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[CALL TO ORDER:]
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2024 DASH 18 TO ORDER.THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
PLEASE TURN AND FACE THE FLAG.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HURRAH! MISS JONES, ROLL CALL.
MISS SHERMAN HERE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. HERE.
OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MADAM SHERMAN.
ONE ONE REQUESTED AGENDA REVISION.
IF WE COULD MOVE PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO TO BE HEARD FIRST.
SO BASICALLY, SWITCH THE ORDER OF ONE AND TWO.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
I. OKAY, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE KEEPING SCORE WE'RE DOING NUMBER TWO FIRST IN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE'RE NOW ON BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[BUSINESS:]
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. PHIL WEINBERG TO THE VACANCY OF CITY COUNCIL SEAT THREE.SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
DEPUTY MAYOR, NOTHING TO ADD, BUT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. WEINBERG. I BELIEVE IT'S WELL DESERVED.
THIS IS A CITIZEN THAT DISPLAY GREAT SERVICE TO THE CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THEM.
ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I ALREADY SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
BILL BATTEN AND PHIL WEINBERG WERE THE MOST QUALIFIED FROM DAY ONE.
IT'S STILL HARD TO THIS DAY, SO HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME.
BUT PHIL, WELCOME TO THE TEAM.
IT'S BUDGET SEASON SO LET'S GET TO IT.
THANK YOU. SO MR. WEINBERG I'LL BE VOTING NO.
AS YOU KNOW I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH THE APPOINTMENT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU SACRIFICED A LOT.
I JUST GOT ALL THE INFORMATION, AND I MADE THOSE DECISIONS TODAY.
BUT I DID RANK BILL BEFORE YOU.
JUST JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL BECAUSE I VALUE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
I JUST FEEL THAT ANYONE THAT SITS ON THIS DAIS, AS YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE ELECTED.
BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 2 TO 1.
DEPUTY MAYOR OR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
I WILL. I'LL PROCEED DOWN TO MR. WEINBERG.
I'M SUPPOSED TO PICK US BOTH UP.
OKAY, AT THIS POINT, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
I PHILIP WEINBERG I PHILIP WEINBERG DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.
DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, THAT I WILL SUPPORT, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, DOMESTIC OR FOREIGN, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN.
THAT I WILL UPHOLD THE PALM BAY CITY CHARTER.
THAT I WILL UPHOLD THE PALM BAY CITY CHARTER AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND BEAR TRUE FAITH AND BEAR FRUIT, TRUE FAITH, LOYALTY, AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME LOYALTY AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME, AND THAT I AM ENTITLED TO HOLD, AND THAT I AM ENTITLED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
OFFICE UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTION, AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM ALL DUTIES, AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM ALL DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL.
SEAT THREE. THE OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL.
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OKAY, ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS I'M A MAN OF FEW WORDS, SO THANKFULLY I WON'T BE MAKING A LONG SPEECH.AS AS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, I'VE SERVED ON A LOT OF BOARDS IN MY LIFE.
I WANT TO THANK MY WIFE OF 43 PLUS YEARS FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING ME.
AND I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I WILL DO.
I'M NOT JUST GOING TO KEEP THAT SEAT WARM.
I WILL BE FULLY INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES UNTIL THE ELECTION.
SO THANK YOU, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE ANYTIME.
OKAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM CHAIRMAN.YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO, AS YOU WERE MR., MR. RODRIGUEZ, PLEASE READ THE CAPTION.
THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 33, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY CREATING TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROVIDE FOR THE GOVERNANCE AND REGULATION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING ZONING, ACCESSORY USES, SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS, SIGNS, RESOURCES, STREETS, PARKING, BUILDING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT, REVIEW PROCEDURES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU SIR. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AS I'VE DISCUSSED WITH EACH OF YOU.
AND I JUST WANT TO STATE THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC.
WE WILL ASK AS, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU ALL AND SHARED WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT YOU CONSIDER TABLING THE ITEMS BEFORE VOTING ON THEM TONIGHT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC, BASED ON SOME QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED THIS WEEK.
IT COULD BE TABLED TO, BUT NOT TO HOLD US UP.
I WANT TO MOVE INTO PRESENTATION.
I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO FIRST TURN IT OVER TO JOAN BROWN, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
AND BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND HER.
SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG PART OF THIS PUSH.
BUT JOAN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON ON THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED FROM WHAT I CONSIDER THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE, IS OUR COMMUNITY NUMBER ONE AND AND ALL OF THE PARTNERS. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE DISCUSSION OF TABLING ENSUES TO GET THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER ALL THESE DOCUMENTS. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD.
AND IDEALLY, COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THE SEVERITY OF THIS BECAUSE FOR US TO CHANGE, ALTHOUGH WHETHER IT'S IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION, WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE AGREES THAT WE'RE ALL ALL SHIPS ARE SAILING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.
WITH THAT MADAM GIANCARLO BROWN.
YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING FOR STAFF.
THIS THESE CHANGES REPRESENT ESSENTIALLY THREE BUCKETS OF AMENDMENTS.
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IS A BOARD OF STATUTE REQUIREMENT.THE SECOND BUCKET OF CHANGES ARE REALLY STAKEHOLDER DRIVEN, MORE OF THE INPUT THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR DEVELOPERS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE PUD ZONING CODE, THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING CODE, AND THE SUBDIVISION CODE.
AND THEN THE THIRD BUCKET OF CHANGES IS REALLY A LOT OF THAT CITY AND COUNCIL DRIVEN TEXTUAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE TYPICALLY BRING BEFORE PNC AND COUNCIL AT ANY OTHER NORMAL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
AND I WILL STATE, YOU KNOW, WE WE DID HOLD A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, AND WE WERE CERTAINLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THERE'S MORE INPUT THAT WE WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AND THAT WE CAN OFFER THESE LISTENING SESSIONS AND, AND ENCOURAGE MORE DIALOG IN THAT SHOULD COUNCIL VOTE TO TABLE.
BUT THE THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS JUST THE, I GUESS, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE CHANGES AND HOW IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE CODE. AND REALLY THE REASON FOR THAT IS WHEN WE WHEN WE DECIDED TO TAKE UNDER TAKE OVER THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE, WE REALIZED THERE ARE A LOT OF CHAPTERS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DIDN'T REALLY BELONG THERE.
THEY BELONG MORE UNDER THE PLAN, THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THERE ARE CHANGES, AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT LOOKS MORE MASSIVE THAN IT IS BECAUSE OF THE REPEAL AND REPLACE.
SO AGAIN, BUT KUDOS TO THE TEAM AND LISA FOR TAKING THIS ON.
THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER AN 18 MONTH PROCESS FOR US.
THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING.
SO FOR THE AGENDA, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND.
HOW DID WE GET HERE? WHY ARE WE MAKING THESE CHANGES? THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LENGTHY PORTION OF THE OF THE POWERPOINT.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.
SO AS JOAN MENTIONED YOU ADOPTED YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAST YEAR.
IT BECAME EFFECTIVE IN JULY OF 2023.
THIS IS WHERE YOU IMPLEMENT THESE POLICIES.
THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED TO COME IN AND UPDATE THE CODE.
HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE STATE.
IT'S JUST THE STATUTES SAY THAT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT JOAN STARTED TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE STARTED THE PROCESS BACK IN APRIL, AS PART OF OUR SCOPE, WE INCLUDED ONE PUBLIC WORKSHOP, WHICH THAT WORKSHOP WAS HELD IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED THREE VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.
SO WHEN STAFF STARTED WORKING ON THE PUD AND THE SUBDIVISION SECTIONS OF THE CODE, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DO THAT AND IT WAS NOT PART OF OUR SCOPE, THEY ALSO HELD A BUNCH OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND INPUT SESSIONS.
THEY WORKED WITH THE ENGINEER ENGINEERING COMPANIES.
THEY HAD ALSO VIRTUAL STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS.
AND SO THEY GATHER INPUT, THEY PASS THAT INPUT INTO US AND WE WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT.
SO IT HAS BEEN A COMBINATION OF, OF DIFFERENT INPUT SOURCES.
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CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHY DON'T WE REORGANIZE IT? BECAUSE IT'S A MESS RIGHT NOW.LET'S PUT THAT AS PART OF YOUR SCOPE.
THEN OF COURSE IMPLEMENT ALL THE POLICIES THAT YOU ADOPTED.
THAT WAS THE MAIN GOAL OF IT AND THEN UPDATE.
SO, YOU KNOW, CODES GET OLD AFTER A WHILE, SOME OF THE CROSS-REFERENCES GET OUTDATED, REFERENCES TO STATUTES TO OTHER AGENCIES, GET OUTDATED NAMES OF DEPARTMENTS GET OUTDATED. SO THAT WAS THE OTHER TASK THAT WE HAD.
SO I MENTIONED THAT WE STARTED BACK IN APRIL.
THAT'S WHEN WE HELD THE KICKOFF WITH STAFF.
THEN WE ISSUED THE FIRST DRAFT IN JULY.
AND THEN WE HAD THAT PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER.
SO LISA CAME IN BRAND NEW TO THIS PROJECT.
SO OF COURSE, THAT PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE FOR CITY STAFF AND FOR US TO GET BACK ON TRACK.
AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THE ADOPTION HEARINGS.
IN TERMS OF THE REORGANIZATION OF THE CODE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE CURRENT OUTLINE OF THE CODE.
IF YOU, YOU KNOW, READ ONE BY ONE, YOU START WONDERING, WHERE DO I FIND ZONING? OH WAIT, IT'S WAY AT THE BOTTOM.
WHERE DO I FIND PARKING REGULATIONS? IT'S NOT EASY TO NAVIGATE.
SO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE'RE NOT DOING JUST AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE.
WE'RE DOING REPEAL AND REPLACE BECAUSE WE REALLY TURNED IT UPSIDE DOWN.
SO THAT'S THE OUTLINE YOU HAVE TODAY.
THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HAS TEN CHAPTERS, STARTING WITH GENERAL PROVISIONS.
THEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PROCESSING AND APPLICATION IN THE CITY.
ZONING, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT CHAPTER TO.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO STANDARD FOR ACCESSORY, TEMPORARY AND OTHER USES.
WE GO TO TREE PROTECTION, LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING STREETS, PARKING AND LOADING, SUBDIVISION SITE AND BUILDING DESIGN SIGNS NATURAL RESOURCES AND ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE CHAPTERS IN A MINUTE.
BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE MAIN TASK WAS IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE CREATED A TABLE AND WE IN THE SECOND COLUMN, WE TOLD STAFF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THAT POLICY IN THE THIRD COLUMN, STAFF BASICALLY GAVE US COMMENTS BACK YES TO THAT OR NO, LET'S NOT DO IT THAT WAY.
LET'S DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN IS THE ACTION HOW WE DID IT, WHERE YOU FIND THAT CHANGE.
WE THERE IS A POLICY IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT SAYS CONSIDER OFFERING DEVELOPMENT BONUSES TO DEVELOPERS WHO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS THAT EXCEED 25 UNITS PER UNITS.
SO WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE LANGUAGE.
AND STAFF SAID, OH YEAH, BUT REMEMBER THAT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CODE RELATED TO THIS TOPIC.
SO MAKE SURE YOU INCORPORATE THAT.
SO OUR ANSWER WAS OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE ALL THE BONUSES AND INCENTIVES IN ONE PLACE.
NUMBER ONE ADDRESSED INTERNAL INCONSISTENCIES.
NUMBER TWO REVISE ALL EXTERNAL CROSS-REFERENCES, MEANING STATUTES.
FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE MOVE SECTIONS OUT OF THE LDCS.
WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE CODE FROM, YOU KNOW, BEING OUTSIDERS.
AND WE'VE WORKED ON MANY CODES AROUND THE STATE.
WE REALIZED THAT SOME ITEMS DIDN'T BELONG IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE NEXT GROUPING WERE THE REQUESTS THAT CAME FROM STAFF.
IT'S LIKE, THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE COMP PLAN, BUT WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH SUBDIVISIONS.
WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH PODS.
CAN WE PLEASE INCORPORATE THAT IN THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING? OR. WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT WITH COUNCIL.
THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THIS.
SO I MENTIONED THIS IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.
I'M JUST GOING TO GO ONE BY ONE.
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SO THE FIRST ONE IS YOUR GENERAL PROVISIONS.SO THE LANGUAGE WAS KIND OF STRANGE.
FOR THE SECOND CHAPTER, THIS IS WHERE WE PUT ALL THE DEFINITIONS.
SO RIGHT NOW YOUR CODE HAS DEFINITIONS IN EVERY CHAPTER WHEN WE COMPILE THEM ALL IN ONE PLACE, WE REALIZED THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE FOUR DEFINITIONS FOR THE SAME WORD, AND SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT NECESSARY.
SO WE CLARIFY THAT THERE'S ONE DEFINITION THAT IS GENERAL.
THEN WE UPDATED THEM TO MATCH STATUTES.
SOMETIMES IN SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS, WE FOUND STANDARDS LIKE IT WAS DEFINING WHAT IS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS A SECONDARY UNIT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR. AND THEN IT STARTS TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DIMENSIONS BEDROOMS. AND YOU'RE LIKE IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE DEFINITION.
IT BELONGS IN THE CHAPTER THAT HAS STANDARDS FOR THOSE.
SO WE DELETED THOSE AND THEN WE ADDED A BUNCH OF NEW DEFINITIONS.
THE LIST YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS IS NOT INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THE NEW DEFINITIONS.
WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR FACILITY, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN IN TERMS OF THE CITY AND THE CODE? SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THIS CHAPTER.
THE SECOND CHAPTER IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CHAPTERS HERE BECAUSE IT RELATES TO HOW DO I GO? HOW DO I NAVIGATE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS I WANT TO ANNEX? I WANT TO CHANGE THE CODE.
I WANT TO GET A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
SO WE PUT ALL THAT IN ONE CHAPTER.
THERE'S NO NEED TO REPEAT PREAPP MEETING IN EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION THERE IS JUST ONE PLACE.
WHAT IS THE PRE MEETING, WHAT IS IT FOR AND WHAT IT IS NOT.
HEARINGS. ALL THE HEARINGS HAVE THE SAME PROCEDURES.
LET'S PUT THEM JUST IN ONE PLACE.
THEN WE HAVE A SECTION THAT HAS THE THE EC APPLICATION TYPES LIKE ANNEXATIONS PLAN AMENDMENTS, REZONINGS, LDC AMENDMENTS, SITE PLANS, CONDITIONAL USES, VARIANCES, MASTER PLANS AND THOSE WERE VERY EASY TO PUT IN ONE CHAPTER IN ONE PART OF THIS CHAPTER.
AND ONE THING THAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THIS IS THAT THERE HAD TO BE UNIFORMITY.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF AN ANNEXATION PROCEDURE? AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT DO I SUBMIT TO GET MY APPLICATION APPROVED? NUMBER THREE, WHAT IS THE REVIEW CRITERIA? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
IT'S LIKE WHAT IS THE CRITERIA I HAVE TO CONSIDER BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.
IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHECK.
SO WE INCLUDED ALL THOSE REVIEW CRITERIAS.
NOW WE SEPARATED THE PUDS FROM THIS GROUPING BECAUSE THEY DESERVE A WHOLE PART.
BECAUSE THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN YOUR REGULAR PROCEDURES.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED WITH LISA AND STAFF FIXING THAT PART A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND WE HAVE YOU HAVE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CITY CALLED THE REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER PUD.
IT COMES FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO IT, BUT WE MADE SURE THAT IT HAD ITS OWN SECTION.
SO WHENEVER SOMEBODY IS DEALING WITH PROPERTY IN THAT AREA, THAT'S WHERE THEY GO.
THE NEXT ONE IS THE SUBDIVISION SECTION.
AND LISA WILL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE IN A LITTLE WHILE.
VACATING PLATS CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH YOU'VE HAD THERE.
AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE TRANSPORTATION.
SO IN TERMS OF THE MAJOR CHANGES WE CREATED A TABLE AND IT'S REALLY EASY TO GO THROUGH THE TABLE AND SEE, OKAY I WANT TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE OKAY. SO IF I LOOK AT THE LINE NUMBER ONE WHICH SECTION DO I GO TO TO LEARN MORE ABOUT VARIANCES.
NUMBER TWO WHAT APPROVAL TYPE IS THAT.
IS THAT A LEGISLATIVE OR QUASI JUDICIAL.
AND NUMBER THREE WHICH BODIES ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING MY APPLICATION.
DOES IT GO TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT? DOES IT GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
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DOES IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL.SO THIS TABLE SUMMARIZES EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE.
SO AGAIN IT'S IT'S A CHANGE IN THE CODE BUT IT'S RESTATING STUFF THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE FROM HERE.
I TALKED ABOUT THE REVIEW PROCEDURE AND CRITERIA.
YEAH. SO WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
SO WE CHANGED THE NAMES OF THE DISTRICTS TO A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERIC NAME.
SO INSTEAD OF BAYFRONT MIXED USE, IT'S COMMUNITY MIXED USE.
AND INSTEAD OF BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE IS URBAN MIXED USE.
SO. AND THEN WE'RE OPENING THE DOORS TO USE THOSE DISTRICTS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND THEN LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE HERE.
SO FOR THE SUBDIVISION PART OF THIS CHAPTER WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAFF.
SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE CHANGED RIGHT NOW IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT SAYS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE TO SET ASIDE 20% OF OPEN SPACE IN YOUR CODE THAT'S ONLY REQUIRED FOR PUDS.
AND LISA, YOU CAN ADD SOME COMMENTS IF YOU NEED TO, BUT REMOVE THE MINOR SUBDIVISION SECTION BECAUSE IT WAS NOT REALLY USED, NOT NECESSARY, AND REDEFINED THE LOT SPLIT AND PROCEDURES.
IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT, THE SITE PLAN GUIDE.
STAFF BROUGHT IT INTO THE CODE AND THEN RESTRUCTURED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FINAL PLAT PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE WERE SOME CHANGES IN THE STATUTES RECENTLY, AND WE HAD TO REFLECT THAT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHERE YOU CAN YOU CAN DO CONSTRUCTION BEFORE YOU GET YOUR FINAL PLAT APPROVED, BUT YOU CANNOT SELL A LOT BEFORE YOUR FINAL PLAT.
AND AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESS THE MODEL HOME CONSTRUCTION FOR THESE SUBDIVISIONS.
BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOME MODEL HOMES BEFORE THEY DO THE FINAL PLAT.
ANYTHING TO ADD? I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, IT WAS IT WAS APPARENT THAT STAFF WAS STRUGGLING WITH FOLLOWING A LOT OF OUR PROCESSES.
AND WE HAD ALSO JUST STARTED AN INITIATED OUR ONLINE PERMITTING PORTAL, OUR IMS SYSTEM.
WE HEARD REPEATEDLY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS.
AND SO THIS SECTION BECAME VERY IMPORTANT TO STAFF TO RIGHT THE SHIP, IF YOU WILL, AND MAKE IT ALL COMPATIBLE AND FLOW, AND I THINK INSPIRED DID A GREAT JOB IN MAKING IT VERY READABLE AND EASILY FOLLOWED.
AND THE SUBDIVISION CODE WAS A BIG MAJOR CHANGE THAT WE TOOK ON.
AND ALL OF THE FEEDBACK WAS FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY STATING THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT OTHER HOW OTHER CITIES DO IT AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND WE WANT IT TO BE COMPATIBLE SO THAT THERE WAS NOT MUCH CONFUSION.
WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY SURVEYOR.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS SECTION.
IT REALLY CLARIFIED FOR STAFF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BENEFIT.
SO WE GO TO THE ZONING CHAPTER.
THIS ONE ALSO. IT'S ONE OF THE BIG ONES.
SO RIGHT NOW YOUR ZONING CHAPTER IS EXTREMELY LONG EXTREMELY LONG.
SO WE START WITH ESTABLISHING THE ZONING MAP AND ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THEN WE MOVE INTO A PART TWO, WHICH EXPLAINS YOUR TRADITIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS YOUR RS1 RS2, RM 15, RM 20.
AND THEN WE HAVE A TABLE OF USES, AND THEN WE HAVE TABLES OF DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.
THEN WE GO INTO A WHOLE PART DEDICATED TO STANDARDS FOR TYPICAL DEVELOPMENTS LIKE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES, MANUFACTURED HOUSING, MOBILE HOMES, ZERO NINE DEVELOPMENTS.
IT'S CALLED CONSERVATION SUBDIVISIONS.
I'LL EXPLAIN THAT ONE IN A LITTLE BIT.
THE NEXT PART IS YOUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
WE DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING HERE.
IT WAS MORE LIKE CLEAN UP AND FORMATTING.
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THEN WE HAVE A SECTION WHERE WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THE DEVELOPMENT BONUSES AND INCENTIVES, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN DETAIL IN A MINUTE.THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE PUD STANDARDS, HOW YOU DESIGN THE PUD.
THE PREVIOUS CHAPTER WAS HOW DO I PROCESS THE PUD? THIS CHAPTER IS ABOUT HOW DO I DESIGN ONE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER PUD GETS ITS OWN PART.
AND THEN THE MIXED USE DISTRICTS, THEY GET THEIR OWN.
THE LAST ONE IN THIS CHAPTER IS NON-CONFORMING PROVISIONS AND VESTED RIGHTS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
NOT A LOT OF CHANGES WERE MADE.
SO WHAT CHANGED IN THIS CHAPTER.
NUMBER ONE WE ANYTIME THAT SOMEBODY COMES TO THE CITY AND SAYS, I WANT TO CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND STAFF SAYS, WELL, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE THAT THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF YOU HAVE MDR, THESE ARE THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT YOU CAN PICK FROM.
IT HELPS PEOPLE FIGURE OUT THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO AGAIN THIS IS NOT A CHANGE.
IN THE ZONING CODE TODAY, YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR USES.
SO LET'S SAY CHILD CARE FACILITIES OR OUTDOOR DINING.
WHEN WE DID THE REWRITE, WE GOT BACK LIKE 200 PAGES.
MORE CHANGES. SO THESE ARE THE TABLES OF USES THAT I MENTIONED.
SO I JUST I'M LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT.
AND NOW YOU HAVE COMMUNITY MIXED USE.
SO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND THE CMU, CMU.
RIGHT. AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL IS GOING OUT AS, AS DEFINED IN THOSE.
OKAY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A MINUTE OKAY.
SO I WAS MENTIONING THAT WE CREATED THESE TABLES WHERE WE LIST THE USES.
NOW, THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN TODAY, YOU GO TO RS1 AND IT HAS A LONG LIST OF USES PERMITTED.
SO BY PUTTING THEM IN ONE TABLE, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE DISCREPANCIES ON HOW YOU WHAT YOU CALL SOME OF THESE USES IN ONE PLACE, YOU WOULD SAY PUBLIC PARKS IN ANOTHER DISTRICT WOULD SAY PARKS IN ANOTHER PLACE, YOU WOULD SAY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARKS.
SO YOU WONDER WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO BY PUTTING THEM IN JUST ONE LIST, WE WERE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THE TERMINOLOGY AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS ALL THE USES THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THE TABLE.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TABLE, YOU HAVE THE LIST OF USES.
THE SECOND COLUMN IS GOING TO SEND YOU TO A DIFFERENT CHAPTER IF THAT USE HAS SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO IT, IN ADDITION TO THE SETBACKS THAT WOULD BE IN THIS CHAPTER, THEN THE COLUMN SPECIFIES WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED CONDITIONAL OR IF IT IS BLANK.
IT MEANS THAT IT'S NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT LISTED ON THE TABLE, THE USE IS PROHIBITED.
BUT IF THERE IS A DOUBT LIKE THE USE IS SIMILAR, IT'S JUST NOT LISTED.
THEY CAN GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
SO THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, AND THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
ONE CHANGE THAT WE'RE MAKING IN TERMS OF USES.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT HAVE OFFICES IN RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'RE SAYING IN THOSE INSTANCES WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALLOW OFFICE.
AN OFFICE IS A USE THAT IS NOT AS INCOMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL.
AND THIS CAME FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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IT WAS A POLICY THAT REQUIRED THAT.SO WE DID CONSOLIDATE SOME DISTRICTS.
SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE MW TEN MW 15 AND MW 20.
SO THAT'S RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
WE LOOKED AT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TEN AND 15 AND NOTICE THAT THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR.
SO WE SAID, WHY DON'T WE STREAMLINE? LET'S COMBINE THOSE TWO.
THEN WE ALL PUDS WERE ALSO CONSOLIDATED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, PLANNED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT. SO WE THERE WAS NO NEED TO HAVE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
WE CONSOLIDATE THEM, CONSOLIDATED THEM INTO ONE CATEGORY.
NOW RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL WAS VERY SIMILAR TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
THEY WERE JUST MINOR DIFFERENCES.
SO WE'RE CONSOLIDATING THOSE TWO.
AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS ARE ALLOWED IN OTHER DISTRICTS.
SO WE DIDN'T. IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WHY HAVE A WHOLE SET UP FOR IT IN THE CODE? AND I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT CHANGES DUE TO THIS CONSOLIDATION.
THEN WE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN BETWEEN? WHERE ARE THE TOWNHOUSES? HOW COME PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING MORE TOWNHOUSES? AND IT'S WHAT WE CALL THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAID YOU SHOULD CONSIDER CREATING A NEW DISTRICT TO ACCOMMODATE THIS.
SO THE NEW DISTRICT, WE CALL IT RT TEN AND WE CREATED STANDARDS FOR IT.
SF TWO IS ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT WE COULD NOT FIND ANY PROPERTIES ZONED THAT.
SO AGAIN, WE ELIMINATED THAT DISTRICT FOR THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.
SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO REZONE SOMETHING, IT'S A LOT EASIER.
WHEN YOU HAVE THEM SIDE BY SIDE.
IT'S LIKE LET ME COMPARE SETBACKS.
LET ME COMPARE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SIZE AND SEE WHICH DISTRICT WOULD FIT MY NEEDS, MY NEEDS.
SO THOSE TABLES ARE GOING TO BE VERY USEFUL FOR THAT.
NOW IN TERMS OF CHANGES TO DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE THAT IS CALLED IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO. HOW MUCH CAN IT CAN THIS BE PAID VERSUS NOT PAID? SO WE ADDED STANDARDS FOR THAT.
AND THEY RANGED BETWEEN 0.5 AND 0.9 DEPENDING ON THE DISTRICT.
RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE I MENTIONED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR IT.
SO WE ENDED UP REDUCING THE LIVING AREA IN THIS ONE FROM 1600 TO 1400.
SO THIS WOULD BE MULTI-FAMILY FOR TRYING TO FIT IN MULTIFAMILY.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO MULTIFAMILY IN TWO STORIES, SO WE INCREASED THAT TO 50.
AND THEN FOR RM 15 AND 20 THE SETBACKS WERE REDUCED.
SO IF YOU'RE NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY THAT SETBACK MAY HAVE TO BE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THE BUFFERS.
BUT WE REDUCED FROM 25 TO 20 FOR FRONT.
THE CORNER IS GOING TO BE FROM 25 TO 15 AND THE REAR FROM 25 TO 20.
NOW WE PRODUCED A DOCUMENT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKET THAT HAS TABLES COMPARING SIDE BY SIDE, ALL THE DISTRICTS THAT WERE CONSOLIDATING, SO THAT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USES OR THE SETBACK, WE CAN SEE THEM SIDE BY SIDE.
AND PUDS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF WANTED TO IMPROVE FOR THE REASONS THAT LISA MENTIONED.
SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS CONSOLIDATING THE PCD.
PCD BECAUSE THEY ALL DO THE SAME.
AND SAME THING WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT CLARIFYING THE OPEN SPACE.
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YOUR CODE TODAY SAYS PUDS HAVE TO DO 25%.SO WE KEPT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COMPLAINT SAYS MINIMUM 20.
YOU CAN ALWAYS REQUIRE MORE IF YOU WANT TO.
SO FOR PUDS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE 25 THAT YOU ALREADY HAD IN THE CODE.
AND THEN CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT IS MENTIONED IN PUD SO THEY DON'T MISS THAT AND CLARIFIED SOME THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE PROCESS AND BONDS PROCESS.
SO WE GET TO THE NEXT CHAPTER.
I KNOW, I'M SORRY. I'M STILL IN THE SAME CHAPTER.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT PEOPLE CAN DO IN THE CITY.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, CONSOLIDATED IN ONE PLACE.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE CLUSTER SUBDIVISION.
SO THE IDEA OF THE CLUSTER SUBDIVISION BASICALLY IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT IN THE CITY TODAY.
SO THE LOTS ARE BIG, BUT THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE.
WHEN YOU LET THEM DO SMALLER LOTS, THEN YOU START CREATING THAT OPEN SPACE.
NOW WE PUT SOME PROVISIONS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE TOO SMALL COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THAT THE OPEN SPACE IS GOING TO BE TRULY OPEN SPACE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE KEPT IN A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR THAT TYPE OF SETTING.
SO SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE YOU DO IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.
THERE ARE SPECIFIC STANDARDS NOW BECAUSE THIS IS NEW.
WE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY, OH, YOU CAN DO THAT BY.
RIGHT. SO WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU GO THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL.
SO YOU CAN TEST IT AND SEE IF YOU LIKE IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC SITE, IT DOESN'T FIT IN.
IT DOESN'T REALLY BELONG THERE.
BUT FOR NOW, IT'S THERE AGAIN.
IT'S NOT BEING IT'S NOT BEING REQUIRED FROM ANYBODY.
IT'S JUST AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO DO IT.
TOWNHOMES, THEY HAVE THEIR SPECIFIC STANDARDS, SO WE CONSOLIDATE THEM IN ONE PLACE.
MULTIFAMILY MANUFACTURED HOMES.
WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THERE.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.
AND SO THE TWO LEVELS, THE CMU AND UMU CMU MEANS THIS YOUR COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, THEY GO TO SCHOOL, THEY HAVE PARKS, AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME COMMUNITY CENTERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE THE UMU, WHICH IS YOUR TOWN CENTER.
SO IN THE TOWN CENTER THEY CAN HAVE MORE HEIGHT, MORE DENSITY.
SO AGAIN THESE ARE THE TWO NEW MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
SO A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE HAVE THIS.
YOU HAVE IT. BUT THE WAY IT'S WORDED, IT DOESN'T SEEM APPEALING TO PEOPLE.
BUT IF YOU WANT IT, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP IN RETURN FOR THOSE FEATURES? SO LIKE VERTICAL MIXED USE AS WE START, YOU KNOW, GROWING WHEN YOU START STACKING, LET'S SAY RESIDENTIAL ABOVE COMMERCIAL YOU START THINKING ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY BECOMING MORE WALKABLE, MORE SUSTAINABLE.
SO IT'S SOMETHING GOOD TO HAVE IN CERTAIN PLACES.
SO WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE UP FOR THAT.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
SOME PEOPLE WOULD PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS MIXED IN WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENTS IF YOU PROVIDE SOME INCENTIVES PUBLIC OPEN SPACE PUBLIC, THE WORD PUBLIC.
YOU KNOW WE WANT MORE OPEN SPACE.
NOT GATED, NOT FOR JUST THE RESIDENTS, BUT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES.
YOU KNOW, AS WE START GROWING, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A NEED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN SUSTAIN PARKING GARAGES, ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, LOW IMPACT AND GREEN BUILDING DESIGN, EMERGENCY STORM SHELTERS.
THIS CAME FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD MORE OF THESE AROUND THE CITY.
CO-LOCATION OF WATER DEPENDENT AND WATER RELATED USES.
SO THERE IS A TABLE NOW IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT CONSOLIDATES ALL THESE WANTS AND NEEDS.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST COLUMN, THOSE ARE THE FEATURES THAT WE WANT.
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THE SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH COLUMNS ARE LIKE WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE TO TO THE DEVELOPER.SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO VERTICAL MIXED USE AND WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE, WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL TWO STORIES FOR THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU GO TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ALLOWED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IF YOU GIVE US A MINIMUM OF 25% OF UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ARE AFFORDABLE.
SO SO THERE'S A WHOLE SET UP WHERE, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE FEATURES, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE GIVE OUT OR WE OFFER 30 YEARS. THE NEXT CHAPTER.
THIS IS WHERE WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THOSE USES THAT HAVE SPECIFIC STANDARDS.
SO STARTING WITH YOUR ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURE.
SO BEFORE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BURIED IN THE CODE.
IT'S A WHOLE PART DEDICATED TO ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURES.
AND THEN FIRST WE GIVE THE GENERAL STANDARDS AND THEN WE GET INTO SPECIFIC TYPES OF ACCESSORY USES LIKE ADUS AND AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, BACKYARD CHICKENS, DOGS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, FENCES AND WALLS, HOME OCCUPATIONS, HOME OCCUPATIONS.
WE HAD CHANGES IN THE STATE STATUTES AND WE HAD TO RELAX OUR REGULATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT.
OUTDOOR DINING. DISPLAY OF MERCHANDISE IN SECURE DWELLINGS.
SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THOSE.
THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE TEMPORARY USES.
SO AGAIN WE START WITH VERY GENERAL STANDARDS.
AND THEN WE LIST TEMPORARY USES FOR THE MOBILE FOOD VENDORS.
WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THOSE CHANGES.
THEY PROVIDED THE LANGUAGE AND WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE CODE.
AND IT'S EASIER TO UNDERSTAND NOW.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE ICE CREAM SHOP, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK? AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE STANDARDS FOR MODEL, SORRY, MODEL HOMES AND STORAGE UNITS.
AND THEN WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR SPECIFIC USES.
THESE ARE THE USES THAT CAN EITHER BE PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL, BUT THEY ARE PRINCIPAL USES.
SO ALL THOSE USES LISTED ON THE SCREEN, THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR THOSE.
NUMBER ONE SAVE THE TREES TREE PROTECTION.
THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THIS CHAPTER.
RIGHT. SO IT WAS REORGANIZED TO START WITH THAT.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE TREES, THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS.
SO ALWAYS ENCOURAGING PRESERVATION BEFORE REMOVAL.
NOW THIS CHAPTER, WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAFF.
THEY DEVELOPED A LOT OF THE PART ONE AND PART TWO LANGUAGE, AND WE HELPED A LOT WITH THE PART THREE.
SO WHEN YOU GET TO PART THREE, THAT'S WHERE YOU GO.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO DESIGN A 7-ELEVEN OR A SUBDIVISION OR AN OFFICE PARK, AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT PLANTS YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE, WHAT KIND OF SHRUBS YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE TREES AND ALL THOSE DETAILS.
AND IN TERMS OF THE MAJOR CHANGES TO THAT CHAPTER AGAIN, MAJOR REORGANIZATION.
WE INTRODUCED THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY PLANT LIST.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA USE NOWADAYS.
INSTEAD OF HAVING YOUR OWN LIST ADDED REQUIREMENTS FOR STREET TREES IN SUBDIVISIONS.
I CREATED A TABLE THAT EXPLAINS THE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERS, AND THEN CLARIFIED WHAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED WHEN YOU DO A LANDSCAPE PLAN OR IRRIGATION PLAN.
NEXT CHAPTER IS STREETS, PARKING AND LOADING.
SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CODE TODAY.
WE'RE MOVING THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY REALLY BELONG.
AND SOME ARE GOING TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT REALLY RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
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THE FORM OF EITHER BUS STOPS, TRANSFER FACILITIES OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED IN THOSE LOCATIONS.SO WE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, AND THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO CREATE A TABLE BASED ON THE IT TABLE AS INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.
THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN THE LIST THAT WE HAD.
SOMETHING THAT WE DID FOR THIS CHAPTER TWO IS LIKE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE MINIMUM PARKING.
AND THEY PROVIDE A PARKING LOT THAT ONLY GETS USED ONCE A YEAR.
IN THE MEANTIME, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PAVEMENT THAT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM, WHICH IS A 10% MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.
THEN I HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF THE EXACT NUMBER.
BUT BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO COMMON BECOMING MORE COMMON IN ALL COMMUNITIES.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE LOADING STANDARDS, SUBDIVISION, SITE AND DESIGN.
THIS IS WHERE YOU GO IN TO SEE HOW TO DESIGN A SUBDIVISION.
WHERE DO I PUT AND IF IT IS NOT NONRESIDENTIAL, WHERE DO I PUT MY DUMPSTERS? HOW DO I DESIGN MY STORM WATER? THIS IS WHERE YOU GO TO GET THOSE STANDARDS.
THERE ARE TWO CHAPTERS THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH, SIGNS.
WE DID THE RENUMBERING AND UPDATED THE CROSS-REFERENCES IN TERMS OF SECTION NUMBERS.
BUT NUMBER ONE, SIGNED CHAPTERS CAN BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL.
SO. AND NUMBER TWO CITY STAFF WANTED TO TAKE THAT ON THEMSELVES.
SO WE DIDN'T REALLY MAKE ANY CHANGES TO SIGNS AND ADULT ENTERTAINMENT.
AND WE LEFT IT AS ITS OWN CHAPTER, AND IT'S THE LAST ONE, AND HOPING THAT SOMEDAY MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THE WHOLE CHAPTER TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, LIKE SOME ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS MENTIONED LAST NIGHT THAT READING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DEFINITIONS IS LIKE, WHY IS THIS IN THE CODE? BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY REFER TO LAND USE.
IT'S MORE LIKE BEHAVIOR OR WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES.
AND THEN THE LAST CHAPTER THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS NATURAL RESOURCES.
THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND THE CITY STANDARD FOR FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.
AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE RELY ON STATE AGENCIES FOR A LOT OF THESE REGULATIONS.
SO WE DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES.
WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING.
THEY HAD SOME TERMINOLOGY CHANGES THAT THEY WANTED TO CLARIFY.
AND OF COURSE WE HAD THE GROUNDWATER AND WELFARE PROTECTION THERE.
NOW, WE MENTIONED THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO MOVE SOME SECTIONS OUT OF THE CODE.
THIS IS HOW THE CITY PLANS THEIR OWN TREES.
SO THAT IS GOING TO CODE OF ORDINANCES.
YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL.
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE RS ONE.
SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING NOTIFICATIONS.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT FOR THE RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY 10 TO 15 AND SINGLE FAMILY ONE TO RESIDENTIAL ONE, THE MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER SEPTEMBER 4TH, AND IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 19TH, OCTOBER 17TH.
NOW, THESE DATES ARE TO BE DETERMINED.
IF SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPENS TONIGHT, THEN ADOPTING THE CODE.
BUT THE OTHER CHANGES THE MIXED USE DISTRICTS.
THEY WOULD GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING IN OCTOBER AND THEN COUNCIL RIGHT AFTER THAT.
SO IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS.
SO WE WENT TO PNC LAST NIGHT AND THEY VOTED 4 TO 1 TO COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
AND IF THE RECOMMENDATION TODAY OR THE ACTION TODAY IS FOR APPROVAL, WE WOULD BE COMING BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH FOR THE SECOND READING, AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IF IF WE TABLED THE ITEM, WE WILL FIT IN SOME WORKSHOPS, SOME MORE PUBLIC INPUT IN BETWEEN.
AND THEN WE WOULD SET THE DATES FOR TO, TO REHEAR IT LATER ON.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
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THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU KNOW, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO NITPICK THIS.HOWEVER YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
GO AHEAD. ARE YOU ASKING FOR FEEDBACK? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.
I WAS STAFF KNOWS I WAS FOR JUST LIKE THE MAYOR FOR PUSHING THIS.
AT A LATER DATE. ESPECIALLY TO ENGAGE AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS AS WE CAN.
I'M FINE WITH IT. DEPUTY MAYOR.
MAYOR. THANK YOU. IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE WE WE WERE ALL THINKING THE SAME WAY.
I DO AGREE. ONE OF MY QUESTION TO STAFF AS THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME IS THAT HOW ENGAGED WERE THE THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THEY ARE WE WHERE THEY HAVE A SAY INTO INTO THESE CHANGES.
WE CERTAINLY I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG HIS COMMENT.
AND CERTAINLY WE, WE WE PARTNER IN THIS.
RIGHT. SO THE MORE WE CAN GET THEIR INPUT, I THINK THE EASIER IT IS.
SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF OF WAIT, TAKE A PAUSE AND MOVE FORWARD.
SO THE VERY FIRST THING, THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR THE OUTSTANDING OPPORTUNITY TO TO PRESENT THIS.
THIS IS THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
PERHAPS GUIDE STAFF, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO HOLD WORKSHOPS WITH EVERY STAKEHOLDER THAT'S INVOLVED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WITHIN OUR CITIZENRY, WITHIN OUR REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY.
I COULD SEE THAT SOME PLACES IT SIMPLIFIES IS IT COEXISTS.
BUT PERHAPS I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
PERHAPS I MISSED IT SOMEWHERE, BUT IS THERE A CODE FOR A CONVENTION CENTER HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IN THE TABLE OF USES.
DID WE PUT IT IN? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND IF WE CAN'T ALLOW IT IN OUR CODE, I SAY WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PART OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE.
I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS DAIS.
THE GOAL IS TO BRING SOMETHING UP INTO THIS CITY.
BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT CODE, HOW CAN WE CREATE SOMETHING? I I'M SPEAKING IT.
SO PERHAPS THIS PAUSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT.
SO I'M, I'M GOOD GENTLEMEN TO TO TO TAKE THE PAUSE BECAUSE I, I REALLY AND I KNOW THAT I, I GOT THE CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THAT A CONVENTION CENTER WOULD BE GOOD IN THIS, IN THIS EFFECT.
MR. RODRIGUEZ, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING? I SEE YOU LEANING IN.
YEAH. THERE'S TWO POINTS THAT I WANT TO RAISE AND TO PROVIDE COUNCIL TO THIS COUNCIL.
WHILE WE DO NOT HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE, I MUST COUNSEL AND ADVISE THIS BOARD THAT THERE COULD BE THE POTENTIAL OF A LOT OF ESPECIALLY IF WE WAIT TILL NOVEMBER OF APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT CURRENT CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LDC, THAT MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CIRCUIT COURT AND THE APPELLATE COURTS OF FLORIDA ARE ADAMANT YOU CAN'T BUY YOURSELF OUT OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VIOLATION.
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THE THE HISTORIC CASE COMES OUT OF MARTIN COUNTY, A CASE THAT I UNFORTUNATELY WORKED ON, IN WHICH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT, INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE ORDER FROM THE COURT WAS DEMOLISH IT.THEY EVICTED ALL THE TENANTS AND DEMOLISHED THE BUILDINGS, AND THAT WAS UPHELD BY THE SUPREME COURT.
AND THAT IS A POTENTIAL WHERE WE MAY HAVE AN INCONSISTENCY WHICH MAY DISRUPT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY. AND WE HAVE TO THEN WEIGH THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE PLANNED AMENDMENTS TO BECOME CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOSE AMENDMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN ADOPTED YET, AND WE MAY END UP WITH DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SECONDLY, PUSHING THIS FORWARD TO NOVEMBER THIS HAS BEEN A GARGANTUAN UNDERTAKING, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR, THE THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE, IN THEIR ULTIMATE WISDOM OF REMOVING LOCAL RULE HOW MANDATES THAT EVEN AMENDMENTS AND OR AND STATUTES RELATING TO AMENDING A LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MUST INCLUDE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.
SO AT THIS POINT, THEN IF WE'RE PUSHING THIS FORWARD TO NOVEMBER, THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PREPARE A DETAILED ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO THEN DETAIL THE EFFECT OF OF AMENDING THE ENTIRE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE ENTIRE CITY.
AT THIS POINT. IF WE ADOPT THIS BEFORE OCTOBER, WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO SO.
WE HAVE SUBSEQUENT ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE COMING ALONG THAT WILL COME AFTERWARDS.
BUT AFTER OCTOBER 1ST ANY ZONING CHANGE THAT'S, THAT IS INITIATED BY THIS BY THE CITY.
SO IF A, IF A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER COMES TO THE COUNCIL ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE, THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERGO A ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT, BUT IF IT'S INITIATED BY THE CITY, WHICH IN THIS CASE THE CITY IS INITIATING THE AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.
AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE CHARTING A NEW COURSE BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST.
BUT THESE ARE IMPACTS AND RAMIFICATIONS THAT I WANT YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN CONSIDERING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THIS AHEAD AND FORWARD TO TO AFTER NOVEMBER. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT AFTER THE THE ELECTION, WE COULD WE COULD BE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTATION ADOPTION MOST LIKELY IN DECEMBER.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL FIVE MONTH GAP WHERE POTENTIALLY THERE COULD BE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP THAT MAY BE BACKLOGGED BECAUSE THEY MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THE ZONING CODE, AS IT'S THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS IT'S PRESENTLY DRAFTED AND NOT ADOPTED WITH THE AMENDMENTS, MAY HAVE AN INCONSISTENCY.
SO JUST TO TAKE THOSE MATTERS INTO INTO CONSIDERATION.
WELL THANK YOU. CAN I ADD ONE MORE TO THAT ONE TO THAT LIST? SURE. GO AHEAD. GO RIGHT AHEAD.
SORRY. SO WE MENTIONED THAT EVEN THOUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS DUE WITHIN A YEAR THE STATUTES DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PENALTIES OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU'RE LATE. BUT LET'S SAY SOMEBODY COMES IN AND REQUESTS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UNDERSTOOD. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO STAFF TODAY, RIGHT NOW IS CAN WE ADD THE CODE FOR A FOR CONVENTION CENTER? THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THING.
YES, SIR. THE CONCEPT OF TABLING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.
SO IF YOU YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE TONIGHT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE.
ANYWAYS. SO ANY CHANGES YOU MAKE TONIGHT, ANY PROPOSALS YOU ADD? THOSE WILL ALL BE BROUGHT BACK AS PART OF THE FIRST THE FIRST HEARING, WHATEVER YOU REQUEST TONIGHT.
YOU WILL BE AS WELL, I'M SURE.
OKAY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN, MA'AM.
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LET LET'S IF WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS, WHICH IT APPEARS WE ARE.LET US HAVE WORKSHOPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AT.
AND LET'S HOLD THEM PUBLIC AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM.
WE WANT TO HEAR THEIR QUESTIONS.
WE WANT TO HEAR. SO THAT WAY IT'S A HUGE DOCUMENT, AS YOU SAID MISTER ATTORNEY AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO DIGEST IT ALL, BUT WE WOULD WANT OUR CITIZENS, WE WOULD WANT ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
I PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP OR COME BACK HERE FOR A FIRST READING.
ACCORDING TO A TIMETABLE, PERHAPS BEFORE THE END OF AUGUST, THE THE 29TH OR THE 30TH OR WHATEVER.
OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
WEINBERG. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR.
YEAH. A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS ADDRESS TO MR. HERNANDEZ. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A ONE YEAR TIME LIMIT TO TO IMPLEMENT NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FROM THE TIME THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS, WAS BUILT, WE'RE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE ONE YEAR.
BUT ANYWAY. AND THERE ARE NO, NO SPECIFIC PENALTIES FOR THAT.
BUT MR. HERNANDEZ ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE COULD HAVE A PROBLEM IF WE APPROVE SOME YOU KNOW, PROJECTS BEFORE ADOPTING THE NEW THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ARE IN, IN CONFLICT WITH THE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULDN'T IT BE FEASIBLE TO NOT APPROVE ANY NEW PROJECTS UNLESS THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM NOW UNTIL AFTER THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ADOPTED.
THE FIRST DAY OF LAW SCHOOL AND I ALWAYS GIVE THIS THESE LITTLE.
BUT THE FIRST DAY OF LAW SCHOOL, WE'RE TAUGHT THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CARRY THROUGH THREE YEARS OF LAW SCHOOL IS THAT THE AVERAGE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING IS IT DEPENDS. AND THAT IS YES.
WE ALSO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A CODE THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE CITY HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO CORRECT.
IT MAY OR MAY NOT OPEN THE CITY TO POTENTIAL BERT J.
SO I MEAN, I HAVE TO ALWAYS I, I ALWAYS FEEL IN MY POSITION, I'M ALWAYS A HARBINGER OF BAD NEWS.
BUT I'M JUST GOING OVER EVERY POTENTIAL ISSUE THAT MAY ARISE SO THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT.
THE CITY ISN'T CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED.
SO THAT'S THAT'S THE KIND OF THE, THE BEST RESPONSE.
I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN GIVE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WHEN, WHEN SPEAKING IN HYPOTHETICALS.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
YES, MAYOR. I LIKE COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
I'M A NITPICK, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, MAN.
YOU AND THANK YOU DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
FIRST QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK FOR STAFF.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD THE CHANCE TO.
HAVE Y'ALL HAD THE CHANCE? CITY CLERK, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REALLY DIVE INTO IT AND FIND AREAS THAT YOU FELT COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED ON, OR THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OR REVISED OURSELVES OR.
WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE. OKAY, MISS JONES, MR. JONES, I'LL START WITH MISS JONES.
BUT I DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB EITHER.
CITY ATTORNEY ADVISES THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NAMELY ME.
I WAS INVOLVED HEAVILY IN THE DRAFTING AND REWORDING OF THE OF THE DOCUMENT.
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PERSONALLY HAVE ALSO WORKED ON AND WRITTEN.AND IT'S JUST IRONICALLY, THE THE AS AN EXAMPLE, THE FOOD TRUCK SECTION.
I HAD JUST DRAFTED A FOOD TRUCK SECTION FOR THE PRIOR JURISDICTION I WORKED AT, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS A FRESH REWRITE BECAUSE OF THE STATE STATUTE STATE STATUTORY LANGUAGE THAT CHANGED. SO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE WERE INVOLVED IN EVERY MEETING WITH STAFF.
WE WERE INVOLVED IN EVERY CONFERENCE CALL.
SO THERE'S I CAN SAY AT LEAST ON MY END, I, I DID CONDUCT A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE, OF THE DOCUMENT.
THANK YOU. THE AMENDED CODE AND I KNOW CITY MANAGEMENT, Y'ALL.
THAT'S Y'ALL'S JOB TO REVIEW IT.
YEAH. YES, I CAN SAY THAT THEY HAVE.
PAT AND JESSE AND I ENGAGED HER EARLY ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOTES IN OUR DOCUMENTS TO THAT EFFECT AS WELL.
BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS JUST OFF OF THAT ALONE.
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE INCENTIVES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FOR OTHER AREAS, BUT I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY COULD IT BE INCLUDED IN THE LDC INCENTIVES FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL FLEX USE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT, BUT WE THE MAYOR SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE'VE BEEN KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BEEN KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.
SO WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS THE INCENTIVES WE'RE PROVIDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO THAT WAY WE HAVE A MUCH LOWER MILLAGE RATE.
SO THAT'S ONE AREA I WANTED TO ADDRESS.
ANOTHER ONE, VERTICAL MIXED-USE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EMPHASIZE MORE AS OPPOSED TO HORIZONTAL MIXED USE.
LET'S UTILIZE THE LAND WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR SMART GROWTH AND TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND WITH JUST.
BUT YOU KNOW, WITH PARKING GARAGES, IT WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT FREE UP THE SPACE.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE.
MAYOR. BUT ONE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK AS WELL, I SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT IT.
YOUR TAKE ON CITY INITIATED REZONING AS AS A AS AN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE COMPOUND.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FLEX USE.
IT KIND OF INCENTIVIZES THESE BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL ENTITIES AS WELL, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LONG PRE-APPLICATION MEETING TO APPLICATION TO COMING BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND US BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED TO A SUITABLE FIT FOR THEM, I THINK THAT CAN HELP AS WELL.
THE CITY CAN MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
AND THEY AGREED TO IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
WE'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING A LOT OF THEIR REGULATIONS TODAY.
BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU DO LIKE A SMALL AREA PLAN OR SOMETHING FOR LIKE A COMPOUND AND YOU SHOW A MASTER PLAN AND YOU SHOW MAYBE THIS AREA SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL, YOU INVOLVE THE PUBLIC.
THAT'S THE WAY YOU CAN GET THERE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I THINK WE'RE.
WE'RE THERE. THAT'S GOOD, BUT I WANTED TO ECHO.
YES, SIR. AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR BRIEFINGS, I TALK ABOUT THESE INCENTIVES, ECONOMIC INCENTIVES.
AND THEN BACK, I MENTIONED PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY.
WE HAD IT WHERE PEOPLE WERE PAYING FOR PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH STAFF.
AND THEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION.
WHERE ARE WE NOW? IS IT WHERE IT'S NO LONGER A FEE OR WITH THIS APPROVAL OR GO AHEAD.
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SO THE FEE GOT REESTABLISHED LIKE LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS, OR WHENEVER IT WAS.AND HONESTLY, MAYOR, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.
HAVING THIS TABLE TO THAT AUGUST 22ND, BECAUSE THE TWO GO HAND IN HAND.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND THERE'S A LOT THAT TIES IN WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN ON THAT.
SO YEAH, I WAS THINKING I WAS THINKING JUST HAVE THIS EVEN FURTHER OUT TO AUGUST 29TH, ADDING ANOTHER MEETING JUST FOR THIS, OKAY? AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO JUGGLE BOTH ONCE WE GET THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP, NOW WE'RE WE'RE COMING BACK HERE OR THAT THIS CAN TAKE A LOT MORE BECAUSE MY WHOLE GOAL IS FOR THE COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT.
THE STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT AND TODAY, YOU KNOW, IS THE 8TH OF AUGUST.
SO IF WE COME BACK THE 22ND, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME? AM I PUTTING STAFF IN A POSITION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HOLD DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS AT THE SAME TIME? SO I WAS THINKING GIVING THEM ANOTHER WEEK, BUT I'M I'M OPEN.
I'M I WAS JUST THINKING SHARING MY THOUGHTS, MAYBE GIVING THEM ENOUGH TIME SO THAT WE HAVE EVERYONE THAT'S A STAKEHOLDER MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, SEE HOW THOSE COMMENTS GO AND WEIGH IN ON OUR FIRST READING.
OKAY, THEN LET ME ASK MISS SHERMAN WHAT STAKEHOLDERS DO WE HAVE CONFIRMED OR THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO FOR THE AUGUST 22ND MEETING REGARDING THE ECONOMIC COMPONENT? WELL, WE WERE WE'RE I'VE REACHED OUT.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO THE 29TH, WE ABSOLUTELY.
IF YOU ALL COULD MAKE IT, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN PUT EVEN MORE POTENTIAL STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN PLACE.
BUT THINKING ABOUT BOTH THE 22ND AND THE 29TH AS POSSIBILITIES, WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DATE OPTIONS, TIMES OF DAY, DIFFERENT DAYS TO TRY TO PROVIDE AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES AS POSSIBLE.
SO WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, BOTH VIRTUAL AND AND IN PERSON.
REALTORS. SO SOME OF THE LEADERS OF THAT GROUP.
THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO US THROUGH EMAIL.
I TOLD THEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE POTENTIAL DATES TO DISCUSS THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO ASKED STAFF TO DO, BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS AND UNDERSTANDING THE VOLUME OF PAGES THAT'S INVOLVED IN HOW CONFUSING THAT WAS FOR SOME FOLKS IS WE'RE I THINK WE'RE JUST ABOUT FINISHED WITH KIND OF AN OUTLINE THAT GOES FURTHER INTO PROVIDING.
BUT WE DID THAT TO TRY TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FOLKS.
SO THE POWERPOINT WAS WAS EXCELLENT.
I THOUGHT IT DID A GOOD JOB, BUT IF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY CHANGING, WHAT WE'RE PREPARING AS A DOCUMENT TO ALSO HAND OUT, SEND OUT TO EVERYONE, WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU ALL. YOU CAN PASS IT AROUND WHEREVER YOU WANT TO SEND IT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS THE INFORMATION AS EASY TO ACCESS AS POSSIBLE.
AND IT'S HARD SOMETIMES FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE PAGES AND FIND WHAT ACTUALLY CHANGED.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
WE'LL HAVE THAT DONE, I THINK MAYBE BY MONDAY I THINK WAS OUR GOAL.
BUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY A LIST THAT WILL BE EVERY EVERYTHING THAT'S CHANGED BUT AN EXPLANATION SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND SO THEY CAN ACCESS WHAT IT IS, AND THEN THEY CAN QUICKLY GLANCE AT IT AND BE LIKE, OH, THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO ME.
I'LL MOVE ON. I KEEP LOOKING, AND THEN IF I SEE SOMETHING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS A HOME BUILDER, YOU KNOW, AS A PRIVATE RESIDENT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN HONE IN ON.
SO THAT WAS ONE SUGGESTION WE HAD OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.
BUT YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN IS TO TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MANY OF THESE INTERACTIVE SESSIONS WITH BEYOND JUST THE FOLKS WE'VE REACHED OUT TO, ANYBODY ELSE YOU HEAR FROM ANYONE, WE GET CONTACTED BY ANYONE WHO IS HERE TONIGHT, WHO WANTS TO BE A PART OF THAT.
WE'LL SEND IT TO AS MANY AS AS ARE INTERESTED.
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SHE'S WORKING ON. SO KUDOS TO STAFF.KUDOS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP IN ASSISTING PEOPLE DIGEST THIS WHOLE 1400 PAGE.
WHAT WAS IT YOU CALLED IT, MR. RODRIGUEZ? GARGANTUAN.
GARGANTUAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A FEW, A FEW MORE.
AND I'M OPEN EITHER WAY TO AUGUST 20TH 2ND OR AUGUST 29TH.
WHEN I'M THINKING OF STAKEHOLDERS, I'M THINKING OF THE LINDA WEATHERMAN'S.
I'M THINKING OF THE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF THE CHAMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO OTHER AREAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE FLORIDA, AS, YOU KNOW, INVESTED IN, YOU KNOW, BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
BECAUSE IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR LAND, WE HAVE PLENTY OF IT.
THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BUILD THEIR ROCKETS IN OUR BACKYARD.
OH, NO. NOW YOU'RE NOW YOU'RE HITTING IT.
NOW THEY CAN BUILD THEIR ROCKETS IN OUR BACKYARD AND SHIP THEM UP TO CAPE CANAVERAL AND GO FROM THERE, YOU KNOW? SO THAT WAY WE'RE CREATING JOBS, WE'RE CREATING OPPORTUNITIES.
THEN THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE RESTAURANTS IN AND THAT'S GOING TO REVITALIZE THIS AREA.
SO KEEP IN MIND STARCOM IS HERE.
YEAH. BUT TWO I THINK I GOT TWO MAYBE THREE MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
BUT RIGHT ALONG THE LINE GO AHEAD.
THE EDC, I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL.
RIGHT. THE EDC KNOWS THAT THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE LOST TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND I CAN MENTION THEM, I CAN RATTLE OFF A FEW COMMUNITIES, BUT I'LL SAVE THAT. THEY KNOW THAT THAT DATA.
THEY KNOW WHAT? HOW WE LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO IF THEY COULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT CARRY ON.
YES, SIR. WITH MULTIFAMILY, I'VE ALWAYS HAD CONFLICTION WITH THAT ONE, BECAUSE.
IS IT TOWNHOMES? IS IT CONDOS? IS IT APARTMENTS? ME PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION AND DEFINITION BETWEEN THE ONES THAT CAN BE OWNED AND THE ONES THAT CAN'T BE OWNED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'LL HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT AND UNDERSTANDING.
DO YOU HAVE A TAKE ON THAT OR.
YEAH, IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE CANNOT MAKE THAT DIFFERENTIATION.
BUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE CANNOT DO THAT.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT SPECIFICALLY SAY YOU CAN HAVE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, RIGHT? LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TYPE OF OWNERSHIP.
AND ALSO YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE A BUILDING THAT STARTS OFF AS A AS A APARTMENT AND BECOMES A CONDOMINIUM BECAUSE AS IT'S PERMITTED BY STATE STATUTE OR VICE VERSA, YOU CAN HAVE A CONDOMINIUM THAT THEN GETS CONVERTED INTO AN APARTMENT.
NO. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MAKES A DISTINCTION AS TO OWNERSHIP.
SO THAT'S THAT'S FAIRLY UNCOMMON.
OR IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PULL A QUICK SWITCHEROO AND CHANGE FROM CONDOS TO APARTMENTS THAT SHOULD COME BEFORE US, BEFORE IT'S ABLE TO JUST BE DONE OR TALK TO ME, SIR, I SEE YOUR FACE.
YEAH, YEAH, IT'S JUST AN AREA OF WHERE WE'RE I JUST PROVIDE CAUTION INTO REGULATING STYLES OF OWNERSHIP AND GOING TOO MUCH INTO THE THE AFFECTING PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
YES, SIR. WE DO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY.
NOW WE SEPARATE SEPARATED THOSE TWO.
I BELIEVE ON THE RC TO NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW IN PALM BAY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TENDS TO WARRANT A CERTAIN STYLE OF DOLLAR STORES, I'LL SAY.
ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH CHANGING FROM RC TO NC OF OPENING THAT UP EVEN FURTHER OR.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE CANNOT SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT TYPE OF STORES OR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE SEEN USED IN OTHER PLACES, LIKE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN THIS CODE, BUT WE'VE WORKED ON IT BEFORE WHERE YOU MAY ALLOW NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY IF THEY COMPLY WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
AND ONE OF THEM IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS A GROCERY STORE, IT HAS TO INCLUDE FRESH FOOD BECAUSE DOLLAR STORES, SOMETIMES THEY SAY THEY'RE GROCERY STORES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FRESH FOOD. SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE HAVE DONE IT, THAT IT KIND OF WORKS THAT WAY.
THE NOT THE LEGAL TERM WE CREATED WAS SMALL BOX STORES.
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AND IT IS THEY THEY ARE SUBJECT TO DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS.THEY'RE LIMITED TO SPECIFIC ZONING CATEGORIES.
I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE WE WE HAD CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO THIS WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I DRAFTED ONE FOR THE CITY OF APOPKA, OKAY.
YES, SIR. SO THAT WAS THE STUDY AND THE AND THE JUSTIFICATIONS INVOLVED.
SO IT WAS ALMOST IT'S IT'S AKIN TO AN ADULT ENTERTAINMENT STYLE THAT YOU CAN HAVE STORES.
AND TO DATE, WE HAD NOT SEEN ANY, ANY TYPE OF LEGAL CHALLENGES.
NOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH STAFF, MAYOR, THE COUNCIL'S CONSENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TRY TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.
CARRY ON. JUST CALL THEM SMALL BOX STORES.
SO WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, WE HAD A LIMITED SCOPE.
AND HAVING WORKED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE WE DID A COMPLETE REWRITE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SOMETIMES IT WAS LIKE, I WISH I COULD PUT MY HANDS INTO THAT SECTION AND CHANGE IT, BUT WE HAD TO KEEP IT LIMITED.
NOW THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT'S A LOT EASIER TO AMEND THAN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO ONCE YOU HAVE A REORGANIZED CODE, YOU CAN START CHANGING BITS AND PIECES OF IT, LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WITH THIS ROUND.
SOME PEOPLE BROUGHT UP SOME INTERESTING SUGGESTIONS AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT THAT, I MEAN, YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES NEXT MONTH AND THE FOLLOWING MONTHS, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KEEP EMBELLISHING THE CODE IF YOU WANT TO.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT THE MAIN GOAL IS JUST COMPLIANCE WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WELL THANK YOU I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW.
I I YOU'VE TAKEN THE NOTES OF WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, WHAT DATE, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR, THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WORKING TO THIS.
SO NOW AS WE GO ON, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK AT THIS POINT.
SO I THINK IT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE PUBLIC.
THEY'RE HERE. THEY'VE TAKEN THEIR TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO BE HERE.
I THINK THEY THEY CAN BE THEY SHOULD CAN THEY SHOULD SO SHOULD BE HEARD.
ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
WELL. NO CARDS? NO. WELL, NO. IT'S.
GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AND MAYOR STAFF.
I REALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
THOSE CLUSTER HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE THEY'RE PART OF AN IDEOLOGY THAT'S WRONG.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE RIGHT NOW IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
MOST OF THE RENT THAT I'VE SEEN AROUND FOR WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE IS BEACHSIDE.
LIKE, I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST LIVING HERE ARE JUST LIVING HERE.
AND THEY THEY CAN'T AFFORD A LOT OF THAT.
SO IF WE HAVE BUILDERS THAT DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THINGS GET ABANDONED.
THE THE COMPOUND IS THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE OF THAT.
I MEAN THINGS DON'T HAPPEN THE WAY THEY SHOULD.
MY SUGGESTION FOR THAT IS TO DON'T GET THE IMPACT FEES RIGHT UP FRONT.
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PUT THEM IN EACH PART OF THE PROJECT SO THAT THEY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROJECT, SO THAT IF THEY DON'T ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, THEY DON'T FINISH A PROJECT, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT AND ADDITION PENALTIES FOR NOT FINISHING. DON'T REWARD OR GIVE PEOPLE INCENTIVES OR BUSINESSES INCENTIVES IF THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED ANYTHING.WE DIDN'T FINISH IT, WE GOT PENALIZED.
SO WE HAD TO LIVE UP TO OUR THE WHAT WE PUT IN OUR RFP AND OUR RESPONSE.
AND AND THERE'S TOO MANY INCENTIVES IN HERE.
THE OTHER PART ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE'VE HAD TOO MANY FAILURES AS FAR AS HOUSING GETTING ABANDONED.
SO I DID SEE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABANDONED HOMES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE JUST.
THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND IS INCONSIDERATE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE THERE.
SO I HAD TO SEND IN A COMPLAINT.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST INCONSIDERATE, NOT NEIGHBORLY THINGS THAT SHOULD BE GODLIKE.
I MEAN, AS WE WERE ALL TALL, DON'T YOU KNOW, INVADE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING ON? SO. SO A LOT OF THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS IN HERE OTHER THAN THE THE REZONING SITUATION IS THAT ZONING WAS THERE FOR A REASON.
MAJORS IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.
YOU DON'T KNOW, PUTTING ALL THOSE HOUSES THAT THEY WANTED TO OR THE APARTMENTS THEY WANTED TO.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SINKHOLE OUT THERE OR YOU DON'T.
IT WAS IT WAS ZONED FOR, FOR A GOLF COURSE.
SO TO DROP ALL KINDS OF HOMES ON IT IS IS RIDICULOUS.
MA'AM. MA'AM, WOULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? RUTH CAULFIELD, 935 DOUGLAS STREET.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.
MICHAEL MORIARTY, 742 CORNELIA AVENUE SOUTHEAST.
FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO APPLAUD YOU ON THE CONVENTION.
NOW, LET ME GET TO MY PERSONAL ISSUE.
BEAR WITH ME. I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES, SO I'M GOING TO WING IT HERE.
I BELIEVE A COUPLE DAYS AFTER THAT, I SPOKE TO YOU, MR. MAYOR. AT WHICH TIME YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO THE CITY MANAGER AND DIRECTOR TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. DID I SPEAK TO YOU OR DID I SEND YOU? I GOT ALL THE TEXTS. I GOT THE CONVERSATIONS.
I GOT THE PICTURES THAT I SENT TO YOU.
WE WERE TEXTING BACK AND FORTH, IF YOU REMEMBER.
OKAY. I SENT YOU PICTURES OF MY PROPERTY THAT WAS DESTROYED BY THIS STORM DRAIN.
OKAY? MY DRIVEWAY EVEN BURST A PIPE IN MY SEPTIC.
I WAS PASSED ON TO A PERSON WHEN I STARTED.
I ASKED THE THE QUESTION OF LIABILITY, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS JUST PASSED RIGHT OFF.
THEN I GOT THE EXCUSE WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR A NATURAL CAUSES.
SHE OVERLOOKED THE WHOLE POINT.
IT WAS CITY PROPERTY THAT WAS UNMAINTAINED.
THAT DESTROYED MY DRIVEWAY AND OTHER PARTS OF MY.
NOW I'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET ON THE SIDE OF MY DRIVEWAY TO GET OUT OF MY VEHICLES.
IT'S GOTTEN KIND OF RIDICULOUS NOW.
WHEN PUBLIC WORKS CAME OUT, THEY DUMPED THE SAND.
THEY LEFT. THEY CAME BACK A FEW MORE WEEKS LATER, DID THE SAME THING.
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HERE. AND THEN JUST RECENTLY THEY COME OUT AND THEY PUT A 36 INCH PIPE RUNNING FROM UNDER THE ROAD TO THE STORM DRAIN ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET TO A 24 INCH.NOW, IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER FLOOD.
ALL RIGHT, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE ASKING INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
OKAY? AND AND YOUR ITEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I'LL LET YOU.
I WAS DOING ALREADY. YES, SIR.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM.
I LET YOU CONTINUE, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.
WE'RE SPEAKING ON THE ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REGARDING OUR LAND CODES.
SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO I KNOW THE CASE.
I REMEMBER THE CASE THAT I GOT STAFF INVOLVED.
WHEN YOU SEND ME THAT EMAIL AND SUCH.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE BECAUSE STAFF WAS WORKING ON THIS.
AND AND IF IT'S A PRIVATE ISSUE, THEN I UNDERSTAND.
BUT SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
OKAY. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THE FIRST ITEM WAS CLUSTER HOMES.
YOU'VE GOT SIZES THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR THE SIZE OF LOTS THAT HAVE TO BE IN.
YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THERE, BUT THEN THE CLUSTER HOME SITE THAT WAS PROPOSED, I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT GAVE ANY SIZE OF WHAT THE LOTS WERE GOING TO BE, WHAT SIZE THEY WERE GOING TO BE.
AND THEN THAT ALSO LEADS US TO THE CONGESTION THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE STREETS OF CLUSTER HOMES.
NOW, IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR 20% GREEN SPACE, WE'LL JUST PUT THE HOMES CLOSER TOGETHER.
SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE IS TAKE A SECONDARY LOOK AT CLUSTER HOME.
I THINK THEY'RE CALLED. IT'S ON SECTION 173.
THE NEXT ONE PENALTIES WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP.
THIS IS REFERRING TO SECTION 175.014 WHICH IS IN TREE REMOVAL SECTION.
MAKE THE PENALTY SO, SO SEVERE THAT THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND FILE TO TRY AND SAVE THE TREES.
THEY'LL PUT THEIR PAPERWORK IN THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO DO IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, WELL, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY WHAT DO WE CALL THEM? SIGNATURE TREES ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL IF IT'S ALREADY GONE, YOU DON'T KNOW IT.
SO THAT SAID, WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS NOW FOR CLEARING OF ANYTHING.
IF THEY'VE ALREADY CLEARED IT AND THEN SAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR PERMITS.
SO LET'S MAKE THE PENALTIES WORTHWHILE.
SO WE HAVE A BENEFIT OUT OF THE BAD BEHAVIOR.
ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE WAS TEN.
CONVERTING 10 TO 15 I DON'T DON'T REMEMBER WHAT SECTION IT WAS IN BUT WE ALREADY HAVE 15 RATINGS.
SO WHY WHY EXTEND THE AMOUNT OF POPULATION YOU CAN PUT ON THAT ONE.
AND THAT IS ONCE A SECTION 176 SAID SIDEWALKS WILL BE PROVIDED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY HARD TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT IT'S IN YOUR CODE.
AND LAST ONE IS WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION OF DEVELOPMENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET THEIR INPUT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT, EVEN MORE SO TO ME IS THE RESIDENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, THAT IT'S THEIR STAKEHOLDER BECAUSE IT'S THEIR LIFESTYLE THAT THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.
RIGHT. WELL, I MADE IT IN TIME AND GOOD LUCK.
WEINBERG. YOU LOOK GOOD UP THERE.
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THANK YOU. COUNCIL.I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
LET'S BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE LAGOON.
WITH A FOCUS ON PROTECTING FLORIDA'S MATURE NATIVE TREES.
TO CAPTURE STORM WATER TO PROTECT THE LAGOON FROM RUNOFF.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VOTE TONIGHT WAS TO APPROVE REFORMATTING OF THE ORDINANCE.
IT'S GOOD THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN CHAPTER 175.
SECTION 175.021 ALLOWS 100% NON-NATIVE TURFGRASS LAWNS AND SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS NATIVES IN SWALES.
SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS ARE THE TREE MOST IMPORTANT FOR SHADE AND ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS, BUT IN THE URBAN SETTING THEY ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO BE THEIR MOST BEAUTIFUL MATURE SIZE BECAUSE OF ROUTINE PRUNING AT GREAT COST TO THE CITY TAXPAYER.
MEDIUM AND SMALL TREES COULD BE UTILIZED MUCH MORE IN URBAN LANDSCAPES TO REDUCE SPACE AND COST.
THANK YOU FOR PROHIBITING HAT RACKING AND TOPPING IN SECTION.
SOMETHING'S HAPPENING HERE WITH MY PHONE 175.028.
BUT ANOTHER PRUNING METHOD THINNING, IS EXPRESSLY ALLOWED.
HOWEVER, PRUNING NATIVE TREES FOR WIND RESISTANCE IS NOT SCIENTIFIC, AND THE SUBSTANTIAL LOSS OF LEAVES FROM EGREGIOUS PRUNING METHODS OF RAISING, THINNING, AND LINES TAILING REMOVES THE BENEFITS FOUND ONLY AT THE LEAF LEVEL.
IN CHAPTER 179, OCEAN RESEARCH CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS A 20 FOOT SHORELINE BUFFER OF NATIVE PLANTS ON LAGOON WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND BUFFERS ON EDGES OF STORMWATER PONDS TO FILTER POLLUTANTS BEFORE THE STORMWATER REACHES THE LAGOON.
ANOTHER WAY NEEDS TO BE FOUND TO PREVENT LOSS OF THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I THINK WE'RE ALL WRITING THEM DOWN, AND WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON EVERY SINGLE ONE.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MISS SUE.
YOU CAN COME SIT UP HERE IF YOU LIKE.
YOU CAN COME UP HERE IF YOU LIKE, SIR.
THANK YOU. SUSAN CONNOLLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR INCLUDING CITIZENS.
I'D LIKE TO SAY TWO WORDS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO I DIDN'T SEE FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN POSSIBLY THINK OF RIGHT NOW.
COULD WE BUILD THIS IN THE CODE? THINGS FOR SOLAR HOMES THINK HOMES THAT ARE USING ALTERNATIVES TO WASTE MANAGEMENT HOMES THAT ARE TINY LITTLE HOMES THAT TRADITIONALLY CAN'T GET INSURANCE OR CAN'T GET THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT RIGHT NOW, THE HUMANITY HUMANITY.
I FORGOT THE NAME, BUT THEY'RE BUILDING IN MELBOURNE 3D HOUSES.
COULD WE BUILD A 3D HOUSE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN OUR CODE.
THE OTHER THING REGARDING BUSINESSES.
THE SAME WITH THAT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT ARE, AGAIN FUTURISTIC AND INNOVATIVE.
IT'S A SOLAR ELECTRIC CAR THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED RIGHT HERE AT FIT.
IN FACT, I WAS 001 THE FIRST TEST DRIVER OF IT.
WE WANT TO PROMOTE AS WELL AS ATTRACT.
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SO AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE OUR CODE TO HAVE SOME SECTION THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO DEAL WITH THESE INNOVATIVE, OUT OF THE BOX WAYS OF HELPING CITIZENS BUILD AND MOVE IN A DIRECTION THAT BENEFITS US ALL.KEN FARLEY, 1940 WINBROOK DRIVE.
CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC, SIR? THANK. THANK YOU.
AND THE BASIC QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE FOCUS ON GROWTH WHEN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS YEARS BEHIND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE.
HOW CAN WE GROW MORE WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE? AND TO ME, THAT REALLY POINTS BACK TO THE REAL STAKEHOLDERS, THE RESIDENTS.
HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I MEAN, WHERE IS THAT IN THE PLANNING SYSTEM? WHERE IS THAT KEEPING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE? YOU LOOK AT IT WATER, YOU LOOK AT IT, SEWAGE, YOU LOOK AT IT, ROADS, EVERYTHING JUST GO UP AND DOWN MALABAR ROAD.
WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GROW MORE WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? THAT'S MY BASIC QUESTION.
AND WE'LL WE'LL GET SOMEONE TO ANSWER THAT.
BUT BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE SEATS OR IF YOU'RE.
I WANTED TO JUST EXPLAIN THE PROCESS.
SO WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OF HOW WE GOT HERE AND AND AND WHAT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING? SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
SO 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, I GUESS WE STARTED ON THIS JOURNEY TO UPDATE EVERYTHING.
SO LAST YEAR WAS WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FINALLY GOT UPDATED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
AND SO IT'S TAKEN US ALL THE TIME.
SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE SEE TODAY ARE BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ORDINANCES DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH CHANGES NOT JUST AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT ALSO IN THE WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE IN.
SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY, 100% AGREE PLAYING CATCH UP RIGHT NOW.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THAT PLACE.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST JUMPING AHEAD TO NEXT WEEK'S MEETING, I HAVE A MASSIVE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE NEED TO SPEND ON NEW FIRE STATIONS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO I MEAN, I COULD TALK FOR A LONG TIME, I'M SURE, ON ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO PLAN FOR WE HAVE MULTIPLE MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT ARE UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR WIDENING. WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, SIR, AND TALK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU AFTERWARD.
TEN YEARS AGO, WE WERE BEHIND.
THANK YOU. ROGER ADAMS, 968 ULSTER AVENUE SOUTHEAST.
MY WIFE AND I ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WERE NOTIFIED IT WAS BACK IN MAY OF A MEETING FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PLANNED ACROSS THE STREET FROM US IN A IN AN AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. IT'S ZONED FOR SOME KIND OF OPEN SPACE.
I THINK ORIGINALLY THEY INTENDED TO MAKE IT INTO A PARK OR A SCHOOL.
ANYWAY, IT'S ABOUT 12 ACRES OR SO.
AND SO WE OF COURSE, SIR, I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE'RE WE'RE OKAY.
WE'RE TALKING. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY I'M HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.
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I WANTED TO MAINLY JUST ECHO WHAT THE LAST GENTLEMAN HAD TO SAY, BECAUSE OUR BIG CONCERN FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR AREA, WHICH IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, SIR, BUT IS.IS, SIR. OKAY, I HAVE TO I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER PROJECTS, THAT WHAT'S BEFORE US IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
NOW, THE CODE IS NOW, IF YOU'RE OKAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TO SHARE WITH ME ABOUT YOUR ISSUE AND AT A CERTAIN. OKAY.
SO THEN CARRY ON CARRY ON CARRY ON.
IN GENERAL THE WHOLE IDEA WHAT I, WHAT I SEE MISSING IN HERE IS CONCERN FOR EVACUATION ROUTES, FOR HURRICANES, FOR FIRES, FOR FLOODS.
WE'VE BEEN REALLY LUCKY, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.
AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD HAVE A FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE IN PARTICULAR EVACUATION ROUTES, TRAFFIC STUDIES AND OF COURSE FIRE STATIONS, POLICE SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN GROW AS A COMMUNITY AT A PACE THAT ADDRESSES SAFETY ISSUES. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT.
YEAH. AND I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S A I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE YOUR NOMENCLATURE.
I WAS HOPING THERE WAS, LIKE, AN ABBREVIATION INDEX THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS.
BUT AT ANY RATE IT'S JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THE THE THING THAT SEEMS TO BE MISSING HERE AS FAR AS A FOCUS AND BACK TO THE WHOLE BUSINESS ABOUT PENALTIES. IF IT COULD BE GET ON THE MIKE, SIR.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE CHASING ME AWAY.
OKAY. THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE THE NEED FOR IT TO BE IN THE CODE IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.
AND TO HAVE FOCUS ON INSTEAD OF GIVING BONUSES TO DEVELOPERS TO, LIKE, GET STARTED.
THE PERSON THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PENALTIES FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WHEN WE WENT TO THAT MEETING WHAT THEY AND FORGIVE ME IT'S IT'S IT SEEMS TO FIT IN WITH THIS ISSUE.
THE FOCUS WAS NOT ON THE THE STUDIES THAT HAD BEEN DONE THAT SHOWS THAT THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IN OUR AREA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR NEAREST FIRE STATIONS.
OKAY. SO WHAT AREA WAS THAT? WHAT AREA IS THAT? IT'S ULSTER AVENUE.
ULSTER AVENUE. IT'S ONE OF AND IT'S CALLED THE GREEN VIEW.
I BELIEVE IN THE OKAY, I REMEMBER IT, SIR, I REMEMBER IT.
YES. COULD I, COULD I, MR. ADAMS? YES. COULD I GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION BEFORE YOU LEAVE? WE WERE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT PROJECT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
WE'VE EXPRESSED THOSE TO THE DEVELOPER.
THEY DID A LOT OF THINGS WRONG ALREADY, SO WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT.
BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU OFFLINE IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. JUST WASN'T HONESTLY, IT WAS.
ANOTHER WAS A SERENADE AS WELL.
SO YEAH, AND IT WASN'T THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THE PROPER, PROPER FASHION IN ORDER.
THEY GOT ALL FOUR GROUPS IN THE ROOM AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF HAVING A MEETING.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
LET GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR INFORMATION AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AND GET YOU ADDITIONAL DETAILS.
ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
SO WE DOCUMENTED THE CLUSTERS AND OKAY.
YES I WANTED TO ADD TO THE CLUSTER PROBLEM OKAY.
AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR IT WAS A GREAT POWERPOINT AND A LOT OF WORK.
PAT DALPRA FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE.
WE FOUGHT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.
THERE WERE SEVERAL DEVELOPERS THAT WANTED TO DEVELOP INSIDE A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
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SO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE.OFF OF FALLON, ON BOTH SIDES BEHIND CENTER POINT AND SEVERAL OTHER PLACES.
SO THE CONCERN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT IS THAT THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND USE THAT AS A REASON TO DEVELOP.
SO THAT NEEDS TO REALLY I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT TOTALLY.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CODES AND ORDINANCES.
THEY'RE GREAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT FOLLOWS UP ON EACH ONE OF THOSE I HAVE SEVERAL AREAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ACTUALLY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUILT THEY HAVE NOT REPLACED ANY TREES AT ALL.
AND SO I WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
AND WE'VE CALLED BUILDING DEPARTMENT MANY TIMES ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING.
SO AGAIN, WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE? WHO'S GOING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THESE ORDINANCES AND MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW THROUGH? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I'M ALL ABOUT ONE ACRE AND FIVE ACRE LOTS AND MAINTAINING THOSE. OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING THAT, I'M SURE SOMEHOW.
YES, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
AS THE NEXT SPEAKER COMING FORWARD, ONE OF THE THING I BELIEVE BUILDING BUILDING IS NOT HERE FOR.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
NO HOUSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE CAN GET A PERMIT FINAL SEO WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST FOUR TREES, AND I BELIEVE TEN SHRUBS. SO THAT IS SUPPOSED THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
SO IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ADDRESSES ARE.
AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE WHAT IT IS, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S THE RULE.
SO I'LL BE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT WHO IT IS, WHERE, AND SO ON.
SO ONCE THEY MOVE IN AND THEY REMOVE IT, IT'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, CORRECT? OKAY. THAT'S ALL. I JUST I JUST GUESS PROPERTY RIGHTS.
I AM THE PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF ALETHEA HOLDINGS.
AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY, FIRST AND FOREMOST TO THANK MAYOR MEDINA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
WE WORK WITH LOCAL CHARITIES AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS BY DESIGN.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS BUILD A PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY GOVERNMENT AND CITY MANAGEMENT, WHICH WE HAVE BEGUN IN EARNEST OVER THE SUMMER AND I AM ABSOLUTELY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE AS I SAID, ELECTED PALM BAY OVER RENO, AND WE WILL BEGIN NEXT WEEK IN EARNEST FOR FORMAL NEGOTIATIONS, APPLICATION PROCESSES AND MOVING FORWARD.
HAVING A NEWLY MINTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE RESIDENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS, DEVELOPERS, INVESTORS, ENTREPRENEURS, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT COLLECTIVELY AND COLLABORATIVELY, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL STAND HEAD HEADS HELD HIGH, THAT WE DID THIS.
THIS WASN'T FORCED ON ANYONE BY ANYONE.
THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT PUT TOGETHER FOR THE COMMUNITY, BY THE COMMUNITY, OF THE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT, BY DEFINITION, IS HOW YOU BUILD COMMUNITY.
I AM SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE ARE TABLING THIS DISCUSSION, GIVING EVERYONE THE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD IN A COLLECTIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYONE IS REPRESENTED IN THE PROCESS.
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WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE GDC, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE EXXONMOBIL OF THE 90S.HORTON OR A PULTE, OR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER OF YOUR CHOOSING.
I DID RAISE MY CHILDREN HERE IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
THEY HAVE SINCE GRADUATED AND I HAVE MOVED OVER TO MELBOURNE BEACH WHERE IT'S MUCH QUIETER.
BUT I DO INTEND TO BUILD EFFECTIVE 2025.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING.
I LIVE AT 1378 ASHEBORO CIRCLE, SOUTHEAST.
IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT TO ATTRACT THE CONTRACTORS TO COME IN.
THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. IF YOU ATTRACT THEM OR NOT.
THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE MONEY ON US.
THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THE HOUSE OUT OF THE GENEROSITY OF THEIR HEARTS.
THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE A PROFIT.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS BESIDES PENALTIES THAT CAN BE PUT ON THESE DEVELOPERS.
OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, IF THEY'RE COMING IN AND PUTTING IN 1000 APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, LET THEM BUILD THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, LET THEM BUILD THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, LET THEM BUILD A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.
NOTHING WITHIN THIS PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE SEWERAGE.
NOTHING IN THIS PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE ELECTRIC.
WHERE IS FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IN THIS CONVERSATION? FOR THEM TO SUPPLY THE POWER FOR ALL THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE DOING, NOTHING IS THERE FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE.
YOU'RE BUILDING HIGH RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHERE MYSELF, AS A HOMEOWNER, WHEN I'M PAYING IN MY PROPERTY TAX TOWARDS THE PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU'RE TAKING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BUILD 20 HOMES, PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON.
GREAT. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? JUST BE TREES? WHY ARE WE, AS A COUNTY PARK SYSTEM, PAYING TO PUT THE PARK OR THE PLAYGROUND IN THERE? THE DEVELOPER IS DEVELOPING TO MAKE A PROFIT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO BE AFRAID OF THEM NOT COMING TO PALM BAY.
PALM BAY IS SUDDENLY BECOMING THE NEXT ORLANDO.
OVER DEVELOPING. YOU CANNOT DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD.
OUR GOVERNOR CUT THE BUDGET OFF TO TO WIDEN ELLIS ROAD.
TRY TO GO FROM NASA DOWN ELLIS TO GET ON TO I-95 AT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
IT'S BACKED UP ALL THE WAY BACK TO WICKHAM.
WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP, BUT THE CONTRACTORS ARE REALLY NOT OUR FRIENDS.
OUR CONTRACTORS ARE THERE TO BUILD, TO MAKE MONEY.
THEY CAN'T MAKE MONEY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
SO LET THEM PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO WITH THEIR THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY, I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS, I GUESS.
DO WE NEED A TIME? CERTAIN? YES.
YOU HAVE TO TABLE IT TO A DATE.
WE HAVEN'T ADVERTISED ANY DATES YET.
FOR 22ND OR 29TH, I KNOW BOTH EDC AND THE CHAMBER.
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BUT NO, NONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT TO YET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE SESSIONS.SO LET ME MAKE A MOTION FIRST BEFORE I START THE.
OKAY. YOU GUYS WANT ON THE MOTION? OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO AUGUST 29TH.
DID YOU WANT THE 22ND, SIR? I WOULD SUPPORT THE 22ND OVER THE 29.
THAT JUST CUT DOWN A LITTLE ON THE AMOUNT OF ON THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS.
YEAH, WELL, YOU HAVE SOME GOING ON.
IS THAT NOT WORK FOR YOU? NO, I COULD DO EITHER ONE. THAT'S WHY I WAS.
YEAH. OKAY. I'M GOOD. 22ND IS GOOD IF YOU WANT.
OKAY. THEN YOU'RE MORE MY SECOND.
IF YOU REMOVE YOUR SECOND, I WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND.
AND I'M IN MY MOTION TO THE 22ND OF AUGUST, NOT THE 29TH.
GOT A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO AUGUST 22ND.
BY BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
I WANT ALL OF US TO HAVE ALL BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AS YOU WOULD SAY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONTACTS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STATE, SPECIFICALLY US, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLUE ORIGIN'S, THE SPACE-X, THE AMAZON WAREHOUSES.
THAT'S MORE OF A LINE OF WHERE WE ARE THE JOB CREATION, THE JOB, THE JOB CREATORS.
THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE TYPICAL STORIES WE SEE NOW, THEY'RE NOT WHERE IT'S AT.
SO THAT'S MORE SO OF WHERE WE ARE.
I KNOW THAT'S VERY FORWARD THINKING, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.
AGREED. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS TO SEE.
HEY, WHAT IS IT YOUR YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE LOOKING FOR? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR ENTERTAINMENT? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR RESTAURANTS? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR TOWNHOMES OR ARE THEY LOOKING FOR MIXED USE? AND THEN WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER ON HOW EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY OR HOW EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE SAME, YOU KNOW, PLAYING FIELD BECAUSE COMPROMISE.
NOBODY REALLY WALKS AWAY HAPPY.
DEPUTY MAYOR, ANYTHING TO ADD? NOTHING TO ADD, SIR. THANK YOU.
OKAY. AND THE SYMPOSIUM IS AUGUST 23RD.
YES, SIR. OKAY, SO PUT PUT US ALL DOWN, I GUESS.
OKAY. OH, NO, I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I DO.
I HAVE AN EYE. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
YES, I OKAY, SO PASSES FOUR ZERO.
THE DATE CERTAIN IS AUGUST 22ND.
WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WAS REFERRING TO IS THE SYMPOSIUM IS AUGUST 23RD.
THAT'S WHERE YOU HEARD THE 23RD.
SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
SO WHERE ARE WE NOW WITH TABLING? PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE AGENDA, RIGHT? THE WHOLE. WELL, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TABLE THE ENTIRE THE REST OF THE AGENDA.
YOU CAN STILL PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. SECOND READING OF THOSE WILL BE DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE SECOND READING OF THE ADOPTION OF THE LDC.
OKAY, SO SO WE CAN PROCEED FORWARD WITH WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE.
CORRECT. ONE AND TWO WERE WE DIDN'T DO ONE, WE DID TWO FIRST.
IT WON'T BE ADOPTED AND IT WON'T BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL SECOND READING.
SO WE EITHER WE CAN BEGIN THOSE NOW AND THEN THEY WON'T BE ADOPTED UNTIL THE ADOPTION OF THE LDC.
NOW THAT SO IS YOUR INTENTION THEN ON THE 22ND TO HAVE THESE COME BACK AT FIRST READING.
SO YEAH, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A FIRST READING AT THAT POINT.
SO WELL AS THE REPEAL, THE OTHER ONES ARE RELATED TO THE LDC, BUT ONLY IN THAT THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT LAND DEVELOPMENT RELATED, THAT ARE BEING MOVED TO THE TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
SO ITEMS THREE THROUGH THE REMAINDER ONES, YOU CAN PROCEED TO THOSE FIRST READING.
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BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AMENDMENTS AS IN THEY'RE GOING AWAY OR BEING CHANGED.THEY'RE BEING SHIFTED FROM ONE SECTION OF THE CODE TO ANOTHER SECTION.
OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.
YOU CAN PROCEED TO TABLE ONE IF YOU WANT TO.
TABLE ONE WE NEED I NEED A MOTION OKAY I NEED A I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE.
MOTION TO TABLE. ITEM NUMBER ONE TO AUGUST 22ND.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
SO ITEMS ONE AND TWO WERE TABLED TO AUGUST 22ND.
ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. OKAY.
ORDINANCE 20 2435, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 33 FIRE DEPARTMENT BY CREATING A NEW SUBCHAPTER, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU MAYOR. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EITHER ALISA OR JOAN TO COVER THE ITEM.
I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ITEM WE'RE ON BECAUSE WE MENTIONED ITEM NUMBER THREE.
WELL, IT'S TECHNICALLY BUSINESS TO BUSINESS.
I'M GOOD. BUSINESS NUMBER I WAS THINKING THREE.
PUBLIC HEARING THREE. SO WE'RE ON BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.
[BUSINESS:]
YES. CORRECT. THREE.SO THIS IS NO BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 35.
OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CASE FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS UNDER BUSINESS ONE THROUGH NINE.
SO IT WILL STILL REMAIN IN THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.
IT'LL JUST COME OUT OF TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
OKAY. IS THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING BUSINESS ITEMS, ONE THROUGH NINE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS.
SHE'S LEAVING. SHE? OH, SHE LEAVING? SEEING NONE.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
YES, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. I'M GOOD. COUNCILMAN.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS OR BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, 2 OR 2? NEW BUSINESS TWO ORDINANCE 20 2436 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE SEVEN TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES. CHAPTER 74 STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING.
SUBCHAPTER PARKING REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS WILL BE THE SAME FOR ALL OF THEM.
SO IT'S JUST A SHIFTING OF EXISTING LANGUAGE INTO A NEW SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO STEP RIGHT UP, SIR.
GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A REAL REASON WHY I CAME THIS EVENING.
I LIVE AT 1378 ASHEBORO CIRCLE.
NOW, IF YOU ALL HAVE. DON QUIXOTE FEELS JOUSTING, WINDMILLS, WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE THIS EVENING? I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO VOICE MY OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED PARKING OF VEHICLE RESIDENTIAL AREA RESTRICTION.
MOST SPECIFICALLY, YOU WANT TO PROHIBIT MORE THAN TWO CARS TO BE PARKED IN A DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE EXISTING CODE IS.
I FIND THIS RESTRICTION COMPLETELY UNWORKABLE.
I TOOK A DRIVE THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD LAST NIGHT, AND FOUND MORE THAN HALF THE HOUSEHOLDS HAVE AT LEAST 3 TO 4 CARS IN THEIR DRIVEWAY, ALL LEGALLY TAGGED, ALL PARKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
MOST HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE BOUGHT THESE HOUSES DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN HOA.
OUR DRIVEWAYS ARE DESIGNED TO HOLD FOUR CARS AS A LARGE MAJORITY.
YOU'RE LEGALLY REGISTERED VEHICLE AND YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.
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FIRST OFF, HOW IS THIS A PROBLEM? IS THERE ANY DOCUMENTATION SHOWING EXTRAORDINARY NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUES OF HAVING A THIRD OR FOURTH CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY? IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE VALUATION OF OUR HOMES.I KNOW MY HOUSE IS MORE THAN DOUBLED IN VALUE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS.
IN FACT, A HOUSE NOT AN HOA IS A VERY ATTRACTIVE THING.
HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO WHERE ARE THESE RESTRICTED CARS GOING TO BE PARKED? ARE YOU HONESTLY THINKING PARKING YOUR VEHICLE IN THE GRASS BESIDE YOUR DRIVEWAY OR ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS A SOLUTION? BY TAKING TWO CARS OFF YOUR DRIVEWAY AND PARKING THEM ON YOUR GRASS.
AS MOST RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN PALM BAY DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS AND CURBS.
OUR DRIVEWAY IS THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN PARK A CAR.
NO ONE. YEAH, AS THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
PEOPLE WALKING OR RIDING BICYCLES DO NOT CROSS OUR DRIVEWAY AS THEY WALK OR RIDE IN THE STREET.
NO VISION ISSUES ARE CREATED BY OUR VEHICLES PARKED.
TO SUMMARIZE, MOST HOMEOWNERS HAVE MORE THAN TWO DRIVERS AND TWO CARS.
MANY EXTENDED FAMILIES ARE LIVING TOGETHER BECAUSE THE COST OF HOME OWNERSHIP.
IT'S A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO RESTRICT THE FREEDOM OF GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT.
WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PARK OUR CARS? TO WHAT END DOES THIS IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CITIZENS? OUR CURRENT CODE, 93.044, MORE THAN ADDRESSES THE NEEDS TO CONTROL PARKING ON PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY.
LET THE CURRENT CODE STAND BY ITSELF.
JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN ENACT A RULE OF CODE DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO.
AND 185.123 SAYS THAT PROHIBITED PARKED AND PROHIBITED PARKING SECTION ONE A IT SAYS A MAXIMUM OF TWO OPERABLE VEHICLES PER PROPERTY ARE PERMITTED TO BE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY, OPPOSITE THE FRONT DOOR OF THE RESIDENCE.
SO OUR LANGUAGE SAYS TWO CARS IN A DRIVEWAY.
PERHAPS YOU'D LIKE TO ELABORATE.
WHEN I'M READING THIS, I BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS YOU HAVE MISINTERPRETED.
AND I WOULD LOVE TO SIT WITH YOU AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.
BECAUSE WHEN IT SAYS THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD PUBLISHED ONLINE.
NO, I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE CODE THAT WE'VE WE'VE HAD.
IT HASN'T CHANGED. I'M GOING TO.
SO PERHAPS YOU AND I COULD SIT DOWN.
I CAN, I CAN IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE VEHICLE SHALL NOT EXCEED TWO ON A SINGLE SIDE OR ON EACH SIDE, BUT IT'S TALKING ABOUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO IT'S TALKING OUTSIDE OF THE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S WHAT YOU PUT IN THE NEW WORDING.
OKAY. IT DOES NOT SAY IN THE EXISTING RULE PAVED DRIVEWAY.
YOU ADDED THAT IN MEANING YOU'RE RESTRICTING THE PERSON.
ONLY TWO CARS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.
I HOPE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PUBLISHED THAT I HAVEN'T THAT I'M LOOKING AT.
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AND I I'D LOVE TO TALK.
OKAY. YEAH. CAN WE JUST TALK THROUGH THAT FOR A SECOND? THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
RUTH CAULFIELD, 935 DOUGLAS STREET, SOUTHEAST.
HEARING THESE THINGS, THIS EQUALS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS NOW BECOMING THE HOA.
WHEN I MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO, EVERY PERSON THAT I ENCOUNTERED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN PALM BAY TOLD ME THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE CITY OF MOST REGULATIONS IN BREVARD COUNTY.
THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME THAT WE HAVEN'T CLEANED UP THE ORDINANCES.
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WE HAVEN'T CLEANED UP THESE OLD AND OUTDATED ORDINANCES THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.I'M ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT SAYS IT SHOULD BE FLIPPED ON ITS HEAD.
THE CITY SHOULD PAY ME RENT FOR ANY EASEMENTS, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO ON MY PROPERTY.
SO TO CONTINUE THIS OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT ON PERSONAL PROPERTY IS OUTRAGEOUS.
SO. SO MAYBE WITH THIS LAND USE THING THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE AS WELL, WE COULD ENTERTAIN GETTING RID OF SOME OF THESE OLD ORDINANCES THAT INTERFERE WITH PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT A REASONABLE PRICE OR A HOUSE AT A REASONABLE PRICE FOR ANYONE LIKE THE LADY THAT TALKED TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT HER DAUGHTER'S GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH HER UNTIL SHE'S 30 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FIND A HOUSE, AND THEN THEY WANT TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH THAT HOUSE.
SO THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, REALLY, AS FAR AS PALM BAY IS GETTING MORE OVERREACH INTO A PERSON'S PERSONAL PROPERTY.
MA'AM, HAVE YOU SQUARED THIS AWAY? I'VE GOT. AND IT'S SO THERE HASN'T BEEN A CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE CODE.
IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 180 5.1 23.
THAT IS OUR CURRENT CODE THAT CURRENTLY APPLIES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE IT'S THE LAST AMENDMENT TO THIS WAS ORDINANCE 20 2379.
IT DERIVES ORIGINALLY FROM THE 1974 CODE.
SO THIS NEW SECTION, WHICH IS BEING RENUMBERED 7425, IS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY 185 POINT 123.
AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT CODE AS IS CURRENTLY ENFORCED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IS THAT NO VEHICLE SHALL BE PARKED IN FRONT OF A RESIDENCE EXCEPT WITHIN THE PAVED DRIVEWAY.
THAT MEANS YOUR CARS CAN BE PARKED WITHIN THE PAVED DRIVEWAY.
THE PROHIBITION IS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN TWO OPERABLE VEHICLES ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
ALSO, IT'S PROHIBITED TO HAVE THEM IN THE REAR YARD OF A RESIDENCE UNLESS THE REAR YARD IS ENCLOSED BY A SIX FOOT TALL OPAQUE FENCE, SO IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT MORE THAN TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY. THE LANGUAGE IS WHILE I THE.
WE SHIFTED THE LANGUAGE, NOT CREATE NEW LANGUAGE.
SO IT CAN BE, IF YOU WISH FOR IT TO BE MORE ARTFULLY DRAFTED, CLEAR THAT THAT BASICALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE PERMITTED TO PARK IF YOU CAN, IF YOU'VE GOT A DRIVEWAY THAT FITS EIGHT CARS, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PERMITTED TO BE PARKED.
YOU HAVE SIX ON YOUR DRIVEWAY AND THREE IN THE IN THE GRASS.
BUT WHAT YOU HAD POSTED ONLINE, THAT'S THE VERBIAGE.
WELL THAT'S THE THE ORDINANCE.
THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE TO BE ADOPTED IS IS WHAT I, WHAT I READ WHICH WAS THE.
SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW COUNCIL, IF YOU LIKE, FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REWRITE THIS AT, AT A AT A JUNCTION, OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THE WAY IT READS? BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR TO ME, BUT CARRY ON.
I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. I COULD, I COULD PARK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CARS ON MY DRIVEWAY.
IT'S JUST I'M LIMITED TO OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.
SO MOVED. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN I.
WE ARE NOW ON NEW OR BUSINESS NUMBER THREE.
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FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE SECTION RELATED TO GOLF CARTS.
AGAIN, JUST MOVING IT FROM THE OLD SECTION TO THE NEW SECTION WITH NO CHANGES.
ANYONE WISH TO STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF? YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO CALL YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD.
I WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT MASTER CHIEF.
YOU KNOW, I WAS WILLING TO DO IT, BUT I'M VERY HAPPY THAT I DON'T HAVE TO COPY THAT, SIR.
HI. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, I WAS TRYING TO FIND A MAP ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT SAID, WHERE WERE THE DESIGNATED GOLF CART COMMUNITIES? WHERE COULD I LEGALLY? BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT GETTING ONE.
AND I'M SAYING, WELL, WHERE CAN I LEGALLY DRIVE IT WITHOUT GETTING ARRESTED? BECAUSE THEN THEY'D SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT COUNCILMAN BATTING WITH A TICKET LAST NIGHT.
SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IN VIERA.
OKAY, SO. BUT I COULDN'T FIND A MAP ANYWHERE THAT SAID WHERE WHERE IT WOULD BE LEGAL.
IN FACT, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS WHERE I LIVE, SO DEFINITELY THERE SHOULD BE NO GOLF CARTS WHERE I LIVE, EVIDENTLY, BUT IT'S VERY POPULAR EVERYWHERE I SEE GOING DOWN TO BAYSIDE LAKES ALL AROUND THE GOLF COURSES.
BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNATED GOLF CART COMMUNITIES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
THIS DO WE HAVE WHERE ARE THEY? THIS THIS ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT FORTH BECAUSE OF EMERALD LAKE'S PLANNED DESIGN FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
SO IT WAS CREATED FOR THEIR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT.
EVEN THOUGH WE DO KNOW PEOPLE RIDE AROUND IN THEIR GOLF CARTS AND PLACES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO WE DON'T ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RIDE AROUND LIKE ON EMERSON OR ALDRIN, BUT IT'S ILLEGAL.
AND I DO WANT TO ADD TO THAT, MA'AM, BECAUSE I APPRECIATED STAFF.
Y'ALL HAD LOOKED INTO IF IT COULD BE FOR AREAS LIKE BAYSIDE LAKES.
AND WHILE IT IS ILLEGAL, I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY BASED AND EDUCATING FOLKS AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING THEM AWAY FROM THEIR GOLF CART. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE.
BUT IT WAS BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS PROJECT, AS SHE SAID.
SO. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION.
IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING ON THIS IS.
I SEE GOLF CARTS DRIVING ALL AROUND.
ALL OVER MY NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING SOME LITTLE KIDS WHO CAN BARELY REACH THE PEDALS.
BUT ANYWAY YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY OVERREGULATE THAT.
BUT I THE PRIME THING OF THIS OF THIS ORDINANCE IS SAFETY ISSUES.
AND I THINK EFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSES SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AND YOU KNOW BANNING THE GOLF CARTS FROM, FROM WHERE THEY'RE RIDING AROUND NOW WOULD BE ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, FOR THE SAFETY ISSUES, IT'S A GOOD THING.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
WE'RE NOW ON NEW OR BUSINESS NUMBER FOUR, MR. RODRIGUEZ, ORDINANCE 20 2438, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, BY CREATING CHAPTER 102, PUBLIC NUDITY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I CAN TAKE THIS ONE IF YOU WANT, MADAM CHAIRMAN.
WELL, I'LL TAKE IT, MR. MAYOR. THIS THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING CLEANUP.
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THIS LANGUAGE REALLY DEALT WITH BEHAVIORAL ASPECTS.EXCEPT IT WAS INSIDE OF OUR ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CODE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO THIS THIS LAND, THE LANGUAGE IN THE EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH I CAN RELATE TO.
IT WAS IN ITS ONE IT WAS 173 .060 THROUGH.
YEAH, I SEE IT THROUGH 173 .999.
THANK YOU. NONE OF THIS, NONE OF THE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.
IT'S ACTUALLY THINK OF IT AS A HUGE WORD PROCESSING CUT AND PASTE.
IT WAS JUST CUT FROM ONE SECTION AND PASTE IT IN ANOTHER SECTION.
AND AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE ESTABLISHMENT HERE IN, WITHIN OUR CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. BUT THIS IS UNRELATED TO ANY TO ANY ESTABLISHMENT THIS WOULD REGULATE.
SEE, IT WAS PLACED IN ADULT ENTERTAINMENT WHICH WHICH THAT REGULATES ADULT ENTERTAINMENT AS IS DEFINED BOTH IN OUR CODE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN MANY OTHER ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CODES. HOWEVER, THIS APPLIES TO REGULAR REALLY PUBLIC CONDUCT, SO THIS WOULD COVER SOMEONE RUNNING AROUND A PUBLIC PARK NUDE.
THAT'S NOT ADULT ENTERTAINMENT.
IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A BEHAVIORAL REGULATION.
THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD. TAKE THE BAIT.
DON'T TAKE THE BAIT. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
AND I READ THIS THING FROM FROM BEGINNING TO END, AND I WAS LIKE, I WAS READING A NICE NOVEL.
I FEEL SORRY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT INDIVIDUAL NEEDS A PAY RAISE.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
ORDER, ORDER! I WANT TO FOLLOW THAT. BUT, MA'AM, WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE MIC, PLEASE.
YEAH, I WASN'T SURE I WANTED TO FOLLOW THAT.
RUTH CAULFIELD 935 DOUGLAS STREET.
PALM BAY. I'M GLAD YOU MOVED IT.
GIVEN THE TIMES WE'RE IN, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS DECIDED TO ALLOW PRIDE PARADES THAT HAVE PEOPLE WALKING DOWN THE STREET NUDE AND ALLOW IT.
SO I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE IT HERE IN PALM BAY THAT IT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED.
AND IT WELL, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN NO LONGER ALLOWED ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU JUST READ.
BUT I'M HOPING THAT A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES WILL BE ENFORCED.
SO I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE ENFORCED IF SOME SORT OF BAD BEHAVIOR COMES TO PALM BAY.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PASSES FOUR ZERO.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. ORDINANCE 20 2439, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, BY CREATING CHAPTER 103 CLOSURE AND ABANDONMENT OF EASEMENTS AND DRAINAGE RIGHTS OF WAY.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR.
AGAIN, THIS IS A REMOVAL FROM ONE SECTION AND COPYING IT AND PASTING IT INTO ANOTHER SECTION.
THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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CHAPTER 103 IMPACT FEES SUBCHAPTERS PARKS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES IMPACT FEES, AND WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP RIGHT UP, SIR.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT FEE IS.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT US, TO HELP US THROUGH SOME OF OUR HARD TIMES.
AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHEN WE HAVE IMPACT FEE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, $300 GOES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
$600 GOES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT PARKS AND RECREATION GETS $1,300.
SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'VE SET THE WRONG PRIORITY.
SAFETY SHOULD BE THE HIGHER PRIORITY, AND RECREATION SHOULD BE THE LEAST PRIORITY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SAYING, OH, WELL, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR SAFETY, OUR SAFETY, OUR SAFETY TO WHERE THE POINT YOU'RE ALMOST IMPOSING A TWO MIL ON THE TAXPAYERS FOR SAFETY.
BUT YOU'D PUT PARKS AND RECREATION AS A HIGHER PRIORITY OVER SAFETY.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MASTER CHIEF, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST HAD IMPACT FEE STUDIES, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO CATCH UP TO THAT.
I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT.
YES, MAYOR, BECAUSE I WANTED IF MISS SHERMAN CAN CLARIFY WITH PARKS IMPACT FEE, THEY CAN ONLY BE COLLECTED RESIDENTIALLY, CORRECT? OR. YES.
SO, LIKE MULTIFAMILY, I BELIEVE THEY DO AS WELL.
RIGHT. SO YEAH. ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? YEAH. BUT NOT COMMERCIAL.
THANK YOU. WILL THAT AVAILABLE TO US THAT STUDY? WHAT? WHAT? SHE'S ALREADY SPOKEN, BUT.
YES, MA'AM. SO SO WE WE'RE ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK AT THE TUESDAY COUNCIL MEETING.
BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, I'LL BE BRINGING BACK A DISCUSSION ON THE IMPACT FEES.
IF I CAN BRIEFLY ANSWER MR. BARTON'S QUESTION, THE 2018 STUDY THAT WAS LAST DONE FOR PARKS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES, MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN THE CONSULTANT LOOKED AT IT AND TALKED TO US ABOUT IT, IS THAT THE THE DATA THAT STAFF GAVE BACK THEN IN 2018 ON THE NEEDS FOR THE PARKS WAS FAR GREATER THAN THE NEEDS THAT WERE WRITTEN DOWN BY THE STAFF AT THAT TIME FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE.
SO THE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO KIND OF SHIFT.
SO THE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL NEXT WEEK WILL BE THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES ON TRANSPORTATION, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES AND THE RATES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED TO INCREASE BY THE CONSULTANTS TO DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO.
YES. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.
I JUST REALIZED THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THIS ONE I ACTUALLY NEEDED TO COVER ON THE IMPACT FEES.
SO THIS ONE IS NOT A COMPLETE COPY AND PASTE.
I MEANT TO SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING.
THE CHANGE TO THIS IS AN ADDITION OF A GOVERNMENT PROPERTIES DEFINITION AND A SECTION THAT SAYS NO POLICE, PARK OR FIRE IMPACT FEE SHALL BE IMPOSED, CHARGED OR ASSESSED ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY, AND WE'RE MOSTLY LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE OF CITY PROPERTIES.
IT'S ALL GOING BASICALLY INTO THE SAME.
SO WE WERE ASKING TO EXEMPT GOVERNMENT PROPERTIES.
IT'S SOMETHING LIKE BREVARD COUNTY HAS DONE FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S A REQUEST THAT WAS ADDED.
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THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE TO THIS ORDINANCE.THAT MEANS IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TO COME IN, CORRECT? YES. AND WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, THAT CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED IF YOU WANT TO RECRUIT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY TO COME HERE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO DEVELOP.
NOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY TAXES ANYWAY.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS.
YES. YEAH. WE WENT THROUGH SOME ISSUES.
THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY SO THAT.
SO ARE WE REFERRING TO THE NEXT DOOR TO STORAGE THAT WE APPROVED? SHOULD THE CLERK OF COURT WANTING TO EXPAND A NEW BUILDING, BUILDING COURT IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN THAT THEY WEREN'T.
THEY WEREN'T. I'M JUST SAYING THAT HILLARY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A COURTHOUSE, BUT IT DIDN'T.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT, GREAT SPOT.
OKAY. BECAUSE. SO YEAH, I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
SECOND AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN MR. RODRIGUEZ. ORDINANCE 20 2441.
PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS AGAIN A COPY AND PASTE.
IT'S ABOUT PRIVATE LIFT STATION POWER.
ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING CHAPTER 204 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSE.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
ORDINANCE 20 2443, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING CHAPTER 205 WATER SHORTAGE EMERGENCY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD SIR.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS THE ONE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE THE MOST UNAPPRECIATIVE OF.
I COULD HAVE WHEN I HAVE THINGS LIKE THE EPA STORMWATER MANAGEMENT STUFF DICTATING WHICH ARE NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS DICTATING ON WHAT I HAVE TO DO IN MY LIFE.
IT KIND OF BOTHERS ME GREATLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE DICTATING WHAT I HAVE TO DO AND HOW I HAVE TO LIVE, BUT I DON'T GET A VOTE THEM IN OR OUT OF OFFICE, BUT THEY HAVE A MASSIVE IMPACT ON ME THAT REVERTS RIGHT BACK TO THE CHEVRON RULING.
IF I HAVE THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES TELLING ME HOW I HAVE TO LIVE.
CAN I NOW START CHARGING? SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN NOW START SAYING BECAUSE OF THE CHEVRON RULING, IF I CAN NOW START CONTESTING SOME STUFF LIKE THIS.
THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE'RE HAVING ALREADY RUNNING INTO WATER SHORTAGES AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN WHY ARE WE EXPANDING THE GROWTH? BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE THE GROWTH CAPABILITY.
SO WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE WATER.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THE GROWTH.
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LIFESTYLE, THEN THAT SHOULD BE THE REGULATING CRITERIA.THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS IS WE THEN TAKE THE WATER FROM THE WATER, SEWAGE, WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GET RECLAIMED GETS PUMPED DOWN A DEEP WELL WHERE IT CANNOT BE USED.
AND WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS OF GALLONS A DAY.
YET YOU'RE GOING TO REGULATE ME FROM AN EPA OR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.
I HAVE GREAT CONFLICT WITH THIS.
AND SO IF I HAVE A CHANCE TO GET YOU TO TAKE THAT OFF THE BOOKS, THEN I WOULD.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MA'AM? OKAY. COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WELL, I'VE ALWAYS.
I FELT LIKE OUR STAFF AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE BAYFRONT AREA OR JUST WATER OUR WATERFRONT AREA.
SO I AGREE WITH YOU, BILL, ON THIS ONE IS I GUESS IT MIGHT BE MORE FOR OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KIND OF.
YEAH, HONE IT IN LIKE YOU HINTED TOWARDS HOME RULE EARLIER.
IN REGARDS TO THE STATE LEVEL AND OF COURSE THE STATE PUT THIS IN PLACE.
SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A BROAD ASK AT THIS POINT.
AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO NOW I CAN LOOK FURTHER INTO IT OKAY.
AND WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THIS AT A LATER DATE.
ALL RIGHT. SO ANYTHING ELSE, MISS SHERMAN OR.
I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST MAKE SURE SO EVERYONE KNOWS.
I'M SURE MR. BATTEN IS AWARE I.
THIS ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY FIRST ADOPTED IN 1981.
WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT SINCE THEN.
WE DIDN'T TOUCH IT. YES, MA'AM.
OKAY, OKAY. MAYBE MAYBE INSTEAD OF THAT, WE'LL HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ LOOK AT THIS.
AS WHAT? WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT STAFF, YOU WANT TO DIRECT ME TO LOOK AT IT.
WE CAN. WE CAN SPEAK FURTHER AND WE CAN LOOK AT I CAN LOOK INTO WHAT WE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WHAT RIGHTS AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE DO HAVE WITHOUT ACTUALLY OVERSTEPPING OUR BOUNDS INTO AN AREA THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PREEMPTED BY EITHER THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
A LOT'S CHANGED. SO HOPEFULLY YOU COULD CULTIVATE SOMETHING THERE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. SO HOW WOULD YOU WANT THAT? WE JUST MOVE FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT OR.
OKAY. SO YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.
SO THAT THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.
THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.
DID WE VOTE ON THE WE WE VOTED ON THE I THOUGHT I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO VOTE.
NO, NO, NO, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON ACTUALLY THE ORDINANCE.
AND THEN GOING FORWARD YOU'LL LOOK INTO IT AND BRING IT BACK TO US.
SECOND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.
ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.