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[CALL TO ORDER]
ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.THIS IS THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
MEET THE REGULAR BOARD MEETING FOR DECEMBER.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU'LL JOIN ME.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AWESOME. AND THEN NOW WE CAN DO.
I THINK IT FINISHED IN NOVEMBER.
OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT? WAS THAT A LARGE OR A ONE OF THE SHE WAS APPOINTED BY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT DISTRICT? I'M SORRY. DO YOU KNOW WHAT DISTRICT OR WHICH WHICH SEAT? NO, NO. OKAY, COOL.
THANK YOU. SO WE'LL OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT FOR NON AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.
ALL RIGHT. 20 PEOPLE OUT HERE.
NO ONE WANTS TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT.
[NEW BUSINESS]
SO WE'LL GO INTO NEW BUSINESS.SO WE'LL START WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN THIS MONTH.
WE WERE GOING TO DO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS. AND WE DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
IT SHOULD BE FINE. THAT'S FINE.
OKAY. IS THAT WELL THEN IS THAT OKAY WITH THE BOARD? HEAR THE PRESENTATION FIRST.
AND WE HAVE A. AGAIN? OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH.
THE SLIDES. LET ME COME OUT HERE.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE BECAUSE I KNOW SUSAN HAS BEEN HOUNDING US TO BE HERE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
I'M LISA FRAZIER, I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
AND WITH ME THIS EVENING IS KIM HAGLER, ONE OF MY SENIOR PLANNERS.
KIM AND I WORKED TOGETHER SINCE 2017 BACK IN THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN.
AND WE'RE BOTH ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNERS BY BY DEGREE AND AND EXPERIENCE.
SO BACK IN, SEBASTIAN, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS LITTLE STORY BECAUSE IT DOES KIND OF HELP YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE AS WE DO OUR SONG AND DANCE THAT WHEN I WHEN KIM CAME ON BOARD IN SEBASTIAN, WE HAD A NATURAL RESOURCE BOARD.
SO WERE YOU ON? WHEN DID YOU GET ON THE BOARD? 18. 19, MAYBE.
SO IN 2017, WHEN I TOOK OVER IN SEBASTIAN, THE DNB WAS A LITTLE DISENFRANCHIZED AND AND DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEIR ROLES COULD BE IN THE CITY.
THEY REALLY WANTED TO DO MORE.
CORRECT. AND ALL THEY WERE DOING WAS PUTTING ON THE EARTH DAY FAIR IN APRIL.
SO KIM CAME ON BOARD AND WE'RE LIKE, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO TO ENGAGE THESE INDIVIDUALS? AND SHE WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD.
WE CAME UP WITH AND COINED SUSTAINABLE SEBASTIAN.
AND WE CAME UP WITH THE THE WORK PLAN, IF YOU WILL.
WE WORKED, I SHOULD SAY WE DIDN'T MAKE IT ALL OURSELVES.
THEY HELPED US COME UP WITH THE GOALS AND THE POLICIES, AND WE MADE SURE THAT IT BECAME A RESOLUTION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, SO THAT THEY KNEW THAT THIS BOARD WAS REALLY AN ENGAGED ESSENTIAL.
WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY? ADVISORY GROUP FOR THE COUNCIL.
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SO THEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HELPED US DO AS WE UPDATED OUR COMP PLAN, THEY WERE VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN GIVING US THEIR THEIR INPUT ON THE TWO ELEMENTS OF OF COASTAL MANAGEMENT AND CONSERVATION AS WE UPDATED ANY OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.DOES THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE.
WE'D LOVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE LOVE ADVISORY BOARDS.
YOU ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND GETTING THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT FOR THE WORK WE DO IS ALWAYS ESSENTIAL TO MAKE IT YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, YOUR PLANS, RIGHT? BECAUSE IT'S NOT OURS, IT'S YOURS.
SO WITH THAT THIS IS A A POWERPOINT.
WHEN DID WE FIRST PUT THAT? WAS THAT FIRST FOR SEBASTIAN? THAT WAS IN 20 FOR SEBASTIAN.
OKAY. WE PUT THIS TOGETHER FOR THE CITY OF SEBASTIAN FOR AN IRB AND PRESENTED IT TO THEM.
CORRECT. AND THEN WE TOOK SOME OF THOSE IDEAS AND WE PUT IT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
SO AND ACTUALLY AS PART OF OUR STORMWATER FEE CREDIT PROGRAM.
SO ONLY TWO POLICIES AND IN OUR CODE, OUR UPDATED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE DO WE HAVE INCENTIVIZED OUR LIDS AND GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND KIM REWROTE THE ENTIRE LANDSCAPE CODE.
AND I THINK SHE ADDED SOME GREAT INCENTIVES IN THERE AND GREAT.
WHAT I WOULD SAY PROTECTIVE PRESERVATION COMPONENTS YOU WILL SEE.
AND I'M PROBABLY GOING COMPLETELY OFF YOUR AGENDA, MR. LEWIS, IS AM I SAYING THAT CORRECT? I'M SO SORRY.
IT'S MY WANT, I DO I TALK? SO ANYWAYS BUT I WANTED TO JUST POINT OUT SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE DID PUT IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, AND I'LL DO THAT NOW.
AND THEN I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN AND KIM'S GOING TO TAKE OVER.
BUT SOME OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE ARE VERY PROUD OF IS THE INCENTIVES THAT WE ADDED.
WE, WE PUT IN, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE, IN THE LANDSCAPE CODE, WE'VE ALSO INCENTIVIZED TREE PROTECTION.
YOU CAN REDUCE YOUR PARKING SPACES IF YOU SAVE SOME TREES.
ALSO IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE HAVE ALWAYS REQUIRED OPEN SPACE, BUT WE REDEFINED OPEN SPACE SO THAT IT CAN CAPTURE OUR LIDS, SUCH AS IF YOU PUT IN A SWALE OR SOME TYPE OF TREATMENT TRAIN, IF YOU WILL, FOR YOUR STORMWATER, IF YOU KEEP A WIDER BUFFER WITH NATIVE LANDSCAPING, IF YOU ACTUALLY PROTECT AN AREA WITH NATIVE LANDSCAPING, THOSE THINGS CAN COUNT TOWARDS YOUR OPEN SPACE. THAT'S A BATTLE WE FIGHT DAILY WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
THEY DON'T WANT ANY OPEN SPACE AT ALL.
WHAT ELSE DID WE DO THAT WAS GRAND IN HERE? KIM, YOU GOT ANY THOUGHTS? OUR TREE. I THINK THOSE WERE THE BIG HIGHLIGHTED ONES, DON'T YOU? ALLOWING CREDIT FOR TREES THAT ARE SAVED OVER 13IN D.B.H.
SO THEY KEEP ONE TREE THAT'S 28IN.
SO THEY GET CREDIT FOR FOUR OF THE REQUIRED TREES.
SO INSTEAD OF GETTING FOUR TWO INCH TREES, THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE FOREVER TO GET THERE.
TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE THE HABITAT THAT THAT ONE TREE PROVIDES.
AND THAT'S A NEW INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
OH, AND WE DISALLOWED THE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
SO THEY HAVE TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT ALL APPROVED BEFORE THEY CAN GO ON TO THAT LOT AND CLEAR CUT PREVIOUS TO NOW, THEY COULD JUST CLEAR IT BECAUSE THEY DO A LOT OF THAT FOR REAL ESTATE SALES. YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW THEY WANT TO CLEAR IT ALL OUT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WILL SEE A CLEARED LOT.
I'D RATHER SEE A BIG TREE, BUT HEY, THAT'S ME.
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ANYWHO SO WE MADE THAT CHANGE, AND THERE WAS ANOTHER IMPORTANT ONE THAT I KNOW THAT WAS ESSENTIAL TO A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE. OH, THE IRRIGATION IS IS INCREDIBLY ESSENTIAL.PREVIOUS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WE WERE ALLOWING POTABLE WATER TO BE UTILIZED FOR IRRIGATION, WHICH IS A BIG DRAIN ON OUR UTILITY AND OUR SERVICES.
NOW YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH YOUR OWN SOURCE, EITHER PROVIDE A COMMUNAL WELL OR YOU CAN YOU CAN BRING OR PULL FROM THE PONDS THEMSELVES. RIGHT.
SO SOW OR PLANT NATIVES AND JUST WATER THEM FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND LET THEM GO.
IF YOU DON'T SURVIVE. SORRY, THAT'S MY YARD.
ALWAYS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS ITERATIVE.
IT CHANGES ALL OF THE TIME, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT AGAIN, CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF IT, CERTAIN CHAPTERS, AND PERHAPS GO OVER THEM WITH YOU AND, AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND DO SOME TWEAKING IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENGAGE WITH YOU.
NOW WE'LL HAVE KIM YOU KNOW HOW TO USE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
THIS IS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH YOU KNOW ABOUT LAND, SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT LIKE LID 101 HERE.
AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THERE ARE NO DUMB QUESTIONS.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. ARE YOU A GATOR.
YEAH I SAW THE I SAW THE THE TIE ON THE BACK, THE GIVING TUESDAY TIE.
SO I WAS LIKE I THINK ON YOUR. OH.
YEAH. YOU SHOULD SEE MY OFFICE.
SO START WITH A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
THIS IS THE TRADITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS WERE USED TO JUST.
THAT'S THE PIPES, THE PUMPS, THE LINE DITCHES, THE CATCH BASINS THAT LEAD TO THE DETENTION OR RETENTION PONDS NATURAL SYSTEMS. SORRY. 6.7 TRILLION IS NEEDED FOR WATER SUPPLY INFRASTRUCTURE BY 2030.
AS WE KNOW, HIGH INTENSITY STORM EVENTS ARE GETTING MORE FREQUENT AND ARE MORE INTENSE.
AND WITH THAT, AGING STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T HOLDING UP TO THE WHAT WOULD BE CALLED A ONE INCH 50 YEAR STORM IS REALLY BECOME LIKE A ONE INCH TEN YEAR STORM. SO IT'S BECOME A REAL COSTLY PROBLEM FOR MUNICIPALITIES AND GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
AND THEY SAY BY 2050, NEARLY 20% OF THE WORLD'S POPULATION WILL BE AT RISK OF FLOODS.
I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY LARGE STATISTIC THAT MAKES IT CLEAR THE PROBLEM WE HAVE, OF COURSE, WITH THE RECENT STORMS THIS YEAR, I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT ANYONE COULD BE AT RISK OF FLOODS.
YOU CAN GET FLOODED IN THE MOUNTAINS, RIGHT? SO THE NEED IS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO FIND NEW WAYS.
YOU KNOW, THE OLD SYSTEM OF THESE, THE GUTTERS AND DITCHES LEADING TO GIANT RETENTION PONDS.
THEY DON'T WORK AS EFFECTIVELY AS WHEN THEY'RE INSTALLED.
THEY WILL NEVER WORK THAT WELL.
SO THEY SAY THAT SOMETHING LIKE WITHIN TEN YEARS, IT'S AT HALF THE CAPACITY IT SHOULD BE, BECAUSE JUST THE SEDIMENTS BUILD UP AND THE STORMWATER SYSTEM JUST NEVER WORKS THE SAME.
THIS IS A REALLY NEAT, A REALLY TELLING GRAPHIC IMAGE OF THE COCOA BEACH 1956 VERSUS TODAY.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY SORT OF THEY HARDEN ALL THE SHORELINES AND THEY ADD FILL DIRT AND THEY CREATE LIVABLE AREAS WHERE WAS ONCE MARSHLAND.
AND AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE SEE AS MUCH OF NOW AS FAR AS THAT EXPANDING.
BUT THIS IS HOW WE CREATE THESE PROBLEMS. AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT INCREASES NON-POINT POLLUTION.
SO THE LESS PLACES YOU HAVE TO STORE AS YOU STORE WATER IN, LIKE AS A WETLAND OR A LAKE IS HOLDING WATER, IT'S TREATING IT THROUGH THE SOILS AND THE VEGETATION.
AND SO IF IT'S GOING FROM A DITCH TO A POND THAT CAN'T HOLD IT, AND IMMEDIATELY INTO AN OVERFLOW, TO A STRAIGHT CANAL, TO THE RIVER, TO THE LAGOON, AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE SEE A LOT OF THE NON-POINT POLLUTION, THAT NON-POINT POLLUTION MEANS THERE'S NO EXACT SOURCE.
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IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S FROM A CHEMICAL PLANT.AND THERE'S CHEMICALS, IT'S NUTRIENTS, AND THEY COME FROM A NUMBER OF PLACES.
THEY CAN COME FROM YARDS AND AND THE STORMWATER OR TOXIC OR HEAVY METALS WASHING OFF THE ROADS.
SO IMPERVIOUS SURFACES LIKE PAVEMENT AND ROOFTOPS LIKE A CITY BLOCK, WILL GENERATE FIVE TIMES MORE RUNOFF THAN A WOODLAND AREA OF THE SAME SIZE.
RIGHT? THE GRAPHIC ON THE BOTTOM IS IS HAS A GREAT WAY OF ILLUSTRATING THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN JUST HAVING TREES AND GRASSES ARE BASICALLY SPONGES, AND YOU GO FROM HAVING A SPONGE TO HAVING JUST THE GRAY.
SO GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE FIRST PLACE TO START REALLY IS IT'S THE CONSERVATION OF NATURAL AND MAN MADE LANDSCAPES. SO IT CAN BE A LINEAR GARDEN ALONG A TRAIL THAT CONNECTS A WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA AND A IN A PUBLIC PARK.
AND WHILE THE PATHWAYS MAY NOT SEEM LIKE LIKE NATURAL HABITAT AS MUCH, THEY'RE CORRIDORS.
SO THEY SERVE AS CORRIDORS FOR THE WILDLIFE TO SPREAD, TO GET GENETIC DIVERSITY.
AND IT CREATES A CONNECTIVITY OF HABITAT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT.
BUT YOU SEE THIS WETLAND CONSERVATION AREA SURROUNDED BY ACRES OF OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
AND THEN YOU'RE THINKING, OKAY, BUT HOW IS THE WILDLIFE GETTING THERE? AND THEN HOW IS IT GETTING AWAY FROM THERE WITHOUT PUTTING ITSELF IN DANGER? RIGHT. AND SO LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S THE APPROACH TO DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO REDEVELOPMENT.
SO WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THIS AS JUST, WELL, THAT NEW SUBDIVISION.
WE ALSO REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THIS IN THE EXISTING SITES, LIKE THESE GIANT PARKING LOTS THAT WERE DONE IN THE 80S THERE THAT ARE THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR BLACK FRIDAY IN 1995.
LIKE NO ONE'S EVER USING THOSE PARKING ANYMORE.
AND SO WE LOOK AT WAYS THAT THEY CAN RETROFIT, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN LOOK INTO REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND ACTUALLY FACILITATES REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BECAUSE NOW THEY CAN LOOK AT THEIR SPACE DIFFERENTLY, THEY CAN PULL UP THAT PARKING, THEY CAN ADD YOU KNOW, STORMWATER STORAGE UNDERNEATH OR ADD TREATMENT RAIN GARDENS AND DIFFERENT.
AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE SOME OF THESE ITEMS TOGETHER, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT A NATURAL TREATMENT TRAIN.
RIGHT. THAT'S SO IT'S LIKE THE, THE GRASS, THE FIELD AND THE TREES THAT COLLECT THE WATER.
AND ALL OF THOSE ARE ARE TREATING AND STORING THOSE NUTRIENTS IN THE WATER.
AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IN, IN, IN LID IS WE HAVE TO RECREATE THAT IN A MAN MADE WAY.
AND HERE ARE SOME PROJECT EXAMPLES YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH.
THE TREE BOX AT THE TOP LEFT THERE.
THAT IS WHERE BASICALLY A BIG SUBMIT BOX, BUT IT ALSO HAS STORAGE FOR WATER.
ALL THAT WATER IS BEING SENT TO THOSE TREE WELLS WHERE THEY CAN STORE IN THERE AND BE TREATED.
AND THEN THAT, THAT THE WATER OVERFLOWS DOWN AND TO ALL BE CONNECTED, AND EVENTUALLY THAT THOSE WILL LEAD TO A POND AT THE END AND THE PERVIOUS SIDEWALK.
AND THE SAME IDEA UNDERNEATH THAT IS GOING TO BE SOME ACTIVATED MEDIA OR PEBBLES, OR LEAD IT TO A CONVEYANCE UNDER UNDERNEATH THE GROUND THAT LEADS TO THE TREE WELLS, THAT LEADS TO A POND.
AND THEN SOME OF THESE THAT ARE REALLY EASY.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE REALLY EASY TO RETROFIT INTO A SITE.
THE CURB EXTENSION, BASICALLY, YOU PUSH THE CURB OUT AND THEN YOU MAKE WHERE ALL THE WATER THAT WOULD DRAIN INTO THOSE STORMWATER DRAINS INTO THE, ALONG THE ROAD.
YOU THAT WATER IS DIRECTED NOW INTO A RAIN GARDEN WHERE IT RUNS THROUGH THE RAIN GARDEN BEFORE IT GETS AND FILL UP TO A CERTAIN POINT BEFORE IT OVERFLOWS INTO A CATCH BASIN, WHICH MAY BE INTO A TREE.
WELL, IT MAY BE INTO A CONVEYANCE TO SEE HOW THIS WE'RE CREATING.
THOSE TREATMENT DRAINS MAN MADE SO BUT REPLICATING NATURAL PROCESSES AND BIO RETENTION WOULD BE
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LIKE THE DETENTION AREA, AS YOU SEE NOW, THE DRY DETENTION AREAS, BUT THEY'RE JUST GRASS AND MODE, AND THAT'S NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS HAVING VEGETATION.SO WHEN YOU ADD NATIVE VEGETATION IN THESE AREAS, GRASS.
THINK OF IT. GRASS HAS A ROOT SYSTEM THAT'S MAYBE A COUPLE INCHES, BUT IF YOU HAVE NATIVE PLANTS, YOU HAVE A ROOT SYSTEM THAT GOES MUCH DEEPER, THAT HELPS THE WATER INFILTRATE BETTER, HELPS TREAT THE WATER BETTER.
IT TAKES UP THE NUTRIENTS IT USES THEM TO GROW.
IT'S MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE THAN SOD, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY INVASIVE.
AND JUST BY MAKING THAT DEPRESSION AREA WHERE THE WATER GATHERS AND THEN PLANTING THAT WATER FRIENDLY VEGETATION AND IT JUST IT GIVES THE WATER A PLACE INSTEAD OF RUNNING INTO THE ROAD, YOU'RE HOLDING IT AND YOU'RE MAKING A POND AND YOU'RE CREATING A LITTLE HABITAT.
SO THERE ARE MANY ENVIRONMENTAL BUT ALSO ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING A CHALLENGE TO GET, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS TO SEE THAT IT'S A BENEFIT.
YOU KNOW THAT THAT YOU KNOW, THEY WANT LESS PARKING SPACES THEY WANT.
BUT I MEAN, IT IMPROVES THE WATER QUALITY, BUT ALSO REDUCES THE NUMBER OF COSTLY FLOODING EVENTS THAT AFFECT THE AREA OF THE RESTORED AQUATIC HABITAT, IMPROVED GROUNDWATER RECHARGE MITIGATE THAT URBAN HEAT ISLAND EFFECT.
IT ALSO REDUCES AIR POLLUTION, INCREASES INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THEY IS OFTEN A CHALLENGE FOR THEM TO SEE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN A PLACE THAT HAS MORE NATIVE VEGETATION AND MORE HABITAT LIKE THIS, AND IT CREATES A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY WHEN IT'S DONE PROPERLY AND MAINTAINED.
SO IT REDUCES THE STORMWATER TO THE WATERWAYS, REDUCES THE POLLUTANTS, RECHARGES THE LOCAL AQUIFER, THE SOIL MICROBES, THEY INCREASE THE HOLDING CAPACITY OF THE NUTRIENTS AND WATER.
AND THEN THIS IS A NEAT TABLE.
IT SHOWS SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PRACTICES ALONG THE TOP.
AND THEN IT SHOWS, I MEAN ALONG THE LEFT AND THEN ALONG THE TOP.
IT SHOWS WHAT WHAT THAT CAN DO.
SO A GREEN ROOF CAN ALSO BE A COMMUNITY GARDEN CAN ALSO IMPROVES AIR QUALITY.
SO THE BENEFITS GIVEN ARE ALONG THE, YOU KNOW ALONG.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE THE BENEFITS.
IT ISN'T JUST PERMEABLE PAVEMENT IS IT JUST ABOUT IMPROVING WATER QUALITY.
IT HAS IT ALSO IS IMPROVES THE HABITAT.
IT ALSO CREATES A PUBLIC EDUCATION OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS WHAT ALL OF THESE ARE.
SO SOME OF THE MAIN PRINCIPLES OF, OF THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES FOR GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE OR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS THAT IT MINIMIZES IMPERVIOUS FOOTPRINT, WHICH IS THE MAIN THING YOU WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT SPONGINESS AND THE THE AREA THAT CAN ABSORB WATER, TREAT WATER, PRESERVE THE SITE, TREES AND NATURAL AREAS.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THE LANDSCAPING CODE IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME OF THESE TREES WOULDN'T QUALIFY FOR CREDITS AS THEY ARE, BUT IF YOU SAVE TEN OF THEM IN A IN AN AREA, THEN YOU'RE PRESERVING HABITAT.
THEN WE CAN GIVE YOU SOME CREDITS.
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO SAVE THE EXISTING TREES.
THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT AND WALKWAYS AND DRIVEWAYS.
WHEN YOU ELEVATE A STRUCTURE LIKE, THEN YOU'RE KEEPING PERVIOUS UNDERNEATH IT.
AND THERE'S I, WE SAW AN EXAMPLE OF ONE.
SO IT DID LIKE A, LIKE A POND UNDERNEATH.
BUT THEN IT ALSO RAN INTO LIKE A CATCH BASIN AND THEN RAN TO A POND.
BUT IT I MEAN, THEY SAID IT KEPT 100% OF THE WATER ON ON THE SITE WAS REALLY INCREDIBLE.
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KNOW ABOUT THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT AND CAN GET VERY HOT.AND THAT'S THOSE THOSE BLACK ROOFTOPS AND GRAY ROOFTOPS AND PAVEMENT AND ALL THOSE THINGS BUT THEY ACTUALLY THEY THEY ABSORB ALL THAT HEAT AND ADD TO THE HEAT THAT'S IN THE ATMOSPHERE.
WELL, WHEN YOU MAKE THEM GREEN, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.
AND THERE ARE SOME GREAT SITES TO LEARN MORE INFORMATION.
I REALLY LIKE MARK'S WEBSITE ON LID, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF LINKS TO THESE OTHER SITES THAT EPA AND NPR, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE SOME GREAT SUMMARIES AND SOME GREAT EXAMPLES OF OTHER LID PLANS THAT ARE REALLY NEAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT WAS THE LAST STUFF, BUT.
I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I HAVE A STATEMENT.
THANK YOU. THIS WAS EXCELLENT.
AND BECAUSE IT CAPTURES IT VERY SUCCINCTLY AND AND WHAT IS IN MY MIND.
SO MISS FRAZIER SAID IN THE BEGINNING, YOU ALL BEING WITH THE GROWTH AND LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WANTING TO ENGAGE WITH US, PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD TO HELP EACH OTHER.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS THINKING OF IS ALL THE WAYS THAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES HAVE RECENTLY BEEN REVISED TO INCORPORATE BASED ON CITIZEN AND DEVELOPER AND INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
I JUST SAW HIM FLASHING GREEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE SOMEBODY COULD PICK UP THAT MANUAL AND QUICKLY KNOW.
AND ALSO A CHART FORMAT SHOWING WHICH CODES HAVE BEEN CHANGED TO INCORPORATE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SO INTERESTED IN TREES.
JUST LIKE A BOOK WHERE THEY COULD OPEN IT.
AND AND I'M THINKING TOO, IN TERMS WE'VE TALKED TO THE COMMUNICATION PEOPLE HERE THAT WAYS OF MORE REGULARLY RELEASING PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS OR GOING BEFORE COUNCIL WITH LITTLE SHORT EXAMPLES AND THINGS.
I THINK THIS GIVES A VERY GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO TO BE GREATER TOGETHER AND ALSO TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC WITH THE ULTIMATE GOAL OF GETTING LOCAL DEVELOPERS NOT VOLUNTEER, YOU KNOW? YES, VOLUNTARILY, BUT I WOULD THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE CAN DO.
THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN WITH ALL THIS HAPPENING.
IT'S A KIND OF A QUESTION MARK IN MY MIND.
WHY WOULD A DEVELOPER NOT? SO I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONTINUING DISCUSSION OR WAYS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE WHAT WE HAVE EASILY AND QUICKLY. AND THERE IS THERE IS DEFINITELY A DISCONNECT BETWEEN LED OUTREACH AND THE DEVELOPERS.
I MEAN, I ATTENDED THE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE MEETING AT MRC.
RIGHT. AND WE SURVEYED THE ROOM AND WE SAW ONE ENGINEER.
IT'S LIKE, WHAT ARE WE HERE FOR? IF THE ENGINEERS AREN'T GOING TO, YOU KNOW, LEARN.
BUT, YOU KNOW I THINK THAT YOU'VE SEEN THINGS, WE'VE SEEN THINGS LIKE THERE'S A NEW STORMWATER RULE THAT CAME DOWN FROM THE STATE AND AND SOME OF OUR CHANGES IN CODES MAY NOT BE LISTED AS GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT WHEN YOU WHEN YOU START ENHANCING THE GREEN SPACES AND LIMITING WHAT CAN COUNT AS GREEN SPACES AND ENHANCING THE THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS AND ITEMS LIKE THIS, PLUS THE NEW STORMWATER RULE, WHICH IS COMPLICATED.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SORT OF A SQUEEZE INTO IT.
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AND THE ONLY WAY, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN IS TO BECOME MORE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT CONSCIOUS AND AND UTILIZE IT AND ADAPT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES EVEN FURTHER.SO AGAIN, I'M HOPING TO START A DISCUSSION WITH ACTION STEPS THAT WE CAN MAYBE START SOME OF THESE THINGS. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF YOUR WORKSHOP WHEN YOU DID A WORKSHOP THAT YOU COLLABORATED TO, AND WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE BOARDS AND THE CITIZENS AS A WAY OF ALL OF US HAVING A AN IDEA AND ALL OF US GETTING EXCITED BY ONE ANOTHER AND WORKING TOGETHER AND EXPANDING WHAT WE CAN DO.
ANYONE ELSE? I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE, WE HAD BEEN ASKING BACK ALONG BEFORE TURNOVER AND EVERYTHING.
THE NEW BUILDING IS AND AS YOU KNOW, USING.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICIZE, LIKE SUSAN WAS SAYING, AND I AGREE, I SAY WE SHOULD PUT SOME EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE OUT THERE. ONCE WE GET TO THAT POINT THE TWO PARKING AREAS THAT ARE BEING ADDED TO THE SITE BOTH OF THEM ARE GOING TO HAVE UNDERWATER STORMWATER STORAGE.
OH, NICE. SO WHAT IT IS, IS IT'S LIKE A SERIES OF OF OF LIKE THEY ALL DRAIN INTO THESE UNDERWATER STORAGE SYSTEM THAT BASICALLY TREATS IT BEFORE IT MOVES IT.
BUT IT'S BASICALLY IT'S DESIGNED TO HOLD ALL OF THE DRAINAGE THAT'S GOING TO COME OFF OF THE NEW IMPERVIOUS THAT'S BEING ADDED TO THE SITE, SO THAT WE AREN'T PUTTING ANY ADDITIONAL WATER OUT INTO THE MELBOURNE.
AND IS THAT POND? THAT POND IS WE DO NOT DRAIN TO THAT RIGHT.
WE HAVE CONTROL OF IT, BUT IT BELONGS.
IT'S FOR THE ROAD. IT'S FOR MALABAR.
OH, OKAY. NOTHING FROM THE SITE DRAINS TO IT.
I MEAN, EXCEPT WHAT'S RIGHT THERE.
BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SHARE THAT WITH THE PUBLIC BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD PROBABLY ENCOURAGE OTHER PEOPLE TO SAY, OH, MAYBE WE COULD DO THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEY'RE ALSO THEY'RE REEVALUATING THE LANDSCAPING.
AND WITH IRRIGATION WAS A CONCERN.
THAT CAN BE USED FOR THE IRRIGATION OF THESE NEW AREAS BECAUSE THEY'RE FAR OUT FROM THE BUILDING.
IT'S ALSO A RAIN GARDEN, SORT OF.
THAT WAS MY SECOND QUESTION, BECAUSE WHEN I WAS SPEAKING WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING THEY THEY WERE SAYING FLORIDA FRIENDLY PLANTS WERE GOING TO BE USED, AND THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN FLORIDA FRIENDLY AND NATIVE PLANTS.
ARE YOU HELPING WITH THAT? WELL, THEY ARE WE'RE ENCOURAGING NATIVES BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO THERE'S A DIFFICULTY IN BRINGING WATER OUT TO THESE AREAS, TO THIS AREA AROUND THE NEW PARKING AREA. SO WE ALL KNOW THAT NATIVES ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST LIKELY TO ESTABLISH AND THRIVE IN A LOWER WATER ENVIRONMENT.
ANYTHING FLORIDA FRIENDLY IS ACCEPTABLE AS WELL.
RIGHT. NATIVES ARE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED, BUT THE FLORIDA-FRIENDLY PLANTS, THEY DON'T OUT COMPETE AND THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DON'T SEED OR SPREAD, SO THEY DON'T NECESSARILY PROVIDE ANY THING PRODUCTIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENT EITHER.
SO AND YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE NATIVE GARDEN THAT WE ARE IN BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
RIGHT? SO MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO TIE IN YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN WITH THAT AT SOME POINT.
YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE SIGNAGE OUT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING AND THE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT AND ALL THAT.
AT THIS POINT, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PERVIOUS PAVEMENT OUT THERE.
OH, OKAY. BUT THAT IS YOU CAN'T REALLY DRIVE ON IT WITH HEAVY VEHICLES.
AND THAT'S A CONCERN BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR VEHICLES ARE COMING AND GOING.
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SO THAT REALLY IS A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE IMPERVIOUS PAVEMENT BEING USED IN A PARKING LOT FOR THE SPACES, BUT NOT FOR WHERE THE TRAFFIC FLOWS OR IN A SMALLER SITE JUST BECAUSE CONSTANT TRAFFIC OR HEAVIER TRUCKS CAN REALLY DAMAGE IT DOESN'T HOLD UP TO IT.RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING ALL THAT BEHIND THE SCENES, BECAUSE WE WERE VERY HOPEFUL THAT WAS ALL GETTING DONE, BUT HADN'T REALLY HEARD ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS GIVE US A CALL.
NOW, YOU KNOW, LISA AND I SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CALL US.
SO MANY QUESTIONS. WHAT? OUT OF THE WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PERCENTAGES OF, LIKE, NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE DOING THESE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PLANS OR SPECIAL PROJECTS TYPE STUFF WITH LIKE, THE BONUSES AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND THEY'RE THEY'RE LEARNING THAT EITHER THEY, YOU KNOW, THEIR SITE PLAN FAILS OR THEY ADAPT.
SO I THINK THAT WE'LL BE SEEING THESE CHANGES COMING GOING FORWARD.
SO THERE'S THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LAG TIME.
IT TAKES IT CAN TAKE SOME TIME TO SEE A DIFFERENCE.
COOL. WE DO HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY OR A FAIR SUSTAINABILITY FAIR.
YOU ALL SHOULD IMPLEMENTATION OR HAVE A TABLE.
I HAVE A LITTLE EXPERIENCE WITH THOSE EVENTS.
SOME TABLING, JUST A FEW BREAKDOWNS.
IT'S OKAY. YEAH. SO I I SEE THAT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF A HARD STRUCTURE FOR WALLS AND A ROOF IS GOING TO NATURALLY INTERACT.
IT'S ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT IS INHERENTLY AND INEXTRICABLY, INEXTRICABLY LINKED TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND WILL HAVE AN IMPACT, FOR BETTER OR WORSE.
AND UTILIZING THAT INTERIM SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO TO RESTORE THE SERVICES THAT THE NATURAL ECOSYSTEM WAS PROVIDING IS CRITICAL SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE CITY IS SO RAPID AND IN SOME WAYS IT'S UNSTOPPABLE BECAUSE SO MANY, SO MANY LOTS ARE ALREADY PRIVATELY OWNED.
PEOPLE SEE THEM BEING DEVELOPED AND THEY GO TO THE CITY.
BUT THE CITY SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE OWNED THAT FOR DECADES.
WE CAN'T STOP THEM FROM BUILDING ON IT.
WE CAN ONLY MANAGE HOW IT'S BUILT AS WE CHANGE THE CODES GOING FORWARD.
SO THIS IS A POSITIVE STEP AND I HOPE TO SEE MORE OF IT.
BUT WE REALLY NEED TO RETHINK HOW WE THINK OF WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NATURAL SYSTEMS. WE NEED TO CONSIDER THAT PARKS CAN BE RETROFITTED WITH SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE HAVE OTHER PLACES WHERE I KNOW UP NORTH, THE POWER LINE UTILITIES ARE REPLANTING WITH NATIVE PLANTS TO HAVE CORRIDORS, GREEN CORRIDORS FOR WILDLIFE. OTHER PLACES HERE WE HAVE THE CANALS THAT COULD BE I'VE SAID, REIMAGINED, AND WE CAN WORK TOWARD KEEPING THEM CLEANER AND NOT THINKING OF THEM AS, YOU KNOW, DITCHES, BUT AS GREEN SPACE, WILDLIFE CORRIDOR. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WHEN WE'RE OUT BIKING, WE SEE THEM.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY, IS THAT WE KNOW HOMEOWNERS LIKE TREES AND THEY WILL PLANT THEM, AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE THE CAPACITY, THE TREE DOESN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO GROW.
IT'S GOING TO LIFT UP THE SIDEWALK NEARBY.
WE'VE SEEN THAT. I'VE SEEN WHERE THEY TRY TO MOVE THE SIDEWALK TO ACCOMMODATE THE TREE, BUT THEN THE SIDEWALK IS SLANTED EVENTUALLY AS THE TREE LIFTS ITSELF UP, AS IT GROWS AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DAMAGE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THEY PUT ALL THIS MONEY INTO IT, AND THE HOMEOWNER IS FRUSTRATED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DON'T WANT IT TOO CLOSE TO THEIR HOUSE, BUT THEY, YOU KNOW THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEN TRIMMING IT BECAUSE IT GETS TOO LARGE FOR THE SPACE.
AND IF WE HAD BETTER PLANNING UP FRONT OF WHAT TYPE OF TREE TO PLANT AND HOW TO SUPPORT IT IN THE DESIGN PHASE, IT WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THE HOMEOWNER AND FOR THE CITY.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY PUT SOME OF THAT IN TO NOT JUST INCENTIVES, BUT IN SOME CASES PRACTICES
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THAT ARE REQUIRED AND PRACTICES THAT ARE FORBIDDEN.YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO START DOING THAT BECAUSE I SEE THAT THEY'LL BE PLANTING THIS FAR FROM THE HOUSE, SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE THIS BIG, YOU KNOW, AND RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE.
I'M DEALING WITH THAT IN MY HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, MY HOUSE IS LIKE, RIGHT IN FRONT OF A WINDOW, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST NOT.
WHICH SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PLANTED THERE.
SOME OF THESE JUST WON'T COME OUT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
OFTEN I SEE THE FOUR TREES AND THE FOUR TREES ARE IN A STRAIGHT LINE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD, AND I'VE SEEN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TEN YEARS LATER WHEN THE FAMILIES WANT TO TAKE SOME DOWN BECAUSE THEY CAN'T USE THEIR YARD, BECAUSE THIS WALL OF TREES IS NOW BISECTING THEIR YARD.
YEAH. PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY FOR NATURAL ARRANGEMENT.
THEY BUY THIS LITTLE THING AND THEY PUT THEM TOO CLOSE TOGETHER.
AND, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS LATER, THEY NEED TO REMOVE HALF OF THEM, AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW OR AREN'T ABLE TO BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO BE IN THIS MUCH SPACE. BUT YEAH.
THANK YOU. I THINK THAT ADDRESSING THE FEAR THAT RESIDENTS HAVE FOR TREES AND AND THE UNDERSTANDING OF THEIR MAINTENANCE NEEDS IS A CONSTANT CHALLENGE IN EVERY CITY WITH RESIDENTS.
IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA THAT'S STORM PRONE, LIKE WE ARE.
I'M VERY EXCITED, IN CASE YOU ALL CAN'T TELL.
I LIKE THE IDEA OF EDUCATIONAL SIGNAGE, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT ON OUR AGENDA TONIGHT ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY FAIR THAT LOGAN MENTIONED, BUT I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANOTHER IDEA ADDED.
AND THAT IS YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE A MORE WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR HAVING A A SUSTAINABILITY SHOWCASE THAT WOULD TAKE ALL THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT THROUGH SIGNAGE WHERE PEOPLE, VISITORS TO HEAR KIND OF A WALKING TOUR IF, IF YOU WOULD POINTING OUT THE NATIVE PLANTS, POINTING OUT ALL THE SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, REALLY REQUESTING WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT BUDGET, REQUESTING A BUDGET FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND MAYBE PUT OUR MONEY INTO SIGNAGE AND PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND A VERY BIG IMPACT, AGAIN, LEANING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY AS WELL AS CITIZENS, BUT YEAH. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT COME UP AGAIN.
AND ANOTHER JUST A LITTLE IDEA ABOUT THE IMPERVIOUS AND PERVIOUS.
I WONDER IF WHERE THE CAR STATIONS CHARGING ARE.
JUST A LITTLE. JUST A LITTLE AREA WHERE A SIGN COULD GO AND SAY SOMETHING.
YEAH. THAT'S A THAT'S AN OLDER PARKING.
SO THAT WAS PAVED A LONG TIME AGO.
AND THE PAVING STANDARDS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE CHALLENGING TO RETROFIT IT IN THAT LOCATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S NOT MY THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER PLACE, BUT JUST SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT THAT'S NOT LISTED AT LED, BUT IT IS, IS THAT WE NEVER HAD ANY CAPS ON PARKING, SO MAYBE LIKE THAT THERE'S NO KMARTS ANYMORE LIKE THAT.
WALMART WAS ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE A 350 PARKING SPACES FOR THE SIZE OF ITS STORE.
SO THAT MEANS THE STAFF OF THE LAND AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH DEPARTMENT IS REALLY WELL TRAINED AND WELL ENGAGED AND REALLY WORKING FOR THE CITY BEHIND THE SCENES.
WE DON'T SEE OR HEAR, BUT IT NOW I KNOW THE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS YOU ALL ARE HAVING.
JUST KNOW THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
JUST ONE. ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING LOT SITUATION.
IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT FOR TREES ON THE PERIMETER OF THE PARKING LOT OR IN THE ISLANDS.
GOOD. I MEAN, ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT THIS PARKING LOT IS THE TREES.
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RIGHT. GREAT.LISA AND KIM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU. AND YOU KNOW, KIM AND I ARE OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE TOO PASSIONATE ABOUT THESE THINGS, BUT.
AND WE COULD BE HERE ALL NIGHT.
I'M WRITING YOUR NOTES, GOING, OH, YOU GET IT? YOU DEFINITELY GET WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
THREE GOALS. I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU ALL TO DO THAT.
BUT THANK YOU FOR INVITING US AND WE'LL COME BACK IN IF YOU NEED US.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
SO WE WILL JUMP INTO THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS.
SO THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.
WE HAD CHOSE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO OPEN UP KIND OF WHAT THEY SAW WHAT THEY LIKED THAT'S IN HERE OR ANY CHANGES THEY MAY THINK OF OR NOTES THAT THEY TOOK.
I WILL SAY WHILE SCROLLING THROUGH GOING THROUGH THIS, IT'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE THIS PAST YEAR OR HAVE DISCUSSED ARE IN HERE, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS COOL, LIKE THE POND PUTTING THE THE WETLAND TYPE STUFF AROUND THE AROUND THE EDGES OF THE POND.
SUSTAINABILITY FAIR ABOUT EDUCATION AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ALREADY IN HERE THAT WE'RE IMPLEMENTING.
I THINK, JESSICA. YEAH, THAT WAS FOR ME.
SO, YEAH, SO JUST THOSE LITTLE NOTES OF MINE.
AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH YOUR COMMENTS? I CAN, BUT I ACTUALLY ONLY PRINTED FOUR.
I, I PRINTED OUT MY FEEDBACK THAT I HAD SENT JESS.
SEND IT THROUGH EMAIL TODAY TO SEND OUT TO THE BOARD TOO.
BUT I WENT AHEAD AND PRINTED IT AND PRESENTING IT NOW.
OKAY. I PROBABLY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, BUT I CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS.
OKAY. HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO IT.
THIS IS. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER IT, BUT YEAH, I MEAN CAN OR CAN I TALK INTO THE.
YOU MIGHT BRING I DON'T KNOW, DO WE NEED TO HAVE OUR FINAL REVISIONS TODAY.
IS THAT THE GOAL OR DO YOU NEED TIME TO REVIEW OVER.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS MAYBE ASKING.
WELL, I HAD ONLY RECEIVED THE ACTION PLAN FROM CONNOLLY AND HIGGINS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD REVIEWED IT AND LOOKED OVER IT TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY OTHER ONES THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN.
OKAY, I DIDN'T SEND ANYTHING AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING THROUGH IT LIKE TODAY.
AND THEN WHEN WE'RE ENCOMPASS THE WHOLE THING, THEN WE CAN MAKE ALL THE CHANGES.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANYTHING THAT WAS ALREADY EXISTING THAT I WOULD STRIKE THROUGH.
INCLUDE ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY CRITERIA AND ALL MAJOR CITY PLANS AND GUIDELINES, CITY STRATEGIC PLAN, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, STORMWATER PLAN, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, ETC.. COLLABORATE WITH INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO IDENTIFY EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PROJECTS AND GRANT COST SAVINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
CREATE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE CITY.
THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION TO BE ADDED INTO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SECTION.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THAT BEFORE MOVING TO THE OTHERS? I HAD SIMILAR THOUGHTS ABOUT INCLUDING SUSTAINABILITY CRITERIA IN ALL THE DIFFERENT PLANS BECAUSE I WAS PULLING THEM.
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YOU KNOW, THESE DOCUMENTS AREN'T CONNECTED AND THEY'RE NOT BEING USED.SO I THINK YOUR IDEA IS REALLY GOOD TO TO COORDINATE.
AND SO MAKE THEM LESS CUMBERSOME, SO TO SPEAK, BY UNIFORM. YOU KNOW.
WHAT I DID, I JUST WROTE NOTES ON MY.
I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW YOU DID THIS.
SO I'VE GOT A BUNCH OF NOTES OF IDEAS AND GOOD AND BAD AND DO NOW AND TAKE OUT AND SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO.
HOW TO IF YOU JUST WANT TO RUN THROUGH YOUR NOTES OR THOUGHTS.
ONE THING I WANTED WAS TO GO BACK OUR NATURAL RESOURCES.
ONE THING WE HAD TALKED WHEN SUZANNE SHERMAN HAD COME WAS SHE WAS DEVELOPING A LIST OF ALL THE PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS, AND WE HAD TALKED ABOUT TAKING THAT LIST AND MAKING IT, RECOMMENDING TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THOSE PERMANENT GREENWAYS AND SET ASIDE SO NO, NO DEVELOPMENT COULD GO.
SO IN THE FIRST I HAD WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ABOUT THAT IN THIS SECTION AS WELL.
AND ALSO THERE'S THINGS LIKE EVEN IN THE FIRST GOAL TO PROTECT OUR ON PAGE SIX, TO PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES BY INCREASING THE USE OF RECLAIMED WATER.
WELL, WE DON'T USE RECLAIMED WATER.
THERE'S AN ISSUE HERE WHERE WE'RE NOT DOING THE RECLAIMED WATER, SO THINGS LIKE THAT.
I THINK WE EITHER NEED TO TAKE IT ON AS A PROJECT TO LOOK AT HAVING OUR CITY DO RECLAIMED WATER.
I CAN'T REMEMBER REALLY WHAT THE WHY WE'RE NOT DOING IT.
I MEAN, THAT WAS ALSO ON MY LIST FOR TO INCLUDE RECOMMENDATION FOR GOAL ONE IS COLLABORATE WITH THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES TO IDENTIFY EXISTING OPPORTUNITIES TO PROMOTE GREEN LANDSCAPING.
YES. I'M GOING TO HOP OVER AND JUST FOLLOW THAT THOUGHT TOO.
IF YOU LOOK UNDER GOAL TWO CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES, THE NUMBER.
SEE, THIS IS THE FIRST PLACE THAT THE PROGRAM FLORIDA FOREVER IS MENTIONED.
NOW, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY OF US TALK ABOUT THE FLORIDA FOREVER PROGRAM.
HAVE YOU TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE CONSERVATION AND ALL THAT? YES. IT'S IT'S WONDERFUL.
WELL, I MUST HAVE NOT BEEN LISTENING.
THAT WAS PART OF THE WITH THE STATE PARKS.
FLORIDA FOREVER WITH TRYING TO FIND LANDS TO DO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS IN THE CITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HIGHLIGHTED AND AND THAT WE UTILIZE THAT AND RECOMMENDED THEY NOT ONLY DO LAND, BUT IT COVERS PROTECTING WATER OUR WATER RESOURCES AS WELL.
SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT ARE HERE AND NOW AND BENEFICIAL.
SO I IN MY MIND, I SEE TAKING OUT A LOT OF SOME OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE HYDRATION STATIONS AND SOME OF THE EXAMPLES, MAYBE REMOVING SOME THINGS LIKE THAT AND PUTTING IN THESE BIGGER CONCEPTS.
I JUST CAUGHT ANOTHER THING HERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF LEAD BY EXAMPLE IS IDENTIFY AND INCENTIVIZE.
SO I'D LIKE THAT WE'RE DOING THAT IN THE PLAN.
I WOULD SAY ANOTHER AREA AGAIN OF BIG AREAS TO EXPAND ON ECOTOURISM.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE MOVING IN A LOT OF WAYS IN FLORIDA.
SO I THINK OUR PLAN NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE THAT MORE THAN JUST WITH ONE WORD HERE.
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LET'S SEE. AND I MENTIONED BUILDING E THROUGHOUT ALL THIS TOO.SO IT IT'S JUST A IT ALMOST TURNED INTO A BIGGER PROJECT THAN I THOUGHT, JUST TO QUICKLY. IT'S NOT A QUICK THING BECAUSE ONE THING LEADS TO ANOTHER, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE DOING IT.
AND ALSO IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS, IT SAYS THAT WE AGREED TO DO IT ANNUALLY.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT'S A BIG TASK EVERY YEAR.
SHOULD WE TAKE THAT THAT OUT FIRST? MAYBE. NO, NO, I THINK IT SHOULD.
I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ANNUALLY FOR SURE.
IF WE IF WE KEEP UP WITH IT YEAR TO YEAR, IT SHOULDN'T BE THIS DIFFICULT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT JUST YET, BUT SOMETHING.
WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY FOR MAKING CHANGES TO THIS DOCUMENT? YOU YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN PROBABLY VOTE THE CHANGES AND THEN WE'LL EDIT IT AND EDIT IT.
OKAY. DO YOU ALL HAVE THE STAFF? YOU MEAN TO DO THAT? WOULD WOULD WE BE THE ONES EDITING IT, OR WOULD YOU BE THE ONES WHO WOULD? YES, WE WOULD BE THE ONES DOING EDITING.
OKAY. SO I THINK THAT, I MEAN, IF I MAY SPEAK.
YEAH. SO THE ACTION PLAN AND I BELIEVE WHEN SUSAN SHERMAN CAME, THE GOAL, THE GOAL IS TO, IS TO HAVE THE PLAN WHERE IT LAID OUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO FOR THE YEAR.
LIKE IT INCLUDED THOSE STUFF THAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH PER YEAR.
THAT'S WHY IT'S RENEWED EVERY YEAR.
SO LIKE WE HAVE IN THIS PRESENTATION, IT SHOULD FALL IN YOUR ACTION PLAN.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT TREES OR YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT FLOODING, OR IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR ACTION PLAN THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SET AN AGENDA, GO BACK AND TRY TO ACCOMPLISH THESE ITEMS SO YOUR ACTION PLAN IS EFFECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, IT ALSO WILL HELP YOU TO CREATE YOUR BUDGET FOR THE YEAR.
SO YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO GO TO CONFERENCES.
YOU WANT TO DO WHATEVER YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR ACTION PLAN AND THEN YOU GO BUY IT.
SO ALL YOUR CORRECTION IS SEND IT TO JESSE AND WE CAN PUT IT TOGETHER AS ONE AND AGREED UPON IT.
AND THEN WE DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO DO IT EVERY YEAR, OR IF YOU WANT TO DO IT EVERY TWO YEARS, BUT YOUR GOAL IS TO HAVE THE YOUR INFORMATION IN THERE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH FOR A YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
AND THEN WE CAN SAY WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED HALF OR, YOU KNOW, ALL OF IT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU GUYS WANT TO ATTAIN FOR THE CITY OF FOR THE CITY.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE A LOT FOR ONE YEAR.
SO MAYBE IT'S LIKE EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF. WELL NO WE'RE NOT ON THAT.
YEAH THAT'S WHAT MY QUESTION WAS TOO.
USUALLY THESE ARE 3 TO 5 YEARS RIGHT.
THERE'S A LOT OF A LOT OF INFORMATION.
WELL I THINK YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL THIS IN A YEAR.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING, THAT THIS WOULD BE A THREE YEAR, 3 TO 5 YEAR PLAN.
I THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE WHAT WE WANT TO WORK ON.
THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS IN HERE.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LAUNDRY LIST, THOUGH.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF CONFUSED WITH LAST TIME.
I'M LIKE, IF THIS IS A THREE YEAR, I MEAN, IS IT DUE FOR RENEWAL OR REVISION THIS YEAR? NEXT YEAR? LIKE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY SORT OF ANNUAL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN TAKEN FROM FROM THIS, RIGHT.
SO IT WAS AT THE TIME IT WAS KIND OF ASPIRATIONAL.
JUST GET IT OUT THERE AND GET IT PASSED.
GET IT IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.
YEAH. I ALSO THINK IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVE SECTION, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE PROBABLY FROM THE CITY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO PRIORITIZE THOSE OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY ABLE TO WORK ON? WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO HELP THEM WITH? I REALLY LIKE JESSICA'S IDEAS.
IF WE PUT THOSE IN HERE AND PRIORITIZE THOSE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE WE CAN'T DO ALL OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY, YEAR ONE OR MAYBE EVEN YEAR 3 TO 5, WE DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S SO DAUNTING IS BECAUSE IT'S JUST A BIG LIST WITH NO TIME FRAMES ON IT.
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SO I TOOK IT AS KIND OF A MANUAL, IS WHAT I WAS THINKING AS AT THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE IT KIND OF LISTS OUT LIKE THE DIFFERENT THINGS YOU DO IN THE CITY.YEAH, IN THE CITY. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO RICHARD.
PREEXISTING RETENTION DETENTION.
RETENTION DETENTION PONDS, 1515, 10 TO 15FT.
PLANT BORDER TO FILTER POLLUTANTS LIKE WE DID THAT KIND OF WITH THE THUMB.
I THINK IT WAS CALLED THUMB. RIGHT? YEAH. BASIN 13.
FOR THAT. BUT, LIKE, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ALL OF THEM TYPE THING.
BUT LIKE, WE'RE INTO WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A LOT OF THESE DIFFERENT THINGS ALREADY.
I MEAN, PROBABLY NOT A I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A VENDING MACHINE WITH REUSABLE BOTTLES.
HOW MUCH IS A HYDRATION STATION? I THINK IT'S JUST THE WATER FOUNTAIN THAT HAS THAT BOTTLE AND MOST EVERYWHERE HAS IT.
WALMART HAS THEM. REALLY? GYMS HAVE THEM. YEAH.
WELL, HOW MUCH DOES THAT COST? OH, I DON'T KNOW. WELL, LET'S BUY ONE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING I WANT TO ADD IT TO.
YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT ONE LATELY? NO, I HAVEN'T BOUGHT ONE.
WELL. BUT I THINK THOSE ARE MORE COMMON TO MOST WATER FOUNTAINS HAVE THAT.
WELL, THAT, TO ME, SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING WE COULD DO.
AND THEN JUST TAKE IT OUT OF THE PLAN.
YEAH. AT THE THE GYMS OR THAT KIND OF STUFF, I THINK.
I THINK THE ROSA CENTER PROBABLY HAS, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE COMMUNITY CENTERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I THINK THE PALM BAY REGIONAL ONE HAS THE WATER ONE, BUT.
OH, IS THIS A WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE IN OUR OPERATIONS BUILDING TOO.
SO I THINK THEY'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE COMMON WITH FOLKS BRINGING THE WATER BOTTLES.
NOW, DO CITIZENS GET TO USE THE WATER? CAN THEY FILL BOTTLES AND TAKE IT AWAY? OH, I GUESS WHAT, BRING LIKE A BIG CONTAINER? YEAH, USUALLY IT'S JUST FOR, LIKE, WATER BOTTLES OR CUPS.
YES. THIS. OKAY, SO NOT TO SUPPLY THE ENTIRE CITY WITH CLEAN, FRESH WATER.
I DON'T THINK SO. WHILE YOU'RE THERE ON YOUR TRAVELS HOME.
WELL, I'M GOING TO PUT THAT UNDER THE BUDGET.
YEAH. SEE, IF WE WRITE THAT DOWN AND WE CAN.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU TWO HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT COST.
THAT WOULD BE OUR OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT.
WE CAN ASK FOR A QUOTE OR AN ESTIMATE.
WELL, CERTAINLY THEY SHOULD BE IN BUILDING TWO, SHOULDN'T THEY? THEY PROBABLY WILL BE. YEAH.
YEAH, THAT'D BE A NICE LITTLE SIGNAGE THING FROM THE.
YEAH. PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD OF 2025.
THERE YOU GO. DO Y'ALL WANT TO? I LIKE JESSICA'S EDITS.
I DO TOO. OH, THEY'RE RIGHT HERE.
IF Y'ALL WANT TO, WE CAN PUT THAT IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF TO MAKE IT EASIER WITH STAFF, IF ANY OF THE MAJOR CHANGES OR STRIKES OUT.
MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE A COPY AND THEN SEND IT TO THEM.
WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO PUT IT OUT ON A GOOGLE DOC? I MEAN, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE LIKE A LOT OF EDITING.
YEAH, I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE SUNSHINE.
OH WELL I DON'T CARE IF IT'S PUBLIC.
I DON'T CARE IF IT'S PUBLICLY AVAILABLE.
WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CORRESPOND ON A DOCUMENT PRIVATELY, EVEN IF ANYONE COULD GO AND LOOK AT IT.
BUT THE ONE HE'S EDITING ISN'T PUBLIC EITHER.
THE WHAT? THE ONE THAT ERIC'S GOING TO.
AND THEN WE WOULD GO BACK, WE'D MAKE THE CHANGES, WE'D BRING THEM UP TO YOU AT THE NEXT BOARD.
WE'D REVISIT IT, KEEP REVIEWING IT UNTIL WE'RE READY TO MAKE THE DOCUMENT OFFICIAL.
SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CORRESPOND BACK AND FORTH DURING THE EDITING PROCESS? WE'D HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
AND WE'LL JUST HANDLE THINGS ON OUR END.
I THOUGHT AS LONG AS WE DIDN'T COMMENT BACK, IT WASN'T A TWO WAY SO WE COULD PROVIDE.
WELL, HERE'S A WORD DOCUMENT WITH OUR COMMENTS AND PROVIDING IT THROUGH EMAIL, AND WE CAN JUST NOT RESPOND BACK TO THEIR COMMENTS AND THAT WE WOULD BE OKAY, BECAUSE IF THAT'S THE CASE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE PROBABLY FOUR MONTHS TO DO ONE SECTION.
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SO UNLESS YOU HAD A SPECIAL MEETING FOR THE RECORD, DENNIS BOND, CUSTOMER SERVICE MANAGER WITH PALM BAY WHAT SHE SAID IS CORRECT.YOU GUYS CAN RESPOND BACK AND FORTH TO JESSE.
YOU JUST CAN'T RESPOND TO EACH OTHER.
SHE CAN COMMUNICATE WITH JESSE, AND THEN JESSE CAN SEND OUT UPDATES TO THE BOARD IN ITS ENTIRETY.
AND THEN THAT WOULD MEET THE SUNSHINE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO DO SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
SO UNTIL THIS BECOMES AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO YOU ARE ALLOWED TO WORK ONE ON ONE.
LIKE MISS ZIEGLER AND MISS LAVELLE CAN'T TALK OFF TO THE SIDE ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT.
IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN NOW JUST HAVE PEOPLE GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE, ONE PERSON AT A TIME AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY WANT TO STRIKE OR ADD TO WHAT'S ON THE PAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US OR NOT.
WE COULD DO THAT JESSICA'S SHEET THAT Y'ALL DON'T LIKE? I THINK OR OR EVEN FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN TO STRIKE FROM THE PLAN.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO STRIKE FROM THE PLAN, WE CAN JUST DO THAT NOW.
I THOUGHT THEY WERE GREAT SO FAR.
THE YOU KNOW, I GUESS I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW THE FEASIBILITY OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD EVEN BE A PRIORITY FOR US TO BE WORRIED ABOUT? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE PALM BAY AREA.
ANYWAY, I THINK THAT WOULD, IN MY MIND WHEN I WAS SUGGESTING THAT IT WAS FOR PLACES THAT ARE VERY HARD TO REACH THAT HAVE THESE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU SEE THOSE PORTA POTTIES OUT THERE AND IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE SOMETHING PERMANENT.
BUT THIS I DON'T THINK THE CITY MANAGES THOSE SO WE CAN STRIKE THAT.
OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH THIS SHEET.
WE'RE GOING. SO YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO ADD IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION WE'LL ADD AS WE GO ALONG YOU MEAN.
OKAY. SO WE'RE ON THE FIRST PAGE SIX.
SO JUST QUICKLY I LIKE NUMBER TWO.
IF WE WANTED TO ADD THERE THE IDEA OF THE GREENWAY EASEMENTS, THE PERMANENT PERMANENT CONSERVATION.
WHAT IS THE TERM PERMANENT CONSERVATION EASEMENT? DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT THERE.
THAT ONE THAT'S ALREADY PRETTY MUCH IN HERE.
THE FOREVER FOREVER FLORIDA OKAY SECTION THAT'S ALREADY.
OKAY. BUT FOR WE WOULD ADD IN FOR FOR JESSICA'S COMMENTS OR GOAL RIGHT HERE.
SO THE NUMBER THREE I THINK TO MANAGE WE'RE NOT GOING TO MANAGE ANYTHING I WOULD SAY PULL THAT.
NO. WHERE ARE YOU? I'M WAY OVER HERE TO MANAGE.
OH, YEAH. TO MANAGE AND PROTECT GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES.
RECHARGE BY MANAGING AND PROTECTING GROUNDWATER AND TAKE THEM BOTH OUT.
I MEAN, THE OVERALL I'M THINKING I LIKE THE GOALS.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO PROTECT THE GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER BODIES.
YEAH. IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH STRIKING THE VENDING MACHINES? YES. YES.
IS THAT HYDRATION STATIONS? NO. OH, THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
IT WOULD BE. GOAL ONE, SECTION TWO C GOAL ONE, SECTION TWO C GOAL ONE.
OKAY. JUST SEEING YOU'RE FOLLOWING IT BETTER THAN ME.
OKAY. I KNOW WE'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE RIGHT NOW.
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OKAY. YOU TAKE THAT OUT.DID YOU SAY GOING BACK AGAIN ON THAT SAME PAGE UNDER CITY GOVERNMENT OBJECTIVES? NUMBER A TO INSTALL WATERLESS COMPOSTING TOILETS.
SO I GUESS IT BREAKS DOWN TO LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES.
SO WE HAVE THE CITY GOVERNMENT, LOCAL BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE THE HYDRATION STATIONS ARE ON BOTH OF THOSE.
DID WE WANT TO LEAVE HYDRATION STATION IN OR OUT? YEAH, I GUESS I WAS THINKING I WAS LIKE, WHY IS IT THERE TWICE? BUT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
SO WE'LL HAVE TWO OTHERS IN THERE.
ENCOURAGE USE OF LOW FLOW SHOWER HEADS.
I MEAN THE COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES ARE GOING TO BE MORE OF EDUCATIONAL.
SO I SOMETHING, I THINK. I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY FINE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ENCOURAGED USE OF LOW FLOW SHOWER HEADS AND AUTOMATED SINKS AND TOILETS.
I MEAN, IN A HOME ASPECT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE AUTOMATED SINKS AND TOILETS.
I THINK IT'S MORE LIKE A RESTAURANT AND TAKE THAT OUT.
YOU KNOW, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT DOES THAT DURING WATER MONTH.
DOES WHAT? LOW, LOW FLOW SHOWER HEADS.
ARE YOU. IS THAT OKAY? THE AUTOMATED TOILETS FOR.
BECAUSE I THINK COMMUNITY WOULD BE MORE LIKE AT HOME.
IT'S LIKE SHOWER HEADS AND SUCH.
I THINK COMMUNITY IN THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY SPACES MORE THAN IN PRIVATE HOMES.
YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE SHOWER HEADS ARE THERE.
UNLESS THAT'S, LIKE, FOR THE BEACH.
NO. WELL, I MEANT ON THE THE HANDS FREE.
OH, BUT, YEAH, TAKING OUT THE I THINK THAT WOULD BE FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES.
YEAH. IF WE HAD A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, THAT IF WE WERE DOING A PLACE WHAT YOU CAN DO AT HOME, WHAT YOU CAN DO TO CONTRIBUTE TO A GREENER AND, YOU KNOW, CLEANER, GREENER.
SO SHOULD WE STRIKE A OR CHANGE THE, THE WORDING.
I WOULD YEAH I WOULD RECOMMEND JUST CHANGE THE WORDING.
WHAT WOULD YOU WHAT DO YOU THINK WE CHANGE IT TO LIKE EDUCATE THE USE OF LOW FLOW SHOWERHEADS AND AUTOMATED SINKS AND TOILETS OR EDUCATE ABOUT SOMETHING AND THEN LIKE MORE GENERALIZED OF HOUSEHOLD.
I MEAN, THAT IS A VERY SPECIFIC OBJECTIVE REALLY SEE COVERS THAT, RIGHT? IF YOU INCREASE THE AWARENESS BECAUSE THIS IS JUST WATER CONSUMPTION, THAT'S WHAT IS PUBLIC INFORMATION, RIGHT.
OR EDUCATION. YEAH. SO I WOULD PROBABLY LUMP IT IN WITH JUST GENERAL WATER CONSUMPTION.
LIKE WHAT ARE SOME PUBLIC OUTREACH.
SO OKAY, SO CAMPAIGNS THAT YOU CAN DO TO HAVE WATER CONSERVATION.
RIGHT. SO SEE KIND OF ENCOMPASSES THE A RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY. SO WE JUST STRIKE A.
YEAH OKAY. NOW AT THE TOP THE GOAL ONE.
SHOULD WE JUST PUT TO PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES PERIOD.
JUST TO LET THE GOAL BE TO PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND THEN TAKE THESE ITEMS THAT ARE SO SPECIFIC AND INCORPORATE THEM DOWN AND EXPAND.
YEAH. DON'T LIMIT OURSELVES BY AT THE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER, WILDLIFE CORRIDORS, REDUCED WATER CONSUMPTION.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THE OBJECTIVES ARE.
BECAUSE THEN TO TO EXPAND, PROTECT AND RESTORE PUBLICLY OWNED NATURAL LAND LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND TO INCENTIVIZE THE PROTECTION OF NATURAL AREAS ON PRIVATE LANDS TO MANAGE TO PROTECT GROUNDWATER AND SURFACE WATER.
SO I THINK THEY KIND OF EACH GOAL IS SPECIFIC TO LIKE THAT TASK.
SO LIKE I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STILL HAVE THE WILDLIFE CORRIDORS.
IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC SMART GOAL AND YOU CAN ACHIEVE IT.
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OKAY. IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID SO FAR? YES. I WANTED TO ADD ON THE SAME PAGE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THE IDEA IS TO PROTECT OUR NATURAL RESOURCES AND WE BREAK IT OUT BY CITY GOVERNMENT.AND LOCAL BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY.
I'D LIKE TO PUT IN HERE SOMETHING ABOUT HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND CONDO ASSOCIATIONS.
BUILDING INTO THEIR CONDO DOCS, ESPECIALLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT TO USE SOME OF THESE. TO MAYBE ADD THAT UNDER COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES, MAYBE THAT'S UNDER COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES.
HOW TO CAPTURE STORMWATER AND NATIVE PLANTS AND RAIN GARDENS.
BUT TO SPECIFICALLY MENTION THESE THINGS A WAY OF DOING IT IS TO PUT IT IN CONDOMINIUM DOCUMENTS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING WITH IT RIGHT NOW WITH MY HOA.
YEAH. SO IT'S KIND OF THE DEVELOPERS WOULD COME UP WITH THOSE, THOSE DOCUMENTS, THE ORIGINAL ONES IN A WAY IT WOULD TIE IN WITH THE LAND AND GROWTH DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE BUILDING THAT TYPE OF THING INTO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.
I'M JUST SAYING TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER AND START GETTING IT IN THE CULTURE OF I MEAN, IF THIS IF WE WANT TO CHANGE MAYBE INTO EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS ON HOW TO CAPTURE STORMWATER AND NATIVE PLANT RAIN GARDENS.
I MEAN, WE COULD PUT EDUCATE HOMEOWNERS AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS ON I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THE CAPTURE STORMWATER, NATIVE PLANT, RAIN GARDENS, BUT WE COULD TURN THAT ONE INTO MORE SPECIFIC TO WELL, THERE IS MENTIONED ON PAGE EIGHT FOR THE RAIN WATER HOA.
SO I THINK WHAT WAS MENTIONED JUST NOW IS ALREADY COVERED.
WHERE IS THE HOA MENTIONED? JESSICA. PAGE EIGHT.
DO YOU SEE IT? WHAT IS THAT? OH, I MISSED IT. A AND THEN B PARTNER.
OH, AND THEN THE NATIVE PLANTS.
OKAY. YEAH. BUT NO, I, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
SUSAN, I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY I GO FOR THAT.
I RECOMMEND ADDING ADDING THAT ALSO WITH GOAL TO FORMULATE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION POLICY CONSIDERATIONS FOR GUIDELINES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING LAWS. YES, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT BECAUSE THESE WERE VERY I MEAN, VERY ATTAINABLE OBJECTIVES.
BUT I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE LIKE LASTING CHANGE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
BUT FOR LIKE THOSE GOALS, THE IDEA WOULD BE TO THEN HAVE MEETINGS WITH LISA AND KIM, RIGHT, TO KIND OF EXPAND OUT, I WOULD THINK, OR NORMALLY THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD DO WITH THIS IS TAKE YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN, GET YOUR YEAR, AND THEN YOU WILL GO PROBABLY EVEN FURTHER INTO THIS.
SO WE'LL EXPAND OUT I WOULD THINK.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THING, RIGHT? DIFFERENT WORDS. YEAH.
RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL.
AND YOU MAY HAVE THIS OBJECTIVE, BUT THEN WHEN WE GET TO OUR ANNUAL PLAN, WE'LL SAY, WELL, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THAT OBJECTIVE? WHO'S ASSIGNED TO THIS? RIGHT. RIGHT. THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETAIL IT OUT MORE.
OKAY. UNTIL LIKE A DIFFERENT PLAN, WE'LL HAVE A BUNCH OF PLANS.
WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.
OKAY. YEP. AND THEN SO WE'LL LEAVE.
SO D DO YOU THINK WE LEAVE IT.
OR IS THAT ALREADY KIND OF ENCOMPASSED IN THAT OTHER ONE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND HOAS AND ALL THAT.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF REPEATING ITSELF.
DON'T STRIKE IT BEFORE WE KNOW IT'S THOROUGHLY WORDED MAY COME BACK.
ANY. DID YOU HAVE ANY STRIKES OR CHANGES? ARE WE HERE? OH! GOAL TWO. THAT'S WHERE THAT LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
I LOVE THAT, DON'T YOU LOVE THAT?
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OKAY. PLACE MAINTENANCE.HEAVY TURF GRASS WITH NATIVE PLANTS BY MEDIAN STRIPS.
HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? IS THAT JUST AS THINGS ARE UPDATED TO NOT DO LIKE TURF AND TO DO NATIVE PLANTS ON THE SO IT SAID REPLACE MAINTENANCE HEAVY TURF GRASS WITH NATIVE PLANTS ON MEDIAN STRIPS.
SO I MEAN, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE TO JUST GO THROUGH AND TEAR UP ALL THE GRASS AND PLANT.
IN MOST ENGINEERING DESIGN PLANS IN THE CITY, WATER DRAINS AWAY FROM OUR MEDIANS.
SO REALLY WOULDN'T AFFECT TOO MUCH CHANGE.
SO I MEAN, BUT LIKE GOING IN AND TAKING.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE IT WOULDN'T AFFECT LIKE IT WOULD BE EASY TO DO.
WATER DOESN'T DRAIN TO THE MEDIANS.
YEAH. THEY DRAIN. IT DRAINS AWAY.
BUT THE NATIVE. HE'S SAYING HE'S SAYING EVERYTHING WOULD DIE.
PROBABLY. I UNDERSTAND THE CITY DOESN'T MAINTAIN THESE BECAUSE IT'S TOO HAZARDOUS IN ONE SENSE AND TOO EXPENSIVE IN ANOTHER. IT'S EASIER TO HIRE PROFESSIONALS TO DO IT.
AND AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT FOR NEWLY DEVELOPMENTS NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THEY CAN INCORPORATE THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FEATURES OF STORMWATER CAPTURE WITH UNDERGROUND CISTERNS.
BUT FOR EXISTING PROBABLY NOT SO MUCH.
WELL, IF IT'S IN THE LID, THEN I MEAN, THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
SO BUT WHAT I'M WONDERING IS DOES THE LID HAVE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES OF THINGS LIKE THIS AS WELL? LIKE I DON'T, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WOULD MERGE TOGETHER.
I'M NOT SURE. THAT'S ANOTHER THING ON OUR AGENDA.
I MEAN, I'D ASK LISA AND KIM WITH THEIR IMPLEMENTATION INITIATIVES ARE.
SHE DID SHE DID SAY THAT WE COULD GIVE HER THREE, 3 OR 4 QUESTIONS THAT SHE COULD PROVIDE YOU GUYS AN ANSWER FOR FOR THE NEXT TIME SO WE CAN WRITE THAT DOWN AND ASK HER. YEAH.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'D LOVE TO SUPPORT ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING, SO.
I'D LIKE TO LOOK A MINUTE AT I DON'T HAVE ANY STRIKEOUTS ON THIS.
I HAVE THIS SECTION AS BEING RAH RAH RAH RAH RAH, GO! ARE WE OKAY? YEAH. I WANTED TO EXPAND THOUGH, AND TALK TO ERIC A MINUTE.
NUMBER D IS EDUCATE CITY EMPLOYEES ON THE CARE OF NATIVE PLANTS.
ERIC, YOU REMEMBER THAT LID, THE MRC LID CONFERENCE? THEY CAME OUT WITH A MAINTENANCE MANUAL.
AND THE WHOLE IDEA OF TRAINING CITY STAFF.
ONCE YOU PUT IN NATIVE PLANTS, ONCE YOU USE PLANTS IN SWALES, YOU DON'T MOW.
IT'S A DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE TRAINING FOR EMPLOYEES.
IS THERE A WAY THAT YOU COULD LOOK AT NUMBER D AND PHRASE IT? IT'S JUST NOT THE CARE OF NATIVE PLANTS THAT CITY EMPLOYEES ARE HAVING TO LEARN.
ITS ITS CARE BECOMES MAINTENANCE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TO MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW.
CAN YOU SAY IT BETTER THAN THIS? THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY WE HAVE DEREK HERE IS TO EDUCATE CITY STAFF AND EVERYTHING FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, ON THOSE THINGS.
SO HE'S BETTER AT WORDING THOSE THAN I AM.
SO IT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS WHICH IS GREAT.
COULD YOU EXPANDED? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR MORE TO ADD A FEW WORDS, JUST NOT NATIVE PLANTS, BUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF RETHINKING AND RETRAINING STAFF TO MAINTAIN A GREEN.
SO YOU'D BASICALLY YOU COULD GO AS SPECIFIC AS YOU WANT WITH REDOING THIS ONE.
YOU COULD. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO SINCE IT'S ALREADY IN PROGRESS? YEAH. LET'S TAKE A LITTLE CREDIT FOR IT AND SAY SUPPORT, SUPPORT, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE CITY IN THEIR
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ONGOING TRANSITION FOR MAINTENANCE.OH. HERE COMES, HERE IT COMES.
YES, I WOULD START OFF THAT WAY.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HIS JOB ACTUALLY IS.
DID YOU JOT THAT DOWN? OH MY GOSH. YOU GUYS MUST BE USING THE COMPUTER BECAUSE MY PENCIL DOESN'T GO THAT FAST.
THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU DENNIS AND DEREK.
AND THEN ARE WE STRIKING A THE MEDIANS, I THINK SO.
TURF MAKES ME THINK OF FOOTBALL, AND THEN WE'LL TRY TO.
I DON'T WANT TO DEFINITELY GO PAST EIGHT.
AND MINDFUL OF EVERYONE'S TIME.
AND OUR STAFFERS LOCAL BUSINESS OBJECTIVES EXPLORE POTENTIAL AREAS FOR ECOTOURISM.
IDENTIFY LOCATIONS THAT WOULD GENERATE REVENUE.
YES, YES, LET'S I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A DOLLAR DRAW THE FRONT GATE.
I AGAIN, I THINK WITH BUILDING E WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WITH THE EDUCATIONAL SIGNS AND THINGS.
SO WE ARE ALREADY ENGAGED IN ECOTOURISM.
SO WE ALSO HAVE THE JOHN LAWTON RECREATION AREA AND PLACES IN THE SOUTH THAT THE CYPRESS PLACES THAT BORDER THE COUNTY LINE, THE BREVARD COUNTY LINE, THAT PALM BAY EXTENDS QUITE FAR SOUTH.
MOST CITIZENS, I THINK, DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THOSE PLACES.
DO YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING LIKE CONTINUE TO COME ON, GUYS, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT THIS.
YEAH. LIKE THROUGH BUILDING E TURKEY CREEK, WHAT REBECCA MENTIONED AS SO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE POTENTIAL AREAS FOR ECOTOURISM.
CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT CURRENT ECOTOURISM SITES ARE SUCH AS.
IS THAT TOO MUCH? I DON'T KNOW. WELL, THEN, THE INTENTION IS WE'LL HAVE A DOCUMENT TO SUSAN.
OKAY. YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO PROCESS.
YEAH I WANT TO JUST CHANGE ONE WORD BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH YOUR SUGGESTION.
I DON'T LIKE EXPLORE LET'S SAY EXPAND OR CONTRIBUTE TO ECOTOURISM.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY JUSTINE, ON THIS ONE.
OKAY. COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES ACKNOWLEDGE FLORIDA-FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING BY HOMEOWNERS THROUGH AWARDS FOR SUCH THINGS AS BIGGEST PERCENT OF NATIVE PLANT AREA, GREATEST NUMBER OF TREES PER DWELLING CAPTURE OF STORMWATER.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR US TO FIND OUT AND DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF ANY OF THAT IS KEPT IN RECORDS.
NO, I THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE NOT QUITE A SMART GOAL.
YEAH. MAYBE YOU YOU JUST REWORD IT THAT YOU OFFER INCENTIVES OR RECOGNITION.
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HOW ABOUT I GUESS A CITY? HOW ABOUT DEVELOP, CONTINUE TO DEVELOP COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS? THAT FOCUS ON AWARDS OR FOCUS ON LIKE ENCOURAGE? YES. ENCOURAGE FLORIDA-FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING? YES, EXACTLY.EXACTLY. AND THAT COULD JUST BE HANDLED THROUGH THE CITY OBJECTIVES.
SO THEY CAN ENCOURAGE ENCOURAGE FLORIDA-FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING SUCH AS THE NATIVE PLANT AREA TREES ETC.
AND THEN JUST REMOVE AWARDS AND ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND THAT COULD BE PUT OH I SEE.
THESE ARE ALL JUST PUBLIC OUTREACH, RIGHT.
REPLACE TURF GRASS UNDER CANOPY.
YEAH. SO THAT'S JUST A PUBLIC OUTREACH.
EDUCATE AND INCENTIVIZE HOMEOWNERS TO CAPTURE STORMWATER AND NATIVE PLANT RAIN GARDENS.
FOR EXAMPLE, PARTNERING WITH LOCAL NONPROFITS.
REDUCE STORMWATER BILLS IF HOMEOWNERS HOA.
WHICH ONE? REDUCE THE STORMWATER BILLS.
FOR OR IF HOMEOWNERS OR HOA COMMUNITIES MEET CITY ESTABLISHED CRITERIA AND CAPTURING STORMWATER.
I MEAN, THAT'S AN INCENTIVE FOR HOA TO PUT THAT IN THE DOCS.
DIS NOT DISCOUNT BUT CREDITS CREDIT.
YEAH. SO I MEAN THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
DISCOURAGE USE OF FERTILIZERS ON CITRUS OUTREACH.
IDENTIFY AND CONVERT A PUBLIC PARK SUITABLE TO REMOVE LIKE FISH OR ANIMAL WASTE.
I WOULD JUST REMOVE IT, BUT BY USING ORGANIC SOURCES BECAUSE IT ALREADY SAYS ORGANIC SOURCES.
SO STRIKE LIKE FISH OR ANIMAL WASTE WATER SOURCES.
INSTALL SIGNAGE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION AWARENESS.
EDUCATE. NOW YOU KNOW THAT'S MANDATORY.
SO LET'S LET'S CHANGE THE WORDING ON SOME OF THAT.
WELL WE STILL I MEAN THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON I MEAN PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO SWITCH OVER MAYBE MANDATORY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO RIP OUT ALL THE SEPTIC TANKS. SO IT'S STILL LIKE WORKING OVER I WAS THINKING IN TERMS OF SAYING, RECOGNIZING WITH THESE WE NOW HAVE MANDATORY AS OF SUCH AND SUCH, WE HAVE MANDATORY SEPTIC TO SEWER AND WATER CONNECTIONS.
YOU KNOW, WORK WITH RESIDENTS TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES.
AND I MEAN, WOULD THERE BE INCENTIVES? I MEAN, I GUESS THE THE GRANTS AND THAT.
YEAH, I MAINLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE ON MANDATORY NOW.
DON'T QUITE LIKE THAT. BUT YOU DON'T YOU DON'T LIKE WE'RE ON MANDATORY.
SO IF WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE, I MEAN, IT IS MANDATORY BY CITY COUNCIL.
SO DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT NUMBER F? ANYONE. DO YOU WANT TO TAKE OUT NUMBER F SINCE IT'S ON PROPER CARE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM? I MEAN THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE SEPTIC.
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WELL, AND SEWER SYSTEM, SO THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE THERE FOR NOW.YEAH. I MEAN, THIS IS FOR FOR WASTE, RIGHT.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND PROBABLY PUTTING THAT DOWN IN YOUR COMMUNITY.
AND WE ALSO HAD A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HERE WHO SAID THAT HE CALLED A SEPTIC COMPANY TO CLEAN HIS THING AND HE SAID, NO, NO, THE PERSON HE SPOKE TO SAID, WELL, NOBODY EVER CALLS US TO CLEAN HIM.
THEY ONLY CALL US WHEN THEY'RE EXPLODING.
REDUCE. SO DO WE LEAVE THAT OR IF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED? WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO MENTION THE GROWTH AND LAND DEVELOPMENT.
DID SHE HAVE IT ON HERS? THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING. DID YOU HAVE THAT ON YOUR SHEET? HIGH LEVEL? YES.
AND THAT'S ONE THAT YOU COULD TRACK TOWARDS.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE AND MAY BE THERE, WE COULD HELP WITH PUBLIC OUTREACH OR TRACKING.
SO WE WOULD STILL PROPOSE THAT YOU KEEP IT IN THERE.
SO KEEP A AND THEN WITH YOURS ADDED IN THERE.
REDUCE MOWING AND FILTER POLLUTANTS.
REPLACE TURF. MAN, Y'ALL REALLY WANTED TO REPLACE TURF GRASS THIS YEAR.
21. REPLACE TURF GRASS AROUND RETENTION PONDS.
PEOPLE PUT A LOT OF FERTILIZERS ON IT TO KEEP IT GREEN.
A LOT OF WASTE OF WATER RETENTION PONDS, NATIVE PLANT BORDERS COMMUNITY OBJECTIVES.
CONVERT FROM SEPTIC FROM SEPTIC TANK TO CITY SEWER WERE AVAILABLE.
YOU DON'T PUT MANDATORY IN THERE.
I'M JUST KIDDING. I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S THAT'S LIKE A NO BRAINER THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
WELL YEAH, YEAH, BUT IT'S STILL CONVERTING SEPTIC TANKS.
I MEAN, PEOPLE CAN DO IT FASTER THAN WHAT? THE MANDATORY.
IT'S NOT LIKE IN TWO YEARS IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT.
I MEAN, MY UNDERSTANDING. ANYWAYS BE AWARE OF HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS THAT SHOULD NOT BE FLUSHED.
HOW ABOUT STOP THE USE OF FERTILIZERS? I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE EDUCATIONAL, LIKE EDUCATION WISE.
FERTILIZERS ARE OFTEN USED TO ESTABLISH A PLANT, AND THEN THEY SHOULD BE.
PLANTS ARE USUALLY WEANED OFF OF THEM IF IT'S DONE RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A TASK FOR US ALL.
THEY WE HIRE A LANDSCAPING, I MEAN A LAWN CARE AND I KNOW THERE ARE IS ROUNDUP IN THE THEY SPRAY RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
SO CAN WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT HELPING BOARDS OR INTERVENING OR EDUCATING LAND SCAPE COMPANIES? YEAH. I THINK THIS IS A BIG EDUCATIONAL THING.
AND THEN THE BABY BIRDS FED THE GRUBS.
SO DO YOU WANT TO TURN THAT INTO.
I WANT I WANT SOMETHING IN THERE TO REFLECT THE FACT THAT HERBICIDES AND PESTICIDES ON SOMEBODY'S LAWN ARE FAR WORSE THAN SOME DEAD SPOTS IN YOUR GRASS.
OKAY, CAN WE START OUT JUST WITH THAT STATEMENT? IT IS A A HERBICIDES AND PESTICIDES ARE WIDELY USED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR.
WELL, IT SHOULD BE LIKE EDUCATE.
EDUCATE CITIZENS AS WELL AS LANDSCAPE COMPANIES.
LIKE, LIKE A SNAKE IS A TERRIBLE THING.
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SO THAT EDUCATIONAL POLICY AROUND NATIVES, NOT JUST AROUND HERBICIDES AND PESTICIDES, IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE A GENERATIONAL PROCESS.I HAVE TO TELL YOU, HOW WOULD YOU PUT THAT IN ONE SENTENCE OR BULLET POINT THAT WOULD CONTINUE EDUCATIONAL PRACTICES ON FERTILIZERS AND HERBICIDES? AND WHAT ELSE DID YOU SAY, REBECCA? PESTICIDES. PESTICIDES.
DOES THAT SAY IT'S STRONG ENOUGH? WE COULD PUT IN PARENTHESES.
WHEN YOU KILL THE WORMS, WHEN YOU KILL THE BUGS, YOU KILL THE BABIES.
I, I NOTICED THAT IN OUR FLOOD PLAIN MANAGEMENT STUFF, THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME OF THIS SO THE STORMWATER.
UTILITY CREDIT FOR DETENTION SYSTEMS AND EXTENDED DETENTION SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S WONDERFUL.
DID WE CAPTURE EVERYTHING ON HERE? YEAH. WELL, WE'RE. SO YOU.
HAVE YOU GOT THE EMAIL ON THAT ONE FOR JESSICA'S LIST? YES. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD THOSE.
AND THEN I WAS JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH HERE.
JUST MAKE SURE BECAUSE I THINK YOU GOT THE TYPING OF THE LIKE THE AMENDMENT AMENDED STATEMENTS WHAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE LIKE THE AMENDED ONES WITH THE WORDSMITHING.
OKAY. AND THEN SO DID YOU ALL GET THE ONES WE WERE STRIKING, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO RUN THROUGH THEM? YES, SIR. WE GOT THEM. OKAY, COOL.
COOL. ALL RIGHT, SO WE GOT THAT.
SO I WANT TO SAY NEXT MEETING WE'RE GOING TO DO BUDGET REVIEW.
SO GOING THROUGH THAT, I THINK AS LONG AS THIS TOOK THAT PROBABLY WILL TAKE SOME TIME AS WELL.
IS THE CUTOFF AUGUST? NO. WHAT WAS MY NOTES? SO JANUARY WILL BE BUDGET REVIEW WISH LIST.
SO BRING ANY IDEAS YOU HAVE THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT OR PUT INTO A BUDGET FOR NEXT MEETING.
SO I THINK IS THAT FINE WITH EVERYONE TO SKIP JANUARY FOR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND DO FEBRUARY FOR BUILT ENVIRONMENT? I CONCUR.
BY THE WAY, I THINK, I, I HOPE IT WASN'T TOO HARD ON THE STAFF.
SO WE'LL POWER THROUGH THE LAST FEW THINGS SO WE DON'T KEEP THEM.
OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I READ THAT.
AND I DIDN'T GET I THOUGHT LISA FRAZIER WAS GOING TO SPEAK ON THAT.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
OKAY. SO THAT WAS SO MISS FRAZIER DID THE LID AND THE FLOODPLAIN GOING THROUGH.
SO ANY OTHER BUSINESS, UPCOMING MEETINGS, EVENTS OF INTEREST.
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FAST ROUND ROBIN.THE ONE DID EVERYONE GET THAT NOTE ABOUT THE FROM VINNIE? YES. OKAY.
SO EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD WITH THAT? I THINK THEY ARE.
WHAT IS THAT CALLED? THAT'S THE COUNTY.
THIS IS THE BREVARD MUNICIPAL MUNICIPAL SUSTAINABILITY CONFERENCE, NUMBER TWO.
LOGAN, I'M WONDERING IF YOU ARE NOT ON THE LIST? NO, CERTAINLY JESSICA IS NOT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR NEW BOARD THAT THIS GROUP, ANY TORONTO'S GROUP, HAS OUR CURRENT.
AND SO THE TWO OF Y'ALL WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO.
I THINK THAT'S WHY Y'ALL ARE ON THE LIST, TOO, BECAUSE WE JUST COMMUNICATED WITH THEM.
BECAUSE VINNY ASKED ABOUT THE CITY EMPLOYEES.
WE DO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ON THAT.
HE'LL COME UP AND GET ON TO US AGAIN.
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I KNOW Y'ALL SPLIT.WE DID TWO LAST TWO BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I THINK DENNIS MIGHT COME UP AND SPEAK ON IT.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF IF WE CAN'T ALL GO.
JUST US. RIGHT? I THINK WHAT THEY DID LAST TIME WAS SEND OUT SOME NOTICE, DENNIS, THAT TWO PEOPLE WOULD BE GOING FROM HERE.
I'M OUT OF IT. MAYBE IT'S A MOOT POINT.
YEAH. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO GO? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WENT LAST TIME, BUT I CAN TELL YOU, LIKE IF YOU GO TO A CONFERENCE AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THREE OF YOU GO, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T CONGREGATE TOGETHER AND DISCUSS BUSINESS, THAT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT IN THESE CHAMBERS.
YOU JUST CAN'T COMMENT ON STUFF THAT'S COMING UP ON THE AGENDA.
BUT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE CONFERENCE AND LEARN STUFF SO YOU CAN SEND TWO.
YOU CAN SEND CONSENT TO BE OKAY? IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU.
TO 2 P.M.. HE HAS THE AGENDA HERE.
AND REBECCA, YOU'RE ONE OF THE SENIOR MEMBERS HERE? NOT BY AGE.
SO WOULD YOU TWO WANT TO GO AS WELL? SEND ME THE INFORMATION. I DIDN'T CATCH THE DATES FOR WHAT IT'S ABOUT, BUT I'LL LOOK AT IT.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE INVITE CONFERENCE.
OH, OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO.
WE'LL HAVE TO SHARE IT THROUGH. SEND IT.
YEAH. DID YOU ALL GET THAT EMAIL AS WELL ABOUT THAT FROM VINNIE? I SENT IT TO HER.
AS LONG AS IF WE CAN EASILY HAVE THREE, THAT WOULD BE.
YOU REALLY LEARN A LOT BECAUSE HE GOES THROUGH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES IN BREVARD COUNTY.
SO WHO SHOWS UP ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE FRONT LINE OF CITIZEN? I THINK AS LONG AS THE SCHEDULE WORKS, ANYONE CAN GO UNLESS THEY HAVE A LIMIT FOR THE FOR THIS.
NOT YET. I DON'T THINK THEY DO.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT THE BREVARD ZOO AND.
I GOTTA I JUST HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO MY EMAILS ON THAT SIDE.
WOW. AND WE'RE DOING THE TALLAMY TALK THERE THIS YEAR, BOTH WEDNESDAY AND SATURDAY.
SO JUST SHARING THAT WITH ANYONE.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY WORK WITH THEM AND WORK AND CREATE A RECYCLING AREA, ALLOWING PEOPLE TO PUT IN THEIR CAMPAIGN SIGNS, THE CORRUGATED PLASTICS, THE METAL STAKES. THERE WAS A THERE WAS A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT WITH THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT MARCY IS, IS WANTING TO DO MORE WITH THE CITY NOW.
WE HAD MARCH 29TH, APRIL 26TH AND MAY 3RD OPEN.
THOSE ARE AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
WHAT WERE THOSE AGAIN? IT WAS MARCH 29TH, APRIL 26TH AND MAY 3RD.
WELL, I, I STILL WANT TO TALK TO MY FELLOW PEOPLE HERE ABOUT ALTERNATE IDEAS TO THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR JUST BECAUSE I'M FEELING PRESSURE.
THE LONGER WE YOU, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN GREAT TO CHECK OUT THE DATES AND THINGS, BUT THE REAL ASK IS GOING TO BE ON US IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS FAIR.
WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THE PHONE.
WE HAVE BEEN TOTALLY SPOILED FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN AT OUR DISPOSAL, AND I JUST WANT TO I LIKE MY IDEA OF HAVING A SHOWCASE.
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MOMENT, BUT NOT WHERE CITIZENS COME.I WANT TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE LONG LASTING.
THE SIGNAGE IS SOMETHING THAT WILL STAY LONGER THAN A DAY, AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN SHOWCASE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT'S NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC? YOU DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE CITIZENS COME? OH, I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING THAT, BUT I DIDN'T MEAN THAT.
I NEVER SAY THAT, BUT OH, I MEAN, YES, I'M.
I MEANT WHAT I MEANT TO CONVEY IS TO ME HAVING A TIME FOR CITIZENS TO COME.
THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER FAIRS AND EVENTS AROUND THESE DATES WITH EARTH DAY, EARTH DAY, AND TURKEY CREEK DAY AND ALL OF IT, IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT.
PLUS THE COST, YOU KNOW? WE'RE NOT FORMALLY IN THE BUDGET YET, AND THIS THING IS A PROJECTED COST OF $10,000.
WE DO HAVE SOME KIND OF BUDGET FOR THE FAIR.
YES, BUT IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET.
WELL, THE ONLY THING IN THE BUDGET WOULD BE THAT THEY SQUEEZE IT IN FOR US SO WE COULD DO THE FAIR.
OKAY. SO SPEAKING OF THE BUDGET, DO I WAS CONFUSED.
DID WHO'S CALLING WHO AND THE VENDORS.
AND WHAT DO I NEED TO DO BECAUSE I HAVEN'T PARTICIPATED BEFORE.
THE THOUGHT WAS, LET ME LOOK AT THOSE OLD NOTES.
BECAUSE I FORGET THE RUNNING COMPANY AGAIN.
BECAUSE WHEN? WHEN YOU NEED TO HAVE THE BUDGET AMOUNTS TO THEM.
SO HAS IT ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED? THE SCHEDULE THAT WAS KIND OF DISCUSSED LAST TIME FROM STAFF WAS THAT JANUARY IS LIKE A SUBMITTING TIME.
JANUARY, FEBRUARY JUNE IS THE CUTOFF.
AUGUST IS KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET TYPE DEAL FOR THE FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
ALL RIGHT. SO IN BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A REVISED BUDGET.
YEAH. SO JANUARY WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH.
WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET. WE'VE NEVER DONE ONE OKAY.
SO WE'LL MAKE THAT'S WHY IT'S ANYTHING FOR NEXT MEETING.
THIS IS THE BUDGET THAT JESS HAD SENT OUT.
SO THE BUDGET THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER NOW BECAUSE NORMALLY OUR BUDGET YEAR STARTS LIKE, AROUND, YOU KNOW, MARCH AND APPROVE SEPTEMBER FOR OCTOBER.
SO BECAUSE WE'RE YOU GUYS, WE'RE LATE IN SUBMITTING ONE.
SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE FARE, HOW MUCH MONEY YOU WANT? REMEMBER SUSAN HAD SAID SHE WOULD GO TO COUNCIL.
AND THEN GOING FORWARD WE'LL HAVE OUR OWN BUDGET.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO GET IT DONE NOW.
BECAUSE IF THE FARE IS GOING TO BE ANY ONE OF THESE DATES, YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR BUDGET READY.
SO WE CAN ACTUALLY GO TO COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEETING IS LIKE WHAT, EVERY THURSDAY.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT TIME.
AND THESE DATES THAT YOU GAVE US ARE DATES THAT THE FRED POP-UP PARK IS AVAILABLE OR WHAT WERE THE DATES? I MEAN, I HAVE THE DATES, BUT WHAT ARE WHAT DOES THE DATE MEAN FOR AVAILABILITY OF WHAT? IT'S RAINING RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE. IS IT MORE THAN FRED POPPY PARK, THOUGH? IS IT? OH, YEAH. YEAH.
FRED. POPPY. OPEN? YEAH. COMPLETELY OPEN AS OF RIGHT NOW.
BUT YOU JUST PICK AND THAT WILL CHANGE.
OKAY? YEAH. WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, APRIL 26TH, THAT'S THE ONLY ONE IN APRIL THAT'S AVAILABLE AS A WHOLE.
26 WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT GAVE US.
SO MARCH 29TH, APRIL 26TH, AND THEN MAY 3RD.
YES. I JUST WANT TO SAY ANOTHER IDEA.
LOGAN, I'M GOING TO DIRECT THIS AT YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THIS? NOT A STATIONARY SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, BUT A RUNNING EVENT WHERE PEOPLE WOULD RUN TO VARIOUS POINTS OF RAIN GARDENS.
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AND IT COULD BE RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY, RIGHT HERE ON THIS CAMPUS OR CLOSE TO IT OR OR BRING BACK THE NUMBER.SO MANY TREES OR SITES OR, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT.
I THINK THE DOING THE RUNNING IS TO GET LIKE A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE.
WELL, I'M SAYING DO IT, DO THAT PART OF IT.
I GET I GET WHAT I'M SAYING THOUGH COULD IMPACT MAKING A LIGHTER BUDGET.
SO JANUARY NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.
THE WISH LIST BUDGET FOR LIKE THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
FISCAL AND THEN ALSO FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR IS WHAT WE'LL DISCUSS.
SO THEN, SO THEN FOR THE FAIR ITEMS. I KNOW THAT JESS HAD SENT OUT CONTACT VENDORS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT VENDORS TO CONTACT.
I KNOW KIND OF STAFF SENT LIKE A TEMPLATE LAST TIME, KIND OF IF YOU'RE GOING TO SEND.
OKAY. SO THESE ARE CALLED VENDORS THAT COME OUT TO SET UP A TABLE.
NOT LIKE WHAT THE I WAS ASSUMING SINCE THE BUDGET WAS ATTACHED AND SAYING CONTACT THE VENDORS.
WE NEEDED UPDATES ON THE BOUNCE HOUSE, THE ICE AND WHATEVER ELSE WAS ON THAT LIST.
I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING ASKED AT THAT POINT.
YEAH, I THINK THE MONEY WISE WOULD BE OH, FOR LIKE PRICING.
RIGHT. BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET AN UPDATED BUDGET TO THEM.
RIGHT. SO SOMEONE NEEDS TO CALL WHOEVER THE VENDORS WERE AND IF WHOEVER CALLED, I'M HAPPY TO HELP.
IF ANYBODY NEEDS HELP CALLING ANY PAST VENDORS, I'M HAPPY TO HELP.
I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT VENDORS TO CALL.
OKAY. WOULD THAT BE WITH LIKE GETTING PRICING LIKE BOUNCE HOUSE AND ALL THAT? WE KIND OF WE HAVE WHAT IT COSTS LAST YEAR, RIGHT.
SO WE CAN KIND OF BUILD THE BUDGET OFF OF THAT.
AND THEN MAYBE AFTERWARDS IT'S JUST LIKE, WE KNOW WHAT WE WILL ASK FOR BUDGET, LIKE ASK THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT WILL COST FOR THOSE, AND IF WE CAN GET BETTER PRICING OR THAT KIND OF STUFF AND SAVE MONEY, THEN YEAH, I THINK IT WAS FOR LAST YEAR.
IS THAT RIGHT? BECAUSE LAST YEAR WE WERE TOLD WE SHOULD NOT BE NEGOTIATING PRICES WITH VENDORS.
THAT'S A CITY EMPLOYEE TYPE JOB THAT THAT WE CAN'T DO THAT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO IS BECAUSE WOULD THAT BE CONTRACTING FOR THE CITY THEN? YEAH. IF WE DID, THAT IS LIKE GETTING A COMMITMENT.
SO LIKE FOR THE BOUNCE HOUSES OR KONA, THAT KIND OF THING.
OKAY. LET US LET US REACH OUT TO THE PREVIOUS TEAM THAT WAS HERE AND SEE HOW THEY WOULD BE TAKING THE INFORMATION AND CONTINUE TO. OKAY.
HOW THE PRICING. SO LIKE FOR THE BUDGET, DON'T PUSH IT TOO HARD.
JUST DO THE BASICS OF WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE FAIR.
YEAH. SO WE CAN ADD THE OTHER STUFF TO IT JUST TO KIND OF GET IT OUT BECAUSE LIKE FOR YOUR FOR THE FEAR IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE LIKE YOUR THEME AND THEN ALL THE VENDORS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WHAT, WHAT IS THE WHOLE EVENT IS GOING TO BE ABOUT.
THE THEME IS THIS THESE VENDORS ARE GOING TO BE HERE.
YEAH. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE IT PUT OUT FOR THEM.
SURE. THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE FAIR.
WELL, I THINK THEY NEED A CHECK.
I DO, I MEAN, USUALLY OH, NO, NO, NOT THAT NOT THE MONEY VENDING BUT THE NONPROFITS.
OH, BECAUSE WE HAD A LIST LAST YEAR OF THE NONPROFITS THAT WE INVITED TO THE TABLE.
CHECK. OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN IF Y'ALL I MEAN DIVIDED BY WHAT IS IT, FIVE? IF Y'ALL JUST, LIKE, WANTED TO DIVIDE BY FIVE AND THEN WE CAN IN THAT WAY, IT'S JUST PRE-DECIDED WHO WE GIVE CALLS TO TYPE THING.
AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START CALLING THEM.
SO THEN WE CAN TELL COUNCIL, HEY, WE HAVE COMMITMENTS FROM XYZ.
WE HAVE SO MANY PUT OUT ASK PUT OUT FOR THEM TO COME TO THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR AND THEN WE'LL NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE KIND OF THE VENDING OF WHAT WE'RE THINKING FOR LIKE ACTIVITIES FOR BUDGET AND ALL THAT.
SO THEN WE CAN KIND OF GET A HEAD START.
OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE? YEAH. REALLY QUICK.
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BECAUSE I DID REACH OUT TO MISTER TORONTO ABOUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS COMPLETELY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FREE OF CHARGE.
YOU JUST HAVE TO LET HIM KNOW.
IF YOU WANT TO DO THE ALL DAY AGENDA OR JUST CERTAIN PARTS OF IT, YOU JUST HAVE TO LET HIM KNOW.
SO. AND LAST YEAR TO THE SUSTAINABLE.
THE FORMAL SUSTAINABILITY BOARDS.
HE SENT A QUESTIONNAIRE TO KIND OF SHARE THEIR AND TO HELP.
SO I ANTICIPATE THE SAME COMING.
WE MIGHT NEED TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA.
OKAY. OR ASSIGN SOMEBODY ON YOUR STAFF TO BE AWARE THAT THAT MIGHT INVOLVE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.
I'LL BE GLAD TO HELP ON IT THOUGH.
WHAT WHAT DATE WOULD WORK BEST FOR YOU ALL SO WE CAN GET THAT NAILED DOWN? MARCH 29TH.
I'M USUALLY ARE USUALLY LIKE EARTH DAY EVENTS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF LEANING THAT WAY TOO.
THAT WAY WE HAVE MORE TIME AND WE WE HAVE TRIED TO GET IT A LITTLE BIT AWAY FROM EARTH DAY.
WE KNOW IT'S MORE EARTH DAY VIBES, BUT AND WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT DOING IT OPPOSITE TIME OF THE YEAR WHERE IT'S LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ENVIRONMENT AT THE FRONT AND THEN HAVE AN EVENT IN THE AT THE TOWARDS THE END WITH IT.
SO YEAH, I'M FINE WITH MAY 3RD.
ANYONE ELSE? I NEED TO CHECK SOME STUFF.
SORRY. AND THEN WHILE THEY'RE CHECKING, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FROM STAFF? YEAH, MY THIRD YEAR.
AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU ALL? ANY. SO ONLY MR. LOUIS HAS MAY 3RD.
I KNOW BOTH OF US ARE FINE FOR MAY 3RD.
OKAY. SO IS THAT GOOD WITH YOU? I HAVE TO CHANGE SOME THINGS, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE IT GOOD.
OKAY, GOOD. SO IT LOOKS LIKE UNANIMOUS FOR MAY 3RD.
WHAT TIME DID WE HAVE? YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO SET THAT RIGHT NOW.
YEAH. I THINK IT'LL PROBABLY BE IN THE MORNING.
OKAY. SO LOGAN, WERE YOU GOING TO CALL RUNNING ZONE AND SEE IF THEY'RE GOOD? MAY 3RD? OR WAS THAT WITH RUNNING ZONE? WERE YOU ABLE TO CHECK WITH THEM OR ON, LIKE, IF THEY WERE AVAILABLE MAY 3RD.
SO RIGHT NOW I GOT TO GET WITH NICOLINA.
AND SHE'S THE ONE WHO GAVE US THE FIVE K.
OKAY, COOL. SO WE'LL ASK FOR MAY 3RD THEN.
YEAH. OKAY. SO TEN AND THEN MAY 3RD.
OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ON OUR LIST OUR FUTURE AGENDA LIST THAT THE COMPLETED LIST OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION.
HAS THAT BEEN COMPLETED YET, SUZANNE? SHERMAN MENTIONED THAT THAT THAT WAS IN PROCESS, THAT THEY WERE SOMEBODY WAS COMING UP WITH A LIST OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS IN REGARD TO WHAT.
I JUST REMEMBER HER SAYING THAT THEY WERE IN PROCESS OF LISTING, MAKING A LIST.
AND THEY WERE I THINK SUSAN'S REFERRING TO EXPLORING UNDEVELOPED CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT COULD BE PERMANENTLY CONSERVED THAT WERE NOT NECESSARILY PARKS AS SUCH RIGHT NOW FOR CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT. I UNDERSTAND.
ABSOLUTELY. SO IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.
YEAH. SO IT'S BEING LOOKED INTO.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT IN THE FOREFRONT.
AND BECAUSE I KNOW IT TAKES TIME.
THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.
OKAY. ARE YOU ONE OF THE PEOPLE WORKING ON THAT? YES, I'M LOOKING INTO IT MYSELF.
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OH. LET ME BE BRIEF.WE NEED TO REACH INTO THE COMMUNITY, INTO THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE REPRESENTED HERE ON THIS BOARD.
HOW MANY OPENINGS DO WE HAVE? TWO. SO I'M GOING TO PRESUME ONE IS ONE IS PROBABLY AT LARGE AND PROBABLY ONE IS APPOINTED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER.
DENNIS, DO YOU HAVE A SOLUTION? NO, NO, YOU'RE YOU'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
AND WE CAN GET WITH THE CITY CLERK, AND WE CAN GET WITH CHRISTINA BORN.
YES. WHAT I WANTED TO BRING UP IS WHEN YOU CHOSE THE DATE THAT SHOULD REALLY BE IN THE FORM OF A MOTION WITH A SECOND, AND THEN A VOTE FROM THE BOARD INSTEAD OF JUST THE EVEN IF IT'S CASUAL, EVEN IF IT'S TENTATIVE.
YES. BECAUSE THAT'S THE DATE YOU'RE CHOOSING AS A BOARD THAT YOU'RE ALL AGREEING ON.
BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, IT SHOULD BE THAT WAY.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, LIKE, WE CAN SCHEDULE THE PARK FOR THAT DAY AND HAVE THE EVENT WE CAN DO THAT.
THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE TENTATIVE WOULD BE IF THE RUN THE RUN RUN WOULD HAPPEN.
NO PROBLEM. DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR MAY 3RD FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY FAIR.
ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR A SECOND.
IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE WILL NOW PROCEED TO VOTE.
I VOTE AYE. SO THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
MAY 3RD. MAY 3RD WILL BE THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY FAIR.
BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE MEETING THOUGH I KNOW WE'RE STILL OPEN.
ARE THE ARE THE TWO OPENINGS FOR THE BOARD LISTED AS OPEN ON THE WEBSITE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE GET CONFUSED ABOUT IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE POINT THEM TO THE WEBSITE TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATION AND THERE ARE NO OPENINGS STATED, THEY I CAN CHECK.
THANK YOU. SO THE BOARD APPOINTED WILL NEVER BE LISTED, BUT THE GENERAL ONES WILL BE LISTED.
THEY SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
RIGHT. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK.
YEAH. AND THEN I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
SO IF YOU KNOW PEOPLE JUST SEND THEM TO FILL OUT THE APPLICATIONS BECAUSE IT'LL GO QUICKER.
OH OKAY. AND YEAH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LINK UNDER THE WEBSITE THAT THEY CAN GET THE APPLICATION FOR.
AND I THINK ALSO IF YOU KNOW THE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT IS THAT SEATS OPEN, THEY MAKE THE APPOINTMENT.
THAT KIND OF THING. SO EITHER OF THOSE ROUTES, I THINK COULD DO MORE.
ANY FINAL? NO. ALL RIGHT, AS ALWAYS.
THANK YOU. STAFF. SORRY TO KEEP YOU TO 809 PALM BAY TIME.
WE'LL MAKE IT UP TO YOU. YEAH.
REALLY? WE COULD NOT DO IT WITHOUT THEM.
ALL RIGHT, WELL HAPPY HOLIDAYS.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS, MERRY CHRISTMAS.
AND THEN IF NO OTHER BUSINESS, WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED.
SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.