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OKAY, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

[CALL TO ORDER:]

I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 2024 DASH 18 TO ORDER.

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

PLEASE RISE.

PLEASE TURN AND FACE THE FLAG.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HURRAH! MISS JONES, ROLL CALL.

MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HERE.

MISS SHERMAN HERE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. HERE.

OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO MADAM SHERMAN.

GO AHEAD. YES, SIR.

ONE ONE REQUESTED AGENDA REVISION.

FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IF WE COULD MOVE PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO TO BE HEARD FIRST.

SO BASICALLY, SWITCH THE ORDER OF ONE AND TWO.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. OKAY, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE KEEPING SCORE WE'RE DOING NUMBER TWO FIRST IN PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE'RE NOW ON BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[BUSINESS:]

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MR. PHIL WEINBERG TO THE VACANCY OF CITY COUNCIL SEAT THREE.

SECOND GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR, NOTHING TO ADD, BUT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO MR. WEINBERG. I BELIEVE IT'S WELL DESERVED.

THIS IS A CITIZEN THAT DISPLAY GREAT SERVICE TO THE CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

SERVED ON MULTIPLE BOARDS, CHAIR MULTIPLE BOARDS, NOT ONLY AT THE CITY LEVEL, AT THE COUNCIL LEVEL, AT THE COUNTY LEVEL AS WELL.

JUST LIKE TO CONGRATULATE THEM.

ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR SAID IT BEST.

APPRECIATE YOU. PHIL.

I ALREADY SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES.

BILL BATTEN AND PHIL WEINBERG WERE THE MOST QUALIFIED FROM DAY ONE.

IT'S STILL HARD TO THIS DAY, SO HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME.

BILL, YOU'LL.

BUT PHIL, WELCOME TO THE TEAM.

IT'S BUDGET SEASON SO LET'S GET TO IT.

THANK YOU. SO MR. WEINBERG I'LL BE VOTING NO.

AS YOU KNOW I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH THE APPOINTMENT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT YOU SACRIFICED A LOT.

I DID RANK YOU.

I JUST GOT ALL THE INFORMATION, AND I MADE THOSE DECISIONS TODAY.

BUT I DID RANK BILL BEFORE YOU.

JUST JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S NOTHING PERSONAL BECAUSE I VALUE EVERYTHING YOU DO.

I JUST FEEL THAT ANYONE THAT SITS ON THIS DAIS, AS YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE ELECTED.

BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. PASSES 2 TO 1.

DEPUTY MAYOR OR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

I WILL. I'LL PROCEED DOWN TO MR. WEINBERG.

I'M SUPPOSED TO PICK US BOTH UP.

OKAY, AT THIS POINT, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I PHILIP WEINBERG I PHILIP WEINBERG DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT, THAT I WILL SUPPORT, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, CONSTITUTION AND GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, DOMESTIC OR FOREIGN, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN.

THAT I WILL UPHOLD THE PALM BAY CITY CHARTER.

THAT I WILL UPHOLD THE PALM BAY CITY CHARTER AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND BEAR TRUE FAITH AND BEAR FRUIT, TRUE FAITH, LOYALTY, AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME LOYALTY AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE SAME, AND THAT I AM ENTITLED TO HOLD, AND THAT I AM ENTITLED TO HOLD OFFICE UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

OFFICE UNDER THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND THE CONSTITUTION AND THE CONSTITUTION, AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM ALL DUTIES, AND THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY PERFORM ALL DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL.

SEAT THREE. THE OFFICE OF CITY COUNCIL.

SEAT THREE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER THE CITY OF PALM BAY, UPON WHICH I AM ABOUT TO ENTER.

CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU.

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OKAY, ANYONE WHO KNOWS ME KNOWS I'M A MAN OF FEW WORDS, SO THANKFULLY I WON'T BE MAKING A LONG SPEECH.

AS AS COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, I'VE SERVED ON A LOT OF BOARDS IN MY LIFE.

FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL, EXISTING CITY COUNCIL, FOR SUPPORTING ME AND FOR HAVING CONFIDENCE IN ME.

I WANT TO THANK MY WIFE OF 43 PLUS YEARS FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING ME.

AND I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I WILL DO.

I'M NOT JUST GOING TO KEEP THAT SEAT WARM.

I WILL BE FULLY INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES UNTIL THE ELECTION.

AND I WILL DO WHAT I ALWAYS DID ON ALL THE BOARDS THAT I'VE SERVED ON, AND THAT IS TO MAKE THE BEST DECISIONS IN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO THANK YOU, AND I'LL BE AVAILABLE ANYTIME.

THANK YOU.

I'LL BE TALKING TO YOU.

OKAY. RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO, AS YOU WERE MR., MR. RODRIGUEZ, PLEASE READ THE CAPTION.

THAT'S RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 33, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY CREATING TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROVIDE FOR THE GOVERNANCE AND REGULATION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING ZONING, ACCESSORY USES, SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS, SIGNS, RESOURCES, STREETS, PARKING, BUILDING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT, REVIEW PROCEDURES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU SIR. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND NOW MISS SHERMAN.

THANK YOU SIR.

SO THIS IS THE WE ASKED TO MOVE THIS ITEM UP BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE THAT ESTABLISHES THE NEW ORDINANCES.

AS I'VE DISCUSSED WITH EACH OF YOU.

AND I JUST WANT TO STATE THIS FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PUBLIC.

WE ARE GOING TO GO THROUGH A FULL PRESENTATION TONIGHT ON ALL OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

OUR ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS IS HERE TO HELP US WITH THAT PRESENTATION, AND WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT IN GREAT DETAIL.

AND WE WANT THIS TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERYONE WHO'S HERE TO ENGAGE AND ASK QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK.

WE WILL ASK AS, AS I MENTIONED TO YOU ALL AND SHARED WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT YOU CONSIDER TABLING THE ITEMS BEFORE VOTING ON THEM TONIGHT TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE TIME TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC, BASED ON SOME QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED THIS WEEK.

AND IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THAT WE HAVE TWO DATES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT AT THE END, BUT TWO DATES THAT WE'D LIKE TO PROPOSE FOR YOU FOR THAT DATE.

IT COULD BE TABLED TO, BUT NOT TO HOLD US UP.

I WANT TO MOVE INTO PRESENTATION.

I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO FIRST TURN IT OVER TO JOAN BROWN, OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

AND BEFORE I DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO COMMEND HER.

LISA FRAZIER, OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR KIMBERLY HAGLER, WHO'S HERE WITH US AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TEAM WHO JUST WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS WORK FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB TRYING TO BRING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR.

SO THAT'S BEEN A BIG PART OF THIS PUSH.

BUT JOAN, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

SO, MA'AM, JUST BEFORE.

YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO YOU TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON ON THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED FROM WHAT I CONSIDER THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE, IS OUR COMMUNITY NUMBER ONE AND AND ALL OF THE PARTNERS. AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE DISCUSSION OF TABLING ENSUES TO GET THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER ALL THESE DOCUMENTS. AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT FORWARD.

AND IDEALLY, COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THE SEVERITY OF THIS BECAUSE FOR US TO CHANGE, ALTHOUGH WHETHER IT'S IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION, WE FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERYONE AGREES THAT WE'RE ALL ALL SHIPS ARE SAILING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

WITH THAT MADAM GIANCARLO BROWN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY JUST A FEW WORDS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO PAT ZUZOVSKY WITH INSPIRE PLACEMAKING COLLECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING FOR STAFF.

THIS IMPLEMENTS A LOT OF IT IMPLEMENTS THE POLICY, THE POLICIES OF THE COMP PLAN UPDATE THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN LATE SUMMER 2023.

THIS THESE CHANGES REPRESENT ESSENTIALLY THREE BUCKETS OF AMENDMENTS.

THE FIRST AND FOREMOST IS THOSE THE COMP PLAN RELATED AMENDMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE UPDATED IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND THAT

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IS A BOARD OF STATUTE REQUIREMENT.

THE SECOND BUCKET OF CHANGES ARE REALLY STAKEHOLDER DRIVEN, MORE OF THE INPUT THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM OUR ENGINEERS AND OUR DEVELOPERS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE PUD ZONING CODE, THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING CODE, AND THE SUBDIVISION CODE.

AND REALLY A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE STREAMLINING THE PROCESS, ELIMINATING THE NUMEROUS PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WERE KIND OF REDUNDANT.

AND THEN THE THIRD BUCKET OF CHANGES IS REALLY A LOT OF THAT CITY AND COUNCIL DRIVEN TEXTUAL AMENDMENTS THAT WE TYPICALLY BRING BEFORE PNC AND COUNCIL AT ANY OTHER NORMAL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

AND I WILL STATE, YOU KNOW, WE WE DID HOLD A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, AND WE WERE CERTAINLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THERE'S MORE INPUT THAT WE WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AND THAT WE CAN OFFER THESE LISTENING SESSIONS AND, AND ENCOURAGE MORE DIALOG IN THAT SHOULD COUNCIL VOTE TO TABLE.

BUT THE THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS JUST THE, I GUESS, THE MAGNITUDE OF THE CHANGES AND HOW IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THE CODE. AND REALLY THE REASON FOR THAT IS WHEN WE WHEN WE DECIDED TO TAKE UNDER TAKE OVER THIS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE, WE REALIZED THERE ARE A LOT OF CHAPTERS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT DIDN'T REALLY BELONG THERE.

THEY BELONG MORE UNDER THE PLAN, THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND WITH THAT CAME THEN RENUMBERING OF THE CHAPTERS, WHICH THEN CAME, YOU KNOW, A BASIC REPEAL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE ENTIRE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THAT THERE ARE CHANGES, AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE SIGNIFICANT, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT LOOKS MORE MASSIVE THAN IT IS BECAUSE OF THE REPEAL AND REPLACE.

SO AGAIN, BUT KUDOS TO THE TEAM AND LISA FOR TAKING THIS ON.

THIS HAS BEEN ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER AN 18 MONTH PROCESS FOR US.

THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS PAT. I'M A I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH INSPIRE PLACEMAKING, AND I HAVE A POWERPOINT THAT I'M GOING TO SHOW TODAY.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN WHAT YOU'RE USED TO, BUT WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COVER ALL THE CHAPTERS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.

SO FOR THE AGENDA, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND.

HOW DID WE GET HERE? WHY ARE WE MAKING THESE CHANGES? THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE.

SO WHAT WE WERE TASKED TO DO AS CONSULTANTS FOR THE CITY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE MAJOR CHANGES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE LENGTHY PORTION OF THE OF THE POWERPOINT.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS.

SO AS JOAN MENTIONED YOU ADOPTED YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAST YEAR.

IT BECAME EFFECTIVE IN JULY OF 2023.

AND EVEN BEFORE THAT, WE STARTED THE PROCESS OF UPDATING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SOME POLICIES HAD CHANGED, AND A LOT OF POLICIES IN THE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WILL TALK ABOUT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THIS IS WHERE YOU IMPLEMENT THESE POLICIES.

THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED TO COME IN AND UPDATE THE CODE.

NOW THE STATUTES STATE THAT YOU HAVE ONE YEAR, FROM THE MOMENT THAT YOU ADOPT YOUR COMPLAINT, TO COMPLETE YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE STATE.

THEY DON'T HAVE TO REVIEW IT.

IT'S JUST THE STATUTES SAY THAT AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.

IN TERMS OF THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT JOAN STARTED TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE STARTED THE PROCESS BACK IN APRIL, AS PART OF OUR SCOPE, WE INCLUDED ONE PUBLIC WORKSHOP, WHICH THAT WORKSHOP WAS HELD IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND THEN WE ALSO INCLUDED THREE VIRTUAL MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.

STAFF SENT EMAILS TO A BUNCH OF PEOPLE, ENGINEERS, LAND USE ATTORNEYS, REAL ESTATE PEOPLE, AND WE HAD THOSE THREE SESSIONS.

NOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE WORKSHOP, ONLY ONE PERSON SHOWED UP, BUT IT WAS RECORDED AND IT'S AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

THEN FOR THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS, WE HAD ABOUT SEVEN PEOPLE FOR THE FIRST TWO AND MAYBE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE FOR THE LAST ONE.

SO WHEN STAFF STARTED WORKING ON THE PUD AND THE SUBDIVISION SECTIONS OF THE CODE, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DO THAT AND IT WAS NOT PART OF OUR SCOPE, THEY ALSO HELD A BUNCH OF PUBLIC WORKSHOPS AND INPUT SESSIONS.

THEY WORKED WITH THE ENGINEER ENGINEERING COMPANIES.

THEY HAD ALSO VIRTUAL STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS.

AND SO THEY GATHER INPUT, THEY PASS THAT INPUT INTO US AND WE WERE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER ON IT.

AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, AS WE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS, SOME OF THESE CHANGES CAME EVEN FROM FROM YOU, FROM THE COUNCIL.

SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, STAFF WOULD CALL ME AND IT'S LIKE THEY WANT TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE CODE, LET'S PUT IT IN.

SO IT HAS BEEN A COMBINATION OF, OF DIFFERENT INPUT SOURCES.

BUT IN TERMS OF THE THE SCOPE, WHAT WE WERE TASKED TO DO AS CONSULTANTS, NUMBER ONE, IF WE'RE GOING TO TOUCH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO MAKE IT

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CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHY DON'T WE REORGANIZE IT? BECAUSE IT'S A MESS RIGHT NOW.

LET'S PUT THAT AS PART OF YOUR SCOPE.

SO WE'RE GLAD TO DO THAT.

THEN OF COURSE IMPLEMENT ALL THE POLICIES THAT YOU ADOPTED.

THAT WAS THE MAIN GOAL OF IT AND THEN UPDATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, CODES GET OLD AFTER A WHILE, SOME OF THE CROSS-REFERENCES GET OUTDATED, REFERENCES TO STATUTES TO OTHER AGENCIES, GET OUTDATED NAMES OF DEPARTMENTS GET OUTDATED. SO THAT WAS THE OTHER TASK THAT WE HAD.

SO IN TERMS OF THE SCHEDULE.

SO I MENTIONED THAT WE STARTED BACK IN APRIL.

THAT'S WHEN WE HELD THE KICKOFF WITH STAFF.

THEN WE ISSUED THE FIRST DRAFT IN JULY.

AND THEN WE HAD THAT PUBLIC WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER.

AT THAT POINT, UP UNTIL THAT POINT, YOU HAD A, YOU KNOW, A PLANNING DEPARTMENT, A GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT THAT WENT THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES.

SO LISA CAME IN BRAND NEW TO THIS PROJECT.

SHE HAD A DRAFT TO REVIEW.

SO OF COURSE, THAT PUT A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE FOR CITY STAFF AND FOR US TO GET BACK ON TRACK.

SO IT TOOK A LITTLE WHILE, BUT WE HELD WORK SESSIONS, WE WORKED WITH STAFF, CONTINUE WORKING ON IT, AND THEN IN JULY OF THIS YEAR WAS WHEN THE NEXT DRAFT WAS ISSUED.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY, THE ADOPTION HEARINGS.

SO BASICALLY THE PLAN OR TYPICALLY YOU DO PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FIRST, THEN YOU GO TO CITY COUNCIL FIRST READING AND THEN CITY COUNCIL SECOND READING.

IN TERMS OF THE REORGANIZATION OF THE CODE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE CURRENT OUTLINE OF THE CODE.

IF YOU, YOU KNOW, READ ONE BY ONE, YOU START WONDERING, WHERE DO I FIND ZONING? OH WAIT, IT'S WAY AT THE BOTTOM.

WHERE DO I FIND PARKING REGULATIONS? IT'S NOT EASY TO NAVIGATE.

SO AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE'RE NOT DOING JUST AMENDMENTS TO THE CODE.

WE'RE DOING REPEAL AND REPLACE BECAUSE WE REALLY TURNED IT UPSIDE DOWN.

WE MOVED SECTIONS AROUND.

AND WHEN YOU TRY TO DO THAT WITH TRACKING CHANGES, YOU KNOW THE STRUCTURE UNDERLYING IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MESS.

SO THAT'S THE OUTLINE YOU HAVE TODAY.

THE ONE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HAS TEN CHAPTERS, STARTING WITH GENERAL PROVISIONS.

IT INTRODUCES THE THE CODE.

THEN WE GO TO DEFINITIONS.

WE BROUGHT ALL THE DEFINITIONS THAT WERE FOUND ANYWHERE IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, PUT THEM IN ONE CHAPTER.

THEN WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.

ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT PROCESSING AND APPLICATION IN THE CITY.

ZONING, WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT CHAPTER TO.

THEN WE'RE GOING TO STANDARD FOR ACCESSORY, TEMPORARY AND OTHER USES.

WE GO TO TREE PROTECTION, LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING STREETS, PARKING AND LOADING, SUBDIVISION SITE AND BUILDING DESIGN SIGNS NATURAL RESOURCES AND ADULT ENTERTAINMENT. AND I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE CHAPTERS IN A MINUTE.

BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE MAIN TASK WAS IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE GATHERED A LIST OF POLICIES THAT HAD SOME MENTION OF LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS OR SOME RELATIONSHIP TO LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

WE CREATED A TABLE AND WE IN THE SECOND COLUMN, WE TOLD STAFF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THAT POLICY IN THE THIRD COLUMN, STAFF BASICALLY GAVE US COMMENTS BACK YES TO THAT OR NO, LET'S NOT DO IT THAT WAY.

LET'S DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN IS THE ACTION HOW WE DID IT, WHERE YOU FIND THAT CHANGE.

SO THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE.

WE THERE IS A POLICY IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT SAYS CONSIDER OFFERING DEVELOPMENT BONUSES TO DEVELOPERS WHO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS IN SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS THAT EXCEED 25 UNITS PER UNITS.

SO WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE LANGUAGE.

AND STAFF SAID, OH YEAH, BUT REMEMBER THAT WE DO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CODE RELATED TO THIS TOPIC.

SO MAKE SURE YOU INCORPORATE THAT.

SO OUR ANSWER WAS OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO PROPOSE ALL THE BONUSES AND INCENTIVES IN ONE PLACE.

LOOK AT CHAPTER 173.

SO YOU KNOW BASED ON OUR REVIEW OF THE PLAN AND REVIEW OF THE CODE, WE GROUPED THE CHANGES INTO FOUR CATEGORIES.

NUMBER ONE ADDRESSED INTERNAL INCONSISTENCIES.

I ALREADY MENTIONED THOSE.

NUMBER TWO REVISE ALL EXTERNAL CROSS-REFERENCES, MEANING STATUTES.

FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE MOVE SECTIONS OUT OF THE LDCS.

WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE CODE FROM, YOU KNOW, BEING OUTSIDERS.

AND WE'VE WORKED ON MANY CODES AROUND THE STATE.

WE REALIZED THAT SOME ITEMS DIDN'T BELONG IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ABOUT LAND DEVELOPMENT, AND WE HAD STUFF THAT HAD TO DO WITH ITEMS THAT BELONGED TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, BUT NOT IN THIS TITLE.

SO WE CREATED A LIST OF THOSE SECTIONS, WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE MOVED TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACE.

THE NEXT GROUPING WERE THE REQUESTS THAT CAME FROM STAFF.

IT'S LIKE, THIS IS NOT RELATED TO THE COMP PLAN, BUT WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH SUBDIVISIONS.

WE'RE HAVING A HARD TIME WITH PODS.

CAN WE PLEASE INCORPORATE THAT IN THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING? OR. WE HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT WITH COUNCIL.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS THIS.

LET'S LUMP THEM ALL IN.

SO I MENTIONED THIS IS THE TABLE OF CONTENTS.

I'M JUST GOING TO GO ONE BY ONE.

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SO THE FIRST ONE IS YOUR GENERAL PROVISIONS.

SO THIS CHAPTER EXISTS TODAY.

BUT WHEN YOU READ IT IT TALKS ABOUT HOW THIS CHAPTER IS ESTABLISHED, NOT THIS TITLE, NOT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, JUST THE CHAPTER.

SO THE LANGUAGE WAS KIND OF STRANGE.

SO WE CLEANED IT UP SO THAT THIS IS THE SETTING UP THE ENTIRE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THE ENTIRE TITLE.

FOR THE SECOND CHAPTER, THIS IS WHERE WE PUT ALL THE DEFINITIONS.

SO RIGHT NOW YOUR CODE HAS DEFINITIONS IN EVERY CHAPTER WHEN WE COMPILE THEM ALL IN ONE PLACE, WE REALIZED THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE FOUR DEFINITIONS FOR THE SAME WORD, AND SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT NECESSARY.

SOMETIMES IT IS NECESSARY.

SOMETIMES IF IT RELATES, FOR EXAMPLE, TO THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, YOU MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS.

SO WE CLARIFY THAT THERE'S ONE DEFINITION THAT IS GENERAL.

THE OTHER THE OTHER ONE WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE FOR THE PURPOSE OF FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT THIS MEANS WHATEVER.

SO WE CONSOLIDATED THEM.

THEN WE UPDATED THEM TO MATCH STATUTES.

BECAUSE THERE ARE MANY DEFINITIONS THAT THE CITY RELIES ON THE STATUTES, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, ADULT LIVING FACILITIES, CHILD CARE FACILITIES.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD CROSS-REFERENCES AND THE DEFINITIONS MATCHED.

SOMETIMES IN SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS, WE FOUND STANDARDS LIKE IT WAS DEFINING WHAT IS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS A SECONDARY UNIT THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR. AND THEN IT STARTS TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE DIMENSIONS BEDROOMS. AND YOU'RE LIKE IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE DEFINITION.

IT BELONGS IN THE CHAPTER THAT HAS STANDARDS FOR THOSE.

SO WE MOVE THOSE OUT.

WE FOUND A BUNCH OF TERMS THAT WERE NOT EVEN MENTIONED ANYWHERE IN THE CODE, SO THEY WERE JUST TAKING UP SPACE.

SO WE DELETED THOSE AND THEN WE ADDED A BUNCH OF NEW DEFINITIONS.

THE LIST YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS IS NOT INCLUSIVE OF ALL OF THE NEW DEFINITIONS.

WE HAVE MORE THAN THOSE.

AND THE IDEA OF HAVING THESE DEFINITIONS IS TO HELP STAFF, TO HELP THE DEVELOPERS, TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THEIR FACILITY, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN IN TERMS OF THE CITY AND THE CODE? SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH THIS CHAPTER.

THE SECOND CHAPTER IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT CHAPTERS HERE BECAUSE IT RELATES TO HOW DO I GO? HOW DO I NAVIGATE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS I WANT TO ANNEX? I WANT TO CHANGE THE CODE.

I WANT TO GET A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.

I WANT TO GET A VARIANCE.

HOW DO I DO THAT.

SO WE PUT ALL THAT IN ONE CHAPTER.

SO BASICALLY WHEN YOU COME IN THERE IS A SECTION THAT DESCRIBES STEPS THAT ARE COMMON FOR ALL APPLICATIONS, LIKE A PRE MEETING.

THERE'S NO NEED TO REPEAT PREAPP MEETING IN EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION THERE IS JUST ONE PLACE.

WHAT IS THE PRE MEETING, WHAT IS IT FOR AND WHAT IT IS NOT.

HEARINGS. ALL THE HEARINGS HAVE THE SAME PROCEDURES.

LET'S PUT THEM JUST IN ONE PLACE.

THEN WE HAVE A SECTION THAT HAS THE THE EC APPLICATION TYPES LIKE ANNEXATIONS PLAN AMENDMENTS, REZONINGS, LDC AMENDMENTS, SITE PLANS, CONDITIONAL USES, VARIANCES, MASTER PLANS AND THOSE WERE VERY EASY TO PUT IN ONE CHAPTER IN ONE PART OF THIS CHAPTER.

AND ONE THING THAT WE TRIED TO DO WITH THIS IS THAT THERE HAD TO BE UNIFORMITY.

NUMBER ONE PURPOSE.

WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF AN ANNEXATION PROCEDURE? AND NUMBER TWO, WHAT DO I SUBMIT TO GET MY APPLICATION APPROVED? NUMBER THREE, WHAT IS THE REVIEW CRITERIA? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COUNCIL, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

IT'S LIKE WHAT IS THE CRITERIA I HAVE TO CONSIDER BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.

THERE ARE CERTAIN ITEMS THAT I SHOULD BE CHECKING CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE CHECK CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHECK.

IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHECK.

SO WE INCLUDED ALL THOSE REVIEW CRITERIAS.

NOW WE SEPARATED THE PUDS FROM THIS GROUPING BECAUSE THEY DESERVE A WHOLE PART.

BECAUSE THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN YOUR REGULAR PROCEDURES.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WORKED WITH LISA AND STAFF FIXING THAT PART A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND WE HAVE YOU HAVE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING IN THE CITY CALLED THE REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER PUD.

IT COMES FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO IT, BUT WE MADE SURE THAT IT HAD ITS OWN SECTION.

SO WHENEVER SOMEBODY IS DEALING WITH PROPERTY IN THAT AREA, THAT'S WHERE THEY GO.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE SUBDIVISION SECTION.

AND LISA WILL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE IN A LITTLE WHILE.

VACATING PLATS CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT, WHICH YOU'VE HAD THERE.

AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS AND PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE TRANSPORTATION.

SO IN TERMS OF THE MAJOR CHANGES WE CREATED A TABLE AND IT'S REALLY EASY TO GO THROUGH THE TABLE AND SEE, OKAY I WANT TO APPLY FOR A VARIANCE OKAY. SO IF I LOOK AT THE LINE NUMBER ONE WHICH SECTION DO I GO TO TO LEARN MORE ABOUT VARIANCES.

NUMBER TWO WHAT APPROVAL TYPE IS THAT.

IS THAT A LEGISLATIVE OR QUASI JUDICIAL.

AND NUMBER THREE WHICH BODIES ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING MY APPLICATION.

DOES IT GO TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT? DOES IT GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

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DOES IT GO TO CITY COUNCIL.

SO THIS TABLE SUMMARIZES EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE.

SO AGAIN IT'S IT'S A CHANGE IN THE CODE BUT IT'S RESTATING STUFF THAT IS ALREADY THERE.

LET ME SEE WHAT ELSE FROM HERE.

I TALKED ABOUT THE REVIEW PROCEDURE AND CRITERIA.

SO YOU HAVE IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW THE BAYFRONT, TWO DISTRICTS, THE BAYFRONT DISTRICT WAS IT'S SUNSET.

YEAH. SO WE NEEDED TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.

SO WE CHANGED THE NAMES OF THE DISTRICTS TO A LITTLE BIT MORE GENERIC NAME.

SO INSTEAD OF BAYFRONT MIXED USE, IT'S COMMUNITY MIXED USE.

AND INSTEAD OF BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE IS URBAN MIXED USE.

SO. AND THEN WE'RE OPENING THE DOORS TO USE THOSE DISTRICTS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

AND THEN WE ARE ALSO CREATING A WHOLE PROCESS FOR THOSE MIXED USE DISTRICTS TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND THEN LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE WE HAVE HERE.

SO FOR THE SUBDIVISION PART OF THIS CHAPTER WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAFF.

SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WE CHANGED RIGHT NOW IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT SAYS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, YOU HAVE TO SET ASIDE 20% OF OPEN SPACE IN YOUR CODE THAT'S ONLY REQUIRED FOR PUDS.

SO WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL SUBDIVISIONS, ALL RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, WILL HAVE TO MEET THAT STANDARD.

AND LISA, YOU CAN ADD SOME COMMENTS IF YOU NEED TO, BUT REMOVE THE MINOR SUBDIVISION SECTION BECAUSE IT WAS NOT REALLY USED, NOT NECESSARY, AND REDEFINED THE LOT SPLIT AND PROCEDURES.

SITE WORK PERMIT IS A IS A VERY IMPORTANT PERMIT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND IT WAS NOT MENTIONED OR EXPLAINED ANYWHERE IN THE CODE.

IT WAS IN A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT, THE SITE PLAN GUIDE.

STAFF BROUGHT IT INTO THE CODE AND THEN RESTRUCTURED THE PRELIMINARY PLAT FINAL PLAT PROCESS AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE WERE SOME CHANGES IN THE STATUTES RECENTLY, AND WE HAD TO REFLECT THAT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHERE YOU CAN YOU CAN DO CONSTRUCTION BEFORE YOU GET YOUR FINAL PLAT APPROVED, BUT YOU CANNOT SELL A LOT BEFORE YOUR FINAL PLAT.

AND AT THE SAME TIME ADDRESS THE MODEL HOME CONSTRUCTION FOR THESE SUBDIVISIONS.

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOME MODEL HOMES BEFORE THEY DO THE FINAL PLAT.

SO IT WAS ADDRESSED.

ANYTHING TO ADD? I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT WHEN I CAME ON BOARD, IT WAS IT WAS APPARENT THAT STAFF WAS STRUGGLING WITH FOLLOWING A LOT OF OUR PROCESSES.

AND WE HAD ALSO JUST STARTED AN INITIATED OUR ONLINE PERMITTING PORTAL, OUR IMS SYSTEM.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCONNECT BETWEEN OUR APPLICATIONS, THE APPLICATION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

WE HEARD REPEATEDLY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS.

AND SO THIS SECTION BECAME VERY IMPORTANT TO STAFF TO RIGHT THE SHIP, IF YOU WILL, AND MAKE IT ALL COMPATIBLE AND FLOW, AND I THINK INSPIRED DID A GREAT JOB IN MAKING IT VERY READABLE AND EASILY FOLLOWED.

AND THE SUBDIVISION CODE WAS A BIG MAJOR CHANGE THAT WE TOOK ON.

AND ALL OF THE FEEDBACK WAS FROM OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY STATING THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THINGS THAT OTHER HOW OTHER CITIES DO IT AND OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND WE WANT IT TO BE COMPATIBLE SO THAT THERE WAS NOT MUCH CONFUSION.

WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR CITY SURVEYOR.

AND OF COURSE, THE FLORIDA STATUTE 177 IS THE DOMINANT LEGAL BACKBONE FOR ALL SUBDIVISIONS, AND WE FOLLOWED THAT VERY CLOSELY.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THIS SECTION.

IT REALLY CLARIFIED FOR STAFF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY'S BENEFIT.

SO THANK YOU PAT.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT OKAY.

SO WE GO TO THE ZONING CHAPTER.

THIS ONE ALSO. IT'S ONE OF THE BIG ONES.

SO RIGHT NOW YOUR ZONING CHAPTER IS EXTREMELY LONG EXTREMELY LONG.

SO WE EVEN THOUGH IT'S STILL LONG BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT WE REORGANIZED IT IN A WAY THAT IT'S EASIER TO USE.

SO WE START WITH ESTABLISHING THE ZONING MAP AND ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THEN WE MOVE INTO A PART TWO, WHICH EXPLAINS YOUR TRADITIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS YOUR RS1 RS2, RM 15, RM 20.

AND THEN WE HAVE A TABLE OF USES, AND THEN WE HAVE TABLES OF DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

THEN WE GO INTO A WHOLE PART DEDICATED TO STANDARDS FOR TYPICAL DEVELOPMENTS LIKE MULTIFAMILY TOWNHOMES, MANUFACTURED HOUSING, MOBILE HOMES, ZERO NINE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND WE I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT WE ADDED SOMETHING NEW THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT IS IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE IT.

IT'S CALLED CONSERVATION SUBDIVISIONS.

I'LL EXPLAIN THAT ONE IN A LITTLE BIT.

THE NEXT PART IS YOUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.

WE DIDN'T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING HERE.

IT WAS MORE LIKE CLEAN UP AND FORMATTING.

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THEN WE HAVE A SECTION WHERE WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THE DEVELOPMENT BONUSES AND INCENTIVES, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN DETAIL IN A MINUTE.

THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE PUD STANDARDS, HOW YOU DESIGN THE PUD.

THE PREVIOUS CHAPTER WAS HOW DO I PROCESS THE PUD? THIS CHAPTER IS ABOUT HOW DO I DESIGN ONE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE REGIONAL ACTIVITY CENTER PUD GETS ITS OWN PART.

AND THEN THE MIXED USE DISTRICTS, THEY GET THEIR OWN.

CHAPTER TWO.

THE LAST ONE IN THIS CHAPTER IS NON-CONFORMING PROVISIONS AND VESTED RIGHTS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.

NOT A LOT OF CHANGES WERE MADE.

SO WHAT CHANGED IN THIS CHAPTER.

NUMBER ONE WE ANYTIME THAT SOMEBODY COMES TO THE CITY AND SAYS, I WANT TO CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND STAFF SAYS, WELL, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. PEOPLE ARE NOT AWARE THAT THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WE FELT THAT PUTTING A TABLE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT SAYS, LOOK AT THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.

IF YOU HAVE MDR, THESE ARE THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT YOU CAN PICK FROM.

IT HELPS PEOPLE FIGURE OUT THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO AGAIN THIS IS NOT A CHANGE.

IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AND ZONING.

IN THE ZONING CODE TODAY, YOU HAVE SOME SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR USES.

SO LET'S SAY CHILD CARE FACILITIES OR OUTDOOR DINING.

WE TOOK THOSE OUT OF THE ZONING CHAPTER AND PUT THEM IN A SEPARATE CHAPTER WHERE YOU HAVE JUST THAT SPECIFIC USES AND THEIR STANDARDS.

WE STREAMLINED THE INTENT OF EACH DISTRICT AND MOVED THE USES AND THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS TO TABLES.

SO WHEN WE DID THE REWRITE OF OF OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, YOUR CURRENT CODE HAS ABOUT 567 PAGES.

WHEN WE DID THE REWRITE, WE GOT BACK LIKE 200 PAGES.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT TRIMMER, LEANER BECAUSE OF THESE TABLES AND, YOU KNOW, AVOIDING THE REPETITION THAT SOMETIMES CREATES ISSUES.

MORE CHANGES. SO THESE ARE THE TABLES OF USES THAT I MENTIONED.

SO I JUST I'M LOOKING AT THIS RIGHT.

AND NOW YOU HAVE COMMUNITY MIXED USE.

YOU HAVE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL.

SO PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND THE CMU, CMU.

RIGHT. AND THEN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

SO RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL IS GOING OUT AS, AS DEFINED IN THOSE.

OKAY. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN A MINUTE OKAY.

SO I'M GETTING AHEAD OF YOU.

YES. AS YOU WERE.

SO I WAS MENTIONING THAT WE CREATED THESE TABLES WHERE WE LIST THE USES.

NOW, THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN TODAY, YOU GO TO RS1 AND IT HAS A LONG LIST OF USES PERMITTED.

CONDITIONAL PROHIBITED.

THEN YOU GO TO THE NEXT DISTRICT, THE SAME LIST, AND THE NEXT DISTRICT AND THE NEXT DISTRICTS, LIKE PAGES AFTER PAGES.

SO BY PUTTING THEM IN ONE TABLE, WE REALIZED THAT THERE WERE DISCREPANCIES ON HOW YOU WHAT YOU CALL SOME OF THESE USES IN ONE PLACE, YOU WOULD SAY PUBLIC PARKS IN ANOTHER DISTRICT WOULD SAY PARKS IN ANOTHER PLACE, YOU WOULD SAY PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARKS.

SO YOU WONDER WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? SO BY PUTTING THEM IN JUST ONE LIST, WE WERE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THE TERMINOLOGY AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS ALL THE USES THAT WE NEED TO INCLUDE IN THE TABLE.

SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TABLE, YOU HAVE THE LIST OF USES.

THE SECOND COLUMN IS GOING TO SEND YOU TO A DIFFERENT CHAPTER IF THAT USE HAS SPECIFIC STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO IT, IN ADDITION TO THE SETBACKS THAT WOULD BE IN THIS CHAPTER, THEN THE COLUMN SPECIFIES WHETHER THE USE IS PERMITTED CONDITIONAL OR IF IT IS BLANK.

IT MEANS THAT IT'S NOT ALLOWED BECAUSE IF IT IS NOT LISTED ON THE TABLE, THE USE IS PROHIBITED.

BUT IF THERE IS A DOUBT LIKE THE USE IS SIMILAR, IT'S JUST NOT LISTED.

THEY CAN GO TO THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.

THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE.

SO THOSE ARE THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, AND THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

ONE CHANGE THAT WE'RE MAKING IN TERMS OF USES.

SO RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT HAVE OFFICES IN RESIDENTIAL.

BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL ACQUIRE PROPERTY TO DO A SUBDIVISION AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL ACQUIRING ALL THE PROPERTIES.

AND SOMETIMES THEY HAVE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, CUT OUTS ON ROADWAYS AND YOU END UP WITH MAYBE A HOUSE THAT IS ON A MAJOR ROADWAY, BUT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT.

NOBODY WANTS TO LIVE THERE.

SO WE'RE SAYING IN THOSE INSTANCES WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALLOW OFFICE.

AN OFFICE IS A USE THAT IS NOT AS INCOMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL AS OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL.

AND AT LEAST WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT THESE LITTLE PIECES OF PROPERTY GET USED AND DON'T END UP VACANT AND ABANDONED.

AND THIS CAME FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

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IT WAS A POLICY THAT REQUIRED THAT.

SO NOW IN TERMS OF DISTRICTS.

SO WE DID CONSOLIDATE SOME DISTRICTS.

SO RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE MW TEN MW 15 AND MW 20.

SO THAT'S RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.

WE LOOKED AT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TEN AND 15 AND NOTICE THAT THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR.

SO WE SAID, WHY DON'T WE STREAMLINE? LET'S COMBINE THOSE TWO.

SO WE DID THAT.

THEN WE ALL PUDS WERE ALSO CONSOLIDATED BECAUSE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, PLANNED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT. SO WE THERE WAS NO NEED TO HAVE ALL THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

WE CONSOLIDATE THEM, CONSOLIDATED THEM INTO ONE CATEGORY.

NOW RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL WAS VERY SIMILAR TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

THEY WERE JUST MINOR DIFFERENCES.

SO WE'RE CONSOLIDATING THOSE TWO.

AND THEN THE RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK ZONING DISTRICT, IT EXISTS IN THE CODE, BUT THERE ARE NO PROPERTIES IN THE CITY WITH THAT DESIGNATION.

AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS ARE ALLOWED IN OTHER DISTRICTS.

SO WE DIDN'T. IF WE DON'T NEED IT, WHY HAVE A WHOLE SET UP FOR IT IN THE CODE? AND I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT CHANGES DUE TO THIS CONSOLIDATION.

THEN WE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MOST COMMUNITIES HAVE SINGLE FAMILY OR MULTIFAMILY, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN BETWEEN? WHERE ARE THE TOWNHOUSES? HOW COME PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING MORE TOWNHOUSES? AND IT'S WHAT WE CALL THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAID YOU SHOULD CONSIDER CREATING A NEW DISTRICT TO ACCOMMODATE THIS.

SO THE NEW DISTRICT, WE CALL IT RT TEN AND WE CREATED STANDARDS FOR IT.

SF TWO IS ANOTHER DISTRICT THAT WE COULD NOT FIND ANY PROPERTIES ZONED THAT.

SO AGAIN, WE ELIMINATED THAT DISTRICT FOR THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

WE ALSO CREATED TABLES.

SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO REZONE SOMETHING, IT'S A LOT EASIER.

WHEN YOU HAVE THEM SIDE BY SIDE.

IT'S LIKE LET ME COMPARE SETBACKS.

LET ME COMPARE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SIZE AND SEE WHICH DISTRICT WOULD FIT MY NEEDS, MY NEEDS.

SO THOSE TABLES ARE GOING TO BE VERY USEFUL FOR THAT.

NOW IN TERMS OF CHANGES TO DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE THAT IS CALLED IMPERVIOUS SURFACE RATIO. HOW MUCH CAN IT CAN THIS BE PAID VERSUS NOT PAID? SO WE ADDED STANDARDS FOR THAT.

AND THEY RANGED BETWEEN 0.5 AND 0.9 DEPENDING ON THE DISTRICT.

RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE I MENTIONED THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR IT.

YOUR REGULATIONS CALL FOR IT.

BUT THEY NEEDED TO BE MENTIONED IN ALL YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS, SO WE PUT THAT RIGHT THERE IN THOSE TABLES.

WHEN WE COMBINE SP ONE AND RS ONE, WE REALIZED THAT THEY HAD DIFFERENT LIVING AREA MAXIMUM I MEAN MINIMUM.

SO WE WHEN WE COMBINE THE TWO, WE HAD TO PICK THE ONE THAT WAS THE MORE RESTRICTIVE SO WE WOULDN'T CREATE ANY NON-CONFORMITIES.

SO WE ENDED UP REDUCING THE LIVING AREA IN THIS ONE FROM 1600 TO 1400.

AND THEN IN THE RM 15, BECAUSE WE COMBINED TEN AND 15, WE ENDED UP GOING WITH A HEIGHT OF 50FT INSTEAD OF 20.

SO THIS WOULD BE MULTI-FAMILY FOR TRYING TO FIT IN MULTIFAMILY.

IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO MULTIFAMILY IN TWO STORIES, SO WE INCREASED THAT TO 50.

AND THEN FOR RM 15 AND 20 THE SETBACKS WERE REDUCED.

AGAIN IT'S MULTIFAMILY.

YOU YOU STILL HAVE BUFFERING.

SO IF YOU'RE NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY THAT SETBACK MAY HAVE TO BE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THE BUFFERS.

BUT WE REDUCED FROM 25 TO 20 FOR FRONT.

THE CORNER IS GOING TO BE FROM 25 TO 15 AND THE REAR FROM 25 TO 20.

AND THEN FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE WE CONSOLIDATED THAT WITH RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL, WE CHANGED THE BUILDING COVERAGE FROM 30 TO 35.

NOW WE PRODUCED A DOCUMENT THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED IN YOUR PACKET THAT HAS TABLES COMPARING SIDE BY SIDE, ALL THE DISTRICTS THAT WERE CONSOLIDATING, SO THAT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE USES OR THE SETBACK, WE CAN SEE THEM SIDE BY SIDE.

SO I TALKED ABOUT PUDS.

AND PUDS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF WANTED TO IMPROVE FOR THE REASONS THAT LISA MENTIONED.

SO THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS CONSOLIDATING THE PCD.

PCD BECAUSE THEY ALL DO THE SAME.

SO WE FIGURED THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO JUST HAVE ONE CATEGORY INCLUDED THE ACTIVITY BASED AND RESOURCE BASED OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS.

CLARIFY HOW TO DO THAT.

THE PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, ZONING AMENDMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PROCESS, ALL THAT WAS CLARIFIED.

AND SAME THING WITH THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY PLAT CLARIFYING THE OPEN SPACE.

NOW, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS THAT FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL, YOU SHOULD HAVE A MINIMUM OF 20% OPEN SPACE.

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YOUR CODE TODAY SAYS PUDS HAVE TO DO 25%.

SO WE KEPT THAT EVEN THOUGH THE COMPLAINT SAYS MINIMUM 20.

YOU CAN ALWAYS REQUIRE MORE IF YOU WANT TO.

SO FOR PUDS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE 25 THAT YOU ALREADY HAD IN THE CODE.

AND THEN CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT IS MENTIONED IN PUD SO THEY DON'T MISS THAT AND CLARIFIED SOME THE PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE PROCESS AND BONDS PROCESS.

SO WE GET TO THE NEXT CHAPTER.

I KNOW, I'M SORRY. I'M STILL IN THE SAME CHAPTER.

I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT PEOPLE CAN DO IN THE CITY.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, CONSOLIDATED IN ONE PLACE.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE CLUSTER SUBDIVISION.

SO THE IDEA OF THE CLUSTER SUBDIVISION BASICALLY IT'S REALLY HARD TO DO THAT IN THE CITY TODAY.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH PUD, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE PUD PROCESS KICKS YOU INTO A MORE COMPLICATED PROCESS THAT SOMETIMES IS NOT NECESSARY.

SO THE IDEA OF THE CLUSTER SUBDIVISION IS THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT SHOWS A SUBDIVISION THAT IS NOT CLUSTERING.

SO THE LOTS ARE BIG, BUT THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE.

WHEN YOU LET THEM DO SMALLER LOTS, THEN YOU START CREATING THAT OPEN SPACE.

NOW WE PUT SOME PROVISIONS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LOTS ARE NOT GOING TO BE TOO SMALL COMPARED TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS, THAT THE OPEN SPACE IS GOING TO BE TRULY OPEN SPACE, AND IT'S GOING TO BE KEPT IN A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR THAT TYPE OF SETTING.

SO SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE YOU DO IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.

THERE ARE SPECIFIC STANDARDS NOW BECAUSE THIS IS NEW.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO SAY, OH, YOU CAN DO THAT BY.

RIGHT. SO WE'RE SAYING YOU CAN DO IT IF YOU GO THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL.

SO YOU CAN TEST IT AND SEE IF YOU LIKE IT.

AND YOU KNOW WHEN THEY COME IN FOR A CONDITIONAL USE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO GET IT APPROVED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC SITE, IT DOESN'T FIT IN.

IT DOESN'T REALLY BELONG THERE.

IT CAN ALWAYS BE DENIED.

BUT IF YOU HAVE APPROVED 3 OR 4 OF THOSE AND REALIZE THAT'S WORKING, IT'S GIVING US MORE OPEN SPACE, THEN YOU CAN CHANGE IT TO A PERMITTED USE.

BUT FOR NOW, IT'S THERE AGAIN.

IT'S NOT BEING IT'S NOT BEING REQUIRED FROM ANYBODY.

IT'S JUST AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE TO DO IT.

TOWNHOMES, THEY HAVE THEIR SPECIFIC STANDARDS, SO WE CONSOLIDATE THEM IN ONE PLACE.

MULTIFAMILY MANUFACTURED HOMES.

WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING THERE.

AND ZERO LOT LINE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ALREADY HAD IN THE CODE AND IT CAN ONLY BE DONE WITH PUD.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT.

SO THIS ONE, WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE ROBUST IN TERMS OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO CREATE COMMUNITIES.

THAT IS NOT JUST THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE EYE CAN SEE, BUT THERE IS A COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE.

AND SO THE TWO LEVELS, THE CMU AND UMU CMU MEANS THIS YOUR COMMUNITY WHERE PEOPLE LIVE, THEY GO TO SCHOOL, THEY HAVE PARKS, AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME COMMUNITY CENTERS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THEY HAVE THE UMU, WHICH IS YOUR TOWN CENTER.

SO IN THE TOWN CENTER THEY CAN HAVE MORE HEIGHT, MORE DENSITY.

AND IT'S WHERE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GO AND, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING AND GROCERY STORES AND THOSE TYPES OF USES.

SO AGAIN THESE ARE THE TWO NEW MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

BONUSES AND INCENTIVES.

SO A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE HAVE THIS.

YOU HAVE IT. BUT THE WAY IT'S WORDED, IT DOESN'T SEEM APPEALING TO PEOPLE.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT BONUSES AND INCENTIVES, IT'S LIKE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE CITY WANTS THAT YOU'RE NOT READY TO REQUIRE.

BUT IF YOU WANT IT, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO GIVE UP IN RETURN FOR THOSE FEATURES? SO LIKE VERTICAL MIXED USE AS WE START, YOU KNOW, GROWING WHEN YOU START STACKING, LET'S SAY RESIDENTIAL ABOVE COMMERCIAL YOU START THINKING ABOUT YOUR COMMUNITY BECOMING MORE WALKABLE, MORE SUSTAINABLE.

SO IT'S SOMETHING GOOD TO HAVE IN CERTAIN PLACES.

SO WHAT ARE WE WILLING TO GIVE UP FOR THAT.

SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SOME PEOPLE WOULD PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS MIXED IN WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENTS IF YOU PROVIDE SOME INCENTIVES PUBLIC OPEN SPACE PUBLIC, THE WORD PUBLIC.

YOU KNOW WE WANT MORE OPEN SPACE.

NOT GATED, NOT FOR JUST THE RESIDENTS, BUT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGES.

YOU KNOW, AS WE START GROWING, YOU KNOW, THERE WILL BE A NEED TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN SUSTAIN PARKING GARAGES, ACCESS TO THE WATERFRONT, LOW IMPACT AND GREEN BUILDING DESIGN, EMERGENCY STORM SHELTERS.

THIS CAME FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD MORE OF THESE AROUND THE CITY.

LIVING SHORELINE TECHNIQUES.

PROTECTING THE COAST.

CO-LOCATION OF WATER DEPENDENT AND WATER RELATED USES.

SO THERE IS A TABLE NOW IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT CONSOLIDATES ALL THESE WANTS AND NEEDS.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST COLUMN, THOSE ARE THE FEATURES THAT WE WANT.

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THE SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH AND FIFTH COLUMNS ARE LIKE WHAT WE'RE WILLING TO GIVE TO TO THE DEVELOPER.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS WE'RE GOING TO DO VERTICAL MIXED USE AND WE'RE GOING TO COMBINE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL OR OFFICE, WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ADDITIONAL TWO STORIES FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE CONDITION IS THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO COUNT IT AS, AS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU GO TO THE MAXIMUM DENSITY ALLOWED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IF YOU GIVE US A MINIMUM OF 25% OF UNITS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ARE AFFORDABLE.

SO SO THERE'S A WHOLE SET UP WHERE, YOU KNOW, FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE FEATURES, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE GIVE OUT OR WE OFFER 30 YEARS. THE NEXT CHAPTER.

CHAPTER 174.

THIS IS WHERE WE CONSOLIDATED ALL THOSE USES THAT HAVE SPECIFIC STANDARDS.

SO STARTING WITH YOUR ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURE.

SO BEFORE IT WAS A LITTLE BIT BURIED IN THE CODE.

SO WE BROUGHT IT TO A WHOLE.

IT'S A WHOLE PART DEDICATED TO ACCESSORY USES AND STRUCTURES.

AND THEN FIRST WE GIVE THE GENERAL STANDARDS AND THEN WE GET INTO SPECIFIC TYPES OF ACCESSORY USES LIKE ADUS AND AIR CONDITIONING UNITS, BACKYARD CHICKENS, DOGS IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, FENCES AND WALLS, HOME OCCUPATIONS, HOME OCCUPATIONS.

WE HAD CHANGES IN THE STATE STATUTES AND WE HAD TO RELAX OUR REGULATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT.

OUTDOOR DINING. DISPLAY OF MERCHANDISE IN SECURE DWELLINGS.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THOSE.

THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE TEMPORARY USES.

SO AGAIN WE START WITH VERY GENERAL STANDARDS.

AND THEN WE LIST TEMPORARY USES FOR THE MOBILE FOOD VENDORS.

WE WORKED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON THOSE CHANGES.

THEY PROVIDED THE LANGUAGE AND WE INCORPORATED THAT INTO THE CODE.

AND IT'S EASIER TO UNDERSTAND NOW.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE ICE CREAM SHOP, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK? AND THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE THE STANDARDS FOR MODEL, SORRY, MODEL HOMES AND STORAGE UNITS.

AND THEN WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR SPECIFIC USES.

THESE ARE THE USES THAT CAN EITHER BE PERMITTED OR CONDITIONAL, BUT THEY ARE PRINCIPAL USES.

SO ALL THOSE USES LISTED ON THE SCREEN, THERE ARE STANDARDS FOR THOSE.

YOUR LANDSCAPE CHAPTER.

SO ONE THING THAT WE DID HERE, WHENEVER YOU THINK OF LANDSCAPING REGULATIONS, WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE CITY.

NUMBER ONE SAVE THE TREES TREE PROTECTION.

THAT SHOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE GOAL OF THIS CHAPTER.

RIGHT. SO IT WAS REORGANIZED TO START WITH THAT.

SAVE THE TREES.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THE TREES, THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS.

SO ALWAYS ENCOURAGING PRESERVATION BEFORE REMOVAL.

PART TWO HAS TO DO WITH THE, THE TYPICAL PERMITS THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO GET IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANY DISTURBANCE ON YOUR PROPERTY.

NOW THIS CHAPTER, WE WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH STAFF.

THEY DEVELOPED A LOT OF THE PART ONE AND PART TWO LANGUAGE, AND WE HELPED A LOT WITH THE PART THREE.

SO WHEN YOU GET TO PART THREE, THAT'S WHERE YOU GO.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO DESIGN A 7-ELEVEN OR A SUBDIVISION OR AN OFFICE PARK, AND IT TELLS YOU WHAT PLANTS YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE, WHAT KIND OF SHRUBS YOU KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE TREES AND ALL THOSE DETAILS.

AND IN TERMS OF THE MAJOR CHANGES TO THAT CHAPTER AGAIN, MAJOR REORGANIZATION.

WE INTRODUCED THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY PLANT LIST.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST COMMUNITIES IN FLORIDA USE NOWADAYS.

INSTEAD OF HAVING YOUR OWN LIST ADDED REQUIREMENTS FOR STREET TREES IN SUBDIVISIONS.

WE HAD SOME IMAGES THAT WE SHOWED THAT IT IS SAD WHEN YOU HAVE SUBDIVISIONS THAT YOU DRIVE IN AND THERE'S JUST NO TREES.

I CREATED A TABLE THAT EXPLAINS THE PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERS, AND THEN CLARIFIED WHAT NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED WHEN YOU DO A LANDSCAPE PLAN OR IRRIGATION PLAN.

NEXT CHAPTER IS STREETS, PARKING AND LOADING.

FIRST SECTION IS WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DEVELOP A SUBDIVISION OR YOU KNOW ANY ANY STREET IN THE CITY.

THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS.

SOME OF THE STANDARDS THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CODE TODAY.

WE'RE MOVING THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY REALLY BELONG.

AND SOME ARE GOING TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT REALLY RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT.

THE SECOND SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO CHANGE HERE, THAT IS NOT IN THE CODE TODAY IS ADDRESSING PEDESTRIANS.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATED WE NEED TO ADDRESS SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS BECAUSE UP UNTIL NOW WE'VE BEEN JUST PLANNING FOR CARS, CARS, CARS, CARS.

BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHENEVER SOMEBODY'S GOING TO DEVELOP A SHOPPING CENTER, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS, WALKWAYS, PROTECTION AND TRANSIT FACILITIES.

IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS THE CITY GROWS, WE NEED TO START THINKING, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE CERTAIN ROUTES THAT ARE GOING TO COME THROUGH THE CITY, MAYBE NEW DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE IN

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THE FORM OF EITHER BUS STOPS, TRANSFER FACILITIES OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED IN THOSE LOCATIONS.

AND THEN OFF STREET PARKING.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, AND THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO CREATE A TABLE BASED ON THE IT TABLE AS INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS.

THAT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE THAN THE LIST THAT WE HAD.

THERE WERE NOT A LOT OF CHANGES IN TERMS OF THE RATIOS, BUT BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER TO FIND REQUIREMENTS TODAY.

SOMETHING THAT WE DID FOR THIS CHAPTER TWO IS LIKE RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE MINIMUM PARKING.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE MINIMUM PARKING, SOMETIMES IF WALMART COMES IN OR SUPER TARGET, THEY WANT TO PLAN THEIR PARKING FOR BLACK FRIDAY.

THAT'S ALL THEY THINK ABOUT.

AND THEY PROVIDE A PARKING LOT THAT ONLY GETS USED ONCE A YEAR.

IN THE MEANTIME, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PAVEMENT THAT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING A MAXIMUM, WHICH IS A 10% MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.

THEN I HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF THE EXACT NUMBER.

BUT BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ALSO COMMON BECOMING MORE COMMON IN ALL COMMUNITIES.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE THE LOADING STANDARDS, SUBDIVISION, SITE AND DESIGN.

THIS IS WHERE YOU GO IN TO SEE HOW TO DESIGN A SUBDIVISION.

WHERE DO I PUT AND IF IT IS NOT NONRESIDENTIAL, WHERE DO I PUT MY DUMPSTERS? HOW DO I DESIGN MY STORM WATER? THIS IS WHERE YOU GO TO GET THOSE STANDARDS.

THERE ARE TWO CHAPTERS THAT WE DIDN'T TOUCH, SIGNS.

WE DID THE RENUMBERING AND UPDATED THE CROSS-REFERENCES IN TERMS OF SECTION NUMBERS.

BUT NUMBER ONE, SIGNED CHAPTERS CAN BE VERY CONTROVERSIAL.

SO. AND NUMBER TWO CITY STAFF WANTED TO TAKE THAT ON THEMSELVES.

SO WE DIDN'T REALLY MAKE ANY CHANGES TO SIGNS AND ADULT ENTERTAINMENT.

WE TOOK IT OUT OF THE ZONING CODE BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT IN THAT CHAPTER THAT DOESN'T REALLY BELONG IN THE ZONING PORTION OF IT.

AND WE LEFT IT AS ITS OWN CHAPTER, AND IT'S THE LAST ONE, AND HOPING THAT SOMEDAY MAYBE WE CAN MOVE THE WHOLE CHAPTER TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, LIKE SOME ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS MENTIONED LAST NIGHT THAT READING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE DEFINITIONS IS LIKE, WHY IS THIS IN THE CODE? BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY REFER TO LAND USE.

IT'S MORE LIKE BEHAVIOR OR WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE ENTERTAINMENT VENUES.

AND THEN THE LAST CHAPTER THAT I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS NATURAL RESOURCES.

THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND THE CITY STANDARD FOR FLOODPLAIN REGULATIONS.

AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE RELY ON STATE AGENCIES FOR A LOT OF THESE REGULATIONS.

SO WE DIDN'T MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES.

WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING.

THEY HAD SOME TERMINOLOGY CHANGES THAT THEY WANTED TO CLARIFY.

AND OF COURSE WE HAD THE GROUNDWATER AND WELFARE PROTECTION THERE.

NOW, WE MENTIONED THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO MOVE SOME SECTIONS OUT OF THE CODE.

THE LIST ON THE LEFT ARE ALL THOSE SECTIONS, PARTS, CHAPTERS THAT WE FOUND IN THE CODE THAT NEED TO BE MOVED TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WORKED ON THOSE ORDINANCES, AND YOU HAVE THOSE ON THE AGENDA FOR LATER TODAY.

LIKE MUNICIPAL TREE CODE.

THIS IS HOW THE CITY PLANS THEIR OWN TREES.

THEY DON'T NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BECAUSE IT'S THEIRS DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR FOR THE DEVELOPERS.

SO THAT IS GOING TO CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND THEN SOME SECTIONS ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL LIKE ROADWAY RESURFACING OR STREET NAME SIGNS.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL.

SO BECAUSE I MENTIONED THAT WE WERE CONSOLIDATING SOME DISTRICTS, WHEN YOU CONSOLIDATE TECHNICALLY IT'S A REZONING BECAUSE TODAY MY ZONING IS SF ONE.

AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE RS ONE.

SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING NOTIFICATIONS.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT FOR THE RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY 10 TO 15 AND SINGLE FAMILY ONE TO RESIDENTIAL ONE, THE MEETING WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER SEPTEMBER 4TH, AND IT WOULD GO TO COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 19TH, OCTOBER 17TH.

NOW, THESE DATES ARE TO BE DETERMINED.

IF SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPENS TONIGHT, THEN ADOPTING THE CODE.

BUT THE OTHER CHANGES THE MIXED USE DISTRICTS.

THEY WOULD GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING IN OCTOBER AND THEN COUNCIL RIGHT AFTER THAT.

SO IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS.

SO WE WENT TO PNC LAST NIGHT AND THEY VOTED 4 TO 1 TO COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.

SO WE HAVE THE MEETING TODAY.

AND IF THE RECOMMENDATION TODAY OR THE ACTION TODAY IS FOR APPROVAL, WE WOULD BE COMING BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH FOR THE SECOND READING, AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IF IF WE TABLED THE ITEM, WE WILL FIT IN SOME WORKSHOPS, SOME MORE PUBLIC INPUT IN BETWEEN.

AND THEN WE WOULD SET THE DATES FOR TO, TO REHEAR IT LATER ON.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW AND I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

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THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU KNOW, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO NITPICK THIS.

ALTHOUGH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I READ EVERY SINGLE PAGE AND EVERY SINGLE LINE IN THE IN THE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND I'M BEING A RETIRED REAL ESTATE APPRAISER, I'M PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH WITH THE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW, I COMMEND, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS FOR THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT I RECOGNIZE WHAT IT TOOK TO DO THIS.

HOWEVER YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS, BUT IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND I JUST THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE.

AND IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BEST IN THE LONG RUN TO LET THE NEW COUNCIL AFTER THE NOVEMBER ELECTION TO, TO DECIDE THE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES.

GO AHEAD. ARE YOU ASKING FOR FEEDBACK? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.

I'M. I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I WAS STAFF KNOWS I WAS FOR JUST LIKE THE MAYOR FOR PUSHING THIS.

AT A LATER DATE. ESPECIALLY TO ENGAGE AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS AS WE CAN.

SO I'M.

I'M FINE WITH IT. DEPUTY MAYOR.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE WE WE WERE ALL THINKING THE SAME WAY.

I DO AGREE. ONE OF MY QUESTION TO STAFF AS THIS WAS PRESENTED TO ME IS THAT HOW ENGAGED WERE THE THE DEVELOPER, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THEY ARE WE WHERE THEY HAVE A SAY INTO INTO THESE CHANGES.

WE CERTAINLY I WOULD AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG HIS COMMENT.

I DO APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOT INTO THIS, AND CERTAINLY IT'S A GREAT DOCUMENT, I THINK REALLY SET US UP TO TO GREAT, GREAT THINGS.

AND BUT I DO AGREE AS WELL THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE TABLE THIS AND WAIT AND GET MORE INPUT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND CERTAINLY WE, WE WE PARTNER IN THIS.

RIGHT. SO THE MORE WE CAN GET THEIR INPUT, I THINK THE EASIER IT IS.

IT WOULD BE FOR EVERYBODY.

SO I WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF OF WAIT, TAKE A PAUSE AND MOVE FORWARD.

WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO THE VERY FIRST THING, THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR THE OUTSTANDING OPPORTUNITY TO TO PRESENT THIS.

THIS IS THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.

RIGHT. AND I THINK WHAT I HEAR COUNCIL AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE, IS WE LIKE TO SEE MORE OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS GET INVOLVED.

PERHAPS GUIDE STAFF, GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO HOLD WORKSHOPS WITH EVERY STAKEHOLDER THAT'S INVOLVED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WITHIN OUR CITIZENRY, WITHIN OUR REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.

I COULD SEE THAT SOME PLACES IT SIMPLIFIES IS IT COEXISTS.

IT'S JUST MINIMIZING THAT.

BUT PERHAPS I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

PERHAPS I MISSED IT SOMEWHERE, BUT IS THERE A CODE FOR A CONVENTION CENTER HERE? I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IN THE TABLE OF USES.

DID WE PUT IT IN? BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND IF WE CAN'T ALLOW IT IN OUR CODE, I SAY WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S PART OF OUR FUTURE LAND USE.

I'VE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS DAIS.

THE GOAL IS TO BRING SOMETHING UP INTO THIS CITY.

BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT CODE, HOW CAN WE CREATE SOMETHING? I I'M SPEAKING IT.

SO PERHAPS THIS PAUSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCLUDE THAT.

SO I'M, I'M GOOD GENTLEMEN TO TO TO TAKE THE PAUSE BECAUSE I, I REALLY AND I KNOW THAT I, I GOT THE CONSENSUS ON COUNCIL YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS THAT A CONVENTION CENTER WOULD BE GOOD IN THIS, IN THIS EFFECT.

MR. RODRIGUEZ, DID YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING? I SEE YOU LEANING IN.

YEAH. THERE'S TWO POINTS THAT I WANT TO RAISE AND TO PROVIDE COUNCIL TO THIS COUNCIL.

YES. WE ARE UNDER THAT ONE YEAR DEADLINE THAT FLORIDA STATUTES IMPOSES TO ADOPT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WHILE WE DO NOT HAVE TO REPORT TO THE STATE, I MUST COUNSEL AND ADVISE THIS BOARD THAT THERE COULD BE THE POTENTIAL OF A LOT OF ESPECIALLY IF WE WAIT TILL NOVEMBER OF APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT CURRENT CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LDC, THAT MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE CIRCUIT COURT AND THE APPELLATE COURTS OF FLORIDA ARE ADAMANT YOU CAN'T BUY YOURSELF OUT OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN VIOLATION.

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THE THE HISTORIC CASE COMES OUT OF MARTIN COUNTY, A CASE THAT I UNFORTUNATELY WORKED ON, IN WHICH A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT, INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THE ORDER FROM THE COURT WAS DEMOLISH IT.

THEY EVICTED ALL THE TENANTS AND DEMOLISHED THE BUILDINGS, AND THAT WAS UPHELD BY THE SUPREME COURT.

SO THAT'S JUST A WORD OF CAUTION THAT I MY JOB IS TO DELIVER THE POTENTIAL, WHAT COULD BE THE POTENTIAL WORST CASE SCENARIOS.

AND THAT IS A POTENTIAL WHERE WE MAY HAVE AN INCONSISTENCY WHICH MAY DISRUPT DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY. AND WE HAVE TO THEN WEIGH THEM, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE PLANNED AMENDMENTS TO BECOME CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THOSE AMENDMENTS HAVE NOT BEEN ADOPTED YET, AND WE MAY END UP WITH DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SECONDLY, PUSHING THIS FORWARD TO NOVEMBER THIS HAS BEEN A GARGANTUAN UNDERTAKING, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR, THE THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE, IN THEIR ULTIMATE WISDOM OF REMOVING LOCAL RULE HOW MANDATES THAT EVEN AMENDMENTS AND OR AND STATUTES RELATING TO AMENDING A LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MUST INCLUDE AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.

SO AT THIS POINT, THEN IF WE'RE PUSHING THIS FORWARD TO NOVEMBER, THE CITY WILL HAVE TO PREPARE A DETAILED ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT, WHICH IS GOING TO THEN DETAIL THE EFFECT OF OF AMENDING THE ENTIRE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS IT RELATES TO THE ENTIRE CITY.

AT THIS POINT. IF WE ADOPT THIS BEFORE OCTOBER, WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO SO.

WE HAVE SUBSEQUENT ZONING CHANGES THAT ARE COMING ALONG THAT WILL COME AFTERWARDS.

HOWEVER, THEIR IMPACTS ARE A LOT LESS BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE DISCUSSING JUST CERTAIN PROPERTIES THAT ARE HAVING THEIR ZONING DESIGNATIONS CHANGED.

BUT AFTER OCTOBER 1ST ANY ZONING CHANGE THAT'S, THAT IS INITIATED BY THIS BY THE CITY.

SO IF A, IF A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER COMES TO THE COUNCIL ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE, THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO UNDERGO A ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT, BUT IF IT'S INITIATED BY THE CITY, WHICH IN THIS CASE THE CITY IS INITIATING THE AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN ECONOMIC IMPACT STATEMENT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN, IT'S NOT TERRIBLY DETAILED ON WHAT HAS TO BE IN AN IMPACT STATEMENT.

AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE CHARTING A NEW COURSE BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST.

BUT THESE ARE IMPACTS AND RAMIFICATIONS THAT I WANT YOU TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN CONSIDERING WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THIS AHEAD AND FORWARD TO TO AFTER NOVEMBER. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT AFTER THE THE ELECTION, WE COULD WE COULD BE LOOKING AT IMPLEMENTATION ADOPTION MOST LIKELY IN DECEMBER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE APPROXIMATELY FIVE MONTHS AFTER THE ONE YEAR DEADLINE FROM THE ADOPTION OF THE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL FIVE MONTH GAP WHERE POTENTIALLY THERE COULD BE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING UP THAT MAY BE BACKLOGGED BECAUSE THEY MAY BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BECAUSE THE ZONING CODE, AS IT'S THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AS IT'S PRESENTLY DRAFTED AND NOT ADOPTED WITH THE AMENDMENTS, MAY HAVE AN INCONSISTENCY.

SO JUST TO TAKE THOSE MATTERS INTO INTO CONSIDERATION.

WELL THANK YOU. CAN I ADD ONE MORE TO THAT ONE TO THAT LIST? SURE. GO AHEAD. GO RIGHT AHEAD.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMEND OUR OUR CITY ATTORNEY, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY FOR HIS EXPERTISE IN THIS ARENA.

BUT CARRY ON, MAN.

SORRY. SO WE MENTIONED THAT EVEN THOUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS DUE WITHIN A YEAR THE STATUTES DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT PENALTIES OR WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF YOU'RE LATE. BUT LET'S SAY SOMEBODY COMES IN AND REQUESTS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

YOU SEND THAT TO THE STATE.

THE STATE MAY SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT UPDATED YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND THEN YOU PUT SOMEBODY ELSE ON HOLD BECAUSE OF THAT.

UNDERSTOOD. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO STAFF TODAY, RIGHT NOW IS CAN WE ADD THE CODE FOR A FOR CONVENTION CENTER? THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THING.

YES, SIR. THE CONCEPT OF TABLING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

SO IF YOU YOU'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE TONIGHT, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE.

ANYWAYS. SO ANY CHANGES YOU MAKE TONIGHT, ANY PROPOSALS YOU ADD? THOSE WILL ALL BE BROUGHT BACK AS PART OF THE FIRST THE FIRST HEARING, WHATEVER YOU REQUEST TONIGHT.

AND BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN WE BRING BACK THE FIRST HEARING, WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PARTIES.

YOU WILL BE AS WELL, I'M SURE.

AND ANY IDEAS THAT COME, IF YOU LET US KNOW, WE'LL MAKE SURE THOSE GET INCORPORATED INTO THE FIRST HEARING WHEN WE BRING IT BACK TO YOU.

OKAY, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN, MA'AM.

I JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME IS THE CONVENTION CENTER, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE, SIR, AS I MENTIONED THAT SEVERAL TIMES.

BUT SOMETHING ELSE I WANT ON THE RECORD AS WELL IS I'D LIKE TO GET STAKEHOLDER WORKSHOPS WITH OUR STAFF.

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LET LET'S IF WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THIS, WHICH IT APPEARS WE ARE.

LET US HAVE WORKSHOPS WITH OUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AT.

AND LET'S HOLD THEM PUBLIC AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEIR NEEDS ARE, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM.

WE WANT TO HEAR THEIR QUESTIONS.

WE WANT TO HEAR. SO THAT WAY IT'S A HUGE DOCUMENT, AS YOU SAID MISTER ATTORNEY AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO DIGEST IT ALL, BUT WE WOULD WANT OUR CITIZENS, WE WOULD WANT ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS TO TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

IF IT TAKES TWO OF THEM.

I PROPOSE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A WORKSHOP OR COME BACK HERE FOR A FIRST READING.

ACCORDING TO A TIMETABLE, PERHAPS BEFORE THE END OF AUGUST, THE THE 29TH OR THE 30TH OR WHATEVER.

WHATEVER IT TAKES, EVEN IF IT TAKES US COMING IN ON A SATURDAY, GENTLEMEN, AND HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON A SATURDAY.

YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DID YOU. I'LL WAIT FOR YOU.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

YEAH. COUNCILMAN.

WEINBERG. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

YEAH. A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS ADDRESS TO MR. HERNANDEZ. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A ONE YEAR TIME LIMIT TO TO IMPLEMENT NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FROM THE TIME THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS, WAS BUILT, WE'RE ALREADY EXCEEDED THE ONE YEAR.

BUT ANYWAY. AND THERE ARE NO, NO SPECIFIC PENALTIES FOR THAT.

BUT MR. HERNANDEZ ALSO MENTIONED THAT WE COULD HAVE A PROBLEM IF WE APPROVE SOME YOU KNOW, PROJECTS BEFORE ADOPTING THE NEW THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT ARE IN, IN CONFLICT WITH THE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULDN'T IT BE FEASIBLE TO NOT APPROVE ANY NEW PROJECTS UNLESS THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM NOW UNTIL AFTER THE NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ADOPTED.

THE FIRST DAY OF LAW SCHOOL AND I ALWAYS GIVE THIS THESE LITTLE.

BUT THE FIRST DAY OF LAW SCHOOL, WE'RE TAUGHT THE ONE THING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO CARRY THROUGH THREE YEARS OF LAW SCHOOL IS THAT THE AVERAGE THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING IS IT DEPENDS. AND THAT IS YES.

WE MAY. AN APPLICATION MAY COME IN HYPOTHETICALLY, AND IT COULD BE DENIED FOR INCONSISTENCY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE ALSO HAVE A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE A CODE THAT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND A PROPERTY OWNER IS COMING IN AND SAYING, WELL, NOW I CAN'T DEVELOP IT BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A CODE WE'VE GOT AN INCONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE CITY HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO CORRECT.

IT MAY OR MAY NOT OPEN THE CITY TO POTENTIAL BERT J.

HARRIS ACT CLAIM.

SO I MEAN, I HAVE TO ALWAYS I, I ALWAYS FEEL IN MY POSITION, I'M ALWAYS A HARBINGER OF BAD NEWS.

BUT I'M JUST GOING OVER EVERY POTENTIAL ISSUE THAT MAY ARISE SO THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT.

THE CITY ISN'T CAUGHT FLAT FOOTED.

SO OVER THESE ISSUES.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE KIND OF THE, THE BEST RESPONSE.

I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN GIVE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WHEN, WHEN SPEAKING IN HYPOTHETICALS.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YES, MAYOR. I LIKE COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

I'M A NITPICK, SO I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, MAN.

I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

YOU AND THANK YOU DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

FIRST QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK FOR STAFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAD THE CHANCE TO.

THIS WAS A LOT TO DIGEST.

HAVE Y'ALL HAD THE CHANCE? CITY CLERK, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO REALLY DIVE INTO IT AND FIND AREAS THAT YOU FELT COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED ON, OR THINGS THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OR REVISED OURSELVES OR.

WHOEVER WANTS TO TAKE. OKAY, MISS JONES, MR. JONES, I'LL START WITH MISS JONES.

I CAN SAY WHEN I WAS REVIEWING EVERYTHING AND IT WAS A LOT TO DIGEST, AND I DID A LOT OF FORMATTING, THAT WAS MY ROLE IN THE PROCESS.

THE ONLY THINGS THAT I NOTICED WERE JUST CROSS REFERENCES, WHICH MISS PAT IMMEDIATELY ADDRESSED, BUT OTHERWISE I DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUES.

BUT I DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT WITH A FINE TOOTH COMB EITHER.

OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM.

CITY ATTORNEY ADVISES THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NAMELY ME.

I WAS INVOLVED HEAVILY IN THE DRAFTING AND REWORDING OF THE OF THE DOCUMENT.

I WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE SECTION I ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH TO TRY TO TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES OR INCOMPATIBLE LANGUAGE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, I MEAN, JUST FROM MY EXPERIENCE, I COMBED THROUGH VARIOUS OTHER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, INCLUDING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT I

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PERSONALLY HAVE ALSO WORKED ON AND WRITTEN.

BROUGHT IDEAS FROM THOSE.

AND IT'S JUST IRONICALLY, THE THE AS AN EXAMPLE, THE FOOD TRUCK SECTION.

I HAD JUST DRAFTED A FOOD TRUCK SECTION FOR THE PRIOR JURISDICTION I WORKED AT, WHICH WAS WHICH WAS A FRESH REWRITE BECAUSE OF THE STATE STATUTE STATE STATUTORY LANGUAGE THAT CHANGED. SO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE WERE INVOLVED IN EVERY MEETING WITH STAFF.

WE WERE INVOLVED IN EVERY CONFERENCE CALL.

AND WE DID THE I DID THE DRAFTING A LOT OF THE DRAFTING, THE FINAL EDITS AND THE KIND OF TIGHTENING UP OF THE DOCUMENT.

SO THERE'S I CAN SAY AT LEAST ON MY END, I, I DID CONDUCT A THOROUGH REVIEW OF THE, OF THE DOCUMENT.

THANK YOU. THE AMENDED CODE AND I KNOW CITY MANAGEMENT, Y'ALL.

THAT'S Y'ALL'S JOB TO REVIEW IT.

MORE SPECIFICALLY, I WAS GOING TO ASK ALONG THE LINES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HAVE THEY HAD A CHANCE TO KIND OF PUT THEIR FEEDBACK IN ON IT OR.

YEAH. YES, I CAN SAY THAT THEY HAVE.

I KNOW NANCY BUNDT WAS INVOLVED IN THE REVIEW OF A LOT OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT SECTIONS PERTAINING TO COMMERCIAL, PERTAINING TO MIXED USE.

PAT AND JESSE AND I ENGAGED HER EARLY ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NOTES IN OUR DOCUMENTS TO THAT EFFECT AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS JUST OFF OF THAT ALONE.

WE WERE LOOKING AT THE INCENTIVES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND FOR OTHER AREAS, BUT I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT POSSIBLY COULD IT BE INCLUDED IN THE LDC INCENTIVES FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL FLEX USE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FEASIBLE OR NOT, BUT WE THE MAYOR SAID IT MULTIPLE TIMES.

WE'VE BEEN KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

WE'VE BEEN KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY, BEEN KNOWN AS A BEDROOM COMMUNITY.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT IT? AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS THE INCENTIVES WE'RE PROVIDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHILE IT'S GREAT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE CAN BRING IN AS MUCH COMMERCIAL LIKE HE SAYS TO OFFSET THE TAXES FOR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.

SO THAT WAY WE HAVE A MUCH LOWER MILLAGE RATE.

SO THAT'S ONE AREA I WANTED TO ADDRESS.

ANOTHER ONE, VERTICAL MIXED-USE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FOCUS MORE SO ON THAT THAN THE HORIZONTAL MIXED USE, BECAUSE VERTICAL MIXED USE GIVES YOU OPEN SPACE.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN EMPHASIZE MORE AS OPPOSED TO HORIZONTAL MIXED USE.

AND EVEN SOME OF THESE LARGE SCALE PROJECTS THAT ARE MIXED USE, THEY'RE TAKING UP SO MUCH LAND, IT GETS RIDICULOUS AT THAT POINT.

AND WHILE WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF CITIES, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO HIS POINT, DEMOLITION TO BUILD UP SKY RISES.

LET'S UTILIZE THE LAND WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR SMART GROWTH AND TO BE ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND WITH JUST.

I'M NOT SAYING SKYSCRAPERS, SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THINKING I'M LIKE, BUILD IT TO THE SKY.

BUT YOU KNOW, WITH PARKING GARAGES, IT WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT FREE UP THE SPACE.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN DEFINITELY EMPHASIZE.

MAYOR. BUT ONE QUESTION I WANTED TO ASK AS WELL, I SPOKE WITH STAFF ABOUT IT.

YOUR TAKE ON CITY INITIATED REZONING AS AS A AS AN WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE COMPOUND.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY WITH LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL FLEX USE.

AGAIN, REZONING.

IT KIND OF INCENTIVIZES THESE BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL ENTITIES AS WELL, BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LONG PRE-APPLICATION MEETING TO APPLICATION TO COMING BEFORE PLANNING AND ZONING AND US BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY ZONED TO A SUITABLE FIT FOR THEM, I THINK THAT CAN HELP AS WELL.

SO I WANTED, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THINGS CHANGE.

THE CITY CAN MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

NOW IT'S THEIR PROPERTY.

SO THE CITY CANNOT JUST GO AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT UNLESS THERE IS, YOU KNOW, JUSTIFICATION.

AND THEY AGREED TO IT. AND THAT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

WE'RE REZONING A BUNCH OF PROPERTIES THE CITY INITIATED, AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO A VERY SIMILAR DISTRICT.

WE'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING A LOT OF THEIR REGULATIONS TODAY.

BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IF YOU DO LIKE A SMALL AREA PLAN OR SOMETHING FOR LIKE A COMPOUND AND YOU SHOW A MASTER PLAN AND YOU SHOW MAYBE THIS AREA SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL, YOU INVOLVE THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S THE WAY YOU CAN GET THERE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I THINK WE'RE.

WE'RE THERE. THAT'S GOOD, BUT I WANTED TO ECHO.

YES, SIR. AS YOU KNOW, IN OUR BRIEFINGS, I TALK ABOUT THESE INCENTIVES, ECONOMIC INCENTIVES.

SO I'M GOING TO ECHO AND PUT AN EXCLAMATION POINT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON JUST SAID, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AND THEN BACK, I MENTIONED PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS PREVIOUSLY.

WE HAD IT WHERE PEOPLE WERE PAYING FOR PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH STAFF.

AND THEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION.

WE LOOKED AT CHANGING IT.

WHERE ARE WE NOW? IS IT WHERE IT'S NO LONGER A FEE OR WITH THIS APPROVAL OR GO AHEAD.

YES. THANK YOU SIR. SO THE PRE-APPLICATION, WHEN WE LOOKED BACK AT THAT, BASED ON YOUR QUESTION, IT HAD BEEN IN PLACE FOR A COUPLE OF FISCAL CYCLES, BUT THEN IT HAD FALLEN OFF.

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SO THE FEE GOT REESTABLISHED LIKE LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS, OR WHENEVER IT WAS.

SO WE PLANNED TO DISCUSS THAT AS ONE OF OUR ITEMS THAT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 22ND, MAKE SURE YOU ALL WERE STILL GOOD WITH THAT.

AND IF YOU ARE, THEN THAT WOULD BE PART OF OUR SEPTEMBER FEE ADOPTION TO AGAIN REMOVE THAT AS YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY DIRECTED.

OKAY. THAT WORKS.

AND HONESTLY, MAYOR, I THINK THAT'S THE BEST CASE SCENARIO.

HAVING THIS TABLE TO THAT AUGUST 22ND, BECAUSE THE TWO GO HAND IN HAND.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LDC.

AND THERE'S A LOT THAT TIES IN WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WITH WHAT I'M SAYING.

ALL OF US ARE SAYING.

SO I THINK IT'S A WIN WIN ON THAT.

SO YEAH, I WAS THINKING I WAS THINKING JUST HAVE THIS EVEN FURTHER OUT TO AUGUST 29TH, ADDING ANOTHER MEETING JUST FOR THIS, OKAY? AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO JUGGLE BOTH ONCE WE GET THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP, NOW WE'RE WE'RE COMING BACK HERE OR THAT THIS CAN TAKE A LOT MORE BECAUSE MY WHOLE GOAL IS FOR THE COMMUNITY'S ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT.

THE STAKEHOLDERS ENGAGEMENT AND TODAY, YOU KNOW, IS THE 8TH OF AUGUST.

SO IF WE COME BACK THE 22ND, IS THAT ENOUGH TIME? AM I PUTTING STAFF IN A POSITION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, HOLD DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS AT THE SAME TIME? SO I WAS THINKING GIVING THEM ANOTHER WEEK, BUT I'M I'M OPEN.

THE 22ND IS FINE.

I'M I WAS JUST THINKING SHARING MY THOUGHTS, MAYBE GIVING THEM ENOUGH TIME SO THAT WE HAVE EVERYONE THAT'S A STAKEHOLDER MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, SEE HOW THOSE COMMENTS GO AND WEIGH IN ON OUR FIRST READING.

OKAY, THEN LET ME ASK MISS SHERMAN WHAT STAKEHOLDERS DO WE HAVE CONFIRMED OR THAT WE'VE REACHED OUT TO FOR THE AUGUST 22ND MEETING REGARDING THE ECONOMIC COMPONENT? WELL, WE WERE WE'RE I'VE REACHED OUT.

WE'VE REACHED OUT TO SOME. I'LL TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE IN A MOMENT, BUT WE ARE ALSO WAITING UNTIL THIS DISCUSSION TONIGHT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DATE YOU WOULD PICK.

BECAUSE IF YOU DO THE 29TH, WE ABSOLUTELY.

IF YOU ALL COULD MAKE IT, WE ABSOLUTELY CAN PUT EVEN MORE POTENTIAL STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS IN PLACE.

BUT THINKING ABOUT BOTH THE 22ND AND THE 29TH AS POSSIBILITIES, WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DATE OPTIONS, TIMES OF DAY, DIFFERENT DAYS TO TRY TO PROVIDE AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES AS POSSIBLE.

WE LOOKED AT VIRTUAL MEETINGS, BUT HEARING YOUR CONVERSATION, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT THAT WE ALSO HAVE AT LEAST ONE MEETING, LIKE HERE IN CHAMBERS.

SO WE CAN HAVE, YOU KNOW, BOTH VIRTUAL AND AND IN PERSON.

BUT GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, WHAT WE DID WAS WE HAD OUTREACH FROM HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION GROUP, SPACE ASSOCIATION.

REALTORS. SO SOME OF THE LEADERS OF THAT GROUP.

THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO US THROUGH EMAIL.

SO WE SENT SO I SENT A RESPONSE YESTERDAY TO TELL THEM WHAT WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, ABOUT TABLING.

I TOLD THEM THAT WE WERE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE POTENTIAL DATES TO DISCUSS THAT.

AS I TALKED WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT AND THAT WE WERE GOING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR FEEDBACK, DISCUSSION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALSO ASKED STAFF TO DO, BECAUSE OF THE CONCERNS AND UNDERSTANDING THE VOLUME OF PAGES THAT'S INVOLVED IN HOW CONFUSING THAT WAS FOR SOME FOLKS IS WE'RE I THINK WE'RE JUST ABOUT FINISHED WITH KIND OF AN OUTLINE THAT GOES FURTHER INTO PROVIDING.

I'LL DESCRIBE IT AS LIKE A BULLETED LIST OF EVERYTHING THAT'S CHANGED WITH WITH THE REFERENCE, WHAT SECTION IT'S IN.

BUT WE DID THAT TO TRY TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE ACCESSIBLE TO FOLKS.

SO THE POWERPOINT WAS WAS EXCELLENT.

I THOUGHT IT DID A GOOD JOB, BUT IF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S ACTUALLY CHANGING, WHAT WE'RE PREPARING AS A DOCUMENT TO ALSO HAND OUT, SEND OUT TO EVERYONE, WE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU ALL. YOU CAN PASS IT AROUND WHEREVER YOU WANT TO SEND IT, BECAUSE WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE IT AS THE INFORMATION AS EASY TO ACCESS AS POSSIBLE.

AND WE KNOW IT WAS CONFUSING TAKING HUNDREDS OF PAGES AND, YOU KNOW, SAYING WE'RE REPEALING THIS ENTIRE CHAPTER AND MOVING IT OVER HERE.

AND IT'S HARD SOMETIMES FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT ALL THOSE PAGES AND FIND WHAT ACTUALLY CHANGED.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

WE'LL HAVE THAT DONE, I THINK MAYBE BY MONDAY I THINK WAS OUR GOAL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY A LIST THAT WILL BE EVERY EVERYTHING THAT'S CHANGED BUT AN EXPLANATION SO PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND SO THEY CAN ACCESS WHAT IT IS, AND THEN THEY CAN QUICKLY GLANCE AT IT AND BE LIKE, OH, THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO ME.

I'LL MOVE ON. I KEEP LOOKING, AND THEN IF I SEE SOMETHING, IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME AS A HOME BUILDER, YOU KNOW, AS A PRIVATE RESIDENT, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN HONE IN ON.

SO THAT WAS ONE SUGGESTION WE HAD OPEN TO OTHER SUGGESTIONS.

BUT YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN IS TO TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MANY OF THESE INTERACTIVE SESSIONS WITH BEYOND JUST THE FOLKS WE'VE REACHED OUT TO, ANYBODY ELSE YOU HEAR FROM ANYONE, WE GET CONTACTED BY ANYONE WHO IS HERE TONIGHT, WHO WANTS TO BE A PART OF THAT.

WE'LL SEND IT TO AS MANY AS AS ARE INTERESTED.

AND I THOUGHT WHEN YOU EXPLAIN THAT, THAT THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA AND I THINK I SEEN JOHNNY GIANCARLO BROWN JUST LABOR INTENSIVE OVER THAT, THAT SHEET THAT

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SHE'S WORKING ON. SO KUDOS TO STAFF.

KUDOS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP IN ASSISTING PEOPLE DIGEST THIS WHOLE 1400 PAGE.

WHAT WAS IT YOU CALLED IT, MR. RODRIGUEZ? GARGANTUAN.

GARGANTUAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A FEW, A FEW MORE.

AND I'M OPEN EITHER WAY TO AUGUST 20TH 2ND OR AUGUST 29TH.

WHEN I'M THINKING OF STAKEHOLDERS, I'M THINKING OF THE LINDA WEATHERMAN'S.

I'M THINKING OF THE, YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING OF THE CHAMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THESE COMPANIES THAT ARE GOING TO OTHER AREAS BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE FLORIDA, AS, YOU KNOW, INVESTED IN, YOU KNOW, BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY.

SO IN THOSE WITH THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS, HEY, LET'S GET THEM HERE SO THEY CAN TELL US WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.

BECAUSE IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR LAND, WE HAVE PLENTY OF IT.

THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, BUILD THEIR ROCKETS IN OUR BACKYARD.

OH, NO. NOW YOU'RE NOW YOU'RE HITTING IT.

NOW THEY CAN BUILD THEIR ROCKETS IN OUR BACKYARD AND SHIP THEM UP TO CAPE CANAVERAL AND GO FROM THERE, YOU KNOW? SO THAT WAY WE'RE CREATING JOBS, WE'RE CREATING OPPORTUNITIES.

THEN THAT'S GOING TO BRING THE RESTAURANTS IN AND THAT'S GOING TO REVITALIZE THIS AREA.

SO KEEP IN MIND STARCOM IS HERE.

YEP. STARCOM.

YEP. YOU'RE RIGHT. YES, SIR.

YEAH. BUT TWO I THINK I GOT TWO MAYBE THREE MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

BUT RIGHT ALONG THE LINE GO AHEAD.

THE EDC, I THINK THAT'S CRUCIAL.

RIGHT. THE EDC KNOWS THAT THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE LOST TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND I CAN MENTION THEM, I CAN RATTLE OFF A FEW COMMUNITIES, BUT I'LL SAVE THAT. THEY KNOW THAT THAT DATA.

THEY KNOW WHAT? HOW WE LOST THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO IF THEY COULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT, BUT CARRY ON.

YES, SIR. WITH MULTIFAMILY, I'VE ALWAYS HAD CONFLICTION WITH THAT ONE, BECAUSE.

IS IT TOWNHOMES? IS IT CONDOS? IS IT APARTMENTS? ME PERSONALLY, I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION AND DEFINITION BETWEEN THE ONES THAT CAN BE OWNED AND THE ONES THAT CAN'T BE OWNED, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'LL HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT AND UNDERSTANDING.

DO YOU HAVE A TAKE ON THAT OR.

YEAH, IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE CANNOT MAKE THAT DIFFERENTIATION.

NO. OKAY. I MEAN, IN THE BUILDING CODE, THEY MAKE THAT DIFFERENTIATION BECAUSE OF FIRE ISSUES AND ALL THAT.

BUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE CANNOT DO THAT.

AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT SPECIFICALLY SAY YOU CAN HAVE APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, RIGHT? LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE TYPE OF OWNERSHIP.

AND ALSO YOU GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE A BUILDING THAT STARTS OFF AS A AS A APARTMENT AND BECOMES A CONDOMINIUM BECAUSE AS IT'S PERMITTED BY STATE STATUTE OR VICE VERSA, YOU CAN HAVE A CONDOMINIUM THAT THEN GETS CONVERTED INTO AN APARTMENT.

NO. LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MAKES A DISTINCTION AS TO OWNERSHIP.

AND THEN YOU'RE OPENING THE DOOR TO A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP IS GOING TO HAVE TO REQUIRE SOMEONE TO COME IN FOR A REZONING BECAUSE OF THE STYLE OF OWNERSHIP.

SO THAT'S THAT'S FAIRLY UNCOMMON.

I THINK THAT'S FAIR, THOUGH.

I THINK IF THEY ARE STARTING OFF AS APARTMENTS AND THEY WANT TO CONSIDER CHANGING TO A CONDOMINIUM, I THINK THAT SHOULD COME TO A COUNCIL.

OR IF THEY'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO PULL A QUICK SWITCHEROO AND CHANGE FROM CONDOS TO APARTMENTS THAT SHOULD COME BEFORE US, BEFORE IT'S ABLE TO JUST BE DONE OR TALK TO ME, SIR, I SEE YOUR FACE.

YEAH, YEAH, IT'S JUST AN AREA OF WHERE WE'RE I JUST PROVIDE CAUTION INTO REGULATING STYLES OF OWNERSHIP AND GOING TOO MUCH INTO THE THE AFFECTING PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY RIGHTS.

YES, SIR. WE DO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN TOWNHOMES AND MULTIFAMILY.

NOW WE SEPARATE SEPARATED THOSE TWO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

LAST QUESTION.

I BELIEVE ON THE RC TO NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW IN PALM BAY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TENDS TO WARRANT A CERTAIN STYLE OF DOLLAR STORES, I'LL SAY.

ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS WITH CHANGING FROM RC TO NC OF OPENING THAT UP EVEN FURTHER OR.

AND AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE CANNOT SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT TYPE OF STORES OR, YOU KNOW, WE WANT YOU KNOW, THERE ARE INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE SEEN USED IN OTHER PLACES, LIKE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT IN THIS CODE, BUT WE'VE WORKED ON IT BEFORE WHERE YOU MAY ALLOW NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY IF THEY COMPLY WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS.

AND ONE OF THEM IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT IS A GROCERY STORE, IT HAS TO INCLUDE FRESH FOOD BECAUSE DOLLAR STORES, SOMETIMES THEY SAY THEY'RE GROCERY STORES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FRESH FOOD. SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE HAVE DONE IT, THAT IT KIND OF WORKS THAT WAY.

YES. YES, MA'AM. AND COMMISSIONER, JUST I HAVE ACTUALLY DRAFTED AN ORDINANCE WHICH REGULATES WHAT ARE CALLED DOLLAR.

THE NOT THE LEGAL TERM WE CREATED WAS SMALL BOX STORES.

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AND IT IS THEY THEY ARE SUBJECT TO DISTANCING REQUIREMENTS.

THEY'RE LIMITED TO SPECIFIC ZONING CATEGORIES.

I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE WE WE HAD CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND I MEAN, THE, THE ORDINANCE I DRAFTED WAS ACTUALLY MODELED AFTER ONE THAT KANSAS CITY ACTUALLY DRAFTED.

SO THIS WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

I DRAFTED ONE FOR THE CITY OF APOPKA, OKAY.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WAS THAT THE PROLIFERATION OF THESE TYPES OF STORES ACTUALLY CREATED FOOD DESERTS.

YES, SIR. SO THAT WAS THE STUDY AND THE AND THE JUSTIFICATIONS INVOLVED.

YOU CAN EASILY DO A STUDY, AND GIS CAN DO A STUDY WHERE YOU DETERMINE WHETHER THERE'S A FOOD DESERT AND THEN YOU HAVE SPACING REQUIREMENTS.

SO IT WAS ALMOST IT'S IT'S AKIN TO AN ADULT ENTERTAINMENT STYLE THAT YOU CAN HAVE STORES.

THERE HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 1000FT BETWEEN OR MILE RADIUS BETWEEN STORES, SO THAT YOU CAN LIMIT THE PROLIFERATION OF THE STORES.

AND TO DATE, WE HAD NOT SEEN ANY, ANY TYPE OF LEGAL CHALLENGES.

TO THOSE AT LEAST IF YOU JUSTIFY THE, YOU KNOW, THE RATIONAL BASIS AND YOUR YOUR BASIS FOR, YOU KNOW, PROTECTING HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE CITY.

YES. CITIES HAVE REGULATED THOSE TYPES OF STORES, AND THERE ARE ZONING CATEGORIES THAT HAVE BEEN DRAFTED IN THAT FIELD.

I MEAN, I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS, AND THAT'S WE AS I SAY, WE BASED OURS ON ON KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI, KANSAS CITY, KANSAS, ONE OF THE TWO KANSAS CITIES.

NOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE.

NO, THAT'S THAT'S FINE, SIR, BECAUSE ON A TANGENT, IRONICALLY, THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS I WAS WORKING WITH CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON SOME LANGUAGE LIKE THAT.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH STAFF, MAYOR, THE COUNCIL'S CONSENT.

I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND TRY TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.

CARRY ON. JUST CALL THEM SMALL BOX STORES.

YEAH, YEAH. OKAY.

BECAUSE. YES, MA'AM.

GO AHEAD. INTERJECT, PLEASE.

SO WHEN WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, WE HAD A LIMITED SCOPE.

AND HAVING WORKED IN OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE WE DID A COMPLETE REWRITE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SOMETIMES IT WAS LIKE, I WISH I COULD PUT MY HANDS INTO THAT SECTION AND CHANGE IT, BUT WE HAD TO KEEP IT LIMITED.

NOW THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IT'S A LOT EASIER TO AMEND THAN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SO ONCE YOU HAVE A REORGANIZED CODE, YOU CAN START CHANGING BITS AND PIECES OF IT, LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WITH THIS ROUND.

SOME PEOPLE BROUGHT UP SOME INTERESTING SUGGESTIONS AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT THAT, I MEAN, YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES NEXT MONTH AND THE FOLLOWING MONTHS, AND YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KEEP EMBELLISHING THE CODE IF YOU WANT TO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT THE MAIN GOAL IS JUST COMPLIANCE WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

WELL THANK YOU I'M GOOD RIGHT NOW.

MAYOR. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

I I YOU'VE TAKEN THE NOTES OF WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO, WHAT DATE, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR, THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WORKING TO THIS.

SO NOW AS WE GO ON, WE'LL WE'LL HAVE PEOPLE SPEAK AT THIS POINT.

OR DO I WOULD ADVISE WE HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND I THINK I ENVISION THAT THE FIRST READING WAS GOING TO BE DONE OVER TWO DIFFERENT MEETINGS.

SO I THINK IT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE PUBLIC.

THEY'RE HERE. THEY'VE TAKEN THEIR TIME OUT OF THEIR DAY TO BE HERE.

I THINK THEY THEY CAN BE THEY SHOULD CAN THEY SHOULD SO SHOULD BE HEARD.

ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

RAISE YOUR HAND. OH, OKAY.

WELL. NO CARDS? NO. WELL, NO. IT'S.

COME ON UP.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AND MAYOR STAFF.

ONE OF THE THINGS I SEE, AND AGAIN, HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DIGEST IT OTHER THAN TONIGHT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS 15 MINUTE CITIES.

I REALLY AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.

THOSE CLUSTER HOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEY'RE THEY'RE PART OF AN IDEOLOGY THAT'S WRONG.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING HERE RIGHT NOW IS NOT AFFORDABLE FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

MOST OF THE RENT THAT I'VE SEEN AROUND FOR WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE IS BEACHSIDE.

LIKE, I MEAN, PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST LIVING HERE ARE JUST LIVING HERE.

AND THEY THEY CAN'T AFFORD A LOT OF THAT.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE I DON'T SEE HERE IS I SEE A LOT OF INCENTIVES, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY PENALTIES.

SO IF WE HAVE BUILDERS THAT DON'T DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO DO, THINGS GET ABANDONED.

THE THE COMPOUND IS THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE OF THAT.

I MEAN THINGS DON'T HAPPEN THE WAY THEY SHOULD.

MY SUGGESTION FOR THAT IS TO DON'T GET THE IMPACT FEES RIGHT UP FRONT.

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PUT THEM IN EACH PART OF THE PROJECT SO THAT THEY HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROJECT, SO THAT IF THEY DON'T ACHIEVE THAT GOAL, THEY DON'T FINISH A PROJECT, THEN THEY HAVE TO PAY THE IMPACT FEES FOR THE REST OF THE PROJECT AND ADDITION PENALTIES FOR NOT FINISHING. DON'T REWARD OR GIVE PEOPLE INCENTIVES OR BUSINESSES INCENTIVES IF THEY HAVEN'T FINISHED ANYTHING.

I USED TO BE A CONSULTANT.

WE DIDN'T FINISH IT, WE GOT PENALIZED.

SO WE HAD TO LIVE UP TO OUR THE WHAT WE PUT IN OUR RFP AND OUR RESPONSE.

AND AND THERE'S TOO MANY INCENTIVES IN HERE.

THE OTHER PART ABOUT THAT IS THAT WE'VE HAD TOO MANY FAILURES AS FAR AS HOUSING GETTING ABANDONED.

I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THE LAST MEETING ON AUGUST 1ST, BUT I DID WATCH IT ALL TODAY, ALL THREE HOURS OF IT.

SO I DID SEE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ABANDONED HOMES, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE JUST.

THE CONSTRUCTION AROUND IS INCONSIDERATE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE THERE.

I MEAN, WHEN PEOPLE WERE BUILDING ON MY NEXT TO MY PROPERTY, THEY TRIED TO TAKE MY WATER AND I WAS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT JUST TO CLEAN THEIR STUFF.

SO I HAD TO SEND IN A COMPLAINT.

I MEAN, IT'S JUST INCONSIDERATE, NOT NEIGHBORLY THINGS THAT SHOULD BE GODLIKE.

I MEAN, AS WE WERE ALL TALL, DON'T YOU KNOW, INVADE SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING ON? SO. SO A LOT OF THAT, THAT THOSE THINGS IN HERE OTHER THAN THE THE REZONING SITUATION IS THAT ZONING WAS THERE FOR A REASON.

SO YOU DON'T KNOW.

MAJORS IS THE PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.

YOU DON'T KNOW, PUTTING ALL THOSE HOUSES THAT THEY WANTED TO OR THE APARTMENTS THEY WANTED TO.

YOU DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SINKHOLE OUT THERE OR YOU DON'T.

THAT KIND OF STUFF.

IT WAS IT WAS ZONED FOR, FOR A GOLF COURSE.

SO TO DROP ALL KINDS OF HOMES ON IT IS IS RIDICULOUS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. EXCUSE ME.

MA'AM. MA'AM, WOULD YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? RUTH CAULFIELD, 935 DOUGLAS STREET.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MICHAEL MORIARTY, 742 CORNELIA AVENUE SOUTHEAST.

FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO APPLAUD YOU ON THE CONVENTION.

CENTER. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED, ALONG WITH A LOT OF COMMERCIAL, TO BALANCE OUT ALL THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING.

NOW, LET ME GET TO MY PERSONAL ISSUE.

BEAR WITH ME. I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES, SO I'M GOING TO WING IT HERE.

LAST YEAR, SEPTEMBER 30TH, WE HAD MAJOR FLOODING HERE IN PALM BAY AND THE STORM DRAINS WERE A BIG ISSUE.

I BELIEVE A COUPLE DAYS AFTER THAT, I SPOKE TO YOU, MR. MAYOR. AT WHICH TIME YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PASS IT OFF TO THE CITY MANAGER AND DIRECTOR TO TAKE CARE OF THIS. DID I SPEAK TO YOU OR DID I SEND YOU? I GOT ALL THE TEXTS. I GOT THE CONVERSATIONS.

I GOT THE PICTURES THAT I SENT TO YOU.

I SENT YOU AN EMAIL.

RIGHT? I KNOW YOU SENT.

WE WERE TEXTING BACK AND FORTH, IF YOU REMEMBER.

OKAY. I SENT YOU PICTURES OF MY PROPERTY THAT WAS DESTROYED BY THIS STORM DRAIN.

OKAY? MY DRIVEWAY EVEN BURST A PIPE IN MY SEPTIC.

AND ALL THIS FALLS ON ME.

NOW, WHEN I SPOKE TO MISS SHERMAN HERE, I DON'T THINK SHE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN EVEN HEARING ABOUT THIS.

I WAS PASSED ON TO A PERSON WHEN I STARTED.

I ASKED THE THE QUESTION OF LIABILITY, YOU KNOW, AND IT WAS JUST PASSED RIGHT OFF.

THEN I GOT THE EXCUSE WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR A NATURAL CAUSES.

SHE OVERLOOKED THE WHOLE POINT.

IT WAS CITY PROPERTY THAT WAS UNMAINTAINED.

THAT DESTROYED MY DRIVEWAY AND OTHER PARTS OF MY.

MY PROPERTY IS ERODING NOW.

THE VERY NEXT DAY, AFTER SPEAKING TO HER PUBLIC WORKS SHOWS UP AT MY MY PLACE TO DUMP MORE SAND TO ERODE BACK DOWN IN.

NOW I'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET ON THE SIDE OF MY DRIVEWAY TO GET OUT OF MY VEHICLES.

IT'S GOTTEN KIND OF RIDICULOUS NOW.

WHEN PUBLIC WORKS CAME OUT, THEY DUMPED THE SAND.

THEY LEFT. THEY CAME BACK A FEW MORE WEEKS LATER, DID THE SAME THING.

AND I EXPLAINED TO THEM, UNTIL YOU PUT HEADWALLS IN AND BACKFILL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME ONGOING ISSUE

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HERE. AND THEN JUST RECENTLY THEY COME OUT AND THEY PUT A 36 INCH PIPE RUNNING FROM UNDER THE ROAD TO THE STORM DRAIN ON MY SIDE OF THE STREET TO A 24 INCH.

NOW, IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER FLOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE ASKING INDIVIDUALS TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

OKAY? AND AND YOUR ITEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, AND I'LL LET YOU.

WE'VE ALREADY SHARED.

I WAS DOING ALREADY. YES, SIR.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ITEM.

I LET YOU CONTINUE, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING.

WE'RE SPEAKING ON THE ITEM THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT REGARDING OUR LAND CODES.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO I KNOW THE CASE.

I REMEMBER THE CASE THAT I GOT STAFF INVOLVED.

WHEN YOU SEND ME THAT EMAIL AND SUCH.

SO I DO REMEMBER THIS CASE.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE OUTCOME OF THE CASE BECAUSE STAFF WAS WORKING ON THIS.

AND AND IF IT'S A PRIVATE ISSUE, THEN I UNDERSTAND.

BUT SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

OKAY. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP.

AT THIS TIME. NEXT SPEAKER.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THE FIRST ITEM WAS CLUSTER HOMES.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP PREVIOUSLY AND IT KIND OF DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE INSIDE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

YOU'VE GOT SIZES THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR THE SIZE OF LOTS THAT HAVE TO BE IN.

YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THERE, BUT THEN THE CLUSTER HOME SITE THAT WAS PROPOSED, I COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING THAT GAVE ANY SIZE OF WHAT THE LOTS WERE GOING TO BE, WHAT SIZE THEY WERE GOING TO BE.

AND THEN THAT ALSO LEADS US TO THE CONGESTION THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE STREETS OF CLUSTER HOMES.

SO I PERSONALLY KIND OF SEE CLUSTER HOME SITES AS A STEP BACKWARDS INSTEAD OF A STEP FORWARD, BECAUSE WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS SAY, WELL, IT'S A SMALL DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR 20% GREEN SPACE, WE'LL JUST PUT THE HOMES CLOSER TOGETHER.

WE DEFEATED BOTH PURPOSES.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE IS TAKE A SECONDARY LOOK AT CLUSTER HOME.

I THINK THEY'RE CALLED. IT'S ON SECTION 173.

IT'S ON CODE Q RIGHT.

THE NEXT ONE PENALTIES WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP.

THIS IS REFERRING TO SECTION 175.014 WHICH IS IN TREE REMOVAL SECTION.

WHEN THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT ALSO, AND THERE WAS NOTHING FOR PENALTIES.

PEOPLE GO IN AND DO THE ACTION, THEY CUT THE TREE DOWN OR WHATEVER IT IS, OR DO A MASSIVE STRIP CLEARING AND THEN SAY, WELL, I'M SORRY.

MAKE THE PENALTY WORTHWHILE.

MAKE THE PENALTY SO, SO SEVERE THAT THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND FILE TO TRY AND SAVE THE TREES.

THEY'LL PUT THEIR PAPERWORK IN THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO DO IT.

AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WAS, WELL, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY WHAT DO WE CALL THEM? SIGNATURE TREES ON THE PROPERTY UNTIL IF IT'S ALREADY GONE, YOU DON'T KNOW IT.

SO THAT SAID, WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE PERMITS NOW FOR CLEARING OF ANYTHING.

WELL, THAT'S AFTER THE FACT.

IF THEY'VE ALREADY CLEARED IT AND THEN SAY, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR PERMITS.

SO LET'S MAKE THE PENALTIES WORTHWHILE.

SO WE HAVE A BENEFIT OUT OF THE BAD BEHAVIOR.

ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE WAS TEN.

CONVERTING 10 TO 15 I DON'T DON'T REMEMBER WHAT SECTION IT WAS IN BUT WE ALREADY HAVE 15 RATINGS.

SO WHY CHANGE IT TEN TO A 15.

WE ALREADY HAVE OUR 15.

SO WHY WHY EXTEND THE AMOUNT OF POPULATION YOU CAN PUT ON THAT ONE.

RIGHT. THIS ONE IS KIND OF TONGUE IN CHEEK, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.

AND THAT IS ONCE A SECTION 176 SAID SIDEWALKS WILL BE PROVIDED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.

WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY HARD TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT IT'S IN YOUR CODE.

AND LAST ONE IS WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION OF DEVELOPMENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND GET THEIR INPUT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT'S ALSO VERY IMPORTANT, EVEN MORE SO TO ME IS THE RESIDENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE, THAT IT'S THEIR STAKEHOLDER BECAUSE IT'S THEIR LIFESTYLE THAT THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.

RIGHT. WELL, I MADE IT IN TIME AND GOOD LUCK.

AND. COUNCILMAN.

WEINBERG. YOU LOOK GOOD UP THERE.

THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CATHERINE BOOTH.

I WAS INVITED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.

I HAVE A CONSERVATION GROUP.

LET'S BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THE LAGOON.

WITH A FOCUS ON PROTECTING FLORIDA'S MATURE NATIVE TREES.

TO CAPTURE STORM WATER TO PROTECT THE LAGOON FROM RUNOFF.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VOTE TONIGHT WAS TO APPROVE REFORMATTING OF THE ORDINANCE.

HOWEVER, THERE ARE CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE TO IMPROVE THE ORDINANCE IN REGARD TO LAGOON PROTECTIONS.

IT'S GOOD THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE ALREADY INCLUDED IN CHAPTER 175.

SECTION 175.021 ALLOWS 100% NON-NATIVE TURFGRASS LAWNS AND SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITS NATIVES IN SWALES.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY RECOMMENDS LOW GROWING NATIVE GROUND COVERS INSTEAD OF TURF TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TABLE.

FOR AN EXAMPLE OF THIS BEING DONE ELSEWHERE, THE CITY OF VERO BEACH RESTRICTED TURFGRASS TO 25% OF THE LANDSCAPE IN 2022.

ALSO IN SECTION .021, PLEASE ALLOW MEDIUM CANOPY TREES AS WELL AS SMALL TREES WHICH ARE CURRENTLY OMITTED.

SOUTHERN LIVE OAKS ARE THE TREE MOST IMPORTANT FOR SHADE AND ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS, BUT IN THE URBAN SETTING THEY ARE NEVER ALLOWED TO BE THEIR MOST BEAUTIFUL MATURE SIZE BECAUSE OF ROUTINE PRUNING AT GREAT COST TO THE CITY TAXPAYER.

MEDIUM AND SMALL TREES COULD BE UTILIZED MUCH MORE IN URBAN LANDSCAPES TO REDUCE SPACE AND COST.

THANK YOU FOR PROHIBITING HAT RACKING AND TOPPING IN SECTION.

SOMETHING'S HAPPENING HERE WITH MY PHONE 175.028.

BUT ANOTHER PRUNING METHOD THINNING, IS EXPRESSLY ALLOWED.

HOWEVER, PRUNING NATIVE TREES FOR WIND RESISTANCE IS NOT SCIENTIFIC, AND THE SUBSTANTIAL LOSS OF LEAVES FROM EGREGIOUS PRUNING METHODS OF RAISING, THINNING, AND LINES TAILING REMOVES THE BENEFITS FOUND ONLY AT THE LEAF LEVEL.

THE BENEFITS OF LEAVES PROVIDED TO THE CITY FOR FREE ARE STATED IN THE PREAMBLE OF THE LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE AS ASSISTING WITH CLIMATE CONTROL AND WATER QUALITY.

IN CHAPTER 179, OCEAN RESEARCH CONSERVATION ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS A 20 FOOT SHORELINE BUFFER OF NATIVE PLANTS ON LAGOON WATERFRONT PROPERTY AND BUFFERS ON EDGES OF STORMWATER PONDS TO FILTER POLLUTANTS BEFORE THE STORMWATER REACHES THE LAGOON.

A FINAL RECOMMENDATION, INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, PROHIBITS CYPRESS MULCH TO PREVENT DEFORESTATION OF CYPRESS WETLANDS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING CATEGORIES OF PROTECTED AND SPECIMEN TREES AND REQUIRING MORE REPLACEMENT TREES TO MITIGATE REMOVAL.

ON THE DOWNSIDE, YOUNG TREES WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME ECOLOGICAL BENEFITS TO THE CITY AS MATURE TREES DO FOR MANY DECADES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN DEVELOPERS ARE BUILDING MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTIES, INCREASED MITIGATION FEES ARE STILL NOT HIGH ENOUGH TO PREVENT CLEAR CUTTING.

ANOTHER WAY NEEDS TO BE FOUND TO PREVENT LOSS OF THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. BEFORE WE CARRY ON STAFF, I'D LIKE TO TO MAKE THESE NOTES AND SEE HOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE.

I THINK WE'RE ALL WRITING THEM DOWN, AND WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON EVERY SINGLE ONE.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, MISS SUE.

YOU'RE NEXT SIR.

YOU CAN COME SIT UP HERE IF YOU LIKE.

NO. SUE, YOU'RE YOU'RE NEXT.

YOU CAN COME UP HERE IF YOU LIKE, SIR.

THANK YOU. SUSAN CONNOLLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST.

WOW, WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR INCLUDING CITIZENS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY TWO WORDS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

FUTURISTIC, INNOVATIVE.

SO I DIDN'T SEE FOR THINGS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN POSSIBLY THINK OF RIGHT NOW.

COULD WE BUILD THIS IN THE CODE? THINGS FOR SOLAR HOMES THINK HOMES THAT ARE USING ALTERNATIVES TO WASTE MANAGEMENT HOMES THAT ARE TINY LITTLE HOMES THAT TRADITIONALLY CAN'T GET INSURANCE OR CAN'T GET THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T FIT RIGHT NOW, THE HUMANITY HUMANITY.

I FORGOT THE NAME, BUT THEY'RE BUILDING IN MELBOURNE 3D HOUSES.

COULD WE BUILD A 3D HOUSE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT SHOULD BE IN OUR CODE.

THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY.

THE OTHER THING REGARDING BUSINESSES.

THE SAME WITH THAT TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES THAT ARE, AGAIN FUTURISTIC AND INNOVATIVE.

WE HAVE ONE SUCH BUSINESS.

IT'S A SOLAR ELECTRIC CAR THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED RIGHT HERE AT FIT.

IN FACT, I WAS 001 THE FIRST TEST DRIVER OF IT.

AND BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

WE WANT TO PROMOTE AS WELL AS ATTRACT.

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SO AGAIN, I WOULD JUST LIKE OUR CODE TO HAVE SOME SECTION THAT ALLOWS THE CITY TO DEAL WITH THESE INNOVATIVE, OUT OF THE BOX WAYS OF HELPING CITIZENS BUILD AND MOVE IN A DIRECTION THAT BENEFITS US ALL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

KEN FARLEY, 1940 WINBROOK DRIVE.

CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC, SIR? THANK. THANK YOU.

I HAVE A BASIC QUESTION.

AND THE BASIC QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE FOCUS ON GROWTH WHEN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS YEARS BEHIND WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'RE.

HOW CAN WE GROW MORE WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE? AND TO ME, THAT REALLY POINTS BACK TO THE REAL STAKEHOLDERS, THE RESIDENTS.

HOW CAN WE DO THAT? I MEAN, WHERE IS THAT IN THE PLANNING SYSTEM? WHERE IS THAT KEEPING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE? YOU LOOK AT IT WATER, YOU LOOK AT IT, SEWAGE, YOU LOOK AT IT, ROADS, EVERYTHING JUST GO UP AND DOWN MALABAR ROAD.

TRY TO GET ON 95.

WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GROW MORE WHEN WE'RE NOT EVEN KEEPING UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE? THAT'S MY BASIC QUESTION.

THANK YOU SIR.

AND WE'LL WE'LL GET SOMEONE TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE SEATS OR IF YOU'RE.

IF YOU'RE DONE, SIR.

OKAY, SO JUST A SECOND.

I WANTED TO JUST EXPLAIN THE PROCESS.

AND THE LAST TIME THAT WE, THIS COUNCIL HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ACCOMPLISHED, ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO GET A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS OF HOW WE GOT HERE AND AND AND WHAT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE DOING? SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAD NOT BEEN UPDATED FOR FOR MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

DECADES. DECADES.

YES, SIR. AND SO, THEREFORE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES WERE EQUALLY OUTDATED.

EVERYTHING WAS OUTDATED.

SO 2 OR 3 YEARS AGO, I GUESS WE STARTED ON THIS JOURNEY TO UPDATE EVERYTHING.

IT WAS A MASSIVE UNDERTAKING.

SO LAST YEAR WAS WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FINALLY GOT UPDATED AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

AND SO IT'S TAKEN US ALL THE TIME.

WE STARTED BEFORE THAT, BUT ALL THE TIME SINCE THEN TO NOW TO UPDATE OUR, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCES TO MATCH UP.

SO A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE SEE TODAY ARE BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE ORDINANCES DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH CHANGES NOT JUST AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT ALSO IN THE WORLD IN WHICH WE LIVE IN.

SO WE ARE ABSOLUTELY, 100% AGREE PLAYING CATCH UP RIGHT NOW.

WE KNOW THAT WE'RE IN THAT PLACE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST JUMPING AHEAD TO NEXT WEEK'S MEETING, I HAVE A MASSIVE DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WE NEED TO SPEND ON NEW FIRE STATIONS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP ON THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ROADS ARE NO EXCEPTION.

SO I MEAN, I COULD TALK FOR A LONG TIME, I'M SURE, ON ALL THE THINGS WE'RE DOING TO PLAN FOR WE HAVE MULTIPLE MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT ARE UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW FOR WIDENING. WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION, SIR, AND TALK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU AFTERWARD.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS AND TELL YOU WHERE WE'RE AT, I'M WORKING ON THOSE, IF YOU'D LIKE.

YEAH. THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND LEAVING YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION BECAUSE THERE'S A IT IS A HUGE OVERHAUL.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

WE'RE WAY BEHIND.

WE'VE BEEN BEHIND.

TEN YEARS AGO, WE WERE BEHIND.

NEXT SPEAKER. YES.

THANK YOU. ROGER ADAMS, 968 ULSTER AVENUE SOUTHEAST.

PALM BAY. 32909.

MY WIFE AND I ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE WERE NOTIFIED IT WAS BACK IN MAY OF A MEETING FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PLANNED ACROSS THE STREET FROM US IN A IN AN AREA THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED. IT'S ZONED FOR SOME KIND OF OPEN SPACE.

I THINK ORIGINALLY THEY INTENDED TO MAKE IT INTO A PARK OR A SCHOOL.

ANYWAY, IT'S ABOUT 12 ACRES OR SO.

IT'S OFF OF ULSTER AVENUE.

AND SO WE OF COURSE, SIR, I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE'RE WE'RE OKAY.

WE'RE TALKING. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHY I'M HERE.

OKAY? OKAY. YEAH.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S AT.

IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE PROCESS, AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ONE OF THE THE THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.

AS FAR AS THE THE CHANGES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, POSSIBLY THE DEVELOPERS ARE WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO SHOW UP AT ANY TIME, BUT

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I WANTED TO MAINLY JUST ECHO WHAT THE LAST GENTLEMAN HAD TO SAY, BECAUSE OUR BIG CONCERN FOR WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR AREA, WHICH IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, SIR, BUT IS.

IS, SIR. OKAY, I HAVE TO I HAVE TO CUT YOU OFF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER PROJECTS, THAT WHAT'S BEFORE US IS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

NOW, THE CODE IS NOW, IF YOU'RE OKAY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TO SHARE WITH ME ABOUT YOUR ISSUE AND AT A CERTAIN. OKAY.

SO THEN CARRY ON CARRY ON CARRY ON.

IN GENERAL THE WHOLE IDEA WHAT I, WHAT I SEE MISSING IN HERE IS CONCERN FOR EVACUATION ROUTES, FOR HURRICANES, FOR FIRES, FOR FLOODS.

WE LIVE IN AN AREA THAT HAS BEEN BLESSED BY SAFETY FROM A LOT OF THE DESTRUCTIVE HURRICANES IN RECENT TIMES.

WE'VE BEEN REALLY LUCKY, BUT THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.

AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WOULD HAVE A FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE IN PARTICULAR EVACUATION ROUTES, TRAFFIC STUDIES AND OF COURSE FIRE STATIONS, POLICE SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN GROW AS A COMMUNITY AT A PACE THAT ADDRESSES SAFETY ISSUES. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT.

YEAH. AND I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S A I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE YOUR NOMENCLATURE.

I WAS HOPING THERE WAS, LIKE, AN ABBREVIATION INDEX THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS.

BUT AT ANY RATE IT'S JUST THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THE THE THING THAT SEEMS TO BE MISSING HERE AS FAR AS A FOCUS AND BACK TO THE WHOLE BUSINESS ABOUT PENALTIES. IF IT COULD BE GET ON THE MIKE, SIR.

GET ON THE MIC. YES, SIR.

OH, OKAY. SORRY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE CHASING ME AWAY.

NO, WE CAN'T HEAR.

OKAY. THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE THE NEED FOR IT TO BE IN THE CODE IS SOMETHING THAT SEEMS TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

AND TO HAVE FOCUS ON INSTEAD OF GIVING BONUSES TO DEVELOPERS TO, LIKE, GET STARTED.

THE PERSON THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PENALTIES FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WHEN WE WENT TO THAT MEETING WHAT THEY AND FORGIVE ME IT'S IT'S IT SEEMS TO FIT IN WITH THIS ISSUE.

THE FOCUS WAS NOT ON THE THE STUDIES THAT HAD BEEN DONE THAT SHOWS THAT THEY COULD DO WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO IN OUR AREA BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE DONE A TRAFFIC STUDY.

WE'VE WE'VE LOOKED AT WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR NEAREST FIRE STATIONS.

OKAY. SO WHAT AREA WAS THAT? WHAT AREA IS THAT? IT'S ULSTER AVENUE.

ULSTER AVENUE. IT'S ONE OF AND IT'S CALLED THE GREEN VIEW.

I BELIEVE IN THE OKAY, I REMEMBER IT, SIR, I REMEMBER IT.

SO CAN YOU JUST.

YES. COULD I, COULD I, MR. ADAMS? YES. COULD I GET YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION BEFORE YOU LEAVE? WE WERE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT PROJECT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT.

WE'VE EXPRESSED THOSE TO THE DEVELOPER.

THEY DID A LOT OF THINGS WRONG ALREADY, SO WE'RE DEALING WITH THAT.

BUT I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU OFFLINE IF YOU DON'T MIND.

GREAT. IF WE CAN IF YOU EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY, IF YOU CAN GIVE YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO ONE OF MY TEAM HERE, THAT'D BE GREAT.

SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE THAT. YEAH. JUST WASN'T HONESTLY, IT WAS.

ANOTHER WAS A SERENADE AS WELL.

SANKOFA HAS, LIKE FOUR PARCELS THAT THEY OWN THAT ARE IN MIDDLE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE MULTIFAMILY.

SO YEAH, AND IT WASN'T THEY DIDN'T DO IT IN THE PROPER, PROPER FASHION IN ORDER.

THEY GOT ALL FOUR GROUPS IN THE ROOM AT THE SAME TIME INSTEAD OF HAVING A MEETING.

YEAH, WE KNOW IT WAS WRONG.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.

IT WASN'T EVEN PROPER.

SO THANK YOU.

LET GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR INFORMATION AND WE'LL REACH OUT TO YOU AND GET YOU ADDITIONAL DETAILS.

ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

SO WE DOCUMENTED THE CLUSTERS AND OKAY.

YES I WANTED TO ADD TO THE CLUSTER PROBLEM OKAY.

SO GOOD EVENING.

AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR IT WAS A GREAT POWERPOINT AND A LOT OF WORK.

PAT DALPRA FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE.

SO BACK TO THE CLUSTER.

WE FOUGHT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

THERE WERE SEVERAL DEVELOPERS THAT WANTED TO DEVELOP INSIDE A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

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SO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THOSE WERE.

OFF OF FALLON, ON BOTH SIDES BEHIND CENTER POINT AND SEVERAL OTHER PLACES.

SO THE CONCERN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST NIGHT IS THAT THAT WOULD KIND OF MAKE IT EASIER FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND USE THAT AS A REASON TO DEVELOP.

SO AND SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP THE BAYSIDE GOLF COURSE THAT THAT COULD ALSO BE AN EASY WAY TO GET DEVELOPERS IN THERE.

SO THAT NEEDS TO REALLY I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT TOTALLY.

THE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CODES AND ORDINANCES.

THEY'RE GREAT, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT FOLLOWS UP ON EACH ONE OF THOSE I HAVE SEVERAL AREAS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, ACTUALLY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BUILT THEY HAVE NOT REPLACED ANY TREES AT ALL.

THEY TORE ALL THE TREES DOWN.

THERE ARE NO TREES REPLACED.

AND SO I WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

AND WE'VE CALLED BUILDING DEPARTMENT MANY TIMES ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE BUILDING.

SO AGAIN, WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE? WHO'S GOING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THESE ORDINANCES AND MAKE SURE THEY FOLLOW THROUGH? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, REGARDING THOSE.

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT I'M ALL ABOUT ONE ACRE AND FIVE ACRE LOTS AND MAINTAINING THOSE. OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING THAT, I'M SURE SOMEHOW.

OKAY. NEXT SPEAKER.

YES, SIR. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

COME ON UP, MAYOR.

AS THE NEXT SPEAKER COMING FORWARD, ONE OF THE THING I BELIEVE BUILDING BUILDING IS NOT HERE FOR.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO NEW RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.

NO HOUSE, SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE CAN GET A PERMIT FINAL SEO WITHOUT HAVING AT LEAST FOUR TREES, AND I BELIEVE TEN SHRUBS. SO THAT IS SUPPOSED THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

SO IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THOSE ADDRESSES ARE.

AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE WHAT IT IS, AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S THE RULE.

SO I'LL BE INTERESTED TO FIND OUT WHO IT IS, WHERE, AND SO ON.

SO ONCE THEY MOVE IN AND THEY REMOVE IT, IT'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, CORRECT? OKAY. THAT'S ALL. I JUST I JUST GUESS PROPERTY RIGHTS.

OKAY. CARRY ON.

SIR, MY NAME IS JARED ELKINS.

I AM THE PRESIDENT AND FOUNDER OF ALETHEA HOLDINGS.

AND I'D LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY, FIRST AND FOREMOST TO THANK MAYOR MEDINA.

DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SHERMAN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE CONVERSATIONS, ALL OF THE MEETINGS WHICH HAVE PROVEN TO BE QUITE FRUITFUL.

I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT ALETHEA HOLDINGS HAS SELECTED PALM BAY TO MAKE IT ITS GLOBAL HEADQUARTERS.

WE WILL BE BRINGING THE ALETHEA FOUNDATION, WHICH IS OUR NON-OPERATIONAL FOUNDATION WHICH WORKS WITH LOCAL CHARITIES.

WE ARE NOT AN ACTUAL CHARITY.

WE WORK WITH LOCAL CHARITIES AND LOCAL STAKEHOLDERS BY DESIGN.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO IS BUILD A PARTNERSHIP WITH CITY GOVERNMENT AND CITY MANAGEMENT, WHICH WE HAVE BEGUN IN EARNEST OVER THE SUMMER AND I AM ABSOLUTELY PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE AS I SAID, ELECTED PALM BAY OVER RENO, AND WE WILL BEGIN NEXT WEEK IN EARNEST FOR FORMAL NEGOTIATIONS, APPLICATION PROCESSES AND MOVING FORWARD.

MAYOR MEDINA, I SHARE YOUR VISION FOR WHAT PALM BAY COULD BE AND WHAT AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US TODAY.

HAVING A NEWLY MINTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE RESIDENTIAL STAKEHOLDERS, DEVELOPERS, INVESTORS, ENTREPRENEURS, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT COLLECTIVELY AND COLLABORATIVELY, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE FOR SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALL STAND HEAD HEADS HELD HIGH, THAT WE DID THIS.

THIS WASN'T FORCED ON ANYONE BY ANYONE.

THIS WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT PUT TOGETHER FOR THE COMMUNITY, BY THE COMMUNITY, OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT, BY DEFINITION, IS HOW YOU BUILD COMMUNITY.

I AM SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE ARE TABLING THIS DISCUSSION, GIVING EVERYONE THE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD IN A COLLECTIVE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERYONE IS REPRESENTED IN THE PROCESS.

WE HAVE A DEVELOPMENT SUBSIDIARY WITHIN ALETHEA HOLDINGS, BUT I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING.

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WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE GDC, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE EXXONMOBIL OF THE 90S.

WHAT WE ARE WANTING TO DO IS BE ONE MORE STAKEHOLDER DEVELOPING FOR THE BENEFIT OF PALM BAY, ALONGSIDE A D.R.

HORTON OR A PULTE, OR A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPER OF YOUR CHOOSING.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT THE FOUNDATION TO FACILITATE THE VISION BOARD, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I'LL BE EXPLAINING NEXT WEEK.

I INTEND TO SLATE A FULL PRESENTATION FOR NEXT WEEK OF THE OLATHE IMPACT PLAN, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DID TO FACILITATE THIS PROCESS AND MAKE MY TEAM AND MYSELF FEEL VERY WELCOME.

I DID RAISE MY CHILDREN HERE IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

THEY HAVE SINCE GRADUATED AND I HAVE MOVED OVER TO MELBOURNE BEACH WHERE IT'S MUCH QUIETER.

BUT I DO INTEND TO BUILD EFFECTIVE 2025.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JEFF SHINE.

I LIVE AT 1378 ASHEBORO CIRCLE, SOUTHEAST.

I REALLY DIDN'T COME HERE THIS EVENING FOR THIS TOPIC, BUT JUST LISTENING TO WHAT'S GOING ON, I HAVE SOME SOME THOUGHTS.

IT'S IT SEEMS LIKE YOU WANT TO ATTRACT THE CONTRACTORS TO COME IN.

THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD.

THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD. IF YOU ATTRACT THEM OR NOT.

THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE MONEY ON US.

THEY'RE NOT BUILDING THE HOUSE OUT OF THE GENEROSITY OF THEIR HEARTS.

THEY'RE HERE TO MAKE A PROFIT.

THERE'S OTHER THINGS BESIDES PENALTIES THAT CAN BE PUT ON THESE DEVELOPERS.

OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, IF THEY'RE COMING IN AND PUTTING IN 1000 APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, LET THEM BUILD THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, LET THEM BUILD THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, LET THEM BUILD A JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

NOTHING WITHIN THIS PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE SEWERAGE.

NOTHING IN THIS PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE ELECTRIC.

WHERE IS FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT IN THIS CONVERSATION? FOR THEM TO SUPPLY THE POWER FOR ALL THIS BUILDING THAT WE'RE DOING, NOTHING IS THERE FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE.

YOU'RE BUILDING HIGH RESIDENTIAL UNITS WHERE MYSELF, AS A HOMEOWNER, WHEN I'M PAYING IN MY PROPERTY TAX TOWARDS THE PUBLIC SERVICES, YOU'RE TAKING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BUILD 20 HOMES, PUTTING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON.

IT'S HOLDING 100 FAMILIES.

THERE'S NO WAY THOSE HUNDRED FAMILIES ARE PAYING THE SAME EQUITABLE AMOUNT FOR THE PUBLIC SERVICE AS A HOMEOWNER PAYS ON HIS PROPERTY TAX.

YES, THEY'RE PAYING RENT, BUT THE PERSON THAT OWNS THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT PAYING HIS FAIR SHARE FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

YOU HAVE OPEN SPACES.

GREAT. WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? JUST BE TREES? WHY ARE WE, AS A COUNTY PARK SYSTEM, PAYING TO PUT THE PARK OR THE PLAYGROUND IN THERE? THE DEVELOPER IS DEVELOPING TO MAKE A PROFIT.

HE'S GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT.

AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO BE AFRAID OF THEM NOT COMING TO PALM BAY.

PALM BAY IS SUDDENLY BECOMING THE NEXT ORLANDO.

WE'RE OVER DEVELOPING.

OVER DEVELOPING. YOU CANNOT DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD.

LOOK AT ELLIS ROAD.

OUR GOVERNOR CUT THE BUDGET OFF TO TO WIDEN ELLIS ROAD.

TRY TO GO FROM NASA DOWN ELLIS TO GET ON TO I-95 AT 4:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.

IT'S BACKED UP ALL THE WAY BACK TO WICKHAM.

SO WE NEED TO DEVELOP.

WE'RE GOING TO DEVELOP, BUT THE CONTRACTORS ARE REALLY NOT OUR FRIENDS.

OUR CONTRACTORS ARE THERE TO BUILD, TO MAKE MONEY.

THEY CAN'T MAKE MONEY. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE.

SO LET THEM PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO WITH THEIR THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY, I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE THIS, I GUESS.

DO WE NEED A TIME? CERTAIN? YES.

YOU HAVE TO TABLE IT TO A DATE.

CERTAIN. OKAY.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

QUICK. QUICK QUESTION.

HAS LYNDA WEATHERMAN REACHED OUT ABOUT AUGUST 22ND, OR WE HAVEN'T PICKED BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING TILL TONIGHT.

WE HAVEN'T ADVERTISED ANY DATES YET.

FOR 22ND OR 29TH, I KNOW BOTH EDC AND THE CHAMBER.

WE DID REACH OUT TO THEM ON SOME PRIOR SOME PRIOR INTERACTION AND INVITED THEM SEPARATE OTHER MEETINGS WE INVITED THEM TO.

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BUT NO, NONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT TO YET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE SESSIONS.

AND IF WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WITH CERTAIN PARTIES, WE'RE OPEN TO DOING THAT TO, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER YOU TELL US ARE THE PRIORITIES.

WE'LL MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, 20 MINUTE CONVERSATION WITH THEM SEPARATELY TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.

WE CAN DO THAT THEN.

I'M FINE WITH THE 29TH THEN.

SO LET ME MAKE A MOTION FIRST BEFORE I START THE.

OKAY. YOU GUYS WANT ON THE MOTION? OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM TO AUGUST 29TH.

SO SECOND.

DID YOU WANT THE 22ND, SIR? I WOULD SUPPORT THE 22ND OVER THE 29.

THAT JUST CUT DOWN A LITTLE ON THE AMOUNT OF ON THE AMOUNT OF MEETINGS.

YEAH, WELL, YOU HAVE SOME GOING ON.

IS THAT NOT WORK FOR YOU? NO, I COULD DO EITHER ONE. THAT'S WHY I WAS.

YEAH. OKAY. I'M GOOD. 22ND IS GOOD IF YOU WANT.

OKAY. THEN YOU'RE MORE MY SECOND.

MR.. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

OKAY. OKAY.

IF YOU REMOVE YOUR SECOND, I WITHDRAW YOUR SECOND.

AND I'M IN MY MOTION TO THE 22ND OF AUGUST, NOT THE 29TH.

SECOND. OKAY.

GOT A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO AUGUST 22ND.

ONE MORE COMMENT, MAYOR.

BY BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

I WANT ALL OF US TO HAVE ALL BOOTS ON THE GROUND, AS YOU WOULD SAY WHEN IT COMES TO THE SPACE COAST SYMPOSIUM, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONTACTS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STATE, SPECIFICALLY US, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BLUE ORIGIN'S, THE SPACE-X, THE AMAZON WAREHOUSES.

THAT'S MORE OF A LINE OF WHERE WE ARE THE JOB CREATION, THE JOB, THE JOB CREATORS.

SO THAT'S JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A TAKE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE.

THE, YOU KNOW, THE THE TYPICAL STORIES WE SEE NOW, THEY'RE NOT WHERE IT'S AT.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE KIND OF TURN PALM BAY INTO OUR OWN VERSION OF A SILICON VALLEY IF WE CAN.

SO THAT'S MORE SO OF WHERE WE ARE.

I KNOW THAT'S VERY FORWARD THINKING, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES.

AND. YEAH.

AGREED. YEP.

YEAH. AGREED. RIGHT NOW.

AGREED. BUT THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE STAKEHOLDERS TO SEE.

HEY, WHAT IS IT YOUR YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE LOOKING FOR? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR ENTERTAINMENT? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR RESTAURANTS? ARE THEY LOOKING FOR TOWNHOMES OR ARE THEY LOOKING FOR MIXED USE? AND THEN WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER ON HOW EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY OR HOW EVERYBODY CAN BE ON THE SAME, YOU KNOW, PLAYING FIELD BECAUSE COMPROMISE.

NOBODY REALLY WALKS AWAY HAPPY.

SO BUT THAT'S IT.

MARAGH SO I THINK THE SPACE CODE SYMPOSIUM IS GONNA BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY CAPITALIZE, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR, ANYTHING TO ADD? NOTHING TO ADD, SIR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. AND THE SYMPOSIUM IS AUGUST 23RD.

YES, SIR. OKAY, SO PUT PUT US ALL DOWN, I GUESS.

OKAY. OH, NO, I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I DO.

I HAVE AN EYE. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

YES, I OKAY, SO PASSES FOUR ZERO.

THE DATE CERTAIN IS AUGUST 22ND.

WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WAS REFERRING TO IS THE SYMPOSIUM IS AUGUST 23RD.

THAT'S WHERE YOU HEARD THE 23RD.

SO JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO WHERE ARE WE NOW WITH TABLING? PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE AGENDA, RIGHT? THE WHOLE. WELL, DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TABLE THE ENTIRE THE REST OF THE AGENDA.

YOU CAN STILL PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. SECOND READING OF THOSE WILL BE DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE SECOND READING OF THE ADOPTION OF THE LDC.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN.

OKAY, SO SO WE CAN PROCEED FORWARD WITH WITH THE OTHER ITEMS. SO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

CORRECT. ONE AND TWO WERE WE DIDN'T DO ONE, WE DID TWO FIRST.

YEAH WE DID TWO FIRST.

AND WE CAN. WE CAN STILL I MEAN IT'S IT'S STILL JUST THE FIRST READING IN THIS FIRST READING HAS CONTINUED.

IT WON'T BE ADOPTED AND IT WON'T BE IMPLEMENTED UNTIL SECOND READING.

SO WE EITHER WE CAN BEGIN THOSE NOW AND THEN THEY WON'T BE ADOPTED UNTIL THE ADOPTION OF THE LDC.

OR IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THE REST OF THE ITEM, EVERYTHING ELSE, AND THEN HAVE IT HEARD WHEN WE WHEN WE HAVE IT AGAIN.

NOW THAT SO IS YOUR INTENTION THEN ON THE 22ND TO HAVE THESE COME BACK AT FIRST READING.

YES. AGAIN.

SO YEAH, BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A FIRST READING AT THAT POINT.

SO WELL AS THE REPEAL, THE OTHER ONES ARE RELATED TO THE LDC, BUT ONLY IN THAT THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT LAND DEVELOPMENT RELATED, THAT ARE BEING MOVED TO THE TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SO ITEMS THREE THROUGH THE REMAINDER ONES, YOU CAN PROCEED TO THOSE FIRST READING.

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BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AMENDMENTS AS IN THEY'RE GOING AWAY OR BEING CHANGED.

THEY'RE BEING SHIFTED FROM ONE SECTION OF THE CODE TO ANOTHER SECTION.

OKAY. SO THEN WE'RE GOING TO ITEM NUMBER THREE.

YOU CAN PROCEED TO TABLE ONE IF YOU WANT TO.

TABLE ONE WE NEED I NEED A MOTION OKAY I NEED A I NEED A MOTION TO TABLE.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

MOTION TO TABLE. ITEM NUMBER ONE TO AUGUST 22ND.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

SO ITEMS ONE AND TWO WERE TABLED TO AUGUST 22ND.

ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. OKAY.

ORDINANCE 20 2435, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 33 FIRE DEPARTMENT BY CREATING A NEW SUBCHAPTER, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EITHER ALISA OR JOAN TO COVER THE ITEM.

I APOLOGIZE, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ITEM WE'RE ON BECAUSE WE MENTIONED ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WELL, IT'S TECHNICALLY BUSINESS TO BUSINESS.

BUSINESS ONE. OH, APOLOGIES.

YES, YES. SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOOD. BUSINESS NUMBER I WAS THINKING THREE.

PUBLIC HEARING THREE. SO WE'RE ON BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.

[BUSINESS:]

YES. CORRECT. THREE.

SO THIS IS NO BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 35.

YES. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.

OKAY. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE THE CASE FOR ALL OF THE ITEMS UNDER BUSINESS ONE THROUGH NINE.

THESE ARE COMING OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AS THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND THEY WILL BE PLACED IN THOSE CHAPTERS AS REFERENCED WITHIN THE INDIVIDUAL ORDINANCES WITHIN THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SO IT WILL STILL REMAIN IN THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

IT'LL JUST COME OUT OF TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

OKAY. IS THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING BUSINESS ITEMS, ONE THROUGH NINE.

THEY'RE JUST RELOCATING.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

SHE'S LEAVING. SHE? OH, SHE LEAVING? SEEING NONE.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

GOT TO GET USED TO THAT, SIR.

YES, SIR. ANY DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. I'M GOOD. COUNCILMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS OR BUSINESS NUMBER ONE, 2 OR 2? NEW BUSINESS TWO ORDINANCE 20 2436 AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE SEVEN TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES. CHAPTER 74 STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING.

SUBCHAPTER PARKING REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS WILL BE THE SAME FOR ALL OF THEM.

SO IT'S JUST A SHIFTING OF EXISTING LANGUAGE INTO A NEW SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO STEP RIGHT UP, SIR.

GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A REAL REASON WHY I CAME THIS EVENING.

MY NAME IS JEFF SHINE.

I LIVE AT 1378 ASHEBORO CIRCLE.

NOW, IF YOU ALL HAVE. DON QUIXOTE FEELS JOUSTING, WINDMILLS, WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON HERE THIS EVENING? I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO VOICE MY OBJECTION TO THE PROPOSED PARKING OF VEHICLE RESIDENTIAL AREA RESTRICTION.

THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THERE.

MOST SPECIFICALLY, YOU WANT TO PROHIBIT MORE THAN TWO CARS TO BE PARKED IN A DRIVEWAY.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THE EXISTING CODE IS.

I FIND THIS RESTRICTION COMPLETELY UNWORKABLE.

I TOOK A DRIVE THROUGH MY NEIGHBORHOOD LAST NIGHT, AND FOUND MORE THAN HALF THE HOUSEHOLDS HAVE AT LEAST 3 TO 4 CARS IN THEIR DRIVEWAY, ALL LEGALLY TAGGED, ALL PARKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.

MOST HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE BOUGHT THESE HOUSES DON'T WANT TO LIVE IN AN HOA.

OUR DRIVEWAYS ARE DESIGNED TO HOLD FOUR CARS AS A LARGE MAJORITY.

THE MAJORITY OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE MORE THAN TWO DRIVERS LIVING IN THEIR HOUSE TRYING TO RESTRICT PARKING.

YOU'RE LEGALLY REGISTERED VEHICLE AND YOUR OWN DRIVEWAY MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

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FIRST OFF, HOW IS THIS A PROBLEM? IS THERE ANY DOCUMENTATION SHOWING EXTRAORDINARY NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ISSUES OF HAVING A THIRD OR FOURTH CAR IN YOUR DRIVEWAY? IT CERTAINLY DOES NOT HAVE A NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE VALUATION OF OUR HOMES.

I KNOW MY HOUSE IS MORE THAN DOUBLED IN VALUE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS.

IN FACT, A HOUSE NOT AN HOA IS A VERY ATTRACTIVE THING.

HAVE YOU GIVEN ANY CONSIDERATION TO WHERE ARE THESE RESTRICTED CARS GOING TO BE PARKED? ARE YOU HONESTLY THINKING PARKING YOUR VEHICLE IN THE GRASS BESIDE YOUR DRIVEWAY OR ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS A SOLUTION? BY TAKING TWO CARS OFF YOUR DRIVEWAY AND PARKING THEM ON YOUR GRASS.

AS MOST RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN PALM BAY DO NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS AND CURBS.

OUR DRIVEWAY IS THE ONLY PLACE WE CAN PARK A CAR.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALK.

NO ONE. YEAH, AS THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.

PEOPLE WALKING OR RIDING BICYCLES DO NOT CROSS OUR DRIVEWAY AS THEY WALK OR RIDE IN THE STREET.

NO VISION ISSUES ARE CREATED BY OUR VEHICLES PARKED.

THIS BILL HAS THE APPEARANCE OF TRYING TO OVERRIDE THE NEW STATE LAW AGAINST HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS PARKING RESTRICTIONS.

TO SUMMARIZE, MOST HOMEOWNERS HAVE MORE THAN TWO DRIVERS AND TWO CARS.

MANY EXTENDED FAMILIES ARE LIVING TOGETHER BECAUSE THE COST OF HOME OWNERSHIP.

THIS REGULATION WILL CREATE AN UNENFORCEABLE BURDEN ON OUR POLICE AND CODE ENFORCERS, AS IT'S AN UNMANAGEABLE SUGGESTION.

IT'S A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO RESTRICT THE FREEDOM OF GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PARK OUR CARS? TO WHAT END DOES THIS IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR CITIZENS? OUR CURRENT CODE, 93.044, MORE THAN ADDRESSES THE NEEDS TO CONTROL PARKING ON PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY.

LET THE CURRENT CODE STAND BY ITSELF.

JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN ENACT A RULE OF CODE DOESN'T MEAN YOU NEED TO.

PLEASE REASSESS THIS PROPOSAL AND WITHDRAW THAT WORDING IMMEDIATELY AS IT'S NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MADAM. SHERMAN.

YES, SIR. I'M. I'M GOING TO DEFER TO STAFF IN A SECOND, BUT I JUST PULLED UP OUR CURRENT REGULATION OF VEHICLES AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS ORDINANCE.

THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

AND 185.123 SAYS THAT PROHIBITED PARKED AND PROHIBITED PARKING SECTION ONE A IT SAYS A MAXIMUM OF TWO OPERABLE VEHICLES PER PROPERTY ARE PERMITTED TO BE PARKED ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY, OPPOSITE THE FRONT DOOR OF THE RESIDENCE.

I ONLY SAY THAT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS ITEM WE'RE CONSIDERING IS JUST A SHIFTING OF THE EXISTING LANGUAGE FROM ONE SECTION OF THE CODE TO ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CODE.

SO OUR LANGUAGE SAYS TWO CARS IN A DRIVEWAY.

PERHAPS YOU'D LIKE TO ELABORATE.

I'M SORRY, SIR.

WHEN I'M READING THIS, I BELIEVE THAT PERHAPS YOU HAVE MISINTERPRETED.

AND I WOULD LOVE TO SIT WITH YOU AND DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU.

BECAUSE WHEN IT SAYS THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD PUBLISHED ONLINE.

NO, I UNDERSTAND IT'S THE CODE THAT WE'VE WE'VE HAD.

IT HASN'T CHANGED. I'M GOING TO.

SO PERHAPS YOU AND I COULD SIT DOWN.

MAYBE TOMORROW OR SOMETHING.

I CAN, I CAN IT ACTUALLY SAYS THE VEHICLE SHALL NOT EXCEED TWO ON A SINGLE SIDE OR ON EACH SIDE, BUT IT'S TALKING ABOUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. IT'S NOT TALKING ABOUT IN THE DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE RESIDENTIAL PARKING, WHEN IT SAYS A MAXIMUM OF TWO VEHICLES ARE PERMITTED TO BE PARKED ON THE SIDES OF A RESIDENCE.

SO IT'S TALKING OUTSIDE OF THE OF THE DRIVEWAY.

AND WHAT YOU PUBLISHED, IT SAYS TWO OPERABLE VEHICLES CAN BE PARKED ON THE PAVED DRIVEWAY OR IT'S ADJACENT TO IT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU PUT IN THE NEW WORDING.

OKAY. IT DOES NOT SAY IN THE EXISTING RULE PAVED DRIVEWAY.

YOU ADDED THAT IN MEANING YOU'RE RESTRICTING THE PERSON.

ONLY TWO CARS IN YOUR DRIVEWAY.

I HOPE YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN PUBLISHED THAT I HAVEN'T THAT I'M LOOKING AT.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE AND I I'D LOVE TO TALK.

OKAY. YEAH. CAN WE JUST TALK THROUGH THAT FOR A SECOND? THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

RUTH CAULFIELD, 935 DOUGLAS STREET, SOUTHEAST.

HEARING THESE THINGS, THIS EQUALS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS NOW BECOMING THE HOA.

WHEN I MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO, EVERY PERSON THAT I ENCOUNTERED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN PALM BAY TOLD ME THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE CITY OF MOST REGULATIONS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

THAT IS CONCERNING TO ME THAT WE HAVEN'T CLEANED UP THE ORDINANCES.

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WE HAVEN'T CLEANED UP THESE OLD AND OUTDATED ORDINANCES THAT THAT OBVIOUSLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

BUT THIS IS CONCERNING ABOUT HAVING GETTING DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF HOW MANY CARS YOU HAVE IN YOUR DRIVEWAY OR HOW MANY CARS YOU CAN HAVE ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

I'M ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT SAYS IT SHOULD BE FLIPPED ON ITS HEAD.

I'M A PROPERTY OWNER.

THE CITY SHOULD PAY ME RENT FOR ANY EASEMENTS, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO ON MY PROPERTY.

SO TO CONTINUE THIS OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT ON PERSONAL PROPERTY IS OUTRAGEOUS.

SO. SO MAYBE WITH THIS LAND USE THING THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON HERE AS WELL, WE COULD ENTERTAIN GETTING RID OF SOME OF THESE OLD ORDINANCES THAT INTERFERE WITH PEOPLE'S PERSONAL PROPERTY, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT A REASONABLE PRICE OR A HOUSE AT A REASONABLE PRICE FOR ANYONE LIKE THE LADY THAT TALKED TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT HER DAUGHTER'S GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH HER UNTIL SHE'S 30 BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FIND A HOUSE, AND THEN THEY WANT TO HAVE THE GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH THAT HOUSE.

SO THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE, REALLY, AS FAR AS PALM BAY IS GETTING MORE OVERREACH INTO A PERSON'S PERSONAL PROPERTY.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

MA'AM, HAVE YOU SQUARED THIS AWAY? I'VE GOT. AND IT'S SO THERE HASN'T BEEN A CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE CODE.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SECTION 180 5.1 23.

IS THE ORIGINAL LANGUAGE.

THAT IS OUR CURRENT CODE THAT CURRENTLY APPLIES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND HAS BEEN IN EFFECT SINCE IT'S THE LAST AMENDMENT TO THIS WAS ORDINANCE 20 2379.

IT DERIVES ORIGINALLY FROM THE 1974 CODE.

SO THIS NEW SECTION, WHICH IS BEING RENUMBERED 7425, IS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY 185 POINT 123.

AND THE LANGUAGE IN THE CURRENT CODE AS IS CURRENTLY ENFORCED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IS THAT NO VEHICLE SHALL BE PARKED IN FRONT OF A RESIDENCE EXCEPT WITHIN THE PAVED DRIVEWAY.

THAT MEANS YOUR CARS CAN BE PARKED WITHIN THE PAVED DRIVEWAY.

THE PROHIBITION IS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN TWO OPERABLE VEHICLES ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.

MAINLY, YOU PARK THEM IN YOUR LAWN ON THE SIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY, OPPOSITE THE FRONT DOOR OF THE RESIDENCE.

ALSO, IT'S PROHIBITED TO HAVE THEM IN THE REAR YARD OF A RESIDENCE UNLESS THE REAR YARD IS ENCLOSED BY A SIX FOOT TALL OPAQUE FENCE, SO IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT MORE THAN TWO CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY. THE LANGUAGE IS WHILE I THE.

WE SHIFTED THE LANGUAGE, NOT CREATE NEW LANGUAGE.

SO IT CAN BE, IF YOU WISH FOR IT TO BE MORE ARTFULLY DRAFTED, CLEAR THAT THAT BASICALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS THAT YOU'RE PERMITTED TO PARK IF YOU CAN, IF YOU'VE GOT A DRIVEWAY THAT FITS EIGHT CARS, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE PERMITTED TO BE PARKED.

THE PROHIBITION IS INCREASING THE NUMBER OF CARS OUTSIDE OFF OF THAT DRIVEWAY, SO YOU DON'T TURN YOUR FRONT YARD INTO A PARKING LOT.

YOU HAVE SIX ON YOUR DRIVEWAY AND THREE IN THE IN THE GRASS.

BUT WHAT YOU HAD POSTED ONLINE, THAT'S THE VERBIAGE.

AND I HAVE A COPY. OKAY.

WELL THAT'S THE THE ORDINANCE.

THE LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE TO BE ADOPTED IS IS WHAT I, WHAT I READ WHICH WAS THE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT CAME FROM.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH.

SO WE'RE RIGHT NOW COUNCIL, IF YOU LIKE, FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REWRITE THIS AT, AT A AT A JUNCTION, OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THE WAY IT READS? BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR TO ME, BUT CARRY ON.

I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. I COULD, I COULD PARK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CARS ON MY DRIVEWAY.

IT'S JUST I'M LIMITED TO OUTSIDE OF THE DRIVEWAY.

YES, SIR. AND BEHIND THE.

SO THAT'S HOW I READ THEN.

SO MOVED. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AN I.

I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW OR BUSINESS NUMBER THREE.

ORDINANCE 20 2437.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE SEVEN TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES BY CREATING CHAPTER 75 GOLF CARTS PROVIDING

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FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

I THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS IS THE SECTION RELATED TO GOLF CARTS.

AGAIN, JUST MOVING IT FROM THE OLD SECTION TO THE NEW SECTION WITH NO CHANGES.

ANY DISCUSSION? COUNSEL? NO.

ANYONE WISH TO STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF? YOU KNOW, IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO CALL YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, I WOULD.

I WOULD HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT MASTER CHIEF.

CARRY ON. I'M VERY HAPPY.

YOU KNOW, I WAS WILLING TO DO IT, BUT I'M VERY HAPPY THAT I DON'T HAVE TO COPY THAT, SIR.

HI. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, I WAS TRYING TO FIND A MAP ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT SAID, WHERE WERE THE DESIGNATED GOLF CART COMMUNITIES? WHERE COULD I LEGALLY? BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT GETTING ONE.

AND I'M SAYING, WELL, WHERE CAN I LEGALLY DRIVE IT WITHOUT GETTING ARRESTED? BECAUSE THEN THEY'D SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT COUNCILMAN BATTING WITH A TICKET LAST NIGHT.

WE COULDN'T HAVE THAT.

I THINK IT'S AN ERROR.

SO AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IN VIERA.

CARRY ON, CARRY ON.

NO, I GOT A MOVE.

OKAY, SO. BUT I COULDN'T FIND A MAP ANYWHERE THAT SAID WHERE WHERE IT WOULD BE LEGAL.

BECAUSE AROUND ME, EVERYBODY JUST DRIVES ON THE STREETS BECAUSE THERE IS NO EIGHT FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS WHERE I LIVE.

IN FACT, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS WHERE I LIVE, SO DEFINITELY THERE SHOULD BE NO GOLF CARTS WHERE I LIVE, EVIDENTLY, BUT IT'S VERY POPULAR EVERYWHERE I SEE GOING DOWN TO BAYSIDE LAKES ALL AROUND THE GOLF COURSES.

BUT I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNATED GOLF CART COMMUNITIES.

SO I'M JUST I'M JUST CURIOUS.

I'M I THINK THEY'RE GREAT MACHINES, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT ROAD WORTHY AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY'S PUTTING THEM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S A THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

THIS DO WE HAVE WHERE ARE THEY? THIS THIS ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT FORTH BECAUSE OF EMERALD LAKE'S PLANNED DESIGN FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.

SO IT WAS CREATED FOR THEIR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THAT.

EVEN THOUGH WE DO KNOW PEOPLE RIDE AROUND IN THEIR GOLF CARTS AND PLACES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

OUR OUR SIDEWALKS, OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT ACTUALLY CURRENTLY DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THEM SAFELY.

SO WE DON'T ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RIDE AROUND LIKE ON EMERSON OR ALDRIN, BUT IT'S ILLEGAL.

CORRECT? YES, SIR.

AND I DO WANT TO ADD TO THAT, MA'AM, BECAUSE I APPRECIATED STAFF.

Y'ALL HAD LOOKED INTO IF IT COULD BE FOR AREAS LIKE BAYSIDE LAKES.

AND WHILE IT IS ILLEGAL, I KNOW THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN VERY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY BASED AND EDUCATING FOLKS AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKING THEM AWAY FROM THEIR GOLF CART. SO IT'S NOT IT'S NOT WHAT WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IT WAS BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS PROJECT, AS SHE SAID.

SO. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION.

MAYOR. YES.

IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING ON THIS IS.

YEAH. I'M LIKE YOU, BILL.

I SEE GOLF CARTS DRIVING ALL AROUND.

ALL OVER MY NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING SOME LITTLE KIDS WHO CAN BARELY REACH THE PEDALS.

BUT ANYWAY YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T REALLY OVERREGULATE THAT.

I MEAN, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, AS THE MAYOR SAID, CAN CAN HOPEFULLY EDUCATE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING AROUND IN THE GOLF CARTS.

BUT I THE PRIME THING OF THIS OF THIS ORDINANCE IS SAFETY ISSUES.

AND I THINK EFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSES SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES AND YOU KNOW BANNING THE GOLF CARTS FROM, FROM WHERE THEY'RE RIDING AROUND NOW WOULD BE ALMOST AN IMPOSSIBILITY.

BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, FOR THE SAFETY ISSUES, IT'S A GOOD THING.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

YOU'RE YOU'RE LEARNING.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON NEW OR BUSINESS NUMBER FOUR, MR. RODRIGUEZ, ORDINANCE 20 2438, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, BY CREATING CHAPTER 102, PUBLIC NUDITY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I CAN TAKE THIS ONE IF YOU WANT, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

WELL, I'LL TAKE IT, MR. MAYOR. THIS THIS IS JUST A KIND OF A HOUSEKEEPING CLEANUP.

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THIS LANGUAGE REALLY DEALT WITH BEHAVIORAL ASPECTS.

EXCEPT IT WAS INSIDE OF OUR ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CODE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO THIS THIS LAND, THE LANGUAGE IN THE EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH I CAN RELATE TO.

IT WAS IN ITS ONE IT WAS 173 .060 THROUGH.

I'LL GET THE NUMBERS.

YEAH, I SEE IT THROUGH 173 .999.

REALLY WAS NOT RELATED TO THE REGULATION OF THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY, BUT IS REALLY A ORDINANCE OF GENERAL APPLICABILITY TO THE CITY.

SO THEREFORE, WE HAVE REMOVED IT FROM THE ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CODE AND PLACED IT IN ITS OWN FREESTANDING CODE WITHIN THE THE GENERAL REGULATIONS OF THE CITY CODE.

THANK YOU. NONE OF THIS, NONE OF THE STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED.

IT'S ACTUALLY THINK OF IT AS A HUGE WORD PROCESSING CUT AND PASTE.

IT WAS JUST CUT FROM ONE SECTION AND PASTE IT IN ANOTHER SECTION.

AND AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE ESTABLISHMENT HERE IN, WITHIN OUR CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. BUT THIS IS UNRELATED TO ANY TO ANY ESTABLISHMENT THIS WOULD REGULATE.

SEE, IT WAS PLACED IN ADULT ENTERTAINMENT WHICH WHICH THAT REGULATES ADULT ENTERTAINMENT AS IS DEFINED BOTH IN OUR CODE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED IN MANY OTHER ADULT ENTERTAINMENT CODES. HOWEVER, THIS APPLIES TO REGULAR REALLY PUBLIC CONDUCT, SO THIS WOULD COVER SOMEONE RUNNING AROUND A PUBLIC PARK NUDE.

THAT'S NOT ADULT ENTERTAINMENT.

IT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A BEHAVIORAL REGULATION.

AND THEREFORE, IT'S MORE PROPER TO BE REMOVED FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE GENERAL REGULATIONS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD. TAKE THE BAIT.

DON'T TAKE THE BAIT. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AND I READ THIS THING FROM FROM BEGINNING TO END, AND I WAS LIKE, I WAS READING A NICE NOVEL.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I FEEL SORRY FOR THE POLICE OFFICER THAT HAS TO BREAK OUT THE TAPE MEASURE AND ACTUALLY DO THE MEASUREMENTS.

I FEEL SORRY FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THAT INDIVIDUAL NEEDS A PAY RAISE.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.

ORDER, ORDER! I WANT TO FOLLOW THAT. BUT, MA'AM, WAIT TILL YOU GET TO THE MIC, PLEASE.

YEAH, I WASN'T SURE I WANTED TO FOLLOW THAT.

RUTH CAULFIELD 935 DOUGLAS STREET.

PALM BAY. I'M GLAD YOU MOVED IT.

GIVEN THE TIMES WE'RE IN, THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAS DECIDED TO ALLOW PRIDE PARADES THAT HAVE PEOPLE WALKING DOWN THE STREET NUDE AND ALLOW IT.

SO I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE IT HERE IN PALM BAY THAT IT'S NO LONGER ALLOWED.

AND IT WELL, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN NO LONGER ALLOWED ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU JUST READ.

BUT I'M HOPING THAT A LOT OF THESE ORDINANCES WILL BE ENFORCED.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT HAVING TOO MANY LAWS IS THAT THEY NEVER GET ENFORCED, AND THEY'RE JUST INK ON PAPER AND THEY DO NOTHING.

SO I HOPE THAT THIS WILL BE ENFORCED IF SOME SORT OF BAD BEHAVIOR COMES TO PALM BAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. ORDINANCE 20 2439, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, BY CREATING CHAPTER 103 CLOSURE AND ABANDONMENT OF EASEMENTS AND DRAINAGE RIGHTS OF WAY.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR.

AGAIN, THIS IS A REMOVAL FROM ONE SECTION AND COPYING IT AND PASTING IT INTO ANOTHER SECTION.

THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

ORDINANCE 20 2440.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY CREATING TITLE TEN IMPACT FEES.

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CHAPTER 103 IMPACT FEES SUBCHAPTERS PARKS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES IMPACT FEES, AND WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP RIGHT UP, SIR.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IMPACT FEE IS.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT US, TO HELP US THROUGH SOME OF OUR HARD TIMES.

WHAT I DIDN'T SEE IN THE PACKAGE WAS THE FACT THAT HOW WE SET THE PRIORITY, WHAT IMPACT FEES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING.

AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHEN WE HAVE IMPACT FEE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT, $300 GOES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S THAT'S IT.

$600 GOES FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, BUT PARKS AND RECREATION GETS $1,300.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'VE SET THE WRONG PRIORITY.

SAFETY SHOULD BE THE HIGHER PRIORITY, AND RECREATION SHOULD BE THE LEAST PRIORITY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SAYING, OH, WELL, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT OUR SAFETY, OUR SAFETY, OUR SAFETY TO WHERE THE POINT YOU'RE ALMOST IMPOSING A TWO MIL ON THE TAXPAYERS FOR SAFETY.

BUT YOU'D PUT PARKS AND RECREATION AS A HIGHER PRIORITY OVER SAFETY.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS.

I DO SEE THE NEED FOR THE IMPACT FEES, BUT LET'S SEE IF WE CAN SET THE PRIORITY MORE FOR THE SAFETY INSTEAD OF THE ENTERTAINMENT.

PARKS. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MASTER CHIEF, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE JUST HAD IMPACT FEE STUDIES, AND WE'RE ABOUT TO CATCH UP TO THAT.

I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN.

YES, MAYOR, BECAUSE I WANTED IF MISS SHERMAN CAN CLARIFY WITH PARKS IMPACT FEE, THEY CAN ONLY BE COLLECTED RESIDENTIALLY, CORRECT? OR. YES.

SO, LIKE MULTIFAMILY, I BELIEVE THEY DO AS WELL.

RIGHT. SO YEAH. ANY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY? YEAH. BUT NOT COMMERCIAL.

OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. WILL THAT AVAILABLE TO US THAT STUDY? WHAT? WHAT? SHE'S ALREADY SPOKEN, BUT.

YES, MA'AM. SO SO WE WE'RE ACTUALLY NEXT WEEK AT THE TUESDAY COUNCIL MEETING.

BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, I'LL BE BRINGING BACK A DISCUSSION ON THE IMPACT FEES.

THE FEBRUARY 1ST COUNCIL MEETING IS WHEN THE PRESENTATION WAS WAS MADE BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THE UPDATES TO THE POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES.

PARKS IMPACT FEES WERE NOT UPDATED AT THE TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A PLANNED PARKS MASTER PLAN THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD TO GIVE MORE DATA THAT GOES INTO THAT.

IF I CAN BRIEFLY ANSWER MR. BARTON'S QUESTION, THE 2018 STUDY THAT WAS LAST DONE FOR PARKS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES, MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN THE CONSULTANT LOOKED AT IT AND TALKED TO US ABOUT IT, IS THAT THE THE DATA THAT STAFF GAVE BACK THEN IN 2018 ON THE NEEDS FOR THE PARKS WAS FAR GREATER THAN THE NEEDS THAT WERE WRITTEN DOWN BY THE STAFF AT THAT TIME FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE.

AND SO THAT IS WHAT MADE THE INEQUITY IN OUR SYSTEM SO THAT THE PARKS LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A GREATER NEED.

WE HAVE WE HAVE SINCE OBVIOUSLY PROVIDED MUCH GREATER DETAIL AND DATA ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO THE NUMBERS ARE STARTING TO KIND OF SHIFT.

AND ON THE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES, WHICH WAS THE OTHER ONE, THOSE WERE ALSO STUDIED AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL JULY 18TH.

SO THE CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL NEXT WEEK WILL BE THE RESULTS OF THOSE STUDIES ON TRANSPORTATION, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES AND THE RATES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED TO INCREASE BY THE CONSULTANTS TO DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO.

YES. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. I'M SORRY, SIR.

I JUST REALIZED THERE WAS SOMETHING ON THIS ONE I ACTUALLY NEEDED TO COVER ON THE IMPACT FEES.

IT WAS A CHANGE.

SO THIS ONE IS NOT A COMPLETE COPY AND PASTE.

I MEANT TO SAY THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

THE CHANGE TO THIS IS AN ADDITION OF A GOVERNMENT PROPERTIES DEFINITION AND A SECTION THAT SAYS NO POLICE, PARK OR FIRE IMPACT FEE SHALL BE IMPOSED, CHARGED OR ASSESSED ON GOVERNMENT PROPERTY.

AND THAT IS BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY, AND WE'RE MOSTLY LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE OF CITY PROPERTIES.

WHEN WE START TO DEVELOP AND BUILD FIRE STATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL FOR US TO THEN PAY OURSELVES FIRE IMPACT FEES.

IT'S ALL GOING BASICALLY INTO THE SAME.

SO WE WERE ASKING TO EXEMPT GOVERNMENT PROPERTIES.

IT'S SOMETHING LIKE BREVARD COUNTY HAS DONE FOR A LOT OF YEARS.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'S A REQUEST THAT WAS ADDED.

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THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE TO THIS ORDINANCE.

THAT MEANS IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS TO COME IN, CORRECT? YES. AND WE'VE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT.

I MEAN, THAT CAN ALSO BE CONSIDERED IF YOU WANT TO RECRUIT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY TO COME HERE.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S DEFINITELY AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO DEVELOP.

NOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY TAXES ANYWAY.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

LIKE THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERAN AFFAIRS.

YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT BECAUSE I KNOW OVER ON IN BAYSIDE LAKES, IT WAS THE CLERK OF COURTS WAS EXPANDING.

YES. YEAH. WE WENT THROUGH SOME ISSUES.

THAT'S AN EXAMPLE. YEAH.

THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY SO THAT.

YEAH. YOU FOLLOW ME.

SO ARE WE REFERRING TO THE NEXT DOOR TO STORAGE THAT WE APPROVED? SHOULD THE CLERK OF COURT WANTING TO EXPAND A NEW BUILDING, BUILDING COURT IN OUR COMMUNITY, THAT WOULD BE AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I MEAN THAT THEY WEREN'T.

THEY WEREN'T. I'M JUST SAYING THAT HILLARY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A COURTHOUSE, BUT IT DIDN'T.

I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT, GREAT SPOT.

OKAY. BECAUSE. SO YEAH, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECOND AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN MR. RODRIGUEZ. ORDINANCE 20 2441.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 201 SEWER USE.

SUBCHAPTER PRIVATE LIFT STATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS RELATED TO EMERGENCY POWER AND PUMPING EQUIPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MULTIPLE MULTIPLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS AGAIN A COPY AND PASTE.

NO CHANGES TO THIS ONE.

IT'S ABOUT PRIVATE LIFT STATION POWER.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

ORDINANCE 20 2442.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING CHAPTER 204 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSE.

I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NINE.

ORDINANCE 20 2443, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING CHAPTER 205 WATER SHORTAGE EMERGENCY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD SIR.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS IS THE ONE ORDINANCE THAT I HAVE THE MOST UNAPPRECIATIVE OF.

I COULD HAVE WHEN I HAVE THINGS LIKE THE EPA STORMWATER MANAGEMENT STUFF DICTATING WHICH ARE NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS DICTATING ON WHAT I HAVE TO DO IN MY LIFE.

IT KIND OF BOTHERS ME GREATLY BECAUSE THEY'RE NON-ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE DICTATING WHAT I HAVE TO DO AND HOW I HAVE TO LIVE, BUT I DON'T GET A VOTE THEM IN OR OUT OF OFFICE, BUT THEY HAVE A MASSIVE IMPACT ON ME THAT REVERTS RIGHT BACK TO THE CHEVRON RULING.

IF I HAVE THESE OUTSIDE AGENCIES TELLING ME HOW I HAVE TO LIVE.

CAN I NOW START CHARGING? SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN NOW START SAYING BECAUSE OF THE CHEVRON RULING, IF I CAN NOW START CONTESTING SOME STUFF LIKE THIS.

THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE'RE HAVING ALREADY RUNNING INTO WATER SHORTAGES AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEN WHY ARE WE EXPANDING THE GROWTH? BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE THE GROWTH CAPABILITY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE WATER SUPPLY TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE BRINGING INTO THE CITY.

IT'S KIND OF DETRIMENTAL.

SO WE CAN'T BECAUSE WE CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT THE WATER.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WATER, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE THE GROWTH.

SO IF WE CAN'T DO IF WE CAN'T INCREASE THE GROWTH, I MEAN, TO MAINTAIN IT, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO STOP IT AND LET THE FACT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE WATER SUPPLY TO SUPPORT THE

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LIFESTYLE, THEN THAT SHOULD BE THE REGULATING CRITERIA.

THE OTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS IS WE THEN TAKE THE WATER FROM THE WATER, SEWAGE, WATER TREATMENT PLANTS AND ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GET RECLAIMED GETS PUMPED DOWN A DEEP WELL WHERE IT CANNOT BE USED.

AND WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS OF GALLONS A DAY.

YET YOU'RE GOING TO REGULATE ME FROM AN EPA OR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

I HAVE GREAT CONFLICT WITH THIS.

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE IT.

I'M JUST AGAINST IT.

AND SO IF I HAVE A CHANCE TO GET YOU TO TAKE THAT OFF THE BOOKS, THEN I WOULD.

I WOULD TRY TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, MA'AM? OKAY. COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WELL, I'VE ALWAYS.

I FELT LIKE OUR STAFF AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM.

THEY CAN SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE ISSUES WITH THE EPA OR EVEN JUST GETTING THINGS DONE.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE BAYFRONT AREA OR JUST WATER OUR WATERFRONT AREA.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU, BILL, ON THIS ONE IS I GUESS IT MIGHT BE MORE FOR OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.

IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO KIND OF.

YEAH, HONE IT IN LIKE YOU HINTED TOWARDS HOME RULE EARLIER.

IN REGARDS TO THE STATE LEVEL AND OF COURSE THE STATE PUT THIS IN PLACE.

SO YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A BROAD ASK AT THIS POINT.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT NECESSARILY WANT TO GET INTO NOW I CAN LOOK FURTHER INTO IT OKAY.

AND WE CAN ALWAYS AMEND THIS AT A LATER DATE.

SO ALL RIGHT GENTLEMEN.

WE ARE WE WE ALREADY HAVE.

I UNDERSTAND WE ARE.

IT'S. WE ALREADY.

I'M SORRY, SIR. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO ANYTHING ELSE, MISS SHERMAN OR.

I WAS JUST GOING TO JUST MAKE SURE SO EVERYONE KNOWS.

I'M SURE MR. BATTEN IS AWARE I.

THIS ORDINANCE WAS ACTUALLY FIRST ADOPTED IN 1981.

WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED IT SINCE THEN.

SO THIS LANGUAGE IS ACTUALLY THE 1981 LANGUAGE THAT JUST MOVING FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE INTO THIS NEW NUMBERED SECTION.

YOU KNOW, THE APPLICABILITY OF IT IS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY COULD LOOK INTO BECAUSE WE, WE JUST COPIED AND PASTED AGAIN.

WE DIDN'T TOUCH IT. YES, MA'AM.

OKAY, OKAY. MAYBE MAYBE INSTEAD OF THAT, WE'LL HAVE MR. RODRIGUEZ LOOK AT THIS.

AS WHAT? WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO DIRECT STAFF, YOU WANT TO DIRECT ME TO LOOK AT IT.

WE CAN. WE CAN SPEAK FURTHER AND WE CAN LOOK AT I CAN LOOK INTO WHAT WE WHAT WE CAN DO, WHAT WHAT RIGHTS AS A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, WE DO HAVE WITHOUT ACTUALLY OVERSTEPPING OUR BOUNDS INTO AN AREA THAT MAY HAVE BEEN PREEMPTED BY EITHER THE STATE OR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WELL, IT'S SINCE 1981.

A LOT'S CHANGED. SO HOPEFULLY YOU COULD CULTIVATE SOMETHING THERE, MR. RODRIGUEZ. SO HOW WOULD YOU WANT THAT? WE JUST MOVE FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO THAT OR.

WELL, IF YOU'RE.

I MEAN, YOU'VE SAID IT HERE.

YOU'RE DIRECTING ME AS SUCH.

I CAN I CAN LOOK INTO THAT.

WE CAN WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.

OKAY. SO YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION.

NO. OKAY.

SO THAT THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING.

THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.

DID WE VOTE ON THE WE WE VOTED ON THE I THOUGHT I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD TO VOTE.

I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU DID.

NO, NO, NO, WE DIDN'T VOTE ON ACTUALLY THE ORDINANCE.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY.

SO VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE.

AND THEN GOING FORWARD YOU'LL LOOK INTO IT AND BRING IT BACK TO US.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO MOVED.

I NEED A MOTION.

SECOND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.