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WE ARE THE FINALE SHOW CHOIR FROM BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
THESE ARE MY STUDENTS FROM BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
I'M THE CHORUS TEACHER, AND WE ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE AND DO SOME CHRISTMAS SONGS FOR YOU.
WE WILL START WITH VENI, VENI, EMMANUEL, WHICH IS O COME, O COME, EMMANUEL.
O COME, O COME, EMMANUEL, AND RANSOM CAPTIVE ISRAEL THAT MOURNS IN LONELY EXILE HERE UNTIL THE SON OF GOD APPEAR.
REJOICE, REJOICE, EMMANUEL SHALL COME TO THEE, O ISRAEL. O COME, THOU DAYSPRING, COME AND CHEER OUR SPIRITS BY THINE ADVENT.
HERE DISPERSE THE GLOOMY CLOUDS OF NIGHT.
AND DEATH'S DARK SHADOWS PUT TO FLIGHT.
REJOICE, REJOICE, EMMANUEL SHALL COME TO THEE, O ISRAEL.
MANY, MANY OF YOU HAVE COME TO WOMBS OF ISRAEL.
CELIO. PRIVADOS DE FILIO. CONTINENTAL DE EMMANUEL. MARSH'S GOD BROUGHT ISRAEL GOD'S EXALTED M O R U L NOT SHATTERED BRONZE.
NOW. ALL I AM DREAMING OF A WHITE CHRISTMAS.
JUST LIKE THE ONES I USED TO KNOW.
I'M DREAMING OF A WHITE CHRISTMAS.
WITH EVERY CHRISTMAS CARD I WRITE.
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BRIGHT. AND MAY ALL YOUR CHRISTMASES BE WHITE.WITHOUT YOU I'LL BE SO BLUE JUST THINKING ABOUT YOU. DECORATIONS OF RED ON A GREEN CHRISTMAS TREE WON'T BE THE SAME, DEAR, IF YOU'RE NOT HERE WITH ME. WHEN THOSE BLUE SNOWFLAKES START FALLING.
THAT'S WHEN THOSE BLUE MEMORIES START CALLING.
YOU'LL BE DOING ALL RIGHT WITH YOUR CHRISTMAS OF WHITE.
BUT I'LL HAVE A BLUE, BLUE, BLUE, BLUE CHRISTMAS.
YOU'LL BE DOING ALL RIGHT WITH YOUR CHRISTMAS OF WHITE.
BUT I'LL HAVE A BLUE, BLUE, BLUE, BLUE CHRISTMAS.
BUT I'LL HAVE HAVE A BLUE, BLUE BLUE BLUE CHRISTMAS.
I LOVE THE WINTER WEATHER SO THE TWO OF US CAN GET TOGETHER.
THERE'S NOTHING SWEETER, FINER WHEN IT'S NICE AND COLD.
I CAN HOLD MY BABY CLOSER TO ME.
AND COLLECT THE KISSES AT HOME TOO.
CAUSE I GOT MY LOVE TO KEEP ME WARM.
WILL THE TWO OF US CAN GET TOGETHER? THERE'S NOTHING SWEETER, FINER.
I CAN HOLD MY BABY CLOSER TO ME.
AND COLLECT THE KISSES THAT ARE DUE FOR ME.
CAUSE I GOT MY LOVE TO KEEP ME WARM.
FROM CHRISTMAS TILL NEW YEAR'S DAY.
SO THE TWO OF US CAN GET TOGETHER.
THERE'S NOTHING SWEETER, FINER.
I CAN HOLD MY BABY CLOSER TO ME.
AND COLLECT THE KISSES THAT ARE TO ME.
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CAUSE I GOT MY LOVE TO KEEP ME WARM.CAUSE I GOT MY LOVE TO KEEP ME WARM.
CAUSE I GOT MY LOVE TO KEEP ME WARM.
O HOLY NIGHT, THE STARS ARE BRIGHTLY SHINING.
IT IS THE NIGHT OF OUR DEAR SAVIOR'S BIRTH.
LONG LAY THE WORLD IN SIN AND ERROR PINING.
TILL HE APPEARED AND THE SOUL FELT ITS WORTH.
FOR YONDER BREAKS A NEW AND GLORIOUS MORN.
FALL ON YOUR KNEES, O HEAR THE ANGEL VOICES O NIGHT DIVINE O NIGHT WHEN CHRIST WAS BORN.
THERE WERE NEVER SUCH DEVOTED SISTERS.
I'M HERE TO KEEP MY EYE ON HER.
CARING, SHARING EVERY LITTLE THING THAT WE ARE WEARING.
WHEN A CERTAIN GENTLEMAN ARRIVED FROM ROME.
SHE WORE THE DRESS AND I'D STAY HOME.
ALL KINDS OF WEATHER WE STICK TOGETHER.
BUT IN TIGHT PLACES WE THINK, AND WE ACT AS ONE.
THOSE WHO'VE SEEN US KNOW THAT NOT A THING CAN COME BETWEEN US.
MANY MEN HAVE TRIED TO SPLIT US UP, BUT NO ONE CAN.
LORD, HELP THE MISTER WHO COMES BETWEEN ME AND MY SISTER.
AND LORD, HELP THE SISTER WHO COMES BETWEEN ME AND MY MAN.
WE STICK TOGETHER THE SAME IN THE RAIN OR SUN.
TWO DIFFERENT FACES, BUT IN TIGHT PLACES, WE THINK AND WE ACT AS ONE.
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HA! THOSE WHO'VE SEEN US KNOW THAT NOT A THING CAN COME BETWEEN US.MANY MEN HAVE TRIED TO SPLIT US UP, BUT NO ONE CAN.
LORD, HELP THE MISTER WHO COMES BETWEEN ME AND MY SISTER.
AND LORD, HELP THE SISTER WHO COMES BETWEEN ME AND MY MAN.
SISTER, DON'T COME BETWEEN ME AND MY MAN.
AIR HOMIE FROM TENDERSTEM HAVE SPRUNG UP.
BRIGHT AMID THE COLD OF WINTER.
AS WAS FORETOLD IN THE ROLES I HAVE IN MIND WITH MARY.
WE BEHOLD IN THE VIRGIN MOTHER KIND TO SHOW GOD'S LOVE ARIGHT.
WHEN HUSBAND WAS THE NIGHT HOME.
I WANT A HIPPOPOTAMUS FOR CHRISTMAS.
DON'T WANT THE DOG? NO. DINKY TINKER TOY.
I WANT A HIPPOPOTAMUS TO PLAY WITH AND ENJOY.
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I WANT A HIPPOPOTAMUS FOR CHRISTMAS.I DON'T THINK SANTA CLAUS WILL MIND YOU.
HE WON'T HAVE TO USE A DIRTY CHIMNEY FLUE.
JUST BRING HIM THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR.
I CAN SEE ME NOW ON CHRISTMAS MORNING.
OH WHAT JOY, WHAT SURPRISE WHEN I OPEN UP MY EYES AND SEE A HIPPO HERO STANDING THERE.
I WANT A HIPPOPOTAMUS FOR CHRISTMAS.
NO CROCODILES OR RHINOCEROSES.
I ONLY LIKE HIPPOPOTAMUSES AND HIPPOPOTAMUSES LIKE ME TOO.
MOM SAYS A HIPPO WOULD EAT ME UP.
BUT THEN TEACHER SAYS THE HIPPO IS A VEGETARIAN.
THERE'S LOTS OF ROOM FOR HIM IN OUR TWO CAR GARAGE.
I FEED HIM THERE AND WASH HIM THERE AND GIVE HIM HIS MASSAGE.
I CAN SEE ME NOW ON CHRISTMAS MORNING.
OH, WHAT JOY, WHAT SURPRISE? WHEN I OPEN UP MY EYES AND SEE A HIPPO HERO STANDING THERE.
I WANT A HIPPOPOTAMUS FOR CHRISTMAS.
NO CROCODILES OR RHINOCEROSES.
AND HIPPOPOTAMUSES LIKE ME TOO.
NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES DO I SEE.
NOTHING BUT BLUEBIRDS ALL DAY LONG.
NEVER SAW THE SUN SHINING SO BRIGHT.
NEVER SAW THINGS GOING SO RIGHT.
NOTICING THE DAYS HURRYING BY.
NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES FROM NOW ON.
NEVER SAW THE SUN SHINING SO BRIGHT.
NEVER SAW THINGS GOING SO RIGHT.
NOTICING THE DAYS STIRRING BY WHEN YOU'RE IN LOVE.
NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES FROM NOW ON.
NOTHING BUT BLUE SKIES FROM NOW ON.
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LOVE.NOEL NOEL NOEL NOEL, NOEL, NOEL.
SING SING SING SING SING SING SING SING SING SING SING.
SING WE ALL NOEL SING, SING, SING, SING NOEL NOEL NOEL NOEL NOEL NOEL NOEL.
NOEL. THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SONG OF THE EVENING.
AS WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
WE WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
GOOD TIDINGS TO YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE.
GOOD TIDINGS FOR CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
OH, BRING US SOME FIGGY PUDDING.
OH, BRING US SOME FIGGY PUDDING.
OH, BRING US SOME FIGGY PUDDING.
WE WON'T GO UNTIL WE GET SOME.
WE WON'T GO UNTIL WE GET SOME.
WE WON'T GO UNTIL WE GET SOME.
GOOD TIDINGS TO YOU WHEREVER YOU ARE.
OH, HEY, GIVE IT UP FOR BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL.
YEAH, LET'S. LET'S GET TOGETHER.
HOW YOU WANT TO PUT US? YOU GOT, YOU GOT.
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RIGHT HERE. HOLD THAT THOUGHT.OKAY. ARE YOU READY? READY? OKAY. ONE.
TWO. THREE. ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. YOU ALL DID GREAT.
HOW YOU DOING? I'LL SEE YOU NEXT YEAR.
OH MY GOODNESS. I'M DOING SO GOOD.
HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU? I LOVE.
THEY CAME FOR THE PRISONERS WITH US.
HI. HOW ARE YOU DOING? HOW ARE YOU? OH MY GOSH.
YOU TWO HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS.
AND THE ROCKET SAYS THAT AFTER.
THAT. SOUNDS LIKE I CAN HANG UP ON HER, BUT THAT SOUNDS.
NELSON. NO CORNER RIGHT THERE.
DID YOU SEE HIM TALKING? OH, YEAH. NO, IT'S.
IT'S A GUY FROM CAREER SOURCE.
BUT THEY ARE. THEY FAVOR ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE IN GAME. COPY THAT.
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2024.
[CALL TO ORDER:]
THAT'S 33 TO ORDER.THE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY PASTOR TIM RITCHIE OF EAST WIND PENTECOSTAL CHURCH, AND OUR PLEDGE OF
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ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY FIRST SERGEANT JOHNSON.GIVE HONOR TO MAYOR MEDINA MEDINA AND TO THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND DEDICATION TO OUR GREAT CITY.
AMEN. AND WE JUST PRAY THAT THE LORD WILL BE WITH YOU AND IN ALL OF YOUR DECISIONS.
PROVERBS CHAPTER THREE AND VERSE NUMBER FIVE, IT SAYS, TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL THY HEART, AND LEAN NOT TO THINE OWN UNDERSTANDING. IN ALL THY WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, AND HE SHALL DIRECT THY PATHS.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
WE KNOW, LORD, THAT WE NEED YOUR DIRECTION.
WE NEED YOUR HELP IN OUR DECISIONS.
LET THE POWER OF YOUR PRESENCE BE FELT IN THIS PLACE.
WE CALL UPON YOUR NAME, MIGHTY GOD, FOR YOU ARE THE GREAT AND THE MIGHTY.
WE PRAY, OH GOD, THAT YOU WOULD JUST MOVE IN OUR CITY.
I PRAY ESPECIALLY FOR THIS COUNCIL.
YOU'LL GIVE THEM WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE.
HELP THEM TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES AND THE RIGHT DECISIONS.
I PRAY, OH LORD, FOR PEACE IN OUR STREETS AND PROTECTION FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIREFIGHTERS, AND FOR ALL OF THOSE FIRST RESPONDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.
I PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE WISDOM TO ALL THE CITY OFFICIALS.
GOD, WE NEED YOU IN OUR MIDST, AND WE'RE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THESE ENDING DAYS.
AND LET EVERYBODY SAY IN JESUS NAME, JESUS, JESUS.
RIGHT ON THE MIC, SIR. YES, SIR.
GOOD EVENING. WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT AFTER ME THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. FIRST SERGEANT WHO? HAD TO TAKE ADVANTAGE.
IT'S NOT ALWAYS WE WE GET A FIRST SERGEANT IN OUR MIDST IN THAT DRESS.
AND WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL.
PRESENT. THANK YOU, MADAM DEPUTY MAYOR.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
ANNOUNCEMENTS, PLEASE.THREE VACANCIES ON THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD REPRESENTS THE AT LARGE STUDENT MEMBER POSITIONS.
BANKING INDUSTRY. RESIDENTIAL HOME BUILDING.
ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN HOMEBUILDING OR FOR PROFIT PROVIDER POSITIONS.
THREE ONE VACANCY ON THE DISASTER RELIEF COMMITTEE EXECUTIVE BOARD.
ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY.
FLORIDA. FLORIDA.ORG OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9523414.
CITY MANAGER, MR. MORGAN. WE'RE ON AGENDA REVISIONS.
[AGENDA REVISIONS:]
YES, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING SO MANY AGENDA REVISIONS, BUT I HOPE THIS IS MY FIRST GO ROUND.
AND SO I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING SO MANY.
THE FIRST ITEM IS A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
IT'S THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY'S CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT, ALSO KNOWN AS CAPER, FOR OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, CBG PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324.
IT HAS BEEN ADDED AS ITEM TWO UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THIS WAS PROPERLY ADVERTISED FOR TONIGHT.
AND SO THAT WILL BE ITEM TWO UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THERE WAS AN AGENDA REVISION ON ITEM 13 TO GET A CORRECTED DOLLAR AMOUNT.
HOWEVER, THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT IS ACTUALLY THE CORRECT AMOUNT.
HAVING BEEN BOUNCED A COUPLE TIMES.
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AND THEN THE LAST AGENDA REVISIONS WAS A DISCUSSION TO CONSIDER THE DISSOLVING OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH WAS ADDED AS ITEM NINE UNDER NEW BUSINESS AS REQUESTED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA REVISION, SIR.
SO COUNCIL, I'VE GOT A NOTE HERE, AND I THINK I'M NOT SURE IF WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ON THIS ONE, BUT THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO, OR AS YOU WERE NUMBER ONE ON THE NEW BUSINESS, HAS ASKED, THAT WE MOVE THEM UP IN THE AGENDA.
IS THERE AN APPETITE FROM COUNCIL TO DO THAT? MAYOR? YES, SIR.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS ONE AND THREE UP ON THE AGENDA ONE AND THREE FOR NEW BUSINESS.
AND DO YOU WANT TO DO IT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. OKAY.
I NEED A MOTION. SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND IT.
COUNCILMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. SO NEW BUSINESS ONE AND THREE WILL BE HEARD.
SO WE ARE NOW ON PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS.
[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]
YES. HOW ARE YOU? I WOULD LIKE TO CALL FIRST SERGEANT KENNETH B JOHNSON UP TO THE STAGE.YES. WHAT? THAT'S AN ARMY CRY.
BUT I OH, WHERE WAS THE PASTOR THAT JUST SAID THE PRAYER? IS HE STILL HERE? PASTOR RICHIE JUST LEFT.
HE JUST LEFT. I HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE LORD FIRST FOR BLESSING ME WITH A FATHER THAT TRIED TO DO HIS BEST, TO RAISE ME UPRIGHT AND TO ESTABLISH A FIRM FOUNDATION IN THE CHURCH FOR A MOTHER WHO WAS ALWAYS MAKING SURE WE WENT TO SUNDAY SCHOOL, WHO ALWAYS MADE SURE WE WENT TO WEDNESDAY NIGHT BIBLE STUDY EVEN THOUGH I WANTED TO PLAY BASEBALL OR PLAY SPORTS.
YOU'RE LIKE, NO, YOU NEED TO GET IN THE WORD FIRST.
AND WHILE AS AN ADULT, SOMETIMES WE DEVIATE, I DEVIATE FROM THAT WALK.
EZRA, I LOVE YOU UNCONDITIONALLY, SON.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO HONOR YOUR FATHER.
I KNOW YOU WANT TO GO HOME AND PLAY WITH TOYS.
YOU'LL GET THERE SOON, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO, DAD, I APPRECIATE ALL THE YEARS, ALL THE NURTURING, ALL THE DISCIPLINE.
THE PROVERBS SPEAKS ABOUT DISCIPLINE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE WHY IS FINE.
YOU KNOW, DISCIPLINE REWARDING BECAUSE IT MEANS YOU CARE.
I THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR ME TO HONOR MY FATHER AND MOTHER.
BECAUSE, MOMMY, I KNOW IT'S HARD FOR YOU.
I'LL NEVER FORGET SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001.
YOU CHECKED US OUT OF SCHOOL WHEN IT HAPPENED, YOU WERE LIKE, DADDY'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO WAR.
AND I APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU UNCONDITIONALLY.
EVEN WHEN I DON'T SAY IT, I THINK, AND I PRAY IT.
HONOR. FIRST OF ALL, GIVING HONOR TO MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
AND JUST THANKING EVERYONE WHO, YOU KNOW WAS ABLE TO COME OUT.
BUT I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
OFTENTIMES AS A BROTHER, AS A BROTHER OF VETERANS.
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OFTENTIMES WE WE GO THROUGH THINGS MENTALLY, AND IT AFFECTS US IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.AND, YOU KNOW, THE FEAR IN THEIR EYES AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH.
SO I'M JUST THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO ON A REGULAR BASIS.
COUNCIL. I'M JUST APPRECIATIVE.
JUST LIKE THE THE BAYSIDE COURSE THAT WAS JUST HERE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THAT'S A CHALLENGING SCHOOL, ALL RIGHT? TO GET EVERYONE TO STAND.
THEY REALIZE WHEN THEY COME INTO MY CLASS, EVERYONE STANDS.
ALRIGHT, HE MENTIONED HONOR TO FATHER, BUT ALSO HONOR OF COUNTRY.
SO AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR EVERYONE THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT.
MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, SHE WORKED BEHIND THE SCENES.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. WAY TO GO, SON.
I WAS TRYING TO. THAT'S AWESOME.
OKAY. READY? THAT'S WHAT'S UP. THANK YOU.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE.
[1. Consideration of a co-sponsorship request from CareerSource Brevard for the 6th Annual Palm Bay Veteran Job Fair to be held on February 12, 2025, at the Tony Rosa Community Center.]
MR. MORGAN? YES. MAYOR.THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF A OF A CO-SPONSORSHIP REQUEST FROM CAREERSOURCE BREVARD.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OUR DANIEL WADE, OUR ACTING RECREATION DIRECTOR, CAN ANSWER THAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME COMMENT CARDS ON THAT ITEM.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE COMMENT CARDS.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A BAD CAUSE.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IT'S PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
WHY MAKE ONE PERSON HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMETHING? AND THEN YOU GIVE THAT MONEY THAT YOU COULD BRING INTO THE CITY.
YOU LET ANOTHER PERSON GET IT FOR FREE.
I JUST LOOK AT IT AS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
AND AS ALWAYS, I HAVE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MAYOR. DID YOU WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ON THAT, MR. MORGAN? REGARDING THE.
NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I DON'T SEE ANY. AND BY THE WAY, GENTLEMEN, I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THIS ITEM, BUT I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR LIGHT SYSTEM UP HERE.
I THINK WE FINALLY GOT A RESOLUTION ON ITS WAY.
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SO I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO.WHENEVER YOU WANT TO SPEAK, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TO TAP IN.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
A SECOND GOT A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[3. Consideration of a Planned Unit Development Agreement for self-storage use with Palm Bay Medical Office Corporation.]
NEW BUSINESS NUMBER THREE.YES. MR. MORGAN? YES, YES. THIS IS A CONSIDERATION OF A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR SELF STORAGE USE WITH PALM BAY MEDICAL OFFICE CORPORATION.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REALLY GREAT STAFF MEMBERS HERE TO ADDRESS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALTHEA JEFFERSON, OUR DEPUTY GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, AND MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ, OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
I DO SEE WE HAVE A FAIR NUMBER OF PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS ON THIS ITEM AS WELL.
OKAY. SO I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
THE VERY FIRST THING IS, HOW DID MR. RODRIGUEZ. YEP.
HOW DID WE GET TO THIS? THIS PART OF JUST AN AGREEMENT? INSTEAD OF IT GOING THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, IF A PUD PROCESS IS IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I'M USED TO HERE.
RIGHT. WHAT WHERE WE CAME TO IS THIS WAS A USE THAT WAS REQUESTED, THE USE OF HIS REQUESTED STORAGE UNIT UNDER THE CODE, UNDER THE FORMER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WAS LISTED AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
SO STAFF HAD A QUESTION WHETHER THIS WAS TO BE PROCESSED AS A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL APPLICATION.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS IN A PUD, THE PUD ORDINANCE, AS DRAFTED IN THE FORMER LDC, DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PERMITTED USES. PROHIBITED USES. CONDITIONAL USES UNDER A PUD.
USUALLY YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT, YOU HAVE A PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
EVERY JURISDICTION I'VE WORKED BEFORE, YOU ALSO HAVE A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT THAT LAYS OUT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THE USES PERMITTED, THOSE USES, NOT THOSE PROHIBITED USES, CONDITIONAL USES. THEY'RE ALL IN THAT PLAN.
THE APPROVAL OF BAYSIDE LAKES IN 1999 DID NOT HAVE ITS.
HOW IT WAS DONE BACK THEN DID NOT HAVE YOUR TRADITIONAL FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
WE THEN HAD USES LISTED IN A PRIVATE DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT COVERS IT.
SO THEN WE'RE STANDING IN THAT.
AND HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS THIS REQUEST.
SO UNDER THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT YOU WOULD YOU WOULD NORMALLY DO WITH A PUD.
IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION.
BUT IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE WE'LL THE CITY WILL CONSIDER IT USE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
THIS WOULD BE AN AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BE LIMITED IN SCOPE TO JUST THE PARCEL IN QUESTION.
SO THAT'S HOW THIS ONE CAME ON BOARD.
AND I THINK UNDER THE NEW REVISIONS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THESE ARE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE RESOLVED, ESPECIALLY AS NOW FUTURE PUDS ARE GOING TO HAVE PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLANS, FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
YOU CAN HAVE A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT.
I MEAN, MY EXPERIENCE USUALLY THESE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENTS CAN COME TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THESE ARE ALL LAID OUT IN THESE AGREEMENTS THAT REALLY GOVERN THE PUD.
THIS IS AN OLD ONE THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT.
THAT AND I'M GOING TO LAY IT OUT WHEN YOU SAY ABOUT THE PUD AND I'M ASKING HERE.
THIS IS AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO BE THREE STORIES ALREADY.
WELL, FOR STARTERS, THE MATTER IS COMING TO THE COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
THEREFORE, THIS COUNCIL HASN'T AGREED ON ANYTHING.
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OKAY. SO THERE'S THERE'S NO AGREEMENT.THIS IS THIS IS JUST THE TOOL THAT HAS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH TO THIS COUNCIL FOR COUNCIL TO ACT.
AND THEN SO RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, AND I'M SORRY I'M TAKING UP SO MANY QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN.
RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN IF THIS AGREEMENT IS NOT ACCEPTED BY COUNCIL, THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PROPER RECOURSE FOR, FOR THIS TO, TO GO THROUGH.
IF IT'S DENIED, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PREROGATIVE OF THE APPLICANT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY SEEK THE THE PROPER MECHANISMS UNDER STATE, UNDER STATUTE TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND SO THE PROPER PROTOCOL WOULD HAVE BEEN TO HAVE THIS AS A QUASI JUDICIAL ISSUE, GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUE, IF IT WAS TO ACTUALLY BE AN AMENDMENT TO A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO AMEND.
THAT'S THAT'S THE RUB IN THIS ONE, IS THAT IT'S NOT I'M TRACKING YOU.
YEAH. IT'S THAT THIS WAS THE MOST, I GUESS, CREATIVE WAY TO ADDRESS A SITUATION, TO PRESENT IT HERE, FOR IT TO BE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL, FOR COUNCIL TO THEN HEAR THE CASE, CONSIDER THE CASE AND THEN VOTE ACCORDINGLY.
I JUST WANTED AND YOU GAVE ME ENOUGH LEGAL GUIDANCE.
YES. YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE NOT COMPELLED TO APPROVE BECAUSE.
AND THIS WAS THE DIFFERENTIATION THAT THIS IS NOT A CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL APPLICATION.
WHEN YOU HAVE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL APPLICATIONS.
YES. THOSE GO USUALLY GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING.
AND AS LONG AS AN APPLICANT MEETS THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR A CONDITIONAL USE, THEN IT'S THEN IT CAN BE MET THE BECAUSE THAT THE PUD ORDINANCE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY LIST IN THIS CASE STORAGE UNITS AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
I DIDN'T BELIEVE I IN ADVISING WITH STAFF.
THIS WOULD BE COMING UP AS AN AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UNDERSTOOD. BECAUSE THERE IS NO OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR BAYSIDE LAKES, THEN THIS BECOMES A KIND OF A ONE OFF HYBRID IN ORDER TO BRING IT FORTH FOR CONSIDERATION, AS IT ONLY APPLIES TO THIS LOT.
THANK YOU, SIR, I APPRECIATE IT.
DEPUTY MAYOR, I GUESS WE HAVE A FEW SPEAKER CARDS.
YEAH. FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL BATTEN.
MR. MAYOR, IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN HAVE STAFF MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION? OH, ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT MIGHT SET A BROADER, PERHAPS BROADER PARAMETER ON THE DISCUSSION.
WE HAD SOME LEGAL DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK WE HAVE.
YES, SIR. THAT'S I THINK THAT WOULD SORT OF SET THE STAGE AND HELP EVERYBODY.
MR. MORGAN, THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU TO PRESENT THE ITEM, BUT.
HELP YOU HAVE A BETTER OVERVIEW.
IT'S ALREADY ON. YOU WANTED TO BRING IT? GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
TODAY YOU HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU BECAUSE AS THE CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED, THIS WAS APPROVED IN A WAY THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH HOW WE DO THINGS NOW.
YOU'RE USED TO SEEING THINGS IN A CERTAIN ORDER.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THIS USE WAS NOT ORIGINALLY STATED IN THE DEEDS AND RESTRICTIONS, NOR WAS IT IN THE APPROVED ORDINANCE FOR THIS PUD.
IN NOVEMBER OF 2023, WE HAD A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THEIR PLANS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SELF-STORAGE FACILITY.
AND AT THAT TIME, AS MR. RODRIGUEZ MENTIONED, WE DID TELL THEM THAT THERE WAS NO STRAIGHT PATH FORWARD AS IT WAS NOT PERMITTED IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAD, AND IT COULDN'T GO FORWARD AS A CONDITIONAL USE.
THAT SITE PLAN APPLICATION IS SERVING AS THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT, AND IT IS SUBSTANTIALLY THE VERY SAME AS WHAT STAFF IS STAFF HAS UNDER REVIEW CURRENTLY.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH TWO ROUNDS OF REVIEWS FOR THAT SITE PLAN.
SO WITH THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE PUD THE AGREEMENT AGAIN HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.
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THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN IS EVERYTHING ENLISTED IN OUR CURRENT CODE FOR ANY SELF-STORAGE FACILITY CITYWIDE.EVERYTHING SHOWING IN THE PRESENTED SITE PLAN APPLICATION AND IN YOUR ATTACHMENT IS THE CONCEPT THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE LIST OF REQUIREMENTS IN OUR CODE, WHICH NOT ONLY DICTATE HOW THE STORAGE FACILITY MUST MEET OUR REGULATIONS, BUT THERE'S A SECOND LITMUS TEST THAT INCLUDES JUST YOUR GENERAL PROVISIONS FOR APPROVAL OF ANY CONDITIONAL USE.
I DO WANT TO ALSO STATE THAT, AS THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS STATED ON THE MIC, MA'AM.
OH I'M SORRY. I DO ALSO WANT TO RESTATE AS THE CITY ATTORNEY MENTIONED IN OUR UPDATED CODE, AS WELL AS IN FLORIDA STATUTES, THERE ARE THERE'S A DETAILED LIST OF WHAT HAS TO BE STATED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND IN OUR CODE.
NOW, AS IT'S BEEN ADOPTED, WE WOULD REQUIRE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR A PUD ZONING AS PART OF THAT PUD REZONING OR ZONING. WE'D HAVE ALL OF THOSE DETAILS AS THEY'RE ENUMERATED IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES AND DICTATED IN OUR CODE.
FROM THERE, THEY WOULD ALSO SUBMIT THEIR PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
EVERYTHING YOU NEED LAID OUT RIGHT THERE, RIGHT NOW, THIS PARTICULAR PUD IS OPERATING UNDER PRIVATE DEEDS AND RESTRICTIONS, COVENANTS THAT WE HAVE NO SAY OVER.
SO IT IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US, AS THE ATTORNEY HAS STATED, TO FIND A WAY TO GIVE YOU YOUR RIGHTFUL AUTHORITY TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS PROCEEDS.
THANK YOU MA'AM. SO ONE QUESTION.
SO PART OF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MEETING WITH THE RESIDENTS AS WELL, WOULDN'T IT? THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION FOR.
YES. IN PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
YES. WOULD HAVE REQUIRED A CP.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL START UP ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU. MA'AM. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? YES. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.
586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET SOUTHWEST.
IS, HOW WAS THIS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PUD? I MEAN, FROM OTHER STORAGE UNITS WITH CONDITIONAL USE AS THAT.
BUT BY THE FACT OF IF WE IF THE CITY AGREES TO THIS, DOES THAT IS THAT THE FIRST STEP THAT SAYS IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED? BECAUSE WE SEE THIS WITH PLANNING AND ZONING? WELL, WE CHANGE THE ZONING AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN HAPPENED.
AND THIS HAS TO BE AUTHORIZED IN THIS ZONE.
THE SECOND QUESTION IS THIS IS FOR THIS STORAGE UNIT.
BUT THE AGREEMENT FOR BAYSIDE LAKES.
IT ENCOMPASSES ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WITHIN IN THAT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OF BAYSIDE LAKES.
THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS LAND IN THERE RIGHT NOW THAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY BE THE OPEN DOOR FOR EVERY PIECE OF LOT, EVERY VACANT LOT THAT'S COMMERCIAL TURNING INTO STORAGE UNIT, RIGHT.
THE SECOND ITEM OR THE THIRD ITEM WITH THIS ONE WAS THIS PLAN WAS PRESENTED IN 1999.
AND WHEN IT CAME, IT WAS GOING TO BE THE SAVING GRACE TO SAVE THE CITY.
BUT ALL WE SEE HAPPENING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT DEVELOPERS WANTED.
LOOK WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
THAT WAS NOT PART OF IT, BUT IT WAS THE SELLING POINT FOR IT.
THAT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE GENERAL IDEA.
AS A RESULT, WE NOW HAVE THAT BIG PIECE OF ACREAGE THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED REZONED INTO RESIDENTIAL AS A RESULT OF THAT, YOU'LL HAVE A CHANGE IN THE OVERALL IMAGE OF BAYSIDE LAKES.
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YOU CAN SEE THE CONCERN THAT WE'RE HAVING.SO 1999, THEY HAD NO REAL PLAN.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS LET'S DON'T FALL TO THE I WANT TO SAY TRICKERY.
BUT IT WASN'T BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD DEAL.
WE'VE SEEN THE FAILURE OF THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN. IS THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THERE? IS IT OKAY TO BRING UP THE.
AND, MR. THEO, DID YOU GET THOSE QUESTIONS? SO I BELIEVE I CAPTURED SOME OF THAT.
I BELIEVE YOU SAID ONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS HAD BEEN ANSWERED WITH REGARD TO HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER SELF-STORAGE FACILITY? IT WOULD NOT BE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU STATED SOMETHING ABOUT THE THE PUD IN ITSELF AND THE PROCESS THAT WAS USED.
BELIEVE ME, WHEN WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE, THIS WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST MYSTERIES I'VE EVER SEEN AS A PLANNER IN 30 YEARS. AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE THE FACT THAT WHAT HAS TO BE ENUMERATED IN, IN AN AGREEMENT IS IN THE FLORIDA STATUTES, MORE RECENT AS OF 2012, I BELIEVE.
BUT YET AND STILL THIS DOES MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO MANAGE THIS PUD WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, AND IT'S BEEN A CREATIVE WAY FOR OUR ATTORNEY TO SUGGEST THIS METHOD AS OPPOSED TO JUST USING THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS.
I THINK THAT ANSWERS HIS QUESTIONS.
NEXT. NEXT SPEAKER ROBERT STICE.
GOOD EVENING. ROBERT STICE, 1796 WINBURN DRIVE SOUTHEAST.
BAYSIDE LAKES HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CROWN JEWEL IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
YOU'VE COMMENTED ON IT A LOT, SIR.
AND I GOT TO TELL YOU, SINCE I MOVED HERE IN 2017 FROM THERE TO HEAR.
THE QUALITY OF MY LIFE IN BAYSIDE LAKES HAS BEEN REDUCED BY THE OLD BUILDING.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OUTSIDE BAYSIDE LAKES, WHICH IS WHERE MY HOA IS, EXCUSE ME, YOU HAVE A LARGE STORAGE FACILITY WOULD BE ON THE WEST SIDE OF BAYSIDE LAKES.
THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT'S GONE UP SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF BAYSIDE LAKES.
NOW YOU'RE PUTTING UP THIS MEGA OR PROPOSAL, THIS MEGA STORAGE FACILITY.
I HEARD IT WAS GOING TO BE OVER 100,000FT² BETWEEN 7-ELEVEN AND THE AMERICAN LEGION.
THIS IS PURELY UNACCEPTABLE FOR AS FAR AS THE QUALITY OF BAYSIDE LAKES GOES.
NOW, IN MY OPINION, WITH SOME OF THE SHENANIGANS OR ISSUES THAT WE HAD AT THE CLUBHOUSE A WHILE BACK WITH THE WITH THE POA AND THE HOA MANAGERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
THERE ARE RUMORS AND I'M SAYING RUMORS.
I'M WONDERING HOW A MEDICAL FACILITY HAS THIS PLAN AND WANTS TO TURN IT INTO A STORAGE FACILITY.
THAT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP WHAT I'VE HEARD.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE.
BUT AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THAT IT'S WITHIN A SQUARE MILE.
OKAY. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH IT'S WAY, WAY TOO MUCH.
SO MY TASK, MY REQUEST TO YOU FOLKS IS, IS LOOK AT THIS FROM A QUALITY OF LIFE PERSPECTIVE.
OVERGROWTH. SO YOU HAVE BAYSIDE LAKES HERE.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO CREATE THAT AND ENHANCE THAT? AND WHAT IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN 5 OR 10 YEARS? WE HAD A VOTE VOTED FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS.
OKAY. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE? WHAT I MISSED OUT ON I'M SORRY I DID, BUT WHEN I GOT OFF VACATION, I GO INTO I GO INTO PUBLIX AND THE ONE ON HERITAGE PARKWAY IS OPEN.
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I WENT IN THERE, BUT AT AT ABOUT 10:00 IN THE MORNING, IT WAS PACKED ON BAYSIDE LAKES.YOU ALREADY HAVE THIS IN HERE.
NOW YOU HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER WITH AN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DOESN'T WORK.
SO PLEASE LOOK AT ALL OF THIS BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION.
EXCUSE ME. NEXT SPEAKER. YEAH.
THE LAST SPEAKER ON THIS ITEM IS JOHN MCGEE.
THANK YOU. JOHN MCGEE, 1991 THORNWOOD DRIVE, BAYSIDE LAKES.
I SPEAK AT THIS EVENING IN TOTAL OPPOSITION TO ANY PLANNED UNIT STORAGE UNITS IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
PERIOD. WE ALREADY HAVE ONE THERE CALLED MR. THOUGHT ON BOTH SIDES OF BAYSIDE LAKES BOULEVARD.
THE LAST ADDITION TO THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE MAJOR'S GOLF COURSE.
THE EXPRESS TENT OF AND TENT OF JOY, LLC, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IS TO TURN THAT PROPERTY INTO A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, MULTI MULTI UNITS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, ETC..
THAT MEANS THAT ALL THE GREEN SPACE AND BAYSIDE LAKES IS BASICALLY GONE.
YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A RECENT MEETING WITH K E W, A DEVELOPER RUN BY MIKE ERDMAN.
HE HAS THE PROXY SAYS HE HAS PROXY VOTES TO ELIMINATE THE PARTICIPATION OF ALL CITIZENS AND TURN THE PROPERTY AND MANAGEMENT OF THE BAYSIDE LAKES INTO A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT HE HIMSELF WILL RUN AND HIS HAND SELECTED OFFICIALS.
WE MET WITH HIM IN PUBLIC FORUM ABOUT ON NOVEMBER 25TH.
THERE WERE OVER 500 PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AT THE BAYSIDE LAKES CLUBHOUSE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.
AND WE HAVE AS OF A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, OUR HOA, THE 17 HOA'S, HAVE TAKEN THE STEP TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION TO STOP THIS TAKEOVER.
SO WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO FIGHT AN OUTSIDE TAKEOVER IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S ANOTHER PLANNED STORAGE UNIT BEING APPROVED ON KOGAN DRIVE FOR ANOTHER 100,000 FOOT SQUARE FOOT, THREE STORY FACILITY AS WELL.
IF WE ALLOW ALL OF THIS TO GO ON, WE WILL HAVE THREE STORAGE UNITS IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
THAT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE RESTAURANTS.
SO WE DEMAND THAT WE STOP THIS DEVELOPMENT AND TAKE A TIMEOUT AND REVISIT BAYSIDE LAKES.
WHERE DO WE GO WITH BAYSIDE SIDE LAKES, BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THREE STORY, 100 ZERO ZERO ZERO FOOT STORAGE UNITS ARE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND WE AS A COMMUNITY OF OVER 2400 RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS WILL NOT STAND FOR IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MCGEE. THANK YOU.
YES, SIR. MR. MORGAN. YES. I'M NOT SURE IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE OR IF THEY WOULD WANT TO.
YEAH, AND THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD.
OH, ARE YOU MY DAUGHTER? YEAH.
DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? CAN YOU SPEAK? OKAY. MY NAME IS CRAIG.
I LIVE AT AT 815 SANDERLING DRIVE IN IN THE ATLANTIC.
BAYSIDE LAKES IS A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS MANAGED BY A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, A COMMERCIAL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN BAYSIDE LAKES, OBVIOUSLY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS THAT HAVE CAUSED SOME PEOPLE TO BE UNHAPPY.
THIS PROJECT WAS CONCEIVED TWO YEARS AGO, AND WHEN IT WAS CONCEIVED, IT WAS TAKEN THROUGH THE PROPER PROPER WHATEVER.
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AND IT WAS APPROVED BY THE COMMERCIAL AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF BAYSIDE LAKES IN NOVEMBER OF 2023 AND IN NOVEMBER OF 2024. I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER EFFORTS TO BUILD A STORAGE FACILITY IN BAYSIDE LAKES OTHER THAN THE ONE BEFORE YOU.YOU'RE MORE FAMILIAR WITH PUDS THAN I AM.
THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS AND THE JURISDICTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS OVER PUDS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE TWO PUDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, ONE AT BAYSIDE LAKES AND ONE AT BAYFRONT.
BUT I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN GENERALLY NOT HAVE NOT DEVELOPED AS WE WOULD HAVE HOPED.
BAYSIDE LAKES HAS ITS OWN RULES AND ITS OWN JURISDICTION.
THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU'VE HEARD BY YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL.
AND IT WAS AGREEMENT, AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS DEVELOPED OVER A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS BETWEEN MR. RODRIGUEZ AND THE LEGAL COUNSEL THAT REPRESENTS OURSELVES.
I DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH Q DEVELOPMENT.
MR.. MIKE ERDMAN, I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN BAYSIDE LAKES.
I'VE DEVELOPED THE PROPERTY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO BUILD THE THE THE STORAGE FACILITY ARE INTERESTED IN PROVIDING A FIRST A HIGH QUALITY FACILITY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS OF BAYSIDE LAKES.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IS THERE? DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER COMMERCIAL APPLICANTS OR DEVELOPERS THAT WERE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING IN YOUR PROPERTY, ON YOUR PROPERTY OTHER THAN SELF STORAGE? SO THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS 5000 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED.
AND WE HAVE OBTAINED A BUILDING PERMIT AND HAVE STARTED CONSTRUCTION ON A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING, AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL 5000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING CURRENTLY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THE PROPERTY IS SIX ACRES AND IT HAS TWO BUILDINGS CURRENTLY.
A THIRD ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND THE STORAGE FACILITY WHICH HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.
THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERENCE OF THIS COUNCIL.
SO I WASN'T SURE IF YOU HAD TO THE GENTLEMAN'S POINT.
MR.. JOHN MENTIONING MR. MCGEE. YEP. I'M MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF RESTAURANTS IN THAT AREA, BUT WE HAVE A AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR ECONOMY AND SMALL RESTAURANTS ARE ARE NOT, ARE FAILING IN OUR COMMUNITY, ARE CLOSING EVERY DAY.
THE RESTAURANT THAT WE'VE LEASED TO IS A CHAIN RESTAURANT.
AND I MEAN, WE CAN'T I DON'T OWN A RESTAURANT AND I DON'T PLAN ON OWNING A RESTAURANT.
I HAVE BUILT BUILDINGS IN THE AREA AND SOME OF THEM REMAINED VACANT FOR 20 YEARS.
SOME OF THEM, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING WAS JUST OCCUPIED AND SOLD A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
SO WE ONLY BUILD WHERE THERE SEEMS TO BE A DEMAND.
AND THAT'S IN THE VERY FRONT OF THAT PARCEL.
THIS PARCEL WAS AGAIN PURCHASED ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.
THE THE STORAGE FACILITY IS IN THE FAR BACK OF THE FACILITY.
AND IN THE REAR OF THAT PARCEL IS A RETENTION POND.
SO I THINK IT WILL BE AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE FACILITY TO BAYSIDE LAKES.
ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. OKAY.
SO, COUNCIL, I'LL NEED A MOTION TO ACCEPT OR DENY THIS AGREEMENT.
MOTION TO DENY THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR PALM BAY MEDICAL OFFICE CORPORATION.
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I SECOND. OKAY.I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMER.
NOTHING ELSE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE STAFF TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION WITH DOCTOR DIALEKTISCHE OR MAYBE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM, BECAUSE I FEEL SOMETHING OF USE COULD REALLY BE IN THAT AREA, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER SUITED FOR THE RESIDENTS AND EVERYBODY.
YES, SIR. YOU MADE THE MOTION.
AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY FEELS.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY COME UP AND SAY, WE NEED MORE STORAGE UNITS, SO I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BACK THE COMMUNITY ON THIS AS WELL AS MY ABILITY TO SLEEP TONIGHT. WELL, SO THAT THAT'S SO ELOQUENTLY PUT, YOU KNOW, AS I REFLECT ON BAYSIDE LAKES, I WAS HERE PRIOR TO BAYSIDE LAKES AND BAYSIDE LAKES, YOU'VE OFTEN HEARD ME SAY HAS BEEN THE JEWEL OF OF OUR COMMUNITY WHEN WE HAD THAT ARNOLD PALMER DESIGNED GOLF COURSE.
AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO EACH AND EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THE BAYSIDE LAKES COMMUNITY.
SO YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, SIR.
THIS AGREEMENT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD SUPPORT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
SO I GOT A MOTION TO DENY THIS AGREEMENT BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS BILL BATTEN.BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANTED TO ADDRESS.
I JUST WANTED TO WISH THE COUNCIL, BECAUSE I WON'T SEE BETWEEN NOW AND CHRISTMAS THAT EVERYBODY HAS A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS, AND MAY IT BE FULL OF PURE LOVE AND JOY FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES.
AND I WANT THAT FOR THE REST OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I NORMALLY WOULD DO THAT AT THE END OF OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT THAT MIGHT DISAPPEAR.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT IN ONE MORE TIME.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND MERRY CHRISTMAS, ONE AND ALL.
MARK MILLER. I THINK MASTER CHIEF WAS READING MY NOTES.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR AND I'LL BE OUT OF TOWN.
SO I MISSED THE FIRST ONE IN JANUARY.
MARK MILLER 898 NELSON AVENUE, PALM BAY.
I GUESS SINCE I HAVE A FEW MINUTES, THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT, THAT SECOND SESSION GOING AWAY AND REALLY THAT WHOLE ITEM SEVEN UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I KNOW IT'S COMING UP IN A MINUTE FOR PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE ANOTHER COMMITMENT THAT I'VE GOT TO RUN TO. SO GENERALLY I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH ITEM ONE.
UNDER ITEM TWO, IT LOOKED LIKE WE'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME TIME TO SPEAK.
WE'RE GOING TO LOSE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COMBINE SOME TIMES.
AT THE END OF THE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, IF A PERSON IS LATE OR CAN'T MAKE IT.
WHEN I WORKED AT BLUE, I COULDN'T GET HERE UNTIL SEVEN.
I DIDN'T EVEN GET HOME TILL SEVEN.
RIGHT. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT.
I'VE BEEN ATTENDING THE LAST 4 OR 5 MONTHS.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF AWESOME DISCUSSION UP HERE DURING THESE MEETINGS.
IT'S REAL FEEDBACK RIGHT HERE FROM WHAT JUST TOOK PLACE IN THE ROOM.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN.
AND OF COURSE, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS ARE Y'ALL'S CLOSING REPORTS.
SO IT GIVES US THE TIME TO TO TO DIGEST THAT AND SAY SOME THINGS.
AND LET'S BE REAL, THERE'S VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT COME TO THIS MEETING AND THOSE THAT DO COME.
THOSE THAT DO COME, VERY FEW EVEN STAY TILL THE END.
SO AND THOSE THAT DO STAY TILL THE END USUALLY HAVE SOME VALUE ADDED COMMENTS IN THE SECOND ROUND.
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AND IF WE REALLY CARE ABOUT THE IDEAS AND THE INPUT FROM OUR CITIZENS, I DON'T THINK RIGHT NOW IS THE TIME TO REMOVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK.JUST BECAUSE OTHER CITIES DON'T DO IT.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS PALM BAY DOES.
SO 30 SOME YEARS, EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP LONG MEETINGS ARE AWFUL.
BUT I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETTER TO IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE AND EFFICIENCY OF THE MEETING, RATHER THAN TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK.
PASTOR MILLER, I HAD A QUESTION.
IF YOU HAD A CHOICE OF JUST ONE PUBLIC COMMENT SESSION, WOULD YOU PREFER IT AT THE END? I WOULD, I WOULD PUT IT, I WOULD PUT IT AT THE BEGINNING.
AND OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THESE MEETINGS RUN REALLY, REALLY, REALLY LONG.
I THINK MOST OF THE VALUE ADDED COMMENTS AND I, AND I THINK THERE'S AN ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PEOPLE TO DON'T JUST COME UP HERE AND RAMBLE FOR THREE MINUTES IF YOU DON'T HAVE A POINT TO MAKE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUESTION TO ASK OR A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM, THEN THEY'LL JUST COME UP HERE AND RAMBLE FOR THREE MINUTES, RIGHT? JUST COME UP HERE. BE PREPARED.
COME UP ON PURPOSE, AND LET'S HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME QUALITY DISCUSSION.
THANK YOU. YEAH. NEXT SPEAKER, LAURA REVELS.
LAURA REVELS, 410 NEPTUNE DRIVE IN PALM BAY.
LOCHMOR USED TO BE A JEWEL OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL, UNTIL PCA MOVED IN THREE YEARS AGO.
SINCE THEN, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SIGNIFICANTLY GONE DOWNHILL WITH THE TRAFFIC.
AND LOCHMOOR RESIDENTS ARE TAXPAYERS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND WE DESERVE TO HAVE A PEACEFUL, QUIET LIFE AND A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND THAT HAS GONE DOWNHILL SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THE SCHOOL MOVED IN.
THEY'VE HAD NO INTEREST IN RESOLVING THE TRAFFIC ISSUES.
THEY MADE LITTLE TO NO PROGRESS IN DOING ANYTHING.
SO WHAT I AM GOING TO ASK YOU, MAYOR, TO DO IS EFFECTIVE.
WE NEED TO GET THIS TRAFFIC OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO US THAT LIVE THERE.
WE DEAL WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
I HAVE PICTURES AND PAMPHLETS TO HAND OUT TO ALL OF YOU SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
WE'VE SENT VIDEOS, PICTURES HUNDREDS OVER THE PAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, AND IT'S ABOUT TIME PCA STEP UP AND RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
THERE'S ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT IS AN EASY SOLUTION THAT THEY CAN DIRECT ALL THE TRAFFIC TO THEIR ON THEIR FOR THEIR SCHOOL, ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
NOW THEY OWN THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET ON EMERSON.
THEY CAN USE THAT AS WELL TO GET IT OUT OF THE STREETS.
IT'S NOT FAIR. IT'S NOT FAIR TO US.
WE CAN'T BIKE RIDE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
IT'S TOO DANGEROUS AND IT NEEDS TO STOP.
PCA NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
THEY GET STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS.
PLUS THEY HAVE PRIVATE DONOR AND DONATIONS FROM INVESTORS, SOME OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
SO YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NOW BECAUSE THE CITIZENS OF LOCHMERE ARE GETTING REALLY TIRED OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS ON A DAILY BASIS. AND I MYSELF, FOR ONE, MY QUALITY OF LIFE HAS GONE DOWNHILL.
WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
IN LOCK MAR WAS THE JEWEL OF PALM BAY, BUT IT ISN'T ANYMORE.
SO IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO COME UP AND HAND ONE OF THESE TO EACH OF YOU.
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SURE, YOU CAN HAND IT TO ME AND I'LL PASS IT ON.THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
JUST SO THAT YOU KNOW, MA'AM, THIS ONE'S YOURS.
COUNCIL. JUST AS MR. MORGAN, JUST AS A BRIEF.
WE'VE BEEN DEALING, AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE.
WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH PCA IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND AND I KNOW THAT I KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU'RE SERVING AS AN INTERIM, MR. MORGAN. HOWEVER, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD START ADDRESSING EVEN MORE EFFECTIVELY, IN MY OPINION.
I STILL THINK BLACKMORE IS A JEWEL IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I KNOW THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED IN THE PAST HAVING OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MISS MRS. SMITH OR MISS SMITH YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH BRINGING THEM TO THE TABLE TO SEE HOW THEY COULD EFFECTIVELY START BUSSING. I KNOW BUSSING WAS AN ISSUE.
AND SINCE THEN WE HAVEN'T HAD I KNOW WE'VE GOT THREE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I JUST WANTED TO TRY AND BRING YOU UP TO SPEED.
WE'VE BEEN EFFECTIVELY ATTEMPTING TO WORK WITH PCA, AND WE JUST NEED TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
PERHAPS WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET IT 100%, PERCENT, BUT THE SUGGESTION OF THEM BRINGING THEIR VEHICLES ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN A TARGET. AND IF THAT CAN'T BE ACCOMPLISHED, THEN PERHAPS BUS THE CHILDREN IN TO AVOID ALL THAT TRAFFIC IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE I THINK MR. VALENTINO PEREZ HAS BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS IN THE INTERIM.
WE ALSO HAVE LOST TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO WAS TASKED WITH THAT CAPACITY.
SO THAT MIGHT HAVE FELL BETWEEN THE CRACKS AS WELL.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.
AND CERTAINLY OUR GOAL AS STAFF IS THE SAME AS THE COUNCIL IS TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN ENCOURAGE IT, TO HAVE IT BE BETTER, AND WE WON'T STOP TRYING TO DO THAT.
THANK YOU SIR. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT TO GET MORE CARS OFF THE ROAD OF EMERSON TO EXTEND THAT TURN LANE THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER WENT ON THAT, BUT THAT WAS ONCE A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.
BUT AS LONG AS AS STAFF IS GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON SEEING WHAT OTHER RESOLUTIONS WE COULD COME UP WITH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THIS NEXT SCHOOL YEAR IS ABOUT THE YOU KNOW, THE SECOND SEMESTER, I SHOULD SAY, IS ABOUT TO START.
SO, YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO SOMETHING BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE AUGUST SCHOOL YEAR OPENS, IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CONSTRUCTED, A SUMMERTIME MIGHT BE MIGHT BE GOOD TO SO THAT IT'S BETTER, AT LEAST AT THE START OF THE NEW YEAR.
TO THE EXTENT, AGAIN, THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO TO DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT BETTER.
I'M TRACKING THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME, SIR.
SO WHATEVER WE COULD DO TO IN THE INTERIM, AT LEAST THAT'S MY MY POSITION ON COUNCIL.
MY POSITION IS THAT WE NEED TO EXHAUST EVERY EFFORT AT THIS POINT TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE THAT PROCESS.
WE'VE HAD LAW ENFORCEMENT OUT THERE, WE'VE ISSUED CITATIONS, WE'VE DONE SEVERAL.
I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVEN'T TAKEN THIS SERIOUSLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING ELSE HAS GOT TO BE DONE.
GENTLEMEN. NEXT SPEAKER, NATHAN FARLEY.
SO I REPRESENT A NONPROFIT GROUP CALLED SORRY, I'VE NEVER BEEN UP HERE BEFORE.
THAT'S OKAY. SO TAKE YOUR TIME, BUDDY.
NO BIG DEAL. WE'RE GOING TO START YOU ALL OVER AGAIN.
GO AHEAD. SO I REPRESENT A NONPROFIT CALLED COMPASSIONATE YOUTH CARE.
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SO I RECENTLY APPLIED THROUGH DCF BECAUSE I WANTED TO CARE FOR UNDERAGE YOUTH.SO I WAS RECENTLY DENIED BY ZONING BECAUSE THERE'S A RESTRICTION IN THE FEDERAL STATUTE THAT REQUIRED TWO GROUP HOMES, COMMUNITY GROUP HOMES THAT CAN'T BE LESS THAN 1000FT.
IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN 1000FT APART.
BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT STATUTE WELL, FIRST, THAT THEY GIVE LOCAL MUNICIPALITY THE POWER TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION BASICALLY TO APPROVE OR DENY IT.
BUT I WANTED TO SEE I ASKED THEM IF THERE WAS ANY WAY TO APPEAL IT.
THEY SAID NO, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT'S.
THAT'S NOT FAIR, RIGHT? I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE A NURSING HOME, AND I'M A DCF PROVIDER, AND WE'RE NOT IN COMPETITION.
AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE WHY IT WOULDN'T BE ACCEPTABLE TO HAVE ONE THERE.
YOU KNOW, I RENOVATED A HOME ALREADY, BASICALLY.
DCF DID APPROVE IT AND DEFINED THE ZONING.
DENIED IT. IT WAS KIND OF YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S RIGHT.
ESPECIALLY I FEEL LIKE THE STATUE VIOLATES THE FAIR HOUSING ACT.
SO I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT I CAN HAVE A SPECIAL USE CASE.
SO CAN I ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS? YEAH. SO THIS GROUP HOME THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, IS THIS YOUR BUSINESS? IT'S A NONPROFIT. YEAH, IT'S A NONPROFIT BUSINESS.
YES. AND WHAT DO YOU PROVIDE FOR THESE YOUTH? HOME. HOME CARE.
AND THESE ARE AT RISK YOUTH THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEM SOMEHOW.
THEY'RE. THEY'RE MINOR CHILDREN.
WHAT ARE THEIR AGES? RANGE BETWEEN UP TO 18.
RIGHT. UP TO 18 YEARS OF AGE? YES. OKAY. AND THIS IS A THIS IS A FLORIDA STATUTE.
OKAY. I CAN GIVE YOU THE STATUTE.
WELL, I THINK I'M GOING TO ASK OUR STAFF AT THIS POINT REGARDING.
YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
AND MAYBE THAT'S UNFORTUNATE IN THIS CASE, BUT WE'RE WE'RE BOUND TO FOLLOW THE LAW.
OKAY. SO HE'S SAYING THAT THERE'S SOMEHOW AN EXEMPTION FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO.
YEAH. IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE? THAT THAT WAS MY QUESTION FOR STAFF.
CAN CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME A SECOND? I WANT TO FIGURE. FIGURE THIS OUT.
CAN STAFF ANSWER? YEAH. LET'S HAVE OUR DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU. I'M UNAWARE, BUT HE MAY HAVE A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING THAN THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY OR.
OKAY. ALTHIA, YOU WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT? IS THERE. IS THERE? I REALLY JUST WANTED TO OFFER MY CARD TO THE GENTLEMAN.
MR. MAYOR, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS SPECIFIC CASE.
THERE ARE STATUTORY DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DUPLICATES, MIMICS.
DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS ARE STATE.
I GOT YOU. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, SIR.
IF IF OUR HANDS ARE TIED, OUR HANDS ARE TIED.
BUT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR OUR YOUTH.
RIGHT. THERE ARE MANY YOUTH THAT THAT NEED THAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP.
AND THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND CREATING A 501 C3 AND GETTING APPROVED BY DCF.
SO THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU STILL HAD A MINUTE.
I HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. COME ON IN.
SO SO LET'S SAY IF I'M NOT ABLE TO GET ANYWHERE FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT, IS THERE LIKE WHAT IS THE PROCESS.
BECAUSE WHEN I START TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUDDY, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT IF THERE IS A PROCESS, IF THERE IS AN APPEAL PROCESS OR IF IT'S A STATE MANDATE, THAT OR STATE LAW THAT WE CAN'T BREAK, THEN YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL RECOUP.
MR. MORGAN CAN IN THE FOLLOW UP.
BUT IN THAT, IN THAT OUR ATTORNEY HAS IT UP.
RIGHT. THE STATUTE, IF YOU WANT ME TO READ IT, READS AT HOMES OF SIX OR FEWER RESIDENTS, WHICH OTHERWISE MEET THE DEFINITION OF A COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL HOME SHALL BE DEEMED A SINGLE FAMILY UNIT IN A NONCOMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL USE FOR THE PURPOSE OF LOCAL LAWS AND ORDINANCES.
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HOMES OF SIX OR FEWER RESIDENTS, WHICH OTHERWISE MEET THE DEFINITION OF A COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL HOME, SHALL BE ALLOWED IN SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY ZONING WITHOUT APPROVAL BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, PROVIDED THAT SUCH HOMES ARE NOT LOCATED WITHIN A RADIUS OF 1000FT OF ANOTHER EXISTING SUCH HOME, WITH SIX OR FEWER RESIDENTS, OR WITHIN A RADIUS OF 1200FT OF ANOTHER EXISTING COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL HOME.SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE SO IN D.C.
AND THE STATE PROVIDES TO THE CITY THE LOCATION OF ALL OF THESE COMMUNITY COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL HOMES FOR THE CITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THIS LOCATION IS WITHIN THAT, THAT RADIUS.
SO THE PROHIBITION ACTUALLY COMES FROM THE STATE.
THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO SEE YOUR STATE LEGISLATURE.
SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. ATTORNEY. NEXT SPEAKER.
JUDY CRANDALL, 751 PEBBLE BEACH AVENUE NORTHEAST.
I'M GOING TO READ THIS SO I CAN GET THROUGH IT.
I POSTED A QUESTION ON NEXTDOOR ON WHAT BUSINESSES RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME TO PALM BAY.
HERE'S A SUMMARY TO MY QUESTION.
THE PEOPLE OF PALM BAY WOULD LIKE TO SEE LESS OVERDEVELOPMENT OF HIGH DENSITY HOMES, MORE SHOPPING AND FINE DINING CHOICES, A REAL DOWNTOWN AREA FOR STROLLING AND BUSINESSES.
A BUCKY'S FOR CAPTIONING PEOPLE TRAVELING ON I-95.
MORE ENTERTAINMENT, INCLUDING TRADER JOE'S AS THE MOST REQUESTED BUSINESS.
LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND STORAGE UNITS WERE THE MAIN COMPLAINT.
TRADER JOE'S AND MOST OTHER COMPANIES LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE CITY.
COUNCIL NEEDS TO ATTRACT HIGH END JOBS AND HOMES TO CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT.
SO THESE COMPANIES WILL TAKE A LOOK AT US.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION TO CHANGE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FROM BEING A REACTIVE REVIEW COMMITTEE, AFTER THE FACT OF APPLICATIONS, TO A PROACTIVE BOARD THAT WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND PROPERTY OWNERS OF THE AVAILABLE RETAIL COMMERCIAL ZONING, THAT'S VERY PRECIOUS ZONING AND AND DISCUSS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
I SEE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT DISSOLVING THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
HERE'S ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
HAVE THEM CIRCLE OUT WHAT'S REALLY DETRIMENTAL ENVIRONMENTALLY AND AND WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, PROTECT OUR WATERS, PROTECT OUR WETLANDS.
AND THEY COULD BE MORE PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE.
I THINK THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR THESE BOARDS.
BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE MORE SAY I'M SORRY.
MA'AM, I GOT TO TELL YOU, THE VERY FIRST THING IS I AGREE WITH YOU.
WE HAVE SENT LETTERS TO DIFFERENT RESTAURANT CHAINS.
WE HAVE? I'VE SENT ELON MUSK SEVERAL LETTERS TO COME INVEST IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I'VE SENT LETTERS TO JEFF BEZOS.
I AND WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THAT AND OUR ECONOMIC GROWTH.
DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, MA'AM.
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SPECIFICALLY SAID WE PUT OUR STORES IN A HIGH END COMMUNITY, BUT THEY LOOK FOR THE CHEAPEST BUILDING IN A HIGH END COMMUNITY, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO DISPERSE THERE TO TO DELIVER GOODS.WELL, WE COULD DEFINITELY TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM, MA'AM.
WE HAVE TO RAISE OUR INCOME LEVEL.
NEXT SPEAKER. JAMES ZACCHIA MONACO.
I'M JAMES MONACO, 811 CHICKASAW AVENUE IN MELBOURNE.
WE HAD TALKED TO MR. MEDINA, THE MAYOR. I'VE TALKED TO YOU ON THE PHONE ABOUT THE BMX TRACK.
YES, SIR. I'M THE FACE THAT WAS ON THE PHONE WITH YOU.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SEEING HOW WE ARE DOING WITH THAT.
OUR THOUGHT WAS, COULD WE GET TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU? SIT DOWN WITH THE BOARD.
THE CITY MANAGER AND GO OVER LITERALLY GO OVER WHAT OUR VISION WAS AND WHAT OUR VISION IS AND TO SEE WHAT LIKE, OKAY, IS THIS THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE OUR REAL NUMBERS, NOT NUMBERS THAT WERE THAT WERE POSTED.
BUT YET WE'RE PULLING NUMBERS FROM ANOTHER FACILITY.
YOU KNOW, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS WE'LL BE DOWN AT OKEEHEELEE.
OKEEHEELEE IS A STATE QUALIFIER AND THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND IS A NATIONAL AND IT'S A WORLD QUALIFIER.
SO OUR STATE QUALIFIER, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT EVENT IS GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN NORMAL JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD COMING TO RIDE FIRST SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO, GET THEMSELVES SET UP.
SO WHEN THEY GO FOR THAT WORLD QUALIFICATION, AND THAT'S WHERE YOUR OLYMPIC RIDERS COME FROM.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS TOO IS WE ARE WORKING WITH BOMBARDIER.
THEY WERE LIKE, HEY, OUR BMX TEAM DOESN'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO IN THE WINTER.
WHAT IF WE COULD MAKE PALM BAY THEIR WINTER TRAINING CENTER? AND, YOU KNOW, THINKING ABOUT INDIAN HARBOR BEACH.
WHAT'S AN INDIAN HARBOR BEACH? A MAJOR TRAINING CENTER FACILITY FOR CREW RACING FOR CREW BOATS, CREW TEAMS. I MEAN, WE STARTED THAT IN, LIKE 77.
THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE ALL THE CREW SHELLS FROM, THERE'S TEAMS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT HAVE PROPERTY THERE THAT HAVE BOUGHT HOMES, THAT ARE PAYING TAXES, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, BRINGING MONEY, BRINGING OUTSIDE MONEY AND BRINGING, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S NOT THE DAILY MONEY, IT'S NOT EVERYBODY'S PAYCHECK.
DEVELOPMENT COMES FROM OUTSIDE MONEY.
SO, YOU KNOW, BUILDING A RECYCLING CENTER FACILITY WOULD REALLY BENEFIT US.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO NEED RESTAURANTS.
SO COUNCIL, I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEF.
WE HAD A PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU GOT ON ON THE DAIS REGARDING BMX.
AND IN MY CONVERSATION THEY THIS COUPLE CALLED ME.
ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO, AND AND THEY SAID THOSE NUMBERS AND THAT THAT SCHEMATICS FOR THAT BMX PARK IS, LIKE, WAY OFF.
SO THEY, THEY HAD A CLOSER HONING IN OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK AND, AND SO WITH THAT I SAID, OKAY.
I DID BRING IT UP JUST FOR COUNCIL'S INFORMATION.
I DID BRING IT UP BECAUSE I AM A TDC COUNCIL MEMBER.
RIGHT. SO I DID BRING THAT UP.
THEIR, THEIR FUNDING IS KIND OF TIED UP FOR AT LEAST TWO CYCLES HERE.
BUT THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE HORIZON THAT THEY FEEL MIGHT MIGHT BE A FIT.
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SO WHAT I, I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT THIS, THIS COUPLES GO BACK WITH OUR STAFF IF POSSIBLE AND WORK SOMETHING OUT.AND MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY SHARE WITH ME.
THE PRESENTATION WAS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT, SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO HEAR IT.
IT'S UP TO IT'S UP TO COUNSEL.
YEAH. THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE KIND OF HAD MY HANDS IN AS WELL, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
WE'RE WAITING ON AN ENGINEERING STUDY ON THAT.
I'M NEW, BUT I GUESS I HAVE A BASIC QUESTION.
IS, IS THIS A PRIVATE CAPITAL? AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO BE A SITE? I THINK THIS IS FOR US TO.
FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO FUND THE CITY TO.
YEAH. SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT DOLLARS ULTIMATELY WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A BUDGET THING, RIGHT? IT'S A PRIORITY. AND WHAT WOULD THIS COMPETE AGAINST WHEN OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS IN OUR PARK SYSTEM AND FOR THAT KIND OF THING.
AND SO THAT'S SORT OF A BUDGET CAPITAL TIMING THING.
SO IT HAD TO DO WITH IMPACT FEES AND, AND COMBINED WITH TDC FUNDS IS WHAT, WHAT I HAD SAID, I THINK IF TDC TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL SELLS INTO THIS BECAUSE THIS WILL BRING HEADS AND BEDS AND THAT'S HOW WE LEFT IT.
AND THEN WHEN, WHEN THIS GENTLEMAN REACHED OUT, HE SAID, THOSE NUMBERS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY, YOU KNOW, HIGHER OF WHAT THE ACTUAL NEED WOULD BE.
IF AM I QUOTING YOU CORRECTLY, SIR? YES. OKAY. WHAT THE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, THE THEORY IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT DID THE PRESENTATION, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, IT'S COMING TO THE CITY.
WRITE ME A CHECK FOR $2 MILLION.
WE ALREADY KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND IT'S LIKE, OKAY THERE'S OTHER ENTITIES OUT THERE WHERE WE CAN GET THE FUNDING TO BUILD A FACILITY, BUT TO BUILD THE FACILITY BIG ENOUGH TO TURN AROUND AND SAY, YES, WE CAN DO NOT ONLY LOCAL EVENTS, BUT NATIONAL EVENTS.
WORLD EVENTS, WORLD EVENTS IN ANY SPORT IS WHERE YOUR OLYMPIANS COME FROM.
AND RIGHT NOW, FLORIDA IS GROWING IN THE BMX WORLD TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OLYMPIANS THAT ARE ACTUALLY RUNNING TRACKS HERE AS WELL AS WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF PRO RIDERS ALL OVER THE STATE.
THE LAST TIME I WAS RUNNING THE SAINT CLOUD BMX, THE THE FOLKS BEFORE WERE LIKE, WHY WOULD YOU WANT THE PROS HERE? I'M LIKE, DO YOU EVER GO TO A CONCERT? I'M LIKE, DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S IN THE MUSIC BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, ROCK OR COUNTRY, AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, I BET IF WE DO A PRO DAY JUST TO HAVE THEM COME OUT AND PRACTICE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE MEETING GOING.
IT'S BROUGHT A TON OF THAT BROUGHT A TON OF MONEY IN RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE MEETING GOING.
SO I GUESS THE THE POINT IS HE HAD A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION, AND THEY'RE ACTIVELY IN THIS AND A DIFFERENT SOURCE OF RESOURCES THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS AS WELL.
AND AND PERHAPS DO WE HAVE HIS NAME AND INFORMATION.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. BECAUSE I'M THINKING IF WE HAD A MOMENT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN, SIR.
THANK YOU. WE GOT TO KEEP HIM.
CHRISTIE. READ. MY NAME IS CHRISTY REED, AGE 11, CHICKASAW AVENUE IN MELBOURNE.
I WILL GIVE YOU SOME SUBSTANTIAL NUMBERS.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT A BMX TRACK.
BEING HERE. WE'RE FUNDING DOES NOT COME FROM THE CITY.
IT IS HANDLED THROUGH PARKS AND REC.
IT IS HANDLED THROUGH A THIRD PARTY NONPROFIT ASSOCIATION OF ALL VOLUNTEERS, WHICH MEANS WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT HAD BEEN GIVEN TO THIS COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A CONCRETE COMPOSITE, WHICH IS A SWIMMING POOL, WHICH IS LIKE THE SKATE PARKS.
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YOU'RE DONE.THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A PUMP TRACK THROUGH THAT.
THE PLANS THAT JUSTIN GAVE YOU ALL, THAT IS A LIABILITY WAITING TO HAPPEN.
YOU HAVE GENTLEMEN LIKE MR. SANTA MONICA THAT WHEN HE GETS ON A BICYCLE OFF AN EIGHT METER HILL, IS DOING 35 MILES AN HOUR ON A 20 INCH BICYCLE.
YOU DON'T WANT KIDS OUT THERE ON SCOOTERS.
YOU HAVE THE FLORIDA SPORTSMEN GRANTS.
YOU HAVE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT WHICH HELP COVER IT.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD OF POSSIBLY BRINGING IN ANYWHERE FROM 8 TO $12 MILLION OF REVENUE ONE WEEKEND AS A STATE QUALIFIER IN THIS THIS STATE, WHICH FLORIDA HAS THE LARGEST STATE QUALIFIERS IN THIS COUNTRY AND CANADA.
WE RUN OVER 2000 RIDERS IN THIS STATE ALONE.
THEIR AGE RANGE IS TWO YEARS OLD TO 78 YEARS OLD THAT ARE WRITING.
I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE FRIENDS.
I BELIEVE MR. HAMMER HAS A FRIEND THAT RIDES.
HE RIDES OUT OF SAINT CLOUD BMX.
WE'RE TAKING OUR REVENUE DOLLARS AND SPENDING THEM IN ANOTHER COUNTY.
IN ANOTHER CITY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO BUILD THAT.
WE WANT TO BUILD A PREMIER COMPLEX HERE.
AND WHEN I'M TALKING PREMIER, TAKE A LOOK.
THAT IS A PREMIER WORLD TRACK.
WE HAVE ONE TRACK OVER IN TAMPA, IN OLDSMAR THAT IS ALSO PREMIER.
IT IS OPEN MAYBE TWO DAYS A WEEK.
MAYBE THEY HAVE A CITY EMPLOYEE OUT THERE, WHICH THEY'RE PAYING.
WE'RE WITH WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO HERE.
THE CITY GIVES US THE LAND, BASICALLY HELPS US GET THE FUNDING AND WE TAKE CARE OF IT.
NEXT SPEAKER. MICHAEL BRUNETTI.
MICHAEL MORIARTY, 742 CORNELIA AVENUE.
AND BY THE WAY, IT STOOD UP TO THE FIRST RAIN.
THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ASK IS I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS CITY HOLDS ITSELF ACCOUNTABLE FOR DAMAGES FROM CITY PROPERTY TO PERSONAL PROPERTY.
THAT'S THE QUESTION I WANT TO ASK, BECAUSE I'VE REACHED OUT TO PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY AND HAVE GOTTEN NEGATIVE RESULTS. AND I KNOW THAT SOME CITY OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN OUT AT MY HOME AND SEEING THE DAMAGE.
AND I KNOW SOME OF THE WORKERS HAVE SEEN THE DAMAGE, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
SO I'M ASKING THIS CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO THE MATTER WHEN I REACH OUT, WHEN I REACH OUT TO A RISK ASSESSMENT AND THEY TELL ME, WELL, WE'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR NATURAL CAUSES.
IT'S CITY PROPERTY THAT DESTROYED MY PERSONAL PROPERTY, ERODED MY THIS WHOLE SIDE OF MY DRIVEWAY, CRACKED MY DRIVEWAY. IS A CITY GOING TO HOLD ITSELF ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS STUFF? THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION.
MR. ATTORNEY, IF WE COULD LOOK INTO THIS, I'M NOT SURE OF ALL THE DETAILS.
I'VE VISITED THIS PROPERTY, AND THE DRIVEWAY IS JACKED UP.
IT IS. SO I GAVE HIS CONTACT TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY, PATRICIA SMITH, ON MONDAY.
MONDAY, I BELIEVE MONDAY OR TUESDAY.
OKAY, WELL, DON'T DISCUSS THAT.
BUT. SO I PASSED IT ON TO MR. SMITH. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS NOW, BUT THAT'S AS FAR AS I GOT.
SO YOU PASSED IT ON ON MONDAY? MONDAY OR TUESDAY? MONDAY. THIS PAST MONDAY JUST PAST.
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OKAY? YES, SIR. OKAY, SO IT'S BEING LOOKED INTO.YES. AS FAR, AS FAR AS I KNOW, SHE'S NOT HERE TO SPEAK TO IT, SO.
RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, THAT MR. RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? BECAUSE I HAD YOU ON QUEUE? WELL, NO, IF IT'S IF YOU'VE SPOKEN WITH MISS SMITH, THEN IT'LL BE ADDRESSED BY OUR RISK.
YEAH. AND I KNOW HE HE SPOKE TO MISS SPIVEY OF RISK.
SO BEING THAT MISS SMITH IS OVER.
MISS SPIVEY, HE WANTED TO SPEAK TO THE TOP.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CONVERSATION HAPPENED.
SHE TOLD ME SHE DID ATTEMPT TO CALL.
AND IT'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH, SO.
OKAY. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A RESOLUTION.
SO JUST TO INFORM YOU PATRICIA SMITH WILL BE REACHING OUT TO YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE, BUT IT'S AT LEAST A CONVERSATION WILL ENSUE.
WE CAN'T HAVE THIS DIALOG, BUT AT LEAST WE'LL WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NEXT.
PAT DALPRA FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE.
GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO WISH YOU ALL A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HOPEFULLY SATURDAY WILL GO AWESOME.
I DO WANT TO PRAY THAT SATURDAY.
WHAT HAPPENS SATURDAY THIS SATURDAY? YEAH. WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU GOTTA SAY IT. WHAT'S GOING ON? THE EXTRAVAGANZA.
I DO WANT TO MENTION THAT WITH PINEAPPLE COVE, THOSE SCHOOLS ARE REPRESENTING HILLSDALE COLLEGE.
SO MAYBE THEY SHOULD WRITE TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE COLLEGE AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
GOOD. I'M GLAD YOU LIKE THAT ONE.
SO BRIEFLY, I'M STANDING FOR ALL THE CITIZEN CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.
WE WANT TO SEE OUR ROADS TAKEN CARE OF.
WIDENING OF BABCOCK SOUTH OF MALABAR.
WIDENING OF MALABAR WEST OF MINTON.
SEE IF WE CAN PUSH THOSE DATES UP SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT DONE SOONER.
WHEREVER THE MONEY IS COMING FROM THE FLOODING ISSUE.
AND YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT DAMAGE TO HIS YARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY WE AS RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO DEAL AND FIX THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE CAUSED BY BUILDERS CREATING FLOODING PROBLEMS OR DAMAGING PROPERTY.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF IT? SHOULD THEY NOT BE RESPONSIBLE? SOMEBODY ALREADY TALKED ABOUT COMPOUND.
IN THE NORTHEAST ESPECIALLY, WE TALKED ABOUT BEAUTIFICATION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I WANT TO SEE THAT MOVING FORWARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TREES ALONG THE MEDIANS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SIDEWALKS FIXED.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE INSTEAD OF CUTTING DOWN ALL THE TREES THAT WE HIDE SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS INSTEAD OF BEING IN FULL VIEW. WHEN I GO UP AND DRIVE THROUGH PORT ORANGE, A LOT OF THOSE BUILDINGS YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE BEHIND SHRUBBERY, TREES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WORK MORE ON THAT, PRESERVING WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE INSTEAD OF CUTTING IT ALL DOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF OUR PARKS BEAUTIFIED.
WE STILL HAVE PARKING LOTS THAT NEED TO BE PAVED.
WE HAVE PICKLEBALL COURTS THAT NEED TO BE BUILT.
WE NEED MORE ACTIVITIES FOR YOUTH.
I WAS GIVING YOU AN EXTRA 2 OR 3 SECONDS BECAUSE I INTERRUPTED YOU.
NEXT SPEAKER. TRICIA SCHMIDHOFER.
CIRCLE NORTHEAST DOWN IN FAIR HAVEN SUBDIVISION.
THE NEW SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO THERE WAS A LAW WITH BREVARD.
I'VE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE SINCE 1999.
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SO HAS. AND IT WAS BUILT IN 79.STILL HAS THE ORIGINAL SEPTIC.
THERE'S SEWAGE ALL AROUND MY NEIGHBORHOOD, EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 60 HOMES.
LIKE, MY NEIGHBOR BEHIND ME HAS SEWAGE, SO I DON'T BEFORE I INVEST IN A WHOLE NEW SYSTEM OR GO THROUGH THE GRANTS AND ALL THAT THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
WHEN I CALLED UTILITIES AND ASKED, IS SEPTIC EVEN, I MEAN, SORRY, SEWER GOING TO EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS AREA? THEY SAID THE ONLY THING ON THE SLATE WAS TO REPAIR SYSTEMS ALREADY THERE.
SO I GUESS WHY DOES 60 HOMES IN SURROUNDED BY SEWAGE NOT.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE SEWAGE? AND HOW CAN WE ASK FOR THAT? HOW CAN THAT HAPPEN? OKAY. YEAH.
BECAUSE IF IF I'M GOING TO GET A WHOLE NEW SEPTIC AND THEN.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST MORE MONEY.
YEAH, THAT COST IS ASTRONOMICAL.
TO TO REDO THE SEPTIC TANK, A NEW SYSTEM IS 14 TO 16,000.
WOW. YET I HAVEN'T APPLIED FOR ANY OF THE GRANTS YET, BUT THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO UP TO 18.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO OUR UTILITIES? I DID, I DID CALL, AND WHAT WAS THEIR RESPONSE? I, I ASKED IF SEWAGE WAS GOING TO BE CONSIDERED AND THEY SAID, RIGHT NOW EVERYTHING'S GOING TO REPAIR.
WHAT'S OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY IN PLACE? BUT THERE IS SEWAGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YEAH, I LOOKED ON THE INTERACTIVE MAP AND THERE'S SEWER AND WATER AVAILABLE ALL AROUND US, EXCEPT THERE'S LIKE A PATCH THAT WE DON'T HAVE IT.
AND MAYBE THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
MAYBE. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M GOING TO POINT TO SOMEONE SO THAT HE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP.
YOU SEE THAT YOUNG, DISTINGUISHED MAN WITH THE GRAY HAIR THERE.
IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND HAVING A SIDEBAR WITH HIM, MA'AM.
OKAY. THANKS FOR COMING BEFORE COUNCIL TO NEXT SPEAKER ROBERT STICE.
GOOD EVENING. ROBERT STICE, 1796 WINBURN DRIVE SOUTHEAST.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REPUBLIC, AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT THREE MONTHS AGO.
WE HAD THESE HUGE SPOTS IN THE AREA.
HIS I'LL CALL IT A CLEANUP COMPANY CAME OUT TO SPRAY, AND THEY HAVE TO CONTINUE TO SPRAY IN THESE AREAS TO TO ALLOW THESE STAINS TO START THOSE OIL STAINS.
YES, SIR. TO START THE CLEANING.
IT'S A TRASH. THE TRASH TRUCK IN HERE.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SO I KNOW REPUBLIC.
I JUST TALKED TO ONE OF THE REPS BACK.
BACK THERE? I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON IT, BUT SOME OF MY SUGGESTIONS, THERE'S GOT TO BE LANGUAGE IN THE IN THE CONTRACT WITH REGARD WITH REGARD TO PERFORMANCE. YOU DON'T EVALUATE ONCE A YEAR.
YOU NEED TO EVALUATE EVERY QUARTER.
IT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO EVALUATE, BECAUSE THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM THAT HASN'T GONE AWAY.
MR. MAYOR, WE TALKED ABOUT YOU GAVE DIRECTION THAT.
WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH REPUBLIC? WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? YOU HAVE AN ONGOING SITUATION.
I'M LOOKING AT THAT AND THINKING, WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON HERE? SO WE REALLY HAVE A SERIOUS SITUATION, AND IT CANNOT JUST BE MY HOA OR SUMMERFIELD.
SO I'M ASKING STAFF, LET'S DO A DEEP DIVE INTO THIS, PLEASE.
GOT TO FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON AND WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THAT.
SO THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD AGAIN I WOULD LOOK AT THAT, THAT CONTRACT AND DO A DEEP DIVE AND LOOK AT WHERE YOU CAN ATTACH AMENDMENTS TO THAT.
AND THE OTHER THING I KNOW I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.
IT WAS TOUCHING EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
IN MY MIND, IN THE TRAINING I HAVE CAN BE APPROVED NOW.
ALL RIGHT. BUT MY QUESTION IS WHAT CAN BE APPROVED? WHAT ABOUT MANY TIMES WHEN WE GET INTO PRESENTATIONS, WE DON'T EVEN START BUSINESS UNTIL 730.
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IS THERE AN AREA OF OPPORTUNITY THERE? SO I'D ASK YOU TO LOOK AT THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE HAVE AN EXTRA COMMENT TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THINGS YOU HAVE CHATTED ABOUT THAT WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO, AND THAT COULD WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING.SO WHERE CAN WE SAVE TIME? REDUCING TRANSPARENCY IS NOT THE WAY TO GO, IN MY OPINION.
YEAH. BEFORE YOU ASKED APPROVED ME BEING YOUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER FOR THE NEXT FOUR OR SO MONTHS.
AND SO THAT SAME WEEK WE BROUGHT THEM IN AND ARE ENFORCING THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PERFORM. THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO PERFORM.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE THEIR COMMITMENT TO, TO GO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY NOT A COUNCIL THING AT THIS POINT.
AND SO CHARGE US WITH WITH WORKING WITH THE REPUBLIC TO MAKE THAT RIGHT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN. NEXT SPEAKER.
LAST SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT IS BUTCH.
BUTCH RAND, 219 TRENTON AVENUE HERE IN PALM BAY.
HAPPY NEW YEAR AND ALL THAT STUFF.
I GOT ABOUT THREE ITEMS TO DISCUSS WITH YOU.
AND I KNOW THE NEW GUYS ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON MINTON ROAD SINCE IT'S BEEN REPAVED.
IT'S LIKE A FRICKIN SPEEDWAY OUT THERE.
AND I JUST UNDERSTOOD YOU TO SAY THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO WHO IS? WE HAVE A CONSULTANT.
OKAY. CAN THAT CONSULTANT GO TO MINTON AND JUPITER AND THE DEGROOT LIGHT AND SYNCHRONIZE THOSE THINGS? BECAUSE MINTON GOES GREEN, ALL THE TRAFFIC HEADS WEST.
SO WHERE DOES THAT TRAFFIC END UP? SITTING IN THE INTERSECTION AND BACKED UP ON MINTON.
IF THEY COULD GET THOSE SYNCHRONIZED, EVERYBODY COULD GET HOME.
WELL, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT ALSO, I'D LIKE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE SPEED ZONE CAMERAS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE FUNCTIONAL BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED.
AND I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE IN THE CITY THAT THEY'RE FUNCTIONING.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE RED ZONE CAMERAS, THE ONES THAT WERE JUST DEDICATED TO THIS.
EXACTLY. OKAY, WE COULD DEFINITELY ASK THAT, TOO.
OKAY. AND THE OTHER THING IS, IF COUNCIL IS GOING TO ASK FOR A CHANGE IN AN ORDINANCE, MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THE ORDINANCE WE ALREADY HAVE BEFORE YOU START REQUESTING CHANGES TO ORDINANCES.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. NO.
SO, MR. MORGAN I KNOW THAT WE WERE STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE MINTON ROAD CROSSWALK HERE.
BY WHAT IS IT? ROSES, I GUESS THE WINN-DIXIE SHOPPING CENTER.
DO YOU DO WE HAVE A STATUS UPDATE ON THAT? I DON'T MYSELF, BUT DO WE HAVE A STATUS UPDATE? I THINK OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR CAN PROBABLY GIVE YOU A STATUS UPDATE.
GOOD EVENING MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.
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THE STUDY WAS PERFORMED.BUT IF YOU NOTICE, WE DID UPON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, WE DID PUT UP SIGNAGES IT JUST BEFORE THE CROSSWALK BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT WARRANTED, IT DOESN'T PUT A CITY IN A LIABILITY SPOT.
SO A COUPLE SIGNS WERE ALLOCATED.
JUST TO HELP OUT THE THE PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE CROSSING.
THANK YOU. AND WHAT ABOUT THE MINTON ROAD? DO YOU KNOW THAT THAT TRAFFIC.
THE SYNCHRONIZATION. SYNCHRONIZE.
YEAH. I HEARD THE COMMENT. I MADE A COUPLE NOTES.
I'LL HAVE HIM CHECK IT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ALIGNED.
ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]
OH, I HAVE CARDS FOR SIX, SEVEN AND 11.ANYONE ELSE WISH TO PULL AN ITEM? LOOKING DOWN RANGE.
SEEING. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT FOUR.
WANT TO PULL IT, PLEASE? OKAY. JUST TO DISCUSS IT.
OKAY I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSE PASSES FIVE ZERO.
OKAY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC OR PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE.
[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? YES. MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL.RODRIGUEZ. OH, SORRY, MR. RODRIGUEZ. OKAY.
ORDINANCE 202459 AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.
THIS IS CONTINUED FROM NOVEMBER 21ST, 2024.
DISCUSSION. THAT'S PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE THAT YOU JUST READ THE CAPTION FOR.
OKAY. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THAT AS WELL, MR. MORGAN? NO, THIS IS SECOND READING.
IT IT REALLY IS A RELATIVELY LOW COST ITEM.
IT HAD BEEN AGREED TO IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BACK IN THE BACK IN THE SUMMER.
AND SO THIS IS AN IMPLEMENTING ORDINANCE TO THAT.
BUT IT'S A RELATIVELY LOW DOLLAR ITEM.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL OF STAFF? YEAH. FOR THIS FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU, MADAM CITY ATTORNEY.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. RODRIGUEZ, WHAT WOULD BE THE RAMIFICATIONS IF THIS WERE NOT PASSED? I WOULD HAVE I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER ON THAT.
THAT MATTER? OKAY. I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY, BUT I STAYED AT A.
AND SO THIS DOES FOLLOW FROM YOUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
AND SO YOU ARE REQUIRED TO ADOPT BY ORDINANCE ANYTHING IN YOUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE AGREED TO THAT AFFECTS THE THE PENSION AND MY READING OF THIS ITEM.
AND I HAVE SOME EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA.
I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU YOU APPROVE THE ITEM SUBJECT TO ANY TESTIMONY YOU MIGHT RECEIVE.
BUT IT'S IT'S IT'S IMPLEMENTING SOMETHING YOU'VE ALREADY AGREED TO.
THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY, SO DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. STEP FORWARD.
THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
THIS IS ANOTHER CASE WHERE WE'RE PASSING SOMETHING AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
THE SAME THING WHEN WE CHANGE ZONING OF LAND AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE NOW CHANGING IT.
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WE AGREE WITH IT.WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING THIS IS WHEN THE PUBLIC GETS TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE SAY, WELL, WE'VE ALREADY WE ALREADY AGREED TO IT.
SO WE NOW LEGALLY HAVE TO SAY YES.
BUT THIS IS WHEN THE PUBLIC WAS SUPPOSEDLY BEING INVOLVED IN IT.
I KNOW THIS IS THE SECOND READING OR THE FINAL READING AND I ATTEND THEM ALL, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT THIS THIS IS WHEN THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE HAD THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS AND SAY, WELL, WHY ARE YOU EVEN CONSIDERING NOT APPROVING WHAT WAS AGREED TO IN YOUR IN YOUR AGREEMENT FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? SO THIS IS JUST ONE MORE CASE OF WHERE IT APPEARS.
WELL, WE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS.
NOW WE'RE GOING TO COME AND VOTE ON IT AND MAKE IT LEGAL.
THAT'S JUST THE APPEARANCE OF WHAT HAPPENS AND THAT'S HOW THE PUBLIC SEES IT.
SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
THANK YOU. IF I CAN JUST JUMP IN THERE.
THIS COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL IN OPEN SESSION.
AT SUCH TIME, THE PUBLIC HAD OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.
SO THIS IS TRULY AN IMPLEMENTING ACTION.
AND THAT OPPORTUNITY WAS THERE THIS PAST SUMMER.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SIX MONTHS AGO. OKAY.
I DIDN'T GET AN OPTION TO REVIEW THIS, SO I CAN'T SPEAK ON WHAT YOU KNOW I'M NOT.
MA'AM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS US, COME.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO ADDRESS US, COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY PAULETTE TRAIL FROM 805 DOCKSIDE DRIVE.
MY CONCERN IS I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, BUT I'M NOT INFORMED, SO I CAN'T MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE TABLED SO I CAN RESEARCH IT AND HAVE AN INFORMED OPINION.
SO, MA'AM, THIS HAS BEEN POSTED ON THE ON OUR WEBSITE.
YOU COULD HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK IT OVER.
AT THAT POINT, THIS IS OUR SECOND READING.
WE WE ENCOURAGE THE DIALOG, BUT FOR US TO TABLE IT AT THIS JUNCTURE, THAT THAT THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO DO SINCE THIS IS WE TABLED IT ALREADY ONCE BEFORE SO THAT EVERYONE ON COUNCIL CAN GET UP TO SPEED.
THANK YOU, MA'AM, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING BEFORE US.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, YOU MADE THE MOTION.
SO I WAS THE ONE THAT ASKED TO TABLE THIS ITEM INITIALLY.
SO BUT THAT WAS JUST BECAUSE WE WERE.
AND SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND VOTE TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT.
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? SEEING NONE, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK MR. MORGAN TO PRESENT THE REQUEST.
YES, SIR. THIS IS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE CITY'S CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT, ALSO KNOWN AS CAPER, FOR OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, CDBG PROGRAM FOR FISCAL YEAR 2324.
WE HAVE CLINTON HATCHER, OUR COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
AND IT'S OUR OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM CITIZENS ABOUT OUR PERFORMANCE IN THAT PAST YEAR.
BUT BUT FOR ANY QUESTIONS, WE WOULD ASK OUR CITY DIRECTOR TO INFORM YOU.
WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF? COUNCIL. NO QUESTIONS.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.
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SO MOVED. SECOND.GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.
THIS WAS VOTED ON BY THE BOARD LAST NIGHT.
IT WAS GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE BOARD ALSO LISTENED IN TO OUR MEETING ON TUESDAY.
SO I BELIEVE THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THE THE A HAND UP VERSUS A HANDOUT CONCEPT THAT COUNCIL LET EVERYBODY KNOW IN THE AUDIENCE AND UP HERE ON THE DAIS.
SO I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE BOARD.
WE HAVE RANDALL OLSZEWSKI WHO'S NEW ON THE BOARD, AND WE GOT WE GOT A POWERHOUSE TEAM UP THERE.
THAT'S GOOD. RANDALL SERVING ON THAT BOARD? YES, SIR. DEPUTY MAYOR.
NO COMMENT. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.
WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]
YES. THIS IS A YES CULVERT REPLACEMENT.OKAY. THIS ONE WAS PULLED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
MR. MORGAN, SO I KNOW HE SPECIFICALLY HAD ONE QUESTION, SO PERHAPS WE'LL WE'LL ASK THAT QUESTION.
IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS ONE OF TWO COLLAPSE THAT WE HAD DURING THE STORM EVENTS.
THE STORM? WE INSTALLED TWO 60 INCH RUNS IN, IN HOUSE WITH THE THE HELP OF STAFF AND WITH THE CONDITION WITH THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN DISTRICT TO COME BACK WITH THE PERMANENT INSTALLATION OF THE CONCRETE CULVERT.
AND THIS IS WHAT THAT ITEM IS, SIR.
COUNCILMAN HAMMER. MY QUESTION IS, IS THIS SOMETHING STAFF CAN'T DO? A CONCRETE CULVERT.
YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY.
THINKING BACK AT THE LAST ONE THAT WE DID OVER BY WALDEN, NOT WELDON.
YEAH. IF YOU CAN IMAGINE NINE BY SIX CONCRETE CULVERTS COMING ON TRUCKS FLYING ON CRANES. THE EXPERTISE I DON'T HAVE THAT IN HOUSE WITH THE AND EVEN AND EVEN WITH THE WARRANTY WORK THAT COMES ALONG WITH THE TRYING TO TAKE A TASK LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE GETTING TO THE PIPES THAT WE CAN INSTALL AS BIG AS 60 INCH.
WE JUST DID THE ONE BY BELVEDERE.
SO I'M TRYING TO GET TO THOSE THAT ARE UNDER LIKE A $250,000 VALUE.
BUT I'VE ELEVATED THAT QUESTION TO SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GO.
BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FLY THOSE CONCRETE CULVERTS IN PLACE.
WELL, I WILL SAY THIS I, I ACTUALLY STARTED OFF AS THE PEOPLE THAT PUT IN THOSE PIPES, AND, I MEAN, WE EVEN BUILT THE BRIDGE THAT'S THAT'S OUT ON HARPER, I BELIEVE. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR UNDERTAKING.
AND IT'S SOMETHING WE DID IN HOUSE.
I, I UNDERSTAND IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT ANYMORE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO INDULGE OUR, OUR, OUR CITY MANAGER AND OUR STAFF TO GET US BACK THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.
AND THEN, I MEAN, WE EVEN HAD A PAVER BOX.
WE COULD PAVE THAT UNTIL WE GOT BACK TO IT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO START PUSHING OURSELVES BACK FOR BECAUSE 460,000 PLUS FOR A JOB THAT WE CAN DO IN HOUSE AND WE SHOULD BE DOING IN HOUSE, I THINK SHOULD BE ASCERTAINED.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT TO ASK, IS THAT LIKE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD NEED TO BE PURCHASED OR BECAUSE HE'S HE'S TALKING ABOUT MAYBE WE COULD TAKE IN SOME OF THESE THINGS OURSELVES.
IS THERE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT THAT THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE? WELL, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE A VISUAL.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF THE DELIVERIES ON THESE NINE BY SIX STRUCTURES.
OKAY. AND TO MR. COUNCILMAN HAMMER'S POINT, I'M NOT PRIVY TO THE PAST EXPERIENCE OF STAFF HERE, BUT I DO HAVE A, A STAFF THAT WE DO HAVE LIKE COUNCILMAN HAMMER SAID, EXPERTS. BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW STAFF THAT ARE GETTING TRAINED.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T FAIL.
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SO THAT THAT THAT'S THOSE COMMENTS ARE VERY WELL ACCEPTED BY AT LEAST.YEAH. MINE WASN'T A YES OR NO.
IT WAS JUST A IT WAS JUST A QUESTION AND A POINT.
I THINK WE HAVE EXTREMELY VALUABLE PEOPLE BACK THERE.
WE HAVE A VALUABLE STAFF THAT THAT I KNOW HAS THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
THAT'S COOL. LET'S JUST MAKE YOU KNOW, MAKE SOME EFFORT TO GIVE OUR GUYS THE CHANCE TO DO IT.
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS TO COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
SECOND. GOT A GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.
YES, MAYOR. MEMBER CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE TO COME TO THE COUNCIL WITH.
BUT GABRIEL BOWEN, OUR UTILITIES DIRECTOR, COULD COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THIS PRETTY WELL WHO PULLED THIS ITEM? BILL BENTON OKAY.
MR. BENTON, PLEASE STEP FORWARD.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WE'RE LOOKING AT $1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROJECT IS.
WITHOUT THESE WATER METERS, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GENERATE ANY REVENUE.
WE HAVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH WATER IS BEING USED.
WHAT I HAVE THE CONFLICT WITH THIS IS COMING OUT OF THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT.
WE'RE REQUESTING 1.5 MILLION TO BUY METERS.
YET WE'RE GOING TO WRITE OFF FOR SEPTIC TO SEWER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WATER AVAILABLE.
WE'RE GOING TO WRITE THAT FUNDING SOURCE OFF.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
YET THE CITY THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT JUST LOST WILL LOSE THAT MONEY.
SO IT'S JUST A CONFLICT OF OF FUND, OF FUNDING SOURCES WHERE YOU'RE GIVING SOMETHING AWAY TO INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HOOK UP WHEN THEY HAD IT AVAILABLE.
WE'D LOST THAT IMPACT FEE COMING TO THE CITY.
NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE TO FACE $1.5 MILLION ANNUALLY THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR, AND IT'LL BE THE SAME UTILITY USERS THAT HAVE TO PAY FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN. NOW.
SO THIS IS EXISTING HOMEOWNERS.
AND THE METER IS OLD AND WORN OUT.
AND THIS IS JUST GOOD MAINTENANCE.
AND ONCE A CITY SELECTS YOUR METER PROVIDER YOU DON'T CHANGE THAT.
THERE'S A INTEGRATED METER READING SYSTEM.
AND BUT FOR THE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE AUTHORITY AND THE SOLE SOURCE, THIS WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE MATTER. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S TO THE COUNCIL.
AND THAT HELPS THE HOMEOWNER BECAUSE A NEW METER WILL READ MORE ACCURATELY.
SO THIS IS JUST NORMAL ACTIVITY OF A OF A WATER DIVISION AND WOULD GIVE BIG BONES HERE TO ANSWER ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT REALLY HASN'T ANYTHING TO DO WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I NEED A MOTION. I HAVE A QUESTION.
OKAY. FOR THE UTILITY DIRECTOR IT LOOKS LIKE ON AVERAGE, 2800M ARE ORDERED.
2000 REGISTERS ARE PURCHASED ANNUALLY.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN IT SAYS AN AVERAGE OF 18 REGISTERS ARE PURCHASED ANNUALLY VIA THE WARRANTY PROGRAM? AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS THESE ARE ALL PURCHASED FOR INVENTORY FOR FUTURE YEARS.
LIKE SO HOW ARE THESE STORED CONTROLLED THEFT LOSS DAMAGE AND TIME VALUE OF MONEY BEING PURCHASED NOW INSTEAD OF IN AN ACCOUNT ACCRUING INTEREST? I DIDN'T WRITE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS DOWN, SO IF I MISS SOMETHING, PLEASE HELP ME.
SO THE 1800 THAT ARE PURCHASED ON WARRANTY, DEPENDING ON HOW OLD THE METER IS WHEN IT DIES IF IT'S TEN YEARS OLD, WE GET ABOUT 50%. IF IT'S 18 YEARS OLD, WE DON'T GET ANYTHING.
SO DEPENDING ON WHERE IT'S AT IN ITS LIFE.
AND THEN STORED IN A WAREHOUSE.
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YEAH. LIKE, I MEAN, YEAH, THE MINIMUM ORDER THAT'S REQUIRED AND WHERE ALL THESE STORED AND PROTECTED.YEAH. WE HAVE A WAREHOUSE AT OUR NORTH REGIONAL WATER AND WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY, AND THEY'RE STORED INDOORS UNDER LOCK AND KEY. IS THERE A BENEFIT OF, YOU KNOW, LIFO, FIFO, BUYING THEM NOW AND USING THEM LATER OR BUYING THEM FROM THE SUPPLIER AS, AS WE NECESSARILY NEED THEM? A GREAT QUESTION. AND BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, YOU'D WANT TO HAVE A HIGH INVENTORY TURN.
YOU DON'T RUN OUT. YOU'VE GOT A BUSTED METER.
NOW YOU'RE STRAIGHT PIPING THEM, AND YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO ACCURATELY READ THEIR METER.
SO WE LIKE TO HAVE A LARGE A DECENT INVENTORY TO CARRY US FOR QUITE A WHILE.
NOW, THOSE METERS ARE ACTUALLY CONTROLLED BY THE INVENTORY CONTROL COORDINATOR AS WELL.
RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S TRUE.
YES. SO YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT HAS ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ALL THESE.
IT'S YOU KNOW, WHERE EVERY SINGLE YOU HAVE A COORDINATOR THAT'S OVER THESE THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE MAINTENANCE BUT THE ISSUING THEM OUT AND ALL OF THAT. YES SIR. THANK YOU SIR.
OKAY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE QUESTIONS? OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.
BATTEN. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD READ THE TITLE, IT SAYS RESOLUTION, SO I'LL READ IT.
THIS IS RESOLUTION 2024, DASH 46, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ELECTING TO NOT EXEMPT CERTAIN PROPERTY UNDER SECTION 196 .197830 FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
THANK YOU. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
WHEN YOU'RE ASKING ME TO INCREASE MY TAXES.
I LOOK AT THAT ONE MORE TIME AS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
RIGHT. NEXT ITEM ON THIS ONE WAS WITH THE LIVE LOCAL FOR SENATE BILL 102, BECAUSE THAT'S IT INCLUDES COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND PUDS FOR ANY DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN IS WILLING TO PROMOTE 40% OF THEIR ESTABLISHMENT.
AND IT WAS FAST TRACKING THOSE IDENTITIES.
MY FEAR IS BECAUSE OF THIS BILL, THAT WE WOULD HAVE DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THE ONE COMING IN ON GAVI, WHERE THEY TOOK ALL THAT COMMERCIAL LAND AND WANTED TO MAKE IT INTO AN INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THEY SAID, WELL, LUCKILY YOU SAID NO TO THE TO THE CHANGING OF THE LAND USE, WHICH WAS A GOOD THING, BUT THAT TRYING TO BRING IT BACK NOW WITH THE WE'RE GOING TO GIVE 15 ACRES OUT OF THE 400 FOR COMMERCIAL.
WELL, I'M AFRAID THAT THIS LIVE LOCAL ACT THAT THEY MIGHT GET AWAY WITH THAT.
THE OTHER THING WHERE I SEE PROBLEMS WITH THIS ONE IS THE CONFLICT WITH HOUSE BILL 1365 THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE LIVE LOCAL WHERE YOU'RE PROMOTING THE GROWTH FOR LOW INCOME, BUT THEN OR MODERATE INCOME.
AND NOW YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL LAWSUIT COMING BACK IN BECAUSE YOU DENIED IT FOR SOMEBODY.
YEAH, WE HAVE THE TWO TWO STATE MANDATES.
THEY'RE FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND WE'RE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE.
ANY COMMENTS, MR. MORGAN? NO, SIR.
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN? YEAH. SO I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE THIS RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA.
I'M EXCITED TO VOTE FOR IT TONIGHT.
THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, AND I THINK WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IT IN DEPTH HERE.
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A SOCIALIST HOUSING SCHEME IN OUR STATE.BUT THIS IS ONE SMALL WIN THAT WE CAN GET AS A LOCAL MUNICIPALITY.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE.
BATON. BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS WITH THIS.
FIRST, WILL THE STATE WILL THE STORAGE UNITS AND SHELVING BE USED IN ANOTHER TIME AND ANOTHER LOCATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY $58,000, BUT THOSE UNITS COULD BE USED SOMEPLACE ELSE IF WE STILL HAVE THEM AVAILABLE.
SO ARE WE GOING TO REVAMP THEM AFTER WE GET THE ROOF REPAIRED? THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
SECOND QUESTION WAS THERE ANY MAJOR YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS FOR LEGALITY REASONS.
WAS THERE ANY MAJOR CASE WHERE THE EVIDENCE GOT DAMAGED THAT'S GOING TO HINDER SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN THE LEGAL SIDE OF THESE CASES? ARE WE ARE WE GOING TO GET ANOTHER BLACK EYE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY ON HOW WE CONDUCT BUSINESS BECAUSE OF A LEAKY ROOF.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MORGAN. YES, SIR.
POLICE CHIEF CAN ANSWER THOSE.
WELL, I CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION.
THE SECOND QUESTION? YES, YES, YES.
GOOD EVENING. SO THE FIRST QUESTION IF MR. BATTEN IS REFERRING TO.
THE CONEX BOXES THEMSELVES TO BE REUSED OR RENTALS, SO WE WOULDN'T BE REUSING THOSE.
BUT THE SHELVING, THAT'S PART OF THE THE CONSENT ITEM AND THE BOXES.
YES, ABSOLUTELY. THE BOXES WILL MAINTAIN THE USAGE BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE IS GOING TO REMAIN IN THERE.
AND THE SHELVING AS WELL WILL BE USED THROUGHOUT OUR CURRENT EXISTING ONCE THE ROOF IS REPAIRED WITH OUR WITHIN HEADQUARTERS AND OUR WAREHOUSE, AND ALSO WITH SOME CONEX BOXES AND STORAGE AREAS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR TRAINING CENTER.
WITH REGARDS TO THE SECOND QUESTION.
IT'S UNKNOWN. WE HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO WE'RE NOT HIGHLY CONCERNED WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
SO WHICH WHICH IS A HUGE MATTER FOR ALL TRANSPARENCY AND TO BE STATE RECOGNIZED 15 YEARS IN A ROW.
SO YES SIR THAT THAT WOULD BE AT RISK.
SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
YES, SIR. YEAH I HAVE A QUESTION.
THE ROOF WAS REPLACED RECENTLY AT THE POLICE STATION.
IS THIS A PART OF THE ROOF THAT WAS REPLACED OR THE ROOF WAS REPLACED? WAS DAMAGED. WAS AFTER THE ROOF WAS REPLACED BEFORE AND AFTER, BUT YES, AFTER.
MORE SO AFTER. I KNOW THEY STARTED WORKING ON IT TODAY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WITH SOME REPAIRS.
A CONTRACTOR CAME IN SEASON WHERE SOME ISSUES WERE MADE WITH THE ACTUAL ROOFING COMPANY.
SO, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO COMPLETELY FIX THE PROBLEM.
WHAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE CONTRACTOR AS FAR AS THEIR GENERAL LIABILITY AND BACK CHARGING THEM FOR THE COST OF THIS? I COULDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I APOLOGIZE, MAYBE MR. BARBER COULD. GOOD. YEAH.
BUT RIGHT ALONG THAT THAT SAME VEIN, DEPUTY MAYOR, WE HAVE AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO START LOOKING IN THE HORIZON BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE DOING A LOT WITH LESS.
SO YEAH, THE REPAIR ASPECTS OF IT AND I'M SURE THE, THE I PERSONALLY WENT THROUGH THIS RECENTLY IN MY PERSONAL OFFICE BUILDING, REPAIRED THE BUILDING, GOT FLOODED, THE CONTRACTOR PAID FOR ALL THE DAMAGE UNDERNEATH.
I THINK WE CAN GET AN ANSWER WHERE WE ARE WITH RESPECT TO THE ROOFING COMPANY.
SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
WE ISSUED A CURE NOTICE SO THAT THEY CAN EXCUSE ME SO THAT THEY CAN FIX THE PROBLEM.
SO I THINK PARKS AND FACILITIES CAN SPEAK TO IT AS FAR AS WHAT WAS IN THAT PLAN.
BUT WE DID HAVE A MEETING SO THEY CAN RECTIFY IT.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? I THINK HE WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON STEVE.
WE HAVE 100% PERFORMANCE BOND.
WHETHER WE GO BACK OR NOT WITH THIS, I'M NOT SURE WE ARE HOLDING $103,000 ON THIS JOB ALSO.
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YOU SAY THAT AGAIN.SO WE'RE ALSO HOLDING $103,000 ON THIS JOB, PLUS RETAINAGE UNTIL THE WORK IS COMPLETE.
THAT DETERMINATION WILL BE MADE LATER.
WILL BE EXECUTED BEFORE THE COMICS ARE DELIVERED.
BUT THE TIMING MAY NOT LINE UP.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I APOLOGIZE. NO, YOU DID WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE CHIEF, GENTLEMEN? NO. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU, SIR. I NEED A MOTION.
SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO WE'RE NOW ON UNFINISHED OLD BUSINESS.
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DEPUTY MAYOR, APPOINTMENT OF TWO MEMBERS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD.OKAY, I NEED. WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO APPOINT MY OWN AS WELL.
BUT AFTER THIS MOTION, I'LL TAKE IT.
WELL, I THINK THE TWO APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE ARE FOR THE AT LARGE.
BUT WE FIGURED WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE.
AND MAYOR, I ALSO HAD A APPOINTMENT FOR THIS BOARD.
I'M HERE TO TO APPOINT LES ROACH.
OKAY. TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD.
GENTLEMEN, I HAVE I HAVE A REAPPOINTMENT OF TOM GAUM TO REPRESENT.
OKAY, SO WE GOT ALL OUR APPOINTMENTS IN, AND NOW WE GOT TWO AT LARGE.
I NEED A MOTION FOR THE TWO AT LARGE.
I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO WE'VE GOT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY BOARD IN TOWN.
ALRIGHT. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
[NEW BUSINESS:]
MR. MORGAN.YES. THIS IS DISCUSSION AND DIRECTION ON THE CITY'S COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.
AT YOUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF PROPOSALS UNDER THE CURRENT PROGRAM THAT THE COUNCIL DETERMINED NOT TO PROCEED ON.
AND STAFF REALLY NEEDS POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AS TO WE HAVE SOME IN THE QUEUE, BUT WE NEED CLEAR POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A CLEAR STATEMENT OF POLICY.
SO MY QUESTION IS WE HAVE WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAVE EIGHT IN THE QUEUE THOSE EIGHT HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETTED AND THEY'VE PROVIDED THEIR INFORMATION, MEANING THEIR APPLICATION AND ESTIMATES AND ALL OF THAT OR THE EIGHT AND THE Q HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH ANY PROCESS YET. I CAN'T ANSWER THAT DIRECTLY, SIR.
GOOD EVENING. SO THE A AND Q ARE.
YES, THOSE COMPANIES HAVE DONE THEIR APPLICATIONS.
THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THE THREE PROPOSALS FROM THE CONTRACTORS THAT ARE LOOKING TO DO THE WORK.
AND THEN OUR STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH ANOTHER DUE DILIGENCE OF REVIEWING THEIR APPLICATIONS AND LOOKING AT THE PROPOSALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO GET THE WORK DONE. SO YES.
THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS, DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, MAYOR. OKAY, SO, COUNCILOR, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TWO APPLICANTS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, LAST, LAST MEETING, AND WE DENIED IT AFTER THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS COUNCIL AND I UNDERSTAND YOU GUYS WEREN'T PART OF THIS, RIGHT? BUT WHAT WE DID TO THAT OTHER COMPANY WAS WE SENT THEM BACK, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK AND WE REGROUPED AND CAME AGAIN. SO, GENTLEMEN, I UNDERSTAND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM.
I GET THAT, BUT THE ISSUE IS WE HAVE THE PROGRAM AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY APPLIED, AND NOW WE'VE GOT EIGHT. SO THE OPTION IS DO AWAY WITH IT, EVEN THOUGH WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE OFFERED THIS PROGRAM TO THE PEOPLE OR WE JUST CANCEL IT AND TELL THEM, NO, WE HAD A CHANGE OF HEART.
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EITHER WAY, I'LL BE GOOD WITH WITH IT.I JUST FEEL THAT IT'S OUR WORD.
WE PUT OUR WORD ON THIS PROGRAM, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW WE.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS WE WE CONTINUE WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AND AND THEN JUST ANY FUTURE THAT WOULDN'T BE ANY FUTURE. WE GIVE STAFF DIRECTION.
BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT I DIDN'T GET THE VOTES THE LAST TIME.
MY CONCERN IS WE GAVE INDIVIDUALS OUR WORD AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD STAND ON THAT.
BUT AGAIN, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS CAN DISCUSS THIS AND SEE WHERE YOU WHERE YOU FALL.
I'LL START WITH YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
WAIT. PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT'S NOT. I'LL START WITH YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.
I SHARE THE SENTIMENT WITH YOU, MAYOR.
I, I VOTED FOR IT JUST BECAUSE THE PROGRAM WAS IN PLACE.
THE APPLICANT MADE THE APPLICATION.
STAFF DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
I'M OKAY. WHETHER THE PROGRAM CONTINUES TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. I, I LOOK AT IT DIFFERENTLY.
IN MY EYES, WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE CREATED TWO GRANT FUNDING PROGRAMS OUT OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, THIS BEING ONE, AND THEN THE SPECIAL EVENTS BEING ANOTHER.
I PERSONALLY FEEL THE 50,000 COULD BE BETTER USED WITH COMMUNITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER THAT'S SENDING THEM TO SILICON, SILICON VALLEY OR SOMETHING OF THE OTHER SORT, BUT WITH JUST PAYING FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S SIGNAGE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
I'VE BEST BUSINESS COACH, BUSINESS COACHING OR SOMETHING OF THAT SENSE LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT, WE VENTURE THAT I FEEL WILL BE OF MORE USE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE GREAT SERVICES, BUT PROBABLY NOT THE BEST ON, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS MANAGEMENT.
SO I FEEL THAT CAN HELP, ESPECIALLY IF THEY LEARN HOW TO MARKET THEMSELVES.
THAT CAN HELP TREMENDOUSLY WITH THEIR THEIR REVENUES.
SO THEN THEY CAN PUT UP THE SIGNAGE THEMSELVES.
CONTINUING ON WITH THIS, I INITIALLY DID, BUT JUST WATCHING IT OVER TIME I LOST THE TASTE FOR IT.
MAYOR. OKAY, COUNCILMAN HAMMER, ME MYSELF.
IF I NEED MY DRIVEWAY DONE, I DON'T THINK THE CITY IS GOING TO COME AND HELP ME WITH IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES OUT THERE.
IF THEY WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY, THEY BEAUTIFY THEIR OWN PLACE.
WE'RE NOT PAYING THEM THE MONEY FOR IT.
3 OR 4 NEW BUSINESSES CAME ON PALM BAY ROAD AND THEY PAID FOR ALL THEIR OWN STUFF.
I WOULD LIKE TO FIELD AN OPTION ON THIS WHERE WE PROVIDE THIS TO A NEW BUSINESS THAT IS COMING IN.
AS A PERK TO COMING IN HERE, I SEE THAT.
I UNDERSTAND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE PUTTING OUR MONEY BACK INTO THE THINGS WE'RE TAXING PEOPLE FOR.
YEAH. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS EXACTLY HOW IT IS.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A FREE MARKET CAPITALIST PERSPECTIVE.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BAILOUT OR STIMULUS.
AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESS OWNERS ON THIS COUNCIL.
I THINK WE HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AUDIENCE.
IF YOU WORK REALLY HARD AND YOU PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE AND YOU SPEND THE MONEY TO BEAUTIFY YOUR OWN PLACE AND MAKE IT LOOK IN A WAY THAT YOU THINK WOULD ATTRACT THE MOST CLIENTS TO DO BUSINESS, AND ONE OF YOUR COMPETITORS DOWN THE ROAD ISN'T PROVIDING THE BEST SERVICE OR JUST ISN'T UP TO PAR WITH YOU.
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THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE'RE SAYING, WELL, THESE OTHER PEOPLE, EITHER THROUGH IT COULD BE VARIOUS REASONS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM MONEY OUT OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND IRONICALLY, MONEY THAT THEIR COMPETITOR THAT DID EVERYTHING RIGHT PUT INTO THE SYSTEM.THAT'S NOT FREE MARKET ECONOMICS.
SO I MEAN, THIS IS JUST TO ME, IT'S A IT'S A TERRIBLE SYSTEM.
AND IT DEFINITELY GOES AGAINST THE FREE MARKET ECONOMICS PRINCIPLE.
BUT ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.
OKAY, SO I GUESS THE DIRECTION IS CLEAR.
THE PROGRAM IS NOW ELIMINATED.
DID YOU NEED A MOTION TO REQUEST THE MOTION? OKAY, SO I'LL NEED A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO DO WE DO TWO MOTIONS? ONE FOR THE FOR THE EIGHT APPLICANTS AND ONE FOR THE PROGRAM? OR ARE WE JUST DOING ONE MOTION? YOU JUST THE PROGRAM.
ALL RIGHT, I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TO DISSOLVE THE PROGRAM.
SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ALL OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.
DID YOU VOTE AYE OR NAY? OKAY. PASSES FOUR ONE.
WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
YES, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
WHEN YOU ASKED, AND I GLADLY ACCEPTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE YOUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WE WE BOTH UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS FOR A LIMITED TIME. AND SO JOB ONE IS FOR US TO GET GOING ON A RECRUITMENT OF YOUR NEXT CITY MANAGER, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO ASSIST THE COUNCIL IN THAT. I LAY OUT A SUMMARY OF WHAT I THINK MIGHT MOST LIKELY BE BENEFICIAL TO US.
THE THERE ARE SOME BULLET POINTS IN THERE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEEK.
OBVIOUSLY CANDIDATES WON'T HAVE ALL THOSE ATTRIBUTES THAT WE WOULD SEEK, BUT.
I THINK THIS WOULD BE GOOD IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT I MISSED OR THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE.
BUT IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU HAVE A MOTION THAT WOULD GET US STARTED ON THAT RECRUITMENT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS FROM WHAT YOU SEE.
NO QUESTIONS MAYOR I'M JUST KUDOS.
HONESTLY, THAT'S THAT'S THE MAIN THING.
HOW HOW THOROUGH IT IS FROM DATES TO EVERYTHING I SEE.
WE'LL HAVE OUR SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING SATURDAY.
BEING THAT IT'S SUCH A THIS IS SUCH AN INVESTMENT, THIS IS BIGGER THAN ANY ANYTHING, HONESTLY.
OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? I'M THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED.
AND. AND THE JOB MR. MORGAN'S DONE WITH HIS HIS LAYOUT OF A SCHEDULE, A DIRECTION, A GOAL.
BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET.
SOUTHWEST. FIRST, I WAS VERY GOOD PLAN.
I LIKED SEEING THAT. I'M ALWAYS LIKE SEEING A PLAN OF ACTION.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS WAS.
HERE'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. HERE'S OUR GUIDELINES.
HERE'S OUR DATES. BUT DID I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION WITH THAT ONE.
WAS THERE ANYTHING IN THERE THAT YOU THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE FOR THIS PLAN OF ACTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER? BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF YOU WERE GETTING ONE ON ONE WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO SEE IF YOU'RE GIVING HIM YOUR INPUT OF WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AND WHAT YOU WANTED WITH THE NEW ONCOMING, THE PERSON THAT HE'S TRYING TO HIRE.
NOW I KNOW WHAT CITY MANAGER THE CITY MANAGER IS LOOKING FOR IN FOR HIS REPLACEMENT.
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT HE WAS ASKING FOR.
THERE WAS JUST ANY. ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM YOU? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
I'LL HOLD THAT FOR OUR DISCUSSION.
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I PASS. THANK YOU.THAT'S ON THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
OH, SO IT'S NOT FOR ROUND FIVE? YES, SIR. WE'RE ON FIVE.
OKAY, SO THAT'S FOR NUMBER NINE.
YEAH. OKAY, SO THAT'S NUMBER NINE.
DAVID MCCALLUM, 1663 GEORGIA STREET NORTHEAST.
I'VE BEEN OVER HERE OVER 40 YEARS.
NONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE OVER HERE NOW ARE HERE.
MOST OF THE PEOPLE ARE SO NEW, THEY DON'T REMEMBER SO MUCH STUFF.
AND CITY OF PALM BAY IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL CITY IN AMERICA IS A GENERAL DEVELOPMENT CREATION.
YOU NEED A CITY MANAGER THAT UNDERSTANDS HOW THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF A COMMUNITIES NEED TO BE MANAGED. YOU DON'T NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL INTERVIEWING A BUNCH OF PEOPLE.
I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF GOOD RESOURCES AS A MAJOR SHAREHOLDER IN THE CITY, HOW THE CITY IS MANAGED AS COUNCILMAN KEN JOHNSON MENTIONED IT, WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF, BUT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MATTER.
PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT BECAUSE POLITICIANS AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, WE DO ALL RESPECT, YOU KNOW, YOU SET THE GUIDELINES, BUT DAY TO DAY AND HOW TO MANAGE AND HOW THEY CAN THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX IN A CITY LIKE PALM BAY THAT WE HAVE VERY SHORT RESOURCES OF FUNDS, YOU NEED SOMEBODY REALLY CAPABLE.
HE WAS REALLY GOOD FOR SETTING UP THINGS, GETTING THINGS DONE.
HE WAS THE BEST CITY MANAGER I'VE SEEN, AND I'VE SEEN HIM SINCE RICHARD DIAMOND BACK IN THE 80S.
HE PROBABLY CAN FIND YOU A GOOD CITY MANAGER.
THE SECOND ONE, GREG LINKS IS HERE.
I WAS VERY I WAS NOT SURE ABOUT HIM, BUT HE IS VERY HARD WORKER.
HE KNOWS THE LAY OF THE LAND AND HE CAN BE.
WHATEVER. IF IF THE CITY MANAGER DOES GOOD, HE DOES ME A LOT OF GOOD.
HE DOES. ALL OF US A LOT OF GOOD.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
IF YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, I CAN PUT YOU UP WITH LEE FELDMAN FOR CONSULTATION.
OTHERWISE, THE GREG LINKS IS VERY GOOD.
YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB IN PUTTING ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER.
WHAT I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IS THAT VISIONARY, RIGHT? THE THE THE IDEAL CANDIDATE WOULD BE A STRONG LEADER WHILE STILL BEING APPROACHABLE, FAIR AND CONSISTENT.
AND PART OF THAT IN, IN MY EYES, IS A BUILDER OF A MOLDER OF HIS TEAM AND AND COLLABORATION.
I BELIEVE THAT WE I, I LOVED HOW YOU SAID THE IDEAL CANDIDATE WILL BE SELF-CONFIDENT, BUT NOT EGOCENTRIC OR COCKY.
I, I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WHEN I READ THAT I BECAUSE THAT'S A DIFFERENT BALANCE. CORRECT.
AND AND I KIND OF ENJOYED THAT.
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INTO THEIR TEAM, SOMEONE THAT CAN LITERALLY CULTIVATE THAT LEADERSHIP AND, AND BUILD THAT SUCCESSION PLAN THAT WE SO NEED IN THIS CITY.SO I'LL, I'LL YIELD TO THE REST OF MY TIME TO COUNCIL.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I SEE IN, IN IN OUTSTANDING LEADER AS WELL.
CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
OKAY. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.
YOU HIT IT RIGHT OUT OF THE PARK ALREADY.
THE ONLY OTHER PERSON WHO HIT IT OUT OF THE PARK LIKE THAT IS GEORGE BARBER.
BUT ANYWAY, SO ONLY BECAUSE HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER.
ALL RIGHT. BUT ANYWAY, SO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
YEAH. A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER.
HE WAS A PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL PLAYER FOR ANYBODY WHO DIDN'T KNOW.
BUT TO MR. BATTEN'S POINT, I THINK HE'LL GET COUNCILS FEEDBACK THAT SATURDAY WHEN WE INTERVIEW EVERYBODY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN EACH PERSON THAT WE'RE INTERVIEWING IS AT LEAST AN HOUR.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHEN WE'LL REALLY GET INTO THE WEEDS.
OKAY. ANYONE ELSE? I WOULD SAY WE DID HAVE A MEETING, AND EACH ONE OF US ACTUALLY GOT A CHANCE TO SAY HOW WE FELT AND WHO WE WANTED TO SEE MOVING FORWARD. I DO REMEMBER I SPECIFICALLY SAID A LIST OF, I WOULD SAY, TRAITS THAT I WANTED TO SEE IN MY NEXT CITY MANAGER, AND IT WAS DISCUSSED.
I WILL SAY I, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS OF OUR CITY. THIS IS THIS IS THE STEPPING STONE TO A PATHWAY FORWARD.
I'M. I'M TIRED OF PALM BAY TREADING WATER, DOING WHAT WE CAN TO SURVIVE.
AND I THINK WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO ADVANCE MORE THAN ANY CITY AROUND US.
AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT OF OF OUR CITY AND OUR STAFF LIKE A BASEBALL TEAM.
I WANT SOMEBODY THAT CAN HIT HOME RUNS.
I DON'T WANT THE NICEST PERSON.
I DON'T WANT THE PERSON THAT DRESSES THE BEST.
I WANT SOMEBODY THAT CAN GET UP THERE AND PERFORM.
AND I THINK MR. MORGAN'S GIVEN US A PRETTY GOOD OUTLINE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HE'S LOOKING FOR THAT REFLECT HOW I FEEL.
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY BASEBALL ANALOGIES, BUT BUT.
YEAH, JUST SINCE YOU BRING UP BASEBALL, DID YOU EVER PLAY? I DID, YEAH.
I DIDN'T PLAY BASKETBALL, ACTUALLY.
THAT'S WHAT I NORMALLY GET ASKED ABOUT.
NO, BUT JUST TO ANSWER MR. BATMAN, YOU KNOW, REAL QUICKLY AND TO ECHO THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD THE WORKSHOP WHERE WE PUBLICLY SAID WHAT WE WANTED, BUT WE HAVE I HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AT LEAST I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF WITH, WITH CITY MANAGER.
YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS ON BOARD WITH HIRING MR. MORGAN MOSTLY DUE TO, YOU KNOW, HIS EXPERIENCE ON FINDING HIS REPLACEMENT IN WEST MELBOURNE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS AND VERY CONFIDENT IN HIS PLAN THAT AND, YOU KNOW, TO MR. MILNE'S POINT, YOU KNOW, MR. MILNE, THE COMMUNITY MAJOR STAKEHOLDER, AND HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE HAVE A VERY, VERY UNIQUE COMMUNITY, VERY, VERY UNIQUE COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COMMUNITY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.
YES. JUST I NEGLECTED TO SAY THIS, BUT IN ADDITION TO MY ONE ON ONES WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT SOMEBODY THAT'S A TEAM BUILDER.
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THANK YOU. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.THE LEAGUE DOES RECOMMEND THAT ONLY ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL ATTEND.
YES, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE FOR THIS.
I THINK HE'D BE A GREAT SPOKESMAN FOR OUR CITY.
WE GOOD? WE ALL GOOD ON THAT ONE.
WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT.
NO, NO, HE'S HE'S GOING TO BE FINE.
WE DON'T NEED A MOTION. BUT YOU'VE BEEN NOMINATED TO TAKE THAT TRIP.
YEAH. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT BATTLE ON.
CALL MY WIFE FOR ME, PLEASE. YES, I WILL, I WILL, I WILL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
THANK YOU. SO DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE WILL BE ATTENDING.
BEFORE WE GO ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
YOU SAW IT IN THE LIGHT WITH THE KIDS? YEAH. BACK TO THE END.
DONE THAT NOW ALSO. IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT NOW.
ONE, TWO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? SOMEONE WRONG.
OKAY, WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
YES. I CAN EITHER GIVE A PRESENTATION FIRST OR TAKE.
I'M SURE THERE'S PROBABLY SOME SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS, BUT WHAT'S YOUR PREFERENCE, MAYOR? WELL, YOU PRESENT THE ITEM AND THEN.
OKAY. THAT'S GREAT. SO? SO JUST AS AN OBSERVATION, AND I KNOW THAT PALM BAY IS CERTAINLY ENTITLED TO ALWAYS DO IT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE OTHER PEOPLE.
BUT HAVING WORKED FOR FOUR CITIES WITH VARIOUS COUNCILS AND IN A COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SORT OF THE EQUIVALENT OF COUNTY COMMISSIONS, SORT OF OBSERVED SOME THINGS OVER MY YEARS, AND THIS IS NOT NORMALLY SOMETHING I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON, BUT I'M HERE FOR A PRETTY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
AND SO I THOUGHT I WOULD PROVIDE YOU WITH MY ADVICE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAYBE CONSIDER SHORTENING OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
AND IT JUST GETS WORSE AS AS THE HOURS GET LONGER.
BUT THE, THE GOALS WOULD BE TO REALLY TRY TO STRENGTHEN THE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS DECISION MAKING, BECAUSE WE'RE A LITTLE FRESHER WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND HOPEFULLY TO TRY TO REDUCE THE LENGTH OF OUR MEETINGS WHEN YOU DO MAKE THESE IMPORTANT DECISIONS ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS YOU SERVE, YOU ARE THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY NEED TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THEIR INPUT.
AND BECAUSE THAT'S THE BASIC PART OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT DEMOCRACY, BUT YOU ARE THEIR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES AND HAVE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ON, ON BEHALF OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
SO I KIND OF LOOKED AT, AT THAT ISSUE WITH RESPECT TO YOUR ADOPTED CITY COUNCIL MEETING, RULES OF ORDER. AND SO IT'S KIND OF THREE THINGS THAT ADDRESS THOSE TWO GOALS.
THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE THAT AT THAT SAME MEETING, THE COUNCIL WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACT ON AN ITEM THAT DIDN'T APPEAR AS PART OF WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO ACT UPON IF IT WASN'T THERE 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
NOW, OBVIOUSLY, UNDER COUNCIL REPORTS, THE COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED TO BRING A MATTER AT A FUTURE MEETING AS SOON AS THE VERY NEXT MEETING. BUT IT IT WOULD PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO REVIEW AN ITEM AND NOT BE SURPRISED AT SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP WITHIN THE LAST 48 HOURS.
THE SECOND PART IS THE CITIZEN CARD SYSTEM.
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IT'S A BIT UNUSUAL TO HAVE CITIZENS DIRECT ABILITY TO PULL ITEMS OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA.I'D BE INTERESTED IN PULLING WHATEVER THE ITEMS THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.
BUT THEN THE COUNCIL WOULD GET TO MAKE THAT DECISION RIGHT AWAY.
IF YOU WERE SATISFIED WITH THE STAFF REPORT AND WHATEVER THAT CITIZEN SAID DURING THE THE BEGINNING PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, OR YOU WANTED TO HONOR THEIR REQUEST AND PULL THOSE ITEMS PLUS ANY ITEMS ON YOUR OWN.
AND THEN THE LAST IS THE IS THE TWO PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS.
ONCE ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING WHICH WHICH I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT'S BETTER.
SO AGAIN, THE PUBLIC IS FRESHER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
AND YOU THAT MAKES IT A PRIORITY THAT YOU HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS YOU SERVE AT THE BEGINNING.
BUT THEN TO ELIMINATE THAT THE THE SECOND CHANCE AT THE END, OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU KNOW, IS UP TO THE COUNCIL AND WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM SOME CITIZENS THAT DON'T SUPPORT THAT. IT'S CERTAINLY YOUR CALL.
BUT THIS IS MY EFFORT AT TRYING TO ADVISE ON THE BASIS OF MY EXPERIENCE.
BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
FIRST WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TWO SECTIONS.
THE REASON WHY I, I APPRECIATE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT.
YOU'LL SAY THINGS DURING THE MEETING THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA OR I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW.
NUMBER TWO WAS CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE MEETING AND I HAVE SOMETHING I'D LIKE.
AND AS I REVIEW THE PACKETS, AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE, I READ THEM, READ ALL OF IT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE SOMETHING I DON'T I'M NOT AWARE OF.
BUT WHEN I GO THROUGH AND I SEE QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA I WANT UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA, I BRING THEM UP MORE SO THAT THE PUBLIC GETS TO HEAR WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ON SOME OF THESE IDEALS INSTEAD OF AN AUTOMATIC PASS.
BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, I WOULD HAVE TO GET UP HERE.
IF WE FOLLOW THE NEW POLICY THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, I WOULD HAVE TO GET UP UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO PULL CONSENT AGENDAS ONE, FIVE, SEVEN AND NINE UNDER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THEN YOU WOULD DECIDE IF YOU WANTED TO PULL THEM AND TALK ON IT OR NOT, AND I MIGHT NOT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'D BE UP TO YOU AGAIN.
WELL, WE'RE ALREADY DOING THAT.
WHEN WE PULL ANY CONSENT AGENDAS, WE ASK THE COUNCIL, IS THERE ANY CONSENT AGENDAS TO BE PULLED? YOU ASK IF THERE'S ANY FROM THE PUBLIC.
THEN YOU ASK IF THERE WAS ANY FOR THE COUNCIL AND YOU VOTE YAY OR NAY AT THAT TIME.
YOU COULD HAVE AT THAT TIME SAID, NO, I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO MR. BATTEN ABOUT THAT FOR ANY REASON.
SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR OPTION, I GUESS.
LAST THING, IF WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE MEETINGS GO QUICKER, THIS IS JUST A PROPOSAL.
BUT YOU WOULD ALSO BE LIMITED UNDER THE SAME CRITERIA THAT YOU GIVE ME.
BUT YOU WOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES PER, PER ITEM ON THE ON THE DOCKET.
I'M TELLING YOU HOW I SEE IT WITH THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT.
HE KNOWS HOW TO FOLLOW ORDERS.
ROBERT SCHNEIDER, 1796 WYNNEWOOD DRIVE, SOUTHEAST.
HE DOES SUCH A DEEP DIVE IN ALL OF THESE THINGS, AND I CAN'T SPEAK OF IT AS ARTICULATE AS HE IS, BUT DON'T RESTRICT OUR INPUT.
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I REALLY WANT I REALLY LIKE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE TWO, THE NEW MEMBERS HERE.THEY WANT TO LISTEN TO THE FOLKS.
DON'T MINIMIZE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, OKAY? IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US.
YOU DON'T HAVE MANY PEOPLE SHOWING UP IN THESE LATE HOURS ANYWAY, I MENTIONED.
CAN WE CAN WE MINIMIZE THAT OR TAKE TEN MINUTES OUT OF THE PRESENTATIONS? EVERY LITTLE BIT OF EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS.
WHAT CAN YOU DO TO HELP MAKE THIS MORE EFFICIENT? OKAY. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING OLD, TOO, BUT I BRING COFFEE WITH ME TO GET UP.
THIS IS IMPORTANT. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE A LOT TO A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO DO.
WHAT? WHAT'S HAPPENED TO PALM BAY LEAST IN THE ALMOST EIGHT YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE? HOW DO WE GO FORWARD? AND WHAT'S YOUR LEGACY GOING TO BE? I MEAN, YOU GUYS SEEM TO HAVE GRAND VISION ON THIS, AND YOU WANT TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
DON'T MINIMIZE THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING APPROACHABLE.
EXCUSE ME. BUTCH RAN 219 TRENTON AVENUE, AS USUAL.
BILL BATTEN STOLE ALL MY POINTS EXCEPT 2 OR 3.
SOMEONE MENTIONED PRESENTATIONS.
I THINK IT WAS THE GENTLEMAN JUST UP.
MAYBE YOU COULD GO TO ONCE A MONTH TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF EVERY MEETING.
JUST PUT IT AT ONE MEETING AND TIME YOURSELF ON THAT.
THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT OUR AMOUNT OF TIME TO DO THE PRESENTATION.
THE OTHER THING ON UNDER THE WHOLE WRITE UP THAT YOU HAD THERE, NUMBER ONE, I AGREE WITH THAT.
SO I'D LIKE THOSE LAST THREE MINUTES THERE.
THAT'S OKAY. YOU GOT TO HAVE SOME HUMOR, YOU KNOW? AND LIKE THE GENTLEMAN SAID, MAYBE.
OR LIKE BILL SAID, RATHER, IF YOU GUYS LIMIT IT TO YOURSELF.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S ALL I GOT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL AND GO BILLS.
OH. AS IN BUFFALO NOT BILL BATON.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR COMMENT CARDS.
OKAY, GENTLEMEN I NEED A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ALL THREE.
SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
OKAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, YOU'RE.
AND I GUESS I'LL KEEP THIS UNDER THREE MINUTES.
I REALLY DON'T THINK I GO MUCH LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES ANYWAYS, WHEN I MAKE MY POINT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S JUST START HERE.
AND AND I'M WITH YOU ON THOSE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE, THE FIRST YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SPEAKING AT THE BEGINNING.
RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S CHANGING AN ORDINANCE OR CITY LAW OR A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE COMMUNITY, YOU DO STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME UP AND SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY ON THOSE ITEMS. AS FAR AS THE CONSENT AGENDA GOES.
IT IS INCREDIBLY YOU KNOW, UNUSUAL FOR FOR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO PULL CONSENT ITEMS. AND YOU CAN LOOK AT IT EITHER WAY, IT'S A POSITIVE OR A NEGATIVE THAT WE'RE DIFFERENT.
WE WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND TO LEAD.
AND SO WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THAT.
SO HAVING ALL THESE MEETINGS AND TALKING WITH STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO THE DUE DILIGENCE IS BEING DONE.
AND WE DO TRY TO MAKE OURSELVES AS AVAILABLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO YOU ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS US VIA REACHING OUT TO US.
YOU CAN CALL ME I MAKE MY LIKE, MY CELL PHONE NUMBERS (321) 576-4163.
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I PUT IT ON ALL MY CAMPAIGN LITERATURE.AND SO THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS TO NOT ALLOW RESIDENTS TO PULL CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AND TO GET RID OF FINAL COMMENT AT THE END, BECAUSE WE ALSO SHOULD REALLY BE THE ONES WHO ARE HAVING THE FINAL COMMENT AFTER WE'VE HEARD EVERYTHING AND WE'VE HEARD EVERYBODY'S INPUT, WE'VE HEARD OUR INPUT, AND NOW WE HAVE COUNCIL REPORTS.
AND THEN THAT REALLY SHOULD BE THE END OF IT AT THAT POINT.
SO THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION TO TO PASS THIS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
WELL SAID, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, THE ONLY THING TO ADD IS WE WE APPOINTED MR. MORGAN THE INTERIM BECAUSE OF HOW EFFICIENT HE'S BEEN IN HIS PAST.
I DO LIKE THE IDEAS REGARDING PRESENTATIONS.
BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN TIMES WHERE WE'VE HAD PRESENTATIONS GO ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL 730, AND THE THE WAY YOUR CIRCADIAN RHYTHM IS, THE LATER IT IS, THE LESS SOUND YOU'RE GOING TO BE WITH YOUR DECISIONS.
SO WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT WITH PRESENTATIONS, MAYBE JUST DO THEM ALL AT THE FIRST OF THE MONTH, OR WE CAN STRUCTURE IT WHERE IF WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG AGENDA, DO THE PRESENTATIONS ON THE THE MEETING OF THE MONTH, THAT'S GOING TO BE A LIGHTER MONTH, I MEAN, A LIGHTER MEETING OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. BUT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL MEETINGS WHERE IT'S BEEN LIKE 7:30 P.M.
AND WE'RE GETTING TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
NOT NOT FOR ANY EVERY EVERYBODY SPEAKING MAYOR, YOU YOU GIVE THE PROCLAMATION.
BUT THEN SOMETIMES THEY, THEY GET PASSIONATE AND THEY'RE UP THERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN USUAL.
I THINK NUMBER ONE IS EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY NEEDED.
I, I DO NOT THINK WE SHOULD EVER TAKE THE VOICE AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE.
I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD ADD SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID AND ACTUALLY TAKE A DIVE INTO THIS TO BECOME EFFICIENCY, ESPECIALLY IF HE CAME UP WITH THIS ALREADY.
I THINK HE CAN COME UP WITH A LOT MORE.
ESPECIALLY THE PRESENTATION IDEA.
I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THAT IF WE POSSIBLY COULD.
DEPUTY MAYOR. I LIKE I LIKE HOW IT'S PRESENTED.
ONE OTHER THING I LIKE THAT ACTUALLY, MELBOURNE DOES IS THEY DON'T DO COUNCIL REPORTS.
I HAVEN'T SEEN IT SO MUCH ON THIS COUNCIL, BUT I'VE SEEN COUNCIL IN THE PAST.
SOMETIMES THE COUNCIL REPORTS GO 15 MINUTES.
SO THAT WOULD ONLY BE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT I HAD.
OKAY. SO HERE'S HERE'S WHERE WHERE I'M AT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD HAVE THAT SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE.
AGAIN, I, I, I LEAN WITH COUNCILMAN HAMMER ON THAT SECOND, SECOND ONE.
I UNDERSTAND IT'S A PACKAGE DEAL, I GET IT.
I ALWAYS PRIDED ON ON THAT ENGAGEMENT.
LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE 36 YEARS NOW.
I'VE SEEN MONROE WAS NOT NOT EVEN TULANE.
IT WAS A IT WAS A DIRT ROAD BACK IN THE DAY.
RIGHT. AND I'VE SEEN SUCH, SUCH GROWTH.
I'VE SEEN BAYSIDE LAKES DEVELOP THE.
SO WE AS COUNCIL HAVE, HAVE GROWN AND PART OF THE EFFICIENCY I THINK IS I KNOW THAT WE'RE HITTING ON PRESENTATION PRESENTATIONS IS DIFFERENT THAN RECOGNIZING OUR CITIZENS OR RECOGNIZING GROUPS.
WE HAVE HAD TO YOUR COMMENT, WE HAVE HAD TWO PRESENTATIONS THAT HAVE LASTED OVER TEN MINUTES EACH.
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SO I GET THAT ASPECT OF IT.THE ONLY THING IS THAT LAST PART.
I CAN COUNT VOTES, AND I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE WAY WE'RE GOING.
WE ARE GOING TO GET WHAT I REFER TO AS A LIGHTING SYSTEM.
AND IN THAT EFFORT, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAG IN.
IF YOU'RE NOT TAGGING IN, YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT MOVING.
I'VE BEEN WANTING THIS FOR OVER FOUR YEARS.
I KNOW THERE'S SEVERAL MEMBERS THAT HAVE WANTED ME TO HAVE THAT TOOL BECAUSE MY HEAD'S ON A SWIVEL, AND THIS DAIS WAS NOT CREATED FOR DIALOG OF FIVE MEMBERS. I'M BEING REAL BECAUSE I CAN'T SEE YOUR FACES.
BUT I'LL BE ABLE TO MONITOR THAT.
AND I THINK THAT WILL HELP US IN THE LONG RUN.
THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO CALL THE VOTE.
I'VE GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. YOU KNOW, CAME, YOU KNOW, COME TO MEETINGS PRIOR TO BEING ELECTED.
AND I'VE BEEN OUT TO MEET, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING.
EIGHT MEETINGS NOW IN FOUR WEEKS.
AND YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD HAS CONSISTENTLY REMAINED VACANT.
AND I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT DISSOLVED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE? NO SPEAKER CARDS, MAYOR. NO SPEAKER CARDS.
I KNOW THAT YOU STARTED THIS BOARD.
AND THERE WAS A LOT MORE ENGAGEMENT BACK IN THE DAY, RIGHT TO TO YOUR CREDIT.
BUT DEPUTY MAYOR HAS CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
IT'S HARD TO FEEL THEY DON'T MEET.
SO WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? WELL, I WOULD LIKE IF IF THE CITY CLERK AND IF HR CAN SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS UP AND RUNNING INITIALLY WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE OFFICE 2019, THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I PUT TOGETHER.
AND THIS YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VETERAN FLAG PROGRAM.
THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VETERAN PARADE.
THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INTERNSHIPS WITHIN THE CITY.
SO THEY WERE VERY PRODUCTIVE AND EFFICIENT.
THAT'S WHEN EVERYTHING KIND OF JUST FELL APART.
SO WHO WOULD YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST? THE CITY CLERK.
YEAH, SHE LOOKS READY, MRS. JONES. SURE.
I CAN GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY AND HR CAN CHIME IN IF I MISSPEAK ON ANYTHING.
AS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SAID, THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2019.
IT IS COMPRISED OF NINE STUDENTS AND THREE ADULT MEMBERS.
PER THE ORDINANCE, THE ADULT MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO BE FINGERPRINTED.
AT THIS POINT, THE YOUTH ADVISORY BOARD HASN'T MET SINCE 2021.
THERE WERE QUORUM ISSUES AROUND 2021, SO WE HADN'T HAD MEETINGS.
THEN IN 2022, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT NOTIFIED THE CITY THAT WE WERE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STATE AND NATIONAL CRIMINAL HISTORY CHECKS.
BUT WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL OTHER STEPS TO OVERCOME, SO WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED IT YET.
COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YES, MISS.
THAT COVERS IT PRETTY MUCH, RIGHT? YEAH. SO IT'S ABOUT FINGERPRINTS? YEAH. SO IT'S BEEN AN ISSUE.
AT THIS POINT, I'M FINE WITH IT.
BUT I'M FINE WITH IT BEING GONE FOR NOW.
BUT I STILL WANT US TO ENGAGE THE YOUTH.
IF IT'S NOT THROUGH THIS, THROUGH SOME OTHER MECHANISM.
WELL, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
BUT WHAT I FOUND THAT THE DEFICIENCY IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE 535 LEGISLATORS, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, AND ALL OF THAT.
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SO THAT IS PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT THAT I HAD OVER THE TIME.I DO DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DISCUSS OR WAIT TILL WE GET A MOTION? WELL, WELL, I'LL JUST SAY, SINCE THIS IS JUST KIND OF OFF, IT'S ABOUT THE BOARD, BUT NOT REALLY.
BUT ALONG THE CONVERSATION WE'RE JUST HAVING RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS A LOT, AND IT WAS A PHENOMENAL IDEA.
AND THAT FIRST BOARD OBVIOUSLY CAME UP WITH SOME GREAT IDEAS.
AND THE THOUGHT THAT I WAS KIND OF HAVING ACTUALLY DRIVING HERE TONIGHT WITH THIS WAS WHAT IF WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE A COMPETITION WITHIN THE SCHOOLS WHERE WE, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS COULD GO INTO THE CIVICS CLASSES, MAYBE GIVE A LITTLE CLASS, AND THE TEACHERS LET THEM ALL COME UP WITH AN IDEA, AND THEN MAYBE THE TOP THREE IDEAS GET TO COME UP.
OR WE COULD PICK ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF BRAINSTORMING.
BUT YEAH, MAYBE WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING LIKE MAYOR FOR THE DAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST THREW THAT OUT THERE OR COUNCILMAN FOR THE DAY OR SOMETHING.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT COULD BE PART OF WHAT IS THAT THE VISION YOU HAVE IN COUNCILMAN.
WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE SGA OR THROUGH THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT.
YEAH. STUDENT GOVERNMENT OR JUST THROUGH THE CLASSES THAT THEY HAVE.
LIKE, THERE'S SO MANY WAYS WE CAN ATTACK THIS.
OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THERE.
SO IS THE FINGERPRINTS JUST FOR THE ADULT THAT'S IN IT? YEAH. CAN WE JUST MODIFY IT TO WHERE THE STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT FOR EACH HIGH SCHOOL IS THE BOARD MEMBER.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ADULT.
THERE'D BE A STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT FOR EACH HIGH SCHOOL OR.
I DON'T SEE EACH HIGH SCHOOL HAS HAS ONE REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD.
WELL, THERE'S ONLY ONE BOARD, THOUGH.
YOU HAVE PALM BAY HIGH HERITAGE.
YEAH. PLUS THE CHARTER SCHOOLS AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL HAVE ONE FROM PINEAPPLE AND YOU'LL HAVE ONE FROM ODYSSEY.
THAT HAVE TO WAIT ON SOMEBODY TO GET APPOINTED.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOPE SOMEBODY GETS APPOINTED.
BUT THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD GET OKAYED WITH THE SCHOOLS AS WELL.
WELL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS, DEPUTY MAYOR? YOU BROUGHT THE ITEM. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? I'M STILL IN FAVOR OF DISSOLVING THE BOARD, I THINK.
EACH MEMBER UP HERE CAN JUST GO DO THAT ON THEIR OWN.
OKAY, SO OKAY, THAT THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.
SECOND. GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I THINK A LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED.
YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, AND AND LIKE COUNCILMAN LANDRUM SAID, YOU YOU HAD SOME REALLY GOOD SUCCESSES PRIOR TO COVID. YES, SIR. MAYBE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T BELIEVE IN ALWAYS THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH.
BUT THE FINGERPRINTING ISSUE IS IS AN ISSUE, RIGHT? UNLIKE ANY OTHER BOARD.
AND WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR YOUTH.
YEP. SO THAT THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
THAT THAT. IS THAT. SO DEPUTY MAYOR, I MEAN, DID YOU.
OKAY. NO, I KNOW, DID YOU? OH, NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
NO. YEAH. SO I'LL I'M TRYING TO THINK.
I'LL. I'LL REACH OUT TO SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER JOHN THOMAS, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER KATIE CAMPBELL, AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM JUST TO BRAINSTORM AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK ON HOW TO HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS.
BECAUSE THERE THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, WORKING FOR THE CITY OR IN POLITICS.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ENCOURAGE THAT.
WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, NIP IT IN THE BUD.
SO THERE'S ALWAYS A DIFFERENT WAY TO SKIN A CAT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO STEP IN AND HELP YOU WITH THAT IF I'M ALLOWED TO.
YEAH. WELL. WELL, IF IT GETS DISSOLVED, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING IT BACK WITH A BETTER IDEA.
YEAH, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH SUNSHINE ON THIS ONE.
NO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCUSS.
I'M GOING TO REACH OUT TO PEOPLE AS WELL.
ALL RIGHT, SO I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE.YEAH. SO THIS KIND OF GOES ALONG WITH THE WITH THE SAME POINT OF TYING UP STAFF TIME EFFICIENCY.
ET CETERA. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN EPA, WE HAVE A FLORIDA DEP, WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL AT OUR CITY LEVEL.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD.
SO BUT AGAIN, THIS IS UP FOR DISCUSSION.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SPEAKER CARDS AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HERE TONIGHT.
SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND YIELD FOR THAT FOR NOW AND LET PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO SPEAKER CARDS, DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BENTON.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'M SPEAKING MORE FOR SUSAN CONLEY.
IF YOU KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL, SHE'S NORMALLY AT ALL THE MEETINGS.
SHE COULD NOT BE HERE AT THIS MEETING AND SHE SITS ON SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
SHE COULD NOT MAKE THIS MEETING.
SO I'M KIND OF SPEAKING ON NOT ON HER BEHALF, BUT IN HER NAMESAKE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD DOES A LOT.
THEY ACTUALLY ORGANIZED FUNCTIONS THAT HAPPEN OUT IN THE CITY RIGHT NOW.
THEY DO SOME OF THEIR FUNCTIONS WHERE THEY'LL PARTICIPATE WITH THE CITY FUNCTIONS AND THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN BOOTHS SET UP FOR SUSTAINABILITY, FOR ACTIVELY BEING INVOLVED IN THE IN THE COUNT, IN THE CITY'S FUNCTIONS.
THEY ACTUALLY ORGANIZED THEIR OWN WRITTEN POLICY INTO THIS, INTO THE CITY.
THEY WENT THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF WRITING THEIR OWN POLICIES FOR THE CITY TO HAVE ON RECORD.
THAT'S HOW INVOLVED THEY WANTED TO BE.
THE OTHER THING ABOUT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IS THAT THEY WERE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
THEY WERE ASKING TO DO SOMETHING THAT WAS GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.
I PERSONALLY FOLLOW WHAT THEY TEACH, WHAT THEY PREACH, BUT I DO IT ON MY OWN PERSONAL BASIS.
SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF GETTING AWAY WITH THIS, DOING AWAY WITH THIS BOARD STRICTLY BECAUSE THEY TAKE A HIGH INTEREST AND THEY ACTIVELY INVOLVED, NOT SO MUCH WHAT HAPPENS HERE IN THE CHAMBERS, BUT FOR THE MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY MAN HOURS THAT THEY PUT IN OUTSIDE OF THEIR FUNCTIONS, WHERE THEY COME IN HERE AND GET ORGANIZED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
THEY ORGANIZE IN HERE AND THEY MAKE IT HAPPEN OUTSIDE THE CHAMBERS.
MY AUTHORIZED TO ASK QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU GIVE DETAILED EXAMPLES OF WHAT THEY DO? YES. THEY HAD THE RAIN BARREL.
THEY HAD RAIN BARREL WORKSHOPS.
THEY HAD THE SAVE OUR LAGOON COMMITTEE TABLES.
THOSE ARE JUST THE THREE I CAN TALK TO.
SO THOSE ARE ALSO DONE BY THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL WHICH IS USING A CITY BUILDING.
THAT'S HUMAN. THAT'S THE THAT'S ANOTHER GOVERNMENT IDENTITY.
THEY'RE USING THEIR RESOURCES JUST LIKE THEY USE THE RESOURCES HERE WITHIN THE CITY.
THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN BOOTHS.
THEY HAD THE RAIN GARDEN RAIN GARDEN DEMONSTRATION SET UP.
THAT'S OVER AT YOUR PUBLIC WORKS? THEY DO A LOT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S ANOTHER GOVERNMENT IDENTITY THAT COINCIDES WITH IT.
WELL, SO WHAT THIS IS A GOVERNMENT IDENTITY.
ALL RIGHT. I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, AND I'LL CHILL OUT A LITTLE BIT.
IT WAS JUST A QUESTION, MASTER CHIEF.
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN. ALL RIGHT.
JESSICA LOVELL. 475 GALLAGHER STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I'M A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE THE BOARD.
WHILE GIVEN THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO PROPOSE SOLUTIONS TO ANY OF THE IDENTIFIED ISSUES IN ORDER TO RECTIFY.
I THINK THIS EXERCISE WILL ALSO HELP WITH A COMPREHENSIVE VIEW TO.
SO WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THIS EVENING FOR THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT.
CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, PLEASE? THANK YOU. SORRY, I'M HEARING MYSELF, BUT YEAH, YOU CAN'T HEAR.
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TO BE ABLE TO SOLIDIFY A STRATEGIC PATH FORWARD IN ORDER TO MATURE THE BOARD TO EXPECTATIONS.THANK YOU. OKAY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION, MAYOR.
YES, SIR. WHAT DOES A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD DO THAT A ENVIRONMENTAL NONPROFIT DOES NOT DO? I THINK THEY BOTH WORK FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT THESE ARE CITIZENS THAT ARE REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PALM BAY THAT AREN'T INTERESTED OR BIASED, THAT AREN'T INFLUENCED BY PROFITS, THAT, SEE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE REPRESENTING THE CITY, THE COUNCIL OR THE CITIZENS.
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
4517 CARLIN CIRCLE, NORTHEAST PALM BAY.
CURRENT CHAIR OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF.
I GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA WITH THE AGRICULTURE, EDUCATION AND COMMUNICATION.
WE GOT ANOTHER GATOR. VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THAT'S MY. IF EVERYONE, I THINK, ON COUNCIL THAT KNOWS ME, I'M AN ENVIRONMENTAL GUY.
AGRICULTURE, THAT KIND OF DEAL.
THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, WE, AS IT'S BEEN MENTIONED, THE SUSTAINABILITY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY ACTION PLAN PASSED IN 2001, WAS DEVELOPED BY THAT BOARD COUNCIL BEFORE Y'ALL.
IT'S THE CITIZENS COMING TO ADVISE THE BOARD OR THE COUNCIL ON WAYS THAT WE CAN HAVE BETTER SUSTAINABILITY INFRASTRUCTURE, BETTER FOR THE LAGOON BAFFLE BOXES, GOING TO THOSE EVENTS, HAVING THE CITIZEN INPUT.
I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR THAT.
MUCH DIFFERENT THAN I KNOW NONPROFIT CAN DO SOME OF THE SAME STUFF, BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT TWIST.
SO WHERE WE HAVE CONSTANT WILDLIFE THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND I KNOW A HANDFUL OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN AGRICULTURE AND ALSO WILDLIFE.
SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY, AND THAT'S WHERE OUR CITIZENS BRING THAT FORWARD.
THIS IS GOING TOO LATE. SO WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON THAT AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE STAFF TIME.
BUT WE ALSO VOLUNTEER OUTSIDE OF THE BOARD MEETING TIMES TO DO NATIVE PLANTS AROUND RETENTION PONDS, TO TAKE AWAY THE OVERLOAD OF NUTRIENTS BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE VERY INVOLVED WITH.
ALSO, THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY FAIR, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, GOING TO WORKSHOPS, SEMINARS, CONFERENCES, AND MOST OF ALL PROTECTING WILDLIFE, A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT, ETC.
AND THIS IS WITH NINE HOURS OF NOTICE AND I'VE SAT HERE.
THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO ME.
A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE MORE HERE IF THERE WAS MORE TIME.
YEAH. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAS A QUESTION.
YES. AND I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING UP.
BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS BOARD, BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, BECAUSE THAT WAS VERY THOROUGH WHAT Y'ALL DID. KUDOS TO THAT.
HOW MUCH ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN ON THOSE ACTION ITEMS THAT Y'ALL PROPOSED? YEAH. SO WE JUST HAD A PRESENTATION FROM CITY WORKS OR PUBLIC WORKS, I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT STORMWATER TREATMENT.
A LOT OF THE THINGS SHE DESCRIBED IS WHAT WAS IN THAT ACTION PLAN.
SO I WASN'T HERE WHEN IT OR I WAS ON THE, THE BOARD WHENEVER IT WAS CREATED.
THAT, OF COURSE, WILL COME TO Y'ALL.
Y'ALL WILL HAVE THE FINAL SAY OF THAT ACTION PLAN, AND THAT KIND OF GIVES THE CITY A CITIZEN INPUT.
Y'ALL'S APPROVAL ON HOW WE GO THROUGH.
SO THE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO US HAS STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. I THINK SOME OF NOT THE PARKING LOT, MAYBE THE PARKING LOT WILL HAVE LIKE STORMWATER HOLDING AREAS.
SO THAT IN THE PLAN IS ABOUT CONSERVATION EASEMENTS OR PROTECTING FLORIDA FOREVER TYPE DEALS.
WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH OR THERE'S BEEN STAFFING CHANGES.
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SO GETTING BACK ON TRACK OF CONSERVATION EASEMENTS TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE WILDLIFE IN THE CITY AND GIVE THOSE KIND OF SAFE HAVENS FOR THE NATURAL WILDLIFE THAT WE HAVE, AND ALSO FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO GO AND STROLL THROUGH AND LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT HERE LOCALLY IN OUR GREAT CITY.SO WE'RE ENGAGING ON MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS.
SO THAT'S PROBABLY ONE THAT WE COULD BRING IN TO SEE THE GROWTH OF THE CITY.
BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT GOES IN WITH THE CONSERVATION EASEMENTS AS WELL.
AND OF COURSE THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT PARTS OF THE CITY THAT WILL BE VITAL TO OUR ECOSYSTEMS. THANK YOU, MR. LEWIS. OF COURSE.
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
PROUD PALM BAY RESIDENT FOR 30 YEARS NOW.
SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE HAPPEN IN THIS CITY.
AND I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, SO THIS BOARD IS PASSIONATE FOR ME.
I'VE BEEN ON IT FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS, AND I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF NATIVE PLANTS IN THE CITY.
AND WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS ISSUE A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE TO THIS GROUP BECAUSE AS MR. MORGAN, THE, THE CITY MANAGER, KNOWS, MOST CITIES HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
MOST CITIES HAVE THEIR SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF AUTHORITY AND INTERACTION WITH THEIR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER CITY OFFICIALS, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT OURS COMPARES TO THAT.
I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE BECAUSE IN THE ACTION PLAN, IT SAYS THAT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE BOARD IS TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF IN MATTERS RELATING TO POLLUTION REDUCTION, WATER QUALITY INITIATIVES, COMMUNITY EDUCATION INVOLVEMENT.
SO THERE ARE OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS THAT ARE A-PLUS-PLUS.
I THINK WE ARE PRETTY DARN GOOD, BUT I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IMPROVEMENT.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY INTERESTING TO HAVE THAT COMPARISON DONE WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ADVISORY BOARDS, ESPECIALLY BEACHSIDE, BECAUSE BEACHSIDE HAS TO REALLY BE A PLUS ON THIS SINCE THEY'RE LOSING GROUND AS WE SPEAK.
OVER THERE. SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE.
IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT OUR EFFECTIVENESS IS, I'M SURE WE COULD IMPROVE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I THINK WE COULD ALSO LEARN A LOT FROM OTHER CITIES.
ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE? ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU MA'AM. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? YES. THANK YOU MA'AM.
SO COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, WE'VE HEARD THERE'S A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
PALM BAY ERS THAT ARE LITERALLY WORKING HARD ON THIS.
BUT I WANTED TO SEE WHERE WHERE WE COULD STRIKE A BALANCE HERE.
RIGHT. THE BOARD SHALL IDENTIFY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL CONCERNING AFFORDABLE STRATEGIES ASSOCIATED WITH CONSERVATION, RENEWABLE ENERGY, ENERGY EFFICIENCY, DEVELOP AN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR CITY OPERATIONS WITH A GOAL OF ACHIEVING 100% CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035.
PROVIDE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON ACTIVITIES, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN AND REVIEW ORDINANCES AND POLICIES THAT HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON THE CITY, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO OUT OF ALL OF THESE, WHERE WOULD YOU.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO REMOVE, OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
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NONPROFIT SHOULD BE DOING THE LITTLE BIT THAT REALLY ISN'T RELEVANT TO A NONPROFIT.SO THAT'S JUST 30,000 FOOT LEVEL.
WHAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED, 100%, I WANT TO GET RID OF IS THE THE IDEA THAT WE NEED TO BE GOING TOWARDS 100% CLEAN ENERGY BY 2030. WHAT IS CLEAN ENERGY? IS IT DOES IT EVEN DESCRIBE WHAT THAT IS IN THERE? SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMPROMISE THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BE YEAH.
SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOAL AND THAT AGGRESSIVE GOAL I DON'T SEE IT BEING ACHIEVED.
AND THEN WHAT ARE THE DETAILS OF THAT GOAL.
SO I THINK I THINK GAS IS CLEAN.
SO WHAT IS CLEAN ENERGY? I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN THERE.
BUT SO, SO ANYWAYS, THAT 100%.
I MEAN, PERSONALLY, I THINK WE DISSOLVE THE BOARD, BUT IF THERE IS NOT IF I DON'T HAVE THE VOTES ON THAT TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO EITHER REMOVE THAT SECTION OR LET'S GIVE GUIDANCE TO JUST COMPLETELY REWRITE THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD INTO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE TO, TO THIS COUNCIL.
WELL, AND I, WE HEARD FROM I BELIEVE IT WAS JUDITH EARLIER TODAY.
NO, NO, IT WAS JUDITH THAT SAID PERHAPS WE COULD ADD.
SO NOW THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK.
I'M GOOD WITH REMOVING THAT GIVEN DIRECTION.
BECAUSE THAT THAT IS AN UNSURMOUNTABLE TASK IN AND OF ITSELF.
HOWEVER, KEEPING THE OTHER TOPICS OF STANDARDS OF RECYCLING, ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS PRESERVATION, LANDSCAPE DESIGN, FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT OUR CITIZENS WANT TO ENGAGE IN AND WANT TO BE PART OF THAT.
SO I WOULD I WOULD, INSTEAD OF DISSOLVING THE WHOLE BOARD, PERHAPS GIVE THAT REDIRECTION.
YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT THROW IT ALL AWAY.
LET'S SEE WHERE WE CAN HONE IN ON IT.
SO I WOULD, YOU KNOW, AGREE THAT MAYBE WE COULD JUST HONE IN ON, ON, ON, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM DIFFERENT TASKS OR REMOVING THAT FUNCTION SOMEHOW AMENDING IT, BUT NOT DOING AWAY WITH IT IN ITS ENTIRETY.
BUT THAT'S JUST ONE PERSON HERE.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR. I GUESS I'LL NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE DIALOG.
MOTION TO REVISE THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.
OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECOND.
I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
YES. JUST I LOOKING AT THE OVERVIEW AND LOOKING AT THE BOARD.
WHATEVER YOUR VOTE IS, DOESN'T MATTER, BUT.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF HOLISTIC TIE INS BETWEEN WHAT THE BOARD DOES AND WHAT IS CONTAINED IN THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A REMOVAL OF THE BOARD, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE TO FILL IN THOSE BLANKS, FILL IN THOSE THOSE TASKS AND THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO CONSERVATION.
WITH ANOTHER BOARD, I GOT EFFECTUATED NOT NECESSARILY WITH ANOTHER BOARD, BUT IF THIS BOARD IS CURRENTLY ACTUALLY EFFECTUATING THOSE GOALS, POLICIES IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS REGARDING TO THE CONSERVATION ELEMENT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE UP THAT SHORTCOMING.
YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE CONSIDERING.
WELL, MAYOR AND I WAS ACTUALLY HAD THIS ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO DISCUSS IN COUNCIL REPORTS, BUT WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGER AND THE NEW COUNCIL, WE 100% NEED TO BE GOING BACK INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ANYWAYS AND LOOKING AT QUITE A FEW THINGS, I THINK.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO DO ALL THAT SO WELL, WE COULD ALWAYS REVISE THE COMP PLAN, RIGHT? BUT WE JUST WE JUST GOT ONE.
BUT THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DIGGING INTO SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT NOW.
RIGHT. SO THAT BEING SAID, AND CONSIDERING.
YES, SIR. YEAH, BECAUSE I MADE THE MOTION.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF.
I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK, MISS JANE.
BUT THE TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP, SO I'LL SPEAK ON IT BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN ON IT BEFORE.
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BUT IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, WE'RE NOT GETTING THE BANG FOR BUCK WHEN IT COMES TO MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL.I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALL THE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE LEASING OUT FOR FREE AND ASK OURSELVES, ARE WE REALLY GETTING A RETURN ON INVESTMENT? I DON'T SEE ONE WITH THEM.
I DON'T SEE ONE WITH ANOTHER ONE.
BUT THEY PRETTY MUCH EVERY YEAR, ALL WE'VE GOTTEN IS A REPORT AND THAT'S IT.
SO TO TO THEIR POINT OF WHAT THE NONPROFITS ARE DOING, I SEE EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
AND I FEEL I KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT MORE VALUE FROM THE BOARD THAN THE NONPROFIT.
SO I'M ALL FOR REVISING AND PULLING OUT, YOU KNOW, FINE TUNING, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP IT.
WELL, THE ONLY THING WE WERE DISCUSSING IS THAT DEVELOP ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR CITY OPERATIONS GOAL OF ACHIEVING 100% CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035.
AND CITY OPERATIONS. OH, THAT IS THAT IS, THAT IS LIKE SUCH AN UNSURMOUNTABLE.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE NEW GREEN DEAL, RIGHT? THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AN UNSURMOUNTABLE.
SO I THINK IF WE'RE JUST NOT THROWING OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATHWATER.
COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN AND FELT THAT WE COULD DO AWAY WITH THAT COMMENT AND AND BUILD FROM THERE.
BUT WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE REVISION.
LET ME JUST ASK A FEW QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN.
CAN WE LEAVE THE BOARD AS IS AND HAVE THEM REMOVE THAT OUT OF THEIR FUNCTION? I GUESS THAT THE QUESTION SHOULD GO TO THE CITY CLERK.
I ACTUALLY I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I JUST I WOULD JUST MAKE A COMMENT.
IT JUST SAYS WITH A GOAL OF ACHIEVING.
IT DOESN'T SAY WHETHER WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO ACHIEVE IT.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THOSE, TWEAK THEM, REVISE THEM.
SOME OF THESE ARE CODIFIED AS ORDINANCES.
SO THIS WOULD INVOLVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE.
SO IF YOU'RE DIRECTING STAFF TO COME BACK, YOU COUNCIL CAN DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK AND, AND AND LOOK OVER THE ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE SUSTAINABILITY, SUSTAINABILITY, RIGHT, RESILIENCY, THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REWARD AND COME BACK WITH A PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
WITH THOSE THINGS, YOU THAT WHATEVER DIRECTION IS GIVEN TO STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A, WITH AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SO WITH THE REVISION MOTION, QUALIFY THAT OR CAN WE JUST DO AWAY WITH THAT MOTION AND GIVE STAFF THAT DIRECTION? WELL, I'M NOT CLEAR WHAT THE MOTION IS.
IS THE MOTION ON THE DAIS TO DISSOLVE OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR REVISIONS? REVISION TO REVISE SO YOU CAN DIRECT STAFF TO TO LOOK OVER THE ORDINANCE AND SUGGEST THESE ARE THE REVISIONS WE WANT TO MAKE.
AND STAFF CAN THEN COME BACK AND PRESENT TO YOU AN ORDINANCE WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS.
AND THEN IT COULD BE THEN DISCUSSED BY THIS COUNCIL.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
OKAY. SO PART OF THAT REVISION IS THAT THAT COMMENT THE STAFF CAPTURE THAT.
OKAY. SO ARE WE ALL CLEAR ON WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON? YEAH. BEFORE WE VOTE, I JUST WANT TO.
SO THERE'S A REASON WHY THESE BOARDS ARE SO VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
HE'S BEEN TO D.C., HE'S BEEN TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES TO LEARN THESE THINGS TO TO TO GO THROUGH SEMINARS, TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS, TO LEARN THE ITEMS HE'S BRINGING TO US FOR FREE.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A BOARD.
AND I, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND TAKING OUT A BOARD THAT PROVIDES SO MUCH TO US.
WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IT'S THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, RIGHT? IT'S IT'S NOT JUST MR. LOUIS. IT'S IT'S THE COMMUNITY AT AT LARGE AND WANTING TO TO ENGAGE WITH COUNCIL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
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BUT RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A MOTION FOR TO REVISE.STAFF IS AWARE OF THAT REVISION.
BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO.
WE ARE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS.
I'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.
ALL RIGHT. I GOT A COUPLE, SO BEAR WITH ME.
[COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]
FIRST OFF YEAH, THE THE I WANT TO THANK, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT HERE ANYMORE.I WANT TO THANK THE BAYSIDE COURSE.
THIS MEETING IS CLOSE TO CHRISTMAS.
AND THEN TO GO RIGHT FROM THERE INTO BEING ABLE TO HONOR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S FATHER.
AND SO IT WAS JUST A REAL HONOR TO BE ABLE TO BE PART OF BOTH OF THOSE.
AND IT WAS A GREAT WAY TO START THIS MEETING.
SO ONE ITEM THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP EARLIER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND IT WAS SOMETHING I'VE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
THE PRIOR COUNCIL APPROVED THOSE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT COUNCIL NOW.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, I AM 100% AGAINST THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS.
I TALKED ABOUT IT IN MY CAMPAIGN.
I WAS ASKED ABOUT IT MULTIPLE TIMES AT CANDIDATE FORUMS. AND TO ME WITH THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, THERE'S MULTIPLE ASPECTS TO IT.
FIRST OFF, IT'S IT'S PROMOTING THE SURVEILLANCE STATE.
IT'S EERILY REMINISCENT OF WHAT CHINA IS DOING IN HONG KONG.
IT'S ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS A SURVEILLANCE STATE.
SO FROM THAT MATTER, I DEFINITELY WANT TO PULL IT FROM ANOTHER MATTER.
IT'S LIKE, OKAY, THE POINT IS, THEY'RE SPEEDING IN A SCHOOL ZONE.
WE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN FRONT OF OUR SCHOOLS EITHER WAY.
AND NOW I HAVE THE UTMOST RESPECT IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
AND I LOVE OUR CHIEF AND OUR DEPUTY CHIEF THAT ARE HERE RIGHT NOW.
THE CAMERA WILL TAKE CARE OF IT.
I CAN GO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, PATROL IN ANOTHER AREA.
WELL, WE'RE ALSO DOING SCHOOL HARDENING.
AND SO I DON'T THINK THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO LEAVE ANYWAYS.
AND MAYBE CHIEF CAN COME UP AND TALK TO THAT.
I THINK WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH SCHOOL HARDENING, BUT I DON'T WANT THAT TO EVENTUALLY BECOME A REASON IN THE FUTURE THAT WE STOP HAVING LAW ENFORCEMENT IN FRONT OF SCHOOLS. AND THEN AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT WE'RE GIVING TICKETS TO PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEEDING THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONE.
WELL, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN OUT WARNINGS AND PEOPLE ARE NOT SPEEDING DURING SCHOOL ZONE HOURS BECAUSE THERE'S FLASHING LIGHTS AND THEY CAN'T SPEED BECAUSE OF THE THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT ARE IN LINE.
AND PROBABLY THEY'RE STILL, YOU KNOW, POLICE PRESENCE OUTSIDE THAT THEY ARE GETTING THE WARNINGS NOT DURING SCHOOL ZONE HOURS, WHICH BEATS THE WHOLE POINT OF THE SYSTEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT OF REASONS FOR ME, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE THERE WAS A COST AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A PAST COUNCIL DECISION, BUT THERE'S JUST SO MANY NEGATIVES TO THIS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY USED TO HAVE THESE CAMERAS ON RED LIGHT.
SO YOU WOULD GET A TICKET IF YOU RAN A RED LIGHT.
AND NOW WE'RE KIND OF SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR SOMETHING SIMILAR.
SO IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FROM COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND AND BRING UP AN ORDINANCE TO TO SCRAP THE ORDINANCE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ALLOWS THE CAMERAS I YIELD.
DID YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CHIEF YOU.
AND THEN I GOT CARRIED AWAY. SO.
CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND AND TALK ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE IN FRONT OF SCHOOLS AND WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS? I THOUGHT THOSE CAMERAS WERE STATE STATUTE.
GOOD EVENING. SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, SO REFERENCE SCHOOLS IN TERMS OF HARDENING OUR PRESENCE IN OUR SCHOOLS, ASIDE FROM THE SROS THAT WE HAVE ON A FEW OF OUR SCHOOLS AND ALSO THE GUARDIANS AND THE SPECIALISTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO THE SCHOOLS AS WELL THROUGH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
WE DO HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED SCHOOLS WITHIN THEIR AREAS THAT THEY FREQUENT THE SCHOOLS.
THAT ARE THEIR ASSIGNED TASKS THROUGH THEIR SHIFT, THROUGH THEIR SUPERVISION DAILY.
WITH REGARDS TO SECURITY MEASURES, WE ALSO HAVE OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE UNIT THAT IS OUT THERE DEALING WITH INVESTIGATIONS IN TERMS OF INCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN SCHOOLS, FOLLOWING UP WITH THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, AND THE PUSH THAT THE REASON WHY WE EVEN BROUGHT IT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
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GOOD LORD. EARLIER IN THE YEAR OR PRIOR TO THAT WAS WHAT WE WERE DEALING WITH WITH REGARDS TO PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES IN SCHOOL AREAS, KIDS BEING HIT BY VEHICLES AND SPEEDING.BUT IT WASN'T REALLY DOING ITS FUNCTION WITH REGARDS TO THAT BEING USED IN LIEU OF NOT HAVING OFFICERS OUT THERE PATROLLING AND, YOU KNOW, ENFORCING SPEED VIOLATORS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S IT'S AN ADDED TOOL, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
RIGHT. SO AS WE KNOW, WE CAN'T BE EVERYWHERE AT ONCE.
WE HAVE A CITY THAT'S THE SIZE OF 80 TO 90 SQUARE SQUARE MILES.
A LOT OF ROADWAYS IN PALM BAY.
SO IT DOES HELP US MANAGE THOSE ISSUES WITH REGARD TO THE VIOLATORS.
AND THERE ARE VIOLATORS THERE.
JUST HAD ONE THAT WE WE WERE SPEAKING WITH EARLIER TODAY ABOUT WITH REGARDS TO IT.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE SAFETY OF THE KIDS THAT ARE CROSSING THE STREETS.
BUT DRIVERS AREN'T. THEY'RE NOT DRIVING THE WAY WE'RE DRIVING.
SHOULD BE DRIVING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY.
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. WE SEE IT ON 95.
I KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT ELEMENT, BUT IT'S THE SAME THING APPLIES IN OUR SCHOOL ZONES.
IT SLOWS THEM DOWN. THEY WON'T BE DOING IT AGAIN.
THAT'S SOMETHING FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT.
I KNOW THERE WAS A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED.
SO THERE'S SOME OTHER ISSUES THERE THAT ARE OUTSIDE MY PURVIEW THAT WOULD NEED TO GET DISCUSSED.
BUT WITH REGARDS TO OTHER USES OF IT.
THEY HELP WITH PROTECTING OUR CITIZENS.
HOMICIDE INVESTIGATOR OR HOMICIDE? HOMICIDE SUSPECTS.
SO, SO THOSE SPEED CAMERAS AS WELL WILL ALSO BE A BENEFIT IN THAT FACTOR.
WE CAN USE THAT AS AN INVESTIGATIVE ELEMENT AS WELL.
SO IT ISN'T BIG BROTHER TO NOT BEING CONSTANTLY MONITORED.
THAT'S THE ONE DISCLAIMER THAT OUR MISNOMER THAT'S OUT THERE.
BUT FOR ME, THE BIGGEST THING, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHAT I PRESENTED IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME WAS THE SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL HAS BEEN A PROBLEM. AND WE HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATES IN THE COUNTY.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I WAS PRESENTED.
IT'S WE DO NEED TO PROTECT OUR KIDS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN.
TO DO THAT. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, IS THAT IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
BUT THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT BETWEEN KIND OF A POLE WITH A CAMERA ON IT.
GET CONVINCING PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN, VERSUS WHEN YOU HAVE AN OFFICER OUT THERE WITH THE LIGHTS ON.
RIGHT. AND THE GOAL IS NOT TO GET MONEY OUT OF PEOPLE.
THE GOAL IS TO GET THEM TO SLOW DOWN AND PROTECT OUR KIDS.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT WE NEED MORE OFFICERS.
AND SO THIS MIGHT BE A CATALYST TO TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO AND IF THAT MEANS WE NEED TO GET YOU MORE.
I DO THINK IT IS JUST A STEP TOO FAR.
I'M NOT GOING TO TOUCH THE THE OTHER CAMERAS.
BUT THE SCHOOL ZONE CAMERAS, I THINK, IS A STEP TOO FAR IN THE SURVEILLANCE STATE, AND I DON'T THINK IT REALLY ACCOMPLISHES THE MISSION THE SAME WAY THAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO JUST HIRE SOME MORE POLICE OFFICERS AND GIVE CHIEF WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO THE JOB, THEN WE COULD, I THINK, ACCOMPLISH THAT MORE EFFECTIVELY.
CHIEF, IF YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
NO, SIR. OKAY, WELL, HOW HOW LONG HAVE WE HAD THOSE CAMERAS INSTALLED? SINCE SEPTEMBER.
WELL, NOVEMBER, WE HAD TWO LOCATIONS THAT WENT LIVE.
OKAY. THE REASON WHY THERE'S BEEN A SLIGHT DELAY WAS BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE.
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SO THEY'RE UP AND THEY'RE UP AT THE LOCATIONS, THE SIX, THE OTHER 14 LOCATIONS.WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR FPL TO COME OUT THERE AND HOOK THEM UP AND CONNECT THEM SO THEY CAN GO LIVE.
OKAY. WHICH IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
YEAH. OKAY. I FORGOT ONE THING, TOO.
WE WANT OFFICERS IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL, PARTICULARLY DURING DROP OFF AND PICKUP, NOT JUST TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN, BUT AS A HARDENING FOR THINGS LIKE SCHOOL SHOOTERS AND THREATS TO THE ACTUAL SCHOOL. 100%.
SO AND CHIEF UNDERSTANDS THAT AND I'M MOSTLY TALKING TO COUNCIL BUT AND SO WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THESE TO SAY, WELL, WE'VE GOT A CAMERA AND THAT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF THE SPEEDING TO SOME EXTENT.
I WANT TO HAVE AN OFFICER IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICK UP BEING THERE TO PROTECT THE SCHOOL, BUT IF WE'RE DOING THAT, WHY DO WE NEED CAMERAS? BECAUSE THEN THE OFFICER COULD ALSO RUN TRAFFIC OR JUST BE A PRESENCE WHERE PEOPLE WILL SLOW DOWN.
SO THEN IS SO THEN WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE TICKETING PEOPLE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OFFICER THERE ANYWAYS TO PROTECT THE SCHOOL FROM THINGS LIKE A SCHOOL SHOOTING AND THREATS THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SLOW DOWN.
SO THE SCHOOL ZONES AND WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE INSTALLED AREN'T NECESSARILY IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL.
RIGHT. SO AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU SIR.
YES I WANT COPS OUT IN FRONT OF SCHOOL FOR SECURITY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THE CAMERAS THAT ARE WHERE THEY'RE INSTALLED AT ARE INSTALLED.
IN FACT, NOT MANY OF THEM ARE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOL OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL.
IT'S ENCOMPASSING THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR OF WHERE THAT SCHOOL ZONE STARTS.
AND WHEN THE SIGN SAYS SCHOOL END, SCHOOL ZONE ENDS.
SO SOMETIMES YOU'RE LOOKING AT A HALF A MILE.
ALL RIGHT. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR YOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF? YES. SO SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT I WANT TO DO WITH THIS COUNCIL REPORT IS JUST, IS JUST KIND OF PULL THE COUNCIL TO SEE IF WE WOULD WANT TO PUT THIS FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE ON THE ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
SEE WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIKE.
AND IF COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO KEEP THE CAMERAS, YOU CAN DENY THE ORDINANCE.
BUT I JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
OKAY. SO FIRST OF ALL, UNDER REPORTS, RIGHT.
IF COUNCIL HAS AN APPETITE TO REMOVE THOSE SCHOOL ZONES, WHICH WE ALREADY APPROVED A FEW WEEKS AGO OR A FEW MONTHS AGO JUST INDICATE BY GIVING THIS A THUMBS UP.
OTHERWISE, WE'LL JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. BARBER BEFORE WE DO THAT, BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY WE'RE UNDER A CONTRACT, SO.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE A THAT WOULD BE A LEGAL QUESTION.
OKAY. YES, SIR. ARE WE UNDER SOME KIND OF CONTRACT FOR THIS? TO WHERE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, OTHER THAN TO KEEP IT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? WE DID SIGN AN AGREEMENT.
WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
RIGHT. BECAUSE THERE'S A CAVEAT WHEN YOU GUYS APPROVE THAT, I BELIEVE.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S MAINTAINED BY A THIRD PARTY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
SO THE THIRD PARTY WE'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH? YEAH, YEAH, WE SIGNED A PIGGYBACK AGREEMENT WHERE WE'RE GETTING THE THE EQUIPMENT FROM, BUT IT'S THE STATE OF GEORGIA.
AND THEN WHEN DID THE CONTRACT START? IF WE ALREADY HAD SOME THAT ROLLED OUT IN NOVEMBER.
BUT THEN WE HAD DELAYS WITH THE HURRICANES.
DID IT START WHEN THE FIRST CAMERAS GOT PLACED IN? SO AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO RECALL, BUT IT'S AN ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION.
AND THE EQUIPMENT, THE PURCHASE OF THE EQUIPMENT WAS OFF THE CONTRACT.
BUT FOR THE EQUIPMENT ITSELF WAS ON THE STATE OF GEORGIA CONTRACT.
IS THERE I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY HELP OUR CHILDREN, AND IT'S A TOOL TO PROTECT AND SOLVE CRIME.
SO THAT THAT'S WHY I HAD VOTED FOR THIS.
I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IT WILL CHANGE PATTERNS OF BEHAVIOR.
I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE THE THE STATE, BUT THE FOG CAMERAS ARE DOING THE SAME THING.
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ONLY THIS IS AT NO COST TO THE CITY.I DON'T I WON'T BE GIVING YOU A THUMBS UP ON THIS, BUT BY THUMBS UP.
HE'S, I GOT A THUMBS DOWN HERE.
ALL I NEED IS A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN.
NO. WHICH ONE MEANS WHICH THUMBS DOWN MEANS THAT THUMBS UP THAT YOU WANT TO PURSUE CHANGING.
I'M GOOD. OKAY, SO THE CONSENT DISCUSSION AFTER THE CONTRACT IS OVER.
BUT YEAH, THERE IS NO APPETITE FOR THAT, RIGHT? OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO GO INTO THE REST OF MY COUNCIL REPORT.
SO AND IT KIND OF CAME UP A LITTLE BIT DURING NEW BUSINESS, BUT WITH THIS NEW COUNCIL AND WITH THE NEW CITY MANAGER, I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE JUST RECENTLY THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE COMP PLAN AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ELECTIONS ARE WHEN THEY ARE.
WHY DOES OUR COMP PLAN ALLOW STORAGE UNITS TO BE IN MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THROUGH BAYSIDE? SO INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE COME UP AND HAVING TO DENY THEM.
WE SHOULD READJUST OUR COMP PLAN.
WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT OUR DENSITY.
AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT, MAYOR.
I COUNCILMAN JOHNSON BROUGHT UP THE MARINE RESOURCE COUNCIL IN THE BUILDINGS.
THAT WAS ALSO ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO BRING UP EVENTUALLY.
SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR ANYTHING ABOUT IT TONIGHT.
SO WE HAD A WORKSHOP THE OTHER NIGHT.
WE TALKED ABOUT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS.
REALLY THE DIRECTION WAS WHAT OR REALLY THE THE POINT OF THE WORKSHOP WAS, ARE ARE WE GOING TO GET SUED? DO WE HAVE A THING IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH A PLAN IN PLACE TO DEAL WITH HB 1365? WE ENDED UP TALKING A LOT ABOUT OTHER STUFF AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS IS WE NEED TO I WANT CLEAR DIRECTION FROM THIS COUNCIL, FROM THIS NEW COUNCIL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER FOR FOR CHIEF IN THE BACK ON HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE THE SECTION OF THE HOMELESSNESS THAT IS A CRIMINAL ELEMENT.
IT'S NOT JUST PEOPLE WITH A HARD WARRANT.
AND SO PERSONALLY, I WANT TO GIVE CHIEF DIRECTION TO IT.
BE PROACTIVE ON THIS, TO BE ABLE TO TREAT THEM LIKE CRIMINALS BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY'RE TRESPASSING.
THEY'RE VIOLATING PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS.
AND GIVE HIM DIRECTION TO SAY WE FULLY SUPPORT YOU, GO FORWARD AND ARREST THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER CITIES, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND YET FROM THE PAST, BUT THERE'S OTHER CITIES WHO SAY, DON'T TREAT THEM LIKE CRIMINALS.
WE NEED TO TREAT THEM LIKE THIS OR THAT.
IF THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW, WE NEED TO TREAT THEM LIKE CRIMINALS.
SO, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, I DON'T DOUBT THAT THE CHIEF IS ISN'T PROSECUTING THESE GUYS OR NOT PROSECUTING, BUT ARRESTING THEM, I DON'T SEE WHERE.
SO SOME OF THE ISSUES, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT I COULD NOT STAND.
STAND FAST. THE ONE THAT GIVES DIRECTION TO OUR EMPLOYEES IS THE CITY MANAGER.
AND THAT'S ALWAYS GOT TO BE CLEAR.
THAT'S THAT'S THE CITY MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
SO I WANT TO I WANT TO RESPECT AND HONOR THAT.
RIGHT. SO IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD, IN HONORING THAT, I THINK WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE ASKED OR THE PROPER QUESTION MAY BE, ARE WE NOT ARE WE NOT ARE MAKING THOSE ARRESTS? WHAT EFFORTS ARE WE DOING? I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
ASKED AND I'LL ASK THE CITY MANAGER.
IF WE COULD ALLOW THE CHIEF TO COME BACK UP.
CORRECT. SO SO IF WE DO, OUR OFFICERS DO COME INTO CONTACT WITH, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE HOMELESSNESS, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE PANHANDLING, THAT ARE HANGING OUT IN THE PARKS, THAT ARE DOING WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, IF THEY ARE BREAKING THE LAW, WE'RE ENFORCING THE LAW.
THERE'S NO EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.
YOU KNOW, IF IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL THAT'S OUT ON THEIR LUCK AND THEY'RE HOMELESS, THEY'RE NOT REALLY THEY'RE NOT ENGAGING IN ANY CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OTHER THAN BEING OUT THERE, MAYBE AFTER HOURS. YOU KNOW, WE DO TRY TO PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME ASSISTANCE, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I MENTIONED THE OTHER DAY AT THE WORKSHOP, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WE DO FOLLOW THAT OUR FOLKS DO FOLLOW IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE WITH SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WERE HERE THAT NIGHT THAT WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WITH.
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BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY'RE VIOLATING AND BREAKING THE LAW, WE'RE ARRESTING THEM.SO I WANT TO FOLLOW UP IN HONOR OF WHAT COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN SAID.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DIRECT OUR CITY MANAGER TO HAVE YOU OR EQUIP YOU AND YOUR TEAM? BETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE OUT THERE ENFORCING THE LAW? SIR RESPECTFULLY, NO, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR ORDERS.
OUR MARCHING ORDERS, YOU KNOW, IS ENFORCE THE LAWS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THANK YOU. SO, WHILE I'VE GOT THE CHIEF, STAY RIGHT THERE.
SO WE JUST TALKED. WE JUST SAID BASICALLY YOU KNOW, PARKS, YOU SAID PARKS AND OUT IN THE PUBLIC.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, SO WE DO HAVE MECHANISMS AND TOOLS AND RESOURCES OUT THERE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES, THE PRIVATE LOTS, YOU KNOW, WE, OUR OFFICERS, OUR COMMUNITY RESOURCE UNITS AND OUR PATROL OFFICERS, WE DO REACH OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT WE CAN GET AHOLD OF THEM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE IF WE'RE ABLE TO CONTACT THEM.
AND IT'S WHAT WE CALL A BLANKET TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT, RIGHT? IT GIVES US, AS AN AGENT OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER TO GO ON TO THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT HAVING TO CALL THEM.
IF A LAW IS BEING BROKEN IN OUR IN OUR IN OUR PRESENCE.
BUT IT DOES GIVE US THAT EXTRA MECHANISM IN TERMS OF WITH THE STATE, WITH THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PROVIDE US THAT EXTRA STRENGTH AND THAT RESOURCE TO SAY THAT WE ARE AN AGENT OF THIS PROPERTY OWNER.
WE'RE ALLOWED TO COME ON THERE AS AN AGENT AND ENFORCE THE TRESPASS AFFIDAVIT, AND THEREFORE GIVES US ANOTHER REASON TO BE IN THERE TO INVESTIGATE FURTHER CRIMES AND FOR FURTHER ELEMENTS OF THE CRIME.
I JUST WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE, BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A BUNCH OF THINGS TWO NIGHTS AGO, AND WE GAVE AND THERE'S A LOT TO DEAL WITH HOMELESSNESS, AND THAT I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT GOT TOUCHED ENOUGH.
HAVING ENDED THE MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO I WANTED TO BRING THAT UP AGAIN.
BUT I'M I'M SATISFIED WITH THOSE ANSWERS.
AND THEN MY MY LAST THING IS ON MY COUNCIL REPORT.
MY LAST THING IS IT CAN WE RAISE THE ROOM TEMPERATURE IN HERE FOR FUTURE MEETINGS? IT'S A LITTLE COLD.
WELL, BROTHER, BRING A SWEATER, BECAUSE I'M COMFORTABLE.
OH. IS IT, IS IT MAYOR'S DISCRETION? ALL RIGHT, MY BAD. WE CAN CONTINUE.
YEAH. I'LL GO IN THE BACK AND DO PUSH UPS EVERY.
EVERY HOUR, THEN. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
COUNCILMAN HAMMOND, I'M GOING TO MAKE MINE SHORT AND SWEET.
I WAS TASKED WITH WITH COMING UP WITH THE GUIDELINES FOR THE FOR THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.
I HAVE CAME UP WITH THOSE GUIDELINES THIS WEEK.
I WILL BE SUBMITTING THEM TO TO CITY MANAGER MORGAN.
WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS ON THAT TO TO PUSH IT BACK.
AND I'M PLANNING ON HAVING IT HERE FOR OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
SECONDLY, I'VE HAD 3 TO 5 PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT SOME OF THE FIXES REPUBLIC WASTE HAS DONE.
A FEW PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT THEY'VE CAME BY AND THEY HAVE CLEANED UP THEIR ROADS SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK CITY MANAGER MORGAN FOR FOR STEPPING UP ON HIS VERY FIRST DAY AND DELIVERING A LETTER BY HAND TO THEM. I'M, I'M I WAS I WAS THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED.
AND THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE? THANK YOU. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, COUNCILMAN HAMMER.
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? YES, MAYOR.
LARRY WOJCIECHOWSKI CAN UPDATE THIS COUNCIL WITH THAT, BUT SOME SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS NOW THAT THEY'VE COLLECTED THIS MONEY.
AND I KNOW YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BEFORE, BUT NOW WE GOT NEW COUNCIL.
NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE GOT NEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
YEP. AND WE HAVE REPRESENTATIONS WITH THREE AND FIVE.
YES, SIR. RIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS UP TO SPEED WITH THE PARKS REFERENDUM FROM YEARS AGO, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT OUR OUR CITIZENS ARE PAYING FOR THAT.
SO IF WE COULD I THINK SO FAR WE GOT CONSENSUS FOR THAT.
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THAT. BUT WE'LL FIND OUT.ALL RIGHT. IT'S LIKE 1.5 MIL FROM THAT PARK REFERENDUM A YEAR THAT WE COULD USE FOR THE PARKS THAT WE GOT FROM THE THE COUNTY.
NOW THAT WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL, I BROUGHT IT UP PRIOR, BUT THE TIMING.
I AGREE, MAYOR, YOU WERE LIKE, LET'S LET'S HOLD OFF ON THAT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE COUNCIL'S, YOU KNOW, APPETITE FOR GOING BACK TO PARKS AND RECREATION.
OKAY, I'LL. I'LL GIVE ME A THUMBS UP.
ALL RIGHT, SO YOU GOT CONSENSUS THERE.
SO GOING BACK, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION GOING BACK TO PARKS AND RECREATION, WHERE THE MAINTENANCE AND ALL THAT WOULD BE JUST PARKS AND REC. IS THAT UNDERSTOOD? IS THAT WHAT? YES. THIS IS.
YES, SIR. AND THEN BRING BACK TO COUNCIL.
WHATEVER. EXPLORE THAT POSSIBILITY.
YES, SIR. SECOND THING BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT THIS, WHERE ARE WE WITH FPNL PUTTING.
THIRD THING. WHERE ARE WE WITH FPNL? PUTTING ALL THE LINES UNDERGROUND.
THIS IS SOMETHING FROM MY FIRST TERM.
THAT WAS BACK WHEN WE HAD BART AND SPEAKING BEFORE US, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT NOW.
THEY JUST SKIPPED MY NEIGHBORHOOD SOUTHWEST.
OKAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW OF STATUS TO REPORT.
MAYBE WE COULD GET A STATUS UPDATE.
YEAH, FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR NEXT YEAR.
OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S AN FPL TASK, RIGHT? NOT A CITY OF PALM BAY TASK, RIGHT.
BUT I MEAN, HISTORICALLY, THEY'VE BEEN VERY UPFRONT ABOUT STATING THEIR POLICIES, AND SO I WOULD SUSPECT THEY WOULD COME TO A FUTURE MEETING AND PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD AN UPDATE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS SINCE BART RETIRED.
BUT MICHELLE'S JUST BEEN SENDING US.
SO THE LAST THING HE RETIRED ON THE SAME DAY I DID.
OH, WOW. HE'S MY RETIREMENT TWIN.
OKAY, WELL, WELL, NOT ANYMORE, BUDDY.
I WON'T SAY ISSUES. I'LL SAY CONCERNS WITH CHANGE ORDERS.
IF WE CAN LOOK INTO DESIGN BUILD AS A CONCEPT MOVING FORWARD.
AFTER THAT, I'M DONE. MAYOR DESIGN BUILD MEANING FOR OUR ROADS BECAUSE THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH OUR ROADS THAT I'VE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, MENTIONED WELL FOR, FOR EVERYTHING, FOR ROADS, FOR BUILDINGS, FOR ANY, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO.
SO THAT WAY WE'RE, WE'RE MORE IN CONTROL.
AND NOTHING CAN TRY TO GET FLOWN BY US AS A STAFF OR AS A COUNCIL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF MR. BARBER JUST WALKED IN OR IF, HOWEVER, HOWEVER, WE WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION, THAT'S THE LAST THING, AND I'LL BE QUIET.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE WE COULD DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THAT.
WHAT WHAT PATH DO WE WANT TO GO? AND THAT'S A PERFECTLY GREAT PATH AND IN THE RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCE.
AND SO I'M PRESUMING AS A MATTER OF COURSE, WE PROBABLY LOOK AT THAT OPTION.
THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT CONVERSATION, GENTLEMEN.
DEPUTY MAYOR, YOU GOT FIVE ON THE LIST.
25? TWO ITEMS. TWO ITEMS. ALL RIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO APPOINT HENRY MORAN TO THE SPACE COAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.
FOLLOWING THE HOMELESSNESS WORKSHOP, I MELBOURNE DEPUTY MAYOR HAD REACHED OUT TO ME INDICATING SOME COLLABORATION THAT MELBOURNE IS INTERESTED IN COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
THEIR CITY MANAGER WOULD AND HIM HIMSELF ARE INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM US.
AND I BELIEVE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME MEETINGS IN THE PAST WITH MISS SHERMAN.
BUT LIKE TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, GET CONSENSUS TO ALLOW MR. MORGAN TO RESTART THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY OF MELBOURNE.
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AND WHAT KIND OF PARTNERSHIP IS THERE ANY MORE DETAILS YOU COULD GIVE US? OR I IMAGINE IT HAS TO BE IN RELATION TO A SHELTER AND SHARED RESOURCES, BUT I, I DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION OTHER THAN THAT.OKAY. I CAN'T CLEARLY IT'S THE LAST MEETING THE COUNCIL GAVE SOME PRETTY CLEAR DIRECTION ABOUT A STAND DOWN OR AS IT MAY BE NAMED OTHERWISE. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GOING TO DO, AS A MATTER OF COURSE, WAS CONTACT MY COLLEAGUE AT THE CITY OF MELBOURNE AND SEE IF THEY MIGHT HAVE A SPACE THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.
I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. EVERYBODY'S GOOD.
YES, SIR. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? IT DOES. ALL RIGHT, SO, MAYOR, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, I APOLOGIZE.
PHIL WEINBERG, I'M APPOINTING YOU TO THE SPACE COAST TPO CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I APOLOGIZE, SIR. AND I ALREADY SAID ABOUT LOGAN LEWIS RIGHT ON THAT OTHER ONE.
SO. ALRIGHT, SO I'LL START MY REPORTS BY BY LETTING EVERYONE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE VERY FIRST CONGRESSIONAL STAFFERS THAT LIVED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS PASSED.
AND IF YOU ASK ME, TED MOREHEAD WAS HIS LEGENDARY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR LAGOON.
HE WAS WAY AHEAD OF THE CURVE.
HE WAS ACTUALLY OUR LAGOON HOUSE IS NAMED AFTER TED MOREHEAD.
SO COUNCIL, HE NOT ONLY IS HE LEGENDARY, BUT I REMEMBER HAVING DISCUSSIONS AND HIM COMING EVEN BEFORE COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT OUR ESTUARY WAS.
OUR LAGOON, INDIAN RIVER LAGOON WAY BEFORE YOU KNOW, WARNING US ABOUT THE CONTAMINANTS THAT WE WERE PUTTING IN OUR ON OUR GRASS TO GET IT GREENER, HOW IT'S RUINING OUR LAGOON.
AND TO THAT EFFORT, I THINK WE NEED TO PAY HIM HONOR FOR WHAT HE DID AND HAS DONE FOR OUR LAGOON.
WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO REPLACE AND DO SOMETHING, REALLY, TO UPKEEP AND HONOR HIS NAME AND HIS LEGACY ON THAT INDIAN RIVER LAGOON. AND HIS FUNERAL IS THIS SUNDAY AT 1300 HOURS, 1:00.
THEN I ALSO WANTED TO INVITE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO THE FAMILY CHRISTMAS MISS EXTRAVAGANZA, WHERE EVERYTHING IS F R W E F R W E FREE AND YOU'RE ALL WELCOME.
BRING YOUR KIDS. MAYBE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO WIN ONE OF THE 86 INCH TVS THAT THEY'LL BE GIVING AWAY.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE ONE OF OUR VERY OWN DEPUTY CHIEF JEFF SPEARS.
JUST GRADUATED FROM THE FBI ACADEMY.
WAY TO GO, MR. SPEARS. DEPUTY CHIEF.
I THINK YOU RAN, WHAT, 45 MILES, SIR? MAYBE. DID I EXPOUND ON THAT? A LITTLE BIT LIKE A FISHING STORY.
YOU WERE GONE FOR HOW MANY WEEKS, SIR? 11. 11 WEEKS AWAY FROM HIS FAMILY, GUYS.
AND SUCCESSFULLY GRADUATED FBI ACADEMY.
KUDOS TO YOU. AND THEN I'LL CONCLUDE WITH THIS.
HAVE YOURSELF A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT, MR. MORGAN. CAN'T TOP THAT, SIR.
DID YOU DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
SORRY. THE OTHER ONE? PROBABLY LAST PAGE.
YEAH, WELL, I'M OLD, BUT I'M SLOW.
THIS IS FOR MORGAN TO ANNOUNCE THE FOLLOWING.
AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, DANIEL GROSS AND JOAN BROWN WERE APPOINTED TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, RESPECTIVELY. HOWEVER, ONLY ONE STAFF MEMBER CAN SIT ON BOTH BOARDS.
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WHO'S. WHO'S DRAWING THE LONG STRAW OR THE SHORT STRAW? NEED TO FLIP A COIN. YOU WANT JOAN? SERVE ON BOTH BOARDS.OKAY. THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THE WHOLE THREE MINUTES. THANK THANK YOU, SIR.
I ACTUALLY HAVE NO COMMENTS THAT.
YES, YOU DO, SIR. NO, THE INFORMATION IS NOT FULLY COMPLETE.
AND THAT WILL BE PRESENTED AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
OKAY, SO THAT EXECUTIVE SESSION IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
NO NO, NO NO IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
IT'S SCHEDULED FOR THE 16TH, BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED THE FULL ROSTER OF WHO'S GOING TO ATTEND.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
I HAVE A CARD. OKAY.AND THEN AFTER LOGAN LUCE, I GOT MASTER CHIEF AND PASTOR MARK MILLER AND THEN BUTCH HURON.
LUCE. 4517 KATHLEEN CIRCLE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
SO IT'S AN HONOR TO BE AT ONE OF THE LAST PUBLIC ENDING COMMENTS.
HAD TO DO THE BILL BATTEN ORDEAL.
I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR NOT DISSOLVING THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.
I THINK I CAN SAY THAT IT WAS AN AGENDA ITEM.
I THINK THE 100% CLEAN ENERGY UNATTAINABLE.
THE LAST MEETING EVEN TALKED ABOUT DOING SMART GOALS.
LIKE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO X, Y, AND Z.
LET'S NOT PUT IT IN THE ACTION PLAN, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU DON'T, IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO APPROVE IT.
SO AN OPEN LINE, OPEN DIALOG, ANYTHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE IN THERE.
SO UNDERSTOOD ABOUT THE 100% CLEAN ENERGY.
SOMETHING I HAD A PROBLEM WITH. I DRIVE A JEEP WRANGLER.
SO OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT A NITRO OR THAT KIND OF STUFF.
DO YOU LIKE NUCLEAR ENERGY? MAYBE WE CAN GET A NUCLEAR PLANT HERE, BUT JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHIEF. CHIEF.
BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
FIRST ONE MAYOR, I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO YOU, BUT THIS IS RELATED TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.
I WAS VERY HAPPY TO SEE THE WAY YOU RECOGNIZED YOUR FATHER.
IT MADE ME FEEL VERY, VERY GOOD.
VERY WARM FEELING CAME UP WITHIN AND I MEAN GOOD JOB.
I'VE SEEN A LOT OF FLAGS GIVEN OUT AND YOURS HIT YOURS HIT THE MARK FOR STRIKING IN THE SOUL.
THAT'S. THAT'S THE BEST WAY I CAN SAY THAT.
NOW. YOUR DAD HAS ALWAYS IMPRESSED ME.
I'VE TALKED WITH HIM SEVERAL TIMES, AND HE'S JUST.
I THINK YOU MADE A VERY GOOD CHOICE ON WHO IS RECEIVING.
WHO SHOULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVING OF A FLAG FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I WAS NOT REAL HAPPY WITH HOW YOU GUYS VOTED ON CHANGING OUR OUR AGENDAS PACKET AND HOW IT WORKS OUT, BUT IT'S THE CITY'S AGENDA PACKET.
AND I PROMISE YOU, BILL BATTEN, BEING THE PERSON THAT HE IS, I CAN TALK FOR THREE MINUTES ON EVERY SINGLE ITEM JUST TO SHOW MY DISAPPOINTMENT WITH HOW YOU VOTED.
AND I WILL STILL BE WITHIN MY LEGAL RIGHTS TO DO SUCH.
AND I STILL HAVE ONE MINUTE AND 36 SECONDS TO GO, AND I CAN REPEAT MY SAME STATEMENT, AND I CAN DO THAT ON EVERY SINGLE ITEM TO MAKE SURE THAT MY COUNCIL KNOWS WHO BILL BATTEN IS.
THANK YOU. PASTOR MARK MILLER.
MARK MILLER, 898 NELSON AVENUE.
SORRY, I HAD A PRIOR COMMITMENT.
I HAD 20 PEOPLE WAITING ON ME.
I RUSHED THROUGH THAT TO HURRY UP AND COME BACK.
AND I JUST MISSED THE DISCUSSION ON YOUR APPOINTMENT NUMBER SEVEN.
BUT WHY DO YOU GUYS KNOW ME AS PASTOR? YOU KNOW, I LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I SPENT 25 YEARS EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP IN AEROSPACE HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS BEFORE RETIRING TO GO FULL TIME MINISTRY IN JULY.
RIGHT AFTER THAT, MANY YEARS IN AEROSPACE.
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THEY HELP TO BUILD TRUST.ALL RIGHT. EVEN THE HOMELESS COALITION MEETING THAT WE JUST HAD, HOMELESS TASK FORCE MEETING, I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS CALLED, BUT WE JUST HAD THIS WEEK, RIGHT? THERE WAS SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION THAT CAME OUT OF THAT.
SO FOR ME, THE MEETINGS AND THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE IS IMPORTANT.
WHILE I LOVE BEING HERE WITH YOU GUYS IN PERSON.
ALRIGHT. BEING ABLE TO SHAKE YOUR HAND AND MAKE EYE CONTACT.
I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE A GOOD CITIZEN OF PALM BAY.
AND I WANT TO HAVE A VOICE OTHER THAN JUST CASTING MY BALLOT ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS.
OTHERWISE, I JUST SIT AT HOME AND WATCH IT RIGHT FROM THE COMFORT OF MY LIVING ROOM.
SO I TOO AM REALLY DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS SECOND PUBLIC SPEAKING IS ELIMINATED, BECAUSE YOU JUST REDUCED MY ABILITY TO ADDRESS IN A PUBLIC SETTING WHERE IT'S RECORDED PUBLICLY FOR OTHERS TO HEAR BY 50%.
WHAT CAN THE CHURCH DO? WHAT CAN I DO WITH ALL MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE? HOW CAN I HELP BASED ON THE NEEDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED DURING THE SESSION? MAYBE WITH YOU GUYS, OR MAYBE WITH SOMEBODY WHO IS HERE WATCHING? AND SO I FEEL LIKE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AT THE END AND OFFER HELP PUBLICLY HAS JUST BEEN JUST BEEN TAKEN AWAY.
I REALIZE IT'S ALREADY BEEN TAKEN.
I GET IT, AND I WANT TO CLOSE WITH THIS, AND I REALLY MEAN IT WITH THE SINCERITY OF MY HEART.
I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
I AM REALLY THANKFUL AND I LOVE WHAT I AM SEEING.
I HAVE ZERO DOUBT FOR YOUR COMMITMENT AND YOUR DEDICATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS CITY, SO THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT IN QUESTION FROM MY POINT THAT I'M MAKING. I'M JUST DISAPPOINTED THAT I JUST LOST 50% OF MY OPPORTUNITY TO FREELY ADDRESS YOU IN PUBLIC.
BE BLESSED. MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR, AND THANK YOU.
THAT'S YOU SIR. PUT YOUR ARM THROUGH 19 TRENTON AVENUE. I OFFERED BILL THE CHANCE TO BE THE LAST THREE MINUTE GUY, BUT HE TURNED IT DOWN.
GOING BACK TO SHORTENING THE MEETINGS, POSSIBLY.
IF YOU HAVE A LARGE GROUP COMING IN, HAVE THAT GROUP HAVE A SPOKESPERSON THAT BRINGS ALL THEIR COMPLAINTS UP, INSTEAD OF 45 PEOPLE SAYING, WE DON'T WANT THIS, WE DON'T WANT THAT.
THE OTHER THING THE CITY IS 64 YEARS OLD IS WHAT IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD? YEAH, WE'LL BE 65 QUALIFY FOR MEDICARE NEXT MONTH.
NO, BUT WE HAVE NO HISTORY OF PALM BAY.
THERE'S NO OFFICE OR ANYWHERE YOU CAN GO AND FIND OUT.
WELL, WHAT HAPPENED HERE IN 1967 OR WHATEVER YEAR YOU WANT TO LOOK IT UP.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL, MAYBE A COMMITTEE.
AND YOU COULD GATHER THE, THE THE HISTORY OF THE CITY AND I'M SURE WE GOT A VERY GOOD HISTORY.
WE ALSO HAVE A LITTLE SHADOWED HISTORY TOO, BUT BOTH OF THEM WOULD BE GOOD STORIES.
AND THE FINAL THING IS, YOU GUYS STARTED THE COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS AT 942.
YOU CAN CHECK OUT HOW MUCH TIME YOU USED.
THANK YOU. AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
OKAY. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF YOU.
I BELIEVE THE COUNTY HAD A HISTORICAL SOCIETY, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT IT'S SUPPOSED TO ENCOMPASS THE WHOLE COUNTY, BUT THAT BEING SAID, ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, THIS MEETING IS OVER.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. YOU'RE WELCOME.
GOOD NIGHT. MY.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.