAN YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? R A T U N D O.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS? 288 TRIANA, TRIANA AVENUE, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PROPERTY? I JUST WORK FOR THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT'S IN CHARGE OF THIS PROPERTY.

AND WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY? GUARDIAN ASSET MANAGEMENT.

GUARDIAN ASSET. WHAT? MANAGEMENT. MANAGEMENT.

OKAY. OKAY.

THE PROCESS FOR THESE PETITIONS IS, IS THAT YOU AS THE APPLICANT PRESENT YOUR CASE AS TO JUSTIFICATION FOR THE REDUCTION AND WHAT THE REQUEST IS, AND ALSO TO AND THEN THE CITY WILL PROVIDE THEIR RESPONSE, AND THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE CITY'S TESTIMONY.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? YES, YES.

IS THIS FOR, LIKE, CITATIONS OR THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY? I'M SORRY. IS THIS IN REGARDS TO CITATIONS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY? WELL, THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT WAS MADE BY DECKER, SCOTT, WHOEVER THAT IS.

YOU KNOW DECKER. SCOTT.

NO. THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE.

OKAY, WELL, HERE'S HERE'S WHAT MY ISSUE IS.

JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE.

WHO'S THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? NOT SURE. IT'S IN MY EMAIL SOMEWHERE.

I FORGOT WHICH BANK IT IS.

IT'S BANK OWNED. THE PROPERTY WAS IN FORECLOSURE, AND I THINK IT WAS IN FORECLOSURE FOR A WHILE.

THEN SOME PEOPLE, LIKE, MOVED IN AND SQUATTED AT THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THEY HAD TO GET KICKED OUT AND THAT WAS VACANT AGAIN.

OKAY, SO ACCORDING ACCORDING TO THE PROPERTY RECORDS, DEUTSCHE BANK OWNS IT AS A TRUSTEE FOR CERTAIN ENTITIES

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SECURED CERTIFICATES.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT OR NOT? YEAH. OKAY.

DO YOU KNOW WHO ELIZABETH REDMAN IS? I DO NOT.

OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR.

YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR REQUESTING TODAY? NO. NO.

I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR CITY CITATIONS AND STUFF TO GET THE FINES REDUCED.

WELL, THAT IS WHAT IT'S FOR.

BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY TELLING ME YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROPERTY.

I MEAN, I DO HUNDREDS OF THESE PROPERTIES.

THEY JUST WANTED ME TO GET ON THE CALL AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CITY CITATIONS WERE, HOW MUCH AND WHAT NEEDED TO GO FORWARD TO FIX IT OR, YOU KNOW.

WELL, I HAVE A I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THAT BECAUSE APPARENTLY SOMEBODY IN YOUR BUSINESS OR SOMEBODY ON BEHALF OF YOUR BUSINESS FILED AN APPLICATION TO BE HERE TODAY. OKAY.

YEAH. I DON'T THINK THEY CAN MAKE IT.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S I MEAN, WHAT IS WHAT IS IT YOU'RE REQUESTING? I DON'T KNOW, A REDUCTION IN THE FINES ON THE PROPERTY, AND I AND I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE FINES IT FOR SO THEY COULD BE.

WELL, THE AMOUNT OF THE FINES AS OF TODAY ARE $11,831.12.

OKAY. SO WHAT IS IT YOU WANT ME TO DO? THE FINES? HAVE THE THINGS BEEN REPAIRED OR WE NEED TO DO THOSE.

AND THEN. WELL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU APPLY.

LIKE I SAID, I DO HUNDREDS OF THESE.

THEY DIDN'T GIVE ME THAT INFORMATION.

OKAY, WELL, LET ME SUGGEST TO YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY APPEAR THAT HAS KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT SO THAT THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTIVELY PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING OR WHAT THE OWNER IS REQUESTING.

WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THIS TILL NEXT MONTH, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

I MEAN, IT'S APPARENT THAT YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS PROPERTY OR WHY YOU'RE EVEN ON THE PHONE WITH ME TODAY.

SO, NO, I TAKE PICTURES OF IT ONCE A WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THIS TO NEXT MONTH. SO I THINK YOU NEED TO ADVISE WHOEVER YOU'RE DEALING WITH THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO APPEAR AT THIS HEARING THAT HAS KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IT IS THEY'RE ASKING FOR AND WHY THEY'RE ASKING AND WHY THEY'RE ASKING FOR IT.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT ACTUALLY FILED THIS APPLICATION IS SOMEBODY NAMED DECKER SCOTT.

AND IT'S D AS IN DOG E K K E R.

OKAY. YEAH. ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE USUALLY OUT OF STATE.

WELL, I'M NOT I'M NOT FUSSING WITH YOU.

I JUST I'M JUST SAYING SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE.

IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR A REDUCTION, THEY NEED TO BE AVAILABLE TO.

OR LET ME REPHRASE THAT.

SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE AVAILABLE THAT HAS KNOWLEDGE AS TO WHAT WHY THE PROPERTIES AND THE CONDITION THAT IT WAS IN AND WHAT THE JUSTIFICATION IS FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE REDUCTION.

LIKE I SAID, I MEAN, IT WAS IN FORECLOSURE AND IT WAS VACANT FOR A WHILE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE BANK, THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR DEED OR TITLE BACK THEN.

SOME SQUATTERS MOVED IN THERE.

THEN THEY HAD TO GET EVICTED.

SO IT'S JUST BEEN A VACANT PROPERTY FOR, I THINK, THE LAST TWO YEARS.

SO. DO I JUST GO ONLINE? WELL, LET ME LET ME ASK YOU A DIFFERENT QUESTION.

THE APPLICATION SAYS IT'S FOR 50% REDUCTION IN THE IN THE AMOUNT OF THE OUTSTANDING LIEN IS I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO AGREE TO THAT? YEAH. I MEAN THEY GAVE ME AUTHORITY TO, TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE DONE OR ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, JUSTIFICATION.

OKAY, LET ME HEAR WHAT THE CITY HAS TO SAY AND I'LL DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT I'LL CONTINUE IT OR NOT.

WHAT? WHAT? HOLD ON. LET THE CITY TESTIFY.

YOU NEED TO SPEAK LOUDER TO SABRINA SO HE CAN HEAR.

OKAY. SABRINA PERKINS, SENIOR CODE OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN THE REDUCTION OF THE LIEN.

OKAY. WELL, HERE'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD.

SINCE THE APPLICATION IS REQUESTING A 50% REDUCTION AND THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION, I WILL GO AHEAD AND ENTER AN ORDER.

THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT OUR ORDERS PROVIDE THAT THE REDUCED AMOUNT OF THE LIEN HAS TO BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS.

IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE? NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS.

AND I COULD DO THAT ONLINE.

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YOU'LL HAVE TO TALK TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.

ALL I DO, ALL I DO IS HEAR THE HEARINGS.

THAT'S ALL I DO. GOT IT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO I'LL ENTER AN ORDER TO THAT EFFECT.

AND YOU JUST NEED TO, YOU KNOW CONTACT THE CITY'S CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PAYMENT.

OKAY, PERFECT. I'LL GIVE THEM A CALL AND SEE HOW I GO ABOUT THAT.

OKAY. SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SIR, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY, BYE. AND I SIGNED THE MINUTES FOR THE LAST MEETING.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE TODAY.

THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED AT 2:11 P.M..

IT'S BIZARRE.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.