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OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

[CALL TO ORDER]

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LET'S CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. THIS IS REGULAR MEETING 202 5-02 OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD.

TODAY IS WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 19TH. IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

CHAIR. PRESENT. VICE CHAIR. BITAR. BOARD MEMBER.

AJARI. BOARD MEMBER. HERSELF. BOARD MEMBER. JOHNSON.

I NEED TO CALL MR. JOHNSON. SORRY. ONE MOMENT.

HE DIDN'T ANSWER. OKAY. BOARD MEMBER. JOHNSON.

BOARD MEMBER. MAUREEN. BOARD MEMBER. DOCTOR. LIVINGSTONE.

PRESIDENT. BOARD MEMBER OF CHESKY. PRESIDENT.

BOARD MEMBER. WALKER. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO NEXT ITEM IS ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES. WE HAVE TWO SETS TO REVIEW THIS EVENING.

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES]

FIRST, FROM OCTOBER 16TH, 2024 AND THE SECOND FROM DECEMBER 18TH, 2024.

DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? SO MOVED FOR BOTH TOGETHER? YES, PLEASE. YES. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION. AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE. I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

SO NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS. I DO NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS. I'M SEEING NONE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. SO OUR FIRST ITEM IS ELECTION OF A CHAIRPERSON AND VICE CHAIR CHAIRPERSON.

[NEW BUSINESS]

ANY COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I WOULD LIKE TO ELECT MISS REBECCA TOVAR.

THANK YOU FOR OUR PRESIDENT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU GUYS. I DON'T I DON'T MIND DOING THAT AGAIN.

OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. DO WE HAVE WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE, AND I VOTE I THAT MOTION PASSES.

DO WE HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR A VICE CHAIRPERSON? WHO'S THE CHAIR? ME. OH MY GOD, RODNEY. I THINK MISS POTTER IS CURRENTLY THE VICE CHAIR, BUT SHE'S NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING, SO WE CAN ENTERTAIN A SUGGESTION. MISS POTTER, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH MISS POTTER? OKAY, SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

YES, MA'AM. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO REAPPOINT MISS POTTER AS THE VICE CHAIR.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE I VOTE I AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

SO THEN ITEM NUMBER TWO UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP PROGRAMS FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2025 2026. MISS CARTER, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT? YES. I THINK MOST OF THE BOARD OR THE BOARD MEMBERS RECEIVED THEIR PACKETS.

STAFF MET AND AND AT THAT MEETING, WE MADE OUR STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

I THINK WE CAN PUT THOSE UP ON THE SCREEN. YES WE CAN.

OKAY. DO YOU WANT TO? YEAH. THANK YOU. AND THIS IS JUST FOR PUBLIC SERVICES RIGHT NOW. WE'LL DO PUBLIC SERVICES.

OKAY, SO WE'RE ON PUBLIC SERVICES FIRST FOR EVERYONE'S INFORMATION.

ALAIN, IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE COULD MOVE THAT? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND GIVE A SUMMARY. AND I THINK YOU RECEIVED THAT IN YOUR MEMORANDUM.

WE'RE USING THE SAME NUMBER OF 776,641. WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY.

OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT AVAILABLE. WE USUALLY GET THE CONFIRMATION OF WHAT OUR FUNDING RECOMMENDATION NUMBERS ARE GOING TO BE IN MAY.

SO WHAT WE'RE USING IS AN ESTIMATED NUMBER FROM LAST YEAR, AND THIS IS THE FUNDING NUMBER THAT WE RECEIVED LAST AND THAT WILL BE ADJUSTED. THE NUMBERS WILL BE ADJUSTED.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO CONSIDER WHEN WE, WHEN WE VOTE.

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SO THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ADJUST THOSE NUMBERS ONCE WE LEAVE THE MEETING.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THAT NUMBER AND WE DIVIDED IT UP FOR THE BOARD.

LET ME LET ME BACK UP. ALSO, BEFORE I START, I WANT TO THANK ELENA.

SARAH. DID I GET IT RIGHT? IT'S CLOSER. AND. CARMEN.

CARMEN. JOURNEY. BECAUSE THEY PROVIDE IT TO YOU ALL IN THE PACKETS.

THE FINANCIAL CARMEN DID ALL OF THE FINANCIAL.

SHE LOOKED AT EVERYBODY'S FINANCIALS. AND THEN WE ALSO SO PROVIDED THE SUMMARIES AND ELENA WORKED EXTENSIVELY ON THE ON THE SUMMARY. SO ALL OF THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU ALL.

AND THEN STAFF MET. AND WHEN WE MET, WE THEN TOOK THAT INFORMATION ALONG WITH ALL OF THE, THE BOOKLETS AND MADE OUR FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS. SO WITH THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO DIVIDE OUR FUNDING RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO START WITH PUBLIC SERVICES FIRST.

OH, OKAY. THAT'S THE MOST CHALLENGING. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE WHERE STAFF MADE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS, WHERE WE RECOMMENDED CATHOLIC CHARITIES FOR 35,000 CLUB ESTEEM FOR 15,000, GREATER MELBOURNE PAL FOR 21 119 FOR PALM BAY. OUR BUS PASSES FOR PALM BAY RECREATION SUMMER CAMP FOR 14,934, AND THEN SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER FOR 21,001.

119 AND THAT TOTALS THE 116 496, WHICH IS OUR CAP.

WE HAVE A MAXIMUM CAP THAT WE CANNOT EXCEED WITH HUD.

AND SO THAT'S THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE COULD WORK WITH GIVEN THE NUMBER THAT WE, THAT WE'RE ESTIMATING AT. SO WE WENT TO THE MAXIMUM. SO THOSE SCORES THAT ARE ON THE SCREEN, THOSE ARE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION SCORES.

OR IS THAT THE COMMITTEE'S RANKINGS. THESE THESE ARE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

YES. AND WE CAN NOW PUT UP THE COMMITTEE'S. WE JUST.

OH OKAY. I'M SORRY I'M JUMPING AHEAD I'M SORRY.

SO. DO WE HAVE EVERYBODY? NO, WE NEED EVERYBODY. WE DON'T HAVE EVERYBODY'S.

OH, DO YOU HAVE MINE? RIGHT. WE HAVE YOURS. YES.

OKAY. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT EVERYBODY TURNED HIM IN.

DID YOU ALL GIVE US YOUR SCORES SO WE COULD INPUT THEM? OKAY. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY, SO THIS NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED. SO FOR PUBLIC SERVICES, CAN YOU PLEASE DO THE NUMBERS FOR ALL OF THEM FOR 1 TO 10? IF THERE'S A FORMULA THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE.

I GUESS.

OKAY. OKAY.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, WHAT WE NEED HERE? NO, WE CAN'T HAVE DUPLICATE NUMBERS. SO WHICHEVER, THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE, TWO, THREE.

AND WE NEED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO TEN. SO THE OTHER ONES YOU'LL NEED TO RANK AS WELL.

OKAY. SO ONE YOU CAN'T PUT TWO. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO OF THE SAME NUMBER.

OKAY, WE MISSED THAT. WE HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. DUPLICATE.

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THIS ONE. LET'S DO. OH, MAN. THIS WOULD LIKE.

TO. HAVE. SOME.

EVEN FOR THOSE WHO PRODUCE PROTEIN IN THE MORNING AND SAY.

OKAY, WELL YEAH. AND THESE SHE'S JUST GOING TO GO DON'T WORRY ABOUT.

IT. PUBLIC SERVICES. THANK YOU. THANK.

YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT. YEAH. SO WE. HAVE.

SO DO YOU WANT ME TO ALSO. I'M NOT DOING THIS RIGHT.

NO. YOU STILL HAVE TO PUT THOSE IN, RIGHT? DO YOU HAVE.

IT'S JUST ONE MORE. IT'S JUST THIS SHEET THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT IN.

WELL CHAIR, I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE STILL. OH, WE'RE STILL WAITING.

SO WE HAVE SOME MEMBERS. CHAIR.

IS THAT OKAY? IT'S MORE SO THE PUBLIC SERVICES THAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH.

OKAY. OH MY GOD. SIGNS. AND AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DUPLICATED.

PUBLIC SERVICES. OKAY. NO, IT'S NOT OKAY. THIS IS DOCTOR LISTON.

OKAY. WHAT DO YOU WANT? TO PULL HER SHEETS OUT? DO YOU WANT ME TO PULL IT AND THEN GIVE HER SOME MONEY AND GIVE HER.

YEAH. SO SHE'LL HAVE A PACK? YES, I CAN. AND MAYBE A BLANK ONE.

YES, I GOT ONE. WHAT ABOUT HOME? HOME IS IF I CAN TAKE A PICTURE, I CAN SEE IT.

YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH.

THEY. LOOK.

A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. YEAH. YEAH. THIS ONE. LORD, HELP ME SEE YOUR FACE. OKAY, THIS IS DONE. OKAY. SO WHICH ONE IS ONE? THANK YOU. GOOD WORK. THAT WASN'T HERE, RIGHT? BUT THAT IS 100 AND. ONE.

POINT SIX. SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE ONES THAT WE SCORED.

RIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU WANT ME TO HIGHLIGHT THEM OR.

OKAY. AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT OUR TWO TOGETHER.

SO THIS THE MRS WAS OURS COURSE. SO OURS COURSE WERE IN THIS COLUMN.

OKAY. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THE FORMULA DOES THAT.

SO ONE OF THEM IS FIVE. I CAN CHANGE IT MANUALLY.

SO THIS WOULD BE FIVE. BUT. I DON'T KNOW.

OKAY. SO YEAH THEY HAVE THE SAME SCORE. 41 SCORE TOTAL.

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WELL NOW LET'S SEE THAT. YEAH I'M SORRY THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME SCORE.

ONE WAS 38 AND ONE WAS 31. TWO. FOUR. FOUR. 38.

41. RIGHT. BUT NOW WHEN I CHANGE, NOW 41 AND 41, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME.

OKAY. I MEAN SO LET'S DO THIS. FIVE. BUT THIS ALSO FIVE THEN.

BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME SCORES. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? YEAH. DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT OUT OR YOU CAN.

OKAY. SORRY FOR THE DELAY, FOLKS. I'M JUST GOING TO READ OUT.

I'M JUST GOING TO DO THE ONE ONE THROUGH SIX, BUT REALLY IT'S ONE THROUGH FIVE AND FIVE.

SO THIS IS A COMBINATION OF THE COMMITTEE SCORES.

AND IS IT STAFF SCORES AS WELL? MISS CARTER. OKAY.

SO RANKED FIRST WAS THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

RANKED SECOND WAS CATHOLIC CHARITIES, RANKED THIRD WAS CLUB ESTEEM, RANKED FOURTH, WAS THE SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER, AND THEN AN A TIE FOR FIFTH IS GREATER MELBOURNE, POWELL AND THE PALM BAY RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

SO THEN, DENISE, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE US TO DO THE.

WELL, OKAY. SO LET ME ASK THE COMMITTEE FIRST.

WE HAVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDED FUNDING AMOUNTS THAT ARE, IF YOU CAN SEE THEM THERE IN THAT FAR RIGHT COLUMN, THAT EQUAL OUR TOTAL OF $116,496. SO WE CAN MOVE THAT AROUND IF WE WANT, AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION OR CONTINUE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. DOES ANYONE NOT AGREE WITH THE RANKING OR WHAT? I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP. MADAM CHAIR, I'LL JUMP IN WITH A COMMENT, IF I MAY.

AT THIS EXACT JUNCTION, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE RANKING BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE CONFUSING ME.

THIS IS SOME EXCEL WIZARDRY. I'M A FAN OF EXCEL AND PEOPLE THAT CAN USE IT, SO I'M SURE IT ALL MAKES SENSE.

BUT LET ME JUST ASK THIS QUESTION. THE STAFF RECOMMENDED TOTALS.

WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS POTENTIALLY VOTING FOR WE CAN'T SPEND MORE MONEY, RIGHT? WE CAN ONLY SPEND THAT 116 SO IF WE WERE TO WANT TO CHANGE ONE OF THE GROUP'S TOTALS, IT WOULD IT WOULD COME FROM ANOTHER GROUP WOULD BE THE PROPOSITION ZERO SUM GAME.

THE TOP THREE THAT HAVE ZERO INCLUDED IN THE CONVERSATION? IT WOULD BE IF WE WANTED TO TAKE MONEY FROM ONE OF THE ONES.

CORRECT. AND PUT UP. OKAY. AND JUST I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT.

KEEP IN MIND, THE MORE GROUPS THAT YOU FUND, THAT'S MORE MONITORING AND MORE STAFF TIME.

SO THE MORE AGREEMENTS YOU HAVE OUT THERE IS, THE THE MORE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR STAFF DOING TO MONITOR THOSE AGREEMENTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE. SO AT SOME POINT IN TIME, YOU DON'T WANT TO FUND ALL 12 OR 10 OR WHATEVER AT LITTLE AMOUNTS BECAUSE IT GETS BURDENSOME AT SOME POINT, PAPERWORK WISE, ON A SMALLER GRANT AMOUNT VERSUS THE WORK THAT IT'S REQUIRED TO TO MANAGE THAT. SO JUST THAT CAVEAT AS WELL. SURE, SURE.

OKAY. YEAH, I JUST NEEDED THAT, THAT FRAMEWORK A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAT I COULD OBSERVE THE REST OF THE DISCUSSION.

BUT THAT'S MY ONLY INQUIRY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE SCORING OR THE FUNDING AMOUNTS CONTAINING A TABLE.

SO IS THE BOARD IN AGREEMENT WITH THE AMOUNTS THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDED FOR, FOR ALL OF THESE? BECAUSE WE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH WHO SHOULD THE AGENCIES THAT SHOULD BE FUNDED? I WILL SAY FOR ME PERSONALLY, THOUGH I DID NOT CONCUR WITH THE STAFF FUNDING AMOUNTS, I CHANGED THEM SLIGHTLY.

BUT I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO CONVERSATION FROM THE BOARD.

JUST FOR INFORMATION, I FUNDED CATHOLIC CHARITIES AT $20,000 AS OPPOSED TO $35,000.

I FUNDED GREATER MELBOURNE PAL AT THEIR FULL REQUEST AMOUNT OF $23,800.

I FUNDED THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUS PROGRAM FOR THE FULL AMOUNT OF 9324.

I INCREASED THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT AMOUNT TO 28,697, AND THEN I FUNDED SOUTH BREVARD WOMEN'S CENTER AT THEIR FULL REQUESTED AMOUNT OF 34,006 71. I ONLY RECOMMENDED FUNDING FOR FIVE AGENCIES AND NOT SIX.

IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT FUNDING AMOUNT MORE IMPACTFUL FOR EACH OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

SO THAT THAT WAS MY METHODOLOGY, BUT I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO ANYONE ELSE'S INPUT.

I NEED WINTER HAVEN AND AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION,

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THE STAFF HAVE MORE TIME TO DO ALL THE RESEARCH AND MAKE A DECISION, AND I, I THINK IT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU. AND THAT THAT WAS OUR REASONING AT OUR MEETING.

WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW TO MINIMIZE THE SAY, FOR INSTANCE, IF AN AGENCY DIDN'T WORK OUT BECAUSE WHAT WE WERE HAVING, WE WERE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THIS YEAR WITH SOME OF THE AGENCIES HAD NOT SUBMITTED EVEN A FUNDING REQUEST.

SO THOSE WERE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AND ALSO TRYING TO SERVE MORE, MORE AGENCIES.

SO. WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T IF I MAY, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY DON'T YOU KNOW, TAKE THE MONEY DOWN OR WHAT HAVE YOU AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, IF ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS DOESN'T, DOES THAT ARE YOU THEN ABLE TO MOVE IT, OR IS IT ONLY LIKE WHAT WE DECIDE HERE IS THE PLAN AND THAT'S THE PLAN. WELL FOR INSTANCE ELENA AND I HAVE MET THIS YEAR WITH SOME AGENCIES.

IN FACT, WE WERE ON THE PHONE WITH ONE TODAY.

JUST TALKING ABOUT SERVING MORE CHILDREN, RIGHT.

AND WHAT WERE THEY DOING? AND THAT'S WHAT THEY THEY GAVE US THE MARKETING PLAN.

THEY TALKED TO US ABOUT MOVING TO MORE FACILITIES WHERE THEY COULD INCREASE THEIR NUMBERS.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER AGENCY THAT HAD NOT SUBMITTED.

WELL, WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH TRYING TO GET THEIR PAY REQUEST THROUGH.

AND I THINK YOU ALL KNOW THAT THAT YOU KNOW, WE HAD SIX TIMES BEFORE WE COULD EVEN PROCESS ONE PAYMENT.

WE SAT DOWN WITH THEM AND HAD A MEETING WITH THEM AND TALKED WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR THE CEO, ALONG WITH THE OPERATION MANAGER AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT WAS INVOLVED.

AND ONCE WE HAD THAT MEETING, THEN WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE.

SO WE'LL TRY TO WORK THEM OUT FIRST. IF WE CAN'T, THEN AT SOME POINT WE MAY HAVE TO TERMINATE.

BUT WE TRY TO FUND AGENCIES UPFRONT AND GET THE INFORMATION AND KNOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

JUST AS A QUICK FOLLOW UP, IF THE MONEY INCREASES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE SAID WE WERE GOING OFF OF A CERTAIN BUDGET BASED UPON ESTIMATES, BUT IT MIGHT CHANGE HOW HOW DOES THAT HOW WILL THAT GET ALLOCATED? THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING THE CHAIR, IF WE COULD HAVE SOME IN THE MOTION, IF WE HAVE AN INCREASE OR DECREASE TO ALLOW THE STAFF TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, THAT THEY HANDLE IT ADMINISTRATIVELY.

TO THAT END, WOULD THAT PROPOSITION BE TO HANDLE IT WITHIN THE POPULATION OF ALREADY APPROVED ORGANIZATIONS? YES. GOTCHA. OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

OKAY. OKAY. SORRY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I AGREE WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

INITIALLY, MY METHODOLOGY WAS TO ACTUALLY DIVIDE IT UP EQUALLY WITH ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS, BUT OUR CHAIR MEMBER JUST MADE A REALLY GREAT POINT AS FAR AS FOR STAFF.

SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND LOOKING OVER THE NUMBERS, I DO AGREE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT THEN? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE BASED OFF THE STAFF FUNDING RECOMMENDATION. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. AND THEN DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT EMOTION THAT IF THERE'S ANY INCREASE IN THE FUNDING AMOUNT, WHERE WOULD OR DO WE WANT A SECOND MOTION FOR THAT? DENISE. YES. INCLUDED IN THE MOTION OR. YES, YOU CAN.

OKAY. SO SO BECAUSE THAT 116,496 IS A PRELIMINARY NUMBER.

THEY'RE ESTIMATING THAT NUMBER. IF THAT NUMBER CHANGES FROM HUD, THEN STAFF NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING.

SO WHERE WOULD YOU WANT THAT APPLIED? IF IT WERE ME I WOULD SAY THE BUS VOUCHER PROGRAM.

BUT YOU WANT I'M NOT MAKING THE MOTION. YES, I DO AGREE.

OR DO YOU HAVE A RECOMMENDATION MISS CARTER, THAT CAN BE ADDED TO THAT.

OKAY. BUT OR WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS. BUT THAT'S THAT IF WE HAVE AN INCREASE OR DECREASE IN FUNDING THAT IT CAN BE ADJUSTED BY THE STAFF.

YEAH OKAY. IS THAT OKAY? YES, MA'AM. YEAH. YES I YEAH SHE HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

YES I DO MOTION TO ADD SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS ALLOCATED THAT IT WOULD BE ALLOCATED TO THE THE PALM BAY BUS

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VOUCHER PROGRAM. SO LET ME JUST RESTATE THE MOTION FOR THE RECORD.

THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE STAFF FUNDING LEVEL RECOMMENDATIONS AND IF ANY CHANGE IN THE ALLOCATION, IT WILL BE APPLIED TO THE BUS VOUCHER PROGRAM.

IS THAT. YES. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. WE GOT IT.

WE GOT IT. ARE WE GOOD, RODNEY? GOOD. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. I HAVE ONE, NAY. I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

SO NEXT WE WILL GO TO. OH GOSH. SORRY. NEXT WE WILL GO TO THE PUBLIC FACILITIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT NEXT. HOLD ON. LET ME TURN MY PAGES HERE.

NO, I SO CHAIR, CAN YOU JUST GO GO THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN WE CAN SEE IF WE JUST APPROVE THAT.

WHAT DO YOU. WHICH ONE? SORRY. OR IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM AND THEN YOU GUYS GO THROUGH.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION? CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. NON PUBLIC SERVICES. YES.

OKAY. SO NONPUBLIC SERVICES. LET ME SEE. OKAY.

SO WE HAD A COUPLE THAT AFTER I'LL JUST EXPLAIN THAT PART.

WE HAD A COUPLE THAT AFTER STAFF VERIFIED THE CENSUS TRACKS THEY BECAME NO LONGER ELIGIBLE.

SO THEY WERE REMOVED FOR CONSIDERATION. SO RANKING FIRST I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON.

ELENA. WAIT, IS IT THE GROUP TOTAL COLUMN? SO THIS ONE WAS DIFFERENT.

OKAY. ONE AND TWO AND THREE. IT WAS ALL ONES.

YES, YES, IT'S ALL ONES. OKAY. SO SO WE HAVE THE VICTORIA PLAYGROUND AND SUN SHADE STRUCTURE PROJECT, THE LIBERTY DUGOUT PROJECT, AND THE DRISCOLL RESTROOMS AND DOORS PROJECT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. SO ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING IS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

IS THE FULL AMOUNT OF EACH ONE OF THOSE CORRECT.

CORRECT. YES. OKAY. SO ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD ON THAT.

BRIEFLY, MADAM CHAIR, I'LL JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE FOR CONFIRMATION OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RECOMMENDED PROJECTS THAT HAVE ZERO IS BECAUSE WE'VE DETERMINED THE STAFF IS DETERMINED THAT THEY'RE INELIGIBLE FOR THE USE OF THE FUNDING.

YES. OKAY. YES. AS AS WE SPOKE TO WITH THE BOARD LAST MONTH, THE BOARD ASKED TO CHAIR ASK THAT WE LOOK AT SERVICE AREAS AND ONCE WE WENT OUT, WENT BACK AND STARTED GETTING CENSUS DATA AND COLLECTING THAT PROJECT BECAME INELIGIBLE. IT'S LIKE 49.8 OR 49.6, AND IT HAS TO BE 51.

SO THE AREA IS NO LONGER LOW TO MODERATE. PRIMARILY IT HAS TO BE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HAVE HAVE TO BE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.

AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS NO LONGER THAT WAY. IT AFFECTED THAT ONE AND THE ONE THAT WE WERE BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD LAST MONTH, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER AS WELL. SO THE CENSUS DATA WAS UPDATED, AND WHEN IT WAS UPDATED, IT IT NO LONGER QUALIFIES. SO FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS THE THREE PROJECTS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING THE RECOMMENDED IN FULL. SO ESSENTIALLY THERE'S THERE'S ALL, ALL REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THOSE FUNDS WILL BE THERE AND THOSE PROJECTS WILL BE ABLE TO BE 100% FUNDED.

WELL AS AS MOST PEOPLE ARE AT THIS POINT, WE'RE UNCERTAIN ABOUT WHAT WHAT FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE.

BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS.

IF WE DON'T TAKE THIS THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE WON'T BE READY OR IT WON'T BE AVAILABLE.

SO IF IF HUD WAS TO DID SAY WE HAD THE MONEY AND WE DIDN'T TAKE IT THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE WILL BE OUT THERE.

SO TO, TO GIVE THE, THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO GET THIS MONEY.

WE HAVE TO TAKE IT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND THEY'RE AND WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS FAIR.

THANK YOU. SO DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE PROJECTS? I'LL I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDED AMOUNT.

OF THE OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE. I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

AND THAT WAS FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS. YES. AND LET ME JUST GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR PARKS AND REC FOLKS.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK ON THESE EVERY YEAR,

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YEAR AFTER YEAR. SO APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY. SO NEXT WE WILL MOVE ON TO WHAT IS THE CATEGORY OF THESE OTHER IS PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION FAIR HOUSING AND HOUSING SERVICES. OKAY. SO WE JUST WANT A, A MOTION, A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION, FAIR HOUSING AND HOUSING SERVICES. YES. OKAY, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION, FAIR HOUSING AND HOUSING SERVICES. THE POINT OF ORDER.

AS THE CHAIR, YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION. PRETTY SURE I CAN, BUT OKAY, I'LL DEFER TO OUR COUNCIL.

POINT OF ORDER. IT'S FINE. GO AHEAD. AM I WRONG? YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? CAN CHAIR MAKE A MOTION? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT? YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION FOR BUSINESS.

I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE I MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY CAN TAKE.

THE DOG EDUCATION AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. ALL RIGHT.

NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. THE I GUESS. ALSO, I NEED A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.

SO I WAS TRYING TO SLOW THINGS DOWN BECAUSE I NEED CLARIFICATION. THE TOP TWO THE RECOMMENDATION IS NOTHING.

AND SO WE'RE REALLY IN MAKING ANY MOTION WITH RECOMMENDATIONS HERE.

WE'RE ONLY TRYING TO PUT THIS 100,000 TOWARDS THE LINE ROW 20 BECAUSE THE PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AND THE FAIR HOUSING, IT SAYS THAT THE REQUEST IS 151,000 AND IT SAYS 4000.

BUT THE RECOMMENDATION IS ZERO. SO WE'RE THAT'S THE THAT'S THE POINT OF CLARIFICATION I'M SEEKING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUT IN WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE SCORES BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT I SAID TO THE CHAIR WAS, WHY DON'T WE JUST GO AND YOU READ THEM AND, AND THEN WE AND THE BOARD VOTES ON THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THEM. EVERYBODY, PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION.

SO IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS, WE'RE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION BASED UPON $256,000, NOT 101,000, BUT IT'S ALL THREE. I THANK THE CHAIR.

ADMINISTRATION. PROGRAM ADMINISTRATION AT 151 328.

FAIR HOUSING AT 4000 AND HOUSING REHABILITATION ACTIVITY DELIVERY COSTS AT 101 17.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. I GUESS THE MOTION CARRIES, RIGHT? NO, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. NAY. WE HAVE ONE.

NAY. I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES. SO THEN WE ARE GOING TO.

IS THAT. THAT'S ALL. OH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO HOME RECOMMENDATIONS? YES. OKAY. I'LL START. I'LL START THAT. OH, HOPEFULLY I'LL START THAT. THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE TO YOU ALL BY COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

HE WAS HERE AT THE LAST MEETING, AND HE WAS THE ONLY NONPROFIT THAT SUBMITTED A PROPOSAL FOR HOME.

SO THIS HOME WAS MUCH SIMPLER IN THAT WE ONLY RECEIVED ONE PROPOSAL.

THAT PROPOSAL IS FOR HE ASKED FOR 294,705. WE ONLY HAD 170,000 FOR 2562 AVAILABLE. WE DO HAVE THE FUNDS. ALSO. HE IS A KYOTO.

AND THEN WE SET ASIDE SOME MONEY. THE COUNTY THE COUNTY, BECAUSE WE'RE PART OF A BREVARD COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM. THEY ALSO TAKE THEIR MONIES OFF THE TOP AND TELL US, TELL ALL THE CITIES WHAT THEIR ADMINISTRATION FEES WILL BE AND THEN THE MAXIMUM THAT THEY CAN TAKE.

AND THEN THEY ALSO TELL US WHAT THEIR ADMINISTRATION FEE IS.

AND THIS AGAIN IS AN ESTIMATE BASED ON THE FUNDING FOR THIS CURRENT YEAR.

WE'RE USING THAT NUMBER OF TWO TWO, ONE. AND YOU SEE THAT ON THE PAPER 343 62.

THE COUNTY TOLD US THAT THEY WOULD LIKE 5830 $0.92.

THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY FOR ADMINISTRATION WOULD BE 16,000 883 50.

AND THEN THERE'S THE TOTAL SET ASIDE THE COMMUNITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ORGANIZATION SET ASIDE OF 34,085 12.

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SO WE PROVIDED YOU WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE.

IT'S NOT VERY MUCH FOR HOME, BUT WE TRIED TO ALLOCATE IT.

SO JUST TO CONFIRM, BECAUSE ON THE SHEET THAT WAS IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE, WE HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION FOR THE BREVARD COUNTY HOME CONSORTIUM INCLUDED.

SO THE TOTAL IS ACTUALLY 227 TWO 3416. CORRECT.

YES. I'M SORRY. NO. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL GOT THE SAME THING.

OKAY. THERE'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE HOME RECOMMENDATIONS? BLESS YOU. BLESS YOU. DO WE WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? I JUST WANT TO THIS THIS SAME COMPANY. I THINK, AS YOU SAID BEFORE, THEY ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT MADE THIS REQUEST FOR THE FOR THE FUNDING. YES, SIR. DID DID WE CHECK INTO THIS COMPANY? I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING BUILDING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO.

I KNOW EBY HAS WORKED WITH THEM. YOU WORK WITH THEM LAST YEAR? I WORKED WITH THEM TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE ARPA FUNDING FOR THE BAY TREE APARTMENTS.

RIGHT. AND THEY WERE ABLE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND GET TENANTS IN AND REHAB SOME OF THE UNITS, AND WE'VE DONE A MONITORING. WE DID A MONITORING LAST YEAR ON THE ARPA FUNDING, AND IT WAS GOOD TO GO THERE.

THEIR STAFF WAS OPEN TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WITH ANY FINDINGS PER SE, BUT THEY WERE OPEN TO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. THE PROPERTY WHEN WE WENT OUT WAS GOOD, SO.

BUT I COULD ONLY SPEAK TO AND AND THAT PROJECT WAS DONE.

THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED FOR A WHILE NOW.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THE PROPERTY YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT PROPERTY. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? ALL RIGHT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

I'LL SECOND THAT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO YOU NEED ME TO READ THOSE AMOUNTS INTO THE RECORD, DENISE, OR THEY DID.

YOU WANT ME TO READ THEM AGAIN? NO, I DID, WE ALREADY? YES. OKAY. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. WE HAVE OUR. WE HAVE A NAY I VOTE I AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

SO NEXT WE HAVE THE CDBG SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE FOR PROGRAM YEARS 2022, 2023, 2023, 2024, 2024 AND 2025 ANNUAL ACTION PLANS.

YES. LET ME JUST GET TO THAT.

OKAY. THE LET ME GET CLOSER. I DON'T KNOW, IT MIGHT KIND OF LOW.

OKAY. THE THE AMENDMENT THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU WAS PUBLICLY NOTICED IN FLORIDA TODAY.

TODAY, ON FEBRUARY THE 19TH. THE WE'RE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS, WE WILL NOTE THEM AND INCLUDE THEM IN OUR INFORMATION THAT'S SUBMITTED TO HUD.

THE THIS IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT. IT'S OUR SECOND ONE.

IT'S DOING SOME CORRECTIONS FROM THE FIRST ONE THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU LAST MONTH.

THIS AMENDMENT WILL BE IS PUBLICLY ADVERTISED BETWEEN THE COMMENT PERIOD IS FROM FEBRUARY THE 19TH THROUGH MARCH THE 21ST.

AND THEN YOU'LL NOTICE IT MAY SAY THE 31ST, BUT WE WERE ONLY REQUIRED TO GO 30 DAYS, SO WE CHANGED THAT TO 30 DAYS.

THE AMENDMENT WILL BE SUBMITTED AS IS REQUIRED IN THE 3030 DAY COMMENT PERIOD TO HUD AFTER IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL. AND IT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL AT THE APRIL 3RD MEETING.

NOW, LET ME GO THROUGH AND SUMMARIZE EACH ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS AND TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.

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AS WE WE SHOWED YOU ON THE, ON THE SCREEN WHEN WE WERE THE WHEN PUBLIC WORKS SUBMITTED THE SIDEWALKS AND WE WERE LOOKING AT SERVICE AREA, THIS PROJECT TOO WAS IN THAT SAME SERVICE AREA.

AND SO THE PROJECT THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH, AFTER WE UPDATED OUR SERVICE AREA INFORMATION, CENSUS DATA, WE FOUND OUT THAT IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE.

AND WE TRIED TO AGGREGATE THE DATA TO LOOK AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT CENSUS TRACTS AND BLOCK GROUPS TO SEE IF THAT COMBINATION WOULD STILL MAKE IT QUALIFY. AND IT DOESN'T. THE WHOLE AREA IS JUST CHANGED INCOME WISE, AND IS NO LONGER PRIMARILY LOW TO MODERATE INCOME, WHICH IS 51%. SO WE HAD TO CANCEL THIS PROJECT.

WE'RE CANCELING THE PROJECT THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU LAST MONTH.

AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A PROJECT. SO SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN WE SAT DOWN WITH, WITH PARKS AND FACILITIES AND WE WERE DOING OUR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS, WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US SEVERAL YEARS OF PROJECTS THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS SO THAT AND PHASE THEM SO THAT WE WOULD JUST HAVE IT WOULD SAVE US TIME, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR AND EVEN THIS YEAR, WE'RE WAITING ON OUR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW CLEARANCE.

SO BECAUSE WE HAVE A PROJECT LIBERTY PARK THAT THEY HAD SUBMITTED AND THEY SUBMITTED SEVERAL PHASES TO US. WE WENT TO THEM AND SAID, LOOK, WE'RE WE DON'T HAVE A PROJECT THIS YEAR.

THE OTHER ONE FELL THROUGH. DO YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO? AND THEY SAID, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO LIBERTY PARK.

WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS THERE. AND WHAT THEY SUBMITTED IS REALLY NEEDED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE RESTROOMS THERE AT LIBERTY PARK, BUT MAN, THEY COULD USE SOME WORK.

SO WHAT THEY SUBMITTED TO US WAS, SO WE'RE GOING TO CANCEL THE 270,002 66 FOR SAN FILIPPO SIDEWALK SAN FILIPPO BOULEVARD FROM WICHITA TO EL GRANDE AND CANCEL THAT AND MOVE THE MONIES TO.

WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING THE MONIES TO LIBERTY PARK PHASE TWO.

AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO COMPLETE COMPLETELY RENOVATE TWO RESTROOMS BUILDINGS THERE INSTALL SUNSHADES TO COVER THE BLEACHERS AROUND THE SOFTBALL FIELDS, INSTALL NEW SOFTBALL OUTFIELD FENCING, AND INSTALL NEW CONCRETE SIDEWALKS.

AND THEY, THEY IT'S IT'S THEY HAVE THEY REALLY NEED IT.

IT'S VERY, VERY MUCH NECESSARY. AND A LOT OF THE, THE LIFE OF THE, THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEEDED TO SUSTAIN THE LIFE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

SO TO IMPROVE AND SUSTAIN THE LIFE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

WITH THAT, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE TRANSFER OF THE 270,000 THAT WAS CANCELED UNDER AMENDMENT TWO TO LIBERTY PARK PHASE TWO. AND THAT WILL BRING ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS THIS YEAR TO LIBERTY PARK, INCLUDING WHAT WE'VE ALREADY FUNDED THEM FOR, TO $404,456. AND THEN IN AMENDMENT THREE. AND WE MAY WANT TO CHIME IN ON THIS. THIS IS THE HOUSING REHAB.

AND WE HAD PUT IN FOR THE HOUSING REHAB INSPECTOR.

BUT WITH THE CITY'S POSITION RIGHT NOW ON NEW POSITIONS, THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO HIRE ANY FULL TIME POSITIONS. SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS TO CLARIFY THIS.

THIS IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.

BUT IT STILL WILL BE HOUSING, REHAB ACTIVITY DELIVERY COSTS.

HOWEVER, THAT PERSON MAY BE USED FROM THE EXISTING STAFF IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR IT THAT PERSON MAY BE CONTRACTED OUT. AND SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT'S WHY THIS IS HERE.

AGAIN, NOTHING ELSE CHANGED IN THE AMOUNT. IT'S JUST CHANGED WITH HOW THE CITY WILL WILL USE THE POSITION BECAUSE WE CANNOT HIRE A FULL

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TIME PERSON. WE DEFINITELY NEED AN INSPECTOR.

WE DEFINITELY NEED AN INSPECTOR FOR BOTH FOR OUR HOME, FOR OUR CDBG, AND FOR WE'RE NOT SURE WHETHER WE'LL USE THIS FOR SHIP, BUT FOR HOME AND CDBG. SO WE NEED A INSPECTOR.

AND SO THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS IS JUST AMENDING WHAT WENT IN THE NEWSPAPER ON JANUARY THE 15TH AND CAME BEFORE YOU ALL AT THE LAST MEETING CHANGING IT FROM A FULL TIME POSITION TO AN IN-HOUSE OR CONTRACTOR POSITION. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT? YES, MA'AM. I HAVE ONE BRIEF QUESTION. I'M SORRY, MA'AM, BUT WHAT DID YOU SAY IS INHIBITING THE HIRING OF THE FULL TIME POSITION? WHAT'S THE STOP ON THAT? WE WERE JUST TOLD THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY.

SO IT'S A A CITY DECISION INSIDE. SO. SO, I MEAN, SUFFICE TO SAY, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE SAYS, HEY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT BRINGING IN ANY FULL TIME EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S CORRECT. UNDERSTOOD. AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE WHAT I HEARD TO ENSURE MY UNDERSTANDING.

SO THEREFORE WE'RE VIEWING IT MORE AS A PROJECT.

I'M SEEING THAT IN THE DELIVERY COSTS. AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, THESE TASKS STILL NEED DONE.

SO NOW THE FUNDING IS USED TO DO THOSE TASKS AS OPPOSED TO BEING SO NARROWLY AS TO SAY, USED TO PAY.

THE PERSON THAT DOES THE TASKS IS USED TO GET THE TASKS DONE.

TO YOUR POINT, SOME CONTRACTING OUT AND THINGS OF THIS SORT MIGHT OCCUR.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME. THE THE NEED IS STILL THE SAME, RIGHT? WE STILL NEED SOMEBODY. IT'S JUST THAT WE WILL JUST CONTRACT THAT OR THAT PERSON WILL BE CONTRACTED THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED SOMEBODY TO GO INTO THE HOMES INTO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING.

AND SO WITH IT TITLED THIS WAY AND PACKAGED THIS WAY, THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO EVEN IF IT IS INTERNAL TO THE CITY, YOU MENTIONED BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT'LL ALLOW YOU TO FUND THAT TOWARDS THAT OTHER DEPARTMENT.

OUT OF THIS DEPARTMENT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND. AND JUST TO SAY, I THINK THAT THAT IS QUITE JUST CAUSE FOR, FOR THIS, THIS AMENDMENT HERE.

SO I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF THAT. SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. JUST TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT, SO DOES THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO TAKE ON THAT ADDITIONAL WORK.

SO THOSE ARE INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO SEE IF THAT'S ALLOWED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCE.

YEAH. THEY'RE NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT THEY'RE. YEAH, THEY'RE FEE DRIVEN.

YEAH. YES, MA'AM. SO WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYONE AVAILABLE TO TAKE ON THAT ADDITIONAL TASK OF HAVING TO TO DO THE INSPECTIONS.

BUT ALSO, IS IT EVEN ALLOWED? RIGHT. THAT'S INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS THAT STAFF IS HAVING.

SO. OKAY. AND OUR, OUR PLAN IS EITHER CONTRACT IT OUT OR GET IT BY A CONTRACTED OUT.

OKAY. AND THEN WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S A HIRING FREEZE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ARE YOU SAYING HIRING FULL TIME POSITIONS IN GENERAL OR JUST CREATION OF NEW POSITIONS? YOU'RE NOT FILLING ANY POSITIONS RIGHT NOW. SO IT'S JUST THE NEW FT-SE OKAY.

NEW FT-SE OKAY. RIGHT. OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING YOU WERE NOT HIRING ANY FULL TIME.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BRAND NEW CREATED POSITION. OKAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I HAVE A CLARIFICATION.

YES, MA'AM. WHEN WE SAY THAT CERTAIN PROJECTS DID NOT QUALIFY BECAUSE THE ECONOMIC SITUATION CHANGED. CAN YOU CAN. DOES ANYONE KNOW? IS. IS IT BECAUSE SALARIES WENT UP OR BECAUSE HIGHER INCOME PEOPLE MOVED IN? IT'S HIGHER INCOME. SO THE INCOME OF THAT AREA, THAT CENSUS TRACT, IT HAS TO BE BELOW 51%. IS THAT IT HAS TO BE 51% OR MORE.

CORRECT. AND SO JUST MORE BELOW YOU HAVE A HIGHER INCOME THRESHOLD NOW LIVING IN THAT COMMUNITY.

SO IT COULD BE MAYBE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND PEOPLE ARE STILL THERE.

THEY'RE STILL THERE. BUT NOW YOU HAVE SOME HIGHER INCOME PEOPLE PROBABLY OFFSETTING THEM TOO.

AND IF I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS PROJECT IN PARTICULAR, BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE LINE, MAYBE THEY WERE AT 49% BEFORE OR SOMETHING. YEAH.

YOU KNOW, A BRAND NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH MARKET RATE HOUSES THAT COULD HAVE THROWN THEM OVER THE.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED. YEAH. THANK YOU. IT WAS YOU YOU YOU'RE IT'S YOUR INCOME OFFSETTING THE.

HEY, LISTEN, THAT'S PUBLIC RECORD. EVERYBODY KNOWS WE KNOW RODNEY.

IT WAS YOU. I JUST HAVE TO NARROW IN ON THAT POINT AND SAY THAT I SEE WHAT YOU SEE AS WELL,

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MA'AM, IN THAT. AND I SEE THE THE PARADIGM THAT THAT IS.

AND IT FRUSTRATES ME, HONESTLY. BECAUSE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED.

YOU SAID IT FLAT OUT, MAN. THE POOR PEOPLE ARE STILL THERE.

EVERYBODY'S STILL THERE. THE NEED IS TOTALLY STILL THERE.

AND THEN ON THE FLIP SIDE OF IT, ALL OF THIS, YOU KNOW, GROCERY SUMMARY, SUMMARIZE AND SAY GENTRIFICATION.

BUT THAT'S A LITTLE TOO FAR. BUT ALL OF THIS IMPROVEMENT HAS BROUGHT IN, SAY, IMPACT FEES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.

IMPACT FEES CAN'T BE USED ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT NEW.

SO WE CAN'T MAKE A NEW PARK BECAUSE ONE, THERE'S NO WAY OR TWO WE CAN'T.

SO WE WANTED TO BRING, YOU KNOW, SAFE ROUTES TO IT AND REALLY MAKE THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND BUILD COMMUNITY ON IT.

AND NOW, SINCE THE SCALE HAS TIPPED BY, I THINK STAFF MENTIONED LITERALLY LIKE THE 2% LIKE IT SWITCHED FROM 51 TO 49.

THESE FOLKS IN THIS AREA AND FRANKLY SPEAKING, OUR CITY CAN'T, CAN'T CAPTURE THAT.

I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS AT LIBERTY PARK, AN AREA THAT'S STILL IN NEED AND WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE LOSING THEM TO THAT SPECIFIC AREA AND THAT OVERALL, IT WAS A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT, IN MY OPINION, PLAN FOR THE SIDEWALKS IN THAT AREA.

IT'S VERY MUCH NEEDED AND THE NEED IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY THE FUNDING SOURCE HAS AND THAT IS JUST MAKE THAT REALLY CHAPS ME, TO BE HONEST.

YEAH. OKAY. WELL, I'LL JUST REITERATE FOR THE FUTURE, WHEN YOU'RE OVER THE HIRING FREEZE, THAT I REALLY WANT YOU TO HAVE THE IN HOUSE INSPECTOR, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT NEED FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT.

SO WHEN WHEN MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE CAN REVISIT THAT.

BUT. SO I'LL PUT YOUR COMMENTS DOWN. YES. BECAUSE, I MEAN, I FIRSTHAND HAVE SEEN THAT IN THE CITY OF MELBOURNE HAVING THAT IN-HOUSE INSPECTOR IN THE HOUSING DIVISION. AND I THINK IT'S VERY USEFUL.

AND I DO THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET INTO A STICKY SITUATION WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING PERMIT FEE REVENUE AND HOW YOU'RE PROPERLY TRACKING AND ALLOCATING THAT PERSON'S TIME. AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT I PRESUME THAT THEY'RE VERY, VERY BUSY, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEIR PAY IS BEING CHARGED TO.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO END UP CONTRACTING THIS OUT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NEXT YEAR IF THAT'S REVISITED AND TO CREATE THAT, THAT FULL TIME EMPLOYEE FOR THE FUTURE. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT POPULATIONS FLUCTUATE AND WE WE HAVE A PROSPERITY INITIATIVE AND WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE SAYING THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER AND THEY REALLY HAVEN'T.

YEAH, I SEE YOUR POINT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HER COMMENT.

SO I'M TRYING. SHE'S SAYING THAT IT SENDS KIND OF THE IMAGE THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER IN THAT AREA, IN THAT LOCATION, BUT REALLY IT HASN'T. YOU JUST HAVE OTHER PEOPLE NOW LIVING THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE GOING BY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE SO THERE'S NO BAN OF TIME LIKE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT. IT MIGHT IT COULD CHANGE BACK.

YEAH. THAT'S MY QUESTION. YEAH. YEAH. IT COULD CHANGE BACK.

JUST LIKE WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST INTRODUCED, THEY WERE ELIGIBLE IN THE CENSUS TRACK.

AND WHEN STAFF RECHECKED THE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT.

BUT IT'S ALSO VERY GOOD THAT THEY CHECKED THIS UP FRONT BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO DO THIS PROJECT AND THEN GO TO GET THE FUNDS, BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN THE MONEY BACK. SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROBLEM TOO.

SO BUT I THINK OUR STAFF DOES A GREAT JOB OF CHECKING THE ELIGIBILITY OF THE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT.

AND SO IF THAT CENSUS TRACK DOES CHANGE, I MEAN, YOU NEVER KNOW, MAYBE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT OR SOMETHING WILL BE BUILT IN THAT SAME AREA AND MAYBE THAT WILL DROP THE THE INCOME THRESHOLD DOWN.

I MEAN, IT CHANGES ALL THE TIME. SO BUT GOOD.

GOOD POINT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT.

WOULD WE LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THAT. I'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT IT BE APPROVED AS ACCORDING TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE. I VOTE AYE, AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

AND SO WE ARE ON OUR LAST ITEM, WHICH IS THE INFORMATIONAL STAFF REPORT.

[OTHER BOARD BUSINESS]

ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO GO OVER, DENISE OR. YES.

I DID WANT TO POINT OUT. I HOPE I CAN FIND IT.

THE SOUTH RIVER WOMEN'S CENTER, AND I KNOW BECKY WAS HERE.

SHE'S HERE? YEAH. THAT PROJECT WENT OUT TO BID, AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING A SPECIAL NOTE TO THAT.

THE SOUTH BOULEVARD WOMEN'S CENTER REHABILITATION PROJECT FOR TRANQUILITY COVE.

HOUSING PROJECT? WE THEY SENT OUT THE BIDS ON THE 21ST OF JANUARY, AND THEY OPENED THEM ON FEBRUARY THE 4TH.

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FIVE BIDS WERE SUBMITTED. THE LOWEST BIDDER BIDDER WAS HARLAN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL ON THAT PROJECT.

SO IT'S PUT ON HOLD RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GO BACK TO COUNCIL.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE BID AMOUNT IS SO CLOSE TO WHAT THEY WERE AWARDED, THEY DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH MONEY FOR CONTINGENCY.

AND IT'S A REHAB PROJECT THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT COMPLICATIONS.

I'M REALLY GLAD THAT THE WOMEN'S CENTER HIRED AN ARCHITECT BECAUSE HE'S BEEN ABLE TO ADVISE THEM ON WHAT THEY NEEDED AND AND ADVISE AND ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS, BECAUSE THEY GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS WHEN THEY HAD THE WALKTHROUGH.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO IT'S GOING TO TAKE THAT BACK TO COUNCIL AS SOON AS WE CAN TO GET CONTINGENCY MONEY. AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO START ON THE FOUR UNITS.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THE FOUR UNITS, AND THEN THEY WILL NEED TO SUBMIT IN OUR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR FOUR MORE UNITS TO BE DONE SO AND THAT THAT'S THROUGH SHIP.

CORRECT? YES. OKAY. THAT'S THROUGH SHIP. YES.

THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH SHIP. OKAY. AND THAT'S THE ONE AREA I WANT TO POINT OUT.

OKAY. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, BECKY. AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO.

THANK YOU. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON ANYTHING ELSE ON THE STAFF REPORT? THANK YOU. I'M HEARING NONE. OKAY. DID WE HAVE ANY OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD THIS EVENING? NO. VERY NICE. OKAY. SO WE WILL ADJOURN AT 7:01 P.M..

THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.