Sep 19, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

THE NEXT ITEM IS STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM 16.

UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND ITEM EIGHT UNDER CONSENT AGENDA BE CONTINUED TO THE OCTOBER 17TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

ALSO, ITEM FIVE UNDER CONSENT AGENDA IS REQUESTED TO BE CONTINUED TO THE OCTOBER 3RD REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.

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SO THAT IS ITEM 16.

ITEM EIGHT UNDER CONSENT AND ITEM FIVE IN UNDER CONSENT.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE. IT PASSES FOUR ZERO.

NEXT MAN.

CONSIDERATION OF TRAVEL AND TRAINING FOR SPECIFIED CITY EMPLOYEES.

SPECIFICALLY, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

NO, SIR. YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING? ANY AGENDA? REVISIONS? NO, SIR. OKAY, MA'AM.

MA'AM. MADAM SMITH.

WOULD YOU TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW BEFORE WE BEGIN EVEN PROCLAMATIONS.

SIR, YOU'RE ASKING ME TO RATE THE DECORUM STATEMENT? YES, MA'AM. THE CITY COUNCIL PERMITS AND ENCOURAGES COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC TO PRESERVE ORDER AND DECORUM.

THE FOLLOWING RULES APPLY.

PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IF YOU WISH TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO FILL OUT A CARD AND GIVE IT TO THE CLERK WHEN CALLED.

GO TO THE PODIUM.

SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

EACH PERSON SHALL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES AND ONLY ALLOWED TO SPEAK ONCE WHEN ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL.

DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.

SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE SHALL REFRAIN FROM SHOUTING, USING THREATENING LANGUAGE AND VIOLATING RULES OF ORDER, INCLUDING FOR AGENDA ITEMS, LIMITING YOUR COMMENTS TO THE SUBJECT OF THE ITEM BEING ADDRESSED.

VIOLATION OF THESE RULES MAY RESULT IN THE ISSUANCE OF VERBAL WARNINGS IF VIOLATIONS CONTINUE.

VIOLATORS MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

A SPEAKER MAY NOT BE REMOVED MERELY BECAUSE THE CONTENT OF THE SPEECH IS NOT POLITICALLY PLEASING OR ACCEPTABLE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. SO WE ARE NOW IF ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE IS FOR PUBLIC HEARING 16 OR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FIVE AND SIX, THESE ITEMS HAVE BEEN CONTINUED AND WON'T BE CONSIDERED AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.

ANYONE. ALL RIGHT.

SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

YOU GOT A FULL HOUSE TODAY.

NATIONAL CIRCUIT. MICHELLE, SHARON AND STEPHANIE.

HIRST. MICHELLE.

STEPHANIE. OKAY, PERHAPS WE'LL JUST MOVE RIGHT ALONG AND GO STRAIGHT TO DANA POST.

117 COME ON UP AND BRING YOUR CREW.

OUTSTANDING. THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. PRISONER OF WAR.

MISSING IN ACTION.

RECOGNITION DAY SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2024.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS IN 1979, CONGRESS PASSED A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE OBSERVANCE OF NATIONAL POW MIA RECOGNITION DAY.

AND WHEREAS THE NATIONAL OBSERVANCE NOW TAKES PLACE ANNUALLY ON THE THIRD FRIDAY OF SEPTEMBER THIS YEAR.

SEPTEMBER 20TH.

WHEREAS SINCE 2011, THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS REQUIRED THAT THE POW MIA FLAG BE FLOWN CONTINUOUSLY OVER THE STATE BUILDINGS UNTIL MISSING MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES RETURN.

WHEREAS THE CHARLES F THOMAS FOR THE FOURTH AMERICAN LEGION POST 117 RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HOLDS AN ANNUAL RECOGNITION CEREMONY TO HONOR PRISONERS AND FORMER PRISONERS OF WAR AND THOSE MISSING IN ACTION.

AND WHEREAS IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PAY TRIBUTE TO PERSONNEL WHO NEVER RETURNED HOME FROM COMBAT IN DISTANT LANDS TO THOSE WHO SUFFERED AS PRISONERS OF WAR, AND TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY WHO HAVE DEFENDED OUR NATION.

AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CONTINUES TO SEARCH ARCHIVES, EXPLORE FOREIGN BATTLEFIELDS AND BURIAL SITES, INTERVIEW WITNESSES, AND OTHERWISE SEEK INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE MISSING FROM THE VIETNAM WAR, THE KOREAN WAR, THE COLD WAR, WORLD

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WAR TWO AND OTHER CONFLICTS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2024 AS PRISONERS OF WAR MIA RECOGNITION DAY IN PALM BAY AND URGE ALL OUR CITIZENS, ALL OUR RESIDENTS, TO OBSERVE THAT DAY OF HONOR AND REMEMBRANCE AND WITNESS HEREOF.

I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 20TH OR THIS 19TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2024.

MR.. STEP RIGHT UP.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MAYOR MEDINA, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING AMERICAN LEGION POST 117 AND OF COURSE, ALL OF OUR OTHER POSTS WITHIN PALM BAY CITY LIMITS.

I'D LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT IN REFERENCE TO THE AMERICAN LEGION STANCE ON THE POW MIA.

THE AMERICAN LEGION IS COMMITTED TO ACHIEVING A FULL ACCOUNTING OF ALL POW MIAS FROM THE GULF WAR, VIETNAM, COLD WAR, KOREAN WAR, AND WORLD WAR TWO.

THIS MEANS RETURNING LIVING POWS, THE REPATRIATION OF THEIR REMAINS, OR FINDING CONVINCING EVIDENCE WHY NEITHER OF THESE IS POSSIBLE.

THE AMERICAN LEGION SUPPORTS THE CONTINUED DECLASSIFICATION OF ALL POW MIA INFORMATION, THE STRENGTHENING OF JOINT COMMISSIONS WITH RUSSIA, NORTH KOREA AND CHINA, AND ADEQUATE RESOURCING OF INVESTIGATIVE EFFORTS AND FIELD OPERATIONS TO RESOLVE POW MIA ISSUES.

THE AMERICAN LEGION HAS ALSO WORKED CONTINUOUSLY WITH BOTH CONGRESS AND DOD TO IMPROVE THE POLICIES AND PROGRAMS FOR THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF MISSING PERSONS. THIS INCLUDES URGING THE PRESIDENT AND THE CONGRESS TO FULLY FUND THE DEFENSE POW MIA ACCOUNTING OFFICE FOR ITS CURRENT AND FUTURE MISSION OF ENSURING THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF U.S.

SERVICE MEMBERS.

THE AMERICAN LEGION WILL CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT AND EXERT MAXIMUM PRESSURE ON BOTH THE ADMINISTRATION AND ON CONGRESS TO FULLY ACCOUNT FOR AMERICAN POW MIAS.

THE DEFENSE POW MIA ACCOUNTING AGENCY HAS BROUGHT HOME RECENTLY TWO OF OUR BROTHERS IN ARMS. SEPTEMBER 9TH ARMY CORPORAL BILLY CHARLES DRIVER, WHO WAS 18, FROM DALLAS, TEXAS, WHICH WHICH ALSO MARKED THE 700TH MISSING PERSONNEL FROM THE KOREAN WAR.

HE DIED SEPTEMBER 5TH, 1950, THE BATTLE OF PUSAN PERIMETER.

AND JUST RECENTLY HERE WITHIN BREVARD COUNTY.

SEPTEMBER 12TH US ARMY CORPORAL LEO L BOLOTSKY WAS BURIED IN THE CAPE CANAVERAL NATIONAL CEMETERY AFTER 82 YEARS LATER, DURING WORLD WAR TWO, HE WAS.

HE ENDURED THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH AND DIED OF DIPHTHERIA.

MAY WE TODAY WE REMEMBER THOSE THAT WE BROUGHT HOME AND HONOR THEM, AND THEN ALSO BRING HOME THE ONES THAT ARE STILL MISSING TODAY. THANK YOU.

A COUNCIL. LADIES IN THE MIDDLE.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. IS MICHELLE HERE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

[PRESENTATIONS:]

OKAY. WE ARE NOW.

WE ARE NOW ON PRESENTATIONS.

MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE GABRIEL BOWDEN, OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, AND I'M ALSO PLEASED TO SEE HOW MANY OF HIS TEAM HAVE SHOWED UP TONIGHT TO TO REPRESENT.

SO YEAH.

GREAT JOB.

THANKS, GUYS. RAN OUT OF MONEY SO I DON'T KNOW.

HEY, HEY, CAN THEY JUST ALL STAND SO WE GET A BETTER PICTURE? LOOK AT THAT.

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LOOK AT THAT. HEY, THAT'S YOUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

OUTSTANDING, OUTSTANDING.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT AND REPRESENT THE GREAT MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT'S MY GREAT HONOR.

SORRY TO REPRESENT THESE MEN AND WOMEN, AND I HOPE I'M ABLE TO DO THEM JUSTICE TONIGHT.

WE'VE GOT FIVE TOPICS TO LOOK OVER TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT, LOOK AT SOME OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, SOME KEY UPDATES ON PROJECTS, REGULATORY UPDATES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO KNOW, AND ALSO LOOK AT SOME CRITICAL DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS.

FIRST, WE HAVE 188 BUDGETED EMPLOYEES IN SIX DIFFERENT DIVISIONS IN THE WATER DEPARTMENT.

AND LAST JULY WE WERE RECOGNIZED AND DESIGNATED AS ESSENTIAL FIRST RESPONDERS.

WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT DESIGNATION AND RECOGNITION OF WHAT WE DO DURING ALL EVENTS AND ALL TIMES DURING THE YEAR.

WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE ON TWO A REGIONAL WATER AND WASTEWATER ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, AS WELL AS A PUMP STATION NEAR THE MIDDLE OF TOWN.

AT THE NORTH, WE HAVE A LIME SOFTENING WATER TREATMENT PLANT, A CONVENTIONAL ACTIVATED SLUDGE WASTEWATER PLANT, A WASTEWATER RECLAMATION FACILITY AND AN ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IN THE SOUTH, WE HAVE A REVERSE OSMOSIS WATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND SOON IN APRIL OF NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE A WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY READY AND UP AND RUNNING.

SOME ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IS OUT IN THE DISTRIBUTION AND COLLECTION SYSTEM.

WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND MILES OF MAIN ACROSS THOSE THREE AREAS.

WE HAVE OVER 7000 VALVES, 3200 OR SO FIRE HYDRANTS AND 5000 MANHOLES AND 131 LIFT STATIONS THAT WE MAINTAIN.

AGING INFRASTRUCTURE IS AN ISSUE FOR US.

THIS IS A COUPLE OF BAD EXAMPLES, GOOD EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE MAINTAIN.

THIS IS A PUMP HOUSE LIFT A LIFT STATION, PUMP HOUSING AND A WATER MAIN BREAK THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE LAST YEAR, SIR.

I'M NOT GOING TO. I'M NOT GOING TO TOLERATE A BREACH THERE.

OH, AS YOU WERE.

CARRY ON.

SO IN MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF KEY ACTIVITIES WE DO.

THIS IS NOT ALL ENCOMPASSING, BUT I THINK IT WILL GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT THESE MEN AND WOMEN DO ON A DAILY BASIS.

OVER. WE AVERAGE ABOUT 1800 INSPECTIONS ON FIRE HYDRANTS EVERY YEAR.

1700 INSPECTIONS ON VALVES ARE LOCATE TEAM LOCATES 3200 LOCATE TICKETS A MONTH.

ON AVERAGE LAST YEAR ALMOST 40,000 LOCATE TICKETS TO GIVE A SCALE TO THAT.

SOME OF THOSE LOW LOCATE TICKETS CAN TAKE FIVE MINUTES.

SOME OF THOSE LOCATE TICKETS CAN TAKE DAYS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT AND WHAT INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE IN THAT AREA.

OUR FIELD SERVICE MEMBERS, OUR METER READERS PERFORM OVER 3000 WORK ORDERS EVERY MONTH.

LAST YEAR, OVER 40,000 WORK ORDERS WERE PERFORMED.

OUR CUSTOMER CARE PEOPLE AND OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AREA TAKE OVER 5000 CALLS EACH MONTH.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY'RE TAKING WALK INS, RESPONDING TO EMAILS, RESPONDING TO MAIL CORRESPONDENCE.

WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF ACTIVITY THAT TAKES PLACE THERE.

WE HAVE OVER 1500 OR EXCUSE ME, 1200 LIFT STATION INSPECTIONS DONE EACH YEAR FOR OUR 131 LIFT STATIONS.

AND WE PERFORM OVER 1730FT OF INSPECTIONS AND CLEANING ON OUR SEWER MAINS.

SOME UPDATES TO SOME KEY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THREE OUR WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN, WATER PLANT EXPANSIONS AND WASTEWATER PLANT EXPANSIONS.

THE WASTEWATER AND WATER MASTER PLANS ARE DONE ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS.

WE RECENTLY HAD ONE COMPLETED.

IT WILL BE COMING TO THE COUNCIL IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

THESE EVALUATE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM.

THEY LOOK AT IDENTITY, THEY IDENTIFY CAPITAL PROJECTS, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT WHAT OUR GROWTH MIGHT LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.

THESE RANGES FROM FIVE, TEN AND 20 YEARS.

LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE, WHAT WE CAN EXPECT AND WHAT WE CAN BE LOOKING FOR.

THE LAST MASTER PLAN WAS DONE IN 2017 FOR WATER.

THE MASTER PLAN INDICATES THAT WE'LL GO FROM 442,000 CUSTOMERS IN 2024 TO 52,000 CUSTOMERS, A GROWTH OF 10,000 IN 5 YEARS.

FOR COMPARISON, SPEAKING FROM 2014 TO 2024, WE GREW ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF CUSTOMERS, SO WE'RE EXPECTING.

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AS EVERYONE HAS ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WITH ALL OTHER PRESENTATIONS, LOTS OF GROWTH.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME AND I NEED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ALWAYS PROVIDING FOR OUR CUSTOMERS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT OUR WATER PRODUCTION.

SO HOW ARE WE DOING? THE AWA HAS STANDARDS ON JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.

ONE OF THE STANDARDS THAT THEY HAVE IS ON HOW MUCH WATER YOU'RE USING COMPARED TO WHAT YOUR YIELD IS.

THE STANDARD THEY HAVE IS A FIVE YEAR DAILY AVERAGE.

AND HOW MUCH OF YOUR USAGE ARE YOU AT ON A DAILY AVERAGE? SO IF YOU USE 36% OF YOUR DAILY DEMAND, A PART OF YOUR SUPPLY.

SO YOU'VE GOT ALMOST 64% REMAINING, THEN YOU ARE IN THE TOP PERCENTAGE.

YOU'RE IN THE 75 PERCENTILE.

THAT'S AWESOME.

LOTS OF EXTRA WATER.

IF YOU'RE IN THE MEDIAN, 52% IS WHERE YOU'D BE AT.

SO YOU'D HAVE 48% ON A DAILY AVERAGE OVER THOSE FIVE YEARS.

THE 25TH PERCENTILE IS 68%.

LAST YEAR FOR PALM BAY, WE WERE AT 84%.

NOW WE'VE GOT A GREAT STORY TO TELL.

84% IS NOT GREAT, BUT WE'VE GOT A GREAT STORY TO TELL ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE FUTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE SUPPLY.

LAST YEAR OR THIS PAST YEAR, WE ADDED 2 MILLION GALLONS TO OUR SOUTH REGIONAL ROWE PLANT.

IN 2027, WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE ANOTHER 2 MILLION ON.

IN 28, WE'LL HAVE 3 MILLION AND A NEW ROWE PLANT IN THE NORTH, AND IN 2029, ADDING TWO MORE MILLION GALLONS EACH DAY AT THE NORTH AND AT THE SOUTH REGIONAL PLANTS.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN PROTECT OUR SAFE YIELD.

ONE WAY THAT WE CAN DO THAT IS THROUGH TARGETING NON-REVENUE WATER.

A QUICK EXPLANATION OF WHAT NON-REVENUE WATER IS, IS IF WE PRODUCE A THOUSAND GALLONS AT THE PLANT, YOU SHOULD SELL A THOUSAND GALLONS AT METERS. HOWEVER, NON-REVENUE WATER MEANS YOU DIDN'T SELL ALL OF THAT.

SO WHAT'S A GOOD NUMBER AND WHERE ARE WE AT? PALM BAY IS PRESENTLY AT ABOUT 17.7% NON-REVENUE WATER.

NOT TERRIBLE, BUT IT'S NOT WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

A LOT OF PLACES CAN BE AT 20, 30, EVEN 40% NON-REVENUE WATER.

WE WANT TO TARGET 12% NON-REVENUE WATER THAT WAY.

MORE OF WHAT WE PRODUCE IS BEING USED BY CONSUMERS RATHER THAN BEING LOST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT OUR NORTH WELL FIELDS.

THEY ARE OLD.

SOME OF THEM HAVE LOST CAPACITY.

BOB, OUR SUPERINTENDENT AT THE NORTH PLANT, HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF REHABBING THESE WELLS.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT SO THAT WE HAVE A SAFE YIELD YEAR AFTER YEAR.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT REPLACING SOME OF OUR WELLS THAT ARE NOW OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE OF ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OF WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND EXPLORING, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

IN ADDITION, WE'RE LOOKING AT RERATING OUR SOUTH ROWE PLANT, GOING FROM A $6 MILLION, 6 MILLION, 6 MILLION GALLON A DAY RATING TO 6.3 THAT WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE MONTHS AHEAD.

SO ALL OF THAT WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, WE HAVE PLANNED.

WE'RE AT 84% IN 2023.

THIS YEAR, WE'RE AT 71%.

THAT 2 MILLION GALLONS THAT WE ADDED THIS YEAR HAS MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR US.

AND BY 2029, WE WILL BE IN THAT MEDIAN PERCENTILE AT 50%, ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

WE'RE RIGHT IN THAT AREA.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT FUTURE AHEAD OF US AS IT RELATES TO OUR WATER SUPPLY.

SO FOR WASTEWATER, SEWER ACCOUNTS ARE EXPECTED TO GO FROM 21,000 TO 25,000IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AGAIN, ABOUT THE SAME GROWTH TOOK PLACE IN THE PREVIOUS TEN YEARS FOR WASTEWATER.

WE ARE EXPANDING.

WELL, WE'RE CREATING A NEW WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY IN THE SOUTH.

WE EXPECT THAT TO GO ONLINE IN APRIL OF 25 WITH 1 MILLION GALLONS A DAY FOLLOWED IN 26 BY ADDING ANOTHER MILLION GALLONS A DAY AND THEN TARGETING IN 2028 TO ADD A THIRD MILLION GALLON A DAY.

THE NORTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT.

WE ARE ALSO CONSIDERING REHABILITATION STUDY.

AS WE GET TO THE B MAP.

I'LL KIND OF EXPLAIN WHY WE NEED THAT STUDY AND WHY WE'RE KIND OF WAITING, BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING ON SOME CLARITY IN SOME AREAS.

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THIS IS AN ARTIST RENDERING OF THE SOUTH REGIONAL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY AT A TOTAL BUILD OUT.

WE CAN IF WE NEED TO, DESIGN UP TO 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AT THE SOUTH REGIONAL RECLAMATION FACILITY.

SO LET'S TURN OUR ATTENTION TO SOME REGULATORY UPDATES.

WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE MAP, THE BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN, LEAD AND COPPER REVISIONS, AS WELL AS PFAS REGULATIONS.

BASIN MANAGEMENT ACTION PLAN.

YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE. THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED BEFORE.

THIS IS JUST HIGH LEVEL.

WE ARE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COMPLIANT WITH IT.

SOME KEY POINTS.

AM I OUT OF TIME? CARRY ON SIR.

OKAY. KEY POINTS IS WE NEED TO REDUCE TOTAL NITROGEN AND PHOSPHORUS IN OUR TREATMENT PLANTS AND THROUGH SEPTIC SYSTEMS. IMPACTS TO THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS AS WE NEED TO FOR OUR REUSE PLANT.

WE NEED TO HAVE TOTAL NITROGEN AT LESS THAN TEN PARTS PER LITER OR MILLIGRAMS PER LITER FOR THE DEEP WELL INJECTION.

WE'RE SEEKING CLARITY ON THAT.

WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS IN THE EPA THAT ARE TELLING US TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

ONE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COMPLY.

THE OTHER, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THAT PART OF YOUR PLANT.

SO DEPENDING ON THE CLARITY THAT WE GET FROM THE EPA, THAT WILL GUIDE AND INFORM WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR REHABILITATION STUDY.

IMPACTS TO SEPTIC MANDATORY CONNECTION EFFORT IS UNDERWAY AND THAT WILL HELP AN AWFUL LOT WITH OUR OUR BMAP ACTION PLAN AND THEN THE SEPTIC TANK UPGRADES.

THERE ARE THERE'S ALSO OTHER CLARITY THAT'S COMING OUT WITH THAT.

AND WE CAN GO INTO MORE, MORE DETAIL.

BUT IF PEOPLE ARE DOING REPAIRS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME THAT THEY NEED TO REPLACE IT.

BUT WE'VE GOTTEN SOME CLARITY THAT ONLY AFTER 2030, IF YOU DO A REPAIR, DO YOU NEED TO REPLACE TO THE NEW ONE.

BUT IF YOU'RE REPLACING, YOU NEED TO REPLACE TO THE NEW NOW AND THEN WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR COLLECTION SYSTEM ACTION PLAN.

IT'S SEPARATE FROM THE BMAP, BUT IT'S TO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING STEPS TO MINIMIZE SANITARY SEWER OVERFLOWS IN THE COLLECTION SYSTEM. LEAD AND COPPER RULES HAVE BEEN ISSUED SINCE THE EARLY 19 OR THE IN THE 1980S, AND THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL REVISIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, AND MOST RECENTLY, IN 2021, THE EPA PUBLISHED THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISIONS.

SOME KEY THINGS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THAT, AND WHAT YOU'LL BE SEEING IN OCTOBER WILL BE PUBLISHING ON OUR WEBSITE SERVICE LINE INFORMATION FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE CUSTOMER SIDE. WE'LL BE PUBLISHING THAT INVENTORY.

WE'LL BE SENDING THAT INVENTORY TO THE EPA, AND WE'LL BE.

WE'RE DEVELOPING NOTIFICATIONS TO THOSE CUSTOMERS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR SIDE OF THE MATERIAL IS, TO LET THEM KNOW THAT ONE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT IT IS, AND TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT SOME OF THE DANGERS OF LEAD ARE.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.

THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE IMPROVEMENTS ARE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE IN THE LEAD AND COPPER RULE REVISIONS, AND KIND OF PULLING THEM OUT OF THAT AND LOOKING AT CHANGES TO THEM THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO START LOOKING AT IN 2027.

SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT IN ALL OF THOSE AREAS.

PFAS REGULATIONS IN APRIL 10TH OF 2024, THE EPA ANNOUNCED THEIR FINAL RULE ON FIVE PFAS CHEMICALS.

IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MONITORING AT ALL THE APPROPRIATE LOCATIONS FOR THESE CHEMICALS AND PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS. IF THEY ARE NOT, IF THEY'RE ABOVE THE MCL, THEN THEY HAVE TO HAVE CORRECTIONS TO THAT BY 2029.

NOW, THE GOOD THING IS, AS WE GO TO ROWE, THAT TAKES CARE OF ALL THE PFAS ISSUES.

SO WE'RE ALREADY KIND OF AHEAD OF THAT GAME.

GREAT NEWS.

SO WHAT ARE THOSE CHEMICALS AND WHAT ARE THE MCLS? SO FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION IS THE MCL FOR PFOA AND PFOS.

THERE IS LONG NAMES.

I'M NOT A SCIENTIFIC TYPE OF GUY.

I'M FROM INDIANA, SO I CAN'T PRONOUNCE THEM.

BUT THERE'S FOUR PARTS PER TRILLION.

NOW I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THAT LOOKS LIKE LOOKING FOR FOUR NEEDLES IN A 24 STORY HAYSTACK.

THAT'S AN AWFUL LOT OF HAY FOR JUST FOUR LITTLE SMALL NEEDLES.

SO IT'S NOT. IT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY SMALL AMOUNT.

IN FACT, IT'S ALMOST TO THE DETECTABLE LEVEL.

IT'S SO SMALL.

SO THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WILL BE SAMPLING FOR AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT FOR BY 2029.

SO I WANT TO ALSO NOW TURN OUR ATTENTION TO CRITICAL DEPARTMENT PRIORITIES.

LOOKING REALLY CLOSELY AT EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION PROJECT DELIVERY AND REGULATORY COMPLIANCE.

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EMPLOYEE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION IS REALLY MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN.

WE HAVE A GRAY WAVE THAT IS ABOUT TO CRASH OVER US.

WE HAVE 15 OR MORE EMPLOYEES WITH 20 YEARS OF SERVICE, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES WHO HAVE JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THEY RETIRED FROM ANOTHER UTILITY AND HAVE COME TO WORK AND HELP US.

IT'S REALLY BEEN A HUGE BLESSING TO HAVE THEM TO COME AND WORK FOR US.

BUT THERE'S A DAY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE RETIRING.

WE HAVE A NUMBER THAT ARE AT 30 YEARS OF SERVICE.

OUR TURNOVER RATE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, WE HAD 86 SEPARATIONS.

38 OF THOSE SEPARATIONS WERE FROM EMPLOYEES WHO WERE WITH US FOR LESS THAN ONE YEAR.

IN OUR DISTRIBUTION COLLECTIONS AND PLAN OPERATIONS, 62% OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THOSE AREAS HAVE LESS THAN FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

43% HAVE LESS THAN TWO YEARS EXPERIENCE.

THIS IS VERY TROUBLING TO ME.

IT TAKES TWO YEARS BEFORE SOMEONE WHO COMES IN TO WORK FOR US WITH NO EXPERIENCE.

FORGIVE ME. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE LESS THAN TWO YEARS, ADDRESS ME, SIR.

THEY THEY'RE NOT ADDING VALUE THAT YOU WOULD HOPE TO BE ADDING WITH LESS THAN TWO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

ABOUT 3 TO 5 YEARS EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE REALLY STARTING TO GET SOME GOOD USE OUT OF THEM, AND YOU WANT TO HAVE THEM FOR MUCH LONGER THAN THAT.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR TURNOVER RATE IS QUITE HIGH.

WE ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TURNDOWN RATE.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN OFFICIAL HR TERM.

IT'S MY TERM.

WE'VE OFFERED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE LAST YEAR.

31 APPLICANTS HAVE TURNED DOWN THE JOB OFFER FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER, OR HAVE BEEN REJECTED FOR THAT JOB AFTER THEY'VE ACCEPTED IT IN DISTRIBUTION. 13 EMPLOYEES AND PLANT OPERATIONS 18 EMPLOYEES.

THIS REALLY WILL COME TO LIGHT AS WE LOOK AT THE NEXT SLIDE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THIS IS THANKS TO YOU.

LAST WEEK YOU MADE MENTION ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR BEING UP FOR 30 DAYS AND HOW THAT WAS NOT GOOD.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS PURE GOLD FOR ME TODAY.

WE HAVE POSITIONS THAT HAVE A LOT MORE DAYS ON THEM THAN THAT.

NOW WE'VE HIRED PEOPLE FOR THESE POSITIONS, BUT THEY'VE BEEN CONTINUALLY POSTED BECAUSE WE'VE NOT BEEN FULLY STAFFED IN THOSE AREAS.

FIRST, UTILITIES TECHNICIAN HAS BEEN POSTED FOR OVER 200 DAYS.

SO FOR OVER 200 DAYS WE'VE NOT BEEN FULLY STAFFED WITH OUR FIELD UTILITY, WITH OUR UTILITY TECHNICIANS.

OUR WASTEWATER PLANT TRAINEE HAS BEEN POSTED FOR OVER 30 DAYS WITHOUT BEING FULLY FILLED.

AND MOST CONCERNING, BOB, WHO'S DOING ALL THIS GREAT WORK IN OUR NORTH WELL FIELD.

HE'S BEEN LOOKING FOR AN OPERATOR FOR 1200 DAYS THIS WEEK.

WE THOUGHT WE HAD THAT FILLED.

SORRY, I WAS GOING TO LOOK AT BOB.

SORRY, MR. MAYOR, BUT TUESDAY WE WERE NOTIFIED THAT THE PERSON WHO ACCEPTED THE JOB HAD TO TURN IT DOWN BECAUSE OF FAMILY PROBLEMS BACK IN NEW YORK.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES WITH THE GRAY WAVE TURNOVER, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR YOUNGER EMPLOYEES.

IF WE CAN'T GET THEM TO STAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REPLACE PEOPLE AS THEY RETIRE.

AND THEN THE TURN DOWN RATE.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO ADDRESS THIS? MR. MAYOR, I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT IT STARTS WITH LEADERSHIP.

ME AS A LEADER, I HAVE TO SET THE RIGHT TONE IN THE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR LEADERSHIP.

WE HAVE TO CREATE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE.

WE HAVE TO ENCOURAGE OUR LEADERS TO NOT GET INTO LEADERSHIP BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE IN CHARGE, BUT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE IN THEIR CHARGE.

WE WANT TO INVEST IN OUR LEADERSHIP, IN OUR LEADERS, SO THAT THEY'RE GROWING AND THEY'RE DEVELOPING SO THAT THEY'RE A BETTER LEADER TODAY THAN THEY WERE LAST YEAR.

IT'S EXTREMELY IMPERATIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND THAT THEY KNOW WE CARE ABOUT THEM.

I TELL THE STAFF ALL THE TIME, I'M NOT IN THE WATER BUSINESS, I'M IN THE PEOPLE BUSINESS.

I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT PEOPLE AND I WANT TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF CULTURE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IS VERY DEEP WITHIN WATER UTILITIES.

BUT THAT DOESN'T GET US EVERYWHERE WE NEED TO BE.

BUT IT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

WE ALSO HAVE TO EVALUATE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

WE HAVE TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GROW AND DEVELOP.

YOUNGER GENERATIONS WANT REWARDED QUICKER.

THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT TEN YEARS TO GO UP ONE POSITION.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN QUICKER AND DEVELOP THEM, AND ALSO BEGIN TO MAKE PATHWAYS FOR THOSE POSITIONS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RETIRE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS TO HAVE LEADERS RIGHT BEHIND THEM, READY TO GO IN ADVANCE.

AND FINALLY EVALUATING OUR COMPENSATION STRUCTURE AND WORK ENVIRONMENT.

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WE NEED TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE.

MANY TIMES PEOPLE ARE OFFERED THE JOB AND THEN SAY, WILL YOU GIVE ME $3 MORE? AND OUR ANSWER IS NO.

AND THEY SAY, WELL, I CAN'T TAKE THE JOB.

SO WE NEED TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE IF WE'RE GOING TO ATTRACT AND KEEP EMPLOYEES.

WE ALSO NEED TO MODERNIZE OUR EQUIPMENT, OUR TOOLS AND OUR TECHNOLOGIES AND OUR WORKSPACES TO SHOW OUR CARE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO WORK WELL INTO THE FUTURE.

SO THAT'S OUR NUMBER ONE CHALLENGE.

BUT WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT PROJECT DELIVERY.

HOW CAN WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE DELIVERING ON THESE PLANT EXPANSIONS, THAT THEY'RE COMING WHEN WE NEED THEM, AND THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TELL PEOPLE THAT, I'M SORRY, YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT ERC BECAUSE THE PLANT'S NOT READY.

WE CANNOT ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE HAVE TO DELIVER ON THESE PROJECTS.

ALSO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MEETING THESE REGULATORY COMPLIANCE, AND WE'RE DELIVERING THEM ON TIME WITHOUT ANY FAILURE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

SO THANK YOU, GABRIEL.

WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, THERE WAS A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'LL START.

AND I KNOW COUNCIL MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, BUT YOU'RE LOCATED.

HOW MANY TEAM MEMBERS GO OUT AND DO ALL THESE LOCATES.

LET ME SEE YOU GUYS. THERE'S FOUR OF THEM.

THERE'S. IT'S ONLY A FOUR MINUTE, SIR.

WELL, WE GOT WE HAVE FIVE.

I APOLOGIZE. A FOUR MAN OR A FIVE MAN TEAM.

WE GOT A FIVE FULL TIME GUYS AND ONE PART TIME GUY.

WOW. FIVE MAN TEAM DOES ALL THE LOCATES.

YES. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THE LEAD COPPERS, THOSE PIPES? YES. DO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION IS? IS THAT IN THE OLDER SECTION OF THE CITY? IT WOULD BE IN THE OLDER SECTION.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 1986 WHERE USING LEAD WAS OUTLAWED.

OKAY. WE HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING.

WE'VE INVESTIGATED OVER 4000 SERVICE LINES, HAVE FOUND NO LEAD LINES.

WE HAVE FOUND A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE OF GALVANIZED LINES.

HOWEVER WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TO FIND A LOT OF THAT.

OKAY. THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

AND IF SO, WE'LL PROVIDE THAT INVENTORY.

TO WHO? THE EPA, YOU SAID.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. WE WILL BE SUBMITTING AN A INVENTORY IN OCTOBER TO THE EPA AND ALSO PUBLISHING ON OUR WEBSITE SO CITIZENS CAN GO IN AND SEE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR LOCATION AND WHAT WE HAVE FOR OUR SIDE AND WHAT WE HAVE FOR THEIR SIDE.

AND WE WILL OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS, BE UPDATING THAT AND HAVING ALL OF THOSE IDENTIFIED.

PART OF THE LCRI IS SUBMITTING AN UPDATED INVENTORY LIST.

SO IT'S IT'S MY EXPECTATION AND MY GOAL THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT THAT WE HAVE ALL OF OUR SERVICE LINES IDENTIFIED.

OKAY. AND JUST WHEN THAT THAT OCCURS, ARE THERE ANY EPA GRANTS FOR OUR CITIZENS REGARDING THAT CONVERSION? YEAH, THERE ARE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AVAILABLE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TO LOOK AT THOSE AND GET THOSE TO YOU.

YEAH, WE SHOULD EXPLORE THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE PROVIDING THAT INVENTORY TO THE EPA.

YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THEN THE NEXT BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO COUNCIL, LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BOB.

YES. IN THE NORTH PLANT? YES. AND THE 1200.

THE 12 1200 DAYS PLUS THAT POSITION THAT WAS AWARDED AND RESCINDED BY THE APPLICANT? YEP. WAS THERE A REASON WHY HE DECIDED? DID HE GET ANOTHER JOB OR WAS IT A PAY ISSUE FOR THAT POSITION.

IT WAS A FAMILY EMERGENCY.

UNDERSTOOD. BACK WHERE THEY WERE COMING FROM.

OKAY. AND SO PREVIOUSLY.

WHAT HAS IT BEEN? IT'S BEEN 1200 DAYS.

YES. SO WHAT? WHAT WHAT? QUALIFIED APPLICANTS, FINDING QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND ALSO THE PAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO FOR THAT POSITION, 1200 DAYS, WE'VE HAD 25 APPLICANTS FOR THAT POSITION AND THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

THAT'S A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR IT.

SO WE'RE NOT ATTRACTING THEM.

AND WHY AREN'T WE ATTRACTING THEM? SO CULTURE IS GOING TO BE A PART OF THAT.

OKAY. AS I'M JUST BEING HONEST.

YES, SIR. I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT PEOPLE SAY THAT IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN THIS CITY OR THIS CITY, THEY'RE GOING TO CHOOSE THIS CITY.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.

WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT CULTURE.

THAT'S GREAT. BUT THE OTHER PART IS PAY MORE.

PATIENT IS PART OF THE CULTURE, TOO.

YEAH. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, SO I'M GONNA TEE IT OFF TO COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION MR. BOWDEN. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

JUST ONE CLARIFICATION ON SLIDE NINE.

THE MAIN CLEARING, THE CCTV INSPECTION.

YOU SAID IT WAS 17,300FT HERE.

IN ACTUALITY, IT'S IT'S 173,000FT A YEAR.

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IT'S OVER 30 MILES. THAT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

YES, THAT'S THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF ON SLIDE 15 HOW DO YOU PLAN ON REDUCING THE NON-REVENUE WATER USE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

TOMMY, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR HAS BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR WATER QUALITY TEAM AND OUR DISTRIBUTION TEAM TO FIND OUT WHERE WE HAVE DEAD ZONES AND WHERE WE'RE FLUSHING A LOT. AND HOW CAN WE MANAGE OUR SYSTEM? HOW CAN WE CHANGE THE FLOW OF WATER SO THAT WE'RE HAVING GOOD FLOW GO THROUGH AN AREA TO REDUCE HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO FLUSH.

SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WHERE DO WE WHERE DO WE HAVE LEAKS.

YOU KNOW, ARE WE ADDRESSING THOSE LEAKS IN A TIMELY MANNER? ARE WE FINDING ALL THE LEAKS THAT WE HAVE? THOSE ARE TWO KEY AREAS THAT WILL REALLY HELP US WITH NON-REVENUE WATER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION ON SLIDE 27.

THE 31 PEOPLE WHO TURNED DOWN OFFERS.

DID ANYONE INTERVIEW THEM TO FIND OUT WHY SPECIFICALLY? SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING I'M ASKING OF MY STAFF.

AS PEOPLE TURN DOWN JOBS OR PEOPLE LEAVE IS TO TO ASK THEM WHY THEY'RE LEAVING SO THAT WE CAN DEVELOP A MORE ROBUST DATABASE OF OF WHY PEOPLE ARE TURNING THOSE DOWN. WE DO HAVE INDICATIONS IN NEOGOV OF DIFFERENT WHY SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE TURN IT DOWN.

AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S BEEN BECAUSE OF PAY.

OKAY. UNDERSTOOD.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE SOMETIME HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE, SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND GETTING HIRING MORE QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND GETTING THEM TO STAY ON THE JOB.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

SO BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THAT'S ALL. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU SIR. AND COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING EACH DEPARTMENT CAN LOOK AT IF THE JOB IS TURNED DOWN THE Y.

SO THAT WAY WE CAN ADDRESS IT MOVING FORWARD.

THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, SIR, ARE YOU SEEING OR HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE PAST AN INCREASE IN CITIES REMOVING FLUORIDE FROM THEIR WATER? YES. THAT IS A TREND THAT'S HAPPENING.

A LOT OF COMMUNITIES ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT.

THE THE RANGE, THE TARGETED RANGE.

AND BOB COULD HELP ME WITH THIS.

HE'S GREAT AT THE NUMBERS ON THIS.

THE THE TARGETED RANGE OF 0.7 PARTS PER MILLILITER.

THERE'S STUDIES OUT THAT SHOW THAT JUST DOUBLE THAT CAN CAUSE RETARD CAN CAUSE IQ ISSUES WITH, WITH WITH CHILDREN.

YES, SIR. SO AND AGAIN SO FOR THAT IT'S, IT'S A DROP IN A 55 GALLON DRUM OF WATER OR TWO DROPS.

SO ONE DROP, IT'S ONE WAY.

MAYBE YOU'RE GOOD. TWO DROPS.

YOU'RE IMPACTING IQ.

YES, SIR. BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE.

I WAS I'VE BEEN DEBATING BACK AND FORTH ON BRINGING IT UP TO COUNCIL, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING LOOKING AT HOW IT AFFECTS PREGNANT WOMEN AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO CONSIDER LOOKING AT HAVING FLUORIDE REMOVED FROM THE WATER.

SO. NO.

WELL, NO, I'M I WAS RAISED WITH FLUORIDE.

I WOULDN'T BE. MY TEETH ARE GOOD.

WE GOT FLUORIDE IN OUR TOOTHPASTE.

I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S ENOUGH TO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THERE ARE DEFINITELY WAYS THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH SCHOOLS AND DIFFERENT PLACES TO DO FLUORIDE TREATMENTS ON TEETH.

THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS TO TO HELP PEOPLE GET FLUORIDE FOR THEIR TEETH, OTHER THAN PUT IT IN IN THE WATER SUPPLY.

YES, SIR. AND THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

YOU KNOW, CONGRATULATIONS ON A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DIRECTION OF THIS DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW IT WAS ONE OF OUR CONCERNS FOR A LITTLE BIT.

YOU CERTAINLY DISPLAY GREAT LEADERSHIP IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

I WELCOME THAT.

YOU SAID A FEW THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL.

YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THE PEOPLE BUSINESS, AND THAT THAT HIT HOME FOR ME.

BEING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS, RIGHT? I HAD TWO JOBS MY WHOLE LIFE.

I WORKED FOR A GREAT COMPANY, PUBLIX SUPERMARKET, AND I WORK IN BANKING.

PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT ARE THE TWO EYES YOU KNOW, TO DO WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT? SUPERMARKET BANKING.

PEOPLE AT THE BASE OF IT COME IN.

THE DENOMINATOR IS PEOPLE.

SO SO I UNDERSTAND YOU TALK ABOUT CULTURE AND THIS IS CRITICAL.

YOUR PEOPLE IS THE HEARTBEAT OF YOUR OF YOUR BUSINESS.

WHATEVER YOU'RE IN, YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM.

THEY'LL DO RIGHT BY US, THEY'LL DO RIGHT BY YOU, AND WE ALL WILL BE SATISFIED.

OUR RESIDENT WILL BE SATISFIED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. BUT I WANT TO MENTION THE AREA OF OF HIRING.

I KNOW SOME OF THESE SKILL SETS.

THEY ARE VERY SPECIFIC.

ARE YOU TAPPING INTO YOUR RESOURCES, YOUR YOUR HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS? ALL WE HAVE IN CONVERSATION WITH EASTERN FLORIDA.

I'VE, I'VE OFTEN MENTIONED I FELT LIKE THIS IS ONE INSTITUTION.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING OUR VALUE OUT OF IF EASTERN FLORIDA IS HEARING ME.

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YOU KNOW, ARE WE GETTING OUR BEST VALUE OUT OF THIS INSTITUTION HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY? SO IS THERE IS THERE A CONSTANT COMMUNICATION OR ARE YOU REACHING OUT TO THEM FIT.

SO WHERE WE CAN FOSTER SOME SORT OF PROGRAM OR BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP, CREATE A PIPELINE FOR WHAT WE NEED SO WE DON'T HAVE SUCH A HARD TIME BESIDES MONEY.

MONEY IS NOT THE ONLY DRIVER, RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE A GREAT CULTURE, WE CAN IMPROVE THE PAY, BUT HAVING THE AVAILABILITY.

SO IF WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TO PULL FROM, IT'S GOING TO BE HARD, RIGHT? SO ARE WE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS? IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

IN THREE MONTHS, I HAVE NOT HAD THAT CONVERSATION YET.

WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS OF HOW WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST AND HOW WE MIGHT DO THAT MOVING FORWARD, NOT ONLY WITH THE HIGHER EDUCATION LEARNING, BUT REALLY WHERE WE NEED TO FOCUS IS ON ON HIGH SCHOOLERS.

WE NEED TO GET THEM THERE.

YOU CAN BE A WATER OPERATOR WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO COLLEGE, AND YOU CAN BE IT CAN BE A GREAT CAREER.

YOU CAN HAVE A GREAT CAREER IN THE WATER INDUSTRY WITHOUT EVER HAVING TO GO TO COLLEGE.

COME ON. SO HE'S IN HERITAGE.

HERITAGE OF A PROGRAM OF SOME SORT? I BELIEVE HERITAGE. THEY DO HAVE A THEY PARTNER WITH WHAT IS IT? SHAPES. YEAH.

SO NOT NOT HERITAGE.

BAYSIDE IS IT? IT'S BAYSIDE OR BAYSIDE.

SO WE WE CERTAINLY I WOULD CERTAINLY IS THE HERITAGE, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. AND WE DO HAVE ONE OPERATOR WHO'S GOT, I THINK, 4 OR 5 YEARS THAT CAME THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.

AND SHE'S AN AWESOME OPERATOR, AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HER.

I THINK, YEAH, WE WE SHOULD FOSTER THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.

LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION.

SEE? HOW CAN WE ENCOURAGE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE? THERE GOES A PATHWAY, RIGHT? NOT TWO YEARS OR FOUR YEARS.

COLLEGE. NOT FOR EVERYBODY.

THAT'S RIGHT. AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE.

WE HAVE A NEED. LET'S JUST FILL THIS POSITION.

BUT IT STARTS WITH A CONVERSATION.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO BRING BRING THE CONVERSATION FORWARD.

IF COUNCIL CAN HELP IN FOSTERING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH A LETTER OR SOMEWHAT SOMETIMES THE SCHOOL BOARD MOVE A LITTLE BIT SLOWER.

AND LET'S DO THAT.

THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU SIR.

NO THANK YOU.

IN 90 DAYS YOU REALLY COME THROUGH AND I THINK YOU HIT SOME KEY POINTS.

BUILDING A CULTURE TAKES TIME.

YES, SIR. AND HITTING THESE KEY FACETS IS, IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME, BUT YOU'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

THEN THE SECOND THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS YOU'RE SPOT ON.

WHERE CREATING A TRADE, CREATING A SPECIFIC SKILL SET IS CRITICAL.

AND IF WE COULD GET HIGH SCHOOLERS ON BOARD.

AND WHEN I SAID SHAPES AND BAYSIDE, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT LIGHT MANUFACTURING WHERE THEY BUILD FOR THE F 35, WHICH THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. BUT IF WE COULD CONTINUE TO PARTNER, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT DEPUTY MAYOR SAID.

I THINK THAT'S SPOT ON.

WE DON'T NEED TO GO TO HIGHER EDUCATION.

YOU'RE BUILDING THAT INDUSTRY HERE.

SO I REALLY COMMEND YOU IN YOUR IN JUST 90 DAYS, YOU'VE COME UP WITH THIS OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION AND IDENTIFYING WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT.

NOW, MY MADAM SHERMAN HE MENTIONED ABOUT BUILDING THAT CULTURE GETTING OUT TO RECRUIT.

THERE'S SO MANY THINGS.

WHAT WHAT CAN WE DO AS A COUNCIL TO SUPPORT YOU AND AND THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT GOING DOWN THAT RANGE? WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.

GABRIEL'S GOT A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.

MANY OF THOSE ARE THINGS HE CAN IMPLEMENT WITHOUT NEEDING TO COME TO COUNCIL.

JUST, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE SCENES THINGS HE'S GOING TO DO TO IMPROVE THE CONDITIONS AND THE SITUATION.

BUT WHEN WE BRING YOU ITEMS THAT ARE RELATED TO THE GROWTH OF THE DEPARTMENT AND THE NEEDS OF THE DEPARTMENT, CERTAINLY HIS INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED TONIGHT IS TO PREPARE YOU FOR THOSE ASKS WHEN THEY COME IN THE FUTURE.

SO AND THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND IS ALL I.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU AGAIN GABRIEL.

OUTSTANDING JOB. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. AND TO THE ENTIRE TEAM.

WAY TO GO. SO? SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OH, SORRY. I WAS ENGROSSED IN SOMETHING ELSE.

WE WERE BEFORE THE COMMENTS.

MR. ROBINSON, WOULD YOU PLACE THAT BACK UP ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE? OKAY. DECORUM.

THE DECORUM, PLEASE.

WHAT IS UTILITIES ABOUT TO SECURE? SO LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS WHILE UTILITIES SECURES CARRY ON.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I'M RECONVENING THIS MEETING.

ATTENTION TO DETAIL, PLEASE.

SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING THE PRESENTATION, CORRECT?

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

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IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.

CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THAT INDIVIDUAL? MR. BATTEN? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. AFTER GOING THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, I SAW IT TOOK.

I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GOT IT IN THE AGENDA PACKET BECAUSE THEN I CAN REVIEW IT WITHOUT HAVING TO ASK QUESTIONS PRIOR.

RIGHT. THE FIRST QUESTION WAS UNDER GPL CLARITY SEEKING WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ASK FOR.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO SAY, WELL, WE CAN PUT IT DOWN TO DEEP WELL, NO, WE CAN'T PUT IT DOWN TO DEEP WELL.

BUT I'M TRYING TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT ANYTHING WE PUT DOWN A DEEP WELL INJECTION FOR ANY WATER THAT WE PUT DOWN, THE DEEP WELL INJECTION, THAT IS WATER THAT IS NON-RECOVERABLE FOR US.

SO EVENTUALLY YOU COULD HAVE A SHORTFALL ON WATER.

I'M GOING TO BRING THAT UP LATER.

THE OTHER SIDE ABOUT THAT IS THE NON THE FACT THAT IT CANNOT BE RECOVERED.

WHEN YOU EVENTUALLY DO HAVE A SHORTAGE, THERE WILL BE NO WATER AVAILABLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY AND YOU WASTED THAT.

ITEM NUMBER TWO WAS SCATTER LOTS UNDER.

LOOKING AT THE PRESENTATION, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AND WE'RE RUNNING WATER AND SEWER PAST THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 30, 60 YEARS THAT DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER, AND WE'RE RUNNING LINES RIGHT PAST THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS PAYING FOR IT.

THE CITY. THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE THREE RESPONSIBILITIES POLICE, FIRE AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE THE ONLY THREE RESPONSIBILITIES YOU HAVE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT YET YOU'RE BYPASSING THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE PAYING.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.

YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THEM FOR THE SCATTER LOTS, BECAUSE WE'RE WALKING RIGHT PAST THEM.

AND IT'D BE EASY FOR YOU TO RUN SOME MORE LINES.

ITEM NUMBER TWO WAS THAT I SEE NO NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN ON SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY ON THE SOUTH.

RIGHT. ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE WATER AND SEWER GETTING TO THEM.

AND PART OF THAT IS COUNTY.

I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING WITH IT.

I JUST SAW TODAY, I WENT OUT THERE TO LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE LONG MOUNTAIN MICHAEL RODE, AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF STUFF THERE, BUT WE AREN'T GETTING THE SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY, SO WE'RE GOING TO END UP PROVIDING NEW DEVELOPMENT WHEN WE HAD 60.

WE HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 60 YEARS THAT STILL DON'T HAVE WATER AND SEWER, WHICH IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU NEED TO SUPPLY.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.

I ALSO APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO POINT SOME OF THESE THINGS OUT THAT ARE LONG RANGE, BUT IS IMPACTING ON THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY.

I PERSONALLY NEVER WANT CITY WATER OR CITY SEWER, BUT I LIVE ON A FARM AND THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT OTHER RESIDENTS WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING THAT BECAUSE IT IS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.

IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN BRING UP GABRIEL TO ADDRESS THOSE.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

SO, SPEAKING FIRST TO THE SCATTERED LOTS THERE ARE DIFFERENT GRANTS AVAILABLE THAT I'VE BEEN LEARNING ABOUT, AS I'VE BEEN SITTING IN COUNCIL AND HEARING CUSTOMERS OR CITIZENS CONCERNS, I'VE BEEN EXPLORING DIFFERENT OPTIONS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN EVEN MORE DETAIL OF WHAT WE CAN DO TO START TO EXPAND. BEING ABLE TO GET INTO SOME OF THOSE SCATTERED LOTS WITH MAINS SOME OF IT MIGHT BE THROUGH WASTEWATER AND THEN BE ABLE TO PIGGYBACK ON WATER. SO WE ARE MAKING THAT AN EARNEST OBJECTIVE TO LOOK AT AND BEGIN TO FIND FUNDING SOURCES FOR, FOR THAT THE DEEP WELL INJECTION.

JUST A LITTLE POINT OF CLARITY THERE.

AT THE NORTH WITH THE NORTH PLANT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE RULE IS, WE'LL BE INJECTING THE WATER INTO THE DEEP WELL INJECTION.

IT'S JUST ON WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN DO IT AT OUR CURRENT LEVELS, OR IF WE HAVE TO REDUCE THOSE LEVELS TO TEN PARTS OR NOT.

SO. AND TO MR. BATTEN'S POINT IN TEXAS, WHERE I CAME FROM, WE HAD TO PRODUCE THE WATER TO SUCH A CLARITY THAT WE COULD PUT IT BACK INTO THE STREAMS BECAUSE IT WAS REUSED AN AWFUL LOT.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN FLORIDA.

IT'S A DIFFERENT IT'S A DIFFERENT ECOSYSTEM THAN WHAT I'VE BEEN USED TO IN THE PAST.

SO WE'LL WORK ON THE SCATTERED LOTS AND TRYING TO FIND AVAILABLE FUNDING TO DO SO.

THANK YOU. YEP.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

TOM. RYBNIK.

RYBNIK. RYBNIK.

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RYBNIK. MY HANDWRITING IS PRETTY.

GREAT. TOM DICKEY.

130 MALABAR ROAD.

MY SOLE PURPOSE OF SPEAKING TONIGHT IS MERELY TO PROVIDE MY HUMBLE OPINION AND PERSPECTIVE OF THE STATE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, DUE TO RECENT COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. I'M UNDER NO ILLUSION THAT MY STATEMENTS COULD BE CONSIDERED BIASED BY SOME DUE TO MY CURRENT POSITION, OR THAT THEY ARE THE OPINIONS OF EVERYONE.

I DO BELIEVE, HOWEVER, BASED ON MY OWN OBSERVATIONS, MY DAILY INTERACTIONS WITH MANY OF OUR SWORN CIVILIAN MEN AND WOMEN OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, NEIGHBORING AGENCIES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS WITHIN OUR CITY, THAT MUCH OF WHAT I SPEAK TO IS A SHARED SENTIMENT WITH THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS.

DURING THAT TIME, I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK IN SOME CAPACITY IN EVERY DIVISION AND NEARLY EVERY UNIT OUR AGENCY HAS TO OFFER.

THIS HAS GIVEN ME THE ABILITY OF PERSPECTIVE OF THIS AGENCY FROM MANY VIEWS SINCE 2001.

I'VE WORKED FOR SEVEN DIFFERENT CHIEFS OF POLICE TO INCLUDE OUR CURRENT CHIEF, MARY OGLE.

FEEL THE MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC TO DISCUSS IS CHANGES I'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, WITH THE FOCUS ON THE WELLNESS OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

THESE CHANGES ARE DUE TO THE LEADERSHIP OF CHIEF AJELLO, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT RECEIVED FROM CITY COUNCIL AND CITY MANAGEMENT.

THE WELLNESS OF OUR CITY EMPLOYEES HAS BEEN AND CONTINUES TO BE A PRIORITY FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.

WHILE THESE EFFORTS STARTED BEFORE CHIEF AJELLO, HE HAS BUILT ON IT AND HAS GROWN OUR WELLNESS PROGRAM LEAPS AND BOUNDS FURTHER THAN MANY AGENCIES, NOT ONLY LOCALLY BUT BEYOND.

I'VE SEEN HIM CONSTANTLY REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES AND THEIR TIME OF NEED AND OFFER ASSISTANCE.

HE REACHED OUT TO INDIVIDUALS OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT CAN HELP, ASSISTING OUR TEAM FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

SEEK HIS ADVICE AND INSIGHT TO HELP BUILD THEIR WELLNESS PROGRAM LIKE OURS.

HE IDENTIFIES WHEN PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH TRAUMATIC EVENTS OR ARE GOING THROUGH A CRISIS, AND AT THE VERY LEAST LETS THEM KNOW THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE.

DUE TO TRULY CARING FOR OTHERS, PEOPLE KNOW THAT THE THINGS HE SAYS ARE ROOTED IN HIS PERSONAL BELIEFS AND JUST NOT A FACADE LADEN WITH CATCHY PHRASES.

EXAMPLE OF CULTURAL CHANGE WHEN IT COMES TO THE WELLNESS IN CHIEF.

EXECUTIVES TENURE WAS WHEN FELLOW EMPLOYEES SPOKE UP ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS.

THAT PERSON NEEDED ASSISTANCE.

THAT IS A MAJOR SHIFT OF WHAT, SADLY, WAS THE NORM IN THE PAST.

IT HAS CREATED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK UP WHEN THEY FEEL SOMEONE WAS IN NEED.

THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS KNOWN THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO PROVIDE THAT INDIVIDUAL WITH THE SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE THEY NEED.

THE VAST MAJORITY KNOWS THAT HE DOES CARE ABOUT THEM.

THAT IS NOT SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED OVERNIGHT, BUT IS ACCOMPLISHED BY CONSISTENTLY DOING WHAT IS RIGHT WITH THE BEST INTENTIONS.

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS AS PEOPLE ARE NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

BY CARRYING YOURSELF.

AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER, ONE UNDERSTANDS THAT AT ALL TIMES AT ALTHOUGH AT TIMES THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES TO YOUR ACTIONS THAT ARE NOT DESIRABLE.

ASSISTING WITH YOUR WELL-BEING WHILE EMPLOYED HERE AND AFTER ARE ALSO PART OF THE EQUATION.

NEITHER ARE TAKEN LIGHTLY OR ARE ARBITRARY.

SHE LEADS A DEPARTMENT THAT IS NOT A DIVIDED ONE.

IT IS NOT A DEPARTMENT WITH BLIND LOYALTY TO A PERSON OR A POSITION ONE HOLDS OR IS HELD.

THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS, SO FORGIVE ME IF I DON'T DO ANYTHING INAPPROPRIATE WAY.

MR. NICHOLAS, FRIENDS.

JUST SPEAK TO THE MIC AND YOU JUST DIRECT IT TOWARDS ME.

SIR NICHOLAS FRANS, 130 MALABAR ROAD.

I CURRENTLY AM A POLICE OFFICER WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THE REASON I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO COME OUT HERE TO SPEAK IS TO KIND OF GIVE YOU MY STORY.

SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY FOR A YEAR AND A MONTH ON JANUARY 28TH, 2020.

FOR ME AND A PARTNER OF OURS WAS SHOT.

I HAD TO SEE HIM HURT ON TOP OF BEING HURT MYSELF.

BUT FOR ME, I DIDN'T.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME. I CARED ABOUT HIM BECAUSE I COULD SEE THE PAIN HE WAS GOING THROUGH AND EXPERIENCING IT MYSELF.

BUT HIS WAS A DIFFERENT DEGREE.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, AN INNOCENT LIFE WAS LOST.

AND I TOOK THAT PERSONAL BECAUSE MY JOB IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.

AND I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME WITH THAT.

I WAS HAVING A HARD TIME ACCEPTING THAT AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON.

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RIGHT. BETWEEN DEALING WITH AN INJURY IN AND OF ITSELF THAT I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY LEG, BUT HOPING I COULD AND HAVING TO RECOVER FROM THAT EVENTUALLY I DID.

I LEARNED A LOT. THE BODY IS CAPABLE OF A LOT OF THINGS.

IT'S KIND OF CRAZY. MAYBE MY LEG MODELING CAREER AFTER THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE PANNING OUT, BUT I DIGRESS.

BUT THAT SCAR IS NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.

BUT THE INTERNAL SCARS THAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH FROM THAT DAY.

SEEING IT. WITNESSING IT.

HEARING THE THINGS WILL NEVER GO AWAY.

BUT I GOT RESOURCES AND HELP FROM MY EMPLOYER, A PLACE THAT I'VE WORKED IN AGENCIES BEFORE.

I CAME FROM CORRECTIONS WHERE THAT NEVER HAPPENS.

IT'S THE OLD SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP MENTALITY.

BUT LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

WHEN YOU TELL A BUTTERCUP TO SUCK IT UP, ARE THEY STILL NOT A BUTTERCUP AFTER YOU'RE NOT ADDRESSING AN ISSUE.

THAT ISSUE FOR ME WAS ADDRESSED THROUGH THIS AGENCY AND I GOT THE HELP I NEEDED.

MY LIFE WAS SAVED BY INDIVIDUALS WHO I'M NOT GOING TO NAME SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE, AND I WANT TO SPEAK FOR THAT.

SO I WANT TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, AND I WANT IT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD IN THAT WAY.

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE NEED TO SUFFER IN SILENCE.

THAT'S WHY I'M HERE DOING THIS, BECAUSE IF WE REACH OUT AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, MAYBE THEY'LL REACH OUT AND GET HELP.

AND BY NO MEANS AM I GETTING IN THE MIDDLE OF ANYTHING WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIS.

THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR ME, AND I'LL STAND UP FOR THAT.

AND I'LL SPEAK AFTER, BECAUSE I GOT MORE TO SAY AND I DIDN'T THINK THREE MINUTES WAS GOING TO SAY IT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK FOR THIS FIRST HALF.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. MAYOR. MR. MAYOR. YEAH. IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW OFFICER, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY.

THANK YOU. AND MOREOVER, KNOWING THAT HE WAS WOUNDED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.

RIGHT. SO THANK YOU, OFFICER FRANCE.

NEXT SPEAKER. MR..

JOHN MCGEE.

MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PALM BAY CITY STAFF.

I'M HERE TO ANNOUNCE SOMETHING I THINK IS GOOD.

IT'S FUNNY. THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP, AND A GROUP OF US CITIZENS IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY HAVE BEEN MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON, COMMENTS THAT WE HEAR ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE CONCERNING THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TAXES AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE WE ADDRESS ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE AS CITIZENS IS THE RIGHT TO VOTE.

AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE, TO REPLACE OR TO PUT IN PLACE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THIS COMING ELECTION.

I THINK IT IS THE LOCAL ELECTIONS IMPACT OUR LIVES ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS MORE THAN THE ISSUES THAT COME FROM WASHINGTON, DC OR EVEN TALLAHASSEE.

THE ISSUES OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME AND WATER AND UTILITIES AND EDUCATION AND TRAFFIC AND DEVELOPMENT, THOSE ARE ALL LOCAL ISSUES THAT WE ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH. SO I'M ANNOUNCING THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS AS A GROUP IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY TO PUT TOGETHER A CANDIDATE FORUM FOR ALL THE COUNCIL CANDIDATES WHO ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE IN NOVEMBER.

AND WE ARE PLEASED THAT AS THE TIME I WALKED IN THE DOOR, SEVEN OF THE NINE CANDIDATES HAVE ACCEPTED OUR INVITATION TO PARTICIPATE IN A PUBLIC FORUM, NOT A DEBATE.

A FORUM WHERE WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO THE CANDIDATES, AND THEN WE WILL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CANDIDATES AND TO EITHER RESPOND TO THOSE QUESTIONS. BUT WE ARE ALSO OPENING THE FLOOR TO CITIZENS TO COME AND ASK QUESTIONS OF THE CANDIDATES THEMSELVES.

SO THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO THE PEOPLE IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.

IT IS OPEN TO THE ENTIRE CITY OR VOTERS WHO WANT TO COME AND PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND HEAR THE CANDIDATES TALK TO THE CANDIDATES AND HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.

SO THIS WILL BE ON TUESDAY, THIS COMING TUESDAY, THE 24TH AT 6 P.M.

AT GRACE BIBLE CHURCH IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

THEY'VE GRACIOUSLY AGREED TO HOST THIS FOR US.

WE NEEDED A VENUE THAT SEATED MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE.

SO PASTOR CANNON HAS AGREED TO ALLOW US TO TO USE THAT FACILITY.

AND I EXTEND THE INVITATION TO EVERYBODY THAT'S CONCERNED.

BRING YOUR CONCERNS.

LISTEN TO THE CANDIDATES AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, VOTE.

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PLEASE VOTE.

I LOOKED AT THE STATISTICS AND PALM BAY FOR THE LAST FEW ELECTIONS, AND IN THE PRIMARY ELECTION IN AUGUST, 24% OF THE VOTERS VOTED IN THE LAST ELECTION IN 2022, 45% OF THE REGISTERED VOTERS CAST A BALLOT IN THE ELECTION.

IN 2020, 65% OF REGISTERED VOTERS CAST A BALLOT.

THAT MEANS WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS AND ARE NOT GETTING INVOLVED, SO I'M HOPING THAT A FORUM LIKE THIS WILL HELP PEOPLE GET EDUCATED AND UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. MR. STEVE BLAND.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL.

MAYOR. CITY STAFF.

MY AND STEVE BLAND, 2628 YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE CITY AND CITIZENS OF PALM BAY AND THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I GAVE MY LIFE AND HEART TO THAT DEPARTMENT FOR THOSE THOSE 28 YEARS.

AND I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE A SUPPORTER OF THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

TONIGHT, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AND LET THE CITIZENS KNOW THAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS SOUND.

OUR DEPARTMENT IS STRONG, AND IT HAS STRONG LEADERSHIP.

I KNOW THE STAFF AND COUNCIL KNOW, BUT THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A LEGACY OF GREAT CHIEFS OF POLICE.

SOMEHOW, SOME WAY, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INCREDIBLY SPECIAL CHIEFS THAT HAVE LEFT HERE AND WENT ON TO DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE CITIZENS THAT DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE CHIEFS THAT WENT ON AND BEEN NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS EXPERTS, NATIONALLY LED NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS.

WE HAVE CHIEFS THAT WENT ON TO BE MEMBERS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AT HIGH LEVELS.

AND WE HAVE A CHIEF THAT JUST GOT THE POSITION AT GAINESVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE A LEGACY OF GREAT CHIEFS, BUT NONE OF THOSE CHIEFS WERE EVER ABLE TO BRING TOGETHER A DEPARTMENT WITH COMPASSION AND AUTHENTICITY, THE WAY CHIEF OGOLO HAS.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU WHY.

I KNOW THAT'S THE CASE, BECAUSE OFFICERS WHO ARE IN CRISIS.

OFFICERS WHO HAVE HAD PROBLEMS WORKING AND AT HOME HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND TELL TELL HIM THEIR PROBLEMS. ALL THE OTHER CHIEFS, THEY THEY DID THAT, BUT THEY DID THAT WITH THEIR FRIENDS.

THEY DID THAT WITH PEOPLE THEY CAME UP WITH THROUGH THE RANKS.

BUT WHEN AN OFFICER AT AN AGENCY CAN GO TO A CHIEF OF POLICE AND EXPRESS THAT HE'S HAVING PROBLEMS AND THAT HE KNOWS THAT THAT CHIEF WILL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THEN YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN CHANGE HERE.

THE OFFICER THAT SPOKE BEFORE SAID THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGE.

THERE HAS BEEN CHANGE.

AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO TO KNOW BECAUSE IT IS MEDICAL STUFF, A LOT OF IT'S MEDICAL STUFF.

YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

THE CHIEF AND STAFF CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT.

BUT HUMAN RESOURCES HAS NUMBERS.

HUMAN RESOURCES KNOWS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE USING SERVICES AND HOW MANY PEOPLE USE SERVICES IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND HOW MANY PEOPLE USED THOSE TYPE OF SERVICES THE PRIOR FIVE.

THOSE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

THOSE NUMBERS CAN'T BE CHANGED.

THEY'RE IN THE BOOKS.

AND SO THAT TELLS YOU THE DIFFERENCE FROM A CHIEF OF POLICE THAT CARES, THAT IS AUTHENTIC, AND THAT HIS PEOPLE KNOW ARE AUTHENTIC.

AND I'LL BE BACK UP HERE IF THERE'S ANOTHER TIME FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING, BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER TOPIC, BUT THAT SHOULD BE THE MOST IMPORTANT.

IMPORTANT PART OF OF MY MESSAGE TODAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON, LANCE FISHER, 628 CORNELIA AVENUE.

MR. FISHER.

IT IS GOOD TO SEE THAT CHICAGO HAS A LARGE SUPPORT HERE.

HE HAS DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB FOR THE AGENCY.

SO MOVING FORWARD.

SO LAST WEEK, I, I STOOD HERE AT THE PODIUM AND I SPOKE ABOUT 746 HAFTO STREET.

THAT'S A SOBER LIVING FACILITY DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE POLICE CHIEF.

I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE 185 POLICE INITIATED CALLS FOR SERVICE AT THAT RESIDENCE.

THESE ARE NOT CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT CITIZENS PROVIDE, BUT THESE ARE WHERE OFFICERS GO AND TARGET THE ADDRESS.

SPECIFICALLY TARGET THEM.

JUST A REMINDER, THE THREE THE OTHER THREE LIVING FACILITIES HAD A TOTAL OF ONE POLICE INITIATED SERVICE.

THIS IS 0.2 MILES FROM PINEAPPLE COVE ACADEMY AT EMERSON DRIVE, WHERE YOU'VE HAD NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS.

IRONICALLY, YESTERDAY I PULLED A NEW LIST FROM 746, AND THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE CALLS FOR SERVICE SINCE SEPTEMBER THE 6TH WHEN I STOOD BEFORE YOU.

SO SOMEBODY OBVIOUSLY GOT THE WORD THAT THAT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD TACTIC.

I STOOD BEFORE YOU GUYS BECAUSE I'M A YOU GUYS.

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I LET YOU KNOW ON MAY THE 10TH THAT THIS WAS GOING ON, THAT THAT CIVIL RIGHTS WERE BEING VIOLATED, THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE WAS TARGETING THESE HOUSES AND USING HIS CRIME SUPPRESSION SIU UNITS TO TARGET THAT HOUSE.

I SAID EACH OF YOU AN EMAIL EXPRESSING MY WILLINGNESS TO MEET WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU CANNOT MEET WITH ME.

YOU CAN'T MEET WITH THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

WHO WANTS TO FILE A COMPLAINT? BASED ON THAT.

I WANTED TO MEET WITH YOU TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS WITH CHIEF ANGELOS ABUSE OF POWER, AND HIS INTENT TO USE HIS OFFICERS TO UNJUSTLY TARGET A HOUSE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO HIS RESIDENCE.

I HAVE CONDUCTED SEVERAL PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS AND CANNOT FIND ANY VIOLENT CRIMES.

OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, OTHER NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS, TRAFFIC COMPLAINTS, EXCESSIVE CALLS FOR SERVICE, OR ANY EXPLANATION OF WHY THE CHIEF IS PERSONALLY TARGETED THIS HOUSE, OTHER THAN THE PROXIMITY TO HIS LOCATION.

I'M CURRENTLY WAITING FOR SPECIFIC CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT WAS PROVIDED FOR THIS, FOR THIS ARREST AFFIDAVIT, FOR ARREST AFFIDAVITS.

I DID PULL ONE ARREST AFFIDAVIT FROM MARCH 23RD.

A GENTLEMAN WAS THE ARREST AFFIDAVIT SAYS HE WAS WALKING IN THE STREET WITH TRAFFIC, NOT FACING TRAFFIC, AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY SEARCHED AND ARRESTED. CAN'T EVEN WALK FROM HIS OWN HOUSE.

I'M NOT FOR SURE HOW MANY TIMES CHIEF ARGUELLO HAS WALKED ON THAT SIDE, ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD.

I HAVE A SERIES OF TEXT MESSAGES FROM COMMAND STAFF ON THAT DATE.

CHIEF AGUILAR SAID HAPPY SATURDAY.

PATROL JUST ARRESTED THE NEW GUYS FROM THE STREET.

DEPUTY CHIEF SPEAR SAYS SUITE COMMANDER SAYS THAT SHOULD GET HIM BOOTED.

THIS THIS SHOULD BE CONCERNING CONCERNING THAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS USING HIS POWERS AND HIS OFFICERS TO ATTACK A SOBER LIVING FACILITY.

THERE'S MORE HERE.

CHIEF SAYS SORRY.

PISSED OVER THIS I'LL RELAY IT TO MIKE SMITH.

GOING TO TRY AND GET SAM STOPPED.

COMMANDER. TOMMY, IF YOU CAN'T TRY TODAY, I'LL GET CRIME SUPPRESSION.

SIU BACK ON IT TOMORROW.

NEXT WEEK, I'D LIKE A LIST OF THE.

WHAT THE THE EFFORTS YIELDED THAN THOSE THAT HAVE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND ARRESTED.

I'M MEETING WITH SOME FORMER CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS IN TWO WEEKS.

THE MAYOR SET IT UP.

THAT'S CHIEF ANGELO.

THAT'S CONCERNING.

GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND LET ME LET ME JUST GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING SOMETHING HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS HAS BROUGHT UP.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS COUNCIL I BROUGHT THIS UP AT THIS COUNCIL ON THIS DAIS, AND I SPOKE ABOUT THE DANGERS TO OUR CHILDREN AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN WHEN THERE'S HOMES THAT CAN ENDANGER THE LIVES OF OUR CITIZENS.

AND THIS COUNCIL, I ASKED FOR A TASK FORCE AND THE RESULTS OF THOSE TASK FORCE.

WERE EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS AGREED.

WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THIS.

LOOK INTO NUMBER ONE.

ARE THEY OPERATING LEGALLY? WHAT REGULATIONS ARE THERE? HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THIS AND PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF OUR OF OUR CITY? I DID NOT WANT ANY DRUG ACTIVITIES NEAR MY GRANDCHILDREN'S HOMES, NEAR MY CHILDREN'S HOMES.

AND EVERYONE ON THIS COUNCIL SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THIS AND HAVE A TASK FORCE.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE WERE SOME EFFORTS THAT WENT ON IN A SPECIFIC LOCATION AND EVEN TRUE TO WORD, THE PROCESS WORKED. THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS WITH DIFFERENT ENTITIES REGARDING THIS TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO WITH THAT BEING SAID THIS IS A CITY MANAGEMENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING FOR COUNCIL TO DO AND MEET WITH A CONSTITUENT THAT IS ACTUALLY WAS A FORMER EMPLOYEE, BECAUSE THAT IS BEYOND OUR SCOPE.

IT'S AGAINST OUR CHARTER AS WELL.

BUT, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN, THIS IS A CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU SPEAK ON WHAT ACTIONS OCCURRED AND HOW DID WE GET TO THIS POINT? YES, SIR. AND SPECIFIC TO THE SOBER LIVING OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSES THAT YOU'RE CORRECT.

OBVIOUSLY, COUNCIL DID GIVE US THAT DIRECTION TO LOOK INTO IT.

CHIEF CERTAINLY BRIEFED ME MULTIPLE TIMES WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

AND THERE WERE DEFINITELY THERE'S DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ESSENTIALLY THAT HANDLE THESE, THESE TYPES OF HOMES.

SOME OF THEM DO VERY WELL.

SOME OF THEM DON'T DO AS WELL AS THEY SHOULD.

BUT THIS ONE, PARTICULAR ONE WAS NOT SET UP THE WAY IT SHOULD HAVE.

THERE'S VARIOUS RULES THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN TYPE OF PERSON MANAGING IT THAT MAINTAINS THE STRUCTURE IN THE HOME.

THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, WHICH WAS LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CHIEF'S HOUSE, WAS NOT IN IN GOOD STANDING WITH THOSE, THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS.

AND SO, YES, INDEED, WE DID HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVITY OUT THERE.

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I KNOW THAT WE DEALT WITH SOME ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, INCLUDING DRUG ACTIVITY THAT TOOK PLACE.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE VIDEO OF THE THE TRANSACTIONS OCCURRING IN THE DRIVEWAY OF THIS HOME.

I KNOW THERE WAS ACTUALLY A MURDER SUSPECT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AND ARRESTED THAT WAS AT THIS HOME.

AND ALL OF THOSE EFFORTS AND OUR OUR COLLABORATION WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OF, OF THAT PARTICULAR HOME RESULTED IN A PROPERTY THAT'S NOW IN COMPLIANCE.

SO IT CAN CONTINUE TO BE ONE OF THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ISSUES THEY WERE HAVING BEFORE.

SO THE WORK THAT WAS PUT IN WAS WAS EFFECTIVE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM? HOW DO WE GET TO THIS POINT NOW? BECAUSE I BELIEVE YOU.

YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYEES, WE HAVE NO SAY REGARDING THIS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS A CITY MANAGEMENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

COUNCIL SHOULD NOT BE WEIGHING IN ON ON EMPLOYEE ISSUES.

YES, SIR. SO, SO REGARDING MR. FISHER AND HIS SITUATION.

YOU KNOW, AS YOU HEARD, SOME LAST, LAST MEETING WHEN HE SPOKE, AND I'VE CERTAINLY BRIEFED ALL OF COUNCIL.

WE'RE WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE HE WAS MEDICALLY SEPARATED.

MR. FISHER IS NOW A FORMER EMPLOYEE.

HE'S BEEN TREATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODES.

HE UNFORTUNATELY, WAS IN A SITUATION WHERE HE HAD A AN ISSUE THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN DISCIPLINE, BUT BEFORE THE DISCIPLINE PROCESS COULD HAVE CARRIED FORWARD.

HE WENT OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE AND THE CITY TRIED TO WORK WITH HIM FOR THAT EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME, AND HIS POSITION IS TOO IMPORTANT TO LEAVE UNFILLED IN AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

SO MR. FISHER WAS SEPARATED FROM EMPLOYMENT, AS WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODES AFTER HIS FOUR MONTHS OF BEING OUT ON MEDICAL LEAVE.

SO IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT, CERTAINLY I'M HAPPY TO DISCUSS THOSE WITH WITH COUNSEL.

BUT YES, IT WAS HANDLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CODES, JUST AS WE HAVE DONE WITH MANY OTHER PERSONNEL ISSUES.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

YES. THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MEET WITH WHOEVER WHETHER IT'S EMPLOYEES, CITIZENS OR DEVELOPERS, YOU KNOW, AS THE LEADERS. THAT'S THAT'S MY ONLY WEIGH IN ON THE TOPIC, BECAUSE I'VE HAD EMPLOYEES REACH OUT TO ME MULTIPLE TIMES, AND THEN I WILL REACH OUT TO MISS SUZANNE, THE CITY MANAGER.

SO I WILL GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS.

BUT THEY SEE US MORE THAN THE CITY MANAGER.

THEY SEE YOU, THEY SEE DEPUTY MAYOR, THEY SEE COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, BECAUSE WE'RE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO THEREFORE THEY ENGAGE US.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S A VALID STATEMENT IN SAYING THAT WE CAN'T TALK TO EMPLOYEES BECAUSE I'VE TALKED TO POLICE CHIEF, I'VE TALKED TO STAFF, I'VE TALKED TO EVERYBODY IN HERE PRETTY MUCH, AND SOME OF THEM SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.

I BRING IT BACK TO CITY MANAGEMENT.

YEAH. MAYBE YOU MISUNDERSTOOD.

THIS IS A CITY MANAGEMENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

NOW, WHEN IT.

CITY MANAGEMENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

RIGHT. CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS I DIDN'T SAY DON'T SPEAK.

OF COURSE WE GET INFORMATION ON THE DAIS, BUT WE DON'T HANDLE IT.

WE DON'T MAKE ANY PROMISES.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT. WE PASS THAT ON TO THE CITY MANAGER.

BUT WE DON'T GET INVOLVED.

WE DON'T PUT OUR FINGERPRINTS ON IT.

THAT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

NOT SPEAKING TO INDIVIDUALS.

WE DON'T PUT OUR FINGERPRINTS ON IT BECAUSE IT'S AGAINST WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING NEXT.

SPEAKER. MR. DIAMOND. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MAYOR.

MY NAME IS ALAN DIAMOND.

I AM AN ATTORNEY HERE IN TOWN.

I'VE BEEN IN BREVARD COUNTY FOR 32 YEARS.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHO I AM.

TEN YEARS AS A PROSECUTOR.

THE LAST 22 YEARS BEEN WORKING WITH THE FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE AS STAFF COUNSEL, GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA AS WELL.

FOR PART OF THAT TIME, HANDLED MANY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS.

OFFICER INVOLVED INCIDENTS NOT ONLY IN PALM BAY, BUT IN ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT CENTRAL FLORIDA.

I'M HERE REALLY JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW LUCKY YOU ARE AS A CITY, BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GREAT CHIEF RUNNING THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH 9 OR 10 OF YOUR CHIEFS OF POLICE OVER THE PAST 32 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS COUNTY AND I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT HESITATION, THE ONE YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IS STELLAR.

HE HAS THE OFFICERS BACKS.

HE HAS THE DEPARTMENTS BACK.

HE HAS THE CITIES THAT HE TRULY CARES ABOUT.

LOVES. AND I CAN TELL YOU, THE MORALE IN THIS DEPARTMENT IS BETTER THAN I'VE EVER SEEN IT.

THE SUPPORT THAT HE GIVES HIS EMPLOYEES AND HIS MEMBERS IS SECOND TO NONE.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW LUCKY YOU ARE TO HAVE HIM.

AND THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

HOW'S THAT FOR A LAWYER AND DONE IN A MINUTE.

KUDOS TO YOU, MISTER DIAMOND.

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I'M SURE EVERYBODY'S ANXIOUS TO HEAR ME TALK.

MRS, RIGHT.

ISABEL. RIGHT.

HELLO, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS SANTA ISABEL, RIGHT? I LIVE AT 858 BRISBANE STREET NORTHEAST.

I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT.

IT SADDENS ME TODAY.

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING ON FRED POPPY, WHICH I WILL, BUT IT SENDS ME TODAY THAT WE HAVE ALL THESE WONDERFUL HUMAN BEINGS THAT PROTECT OUR CITY AND FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO BE HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST.

REALLY, MR. FISHER? I GOT INVOLVED WITH MR. FISHER LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE WHEN IT WAS HE REACHED OUT TO ME AFTER I REACHED OUT TO THEM.

BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE ARE A CITY, LIKE GABRIEL SAID, WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OUR PEOPLE AND OUR CULTURE.

OUR POLICE OFFICERS NEED TO BE PROTECTED.

AND I'M NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM THE CHIEF.

BUT THIS ISSUE ABOUT WELLNESS WAS BROUGHT ON BEFORE THIS CHIEF WAS HERE.

AND I'M REALLY TAKEN BACK BY MR. BLAND SAYING THAT THIS IS THE ONLY CHIEF THAT HAS SPOKEN UP TO BRING WELLNESS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I SAT MANY A TIMES WITH CHIEF ROGERS.

I'VE SAT WITH HIM.

I'VE SAT WITH MOYA AND OTHER CHIEFS BECAUSE MY BROTHER WAS A POLICE OFFICER AND MY BROTHER TOOK HIS LIFE AND HE TOOK HIS LIFE BECAUSE THERE WAS NO PROTECTION FOR HIM, THERE WAS NO SUPPORT FOR HIM.

I OFFER MY SUPPORT TO MR. FISHER BECAUSE I HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE.

AND GUESS WHAT? NOBODY FROM THIS CITY COUNCIL, FROM YOUR OFFICE SUZANNE, FROM THE LEGAL OFFICE, WORKERS COMP OR ANYBODY ASSISTED HIM.

BECAUSE I WAS IN THE MEDICAL FIELD FOR SO LONG, I WAS ABLE TO GET HIS INFORMATION APPROVED AND TAKEN CARE OF.

THAT MAYBE IT WAS APPROVED A LONG TIME AGO, BUT THAT INFORMATION WAS NOT SHARED TO HIM.

SO HE WAS NOT GETTING THE TREATMENTS ON THE WORKER'S COMP, BUT IN FACT, GETTING THEM UNDER HIS PERSONAL HEALTH INSURANCE.

THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE OR TOLERABLE.

WE ARE CITIZENS THAT PAY OUR TAXES, AND YOU SIT UP THERE AND YOU GUYS HAVE TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.

HE IS A MARINE, HE IS A POLICE OFFICER.

AND NO MATTER WHAT THE PERSONAL FEELINGS ARE ABOUT HIM, WE CANNOT ABANDON HIM.

WE CANNOT ABANDON THE OTHER GENTLEMAN.

GOD BLESS YOU OVER THERE.

THANK GOD YOU'RE SAFE.

CANNOT ABANDON OUR OFFICERS.

BUT IT'S SAD THAT WE HAVE TO FILL THIS OFFICE HERE TODAY AND HEAR THIS CONVERSATION HAS TO HAPPEN.

I WANTED TO SAY THAT.

SET ASIDE. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

AND I HOPE TO GOD THAT YOU'RE ALL PROTECTED.

NOW I'M HERE ABOUT FRED POPPY PARK.

FRED POPPY WAS ARRESTED FOR A DUI.

YOU GUYS REHIRED HIM IN 2015 WHEN HE ALREADY HAD TWO DUIS UNDER HIS BELT.

HIS THIRD DUI. HE LIED AND SAID HE HAD NO OTHER DUIS.

NOW, THIRD DUI IS A FELONY.

WE'RE FULL OF POLICE OFFICERS.

GOD BLESS, OFFICER LUTZ, BECAUSE HE'S AN AMAZING OFFICER.

NOW, THIS GENTLEMAN HAS A PARK NAMED AFTER HIM.

FRED, POPPY PARK IS A DISGRACE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE PARK AFTER HIM.

NOW, I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS PARK TO BE RENAMED FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND I'M IGNORED, SO THANK YOU.

COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR? CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

MR. REDMOND.

WELL. GOOD EVENING.

I AM HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT A LAW THAT TAKES EFFECT IN JANUARY OF 2025.

IT'S FLORIDA STATUTE.

125 0231.

YOU MIGHT KNOW IT AS HOUSE BILL 1365.

IT'S RELATED TO THE HOMELESS.

THIS LAW IS GOING TO CREATE A SERIOUS LIABILITY ISSUE FOR OUR CITY AND A SERIOUS FINANCIAL ISSUE FOR OUR CITY.

AND I AM HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THAT WE HAVE A WORKSHOP ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE ALL OF THESE PROVISIONS.

I KNOW TOMORROW THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION IS HAVING THEIR FIRST MEETING, BUT I WILL SAY IT'S THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER, AND THE PRIORITY FOR THIS REALLY NEEDS TO MOVE UP. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE ILLEGAL TO SLEEP OR BE HOMELESS, TO SLEEP ANYWHERE ON THE STREETS.

AND THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE BILL THAT ALLOWS CITIZENS TO SUE THE MUNICIPALITY IF THEY DON'T CORRECT ANYBODY THEY COMPLAIN ABOUT WITHIN FIVE DAYS.

SO BASICALLY, THIS COULD REALLY BECOME A LAW ENFORCEMENT NIGHTMARE.

MANY NIGHTMARES.

THE COUNTY IS SUPPOSED TO, BY A MAJORITY VOTE, SET UP AN AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING THE HOMELESS IN.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS HISTORY, BUT I'LL JUST TELL YOU THAT ROUNDING UP PEOPLE AND CORRALLING THEM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S CONSTITUTIONAL,

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BUT IT'S BEING FOUGHT IN THE COURTS.

THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE DECIDED.

THAT'S NOT THE PROBLEM. THE PROBLEM IS IT'S A LAW NOW, AND WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE LAW REGARDLESS.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW.

AND WE CAN ONLY DO THIS FOR A YEAR.

ACCORDING TO THE LAW.

WE CAN ONLY HAVE THIS AREA FOR A YEAR.

SO I GUESS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO POLICE OUR WAY OUT OF HOMELESSNESS IN A YEAR.

IT'S NOT. IT'S RIDICULOUS.

AND WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT, IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

SO THEY EXPECT COUNTIES AND CITIES TO TRY TO COME UP WITH ALL THIS MONEY OUT OF THEIR BUDGET, TO HAVE EXTRA ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE TO HANDLE ALL THESE COMPLAINTS AND TRACK THEM.

I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON WITH ALL THE ISSUES THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE.

SO THE REASON I'M STANDING HERE TONIGHT IS I'M A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT WE HAVEN'T MOVED IN A QUICKER MANNER TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.

I HAVE EMAILED ALL OF YOU GUYS, AND WE'VE KNOWN IT'S BEEN GOING ON, AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

AND IF I'M MISTAKEN, I APOLOGIZE.

BUT I DO KNOW IT'S THE MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER AND THIS LAW TAKES EFFECT IN JANUARY.

THAT'S NOT A LONG TIME TO PLAN ANYTHING.

SO I'M ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL AT A VERY EXPEDITED RATE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND PLEASE DO IT THAT WAY.

DON'T HAVE CITY STAFF DO IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE MANY EXPERTS.

YOU HAVE MANY PASTORS HERE.

YOU HAVE MANY NONPROFITS THAT ALL NEED TO WEIGH IN ON HOW THIS IS DONE IN OUR CITY.

AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT ANYBODY SAYS TO YOU, THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION DOES NOT PLAN FOR PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

WE NEED TO PLAN FOR PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

SO I'M BEGGING YOU TO PLEASE QUICKLY SET UP A WORKSHOP.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EFFORTS.

CAN YOU BRIEF US A BIT WHILE WE'RE.

WE'RE ON THE TOPIC.

YES, SIR. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

CONSULTED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS WITH WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.

AND YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE AS PREPARED AS WE CAN BE WITH REGARD TO THE REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO HOUSE BILL 1365, SPECIFIC TO, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE ARE SOME REGULATIONS IN THERE ABOUT SLEEPING ON, ON PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY, FOR EXAMPLE RESTRICTIONS OR CRITERIA RELATED TO IF YOU GET A COMPLAINT ABOUT SOMEONE THAT THERE'S A MINIMUM NUMBER OF DAYS THAT YOU HAVE TO TO TAKE CARE OF THE SITUATION.

SO WE ARE ACTIVELY WE ARE ALREADY PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THAT.

AND IT'S REALLY SOME OF IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO ALREADY, WHICH IS IF SOMEONE IS FOUND SLEEPING ON A PUBLIC STREET OR ON A CITY RIGHT OF WAY.

YOU KNOW, IN THAT CASE, ACCORDING TO THE NEW LAW, WE BECOME THE CITY BECOMES THE COMPLAINANT ESSENTIALLY.

BUT WE WOULD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD WORK WITH THEM LIKE WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE AND HAVE THEM BE REMOVED.

BUT OUR FIRST CHOICE, WHICH HAS ALWAYS BEEN WHAT WE WE'VE DONE FOR FOR SOME TIME NOW, WHICH IS TRY TO HELP THEM GET TO GET RESOURCES.

SO WE ALWAYS TRY TO FIND THEM A SOLUTION RATHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING THAT MAYBE SOME SOME PLACES ARE MORE AGGRESSIVE AND THEY'LL ARREST THEM OR DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE ALWAYS TRY TO FIND THEM RESOURCES.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION ON THIS.

THEY'VE THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO US QUITE SOME TIME AGO BECAUSE THEY'RE PARTNERS WITH US IN AND OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY AS WELL.

IN FACT, TOMORROW WE HAVE A MULTI-JURISDICTIONAL MEETING.

I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WANTS TO SPEAK TO, BUT HE'S A PART OF THE MEETING TOMORROW.

WHICH INVOLVES BREVARD COUNTY, MULTIPLE CITIES, SOME ELECTED OFFICIALS, PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN THE NONPROFIT COMMUNITY, PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THE AGENCIES BOTH AT THE COUNTY AND IN THE CITIES THAT INCLUDING, LIKE BERARDI, WHO'S ON OUR TEAM, JOAN WILL BE THERE AS WELL.

SO WE'RE ALL KIND OF COMING TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING HOLISTICALLY, COUNTY WIDE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TOGETHER.

AND BUT THAT GOES BEYOND THE THINGS THAT WE ALREADY ARE PREPARED TO HANDLE AS A CITY.

YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS YOU KNOW, THE LAW TAKES EFFECT.

I THINK THERE IS A LEVEL OF EXPEDIENCY AS.

YES, SIR, SINCE THE LORD DOES TAKE EFFECT IN JANUARY.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT FORWARD.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SINCE YOU WILL BE ATTENDING THAT MEETING TOMORROW.

YES, SIR. JUST TO TO BRING BACK JUST LIKE STAFF, A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I DO FEEL A WORKSHOP BASED OFF PALM BAY PROBABLY WILL BE NECESSARY, BUT JUST WE'LL ALL COLLECT INFORMATION, WE'LL UPDATE AND GO FROM THERE.

BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ADDRESS ALL OF BREVARD.

WE NEED TO ADDRESS PALM BAY.

THAT'S OUR JURISDICTION.

SO THAT'S ALL.

MAYOR, WILL YOU BE ATTENDING AS WELL, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, SIR. NO, I'M NOT ABLE.

SO YOU'LL HAVE TO GATHER THAT INTEL WITH STAFF, AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT FORWARD AND SEE WHERE WE GO.

BUT THANK YOU AGAIN.

NEXT SPEAKER IS DALPRA.

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PAT DALPRA, 14 GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST.

FIRST QUESTION. CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE AIR CONDITIONING? SO I'M VERY COMFORTABLE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, THANK YOU.

OKAY FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, THIS IS CONSTITUTION WEEK, AND TUESDAY WAS CONSTITUTION DAY.

AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES ACTUALLY REQUIRE THEIR SCHOOLS TO TEACH THE STUDENTS ABOUT CONSTITUTION.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL CITIZENS SHOULD READ THE CONSTITUTION AND STUDY IT.

WE DO HAVE CONSTITUTION COACHES AND PATRIOT CHURCHES HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY THAT TEACH THE CONSTITUTION.

AND WE ALL NEED TO BE INFORMED.

CITIZENS NEED TO BE WELL INFORMED IN ORDER TO VOTE AND UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING ON.

ALSO, PASTOR MARK, WHO GAVE THE INVOCATION TODAY IS HAVING A CANDIDATE FORUM AS WELL.

IT'S THIS SATURDAY FROM 1 TO 5.

AND IF YOU NEED A FLIER, I HAVE SOME WE HAVE FOR CITY COUNCIL.

WE HAVE THE SHERIFF IVEY SPEAKING, WE HAVE MONIQUE MILLER SPEAKING, AND WE HAVE SANDRA KENNEDY.

SHE'S BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE AND THE CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS.

AND I THINK IN ORDER TO REALLY UNDERSTAND CANDIDATES, IT'S GOOD TO ATTEND THESE AND ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU NEED TO ASK.

SO ALSO THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT UTILITIES.

CAN I STILL ASK? YES. GO AHEAD. OKAY.

IN THE NORTHEAST WE HAVE PIPES THAT ARE LIKE OVER 40, 50 YEARS OLD.

IS THERE CONSIDERATION OF REPLACING? IS THERE A NEED TO REPLACE THOSE? AND ALSO I THINK KENNY JOHNSON FOR BRINGING UP THE FLUORIDE THING.

I DON'T LIKE THAT EITHER.

AND A SUGGESTION IS I USED TO DO CAREER DAYS FOR THE HIGH SCHOOLS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE IF THEY'RE STILL DOING CAREER DAYS.

BUT IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE FROM THE CITY TO SPEAK AT THOSE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

SO JUST YOU GOT 41 SECONDS.

BUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL CLASSES, WHO DOES THAT AND WHERE ARE THEY HELD? CITIZENS DEFENDING FREEDOM DOES THOSE.

SO RUTH HAS SEVERAL CLASSES THAT ARE GOING ON.

I DON'T HAVE THAT AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT YOU CAN GO TO HER WEBSITE.

WHERE CAN THEY GO? CITIZENS.

CITIZENS DEFENDING FREEDOM.ORG.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU.

NEXT. OH, CAN WE ANSWER? YES, SIR. SO REGARDING THE THE PIPE REPLACEMENTS, THAT'S AN ONGOING PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.

SPECIFIC TO THE NORTHEAST.

SO I WOULD ASK GABRIEL TO GET WITH YOU, AND HE CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THAT SPECIFIC AREA.

I DON'T HAVE THAT. AND YOU CAN ALSO TALK TO YOU ABOUT FLUORIDE AS WELL.

NEXT SPEAKER. MISS BARBARA DAVIS.

MAY I HAND YOU SOMETHING, PLEASE? STEP FORWARD. IS THAT FOR EVERYONE? NO, IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE.

THIS IS FOR YOU. SO YOU HAVE TO ZOOM.

OKAY. THIS HAND.

THANK YOU. PASS THAT ONE DOWN, AND I'LL PASS THIS ON.

BARBARA DAVIS, 141 BAY AVENUE NORTHEAST.

GOOD EVENING TO OUR MAYOR, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL PERSONS.

I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MACEDONIA MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH OF MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

I'D LIKE TO READ THIS LETTER.

WE, THE PASTOR, OFFICERS AND MEMBERS OF MACEDONIA MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH ARE PLEASED TO EXTEND TO YOU MOST GRACIOUS AND HEARTY INVITATION TO WELCOME, AS WE VENTURE FORTH IN THE RELAUNCH OF OUR CONSCIOUS REALITY TEACHING MINISTRY.

THIS MINISTRY WAS DEVELOPED BECAUSE OUR PERSON, A PERSON, DECIDED THAT BLACK HISTORY BOOKS WERE TO BE TAKEN OFF THE SHELVES AND NOT TAUGHT.

BLACK HISTORY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND TO MANY OTHERS, AND THEREFORE WE HAVE CONSCIOUS REALITY.

TEACHING IN MELBOURNE AT MACEDONIA MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, WE HAVE A DESCENDANT OF ROSEWOOD TO THAT'S COMING ON OCTOBER 12TH TO VISIT AND TO SPEAK.

AND I'M HERE TO INVITE YOU AND ANYONE HERE PRESENT TODAY THAT IS INTERESTED TO COME TO MACEDONIA FROM 11 TO

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1 P.M., YOU WILL BE FILLED WITH KNOWLEDGE AS WELL AS WITH FOOD.

WE WELCOME YOU TO COME AND VISIT WITH US AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, PLEASE ASK ME THE QUESTIONS.

WE ARE HERE TO EDUCATE.

I AM A RETIRED EDUCATOR, SO EDUCATION NEVER LEAVES ME AND I ALWAYS WANT TO TEACH.

AND SO THEREFORE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW THAT KNOWLEDGE THAT HELPED TO BUILD OUR COUNTRY CONTINUES TO BE SPREADED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, MA'AM.

I LOVE THAT GREAT TOPIC.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO FEED US TOO.

YES. I'LL STAND YOU TOO.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER.

THERE IT IS. COMPLETE PUBLIC COMMENT.

OKAY, SO WE ARE NOW ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, DEPUTY MAYOR.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]

YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE FOLLOWING THREE, FOUR AND SIX.

THIS COUNCIL WISH TO REMOVE ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS. EIGHT. AND I'D LIKE TO REMOVE ITEM ONE.

ITEM ONE.

YES. OKAY.

SO I NEED A MOTION.

IT WAS TABLED. SECOND.

AGAIN IT WAS TABLED.

I APOLOGIZE. YEAH. I APOLOGIZE.

EIGHT WAS TABLED.

OKAY. SO I DON'T ITEMS THAT ARE POLAR.

ONE, THREE, FOUR, SIX, ONE, THREE, FOUR AND SIX.

SO IT'S TWO, FIVE AND SEVEN AND NINE AND TEN.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.

SECOND. SO SECOND BY WEINBERG.

OH. YOU MADE. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

SO, MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER.

IF I MAY READ THE CAPTION OF RESOLUTION 20 2427, PLEASE.

YES, MA'AM. CARRY ON.

RESOLUTION 2024.

THAT'S 27. A RESOLUTION OF THIS.

I'M SORRY. CARRY 1616.

CARRY ON. MA'AM. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 20 2336, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTIONS 2024, DASH ZERO THREE, 2024, DASH 14 AND 2024.

THAT'S 21. ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 TO 2024 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER.

PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 1515.

MADAM MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 54.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP DESIGNATION FOR MICA PARK VILLAGE TO PARKWAY FLEX USE.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD, A HANDOUT IF IT'S OKAY BY THE BOARD.

SAY AGAIN SIR. OH I'VE GOT A HANDOUT IF IT'S OKAY FOR THE BOARD.

YEAH. JUST HAND IT TO ME AND BRING UP THAT MIC, SIR.

YEAH. THANKS.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, ADDRESSES 2651 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD IN MELBOURNE. THIS IS ONE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS SEEN BEFORE.

COUNCIL DID UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IT PREVIOUSLY.

AND MR. WEINBERG WAS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

IS IT NOT HIGH ENOUGH? JUST.

YEAH. SO I KNOW HE'S FAMILIAR WITH IT AS WELL.

BEFORE WE GO INTO THE PRESENTATION OF THE PROJECT, QUICKLY WE JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE THE APPLICANT WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE LAND, MR. RICH CASSAR THOUGHT HE WANTED TO JUST INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS LITTLE RICH CASSAR WITH DIRECTOR OF ENTITLEMENTS FOR LOTUS GROUP.

ADDRESSES 2300 GLADES ROAD, SUITE 202 E, BOCA RATON, FLORIDA.

33431. DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HERE ACTUALLY, ALL OF YOU OR MOST OF YOU ARE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH US BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THIS IS OUR MOST EXCITING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

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AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT MOMENTUM BEHIND IT AND A LOT OF GREAT INTEREST COMING FROM PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT TO BE IN THIS SPOT IN PALM BAY.

SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO TO BE HERE AND EXCITED TO BE DELIVERING THIS PROJECT.

THANKS. SO I'LL JUST DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW SINCE YOU ARE ALL SO FAMILIAR WITH IT.

WE'RE ONLY HERE BECAUSE OF A PROCESSING ISSUE, SO WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THE VOTE HAPPEN AGAIN.

WE'RE ASKING FOR THE PARKWAY FLEX USE.

FUTURE LAND USE.

THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT'S ALMOST PERFECT FOR THIS SITE.

PROVIDING A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL.

AND, OF COURSE, THE COMMERCIAL USES THAT WE KNOW THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR.

THIS SITE IS ABOUT 350 ACRES.

IT'S GOT TWO BEAUTIFUL, VERY LARGE, CLEAR LAKES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

AND SO WE'RE USING THEM AS A HUGE ASSET TO THE OVERALL PROJECT.

WE ARE EXTENDING THE PARKWAY AS PART OF THE PROJECT.

THIS SITE FALLS RIGHT BETWEEN EMERALD LAKES EAST TO THE NORTH AND ASHLAND PARK TO THE SOUTH.

SO THIS IS THE GATEWAY TO ASHLAND PARK.

IT IS GOING TO BE OPENING UP EAST EMERALD LAKES.

EMERALD LAKES ALREADY HAS THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.

THE CITY HAS OTHER PUBLIC LANDS ALREADY FOR STORMWATER PONDS THROUGH THERE.

SO THIS PROJECT ABLE TO COMPLETELY MOVE FORWARD WITH IT ON ITS OWN.

AND THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER WITH EMERALD LAKES AND WITH ASHLAND PARK AT THE SAME TIME.

BUT JUST IN CASE NEIGHBORS DON'T GET ALONG, THEY CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD FULLY ON THEIR OWN WITH THIS PROJECT.

THAT WOULD ALSO EXTEND THE UTILITIES.

YOU JUST HEARD A GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT ALL THE UTILITIES.

SO THE ALMOST $40 MILLION THAT THE CITY HAS SPENT IN PLANT EXPANSIONS WAS IN ANTICIPATION OF THIS PROJECT AND THE OTHER PROJECTS IN THAT AREA.

SO WE ARE, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPERS FOR THE FOR THE AREA, EXTENDING LARGE WATER AND WASTEWATER MAINS FOR THAT, PUTTING IN WATER TANKS TO KEEP THE PRESSURES UP FOR FIRE PROTECTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THIS PROJECT IS A BIG KEY TO EXTENDING BOTH THE PARKWAY AND THOSE MAINS.

THIS PARKWAY, THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY DESIGNED THE PARKWAY AND THOSE UTILITY EXTENSIONS AS PART OF IT.

SINCE WE HAD THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW, AND ALSO A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND REZONING.

ALL OF THOSE ARE BEING REVIEWED BY STAFF, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM THROUGH THAT.

WE'VE GONE TO 100% ENGINEERING FOR THE PROJECT.

BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED PREVIOUSLY.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AND EXCITED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE DO HAVE DOCTOR JESSE ANDERSON HERE WITH US TONIGHT, ALSO THE PLANNER FOR THE PROJECT.

SO WE WANT TO LET HIM GIVE HIS INSIGHT AS WELL.

AND IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THE PRESENTATION, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER IT AND APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU, DOCTOR J.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK TONIGHT.

OVERALL, I THINK JAKE DID A FANTASTIC JOB SUMMARIZING THE PROJECT, AND STAFF DID A GREAT JOB ANALYZING THE HISTORY AS WELL AS THE COMPATIBILITY OF THIS FUTURE LAND USE REQUEST.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OTHERWISE, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I KNOW YOU'RE BIG ON LID, SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD.

THE ONLY THING THAT THAT THE STAFF TALKED TO YOU ABOUT VOLUNTEERING.

LOW AND LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AT ALL, OR WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? I'M GOING TO DEFER TO JAKE ON THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.

ACTUALLY. THANK YOU. YEAH, THANKS.

I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. IT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF DOES A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH ON EVERY PROJECT, BRINGING IT UP.

AND WE TALK THROUGH THAT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN DO IT.

RIGHT NOW, THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DESIGNED THE SITE IS UTILIZING THOSE EXISTING PONDS.

SO WE HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS TO BE ABLE TO CONVEY THE STORMWATER TO THEM, INCLUDING FROM THE PARKWAY ITSELF.

SO JUST UTILIZING THOSE EXISTING PONDS HELPS WITH WITH THAT.

THERE'S OTHER SMALLER THINGS THAT WE DO WITH THE LAKES, OTHER SMALLER THINGS THAT WE DO INTERIOR TO THE PROJECT SITES FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, EVERYTHING FROM OPEN SWALES RATHER THAN JUST PIPING EVERYTHING SAVING EXISTING VEGETATION WHERE YOU CAN, HAVING MORE OPEN GREEN SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF ITEMS ARE INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION EITHER IS THIS PROJECT DID LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL FOR A FIRE STATION OR POLICE STATION, BUT BECAUSE WE'RE THE ENGINEERS OF RECORD FOR ASHFORD PARK, EMERALD LAKES, WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE, WE KNOW THAT WATERSTONE AND CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE ARE ALREADY WORKING WITH STAFF ON A TEMPORARY AND A POSSIBLE PERMANENT FIRE DEPARTMENT LOCATION AT EMERALD LAKES HAS BOTH A POLICE AND FIRE STATION LOCATION SET ASIDE, AND SO DOES ASHTON PARK.

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SO SINCE THIS ONE SITS IN THE MIDDLE, IT DIDN'T SEEM ANY REASON FOR THIS PROJECT TO NEED TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN WEINBERG.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED SOME TIME AGO.

THERE HAVE BEEN 22.

YEAH, THERE'S BEEN REALLY NO CHANGE IN AT ALL.

THE ONLY REASON IT'S EVEN COMING BACK TO US WAS BECAUSE THE CITY MADE AN ERROR.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NICE PROJECT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO REALLY ADD A LOT OF TRAFFIC TO LOCAL ROADS, BECAUSE ENTRANCES AND EXITS ARE ALL ON SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

IF THEY HAVE TO GO NORTH, THEY'RE GOING TO GET ON I-95 FROM THE PARKWAY.

THE COMMERCIAL.

THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE TO THE SOUTH END.

THAT'S THE ONLY THE ONLY DEVELOPMENT PART THAT WILL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO MICO ROAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY A WELL-DESIGNED PROJECT.

WHAT IS THE TIMELINE, JAKE? AS SOON AS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, WE HAD A DELAY BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS BEING DONE, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO MOVE FORWARD.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE READY 100% DESIGNED, AND WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE CITY FOR THE PDP ZONING, FDP.

AND WE WILL FINALIZE THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT FOR THE PARKWAY AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE STORM WATER OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AND MAINTAIN IT SO THAT IT DOES NOT BECOME A BURDEN ON THE CITY.

COULD YOU GIVE ME ANY INTEL ON ASHTON PARK WHILE YOU'RE AT IT? ASHTON PARK IS BASICALLY THE SAME PLACE IN THE PROCESS.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT BEHIND.

IT HAS SUBMITTED A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN REZONING.

AND THEN THEY ADDED 133 ACRES TO IT, WHICH IS I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT.

IT'S A WHOLE TOWN CENTER OUR AREA.

IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE A WINTER GARDEN, I THINK.

IN FACT, IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER AS WINTER GARDEN.

AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT BE ABLE TO COME THERE BECAUSE IT'S GOT THAT VISIBILITY AT THE WEST END OFF OF I 95.

SO WE REALLY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT ONE'S PROBABLY DRILLING THIS ONE BY A FEW MONTHS.

YEAH. OKAY. TRAILING IT BY A FEW MONTHS.

IS THAT OKAY? YEAH.

PRETTY MUCH. PRETTY CLOSE.

AND WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE PARKWAY.

THAT'S GOOD. UTILITY EXTENSIONS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GREAT. GREAT REPORT.

THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, DEPUTY MAYOR? THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'LL BE QUICK.

JAKE, I KNOW WE HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PROGRESS WITH OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT.

NOW, HOW ARE WE IN COMPARISON TO THEIR EFFORT TO TO, YOU KNOW, VIS A VIS THIS PROJECT? SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO EXTEND LARGE UTILITY MAINS FROM BAYSIDE LAKES.

THE FORCE MAIN IS JUST ABOUT DONE WITH CONSTRUCTION DOWN TO MIRALOMA EMERALD LAKES OR.

EXCUSE ME. THE PUBLIX AT CYPRESS MAY PRESERVE.

THEY CONSTRUCTED A PORTION OF IT, IF YOU REMEMBER, RECENTLY AT PALM BAY POINT AND PALM BAY EAST BEFORE YOU.

THEY'VE CONSTRUCTED A PORTION OF IT.

SO EMERALD LAKES IS GOING TO CONSTRUCT THE NEXT PORTION, AND WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY ON FINALIZING THAT UTILITY AGREEMENT WITH STAFF.

AND THEN THIS PROJECT BRINGS IT UNDER I-95 THROUGH EMERALD LAKES EAST TO LOTUS.

AND THEN ASHTON PARK PICKS IT UP FROM THERE AND BRINGS IT THROUGH AS WELL.

SO THEY ARE FALLING RIGHT IN THE ORDER AND EVERYTHING IS LOOKING GREAT.

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS SUPPOSED TO START ACCEPTING FLOWS IN MARCH OR APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.

PERFECT TIMING FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ALL OF OUR PROJECTS OVER THERE.

WE HAVE A FEW PROJECTS THAT ARE APPROVED BUT DON'T HAVE AN EXECUTED UTILITY AGREEMENT BECAUSE OF THOSE UTILITY EXTENSIONS AND THE PLANT NOT BEING FINALIZED.

BUT AGAIN, ALL THAT SEEMS TO BE COMING TOGETHER AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND THEN. OH, SORRY.

NO. GO AHEAD MAYOR. SO THIS IS CONTINGENT ON EMERALD LAKES.

WHAT IF EMERALD LAKES IS BEHIND THE GAME? THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PROJECT IN ASHTON PARK? SO WE DO HAVE SOME WAYS TO WORK AROUND THAT AS WELL.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW HAVE COME TO A VERBAL AGREEMENT, I'LL CALL IT.

WE DON'T HAVE IN WRITING YET THAT WE WOULD RUN A 16 INCH MAIN INSTEAD OF A 24 INCH MAIN, JUST CAPACITY ITEMS, AND THEN WE CAN RUN A PARALLEL MAIN IN THE FUTURE FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.

SO WE'VE ALREADY WORKING THROUGH THAT.

EMERALD LAKES WOULD IF THEY DON'T DO THE 24 THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK AND DO THE 24 AND YOU WOULD GET THE 16 FOR THIS PROJECT AND ASHTON PARK.

YEAH. AM I UNDERSTANDING YOU? THAT'S CORRECT. IN ASHTON PARK IS ALSO LOOKING AT COMING DOWN BABCOCK AND ACROSS MICCO.

OKAY. JUST IN CASE.

SO WE DO HAVE CONTINGENCY PLANS.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. YEAH THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW BECAUSE EITHER WAY ASHTON PARK'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S JUST THAT THIS PIECE IS REALLY CRITICAL TO THAT TOO.

WELL, THIS IS BECAUSE THIS PROJECT ISN'T FAR ENOUGH ALONG YET WHERE IT'S DEDICATED THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE PARKWAY, WHERE THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS.

SO WE REALLY NEED FOR THAT PARKWAY TO BE EXTENDED.

FOR ASHTON PARK TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THIS PROJECT JUST NEEDS TO BE A PART OF IT.

COPY THAT. THANK YOU.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF FULL DISCLOSURE, I DID SPEAK TO DOCTOR J.

ACTUALLY, A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT THIS JUST YESTERDAY.

THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU. I MUST PUT THAT ON RECORD AS WELL.

I DID COMMUNICATE WITH MR.

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HRINKO AS WELL TODAY ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

JUST LAST, LAST COMMENT, MAYOR.

NOW THE POND, WERE THEY ALL MAN MADE OR WERE THEY DUE TO EXISTING WET WET PRESERVATION? IT WAS A BORROW PIT DONE MANY DECADES, A COUPLE AT LEAST 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO.

SO IT WAS A BORROW PIT FOR FILL SOURCE.

PROBABLY A DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, BUT I'M NOT REALLY SURE BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MUCH OTHER DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA.

OKAY, WELL THANK YOU.

I LOOKED AT OVER 11 ACRES OF THAT OVERALL PROJECT.

IT'S ALL YOU KNOW WITH THE STORMWATER RETENTION.

SO I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

WE HAVE SOME REALLY COOL INTERCONNECTIVITY WITH WALKWAYS AND PEDWAYS BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE COMMERCIAL.

I MEAN, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE SPECTACULAR VIEW.

THANK YOU JAKE. THANK YOU.

I'M GOOD. THANK YOU SIR.

ALL RIGHT. MADAM SHERMAN, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MASTER CHIEF, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.

ANYONE ELSE? BY SHOW OF HANDS.

WHEN I LOOKED THROUGH THE PACKET AND I SAW THIS, I TOOK A LITTLE ROAD TRIP TODAY AND I WENT DOWN TO MICCO ROAD TO SEE WHAT WAS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

I FORGOT HOW LONG IT TAKES BECAUSE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT THERE AND HORSEBACK RIDE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET THERE.

AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE FACT THAT THAT'S ALMOST A SEPARATE IDENTITY FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BUT I'M DRIVING IT AND I'M THINKING, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE POLICE HERE WHEN WE NEED THEM? HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THE FIRE HERE WHEN WE NEED THEM? BECAUSE I DROVE IT TODAY AND IT WAS A NIGHTMARE, RIGHT? BUT EITHER WAY, THAT BEING SAID, IF ANY ONE OF THESE ITEMS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OF ASTON PARK, THIS DEVELOPMENT OR EMERALD LAKES FAIL FOR SOME REASON, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN INVESTING INTO ALSO FAILS.

AND I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE SIMPLE FACT WITH THAT IS THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY ARE STILL PAYING FOR A $9 MILLION ROAD THAT WAS ONLY THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE LONG TO CONNECT THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY TO BABCOCK.

THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THAT, DEVELOPERS PROMISED.

THEY BUILT US ALL THESE GREAT IDEAS AND SAYING, WHERE IS IT? WELL, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT, BUT I DID SEE PUBLIX BEING BUILT.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT PUBLIX IS BEING BUILT.

IT'S GOING TO BE HARDER FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN PALM BAY TO GO SOUTH TO GET TO THAT PUBLIX, THAN IT IS TO GO TO THE PUBLIX IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVERYTHING SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME CASUALTIES THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO FACE IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO IF ANY OF THESE FAIL, WE HAVE FAILED THIS TOTAL DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE WATCHING QUITE A FEW OF THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE HAVING HARD TIMES AND BACKING OUT.

IN FACT, I'VE EVEN TRIED TALKING WITH SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THAT JAKE JUST SAID HE'S TALKING WITH.

I'VE BEEN CALLING AND TRYING TO TALK TO HIM, AND SOME OF THEM AREN'T AREN'T EVEN GETTING BACK WITH ME.

SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON THAT WE DON'T SEE.

I COULD BE WRONG, BUT YOU KNOW ME, MY GLASS IS NEVER HALF FULL.

MY GLASS IS ALWAYS HALF EMPTY.

SO THERE'S SOME STUFF GOING ON THAT I'M NOT QUITE SURE OF IS GOING TO SUCCEED.

SO I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT IF ANY ONE OF THESE FAIL, THE ENTIRE PROJECT FAILS.

BUT WE STILL PAID OUR BILL.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. GOOD EVENING, ROBERT STICE 1796, WINBURN DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM.

I WISH THERE WAS A VIDEO ON ON WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A PIECE? I'LL GO AHEAD AND HAND THIS TO YOU.

CAN'T SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF A PIECE DOES.

FAIR TO BUILD BACK AGAIN.

WHAT HAPPENS IF WHAT BILL IS REFERRING TO.

IF THERE'S A PIECE OF THIS THAT DOES FAIL, WHAT'S PLAN B? I MEAN, THE DEVELOPERS SEEM TO BE NICE GUYS.

THEY COME OUT HERE, THEY DO PROMISE YOU THE WORLD.

CRAP HAPPENS, IS IT NOT? HOW OFTEN HAVE WE EXPERIENCED THAT? HOW MUCH CAKE HAVE WE SPENT ON MISTAKES? IS THAT BEING CONSIDERED ON THIS? IT'S WONDERFUL WHEN WHEN I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

I KNOW YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT RESTAURANTS.

ME TOO. BUT IF THIS FAILS, WHAT HAPPENS? I MEAN, WE'D LOOK ABSOLUTELY FOOLISH.

HAVE YOU GIVEN THAT DUE CONSIDERATION? IT'S JUST NOT DEVELOPED, DEVELOPED, DEVELOPED.

AND I JUST HAD SOMEBODY LEAN, LEAN NEXT TO ME AND SAY YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO MOVE DOWN THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THIS GOES IN, TRAFFIC'S ALREADY A BEAR. I SAID, YOU MIGHT NEED TO GET A PICKUP TRUCK IF THIS FAILS.

HOW SERIOUS ARE YOU TAKING THIS? IT'S GOT TO BE JUST AS SERIOUS AS YOU'RE EXCITED TO PASS THIS, TO MOVE FORWARD, TO GET THINGS MOVING.

SO THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I HOPE YOU'RE ALL CONTEMPLATING.

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THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

MR. STICE, I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR AND MYSELF, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THOSE POTENTIAL FAILURES WHEN THEY'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

BUT ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT, SIR.

AND IN PARTICULAR THE CONCERNS OF FAILURE FROM ANY ONE OR MULTIPLE PIECES.

YEAH. I REMEMBER I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND EARLY YEARS IN COLLEGE.

I DROVE DOWN I-95.

I WAS LIKE, WHY ARE THEY BUILDING THESE BUILDINGS OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS COW FIELD? AND THAT WOULD BE VIERA.

THAT'S HOW THAT STARTED.

AND YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT VIERA.

SO THESE THINGS DO TAKE TIME.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE BUILT IN, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO.

THESE ARE TEN, 15 YEAR PROJECTS.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THEM RIGHT.

THEY'VE GOT TO BE PLANNED. RIGHT.

THE VISIBILITY OF I-95 IS WHAT WE THINK WILL DRIVE THE SUCCESS OF THEM.

THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE WHAT WE CALL A LETTER OF INTEREST FROM SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO PURCHASE A PORTION OF IT, WANTS TO BRING IN THE FIRST RESTAURANT OR THE FIRST MEDICAL FACILITY. AND THEY HAVE STACKS OF THEM BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST.

NOW, THERE'S BEEN DELAYS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE WASTEWATER CAPACITY.

WE STILL DON'T. SO THAT'S COMING EARLY NEXT YEAR.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HOLD UP THE PROJECTS FROM BEING ABLE TO FULLY MOVE FORWARD.

THE PUBLIC'S GOT THE LAST BIT OF THE SEWER CAPACITY, AND ALL THE DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA AGREED.

WE WANT PUBLIX.

SO WE'LL LET THEM HAVE THE LAST OF THE SEWER CAPACITY.

THAT'S WHY PUBLIX IS GOING VERTICAL RIGHT NOW.

THE CITY IS WORKING ON INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT THERE AT PUBLIX AND THE PARKWAY, OR EXCUSE ME, BABCOCK STREET AND THE PARKWAY FOR THAT WHOLE REGION AS WELL.

WE JUST GOT THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN AT MERALOMA MERALOMA NOW LOOPED ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND AND COMES BACK TO THE PARKWAY THAT TAKES TRIPS OFF OF BABCOCK STREET.

I'VE BEEN WORKING OUT HERE FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS ON ALL THESE PROJECTS, AND YOU'RE SEEING ALL THE HOMES AT WATERSTONE AND ALL THE HOMES AT CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE BECAUSE THEY WERE CLOSEST TO THE UTILITIES AND CLOSEST TO THE INTERSECTION.

NOW YOU'RE SEEING EMERALD LAKES, NOW YOU'RE SEEING LOTUS.

THE NATIONAL PARK CENTER IS COMING.

SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING, BUT IT DOES TAKE SOME TIME.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER DRIVING AND SEEING ALL THOSE COWS WITH THOSE BUILDINGS COMING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELDS, LOOK AT VIERA TODAY.

SO DID I ANSWER THE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 20 2454.

SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

NOTHING FURTHER TO ADD, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NOTHING FURTHER.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 32, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE BY REPEALING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN ITS ENTIRETY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR DELETION FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS FIRST ITEM IS ONE OF 11 OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE THROUGH 11, THAT ARE ALL RELATED TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH YOU ALL. SO THESE ARE ALL FOR FINAL READING.

THIS FIRST ONE IS SIMPLY THE REPEAL OF THE OLD LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND THE NEXT ONE WILL BE ESTABLISHING THE NEW LANGUAGE.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE.

SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, DEPUTY MAYOR.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 20 2433, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY CREATING TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO PROVIDE FOR THE GOVERNANCE AND REGULATION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, INCLUDING ZONING, ACCESSORY USES, SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS, SIGNS, RESOURCES, STREETS, PARKING, BUILDING DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT, REVIEW PROCEDURES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

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I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I'LL DEFER TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER CARLA BROWN.

THANK YOU, MADAM BROWN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL, I HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION JUST TO COVER THE CHANGES THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THE FIRST READING AND TONIGHT'S SECOND READING.

SO I WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE MONITORS, THE TWO ITEMS THAT THE TWO CHAPTERS THAT HAVE RED ASTERISKS DEFINITIONS.

CHAPTER 171 AND ZONING.

CHAPTER 173.

THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO CHAPTERS THAT WERE AFFECTED IN THE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL AGREED UPON IN THE FIRST READING.

SO MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS CHAPTER 171 DEFINITIONS.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY RECOMMENDED TO COUNCIL THAT WE CONSOLIDATE THE DEFINITION FOR THE VARIOUS EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS WITHIN THE CODE, WHERE IT NOTED PUBLIC AND PRIVATE, WHERE IT NOTED CHARTER, WHERE IT NOTED COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES.

THEY ARE NOW ALL COVERED UNDER ONE DEFINITION.

EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

CONTINUING CHAPTER 171.

THIS IS REGARDING SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS.

PERSONAL. ONE AREA WHERE WE NOTED IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A DEFINITION OR A USE FOR FACILITIES THAT PROVIDE DANCE, MUSIC, ATHLETIC STUDIOS.

WE ALSO NOTED THAT PET DAYCARE FACILITIES WAS IN THE DEFINITION, AND IT ACTUALLY ALREADY HAS A STANDALONE DEFINITION.

SO WE STRUCK THAT FROM THE CHAPTER 170, CHAPTER 171 IN THE BOTTOM OF THE THE SLIDE, YOU SEE HERE WE ADDED A DEFINITION FOR PROTECTED PROTECTED OPEN SPACE.

AND THIS WAS FOLLOWING FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.

AND THE FEEDBACK NOTED SPECIFICALLY THAT WE WERE NOT ALLOWING WETLANDS AND CONSERVATION AREAS SPECIFICALLY TO BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACES, SO THAT DEFINITION WILL ACCOMPLISH THAT.

FURTHER RESOURCE BASED OPEN SPACE AREA.

WE DID NOTE THAT 100% OF THOSE PROTECTED OPEN SPACES ARE ALLOWED TO BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE RESOURCE BASED OPEN SPACE, SO JUST HITS ONE STONE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

CHAPTER 173.

THIS IS THE ZONING CODE.

WE'RE GOING TO COVER A COUPLE OF THE SCHEDULE OF USES TABLES.

THIS ONE IS THE RESIDENTIAL SCHEDULE OF USES TABLE.

FOLLOWING COUNCIL DISCUSSION AND PUBLIC COMMENT WE DID MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REMOVAL OF CLUSTER SUBDIVISIONS IN RURAL RESIDENTIAL, RESIDENTIAL ESTATE AND SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.

SO YOU SEE THAT THE CLUSTER SUBDIVISIONS IS ONLY ALLOWED IN BY CONDITIONAL USE IN RS ONE, RS TWO AND RS THREE.

FURTHER, IN RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS, WE DID STRIKE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

WHILE WE DID CHANGE THE DEFINITION AND CONSOLIDATED IT TO EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS INTERNALLY, WE TALKED WITH, YOU KNOW, IN STAFF AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND NOTED THAT WE REALLY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS IN RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS ANYWAY, CONSIDERING THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD WITH COUNCIL IN THE FIRST READING. SO GOING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS YOUR COMMERCIAL USES ZONING TABLE.

AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF CHANGES THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE.

WE DID NOTE, AND COUNCIL APPROVED ADDING DRIVE THROUGH ESTABLISHMENTS AS A PERMITTED USE AND RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL.

SO THAT IS NOW NOTED IN THE TABLE SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS.

WE DID NOTE THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THIS AS A PERMITTED USE AND RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL, AND WITH THE FOOTNOTE THAT IT MUST BE A MINIMUM 15,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.

EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS IS PERMITTED BY CONDITIONAL USE AND RESTRICTED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, COMMERCIAL COMMUNITY.

COMMERCIAL GENERAL. COMMERCIAL HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL CMU AND UMU.

THERE ARE THREE FOOTNOTES RELATED TO EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO FOOTNOTES THREE, FOUR AND SIX.

THE LOT SHALL HAVE FRONTAGE ON AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY OR COLLECTOR ROADWAY.

THE SITE MUST BE A MINIMUM OF ONE ACRE IN SIZE, AND SHALL HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO A COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL ROADWAY.

ALL BUILDINGS MUST BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 20FT.

50FT. FOR COMMERCIAL DOG KENNELS.

THAT APPLIES TO A DIFFERENT FOOTNOTE FOR FOR A DIFFERENT USE.

AND FOOTNOTE NUMBER SIX, THE SITE SHALL BE DESIGNED BASED ON THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF THE FACILITY.

SO THIS ADDRESSES ACCOMMODATING THE NECESSARY PARKING, THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION, ALL OF THOSE FEATURES FOR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS THAT WE ARE FACED WITH TODAY.

THE FOLLOWING THREE THAT ARE STRICKEN EDUCATIONAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS.

THIS REALLY JUST KIND OF CREATES THAT CONSOLIDATION UNDER EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND REQUIRES THEY ALL BE CONDITIONAL USE.

SMALL EVENT SPACE STAFF NOTICED THAT THIS WAS NOT COVERED IN SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

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DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE THAT WE DID NOT ALLOW SMALL EVENT SPACE IN SOME OF THE MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES.

SO FOLLOWING COUNCIL DISCUSSION UNDER FIRST READING, WE WE ADDED THEM AS A PERMITTED USE IN NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M SORRY COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL, GENERAL COMMERCIAL, HIGHWAY, COMMERCIAL CMU AND UMU GOING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS THE INSTITUTIONAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING SCHEDULE OF USES.

SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS PERSONAL IS CONTINUED.

IT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND LOW LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

AGAIN IS ALLOWED CONDITIONAL USE IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.

IT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT AND THE INSTITUTIONAL USE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE STRICKEN THE REFERENCES TO OTHER SCHOOL ESTABLISHMENTS BECAUSE WE ARE CONSOLIDATING THEM UNDER EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS JUST CLEANING UP SOME OF THE WRITTEN TEXT RELATED TO SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE ALREADY COVERED IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDES CLUSTER SUBDIVISIONS WHERE IT REFERENCES RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE TEXT THAT HAS BEEN STRICKEN AND THEN THE LOT SIZES AND IMPERVIOUS WAS EDITED, IF YOU WILL, TO NOT CONFLICT WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES MADE IN THE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WE'VE REMOVED.

AND THEN MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE SLIDE REGARDING COMMERCIAL RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE.

AGAIN, THIS IS CLEANING UP THE TEXTUAL BASED CHANGES THAT WE MADE THAT WE ALREADY COVERED IN THE SCHEDULED USES TABLE, AND IT JUST CREATES THE REFERENCES FOR ALLOWING PROTECTED OPEN SPACE TO BE COUNTED TOWARDS YOUR COMMON OPEN SPACE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN WEINBERG? WELL, JUST ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE.

ONE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, MADE TO IT.

AND REGARDING, IT'S A SIMPLE CHANGE.

IT'S REGARDING THE THE COURTESY NOTIFICATION OF RESIDENCES WITHIN 500FT.

YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, WELL, PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED THAT THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN NOTIFICATION, BUT SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS ONE INSTANCE RECENTLY, THE THE IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THE STORAGE FACILITY THAT WAS APPROVED ON COGAN ROAD THAT NO ONE WAS WAS NOTIFIED, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE IN EXCESS OF 500FT.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING I SPOKE TO MISS SAUNDERS AND MR. WISE ABOUT, AND THEY HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES WITHIN 500FT THAT THAT BE EXTENDED.

THE COURTESY NOTICES BE EXTENDED TO 750FT.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THE ONLY THING I'D CHANGE I'D LIKE TO SEE MADE.

WHY NOT JUST MAKE IT 750? PERIOD? WELL, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE RESIDENCES WITHIN 500FT, A LOT OF RESIDENTS ARE WITHIN 500FT.

IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY.

AND YOU KNOW, AT THE AT THE THE ADDITIONAL COST TO THE DEVELOPER, IT'S INSTANCES WHEN THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES WITHIN 500FT.

I CAN SEE EXTENDING IT.

I MEAN, WE COULD EXTEND IT FURTHER AD INFINITUM, BUT THERE'S NO SENSE IN DOING THAT.

SO IF THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES WITHIN 750FT, THEY REALLY WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED VERY MUCH.

SO, YOU KNOW, EXTENDING IT FROM 500FT TO 750FT JUST MADE SENSE TO ME.

WELL, IT MAKES SENSE TO ME TOO, BUT PERIOD 750 REGARDLESS, INSTEAD OF JUST 500.

1500? YEAH, EXACTLY.

DO I HEAR MORE? DO I HEAR MORE? I, I AGREE WITH YOU.

I JUST PREFER IT TO BE JUST 750 STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

WELL, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM FROM MR. WISE AND MISS SAUNDERS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I DO APOLOGIZE.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE LAST MEETING.

I HAD A LAST MINUTE FAMILY.

SOMETHING COME UP, SO I COULDN'T.

I DID SEE A LOT OF WHAT WAS HEARD.

A LOT OF GREAT DIALOG BACK AND FORTH.

I DON'T THINK JOE AND OR LISA SLEPT IN SIX MONTHS TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THIS.

THEY'VE MET WITH US MULTIPLE TIMES.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT A DIFFICULT PROCESS THIS IS.

AND FOR THIS COUNCIL TO TRY TO COMPREHEND ALL OF IT.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF MINUTIA, A LOT OF DETAILS, BUT THEY DO HAVE BIG POTENTIAL EFFECTS.

SO JUST DISCUSSING THIS ONE ITEM WITH THE 500 FOOT RADIUS NOTIFICATION IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF EXPENSE TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THESE NOTICES.

IT'S A TON OF OUR STAFF TIME.

IT'S A BIG EXPENSE TO THE DEVELOPER.

SO IF THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS AROUND, I CAN'T TELL YOU.

WE'VE SENT OUT HUNDREDS OF LETTERS ON SOME OF OUR PROJECTS.

SO I THINK THE IDEA OF 750, IF IT'S A MORE RURAL LOCATION.

I KNOW MR. FELIX DIDN'T GET NOTIFIED ON OUR SELF STORAGE PROJECT.

SO I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY FAIR, BUT OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO KEEP THE 500.

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ALL THE OTHER CITIES AND THE BREVARD COUNTY ARE 500 AS WELL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE STANDARD.

BUT CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING THE CIRCUMSTANCES THE 750 WOULD BE BETTER.

COUNCIL, IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT I LIKE IT.

750 STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND YOUR EXAMPLE, YOU HAD A GOLF COURSE, WHICH IS HOW THAT THAT AFFECTED YOU, RIGHT? SO IF WE HAVE A REGIONAL PARK OR IF WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE.

I'M, I'M 750.

IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, LET'S GO 750 ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.

I GET THAT, BUT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS MORE TOWARDS OUR CITIZENRY.

RIGHT. AND THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. MR. WISE, WOULD YOU COME FORWARD AGAIN? I THINK THE PARTICULAR SITUATION MY, MY IN MY CASE WAS IT NOTIFICATION WAS PROVIDED TO THE HOA FOR RUNNING THE PROJECT. WAS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THERE WAS A FEW RESIDENTS THAT WERE NOTIFIED AND THE ONE OF 1 OR 2 OF THE HOA WERE, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM.

I KNOW MY MY WELL, MY HOUSE PER SE.

IT'S RIGHT OUTSIDE THAT LINE.

YEAH. IT WAS. I CHECKED IT BY A FEW HOUSES.

FOOT BY FOOT.

BUT BUT MY I MEAN, IN MY CASE, I BELIEVE MY HOA MAY HAVE BEEN.

NO. RECEIVED THE. YES.

OKAY. BEEN NOTIFIED BECAUSE THEY ARE WITHIN THAT 500.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

OKAY. I THINK THEY WERE JUST SO EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY OBJECT.

YEAH, BUT I MEAN, I IF WE IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT, THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

750 STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

I COULD GO EITHER WAY ON THAT.

I MEAN, BUT OKAY, WE'LL GO 750 STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

DO I HEAR A DO I HEAR A COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? THAT'S ON YOU. I SAY WE START OFF JUST THE WAY.

COUNCILMAN WEINBERG IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IT UP.

I SAY WE START OFF WITH THAT AND SEE HOW IT GOES FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN AND THEN GO FROM THERE.

JUST LIKE WITH LID, I WANTED THAT MANDATORY FROM THE BEGINNING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO SLOW ROLL IT.

SO SAW HOW IT DID WITH VOLUNTARY LID AND THEN MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE.

SO I SAY TRY 750.

THE WAY HE'S PRESENTING IT AND THEN COME BACK.

750. STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

NO. THE WAY.

COUNCILMAN WEINBERG 750.

STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT. WE MIGHT AS WELL JUST CHANGE IT.

BOOM! RIGHT THERE.

AND WE'VE GOT MISS SAUNDERS.

HER JAW JUST DROPPED. I'VE GOT I'VE GOT LEGAL.

I GOT LEGAL ISSUES HERE.

MADAM, MADAM ATTORNEY, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH YOU CHANGING IT AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.

THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, IF YOU DO IT TODAY, YOU JUST REPEALED YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IF YOU MAKE THIS CHANGE, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ANOTHER READING.

SO FROM NOW UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU WILL NOT HAVE A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT.

SO I RECOMMEND IS THAT WE APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE AND LET AND LET STAFF KNOW OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING BACK AFTERWARD.

OKAY. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING BACK 750 STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD.

WE'RE NOT CHANGING THAT TODAY.

SO WE THE PURPOSE OF THE NOTIFICATIONS IS TYPICALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

THE WAY THE CODE READS IS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY MEETING BEFORE WE EVEN MAKE A PRE-APPLICATION SUBMITTAL.

IN THE PAST WE HAD THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, NOT FOR EVERY PROJECT, JUST CERTAIN PROJECTS, BUT IT WAS A COUPLE WEEKS BEFORE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'RE NOT SAYING IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THAT, BUT WHEN WE HAVE ONE BEFORE WE EVEN HAVE A PRE APP WITH STAFF, THINGS CHANGE.

AND I'VE SAID HERE AT PNC MEETING AND HAD RESIDENTS THAT WE MET WITH MONTHS AND MONTHS EARLIER.

THAT FELT LIKE WE PULLED A BAIT AND SWITCH BECAUSE THINGS CHANGED.

SO WE WOULD LIKE IF YOU COULD CHANGE THE COMMUNITY MEETING TO JUST BE SOMETIME AFTER THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.

BUT TYPICALLY WHEN WE GO TO THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, WE'RE READY TO SUBMIT.

SO WE DON'T WANT IT TO HOLD UP OUR FIRST SUBMITTAL, BUT MAYBE SOMETIME BEFORE A SECOND SUBMITTAL OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT STAFF'S AGREEABLE TO.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT AS WELL.

WELL, WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT.

BUT, MADAM CHAIRMAN, WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT? I THINK FOR TONIGHT, I'M CERTAINLY HAPPY TO DISCUSS FURTHER WITH STAFF, AND WE'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK FOR YOU ALL.

OKAY. AS YOU'VE DIRECTED. SO THANK YOU.

THANKS. AND THEN I DID HAVE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS BECAUSE I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING.

IF I CAN, IT'S KIND OF LATE, BUT OKAY.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO IT'S ITEMS. WE'VE TALKED TO STAFF BEFORE, SO I JUST MADE A COUPLE OF NOTES.

SO ON OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S A 20% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR INDUSTRIAL, 10% FOR COMMERCIAL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH ALL THE TIME IS WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL USER THAT IS LOOKING FOR PROPERTY SOMEWHERE IN SOUTHERN BREVARD COUNTY.

AND IF WE COMPARE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN PALM BAY VERSUS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN MELBOURNE OR WEST MELBOURNE, AND THEY SEE A 20% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT,

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THEY HAVE TO BUY 20% MORE LAND TO DO THE SAME THING.

I HATE TO SEE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES GET PASSED IN PALM BAY.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IS MAYBE NOT HAVING THAT MUCH OPEN SPACE FOR AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE PROJECT.

I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE.

WE ALL LIKE THE TREE PRESERVATION AND THINGS THAT GO WITH IT.

MENTAL HEALTH AS WELL.

I HEARD THAT SAID.

BUT JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER BECAUSE I SURE HATE TO SEE THOSE PROJECTS GO UP THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY'RE COMPETING FOR THE COST OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD NOTE.

I'VE HEARD THE SAME THING. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

NO, I KNOW THAT'S A GOOD NOTE, MADAM BROWN.

WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT DURING THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

AND IN PHASE TWO, WE ARE GOING TO BE BRINGING BACK REDUCING THAT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT FOR INDUSTRIAL.

AND A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT WILL COME BACK UP IN JANUARY FOR PHASE TWO.

AND I APOLOGIZE AGAIN.

I JUST WASN'T HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP A COUPLE.

AND THEN I KNOW, YOU KNOW THAT THESE ARE COMING BACK IN PHASE TWO.

YEAH. OKAY. SO WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT WHEN PHASE TWO HAPPENS.

WE CAN DO THAT. YES, SIR.

YES, SIR. IF THESE ARE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'VE ALREADY ARE DISCUSSING IN PHASE TWO, THEN.

YES, SIR. SOUNDS GOOD.

I'D PREFER WE WE KEEP THAT DIALOG THEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

YEAH. MR. MAYOR.

YES. YEAH. IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO REVISIT THESE ISSUES AT, YOU KNOW, AT A, AT A LATER DATE.

BUT AS FAR AS THE ISSUE THAT I BROUGHT UP AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT THIS IS A COURTESY NOTICE.

IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A LEGAL REQUIREMENT.

THE NOTICE IS SO SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE PUNITIVE TO THE DEVELOPER.

THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT IT UP WAS SPECIFICALLY IN THE CASE WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR, WHERE THAT THAT PROJECT IN COGAN IS.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES OR VERY FEW WITHIN 500FT.

AND I FELT THAT THAT EXTENDING THAT TO 750FT WAS, WAS REASONABLE, YOU KNOW, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR, BUT JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, I WAS TALKING ABOUT 1000FT THREE YEARS AGO, BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO THAT THAT'S SO I THOUGHT THAT'D BE A GREAT COMPROMISE ON MY END.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT LITTLE PIECE OF HISTORY AS WELL, BUT I.

DULY NOTED, BROTHER.

DULY NOTED.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. STEP RIGHT UP.

A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO BRING UP ON THIS ONE WAS WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE PROTECTED SPACE VERSUS OPEN SPACE.

I'LL JUST SPEAK FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN ON ME.

YOU KNOW, I LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY, AND THEY'VE JUST CLEARED 30 ACRES TO PUT IN A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OUT IN THE COUNTRY THAT'S STILL.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO RUN WATER AND SEWER PAST EVERYBODY.

BUT I'LL HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT TO ME ACROSS THE STREET.

HEARTBREAKING. OKAY.

BUT ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, ONE OF THE FIVE ACRE LOTS THAT WE HAD, I WANTED.

RIGHT. YES. I WANTED, I WANTED RURAL, RESIDENTIAL, FIVE ACRE AND ONE ACRE LOT.

INSTEAD I'VE GOT I REMEMBER INSTEAD I'VE GOT A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FROM HOLIDAY BUILDERS INSTEAD.

OKAY. THAT BEING SAID, PROTECTED SPACE AND OPEN SPACE UNDER CRITERIA AND COUNTING.

AND AND THE PROTECTED SPACE COUNTING AS OPEN SPACE.

I SEE THAT AS A FAILURE.

I DON'T WANT TO STOP US FROM PROCEEDING.

BUT ON THE PROTECTED SPACE ON THE WETLANDS, THEY HAVE SIX FOOT FENCE PERIMETER COMPLETELY AROUND IT TO PROTECT THE WETLANDS.

THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT OPEN SPACE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO STOP SAYING YOU'RE PROTECTED SPACE THAT YOU HAVE TO PROTECT ANYHOW, BECAUSE IT'S YOUR ENVIRONMENT THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS YOUR DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT OPEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT. IT'S PROTECTED BY A SIX BY A SIX FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

SO DON'T COUNT THAT AS YOUR LAND WHEN IT'S NOT.

IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR DEVELOPMENT ANYMORE.

THE NEXT ITEM WITH THAT ONE IS THE 20% OF YOUR LAND AVAILABLE.

WHEN YOU'RE WORRYING ABOUT HOW MUCH YOU CAN KEEP FOR INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL, WELL, PRETTY SOON WEST MELBOURNE AND MELBOURNE HAVE ALREADY RUN OUT OF LAND, AND THESE PEOPLE THAT WANT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RESOURCE THEY WANT.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCE.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE WILLING TO SAY, HEY, YOU CAN COME TO US AND GET IT FOR LESS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE OUTBIDDING US BY UNDERBIDDING.

OKAY. SO THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GETTING IT.

SO NO, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF GETTING RID OF SOME OF MY GREEN SPACE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO SUPPORT MY LIFE.

CLOSER. I GUESS WE GO ACCORDING TO RANK.

NEXT. NEXT.

MR. STICE AND THEN.

MA'AM. COME ON.

ROBERT STICE, 1796 WINBURN DRIVE.

EXCUSE ME. I WANT TO MENTION THIS.

500FT. YOU LOOK AT THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE IN BAYSIDE LAKES.

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IF YOU SEND OUT NOTIFICATION ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT FOR FIVE ON YOUR FEET, YOU MISS 17, 16 AND 17 HOMES THAT ARE IN THERE.

SO I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A CASE TO CASE BASIS.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED WITH STAFF IS THAT PERHAPS YOU CAN ALSO IDENTIFY THE HOA BOARDS WITHIN THOSE 17 HOA'S AND GET INFORMATION OUT OF THEM TO THEM THAT THEY CAN INFORM THEIR RESIDENTS, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO GET NOTIFIED ON THIS.

SO MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE.

WELL, MY CHALLENGE IS HOW DO YOU THINK OUT OF THE BOX A LITTLE BIT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE IN THE BEYOND THAT 500FT ARE MADE AWARE OF THAT FACT? JOHN MAGEE HAD AN EXCELLENT POINT WITH REGARD TO THE THE ISSUE WITH THE WITH THE TOWNHOMES THERE.

THE 500FT AND THEN YET THE PEOPLE BEHIND THEM.

LOOK, I WORKED IN A COMMUNICATION BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS.

WE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE ACCURATELY IN THAT PARTICULAR ENVIRONMENT.

WHAT MAKES ME GOING TO THINK WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THAT OVERNIGHT? SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE 1000FT MYSELF.

BUT I THOUGHT THE CITY PAYS FOR THAT NOTIFICATION.

THE DEVELOPERS PAY FOR THAT.

WHAT DOES THE CITY NOTIFY? BUT ANYWAY, OKAY, I TAKE THAT AS A DEVELOPER'S.

I THINK MONEY IS GOOD WITH THE DEVELOPERS.

OKAY. I THINK THEY CAN CAN THROW THE CITIZENS A BONE IN THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT.

OKAY, BUT LET'S GET THE NOTIFICATION OUT IN THE COMMUNICATION.

I APPRECIATE THIS DISCUSSION AND THIS TIME.

SUSAN CONNOLLY.

AND I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS, MAYOR, THAT YOU OPENED UP TO FOR PHASE ONE TO HAVE CITIZENS COME FORWARD AND PARTICIPATE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME, I READ THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND SO AND I THINK OTHER CITIZENS HAVE AND SO I DO HAVE SOME OPINIONS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT FROM A CITIZEN STANDPOINT, JUST ON THE 500FT.

I THINK ANOTHER ISSUE IS WHERE DOES THAT 500 WHERE'S THE CENTER FOR MEASURING THE 500FT? IS IT THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY OR THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY? SO THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND 500FT IS NOT ENOUGH.

BUT THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS FOR PHASE TWO TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS THAT WAS STARTED, I WANT TO APPLAUD THE CITY FOR THE THE COUNCIL, THE STAFF FOR HAVING PUBLIC OPEN FORUMS TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS AT A TIME WHEN THE CODES ARE READY TO BE ADOPTED IS NOT THE TIME.

IT'S THE TIME.

IT'S THE TIME FOR DEVELOPERS AND CITIZENS AND GOVERNMENT TO ALL COME TOGETHER AND HASH OUT.

WE EACH HAVE A PERSPECTIVE AND TO COME INTO SOME SORT OF COLLABORATIVE DECISION THAT BENEFITS US ALL.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMMITMENT AGAIN FROM THE CITY THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE THE PROCESS THAT WAS INITIATED IN PHASE ONE, THAT THERE WILL BE OPEN DISCUSSIONS AND THAT OUR COMMENTS WILL BE RECORDED AND REPORTED AND THOUGHTFULLY HAVE AN ACTIONABLE PLAN FOR THEM.

AND IN PHASE ONE, THAT IS ALL TRANSPARENT, IT'S ALL APPARENT IN THE NOTES.

AND I FOUND IT VERY BENEFICIAL TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WHAT THEY WANT AND TO GIVE AND TAKE.

AND ONE OF MY BEST MEMORIES OF THAT PROCESS WAS JOAN UNCLE BROWN SITTING IN THE CORNER WITH DEVELOPERS.

THERE I WAS THERE, CITIZENS WERE THERE, AND WE WERE ALL TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES AND AND SHARING OUR PERSPECTIVE.

SO THERE ARE SOME HARD DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

AND I THINK THE WAY FORWARD IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS SET IN PHASE ONE.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

PAT THE HELPER FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE.

COME ON UP.

I WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD A DEVELOPER THAT WANTED TO PUT IN OVER 130 SOME UNITS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THE 500FT ONLY WENT TO THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE STRICTLY RIGHT AROUND THAT 17 ACRES.

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SO WHENEVER THERE'S A DEVELOPER THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP INSIDE A RESIDENTIAL AREA, I THINK IT SHOULD BE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE NOTIFIED.

AND I DID TALK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING PERSON, AND HE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT COMING TO THESE MEETINGS.

AND I SAID, WELL, MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO EXPAND TO 1000 OR 1500 FEET, OR MAYBE YOU JUST NEED TO GET IT TO THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO CARDINAL WOODS INCORPORATED PROBABLY 2 TO 300 NEIGHBORS, AND WE ONLY HAD MAYBE 5 OR 6 SHOW UP TO A PLANNING AND ZONING.

SO THAT SHOULD BE A CONSIDERATION IN THOSE PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOODS TRYING TO NOTIFY MORE THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY.

SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC.

YEAH. WE NEVER GOT TO FINISH WITH ASKING STAFF QUESTIONS.

WE KIND OF JUMPED ON MR. WISE. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MY MY QUESTION IS REGARDING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND NC ZONING DISTRICTS.

I RECALL COUNCILMAN WEINBERG AND MYSELF AND THE COUNCIL GIVEN THE DIRECTION TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S JUST COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

BUT READING THE READING, THE THREE BULLET POINTS, I DON'T SEE, I'M.

THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR ELABORATION FROM STAFF OR FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY.

I SEE THE USE HAS BEEN REMOVED AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS IN THE SCHEDULE OF USES TABLE, BUT NOT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

SO IF I CAN GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT, MADAM BROWN, OR I'M HAPPY TO TOUCH ON IT AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO MISS SMITH.

WE THE THE COMMENT THAT I HAD RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL WAS TO REMOVE CHARTER SCHOOLS FROM THE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IN TALKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THAT WE CANNOT TREAT A CHARTER SCHOOL ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN WE COULD A PUBLIC INSTITUTION.

NO, IT WASN'T A MOVE.

IT WAS TO REMOVE THE EDUCATIONAL ARM TO MOVE SCHOOLS AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

I THINK THAT WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER BECAUSE IT WAS A PERMITTED USE, WHETHER WE WERE GOING TO HAVE IT AS CONDITIONAL USE.

THEY MOVED ON TO A CONDITIONAL USE.

AND THEN IT WAS COUNCILMAN WEINBERG THAT SAYS IT SHOULDN'T BE A CONDITIONAL USE.

AND THERE WAS A DISCUSSION. WELL, IF IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, IF IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A LAND USE AND ZONING CHANGE.

AND ONE OR MORE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS DIDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

AND THERE WAS A MOTION AND IT WAS SECONDED, AND IT WAS APPROVED TO STRIKE THE SCHOOLS FROM BEING A CONDITIONAL USE IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD HAVE HAD TO THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPTION OF COMING BACK FOR A LAND USE CHANGE.

YES. AND THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION.

SO THAT WAY WE LEGALLY, THE CITY ATTORNEY SAID, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE ANOTHER OPTION FOR LAND USE CHANGE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS, WITHIN OUR LEGAL RIGHTS TO WHAT WE ALL AGREED.

BECAUSE THAT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR WE HAVE A LOT MORE AUTHORITY WITH LAND USE CHANGES.

WAS THE DISCUSSION HOW WE LEFT IT? YEAH. MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I THINK SOME OF THE CONFUSION COMES ABOUT BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITION OF EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS I'M INCLUDED IN THAT IS DANCE SCHOOLS, KARATE DOJOS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

THOSE ARE ALL CONSIDERED EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, BUT NOT AS WELL AS SCHOOLS.

SO I THINK THE CONFUSION COMES IN THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CHANGE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF CALLING THEM EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, SOME OTHER KIND OF DEFINITION.

BUT OFFHAND, I CAN'T THINK OF ONE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE THE CONFUSION CAME IN.

WHEREAS WE'RE JUST RESTRICTING IT TO NOT JUST NOT JUST CHARTER SCHOOLS, BUT ALL SCHOOLS OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, DANCE STUDIOS, THAT KIND OF STUFF. SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, REALLY, YOU'RE SPOT ON.

WE CAN COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU CAN LOOK AT AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEFINITION OF SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS, DANCE STUDIOS AND KARATE SCHOOLS AND THAT TYPE OF THING ISN'T INCLUDED IN SERVICE. RIGHT. ANY KIND OF TRAINING FACILITY LIKE THAT.

I THINK WE CAN CHANGE THAT DEFINITION.

SO WE ELIMINATE THAT CONFUSION.

MAYOR, MAY I? YES, MA'AM.

ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

WE DID CONFIRM THAT LATER ON WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND THAT IS HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE DEFINITION.

WE AMENDED THE DEFINITION FOR SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT PERSONNEL TO INCLUDE THOSE KARATE SCHOOLS, DANCE SCHOOLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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AND SO IT WAS JUST MY MY MISUNDERSTANDING ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.

SO IN STRIKING EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AS A CONDITIONAL USE IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIALS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ALSO HAS TO COME BACK.

OR CAN WE DO THAT? NO, THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.

IT JUST WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR THAT IS NOT IN THERE.

SO IF WE SUDDENLY PUT THEM BACK IN, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER READING BECAUSE COUNCIL REMOVED THEM LAST READING.

AND WE WANT THESE TO BE CONSISTENT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REMOVE IT CONSISTENT WITH HOW COUNCIL VOTED LAST MEETING.

SO STRIKING IT IS WHAT WE WOULD BE VOTING ON TODAY.

IS THAT CORRECT MADAM ATTORNEY? YES, BECAUSE IT SHOULD ALREADY BE STRICKEN.

SO YOU'RE VOTING TO SECOND.

YOU VOTED LAST TIME TO HAVE IT REMOVED FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND THIS READING YOU WOULD BE ADOPTING IT WITHOUT SCHOOL OR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS IN NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AS A CONDITIONAL USE.

SO THEY'RE BOTH MIRROR EACH OTHER.

SO WE WE ARE WE CRYSTAL ON THIS ONE? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

OUTSTANDING. ARE WE GOOD? YES, SIR. ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. I NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 20 2433.

GOT A MOTION? SECOND.

SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR.

MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

THAT INCLUDES THE STRIKING.

CORRECT. THAT THAT INCLUDES CORRECTING THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR.

YES, SIR.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I.

I MADE IT CLEAR.

YEAH. SHE SAID CRYSTAL.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2435, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 33 FIRE DEPARTMENT BY CREATING A NEW SUBCHAPTER, FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION.

BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU, SIR. I DEFER TO JOAN ON THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR.

THIS IS FINAL READING.

THIS IS JUST TAKING THE THAT SECTION OF THE CODE OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND PLACING IT INTO THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU. MA'AM.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD.

SINCE THIS WAS UNDER THE FIRE PREVENTION AND PROTECTION SECTION, I WAS DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH AND I NOTICED THAT IN OUR OUR SECOND BUDGET READING COMING UP ON THE 26TH, THAT UNDER FIRE INSPECTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WE'RE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE REQUESTED ALMOST HALF $1 MILLION FOR OUTSIDE SERVICES FOR FIRE INSPECTIONS INSTEAD OF USING IN-HOUSE INSPECTION.

SO I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT CURIOUS AS TO WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO USE OUR DO OUR OWN FIRE INSPECTIONS INSTEAD OF DOING ALMOST A HALF $1 MILLION FOR OUTSIDE SOURCE SOURCING.

JUST FOR CURIOSITY, I'D LIKE TO KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION I'M GOING TO TRY TO BRING UP ON THE 26TH.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. MADAM CHAIRMAN, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE FIRE CHIEF COME UP? IF YOU'D LIKE. CERTAINLY.

YES, SHE'S SOBER.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? I GUESS WE'LL SPEAK ABOUT THIS AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

BUT. GOOD EVENING.

YES. WHAT WE DID IN APRIL IS WE TAKEN AND DISBAND THE FIRE PREVENTION PREVENT FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WHAT THAT DID WAS CREATE A COST SAVINGS.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, IT ALLOWED US TO MOVE INTO A TRAINING DIVISION.

SO SO FAR, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CLEAN UP A LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES THAT WE FOUND IN THE FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION WHEN IT WAS UNDER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE REMOVED APPROXIMATELY 1500 DOUBLE OR, I'M SORRY, DUPLICATE AND TRIPLICATE INSPECTIONS THAT WERE IN THERE.

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THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE OUR FIRE INSPECTIONS TO A POINT WHERE THAT WE HIRED ON TWO PART TIME OR TWO OUTSIDE FIRE INSPECTORS FROM A COMPANY CALLED PDC USING A CURRENT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.

WHAT THAT'S DONE IS IT'S BROUGHT US TO A POINT TO WHERE WE AND I HAVE NOT ASKED FOR THIS YET.

WE'RE STILL RUNNING FINAL NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE FOR ANOTHER HALF OF AN FTE LATER DOWN THE ROAD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO COMPLETE 100% OF ALL OF THE FIRE INSPECTIONS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE.

SO WE'VE MAXIMIZED THE EFFICIENCIES OF THE TRAINING OF THE FIRE PREVENTION DIVISION BY CONTRACTING IT OUT TO PDCS.

WE'VE INCREASED THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS BEING DONE, THE QUALITY OF THE TURNAROUND, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO GO THROUGH AND REDUCE A LOT OF THE DUPLICATES THAT WERE IN THERE. AND WITH THAT TO DATE, WE HAVE PULL THIS UP OVER HERE.

WE HAVE BROUGHT IN OVER $5,000 SINCE APRIL, WHICH IT COST US 91 $96,680 FOR ONE INSPECTOR.

SO JUST SINCE APRIL, WE BROUGHT IN ENOUGH MONEY THROUGH THIS PRIVATE COMPANY TO PAY FOR ONE INSPECTOR, WE WERE DOING TWO.

SO OVER THE PERIOD OF A YEAR, YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE HAVE THESE ADDITIONAL COST SAVINGS, WHICH HELPED US AGAIN OFFSET THE COST AND INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY AND ALLOWED US TO CREATE A TRAINING DIVISION, WHICH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DIDN'T HAVE, WHICH IS VITAL TO MAKING SURE THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE SAFE AND DOING THE JOB CORRECTLY SO THEY CAN PROVIDE THE PROTECTION TO THE CITIZENS AND VISITORS OF THE CITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THIS FURTHER.

YES. JUST WANTED TO GIVE JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW FOR MASTER CHIEF NOW.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

OR DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? NO, SIR. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I.

PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 36, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES TITLED SEVEN TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES.

CHAPTER 74 STOPPING, STANDING AND PARKING.

SUBCHAPTER PARKING REGULATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU SIR. FOR THE NEXT SERIES, I WILL DEFER TO JOAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME INITIAL CHANGES PROPOSED TO THIS CHAPTER IN ADDITION TO MOVING THIS OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE HAD PROPOSED ADOPTING THE IT TRAFFIC DATA FOR MAXIMUM PARKING.

THAT IS TO AVOID HAVING SITUATIONS LIKE I BELIEVE LISA FRAZIER SHARED WALMART PLANNING PARKING FOR BLACK FRIDAY VERSUS THEIR EVERYDAY.

SO I IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING ELSE I WOULD JUST ASK THAT LISA COME UP.

OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL OKAY.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I I.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

ORDINANCE ORDINANCE 20 2437, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE SEVEN TRAFFIC AND VEHICLES BY CREATING CHAPTER 75 GOLF COURSE, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE AND PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MR. SHERMAN. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS IS MISS BROWN.

NO PROBLEM. THIS IS THE SAME COMMENT FOR I BELIEVE ALL OF THESE EXCEPT FOR ITEM PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER EIGHT.

WE ARE MOVING THESE CHAPTERS OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND INTO THE PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

NOW ON ITEM SIX, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2438.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

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TITLE NINE GENERAL REGULATIONS BY CREATING CHAPTER 102 PUBLIC NUDITY.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MADAM BROWN OR MADAM SHERMAN.

NO FURTHER COMMENTS. OKAY.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

NO FURTHER. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2439, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

ORDINANCES. TITLE NINE GENERAL REGULATIONS BY CREATING CHAPTER 103 CLOSURE AND ABANDONMENT OF EASEMENTS AND DRAINAGE RIGHTS AWAY, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

AND MADAM BROWN, NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 40.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY CREATING TITLE TEN IMPACT FEES.

CHAPTER 103 IMPACT FEES SUBCHAPTERS PARTS.

POLICE AND FIRE. IMPACT FEES.

TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.

IMPACT FEES AND WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES.

PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR.

ON THIS ONE WE DO HAVE A CHANGE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME OLDER LANGUAGE.

THE CITY CLERK ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED FOR US.

THAT DOESN'T FIT WITH HOW WE IDENTIFY OUR FEES.

NOW, FOR IMPACT FEES, WE HIRE RATE CONSULTANTS.

THEY GIVE US THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

COUNCIL ADOPTS IT. SO THE OLD LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO REMOVE BEFORE YOU APPROVE THIS IS THERE'S REALLY THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.

THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT IMPACT FEE ORDINANCE SECTIONS.

IT'S 103.05 AND 104.05 AND 103.05, WHICH AFFECTS ALL IMPACT FEES EXCEPT FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT FEES.

IT'S SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION TWO AND SUBSECTION FIVE.

AND THEN IN ONE OF SECTION 104.05, WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC IMPACT FEE SECTION, IT'S SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION THREE.

AND IN THESE SCENARIOS, ESSENTIALLY THE FEES ARE DESCRIBED AS HAVING AS WILL BE ANNUALLY ADJUSTED AND ANNUALLY ADJUSTED BY VARIOUS INDEXES AND INFLATIONARY TOOLS THAT WE DO NOT USE IN OUR CALCULATION OF FUTURE CHANGES TO IMPACT FEES.

SO THE REQUEST IS SIMPLY THAT WHEN YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ONE, THAT YOU INCLUDE THE ELIMINATION OF SECTION 103.05, SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION TWO AND SUBSECTION FIVE, AND THE ELIMINATION OF 104.05, SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION THREE. THANK YOU.

DID Y'ALL GET THAT IN MAKING A MOTION? OKAY. YOU GOT THAT? OKAY.

ANY ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF GENTLEMEN, REGARDING THIS ONE.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'LL BE SECONDING THIS MOTION.

MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 22, DASH 40 WITH THE REMOVAL OF 103.5, SUBSECTION C, SUBSECTION TWO, SUBSECTION FIVE, AND 104.5, SUBSECTION C AND SUBSECTION THREE.

SECOND. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ANY FURTHER COMMENTS? NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MADAM.

MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 41, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 201 SEWER USE SUBCHAPTER PRIVATE LIFT STATIONS BY INCLUDING PROVISIONS RELATED TO EMERGENCY POWER AND PUMPING EQUIPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

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AND MADAM CHAIRMAN, MADAM MAYOR, NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ITEM NUMBER TEN, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 20 2442, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20 UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING CHAPTER 204 STORMWATER MANAGEMENT UTILITY PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR THE INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

STAFF. NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY DEPP OR BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 11, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2443, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE BY CREATING CHAPTER 205 WATER SHORTAGE.

I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

EMERGENCY. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH. PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES.

PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MADAM BROWN, NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I FIND IT STRANGE WHERE MY GOVERNMENT CAN REGULATE WHAT FALLS ON MY OWN LAND THAT I STORE IN MY OWN RETENTION PONDS THAT I CAN'T USE UNLESS I FOLLOW THEIR GUIDELINES.

I FIND CONFLICT WITH THAT PERSONALLY BECAUSE I DO MY OWN WATER RETENTION.

I DON'T HAVE RUNOFF ON MY PROPERTY UNTIL IT REACHES AT LEAST TWO INCHES.

BUT YET WHEN WHEN I NEED TO USE THE WATER THAT I'VE RETAINED, I HAVE MY GOVERNMENT SAYING, YOU CAN'T DO THAT EXCEPT UNDER THESE SPECIFIC TIMES.

I PERSONALLY HAVE CONFLICT WITH THAT.

THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE MY GOVERNMENT IDENTITY THAT IS PUMPING WATER THAT THEY WON'T LET ME USE DOWN DEEP WELL INJECTIONS TO NEVER BE RECOVERED BECAUSE IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO BRING IT TO A USABLE STATE, TO NEVER BE RECOVERED.

BUT YOU'RE GOING TO REGULATE ME.

I PERSONALLY FIND FAULT WITH THAT.

THAT'S BEING.

THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

I DON'T LIKE OVERREACH OF MY GOVERNMENT.

BUT I DO KNOW ONE THING.

THE WATER THAT I KEEP ON MY PROPERTY IS REUSED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

NONE OF MY WATER IS EVER DEPLETED TO THE POINT THAT IT CAN NEVER BE RECOVERED OR RECYCLED.

YET WHAT MY GOVERNMENT IDENTITIES ARE DOING, THEY ARE USING WATER THAT GOES DOWN DEEP WELL INJECTIONS TO NEVER BE RECOVERED AGAIN, DEPLETING THE POTABLE WATER THAT WE HAVE ON THE SURFACE OF MOTHER EARTH.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU START REGULATING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN DO, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE BACK SIDE OF IT, OF SHAFTING THEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2447, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 55 POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS RETIREMENT PENSION PLAN BY MODIFYING PROVISIONS RELATED TO RETIREMENT DATES AND BENEFITS FOR POLICE OFFICERS.

MEMBERS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

MADAM SMITH OR MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL READING ON SOME OF THE PENSION PLAN CHANGES WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING.

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HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 13.

I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

PUBLIC HEARINGS, MADAM SMITH.

ORDINANCE 20 2448, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF THREE PAGES, AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN.

RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MADAM SHERMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS ALSO FINAL READING.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO ASK THE AUDIENCE.

ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASKING FOR A MOTION.

COUNCILMAN. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 14.

MISS SMITH ORDINANCE 20 2453.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR AND SIDE 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS LOCATED WITHIN LOT FOUR, BLOCK 2408, PORT MALABAR.

UNIT 45 ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22, PAGE 12 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ILLEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. MARRERO, COME PRESENT YOUR CASE.

OKAY. I'M ERIC MORALES.

MY WIFE, CYNTHIA MARRERO.

290 NAYLOR STREET PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

IN 1999, WE HAD THIS HOME CONSTRUCTED.

WE WERE VERY EXCITED.

WHAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF AT THE TIME BECAUSE WE WERE YOUNG AND NOT BUILT, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD HAVE AT THAT TIME, JUST NOT EXPERIENCED.

THERE WAS AN EASEMENT ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE DRAINAGE ON BOTH THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

20 FOOT COULD NOT PUT ANY PERMANENT STRUCTURES THERE.

SO WE FIGURED THAT NO BIG DEAL.

WE PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

THOUGHT MAYBE IT'D BE A THREE YEAR DEAL IN THE HOUSE.

FIVE YEARS WE'D MOVE ON.

CHILDREN, COME ALONG.

WE WANT TO PUT AN IN-GROUND POOL.

WE WANT TO PUT THE POOL BEHIND THE HOUSE.

WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS IN 2005, NOT VERY FORTUNATE.

WASN'T GRANTED A VACATE AT THAT TIME.

WE PUT THE POOL OFF TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE AS A PART OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS.

WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT SOME HEDGE VEGETATION LANDSCAPING TO BEAUTIFY THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT RUNS ALONG THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

WE MADE USE OF WHAT WE COULD DO AT THE TIME.

SO NOW HERE IN 2023 24.

WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT A HE SHED ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SOMETIMES THEY GET IN TROUBLE.

MY HE SHED IN THE GARAGE IS NOT FAR ENOUGH FROM MY WIFE SOMETIMES.

SO WE WANT TO PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

HERE WE GO AGAIN 20 FOOT EASEMENT BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE UTILITY EASEMENT.

SO WE'RE APPLYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THE EIGHT FOOT ON BOTH THE TWO SIDES OF THE HOUSE WHERE THE DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT ARE, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN MY SHED TO GET AWAY FROM HER WHEN I DO THINGS THAT ARE BAD BUT NOT TOO FAR AWAY, SO THAT WHEN SHE NEEDS ME TO COME BACK TO THE HOUSE AND DO THINGS ON THE HONEY DO LIST, I'M CLOSE ENOUGH WHERE SHE CAN YELL AND I CAN GO BACK AND HELP HER.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

METAL GARAGE FOR MY USE.

MY GARAGE FOR WHAT WE NEED.

YEAH. MISS THANK THANK THANK THANK YOU I LOVE I LOVE THE THE PRESENTATION.

RIGHT. AND AND I LOVE MOREOVER, I LOVE THE LOVE THAT YOU SHARE FOR ONE ANOTHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

32 YEARS. 32 YEARS OF MARRIAGE.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. WOW.

WOW. YOU. YOU MUST BE AWESOME.

YEAH. THAT'S AWESOME.

THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S AWESOME.

ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE HARD DECISION COULD COULD POTENTIALLY BE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING THIS WORK OR PUSH YOU GUYS TOWARDS COUNSELING.

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WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. SO I DON'T I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

NO, NO, THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT COME BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.

SO. SO I'M JUST SAYING.

YES, SIR, I GET THAT.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. MOREIRA? YES. THANK YOU.

THANK THANK YOU, THANK YOU, I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT.

ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

AYE. MR.. MR. MAYOR, IF I IF I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS.

I THINK WE'RE APPROVING THIS BECAUSE OF THEIR AWESOMENESS.

NUMBER ONE. AND SECONDLY, I JUST LIKE A GENERAL COMMENT.

WE GET THESE VACATIONS OF EASEMENT A LOT, OFTEN USUALLY PUT IN A POOL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I'D LIKE TO SEE US IN ALL THESE INSTANCES, RATHER THAN HAVE OUR CITIZENS SITTING AROUND WAITING FOR ALL THIS STUFF, IS TO ALWAYS MOVE THE VACATIONS OF EASEMENT TO NUMBER ONE ON ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WELL, WE'LL WE'LL NEED TO DO THAT WITH EMOTION.

SO JUST KEEP US KEEP US INFORMED ON THAT.

WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE TO DO THAT IN A MOTION.

SO. DULY NOTED.

SO NOW I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

RIGHT. ALL WELL? NO. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. MORELLO. GOD BLESS YOUR MARRIAGE.

OUTSTANDING BILL THAT HE SHARED SO WE'RE NOW GOING BACK TO CONSENT.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]

SO WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, MR. WEINBERG. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS AND GIVE KUDOS TO TO OUR HR DIRECTOR ON THIS IS THEY REVISITED THEIR INSURANCE BENEFITS AND WENT WITH A DIFFERENT COMPANY.

AND THE RESULT OF THAT IS, IS A SAVINGS OF OF $166,000 ANNUALLY IN OUR LONG TERM DISABILITY AND OVERALL FISCAL IMPACT OF A REDUCTION OF 5.1% OR $47,000.

I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO LAURA CLAWSON, OUR HR DIRECTOR.

THAT'S AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILWOMAN WEINBERG.

YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION? ABSOLUTELY. A MOTION TO TO APPROVE THE ITEM.

NUMBER ONE CONTRACT FOR LIFE AND DISABILITY BENEFITS.

CITY EMPLOYEES, HR DEPARTMENT.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I. WE ARE NOW.

PASSES FOUR ZERO.

WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, I SAW THE MODIFICATIONS OR THE OVERRUN THAT HAPPENED ON MITTON ROAD THAT REQUIRED FOR THE REQUEST FOR EXTENSIONS, BUT I COULD NOT SEE ANY KIND OF A BREAKDOWN THAT WAS ASKING FOR OVER COST OVERRUN ON WACO BOULEVARD AND WITHIN THE PACKET.

SO THAT'S JUST MY SIMPLE QUESTION.

I HAD TWO STREETS LISTED AND I COULD SEE NO OVERRUN ON WACO.

YES, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION.

THE PROJECT WAS BID OUT AS MINTON ROAD IN WACO.

TWO STREETS, ONE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHY THE TITLE INCLUDED BOTH.

BUT THERE WAS NO CHANGE TO THE WACO PART OF THE PROJECT.

THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, I WOULD HAVE PULLED THIS MYSELF.

IF IF MR. BATTEN DIDN'T, I BROUGHT THIS UP WITH WITH OUR CITY MANAGER AND WITHOUT WITHOUT POINTING FINGERS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THE CHANGE ORDERS ARE OF CONCERN TO US AND THE CITIZENS AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, THESE CHANGE ORDERS.

FRANKLY, IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

THESE THESE ITEMS, ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN FORESEEN.

THE STRIPING, THE CURBING AND THE AND THE TRAFFIC LOOP REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN, IN WHEN WE FIRST BID THIS OUT.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO SAY ON THAT AS FAR AS HAVING SAID THAT MOTION TO APPROVE THE ROAD BOND PAVING FOR MINTON ROAD AND WACO BOULEVARD, THE CHANGE ORDER NUMBER ONE SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX.

COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, YOU SPOT ON.

I THINK IN THIS CHANGEOVER, THERE HAVE BEEN DEFICIENCIES.

AND MOREOVER, WE'RE GOING BACK POLICING THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE DONE BY A FORMER EMPLOYEE SO THAT THAT IS THE RESULT OF THAT.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DOT OUR I'S AND CROSS OUR T'S.

BUT TO YOUR POINT.

EXACTLY. RIGHT.

BUT IDEALLY, WE DON'T HAVE CHANGEOVERS.

YEAH. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

SECONDER, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX.

AYE, AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

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WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MR. BARTON. BARTON 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

IN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY IS WORKING WITH, IT'S A LARGE SUM THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH, WITH THEIR INVESTMENTS.

I UNDERSTAND WHY THE GUIDANCE IS THAT THE COST THAT IT IS.

BUT WHAT I THOUGHT WAS STRANGE WAS WE HAVEN'T JUMPED IN THAT BIG OF AN INCREASE.

WELL, WE WENT FROM $34,000 A YEAR TO $115,000 A YEAR.

I DIDN'T THINK WE WERE INVESTING DIFFERENCE THAT MUCH TO MAKE SUCH A BIG JUMP.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TAKE 34,000, LAST YEAR IS WHAT WE PAID THE COMPANY, AND THIS YEAR WE HAVE TO PAY THEM 115,000.

THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT JUMP.

NOW, IF I'M GOING TO SEE THAT SAME AMOUNT OF INCREASE IN MY GUARANTEED INCOME, IT MIGHT WARRANT IT.

BUT IF I'M NOT GOING TO SEE THAT, SEE THAT AMOUNT, THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT COMPANY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN TREATING US WELL AND THEY'VE BEEN SUCCEEDING.

AND THE WHOLE THING IS LOOK AT YOUR BUDGET, SAVE WHERE YOU CAN SAVE, BECAUSE THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT JUMP.

34,000 LAST YEAR TO 115,000 NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE DETAILS OF WHAT HAS ENSUED WITH THE AMOUNT OF OR THE VOLUME, IF ANYTHING.

YES, SIR. AND I'LL CORRECT ALSO.

WHEN WE ACTUALLY FIRST PUT THIS, THE FIRST YEAR WE HAD THIS IN PLACE, THE AMOUNT WE SPENT WAS ABOUT 41,000.

WE THOUGHT THE PROJECTION ORIGINALLY WAS THE 39,000 YOU'RE REFERRING TO IN THE FIRST YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, BUT WE EXCEEDED THAT IN THE FIRST YEAR.

THE SECOND YEAR IN 2022, IT WAS ABOUT 49,000.

IN 23, IT WAS 80,000.

IN FISCAL YEAR 24 IS 105,000.

AND IN THIS FY 25, OUR PROJECTION.

EXCUSE ME, I SHOULD SAY OUR FY 24 END OF YEAR TOTAL ESTIMATE IS 105,000.

AND THEN OUR 25 PROJECTION IS 124,000.

SO IT'S BEEN BUILDING BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN INCREASING IN OUR, OUR MONEY THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO INVEST.

AND SO WE'RE ACTIVELY INVESTING, AS WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT AT A RECENT COUNCIL MEETING, AS MUCH CASH AS WE HAVE AVAILABLE, WHETHER IT'S IMPACT FEES, ROAD BOND PROCEEDS, ETC.

WE ARE INVESTING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO THE VERY BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO GET A LOT OF INTEREST OFF OF THAT.

SO THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY ON THIS IS THAT THIS IS AN ITEM THAT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S EXCEEDING $100,000 IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR SPEND AUTHORITY. BUT ALL OF THESE COSTS ARE COVERED THROUGH THE THE INVESTMENTS IN THE DIFFERENT FUNDS THAT THEY COME OUT OF.

THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? NO, SIR. SEEING NONE.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

RESOLUTION MR..

OH, NO. YOU'RE GOING FIRST.

RESOLUTION 20 26.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 20 2335, AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTIONS 2024, ZERO TWO, 2024.

THAT'S 13 AND 2024.

THAT'S 24 ADOPTED IN CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS, AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 THROUGH 2024, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU MA'AM. BILL 86 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS WAS KIND OF A SIMPLE QUESTION.

I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE GAIN FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THE PAY PLAN POSITIONS, WHAT WOULD YOU KNOW? BECAUSE SOME OF THEM LOOK, BY MY STANDARD, I'M AN OLD MAN, 73 YEARS OLD.

WHAT I THINK IS A LOT OF MONEY EVIDENTLY IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY ANYMORE.

BUT SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THESE THESE PAY PLANS.

HOW MUCH DID THEY INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR? OKAY. IT JUST I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT MY INFLATION RATE IS GOING ON ON WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY THE EMPLOYEES.

I WOULD HAVE TO TALK TO MR. BATTEN TO GET A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON HIS QUESTION.

WE'VE. EVERY TIME WE UPDATE A UNION CONTRACT, THE PAY PLANS IN THOSE UNION CONTRACTS CHANGES.

SO THERE'S A EACH CONTRACT IS DIFFERENT.

AND SO FROM YEAR TO YEAR, THERE ARE INCREASES THAT ARE BUILT INTO THOSE PAY PLANS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER.

AND THEN THE INCREASES THAT APPLY TO GENERAL EMPLOYEES EACH YEAR, SOMETIMES THOSE ARE APPLIED TO THE PAY PLAN AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT.

SO WE COULD CERTAINLY TALK MORE ABOUT I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION JUST STRAIGHT AWAY.

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SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO.

I KNOW ITEM EIGHT WAS WITHDRAWN, BUT BUT YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS.

I WANT, YOU KNOW, FOR YOU TO KNOW FOR, FOR STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE BECAUSE THIS IS COMING DOWN.

IT'S TABLED TO I THINK THE OCTOBER 17TH MEETING.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS AVID ABOUT THESE PROJECTS ANYWAYS.

BUT IT'S WITHDRAWN.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

SO WE'RE NOW ON OLD AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS.

[UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]

YES, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT WILLIAM KOLEHMAINEN.

I'M PROBABLY SAYING IT WRONG TO THE ADULT MEMBER POSITION ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD.

SECOND. I GOT A MOTION.

IS THERE IS THE GENTLEMAN HERE? IS WILLIAM HERE? WILLIAM? NO. OKAY.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY DISCUSSION THAT YOU LOVE THAT BOARD.

SO YOU'RE TRYING TO GET HIM BACK ON? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

YES, MAYOR.

I'M BRINGING FORTH ATTORNEY TRAVIS WALKER HE'S WITH THE LAW FIRM, THE LAW OFFICES OF TRAVIS R WALKER.

HE IS PROPOSING TO REPRESENT THE CITY IN LITIGATION AGAINST PERSONS OR BUSINESSES THAT FACILITATE OR ARE INVOLVED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING WITHIN THE CITY.

THE REPRESENTATION WOULD BE ON A CONTINGENCY FEE BASIS.

HE'S HERE TODAY.

HE'S GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION AND BE AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS ANY OF COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. CARRY ON.

SIR. THANKS FOR THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD.

TRAVIS WALKER HERE ON BEHALF OF THE LAW OFFICES OF TRAVIS WALKER.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE AND HONOR OF SPEAKING WITH YOUR CITY ATTORNEY AND MEETING A FEW OF YOU AT THE BREAKFAST FOR THE CITY FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WAS DISCUSSING THE DANGERS, THE PROBLEMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND HOW IT IS TERRIBLE AND WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS THE THIRD LARGEST STATE WITH REGARDS TO TRAFFICKING THAT'S OCCURRING.

AND WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH OUR PROPOSAL AND WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING.

SO SUBJECT REPRESENTATION THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND LITIGATION AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING LOCATIONS AND ESTABLISHMENTS INVOLVING OR FACILITATING HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND DOING THIS ON A CONTINGENCY FEE BASIS, A CONTINGENCY FEE, MEANING THAT WE DON'T RECOVER ANY OF OUR ATTORNEY'S FEES UNLESS WE RECOVER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

A BACKGROUND ON PURPOSE.

HUMAN TRAFFICKING HAS BECOME A GROWING ISSUE IN MANY MUNICIPALITIES, INCLUDING PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY SEEKS LEGAL REPRESENTATION TO ACT AGAINST ESTABLISHMENTS THAT FACILITATE OR ARE INVOLVED IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING WITHIN THE CITY, SIMILAR TO THE OPIOID LITIGATION PURSUED BY VARIOUS CITIES AND STATES.

THIS LITIGATION MODEL SEEKS TO HOLD RESPONSIBLE PARTIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR CONTRIBUTING TO A PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY CRISIS.

SO THE MODEL THAT WE'RE USING IS IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THE WHAT WAS USED IN THE OPIOID CRISIS.

THE GOAL OF THE LITIGATION HOLD BUSINESSES AND ENTITIES ACCOUNTABLE FOR KNOWINGLY FACILITATING HUMAN TRAFFICKING, TO SEEK INJUNCTIVE RELIEF OR SHUT DOWN A REGULATED ESTABLISHMENTS INVOLVED IN TRAFFICKING ACTIVITIES.

THREE RECOVER FINANCIAL DAMAGES INCURRED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS A RESULT OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING, INCLUDING COSTS RELATED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, SOCIAL SERVICES, AND HEALTH CARE.

AND FINALLY ESTABLISH DETERRENCE FOR FUTURE VIOLATIONS.

THE CAUSES OF ACTION.

I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THEM REALLY QUICKLY.

BUT THESE ARE ALSO MIRROR THE SAME CAUSES OF ACTION THAT WERE IN THE OPIOIDS.

BECAUSE OPIOIDS CREATED A EPIDEMIC OF PROBLEMS IN CITIES AND COUNTIES, AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS DOING ALMOST THE SAME IDENTICAL THING.

PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHICH IS BASICALLY ANY TYPE OF NUISANCE THAT CREATES CRIME, VIOLENCE AND PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

NEGLIGENCE. BUSINESSES FAILING TO TAKE REASONABLE MEASURES TO PROTECT THE CITY AND COUNTY BASED UPON THE PREMISES LIABILITY.

UNJUST ENRICHMENT ESTABLISHMENTS THAT HAVE PROFITED FROM ILLEGAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

BENEFITING FINANCIALLY WHILE THE CITY BEARS THE COST OF ADDRESSING THE HARM CAUSED BY THESE OPERATIONS.

OF RICO, IF IT APPLIES, AND IT MAY IF THE BUSINESS IS ENGAGED IN A PATTERN OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY, INCLUDING HUMAN TRAFFICKING, THEY MAY BE HELD LIABLE UNDER CIVIL RICO STATUTES.

NEGLIGENCE OR INTENTIONAL MISREPRESENTATION.

BUSINESSES MAY HAVE MISREPRESENTED THE NATURE OF THEIR OPERATIONS OR FAILED TO DISCLOSE KNOWN HUMAN TRAFFICKING TRAFFICKING ACTIVITIES OCCURRING ON THEIR PREMISES.

MISLEADING THE CITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT CONSPIRACY ENTITIES AND INDIVIDUALS MAY HAVE CONSPIRED TO FACILITATE HUMAN TRAFFICKING, VIOLATING FEDERAL AND STATE ANTI-TRAFFICKING LAWS. AND FINALLY, FRAUD.

CERTAIN ESTABLISHMENTS MAY HAVE ENGAGED IN FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR TO CONCEAL TRAFFICKING OPERATIONS, INCLUDING FALSIFYING BUSINESS LICENSES OR MISREPRESENTING THE NATURE OF THEIR

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BUSINESS TO AUTHORITIES.

SO IT'S A THREE FOLD LEGAL STRATEGY.

INVESTIGATING EVIDENCE GATHERING.

WE. WE ARE PARTNERED WITH A AI SOFTWARE THAT GOES AND COMBS THE THE DARK WEB.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, IF PEOPLE ARE STUPID ENOUGH TO HAVE CHILD SEX PORNOGRAPHY ON THEIR LAPTOPS AND THEIR TEACHERS AT SCHOOL, THEY'RE ALSO STUPID ENOUGH TO LEAVE REVIEWS ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND HOW THEY'RE DOING IT.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO COMB THE DARK WEB, AND WE'RE USING THE INVESTIGATION AND EVIDENCE GATHERING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN PROVE CONSTRUCTIVE.

NOTICE THAT THEY KNEW OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN WAS GOING ON.

A MULTIFACETED APPROACH PURSUE BOTH CIVIL LITIGATION AND COLLABORATE WITH CRIMINAL PROSECUTORS WHEN POSSIBLE, TO MAXIMIZE PRESSURE ON BUSINESSES.

AND FINALLY, PUBLIC RELATIONS AND POLICY WORK WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO DEVELOP PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS THAT ALIGN WITH LITIGATION AND PROPOSED POLICY REFORMS THAT COMPLEMENT THE LEGAL STRATEGY.

AGAIN, THE FEE ARRANGEMENT IS STRICTLY ONLY IF WE RECOVER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

NO. NO MONEY OUT OF POCKET FOR THE CITY.

THIS LITIGATION WOULD BE PURSUED ON A CONTINGENCY FEE BASIS.

WE WOULD BEAR ALL UPFRONT LEGAL COSTS, FILING FEES, EXPERT WITNESSES, INVESTIGATIONS WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT COMPENSATION WILL BE RECOVERED FROM SUCCESSFUL LITIGATION SETTLEMENTS OR JUDGMENTS.

AND THIS LITIGATION STRATEGY, MODELED AFTER SUCCESSFUL OPIOID LITIGATION TACTICS, IS DESIGNED TO HELP BUSINESSES HOLD BUSINESSES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ROLE IN PERPETUATING HUMAN TRAFFICKING WITHIN PALM BAY, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING FINANCIAL RELIEF TO THE CITY BY PURSUING THIS CASE ON A CONTINGENCY FEE BASIS.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY CAN SEEK JUSTICE WITHOUT BEARING THE FINANCIAL RISK OF THE LITIGATION UP FRONT.

SO I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND SO I GUESS I'LL KICK IT OFF.

SO IN LAYMAN'S TERM, RIGHT.

BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND ATTORNEYS CAN, YOU KNOW, DESCRIBE THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, RIGHT.

YES, SIR. SO IN LAYMAN'S TERM, OR THE FOLKS THAT YOU'RE GOING AFTER RIGHT TO IN IN THE COURTS TO GET THESE FINANCES, OUR ACTUAL INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE PROFITED FROM HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

CORRECT? YES, YOUR HONOR. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MORE OF A KIND OF LIKE A FORFEITURE SEIZURE OF THEIR FUNDS, RIGHT? THEIR PROFITS, SO TO SPEAK, THEIR PROFITS.

YEAH. ANY THE WAY THAT IT WORKS IS IF THEY ARE PROFITING OFF OF THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

YES, THAT WE WOULD BE GOING TO RECOUP THAT.

AND THEN ALSO THE IMPACTS THAT THEY'VE HAD BY ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN.

AND SO BASED ON THE AMOUNT THAT YOU RECEIVE THAT THAT CONTINGENCY WE WOULD GAIN AFTER YOUR FEES.

YES, SIR. AND YOU'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY THESE CULPRITS BASED ON AI AND YOU'RE TRACKING THE DARK WEB.

YES, SIR. AS AS WELL.

YES. AND IT'S WITHIN OUR BORDERS.

YES, SIR. COPY THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. WALKER. WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE REPRESENTING IN THIS IN THIS MANNER? AS OF YET, PALM BAY WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE.

AND ACTUALLY, THAT WOULD ALLOW PALM BAY TO BE A LEADER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

SO I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.

AND OF COURSE, ANY ACTION YOU TAKE WOULD BE AGAINST COMPANIES OR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE STRICTLY LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

NO, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR COMING, SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOU SPOKE TO ME AT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, SO I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

YES, SIR. BUT I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, BACK IN 2018, PALM BAY WAS THE FIRST FOR THE OPIOID LITIGATION.

SO HERE WE ARE AGAIN.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, SIR.

NO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LITIGATION.

PART IS IS CRITICAL.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE EXPOSING AND YOU'RE RAISING THE AWARENESS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS AN INDUSTRY.

SO I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING THAT AND USING AI TO, TO TO HELP YOU EXPLORE THAT.

THAT DOES NEED TO GET SHUT DOWN.

I'M MADAM.

MADAM ATTORNEY.

WHAT? WHAT OTHER DO YOU NEED US TO MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO PROCEED ON THIS LINE? OR DO YOU JUST NEED CONSENSUS? YES. IF YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT AUTHORIZES ME TO ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH HIM ON A CONTINGENCY BASIS FOR HUMAN TRAFFICKING. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

MR. BILL. HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

ITEM. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.

YEAH. MASTER CHIEF BATTEN, WE'LL LET YOU COME BACK UP IF NEED BE, SIR.

AFTER WATCHING THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE THIS PRESENTATION IN THE PACKET WHEN I WAS REVIEWING IT, SO THAT WOULD HAVE ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.

THE FIRST ONE, THE FIRST QUESTION, THOUGH, WAS CURRENTLY MOST OF THESE THINGS ARE IN LAW AGAINST THE LAW AS IT IS.

AND AS WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT'S THERE, I'M ASSUMING THAT OUR CURRENT POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ALREADY DOING THAT AND PROSECUTING AND CATCHING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRAFFICKING AND

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OR TRAFFICKING.

SO THAT'S WHAT MY FIRST QUESTION WAS.

IS ANY OF THIS GOING TO BE USED TO THE ABILITY TO OFFSET WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TO EXPEND IN IN THEIR CASES, BECAUSE BEFORE IT CAN GET TO COURT, THERE'S GOING TO BE A POLICE POLICE REPORT SOMEPLACE.

I'M HOPING THAT'S THE CASE.

SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION, WAS MAKING SURE THAT SOME OF THIS FUND GOES TO OFFSET WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD TO THEIR OUTLAY AND THEIR TIME, BECAUSE I'M SURE A LOT OF IT'S THEIR TIME ALSO FOR THEIR INVESTIGATORS.

AND THE SECOND QUESTION WAS, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS TO FIND THE ADDRESS FOR THE DARPA DARK WEB THAT EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT.

I TYPE IT IN AND I CAN'T FIND THAT ADDRESS ANYWHERE.

IF SOMEBODY COULD PLEASE HELP ME, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

IT'S SO DARK, YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

SO, MASTER CHIEF, YOU'RE SPOT ON.

THAT'S WHY I HAD SAID THIS MUST WORK.

MUST WORK SIMILAR TO THE FORFEITURE.

DRUG FORFEITURE, I WOULD IMAGINE.

BUT COME ON UP, SIR, BECAUSE THAT WAY THAT'S ALSO TIED UP IN IN LEGALS.

BUT IT WOULD GO TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, SO CARRY ON, SIR.

NO. YEAH. I MEAN, JUST TO JUST TO SAME SAME AS YOU JUST INDICATED WITH REGARDS TO FORFEITURE.

ALSO AS WE KNOW, THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WORKS VERY HARD AND WE GIVE A LOT OF HONOR TO WHAT THEY DO.

BUT THE THE STANDARD OF PROOF IN A CRIMINAL CASE IS BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT AS OPPOSED TO A PREPONDERANCE OF AN EVIDENCE.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ABLE TO GO AFTER THEM MORE EFFECTIVELY IN A CIVIL WAY AND TAKE IT OUT.

PLUS, THE COST OF WIRETAPS ARE EXTRAORDINARY.

SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR, MR. MAYOR. YES, SIR.

YEAH. IF I MAY, MR. WALKER IN REGARDS TO WHAT MR. BURTON BROUGHT UP, I KNOW WITH THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT CITY IS RESTRICTED TO WHAT THEY CAN USE THE MONEY RECOVERED FOR.

IT HAS TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR PROGRAMS TO HELP THOSE THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT ANY MONEY RECOVERED IN THIS SITUATION WOULD ALSO BE RESTRICTED TO TO WHATEVER REQUIREMENTS THAT THE COURT WOULD SET.

IN OTHER WORDS, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO REIMBURSE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR, FOR FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR WORK ON, ON ANYTHING LIKE THIS, BUT IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COURT TO HOW THE MONEY COULD BE USED.

CORRECT? IT WOULD BE UP TO THE COURTS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD STRUCTURE THE COMPLAINT TO PROVIDE THE MOST FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

BUT IT KIND OF TO DIFFERENTIATE, NOT TO GO INTO THE LEGALESE WEEDS TOO MUCH.

THE OPIOID LITIGATION WAS WHAT WE CALL A MULTIDISTRICT LITIGATION ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS FILING HERE LOCALLY, AND SO WE WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE CONTROL OVER THE CASE AS OPPOSED TO IT GOING TO CLEVELAND, WHICH IS WHERE I THINK WHERE THE OPIOID LITIGATION WAS. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S WHY I SAID ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE ALL GOOD.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

RAISING THE AWARENESS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

TRAFFICKING IS CRITICAL.

THANK YOU. SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. SO, MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU NEED A MOTION.

BUT I THINK SOME OF THE DISCUSSION IS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, KIND OF LIKE DRUG FORFEITURE FUNDS.

AND THEY, THEY HAVE THEY CAN PUT THAT FUNDING IN.

HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO KEEP IT KIND OF LIKE OPEN.

TRY TO GET THAT FROM THE COURTS TO NOT RESTRICT THE CITY.

SO THAT WOULD I THINK WHAT I HEARD ON COUNCIL IS THAT THAT FUND SHOULD PROBABLY PREDOMINANTLY GO TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN A MOTION FOR THAT OR.

NO, BECAUSE ONCE HE ENTERED INTO THOSE LAWSUITS AND HE'S THINKING ABOUT SETTLING OR WE'RE GETTING JUDGMENT, JUST LIKE WITH ALL THE OTHER CASES, THOSE THINGS WOULD COME BACK DEPENDING ON THE AMOUNTS, BE WHETHER THE CITY MANAGER AND I ARE ASKING YOU TO MOVE FUNDS HERE OR THERE, BUT YOU ALL BE, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE. AT LEAST WE ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE LAWSUITS.

AND JUST LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER CASES, YOU ALL WOULD BE PART OF THOSE AS FAR AS HOW WE WOULD RESOLVE THEM.

AND THEN ONCE WE RECOVER ANY FUNDS, CERTAINLY DIRECTING US AS HOW THOSE FUNDS WOULD BE EXPENDED.

BUT RIGHT NOW, I JUST NEED YOU ALL TO AUTHORIZE ME TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM TO GET THIS CONTRACT.

THANK YOU. SO I NEED A MOTION.

I'LL BE SECONDING IT. SO MOVED.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO.

MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS A LATE AGENDA REVISION FOR A TRAVEL TRAINING ITEM.

THIS IS FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL WILL PERIODICALLY GET CALLED UP TO GO TO BUILDING CODE ADMINISTRATORS AND INSPECTORS BOARD MEETINGS.

AND WE ONLY GET A COUPLE OF WEEKS NOTICE WHEN THOSE ARE HAPPENING AND WHEN MEMBERS OF OUR TEAM ARE GOING BEFORE THIS BOARD TO RECEIVE VARIOUS CERTIFICATIONS AND THINGS.

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SO, AND LICENSURE.

SO THIS IS REALLY JUST A TRAVEL MEMO TO ALLOW OUR CHIEF BUILDING, EXCUSE ME, IN THIS CASE OUR DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL TO TRAVEL TO AN OVERNIGHT MEETING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. COULD YOU JUST COVER WHY THIS WASN'T ON THE AGENDA INITIALLY? YES. THIS BOARD, THE STATE BOARD, THEY ONLY RELEASED THE NAMES OF OF OUR OF ANY FOLKS THAT ARE GOING BEFORE THE BOARD, LIKE 1 OR 2 WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETINGS.

SO THAT'S WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE TO TRAVEL TO GO THERE.

AND THESE ARE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE WORKING FOR US WHO ARE BEING TRAINED UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL OR THE DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND THEY HAVE TO GO AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THEIR THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THAT PERSON'S, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING AND APTITUDE, ETC..

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR ON THIS ONE? NEW BUSINESS NUMBER TWO.

OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

WE'RE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.

COUNCILMAN WEINBERG.

[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST ONE THING I WANT TO COMMENT ON.

ALTHOUGH I MIGHT BE STEPPING ON YOUR TOES A LITTLE BIT, I HAD THE HONOR OF GOING TO THE GROUNDBREAKING FOR OUR NEW FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN ALONG WITH CHIEF STOVER AND PRETTY MUCH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THIS AND WILL BE INVOLVED IN IT.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY.

IT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP OUR RESPONSE TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THE CITY, AND I WAS JUST REALLY HAPPY TO TAKE PART IN IT.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN WEINBERG.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THANK YOU.

MAYOR. MAYOR, I HAVE 3 TO 4 THINGS.

FIRST THING. I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF'S BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO ALL OF COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THE PARK REFERENDUM DEBACLE WITH THE COUNTY, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR US JUST TO GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION ON MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

IF IT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN GIVEN, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.

SO YEAH.

SO I'M GOING TO WEIGH IN WITH YOU ON THAT.

I THINK WE DO HAVE AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT I JUST WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO REMEMBRANCE.

RIGHT. PARK REFERENDUM THAT AFFECTS OUR OUR CITIZENS.

RIGHT. THEY'RE THEY'RE PAYING PART OF THAT, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY OF THOSE RESIDUALS.

AND YET WE HAVE THE PALM BAY AQUATIC CENTER.

WE HAVE THE SENIOR CENTER TO BE GO BY A DIFFERENT NAME HOPEFULLY SOON.

RIGHT. AND WE ALSO HAD FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK THAT THE CITY RECEIVED THOSE FROM THE COUNTY.

SO NOW WE'RE POTENTIALLY WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT COUNTY COMMISSIONERS COMING TO THE DAIS IN NOVEMBER.

RIGHT. SO THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE THAT DIALOG.

BEFORE WE WE DIDN'T HAVE KIND OF LIKE THAT OPEN DOOR IF YOU WILL.

SO PERHAPS NOW WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO INFORM STAFF, HEY, LET'S MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU AND I HAVE BEEN ON THAT SAME PAGE FOR A MINUTE.

WE'VE PUBLICLY DISCLOSED THAT TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THOSE RESIDUALS FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE PROPERTIES.

SO IF COUNCIL AND I.

I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH COUNCILMAN.

JOHNSON CAN DIRECT STAFF TO.

HEY, WHEN WHEN THE NEW COMMISSIONERS COME ON BOARD, LET'S EXPLORE ALL THOSE AVENUES.

I WOULD, I WOULD SAY, YES, WE SHOULD WE SHOULD TRY AND HAVE A DIALOG AND SEE HOW THAT COULD WORK OUT.

I'M SURE WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE CITY ATTORNEY INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL.

SO, BUT YOU YOU HAVE A HUGE THUMBS UP FROM ME HERE.

SO ABSOLUTELY, I AGREE, I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

YEAH. I JUST WANT TO ASK NOW, WOULD IT NOT BE MAYBE HAVE ALL STAFF START ENGAGING? IT SOUNDS TO ME IT'S MORE OF A COUNTY MANAGER ISSUE AT THIS POINT.

I MEAN, I MEAN, WE MAY NEED MAYBE THE POLITICAL ASPECT TO WEIGH IN, BUT I THINK THE CONVERSATION SHOULD HAVE BEEN BASED ON OUR DIRECTION. YEAH.

WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION SEVERAL TIMES ON THIS DAIS.

YEAH. THIS CONVERSATION SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ENGAGED.

WELL, I GET THE POLITICAL ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW COME TO PLAY.

BUT. BUT I THINK THE CONVERSATION SHOULD BE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.

YEAH. COUNTY MANAGER.

ADMINISTRATION. THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS.

AND IF WE NEED TO LEAN ON ON THE POLITICAL ASPECT, WE WOULD.

I'D SAY. I MEAN, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST HOW MUCH I'M IN SUPPORT OF IT.

YEAH. YOU MAY HAVE MORE INTEL THAN I AM, BUT I'D SAY, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD START THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.

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YES, SIR. I'M IN FULL AGREEMENT WITH YOU.

KEEP IN MIND, WE HAVE WE HAVE TO GET THREE VOTES OUT OF THE FIVE, AND.

AND IF IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TWO VOTES ON THAT DAIS, IT'S YEAH.

AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S BEEN THE CHALLENGE.

AND I'M JUST BEING TRANSPARENT HERE.

BUT YES, I'LL AGREE.

THE DISCUSSIONS SHOULD GO ON WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT, WITH THE COUNTY MANAGER.

HOWEVER YOU KNOW IT.

THEY HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE.

WE WILL ASK HIM WHAT'S WHAT'S OURS, WHAT BELONGS TO US.

WE WE'RE NOT BEGGING FOR ANYTHING.

I MEAN, THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

BUT I DIGRESS.

MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY JUST POINT OUT, YOU'RE RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT COMES DOWN TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION.

AND DON'T FORGET, THE COUNTY MANAGER TAKES DIRECTION FROM THE COUNTY COMMISSION, JUST AS AS OUR CITY MANAGER TAKES DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO. BUT WE'RE ON BOARD.

YES, WE'RE ALL ON BOARD.

SO, MADAM SHERMAN IF THAT DIALOG COULD, COULD ENSUE.

WE'VE DISCUSSED IT ENOUGH ON THIS DAIS.

YOUR OTHER ITEMS? YES. I GOT THREE MORE, SIR.

YOU SAID THREE TO BEGIN WITH.

WELL, I SAID THREE. I SAID 3 TO 4.

YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY, I COULD TABLE ONE FOR NEXT TIME, SO I WON'T TALK.

IT'S ALMOST 10:00.

SO THE TWO TWO TOP ONES TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, A FEW COUNCIL MEETINGS AGO, YOU MENTIONED HOW WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON TRYING TO FIND INNOVATIVE WAYS OF REACHING OUT TO THE YOUTH.

I WAS APPROACHED BY AN ORGANIZATION CALLED SEVEN MINDSETS, AND I MET WITH THEM.

THEY'VE ALREADY MET WITH JOHN THOMAS AND KATIE CAMPBELL, AND THEY'RE MAKING THEIR WAY WORKING AROUND MEETING WITH ALL THE OTHER SCHOOL BOARD COMMISSIONERS.

BUT I INSTRUCTED STAFF THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THEM AND THE SUPERINTENDENT, SHERIFF WAYNE IVEY, AND A FEW OTHERS FROM OUR STAFF, BECAUSE AND THE CHIEF BECAUSE THEY USE COMMUNITY CENTERS, THEY DO AFTER SCHOOL, LIKE LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THEY THEY HIT IT ON THE HEAD WHEN WE DISCUSSED AND THEIR TO THE MAYOR, SORRY, TO THE PASTOR'S POINT.

THE SEVEN MINDSETS OR SEVEN PRINCIPLES THAT ARE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT, SEVEN BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES, AND THEY WENT ONE BY ONE AND SHOWED HOW IT'S BACKED.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO GET BACK TO.

AND I SAW IT IN THE PRESENTATION, THE TWO DATES THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT BECAUSE THEY'RE FLYING PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER, FROM THEIR EXECUTIVE TEAM.

I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH THEM, SO I WAS HOPING YOU CAN MAKE IT TO THE MEETING.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT TWO DATES OCTOBER 14TH AT 9:30 A.M.

AND OCTOBER 28TH, 9:30 A.M..

SO A MONTH FROM NOW.

BUT THEY JUST ARE TRYING TO GET AHEAD.

SO THAT WAY THEY KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE.

THEY CAN BOOK FLIGHTS ON EITHER DATE TO FLY OUT, BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO DATES.

MRS SHERMAN KNOWS ABOUT IT.

A FEW OTHER STAFF MEMBERS KNOW ABOUT IT AS WELL.

BUT SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING.

SO SO THE DETAILS ARE MORE OF THEY'RE COMING IN TO KIND OF LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, PARTNER WITH US WITH PROBABLY THE EVANS CENTER AND THE COMMUNITY CENTERS AND SUCH.

YES, SIR. IS THAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS? YES, SIR. OKAY.

AND WHAT THE VISION IS, WHAT CAN THE PROGRAMS THEY COULD BRING? YEP. AND WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL, THEY THEY'RE ALREADY IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.

OKAY. THEY'RE ALREADY IN ORANGE COUNTY.

OUT IN TOLEDO.

THEY THEY SAY THE IMPACT THEY'VE HAD WITH THE YOUTH.

I CAN'T GET THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE, THEY HAD, LIKE 83 MURDERS, AND THE FOLLOWING YEAR IT WAS LIKE 20 SOMETHING, SO.

SO YOU'VE GOT THEY'VE GOT BEST PRACTICES.

YES, SIR. LAID OUT? YES, SIR.

OKAY. SO THEY'RE BRINGING OUT THEIR WHOLE TEAM BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE AN IMPACT WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH I THINK THE TIMING COULDN'T BE BETTER WITH.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT METAL DETECTORS.

WE'RE HAVING KIDS STABBED WITH SCISSORS.

SO. SO YOU HAVE TWO.

YOU HAVE A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND POTENTIALLY ONE THAT'S GETTING SWORN IN, THAT'S AWARE OF ALL OF THIS.

YES, SIR. OKAY. YES, SIR.

THAT'S COOL. MADAM SHERMAN I'VE GOT A THUMBS UP ON THIS.

WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON ON GETTING THAT TIME WITH OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS AND AND EVEN CHANGING THE NAME.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP A PRO DEVELOP PROGRAMS. BUT ALSO I THOUGHT WE WERE DISCUSSING HAVING FOLKS DO GO THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS FOR THE EVANS CENTER.

WASN'T THAT PART OF THE DISCUSSION? WELL, YES, BUT BUT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING FOR THE GREATER PALM BAY.

WELL, OR COMMUNITIES THE GREATER PALM BAY COMMUNITY CENTER.

POTENTIALLY. ALL RIGHT.

SO SO I JUST WE WE MADE YOU MADE AN ASK, AND THEN THEY SEEM TO HAVE, LIKE, THE SWISS ARMY KNIFE.

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THEY ADDRESSED EVERYTHING. THAT'S GOOD.

THE SEVEN. YEAH.

I'M GOOD. AND THEN TO THAT LAST POINT CO-SPONSORSHIPS.

I KNOW I'VE BEEN ONE STRONGLY AGAINST, BUT IN THIS CASE, I'M STRONGLY FOR.

I'VE SEEN OTHER CITIES DO IT.

AND HOW WE HAVE FIRST FRIDAY.

OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE CITYWIDE PRAYER AND WORSHIP FRIDAYS.

SO I KNOW YOU ALREADY HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE.

I'M TALKING TO YOU BOTH AS MAYOR AND PASTOR.

I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE A LOT ON YOUR PLATE WITH THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR OUR CITY.

WE HAVE THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER.

BUT IMAGINE IF WE PRAY 12 TIMES IN THE YEAR, WHICH OF COURSE IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN THAT.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ALIENATING ANYBODY.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IS IN.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE BILL BARTON IS THERE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY, BECAUSE THERE'S POWER IN THE WORD.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON ONE ACCORD AND JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, ELEVATING AND SPEAKING LIFE INTO THE CITY.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT TASK ON, BUT I JUST WANT TO SPEAK IT OUT.

MAYBE SINCE PASTOR KENDALL, GOD ALREADY HAS ALL THE CONNECTIONS WITH ALL THE CHURCHES, I CAN SEE IT BEING AN EASILY DONE ROLLING OUT INTO JANUARY.

YEAH. AND ACTUALLY WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE AUDIENCE IS A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH BREVARD MINISTERIAL ASSOCIATION WITH US.

WE'RE JUST TALKING, YOU KNOW, THINGS.

BUT DEFINITELY WE COULD DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT DIALOG WITH OTHER, OTHER CHURCHES.

AND I'M TALKING ABOUT MULTI-DENOMINATIONAL, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHAT THE EXTRAVAGANZA IS.

IT'S A COLLABORATION OF TEN CHURCHES AND HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES THAT BRING THAT FORTH, AND THE CITY GETS TO PARTNER WITH THAT.

SO, YES, I LOVE THAT IDEA.

WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH EASTWIND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH LAST MINUTE FOR, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE HELICOPTER DROPS FOR EASTER EGGS.

THEY CAME IN AND AND THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE TO DO AN EASTER EGG DROP.

THEY THEY DID IT THEMSELVES.

AND THEY WERE THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT WERE THERE.

SO I'M I'M RIGHT ALONG WITH THAT.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S IS THERE AN APPETITE FROM YOU TO TRY AND AND GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT GOING? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY AND ALRIGHT.

MR. WEINBERG, SO YOU'VE GOT THE CONSENSUS ON THAT AS WELL.

SO NOW, DEPUTY MAYOR, UNDER YOUR REPORTS.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT SEGUE AS FAR AS LIFTING THE SPIRIT OF A COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GREAT. WHAT WAS THAT? ARE YOU GOING TO PREACH NOW? COME ON.

SOMEWHAT. NO, I LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, THE PASTORS.

CERTAINLY OUR COMMUNITY, IF YOU IF YOU ALL ARE NOT AWARE OF IT, I'M PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT THAT IS DEEPLY, DEEPLY HURTING RIGHT NOW, THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY ALL THROUGHOUT THIS NATION.

I'M NOT TELLING ANYBODY ANYTHING THAT YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW.

THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, HAITI, THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY IN THE US MADE THE MADE NATIONAL NEWS, 67.1 MILLION PEOPLE HEARD LIES, STRAIGHT LIES, DISGRACEFUL COMMENTS THAT MADE ABOUT THIS, THIS GREAT COMMUNITY FROM OUR FORMER PRESIDENT, SENATOR JD VANCE STARTED IT COMPLETELY FABRICATED LIES ABOUT A COMMUNITY, A GREAT COMMUNITY THAT CONTRIBUTES SO MUCH TO THIS GREAT NATION.

I'M GOING TO BRING YOU BACK A LITTLE BIT OF TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.

I KNOW MAYOR IS VERY AWARE.

BACK IN 1779, HAITIAN FREED HAITIAN SLAVE FROM HAITI FOUGHT ALONGSIDE AMERICAN SOLDIER AGAINST THE BRITISH. THE SIEGE OF SAVANNAH, 750 BLACK FREE BLACK SLAVE FROM HAITI.

THE LOUISIANA PURCHASE WAS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE CONTRIBUTION CREATION OF HAITI TO THE REGION, GOT RID OF FRANCE.

THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE US.

SO I'M SAYING ALL THAT.

I JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES.

THE CONTRIBUTION HAITIAN AS A AS A PEOPLE, WHAT WE GIVE TO WHAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO THE US AND NOT JUST THE US, THE REST OF THE WORLD, SOUTH AMERICA, AFRICA, BECAUSE WE'RE THE VERY FIRST BLACK NATION THAT SAYS NO TO SLAVERY.

IN 1804 1804.

WE SET THE TONE WE GAVE.

WE SENT A MESSAGE TO THE REST OF THE WORLD.

WE SAID NO TO SLAVERY, UNFAIR TREATMENT OF HUMAN BEING.

BUT YET 2024 ALL FORMER PRESIDENT USED THAT STAGE LARGEST STAGE TO DEMISE TO

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DEGRADE DEHUMANIZE A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT GIVE SO MUCH TO THIS NATION THAT CONTRIBUTES SO MUCH TO THIS NATION.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.

BUT THIS IS WRONG.

I'M DENOUNCING IT TONIGHT.

I HOPE MY COUNCIL JOIN ME.

THIS IS WRONG.

WE HAVE TO CALL IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

THE HAITIAN PEOPLE DON'T DESERVE THAT.

THAT COMMUNITY WELCOMED THE HAITIANS, THE MIGRANTS, AND THEY ARE ALL LEGAL.

BY THE WAY, DESPITE WHAT'S BEEN SAID, THEY ALL THOSE IN THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY, THEY ARE LEGAL, LEGAL, HAITIAN IMMIGRANTS, THAT COMMUNITY WELCOMED THEM BECAUSE THEY CONTRIBUTE.

THEY HAD A SHORTAGE IN THEIR LABOR FORCE.

THAT COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTE TREMENDOUSLY TO THE ECONOMIC POWER OF OF WHAT SPRINGFIELD, OHIO IS TODAY. THEY WELCOME THEM AND THEY, THEY WENT FORWARD AND, AND AND YOU KNOW, DEBUNKED AND AND CALL OUT THE FORMER PRESIDENT AND J.D.

VANCE IN THEIR LIVES.

SO THIS I THINK AMERICA IS BETTER IN THAT WE ARE BETTER IN THAT AS A, AS A NATION TO ACCEPT THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR FROM ANYONE, NOT JUST FROM THE FORMER ANYONE.

THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THAT SINCE THAT THOSE COMMENTS, I CAN TELL YOU WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT ARE SCARED.

I MEAN, THEY ARE VERY SCARED AND NOT JUST IN IN SPRINGFIELD, OHIO, ALL OVER THE NATION.

THEY ARE SCARED.

30 BOMB THREATS SINCE SINCE THAT, SINCE THOSE COMMENTS.

I THINK THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THAT IN TELL YOU ABOUT THE HAITIAN COMMUNITY.

WHAT WHAT WHAT WE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE ARE.

I'M. I'M A PROUD ASIAN AMERICAN.

THIS COMMUNITY. THIS COUNTRY.

GIVE ME. JUST ME.

MAKE ME WHO I AM. WHILE.

HAITI. I GREW UP IN HAITI.

I CAME HERE AT THE AGE OF 19 YEARS OLD.

THE GREAT AMERICAN DREAM IS STILL ALIVE.

I STILL BELIEVE IN IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE COME FOR.

WE COME AND CONTRIBUTE TREMENDOUSLY TO MAKE AMERICA WHAT IT IS TODAY.

WE BELIEVE IN FAITH.

WE HAVE A STRONG, STRONG FAITH COMMUNITY.

I CAN TELL YOU, MAYOR, THEY VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY FOR YOU.

WE BELIEVE IN EDUCATION.

WE BELIEVE IN HARD WORK.

WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE IN FAMILY.

SO THIS THIS DISGRACEFUL COMMENTS FROM OUR FORMER PRESIDENT.

I'M ASKING MY COUNCIL TO OPENLY DENY, I MEAN, CALL IT OUT FOR WHAT IT IS.

I JUST WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE.

AND I COULDN'T STAY SILENT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR CONTINUES WHEN GOOD PEOPLE AND GOOD PEOPLE.

GOOD CHRISTIAN PEOPLE.

MY COLLEAGUES, ONCE WE STAY SILENT, WE ENCOURAGE THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR TO CONTINUE.

AMERICA IS MUCH BETTER THAN THAT.

THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I'LL JUMP IN.

I'M. I DIDN'T WATCH THE DEBATE, SO I HAD TO DO A QUICK GOOGLE TO SEE WHAT YOU WERE, WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO, SIR.

BUT THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

WHAT? WE NEED TO CALL ANY PRESIDENT OUT, WHETHER IT'S BIDEN FOR WHAT HE'S DOING AND HEIGHTENED.

AND WHOEVER IT IS.

SO THAT.

THAT'S NOT RIGHT, SIR. BECAUSE I HAVE FRIENDS.

I CONSIDER ALL OF YOU ON HERE FRIENDS.

SO I'VE HAD HAITIAN FOOD.

I AIN'T TASTE NO CAT, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M MAKING LIGHT OF THE SITUATION, BUT THE CULTURE IS BEAUTIFUL.

THE FOOD IS DELICIOUS.

SO THAT'S. THAT'S NOT RIGHT, SIR.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING UP ON WHAT YOU FELT.

SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT, BUT WE'RE THE VOICE, SO YOU'RE BEING A VOICE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN WEINBERGER.

YEAH. I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR FOR ANYONE TO CASTIGATE AN ENTIRE ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, NATIONALITY, THAT TYPE OF THING.

IT'S JUST IT'S JUST FLAT OUT WRONG.

YOU KNOW, AND THE MAYOR OF SPRINGFIELD SPOKE OUT AGAINST IT.

EVEN THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR OF OHIO SPOKE OUT AGAINST IT.

AND AND IT JUST THAT TYPE OF THING JUST NEEDS MORE PEOPLE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT.

SO I'M ENTIRELY IN AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO CHANGE THE TUNE TO THE GROUNDBREAKING OF FIRE STATION NUMBER SEVEN.

AND COMMEND THOSE THAT THAT PROVIDED THAT.

WHEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE OUR CITY'S BEEN AND WHERE OUR CITY'S GOING, IT'S CRITICAL TO KNOW THAT A LIFE

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IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.

AND IF WE DON'T VALUE LIFE AS A SOCIETY, WE'RE CONDEMNED.

AND FOR THAT GROUNDBREAKING THAT'S BEEN YEARS OF US WAITING.

WE'VE TRIED TO GET FUNDING, REMEMBER GRANT FUNDING APPLICATIONS THAT WERE DENIED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

AND AND WE'VE COME THROUGH AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT BRICK AND MORTAR TO BE COMPLETED.

AND THEN MOREOVER, THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING.

WE'RE GOING TO LITERALLY CONTINUE TO INCREASE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THAT GENTLEMAN IS A FEATHER IN ANY CAP, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE 36 YEARS, AND I'VE SEEN HOW OUR PUBLIC SAFETY INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN TREATED. AND I AM SO HONORED AND AND PRIDEFUL.

I'M PALM BAY PROUD THAT WE'RE MOVING IN A DIRECTION THAT WE ARE RESTORING PUBLIC SAFETY IN A CULTURE, AND MOREOVER, WE'RE BACKING THEM UP WITH OUR ACTIONS.

SO NOT ONLY ARE WE BUILDING NEW FIRE STATIONS, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE POLICE SUBSTATIONS.

THERE'S A CULTURE WITHIN OUR FIRST RESPONDERS THAT THEY'RE PROUD TO BE PALM BAY FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND I'LL SAY ANOTHER THING, THE FOLKS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY ARE AWARE OF THE CULTURE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED, DEVELOPED RIGHT HERE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIREFIGHTERS.

I KNOW BECAUSE I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITHIN THE COUNTY, SO I'M HEARING IT ON A CONTINUAL BASIS.

OUR SEPTEMBER 11TH EVENT, WE WILL NEVER FORGET.

AND I LOVE WHAT PARKS DID FOR US.

THE FIREFIGHTERS PRESENTED THAT FLAG AND EVEN SO, IT WAS IT GETS AN EMOTIONAL TIME FOR ME BECAUSE WE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN MY BROTHER WAS THE ENTIRE DAY.

WE KNEW THAT AS A CAMERAMAN FOR TELEMUNDO, HE WAS DOWN CHAMBERS STREET.

THAT'S HIS DISTRICT.

THAT'S WHERE HE REPORTED TO EVERY MORNING.

AND HE LITERALLY WALKED ACROSS THE GEORGE WASHINGTON BRIDGE TO GET HOME.

AND IT TOOK HOURS.

AND, OF COURSE, YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE THERE WAS NO, NO PHONE SERVICES DURING THAT TIME.

IT WAS OVER FLOODED. BUT THANK GOD HE'S DOING WELL.

HE HAS GONE THROUGH SOME MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES BECAUSE OF THAT.

WHAT HE WITNESSED FIRSTHAND AND, AND GIVING THANKS TO GOD THAT HE'S STILL AMONG US TODAY.

I WANTED TO ALSO SHARE RACHEL'S PROMISE THIS PAST WEEK WE'VE HAD SO MANY HOAX WHEN IT COMES TO ATTACKS IN OUR SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAST TIME DEPUTY MAYOR BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE THAT HAPPENED IN GEORGIA.

BUT I'M. I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

WE HAD RACHEL'S PROMISE COME HERE YEARS AGO, AND IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE.

NOW, I KNOW WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE THEY SHOULD BE BRINGING IT TO ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

BUT, GENTLEMEN, OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS THE CHILDREN IN PALM BAY, OUR YOUTH IN PALM BAY.

I AM I AM LOOKING FOR THAT TYPE OF SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS GROUP TO FIND OUT WHAT THE COST IS SO THAT WE CAN BRING THEM TO BAYSIDE HIGH, HERITAGE HIGH SCHOOL AND PALM BAY HIGH.

THOSE THREE HIGH SCHOOLS SERVE OUR CHILDREN, OUR YOUTH, AND THOSE ARE THE LIVES WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD THAT WE MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION AS SOON AS WE CAN.

ABSOLUTELY. MADAM SHERMAN.

I REALLY MY HEART IS IS BENT TOWARDS TRYING TO GET RACHEL'S PROMISE IN FRONT OF OUR CHILDREN.

SO WHATEVER DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD WITH PERHAPS OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, KATIE CAMPBELL TO TO START THAT DISCUSSIONS, AT LEAST START WITH BAYSIDE AND HERITAGE AND THEN PALM BAY HIGH.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND THEN I'LL, I'LL END WITH THIS, I THINK ON SEPTEMBER 7TH.

I HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO BE AT THE ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, AND I WAS AT THE

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TARMAC TO WELCOME HOME STAFF SERGEANT TRISTAN WRIGHT.

I HAD THE HONOR TO SIT AND STAND NEXT TO YOU.

MET THEM TWO WEEKS AGO.

THE WRIGHT FAMILY.

RICKY WRIGHT AND NOVELLA WRIGHT RECEIVE THEIR CHILD OFF THAT PLANE.

DRAPED WITH THE FLAG OF THIS GREAT NATION.

AND I MUST ADMIT TO YOU, IT WAS AN OVERWHELMING SENSE OF PRIDE AND YET SORROW AT THE SAME TIME.

THE ENTIRE AIRPORT WAS STANDING AT ATTENTION, AND THEY JUST VIEW THE TRANSFERENCE OF HIS REMAINS ONTO THE HEARSE.

AND THAT WAS A VERY EMOTIONAL TIME.

I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE IT WAS DIFFICULT TO GET LAW ENFORCEMENT TO COME AND PROVIDE THE ESCORT FOR THAT FALLEN SOLDIER.

FALLEN AIRMAN.

AND I THE REASON, PERHAPS, WAS THERE WAS A TIME THAT THE MELBOURNE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT WOULD RECEIVE OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS. SO WE WERE ABLE AND I GOT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION, TO OUR CHIEF OF POLICE FOR LEADING THE WAY.

PALM BAY BOUGHT A PALM BAY BACK HOME, THEN THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL.

THEY PROVIDED TWO ADDITIONAL VEHICLES.

AND THEN ONCE WE GOT HERE MELBOURNE AND WEST MELBOURNE HELPED ALONG THE WAY.

BUT I GOTTA COMMEND OUR CITY MANAGER, CHIEF OF POLICE, BECAUSE WE AS A COMMUNITY RALLIED AROUND A PALM BAY THAT GAVE HIS LIFE FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY MY REPORTS, AND I'LL END WITH THAT, MADAM CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST HAVE ONE REQUEST, AND IT'S A REQUEST FOR CONSENSUS FOR A LETTER TO ACTUALLY BE BE SIGNED BY YOU, MAYOR.

[ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:]

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY REGARDING FLOOD INSURANCE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO THERE'S A WHAT'S CALLED A COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.

YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD CRS, AND CRS IS A PROGRAM THAT COMMUNITIES CHOOSE TO BE A PART OF.

IT'S VOLUNTARY.

BUT WHEN YOU JOIN IT, IT'S PART OF THE POINT OF IT IS YOU CREATE, YOU ACCOMPLISH DIFFERENT TASKS, AND THOSE TASKS CAN RESULT IF YOUR COMMUNITY DOES THESE THINGS IN REDUCTIONS IN INSURANCE, PROPERTY INSURANCE, FLOOD INSURANCE COSTS FOR FOR YOUR MEMBERS OF YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO THE LETTER ACTUALLY IS AN ATTEMPT.

IF THIS LETTER IS SENT OUT, IT IS AN ATTEMPT BY US TO MOVE FROM WHERE WE'RE AT AS A CLASS.

710 IS KIND OF THE LOWEST.

AND SO IT GOES 1 TO 10 WHERE A TEN IS NO DISCOUNT AND ONE IS THE MAXIMUM DISCOUNT YOU COULD HAVE.

SO WE'RE CLASS SEVEN RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE UP TO A CLASS SIX, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE THOSE IN SPECIAL HAZARD FLOOD AREAS WITH AN ADDITIONAL 5% A REDUCTION IN THEIR FLOOD INSURANCE PREMIUMS. AND SO WE HAVE TO BASICALLY SEND A IT SOUNDS SIMPLE, BUT WE HAVE TO SEND A LETTER TO 615.

I THINK IT IS HOMES THAT ARE IN THESE SPECIAL HAZARD FLOOD AREAS AND LET THEM KNOW THERE'S RESOURCES IF THEY HAVE REPETITIVE FLOODS, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE ARE SOME CONTACTS YOU CAN REACH OUT TO IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH FLOODING THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO SIMPLY ASKING FOR CONSENSUS.

THE LETTER IS ALREADY DRAFTED, BUT TO HAVE THAT LETTER COME FROM THE MAYOR? YEAH. WE'RE GOOD. THUMBS UP.

THAT'S ALL FOR ME. THAT'S IT.

YES. THANK YOU.

MADAM SMITH.

NOTHING FURTHER. PUBLIC COMMENTS.

DEPUTY MAYOR. MR.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

TOM HREBNICKI.

ALL RIGHT. I RETIRED FROM OUR SWAT TEAM IN 2021 AFTER 11 YEARS.

I FEEL THE NEED TO GIVE A COUNTER PERSPECTIVE TO THOSE THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED BY OTHERS.

THIS IS A PERSPECTIVE I GAINED FROM SEEING THE SWAT TEAM FROM THE OUTSIDE FOR THE FIRST NINE YEARS OF MY CAREER.

THEN ON BEING ON THE SWAT TEAM AND ROLES OF UTILITY MEMBERS SNIPER TEAM LEADER AND SWAT COMMANDER.

I WAS TRAINED BY NUMEROUS SQUAD COMMANDERS, TEAM LEADERS, AND PAST AND PRESENT TEAM MEMBERS.

THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE LEARNED HAD PASSED DOWN FROM PAST MEMBERS AND CONTINUE OUR MISSION TO STRIVE TO BE BETTER.

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WE WERE TAUGHT TO BE LEADERS REGARDLESS OF OUR RANK, TAKE LEAD ROLES WHEREVER WE WERE IN THE AGENCY, AND TO HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE.

MANY TIMES WHEN WE EITHER NEEDED AN ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT OR JUST NOT CARRYING OURSELVES, THAT REPRESENTS THE TEAM AND THE AGENCY IN A POSITIVE LIGHT.

IT WAS NOT OUR CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT DID IT.

IT WAS OUR PEERS AND LEADERSHIP ON THE SWAT TEAM.

HIS BEST ILLUSTRATED LIKE WHEN I WAS A CHILD, YOU WOULD HEAR, WAIT TILL YOUR DAD COMES HOME.

YOU'D RATHER GET TO SIT DOWN FROM YOUR SUPERVISOR VERSUS THEM GOING TO YOUR FELLOW TEAM MEMBERS FOR CORRECTIVE ACTION.

THERE ARE MORE EYES ON YOU AS A SWAT MEMBER THAN IF YOU WERE NOT, THUS MAKING ACTUALLY HARDER AT TIMES THAN IF YOU DID NOT VOLUNTEER FOR THAT POSITION.

SO YES, IN THAT RESPECT, WE DO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN LIKE A FAMILY.

BUT THE ACTUAL CONTEXT THAT IS MEANT IS BY HOLDING YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT GOING TO SUGARCOAT IT.

NOT ONLY DOES THAT BENEFIT THE PERSON AND THE TEAM, BUT ULTIMATELY THE AGENCY, THE CITY, AND THE PUBLIC.

AGAIN, I FEEL THE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS NOT MISUNDERSTOOD, THAT IF A MEMBER DID VIOLATE POLICY OR SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE CHAIN IN A FORM OF DISCIPLINE, THAT STILL HAPPENED, SWAT MEMBERS JUST HAD THE BENEFIT OF DEALING WITH THE CONSEQUENCES ON TWO FRONTS THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE AND THE SWAT SIDE.

IT SOMETIMES COULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT VOLUNTARILY TAKE ON SECONDARY DUTIES ON TOP OF THEIR PRIMARY ASSIGNMENT DURING THEIR CAREER, NOT ONLY SWAT, BUT TEAMS LIKE CAA, THE DIVE TEAM, HONOR GUARD, PEER SUPPORT, CRITICAL INCIDENT STRESS MANAGEMENT TEAM TO REALIZE THE EXTRA RESPONSIBILITY THEY TAKE ON DESPITE NOT BEING INCENTIVIZED THROUGH MONETARY MEANS, BUT SERVE THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMUNITY.

THOSE ATTRIBUTES SHOULD PLAY A PART WHEN DECIDING SELECTIONS FOR VARIOUS ASSIGNMENTS AND PROMOTIONS.

OVER THE LAST SEVEN POLICE CHIEFS, FOUR OF THE SEVEN WERE SWAT MEMBERS.

TWO HAVE ALSO GONE ON TO TAKE COMMAND LEVEL POSITIONS TO INCLUDE CHIEF AT OTHER AGENCIES.

DURHAM FIRE DEPARTMENT.

OUT OF THE 13 SWAT MEDICS, 11 HAVE BEEN PROMOTED OR APPOINTED TO A HIGHER RANK MULTIPLE TIMES UNDER MULTIPLE ADMINISTRATIONS.

I WANT TO ALSO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THAT HAVING THE HONOR TO SERVE ON SWAT OR ANY OF OUR VALUED SPECIALTY UNITS DOES NOT GIVE YOU SPECIAL TREATMENT WHEN IN LINE FOR PROMOTIONS, BUT IT DOES ALLOW YOU TO HONE YOUR LEADERSHIP SKILLS THAT ARE LOOKED FOR NOT ONLY.

I'M SORRY THAT ARE LOOKED FOR NOT ONLY FOR UNIT SELECTIONS, BUT SUPERVISORY SELECTIONS.

ARE SO CLOSE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, NICHOLAS FRANCE.

HELLO AGAIN. REAL QUICK.

I'VE PROBABLY SAID IN MY HEAD AND READDRESSED DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AFTER HEARING A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT SPEAKING FROM YOU, MAYOR.

FROM YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT IS A FAMILY, AND IT'S NOT A FAMILY THAT WILL HIDE THE BAD STUFF.

IT WILL HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AS I EXPECT IT SHOULD.

AND I WOULD HOLD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE.

AND I HELD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE FOR A LONG TIME FOR THINGS THAT I DIDN'T NEED TO.

SPECIFICALLY, THAT WAS JUST I WAS OVER DOING IN MY HEAD.

RIGHT. BUT I ALSO WANT TO GIVE MY RESPECTS TO THE HOFFNER'S, ROBERT AND SALLY, THE CAMPUSES AS WELL, BECAUSE IN ALL HONESTY, I'VE FORGIVEN BRANDON FOR WHAT HE'S DONE TO ME.

I CANNOT FORGIVE HIM FOR WHAT HE'S DONE TO OTHERS BECAUSE THAT'S BETWEEN THEM AND HIM.

BUT I WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY IN THE NAME OF WILLIAM.

BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, MAYOR, THAT THAT YOUNG MAN, STAFF SERGEANT, WHO GAVE HIS LIFE, I OBSERVED WILLIAM RUNNING TOWARDS A GUNMAN WHO JUST SHOT TWO COPS.

AND I DON'T WANT TO DIVE INTO THIS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S THE INVESTIGATION AND EVERYTHING, BUT I SAW IT, AND I FELT HELPLESS BECAUSE I WAS SHOT IN THE LEG.

I COULDN'T RUN AFTER HIM.

I COULDN'T I COULD JUST SHOUT AND TELL HIM TO STOP.

AND ALL THE CHAOS AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS GOING ON.

SO THAT'S HARD.

IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH.

AND THAT'S, I THINK, WHERE A LOT OF MY STUFF IS COMING FROM.

HOW I EVEN HAVE A MEMORIAL BAND FOR THAT MAN.

SO I HAVE A FLAG THAT I PERSONALLY BOUGHT IN IN HONOR OF HIM THAT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE TO THE FAMILY AT SOME POINT.

AND I HAVE TWO MORE OF THESE AS WELL.

SO TO TO HONOR THAT MAN FOR WHAT HE DID, THAT FAMILY LOST TWO PEOPLE THAT DAY.

NOT JUST ONE, BUT TWO.

SO I FEEL FOR THEM.

IT'S TOUGH.

THE FAMILY ALMOST.

THE PALM BAY FAMILY ALMOST LOST TWO OF THEIR OWN.

RIGHT. IT'S TRAGIC.

THE HOFFNER'S LOST TWO OF THEIRS.

IT'S ALL SENSELESS AND TRAGIC.

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AND I DON'T WANT AN INCIDENT TO JUST BE REMEMBERED FOR THE BAD.

I WANT TO TURN IT INTO WHAT IT IS.

IT WAS A REALLY BAD SITUATION, BUT IT WAS THE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

BUT THIS POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN ME THE RESOURCES I NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS CITY THE BEST I CAN AND CONTINUE THE CAREER THAT I'VE WANTED TO DO SINCE I WAS 19 YEARS OLD.

NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD BE THIS CITY, BUT GOD, I WILL DO ANYTHING FOR THIS CITY NOW.

DIE FOR EVERY SINGLE MAN AND WOMAN SITTING OVER THERE.

EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT SITS IN AN OFFICE.

EVERYBODY UP THERE.

I WILL GIVE MY LIFE FOR THIS CITY.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IN ALL HONESTY, THAT'S WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR.

AND THAT WAS MY CALLING IN LIFE.

THANKS, SPEAKER. MR. FISCHER. SO I HAD A KIND OF SWITCH DIRECTIONS A COUPLE OF TIMES TONIGHT, BUT AFTER LISTENING TO COMMANDER OF NIKKI SPEAK, I'M GOING TO GO ANOTHER ONE.

THANK YOU.

FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OFFICERS THAT SHOWED UP TODAY.

YOU KNOW, I STOOD BESIDE CHIEF VIGIL FOR TWO YEARS TO.

I WAS LOYAL TO HIM AS WELL, TO A FAULT, SO I DO I DO COMMEND THOSE OFFICERS.

AND IT'S IT'S UNFORTUNATE TONIGHT, LISTENING TO MISS SHERMAN SPEAK, THAT WHEN YOU STAND UP TO SPEAK AGAINST THE WRONGDOINGS.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT I WAS UNDER ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION AND PENDING DISCIPLINE, AND I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATIONS SINCE APRIL 17TH, WHEN I ASKED TO SPEAK TO MISS SHERMAN IN REFERENCE TO THE WAY THE CHIEF TREATED ME AND MY OFFICE, SAYING, YOU'RE NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD, YOU CAN'T DO THIS JOB ANYMORE.

I FELT THAT THAT WAS UNPROFESSIONAL.

AND WHEN I ASKED TO MEET WITH THE CITY MANAGER, I WAS DENIED THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO, FURTHERMORE, LAST, LAST WEEK, I SPOKE AT THIS PODIUM, AND I EXPRESSED FRUSTRATIONS WITH THE WAY THAT I WAS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S BEEN ON FMLA.

CHIEF MARIO ANGELO HAS TREATED OFFICERS WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT AND COURTESY FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ON FMLA.

I PULLED A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST FROM TWO OFFICERS.

ONE WAS GIVEN EIGHT MEDICAL LEAVE EXTENSIONS AND WAS OUT FOR 17 MONTHS.

ANOTHER ONE WAS GIVEN SEVEN MEDICAL LEAVE EXTENSIONS AND WAS OUT FOR 12 MONTHS.

I WAS GIVEN ONE, I WAS GIVEN ONE EXTENSION AND THEN I WAS RELEASED.

NOW, PROBABLY FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND TODAY, IT'S BECAUSE I DID STAND UP.

SO WHAT WE'RE TEACHING OUR OFFICERS BEHIND US IS THAT INTEGRITY.

YOU BETTER HOLD IT TO YOURSELF.

YOU BETTER SUFFER IN SILENCE, WHICH IS A SHAME.

AND, YOU KNOW, I COMMEND FOR NICK FOR COMING UP HERE AND TELLING THE STORY.

BUT WHEN I SUFFERED IN SILENCE, I HAD NO ISSUES.

IT WAS WHEN I WENT TO CHIEF AJELLO AND EXPRESSED MY CONCERNS ABOUT MY MENTAL WELLNESS, THAT I WAS THEN TOLD THAT I'M NOT RIGHT IN THE HEAD, AND I COULDN'T BE THE DEPUTY CHIEF ANY LONGER.

THERE WAS NO INTENTIONS OF BRINGING ME BACK.

THERE WAS A LETTER ON JUNE 14TH THAT SAID THAT THE CITY PUT OUT TO A VENDOR, SAYING THAT DEPUTY CHIEF FISHER IS NO LONGER WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

HIS REPLACEMENT WILL MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

THAT REPLACEMENT WAS NOW DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS SPEIRS BACK THERE.

SO THURSDAY, WHEN I STOOD UP HERE, EXPRESSED MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, SWAT SERGEANT SHANE MERTENS SENT ME A TEXT MESSAGE THAT SAID, F YOU.

HE'S A SWAT MEMBER.

COMMANDER NICKI SAYS HE'LL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

HE THEN THE NEXT DAY PUT THE SOCIAL MEDIA POST DEGRADING MY WIFE.

UNACCEPTABLE. BUT HE'LL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FOR TWO WEEKS.

I FINALLY GOT WITH THE SERGEANT AND I FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS VERBALLY TOLD DON'T DO IT AGAIN.

HE'S HAD MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS FROM CITIZENS FOR UNPROFESSIONALISM TO INCLUDE BEING IN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE JUST PRIOR TO THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

STEVE BLAND.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO FOR FOR YEARS I HAD THE HONOR TO BE TOLD.

THANK YOU. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO.

TO HEAR CITIZENS TELL ME.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE I COULD DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND THAT ALWAYS.

THAT ALWAYS FELT SPECIAL TO ME IN MY HEART.

BUT NOW, AS I'M RETIRED, I GET TO SAY THAT TO YOU GUYS AFTER THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

OF WATCHING YOU GUYS DO TWO FULL COUNCIL MEETINGS.

AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, I CAN TELL YOU.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

AND I CAN'T IMAGINE DOING WHAT YOU DO, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS WORKING.

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AT LEAST I HAD A CHANCE TO SOMETIMES EITHER RESPOND TO PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO HOLD BACK.

OR NOT. AND YOU GUYS SIT UP HERE AND GET, YOU KNOW, THROWN COMMENTS AFTER COMMENTS AFTER COMMENTS AND CAN'T ALWAYS.

CAN'T ALWAYS RESPOND BACK, CAN'T ALWAYS SAY SOMETHING.

SO I APPRECIATE IT.

AND IT'S HARD WORK. AND I KNOW THE TIME THAT YOU GUYS SPEND NOT JUST DURING COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHICH IS 10:00 TONIGHT, BUT IN THE MORNINGS WHEN YOU GO TO SPECIAL EVENTS, IN THE AFTERNOONS WHEN YOU TAKE WHEN YOU TAKE PHONE CALLS.

SO I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS INDIVIDUALLY FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

AND OBVIOUSLY VOLUNTEERING AND STEPPING UP EVEN WHEN EVEN WHEN THE CHANCE WAS, WAS AVAILABLE.

BUT THAT JOB IS HARD BECAUSE YOU ALSO HAVE TO LISTEN TO GRIEVANCES AND TAKE JUDGMENTS ON CITIZENS AND WEIGH THOSE ON WHAT THEIR WORTH AND THEIR CREDIBILITY.

AND THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DO, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU'RE ONLY HEARING ONE SIDE OF THE STORY.

AND I WANT TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEBODY'S GRIEVANCES AND IT'S THE VENOM IN THEIR GRIEVANCES, YOU HAVE TO CALL IN JUDGMENT OF WHAT IS WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE GOAL WHEN SOMEBODY SPEAKS WITH SUCH VENOM, EVERYBODY HAS PROBLEMS, EVERYBODY HAS CHALLENGES.

AND YOU TRY TO LISTEN TO THAT, TO THAT, THAT CAUSE.

BUT WHEN A PERSON SPEAKS WITH SUCH VENOM IN A GRIEVANCE, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHERE IS IT COMING FROM AND WHAT ELSE IS THERE BEHIND IT.

RIGHT. EVERY BROTHER AND SISTER THAT I WORKED WITH, I WILL ALWAYS HAVE THEIR BACK.

I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT THEM.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH CRISIS AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE REACHING OUT TO YOU, NOT EVERYBODY IS IS ACCEPTING.

NOT EVERYBODY IS OPEN AND IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS THING DOES.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S DONE OVER THE YEARS.

YOU HAVE TO TRY TO CONTINUE TO REACH PEOPLE.

YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO TRY AND NEVER GIVE UP ON ON THEIR ON THEIR GOALS TO GET BETTER.

AND IT'S HARD.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP TRYING.

I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP ON ON OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

BUT YOU DO GET TO QUESTION MOTIVATION.

YOU DO GET TO QUESTION CHARACTER WHEN YOU HEAR VENOM FROM CERTAIN PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, MR. MARK MILLER, PASTOR.

ALL RIGHT. MARK MILLER, 898 NELSON AVENUE, 24 YEARS HERE IN PALM BAY.

I JUST WANTED TO COME UP REALLY TO TO SAY THANKS ALSO TO KENNY JOHNSON FOR SHARING YOUR HEART THERE.

THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF TIMES IN THIS NATION'S HISTORY, WE'VE COME TO AN IMPASSE AND WE FEEL THIS KIND OF CHAOS.

THE GOVERNMENT HAS CALLED FOR A TIME OF PRAYER AND FASTING AND AND IF THERE'S ANY SORT OF SPIRITUAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, I JUST WANT TO AS A PASTOR OF VICTORY IN CHRIST JESUS MINISTRIES, LOCATED RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND HERE, ACTUALLY, RIGHT ON JUPITER, NEXT TO GLORY BOUND CHURCH OF GOD.

I CERTAINLY WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF IT.

PASTOR KENNY DELGADO IS A MENTOR OF MINE, AND PASTOR DAVE MEYERS ACTUALLY BAPTIZED ME ABOUT 24 YEARS AGO, SO CERTAINLY WELL CONNECTED HERE.

IT'S AMAZING.

I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I ALSO WANT TO SAY GIVE A BIG THANKS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ALSO TO THE PALM BAY POLICE.

WE HAVE AN A PRAYER WALK ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 19TH, DEPARTING VICTORY IN CHRIST JESUS MINISTRIES AT 2865 JUPITER BOULEVARD, RIGHT BEHIND HERE.

DEPARTING AT TEN. AND WE'RE GOING TO JUST KIND OF HAVE A PRAYER WALK AS WE COME DOWN THE SIDEWALK.

WE'RE GOING TO STOP AT THE LIBRARY, AND HERE WE'RE GOING TO PRAY THE LIBRARY.

CERTAINLY, WE NEED TO PRAY FOR THESE BOOKS AND FOR ALL THIS INDOCTRINATION OF OUR KIDS.

WE'RE GOING TO STOP HERE AND PRAY FOR THIS AWESOME LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAVE IN THIS AWESOME CITY.

AND THEN AS WE COME UP, ELDER RON, WE'LL STOP AND WE'LL PRAY OVER THE SCHOOLS AS WELL AND THEN END UP BACK AT THE AT THE CHURCH FOR TIME OF WORSHIP AND IN PRAYER AND, AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU, ALL OF YOU, AND INVITE EVERYONE FROM THIS CITY TO COME ON OUT AND TAKE PART OF THAT.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR HEART.

COUNT ME IN.

IN ADDITION, YOU KNOW, TO PASTORING AND FOUNDING THIS CHURCH TEN YEARS AGO.

I SPENT THE LAST 24 OR 25 YEARS IN BREVARD COUNTY AS A SENIOR AEROSPACE LEADER AND EXECUTIVE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY BUSINESS ADVISORY COUNCILS, IT JUST DRIVES ME ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.

THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT I HAVE SENT OUT OF THIS STATE TO OTHER BUSINESSES.

WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT RIGHT HERE? YOU KNOW, I BUILT THE TEAM AT EMBRAER BLUE ORIGIN AND OTHERS.

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WHY AREN'T WE BRINGING THAT BUSINESS HERE TO PALM BAY? SO GOD CALLED ME TO RETIRE EARLY FROM THE SECULAR WORLD IN JULY.

PASTOR. FULL TIME TO SERVE FULL TIME.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M I WANT TO PUT THAT EXPERIENCE AND WISDOM TO USE FOR THIS CITY.

SO GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

MRS. STICE, WOULD YOU SAY YES? YES, YES. GOOD EVENING.

ROBERT STICE 1796, WINBURN DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

SIR, I WANT TO MENTION WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAID ABOUT THE HAITIANS.

BUT I WILL ASK AS A REGISTERED INDEPENDENT ANYBODY HERE WHO HASN'T SAID MULTIPLE STUPID THINGS OVER THEIR LIFE, RAISE YOUR HANDS.

IT'S NOT HAPPENING. WE ALL DO.

I MEAN, I HAVE THE KAMALA HARRIS ACCUSING TRUMP OF BEING THE SECOND COMING OF HITLER.

I DON'T SEE ANY OUTRAGE ON THAT.

I'M SEEING THE STATE OF ISRAEL IN IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS, AND ACROSS THE REST OF THIS NATION ARE FEARFUL OF THEIR LIVES JUST WALKING ON CAMPUS SHOUTING, EXTERMINATE THE JEWS! HAVE WE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH DEALING WITH THIS? I'VE HEARD RECENTLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, YOU KNOW, THE THE BIG THREE MEDIA, ABC, NBC AND CBS, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, TRUMP IS BASICALLY CAUSING PEOPLE TO TARGET HIM BY HIS BEHAVIOR.

NOW, HOW FREAKING INSANE IS THAT? I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT THE KENNEDY ADMINISTRATION SENT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO THE DEEP SOUTH SO THAT GOVERNORS AND MAYORS COULD NOT REFUSE AFRICAN AMERICANS TO ATTEND WHITE COLLEGES.

WHERE HAVE WE COME? THIS IS NOT ABOUT HUNTING.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT TRUMP.

I'VE NEVER. WELL IT IS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A MAN MORE ATTACKED IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

AND HE'S STILL STANDING TALL.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO ON AND ON, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MY FATHER'S DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

BUT THIS ISN'T IT.

I'M WATCHING THEM GO BALLISTIC ON THE FACT THAT THE TEAMSTERS WOULDN'T SUPPORT THEM THIS TIME AROUND.

THERE'S ENOUGH HATRED AND AND NOT EVEN ANIMOSITY.

JUST PURE, UNMITIGATED HATRED THAT THIS GUY IS GOING TO RUIN DEMOCRACY.

YET I'M SEEING WHAT USED TO BE MY DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECOME SOCIALIST.

OKAY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WHAT YOU SAID, SIR, BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE STATE OF ISRAEL IS SURROUNDED BY ENEMIES.

OKAY. AND NOW THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY FELLOW STUDENTS WHO ARE THEIR ENEMIES AS WELL.

AND I DON'T SEE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ACTING ON THEIR BEHALF.

THANK YOU. BUTCH AND THEN MASTER CHIEF STEPPED OUT OF RANK. BUTCH.

I RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE.

I GOT THREE LITTLE THINGS.

REALLY? PRIOR, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OPIOID CRISIS AND THE SETTLEMENT MONEY.

DID WE EVER GET OURS? AND IF SO, HOW MUCH DID WE GET? THE OTHER THING IS THAT.

EXCUSE ME. THE PO DE POW MIA RECOGNITION DAY.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT TEARS MY HEART APART.

CHRISTMAS EVE 1971, I LAUNCHED TWO CAPTAINS OUT ON A MISSION DURING A CEASE FIRE.

THEY DID NOT COME HOME.

THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN FOUND.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OPERATING IN LAOS.

THEY JUST. THEY JUST NEVER COME HOME.

SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS MAKING A PROCLAMATION FOR THAT.

I REALLY DO. THE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED, GOLF CARTS ON THE WHERE YOU'RE CHANGING THE.

WHAT ABOUT ELECTRIC BIKES AND SCOOTERS? I MEAN, THEY'RE THEY'RE ON THE ROAD.

THEY'RE ON THE SIDEWALKS.

ARE WE GOING TO INCLUDE THAT SOMEHOW IN THAT ORDINANCE THAT THERE'S SOME WAY THEY CAN BE? I DON'T KNOW, SOME LAW THAT CAN SAY, DON'T RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK, BUT THEN YOU PUT THEM ON THE STREET.

THEY DON'T OBEY THE STOP SIGNS.

THEY DON'T STOP AT STOPLIGHTS.

THEY JUST SHOOT RIGHT THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS.

SO AND I DO THANK YOU GUYS FOR WHAT YOU DO.

SO HAVE A GREAT DAY.

EVENING ALL THAT. THANK YOU.

SO SO BUTCH.

WE'LL START OFF WITH THE THE GOLF CARTS.

AND THAT ADDITION MADAM BROWN BECAUSE HAS THAT THAT ORDINANCE ALREADY EXISTED.

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BUT CARRY ON. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO QUITE AS LONG AS WELL.

IT WAS ALREADY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

IT WAS ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

PREVIOUSLY. WE WERE JUST MOVING IT OUT OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND INTO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

NO, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ELECTRIC BIKES.

NO IT DOES. IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE, WE COULD LOOK AT IT IN PHASE TWO.

PHASE TWO.

MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'VE GOT FIVE ITEMS TO ADDRESS.

ONE. AFTER YOUR MAJOR PRESENTATION ON PUBLIC SPEAKING, YOU SAID YOU COULD ONLY SPEAK ONE TIME.

YET WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TWICE.

I WAS JUST SEEKING CLARIFICATION.

AM I ONLY GOING TO BE LIMITED TO THE FIRST OR THE LAST PRESENTATION? ITEM NUMBER TWO.

RIGHT. FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND THIS IS TERRIBLE.

AFTER WHAT THE IDF WAS ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, I WOULD ALWAYS BE LEERY.

I DON'T EVEN OWN A CELL PHONE.

SO JUST KEEP JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, PEOPLE.

ITEM NUMBER THREE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING.

RIGHT? THAT IS TO WORK ON A MENTAL PROBLEM.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSE WAS.

THERE COULD BE FAULTS IN IT I AGREE.

BUT WITH THAT SIMPLE THING THAT'S WORKING WITH A WITH A MENTAL ILLNESS.

AND IN SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER ILLEGAL ALIENS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING IS PART OF A MENTAL ILLNESS PROBLEM ALSO.

SO WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH MENTAL ILLNESS, SINCE WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH MENTAL ILLNESS FOR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PUSH IT AS AS WE SEE IT.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR WAS BUILDING E.

BUILDING E, MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.

I CAN I MEAN, LIKE, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'D WALK IN ONE DAY AND THE WALLS WERE UP.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE COMPLETION DATE ON THAT, BUT THAT IS A GREAT PROGRESS ON BUILDING E.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE LIES ABOUT HAITIANS.

OKAY, MAYBE NOT THE BEST APPROACH, BUT WHEN YOU CALL OUT THE MY FAVORITE PERSON, DONALD TRUMP, I'M GOING TO CALL OUT SOME OTHER FACTS THAT COINCIDE WITH THAT.

THE SAME ACTION THAT YOU'RE BLAMING TRUMP FOR ALSO IS WHAT HAPPENING ON A DAILY BASIS COMING FROM CONGRESSIONAL FLOOR OF ANTI MAGA MAKE AMERICA GREAT.

WE'RE CONSIDERED LESS THAN AND WE ARE CONSIDERED A THREAT TO AMERICA.

AND THAT'S BEING TOLD TO OUR FACES RIGHT NOW NOT FROM WHAT HAPPENED 50 YEARS AGO, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED ON A DAILY BASIS NOW.

ATTACK ON ME PERSONALLY, AND THAT'S HOW I TAKE IT.

SO YES, I WILL SPEAK OUT.

I WILL VOICE MY OPINION ON IT.

RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER IN THE LAST ITEM ON THAT ONE IS IF A STATEMENT WAS MADE ABOUT EATING ANIMALS REGARDLESS OF EATING ANIMALS, THAT'S ALL IT WAS.

ALL I CAN STATE A FACT.

A FACT THAT I CAN PROVE THAT ILLEGALS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ILLEGALLY KILL AND LIVESTOCK AND KILL IN PETS. I CAN PROVE IT BECAUSE IT SHOWS IN MY BANK ACCOUNT.

SO BE IT.

UPSET BECAUSE SOMEBODY MADE FUN OF SOMEBODY EATING ANIMALS AND THEN HOLDING IT IN MY CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL DO THE SAME BACK TO TO THAT INDIVIDUAL.

I DON'T APPRECIATE IT.

AND SO DON'T USE THIS AS YOUR PLATFORM I CAN.

YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE UNBIASED UP THERE.