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ALRIGHTY, SO WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 606.
THIS IS THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD REGULAR MEETING FOR MARCH.
SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU ALL WILL JOIN.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU. AND THEN, IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO ROLL CALL.
LOGAN LEWIS HERE. REBECCA ZIEGLER, PRESENT. SUSAN CONNELLY HERE, JANE HIGGINS HERE, JESSICA LAVELLE. WE HAVE QUORUM. AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR NON-AGENDA ITEMS ONLY.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS ON AGENDA ITEMS. INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO SPEAK ON SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS CAN DO SO AT THE TIME WHEN THEY'RE BEING CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD.ALL SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES EACH, AND I HAVE ONE CARD, BUT I THINK IT'S SPECIFIC.
IS THAT RIGHT? I THINK SO. NO, IT'S NOT ON AN AGENDA ITEM.
IT'S NOT. IT'S ON NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA. OKAY. SO, ELLEN.
EILEEN. I'M SORRY. DID YOU YOU'RE SPEAKING ON AN AGENDA ITEM OR PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE BEGINNING? NOT AN AGENDA. OKAY. IF YOU WANTED TO COME DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE WILL HAVE WE'VE SCHEDULED A DEMO FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD FOR APRIL 30TH WITH AIR BURNERS.
IT'S A BIOCHAR SYSTEM THAT PREVENTS EMBERS FROM FLYING WHEN THEY PRODUCE IT.
AND IT WILL INCLUDE THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN USE IT TO PURIFY WATER, PURIFY AIR.
AND I WILL BE LEADING IT. IT'S GOING TO BE SORT OF A ZOOM TYPE THING BECAUSE THEY'RE WAY DOWN SOUTH.
AND I WILL BE EXPLAINING HOW I SEE THIS BEING BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY, BECAUSE I'VE COME TO THE CONCLUSION AFTER LOOKING AT THIS STUFF FOR PROBABLY SEVEN YEARS THAT YOU CAN'T CLEAN JUST THE WATER.
THIS SYSTEM IS, I BELIEVE, RANKED NUMBER ONE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IN DC.
THEY'RE THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE MUNICIPALITIES USE IT.
THE BIOCHAR CAN BE MADE AVAILABLE TO CITIZENS TO USE INSTEAD OF FERTILIZER.
AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS BOARD WILL ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO REQUIRE ANY NEW DEVELOPERS TO USE BIOCHAR INSTEAD OF FERTILIZER.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN. I'M LOOKING AT FILTERS FOR CAN I DO I HAVE TO STOP? NO. YOU'RE GOOD. NO. THAT WAS OKAY. THE FILTER FILTERS FOR THE CULVERTS.
WITH THE HOPE THAT AS WATER PASSES THROUGH THE CANALS, THROUGH THE CULVERTS, THAT BY THE TIME IT GETS TO THE MAIN PLANT, IT WILL BE SUPER CLEAN, BECAUSE BIOCHAR IS ANYWHERE FROM 97% TO 99.9% IN REMOVING ALL CHEMICALS AND TOXINS, NOT JUST BACTERIA. AND THE OTHER HOPE IS THAT WE CAN ALSO PUT THEM IN THE HOLDING PONDS WHEREVER WE HAVE THEM.
AND MAYBE INCREASE THE GROUNDWATER AND ULTIMATELY LINE THE CANALS THE SAME WAY.
AND IF WE HAVE THIS EQUIPMENT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE IT.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY ROCKS OR WHATEVER ELSE THERE IS.
OR SAND? I SEE IT AS BEING SOMETHING VERY BENEFICIAL.
AND I WILL BE TALKING TO A SOIL SPECIALIST AND SOMEONE FROM THE EPA IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
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SO HOPEFULLY I'LL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION I NEED TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE TO YOU, BUT I'M TOLD THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS CRUCIAL TO GETTING IT.YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS GOING TO CARRY A LOT OF WEIGHT AS FAR AS THE COUNCIL GOES.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON APRIL 30TH.
YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE WE ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS OR.
YEAH, IF YOU'D LIKE. CAN WOULD YOU SEND A LITTLE WRITE UP? BECAUSE I COULD GET THAT IN THE CONRADINA NEWSLETTER.
AND THAT WOULD HELP MORE PEOPLE EVEN LEARN ABOUT IT.
SURE. AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEED IT THIS WEEKEND.
NEED IT? THIS. YEAH. SO. OR DO YOU HAVE A WEBSITE I COULD GO TO AND JUST PULL OFF SOME INFORMATION.
SURE I CAN. I CAN SEND YOU SOME OF THE COMPANIES, I HAVE THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES THAT CAN DO CUSTOMIZED TEA BAGS, WHICH IS WHAT THEY CALL WHAT THEY PUT THE CHA IN FOR THE FILTERS.
SO WHATEVER YOU CAN GET ME. YES. OKAY, THANKS.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. ALL RIGHT. SO, GOING INTO NEW BUSINESS. SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE NEW BUILDING COMING UP NEXT TO US.
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BUILDING E ON CITY HALL CAMPUS. AND MR. TOM POTTS WITH W AND J CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.IT ALREADY LOOKS REALLY, REALLY COOL HERE. WHAT WE HAVE PRINTED OUT.
SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, I'M TOM POTTS.
A MINOR CORRECTION, I'M WITH CEILING ARCHITECTS.
OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, PAST OWNER AND A LEAD PROJECT MANAGER.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THE WANING PART OF MY CAREER.
SO, FOR WHATEVER THAT'S WORTH VERY PLEASED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU.
I KNOW THAT YOU'RE YOU HAVE ARE INTERESTED, HAVE BEEN INTERESTED.
CLEARLY THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED. AND SO THINKING ABOUT ADDRESSING THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD PUTTING TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION, SOME ITEMS THAT ARE JUST GENERAL IN NATURE TO TALK ABOUT WITH THE BUILDING, JUST TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH IT AND THEN HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS, THE SUSTAINABLE FEATURES OF THE BUILDING.
JUST REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING ORGANIZATION, THE SITE UTILIZATION SITE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR ON SITE WATER MANAGEMENT.
FLORIDA-FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE ON THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION.
AND KIND OF TOUCH ON A FEW THINGS ON ENERGY PERFORMANCE AND HIGHLIGHT THE FUTURE.
SO I IMAGINE THERE'S PROBABLY NOT ANY ONE OF YOU AT THE BOARD THAT'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WORD LEED CERTIFICATION OR GREEN SEAL OR ANY OF THE CERTIFICATIONS. THE THE WAY THAT THOSE BUILDINGS ARE RATED OR ASSESSED FROM A SUSTAINABILITY STANDPOINT, WHAT'S ON THAT NEXT SLIDE IS JUST KIND OF SOME, SOME TYPICAL CATEGORIES THAT WHEN WE AS DESIGNERS STEP BACK, WHETHER A BUILDING IS CERTIFIED OR NOT AND YOU APPROACH SUSTAINABLE DESIGN, THERE'S ABOUT NINE OR MORE AREAS THAT YOU CONCERN YOURSELF WITH AS A DESIGNER.
A LOT OF THOSE THINGS ARE TAKEN OUT OF YOUR HANDS.
BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, LOCATION AND TRANSPORTATION, IF YOU GO TO SITE SELECTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN A CUSTOMER COMES TO YOU, THE SITE'S ALREADY BEEN DETERMINED.
AND SO YOU KNOW, THE NEXT THING IS THERE ARE SUSTAINABLE SITES.
A LOT OF SITES, IF YOU'RE GOING WITH, LET'S SAY, A BUILDING THAT IS NET ZERO, YOU LOOK FOR A SITE THAT SO IT HAS NO I'M SURE YOU KNOW WHAT A NET ZERO BUILDING IS, RIGHT? IT HAS NO IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT SUSTAINS ITSELF IN A SITE SELECTION LIKE THAT OR THAT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT IS NET ZERO AND YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO FIND A SITE THAT CAN PRODUCE ON ITS OWN SITE, ITS OWN ENERGY THAT IS IDEAL.
AND SO A LOT OF SITES AND WHEN IN DESIGN YOU DON'T HAVE THAT BENEFIT.
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AND SO YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT YOU HAVE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED WITH WATER EFFICIENCY ENERGY IN THE ATMOSPHERE THE MATERIALS THAT WE USE ON THE BUILDING.AND THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE WAY THAT A BUILDING IS DELIVERED NOWADAYS THAT COMPARED TO THE WAY THAT A BUILDING WAS DESIGNED, BID AND BUILT IN THE PAST, A LOT OF THAT HAS CHANGED PROBABLY OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES, WHERE THERE'S MUCH MORE INTEROPERABILITY AND INTEGRATION BETWEEN THE DESIGNER AND THE BUILDER.
AND A LOT OF THAT'S HAPPENING. AND YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD THE TERM CONSTRUCTION MANAGER RISK, WHERE THAT IS, WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD WHO WHO IS INTEGRATED WITH THE DESIGNER VERY EARLY ON IN THE PROJECT SO THAT THEY CAN WORK OUT A LOT OF THE NUANCES OF THE DESIGN AND THE BUILDING COST.
AND SO AGAIN, SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE TAKEN OUT OF OUR HANDS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY PREDETERMINED.
BUDGETS ARE PREDETERMINED, THE SITE IS PREDETERMINED, THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING, ALL OF THAT.
AND SO YOU TRY TO DO WHAT YOU CAN WITH WHAT YOU'RE THE CARDS THAT YOU'RE DEALT.
SO I LOVE THIS VIEW. I THINK IT SAYS A LOT TO PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW, THE FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE BUILDING, THE IDEA THAT IT HAS TO FIT WITHIN THE CAMPUS.
AND WHAT WHAT I SEE IS A OR WHAT WE TRY TO DO WAS A VERY MODERN PALM BAY, FLORIDA BUILDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ONE THAT IS RESPECTFUL OF THE BUILDING LANGUAGE, THE SCALE AND THE USE OF MATERIALS THAT ARE ALREADY PRESENT ON THIS CAMPUS.
SO YOU KNOW THAT I'VE GOT ANOTHER VIEW OF THIS.
I LOVE THE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO APPLAUD THE THE COMPANY THAT DOES THESE RENDERINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO PHOTOREALISTIC AND BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS DUST SHOT AND YOU CAN SEE THAT FRONT JEWEL OF A OF A BOX, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
THAT IS ADDRESSING TOWARD MALABAR AND THEN A VERY SIMPLY ORDERED BUILDING DOWN THE WEST ELEVATION.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE HINT OF THE PHOTOVOLTAICS THAT ARE ON THE ROOF.
ALSO, I THINK THIS VIEW ALSO SHOWS YOU IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO ROW OF PHOTOVOLTAICS, TAKES.
AND SO THAT'S A COMPONENT OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.
I LOVE THE WAY THAT THE BUILDING THE HARDSCAPE AND THE LANDSCAPE INTEGRATION AND GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING THAT WE'VE GOT ON THE BUILDING. THE SCOPE OF THE BUILDING, IT'S ROUGHLY JUST SHORT OF 40,000FT².
YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN SAID THAT THE MOST SUSTAINABLE BUILDING IS THE BUILDING THAT DOESN'T GET BUILT, YOU KNOW, BUT AND I APPLAUD THE CITY BECAUSE THIS SITE IS IT'S FULL AND YOU HAVE A VERY GROWING PALM BAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE CITY WAS YOU KNOW, THEY WERE FAR ENOUGH SIGHTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD VISION TO KNOW THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, AND THE CITY NEEDED TO UTILIZE ITS RESOURCES IN PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE STACKED FLOOR PLANS AT THE TOP.
THE THIRD FLOOR IS PREPARED FOR FUTURE OFFICE BUILDING, WHATEVER THE NEED MIGHT BE.
BUT THE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR OR NOT, BUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND THE CENTRAL IT DEPARTMENT ARE GOING TO BE LOCATED IN THE BUILDING ON THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.
AND THE ANOTHER FEATURE OF THIS BUILDING IS THAT THE CITY NEEDED A PLACE TO OPERATE DURING EMERGENCIES LIKE STORMS, HURRICANES AND WHAT HAVE YOU. SO THE PROJECT INCLUDES A LARGE GENERATOR.
AND SO IT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE, THE, THE, THE EMERGENCY PROCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME FOR A WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE, WHICH IS A NICE FEATURE WHEN WHEN OBVIOUSLY WHEN POWER'S OUT.
THIS IS A VIEW OF COMING IN FROM THE NORTHWEST OFF OF MALABAR.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE REALLY KIND OF KEY THINGS THERE, THE WHITE IT SHOULD BE, IT PROBABLY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS CAMPUS, YOU KNOW, THE COLOR OF THE BRICK YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF THE WHITE COLONNADES THAT ARE WITHIN THE BUILDING.
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AND THEN THAT COMPONENT THAT'S TOWARD MALABAR, THAT TALL CEREAL BOX THAT'S SITTING THERE, IS KIND OF A KIND OF A STATEMENT THAT ANCHORS THE BUILDING WITH THAT GLASS COMPONENT THAT'S IN THE FRONT.AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A VERY IT'S A VERY MODERN PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
TO ME. I THINK THAT'S WHAT THAT SAYS. WHEN YOU ENTER THE BUILDING, THERE IS AN OUTER LOBBY, AND THEN THERE'S AN INNER LOBBY WHICH YOU CAN SEE THOSE THAT WHITE COMPONENT THERE.
THAT WHITE PILLAR, IF YOU WILL, GOES INTO THE INNER LOBBY.
BUT WHAT I THINK ABOUT WHEN I SEE THIS IS THE COLOR PALETTE IS VERY LIGHT AND VERY COMFORTABLE.
I THINK, FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE IN, IT'S ALSO DURABLE, SUSTAINABLE MATERIALS THAT ARE THERE.
AND I THINK IT'S A VERY PLEASANT WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR, EXCUSE ME WHEN YOU FIRST WALK IN THE DOOR AND THEN MOVING ON THERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT LOBBY. AND SO WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS RIGHT OUT FRONT, YOU'VE GOT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND INFORMATION DESK THAT'S THERE THAT GREETS YOU, AND IT TELLS YOU THE UTILITIES ON THE LEFT AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS ON THE RIGHT.
THERE ARE TOTAL YOU CAN SEE THE 15 TO THE FAR RIGHT.
SO WHEN CONTRACTORS COME SUBMIT THEIR PLANS AND TO GET PERMITTED, THAT'S THIS IS WHERE THEY START.
SO IT'S VERY CUSTOMER FRIENDLY SPACE THAT IS THERE.
AND THEN UTILITIES WORKS ITS WAY BACK AROUND HERE TO THE LEFT.
LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE I GUESS SUSTAINABLE TECHNICAL DISCUSSION, IF YOU WILL.
I THINK THIS, THIS GRAPHIC KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW WE'RE TREATING THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.
AND HOW THAT BUILDING. AND THEN IF YOU GO AROUND TO THE WINTER SOLSTICE, YOU CAN SEE THE DARK RED.
SO IT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF HOW THE SUN IS GOING TO IMPACT THE BUILDING.
NOW, WHAT IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A SENSE IS, IS THE ANGLE OF THE SUN IN THE SKY.
BUT IT DOES GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE DIRECTION OF THE SUN.
WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT THE PUBLIC ENTRY OR THE PUBLIC FACE OF THE BUILDING IS TO THE NORTH, AND IT'S WONDERFUL. YOU CAN GET A NORTH FACING DOOR BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE DIRECT SUNLIGHT COMING IN.
AND SO WE'VE IF YOU RECALL, AND I'LL SHOW YOU, I'LL SHOW YOU AN IMAGE.
YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY SEEN IT, BUT THERE IS A NICE TRAINING ROOM THAT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEN HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE SUN, ESPECIALLY ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND THE WEST ELEVATION AS THE SUN LATER ON IN THE DAY? SO THIS IS A YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT DESIGNERS, YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO.
AND, AND THAT'S PART OF DESCRIBES PART OF WHY THE BUILDING IS IN PART THE WAY THAT IT IS.
I KNOW THAT YOU FOLKS, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT YOU FOLKS DURING.
PERHAPS IF YOU DROVE DOWN MALABAR, YOU SAW THOSE LARGE CORRUGATED METAL PIPES THAT ARE THERE.
THAT IS OUR IN-GROUND EXFILTRATION SYSTEM. SO, YOU KNOW, OUR CHALLENGE WAS TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENT FOR PARKING BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S PRETTY STRENUOUS TO BE ABLE TO GIVEN OUR AVAILABLE PROPERTY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO PARK AND MEET THE CODE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO MEET YOUR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND YOUR RUNOFF FOR THE MELBOURNE MELBOURNE, TILLMAN WATER CANAL SO YOU COULD SEE THE RED AREAS.
THERE ARE THREE SEPARATE AREAS THERE WHERE WHERE STORMWATER IS COLLECTED MAINTAINED AND THEN THE THE RUNOFF VERY MINIMALLY WOULD BE INTO THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN CANAL. ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS OR ANYTHING ELSE I'VE TALKED ABOUT SO FAR? OKAY. WE HAVE WE HAVE A FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE.
AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH WITH FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE.
AND THE LADY WAS TALKING A MOMENT AGO ABOUT WAYS OF BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THAT.
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YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NICE MIX OF PALM TREES AND DECIDUOUS TREES LIKE ELMS AND OAKS, AND YOU'VE GOT MEXICAN PALMS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.SO IT'S VERY SOFTENED. OFTEN. THIS IS THIS IS THE EAST ELEVATION.
BUT THE PIECE THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT IS ON THE FAR LEFT SIDE IS THAT IS THE STAFF STAIR.
AND WHAT'S A NICE FEATURE ABOUT THIS IS, IS THAT THAT STAIRWELL LOOKS DOWN INTO THE PUBLIC PLAZA, WHICH IS RIGHT OUT HERE. SO IT'S REALLY A NICE FEATURE.
AS YOU'RE CIRCULATING FROM ONE FLOOR TO THE NEXT AND BREAKS UP THAT ELEVATION.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE WALK, ABOUT THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THAT BRICK IS A BRICK PANEL THAT'S PUT INTO IT.
IT'S TILT UP. AND THAT'S A VERY COMMON CONSTRUCTION IN FLORIDA.
WHAT YOU SEE THERE IN THE SECOND WITH THE LEFT WHERE THE RED DASHED LINES ARE, THOSE ARE OUTLINED.
THOSE ARE EACH ONE OF THE WINDOWS, BUT OTHERWISE.
AND SO THE PERCENTAGE OF WINDOW OPENING TO WALL SPACE IS MINIMIZED.
AND SO IN ORDER TO MITIGATE ALL OF THAT NATURAL LIGHT, WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS AN L SHAPED SUNSHADE THAT WILL BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF EVERY ONE OF THOSE WINDOWS. SO YOU CAN SEE IN THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT SHOWS THAT THAT LITTLE CLIP THERE, THAT WHITE COMPONENT THAT IS OVER THE TOP OF THE WINDOW.
THEN IT GOES DOWN THE SIDE OF THE WINDOW AND THEN THE RED I JUST HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
IF YOU WERE TO LOOK OR TAKE A CUT THROUGH THE BUILDING AND LOOK AT THE SIDE OF IT, THAT GIVES YOU THE THE SHOWS YOU THE WAY THAT THAT IS COMING DOWN AND PROTECTING THOSE WINDOWS. THIS IS A THIS IS A VIEW OF THE TRAINING ROOM THAT IS AGAIN NORTH FACING TO MALABAR. AND I THINK THE CITY WILL DEFINITELY A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THAT SPACE TO BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR TRAINING PURPOSES AND PROBABLY PUBLIC MEETINGS OR WHATEVER.
VERY NICE SPACE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO, AND I APPRECIATE THE CITY BUYING INTO THE EXPENSE OF THE, THE PERIMETER OFFICES, THAT ELEMENT THAT THE IMAGE THAT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE THAT'S A KIND OF A CARICATURE OF THE OFFICE FRONTS.
SO YOU SEE THERE'S THE BEIGE ARE DOORS INTO THE.
EACH ONE OF THE OFFICES AND THERE'S, THERE'S A LEVEL OF GLASS THERE.
SO THE THINKING IS THAT IF YOU CAN BORROW LIGHT, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE USE OF YOUR MAN MADE LIGHT IS, IS LESS. SO IT'S A NICE FEATURE OF THE BUILDING DESIGN.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BUILDING SYSTEMS. PROBABLY THE BIGGEST THING IS THAT NUMBER AT THE TOP.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DESIGN, YOU HAVE TO MEET 100.
YOU HAVE TO MEET 100% OR LESS OF A BUILDING'S ENERGY CONSUMPTION BASELINE.
SO THERE'S DATA OUT THERE ON IF YOU HAVE A THREE STORY OFFICE BUILDING IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION, IT PROJECTS ON WHAT YOUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION IS SUPPOSED IT SHOULD HAVE.
IT HAS TO MEET A CERTAIN TARGET, AND WE ARE 73% OR 26.8% BELOW PROJECTED BELOW AN ACTUAL ENERGY CONSUMPTION BY BUILDINGS, BY WHAT THE STANDARD IS. SO I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S AN EXCELLENT NUMBER, GIVEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DID HAVE SOME RESTRAINTS WITH WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH THE BUILDING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SOME NICE THINGS THAT OUR HVAC SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, WE USE, IT'S IT'S ZONED.
SO THE BUILDING IS ZONED AND IT'S USING A VARIABLE AIR VOLUME SYSTEM.
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AND THEN WE DO HAVE A HEAT RECOVERY BY USING THE EXCHANGE OF REFRIGERANT.SO THAT'S MORE TRADITIONAL AND JUST REGULAR, BETTER THAN TRADITIONAL ELECTRIC HEAT.
AND IT'S HOPED THAT IF YOU'RE IN AN OFFICE AND YOU'RE ON THAT SIDE AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THAT NATURAL LIGHT OR WHATEVER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TURN YOUR, YOUR LIGHTS OFF AND YOU'RE GOING TO TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF IN YOUR OFFICE. OUR PLUMBING USES LOW FLOW, LOW FLOW WATER FIXTURES.
SO THAT'S A NICE SUSTAINABLE FEATURE OF THE BUILDING AS WELL.
IT STARTED WITH THIS IDEA ON THE RIGHT, ORGANIZE OUR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.
AND SO THOSE TWO BLUE FIELDS ON THE PLAN ON THE LEFT IS THE ARRANGEMENT FOR PHOTOVOLTAICS.
AND THEN PART OF THAT STUDY INCLUDED. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT WE'D BE ABLE TO PRODUCE ABOUT 122 KW OR A 10% ENERGY OFFSET. AND SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE COST AT THE TIME THIS WAS DONE IN 2022.
THE THE PROJECTED PAYBACK ON THAT WAS 17 YEARS AFTER CREDIT.
SO AND I HOPE HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT A QUESTION OR TWO THAT I CAN ADDRESS.
IF NOT, THAT'S FINE. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL LET HER GO FIRST.
OH. GOOD QUESTION. CAN YOU CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON SOLAR FEATURES? WELL, THE THE PRIMARY SOLAR FEATURE.
AND HOPEFULLY THE CITY WILL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
WOULD BE THE PHOTOVOLTAICS TO START WITH. AND THEN IT'S THE USE OF NATURAL LIGHT WITHIN THE BUILDING AND TO REDUCE DEMAND ON POWER. AND SO IT'S BEING ABLE TO SHARE THE NATURAL LIGHT THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE WINDOWS DURING OPERATIONAL BETWEEN OFFICE HOURS, TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THE INTERNAL PARTS OF THE BUILDING. SO.
THANK YOU. ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE LANDSCAPING.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE USE OF FLORIDA NATIVE.
AND SO THE PICTURES YOU HAVE DON'T SHOW THAT MUCH DETAIL.
I GUESS THE LANDSCAPE WILL COME LATER AT THE COMPLETION, SO TO SPEAK.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE FINAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.
ONCE THEY GET ALL OF THE HARDSCAPE IN THE SIDEWALKS, THE PAVING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
THEN THE LAST THING YOU'LL START TO SEE, THE ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING COME IN.
I WANT TO COMMENT ON YOUR PRESENTATION. IT WAS SO REFRESHING TO HEAR YOU SAY YOU, THE ARCHITECT, LOVE THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING. THANK YOU. AND THAT MAKES ME LOVE IT AS WELL.
I ENJOY LOOKING AT A BUILDING AND KNOWING ABOUT IT AND FEELING UPLIFTED BY THE DESIGN. AND I HEAR THAT FROM YOU. AND THAT IS A REAL GIFT TO OUR CITY.
THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. THE BUILDINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO INSPIRE US.
SO YEAH. THANK YOU. IT HAS. OKAY. I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE, DO YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE SUSTAINABLE PRACTICES THAT YOU'VE INCORPORATED INTO THIS? BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING AT OUR NEXT SUSTAINABILITY FAIR, REALLY HIGHLIGHTING AND SHOWCASING THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME POSTER BOARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
I'M GUESSING I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I'M GUESSING YOU'VE CREATED SOME PUBLICITY INTERNAL TO YOUR FIRM ON HOW AWESOME THIS IS FOR SUSTAINABILITY THAT MAYBE WE COULD BORROW. YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ANY, LIKE, LIST MATERIAL, BUT I WOULD SAY THIS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU, WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
HOWEVER, I COULD ASSIST YOU IN IN PUTTING THAT TOGETHER.
I THINK WHEN I WAS HERE IN JANUARY, I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
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SO IT WOULD JUST BE A BIG WIN WIN. MY OTHER QUESTION IS I NOTICED THAT YOU'RE USING FLORIDA-FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE WHICH DOESN'T JUST EQUAL FLORIDA NATIVE PLANTS ENTIRELY.WAS THERE A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER THAT YOU WORKED WITH? THAT IS IT TOO LATE TO TRY TO INFLUENCE THAT? PROBABLY. OR IT PROBABLY HAS. SO, YES. OKAY. BECAUSE YOU DO, YOU KNOW THAT I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS AS PART OF THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES, BEST PRACTICES THAT NATIVE PLANTS ARE LIKE A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT.
AND ALTHOUGH FLORIDA-FRIENDLY PLANTS ARE AWESOME FROM A MAINTENANCE POINT OF VIEW, IT'S THE NATIVE PLANTS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE THE FAR BIGGER IMPACT ON THE WATER QUALITY. SO I'M I'M SORRY THAT IT'S KIND OF TOO LATE.
I'M SAD ABOUT THAT, BUT I HOPE IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE THAT WE.
I'D LOVE TO WORK WITH Y'ALL ON THAT SOME MORE.
SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN DO, THE BETTER. SO. YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SURE. YOU HAVE A QUESTION? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME HERE THIS EVENING. I'M LOOKING AT THE 17 YEAR PAYBACK PERIOD, AND THAT'S ASSUMING THE COST OF ELECTRICITY DOESN'T GO UP. IS THAT ASSUMING TODAY'S PRICE? SO IT'S LIKELY THE THE PRICES DON'T USUALLY GO DOWN MUCH.
YEAH. THANK YOU. SO THAT COULD COME DOWN QUICKER.
ALSO, I'M ASSUMING ALL OF THIS IS HURRICANE READY.
LIKE THE WINDOWS, THE GLASS, EVERYTHING. ALL OF THAT.
FROM A BUILDING CODE STANDPOINT, IT HAS TO BE. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. SO THIS COULD BE A SHELTER.
YOU COULD SHELTER IN PLACE HERE IF YOU HAD TO.
IN THE EVENT, I THINK THAT WAS ALSO PART OF WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH THE EMERGENCY.
IT'S NOT REALLY AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER, BUT IT'S IT'S KIND OF HEDGING IN THAT DIRECTION.
AND SO THE WAY THAT IT WAS BUILT AND THE WAY THAT THE GENERATOR HAD TO SUPPORT THE OPERATION, AND I THINK IT WAS A VERY GOOD THING THAT THE CITY IS, YOU KNOW, FORESIGHT THAT THEY'RE THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT HAVING THAT PLACE AND BEING ABLE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC WHEN WE HAVE STORMS. SO. AND SO THEY'VE GOT SPACE AND THE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO USE IT LIKE THE FIRST FLOOR, I THINK HAS A SHOWER, FOR EXAMPLE, OR TWO SHOWERS OR WHATEVER.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAD TO IF THE FOLKS, THE KEY PERSONNEL, THE, YOU KNOW, HAD TO STAY THERE AND MANAGE THE STORM AND THE EMERGENCY, THERE'S THERE'S A PLACE FOR THAT. YEAH.
I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR KEEPING CRITICAL SERVICES AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, DURING EMERGENCIES LIKE, SO BATTERY BACKUP FOR THE SOLAR SO THEY DON'T LOSE POWER GENERATOR.
YEAH. THOSE ARE. YAY! THANK YOU. AWESOME. NO NO QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING.
FROM MY SIDE. BUT I REALLY DO LIKE HOW IT'S TURNING OUT.
I LOVE ALL THE SUSTAINABLE CONSERVATION EFFORTS THAT ARE GOING INTO IT.
SO GREAT JOB, AS SUSAN WAS SAYING AS WELL. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION OR. OKAY. DO YOU MIND ANSWERING INTEGRATED.
YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS KIND OF INTEGRATED, LIKE IT DOESN'T LOOK JARRINGLY DIFFERENT FROM THE PRESENT.
YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS A TRICK. IT'S ALWAYS A IT'S ALWAYS A CHALLENGE TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT RELATES TO IF THERE'S ALREADY AN ESTABLISHED ARCHITECTURE, BUT YET IT NEEDS TO BE A BUILDING OF ITS TIME.
IT'S ALWAYS A JUGGLING ACT. SO I NOTICED THE BRICK AND I WAS LIKE, OH, THE COLOR.
AND THEN I LOOKED AT THIS BUILDING. I WAS LIKE, OH, IT MATCHES. VERY COOL.
DO YOU MIND? I THINK MR. BILL MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS.
WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THE MC, BUT I.
KNOW THE ROUTINE. YOU KNOW THE ROUTINE. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.
I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE WAS I WAS LOOKING AT THE WATER STORM WATER RUNOFF AND HOW THAT HOW WAS IT ACCESSING INTO THE TILGHMAN CANAL? I SEE IT FOR THE RETENTION WITHIN THE PARKING LOT, WHICH IS GOOD.
THE RETENTION POND. BUT HOW WAS IT ACCESSING FROM THERE TO THE TILGHMAN CANAL? I DIDN'T SEE THAT ONE. THE SECOND ONE WAS THE ALUMINUM WINDOW FOR THE WINDSHIELD.
WHAT THE WHAT THE REPERCUSSION OF THE SPIN OFFS ARE GOING TO BE IF SOMEBODY'S SEEN THAT INFORMATION,
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WHICH WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW. I LOVE THE IDEA BECAUSE IT'S JUST A CHEAP SUNSCREEN, WHICH IS BEAUTIFUL.AND THE THIRD ITEM I WAS NOT SO HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT AND THAT WAS OCCUPANT OCCUPANCY SENSORS.
AND THIS IS EMBARRASSING, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY IT ANYHOW.
WHEN YOU REACH MY AGE, THINGS DON'T WORK QUITE THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.
IT'S VERY IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING. AND IT DOES HAPPEN.
AND YOU'RE IN THE RESTROOM, SO MAYBE YOU CAN EXTEND THE TIME ON THOSE SENSORS IN THERE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAN. I'M VERY HAPPY THAT IT'S NEVER HAPPENED TO ME, BUT I'VE I HEARD HORROR STORIES OF YOU KNOW, THE CODE REQUIRES OCCUPANCY SENSORS, AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS YOU HAVE TO BE SMART ENOUGH TO POSITION THE OCCUPANCY SENSORS IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU PICK UP AND DETECT THE TECHNOLOGY IS GETTING BETTER. BUT DEALING WITH TOILET STALLS IS A PRETTY CHALLENGING THING.
SO MAYBE, MAYBE MY RETIREMENT. I CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO DESIGN FOR THAT.
THAT WOULD WOULD WOULD DEAL WITH IT. SO THE THE RUNOFF.
I WAS TO ADDRESS A GENTLEMAN'S QUESTION. THERE IT IT DOES HAVE IT IS INTRODUCED INTO THE TO THE CANAL AFTER LIKE, IF IT WERE WHEN IT REACHES AN OVERFLOW CAPACITY, WHICH IS MINIMAL. I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT SHOWS ON THE PLAN.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, BUT BUT IT'S VERY, BUT IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT IT WON'T.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT IT WOULD FILL UP AND THEN IT'S IT, IT GOES INTO THE SOIL AND WOULDN'T IT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE, THE THE CANAL. AND SO OCCUPANCY SENSORS AND THEN YOU WERE, YOU WERE QUESTIONING THE, ESPECIALLY THE GLAZING THAT'S ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THE WIND BREAKS ON THE WINDOWS FOR THE FOR THE ALUMINUM.
OH, OKAY. THE LITTLE OKAY. THE LITTLE EYEBROWS THAT ARE OVER THE, OVER THE WINDOWS AND BEING ABLE TO WITHSTAND I GUESS HURRICANE IMPACT IS, IS IS PART OF IT. AND THE EFFECT ON THE WINDOWS.
IT'S A REALLY GOOD IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. YOU KNOW, STRUCTURALLY AS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT DEALS WITH THE INSTALL AND THE ANCHORAGE SYSTEM OF THE OF THE COMPONENTS THEMSELVES. SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT TACKED UP.
THEY'RE THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BOLTED TO THE WALL.
AND SO I HOPE I DON'T I WOULD BE VERY DISAPPOINTED IF WE HAD A STORM.
AND I GOT A CALL FROM THE CITY AND ONE OF THEM WAS LOOSE OR WHATEVER.
THAT WOULDN'T BE A VERY GOOD THING, RIGHT? THE CITY MANAGER.
THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER CALL ME WOULD NOT BE GOOD.
I'M I'M I'M CONFIDENT THAT THE ANCHORAGES IS GOOD BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE HANDS OF THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO CALCULATE THEM, YOU KNOW, FROM A WIND PRESSURE STANDPOINT ANYWAY.
AND IT'S INSTALLED. SO IT HAS TO MEET A BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENT.
SO THAT'S PART OF THE THAT'S PART OF THE FAIL SAFE SYSTEM AS WELL.
SO I HOPE THAT'S SOMEWHAT COMFORTABLE. I WAS JUST GOING LIKE WHEN THE WINDS ARE SEVERE AND IT GETS DONE GETTING THE JETTY EFFECT WITH THE WITH THE WIND AND THE RAIN. AND EACH ONE OF THE WINDOWS HAS A POWER WASHER AND EACH ONE OF THE WINDOWS.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S CURIOUS TO SEE WHERE THE WHERE THAT RESEARCH WAS.
WITH THE EFFECT OF THE WIND WATER JETTIES WOULD BE IN THAT.
NO, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR POINT VERY, VERY MUCH.
AND I WISH I HAD A BETTER ANSWER FOR YOU ABOUT DUE DILIGENCE ON OUR PART AND ITS CALCULATION.
SO I GUESS I COULD JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT THERE AT THIS POINT. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. ALL RIGHT, AGAIN, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND APPRECIATE IT.
AND I CAN PERHAPS WORK THROUGH JULIETTE. AND IN WHATEVER ASSISTANCE I CAN PROVIDE FOR YOUR.
WELL, YEAH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR EXPERTISE HERE AND GOING THROUGH IT ALL.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. MY PLEASURE. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL NOW GO INTO OTHER BUSINESS.
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I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT ONE. SO OTHER BUSINESS.[OTHER BUSINESS]
SO GOING INTO SUSTAINABILITY FAIR UPDATES. I THINK JUST KIND OF THE POSTPONING IT.JUST PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND IT AND BE VENDORS.
SO WE'RE STILL TALKING TO PEOPLE, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S POSTPONED.
WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF REACHING OUT TO THEM. YES. HAVEN'T HEARD BACK FROM A FEW, BUT.
YEAH. OKAY, COOL. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S SEE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE FROM THE BOARD.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH TO DISCUSS ON THAT. BUDGET UPDATE.
NATIVE GARDENS. I HAVE JULIET HERE THAT WILL SPEAK ON THE BUDGET AND THE NATIVE GARDEN.
AWESOME. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M JULIET MOSCONI, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. AND JUST A SIDE NOTE, I'M.
I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT I GOT TO SIT THROUGH THE PRESENTATION FOR BUILDING.
I GOT A LITTLE SNEAK PEEK BEFOREHAND, AND I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLIMENT OUR PROJECT MANAGEMENT TEAM LED BY GREG MINOR, OUR PARKS AND FACILITIES DIRECTOR. GREAT JOB ON THE PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT IS IS REALLY EXCITING FOR ME. I WE STARTED WORKING ON IT IN 2018 TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A FRAME OF REFERENCE, AND I WAS IN PROCUREMENT AT THAT TIME, SO I GOT TO DO THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATION WHEN WE HIRED MR. POTTS AND CEILING ARCHITECTS. AND THAT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME AGO.
W AND J CONSTRUCTION IS OUR CONTRACTOR AND THEY'RE DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.
AND WE ARE WE ARE THRILLED TO DELIVER THIS ADDED SERVICE FOR THE CITY.
SO IT IS DESIGNED TO BE A EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW OUR OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS ARE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY THIS LARGE, IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN SOME RESPECT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SHORT OF SLEEPING IN SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MANY, MANY DECADES OLD THAT ALREADY HAVE ROOF LEAKS WHEN IT RAINS, AS GREG'S TEAM WELL KNOWS, THIS IS A HUGE UPGRADE FOR US.
AND I LIKE THE COMMENT ABOUT FITTING IN WITH THE ESTHETIC ON THE CAMPUS.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THIS BUILDING WAS ADDED TO THE PREVIOUS CITY HALL AND POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WERE THE ONLY TWO BUILDINGS ON CAMPUS. BUILDING A IN THE FRONT WAS ADDED AND SO SILLING AND MR. POTTS DID A WONDERFUL JOB BRINGING IN THE ESTHETICS TO REALLY TIE THIS NEW MODERN BUILDING INTO OUR EXISTING CAMPUS THAT'S BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE EARLY 90S IS THE LAST ESTIMATE THAT I HEARD.
AND I WANT TO SAY MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY.
NATIVE GARDEN. SO THIS IS A COMPLEX PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULDN'T BE.
AND I REALLY WANT TO APPLAUD THE BOARD FOR TAKING THIS ON AND CHAMPIONING IT.
THE COMPLEXITY OF BUILDING A 39,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON CAMPUS IN THE LAST REMAINING AVAILABLE SPACE HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM GREATLY. AND THE MOST RECENT CONFLICT WITH THE GARDEN THAT HAPPENED IS THE SOLARIZATION THAT WAS LAID DOWN FOR THE GARDEN IS DIRECTLY IN CONFLICT WHERE WE HAVE FIBER NEEDS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS. WITHOUT REVEALING TOO MUCH OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT NEED TO BE DUG UP AND MOVED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING.
RIGHT NOW, OUR BUILDING CONSTRUCTION END DATE IS, I BELIEVE, LATE OCTOBER 2025.
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WE HAVE HAD ONLY ONE DELAY. WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ANY ADDITIONAL TIME THUS FAR, BUT I'M ANTICIPATING AN EXTENSION BASED ON THE FRONT PARKING LOT.ACTUALLY, SPEAKING OF STORMWATER, THERE'S AN EXISTING STORMWATER PIPE IN THE FRONT PARKING LOT THAT'S GOING TO ADD 30 SPACES TO OUR PARKING COMPLEX, JUST IN THAT PARKING ADDITION ALONE. THERE'S AN EXISTING STORMWATER PIPE THAT WE WERE LEAVING IN PLACE.
AND THEN WE'RE BRINGING ACROSS A NEW SANITARY SEWER LINE.
AND WHERE THE EXISTING STORMWATER PIPE IS, IS SIX INCHES DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT SHOWED ON SURVEYS.
AND AS BUILTS, WHICH PUTS IT TOO CLOSE TO THE SANITARY SEWER LINE.
SO RATHER THAN. REDESIGN OUR WONDERFUL LOW IMPACT ON SITE INFILTRATION SYSTEM, WE ARE HAVING TO.
MODIFY WHERE THE SANITARY SEWER LINE COMES IN, WHICH INVOLVES PUTTING IN A STRUCTURE.
AND SO THAT'S GOING TO PROBABLY ADD ABOUT A 60 DAY DELAY WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE.
I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO REVISIT THE GARDEN AT THAT TIME.
ONCE WE TRULY KNOW WHERE EVERYTHING'S GONE, EVERYTHING'S DONE.
THE IT INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGES ARE SIGNIFICANT.
IT IS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, CRITICAL TO KEEP OUR OPERATIONS GOING.
EVEN WHEN WE'RE DOING THINGS LIKE MOVING SERVERS. WE CAN'T BE DOWN.
SO THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT. THEY'VE BEEN OUR IT DEPARTMENTS. WONDERFUL. THEY'VE BEEN MEETING ON THAT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS REGULARLY TO TRY TO PLAN FOR THAT MASSIVE CHANGE. THAT'S A LONG WINDED EXPLANATION TO SAY THAT I.
I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO PAUSE THE GARDEN PROJECT.
THE COMPLICATIONS WITH THAT SITE AS WELL. BUT I'M WILLING TO TALK THROUGH OTHER OPTIONS OFF SITE.
BUT IF IT IF THE INTENT OF THE BOARD IS TO PROPOSE AN OPTION ON SITE, I DO THINK WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TO COMPLETE, WHICH WILL ALSO BE GOOD TIMING BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A PERIOD OF GREAT TRANSITION.
SO WE WILL HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER ON BOARD BY THEN.
WE WILL ALSO HAVE A NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR IN PLACE BY THEN, BOTH CRITICAL POSITIONS.
I'M GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OR ANYTHING I CAN DO TO ASSIST.
THANK YOU. JULIA. YOU HAVE GOT A TOUGH JOB JUGGLING ALL OF THAT.
WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE? AND I APPRECIATE YOUR UPDATE.
THAT'S BETTER THAN THE LAST VERSION I HEARD. SO.
WHICH. SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THERE WOULD BE FUNDING, BECAUSE AT ONE POINT, PALM BAY HAD COMMITTED ABOUT $2,000 WORTH OF FUNDING PLUS THE LAND, WHICH IS VERY VALUABLE AS WELL TOWARD THIS PROJECT.
AND WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, IS 2500 FROM FPL, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS ABOUT JUST LET US KNOW THEY KNOW ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION. THEY KNOW ALL THAT.
AND THEN CONRADINA EDINA HAS ALSO COMMITTED $2,000 TOWARD THE PROJECT.
BECAUSE WE'VE PAUSED IT. BASED ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND EVERYTHING.
MY GUESS IS THAT PRICE TAG MIGHT INCREASE A BIT BECAUSE OF THE TIME, SO WE'D HAVE TO GET ANOTHER ESTIMATE WHEN IT GETS CLOSER FROM THE NATIVE BUTTERFLY FLOWERS. FOLKS THAT DID THE FIRST ESTIMATE.
BUT I PERSONALLY STILL WOULD LOVE THAT SITE BECAUSE IT'S SO VISIBLE.
AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE WROTE IN THE GRANT THAT COMES BETWEEN THE POLICE STATION AND THE CITY HALL, AND NOW WITH BUILDING E, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT AND LEARN FROM IT IS JUST SO MUCH GREATER THAN A NEMO CIRCLE OR ANY PLACE ELSE THAT I COULD EVEN THINK OF IN THE IN THE.
BECAUSE IT'S HERE. IT'S ON THE CITY HALL PROPERTY.
SO I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH MICHELLE MORRELL FROM FPL.
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GOING. SHE SAID, OH, SO SHOULD I CANCEL THIS GRANT FOR THE GARDEN? AND.NO, NO, PLEASE DON'T. THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT CONNECTED.
I EVEN SENT HER THE AERIAL THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAD DONE FOR YOU GUYS.
AND I DREW A LITTLE, LIKE RED CIRCLE, WHERE BUILDING E WAS TO SHOW HER.
IT'S ACTUALLY VERY FAR AWAY. HERE'S WHAT I CAN TELL YOU REGARDING FUNDING.
SO THE CITY DID FULL TRANSPARENCY EXPEND THE FULL $2,000 FOR THE SOLARIZATION ALREADY? THE COMPANY CAME OUT AND DID THE WORK AND LAID DOWN THE SOLARIZATION, AND THEN WE HAD TO REMOVE IT.
SO THERE HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT OF AN INVESTMENT BY THE CITY.
THE PURCHASE ORDER THAT I REQUESTED BE CANCELED WAS WAS FOR THE MATERIALS THEMSELVES, AROUND $6,000.
TO THE NATIVE BUTTERFLY GROUP THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING.
AND WHERE WE ARE SITTING RIGHT NOW, I WOULD FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE MAKING A COMMITMENT TO YOU.
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A AS A DEPUTY CITY MANAGER THAT OVERSEES INTERNAL SERVICES, INCLUDING PARKS AND FACILITIES AND IT I WOULD REALLY RATHER WAIT UNTIL THE BUILDING IS CONSTRUCTED.
AND THAT'S THAT'S MY PITCH FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE IN REGARDS TO THE CITY CONTRIBUTING FUNDING.
I WOULD RATHER LEAVE IT TO THOSE TWO FUTURE LEADERS TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
WORK WITH THE BOARD, COME BEFORE YOU ALL GET TO KNOW YOU GUYS AND AND HEAR ABOUT YOUR VISION MORE.
SO I CAN'T COMMIT TO FUNDING AT THIS TIME. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT BUT YOU'VE GIVEN SOME HOPEFULNESS THAT THERE COULD BE FUNDING, SO THAT'S AWESOME.
GOOD. YEP. WHAT ELSE CAN I ANSWER FOR YOU ALL ABOUT THE GARDEN OR ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT CITY OPERATIONS WHILE I'M HERE? I HAD A QUESTION. SO ABOUT THE BUILDING E LANDSCAPING.
I MEAN, I DIDN'T EXPECT US TO BE CONSULTED ABOUT IT OR ANYTHING.
IS. AND THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT IT'S ALREADY BAKED IN IN TERMS OF A PLAN.
OBVIOUSLY, NOBODY'S BOUGHT THE PLANTS YET BECAUSE IT'S NOT READY OUT THERE.
THE LAND ISN'T READY. SO I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AND GET A FEW MORE NATIVES INSERTED THERE. I CAN CERTAINLY DISCUSS THAT WITH WITH TOM AS WE MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROJECT.
I WANTED TO GIVE YOU ONE REALLY NICE UPDATE ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING.
IN FACT, IT REQUIRED IRRIGATION. THERE IS NO IRRIGATION ON THE SITE.
AND I'LL SAY QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE STILL THE PLAN FOR IRRIGATION WAS TO USE CITY WATER.
SO WE CAN'T THINK OF A LESS SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION THAN THAT.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IRRIGATED SITE. AND SO THAT REQUIRED, OF COURSE, MODIFYING THE LANDSCAPING TO BE DROUGHT TOLERANT. SO WE DID MAKE THAT ONE SUSTAINABLE MOVE ALREADY.
SO YOU KNOW, WIN FOR YOU GUYS RIGHT? AND WIN FOR OUR RESIDENTS, OF COURSE.
BUT LET ME LET ME FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FULL PLANT LIST MYSELF.
PLANTS ARE. YEAH. THEY'RE NOT MY THING. I'M SORRY, MISS HIGGINS.
WHAT CAN WE DO? THEY'RE EASY MAINTENANCE FOR OUR TEAMS. THANK YOU. OKAY. AND I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH SOMEBODY.
WHOEVER THAT PERSON IS, WHEN YOU KNOW, I'M NOT EXPECTING IT TO BE YOU.
BUT THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST GETTING THE IRRIGATION OUT OF THERE AND GETTING US TO FLORIDA.
FRIENDLY. THAT'S. THOSE ARE HUGE STEPS. SO YES, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS WANT MORE.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE THE THE EXFILTRATION SYSTEM.
YES. THAT IS THAT WAS REALLY THAT IS MY VIEW FROM MY OFFICE.
WE WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, AND THE CITY SHUT DOWN ITS OWN SITE AS THEY SHOULD.
SO HE'S CALLING ME AND SAYING, HEY JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M HAVING TO SHUT DOWN YOUR SITE.
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PARKING, NOT HAVING TO CREATE MORE PONDS. SO I'M GLAD WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT HERE ON CAMPUS.I HAD A REQUEST, I THINK, FROM STAFF TO TALK ABOUT THE NAGDCA.
CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR ME WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO SPEAK ABOUT? SUSTAINABILITY, FAIR AND BUDGETING.
OKAY. YEAH. SO WE ARE HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DO SPECIAL EVENTS ALL YEAR ROUND, WE HAVE A WONDERFUL RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT PUTS ON SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO IN TERMS OF CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY, WE CAN PROVIDE RESOURCES, ASSUMING IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THE SAME WEEKEND AS OUR EASTER EXTRAVAGANZA OR FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA OR ANY OF OUR OTHER EVENTS TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SUSTAINABILITY FAIR IN THAT WAY, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY.
SO WE'RE GLAD TO STILL PARTNER AND DO THAT AND MAKE IT A AN EVENT WITH THE CITY AND PROVIDE THAT MANPOWER AND THOSE MATERIALS IN TERMS OF TENTS, CHAIRS SET UP AND THAT KIND OF THING.
IT WAS HERE ON CAMPUS. I CAME HERE FOR THAT ONE AS WELL.
WE WE HAVE PLACES THAT WE CAN DO IT AT TOO. AND THAT'S THE OTHER OPTION FOR YOU.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION IS, IT'S GOING TO BE IN-KIND SERVICES AND OF COURSE, WAIVER OF FEES FOR ANY OF THE RENTALS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANTED ME TO ADDRESS? NO. THAT'S IT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I THINK PART OF THE QUESTION WAS WE HAD HEARD THAT THE BUDGET FOR THE FAIR WAS REMOVED AND ARE BOUNCING AROUND BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS HERE THAT WE REPORT TO. AND THAT WE NEED TO SUBMIT A REQUEST TO GET INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS SEEM TO BE LATE ON THIS EVERY YEAR.
WE JUST SEEM TO BARELY MISS IT. SO ARE YOUR THOUGHTS AGAIN TO WAIT FOR THE NEW CITY MANAGER AND TO SEE WHAT THE APPETITE IS FOR THAT? OR WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST FOR US TO SUBMIT? SO I'M GOING TO BE HONEST WITH, YOU KNOW, BOARDS HAVE A BUDGET, RIGHT? NONE OF OUR ADVISORY BOARDS HAVE A BUDGET. THIS IS A VOLUNTARY POSITION.
AND WHAT YOU HAVE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STAFF.
I MEAN, I SEE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC WORKS STAFF HERE THIS EVENING.
AT THIS TIME, THE CURRENT INTERIM CITY MANAGER, SCOTT MORGAN, AND I HAVE DISCUSSED IT, AND WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET IN PLACE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW TOWARDS A SUSTAINABILITY FAIR OR ANY TYPE OF EVENT LIKE THAT.
IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT PUBLIC WORKS CAN REQUEST IN THEIR BUDGET AS THE LEAD DEPARTMENT IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE THAT WITH OTHER CITY OPERATIONAL NEEDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY WOULD ANYTHING ELSE.
SO AND THEN THOSE ALL THOSE NEEDS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY ARE CAPTURED IN ONE OVERALL DOCUMENT.
I'M HONESTLY NOT 100% SURE WHAT THE DEADLINES ARE FOR THAT OR IF WE'VE MISSED IT.
BUT WE CAN WE CAN TALK TO FINANCE ABOUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'D LIKE TO ADD.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WHEN WE GET A NEW CITY MANAGER AND PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
RIGHT. SO, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FOR THIS YEAR, THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH RUNS THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, THERE IS NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE FAIR.
AGAIN, GLAD TO CONTRIBUTE IN-KIND RESOURCES AND FEE WAIVERS.
IT'S KIND OF HARD. OH, YEAH. I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
I THOUGHT THAT NO BOARDS HAVE A BUDGET, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE COULD BE THE FIRST AND CERTAINLY ONE OF THE IDEAS. WE'RE VERY STRONG ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY EDUCATION.
WE'RE REWRITING THE PLAN, AND THERE'S A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON THAT.
ONE OF OUR IDEAS THAT WILL TURN INTO AN ACTION ITEM IS TO CONTACT ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS OF THE OF THE CITY AND TO REQUEST FROM THEM, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE?
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WE WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IT THROUGH OUR ACTION PLAN, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WANT TO ALSO PARTICIPATE WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN TERMS OF BEING PRESENT AT EVENTS, HAVING MATERIALS AND REALLY HAVE A SEAMLESS FIT FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD BECAUSE THEY TOUCH US AND WE TOUCH EVERY FUNCTION OF THE CITY AS WELL. SO GOING BACK TO THE IDEA OF A BUDGET, ONE OF THE IDEAS WE THOUGHT OF IS IF IF WE CAN CREATE OUR BOARD, THIS GETS TO THE EFFECTIVENESS AND TO THE PURPOSE OF OUR BOARD, IF WE CAN CREATE THAT.AND I THINK WE'RE ALREADY IN THAT DIRECTION. HOW COULD WE UTILIZE THE PR BUDGETS OR SOME BUDGETS IN THE DEPARTMENTS TO ASSIST US, PARTICULARLY WITH SIGNAGE LIKE WE WANT TO DO WITH BUILDING E AND ANYTHING ELSE.
AND I'M TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM. I, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD PERMANENT, BUT I WANT TO USE THE WORD CELEBRATORY FROM REBECCA HERE. CELEBRATORY SIGNAGE THAT WILL HAVE ENDURANCE AND FUTURE.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD TELL THE CITY WE NEED SO MUCH FOR THAT TYPE OF PURPOSE, BUT WOULD YOU GIVE THAT SOME THOUGHT AND SEE IF WE COULD CREATIVELY FIGURE OUT HOW TO INCORPORATE? SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THAT DEPARTMENT HEAD LETTER, BECAUSE I DID WANT TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT. SO I REALLY THINK THAT.
LISTENING TO COUNCIL. SO MY MY ROLE THIS EVENING IS TO REPRESENT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND DIRECTION FROM OUR INTERIM CITY MANAGER, WHO WE KNOW IS GOING TO CHANGE THIS SUMMER. INEVITABLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SCOTT HAS, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM HIM, AND ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS HE'S TAUGHT ME IS TRULY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LEGISLATIVE ACTION AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION. AND LEGISLATIVE ACTIONS ARE ACTIONS OF THE COUNCIL, AND THEY MAKE THOSE DIRECTIONS.
AND ADMINISTRATIVE ACTIONS ARE REALLY ACTIONS THAT FALL WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE CITY MANAGER.
SO AS FAR AS DEVELOPING SIGNAGE, PERMANENT SIGNAGE I THINK THAT WOULD BE CERTAINLY A AT THE IT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD, BUT I THINK IT WOULD REALLY FALL INTO THE REALM OF ADMINISTRATIVE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY MANAGER TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE THAT? OF COURSE, I JUST ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WHO APPROVES EVERY SIGN AND EVERY VERBIAGE AND EVERY COLOR THAT WE PUT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE OUR MESSAGING IS CONSISTENT.
MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD'S PURVIEW IS TO REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL WITH ACTIONS THAT WOULD BE LEGISLATIVE, SO THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR PURVIEW OF THINGS TO CONTROL.
SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, ORDINANCES RELATED TO LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN, WHICH I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON UPDATING REGARDING THE LETTER, AND I HOPE THAT'S CLEAR. REGARDING THE LETTER TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, I DID GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT WASN'T RUN THROUGH OUR OFFICE BY THE TIME THE AGENDA NEEDED TO BE PUBLISHED.
WHICH IS WHY IT'S IT'S NOT ON HERE THIS EVENING.
MEAN, I THINK THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE ENCOMPASSED A LOT OF THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES, EVEN IN THE LETTER IN OF WHAT THE CITY IS ALREADY DOING AND WHAT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO HAVE ONE OF YOUR LIAISONS HERE FROM PUBLIC WORKS REACH OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENTS. SO, YOU KNOW, PROCUREMENT DOESN'T HAVE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES, ALTHOUGH I SAY THAT THEY'RE MOVING TO AN ERP SYSTEM AND THEY'RE GOING PAPERLESS.
AND THAT'S THE FIRST PHASE GOES LIVE THIS SUMMER, AND THE SECOND PHASE GOES LIVE IN THE SPRING, THE FINAL PHASE. SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING. AND I'M GLAD TO WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS STAFF ON DEVELOPING THAT LIST FOR YOU ALL, RATHER THAN THE SAB GIVING A DIRECTIVE TO DEPARTMENT HEADS TO PLEASE PRODUCE THIS LIST, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE WELL RECEIVED IF WE WORK ON IT
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INTERNALLY AS STAFF AND PROVIDE YOU THAT DATA.AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PR OUTREACH BUDGET I ACTUALLY THINK IN TERMS OF LIKE IF YOU ALL WANTED TO HAVE A TABLE, YOU KNOW, AT CITY, SOME OF OUR CITY EVENTS YOU'VE GOT THE BEST PERSON IN THE ROOM RIGHT HERE.
DEREK'S IN CHARGE OF ALL THE OUTREACH FOR PUBLIC WORKS.
AND SO HE IS ALWAYS WELL AWARE OF EVENTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON AND OPPORTUNITIES TO DISPLAY AND PRESENT INFORMATION, GIVE OUT EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS. AND I'M SURE WE CAN ALWAYS MAKE ROOM FOR THE SAB TO HAVE ANY MATERIALS OR INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO SHARE AT ANY OF OUR EVENTS.
SO THAT CAN BE ANOTHER OUTREACH METHOD FOR SURE.
AWESOME. SO. SO ANOTHER THING I KNOW SUSAN WAS PROBABLY THINKING ABOUT IS GETTING SOME MATERIALS PRINTED THAT WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, LIKE SUSTAINABLE PALM BAY. AND HERE'S ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS SUSTAINABLE PALM BAY IS DOING TO HAND OUT AT EVENTS THAT WE MIGHT TABLE AT.
WOULD THAT BE INCLUDED UNDER DEREK'S PURVIEW OR.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO REQUEST MONEY FOR THAT. IT WOULD WE COULD MAKE SOME OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
TALKING ABOUT PERMANENT SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. BUT IF YOU IF YOU WANT SOME FLIERS, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO MAKE UP SOME FLIERS AND YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE THEM AS PART OF THE HANDOUTS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.
OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU. JULIA. ANOTHER QUESTION.
I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
AND MR. SCOTT MORGAN AS WELL. SO WE HAD A PRESENTER TONIGHT, A CITIZEN ON WHO? THIS IS SOMETHING NEW TO, TO HAVE A CITIZEN COME FORTH WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE CITY.
BUT IN THE BEGINNING, IT WILL TAKE SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
CAN YOU OFFER. AND AGAIN, THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.
SO CAN YOU IF WE HEAR THIS PRESENTATION AND, AND BASED ON OUR RECOMMENDATION TO GO FURTHER WITH IT, WHAT TYPE OF BUDGET DO WE NEED TO BE THINKING OF TO HAVE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL? I GUESS THAT WOULD BE A LEGISLATIVE ACTION AT THAT POINT.
SO HERE'S WHERE I'M GOING TO TO JUST RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.
SO TO ME THAT'S REALLY GOING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION.
AND AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. SO WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT BIOCHAR.
I'M VERY EXCITED THAT SHE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AS A CITIZEN TO ENGAGE WITH YOU ALL.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, AND TO BRING FORWARD THE VENDOR.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE BENEFICIAL POTENTIALLY TO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY. I LIKE TO TALK IN ANALOGIES.
SHORELINE RESTORATION. SO TYPICAL IS ROCK REVETMENT.
SO ROCK REVETMENT THAT'S THE LARGE BOULDERS YOU SEE.
A GREAT EXAMPLE IS THE WONDERFUL JOB THAT WAS JUST DONE AT STERN'S AND AT CASTAWAY PARK.
I KNOW YOU CAN SEE IT FROM. I SEE IT EVERY DAY.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL JOB THERE. BUT THERE'S ANOTHER PRODUCT OUT THERE CALLED REEF ARCHES.
SO YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD ABOUT. THEY WERE HERE.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE REEF ARCHES ON CITY PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
AND RIGHT NOW THE DATA IS SAYING NO. AND THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEED TO BE HIGH ENOUGH FOR 100 YEAR FLOOD IN ORDER TO GET PERMITTING APPROVAL. WELL, THEY'RE NOT TALL ENOUGH IN AND OF THEMSELVES FOR 100 YEAR FLOOD AT THE DEPTH THAT THEY ARE OUT INTO THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.
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IN THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON, WILL A BARGE EVEN BE ABLE TO HOLD THAT MUCH WEIGHT WITHOUT SINKING? HOW ABOUT A CRANE? SO INSTEAD, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS CAN WE PURSUE A GRANT FROM FIND, FOR EXAMPLE, FLORIDA INLAND NAVIGATION DISTRICT TO TRY AN EXPERIMENTAL PATCH OF THEM AT ANOTHER LOCATION.I SAY ALL THAT TO SAY IS THAT'S KIND OF WHAT BIOCHAR SOUNDS LIKE TO ME.
IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S PERHAPS RELATIVELY NEW AND CERTAINLY NEW TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE VENDOR ABOUT POSSIBLE APPLICATIONS.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE ALL THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM WHO COULD SAY YES, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD USE IN OUR BAFFLE BOXES OR, YOU KNOW, OR NOT. RIGHT. AND WE'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE EXPERT OPINION OF OUR STAFF AND THEIR LEADER, WHO IS THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, WOULD ULTIMATELY NEED TO DETERMINE IF, YES, THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD RECOMMEND TO PUT IN THE BUDGET OR NOT.
SO TO ME THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION. NOW, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT TO REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO UTILIZE IT, WELL, THEN THAT CAN BE A RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU ALL MAKE FOR AN ORDINANCE CHANGE OR SOMETHING, PERHAPS IN YOUR SUSTAINABLE ACTION PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS THE MAIN PIECE THAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR YOU ALL TO DELIVER.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. SO JUST TO FOLLOW THAT, WOULD YOU PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR TO COME TO THE BIOCHAR PRESENTATION? COULD THAT BE. SO I WILL I WILL SEE IF I AM AVAILABLE.
AND I WILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT I REALLY TRUST THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND YOU HAVE YOUR OPERATIONS MANAGER.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE FAR, FAR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN ME ABOUT THE APPLICATIONS POTENTIAL.
THINKING OF THE FINANCIAL, THE WORKING AT. I FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE TOO LATE IN THE IN THE YEAR TO ASK FOR THAT, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE ONLY HEARING A VENDOR PRESENTATION ON APRIL 30TH, WE ARE ALREADY PAST THE DEADLINE THEN FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN APPLICATION SUBMITTALS TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.
AND TO ME, HEARING A VENDOR PRESENTATION IS JUST ONE STEP IN A GREAT DEAL OF DUE DILIGENCE THAT I WOULD EXPECT OUR STAFF TO TAKE BEFORE PROPOSING A BUDGET FOR A NEW TYPE OF TREATMENT.
WHEN DOES YOU MENTIONED A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS WAS DONE? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE CITY? WE DID IT. WE DID IT THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING FIRM.
WE BASICALLY SAID, HEY, IF I HAD TO PUT ROCKS HERE, HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE? OKAY, WELL, IF I HAVE TO PUT REEF ARCHES HERE, HOW MUCH IT WOULD IT BE? AND THE ENGINEERING FIRM CAME BACK AND SAID, WELL, FIRST YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO STACK THEM THREE HIGH.
AND OF COURSE, WE'D WANT TO HAVE VETTED BY PROFESSIONALS BECAUSE THAT IS VENDORS ARE WONDERFUL.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A PROCUREMENT BACKGROUND. AND SO I'M WELL FAMILIAR WITH THE PITCHES OF VENDORS, AND THE VENDORS HAVE GREAT IDEAS, BUT WE NEED TO VET THEM, AND WE NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYERS.
THAT'S THAT'S OUR DIRECTIVE AND OUR JOB. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
IT DOES. YOU'VE OPENED A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES.
GREAT. I APPRECIATE THAT. I FEEL LIKE I'VE TAKEN A LOT OF YOUR TIME.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME FROM THE BOARD? WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE FINAL ITEM IS UPCOMING MEETINGS, EVENTS OF INTEREST.
SO ANY INFORMATIONAL STUFF FROM STAFF AND OVER THE BOARD? I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT A MEETING.
SO APRIL 30TH, THE THE BIOCHAR. SHARING. THAT'S NOT OUR REGULAR MEETING.
OUR REGULAR MEETING IS THE WEDNESDAY BEFORE THAT.
SO HOW ARE WE HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING OR WHAT ARE WE DOING? DID WE SWITCH OUR NORMAL MEETING ON THE 23RD TO THE 30TH? I DON'T THINK WE MOVED IT. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T GET ANY INFORMATION REGARDING THE BIOCHAR.
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I GUESS WEBINAR OR PRESENTATION THAT WAS GOING TO BE HAPPENING.I WAS TOLD I WAS GOING TO BE BY JESSE. THIS IS JESSE.
AND THAT IT WAS DONE. HAVE YOU GIVEN THE APRIL 30TH DATE TO THE VENDOR? YEAH, THEY TALKED TO THEM. OH, SHE GOT YOUR SCHEDULE.
USUALLY WE MEET THE LAST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.
THAT MONTH HAS FIVE. YES. SO TECHNICALLY WE MEET THE FOURTH.
SO IT IS. YEAH, PROBABLY. SO MAYBE WEDNESDAY. IS THE FIRST ONE. YEAH. NO, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO? I THINK.
DO YOU WANT TO SWITCH YOUR REGULAR MEETING TO THE 30TH.
WOULD THE VENDOR BE ABLE TO DO THE 23RD THAT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED? I DON'T I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD A MEETING.
IF ANYTHING, WE'D MOVE THE MEETING TO THE 30TH.
BUT DO YOU THINK THE VENDOR WOULD IF YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, YOU COULD KEEP THE REGULAR MEETING ON THE 23RD, AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING ON THE 30TH.
COULD WE COMBINE THE BIOCHAR PRESENTATION, MAYBE WITH WORKING ON THE ACTION PLAN, SINCE WE'RE SETTING EXTRA DATES FOR THAT? I WOULD PREFER NOT TO DO AN EXTRA ONE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
THREE. MY CALENDAR IS VERY, VERY LARGE. SO THAT'S WHERE I WOULD PREFER NOT TO ADD AN EXTRA MEETING.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ALREADY ADDING A SPECIAL MEETINGS FOR THE ACTION PLAN.
SO I WOULD SAY WE COULD EITHER MOVE IT. IT WOULD JUST BE A VERY BUSY WEEK.
BUT I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO ADD ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY ADDING ONES FOR THE.
SO YOU COULD SWITCH YOU COULD MAKE THE 30TH YOUR REGULAR MEETING TIME.
I COULD. OKAY. BUT I JUST HAVE TO BALANCE MY TIME FOR OTHER THINGS, TOO.
I KNOW, I CAN SEE WELL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT THIS.
I KNOW MISS SEP HAS TALKED TO IS VERY CONVINCED, HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH AND HAS TALKED TO MEMBERS ALREADY OF THE PUBLIC WORKS STAFF AND SEES A REAL FIT FOR OUR CITY.
WOULD WE RUN INTO CONFLICT IF WE SWITCH OUR MEETING TO DISCUSSING? YEAH, I'M AVAILABLE ON THE 30TH. IF WE MOVED IT.
WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE OR CHANGE, YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
OH, IS IT THAT SIMPLE? WELL, WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION? IS THE. IS THE CHAMBER OPEN? IS THE THE CHAMBER AVAILABLE? YEAH. OF COURSE. I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE IF IT'S OPEN.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU KEEP YOUR MEETING AS SCHEDULED BECAUSE IT IS PRE-SCHEDULED WITH WITH SWAGIT AND ALLOW STAFF TO REACH OUT TO THE VENDOR. I THINK THERE WAS JUST SOME CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT THE DATE WAS.
SO HE WAS INFORMED THAT THE DATE, IT LOOKS LIKE FROM CORRESPONDENCE THAT THE MEETING WAS APRIL 30TH, SO IT'D BE PROBABLY BETTER TO SEE IF PERHAPS HE'S AVAILABLE ON THE 23RD WHEN YOUR MEETING IS ACTUALLY SCHEDULED.
RATHER THAN MOVING YOUR MEETING BECAUSE OF THE LOGISTICS AND MAKING SURE THAT COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS AVAILABLE AND AND THINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER FOR YOU THIS EVENING. FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF CHAMBERS IS AVAILABLE ON THE 30TH.
I AGREE. JUST A SUGGESTION. SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT AND SEE ABOUT THE THE VENDOR.
CAN YOU MAKE IT ON THE 24TH? I MEAN ON THE 23RD.
WHAT'S THAT? I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THE SCHEDULE.
I'M ASKING IF YOU PERSONALLY YOUR SCHEDULE. YOU'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
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WELL, SO I DON'T THINK WE DON'T NEED A MOTION THEN.CORRECT. IF WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE 23RD.
YES. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. THE OTHER MEETING I WANTED TO BRING UP WON'T BE AS CONTROVERSIAL.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE A REMINDER THAT THE CONRADINA MEETING ON MAY 12TH IS WHERE LISA FRAZIER WILL BE SPEAKING ON LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE'VE INVITED ALL THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS. I'M NOT EXPECTING THEM TO ALL SHOW UP, BUT ALSO A COUPLE LOCAL BOARDS THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE TRYING TO LEARN ABOUT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT FOR THEIR CAPITAL PROJECTS COMING UP.
SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THE SAME, BECAUSE WE HAVE UNLIMITED SPACE PRETTY MUCH AT THE FIRST CHURCH OF THE NAZARENE ON BABCOCK, WHICH IS WHERE CONRADINA MEETS MONTHLY.
06:00. MAY 12TH. SECOND. SECOND MONDAY OF THE MONTH.
IS THAT FOR ME? SO FOLLOWING THAT, I WANT TO SAY, ALSO, LISA FRAZIER IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND LID, WHICH SHE CALLS IT P AND Z 101 ON APRIL THE 2ND, WHICH IS THE NEXT P AND Z. REGULAR BOARD MEETING.
I'LL BE ATTENDING. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL THE REST OF MY FELLOW MEMBERS TO ALSO SIT IN.
WE HAD LISA FRAZIER HERE. SHE DOES AN EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.
GOVERNOR DESANTIS JUST HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ANNOUNCING THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMING TO BREVARD COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY FOR WATERWAYS AND CONSERVATION TYPES OF EFFORTS.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE AT THE FOREFRONT OF ALL THESE THINGS IN A LOT OF WAYS BY ATTENDING THESE OPPORTUNITIES. THE SPEAK UP BREVARD, WHICH IS ANOTHER INITIATIVE THROUGH THE COUNTY.
THERE WERE 77 OF SUBMISSIONS OF MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE METHODOLOGY OR ACTIONS THAT THE COUNTY COULD TAKE.
AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CENTER ON LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION AND, AND MANY THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH ON THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. SO I'M HAPPY THAT OUR NEED IS GREAT.
AND ALSO, I THINK WE'RE BECOMING MORE VISIBLE AS WELL AS PARTICIPATING MORE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AWESOME. YES. ANYTHING. I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE GET FOR FREE FROM OUR ECOSYSTEMS, THE CLEAN AIR, THE WATER, THE TREES FILTERING.
I DON'T THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE ENOUGH AWARE OF THOSE THINGS.
THE TREES FILTER POLLUTANTS AND MANAGE STORMWATER.
SO I THINK THAT'S YEAH. THAT'S IT. COOL. AWESOME.
SO A LOT OF GOOD RECEPTION IN TALLAHASSEE ON THAT.
SO A HANDFUL OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS UP THERE.
SO PALM BAY IS GETTING TO WORK. SO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON THIS YEAR SO FAR.
AND THEN, IS THERE ANYTHING FROM THE CITY? YES, MR. CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO PUT ON THE RECORD. AND SINCE WE WERE DISCUSSING THE BIOCHAR OBVIOUSLY, PUBLIC WORKS IS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR VENDORS AND OTHER WAYS TO DO THINGS.
THERE'S SO THERE'S A LOT TO IT. BUT I DID WANT TO PUT IT OUT THERE SINCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT PUBLIC WORKS DOES HAVE BIOCHAR PRODUCTS AND WE USE THEM IN OUR BAFFLE BOXES CURRENTLY.
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SO WE ARE WE ARE AWARE OF IT AND WE'RE GOING.IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO TALK TO A VENDOR, SEE WHAT OTHER EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE.
BUT WE ARE USING BIOCHAR PRODUCTS. AWESOME. THANK YOU.
AND WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING? I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
AND COUNCILMAN. CORRECTION. IT WAS ERIC AND DEREK.
OH, WHAT DID I SAY? OH, I'M SORRY IF I MISSED.
YOU THREW ME IN THE MIX. OH, ERIC. ERIC BLUNT.
AND DENNIS BLUNT. NO. DEREK. DEREK. DEREK. BLUNT.
OKAY. YES. ERIC. BLUNT AND MYSELF. DEREK. BLUNT.
OKAY. PLEASE, EVERYBODY HELP WITH THIS. SO, REGARDLESS OF THEIR NAMES BEING VERY SIMILAR, THE PROGRAM IS PHENOMENAL. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN HAS GONE ON THE RIDE ALONG.
I WENT WITH HIM. WE COUNCILMAN. HAMMER IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT ONE.
AND WE WILL BE ASKING COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALSO VERY SOON.
SO IT'S IT'S FUN. I DON'T KNOW IF EITHER OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RIDE WITH ONE OF THE COUNCIL PEOPLE, BUT IT'S IT'S SO MUCH FUN TO SEE WHAT THE CITY IS DOING FIRST.
AND THEN SECOND, JUST TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY TALK ONE ON ONE AND IN A, IN A SETTING THAT IS RELAXED AND CAPTIVE. AWESOME. WELL, WITH NO FURTHER ADO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN THE MEETING.
OH, ONE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT. THEY CANCELED THE THE CLOSING PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO START THAT DEBATE? NO, THIS WAS PERTAINING TO OTHER BUSINESS NUMBER THREE.
OKAY. AND IT WAS SCHEDULING OF UP AND COMING MEETINGS.
AND IT WAS BROUGHT OUT EARLIER THAT SATURDAY.
POTENTIAL CITY MANAGERS ARE GOING TO ARE GOING TO BE IN CHAMBERS.
SO ME BEING THE PERSON I AM, I CAN GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HEAR MY POINT OF VIEW.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT IS AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION.
I WILL BE THERE. I HOPE YOU OTHERS WILL BE TOO.
I'VE ALREADY STARTED MY QUESTIONS AND YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE ARE CALLING THIS ADJOURNED AT 734.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.