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OKAY. WE'VE CONFIRMED THAT LOGAN IS ON HIS WAY.
[CALL TO ORDER]
SO LET'S GET CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.SO LET'S START WITH THE ROLL CALL.
THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO. OKAY, SO WE MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
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AND THE FIRST ON THAT IS THE SUNSHINE LAWS.WHAT WHAT I'M NOT SEEING AND I'M WONDERING ABOUT IS REVIEW OF OLD MINUTES, APPROVAL OF PAST MINUTES.
THANK YOU. BUT EVEN FROM THE THE PRIOR LAST TIME WE MET, DO WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THAT? THOSE MINUTES WERE NEVER PUBLISHED POSTED.
SO OKAY, I HAVE TO ASK ABOUT THAT ONE.
OKAY, SO SUNSHINE LAWS, WE HAVE A PACKET OF INFORMATION.
THANK YOU MA'AM. DO WE HAVE A CLICKY THING FOR MY PRESENTATION? WELL, WHILE THAT GETS SET UP, MY NAME IS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY ERIC MESSENGER.
I BELIEVE YOU'VE ALL BEEN GIVEN THE PACKET THAT I'VE SUBMITTED.
WE WILL HAVE THAT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE SOON.
SO I WANT TO GET STARTED ON THE FIRST PAGE, WHICH HAS PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION FROM THIS WHOLE PACKET, WHICH IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE SUNSHINE LAW AND THE PUBLIC RECORD AND THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW, IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, ALL COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING CITY BUSINESS MUST BE PRESERVED. AND WE'RE GOING TO GET MUCH DEEPER INTO BOTH OF THESE ISSUES.
I'D JUST LIKE TO PUT THESE TWO ISSUES UP FRONT BECAUSE THEY ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSING CITY BUSINESS WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OUTSIDE OF HERE, OR AS A BEST PRACTICES, QUITE FRANKLY, WITH MEMBERS OF ANY OTHER BOARD.
IF CITY BUSINESS IS GOING TO COME UP, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL GET INTO MORE OF THAT LATER.
AND WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ARE IN THIS PRESENTATION.
SO WE'LL MOVE ON INTO FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE LAW, WHICH IS THE NEXT PAGE.
PAGE THREE. FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW GIVES THE RIGHTS OF PUBLIC ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT.
IT'S APPLICABLE TO ANY MEETING OR ANY GATHERING, I SHOULD SAY, WHERE TWO OR MORE MEMBERS OF THE SAME BOARD ARE DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT THE CITY MAY FORESEEABLY TAKE ACTION ON.
THIS IS PART OF THE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING ABOUT CITY BUSINESS WITH A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OUTSIDE OF HERE, BECAUSE YOU'RE CONDUCTING PERHAPS FORESEEABLE CITY BUSINESS, WHICH WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW.
SO MEETINGS OF PUBLIC BOARDS SUCH AS THIS ONE HAVE TO BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
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REASONABLE NOTICE HAS TO BE GIVEN.MINUTES OF THE MEETING MUST BE RECORDED AND IT MUST BE IN AN ACCESSIBLE LOCATION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT CAN'T BE IN SOMEBODY'S HOME.
IT CAN'T BE OUTSIDE OF THE LIMITS OF PALM BAY, ETC..
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE NOTICE HAS TO BE GIVEN FOR IT AS WELL.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE FROM PALM BAY.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME IN HERE AND SIT AND WATCH THESE PROCEEDINGS ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
YOU CANNOT REQUEST THAT ANYONE VOLUNTARILY LEAVE DURING PORTIONS OF A PUBLIC MEETING, OR TO LEAVE A PUBLIC MEETING IS OPEN TO ALL.
SO THE FACILITY, YOU MAY NOT HOLD A PUBLIC MEETING THAT'S OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY.
YOU CAN'T HOLD A MEETING AT A LOCATION WHICH DISCRIMINATES AGAINST PEOPLE BASED ON GENDER, AGE, RACE, CREED, COLOR, NATIONAL ORIGIN, ECONOMIC STATUS OR OTHERWISE UNREASONABLY RESTRICTS PUBLIC ACCESS.
OR, FOR EXAMPLE, AS I SAID, IN A PRIVATE HOME.
MINUTES. AS WE JUST DISCUSSED HERE, MINUTES MUST BE TAKEN.
ALTHOUGH AT THIS POINT, ESPECIALLY IN HERE, I BELIEVE RECORDINGS DO TYPICALLY OCCUR.
MINUTES BECOME THE OFFICIAL RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING AND SHOULD BE CAREFULLY REVIEWED FOR ACCURACY TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW. WE'LL MOVE ON TO PAGE EIGHT.
SO THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT PAGES HERE WITH SOME OF THE MORE IMPORTANT INFORMATION, BECAUSE IT REALLY GETS INTO WHAT YOU PERSONALLY MAY BE DOING UP HERE ON THE BOARD. ONE WAY COMMUNICATIONS THEY'RE PERMITTED IN IN FLORIDA.
SUNSHINE LAW, THAT IS ONE OF YOU WERE TO SEND AN EMAIL TO ANOTHER ONE.
BUT I STRONGLY DISCOURAGE YOU FROM DOING THIS.
IT IS A GATEWAY TO VIOLATING THESE RULES.
AND YOU DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
SO I STRONGLY DISCOURAGE USING ANY FORM TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF HERE.
AND SO THAT IS A VIOLATION OF ESPECIALLY NOT ONLY THIS, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY LATER OF THE FLORIDA PUBLIC RECORDS ACT AS WELL, WHICH I'LL GET INTO.
BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ANY OF YOU IS STRONGLY DISCOURAGED.
NOTICE THIS IS NOTICE OF THE MEETING.
OKAY. WE ALMOST GOT THE POWERPOINT GOING.
HOWEVER GREAT ADVANCE SLIP GOES BACK.
GOT IT? PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AT A MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC HAS NOT BEEN GIVEN NOTICE.
PENALTIES. SO, PENALTIES FOR VIOLATING FLORIDA'S SUNSHINE ACT.
SO FIRST OF ALL, ANY ACTION THAT'S TAKEN IN VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW IS VOID.
IF THE BOARD TAKES INDEPENDENT FINAL ACTION IN THE SUNSHINE.
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SO IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN PRIVATELY AND THEN RECONVENE AND TO HAVE A TAKE PLACE AGAIN IN THE SUNSHINE MAY STAND EMPHASIS ON MAY.BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO GET TO THIS POINT.
IN TERMS OF GOVERNMENT CONDUCT, VIOLATING FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW CAN BE AS LOW AS A NON-CRIMINAL INFRACTION INFRACTION, A FINE OF $500.
IT CAN ALSO BE A CRIMINAL CHARGE, DEPENDING UPON IF IT KNOWINGLY HAPPENS, IF IT'S OUTSIDE THE STATE, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PUNISHMENTS FOR THAT UP TO A SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANOR.
THE NEXT SLIDE BEGINS THE FLORIDA'S PUBLIC RECORD ACT.
SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THAT, I WANT TO ASK IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON SUNSHINE LAW.
ARE WE ARE WE INDIVIDUALLY ALLOWED TO TALK TO PALM BAY EMPLOYEES ABOUT ITEMS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IF THEY'RE NOT, IF THEY'RE NOT ON A BOARD.
RIGHT. BUT ANY ANYBODY WORKING FOR THE CITY? YES. OKAY.
YOU CAN TALK. YOU CAN TALK TO EMPLOYEES.
CERTAINLY. BUT YOU JUST CAN'T TALK TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN'T DO.
I'M STARTING TO ATTEND OTHER BOARD MEETINGS THAT I'M NOT ON THE BOARD.
LIKE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
I HAVE FRIENDS ON THOSE BOARDS.
SINCE I'M ON THIS BOARD, CAN YOU BE CLEARER WHAT MY BOUNDARIES ARE? SO IF YOU ATTEND THEM AS A AS A PERSON, AS A CITIZEN, AND YOU COME UP HERE AND SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, I MAY COME UP AS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND I MAY OR MAY NOT.
I CERTAINLY MAY HAVE A GREATER OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE ON OTHER BOARDS, BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR PURPOSES ON THESE BOARDS DO OVERLAP, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVING ON THESE BOARDS ARE ALSO VERY WELL KNOWN MANY TIMES IN THE COMMUNITY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ME, PARTICULARLY THAT NOW I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, WELL, FOR YOU TO COME UP HERE AND SPEAK AS A PERSON ISN'T A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT HERE IN THE SUNSHINE.
IT'S RECORDED, IT'S UNDERSTOOD.
YOU CAN EXPRESS THAT HERE AS A CITIZEN.
BUT AS I SAID, I WOULD DISCOURAGE BUT I CAN LOOK MORE INTO THIS IF YOU WOULD CARE TO GET YOU A BETTER ANSWER, BUT AS A BEST PRACTICE YOU KNOW, I WOULD DISCOURAGE DISCUSSING CITY BUSINESS AMONGST DIFFERENT GROUPS, BUT I CAN CIRCLE BACK AND GET YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT, AND WE CAN CLARIFY IT IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
I WISH YOU WOULD, BECAUSE MY QUESTION WOULD BE ON WHAT IS CITY'S BUSINESS? SO DOES THAT JUST MEAN SOMETHING THAT WOULD RESULT IN A VOTE OF THE BOARD OR I MEAN, CONVERSATION? THERE'S I'M CONFUSED AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF YOU GOT TO HAVE CONVERSATION TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES AND TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES.
AND SO I DO HAVE INTEREST IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY, NOT JUST THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
WELL, IT WOULD DEPEND, I SUPPOSE, ON WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE DISCUSSING SO THE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IS THINGS THAT WILL FORESEEABLY LEAD TO CITY BUSINESS TO DISCUSS A MATTER WHICH FORESEEABLE ACTION MAY BE TAKEN FORESEEABLE ACTION.
SO THAT'S THE KEY THING IF IT WOULD COME AS A VOTE.
YEAH. IF IT COMES AS A VOTE, I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
AND I GUESS I WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS TOO, SINCE I'M SERVING ON THIS BOARD.
AM I UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO NOTIFY THE CITY IF, SAY, LIKE JANE AND I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY FUNCTION?
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AS CITIZENS.BUT YET WE SERVE ON THIS BOARD, AND WE MAY ATTEND A COMMUNITY EVENT THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE CITY. WELL, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE OUT IN THE SUNSHINE.
SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT IS IT A I GUESS I DON'T WHEN YOU MEAN A COMMUNITY EVENT.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN, SOMETHING LIKE THIS? I'M WONDERING, I WONDERING. THE FESTIVAL A MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL? NO. NOPE.
I MEAN, WHEN I GO TO THINGS, IT'S A LITTLE CLOUDED SINCE I SERVE ON BOARDS. WHEN I'M OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, I'M NOT REALLY REPRESENTING THE BOARDS OR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BUT IN A WAY I AM.
I'M ALWAYS AWARE THAT I'M ON THIS BOARD, AND SO THE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO ME ARE CITY ISSUES.
SO OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT.
AND IF I MAY, I THINK WHAT SUZANNE IS GETTING AT IS THAT SHE'S A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR THINGS SHE BELIEVES IN STRONGLY, AND SHE IS INCLINED TO TRY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE.
YEAH. AT AT VARIOUS PUBLIC EVENTS.
SOME PERHAPS NOT PUBLIC EVENTS.
YEAH, I AND SOMETIMES I'LL BE A CITIZEN, BUT I'LL BE RECOGNIZED.
RIGHT. BUT I THINK THE LEGAL ASPECT IS THAT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, IT HAS TO BE RECORDED THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN A MEETING THAT'S BEING RECORDED.
OTHERWISE, YOU'RE VIOLATING THE SUNSHINE LAWS.
SO IF YOU'RE AT A MEETING, IS THAT CORRECT? IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT? SO ANYTHING HERE BETWEEN ALL OF YOU, YOU KNOW, FOR ANY OF YOU TO EMAIL EACH OTHER ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND IF THERE'S A RESPONSE TO IT, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE ACT.
IN TERMS OF DISCUSSING WITH OTHER BOARDS, THAT'S A LITTLE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT VAGUER.
AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU SOME BEST PRACTICES IN TERMS OF WHAT TO DO.
I MEAN, I CAN'T SIT HERE AND GIVE YOU AN ANSWER TO EVERY SINGLE SCENARIO THAT MAY COME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, LOBBYING FOR THE ENVIRONMENT, FOR SUSTAINABILITY, WITH PEOPLE FROM OTHER BOARDS.
RIGHT. I CAN TAKE A LOOK AND, AND TRY TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL TO GIVE YOU SOME BETTER IDEAS ON WHERE THE CLARIFICATION IS ON THAT, JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS A BEST PRACTICE.
YOU KNOW, IT IS TO KEEP THINGS IN THE SUNSHINE WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING SPECIFIC CITY BUSINESS.
AND I THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE THIS BOARD.
YEAH. CERTAINLY THIS BOARD WITH OTHER BOARDS.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO PROVIDE LIKE A CONSERVATIVE.
YOU KNOW, PERHAPS EVEN BEING OVERPROTECTIVE.
OKAY. BUT LIKE, IF I'M INFRASTRUCTURE AND OVERSIGHT AND YOU COME AND SPEAK.
THAT'S OKAY. BUT WE JUST CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING OF LIKE SUSTAINABILITY.
TWO WAY BETWEEN US OR ANYONE ON THIS BOARD.
OKAY, BUT I CAN FOLLOW BACK UP WITH YOU.
IT MAKES BETTER SENSE. YEAH, I GUESS I'M WORRIED.
YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SOME EXAMPLES WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU'RE A BEST PRACTICES DOCUMENT HAS SOME BECAUSE MOST OF US ARE ENGAGED IN MANY OTHER AREAS OF ENVIRONMENTALISM.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO MESS UP, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT WE'RE KNOWN FOR BEING ON THIS BOARD AS ONE OF OUR DUTIES.
BUT BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, IF YOU'RE ON OTHER BOARDS, THAT'S BUSINESS IS BEING CONDUCTED IN THE SUNSHINE, RIGHT? YES. SO IF YOU'RE ON ANOTHER BOARD LIKE THIS AND YOU'RE OUT HERE TALKING YOU, SOMETHING ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY COMES UP.
I MEAN, THAT'S NOT AS BIG OF A PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'RE OUT HERE, YOU'RE BEING RECORDED.
WELL, I WAS SPEAKING OF NON-GOVERNMENT BOARDS AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT A NON-GOVERNMENT BOARD MIGHT LIKE, A NONPROFIT BOARD OR OTHER GROUPS, BOARDS.
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THAT ARE ENVIRONMENTAL RELATED.WE'RE NOT RESTRICTING YOU FROM FROM TALKING ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY GENERALLY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME VERY DISTANT EXAMPLES FROM WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT, WHICH IS JUST SPECIFICALLY THIS BOARD AND YOUR INTERACTION WITH OTHER IMMEDIATE BOARDS. THEN WE'LL PROCEED.
I. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY ADDITIONAL.
I'LL TRY TO GET BACK OUT TO YOU AND JUST KEEP IT IN MIND.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOTHING FURTHER. THEN WE WILL MOVE ON INTO FLORIDA'S PUBLIC RECORD ACT.
AND LET ME MOVE THIS BACK UP TO WHERE I WAS.
ALL RIGHT. SO EVERY PERSON WHO HAS CUSTODY OF A PUBLIC RECORD SHALL PERMIT THE RECORD TO BE INSPECTED AND COPIED BY ANY PERSON DESIGNED TO DO SO AT ANY REASONABLE TIME, UNDER REASONABLE CONDITIONS AND UNDER SUPERVISION OF THE CUSTODIAN OF PUBLIC RECORDS OR THE CUSTODIANS DESIGNEE.
SO PUBLIC RECORDS INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO RECORDS, DOCUMENTS AND NOTES OBTAINED OR TAKEN BY MEMBERS OF APPOINTED BOARDS.
CORRESPONDENCE PREPARED OR RECEIVED BY BOARD MEMBERS.
TEXT MESSAGES, EMAILS, FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, REDDIT, YOUTUBE OR ANY OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES THAT I HAVE NOT HEARD OF THAT ARE RELATED TO CITY BUSINESS.
BASICALLY, ANYTHING CREATED HERE IS A PUBLIC RECORD.
FOR EXAMPLE, JUST LAST NIGHT WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON ANOTHER BOARD WHERE A VOTING CARD FROM THE CHRISTMAS PARADE WAS BROUGHT OUT AND PEOPLE WHO VOTED ON CHRISTMAS PARADE FLOATS DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THOSE WERE PUBLIC RECORDS.
SO ANYTHING THAT YOU CREATE HERE IS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC RECORD.
AND THAT'S WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE YOU POST THINGS TO MAKE SURE YOU, YOU SEND EMAILS MINDFULLY, THAT YOU CREATE THINGS MINDFULLY AND UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, THAT EVERYTHING IS BASICALLY A PUBLIC RECORD.
I'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT STORY THAT HAPPENED TO ME IN MY LAST JOB.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE REMAINDER OF THE CASE SHE TEXTED ME SEVERAL TIMES ON MY PERSONAL PHONE.
SO WHEN I QUIT THAT JOB, I HAD TO PAINSTAKINGLY GO THROUGH ALL THOSE TEXT MESSAGES, SCREENSHOT THEM, EMAIL THEM TO MY BOSS SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RETAIN THEM.
ALL DOCUMENTS, REGARDLESS OF PHYSICAL FORM, CHARACTERISTICS OR MEANS OF TRANSMISSION MADE OR RECEIVED PURSUANT TO LAW OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE BOARD'S OFFICIAL BUSINESS THAT ARE USED TO PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE THAT IS PC.
F PERPETUATE, COMMUNICATE OR FORMALIZE KNOWLEDGE.
NOW WE HAVE A RECORDS MANAGEMENT POLICY AND A SCHEDULE THAT RETAIN THAT ESTABLISHES THE RETENTION SCHEDULES AND DISPOSAL PROCEDURES.
YOU'LL NOTICE IT'S NOT IN HERE.
SO I DON'T LIKE TO GIVE OUT A SOLID PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS WHAT THEY ARE BECAUSE YOU MIGHT TACK IT UP ON YOUR FRIDGE AND THEN THOSE DATES CHANGE, BUT YOU THINK YOU'RE STILL IN COMPLIANCE BECAUSE YOU'RE USING OLD INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW LONG YOU NEED TO RETAIN SOMETHING, WHAT I WANT YOU FOR YOU TO DO IS CONTACT THE CLERK OF THE CITY, AND SHE WILL HAVE THE MOST UP TO DATE RETENTION SCHEDULE FOR YOU TO DO.
THE GOAL OF THE RETENTION SCHEDULE IS TO BALANCE THE CITY'S NEEDS TO MANAGE, SORT, AND ACCESS PUBLIC RECORDS WITH THE PUBLIC'S RIGHT TO REVIEW RECORDS ON A TIMELY AND TIMELY ISSUES RELATED TO OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
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THE CLERK. THE CLERK'S OFFICE MAINTAINS AN UP TO DATE SCHEDULE FOR RETENTION OF DOCUMENTS, AND SHOULD BE CONSULTED ON ANY RETENTION ISSUES.SO THIS IS EMAILS, TEXT MESSAGES AND ALL FORMS OF SOCIAL MEDIA MADE OR RECEIVED BY PUBLIC OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES IN CONNECTION WITH OFFICIAL BUSINESS.
PUBLIC RECORDS ARE SUBJECT TO DISCLOSURE IN THE ABSENCE OF A STATUTORY EXEMPTION.
SO, LIKE THE EXAMPLE I JUST SHARED ABOUT MYSELF WHEN I RECEIVED TEXT MESSAGES THAT HAD TO DO WITH MY JOB AS AN ATTORNEY FOR THE STATE, I HAD TO RETAIN THOSE, AND I HAD TO PROVIDE THOSE TO MY BOSS BEFORE I LEFT.
SO PERSONAL NOTES GETS A LITTLE DODGY, BUT WE WILL GO THROUGH IT.
IF THE NOTES HAVE NOT BEEN TRANSCRIBED OR SHOWN TO OTHERS AND WERE NOT INTENDED TO PCEF KNOWLEDGE.
HOWEVER, THERE IS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS EXCEPTION.
THE CITY CLERK WILL TYPICALLY SEND OUT AN EMAIL.
WE MUST DILIGENTLY DETERMINE WHO POSSESSES THE REQUESTED DOCUMENTS AND OBTAIN THEM FOR RESPONSE.
EXEMPTIONS. THERE ARE NOT MANY.
MOST COMMON EXEMPTIONS ARE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND PERSONAL INFORMATION OF POLICE, FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT JUDGES AND THEIR FAMILIES. THERE ARE VERY, VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS BEYOND THOSE, AND ANY FURTHER EXCEPTIONS USUALLY HAVE TO DO WITH SECURITY PROCEDURES OR VICTIMS OF CERTAIN TYPES OF CRIMES.
SO I WILL TAKE WHATEVER THE PUBLIC RECORDS ARE.
IF THERE'S A QUESTION AND I OR SOMEONE IN MY OFFICE WILL REVIEW THEM TO SEE IF THERE IS AN EXCEPTION UPON REQUEST, THE CUSTODIAN MUST STATE IN WRITING WITH PARTICULARITY THE REASONS FOR THE CONCLUSION THAT THE RECORD IS EXEMPT FROM INSPECTION.
PUBLIC RECORDS HELD BY A PRIVATE PARTY.
A PRIVATE PARTY CANNOT RENDER PUBLIC RECORDS EXEMPT BY LABELING THE RECORDS AS CONFIDENTIAL.
ONE OF MY PRIMARY JOBS HERE IS TO REVIEW CONTRACTS THAT WE GET, AND OFTENTIMES WITH COMPANIES WE DO BUSINESS WITH, THERE IS A CONFIDENTIALITY CLAUSE, AND I ALWAYS SEND THEM A LETTER BACK THAT SAYS WE CAN ONLY, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW YOUR CONFIDENTIALITY CLAUSE TO THE EXTENT AS PERMITTED BY FLORIDA LAW, WHICH IS NOT MUCH.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND US ANYTHING YOU WISH TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.
BECAUSE QUITE FRANKLY, WE CANNOT HOLD ANYTHING CONFIDENTIAL JUST BECAUSE WE WRITE CONFIDENTIAL OR SOMEBODY ASKS US FOR IT TO BE CONFIDENTIAL, EXCEPT FOR ONE PARTICULAR GROUP, AND THAT IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHICH DOES WHICH FEDERAL LAW DOES SUPERSEDE FLORIDA LAW.
AND I HAVE NEVER ENCOUNTERED ANY OF THOSE YET.
CONSEQUENCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE.
THERE CAN BE CRIMINAL PENALTIES.
THERE CAN BE REMOVAL OF OFFICE.
THERE CAN BE NON-CRIMINAL INFRACTIONS.
THERE CAN BE ATTORNEY'S FEES FOR THE CITY.
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CORRECTIVE ACTIONS AND DAMAGES.SO THE CIVIL PENALTIES, WHICH I MENTIONED THEY A PERSON REQUESTING PUBLIC RECORDS, IT HASN'T BEEN GRANTED THEM CAN BE ENTITLED TO AN IMMEDIATE HEARING, CAN GET A WRIT TO COMPEL PERFORMANCE, CAN GET AN INJUNCTION.
AND ONCE WE GET TO THAT, THERE IS THE SUBSEQUENT PRODUCTION OF DOCUMENTS WITHIN 48 HOURS.
AND THEY MAY BE ENTITLED TO FEES AND COSTS.
IN TERMS OF CRIMINAL PENALTIES, A PUBLIC OFFICER WHO KNOWINGLY VIOLATES THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 119 .071 CAN BE SUBJECT TO SUSPENSION AND REMOVAL AND IMPEACHMENT, AND POTENTIALLY GUILTY OF A MISDEMEANOR.
THIS ONE IS OF A FIRST DEGREE WHICH IS MORE SEVERE THAN THE SECOND DEGREE MISDEMEANOR.
SO IN TERMS OF PUBLIC RECORDS, YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF.
I'M SORRY. THIS IS FOR KIND OF AN OVERALL FINISHER FOR IT.
SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A MEETING ASK YOURSELF, WAS A MEETING SET UP ACCORDING TO ALL OF THE PUBLIC MEETING REQUIREMENTS? DOES IT LOOK LIKE I MIGHT BE ENGAGED IN IMPROPER COMMUNICATION? HAVE I PROVIDED ALL THE INTERESTED PARTY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD? AND HAVE WE EXPLAINED OURSELVES SUFFICIENTLY SO THAT DECISIONS AND REASONS ARE CLEAR? FOR SUNSHINE LAW AND OF COURSE, FOR PUBLIC RECORDS LAW YOU NEED TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU ARE RETAINING ALL INFORMATION THAT YOU CREATE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ANY OF OUR SCHEDULES.
SO WITH THAT, WE REACH THE END OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS ACT.
DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON PUBLIC RECORDS OR MORE QUESTIONS ON FLORIDA SUNSHINE LAW? YES, MA'AM. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
HAVE YOU SEEN MUCH IN TERMS OF VIOLATIONS AND PROSECUTION FOR VIOLATIONS? NO WE DON'T WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HERE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
BECAUSE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP THE ALL THE DOCUMENTS CORRECTLY.
OR AT LEAST IT HAS NOT COME UP TO MY KNOWLEDGE ABOUT US NOT PRESENTING SOMETHING.
ABOUT THE ONLY THING THAT WE REALLY RUN INTO IS PERHAPS A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION THAT IS STILL ONGOING IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE MIGHT REJECT A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
BUT GENERALLY, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANYTHING ELSE COME UP ABOUT THOSE.
MA'AM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WELL, IF WE ARE ALL GOOD, THEN I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THE PACKET AND I WILL RESPOND TO YOU ABOUT YOUR QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNICATING WITH OTHER BOARDS AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
WELL, THANK YOU ALL. HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD REST OF YOUR NIGHT.
SO NOW THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.
LOOKS LIKE WE ALSO HAVE COCOS.
I THINK THIS IS WE ALSO HAVE THE TWO COMMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF SUSAN OR JANE, IF YOU ALL WANT TO SPEAK ON Y'ALL'S.
THIS WAS A VERY GOOD, CHALLENGING EXERCISE FOR ME TO GO THROUGH THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN FIRST BECAUSE I HELPED IN CREATING THE PLAN.
BUT IT'S AMAZING HOW JUST A YEAR'S CAN CHANGE.
ONE YEAR CAN CHANGE PRIORITIES AND NEEDS.
SO I WAS HAPPY THAT WE ARE ALL LOOKING AT THE ACTION PLAN AND AND REVISITING WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITY AT THIS MOMENT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PROMPTED ME TO WRITE DOWN MY THOUGHTS WAS, I'M WE SEEM TO
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BE MOVING IN TERMS OF HAVING AN ANNUAL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.AND I SEE THIS BOARD EVOLVING MORE INTO AN ADVISORY BOARD AND A LIAISON BOARD, WHERE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CITIZENS COME BEFORE US WITH SPECIFIC REQUESTS OR TO TO ALERT US TO THINGS HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR THE CITY TO KNOW ABOUT AND TO GET HELP FOR.
I ALSO SEE THE CITY COUNCIL THAT WERE MORE VISIBLE BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, IN TERMS OF COUNCIL, IS AWARE OF THIS BOARD AND IS USING THIS BOARD. WE HAD A REALLY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO WORK WITH A STRUCTURE AND PLANNING PLANTS AND DOING A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT REALLY BENEFITED THE CITY, AND I SEE THAT NOW AS A PATH THAT WE'RE WE'RE BEING ASKED FOR SPECIFIC PROJECTS, SO TO SPEAK, RATHER THAN GENERALIZATIONS. AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE, THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR BEING MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL OR BEING NONSPECIFIC NON PROJECT SPECIFIC.
SO WHAT I WAS RECOMMENDING THAT THE THAT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS PRIORITY BE THAT ONE IS THAT THE CITY WE FOLLOW, THE CITY IS IN THE PROCESS OF IDENTIFYING PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS.
AND ONCE THAT IS COMPLETED THAT WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR PERMANENT CONSERVATION EASEMENTS ON ALL THESE AREAS. THE OTHER AREA I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT IS THE CITY'S LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
RIGHT NOW, THAT IS A VOLUNTARY PRACTICE.
AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD OFFER THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL IN TERMS OF SHOULD THIS BE A MANDATORY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVISION.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES INVOLVE ALL SORTS OF ENVIRONMENTAL AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.
EVERYTHING THAT THIS BOARD IS CHARGED TO HELP WITH AT THE CITY IS GENERATED THROUGH SOME LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A REAL OPPORTUNITY.
AND ACTUALLY WE ARE MANDATED TO FOR TO TO PARTICIPATE AND GIVE ADVICE AND INPUT ON ORDINANCES AND POLICIES.
LOGAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU YOU MAY HAVE DONE ONE IN YEARS.
WELL, THEN WE HAVE NEVER DONE IT.
I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD SIX YEARS, AND I THINK WE HAVE MISSED A REAL OPPORTUNITY.
AND ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT THAT WE NEED TO DO NOT ONLY AN ANNUAL REPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO A QUARTERLY REPORT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS WOULD BE NOT ONLY TO KEEP THE COUNCIL INFORMED IN REAL TIME OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT AND WHAT WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM THE CITIZENS COMING FORTH.
BUT ALSO, IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE MORE INTERACTION WITH US IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HOW THEY WOULD LIKE THIS BOARD TO TO WORK ON.
I HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS HERE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL ON THAT.
I THINK THAT SUMMARIZES WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE FOR RIGHT NOW.
JUST TO ELABORATE ON YOUR LAST POINT ABOUT THE REPORTING, I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FOR THE CITY TO DOCUMENT THE SUSTAINABLE SUSTAINABILITY ACTIONS THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, BECAUSE WE KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON A LOT WITH THE NEW BUILDING. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? ALL KIND OF COME TOGETHER INTO TO ONE DOCUMENT FOR THE COUNCIL.
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MOSTLY IN MY EQUIVALENT OF SUSAN'S DOCUMENT.I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING SUSAN SAID, AND READING THROUGH THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN JUST PICKED OUT SOME THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WE COULD OR COULD OR SHOULD WORK ON.
AND WE'RE WONDERING WHAT I'M WONDERING IS SUZANNE HAD TALKED ABOUT THERE BEING A BUDGET ITEM TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY PERSON ON IN THE CITY, EMPLOYEES THAT COULD ASSIST WITH US.
WE KNOW MANY OTHER CITIES HAVE THOSE LITTLE DEPARTMENTS.
I MEAN, YOU ALL ARE DOING GREAT, BUT YOU ALL HAVE VERY BIG JOBS TO START WITH.
THIS IS JUST LIKE ANOTHER ADD ON TO YOUR ALREADY VERY BIG JOB THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MANAGE.
SO IS THERE ANY, ANY UPDATES ON THAT OR.
I DON'T WANT TO. CHAIRMAN LUCE.
MISS HIGGINS, DENNIS BLUNT, FOR THE RECORD.
CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE A POSITION FOR THAT, AND THERE'S NOT ONE BEING CREATED.
HOWEVER, AS A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE JUST TAKING YOUR IDEAS AND THEN HAVING SOMEBODY IN PLACE TO WORK ON THEM.
IT IS UP TO THE BOARD TO PLAN EVENTS, DECIDE EVENTS CALCULATE.
AND THAT'S WHY THE SUSTAINABILITY PLAN IS SO IMPORTANT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A GOOD CONFERENCE THAT MISS CONNOLLY WENT TO, BUT THAT SHOULD BE BUDGETED.
SO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD WOULD HAVE THAT MONEY TO SEND EVERYBODY TO AND PUT THAT IN PLACE.
SO EVEN IF THEY HIRED SOMEBODY THAT DID SUSTAINABILITY, THAT WOULD BE TO LOOK AT HOW TO IMPLEMENT YOUR IDEAS AND STUFF INTO THE CITY, INTO THE CITY PLAN AND GO.
BUT STILL ALL THAT COMES FROM YOU.
CURRENTLY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
WHAT THEY NEED. HOW MUCH YOU NEED FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
HOW MUCH YOU NEED FOR EDUCATION.
HOW MUCH YOU MIGHT NEED FOR TRAVEL.
HOW MUCH YOU MIGHT NEED TO BUY PLANTS TO DO EVENTS, HOW MANY EVENTS YOU WANT TO DO EACH YEAR.
AND THEN COUNCIL, OF COURSE, WILL NEGOTIATE BACK AND FORTH WHATEVER YOU ASK FOR.
THEY ASKED FOR A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS ORIGINALLY.
AND OF COURSE, THROUGH THE COURSE OF TIME IT GOT DOWN TO 325,000.
AND THEN IN THE FINAL CUT IT WAS 175 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT THEY ENDED UP DOING.
THIS IS THE MONEY WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ACHIEVE IT.
AND THEN YOU PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL AND THEY GIVE YOU A BUDGET.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO BRING THIS TOGETHER.
PLUS, YOUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN SHOULD BE REVISED YEARLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING CHANGES YEARLY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO.
AND THEN STAFF IS HERE TO ASSIST ANSWER QUESTIONS.
LIKE YOU MENTIONED FOR THE COUNCIL REPORT, YOU WOULD COME IN AND ASK PUBLIC WORKS, WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS DONE WITH, SAY, PONDS OR WITH THIS OR WITH NATIVE VEGETATION? AND THEN ERIC OR DEREK OR JOSE OR MYSELF WOULD PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION.
AND THEN IT GETS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AS A REPORT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS.
IT'S REALLY EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE VOLUNTEERS, STAFF DOESN'T ACTUALLY DO EVERYTHING.
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IT'S REALLY YOU GUYS ARE RUNNING THE SHOW, AND THEN YOU GUYS HAVE TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER AND LAY IT OUT, AND THEN IT'LL BE EASIER FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD TO OBTAIN FUNDS FROM COUNCIL THAN IT WOULD BE FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO ASK FOR EXTRA MONEY TO PROVIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE.COULD YOU ALSO GIVE SOME MORE EXAMPLES OF HOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS? I KNOW THAT YOU WENT INTO IF WE NEED REPORTS OR SOMETHING PULLED THAT WE CAN COME TO YOU.
BUT LIKE CROSS-DEPARTMENT PARTNERSHIPS, IF WE HAVE THIS ACTION PLAN, ARE YOU ALSO COORDINATING WITH THEM OR IS THAT HOW WOULD THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS COME INTO PLAY? I DON'T KNOW, CAN YOU JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH YOUR LEVEL OF SUPPORT FOR US? OKAY. YES, MA'AM.
OVER HERE. ERIC. OH, SUPERINTENDENT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
SORRY. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE REASON THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN IS ON THE AGENDA IS LITERALLY SO THAT YOU GUYS COULD PICK A SECTION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD AND LET US KNOW WHAT SECTION YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW SO IT CAN BE REVISED.
WE'RE NOT IN CONTROL OF THE ENTIRE THING BECAUSE WE DON'T WORK FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND THEN IN THE MONTH THAT YOU'VE PICKED THE TRAFFIC OPS SECTION, YOU COULD REVIEW THE ENTIRE SECTION, KNOW IT VERY WELL, AND THEN HE COULD COMMUNICATE WITH YOU WHEN YOU GET HERE AND YOU GUYS CAN HAVE AN INTERACTION TO DISCUSS WHAT NEEDS UPDATED ON THAT SECTION, OR WHAT SHOULDN'T BE UPDATED, OR WHAT'S ON THERE OR WHAT OR NOT.
LIKE THE LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE MR. LEWIS SAID THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT CODES.
SO WE PULLED THE FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT CODES.
WE SCHEDULED LISA FRAZIER TO BE HERE.
SO THAT'S WHERE OUR SUPPORT COMES IN, IS YOU GUYS WOULD DIRECT US.
HEY, I WOULD LIKE TO REVISE AND START WORKING ON THIS ONE SECTION.
COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU AND INTERACT AND GET SUGGESTIONS ON HOW YOU COULD CHANGE IT OR REVISE IT.
OR MAYBE YOU WANT TO KEEP IT THE SAME WAY THAT IT WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY IN THERE.
I WONDER IF WE DO EXACTLY THAT AND SETTING ASIDE THE BUDGET MOMENTARILY, BUT GOING THROUGH, MAYBE IT'S LIKE WE PICK A MONTH THAT OR MAYBE IT'S TWO MONTHS OR SOMETHING, BUT NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU GO THROUGH A LOT OF IT.
I THINK A LOT OF WHAT WAS THE TWO OF YOU DISCUSSED WAS LIKE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
SO LIKE THE FLOOD STUFF WITH ME.
I KNOW THE, LIKE, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK IS IN HERE THAT WE COULD PUT IN, OR MAYBE MAKE IT MORE BLUNT THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT LANDS AND PUT EASEMENTS AND SUCH THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
OR I KNOW WE'RE GETTING TO THE HOLIDAYS TOO.
WELL, YEAH, WE HAD TO RESCHEDULE OR I KNOW THAT'S SIDETRACKING, BUT YEAH, WE WE DO HAVE A DATE IN DECEMBER, WHICH I WILL EMAIL TO YOU OR I THINK I HAD EMAILED IT TO YOU GUYS.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR HER TO COME, I CAN SEE IF SHE'S AVAILABLE.
WILL YOU? IT WAS JUST, TRYING TO SEE IF I MOVED IT ON HERE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT DAY IN DECEMBER IT WAS? WAS IT? I BELIEVE IT'S THE 17TH.
YES. I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT IF THE BOARD'S OKAY WITH THAT.
THAT OR WE CAN START THIS PROJECT IN THE NEW YEAR.
BUT I THINK WITH THE BUDGET ASPECT AS WELL.
AS DENNIS WAS EXPLAINING, KIND OF BEING PROACTIVE WITH THAT TOO, THAT WE HAVE THE SAME ABILITY.
FAIR. WE WANT TO DO A5K TYPE THING.
SO KIND OF THE BUDGET THAT WAS KIND OF SET IN PLACE FOR US THIS TIME.
KIND OF RUNNING WITH THAT, GET THAT KIND OF NAILED DOWN.
I KNOW IT KIND OF GOT PUSHED BEHIND LAST TIME.
BECAUSE WE ARE VOLUNTEERS AND WE WANT WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, A LOT OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO.
AND WHAT'S THE WHEN DOES COUNCIL USUALLY GO OVER THE BUDGET OR WHEN DOES THAT PROCESS USUALLY START? YOU START PREPARING YOUR BUDGET USUALLY AROUND JANUARY FEBRUARY.
YOU START PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
IT ALL HAS TO BE COMPLETED AND READY FOR SUBMISSION AROUND JUNE.
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MAY OR JUNE IS USUALLY THE CUTOFF.AND THAT TAKES PRETTY MUCH ALL SUMMER.
AND THEN IT GETS VOTED ON IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER 1ST.
OKAY. SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY SO WE CAN DO LIKE MAYBE JANUARY.
MAYBE THAT'S WE CAN DO LIKE A BUDGET MEETING AND KIND OF A WISH LIST AND COME UP WITH THAT.
ANY SPECIAL PROJECTS AND STUFF.
SO MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH A WISH LIST OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF THEY DO THE EASEMENTS DOES.
IS THAT DOES THAT COST MONEY OR IS THAT JUST THE CITY PUTTING AN EASEMENT OVER THE CITY LIKE LANDS THAT I WILL HAVE TO LOOK UP? OKAY. SO I THINK WE THE CITY OWNS IT.
SO WE COULD JUST IT'S LIKE A RESOLUTION OR LIKE AN EASEMENT OVER IT.
SO YOU DON'T REALLY BUYING IT FROM THE CITY? I WOULDN'T THINK SO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ANY FINANCIAL.
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IT UP.
NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD COST ANYTHING, BUT MAYBE WE CAN COME UP WITH A WISH LIST.
DO THE FLOOD STUFF AND DO NATURAL ENVIRONMENT NEXT MONTH.
THAT WAY. WE'RE BEING PROACTIVE WITH WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
AND ALSO WE HAVE TO EASE INTO GROWTH.
BUT COME UP WITH WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE GOOD.
ANY TRAININGS, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE SHOULD ATTEND OR WHATNOT.
SO. ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? I HAVE A THOUGHT.
THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR TO ME, I THINK IN TERMS OF TIME AND WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR DOING A FAIR, I WOULD LIKE FOR MY FELLOW MEMBERS TO TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND THINK ABOUT OUR TIME COMMITMENT.
WE'VE GOT SOME NEW MEMBERS ON THE BOARD, BUT MOST OF US WERE AT THE LAST FAIR, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE REALLY ASKED TO CALL VENDORS AND TO TAKE A BIG ROLE.
AND WE'RE ALREADY LATE, IN MY OPINION, FOR AN APRIL SUCCESSFUL SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
FIRST, BECAUSE WE HAVE NO BUDGET.
BUT SECOND VENDORS AND ALL THE LOGISTICS OF THAT.
WE, WE GOT A LITTLE LAZY, I THINK, IN RELYING ON THE, THE STRONG PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, BUT REALLY THAT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TO SET THAT IN MOTION.
SO I ALMOST SEE IT AS IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FAIR.
LET'S PRIORITIZE THAT AND PUT OUR ENTIRE COLLECTIVE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIZE THAT.
PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE SOME OF THE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT HAVE THAT COULD GET DONE AND ARE MORE IN TIMELY FOR THE CITY TO, TO USE.
EDUCATION THROUGH A FAIR SEEMS A LITTLE LESS TANGIBLE TO ME, A LITTLE LESS MEASURABLE.
AND I'M READY TO, TO HAVE SOME ACTION ITEMS. WE HAD THOUGHT AT ONE POINT OF HAVING THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR IN THE FALL INSTEAD OF THE SPRING, WHEN ALL THE OTHER EARTH ACTIVITIES ARE HAPPENING, THAT IT WOULD BE MORE OF A A SURPRISE EVENT FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ACTIVITY IN THE FALL, AND THAT THAT WAY WE MIGHT CAPTURE SOME OF THE SNOWBIRDS WHO ARE HERE SEASONALLY.
SO I'M I'M OKAY WITH, YOU KNOW, MOVING ON TO OTHER ITEMS RATHER THAN FOCUSING TOO MUCH ATTENTION ON THE FAIR AND THE SHORT TERM, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE MISSED THE BUDGET CUTOFF.
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YEAH. AM I CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT WAS ONE MEETING.SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THE WORKS AND GOING.
SO IF YOU KNOW SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO AFTER ON YOUR BUDGET, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IF WHAT MISS SHERMAN WAS SAYING IS IF YOU WANT TO DO THE FAIR, THEY'LL TRY TO GET YOU THE MONEY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE MONEY AND THEN APPLY IT TO OTHER THINGS.
NOW THAT WOULD COME IN IN YOUR NEWER BUDGET.
AND KEEP IN MIND TOO IN YOUR BUDGET, YOU CAN DO MULTIPLE EVENTS LIKE SOME SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS WILL DO ONE EVENT A QUARTER AND THEY'LL WORK ON ONE A QUARTER.
BUT THEN IF SOMETHING FALLS THROUGH AND YOU NEED TO PUSH IT BACK, THAT MONEY IS NOT SPECIFIC ONCE IT'S IN YOUR BUDGET, SO YOU CAN RESCHEDULE EVENTS OR PUSH IT OR DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO WITH SO.
YEAH, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE DISCUSSION THAT I HEARD.
AND ERIC CAN COMMENT ON THAT TOO, IF HE RECALLS.
SO WE DO HAVE A BUDGET AND WE HAD A DATE AND A LOCATION SET ALSO.
DO WE? I MIGHT HAVE MISSED A MEETING BECAUSE I THOUGHT THE LAST MEETING I CAME TO, WE WERE WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE PARK WAS AVAILABLE OR WE DIDN'T, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE PALM BAY REGIONAL FRED POPPY PARK, I BELIEVE, IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
I WAS JUST LOOKING AT MY CALENDAR THERE.
THERE WAS NOT A SET DATE THAT WAS VOTED ON AND DISCUSSED.
OKAY. IS THAT STILL SOMETHING? YEAH. SO LET'S MOVE THAT.
I'LL MAKE A NOTE HERE. SO IN OTHER BUSINESS WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
BUT I DO THINK WE WE NEED TO CONQUER IT NOT.
I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE NEXT YEAR IN THE FALL.
I STILL THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA, BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD GET LESS COMPETITION ON A EARTH DAY TYPE EVENT AND GET MORE PARTICIPATION, MAYBE IN THE FALL OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT TO WHEN IT'S A LITTLE SLOWER.
SO YEAH, SO I MEAN, THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
SIX WHAT? TWO? IT'S LIKE TWO SPREADS.
SO WE COULD PROBABLY DO, LIKE, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, HAVE A GUEST SPEAKER, PICK THROUGH NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND THEN ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE SMALLER ISSUES OR GO THROUGH ISSUES. SO WE COULD DO THAT KIND OF PLAN THAT TO BE PER MONTH.
AND WE CAN PICK WHICH ONES THE NEXT MONTH AND SPECIFIC TOPICS.
GOOD. WITH THE WITH THE FLOOD PRESENTATION NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
DO WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE ON THAT OR THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, ARE YOU ALL ARE WE ALL IN AGREEANCE FOR KIND OF DOING THAT? KIND OF MOTION FOR THE ACTION PLAN.
SO SO WE'RE ADDING THAT TO THE AGENDA FOR OUR NEXT MEETING IN DECEMBER.
YEAH. SO THAT MY IDEA IS THINKING THAT, LIKE, NEXT FOR DECEMBER, HAVE THE GUEST SPEAKER WITH ABOUT FLOODS AND SO LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS WE CAN GO THROUGH NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SECTION AND THEN JANUARY I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THE BUDGET ASPECT.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH TIME THAT WILL TAKE.
SO WE CAN PUT IN BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THEN ALSO DO THE BUDGET.
OR IF WE WANT TO SET THAT CHUNK OF TIME, THAT MONTH'S MEETING FOR BUDGET.
AND IF CITIZENS HAVE ANY INSIGHT THAT KIND OF DEAL, WE COULD DO BUDGET JANUARY AND THEN IN FEBRUARY WE CAN DO BUILT ENVIRONMENT, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME FOR THE FAIR.
SO MAYBE JANUARY WILL BE LIKE, DEDICATED FOR BUDGET AND FAIR.
I THINK WE MIGHT NEED FOR SOME OF THE LARGER, LIKE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
THERE'S A LOT IN THERE AND WE MIGHT NEED TO REVIEW THAT TO IT MIGHT TAKE TWO MONTHS, AND IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF NOT JUST WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, BUT WHAT IS THE WE CAN REASONABLY EXPECT TO HAPPEN IN WHAT TIME TIME FRAME IT COULD HAPPEN IN.
YEAH. AND WE CAN KIND OF HAVE A ROLLING WHEN WE GO TO THE NEXT SESSION SECTION TYPE THING.
DO WE NEED TO VOTE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FOR KIND OF PLANNING TO DIVE THROUGH THIS? WE GOT A SPEAKER AND THEN ALSO WHAT SECTION WE'RE DOING.
DO WE NEED TO DO A VOTE OR I WOULD I WOULD DO IS I WOULD TAKE IT MONTH BY MONTH FOR THE AGENDA.
SO IF DECEMBER YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT MAKE A MOTION VOTE ON THAT.
THEN JESSE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SET UP.
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SO IF YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS THAT TONIGHT OR IN DECEMBER, BUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST FOR THAT.BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO WORK THAT OUT WITH PARKS AND FACILITIES.
AND THEN I WOULD WAIT TILL THE DECEMBER MEETING AFTER THAT PORTION WAS DONE.
IT'D BE EASIER TO GO STEP BY STEP.
OKAY, SO DO I HEAR A MOTION PERTAINING TO DECEMBER FOCUSING ON.
CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION? YEAH. WHAT'S THE OVERALL GOAL LIKE FOR LISA TO COME IN TO GIVE SPECIFIC ACTION ITEMS FOR US TO PUT INTO A TACTICAL PLAN, OR ARE WE TRYING TO UPDATE THE PRESENTATION SO KIND OF EDUCATION FOR US? BACK IN 2 OR 3 MONTHS AGO, IT WAS BEFORE THE HURRICANES.
WE GOT REALLY PUSHED AROUND WITH THE HURRICANES COMING THROUGH WITH OUR MEETINGS.
SO WE ALWAYS HAVE LIKE PRESENTATIONS.
SO LIKE ONE DAY ONE MEETING, A BEER COMPANY CAME INTO DISTRIBUTOR CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL OR CONSERVATION PRACTICES THEY HAVE OR CAN NO, NOT CONSERVATION, BUT KIND OF THEIR FILTRATION SYSTEM, HOW THEY CLEAN THEIR WATER AFTER USE AND ALL THAT.
SO JUST GIVING US EDUCATION AND INSIGHT ON THEIR PRACTICES.
WE'VE HAD JUST LIKE THE SUNSHINE LAW.
WE'LL HAVE PRESENTATIONS LIKE THAT TO EDUCATE US.
AND THEN ALSO HOW WE CAN USE THAT INTO EFFECT.
AND I THINK THE SYSTEM NOW KIND OF DOING LIKE.
AND THEN WE REVIEW BECAUSE THIS WAS IN 2001.
SO KIND OF WITH DISCUSSION HOW EVERYTHING'S KIND OF EVOLVING IN THE CITY AND SUCH.
AND THEN SO KIND OF GOING THROUGH REEVALUATING OUR ACTION PLAN, SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, AND THEN HAVING GUEST SPEAKERS TO EDUCATE AND GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE TOPICS AS WELL.
SO I THINK WITH THE REVIEW, AS ERIC WAS SAYING, THAT WILL KIND OF GIVE DIRECTION OF LIKE WE THINK, FOR EXAMPLE, NOT THAT IT'S NECESSARILY ONE OF THEM, BUT SAY LIKE LOCAL BUSINESS.
OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVES, EXPLORE POTENTIAL AREAS FOR ECOTOURISM.
IDENTIFY LOCATIONS THAT COULD GENERATE REVENUE AS RESTORED AND PROMOTED.
OR WE COULD THINK LIKE, HEY, MAYBE IT'S NOT EXACTLY THIS ITEM, BUT WE CAN AMEND IT TO BEING HAVE A DIFFERENT FUNCTION, RIGHT? SO JUST KIND OF THAT AND THEN WE USE THIS AS KIND OF A GUIDE FOR MOVING FORWARD FOR EVENTS OR.
BUT WHO DOES LIKE THE ADMINISTRATIVE STUFF.
THE CITY HELPS US WITH THAT STUFF.
SO THEY HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS BECAUSE IT'LL BE PUT OUT ONLINE AND ALL THAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
NO. YOU'RE CORRECT. WHEN? WHEN, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOUR GUYS'S DISCUSSION AND A BRIEF PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE A SUGGESTION TO STRIKE SOMETHING OR, OR ADD SOMETHING WE WOULD DO THAT ON OUR END AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
AND ONCE YOU GUYS ARE GOOD WITH THAT SECTION, WE WOULD MOVE TO THE NEXT.
SO YEAH, AND WE'RE BASICALLY AN ADVISORY BOARD.
SO ANYTHING WE DO IT'S SUGGESTING TO CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT CHANGE OR TO GO THAT ROUTE.
SO NOW EVENTS THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE THE EVENTS.
RIGHT. LIKE THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
I THINK THAT'S IN THE EDUCATION AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT SECTION OF THE PLAN.
SO ANY LIKE RESOLUTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WOULD LIKE ADVISE TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THEY WOULD TAKE ACTION IF THEY WISH.
SO I'M ON ANOTHER BOARD PARKS AND REC.
AND WE TOOK ACTION TO ADVISE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE NAME OF A PARK OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
OKAY. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY SET.
AND, LIKE, PLANNING AND ZONING.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE COCOA WAS HERE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE TO BUILD OFF OF.
YEAH. AND JUST FOR YOUR EVENTS THAT WOULD ALL BE JUST BUDGET RELATED.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE A LINE ITEM FOR EVENTS, AND THEN YOU WOULD MAKE UP THE EVENTS.
BUT THEN YOU COULD HAVE THE EVENTS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. YOU WOULDN'T SPECIFY EVENTS BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT MONEY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO WHATEVER EVENTS YOU KNOW THAT YOU NEED, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT YOU CAN REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL AFTER AN EVENT.
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YOU KNOW, DURING LIKE A BOARD PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.REPORTS BACK TO COUNCIL TO SHOW WHAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD HAS DONE.
YEAH. I LIKE THE MATRIX AT THE END OF THE COCOA PLAN AND THE CITY OF SATELLITE BEACH DEVELOPMENT MATRIX. IT'S ACTUALLY THEIR IMPLEMENTATION OF EACH OF THE MAJOR OBJECTIVES.
OH, REALLY? YEAH. AND TIME FRAME.
AND WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? CITY CHAMPION.
AND THE CITY OF SATELLITE BEACH SUSTAINABILITY PLAN HAS A VERY SIMILAR MATRIX TYPE DOCUMENT TO THIS.
SO IT JUST LAYS OUT LIKE ABOUT WHEN AND WHO WHAT WHERE IS IS GOING TO TACKLE IT.
THAT MAYBE WE COULD TAKE A STAB AT AS WE GO THROUGH EACH SECTION.
ACTUALLY, THERE WAS FOR OUR PLAN.
WE HAD AN INTERN WHEN THE PLAN WAS DONE FOR THE LAST PORTION OF IT FROM A FIT.
AND SO THAT INTERN WOULD LISTEN TO US AND GO BACK AND DO ALL THE PAPERWORK, PULLING IT TOGETHER.
AND AND ONE OF THE FINAL THINGS WAS A CHART.
YOU ALL CAN SEE IT UP HERE WHERE THEY HIGHLIGHTED WITH COLOR AND KIND OF PRIORITIZED.
AGAIN, THIS WAS THREE YEARS AGO.
SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE WORK AND IT ALREADY IS OUTDATED FOR ME.
AND I WANT TO FIRST ASK A QUESTION.
AND THAT IS THE ISSUES THAT I'M INTERESTED IN RIGHT NOW ARE, AGAIN, LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF RECOMMENDING MANDATORY OR WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP WITH THE RAPID GROWTH THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN WE ACCOMPLISH RIGHT NOW? WHAT CAN WE SUPPORT AND HELP COUNSEL WITH? AND ALSO ON STORMWATER, WE'RE HAVING A HORRIBLE IT'S IT'S URGENT.
YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAST HURRICANE AND THE THE FIVE WATER WATER LEAKS AND SEWAGE LEAKS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT I LEARNED FROM THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS COUNCIL RECENTLY BY MRC IS ON STORMWATER AND RESILIENCY PLANS.
AND I KNOW OUR PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING AT THOSE VERY ISSUES OF OF UPDATING AND REVISING AND HAVING THESE TYPES OF STRATEGIC PLANS IN PLACE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY PRIORITY OF TYING THESE THINGS IN TO TO DOING REAL TIME SORTS OF THINGS, WHICH WOULD INVOLVE US NOT JUST STICKING TO THE ACTION PLAN, BUT ACTUALLY GOING BROADER AND LOOKING AT WHAT THE STORM WATER MASTER PLAN IS AND THE RESILIENCY PLAN AND SOME THINGS THAT IMPACT OUR CITY, AS WELL AS BEING FAMILIAR MORE WITH THE LID DEVELOPMENT THAT ALREADY IS IN USE AND THESE THINGS.
I GUESS WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS EACH OF THESE THINGS INDEPENDENTLY TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT REVISING OR, UPDATING THIS PLAN.
I DON'T LIKE TO OPERATE ISOLATED WITHOUT BECAUSE WE ARE, WE OVERLAP.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT WITH THE THE ATTORNEY HERE IS, IS WE OVERLAP AND WE DON'T HAVE TO OVER DUPLICATE OUR EFFORTS. SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING STARTED.
SO I WILL GIVE THAT TO YOU FOR HAVING A WAY FORWARD.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY FOR ME, JUST ONE MEETING PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK WE'RE KIND OF ROLLING.
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OURSELVES. I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO COME AND START PARTICIPATING.I WOULD ALSO LIKE FOR THE STAFF TO GIVE US THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES THAT PERTAIN TO EASEMENTS.
WELL, ON FLOODPLAINS AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, THINGS THAT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT NOW IN TERMS OF UPGRADING ALL THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.
AND I THINK CHANGES ARE ARE NECESSARY.
SO SUMMARIZE ME SO YOU'RE READY TO GET STARTED.
I AM I'M OVERLY READY TO GET STARTED.
AND THEN WHETHER THAT GOES OVER INTO JANUARY, I STILL THINK WE NEED TO DO THE BUDGET JANUARY, BUT WE CAN DO NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY FAIR IN DECEMBER AND THEN KIND OF FLOW WITH THAT.
AND THEN BUT WE CAN CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THE THE PLAN HERE.
YEAH. BUT IF IF ARE YOU GOING TO COVER THE FAIR.
I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS IT? THE FAIR.
WHAT MONTH ARE WE GOING TO START? OH, IT'D BE I WOULD SAY NEXT MONTH.
THE DOING THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
AND THEN TO START THE ACTION PLAN HERE.
THEY CAN CHECK WITH THE PARKS AND SEE IF THAT DATE WILL WORK FOR THE PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK.
AND THEN THAT WAY IN DECEMBER, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT, BUT DO.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR NEXT MONTH DOING ENVIRONMENTAL NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND HAVING OUR GUEST SPEAKER FOR FLOODING, FLOOD AND WATER SYSTEMS? I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO DO AS LOGAN SUGGESTS, AND GET TO WORK ON THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WITH A SPEAKER IF THEY'RE AVAILABLE FROM THE FLOOD.
AND DO I HEAR A SECOND? I CAN SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO DECEMBER MONTH OF DECEMBER MEETING HAVING NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ACTION PLAN REVIEW AND GUEST SPEAKER ON THE FLOOD AND WATER SYSTEMS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL OPPOSED. SAY NAY AND I VOTE AYE.
THEN WHO'S GOING TO BRING THE SPEAKER? WHO IS THE SPEAKER? WHAT WAS HER NAME? LISA.
AWESOME. I GUESS I WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY FROM PUBLIC WORKS SHOULD BE AT THAT, TOO.
OR WE HAVE THE SUPERINTENDENT JUST.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE HER TO BE HERE FOR YOU GUYS TO PERFECT HER.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, I THINK IT'S VERY EXCITING AND AND BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE ANY WAY THAT US ON THE BOARD HERE AND THE STAFF COULD TO INVITE THE CITY TO TO FIGURE A WAY TO GET CONNECTED WITH MORE AND MORE CITIZENS.
DOES SHE HAVE A OR WHEN WE TALK TO HER, IF SHE COULD LIKE GIVE US THE TOPIC, HER TITLE OF HER PRESENTATION, WE COULD GET THAT OUT TO OUR GROUPS.
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE IT IS.
IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEWHAT LID ORIENTED.
SO, SO YEAH, WE COULD GET IT OUT TO OUR GROUPS AND ENCOURAGE PARTICIPATION THAT WAY.
YOU KNOW, L I'D PLUS ALL THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.
SHE'S THE ONE WHO'S WRITING THAT.
SO THAT'S THE BLEND, RIGHT? SO, YEAH, SHE'S EVEN GOT LIKE A, YOU KNOW, HER TITLE AND A MINI PARAGRAPH.
WE COULD PUT IT IN OUR NEWSLETTER FOR THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY.
THAT'S HOW WE GOT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE BEFORE FOR THE TALLAMY PRESENTATION.
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SO JESSE CAN GET YOU ALL THAT, AND THEN WE CAN PROMOTE.OF COURSE, ALL MEETINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
SO THEY'RE POSTED THROUGHOUT CITY HALL, BUT THEN SHE CAN GET YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION.
SO YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THE THE SPEAKER NEXT MONTH.
AND YOU ALL HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST.
WHICH IS GREAT. I'M NOT COMPLAINING, BUT I WAS JUST LIKE, WOW, THIS IS GREAT.
AND SHE PUSHES OUT STUFF LIKE THAT, RIGHT? SO IF SHE COULD DO IT TOO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE SHE MUST HAVE A DISTRIBUTION OF ALL PALM BAY RESIDENTS OR SHE KNOWS WHO TO GET IT TO.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO MOTION FOR THE.
WAS THERE A MOTION MADE? YES, IT WAS FOR FOR DECEMBER.
YEP. AND IT WAS VOTED ON? YES. UNANIMOUS.
I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK, ARE YOU GOING TO INCLUDE FOR THE NEXT ONE? THERE SHOULD BE NO DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO WAIT TILL JANUARY FOR THE BUDGET.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO DO A MOTION QUICKLY ON MOVING THE BUDGET TO JANUARY'S MEETING.
YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT AND AND MOVE THAT OVER.
YEAH. AND I THINK THE THAT WE HAD ON HERE WITH THE BOARD BUDGET, I THINK WE'RE STILL KIND OF LOOKING AT WHAT MR. SHERMAN WAS WOULD HAVE TYPE DEAL.
I THINK THAT'S WHY THAT ONE'S HERE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE STARTING LIKE THE BUDGETING, GETTING INTO THE THE TEETH OF IT.
MOVE THAT TO JANUARY, START THE NEW YEAR AND PREPARE FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT WOULD BE BUDGET MEETING OR BUDGET SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY IF THERE'S A MOTION.
YES. OKAY. AND SECOND AND SECONDED.
AND THEN ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AND I VOTE AYE.
AND WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? JESSICA. JESSICA.
OKAY. WE PROBABLY SHOULD INTRODUCE HER.
WELL. I'M NOT. I WAS UNFORTUNATELY LATE.
TRAFFIC IS BAD. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL DID AT THE BEGINNING.
NO, WE DIDN'T DO IT. I MEAN, SHE WAS CAME ON, AND THEN OUR MEETINGS GOT CANCELED OR DIDN'T HAPPEN.
YEAH. SO WE'LL HAVE YOU AT THE END.
WE'LL HAVE YOU INTRODUCE YOU. OKAY.
THANK YOU. PUT YOU IN THE HOT SEAT.
JESSIE WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP DURING OTHER BUSINESS AND INTRODUCE THE NEW BOARD MEMBER, SO.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN SO THAT WRAPS UP NEW BUSINESS.
SO WE'LL GO INTO OTHER BUSINESS.
WE HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
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I KNOW WE'LL PROBABLY MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THIS TO TOPIC IN DECEMBER TO KIND OF GO THROUGH IT, BUT WE DO NEED TO DISCUSS THE DATE.IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THAT OR ANY COMMENTS ON THE FAIR? I HAD IT IN MY HEAD THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF DATES IN MIND.
WERE THEY CONNECTED TO EVENTS OR.
I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU WOULD YOU GUYS WOULD WANT IT ON A SATURDAY.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE FIFTH, THE 12TH, THE 19TH OR THE 26TH OF APRIL.
IF WE STAY WITH APRIL, YOU MEAN.
YEAH. THE 19TH PROBABLY WOULD NOT WORK BECAUSE I KNOW LAST YEAR WITH EASTER WE DECLINED ON THAT.
AND APRIL IS WATER MONTH, AND THE UTILITIES BOARD ALWAYS DOES SOMETHING ON WATER.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE ON THAT OR.
I JUST NEED A DATE FROM YOU GUYS SO I CAN CONFIRM WITH THEM OR GATHER THE INFORMATION FOR YOU.
LET'S SEE. CAN I ASK WHEN BUILDING IS TO BE DONE? IS THERE A PROJECTED COMPLETION DATE? I'M THINKING IN TERMS OF SOMETHING AROUND THAT DATE.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE IN APRIL.
IS IT UNREALISTIC? YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.
BECAUSE ONE OF THE IDEAS I ACTUALLY HAD WAS, INSTEAD OF A FAIR AS SUCH TO DO A SHOWCASE, A SHOWCASE EVENT WHERE THE CITY THAT WE WOULD HIGHLIGHT ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
AND ONE, OF COURSE, A BUILDING E BUILDING E HAS SOME REALLY VERY FUTURE.
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DEFINITELY. SO 512 OR THE 26 I THINK ARE THE OPTIONS, THE LATER DATE, THE 26. WELL, EARTH DAY IS THE 22ND.SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT GOING ON THAT WEEKEND, BEFORE AND AFTER THAT.
JUST JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
YEAH. SO I THINK 19TH IS OUT OF THE QUESTION.
IS IT TOO CRAZY TO HAVE IT THE LAST SATURDAY IN MARCH, WHICH WOULD BE THE 29TH? DID WE DID WE SET OURSELVES IN STONE THAT IT WOULD BE IN APRIL? NO. NOPE.
IT'S NOT SET IN STONE. YOU GUYS CAN, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW WHATEVER DATE YOU'D LIKE, AND I CAN TRY TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, CHECK WITH PARKS AND REC TO SEE IF IT'S AVAILABLE THAT WEEKEND. WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TIME TO ORGANIZE AN EVENT? WELL, WE WANT TO DO A5K, SO I THINK WORKING WITH FIT TO RUN IS THAT RIGHT.
YEAH. SO WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO SEE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE.
I ALSO WOULD SUGGEST WE HAVE TWO DATES IN MIND SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO IF ONE OF THEM IS UNAVAILABLE, WE HAVE A BACKUP TO SUGGEST SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IDEALLY WE WON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME DISCUSSION NEXT MONTH.
YEAH, POSSIBLY 29 AND THE FIFTH BACK TO BACK.
SO MAYBE IT WOULDN'T BE TAKE THE PARK WON'T BE TAKEN TWO WEEKENDS IN A ROW OR SO.
SO 29TH MARCH 29TH OR APRIL 5TH.
IS THE TURKEY CREEK DAY THAT EVENT THAT HAPPENS EVERY.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT IS, REBECCA? NO, I DON'T KNOW THAT SAME SITE YET FOR THAT.
ISN'T IT THE SAME TIME OF THE YEAR? LIKE, I'M THINKING THE LAST WEEKEND IN MARCH.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE, THOUGH.
SO WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE OKAY WITH IT BEING OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE HOUSES OVER HERE.
OKAY, SO THAT USUALLY IS PRETTY EARLY IN THE MORNING THERE.
FIVE K USUALLY STARTS AT 7 A.M.
OR SOMETHING. I THINK LAST YEAR WE THIS PAST SPRING WE HAD A MOVIE IN THE PARK AND WE WERE STARTING IN MID-AFTERNOON AND GOING INTO THE EVENING.
WAS THERE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FIT TO RUN? I DON'T OR HI, FOR THE RECORD, DEREK, BUT RIGHT NOW THE SERVICE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE FROM THE LAST TIME WAS RUNNING ZONE RUNNING.
I WASN'T SURE WHO WE OR WHO'S MORE POPULAR.
I'M NOT A BIG RUNNER IF YOU CAN'T TELL, BUT SO I THINK.
ARE WE OKAY WITH THE MARCH 29TH? APRIL 5TH AS TWO OPTIONS.
AND IF SO, IF THERE'S A MOTION.
WE ASKED. WE HAVE A REQUEST IN FOR AVAILABILITY OF THE PARK.
YES, FOR THE MARCH 29TH AND APRIL 5TH.
IS THERE A SECOND? I CAN SECOND.
TENTATIVE DATES OF MARCH 20TH 9TH OR APRIL 5TH OF SATURDAYS.
SO IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED.
AND IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, WE MOVE TO VOTE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAME SIGN. AND I VOTE I SO PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AND THEN IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
AND THEN I THINK WE'RE WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ON DECEMBER 2ND.
I DON'T DO WE MAKE A MOTION ON THAT? I THINK IT'S A RECURRING ITEM.
DO WE HAVE THAT AS RECURRING FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR?
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DISCUSSION AS A RECURRING ITEM? OKAY. DISCUSSION.AND THEN SO LEFT FOR TONIGHT IS UPCOMING MEETINGS OR EVENTS OF INTEREST.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY MEETINGS OR EVENTS COMING UP THEY'D LIKE TO INFORM I WILL START.
SO DECEMBER 9TH IS THE CONRADINA WREATH, A WREATH MAKING EVENT WHICH I MENTIONED TO JESSICA.
MAKING A HOLIDAY WREATH OUT OF A NATIVE PLANTS.
SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO COME.
IT'S JUST A GREAT SOCIAL THING.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS THE LID CONFERENCE.
I MEAN, I KNOW I HAVEN'T GOT THE SLIDES YET FROM THAT PRESENTATION FROM THE DAY I WAS THERE.
DID YOU ALL GET THE SLIDES YET FROM THE PRESENTATIONS? I DID NOT. NO, I KNOW THEY'RE COMING, WHICH WILL BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT WAS WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO RETAIN.
OKAY. THERE WAS A CONFERENCE OR ITS UPCOMING.
I KNOW IT WAS PASSED LAST WEEK.
SHE TOOK WEDNESDAY, I TOOK THURSDAY.
THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS TO BE APPLAUDED FOR HAVING FULL STAFFING FROM PRETTY MUCH PUBLIC WORKS.
AND IT WAS SUZANNE SHERMAN AND JOAN.
JOAN. UNCLE BROWN AND LISA FRAZIER WITH THE GROWTH AND GROWTH DEPARTMENT, IT WAS A TREMENDOUS I WAS VERY PROUD TO HAVE YOU ALL THERE.
AND IT WAS JUST, I WISH I HAD A SECRET RECORDING JUST TO PLAY BECAUSE IT WAS PHENOMENAL.
AND ACTUALLY, I SEE PALM BAY AS BECOMING A LEAD IN THIS WHOLE AREA OF IMPLEMENTING WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT CONFERENCE AS WELL AS CONTRIBUTING TO IT.
AND THEN ANY OTHER UPCOMING EVENTS OR INFORMATION? WELL, I GOT ONE.
I WANTED TO THERE IS A WE'VE HAD ONE CONFERENCE OF SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS AND SIMILAR COMMITTEES FOR MUNICIPALITIES THROUGHOUT ALL OF BREVARD COUNTY.
THE SECOND ONE HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 22ND, FROM 8 A.M.
LAST THE NUMBER ONE EVENT, WE HAD TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THIS BOARD ATTEND.
I'D LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE DO THAT AGAIN.
THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR A REPORT TO SHARE WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT WE HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD GET SOME HELP FROM THE STAFF TO KIND OF PULL THAT TOGETHER.
THAT COULD ALSO DOUBLE AS A REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.
SO WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AGAIN NEXT MONTH.
LOGAN TO FIRM UP WHO WILL BE GOING THIS YEAR? ALSO, I WANTED TO THERE'S A LOT ACTUALLY, BUT THE ONE THING I WANTED, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE OUT OF ORDER IS BEFORE WE INTRODUCE OUR NEW MEMBER, WE STILL HAVE ONE POSITION OPEN ON THIS BOARD.
AND I THINK FOR US WE HAVE GOT TO THAT.
THOSE OPEN POSITIONS HAVE BEEN OPEN.
I'M GOING TO GUESS AT LEAST SIX MONTHS, MAYBE LONGER.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THAT BOARD POSITION FILLED AND REACH OUT TO PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED HERE?
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WE MORE OR LESS ARE SELF-SELECTED.I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US NOW TO THINK, WHO STRATEGICALLY DO WE WANT TO ADD TO THIS BOARD, PARTICULARLY SINCE WE'RE TAKING ON THESE LARGE ISSUES NOW THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY TIMELY, AND I THINK PEOPLE WOULD APPRECIATE CONTRIBUTING, MAKING A CONTRIBUTION.
I ALSO WANTED TO ASK STAFF TO SEE SOME POSITIONS ARE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I KNOW I WAS APPOINTED BY KENNY JOHNSON, AND I KNOW MY APPOINTMENT ENDS WHEN KENNY JOHNSON'S TERM ENDS, WHICH IS NOT THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR.
SO WE JUST HAD ELECTIONS TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE NONE OF OUR TERMS ARE GOING TO BE ENDING WITH THE CHANGE IN CITY COUNCIL. SO MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE TERMS WILL END WHEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER LEAVES.
FOUR YEARS. SO ONCE YOU'RE APPOINTED YOU HAVE FOUR YEARS.
I THINK YOU COULD BE REMOVED AT ANY TIME IF THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBER DECIDES NOT TO.
IS THAT CORRECT OR IS IT? AND AN INCOMING COUNCIL PERSON MAY DECIDE TO KEEP WHOEVER IS STILL APPOINTED ON THE BOARD, AND THEN THAT WOULD JUST RENEW YOUR YOUR TIME.
IF THAT OPEN SEAT IS AT LARGE THEN THEY CAN LOOK AT THAT.
IF IT'S APPOINTED BY A COUNCIL PERSON AND IT'S AN INCOMING ONE.
THEY CAN APPOINT SOMEBODY IF THEY KNOW WHO IT IS.
YEAH. SINCE WE HAVE THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I THINK IT I THINK IT'S A NEW SEAT.
AND FOR THE SEAT GUYS, YOU'RE TALKING.
I THINK SO, YEAH. WELL, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REFRESH US, FOR ONE THING.
AND ALSO FOR TO FOR ALL OF US TO REALLY KEEP IN MIND THAT WE NEED MORE PEOPLE.
AND JESSE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND HAVE THAT FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO. SO LET'S LET'S HEAR FROM OUR NEWEST MEMBER.
OR DO WE HAVE A STAFF? JESSE, ARE YOU ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE HER OR AM I? SO WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER TO THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, AND THAT IS MISS JESSICA LAVELLE.
YES. OKAY, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD, AND WE'RE EXCITED THAT YOU'RE HERE.
THANK YOU. I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE.
ANY. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT BROUGHT HER HERE.
OH. THANK YOU. LOGAN, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE.
YEAH I'VE SEEN THE POSITION THAT WAS POSTED AT.
I MET THE RESIDENCY, AND I ACTUALLY MOVED FROM SEBASTIAN TO HERE.
REALLY? AND I WAS ON THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES BOARD AND REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH THE BOARD AND ON DIFFERENT THEY WERE REALLY ACTIVE AND HAD YOU KNOW, THEIR EARTH FAIR EVENT.
AND SO WHEN THIS CAME OPEN, I SAID, HEY, LET ME JOIN.
AWESOME. WELL, BRING US A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE.
SO YOU KNOW THEM? YES. I FEEL GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
WELL, IS THERE ANY OTHER INFORMATION OR COMMENTS FROM STAFF? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
AND YOU ALL HAVE ARE REALLY OUR MOTIVATION.
YES, THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR HANGING OUT WITH US TILL 738 APPLE TIME.
SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER NEW BUSINESS, WELCOME TO OUR NEW MEMBER.
THANK YOU STAFF AND THE THE HUGE AUDIENCE THAT THE CAMERA CAN'T SEE RIGHT NOW.
AND WE WILL ADJOURN AT 738 APPLE TIME.
WHAT'S APPLE TIME? THE REAL TIME. NOT THAT TIME.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.