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ALL RIGHT. WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00.
THIS IS THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING.
HERE AT THE ON THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
CHAMBERS. AND CAN WE GO AHEAD AND DO A CALL TO ORDER OR NOT? A CALL TO ORDER A ROLL CALL.
SUSAN PHILLIPS. HARDISON, PRESENT.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN LET'S SEE.SO GO AHEAD AND DO ADOPTION OF MINUTES.
AND WE'LL START WITH MAY IF I HAVE A MOTION OF ADOPTION OR APPROVAL.
I THINK IT WAS IN MAY WHERE IT SAID THAT SOMEBODY WAS GOING TO COME FROM THE NEW BUILDING TO SHARE WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR LID IS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT, OR MAYBE YOU'LL BE SPEAKING TO THAT.
THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND SOMETHING COME UP LAST MINUTE.
I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.
AND I VOTE I. SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
NOW WE'RE ON THE JUNE 26TH, 2024 MEETING MINUTES FOR APPROVAL.
BEEN A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL RIGHT.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE JUNE MINUTES.
AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AND I VOTE AYE.
AWESOME. AND I FAILED TO DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
SO IF Y'ALL CAN JOIN ME AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I ALWAYS LIKE DOING THAT. BUT WE GET GET GOING AND FORGET.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, SO NEXT WE HAVE LET'S SEE HERE.
PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE'S ANY COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL MOVE INTO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.
[NEW BUSINESS]
SO NEW BUSINESS INTRODUCTION OF THE NEW PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.CHRISTINE SULLIVAN, ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH YOU FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, CARRIE, MYSELF AND ASHLEY.
AND WE'RE MOVING THIS OVER TO THE OPERATIONS DIVISION, WHICH WILL BE NAGDCA.
SO THEY'LL BE ADMINISTERING YOUR YOUR MEETINGS FROM NOW ON.
THEY'LL BE HERE EVERY MONTH FOR YOU.
SO JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE NEW FACES AND THOSE NEW NAMES IN YOUR EMAILS.
WE'LL MISS SEEING YOU. ARE YOU STILL GOING TO BE COMING BY OCCASIONALLY.
ALL RIGHT. I THINK I MIGHT SEE YOU ON ANOTHER BOARD, TOO.
AWESOME. THE SECOND LINE OF BUSINESS.
SO MR. SMITH LOOKS LIKE HE SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO CONSIDERATION OF SELECTING A VICE CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE TO WAIT? IS THAT WE CAN GO AND MAKE A MOTION FOR VICE CHAIR OR HAVE TO WAIT? YEAH. SO IF THERE IS A MOTION TO OPEN, NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR WOULD ENTERTAIN THAT.
YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, MOVING TO OPEN NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND TO OPEN.
OPEN THE FLOOR FOR NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS OR ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO FILL THAT VACANCY? ROUGH CROWD. CAN I ASK, IS THERE ANY DESCRIPTION FOR VICE CHAIR? OR IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL.
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I THINK THAT PRETTY MUCH HEY, IF THERE'S ANY I MEAN, SOME OF THE EVENTS WE DO MORE COMMUNITY STYLE EVENTS.SO KIND OF BEING A MAYBE THE FACE OF IT OR IF THERE'S LIKE SPECIAL MEETINGS OR THAT KIND OF STUFF WHICH ANY MEMBERS TWO LADIES TO MY LEFT WENT TO THE TWO. NO, WAIT, IT WAS BOTH OF Y'ALL THAT WENT TO THE THAT COMMITTEE.
OH, OKAY. WE'LL REPORT SHORTLY.
I'D LIKE TO TALK TO REBECCA DOWN THERE BECAUSE SHE HAS SERVED THE LONGEST.
AND I THINK SHE BRINGS SOME HISTORICAL AND PERSPECTIVE THAT IS DIFFERENT.
YEAH. IS THAT A NOMINATION? YES. IF SHE'LL ACCEPT IT, I NOMINATE REBECCA.
DO YOU ACCEPT? I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME VERY BUSY AND MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE.
I'LL TAKE IT IF I'LL ACCEPT IT IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO STEP UP.
YEAH. IS THERE ANY OTHER? I'D SAY THAT'S A YES.
OKAY. IF NO OTHER NOMINATIONS, I'LL SAY TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE FLOOR.
ALL RIGHT. SO NOMINATIONS ARE CLOSED.
I THINK DO WE STILL NEED TO TAKE A VOTE OR JUST WITH NO OBJECTION? MISS ZIEGLER WILL BE THE ELECTED VICE CHAIR FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
YES. NOW YOU HAVE TO GIVE A SPEECH.
JUST KIDDING. CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU. SO NOW, NUMBER THREE FOR NEW OR NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSING THE FUTURE BY OUR CITY MANAGER.
OKAY. SOUNDS VERY CRYPTIC WHEN YOU PUT IT THAT WAY, DOESN'T IT? SO, YEAH, IT'S BEEN A FEW, A FEW MONTHS FOR SURE, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
WANTED TO COME BY AND VISIT AND AND KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHERE YOU ALL ARE AT.
I KNOW STAFF HAS KEPT ME UP TO SPEED ON YOUR EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES AND THINGS.
BUT I WANTED TO START WITH REALLY KIND OF GOING BACK TO.
AND SO I WANTED TO START BY JUST SORT OF USING THIS AS A MOMENT FOR ME, COMING TO YOU TO HAVE A RESET MOMENT AND DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT PART OF YOUR MISSION AND YOUR PURPOSE, AND ABOUT WHAT WE CAN BE DOING WITH THE ACTION PLAN AND WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BASED ON YOU KNOW, THE CORE PURPOSE AND MISSION OF THE BOARD.
SO IS THERE A WAY YOU CAN ZOOM THAT IN AT ALL? A LITTLE BIT, CARRIE.
CAN YOU GUYS READ THAT OR YOU NEED IT TO BE BIGGER? I SQUINT, SQUINT, CAN YOU JUST.
YEAH, WE'LL ZOOM A LITTLE ON THE SCREEN, TOO, I THINK.
SO THE BOARD SHALL IDENTIFY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING AFFORDABLE STRATEGIES ASSOCIATED WITH CONSERVATION, RENEWABLE ENERGY AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
PROVIDE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON ACTIVITIES AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN.
SO IT'S A VERY BROAD SCOPE THAT THEY GAVE THE BOARD WHEN YOU ALL WERE FIRST CREATED.
FOR THOSE THAT DON'T I'M SORRY, I WAS MORE.
THAT'S THE CORE. THERE'S THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE ACTUAL THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THE BOARD, IF YOU WANTED TO READ IT, IT'S ORDINANCE 52 .345 IS ONE OF THE, THE SECTIONS, BUT THE THE GIST OF IT IS THE, THE TIME THAT THE BOARD WAS CREATED.
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WHEN I FIRST CAME BACK TO THE CITY IN 2019, WE STRUGGLED WITH QUORUM.IT WAS IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT JOURNEY.
IT TOOK US TO TRULY FINALLY GET ENOUGH PEOPLE FILLING THE SPOTS, PEOPLE WHO ARE READY TO WORK AND AND ALSO THE BOARD HAD ONLY BEEN CREATED A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE THAT TIME, AND SO THE BOARD HAD REALLY NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING.
SO WHEN WE FINALLY GOT QUORUM, WE WERE VERY EXCITED.
AND THE FIRST THING WE STARTED WORKING ON, IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY, IS WE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH FLORIDA TECH AND THEY HAD SOME INTERNS WHO HELPED US, AND WE CREATED THE FIRST SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, AND WE TOOK THAT TO COUNCIL AS A PRESENTATION.
BACK THEN THE BOARD CHAIR WAS LESLIE BIRD.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER HER, RIGHT.
SO SHE DID THE PRESENTATION BEFORE COUNCIL.
THAT WAS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
LIKE WE DRAFTED IT AS BEST WE COULD AND THEN WE'RE READY TO GO.
BUT THEN WE NEVER DID ANY IMPLEMENTATION ON IT.
AND AND WE ALSO SO THAT WAS 2021.
WE'RE ABOUT THREE YEARS LATER.
RIGHT. AND WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WITH THE PLAN.
WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT. WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE HAVEN'T PRIORITIZED ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IN THERE.
AND PART OF THE THE VISION, THE LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO WAS THAT WE WOULD GET THAT WE'D GET THAT SET AND THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO IT AND START WORKING THE PLAN.
WE'VE HAD BOARD MEMBERS CHANGE OUT, OBVIOUSLY.
AND SO PART OF MY REASON FOR BEING HERE TODAY IS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENGAGE WITH YOU AT AT A LEVEL THAT SUPPORTS YOU, THAT HELPS YOU ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS, THAT ARE PART OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE CREATED YOU ALL TO DO? YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT ABOUT IS A SIMPLE PLACE TO START, BUT OBVIOUSLY THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A DIALOG.
ONCE I FINISH MY MY LONG WINDED SPEECH WE CAN TAKE A SECTION, YOU KNOW, THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN IF YOU IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT, IT HAS SECTIONS, TOPICAL SECTIONS. SO WE COULD TAKE ONE.
YOU ALL WOULD PICK ONE AND WE COULD START ACTUALLY DIGGING INTO IT BECAUSE THREE YEARS LATER, SOME OF THE THINGS IN THERE THAT WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ACHIEVABLE. THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE.
THAT WOULD BE GOOD NEWS IF WE SEE THOSE.
BUT YOU'RE A YOU'RE A DIFFERENT BOARD.
THE MAJORITY OF YOU ARE DIFFERENT.
SO YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON WHAT WE SHOULD ACCOMPLISH AND PRIORITIZE.
AND IT CAN BE IT CAN BE DIFFICULT FOR BOARDS IF WE NEVER BRING YOU ANYTHING THAT HELPS FORMALIZE AND PROVIDE A FOUNDATION FOR YOUR WORK, AND THEN YOU'RE LEFT GRASPING AT WHAT COULD I DO? WHAT SHOULD I DO? YOU KNOW, AND IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A, YOU KNOW, A PATH FORWARD THAT'S MORE MEANINGFUL AND RESULTS IN SOMETHING.
SORRY. OH YEAH. THAT'S A THAT'S ANOTHER TASK.
SORRY. WE SHOULD HAVE SHOULD HAVE WARNED YOU, REBECCA.
BUT WE WOULD DO THAT. WE WOULD HELP YOU, OF COURSE.
I MEAN, WHEN WE GET TO THAT STAGE, WE'RE NOT READY RIGHT NOW, RIGHT.
WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET EITHER.
AND IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PLAN AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PUSH SOMETHING FORWARD FOR THE CITY YOU KNOW, YOUR BOARD IS IS GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO BE THAT BOARD, TO GIVE THAT MOMENTUM AND THAT PUSH TO DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND I ALSO RECALL MY LAST COMMENT THE LAST TIME WE WERE REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WAS WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES OF THE BOARD IN TERMS OF THINGS THAT ULTIMATELY NEED FUNDING? BECAUSE FUNDING IS A BIG DEAL ON ALL OF THIS, RIGHT? WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING EVERY YEAR.
WE KNOW THAT WE CAN'T DO IT ALL.
WE KNOW THAT. BUT WE COULD PICK THINGS.
AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE TACKLE NEW THINGS.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF THE THE VISION.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT TO FILL A COUPLE SPOTS, I KNOW, SO WE'LL WORK ON THAT TOO.
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WE SHOULD DO THAT NEXT MEETING AND THEN, LIKE YOU SAID, PICK OUT A SECTION AND START TO WORK ON GOAL SETTING.AND I THINK THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START.
YOU ALL DO YOU ALL HAVE IT OR NEED IT EMAILED TO YOU OR IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND IT'S ON THE WEBSITE.
WHAT'S THE I LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE THEN WE CAN REALLY TUNE IN OR THINK WHICH ONES WE THINK ARE MORE IMPORTANT OR MORE INVESTED IN INDIVIDUALLY AND COME TOGETHER AS A BOARD WITH THAT. THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT, SO THAT REALLY CATCHES MY EYE.
SELLING INSURANCE AND WORKING WITH LIKE FLOOD INSURANCE AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WHAT EXACTLY CAN WE DO WITH THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT AS WELL? AS WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF FLOODING WITH RECENT STORMS AND HEAVY RAIN AND THAT KIND OF DEAL GOING ON.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE TOGETHER.
THEY'RE KIND OF MORPHING INTO RESPONSIBILITIES IN THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENTS.
WE HAVE ANNUAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO REPORT ON REGARDING FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT.
BUT THERE'S THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC WORKS COMPONENT AS WELL.
BUT IF YOU PICKED A TOPIC LIKE THAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON, WE COULD BRING YOU ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE DO CURRENTLY, AND WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH? YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ELEMENT FOR ME WITH FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT ALSO TIES INTO RESILIENCY, YOU KNOW.
AND SO WE WE THE CITY HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, SOME EFFORTS THROUGH THE EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL TO YOU KNOW, WE'VE RECEIVED GRANT FUNDING ESSENTIALLY TO DO SOME RESILIENCY STUDIES AND RESILIENCY WORK, WHICH HAS BEEN GOOD.
BUT THAT'S A LONG ANSWER TO A QUESTION.
IT WOULD REALLY BE, LET'S DEFINE WHAT WE DO.
AND THEN WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE US WORK ON.
THAT TO ME IS A SECTION THAT KIND OF OPENS IT UP TO WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO WORK ON.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT RECYCLING BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AND HAVING FACILITIES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECYCLING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S BEEN NO RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING, ERIC.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD ON, I FROM READING THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN, IT IT DOES REFERENCE STUFF LIKE READING THE CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, AND MAYBE UPDATING CURRENT PROCESSES AND HOW THE FLOODPLAINS ARE BEING MANAGED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A STARTING POINT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON UPDATING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SO THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES IN THERE, SOME OF WHICH I BELIEVE TIED TO THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE IN THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN BEFORE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT 100%, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, SOME CONNECTION POINTS.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON BECAUSE THOSE CHANGES ARE COMING THAT THE PLAN PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AGAIN TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHANGING THINGS LIKE IN THE TREE PRESERVATION SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE, FOR EXAMPLE.
SO WELL THAT ANY OF THAT INFORMATION BE INCLUDED IN THE SPECIAL MEETING.
YEAH. AND IT'S A LOT TO GO THROUGH ON THAT AGENDA.
IF YOU IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT LIKE HOW MANY ATTACHMENTS THERE ARE, THERE'S A LOT.
WE DID TRY TO PUT SOME LIKE SUMMARY DOCUMENTS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE THERE'S THERE'S PROBABLY 15 PLUS AGENDA ATTACHMENTS.
THE VERY LAST ONE SAYS SUMMARY.
I WOULD LOOK AT I WOULD LOOK AT THAT ONE.
AND IT HELPS YOU DIVE IN A LITTLE EASIER.
THERE SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF PUBLIC INTEREST IN THAT TOO.
IT'S FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
SOME IT'S RESIDENTIAL, JUST LIKE I'M AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON LIVING IN THE CITY.
I'M CONCERNED. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, EXPRESSING THEIR THOUGHTS ON THINGS.
SO IT'S IT'S BEEN AND WE HAD THOSE, THOSE THREE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SESSIONS.
I KNOW, SUSAN, I KNOW YOU WERE AT ALL THREE, I BELIEVE I HEARD WAY TO GO.
BUT YEAH, WE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK THERE.
AND SOME THINGS WERE CHANGES WE MADE BECAUSE SOMEONE POINTED OUT AN ERROR OR CONCERNS.
AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE JUST POLICY DECISIONS FOR COUNCIL.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION BACK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.
HOW HAS THAT BEEN SHARED WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? ARE THEY AWARE OF IT? I WOULD SAY THREE YEARS LATER, THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT AWARE OF IT.
YOU KNOW, SOME MIGHT REMEMBER THAT IT WAS DONE BECAUSE IT WENT TO COUNCIL.
THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ATTEND THOSE MEETINGS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE AWARE OF WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
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BUT UNTIL WE PICK A SECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON THAT AFFECTS A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT OR DEPARTMENTS, THEIR LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENT WOULD JUST BE MORE OF LIKE AN AWARENESS LEVEL. AND THAT'S PROBABLY IT.OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'RE KIND OF STARTING FROM GROUND ZERO THERE I THINK SO, YEAH.
YEAH. ACTUALLY THE SUSTAINABILITY NOBILITY.
THAT WAS THE EDUCATION SECTION OF THE PLAN, WHICH WAS THE FINAL CHAPTER.
THE BOARD DECIDED TO HAVE ITS FIRST SUSTAINABILITY FAIR AS THE FIRST ACTION ITEM, BUT THERE'S PLENTY MORE TO BE DONE.
TO BE DONE? YES. GOOD. I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT.
YOU'RE RIGHT. SUSAN. THANK YOU.
YEAH. I REMEMBER AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A HANDOUT THAT HAD WHAT THE CITY HAD ACCOMPLISHED AND HOW FAR ALONG THEY WERE.
IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY HEARTENING TO KNOW THAT THE IT WAS ONGOING WITH THE CITY ENGAGING IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT, EVEN, YOU KNOW, UNSUPPORTED BY THE BOARD, BUT IT WOULD CERTAINLY BE GOOD TO HAVE THE BOARD LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHAT OUR AMBITIONS WERE OR ARE.
COOL. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? SO I THINK KIND OF REVIEW ON.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING UNIQUE.
I THINK ON THE DIFFERENT BOARDS I SERVE ON TWO OTHER PARKS AND REC AND INFRASTRUCTURE OVERSIGHT AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T GET STAGNANT, BUT WHERE IT'S LIKE, HOW CAN WE HELP MORE TYPE THING TO WHERE IT SAYS ADVISORY BOARD.
HOW DO WE ADVISE COUNCIL THAT KIND OF STUFF? SO I THINK HAVING INFORMATION LIKE THAT TO WHERE IT'S KIND OF MAYBE LOOK AT ORDINANCES AND BE LIKE, OKAY, HOW COULD WE MAKE THIS BETTER AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS TO COUNCIL BECAUSE THEN THEY SEE, OKAY, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THESE ORDINANCES AND THEY'RE HAVING OUR BACKS OF LOOKING UP AND THAT KIND OF A SAFETY NET SYSTEM AND CITIZEN INPUT.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO START MAYBE DOING STUFF LIKE THAT, TO GIVE SUGGESTIONS TO COUNCIL OF ORDINANCES THAT ARE THERE AND IMPROVE THEM, OR KIND OF WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM TYPE DEAL THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.
DID THEY DID THEY UPDATE THE GIS LINK FOR THE FLOODING, THE FLOOD ZONES? I HAVEN'T CHECKED IT RECENTLY, BUT I THINK A YEAR AGO IT WAS A IT WASN'T THE MOST RECENT.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE CAN CHECK.
SO SOME OF THE I THINK EVERYTHING'S ALL THE KINKS ARE GETTING FIXED.
OH, BUT YOUR STAFF IS EXCELLENT.
I WAS TRYING TO FIND A PERMIT, AND THEY'RE LIKE, GO TO THIS LINK.
JUST TYPE THIS ONE IN. THIS ONE'S NOT WORKING YET, BUT GOOD.
YEAH. NO, IT'S VERY EASY TO TO CALL AND GET HELP.
OKAY, COOL. I ALSO SAW THE NEW WEBSITE AND I LOVE IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THERE FOR THE FUTURE? ANY IDEAS? WELL, CAN WE JUST CAN WE ADD THAT TO OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT MEETING TO REVIEW THE THE PLAN? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD CALL.
AND SO THE THE WE'LL HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE STAFF CAN ADD ON.
START PUTTING TOGETHER A LIST OF THINGS WE KNOW WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT ARE RELATED TO THE PLAN.
WE CAN DO THAT. BUT YES, THE THE GOAL.
I THINK AS YOU READ THE PLAN, WHICH IS NOT TOO LONG, WHICH IS GOOD, WOULD BE TO COME MAYBE TO DISCUSS A PARTICULAR SECTION OF THE PLAN THAT YOU WANT TO YOU KNOW, LOOK AT WE HAVE THE CATEGORIES, RIGHT.
NATURAL ENVIRONMENTS WHICH WAS LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS. WE HAVE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, ENERGY AND BUILDINGS, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, INNOVATIVE WASTE MANAGEMENT, EDUCATION AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
SO MAYBE WE COME UP WITH A PLAN AS A GROUP THAT YOU WANT TO WORK ON ONE CATEGORY FIRST.
AND WE JUST LOOK AT IT COMPLETELY FRESH.
BECAUSE THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY TO YOU IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOUR PLAN.
IT'S THE CITY'S PLAN, BUT IT'S YOUR PLAN TOO.
AND SO IF THESE CATEGORIES NO LONGER WORK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO REVAMP SOME OF THE THE PRIORITIES THAT WERE SET IN THERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THAT TOO.
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YOU'RE A DIFFERENT GROUP AND YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT.SO I WANT YOU TO FEEL FREE AS YOU'RE READING IT TO SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, WHY IS THIS IN HERE? OR YOU THINK OF SOMETHING THAT'S NOT EVEN COVERED.
SO I THINK TO YOU MENTIONED PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
I THINK THERE ARE THINGS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY WHERE THE PUBLIC IS.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY ENGAGING THEMSELVES WITH THIS BOARD.
SO THERE IS SOME RECOGNITION OF EITHER INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OR THE BOARD AS A COLLECTIVE IN BEING SEEN TO THE COMMUNITY AS A LIAISON, I THINK, TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT ALSO AS A PLACE TO COME AND MEET NEIGHBORS AND DISCUSS ISSUES.
AND SO I, I'M EXCITED BY THAT.
AND I WANT TO ADD THAT TO THE IT'S NOT JUST THE WRITTEN WORD.
THERE'S ALSO A VERY ACTIVE ACTION IN PLACE HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF US.
IT'S GREAT. LIKE WHEN THE NEMO GARDEN PEOPLE CAME.
AND AND I DON'T WANT TO MINIMIZE EITHER.
YEAH. ALL ALL VERY EXCITING AND VERY, VERY CONTRIBUTORY I THINK TO WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.
ARE YOU GOING TO SAY OH, ONE OTHER THING TOO, THAT I WANT US ALL TO PAY ATTENTION TO IS THE MORE I'M SERVING ON THIS BOARD AND GETTING ACTIVE IN THE CITY, WE ARE NOT ISOLATED.
YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, THE DEVELOPMENTAL LAND CODES ARE BEING UPDATED AND AND THE CITY COUNCIL, THERE ARE ISSUES COMING BEFORE COUNCIL THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE ISSUES.
SO I THINK THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD HAD A MEETING OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY GRANTS THAT DEAL WITH TOXIC LAND AND THINGS IN INTERNSHIPS AND SO OTHER BOARDS ARE ALSO TOUCHING UPON WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE TOUCHING UPON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO I'D LIKE TO KEEP US ALL ENGAGED AND THOUGHTFUL OF WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON IN THE CITY BESIDES US.
SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A PLAN AND SOME HOMEWORK.
[OTHER BUSINESS]
ALL RIGHT. AND SPEAKING OF OTHER HOMEWORK, GOING INTO OTHER BUSINESS, WE HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR 2024 FOLLOW UP.BUDGET WISE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE MADE ANY PROGRESS ON THAT.
I KNOW I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON THAT.
IS THERE? HAS ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO? I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS, IS KIND OF COMING UP WITH A BUDGET.
HAS ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR PROGRESS? AND JUST FOR DISCUSSION, IT'S NOT A WE'RE IN TROUBLE UNLESS STAFF IS GOING TO GET US SOME PUNCH, SLAP OUR WRISTS.
NO, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF ONE OF THE BIG STEPS, RIGHT? WE HAD SAID IN THE MINUTES WE HAD SAID THAT BY SEPTEMBER.
BUT TO HAVE AN IDEA OF A BUDGET AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
ANY DISCUSSION THERE? WELL, HEARING THAT KERRY HAD COME UP WITH A WONDERFUL PARAMETERS FOR A BUDGET. AND I'M THINKING AREN'T WE? IS IT? ARE YOU PLANNING TO PRESENT SOMETHING IN THIS YEAR'S UPCOMING BUDGET, WHICH IS IN PROCESS FROM SPECIFIC TO THE THE FAIR? WELL, YES, TO THE COST OF THE FAIR.
AND TO KNOW THERE'S NOTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED TO ME TO REQUEST.
SO THAT'S NOT BUILT INTO THE BUDGET CURRENTLY.
DOES UTILITIES I FORGET, DOES UTILITIES HAVE A LITTLE MONEY BUILT IN FOR ANYTHING ON THEIR END, OR WERE WE JUST RATING THEIR THEIR OUTREACH BUDGET FOR THIS? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE MIGHT HAVE DONE LAST YEAR.
WE PIGGYBACKED OFF THEM, YOU KNOW, ONLY BECAUSE WE WERE PRETTY MUCH UNPREPARED.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE GOING TO GET THAT OPTION AGAIN THIS YEAR.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
SO I'M GOING TO REFRESH KIND OF THE NUMBERS THAT THEY GAVE US.
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SO WE KIND OF START TRYING TO WORK BACK OFF THAT.SO UTILITIES GAVE US A NUMBER THAT WAS ALMOST EIGHT GRAND AND THAT COVERED, YOU KNOW, YOUR EYES, THE CONSERVATION TABLE FOR THE BIRD FEEDER, THE FACE PAINTING, THE BOUNCE HOUSE, THE EVENT T SHIRTS, YOUR SWAG GIVEAWAYS.
LOOKS LIKE THE PHOTO BOOTH A PHOTO BOOTH AND PLANTS YOUR GAMES, YOUR TABLES LOOKS LIKE TABLECLOTHS.
JUST TENTS. SOME OTHER THINGS.
THEN WE HAD THE BREAKDOWN THAT CAME FROM DANIEL.
WHICH I CAN EMAIL THIS BREAKDOWN AGAIN, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER 1000, $2,000 TO ADD ON, AND THAT IS ONLY IF WE GO WITH THE KIND OF THE SAME SCOPE THAT WE WENT WITH THE FIRST YEAR, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE DISCUSSION YOU GUYS ARE COMING UP WITH WAS WHAT IS YOUR IDEA FOR THIS COMING ONE? WHAT'S YOUR THEME FOR THIS YEAR? WELL, I THINK IT'S KIND OF A CONSENSUS THAT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO STAY WITH THE LOGO AND BE THE SOLUTION, YOU KNOW? BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO AND I KNOW THERE'S A DISCUSSION ABOUT DOING LIKE A5K RUN HEALTHY SECTION OF IT.
THE SPACE IS, IS GONE, YOU KNOW AND IT'S LOOKING GOOD.
IT'S COMING ALONG. I KNOW THOUGHTS OF TURKEY CREEK.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER I THINK WE HAVE, LIKE, STATIONS, SO WE PROBABLY CAN'T DO THE MOVIE AGAIN, RIGHT? OH I SPOKE WITH THE AIR, THE STAFF THAT NORMALLY SETS UP OUR FIVE DAYS AND SHE EMAILED ME ALL THE DOCUMENTATION TO DO IT. SHE WAS ACTUALLY HERE LAST MEETING, BUT EITHER WAY, I CAN GIVE IT TO CARRIE OR JESSIE FOR THEM TO EMAIL YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT WHAT SHE SENT ME.
SHE WAS SUGGESTING, LIKE, FRED POPPY PARK, WHERE IT'S PAVED.
I BELIEVE THE CITY ALREADY HAS THE TIMERS AND EVERYTHING FOR THAT, TOO.
SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO SET SOMETHING UP LIKE THAT.
OKAY? IT'S REALLY GROWN DOWN THERE TOO, SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A LOT OF PARTICIPATION.
CAN WE MAKE IT A RUN FOR FUN AND FUNDING? MAYBE TO PLANT A TREE OR DO THE CITY NATIVE GARDEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO HAVE A PERSON OR A.
YEAH, SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT MAYBE DOING LIKE SOME KIND OF FEES, WHATEVER.
AND MAYBE THIS IS PART OF TO PAY FOR OR LIKE A COST SHARE, MAYBE MONEY THAT'S RAISED IS TO HELP PAY FOR THE FARE ITSELF, BUT ALSO TO DONATE TO, LIKE, A 501 C3. WHETHER WE THINK IT'S LIKE TO DO TREE PLANTINGS OR THOSE KIND OF THINGS OR EDUCATIONAL FOR MAYBE THERE'S A GRANT THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE THROUGH THE CITY CHARTER OR RULES.
OBVIOUSLY, WE CAN'T ALLOCATE MONEY OR THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION WHERE THERE'S A FUND FOR LIKE A GRANT THAT AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD OR SOMETHING, OR ABLE TO DONATE TO A SCHOOL TO DO SOME KIND OF AS A GRANT, SOME KIND OF EDUCATIONAL, SUSTAINABLE PROJECT. IT'S DEFINITELY CLEANER AND MORE WITHIN THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD.
RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I WOULD I WOULD STEER AWAY FROM ANY KIND OF DISCUSSION ABOUT GIVING DONATIONS.
WE HAVE A CITY NONPROFIT ARM, A 500 AND 1C3 THAT HANDLES ALL THAT.
IT'S THE PALM BAY MUNICIPAL FOUNDATION.
SO WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT TO OKAY.
YOU KNOW, GO DOWN THAT PATH. BUT YEAH, IF YOU WANTED TO DO LIKE USE THAT AS SEED MONEY TO FOR FUTURE PROGRAMS, MAKE THE NEXT YEAR'S FAIR EVEN BIGGER OR WHATEVER OR, YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER KINDS OF EDUCATIONAL WORKSHOPS.
AND ERIC, IN THE PLANS THAT THEY SENT THAT, IS THERE ANY LIKE MAYBE AN IDEA OF REVENUE THAT'S COME FROM PAST FIVE CAYCE? I READ IT ALMOST TWO MONTHS AGO.
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OFFHAND, WORD FOR WORD, WHAT IT SAID.OKAY. I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION TO CARRIE TOMORROW OR JESSIE, WHOEVER FOR THEM TO SEND IT OUT TO YOU GUYS.
DO WE WANT TO BUILD ON GOING IN WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS LIKE LAST YEAR? ISN'T IT WATER MONTH? APRIL. PUBLIC WORKS.
SO BECAUSE IT WAS EARTH DAY, I THINK IT WAS EARTH MONTH.
YEAH. AND THEN WE ALSO HAD DISCUSSED ABOUT TURKEY CREEK RIGHT IN THAT TIME.
THE TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY HAS SOME, IF Y'ALL REMEMBER.
AND FORGIVE ME, KEVIN SMITH AIN'T HERE TONIGHT.
I THINK DANIEL HAD TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE FRED POPPY PARK AND EXTENDING IT TO USE THE PAVILION.
SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD KIND OF DO MORE OF A.
OH, SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT WITH THIS EXPO OR EDUCATION.
I THINK JUST TO MAKE IT MORE OF A KID PORTION AS WELL, HAVING IT RIGHT NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND, THEY'RE DOING THE FIVE K RUN THERE.
AND I, I'LL REFRESH YOUR MEMORY ON THAT.
HE WANTED TO CALL IT THE SUSTAINABILITY SHUFFLE SUPPLE FOR THE FIVE K, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS CUTE.
WELL, I REMEMBER LAST YEAR, I, WE REALLY HAD THE GROUPS WERE AT SEPARATE PARTS AND SO WE NEVER GOT TO SEE THE OTHER THE PUBLIC WORKS PEOPLE.
AND THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MOVIE AND WE HAD A PRESENTATION AND I THE PAVILION SOUNDS LIKE A PERFECT WAY TO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. AND I THINK THAT WAS KIND OF THE DISCUSSION.
WAS THAT MOVING IT TO THE PAVILION PORTION, IT NOT ONLY GAVE IT MORE OF A SHADED AREA, BUT IT WAS NEXT TO THE PLAYGROUND, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER ON THE PARENTS THAT WOULD COME AND ATTEND.
YEAH. AND I DO THINK IT IS A PERFECT SETUP.
IT'S ONE OF THE LARGER PARKS THAT WE HAVE.
I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE I THINK THAT AGAIN, LIKE WE HAD DISCUSSED ABOUT GETTING THOSE FLIERS DONE ALONG WITH THE BUDGET EARLY ENOUGH SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD THEN GIVES YOU SEVERAL MONTHS TO START PUSHING THOSE FLIERS OUT THERE INTO THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY TALKING WITH PEOPLE SO THAT WE HAD MORE ADVERTISEMENT VERSUS THE LAST MINUTE THAT WE DID THIS LAST YEAR.
DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT DATES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR WITH THE.
DO WE WANT TO HAVE IT ON EARTH DAY OR THAT WEEKEND OR ARE WE FLEXIBLE.
CURRENTLY UTILITIES DOESN'T HAVE AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR TO PLAN ALL THESE LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO THEY'RE WORKING ON RESTAFFING THAT POSITION.
BUT WE ARE ONBOARDING AN OUTREACH COORDINATOR HOPEFULLY IN TWO WEEKS.
HE WILL BE A GREAT HELP FOR ALL THIS STUFF TO PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, ON EARTH DAY, BIRTHDAY WEEK.
BUT WE CAN CHECK WITH DANIEL TO SEE IF HE HAS ANYTHING ALREADY SCHEDULED, OR MAYBE SHE ALREADY SCHEDULED IT BEFORE SHE LEFT THE CITY, AND I CAN SEE WHAT HE HAS ON THERE AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW. YEAH.
WE'D ALSO HAVE TO CHECK THE RUNNING ZONE CALENDAR TO SEE IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE.
SO DO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED, CARRIE, TO SUBMIT A BUDGET PLACEHOLDER FOR THIS, SO TO SPEAK? I MEAN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MISS A BUDGET DEADLINE.
NO, MA'AM, I'M GONNA BE HONEST.
WELL, I LIKED WHAT YOU RATTLED OFF.
I REALLY, I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE MINIMUM RIGHT? THERE IS ALL THE OR ALL THOSE ITEMS. I THINK THE BIG THING HERE IS GOING TO BE FIRST, LIKE DECIDING IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FIVE K RUN, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG PORTION OF
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HOW THIS BUDGET WOULD ACTUALLY GO DOWN, BECAUSE IT'D BE IN YOUR FIRST YEAR WITH THE RUN.YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PROFIT IS GOING TO BE ON THE RUN.
AND ANY PROFIT THAT WOULD BE MADE ON THAT WOULD BE INTO THE FUTURE BUDGET.
SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE A COST THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
BECAUSE IN ORDER TO DO THAT, FIVE K, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, YOU HAVE TO NOW FOR THEM TO DO THE FIVE K, THEY USE A THIRD PARTY SOURCE THAT YOU WOULD GO THROUGH.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO FIND ALL THOSE FACTORS OUT.
SO AGAIN, I CAN'T SAY THAT IF THAT'S THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO GO, THAT WE CAN USE THAT FIRST YEAR'S BUDGET AS OUR RUNNING POINT BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
WE REALLY HAVE TO DO OUR HOMEWORK HERE OVER THE NEXT MONTHS REALLY NEXT MONTH.
THIS MEANS WHERE A LOT OF YOU GUYS MIGHT NEED TO PRIVATELY DO SOME HOMEWORK AND EMAIL THE STAFF SO THAT WE CAN THEN EMAIL AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITHOUT DOING THE VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAWS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS VALIDATED, BECAUSE I THINK THE BUDGET IS DUE IN OCTOBER FOR US TO TURN INCORRECT.
SO THE BUDGET'S ALREADY SET FOR THE FOR OCTOBER 1ST.
SORRY, KERRY, I'LL HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT LISTENING TO WHERE YOU'RE AT, OBVIOUSLY WE WE HAVE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE.
WE CAN PULL MONEY OUT OF THERE AS WE NEED TO FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WE'VE DONE THIS FAIR TWICE.
THE FIRST FORGETTING THE FACT THAT THE FIRST ONE WAS HERE AT THIS CAMPUS.
DID YOU ALL LIKE THE MODEL OF THE FIRST ONE VERSUS THE SECOND ONE BETTER? OR MAYBE YOU WEREN'T AT THE FIRST ONE, SO YOU CAN'T COMPARE.
BUT THOSE THAT WERE, THOSE THAT SAW BOTH.
WHICH ONE DID YOU LIKE BETTER? I THINK THE FIRST ONE WAS MORE INFORMATIONAL FOR PEOPLE.
I LIKE THE KID FRIENDLY ASPECT, BUT I DON'T.
I DON'T SEE WHY WE CAN'T HAVE BOTH.
WE HAD PEOPLE INTERESTED IN PRESENTING IDEAS FOR YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF TOPICS.
THE RAIN BARREL WAS ONE OF THEM, BUT THERE WERE MANY OTHER TOPICS.
AND I THINK THE KID FRIENDLY ONE, INSTEAD OF HAVING A5K RUN, THEY COULD HAVE, IF WE HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET TO LIKE, HAVE A CHECKLIST OF PLANTS THEY MIGHT FIND AT FRED POPPY AND THEY COULD GO AND LOOK AND CHECK THEM OFF OR, YOU KNOW SOME OTHER NOT A SCAVENGER HUNT PER SE.
WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT STUFF OUT, BUT STUFF THAT'S ALREADY GROWING THERE.
OR MAYBE WE COULD PUT IN SOME NATIVE PLANTS OR SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT YEAH.
I THINK THE LAST YEAR'S WAS KIND OF THROWN TOGETHER, AND WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO AND GET A PLAN REACH OUT TO PEOPLE TO FOR THEM TO GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER.
SO I THINK THE THE TYPEKIT I REALLY AM EXCITED ABOUT THE FIVE K.
HAVING THAT ASPECT DRAW IN, PEOPLE GET A WHOLE DIFFERENT CROWD.
A LOT OF TIMES RUNNERS ARE, I THINK, ENVIRONMENTAL LIKE OUT OUTSIDE TYPE OF DEAL THAT DO FIVE K'S AND RACES AND THEN HAVING THAT EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT OF VENDORS OR LIKE TABLING OPPORTUNITIES FWC HAVE HAVE THEM BRING OUT A GATOR.
LIKE, OH, I'VE SEEN THAT GOING DOWN THE ROAD OR WHAT'S IT DO TYPE THING.
I REALLY LIKE THAT IDEA, AND I THINK FRED PARK WOULD BE PERFECT TO START THE RUN AND END AROUND THE PAVILIONS, OR START THERE AND THERE TYPE DEAL AND A LOT OF OPEN SPACE TO RUN AROUND TOO. OKAY, SO EDUCATIONAL IS A BIG PART OF IT THEN.
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THAT HELPS. SO MAYBE WHAT WE'LL DO JUST SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE THIRD YEAR OF A LAST MINUTE SCRAMBLE.THAT'S THE BIG PUSH THAT WE REALLY BECAUSE EACH YEAR IT'S BEEN A STOP AND START.
IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
BUT LET'S MAKE THIS A YEAR THAT WE DO IT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW? AND I GOT SOME MORE FREE HELP US.
RIGHT. HELP US WITH THE LEGWORK TO GET, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WAS LIKE, THOSE ARE GREAT IDEAS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REACHED OUT TO THEM LAST TIME.
BUT FIRST WE GOT TO PICK A DATE AND A FEW OTHER THINGS.
SO DO YOU THINK SO YOU'LL KIND OF GET LIKE A BUDGET NUMBER.
I THINK THE BIGGEST PART OF THE BUDGET WOULD BE THE FIVE K OR FOR THREE K.
AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU WHICH ONE YOU LIKED BETTER, WHICH FORMATS.
BECAUSE I MEAN WE KNOW BASICALLY WHAT EACH YEAR COSTS.
BOTH BOTH YEARS WE PIGGYBACKED OFF OF UTILITIES.
THEY WERE VERY KIND AND GRACIOUS.
AND WE DID A COMBINED INITIATIVE.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.
THEY HAVE THINGS THEY NEED TO DO EDUCATION WISE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW PREPARED THEY ARE FOR THAT.
BUT WE HAVE TO CARRY ON ON OUR PLAN.
DO WE HAVE I MEAN, DO WE HAVE TO PAY FOR KONA ICE TO BE THERE? IF WE HAVE VENDORS LIKE THAT COME OUT? YEAH WE DO. YEAH.
YEAH. AND ALSO, I THINK WE HAD THAT BUBBLE VENDOR.
YOU REMEMBER THE BUBBLE PLAY? WHAT? FOAM. FOAM VENDOR? YES, I THINK WE PAID FOR THAT.
THAT ONE? SAME ONE? YEAH. THEY WERE AT THE FIRST FAIR.
THE FIRST SUSTAINABILITY FAIR? YEAH. SO? SO WHERE IS THE ACTION ITEM ON DETERMINING THE DATE? IS THAT SEEING A FRED PUPPY PARK IS AVAILABLE.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO A QUICK CHECK ON RUNNING ZONE WITH THE WITH THE RACE AVAILABILITY FOR WEEKENDS, WE NEED TO CHECK ON OUR FACILITY AVAILABILITY, AND THEN WE CAN HONE IN ON A DATE OR TWO THAT WORKS.
OKAY. TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING ELSE THE CITY IS DOING.
WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, START HITTING VENDORS MUCH EARLIER.
CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S THE GOAL.
YEAH. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO LOCK THAT DOWN BEFORE NEXT MEETING.
WE'LL BRING IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE BUDGET WISE Y'ALL ARE GOING TO I'LL HANDLE THAT.
OKAY. DO THE BEST WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
OKAY. COOL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ON THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR? ALL RIGHT. LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT UPDATE.
SO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENTS, I KNOW THERE'S A I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO IT.
I KNOW THERE'S A QUESTION YOU WERE SEEKING TO ANSWER.
DO YOU WANT TO DO IT FIRST? KERRY. GO AHEAD.
THE REASON THIS WAS LEFT ON THE AGENDA IS WHEN WE HAD FERGUSON COME AND TALK WITH US.
THAT DISCUSSION WENT ON AND ON AND AND WE ENDED UP HAVING TO, SO WE LEFT THAT ON HERE.
WE ALSO THOUGHT THAT MR. TOM POTTS WAS COMING TO TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING AS WELL, BUT WE LEFT THAT DISCUSSION REALLY ON HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO.
BECAUSE WE DID KIND OF HAVE TO STOP THAT, THAT LAST MEETING.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHY IT WAS ON HERE AND THEN.
YES. ANYTHING SUZANNE WOULD LIKE TO.
CLEARLY IT HASN'T BEEN EDITED SINCE IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
USED ANY OF THE INCENTIVE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE MATRIX.
THE MATRIX IS THE PAGE I ALWAYS PULL OUT BECAUSE IT'S AN EASY SNAPSHOT, RIGHT? BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DIFFERENT INCENTIVES YOU COULD HAVE FOR PARKING, OPEN SPACE, LANDSCAPE BUFFER SETBACKS IF YOU DO CERTAIN TYPES OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT BMPS.
THE ANSWER I'VE GOT EVERY TIME I'VE CHECKED IS NO ONE'S TAKEN US UP ON THE OFFER.
SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT NOT TOO SURPRISING, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S VOLUNTARY, THERE'S NO PENALTIES ATTACHED OR ANYTHING.
THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL WANT TO START.
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THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE ON YOUR LIST, BECAUSE IF YOU REALLY DIG INTO THIS AND YOU YOU WANT TO TALK TO COUNCIL ULTIMATELY ABOUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE SOME OF THIS MANDATORY.WE COULD EXPLORE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG THING POLITICALLY, RIGHT? I MEAN, THE ONLY TIME I SEE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE DOING UNDERGROUND STORM WATER IS WHEN THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE OF THE SITE.
THE DAIRY QUEEN ACROSS THE ROAD IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
THE LITTLE MEDIFAST CLINIC RIGHT NEXT TO CITY HALL.
TINY SPACES. THEY HAD TO PUT IT UNDERGROUND SO THEY DIDN'T DO IT VOLUNTARILY.
YOU COULD DIG INTO THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MANUAL.
YOU COULD TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE BUILDS OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE MORE NATURAL AREAS FOR THE STORMWATER TO FLOW IN ON THEIR PROPERTIES? YOU KNOW, I, I CERTAINLY LIKE THE IDEA, BUT IT'S NOT MANDATORY, SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
SO. I DID SEE THAT CARRIE HAD SENT US THE ENTIRE PACKET IN MAY.
I GOT I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
SORRY. I WAS RECENTLY DIGGING INTO THE EPA'S WEBSITE, THERE IS A THERE IS A FUNCTION WHERE YOU CAN ACTUALLY GO AND SEE WHAT COMPANIES OR NEW BUILDINGS FACILITIES HAVE VIOLATIONS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY STORMWATER BMPS.
AND WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY IN PALM BAY AS OTHER AREAS IN THE COUNTRY.
SO IT'S A PRETTY BIG DOCUMENT.
I LOOKED AT SOME OF THE PAGES.
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THROUGH THE ENTIRE THING, BUT I CAN IMAGINE THAT SOME OF IT MAY CHANGE OR BE AFFECTED BY THE MEETING AND THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENING TOMORROW.
IF WE GET ANY KIND OF EVEN I COULD LET YOU TALK ABOUT IT IN A SECOND, ERIC.
THE TEAM IS ON IT, LIKE SO FAST.
I THINK PART OF THE REASON YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF THINGS FROM PALM BAY IS JUST BASED ON OUR LEVEL AND TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, LIKE A LOT OF PLACES HAVE THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE COMMERCIAL THAN WE DO.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THAT.
BUT I, I HAVE EXPERIENCED PLENTY OF TIMES WHEN THE TEAM HAS.
THERE WAS A REPORT FROM A RESIDENT THERE LEAKING SOMETHING INTO THE INTO TURKEY CREEK.
WE'RE OUT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
YOU KNOW, THEY THEY TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
ERIC MS ERIC, PART OF HIS TEAM IS, IS RESPONDING TO THOSE THINGS.
YEAH. MOST OF OUR CODES CURRENTLY THAT INVOLVE ANY KIND OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF AREN'T TYPICALLY HANDLED THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT OR STUFF LIKE THAT AND DOCUMENTED ON THOSE WEBSITES. THAT WAY THEY'RE HANDLED THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
SO WE HAVE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE USE THAT ENFORCE THOSE RULES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT AREN'T THROUGH, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WOULD BE DOCUMENTED ON THE INTERNET.
OKAY. SO WE FEED THAT FROM LIKE YOUR DEPARTMENTS INTO THE EPA, THAT KIND OF.
OKAY. GOTCHA. IT USUALLY GOES TO THE STATE AND THEN THE STATE GIVES IT TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
OKAY. I'D LIKE TO EXPAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, TOO, ABOUT OUR BOARD LOOKING AT THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT MATRIX, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S COME UP IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES TO, TO MORE STRONGLY INCENTIVIZE.
THAT'S THE WORD NO LONGER VOLUNTARY.
AND I THINK WE COULD PLAY A BIG PART IN LOOKING AT THAT AND RECOMMENDING.
MAYBE A MANDATORY OR A DIFFERENT WAY OF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
ULTIMATELY, IT'S GOT TO BE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, I THINK WHERE AND I THINK THE REVIEW AND THE UPDATE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES THIS PAST TIME WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND I PARTICIPATED IN IT.
AND I THINK YOU GET THE BEST RESULT.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE US JUST LIKE WE'RE REVIEWING THE ACTION PLAN.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAYBE EVEN PRIORITIZE THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AS IT WORKS
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WITH OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.SPECIFICALLY, LOOK AT THAT WHICH WOULD INVOLVE ALL THE THINGS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT WITH THE TREES AND THE FLOOD AND EVERYTHING. SO I GUESS I'M SAYING PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
ARE WE GOING TO BE MEETING FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS OR SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE? AND THAT KIND OF GOES WITH THAT ASPECT WITH PLANNING AND ZONING.
WOULD THAT BE UNDER THEIR ADVISORY BOARD OR IS THAT A COLLABORATIVE? YEAH, THEY WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE A ROLE AND COUNCIL WOULD HAVE A ROLE IN ANY CHANGES.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT, IF YOU WANT A PLACE TO START TO DRILL DOWN INTO IT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE INSTEAD OF YOU COULD READ THE WHOLE MANUAL AGAIN IF YOU LIKE, BUT YOU COULD ALSO JUST GO TO THE MATRIX.
THINK ABOUT WHICH ONES YOU THINK JUST FROM A LAYPERSON STANDPOINT, RIGHT.
THESE MIGHT BE EASY TO MOVE FROM VOLUNTARY TO SOMETHING THAT'S MANDATORY.
BUT THEN THE TASK FOR YOU ALL BECOMES A RESEARCH PROJECT.
THEN IT'S LIKE, IF I'M YOU, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW IF I PICK ONE OF THESE, WHAT DO I THINK IS MOST LIKELY TO BE EFFECTIVE? SO THAT MEANS I'M LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES ORDINANCES FOR THESE KINDS OF TOPICS TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING, TO HOLD THE DEVELOPERS TO THOSE CERTAIN STANDARDS.
I'M ON THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
YOU KNOW. ARE YOU PASSING THAT COST ALONG TO THE CUSTOMER ANYWAY? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE ISSUE? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST YOU? I KNOW IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO GET AN AUDIENCE WITH THEM, BUT YOU COULD TRY.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THEM THAT COME TO COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THAT'S A GOOD PLACE TO START FINDING OUT WHO THEY ARE.
PROBABLY MAKES SENSE TO GRADUALLY TRY TO GET TO THAT PLACE.
YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES SENSE? THAT WE COULD TRY TO WHETHER IT MAKE IT MANDATORY OR IMPROVE THE INCENTIVIZING OF IT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO YOU ALL.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT DISCUSSION FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE.
YOU LOOK AT THE MATRIX. YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IN MY MIND.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING THE NEXT PUBLIX OR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW WELL, I WON'T USE DOLLAR TREE AS AN EXAMPLE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING THE NEXT WONDERFUL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK MAKES THE MOST SENSE THAT THEY COULD DO THAT? SHOULD BE NOT THAT HARD TO DO, BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.
SO I THINK PEOPLE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE BAYFRONT DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT ARE LOCAL.
AND I DID SPEAK WITH ONE, AND I ASKED ABOUT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY SAID THERE WOULD BE SOME INCORPORATED INTO IT, BUT PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE. I THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY AT THE FAIR TO HAVE BIG VISUALS OF THIS IS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS NOT AND PEOPLE GRAVITATE TOWARD LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
IT WOULD BE SMART FOR ANY, ANY BUSINESS WANTING TO DRAW IN PEOPLE TO USE THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S SO MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AND PEOPLE JUST FEEL BETTER IN THAT ENVIRONMENT WITHOUT REALLY CONSCIOUSLY BEING AWARE OF WHY THEY LOOK BETTER. YEAH.
AND IN THAT LOW, WHEN THEY DID THE LID PRESENTATION TO US, THERE'S A WEBSITE THAT HAS ALL THE LOCAL CITIES, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THE CITIES.
GOOD IDEA. YEAH. I LIKE YEAH, I KNOW I'VE GOT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THE VERSION ONLINE, BUT I'M NOT SURE I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
YEAH. YEAH, I COULD EASILY SHARE IT.
I COULD SHARE IT. THAT'D BE GOOD.
DO YOU GOING BACK TO REVIEWING THE LID MATRIX AND TALKING TO
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DEVELOPERS AND OTHERS ABOUT MAKING IT MANDATORY OR INCENTIVIZING.I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
DO YOU SEE US AS A BOARD INVITING THE DEVELOPERS HERE, OR DO YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING OUTSIDE OF THIS, WHERE I GUESS ONE OF US CAN ONLY BE PRESENT? YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IF YOU'RE FURTHER DOWN THE PATH AND YOU'VE DEVELOPED A NEW STANDARD, A NEW RECOMMENDATION, A NEW ORDINANCE THAT YOU WANT TO BRING FORWARD, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD DO WHAT WE JUST DID WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES, AND YOU COULD HAVE A PUBLIC WORKSHOP.
YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR BOARD REALLY.
PLEASE JOIN US AT PUBLIC MEETING AND GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK.
SO I HAVE OPENED OUR SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.
AND ACTUALLY GOAL NUMBER THREE IS THE LOW IMPACT SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT CITY PLANNING.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF OUR PRIORITIES.
BUT WE HAVE THAT IN THE ACTION PLAN ALREADY.
SO I THINK THAT BUILDS ON WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
A POLICY TO INCENTIVIZE BEST PRACTICES AND DESIGN.
THAT'S MY VOTE FOR ONE OF THE PRIZE.
SO WE KNOW THAT FOR NEXT MEETING.
YEAH. ALSO, I WAS GOING TO KIND OF BRING THIS UP IN THE UPCOMING MEETINGS OR INFORMATIONAL, BUT SOMETHING THAT MAY HELP WITH PUSHING AN ORDINANCE OR A POLICY WOULD BE BECOMING A DESIGNATED TREE CITY.
I KNOW WE HAD A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ALSO HAD BROUGHT THAT UP.
I HAD LOOKED UP SOME CITIES, LIKE CITY OF PALMETTO.
A FEW OF THEM ARE DESIGNATED TREE CITIES.
THERE IS GRANT FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THAT AND NOT BE A MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE $50,000 HERE AND THERE.
SO THAT ONE IS JUST GREAT FOR MARKETING OUR CITY AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO ACTUALLY CHANGING ORDINANCES AND MAKING THINGS MANDATORY.
AWESOME. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? ARE WE IN UPCOMING MEETINGS ABOUT TO BE OKAY? ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL CLOSE OUT THE LOW IMPACT LID UPDATE.
LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT UPDATE.
AND THEN WE WILL RUSH INTO THE UPCOMING MEETINGS AND EVENTS.
OKAY. I BROUGHT FLIERS FOR Y'ALL.
REGGAE FAIR SATURDAY OR SUNDAY? SUNDAY I THINK AT FRED POPPE.
OKAY. I HAVE SOME FOR THE CITY.
IT'S BASICALLY FOR OUR UPCOMING EVENTS.
OH, SORRY. FOR UPCOMING EVENTS.
DEALING WITH HOA AND NATIVE PLANTS.
HOA IS, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY PRESENTING TO YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
A NATIVE PLANT PLAN SUCCESSFULLY.
THOSE TWO SESSIONS COMING UP IN A WEEK? PRETTY MUCH.
AND THEN THE OCTOBER SESSIONS ARE GOING TO BE INVASIVE ALTERNATIVES TO OUT THERE THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE LOOKING AT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT INVASIVES ARE.
AND THEN AT THE TOP IS THE ACTUAL TOUR.
WHICH THIS YEAR IS FOCUSED ON HOAS.
SO FIVE OUT OF SIX HOMES ARE IN HOAS.
THEY'RE NOT IN PALM BAY, UNFORTUNATELY.
AND THE ONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS IS THE ONE SPEAKING AT THE SEPTEMBER SESSIONS, AND SHE IS AWESOME.
SO THAT'S A REALLY GOOD PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE GLAD TO SEND YOU A SOFT COPY INFORMATION.
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IT'S ALL OUT THERE ON EVENTBRITE SO YOU CAN EASILY GET TO IT OR SCAN THE CODE.CAN THE CITY DO ANYTHING? THROUGH OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE? OR IS THIS TOO DISTANT FROM.
THEY HAVE TO BE WHAT'S CALLED LIKE CITY CO-SPONSORED.
THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OR THEY'RE A CITY EVENT.
SO OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO CONTROL HOW MUCH.
YOU KNOW, IF WE DO, FOR ONE, WE HAVE TO DO FOR ALL.
SO THAT WAS THE POLICY THAT WAS SET YEARS AGO.
YEAH. WHAT I'M HOPING IS NEXT YEAR OR SOME VERY FUTURE YEAR WE WOULD BE PRIMARILY IN PALM BAY BECAUSE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW NATIVE LANDSCAPE HOMES IN PALM BAY.
I'D LOVE TO DO THAT WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THE ONLY CRITERIA THAT I ALWAYS.
THERE'S A FEW CRITERIA, BUT ONE OF THE KEY ONES IS IT HAS TO BE FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WE SURE. WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME COME TO PALM BAY WITH THAT.
THAT'D BE COOL. YEAH, BECAUSE ALL THESE INFO SESSIONS ARE FREE.
IT'S ONLY THE TOUR COSTS ANY MONEY? YEAH. THEN WE COULD PARTNER ON THAT.
ANYONE ELSE? YES, I SEE YOUR STACK OVER THERE.
AND ONE IS THE ACTION ASSEMBLY FROM THE MRC.
AND I THINK THE CITY WAS GOING TO ATTEND THAT.
AND ALSO THERE WAS A BREVARD MUNICIPAL, A MEETING OF ALL THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEES, BOARDS THAT HAPPENED THAT I ATTENDED AND AND KEVIN ATTENDED.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S TIME.
EVEN YOUR EVENT WITH CONRADINA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY AND HAVING ASKING US THE BOARD RIGHT NOW WHO MAY WANT TO ATTEND OR AND OR OFFICIALLY ATTEND AND COME BACK WITH A PRESENTATION.
HAVING SAID THAT, THERE IS THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE IS ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 6TH AND SEVENTH.
IS THE CITY HAS THE CITY ALREADY COMMITTED TO GOING TO THAT OR.
I HADN'T EVEN HEARD THE DATES YET.
IT'S NOVEMBER 6TH THROUGH THE SEVENTH.
DID THEY SEND OUT AN EMAIL RECENTLY? IS THAT HOW YOU GOT IT HERE? YEAH. AND THEY HAD YES.
THEY JUST RECENTLY HIRED THEIR NEW DIRECTOR.
RIGHT. SO I THINK SOME OF THIS MAY BE IN IN FLUX.
BUT I'LL SHARE THIS WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS HERE.
THEY DID PRESENT AN AGENDA, AND THERE'S ONE ITEM ON HERE.
NOW, THIS IS A TWO DAY CONFERENCE NOVEMBER 6TH THROUGH SEVENTH.
I THINK WHAT WE DID LAST TIME WAS WE SPLIT IT ONE PERSON AND THERE'S A COST TO.
SO ONE PERSON WENT ONE DAY AND ONE PERSON WENT THE OTHER DAY, WHICH WORKED OUT GOOD.
DON'T YOU ALL WANT TO GO TO THAT? I DO, I DO.
SO AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS IMPLEMENTING A RAIN GARDEN TO REDUCE FLOODING IN CAPE CANAVERAL.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A SPEAKER FROM CAPE CANAVERAL.
AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE ON THAT RAIN GARDEN.
OH GOSH. HERE'S ANOTHER ITEM IMPLEMENTING A STORMWATER MASTER PLAN THAT'S GOT YOUR NAME ON IT LOGAN AND BLUE GREEN STREETS. SO THAT'S WHAT'S COMING UP.
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I HOPE THE CITY WILL SEND AS MANY PEOPLE.IT'S TRADITIONALLY HAS A PRETTY GOOD STAFF REPRESENTATION THERE.
AND SUZANNE WAS ONE OF THE STARS LAST YEAR SHE SPOKE AND ANNOUNCED THE MANDATORY SEWER AND WATER CONNECTION.
IT WAS JUST VERY APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME.
IT WAS A LOT HAPPENS AT THIS CONFERENCE.
ANYONE ELSE? WAS THAT IT FOR YOUR PILE? YES. GET HER GOING AGAIN.
I'M JUST KIDDING. WELL, IF THAT'S IT, I DO WANT TO SAY THE PAST COUPLE DAYS, MAYBE WEEK OR SO, THERE WAS A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT OF DEVELOPING STATE PARKS, AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN SLASHED AND THROWN BACK TO, I GUESS THE TEXT FROM A NEWS SOURCE SAID BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
VERY EXCITED THAT THEY'RE NOT DOING THAT.
I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE VERY DEVASTATING TO STATE PARKS, WHERE WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO BUY DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS OF LARGE PROPERTIES TO CONSERVE OR CONSERVE FLORIDA LANDS AND THE NATURAL PART OF FLORIDA, WHICH SO MANY LOVE AND COME TO FLORIDA FOR.
BUT THEN YOU THINK YOU HAVE TWO STATE PARKS THAT ARE VERY PROTECTED AND THERE'S ECOSYSTEMS. AND THEY WANTED TO PUT PICKLEBALL COURTS, LARGE LODGING CENTERS THAT KIND OF STUFF.
BUT I WOULD SAY KEEP AN EYE OUT.
THEY WERE GOING TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A WAY TO PROTECT OUR PARKS.
AND OBVIOUSLY CITY PARKS, I THINK, GET SOMETIMES CONFUSED WITH THE ONE LIKE RECREATIONAL PARKS.
WE DON'T THROW UP PICKLE BALLS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I THINK MOST OF THE I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYWHERE IN THE ORDINANCES WHERE THAT COULD BE DONE OR IF THEY'RE SOLELY PROTECTED FOR NATIVE PLANTS AND WILDLIFE, OR I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO WHERE WE CAN PROTECT THOSE AREAS OF CONSERVATION LANDS THAT WE HAVE TYPE DEAL.
YOU CAN. YEAH, YOU CAN ESTABLISH SOME PERPETUAL CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON CITY PROPERTY.
TURKEY CREEK IS ALREADY IN THAT STATE, SO THAT WOULD NEVER BE TOUCHED.
BUT YEAH, IF THE QUESTION IS IF WE HAD CITY PARK PROPERTY THAT STILL HAD THAT WASN'T FULLY DEVELOPED, AND WHETHER IT HAD SOME EXISTING SPACE THAT COULD BE CONSERVED, PUT UNDER CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
I KNOW RIGHT NOW SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT'S BEEN COMING TO CITY COUNCIL FROM, LIKE THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD HAS BEEN ABOUT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL FACILITIES FOR RECREATION. SO PICKLEBALL WAS THE MOST RECENT DISCUSSION.
SO THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPING AVAILABLE SPACE AT EXISTING PARKS.
NOW I CAN ONLY I'M NOT GOING THROUGH ALL THE PARKS IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN ONLY THINK OF A COUPLE THAT FOR SURE, FOR SURE HAVE AREAS THAT HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN CONSERVED.
ONE OF THOSE IS BILL MADDEN PARK BECAUSE IT'S FILLED WITH WETLANDS.
SO I DON'T I DON'T SEE US EVER TRYING TO DEVELOP THAT PARK ANYWAY.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S UNDER A CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT.
AND PART OF LIBERTY PARK HAS AN AREA THAT WAS FORMERLY SET ASIDE, I THINK, FOR SCRUB-JAY HABITAT, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MANAGED PROPERLY.
SO ANYWAY, YEAH, I'M ON I'M ON THAT BOARD TOO.
AND I THINK THERE WAS LIKE FOUR PARKS THAT WERE PICKED.
I THINK ONE WAS LIKE FRED POPPY WHERE THERE WAS ALREADY TENNIS COURTS AND STUFF.
BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE'S PROBABLY 1 OR 2 THAT WAS VERY WOODED.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BRINGING REALLY BEING BROUGHT TO LIGHT WITH THE STATE PARK SYSTEMS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I'D BE INTERESTED IN AND MAYBE WE CAN SEE ABOUT.
WOULD YOU SAY CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON OUR CONSERVATION LANDS OR.
YEAH. IS THAT LIKE A WOULD IT BE SPECIFIC PARTS THAT ARE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY OR CONSERVATION VERSUS THE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF OPEN, LIKE FRED POPPY PARK OBVIOUSLY HAS TREED AREAS AND STUFF, BUT.
YOU ALL KNOW HER? SHE'S, YOU KNOW, VERY GOOD AT JUDGING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
YEAH, WE COULD ASSIGN THAT TO HER.
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CAN WE DO THAT? OKAY.I HAVE A QUESTION. IS NEMO GARDEN IN THAT EASEMENT CATEGORY? BECAUSE THEY HAVE CITY GAS LINES? NO. YEAH.
SO NO, NEMO GARDEN HAS UTILITY EASEMENTS.
RIGHT. AND I'M SURE IT HAS STORMWATER EASEMENTS AND OTHER CITY TYPE THINGS.
RIGHT. FOR FOREVER AND EVER IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
IT'S LIKE RIGHT NOW THERE'S PLENTY OF CITY PROPERTIES THAT ARE GREEN SPACE.
THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, OLD ZONING.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S PARK ZONING, MAYBE IT'S NOT INSTITUTIONAL.
SO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE, RIGHT? THE CITY EVER SOLD THOSE PARCELS? REMEMBER, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN THE CITY WAS SELLING A LOT OF PROPERTY THAT THAT STOPPED.
WE WOULD HAVE TO KIND OF ALSO BALANCE OUT FROM A BIG PICTURE CITY PERSPECTIVE.
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT RESILIENCY AND WE THINK ABOUT FLOODING, AND WHAT DOES THE WORLD LOOK LIKE AROUND HERE IN 20 YEARS? THAT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE IN A MANDATORY CONNECTION STATE NOW, WE CAN BRING WATER AND SEWER.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY NEEDS IN THE FUTURE.
SO WE COULD PROBABLY FIND SOME.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE NEMO GARDEN IS ONE OF THEM.
I THINK NEMO IS JUST LIKE A REGULAR ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE A PARK SITE AND NEVER DEVELOPED IN THAT WAY, EXCEPT FOR WHAT YOU KNOW IS OUT THERE OR WAS OUT THERE. ARE YOU GOING TO ADD, ERIC? I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I WAS THINKING WHEN YOU GUYS WERE TALKING, I DO KNOW OF A COUPLE AREAS THAT ARE THE CITY OWNS THAT WE DO HAVE CONSERVATION AREAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WON'T EVER BE DEVELOPED ON.
MOST OF THEM ARE OVER IN THE TURKEY CREEK AREA.
WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT OF THAT.
I KNOW ONE OF THEM OFFHAND IS 63 ACRES OVER THERE THAT WE OWN.
THAT'S CONSERVATION AND PRESERVE.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME OF THEM THAT AREN'T EVEN DESIGNATED AS PARKS.
THEY'RE JUST CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE AS CONSERVATION AREA.
OKAY, COULD WE ADD THIS TO OUR AGENDA? I THINK THAT IS SUCH AN EXCELLENT IDEA.
AND ABOUT TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND THEN MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL AFTER WE DO IT THOROUGHLY ABOUT THAT PERPETUAL CONSERVATIVE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.
I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION WE COULD ACCOMPLISH.
BUT THAT WON'T BE A NEXT MONTH THING.
SO I'D SAY I CAN WORK WITH STAFF.
WE'LL MAYBE PUT THAT OUT 2 OR 3 MEETINGS EVEN.
ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE ADDING ON TO OUR LIST AS WELL.
SO JUST TO PACE IT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
THAT'S FINE. IT'S JUST MY WAY OF WE GOT A LOT.
WE'RE COMMITTING TO A LOT HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO FORGET MYSELF AND I WANT TO STAY VERY MOTIVATED.
I THINK THERE'LL BE MORE OF A LONG TERM PROJECT TOO.
HOPEFULLY NOT TOO LONG, BUT A LONGER PROJECT.
WE DO SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT IN OUR ACTION PLAN AS WELL, SO MAYBE THAT CAN BE PRIORITY NUMBER TWO.
YEAH. WELL ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, INFORMATION, ANYTHING FROM STAFF OR CITY? Y'ALL JUST WANT TO LEAVE? I'M JUST KIDDING. WELL, THANK YOU ALL AGAIN FOR ALL Y'ALL DO.
AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A LOT THAT IS GOING ON AND WE'RE GOING TO NOT SHUFFLE.
WE WON'T THROW IT TOGETHER LAST MINUTE.
IT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. WE'RE GOING TO BE ON TIME.
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TOGETHER. YUP.
GOING TO MAKE A PLAN AND STICK TO IT.
EXCITED ABOUT IT. IT'S EXCITING.
FOLLOW UP. THAT'S A GOOD CALL.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU DO.
AND THE GREAT DISCUSSION, I THINK VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING AND GOOD VISION COMING OUT.
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CITY. AND WITH THAT, I CAN TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.WHO WANTS TO DO IT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO ADJOURN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND.
SECOND. WITH NO OBJECTIONS, WE STAND ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.