BEING HERE. OKAY, IT IS [00:00:09] 1800 HOURS. [CALL TO ORDER:] I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 20 2427 TO ORDER. THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY JOSEPH ONE FROM TRINITY HAITIAN BAPTIST CHURCH. PAY ATTENTION TO DETAIL. WE'VE CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER. JOSEPH, ONE OF TRINITY. COME ON OVER, SIR. WE'LL FROM THE TRINITY HAITIAN BAPTIST CHURCH. HE'LL PROVIDE THE INVOCATION. AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. PLEASE RISE. AS EVERYBODY BOW YOUR HEAD. HEAVENLY FATHER, IT'S A PRIVILEGE THAT WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON. TO BRING THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND WE'RE GLAD WE HAVE SUCH A LEADER. LEADERS THAT BELIEVE IN YOU, THAT RECOGNIZE THAT WITHOUT YOU, THEY COULDN'T. THEY CANNOT DO THE WORK THAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING. BUT WHEN YOU'RE WITH THEM. YOU LEAD THEM. YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM AND INTELLIGENCE. THEY WILL LEAD OUR CITY IN THE WAY THAT IT SHOULD BE LEAD. AND, FATHER, IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A ELECTION. WE ASK YOU THAT TO BLESS OUR CITY. GIVE US A NICE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WILL LEAD A CITY THAT ACCORDING THE WAY IT SHOULD BE LEADS. AND ALSO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A STATE ELECTION AS WELL AS A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. FATHER, YOU KNOW THAT THIS YEAR WE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE EITHER A MALE OR FEMALE FOR MOTHER OR FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY FOR FOUR YEARS. WE ASK THAT YOU MAKE HIM UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU PUT HIM AS A LEADER TO LEAD A COUNTRY. WE ASK THAT YOU WANT HIM TO LEAD A COUNTRY LIKE A MOTHER OR LIKE A FATHER. TO LOVE THIS COUNTRY AND TO LOVE THE PEOPLE. WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THE CITY OF PALM BAY, EACH AND EVERYONE THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, BLESS THEM. LIKE I SAY, GIVE THEM MORE WISDOM AND INTELLIGENCE THAT THEY CAN LEAD OUR CITY. WE ASK YOU ALL THIS IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AMEN, AMEN, AMEN. PLEASE FACE THE FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! MRS. JONES. ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX HERE. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS RUNNING LATE. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG HERE. MISS SHERMAN HERE. MISS SMITH HERE. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. ANNOUNCEMENTS. THANK YOU. MAYOR. [ANNOUNCEMENTS:] THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTED LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITION. ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. REPRESENT BANKING INDUSTRY POSITION ONE VACANCY ON THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN CONTROL DISTRICT. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY AT PALM BAY. FLORIDA.ORG, OR CAN CONTACT THE CITY CLERK AT (321) 952-3414. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. WE'RE NOW ON AGENDA REVISIONS. [AGENDA REVISIONS:] MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. FIRST, THE APPLICANTS FOR ITEMS TWO, THREE, FOUR AND SIX UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS. THAT'S TWO, THREE, FOUR AND SIX UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE REQUESTING THAT THE ITEMS BE CONTINUED TO THE NOVEMBER 7TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. ALSO, ITEM 11 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS IS REQUESTED TO BE CONTINUED TO THE DECEMBER 5TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. OKAY, SO WE HAVE TWO, THREE, FOUR AND SIX. AND ITEM 11 IS TO FOR DECEMBER. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY, TEAM, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES THREE ZERO. SO INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE HERE FOR ITEMS TWO, THREE, FOUR AND SIX ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT'S MOVED TO [00:05:09] NOVEMBER 7TH. AND THEN ITEM 11 HAS BEEN MOVED TO DECEMBER 5TH. CARRY ON MA'AM. THANK YOU SIR. STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS BE CONSIDERED AT THE END OF PROCLAMATIONS. SO THAT'S THE ITEM FOR MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT RECIPIENT MARKS AUTO AND TIRE CENTER, MOVING IT BASICALLY FROM PROCLAMATION NUMBER ONE TO BE IN POSITION NUMBER THREE UNDER PROCLAMATIONS, JUST FOR TIMING FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER. AND LASTLY, ITEM NUMBER TEN, UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, I'M REQUESTING THAT IT BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT AND CONSIDERED AT THE END OF NEW BUSINESS. AND MAYOR, I DO HAVE A REQUEST AS WELL. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER TEN BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT. YES, SIR. MOVED ON TO NEW BUSINESS. YES, SIR. SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. NEW BUSINESS. BECOME NEW BUSINESS. NUMBER TWO. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I NEED A MOTION. OR DID YOU WANT TO INCLUDE SOMETHING ALSO IN THE. YES, SIR. ON BEHALF OF COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, HE IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS BE MOVED UP ON THE AGENDA. OKAY. HE DID NOT SAY SPECIFICALLY WHERE, BUT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ANYWHERE IN. NUMBER NUMBER ONE ON WHAT NEW BUSINESS? NUMBER ONE. WHAT ITEM? ITEM. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE. AFTER PROCLAMATIONS. BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS OR AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. SO. YOU WANT NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS OR BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS. AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. MADAM SMITH OR MADAM SMITH. ANY REVISIONS? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO AGAIN, I WANTED TO CLARIFY ITEMS THREE, FOUR AND SIX AND AND 11 HAVE BEEN MOVED. THREE, FOUR, SIX TO NOVEMBER, ITEM NUMBER 11 TO DECEMBER UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS. [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:] AND WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH ACCORDING TO MADAM SHERMAN, WE'RE GOING TO SAVE NUMBER ONE TO BE THE LAST ONE, WHICH IS THE MAYOR SPOTLIGHT. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO. MENTION. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU KEEPING SCORE AT HOME, WE'VE SWITCHED A LOT OF THINGS AROUND. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE BASEBALL. CAN'T TELL THE PLAYERS WITHOUT A SCORECARD. YES, SIR. THE YANKEES ARE PLAYING. YOU KEEP ME UP TO DATE, SIR. TODAY IS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK. ACTUALLY, IT STARTS ON MONDAY, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS COME ON UP FRONT AND CENTER. WHOO! ALL RIGHT. WAY TO BE JOHNNY ON THE SPOT. YOU GUYS GETTING UP HERE? ARE YOU OKAY? YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW. COME ON UP. THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE UP HERE FOR EVERYONE. DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE CHIEF ALSO. TO COME UP. OH, YEAH. SO EVERYONE COME ON UP. ALL STAFF. OKAY. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT IS THE GOVERNMENT CLOSEST TO TO MOST CITIZENS AND THE ONE WITH THE MOST DIRECT DAILY IMPACT UPON ITS RESIDENTS. [00:10:09] AND WHEREAS MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT PROVIDES SERVICES AND PROGRAMS THAT ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OUR RESIDENTS, MAKING THEIR CITY THEIR HOME. AND WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT IS ADMINISTERED FOR AND BY ITS CITIZENS AND IS DEPENDENT UPON PUBLIC COMMENT TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF ITS MANY RESPONSIBILITIES. AND WHEREAS CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS EMPLOYEES SHARE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PASS ALONG THE UNDERSTANDING OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND THEIR BENEFITS. AND WHEREAS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK OFFERS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CITY STAFF TO SPREAD THE WORD TO ALL CITIZENS OF FLORIDA THAT THEY CAN SHAPE AND INFLUENCE THEIR BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON MEDINA, MAYOR, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. COME ON NOW. YEAH. BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF OCTOBER 21ST THROUGH 27TH AS FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS, CITY GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES TO PARTICIPATE IN EVENTS THAT RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE FLORIDA CITY GOVERNMENT WEEK AND WITNESS HEREOF. I SET MY HAND AND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 17TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2024. MADAM SHERMAN, YOU RECEIVED THIS. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. OUR CITY MANAGER, SUZANNE SHERMAN. JUST ON BEHALF OF THE CITY STAFF, MANY OF WHOM ARE HERE TODAY. I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO SERVE THIS CITY. WE THANK COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THEY GIVE US, AND THEY ENTRUST THESE MEMBERS. AND WE'RE OVER A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, AS A CITY TEAM WORKING HARD FOR YOU EVERY DAY. AND IT'S A IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY THE WAY THAT WE DO EVERY DAY. AND I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE WITH ME, INCLUDING MANY WHO WORKED MANY, MANY HOURS IN THE IMPENDING STORM LAST WEEK AND THEN THROUGH THE STORM THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD HOW THINGS WOULD TURN OUT. BUT THEY WERE HERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT, PREPARING AND SERVING THE CITY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD A CHOICE, THEY HAD A CHOICE TO GO PRIVATE SECTOR OR PUBLIC SECTOR. THEY DECIDED TO WORK FOR THE CITY AND THEY'VE PROVEN THEIR DEDICATION TIME AND TIME AGAIN. AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU WHO CHOOSE TO COME AND BE ENGAGED WITH YOUR YOUR GOVERNMENT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO. MANY OF YOU ARE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND MANY OF YOU SERVE ON BOARDS, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DO TO SERVE OUR CITY. IT'S WHAT MAKES US SPECIAL AND UNIQUE, I THINK. SO, THANK YOU SIR, I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT THE LEADERSHIP THAT YOU PROVIDED DURING THE STORM. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I KNOW MANY OF YOU AREN'T AWARE, BUT BEHIND THE SCENES, I WAS ABLE TO WITNESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS TIME AND TIME AGAIN THROUGH GO THROUGH BRIEFINGS AND PREPARING FOR THE IMPENDING STORM. EVEN OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT WAS OUT WORKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT DURING THE STORM TO TO ADDRESS A DEVASTATING ISSUE THAT WE HAD. YOU PROBABLY READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEWSPAPERS, BUT YOUR LEADERSHIP WAS IMPECCABLE, MAN. AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN UNDER GREAT LEADERSHIP AND YOU ARE AN OUTSTANDING CITY MANAGER, AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, EACH AND EVERY DIRECTOR, EACH AND EVERY EMPLOYEE, THEY DEMONSTRATED A PASSION BEYOND DESCRIPTION. THEY TRULY CARE ABOUT THEIR CITY AND ABOUT OUR CITIZENS. AND WE ARE TRULY BLESSED TO HAVE THIS LEADERSHIP AND THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT CARE SO MUCH. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. I'M GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE. COME ON GUYS, LET'S GET CLOSE TOGETHER. YES. LET'S ALL. HEY, COUNCIL, YOU WANT TO COME DOWN HERE? COME ON DOWN. LET'S ALL PRETEND WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER FOR THE PICTURE. JUST. JUST A SECOND. JUST A SECOND. IT'S JUST A FIGURE OF SPEECH. I KNOW WE GOT LOVE FOR EACH OTHER. GLORY TO GOD. GLORY TO GOD IF YOU FEEL IT. GLORY TO GOD. COME ON OVER, GUYS. COME ON UP. LET'S COME ON UP. FOLLOW ME. THIS IS GOOD. YOU KNOW. I KNOW YOU TOOK MY SON. YEAH. ARE WE READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU. [00:15:03] THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU. JESUS. YEAH. I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING AT YOU. I'M TELLING YOU. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I JUST I GOT A LOT ON MY PLATE, BUT I HAVE TO BE HONEST. THAT'S RIGHT. YES, SIR. BUT WE'RE GOOD. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, YOU, SIR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M HONORED TO. TO LEAD YOU IN IN THIS PROCLAMATION. I'M GOING TO CALL CLAIRE. CLAIRE, COME ON UP HERE. AND AND HER HUSBAND. BUT WE'RE CELEBRATING NATIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH. AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SHARE THAT MESSAGE. I WAS GOING TO SAY MASTER SERGEANT, BUT MASTER CHIEF BILL BRATTON HAS ALWAYS PUT US ON NOTICE. WHY AREN'T WE CELEBRATING NATIVE AMERICANS? WELL, MASTER CHIEF, WE'RE CELEBRATING NATIVE AMERICANS. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING OUR FEET TO THE FIRE. WHEREAS DURING NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH, WE CELEBRATE THE STORIED LEGACIES OF AMERICAN INDIANS AND ALASKA NATIVES IN OUR NATION, THEIR CHERISHED LEGACY, RICH CULTURES, AND HEROIC HISTORY OF MILITARY SERVICE. WHEREAS NATIVE AMERICANS NATIVE AMERICAN AWARENESS WEEK BEGAN IN 1976, AND RECOGNITION WAS EXPANDED BY PRESIDENT GEORGE H.W. BUSH IN AUGUST OF 1990, DESIGNATING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS NATIONAL AMERICAN INDIAN HERITAGE MONTH. WHEREAS FLORIDA CONSULTS WITH SIX FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBES AFFILIATED WITH FLORIDA THE MUSKOGEE TRIBE OF INDIANS OF FLORIDA, THE MISSISSIPPI BAND OF CHOCTAW INDIANS, THE MUSKOGEE CREEK INDIANS, THE PORCH BAND OF CREEK INDIANS, THE SEMINOLE NATION OF OKLAHOMA, AND THE SEMINOLE TRIBE OF FLORIDA. AND WHEREAS, DURING WORLD WAR TWO, SKILLED NATIVE AMERICANS THAT WERE UNITED STATES MARINES JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT KNOWN AS THE CODE TALKERS, USED THE NAVAJO LANGUAGE TO TRANSMIT TOP SECRET INFORMATION TO ALLIED FORCES, AND NATIVE AMERICANS CONTINUE TO SERVE IN THE ARMED FORCES WITH DISTINGUISHED COMMITMENT AND VALOR IN DEFENSE OF OUR NATION. AND WHEREAS APPROXIMATELY 60% OF WHAT WE EAT TODAY WAS ORIGINALLY DOMESTICATED BY NATIVE AMERICANS. NOW, THEREFORE, I, ROBERT MEDINA, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AS NATIONAL NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS A TIME TO CELEBRATE THE CULTURAL TRADITIONS, THE PROUD ANCESTRY OF NATIVE AMERICANS, AND RECOGNIZE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR NATION'S AND WITNESS HEREOF. I SET MY RIGHT HAND. I SAY MY RIGHT HAND, BUT IT'S MY HAND, AND AFFIX THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY THIS 17TH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2024. CONGRATULATIONS, CLAIRE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT. AND I THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE A LITTLE RHYTHM WITH US AS WELL TO KEEP UP WITH THE TRADITION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I'LL LIKE SINCE YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE MILITARY AND NATIVE AMERICANS. I'D LIKE TO ADD THAT THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT'S THAT THEY'VE EXPERIENCED, THEY'RE THE NUMBER ONE ETHNICITY FOR REGISTERING IN THE ARMED FORCES TODAY FOR ENLISTING IN THE ARMED FORCES. THIS IS A SAMPLE NATIVE AMERICAN FLUTE. THIS IS MY HUSBAND, JOHN. HE MAKES FLUTES. AND YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF FLUTE MAKERS. THIS IS THE NATIVE AMERICAN FLUTE. YOU'LL HEAR A LOT OF THIS BEAUTIFUL MUSIC AT OUR EVENT ON NOVEMBER 8TH THROUGH 10TH AT WICKHAM PARK AT THE AMPHITHEATER. IT'S FREE TO EVERYONE. IT'S FAMILY FRIENDLY AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO A NATIVE AMERICAN. A FAMILY FRIENDLY EVENT MEANS ALCOHOL FREE. SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO BRING CHILDREN YOUR FAMILY. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE TOP PERFORMERS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, THREE FREE WORKSHOPS. A NATIVE VILLAGE NATIVE CRAFTED VENDORS THEIR JURIED SO IT'S NOVEMBER 8TH, NINTH AND 10TH ALL DAY INTO THE EVENING AND JUST BRING A COUPLE LAWN CHAIRS OR A BLANKET AND YOUR FAMILY AND COME AND ENJOY A BEAUTIFUL EVENT. THIS IS OUR 16TH YEAR, AND WE JUST WANT MORE AND MORE PEOPLE TO COME AND BE AWARE OF THIS BEAUTIFUL EVENT. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR MEDINA, FOR LETTING US BRING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THIS BEAUTIFUL EVENT AND FOR THE PROCLAMATION. [00:20:04] I THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. KEEP IT UP. THIS EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IN THIS BEAUTIFUL. LISTEN TO THE RHYTHM. GO AHEAD, BROTHER. RUNNING. COME ON. THANK. YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. WE HOPE TO SEE YOU. COME ON. SOMEBODY, PLEASE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WASN'T THAT WONDERFUL? I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT FLUTE JUST MADE ME FEEL A LITTLE BIT AT PEACE. WELL, THANKS FOR AGREEING WITH ME. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT HIGHLIGHTING BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT. AND WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE OUR. THIS QUARTER'S RECIPIENT. MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER. MARK, COME ON UP. BRING YOUR ENTIRE TEAM THAT'S HERE. REALLY EXCITED FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THE JOBS YOU CREATE IN OUR CITY. SO COME ON OVER HERE. ALRIGHT, GUYS. WAY TO GET HERE. AWESOME. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAD A LONG DAY BECAUSE YOU START, LIKE, AT ZERO 700 HOURS, RIGHT? SO I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS QUICK. IT IS HEREBY. IT'S THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM. IT IS HEREBY RECOGNIZED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER IS RECOGNIZED AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM RECIPIENT FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR 2024. WHEREAS, MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER, LOCATED AT 6351 MITTEN ROAD, WHERE IS IT? 6351 MINT ROAD. JUST RIGHT UP THE STREET HERE. JUST IT'S A PLUG, RIGHT? HAS BEEN A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED ESTABLISHED BUSINESS IN PALM BAY SINCE 2018. AND WHEREAS MARK'S AUTO ENTIRE CENTER IS LOCALLY OWNED AUTOMOTIVE SERVICES OFFERING THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF AUTOMOTIVE PARTS AND VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FOR ALL PALM BAY RESIDENTS. WHEREAS MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER HAS SHOWN BUSINESS GROWTH SINCE OPENING ITS FIRST ESTABLISHMENT OF OIL AND LUBE IN 2005. SO THAT OIL AND LUBE THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO MARK'S IS HIS AS WELL. THIS HAS NOT ONLY EXPANDED THEIR PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT, BUT ALSO JOB CREATION WHERE THEY HAVE DOUBLED THEIR EMPLOYMENT. THIS SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IS A TRUE TESTAMENT TO THEIR CUSTOMER BASE AND THEIR INVESTMENT IN OUR RESIDENTS AND THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY. WHEREAS MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER IS A SERVANT TO THE COMMUNITY BY THE DEMONSTRATION OF GOOD CORPORATE CITIZENSHIP, THEY OFTEN HONOR VETERANS AND MILITARY AND MILITARY SERVICE MEMBERS THROUGH PUBLIC TRIBUTES AND PRIORITIZE FAMILY FIRST FOR THEIR EMPLOYMENT. THEIR EMPLOYEES BY ADJUSTING THEIR BUSINESS HOURS AROUND THE HOLIDAYS. WHEREAS MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER MAINTAINS A HIGH RATINGS ACROSS VARIOUS PLATFORMS SUCH AS THE YELLOW PAGES. YOU KNOW, THAT'S SURPRISING. I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE YELLOW PAGES STILL EXISTED. I KNOW YOU KNOW FACEBOOK THE BEST. YEAH, IT'S ALL GOOGLE NOW, RIGHT? BEST PROSE IN TOWN. THESE HIGH RATINGS ARE ATTRIBUTED TO THEIR DEDICATION TO CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO OFFERING THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF WORK. WHEREAS MARC'S AUTO TIRE CENTER IS INNOVATIVE THROUGH ITS CUSTOMER SERVICE APPROACH, BY EMPHASIZING CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT COMMUNICATION WITH ITS CUSTOMERS TO BUILD TRUST AND A POSITIVE RAPPORT WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE MARKS AUTO AND TIRE CENTER. IS THIS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? THEY ARE THE RECIPIENT OF THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE YEAR FOR 2024. [00:25:04] AS THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT PROGRAM AND WITNESS HEREOF, I SEND MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS 17TH DAY OF OCTOBER 2024. CONGRATULATIONS, MARK. NO. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO TURN OVER THE MIC TO HIM. BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT YOU KNOW THIS BUSINESS, TO GAIN TRUST OF YOUR CUSTOMER, OF ALL CUSTOMERS IS IS REALLY A DIFFICULT ISSUE TO TO OBTAIN, RIGHT? A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THEIR MECHANIC. THEY FIND A GOOD MECHANIC. THEY STICK WITH THEM. SO I SURVEYED MARK'S CUSTOMERS AND I WENT THERE EARLY ONE MORNING, AND THE LOBBY WAS PRETTY FULL. AND THE CUSTOMERS THAT HE HAD ARE FAITHFUL CUSTOMERS. CUSTOMERS THAT TRUST HIS WORK, TRUST HIS EMPLOYEES. AND I WAS HONORED THAT HE EARNED THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS SPOTLIGHT. MARK. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY FILLED WITH GRATITUDE AND PRIDE AS I REFLECT ON THE JOURNEY OF OIL LUBE EXPRESS AND MARK'S AUTO AND TIRE CENTER. SINCE OPENING OUR DOORS IN AUGUST OF 2005, WHAT STARTED AS A SMALL VENTURE WITH JUST FOUR EMPLOYEES HAS GROWN INTO A THRIVING BUSINESS THAT NOW EMPLOYS NEARLY 30 DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO EXPRESS MY HEARTFELT THANKS. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR OF PALM BAY FOR PREVENTING, PREVENTING, PREVENTING ME WITH THIS AWARD, PREVENTING ME IF I CAN GET IT OUT. IT'S TRULY AN HONOR, AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS SUPPORTED US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. TO MY WIFE AND FAMILY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGEMENT. YOUR BELIEF IN ME AND OUR VISION HAS BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF OUR SUCCESS. TO MY INCREDIBLE TEAM. EXCELLENT JOB GUYS. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT TO PROVIDING EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE. YOUR DEDICATION NOT ONLY DRIVES OUR BUSINESS FORWARD, BUT ALSO CREATES AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE OUR CUSTOMERS FEEL VALUED AND APPRECIATED AND OF COURSE, TO OUR LOYAL CUSTOMERS. THANK YOU FOR CHOOSING US. YOUR TRUST IN OUR SERVICES IS WHAT MAKES OUR WORK MEANINGFUL. WE TRY. WE STRIVE TO PROVIDE HONEST, RELIABLE SERVICE AT REASONABLE PRICES, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO ENSURING THAT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH US IS ALWAYS POSITIVE AS WE LOOK TO THE FUTURE. MY GOAL IS TO CONTINUE GROWING IN PALM BAY, TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, AND TO MAINTAIN THE STANDARD OF EXCELLENCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE COME TO EXPECT FROM US. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THIS RECOGNITION AND FOR BEING A PART OF OUR JOURNEY. HERE'S TO MANY MORE YEARS OF SUCCESS TOGETHER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OH MY GOD. EVERYBODY SHOULD BE IN THE PICTURE. NO DON'T HIDE, DON'T HIDE. DON'T MATTER. WE ALL CALL YOU OUT. DON'T TRY TO TONIGHT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE READY. ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL SEE YOU. YEAH. THANKS. OKAY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'LL START WITH MR. BILL BARTON. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST, 18 DAYS. IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, GO VOTE. HOPEFULLY YOUR CANDIDATE WILL PREVAIL AND IF NOT, BE PROUD OF YOUR ACTION. RIGHT. LET US NOT LOSE. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, BILL. HOLD ON. SIR. WE'RE HAVING A MEETING. YEAH. OKAY. LET US NOT NOT LOSE WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, GOVERNED BY THE CONSTITUTION. USA. USA. USA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT COMMENT SIR. MR. REDMOND. GOOD EVENING, MR. [00:30:09] MAYOR. COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF OF POLICE. I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR HELPING ME EASE SOME OF MY CONCERNS CONCERNING SENATE BILL 1365, WHICH IS THE NEW LAW CONCERNING THE HOMELESS. THOSE OF YOU THAT RESPONDED TO ME AND TALKED WITH ME OVER THIS, I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. SOMEHOW DURING THE LAST MEETING WHEN I SPOKE ON THIS, WE SEEMED TO HAVE GOTTEN OFF TRACK ON THE CONVERSATION. I WANT IT CLEAR THAT WHAT I'M PETITIONING THE COUNCIL TO DO IS TO IMMEDIATELY ESTABLISH A WORKSHOP, NOT TO SOLVE HOMELESSNESS, BUT TO DISCUSS SPECIFIC ITEMS IN HOUSE BILL 1365 AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO HANDLE THEM. THIS LAW WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR IN MARCH, AND SINCE THEN I'VE BEEN EMAILING EVERYBODY AND TRYING TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED. I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A MILLION OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO, AND AND THIS IS PROBABLY NOT HIGH ON A PRIORITY COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE HAPPEN WITH THE, THE FLOOD AND OTHER THINGS OF THE SEWAGE. I WILL JUST SIMPLY SAY THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE DECIDED BY ANYBODY EXCEPT THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY. AND THAT'S THE REASON I'M ASKING FOR THE WORKSHOP. THIS LAW, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, REQUIRES THE CITY TO RESPOND WITHIN FIVE DAYS TO ANY COMPLAINT OR TO BE SUBJECT TO A LAWSUIT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. AND IF WE HAVE DECIDED WHO'S TAKING THOSE COMPLAINTS, WHO'S GOING TO BE NOTIFIED OF THOSE COMPLAINTS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRACK THOSE COMPLAINTS? THAT'S ONE OF MY CONCERNS. MY SECOND CONCERN IS THAT WE HAVE TO DISPATCH POLICE FOR EACH ONE OF THESE COMPLAINTS. I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO DO THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COST US A LOT OF MONEY FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. TIME TO RESPOND TO HOMELESS COMPLAINTS. THERE IS A PROVISION IN THE LAW FOR US TO STATE WE HAVE A FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, BOTH IN THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, TO NOT ESTABLISH AN AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE CONSIDERING THAT OR WHAT THE STATUS OF THAT IS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY INTENDS TO. I DID SPEAK WITH MAYOR MIKE BLAKE, WHO'S THE HEAD OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES TODAY AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE LEAGUE OF CITIES. I APOLOGIZE, AND THERE ARE SOME PLANS FOR HAVING AN AREA, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR ANYBODY ELSE, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT THE SHERIFF IS PRETTY UPSET. UPSET WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ARRESTED SINCE 1ST OCTOBER. AND I'M VERY SURE THAT THE JAILS ARE GOING TO GET FULL BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS POPULATION WE HAVE ALL OVER BREVARD COUNTY. THERE'S NO WAY THE JAIL COULD BE USED FOR THAT PURPOSE. SO TO BE BLUNT, I REALLY THINK ALL OF THESE THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DECIDED LONG BEFORE THE LAW CAME INTO PLACE. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH, AND I REQUEST THAT COUNCIL TONIGHT TAKE A VOTE AND HAVE A WORKSHOP AT THEIR EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. AT OUR LAST DISCUSSION, WOULD YOU LIKE TO BREATHE? YES, SIR. I'LL JUST GIVE VERY HIGH LEVEL, AND THEN I'LL ASK OUR POLICE CHIEF TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR OUR POSITION AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. YEAH. I MEAN, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE WORKSHOP IS FINE. CERTAINLY. BUT WE ARE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD SETTING UP A WORKSHOP BASED ON LAST DISCUSSION FOR A. YEAH. WORKSHOP. EXCUSE ME. IN DECEMBER. KIND OF LIKE BETWEEN THE TWO REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARD, BUT HAPPY TO PIVOT AS YOU ALL DIRECT. SO ESSENTIALLY WHERE WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW IS AND I'LL LET CHIEF TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HIS INITIATIVES. AND HIS RESPONSE IS, WE'RE WE'RE IN ACTIVE CONVERSATIONS, YOU KNOW, TO MR. RUBIN'S POINT WITH BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION, WE'RE HAVING ESSENTIALLY ACTIVE PLANNING MEETINGS WITH THEM. THAT INCLUDES BREVARD COUNTY, INCLUDES OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES BASED ON HOUSE BILL 1365. HOW WE'RE HANDLING THE DAY TO DAY IS WHAT CHIEF WILL SHARE WITH YOU TO GIVE YOU SOME, SOME ASSURANCES OF HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH THEM IN THOSE ISSUES. BUT THERE'S THE DIFFICULTY IS THE CHALLENGE OF FUNDING THE PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO SOLVE AND RESOLVE WITH THE COUNTY'S HELP IS HOW WILL WE GET WHAT THE COUNTY NEEDS, WHICH IS SHELTERING, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS ACTUAL LIKE OVERNIGHT SHELTERS FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED IT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YET THAT THERE'S A REALLY GOOD PATH FORWARD FOR ANY OF US TO DO. I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS WITH WITH ME ON THAT BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION TASK FORCE. SO WE'VE BEEN KIND OF LEARNING AND TALKING, AND WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING, I THINK NEXT WEEK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. BUT I'LL LET CHIEF ACTUALLY JUST SHARE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SIR. SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. AND THEN I'LL ADD TO THAT. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. YES. SO MADAM SHERMAN MENTIONED IT. SO OUR STANCE AS THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WITH HOUSE BILL, VERY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT IT STATES, AS MR. [00:35:05] REDMOND MENTIONED, 13 BILL 1365. WE'RE STILL TREATING OUR OUR FOLKS HERE WITHIN PALM BAY, OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY WITH A LEVEL OF RESPECT THAT THEY DESERVE. AND HUMILITY AND SOME DIGNITY. SO WE ALSO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WITH OUR BUSINESSES HERE. SO OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHEN WE DO RECEIVE CALLS FOR SERVICE WITH FOLKS THAT ARE ON THEIR PROPERTY, PRIVATE PROPERTY OR IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES, WE DON'T JUST GO OUT THERE AND SCOOP THEM UP, YOU KNOW? SO WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, WITH THE SHERIFF, WITH OTHER CHIEFS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY TO AS MR. REDMOND IS STATED EARLIER, WE NEED SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE MOVING INTO THE, MOVING FORWARD FOR FOR THAT COMMUNITY. SO WE DO OFFER ASSISTANCE. WE GO IN, WE MEET WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS WE TELL THEM, LISTEN, BUSINESS OWNERS DON'T WANT YOU HERE. WE DO HAVE SOME RESOURCES THAT WE CAN HELP THEM OUT WITH. SOME TAKE THEM, SOME DON'T. SOME THE ONES THAT DON'T. THEY LEAVE. THEY MOVE. THEY RELOCATE ELSEWHERE. OUR TO EFFECT AN ARREST IS OUR LAST OPTION. BUT IN DOING SO, WE'RE ENGAGING WITH THESE FOLKS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS TO ENSURE THAT. LET'S TRY TO HELP THEM. LET'S TRY TO RELOCATE THEM. LET'S TRY TO GET THEM SOME ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE THROUGHOUT THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE THROUGH THE COUNTY. SO THAT PROCESS HASN'T CHANGED. EVEN WITH THE HOUSE BILL, WE'RE STILL STAYING WITHIN THE HOUSE BILL WITH WHAT IT STATES TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE WE ARE NOT VIOLATING THAT OURSELVES AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ENTITY. BUT WE ARE HELPING THAT COMMUNITY OUT. DID I DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY? IS THERE LIKE A TEAM THAT YOU'VE ALREADY COMPOSED WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT? WELL, WE COMPOSED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. IT'S BEEN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION, OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICERS THAT HAS THOSE CONNECTIONS, THAT HAS THE KNOWLEDGE AND CONTACT INFORMATION WITH OUR RESOURCES, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS OUT COMMUNICATING WITH OUR BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. BUT IT COULD ALSO BE OUR OFFICERS, PATROL OFFICERS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT GET THAT CALL FOR SERVICE. AND THEY'RE THE FIRST ONES TO RESPOND OUT THERE, BUT IT'S THE SAME INITIATIVE. IT'S THE SAME MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? WELL, NOT A QUESTION, CHIEF. YOU'RE ON IT, SIR, AND I APPRECIATE IT. BUT THIS IS MORE JUST A COMMENT FOR EVERYBODY. I FREQUENT A LOT OF THE PARKS WITH MY SON. AND YOU'LL SEE 3 TO 4 TO 5 TO 6 HOMELESS AT EACH PARK. NOW THEY'RE CORDIAL. THEY DON'T BOTHER ANYBODY. BUT I'VE SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES WHERE THEY'RE DRYING THEIR CLOTHES ON THE SWINGS THAT KIDS SWING ON. AND THAT'S A SANITARY ISSUE AT THAT POINT. SO THE REASON WHY I BROUGHT UP THE WORKSHOP, AND I AGREE WITH MR. REDMAN. IT'S NOT FOR YOU TO SOLVE, CHIEF. YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I LIKE I APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP TO BAT, BUT YOU GOT YOUR HANDS FULL ALREADY. AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL THAT THE NON-PROFITS AND THE CHURCHES. IT'S NOT FOR GOVERNMENT TO SOLVE EITHER. WE CAN FACILITATE. THAT'S WHAT WE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF DOING, FACILITATING AND GETTING EVERYBODY INVOLVED, WHETHER THAT'S GETTING THE SOURCE BACK INVOLVED OR TRUTH REVEAL. WITH HCI, WE HAVE ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS, ALL THESE NONPROFITS, THEY NEED TO STEP IT UP. AND THAT'S WHERE WE AS A CITY, WE GAVE MILLIONS OUT DURING COVID THROUGH THE ARPA FUNDING. AND FROM IT. I KNOW DEPUTY MAYOR WOULD AGREE WITH ME ON THAT ONE. LIKE IN REGARDS TO RETURN ON INVESTMENT. IT'S NOT THERE, IT'S NOT THERE. AND THAT'S JUST ME BEING REAL ABOUT IT. BUT IT'S NOT TO BLAME ANYBODY. IT'S JUST I HEAR YOU, MR. REDMAN. I KNOW YOU CAN BE A BULL IN A CHINA SHOP SOMETIMES. I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN CORDIAL AND EVERYTHING, BUT I DO THINK THIS WORKSHOP NEEDS TO BE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. AND WE JUST TRY TO REACH OUT TO ALL THE NONPROFITS AND CHURCHES AND SEE IF THEY'LL BE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THE HOMELESS AND THE NEEDY. AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE BEFORE IT GETS UGLIER. SO THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE CHIEF? THANK YOU CHIEF. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? THANK YOU. PROBABLY AN APPROPRIATE TIME, MAYOR, TO CONSIDER. AND MY POSITION WAS CLEAR ON THAT. AND I AM WITH MR. REDMAN IN TERMS OF TIMING, CONSIDERING THE THE TIMETABLE IN FRONT OF US AND THIS OCTOBER 1ST, THIS THIS LAW IS IN EFFECT AND OR NOVEMBER WILL BE YOU START. WELL, IT'S IT'S ALREADY PASSED. SO. MR.. I MEAN, COUNCILMAN WEINBERG MENTIONED THAT WE SHOULD IT WOULD PROBABLY BE APPROPRIATE TO WAIT FOR NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS TO, TO JOIN. I TEND TO THINK THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THE, THE NEED. BECAUSE REALLY, QUITE HONESTLY, ANY NEW COUNCIL MEMBER THAT JOINED TO POTENTIALLY THREE, WHO KNOWS? WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THEM ALONG BECAUSE THESE ARE THE STAFF, THIS DISCUSSION, WE ARE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. I'D SAY I AGREE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT TILL DECEMBER. LET'S SEE THE POTENTIAL POSSIBILITY TO SCHEDULE SOONER. [00:40:05] I WOULD SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS. CERTAINLY NOT TO FIND THE SOLUTIONS. BUT BUT REALLY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD AND CREATE SOME SORT OF SPACE WHERE WE HAVE SOME CLEAR DIRECTION? AS FAR AS THE CITY IS CONCERNED? OKAY. COUNCILMEMBER WEINBERGER YEAH, THANK YOU. MAYOR. A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS, YOU KNOW, I FULLY SUPPORT HAVING A A SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO DISCUSS THIS, HB 1365 BECAUSE IT HAS SOME SOME SERIOUS RAMIFICATIONS AS FAR AS AS FAR AS WAITING UNTIL THE THE THE NEW COUNCIL IS SEATED. YOU KNOW, WE YOU KNOW, HAVE DISCUSSED WITH, WITH OUR CITY MANAGER SENDING NOTICES TO SOME OF OUR PARTNERS AND NONPROFITS AND CHURCHES AND SO ON TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ABOUT TREATING THE HOMELESS. BUT I THINK OF MORE MEDIA CONCERN IS, IS, IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO DEAL WITH WITH THE HOUSE BILL 1365 AND THEN YOU KNOW, WE CAN WE CAN GET CAUGHT UP WITH THE THE NEW COUNCIL GOING TO GET CAUGHT UP AFTER WE GET RESPONSES FROM THE CHURCHES AND SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN GET TO COME AND TO DISCUSS, YOU KNOW ADDRESSING THE, THE HOMELESS SITUATION AND THE LARGER ISSUE. BUT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH, I THINK, THIS STATE LAW. I SEE THIS, MADAM ATTORNEY I SEE THIS AS HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS, THE LEGALITIES OF THIS AND SO ON. HAVE YOU HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH. BECAUSE HOUSE BILL, THE HOUSE BILL IS ONE THING GOING DOWN THE, THE LANE OF OF DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS ISSUE. I SEE IT KIND OF LIKE TWO, TWO SEPARATE THINGS, RIGHT? AND I'M SEEING THAT THE REACTION IS LIKE, OKAY, GETTING THE EMOTION WITH WITH PUTTING THAT UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA, RIGHT? WHEN IT'S IT'S REALLY THE WAY I SEE IT DIFFERENTLY. BUT, MA'AM CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON HAVE YOU HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE HOUSE BILL WITH, WITH MANAGEMENT AND CHIEF? YES. OKAY. AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? ARE WE ARE WE PUTTING IS IT TWO SEPARATE ISSUES? WOULD YOU WOULD YOU SAY BECAUSE THE WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M AT A LOSS RIGHT. IS I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT. I'M SEEING THIS AS MAYBE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. SO IS THERE THE LEGALITIES OF THIS AND GETTING LIKE HE MENTIONED, THOMAS REDMAN EVEN MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE NOT EVEN DESIGNATED LOCATION BECAUSE OF WHATEVER CRITERIA THE FINANCES. BUT IS THERE A LEGALITY OF THIS, THAT THERE SHOULD BE A PROTOCOL TO THIS? THE PROTOCOL AND CHIEF AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, AND THE PATH THAT WE ARE ON IS AS FAR AS WHAT'S LEGAL AND WHAT THE LAW REQUIRES. AND EVEN WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY IS THE CORRECT ONE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT ARRESTING PEOPLE JUST FOR THEIR STATUS. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE TRY TO FIND RESOURCES FOR THEM. AND WE ALSO RESPECT PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS. YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMEONE THERE AND THEY ARE TRESPASSING WAYS IN WHICH TO GET THEM TO ABIDE BY THOSE PERSONS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY END UP IN AN ARREST. IF THEY'RE WILLING TO COMPLY. AND USUALLY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET COMPLIANCE. SO WE'RE DOING BOTH. AND I THINK THEY KIND OF GO HAND IN HAND IN ORDER TO AVOID WHAT MR. RICKMAN TALKS ABOUT, WHERE YOU'RE JUST ARRESTING PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE HOMELESS. IT IS ABOUT A MATTER OF TRYING TO FIND RESOURCES FOR THEM. AND, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE THAT AND MANY OF THEM WILL ACTUALLY RESPECT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DON'T WANT ME HERE, I'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE SO THAT I COULD FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE. AND SO IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING THOSE RESOURCES SO THAT THE JAIL ISN'T THE DEFAULT PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO GO. YEAH, I SEE THAT. AND THE BREVARD HOUSING COALITION PLAYS A ROLE IN THIS, RIGHT? AREN'T THEY? DON'T THEY BRING FUNDING TO THIS TABLE REGARDING THAT, MADAME SHERMAN? YES. YES, SIR. THEY'RE THE THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR BREVARD COUNTY. SO THEY THEY RECEIVE FUNDS THAT ARE SET ASIDE FROM THE STATE DIRECTLY TO BREVARD COUNTY. THOSE GO TO BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION. AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THE FUND. THEY'RE THE FUNDING AGENCY, ESSENTIALLY. AND THAT'S PART OF WHY THEY REACHED OUT TO THE CITIES AND THE COUNTY TO TO TRY TO SEE WHAT THE BEST OPTIONS WOULD BE WITH THE LIMITED FUNDING THAT THEY GET, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A [00:45:05] HUGE AMOUNT. I THINK THE ESTIMATE THAT I RECEIVED WAS AROUND $400,000 FOR THIS FIRST YEAR AFTER THE STATE, YOU KNOW, MADE THIS A NEW LAW, YOU KNOW, A BIT OF AN UNFUNDED MANDATE OF SORTS. SO, YEAH, BUT THEY HAVE THAT RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR HOMELESSNESS. SO WHAT DO YOU I KNOW YOU MENTIONED AND I'M COMING TO YOU NOW, SIR, BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE YOU WANT TO GO WITH THIS. RIGHT. WHERE DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THIS? BECAUSE HERE'S ANOTHER THING. YOU MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE ARPA FUNDING. NOW, I KNOW THAT VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA, WE PROVIDED FUNDS FOR THEM, AND THEY'RE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT'S CONTRACTUALLY GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THOUSAND DOLLAR APARTMENTS, RIGHT. KEEPING IT LOW FOR WHAT WAS IT, 20 YEARS? 20 YEARS. WE MIGHT HAVE WANTED 30, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY OFFERED, RIGHT? TWO DECADES. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD INVESTMENT. THEN COMMUNITY OF HOPE PROVIDED THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSITION FROM APARTMENT LIFE COUNSELING TO HOME OWNERSHIP. RIGHT. AND THEN WE DID SOME ALSO WITH CATHOLIC CHARITIES. WE DID, BUT WE ALSO DID WITH THE BUILDING OF HOMES FOR IT'S ESCAPING ME. WHERE DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE THEY THEY GET TO OWN THEIR HOME FOR X AMOUNT OF YEARS, RIGHT? BUT THEY. YEAH, IT'S ESCAPING ME. HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. RIGHT. SO THERE WAS THERE WAS I THOUGHT THOSE WERE THE PROGRAMS THAT CAME TO US. SO WE EXECUTED WHAT WAS BEFORE US IN IN A TIMELY WAY RIGHT NOW, COULD, IF WE WANTED MORE. ABSOLUTELY. YOU ALWAYS WANT MORE, RIGHT? BUT I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PRETTY GOOD DIVERSE POPULATION WHERE WE WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, WE WE EXECUTED WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE US. RIGHT. I AGREE WE COULD HAVE WANTED MORE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WAS BEFORE. SO USING THAT AS A TEMPLATE. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. WHAT IS IT THAT YOU SEE BEFORE US? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WANT TO SEE? BECAUSE LIKE, I THINK THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OPIOID, RIGHT. THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THIS IS IT JUST BLENDS TOGETHER. YOU'LL ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THOSE. IT'S THREE COMPONENTS RIGHT. YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THOSE THAT WANT TO REMAIN ON THE GROUND. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT. THEY DON'T WANT HELP, BUT YOU ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE THERE'S A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THAT. AND THERE'S ALSO THE COMPONENT WHERE PEOPLE NEED A HAND UP AND THAT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TARGETING TO. YES, SIR. TO TO AGREE ALL AND TRY TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED A HAND UP. RIGHT. SO I SEE THAT. BUT WHAT IS IT THAT YOU ENVISION ON ON WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO IN THIS WORKSHOP. WELL, AND AND THAT'S THE THING THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE THE MAIN REASON WHY I WOULD LIKE THE WORKSHOP. BECAUSE WE ONLY HAD WHAT WE HAD IN FRONT OF US. SO THAT'S ALL WE CAN GO OFF OF. SO IF WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND WE INVITE EVERYBODY AND INSTEAD OF FIVE APPLICANTS, WE HAVE 20, 30 ORGANIZATIONS IN HERE. ONE MIGHT DO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, THE OTHER ONE MIGHT DO PERMANENT HOUSING, SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT DO CASE MANAGEMENT. A CHURCH MIGHT HELP FACILITATE STREET OUTREACH. WE'RE FACILITATING THE CITY'S KIND OF JUST OVERSEEING AND JUST GUIDING EVERYBODY. THAT'S REALLY WHAT I SEE. SO SO TO THAT ARGUMENT TO THAT POINT, RIGHT. BECAUSE THAT'S A GREAT POINT. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN INVITATION TO BRING PROJECTS? ARE WE GOING TO PUT A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO IT BECAUSE THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M WHAT ARE WE ARE WE JUST GOING TO SAY, YEAH. ARE WE SOLICITING. WELL, I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT A SOLICITATION. I THINK IT'S ABOUT JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION. LIKE I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO JUST EVEN COUNCIL WE SET UP TABLES AND EVERYTHING AND ALL OF US ARE JUST DOWN HERE LIKE, HEY, WHAT WHAT DO YOU PROVIDE OR WHAT DO YOU PROVIDE? AND JUST HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION? WHEN WE WERE MET WITH BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION, THEY HAD LIKE NINE RECOMMENDATIONS TO GO OFF OF. BUT FIRST, THEY WANTED EACH CITY TO KIND OF FIND A DOLLAR AMOUNT. OKAY, SEE THERE THERE'S WHERE I'M GOING. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. SHE CAN GO INTO IT A LITTLE MORE IN DETAIL, BUT GO AHEAD, MISS SHERMAN. I'M SORRY. OKAY. YES. EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING, SIR. SO IN OUR FIRST SESSION, WE HAD BASICALLY HOMEWORK THAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT WAS TO LOOK AT ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE IMPACTED IN EACH CITY WHEN IT COMES TO ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES REGARDING HOMELESSNESS. YOU KNOW, ANYTHING FROM OBVIOUSLY WE TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT CODE COMPLIANCE ANY ISSUES WITH LIKE CUSTOMER SERVICE INTERACTING WITH SOME OF THOSE ISSUES. SO THE BROAD RANGE OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE COSTS, WHAT ARE THE STAFF COSTS, WHAT ARE THE COSTS. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE CLEANING UP AREAS THAT WERE WERE CAMPS ON CITY PROPERTIES. SO THE IMPACTS TO PARKS AND FACILITIES AS AN EXAMPLE. SO ALL THOSE COSTS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY ASKED US TO PULL TOGETHER. BECAUSE PART OF THIS NARRATIVE, AS WE GO INTO THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION AT THE STATE LEVEL, THAT DATA IS ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT TO TELL THE STORY TO THE STATE OF, YOU'VE [00:50:04] ASKED US TO DO THIS, BUT HERE'S SOME OF THE COSTS OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, TRY TO GET MORE RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, TO OUR COUNTY AND OTHERS FOR, FOR SOLVING SOME OF THESE, THESE CHALLENGES. OKAY. SO SO TO THAT POINT, THERE IS A FINANCIAL WELL, THAT'S MORE SO FOR THE STATE BECAUSE THE STATE DID THIS UNFUNDED MANDATE. LIKE WHEN YOU SAID IT'S TWO PRONGED, IT IS TWO PRONGED. WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE STATE AND SAY, HEY, Y'ALL GAVE US THIS UNFUNDED MANDATE WITH NO GUIDANCE, NO NOTHING. OKAY. BUT THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, INSTEAD OF JUST CRYING OVER SPILLED MILK AT THE SAME TIME, WE CAN STILL BE PROACTIVE. LIKE, OKAY, THEY FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO STEP IT UP. LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO. SO ALL RIGHT, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THAT. NO NO NO THAT'S ALL. BUT HERE WE ARE. WE'RE IN OCTOBER AND NOW WE GOT NOVEMBER. WE GOT VETERAN'S DAY. WE GOT ELECTION DAY. WE'VE GOT THANKSGIVING. SO SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THERE, YOU WANT TO HAVE A MEETING? EITHER I WOULD SAY. I WOULD SAY BEFORE THANKSGIVING. I THINK THAT COULD FIT LIKE NOVEMBER 5TH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 15TH OR. WHEN'S YOUR NEXT MEETING? IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE WEEK OF THE HURRICANE, BUT IT GOT PUSHED. IT GOT PUSHED BACK. SO THAT'LL BE NEXT WEEK. NEXT FRIDAY IS THE SECOND ONE ON THE 25TH. NEXT FRIDAY. OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE MORE INTEL? YES. SO RIGHT NOW, THE TARGET IS. MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE IN MID NOVEMBER. YES. AND BASED ON YOUR DISCUSSION. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. WE GOT CONSENSUS ON THIS. AND THEN COUNCILMAN WEINBERGER'S YOU. YEAH. YOU KNOW AGAIN. DOES THAT GIVE US ENOUGH TIME TO, TO GET AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED AS POSSIBLE? I MEAN, THE IDEA IS, IS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MONETARY CONTRIBUTION, AND WHAT IT WOULD TAKE IS WE'RE REALLY NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT UNTIL WE CAN GET AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS AS POSSIBLE, HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, HEAR WHAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE, AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THAT WOULD COST, BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION DOES, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH WITH THEIR BUDGET, WHICH IS REALLY LIMITED, AND THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT THEY CAN DO. I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE, THE, THE, THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, SITUATION ON A, ON A LARGER SCALE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I GET THAT, I GET THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, MADAM SHERMAN, RIGHT, IS INVITING THESE FOLKS TO STAKEHOLDERS, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE PREPARED WITH COST FOR SERVICES AT THE SAME TIME. AM I HEARING THE SAME THING, AN ESTIMATE OF COST FOR SERVICES OR WHAT THEY WOULD NOT WHAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE WITHOUT ANY COST? MAYOR, WHAT I'VE HEARD IS, IS A BIT DIFFERENT. I THINK IT'S IT'S GETTING OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGED. ALL CHURCHES OR NON-FOR PROFIT. PERFECT EXAMPLE. I GAVE THE EXAMPLE LAST LAST MEETING WHERE EVERY OTHER SATURDAY WE HAVE A LOCAL CHURCH IN OUR COMMUNITY PARTNER UP WITH ANOTHER MINISTRY FROM FROM PALM BEACH COUNTY EVERY OTHER SATURDAY RIGHT HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE OR HOMELESS. THEY HAVEN'T ASK ANYTHING OF US. THOSE ARE MINISTRY THAT THEY THEY GOT LIT. I MEAN, LAID ON THEIR HEARTS TO SERVE. THEY STEPPED OUT AND SERVED. AND THEY WILL CONTINUE AS FAR AS I KNOW. AND THAT REALLY BROUGHT JOY TO MY HEART TO SEE THIS MINISTRY IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS SAYING. LET'S INVITE THEM. HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. HOW WHAT CAN YOU DO? SHOULD YOU LEAD TO TO HELP? SO LET'S HAVE THAT OVERALL CONVERSATION AND SEE SEE WHAT COMES OUT OF IT. SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL ASPECT WILL COME. BUT LET'S HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. OKAY. NO. AND I SEE THAT I SEE THAT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I SEE THE FINANCES TO IT. AND I ALSO I ALSO SEE FEEDING IS DIFFERENT THAN HOUSING. RIGHT. HOUSING IS A BIGGER IT'S IT'S YOU CAN'T COMPARE THE TWO SO THAT THAT'S WHAT I'M AT. BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'VE GIVEN DIRECTION RIGHT. WE ALL AGREE TO SOMEWHERE MID BEFORE THANKSGIVING I WOULD IMAGINE. I WAS JUST CHECKING WITH STAFF. I'M SORRY, WITH, WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE ON THE WEEK OF NOVEMBER 11TH. SO THE 11TH IS VETERANS DAY. YEAH. THE 12TH, THAT TUESDAY. WE COULD LOOK AT THAT DATE. I DIDN'T CHECK WITH YOU, TERESE. SO WE CAN CHECK THAT ONE THE 13TH THAT WEDNESDAY. IT APPEARS COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS OPEN. THE THURSDAY IS NOT OPEN BECAUSE THAT'S THE MALABAR PDA DATE. SO MAYBE THE TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY IF THE CHAMBERS IS AVAILABLE AND YOU ALL ARE AVAILABLE, WE CAN TRY TO LOCK THAT TARGET DATE IN. WELL, I CAN LOOK AT MY CALENDAR RIGHT NOW. IN PARTICULAR DURING VETERAN'S DAY IN TOTAL TRANSPARENCY. IT'S ONE OF THE BUSIEST DAYS OF THE YEAR. IN MY ON MY CALENDAR. BUT CERTAINLY COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING THAT. THAT'S FINE. 11 12TH OR ANY ANYWHERE. IT COULD BE THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING. I GUESS YOU GUYS WOULD WANT TO MEET, RIGHT? RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING, YOU SAID SO. WHATEVER. WHATEVER CAN FIT. THE PROBLEM IS GETTING PEOPLE HERE, RIGHT? I DON'T SEE THEM COMING IN THE WEEK OF THANKSGIVING. SO TRY TO HIT THE 12TH AND 13TH LIKE YOU SAID, MAN. [00:55:01] OKAY. AND AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, JUST SO I'M CLARIFYING, RESTATING WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON A WORKSHOP DATE INVITING STAKEHOLDERS. RIGHT. SO AS SOON AS WE CAN LOCK DOWN THAT DATE WITH YOUR SCHEDULES, THEN WE WILL PREPARE THE LETTER TO SEND OUT TO. AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING, THE NON-PROFITS AND THE CHURCHES AND THE COMMUNITY AND TELL THEM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND ASK THEM TO COME AND BE A PART OF THE DISCUSSION. YEAH, WELL, I'LL MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU TODAY. SO. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. WHATEVER'S EASIEST. WHATEVER. WHATEVER IS EASIER FOR COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S EXACTLY THE PLAN. OKAY. SEND OUT LETTERS. HEY, LET'S DISCUSS THIS. OKAY. RIGHT. NO, NO. NO OBLIGATION. RIGHT. OKAY, SO THAT THAT WAS NEXT PUBLIC COMMENT. MR. MARK MILLER. OH, PASTOR MARK. ALL RIGHT. MARK MILLER, 898 NELSON AVENUE. PALM BAY FOR 24 YEARS NOW. SO LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE BUT ON THE HOMELESSNESS. SO TODAY IS NATIONAL DAY OF DIGNITY. DAILY BREAD HOSTED A BIG BREAKFAST. THEY HAD SOME AWESOME INFORMATION THAT THEY PRESENTED ON CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS AND DIFFERENT OTHER KIND OF THINGS. I'M SURE THEY'RE PARTNERED WITH BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION, BUT I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. EXCELLENT SAUCE, EXCELLENT PRESENTATION TODAY. THEY REALLY DID. THEY KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK. SO BUT WHILE I'M HERE, TOTALLY DIFFERENT, I'M HERE TO INVITE YOU GUYS TO OUR PRAYER WALK THAT IS THIS SATURDAY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY. I WANT TO THANK THEIR ASSISTANCE AND HELP IN SETTING THIS UP AND MAKING IT HAPPEN, AND APPROVING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION SO WE CAN HAVE OUR PRAYER WALK. IT'S GOING TO BE THIS SATURDAY, LEAVING AT 10 A.M. FROM VICTORY IN CHRIST JESUS MINISTRIES, OF WHICH I'M THE SENIOR PASTOR THERE. AND WHAT'S THAT LOCATION? 2865 JUPITER BOULEVARD. PALM BAY 32909. ESSENTIALLY, IT'S RIGHT DIRECTLY BEHIND HERE ON JUPITER BOULEVARD, RIGHT BY GLORY BOUND CHURCH OF GOD. THEY HAVE A BIG SIGN, SO PEOPLE PROBABLY KNOW THAT AND HAVE SEEN THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRAYER WALK. IT'S A 2.3 MILE WALK. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THERE. WE'RE GOING TO COME BY THE LIBRARY, STOP AND PRAY. WE'RE GOING TO COME BY CITY HALL AND PRAY AND GO UP ELDERON AND PRAY THERE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS, AND THEN END UP BACK AT THE CHURCH BUILDING. FOR THOSE THAT CAN MAKE THE WALK, IT'S AWESOME. IT'LL ALL BE ON THE SIDEWALK AND WE HAVE SECURED SOME POLICE SUPPORT AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS PRAISE GOD, MAN, WE JUST AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. BUT I WANTED TO JUST EXTEND A PERSONAL INVITATION TO ALL YOU GUYS TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND TO ANYBODY WHO'S WATCHING THIS, TO COME ON OUT SATURDAY AND JOIN US IN THIS WALK. FOR THOSE THAT CANNOT MAKE THE WALK, THE CHURCH IS GOING TO BE OPEN AND STAFFED, AND THERE'LL BE FOLKS IN THERE PRAYING AND WORSHIP AND ALL KINDS OF GOOD THINGS. AND WE JUST WANT TO PRAY. WE WANT TO PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS. WE WANT TO PRAY FOR THIS NATION. WE WANT TO PRAY FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE MISSION AND VISION THAT GOD GAVE OUR CHURCH THIS YEAR WAS ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY, CHANGE THE FACE AND MAKE SOME NOISE TO CHANGE THE FACE OF THE CHURCH IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN HIDDEN FOR FAR TOO LONG. IT'S TIME TO COME OUT AND BE THE HANDS AND FEET AND BE, YOU KNOW, AND DEMONSTRATE THE LOVE OF JESUS AND TO MAKE SOME NOISE, A HEALTHY NOISE, NOT A RIOTOUS NOISE, BUT A PRAISE NOISE TO JESUS. RIGHT? AND TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH HOMELESSNESS, WITH WHATEVER ISSUES WE MAY BE GOING ON. SO SATURDAY, 930 WILL BE WORSHIP. THE MARCH PRAYER WALK WILL LEAVE AT TEN AND WE'D LOVE TO SEE EVERYBODY JOIN US. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, PASTOR MARK. I WANT TO EXCUSE MYSELF BECAUSE I'LL BE AT A WORLD WAR TWO MEMORIAL. PRESENTATION IN VERO BEACH, SIR. PASTOR DELGADO. KEN DELGADO. THAT'S ME. KEN DELGADO, 154 ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY. AND THIS TIME, I JUST WANT TO BE THANKFUL. MILTON HAS COME. HURRICANE MILTON HAS GONE. OUR GOVERNOR HAS SAID WE DODGED A BULLET. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT PRAYER IS A SHOCK ABSORBER. AND THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WERE PRAYING FOR FLORIDA AND AGAINST MILTON, EVEN WHEN IT WAS STILL OFF OF YUCATAN, PRAYING FOR SHEARING WINDS, WHICH WE SAW HAPPEN TOWARDS THE END. I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR MANY, MANY THINGS. AND AT THE SAME TIME, WHILE I'M THANKING GOD, THE THE OTHER PART OF THE COIN IS THAT OUR HEART GOES OUT TO ALL THOSE WHO LOST LOVED ONES, ALL THOSE WHO LOST [01:00:06] POSSESSIONS AND HOMES AND HOUSES ON THE WEST COAST, AND OUR PRAYERS AND OUR FINANCES ARE TOWARDS THEM. AND WE PRAY THAT GOD WILL TOUCH THEIR HEARTS AND AND THAT THE CHURCH, ALONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT, WOULD RISE UP AT THIS MOMENT AND AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I WANT TO BE THANKFUL THAT THAT WHEN IT HIT FLORIDA, IT FELL DOWN QUICKLY. COULD HAVE BEEN A FIVE. I LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT PRAYER CAUSED IT TO GO TO 5 TO 3 AND QUICKLY TO ONE. I'D LIKE TO BELIEVE PRAYER DID THAT. THERE WAS A WALL OF PRAYER BY INTERCESSORS ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES THAT HAD RISEN UP SAYING, PRAY FOR FLORIDA. I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAVED. I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR WHAT APPEARED TO ME A BUBBLE AROUND BREVARD COUNTY. AND IT SEEMED LIKE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, BREVARD COUNTY WAS NOT JUST SPARED, BUT PROTECTED. I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR THAT. I WANT TO THANK GOD FOR FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE OF THE CITY IN FACING THESE DIFFICULT TIMES. AND THEN I WANT TO THANK GOD THAT THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE, WE WERE CRYING OUT FOR FINANCES AND YOU ALL WERE PRESENTING ALL THE NEEDS. AND YET JESUS SAID, GIVE US OUR DAILY BREAD. AND BETWEEN THAT, THAT YEAR THAT IT SEEMED LIKE EVERY DEPARTMENT WAS SHOUTING OUT FOR MONEY. YET HERE WE ARE TODAY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE GOD HAS SUPPLIED OUR DAILY BREAD. AND LIKE WHEN GOD SPOKE TO MOSES AND HE SAID, WHAT'S IN YOUR HAND? AND HE USED WHAT WAS IN HIS HAND, AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE THANKS TO THE CITY FOR USING WHAT WAS IN THEIR HAND AND THEN PRAYING, PRAYING FOR THAT WHICH LACKED. AND HERE WE ARE. THERE'S ALWAYS NEEDS, AS YOU SAID, THERE'S ALWAYS PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY ON THE GROUND. THERE'S ALWAYS NEEDS. AND YET GOD HAS BEEN THERE ALL ALONG. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT HE EVEN EDGES OUT ON TOUCHING EVERYBODY. IT'S JUST OUT PALM BAY AND THE CITY AND AND TOUCHES EVERYBODY AND IS WITH EVERYBODY AT ALL TIMES. SO AT THIS TIME, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU GOD. THANK YOU JESUS. AND THANK THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY AND THE CITY OFFICIALS. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISS PAT DALPRA. MISS DALPRA. YES. GOOD EVENING, PAT DALPRA, 14 GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST. AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE GOOD LORD FOR HIS MERCY AND PROTECTION. AND I MEAN, YES, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A WHOLE LOT WORSE. I DO WANT TO BRING UP THE POINT OF THIS SEWAGE DUMPING. I KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENED MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, AND MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE REALLY GOING TO DO WITH THAT PROBLEM, AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO FIX THE PROBLEM? AT LEAST HALF, NO MORE THAN HALF OF THE DUMPING WAS IN THE NORTHEAST, CLOSE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IT'S GOING INTO THE CANALS AND INTO THE LAGOON. SO I'M REALLY, REALLY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING A HANDLE ON IT. SO ALSO THE FLOODING, MY NEIGHBORHOOD NEVER USED TO REALLY FLOOD, AND IT'S BEEN FLOODING TERRIBLY. SO. AND THIS IS GOING ON ALL THROUGH THE STATE. IT'S NOT JUST HERE IN PALM BAY. SO WE ALSO NEED TO GET A HANDLE ON THIS BUILDING UP UP AND UP BECAUSE IT'S CAUSED THAT'S WHAT'S CAUSING THE FLOODING. SO MY BLOCK GEORGE'S AVENUE, KENT. DUNBAR. AND I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT THE OTHER STREET IS. ANYWAY, THE TWO TWO GUYS THAT ARE BUILDING THAT USED TO BE A PARK. THEY HAVE TWO HOUSES THAT ARE BEING BUILT. THEY BASICALLY HAVE BOXED US IN. SO THE WATER IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE. AND I HAVE NOW SIX NEIGHBORS THAT ARE VERY UPSET BECAUSE THEIR THEIR YARDS ARE BEING FLOODED AND ONE NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO SUE THE CITY. SO WE REALLY NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE GRADING AND THE HEIGHT OF THESE HOUSES AND COMMERCIAL. THE OTHER THING IS THERE IS A CHIPOTLE GOING UP ON EMERSON AND MALABAR. ARE WE NOT PUTTING A TURNING LANE IN THERE AT SOME POINT? SO THAT'S A QUESTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE THE CITY WAS GOING TO REDO THE INTERSECTION THERE. BECAUSE THAT MAY HAVE AN EFFECT ON ALL THE TRAFFIC FLOW ON THAT CORNER. THAT'S IT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [01:05:02] THANK YOU. MA'AM. THAT THAT WAS A MOUTHFUL. LET'S START WITH THE THE SEWAGE AND THEN THE ELEVATION. AND ALSO WE'LL WRAP UP WITH BECAUSE SHE'S RIGHT. WE HAD REQUESTED A STUDY TO HAVE A TURN LANE OR I HAVE BROUGHT THAT UP. A TURN A RIGHT HAND TURN LANE AT THAT EMERSON AND MALABAR INTERSECTION. THANK YOU SIR. SO YEAH, FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T AWARE OF WHAT OCCURRED AT THE AS A RESULT OF HURRICANE MILTON LAST WEEK. THE CITY DID FARE VERY WELL AS, AS THE PASTOR MENTIONED OVERALL, AND WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT. BUT LEADING UP TO THE ACTUAL ARRIVAL OF THE STORM, THERE WAS A LOT OF HEAVY RAIN THAT WEDNESDAY. A STORMWATER PIPE, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT WASTEWATER SPILL THAT OCCURRED WAS RELATED TO A STORMWATER PIPE OFF OF NORWOOD IN THE NORTHEAST AREA. THE STORMWATER PIPE WAS ACTUALLY ALREADY ON OUR LIST AND FUNDED TO BE REPLACED THIS YEAR, SO IT WAS ALREADY A FUNDED PROJECT AND WE HAD BEEN DOING WHAT WE COULD TO TAKE CARE OF IT UP UNTIL THE TIME WHEN WE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, AWARDED A BID. AND ACTUALLY, WE ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHEN WE PUT IN FOR A GRANT APPLICATION AS WELL TO SEE IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, MONEY OUTSIDE OF CITY FUNDS. BUT NONETHELESS, IT WAS IN THE STORMWATER BUDGET. THE EXCESSIVE RAINS OVERWHELMED THAT PIPE AND CAUSED IT ULTIMATELY TO FAIL. THAT FAILURE OF THE STORMWATER PIPE IS WHAT ULTIMATELY LED TO FOR THOSE WHO LIVED IN THE AREA, THERE WAS A ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE INTERSECTION OF BABCOCK AND PORT MALABAR WAS FILLED WITH FLOODWATER, AND WE HAD TO ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN THE INTERSECTION FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. THAT WAS BECAUSE THE PIPE HAD FAILED. AND AS MORE RAIN CAME AND THE PRESSURE OF THAT RAINWATER PUSHED AGAINST THAT FAILED PIPE, ULTIMATELY THE PIPE BLEW OUT. AND SO THAT ALL HAPPENED VERY RAPIDLY ON WEDNESDAY. A LATE AFTERNOON AND WHEN THE STORM WATER PIPE BLEW IT YOU KNOW, THE POWER OF THE RAINWATER IN THAT PIPE PUSHED OUT THE SOILS IN FRONT OF IT. AND WHEN THAT DID, WHEN THAT OCCURRED, IT ACTUALLY FULLY EXPOSED THREE VERY LARGE PIPES. AND THOSE THREE PIPES WERE A A RAW WATER LINE COMING, DRAWING WATER OUT OF OUR WELLS. IT WAS A DRINKING WATER LINE THAT BRINGS WATER TO THE RESIDENTS. AND THEN THE THIRD PIPE THAT IT EXPOSED WAS A WASTEWATER PIPE. AND IN THAT ENSUING FLOOD OF RAINWATER THAT WAS GOING OUT OF THE BROKEN PIPE AND THE UNDERMINING OF THE SOILS AROUND THOSE THREE UTILITIES PIPES, THAT'S WHAT ULTIMATELY CAUSED THAT SEWER LINE TO BREAK. SO IT WASN'T A MAINTENANCE FAILURE WHEN IT CAME TO THE WASTEWATER PIPE, BUT IT WAS THE POWER OF ALL THAT RAINWATER THAT CAUSED THAT INCIDENT TO OCCUR. SO STAFF WENT OUT THERE WORKED FOR? I WOULDN'T, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY 7 OR 8 HOURS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT. THEY GOT OUT THERE AS QUICKLY AS THEY COULD. THEY WORKED UNTIL CLOSE TO 1230, 1:00 AT NIGHT BEFORE THE THEY WERE ABLE TO TO DO WHAT THEY COULD AND THEY PUT THE PIPE BACK TOGETHER, STOPPED THE SEWAGE OVERFLOW, BUT IT WAS DIRECT RAW SEWAGE. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, YES, THAT IS THAT WAS THE BIGGEST OVERFLOW WE HAD. IT WAS YOU KNOW, A LITTLE UNDER 500,000 GALLONS OF RAW SEWAGE. SO WHETHER WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED THAT WITH, WITH ANY PARTICULAR MAINTENANCE OTHER THAN WE HAD ALREADY HAD THAT PIPE ON OUR LIST TO REPAIR? I WOULD LIKE TO ALWAYS SAY WE CAN REPAIR THINGS SOONER, BUT THAT WAS WHERE WE WERE AT THE LIFT STATIONS THAT WERE REPORTED AS OVERFLOWS. THOSE WERE PRIMARILY, I BELIEVE THERE WERE MAYBE FIVE OR SO LIFT STATIONS. THOSE WERE PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF WHAT WE CALL INFLOW AND INFILTRATION. SO IT WAS STORMWATER, RAINWATER THAT WAS GETTING INTO OUR WASTEWATER SYSTEM THROUGH A VARIETY OF THINGS. AND IN THE NORTHEAST YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THOSE PIPES ARE OLDER, BOTH ON THE RESIDENCE SIDE AND THE CITY SIDE. SO THERE WAS SOME DEFINITELY LIFT STATIONS THAT BECAME OVERWHELMED BY MORE WATER IN THERE THAT WAS CAUSING THOSE ISSUES. SO STAFF DEALT WITH THOSE AS THEY COULD AS QUICKLY AS THEY COULD WHEN THEY CAME UP. I DO WANT TO SAY, AND WE PUT THIS MESSAGE OUT EARLIER, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH REGARD TO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I WILL SAY THAT BASED ON COUNCIL SUPPORT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW, WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY INCREASING OUR INVESTMENTS AND FUNDING ON OUR REPAIRS AND OUR MAINTENANCE OF OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. AND THAT'S NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE NEW THINGS WE'VE BEEN DOING, BUT THAT'S ON BOTH THE STORMWATER AND THE WASTEWATER SIDE. AND SOME OF THE INFORMATION JUST FOR FOR PURPOSES OF THOSE WHO ARE LISTENING, IS THAT OUR CURRENT BUDGETED PROJECTS FOR WASTEWATER IS OVER $32 MILLION. AND IT INCLUDES UPGRADES TO MULTIPLE LIFT STATIONS, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING, BUT THIS IS ONGOING PROJECTS. IT INCLUDES LINING PIPES TO HELP WITH THE INFILTRATION AND INFLOW OR INTRUSION OF STORM WATER THAT I MENTIONED. IT INCLUDES INSTALLING PERMANENT BYPASS PUMPS. IT INCLUDES ALSO NEW TECHNOLOGY RESOURCES. WE'VE BEEN INVESTING IN THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, SMART MANHOLE COVERS TO TRY TO GIVE US INTELLIGENCE ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING UNDERGROUND IN THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM [01:10:02] BEFORE IT GETS TO THE LIFT STATION, SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO MITIGATE ISSUES. ON THE STORMWATER SIDE, WE HAVE OVER 18 MILLION CURRENTLY BUDGETED TO 22 ACTIVE STORMWATER PROJECTS. AND THOSE INCLUDE, AGAIN, PIPELINING AND REPLACEMENT BAFFLE BOXES FOR WATER QUALITY, REPLACEMENT BOX CULVERTS AND HEADWALLS AND OTHER RELATED INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENTS. SO I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT SO THAT EVERYONE IS AWARE THAT THERE THERE IS THERE IS A PLAN. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT. WE'RE INVESTING MILLIONS IN IN THE OLD INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY, AND WE'RE NOT DONE YET, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON IT. I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT WE CAN COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THESE KINDS OF SITUATIONS IN THE FUTURE. BUT WE WE HAVE ENTERED INTO AN INTERESTING PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THERE'S THESE HEAVIER RAIN EVENTS THAN, THAN WE'RE ALL USED TO. AND SO TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE FLOODING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, OUR TEAM IS ACTIVELY WORKING ON FIGURING OUT SOLUTIONS. WE HAVE A AN ANTIQUATED 1960S OR SO GDC SWALE STORMWATER CANAL SYSTEM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING TO SEE WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT BETTER. BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A HEAVY TASK FOR STAFF TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE OUR CURRENT SYSTEM ADAPT TO THE TIMES WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE, THESE STORMS THAT ARE GOING TO COME UPON US AND IT'S GOING TO BE MANY, MANY INCHES IN AN HOUR THAT WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY PLAN FOR. SO A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE THERE. LASTLY, I KNOW I'VE TAKEN A LITTLE BIT OF TIME HERE, THE EMERSON AND MALABAR CHIPOTLE. I ACTUALLY DO NOT KNOW OFFHAND THE QUESTION, THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. STAFF IS LOOKING. SO MAYBE I CAN GET BACK TO COUNCIL ON THAT IN A MINUTE. OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. AND I JUST HAD A CONFIRMATION THAT NO TURN LANE IS BEING ADDED BY THE DEVELOPER. PUBLIC WORKS DOES HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS PART OF THE. IS IT A CIP FOR THIS COMING YEAR? YEAH. IT'S PART OF OUR CIP FOR THIS YEAR. THAT IS THE IMPROVEMENTS BOTH TO THE, THE INTERSECTION THERE AT EMERSON AND MALABAR, SPECIFICALLY THE THE AREA RIGHT NEXT TO THIS NEW CHIPOTLE. IT'S THE EXPANSION OF THE TURN LANES AND CHANGING THAT CONFIGURATION. BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHICH IS THE WIDENING OF EASTBOUND EMERSON. AS YOU TURN, AS YOU'RE ON, AS YOUR I'M SORRY, MALABAR. LET ME SAY THAT AGAIN. YOU'RE COMING OFF OF EMERSON, BASICALLY HEADED SOUTH, AND YOU'RE TURNING ONTO MALABAR TO GO EAST. MALABAR IS TWO LANES RIGHT THERE, BUT IT BECOMES THREE A LITTLE BIT LATER. WE HAVE THE SPACE TO ADD THE THIRD LANE SO THAT WHEN YOU TURN OFF OF EMERSON, YOU'RE BASICALLY POINTED SOUTH AND YOU'RE TURNING EAST, THAT THOSE THREE LANES WILL BE IN EXISTENCE GOING FORWARD. SO THAT PROJECT IS IS PLANNED FOR STAFF TO WORK ON THIS COMING YEAR TO START THAT. SO THAT WILL IMPROVE THAT INTERSECTION ANYWAY. SO WOULD THAT MAKE IT TO TWO TURNING LANE? YES, EXACTLY. TWO TURNING LANES. YEAH. YEAH. BUT I HAD SPECIFICALLY WHEN THAT CAME UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT RIGHT TURN LANE GOING WEST, GOING NORTH ONTO EMERSON, GOING WEST ON MALABAR AND TURNING THAT RIGHT LANE. AND I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. WHERE IS THAT? IS THAT AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE WORKING OUT THAT INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT STAFF IS CHECKING ON THAT FOR ME? I DON'T KNOW THAT PART. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER, DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. ROBERTSON, THIS. BRIAN, CAN YOU PUT THE SLIDES UP? ROBERT STILES, 1796 WINBURN DRIVE, SOUTHEAST. MR. MAYOR, I SAW YOU ON TV THIS MORNING. YOU WERE BEING QUESTIONED ABOUT THE 500,000 GALLON SPILL. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANNEL I WAS WATCHING, BUT THEY TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE IT. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS. THIS AREA HERE. PALM BREEZE APARTMENTS, 204 UNITS GOING IN THERE. BASICALLY, IT'S OFF OF SAN FILIPPO AND JUPITER. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS EXTRAORDINARY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. YOU LOOK AT I THINK THE 5 OR 6 BUILDINGS. OKAY. AND I THINK THIS WAS APPROVED IN PINE TREE. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. CARRY ON. YEAH. KIND OF. GIVE ME MY TIME BACK. I'LL GIVE YOU TWO APARTMENTS. ORNAMENTS. THERE'S LIKE SIX HUGE APARTMENTS. COUNCIL. AND THEY'RE ALL. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THIS IS SAN FILIPPO. I THINK I TOOK THIS AT ABOUT 950 IN THE MORNING. AND YOU GOT ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. SO YOU HAVE ALL THESE APARTMENTS. AND AGAIN, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE NUMBERS 204 UNITS TIMES AT LEAST TWO, TWO CARS PER PER UNIT, OR 1.8 OR 2.8 PEOPLE. THEY'RE ALL DUMPING OUT HERE. SO THIS IS ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE. [01:15:03] YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOU KNOW ASPHALT DOESN'T ABSORB RAINWATER. SO IF WE WERE TO GET THE 12 TO 20IN THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT AROUND THE STATE AND NORTH OF US, WE'D BE IN DIRE STRAITS. HERE. YOU HAVE PEOPLE STUCK IN TRAFFIC HERE IN AROUND ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN TO ABOUT 9:00 IN THE MORNING, STUCK IN TRAFFIC. THAT COSTS MONEY TOO. COSTS MONEY IN BURNING GAS, COSTS MONEY IN AND PRODUCTIVITY THAT YOU'RE NOT AT WORK. AND I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW THAT STAFF, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE MAJOR PROJECTS, I PRAY TO GOD THAT YOU'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A, A DEVELOPER'S NOTES. REALLY, EVERY ONE OF YOU NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND SEE WHAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THAT AREA. GO BACK TO ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IS SURROUNDED IN THAT AREA BY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND JUST RUIN THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE. SO WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET WITH ALL THIS BUILDING, THIS OVERBUILDING, THIS GRIDLOCK THAT WE'RE CREATING, WHAT IS YOUR CONSIDERATION IN A QUALITY OF LIFE OR LIKE LACK OF QUALITY OF LIFE THAT'S HAPPENING TO THESE FOLKS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET OUT THERE AND MAKE A LEFT TURN AT 730 IN THE MORNING? I KNOW DONNIE FELIX USED TO TAKE YOUR DAUGHTER UP THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU GET STUCK THERE. I MEAN, THIS IS 20 MINUTES NOW. IT'S GOING TO BE 30 MINUTES. WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE REALLY NEED TO PAUSE OR PUT A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING EXTRAORDINARY, EXCESSIVE BUILDING THAT'S DESTROYING QUALITY OF LIFE. YOU GET ANOTHER 86 HOMES THAT FILL THAT AREA, AND THEY'RE ALL STILL USING THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE. PUBLIX, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ALL THE AMENITIES HERE. PLEASE CONSIDER THAT GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. KENNETH CROOKS. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. KENNETH CROOKS, 1396 MADDOX STREET NORTHWEST. I DON'T LIKE PUBLIC SPEAKING, SO I'LL TRY AND GET THROUGH THIS. I RECEIVED A CODE COMPLIANCE NOTICE ON SEPTEMBER 7TH. WE WEREN'T HOME TO RECEIVE IT FOR ABOUT A WEEK. BUT THE COMPLAINT IS THAT SECTION 1.179.076 USE OF RIGHT OF WAY WITHOUT THE REQUIRED PERMIT TO WHICH PLANTS AND WOOD CURBING PREVENT PUBLIC WORK MAINTENANCE. IS THE ALLEGED OFFENSE. AFTER A FEW ATTEMPTS, I WAS ABLE TO REACH THE CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER LISTED. SHE INDICATED THAT THE COMPLAINT WAS LODGED BY PUBLIC WORKS AND THAT HER HANDS WERE TIED. NOTHING THAT SHE COULD DO. SHE PROVIDED ME WITH THE NAME OF DENNIS BLUNT. TO CONTACT TO TRY AND GET SOME ENLIGHTENMENT AS TO WHAT THE SITUATION WAS. I HAVE EMAILED HIM ON. CALLED HIM FIRST. NO RESPONSE. EMAIL. GOT A RESPONSE. SAID HE WAS GOING TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT. AND WHEN WOULD I BE AVAILABLE TO TO DISCUSS AND MEET? THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. APPARENTLY THE STORM CAME, IMPACTED THE PROCESS. THE LANDSCAPING THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR EIGHT YEARS. I'VE BEEN AT THAT RESIDENCE FOR 23. WE'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT EROSION OVER THE YEARS OF MY PROPERTY. IT'S HIGHER. THE ROAD GOES AROUND. MADDOCK GOES AROUND THE PROPERTY. SO MY BACK AND SIDE YARD ARE NOW KANAB STREET. AND I BROUGHT IN FILL TO MAKE IT USABLE FOR US AND HAVE PINNED EVERYTHING DOWN WITH THIS LANDSCAPE TIMBER DOCK POLE CUTOFFS THAT ARE PINNED WITH TWO. SORRY. REBAR. REBAR. IT'S REBAR. IT'S. IT'S NOT MOVED IN EIGHT YEARS. LANDSCAPE FABRIC IS UNDERNEATH AND UP. UP ONTO MY PROPERTY. PLANTS ARE PLANTED. THEY ARE WELL ESTABLISHED. ROOT SYSTEMS ARE VERY WELL ESTABLISHED. IT'S HOLDING EVERYTHING BACK. NOTHING HAS ERODED IN THE EIGHT YEARS SINCE I'VE DONE THIS. AND IT LOOKS GOOD. I COULDN'T GET AN EIGHT FOOT PRIVACY FENCE UP BECAUSE THE SETBACK WOULD HAVE TO BE SO MUCH BECAUSE OF THE ROAD THAT IT WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE FOR US. SO I USED PLANTS TO PROVIDE AND HEDGES TO PROVIDE SOME PRIVACY. SO I'M REALLY UPSET. [01:20:02] AND I'VE NOT QUITE SURE WHAT EXACTLY IT IS THAT THEY'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH. THEY WERE THERE ON SEPTEMBER 10TH. THEY DID. THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME AND THE GENTLEMAN CAME BY IN THE TRENCHING UNIT, SAID OUR YARD LOOKED GREAT AND HE WASN'T GOING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. AWESOME. NO PROBLEM. OKAY. HAD A NICE CONVERSATION WITH HIM. FIRST OF ALL, LET ME JUST SAY I'M SORRY THAT YOU COULDN'T CONNECT WITH MR. BUNT, RIGHT? THAT'S THE FIRST ISSUE. THERE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGES, OF COURSE. YOU KNOW, LOOKING UP TO THE STORM AND ALL OF THAT. SO HIS SCHEDULE MIGHT HAVE BEEN REALLY TIGHT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU YOU COMING HERE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO HAVE DIALOG, FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY THEY WANT TO WANT TO DO AND SEE HOW YOU GUYS CAN COLLABORATE. SO TODAY I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU GO SEE THAT YOUNG MAN RIGHT OVER THERE WITH THE BLUE OKAY. HE'S DENNIS'S BOSS OKAY. SO THAT'S THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT? RIGHT SIR. AND MAYBE WE COULD COME INTO SOME UNDERSTANDING OF SCHEDULE, SEE HOW WE COULD WORK THIS OUT. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE THAT, I WOULD LIKE I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN. THANK YOU. TRY AND GET IT RESOLVED. YES, SIR. THANK THANKS FOR COMING IN, SIR. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. NEXT WEEK, MISS CONNELLY. SUZANNE CONNOLLY, 3901 DIXIE HIGHWAY, NORTHEAST. TONIGHT I COME BEFORE YOU AS AN EXTRA CONCERNED CITIZEN FROM HURRICANE MILTON. THERE WERE FIVE LOCATIONS REPORTED WITH SEWAGE SPILLS WITHIN PALM BAY. TOTAL SEWAGE 467,400 GALLONS. IF WE COMPARE THIS EVENT TO PRIOR YEARS, THIS EVENT MAY SEEM MINOR. THE CITY IS IMPROVING. IN 2022 HURRICANE IRMA, THERE WAS 7.2 MILLION GALLONS OVERFLOWED INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. AND IN 2017, FOLLOWING HURRICANE IRMA, THERE WERE 30 MILLION GALLONS DISCHARGED INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. THE MAYOR AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY ISSUED A COMMUNICATION TO CITIZENS, WHICH I APPRECIATED VERY MUCH A RESPONSE TO STORM WATER PIPE FAILURE AND PRIORITIZED INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS. IT IS VERY IMPRESSIVE WHAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS PROACTIVELY DOING. HOWEVER, ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE IN PROCESS AND MANY OF THEM WILL TAKE YEARS TO COMPLETE. THE REALITY IS, WHILE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIXES ARE BEING DONE, OUR PROBLEM IS CONTINUING TO WORSEN. ANOTHER REALITY IS THAT THE TAXPAYERS SUBSTANTIALLY PAY THE GREATER PORTION OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES, STORMWATER FEES, ROAD BONDS AND SOON THE MANDATORY SEWER SEPTIC TO SEWER HOOKUP. TO STOP THESE EVENTS, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE CAUSE. WE ARE OVERDEVELOPED FOR OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE. TWO THINGS CAN HAPPEN TONIGHT IMMEDIATELY. ONE IS THIS COUNCIL CAN MANDATE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. THE SECOND THING IS YOU CAN BEGIN TO APPROVE NEW DEVELOPMENT, TO BEGIN TO NEW DEVELOPMENT, TO BEGIN BUILDING ONLY WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS READY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. NEXT SPEAKER AND MADAM CONLEY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. MADAM CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO JUST SHARE WITH MISS CONLEY HOW WE CAN. I AGREE THAT WE COULD DO BETTER WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND YOU ELOQUENTLY PUT LAID IT OUT. AND I KNOW THAT GABRIEL, THE NEW DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES, JUST CAME ON BOARD AND HE ALREADY SHARED A VISION OF EXPANDING OUR UTILITIES TO. TO MISS CONNOLLY'S POINT IN THAT REGARD, MAYBE SIT DOWN AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO TO SPEED UP THAT PROCESS OF INCREASING THAT UTILITIES AND OUR STORM WATER CAPACITY. NEXT SPEAKER. MISS DEBBIE NIZER. OH. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DEBBIE NIZER. I LIVE AT 944 WILEY CIRCLE. PALM BAY. AND YOU SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE CITIZENS. EVER SINCE THE COUNCIL APPROVED PUTTING IN THAT NEW PROJECT ON PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD. COUNTRY CLUB BEHIND MY HOUSE. I'M NOT GOING TO BORE YOU. I KNOW YOU ONLY HAVE. I HAVE THREE MINUTES. [01:25:03] I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT MY HEALTH ISSUES. MY FATHER'S. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE NEIGHBORS? I'M JUST GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN DONE. I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE CONSTANT POUNDING. I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT MY HOUSE SHAKING, THE CRACKS THAT ARE COMING NOW, THE DIRT. AND THIS WAS BEFORE THE HURRICANE. AND SPEAKING OF THE HURRICANE, I DIDN'T KNOW WE COULD PUT UP PICTURES. I HAVE PICTURES I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO SEE OF THE MOUNTAIN BEHIND MY HOUSE. AND THE DAY BEFORE THE HURRICANE, THEY BROUGHT MORE DIRT IN. AND WHEN I SAY MOUNTAIN, I'VE DRIVEN DOWN MY STREET WHERE I'M LIKE, THERE'S A PIECE OF WHATEVER EQUIPMENT DRIVING ACROSS MY ROOF. NO, THEY WERE DRIVING BEHIND MY HOUSE ON TOP OF THE DIRT. THIS DIRT HAS COME IN MY SCREEN ROOM. THIS DIRT HAS CAUSED DAMAGE NOT ONLY TO MY WINDOWS, MY NEIGHBOR'S POOL. IT'S COMING THROUGH. THEY'RE NOT. I KNOW, I'VE TALKED TO THE. I CALLED THE CITY COUNCIL. WHOEVER'S IN CHARGE OF THEM SUPPOSED TO PUT WATER DOWN, WHICH THEY'RE NOT DOING. AND AND I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THEM STARTING BEFORE SEVEN IN THE MORNING. AND HE SAID, WELL, AND I HAD TO WAIT BECAUSE YOU GUYS DIDN'T EVEN COME IN TILL THEN. I HAD TO HE TOLD ME TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY START BEFORE SEVEN. WELL, NOW THEY'RE STARTING AT SEVEN, BUT THEY'RE STILL NOT PUTTING THE WATER AND EVEN PUTTING THE WATER ON THE GROUND IS NOT ADDRESSING THE WATER THAT'S GOING UP ABOVE OUR ROOFS. MY ROOF WAS JUST SEALED THE TILE TWO YEARS AGO. THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED. AND THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE MY WHITE ROOF. NOW IT'S FILTHY. IT'S MOLDY, IT'S DIRTY. MY SCREEN ROOM HAS AN INCH OF DIRT COMING IN THROUGH THE SCREENS. IT'S COSTING ME MONEY. UTILITIES. I USED TO BE ABLE TO PUT MY LAUNDRY OUT. I USED TO BE ABLE TO OPEN MY WINDOWS AND LET SOME FRESH AIR IN. I HAVE SCREENS I PAID FOR HURRICANE WINDOWS WITH SCREENS. I CAN'T OPEN THEM BECAUSE THE DIRT COMES IN. IT'S JUST AN ISSUE THAT I DON'T KNOW. THE NEIGHBORS DON'T KNOW. IT'S NOT IMPROVING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE. AND THE OTHER SPEAKER TALKED ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE. I CAME DOWN TO PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD. I LIVE OFF OF TO BABCOCK TO COME HERE TONIGHT AND SAT THROUGH THREE LIGHTS BEFORE I COULD TURN RIGHT TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN. AND THOSE HOUSES HAVEN'T GONE IN YET. I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS. I KNOW OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME IN. THEY BUILT THE HOUSES, THEY'VE GONE OUT, THEY HAVEN'T BUILT ONE HOUSE YET. AND THAT POUNDING FROM THAT MACHINE, THEY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT A YEAR AGO, AND I WAS TOLD, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET THE ROADS IN, MA'AM, LET ME ASK YOU JUST FOR A POINT OF REFERENCE, BECAUSE YOUR TIME IS UP. OKAY. IS THAT THE GOLF COURSE? YES. OFF OF PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD. SO NO ONE ON THIS COUNCIL WAS WAS HERE, BUT BUT YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I THINK THERE'S SOME OF US THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ONE HOUSE IN THEM. WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE PREFERRED IT TO BE A GOLF COURSE. I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT. BUT TO YOUR TO YOUR POINT, MA'AM, I WANT TO TRY AND GET YOU SOME RELIEF WITH OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE SOMEHOW WE NEED TO FIND A RESOLUTION FOR THEM NOT CONSIDERING THE NEIGHBORS. SO OUT OF MY PROPERTY. SO, MA'AM, THAT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS. BUT I'M GOING TO. WHO DO YOU WANT TO ASSIGN THIS TO, MA'AM? JOHN, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE JOHN MCCALL WITH PUBLIC WORKS TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM MISS HAUSER. YES. AND WE'LL GET YOUR DETAILS. AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS AND BUILDING ARE BOTH INVOLVED IN OVERSIGHT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS LIKE THAT. SO I'LL. I'LL HAVE THEM. BUT THE DANGERS TO YOU AND YOUR PROPERTY IS UNACCEPTABLE, MA'AM, JUST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THEY COULD THEY COULD DEFINITELY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WITH OUR CODE. SO. YES, MA'AM. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOUNG MAN THERE. THAT GOOD LOOKING TALL MAN RIGHT THERE IN THE WHITE SHIRT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YES. I THINK LIKE THIS IS JUST ONLY ONE PERSON WE'VE HEARD. BUT IT'S THE ISSUE I'M SEEING ALL OVER THE CITY IN REGARDS TO CERTAIN BUILDERS NOT BEING CORDIAL OR CONSIDERATE OF THOSE AROUND THEM. LIKE AFTER, AFTER TRAFFIC. I WOULD SAY THIS IS ONE OF THE TOP ITEMS THAT IS AN ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN ADDRESS IT BETTER. I HAD A YOUNG LADY, SHE DIDN'T SEND ME AN EMAIL, BUT THE BUILDER REALLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING UP TO CODE WITH HER WITH HER HOUSE. SIMILAR TO ISSUE OF WHAT YOU BROUGHT UP, DEPUTY MAYOR. SO. WELL, IT'S REALLY MORE SO ACCOUNTABILITY. HOW I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, SET A TONE RIGHT AND ENFORCE WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS AND ENHANCE THAT. RIGHT. I THINK ENHANCING THAT AND THEN FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH ENFORCEMENT IS IS GOING TO BE CRITICAL. [01:30:03] BUT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN SOLVE HERE TONIGHT. BUT GIVEN DIRECTION TO STAFF TO SAY WE NEED TO HONE IN ON THESE BECAUSE THERE'S MANY EVEN THE BUILDERS WITH THE DUMPSTERS. RIGHT. THAT THEY'VE BEEN NEGLIGENT WITH THAT. SO I THINK STAFF ALREADY HAS AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS. SO IF WE COULD JUST WORK ON HOW WE CAN MAKE THEM MORE ACCOUNTABLE, WHAT CAN WE DO REGARDING OUR ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE THAT TYPE OF TEETH? AND THEN THE FOLLOW UP IS THE ENFORCEMENT. IT'S CRITICAL FOR THE ENFORCEMENT, THOUGH. WE COULD HAVE ALL WE WANT AS FAR AS AN ORDINANCE. BUT IF WE DON'T FOLLOW UP AND STICK TO TO OUR GUNS WITH THAT, THEN IT'S FOR NOT. SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU. I DON'T WANT OUR CITIZENS TO SUFFER ANY MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAVE, BUT ENOUGH. I'M SORRY. LET'S GO. DEPUTY MAYOR, MISS ISABELLE. RIGHT. MRS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ISABEL SANTA ISABEL. RIGHT. I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY. WE JUST CELEBRATED HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BUNCH OF CELEBRATION, WE STILL HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT THE CITY IS NOT BEING RESPONSIVE TO OUR HISPANIC COMMUNITY. WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE A PUERTO RICAN DAY PARADE THAT I'M VERY PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A PARTICIPANT ON FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, AND I AM VERY HAPPY THAT WE ARE ENGAGING IN MULTICULTURAL EVENTS. HOWEVER, OUR COMMUNITY IS NOT BEING REPRESENTED EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A HISPANIC MAYOR. I DON'T THINK THAT HE IS REALLY ENGAGED WITH OUR COMMUNITY. MY COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE REPRESENTATION WHEN THEY CALL 911 AND THERE'S NO SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE THERE. MY COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE REPRESENTATION OF THE CALL PUBLIC WORKS. THERE'S NOBODY TO SPEAK SPANISH. THEY GO TO PARKS AND RECREATION. NO SPANISH SPEAKER. WE HAVE GOT TO DO BETTER FOR THIS CITY TO ENGAGE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND HIRE PEOPLE OF COLOR AND PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE DIVERSE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH THE HOMELESSNESS AND OUR COMMUNITY. WE, MY ORGANIZATION, UNITED COALITION COUNCIL, HAS BEEN REACHED OUT BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVE CALLED ME TO TRY TO ASSIST HISPANIC PEOPLE WHEN THEY CAN'T GET ACCOMMODATION TODAY. I HAD A LADY THAT I HAD TO TRANSFER TO ORLANDO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE FACILITIES HERE THAT SPEAK SPANISH. SEEING AS OUR COMMUNITY IS GROWING, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S GROWING, WE NEED TO DO BETTER. GIVEN $6 MILLION TO ONE ORGANIZATION DOESN'T CUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S TOO MUCH MONEY FOR ONE ORGANIZATION. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING EVENTS AND EVENT HERE AND HAVE EVERYBODY COME TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO DISPERSE THOSE FUNDS. YOU CAN'T PUT ALL THAT PRESSURE ON NONPROFITS TO PROVIDE. I PROVIDE TO THIS COMMUNITY WITHOUT RECEIVING A DIME FROM THE CITY, FROM THE COUNTY, OR FROM FOR ANYBODY. OKAY. I SERVED 255 FAMILIES LAST YEAR. THIS YEAR ALONE. THIS PAST WEEKEND, I DID 27 FEMA APPLICATIONS. AND WHEN THEY CALLED 211 AND ASKED FOR A HISPANIC COMPANY, A HISPANIC NONPROFIT, THEY'RE TOLD THERE'S NONE. AND I AM REGISTERED. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. OUR WEBSITE HAD NO REPRESENTATION ABOUT THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY. DURING HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, I TALKED TO SUZANNE ABOUT IT BECAUSE I FELT THAT IT WAS NOT BEING REPRESENTED. WE NEED TO DO BETTER. SOMEBODY CALLS THE CITY AND SAYS THEY NEED ASSISTANCE. IF YOU HAVE NOBODY, CALL ME AND I'LL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO. BUT WE NEED TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY. I'M GETTING REALLY TIRED OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE SITUATION OF COMING HERE. NO ENGAGEMENT FROM YOU GUYS. I LOVE THAT YOU ENGAGE WITH EVERYONE, BUT I DON'T CARE IF YOU GUYS HAVE A PERSONAL SITUATION WITH ME BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ONE WITH YOU. BUT MY COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE RESPECTED AND NEEDS TO BE ATTENDED. SO WHEN I COME IN HERE AND I MAKE A COMMENT, I WANT YOUR ENGAGEMENT, JUST LIKE YOU DO WITH EVERYBODY ELSE THAT COMES IN HERE. AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE FORM TO SAY USA, USA, USA. THIS IS A UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND GUESS WHAT? WE ARE PART OF IT. AND WE HAVE DONE A LOT FOR THIS, THIS COUNTRY. SO RESPECT OUR MONTH AND OUR PEOPLE. THANK YOU. I'LL SPEAK ON THAT. MAYOR. BECAUSE I AGREE WITH THE TWO. I AGREE WITH THE TWO ON ONE COMMENT IN REGARDS TO YOU HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH 201, RIGHT? I AM REGISTERED, WELL, I'VE HAD PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT 201 AND NOT GETTING, GETTING THROUGH OR GETTING SERVICES LIKE THEY THOUGHT, LIKE THIS IS SOME OF THE STUFF WE COULD TALK ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE THAT WORKSHOP. YEAH. 211 IS IS PART. AND THEN THERE'S THE BREVARD HISPANIC CENTER TOO, RIGHT. THERE'S A LOT OF THERE'S A LOT OF I KNOW THAT WE HAVE GROWN AS AS A COMMUNITY WITH WE'RE VERY DIVERSE, AND I'M PROUD TO BE THE FIRST PUERTO RICAN AMERICAN MAYOR OF THIS GREAT CITY IN THE HISTORY OF THIS MAYOR. I'M PROUD THAT WE HAVE THE FIRST HAITIAN AMERICAN DEPUTY MAYOR IN THIS CITY. [01:35:06] AND AND THIS CITY IS VERY DIVERSE, AND WE WORK. CAN WE ALWAYS DO BETTER? ABSOLUTELY. BUT FROM WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE'VE DONE A LOT. YES, SIR. AND WE'VE DONE GREAT. AND A LOT, A LOT WAS ACCOMPLISHED BY SAM LOPEZ. THAT'S RIGHT. AND AND YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE AGREED WITH HIS, HIS ANTICS, BUT HE ALWAYS HAD A PURPOSE. HE DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE WITHOUT A PURPOSE. HE ALWAYS SPOKE WITH A PURPOSE. AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT MY MY FATHER WAS WAS SUPPORTIVE OF HIM AS WELL. I DIDN'T SEE EYE TO EYE WITH SAM, BUT I ALWAYS SAW HIS PURPOSE. RIGHT. SO WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER. PERHAPS, MADAME SHERMAN, WHAT WE CAN DO IS SHARE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IF WE DO NEED TRANSLATORS, NOT ONLY WITH HISPANICS, BUT WE'VE DISCUSSED EVEN THE HAITIAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, WE'VE DISCUSSED OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO TO HAVE THAT DIALOG. BECAUSE CERTAINLY THE POPULATION HAS INCREASED. AND WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT HOW WE CAN SERVE THESE PEOPLE IF THEY IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO COMMUNICATE. AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IN THIS GREAT NATION, WE ASSIMILATE TO ENGLISH, WE ASSIMILATE TO THIS GREAT NATION, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND THAT IS WHAT WHY WE ARE UNIQUE. OUT OF ANY OTHER NATION, WE'RE AMERICANS. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE ARE AMERICANS COMING. HERE WE COME FROM EVERYWHERE ELSE. BUT WE CAN COME HERE AND BECOME AMERICANS. I CAN'T GO TO ENGLAND AND BECOME ENGLISH. I CAN'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE AND BECOME WHAT THEY ARE AND ASSIMILATE TO BEING FRENCH. EVEN IF I ASSIMILATE TO THEIR LANGUAGE. IN AMERICA, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AN AMERICAN. AND I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS NATION. NEXT. NEXT SPEAKER. WELL, JUST ONE JUST ONE COMMENT, MAYOR. IF IN REGARDS TO IMPROVEMENT, ONE THING WE CAN LOOK AT, IF WE HAVE, WE MIGHT ALREADY BE DOING IT, I DON'T KNOW. MR. SHERMAN. MAKING SURE THAT, LIKE HOB AND BUKOWSKA ARE AWARE OF ALL THE JOB FAIRS. OKAY. BECAUSE IT MAY EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY. HISPANIC CENTER, EVERYBODY. I JUST NAMED TWO. SO IT'S ALL ABOUT EDUCATION. SO MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, I THINK. WHAT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE OUR JOB HERE. WE HAD A GREAT JOB FAIR THE OTHER SATURDAY. RIGHT. DID WE REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS? RIGHT. THOSE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT'S THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT'S THE COSCO ORGANIZATION. I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A FORM OF WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE. SO THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP. BUT THAT, THAT'S THAT'S CRITICAL. AND THAT MAY GENERATE SOME, SOME BILINGUAL WORK FOR OUR CITY. YES. CARRY ON. MA'AM, YOU HAD A QUESTION? WELL, NO. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? JUST SOME COMMENTS TO SHARE. OKAY, THEN CARRY ON. SIR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S A GREAT DISCUSSION. BUT I MUST SAY, I MEAN, YES, I'VE ARRIVED. PROBABLY NOT. WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS OVER LESS THAN THREE YEARS AGO TODAY, IF YOU CALL OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT NOW, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO IF YOU IF YOU SPEAK ENGLISH, IF YOU SPEAK SPANISH, YOU HAVE AN OPTION. IF YOU SPEAK HAITIAN CREOLE, YOU HAVE AN OPTION. VERY PROUD OF THAT. SO THERE IS I MEAN, WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME IMPROVEMENT RECOGNIZING THE DIVERSITY OF THIS GREAT CITY. I THINK WE WE CAN DO BETTER. ALL POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALL, COMES THROUGH. I KNOW FOR A FACT THEY HAVE HAITIAN POLICE OFFICER CREOLE THAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAVE BEEN. THERE'S A COUPLE AT LEAST THAT HAVE BEEN THEY SHARED WITH ME THE VOLUME OF CALLS. THEY KNOW IF THEY OWN THE IF THEY ON DUTY THOSE CALLS REPORTING TO THEM AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY. SO I MEAN, AND I THINK PROBABLY THE SAME FOR SPANISH. SO I'D SAY WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO IMPROVE. BUT I THINK WE'VE WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT. WELL, THANKS FOR SAYING THAT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE HAITIAN AMERICAN OFFICERS. AMOUR, WAS ON A CALL AND I WENT IN AND COINCIDENTALLY IT WAS A SPANISH INDIVIDUAL, SO I TRANSLATED IN SPANISH, BUT HE WAS THERE. JUST WANT TO THANK YOU. CARRY ON MA'AM. OH YES SIR. SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE TO DEPUTY MAYOR'S POINT TO TRY TO IMPROVE OUR POSITION AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ANSWERING THE NEEDS OF [01:40:04] OUR COMMUNITY AS THEY COME IN TO US. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE TEAM DID WAS THEY REACHED OUT TO ALL STAFF TO FIND OUT WHO SPOKE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND TO CREATE A LIST OF VOLIN VOLUNTEER TRANSLATORS. SO WE HAVE AN ACTIVE LIST OF EMPLOYEES WHO ARE KNOWN AND OR HAVE BEEN USED. WE HAVE USED WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO OUR TRANSLATOR VOLUNTEERS, AND THEY HAVE ACTIVELY HELPED US WHEN WE'VE HAD DIFFERENT RESIDENTS TO SERVE. NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK SPANISH ON THAT LIST, BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO SPEAK CREOLE. WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE PERSON WHO SPEAKS PORTUGUESE. WE HAVE RUSSIAN, TAGALOG, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS SIGN LANGUAGE, AMERICAN SIGN LANGUAGE. SO WE HAVE HAVE THOSE COVERED. YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED THE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT A BIT. AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING MORE DIVERSITY GROWING IN THOSE RANKS AS WELL AS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. BUT WE HAVE A FULL TRANSLATION. WE HAVE WE HAVE WAYS TO GET TO TRANSLATORS FOR ANY LANGUAGE WE NEED IN ANY KIND OF OUR, OUR SERVICES THERE. MY PUBLIC DO WE HAVE A TOWN? I DON'T KNOW THAT OFFHAND, BUT I'M SURE WE CAN GET IT BECAUSE IT'S ALL THE LANGUAGES THAT ARE COVERED. MY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR KINDLY REMINDS ME THAT HE SPEAKS SPANISH, AND HE HELPS WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS CALLS WHEN THEY COME IN, SO I APPRECIATE HIM FOR THAT. AND ALSO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SHARE THAT RECENTLY WE INSTALLED A NEW A CHAT BOT ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE. IT'S IT SAYS ASK PALM BAY. IF YOU CLICK ON IT AND IT CAN TRANSLATE TO I THINK IT'S 70 DIFFERENT LANGUAGES AND IF YOU ASK IT TO SPEAK A LANGUAGE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY FLIP INTO WHATEVER THAT THAT LANGUAGE IS AND HELP WITH THAT AS WELL. SO WE WE'VE MADE STRIDES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO BETTER AND WE CAN DO MORE. BUT THOSE ARE DEFINITELY SOME OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE HAD GOING ON. SO THANK YOU, MA'AM I APPRECIATE THAT. NEXT SPEAKER DEPUTY MAYOR, THIS THIS WAS THE LAST SPEAKER. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE ON NEW BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER ONE THAT WE MOVED UP AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. [NEW BUSINESS:] MADAM SHERMAN, I THANK YOU, MAYOR, TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM ON THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT PROCEEDS AND THE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY. I'M GOING TO ASK OUR ASSISTANT COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, ED BERARDI, TO PRESENT THE ITEM. THANK YOU. MA'AM. WELCOME, MISS. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. SO IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME, I'M NOT GOING TO READ THE ENTIRE SUMMARY. I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS. COUNCIL HAD WENT AHEAD AND GIVEN US GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION TO PUT OUT A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS FOR THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT PROCEEDS GRANT. WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT OUT THE REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS, REQUEST FOR OPIOID SETTLEMENT GRANTS. BACK IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, WE DID RECEIVE NINE PROGRAMS FROM FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES. OUR EVALUATION TEAM LOOKED OVER THE PROGRAMS AND WE WENT OVER SCHEDULE A AND SCHEDULE B TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE IN LINE WITH WHAT? SCHEDULE A AND SCHEDULE B COVERED, WHICH IS PREVENTION, TREATMENT, AND OTHER STRATEGIES. OUT OF THE FOUR AGENCIES THAT APPLIED, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THREE OF THE PROGRAMS. THERE ARE SOME AGENCIES HERE TO SPEAK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BASED ON THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU RECEIVED AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS OF EBS RIGHT NOW AT THIS TIME? NO QUESTIONS OTHER THAN I AGREE. SOME SOME OF THE APPLICANTS HIT SOME MARKS, BUT NOT ALL MARKS IN MY OPINION. SO I'M ACTUALLY EXCITED THAT WE GOT TO THIS POINT. BECAUSE THIS STARTED BEFORE I WAS EVEN ON COUNCIL, BEFORE MOST OF US WERE EVEN HERE. SO THE FACT THAT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU EVERYBODY WHO APPLIED. BUT I'M EXCITED, MAYOR. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? YEAH. MR. MAYOR. YEAH, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ABOUT THE LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT SOME OF THESE, THESE INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS REACH. YOU MEAN THE SERVING WE HAVE? YEAH, WE HAVE TWO WE HAVE $261,000 AVAILABLE. AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, OPERATION NEW HOPE ARE APPLYING TO TREAT TEN CLIENTS. OPERATION SAFE TREATMENT SERVICES, SIX CLIENTS. NOW, BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION IS TRYING TO REACH OUT TO 120 YOUTH. WHICH IS GOOD, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS A HOPEFULLY AS A PREVENTIVE MEASURE. [01:45:04] BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, A GREATER REACH WITH THIS $261,000. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THIS MONEY USED FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR PROGRAMS TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF OUR HOMELESS WHO ARE HOMELESS BECAUSE OF OPIOID ABUSE AND NONE OF THESE NONE OF THESE APPLICANTS ARE GEARED TOWARDS TREATING, YOU KNOW, THE ADDICTED, OPIOID ADDICTED, HOMELESS. SO I LIKE TO SEE A GREATER USE OF THAT MONEY. NO. AND I SEE YOUR ARGUMENT, SIR. I AND I CONCUR. THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I LOOKED AT, WAS THE 120 YOUTH THAT STRIKE MY HEART. AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS GREAT, BUT YOU YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN, AND AND IT'S WARRANTED FOR QUESTION. DEPUTY MAYOR, ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR, I THINK IT'S A GOOD, GOOD ARGUMENT. MR.. MR. WEINBERG BROUGHT FORWARD. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION AS WELL, BUT I MUST SAY HIGHLIGHT BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION. I WAS SUPER IMPRESSED WITH THEIR APPLICATION, WITH THE CONTENTS AND THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT WHAT WHAT IS INCLUDED? THE DETAIL LEVEL. VERY IMPRESSED WITH THAT. I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH MISS SHERMAN. I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED YOU TALK ABOUT THE HOMELESS. CONSIDER THE CONSIDERATION OF A HOMELESS COMMUNITY. HOW COULD THAT BE OUR TARGET? BECAUSE THIS IS AN ONGOING. THIS MONEY HOPEFULLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO COME IN FOR 20 YEARS. YEAH 20 YEARS. SO THIS IS THIS IS GREAT. I THINK IT'S A GUARANTEED SOURCE OF REVENUE. FUNDING WHERE WE CAN DO A LOT. I'M EVEN THINKING THAT ALL HOMELESS AND POTENTIALLY. HOW COULD WE POSSIBLY TIE ALL HOUSING, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY. LACK OF OF, YOU KNOW, THEREOF. RIGHT. SO FOR, FOR FUTURE, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS. SO HOW CAN MAYBE LOOKED AT THE SCOPE SOMEHOW TIE IT ALL TOGETHER? SUBSTANCE ABUSE. BECAUSE IT'S ALL RELATED, RIGHT? YEAH. IT'S MENTAL HEALTH. YEAH. MENTAL HEALTH. IT'S ALL RELATED TO ME. LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN TIE IT ALL. ALL THREE TOGETHER. AND THAT THAT WAS THE WHOLE. THAT WAS OUR OBJECTIVE BACK IN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ARPA FUND. YOU KNOW, IF YOU RECALL, I WAS I PUT THE ARGUMENT WE SHOULD PUT MUCH MORE MONEY. AND I AGREE, MAYOR, I I'M STILL I WOULD SAY IT. I KNOW IT IS WHAT IT IS. WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE. AT THIS POINT. I DON'T THINK WE GOT, YOU KNOW GOOD YOU KNOW, RETURN AS FAR AS NUMBER OF UNITS. BUT I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY DO SOME SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL. LOOKED AT THE SCOPE AGAIN, MAYBE NOT THIS TIME AROUND. WE'LL JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS NOW. BUT LET'S REVISIT THAT SCOPE FOR NEXT YEAR AND PUT IT OUT THERE, CRAFTED IN SUCH A WAY WHERE WE CAN TOUCH ON, ON THIS, YOU KNOW, AREAS. WELL, DEPUTY MAYOR, I'M RIGHT ALONG WITH YOU. AND I HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY MANAGER. I ALWAYS SAW THIS AS A FUNDING SOURCE FOR THAT MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO THE HOMELESS. I'VE ALWAYS MENTIONED THAT EVEN BEFORE ARPA FUNDING THAT WE HAD THIS THIS OPPORTUNITY. SO I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER. BUT IS THERE A POINT WHERE WE COULD ENHANCE IT NOW, OR WOULD THAT JEOPARDIZE EVERYTHING WE'VE WORKED ON SO FAR? THAT'S MY QUESTION. WELL, JUST. APPLICANT. OH. I'M SORRY. YEAH. MY FAULT. WELL, CERTAINLY, IF YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE COMPLETELY CHANGE OUR APPROACH OR STRATEGY, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THIS PROCESS WOULD KIND OF COME TO A STOP AND WE WOULD RE REDO EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW, RE SOLICIT PROPOSALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW, I MY RECOMMENDATION FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THIS FOR IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT, TO DO THAT FOR THE FUTURE YEARS OF FUNDING. BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF YEARS STILL TO COME, BUT IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU ALL. IT'S YOUR DIRECTION. UNDERSTOOD. WELL, WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANTS HERE NOW. AND SO I WANT TO I WANT TO AFFORD THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING. I GUESS THEY'RE HERE AS WELL. BUT I HOPE THE STAFF IS LISTENING TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING. BECAUSE WE WOULD WANT THIS TO BE LOOKED AT DIFFERENTLY. THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT IS A SOURCE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS AGREED ON. I NEVER HEARD ANY CONTENTION WHEN I BROUGHT THAT UP, THAT IT SHOULD BE A FUNDING SOURCE THAT WE COULD TACKLE WITH THE HOMELESS ISSUES. BECAUSE WHAT'S THE ROOT OF HOMELESSNESS? RIGHT. AND SO THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE'S A HUGE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT TO IT. SO THIS IS A FUNDING SOURCE THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE THAT COUNSELING AND MOREOVER, BUILD THE PATHWAY INTO [01:50:08] SOLVING THAT HOMELESS HAVING A DWELLING PLACE. RIGHT. THAT SHOULD BE A PATHWAY SOMEHOW. BUT ANYWAY, IT IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE IN SOME RESPECT. OKAY. I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS AT THIS POINT. DEPUTY MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS PRESENTATION? YEAH. OH. YES, MA'AM. DO YOU HAVE TO? I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE PLANNING TO DO. WE WEREN'T PLANNING TO DO FORMAL PRESENTATIONS, BUT WE CAN. HOWEVER YOU WANT TO HANDLE IT, IF YOU WANT TO, JUST SEE WHO'S IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE CAN BRING THEM UP. OR IF YOU JUST WANT TO, THEN CARRY ON, MA'AM. SO IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU JUST WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON IT OR IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO CARRY ON, GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE PRESENTATION. NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THERE WERE NO FORMAL PRESENTATIONS SCHEDULED BY THE APPLICANTS. THEY'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS OR IF YOU DESIRE TO HEAR FROM THEM. OKAY. YES. SO LET'S HEAR FROM THEM. YEAH. WHAT WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WELL, HEARING HERE IN COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, I HAVE TO AGREE. WE WANT TO CHECK TO SEE HOW MUCH OF EACH DOLLAR IS GETTING TO THE END USER AND NOT TO STAFF OR NOT TO PURCHASE OTHER AMENITIES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG ON THAT. SO I WOULD SAY ALL THOSE THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY APPROVED OR I GUESS WERE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. WE CAN QUESTION ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH OF EACH DOLLAR IS GOING TO THE END USER. HENCE THE 100 YOUTH OR THE HOWEVER MANY ADULTS. AND THE OTHER QUESTION, I GUESS WILL BE FOR EACH RECOMMENDED STAFF IS, I MEAN, NOT RECOMMENDED STAFF RECOMMENDED APPLICANT IS ARE WE GETTING LIKE OUR ANY OTHER PROGRAMS GIVING NARCAN TO ANY OF THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTIONS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE SEEING. I'VE TALKED TO MULTIPLE CHIEFS ABOUT IT, WHERE SOME, SOME, SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FACING ADDICTIONS WILL PURPOSELY JUST GO AT IT, AND KNOWING THAT ONCE THEY'RE RESPONDED TO, THEY'LL HAVE A NARCAN TO BRING THEM BACK. THAT'S THE REAL THING THAT'S GOING ON. SO THOSE ARE JUST TWO MAIN QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IS GETTING TO THE END USER AND WHERE IS THE REST OF THE DOLLARS GOING. AND ARE WE PROVIDING ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDING NARCAN FOR INDIVIDUALS. SO AND I GET THAT. IF YOU SEE WHAT THEY'RE PROVIDING, I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS AMENDING IT, LIKE, TO HOW HOW MANY MORE CAN YOU PROVIDE COUNSELING AS AN EXAMPLE, COUNSELING CLIENTS FOR 15 TOTAL RECOVERY RESOURCES LINKAGES. SO YOU WANT TO LOOK THOSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING. SO YOU WANT TO LET'S LET'S TACKLE THE ONES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING FIRST. AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. OKAY. SO IF YOU CALL UP THE ONES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING AND LET THEM BRIEF US. SO THE FIRST ORGANIZATION IS BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION AND MR.. I'M SO SORRY. STANLEY BRIZ IS HERE TO SPEAK TONIGHT ON TWO OF THE PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE POSITIVE CHOICE, POSITIVE LIFE AND OPIOID USE DISORDER TREATMENT AND RECOVERY SUPPORT. BOTH OF THESE PROGRAMS FALL UNDER SCHEDULE B FOR ELIGIBILITY. HELLO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, FOR ALLOWING US THE OPPORTUNITY. AS I MENTIONED, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING PRESENTED OR READY FOR PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY SPEAK TO THE NUMBERS FOR SURE. AND THEN SOME OF THE DETAILS. SO FOR PREVENTION WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING AT SERVING 120 YOUTH. THIS IS MOVING INTO LIGHT INITIATIVE. THIS IS THE POSITIVE CHOICES. POSITIVE OKAY. THIS THIS IS OUR OUR YOUTH RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YEAH. THIS IS. I LIKE THIS ONE. LOOKING AT SERVING THE COMMUNITY CENTERS, WE ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING THIS PROGRAM IN COMMUNITY CENTERS AT MELBOURNE. AND WE JUST STARTED AT TITUSVILLE. PALM BAY IS NOTABLY ABSENT AT THE MOMENT, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS IS RECOMMENDED AND CONTINUES TO GET FUNDED. WE'RE TARGETING TWO COMMUNITY CENTERS SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE BELIEVE IN MAXIMIZING THE DOLLAR. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO SPREAD TO OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS WITH THE EXISTING STAFF WE HAVE, NONE OF THIS IS NECESSARILY GOING INTO NEW STAFF. WE'RE USING IT TO LEVERAGE EXISTING STAFF TO EXPAND THIS SERVICE. I REALLY, REALLY ENJOY THE FRUITS OF LABOR THAT COME OUT OF THIS. WE REALLY GET TO SEE THE YOUTH FROM A TRUE PREVENTION STANDARD GET RESILIENCY. THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE DIFFERENT WORKSHOPS. WITH VOCATIONAL TRAININGS. WE'RE BRINGING IN DIFFERENT ART EXPERIENCES. [01:55:01] ANYTHING THAT SPEAKS TO THOSE SPECIFIC YOUTH TO REALLY HELP THEM WITH EMOTIONAL REGULATION, SO THAT WHEN THEY'RE PRESENTED WITH A CHOICE OF USING SUBSTANCES, THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO FALL BACK ON. WE'RE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL YOUTH THAT WE SERVE. ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS REALLY HAD A HIGHER NUMBER. I WOULD SAY, AS WELL, THE TREATMENT WE WERE LOOKING AT. YES. HAVING THAT MAXIMUM. WELL, I SAY 15 CLIENTS WITH THE DIRECT SERVICES, BUT I ALSO INCLUDED THAT APPLICATION 100 CLIENTS FOR THE RESOURCES, VOCATIONAL TRAINING AND ADDITIONAL LINKAGES TO SERVICES. WE'RE SEEING THAT A LOT. I DO ACTUALLY, ONCE A WEEK, GO INTO THE ACTUAL CLINICS WHERE THEY'RE RECEIVING TREATMENT AND PROVIDE THAT MYSELF. AND WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO NOW FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL PALM BAY CLIENTS THAT WE NEED TO EXPAND, EXTEND THAT SERVICE, THOSE SERVICES TO OR WITH. AND WHAT'S HELPING THEM IS HAVING JUST THAT HAND UP, NOT A HAND OUT THAT'S HELPING THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WORKING THROUGH THEIR ADDICTION. WE ALSO DO NARCAN DISTRIBUTION AS WELL. WE'VE JUST SIGNED UP WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO BECOME A DISTRIBUTOR OF THAT SO WE'RE NOT JUST GETTING IT FROM OTHER PLACES. WE'RE LEVERAGING WHO HAS IT. WE ALSO WORK WITH MS AS WELL, BUT IT'S GREAT TO HAVE OUR OWN STOCK OF THAT AS WELL. TO SPEAK TO WHAT YOU HAD MENTIONED, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AS WELL. GETTING NARCAN IS NOT A PLEASANT EXPERIENCE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCING AN OVERDOSE. THEY CAN'T NARCAN THEMSELVES. IT TAKES A BYSTANDER WHO HAS KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO USE IT. SO OUR MOVE INTO LIGHT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEING RECOMMENDED TODAY, BUT THAT ALSO LOOKS AT FOCUSING ON AT LEAST 100 COMMUNITY MEMBERS. BUT ALSO 100. I WAS A BOY, 100 PEOPLE THAT WE CAN HELP TRAIN AS WELL INTO UTILIZING IT, WHETHER IT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT OR COMMUNITY BUSINESSES, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE REALLY SEEING THAT IMPACT. SO WHEN YOU SPEAK TO HOMELESSNESS OR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BATTLING ADDICTION, IT'S THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE SAYING, HEY, I FOUND THEM IN THE BATHROOM OR I FOUND THEM IN FRONT. WHAT CAN I DO? SO WE'RE TRAINING BUSINESSES THROUGH THAT ONE AS WELL. AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON HOW TO UTILIZE THAT WHICH TAKES A BURDEN OFF OF YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE. SO EXPLAIN TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU INCORPORATE THIS WITH THE TED WHEELOCK COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTER. SHARE THAT VISION WITH ME. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM AS WELL FOR LIKE ONE OFF EVENTS. BUT WE WANT THIS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS REGULARLY. SO AT THE OTHER COMMUNITY CENTERS, AFTER SCHOOL AND DURING THE SUMMER, WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR PREVENTION STAFF BASED AT THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS HELPING THE YOUTH WITH THOSE WORKSHOPS. IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT DRUG EDUCATION. THE KIDS KNOW THAT ALREADY. THEY HAVE CELL PHONES. THEY CAN LOOK UP WHAT DRUGS DO THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO UTILIZE OR NOT. BUT WE REALLY FOCUS ON POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT WITH THEM. AND THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO THOSE FIVE C'S OF POSITIVE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT COMPETENCE, CARING, COMPASSION, CHARACTER AND BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CAN BUILD UPON THOSE. SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT. WE BRING IN INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELVES TO HELP MENTOR AND SPEAK TO THEM, AND WE WANT TO HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS GOING AT THOSE COMMUNITY CENTERS REGULARLY SO THAT THERE IS SOMETHING THE KIDS CAN EXPECT. I THINK THAT'S KEY. RIGHT. I LOVE THAT. EXCUSE ME. YOU MENTIONED OUR SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, SO I LOVE THAT EXPANSION. RIGHT. I ALSO ENJOYED THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY THE COMMUNITY CENTERS, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PALM BAY YOUTH SPORTS. YES. RIGHT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS KEY. NOW I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. MAYBE OFF TOPIC, BUT YOU WERE WITH ECKERD KIDS AT ONE POINT. I WAS. YEAH. I ACTUALLY HAD BOTH OF THOSE JOBS AT THE SAME TIME. SO WHILE I WAS WITH ECKERD, I WAS WITH THEM FOR 14 YEARS. TWO YEARS BEFORE I LEFT, I REALLY TOOK THE BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION AND TOOK IT FROM JUST BEING A COMMITTEE TO BEING A 501 C3. YES, SIR. AND SO. YEAH. YEAH. YOUR REPUTATION FOLLOWS YOU, SIR. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR YOUTH. THANK YOU. I KNOW OF YOUR WORK WITH ECHO KIDS, SO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. AND THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH US IN THE PAST AS WELL. WE CONTINUE TO DO SO. I'M PART OF THE. I ALSO OVERSEE THE OPIOID MISUSE TASK FORCE FOR THE COUNTY. SO BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION. A LOT OF THE OTHER PROVIDERS ALSO PARTICIPATE IN THAT. BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS. BREVARD COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL, AND SEVERAL OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. SO WE REALLY DO HAVE A PULSE ON WHAT'S GOING ON. WE LOOK TO SUPPORT. WE DO IT TOGETHER. I APPRECIATE THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? MR. MAYOR, IF I MAY, THERE'S THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS ME IN THE STAFF REPORT. IT GOES ON. APPROXIMATELY 80% OF THE TOTAL FUNDS WILL GO TOWARDS SALARY AND BENEFITS, AND APPROXIMATELY 53% OF THE FUNDS WILL GO SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THE SALARY OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHO WILL PROVIDE PART TIME COUNSELING SERVICES. AND APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THE FUNDS WILL GO TOWARDS SUPPLIES. THAT CONCERNS ME. IT ALSO CONCERNS ME. I MEAN, I LIKE THE IDEA OF TREATING, YOU KNOW, OF REACHING OUT TO 120 AT RISK YOUTH, PERHAPS, AND HOPEFULLY PREVENT THEM FROM ABUSING OPIOIDS IN THE FUTURE. [02:00:01] BUT BUT THE REST OF THIS AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WAS CONCERNED WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT IT TREATS YOUR OPIOID OPIOID USE DISORDER TREATMENT AND RECOVERY, REQUESTING $75,000. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, A COUNT OF CLIENTS TARGETED WILL BE 15 CLIENTS. AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, EXTENSIVE PROPOSAL. AND IT IT COULD BE A LONG STANDING THING. BUT AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS MONEY YOU KNOW, REACH OUT AND, YOU KNOW, GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK, REACH OUT TO THE LARGEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE POSSIBLE. THAT'S WHY I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE WITH THE WITH THE YOUTH PORTION OF THIS. BUT THE REST OF IT REALLY CONCERNS ME. YEAH. AND. YES, SIR. AND I WANT TO TAG TEAM ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS I'M GIVING EVERYONE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. BUT SO PROGRAMS LIKE COURT KINGS AS AN EXAMPLE, THAT DIRECTLY IMPACT OUR YOUTH, THAT REALLY HELP NOT ONLY WITH THE MENTAL HEALTH, BUT GO A LONG WAY TO THAT DRUG PREVENTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S NOT ABOUT GOOGLE. IT'S ABOUT GETTING THEM OCCUPIED IN ACTIVITIES LIKE SPORTS AND STUFF. SO TO TAG TEAM THAT, THAT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER BECAUSE 82% TO GO TOWARDS SALARIES AND BENEFITS, THAT THAT IS AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT. WELL, WHAT WE CAN TELL YOU IS WHAT WE'LL ANSWER BOTH THOSE. HE ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TREATMENT PROGRAM, I BELIEVE. AND THEN YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PREVENTION PIECE AS WELL. SO TO GO BACK TO THE TREATMENT PIECE, IF YOU LOOK ALSO ADDITIONALLY IN ADDITION TO THE CLIENT SERVICES. SO ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH 10 TO 15 INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE OPIATE USE DISORDER, THEY'RE NOT SERVED AND THEN BOUNCED OUT THE NEXT DAY. THAT IS A LONG TERM PIECE OF WORK THAT GOES INTO ACTUALLY PROVIDING COUNSELING SERVICES FOR THEM. AND IT TAKES HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS OF WEEKLY SERVICES. SO SOME OF THEM, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU DEAL WITH METHADONE CLINICS, ET CETERA. THEY'LL HAVE TO COME IN EVERY DAY. SOME HAVE TO COME IN DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY PROGRESS IN THEIR TREATMENT MAYBE TWICE A WEEK, OR THEN THEY CAN PROGRESS TO MAYBE ONCE A WEEK IF THEY GET TAKE HOMES. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE ALSO ADDED IN THAT WE HAVE 100 PALM BAY RESIDENTS THAT GET SERVED, THAT THAT CLINIC IS THE ONLY ONE IN PALM BAY THAT PROVIDES THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENT. THEY'VE ALSO ADDED SUBOXONE AS WELL INTO IT AS WELL, SO THEY HAVE MORE OPTIONS FOR THE CLIENTS. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALSO GIVING THOSE. THESE ARE THESE ARE YOUTH THAT ARE YOU KNOW THE TREATMENT. ONE IS FOR ADULTS. SO I'M ANSWERING THAT PIECE FIRST. SO IN ADDITION TO THE 15 CLIENTS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING THE COUNSELING SERVICES TO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO HAVE A PERSON THAT'S QUALIFIED TO PROVIDE THAT TREATMENT. IT'S CONSIDERABLY MORE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE ALSO PUT INTO THE BUDGET, WHICH I THINK IS SIGNIFICANT, IS TREATING THE ONES THAT, OKAY, THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE COUNSELING FROM THAT INDIVIDUAL, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE OTHER RESOURCES, THE VOCATIONAL TRAINING WHICH IT TAKES MORE THAN JUST GIVING SOMEONE METHADONE OR SUBOXONE AND SAYING HAVE A GOOD DAY. IT HAS TO HAVE THE COUNSELING AND THE RESOURCE COMPONENTS IN THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE CHILDREN TOO. SO WE'VE PROVIDED SOMETHING ELSE IN THAT BUDGET THAT HELPS THE CHILDREN GET RESOURCES AS WELL. SUBSTANCE USE IS CYCLICAL. IT IS MULTIGENERATIONAL. AND PREVENTION CAN ALSO PREFER CAN ALSO OCCUR IN A TREATMENT SETTING, WHICH IS REALLY HOW THAT'S WRITTEN, WHICH I CAN GO ON AND ON ABOUT. ON THE PREVENTION SIDE, WE ALSO DO PARTNER WITH AGENCIES JUST LIKE THAT. WE'VE PARTNERED WITH CORK KINGS IN THE PAST. LET'S GO BACK TO THE COUNSELING SIDE. SURE. BACK TO THE TREATMENT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A CLEARER PICTURE FOR COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. YOU KNOW, IT'S PROFESSIONAL COUNSELING, RIGHT? YES. RIGHT ALONG THAT LINE. ARE THERE ANY EXPOSURES TO ANY RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES, ANY PASTORS, ANY YOUTH PASTORS? SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE COUNSELING SIDE FOR THE TREATMENT PROGRAM, ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR OUR YOUTH. FOR OUR YOUTH. ARE OUR YOUTH IN PREVENTION? SO WE BELIEVE IN TAKING ALL THE DOMAINS. SO DEFINITELY FAITH BASED WORKS FOR FOR INDIVIDUALS AS WELL. WE GO TO THE VOCATIONAL SIDE AS WELL. FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING IN THAT REGARD FOR MENTORSHIPS AND FINDING FOR MORE EXPANDED OPPORTUNITIES. FOR THAT, WE GO TO THE EDUCATIONAL SIDE AND HAVE SPEAKERS FROM FIT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE. WE HAVE TO BE MULTIFACETED BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY RESPONDS TO THE SAME STIMULI. RIGHT? UNDERSTOOD. WITH FAMILIES. BUT THAT IS WHAT COALITION WORK IS ABOUT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE FAITH BASED INVOLVED. YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE PRIVATE SECTOR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. YES. QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YES, IF I MAY, ONE MORE QUESTION. ARE YOU A 500 AND 13C YES YOU ARE. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANKS. NEXT SPEAKER MADAM EVES. THE NEXT SPEAKER THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE IS OPERATION NEW HOPE, PASTOR JARVIS. OH, PASTOR JARVIS IS HERE. HE WAS HIDING IN THE BACK. I DIDN'T EVEN SEE HIM. HOW YOU DOING, SIR? DOING WELL. PASTOR. EVERYBODY DOING. [02:05:02] I'M PASTOR JARVIS WYCHE. I'M WITH OPERATION NEW HOPE. WE. I AM SO GLAD THAT I SAT IN THE BACK AND THROUGH THE WHOLE THING. YOU GUYS HAVE SOME PRETTY EVENTFUL CITY MEETINGS HERE. SO I WANT TO JUMP RIGHT IN AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED AND STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE WHERE OPERATION NEW HOPE BEEN AROUND 25 YEARS. I'VE BEEN AROUND 25 YEARS OUT OF JACKSONVILLE. THEY'VE BEEN IN BREVARD COUNTY. HERE WE ARE THE ONLY REENTRY CENTER OR REENTRY ORGANIZATION EVER IN BREVARD COUNTY FUNDED BY THE STATE. WE ARE IN TAMPA, JACKSONVILLE, ORLANDO, SAINT PETE, AND LOOKING TO MOVE SOUTH. WE LATER ON, WE PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS AND HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. WE PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELING FOR THOSE FOR UP TO A YEAR. OKAY. WE ALSO PAY FOR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOR UP TO THE FIRST THREE MONTHS. THEY THEY GET ONCE THEY COME THROUGH OUR THREE WEEK PROGRAM, THEY RECEIVE $100 STIPEND EVERY WEEK. THEY RECEIVE HELP WITH A BUS PASS. THEY RECEIVE HOUSING, THEY GET A DREAM TEAM, WHAT I LIKE TO CALL A DREAM TEAM. THAT'S THEIR MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST. THAT'S THEIR CASE MANAGER. THAT'S THEIR JOB COACH. THERE'S SOMEBODY ASSIGNED TO THEM THAT THEIR JOB IS TO FIND THEM A JOB WITHIN 30 DAYS. WE WORK WITH PROBATION. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT $75,000 OR A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN IT IS, THAT HAS TO BE A PALM BAY RESIDENT. YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOMEBODY BEING SERVICED A YEAR FOR THAT 75, 70, $400, DOLLARS OR WHATEVER IT IS. THAT'S A WHOLE YEAR THAT WE'RE SERVING SOMEONE, AND IT NEEDED TO BE IN PALM BAY RIGHT TO TO TOUCH PALM BAY DOLLARS. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE'RE DOING. WE ALSO HELP THEM WITH THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE. WE'RE ABLE TO TO KIND OF FAST FORWARD THAT TRACK AND DO THAT. AND WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE THAT WHAT QUALIFIES AND DISQUALIFIES A PERSON FROM BEING IN OUR PROGRAM. THE ONLY THING THAT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO, SOMEONE THAT HAS BEEN ARRESTED, THEY CAN HAVE SPENT THE NIGHT, THEY COULD HAVE WENT TO PRISON OR JAIL. WHAT WOULD DISQUALIFY A PERSON IS, IS IF THEY HAVE A SEX OFFENSE OR THEY HAVE A FIRST DEGREE MURDER, BUT DRUG CHARGES, VARIOUS OTHER CHARGES. WE ARE WE ARE THERE FOR THEM AND WE HAVE SPEAKERS AND ORGANIZATIONS COMING IN. WE PARTNER WITH BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION AND OTHERS WHO COME INTO OUR CLASSES. THEY HAVE TO COME TO CLASS FOR THREE WEEKS, 9 TO 9 A.M. TO 3 P.M., MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND EVERY FRIDAY 9 TO 1230, BECAUSE THERE'S A GRADUATION EVERY WEEK WITH LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO HOLD COUNCIL TO COME OUT AND TOUR SOMETIME. AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THOSE CLIENTS FROM PALM BAY? WE HAVE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT ARE MOSTLY, YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S CRAZY. THE THE THE BULK OF THAT, WE SERVICE THE WHOLE COUNTY, BUT THE BULK OF OUR PEOPLE ARE IN PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE. THE BULK OF OUR TRANSITION PROVIDERS ARE IN PALM BAY AND MELBOURNE. OKAY. SO? SO THEY GET ON THE BUS, THEY RIDE THE BUS, SOME OF THEIR TRANSITION HOUSES. ONE OF THEM IS HERE, SAFE PLACE, SOME OTHER ONES, THEY DRIVE THEM THERE. OKAY. AND AND THEY AND THEY TAKE THEM BACK. OKAY. WE ALSO OFFER GED AND LOGISTICS PROGRAMS FOR FREE. WE OFFER ALSO ABLE TO SEND THEM TO SCHOOL FOR THEIR CDL AND VARIOUS THINGS. SO WE APPRECIATE THE FUNDING FROM PALM BAY. WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE FALL THROUGH THE CRACKS, BUT THAT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. SO THAT'S BEING PROVIDED THE 80% SUCCESS RATE OF. YES, SIR. THAT'S STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT'S STRAIGHT ACROSS THE BOARD. WE'VE ONLY BEEN HERE 16 MONTHS IN BREVARD. I'VE BEEN RUNNING REENTRY PROGRAMS HERE FOR UP TO FIVE YEARS. BUT OPERATION NEW HOPE, WHEN WE DIDN'T RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE STATE LAST YEAR, OPERATION NEW HOPE PICKED US UP. THEY COULD HAVE JUST WENT STRAIGHT TO TAMPA. BUT THEY THOUGHT ABOUT BREVARD. THEY BACKGROUND CHECKED ME. YEAH. AND THEY THEY THOUGHT ABOUT BREVARD. AND NOW WE'RE HERE. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT. BUT, PASTOR JARVIS, LET ME TAKE A MOMENT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THIS COMMUNITY. I KNOW COCOA. I KNOW YOUR REPUTATION GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND IN YEARS PAST. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IN YEARS PAST, CALVARY CHAPEL PARTNERED WITH YOU AND STREET BASKETBALL AND. YEAH. AND GOOD BARBECUE. I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, MAN. YEAH. THE BARBECUE, THE CALVARY CHAPEL, MAN. THAT'S ME. MAN. YEAH. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. SO. SO THAT SPEAKS HIGHLY OF OF WHO YOU ARE AS A SERVANT AND WHAT YOU MEAN TO OUR COMMUNITY. SO I WAS REALLY GLAD TO SEE YOU SITTING BACK THERE. I WAS GOING TO CALL YOU OUT. I'M LIKE, HE'S HIDING. I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU HERE FOR? YEAH, OKAY. HE WAS HIDING NOTHING. I DIDN'T SEE HIM. OH, I'VE SEEN HIM. I HAD TO PULL HIM UP ON ON, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M LIKE, YEAH, RIGHT PERSON. BUT BUT I SAY THAT TO SAY THIS JUST WANTED TO CERTAINLY TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. [02:10:09] AND IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR SERVICE IS REALLY, TRULY WHAT WE WE WE'RE HOPING FOR THIS MONEY TO DO. IN TERMS OF THE, ALL THE SERVICES, DIFFERENT ASPECT THE HOUSING COMPONENT, ALTHOUGH IS NOT LISTED ON YOUR DOCUMENT HERE. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU CAN ONLY SQUEEZE SO MUCH IN FOR. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. OKAY. SO I WAS LOOKING AT IT. IT'S ON THERE. TRANSITIONAL GOOD. GOOD TRANSITIONAL HOUSING I WAS LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT PARAGRAPH BUT BUT GREAT. SO SO GOOD. WELL, THANK. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE A PARTICULAR QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. ANY COUNCILMAN WEINBERGER. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, THANK YOU. YEAH. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, OPIOID ADDICTS. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO TREAT TREAT THEM TO GET THEM OFF YOUR OPIOID ADDICTION? SO WHEN WHEN WE PAY FOR THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR WE PAY FOR THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES, WE REFER THEM TO PLACES LIKE CIRCLES OF CARE. WE REFER THEM TO DIFFERENT PLACES AS WELL AS SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY IN DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAMS. WHILE COMING TO OUR PROGRAM, THEY'RE DUAL ALIGNING AND THEY COME TO OUR PROGRAM WHILE THEY'RE A PART OF THAT. LIKE WE THE REASON WHY OPERATION NEW HOPE THEIR THEIR BANG IS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND PEOPLE AREN'T READY. PEOPLE JUST CAN'T GET OUT OF JAIL OR PRISON OR COME OFF THE STREETS AND JUST GET BACK TO WORK. THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME. THERE'S SOME MENTAL HEALTH THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN. THERE'S SOME SOME COUNSELING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THERE'S SOME FAMILY REUNIFICATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THEY DON'T HAVE AN ID, THEY NEED A DRIVER'S LICENSE. THEY THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE THEY EVER GO BACK INTO THE WORK FIELD. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TO GET THEM ON THEIR FEET. WE PARTNER WITH SEVERAL PLACES. WE PARTNER WITH SPACE COAST RECOVERY. I MEAN, JUST ABOUT ANY DRUG PROGRAM INPATIENT THAT YOU CAN THINK ABOUT ALMOST IF I'M IF I HAVEN'T SIGNED THEM UP, I'M LOOKING TO I'M WAITING ON THE MOU BACK. SO WE'RE ABLE TO REFER THEM TO THEM AND THEY CAN DO ALL THE LINE. SO BUT WE ALSO HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH THERAPIST ON STAFF. UNDERSTOOD. SO YOU OFFER ACTUALLY YOUR YOUR ORGANIZATION IN THIS PROPOSAL OFFERS NO SPECIFIC DRUG REHABILITATION, BUT YOU'RE GETTING REFERRALS FROM OTHER DRUG REHABILITATION AND WE PAY FOR IT. AND YOU PAY FOR THE DRUG REHABILITATION? YEAH, WE. AND THEN YOU PUT THEM IN IN HOUSING, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WHERE YOU CAN GO THROUGH THESE OTHER PROGRAMS. YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. THANK YOU, PASTOR JARVIS. THANK YOU GUYS. IT WAS GREAT SEEING YOU AGAIN. LIKEWISE. LIKEWISE, MISS TIBBS. I'M SORRY. DID YOU SAY THAT YOU WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER AGENCIES? JUST THE ONES THAT ARE. JUST THE ONES THAT WE RECOMMENDED. YEAH. DID YOU. YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE? NO. JUST THE ONES THAT WERE RECOMMENDED. JUST THE ONES THAT ARE FUNDED. SO THAT'S IT? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. YES. JUST ONE QUICK THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT. THE STAFF REMINDED ME GOING BACK TO YOUR EARLIER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE THE FUNDING FOR HOMELESSNESS CONNECTED PROGRAMS. SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THE THREE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING LEAVES A IT DOESN'T USE UP ALL THE AVAILABLE FUNDS RIGHT NOW. SO WE HAVE ABOUT $261,000 IN FUNDS. WE'LL HAVE ABOUT $37,000 STILL REMAINING. SO WE COULD DO AN ADDITIONAL SOLICITATION TO SPECIFICALLY TARGET PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT HELP THE HOMELESS WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH OPIOID ADDICTION HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE COULD DO THAT WITH THIS YEAR'S FUNDING NOW, IF YOU'D LIKE. AND OF COURSE, LOOK AT THAT FOR NEXT YEAR, TOO. I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO THROW A WRENCH IN THE WORKS, BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO GO DOWN THAT PATH. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG YEAH, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THIS GEARED TOWARDS THE HOMELESS. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF OUTREACH TO THE TO THE CURRENT HOMELESS POPULATION THAT WE'RE OFFERING THESE SERVICES. NUMBER ONE AND AN ASIDE, ANOTHER THING I WANT TO MENTION IS THAT THAT SOME OF THIS MONEY, YOU KNOW, WHO RESPONDS GENERALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN OVERDOSE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT USUALLY IS. I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THOSE OPIOID FUNDS BE USED TO TO EQUIP OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE NARCAN TO TREAT. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T TREAT THESE PEOPLE, FIRST OF ALL, THEY DON'T LIVE THROUGH AN OVERDOSE. THERE'S NOTHING TO TREAT. SO, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FIRST SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, TREAT POSSIBLE OVERDOSES. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. POLICE AND FIRE REGARDING NARCAN. YEAH. PUBLIC SAFETY. YES, MA'AM. JUST FOR COUNCIL'S INFORMATION, WE HAVE. WE HAVE ACCESS. ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S AT NO COST TO THROUGH THE STATE RESOURCES OR SOMETHING FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE. [02:15:04] SO WE HAVE ACCESS FULLY TO THE NARCAN THAT'S NEEDED FOR OUR SIDE ANYWAY. COOL. WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT. DEPUTY MAYOR. SO YEAH, 37,000 TO LOOK AT THAT. YEAH. AND BRING IT BACK. I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT FOR THE WORKSHOP TOO, RIGHT? WE COULD WE WE'LL BE HAVING THAT FOR THE WORKSHOP SO THAT THAT WORKS OUT JUST WELL. ALL RIGHT, SO SPEAKER CARDS. DEPUTY MAYOR ON THIS ONE. NEW BUSINESS ONE. MISS SANTA ISABEL, RIGHT? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OPIOIDS BECAUSE I'M SORRY I HAD A SITUATION I HAD TO DEAL WITH. THANK YOU TO THE CHIEF AND LISA. I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THAT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OSCEOLA AND ORANGE COUNTY. AND THEY ARE PROVIDING NARCAN IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA TO USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO HAVE NARCAN AVAILABLE, LIKE IN A 7-ELEVEN THAT'S OPEN 24 HOURS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. YOU DON'T NEED A PRESCRIPTION TO TO GET ONE. YOU JUST NEED TO HAVE IT AVAILABLE TO YOU. AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO INTO THE HOSPITAL SETTINGS UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE. SO HAVING IT IN LOCATIONS LIKE A 7-ELEVEN OR A GAS STATION OR A PHARMACY LIKE CVS OR SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN 24 HOURS, IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA FOR US TO USE SOME OF THAT FUNDING FOR THAT. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT WOULD BE, YEAH. COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE TO SEE HOW THAT MAY WORK OUT. OKAY, THAT'S AN INTERESTING CONCEPT. NEXT SPEAKER, IT KIND OF GIVES ME THE CLEAN NEEDLE VIBES, LIKE I WOULD, I UNDERSTAND THAT, YEAH, THAT'S. BUT I JUST HAVE A LITTLE. NO, NO, I'M HESITANT ON IT. THAT'S ALL. I UNDERSTAND, BUT LET'S JUST SAY IF IT'S AVAILABLE, YOU COULD USE IT, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT'S DISCUSSION. IT'S DISCUSSION. SO LET'S JUST SAY AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE SOMEONE, CHANCES ARE THEY WOULDN'T BE IN A CITY COUNCIL MEETING. BUT YOU SEE THAT IT'S AN OVERDOSE AND IF ONE HAD ACCESS TO IT, YOU COULD JUST INJECT THEM, RIGHT? SO I GET THE CONCEPT. IT'S WORTH DISCUSSING. CARRY ON. NEXT SPEAKER, MISS KARINA JOHNSON. HELLO, I AM MISS JOHNSON BLACKWELL. I AM WITH SAFE PLACE TREATMENT SERVICES. WE ARE ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DID APPLY FOR THE OPIOID GRANT WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY. I DO APOLOGIZE. I CAME IN TARDY BECAUSE I'M COMING FROM TITUSVILLE, SO I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS. I WORK WITH I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MY CLINICAL HOURS WITH A SAFE PLACE SERVICES TREATMENT CENTER, AND IF IT REALLY WASN'T FOR THEM, I WOULD NOT REALIZE THE EFFECT OF HOMELESSNESS. FIRST OF ALL, AND BY THE WAY, I AM A SCHOOL COUNSELOR, SO THIS AFFECTS EVERYBODY. SO WHEN WE IT HURTS MY HEART. IT WEREN'T CONSIDERED. I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE PASTOR WALSH IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE WORK WITH. WE SERVE A LOT OF HIS CLIENTELE. I'M CONSTANTLY GETTING PHONE CALLS RIGHT NOW ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AND HOW CAN WE HELP THEM? I BRING THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE. I AM THE MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELOR. THERE ARE 2 OR 3 CASE MANAGERS THERE AT SAFE PLACE, AND I KNOW THAT HE BROUGHT UP THE CONCERN. I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW YOUR COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. COUNSELOR WEINBERG, YOU BROUGHT UP THE CONCERNS OF FUNDS BEING ALLOCATED TO STAFF. HOWEVER, WITH SAFE PLACE, WE DO HAVE TRANSPORTATION. WE TRANSPORT THEM TO APPOINTMENTS, WE TRANSPORT THEM TO GET THE PRESCRIPTIONS THEY NEED TO DOCTORS TO OTHER MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELORS WHEN I'M NOT AVAILABLE. I'M WORKING TIRELESSLY ON THE WEEKENDS AND WE ARE ALL WORKING OFF OF VOLUNTEER HOURS. SAFE PLACE HAS BEEN ORGANIZATION FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, AND WE HAVE NOT YET CAUGHT A BREAK. FOR SOMEONE TO BELIEVE IN US AND TO FUND US SO THAT WE CAN KEEP RUNNING THE PROGRAMS. WE RIGHT NOW HAVE OVER SIX, ALMOST SEVEN HOMES THAT WE RUN FOR LADIES AND WOMEN. AND I AM CURRENTLY WORKING ON GETTING SOME OF THE CLIENTS CERTIFIED BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE NOW. I FEEL LIKE IF THEY HAVE CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY CAN WORK TOWARDS, LIKE PASTOR WALSH, SOME OF OUR CLIENTS DON'T GET THAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH SAFE PLACE BECAUSE THEIR [02:20:04] BACKGROUND DOES NOT COME FROM BEING INCARCERATED. SO SOME OF THOSE WHO ARE WORKING TOWARDS THINGS, I'M WORKING RIGHT NOW WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH CERTIFICATIONS SO THAT THEY GET THAT SENSE OF, I BELONG HERE SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH LIFE. IF WE CAN STOP WHAT IS GOING ON, IT WON'T TRICKLE DOWN INTO THE SCHOOLS. AND IF I CAN BRING IF I CAN CREATE PEER MENTOR GROUPS WITH SOME OF THE CLIENTS, THEY CAN SEE ABOUT MY CHILDREN AT THE SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY NEED THAT HANDS ON EXPERIENCE. AND I'M A MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELOR, SO TRUST ME, I SEE IT ALL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO BE RECONSIDERED FOR THE GRANT. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS COUNSELOR? I SEE EBB. SO I'M GOING TO CALL YOU BACK UP HERE. MADAM SHERMAN, CAN YOU CALL EASE BACK UP? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YES. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED WITH SAFE PLACE WHERE THEY WERE LACKING IN AND NOT RECOMMENDED? WE SURE DID. WE SPOKE WITH MR. JOHN CURRY, WHO WAS THE PERSON THAT WAS PLACED AS THE CONTACT NAME. WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM. HE UNDERSTOOD. HE HE AGREED. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. JOHN IS RIGHT. RIGHT. RIGHT HERE, MA'AM. OKAY. YES. SO. YES, MA'AM. SPEAK TO ME. SPEAK TO ME. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YES, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION. OKAY. AND AND IS THERE A WAY FORWARD FOR THE FUTURE? WAS THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION? YES. WE LAID OUT HIM COMING IN AND US GOING OVER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED IN PLACE MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE WE DO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR OPIOID, AND WE'RE EXPECTING TO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS. SO THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PAST PERFORMANCE TRACKING. OKAY. A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE PROPOSALS. SO THAT NEXT YEAR WHEN WE DO THIS AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE A MUCH BETTER CHANCE. SO LIKE BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. RIGHT. THAT I'M TRACKING THAT RIGHT. YES. FOR MONITORING PURPOSES. BECAUSE ANYTIME WE PUT OUT AN RFP, AN RFP, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT TONIGHT, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT FROM A MONITORING STANDPOINT AND WE WORK OUR WAY BACK. SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHEN MONITORS COME, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM HUD, THE US TREASURY, OKAY, THAT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THE MARK AND MEETING THE MARK IS CRUCIAL. WE'VE HAD A BAD HISTORY OF NOT MEETING THE MARK. AND WE CLEANED UP THAT MESS THAT WE ALL INHERITED BEFORE WE TOOK. SO I APPRECIATE YOU DOING YOUR DUE DILIGENCE. SO I UNDERSTAND NOW, I GOT A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHY IT WASN'T RECOMMENDED, BUT MY MY WHOLE CONCERN IS THAT WE SHARED A WAY FORWARD, BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL OF SERVICES, IT IS NOTEWORTHY, RIGHT? OH, YES. AND WE SPOKE ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WE SPOKE ABOUT HIS PROPOSAL. OKAY. AND SHOWING WHERE HE'S PARTNERING WITH LOCAL AGENCIES WITHIN PALM BAY TO MAKE IT STRONGER. THEY DID HAVE THAT, BUT THERE WAS JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO SEE. I UNDERSTAND. AND THE BEST PRACTICES ARE CRITICAL, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION, MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS? ONE MORE QUESTION. YEAH. IS THERE ANYTHING STOPPING? I REMEMBER AT THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW FOR STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING, WHEN NONPROFITS PARTNER IT MAKES THEM THAT MUCH MORE. YOU KNOW, IT ADDS THAT MUCH MORE VALUE. AND WE'VE HEARD PROPOSAL. YES. AND WE'VE HAD THREE IN HERE THAT ARE ALL GOING SEPARATELY. YOU FOLLOW WHERE I'M GOING. LIKE, WOULD THAT BRING MORE VALUE IF IN THE FUTURE OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS WE SAW SOMETHING LIKE THAT? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE THAT THEY REALLY SPECIALIZE IN, THAT THEY DO WELL, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T BE A SMALL NONPROFIT AND DO IT ALL AND DO IT WELL ALL THE TIME. YES, MA'AM. SO WHEN YOU HAVE WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR STRENGTHS ARE, YOU CAN PARTNER WITH ANOTHER LOCAL AGENCY THAT MAY BE DOING ANOTHER PIECE OF IT, LIKE THE TESTING PART. I MAY NOT BE GREAT AT THE CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT I'M REALLY WELL AT TESTING. OR I MAY BE VERY WELL AT THE CASE MANAGEMENT, BUT I NEED SOMEBODY TO. BRING IN THAT EXPERTISE FOR THE TESTING BECAUSE THEY KNOW ALL THE PROTOCOLS TO. TAKE WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE TESTING AND WHERE TO TEST AND WHO TO TEST. SO. THINGS LIKE THAT. YEAH. WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS LIKE TOGETHER IN PARTNERSHIP BY THE COUNTY. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT AND THEY ALL APPLY FOR THAT GRANT AND THEN THEY SPLIT IT UP. BUT THEY'RE STRONGER TOGETHER THAT COLLABORATION. SO THAT'S A THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. ANY ANY OTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS FROM ABC. I APPRECIATE YOU SHEDDING LIGHT ON ON ON WHAT OCCURRED. IT'S IMPORTANT TO STAY IN DIALOG BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS DOCUMENTING THOSE BEST PRACTICES WOULD BE CRUCIAL. I REALLY WHEN I LOOKED AT ALL THEIR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY PROVIDE, I THOUGHT IT WOULD IT WOULD BE A BENEFIT. [02:25:03] BUT NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY. SO JUST KEEPING THAT OPEN DIALOG WITH THIS ORGANIZATION IMMUNIZATION FOR OUR FUTURE IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT ON HOW YOU CAN HELP THEM GET ACROSS THAT FINISH LINE. ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS? OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS OF MAKE SURE I QUOTE THE RIGHT ONES. THERE'S THREE MOVING TO LIGHT INITIATIVE, BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION OPERATION NEW HOPE. OPERATION NEW HOPE. AND BREVARD PREVENTION COALITION, POSITIVE CHOICE, POSITIVE LIFE WITH THE REMAINDER FUNDS GOING TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. SECOND, WITH THE NEXT COMING THIS FISCAL YEAR. THIS YEAR. NOW NOW. NOT THE NEXT ONE. OKAY. FOR THE FOR THE NEXT. FOR THE NEXT. YEAH. YEAH. FOR THE NEXT. YEAH. YEAH FOR THE NEXT. YEAH. FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR. YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. FOR THE RECORD, MA'AM. DID YOU UNDERSTAND THAT MADAM CLERK. DO I NEED TO REVISE IT? NO, I GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. LET'S START IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SHE GOT IT. NO, SHE SAID I GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION, MAYOR. YEAH. IF YOU ALSO. THERE'S A SECOND PART TO THE REQUESTED ACTION. IF YOU COULD ALSO ADD AUTHORIZATION FOR MYSELF TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENTS AND ANY AMENDMENTS WE NEED WITH THEM. YOU'LL HAVE TO PULL THE SECOND REAL QUICK. YEAH. PULL IT. PULLING MY SECOND. OKAY. AND ALSO ADDITIONALLY ADDING THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN. NOT FURTHER. NO. NO. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. ALRIGHT. WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT. [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:] DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE FOLLOWING. FIVE. EIGHT. 12. NEW. ADDED 15. ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO. NINE. OF COURSE. NINE AND NINE WAS WEINBERG. NO, NO, THAT WAS ME. JOHNSON. OKAY. YEAH. ALSO, MR. MAYOR, I BELIEVE THAT THE THE CITY MANAGER PULLED ITEM NUMBER TEN UNDER CONSENT. OKAY. YES, SHE PUT IT. SO WE ADDING NINE AS WELL. AND THAT MADE. SURE THAT TEN WENT TO NEW BUSINESS. CORRECT. SO IT WAS PULLED FROM CONSENT. YEAH. SO YEAH WE ALREADY DID THAT. YEAH. WE GOT TEN OUT. WE ALREADY DID THAT. TEN WAS ALREADY PULLED OUT. SO I'VE GOT GENTLEMEN. THE MOTION IS FIVE. THE REMOVAL FIVE, EIGHT, NINE, 12 AND 15. CORRECT. SECOND. I GOT I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR. FELIX SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. ALRIGHT, WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER. OH, MADAM. SIR OR MADAM? ATTORNEY MADAM SMITH. NO, MY ITEM WAS PULLED. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS. NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2457, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT EIGHT, LOT 2026, PORT MALABAR, UNIT 46. ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22, PAGE 61 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. MISS MACCABEE, I MET YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO. HELLO, EVERYONE. WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT IN A SWIMMING POOL INTO OUR BACKYARD. WE HAVE A 30 FOOT BACK YARD, BUT OF THE 30FT, 20 FOOT IS EASEMENT. [02:30:05] SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS IF WE CAN VACATE EIGHT FEET OF THE 20 FOOT EASEMENT IN ORDER TO PUT IN AN IN-GROUND SWIMMING POOL. IS THERE OTHER INFORMATION YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE. THAT'S FINE. MA'AM, IT'S OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANT, GENTLEMEN? THANK YOU. MA'AM, THAT WAS A WELL THOUGHT OUT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNSEL? IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES. DID YOU VOTE? I DIDN'T HEAR. I DID, YES. YES. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER FIVE. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS FIVE, SEVEN, NINE AND TEN. ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL, A STATE, HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE SMART COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR PERSON. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDED REMARKS. THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION. THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. ORDINANCE 2024 DASH 58, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM GC GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO CC COMMUNITY. COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BABCOCK STREET AND MALABAR ROAD AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE? THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CHELSEA ANDERSON. I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH MANGROVE. TITLE AND LEGAL AT 1530 US HIGHWAY ONE IN ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA. AND I AM HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, ROYAL WASH. PSL, LLC. AND THAT IS A COMPANY THAT IS WHOLLY OWNED AND OPERATED BY DANIELE FAMILY COMPANIES. HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, I DO HAVE ANTHONY DANIELE AND DANNY DANIELE, WHO ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER. I ALSO HAVE SOME MEMBERS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM. OUR ENGINEERS OVER THERE WITH THOMAS ENGINEERING. TOMMY AND EDDIE MACDONALD. AND THEN OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, CHRIS WALSH. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE JOE BISHOP, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR PETROLEUM PETROLEUM MARKETING GROUP, WHICH IS OUR DEVELOPMENT PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT. HE ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY. SO THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, TO THE STAFF FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS AND THE THOROUGH STAFF REPORT. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION TO GO OVER THE REZONING ANALYSIS FACTORS TO SET A RECORD FOR THIS APPLICATION. SO THE FIRST FACTOR IS THE NEED AND JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PROPOSED CHANGE. BY WAY OF SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS THE DANIELE FAMILY COMPANIES, THEY ARE FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED COMPANY. THEY DO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. [02:35:02] THEY'RE OUT OF ROCHESTER, NEW YORK, BUT THEY DO HAVE THREE SMALL SCALE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS IN FLORIDA. AND THEY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THIS PROPERTY HERE IN BEAUTIFUL PALM BAY FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REDEVELOP THIS SITE. IT'S CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED WITH A SOME BUILDINGS THAT WERE ON THEIR BUILT IN 1984. IT'S KIND OF A STRIP STYLE DEVELOPMENT. HISTORICALLY, IT'S HAD VARIOUS OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES THROUGH OVER THE YEARS. RIGHT NOW IT IS VACANT. YOU MAY RECALL ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE DID COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL. A FEW OF YOU WERE ON THE COUNCIL, AND WE HAD REQUESTED A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ALLOW A CAR WASH TO BE A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT, THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MY CLIENT HAD INTENDED TO REDEVELOP THE SITE AS A CAR WASH. THAT WAS DENIED. SO THEY HAD TO REEVALUATE LOOK INTO DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY. THEY DID MEET WITH STAFF SPEAK WITH STAFF. AND STAFF. HAD SUGGESTED THIS MIGHT IS AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A GAS STATION. THEY WENT AND MARKETED THE PROPERTY TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY INTEREST. AND THE PETROLEUM MARKETING GROUP SAID, YES, THIS IS A PERFECT SITE FOR A 7-ELEVEN GAS STATION THAT WE HAVE. SO THAT IS THE THE NEED FOR THE CHANGE. WE'RE NOT HERE TONIGHT ON THIS APPLICATION TALKING ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE COMPANION APPLICATION FOR THE GAS STATION SPECIFICALLY, THAT WAS CONTINUED TO THE NEXT HEARING WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE FINAL READING ON THIS REZONING. SO TONIGHT WE'RE JUST SOLELY TALKING ABOUT THE REZONING TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. I HAVE ON THE SLIDE HERE, JUST STRAIGHT FROM THE CODE, THE INTENT FROM THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. AND IT SAYS THE INTENT IS TO PERMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES, WHICH OFFER A WIDE RANGE OF GOODS AND SERVICES TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, PRIMARILY LOCATED AT OR NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. SO THIS PROPERTY IT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION OF MALABAR ROAD AND BABCOCK STREET. BOTH OF THOSE ARE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. IT'S ACTUALLY THE ONLY PROPERTY AT THE FOUR CORNERS THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. ALL OF THE OTHER THREE CORNERS ARE ALREADY ZONED THAT. SO THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING. IT'S ACTUALLY STATED IN THE INTENT OF THE DEFINITION FOR PROPERTIES IN LOCATIONS SUCH AS THIS TO BE ZONED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. OKAY. ITEM B OF THE ANALYSIS FACTORS IS THE EFFECT OF THE CHANGE, IF ANY, ON THE PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE EFFECT ON THE PARTICULAR PROPERTY WOULD BE A POSITIVE EFFECT. IT WOULD ALLOW REDEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE. CURRENTLY IT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AREA. IT'S BASICALLY FULLY DEVELOPED WITH A PARKING LOT AND THE BUILDING. THERE'S NO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT HAS TWO ACCESS POINTS OFF OF MALABAR ROAD AND THEN THREE ON. THERE'S A PUBLIC DEDICATED ALLEYWAY TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. IT HAS THREE ACCESS POINTS ON THERE. SO IT WOULD ALLOW US TO REDEVELOP THE SITE PUT IN LANDSCAPING AND PERVIOUS SURFACE AREA MORE THAN IS CURRENTLY THERE. YOU KNOW, PUT IN SOME LANDSCAPING, BUFFERING, MAKE IT LOOK NICER. ALSO CONSOLIDATING THOSE ACCESS POINTS. AND THIS IS ALL DETAILS THAT WE COULD GET INTO ON THE ACTUAL CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION, WHERE WE HAVE OUR CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO SHOW YOU WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THAT HEARING. ON THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THIS IS NOT A SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT ZONING CATEGORY FROM THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, SO IT WOULD NOT HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE TRAFFIC OR WATER DEMAND OR SEWER DEMAND. AGAIN, ALL THREE CORNERS ARE ALREADY ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. THE MOST OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST IS ALREADY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO THE SOUTH AND EAST IS CURRENTLY GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROPERTY HAS THE EXISTING ZONING OF. BUT IT'S A IT'S A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO REZONE THIS PARCEL AT THIS CORNER. [02:40:05] TO BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. WE DID HOLD A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN MEETING AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE. WE HAD ZERO ATTENDEES AND WE HAD ZERO RESPONSES. HOWEVER, THERE WERE SOME MEMBERS SOME BUSINESS OWNERS THAT CAME OUT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. AND HAD SOME CONCERNS. THEY VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT IMPACTS ON SPECIFICALLY ON THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND THE PROPERTY. I SEE THEM HERE TONIGHT, SO I'M SURE THEY WILL COME UP AND SPEAK ABOUT THEIR CONCERNS. WE DID. YOU KNOW, THE FACT IS, THAT IS A A PUBLIC, DEDICATED ALLEYWAY. I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS, AND I APPRECIATE THAT THEY CAME OUT AND VOICED THEM. WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. WE DON'T WANT TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT ANYBODY'S BUSINESS. BUT MY CLIENT IS AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY THAT ABUTS THAT. AND HE DOES HAVE THE RIGHT TO UTILIZE ACCESS TO THAT ALLEYWAY. SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING, APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN AND LAYOUT OF THE ACCESS POINTS. SO WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH STAFF ON ANY OPTIONS TO MITIGATE POTENTIAL IMPACTS THAT THEY SEE. OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID RUN SOME COMPARISONS FOR TRIP ANALYSIS FOR THE EXISTING USES THAT ARE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT ARE VERY HIGH TRIP GENERATORS THAT WE COULD BUILD BY, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, COFFEE SHOPS, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, THOSE WOULD BE ALLOWED. AND THEY WOULD. THE FACT IS, IT'S VACANT RIGHT NOW. NOBODY'S COMING AND GOING FROM IT. IT'S NOT GOING TO REMAIN VACANT FOREVER. AND SOMETHING'S GOING TO COME THERE. BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST TO MITIGATE ANY POTENTIAL ISSUES AT THE SITE PLANNING LEVEL. OKAY. OOPS. OKAY. THE ITEM C IS THE AMOUNT OF UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THE GENERAL AREA AND IN THE CITY HAVING THE SAME CLASSIFICATION AS REQUESTED. SO WE DID LOOK AT THE GENERAL AREA. THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THIS GENERAL AREA. THAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING. THERE WE DID NOT SEE ANY UNDEVELOPED LOTS THAT HAD FRONTAGE ON THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. AND OBVIOUSLY AT THIS INTERSECTION. THIS WAS THE ONLY LOT THAT WASN'T ALREADY ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. ALL OTHER THREE LOTS ARE ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THEY'RE FULLY DEVELOPED. OKAY, SO ITEM D I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND READ ALL OF THESE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES. THEY ARE SPELLED OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT. BUT THE BASIC GIST OF IT IS THIS PROPERTY HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF COMMERCIAL. THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF COMMERCIAL. THE CITY HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AS AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS A COMPATIBLE ZONING DISTRICT WITH THE COMMERCIAL FUTURE LAND USE. AND THEN I ALSO AGAIN INCLUDED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT'S INTENDED FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. OKAY. AND THEN SO THE FINAL TWO REZONING ANALYSIS FACTORS ARE WHETHER THE REQUESTED DISTRICT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND WHETHER THE REQUEST PROVIDES FOR A TRANSITION BETWEEN AREAS OF DIFFERENT CHARACTER DENSITY OR INTENSITY. SO HERE IS A MAP THAT I PROVIDED THAT IS AN AERIAL. IT HAS THE ZONING MAP OVERLAID ON IT. I WAS TOLD THIS MIGHT. OH YEAH. OKAY. SO RIGHT THERE, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE HERE ASKING FOR THE REZONING OF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU SEE IN RED ARE CURRENTLY ZONED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. AND THEN EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE LIGHT PINK PURPLE COLOR IS THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THIS AREA. WE ARE NOT REQUESTING TO REZONE A PROPERTY WITH A COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S INTRUDING INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA. IF WE'RE LOOKING AT SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA TO THE NORTH, ACROSS THE STREET, THERE IS A RACETRAC GAS STATION. [02:45:11] TO THE WEST, THERE IS THE SHADY OAKS SHOPPING PLAZA THAT HAS A VARIETY OF RETAIL COMMERCIAL OFFICE USES. THERE'S A BANK, A RESTAURANT IN THERE. THEN TO THE EAST THERE'S THE EAST EASTSIDE. MOWERS IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS. IT'S A LAWN MOWER REPAIR AND SALES OPERATION. AND THEN FURTHER EAST THERE'S VARIOUS RETAIL, OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL USES. AND THEN FINALLY TO THE SOUTH, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH. YOU CAN SEE THE ALLEYWAY I MENTIONED IS THIS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY, AND IT RUNS THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THIS BLOCK, AND IT IS A PUBLIC DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC FOR ANYBODY CAN DRIVE ON IT. THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY ARE PRIMARILY OFFICES FOR DIFFERENT TRADES. THERE'S CONTRACTORS, ROOFERS THERE'S AUTOMOBILE REPAIR AND SALES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AND FITTING WITH THIS AREA, AND FOR THESE REASONS, THE STAFF RECOMMENDED APPROVAL IN THE STAFF REPORT. SINCE WE MEET THE FACTORS TO CONSIDER FOR THE REZONING ANALYSIS. WITH THAT WE ARE HERE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. AGAIN, I HAVE THE OWNERS. I HAVE THE PROPOSED END USER AND OUR ENGINEERING TEAM HERE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME. SO HAPPY TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN WEINBERG? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. FIRST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TRANSPARENCY, BECAUSE I WAS DEFINITELY GOING TO BRING UP THIS PROJECT ABOUT PREVIOUS. AND I KNOW COUNCIL, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERY PROJECT, BUT I'M GLAD WE YOU KNOW, WE STUCK STRONG ON THIS ONE. BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT, A LOT BETTER VALUE. MY QUESTION WILL PROBABLY BE MORE SO FOR THE OWNER, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS IN THAT AREA. WELL, IN THAT VICINITY. WILL THEY HAVE AMPLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO FIND ANOTHER LOCATION TO RELOCATE? OR SO YOU MEAN THE ONES THAT WERE OCCUPYING THE BUILDING? YES. SO ALL OF THOSE LEASES HAVE EXPIRED. IT'S BEEN VACANT, I THINK, SINCE AUGUST. OKAY. SO THE BARBERSHOP IS NO LONGER THERE EITHER. HE'S NOT THERE ANYMORE? NO. ALL OF THOSE LEASES, THEY WERE SET TO RUN THEIR COURSE. OKAY, SO NOBODY'S THERE RIGHT NOW? NO. IT'S VACANT. YEAH. OKAY, THAT WAS IT. HOPEFULLY NOT FOR LONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MA'AM. WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SPEAKERS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. FIRST SPEAKER. DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BATON. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO BRING UP ON THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE WAS AT PLANNING AND ZONING. RECOMMENDED DENIAL. THEN WHEN I GO TO THE PACKET TONIGHT TO LOOK AT THE RATIONALE WHY PLANNING AND ZONING RECOMMENDED DENIAL, THE THAT INPUT IS NOT THERE FOR YOU TO REVIEW TO SEE WHY YOUR ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDED DENIAL. SO IT WASN'T IN THERE. I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT IN ITSELF WAS KIND OF STRANGE. SO YOU DIDN'T GET TO HEAR WHAT YOUR ADVISORY BOARD WAS RECOMMENDING. ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THIS ONE WAS IF YOU REZONE THIS, THEN THE NEXT ITEM THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUESTING IS THEY'RE GOING TO WANT A CONDITIONAL USE. SO MY ME BEING THE SIMPLE MINDED PERSON THAT I AM, I WOULD SAY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST REQUEST A CONDITIONAL USE ON THE CURRENT ZONING. BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT THAT RIGHT NOW. YOU COULD DO THAT WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE THE ZONING, WHICH IS ONE MORE STEP. SO THOSE TWO, THOSE WERE THE FIRST TWO INITIAL ITEMS THAT WOULD COULD POSSIBLY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONFLICT. THE OTHER THING WAS WAS THE GAS STATION COMING OUT ONTO THIS ONE, WHICH WOULD BE MULTIPLE IN OUT TRAFFIC OR QUITE A BIT OF IT, IS THAT YOU COME OUT ONTO MALABAR ROAD. IN ORDER TO GO WEST, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A U-TURN RIGHT WHERE THE LANES CHANGE, RIGHT? SO I, I WANT THE PERSON TO HAVE A BUSINESS THERE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A BUSINESS THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE MULTI HIGH END TRAFFIC. IN OUT IN OUT IN OUT. BECAUSE THE INTERSECTION RIGHT WHERE THE LANE CHANGES IS TERRIBLE. [02:50:02] THEY COULD NOT MAKE A THEY COULD NOT GO WEST WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND WITHOUT HAVING TO MAKE A U-TURN ON MALABAR ROAD. YOU COULD NOT DO IT RIGHT. THAT BEING SAID I WANT THE INDIVIDUAL TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR LAND. BUT THE BUSINESS THAT THIS BUSINESS AND THIS LOCATION, BY MY STANDARDS, IS NOT APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MR.. BRIAN BELL. BRIAN BELL, 2700 SMITH LANE, MALABAR, FLORIDA. GOOD EVENING. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S SERVICES. STAFF, MAYOR, COUNCIL THE MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS IN THIS AREA ARE AGAINST THIS. THE ZONING CHANGE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES. IT'S. I WOULD CONSIDER IT NON-CONFORMING. THE CORNER OF BABCOCK AND MALABAR IS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN GC FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT HAS MUCH LESS TRAFFIC COMING OUT OF THE GC ZONING, THEN THE CC ZONING. THE INTERSECTION CURRENTLY HAS A PROBLEM HANDLING THE TRAFFIC THAT IT THAT IT HAS. IT WOULD IT WOULD FURTHER CONGEST THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S TRAVELED EAST TO BABCOCK ON MALABAR ROAD, BUT IT'S A RACEWAY. YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE ARE. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO DUMP INTO THE EXISTING STRAIGHT EASTBOUND LANE. AND THE PEOPLE FROM THE NORTHWARD LANE TRYING TO MERGE IN. IT'S IT'S IT'S CHAOS AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY. IT'S REALLY UNSAFE. THE THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COMPOUND THAT. AND FURTHERMORE, REGARDING THE ALLEY I LOOKED UP IN PALM BAY CODE. IT'S 180 4.0 FOR ALLEYS, AND IT BASICALLY STATES IT'S FOR THE NEIGHBORING, IT'S FOR THE BUSINESSES TO USE FOR SERVICING OF THEIR BUSINESSES. NOW MY CONCERN IS THERE. IT WAS STATED EARLIER THAT THERE ARE THREE ENTRANCES ONTO THE ALLEY. THAT IS AN INCORRECT STATEMENT. THERE IS ONE AND IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE. THE EAST SIDE HAS BEEN BLOCKED OFF WITH A SMALL FENCE. THERE WERE TWO ON MALABAR ROAD AND THE EAST. MOST. ONE OF THOSE WAS BLOCKED OFF AS WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE CUTTING THROUGH AND CREATING A TRAFFIC HAZARD WITH THAT. SO IT'S REALLY ONE ON ONE AS IT CURRENTLY WAS USED BEFORE. AND THEN LET'S SEE, WHERE WAS I GOING WITH THIS? THE IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE BUSINESSES USING THAT ALLEY. THERE'S ROOFING COMPANIES, CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, ALUMINUM. GROCERY STORES, THE DEPOT FEED STORE. IN COMPARING IT TO THE WAWA, I'M SURE IF YOU POLL THE PEOPLE ON THE RESIDENTIAL STREET BEHIND THE WAWA, PEOPLE ARE USING THAT TO AVOID THAT INTERSECTION, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME THING HAPPENING. YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE WAWA ON EMERSON AND MALABAR? YES, SIR. UNDERSTAND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BACK THERE? YES. SO I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH THERE. I SEE IT ALL THE TIME. SO WE WOULD BE UNDER THE SAME. WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM. I'M NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT AND I KNOW I'M ABOUT OUT OF TIME, BUT ACCESS TO THAT ALLEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED FOR ANY, ANY COMMERCIAL, ANY CC COMMERCIAL BECAUSE IT WILL CHALLENGE THE IT WILL COMPROMISE THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE CURRENTLY. THANK YOU SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE'LL LET THEM REBUT AS WELL. MA'AM, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS. MR. STICE. STACE. ROBERTS, 1796 WOODBROOK DRIVE. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE LAST TWO GENTLEMEN TALKING IN IN DETAIL ABOUT THE CHALLENGES. I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A COMMUTER PERSPECTIVE. I GO THAT WAY WHEN I GO TO THE BEACH. NOT ONLY IS IT A BUSY ROAD, BUT I MYSELF HAVE USED THE FACILITIES NEXT TO THE HOSPITAL THERE FOR WHETHER IT'S X RAYS OR AN MRI OR WHAT HAVE YOU. AND SO YOU HAVE THAT GROUP OF PEOPLE GOING INTO HOSPITAL, BABCOCK AND MALABAR ROAD. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY THINK THAT'S A CLEAR THRUWAY THAT YOU CAN GET THROUGH? THAT'S INSANE. IF YOU'RE COMING THE OTHER WAY ON MALABAR ROAD, PASSING BABCOCK. [02:55:01] YOU ALWAYS GET PEOPLE IN THE LEFT LANE. THAT'S A TURN LANE HAULING ASS TO CUT IN FRONT OF PEOPLE TO GET AHEAD AS THEY HEAD EAST ON MALABAR ROAD. I'VE BEEN TALKING SAFETY HERE GOING ON FIVE YEARS NOW, YOU KNOW. WHAT IS YOUR DECISION ON THIS WITH REGARD TO SAFETY AND MINIMIZING ANY, ANY WAY YOU CAN? WELL, LET ME PUT IT ANOTHER WAY. WE ARE ALREADY CREATING GRIDLOCK. YOU'RE COMPOUNDING THAT GRIDLOCK. IT'S GOING TO BE INSANE. AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SAFE. ACCIDENTS WILL GO UP AND YOU STILL HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING BIKES IN THE STREET AND WHAT HAVE YOU. IT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS. LET'S BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS. IT'S AN ITEM THAT WE REALLY SHOULDN'T GO TO BECAUSE FROM COMMON SENSE PERSPECTIVE, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO TO CREATE MORE OF A GRIDLOCK IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. THAT'S ALREADY VERY, VERY TOUGH TO DRIVE THROUGH. TO ME, THIS IS A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. OR LET'S IGNORE THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AND IGNORE THE QUALITY OF LIFE. BUT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION. YOU KNOW, HOW IS IT TO YOU? IS IT IS IT EASY? DOES IT MAKE IT SAFER OR MORE DANGEROUS TO APPROVE THIS? THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MR.. STEVE ABBOTT. ABBOTT. ABBOTT. STEVE. ABBOTT. ABBOTT AND COSTELLO. STEVE ABBOTT, 465 OLDSMAR STREET, PALM BAY, FLORIDA. I OWN A BUSINESS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE ALLEYWAY. THE ALLEYWAY? MOST OF US USE IT FOR SANITATION. OUR CARS, WE PALM BAY ALUMINUM GETS DELIVERIES IN THE BACK. THAT ROAD IS NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE A TRAFFIC OF A GAS STATION. EVERYBODY COMING OFF THE MALABAR AND BACK TO GO INTO THE GAS STATION ARE GOING TO COME OUT ONTO THE HIGHWAY AND TRY TO FIND A WAY OUT. THAT CORNER IS JUST A NIGHTMARE, AND THAT ALLEYWAY IS NOT GOING TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC OF A GAS STATION IN, WHAT, 3 TO 5 MINUTES? A CAR IS GOING TO PULL OUT THAT GAS STATION RIGHT NOW. WE LOOK IF WE GET WHEN THE WHEN THAT LOCATION WAS FULL, IF WE HAD 2 OR 3 CARS COME OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT, IT WAS A LOT. IT WAS A BARBER SHOP. IT WAS A BEAD SHOP. IT WAS A PAWN SHOP, A PAWN SHOP. CAR WOULD COME IN, STAY FOR A LITTLE BIT, PULL OUT, BUT NOT THE VOLUME OF A GAS STATION. HAD A BAKERY THERE TOO. ONCE A BAKERY WAS IN THERE FOR A WHILE. IT WAS A GREAT LITTLE PLACE, YOU KNOW. BUT IT'S. THAT ALLEYWAY IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE. I MEAN, THEY WERE TALKING. THEY SAY THEY NEED IT FOR JUST FOR FUEL DELIVERY. THEY NEED IT FOR THEIR SANITATION. YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THEY COULD PUT AN ENTRYWAY THERE AND PUT A GATE FOR JUST THEIR DELIVERIES AND CLOSE THE GATE, OTHERWISE THAT IT THAT ALLEYWAY WILL JUST NOT HANDLE THE TRAFFIC. IT JUST WON'T DO IT. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. DEPUTY MAYOR BUTCH OREN. HERE. WHO GETS THIS? OKAY. BUTCH. AROUND 219 TRENTON AVENUE. YOU GOT ONE HERE? YEAH, I GOT ONE THERE. BUT THIS QUASI JUDICIAL. SO THEY SAID I HAD TO HAVE A BLUE, RIGHT? WE CONVERTED THAT. SO ARE YOU GOOD? YOU CONVERTED. THANK YOU SIR. ORANGE TO BLUE. YOU'RE ON. YOU'RE ALREADY DONE. YOU'RE READY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. IT CONTAINS THE OATH. STOP THE CLOCK. THANK YOU. I GET MY STOP THE CLOCK. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CARRY ON. BUTCH. 219 TRENTON AVENUE. SOME OF THESE GUYS HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS UP THERE. YOU GOT TWO LANES GOING NORTHBOUND THAT TURNS LEFT TO GO EASTBOUND ON MALABAR TWO LANES, WHICH VERY QUICKLY LESS THAN A QUARTER MILE GOES TO ONE LANE. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THEIR ENTRANCE SOMEWHERE IN THAT LITTLE SPACE. SO WHEN THAT FIRST CAR STOPS TO GET GAS, ALL THAT TRAFFIC BEHIND HIM IS GOING TO BACK UP. NOW YOU GOT THE SAME THING COMING. MALABAR EASTBOUND. IT'S LIKE A DRAG STRIP. WHEN THAT STREET LIGHT TURNS GREEN. VERY DANGEROUS. NUMEROUS ACCIDENTS HAVE HAPPENED THERE THROUGHOUT THE YEARS COMING OFF OF BABCOCK MAKING THAT RIGHT. IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING. NOT AS BAD AS THE OTHER TWO INTERSECTIONS, BUT THE AREA IS JUST NOT BUILT FOR STOPPING TRAFFIC TO TURN INTO A FILLING STATION, GET GAS. THEN THEY GOT TO COME BACK OUT. SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE JAMMED UP THERE. SO IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD LOCATION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THAT'S WHAT I HEAR FROM YOU GUYS ALL THE TIME. PUBLIC SAFETY. PUBLIC SAFETY. [03:00:02] KEEP THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MR. LAVONTE VALENTINE. HOW Y'ALL DOING? HI. I'M LAVONTE VALENTINE, SO I WORK FOR THIS COMPANY RIGHT NOW, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THEM FOR SEVEN MONTHS, AND I'M 25. WHERE ARE YOU FROM? I'M FROM PALM BAY. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO STATE YOUR ADDRESS? 1772 FALLON BOULEVARD. SO I LITERALLY LIVED. NICE TO MEET YOU. NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO, BOSS. CARRY ON. SO AGAIN, I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THIS COMPANY FOR ABOUT SEVEN MONTHS. I'M LITERALLY DRIVING FROM PALM BAY TO VERO BEACH TO GO TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I'M WELCOME THERE. AND I'VE BEEN ON THIS MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR JUST SEVEN MONTHS NOW, AND THEY'RE SO WELCOMING. ANY GAS STATION I GO TO OVER HERE, IT'S LIKE A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE. ANY GAS STATION THAT I'VE WENT TO WITH LIKE THIS OWNER. YOU COME IN, I PROMISE YOU YOU'LL COME BACK TO THIS GAS STATION. ANY OTHER GAS STATION YOU GO TO? PROBABLY LIKE WAWA OR SOMETHING. YOU GOING IN THERE FOR, LIKE THE FOOD? YOU'RE NOT GOING IN THERE FOR THE PEOPLE. AND AGAIN, WITH LIKE THIS ORGANIZATION HERE, I FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY NEED LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF ENLIGHTENMENT. AND I FEEL LIKE THIS COMPANY DEFINITELY WILL BRING MORE JOBS HERE JUST BECAUSE, LIKE THE OWNER, I'VE ONLY BEEN WORKING THERE FOR SEVEN MONTHS AND I SPEAK TO I SPEAK TO HIM AS IF I WAS ON HIS TEAM FOR, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE, FOUR YEARS. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT RIGHT THERE. AGAIN, THE PEOPLE MY AGE, I FEEL LIKE I WOULD BE THEIR MANAGER IN THAT STORE. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE A MORE, A MORE INCLUSIVE THING HERE, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE IN MY AGE, BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE'S PROBABLY NOBODY THAT'S JUST JUST, YOU KNOW, NO, NO, HE'S 30 NOW. SO JUST THINGS LIKE THAT. AGAIN, I WAS A TWO SPORT ATHLETE, I PLAYED FOOTBALL, I RAN TRACK, I HAD TO FIND SOMETHING THAT I WAS COMFORTABLE WITH DOING SOMETHING THAT I AGAIN WANTED TO DO. SO WITH THIS COMPANY AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THEY THEY ALLOW THAT THEY ALLOW YOU TO COME IN THERE TO BE YOURSELF. I'M LIKE, I'M MYSELF. AND AGAIN, I'M A MANAGER THERE, AND I CAN BE MYSELF. AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THERE. AND AGAIN, WITH THE TRAFFIC SITUATION, I'VE BEEN LIVING OVER THERE AGAIN SINCE 1999. I'VE LITERALLY PALM BAY. I LIVE ON FALLON BOULEVARD, SO THAT'S LITERALLY LIKE TWO MINUTES FROM THE RACETRACK. I'M ALWAYS DRIVING FROM FALLON TO GO ON TO 95 TO GO DOWN TO VERO BEACH. SO I FEEL LIKE IF AGAIN, IF WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THEIR HAVING THEIR ALLEYWAY AND WE'RE HAVING THE GATE, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE OUR BUSINESS RUN AND ALSO NOT PUSH THEIR BUSINESS OUT OF THE WAY, BUT HAVE OUR BUSINESS RUN THERE BECAUSE, AGAIN, IT'S ONLY THAT RACETRACK THERE, WHICH IS ALWAYS THEY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS THERE. PALM BAY IS DEVELOPING. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN PALM BAY. AND AGAIN, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, IT PROBABLY WILL NOT STOP IN PALM BAY BECAUSE PALM BAY WILL START LOOKING LIKE ORLANDO. AND THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL WITH THAT. SO, LAMONT, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. YOU'VE MENTIONED VERO BEACH A FEW TIMES. YES, SIR. WHERE IN VERO BEACH IS, IS THE STORE YOU WORK AT? RIGHT OFF I-95, EXIT 147. SO ROUTE 60? YES, SIR. I KNOW THE 7-ELEVEN. IT'S RIGHT OFF OVER TO THE EAST. YES, SIR. CORRECT. I KNOW THE THE EXACT LOCATION. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I APPRECIATE THAT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE? YES. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAN. I'M PROUD OF YOU. YEAH, I KNOW HIM AND HIS BROTHER ANTHONY. MAN, THIS THIS DUDE HAS SOME WHEELS, RIGHT? YEAH. FOOTBALL. OH, FOOTBALL AND TRACK. HE PLAYED FOR. HE PLAYED FOR SOUTH CAROLINA. AND I WAS A TWO SPORT ATHLETE. I PLAYED AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THEN I RAN TRACK FOR THEM AS WELL. STOPPED PLAYING THERE. AND THEN I WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA. YEAH. SOUTH FLORIDA. YEAH. THAT BOY. YEAH. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, MAN. I'M PROUD OF YOU, MAN. THANK YOU. I'M PROUD OF YOU. SO, WHAT HIGH SCHOOL DID YOU? I WENT TO MELBOURNE CENTRAL CATHOLIC, MCC, CC. YES, SIR. YEP. OKAY. YEAH. AND I WENT TO PORT MALABAR ELEMENTARY RIGHT THERE. LIKE I HEAR LIKE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. RIGHT, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. ALRIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER. HE WAS THE LAST SPEAKER. OKAY. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. WELL, HE SHED SOME SOME LIGHT AND SOME ENCOURAGEMENT MA'AM, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL. HOWEVER, YOU WANTED TO MANAGE THAT. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK, CHRIS, IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO ASSIST THIS. CHRIS WALSH IS OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. SO SINCE SO MANY OF THE CONCERNS ARE DEALING WITH TRAFFIC, I THINK IT'S BEST FOR HIM TO COME UP. I DO WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW THINGS REALLY QUICK. SO MISTER BATTEN HAD MENTIONED, WHY DON'T WE JUST REQUEST THE CONDITIONAL USE AND NOT DO THE REZONING? THIS IS NOT AN ALLOWABLE CONDITIONAL USE IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. SO WE HAVE TO REZONE IT AND THEN REQUEST THE CONDITIONAL USE. IT WOULD BE AWESOME IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT AND THEN THERE WERE A LOT IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND DISCUSS THE TRAFFIC, I'M GOING TO PULL UP THE SLIDE. [03:05:07] IT'S ACTUALLY I WILL POINT OUT ALL OF THESE COMMENTS ARE REALLY ABOUT THE SPECIFIC GAS STATION USE, WHICH IS NOT WHAT THE PUBLIC HEARING IS TODAY. THIS IS JUST THE REZONING. BUT HERE'S SOME VISUALS FOR TO HELP YOU WITH DISCUSSION. YEAH. CHRIS. CHRIS. WALSH. WALSH. TRAFFIC. AND I HAD A TWO AND A FIVE IN MY AGE ALSO, BUT THEY'RE REVERSED, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT 52. BUT BUT SO THE FIRST THING I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE, I GUESS IN TERMS OF ACCESS. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS THE ACCESS ONTO THE ALLEYWAY. I THINK THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE PERMITTED ACCESS POINTS, BUT TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN GATED OFF. AM I SAYING THAT RIGHT? CHELSEA? YEAH. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE THREE I APOLOGIZE. THERE'S THREE EXISTING ACCESS POINTS ON THE ALLEYWAY. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE EXISTING SITE. YEAH. COULD YOU GET THAT MIC CLOSER TO YOU? THANK YOU. SORRY. THOSE ARE THE THREE EXISTING ACCESS POINTS RIGHT NOW, AND THERE ARE INDEED THREE. OKAY. SO ONE OTHER THING THAT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, IS WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD DO UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. AND SO THERE'S SOME USES THAT WOULD GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC THAN THE GAS STATION. AND SO THE REASON I BRING THAT THAT UP IS BECAUSE WHEN WE MET WITH D.O.T. AND TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO IMPROVE ACCESS IN MALABAR ROAD AND WORK WITH THEM CLOSELY BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE SITES LIKE THESE, YOU HAVE THESE OLD SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'VE GOT MULTIPLE DRIVEWAYS. THEY'RE NOT CURRENT STANDARDS. AND SO THEY RECOGNIZE THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE A HIGHER INTENSITY USE EITHER UNDER CURRENT ZONING. AND SO THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TRY AND MAKE IT BETTER. AND THAT WAS WHAT WE WORKED WITH THEM IN THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO TRY AND HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THAT. SO CERTAINLY WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH CHAD LINGENFELTER. HE'S THE HEAD OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT FOR FOR DISTRICT FIVE FOR DOT. AND SO WE GOT RID OF ONE OF THE DRIVEWAYS. AS YOU SAW, WE PUSHED THE DRIVEWAY. SO YOU GO BACK TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUSHED THE DRIVEWAY AS FAR EAST AS WE COULD. AND SO CHAD SAID, HEY, THAT'S GREAT. AND ALSO ONE OF THE EARLIER RENDITIONS, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S COMING IN THERE. IT WAS BASICALLY IT WAS KIND OF LEADING INTO THE PARKING LOT. AND SO WE SAID, HEY, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM TO TRY AND CREATE A DRIVEWAY THROAT. SO THAT WAY DRIVERS CAN ENTER THE PROPERTY AND DON'T BACK UP INTO TRAFFIC RIGHT AWAY AND POSSIBLY BACK UP INTO MALABAR, WHICH IS A MUCH BETTER SITUATION THAN THAN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS. IN FACT, THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM DID A GREAT JOB IN MAKING THIS WORK. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THE RADIUS COMING IN IS ALSO A MUCH LARGER RADIUS. AND WHAT TYPICALLY DOT ALLOWS. SO THE RADIUS OF THE SO THE POINT OH GO BACK I'LL GO BACK I'M SORRY. SO WHEN YOU ENTER, BASICALLY WHEN MOTORISTS ENTER IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A FLATTER RADIUS. SO CARS CAN ENTER THE DRIVEWAY A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN TYPICALLY. SO IT ALLOWS THEM TO GET OUT OF THE TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN THAN TYPICAL. AND SO WORKING WITH DOT, THEY'RE VERY PLEASED WITH THIS ACCESS IMPROVEMENT JUST OVERALL FOR THE PROPERTY, RECOGNIZING WHETHER IT'S THIS OR WHETHER THEY DO SOMETHING UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING. AGAIN, MAYBE A RESTAURANT OR A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. THIS IS A MUCH BETTER SITUATION THAN WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT IT'S NOT JUST THIS GAS STATION, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH THIS PROPERTY. AND HOW BEST CAN WE HANDLE THE ACCESS? OKAY. ON TOP OF THAT, THE ALLEYWAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THESE ALLEYWAYS YOU WANT TO CALL ALLEYWAY. I CALL IT KIND OF MORE OF A COLLECTOR ROADWAY THAT PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, ELIMINATES MULTIPLE UNCONTROLLED DRIVEWAYS. IT ALLOWS OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO ALL COMBINE AND PUT TRAFFIC INTO A SINGLE LOCATION. SO IT'S A MORE CONTROLLED SITUATION. SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU GET RID OF THE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY, ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW YOU'RE PUTTING MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH MALABAR BABCOCK, ANYBODY THAT'S COMING FROM THE SOUTH, THEY NOW HAVE TO GO TURN RIGHT ON MALABAR. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GO AHEAD AND GET, YOU KNOW, USE SOME OF THIS ACCESS ALLEYWAY. SO WE'RE NOT SINGLE POINT LOADING EVERYBODY AT THAT ONE DRIVEWAY. SO I THINK THAT'S DISPERSING THE TRAFFIC IS BENEFICIAL FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. THE OTHER THING TOO IS THIS BUSINESS. IT'S A CONVENIENCE BASED BUSINESS. THIS IS NOT A DESTINATION BASED BUSINESS LIKE A SHOP, YOU KNOW, SHOPPING CENTER. SO, YOU KNOW, THE PREDOMINANCE WHEN WE DEAL WITH THIS, THE 75%, THE DATA WILL SHOW 75% OF THE TRAFFIC GOING TO THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE STREET AND THAT ARE JUST GOING INTO IT AND LEAVING AND GOING BACK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO WORK, RIGHT? WHEN I GET A COFFEE OR I GOT TO FILL UP. SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE PREDOMINANCE OF YOUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE RIGHT. TURNS IN AND RIGHT TURNS OUT. AND SO YOU PROBABLY ACTUALLY HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT GO TO RACETRACK TODAY AND WILL NOW NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN. THEY CAN NOW JUST CONTINUE EAST AND GO RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT. SO IF WE TAKE SOME LEFTS OUT OF THE MALABAR BABCOCK INTERSECTION, THAT'S ALSO A BENEFIT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. NOW THE GENTLEMAN DID RAISE A U-TURNS. BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME U-TURNS BUT IT'S GOING TO BE FAIRLY SMALL AMOUNT. AGAIN, IF PEOPLE ARE GOING WESTBOUND THEY'RE GOING WANT TO HIT THE RACETRACK. [03:10:03] THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE WANTING TO HIT THE 7-ELEVEN. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT CONVENIENT AT ALL. SO WILL THERE BE SOME? YEAH, THERE'LL BE SOME. THERE WILL BE SOME. BUT IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE ALLEYWAY USAGE, REALLY THE MOST THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IS JUST THAT REALLY SHORT SEGMENT RIGHT THERE AT BABCOCK. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD MAYBE GO TO THE EAST IS SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO GO DOWN TO THE SOUTH ON BABCOCK, BUT THEY'LL REALIZE THIS ISN'T THAT'S NOT CONVENIENT AT ALL. THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AROUND THE ALLEYWAY. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO GO QUICKLY. AND THEN ALSO, AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU TRY AND WEAVE YOUR WAY BACK OUT AND MAKE A LEFT BACK ON BABCOCK. THAT'S NOT EASY EITHER. AND SO PEOPLE, AGAIN, CONVENIENCE. THIS WILL NOT BE CONVENIENT FOR WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO DO. SO, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS ULTIMATELY WILL SHOW. MOST OF YOUR TRAVEL IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM NORTHBOUND AND CONTINUING NORTHBOUND AND EASTBOUND AND CONTINUING EASTBOUND. OKAY. SO THOSE ARE ALL THE KEY POINTS THAT WE WANTED TO HIT ON. AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS. CERTAINLY THOSE ARE VALID POINTS AND THE SAFETY IS A VALID POINT. BUT I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO AGAIN THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE WHAT'S OUT THERE BECAUSE SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN THAT COULD BE A VERY HIGH INTENSE USE. AND THIS IS REALLY FOR THE CONSTRAINTS THAT THIS THAT WE HAVE THIS CONFIGURATION. I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY THE DESIGN TEAM COULD ACTUALLY GET THAT DRIVEWAY TO FIT WITH THAT DRIVEWAY THROAT, QUITE HONESTLY, COMPARED TO WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY. SO THANK YOU. YEP. THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ALSO IS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE THE FUEL DELIVERIES. PETROLEUM MARKETING GROUP IS A FULLY INTEGRATED COMPANY, THEY HAVE FULL CONTROL OVER THE TIMING OF THEIR FUEL DELIVERIES. SO IF THAT IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN HERE IS THE TRUCKS COMING IN AND BRINGING THE FUEL. THEY CAN COORDINATE TO MAKE THAT BE OFF HOURS, SO THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE CONFLICTING WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE CURRENTLY UTILIZING THAT ALLEYWAY AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO WITH THAT, WITH THAT, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR REBUTTAL. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. SO BEFORE I GO ON JUST NOD YOUR HEAD BECAUSE YOU LAVONTE, THAT'S A MOBILE GAS STATION. 7-ELEVEN. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. I JUST FOR THE RECORD, ABOUT A WEEK AGO ON A WEDNESDAY, I WAS THERE AT 090 ZERO HOURS. AND YOU WERE OFFERING ME COFFEE. REALLY? FREE COFFEE OUT THERE MARKETING YOUR PRODUCT, RIGHT? CRAZY. I WAS IN A RED MAZDA THAT SAID MARINE CORPS. JUST WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE RECORD. YOUR PERSONALITY SOLD ME. AND MY COMMENT TO YOU WAS, IF YOU KNEW ME, YOU KNEW I DON'T NEED COFFEE. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT BY THAT TIME IN THE MORNING, I'VE ALREADY HAD SEVERAL CUPS. RIGHT? SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW. LEVANTE, YOU DO AN OUTSTANDING JOB. YOU SHARE YOU WORK HARD AND YOU LEFT AN IMPRESSION IN ME. ALL RIGHT, SIR, THANK YOU. OKAY. MADAM SHERMAN, ANY COMMENTS? NO, SIR. OKAY, SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THE ONLY. THE ONLY COMMENT I HAVE IS I HEAR THAT THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE SURROUNDING BUSINESS OWNERS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE MAKING THAT HAPPEN AS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD PREVIOUS TIMES WHERE THE BALL WAS DROPPED AND THEN THINGS WERE TRYING TO BE HANDLED IN THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN IT COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED PRIOR. JUST GAVE HIM OUR CELL PHONE. SO OKAY, SO THERE WE GO. SO THAT'S ALL MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I WOULD CERTAINLY ECHO THAT FOR ME AS WELL. WHEN I LOOKED AT THE PROJECT, THE CONCERN, I HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE THE TRAFFIC FLOW AS WELL. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I DID TALK TO SOMEONE THAT REACHED OUT TO ME. I BELIEVE IT'S STEVE. HE'S ONE OF THE NEIGHBOR THAT BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA, THE THE ALLEYWAY WOULD BE A CONCERN AS WELL. AND HE MADE SOME SUGGESTION. I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE THAT. YOU GUYS ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS HERE. WE CAN TALK ABOUT BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENT MOUNTAIN STANDING. LOOKING AT THE DRAWING WAS IT LOOKS IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS SOME LEVEL OF IMPROVEMENT AS FAR AS MAKING GOING, MAKING THAT TURN ON EASTBOUND, IF YOU GO ON MALABAR, TRAVELING NORTH, MAKING THAT EASTBOUND TURN, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A WIDER TURN, TURN LANE IT FROM WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS RIGHT NOW. [03:15:05] OKAY. CERTAINLY I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HEAR HERE TODAY. TODAY, THE THE ASK IS, IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS, THIS CONVERSATION WAS PRETTY HEALTHY, SO I'M CONSIDERING THAT TURN. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE. PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT. SO YEAH, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS APPLICATION. I'LL TELL YOU WHY. NUMBER ONE IS IS RIGHT NOW THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL. I'D LIKE TO SEE IT STAY AS GENERAL COMMERCIAL. YOU KNOW, AS YOU HEARD, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW. ALSO, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'VE DONE ACCOUNTING, BUT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THERE ARE EIGHT, COUNT THEM, EIGHT GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORES IN THIS, SLIGHTLY MORE THAN TWO MILES FROM ON ON MALABAR ROAD FROM MINTON TO BABCOCK. EIGHT. HOW MANY IS ENOUGH? THAT'S. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU. AND AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. EXCUSE ME. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. YOU KNOW I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, AND AND I WILL SHARE THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP AND WAS SO PERSONABLE. AND I'M ABOUT JOB CREATION. RIGHT. BUT I, WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE. IT'S ALL GENERAL COMMERCIAL. NOW, IF YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT WHOLE SEGMENT COMING IN AND AND CHANGING THE ENTIRE BLOCK THAT THAT'S DIFFERENT. SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST EITHER. I LIKE FOR IT TO STAY GENERAL COMMERCIAL. I'M I'LL BE VOTING NAY ON THIS. SO IT LOOKS LIKE AT THIS PRESENT TIME. THERE, THIS THIS WON'T GO, WON'T GO FORWARD. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN. YES, SIR, I WOULD, BECAUSE IF IT'S A NAY, IF IT IF IT'S DECLINED, THEN THE APPLICANT WOULDN'T HAVE, WOULD HAVE TO GO A WHOLE YEAR BEFORE. WELL, RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. OKAY. SO I JUST GOT TO CALL THE VOTE. YEAH. UNLESS IT'S WITHDRAWN. I'M I'M I'M. I HAVE TO CALL THE VOTE AND THE MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT AS WELL AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THIS IS QUASI. WE WANT TO I REALLY HAVEN'T HEARD ANY. WELL, THE STRONG ARGUMENT. WELL WHAT IS THE STRONG ARGUMENT. SO MAYOR, FOR ME OR FOR FOR BOTH BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO STATE IT. SO NUMBER ONE, IT'S ALL GENERAL COMMERCIAL. I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT. IT SAYS THERE'S THERE'S PLENTY OF PERMITTED USES THERE. RIGHT. THE NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES ARE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. YOU'VE GOT YOU CAN RIGHT HAVE A RESTAURANT. YOU COULD HAVE A TATTOO PARLOR. YOU COULD HAVE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES. THEY COULD LEASE DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THERE. THEY COULD EVEN HAVE A EQUIPMENT SALES RENTAL. THEY COULD HAVE PLANT NURSERIES, GREENHOUSE RESTAURANTS AND EATING ESTABLISHMENT, A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT. I THINK IT'S WITH THE COMPLEXITY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY GENERAL COMMERCIAL. THAT'S MY REASON FOR IT. THAT'S WHY I'M VOTING NAY. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, WOULD YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON. WELL, YEAH. JUST TO REITERATE, I AGREE COMPLETELY WITH WHAT YOU SAID. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KEEP IT GENERAL COMMERCIAL BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY BUSINESSES THAT COULD GO ON THERE THAT WOULDN'T THAT WOULDN'T GENERATE AS MUCH TRAFFIC AS THIS WOULD. AND SECONDLY, AS I SAID, BETWEEN BETWEEN MINTON ROAD AND MALABAR ROAD AND BABCOCK, THERE ARE EIGHT GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORES. I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER ONE. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY, NAY. MOTION FAILS. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. OR MADAM. MADAM. ATTORNEY. MADAM SMITH. WELL, ONLY BECAUSE IT'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO GO THE SAME WAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE AN EVEN NUMBER, BECAUSE THE MOTION TO APPROVE FAILED. IN THIS CASE, THE MOTION TO DENY WOULD FAIL BECAUSE YOU'D BE EVEN. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, IF WE HAD AN ODD NUMBER, YOU ALL WOULD HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION. YES, MA'AM. BUT I'M JUST CLARIFYING IN THE RECORD. WHY? BECAUSE YOU, ALL THE TWO OF YOU THAT DENIED ARE GOING TO STAY DENIALS, AND THOSE OF YOU THAT VOTED TO AFFIRM WOULD STAY AFFIRMED. AND SO IT WOULD BE EVEN, WHICH IS AN AUTOMATIC DENIAL. THANK YOU. MA'AM, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. [03:20:01] MADAM SMITH. ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 45, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF ALL RM TEN SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT PROPERTIES TO RM 15. SINGLE TO MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MADAM CHAIRMAN TO PRESENT THIS CASE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST BRIEFLY, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ALONG WITH THE NEXT SEVERAL ITEMS, ARE ALL RELATED TO OUR RECENTLY UPDATED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES WHERE WE WERE BRINGING OUR OUR CODES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS SIMPLY AND THE REST OF THEM WILL BE SIMILAR TO THE SEMI NARRATIVE. SIMPLY CHANGING OLDER ZONING TO MEET AND MATCH UP WITH THE NEW ZONING THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED. SO IN THIS CASE, THAT'S THE REZONING OF ALL RM TEN PROPERTIES TO BE RM 15. SO STAFF WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNSEL? NO THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE? NUMBER SEVEN. NO PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? STEP RIGHT UP. MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. REZONING OF ALL RMB10 TO RM 15 ZONING. THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THE MAXIMUM. YOU'RE GOING TO INCREASE THAT DENSITY POPULATION ON EVERYTHING THAT WAS ALREADY SET FOR RMB10. WE'RE ALREADY HAVING THE PROBLEM. PROBLEM OF OVER OVER DENSITY IN A LOT OF OUR AREAS NOW. SO WHY WHY MAKE WHAT LITTLE PORTION YOU COULD HAVE LITTLE BIT LOWER. WHY MAKE IT TO THE MAXIMUM. WHY INCREASE WHAT'S ALREADY SET AT A REASONABLE LEVEL OF AN RMB10 WHICH MEANS TEN PER ACRE. PER ACRE. WHY CHANGE THAT TO 15? SO THAT'S MY QUESTION. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE YOUR DENSITIES FOR YOUR ZONING AND YOUR CODES, BUT IT HAS A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON MAXIMIZING YOUR DENSITY, ON THE IMPACT TO THE RESIDENTS. SO I'M TRYING TO SAY YOU JUST WATCH IT. YOU JUST SAW A PRESENTATION WHERE THEY SHOWED HUNDREDS OF APARTMENTS GETTING READY TO COME OUT ONTO A ROAD. THERE'S ONLY ONE ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION. WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHEN YOU START MAKING 15. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE LOCAL ROADS THAT ARE 15 RESIDENTS PER ACRE. SO I, I'M AGAINST IT, BUT IT'S NOT MY CITY, BUT I'M TRYING TO STAY ACTIVELY INVOLVED. AND IF WE CAN KEEP SOME OF THEM ZONED LOWER THEN THAT WOULD BE A SMART MOVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? MADAM CHAIRMAN, I THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'LL ASK STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THE THE REASONS WHY WE MADE THIS CHANGE. LISA, YOU CAN COME ON UP. OR. JOAN. LISA. YEAH, OKAY. MAYOR. YES. IN THE MEANTIME, IF I COULD ASK MR. BATTEN TO COMPLETE AN OATH SPEAKER CARD FOR THIS ITEM. YES, MA'AM. AS MISS FRAZIER WALKING UP. OVER. NO, NO. THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE FINE. JUST JUST WANTED TO STATE THE SAME THING. MY CONVERSATION WITH MISS SHERMAN WAS THE SAME. WANTING TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE BEHIND THAT. WELL, I WANTED TO. RIGHT OR RIGHT? READ. SORRY, I JUST SNEEZED, I APOLOGIZE. NOW I'M SOUNDING STUFFED. BUT ANYWAYS, THIS THE THERE'S ABOUT 688 LOTS THAT ARE TEN IN THE CITY. THERE'S ONE NOW SAY THAT AGAIN. 688 LOTS THAT ARE ARE TEN AT THIS POINT. OKAY. SO WHEN WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING THEM THE TEN ZONING, WHAT'S ALLOWED IN THERE IS THE EXACT SAME AS OUR 15. AND WHAT IS STATED BY MR. BATTEN IS, IS CORRECT. WE ARE NOW ALLOWING THERE TO BE MORE DENSITY IN THESE 688 LOTS. CORRECT. BUT WE WANTED TO REDUCE THE CODE OR REDUCE THE REDUNDANCIES IN OUR CODE. SO THAT IS THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'RE DOING ALL OF THESE REZONINGS THIS EVENING. JUST TRYING TO REMOVE SOME OF THE REDUNDANCIES AND THE USES. WHAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT WE NOW CAME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T JUST THROW OUT THE TEN UNITS PER ACRE TYPE OF [03:25:06] DENSITY. WE, WE CREATED THE RT TEN, WHICH THEN ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE MORE INFILL MISSING MIDDLE TYPE OF ZONING DEVELOPMENTS SO THAT YOU CAN NOW HAVE TOWNHOMES AND DUPLEXES. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTIES LIKE THAT IN THE CITY THAT ARE KIND OF INFILL. AND WHAT CAN WE PUT IN THOSE PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T LARGE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS, WHICH ARE ALLOWED IN THE ARM 15 AND THE ARM 20? SO THERE WAS GOOD PROPER PLANNING AND REASONING BEHIND WHY WE ARE MAKING THE MOVES THAT WE ARE MAKING. I THINK I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR YOUR CONCERNS. TALKED ABOUT THE RT. RT TEN AGAIN. RT TEN. YEAH. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, SO I CAN'T QUOTE CORRECTLY, BUT IT ALLOWS THE TEN UNITS PER ACRE JUST LIKE THE ARM TEN, BUT IT ONLY GOES TO 35 FOOT HEIGHTS. HIGHS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, JOAN. AND AND IT ALLOWS FOR TOWNHOMES, SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WAS LOOKING FOR WERE MORE TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENTS. THEY ALWAYS HAD TO GO TO PUDS IN ORDER TO GET TOWNHOMES DEVELOPED IN OUR CITY. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW AND WE ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE CITY. WHAT WE ARE MISSING IS THE IT'S CALLED THE MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. IT'S THE HOUSING THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A TOWNHOME, A STARTER HOME, CORRECT. AND OR A DUPLEX OR THINGS LIKE THAT. NOT JUST BIG APARTMENT OR BIG CONDO BUILDINGS. SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACHIEVE FOR THE CITY. DOES THAT HELP EXPLAIN A LOT OF IT? YES. NO, NO. FOR ME. YEAH. I'M I'M I'M SATISFIED. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO. NO, SIR. OKAY. SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO ADD. I JUST WANTED TO HAVE SOME CLARITY AS TO WHY. BECAUSE THAT'S THE FIRST THING I'M THINKING. HIGHER DENSITY AS WELL. AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION IN MY CONVERSATION WITH MISS SHERMAN. AND THE RT. THAT'S THE COMPONENT I DIDN'T I DIDN'T QUITE GET. I CAN SEE. SO OUR RM 15 DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE MAX THEY CAN GO. BUT THE COMPONENT OF DIFFERENT STYLE. THE DIVERSE STYLE WITH THE TOWNHOME HIGHER HEIGHT COULD KEEP, YOU KNOW, AT TEN UNITS. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO TO 15 UNITS, BUT YOU CAN ALSO THAT ALLOW MORE DIFFERENT STYLE AND DIVERSE STYLE OF, OF OF HOUSING. SO WHICH, WHICH WE, WE, WE WELCOME AS WELL. SO OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION. OH I'M GOOD SIR. SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SAY NAY. I'LL SAY NAY. PASSES 3 TO 1. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MISS SMITH. ORDINANCE 20 2446, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY. GO AHEAD. MA'AM. BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF ALL SF ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT PROPERTY TO RS1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. PROVIDED FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. MADAM. MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU MAYOR. THIS ONE IS MUCH SIMPLER. IT'S ABOUT AN OLD ZONING CATEGORY. SF ONE FOR A SINGLE PARCEL. ACTUALLY, IN THE CITY THAT IS 0.14 ACRES AND IT'S RIGHT ALONG THE RIVER. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING TO CONVERT THAT OVER TO RS1, WHERE THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY PARCELS ARE. SO THE ZONING IS CONSISTENT. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR, ITEM EIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? NO, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2455, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, [03:30:09] FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF ALL BMV BAYFRONT, MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT PROPERTIES TO UMU URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AS THE BAYFRONT NO LONGER EXISTS AND THE BAYFRONT MIXED USE VILLAGE DISTRICT NO LONGER EXISTS, WE ARE ASKING TO CHANGE ALL THOSE EXISTING PARCELS, ABOUT 29 ACRES TO THE URBAN MIXED USE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NONE. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2024, DASH 56, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF ALL CMU BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING DISTRICT PROPERTY TO CMU COMMUNITY MIXED USE DISTRICT, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING, MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE JUST APPROVED, THIS IS THE OLD BAYFRONT MIXED USE DISTRICT ZONING AND THE REQUEST TO CONVERT THOSE INTO THE NEW ZONING OF COMMUNITY MIXED USE DISTRICT. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL SEEING NONE. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER. ARE WE GOING BACK TO CONSENT? WE'RE ON CONSENT NUMBER FIVE. DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. BATTEN. [CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:] BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. WHEN I WENT TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE AND I WAS TRYING TO LOOK UP FOR THE SACRIFICE PARK, I WANT TO FIND SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IT. WHEN YOU CLICK ON THE LINK TO BRING YOU TO THE INPUT ON SACRIFICE PARK, IT JUST BRINGS YOU BACK TO THE WEB PAGE. JUST YOUR HOME PAGE. THAT'S ALL IT WOULD DO BECAUSE I WANTED TO FIND SOME UPDATES AND I WANTED TO SEE WHAT THE PLAN LOOKED LIKE, BUT IT WOULD ONLY JUST BRING ME BACK TO THE HOME PAGE. THAT'S ALL IT WOULD DO, BECAUSE I WANTED, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE. THE OTHER QUESTION WITH THIS ONE WAS DID WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED ON THE COMPLETION DATE? JUST YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S ALL IT WAS, NO CASUALTIES, JUST CURIOSITY. AND YOU KNOW ME, I'M CURIOUS PERSON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. YES, SIR. MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE SHOULD BE DONE SOMETIME IN JANUARY OF 2025. AND THE THE WEB ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING WE'VE NOTED IT. WE'LL CHECK IT OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ON THIS ONE, I'M GOING TO PASS THE GAVEL. DEPUTY MAYOR, WAS THAT THE LAST SPEAKER? I BELIEVE SO, YES, SIR. OKAY, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE THIS ITEM SECOND. GOT A CARRY ON, SIR. WE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, JOE? NO, NO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY, THE VISION. AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF AND AND EVERYONE INVOLVED. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG JOURNEY. WHEN WHEN FOLKS FIRST HEARD OF THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SOME NAYSAYERS. THEN SECONDLY, WHEN WHEN THEY SAID YOU COULDN'T RAISE ANY MONEY AND WE RAISED $50,000 THEN THE SECOND TIME, SO WE RAISED 100,000. THEN THE NAYSAYERS, I ASKED REPRESENTATIVE FINE FOR SOME MONEY STATE APPROPRIATION. EVERYBODY WAS SAYING, THERE'S NO WAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT. AND SO HE GOT US 150,000. THEN THE TDC CAME THROUGH WITH 250,000. SO THIS IS GOING TO BE AN THIS VISION IS FOR THE FAMILIES OF THOSE THAT SACRIFICED THEIR LIVES FOR US ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. YOU KNOW THAT THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR GRANDCHILDREN, THEIR SPOUSES WILL ONE DAY COME IN AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEIR THEIR GRANDFATHER, THEIR LOVED ONES THEIR NAME IS ETCHED, YOU KNOW, MEMORIAL THAT'S WORTHY OF THAT SACRIFICE. AND SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. SO WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. DEPUTY MAYOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. [03:35:01] NOTHING TO ADD. I'M GOOD. OKAY, SIR. I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW THINGS, AND I'M SURPRISED MR. BATTEN DIDN'T DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT THAT, MAYOR. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY COMMEND YOU FOR THAT EFFORT. YOU'RE TRULY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE BEEN A CHAMPION, AND THEN RIGHTFULLY SO. IT'S AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT PROJECT. WELL, THE I BELIEVE THIS WILL CHANGE OUR LANDSCAPE IN TERMS OF AS A CITY, THE THE PRIDE THAT WE TAKE IN THOSE THAT THAT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR US TO ALL FIRST RESPONDERS SERVED AS AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT YOU SAID YOU IN MANIFESTATION, YOU, YOU KNOW IN ACTION. BUT WITH THAT SAID, A COUPLE OF THINGS WE, MR. BIDEN, I'M SURPRISED YOU MISSED THAT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A A SHORT A SHORTAGE OF 249,000. IS THAT CORRECT? 230. 230. CLOSE ENOUGH. WHERE WE WE WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH THAT DIFFERENCE. WHAT I WOULD SAY. MAYOR, WOULD YOU WOULD YOU CONSIDER, AS YOU DID VERY WELL, COMMIT THE THE NEXT COUPLE NEXT. PROCEED FROM YOUR MAYOR'S BALL, FROM THE MAYOR MAYOR'S BALL TO TO THAT PROJECT. AND HERE'S WHY I SAY THAT THE THE THE PROMISE WAS TO RAISE THAT FUND. AND YOU DID. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. I'D SAY TO MAKE UP FOR THAT SHORTFALL WHERE THE TAXPAYER DOESN'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH IT OR THE GENERAL FUND. I'D SAY TO COMMIT TO CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE PROJECT. THAT'S ONE. THE OTHER PART IS IT WAS A IT WAS A DIFFERENCE OF AND LOOKING AT THE BREAKDOWN, WHAT CREATED THE SHORTFALL? WAS FUNDING TOWARDS THE RENDERINGS, THE ORIGINAL RENDERINGS, RENDERINGS TO SELL THE PROJECTS. PLUS WE PAY ANOTHER FIRM FOR THE ACTUAL PLANS. SO IN THE FUTURE, I THINK IF WE SHARE OF A PROJECT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED. WE'RE GOING TO FIND THE FUND. WHY DIDN'T WE DO ONE ONE? I MEAN THAT I GUESS MORE TOWARDS STAFF AND I'VE. WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I, I THINK THAT COULD HAVE SAVED US SOME MONEY, PROBABLY AN EXCESS OF OVER $20,000. SO I WANTED TO ADD THESE IN MY COMMENTS. CERTAINLY I'M SUPPORTING THIS TONIGHT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT IT OUT THERE OPENLY, PUT IT ON THE RECORD, IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO MAKE UP FOR THAT DIFFERENCE. SO FIRST LET ME LET ME ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION. RIGHT. THE MAYOR'S BALL GENERATED OVER $100,000 CASH. SO THOSE RENDITIONS, IF IF THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE VERY FIRST ITEMS THAT WE PURCHASED. RIGHT. AND IT WAS THROUGH A LOT OF COLLABORATION WITH THE COMMUNITY. SO THE COMMUNITY PRETTY MUCH PARTNERED. THAT'S THEIR PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT? THE STATE HAS PARTNERED WITH 150,000 AND SO 250,000 FROM THE COUNTY. SO EVERYONE'S PUT INTO THAT POT. AND NOW SOME OF THAT CONTINGENCY WOULD BE FROM THE CITY. THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT. THIS IS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITY. IT'S GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE CITIZENS. IT'S GOING TO BE USED AS AN AMPLIFIER. IT'S GOING TO BE USED AS A DESTINATION. THE MAYOR'S BALLS I'VE USED FOR FUNDRAISERS. I DID SERENE HARBOR. THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT WOMEN AND CHILDREN OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. SO THE NEXT MISSION WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T SELECTED SOMEONE YET, BUT THERE'S SOMEONE IN OUR SIGHTS, AND I'M SURE THAT THE THE CITIZENS AND YOURSELF WILL SAY, WOW, THAT'S A GOOD CHARITY TO GO. SO THE ANSWER OF ME DEDICATING OTHERS, I'M ALREADY LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OTHER CHARITIES. I THINK IT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP. AND I THINK IT'S AN INVESTMENT. NOT ONLY EACH ONE OF US, THE CITY'S INVESTMENT INTO SOMETHING WORTHY OF THE SACRIFICES OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS. SO I THINK THIS IS PART OF THAT PART OF THAT FUNDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS A CONTINGENCY IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. IS THAT CORRECT, MA'AM? YES, SIR. SO THAT THAT THAT'S PADDED. SO IT'S AND I SAY PADDED. I SAY THAT THAT IS FOR AN HOUR AN OPPORTUNITY. IF THERE'S SOME CHANGEOVERS WHICH WE DON'T BELIEVE, THERE WILL BE. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. BUT I'LL LET STAFF ANSWER THE REST OF THOSE QUESTIONS. YES, SIR. SO WHICH SPECIFIC QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE UNANSWERED? [03:40:01] THE THE CONTINGENCY FUNDING CONTINGENCY IS 15%. $79,638, $80,000. THEY WERE HOLDING AS PART OF THE PROJECT. YEAH, I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I DON'T KNOW. MY COLLEAGUE FEELS ABOUT THAT, BUT I FELT LIKE. AND I GET THE IDEA OF PARTNERSHIP AND SO ON. BUT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THREE YEARS AGO WHEN YOU BROUGHT THAT UP AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. I THINK IT'S AWESOME. I JUST FEEL AS IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO OTHER THE CHARITY, I THINK. LET LET THE LET THE CITIZEN LET LET US BE THE CHARITY THAT YOU CONTRIBUTE TO. I MEAN, I JUST CANNOT, YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME FOR THE CITY HAVE TO, FOR THE CITIZENS HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE DIFFERENCE OF POTENTIALLY. NOW IT'S 248 IF YOU -79,000. WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT WELL OVER, YOU KNOW, 140 PLUS THOUSAND DOLLARS COMING FROM MR. BATTEN'S GENERAL FUND. SO I'D SAY LET'S CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THAT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. WELL, IF YOU ALREADY MADE PROMISE TO CHARITY, I'D SAY DON'T TAKE IT AWAY, BUT IT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION. SO I THINK IT'S IT'S IT'S A FAIR ASK. I MAY BE ALONE ON THAT, BUT I'D CERTAINLY LOVE TO HEAR MY COLLEAGUES WHAT THEY FEEL, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT. WELL, I WAS GOING TO HOLD OFF, BUT THE MAIN. THE ONLY REAL. I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR. BUT THE MAIN THING I WAS LOOKING AT WAS I DON'T ORIGINALLY REMEMBER AN AMPHITHEATER BEING PART OF THE CONVERSATION. AND WHEN I HEAR AMPHITHEATERS, I'M THINKING MUSIC AND NOISE. AND WHEN I'M THINKING MUSIC AND NOISE, I'M THINKING THE LIBRARY IS RIGHT THERE, TOO. SO THAT THAT WASN'T ORIGINAL. SO WE CAN DRIVE THE COST DOWN BY 54,000, OR IF THAT CAN BE ELABORATED ON. BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE MORE SO FOR DOWNTOWN PALM BAY WITH THE AMPHITHEATER, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK OF A MORE MEMORIAL, THAT'S MORE OF A SILENCE AND JUST PEACE AND JUST RECOGNIZING THE MOMENT. SO LET ME, LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THAT VISION. THE THE AMPHITHEATER ASPECT WAS BROUGHT ON THROUGH THE TDC ASPECT, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE TWO OF THE FORCE THAT COMES HERE EVERY, EVERY YEAR OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT DRIVE FROM THAT RIDE THEIR BIKES FROM MIAMI TO DC. RIGHT? THAT'S ONE ASPECT. THEN WE'LL HAVE EVENTS LIKE THE PATRIOT EVENT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SEPTEMBER 11TH. SO THAT, THAT, THAT WAS IN IN COLLABORATION WITH THAT FORESIGHT, THAT FORWARD THINKING OF WE COULD HAVE EVENTS THERE THAT ARE DEDICATED TO PATRIOTISM AND LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING THAT. SO THE AGREEMENT. RIGHT, THAT WAS PART OF THAT. AND THEN ALSO YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT COMPONENT IS AS THAT CONTINUES TO GROW BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT MAY WANT TO ADD ON TO THERE. AND I KNOW THE CHIEF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THAT WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. SO YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL IS GOING BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE PROJECT IS WE'RE INVESTING INTO YOU'RE NOT INVESTING INTO MY VISION. YOU'RE INVESTING INTO THE LIVES OF THOSE THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES, RIGHT? TO THEIR FAMILIES. FOR THIS, WE CAN MAKE THIS WHATEVER WE WANT. BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. NOW, I DON'T HAVE THE GAVEL. BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. YEAH, YEAH. DEPUTY MAYOR, IF I MAY. YEAH. I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR ON THIS. LOOK, IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S USED THE MAYOR. THE MAYOR'S BALL TO CONTRIBUTE $100,000 TO THIS. WE ALSO GOT A GRANT YOU KNOW. THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS GOING TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THIS. IT'S IT'S, YOU KNOW, HONORING OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES. AND I THINK THE CITY SHOULD HAVE AN OWNERSHIP INTEREST IN DOING THAT. AND SECONDLY, YOU KNOW, LOOK, THE MAYOR'S BALL IS ALWAYS USED FOR FOR SOME WORTHY CHARITY. IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE USED FOR OTHER WORTHY CHARITY. HE'S ALREADY, YOU KNOW, SPONSORED THIS SACRIFICE PARK FOR $100,000 USING HIS HIS MAYOR'S BALL WHATEVER CHARITY HE CHOOSES. AND THAT'S HIS CHOICE TO TO CONTRIBUTE, RAISE MONEY FOR THE NEXT MAYOR'S BALL. THAT'S COMPLETELY UP TO HIM. IT WILL BE A WORTHY CHARITY. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH WITH WITH THE CITY CONTRIBUTING TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE IT IS SOMETHING THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF IN, IN HONORING THESE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES. SO I THINK IT'S ONLY RIGHT. [03:45:02] THAT I FEEL THAT'S STILL GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT 241, THAT COULD BE TWO OFFICERS RIGHT THERE, TWO POSITIONS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE, THE MORE I'M THINKING ABOUT IT. AND THAT ALONE CAN HONOR AS WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE ADDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR THE RESPONSE TIMES. AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE DOLLARS WE'RE WERE UTILIZING. SO I THINK WE CAN RAISE THE MONEY. I THINK I KNOW I COULD HAVE DONE IT. I'LL ADMIT, I KNOW I COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF TRYING TO PUSH IT. WE ALL HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE, BUT I THINK IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, WE CAN GET THAT DONE. ALONGSIDE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND WORKING WITH REPRESENTATIVE FINE AND WHOEVER ELSE IS IN OFFICE COMING UP THIS UPCOMING ELECTION. SO. ALL RIGHT, GENTLEMEN CERTAINLY, AS I SAID, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THANK MISINFORMATION GOES OUT VERY QUICKLY. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK ON THE RECORD AND JUST BRINGING SOME THINGS TO LIGHT AND SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE CAN FIND THE FUND. AND I'M, I STILL I'M SUPPORTING THIS 120% NOT TAKING DISCOUNTING THIS AT ALL. BUT I JUST WISH. AGAIN, I'LL SAY IT. THE MAYOR WOULD CONSIDER. I STILL THINK HE CAN CHANGE HIS MIND AND AND CONTRIBUTE. CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE. BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE PROMISE OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT WAS FROM THE. IT'S GOING TO BE FUNDED MOSTLY THROUGH THE MAYOR'S BALL. AT LEAST THE THREE I REMEMBER. THREE WAS COMMITTED, BUT THREE YEARS. I'LL SAY THAT ON THE RECORD, GENTLEMEN, IF I'M CALLING THE QUESTION, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING USING THE UNDESIGNATED FUNDS, SO. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS, BUT. SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IT IS THE. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. DID YOU SECOND DID YOU SECOND IT. WELL YEAH. WE HAVE A SECOND. CERTAINLY I CAN CALL THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. NAY. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES THREE ONE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES THREE ONE. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT ON THE CONSENT. YES. MR. BATTEN. RESOLUTION 2024, DASH 38. A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING EXISTING STAFF TO SERVE AS THE CLERK TO THE LOCAL HEARING OFFICER. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. MASTER CHIEF BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT TO GIVE IT TO COUNCILMAN FELIX. I MISSED THE FACT THAT THAT WAS AN OVERRUN. I DID NOT CATCH THAT, AND I TRY TO PAY ATTENTION. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THAT PACKET, I THOUGHT THE AMPHITHEATER WAS BEING DONATED, AND I THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WHEN I READ THE PACKET. SO COUNCILMAN FELIX, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING IT, EVEN THOUGH I GET EMBARRASSED OCCASIONALLY. YOU DID IT OKAY, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS AN OVERRUN. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MR. BARTON, IS THAT AN ENDORSEMENT? OH, I'LL. I'LL CONSIDER IT. ABOUT FIVE MORE SECONDS. OH. ALL RIGHT. CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, I SAW IT MADE SENSE TO ME. JUST USE THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE. DON'T MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED. THE ONLY ONE PROBLEM I HAD WITH THIS WAS, DOES THAT MEAN I CAN DO THE SPEED LIMIT PLUS NINE WITHOUT GETTING A TICKET JUST FOR CURIOSITY'S SAKE? BECAUSE IT'S TEN AND OVER AND TEN MORE MILES AN HOUR IN THE SCHOOL ZONE IS QUITE NOTICEABLE. SO BILL BATTEN BEING WHO HE IS TRYING TO GET THE MAXIMUM, I'M GOING TO DO SPEED LIMIT PLUS NINE AND STILL BE SAFE MAYBE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MADAM SHERMAN. ANY COMMENTS ON THAT OR. WELL THE CAMERAS ARE TEN AND OVER. OUR OFFICERS ARE STILL AROUND AND CAN VERY WELL PULL ANYBODY IN IN A SCHOOL ZONE TO YOU FOR SPEEDING IN THE SCHOOL ZONE. IN A SCHOOL ZONE. [03:50:02] I NEED A MOTION. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG SECOND, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR FELIX. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS QUESTION IS, I GUESS MORE SO FOR STAFF AND FOR COUNCIL REGARDING THIS THIS PROGRAM, THE FUNDING COMES FROM WHERE AGAIN, FOR THIS PROGRAM. THIS IS ALL GENERAL FUNDS, SIR. OKAY. BECAUSE MY MY THINKING, I WOULD FEEL WE CAN GET A BIGGER BANG FOR OUR BUCK IF WE SUPPORT, LIKE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE WI VENTURE. BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE THE GREATEST SIGN EVER. BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AS A LOT OF I SEE, A LOT OF BUSINESSES FAIL, NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE POOR LEVEL OF SERVICES, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO MARKET THEMSELVES, OR THEY MIGHT BE MISSING A CERTAIN ASPECT. SO I FEEL WE COULD PROBABLY PUT FUNDING LIKE THIS TOWARDS WI VENTURE OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL HELP THE SMALL BUSINESSES SO THEY CAN GET BETTER RETURN ON INVESTMENT INSTEAD OF JUST PUTTING 10,000 TOWARDS A SIGN. I'M THINKING WE PUT THAT TOWARDS AND I DON'T WANT TO BE EXCLUSIVE TO WE VENTURE, BUT THAT'S WHO WE SPOKE ABOUT IN PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETINGS. BUT PUTTING THAT FUNDING TOWARDS THAT OR SOMETHING FOR OUR STAFF TO UP IT UP WITH BUSINESSES, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND I'M NOT SURE I SEE IT THERE WITH THIS. SO YEAH. SO LET ME JUST THESE ARE MY COMMENTS WITH THAT, RIGHT? DURING OUR WORKSHOP A FEW YEARS AGO, WE DISCUSSED THIS PROGRAM AT LENGTH. AND PART OF THE BENEFIT OF IT IS NOT ONLY HAVING THE BUSINESS INVEST IN THEIR PROPERTY, RIGHT? BUT ALSO NOT ONLY THE SIGNAGE, BUT THE BEAUTIFICATION OF SOME RUN DOWN COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THIS, THIS ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM WORKS WELL TOWARDS THAT END. NOW TO REMOVE IT AND AND ADD IT ON TO SOMETHING ELSE, I THINK IT'S LIKE WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS MULTI-PRONGED. IT'S JUST NOT ONE. SO IF YOU TRY TO ROB PETER TO PAY PAUL, YOU'RE GOING TO MISS PETER'S BENEFIT. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. THEN I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO, IF WE COULD DO A FOLLOW UP WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT HAVE GOTTEN THE SIGNS TO SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE YOU WERE A YEAR AGO. THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE NOW. SO THAT COULD JUST BE SOME DATA. WE COULD JUST GO OFF THE DATA. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. WELL, THAT AND THE INTANGIBLE IS HOW BEAUTIFUL IT LOOKS NOW RIGHT. THAT'S THE INTANGIBLE THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO REGULATE. AND AND I'LL SAY THIS ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO THIS PROGRAM WAS AN OLD ESTABLISHMENT, ONE OF THE OLDEST THAT I COULD REMEMBER PATRONIZING WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN THE 80S. AND IT'S ROONEY'S RIGHT ON PALM BAY ROAD, RIGHT? LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFICATION THAT HE'S DONE WITH, WITH WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO. SO MAYBE IF, MAYBE IF SALES INDICATE THAT. BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT COIN, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON YOU GO DOWN THAT CORRIDOR AND THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE BETTER LOOKING BUSINESSES CURRENTLY ON THAT ON THAT STREET. SO IT ACCOMPLISHES TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, BROTHER. I DON'T WANT US TO LOSE SIGHT OF WHY WE BOUGHT THIS UP IN THAT WORKSHOP. AND COUNCILMAN FOSTER WAS ON THERE AND HE SAW THE VALUE TO THAT TOO. SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, BROTHER. I WOULD I WOULD ECHO JUST EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID. I MEAN, YOU'RE USING ROONEY'S AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT DON'T GO TOO FAR, RIGHT? RIGHT UP THE STREET. DISCOUNT PHARMACY. YOU DRIVE INTO THAT PARKING PARKING LOT. THE BUILDING ITSELF TO MATCH THEIR NEW FACILITY IN THE BACK. I MEAN, IT'S PERFECT MATCH THE THE THE PARKING LOT. IT'S VERY INVITING IN COMPARISON TO PRIOR. SO THIS IS THIS IS OUR THIS PROGRAM AT ITS BEST. YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW, YOU KNOW, THE GOOD QUESTION. DOES THAT, YOU KNOW, RESULT INTO THEIR, THEIR SALES OR MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, BUT CERTAINLY JUST DRIVING ON MALABAR, TAKING A LOOK AT THAT FACILITY. IT'S SURELY VERY EYE APPEALING. SO I WOULD AGREE. THAT'S ONE DEFINITELY WE NEED TO KEEP. I THINK THE THE ADDITION WE THE THIS ITEM ADDRESSED THE ADDITION. GIVE IT A LITTLE MORE MORE STRENGTH IF YOU WILL. MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST TIME, AND I WAS THE ONE TO TO BRING THAT FORWARD. [03:55:06] I THINK THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO AND PAY, PAY ATTENTION MORE AND AND CHANGING THE LANGUAGE AND ADD A LITTLE MORE SUBSTANCE TO IT. I THINK THIS IS DEFINITELY A KEEPER AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. THANK YOU. DOES THAT SATISFY YOU, THOUGH? COUNCIL MEMBER. YEAH. MR. MAYOR YOU KNOW JUST TWO THINGS. IS THAT NUMBER ONE IS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IMPROVES THE APPEARANCE OF BUSINESSES ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. THAT'S OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY. SECONDLY, WHETHER OR NOT THIS INCREASES OF BUSINESSES, THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR SALES OR WHATEVER, THAT'S IRRELEVANT. THE MAIN THING IS THAT THAT THAT YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM. SO THE BUSINESS HAS TO INVEST UP TO THE $10,000. AND, YOU KNOW, BASED ON, ON ON THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY MAKE, WE WILL REIMBURSE THEM. SO GENERALLY, A FAILING BUSINESS IS NOT IS NOT GOING TO INVEST THE KIND OF MONEY INTO THEIR BUSINESS. THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT, COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY. I SAID I'LL TAKE. OKAY. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12. MR.. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'VE GOT FOUR ITEMS TO BRING UP ON THIS ONE. THE FIRST ONE IS THIS. THE FUNDING SOURCE IS GOING TO SUNSET, DECEMBER 31ST OF 2026. WILL WE BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALL YOU KNOW? WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THE OBJECTIVES, BUT WILL WE BE ABLE TO EXPEND SPEND THIS MONEY BY THAT TIMELINE BEFORE WE LOSE IT? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WERE BACKED UP, WHAT THE GUIDELINES, IF WE WERE GOING TO RUN INTO A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BECAUSE I'D HATE TO SEE THE MONEY GO BACK. I HATE SEEING MY FEDERAL MONIES PAYING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT I'D HATE TO SEE IT GO BACK. RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER TWO, I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT OF A SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. HOW DO YOU APPLY TO WHO'S GOING TO BE WHO'S GOING TO GET IT? BECAUSE I'M SCARED TO DEATH THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY FUNDING SOURCES FOR ME WHEN I HAVE TO CONVERT MY SYSTEM, THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY, AND I'LL GET STUCK WITH THE TOTAL BILL. THAT'S ONE CONCERN, YOU KNOW. ITEM NUMBER THREE, I ALWAYS HAVE CONFLICT WITH THIS, SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I BRING IT UP EVERY CHANCE I GET. AND IT'S CALLED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. EXCUSE ME? THOSE WHO PAID VERSUS THOSE WHO DID NOT PAY. AND I'LL USE TWO RESIDENTS SIDE BY SIDE, HAVE THE SAME VALUE OF THEIR HOUSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS INDIVIDUAL PAID THEIR FAIR SHARE TO THE CITY. THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO, PULLED OUT THEIR CHECKBOOK AND DID THE CONVERSION LIKE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO AND TIED INTO THE CITY'S SYSTEM. WHEN IT BECAME AVAILABLE, THEY DID WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO. THIS RESIDENT OVER HERE DID NOT DO THAT. NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, THIS RESIDENT IS GOING TO GET IT FREE OR PAID FOR BY THE CITY. WHAT THAT RELATES TO IS CALLED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT. WHEN YOU GIVE TO ONE THAT YOU DID NOT GIVE TO THE OTHER. AND I ALWAYS HAVE CONFLICT WITH THAT. IT'S PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT LEADS TO FAVORS, AND I'M NEVER IN FAVOR OF THAT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR I COULD NOT FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CRITERIA FROM LOW TO MODERATE INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR THIS WAS. YEAH, MAYBE. AND I ASKED THIS MANY TIMES, AND I NEVER GET A REAL ANSWER ON WHERE I GO TO SAY, OKAY, WOULD I QUALIFY MAKING $30,000, $30,000 A YEAR? WOULD I QUALIFY FOR LOW INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR FOR AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF I'D QUALIFY OR NOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR. I'M GOING TO HAVE STAFF ADDRESS THIS FOR US. YEAH. I GUESS WE START WITH THE TIME FRAME. SO WE CAN DO THE HOUSES. WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE ON A WAIT LIST THAT ARE READY TO GO. THEY HAVE BEEN INCOME ELIGIBLE. AND SO THE INCOME ELIGIBILITY STIPULATED BY ARPA IS BY THE FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE. THERE'S A FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINE. WHEN THE PROGRAM FIRST STARTED, IT WAS 300%. I BELIEVE WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND THAT MAY HAVE SHIFTED, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE US TREASURY AND THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND TO SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS. BUT YES, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT. WE HAVE THE PREQUALIFIED CONTRACTORS ALREADY IN PLACE. SO WE'RE IN, IN ESSENCE, RECEIVING THE APPLICATIONS. [04:00:04] IF THEY CAN'T BE THROUGH THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE FIELDING THEM THROUGH US. WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE CITIZENS TO ASK THEM THE PERTINENT QUESTIONS. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD? HOW MUCH IS THE INCOME OF THE HOUSEHOLD? IF THEY FALL IN THAT GUIDELINE, THEN WE GO AHEAD AND WE ASK THEM TO COME IN AND WE ASK THEM THE QUESTIONS, OKAY, WHERE IS YOUR TANK? LET'S LOOK AT THIS. LET'S LOOK AT THAT. WE HAVE A CHECKLIST OF THINGS THAT WE LOOK FOR THROUGH ARPA. IF ALL THE BOXES ARE CHECKED WE GO AHEAD AND WE SAY OKAY, THEY'RE READY TO GO. AND THAT THAT PORTION OF IT THEN UTILITIES TAKES OVER THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE OF IT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AT. OKAY THEN. AND THAT MONEY HAS TO BE EXPENDED BY WHEN IT HAS TO BE EXPENDED BY DECEMBER OF 2026. SO IN TWO YEARS AND WE'RE EVERYONE EVERYTHING'S IN PLACE. CORRECT. ACCORDING TO MASTER CHIEF BATTON, HE DOES NOT WANT TO RETURN THAT MONEY TO THE FEDERAL. NEITHER DO WE. WE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT THE MEDIUM, THE POVERTY LEVEL BY THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES. CAN YOU GIVE ME A FIGURE? IT WAS AT 3% WHEN WE FIRST STARTED IT. YEAH. THE US TREASURY STATED THAT IT WAS 3%, AND THAT'S THE WAY WE WROTE IT IN THE PROGRAM. BUT THERE'S ALWAYS CHANGES WHENEVER YOU'RE DEALING WITH GRANTS. CAN YOU GIVE ME LIKE A MONETARY AMOUNT? YEAH. AND AND I COULD EMAIL YOU THAT. YEAH. HE'S LOOKING FOR A NUMBER. WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. CAN YOU ALL RIGHT. WORK WITH. BECAUSE 3% IT'S 300%. IT GOES. THEY HAVE YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY OF ONE, IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY OF TWO. OH I SEE. ALL THE WAY DOWN. AND THEN IT GOES BY. THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T GIVE ME A NUMBER. OKAY. YEAH. WELL, CAN YOU GIVE BILL BARTON HIS SPECIFIC NUMBER? OKAY. THANK YOU. MA'AM. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. YES. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 15. DEPUTY MAYOR, MR. FISHER. MR. FISHER IS GONE. MR. FISHER? YEAH. HE LEFT. HE LEFT? YEAH. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON NEW. HEY, BEFORE WE GO TO NEW BUSINESS, I NEED A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. MAYBE. MAYBE THREE. YEAH. MAYBE THREE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. LADIES, WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER TWO. MADAM SHERMAN. THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO FOR THIS ITEM, I'M GOING TO BRING UP EVE SPERATI ONE MORE TIME. SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB TONIGHT. BUT THIS IS THE DISCUSSION ON THE REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS PROCESS FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, FOR IDEAS FOR THE EVANS CENTER. SO WE'LL TALK THROUGH THAT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. SO, AS COUNCIL KNOWS ON AUGUST 1ST, AT THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, YOU DIRECTED STAFF TO PUBLISH A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION OR AN RFI TO SOLICIT INPUT FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITIES AT THE EVANS CENTER FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROVIDING SERVICES THAT BENEFIT PALM BAY YOUTH AND AT RISK YOUTH. THE REQUEST FOR THE INFORMATION ONLY. AND SO THE CITY PUBLISHED THE RFI ON MONDAY, AUGUST 12TH. WE RECEIVED FOUR SUBMISSIONS. WE RECEIVED FOUR SUBMISSIONS FROM FOUR DIFFERENT LOCAL AGENCIES CLUB, ESTEEM, MACEDONIA, CRA AND MECA ACROSS THE BOARD, MOST OF THE AGENCIES DID PROVIDE SKILL BUILDING, CULINARY ARTS, HEATING, VENTILATION, AIR CONDITIONING, FINANCIAL LITERACY AND STEM PROGRAMS. THE GENERAL CONSENSUS FROM ALL THE AGENCIES WHO SUBMITTED A RESPONSE TO THE RFI PROPOSE AN APPROPRIATE GOAL OF SERVING 50 TO 100 INDIVIDUAL YOUTH PARTICIPANTS ANNUALLY, AND ALL AGENCIES IDENTIFIED AFTER SCHOOL HOURS FOR THEIR PROGRAM OPERATIONS AND A FEW OFFERING WEEKEND HOURS. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE ASKING FOR A MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY TO PUBLISH A REQUEST FOR APPLICATIONS OR AN RFA TO MOVE FORWARD WITH HAVING PROPOSALS COME BACK AND BRING THEM BACK TO COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT AGENCIES YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OCCUPY [04:05:04] THE EDMONDS CENTER. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO KICK THIS OFF. I THINK THEY WERE ALL GOOD PROGRAMS, RIGHT. AND PERHAPS THEY COULD WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. BUT I GOT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. WHEN I LOOKED AT THESE, THE ONE THAT STUCK OUT THE MOST TO ME WAS MACEDONIA. AND NOW SAYING THAT WE'RE TALKING STEM, WE'RE TALKING HVAC. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN HVAC PROGRAM, TO HAVE OUR YOUTH ABLE TO TO GET CERTIFIED, THIS IS A GAME CHANGER. THIS THIS GIVES THEM SUCH A SKILL AND A TRADE. I MEAN, WHO EVERYBODY IN FLORIDA NEEDS AC. RIGHT? AND SO I WAS REALLY MOTIVATED. AND THEN WITH THE CULINARY NOW I WILL SAY THIS WITH THESE THINGS, I WANTED MORE DETAIL. RIGHT. LIKE I WANT TO KNOW I KNOW IT SAYS WITH A CERTIFIED CULINARY CHEF, I WANTED TO KNOW MORE DETAILS OF THE HVAC TRAINING PROGRAM. I WANTED TO KNOW HOW CAN WE HONE IN ON THIS? BECAUSE HOW MANY KIDS ARE THEY SERVING? RIGHT. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE BEST PRACTICES. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T PERFORM AT THAT LEVEL? THAT THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING THAT TOO, BECAUSE I CAN, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT THEY WOULD PROMISE US THE WORLD, BUT WE YOU TALK ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. MY MY CONCERNS ARE THAT WE DON'T HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. I LOVE WHAT I SEE I LOVED EACH PROGRAM, BUT THIS ONE STUCK OUT THE MOST FOR ME BECAUSE OF THAT HVAC AND THE CULINARY PROGRAM, WE WE'RE LITERALLY TRAINING OUR YOUTH TO TO SUCCEED. AND I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION THAT CNA OPPORTUNITY. RIGHT. BUT THAT HVAC AND CULINARY PROGRAM REALLY, REALLY GOT TO ME. I EVEN GOT EXCITED WHEN WHEN I WAS BEING BRIEFED WITH THE CITY MANAGER, I SAID, MAN, THIS IS A WIN WIN. IF WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING THAT, RIGHT. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON ON THAT GENTLEMAN. ANYWAY, I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR. YEAH. I ALSO WAS IMPRESSED WITH MACEDONIA. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I THINK THE, THE HEALTH CARE JOB TRAINING IS, IS IS REALLY GOOD. AND THE ALSO THE HVAC PROGRAM AND THE CULINARY PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO SEE AS PART OF YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SEND THIS OUT FOR AN RFA IS IS REQUIRE THAT WHOEVER YOU KNOW BIDS ON THIS MUST OFFER A A COURSE IN FINANCIAL LITERACY. BECAUSE I DON'T CARE WHAT BUSINESS YOU KIDS GO INTO IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW TO MANAGE MONEY. THEY'RE JUST SPINNING THEIR WHEELS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, TODAY, KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL REALLY DON'T LEARN FINANCIAL LITERACY. AND I THINK THAT CAN CAUSE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE. SO THERE'S THAT. AND I THINK I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE AGAIN, ANOTHER REQUIREMENT IN ADDITION TO THAT IS THAT WHOEVER WE AWARD THIS BID TO DOES OFFER A CULINARY TRAINING PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO UTILIZE THE THE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN AND THE AVON CENTER AND TO UTILIZE THE AVON CENTER TO ITS FULLEST, YOU KNOW, CAPACITY. SO I THINK THAT THOSE, THOSE TWO ITEMS SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT IN THE, IN THE, THE RFA. COPY THAT, SIR. AND CARRY ON. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. OR WERE YOU. WERE YOU DONE, SIR? YES, SIR. OKAY. YEAH. YES, MA'AM. YEAH, WE'RE TALKING FIRST. WE'RE JUST TALKING AMONG OURSELVES. DON'T WORRY. WE'RE GOING TO CALL YOU UP. YEAH. I WAS IMPRESSED WITH ALL OF THEM, BUT I DEFINITELY REMEMBERING MY SERVICE ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD. I ALSO WANT US TO CONSIDER PAST PERFORMANCES. I DON'T BELIEVE MACEDONIA HAS ANYTHING IN PLACE SET YET ON SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT CLUB ESTEEM DOES FINANCIAL LITERACY. AND THEY THEY HAVE TRIED AND TRUE RECORD OF PROVIDING THE SERVICES. MAYBE LIKE YOU SAID, MAYBE THEY CAN THEY CAN PARTNER TOGETHER. YEAH. LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE BEST CASE SCENARIO OF THEM PARTNERING TOGETHER. AND THAT MIGHT BE JUST A CONVERSATION. OUR STAFF MIGHT HAVE WITH THEM, LIKE SAY, HEY, HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THIS? SO. BUT EITHER WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE A WIN. IT'S JUST ABOUT, YOU KNOW, IT. YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL. SO I'M EXCITED. YEAH. NO, I AM TOO. I WAS QUITE SURPRISED THAT THE BOYS CLUB DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THIS EITHER. RIGHT? I WAS REALLY AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION. WHY? AND BUT WE CAN'T FORCE FOLKS TO APPLY. BUT PERHAPS IN OUR NEXT STEP. RIGHT. BUT NO, I AGREE WITH YOU. CLUB ESTEEM HAS A GREAT REPUTATION. [04:10:01] THEY HAVE FOR YEARS. AND THEY HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE OF CREATING THAT MARKET RESEARCH, CREATING THOSE, THOSE, THOSE STEM PROGRAMS AS WELL. SO. YEAH. NO, I THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING MORE OF A, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT MAXIMIZING THE SPACE THAT WE HAVE. WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT BEFORE. AND THAT INCLUDES THIS. THAT INCLUDES THE EVANS CENTER. THAT INCLUDES EVERY FACILITY THAT WE HAVE. RIGHT. THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MESSAGE WE'VE BEEN SENDING FOR AT LEAST A YEAR NOW. RIGHT. SO. YES, SIR. BUT ANY ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD BEFORE WE GO TO SPEAKERS? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH WITH MOST, IF NOT ALL OF THE THE APPLICANTS. CERTAINLY THEY PAY ATTENTION TO EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR IN TERMS OF OUR SCOPE AND THE OUR VISION COUNCIL VISION FOR THAT, FOR THAT BUILDING, FOR THAT FACILITY. BUT I'M MOST IMPRESSED WITH THIS APPLICATION, WHICH IS THE GIVE ME ONE. BEAR WITH ME FOR A SECOND. I KNOW MR. ALBERTA IS HERE IN, YOU KNOW, IN OUR AUDIENCE. SEE OUR CRA THAT HE'S HER HER ORGANIZATION. IF YOU LOOK TO YOU READ THROUGH IT, MAYOR. THEY YOU KNOW, THEY COVER THE CULINARY ARTS PROGRAM, MEDIA ARTS AND, YOU KNOW, AVIATION, GENERAL EDUCATION TOUCH ON THAT FINANCIAL LITERACY. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG TALKED ABOUT PERSONAL FINANCE. MANAGEMENT. BUSINESS. FINANCE. BUSINESS. FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT. IT'S TRULY AN ARRAY OF OF OF DIFFERENT PROGRAM, THE LEVEL OF DETAIL OF THE APPLICATIONS. AND REALLY THEY DO AN EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT JOB TOUCHING ON EVERYTHING. TO AS WE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN OUR SCOPE. I TRULY THINK THAT THEY REALLY ANSWER EVERY ASPECT OF WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR. CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT IF FOR TO ALLOW THESE TO ALLOW ALL OF THEM TO APPLY. BUT I KNOW MR. ALBERTO AS WELL, AND SHE'LL SHE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEAK MORE TO THAT. SHE HAS A GREAT MODEL ON EXISTING. PROVING MODEL OF WHAT THEY'RE COPYING SOMETHING THAT HAS WORKED IN ORLANDO AND A COUPLE OF OTHER PLACES. SHE'LL SPEAK TO THAT MORE. SHE'S EVEN OFFERING AS FAR AS TO PURCHASING THE BUILDING. NOW, I KNOW WITH WHAT WE DISCUSSED IS, IS AND PAY FULL PRICE FOR IT AND SOME. BUT I WON'T GET INTO THAT DETAIL. BUT SHE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HER PROGRAM. WHY WOULD SHE WANT TO OWN THE ORGANIZATION? WOULD WANT TO OWN THE THE BUILDING. AND THEY ARE A 500 1C3. SO THEY MEET ALL SCOPE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND ON WHAT WE PAID FOR THE BUILDING TO RUN, TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING. WE'VE WE'VE ASKED WITHIN OUR SCOPE OF, OF OF THIS, THE VISION OF COUNCIL. CERTAINLY I WOULD SUPPORT THAT. BUT EVEN GIVING OUR STAFF DIRECTION TO CONSIDER THE OFFER TO PURCHASE THE FACILITY TO DO THE EXACT VISION THAT COUNCIL HAS TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENT, SIR, AND WE'LL WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT. WELL THAT'S INTERESTING. EVEN MORE SO. YOU'RE RIGHT. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I WAS MOTIVATED. HVAC IS A CAREER. I MEAN, LIKE, TURNKEY. AND I SEE THAT THEY HAVE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AVIONICS AND ALL OF THAT WITH ALBERTA KINGSVILLE. I SEE ALL OF THAT. AND THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY AN INVESTMENT IN THEIR LIVES. BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CULINARY ARTS, RIGHT. AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HVAC, THAT'S AN INSTANT. THESE GUYS CAN GO START WORKING, WHETHER THEY'RE APPRENTICE AND THEY'RE THEY'RE ABLE TO REALLY PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES. THEY'LL SEE THEY'LL FEEL THAT THAT SELF ESTEEM, IF YOU WILL, WHEN YOU HAVE A CAREER JOB LIKE THAT. SO THEY COULD EVEN BECOME BUSINESS OWNERS. SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. MAYBE ALBERTA CAN INCLUDE THAT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'D BE GREAT. MAYBE. I GUESS WE COULD ASK HER. BUT THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. SPEAKER CARDS. DEPUTY MAYOR. SO SANTA ISABEL IS NOT HERE. MISS ALBERTA? YEAH. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALBERTA CLINKSCALES. [04:15:04] I LIVE AT 500 BERNARDO AVENUE NORTHEAST PALM BAY. AS I SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO YOU ALL TODAY, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY HOMELESSNESS AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CHALLENGES FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AND ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK ABOUT WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE EVANS CENTER IS THAT ONE PROGRAM IN THAT FACILITY IS NOT GOING TO DO THE KIND OF TRANSFORMATIVE CHANGE THE COMMUNITY NEEDS. SO EVEN IF IT WAS MY PROGRAM ON ITS OWN, IT WOULDN'T IT WOULDN'T DO THE WORK THAT IT NEEDS TO DO TO TRANSFORM THAT AREA. NORTHEAST PALM BAY AND SOUTH MELBOURNE HAVE HAD MANY SHOOTINGS. YOUNG PEOPLE NONPRODUCTIVE, HANGING ON THE CORNERS IN FRONT OF THE STORES AND THINGS RIGHT THERE IN THAT COMMUNITY. AND SO THE COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION ALLIANCE, FORMERLY KNOWN AS SPACE COAST CULTURAL ARTS AND BUSINESS ORGANIZATION, RESTRUCTURED TO BECOME AN ALLIANCE. AND SO WE WORK WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS, AND OUR GOAL IS TO COORDINATE THE WORK THAT WE ALL ARE DOING, BECAUSE THE TRANSFORMATION WILL NOT COME WITH INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES. AND SO AS WE COORDINATE OURSELVES, WE BECOME THE COMMUNITY QUARTERBACK ORGANIZATION. AND THE MODEL THAT WE'RE USING IS CALLED PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITIES. AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT LYFT ORLANDO, THERE IS THERE IS EVIDENCE TO THIS MODEL AND WE'RE BEING VETTED. WE'VE BEEN TO ATLANTA. WE DID THE TOUR. WE SEEING HOW PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITY WORK FIRSTHAND. OF COURSE, WE'VE TAKEN TOURS IN ORLANDO, LOOKED AT THE LYFT ORLANDO MODEL. WE'RE GOING UP TO JACKSONVILLE TO LOOK AT THEIR THEIR MODEL, WHICH THEIR ALL PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITIES. BUT WHAT COMES WITH PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITIES ONCE YOU'RE VETTED AND WE'RE IN THE VETTING PROCESS ONCE YOU'RE VETTED, YOU GET PRO BONO STRATEGIC PLANNING COACHING TO SUPPORT BUILDING CAPACITY, AND YOU ATTRACT FUNDERS. AND SO THE CITY DOESN'T NEED TO BE. THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS THAT IT'S RESIDENT CENTERED. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT WE THINK THE RESIDENTS NEED. WE HOLD MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR, 2023. THE CITY HAS DONE PRESENTATIONS JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF MODELS ARE AVAILABLE AS WELL. AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TO PURCHASE THE FACILITY SO WE CAN BE A QUARTERBACK FOR SUSTAINABLE GROWTH AND SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT. EVANS WAS GOING TO BE CLOSED. I WANTED IT TO STAY OPEN. I INVESTED $1,000. WE WERE TRYING TO GET 150 PEOPLE TO DO THAT. WE COULDN'T DO IT. SO I LOST MY THOUSAND DOLLARS. SO I'M ALREADY INVESTED, INVESTED IN IT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULDN'T HAVE THE ROLE OF COORDINATING WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CENTER FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. SO AS A REVITALIZATION MODEL, THAT IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN THAT CENTER. AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE CITY OF MELBOURNE WILL BE GREATLY IMPROVED BECAUSE OF IT. SO AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING. WE WANT TO BUY IT. SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH STAFF. WE HAD A MEETING, RODNEY EDWARDS WAS THERE, DENISE CARTER AND THE REST OF THE CREW, AND EVANS WAS THERE AND THEY TOLD US WHAT THE PRICE POINT WOULD BE. AND WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT. SO WE WANT TO TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR HANDS AND WE BECOME A PARTNER WITH YOU. SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR STAFF TRYING TO COORDINATE WHAT HAPPENS THERE. WE CAN DO THAT WORK. OH, THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU, MISS ALBERTA. IF I MAY ASK YOU A QUESTION, I THINK ONE THING MISSING COMPONENT. ALSO, THERE'S A THERE'S A FORMULA TO BE ABLE TO TO RAISE THE FUNDING THAT YOU NEED. THERE IS CONDITION AS WELL. THOSE SOURCES IMPOSE THAT YOU MUST OWN THE BUILDING WAS THAT WAS THAT PART. COULD THAT IS THAT A CONDITION AS WELL? NO. WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY OWN THE BUILDING TO DO THIS. WE WANT TO OWN THE BUILDING SO THAT WE HAVE AUTONOMY. SOME OF THE PROGRAMING THAT WE WANT TO DO, YOU CAN'T DO IT THROUGH A 9 TO 5. SOME OF THESE YOUNG MEN ARE ON THE CORNERS, 12 IN THE MORNING. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 1:00 IN THE MORNING. AND SO WHAT ARE WE DOING AT THOSE TIMES? I MEAN, SO WE DON'T WANT TO BE UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF A GOVERNMENT AGENCY WHICH SAYS, YOU GOT TO OPEN THIS TIME. YOU GOT TO CLOSE THIS TIME. SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS ARE OUT OF THE BOX. WE GOT TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX. MEDIA ARTS IS IN THERE. NOT BECAUSE WE LIKE MEDIA ARTS. MEDIA ARTS IS IN THERE BECAUSE THE BROTHERS ON THE CORNER WANTED TO DO BE RAPPERS. THEY WANT TO MAKE MUSIC. THEY WANT TO DO. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT US. IT HAS TO BE COMMUNITY LED. IT HAS TO BE RESIDENT LED. AND SO THESE MEETINGS WE'VE BEEN HAVING OVER THE LAST YEAR, I SERVE THAT COMMUNITY. WE'VE BEEN SERVING THAT COMMUNITY SINCE 2015. AND OUR BUILDING, WE WAS RIGHT ON WASHINGTON STREET, RIGHT ACROSS FROM EVANS. WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST USERS OF EVANS BECAUSE OUR LITTLE RICKETY, RAGGEDY BUILDING DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A NICE SPACE. SO WE WOULD GO OVER THERE AND USE THEIR SPACE. [04:20:01] AND SO I KNOW THAT COMMUNITY VERY WELL, AND I THINK THAT I DON'T CARE WHAT PROGRAM YOU PUT IN THERE, YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING TO STOP SHOOTING? NO, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A COORDINATED STRATEGY FOR COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE. AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS MODEL IS EVIDENCE BASED. IT IS. IT COMES WITH GREATER FUNDING. SO OUR JOB IS TO RAISE MONEY, TO BRING MONEY IN SO THAT ALL THESE NONPROFITS THAT YOU WANT TO PUT THE HOMELESS PROBLEM ON, THAT THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THE WORK. SO THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE MODEL. SO WE WOULD BE COORDINATING OUT OF THAT BUILDING. SO AND THEN ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS WOULD BE ABLE TO WE WOULD LOOK FOR FUNDS FOR THEIR PROGRAMS AS WELL. SO YOU WOULD FUNDRAISE TO PURCHASE THE LOCATION. NO. WE ALREADY HAVE SOMEBODY INTERESTED IN IN IN US PURCHASING IT. SO YEAH. SO WE HAVE THE CASH ON HAND. WE'LL HAVE IT IN JANUARY. MADAM CHAIRMAN, WHAT'S THE PRICE TAG ON THAT. WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE FROM RODNEY EDWARDS WHO TOLD US WHAT HE THINKS, BUT I WELL, THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING OF THIS. REALLY AT THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL, WE HAVE NOT SET UP. WE KNOW WHAT WE BOUGHT IT FOR, BUT WE HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE PRICE FOR IT, NOR YET TO SEE WHAT'S THE PRICE TAG? MISS ALBERTA? YES, MA'AM. SO WHAT WE WOULD NEGOTIATE IS 1.2 MILLION IS WHERE WE WOULD WANT TO GO. HE GAVE US A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. HE SAID 1.5. DOES THAT SOUND ABOUT RIGHT, MA'AM? HE WASN'T NEGOTIATING. I'M. I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO NEGOTIATE THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, NOR HAS COUNCIL GIVEN DIRECTION THAT WE WERE GOING IN THAT DIRECTION RIGHT NOW. NO, NO. BUT YEAH. NO. IF IF I'M IN AGREEMENT, WE SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS BUSINESS. RIGHT. IF THEY HAVE A PROVEN PROGRAM TO TO KICK START IT. BUT AT WHAT POINT YOU KNOW, SO THOSE NEGOTIATIONS CAN ENSUE. BUT IF THEY HAVE A PROVEN MODEL, THEN WE'RE GOING DOWN THE WRONG PATH OF US TRYING TO DO THIS. I BELIEVE IF THEY HAVE A PROVEN MODEL. I KNOW WE'VE GIVEN DIRECTION, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY. I BELIEVE THAT'S BEFORE US. THAT SHIFTS OUR OUR OUR VISION. NO, I THINK WE WERE FILLING IN. YEAH. NO, BUT IT SHIFTS OUR VISION AS FAR AS WE WERE RESPONSIBLE. THE VISION IS STILL THERE IN REGARDS TO WE. WE DIDN'T FORESEE. THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY, BUT I THINK THERE WAS WISDOM IN WHAT YOU DID. YOU DIDN'T TRY TO JUST SELL IT TO ANYBODY. YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO KEEP IT AS A COMMUNITY RESOURCE. CORRECT. WHICH WAS EXCELLENT. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO. YOU DON'T YOU DON'T NEED TO BE IN THAT BUSINESS OF TRYING TO COORDINATE, RIGHT? NO, I APPRECIATE YOU, MAN. THANK YOU. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. SO, MAYOR. THANK YOU. SO LET ME JUST LET ME I'M GOING TO REDIRECT. THANK YOU. MISS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, MADAM SHERMAN, THIS IS A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY HERE. WHERE THIS DISCUSSION I HAD NO IDEA WAS GOING TO ENSUE. I, I KIND OF LOVED THIS IDEA. I, I THINK I GOT DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON COUNCILMAN WEINBERG HASN'T WEIGHED IN YET. I'LL BE HAPPY TO WEIGH IN. YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. OKAY. A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS, IS THE EVAN CENTER HAS BEEN UNDER PRIVATE OWNERSHIP BEFORE, AND IT FAILED. THAT'S WHY WE AS A CITY HAD TO STEP IN. LOOK, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS A CITY FUNCTION AS WELL. I THINK IF WE IF WE GO AHEAD AND SELL THE PARK. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MISS KINGSDALE, SHE HAS AN EXCELLENT REPUTATION. I'M AWARE OF IT, BUT BUT IF WE IF WE SELL THE PROPERTY, WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHAT HAPPENS TO IT, WHETHER HER PROGRAMS ARE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. I'D LIKE. AND AS YOU HEARD HER SAY, THAT OWNERSHIP OF THE BUILDING IS NOT INCUMBENT UPON UPON HER. YOU KNOW HER HER BUSINESS AND AND BEING ABLE TO RUN THIS PROGRAM OUT OF OUT OF THE EVANS CENTER, EVEN UNDER OUR OWNERSHIP, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CITY MAINTAIN IT AS A, AS A, AS A CITY FACILITY TO ENCOURAGE YOUTH TO HELP TRAIN THEM, WHETHER IT'S WITH MISS LYNSDALE OR SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER ENTITY. BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT UPON US TO KEEP IT UNDER THE CITY'S CONTROL. LIKE I SAID, WE WENT THIS ROUTE ONCE BEFORE AND IT YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T WORK. I MEAN, IF MISS CLYDESDALE, IF WE WE ASSIGN IT TO HER AND SHE'S VERY SUCCESSFUL. HEY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT. BECAUSE WE NEED SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE CITY. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY MAINTAIN OWNERSHIP OF THE EVANS CENTER AND AND HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT. I MEAN, THIS IS JUST BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOING TO BE A 9 TO 5 KIND OF OPERATION. [04:25:04] YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH, WITH WITH YOU OR WHOMEVER. TO TO OFFER AS MANY AS MANY PROGRAMS AS YOU FEEL WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL AND, AND WHATEVER HOURS ARE NECESSARY OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOU YOU NEED TO TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND CERTAINLY AS A CITY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HELP YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. IT DOESN'T MATTER. NO, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR. THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES, SIR. MADAM CHAIRMAN. JUST SHED SOME LIGHT A LITTLE BIT ON THE HISTORY OF OF THIS PROPERTY. I REMEMBER CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. IT WAS A PUBLIC PRIVATE WITH THE CITY HOLDING A LIEN OF SOME SORT, THAT WE HAD A STAKE IN THIS PROPERTY, AND AND THE BUSINESS DID FAIL, AS COUNCILMAN WEINBERG MENTIONED. BUT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY AND AND WHY WE WE OBTAINED THE PROPERTY AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE WERE TO SELL IT. WELL THE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY IS THAT I'LL GO A LITTLE FAR BACK, AND THEN I'LL COME FORWARD. SO IT WAS A FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IT WAS A IT WAS A COMMUNITY STORE AND, YOU KNOW, A VERY POPULAR PLACE. BUT THEN IT FELL INTO DIFFICULT TIMES AND IT WASN'T WELL MAINTAINED AND BECAME A BLIGHT ISSUE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT BECAME A CODE ISSUE, BECAME A POLICE ISSUE. AND ULTIMATELY MANY YEARS AGO, THE CITY TOOK OWNERSHIP OF THE PROPERTIES, TORE DOWN THE OLD BUILDINGS, AND AT THE TIME WE STILL HAD THE CRA. AND SO THE CRA WAS INVOLVED IN A KIND OF LIKE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OF SORTS, WHERE A NONPROFIT CAME IN. THE CRA CONTRIBUTED FUNDING TO A PROJECT, AND A BUILDING WAS BUILT, THE EVANS CENTER, THE NEW EVANS CENTER. AND YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED THE FACT THAT THE NONPROFIT FOLKS THAT WERE RUNNING THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO CONTINUE THAT PROJECT. SO YOU KNOW, WITH COUNCIL'S PERMISSION A LITTLE EARLIER, WE WENT AHEAD AND BOUGHT IT BACK BECAUSE THE DESIRE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS MAINTAINED AS SOMETHING THAT WAS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY. SO THE FEEDBACK WE GOT FROM RESIDENTS WAS THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO JUST BECOME A COMMERCIAL ENTITY. FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEONE BUY IT AND TURN IT INTO, FOR EXAMPLE, A CONVENIENCE STORE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE HANGING OUT, YOU KNOW, IN IN THAT LOCATION AGAIN. SO IT'S INTERESTING. SO WE, YOU KNOW, THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ALL ABOUT THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO OPERATE OUT OF IT TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN. IF THE PIVOT TONIGHT IS THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO LOOK AT SELLING IT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO KIND OF STOP THIS PROCESS COMPLETELY AND REALLY REGROUP AND START AGAIN. BECAUSE WE, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST SELL A CITY PROPERTY TO THE FIRST ONE THAT COMES ALONG, WHOEVER THAT MAY BE. EVEN IF WE LIKE THEM A WHOLE LOT, THERE HAS TO BE A VERY PUBLIC VETTING PROCESS. WE HAVE TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS, PUT THE NOTICE OUT, ETC. SO IF YOU WANT US TO SHIFT AND CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT MODEL THAT THE RFI GAVE US THIS DATA FOR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ON THINGS LIKE WHAT CRITERIA OR ABILITY TO CONTROL COULD WE ESTABLISH TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE, THAT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT AND INTENT OF THE USE OF THE BUILDING CONTINUES ON INTO THE FUTURE? BECAUSE ONCE YOU SELL IT, OBVIOUSLY THE ABILITY TO CONTROL CHANGES. I, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT. THEY WERE EXCITED WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT. BUT THOSE WOULD BE MY INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THAT. THAT IDEA. UNDERSTOOD. SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS IF WE PIVOT WE'RE WE HAVEN'T EVEN STUDIED THIS AND THE REPERCUSSIONS OF IT, WE WOULD HAVE TO NEGOTIATE, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN UP AND SEE WHO WOULD WANT TO APPLY TO PURCHASE THE FACILITY. AM I LISTENING? YES. WE HAVE OUR OUR PROPERTY. OUR POLICY FOR OUR OUR PROPERTIES. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? YES. IF YOU REMEMBER, AS PART OF WHEN WE PURCHASED AND AGREED TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FROM THE EVANS CENTER, THEY HAD A MORTGAGE FROM. IT WAS ONE OF THE STATE ENTITIES WHO AGREED THAT IF THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE SOLD TO US AS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, THAT THEY WOULD FORGIVE IT, WHICH I'M SURE WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. IT WASN'T FOR US ESSENTIALLY TO FLIP IT, WHICH IS PERHAPS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE EVEN IF THERE AREN'T ANY RESTRICTIONS IN THERE, WHICH WE'D HAVE TO LOOK, WE MAY ACTUALLY WANT TO DO THIS IN AGAIN. AND WE'VE KIND OF RUINED OUR REPUTATION WHERE, YOU KNOW WELL. HEY, FORGIVE THIS MALL IN THE CITY IS GOING TO COME IN AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE SAW WHAT YOU DID BEFORE. [04:30:03] WE FORGAVE ALL OF THIS MONEY AND YOU JUST FLIPPED IT. SO WE PROBABLY SHOULD ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT MORE BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AS FAR AS OUR SELLING THE PROPERTY UNDERSTOOD. AND THAT THAT THAT WOULD YEAH, THAT WOULD JEOPARDIZE OUR REPUTATION IN, IN SO MANY WAYS. RIGHT. I THINK THE KEY, AS COUNCILMAN WEINBERG SHARED HIS WISDOM IS MISS CLINKSCALE SAID THAT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T PREVENT HER FROM BRINGING THE PROGRAM. IT DOES. PURCHASING THE LOCATION DOESN'T PREVENT HER FROM BRINGING THE PROGRAM. SO AT THIS POINT, WE WE WE STARTED THIS. I'M GOING TO SIDE WITH COUNCILMAN WEINBERG IN, IN PRECAUTION AND JUST SAY LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO SEE WHO CAN BRING A PROGRAM AT THIS POINT. I THINK IT'S WISDOM. WE OUR REPUTATION, GENTLEMEN FLIPPING IT, ALTHOUGH IT DID SOUND ENCOURAGING FOR ME. IT APPEARS WOULD BE GOING DOWN THE WRONG PATH. AND I'M BEING TRANSPARENT. SO, GENTLEMEN WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? WHAT WHAT? NO, I WELL, I, I'VE HEARD ALL THE COMMENTS. I TEND TO FEEL DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT. HERE'S WHY. I'M LOOKING AT AN APPLICANT THAT CARRIED FORWARD OUR VISION, THE VERY VISION WE HAVE. AND ENTERING IN THE LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH I'VE DONE ABOUT PURPOSE BUILT COMMUNITY, THE LIFT ORLANDO MODEL THAT PROGRAM PROVED TO WORK. AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, RELATIONSHIP MATTERS. IT'S IMPORTANT. I KNOW ALBERTA FOR OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE SAT DOWN IN THOSE VERY MEETINGS AT MACEDONIA, THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS SHARING IDEAS. AND HOW DO WE CONTRIBUTE TO CHANGE THE FACE OR TO CHANGE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE IN THAT VERY COMMUNITY? I'VE SEEN YOU FROM THAT TIME. WHAT YOU'VE DONE PERSONALLY, GO GET ALL THESE CERTIFICATIONS, LEARN. YOU TAKE THE TIME. YOU PUT THE TIME IN NECESSARY TIME IN THE KNOWLEDGE. YOU LEARN ABOUT THIS WHOLE PROCESS. COMMUNITY BUILDING. I'VE SEEN THAT THE LAST TEN YEARS. THAT'S WHAT THIS LADY IS HERE. SHE'S COMMITTED. SHE'S A REGISTERED NURSE, BUT SHE PUTS SO MUCH TIME. THIS IS SOMEBODY THE LAST DECADE, SHE GIVES SO MUCH TO THIS COMMUNITY IN TERMS OF REALLY TRYING TO TO CHANGE THE FACE AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE. AND I KNOW SHE'S IN IT FOR REAL. I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE AND BELIEVE WHAT SHE SAID. PUT ON PAPER TODAY. SOME OF THE OTHER APPLICATIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN DELIVER, BUT I WOULD TRULY BELIEVE THAT SHE CAN DELIVER EVERYTHING SHE SAID SHE COULD. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DIGRESS AND YEAH, WELL, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD, LET EVERYBODY APPLY AND AND MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. SO, MADAM SHERMAN, WHAT DO YOU NEED? A MOTION FOR US TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP. WHAT DO YOU NEED? YES, SIR. REGARDING MOVING FROM THE RFP PROCESS INTO THE RFP PROCESS. SO. OKAY. SO I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. I. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE ARE NOW ON REPORTS. COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST TWO REALLY BRIEF BRIEFINGS. ON SATURDAY THE 26TH. [COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:] THAT'S NOT THIS SATURDAY, BUT THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY. THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT'S FALL FEST IS FROM 5 TO 9 P.M. AT 1951 MALABAR ROAD. IT'S A FREE EVENT. THE ONLY OTHER THING IS, IS YESTERDAY WAS THE DEPUTY MAYOR OF FELIX'S BIRTHDAY. SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY. HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEPUTY MAYOR. AND THAT'S ALL HE JUST, WHAT, 30 YEARS NOW? OH, YOU HAVE GRAY HAIR. SO, YEAH. YOU STARTED AT 33. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. COUNCIL. NO COMMENT. DEPUTY MAYOR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. I'LL TRY TO BE LEAVE IT ON A POSITIVE NOTE. WE HAD SOME CHALLENGES IN, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH THE, YOU KNOW, RECENT HURRICANE, HURRICANE MILTON, WHERE WE ARE VERY BLESSED AND BLESSED THE STATE. FOR WHAT THE MEDIA WAS PUTTING OUT THERE AND THEN. IN VERSES. WHAT? WHAT TO WHAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN. WE WERE VERY BLESSED. I JUST WANT TO SHARE WELL, POST HURRICANE MILTON, WE HAD SOME ISSUES AND AND I THINK MARY TALKED ABOUT THAT. [04:35:01] MISS SHERMAN WENT IN DETAIL AS FAR AS SOME OF OUR CHALLENGES AND WITH THE SPILLAGE AND SO ON. AND, AND OF COURSE, I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN CALLED OUT POLITICAL ATTACKS. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. I'M A BIG BOY. I CAN HANDLE IT. YOU KNOW, I GOT POLITICIANS LOCALLY THAT CALL ME OUT. BLAME IT ALL ON ME. IT'S MY FAULT, THIS GUY. IT WAS MY FAULT. IT'S VERY, VERY SHAMEFUL. BUT. BUT IT'S OKAY. YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN, I CAN TAKE IT. IT'S ALL RIGHT. AND VERY, VERY PROUD OF OF OUR STAFF AND THE THE DILIGENCE AND HOW THEY RESPOND TO THAT. SO JUST JUST SOME SOME SUMMARIZE THE WHOLE THING. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT THAT WAS MY RESPONSE TO THE NAYSAYERS AND THE THE CRITIQUES BLAMING ME FOR THE SPILLAGE. SO THIS WAS MY RESPONSE TO TO THAT BRIAN, THANK YOU. DURING LAST WEEK'S STORM, A CRITICAL PIECE OF STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE GAVE WAY UNDER INTENSE PRESSURE. HERE'S THE REAL STORY. DURING HURRICANE MILTON, A STORMWATER PIPE FAILED. BUT THE FACT IS, IT WAS ALREADY SLATED FOR REPLACEMENT. OUR CREWS SPRANG INTO ACTION, WORKING ALL NIGHT INTO THE EARLY MORNING HOURS OF OCTOBER 10TH TO MAKE EMERGENCY REPAIRS. PALM BAY ISN'T JUST REACTING. WE'RE PLANNING AHEAD. WE'VE APPROVED $32 MILLION IN CURRENT AND FUTURE STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS. THE PROJECTS INCLUDE PIPELINING AND REPLACEMENT, UPGRADING LIFT STATIONS, ADDING BAFFLE BOXES, AND A NEW WASTEWATER STATION. WE HAVE ALSO INVESTED IN NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WILL PROVIDE ADVANCED NOTICE OF AN IMPENDING BACKUP, AS WELL AS SMART MANHOLE COVERS THAT MONITOR PIPE BLOCKAGES. THESE PROACTIVE MEASURES ENSURE WE'RE READY FOR ANY CHALLENGE MOTHER NATURE THROWS OUR WAY. FROM NEW INFRASTRUCTURE TO SWIFT RESPONSES, PALM BAY IS COMMITTED TO PROTECTING OUR RESIDENTS AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE AND RESILIENT. SO NEXT TIME YOU HEAR ABOUT A STORM WATER ISSUE, REMEMBER WE'RE NOT JUST FIXING PROBLEMS, WE'RE PREVENTING THEM. ALRIGHT, THAT WAS MY RESPONSE TO THE TO THE CRITIQUE. SO YEAH, THIS IS YEAH, WE ARE A RESILIENT GROUP OF PEOPLE. WE HAVE GREAT STAFF AND THEY TRY THEIR BEST TO RESPOND. THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN. THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN TO TO CITIES THAT HAVE GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE. SO SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO CONTROL IT. INCIDENT HAPPENED, BUT IT'S HOW YOU REACT TO IT. SO I CHOSE TO REACT TO TO GO HIGH WHEN THEY GO LOW. SO THANK YOU. THANK THANKS FOR WATCHING. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. MY REPORT IS MORE ALONG THE SAME LINES. WE DID HAVE CHALLENGES, BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU GUYS, I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW THIS BUT I SEE ALL FIRSTHAND OUR OUR TEAM, OUR COMMAND CENTER, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY, EACH AND EVERY ONE GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS, GOING THROUGH SO MANY MEETINGS PRIOR TO THE STORM, POST STORM ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY. UTILITIES REALLY IMPRESSED ME. I REMEMBER WHEN THE CALL WENT OUT AND THEY WERE JUST THERE AND NOT ONLY THERE, BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THE STORM GOING ON THERE, WORKING DILIGENTLY IN THE MIDST OF THE RAIN. AND THEN THE WINDS ARE KICKING UP, RIGHT? PEOPLE FORGET THOSE WINDS WERE KICKING UP, BUT THESE GUYS WERE THERE WORKING HARD. LAW ENFORCEMENT WERE OUT THERE. I THINK CHIEF HAD TO CALL HIM IN A LITTLE BIT AFTER MIDNIGHT. MADAME SHERMAN, I WITNESSED YOUR LEADERSHIP WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD. THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING ME IN THOSE MEETINGS. BUT YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES. AND I WANTED TO THANK EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD FROM OUR PUBLIC SAFETY TO OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS. THEY WERE ON BOARD. EVERY TEAM MEMBER JUST CAME TOGETHER, AND AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR RESOLUTIONS BEFORE THE ISSUES CAME OUT AND IN THAT DISCUSSION. SO I'M QUITE IMPRESSED WITH BUILDING ANY COMING UP. AND WE ARE BUILDING A TEAM AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM THAT CAN TACKLE THINGS AS THEY COME ON AND EVEN BEFORE THEY COME ON. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE PART OF THAT. I'LL. MY COMMITMENT TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY IS I HAVE WORKED 24 OVER SEVEN SOMETIMES, AND I KNOW IT TAKES A TOLL, BUT IT'S ABOUT THE LOVE AND THE DEDICATION THAT THIS TEAM HAS FOR THE CITY. IT'S IMPECCABLE. AND AND I JUST NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING THAT BECAUSE OUR EMPLOYEES, BY FAR, THEY ARE SO DEDICATED AND THEY TRULY CARE ABOUT THEIR JOBS AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU, 140,000 STRONG. AND SO WITH THAT, I SAY WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS. YEARS FROM NOW, WE'LL BE OUT OF OFF THIS DAIS. [04:40:04] BUT, MAN, THE CULTURE THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED HERE IN THIS CITY. KUDOS TO YOU, MA'AM. KUDOS TO EACH AND EVERY DIRECTOR. AND KUDOS TO EACH AND EVERY EMPLOYEE. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR CITY. THAT CONCLUDES MY MY REPORT, MADAM SHERMAN. SAY AGAIN, MADAM SHERMAN MOURA. I SHOULD'VE ENDED THAT WITH A NEW ROWE SAID MADAM CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU SIR, I APPRECIATE IT. [ADMINISTRATIVE AND LEGAL REPORTS:] AND JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO YOUR COMMENTS, WE DO HAVE A TREMENDOUS TEAM AND YOU GOT TO SEE THEM FIRSTHAND PULLING TOGETHER AS THEY DO. AND AND I TRULY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM EVERY DAY. I HAVE THREE THINGS FOR YOU TONIGHT. FIRST IS I SENT AN EMAIL EARLIER. I BELIEVE IT WAS THIS WEEK. MAYBE IT WAS LAST WEEK, BUT THE UPDATE ON THE MAYOR'S BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE EVENT THAT WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY SHARE A COUPLE OF THE DETAILS OF THAT. I MEAN, I DID SEND YOU A VERY THOROUGH EMAIL THAT STAFF PUT TOGETHER ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THE EVENT WAS HELD SEPTEMBER 10TH AT FLORIDA TECH'S CAMPUS. WE INVITED 86 DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS. WE PRESENTED A WIDE RANGE OF UPDATES TO THESE STAKEHOLDERS WHO REPRESENTED VARIOUS FIELDS. WE HAD PEOPLE WHO WERE BROKERS, REALTORS, BUILDERS, CONTRACTORS, DEVELOPERS, ENGINEERS. WE HAD THE EDC, GREATER PALM BAY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, SCAR, HCA, OTHER KEY EMPLOYERS, AND AEROSPACE DEFENSE MANUFACTURING, SPECIFICALLY L3, HARRIS, NORTHROP, NASA AND BOEING HELD FIRST PALM BAY HOSPITALS REPRESENTED AND A VARIETY OF OTHER PARTNERS. WE PRESENT UPDATES ON A VARIETY OF BIG, BIG TICKET ITEMS FOR THE CITY. LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT OUR FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. WE GAVE AN UPDATE ON THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH. WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT CITY INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVES LIKE ROADS, UTILITIES, SIGNALS, FIRE STATIONS. WE GAVE A LOT OF DETAILS ABOUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, OUR GRANTS, OUR INCENTIVES, THE BUSINESSES WE'VE ASSISTED THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE CPEP. WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AND ALSO GAVE A REALLY GOOD SUMMARY OF ALL THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES WE TALKED ABOUT WITH YOU ALL AT THAT WORKSHOP OVER THE SUMMER AND SHARED WITH THEM YOUR YOUR SUPPORT OF THOSE INITIATIVES TO FURTHER ADVANCE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POSITION. SO WE HAD A REALLY GREAT SORT OF OVERVIEW OF ALL THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS ON THERE. AND THEN PART OF THE IDEA WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION DID THEY NEED FROM US? SO WE ANSWERED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEYOND THOSE TOPICS. AND ALSO THEY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID AT THE LAST MAYOR'S BUSINESS ROUNDTABLE, WHICH WAS GAVE US SOME FEEDBACK, SOME IDEAS, SOME THINGS THAT WERE IMPORTANT TO THEM THAT THEY WANTED US TO KNOW ABOUT. SO THOSE WERE LISTED IN THE IN THE EMAIL AS WELL. BUT WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE. THEY THEY OFTEN REMIND US THAT IF WE COULD WAIVE IMPACT FEES COMPLETELY, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO WE DEFINITELY TAKE THAT NOTE EACH TIME. BUT THEY ALSO HAD IDEAS RELATING TO BUILDING SKILLS FOR DEVELOPING LOCAL WORKFORCE TALENT TO MEET LOCAL INDUSTRY NEEDS. I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT BEING IMPORTANT. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LOOKING. SOME OF THEM ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING LAND THAT'S ALREADY READY TO BUILD. SO IT HAS INFRASTRUCTURE ON IT, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WORKSHOP. IMPORTANT TO THEM AND IMPORTANT TO US IS THE ABILITY TO REDUCE THE TIMELINE FOR DEVELOPMENT. SO FROM START TO FINISH, WHAT CAN WE DO TO STREAMLINE OUR PROCESSES TO BENEFIT THEM? WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AND THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE AGAIN, WHATEVER THE CITY CAN DO TO BRING INFRASTRUCTURE TO LOCATIONS TARGETING INDUSTRIES, WHICH WE'VE DISCUSSED. BRAND AND IDENTITY FOR FOR MARKETING THAT BRINGS FOLKS TOGETHER. AND I THINK ALL THE INVESTMENTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE SUPPORTED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHEN WE BRING THOSE FORWARD, YOU START TO SEE THE FRUIT OF THAT. YOU'LL START TO SEE US BEING ABLE TO MOVE IN SOME OF THOSE DIRECTIONS A LITTLE BIT MORE THOROUGHLY. THEY ALSO DISCUSSED THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A VENUE SPACE IN THE CITY SO THAT THAT COMES UP FREQUENTLY AS WELL. AND SO ANYWAY, THERE WAS JUST VERY I'M GIVING YOU THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT IT WAS A IT WAS A GREAT A GREAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT AND WE APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY AS STAFF. WE HAD A LOT OF, I THINK A LOT MORE STAFF AT THIS ONE THAN WE DID THE LAST ONE. MORE DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE REPRESENTED, AND SO THEY WERE ABLE TO HEAR SOME OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL, WHICH WAS USEFUL. SO I HAVE TWO MORE ITEMS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PAUSE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING. OKAY. OKAY. NO. OKAY. MY SECOND ITEM IS THE ESSENTIAL AN EMAIL. I REALIZED IT'S A LITTLE BIT LAST MINUTE, BUT IT'S REGARDING A CO SPONSORSHIP FOR A FARM SHARE EVENT. IT'S BEING DESCRIBED AS A POP UP FARM SHARE. ON THE HEELS OF THE HURRICANE LAST WEEK AND THE POWER OUTAGES. SO YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY HAVE LOST THE FOOD IN THEIR FREEZER OR REFRIGERATOR. SO FPL PARTNERED WITH REPRESENTATIVE RANDY FINE, AND THEY REACHED OUT TO US JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO AND SAID, COULD COULD WE DO A FARM SHARE POP UP? IF YOU RECALL, THE LAST TIME WE DID FARM SHARES, IT WAS IN 2022. WE HAD A LITTLE MORE TIME TO PLAN. WHEN THOSE CAME UP. THERE WAS A SERIES OF OF EVENTS, BUT WE'VE DONE THIS BEFORE. [04:45:04] THE WAY THEY WORK IS A TRUCK COMES IN EARLY IN THE MORNING, BRINGS FOOD. THERE'S A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS THAT HELP TO DISTRIBUTE THE FOOD. THE STAFF RESOURCES THAT ARE USED ARE WE USUALLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, A MINIMAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE. BUT JUST TO HELP WITH ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC CONTROL, WE ALSO HAVE SOME RECREATION STAFF THAT HELPS WITH, YOU KNOW, SET UP SOME TABLES FOR THE DISTRIBUTION TO BE ON SITE TO SUPPORT IT. SO THIS IS A VERY LAST MINUTE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED EVENTS IS TOMORROW. THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ADVERTISING IT. SO MY REQUEST OF YOU IS TO GET YOUR CONSIDERATION BY CONSENSUS THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH US USING THOSE STAFF RESOURCES TO DO THIS. THE INFORMATION I SENT TO YOU, THE STAFF COSTS ESTIMATE IS ABOUT $1,500 FOR STAFF THAT YOU KNOW WILL ALREADY BE ON, ON THE JOB. SO IT'S IT'S THE THERE'S NO MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING OUT, BUT IT'S THE, THE WAIVER OF THE A COUPLE OF RENTAL FEE SPACE FEES. I GUESS I SHOULD CALL THEM AND THEN THE USE OF STAFF TIME. SO GREEN SPACE. YEAH, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT THIS WOULD ALL TAKE PLACE AT FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK. IN THE PARKING LOT WAS HOW WE DID IT. YEAH, WE LIKE WE DID LAST TIME. I THINK THEY'VE ACTUALLY IMPROVED THE PLAN. STAFF HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROUTING OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE IS, YOU KNOW, IS MAXIMIZING ALL THE SPACE AVAILABLE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE OVERFLOW ONTO. YEAH. ONTO MALABAR. YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S THE VISION AND THAT'S THE REQUEST. AND IT WOULD START TOMORROW AT 9 A.M. AND I APOLOGIZE. IT'S LAST MINUTE, BUT IT WAS JUST SORT OF THAT'S HOW IT CAME. SO I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OTHERS MORE THAN OURSELVES. BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S SOME FOLKS THAT ARE THAT ARE DEFINITELY HURTING. AND WE'LL SEE HOW THE RESULTS ARE TOMORROW. WELL, I PLAN ON BEING THERE AT 090 ZERO HOURS IN THE MORNING TO TO VOLUNTEER FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR. BUT YEAH, AND COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW I REMEMBER TWO YEARS AGO, THE LINE WAS UNBELIEVABLE. AND WE, WE ACTUALLY RAN OUT OF A FOOD AT ONE POINT, RIGHT. BUT EVERYONE LEFT WITH SOMETHING. BUT ANYWAY. SO. YES, MA'AM. I'LL. I'LL BE THERE. SO I'M. I'M SUPPORTIVE. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION. HOW ARE YOU GETTING THE WORD OUT TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED THIS? I THINK THAT WAS DONE. WE PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE, I THINK, YEAH, SOCIAL MEDIA HAS BEEN WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING HAPPENING. GREAT. OKAY. I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT IT. YEAH. YEAH. THANK YOU. MY LAST ITEM. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A VERY BRIEF UPDATE BECAUSE THIS CONVERSATION IS GOING TO GO ON A LITTLE BIT LONGER POST HURRICANE, AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATION I NEED A MOTION FOR. I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS. YOU WANT. YOU NEED A MOTION FOR, I THINK. OH, HOLD ON, WE GOT EIGHT MINUTES. YEAH, BUT SHE SAID IT COULD BE LENGTHY. MY APOLOGIES. SHE THINKS IT COULD BE LENGTHY. SO TALK FAST IF YOU WANT. OKAY, WELL, I JUST WANT TO. CAN I HAVE 30 MINUTES JUST IN CASE I CAN'T GO OVER. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEINBERG. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OKAY. CARRY ON. YEAH. PLUS, THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT, SO. YEAH. I COULDN'T HAVE. YEAH. YOU'RE RIGHT. I'VE GOT. YES. SO SO POST STORM, WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE YARD WASTE PILES BUILDING UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHERE THE CITY'S POSITION IS WITH HURRICANE DEBRIS COLLECTION. SO AS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE CONTRACTS THAT WE RENEW AND KEEP ACTIVE FOR STORM EVENTS. AND THOSE CONTRACTS ARE FOR, YOU KNOW, HIRING OUTSIDE VENDORS TO COME IN AND HAUL AWAY DEBRIS FROM STORMS. WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACTS FOR THE VENDORS THAT COME AND DO WHAT'S CALLED DEBRIS MONITORING. SO THEY FOLLOW BEHIND THE TRUCKS, AND THEY DO ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT FEMA NEEDS LATER ON FOR REIMBURSEMENT. HURRICANE MILTON WAS SIMILAR TO ONE WE ANOTHER STORM WE HAD NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACTS WERE NOT AS GREAT AS, AS YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY PREDICTED, I GUESS. AND THEN THE THE INITIAL LOOK AROUND THE CITY, IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THERE WAS A WHOLE LOT OF STORM DEBRIS. BUT AS YOU AS YOU GO THROUGH THE DAYS, YOU START TO SEE MORE PEOPLE ARE CLEARING OUT THEIR YARDS. SO THE PILES ARE STARTING TO COME OUT ON THE ROADSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY ONLY SEEING YARD DEBRIS. WE'RE NOT SEEING YOU KNOW, DAMAGES TO HOMES. WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE. WE DIDN'T HAVE DAMAGES. WE DIDN'T A LOT OF DAMAGE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF FLOODING OR ANYTHING. SO WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT YARD DEBRIS. SO WHAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU IS, FIRST OF ALL, WE'VE WE'VE ACTIVATED OUR, OUR DEBRIS HAULER. THE CHALLENGE IS THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE IMPACTS IN MULTIPLE STATES, BECAUSE THESE HAULERS ARE MULTI-STATE COMPANIES, BECAUSE OF ALL THE IMPACTS FROM HURRICANE HELENE, HURRICANE MILTON IN FLORIDA AND BEYOND. WE ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING THE RESOURCES HERE. [04:50:03] THE COUNTY IS ALSO EXPERIENCING THE SAME THING WITH THEIR DEBRIS HAULER. THE COMMITMENTS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO LOCK DOWN. THEY'RE THEY'RE CONTRACTED TO DO THIS, BUT THE ABILITY TO GET THEM TO PHYSICALLY SAY THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO SERVE US IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING HARD TO RESOLVE. SO IN THE INTERIM, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW AND THEN I'LL KIND OF SHARE WHERE WE'RE AT. REPUBLIC IS COMMITTED TO DOING WHATEVER THEY CAN TO HELP US. USUALLY HURRICANE YARD DEBRIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE AND CAPACITY OF YOUR NORMAL, EVERYDAY CONTRACTED SOLID WASTE PROVIDER. BECAUSE THEY DON'T THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH OF THE CLAM TRUCKS WHO DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, DOZENS OF CLAM TRUCKS TO COME IN OR CLAW TRUCKS AND PULL UP ALL THAT YARD DEBRIS. SO IT TAKES THEM A WHILE. SO WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS REPUBLIC IS DOING THE VERY BEST THAT THEY CAN, BUT THEY ARE THEY'RE CERTAINLY THEY HAVE TWO CLAW TRUCKS. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THE WHOLE CITY AND KEEP UP ON THE DAILY ROUTES. SO FOR PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC, WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? REPUBLIC WILL CONTINUE TO PICK UP EVERYTHING THAT'S CONTAINERIZED. SO THEY'LL DO THEIR NORMAL TRASH, YOUR NORMAL RECYCLE CONTAINERIZED YARD DEBRIS. YARD WASTE WILL BE PICKED UP. AND SPEAKING TO REPUBLIC TODAY. SMALLER PILES OF YARD WASTE, WHICH THEY DESCRIBED AS KIND OF HAND PILES, IS THE TERMINOLOGY THEY USE. SO THEY'RE SMALLER THAN A VOLKSWAGEN IS HOW IT'S BEEN DESCRIBED TO ME. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND MEASURE. BUT ANYWAY, THEY SAID THOSE SMALLER PILES, THEY WILL USE THE REAR LOADER TRUCKS. SO WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT COME OFF FOR LADIES AND THEY THEY PICK IT UP BY HAND. SO THOSE WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. BUT THE BIGGER PILES THAT REQUIRE THE CLAW TRUCK, THE THOSE THOSE ARE GOING TO IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE BIT TO GET TO THOSE. AND SO WE'RE EXPLORING A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I WANTED TO LET COUNCIL KNOW AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON THE DEBRIS HAULER AND SEE IF THEY CAN GET ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAFF HAS WORKED WITH HIM ON IS, YOU KNOW, LOOK AROUND OUR COMMUNITY AND FIND LANDSCAPE COMPANIES. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY MAY HAVE THOSE BIG PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. LOOK AT THOSE AND SEE IF YOU CAN MAKE THEM SUBCONTRACTORS UNDER YOUR, YOUR CONTRACT SO THAT THEY CAN WORK LOCALLY. STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT. WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT THE IDEA OF PUTTING OUT OUR OWN WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, OUR OWN SOLICITATION TO GET QUOTES FROM LOCAL VENDORS WHO ARE, WE KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE COMPANY THAT SAID THEY HAVE SOME RESOURCES AND COULD HELP US OUT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO A PROCUREMENT PROCESS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT DOING A SPEEDY PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO TRY TO GET SOME INTERESTED PARTIES AND SEE IF THERE ARE RESOURCES. THE CITY HAS WE HAVE TWO OF OUR OWN CLAW TRUCKS. SO WE'RE WE INTEND TO AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS BUT CONTINUE TO USE THEM TO HELP WITH WITH THE CLEANUP. WE ARE EXPLORING THE ABILITY TO RENT ADDITIONAL VEHICLES THAT OUR STAFF COULD POTENTIALLY OPERATE, BUT GIVEN THE CURRENT CLIMATE WITH DEBRIS HAULING AND ALL, IT'S THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGH DEMAND ITEM. SO WE'RE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. BUT ALL THAT BEING SAID IS WE'RE WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO TRY TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE. BUT MY COMMENT RIGHT NOW IS THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THE CITY CLEANED BACK UP. SO I ASK THAT EVERYONE'S PATIENT WITH US. ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING THE COMMUNITY TO DO IS TO NOT MIX YOUR PILES. AND THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO IF ANYONE HAD A WOODEN FENCE THAT FELL DOWN OR A VINYL FENCE THAT FELL DOWN. PLEASE KEEP THOSE IN SEPARATE PILES, BECAUSE ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS PRESSURE TREATED WOOD FROM WOOD FENCES IS ALWAYS AN EXCLUDED NORMAL PICKUP ITEM ANYWAY. IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP WITH YARD WASTE. IT DOESN'T GET PICKED UP WITH BOLTS BECAUSE BULK BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY. SO ANY FENCE MATERIAL LIKE THAT, PRESSURE TREATED WOOD FENCE MATERIAL NEEDS TO BE IN ITS OWN SEPARATE PILE, SEPARATE FROM EVERYTHING. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON STRATEGIES BEHIND THE SCENES TO WORK ON GETTING THOSE PICKED UP SEPARATELY AS WELL. BUT IN THE INTERIM, WE'RE JUST GOING TO ASK THAT EVERYONE IS PATIENT, THAT YOU GIVE US SOME TIME. WE'RE WORKING ON BRINGING AS MANY RESOURCES AS WE CAN INTO THE SITUATION, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME AND THERE WILL BE, FOR RIGHT NOW. PILES OF YARD WASTE WILL BE SITTING FOR A LITTLE LONGER THAN WE WOULD LIKE, SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S THE FULL BRIEF ON WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. YEAH, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS DOES THAT QUALIFY FOR FEMA REIMBURSEMENT? YES. YEAH. WE OUR OUR COUNTY HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE CATEGORY WITH FEMA THAT ALLOWS YOU TO GET REIMBURSEMENT FOR PICKING UP. SO IF WE'RE HIRING THESE OTHER SUBCONTRACTORS AND IF WE'RE DOING IT, WHO'S COUNTING AND PROVIDING THAT DOCUMENTATION, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY PART OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING 100%. YEAH. WE'RE IN. WHATEVER WE DO, WE'RE SETTING OURSELVES UP TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET OUR REIMBURSEMENT. IT'S ALWAYS A IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO WORK HARD WITH FEMA, RIGHT? YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR YOUR DOCUMENTATION. AND WE KNOW THAT. AND SO WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE DO. WE WILL DOCUMENT, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OURSELVES POSITIONED FOR A SUCCESSFUL REIMBURSEMENT. [04:55:03] OKAY. OKAY. COPY THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCIL DEPUTY. OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REPORT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. MADAM SMITH. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR. YES, SIR. SAILOR STICE STEP FORWARD. PETTY OFFICER THIRD CLASS. [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:] THAT WAS 50 YEARS AGO. ROBERT STICE, 1796 WHITMORE DRIVE, SOUTHEAST. IF YOU RECALL THE ENDED LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT TREATING THE PONDS THAT HELD ALL OF THIS LILYPADS IN. AND WHAT HAVE YOU. CAN WE PULL IT UP? YOU KNOW, TALKING TO MIKE MCCABE ON THIS, IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON HERE. IF WE CAN ZOOM THAT OUT OR IN. YEAH. IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT'S JUST ON ONE SIDE. AND THEN LET'S GO TO THE VIDEO REAL QUICK CHAT WITH MIKE MCCABE AT TILLMAN. HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT'S NOT ONLY THAT AND LIKE THE DEAD TURTLES AND ANIMALS, THIS IS BEHIND MY HOA ON THE SIDE OF IT. LOOK AT ALL THE LILY PADS IN THERE OKAY SO ADD DEAD DEAD VEGETATION ANIMALS. AND AS A GUY BUILDING A BACK PORCH OVER THERE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE HEARING. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT MIKE'S TALKING ABOUT. A CONDITION THAT EXACERBATES THE PROBLEM IS THAT YOU GET LAWN CHAIRS, UMBRELLAS AND WHATNOT. AND AS WE KNOW, LIVING IN FLORIDA, THE WORST DAMAGE YOU GET IS FROM FLOODING. IT'S NOT THE TORNADOES. IT'S NOT THE HURRICANES. EVEN THAT THAT THAT'S VERY BAD, BUT IT'S ALL THE FLOODING THAT'S CAUSED THIS DAMAGE. SO MY QUESTION TO TO YOU FOLKS IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT THIS? WE HAD ONE POND THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE WE OWNED, AND IT TOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO GET A COMPANY OUT THERE TO TREAT THAT THAT GOT RID OF THE LILY PADS. THIS COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM. WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HAVE NOW IT'S 500 OR 200 YEAR STORMS THAT ARE BECOMING COMMON. WE HAD 1215 TO 20IN OF RAIN. WE HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM HERE. WE HAVE A VERY WORKABLE PROBLEM. SO THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO YOU. I GOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF MYSELF. I WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING I SAY IN FRONT OF STAFF CONCERNING THE MAJORS OR ANYTHING ELSE IS STRICTLY MY OPINION OR WHAT I'M FINDING OUT FROM MY MY INVESTIGATIONS, BASICALLY. TYPICALLY JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING I'M TALKING ABOUT IS SAFETY AND QUALITY. QUALITY OF LIFE. BUT WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID FIRST IS THE STAFF. AND WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE DONE IS EXTRAORDINARY. SUZANNE YOU AND SOME OF YOUR FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KEEP EVERYTHING IN YOUR HEAD. YOU GUYS DO SUCH AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GRACIOUS ABOUT IT. NOT NORMALLY. I'M UP HERE FOR 100 AND 80S JUST SAYING. THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO. THIS IS HOW WE GET BETTER. BUT WHEN I'M LIKENED TO THERE CAN BE A DEBATE. YOU MAY DISAGREE, BUT YOU DON'T BECOME DISAGREEABLE. SO I TIP MY HAT TO ALL OF YOU FOLKS. THIS IS A WORKABLE PROBLEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND MR. MAYOR. THE YANKEES LOST AN EXTRA INNINGS. HAVE A GOOD DAY. THANK YOU, SIR. WE'RE STILL UP 2 TO 1. LOOK SO IS THIS. IS THIS THE MAYOR'S GOLF COURSE? YES, SIR. MADAM SHERMAN. YES, SIR. THIS IS ON THE MAJOR'S PROPERTY. AND IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO REMEDY THAT? WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A SOLUTION. WE MR. STICE AND I HAVE TALKED A NUMBER OF TIMES ON THIS TOPIC. I APOLOGIZE. I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THIS HAD BEEN RESOLVED BY STAFF EARLIER IN THE YEAR. AND SO IN SOME EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE, AFTER MR. STICE CHECKED IN WITH ME AGAIN, I FOUND THAT WE STILL DID NOT HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING. SO A MEETING THAT WE SCHEDULED WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO HELP US GET THERE GOT MOVED BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE. SO IT'S RESCHEDULED. IT'S COMING UP SOON. BUT THE THE POINT OR THE GOAL OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT IS FOR THIS AND ALL PONDS CITYWIDE WHERE THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO MAINTAIN THEM. IT SEEMS THAT BETWEEN STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, DO WE REALLY HAVE THE TEETH IN THE ORDINANCES TODAY THAT WE NEED? BECAUSE I'M GETTING SOME FEEDBACK THAT SAYS THAT MAY NOT BE THE CASE. BUT I NEED THAT FINAL ANSWER SO I CAN THEN DECIDE, OKAY, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE TEETH AND WHAT DO WE NEED SO WE CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO YOU ALL? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M BEING TOLD IS WE DON'T HAVE CODE, DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND CITE OWNERS OF STORM OF THE STORMWATER PONDS FOR FAILING TO MAINTAIN, INCLUDING THE ONES THAT THEY CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE FROM THE THE PROPERTY LINE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER FACET, BUT WE'LL BE WORKING ON THAT. BUT WOULDN'T THIS BE CONSIDERED A RISK TO PUBLIC SAFETY TO PEOPLE'S HOMES. JUST FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, WOULDN'T THAT BE A RISK IF THAT OVERFLOWS? [05:00:07] I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, BUT A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT STORMWATER POND IS CONNECTED TO AND WHAT IT DOES. AND THAT'S MORE OF AN ENGINEERING SAINT JOHN'S MELBOURNE, TILLMAN CITY PERMIT KIND OF DISCUSSION. SO EACH POND WOULD BE DIFFERENT. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT JUST OFF OFFHAND, SIR. SO YOU'RE WORKING ON IT? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. 13 PONDS AT THE MAJORS. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MASTER CHIEF? AND THEN. BUTCH, IF YOU DON'T MIND. HE. HE RAISED HIS HAND BEFORE YOU. BUTCH. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. FIRST ONE IS A QUESTION. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FAILED WATER LINE. THAT OR STORM WATER LINE THAT FAILED TO CAUSE SO MUCH CASUALTY. I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHAT'S THE STATUS OF ALL THE WATER OR THE STORMWATER LINES THAT ARE RUNNING DOWN MALABAR ROAD RIGHT NOW? THAT WE'VE HAD THAT THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A SPRAY, WE DO A SPRAY LINER ON THEM TO CORRECT IT. BUT THE ROAD IS GETTING IS CONTINUING TO FAIL. SO DID WE EVER CORRECT THAT? THAT'S JUST WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THAT ONE? ITEM NUMBER TWO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE HOMES ARE FLOODED BECAUSE OF THIS STORM. AND THEN DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS THAT WEREN'T DOING THEIR CRITERIA OF WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE. I SAW THE EMAIL CAME THAT CAME OUT FROM THE CITY AND SAID, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE DRAINAGE CLEARED AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF READY TO GO, WHICH IS PRIOR PLANNING, WHICH WAS GOOD. BUT WHEN THE BUILDERS FAILED TO DO THAT, WE SUFFER. SO AND YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO? WELL, CODE COMPLIANCE TAKES SIX MONTHS BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING. SO I WOULD SUGGEST A LITTLE RED STICKER THAT GOES ON THE JOB SITE THAT SAYS STOP ORDER UNTIL WE CAN CORRECT IT, UNTIL IT'S CORRECTED. YOU SEE IT STOP ORDER NOT IN VIOLATION OR ANYTHING. YOU DIDN'T. YOU FAILED TO DO YOUR JOB. STOP ORDER. I PROMISE YOU, WHEN THEY START FALLING BEHIND, THEY'LL START TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF ACTION, RIGHT? SO THEY'LL STOP ORDER INSTANTANEOUSLY. THE OTHER THING IS, I AGREE, THIS IS A GOOD CITY. WE DID VERY GOOD DURING THE STORM. WE WERE VERY LUCKY. AND I STILL THINK THIS IS THE BEST CITY IN THE UNITED STATES. MAYBE THE WORLD FOR ITEM NUMBER. LAST ITEM 18 DAYS FOLKS. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE WE VOTE. IF YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO VOTE, VOTE. HOPEFULLY YOUR CANDIDATE WILL PREVAIL. AND IF NOT, BE PROUD OF YOUR ACTIONS. LET US NOT LOSE WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, GOVERNED BY THE CONSTITUTION. USA. USA. USA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. BUTCH. MA'AM, DID YOU TAKE THOSE NOTES? ALL RIGHT. COOL. BUTCH RANCH, 219 TRENTON AVENUE. FIRST, I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANKS TO THE ROAD DEPARTMENT. I CALLED ABOUT POTHOLES ON TUESDAY. WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON, THEY WERE FILLED. AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NAME OF THE STREET IS. RIGHT OFF OF JUPITER. IT ALWAYS FLOODS. IT'S THE FIRST ONE PAST THE CANAL. BUT, I MEAN, IT HAD TREMENDOUS POTHOLES. ALL OF THEM WERE FILLED, SO THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB. THE OTHER THING. I HAVE A LOCAL TREE GUY. I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GIVE IT TO. I GOT HIS PHONE NUMBER AND ALL THAT STUFF ON HERE. HE'S. HE'S VERY RELIABLE. HE'S GOT A CLAW TRUCK, GOT A FULL CREW AND VERY REASONABLE ON TREE PRICES. THANK YOU. AND FLORIDA STATE NEEDS TO LEARN HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL. YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD DAY. YES, MA'AM. COME ON UP. PADDLE FOR 14 GEORGE AVENUE. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION. WE HAVE A HOUSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE FELLOW HAS ALMOST ABANDONED. IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT? HE CLAIMS HE'S GOING TO SELL IT EVENTUALLY, BUT HE HASN'T BEEN AROUND HARDLY AT ALL. SO. ARE YOU FILING AN OFFICIAL CODE VIOLATION COMPLAINT? WELL, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CODE IS, I GUESS. GIVE HER THE ADDRESS AND WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. GIVE HER THE ADDRESS, AND WE'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT. JUST HAVE YOUR NAME ATTACHED TO IT. YES. THANK YOU. MA'AM. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. TAKE CARE. I KNOW. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.