GOT VERO BEACH. TOMORROW WE GOT THE. [00:00:02] WE WILL BE MEETING IN GRANT AS WELL. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO THAT FACILITY? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN THERE? THE BANYAN ESTATE? YES, SIR. REALLY? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE. YES, SIR. INTERESTING PLACE WE'VE HAD. LEAGUE OF CITIES THERE TOO. REALLY? YEAH, I THINK I'VE BEEN TO A WEDDING THERE AS WELL. YEAH. BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. IT'S NOT AS LARGE AS IT LOOKS. YEAH, YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. OKAY. IT'S 1759. OH, THERE WE GO. OKAY. OH, THERE HE IS. STAND UP, YOUNG MAN. GOOD MORNING SIR. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. YEAH. GOOD TO SEE YOU, MR. WEINBERG. HE'S. HE'S HERE. TESTING. ONE. TWO. ONE. TWO. YES, MA'AM. THE MIC EASY. TESTING. 1212. TEST 1212. ONE TWO. ONE TWO. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF. MY NAME IS ROB DEAN. YOU KNOW WHAT? YEAH. TESTING. ONE, TWO. HOLD ON. TESTING. OKAY. YOU GIVE THEM A PLACE. THAT'S A NICE HAIRCUT. YOU GOT DONNY. IT'S ABOUT TIME, SON. TESTING. ONE. TWO. ONE. TWO. TEST. PROBANDO. PROBANDO. TESTING. ONE. TWO. ONE TWO. A12012. YOU WANT ME TO USE? OH, THERE WE GO. I'M LIKE, WAY OFF, OKAY. [CALL TO ORDER:] YEAH. ALRIGHT. NOW. ALRIGHT. NOW. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING 20 2425 TO ORDER. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. PLEASE RISE. PLEASE TURN AND FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! ROLL CALL, MISS JONES. MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON PRESENT. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG HERE. MISS SHERMAN HERE. MISS SMITH HERE. WELL. THANK YOU. PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE. [PUBLIC HEARING:] I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I HAVE A STATEMENT TO READ. THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS TENTATIVELY ADOPTED AN OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 6.7339 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. THE TENTATIVE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 6.7339 EXCEEDS THE TRIM CURRENT YEAR. AGGREGATE ROLLED BACK RATE OF 6.5627 BY 2.61%. THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE BEING ABOVE THE 3% CAP IS CAUSED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE 3% CAP, CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATING MILLAGE. RATE INCREASE OVER THE ROLLED BACK RATE IS ANTICIPATED. HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFIT ASSOCIATED EXPENDITURE INCREASES OF 5%, FUNDING FOR POLICE AND FIRE PENSION CONTRIBUTION OBLIGATIONS OF 9.6 MILLION, RESULTING IN A 29.9% INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR. 1.7 MILLION IN HIGH PRIORITY FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS REQUIRING PAYMENT. ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND INVESTMENTS TOTALING 3.2 5,000,004 4 MILLION IN PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENTS, INCLUDING 35 ADDITIONAL FTE POSITIONS FOR THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND SEVEN ADDITIONAL FTE POSITIONS FOR INTERNAL SERVICE DEPARTMENTS TO SUPPORT THE CITY'S GROWTH. THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA HAS ALSO TENTATIVELY ADOPTED A DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF 1.1210 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. THE TENTATIVE DEBT MILLAGE RATE SHALL GENERATE ESTIMATED REVENUES TOTALING $10,013,557, BASED ON THE GROSS TAXABLE VALUE CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, ASSUMING AN ESTIMATED 96% COLLECTION RATE. THESE REVENUES ARE RESTRICTED AND ARE DESIGNATED FOR PAYMENTS OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. SERIES 2019 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,525,250. THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2021 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,447,650, AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2023. DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,040,825, ALL DUE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET YEAR. [00:05:08] ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE BEEN INVITED TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE, STARTING AT 6 P.M. IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA, 32 907. A FINAL DECISION ON THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE MADE THIS EVENING. AND LASTLY, THE OPERATING MILLAGE VERSUS ROLLBACK PERCENTAGE DIFFERENCE. THE PROPOSED RATE OF 6.7339 BRINGS IN TAXES OF $64,762,980. THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 6.5627 BRINGS IN $60,568,774. THE DIFFERENCE, AS I STATED, IS 2.61%. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO ASK THE PUBLIC. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND STEP FORWARD. AS I CALL YOUR NAME. PLEASE STEP FORWARD, MA'AM. STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. HI, MY NAME IS EVA PADILLA AND I LIVE AT 1625 WACKER AVENUE SOUTHEAST. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M NEW IN PALM BAY. I'VE BEEN HERE ONE YEAR AND I GOT MY TAX BILL AND IT'S $4,000. AND IF THERE'S A BUDGET INCREASE, IT'S GOING TO BE 4300. MY REALTOR NEVER WARNED ME THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. AND I NEVER EXPECTED THAT KIND OF TAX BILL. I AM RETIRED. I TAKE CARE OF MY SPECIAL NEEDS SON, AND I FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW I'M OVERWHELMED BECAUSE IT'S IT'S MUCH MORE THAN I CAN. MUCH MORE THAN I CAN THAN I BARGAINED FOR. SO I'M JUST HERE TO SEE HOW THESE PROCEEDINGS GO. AND I'M SURE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE OUT THERE. I'M JUST THE ONLY ONE HERE THAT IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAXES GOING UP IN PALM BAY. MY SISTER TWO YEARS AGO BOUGHT A HOUSE IN PALM BEACH COUNTY. IT'S A TWO STORY LUXURIOUS HOUSE. SHE HAS A VERY RICH HUSBAND AND HER TAXES ARE ONLY 5000. SO I JUST WAS SHOCKED. I THOUGHT THAT PALM BAY. THE REASON I CHOSE IT WAS BECAUSE OF ITS AFFORDABILITY. AND I HEARD THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF RETIREES HERE. SO THIS IS KIND OF A LITTLE MIND BLOWING TO ME. SO IF YOU CAN JUST CONSIDER PEOPLE LIKE ME WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR DECISION, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT WITH GREAT RESPECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO JUST ADDRESS THE THE THE APPRAISED VALUE AND GO OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHEN YOU HAVE NEW HOMES. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WITH, YOU KNOW, NEW RESIDENTS IN AN EXISTING HOME. SHE PURCHASED THE HOME? YES, SIR. NOT KNOWING ALL THE DETAILS OF YOUR PARTICULAR SITUATION I'M DEFINITELY GOING TO ASK OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, LARRY WOJCIECHOWSKI. YOU CAN WAVE AT HER TO COME AND TALK TO YOU. WHEN? HOW MAY I ASK A QUESTION, SIR? WHEN DID YOU BUY YOUR YOUR PROPERTY? THIS YEAR. 2023? 2023? YEAH. SO IT'S LIKELY TO BE A SITUATION. AND IT WAS AN EXISTING HOUSE OR A NEW HOME. RIGHT. SO IT'S LIKELY TO BE A SITUATION THAT WE FIND OFTEN WHEN FOLKS REACH OUT TO US THAT THE PROPERTY HAD A CERTAIN VALUE FROM WHEN IT WAS MAYBE FIRST BUILT OR THE PRIOR OWNERS. AND SO WHEN THE PROPERTY IS SOLD TO A NEW OWNER, THE VALUATION CHANGES AT THE AT THE COUNTY LEVEL. AND WHEN THE VALUATION CHANGES, EVEN IF THE TAX RATE HAS GONE DOWN, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE HERE. BUT EVEN IF IT WENT DOWN, YOUR TAXES ARE STILL LIKELY TO GO UP BECAUSE THE VALUATION OF THE PROPERTY HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE ORIGINAL VALUATION THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER USED TO CALCULATE IT. SO THERE IS A PROCESS TO REQUEST SOME RELIEF FROM THE COUNTY. THERE'S A PROCESS THAT I CAN HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR TALK TO YOU ABOUT AS WELL, BUT THAT MAY BE WHAT HAPPENS. SO IT DOESN'T SOUND TO ME, BASED ON THE FACTS THAT YOU'VE SHARED, THAT THAT WOULD REALLY BE SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY RELATED TO A CITY TAX INCREASE, BUT MORE RELATED TO THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY CHANGING FROM ORIGINAL RECORD TO THE NEW SALE VALUE. SO THANK YOU MA'AM. SO YOU HAD YOUR HAND RAISED. YOU'RE THE NEXT SPEAKER. MY NAME IS DANIEL COTTERMAN. LIVE AT 313 AINSLIE STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY. 32 909 I HAD THE SAME CONCERN AS SHE DOES. I'M RETIRED, AND I DO BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. WHEN YOU RETIRE, THE BIGGEST YOU'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF SOCIAL SECURITY IS ROUGHLY $1,200 A MONTH. [00:10:04] NOW, MY SOCIAL SECURITY AT $1,200 A MONTH, PAID MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT, AND IT EVEN PAID MY TAXES. NOW, MY $1,200, I'M ABOUT $42 SHORT AND JUST MAKING MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT. SO WHEN YOU'RE ADDING ANOTHER SIX POINT WHATEVER PERCENTAGE MILLAGE, MILLAGE RATE OKAY, MY TAX RATE IS GOING TO GO UP ROUGHLY BETWEEN 3 TO $600. I CAN'T AFFORD THAT, SIR. I MEAN, I'VE HAD TO GO BACK TO WORK JUST TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BUY GROCERIES, AS WE'VE ALL DISCUSSED IN HERE BEFORE. OKAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO KILL ME. I'M MOST LIKELY, IF THAT DOES PASS. AND NOT THIS YEAR, BUT MOST LIKELY NEXT YEAR, I WILL END UP HAVING TO SELL MY HOME AND MOVE OUT OF THIS CITY THAT I'VE LIVED IN FOR 23 YEARS. WHEN I FIRST MOVED HERE, I WAS HOMELESS. I HAD NO NO JOB. I LIVED IN MY CAR RIGHT HERE ON INDIAN RIVER, AND IT TOOK ME 16 YEARS OF HARD WORK TO BUY MY HOME RIGHT DOWN THE STREET HERE, AND I BUSTED MY BUTT FOR IT. AND I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DIE IN THAT HOUSE. I REALLY, TRULY WOULD. AND A HIGHER TAX RATE IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW ME TO DO THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME. MICHAEL MORIARTY, 742 CORNELIA AVENUE SOUTHEAST SINCE YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO ASSESS IT BY THE MILLAGE NOW. HOMES ARE GOING TO TAKE A DROP IN THE NEXT YEAR. OUR TAX IS GOING TO GO DOWN. IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASSESS IT BY THE THE AMOUNT OF THE HOME. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION FOR EVERYONE TO ASK HERE. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T DROP, WHAT'S THE POINT OF RAISING THEM NOW? THAT'S ALL I NEED SOME QUESTIONS I NEED SOME ANSWERS ON THIS. I THINK EVERYONE DOES. I THINK WE'RE TAKING A NOSEDIVE BY INCREASING IT BY MILLAGE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE SITE? OKAY, SO I'M GOING TO DIRECT. MADAM SHERMAN, CAN YOU GO OVER THE MILLAGE RATE AND WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE WAS LAST YEAR? SURE. SO THE WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I GUESS THE ANSWER PARTIALLY THAT QUESTION IF A PROPERTY VALUATION GOES DOWN. SO TODAY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER SAYS YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH $200,000, AND NEXT YEAR THEY SAY IT'S WORTH $150,000 AS AN EXAMPLE. THEORETICALLY, YOUR TAXES WOULD DECREASE, BUT THAT'S ALSO BASED ON AN ASSUMPTION THAT YOUR TAX RATE HAS NOT CHANGED. BUT THE YOU KNOW, IT'S SO IT'S IT'S HARD TO SAY FOR SURE THAT THE THE TAX RATE WOULD DECREASE OR THE AMOUNT OF TAXES WOULD DECREASE. BUT IN THE CASE OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING BASICALLY OUR AS I STATED EARLIER, OUR OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 6.7339 IS GOING TO BE 2.61% ABOVE THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 6.5627. THE ROLLBACK RATE OF 6.5627 IS THE RATE THAT WOULD ACHIEVE BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MILLAGE REVENUE THIS YEAR, COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST YOUR SIDE. SEEING NONE COUNCIL YOU WISH TO DISCUSS ANY? YEAH. JUST. I'D LIKE. I'D LIKE MR. SHERMAN TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE WAS LAST YEAR. LAST YEAR'S MILLAGE RATE WAS 7.5995. YEAH. SO WE'RE REDUCING THE MILLAGE RATE. WE HAVE DONE IT EVERY, EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST COUNTLESS YEARS, EVER SINCE THE ECONOMY STARTED PICKING BACK UP. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE MILLAGE RATE IS DECREASED SUBSTANTIALLY NOW. THE MILITARY THAT WE'RE SETTING AT 6.7339, WE'RE PROPOSING IS I KNOW MR. SHERMAN SAID IT'S 2.7% ABOVE THE ROLLBACK RATE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF DECEPTIVE BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MILLAGE AND THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PERCENTAGE. THE ACTUAL MILLAGE RATE OVER ROLLBACK IS 0.1712 DIFFERENT FROM THE ROLLBACK RATE. IT'S MINUSCULE. AND AS FAR AS THAT WELL THAT LADY LEFT. BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT ALMOST NOBODY PAYS $4,000 A YEAR IN TAXES IN WEST PALM BEACH. I'M A REAL ESTATE APPRAISER BY PROFESSION. MY HOUSE WAS NOT LUXURIOUS. I LIVED IN HOLLYWOOD. MY TAXES 13 YEARS AGO WERE A LITTLE OVER $4,000 A YEAR. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND MOVING ON TO BUSINESS. [BUSINESS:] [00:15:01] ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 2024, THAT'S 28. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION. CHAPTER 33. CHAPTER 33 FIRE DEPARTMENT RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS ONE OF A SERIES OF RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE ALL RELATED TO VARIOUS RATES, FEES AND CHARGES. THIS FIRST ONE IS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANYONE WISH TO STEP FORWARD? STATE YOUR NAME, SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE THREE ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE, FIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR 2025, WAS UP $425,000. WHEN I FIND STRANGE WITH THIS WAS IN 2023 GOING THROUGH YOUR CHARTS, YOU HAD 0%. SO HOW COULD THAT BE A 0% CHANGE FROM 2023 TO 2025, WHEN I'M UP $425,000? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION. NUMBER TWO, OVERALL BUDGET FOR 2023. THE ACTUAL WAS 19.9 MILLION. YET THE BUDGET FOR 2024 WAS 24 MILLION. YET THE ACTUAL SPENT FOR 2024 WAS 37.6 MILLION, WHICH WAS A DIFFERENCE OF $13 MILLION. AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S SIGNIFICANT. HERE'S WHAT I BUDGET AND HERE'S WHAT I END UP SPENDING. HOW DO WE PLAN WHEN WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT? IT'S A BIG PERCENTAGE OF DIFFERENCE. NUMBER THREE 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET IS ACTUALLY WHICH WAS NICE WAS A 11.9 PERCENTAGE LESS WHICH IS GOOD. SO HOW COULD YOU EVEN CONSIDER A MILLAGE RATE OF OF DEDICATED TWO MILLS WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY PROPOSING A LESS PERCENTAGE RATE OF A BUDGET? NOW, I COULD EVEN TIE THAT FOR THE SAME STATEMENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. RIGHT. BECAUSE THEIR BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR'S PROPOSAL WAS POINT WAS 9.8% LESS THAN WHAT WAS PROPOSED. SO I FIND THAT STRANGE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING A LESS PERCENTAGE IN THE ACTUAL BUDGET. YET YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT DEDICATING A MILLAGE RATE OF TWO MILLS DEDICATED FOR POLICE AND FIRE. I JUST FIND THAT STRANGE AND BEING THE TYPE OF PERSON I AM, I'LL QUESTION AND CHALLENGE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. BATTEN, I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE REFERENCES YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, SO WE MAY HAVE TO TALK OFFLINE. YOUR FIRE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT REFERENCE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS IN THE PARTICULAR RESOLUTION WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO MAYBE WE CAN GET WITH YOU AFTERWARD, CHIEF, AND TALK TO MR. BATTEN. REFERENCE THE EXPENDITURE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 23 AND 24 AND THEN THE BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL FOR 2024 ESTIMATES. A LOT OF THAT IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO DO WITH A LOT OF THE PROJECTS AND THE ADDITIONAL THINGS WE'VE ADDED TO THE BUDGET DURING THE YEAR TO, TO MEET THE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS OF THE CITY. AND THE OTHER NUMBERS. OF COURSE, YOU MENTIONED THE TWO MIL FOR POLICE AND FIRE DEDICATED PUBLIC SAFETY MILLAGE THAT THAT NO LONGER IS EVEN IN CONSIDERATION, AS YOU ALL KNOW. BUT THE 1.9% AND THINGS THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING, I WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND TALK ABOUT OUR BUDGET AND WORK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU. I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. GENTLEMEN, ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. YES, SIR. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, BUSINESS NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 2024, DASH 29. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION. CHAPTER 36 RECREATION DEPARTMENT RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS THE LIST FOR THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT. VERY MINOR TWEAK, INCLUDING A REMOVAL OF A REDUNDANT AND CONFLICTING RENTAL FEE FOR THE TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER, A KITCHEN THAT WAS ALREADY KIND OF IN THERE. [00:20:02] AND SO IT WAS STATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAT WAS CAUSING CONFUSION. SO THAT WAS REMOVED. BUT THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE CHANGES FOR THAT ONE. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR? GO AHEAD. SIR. THE ONLY THING I DO THINK WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION PUTTING PARKS AND RECREATION BACK TOGETHER. SO THAT'S ALL. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. WELL, I GUESS WE COULD DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, BUT. YEAH. OKAY. I GOT IT. OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY. SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE, RESOLUTION 20 2430. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 96, FLORIDA BUILDING CODE RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHANGES IN THE BUILDING. BUILDING FEE SECTION HERE. SEVERAL OF THEM ARE JUST REALLY FOR CLARIFICATION. LIKE CLARIFYING LANGUAGE REGARDING THE REFUND OF PERMIT FEES. THERE ARE SOME SIMPLIFICATIONS THAT ARE OCCURRING ON SOME OF THE FEE STRUCTURES RELATED TO LIKE FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS THAT ARE REALLY NEW, NEW PROGRAM TYPE OF ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ON PAGE 4 OR 5 OF YOUR ATTACHED RESOLUTION. THE FIRST IS AN AFTER HOURS INSPECTION FEE. IT'S A NEW OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE IF WE HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE TO DO AFTER HOURS INSPECTIONS. SO THERE'S A FEE FOR THAT. THE SECOND ONE TIES TO A LOT OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THINGS WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING. AND IT'S A COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL BUILDING PERMIT FEE REDUCTION PROGRAM. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR BUSINESSES RETAINING OR CREATING A MINIMUM OF TEN FULL TIME JOBS AND CONSTRUCTING A NEW BUILDING OR EXPANDING ITS EXISTING BUILDING FOOTPRINT, OR MAKING INTERIOR RENOVATIONS TO AN EXISTING STRUCTURE TO ACCOMMODATE BUSINESS GROWTH. THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR A 75% REDUCTION OF THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROACH TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THOSE TYPES OF BUILDS. AND THE THIRD CHANGE IS ACTUALLY A REALLY CREATIVE CHANGE THAT WAS OFFERED BY ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS AND IT'S REFERENCED, IT'S ACTUALLY A MILITARY DISCOUNT. IT'S REFERENCED IN THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S ALSO IN ITEM NUMBER TEN ON YOUR AGENDA, WHICH IS THE WOULD BE THE ADOPTION OF THE ACTUAL PROGRAM AND POLICY DETAILS. BUT IN SHORT CESAR RAMIREZ VILLAMIL, WHO IS ONE OF OUR, OUR TEAM MEMBERS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHO IS A MARINE CORPS VETERAN. YES, SIR. HE HE ACTUALLY CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA AND BROUGHT IT TO HIS LEADERSHIP TEAM. AND THEY THEY SUPPORTED IT AND BROUGHT IT TO US. AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU. AND IT'S IT'S REALLY THE IDEA OF A REDUCTION OF 50% OR UP TO $250 OF A PERMIT FEE WAIVER, ESSENTIALLY FOR THE BUILDING PERMIT FEE PORTION OF A PERMIT. IT WOULD BE FOR ACTIVE DUTY RETIRED MILITARY VETERANS IN THE COMMUNITY. AND IT'S JUST A BASICALLY SOMETHING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN SUSTAIN FINANCIALLY. AND THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY GREAT IDEA. AND I CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROGRAM NOW OR IN ITEM NUMBER TEN, BUT THAT'S THAT'S INCLUDED IN THIS FEE RESOLUTION. THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL. YOU KNOW I WOULD LOVE AND I THINK ITEM TEN DISCUSSES THE THE NAME OF THIS MILITARY DISCOUNT, WHICH I'M I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF. BUT I'D LIKE TO ADD MARINE CORPS VETERAN CÉSAR RAMIREZ VILLAMIL MILITARY DISCOUNT TO THAT. I'D LIKE TO ADD AND HONOR THE FACT THAT HE IS A MARINE CORPS VETERAN, WHICH IS TO ME, THAT'S THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES. SO I WOULD I WOULD TRULY BE IN FAVOR OF NAMING THIS AFTER AFTER OUR EMPLOYEE WHO WORKED HARD AND AND BRINGING THIS FORWARD TO US. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? STEP FORWARD. MASTER CHIEF NAVY RETIREE BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAD IT WHERE I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON AND ON NUMBER TEN, BUT SINCE YOU PRESENTED IT AT THIS POINT, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS MY STATEMENTS FOR NUMBER TEN NOW, AND THEN [00:25:01] WE'LL COME BACK TO TRY AND MAKE PROCEED THROUGH. FIRST OFF, $250. THAT'S NOTICEABLE WHEN YOU'RE STRUGGLING. I APPRECIATE THAT AS A VETERAN, I GREATLY APPRECIATE. I TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SO MANY THINGS THAT I CAN THAT ARE AVAILABLE. HOWEVER, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS FOR VETERANS OR ACTIVE DUTY MEMBERS. AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT AS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. MY MILITARY MEMBERS, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE SERVED DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HELP SUPPORT OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. THIS IS THE FUNDS THAT SUPPORTS MY GOVERNMENT. IF I'M THE ONE TO WELL, I WANT TO I WANT MY STRONG GOVERNMENT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. THAT'S PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT AND THAT'S HOW I SEE THIS. SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. I APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO TRY AND SAVE MONEY FOR VETERANS. HOWEVER, I DON'T SEE THIS AS A POSITIVE ACTION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AND YOU KNOW, HOW I STAND ON TREATING PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY JUST BECAUSE OF THEIR JOB. I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. AND SO I'M VOICING THAT OPINION AS SUCH. I LIKED MY MONEY, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO SUPPORT MY GOVERNMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND IT. YEP. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2431, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEARS 2024 THROUGH 2025 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028, PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE TEN IMPACT FEES, CHAPTER 103 IMPACT FEES SUBCHAPTERS PARTS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES, TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES IMPACT FEES, AND WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM MADAM CHAIRMAN. I THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE TITLE OF THE RESOLUTION. IT REFERENCED WHAT? AND I FORGOT TO ADVISE THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT REFERENCES WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES. THOSE ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS ONE. THAT'S IN A SEPARATE ORDINANCE. SO APOLOGIES. SO SHOULD WE READ THAT AGAIN? OH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM. IT'S A REVISED CAPTION. YEAH. THE CLERK HAS GIVEN ME THE NEW CAPTION. RESOLUTION 2024. THAT'S 31. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPT NEW RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028, PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE TEN IMPACT FEES, CHAPTER 103 IMPACT FEES SUBCHAPTERS PARTS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITY IMPACT FEES. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO THE PROPOSED INCREASES TO THE PARKS. EXCUSE ME? TO THE POLICE, FIRE AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES. IMPACT FEES. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE PARKS. JUST FOR REFRESHING OF THE PAST, WE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS AT THE AUGUST 13TH, 2024 COUNCIL MEETING AFTER WE HAD RECEIVED THE UPDATES FROM THE TWO CONSULTANTS HIRED TO DO THESE STUDIES FOR US. A DECISION WAS MADE EARLIER IN THE YEAR TO HOLD ON THE PARKS IMPACT FEE CHANGES BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PARKS MASTER PLANNING PROCESS. BUT THIS DOES INCLUDE THE THE RATES THAT WE PROVIDED TO YOU ALL THAT SHOW THAT MAXIMUM INCREASE WE COULD DO WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE HIGHER, HIGHER THRESHOLDS THAT THE STATE REQUIRES. NOW WITH THE FLORIDA STATUTES. THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR FOUR YEAR EXPANSION OF THE RATES FOR AGAIN, FOR POLICE, FIRE AND TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. THOSE ARE ALL LISTED IN THE AGENDA, AS YOU'LL RECALL FROM THE PAST PRESENTATIONS. SOME OF THOSE CHANGES ARE SMALL, AND SO THEY'RE REALLY DONE IN LIKE A YEAR OR TWO. THERE ARE ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF CATEGORIES WHERE IT ACTUALLY DECREASES OR MOVES VERY MINIMALLY, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM ARE PROPOSED TO BE INCREASING BASED ON THE SCHEDULE. AND IF ADOPTED TONIGHT THIS WOULD THESE WOULD TAKE EFFECT ESSENTIALLY 90 DAYS LATER. THAT'S THE THE THE WAITING PERIOD THAT THE STATE STATUTE REQUIRES. SO THESE, IF APPROVED, WOULD BE ADOPTED AND EFFECTIVE FOR JANUARY 1ST OF 2025. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION, SO I'LL BE SECONDING THIS SECOND. [00:30:01] WE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED. PASSES FOUR ZERO. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MADAM SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2432 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE OR EXCUSE ME, RESOLUTION INCLUDES A RANGE OF A HANDFUL OF CHANGES TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. SOME OF THESE CHANGES ARE MINOR INCREASES TO EXISTING FEES, LIKE THE MODEL HOME PRAIRIE HOME PLAN REVIEW FEE. THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE REGARDING TREE MITIGATION REMOVAL FEES THAT DOES AFFECT TREE REMOVAL AND INFILL LOTS, ETC.. THERE ARE ALSO A COUPLE OF FEES THAT ARE ADDED THAT WERE NOT IN HERE, BUT THEY ARE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A FEE SPELLED OUT IN THE IN THE RESOLUTION FOR THEM. AND SO IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO DISCUSS THOSE WITH YOU ALL. YEAH. THE THE FLOODPLAIN. YES. THAT WAS NOT ONE THAT WAS IN THERE BUT IS BEING ADDED IN AS A NEW FEE. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. YES SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR? I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. GOD BLESS YOU. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 20 2433, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO 2025 PURSUANT TO CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS SPECIFIED HEREIN. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. YES, THANK YOU MAYOR. SO THIS IS A GROUP OF FEES AND THIS RESOLUTION THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT OF A MIXTURE OF THINGS, BUT THE TWO AREAS WHERE THERE ARE CHANGES. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS WHERE THE SOLID WASTE FEES ARE HELD. AND PER OUR CONTRACT EVERY YEAR THOSE RATES GO UP BY 3%. SO THOSE ARE REFLECTED IN THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION. ALSO THERE ARE SOME CHANGES AND TWEAKS TO SOME OF THE CODE NUISANCE LIEN RELATED COSTS. AND ALSO A FORECLOSURE REGISTRATION FEE IS LISTED IN THERE AS WELL. AND THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH THE BULK OF THE CHANGES. AS COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE'RE MOVING INTO USING A FORECLOSURE REGISTRY PROGRAM IN THE NEW YEAR. AND SO THAT THAT WOULD TIE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT. ALTHOUGH WE ARE STILL EVALUATING THAT FEE, AND WE MAY BRING BACK A CHANGE TO INCREASE THE FORECLOSURE REGISTRY NUMBER, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING YOU'LL SEE LATER IF WE NEED TO. YEAH, IT'S BEEN OVER 14 YEARS SINCE WE LOOKED AT THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? SINCE 2010. THAT'S THE LAST TIME WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITH FORECLOSURES. YES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER SIX. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 20 2434, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION, A PAY PLAN, AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025, RECEIVING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTIAL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THE NEXT FEW ARE ALL REALLY PROGRAM PLANS THAT ARE PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET ADOPTION PROCESS. SO THIS IS THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OF OUR PAY PLANS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS REFLECTING THE TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND THE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THAT WERE ADDED THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS. SO ALL OF THAT IS REFLECTED HERE, INCLUDING THE 18 ADDITIONAL FIRE AND 17 ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL POLICE POSITIONS THAT YOU ALL APPROVED EARLIER. SO THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THIS RESOLUTION. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE. COUNCIL. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. [00:35:05] DEPUTY MAYOR. NO. NO. GOOD. ANY ANY OTHER COMMENTS, GENTLEMEN? NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 2024. THAT'S 35. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 THROUGH 2028 THROUGH 2029 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS IS AN ITEM THAT REFLECTS ADOPTING OUR NEW FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEARS, AND YOU'LL SEE THE BULK OF THESE ITEMS, AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, ARE RELATED TO UTILITIES FUNDED PROJECTS. THERE ARE A HANDFUL THAT ARE FUNDED OUT OF STORM WATER AS WELL, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE GENERAL FUND CAPITAL ITEM REQUESTS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN HERE AS YET. AND WE'LL BE DOING WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PAST YEARS AND BRING YOU A SEPARATE LIST AS WE LOOK AT OUR YEAR END FUND BALANCE FOR CONSIDERATION, FOR FUNDING OF SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE YET TO BE FUNDED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR. FELIX. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 20 2436. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, LEVYING THE VALOREM PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE RATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES IN THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF STATE LAW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. ON THIS ONE, BEFORE I PROCEED, I WANT TO CORRECT SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER WHEN I WAS ASKED WHAT THE PRIOR YEAR MILLAGE RATE WAS. I KEEP SKIPPING A YEAR AND GOING BACK TWO YEARS. SO 7.5995 WAS OUR TWO YEAR AGO MILLAGE RATE. OUR CURRENT YEAR MILLAGE RATE IS 7.0171. SO THAT ONE IS A REDUCTION THERE. AND THEN OUR NEW PROPOSED IS 6.7339. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT MISSTATEMENT EARLIER. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS THE ADOPTION OF THE MILLAGE RATE, BOTH FOR AD VALOREM OPERATING MILLAGE AND THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE. SO JUST AGAIN, FOR FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION, THE PROPOSED AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX OPERATING MILLAGE RATE IS 6.7339 MILLS, AND THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENT PURPOSES IS 1.1210 MILLS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ANY DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NOTHING FURTHER. YES, SIR. NO. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN. MADAM SMITH, RESOLUTION 20 2437. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AUTHORIZING A MILITARY DISCOUNT ON BUILDING PERMIT FEES, PROVIDING FOR THE DURATION OF THE PROGRAM. PROVIDING FOR A SAVINGS PROVISION. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS THE MILITARY DISCOUNT PROGRAM WE SPOKE OF UP EARLIER. THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION INCLUDES MORE OF THE DETAILS OF THE PROGRAM AND PROCEDURES. I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IT STIPULATES THAT IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY RENEW UNLESS CITY COUNCIL REVOKES IT, SO IT WOULD BE A CONTINUAL PROGRAM UNLESS YOU DIRECT US OTHERWISE. ADDITIONALLY, JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THIS WOULD BE ONLY FOR HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES THAT HAVE TO BE OCCUPIED BY THE THE MILITARY INDIVIDUAL. AND IT'S ELIGIBLE, ACTIVE, RESERVE OR HONORABLY DISCHARGED VETERANS. AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THE PROCESS AND THE CREATION OF THE VERIFICATION OF WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR THAT BASED ON THE PARAMETERS OF THE PROGRAM. AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. WELL, THE ONLY THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, WHAT WE NEED THAT IN A MOTION TO ADD MARINE CORPS VETERAN, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF WE'RE GOING TO CREDIT THE PROGRAM OR THE DISCOUNT IN HONOR OF CESAR RAMIREZ VILLAMIL TO TO JUST. [00:40:01] YEAH, IT DOES FLOW NATURALLY OFF THE TONGUE FROM ME, DOESN'T IT? MARINE CORPS VETERAN. SO I WOULD, I WOULD JUST, WOULD YOU NEED THAT IN A MOTION TO, TO DO THAT? BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO NAME IT. SO I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, IF I MAY. YEAH. YES. SURE, SURE. ABSOLUTELY. SO THEN, YES, YOU SHOULD INCLUDE IT IN YOUR MOTION. JUST INCLUDE IT IN THE MOTION. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I MADAM SHERMAN. YES. DEPUTY MAYOR HAS A FEW QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. MAYOR, NOT NOT HAVING A CHANCE TO GO OVER THE RESOLUTION AND AND, YOU KNOW, LET ME STATE THAT I'LL BE IN SUPPORT OF IT. JUST WANT SOME CLARITY AS TO HOW THIS WOULD APPLY. SO I GO TO A BUILDER. I'M A VETERAN. I GO TO A BUILDER. SO THE BUILDER IS BUILDING A SPEC HOME. SO HOW DOES THAT WORK? BECAUSE THE BUILDER WILL TURN AND SELL THAT HOME TO ME. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET. OR HOW I'M HOW THAT TECHNICALITY OF THAT. I'LL HAVE OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS SPEAK TO THAT PROCEDURAL QUESTION. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION, TOO. YEAH. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. SO OUR INTENTION WAS THIS WAS NOT FOR THE BUILDERS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. AND TYPICALLY SPEAKING, YOUR BUILDER IS BUILDING THE HOUSE AND THEN SELLING IT TO SOMEONE. MANY TIMES THEY DON'T KNOW WHO THAT PERSON IS WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING THE SPEC HOUSE ANYWAY, BUT IT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR THE BUILDERS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. IT'S MORE IN LINE WITH, LET'S SAY THEY WANT TO ADD ON TO THEIR HOME, OR THEY ARE DOING A REMODEL, ADDING A POOL, THINGS LIKE THAT. THEN THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS DISCOUNT. OKAY. NOT NOT NECESSARILY FOR IT COULD BE A NEW HOME AS WELL. BUT THE THE INITIAL THE INITIAL APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT OR APPLICATION WOULD HAVE TO BE STATED THAT IT IS ON AND CORRECT. IF THE CONTRACTOR THEMSELVES WERE A VETERAN OR AN ACTIVE MILITARY MEMBER, THEN THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT DISCOUNT. OTHERWISE IT WOULD NOT APPLY. OKAY. YEAH, THAT RAISES SOME RED FLAGS BECAUSE WE SEE HOW BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS, IF THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH SOMETHING, THEY WILL. THAT'S WHY YOUR YOUR STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB ON TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF THEM. BUT WE SEE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH IN REFERENCE TO THE HOUSE. YOU REFERENCED THAT THEY HAD JUST MOVED IN. LIKE SO I. I UNDERSTAND THE ADVANTAGES THAT IT CAN PROVIDE FOR VETERANS, BUT I SEE HOW THE DISADVANTAGES IT CAN ALSO PROVIDE WITH OTHERS MANIPULATING THE SYSTEM. SO IT WOULD BE UP TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, TO TO MONITOR THAT. BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD NOT BE A CONTRACTOR THAT COULD APPLY FOR IT AND GAIN IT. IT'S ONLY WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL COMES IN AND SAYS, HEY, I'M PULLING MY OWN PERMIT OR I AM A CONTRACTOR, BUT I'M DOING THIS FOR ME AND STATED WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THIS PROGRAM IS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL IT OR LEASE IT FOR A YEAR AFTER THAT, SIMILAR TO THE OWNER BUILDER STATUTES THAT APPLY. SO WE'VE TAKEN EVERY POSSIBLE PRECAUTION IN THAT REGARD. OR IF IT'S A VETERAN CONTRACTOR OR A STILL A VETERAN CONTRACTOR THEMSELVES, UNLESS THEY'RE BUILDING IT FOR THEMSELVES, COULD NOT USE THAT MILITARY DISCOUNT. THEY CANNOT USE IT FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT'S GOT TO BE. YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ESSENTIALLY IT'S NOT GOING TO HOME DEPOT SAYING THAT I'M A VETERAN. YOU GET. NO IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. THANK YOU SIR. NOT FOR NOTHING THOUGH. BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, LOWE'S AND HOME DEPOT, THEY DON'T JUST TAKE ANYBODY'S WORD. YEAH. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I NEVER TRIED IT ANY OTHER. ANY. ANY ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU JOHN. GREAT PROGRAM. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. LIKE I SAID, I PREFER FOR IT TO SAY MARINE CORPS VETERAN. SEESAW MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2024. DASH 37, NAMING THE DISCOUNT PROGRAM AFTER MARINE CORPS VETERAN CÉSAR RAMIREZ VILLAMIL. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR OF MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 11, MADAM. MADAM SMITH OR MADAM SHERMAN, AS YOU WERE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS WHAT WE BRING TO YOU AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH FISCAL YEAR, WHICH IS THE SPREADSHEET THAT IS THE LIST OF ALL OF THE TRAVEL ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT BUDGETS CITY WIDE. THE PURPOSE OF THIS, AS YOU ALL WILL RECALL, IS TO RECEIVE APPROVAL IN AS ONE ITEM FOR THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUDGETED, INCLUDED FOR [00:45:02] TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES, AND SO THAT WE ARE NOT BRINGING YOU MULTIPLE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA ITEMS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. THIS IS ALL APPROVED AS ONE. AND THEN WE BRING TO YOU DURING THE YEAR ANY CHANGES, ANY NEW TRAINING OR TRAVEL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WERE NOT BUDGETED OR IF THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN SOME WAY, WE BRING THOSE BACK TO YOU ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. BECAUSE WE DID THIS LAST YEAR AS WELL. HOW MANY ITEMS WERE BROUGHT THAT WEREN'T INCLUDED WITHIN THE PAST FISCAL YEAR? I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THAT OFFHAND. I'M LOOKING AT THE FINANCE. I MEAN, WE COULD PULL THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU IF I CAN GET THAT LATER. SO YOU'RE LOOKING. YES, SIR. SO YOU'D BE LOOKING FOR JUST THE, LIKE IF WE'VE HAD 20 BECAUSE WE. YEAH, WE APPROVED THIS LAST YEAR. BUT OVER THE PAST SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETINGS, I SEE, YOU KNOW, TRAVEL AND TRAINING AND TRAVEL AND TRAINING. SO I JUST WANTED TO ESTIMATE OVER THE PAST YEAR OF HOW MANY ADDITIONAL TO THIS ALREADY APPROVED IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE. YEAH, WE CAN GET THAT FOR YOU. ALSO, I THINK I KNOW THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME THAT WERE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR. AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE ONES THAT WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FINANCIAL DETAILS. SO IF THERE'S A CHANGE IN THE COST, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW THE LOCATION, SO THAT AFFECTS IT AS WELL. SO WE CAN PULL THE DETAILS FOR YOU FOR THE LAST FISCAL YEAR. CERTAINLY IT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION FOR COUNCIL IF YOU WANT US ONLY TO BRING THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE BUDGET. BECAUSE CERTAINLY WE BUDGET FOR FOR TRAVEL TRAINING IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE A CHANGE AND SUDDENLY A CONFERENCE COMES UP THAT MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO SEND A STAFF MEMBER TO BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. WE'RE STILL BRINGING IT BACK TO YOU. BUT IF YOU ALL DID NOT WANT TO SEE THOSE, WE COULD CERTAINLY JUST SAY IF IT'S WITHIN THAT OPERATING BUDGET AND THEY HAVE THE DOLLARS TO DO IT, THAT THEY COULD JUST DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO SEE THOSE. THAT WOULD BE YOUR YOUR DISCRETION. I THINK WE SHOULD STILL SEE THEM. YEAH, I WAS JUST YEAH, YEAH. WE JUST WANT TO SEE HOW IT'S IT'S APPLICABLE. LIKE HOW HE WANTED TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW HOW WE'RE MISSING THE MARK. IF WE'RE BUDGETING FOR 20. THEN WHY WHY ARE WE SEEING TEN ADDITIONAL. SO SURE, I, I HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS SAYING. SO WITH THAT, ARE YOU GOOD, SIR? ALL RIGHT, SIR, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, ORDNANCE, 20 2449. [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 200 UTILITIES CODE BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES, AND CHARGES FOR THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEMS AND SERVICES. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND MADAM SHERMAN, I THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. EXCUSE ME. THE NEXT FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE ALL FINAL READINGS. SO WE TALKED ABOUT THESE AT THE LAST MEETING. THIS ONE IS SPECIFIC TO MOST OF THE TYPICAL RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR THE UTILITIES INCLUDING METERS, RATES FOR SERVICE, FIRE PROTECTION AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS. SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECONDED BY. IT SEEMS TO BE A TIE. SO WHO WANTS TO YIELD? COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASS. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 50, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 201 SEWER USE SUBCHAPTER MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS BY ADJUSTING PERMIT FEES AND OTHER CHARGES RELATED TO THE CITY'S UTILITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MR. SHERMAN TO PRESENT THE CASE. THANK YOU SIR. THIS IS SOME MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS RELATED TO THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM. REALLY JUST LIFT STATION AND FATS, OILS AND GREASE PROGRAM FEES. [00:50:02] SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, I'M ASKING THE AUDIENCE IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 51, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 202 RECLAIMED WATER BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES AND CHARGES FOR RECLAIMED WATER, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU SIR. THESE ARE FINAL READING FOR THE RECLAIMED WATER RATES AND FEES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH? PLEASE STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. SINCE WE'RE DECIDING WHAT THE FEE IS GOING TO BE FOR THE RECLAIMED WATER, WHICH MEANS WE'RE PROCESSING IT, WE'RE TREATING IT, AND THEN WE'RE PUMPING IT DOWN DEEP WELL, INJECTIONS IN THE. SOMEHOW I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY WITH WHICH WE CAN EXPAND THE USE OF THIS WATER BACK OUT INTO THE CITY INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, WELL, IT'S GREAT WHEN WE HAD THE GOLF COURSE, WE HAD A PLACE TO PUT IT. THAT'S WHERE MOST OF IT WAS GOING TO. WELL, NOW ALL WE'RE DOING IS TREATING THIS WATER AND PUMPING IT DOWN A DEEP WELL, INJECTION NEVER TO BE RECOVERED. YET WE'RE STILL CHARGING A FEE FOR THE FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ABLE TO OBTAIN IT. THERE NEEDS TO BE A MECHANISM BY WHICH WE CAN EXPAND, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE COLLECTING A FEE. THAT'S WHAT THIS FEE SHOULD GO TO, IS FOR THE ABILITY TO EXPAND THAT PROCESS TO WHERE IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. SO FIND A WAY. MAYBE WE CAN DESIGNATE THAT FEE TO EXPANSION OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS TO GET TO GET IT TO MORE PEOPLE, INSTEAD OF AUTOMATICALLY DOWN A DEEP WELL AND GONE FOREVER. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I'M I AGREE WITH THAT. AND THAT THAT SHOULD BE THE PURPOSE. AND IT'D BE GREAT TO HAVE A GOLF COURSE TO DO IT TOO. SO, MADAM SHERMAN, I WAS GOING TO SAY I AGREE ALSO. I MEAN, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE OF, BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT CURRENTLY IN A POSITION TO DO THAT. RIGHT. BUT HIS IDEA IS TO EXPAND THAT. SO I'D LIKE TO CAN. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO TALK TO GABRIEL. SURE. GABRIEL. GABRIEL CAN TALK ABOUT IT? YES. YEAH. BECAUSE HE'S HE'S COME IN AND HE'S ALREADY THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE AS WELL. SO. ABSOLUTELY. AND WHEREVER AS WE'RE PUTTING IN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, WORKING WITH CONTRACTORS AND THOSE TO BEGIN TO INSTALL THOSE, ESPECIALLY AS WE SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET OUT OF THE NEW ROOF IN THE SOUTH. JUST TODAY ON A CALL, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE THE NORTH ROOF. WE ARE DISTRIBUTED ABOUT 800,000 GALLONS A DAY FROM THAT ROOF TO FOR PEOPLE TO USE FOR IRRIGATION. SO IT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF GALLONS THAT WE'RE DOING EACH DAY. BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY LIKE TO EXPAND THAT. AND WITH THESE, YOU KNOW, THE COMMENT WAS THESE FEES MAY NOT SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF EXPANSION. BUT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO INCREASE THAT EXPANSION SHOULD BE ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. YES. THAT, ALONG WITH TRYING TO EXPAND WATER AND WASTEWATER FOR SCATTER LOTS AS WELL. SIR. YES, SIR. SO YOU GOT THAT ON THE HORIZON? IT IS NOW. YES, SIR. MAYOR, IF I MAY. GO AHEAD SIR. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. DO WE HAVE. I KNOW WE HAVE QUITE A FEW SUBDIVISIONS ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, RECENT FIVE YEARS OR SO. WE HAVE A FEW THAT CAME. DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY THAT ARE HAVING ACCESS TO OUR WASTEWATER? I KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, MY COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE, I DON'T THINK WE SUPPLY THEM. I THINK THEIR WATER IS PROBABLY RECYCLED FROM FROM THE POND AND ON SITE. DO WE HAVE OR IF NOT, IF WE DO OR WHETHER WE DON'T, SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, MAYBE START THERE AND CREATE SOME SORT OF INCENTIVE, OR MAYBE TO ENTICE THEM MORE COMMUNITY SUBDIVISION TO, TO TAP INTO. YEAH. AND THE EXACT CUSTOMER COUNT. I COULDN'T TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD FOR RECLAIM. BUT AS NEW NEW COMMUNITIES ARE BEING DEVELOPED, THAT WOULD BE THE OPTIMAL TIME TO INCLUDE IRRIGATION WATER FROM THE REUSE. THAT MAY BE MORE OF A GROWTH MANAGEMENT. DEFINITELY AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM TO TO MAXIMIZE THE REUSE. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER. [00:55:02] I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE JUST SAYING IT, BUT WE WERE JUST SAYING THE SAME THING. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO I THINK HE'S GOT HIS MARCHING ORDERS AS WELL. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. I AND SIR, WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU. ANY ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN. SURE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 52. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE FINAL BUDGET AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS FINAL READING ON THE ACTUAL ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET. SO IT'S THE LAST ACTION OF THE NIGHT. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. SIR. STATE YOUR NAME. IS THERE A GA 1680 MAIN STREET ARTIST? PALM BAY. I GOT A COUPLE QUESTION HERE. I KNOW OUR NEW PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 25. IT'S IT'S STATED CLEARLY THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURE AND IT SAYS 13.5%. WHAT I SEE ON THE SAME PAGE, IT SAYS THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT TAKES 28.4%. SO IT'S KIND OF CONFUSING TO ME ON THAT PAGE BECAUSE IT'S STATED ON TOP THAT THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE LARGEST EXPENDITURE, AND IT'S ONLY 13.4%. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I INTERPRET IT WRONG OR IT WAS OVERLOOKED. THE SECOND THING IS I JUST KIND OF CURIOUS WHY OUR UTILITY DEPARTMENT TAKE 28.4% OF THE IN THE YEAR 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET, AND LAST YEAR IT ONLY TOOK 14%. YOU KNOW WHAT THE REASON FOR IT TO, YOU KNOW, EXCEL THAT MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. PERHAPS I CAN HAVE MR. GARY SHARE THAT WITH OUR FINANCE TEAM. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT. BUT WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR HIM. DO YOU HAVE SOME? OKAY. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? THE ONLY, ONLY ADDITION, SIR. JUST WE WE WERE BLESSED WITH NOT RECEIVING THAT HURRICANE, YOU KNOW? SO. YEAH, WE ARE TRULY BLESSED. THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN US. SO LET'S JUST, YOU KNOW, STAY WHAT WE SAY. STAY ALERT, STAY ALIVE. SO STAY PREPARED. BUT THIS THIS ECONOMY THIS YEAR IS, IS GIVING ME 2007 VIBES. SO WE GOT TO WE MAY HAVE TO MAKE SOME CUTS IN THE FUTURE. SO I JUST WANT US TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WELL. SO. WELL, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THAT, THAT THAT HURRICANE, THAT DEVASTATION CAN CRIPPLE A COMMUNITY, AS YOU SAW EVEN EVEN TAMPA. RIGHT. AND SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TAMPA, SAINT PETERSBURG, THAT WHOLE WEST COAST AREA WAS PRETTY MUCH DECIMATED, AND THAT STORM WAS OVER 300 MILES AWAY. AND SO THAT JUST GIVES YOU THE INDICATION OF THE GRAVITY OF THAT HUGE STORM. AND AND THAT WAS THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A CONCERN AS WHEN WE ADOPTED THE MILLAGE RATE AT THAT TIME. IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER WE WERE FEELING COMFORTABLE THAT WE WEREN'T GOING TO. AND I THANK GOD THAT WE WEREN'T AFFECTED. BUT, YOU KNOW, MY HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THOSE COMMUNITIES, AND AND I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU SPOKE ABOUT OR YOU GOT THE EMAIL FROM OUR SPACE COAST LEAGUE OF CITIES AND SEE HOW WE COULD COLLABORATE AND SEE HOW WE COULD HELP OUR NEIGHBORS UP NORTH, THAT THEY WILL PARTNER WITH US IN, IN SENDING SOME OF THOSE RESOURCES. SO I WANT TO AND I PASS THAT INFORMATION ON TO OUR CITY MANAGER TO SEE WHERE WE COULD HELP OUR OUR SISTER [01:00:06] CITIES UP THERE AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'D LIKE TO JUST OFFER THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, WE WE WE ARE TRULY BLESSED. BUT WE'RE IN A POSITION THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP SOMEONE. AND AND IN THAT TIME OF NEED, WE WOULD WANT SOMEONE TO HELP US AS WELL. SO I WOULD. MADAM SHERMAN, I KNOW I SENT YOU THAT. DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANY COMMENTS TO THAT? WELL, I JUST I DID SEND THAT TO THE TEAM. SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK AND I JUST IF WE HAVE THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HELP. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. PASSES FOUR ZERO. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'VE JUST ADOPTED AND PASSED THE BUDGET. CONGRATULATIONS THAT WE DID SURVIVE THAT. THAT WINDY, WINDY, WINDY DAY. I WILL SAY THAT TITUSVILLE DID CONTINUE WITH THEIR THEIR BUDGET HEARING ON DURING THE HURRICANE. BUT WE WANTED TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO COME OUT WHEN IT WASN'T A HURRICANE. THAT BEING SAID, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. CONGRATULATIONS. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.