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I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETING FOR JANUARY 15TH, 2025.

[CALL TO ORDER]

MY NAME IS JAMES BEADLE. I'M THE PERSON THAT WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTIONS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS.

THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE AND IDENTIFY, IN THIS CASE, HIMSELF, AND PRESENT THE CASE FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE CURRENT OUTSTANDING LIEN AMOUNT.

THE CITY WILL THEN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT ITS SIDE OF THE CASE, AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO WHAT THE CITY PRESENTS.

AT THIS POINT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CLERK TO SWEAR IN ANYBODY THAT'S GOING TO BE A WITNESS. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY,

[SWEARING IN]

CAN YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU. MAY BE OKAY. OUR FIRST CASE TODAY IS ITEM NUMBER 172303522 AT

[PETITION FOR RELIEF (Part 1 of 2)]

225 NAVAL AVENUE NORTHWEST. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS JORGE LOPEZ. THE REASON I'M HERE IS I'M IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING A HOME EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT SO I CAN BUY MORE PROPERTY HERE IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA. AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM THE GENERAL SALES MANAGER AT GARY YEOMAN'S FORD PALM BAY, WHICH WE ARE HIGHLY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE REASON FOR THE VISIT IS I HAVE DURING THE PROCESS OF THE HOME EQUITY LINE OF CREDIT I WAS TOLD THERE'S A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY FOR OVER $30,000 FOR A BOAT TRAILER. I DO HAVE RECORDS WITH ME TO HERE TODAY.

THE BOAT TRAILER AND THE BOAT HAVE BEEN OFF THE PROPERTY SINCE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2021 UNTIL AUGUST 1ST, 2023 WHEN I SOLD SAID BOAT AND TRAILER. THE BOAT TRAILER DID COME BACK TO THE PROPERTY FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS IN ORDER TO DO REPAIRS, SINCE I HAD THE MATERIAL AT THE HOUSE. SINCE THEN I GOT ALL THE RECORDS NEEDED IN ORDER TO PROVE THAT THE BOAT TRAILER HAS NOT BEEN IN THAT PROPERTY SINCE. WHEN I CALLED THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THEY TOLD ME THAT I RECEIVED SOME SORT OF CORRESPONDENCE TO THE SAID ADDRESS.

SINCE 2022, I HAVE MOVED FROM THE PROPERTY AND HAD MAIL FORWARDED TO MY NEW ADDRESS, WHERE I RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATION.

DO I GIVE THIS TO ANYBODY? THANK YOU.

WHEN I EMAILED MISS PINKY, I TOLD HER THAT I WAS PREPARED TO PAY TWO WEEKS WORTH OF FINES FIND, SINCE THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE TRAILER WAS IN THE PROPERTY.

OH.

OKAY. LET ME ADVISE YOU OF SOMETHING. MAINLY BECAUSE THIS COMES UP NOT INFREQUENTLY. MANY TIMES IF YOU'VE MOVED FROM YOUR PROPERTY OR MOVED FROM THIS PROPERTY AS OF THE DATE. ACTUALLY, THIS WAS BEFORE. THIS IS AN OLD ONE.

THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS PRINTED DECEMBER 23RD, 2024.

OKAY, I FOUND IT. AS FOR ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDING, WHETHER IT'S PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ALL THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO DO FOR PURPOSES OF PROVIDING NOTICES UNDER THE STATUTE ARE THE ADDRESSES THAT YOU'VE MAINTAINED WITH FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OR THE TAX COLLECTOR'S WEBSITE? AS OF LAST MONTH, THE ADDRESS FOR GIVING NOTICES IS STILL THIS PROPERTY.

SO IF YOU HAVE CHANGED THE ADDRESS, IT'S UP TO YOU TO DO THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHECK WITH THE POST OFFICE.

THEIR OBLIGATION UNDER THE STATUTE, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S THEM OR ANY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT, IS TO CHECK THE ADDRESSES THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE.

UNDERSTOOD. SO YOU NEED TO CHANGE THAT IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE. YES, SIR. AND THAT'S THE ADDRESS WHERE THEY SEND ALL THE NOTICES FOR THIS CODE

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ENFORCEMENT HEARING, WHICH I DID GET THE NOTICE FROM MY TENANTS. AND THAT'S WHEN IMMEDIATELY I MOVED THAT TRAILER, WHICH WAS ABOUT A TWO WEEK PERIOD. OKAY. WHICH IS ALL STATED IN THOSE RECORDS THAT YOU HAVE WHEN THE BOAT AND THE TRAILER WENT TO THE PALM BAY MARINA.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND. WHEN YOU SAY YOU RECEIVED THE NOTICE, WHAT NOTICE DID YOU RECEIVE? I GUESS THERE WAS SOMETHING LEFT ON MY DOOR, AND THE TENANT CALLED ME. IMMEDIATELY.

I CALLED THE CITY OF PALM BAY. I DO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH MAYOR MEDINA.

AND I DECIDED TO MOVE EVERYTHING TO THE PALM BAY MARINA.

I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY FURTHER NOTICES SINCE THEN.

NEITHER DID THE TENANTS THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN THAT PROPERTY ON NAVAL AVENUE.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? VALERIE.

CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER. THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE AN HAVE AN OBJECTION TO A REDUCTION OF THE LEAN.

WE ARE SEEKING 12% OF THE $33,597.40, WHICH COMES OUT TO $4,031.69, PLUS THE 750 ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. THE TOTAL IS $4,781.69. OKAY.

AND ALSO, FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO NOTE THAT I DID SPEAK TO MR. FLAIR ON THE PHONE, AND HE DID ADVISE ME THAT HE DID REMOVE THE BOAT AND THE TRAILER AT ONE POINT.

BUT HE ALSO STATED THAT THE TRAILER DID COME BACK PERIODICALLY, AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN WHEN THE INSPECTIONS WERE BEING FOLLOWED UP ON. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY REASON TO DOUBT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE MARINA ABOUT HIM HAVING STORED THE BOAT THERE. I DO NOT. OKAY, BUT AGAIN, THE TRAILER DID COME BACK PERIODICALLY.

WELL, IT SAYS THE BOAT AND THE TRAILER. NOT JUST THE BOAT AT THE MARINA.

SO. AND I'M NOT ARGUING YOUR POINT EITHER, I UNDERSTAND.

AND WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE, SIR? THE TRAILER DID COME BACK, AS SHE DID MENTION.

JUST LIKE I MENTIONED TO HER FOR REPAIRS, BUT IT WASN'T THERE PERIODICALLY, MORE THAN A COUPLE OF DAYS AS I DID WORK ON THE TRAILER BECAUSE AGAIN, I DID HAVE THE SUPPLIES AT HOME. RATHER DO THAT THAN PAY SOMEONE ELSE TO DO IT.

I THINK THE AMOUNT OF $4,000 IS A LITTLE EXCESSIVE.

LIKE I MENTIONED IN MY APPEAL, I WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO WEEKS.

SINCE THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT I CAN RECOLLECT. THE TRAILER WAS AT THE HOME, WHICH I'M PREPARED TO PAY.

OKAY. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS, IS I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE FINE.

IN ADDITION TO THE FINES, THE THE CITY GENERALLY HAS AND IS CONSISTENTLY TESTIFIED THAT THEY HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS IN PROCESSING A CASE BEFORE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS $750.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BEGINNING PLACE, UNLESS THERE'S SOME STRINGENT CIRCUMSTANCES CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO AT 14 DAYS FOR $50, WHICH IS FINE. BUT YOU INDICATED YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THE TWO WEEKS THAT IT COMES OUT TO $700. YES, SIR. SO I WILL REDUCE THE FINE TO $1,450.

YES, SIR. AND NORMALLY IN THE ORDER I, I STATE THAT IT HAS TO BE TO BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS.

OTHERWISE WHAT HAPPENS IS, IS IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE, IF THE FINES ARE NOT PAID WITHIN WHATEVER TIME THEY PUT IN THE ORDER, THE ORIGINAL FINE AMOUNTS REINSTATED. CAN I PAY IT NOW? YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT TILL AFTER THE MEETING IS OVER, BECAUSE THIS IS THE STAFF YOU'D BE DEALING WITH. UNDERSTOOD.

BUT I'LL JUST PUT 30 DAYS IN AND YOU CAN CALL TOMORROW OR WHATEVER OR LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PAYING.

I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THAT, SO. OKAY, I'LL ENTER AN ORDER TO THAT EFFECT, SIR.

THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I JUST SIT DOWN. OUR NEXT CASE BE HEARD IS ITEM NUMBER TWO ON THE AGENDA CEB2505724 AND 1874 HOLBROOK ROAD NORTHEAST.

GOOD AFTERNOON. YES, SIR. MY NAME IS ERIC AMSPACHER, AND MY COMPANY IS DAKOTA NOTE, LLC.

OUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY AT 1874 HOLBROOK WAS THAT WE WERE THE LENDER TO THE BUILDER.

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PALLADIO DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS WHO THIS IS ADDRESSED TO.

AND WE HAD SOME DIFFICULTIES THAT I WON'T GO INTO IN DEPTH, BUT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING IS WE TOOK A DEED IN LIEU ON THIS PROPERTY, AS WELL AS MULTIPLE OTHER PROPERTIES IN PALM BAY AND SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.

AND WE'RE NOW COMPLETING HOMES THAT WERE PARTIALLY BUILT.

AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OF THEM. WE'VE ALSO HAD A MEETING WITH MR. PEARSON, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, PALM BAY BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND HE IS AWARE OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT OUR PLAN IS TO TAKE CARE OF THESE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

1874 HOLBROOK. I, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE HOUSE HAD BURNT DOWN UNTIL WE ENDED UP TAKING POSSESSION OF THIS. OUR DEED IN LIEU OCCURRED ON OCTOBER 24TH, 2024.

AND THE DOCUMENT THAT I HAVE HERE, I GUESS IT WAS RECORDED ON NOVEMBER 13TH OF 2024.

THIS PARTICULAR LEAN. BUT I REALIZE THAT THE ORIGINAL HEARING WAS BACK IN JULY OF 2024, WHICH OF COURSE WE HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT WAS OCCURRING AT THE TIME. I'M HERE TO TO WELL, TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT HERE WITH THIS, BECAUSE WE REALLY DID NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONDITION, AND CERTAINLY DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WERE FINES THAT WERE PLACED ON THE PROPERTY. SINCE WE'VE TAKEN POSSESSION, WE'VE CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY THAT IS REMOVED DEBRIS WOOD ROOF TRUSSES THAT WERE DUMPED ON THE PROPERTY.

PROBABLY. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHEN THEY WERE DUMPED ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'VE ALSO CUT DOWN ALL OF THE OVERGROWTH THAT WAS ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CURRENTLY CONSISTS OF BASICALLY THE WALLS.

THE BLOCK WALLS ARE LEFT. AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M EMBARRASSED THAT WE HAVE POSSESSION OF THIS.

AND OUR INTENTION IS TO TEAR DOWN THOSE WALLS AND RE PERMIT THAT PROPERTY REBUILD A HOME ON THAT SLAB.

ACTUALLY, THE SAME DESIGN WHICH WE NOW HAVE RIGHTS TO AS PART AS PART OF THE DEED IN LIEU.

BUT I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I CERTAINLY PROMISE THAT THIS WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND WE WE CERTAINLY DID NOT IGNORE THE SITUATION.

WE WERE UNFORTUNATELY UNAWARE OF IT. OKAY. HOW MUCH WOULD YOU SAY YOU'VE EXPENDED IN ADDRESSING THESE PROPERTY ISSUES? YOU JUST TESTIFIED ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY.

CORRECT. 1874. YOU KNOW I'M SORRY THAT I HAVEN'T PREPARED THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT WE WE HIRED A AN EXCAVATOR, BASICALLY, TO MOW DOWN EVERYTHING.

WE HAD DUMPSTER FEES, AND WE HAD TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO CUT UP THE TRUSSES ON SITE AND PLACE THEM.

I'M GOING TO ESTIMATE THAT IT WAS PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF ABOUT HUNDRED DOLLARS THAT WE'VE SPENT ON IT SO FAR.

OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION? WE'VE. I'M SORRY.

VALERIE. CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER. THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO A REDUCTION OF THE LIEN.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT IS $8,683.25. WE'RE SEEKING 15%, WHICH COMES OUT TO $1,302.49, PLUS THE $750 ADMIN FEES. AND THE TOTAL WOULD BE $2,052.49.

AND DO YOU HAVE A RESPONSE TO THE CITY'S POSITION? WELL AS I SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WE'VE PUT OUT MORE THAN THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO CLEAN UP THE LOT. WE WE CERTAINLY WILL BE PUTTING OUT MONEY FOR PERMITTING AND GOING THROUGH THE, THE PROCESS TO BUILD A NEW HOME ON THAT PROPERTY.

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OF COURSE, WE'LL BE PAYING ALL THE OTHER ASSOCIATED FEES TO TO MAKE IT A MARKETABLE HOME FOR SOMEONE.

SO WE WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE A REDUCTION IN THAT AMOUNT TO THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE, YOU KNOW, REDUCED BY THE AMOUNT THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT OUT ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS A NICE HOME FOR SOMEONE.

UNDERSTOOD. AS I INDICATED, THE OTHER GENTLEMAN, THE ADMIN FEES OF 750 OR THAT'S WHERE IT GENERALLY WORKS FROM.

YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT THERE'LL BE ANYTHING ADDED TO IT IS WHAT I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.

I DON'T MEAN TO PILE ON, BUT ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS, IS THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE LOCATED, BUT I MEAN, IN FLORIDA. MELBOURNE BEACH. MELBOURNE BEACH.

YEAH. I MEAN, FLORIDA, YOU'RE. IT'S KIND OF LIKE A BUYER BEWARE ASPECT OF IT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO BUY PROPERTY, YOU SHOULD INVESTIGATE WHAT OR GET TITLE TO PROPERTY. YOU SHOULD INVESTIGATE WHAT THE CONDITION OF THE PROPERTY IS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED. WITH RESPECT TO PALLADIO, BUT AND I'M SORRY, COULD I JUST CLARIFY? I LIVED MOST OF THE YEAR IN MELBOURNE BEACH, BUT OUR COMPANY IS ACTUALLY A SOUTH DAKOTA COMPANY.

DAKOTA LLC. AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HERE ALL THE TIME.

NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND. I'M JUST TELLING YOU WHAT THE LAW IS IN FLORIDA. THAT'S ALL I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU, IS THAT'S I UNDERSTAND THERE'S THERE'S A CERTAIN ELEMENT OF BUYER BEWARE FOR FOR THINGS LIKE THIS.

I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE IN A SECURED POSITION, BUT YOU STILL TOOK A DEED IN LIEU FOR THAT.

I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE FINE TO $150. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME FRAME YOU HAVE.

IS 30 DAYS SUFFICIENT TIME? CERTAINLY. YES. THEN THERE'LL BE AN ORDER ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT, AND THE CITY WILL PROVIDE IT TO YOU.

OKAY. AND I'M SORRY. DOES THAT HOW DO I. IT'S JUST THE EMAIL.

OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. HAVE A GOOD DAY. OUR NEXT CASE TO BE HEARD IS ITEM NUMBER THREE KB 21 90721 AT 825 CRICKET DRIVE NORTHEAST. AND THIS IS A PHONE CONFERENCE.

SO WE. SHOULD PROBABLY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.

SO THIS.

MISS JANET, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WHY IS IT. JANET, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO. GO AHEAD, TRY IT AGAIN.

NOW. HELLO? YES. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO, YES. THANK YOU. IS IT. IS IT, MISS GEISS? YES IT IS.

OKAY. MY NAME IS JAMES BEADLE. I'M THE PERSON THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY APPOINTED TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTION IN CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS.

AND THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT YOU, AS THE APPLICANT, WILL PRESENT YOUR CASE FOR THE REDUCTION, AND THE CITY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THEIR SIDE.

AND THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO WHAT THE CITY SAYS.

YOU UNDERSTAND? I DO, YES. OKAY. CAN YOU GO AHEAD AND PROCEED THEN? YES. I HAD FORWARDED SOME SOME DOCUMENTS SAYING THAT THIS WAS SUCH A LONG TIME AGO AND WE WERE UNAWARE OF IT.

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I HAD TO RELY ON SORT OF THE THE NORM AND SHOWING THAT WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT IS PRETTY MUCH AUTOMATIC TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY.

BECAUSE WE WEREN'T AWARE OF IT, I WASN'T DOCUMENTING TO DEFEND A POSITION AT THE TIME, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

WE LOOKING BACK AT THE COMPLAINT, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE STATEMENTS WAS THAT THERE WAS RUBBISH THAT WAS LEFT ON THE PROPERTY.

AND I DO KNOW THAT AT TIMES PEOPLE WILL DUMP ON THAT PROPERTY.

AT THE TIME WE HAD RESIDENTS, SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.

YOU NOTICE THE RESIDENTS TO STOP THROWING TRASH OUT, AND YOU GO OUT AND YOU PICK IT UP AND THEY THROW IT BACK OUT AND IT'S THE BACK AND FORTH.

AND SO EITHER THEY REALIZE THEY CAN'T DO IT OR YOU, YOU INVITE THEM TO LEAVE THE COMMUNITY.

AND OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD SOME OF THAT, BUT IT'S THE CONSTANT PUSH AND PULL AND SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS ADDRESSED.

WE ARE AT THAT COMMUNITY WEEKLY, ME OR MY MAINTENANCE STAFF OR BOTH.

WE HAVE A RESIDENT THAT COMMUNICATES WITH US VERY EFFECTIVELY.

SHE IS KIND OF OUR UNOFFICIAL WATCHDOG ON THE PROPERTY AND AND OFFERED TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF IF NECESSARY.

I, WE PAY TO HAVE THAT PROPERTY MAINTAINED BY A COMPANY.

THEY CUT THE GRASS FOR US ON A WEEKLY BASIS IN THE SUMMERTIME.

BI WEEKLY DURING THE WINTER. THEY ALSO WILL DO TRASH REMOVAL IF PEOPLE DUMP TRASH.

IN ADDITION TO US CHECKING THE PROPERTY, THEY COMMUNICATE WITH US.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THEIR WAY, THEY CAN'T DO THEIR JOBS EFFECTIVELY.

SO THERE ARE ANOTHER SET OF EYES THAT WE HAVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS IN THERE WAS A LACK OF WATER, WHICH I DON'T HAVE.

WE CONSISTENTLY HAD WATER. I AFFORDED YOU WATER BILLS SHOWING THAT THERE WAS NO NO SPIKE OR DECREASE IN WATER WHERE WE WEREN'T PROVIDING WATER TO SOMEBODY OR WE WERE PAYING AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LEAK.

PART OF OUR PART OF OUR, OUR STANCE IS THE FACT THAT THE NOTICE WAS SENT DURING COVID TO NEW JERSEY.

WE WEREN'T EVEN AWARE THAT WE WERE CONSIDERED IN VIOLATION.

SO AS PART OF OUR NORMAL ROUTINE, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING THE PROPERTY AND DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANYBODY THAT WE NEEDED TO NOTIFY.

SO AND OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR FOR A VIOLATION THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

SO I HAVE I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS BY THE RESIDENTS FOR A WELL RESPECTED LANDLORD IN BREVARD COUNTY.

AND WE WE TAKE VERY SERIOUSLY DOING OUR JOBS AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR PROPERTIES ARE, ARE WELL MAINTAINED.

I FORWARDED YOU INVOICES FROM WHERE WE HAD THE DIFFERENT TRAILERS REMOVED.

THAT COMMUNITY ONLY HAD ONE TRAILER THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY.

I SENT YOU INVOICES FROM WHERE WE'VE HAD. WE HAVE HAD TO HAVE THE PLUMBER OUT THERE.

AT TIMES PEOPLE HAVE HIT PIPES OR THEY'VE JUST BURST ON THEIR OWN.

AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MY MAINTENANCE TEAM CAN HANDLE, WHICH FREQUENTLY, MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, IT IS. WE'VE PAID TO HAVE PLUMBERS GO OUT THERE AND MAKE REPAIRS.

AND I ALSO FORWARDED A LETTER FROM OUR OUR LANDSCAPING COMPANY DETAILING THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT THEY OFFER TO US AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN CUTTING THAT GRASS CONSISTENTLY SINCE 2017.

SO I GUESS I GUESS OUR STANCE IS THINGS HAPPEN AND WE WE DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO GO BACK AND AND AND MAKE THEM RIGHT, JUST LIKE WITH ANY PRIVATE HOME OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY.

BUT THERE WAS NO WAY FOR US TO DEFEND OURSELVES ON THIS BECAUSE WE WEREN'T MADE AWARE OF IT.

EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS AND HAS BEEN VIOLATION FREE FOR, I'M GOING TO SAY THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME SINCE THIS OCCURRED.

THERE WAS NO WAY FOR US TO NOTIFY ANYBODY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

OKAY. WHAT WHAT ADDRESS ARE YOU AT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOU WERE RECEIVING NOTICES FOR?

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I BELIEVE IT WAS SENT TO OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IN NEW JERSEY.

WE HAVE A LOCAL OFFICE THAT AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN IN MELBOURNE.

NOW OUR OFFICE IN FLORIDA IS OUT OF TITUSVILLE.

BUT AT THAT TIME WE WERE IN IN MELBOURNE DURING COVID AND TRADITIONALLY.

AND I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE REACHED OUT TO US VIA PHONE AS WELL, AND WE'VE WE'VE SPOKEN TO THEM AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS NOT THE CASE WITH THIS.

THIS DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A TRAILER NUMBER ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT THE VIOLATION WOULD BE.

WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU THE SAME INFORMATION I GAVE SOMEONE THAT APPEARED HERE EARLIER TODAY.

IF YOU WANT SOME ADDRESS OTHER THAN WHAT'S. WELL, LET ME GO BACK ONE STEP THAT WHETHER IT'S PALM BAY OR ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN FLORIDA THAT HAS CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS, THEIR OBLIGATION IS TO LOOK NO FURTHER THAN WHAT IS ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE OR THE TAX COLLECTOR'S WEBSITE TO PROVIDE NOTICES THAT THE MAILING ADDRESS THAT'S LISTED ON THOSE SITES.

AND IF YOU WANT SOME ADDRESS OTHER THAN YOUR NEW JERSEY ADDRESS TO BE THE MAILING ADDRESS, THEN IT'S YOUR OBLIGATION AS THE PROPERTY OWNER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.

BECAUSE ALL OF THE NOTICES THAT AT LEAST THE ONES I SEE IN THE IN THE PAPERWORK I'VE BEEN PROVIDED, THE NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE MORRISTOWN, NEW JERSEY ADDRESS, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY ADDRESS THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBPAGE.

AND AS OF DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, THAT MORRISTOWN, NEW JERSEY ADDRESS IS STILL LISTED AS THE MAILING ADDRESS FOR THIS PROPERTY.

SO I'M JUST PASSING THAT ALONG TO YOU FOR WHATEVER YOU MAY OR MAY NOT WANT TO DO WITH IT, BUT THAT THE CITY IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION.

THIS CITY, OR ANY OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO TRY AND FIND SOMEBODY.

THEIR OBLIGATION IS TO TO TO ASCERTAIN WHAT THE ADDRESS IS ON THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE OR THE TAX COLLECTOR'S WEBSITE AND PROVIDE THE NOTICES TO THAT ADDRESS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PASS THAT ON TO YOU. YEAH, I, I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE THAT.

I THINK THE REASON THAT IT WAS A STRUGGLE AT THAT TIME FOR US IS BECAUSE NEW JERSEY IN PARTICULAR, AND FLORIDA AS WELL, BUT NOT TO THE SAME EXTENT, WAS SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF COVID, SO THEY WOULD BE DELIVERING TO AN OFFICE THAT.

BECAUSE OF REGULATIONS BEYOND OUR CONTROL WAS WAS SHUT DOWN.

WELL, ONE OF THE NOTICES THAT I SEE THE RETURN RECEIPT FOR WAS DELIVERED IN DECEMBER 2020.

AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN THE COVID THING STARTED, BUT THAT'S WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED AT AT THE MORRISTOWN ADDRESS.

AND THE OTHER ISSUE, I GUESS AS FAR AS YOUR PRESENTATION IS, UNFORTUNATELY, ALL I CAN DO IS CONSIDER REDUCTIONS IN FINES.

AND A LOT OF WHAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING WOULD HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE PROBABLY NEEDED TO PRESENT TO THE, AT THAT TIME, THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, A RESPONSE TO WHETHER OR NOT THESE ITEMS EXISTED ON THE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I HAVE TO TAKE THE FINDINGS OF THE OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AS BEING FINAL AND BASICALLY WHAT ALL I'M CONSIDERING IS, IS WHETHER TO AGREE TO A REDUCTION AND IF SO, WHAT THE AMOUNT SHOULD BE.

SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ALSO. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION REGARDING THIS APPLICATION? VALERIE. CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER. CAN YOU HEAR MISS CUISINE? NO I CANNOT. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. OKAY. THE CITY.

THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE REDUCTION OF THE LEAN.

WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE TO BE COLLECTED, WHICH ARE $750.

THE CITY IS SEEKING A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL AMOUNT DUE, WHICH IS $70,121.40.

WE'RE SEEKING 8%, WHICH COMES OUT TO $5,609.71, WITH THE ADDITIONAL $750 FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES, YOUR TOTAL WOULD BE $6,359.71. DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE CITY HAD TO SAY? I DID, YES. OKAY. AND WHAT'S YOUR POSITION REGARDING THE CITY'S TESTIMONY? I MEAN, WE WOULD WE WOULD ASK AGAIN FOR A REDUCTION.

WE ARE FROM EVEN THAT. WE ARE VERY STRINGENT IN MAKING SURE THAT WE WE DO OUR JOBS AND WE DO IT WELL.

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AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE APPROPRIATE ADDRESSES TO SEND IT TO.

BUT WE GENUINELY DID NOT RECEIVE IT. IF WE HAD, WE WOULD HAVE ADDRESSED IT.

OBVIOUSLY, NOBODY WANTS TO PAY $50 A DAY FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY ADDRESSED AND ADDRESS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY A QUESTION. HOW MANY TIMES DID THE CITY REINSPECT THIS PROPERTY REGARDING VIOLATIONS? ONCE THE ORDER WAS ENTERED? THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN A LONG ONGOING ISSUE FOR AT LEAST TEN YEARS. I'M GOING TO SAY IT PROBABLY A MINIMUM OF 15. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECORDS OF HOW MANY INSPECTIONS? I ACTUALLY HAVE THE OFFICER HERE THAT CAN COME SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS PROPERTY.

IT'S SABRINA NICHOLSON. DID YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF, PLEASE? YES. SABRINA NICHOLSON, SENIOR. SPEAK UP. OH.

RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND GET SWORN IN. YEAH. SHE GOT TO BE SWORN IN, TOO.

DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO, THANK YOU. YOU JUST NEED TO SPEAK LOUD ENOUGH FOR THIS PLACE TO HEAR YOU. SABRINA NICHOLSON, SENIOR CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER, CITY OF PALM BAY.

I HAVE DEALT WITH HER. WE DID TALK OVER THE PHONE.

THIS, LIKE VALERIE SAID, THE CASE HAS BEEN GOING OR WE'VE HAD ISSUES FOR A VERY LONG TIME THERE WITH WHEN THE TRAILERS WERE THERE.

ONCE THEY TOOK THE TRAILERS OUT, THINGS STARTED TO CALM DOWN, EXCEPT FOR PEOPLE WOULD DUMP TRASH ON THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AS FAR AS RE INSPECTIONS ON THAT PARTICULAR CASE, I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION WITH ME RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE WERE SEVERAL INSPECTIONS DONE. AND I CAN SAY AT THE BOTH ENTRANCES THERE WAS STILL TRASH AND DEBRIS PILED UP. SOMETIMES I COULDN'T EVEN DRIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH BECAUSE THERE WOULD STILL BE PILES OF TRASH.

OKAY. BUT THE LAST INSPECTION I DID, THERE WAS NO TRASH.

EVERYTHING HAD BEEN CLEANED UP. ALL THE TRAILERS WERE ACTUALLY GONE, EXCEPT FOR THE ONE LADY THAT THEY'RE USING IS KIND OF A OVERSEE THE PROPERTY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TRAILERS WERE REMOVED. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THE TRAILERS WERE REMOVED.

I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING MONTHS OR YEARS. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MISS GATES, DO YOU HAVE ANY DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION BASED ON THE LAST PERSON'S TESTIMONY? MISS NICHOLSON'S TESTIMONY? HELLO? ARE YOU ASKING ME? YES. YEAH. I COULDN'T HEAR EVERYTHING THAT SHE SAID.

I DID HEAR A QUESTION ABOUT WHEN THE TRAILERS WERE REMOVED.

CORRECT. ONE WAS REMOVED IN MAY OF 22, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ONE WAS REMOVED IN JANUARY OF 24, AND THE OTHER ONE WAS JULY OF 23. SO. AND NOW THERE'S ONLY ONE TRAILER LEFT ON THE COMMUNITY.

SO I, I AGAIN I COULDN'T HEAR WHAT SHE WHAT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT SHE WAS TESTIFYING ABOUT IN THE TWO MAIN THINGS WERE ABOUT THE TRAILERS AND THE PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPERTY THAT PRETTY MUCH WENT AWAY WHEN THE TRAILERS LEFT.

BUT SHE INDICATED ALSO THAT THE THE TRASH HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT PROBLEM AND THAT SHE COULDN'T GET ALL THE WAY BACK ON THE PROPERTY AT LEAST ONE TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS TOO MUCH THERE WAS SO MUCH TRASH THERE.

PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT IS A FOR THE MOST PART, A VACANT AREA IS 20 ACRES AND THERE IS PREDOMINANTLY ONE ENTRANCE THAT THAT IS USED. WE TRIED TO ELIMINATE THE SECOND ENTRANCE FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT PEOPLE WOULD GO IN THERE AND TRY TO DUMP TRASH FOR THIS VERY REASON.

I WE LITERALLY WILL PICK TRASH UP ONE DAY, AND THE VERY NEXT DAY THERE WILL BE TRASH.

SO IT'S LIKE I SAID, IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MY COMMUNITY IS DOING.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT MY RESIDENT IS DOING.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES. AND WE'RE LEFT WITH THE BURDEN OF EITHER HAVING ONE OF OUR STAFF GO DOWN THERE AND REMOVE

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THAT THOSE ITEMS OR PAYING SOMEBODY, WHICH WE'VE DONE BOTH ON A REGULAR BASIS TO REMOVE THE ITEMS. SO IT IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT SHE WOULD GO AND SEE TRASH, AND THEN WE WOULD CLEAN IT UP.

AND BY THE TIME SHE WENT BACK, THERE WAS A WHOLE NOTHER MESS OF TRASH THERE BECAUSE IT'S A CONSTANT, CONSTANT BATTLE THAT WE HAVE THERE. AND IT'S ONE THAT WE ADDRESS CONSTANTLY.

BUT I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT ON EACH OF HER TRIPS, WHAT SHE WAS SEEING WAS NOT THE SAME.

IT WAS PART OF THAT CONSTANT BATTLE, NOT AN INSTANCE OF NEGLECT WHERE WE JUST DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF A PROBLEM.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER REDUCING THE FINES.

BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE AVAILABLE, THE CITY FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURES AND THE STATUTE AS FAR AS PROVIDING NOTICE.

NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE NEW JERSEY ADDRESS, WHICH IS THE ADDRESS MAINTAINED BY YOUR ENTITY WITH THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. AND IT AS NOTED EARLIER, IT'S STILL THAT SAME ADDRESS FOR THE MAILING ADDRESS FOR THAT PROPERTY.

I'M GOING TO ENTER AN ORDER REDUCING THE FINES OF $4,500.

DO YOU HAVE NORMALLY THE ORDER PROVIDES FOR 30 DAYS FOR PAYMENT.

IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME FOR PAYMENT TO BE MADE? YES, SIR. WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. OKAY.

THEN THERE WILL BE AN ORDER ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT, AND THE CITY WILL PROVIDE IT TO YOU. ONCE I ONCE I PROVIDE THE ORDERS TO THE CITY.

OKAY. I ASSUME IT WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION FOR WHERE THEY NEED TO SEND.

YEAH. YOU JUST NEED TO TALK TO STAFF. I'M NOT INVOLVED IN THAT AT ALL.

OKAY. THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OUR NEXT CASE BE HEARD IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR CB 2287822 AT 749 FAIRHAVEN STREET NORTHEAST.

THIS IS ALSO A PHONE CONFERENCE.

THAT'S A FAX MACHINE. THAT RESPONDS.

TO RESPECT. YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS LOCATED, RIGHT? THE ONE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. I KNOW IT'S BACK OFF OF CHARLES.

YEAH. YOU WOULD NOT KNOW THAT THAT WAS BACK THERE.

OH, IT'S LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

OH, YEAH. YOU WOULD NOT KNOW BECAUSE AROUND IT, IT'S ALL TREES.

YOU PULL IN THERE AND THEN THERE'S A MESS, A COMPLETE MESS.

I HAD A MARVELOUS DAY. BYE. TAKE IT EASY.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. STRAIGHTEN IT OUT. I'M

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SORRY. THIS. IS. THE ANSWERING MACHINE. THE SECOND TIME.

THE FIRST TIME SHE DIDN'T ANSWER. AND THEN I TRIED THE OTHER NUMBER YOU LISTED. SHE SAID SHE HEARD THAT.

OKAY, I GUESS WE'LL GIVE HER FIVE MINUTES. AND IF SHE DOESN'T ANSWER, THEM.

JUST TO BE.

SURE. THANK YOU. I'LL ALSO ADD THAT I APPROVED THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

ALL THAT I HAVE. I HAVE.

OKAY. THAT'S ENOUGH. OH, NO. OH. NO PROBLEM. ARE YOU READY? NO. THAT'S OKAY.

[PETITION FOR RELIEF (Part 2 of 2)]

MISS BARR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES I CAN. YOU SOUND FAR AWAY, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU.

CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? AND DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES I DO.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MISS BARR. THIS IS JIM BEADLE.

I'M THE PERSON YOU APPEARED IN FRONT OF AT YOUR HEARING.

YES. HOW ARE YOU? HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

SAME TO YOU. AND THANK YOU. SO THE PRIOR ORDER REQUIRED THE PAYMENT OF THE $750 BY.

WHAT DAY IS IT? JANUARY 17TH, WHICH IS FRIDAY.

YEAH. SO WHY ARE WHY ARE WHY ARE YOU BACK BEFORE ME? MY APOLOGIES. MY BLUETOOTH CAME ON MY CAR. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT LAST STATEMENT YOU MADE.

I INDICATED THAT THE THE REDUCED FINE AMOUNT IS DUE ON FRIDAY, AND I WAS INQUIRING WHY.

WE'RE BACK IN FRONT OF ME TODAY. YES, I AM. BACK IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, REQUESTING AN EXTENSION.

FOR THE $750, IF POSSIBLE. UNTIL WHEN? I AM NOT QUITE SURE. AND EXACTLY 30 DAYS PRIOR TO COMING BEFORE YOU.

ON DECEMBER 18TH. I'M A FLIGHT ATTENDANT, AND I KNOW THAT YOU WERE AWARE SINCE I ACTUALLY CAME TO THE HEARING AFTER WORK.

I SUFFERED A CONCUSSION AT WORK. I HAVE BEEN BACK TO WORK SINCE IT HAPPENED ON NOVEMBER 18TH, BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN FLYING MY NORMAL WORK SCHEDULE.

BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN A LOT OF PAIN. I'VE BEEN FLYING FOR 23 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER HAD HAD BACK INJURIES WHICH I'VE JUST KIND OF SUFFERED THROUGH. UNFORTUNATELY, THE CONCUSSION HAD ME REALLY OUT WITH REALLY SEVERE HEADACHES.

I'M ACTUALLY SCHEDULED FOR AN MRI ON SUNDAY. I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO KIND OF FLY A FULL SCHEDULE.

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SO MY INCOME HAS NOT BEEN WHAT IT SHOULD BE. SO I'M HOPING THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO FLY A REGULAR SCHEDULE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS. THEY'RE REALLY NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'M ACTUALLY TAKING MEDICATION. I HAVE. I'M BASICALLY GOING TO THE DOCTOR EVERY WEEK, SOMETIMES TWICE A WEEK, FOR UPDATES, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S CAUSING MY HEADACHES.

THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON SUNDAY WHEN I GO FOR AN MRI, JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S CAUSING MY HEADACHES. I'M ACTUALLY ON MY WAY TO A CHIROPRACTIC APPOINTMENT, SO I DON'T KNOW.

I'M HOPING IN THE NEXT 1 TO 2 MONTHS I WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE FULL PAYMENT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW. SO I WOULD, I WOULD HOPEFULLY SAY BY MARCH.

OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BY MARCH 18TH, I'LL JUST.

I'LL CHECK THE CALENDAR. I'LL JUST GIVE LIKE AN EXTENSION OF A CERTAIN NUMBER OF DAYS.

60 DAYS PROBABLY. SO WHATEVER DATE THAT IS, ASSUMING ASSUMING THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO IT, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION REGARDING THE REQUEST CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER? THE MANAGER. THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION OF 60 DAYS.

OKAY. MISS BARR, DID YOU. DID YOU HEAR THE CITY'S POSITION? YES. 60 DAYS. YEAH. THEY SAID THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION TO 60 DAYS.

OKAY. YES. OKAY. THEN, BASED UPON NO OBJECTION FROM THE CITY AND THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT, I'LL ENTER AN ORDER EXTENDING THE TIME FOR PAYMENT.

TILL MARCH, WHATEVER 60 DAYS IS FROM TODAY, 19TH MARCH 19TH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, MA'AM. HAVE A GOOD DAY.

YOU DO THE SAME. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MEETING'S ADJOURNED AT 147.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.