Dec 05, 2024 Council Meetings - Regular

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YEAH. SO IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS.

I'M GOING TO CALL REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2024 DASH 31 TO ORDER.

THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR PASTOR JIM CAMPBELL.

YEAH. BAY WEST OF BAY WEST CHURCH.

PRAISE THE LORD. HE'S HERE.

AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE GIVEN BY COUNCILMAN CHANDLER LANGEVIN.

PLEASE RISE.

WELCOME, PASTOR.

WOULD YOU PRAY WITH ME, PLEASE? DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANOTHER WONDERFUL DAY HERE IN THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.

AND LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WONDERFUL CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR LEADERSHIP.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR WONDERFUL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK UNDER AND AROUND THEM.

LORD, WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR ALL OF THAT.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS STATE THAT YOU'VE BLESSED US TO LIVE IN.

AND LORD, WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THAT KEEP US SAFE FROM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

TO OUR TEACHERS AND ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND.

LORD, WE PRAY FOR TONIGHT, ESPECIALLY, LORD, THERE'S BUSINESS TO BE DONE AND LORD, THERE'S DECISIONS TO BE MADE.

AND LORD, WE PRAY FOR UNITY.

WE PRAY FOR WISDOM.

WE PRAY FOR CLARITY.

GOD, WE PRAY FOR YOUR WILL TO BE DONE IN EVERYTHING.

GOD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE PEOPLE SMART IDEAS, FATHER, THAT YOU WOULD BRING CONSENSUS TOGETHER.

FATHER, I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD CALM ANY HARSH WORDS BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT PROFITABLE.

LORD, I PRAY THAT ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE SAID WOULD BE DONE IN A WISE MANNER, FOR THE GOOD OF ALL, AND NOT THE GOOD OF JUST A FEW.

AND LORD, I PRAY THAT WE WOULD ALL WORK TOGETHER IN UNITY SO THAT WE COULD CONTINUE TO PROGRESS IN THIS CITY, NOT JUST AS A CITY, BUT ALSO AS A COMMUNITY AND AS PEOPLE.

AND LORD, LET US BE A SHINING LIGHT AND AN EXAMPLE FOR THE FOLKS AROUND US IN OTHER CITIES AND OTHER PLACES ABOUT HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE AND HOW THINGS GET DONE. SO LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR EVERY ONE OF THE PEOPLE HERE.

BLESS THEM. GIVE THEM WISDOM.

KEEP THEIR PATIENCE FIRED UP AND DOING WELL.

AND LORD, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU ARE.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY. AMEN.

AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HURRAH! MAN, I GOTTA TELL YOU, I GET SO MOTIVATED WHEN EVERYONE SAYS THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ALL IN UNISON.

YOU GUYS MAKE ME WANT TO GO RUN THREE MILES.

YEAH, YEAH.

ROLL CALL.

MAYOR MEDINA. PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR. JAFFE.

PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. PRESENT.

MR. ROBINSON.

PRESENT. MISS SMITH HERE.

SO, DEPUTY MAYOR, WE'VE GOT ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITIONS.

SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT. ONE VACANCY ON THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD TO REPRESENT ONE OF THE FOLLOWING FIELDS RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BANKING INDUSTRY. RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDING.

ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING OR FOR PROFIT PROVIDER POSITIONS.

THIRD ANNOUNCEMENT IS TWO TERMS EXPIRING ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD REPRESENTS AT LARGE POSITIONS.

AND THE LAST ANNOUNCEMENT ONE VACANCY ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE EXECUTIVE BOARD.

ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY.

FLORIDA. ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9523414.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

NOW WE HAVE AGENDA REVISIONS, MR.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, UNDER CONSENT AGENDA, THE DISPUTE RESOLUTION PARAGRAPH HAS BEEN REVISED WITHIN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF MALABAR.

THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENT APPOINTED SCOTT MORGAN AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM SIX ON THE NEW BUSINESS.

AND THE APPLICANT FOR NEW BUSINESS ITEM ONE IS REQUESTING THAT ITEM BE MOVED UP IN THE AGENDA.

POSSIBLE PLACE COULD BE BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

ITEM ONE. NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE. DID YOU SAY.

YES, SIR. PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

YES, SIR. I NEED A MOTION, GENTLEMEN, TO MOVE.

ITEM NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE.

TO PRIOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEY SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSE PASSES FIVE ZERO.

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STAFF IS REQUESTING TO MOVE NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER SIX.

UP IN THE AGENDA AS WELL.

TO MOVE RIGHT BEFORE RIGHT BEHIND NEW BUSINESS ITEM ONE, WHICH WE JUST APPROVED.

SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'LL SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

SO IT'LL BE ALL IN FAVOR.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.

SO WE'VE GOT NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER ONE AND NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER SIX PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THAT'S IT FOR ME, MAYOR. THANK YOU.

MADAM SMITH, ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NO, SIR. OKAY.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

IT'S THE MOST WONDERFUL TIME OF THE YEAR.

IN A GREAT WAY.

IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME.

SO I'M GOING TO CALL UP SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA TEAM.

PASTOR KENNY, CALL UP YOUR TEAM.

WE'VE GOT MEMBERS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ON THIS TEAM FROM WAY BACK IN 2009.

I'M LOOKING AT EDDIE FROST AND ICE CRYSTAL, SO COME ON UP.

COME ON UP, GUYS.

ANY DAY.

THAT MEANS ALL OF YOU.

THE WHOLE CREW. COME ON UP HERE, SIR.

THANK YOU SIR. GLORY TO GOD.

I'M FROM THE PAST.

YEAH, YEAH. YEAH. SO.

SO. FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA DAY, DECEMBER 21ST, 2024.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

WHEREAS THE HOUSE CHURCH WHERE YOU LOVED, ACCEPTED AND CONNECTED THE CITY OF PALM BAY RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND SEVERAL COMMUNITY BUSINESS PARTNERS SUCH AS THRIFTY SPECIALTY PRODUCE, COCINA CAFE.

NOTICE HOW I SAID THAT CHICK FIL A AND GOLDEN GATOR AUTOMOTIVE.

FROG BONES, A FAMILY SHOOTING CENTER Z80 8.3 ALL DIGITAL, ALL DAY DOUBLE SCOPE INSPECTIONS ALL DAY TODAY NEWSPAPER.

MARTIN'S FAMOUS POTATO ROLLS, GOLF CARTS UNLIMITED AND PREMIER OAKS TEN CINEMA HAVE RECOGNIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF PROVIDING A POSITIVE VENUE FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND CHILDREN TO CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.

AND WHEREAS WHAT MAKES THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA SO SPECIAL IS THAT THERE'S NO COST TO ATTEND.

EVERYTHING IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC, FROM COTTON CANDY TO HOT DOGS TO LIVE MUSIC AND FUN ACTIVITIES FOR KIDS.

THE SPONSORS OF THIS ANNUAL EVENT HAVE COMMITTED TO SERVING OTHERS DURING THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON AND GIVING BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY AND MAKE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN SOMEONE'S LIFE.

LISTEN, WHAT'S NOT NOTED HERE IS THE COUNTLESS HOURS OF VOLUNTEER HOURS.

EVERYONE THAT YOU SEE HERE DOES THIS BECAUSE THEY TRULY LOVE OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S ALL FREE, NO WAGES.

WHEREAS THE DEMONSTRATION OF LOVE.

THE HOUSE CHURCH.

EAST WIND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH.

VICTORY IN CHRIST JESUS.

MINISTRY MINISTRIES.

JORNADA EL CIELO.

CHURCH ON THE ROCK.

TRUTH REVEALED.

WINGS OF GRACE MINISTRIES, LIFEPOINT CHURCH, CEDAR RESCUE MISSION, AND FIRESTARTER MINISTRIES HAVE ALL UNITED TO BRING THE 16TH ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

WHEREAS PASTOR KEN DELGADO, THE SENIOR PASTOR.

OF THE HOUSE CHURCH, HAS SAID WITH TODAY'S NEWS BEING FILLED WITH DIVISION, CONTENTION AND EXPRESSIONS OF HATRED, IT IS EXCITING TO SEE THE CITY OF PALM BAY, ALONG WITH THE CITY'S BUSINESSES AND ITS CITIZENS, CREATE AN EVENT WHERE LOVE, JOY AND PEACE IS EXPRESSED. THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA IS THE GREATEST EXPRESSION THAT SO MANY PEOPLE YEARN FOR, AND IT IS WHAT THE ANGELS PROCLAIMED AT THE BIRTH OF JESUS, SAYING PEACE AND GOODWILL TOWARDS MEN.

ISN'T THAT AWESOME? YEAH.

COME ON, YOU GUYS GOTTA GET EXCITED.

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THE EVENT WILL FEATURE UNIFIED SOUND WITH JOEL LOPEZ, WHICH, BY THE WAY, THEY WERE NOMINATED FOR A DOVE AWARD.

THIS EVENT WILL ALSO FEATURE EXTRAVAGANZAS GOT TALENT? WHICH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU GOT TALENT, SUBMIT YOUR AUDITIONS TO FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA@GMAIL.COM.

THE GRAND PRIZE IS $1,000.

SO HAVE YOU GOT TALENT? COME ON, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.

THE EVENT. WE ALSO HAVE EDDIE ANTHONY AS EDDIE FROST, JESSICA MORALES AS FALLON, AND COREY SPRINKLE WITH SACHSE SOUND. WHEREAS OVER THE LAST 16 YEARS, THIS WONDERFUL EVENT HAS BECOME THE LARGEST CHRISTMAS PARTY ON THE SPACE COAST AND WILL TAKE PLACE SATURDAY, DECEMBER 21ST FROM 1030 TO 5 AT FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK AT 1951 MALABAR ROAD, PALM BAY, TO PROVIDE AN UPLIFTING MESSAGE OF HOPE AND A FUTURE DURING THIS CHRISTMAS SEASON AS SO MANY FAMILIES CONTINUE TO HAVE DIFFICULT CHALLENGES. NOW, THEREFORE, I, RON MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY TO SET OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 21ST, 2024 AS FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA DAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND COMMEND THE HOUSE CHURCH, LOCATED IN PALM BAY AND ITS PARTNERS, FOR HOSTING THIS 16TH ANNUAL FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS WONDERFUL EVENT.

SO GET ALL YOUR CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BRING THEM OUT.

GET THE PARENTS PERMISSION FIRST THOUGH, BUT BRING THEM OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT TIME.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I HAVE SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIFTH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2024.

PASTOR KEN DELGADO.

HERE IS YOUR PROCLAMATION TODAY.

PRAISE THE LORD. A COUPLE OF WORDS AND DON'T FORGET TO SEE THE VIDEO.

FIRST OF ALL, HE SAYS SENIOR, BECAUSE I PASSED 70 YEARS OLD.

SO, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT EVERYBODY LOOKS IS A SENIOR AT 70, RIGHT? AND ALL THE SENIORS SAID, YEAH, YEAH.

AND NOW LOOK AT THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU REAL QUICK AND SMILE AT THEM AND SAY, MERRY CHRISTMAS.

YEAH. YOU MIGHT AS WELL SMILE BECAUSE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MERRY CHRISTMAS.

NOT NOT GRINCH CHRISTMAS.

THIS IS MERRY CHRISTMAS BECAUSE IT'S FOR DOUBLY FREE.

COME ON, LET ME HEAR IT AGAIN.

OH, BUT WITH THAT, WE JUST WANT TO FIRST CUE A VIDEO FOR YOU TO TO LOOK AT.

FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR.

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I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE NEW, BUT THE ONES THAT WERE HERE PREVIOUS.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE THIS AS THE LARGEST CHRISTMAS GET TOGETHER ON THE SPACE COAST.

AMEN. I BELIEVE THE LAST TIME THEY GAVE US AN ACCOUNT OF ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE THAT CAME THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

WANT TO THANK THE OUR OUR GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT HELPED MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT INVITED US TO BE IT, TO HAVE IT HERE INSTEAD OF IN WEST MELBOURNE, WHICH WAS A GREAT HONOR TO COME TO THE CITY WHERE OUR CHURCH IS AT.

BUT WE ARE MISSING SOMEBODY HERE.

WE'RE MISSING PASTOR MARK MILLER FROM THE VICTORY IN CHRIST CHURCH, WHO SHOULD BE RIGHT UP HERE AS ONE OF THE.

COME ON, COME ON UP HERE.

YOU'RE. HE CALLED EVERYBODY.

YEAH, I KNOW YOU'RE OUT OF UNIFORM, BUT THAT'S OKAY.

YOU GOT YOU GOT THE SANTA CLAUS LOOK, YOU GOT YOU GOT THE SANTA CLAUS.

LOOK. THERE YOU GO. I DO GOT THE SANTA CLAUS.

LOOK, I'M NOT 70 YET, THOUGH.

SO I'M A JUNIOR SANTA.

BUT. BUT LET ME JUST SAY THIS.

IF YOU IF YOU DIDN'T SEE YOUR BUSINESS ON THE LIST OF SPONSORS, THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO THANK THE PEOPLE, THE COMMUNITY OF PALM BAY, FOR KEEPING YOU IN BUSINESS AND GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

THIS IS A COMMUNITY EFFORT.

IT'S A FAMILY OF FAMILIES THAT ARE COMING TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE AN EVENT THAT WE CELEBRATE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND AND EVERYBODY'S INVITED.

WE JUST JUST COME DOWN, BRING YOUR GRANDCHILDREN.

IT LOOKS LIKE HERE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD HAVE GRANDCHILDREN.

SO BRING YOUR GRANDCHILDREN OVER AND LET THEM HAVE A GREAT TIME.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF THESE GREAT WORKERS FOR SO MANY CHURCHES.

GIVE THEM A BIG HAND CLAP.

YEAH, THEY'RE ALL GOOD LOOKING, AREN'T THEY? THEY'RE GREAT LOOKING.

AND AND SO WE'RE JUST INVITING YOU AND OTHER CHURCHES.

LOOK, RIGHT NOW WE'RE WE'RE BEING TELEVISED.

SO HEY, CHURCH AND BUSINESS PERSON, YOU OUGHT TO BE SPONSORING IT RIGHT NOW.

WHERE ARE YOU? WE WANT YOU ON THAT LIST BECAUSE IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME AND AND THE WEATHER'S.

THE WEATHER IS NICE, RIGHT? YEAH. WE GOT THE FIRE PITS GOING IF WE HAVE ONE.

AND WE JUST WANT TO INVITE EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND ENJOY YOURSELF A GREAT DAY, JOIN THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE A HAVE A WONDERFUL TIME AND AGAIN FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

NO MATTER WHAT OTHER PEOPLE SAY.

LISTEN, I'LL JUST CLOSE OUT WITH SAYING THESE INDIVIDUALS HERE HAVE DEVOTED SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN YEAR IN, YEAR OUT FOR 16 YEARS, AND UNDERSTAND IT TAKES A CONCERTED EFFORT TO PREPARE FOR 20,000 PEOPLE AND SERVE ALL THE CHILDREN THAT COME.

SO JUST TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, NO ONE UP HERE DRAWS A SALARY.

IT'S DONE OUT OF THEIR HEART.

THEY DO IT SO THAT OTHERS MAY LIVE.

SO GIVE IT UP FOR THEM.

THANK YOU. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE.

OH, YEAH.

PICTURE. PICTURE.

PICTURE. YES, SIR.

LET'S ALL GET TOGETHER.

LET'S ACT LIKE WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

NO SOCKS. SOCKS, SOCKS.

WE'RE ALL FAMILY. CAN YOU SQUEEZE US IN? LET ME STAND BY HAMER. WE'LL DO.

WE'LL DO. SHORTER. TALL. SHORTER.

TALLEST. THERE YOU GO.

I'LL STAND ON MY TOES.

YEAH. YOU'RE THE SHORT ONE. YOU SHOULD BE UP HERE.

SURE, I GUESS. TIPPY TOE, TIPPY TOE.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DO. FOR REAL.

ON THREE. ONE.

TWO. THREE.

MERRY CHRISTMAS.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

HEY. GOOD TO SEE YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. WHAT'S UP BUDDY? HOW YOU DOING, BUDDY? HEY, BABY. I SEE Y'ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

I KNOW YOU BRING IT UP. I WAS GOING TO SAY FIRE.

I KNOW YOU'RE BRINGING THE SNOW.

THERE WE GO. BRING THE SNOW.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. GOOD TO MEET YOU.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

YES. THANK YOU. HELLO.

YES. THANK YOU.

YEAH, YEAH. THANK YOU.

THAT'S GREAT. I LIKE THAT.

THANK YOU. I LIKE THE HAIRCUT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

THIS IS THE ARMS ON THE ARMS.

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I STILL HAVE. IT.

OH MY GOD.

MR. JAMES SMITH.

IS MR. JAMES SMITH HERE? DID I JUST SHOUT YOU OUT? COME ON UP HERE, MR. JAMES SMITH. YOU AND YOUR TEAM BRING YOUR WHOLE TEAM.

BUT YOU'RE THE LEADER, JAMES.

NOT REALLY. WELL, YOU ARE TODAY.

OKAY. BRING YOUR TEAM UP.

AMBER. HEY. HOW ARE YOU? CURRY. LET'S GO. COME ON UP, GUYS.

WHAT, ARE YOU SHY? I'M NOT GOING TO BITE.

HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME, WELCOME.

IS THIS THE WHOLE TEAM, JAMES? YEAH. YOU'RE THE NAME I WAS GIVEN OUT HERE.

YEAH. SO IN THE GAME.

SO, LISTEN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT LIFE IS IMPORTANT.

THE SANCTITY OF LIFE IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO WHEN WE LOSE SOMEONE, WE MOURN THAT LOSS.

AND SO RIGHT NOW, I KNOW I WAS CHEERFUL BECAUSE IT'S CHRISTMAS TIME.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE FOR THOSE THAT WERE HOMELESS.

SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL HOMELESS PERSONS MEMORIAL DAY.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND I STILL PROCLAIM IT'S THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

WHEREAS HOMELESSNESS HAS CAUSED OR HASTENED THE DEATHS OF INADEQUATELY HOUSED LOW INCOME PERSONS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

WHEREAS THE SPIRIT OF THE HOLIDAY SEASON OF GIVING PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR AFFIRMATION AND RENEWAL REGARDING THE COMMITMENT TO END HOMELESSNESS. AND WHEREAS, DECEMBER 21ST, THE FIRST DAY OF WINTER AND THE LONGEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR, HAS BEEN DESIGNATED NATIONAL HOMELESS PERSONS MEMORIAL DAY BY THE NATIONAL COALITION FOR THE HOMELESS.

AND WHEREAS, THE BREVARD CONTINUUM OF CARE COALITION HAS PLANNED COUNTY WIDE MEMORIAL EVENTS RECOGNIZING HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED IN OUR COUNTRY.

AND WHEREAS IN THIS SEASON OF GENEROSITY, IN THIS SEASON OF SHARING, CITIZENS OF BREVARD COUNTY ARE ENCOURAGED TO COMMIT THEMSELVES TO PROMOTE COMPASSION AND CONCERN FOR FELLOW CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE POOR AND HOMELESS.

AND WHEREAS, IN REMEMBERING THOSE WHO HAVE DIED ON OUR STREETS, IN OUR EMERGENCY SHELTERS, AND IN CONDEMNED OR ABANDONED PROPERTIES FROM AILMENTS OR CONDITIONS DIRECTLY RELATED TO HOMELESSNESS, THE CAUSE OF ENDING HOMELESSNESS IS KEPT URGENT, AS IN THE COLLECTIVE COMMITMENT TO PREVENTING SUCH DEATHS IN THE FUTURE.

NOW, THEREFORE, I ROB MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY TO SET OFF AND DO HEREBY PROCLAIM DECEMBER 21ST AS NATIONAL HOMELESS PERSONS MEMORIAL DAY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND I CALL UPON ALL OUR CITIZENS OF PALM BAY TO JOIN ME IN REMEMBERING THOSE WHO HAVE DIED HOMELESS AND TO ENCOURAGE CITIZENS TO COME TOGETHER TO CELEBRATE THEIR LIVES BY WORKING TO RESOLVE THE FACTORS THAT LEAD TO HOMELESSNESS WITHIN OUR CITY.

IN WITNESS HEREOF, I SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE AFFIXED THIS FIFTH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2024. CONGRATULATIONS, JAMES.

ARE YOU GOING TO BE SPEAKING OR ARE YOU GOING TO SIGN THAT TO SOMEONE ELSE? I GUESS I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS, JAMES.

HERE'S YOUR PROCLAMATION, THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE THE MIC. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JAMES SMITH AND I AM THE COORDINATED ENTRY MANAGER FOR THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION AND A VERY PROUD RESIDENT OF THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF PALM BAY.

JOINING ME THIS EVENING, I HAVE AMBER CARROLL, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SARAH SLOAN, OUR COC PLANNING DIRECTOR, LEANNE DATTOLI, OUR FINANCE MANAGER, MISS JEANETTE, SHE'S FROM SPACE COAST HEALTH FOUNDATION, AND WE ALSO HAVE JOHN CURRY FROM SAFE PLACE TREATMENT CENTERS AND ANY OTHER MEMBER OF THE COC THAT I MISSED TODAY.

IF YOU'RE IN THE ROOM YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME UP.

DON'T BE SHY BY SITTING DOWN.

WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE MORE PEOPLE UP AT THE FRONT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN DECLARING DECEMBER 21ST AS NATIONAL HOMELESS PERSONS MEMORIAL DAY.

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WITH THE ENFORCEMENT OF HOUSE BILL 1365 SET TO BEGIN JANUARY, PROVIDING A SAFE PLACE FOR INDIVIDUALS TO SLEEP HAS NEVER BEEN MORE CRITICAL, AND OUR 2024 POINT IN TIME COUNT THAT IS A HOMELESS CENSUS IN BREVARD COUNTY.

IT WAS REVEALED THAT BREVARD COUNTY HAS THE HIGHEST COUNT SINCE 2015, WITH 1116 RESIDENTS OR, AS WE LIKE TO CALL IT, OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION OR OUR COMMUNITY IN OUR COUNTY.

BREVARD COUNTY UNSHELTERED POPULATION INCREASED BY 17% FROM THE LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, IN 2024 TO 100, I'M SORRY TO 779 RESIDENTS, THOSE WHO ARE CHRONICALLY HOMELESS, MEANING THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN UNSHELTERED FOR ONE FOR ONE YEAR OR MORE AND ALSO HAVE A DISABLING CONDITION, ROSE TO A HEARTBREAKING 72%.

NATIONALLY, BREVARD COUNTY IS BEING RECOGNIZED FOR OUR HOMELESS NUMBERS, BUT NOT IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.

AND THE MOST RECENT ANNUAL HOMELESS ASSESSMENT REPORT ALSO CALLED THE AHAR, THE CONGRESS.

OUR COUNTY IS IN THE TOP FIVE NATIONWIDE FOR THE LARGEST SUBURBAN SEAHAWKS, WITH THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING CHRONIC HOMELESS PATTERNS AND UNSHELTERED HOMELESSNESS IN FLORIDA.

OUR COUNTY RANKS NUMBER SIX IN THE STATE FOR BOTH UNSHELTERED AND CHRONIC HOMELESS.

WE'RE ALSO NUMBER THREE IN THE STATE WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESS VETERANS.

THIS IS A GROWING PROBLEM AND ONE THAT AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO SOLVE.

TOGETHER, WE CAN MAKE HOMELESSNESS RARE AND NON-RECURRING.

THAT'S ACTUALLY MY FAVORITE STATEMENT FOR BREVARD COUNTY RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THROUGH THROUGHOUT A REGIONAL AND COORDINATED APPROACH DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON, WE WILL MEMORIZE, I'M SORRY, MEMORIALIZE THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO HAVE DIED IN THE STREETS OR IN OUR SHELTERS FROM CONDITIONS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THEIR HOMELESSNESS. IN MANY CASES, THOSE SERVICES WILL BE THE ONLY COMMEMORATION OF THEIR LIVES.

WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE HERE, ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL, TO TAKE PART IN ONE OF THE THREE CEREMONIES ON ON DECEMBER 19TH THIS YEAR.

WHERE'S SARAH? SARAH, DID YOU GET THE BOOKS? YOU ALREADY GIVE THEM OUT. OKAY, PERFECT.

COUNCIL HAS THE PAMPHLETS AND THE BOOKLETS WITH THOSE DETAILS OF THOSE LOCATIONS.

AND FINALLY, OUR 2025 POINT IN TIME COUNT WILL BE HELD JANUARY 23RD.

THERE ARE MANY WAYS TO GET INVOLVED, AND WE INVITE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

INFORMATION IS ALSO INSIDE THE BOOKLET FOR THE COUNCIL'S MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND WE HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE AT ONE OF THE MEMORIALS.

THANK YOU. HEY, HEY.

THANK YOU. WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A PICTURE OVER HERE.

LET'S ALL DO IT TOGETHER. DO YOU WANT TO DO IT THIS TIME? LET'S BE IN THE MIDDLE. SURE.

YEAH, EXACTLY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK COUNCILMAN. GOOD TO SEE YOU, BROTHER.

GOOD TO SEE YOU, SIR. YES, SIR.

SEE YOU SIR. NICE TO MEET YOU, SIR.

VERY FINE. THANK YOU.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, MA'AM. DEFINITELY.

PLEASURE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GOOD TO SEE YOU. GOOD TO MEET YOU.

[1. Consideration of a co-sponsorship request from The Indian Association of the Space Coast, Inc. for the Third Annual Palm Bay Indian Kite Festival on January 26, 2025, at Fred Poppe Regional Park.]

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

AND I WILL START.

I'LL TEE IT OFF TO MR. ROBINSON. YES, MAYOR.

THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORS REQUEST FROM THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST, INC.

FOR THEIR THIRD ANNUAL PALM BAY INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL, TO BE HELD ON JANUARY 26TH, 2025, AT THE FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE AS WELL.

WOULD YOU CALL WANT TO BRING THE APPLICANT UP TO SPEAK? YES, SIR. OKAY.

COME ON UP.

SO MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN AND EVERYONE, GOOD EVENING TO ALL.

MY NAME IS ANKUR SHAH.

I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE INDIAN ASSOCIATION OF THE SPACE COAST.

IT'S A 500 1C3 ORGANIZATION.

I'M ACCOMPANIED BY MY COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THE UPCOMING PRESIDENT FOR 2025.

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TODAY I'M HERE TO REQUEST ONCE AGAIN FOR THE THIRD TIME FOR THE INDIAN PALM BAY CITY OF PALM BAY INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND WE HAVE GREAT RESPONSE.

WE HAD GREAT SUPPORT.

IT'S A PERFECT FAMILY EVENT.

OUTDOOR EVENT. YOU GET TO FLY KITES.

WE HAVE SOME SAMPLES OF THE KITES THAT WE LIKE TO PASS AROUND AS WELL FOR PEOPLE TO SEE.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE I'M NOT AS GOOD AS THE SENIOR PASTOR HERE WHO WHO GAVE AN AMAZING PITCH FOR EVERYONE TO BE THERE.

I WISH I COULD BE AS GOOD, OR I CAN ASK YOU TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF.

BUT YOU KNOW EVERYONE WHO IS GOING TO BE AT THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

I ASK EVERYONE TO BE AT THE INDIAN KITE FESTIVAL AS WELL.

IT'S A FUN EVENT FOR EVERYONE.

EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE THERE FOR KIDS.

OR ADULTS. THAT IS BOUNCY HOUSE, FACE PAINTING.

INDIAN. THERE'S GOING TO BE TALENT SHOW INDIAN PERFORMANCES FROM KIDS VOLUNTEERS.

IT'S IT IS A PERFECT FOR EVERYONE.

LOOK AT ME. OKAY.

SORRY. BECAUSE YOU'RE ON TV AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT.

I'M SORRY. OKAY, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO PITCH THEM AND THANK YOU.

I WANT TO REQUEST EVERYONE, THE COUNCILMAN MAYOR AND EVERYONE CITY STAFF, PLEASE COME AND BE PART OF IT.

THESE KITES ARE SPECIALLY MADE AND BROUGHT FROM INDIA.

FEEL FREE TO KEEP THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EVENT COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS EVENT, AND I'LL YIELD TO NEW COUNCIL BECAUSE WE HAVE COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND MYSELF HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THIS, SO I'LL START OUT WITH THE END.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT, COUNCILMAN HAMMER, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO PALM BAY.

I HAD A BLAST LAST TIME.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS AGAIN.

NOT REALLY A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT ALSO FOR POTENTIALLY THE CITY, POTENTIALLY THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

I DO WANT US TO REALLY LOOK AT COSPONSORSHIP POLICIES BECAUSE WE AS THE CITY ARE TAKING ON THE COST OF STAFF TIME.

IT'S ONE THING FOR FACILITIES, I FEEL, BUT WHEN WE'RE PAYING AND COVERING FOR STAFF TIME, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE ORGANIZATIONS, TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR LIKE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA, THAT'S PUTTING MONEY INTO IT AND PUTTING, YOU KNOW, AN INVESTMENT IN HAVING VOLUNTEERS INVESTED IN IT. I THINK THAT KIND OF OFFSETS THE COST RIGHT THERE.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANT STAFF TO LOOK AT.

I'VE WE'VE GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION PREVIOUSLY.

I KNOW DANIEL WEIGHT HAS BEEN LOOKING AT A FEW THINGS BUT NOTHING TO STOP THIS.

I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS TODAY.

THANK YOU. BUT TO MR. BATTEN'S POINT, I KNOW PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID NO.

YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.

WELL, THE STAFF MEMBER WAS DOING ANOTHER JOB, SO NOW THEY'RE TAKING AWAY FROM THAT JOB TO DO THIS JOB, BUT THEY'RE DOING IT FREELY.

SO THAT'S MY POINT.

BUT I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME SPEAK, MAYOR, BUT I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, SO THAT'S ALL.

DEPUTY MAYOR, ANY COMMENTS? NO, SIR. SO I'LL.

I'LL WEIGH IN ON THIS AS WELL.

THERE'S THERE'S SUCH A AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD COALITIONS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

RIGHT. AND THERE'S SO MUCH EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THESE EVENTS.

AND I AS, AS A FORMER COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND THE FIRST COMMUNITY CENTER COORDINATOR AT THE WHEELOCK COMMUNITY CENTER, WHERE WE CREATED EVENTS WE ALWAYS MANAGED TO ENCOMPASS OUR TIME AND MAKE IT A WORK WEEK.

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF IF I STAFFED FIVE INDIVIDUALS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, I WOULD STAFF THE INDIVIDUALS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND SUPPORT THOSE EVENTS DURING THE WEEKEND.

SO IT IS A COLLABORATION OF THE OF THE CITY, JOINING WITH THOSE LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT BRING SUCH AN INTANGIBLE VALUE THAT YOU CAN'T QUANTIFY A DOLLAR AMOUNT TO.

AND SO I'M PERHAPS IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT EXPERIENCE THAT I BRING THAT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

THE VALUE OF WHAT OCCURS WHEN YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY SHARE DIFFERENT CULTURES AND SHARE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO BREAK BREAD.

IT BUILDS COMMUNITY.

IT BUILDS FAMILIES.

IT BUILDS SO MUCH MORE THAT I CAN'T EVEN QUANTIFY.

SO IT'S FOR REASONS LIKE THAT THAT I SUPPORT EVENTS LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE THIS THIS GOES BEYOND WHAT SOME PEOPLE WOULD QUANTIFY AS A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR PUT A STAFF AMOUNT TO THIS IS EMPTY SPACE THAT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT BRINGS SO MUCH VALUE TO THE CITY, AND WE DO IT AT A LESS COST BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING UP THE MAJORITY OF THE COST.

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WITH THAT BEING SAID, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS? YES, MAYOR. WE HAVE BILL.

BILL. BATTEN. ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.

I KNOW MR. BATTEN WILL SPEAK IF OKAY, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT HE HAS.

SO WE'LL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK.

I JUST LIKE TO MENTION ONE THING.

YOU KNOW, I STILL REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME WHEN WE DID THE KITE FLYING FESTIVAL, YOU KNOW, IN PALM BAY TWO YEARS AGO.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YOUR SON WAS FLYING THE KITE.

YOU WERE WITH HIM, AND I WAS THERE.

AND THE SMILE THAT I SAW IN HIS FACE.

AND SO MANY KIDS LIKE HIM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS PRICELESS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A COST FACTOR TO EVERYTHING, BUT EVENTS LIKE THIS SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES.

THEY BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, RIGHT? SO THANK YOU.

IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP.

ALL RIGHT. SIR? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AS ALWAYS, I HAVE TO STATE WHAT I BELIEVE ON THE BUDGET FINANCING OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

FANTASTIC FUNCTION THAT THEY PROVIDE.

A LOT OF FUN HAD BY ALL.

BUT I DON'T LIKE THE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

WHEN WE HAVE A RESOURCE THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY FOR AND MAINTAIN THAT YOU PROVIDE THOSE THAT'S BUDGETED FINANCING COST THAT YOU GIVE TO SOME, SOME PEOPLE FREE THAT YOU MAKE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT IS CALLED PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

AND WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO ASK ME FOR MY TAX DOLLAR TO PAY FOR THIS SAME THING THAT YOU'RE GIVING AWAY FREE, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.

THAT BEING SAID, FANTASTIC ORGANIZATION.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE FUN AND A LOT OF LOT OF GOOD ACTIVITY.

BUT DON'T ASK ME FOR MY TAX DOLLARS WHEN YOU'RE GIVING SOMETHING AWAY FREE.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

NO OTHER CARDS, MAYOR.

OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE ON THIS OR ANY.

YOU WANT TO CLOSE THIS OUT? SO WHAT I'LL CONCLUDE IS THAT THE EVENT IS FREE FOR ALL AS WELL.

OKAY. WE DO NOT CHARGE FOR IT.

AND ANY REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED FROM THE VENDORS THAT COME IN, WE ARE PART OF THE REVENUE GOES BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

WE HELP STUDENTS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD EDUCATION OR ANY EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITY.

WE SUPPORT THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION.

SO EVERY MONEY THAT'S COMING IN, WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE BEST USE OF IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY, COUNCIL, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ANY DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO DISCUSSION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. NAY.

PASSES FIVE ZERO.

WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER SIX.

MR. ROBINSON.

YES, MAYOR. THIS ITEM IS A CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTING SCOTT MORGAN AS THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY ATTORNEY TO NEGOTIATE THE EMPLOYMENT AGREEMENT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD. BILL BATTEN.

OKAY. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'VE GOT THREE QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.

THE FIRST ONE WAS WHO SAT AT THE MEETING THAT WAS DETERMINING THE FOR THE HIRING OF MR. MORGAN. WHO SAT AT THAT MEETING? WHO WAS THE INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED? ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT BROUGHT UP ANY SALARY.

COST. WHAT WE WERE GOING TO BE PAYING THIS INDIVIDUAL.

AND ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WHAT WAS THE TOTAL COST OF THIS ENTIRE CHANGE OUT THAT THE CHANGING OF THE CITY MANAGER? WHAT'S THE TOTAL COST GOING TO BE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY? THREE SIMPLE QUESTIONS.

WHO SAT ON THE DETERMINING FACTOR? WHAT WE'RE OFFERING THE INDIVIDUAL.

AND WHAT WAS THE TOTAL COST OF FIRING THE CITY MANAGER? THANK YOU. SO JUST A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY, MASTER CHIEF.

WE HAD A WORKSHOP AND THEN WE WE DISCUSSED THAT.

AND SO WE GAVE MR. ROBINSON DIRECTION TO MAKE THE INITIAL CONTACT.

MR. MORGAN.

SO MR. ROBINSON, PLEASE BRIEF US ON WHO WAS AT THAT MEETING AND SO ON.

SURE. THAT MEETING WAS BETWEEN MYSELF IN TERMS OF THE NEGOTIATION AND THE SALARY COMPONENT.

THAT WAS BETWEEN MYSELF AND CITY ATTORNEY PATRICIA SMITH.

OKAY. AND SO THE SECOND FOLLOW UP QUESTION ARE THE COST A RELATED OR IS THAT NEGOTIATION STILL ONGOING? ARE WE? YES. SO PART OF THIS MOTION TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEGOTIATION FOR THAT NUMBER, FOR THE SALARY. OKAY.

OKAY. AND THEN, SO, MADAM SMITH, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE NEGOTIATION ASPECT OF IT?

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WE JUST THE THERE WAS NO MEETING TO HIRE COUNSEL DIRECTED THAT THE MR. ROBINSON CONTACT MR. MORGAN. WE DID SIT DOWN AND MEET WITH MR. MORGAN UPPER MANAGEMENT TO LET HIM KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THE CITY.

BRIEFLY TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAY GO INTO A CONTRACT.

A CONTRACT HAS NOT YET BEEN NEGOTIATED.

COUNCIL WILL AUTHORIZE ME TO NEGOTIATE, WILL BRING THAT CONTRACT BACK ONCE IT IS NEGOTIATED FOR COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, AND THEY WILL SET THAT TIME IN THIS MOTION.

SO THOSE THINGS ARE STILL PENDING, WHICH IS WHY IT'S NOT BEFORE YOU KNOW.

AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DETERMINE A DATE FOR US TO COME BACK AND BRING IT TO COUNCIL SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN, CAN HAVE.

AND AND WE'LL BE DETERMINING THAT AS WE DISCUSS THIS MOTION.

OKAY. THAT WAS CARRY ON.

THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT HE HAD WITH THE THE COST OF THAT CHANGE SO THAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, MR. ROBINSON? AT THIS POINT, MAYOR, I'M NOT EQUIPPED TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS PRESENTED.

WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS FINALIZED.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU, FOR THE RECORD TO TO STATE THAT.

THANK YOU. SO WHAT'S BEFORE US, GENTLEMEN, IS WHAT WE HAD AT OUR LAST WORKSHOP.

WE GAVE STAFF DIRECTION.

AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION NOW.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO OTHER CARDS, MAYOR.

SO THEN I'LL NEED A MOTION FOR US TO START DISCUSSING THIS.

SO MOVED. I GOT A MOTION BY.

SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. YEAH, I GOT A SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR.

JAFFE. SECONDED BY WHO? COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

OKAY. SO YOU WANT TO LEAD OFF THE DISCUSSION? DEPUTY MAYOR? YEAH.

SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, NEGOTIATIONS WITH MR. MORGAN TO TO ACT AS OUR INTERIM MANAGER.

I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH HIM IN THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE.

AND I FEEL LIKE HE BRINGS A LOT OF TALENT AND STRONG LEADERSHIP ABILITY AND THE EXPERIENCE AND YOU KNOW, HE RECENTLY HAD RETIRED A FEW YEARS AGO FROM THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE AND WENT THROUGH AN ONBOARDING PROCESS AND SEARCH FOR HIS REPLACEMENT AT MINIMAL COST.

AND SO ALL THOSE THINGS COMBINED, I FEEL LIKE HE WOULD BE A GREAT FIT TO, TO HELP US MOVE FORWARD.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU SECONDED THE MOTION.

YES, MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE I HATE TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST OPEN VENUE WE HAVE.

DO THAT, BUT WE SHOULD DISCUSS OURSELVES.

YOU'RE GOING TO CALL HIM MR. MORGAN? YES. YEAH, WELL, LET'S DISCUSS THINGS OURSELVES, AND THEN WE'LL CALL HIM UP.

WELL, I CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING UNLESS I'VE SPOKE.

I HAVEN'T HAD YOU SECOND IT, SO I THOUGHT YOU HAD TO TO HAVE THE CONFERENCE SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.

OKAY. THAT'S WHY. SO YOU CAN YOU CAN SKIP TO EVERYBODY ELSE, I THINK.

MR.. OKAY. THANK YOU.

MR.. COUNCILMAN HAMMER, YOU HAD A COMMENT.

I WOULD SAY I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH MR. MORGAN ON A COUPLE OF THINGS AS WELL WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE.

AND I WAS OVERLY IMPRESSED.

ALL THE DIALECT I'VE GOTTEN FROM EVERYBODY IS EXTREMELY ABOVE IMPRESSIVE.

SO I'M, I'M IN MOTION FOR THIS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN AT THAT END.

SURE. THANK YOU. MAYOR.

YEAH. SO ONE OF THE WHOLE POINTS OF THIS WAS TO BRING IN SOMEBODY IN THE SHORT TERM, PARTICULARLY THAT THAT UNDERSTANDS BUDGETS AND THAT'S THAT'S SCOTT MORGAN'S FORTE.

AND I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS TO HELP US GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO UNTIL WE BRING ON A FULL TIME CITY MANAGER.

SO I'M SUPER EXCITED TO VOTE FOR HIM TONIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO I THINK NOW IS A GREAT TIME FOR YOU TO COME UP AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF NOT ONLY TO COUNCIL, BUT OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. MR. MORGAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR CITY.

INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

SO THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ASSUMING THAT THE MOTION PASSES TO SERVE THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY, TO SERVE YOU AS AS THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND TO SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION DURING THIS TIME OF TRANSITION, TO TRY TO ASSIST YOU IN SECURING THE SERVICES OF A PERMANENT CITY MANAGER.

SO THIS IS TRULY AN INTERIM ASSIGNMENT.

I THINK I HAVE 43 YEARS WORTH OF EXPERIENCE IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

I RETIRED IN WEST MELBOURNE IN 2022.

BUT I'M I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ASSIST THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THIS TRANSITION TO THE VERY BEST OF MY ABILITY.

AND I DO THIS OUT OF A SERVICE HEART TO TRY TO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY BE BETTER THROUGH THIS PERIOD AND TO ASSIST YOU IN FINDING THE RIGHT PERSON THAT CAN TAKE YOU INTO THE FUTURE.

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IF SO, SELECTED.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? YES, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISTER MORGAN, FOR ANSWERING THE CALL.

I APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

I HAVE I'VE HAD A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS YOU'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS SPECIFICALLY.

AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER THROUGH YOUR YOUR LAST CITY MANAGER EVALUATION SUMMARY, WHICH WAS HIGHLY IMPRESSIVE.

I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT ON THE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT TO SEE HOW YOU IMPROVED AND WHAT YOU DID.

SO SOME OF THEM ARE SOME SIMILARITIES I'M SEEING OVER HERE.

BUT ONE I WANTED TO SPEAK ON.

A COUNCIL MEMBER MENTIONED CODE ENFORCEMENT.

THEY FELT LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN AMPED UP A LITTLE MORE.

A LITTLE MORE PROACTIVE.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT OF HOW YOU ADDRESSED OR.

YEAH, WE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT AS PART OF OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN TRANSFERRED OVER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND I THINK THAT'S A MORE NATURAL FIT FOR THAT.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A DIFFICULT THING.

WE DON'T USE A SPECIAL MASTER FOR THAT PROCESS.

WE HAVE A CITIZEN PROCESS.

WE HAD OUR CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENT THE CITY, WHICH CAN CREATE SOME ISSUES BECAUSE THE CODE BOARD HAS A CITIZEN BOARD NEEDS TO HAVE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, COUNCIL.

SO I BELIEVE THAT YOU DO CODE ENFORCEMENT THROUGH A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, WHICH I THINK IS A BETTER SOLUTION.

I HAD RECOMMENDED TO DO THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL EARLY IN MY TENURE, AND THE COUNCIL REALLY WANTED THAT CITIZEN DECISION MAKING WHEN PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING FOR CODE VIOLATIONS.

SO THE COUNCIL DID NOT WANT TO GO TO A SPECIAL MASTER, WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING THAT.

BUT IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT, IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT.

PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO BE TOLD THAT THEY HAVE TO CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WELL KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER JUST LIKE THAT, ELECTED OFFICIALS, SOME PEOPLE DON'T END UP LIKING THE DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO MAKE ON BEHALF OF THE THE LARGER COMMUNITY.

SO I'M SURE THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT THOUGHT MAYBE WERE A LITTLE BIT TOO STRINGENT IN THAT REGARD.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

FOR MY NEXT COMMENT.

UNDER NUMBER THREE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WHILE YOU HAD TO RUN A SMALLER CITY, YOU'VE HAD TO RUN MORE WORK WITH MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU HAD TO WORK WITH SEVEN. SO THAT'S A LARGER NUMBER OF PERSONALITIES AND IDEOLOGIES YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH.

AND THERE'S SOMETIMES CONCERNS.

AND ONE OF THEM I SAW WAS FOCUSING ON COUNCIL OBJECTIVES INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS OR ALSO COUNCIL'S DIRECTION BEING FELT LIKE IT'S BEEN TREATED AS A SUGGESTION AND NOT A DIRECTIVE.

HOW DID YOU NAVIGATE THAT IN THE CITY OF WEST? SO OBVIOUSLY IN THE COUNCIL MANAGER FORM, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, HAVE WORKED MY WHOLE CAREER IN THE MANAGER WORKS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE COUNCIL.

HOWEVER, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WITH SOME EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD OVER MANY COUNCILS AND MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WITH DIFFERENT OBJECTIVES, THAT THERE'S AN ABILITY FOR A MANAGER TO ASSIST EACH MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL TO TRY TO HELP OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, SECURE SOME OF THE GOALS THAT THAT EACH MEMBER HAS WHEN THEY FIRST GET ELECTED.

AND IT TAKES A WHILE, AS YOU KNOW, TO FOR NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS TO SORT OF GET THE HOW THE CITY TRULY OPERATES. BUT I THINK THAT I'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN MY CAREER IN ASSISTING COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, FROM VARIOUS POLITICAL PHILOSOPHIES.

I DON'T THINK YOU'D FIND ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT HIRED ME OVER THE YEARS.

THERE'S STILL ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THERE THAT WAS ON MY HIRING BOARD IN 2009.

BUT I THINK OVERALL, I THINK THEY FEEL LIKE I PROVIDED THEM GOOD SERVICE, BOTH AS A WHOLE, AS A DECISION MAKING BODY, BUT ALSO INDIVIDUALLY TO SUPPORT THEM AS INDIVIDUAL ELECTED OFFICIALS.

THANK YOU. MY LAST MY LAST QUESTION.

I'LL BE DONE. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SPOKE OF CONCERNS AMONGST FAVORITISM AMONGST DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OR DIFFERENT AREAS, AMONGST EMPLOYEES THAT WAS AFFECTING MORALE. HOW WERE YOU ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT AND GET DOWN TO THE ROOT OF IT? YEAH. I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT ASSESSMENT OF THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

I TRY REALLY HARD TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL IN HOW I OPERATE AS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF A LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THERE ARE PERCEPTIONS SOMETIMES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE TO BE MORE DIRECTIVE TO SOME DEPARTMENTS THAN OTHERS.

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AND SO I PROBABLY SUSPECT THAT PERHAPS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER GOT WORD FROM SOMEBODY WHO I TOLD YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND WAS PRETTY DIRECTIVE.

IT'S NOT MY NORMAL MANAGEMENT STYLE, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE NEEDS TO BE DIRECTIVE, AND IT'S FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORGANIZATION, THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.

I AGREE. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S A THIN LINE BETWEEN ACCOUNTABILITY AND HUMILITY, AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU TREAD THE LINE CAREFULLY IN LEADERSHIP.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

YES, SIR. NO, I'M GOOD MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COUNCILOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. NO QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? SO I'LL WRAP THIS UP BY SAYING, SIR, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THAT LEADERSHIP ROLE.

RIGHT. WE ASKED THIS COUNCIL ASKED THIS COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF THIS GENTLEMAN IS AVAILABLE, I PERSONALLY THOUGHT MAYBE YOU WOULD HAVE THE DESIRE TO COME OUT OF RETIREMENT.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU RECENTLY WENT INTO RETIREMENT.

I WAS HOPEFUL THAT YOU WOULD TAKE ON THE CHARGE.

SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MENTION UP HERE IS THE MORALE, THE CULTURE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT WITH OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FEELING OF UNCERTAINTY AND BRING IN THAT TYPE OF STABILITY TO, TO THE ORGANIZATION WHERE IT'LL BE A, AN ASSESSMENT OF TRANSITION, AS YOU DID PRETTY MUCH WITH WEST MELBOURNE, YOU PRETTY MUCH DID THE SEARCH, AND IT WAS NATIONWIDE WITH ICMA.

AND YOU BROUGHT SOMEONE ON THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS A PERFECT FIT FOR THE CITY OF WEST MELBOURNE.

AND, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THERE'S BEEN NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT.

THEY ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, TIM BRODY IS DOING A REALLY FINE JOB, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD COUNCIL DECISION TO TO YOU NEED TO GET THE RIGHT PERSON FOR YOUR ORGANIZATION.

I THINK HE WAS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THAT ORGANIZATION.

SO I THINK THEY'RE STILL BEING PRETTY SUCCESSFUL THERE, WHICH I'M VERY PLEASED WHEN THAT'S THAT.

THAT WAS MY COMMENT.

YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT DEPUTY MAYOR ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO DO THAT SEARCH, AND IT WAS A MINIMAL COST.

WOULD YOU SHARE THAT MINIMAL COST ON AND IT WAS NATIONWIDE SEARCH.

YES, I SEE MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE COUNCIL DO A NATIONWIDE SEARCH.

CAST THE BIGGEST NET POSSIBLE.

I BELIEVE THAT WE COULD LIKELY DO THAT IN-HOUSE AT MINIMAL COST.

I WOULD WITHOUT GOING BACK AND LOOK AT THE RECORDS.

I THINK WE PROBABLY SPENT LESS THAN 5000 IN OUR RECRUITMENT IN WEST MELBOURNE.

AND SO WE WOULD USE THE INTERNATIONAL CITY AND COUNTY MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATION AS ONE OF THE AREAS.

THERE'S OTHERS THAT REACH OUT TO PROFESSIONALS IN, IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

AND SO I THINK WE CAN.

I THINK THE COUNCIL, I THINK EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A COUNCIL, KNOW WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE AN IDEAL MANAGER.

AND SO IF YOU BRING ME HERE, I'D LIKE TO COME BACK AT YOUR NEXT MEETING WITH SORT OF A DRAFT OF, OF WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.

SO THAT WAY APPLICANTS CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUES ARE IN PALM BAY AND WHAT YOU WANT.

WHAT YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO COME HERE WITH REAL STRENGTH, WITH PROVEN SUCCESS AND EXPERIENCE IN ANOTHER PLACE SO THEY CAN HIT THE GROUND RUNNING AND NOT HAVE TO SORT OF LEARN ON THE JOB.

SO I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY COME TO A PRETTY GOOD CONSENSUS ON WHAT THOSE THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO BRING THAT TO YOU IF YOU, IF YOU APPOINT ME TO YOUR NEXT MEETING.

SO WE COULD GET QUICKLY ON THE RECRUITING TRAIL, BECAUSE THIS IS A THIS IS AN INTERIM ASSIGNMENT.

I WOULD PLAN ON TRYING TO BE HERE FOR MONTHS.

MAYBE A TINY BIT LONGER.

BUT ONE OF THE TASKS I SEE IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR YOU AND THE COMMUNITY IS TO HELP YOU FIND THE RIGHT PERSON FOR YOUR.

FOR YOUR NEXT CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE IN THAT REGARD AND AND THINK I'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN MY CAREER IN HIRING DEPARTMENT HEADS AND AND TRANSITIONING HAD A COUPLE PEOPLE AS ASSISTANTS THAT I MENTORED THAT BECAME REALLY OUTSTANDING CITY MANAGERS IN CALIFORNIA.

I KNOW WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE STAFF AND BEING ANXIOUS ABOUT THE FUTURE, I WAS AN ASSISTANT MANY YEARS AGO IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, WENT THROUGH THAT KIND OF A TRANSITION.

AND SO I SAW THE VALUE OF WHAT AN INTERIM CAN DO TO HELP PREPARE FOR THE NEXT MANAGER.

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AND SO I WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THAT FOR YOU AS WELL AS TO IS TO GAIN SOME CONFIDENCE THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO SELECT THE RIGHT PERSON TO BE YOUR NEW CITY MANAGER.

I APPRECIATE THAT AND THAT HAD TO BE SAID.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THE MATTER? BECAUSE I THINK I'M I'M SATISFIED GENTLEMEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS, I WILL GIVE YOU MY ALL.

I PROMISE YOU THAT. AND PLEASE THANK YOUR WIFE FOR JOINING US.

I WILL. I YES, WE ARE TRULY ENJOYING RETIREMENT, BUT I REALLY THINK THIS IS A SERVICE THAT WILL GIVE ME PERSONAL SATISFACTION AS WELL AS ASSISTING THE COMMUNITY, THE COUNCIL AND THE ORGANIZATION.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

SO, GENTLEMEN, I'VE GOT A MOTION BY THE DEPUTY MAYOR AND THE SECOND BY YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

BUT PART OF THAT MOTION.

MISS TERRY, DOES IT HAVE TO INCLUDE THE DATE FOR THAT MEETING? THAT SPECIAL MEETING REGARDING THE CONTRACT.

THERE'S COUNCIL CONSENSUS IS FINE FOR THE DATE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

I KNOW THAT WE HAD PROPOSED DECEMBER 11TH, WHICH IS WEDNESDAY.

BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALSO A MENTION OF PRIOR TO THE WORKSHOP ON THE 17TH AND ALSO THE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING ON THE 19TH, I THINK NEGOTIATION WISE, I THINK I'M AVAILABLE FOR THE 11TH.

I'D LIKE TO SEE IF WE COULD THAT THAT WOULD BE MY MY FEEDBACK TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE THAT WAY I KNOW THAT IT WOULD HELP LAURA, WITH HUMAN RESOURCES GETTING HIM ON BOARD AND SUCH THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? WE SHOULD CALL THE VOTE FIRST.

I'M JUST. I'M JUST GETTING THAT CONSENSUS HERE.

YEAH, WELL, OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION, SO.

WELL, WE DIDN'T NEED TO TO ADD IT ON THERE.

YEAH. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO.

AND NOW THE CONSENSUS, MA'AM, IS DECEMBER 11TH.

FOR THAT WEDNESDAY.

AND WE'RE ALL GOOD, RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO NOW WE'RE BACK ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

FIRST SPEAKER IS OLIVIA CORRAL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD NIGHT.

MOON. I WAS ON THIS BILL.

I WAS HERE BEFORE. RIGHT.

DO YOU REMEMBER ME, REPUBLIC? I KNOW, YES, MA'AM.

WE REMEMBER. I KNOW THAT I VOTED FOR THESE THREE GUYS.

OLIVIA. YES.

NOW I HAVE A PROBLEM.

WE HAD OUR ROADS DONE.

AND THE FIRST MONDAY THAT THE GARBAGE COMPANY COMES IN TO GET OUR GARBAGE HAS DROPPED.

GARBAGE ALL OVER OUR ROADS.

I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK.

MAY I BRING THIS? YEAH. BRING IT. BRING IT FORWARD AND I'LL PASS IT ON.

THANK YOU. YEAH.

SEE, THIS IS. THIS IS HAPPENING MORE AND MORE.

PASS THAT DOWN AND THEN I'LL GIVE IT TO MY COMMUNITY.

IS SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING TO CLEAN UP THEIR GARBAGE.

IT ISN'T OUR GARBAGE THAT IS COMING OUT OF THAT GARBAGE CAN.

GARBAGE TRUCK.

IT'S OTHER PEOPLE'S GARBAGE.

REPUBLIC SERVICE HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOUR TIMES A MONTH.

WE DON'T GET A BREAK.

MY COMMUNITY HAS TO GO OUT AND CLEAN UP THE GARBAGE THAT THEY TOOK.

THEY COME IN THERE AND THEY PICK UP OUR GARBAGE, AND THEN WE GOT TO CLEAN THEIR GARBAGE.

AND I'M TIRED OF IT.

AND MY COMMUNITY IS TIRED OF IT.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? HAVE YOU GOT AN ANSWER FOR ME? IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THAT COMPANY, BECAUSE IT'S MY COMMUNITY AND MY PEOPLE THAT ARE UP THERE HAVING TO PICK IT UP ALL THE TIME.

THEY'RE TIRED OF IT.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HELP ME, OR DO I HAVE TO GO HIGHER THAN YOU? I CANNOT TAKE IT ANYMORE FROM THAT COMPANY.

IT IS JUST DESTROYING AND THE HAPPINESS OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE.

I GOT 130 HOMES IN THERE AND EVERY ONE OF THEM ARE DISGUSTED.

AND I GET THE BLAME.

I GET THE CALLS, I GET THEM.

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?

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WE HAVE GLASS.

I BROUGHT YOU THE THE THING OF GLASS, DIDN'T I? AND I GAVE IT TO YOU TO SEE.

IT'S NOT FAIR FOR MY COMMUNITY HAVE TO GOING THROUGH THIS AND THIS PAST WEEK IT WENT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WITH ALL THIS WHITE STUFF RIGHT ACROSS TO BERMUDA WALK AND SPREAD IT ALL OVER THERE, TOO.

SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO? I WANT AN ANSWER.

IF I CAN'T GET AN ANSWER FROM YOU, THEN I WANT TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THAT COMPANY.

OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE IT, I WANT TO BE THERE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

WE'LL WE'LL GET WE'LL HAVE CITY MANAGER RESPOND.

BUT MOREOVER, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, MA'AM.

YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP AND I DON'T WANT TO.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

DO. IS IT THE TRUCK THAT PICKS UP THE WASTE, OR IS IT THE RECYCLE TRUCK? IT'S BOTH.

THEY'RE BOTH DOING IT.

BOTH OF THEM. OKAY.

YES. OKAY. AND I'VE GOT PEOPLE FROM MY COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE.

WE HAVE HER ADDRESS.

I KNOW THAT SHE CAME, I THINK, TWO WEEKS AGO.

RIGHT. AND SHE SHARED THIS.

HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO REPUBLIC? WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? MA'AM, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT, BUT I JUST WANT.

MA'AM, YOUR THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

OKAY, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.

DO WE HAVE. MA'AM? MA'AM? MA'AM, I KNOW YOU'RE UPSET.

I FEEL YOUR FRUSTRATION.

BUT, MA'AM, YOU HAVE TO ACT ACCORDINGLY IN THESE PROCEEDINGS.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND, MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION.

BUT YOU DO HAVE TO BEHAVE ACCORDINGLY IN THESE PROCEEDINGS.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A RESPONSE FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. VALENTINO VALENTINO, TO RESPOND? OKAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

WE ARE IN COMMUNICATION AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC, AS WE KNOW, IN PAST MEETINGS.

THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH GLASS.

AS YOU KNOW, SCOTT MORAN, WHO LEADS THE CHARGE AT REPUBLIC, HAS BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE.

WE'VE MET ON SITE, ESPECIALLY EVEN WITH MR. STEIN. SO THEY'VE BEEN RESPONSIVE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE THE CONCERN.

I CAN SPEAK WITH A RESIDENT HERE TONIGHT FOR A LITTLE BIT AND LET HER KNOW WHAT THE INITIATIVES ARE TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE, BUT IT'S, IT'S IT'S THE CONVERSATIONS ARE HAPPENING WITH THEM OF THE EXPECTATIONS THAT, THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, THE TRASH PICKUP.

YEAH. AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT CAME UP THE LAST TIME WAS THIS OUR CONTRACT.

WE WE STILL HAVE.

WHAT DO WE HAVE? SIX YEARS LEFT ON THIS CONTRACT.

THAT'S CORRECT. APPROXIMATELY SIX YEARS.

PART OF THAT DISCUSSION IS THEY ARE DAMAGING OUR OUR NEWLY PAVED ROADS.

SO THAT HAS GOT TO BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

AT THE SAME TIME, HAVE THEY DISCLOSED WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE TRUCKS THAT ARE RELEASING ALL THE ALL THE DEBRIS? THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MAYOR, BECAUSE IN LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT, WE FOUND THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO INSPECT THE TRUCKS.

AND WE STARTED TO DO THAT WITH THE LEADERSHIP IN MY OFFICE OF MY CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER.

SO WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS, HIGHLIGHTING TO THE COMPANY THAT THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO WE'RE IN THAT PROCESS OF HIGHLIGHTING THAT TO THE COMPANY.

AND AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, THIS IS ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HIGHLIGHTING OF WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING THEM TO DO AS THEY PICK UP THE GARBAGE IN OUR CITY.

SO I NEED SOMEHOW IF WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY IN THAT CONTRACT, RIGHT, TO INSPECT THOSE TRUCKS.

DO WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY YOU CAN'T USE THAT TRUCK IF WE SEE A DAMAGED TRUCK? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT NOW, MAYOR, BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO IT.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THIS WITH REPUBLIC.

AND THE CONVERSATIONS NOW ARE MORE A SERIOUS MATTER.

NOT THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN, BUT LIKE LATELY, WE'VE BEEN HEARING THIS A LOT.

THERE WAS A TIME THERE WHERE THINGS WERE, AS YOU KNOW, IT WAS BAD, AND THEN IT GOT REALLY GOOD.

AND THE SERVICES ARE THERE.

IT IS A LARGE CITY FOR PICKUP, AND I KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE EFFORTS.

I'VE MET SOME OF THE DRIVERS MYSELF.

I'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THEM.

SO I SEE THAT THEIR THEIR CONCERN WITH PROVIDING US THE SERVICES, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE PERFECT.

I THINK WE CAN ALL EXPECT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THROUGH THESE COMMENTS THAT THEY'RE HEARING, I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE.

BECAUSE I'VE TOLD THEM I NEED YOU GUYS HERE IN OUR MEETING SO YOU CAN HEAR THE CONCERNS OF OUR RESIDENTS, SO WE CAN THEN DO WHATEVER ENFORCEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO WITH THE

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YEAH. I'D LIKE TO TO SEE HOW WE COULD PUT THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE, SO TO SPEAK, REGARDING THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ONLY AFFECTING ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'RE NOTICING IT'S AFFECTING SEVERAL OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO WE GOT TO HONE IN ON WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

IF THEY'VE GOT TRUCKS THAT ARE DAMAGED, THEN THOSE TRUCKS SHOULDN'T BE OUT THERE UNTIL THEY'RE FULLY REPAIRED.

YEAH. THAT'S FOR ME.

THAT'S THE QUICKEST SOLUTION.

RIGHT. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS A CONCERTED EFFORT.

MR. MANAGER IN THIS REGARD THE INSPECTIONS AND TO PERHAPS IF WE HAVE THAT AUTHORITY IN THE CONTRACT, SAY, OKAY, YOU GUYS CAN'T USE THESE TRUCKS UNTIL THEY'RE FULLY REPAIRED, RIGHT? I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE EASY.

I DON'T KNOW. I HAVEN'T READ THE CONTRACT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT CERTAINLY WE THEY THEY MUST KNOW THAT WE'RE SERIOUS.

RIGHT. THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

THEN MOREOVER, I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL LEADERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE MR. STICE AND LIKE MISS OLIVIA, THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THAT DIALOG OF COMMUNICATION OPEN, TO LET THEM KNOW THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT AND THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THE RESPONSE? BECAUSE I THINK COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH ENOUGH OOMPH TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS SERIOUS WITHIN OUR CITY.

SO IF THAT'S OKAY, MR. ROBINSON I LIKE TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD AND STAYING IN TOUCH WITH MISS OLIVIA.

AND I BELIEVE MR. STICE ALSO BROUGHT THIS UP WITHIN HIS OWN SUBDIVISION AS WELL.

YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE RESIDENT IF SHE HAS ANY.

GIVE HER YOUR CARD. SO THAT WAY SHE'S GOT DIRECT ACCESS TO YOU TWO AS WELL.

MAYOR, CAN I ADD TO THAT? BECAUSE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT SHOULD BE PUBLIC SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENTS.

Y'ALL HAVE Y'ALL'S PLATE FULL AND WE SHOULD BE COMMUNICATING, BUT THEY ARE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO ALL OF THE CITY.

THEY SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENTS DIRECTLY AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THAT'S MY TAKE BECAUSE I KNOW YOU, MAYOR AND THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL, WE WILL GET A LOT OF THE EMAILS ABOUT REPUBLIC SERVICES, AND IT'S LIKE WE HAVE TO BE THE MIDDLEMAN FOR THE COMPANY. WE ARE, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN IT'S THEIR DUTY, IT'S THEIR JOB.

WE'RE THE OVERSEERS, BUT IT'S THEIR DUTY TO ALSO PERFORM THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR THEM TO DO.

SO I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, MAYOR.

I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

BUT HERE, HERE LIES THE FRUSTRATION.

THE FRUSTRATION IS NOT THEM.

SO MUCH NOW WITH REPUBLIC ANYMORE.

THE FRUSTRATIONS ARE WITH THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS REGARDING REPUBLIC.

RIGHT. THAT CONTRACT.

SO PERHAPS THAT DIALOG THAT YOU HAVE WITH REPUBLIC, THAT COMMUNICATION SHOULD BE PASSED ON TO THEM AND WE WILL DEFINITELY THANK YOU.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

YES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR PROCUREMENT OR FOR FOR CITY ATTORNEY.

IS THERE AN ANNUAL EVALUATION THAT WE DO PER THE CONTRACT? BECAUSE I KNOW ON THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE OVER TWO YEARS, WE USUALLY GIVE AN ANNUAL REVIEW.

IS THAT IN THIS CONTRACT OR IS IT SOMETHING EVERY FOUR YEARS? ARE YOU GOING TO CALL UP MR. BARBER? MR. BARBER? YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING.

YES. WE DO A VENDOR PERFORMANCE SURVEY, SO ANNUALLY.

I HAVE TO CHECK.

IF IT'S OKAY, I'LL EMAIL BACK WHAT REPUBLIC HAS ON FILE.

BUT WE DO WANT ANNUALLY FOR EVERY CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.

OKAY, YOU HAVE MY CARD.

IF YOU CAN. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE SEND ME ANY PICTURES YOU GET, PLEASE.

AND I CAN SUBMIT THEM TO OUR CITY MANAGER.

YES, MA'AM. AND ANYBODY ELSE? MA'AM? MA'AM, WE CAN'T HAVE THIS DIALOG.

WE CAN'T. WE CAN'T HAVE THIS DIALOG.

THANK YOU. VALENTINO.

JUST THANK YOU, BROTHER.

NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT SPEAKER IS ALAN CORAL.

WELL, NOW THAT YOU ARE ALL WOUND UP, I GOT A PROBLEM HERE.

THIS IS YOUR SAMPLE.

WELCOME TO CITY COUNCIL.

THIS WAS PICKED UP IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

GO AHEAD AND SPEAK ON. ALAN.

CORAL. SANDY PINES.

THERE'S OTHER COMMUNITIES INVOLVED.

MAYOR. ONE AND TWO.

THREE AND FOUR.

BERMUDA WALK, BERMUDA WALK.

BABCOCK GOING EAST ON PORT MALABAR.

THE STREETS ON THE SOUTH SIDE ARE SERVICED BY THESE TRUCKS.

THEY'RE DOING NOTHING TO THEM BECAUSE I FOLLOW THE TRAIL.

HYDRAULIC OIL.

YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR FIX IS? ADD MORE OIL.

DON'T REPAIR THE HOSE OR THE LEAK ON THE HYDRAULICS.

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PEOPLE ARE SAYING YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU ENTER PALM BAY.

THE SMELL AND THE MARKS ON THE GROUND FROM THE GARBAGE TRUCKS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WERE LEFT.

I KNOW WHAT A PRIOR HAS LEFT YOU.

YOU GOT THE POWER AND YOU CAN GET AHOLD OF IT.

YOU CAN DO IT LEGALLY.

YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT CONTRACT AND HOLD THESE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

THEY COME IN HERE AND THEY'RE RUNNING A SHODDY OPERATION.

YOU SUBSIDIZED THEM THE COMMUNITY BY A CONTRACT.

SIGNIFICANT RAISES SO THAT THEY COULD RUN THEIR BUSINESS.

BUT THEY'RE SHITTING ALL OVER US.

AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

THIS COUNCIL, NEW MEMBERS THAT'S OFF THE STREET THIS MORNING.

CARS THAT GO OVER THAT GO ON 95.

THEY CUT A TIRE ON THAT ROAD AT 75.

YOU'RE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH.

GLASS, NAILS, ROOFING MATERIAL.

GOD KNOWS WHAT PEOPLE THROW IN THEIR GARBAGE, BUT IT'S ENDING UP IN THAT WHOLE BLOCK THERE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THOSE TRUCKS GO, BUT THEY'RE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN DO A LOT, MAYOR.

USE OF POWER.

MY FRIEND DONALD TRUMP IS IN THE SAME PROBLEM YOU'RE IN WITH JOE BIDEN.

YOU CAN FIX IT.

SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS A CITY MANAGEMENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT.

I'M ONE OF FIVE INDIVIDUALS WE COLLECTIVELY THERE'S THERE'S NO EXECUTIVE POWER UP HERE, SIR.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NO. NEXT SPEAKER IS JERRY FULLER.

MAY SURPRISE YOU, BUT I'M ALSO OVER 70.

WHEN THEY MADE THE CHANGE FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT TO REPUBLIC, I WAS A LITTLE MYSTIFIED BY WHAT THE REASONING WAS, BECAUSE I.

I WAS SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE WE WERE GETTING, AND THEY WEREN'T SCATTERING GARBAGE ON OUR STREETS.

I JUST FOUND OUT THAT ALTHOUGH REPUBLIC HAS NEW TRUCKS, THE CONTAINERS THAT THE GARBAGE GOES INTO THAT'S RECYCLED FROM OLD TRUCKS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHATEVER HOLES WERE IN IT OR STILL IN THEM, APPARENTLY FROM PREVIOUS USAGE.

ANOTHER POINT THAT'S MINOR IS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO PUT THE GARBAGE CANS ON THE CURB.

I FEEL THAT WHEN THE TRUCK HAS EMPTIED THE GARBAGE OUT OF THE CAN, IT SHOULD BE PLACED BACK ON THE CURB, NOT OUT IN THE STREET WHERE SOMEBODY COULD RUN INTO IT OR DAMAGE IT.

I AM PARTICULAR THOSE OF US THAT STILL HAVE THE WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTAINERS.

WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY RENT FOR THE CONTAINER.

IF YOU HAVE A REPUBLIC CONTAINER, YOU PAY RENT FOR THAT.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO START PAYING RENT BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING TOO ROUGH WITH THE CONTAINERS AND NOT PUTTING THEM BACK ON THE CURB, WHETHER IT BE SAFE.

SO I FEEL LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH COMPLAINTS SO THAT.

THE CONTRACT SHOULD BE REVIEWED.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

AND I HOPE THAT HAPPENS AND THAT THEY EITHER CORRECT THE PROBLEMS WITH THE CONTAINERS OR WE FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO COLLECT OUR GARBAGE. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE YOU CALL UP THE NEXT SPEAKER, THIS COUNCIL HAVE AN APPETITE TO HAVE A WORKSHOP WITH REPUBLIC.

JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THAT.

WE DID IT BEFORE.

I KNOW, AND WE.

AND IT WORKED.

YEAH, LIKE ONE OF THE CITIZENS SAID HE CALMED DOWN FROM IT.

YEAH. YEAH. AND SO ARE WE.

ARE WE UP TO THAT POINT WHERE WE.

YOU KNOW WHAT? YEAH. WHY NOT? YEAH. WHY NOT? YEAH. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

YEAH, I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BRING IT UP IN COUNCIL REPORTS IF YOU IF YOU DIDN'T BRING IT UP HERE.

SO. YEP.

WE'RE GOOD. YEAH ONE I AGREE.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE AND THEN PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT OVER AND SEE WHAT HOW WE COULD WHAT KIND OF TEETH DO WE HAVE TO TO HELP ALONG IN THIS PROCESS AND EXPEDITE

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NOW WE'RE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, GENTLEMEN.

AND AND SO PERHAPS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN COME IN AND LIKE YOU SAID.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON THEY COULD ACTUALLY HAVE THAT DIALOG AS WELL, AND THEY COULD RESPOND TO THAT.

SO IF WE COULD SET THAT UP, I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE IN JANUARY.

BUT AT LEAST WE GOT THAT ON TARGET.

AND I'M LOOKING AT MR. MORGAN BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT PERHAPS IN JANUARY.

ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

SO I THINK WE GOT CONSENSUS ON THAT NEXT SPEAKER, SIR.

NEXT SPEAKER ROBERT STICE.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. WE DID DO IT.

YEAH. GOOD EVENING.

ROBERT SCHNEIDER, 1796 WYNBERG DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT SLIDE HERE OR SLANT ON THIS.

I MET WITH ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.

SCOTT MORAN, WHO'S A CUSTOMER, CITY MANAGER, AND I REQUESTED TO MEET WITH I'M SORRY, SCOTT MORAN.

I WAS REFERRING TO DENNIS HUNT.

I WAS REQUESTED TO MEET IN PERSON WITH SCOTT MORAN.

SCOTT MORAN IS THE DISTRICT OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR REPUBLIC.

AND THE REASON WHY I WANTED TO MEET WITH HIM IS BECAUSE I WAS AT DISTRICT OPERATIONS MANAGER FOR FIVE YEARS IN COLORADO, SO I KNEW THE GAME.

I KNOW THE TRUCKS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS IN TIME, MR. MAYOR, BUT YOU RECALL THAT I HAD ALL OF THESE BIG OIL LEAKS, SO WE HAD OIL LEAKS AND HYDRAULIC LEAKS.

AFTER THE MEETING, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT THE ROOT CAUSE IS.

BUT AFTER THE MEETING, HIM AND HIS SUPERVISOR ASKED IF THEY COULD WALK MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE DID. WE SPENT OVER AN HOUR.

HE LOOKED AT THE THE SPOTS WHERE THE GUY WOULD TAKE HIS BREAK OR HE WOULD CLOSE HIS ROUTE OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT, WE GOT OUT OF MY WE GOT TO THEY WERE FOLLOWING ME IN MY TRUCK AND WE GOT OUT AND WALKED AREAS THAT YOU COULD SEE WHERE EVERY TRASH CAN WAS.

YOU COULD SEE THE LEAKAGE ALL THROUGH THAT.

CURRENTLY HE'S GOT AS OF A WEEK AGO, A COMPANY CALLED OPG, ONE THAT'S TREATING ALL OF THESE OIL LEAKS.

NOW THEY'RE COMING OUT ONCE A WEEK.

AND THEY YOU KNOW, HE IS FOLLOWING UP ON THAT.

THEY'RE DOING DUE DILIGENCE.

I WILL TELL YOU THE SITUATION.

WHAT HAPPENS, MR. MAYOR? BASICALLY, IF YOU HAVE TRASH COMING OUT OF THE TRUCK, THEY SHOULD HAVE WENT TO THE LANDFILL.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THESE OTHER CONTAINERS IN SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A SECOND TRIP BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S EXPENSIVE.

SCOTT MORAN. SCOTT PALM BAY AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S VIERA OR VIERA THAT HE HAS, HE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ABOUT 4 TO 6 SUPERVISORS WORKING IN THERE.

SUPERVISORS SHOULD BE DOING OBSERVATIONS OKAY, ON THESE TRUCKS.

WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF AN OIL LEAK, THE ROOT CAUSE TYPICALLY IS THE DRIVER DOESN'T WANT TO GET OUT OF HIS TRUCK.

HE COULD WRITE IT UP OKAY.

HE MAY NOT HAND IN THE WORK ORDER BECAUSE IN THE MORNING YOU HAVE TO DO A PRE-TRIP.

YOU GO THROUGH EVERYTHING ON THE TRUCK, YOU CHECK EVERYTHING, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU DO A POST TRIP.

NOW, IF THE SUPERVISOR HAS TIME, HE SHOULD BE LOOKING OR SPOT CHECKING THIS.

DID YOU WRITE UP THE CYLINDERS THAT ARE LEAKING OIL? YOU GOT A TRANNY LEAK. YOU GOT AN ENGINE LEAK, WHAT HAVE YOU.

I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH NOT STAFFED ACCORDINGLY.

I KNOW THAT DENNIS HAS A DENNIS FUND, HAS A REQUEST FOR TWO MORE CLERKS BECAUSE THEY WANT ALL THE CALLS TO GO TO PALM BAY OFFICE. BUT WHAT I POSTED TODAY ON MY BOARD WAS THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, I PUT DENNIS'S NUMBER ON THERE.

BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW, SCOTT MORAN'S NUMBER IS (813) 520-7620.

NOW I GIVE THESE GUYS KUDOS BECAUSE THEY CAME RIGHT UP AND AND WE WALKED THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I SAID, IF HE'S LOOKING TO TRUCK HERE, HIS NEXT STOP, YOU HAVE THAT SAME PROBLEM.

SO I UNDERSTOOD WHERE HE WAS COMING FROM BECAUSE I HAD A LIMIT.

I KNOW GUYS DON'T WANT TO GET OUT OF THEIR TRUCKS BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO MESS SOMETHING UP, AND THEY'RE USED TO IT.

THE GUY WHO WAS SITTING ON ON THE END OF GARDEN BROOK AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WINBROOK, WAS TAKING A BREAK OR CLOSING OUT OF HIS ROUTE, AND I SAID, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY IN HERE DOING THIS. BUT AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, CONTAINERS GOING ON OR TRASH GOING ON IN THE STREET.

TRUCKS ARE OVERLOADED AND THEY ARE NEW TRUCKS.

AND HE SAYS HE HAS A GOOD A GOOD CREW OF MECHANICS.

SO IT'S A FIXABLE PROBLEM.

BUT YOU GOT TO GET IN THERE AND TALK TO HIM.

BECAUSE WHEN I DID HIM WITH DENNIS, WE HAD A GOOD MEETING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST FIRST.

I'M ALSO OVER 70 YEARS OLD TO THE.

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THE GANG THAT'S MAKING THE NEWS RIGHT NOW.

BUT DO WE HAVE THAT GANG HERE IN PALM BAY? IT'S JUST MY SPANISH WOULDN'T EVEN LET ME TRY.

BUT I DID SEE THAT FLORIDA WAS ON THAT LIST FOR THIS GANG GANG ACTIVITY THAT WAS HAPPENING.

ARE WE HAVING IT HERE IN PALM BAY? THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE.

QUESTION NUMBER TWO WAS UNDER THE $100,000 GRANT FOR THE STUDY OF THE COMPOUND.

I HAD THREE ITEMS I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ON THAT.

THE FIRST ITEM WAS WHEN I WAS READING THE REPORTS.

IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE FOCUSING IN ON UNIT 53 WITHIN THE COMPOUND, WHICH I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S RIGHT ALONG, BOMBARDIER.

BUT LET'S LOOK A LITTLE BIT BROADER IN THAT IF YOU CAN, WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE DOING THAT LOOK, BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER FUNCTIONS OUT THERE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.

RIGHT. I.E. IS THE BMX CORPORATION.

ARE THEY BEING INVOLVED IN THIS MEETINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THIS STAKEHOLDERS? RIGHT. AND THE LAST ITEM IS A HISTORY LESSON, BECAUSE SOME OF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE COMPOUND. AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF, YOU KNOW, AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER, THERE WAS A JUNKYARD BEING PROPOSED IN THE COMPOUND, AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT A LOT OF THE SITUATIONS THAT PUT LIGHT ON IT, WHERE WE NOW CONSTANTLY HEAR TRANSPARENCY.

IT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE HAVE THE THING OF WHERE INDIVIDUALS WENT TO PRISON, AND THAT WAS FOR THE COMPOUND WHERE THEY WERE TRYING TO BRING BUSINESS AND ESTABLISHMENT INTO THE COMPOUND.

SO I WANT PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT IT SOUNDS GREAT SOMETIMES, BUT YOU CAN ALSO HAVE THE SHADY SIDE OF DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU HAVE LAND AVAILABLE. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

IF WE WANT TO STAY, IF WE WANT TO STAY TRANSPARENT, LET'S DON'T FORGET THE PAST, BECAUSE SOME OF THE NAMES THAT ENDED UP THERE IN PRISON, SOME OF THOSE NAMES ARE NOW BEING TALKED ABOUT AROUND HERE RIGHT NOW.

SO JUST KEEP THAT IN YOUR MIND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING BACK AT THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE ENDED UP TODAY.

THANK YOU. MR. BENTON. I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE THE NAME OF THE GANG THAT YOU REFERENCED.

IS IT THAT VENEZUELAN GANG? SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. THE NAME OF THE GANG THAT YOU HAVEN'T A PROBLEM PRONOUNCING.

IS IT TREN DE AGUA? YES. IT'S THE VENEZUELAN GANG THAT HAS TAKEN OVER APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

AND I THINK IT'S COLORADO.

CORRECT. OKAY. I COULDN'T PRONOUNCE IT, AND I WASN'T GOING TO EMBARRASS SOMEBODY.

AT LEAST. AT LEAST WE CAN ASK IF IT EXISTS IN OUR CITY.

RIGHT. BECAUSE IT IS SHOWING UP IN.

IN FLORIDA. THANK YOU.

TREN DE ARAGUA OR THE ARAGUA? YES. DID YOU WANT TO BRING UP THE CHIEF TO ASK IF THERE'S ANY INDICATION? SURE. COME ON.

COME ON UP, CHIEF. BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A HUGE CONCERN, WOULDN'T IT? SO, TREN DE ARAGUA, CORRECT? YES. THEY ARE NOT ON OUR RADAR IN THE CITY.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

YEP. APPRECIATE IT.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS KEN MORROW.

GOOD EVENING. KEN MORROW, 128 HURST ROAD IN PALM BAY.

I CAME TONIGHT TO ADDRESS A CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC COMING DOWN ON NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS AS PART OF THE PARENT LOOP FOR PINEAPPLE COVE.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE NUMEROUS TIMES, BUT THE PROBLEM STILL EXISTS.

THE SCHOOL HAS STAGGERED RELEASE TIMES, WHICH STOPPED SOME OF THE CONGESTION, BUT NOW WE EXPERIENCED TRAFFIC FOR OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF INSTEAD OF THE 20 MINUTES. ONE PROBLEM FIXED, ANOTHER ONE OCCURS.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS ARE VERY NARROW WITH NO SIDEWALKS, BIKE LANES, AND WE LITERALLY HAVE TO WALK ON THE EDGES OF THE ROAD.

PART OF THE LOOP IS ON HURST ROAD, AND IT HAS A SECTION THAT'S OVER A HALF A MILE OF STRAIGHTAWAY THAT GIVES THE VEHICLES AMPLE TIME TO SPEED, EVEN AT THE CURRENT LIMIT OF 30 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH WE KNOW IS NOT ALWAYS FOLLOWED.

IT'S NOT REASONABLE FOR A SPEED FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT HAS CONSTANT TRAFFIC.

IT'S MADE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC.

WE OFFERED SOME ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS, SUCH AS KEEP THE PARENT SCHOOL LOOP ON SCHOOL PROPERTY OR CITY PROPERTY.

SHORTEN THE SCHOOL LOOP SO CARS DON'T COME ALL THE WAY DOWN HEARST ROAD.

ONLY AFFECT ABOUT A QUARTER OF THE HOMES IN THE CURRENT PATH.

UTILIZE DIFFERENT ROADS THAT HAVE SHORTER DISTANCES BETWEEN STOPS AND TURNS TO KEEP TRAFFIC AT A SPEED AT A MINIMUM, THE SAME AS IT IS FOR LOCHMOOR SCHOOLS.

LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT FOR THE ENTIRE LOOP FROM 30 MILES AN HOUR TO 20 OR 25 DURING SCHOOL HOURS OR DURING SCHOOL RELEASE TIMES.

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STOPS THEM FROM SPEEDING DOWN THE ROAD.

THERE ARE SOLUTIONS, BUT SO FAR NOTHING'S BEEN ACTED ON.

I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES OUR CONCERNS ARE ONLY TALKED ABOUT IN THESE MEETINGS.

AND WHEN WE LEAVE, THEY'RE FORGOTTEN.

NOBODY DOES ANYTHING AFTERWARDS.

IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A FEW YEARS, SO PLEASE, PLEASE ACT ON THIS.

DON'T LET IT CONTINUE.

WE JUST WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE THE WAY IT WAS WHEN WE MOVED HERE.

PEACEFUL AND QUIET, WITHOUT CARS ZOOMING BY OUR HOMES.

AND I KNOW YOU WOULDN'T WANT THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO MY QUESTION IS, WILL YOU ACT ON IT AND DO SOMETHING, PLEASE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. ROBINSON, I KNOW THAT WE'VE WORKED THIS ISSUE.

I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROGRESS.

WHO IN A WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT ONCE TOOK THE LEADERSHIP IN THAT CAPACITY.

WHO ON STAFF WOULD YOU WANT TO CALL UP TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? I'LL HAVE OUR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, MR. PEREZ. VALENTINA, AS YOU HEARD, THERE MAY BE SOME OPTIONS HERE ADDING STOP SIGNS AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE DONE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CORRIDOR.

ARE YOU ABLE TO SPEAK ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD? WHAT I CAN DO, MAYOR, AND I APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS OUTSIDE WITH MISS OLIVIA.

SO I'M TRYING TO CATCH UP HERE RECUPERATING.

I WILL SAY THAT ALTHOUGH WE DON'T HAVE OUR CITY ENGINEER ANYMORE, AS AS YOU GUYS KNOW WE HAVE ONBOARDED OUR CONSULTANTS FOR TRAFFIC.

FOR TRAFFIC. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN REVISIT AGAIN, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA.

SO I CAN BE COMMITTED TO THAT, IF YOU LIKE.

MAYOR. AND I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ONCE.

WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THIS WITH OUR CONSULTANTS.

AND I THINK IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK WITH THIS YOUNG MAN BECAUSE HE'S HE'S THROWING IN SOME SOME NEW ALTERNATIVES, RIGHT? AND I ALSO REMEMBER THAT WE DID PUT IN SOME CROSSWALKS AND DID SOME SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS AND STUFF.

SO I WANTED TO SEE IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THOSE THINGS.

ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO THAT? I CAN REACH OUT PERSONALLY TO THE TO THE RESIDENT, AND I CAN GIVE THEM EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE.

OKAY. AND UPDATE THEM.

SO WHERE WE'RE AT, SIR, CAN YOU HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH HIM? THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU.

CARRY ON. NEXT SPEAKER IS PASTOR DELGADO.

THAT WAS SENIOR PASTOR.

I'M SORRY, BUT YOU'RE NOT SEEING YOUR PASTOR BECAUSE YOU'RE 70 YEARS OLD, SIR.

LET'S CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE SENIOR PASTOR BECAUSE YOU'RE THE LEAD PASTOR.

KENT DELGADO, 154 ANGELO ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

LISTEN, CPR HAS TWO DEFINITIONS.

CARDIOPULMONARY RESUSCITATION, SOLICITATION WHICH GIVES LIFE.

I ALSO LIKE TO SAY COMMUNICATION BRINGS PARTNERSHIP AND DEVELOPS RELATIONSHIP CPR.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF RELATIONSHIP AND PARTNERSHIP GOING ON.

AND IT ALL COMES FROM COMMUNICATION.

SO AS AS COMMUNICATION IS SO IMPORTANT.

I'D LIKE TO TOUCH ON ON THE CITY MANAGER THAT WAS LET GO SHERMAN AND JUST AS, AS IT HIT ME I NEED COMMUNICATION FOR AN EXAMPLE.

I KNOW THEY SAY YOU FIRE THE COACH.

WELL, WELL, ACTUALLY, THE COACHES ARE ARE, AS IT WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, ARE U5, U5 ARE THE COACHES, AND WE APPARENTLY FIRED SOME COACHES AND WE GOT SOME OTHER COACHES ON SHE CAME IN AFTER 2020 WITH PROBLEMS ON THE CITY, AND SHE SHE TOOK IT FROM THERE TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM NO ONE'S COMMUNICATED REALLY TO THE PEOPLE WHAT THE PROBLEM REALLY WAS.

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO.

THE THE REALITY THAT THAT AS AS BATTEN HAD MENTIONED, THERE'S A COST.

THERE'S A COST TO FIRING NOT JUST A COST, BUT THE SHAKING OF NO LEADERSHIP THAT WAS ONGOING WHEN WE COULD HAVE SAID, OKAY, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

YOU PRESENT THE PROBLEM, YOU COMMUNICATE THE PROBLEM.

THEREFORE, WE NEED A NEW CITY MANAGER.

OKAY, THEN PEOPLE ARE PREPARED, AND YOU CAN WORK THINGS IN ORDER VERSUS JUST.

YOU'RE OUT. CREATE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT CREATED IN THE CITY TO ALL OF A SUDDEN LOSE THE CITY MANAGER.

AND NOW WE HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE TO REPLACE AND MORE WORK FOR THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY WORKING.

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AND PRAISE GOD FOR MORGAN.

AND I'M SO HAPPY THAT FIVE OF YOU AGREE ON IT.

BUT THE YOU KNOW THE COST TO THAT.

WHAT WAS THE COST? DID WE REALLY SAVE MONEY OR DID WE ACTUALLY SPEND MONEY AS CONSERVATIVES? DID WE SPEND MONEY ON A PROBLEM THAT WE DIDN'T NEED TO SPEND AT THIS MOMENT? COULD IT HAVE BEEN DONE A LITTLE SOONER? ANOTHER POINT WOULD BE THE MORALE.

WHEN I WORKED FOR WINN-DIXIE AS A ASSISTANT MANAGER AT WINN-DIXIE, THEY TOOK AWAY THE FREE TURKEY THAT GAVE ALL OF THE THE THE EMPLOYEES, AND THEY SAVED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.

BUT THE MORALE DUMPED, AND THEY PAID IT IN, IN LACK OF PRODUCTIVITY BECAUSE PEOPLE THE EMPLOYEES BEGAN TO THINK THEY DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MORALE.

AND SO THERE'S JUST SO MANY COMMUNICATION QUESTIONS THAT YOU BE NICE.

IF YOU COULD FILL IN THE INFORMATION SO THAT WE COULD BE INFORMED ON HOW ALL THAT WENT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS PAT DALPRA.

PAT. OKAY.

I'M NOT GIVING MY AGE.

PAT. DALPRA 14 GEORGE'S AVENUE.

PALM BAY HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GOOD THANKSGIVING.

AND IT'S PASTOR KENNY BROUGHT ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

WE TALKED ABOUT PEACE.

PEOPLE IN PALM BAY WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE.

I WAS HERE LAST NIGHT AND I HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINING.

IT WAS VERY HEARTBREAKING.

AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN DIRT FLOODING PILES OF DIRT THAT ARE 30FT HIGH.

SO WHAT I WANT TO BRING AS A CONCERN, NOT JUST ONE PARTICULAR AREA OF PALM BAY, BUT BUILDERS AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES. WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE THE CITY GIVES THEM A PRIVILEGE TO BUILD IN THIS CITY, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THEY ARE NOT RESPECTING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY HERE.

WHEN YOU TOTALLY WIPE OUT ALL THE TREES AND ALL THE WILDLIFE, WHEN YOU GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THEIR BOUNDARIES, WHEN EVERYTHING IS WIPED OUT, AND THEN YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW THAT THE WHOLE PROCESS IS TAKING PLACE.

IT REALLY IS DISTURBING.

AND THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GONE THROUGH IT FOR AT LEAST 2 TO 3 YEARS.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THESE PROBLEMS BEFORE.

SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THE CITY, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IN PARTICULAR GOING TO GET IT TOGETHER AND KEEP UP WITH THE BUILDERS? IT SEEMS LIKE THEY DON'T.

AND ALL THESE PROBLEMS JUST BUILD AND BUILD AND BUILD.

AND THEN YOU HEAR ALL THE COMPLAINTS WHEN THINGS AREN'T DONE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BE MORE INVOLVED, CODE ENFORCEMENT, WHEREVER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.

AND LET'S GET THIS NONSENSE OF BUILDING HIGHER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER IN PALM BAY BECAUSE IT'S CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS THAN HELPING.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THE DEVELOPMENT'S, IT'S INDIVIDUAL HOMES.

AND I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE.

SO WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THESE BUILDERS AND RESPECT FOR THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE.

TRAVELED AROUND PALM BAY, BUT WE HAVE QUITE A FEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES GOING UP OFF OF ROUTE ONE ACROSS FROM THE SHACK.

I HAVEN'T COUNTED IT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE QUITE A FEW APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF THEM.

AND THEN OF COURSE, OFF OF SAN FILIPPO.

SO HOW MANY APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE WE GOING TO BE BUILDING IN PALM BAY? THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSAN CONLEY.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS SUSAN CONLEY.

BUT TONIGHT MY WORDS WILL BE THAT OF CITIZEN LORI LAFAVE.

MISS LAFAVE LIVES AT 1211 GREG GIRALDO GIRALDA CIRCLE NORTHWEST.

THIS IS A SOLUTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, REQUIRING FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE FROM CITY MANAGER AND OTHER CITY EMPLOYEES.

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AND WHEREAS THE CITY MANAGER AND OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN REMOVED FOR MORE THAN ONCE AMIDST SUCH ALLEGED WRONGDOINGS.

WHEREAS THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY ULTIMATELY PAY THE PRICE FOR THESE ISSUES, WHETHER FOUNDED OR NOT.

WHEREAS FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE ENABLES THE PUBLIC TO EVALUATE POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST, DETERS CORRUPTION, AND INCREASES PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN GOVERNMENT.

WHEREAS CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ALREADY REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A FORM SIX FULL AND PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF FINANCIAL INTEREST THIS FORM ANNUALLY.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS FOLLOWS.

SECTION ONE.

FORM SIX.

FULL AND PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF FINANCIAL INTEREST WILL BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THE POSITIONS OF CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, AND CITY CLERK FROM THIS DATE FORWARD.

SECTION TWO FORM SIX.

FULL AND PUBLIC DISCLOSURE OF FINANCIAL INTEREST WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED BY THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, AND CITY CLERK ANNUALLY, ADHERING TO THE SAME SCHEDULE REQUIRED BY THE MEMBERS OF THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL.

SECTION THREE.

THIS RESOLUTION SHALL TAKE EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON THE ENACTMENT DATE.

THANK YOU. COUNSEL.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT SPEAKER IS PATRICIA CLARK.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME IS PATRICIA CLARK.

I LIVE AT 480 HOBART AVENUE NORTHWEST PALM BAY.

I GOTTA GET MY GLASSES.

SORRY. CAN'T SEE THE LETTERS.

DO GET SMALLER. THIS IS THIS IS.

THIS IS WHAT IS COMING TO THE WONDERFUL CITY OF PALM BAY.

LET'S ADDRESS THE HARDSHIPS AND THE IMPACT ON THE ON AN ESTIMATED 30 YEAR OLD NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MULLEN AND BUILDERS WANT TO BUILD.

102 TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WOULD DESTROY OUR WAY OF LIFE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD SURROUNDED BY WATER ON THREE SIDES, WITH THE BIG POWER LINE ON THE FOURTH.

ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.

WE HAVE ESTIMATED 224 EXISTING HOUSES.

TIMES TWO CARS EQUALS 448.

ADDING TWO CARS TO EVERY 102 TOWNHOUSES WOULD GIVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AN EXTRA 204 CARS, WHICH WOULD EQUAL 652 VEHICLES TO GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN AN EMERGENCY.

FIRE. FLOOD.

HURRICANE 652.

TO DRIVE DOWN ONE MILE DOWN SERENADE STREET TO EXIT OFF ON JUPITER BOULEVARD.

PICTURE THAT GUYS.

THAT'S WHAT WE ARE FACING.

THIS IS.

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING YOU.

WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE IF THERE'S AN ACCIDENT OR AN INJURY.

AND WE CAN'T GET OUT WITH THESE VEHICLES OR THESE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE PEOPLE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE VEHICLES AND THEY LIVE IN THESE TOWNHOUSES, WILL HAVE TO WALK TO THE NEAREST BUS STOP IS A MILE AND A HALF AWAY.

FOR THE CITY BUS, THE NEAREST GROCERY STORE, WINN-DIXIE, IS OVER TWO MILES.

SO NOW WE GOT TO FIGURE IF YOU DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE, THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS TO GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

POLICE AND FIRE CAN'T HANDLE ANY MORE THAN WHAT THEY'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.

WHERE SCHOOLS ARE OVERCROWDED, CLASSES ARE 25 TO 27 CHILDREN PER TEACHER.

SOME KIDS ARE SITTING THREE SEATS TO A BUS.

OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL IN PALM BAY, THEIR BUS TO WEST MELBOURNE BUILDERS.

WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE BUILDERS THE OTHER NIGHT AND THEY STATED THEY ARE 85% DONE OF THE OF ON THEIR PART TO SEND TO PUBLIC WORKS AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

CITIZENS WANT TO KNOW WHY THE BUILDERS WERE NOT FINED FOR THE INITIAL ILLEGAL MEETINGS THAT THEY HAD IN THE BEGINNING, AND THE ILLEGAL CAMERAS THAT WAS PUT UP ON FPL WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION.

LAWYER AND THIS IS FOR THE LAWYER OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE UNDERSTAND WE CAN'T TELL THE BUILDERS WHAT THEY CAN BUILD, BUT WE CAN TELL THEM TO BUILD WHAT'S THE SAME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON A QUARTER ACRE LOTS?

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I MEAN, ON 12 ACRES.

AND AS FAR AS THE NEW COUNCIL MAYOR, MAYBE WE SHOULD GET SOMEBODY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IN PALM BAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST A QUESTION FOR IT TO BE WHAT THEY WANT FOR PALM BAY.

YES, SIR. WHAT PROJECT IS THIS? THIS IS THE SUNOCO.

SUNOCO SIGN SANKALPA.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

HAVE, HAVE.

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICATION IN? NO, MA'AM.

I'M. I'M SPEAKING TO STAFF.

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICATION IN? FROM WHAT? WHAT WAS THAT CALLED? SANKOFA.

I'LL HAVE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JONES RESPOND.

THANK YOU. I BELIEVE LISA STEPPED AWAY, BUT THE LAST THAT I HEARD, SANKOFA HAD PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS, AND THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF SUBMITTING A SITE PLANS AND NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT THEY'VE SUBMITTED ANYTHING COMPLETE.

OKAY, OKAY.

AND THEN MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION, LISA, JUST SHAKE THEIR HEAD.

NO, MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THAT WORD.

YES, MA'AM. MR. ROBINSON, BAD TIME TO STEP AWAY.

SO MY MY NEXT QUESTION, MA'AM, I, I UNDERSTAND, NO WORRIES.

MY NEXT QUESTION IS ARE RESIDENT ACTUALLY MENTIONED THOSE THOSE CAMERAS THAT THEY PUT UP, AND DID WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE WITH THAT, OR DO WE HAVE ANY RECOURSE BECAUSE THOSE, THOSE MEETINGS WERE NOT APPROPRIATE MEETINGS.

RIGHT. SO WHAT IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE THAT CAN BE DONE? SHE'S SHE'S STATING THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING.

SO I'M I'M VERY SORRY IF I MISSED THE END OF THAT, BUT I WANT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORY.

OKAY. FOR THE GENTLEMEN THAT ARE NEW HERE, THAT SANKOFA HAD DONE ONE.

I BELIEVE YOU RECALL ONE CP MEETING.

THEY CAME IN WITH A PRE-APPLICATION NOW AND THEY'RE THERE.

THAT'S ALL WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE UPLOADED APPLICATIONS BUT THEY ARE NOT COMPLETE.

SO WE HAVEN'T STARTED ANY REVIEW.

THEY ARE CONSULTANT CONTACTED ME JUST LAST WEEK AND SAID THAT THEY WERE HOLDING TWO NEW CPS BECAUSE WE STATED THEY HAD TO DO A, A CP FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PROPERTIES.

AND THERE'S FIVE.

THERE MIGHT BE SIX HANGING OUT THERE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH TWO THAT THEY HELD THE MEETINGS AT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS JUST THE OTHER EVENING.

AND PERHAPS THIS IS WHAT THE LADY WAS MENTIONING, BUT I, I APOLOGIZE.

WE DO NOT HAVE AN ACTIVE APPLICATION AT THIS POINT.

SO YES, HER NAME IS PATRICIA CLARK.

AND IF IF YOU CAN JUST HAVE A BRIEF CONVERSATION WITH MISS CLARK, SHE'S OUT THERE.

THAT WAY WE COULD GET GET HER INFORMED, AND AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT DIALOG.

ABSOLUTELY, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

NEXT SPEAKER, PASTOR MARK MILLER.

MARK MILLER, 898 NELSON AVENUE.

ALSO A SENIOR PASTOR, WELL UNDER 70 AND UNDER 60.

BUT I PRAY WHEN I GET TO 70, I GOT IT LIKE MY BROTHER HERE.

KEN. PASTOR KEN DELGADO.

HEY, I REALLY I JUST WANTED TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT, MAYBE A LITTLE DIFFERENT MESSAGE TODAY.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS.

I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY.

I WANTED TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA AND SO MANY OTHER EVENTS THAT TAKE PLACE YEAR ROUND IN RIGHT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH IS REALLY WORKING TO BECOME THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

I THINK IT'S REALLY EASY FOR US TO TAKE IT FOR GRANTED, BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE IT IN A LOT OF OTHER CITIES, EVEN IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, OR DEFINITELY AROUND THE UNITED STATES, WHERE YOU HAVE THE CITY GOVERNMENT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CHURCHES, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BUSINESSES ALL WORKING TOGETHER, RIGHT, FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, UNITED AND PROVIDING EVENTS FOR THAT FR E FREE.

AND THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, THIS TEAM, THE NEW TEAM, THE TEAM THAT WAS HERE BEFORE AND CERTAINLY OVER THE LAST 16 OR 19 YEARS THAT THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA HAS BEEN GOING ON.

SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS WAS WORTH NOTING.

ALRIGHT, I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THIS CITY AND SERVICE TO THE CITY.

I WANT TO REMIND YOU, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, THAT TIME IS SHORT AND MAN IS IT GOING FAST ALREADY.

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IT SEEMS LIKE AT LEAST IF NOT LONGER.

SO I WOULD REALLY HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO PRIORITIZE.

STAY ON TASK, STAY FOCUSED.

AND REMEMBER, RIGHT, THE ACCOUNTABILITY I TALKED ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE LAST MEETING, THE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE 140,000 HERE IN IN PALM BAY, AND ALSO THE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LORD.

AND HE SAYS, DO EVERYTHING AS UNTO THE LORD, AND THAT'S WHO WE ANSWER TO AT THE END OF THE DAY.

I THINK THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS THE NEW BUZZWORD.

IT SEEMS LIKE FOR THIS, THIS TERM OF CITY COUNCIL.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME A BUZZWORD.

I THINK IT SHOULD APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD.

RIGHT? NOT JUST TO THE CITY MANAGER, BUT ALSO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT ALSO TO THE CITIZENS AND TO THE CHURCHES.

IN PROVERBS 1111, WE'RE REMINDED UPRIGHT CITIZENS ARE GOOD FOR A CITY AND MAKE IT PROSPER.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR CITIZENS TO SHOW UP AND TO BE HERE AND TO MAKE SOME NOISE.

RIGHT? SOME OF IT CELEBRATION AND THANK YOU FOR FOR JOBS WELL DONE, BUT ALSO HIGHLIGHTING ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.

AND AND I THINK ALSO I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK TO YOUR PASTORS, EXCEPT FOR YOU, MAYOR, BECAUSE YOURS IS ALREADY SITTING HERE.

RIGHT. BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK TO YOUR PASTORS.

AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR DISCIPLES OF CHRIST TO GET ENGAGED, RIGHT? ONE OF THE CHIEF DANGERS IS POLITICS WITHOUT GOD, AND CHURCHES NEED TO GET INVOLVED AND WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT.

WE NEED TO GET INVOLVED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU.

LAST SPEAKER CARD IS FOR BUTCH AND BUTCH.

VERNON.

BUTCH. AROUND 219 TRENTON AVENUE PALM BAY, FLORIDA.

WELCOME ALL THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SORRY I MISSED THE SECOND MEETING.

I DID TRY TO WATCH IT WHILE I WAS OUT OF TOWN.

AND IT KEPT GOING IN AND OUT DUE TO MY WIFI THING THERE, BUT I GOT A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR WHAT'S GOING ON.

FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE A BIG THANKS TO ANGELA BURKE, DENNIS BUNT, AND CHRISTINE DE ARMAS.

I CALLED THEM ABOUT THE STREET LIGHT AND THEY RESPONDED WITHIN 24 HOURS.

NOW, THE LIGHT HADN'T GOT FIXED THAT QUICK, BUT THEY RESPONDED.

HEARD FOLKS TALKING ABOUT CLEARING LOTS.

I UNDERSTAND INDIVIDUALS LOT CLEARING IS A PERSONAL.

IT'S MY LOT. I CAN CLEAR IT EVERY I WANT.

BUT WHAT ABOUT LLCS ARE COMPANIES D.R.

HORTON BUILDERS WHO BUY NUMEROUS LOTS.

CAN WE NOT CHARGE THOSE GUYS SOMETHING SO THAT THEY ABIDE BY THE RULES, SUCH AS LOOKING FOR TURTLES OR WHATEVER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? I DON'T SEE ANY OF THEM DOING IT.

AND THE OTHER THING IS, IF WE COULD CUT DOWN OUR USES OF ABBREVIATIONS, A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE. SO IF YOU COULD LIKE A SHE SAID CCP, MOST OF US KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT SOME DON'T.

SO IF YOU COULD KIND OF GET OFF THAT WAGON AND USE THE WORDS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DESCRIBE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT AND GO, PENN STATE. IS THAT THE NITTANY LIONS? YES. ANY ANY COMMENT WITH THE LLC AND THE BUILDERS? MADAM ATTORNEY, YOU CAN PROVIDE ANY GUIDANCE REGARDING THAT.

MOST LIKELY THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LOCK CLEARING IS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE ACTUAL LOT AND THE LOT SIZE, NOT WHO OWNS IT, BUT WHICH OUR CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL IS AGREEING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THAT ENDS THE PUBLIC SPEAKER CARDS.

OKAY, LET'S GO TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]

I HAVE SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS ONE, THREE, AND SIX FROM THE PUBLIC ASKING TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT.

SAY AGAIN. SIR. ONE.

THREE AND SIX. ONE.

THREE AND SIX.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO.

YOU WANT TO PULL SOMETHING? YEP. FOUR AND FIVE.

FOUR AND FIVE.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SO I'LL NEED A MOTION.

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SECOND, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA EXCLUDING ONE, THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, OR JUST TWO AND SEVEN.

RIGHT. OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.

OKAY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS, NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

USE. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

JAKE, YOU WANT TO BRING THAT UP? BECAUSE YOU'RE. YOU'RE SIX FIVE, AREN'T YOU, SIR? THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU.

AND WELCOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IT'S NICE TO SEE THE PROMOTION FOR MISTER JAFFE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

NORMALLY AT A SECOND READING, WE WOULD JUST ASK IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I KNOW THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

MR. JAFFE IS FAMILIAR WITH THIS PROJECT, BUT WANTED TO JUST KIND OF GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY.

SO WE DO HAVE WITH US TONIGHT.

KIM BREZINKA, OUR LAND USE ATTORNEY, AND ALSO OUR THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER.

BUT IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE THIS HANDOUT.

YOU SHOULD BE HERE.

HE'S A HERO, BRO.

LET'S WAIT FOR ACTUAL THINGS.

AS WE GO. SO AS I SAID, THIS WAS A SECOND READING FOR A FUTURE LAND USE.

FIRST READING WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY CITY STAFF.

PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD UNANIMOUSLY RECORD APPROVAL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, AND SO DID THE COUNCIL.

SO IT WAS SENT UP TO TALLAHASSEE, COMES BACK HERE, AND NOW WE HAVE THE SECOND READING.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT IS KIND OF THE MEAT OF THE SANDWICH I LIKE TO CALL IT.

SO IT'S CALLED LOTUS AND I CALL IT THE MEAT OF THE SANDWICH, BECAUSE TO THE NORTH OF IT IS EMERALD LAKES, AND TO THE SOUTH OF IT IS ASHLAND PARK.

AND WATER LAKES IS A 1600 ACRE PROJECT, AND ASHLAND PARK IS A 1700 ACRE PROJECT.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE MEAT OF THE SANDWICH LOTUS, WHICH IS ABOUT 350 ACRES, IS JUST AS SUCCESSFUL AS THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS, SO THEY HAVE TO BE COMPATIBLE. EMERALD LAKES IS ON ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF THE NEW I-95 INTERCHANGE.

AND THEN THIS PROJECT TO THE SOUTH OF IT, ON THE EAST SIDE OF 95.

AND THEN WE HAVE ASHTON PARK TO THE SOUTH BY MICCO ROAD.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE HANDOUTS.

THE FIRST PAGE IS THE MEAT OF THE SANDWICH.

IT IS THE PROJECT LOTUS THAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT.

THE SECOND ONE IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH, EMERALD LAKES.

SO YOU CAN GET A FEELING FOR THAT PROJECT JUST TO THE NORTH OF US.

AND THEN THE ONE TO THE SOUTH IS ASHTON PARK.

SO IN ORDER FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE MIDDLE OF IT IS ABOUT A 25% OF THE SITE IS AN EXISTING LAKE. SO WE CENTERED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT AROUND THAT EXISTING LAKE.

WE MADE IT AN AMENITY.

SO WE'VE CREATED IS A MIX OF DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL USES.

WE HAVE SOME MULTI-FAMILY, SOME SINGLE FAMILY, AND THEN WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL AREA INCLUDING A DAYCARE.

IT'S SET UP SO IT CAN HAVE RETAIL, OFFICE, MEDICAL, RESTAURANTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND WE MADE IT SO THAT THE WALKABLE COMMUNITY, IT'S GOT PUBLIC ACCESS ALONG A LARGE PORTION OF THAT EXISTING LAKE OR ENHANCING THE LAKE.

WE'RE CREATING BUFFERS.

WE'RE CREATING KIND OF A BRIDGE ACROSS THE MIDDLE OF IT, AND WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF AMENITY AREAS, INCLUDING MULTIPLE LARGER ONES AND LOTS OF SMALLER POCKET PARKS THROUGHOUT IT AS WELL.

IT'S UNIQUE NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE MEAT OF THE SANDWICH, BUT ALSO TO THE EAST AND WEST OF IT ARE EAGLES PROPERTIES.

EAGLES IS PART OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENDANGERED LAND PRESERVATION AREAS BREVARD COUNTY HAS HAD FOR MANY YEARS.

AND IT'S THESE BEAUTIFUL BEAUTIFULLY MAINTAINED, UNDISTURBED, OPEN AREAS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

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SO WE HAVE GREAT INTERCONNECTIVITY THERE, IN ADDITION TO THE WALKABILITY THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.

SO A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE GET WITH THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS IS ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF THE CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND OF COURSE, SCHOOLS, FIRE AND POLICE.

SO WE'RE THE ENGINEERS FOR THE ALL THREE OF THE PROJECTS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY VERY CLOSELY GOING ON 15 PLUS YEARS.

SO I MENTIONED THOSE OTHER ITEMS BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE ODYSSEY SCHOOL IS COMING TO PALM BAY POINT WEST, WHICH IS JUST AT THE BABCOCK AND SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

WE'RE ALSO HAVE AN ACTION PARK, A 30 ACRE SITE SET UP FOR BREVARD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH FIRE AND POLICE.

WE HAVE A FIRE STATION SET UP AT PALM BAY POINT EAST, WHICH IS NEXT TO EMERALD LAKES.

WE'RE LOOKING AT A POLICE STATION SOMEWHERE WITHIN EMERALD LAKES.

AND THEN ASHTON PARK TO THE SOUTH, HAS SET ASIDE BETWEEN 5 AND 10 ACRES FOR BOTH POLICE AND FIRE STATION.

SO YOU DON'T SEE THOSE ON THE SITE PLAN BECAUSE WE'RE WORKING ON THOSE ON OTHER AREAS.

SO THIS ONE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, HAS THE DAYCARE, HAS THE RESIDENTIAL AND THEN HAS THE COMMERCIAL ON DOWN IN THE SOUTH EAST EAST CORNER OF THE SITE. SO AGAIN, MENTIONING THOSE TWO OTHER PROJECTS, THIS ONE HAS OVER 90,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL THAT'S BEING PROPOSED 1300 OVER 1300 UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL AND RELATES THE NORTH HAS TWO POINT 08,000,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USE.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE FOUR QUADRANTS AND THE VISIBILITY AND THE ACCESS DIRECTLY TO I-95.

SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THIS PROJECT TO TO GO HEAVY COMMERCIAL.

ASHTON PARK HAS PROPOSED 5800 UNITS AND 154 ACRES, APPROXIMATELY OF COMMERCIAL AREA.

SO AGAIN, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL THE SOUTH, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL THE NORTH.

SO WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON THAT HERE.

BUT THIS PROJECT IS DOING IS EXTENDING THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

IT'S BRINGING THE PARKWAY FROM THE EXISTING I-95 INTERCHANGE EAST THROUGH EMERALD LAKES AND THEN CUTTING RIGHT THROUGH OUR EASTERN PERIMETER, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SEE IN THE TOP OF THE PAGE I GAVE YOU ON THE FIRST SHEET DOWN TO MICCO ROAD.

THAT INTERSECTION IS THE NEW ENTRANCE TO ASHLAND PARK.

SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH EMERALD LAKES AND ASHTON PARK SO THAT THIS PROJECT CAN PROVIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY.

IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE AND TAKE CARE OF ALL THE STORMWATER TREATMENT FOR IT, AND IT'S GOING TO EXTEND BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITY MAINS.

SO THEY'RE DOING THAT AS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS ALTOGETHER, IF FOR ANY REASON ONE OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS DOESN'T IT PROCEED OR IS DELAYED OR SOMETHING HAPPENS WHICH YOU NEVER KNOW.

THIS PROJECT IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT ON ITS OWN IF NECESSARY.

SO WHILE YOU'RE TONIGHT JUST VOTING ON A SECOND READING FOR A FUTURE LAND USE, WE WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT THIS PROJECT HAS DONE AND WHAT THIS WHOLE REGION HAS REALLY DONE.

YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE THAT THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT THE CITY DID AT BAYSIDE LAKES IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE WERE NEEDING SOME WATER CAPACITY FOR THIS AREA, AND THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT IS JUST ABOUT DONE.

JUST THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, IT'S GOING TO BE OPEN.

AND SO NOW YOU'RE GOING TO START TO SEE SOME MAJOR UTILITY EXTENSION PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD.

AND SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

I THINK GABRIEL SPENT WAY TOO MUCH TIME TOGETHER IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS SINCE HE GOT HERE ALMOST DAILY IN COMMUNICATIONS ON HOW TO KEEP ALL THOSE THINGS MOVING FORWARD. SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO BRING UP CAMERAS, AND IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, MAY APPRECIATE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THEM.

YEAH. JAKE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH ALL ALL THE ENTITIES OUT THERE, ASHTON PARK, EMERALD LAKES, AS YOU MENTIONED.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVEN'T SEEN? I SEE I LIKE THE COMMERCIAL AND ALL OF THAT, BUT AND I SEE A LOT OF HOMES.

BUT WHERE ARE MY BASEBALL FIELDS? WHERE ARE MY FOOTBALL FIELDS? WHERE ARE MY SOCCER FIELDS? AND AND PART OF THAT DISCUSSION IS BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED IN THE PAST, THE SHARING OF FIELDS WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, THAT THAT MAY BE A GOOD PARTNERSHIP FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT IT'S NOT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND I KNOW I COACHED LITTLE LEAGUE FOR YEARS.

I COACHED FOOTBALL, AND THERE WAS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE ON THAT FIELD TIME.

AND SO AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT.

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I APPRECIATE THAT.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE TYPES OF PARKS THROUGHOUT.

IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE FIRST SHEET HERE, WE HAVE A LARGE PARK HERE, A LARGE PARK UP HERE.

AND THOSE TYPICALLY HAVE A COUPLE OF PLAY FIELDS.

WE USUALLY KEEP THEM KIND OF OPEN.

WE DON'T REALLY DO BACKSTOPS ANYMORE LIKE WE USED TO IN THE OLD DAYS.

WE'RE DOING A LOT MORE PICKLEBALL, A LOT MORE DOG PARKS, BUT OPEN PLAY AREAS FOR SOCCER AND FOOTBALL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S MY BASEBALL FIELDS.

WHERE'S MY WHERE'S MY I KNOW PICKLEBALL, BUT I'M JUST SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FAMILIES.

RIGHT. AND THIS IS THE FORWARD THINKING THAT I'M, I'M, I'M BRINGING BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND.

AND I SEE THE CHALLENGES TODAY WITH THE FIELDS THAT WE HAVE AND AND HOW WE COULD EXPAND ON THAT.

AND SO WHEN I'M SEEING THESE HOMES COMING IN.

I'M JUST THINKING TO PREEMPT ALL OF THAT.

THAT CHALLENGE FOR FIELDS, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO TO CONSIDER THAT.

YEAH. SO IF THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT.

YOU'RE WORKING THESE THREE, THREE PROJECTS, RIGHT.

DEDICATING A REGIONAL PARK MIGHT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, BE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

WE'RE NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE DESIGNING PARKS YET, BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS MADE KNOWN.

AND WE APPRECIATE THAT FEEDBACK THAT I JUST I FELT I HAD TO TELL YOU.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I GREW UP PLAYING ALL THOSE SPORTS TOO.

I COACHED BASEBALL, SOCCER AND BASKETBALL.

I THINK I SPENT MORE HOURS AT TRAVEL BASKETBALL THAN I COULD EVER, EVER SPEND, EVEN HERE.

AND I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR ABOUT THE PICKLEBALL ASPECT TO IT.

YEAH, WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE PICKLEBALL.

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INTO PICKLEBALL.

BUT ANYWAY. YEAH.

YEAH. AND WE NEED TO WALK IN CLINICS NEXT TO THE PICKLEBALL, TOO.

WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. BEEF O'BRADY'S AND STUFF LIKE THAT, TOO.

I MEAN. YEAH. NO, THAT'S THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT WE GET FROM THE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORS IS IS RESTAURANTS.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR THE MOST.

WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE PUBLIX.

YEAH, AROUND THE CORNER. SO WE'RE ALL EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW WHEN THE UTILITY PLANTS DIDN'T HAVE CAPACITY.

ALL THE DEVELOPERS IN THE AREA SAID PUBLIX.

HERE YOU GO. YOU GET THE CAPACITY YOU NEED.

WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER'S LEFT.

SO THEY REALLY HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER.

OKAY, WELL, ANY QUESTIONS OF THIS YOUNG MAN BEFORE? I DO. YES, SIR.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE GOING TO LOOK LIKE BEFORE YOU COME IN? IS THERE GOING TO BE POLICE AND FIRE THERE AVAILABLE BEFORE PEOPLE START MOVING IN? BECAUSE ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS HERE IS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S ACTUALLY LIKE OUT RUNNING AROUND IN A IN A VEHICLE THAT'S COVERING THIS AREA.

I THINK THIS IS A LOT OF LIABILITY THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS BEFORE ANYTHING IS DONE IN THAT AREA.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THE LONG TERM SOLUTION AND THE SHORT TERM SOLUTION, THE SHORT TERM SOLUTION BEING INTERIM FIRE STATIONS.

WE HAVE ONE WE'RE PUTTING IN AT LOMA AND BABCOCK STREET JUST TO THE WEST OF HERE.

AND WE HAD ANOTHER PROJECT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT TODAY THAT'S OUT AT THE WEST END OF THE CITY, WEST MALABAR ROAD, ABOUT PUTTING ONE OUT THERE.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A NEED TO BE CLOSER TO THIS PROJECT OR EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THEM ON THE LONG TERM SOLUTION. SO IF THERE IS A SHORT TERM AREA AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.

I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN 25 YEARS IN THE MAKING, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THAT AREA COVERED BEFORE ANYTHING.

I MEAN WE'RE NEEDING IT RIGHT NOW EVEN BEFORE YOU'RE STARTING.

SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE TOP THINGS AND THE PRIORITY WE HAVE BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS OUT THERE.

YEAH, WE'VE HEARD THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

WE'VE BEEN BEFORE THE DIFFERENT COUNCILS OVER THE YEARS, AND THAT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

CARRY ON SIR. I INTERRUPTED YOU, YOU WERE TEEING OFF TO MR..

INTRODUCING MR.. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

AND WE DO APPRECIATE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS A CHANCE TO RESPOND.

YES, SIR. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, WELCOME TO THE NEW MEMBERS ALSO.

IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU UP HERE.

YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO SPEAKING WITH ME, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY JUST A LITTLE BIT.

THIS IS JUST A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

IT'S LEGISLATIVE.

IT'S NOT QUASI JUDICIAL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE CARDS FOR IT, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FOURTH TIME THE CITY COUNCIL HAS SEEN THIS.

IT WENT UP TO THE STATE AFTER TWO HEARINGS.

MAYOR MEDINA, YOU ACTUALLY SIGNED ORDINANCE 20 2023 16 JUST WASN'T TRANSMITTED TIMELY UP TO THE STATE.

SO WE CAME BACK TO DO IT AGAIN.

IT WAS APPROVED FOR TRANSMITTAL FIRST READING ON SEPTEMBER 19TH OF 2024.

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THERE ARE COMMENTS FROM THE STATE THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU, AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THOSE AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY ARE GUIDANCE FOR FOR MOVING FORWARD.

THIS IS A REQUEST FOR PARKWAY FLEX USE FUTURE LAND USE OR FLU JUST TO USE ANOTHER ACRONYM.

AND IT IS CURRENTLY MICCO PARK VILLAGE USE MPV WHICH DOESN'T EXIST IN YOUR COMP PLAN ANYMORE.

WHEN YOUR COMP PLAN 2045 WAS ADOPTED, THAT WENT AWAY.

SO THIS IS ALSO TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT NO LONGER EXISTS IN YOUR IN YOUR CITY.

AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, PARKWAY FLEX USE IS A RANGE OF COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE USES ALONG A HIGHLY VISIBLE CORRIDOR.

THIS WILL BE ALONG THE PARKWAY EXTENSION IS FOR RETAIL.

PERSONAL SERVICES.

ESTABLISHMENTS, DAYCARE CENTERS, CHURCH AND RELIGIOUS USE, RESTAURANTS, FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, OFFICE, USE OF SERVICE STATIONS, SALES, FOOD SERVICE, THEATERS, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, AND A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES.

SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE PUT BEFORE YOU IN THE PDP AND FDP PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THOSE ARE IN APPLICATION STAGES.

THEY'LL BE COMING TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.

PDP IS JUST MA'AM.

YES, WE JUST HAD A RESIDENT ASKED FOR US TO.

I KNOW I SAID THE NAME FIRST AND THEN USED THE ACRONYM.

OKAY. I WAS TRYING TO I WAS TRYING TO GET THEM USED TO IT AND GETTING EVERYONE USED TO IT.

SO THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN ARE COMING BEFORE YOU IN THE FUTURE.

THE APPLICATIONS ARE IN.

SO THAT'S WHY I'VE USED THEM BOTH MAYORS I'VE GONE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT WITH THE ACRONYMS AS WELL.

SO WE ARE ASKING JUST FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE TO USE A DESIGNATION THAT NOW EXISTS IN YOUR CODE.

WHAT'S THERE NOW DOES NOT EXIST.

IT'S FOR 353.47 ACRES.

MR. WISE EXPLAINED IT ALL, AND HE DID EXPLAIN WHAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU NEXT.

JUST SO YOU GOT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THE AREA.

AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

AND WE ARE DONE.

THERE'S NO OTHER. UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE ONE MORE. DO MISS ROSE FOR THE APPLICANT? THE APPLICANT? OKAY, SO HERE IT'S SHOWING THAT THIS IS GOING.

THAT THERE'S A PIECE MISSING BETWEEN THE INTERCHANGE AND YOUR DEVELOPMENT.

IS THIS GOING TO BE IN BEFORE THAT, OR ARE WE GOING TO PLACE ALL THIS TRAFFIC ON A TWO LANE ROAD? I KNOW IT'S GIVING YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION FAST.

YEAH. PART OF THE PRESERVATION LAND.

SO THAT IS COUNTY OWNED.

IT WILL NOT BE DISTURBED AND IT'S MAINTAINED, BUT IT'S ALSO PUBLIC ACCESS.

SO THEY HAVE THAT SLIVER TO THE EAST OF US OR THE WEST OF US.

EXCUSE ME. NEXT TO 95 AND THEN TO THE EAST OF US IS A MASSIVE, HUGE, THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PRESERVATION.

OKAY. WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH, AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO CONNECT TO SAINT JOHNS PARKWAY, CORRECT? WELL, THIS THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IS THROUGH THIS PROJECT.

YES. OKAY, SO WHEN IS THE WHEN IS THE DO YOU THINK THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE INTERCHANGE AND THIS. BECAUSE UNTIL THAT CONNECTION IS MADE, WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS TRAFFIC ONTO MICCO ROAD, WHICH IS GOING TO CREATE WE DON'T HAVE A LIGHT AT DEER PARK IN BABCOCK, SO WE'RE LITERALLY GOING TO BRING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUT ONTO A TWO LANE ROAD, AGAIN WITH NO LIGHT AT DEER PARK.

YEAH, WE WON'T DO THAT.

THIS PROJECT WILL BUILD THE PARKWAY.

THIS PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY.

OKAY, BRING IT THROUGH EMERALD LAKES THROUGH THIS SITE TO MICCO ROAD, WHICH AGAIN JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO ASHTON PARK.

I JUST THIS PROJECT WILL DO THAT.

I JUST WANT TO GO ON RECORD.

I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS BEFORE THAT ROAD IS MADE.

YEAH. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, SORRY. WE'LL ALSO BE COMING FORWARD WITH A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT WORKS OUT THE DETAILS OF HOW THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.

WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ON THE STORMWATER TREATMENT, FOR EXAMPLE.

IT'S NOT A BURDEN ON THE CITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE OTHER PORTION OF THE PARKWAY DID NOT DO AT THIS TIME, BUT IT WILL BE DOING IN THE FUTURE.

SO A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKED OUT.

WE'RE JUST NOT AT THAT STAGE YET FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY, SIR.

YOU'RE. YOU'RE FIRST AND THEN, MR. CHIEF. YOUR SECOND.

MICHAEL WILLIAMS, 813 WHEATLEY STREET.

DID YOU SAY MICHAEL WILLIAMS? YES, SIR. MICHAEL WILLIAMS. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

THERE ARE SUNRISE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE.

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I HAVE HEARD ABOUT DAYCARES, BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE SCHOOLING.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THE SCHOOLING AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE AFFECTED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

IS THAT ALL, SIR? OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. I'M SURE THEY'LL RESPOND.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

FIRST ONE, WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE QUESTION OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE CONNECTION.

MY QUESTION IS, ARE THEY GOING TO PAY FOR THE BUILD? THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GOING TO SAY IT'S PALM BAY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OTHER SIDE OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THAT WAS $9 MILLION OFF OF OUR BACKS.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDERS WHO ARE GOING TO GET RICH, THAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE ROAD.

THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE, RIGHT? QUESTION NUMBER TWO.

THIS GOES BACK TO YOUR BALL FIELDS.

MAYOR. YOU ALSO, I'M NOT THE BIG RELIGIOUS PERSON, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY CHURCHES OR HOUSE OF WORSHIP ANYWHERE. NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO AFFECT BILL BARTON, BUT IT MIGHT AFFECT SOMEBODY ELSE.

AT LEAST HAVE SOME DESIGNATED SPACE FOR IT SOMEPLACE.

ASTON PARK, DON'T YOU TAKE MY DON'T YOU TAKE MY TIME HERE.

RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER THREE.

COULD I POSSIBLY GET THE HANDOUT THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU SO I COULD BE JUST AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS MY COUNCIL, AS A RESIDENT? THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THAT WAS IT? YEAH.

AS I AS YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN HIGHLY ABOUT OUR FAITH BASED COMMUNITY WITH.

AND ASTON PARK IS LISTENING.

RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YOU'VE GOT THOSE QUESTIONS THUS FAR.

JAKE. COME ON UP, SIR.

WE'RE PRAYING ON BILL, BUT IT'S NOT TAKEN SO FAR.

ROBERTS, 1796.

YES IT IS.

THANK GOD, 1796.

ONE MORE TIME. YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING THAT YOU HEAR THE SAME VERBIAGE FROM DEVELOPERS ALL THE TIME.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I MEAN, IT'S THE OLD SAYING BACK EAST, YOU'RE PEEING ON YOUR LEG AND TELLING YOU IT'S RAINING OUT.

I MEAN, COME ON.

I WAS TOLD THIS 15 MAJOR PROJECTS RIGHT NOW AND NEW CONSERVATIVE STAFF MEMBERS, HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT? AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, PLEASE DO.

I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT I'VE BEEN HERE GOING ON EIGHT YEARS.

2017 POPULATION WAS 119,000.

NOW IT'S 140 AND I HAVE NEIGHBORS TELLING ME THAT PUBLIX LOOKS LIKE THANKSGIVING DAY.

EVERY DAY I'VE TAKEN PICTURES OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS ON JUPITER AND SAN FILIPPO, FIVE ENORMOUS APARTMENT BUILDINGS SPILLING OUT ON A ONE WAY ROAD.

THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OKAY.

WE'LL STICK A LIGHT HERE OR A LIGHT THERE.

HOW IS TRAFFIC BEEN SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE? WHAT'S HAPPENED TO PALM BAY? WHEN WE FIRST STARTED BECOMING A CITY IN 60 YEARS, WHERE'S THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT? IT NEGATIVELY AFFECTS SCHOOLS, HEALTH CARE, TRAFFIC.

I MEAN, I THOUGHT COLORADO WAS BAD WITH NO SIDEWALKS IN THERE.

YOU GOT PEOPLE WALKING IN THE STREET ON THE EDGE OF THE GRASS WHILE YOU HAVE PEOPLE ZOOMING BY.

OKAY. WHAT? WHEN DO WHEN DO WE NEED TO STOP AND LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE AND FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF A DETRIMENT IS THIS TO FELLOW CITIZENS? AND PEOPLE HAVE MADE GOOD POINTS.

I MEAN, LOOK, I'M MAKING A PLUG FOR MEALS ON WHEELS.

THEY NEED TO GET SOME MONEY WITH PEOPLE THAT I DEAL WITH, THE VETERANS AND THE ELDERLY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT I GOT TO TELL YOU, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AROUND WHAT THE NEED IS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AND IMPACT FEES, LIKE SOME FORMER COLLEAGUES OF YOURS HAD SAID, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE? AND YOU MADE A GOOD POINT A WHILE BACK.

SPEND WHAT YOU HAVE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIX EVERYTHING ON JUST BUILDING ALL OF THESE PLACES.

BASEBALL FIELDS, FOOTBALL FIELDS.

IMAGINE THAT YOU CAN ONLY PUT SO MANY PEOPLE ON A TICKET, AND THEY'LL BE LINED UP 50 YARDS WAITING TO GET ON THE COURT.

WHEN IS ENOUGH? ENOUGH? AND WHAT? I'M ASKING WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE NEXT MEETING.

TELL ME ABOUT THE 15 PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT ARE PENDING RIGHT NOW THAT ARE IN THE THAT ARE IN THE IN QUEUE.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? IS IT GOING TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE? BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR CITY I CAN'T THINK OF THE WORD I WANT TO USE, BUT YOUR, YOUR STATEMENT THAT YOU PUT UP YOU WANTED TO.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IS YOUR FOLKS QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND IT'S DECREASING.

IT'S DECREASING EVERYWHERE I GO.

I HAVE A NEIGHBOR IN SOMERVILLE, BAYSIDE LAKES, WHO GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN BABCOCK TO GET ON SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY TO GO NORTH AND GET TO WORK AT THE DEFENSE INDUSTRY, BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO SIT IN TRAFFIC FOR 40 MINUTES TO GET ON 95.

THAT'S NOT A QUALITY OF LIFE.

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NOT THAT WE NEED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL OR MAHOMES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU NICK.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, SIR.

PHIL WEINBERG, 466 SCANLON ROAD.

I USED TO SIT UP THERE.

OKAY. YOU'RE ALL GETTING WAY AHEAD OF YOURSELVES.

THE ONLY THING THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS, AS MR. HAS SAID, IS A COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE TO REPLACE A LAND USE THAT NO LONGER EXISTS.

SO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION, YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT SITE PLANS, YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE, JUST THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE.

THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. ARE YOU COMING UP? PATRICIA CLARKE FOR 80 HOBART AVENUE NORTHWEST PALM BAY ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU IS YOU NEED TO THINK OF THE PEOPLE AND NOT OF THE BUILDINGS, INFRASTRUCTURE, INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE CAN'T GET OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE CAN'T GET OUR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

INFRASTRUCTURE. STOP THE BUILDING.

LOOK AROUND. LOOK AT YOUR TOWN.

GO SIT IN THE LITTLE RESTAURANTS AND TALK TO THE EVERYDAY PEOPLE.

WE DON'T WANT IT.

WE'VE ASKED YOU ALL TO STOP.

WE'VE WRITTEN LETTERS.

WE'VE TOLD YOU STOP DESTROYING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

I'VE MOVED HERE 30 YEARS AGO FROM MIAMI.

I KNOW RUBIO, YOU KNOW, HE'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, TOO, FROM DOWN IN MIAMI.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE LEFT MIAMI SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A QUIET.

I BOUGHT A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND BUILT OUR HOME ON A DIRT ROAD WITH POTHOLES THAT I COULD ALMOST PUT A CAR IN.

AND THAT'S WHERE I'VE BEEN EVER SINCE.

MY GRANDCHILDREN.

I'VE HAD FOUR GENERATIONS LIVE ON ONE STREET.

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN SAY THAT? NOT IN ONE HOUSE.

I'M TALKING FOUR HOUSES.

LESS THAN 5 OR 6 HOUSES APART FROM EACH OTHER.

I STILL HAVE GRANDCHILDREN ON THAT STREET.

I STILL HAVE A GRANDCHILD THAT COMES HOME FROM COLLEGE TO VOTE WHEN IT'S TIME TO VOTE, BECAUSE I FLY HER HOME TO VOTE SO THAT WE CAN KEEP OUR CITY SAFE FOR THE CHILDREN, SAFE FOR OUR WAY OF LIFE, AND NOT THE BUILDERS.

THE BUILDERS DON'T LIVE HERE.

THEY TAKE THEIR PAYCHECK AND THEY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT VICTIM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? OKAY. SEEING NONE.

OH. YES, SIR.

COME ON UP. SO THERE ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONS.

YEAH. OKAY. LET ME GO THROUGH.

ARE YOU. YES, SIR. CARRY ON.

SO FIRST QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE SCHOOL.

IT'S THE EXISTING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S AT THE CORNER OF MERALOMA AND BABCOCK STREET.

I MEANT. YEAH.

SUNRISE. THANK YOU. WE ACTUALLY JUST ADDED A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT INTERSECTION BECAUSE THE LEFT TURNS COMING OUT OF THERE ONTO BABCOCK STREET HAVE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT OVER THE YEARS, ESPECIALLY THAT AM PEAK HOUR.

SO WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.

I MENTIONED EARLIER, JUST SOUTH OF THERE, WE ALREADY HAVE A PROJECT MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVE A PRE-APP SCHEDULED FOR TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK.

FOR ODYSSEY TO PUT IN A NEW CAMPUS.

DOWN IN PALM BAY POINT WEST, WHICH IS JUST SOUTH OF THERE.

EMERALD LAKES HAS A SCHOOL SITE SET ASIDE WITH A HUGE AREA FOR BALLFIELDS.

YOU'LL BE HAPPY TO KNOW, SO MAKE SURE WE LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THAT.

THE ASHTON PARK PROJECT TO THE SOUTH HAS THE 30 ACRES SET ASIDE THAT WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD MULTIPLE TIMES.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN DOING THE FIRST EVER K TO EIGHT.

IN BREVARD COUNTY ON THAT SITE.

AND WE AND IT HAS 30 ACRES WITH OFF SITE STORMWATER.

SO IT HAS A HUGE AREA FOR PLAY FIELDS AS WELL.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TOLD SCHOOL IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE IT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARK FOR THE PLAY FIELDS AS WELL.

CHURCHES, THE FIRST TIME WE PRESENTED THIS PROJECT, YOU ASKED ME THAT VERY QUESTION.

SO ALL THE COMMERCIAL AREAS COULD BE A CHURCH AS WELL.

IT'S KIND OF FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE BASIS, IF YOU WILL, FOR THAT.

THE ROADS YOU KNOW, MR. HAMMER, YOU ASKED ME SPECIFICALLY THAT QUESTION.

GREAT QUESTION.

THIS PROJECT, WE HAD MULTIPLE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, DIDN'T HAVE ONE ATTENDED AT ANY OF THEM.

WE'RE IN A REMOTE PART OF THE CITY.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DEVELOP AROUND A BUNCH OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

WE ARE BRINGING THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO US.

WE'RE BRINGING THE ROADS, WE'RE BRINGING THE UTILITIES, AND WE'RE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THE ADJACENT DEVELOPERS TO DO ALL OF THAT IN CONCERT.

THE WORST THING WE CAN DO IS START TO BUILD SOME OF THESE PROJECTS AND NOT HAVE THEM BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE TYPICALLY SEE THE RESIDENTIAL COME IN FIRST, AND THE COMMERCIAL COMES IN RIGHT BEHIND IT.

AND THAT WHOLE WALKABLE COMMUNITY THAT I TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.

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THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO DOWN AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE, OR GO TO THE GROCERY STORE OR GO TO THE RESTAURANT.

AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY HOW WE'VE TRIED TO SET THIS UP.

SO I THINK I HIT ALL THE POINTS, AND THEN MR. WEINBERG IS RIGHT.

RIGHT NOW, TONIGHT, WE ARE JUST ASKING FOR THE SECOND READING APPROVAL OF THE LAND USE.

WE WILL BE BACK.

YOU WILL SEE THIS PROJECT AGAIN.

BUT I DID PROBABLY OPEN UP THAT CAN OF WORMS MYSELF BY GIVING YOU GUYS A BIGGER OVERVIEW OF THE WHOLE PROJECT AND WHAT'S SURROUNDING IT.

SO THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR REBUTTAL? AS LONG AS I HIT ALL THE MARKS FOR YOU, I THINK YOU DID.

OKAY. THANKS. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, A SECOND, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE COUNCILMAN.

NOTHING ELSE TO ADD, MAYOR.

MR. WEINBERG HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD.

SO THAT'S ALL. DEPUTY MAYOR? YEAH. I MEAN, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THE SECOND FACT IS THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED BACK IN 2023 AND PALM BAY FAILED TO SUBMIT IT TO THE STATE ON TIME.

SO I FEEL WE ARE LIABLE FOR SOMETHING THERE AND HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

IF THIS WAS TO BE PASSED TONIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY EXPOSURE? NO. THIS SHOULD BE BASED UPON YOU STILL BELIEVING THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WHAT YOUR GOALS AND ARE FOR THE CITY, BUT I WOULD NOT SUGGEST YOU CONSIDER ANY SORT OF LIABILITY OR LAWSUIT THAT I'M NOT PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND THEN JUST FURTHER COMMENTS.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE GROWTH.

AND, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY WAS DEALT A BAD CARD WITH GDC AND WHERE WE ARE IN THIS GENERAL VICINITY AND, AND WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN SOUTH AND WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE PROPOSING AND WORKING AND ORCHESTRA TOGETHER IS ALMOST LIKE VIERA.

AND I THINK THERE'S JUST INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO HAVE SOME AMAZING THINGS DOWN THERE.

AND AND ALSO GET THE GET THE PARKWAY BUILT AT THE COST OF DEVELOPERS, SO I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE CALL THE VOTE? NO, I ASKED MY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST FELT I'D NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAN ABOUT IT.

SO I, YOU KNOW, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOME FACTS, AND THAT'S WHAT I DID.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BENJAMIN, I'M CALLING THE QUESTION.

EXCUSE ME. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

MAYOR. BEFORE. OH.

YES, MA'AM.

OH, AS YOU WERE, MADAM.

AS YOU WERE, MADAM SMITH, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.

PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA ITEMS NUMBERS TWO, THREE AND FOUR.

ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER MUST SIGN MASONIC SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH.

ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO CROSS EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY.

ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY AND NOT PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN.

ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED.

COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE.

THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, THE APPLICANT WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY STAFF COMMENTS, FOLLOWED BY ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY OR PERSON.

THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS.

THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED.

COUNSEL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC AT THE END OF DELIBERATION.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE.

EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION.

THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KIM ROZINKA.

LACEY LYONS, ROSINKA 1290 US ONE AND ROCKLEDGE, FLORIDA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, CHAPARRAL PROPERTIES LLC.

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THERE WERE FOUR PHASES.

ONE FINAL PLAT WAS ADOPTED.

AT THAT TIME. THE OTHER THREE ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY THEIR PHASES FOUR B, FIVE A AND FIVE B.

WITH ME TONIGHT ALSO IS JAKE WEISS, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, AND GIL RAMIREZ WITH LTG, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

ALSO KEVIN BRADY WITH THE THE COMPANY CHAPARRAL PROPERTIES LLC.

SO THERE ARE THREE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN APPROVALS REQUESTED TONIGHT, AS I SAID THERE FOR A4B, FIVE A AND FIVE B.

JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW, AND THEN JAKE WEISS IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT IN DEPTH AND THE TIME FRAME.

ALL OF WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ALL RECEIVED FROM ME BY EMAIL.

THE LENGTH OF TIME THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN INVOLVED.

SO THIS STARTED LONG AGO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PHASES.

THERE WAS A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THESE PHASES FOUR AND FIVE APPROVED BY ORDINANCE 2022 DASH 31.

THERE IS A PROPORTIONATE, FAIR SHARE AGREEMENT APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL REQUIRING $969,700 IN TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES TO BE PAID, AND THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE MAYOR EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AS YOU KNOW, WHEN WE CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON AUGUST 13TH, QUESTIONS WERE ASKED OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.

THOSE MINUTES HAVE JUST BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND I SENT THEM TO YOU VIA EMAIL AS WELL.

THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A MINISTERIAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS AT THIS POINT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING FOR PRELIMINARY PLATS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT I PROVIDED TO YOU WITH THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE HEARING FROM MISS SMITH.

I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT IT FOR HERE, BUT SHE SHE DID INDEED STATE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS THE RIGHT TO PROCEED WITH THE PLAT, SO LONG AS THEIR PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN, AND AT THIS POINT, THE PLAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN BASED UPON WHAT WAS HEARD AT THAT POINT.

AND YOU'LL HEAR THAT SAME EVIDENCE HERE TONIGHT.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME.

IN FACT, PHASE FOUR AND PHASE FIVE BECAUSE OF WHAT COMING ONLINE.

THAT'S WHY THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT WYSTERIA AND MALABAR WAS INSTALLED IN ANTICIPATION OF PHASE FOUR AND PHASE FIVE.

AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WILL TALK TO YOU MORE IN DEPTH.

THAT SIGNAL WAS OPERATIONAL AS OF THIS MORNING.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE'S BEEN DOWN THERE.

AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

THERE WAS INVESTIGATION, AS MENTIONED, AFTER THE RESIDENTS SPOKE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS.

AND SO LTG HAS REVIEWED THAT AND HAS A REPORT TO TO SUPPLY TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

BASICALLY, THE TEMPORARY SIGNAL AT THE SAINT JOHN TERESE PARKWAY HAS ASSISTED ALLEVIATED SOME OF THAT CONCERNS BASED UPON THEIR OBSERVATIONS, BUT I'LL LET MR. RAMIREZ TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, AND JAKE WISE WILL TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THIS PROJECT AND AND HOW HE'S COME TO BE WITH THESE FIVE PHASES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

BUSINESS ADDRESSES 2651 WEST OAK VALLEY BOULEVARD.

I DO HAVE A HANDOUT AGAIN, IF THAT'S OKAY, BY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS. WE'VE GOT DIFFERENT ONES NOW.

THANK YOU.

AGAIN WITH SOME OF THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I KNOW MR. JAFFE HAS SEEN IT ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

MR. JOHNSON AND MAYOR MEDINA HAVE ALSO SEEN THIS BEFORE.

THE PROJECT IS A 245 ACRE EXISTING PUD EXISTING MASTER PLAN APPROVAL.

AND WE HAVE IF YOU SEE THAT EXHIBIT THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU, YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT, WHICH IS NORTH MALABAR ROAD, PHASES ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE FULLY CONSTRUCTED.

HOUSES HAVE BEEN SOLD.

RESIDENTS ARE LIVING THERE.

PHASE TWO HAD A PRETTY GOOD SIZE AMENITY CENTER.

PHASE THREE HAS, AS YOU CAN SEE, A VERY LARGE STORMWATER PONDS OVERSIZE

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SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TONIGHT IS AT THE SOUTH END OF THE PROJECT, PHASE FOUR B, FIVE A AND FIVE B.

AS MR. ZINK HAS SAID THE OTHER SHEET OF PAPER, YOU HAVE THE SMALL ONE, THE EIGHT AND A HALF BY 11 THAT IDENTIFIES TO YOU ALL THE APPROVALS WE'VE HAD TO GO THROUGH JUST TO GET HERE.

YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2014.

SO THAT MEANS WE STARTED WORKING ON THIS IN 2013.

AND WHEN I SAY WE STARTED WORKING ON IT, WE DOVE IN DEEP WITH THE CITY STAFF.

WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING FROM UTILITIES TO LAYOUTS TO BUFFERING.

WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST.

I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'VE MET SO MANY TIMES OVER THE YEARS.

WE'VE OFFERED TO PUT IN FENCES EARLY.

WE'VE OFFERED TO PUT IN HIGHER FENCES IF THEY'VE ACTUALLY CALLED ME BEFORE AND SAID, HEY, THERE'S THERE'S A BIG MOUNTAIN OF DIRT.

CAN YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT THE NEXT DAY? WE'RE OUT THERE.

DUST CONTROL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS PROJECT.

ACTS ACCESSIBILITY.

MALABAR ROAD WAS ONE OF THE KEY ITEMS. AND SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, IS THERE A WAY WE COULD CONNECT SOMEWHERE ELSE? THERE WAS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE EAST.

THE NORTH IS MALABAR ROAD.

SO THAT'S WHERE A CONNECTION IS.

SO WE DOVE DEEP.

WE LOOKED HARD AT TRYING TO DO TWO SEPARATE ROADS TO MALABAR ROAD.

THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE EAST OF US LARGE D.R.

HORTON SUBDIVISION, WHERE THE ENGINEERS FOR THAT ONE AS WELL, AT THAT TIME, THAT STAFF DETERMINED IT WOULD BE BEST TO HAVE ONE ACCESS POINT WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

SO WE EVEN LOOKED AT TYING TO TIE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE WEST OF US.

WE OFFERED TO EXTEND UTILITIES AND CONNECT THE ROADWAY TO IT.

THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT US TO DO THAT, UNDERSTANDABLY DIDN'T WANT US TO DO THAT.

AND SO IT WAS DETERMINED BACK IN 2013, 2014 WITH THE CITY STAFF, WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, AND WITH THAT CITY COUNCIL, WITH UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THIS SPECIFIC LAYOUT, THE LOCATION OF THAT ROADWAY CONNECTION, WHICH, AS MR. SAID, HAS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT STARTED FLASHING TODAY.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

LINES UP WITH AN EXISTING ROAD THAT GOES TO THE NORTH, CREATING A FOUR WAY INTERSECTION.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ITSELF HELPS NOT ONLY THIS DEVELOPMENT, OF COURSE, BUT HELPS OTHER ROADWAY CONNECTIONS BECAUSE IT CREATES GAPS IN TRAFFIC.

SO THAT IS A BENEFIT, NOT A DIRECT BENEFIT, BUT A BENEFIT FOR THEM AS WELL.

SO THIS LIST OF PERMITS, YOU SEE PHASE ONE AND THE OVERALL MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2014 THROUGH 2021.

CHAPARRAL PHASE TWO, PHASE THREE, PHASE FOUR AND FIVE.

AND THE AMENITY CENTER.

THOSE ARE JUST THE CITY PERMITS THAT DOESN'T COUNT DEP, SAINT JOHN'S, MILLER, TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT, AND ALL THE OTHER PERMITS THAT WE GO THROUGH.

THE PHASES ONE, TWO AND THREE THAT ARE BUILT FOR A THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED.

THEY'VE SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVERSIZING THE ROADS, OVERSIZING THE UTILITIES, OVERSIZING THE LIFT STATION.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL ITSELF IS ABOUT $1 MILLION, EXTENDING TURN LANES LONGER THAN WE WOULD HAVE, ALL IN ANTICIPATION OF PHASES FOUR B, FIVE A AND FIVE B.

AS YOU MIGHT BE AWARE, THERE IS A PD AND E STUDY BEING DONE FOR MALABAR ROAD.

WE'RE ALL HAPPY BECAUSE THAT NOT ONLY PROVIDES DESIGN, BUT IT ALSO PROVIDES FUNDING SOURCES FOR THE ULTIMATE WIDENING OF MALABAR ROAD, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS NEEDED. WE'VE DONE MULTIPLE PROJECTS ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.

EVERY PROJECT WE'VE DONE, INCLUDING THIS ONE, HAS PROVIDED 48 TO 50FT OF OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY SO THAT MALABAR COULD BE WIDE IN THE FUTURE. WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT WAS COMING.

WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN IT'S NEEDED.

IT'S BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME.

WE ALL WISH IT WAS ALREADY HERE.

BUT THE REALITY OF IT IS IT'S JUST NOT HERE YET.

WITH THAT BEING SAID GIL RAMIREZ WITH LTJG IS OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AND HE CAN PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THAT.

GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I'M GIL RAMIREZ, 1049 EVERETT BOULEVARD, SUITE NUMBER 104, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

32 901. I'M THE CEO OF LASSITER LASSETER TRANSPORTATION GROUP.

LAST TIME WE WERE BEFORE YOU, ON AUGUST THE 13TH, WE HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND WE WERE TASKED WITH GOING ON SITE AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE SITUATION AND TRYING TO IDENTIFY HOW TO CURE IT.

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I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

I'M SAYING THAT THE REAL ISSUE THAT WAS OCCURRING WAS ALL OF THE SPILL BACK FROM THAT INTERSECTION.

WE HAD PREVIOUSLY REPORTED AND MANY OF OUR STUDIES, NOT JUST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR MANY OTHERS, THAT THAT IMPROVEMENT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

WE HAVE KNOWN THAT SINCE, PROBABLY EARLIER THAN 2018, WHEN WE WERE YOUR CONSULTANTS AND WE HAD BEEN APPROACHED TO POTENTIALLY DESIGN THAT SIGNAL FOR YOU, STAFF DECIDED TO DO IT INTERNALLY.

THE PROJECT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEYOND THAT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY FORTHCOMING WITH STAFF THAT IT WAS NEEDED.

WHAT WE DID OBSERVE AS PART OF THIS SET OF OBSERVATIONS WAS A CONFIRMATION OF THE STUDIES THAT WE HAVE DONE FOR YOU OVER THE YEARS.

WE STILL HAVE PROBLEMS AT SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AT EMERSON DRIVE AND PACE DRIVE.

SOUTHBOUND LEFTS ARE BACKING UP, AND IT WOULD BE A REALLY GREAT IDEA TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE'RE PRESENTING IT TO YOU IN OUR STUDIES, NOT JUST FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR MANY DEVELOPMENTS.

WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT AS A NEED.

AND IT WILL, I'M SURE, COME UP AGAIN NOW.

ROUGH NUMBERS $500,000 EACH TO EXTEND INSTALL TURN LANES RIGHT NOW THIS PROJECT, AS WE HAVE ALREADY SAID, IS PROVIDING A PROP SHARE IN THE AMOUNT OF $960,000, 700 RIGHT, PLUS IMPACT FEES.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CUMULATIVE COST OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WE'VE INSTALLED, THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE'RE GOING TO PAY AND THE PROP SHARE THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $4.2 MILLION, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CONTRIBUTE THAT BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OUR IMPACT.

AND WE WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'VE DONE WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ASSIST IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO.

BUT AT THIS POINT, IT DOES APPEAR THAT THE IMMEDIATE ISSUE THAT WAS REPORTED AT THE LAST MEETING WAS ADDRESSED BY THAT TEMPORARY SIGNAL, AND WE HOPE THAT THE CITY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH SIGNALIZATION FULL SIGNALIZATION OF THAT SIGNAL OR THAT INTERSECTION AT SAINT JOHNS AND MALABAR ROAD, BECAUSE IT'S SORELY NEEDED.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THEM.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR, LET ME START.

COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN HAMM, I DO HAVE ONE.

AM I LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY? THAT THERE'S ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

IS THERE ANY OPTIONS IN THE FUTURE FOR A SECOND WAY OUT FOR 795 LOTS? THERE IS.

IT WOULD BE THE FUTURE EXTENSION OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

BUT THAT IS VERY LIKELY A LONG TIME OUT.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTION, SIR? YES. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

I BELIEVE I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL.

IT WAS MAJORITY OF COUNCIL THAT HAD CONCERNS WITH THE TRAFFIC.

AND I'M HEARING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SIR.

AND MY CONCERN, I FEEL, IS MORE SO WITH THE COMMUNICATION.

BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING YOU FOUND THAT WE HAD THE TEMPORARY TRAFFIC SIGNAL, WHICH THAT'S SOMETHING WE PUT IN PLACE.

ARE WE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF OR BACK? LIKE, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR STAFF'S TAKE ON IT AS WELL.

ON THIS TOPIC, BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE A BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION BEING THAT WE'RE ALL STAKEHOLDERS.

SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR STAFF'S TAKE ON IT.

I, I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T HAVE IT.

ENGINEER, TRAFFIC ENGINEER, CITY ENGINEER, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL WHAT HE WAS ANYMORE.

WHICH THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC, BUT VACATION.

JUST AS PASTOR KEN DELGADO, SENIOR PASTOR KEN DELGADO MENTIONED, IS IS CRITICAL.

AND I'M SEEING A LACK OF THAT WITH THIS.

SO IF YOU I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH STAFF AND YOURSELF, SIR, ON THAT.

SO I CAN SAY THAT WE WERE NOT INFORMED HAD WE KNOWN WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE DEPLOYED, WE WOULD HAVE GONE OUT THERE EARLIER TO CONFIRM THE OBSERVATIONS, TO GET SOME CUES TO FIGURE OUT HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW BAD THINGS REALLY WERE, BECAUSE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC TO HAVE THAT DATA AND THEN LOOK AT THE AFTER AND SEE HOW THAT SIGNAL IMPROVED.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T KNOW, SO WE DIDN'T GET OUT THERE FAST ENOUGH.

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OKAY. YEAH. LISTEN, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THE SIGNAL DID GO INTO FULL OPERATION TODAY.

HASN'T BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE COUNTY, BUT THEY DID COME OUT, INSPECT AND ALLOW US TO TURN IT ON.

WELL, TO YOUR TO YOUR DISCUSSION.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

YOU GOT TO REMEMBER, THE COMMUNICATION FROM THIS DAIS AT THAT TIME WAS GET THAT TEMPORARY SIGNAL IMMEDIATELY UP.

WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

SO I THINK STAFF WAS JUST FOCUSED ON LISTENING TO WHAT WE ALL PAID EXTRA FOR, FOR THAT TEMPORARY SIGNAL, BECAUSE IT WAS A DIRE NEED.

AND IT IS A SHAME THAT THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS WEREN'T RECORDED.

BUT TO STAFF'S DEFENSE, I GOT TO TELL YOU, WHEN WHEN WE GOT THAT SIGNAL, WE EXECUTED THAT QUICKLY BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY WAS IN AN UPROAR. IF YOU IF YOU REMEMBER.

SO BUT THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT.

THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.

WHETHER BUT I READ BETWEEN THE LINES THERE, SIR.

YES, SIR. SO THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO QUESTIONS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? OKAY. SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE, DEPUTY MAYOR.

BRENDA TRICKY DO THAT.

RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS BRENDA SHORROCK.

I LIVE AT 311 ALLISON DRIVE IN MALABAR LAKES WEST, WHICH WAS ON THE PREVIOUS MAP THAT YOU COULD SEE.

I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING AT THIS COUNCIL AGAINST THIS PROJECT SINCE 2014.

OKAY. AS YOU HAVE SEEN ON THE MAP AND YOU JUST SPOKE ABOUT IT, THERE IS ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

NOW THEY WANT TO PUT MORE HOMES.

OVER 600 MORE HOMES.

1200 CARS ADDED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT ON MALABAR ROAD.

OKAY. IF ANY OF YOU WERE AROUND FOR THE HURRICANES IN 2004, YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS EXTREMELY HARD TO GET OUT AT THAT TIME. AND WE ARE IN VERY LONG LINES OF TRAFFIC.

THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO.

THERE ARE SO MANY MORE PEOPLE LIVING HERE NOW.

I SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF WE HAVE TO RUN FROM A HURRICANE AGAIN.

PEOPLE WILL NOT GET OUT.

THERE IS A TRAFFIC JAM THAT HAPPENS EVERY DAY, EVERY SINGLE DAY, INCLUDING THOSE FOUR DAYS THAT HE TALKED ABOUT EVERY SINGLE DAY ON MALABAR ROAD FROM 815 TO 9 A.M.

AND AGAIN FROM 315 TO 4 P.M..

THE NEW LIGHT THEY ADDED IN FRONT OF TILLMAN LAKES, WHICH JUST STARTED THIS AFTERNOON, WILL NOT HELP THIS TRAFFIC AT ALL.

IF AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS TRYING TO GET TO SOMEONE IN A HEALTH CRISIS IN TILLMAN LAKES OR IN OUR DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THROUGH.

THERE'S THE ONE. THERE'S THE CANAL BRIDGE RIGHT BEFORE THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND BEFORE BRENTWOOD LAKES.

REALLY THAT TWO CAR CARS GOING BOTH WAYS HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.

THE AMBULANCE, THE FIRE TRUCK THEY CANNOT GET THROUGH.

THERE IS NOWHERE FOR THEM TO GO.

SO UNTIL THAT ROAD IS WIDENED, THIS CANNOT HAPPEN.

THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DEATH WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS AND IT'S RECORDED AT THIS MEETING.

IT WILL BE ON YOUR HANDS, AND YOU WILL BE REMINDED OF IT EVERY DAY.

THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT THIS DECISION IS.

YOU NEED TO STOP THE BUILDING UNTIL AFTER THE ROAD IS WIDENED.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE FIVE YEARS.

THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO GO IF THEY WANT TO MOVE TO FLORIDA.

A LOT OF PLACES IN PALM BAY LOOK AT HERITAGE PARKWAY WIDE OPEN.

IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS AT MALABAR LAKES WEST TO TURN ONTO MALABAR ROAD ALREADY WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION, OR THERE ARE SOCCER TOURNAMENTS AND FRED POPPY PARK OR THE CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA.

THE TRAFFIC IS BUMPER TO BUMPER.

AND NOW, TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, WE'RE GOING TO GET CAUGHT BETWEEN TWO LIGHT CHANGES, ONE ON EACH SIDE OF US.

WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE RESIDENTS WHO'VE BEEN THERE.

TRAFFIC IS NOT ONLY THE ONLY PROBLEM.

ALL SERVICE NEEDS, SUCH AS WATER AND SEWAGE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND UPDATED.

CAN I PLEASE JUST FINISH?

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THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU. AND HERITAGE ARE FILLED ALREADY.

WHERE ARE THESE, MA'AM? MADAM SPEAKER. NEXT SPEAKER CARD I HAVE IS FOR SCOTT BERGEN.

HE NEEDS TO SIGN THE WITNESS.

SAY IT AGAIN. SCOTT BURGESS.

THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD. BUT HE DID NOT SIGN.

OKAY. SCOTT.

YEAH. JUST AUTOGRAPH THAT FOR ME REAL QUICK.

NO WORRIES. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MY NAME IS SCOTT VIRGIN, 441 NELSON DRIVE.

I'M IN MALABAR LAKES WEST.

BEEN UP HERE A NUMBER OF TIMES FOR THIS SAME ORDEAL.

NOT TO KEEP GOING OVER AND OVER THE TRAFFIC, BUT THE TRAFFIC HAS NOT CHANGED DUE TO THE LIGHT.

I DON'T FORESEE IT CHANGING OTHER THAN PROBABLY GOING TO GET WORSE, I CAN TELL YOU THAT JUST IN REFERENCE.

TUESDAY HAD TO GO TO THE DOCTORS 9:00 APPOINTMENT.

I LEFT AT 815.

I DIDN'T GET OUT.

IT TOOK ME SIX MINUTES TO GET OUT OF MY STREET.

CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT? YOU SIT AT LIGHTS EVERY DAY, RIGHT? IT'S WHATEVER. IT'S NO BIG DEAL.

SIX MINUTES BEFORE, SOMEONE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO LET ME GET OUT.

OTHERWISE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SO AGGRESSIVE TO GET OUT, YOU'RE GOING TO CAUSE AN ACCIDENT.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

MAYBE. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T PREDICT THAT.

IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE.

WHAT QUALIFICATIONS YOU NEED FOR GETTING IN AND OUT OF ANY DEVELOPMENT, OR HOW MANY CARS ARE ALLOWED LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD WHEN THEY CONNECT THE CROSSOVER. THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO ADD 1200 CARS TO THE ALREADY 1000 THAT COME OUT OF THERE.

THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO US.

SO YEAH, THE LIGHT WILL BE GOOD FOR THEM TO COME OUT AND BLOCK.

TRAFFIC IS WHEN IT HAPPENS.

IT LITERALLY JUST TAKE A RIDE.

WHEN I DROVE UP THE STREET, IT WAS ALMOST THREE MILES OF BACKED UP TRAFFIC ON MALABAR ROAD.

FROM MY STREET, I COULD LOOK DOWN TO THE LEFT AND THEN ALL THE WAY UP JUST TO GRIDLOCK ALL THE WAY DOWN.

THAT'S JUST TRAFFIC.

AND AS FAR AS THE NUMBER IT'S GOING TO EXCEED, YOU REMEMBER THE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED THAT ARE GOING IN DOWN THERE.

YOU'VE GOT PUBLIX THAT'S GOING IN DOWN IN THE CORNER, YOU'VE GOT AN RV PARK.

YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH BEYOND, WELL BEYOND THIS THAT ANOTHER 600.

I REALLY I AM NEVER GETTING OUT OF MY WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET OUT.

I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY HAVE A LIGHT FOR US TO GET OUT OF THERE REALLY, OR ANYWHERE ELSE ACROSS THE WAY? LET ME ASK YOU THIS. DO YOU GUYS INFORM ALL THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MALABAR? I KNOW I ABOUT THAT, BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT EVERYONE DOWN THERE HAS ISSUE WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S HERE AND HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

AND I KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO SEE EVERYBODY IN HERE, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE TELLING YOU JUST HOW BAD IT IS.

AND I ASSURE YOU THAT LIGHT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO LET IT PILE UP EVEN FURTHER UP THE STREET.

IT'S GOING TO STILL COME UP FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

SO I'M GOING TO BE BLOCKED. AND THEN EVERYBODY'S GOING TO SAY, NO WAY, I GOT TO GO AND WE'RE GETTING OUT IT AGAIN WITH THE EMERGENCY.

WE HAVE NO FIRE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY POLICE DOWN THERE AND THERE'S STILL NOTHING THERE.

WHY DOES THIS NEED TO GO IN NOW? THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST QUESTION.

WHY CAN WE NOT WAIT FOR THE ROAD TO COME IN? WHY CAN WE NOT GET MALABAR WIDENED AND JUST NOT OVERBURDEN THE ENTIRE CITY, WHICH IS REALLY DOWN THAT END? IT ALL HAS TO BE DONE. I THINK OF 20,000 ON JUST ACROSS THE BACK ROAD DOWN THERE THAT THERE ARE HOUSES THAT NOBODY'S EVEN MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, GOING GOING ACROSS OUT TO 192 PLUS ALL THE APARTMENTS THERE.

WE'RE JUST I MEAN, WE'RE SWIMMING IN IT.

HOW MUCH MORE DO WE NEED? IN ONE SECTION OF TOWN IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY.

AND AGAIN, WHAT WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN SOMEBODY NEEDS HELP? IS NOBODY GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT? I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE DRIVING. IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S REALLY THE BIGGEST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

THE WATER, ELECTRIC GRIDS.

MAYBE SOMEBODY SHOULD THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, BUT JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE HAD THE POTENTIAL PLAN THAT WAS PUT OUT.

PROPOSAL FOR THE ACTUAL WIDENING OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY ON SOME OF THESE TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE GOING TO BE CHANGED OUT FOR ROUNDABOUTS.

SO THAT MEANS A CONTINUOUS FLOW OF TRAFFIC, NOT EVEN PROVIDING WITH A BREAK IN TRAFFIC FOR SOMEBODY COULD POSSIBLY GET OUT.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF ROUNDABOUTS, IS IT KEEPS THE TRAFFIC IN A STEADY FLOW OF MOTION.

THE PEOPLE THAT COME OUT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT WANT TO GET ONTO MALABAR ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN, GO DOWN TO THE GET TWO LANES OVER, GET OVER TO THE ROUNDABOUT, MAKE ACCESS INTO THE ROUNDABOUT TO BE HEADING BACK TOWARDS THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A CONSTANT FLOW.

SO THERE'S GOING TO THERE'S DEFINITELY A PROBLEM COMING WITH WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS ON SAINT JOHNS, NOT SAINT JOHNS ON MALABAR ROAD.

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NOW I HAVE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE POPULAR, BUT IT IS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.

AND THAT IS WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS JUST LIKE WE DO AT THE CHURCHES ON SUNDAY.

WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS THAT STOP THE TRAFFIC, ALLOW PEOPLE TO MOVE AND COME AND GO.

SO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S GOT THE EYE VISUAL ON IT THAT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ALLOW TRAFFIC TO COME AND GO.

NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A POSITIVE TO THAT, THAT IT'LL ALSO PROVIDE SOME POLICE OFFICERS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF OVERTIME, WHICH WOULD BE GOOD FOR THEY WOULD LIKE.

AND MAYBE SOME OF THESE COMMUNITIES MIGHT BE WILLING TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO PAY FOR THAT IF THEY'RE HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME.

THAT'S JUST A PROPOSAL.

I KNOW IT'S NOT POPULAR, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW THE TRAFFIC DILEMMA TO BE SOLVED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING.

WE'RE GOING TO DO A STUDY NOW.

THAT'S NOT WHAT'S BEING EVEN PLANNED FOR MALABAR ROAD.

IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE INSTEAD OF BETTER.

AND THAT'S NOT EVEN FOR SEVEN YEARS.

WE'RE SAYING FIVE LOOKS LIKE SEVEN YEARS NOW IF WE EVER GET FUNDING.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

LAST SPEAKER CARD IS SUSAN CONLEY.

I'M SUSAN CONNELLY.

I FEEL COMPELLED TO SPEAK.

WHERE THE PROBLEM IS.

THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN GOING ON, LIKE JAKE SAID, SINCE 2013.

11 YEARS.

WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED TONIGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED IN 2013.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CUMULATIVE EFFECTS OF PHASED DEVELOPMENTS BACK IN 2013.

EVERYTHING FIT.

THE TRAFFIC WASN'T BAD.

WE HAD LOTS OF LAND.

IT LOOKED GOOD ON PAPER.

WE'RE NOW 11 YEARS.

THERE'S NOT EVEN THE SAME PEOPLE HERE.

THERE'S NOT EVEN THE SAME PEOPLE IN THE LAND AND GROWTH DEPARTMENT.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE SAME LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.

THERE HAS GOT TO BE A REVISION OF THE PROCESS.

THAT INCLUDES LOOKING AHEAD, NOT DOING STUDIES FOR THE MOMENT OR FOR NEXT YEAR, LOOKING AHEAD FOR CUMULATIVE EFFECTS TO PREVENT THIS.

THAT IS HAPPENING TONIGHT.

WE HAVE ALSO GOT TO INCLUDE CITIZENS IN THESE NOT JUST ONE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.

THAT IS AT THE BEGINNING WHERE DEVELOPERS CAN COME AND SAY, WE HAD NO ONE THERE.

THERE'S REASONS WHY NO ONE IS THERE.

WE NEED CITIZENS INVOLVED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE PROCESS? HE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE PERMITS AND THE APPROVALS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH.

THESE THINGS NEED TO BE AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

CITIZENS NEED TO BE INVOLVED.

CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW WHAT DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE.

THERE ARE MANY ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING MADE BY STAFF THAT IMPACT CITIZENS.

THE PICTURES YOU SEE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENTS, YOU DON'T SEE ANY PICTURES OF THE HOMES OF THE CITIZENS LIVING THERE.

THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE GETTING CRAMMED INTO LONG STANDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

BILL BATTEN HAS A SOLUTION.

I HAVE SOME SOLUTIONS TOO.

WE NEED TO PAUSE AND BEFORE DECISIONS LIKE THIS.

AND LOOK AT THESE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS.

WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN OUR APPROVAL PROCESS ESPECIALLY WITH PHASED IN DEVELOPMENTS. THANK YOU.

THANK THANK YOU.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS RIGHT.

THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PHASING IN.

BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO REBUT ON MOST OF THOSE.

YEAH, I'M JUST TAKING NOTES.

I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE LIST.

AND I THINK MISS ROZANKA WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING AS WELL.

SO. I'M SORRY.

I'M PROBABLY TOO FAR. SO THE TALKED ABOUT THE ROAD WIDENING 4 TO 5 YEARS OUT OR SO BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING PRETTY FAR ALONG WITH

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THIS IS NOT THIS NUMBER OF HOMES BEING BUILT TOMORROW.

THIS IS A MULTIYEAR DEVELOPMENT.

WE STARTED THIS IN 2014 WITH OUR FIRST APPROVAL.

HERE WE ARE IN 2014 WITH OUR FOURTH PHASE.

WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE MORE PHASES.

THAT TOOK TEN YEARS.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING TO PUT ALL THIS TRAFFIC ON TO MALABAR ROAD THIS YEAR, NEXT YEAR, 5 TO 10 MORE YEARS.

THAT'S WHY WE DO THESE LONG RANGE TRAFFIC STUDIES, THESE LONG RANGE PLANNING.

AND WE'VE ALWAYS KNOWN I'VE BEEN COMING BEFORE YOU GUYS FOR 25 YEARS.

AND EVERY PROJECT I'VE EVER DONE ON THIS CORRIDOR, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO WIDEN THE ROAD.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES TAKEN ALL THE EXISTING AND ALL THE KNOWN PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING UP.

WE DO HAVE WATER AND SEWER CONCURRENCY.

WE DO HAVE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT IN OVERSIZING, THE WATER AND SEWER LINES AND THE LIFT STATION FOR THESE FUTURE PHASES. THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

WE DO HAVE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY APPROVED FOR IT.

THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL CREATE GAPS.

WHEREAS MR. BATTEN DESCRIBED THE ROUNDABOUTS THAT TYPICALLY HAS A CONTINUOUS FLOW AND DOESN'T CREATE THOSE GAPS.

SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS.

WE DID WORK WITH THE CITY ON A TEMPORARY AND A PERMANENT FIRE STATION SITE JUST WEST OF HERE.

I KNOW SOMETHING MR. JOHNSON BROUGHT UP IN OUR PREVIOUS HEARING AS WELL.

WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME UNIT COUNT, MINUS ONE OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.

I MENTIONED THE MINUS ONE BECAUSE WE REMOVED ONE SO THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT FUTURE ACCESS TO THE SOUTHEAST WHEN THAT PARKWAY DOES HOPEFULLY COME THROUGH.

EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE ASKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC AND THIS COUNCIL.

IN 2013 AND 2014, WE WORKED WITH STAFF.

WE WENT THROUGH ITERATION AFTER ITERATION, CONCEPT AFTER CONCEPT.

THIS PROJECT WAS ACTUALLY ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2006 WITH A SINGLE ACCESS POINT.

SOME OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS PUT IN PLACE AND WHEN THE ECONOMY DOWNTURN HAPPENED, NOT ONE HOME EVER STARTED TO GO VERTICAL.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS BEST THEN AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS BEST.

WE DID WORK WITH MALABAR LAKES WEST OF US TO LOOK AT CONNECTING A ROADWAY TO THEM, SO THAT KNOWING WE WOULD HAVE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, THEY COULD COME TO OUR TRAFFIC SIGNAL. WE OFFERED TO EXTEND UTILITIES TO THEM.

THEY HAVE WATER, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE SEWER.

THEY'RE ON SEPTIC.

DIDN'T WORK OUT. THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT.

SO WE'VE TRIED EVERYTHING WE COULD DO BACK THEN TO COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION.

IF YOU LOOK AT BRENTWOOD LAKES JUST TO THE EAST OF US, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT UNIT COUNT.

PRETTY HIGH NUMBER WITH ONE ACCESS WITH ONE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS DETERMINED WAS BEST FOR THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME.

CAN WE GO BACK IN TIME TEN YEARS LATER AND REALIZE MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT? WE CAN'T. WE CAN LOOK AT IT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WAS BUILT AND THIS WAS WHAT WE DID TO GET TO THIS POINT.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR IS BASICALLY THE EXACT SAME MASTER PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO BE ABLE TO JUST BUILD THEIR NEXT FEW PHASES.

AND AGAIN, IT WILL TAKE YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS TO BUILD THAT OUT.

LIKE, IT'S TAKEN US TEN YEARS TO GET THROUGH THE FIRST THREE PHASES.

SO WITH THAT SAID, LET'S SEE.

JUST MAKE SURE I HIT ALL THE NOTES THERE.

AND THE TEMPORARY OFFICERS WAS A UNIQUE IDEA.

I HADN'T HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE.

I THINK I THINK I HIT ALL THE POINTS, AND THEN I KNOW MR. BOSANKO WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL AGAIN, AS MR. WEISS HAS SAID, THE OWNER HAS PAID FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WITH UPSIZING UTILITIES PAYING FOR THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THEY HAVE INVESTED FOR THIS PROJECT.

THEY'VE INVESTED 11 YEARS IN THIS PROJECT.

THE THE UNIT COUNT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2014, MINUS THE ONE.

AS MISS SMITH STATED WHEN WE WERE HERE LAST TIME, THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE.

AS LONG AS THE PLATS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THESE THREE PRELIMINARY PLOTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

THAT'S THE EVIDENCE YOU'VE HEARD TODAY.

I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT THESE PRELIMINARY PLATS, THESE UNITS, ARE VESTED UNDER YOUR OLD LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE NEW NUMBER IS, BUT I KNOW THE LANGUAGE IS VERY SIMILAR.

183 .01 JAY STATES THE CITY RECOGNIZES THE RIGHT OF ANY PERSON TO COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING DEVELOPMENT NUMBER C

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PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL AND PRELIMINARY PUD APPROVAL, PROVIDED THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS SECURED A PERMIT TO CONSTRUCT ALL OR ANY PHASE OF SUCH DEVELOPMENT IS IN CONTINUING THE DEVELOPMENT IN GOOD FAITH, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS DONE OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS.

THEY'VE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED TEN YEARS AGO, AND THEY HAVE EXPENDED MONEY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THESE PRELIMINARY PLATS FOR PHASE FOUR B, FIVE A AND FIVE B.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

OKAY. I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING COUNCIL FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION A SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

COUNCILMAN YEAH.

SO WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.

ALMOST EVERYBODY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE RAN.

MOST OF US HERE RAN ON IMPROVING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THAT'S 100% CORRECT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO BE MOVING FORWARD ON.

JUST FOR OUR INCOMING CITY MANAGER TO, TO UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, I DO THINK WE'RE REALLY BEHIND ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT'S THE MAIN THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE'S UPSET ABOUT FROM EVERY END.

EVERY END HERE. SO WE'RE BEHIND.

WE NEED TO GET BEHIND OR WE NEED TO GET CAUGHT UP.

AND THEN WE ALSO NEED TO START LOOKING AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IN THESE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.

HOWEVER WHAT WE'RE HERE TO VOTE FOR TODAY IS EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF LEEWAY HERE.

THE DEVELOPER HAS GONE THROUGH ALL THE RIGHT CHANNELS.

THEY HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS, THEY OWN THE PROPERTY.

THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING CORRECT.

SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE LEEWAY TO VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IT'S KIND OF WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT WE AS A CITY NEED TO GO FORWARD AND START LOOKING AT THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE RAN ON, SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DO IMMEDIATELY.

AND SO I DO JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, OUR INCOMING CITY MANAGER TO UNDERSTAND, I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY OUR CITY'S NUMBER ONE PRIORITY, THAT WE NEED TO START GETTING CAUGHT UP ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.

ONCE THAT'S CAUGHT UP, YOU MIGHT ONLY BE WITH US A FEW MONTHS, SO MAYBE YOU COULD JUST START HELPING US CATCH UP.

BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN.

BUT THAT ALSO DOESN'T IMPACT, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THEM.

SO, YOU KNOW, I AM TO BE A YES VOTE.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

BUT ON THE SAME TOKEN, WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

I REALLY COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT ANY BETTER THAN MR. LANGEVIN. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO COMMENT.

OKAY. ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS BEFORE.

ALL RIGHT. JUST AS THE GENTLEMEN WERE SAYING, THIS IS MORE OF A WHICH IS WHY PREVIOUSLY COUNCILS CONSIDERED MORATORIUMS. SO THAT WAY YOU STOP IT EARLY ON BEFORE IT GETS TO THIS POINT.

BUT THIS IS ALREADY HERE BEFORE US.

IT'S ALREADY BEEN PHASED TO THIS POINT.

SO I WILL BE APPROVING IT.

BUT I DO WANT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR MR. MORGAN'S TAKE ON A MORATORIUM AS IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED WITH PREVIOUS COUNCIL, AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'M BRINGING IT UP WITH THIS COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S ALL.

MAYOR. COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

I WILL SAY THIS.

AS OF 2014, WE HAVE ALMOST 40,000 MORE PEOPLE HERE SINCE THEN.

I DO FEEL THIS IS BRINGING A HUGE LIABILITY AND A HUGE ISSUE TO IT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

I DO NOT SUPPORT IT, AND I DON'T THINK OUR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE CAN SUSTAIN THE GROWTH RIGHT NOW.

I WOULD LIKE TO TO GET SOMETHING TO WHERE IT DOES NOT START CONSTRUCTION UNTIL IT'S FOUR LANE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION.

MADAM ATTORNEY.

AT THIS POINT, ALL YOU ALL ARE APPROVING IS THIS PRELIMINARY PLAT.

THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING.

SO CERTAINLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT WHAT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE YOU HAVE, WHAT ARE THE TESTIMONY OF THE EXPERTS, INCLUDING CITY STAFF, THAT ARE SAYING THAT THIS PLAT, YOU KNOW, THE ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS LOT LINES, EASEMENTS, ROADS, IT'S COMPLIANT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

SO AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HAVE ANY COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT SAYS IT'S NOT, YOU THEN MUST APPROVE.

CERTAINLY OTHER THINGS THAT WE COUNSEL COUNCIL MAY WANT TO DISCUSS SEPARATELY AND APART FROM THIS PARTICULAR HEARING AND THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, AS FAR AS HOW

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CERTAINLY LEGAL AND MANAGEMENT WILL GET INVOLVED AND WILL DISCUSS IT WITH COUNCIL, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S APPLICABLE TO THIS HEARING.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE KEEPING THE RECORD CLEAR AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE VOTING ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.

BUT I DO HEAR YOU COUNCILMAN.

IS THAT IS THAT GOOD? OKAY. SO IT'S TEED UP TO ME.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'M I'M VERY FORTUNATE BECAUSE I VOTE NO.

I VOTED NO, AND I'M CONSISTENT IN VOTING THAT NO.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS AND I WANT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I SIGNED DOCUMENTS.

I MAY BE OUTVOTED, BUT PART OF MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO SIGN THOSE ORDINANCE OR THOSE RESOLUTIONS AND THOSE PLATS, WHETHER I AGREE WITH IT OR NOT.

I HONOR THE VOTE ON THIS COUNCIL AND I MOVE FORWARD IN THAT.

SO I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

NAY. NAY.

PASSES 3 TO 2.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

OH, AS YOU WERE BEFORE.

WE GO TO ITEM THREE, LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ATTENTION TO DETAIL.

SETTLE DOWN PLEASE.

A12. ONE, TWO.

OKAY, WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE.

GOOD EVENING. DAVID BASFORD, THE ENGINEER OF RECORD, MBB ENGINEERING, 1250 WEST EAU GALLIE BOULEVARD, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.

32935. NO FORMAL PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT ITEM NUMBER THREE AND A PORTION OF ITEM NUMBER FOUR ARE ADMINISTRATIVE.

WE'VE ALREADY COME BEFORE COUNCIL.

IF I'M MEMORY SERVES CORRECTLY, THREE TIMES.

FOR THE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

CONSTRUCTION PLANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND ESTIMATE ABOUT 9,095% COMPLETE.

SO FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAN AS LIKE I SAID, AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S MORE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE CLEANUP TYPE OF AN ISSUE.

THE PRIMARY THING IN ITEM NUMBER FOUR, NOT TRYING TO JUMP AHEAD IS THE FINAL PLOT, SO I'LL RESERVE ANY REMAINING TIME TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND OR REBUT.

OKAY, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT? ANY QUESTIONS? I DO.

OKAY. COUNCILOR HAMMOND, I ASKED A QUESTION EARLIER.

IS THERE ANY KIND OF ANY KIND OF WATER MANAGEMENT ISSUES IN THAT AREA THAT THIS MIGHT INFLICT? BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE ISSUES GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

I WANT TO SEE IF THIS IS GOING TO INFLICT ANY OF THOSE.

YEAH. QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

WELL, OKAY.

TO THEM AND THEN ASK HIM TO ADDRESS IT.

PERHAPS WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO THAT FIRST.

OKAY. THEN WE'LL HAVE STAFF.

WHEN YOU SAY WATER MANAGEMENT AND WHAT? RESPECT PERMITTING.

WELL, I KNOW, I KNOW ORIGINALLY THAT AREA WAS THE WATERSHED FOR ALL OF PORT MALABAR, FOR THE AREA THERE, ESPECIALLY MEADOWBROOK, THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES ON MEADOWBROOK.

I'M SEEING DOES THIS IS THIS ANY PART OF THAT AT ALL? NOT PART OF MEADOWBROOK? NO, SIR. THE THE GOOD MAJORITY OF PORT MALABAR.

AND THERE'S A PORTION OF RIVIERA THAT DOES GET ACCEPTED BY THIS PROJECT, BUT PORT MALABAR EITHER FLOWS TO THE EAST OR TO THE NORTH THROUGH THE MELBOURNE TUNNEL AND CANALS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

MR. ROBINSON.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S THERE'S ANYTHING FOR STAFF TO RESPOND PERTAINING TO THAT PARTICULAR WATERSHED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. ANY.

YES, SIR. WASN'T THIS PROJECT UNDER A DIFFERENT OWNERSHIP PRIOR? YES, SIR.

YEAH. SCOTT BUSTIN FOR LANDSEA HOMES.

I'M THE LAND DEVELOPMENT MANAGER ON THE PROJECT.

YEAH. THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT UP IN FRONT OF THE CITY BY VINTAGE ESTATE HOMES, WHICH WAS THE OLD MERCEDES HOMES, A

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AND ARE YOU GOING WITH THE EXACT SAME PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED PRIOR? ABSOLUTELY. 199 LOTS.

NOTHING'S CHANGED.

OKAY. CAN STAFF SPEAK TO THAT TOO? ALL RIGHT. I'LL BRING UP OUR OUR GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, LISA FRASER.

GO AHEAD, SIR. HAVE A SEAT.

WE'RE BRINGING STAFF UP.

WELL. AS YOU'RE COMING UP, MISS FRAZIER, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP.

WE, YOU KNOW, WE SEE A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP SOMETIMES.

I KNOW YOU MORE SO THAN ANYBODY IN YOUR TENURE.

SO MY CONCERNS ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE VARIATION OF THE PROJECTS.

IT'S ONE THING IF IT'S JUST.

THIS IS WHAT IT IS.

SO I JUST WANT TO ASK, DID YOU WITH WORKING WITH STAFF, WITH WORKING WITH THEM, HAVE YOU DID YOU SEE ANY CHANGES, ANY DEVIATIONS? AND IF SO HOW HOW ARE THEY BEING ADDRESSED? SO I'LL START WITH THAT.

THANK YOU. AND I HOPE I BROUGHT UP THE CORRECT PAPERWORK BECAUSE I HAD NOTES.

WHAT WE DO THIS THIS TO HELP ALL OF YOU UNDERSTAND AGAIN, IS THAT THIS WAS ALL APPROVED IN 2021.

SO THE WHOLE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS APPROVED.

THEN WHEN THAT HAPPENS OR WHEN THEY START CONSTRUCTION, THEY HAVE TO GET.

I'M GOING TO ANSWER MAYBE THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT QUESTION FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN HAMMER, THAT WE THEY HAVE TO GET PERMITTING FROM SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THEN THE DISCHARGE INTO THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN YOU PROBABLY KNOW ALL OF THIS.

THEY HAVE TO OF COURSE COORDINATE WITH THEM.

THE, THE THE THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT MAY BE OCCURRING NOW, I BELIEVE, ARE RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, WE DID NOT SEE ANY CHANGES FROM THE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL PLAT.

IN FACT, TANYA RAMOS IS OUR PRINCIPAL PLANNER, AND SHE DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THE OLD LASERFICHE RECORDS THAT ARE NOT IN IMS AND MADE SURE THAT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN WERE MET FOR THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND IN THIS FINAL PLAT.

SO WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT NOTHING WAS CHANGED IN THAT MANNER.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? NO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WE'RE ON SPEAKER CARDS.

BILL. BATTEN. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I ATTENDED LAST NIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

LIKE I TRY TO BE INVOLVED, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I AM.

AND IT WAS VERY FRUSTRATING TO WATCH WHAT THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS WERE HAVING TO DEAL WITH, TO FIND THAT THERE'S NO RECOURSE THAT THEY COULD ACTUALLY TAKE.

BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOUR PREVIOUS ITEM, NUMBER TWO, THIS IS ALSO A SUBDIVISION PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH MEANS CERTAIN STEPS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MET.

SO NOW THERE'S A LEGAL BIND THAT YOU HAVE YOU'RE KIND OF STUCK ON WITH.

SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS IS THE PROCESS BY HOW WE GET WHERE WE ARE.

AND I'M GOING TO SUSAN CONLEY MADE THE STATEMENT OF A CUMULATIVE EFFECT.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FACING NOW.

BECAUSE IF THIS STARTED IN 20 2013, 2015 WAS WHEN THIS PROJECT STARTED.

WE ARE NOW 2024 AND THEY'VE STARTED CLEARING THE LAND AND CLEARING IT AND BUILDING AROUND.

THE RESIDENTS ARE THERE. THE EFFECT IS SEVERE TO WHAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING NOW.

WHEN IT WAS JUST A LOW POPULATION, IT WASN'T A PROBLEM.

NOW 2024, THERE'S A MAJOR PROBLEM COMING INTO INTO PLAY.

SO THE REASON WHY I'M ADDRESSING THAT WAS IT WAS IN 2021 WHEN THE RESIDENTS HAD A CHANCE TO ADDRESS IT.

AND NOW THIS WAS JUST A PROCEDURAL VOTE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COME FOR AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY MINOR VIOLATIONS.

AND OF COURSE, THERE WASN'T, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET ACCEPTED.

BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PROCESS.

IF IT'S TAKEN THIS MANY YEARS, WE DIDN'T SEE WHERE WE WERE GOING TO BE WHEN ALL THIS WAS PRESENTED.

SO IT'S A STATEMENT OF LET'S STOP HAVING PHASE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN.

THAT TAKES 40 YEARS TO DO, WHEN WE COULD BE LOOKING AT EACH PHASE INDIVIDUALLY TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.

SLOW IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

AND THAT'S ONE WAY MECHANISM BY WHICH YOU COULD DO THAT.

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IF YOU NEVER CHANGE THE ZONING BECAUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT'S IN YOUR COMP PLAN, YOU'RE NOT VIOLATING A SINGLE LAW.

YOU'RE NOT ELIMINATING ANYTHING.

YOU'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING TO A LAWSUIT.

IT WILL GIVE THE LANDOWNER LANDOWNERS RIGHTS BECAUSE THEY BOUGHT THE LAND KNOWING WHAT THEY BOUGHT AND THEY KNEW THAT.

AND SO THEY CAN STILL DEVELOP IT.

JUST LIKE THE BAYSIDE LAKES GOLF COURSE, IT COULD STILL BE DEVELOPED WITH THE HOUSES THAT THEY WANT TO PUT ON THEM, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT ONE HOUSE PER FIVE ACRES.

SO THERE YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT PISSING ANYBODY OFF.

YOU'RE NOT VIOLATING ANYBODY'S LAWS.

YOU'RE ACCOMPLISHING ALL KINDS OF OBJECTIVES.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PEOPLE IN THIS HEARING, NUMBER THREE, THEY'RE KIND OF LOCKED OUT NOW BECAUSE IT'S TOO LATE.

THE HORSE HAS ALREADY LEFT THE BARN AND THAT POOR THING MADE IT TO THE SLAUGHTER HOUSE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBERT SACHSE.

CHIEF STICE, I DON'T KNOW, HE CALLED ROBERT STICE.

OKAY. I HAVE ROBERT SACHSE, 1796 WINBURN DRIVE SOUTHEAST.

SO WHEN A NEW BOARD CAME IN, I'M STILL SHOCKED BY THE TOTAL LACK OF PROFESSIONALISM.

WHEN THE NEW BOARD CAME IN, THE FIRST THING THAT THEY DID AT THE END OF THE MEETING THAT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA, NEVER THINKING ABOUT REPERCUSSIONS, JUST SUMMARILY FIRED THE CITY MANAGEMENT.

ONE OF THE MORE PRACTICAL THINGS TO DO, AND I'VE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS, WAS TO TALK TO ONE OF YOUR PEERS AND MAYBE THE WAY TO APPROACH THIS, TO SAY TO THE CITY MANAGER THAT WE'VE DECIDED TO GO IN ANOTHER DIRECTION, SIR.

MR. CHIEF.

MR. STITES, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

IT'S A QUASI-JUDICIAL.

IT'S REGARDING.

I BEG YOUR PARDON? MR. MAYOR I DIDN'T HEAR THAT CLEARLY.

I WILL SAY, WHAT'S BEEN ECHOING HERE ALL NIGHT LONG IS YOU GOT TO STOP BUILDING.

I MEAN, WE WE MAY THINK WE'RE THE GREATEST CITY IN THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

YOU CAN'T GET AROUND.

THE SCHOOLS ARE CROWDED.

THE. I JUST SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.

WE SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? I MEAN, IS EVERYBODY GOING OUT AND VISITING, VISIBLY LOOKING AT THE AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT? ARE YOU GOING OUT IN YOUR CARS LOOKING AT THAT? IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU SHOULD BE THAT.

DID YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS THAT I TOOK ABOUT THE FIVE HUGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS GOING ON IN A TWO LANE ROAD? YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT.

WHERE DO WE STOP? INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT JUST ROADS.

IF THE POLICE CAN'T GET TO YOU, THE FIREMEN CAN'T GET TO YOU.

SHOPPING IS A BITCH.

EXCUSE MY FRENCH.

I MEAN, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO LIVE HERE? IT'S BECOMING NEGATIVE TO LIVE HERE.

AND WHAT WE DO IS, LIKE MY WIFE AND I COME OUT OF THE GATE, WE MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND WE'RE UP IN MELBOURNE.

GIVE US THE REASON TO STAY, IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

I APOLOGIZE, MR. MAYOR.

NO WORRIES SIR. DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE SPEAKER CARDS? SEVERAL. NEXT SPEAKER IS JANE HOLSTEIN.

SORRY. JANE HOLSTEIN, 1035 RIVIERA DRIVE, NORTHEAST.

PALM BAY. MY CONCERNS STARTED LAST NIGHT, AND.

WELL, THE CONCERN STARTED AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THE ATTORNEY THAT WAS THERE KEPT TELLING THE P AND Z PEOPLE THEY COULDN'T THEY COULD NOT VOTE THIS DOWN. THEY HAD TO SEND IT TO THE COUNCIL APPROVED BECAUSE IT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

AND I SAID, WHOA, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG HERE WITH THE WORDS PRELIMINARY.

AND I SEE IT HERE TOO.

IT SAYS PRELIMINARY.

AND THEN RIGHT UNDER IT, IT SAYS FINAL.

WELL, IF WE'RE DOING PRELIMINARY, THAT MEANS WE WE CAN'T FINAL IT.

ANYHOW, WHAT STARTED MY CONCERN WITH THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

I HAVE WATCHED TRUCKS GO UP AND DOWN RIVIERA.

THEY TORE UP THE STREET.

SO NOW WE HAVE A NEW STREET.

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WE HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT WATER AND SEWER BEING HOOKED UP TO 199 MORE HOUSES.

THAT'S A REAL CONCERN.

MY WATER PRESSURE HAS DROPPED CONSIDERABLY SINCE THE LAST TIME THEY WORKED ON THE WATER LINE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU, EXCEPT WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR 199 HOUSES ON RIVIERA.

NOW, LAST NIGHT THE BUILDER DID SAY THAT THE THE CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION GUY SAID THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANOTHER EXIT OUT ON.

LET ME LOOK AGAIN.

OUT ON COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE.

YEAH. I HEAR HIM SAYING COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE, BUT I KNOW WHERE THE ONE ON RIVIERA IS.

AS IT IS NOW, THEY'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST BIMINI BAY ON ON THEIR EAST END, BIMINI BAY.

PEOPLE WERE HERE LAST NIGHT SAYING THEY PROMISED US A FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND OUR PROPERTY, AND APPARENTLY THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE.

I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY WOULD HAVE DONE TO KEEP ALL THAT DUST OUT OF EVERYTHING.

AND I KNOW FOR SURE IT USED TO BE WHERE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS.

WELL, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE 42 YEARS AGO, WE HAD JUST GONE OVER 25,000 PEOPLE AND THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PEOPLE WERE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S ONE REASON WE BOUGHT HERE.

HOWEVER, WE BOUGHT OUR FIRST GENERAL DEVELOPMENT LOT IN 1970 WHEN WE WERE IN TOPEKA, KANSAS, AND REALIZED THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS WERE SOLD TO MILITARY PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE THE EASIEST TO SELL TO.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

I THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE JUST DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR 199 MORE HOUSES.

THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNTRY CLUB.

THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT THANK YOU, MA'AM.

OKAY. WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR HER.

YES, BECAUSE SHE MENTIONED THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT MADE FOR A FENCE WITH BIMINI BAY.

WAS THAT THIS APPLICANT OR THE PREVIOUS APPLICANT? I HAVE NO IDEA.

I JUST KNOW THAT ONE OF THE CITIZENS SAID THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE, AND IT DIDN'T GET DONE LAST NIGHT AT THE PNC MEETING.

OKAY. IF SOMEBODY COULD.

YEAH, WE CAN GET AN ANSWER TO THAT.

WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK.

I WAS GOING TO COME IN THE REBUTTAL.

YES, SIR. DID I HEAR YOU SAY WE DON'T HAVE A CITY? THANK YOU. MAYOR. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS CHRIS ROSS.

WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT THOSE QUESTIONS.

HELLO. MY NAME IS CHRIS ROSS.

696 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.

RECENTLY, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO, I PASSED MY REAL ESTATE EXAM.

IN THAT STUDYING AND EVERYTHING, I FOUND OUT THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BILL OF RIGHTS.

ON THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER WEBSITE, IT DOES SAY THE PROPERTY OWNER BILL OF RIGHTS POSTED PER FLORIDA STATUTE 7270 .002. THE FIRST TWO THE RIGHT TO ACQUIRE, POSSESS AND PROTECT YOUR PROPERTY.

THE SECOND, THE RIGHT TO USE AND ENJOY YOUR PROPERTY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT I AM NOT ENJOYING MY PROPERTY BECAUSE DURING HEAVY RAINS, HALF OF IT IS UNDERWATER.

IT WAS NOT LIKE THAT.

MY LAWN GUY SAID FOR TEN YEARS HE'S BEEN MOWING MY YARD.

I'VE ONLY LIVED THERE FOR TWO.

HE SAID HE'S NEVER SEEN IT LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

I UNDERSTAND TONIGHT IS ABOUT A PLAT MAP.

I LOOKED IT UP LAST NIGHT.

PLAT MAPS DO NOT ACCOUNT FOR ELEVATION, BUT PLAT MAPS DO INCLUDE FOR DRAINAGE INFORMATION EASEMENTS.

THE SUBDIVISION PLAT DESIGN DESIGNATES AND DEPICTS NECESSARY EASEMENTS FOR UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND ACCESS AND OTHER PURPOSES.

SO. IT BECAME EVIDENT LAST NIGHT THAT THERE'S LIMITED OVERSIGHT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE EFFECTS THAT IT HAS ON THE EXISTING NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.

IF ANYONE WOULD HAVE TAKEN A TRIP AROUND THE PERIMETER AFTER THE HURRICANE THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER STANDING IN EXISTING YARDS WHERE IT HAD NOT BEEN BEFORE.

MY AGAIN, MY LAWN MAN SAID IT HASN'T BEEN THAT WAY IN TEN YEARS.

LAST NIGHT IT WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DIRT THAT WAS BEING USED IN THE PROJECT.

AND IT WAS STATED THAT THE DIRT WAS USED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ELEVATIONS MET.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY BACKYARD AT 696 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ELEVATION IS 2 TO 3FT.

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YEAH. TWO HOUSES TO THE SOUTH OF ME.

THE DIFFERENCE IS ALMOST FOUR FEET TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS SITTING ON HIS COUCH DISCUSSING THINGS WITH HIM, LOOKING AT HIS BACKYARD.

WE COULD SEE THE TOP HALF OF THE TIRE OF THE THING GO OF THE DUMP TRUCK GOING BY.

I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO I'D BETTER JUMP SOME STUFF.

RAPID, BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE WATER JUST RUNS THROUGH.

LUCKILY, IT HASN'T FLOODED MY HOUSE YET, BUT IT FLOODS THROUGH BOTH SIDES, AND IT'S LITERALLY A RUNNING WATER.

NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH OF ME HAVE HAD THE WATER SO HIGH THAT IT GOES OVER THE TEMPORARY FENCE, AND WATER STANDS IN MY YARD FOR SO LONG THAT SANDHILL CRANES COME TO EAT THE PESTS THAT ARE STANDING IN THE OR THAT ARE IN THE WATER.

AND ALL I'M HERE IS TO HOPING THAT THE OVERSIGHT THAT MAY BE.

THANK YOU, SIR, THAT I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AND I.

YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE PICTURES OF, LIKE, MY PROPERTY IN THE SAND HILL, CRANES AND STUFF.

YEAH. SO YOU LIVE. YOU LIVE AT 696 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.

YEAH. AND.

OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

AND AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT THUS FAR IS CREATING MORE WATER TOWARDS YOUR PROPERTY? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT THE WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HOW HE'S GOING TO RESPOND.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD.

HE EXPLAINS TO ME LAST NIGHT THAT THERE'S LIKE A LITTLE BERM, BUT THE WATER COMES THROUGH AND JUST MADE IT A LITTLE LIKE A WASH THERE.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, KYLE GREEN.

THIS IS WHAT'S HIS NAME? CHRIS. GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KYLE GREEN. I LIVE AT 530 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD NORTHEAST.

THE WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS EVENING IS EXACTLY THAT.

WASTEWATER RUNOFF AND FLOODING AND DRAINAGE ISSUES.

SO MY HOUSE TRADITIONALLY I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE 2018.

HAVING TALKED TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER AND NEIGHBORS TRADITIONALLY HAS NEVER FLOODED.

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF HIGH GROUND.

BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION, I ESSENTIALLY HAD A SMALL GULLY IN THE BACK AND THEN FLAT RUNOFF INTO WHAT WOULD BE FAIR GROUND GREENS.

SINCE CONSTRUCTION HAS BEGUN, I HAVE AN APPROXIMATELY FOUR FOOT ELEVATED DIRT CLIFF BEHIND MY HOUSE WITH A SILT FENCE THAT ONLY GOES ABOUT TWO FEET UP.

THEREFORE, ANY DUST DURING THE CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY CAME STRAIGHT OVER AND IMPACTED OUR HOUSES DURING HEAVY STORMS. NOT TO ONLY INCLUDE THE HURRICANE BACK IN OCTOBER, BUT ALSO THE EFFECTS OF HURRICANES IN SEPTEMBER, ALONG WITH LARGE RAINSTORMS. BACK IN JANUARY, WE DID EXPERIENCE FLOODING ACROSS MY HOUSE AND MY NEIGHBORS.

NOW, MY HOUSE WAS NOT IMMEDIATELY FROM A STRUCTURE STANDPOINT IMPACTED.

HOWEVER, MY YARDS DID FULLY FLOOD TO WHERE I HAD APPROXIMATELY THREE INCHES OF STANDING WATER ACROSS MY ENTIRE YARD.

MY NEIGHBOR, HOWEVER IT ACTUALLY DID GET INTO HER HOUSE AND ENDED UP BACKING UP HER DRAINAGE.

I BELIEVE SHE DID SEND YOU A LETTER IN EITHER YESTERDAY OR THIS MORNING.

SO COMING OUT OF LAST NIGHT, IT WAS SAID THAT MORE OR LESS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESSING PLANS SURVEYS WERE BASICALLY DONE TO BRING THE ELEVATION UP TO WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND LEVEL WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THAT'S NOT DONE AS HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.

SEVERAL OF US HAVE ABOUT A FOUR FOOT MOUND CLIFF BEHIND OUR HOUSES.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER, JUDY RANDALL.

AT THIS. KYLE.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M JUDY CRANDALL.

SEVEN, FIVE, ONE PEBBLE BEACH AVENUE NORTHEAST.

AND PEBBLE BEACH BORDERS THE COUNTRY CLUB ESTATES.

I'VE LIVED THERE BEFORE.

IT WAS DEVELOPED INTO HOMES.

I WAS PART OF A GROUP THAT TRIED TO KEEP IT FROM BEING DEVELOPED.

BUT WHAT I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

I DON'T HAVE THE WATER ISSUES AS THESE OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE.

HOWEVER, I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE I LIKE TO DO DEEP DIVES INTO STUFF.

I RESEARCH STUFF AND I FOLLOW THE MONEY.

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BUT LANDSEA HOMES IS OWNED BY A COMMUNIST NATIONAL NAMED MING TIAN LINGZI. HOLMES HAS FOUR SUBDIVISIONS GOING IN PALM BAY.

THEY HAVE HEADQUARTERS IN CALIFORNIA AND IRVING, TEXAS.

THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SAME ADDRESSES AS MERCEDES HOMES AND VINTAGE ESTATES.

WHAT? LANDSEA HOMES DOES.

THEY BUY SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS, AND OF COURSE, A LAND OWNER CAN SELL TO WHOEVER HE CAN DISPOSE OF HIS LAND.

BUT MY CONCERN IS IT IS OWNED BY THE COMMUNIST CHINESE GOVERNMENT, AND WE ARE LESS THAN TWO AND A HALF MILES FROM THE SPACE FORCE ANNEX.

THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE LESS THAN FIVE MILES.

THEY WERE FOUR POINT SOMETHING MILES.

SO WE'RE WE'RE DEALING WITH A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT FROM HERE FORTH THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED, WHEN THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT OR A BUYER OR A BUILDER COMING IN OR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, THAT THERE IS A DISCLOSURE SIGNED THAT THEY ARE NOT A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

AND IF THEY ARE, THEY MUST STATE WHAT COUNTRY.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, THIS GOES.

I LOOKED AT THE GENEALOGY OF IT.

WE'RE INTO LIKE FIVE COMPANIES BEFORE YOU SEE LAND.

SEA ASSOCIATED WITH CHINA.

WUHAN, CHINA, OF ALL PLACES.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

AND I KNOW YOU'RE PATRIOTS UP THERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU. ROBERT GAMBLE.

WHILE HE COMES UP IS THERE.

MADAM ATTORNEY OR STAFF? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DO SOME TYPE OF DISCLOSURE LIKE THAT, MA'AM? ANY FOREIGN COUNTRIES? I KNOW THAT THERE WAS LEGISLATION THAT I BELIEVE WAS CHALLENGED AS FAR AS OWNERSHIP, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING I CAN LOOK INTO.

I CAN'T SPEAK ON THAT OFFHAND BECAUSE I DO.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE LEGISLATION IS AND WHAT RIGHTS THAT WOULD GIVE US.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU AT LEAST LOOK INTO THAT FOR US SO THAT WE COULD GET A REPORT ON THAT? THANK YOU. CARRY ON.

SIR? I'M ROBERT GAMBLE.

944 WALIA CIRCLE, PALM BAY.

I'D LIKE TO PAINT A PICTURE FOR YOU.

I DON'T I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE PEOPLE WERE REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT.

PICTURE THIS WHOLE ROOM FULL OF DUST.

ONLY THE CEILINGS.

ANOTHER 15 FOOT HIGH, 35 FOOT HIGH BY 100 FOOT WIDE.

NOW PICTURE THAT IN YOUR MIND.

THAT PLUS FOUR MORE OF THEM THAT WAY AND FOUR MORE OF THEM THAT WAY.

THAT'S WHAT IS BEHIND THIS HOUSE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.

IT'S NOT THE SAME DIRT THEY HAULED DIRT IN.

THEY HAULED DIRT OUT.

THEY HAULED DIRT IN.

THEY HAULED IT OUT FOR TWO YEARS.

THE DUST IS UNBELIEVABLE.

IN THAT SECTION, THE CARS ARE COVERED WITH DUST.

THE POOLS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO SWIM IN.

THE SCREEN ROOMS ARE FULL OF DUST, THICK.

IT'S WASHED.

AND THE NEXT MONTH IT'S FULL OF DUST.

I HAVE PICTURES HERE THAT I WANTED TO SHOW ON THOSE BIG SCREENS SO YOU'D ALL SEE THEM.

I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU EVEN LOOK AT ANY OF THEM.

THE TRUCKS ARE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES, THE TRUCKS BIGGER THAN TANDEMS. AND WHENEVER THEY GO AND I LOADED THE LOADER, LOADS THEM IN 3 OR 4.

THAT'S HOW BIG THE LOADER IS.

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AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE ARE ONE END OR THE OTHER, THEY GO RIGHT BEHIND THE HOUSE.

THEY HAVE NOT HAD A WATER TRUCK THERE FOR TWO MONTHS.

I TALKED TO THE GUY WHO I FINALLY FLAGGED ONE OF THE SUPERVISORS DOWN AND SAID, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THE DUST? OH, I'LL TRY AND GET ONE OF THE TRUCKS BACK HERE.

THAT'S WHERE IT ENDS.

ALWAYS. THEY WILL TRY AND GET SOMETHING BACK.

I ONLY HAVE A FEW SECONDS LEFT, SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PALM BAY ROAD IS THREE LANES GOING EAST AT PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW, WHENEVER YOU WANT TO TURN RIGHT, YOU HAVE ONE CAR THAT WANTS TO GO STRAIGHT.

IT'S NOT RIGHT.

ONLY THERE MIGHT BE ONLY TWO CARS IN THE SECOND LANE, ONE CAR OF THREE IN THE THIRD LANE, BUT ONE CAR IS IN THE FIRST LANE THAT YOU TURN RIGHT ON.

BEHIND THAT CAR IS MAYBE TEN CARS THAT WANT TO TURN RIGHT AND CAN'T.

WHENEVER THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS, IF IT GETS FINISHED, THINK ABOUT THAT.

YOU'RE NOT. YOU CANNOT MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN FOR FIVE MINUTES.

NOW THAT LIGHT IS A FIVE MINUTE LIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU SIR. AND JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ILLUSTRATIONS, WE HAVE PICTURES OF MOUNDS OF DIRT RIGHT AT THE ROOFTOPS AND STUFF.

SO WE DO HAVE ILLUSTRATIONS OF THAT.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS DEBBIE NEITHER.

MY NAME IS DEBBIE NISAR.

I LIVE AT 944 WYLIE EAST CIRCLE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.

WHEN I SPOKE THE LAST MEETING, I TOLD YOU ABOUT THE WINDOW, ROOF AND OTHER DAMAGES TO MY HOUSE FROM THE PROJECT.

THE TREE THAT WAS REMOVED FROM MY PROPERTY.

THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN.

THE INCREASED UTILITY COSTS DUE TO KEEPING THE WINDOWS CLOSED, OR NOT BEING ABLE TO HANG CLOTHES OUT ON THE LINE DUE TO THE DIRT AND THE DIRT IN MY SCREEN ROOM THAT SMELLS LIKE DIRT. YOU WALK OUT BACK, IT SMELLS LIKE DIRT.

SINCE THEN, THE DIRT BEHIND MY HOUSE HAS INCREASED AND IS INCREASING DAILY.

THE STREETS WHICH ARE IN LEADS ME TO BELIEVE FINAL GRADING HAS BEEN DONE.

WHAT IS BEHIND MY HOUSE IS UNACCEPTABLE.

THE LAND IS HIGHER THAN ON MY LOT, WITH MORE DUMPED ON TOP OF THAT.

AS I SIT AS IS, I SEE FLOODING NOT ONLY ON MY PROPERTY BUT ALSO MY NEIGHBORS.

PER LAST NIGHT'S PLANNING MEETING, THE ROAD SURVEY, AS I UNDERSTOOD IT, WAS CONDUCTED AROUND 2018 WITH 200 MORE HOUSES.

THAT'S AT LEAST 200 MORE CARS AND PROBABLY CLOSER TO 400.

ALSO WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THERE ARE WORSE CITIZEN INPUT MEETINGS IN 2020.

WHAT WASN'T MENTIONED WAS THE MEETINGS WERE SCHEDULED WITHOUT PROPER NOTICE DURING THE COVID SURGE AT NIGHT, TEN MILES AWAY FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE FEBRUARY 18TH MEETING TO BE HELD HERE WAS CANCELED AFTER I DROVE HERE DUE TO FLOODING.

THIS BUILDING WAS FLOODED.

I KNOW FLOODING COULDN'T BE HELPED, BUT IT JUST SEEMED LIKE CITIZEN INPUT WASN'T WELCOME.

ALSO, I WAS SHOCKED LAST NIGHT WHEN I HEARD FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT THE FENCING THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL PLANS HAS NOW NOT PART OF THE PLAN.

HOW CAN THEY ADVERTISE? PHASE FIVE IS A GATED COMMUNITY WITHOUT FENCING.

THE ADVISORY MEETING STARTED OFF BY VOTING ON NOT GRANTING THE APPROVAL.

LAST NIGHT IT WAS PROPOSED AND SECONDED WHEN THE CITY ATTORNEY TOLD THEM THEY WERE ONLY VOTING ON THE PLAT AND NOTHING ELSE.

AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION, THEY RELUCTANTLY APPROVED THE PLAT WITH SUGGESTIONS THAT COUNCIL PAY ATTENTION TO THE COMMUNITY INPUT, WHICH SEVERAL PEOPLE SAID YOU'LL NEVER HAVE ACCESS TO IT OR PROBABLY PAY ANY ATTENTION TO IT.

FOURTH, THIS HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE FOR US FOR TWO YEARS.

HOW MANY MORE YEARS IS THIS GOING TO GO ON? I KNOW OF TWO OTHER LARGER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE STARTED AFTER THIS ONE FINISHED, AND PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY LIVING IN THE HOUSES.

SHOULDN'T SOME SORT OF TIME RESTRICTIONS ON THIS PROJECT BE IMPLEMENTED.

AND LAST TO SUMMARIZE.

TO SUMMARIZE, MY CONCERNS ARE ABOUT MY PROPERTY DAMAGE, FLOODING, TRAFFIC, INFRASTRUCTURE SAFETY, INVASION OF PRIVACY, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ENJOY OUR BACKYARDS WITH THE ORIGINAL FENCING.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT SPEAKER IS HENRY WARDWELL.

THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

GOOD EVENING. TWO THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.

I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE TOO MANY CARS AND ALL THAT.

WHAT I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH IS WHEN I GO AROUND.

I LIVE AT 950 WYLIE CIRCLE.

I'M THIS LADY'S NEIGHBOR RIGHT HERE.

WE ARE AT THE EPICENTER OF THIS CONSTRUCTION.

WHEN I GO AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE AND MORE FOR SALE.

SIGNS ARE GOING UP. PEOPLE ARE THROWING UP THEIR HANDS SAYING, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS.

MY PROBLEM IS I'VE GOT 40 YEARS IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

I'VE BEEN A DEVELOPER.

I'VE BEEN A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE BIT.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT.

THIS PROJECT DOES NOT FIT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ARE CRACKER JACK SIZED HOUSES.

THEY CALL IT PHASE FIVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER LANDSEA DEVELOPMENTS, THEY'RE NOTHING LIKE THIS.

THEY'RE GATED COMMUNITIES WITH BIG FENCES.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S JUST ONE NOTCH ABOVE A SECTION EIGHT HOUSING IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.

WHAT IS THAT GOING TO DO TO OUR PROPERTY VALUES? IT'S GOING TO DRIVE THEM INTO THE TOILET.

I'M ASKING THAT THIS APPROVAL BE CONTINGENT UPON.

AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE PERIMETER.

I'M SPEAKING FOR THE EAST SIDE, WHERE WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BE CONTINGENT UPON A BARRIER FENCE, A VISUAL BARRIER FENCE, NOT ONLY FOR OUR PRIVACY, BUT FOR OUR LAND VALUE, THIS IS GOING TO BE LIKE GRADING.

IT'S LIKE TAKING A STUDENT AND A D STUDENT AND YOU'RE GOING TO COMBINE IT, EXCEPT YOU'RE GOING TO STILL WIND UP WITH THE D STUDENT WHO'S GOING TO BE A D.

BUT OUR PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE AN A, ARE NOW GOING TO BE A C PLUS OR A B MINUS.

IT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR PROPERTY VALUES TREMENDOUSLY.

ALL I'M ASKING IS IF WE HAVE A IS THERE GOING TO BE A BARRIER FENCE.

WE NEED IT. WE NEEDED IT TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THIS CONSTRUCTION STARTED.

AND WE NEED A BARRIER FENCE FOR TWO REASONS.

NOT JUST BECAUSE THE PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING TO GO DOWN, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS.

THEY HAVE OPERATED PAST THE HOURS THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

THEY'VE BEEN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, DUST.

THEY'VE USED HEAVY MACHINERY.

MY HOUSE HAS VIBRATED LIKE A HURRICANE AND A AND A EARTHQUAKE FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

I'VE GOT ANIMALS.

THEY'RE SCARED. I TAKE THEM TO THE VETS, THEY GET SICK.

TWO YEARS WORTH OF THIS GOING ON FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

AT LEAST I DON'T.

IF A FENCE GOES UP ANYTIME SOON, WHICH I HOPE IT WILL.

AT LEAST IT'LL TAKE THAT PROBLEM OUT.

I'M NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS PROJECT DOESN'T FIT INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

THESE ARE TINY LITTLE HOUSES IN AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A BAD FIT.

I MYSELF NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE THIS.

THIS IS ABOUT DEVELOPER GREED.

I'M SORRY. I GOT TO BE HONEST ABOUT IT.

THAT'S ALL IT IS. IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT THIS CAN BE CONTINGENT UPON A FENCE GOING UP, AT LEAST FOR SINGLE FAMILY PEOPLE, THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, LESS DENSE.

I THINK HE HAD A VERY GOOD POINT WHEN HE SAID, IT'S IT'S FIVE ACRE HOUSES.

IT WOULD SOLVE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM AND MAKE EVERYBODY A HAPPY NEIGHBOR.

AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PROPERTY VALUES THEN.

BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE PEOPLE JUST WALKING INTO MY BACKYARD, MY BACKYARD ALONE? THEY HAVE THREE HOUSES, ALMOST FOUR JUST ON MY PROPERTY LINE ALONE, AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO WALK RIGHT INTO MY BACKYARD.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER. THAT'S IT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW TO COME UP AND REBUT, SIR.

THERE'S A FEW.

WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, SIR? WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? HE DID FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

OKAY. OKAY.

DO YOU MEAN THREE? MR. WOOD, COME ON UP.

GO AHEAD AND JUST CHANGE THAT NUMBER, SIR.

FIRST OF ALL, WELCOME, GENTLEMEN.

YOU NEW ONES. AND THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

MY NAME IS RUSS WOOD.

I LIVE AT NINE, EIGHT, SIX WYLIE CIRCLE IN PALM BAY.

AND I'M THE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE PORT MALABAR COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE FOUGHT THIS BATTLE FOR PROBABLY 10 TO 12 YEARS, AND IT'S.

THIS SEEMS TO BE NEVER ENDING.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS ALL OVER WHEN THE APPROVAL WAS MADE ON THE FIRST HALF OF THIS PROJECT, WHERE THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO BUILD 400 TO $500,000 HOMES WITH THREE CAR GARAGES ON 80 BY 125 LOTS.

LIKE EVERYTHING WAS AGREED UPON, NOW, ALL AT ONCE WE GET A FLIER IN THE MAIL SAYING, FORGET

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WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH THIS OVER TO 1600 SQUARE FOOT CRACKER BOXES.

IT REMINDS ME OF THE DAYS OF GENERAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUILD A BUNCH OF CRAP IN A TRACT HOUSE SETTING AND PUT THEM BEHIND OUR HOUSES WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A LUXURY HOME BEHIND US. I'LL TAKE MY OUR HOUSE FOR EXAMPLE.

WE BLEW IT ON HOLE NUMBER THREE OF THE GOLD GOLF COURSE FOR 33 YEARS.

WE PUT $250,000 INTO THAT HOUSE.

WE'VE IMPROVED IT COMPLETELY THROUGHOUT.

NOW, WE WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A $500,000 HOUSE IN OUR BACKYARD.

NOW WE FIND OUT THAT WE'VE GOT A 1600 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE IN OUR BACKYARD.

THAT WOULD DEPRECIATE THE VALUE TREMENDOUSLY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'VE GOT TRACT HOUSES BEHIND YOU AND YOU'RE LIVING IN A HALFWAY LUXURIOUS SETTING YOUR VALUE IS GOING TO GO DOWN IF YOU'VE GOT SOME JUNK BEHIND YOU INSTEAD OF A PALACE BEHIND YOU.

SO MY MY ARGUMENT IS, IF WE WERE ALL UNDER THE SAME IMPRESSION THAT ALL THE HOUSES WERE GOING TO BE THE SAME WHEN THIS WAS ALL APPROVED YEARS AGO HOW DO WE GET AWAY WITH CUTTING THE PRICE DOWN TO THE SIZE OF THE HOMES, DOWN TO 1600 SQUARE FEET AND RUINING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? BY THE WAY, WE STILL HAVE THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM IN OUR BACKYARD.

WE STILL HAVE THE DIRT AND DUST IN OUR BACKYARD AND IN OUR PATIO AND IN OUR OUTDOOR KITCHEN.

AND THIS HAS BEEN AGGRAVATING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG AND STILL NOT COMPLETE, AND STILL NOW HASN'T EVEN STARTED ON OUR HALF THE GOLF COURSE.

SO I'M HOPING THAT YOU'LL DENY WHATEVER THEY'RE APPLYING FOR RIGHT NOW AND AND WE'LL WORK SOMETHING OUT.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

NEXT SPEAKER. OKAY, SO SO NOW YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I'M HOPING YOU TOOK SOME NOTES THERE.

BUT LET ME JUST ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU REBUT.

THE COUNTRY CLUB ENTRANCE AND EXIT.

YES, SIR. TO THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT, IN FACT, GOING TO HAPPEN, OR IS IT JUST ONTO.

IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

SORRY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. CARRY ON.

INTERRUPT. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION CURRENTLY, BUT THE UTILITIES AREN'T IN YET, SO THAT HASN'T ACTUALLY BEEN CONNECTED YET.

OKAY. AND THEN THE THE THE FENCE.

WAS IT THE PREVIOUS OWNER THAT PROMISED THE FENCE THAT NEVER MATERIALIZED? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN THE SAME OWNER THROUGHOUT? THERE'S BEEN A NAME CHANGE, AS HE INTIMATED EARLIER, WHERE THEY'VE BEEN PURCHASED OR SOLD OFF.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THOSE DEALINGS.

THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT A FENCE THAT WOULD HAVE ABUTTED BIMINI BAY.

A GENTLEMAN TONIGHT, HE DIDN'T COME UP HERE AND SPEAK.

I THINK HE LEFT DURING SOME OF THE OTHER PROCEEDINGS.

HADN'T SHOWN ME AN EMAIL.

THAT EMAIL, ACTUALLY, IN BOTH PLACES THAT HE HIGHLIGHTED, SAID THAT THE OWNER WAS NOT GOING TO PROVIDE THAT.

SO TWO PARTS THAT THAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL OR WHEN WE CAME UP HERE BEFORE TO PNC AND COUNCIL, THAT THE DEVELOPMENT ORDER THAT WAS NOT IN THERE.

THE ONLY ONE BY RECOLLECTION, IS THE ONE THAT'S ALONG BIMINI BAY ON THEIR WEST BORDER, AND A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR NORTH.

THEY HAVE A POND ON THE OTHER TWO SIDES, SO THERE'S NO POINT TO PUT THAT THERE.

BUT THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS IN MULTIPLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH MEETINGS.

WOULD YOU PUT THAT FENCE IN THAT THE RESIDENT WAS LOOKING FOR? AND I CAN'T ANSWER THAT.

AND IT'S NOT ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

I DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO SAY THAT THEY CAN OR WILL OR.

OKAY. AND THEN YOUR RESPONSE TO THE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING THAT COMMENT.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING FAIR HOUSING.

SORRY. THE FAIR HOUSING ACT TYPE OF HOMES, EVERYTHING THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2021 IS STILL THE SAME HERE.

SO YOU WOULDN'T PUT A FENCE SEPARATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE HAD THE ORIGINAL.

IF WE'RE TALKING ALONG I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T REMEMBER HOW TO SAY THE NAME, BUT WILEY WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ORIGINALLY, AND THEY DIDN'T WANT THE FENCE.

NOW THEY DO. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF A MOVING TARGET AT THAT POINT.

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RIGHT. IS OUR RESIDENTS, CHRIS AND KYLE, WHO ARE LIVE IN PORT MALABAR, AND THERE'S NOT ONLY THE DUST ASPECT OF IT, RIGHT, BUT THE AMOUNT OF WATER, SURFACE WATER THAT'S COMING ON THEIR PROPERTY WHERE IT NEVER EXISTED ANYMORE.

IT HAS. HAVE YOU DISCUSSED ANY RESOLUTION WITH THEM? POSSIBLE. SO TWO PARTS TO THAT ANSWER.

THE FIRST ONE IS, IS I DON'T GET INVOLVED VERY MUCH WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.

OTHER THAN THE REVIEW OF AS BUILT, TONIGHT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I WAS MADE AWARE.

ONE BY THE CITY INSPECTOR.

AND THEN TALKING WITH THE GENTLEMAN A LITTLE BIT.

HE SHOWED ME SOME PICTURES.

ONE OTHER RESIDENT.

CONSTRUCTION IS NOT COMPLETE, SO IF THERE'S AREAS OF CONCERN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY TRY TO JUMP ON VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO, BY LAW, FORCE FLOODING ONTO OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO IMPACT IT IN THAT MANNER.

SOMETIMES DURING CONSTRUCTION, THINGS DON'T GET PLACED EXACTLY WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

WHEN WE'RE MADE AWARE OF THEM, THEN WE ADDRESS THEM.

AT FINAL CONSTRUCTION, THERE SHOULD BE A SMALL SWALE THAT RUNS ESSENTIALLY ALONG THE ENTIRE WESTERN SORRY EASTERN BORDER WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT YARD DRAINS TO CONVEY THAT INTO THE PONDS.

I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF WHETHER OR NOT THOSE ARE INSTALLED YET, SO THAT MAY LEND TO SOME OF THAT ISSUE.

YEAH. AND THE CONCERNS OF MANY OF THE SPEAKERS THAT I HEARD WERE ALONG THE LINES OF BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THE DUST AND I HAVE PICTURES.

I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN IT.

MOUNDS OF DIRT.

RIGHT. MOUNDS OF DIRT AFFECTING THEIR NEIGHBORS, AFFECTING THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.

HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU NOT ONLY PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING? OR HOW DO YOU TRY AND STOP IT? BECAUSE THEY'VE LIVED LIKE THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO CONSTRUCTION PRACTICES AND WHAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS OR HASN'T DONE.

WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT WHEN YOU BUILD SOMETHING IN A SINGLE PHASE, AS THIS ONE HAS BEEN, IS YOU HAVE TO STORE SOIL SOMEWHERE.

AS TO, LIKE I SAID, MEANS AND METHODS, THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE DICTATE AS THE ENGINEER.

BUT AS I'VE TALKED TO MY CLIENT WHEN ISSUES HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION, THEY'VE BEEN ADDRESSED, USUALLY IN A TIMELY MANNER.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T REPEAT OR THAT THE ISSUE MAY COME BACK, AND THAT IT HAD TO BE ADDRESSED IN A SECOND OR THIRD TIME.

NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT, SIR.

I THINK THAT THE MESSAGE THAT I'M HEARING IS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND RECTIFYING THIS.

SO THERE'S THAT.

GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH YOUR REBUTTAL.

THOSE WERE JUST MY QUESTIONS THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSED MOST EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED TO REBUT.

I DID WANT TO DO ONE CLARIFICATION.

I KNOW I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO ADDRESS SPECIFIC COUNCIL MEMBERS.

BUT SINCE HE ASKED IT FOR COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

THERE WAS A SMALL OMISSION TO WHAT I SAID.

BECAUSE I HAD ONLY ADDRESSED THE TWO ROADS.

I BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED MEADOWBROOK AS WELL THERE ON THE SOUTH.

SO AROUND CHAMPIONS DRIVE AND WHATNOT.

THE MAJORITY OF THAT, THE WHAT WOULD BE THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE LOTS FLOW INTO A DRY POND, AND THAT DRY POND DISCHARGES INTO OUR WET POND. THE REMAINING OR THE MAJORITY OF IT, THOUGH, FLOWS SOUTH INTO I BELIEVE IT'S PHASE FOUR.

THIS WOULD BE PHASE FIVE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.

IS YOUR WET POND TRACK SEE.

BECAUSE AS IN TRACK SEE IT'S SAYING OPEN OR RETENTION.

SO IF IT'S RETENTION I MEAN I'M NOT SEEING SOMETHING THAT'S DESIGNATED RETENTION ONLY ON YOUR WHOLE SITE PLAN.

WELL THIS ISN'T THE SITE PLAN.

AND NOT TO SPLIT HAIRS.

YOU WILL NOT SEE RETENTION OR DETENTION PONDS, ONLY A TRACK DESIGNATION FOR RETENTION OR, SORRY, STORMWATER.

OKAY. BECAUSE I'M SEEING YOUR EASEMENTS, AND IT'S THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A 30 FOOT EASEMENT ALONG PORT MALABAR WHERE IT MEETS BIMINI.

IS THAT BIMINI EASEMENT OR IS THAT YOUR EASEMENT? I DO NOT KNOW. SPECIFICALLY.

I DON'T HAVE A POINTER OR ANYTHING TO TO MAKE SURE THAT I ANSWERED CORRECTLY, BECAUSE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A 30 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT, WHERE WHEN I SEE IT HERE, IT'S NOT ON YOUR IT'S NOT ON YOUR ON YOUR DIAGRAM.

I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT AFTER YOU COME OFF OF RIVIERA IN THE MAIN ENTRANCE HERE, I'LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD POINT THAT OUT TO ME.

SURE. IT'S ONE BEGINNING AT THE NORTHWEST OR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF BIMINI BAY.

ACCORDING TO THE PLAT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 50, PAGES 46 THROUGH 47 OF SAID PUBLIC RECORDS.

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UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GOING TO BUTCHER THIS.

OKAY. THIS IS WHERE IT COMES OFF OF MALABAR ROAD.

AND THIS LITTLE SECTION RIGHT HERE.

SO ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE TO COME ON TO THE.

TO THE MICROPHONE.

YEAH. YEAH.

THAT THAT SMALL SECTION THERE JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE RIVIERA ENTRY IS THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT WHERE WE ACCEPT DRAINAGE OFF OF RIVIERA DRIVE. OKAY.

SO EVERYTHING THAT COMES IN THERE COMES DOWN GOES DOWN BASICALLY THAT OTHER SECTION OF PROPERTY WHERE WE JUMP BACK TO THE SOUTH.

IT COMES IN AND IT GOES BEHIND OUR LOTS IN BETWEEN OUR STUFF AND BIMINI BAY, AND WHERE THAT ROAD GOES DOWN AND TAKES THE CURVE.

ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN IS WHERE THAT GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THE FENCE IN, AND HE WANTS THE FENCE DOWN TO WHERE THE WATER STARTS.

OKAY. SO TRACK C IS WET.

YEAH. MOST OF THE TRACKS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THAT ARE WET.

OKAY. UNLESS THEY'RE IN BETWEEN.

THAT MAKES SENSE THEN. THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL RETENTION PONDS.

THEY JUST DON'T. ON THE PLATTE.

THEY DON'T LIST AS PONDS.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE. YEAH, IT SAYS OPEN OR RETENTION.

RIGHT. AND IF YOU LOOK ON, IF YOU LOOK ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THEN YOU'LL SEE THE ACTUAL POND.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, MORE OF JUST A COMMENT, MAYOR.

FOR TO CATCH CITY COUNCIL UP.

IF THEY DIDN'T LOOK AT THE NEW TRANSCRIPTS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.

BUT THEY TWO ALSO BROUGHT UP CONCERNS.

THEY MADE THE MOTION IN THE SECOND AND THEY WANTED CITY COUNCIL.

THEY WANTED WITH THE BOARD STATEMENT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INSTRUCT CITY STAFF TO INVESTIGATE THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE AREA RESIDENTS.

THE DEVELOPMENT'S CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES.

SO THIS THIS TOPIC WAS NOT JUST BROUGHT UP TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

IT WAS BROUGHT UP YESTERDAY AS WELL.

SO THAT'S ALL MAYOR AND DO.

IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE? MADAM ATTORNEY, PERHAPS IN THE MOTION.

THERE'S NO WELL, THERE'S NO NEED TO PUT IN THE MOTION TO DIRECT.

STAFF COUNSEL ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT DRAINAGE IS OCCURRING.

THE BUILDING IS DONE APPROPRIATELY.

THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THIS MOTION, BUT CERTAINLY THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER THE INTERIM CITY MANAGER, TO LOOK INTO WHO CAN DIRECT DIRECTLY DIRECT HIS STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING DONE IN COMPLIES WITH OUR CODE.

YES, MA'AM. AND I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING ABOUT HOW DO YOU CONTROL ALL THIS DUST? RIGHT. YOU GOT MOUNDS AND MOUNDS OF ALL THIS DIRT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU YOU HAVE TO DO PART OF THAT CONSTRUCTION, BUT PERHAPS DO IT ON A TIMELY BASIS, RIGHT? I CAN ADDRESS THAT. I'VE GOT I MEAN, I'VE GOT A LIST OF WHAT EVERYBODY SAID THAT I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.

YES, SIR. GO AHEAD. YES, SIR.

GOING WITH THE DUST.

YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM OUT THERE.

I DID VERY EARLY ON IN THIS PROJECT.

NOW, THE PROJECT OPPOSED.

I'M GOING TO OPPOSE WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID.

AND THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS BECAUSE I'M ON ABOUT PAGE 18 WITH MY CONTRACTOR.

THAT WOULD PUT ME AT ONE YEAR AND A HALF, WHICH IS A PRETTY REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR 200 LOTS.

IN FACT, WE HELD HIM BACK ON THE SECOND HALF OF THE PROJECT.

FOR A WHILE. WE WERE THINKING ABOUT PLATTING ONLY HALF OF IT AT ONE TIME, SO WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

WE WENT AHEAD WITH THE WHOLE THING.

OTHERWISE THIS JOB PROBABLY WOULD HAVE WRAPPED UP A FEW MONTHS BACK.

AS FAR AS THE DUST GOES, WE HAD 100,000 EXTRA YARDS OF DIRT ON THIS JOB.

OKAY. AND PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE 100,000 EXTRA YARDS OF DIRT ON THIS JOB IS BECAUSE WE HAD TO LOWER IT TO TRY TO MEET THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES SO WE COULD ACCEPT THE DRAINAGE FROM THEM AND MAKE IT REASONABLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T APOLOGIZE FOR THE DIRT BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE RATHER LEFT THE DIRT.

I WOULD HAVE RATHER LEFT IT ON SITE.

I WOULD HAVE RATHER HAD MY HOUSE PADS 12IN TALLER.

MY ROADS 12IN TALLER.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? BUT INSTEAD.

INSTEAD, WE'RE TAKING IT OUT.

I'M PAYING TO HAUL THE DIRT OFF SITE, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE BEEN I'VE BEEN ON THE CONTRACTOR FOR THE LAST 12 MONTHS.

I'M LIKE, I NEED THE DIRT OUT.

I NEED THE DIRT OUT. I NEED THE DIRT OUT.

HE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO TAKE IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A HE HAD MJC LOCAL, SOMEWHAT LOCAL CONTRACTOR, DOES A LOT OF JOBS IN PALM BAY.

HE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT JOBS THAT WERE COMING UP THAT WERE GOING TO BE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, AND THEY JUST THEY KEPT GETTING DRUG OUT.

DRUG OUT, DRUG OUT. SO THE DIRT GOT STUCK THERE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK WE'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO KEEP IT AT A MINIMUM, EARLY ON IN THE JOB, JOHN MCCALL CALLED ME.

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CALLED THE CONTRACTOR. I GO, OH, WE NEED.

WE GOT A DUST PROBLEM.

WELL, I'M ALREADY DONE WITH MY WATER TRUCK BECAUSE I'M DONE WITH EXCAVATING.

I SAID, WELL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? OKAY, SO I HAD TO AUTHORIZE A WATER TRUCK.

SO THEY WERE USING A WATER TRUCK DAILY.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW. I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN THE BILL FOR THAT YET.

I DON'T EVEN WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I MIGHT LOSE MY JOB OVER IT AT THIS POINT.

IT COULD BE $200,000, I DON'T KNOW.

THEY HAVEN'T BUILT ME FOR IT YET, BUT THE WATER TRUCK IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON SITE AND IF IT'S NOT, I APOLOGIZE.

I'M MY CONTRACTOR HAS THE AUTHORIZATION TO DO IT, AND HAD I GOTTEN A PHONE CALL OR SOMETHING, I WOULD HAVE HANDLED IT.

OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I MEAN, WE HAD A PROBLEM.

WE HAD SOME DIRT OVER BY BIMINI BAY EARLY ON BIMINI BAY CALLED SAINT JOHNS WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT CALLED FDP OUT THERE.

I'VE MET WITH BOTH OF THEM ON SITE.

I SOLVED THE PROBLEM IN ONE DAY.

NOT ONLY DID I ADD A LAYER OF SILT FENCE OVER THERE, I TOLD THE CONTRACTOR TO DIG A SMALL RIM DITCH AROUND IT.

FIRST TIME EVER I'VE EVER GOT A CALL BACK FROM SAINT JOHN'S MANAGEMENT DISTRICT TELLING ME, HEY MAN, THANKS FOR DIGGING THAT LITTLE RIM DITCH OVER THERE.

THAT'S AMAZING.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S I'VE REALLY, REALLY PUSHED THROUGHOUT THIS JOB BECAUSE I WORKED ON PHASES ONE THROUGH FOUR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

I WORKED WITH PEOPLE THAT LIVED OVER THERE.

I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

I MISS I MISSED A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS AND I'VE APOLOGIZED TO THE PEOPLE.

THEY HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, THEY CAN CALL ME, PREFERABLY NOT AFTER TONIGHT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE LATE.

BUT YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING THROUGH THE ISSUES WITH EVERYBODY THAT I CAN, YOU KNOW, AND ONCE AGAIN, THESE ARE CONSTRUCTION ISSUES.

THEY'RE NOT PLAT ISSUES.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AND THIS PROJECT, REALISTICALLY MAYBE SIX MORE WEEKS OF HAVING STUFF ON SITE AND THE DIRT WOULD BE GONE TODAY, EXCEPT I HAD 79 GS DONE, WHICH YOUR DENSITY TEST, AND THEY TEST FOR SEDIMENT.

AND I HAD 11 LOTS THAT ACTUALLY HAD TO GET REMEDIATED, SO I HAD TO.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE BRINGING DIRT ON SITE, BUT WE'RE NOT.

I HAD 11 LOTS THAT I HAD TO GO IN AND DIG THE HOUSE PADS OUT 4 TO 6FT DEEP, TAKE THE MUCK OUT, GET IT HAULED AWAY, AND THEN TAKE THE LEFTOVER DIRT THAT WE HAD ON SITE AND FIELD IT.

I'M LUCKY I HAD TEN 000 YARDS OF DIRT LEFT, OR I'D BE PAYING TO TRUCK IT IN.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE BRINGING IN DIRT.

WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN DIRT. TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET DIRT OFF THAT SITE FOR SO LONG, I'VE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT IT HOLDING UP THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION ON THE SITE, YOU KNOW. SO I'M GOING TO ADDRESS THE DRAINAGE ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE ISSUE WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME YESTERDAY.

TANYA RAMOS FROM PLANNING SENT ME AN EMAIL.

HEY, I WANT YOU TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THIS DRAINAGE.

I'M LIKE. I MEAN, I REMEMBER SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOMETHING AROUND HURRICANE TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED THEN, YOU KNOW? SO IN THE MEANTIME, I TALKED TO THE ENGINEER, DAVID BASFORD, THIS MORNING.

I SAID, HEY, I NEED YOU HERE TONIGHT.

MAYBE YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE DRAINAGE A LITTLE BETTER THAN I CAN.

HE LOOKED AT THE SITE THIS AFTERNOON.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE STUFF.

AND THEN WHEN THE JOB'S DONE, WE'VE GOT TO PUT TOGETHER ALL THE AS BUILTS AND THE AS BUILTS HAVE TO GO BACK TO PLANNING AND PLANNING IS GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE AS BUILTS.

AND IF THE AS BUILTS DON'T MATCH THE APPROVED PLANS, THEN SOMETHING'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE DONE.

AND IF THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE WITH DRAINAGE BACK THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW IT.

BECAUSE WHEN THEY AS BUILT THAT BACK STRETCH, YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW WHETHER THE WATER FLOWS DOWN HERE OR IT FLOWS DOWN HERE OR WHERE IT GOES.

SO THAT'S MY ANSWER TO THAT.

THE FENCE AND BIMINI BAY.

I SPOKE WITH THE GENTLEMAN TONIGHT.

AND I SPOKE WITH MY BOSS YESTERDAY OR ACTUALLY THIS MORNING, BECAUSE I WAS HERE LATE LAST NIGHT.

I SPOKE WITH MY BOSS THIS MORNING.

I SAID, LOOK, THIS FENCE FOR BIMINI BAY IS NOT ON THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY.

THE ONLY FENCE WE HAVE IN THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY IS ON THE SIDE OF ISLAND GREEN VILLAS, 570FT.

IT'S ON THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS.

IT'S ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

NOW, I DID TELL THIS GENTLEMAN TONIGHT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IN THERE.

I SAID, LET ME WORK WITH YOU THIS WEEK AND SEE WHAT I CAN GET DONE.

I'VE GOT THE OTHER FENCE CONTRACTED TO GO IN.

MAYBE IT'S A COUPLE HUNDRED FEET OF FENCE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO KILL ME.

AS FAR AS FENCING THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S NEVER BEEN.

NOBODY FROM MY ORGANIZATION HAS EVER SAID WE WERE GOING TO FENCE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY.

IT MEANS THERE'S GATES ON THE FRONT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S FENCED AROUND.

I APOLOGIZE IF SOMEBODY GAVE SOMEBODY THE WRONG INFORMATION, BUT I CAN PROMISE YOU IT DIDN'T COME FROM ME.

SO LET'S SEE WHAT ELSE I GOT HERE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

I'VE HEARD SOME STUFF ABOUT 2018.

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AND ONCE AGAIN PROPERTY VALUES.

I HEARD SOMEBODY TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN HERE I'VE WORKED THROUGH PHASES ONE THROUGH FOUR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PLACE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S LET ME TELL YOU, GO THE GATES OPEN, THE GATES OPEN ON RIVIERA DRIVE TO GO INTO PHASE THREE.

GO THROUGH THAT PROJECT, ALL OF YOU, TAKE A DRIVE.

GO THROUGH THAT PROJECT.

SEE THE TREES THAT WERE LEFT IN THERE, SEE THE HOUSES THAT ARE BUILT IN THERE.

AND YOU TELL ME IF THOSE HOUSES LOWERED PROPERTY VALUES ANYWHERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, ANYWHERE.

NOW, ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE SECOND HALF OF THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH WE'RE BUILDING NOW, PHASE FIVE, WE PUT IN AS A PUD SO WE COULD HAVE MIXED USE BECAUSE BIMINI BAY IS MULTIFAMILY.

ISLAND GREEN VILLAS, MULTIFAMILY TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES.

BIMINI BAY TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES.

BUT YOU GET MY DRIFT.

SO WHEN THIS PUD WAS DONE EARLY ON, WE SET IT UP FOR MULTIFAMILY ALONG THOSE SAME AREAS.

WE'VE MATCHED THE OUTSIDE WITH 80 FOOT LOTS ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND EVERY LOT ON THOSE 80 FOOT LOTS CAN ONLY BE A SINGLE STORY HOUSE.

PER THE AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY AND THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE AT THE MEETING, WE CAN'T BUILD A TWO STORY HOUSE OUT THERE.

ORIGINALLY, THOSE SMALL LOTS 43.5FT LOTS WERE GOING TO BE DUPLEXES.

THEY WERE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, TWO LOTS, ONE DUPLEX LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE.

SO THEY WERE GOING TO BE ZERO LOT LINE ON ONE SECTION OF THE LINE.

WE PETITIONED THE CITY SEVERAL MONTHS BACK, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THIS PLAT HAS TAKEN SO LONG TO GET HERE.

WE PETITIONED THE CITY TO MAKE THEM SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH MAKES IT ACTUALLY BETTER FOR PROPERTY VALUES ON THOSE HOUSES, BECAUSE GOING TO SINGLE FAMILY NOW, THOSE TWO SMALL TWO STORY HOUSES ON 43 FOOT LOTS HAVE TO MATCH THE 1600 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY REQUIREMENT.

1600 SQUARE FEET IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF ANY HOUSE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I GO AROUND ALL THE WAY AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

1600 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE BIGGER THAN A LOT OF THEM.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SECTION EIGHT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

I MEAN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PULL UP, YOU KNOW, THE BREVARD COUNTY TAX ROLL AND LOOK AT WHAT WE BUILT IN PHASE ONE THROUGH FOUR.

FOUR. STILL GOT 30 OR 40 LOTS LEFT TO BUILD, BUT THEY'RE NOT CHEAP HOUSES.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.

CONNECTION TO WATER AND SEWER.

I KNOW ONE INDIVIDUAL HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S A STANDARD OPERATION FOR FOR BUILDING A SUBDIVISION.

YOU KNOW, WE PUT IN, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND $400,000 ON A LIFT STATION.

WE PUT IN ALL THE WATER, SEWER AND REUSE PIPING, AND THEN WE GIVE IT TO THE CITY.

IT'S BASIC STANDARD CLOSEOUT ON ANY PROJECT THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S ANYTHING.

WE HAVE A LIFT STATION THAT TIES INTO THE FORCE MAIN THAT'S GOING TO PUMP EVERYTHING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUT.

ALL OUR DRAINAGE IS SELF-CONTAINED, NOT ONLY SELF-CONTAINED.

WE BRING DRAINAGE OFF RIVIERA.

WE BRING DRAINAGE FROM THE NORTH.

WE BRING DRAINAGE OFF LOTS AROUND US.

AND THEN IT GOES.

IF WE HAPPEN TO GO TOO HIGH, IT GOES UNDERNEATH COUNTRY CLUB, DRIVE INTO PHASE ONE AND OUT INTO THE C1 CANAL, WHICH, BY THE WAY, TWO YEARS AGO WE FIXED THE OUTFALL TO THE C1 CANAL TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $250,000 TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

WE WERE ASKED TO DO IT, AND WE DID IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH BUILDING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT FOR IT.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY AND ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS COUNSELOR? NO, SIR. THANK YOU.

NO, SIR. SO, COUNCIL, THAT'S THE REPORT.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

I'LL SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

DEPUTY MAYOR. NO COMMENTS.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN? YEAH. SO, OBVIOUSLY SOME GREAT POINTS WERE BROUGHT UP BY, BY THE RESIDENTS, AND, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO LOOK AT MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH ANY NEW

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IT'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE COMP PLAN.

AND I THINK AS WELL AS BUILDING OUT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRYING TO CATCH UP, WE NEED TO FINALIZE A COMP PLAN AND THEN WE NEED TO STICK TO IT.

AND I THINK SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT ARE, ARE VERY HIGH DENSITY, AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT APPROVING AND DENYING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE YOU KNOW, THEY GOT TO THE 99 YARD LINE, YOU KNOW, 99 YARDS DOWN THE FIELD.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO DENY THOSE, BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED TO WORK ON THE DENSITY OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN.

SO BUT WITH THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, AN ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM.

I DO I DO HOPE THAT YOU'LL WORK WITH ON THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR CONCERNS ESPECIALLY THE THE FLOODING OF SOME OF THE HOUSES AND REALLY WORK WITH THAT, BECAUSE WHEN IT IS ADDRESSING SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, THAT'S CONCERNING, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT MOVING FORWARD FOR TONIGHT, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE.

YES. YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M PART OF THAT.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, DEPUTY MAYOR, I THINK WHAT WAS DISCUSSED ALSO IS WE NEED TO START WORKING.

MAYBE HAVING THE ATTORNEY WITH A PROCESS ALSO ON ON PHASING THESE THINGS IN AND HOW HOW WE'RE DOING THIS.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DISCUSS IN THE FUTURE.

RIGHT NOW, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SAY NAY. I GUESS I'M THE ONLY NAY.

4 TO 1.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

COMMUNIST QUESTION. YES.

WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO.

OH, NO WE DIDN'T.

WE DID. BUT WE CAN ASK YOU.

THEY DIDN'T. BUT CARRY ON, SIR.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

OKAY. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S ON, BUT SIMILAR TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, NO FORMAL PRESENTATION.

AGAIN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF ADMINISTRATIVE RATHER THAN THE FINAL PLAT.

THAT'S THE ONLY ITEM THAT YOU ALL OR DOCUMENT THAT YOU'VE NOT SEEN BEFORE.

BUT I'M HERE TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS.

SO SO AND IT WAS BY IT WAS BRUSHED OVER ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

BUT WE WANTED TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THAT QUESTION OF OF THE COMMUNIST OWNER OF OF THE LANSING.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT? I DON'T OWN NOR AM I.

NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING THE PARENT COMPANY, LANSING I DON'T THE COMMENT WAS IT'S OWNED BY SOMETHING IN THE 80S THAT I REMEMBER HEARING WHEN I WAS OBVIOUSLY MUCH YOUNGER.

AND THEN IT WAS THE JAPANESE THAT WERE BUYING UP A LOT OF THINGS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT CITIES AND THE CITY ATTORNEY WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ME CAN RESTRICT ANYBODY'S ABILITY TO.

SO THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.

THE RESTRICTION. YEAH.

WE ALREADY SPOKE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT THAT.

THE QUESTION IS, THE QUESTION IS, DID YOU OR DO YOU KNOW IF THAT'S THE ACTUAL OWNER TODAY? NO, SIR, I. NO IDEA AT ALL.

OKAY. THAT THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANTED? YEAH. BECAUSE AS SOON AS SHE SAID IT, I LOOKED INTO.

I LOOKED IT UP. AND THEY MADE A COMMITMENT OVER DECADES AGO OF HOW MUCH THEY'RE GOING TO INVEST BILLIONS IN THE HOUSING MARKET HERE IN AMERICA.

THEY DO IT IN THE ISLANDS.

THEY DO IT IN BAHAMAS AND OTHER AREAS.

YEAH. AND IT'S IT'S VERY CONCERNING IS WHAT I'LL SAY.

AND IT'S ALARMING. SO NOTHING AGAINST YOU, SIR, MAYOR, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN COINCIDENCES.

SO THAT'S WHERE I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

MA'AM. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION, BECAUSE I WASN'T AWARE OF THAT.

SO THAT THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN VOTE BASED OFF OF TODAY.

WE CAN'T VOTE ON IT. BUT IT WAS A QUESTION.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS OF HIGH CONCERN.

WE FIRST WE HEARD FROM MR. BATTEN FROM, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE VENEZUELAN GANGS.

AND HERE I STILL WANT TO MAKE SURE I STAY TO THE YOU KNOW, THIS IS QUASI JUDICIAL, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING OF CONCERN.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHY I WAS HESITANT.

I WAS PAUSING LAST VOTE BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS ADDRESSED LAST TIME.

SO I SHARE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

THE ONE THING THAT I REMEMBER, LIKE I SAID BACK THERE IN THE 80S.

THEY CAN'T TAKE IT WITH THEM.

IT'S LAND. SO, I MEAN, IT'S OFFSET TO SOME DEGREE.

THANK YOU. IS THERE? YEAH. I THINK THE CONCERN IS MORE OF INFILTRATION.

I THINK THAT'S MORE OF THE CONCERN.

SURE, SURE. YEAH. YEAH.

SO DID YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION? NO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

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THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S THAT'S A HUGE THING.

I KNOW OSHA DOESN'T REGULATE YOU KNOW, SOIL DUST, BUT THAT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE QUALITY OF THE COMMUNITY.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S A GREAT COMMENT, COUNCILMAN HAMMOND.

ANY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. SIR? ANY SPEAKER YEAH, I GOT SPEAKER CARDS.

FIRST SPEAKER IS JANE HOLSTEIN.

YEAH, I WROTE DOWN THREE AND FOUR ON YOUR COMMENT ON YOUR.

I ACTUALLY WAS GETTING READY TO LEAVE SINCE YOU ALL HAVE MADE A DECISION.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS MENTIONED IS THAT THERE USED TO BE EAGLES ON THERE, AND IT USED TO BE A FEDERAL VIOLATION TO SHUT DOWN A TREE THAT HAD AN EAGLE IN IT.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? NO. YEAH.

I USED TO KNOW A WHOLE BUNCH OF REGULATIONS ABOUT BUILDING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN CHANGED AND WHAT HASN'T.

I GUESS I NEED TO COME BACK TO THE CITY AND FIND OUT ABOUT THIS.

I WORKED ON THE FIRST THE FIRST CITY PLAN THAT HAD TO GO TO THE COUNTY TO BE APPROVED, THAT HAD TO GO TO THE STATE TO BE APPROVED IN 1986.

THAT WAS OUR FIRST OUR FIRST PLAN.

AND AND OUR OUTER BELT HAS BEEN THERE.

OUR OUTER BELT TO THE SOUTH HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 86, IN THE PLAN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PLAN LOOKS LIKE NOW.

I DO KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE TO THE CITY CHARTER, BUT THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAN ANYHOW. YEAH, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT EVERY TIME YOU LOOK ANYWHERE, ALL THE TREES ARE CUT DOWN. THIS IS.

AND IN THIS AREA.

I'VE LIVED THERE OVER 20 YEARS.

WE'VE GOT FOXES.

I MEAN, THAT WAS THE GOLF COURSE WITH A LOT OF TREES AND A LOT OF PONDS THAT HAD ALLIGATORS IN THEM.

SO THEREFORE ALL THE WILD ANIMALS GOT OUT OF THERE AND THEY'VE BEEN SEEN ALL KINDS OF PLACES.

I'M SURE RUSS WOOD KNOWS MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I DO, BUT.

IN OUR YARD, WE'VE HAD A MULTITUDE OF COONS.

WE HAVE TWO DOGS.

ONE OF THEM'S A TERRIER WHO LIKES TO HUNT.

SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD THING FOR FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL.

AND I JUST REALLY DO THINK YOU YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE WAY THE BUILDING IS GOING ON.

WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT IT'S TOO MUCH BUILDING.

AND I KEEP THINKING AT 199 HOUSES IS GOING TO BE 200 400 CARS ON RIVIERA.

SO I HOPE YOU, I HOPE YOU ALL GET YOURSELVES STRAIGHTENED OUT REAL SOON.

I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT SPEAKER.

NEXT SPEAKER IS CHRIS ROSS.

HELLO AGAIN, CHRIS ROSS, 696 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.

SO LAST NIGHT AND TONIGHT WE REALIZED THAT A LOT OF THIS STUFF HAS ALREADY BEEN SET IN MOTION AND PRETTY MUCH ALREADY APPROVED.

EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A VOTE OF APPROVAL, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALREADY DONE.

LAST NIGHT, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE THINGS WE WERE ADDRESSING WERE NOT APPLICABLE FOR THAT MEETING TONIGHT FOR FINAL APPROVAL.

THE THINGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING UP IS NOT APPLICABLE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PROCESS AND STUFF, BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU AFTERWARDS IS JUST WHEN ARE THESE THINGS APPLICABLE? WHEN WE BRING UP DRAINAGE AND SUCH.

SO AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER, ELEVATION IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PLAT, BUT DRAINAGE IS.

AND AT WHAT HOUR? SINCE THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL.

WHEN IS THE DRAINAGE GOING TO BE ADDRESSED? BECAUSE THAT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE PLAT THAT FALLS WITHIN THE PLAT STUFF.

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I FORGOT TO MENTION EARLIER YOU GUYS ALL HAVE PICTURES IN THE BACK OF MY YARD.

THERE'S A DANGEROUS, POSSIBLY FATAL HAZARD THAT WHEN THE WATER GETS HIGH, IT SURROUNDS AND IS RIGHT AT THE LIP OF AN ELECTRICAL BOX.

MY QUESTION IS, IF THE WATER GETS HIGH ENOUGH AND I WALK OUTSIDE AND THAT THING TOUCHES THE WATER.

DO I GET ELECTROCUTED IN MY OWN BACKYARD? THEY DISCUSSED BUILDING A MOUND OR A BERM OF SORTS THAT HOLDS THE WATER BACK, BUT NORMALLY MY LAND WOULD DRAIN INTO WHAT WAS WHAT USED TO BE THERE BEFORE THEY BUILT IT UP SO HIGH.

AND THEY SAID THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING DIRT OUT TO MATCH THE ELEVATION.

BUT I INVITE EVERY ONE OF YOU IN FRONT OF ME AND BEHIND ME TO COME TO MY HOUSE AT SIX, NINE, SIX PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD.

AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE ELEVATION IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2 AND 4FT BETWEEN ME AND MY NEIGHBORS.

JUST TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM ME.

THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT MY YARD CAN DRAIN ANYWHERE, BECAUSE WATER HERE DOES NOT DRAIN TO SOMETHING THAT'S UP HERE.

AND ON THE MAP NORTH OF ME, THERE'S THERE'S A LOOP.

WILEY. WILEY CIRCLE OR WHATEVER.

JUST NORTH OF THAT, THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THE SAME STUFF THAT I HAVE, TO THE POINT WHERE THE WATER ACTUALLY GOES OVER THE TEMPORARY FENCE.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE.

AND I JUST FOUND OUT THAT ON A WEBSITE, FLORIDA TODAY, BACK IN JANUARY 21ST OR JANUARY 21ST, 2015, IT SAYS IN THERE THAT DURING A SIMILAR PLAN IN 2006, PEOPLE WERE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THEIR FLOODED YARDS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

KYLE GREEN. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KYLE GREEN, 530 PORT MALABAR BOULEVARD NORTHEAST.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER SOME OF THE SAME SENTIMENTS THAT I ALREADY DISCUSSED EARLIER.

I WILL SAY, JUST FOR THE BOARD'S AWARENESS.

SOME OF THE OTHER TOPICS THAT DID COME UP LAST NIGHT APART FROM WILDLIFE, AS WAS MENTIONED, FOXES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

I DID ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THAT AFFECTED WILDLIFE ACTUALLY IMPACT MY OWN PROPERTY AS WELL.

WE TRADITIONALLY ALWAYS HAD HAWKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT ROOST BEHIND THE PROPERTY, AND SOME OF THE TREES THAT WERE ESSENTIALLY TORN DOWN.

IT ACTUALLY RESULTED IN THIS YEAR, PREVIOUSLY IN JUNE, WITH HAWKS GETTING INTO MY PATIO ENCLOSURE THAT I HAD TO EVENTUALLY CALL A RESCUE SERVICE TO COME GET THEM. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP THERE WAS A CONCERN FROM ANOTHER RESIDENT ABOUT ROOFING DAMAGE THAT HAD HAPPENED FROM THE DUST. THIS PARTICULAR LADY WAS HERE EARLIER THIS EVENING, BUT DID LEAVE.

SHE INSTALLED A NEW ROOF.

I MY UNDERSTANDING FROM LAST NIGHT WAS LAST YEAR.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE TRANSCRIPTS.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A 15 YEAR ROOF, AND SHE'S ALREADY HAD TO GO OUT OF HER OWN POCKET TO DO REPAIRS TO HER OWN ROOF.

AND FURTHERMORE, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT OFF OF RIVIERA.

THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME FOLKS BACKING INTO SOME WATER AS THEY TRY LEAVE.

AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST SENTIMENTS FROM LAST NIGHT.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW THE TRANSCRIPTS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

JUDY CRANDALL. I SAID WHAT I HAD TO SAY BEFORE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ROBERT GAMBLE.

I THINK HE LEFT. YEAH, I BELIEVE HE DID.

I MEAN, HE HAS HER. WHO? DEBBIE NIEHAUS.

SHE LEFT ALSO. HENRY WARDWELL.

THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKER.

THANK YOU. SIR.

DID YOU WANT TO REBUT ON THESE TWO COMMENTS? I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY DIFFERENT, THOUGH.

THERE IS ONE THING THAT I HEARD EARLIER ABOUT DENSITY.

I KNOW THAT WAS FOR ITEM THREE, BUT IT'S ALSO APPLICABLE TO THIS ONE.

WE'VE NOT APPLIED FOR OR MODIFIED THE NUMBER OF UNITS IN ANY OF THE SUBMITTALS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT ONE CLARIFICATION.

AND IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE.

SEEING NONE. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

MOTION SECOND.

I DIDN'T CATCH THAT.

WHO WAS FIRST? LANGEVIN. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

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NAY. WE ARE NOW ON CONSENT.

ITEM PASSES 4 TO 1.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]

ITEM NUMBER ONE.

WHO? WHO PULLED THAT SIR? SPEAKER CARD FROM BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I THINK IT'S HIGHLY APPROPRIATE THAT A BRONZE STAR WINNER OR EARNER GETS RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY. I ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THIS INDIVIDUAL AS BE RECEIVING A THIS FLAG OF WHAT A GREAT JOB HE DID ON RAISING A SON THAT WAS WILLING TO STEP UP AND PUT HIS TIME, ENERGY, AND EFFORT INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

EVEN IF IT DOES TAKE ME OUT OF MY TAX DOLLAR MONEY.

BUT LORD HELP ME, IT'S AN ACCOMPLISHMENT WHEN YOU SEE A FATHER THAT COMES UP WITH THAT.

SO I THINK IT'S JUSTIFIABLE FIREBALL THAT HIS SON RECOGNIZED HIS FATHER, AND IF HE CAN DO IT IN A MANNER THAT RECOGNIZES HIM IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE CITY.

KUDOS TO YOU. BUT EVEN MORE KUDOS TO YOUR FATHER.

HE DID A GREAT JOB, YOUNG MAN.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ANY MR..

YOU KNOW, YOU AND I GO TOE TO TOE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL.

MAYOR. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

I WANTED TO SECOND THIS ONE.

THE MILITARY TO MILITARY.

HE'S A HE'S A BRONZE STAR RECIPIENT.

AS AS MASTER'S CHIEF SAID.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY THE MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

WHO PULLED ITEM THREE, SIR.

BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST, $329,000.

EXTENDING THE WATER THE POTABLE WATER DOWN MALABAR ROAD.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S FOR, BUT MY CONCERN IS IF WE'RE PROVIDING SOMETHING TO THE TOWN OF MALABAR, YET WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT DON'T HAVE POTABLE WATER.

WHY AREN'T WE USING THAT SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY, SAME AMOUNT OF FUNDING, AND AT LEAST TRYING TO PROVIDE TO THE RESIDENTS OF PALM BAY BEFORE WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT PROVIDING IT TO THE TOWN OF MALABAR.

THAT'S IT. PROVIDE, AS I COULD SAY, AMERICA FIRST.

WELL, LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT PALM BAY FIRST, THEN TOWN OF MALABAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. I'LL BRING UP OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, GABRIEL BOWDEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE $300,000 IS FROM MALABAR TO US TO HELP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PAYING.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GIVING US AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION.

THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

NO SPEAKER CARDS. OH, THAT WAS COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

YEAH. SO ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

AND THEN ITEM NUMBER FIVE, I PULLED ALSO FOR, FOR THE SAME REASON.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THIS AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.

AND, AND TO ME, WE'RE SPENDING TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO BEAUTIFY A PRIVATE BUSINESS.

AND I JUST I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

SO I WANTED TO PULL THOSE ITEMS AND DISCUSS IT.

I MEAN, THAT'S $12,000 OF THE CITY'S MONEY THAT WE'RE GOING TO.

AND WHAT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS WE'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING WINNERS.

SO THERE'S OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE CITY WHO WENT AHEAD AND JUST BEAUTIFIED THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO PICK A DIFFERENT BUSINESS.

AND ONE OF THEM IS A LIQUOR STORE TO I KNOW WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT ARIA SUNSHINE BOULEVARD LLC, BUT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $12,000 TO TO BEAUTIFY A LIQUOR STORE.

LOOK, IF YOU WANT TO BEAUTIFY YOUR PROPERTY, BEAUTIFY YOUR PROPERTY.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE TAXPAYER'S RESPONSIBILITY.

SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I STAND.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILOR.

NO. I'M COUNCILMAN.

I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, BECAUSE I BROUGHT IT UP AS WELL, TOO.

I CAN SEE A BETTER USE.

I KNOW WE HAVE. WE VENTURE COMING ON BOARD TO HELP WITH BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE I FEEL BUSINESS HELPING A BUSINESS DEVELOP WOULD BRING SO MUCH MORE VALUE

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SO I'M IN SUPPORT WITH YOU, SIR.

INITIALLY I WAS SUPPORTING WHEN WE FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.

BUT THE MORE I LOOKED AT IT, I'M LIKE THIS IS MORE OF JUST A HANDOUT, BEING HONEST.

SO THAT'S. I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP, SIR.

SO SO I'M, I'M ON A I'M ON A DIFFERENT END BECAUSE I'VE SEEN SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE REALLY THRIVED FROM THIS, AND I'LL, I'LL MENTION A FEW ROONEY'S AS AN EXAMPLE LONG STANDING BUSINESS THAT HAS WAS ABLE TO TO, YOU KNOW, SPRUCE UP THAT THIS IS THIS IS MORE THAN JUST HELPING THAT BUSINESS.

IT'S BUILDING UP THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR WITHOUT TEARING, TEARING IT DOWN.

THEY CHANGED. THEY CHANGED THEIR PARKING SYSTEM.

THEY CHANGED. IT LOOKS THE FACADE LOOKS SO DIFFERENT.

SO I BELIEVE IN A PROGRAM THAT CAN BEAUTIFY THE CITY.

YES. ARE THERE BUSINESSES THAT THEY LEASE THE PROPERTY THAT DON'T OWN OUT THE PROPERTY? AND IN MOST CASES IT IS.

AND SO THAT'S AN INVESTMENT.

THEY'RE STILL INVESTING.

AND WE'RE JUST PARTNERING THEM WITH THEM TO GIVE THEM A GRANT.

SO I'M, I'M I KNOW THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS AT A WORKSHOP, AND IN THAT WORKSHOP IT WAS SUGGESTED AS MEMORY SERVES.

AND IN THAT WORKSHOP OF IMPROVING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS WAS THIS WAS A PROGRAM THAT MOST FOLKS THOUGHT THAT WOULD HELP.

AND I AND I STILL AGREE THAT IT DOES.

I LOOK AT THAT RUNIZ AND I, I DRIVE BY IT.

AND IF YOU SEE THAT AT THE END OF PALM BAY ROAD, GENTLEMEN BEFORE ROONEY SPRUCED THAT UP.

IT WAS KIND OF DILAPIDATED IN THAT AREA.

SO I DO AGREE ALSO THAT THERE'S A A LEVEL OF REINING THIS IN.

MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS INSTEAD OF THROWING THE BABY OUT WITH THE BATHWATER WORK ON ON RESTRICTING IT A LITTLE MORE, MAYBE GIVE MORE OF A LESS OF A PERCENTAGE, BUT I STILL THINK IT'S A WORTHWHILE PROGRAM.

ALL THAT TO SAY, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US IS SOMEONE THAT APPLIED TO THE PROGRAM THAT'S EXISTING.

AND I WOULD I WOULD SUGGEST WE APPROVE THIS THIS ITEM.

DO WE NEED A MOTION BEFORE WE DISCUSS ALL THIS? WELL, I YES.

YOU'RE RIGHT. YES.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT, ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JAFFEY, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

SO IF I MAY DISCUSS.

YOU MADE THE MOTION.

SO I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU, MAYOR.

THE PROGRAMS THERE, THEY APPLIED, THEY MET THE STANDARDS.

AND THAT'S WHY I CONCUR THAT THEY SHOULD BE ISSUED THE GRANT.

DO I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN AS WELL? AND, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THAT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE BEST USE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, BUT AS OF AS OF RIGHT NOW, THIS PROGRAM EXISTS, AND WE CAN EXPLORE IN THE FUTURE RESTRICTING THE GUIDELINES OR ELIMINATING THE PROGRAM ALTOGETHER.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEY, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING, WAS THERE MORE DISCUSSION BY THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS OR.

NO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANY.

I WAS AN I VOTE. YEAH.

OKAY. ALL SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

NAY. SO FAILS 3 TO 2.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

YEAH. SO SAME THING.

I PULLED IT FOR THE SAME REASON.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION FOR DISCUSSION.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE FOR DISCUSSION, EVEN THOUGH MY SENTIMENTS REMAIN THE SAME.

OKAY. I'LL SECOND.

GO AHEAD. SO I FEEL THE SAME WAY.

MY SENTIMENTS FEEL THE SAME.

SO ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED.

SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

NAY. SO FAILS.

3 TO 2. NUMBER SIX.

OR DID WE PASS NUMBER SIX? NO I FAILED.

WAS THAT IT? SIX.

WE PULLED SIX. SIX. WE PULLED SIX.

BILL BATTEN. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I FIND IT STRANGE THAT WE HAD INTO PROCLAMATIONS NUMBER TWO.

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YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WAS ON THE FIRST THING OF THE AGENDA.

THEN WE COME OVER HERE AND WE HAVE HUD MONEY IN THE AMOUNT OF $776,000. AND WHAT WHAT GETS SPENT ON IT IS TWO PARKS GETS REWORKED, THE AQUATIC CENTER GETS REWORKED, AND SIDEWALKS GET PUT IN.

YET WE HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM.

YEAH. SO BILL BATTEN BEING THE PERSON THAT HE IS, LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING FOR THE INDIVIDUALS IF WE CAN.

AND WE DON'T HAVE A COLD WEATHER SHELTER IN PALM BAY.

IT'S COLD OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, FOLKS.

WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT OF NIP IN THE AIR WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

WHAT WE COULD HAVE BOUGHT WAS ONE MILITARY COMMAND POST TENT.

WE COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT WITH THE HEATERS.

HAD IT STORED, WE COULD SET IT UP RIGHT OUT HERE.

WE'D HAVE A COLD WEATHER SHELTER AVAILABLE FOR A NIGHT LIKE TONIGHT, INSTEAD OF THE PARKS BEING TAKEN CARE OF.

TWO PARKS AND THE AQUATIC CENTER.

BUT AT LEAST THEY MIGHT HAVE A SIDEWALK TO WALK UP HERE TO IT.

JUST KEEP IT IN MIND OF WHAT THE MONEY WAS FOR.

AND IT CAME FROM YOUR TAX DOLLAR FROM HUD.

SO LOOK FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S SUFFERING TONIGHT, AND MAYBE YOU MIGHT LEND THEM A BLANKET INSTEAD OF LETTING THEM SLEEP IN THE PARK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON. MAYOR, I'LL JUST DEFER TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JOAN GIANCOLA.

THANK YOU. THIS ITEM IS ADMINISTRATIVE IN NATURE.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD ALREADY VOTED TO RECOMMEND ALLOCATION OF FUNDING TO ELIGIBLE ENTITIES TO COUNCIL, AND COUNCIL THEN VOTED TO AWARD BASED ON THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO MOVE THE FUNDS TO THOSE AWARDED AGENCIES.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

ITEM NUMBER TWO.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM SHATTERED PIECES MINISTRY, INC.

FOR ITS FIVE K UNIT WALK ON DECEMBER 7TH, 2024 AT THE FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK.

AND THE APPLICANT WANTS TO.

YES. OKAY.

I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE.

ARE YOU THE APPLICANT, MA'AM? YES. DID YOU WANT TO COME SAY A FEW WORDS? YES. SHE ALSO SUBMITTED A SPEAKER CARD AS WELL.

SO. OKAY. I DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS ABSENT.

CARRY ON. MA'AM.

OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON.

TO THE PANEL AND TO THE MAYOR AND EVERYONE IN THEIR RESPECTFUL PLACE.

MY REASON FOR PUTTING THIS UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

AND I THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY SPONSORSHIP APPLICATION AS WELL.

I PUT IT UP FOR CONSIDERATION DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE COMMUNITY CHURCHES AND THE FAMILIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES, WE ALL NEED TO KNOW WHO WE LIKE, WHO'S AROUND US, WHO LABORS AROUND US SO THAT IF ANYBODY NEEDS HELP OR THEY CAN SEE THE FACES AND THEY CAN PUT A NAME WITH THE FACE.

ALSO, THE WALK IS FOR BRIDGING THE GAPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES.

BECAUSE OF SO MUCH GOING ON AS FAR AS THE SENSELESS MURDERS, THE THINGS GOING ON IN THE SCHOOLS AND JUST OUTSIDE OF IN THE COMMUNITY, PERIOD.

SO IT'S TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, BRING FAMILIES TOGETHER SO THAT WE CAN SHARPEN EACH OTHER AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN. SO THIS WALK IS FOR, YOU KNOW, TO HELP FAMILIES, THE COMMUNITIES, BUT TO BUILD EACH OTHER UP IN PRAYER.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND NO SPEAKER CARDS BECAUSE SHE WAS THE ONLY SPEAKER.

NO BILL.

BATTEN OKAY.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

JUST BEING TRUE TO MY BELIEF THAT I LOOK AT THIS AS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT WHEN YOU'RE MAKING SOME PEOPLE PAY FOR THE SERVICES, BUT OTHER PEOPLE GET IT FOR FREE, THAT'S

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SO I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A BAD CAUSE.

WHAT I AM SAYING IS THE FACT THAT IT'S A SOMEBODY ELSE'S MONEY, AND PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT DOES NOT NORMALLY FLY WELL WITH ME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS, SIR? THAT WAS IT. NO, MA'AM. OKAY.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE REAL QUICK.

YES, SIR. MA'AM, I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONNECT WITH PASTOR MARK RIGHT HERE, RIGHT IN FRONT.

WHITE SHIRT, WHITE HAIR.

RIGHT THERE. WELL IT'S GREAT.

IT'S GREAT. SORRY, SIR, BUT BECAUSE HE DOES A WALK TO HE.

HE'S DONE A VICTORY IN CHRIST.

WALK RIGHT AROUND CITY HALL.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONNECT WITH HIM.

AND I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WITH THIS PROJECT, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT IT.

AS IT'S JUST A FEE WAIVER, IT'S NOT STAFF TIME.

IT'S NOTHING OF THAT SORT.

IT'S SPECIAL EVENT FEE, 150 AND THEN $60.

PAVILION FEE $60.

SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 210 OF PAVILION FEES AND SPECIAL EVENTS FEES.

SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OPPOSE.

PASSES FIVE ZERO.

WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. ROBINSON. THANK YOU.

MAYOR. THIS IS THIS ITEM IS A CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY'S 2025 THROUGH 2026 STATE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

OKAY. COUNCIL WANT TO DISCUSS THIS? YES. OKAY.

OF COURSE WE DO.

SO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF? I TAKE IT, COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP DISCUSSION FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST RESPONDER REHABILITATION TRUCK. OKAY.

WELL, WE'RE DISCUSSING IT.

GO AHEAD. IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY WE DO NOT HAVE A GRANT FOR THIS SO FAR.

RIGHT NOW. AND WITH US HAVING THE VEHICLES THAT WE DO HAVE THAT WE DON'T USE A LOT.

I DO KNOW THE MAINTENANCE DOES BUILD UP A LOT OF MONEY FOR THESE.

I THINK AT THE MOMENT, RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO BE WORRYING ABOUT OTHER THINGS.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY TO GET STATE APPROPRIATION FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST RESPONDER REHABILITATION TRUCK? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? THAT YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITY.

I WANT TO ADDRESS HOW MUCH THE MAINTENANCE ON THIS IS GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAINTENANCE AND THE UPKEEP OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MUCH THE COMMAND CENTER COSTED US.

OKAY. I GUESS WE CAN ASK THE CHIEF TO COME UP AND ASK ASK HIM WHAT HE WOULD ESTIMATE IT AT.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS OUR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, AND PERHAPS ASKING HIM MORE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT IT IS THAT WHY WE WOULD NEED THAT? WHY WOULD WE WANT TO GO AND GET THAT? SO, MR. ROBINSON? CHIEF SILVER, THANK YOU SIR.

GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

THIS REHAB TRUCK, IT BASICALLY HAS.

IT'S KIND OF AIR CONDITIONED INSIDE.

IT HAS A SHOWER IN THERE.

RESTROOM. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE DESIGNED IT WITH SOME AIR BOTTLES AND TO REFILL AND CANOPIES, THINGS LIKE THAT. TO WHERE WHEN WE GO OUT ON A MAJOR SCENE AND WE'RE THERE FOR A LONG DURATION, THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE ABLE TO COME IN OUT OF THE ELEMENTS AND EITHER HAVE SOME AIR CONDITIONING, BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND GO THROUGH THEIR MEDICAL EVALUATION, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALL GOOD WITH THEIR NUMBERS AND STUFF SO THEY CAN GET BACK TO WORK AND GET OUT INTO THE FIELD.

IT WOULD ALSO BE USED AS A REGIONAL ASSET.

THIS WOULD BE USED FROM INDIAN RIVER COUNTY, ALL THE WAY TO THE NORTH END OF BREVARD COUNTY, FOR ANY AUTOMATIC CALL OUT FOR ANY OTHER AGENCY IN THOSE AREAS, AS WELL AS TO THE WEST OVER IN OSCEOLA.

SO IT'S IT'S A IT'S AN ASSET THAT WOULD BE DESIGNED TO, TO BASICALLY REHAB OUR PEOPLE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE, GET THEM CLEANED UP.

AND I DID FORGET ONE OTHER PART OF THAT.

I BELIEVE THE WAY WE WROTE IT IN THERE, IT WOULD ALSO BE AN ASSET FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES IN THAT SAME GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.

AS FAR AS THE MAINTENANCE ITSELF.

THE TRUCK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IS ABOUT 24 MONTHS.

I BELIEVE IT IS BUILD.

SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE IT FOR PROBABLY THE FIRST YEAR OR TWO, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DELIVERY TIME IS.

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SO THERE'D BE ALMOST NO MAINTENANCE COSTS THERE OTHER THAN FUEL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THE WAY THE I BELIEVE THIS WAS A PIERCE.

SO WITH THE PIERCE, THERE'S MULTIPLE UNITS, MULTIPLE COMPONENTS ON THAT UNIT THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN A SINGLE YEAR WARRANTY.

SO FOR PROBABLY THE FIRST THREE YEARS, 2 TO 3 YEARS.

THE IMPACT WOULD BE MINIMAL.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE I NEED I NEED YOU GUYS TO MAKE A MOTION.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING BY 30 MINUTES.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'LL SECOND IT. SECONDED BY LANGEVIN.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. OKAY, WE GOT TILL 1130.

CARRY ON WITH YOUR QUESTIONS.

THAT'S ALL I WANT TO KNOW.

AND OTHER THAN THAT, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE WITH THE LITHIUM BATTERY FIRES.

CORRECT? WELL, IT WOULD GO ON ANY INCIDENT.

WHATEVER WE'RE OUT THERE FOR A LONG DURATION ON BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE NO WAY TO REHAB ANYBODY WHEN THEY'RE OUT ON A SCENE.

THE THE MOST UTILIZED WAY RIGHT NOW IS TO PUT THEM IN THE BACK OF ONE OF THE TRANSPORT UNITS FROM THE COUNTY.

THE DOWNSIDE TO THAT IS NOW THAT'S A ASSET THAT'S NOT ABLE TO BE USED FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING MEDICAL EMERGENCIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.

SO YOU GOT ONE MORE.

GO AHEAD. OKAY. OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.

GO AHEAD. SORRY. OKAY.

SO I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF.

I DO JUST HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH WITH THIS PROJECT.

PERSONALLY YOU OKAY? SO WHICH PROJECT? WITH THE REHABILITATION TRUCK.

SO ALL RIGHT.

IT'S A REGIONAL ASSET.

THAT'S GREAT. THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR BY THE COUNTY OR BY ONE OF THOSE LARGER DEPARTMENTS OR SMALLER MUNICIPALITY.

SO. AND WE'RE INCREDIBLY FAR BEHIND ON OUR ON OUR FIRE AND OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

SO WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER THAT THE COUNTIES ARE GOING TO WANT TO USE AND THAT THE COUNTIES COULD BE ASKING FOR? SO THAT'S YOU KNOW, ONE CONCERN THAT I HAVE WITH THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WE'RE SO FAR BACK ON FIREHOUSES, ON TRUCKS THAT FILL THOSE FIREHOUSES.

NOW, IF WE HAVE A REHABILITATION VEHICLE AND SUPPOSEDLY IT'S GOING TO GO TO EVERY INCIDENT, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GO TO MORE CRITICAL INCIDENTS.

BUT IF IT GOES TO EVERY INCIDENT NOW, YOU HAVE TO HAVE MORE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE JUST DRIVING A REHABILITATION VEHICLE.

SO NOW WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER VEHICLE, BUT WE'RE STILL BEHIND ON ENGINES AND LADDER TRUCKS.

IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD SEVEN NEW FIREHOUSES, THOSE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE TO BE EQUIPPED WITH FIRE TRUCKS.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT, LIKE, WE SHOULD BE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW.

I'VE ALSO BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR LOBBYISTS AND WITH OUR STATE ELECTED OFFICIALS ALL WEEK ON THIS ONE.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT FROM THEIR END OF ALL OF OUR PROJECTS, THAT THAT IS THE ONE THAT THEY'RE THE LEAST LIKELY TO TO BE EXCITED ABOUT.

AND THEY KIND OF HINTED THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

I DO LIKE THE OTHER THREE PROJECTS.

PERSONALLY, AGAIN, WITH SOME CONVERSATIONS FROM OUR LOBBYISTS AND AND STATE OFFICIALS.

I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY TWO MORE PROJECTS.

I THINK ONE SHOULD BE A PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECT THAT IS MORE, MORE APPROPRIATE FOR WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW AS A CITY.

AND THEN ANOTHER ONE SHOULD BE A ROAD PROJECT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT ON.

WE'RE ON OUR LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATIONS.

OKAY. SO LET ME TRY TO REIN THIS IN.

SO THE PALM BAY FIBER OPTIC EXPANSION PROJECT.

ARE WE ALL GOOD THERE? YES. OKAY.

I'M REALLY BIG ON THIS LIVE LOCAL ACT.

OKAY. I THINK THAT WE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

OR THERE WAS, I THINK HOW MANY MUNICIPALITIES WERE THEY THAT WERE ADVERSELY, REALLY ADVERSELY AFFECTED? AND I KNOW THAT MOST OF THEM WERE LIKE US.

MEANING GENERAL DEVELOPMENT.

CITIES. RIGHT.

DO YOU REMEMBER THE TOTAL WITHIN THE STATE? IT WAS LESS THAN TEN.

THE WAY I REMEMBER IT. IS THAT ACCURATE OR AM I FAR FROM IT? I'LL DEFER TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JONES.

I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBER, BUT IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT, THE GDC.

YEAH, I WAS THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.

HOW WE WERE LOOKING TO GET AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULDN'T INCLUDE OUR MUNICIPALITIES.

WELL, WE WERE LOOKING WE ORIGINALLY WERE.

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AND THAT DIDN'T PASS. THAT DIDN'T PASS EITHER.

WE AIM TO GET COUNCIL CONSENSUS TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD AT LEAST I'M HOPING I GET CONSENSUS HERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT.

WE NEED EVERY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR IN OUR CITY TO CREATE JOBS.

AND I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE CHALLENGED BECAUSE THE WAY WE WERE FOUNDED.

BUT THOSE ARE MY, MY, MY TWO COMMENTS ON THAT.

SO WE'RE GOOD WITH OUR SEPTIC TO SEWER.

IS THAT CORRECT? DO YOU HAVE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? YES, YES. OKAY.

THAT. THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT.

WHERE ELSE DO YOU GUYS WANT TO FOCUS ON? YES, SIR. I FEEL THIS WOULD BE A APPROPRIATE OPPORTUNITY TO FOCUS ON.

WE HEAR THE RESIDENTS ALL THE TIME ON COMING.

IT'S USUALLY, HEY, I HAVE THIS ISSUE WITH THIS PERSON OR THIS STAKEHOLDER, AND THEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.

WE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

SO THIS WOULD BE THE TIME TO REALLY GO FORTH AND LOOK AT A LOT OF LEGISLATION THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, PREEMPTED BY THE STATE ONTO US, THAT'S HANDCUFFED US IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS OF WHERE WE HAVE MINIMAL CONTROL IN TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF CONSTITUENTS.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN HASH OUT TODAY OR TONIGHT AT LEAST.

BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HASH OUT.

HEY, THIS THIS LEGISLATION RIGHT HERE HAS CAUSED US TO, YOU KNOW, NOT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE CONSTITUENTS.

THIS LEGISLATION HERE HAS CAUSED US NOT TO ADDRESS THESE CONSTITUENTS.

SO IT'S IT GETS I FEEL LIKE IT'S GROUNDHOG'S DAY BECAUSE EVERY COUNCIL MEETING PEOPLE COME UP, YOU KNOW, SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.

BUT WE'RE ONLY WE CAN ONLY HAVE SO MUCH LEEWAY TO DO SO MUCH AS A COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW, WE GIVE DIRECTION WITH STAFF.

THEY FOLLOW IT OR AND GO FROM THERE.

SO JUST I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING MAYBE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, TO LOOK INTO WHAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE LOBBYISTS OR BRING TO.

TWO. YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU'RE HITTING MORE ON THE STATE, YOU KNOW, PASSING MANDATES ON US AND HANDCUFFING US.

AM I UNDERSTANDING YOU? YES, SIR. AND JUST THEY THEY DON'T KNOW.

UNLESS THEY KNOW. UNLESS.

AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW UNLESS WE TELL THEM SO.

OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO THINK EVERYTHING THEY PASS WORKS JUST FINE.

SO I FEEL WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, BRING THINGS THAT AFFECT THE CITY OF PALM BAY UP TO THE STATE, BECAUSE WHAT TENDS TO HAPPEN IS ONE OF THE STATE LEGISLATORS OR STATE SENATORS WILL PASS OR PUSH TO HAVE SOMETHING PASSED, AND IT AFFECTS EVERYBODY WHEN EACH MUNICIPALITY, EACH COUNTY IS DIFFERENT.

SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I FEEL.

I FEEL WE CAN LOOK AT CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE HAD NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LIMITED AMOUNT OF POWER ON OUR END WHICH IS ALL A PART OF HOME RULE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO THE CONFERENCE, YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT.

SO YES. YES.

YEAH. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M AT.

MAYOR, I SUPPORT ALL THE OTHER PROJECTS.

I'M WITH YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO TALLAHASSEE SEVERAL TIMES.

LIKE YOU HAVE, LIKE THE MAYOR HAS.

AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE REHABILITATION TRUCK, I DON'T SEE THEM PASSING THAT.

SO I'D RATHER US PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD ON PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW HAVE THE HIGHEST POTENTIAL OF GETTING SUPPORT.

AND THOSE ARE WATER PROJECTS, FOR SURE.

YES. AND I DO THINK INFRASTRUCTURE AROSE.

YES. BUT HERE, LET ME LET ME DIVE IN WITH THAT.

YES, SIR. SINCE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND LANGEVIN DID MENTION OR COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN DID MENTION THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT WE WERE ABLE TO GET, I THINK, 1.2 MILLION.

NOT THIS PAST SESSION.

THE SESSION BEFORE FOR OUR RANGE.

AND I WANT TO SEE HOW WE COULD TRY TO HONE IN ON THAT PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

BECAUSE THAT IS A REGIONAL TYPE PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING.

MR. ROBINSON, CAN I HAVE THE CHIEF COME UP FOR A SECOND? SURE, CHIEF.

GENTLEMEN AND MAYOR, WHILE THE CHIEF'S COMING UP IN OUR CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE LOBBYISTS, HE SAID WE HAVE TIME.

SO WE HAVE TIME TO MOVE ON SOME MORE ITEMS. AND SO. GOOD EVENING.

SO, CHIEF WHAT WAS IT? 1.2 MILLION, I BELIEVE IT WAS 1.25, I BELIEVE.

1.25. THANK YOU.

SO AND WE'RE WE'RE ENHANCING OUR RANGE.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK WE COULD TRY TO SECURE FROM STATE APPROPRIATIONS TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT THAT RANGE, CONTINUE BUILDING THAT TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE? WELL, PART OF WHAT THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE THAT WE GOT YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT MONEY THAT WE HAVE IS GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER STRUCTURE TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE TRAINING EVOLUTIONS

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RIGHT? CORRECT. AND IT ALSO BRINGS FOLKS IN TO VISIT THE CITY TO VISIT OUR TRAINING CENTER.

WE HAVE FOLKS FROM GEORGIA.

WE HAVE FOLKS FROM NORTH CAROLINA.

WE HAVE FOLKS FROM SOUTH FLORIDA COME UP AND USE THE TRAINING CENTER.

IT'S BOOKED YEAR ROUND.

AND THAT'S JUST WITH WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

BUT PART OF OUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE RANGE ITSELF, IT INVOLVES EVERYTHING A CANINE PLATFORM FOR CANINE TRAINING AND CERTIFICATIONS.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONE EVOC COURSE, AND THAT'S EASTERN FLORIDA STATE.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT'S AVAILABLE.

SO THAT PROVIDE ROADS YOU KNOW, JUST ALL OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT CAN BE USED AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE THAT COMES WITH IT.

YOU KNOW, OUR TOWER RIGHT NOW, PART OF THAT IS TO HELP MAINTAIN THE TOWER THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT WAS BUILT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

THAT'S THAT'S HAVING ISSUES WITH RIGHT NOW BEFORE I HAVE TO CLOSE IT DOWN FOR, FOR SAFETY REASONS.

SO WE HAVE 40 ACRES, GIVE OR TAKE.

SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS FOR A PROJECT THAT WE COULD KIND OF, LIKE, HAVE LOOK FOR STATE APPROPRIATIONS WITHIN THAT RANGE.

IS THERE LIKE A SPECIFIC PROJECT OUT THERE THAT WE COULD ASK FUNDING FOR THAT WOULD ENHANCE WHATEVER IT IS IN THAT? WELL, THERE ARE. AND PART OF THAT, THE FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT I MENTIONED, AND I'M NOT EVEN JUST GETTING INTO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF IT IS, IS ARE THOSE PROJECTS THERE? OKAY. SO THE RAPPELLING TOWERS, WELL, WE HAVE THE RAPPELLING TOWER.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH NOW WITH THAT MONEY.

BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CANINE PLATFORMS. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE OF COURSE THE EVAC TRAINING THAT WE REALIZED NOT EVEN JUST COUNTYWIDE, BUT THROUGHOUT CENTRAL FLORIDA, THROUGHOUT SOUTH FLORIDA, COMING UP TO USE OUR COURSE. SHOULD WE HAVE IT SO THE PROJECTS WOULD BE AVAILABLE? IN TERMS OF WHAT TO LOOK FOR TO PROPOSE? OKAY. SO IT'S JUST ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU BROTHER.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHIEF.

SO I THINK PART OF THE DISCUSSION, I THINK WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT.

AND THE REASON I'M GOING THERE, GENTLEMEN, IS THAT THE STATE'S ALREADY INVESTED IN THAT CAPACITY.

SO I THINK THEY WOULD WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO TO CONTINUE THAT GROWTH SO THAT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT WITH THAT.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT.

CAN WE ASK THE SAME TO CHIEF STOVER FOR HIS? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.

I KNOW HE HAS SOME IDEAS THAT THAT I THINK WE CAN MAYBE GO AFTER FOR HIS.

ABSOLUTELY. WE COULD.

AND THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY, I THINK.

WHAT COUNCIL? WHAT I HEARD COUNCIL.

WHAT I'M LISTENING IS THIS REHAB TRUCK IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD USE THAT MONEY FOR TRAINING ON BOTH SIDES, RIGHT.

THAT'S THAT'S A BIG.

AND CHANCES ARE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT.

BUT THE WHERE I WAS GOING IS THE MORE LIKELIHOOD OF A PROJECT GETTING THE APPROPRIATION.

AND IF THE STATE'S ALREADY INVESTED IN SOMETHING, WHICH IS WHAT I SEE WITH OUR OUR RANGE, THE PROBABILITY GOES A LITTLE HIGHER.

NOT THAT WE'LL GET IT, BUT AT LEAST I BELIEVE THEY WANT TO CONTINUE DOWN THAT PAGE.

SO ANYTHING ELSE, GENTLEMEN, THAT YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN ON? DEPUTY MAYOR, I'LL TURN TO YOU.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

ONE MORE. YES, SIR.

LIKE, FOR ANOTHER THING, WE WOULD HEAR FROM RESIDENTS TIME AND TIME AGAIN IS PROPERTY INSURANCE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ON.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ON US.

I KNOW THAT'S A A TOUCHY TOPIC, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, US WITH THE MILLAGE RATE AND EVERYTHING.

IT'S THE PROPERTY INSURANCE THAT HAS BEEN JUST ASTRONOMICAL OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

SO NOT WORTH THE DISCUSSION AT LEAST.

YEAH, THE HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE ISSUE IS WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATORS KNOW THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY HOPEFULLY THEY'LL TACKLE.

RIGHT. BUT EVEN LAST SESSION THERE WAS A RELUCTANT TO THAT, BUT THEY, THEY PUT A, AN AMENDMENT OR CHARTER AMENDMENT. I THINK IT WAS THAT NOW YOU GET AN INCREASE IN YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.

RIGHT. WE ALL VOTED FOR THAT, RIGHT? BUT WE DIDN'T ADDRESS THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE ISSUE, WHICH IS REALLY BUSTING AT THE SEAMS. MOST MOST PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE FOR THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE THAN WHAT THEY ARE IN PROPERTY TAXES.

THEY REALLY ARE.

AND I CAN I CAN ATTEST TO THAT.

SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT I'M NOT SURE US LOBBYING FOR THAT IS, IS, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WE'RE TRYING.

I'M JUST THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.

YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL. SIR? YEAH, I GOT YOU, I GOT YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? GENTLEMEN? YES, MA'AM. PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

YES. SO? SO I STARTED OFF ON THE APPROPRIATION SIDE.

I KIND OF, IN MY MIND, HAD THIS BROKEN INTO TWO SECTIONS.

SO I WANT TO GO INTO THE POLICY LEGISLATION SIDE NOW.

100% WITH YOU ON LIVE LOCAL.

THAT'S EASY. I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH LOBBYING FOR THE HOUSE BILL 1365.

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JUST WHERE I STAND ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS OR NOT, BUT I THINK I.

WELL, LET'S LET'S DISSECT THAT FOR A SECOND.

OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS THIS BILL ALREADY PASSED.

RIGHT. SO I THINK THE DISCUSSION IS THE FUNDING OF THAT BILL THAT WOULD GO TO THE COUNTIES AND THE THE MUNICIPALITIES IN EFFECT.

THEY KNOW WE CAN'T PAY FOR IT.

AND IT GOES TO THE BREVARD HOMELESS COALITION.

SO I THINK THE PART OF US IGNORING, TRYING TO DRAW THE STATE THAT CREATED THIS BILL INTO THIS LAW AND US NOT AND THEM NOT BRINGING ANY FUNDS, IS WHAT.

WELL, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS TALKING ABOUT, SO BUT I DON'T THINK THE BILL MANDATES THAT WE CREATE SHELTERS OR CREATE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.

I THINK IT ALLOWS IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT MANDATES THAT WE DO THOSE THINGS.

AND SO I KIND OF HAVE A CONCERN WITH THOSE THINGS.

AND BUT, I MEAN, IT'S JUST ME.

THERE MAY NOT BE A CONSENSUS, BUT THAT'S WHERE I STAND.

YEAH. SO.

AND THEN I HAVE TWO I HAVE TWO ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO ADD, AND, AND I'D LIKE TO ADD THEM.

A BECAUSE I THINK THAT THEY HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT, THEY WILL HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENTS.

BUT B, I BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE PIECES OF LEGISLATION THAT ARE GOING TO BE FILED BY MEMBERS OF THE BREVARD DELEGATION, AND THOSE ARE THE SAME MEMBERS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK TO FOLLOW OUR APPROPRIATIONS.

SO I THINK BY, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY BY SUPPORTING THEM, THEY'LL ALSO WANT TO SUPPORT US, BUT THESE ALSO AFFECT OUR RESIDENTS.

SO ONE ITEM THAT I KNOW IS GOING TO BE FILED, PROBABLY MULTIPLE ITEMS BY MEMBERS OF THE BREVARD DELEGATION IS THERE'S GOING TO BE SECOND AMENDMENT LEGISLATION. AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IMPACTING THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF EVERY ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS IN PALM BAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO TELL OUR LOBBYISTS THAT IF A MEMBER OF THE BREVARD DELEGATION SPONSORS OR CO-SPONSORS A SECOND AMENDMENT LEGISLATION, THAT WE AUTHORIZE THEM TO SUPPORT IT.

AND THEN ALSO, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME STUFF FOR VETERANS.

AND PARTICULARLY FOR SPACE FORCE VETERANS, GETTING THEM IN LANGUAGE SO THAT THEY GET THE SAME BENEFITS AS OTHER VETERANS.

AND SO I THINK IT WOULD BE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE SPACE FORCE MEMBERS AND VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO AUTHORIZE OUR LOBBYISTS TO ALSO SUPPORT THOSE INITIATIVES.

I THINK THOSE LETTERS OF SUPPORT WOULD COME FROM THIS DIET.

SO I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED BY THAT SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT.

LET'S SAY THE BREVARD DELEGATION SPONSORS THAT THIS COUNCIL CAN COME TO THIS DAIS AND SAY, HEY, I WANT THE MAYOR TO SIGN.

I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS.

I WANT THE MAYOR TO SIGN THIS ON BEHALF OF OUR CITY.

AND THAT'S HOW WE WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, RIGHT.

SO THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE AND I WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING ON BRINGING THOSE UP AS WELL.

BUT THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE. SO IF WE DO A RESOLUTION THAT'S GREAT.

AND I'M GOING TO BRING THOSE UP AS WELL.

BUT THEN THE RESOLUTION WILL GO TO THE MEMBER, AND THEN THE MEMBER CAN KIND OF DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH IT IF THEY WANT TO USE IT TO LOBBY ON THEIR OWN.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS I WANT TO AUTHORIZE OUR CITY LOBBYISTS THAT WE'RE PAYING TO ALSO LOBBY FOR THOSE PIECES OF LEGISLATION.

I SEE, I SEE, I SEE.

OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? I'M GOOD. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

YEP. THAT'S IT FOR ME.

WITH. WITH HOUSE BILL 1365.

WHAT IT IS. AND WE'LL GET INTO IT LATER THIS MONTH.

BUT IT WAS PRETTY MUCH AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN SUE THE CITY IF THEIR BUSINESS IS IMPACTED.

SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON US.

SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? SO THAT'S WHERE CITIES ARE SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE PUTTING THIS MANDATE ON US.

ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO THE SAME POINT? THAT'S WHERE I'M LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES OF IT.

SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN HERE FOR DECADES AND THE POPULATION OF HOMELESS HAS JUST INCREASED.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? SO THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN VERY VOCAL ON TRYING TO GET THE CHURCHES INVOLVED AND GET OTHERS INVOLVED THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, PUT A DENT IN THE HOMELESS POPULATION INSTEAD OF JUST CONTINUING TO FUND THE SAME NONPROFITS THAT COME EVERY YEAR FOR FUNDING.

SO YEAH. YEAH, I'M GOOD MAYOR.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. JUST TO COMMENT ON FUTURE LEGISLATION, I'M NOT I'M A SECOND AMENDMENT FAN SUPPORTER, BUT TO ENGAGE OUR LOBBYISTS OBVIOUS NOW ON LANGUAGE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I THINK IT'S A LITTLE EARLY FOR THAT.

I WOULD TO MARY'S POINT, LIKE I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LANGUAGE LOOKED LIKE AND THEN WE COULD SUPPORT IT IN THE FUTURE AS A DIOCESE.

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MR. ROBINSON.

YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF WHERE WE WANT TO WANT TO LAND? I WOULD, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

MAYOR, CAN WE GET A CAN WE MAYBE RUN THROUGH THE ITEMS FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES SO WE KNOW WHERE WE SHOULD SPEND OUR PRIORITIES? YES, SIR. I'LL START.

THE VERY FIRST ONE.

WATER QUALITY.

I THINK FROM WHAT I'M HEARING.

PALM BAY. SEPTIC TO SEWER.

WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

THAT'S A UNANIMOUS.

OKAY. THE REHAB TRUCK IS A NEGATIVE, HOWEVER SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

SO, ARE WE OKAY WITH THE MEADOWBROOK WATER QUALITY? YES. OKAY. THE WATER QUALITY? YES, SIR. I. OKAY.

I SAID YEAH ON THAT.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

OKAY. SO THEN I ONLY GOT 15 MINUTES, SIR.

AND THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY REHABILITATION TRUCK IS A NEGATIVE.

AND WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE ANYTHING WITH PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE RANGE.

AND IF THE CHIEF CAN ADD SOMETHING TO THAT THAT WOULD BE A PLUS.

THE FIBER OPTIC I HEARD.

YES. BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE NOT ONLY OUR, OUR COMMUNICATION, BUT EVERYONE ELSE.

RIGHT. LIVE LOCAL.

WE WE ALL.

THIS IS UNANIMOUS.

WE WANT TO TRY AND GET THAT STRICKEN OR AN AMENDMENT.

RIGHT. HOUSE BILL 1365, I THINK WE'RE WE'RE A LITTLE I STILL THINK IT'S 3 TO 2 TO TRY AND MASSAGE THIS. WE'LL KNOW BETTER AFTER THE WORKSHOP.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO IT'S SAFE TO SAY YES, MA'AM.

YEAH. DID YOU WANT TO? YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD.

DEPUTY CITY MANAGER JONES.

I'M SORRY, I JUST I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO TRY AND GET A LITTLE BIT CLEAR CONSENSUS, BECAUSE WHAT WILL FOLLOW AFTER THIS IS STAFF AND I WILL PREPARE THE HOUSE AND.

OKAY. COPY THAT.

SO CARRY ON. ON EVERY ITEM THAT WE DO GET IT.

OKAY. IF I CAN GO BACK TO THE STORMWATER ITEMS, THE MEADOWBROOK PROJECT THAT DOES HAVE A REQUEST FROM STAFF TO USE 800,000 FROM THE STORMWATER FUND AS A MATCH FOR THE REQUEST.

IF THE FUND IF THE STATE APPROPRIATIONS ARE NOT AWARDED TO THE CITY, THOSE FUNDS WOULD GO BACK TO THE STORMWATER FUND.

CORRECT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THAT VOTE INCLUDED AS WELL.

YOU NEED A VOTE OR YOU NEED CONSENSUS.

CENSUS. THEY AGREED ON EQUALITY, BUT NOT ON THE MATCH.

SO AS LONG AS I HAVE.

I'M IN AGREEMENT. I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH $800,000 MATCH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOING FOR 2 MILLION.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT SOLIDIFIES, INCREASES OUR CHANCES OF GETTING IT.

AND THE SAME THING WITH OUR FIBER OPTIC SEPTIC TO SEWER CONVERSIONS.

WHEN THEY SEE WE GOT SKIN IN THE GAME, THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO TO PROVIDE IT, SO.

YES, MA'AM. PUBLIC SAFETY FIRST RESPONDER REHAB TRUCK IS A BIG NO, BUT WE'RE ASKING PALM BAY PD AND PALM BAY FIRE RESCUE TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING PUBLIC SAFETY RELATED PALM BAY RESILIENCY, FIBER OPTIC EXPANSION.

THERE'S A CITY MATCH.

I THINK WE COULD GET THAT.

WHAT? I'M.

I'M IN AGREEMENT.

THIS IS JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO SECURE OUR CITY'S FACILITIES.

WOODY'S RIGHT. LIVE LOCAL.

IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOU, MA'AM? AM I AM I GOING TOO FAST? NOPE. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT THEN.

LIVE LOCAL ACT, I THINK.

WAS THAT CLEAR? YES, SIR. OKAY.

HOUSE BILL WILL KNOW MORE WHEN WE.

WE HAVE IT IN TWO WEEKS, DON'T WE, GENTLEMEN? DECEMBER 16TH. RIGHT.

HOUSE BILL 1365.

WE'LL KNOW MORE. AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCREASE IN SHIP ALLOCATIONS FOR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

I'M A YES ON THAT.

THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS CREATE WEALTH FOR PROPERTY OWNERS.

INCREASED ANNUAL FUNDING TO THE HOMETOWN HEROES PROGRAM.

ANY COMMENT ON THOSE? I'M IN FAVOR. OKAY.

OKAY. SO WHERE ARE WE? IS THAT CLEAR? NOW, DID I COVER EVERYTHING? MAY I ASK ONE MORE? YEAH. GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE REQUESTS FROM COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ON THE LEGISLATION THAT PREEMPTS THE CITY'S ABILITY TO ADDRESS CONSTITUENT CONCERNS. I DON'T KNOW THAT I GOT CLEAR CONSENSUS ON THAT.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AS WELL.

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AND OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY IS LIMITED IN GOING OUT AND REPEATING THE INSPECTION, THAT RECENT LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL TO WORK ON THAT LEGISLATION AS WELL AS DO I UNDERSTAND IT? YES. THAT'S THAT'S A PORTION OF THAT'S A PORTION OF IT, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP WITH THIS COUNCIL AND PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

AND JUST ANY OTHER LEGISLATION THAT STAFF OR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SEES THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, CHANGED OR, YOU KNOW, GIVE US MORE TOOLS TO WORK WITH MAYOR. THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM, SINCE YOU'RE ON POLICY LIKE THAT, RIGHT, IS I KNOW THAT A FEW YEARS AGO WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ENTERPRISE FUND IN PARTICULAR, THAT WE COULDN'T CARRY THAT OVER.

AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? THE. YEAH.