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ALL RIGHT. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER.
REGULAR MEETING 2025 01 OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
MR.. GOOD, WOULD YOU DO US THE HONOR OF LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? CERTAINLY. PLEASE STAND.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES. MR. GOODE. PRESENT.
MR. MCLEOD HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED.
OUR SCHOOL BOARD APPOINTEE POSITION IS STILL VACANT.
AND CHIEF DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ IS PRESENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM REGULAR MEETING 2020 4-0 12.
[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]
SO MOVED. SECOND.ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. KARAFFA, SECONDED BY MR. WARNER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? I AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANTS IN THE AUDIENCE.THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD COMPRISED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT. THE MEETING PROCEDURES WILL BE AS FOLLOWS.
THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.
BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE WILL HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION FIRST AND THEN THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'LL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.
AT THIS TIME, THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE WILL BE HEARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND FOR YOUR COOPERATION IN ADHERING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.
MR. CHAIR, PRIOR TO COMMENCING, ITEMS TWO AND THREE ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE.
SO WE MAY PROCEED. THANK YOU SIR.
MAY I TAKE A MOMENT UNDER ANNOUNCEMENTS, PLEASE? PLEASE DO. OKAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO INTRODUCE SOME NEW FACES IN OUR STAFF.
I KNOW THE CHAIR CHAIRMAN HAS ALREADY INTRODUCED HIMSELF.
THANK YOU. SO SITTING IN THE BACK CORNER THERE IS MICHAEL HUSHIN.
AS IN RUSSIAN, BECAUSE IT'S SPELLED FUNNY.
HE HAD TO GIVE ME THAT, THAT NAME, THAT, THAT PHONETIC USE OF IT.
MICHAEL IS OUR BRAND NEW ENGINEER, ONE PLANNER.
SO WE HAVE ADDED THAT INTO OUR STAFF, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL GAP FILL FOR OUR TEAM.
HERE TO THE LEFT OF ME IS DEBBIE FLYNN.
SHE IS A SENIOR PLANNER WITH OUR OFFICE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HER AT THE LAST MEETING.
SHE HAS BECOME ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN MOST OF OUR LONG RANGE PLANNING PROJECTS.
AND THEN TO HER RIGHT IS CHRISTINA HALL, AND SHE IS A PLANNER WITH OUR OFFICE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THEM AND KIM AND TANYA AND ALTHEA ARE STILL AROUND.
THEY'RE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, SO THEY WERE EXCUSED.
BUT YOU WILL BE SEEING ALL OF THESE FACES IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
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2400012. AND I WILL DEFER TO MISS FLYNN.YES. GOOD EVENING P AND Z BOARD.
MY NAME IS DEBBIE FLYNN, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM THE FROM COMMERCIAL TO INDUSTRIAL TO ALLOW FOR INDUSTRIAL FLEX SPACE DEVELOPMENT TO BE CALLED YP HOLDINGS BUSINESS PARK ON A 2.14 ACRE SITE.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF CLAREMONT STREET AND FRANKLIN DRIVE, WHICH IS WITHIN PORT MALABAR INDUSTRIAL PARK SUBDIVISION. TO THE NORTH IS A SMALL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURING PLANT AND TO THE SOUTH IS L3 HARRIS, AND TO THE EAST IS BREVARD COUNTY RETENTION POND, AND TO THE WEST IS FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT.
YEAH. THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS TO CREATE AREAS ACCOMMODATING INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY IN OTHER SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYMENT GENERATING USES.
THE MAXIMUM INTENSITY PERMITTED BY THE FUTURE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IS THE CLASSIFICATION OF 5.0.
ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2024, THE APPLICANT HELD A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING, WHICH IS REQUIRED PER OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AT THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS AND SUITES ON MALABAR ROAD. THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT REQUIRE CONSIDERATIONS OF FACTORS OF ANALYSIS WHICH WERE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, POLICY FLEW 1.3 B.
PUBLIC SEWER AND WATER SYSTEMS ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE.
IN CONNECTION WILL BE REQUIRED.
PUBLIC TRANSIT IS ALSO AVAILABLE WITH STOPS IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THIS SITE.
INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL SIDEWALKS WILL BE REQUIRED WHICH WILL CONNECT TO THE CITY'S EXISTING SYSTEM.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED REVIEW DOCUMENTS INCLUDING THE APPLICATION BOUNDARY SURVEY SITES, SKETCH, FACTORS OF ANALYSIS, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN AND REPORT.
ENVIRONMENTAL. NATURAL RESOURCES, LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION, AND LEGAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
AGAIN, THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CLAREMONT STREET AND FRANKLIN DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND ALIGN THE ZONING WITH PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT'S NEXT STEP IN THE PLANNING PROCESS IS TO SUBMIT THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION.
THE ONE SHOWN WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING.
AND THIS IS WHAT I JUST STATED.
AND STAFF APPROVES RECOMMENDATION FOR CP 24 0012.
WONDERFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS FLYNN.
I'LL TURN TO THE BOARD AND ASK, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? OKAY. SO THANK YOU AGAIN, MA'AM.
AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO STEP FORWARD AND PRESENT YOUR CASE.
HI. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KELLY DELMONICO.
I'M THE PLANNING CONSULTANT FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
YOU CAN SEE THAT JUST TO THE EAST, THEY HAVE A BIG RETENTION POND.
IT'S PROBABLY FOR SOME TYPE OF ROAD PROJECT THAT THEY NEEDED EXTRA RETENTION FOR.
SO THEY SOLD THAT PROPERTY TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER.
AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO SEEK A CHANGE IN THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM COMMERCIAL TO INDUSTRIAL TO MATCH SEVERAL OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, SOUTH AND NORTH, AS WELL AS CHANGE THE ZONING FROM CC TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
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THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS SO THE APPLICANT CAN THEN COME BACK AND SUBMIT AN ADMINISTRATIVE SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR FLEX WAREHOUSE, FLEX INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES AND GENERALLY WHAT THAT MEANS.AND I CAN SHOW YOU KIND OF AN EXAMPLE.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THEY'LL HAVE SMALL OFFICES IN EACH UNIT, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT IS JUST AN OPEN WAREHOUSE SPACE WITH A ROLL UP DOOR THAT CAN BE RETROFITTED IN ANY WAY THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT.
AND IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE'RE REALLY VISUALIZING FOR THIS AREA IS THINGS LIKE CONTRACTORS FABRICATION, ASSEMBLY THAT SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING AND EXISTING INDUSTRIAL USES LIKE THE L3, HARRIS'S AND ALL THE OTHER USES IN THE AREA.
WE DID HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ATTENDEES, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM THAT.
WE BELIEVE THAT THE REQUESTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT ALSO FURTHERS THE GOAL IN THE COMP PLAN AND OF THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL OF SUPPORTING INDUSTRIAL USES AND CREATING ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
AND WITH THAT, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS TIME OF THE APPLICANT? I DO. MR..
GOOD. YEAH. I'LL HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
THE BUILDINGS AREN'T. THE ISSUE WOULD BE THE USES THAT WOULD GO IN THE BUILDING.
YEAH. ALSO, JUST MAYBE THIS MIGHT BE MORE FOR STAFF, BUT THIS THIS THIS THIS PARCEL WAS THIS NOT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PREVIOUSLY AND THEN WAS CHANGED OVER TO COMMERCIAL.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND IT WAS IF I JUST MAY IT'S INTERESTING TOO, BECAUSE WHEN IT WAS PLATTED WAY BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS PART OF AN INDUSTRIAL PARK SUBDIVISION.
SO THAT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE CAME IN AND ZONED OVER THE TOP OF IT.
BUT THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THIS INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AND THEN IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL AT SOME POINT.
MAKES SENSE, BUT GOOD QUESTION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS NO LETTERS IN THE FILE.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS.
JUST BECAUSE IT HELPS BOOST THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE COMING INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
I'M NEVER A BIG FAVOR OF MORE GROWTH, BUT THIS IS GOING TO INCREASE OUR TAX BASE.
RIGHT. PLUS THE EXPENSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT'S THE ONLY NEGATIVE SIDE THAT I SEE WITH THIS.
IT'S STILL COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, SO I SEE NO PROBLEM IN NOT PROCEEDING FORWARD.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS REQUEST? SEEING NONE. SO THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND CASES BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR BOARD DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR EMOTION? WELL, I FEEL AS THOUGH THAT I KNOW WE LOST SOME OF OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHEN WE DID DO THE THE LAND CHANGE AND TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL BACK, EVEN THOUGH I PREFER I PREFERABLY WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE MORE COMMERCIAL COMING TO THE CITY, BUT TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL BACK IT MAY BE MAYBE A POSITIVE MOVE, A POSITIVE THING FOR THE FOR THE CITY TO SEE SOMETHING SOMETHING NEW OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO COME IN.
THANK YOU SIR. I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GRANT THE REQUEST.
ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR. KARAFFA, SECONDED BY MRS. JORDAN HERE TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL CP 2400012.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION REGARDING THAT? OKAY, SO I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE AND ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
SO NOW WE'LL BRING UP NEW BUSINESS CASE NUMBER TWO.
THAT'S CASE NUMBER CP Z2400008.
AND I WILL DEFER ONCE AGAIN TO MISS FLYNN.
YES. GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A REZONING FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSING, TO BE CALLED IIP HOLDINGS BUSINESS PARK ON A 2.14 ACRE SITE.
THIS CHANGE IN ZONING WOULD ALLOW THE POTENTIAL PURCHASER FOR THE PROPERTY TO BUILD FLEX SPACE, OR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES THAT SUPPORT THE SURROUNDING EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES. THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CLAREMONT STREET AND FRANKLIN DRIVE, WHICH IS WITHIN PORT MALABAR PARK SUBDIVISION.
AS EARLIER MENTIONED TO THE NORTH, THERE IS A SMALL EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURING PLANT.
TO THE SOUTH IS L3 HARRIS TECHNOLOGIES.
TO THE EAST IS BREVARD COUNTY RETENTION POND AND TO THE WEST IS FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT.
AND AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING WAS HELD ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2020 FOR THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOR ZONING MAP AMENDMENT REQUIRE CONSIDERATION FOR THE FACTORS OF OF ANALYSIS WHICH WERE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROPOSED LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USE.
THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO ADJACENT TO L3 HARRIS.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED THE REQUIRED REVIEW DOCUMENTS INCLUDING THE APPLICATION BOUNDARY SURVEY, SITE SKETCH, FACTORS OF ANALYSIS, THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN AND REPORT. EVEN THOUGH NO ONE ATTENDED THE MEETING, THEY STILL REQUIRED TO SUBMIT THAT AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCE ASSESSMENT.
LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION AND LEGAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT.
AGAIN, THE SITE IS LOCATED TO THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CLAREMONT STREET AND FRANKLIN DRIVE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND ALIGN THE ZONING WITH THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, WEST AND SOUTH.
THE APPLICANT'S NEXT STEP, AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, IS TO THE PLANNING PROCESS IS TO SUBMIT THEIR SITE PLAN APPLICATION AND THE ONE SHOWN ON YOUR SCREEN AGAIN IS FROM THEIR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR CPC 24 0008.
AND KELLY IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL.
THANK YOU MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? FROM THE ON BOARD FOR STAFF.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CRAWFORD. SO IN LIGHT OF OUR LAST MEETING AND UNDERSTANDING THIS PROCESS, THIS IS THE POINT IN TIME WHERE ANY KIND OF A REQUEST THAT COMES IN, WE WOULD HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT IT FOR THOSE TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS OR ANY LIKE AGREEMENTS WITH ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
CORRECT. IN AN EFFORT TO LEARN WITH YOU, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.
NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHAT IS I MEAN, WHERE WE'RE AT HERE, THIS THIS PART THIS IS A REZONING.
SO THEY'RE SEEKING TO TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU WOULD BE REVIEWING IT BASED ON THOSE CRITERIA FOR WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR ZONING.
AND STAFF HAS PRESENTED THOSE THAT CRITERIA.
AND THEN YOUR DECISION WILL BE BASED ON THAT.
AND IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ASK IS, AS OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, IS THAT YOUR DECISION IS BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE BECAUSE REZONINGS ARE QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. THEREFORE, YOU TAKE ALL THE EVIDENCE FROM STAFF.
YOU TAKE THE THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT.
AS IT'S STATED IN THE CODE, YOU BASICALLY ACT LIKE JUDGES, RIGHT IN MAKING YOUR DETERMINATION.
SO I WAS JUST WANTING TO CLARIFY MINE.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY MY UNDERSTANDING.
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BE A PRIVACY FENCE? THIS IS THE POINT IN THE PROCESS IN WHICH THAT WOULD BE ENTERED AS A REQUIREMENT, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PLATTING.YES. OKAY. THOSE WOULD BE ISSUES THAT YOU'D BE YOU'D BE DISCUSSING NOW.
THE ZONING HERE, THEY WHILE THEY'RE GIVING YOU A CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF WHAT THE INTENT OF THE PROPERTY IS, THEY'RE NOT BRINGING IN A SITE PLAN FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AT THE TIME OR WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOUR PARAMETER. YOUR YOUR BUFFERS, YOUR THAT'S NOT COMING UP FOR YOUR REVIEW SHOULD NOT ALSO SHOULD NOT BE A DETERMINING FACTOR FOR YOUR DECISION BECAUSE THIS IS SOLELY A REZONING.
OKAY. BUT YOU CAN DISCUSS THOSE.
THOSE ARE SUGGESTIONS THAT CAN BE MADE AT THIS POINT.
YES. ONCE YOU GET THE PLANNING, IT'S THAT'S JUST DRAWING THE LINES IN THE SAND.
SO THE SITE WHEN THEY WHEN BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT I JUST LOST THE WORD OBLIGATED TO THIS THIS CONCEPTUAL DRAWING THAT THEY CAN MODIFY THAT.
DOES THE SITE PLAN COME TO US TO VOTE ON AS WELL? NO. NO, SIR. SO SITE PLANS SUCH AS THIS ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
SO THAT MEANS THEY WOULD GO THROUGH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, INCLUDING OURS, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS AND BE APPROVED WITHOUT GOING TO PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY. SO WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS GOOD CATCH.
BUT MOST TIMES, A SITE PLAN SUCH AS THIS, YOU WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO PROVIDE ANY CONDITIONS SUCH AS EXTRA BUFFERS OR WHATEVER, BECAUSE THE ADJACENT SITES ARE THE SAME ZONING.
I MEAN, IT'S IT'S IT'S RATHER EVIDENT TRYING TO FIND A GOOD ONE.
I'M GOING BACK TO THE SAME SLIDES, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE USES ARE VERY COMPATIBLE.
RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, BUT BUT YES, IF IT'S A SITE PLAN THAT COMES FORWARD WITH THE ZONING OR LAND USE CHANGES, AND WE HAVE SEEN THOSE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL AND THEY'RE CONCERNED, THEN YOU CAN RECOMMEND CERTAIN CONDITIONS FOR THE SITE PLAN TO BE TO BE CONSIDERED.
ABSOLUTELY. BUT AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T BE COMING BEFORE YOU AGAIN.
OKAY. AND THIS IS ONLY THROUGH THE ZONING AND OR THE LAND USE CHANGE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THAT MAKES SENSE.
THANKS. ANY FURTHER? I'LL JUST INQUIRE. WHAT ARE THE PERMITTED USES IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING DISTRICT? YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU DURING THE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE OF USES TABLE 170 3-2, THIS IS PART OF YOUR AGENDA BECAUSE WE ARE MODIFYING SOME OF THE USES.
SO FOR INSTANCE, I DON'T WANT TO STOP YOU ON YOUR ROLE, BUT I DON'T HAVE SUCH A PRINTED COPY.
YOU'RE SAYING THE PACKET FOR TODAY? IT IS. NO, IT IS TODAY, BUT IT'S A CERTAIN PORTION OF IT.
IT WAS. YOU'RE POINTING OUT ITEM NUMBER THREE.
IN THE AGENDA IN YOUR PACKET, YOU WILL HAVE HAD.
RIGHT. THIS I ALWAYS DIGEST IT VIRTUALLY, BRINGING YOUR ATTENTION TO IT.
GOTCHA. SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT.
NO. NO PROBLEM. I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE IT IN THIS POWERPOINT OR NOT.
I DIDN'T PUT TOGETHER THE POWERPOINT.
WHY? BUT YOU DO HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF YOU ON THAT SHEET.
BUT I DO. AND YOU DO HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKETS, RIGHT? SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO STATE IS THAT IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THINGS LIKE BREW PUBS, MEDICAL RECYCLING FACILITIES BREWERIES, ASSEMBLIES, LIKE LIGHT MANUFACTURING.
AND THAT'S WHAT MISS DEL MONACO IS SHOWING, IS THAT IN THESE WAREHOUSE FLEX UNITS, YOU CAN HAVE AN OFFICE ON FRONT WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND HAVE THEIR ORDER, AND THEN YOU HAVE A WAREHOUSE, GARAGE OR SETTING, IF YOU WILL, WHERE SOMEBODY MIGHT BE DOING CARPENTRY AND OFFER THAT, YOU KNOW, MAKING CABINETS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
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INDIVIDUALS WHO MAKE THINGS OR DO SMALL ASSEMBLIES, THEY NEED A STOREFRONT.AND THIS PROVIDES THAT TYPE OF SPACE FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, EVEN UPHOLSTERERS OR, YOU KNOW, THOSE TYPE OF SMALL MANUFACTURING WOULD BE ALLOWED IN HERE.
ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NO. IF I MAY ADD, SIR, THE ALSO LIKE RIGHT OFF OF THOR AVENUE AND ENTERPRISE RIGHT HERE IN PALM BAY.
THEY ALSO HAVE A LOT OF THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING OVER IN THAT AREA.
THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT OF REFERENCE.
AND JUST TO. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PRESENT.
AND IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING WHERE YOU'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THESE FLEX WAREHOUSES ARE DESIGNED IS NOT TO HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE COMING TO VISIT YOU. IT'S PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING THERE AND PRODUCING A PRODUCT OR A SERVICE AND CHANGING THAT OVER AND GETTING IT OUT THE DOOR.
WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS NO FILE, NO LETTERS IN THE FILE.
WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND ASK IF ANYONE WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST.
SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I'D LIKE THE QUESTION OF ASKING IF THIS WAS THE TIME WHEN YOU COULD QUESTION THE CHANGING OF THE ZONING, BECAUSE THAT'S IMPORTANT IN THIS INSTANCE.
BUT FOR THE FUTURE, FOR THE BOARD THAT THIS IS WHERE THE CHANGE.
BECAUSE ONCE THE LAND GETS CHANGED, THE ZONING CHANGED.
BUT ZONING IS VERY EASY FOR YOU NOT TO CHANGE THE ZONING.
THAT'S WHERE YOU COULD SEE A CHANGE WITH THAT.
THIS CASE IS STILL STAYING WITHIN COMMERCIAL.
WITHIN COMMERCIAL. SO THERE'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF IT INSTEAD OF AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE.
THANK YOU SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.
BOARD MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR A MOTION.
MOTION TO APPROVE CPC 24 00008.
WE HAVE A MOTION BY MRS. JORDAN, SECONDED BY MR. GOODE. AND IT'S TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL CASE NUMBER CP Z2400008.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION AND ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY I.
ARE THERE ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THAT BRINGS US INTO NEW BUSINESS.
CASE NUMBER THREE. THAT'S CASE NUMBER T2400005.
I'LL BRING YOU BACK TO SEPTEMBER.
WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THROUGH COMMUNITY INPUT AND STAFF ITSELF, THAT THERE MAY BE SOME CHANGES AS WE START UTILIZING THE CODE AND APPLYING THE CODE, THERE MAY BE SOME MINOR CHANGES THAT WILL OCCUR IN ORDER TO EITHER CLARIFY OR CORRECT IN THIS INSTANCE. WE ARE CORRECTING SOME OF THE SCRIVENER'S ERRORS WITH, FOR THE LACK OF A
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BETTER WORD IN SEVERAL OF OUR TABLES OF USE IN OUR ZONING CODE.SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU WILL SEE IN TABLE 170 3-1 AND 170 173-2 OF OUR SCHEDULE OF USES IN OUR ZONING CODE.
WE HAVE. WE HAD FOOTNOTES IN THESE TABLES THAT WERE ONE THAT WERE LITTLE.
LITTLE LETTER ONE OR NUMBER ONE THAT SAID THESE USES COULD NOT EXCEED 5000FT².
IT INADVERTENTLY WAS ADDED TO THE USES FOR RECREATION INDOOR MEANING OUR LARGE GYM.
OWNERS THAT WE CREATED A NONCONFORMANCE IN OUR CITY BECAUSE IN THESE ZONES OF COMMUNITY, COMMERCIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL, THEY ARE THEY ARE ALLOWED AND THEY THEY CAN BE GREATER THAN 5000FT².
IT WAS NEVER MEANT TO HAVE THAT LITTLE ONE NEXT TO IT.
THAT ONE WAS ONLY FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE TO BE NO GREATER THAN 5000FT².
SO THAT WAS THE ONE BIG CHANGE, AS WELL AS 170 3-2 RECREATION.
INDOOR WAS ALWAYS PERMITTED IN LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.
AND SO WITH ALL THE ITERATIONS OF OUR CHANGES AS WE WENT THROUGH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE UPDATE THAT WAS TAKEN OUT, WE DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK IN.
IN ADDITION, THE OTHER BIG CHANGE WAS, AS WE KNOW CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLANS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL APPLICATIONS HOWEVER WE WANT IT TO.
HOWEVER, WE WANT TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHICH APPLICATIONS AND WHAT REQUESTS REALLY REQUIRE A CP, SO WE MODIFIED TABLE 170 2-1, WHICH PROVIDES US WITH A TABLE OF WHEN THINGS ARE NECESSARY.
FOR INSTANCE, FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
AND WE DO NEED TO GO TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL.
SO THIS TABLE PROVIDES EVERYBODY WITH A ROADMAP IF YOU WILL, OF WHEN THEY WANT TO SUBMIT SOMETHING TO THE CITY THEN THEY HAVE TO THEY CAN FOLLOW THIS COURSE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THEM.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, MA'AM.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? FOR STAFF? MR. WARNER? YES, SIR. JUST GOING BACK TO THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.
SO THE AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ONLY THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO DO A TO DO THE MEETING ONE TIME, AND THAT'S WHEN THE APPLICATION IS FIRST PRESENTED TO, TO STAFF FOR A PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.
SO FOR INSTANCE, AND IN THIS TABLE AGAIN IS YOUR ROADMAP.
SO IF YOU ARE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION FOR AN ANNEXATION, A LAND USE CHANGE AND A ZONING MAP ALL AT ONCE, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO REQUIRE YOU TO DO ONE CP AND ONE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING.
OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT FOR EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION FOR THAT ONE PROJECT.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
NOW PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR A CITY DRIVEN ZONING MAP CHANGE, NOR CONSTRUCTION PLANS OR FINAL PLATS BY THAT TIME. YOUR PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN VETTED IN FRONT OF STAFF, RIGHT? BY THAT TIME. SO WE DON'T NEED A PRE APP FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS.
AND THESE QUESTIONS KEPT COMING UP.
SO WE WANTED TO CLARIFY IN THIS IN THIS TABLE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IN ONE OF OUR MEETINGS WE RAN INTO A I WAS GOING TO SAY A SMALL PROBLEM WHERE THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY CHANGED THE HAD CHANGED THE THE EVERYTHING CHANGED.
AND WHEN WHEN, WHEN EVERYTHING CHANGES.
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CITIZEN'S PARTICIPATION MEETING BECAUSE OF THE THE, THE MAJOR CHANGES THAT TOOK THAT TOOK PLACE? I'M NOT SURE I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, MR. WARNER, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE POSSIBLY STATING IS THAT AN APPLICANT GOES THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AND IS DENIED, AND THEN HAS TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING TO START AGAIN.WELL, THAT'S A GOOD ONE TOO, BUT.
WELL, I WAS ASSUMING THAT THAT WAS YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
SO SORRY. AND THEN AT THAT POINT, THEY.
IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MAJOR OF A CHANGE OF A CHANGE IT WOULD BE.
YES. OKAY. IF THERE WERE, IF ANOTHER MEETING WOULD BE WOULD BE NECESSARY.
CORRECT. I MEAN, IF YOU RECALL, I WON'T EVEN NAME.
I THINK IT WAS BRAMBLEWOOD AT THAT POINT.
THEY WERE TURNED DOWN AND DENIED THEY WERE THAT TOWNHOME.
YES, I THINK THAT WAS THE ONE.
THEY DID NOT HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION, SIR.
WELL, WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.
WHEN YOUR CITIZEN PARTICIPATES IN THE CITIZEN, PARTICIPATION PLANS WERE NECESSARY TO BE HELD, BUT AGAIN PER PROJECT.
SO MOST PROJECTS LIKE THIS EVENING YOU HAVE A LAND USE CHANGE AND YOU HAVE A ZONING CHANGE, RIGHT.
THAT'S A PROJECT. THEY ONLY NEED ONE CP MEETING.
YES, MA'AM. SO BUT WE WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT IT STATED IN THE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IF YOU'D LIKE US TO MODIFY IT WE CAN MODIFY IT.
THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.
THE ONLY. I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN. GO AHEAD SIR.
THE ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND IS IF A PIECE OF PROPERTY WERE TO CHANGE HANDS, BUT THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THE SAME PROJECT THAT THEY MAY NEED TO HAVE A CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING BECAUSE THEY, THAT ENTITY THAT OWNS IT, THE NEW ENTITY THAT OWNS THE PROJECT, WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE INPUT FIRSTHAND FROM THOSE CITIZENS WHO MAY HAVE A CONFLICT WITH IT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN MAKE IT IN IN THIS MEETING.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PROBABLY IS BEYOND US TO CHANGE.
SO YOU'RE STATING THAT CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN? WE DO NOT HAVE THAT REGULATION IN OUR CODES, AND I AM NOT SURE, MR. ATTORNEY, IF THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE PART OF THE 163 FOR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLANS.
CERTAINLY NOT IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
I THINK IT'S JUST BECAUSE, LIKE SOME OF THE SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH AND I THINK WE WOULD ALLEVIATE I MEAN, IF THERE WAS THAT SECOND MEETING IN, YOU KNOW, IN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, IF THERE WAS THAT SECOND MEETING OR THE POSSIBILITY OF OF ANOTHER MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK WE WOULD ALLEVIATE MAYBE SOME OF THE ANGRY RESIDENTS THAT COME IN THAT ARE THAT, THAT DON'T KNOW AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON, BECAUSE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO, SO DRASTICALLY CHANGED HANDS A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THEY'VE BEEN FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND YOU JUST GOT TOTALLY NEW LANDOWNERS AROUND IT.
BUT THE BUT THE DESIGN SHOULD STAY THE SAME, YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING? JUST BECAUSE THE LANDOWNER CHANGES, IF THE APPROVED PLANS ARE THE SAME, THEN THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO GO BACK OUT. AND, YOU KNOW, TALK TO THE PUBLIC.
NOW, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND BE PLACED IN HERE.
WE CERTAINLY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW BEST TO DO THAT AND AT WHAT POINT.
THAT WOULD BE MY MY BIG REQUEST.
AT WHAT POINT WOULD YOU WANT A SECOND COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION PLAN TO BE HELD? CERTAINLY NOT WITH THE SAME, IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY.
CERTAINLY NOT WITH THE SAME PROJECT OR SAME OWNER, BUT POTENTIALLY, IF IT'S A NEW OWNER, NEW OWNER, SAME PROJECT, WOULD YOU WANT THAT? I GUESS IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE WHAT WHAT THOSE PARAMETERS WOULD BE, BECAUSE, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY FOUND 2 OR 3 MORE ACRES AND NOW THEY
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WANT TO PUT ANOTHER 30, 40 HOUSES IN THERE, THEN THAT'S A THAT'S A PRETTY BIG IMPACT ON THE, ON THE RESIDENTS FOR THAT TO FOR THAT TO TAKE PLACE.AND WE'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN BEFORE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT FIRST MEETING THAT WASN'T EXPLAINED OR WASN'T TOLD TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY COME IN, THEY COME IN HERE AND IT'S LIKE FIRE AND BRIMSTONE BECAUSE IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHY DIDN'T THAT HAPPEN? I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? SO I SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN CASES LIKE THAT, THEN THAT NEEDS TO BE IT MAY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED SO THAT THE CITIZENS ARE BETTER PREPARED FOR.
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETINGS.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THEN, AND I'LL LEAVE THAT ALL UP TO YOU.
WE CAN BAT THIS OUT THIS EVENING, BUT I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE IN FRONT OF ME.
THIS IS AT THE END OF OUR PHASE TWO CHANGES.
PERHAPS WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTION AS TO WHAT WOULD BE THAT TRIGGER THAT WOULD MAKE A SECOND MEETING BE MANDATORY. DOES THAT AM I GETTING YOUR YOUR THOUGHTS CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THEM IS IF THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PROJECT CHANGES HANDS AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME FROM APPROVAL TO WHEN.
I IMAGINE THERE'S AN EXPIRATION ON THAT APPROVAL.
SO WHEN THEY START THERE IS OKAY.
WELL THEN YEAH, THEN IT WOULD JUST BE IF THE PROJECT FOR ME, IF THE PROJECT CHANGES HANDS AND TO TO ALERT THE TO HAVE THE THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS TO HAVE A ONE ON ONE DISCUSSION WITH THE NEW PROJECT OWNER IN CASE THERE WERE ANY VERBAL AGREEMENTS MADE BETWEEN THE TWO ENTITIES, THAT THOSE WOULD BE RESPECTED OR BROUGHT BACK TO US.
MISTER CHAIR CAN MAKE A COMMENT.
PLEASE DO. I'D JUST LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT.
I BRING THE PLAN TO THE CITY AND I HAVE IT ACCEPTED.
AND THEN I WANT TO BRING ON A PARTNER AND WE CHANGE THE OWNERSHIP OR I SELL IT.
THEN I WHAT WOULD I TELL THAT PERSON THAT'S BUYING, I WOULD SAY, WELL, IT'S SORT OF APPROVED, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO HAVE IT APPROVED BEFORE IT'S FINALLY APPROVED.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I THINK THAT WOULD CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS. I AM THINKING OUT LOUD.
I AGREE, AND I DON'T THINK SAYING AN APPROVAL IS THE CORRECT TERMINOLOGY WE WANT TO USE HERE.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT TRIGGER IS GOING BACK OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
SITE PLANS ARE TYPICALLY VALID FOR FIVE YEARS, AND IF YOU HAVE NOT PULLED A BUILDING PERMIT OR STARTED CONSTRUCTION BY THAT FIVE YEARS, IT BECOMES NULL AND VOID AND YOU HAVE TO START AGAIN, RIGHT? AGAIN, THE OWNERSHIP QUESTION MAY BE A LITTLE TRICKY, BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT IT WITH MY STAFF AND MR. RODRIGUEZ AND SEE WHAT HE THINKS.
I DO AGREE WITH MR. WARNER THAT IF IT'S A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE THE PROJECT, IT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO START AGAIN ANYWAY. BECAUSE ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES ARE ONLY FOR OR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS FOR APPROVED PLANS THAT CHANGE, WE CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVE THEM, BUT IT HAS TO BE VERY MINOR IN THE CHANGES.
BUT WE CAN WE CAN USE THAT AS A TRIGGER FOR ANOTHER CP.
ANYTHING ELSE? I APPRECIATE ALL THIS FEEDBACK.
I WANT TO BRING EVERYBODY FULL CIRCLE TO TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND.
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NATURE AND KIND OF ONCE THEY PASS THEIR LEGISLATIVE SLATE OF OBLIGATIONS.SO THAT'S WHERE THESE THINGS DO GO BACK TO STAFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO TRUST NOT ONLY IN THIS DEPARTMENT STAFF, BUT WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC WORKS OR BUILDING OR EVERYBODY INVOLVED, THAT THEY'LL EXECUTE AND SEE TO IT THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE PROPERLY.
AND I THINK THAT'S TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, SOME OF THE RECENT FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HAD ON CERTAIN THINGS TO BE SPECIFIC AROUND, LIKE THE PORT MALABAR COUNTRY CLUB AREA AND WHAT HAVE YOU HAVE BEEN RELATED TO SOME FORM OF BREAKDOWN IN COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN ALL PARTIES INVOLVED? BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD NECESSARILY HANDLE LEGISLATIVELY, ESPECIALLY IF THOSE ATTEMPTS TO MISTER GOOD'S POINT KIND OF INFRINGE ON WHAT A PROPERTY ITSELF RIGHT HAS.
I GUESS THE PROPERTY ISN'T AN INANIMATE OBJECT, BUT THE OWNER HAS TO THAT PROPERTY.
AND THEY HAVE KIND OF EVERY RIGHT BY THE LAW TO DO THAT.
SO I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO INFRINGE ON ANY OF THAT LEGISLATIVELY.
BUT SPEAKING OF LEGISLATION, THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
AND IN THE BOOK, AND UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE SOME VERY TECHNICAL TERMS SCRIVENER'S ERRORS.
AND AT THIS POINT, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CORRECTING THOSE ERRORS AS WRITTEN HERE IN CASE T 24 00005? I HAVEN'T OPEN THE MATTER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
MY APOLOGIES. I'D LIKE TO DO SO NOW AND ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE IN FAVOR.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST, SIR.
BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE TWO, TWO QUESTIONS WITH THIS ONE.
WHO? IF ANYBODY WAS AFFECTED BY THIS WHEN THEY'RE APPLYING FOR THEIR INTERNAL SPACE CAPABILITIES, IF THERE WAS ANYBODY THAT WAS AFFECTED AND WHAT WHAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DO TO GET OVER THAT OBSTACLE RIGHT NOW.
AND THE SECOND ONE PERTAINS TO WHAT YOU'RE JUST DISCUSSING ABOUT MINOR CHANGES VERSUS MAJOR CHANGES.
SOME ARE ADMINISTRATIVELY CORRECTED AND OTHERS HAVE TO GO BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.
AND THE ANSWER I GOT, WHICH MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU LOOK AT, IS THAT STAFF DETERMINES THAT.
SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT ONE IF IT'S A MINOR CHANGE OR A MAJOR CHANGE.
IF YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, YOU MADE THESE MODIFICATIONS, WAS THAT A MINOR CHANGE OR A MAJOR CHANGE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE, I'LL TURN TO YOU, MISS FRAZIER, AND ASK IF YOU'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS GIVEN.
YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. ABSOLUTELY.
TO TAKE THE SECOND QUESTION FIRST, OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE DOES DELINEATE WHAT CONSTITUTES A MAJOR OR A MINOR ALTERATION TO APPROVED PLANS.
AND SO IT CLEARLY STATES IN THERE SEVERAL THINGS.
I THINK THERE'S TEN, IF I CAN RECALL CORRECTLY OFF MY HEAD.
BUT AGAIN, MAJOR BEING CHANGE IN DENSITY, CHANGE IN TRIPS, CHANGES IN, YOU KNOW, THE FULL DESIGN.
THOSE ARE MAJOR. AND THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE SYSTEM AGAIN.
MINOR IS I'D LIKE TO CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE THE LENGTH OF SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OR A BUFFER SIZE OR WHATEVER TO ACCOMMODATE BETTER CONSTRUCTION.
AND IT IS IN OUR, IN, IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
THE FIRST QUESTION WAS, DID THIS TRIGGER WHAT'S WHAT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE AS WE BRING THEM TO YOU IS WE'VE HAD THE BENEFIT THE CITY HAS HAD THE BENEFIT, AND THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS HAVE FOR UTILIZING AND APPLYING THIS NEW LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS.
CORRECT. HAS IT BEEN THREE MONTHS? OCTOBER? NOVEMBER? DECEMBER? THERE YOU GO. AND SO, YES, WE HAVE BEEN TAKING NOTES AS TO WHAT IS WORKING, WHAT NEEDS CLARIFICATION, WHAT MAY NEED, YOU KNOW, BETTER DEFINITION.
IN FACT, WE'LL BE MEETING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR NOTIFICATION TO GIVE THEM THE CHANCE ONCE AGAIN TO GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, SINCE THEY'VE ALSO BEEN APPLYING THESE CHANGES IN, IN THEIR DAILY WORK.
SO WE HE HAD A BUSINESS TAX RECEIPT BE REQUESTED FROM A BUSINESS OWNER WHO WANTED TO OPEN A LARGE.
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YOU KNOW, THE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME OF IT IS, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU EXAMPLES, YOU KNOW, THE LIFESTYLE FITNESS OR THE CRUNCH FITNESS.THOSE ARE MUCH LARGER THAN 5000FT².
AND HE'S IN A COMMERCIAL ZONE EXISTING BUILDING.
HE CAME IN, OUR PLANNERS LOOKED AND SAID, OH, WHERE DID THIS LITTLE ONE COME FROM? BECAUSE THAT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE THERE EVER.
THE LITTLE ONE THAT STATES IT'S PERMITTED, BUT IT CAN'T BE GREATER THAN 5000FT² THAT WE LET THEM OCCUPY A 5000 SQUARE FOOT SPACE.
WE REALIZE THAT THIS WAS NOW, I THINK THERE WAS 4 OR 5 EXISTING GYMS OR, OR INDOOR RECREATION PLACES WITHIN THE CITY THAT NOW HAD BECOME NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE OF THAT LITTLE ONE.
AND SO THAT IS WHY WE JUMPED ON THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE FOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.
I DO WISH TO STATE THERE'S NO NO LETTERS IN THE FILE REGARDING THIS.
BOARD MEMBERS, AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE, ANY QUESTIONS OR A MOTION? WE'LL MAKE A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE T 24 00005 FOR APPROVAL.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MR.. GOOD.
SECONDED BY MR.. KARAFFA TO RECOMMEND FOR APPROVAL CASE T 24 00005.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION AND ASK ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THIS BRINGS US INTO THE OTHER BUSINESS PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.
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AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM, WHICH IS THE YEAR END GROWTH MANAGEMENT REPORT FOR MISS FRAZIER.YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLEASED TO PRESENT.
I DON'T I DO NOT KNOW IF THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT HAS EVER DONE THIS BEFORE.
PROBABLY IN PALM BAY IS A OLD CITY, SO THEY PROBABLY HAVE, BUT NOT IN MY TENURE.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC, THIS BOARD, OUR CITY COUNCIL, RECOGNIZES ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO SO THAT THEY CAN SEE ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO AND APPRECIATE HOW HARD WE WORK FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
YOU'LL SEE BY OUR NUMBERS THAT FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE RECEIVED IN JUST THIS YEAR, 181 NEW APPLICATIONS.
NOW, THOSE APPLICATIONS RANGE FROM COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO OUR TAPS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, REVISIONS TO APPROVED PLANS IN IN THE THAT NUMBER, WE PROCESSED 122 OF THOSE APPLICATIONS.
BEAR IN MIND THAT THIS DOES NOT CAPTURE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE THAT COME BEFORE IT, THAT THAT WERE SUBMITTED IN 2023 OR 2022 THAT ARE STILL GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY STAFF THAT'S HOLDING THEM UP.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES APPLICATIONS COME IN AND THEY MAY SIT FOR SIX MONTHS BECAUSE THE ENGINEER'S REVISING THINGS OR THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOTTEN NEW OWNERS OR NEW INVESTORS.
AND SO THEY'RE CHANGING THINGS AROUND.
SO SOMETIMES APPLICATIONS CAN CAN BE IN THE PROCESS FOR A WHILE.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT WAS A 67% A WIN FOR US ON THAT IN THAT ARENA.
AND THAT DOESN'T ALSO INCLUDE ALL OF OUR MISCELLANEOUS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES, WHICH WAS 7486 PROCESSED PERMITS BY MY STAFF OF 15.
SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT FOR THE CITY.
OUR CODE COMPLIANCE IS THE OTHER ARM OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT, AND WITH TEN STAFF, YOU CAN SEE HOW WELL THEY HAVE ADDRESSED MANY OF THE CASES CREATED.
AND BY EITHER FOLLOWING UP FROM CODE OFFICERS OR CITIZEN COMPLAINT CASES.
AND WE JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT FORWARD FOR EVERYONE TO NOTE.
IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SUMMARIZED OUR ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THE YEAR.
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SO WE'RE STILL WE'RE STILL TWEAKING.THEY CHANGE WITH THE TIME AND THEY CHANGE WITH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FINDING THAT IT'S NOT WORKING.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR PREPARING THE REPORT.
I'LL SHARE GRATITUDE TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S A UNIQUE CHALLENGE TO COME INTO A GDC DESIGN CITY AND WORK WITH IT, YOU KNOW I'VE SHARED ON THE DAIS BEFORE THAT I'M A PROUD FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLE AND A GRADUATE OF THE COLLEGE OF PUBLIC POLICY.
AND SO I LIVE I LIVED MY EDUCATIONAL LIFE RIGHT NEXT TO THE URBAN PLANNERS.
I WANT TO SEE A GRADUATE STUDENT OR A GROUP OF GRADUATE STUDENTS REALLY LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY AND VIEW THE CHALLENGES AND BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE SUCCESSES AND BE ABLE TO REALLY KIND OF COME OUT OF SCHOOL AND TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO MORE.
I'M VERY PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE HAVE YOUR STAFF, MISS FRAZIER FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT FOR US EVERY DAY AND DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO. AND WITH THE GROWTH, WHICH IS, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I WELCOME THAT COMES IN.
IT'S GREAT BECAUSE IT'S AN INSURGENCE.
LIKE MR. BATTEN REMINDS US OF THE TAXABLE VALUE WITHIN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
WITH THAT BLESSING COMES, DARE I SAY, THE I DON'T WANT TO USE THE TERM CURSE, BUT THAT THAT INSURGENCE OF WORK THAT THAT REAL HUMAN BEINGS HAVE TO HAVE TO DO AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF, OF A WORK WEEK AND WITHIN THAT ONLY SO MANY WORK DAYS.
AND I JUST APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT YOU GUYS PUT IN.
I THINK YOU DO A FANTASTIC JOB.
SO IS THERE OTHER FEEDBACK OR QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO THIS FROM THE BOARD? JUST THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND IT'S VERY SUCCINCT AND EASILY KIND OF SEE AT A GLANCE ALL THE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.
AND I TO I SHARE THE SAME THOUGHTS.
I MEAN, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU FIRST CAME IN AND JUST KIND OF WATCHED YOU GROW AND WATCH YOU GROW YOUR DEPARTMENT AND SEEING ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT YOU'VE, THAT YOU'VE MADE DURING THE, DURING THE TIME THAT YOU'VE BEEN HERE.
SO IT'S BEEN WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU HAVE BEEN VERY APPRECIATIVE.
ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I'M SEEING.
DO WE OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THIS IS A THIS IS A REPORT FOR DIGESTION, RIGHT.
YEAH. NO ACTION NEEDED IS THE POINT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FROM THE BOARD I'M SEEING? NONE. SO I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 6:59 P.M..
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.