May 29, 2025 City Council Workshop

[CALL TO ORDER:]

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OKAY. IT'S 1800 HOURS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS WORKSHOP TO ORDER.

THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HURRAH! MADAM. LOEFFLER. MAYOR. MEDINA PRESENT.

DEPUTY MAYOR. JAFFEE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. HAMER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. PRESENT. MR. MORTON. MISS SMITH HERE. THANK YOU. FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

[1. Acknowledgment of the City’s Annual Comprehensive Financial Report for Fiscal Year 2023-2024.]

AS YOU MAY KNOW, OUR AUDIT TEAM IS GOING THROUGH A MERGER.

AND WE WERE GETTING A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, APPROVALS, TACIT APPROVALS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ITEM. AND THEN SOMEONE ON THE REVIEW TEAM IN A DIFFERENT OFFICE WOULD SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE WANT SOME MORE EXPLANATION. THIS HAPPENED TO US AT THE LAST MINUTE ON AN ITEM. AND POINT OF FACT, THEY JUST CLARIFIED IT AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO.

AS OF AN HOUR AGO, BUT NOW IT'S TOO LATE TO PREPARE AND HAVE THAT PRESENTATION.

SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GO AHEAD. I THINK IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE TO TACK IT ON TO THE NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP, RATHER THAN ON THE ALREADY BURGEONING JULY AGENDA. SO WE'LL LOOK TO SEE THAT AT THE FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP IN JULY.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A DATE FOR THAT YET, SIR? YES, IT WILL BE IN HERE.

IT WILL BE IN YOUR PRESENTATION. I WON'T STEAL THEIR THUNDER.

OKAY. PERHAPS EARLY. EARLY NOTICE IS ALWAYS GOOD.

RIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. MR. MORTON.

[2. Discussion of planning and strategic goals for Fiscal Year 2025-2026.]

WE'VE GOT THE WHOLE FINANCE TEAM. LARRY'S BATTING BACK UP OVER HERE, BUT WE'VE GOT ANGELICA.

OKAY. JESSICA. SEAN AND SHANE ARE EACH GOING TO TAKE A PIECE TONIGHT.

DIVE IN. THEY'VE DONE A TON OF HARD WORK, I THINK.

IT'S VERY INFORMATIVE. I THINK THEY'VE ALSO DONE A GREAT JOB IN TRYING TO STREAMLINE IT AND PRESENT IT WHERE EVERYONE CAN DIGEST IT AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO. ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ANGELICA COLLINS, AND I'M THE ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND MY PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS OVERSIGHT OF OUR BUDGET, CAPITAL AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.

TONIGHT WE ARE DOING THINGS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.

I KNOW WE HAVE THREE NEW COUNCIL PEOPLE. WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER, BUT WE HAVE TWO SEASONED COUNCIL PEOPLE THAT I'VE PRESENTED TO FOR MANY YEARS ALREADY.

USUALLY I DO ALL OF THESE PRESENTATIONS BY MYSELF.

SELF. BUT AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH SOME RESTRUCTURING AND I'LL KIND OF GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

ONE OF MY PRIORITIES AS A LEADER IS TO ALSO TRAIN AND HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HEAVILY WORK INTO THIS ALSO PRESENTS. SO I WILL BE STEERING AWAY FROM GIVING THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

SO I'LL START THE PRESENTATION, TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT US ABOUT WHAT OUR GOAL IS FOR TONIGHT.

AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AT THE END AND CLOSE IT OUT.

BUT THIS WAY THAT YOU DO GET TO MEET AN AWESOME TEAM THAT I JUST AM VERY BLESSED TO HAVE WORKED FOR ME.

SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AGENDA. USUALLY WE DO NOT HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP.

THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON IMPLEMENTING.

JESSICA WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT THE FUTURE BUDGET PLANNING, HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY WANTING TO START IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY WITH YOU.

SO TONIGHT IS MORE OF A HIGH LEVEL. WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT STRATEGIC PLANNING.

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE WANT TO KIND OF GO WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

AS FAR AS LOOKING AT WHAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO THIS EVENING IS REALLY MORE OF LIKE A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.

I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TEAM.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN GET TO MEET EVERYBODY. THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE EVOLUTION OF BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, WHERE WE'VE BEEN WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF REORGANIZING AND WHERE WE'D LIKE TO GO IN THE FUTURE.

WE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COUNCIL PRIORITIES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO MEET ONE ON ONE WITH SOME OF YOU ALREADY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR TOP FIVE, TOP FIVE LEVEL PRIORITIES THAT YOU PERSONALLY HAD.

THEN WE WILL TALK ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FISCAL YEAR 2026 BUDGET DATA AND CAPITAL DATA.

SO WE'LL HEAVILY FOCUS ON IN 2026, SINCE THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED ALL THAT INFORMATION TO US.

SO THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF GET AN IDEA. AS WE MOVE INTO BUDGET DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT MONTH ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT,

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I PRESENT THOSE USUALLY VERY EARLY ON. I PUT THEM IN ALL INFORMATION JUST BECAUSE I DO TRY TO GET THEM ON YOUR CALENDARS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR ALREADY.

SO THAT WAY WE'RE PRETTY MUCH SET, AND I GET EVERYTHING KIND OF APPROVED THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE IN STATUTORY COMPLIANCE, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT OUT WITH OUR GOALS DISCUSSIONS.

AND IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASK ON ANY INFORMATION DURING THE PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, USUALLY AT THE END WE WANT TO KIND OF LIKE GROUP EVERYONE BACK TOGETHER AND KIND OF START WORKING ON SOME GOALS AND GIVING US SOME DIRECTION ON WHERE WE WANT TO HEAD WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH BEFORE YOUR NEXT ACTUAL BUDGET WORKSHOP, WHICH IS IN THAT FIRST SECOND WEEK OF JULY.

I DO WANT TO ALWAYS THROW THIS OUT THERE. I, I ALWAYS SAY I STARTED OFF WITH, I LOVE WHAT I DO.

THIS BY FAR IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF MY JOB IS COMING TO PRESENT.

SO ANY TIME THAT I GET TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT WE DO AS A TEAM AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT.

THEN I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT. WE ARE A 34 YEAR RECIPIENT, RECIPIENT OF THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD, WHICH IS ISSUED BY THE GENERAL FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION.

OUR MOST RECENT ONE THAT THEY'VE EVALUATED WAS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE WENT THROUGH LAST YEAR, WE PUT IT TOGETHER IN A BIG DOCUMENT, AND THAT GETS SUBMITTED TO 3 OR 4 REVIEWERS.

AND THEY HAVE ALL THESE RATINGS AND THEY KIND OF GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE ENTIRE BOOK.

AND THEY ESSENTIALLY GIVE US AN AWARD IF WE MEET THOSE MANDATORY STANDARDS.

SO WE ARE A 34 YEAR RECIPIENT OF THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, WHICH IS SOMETHING TO BE VERY PROUD OF.

HOWEVER, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WE'VE ALSO BEEN TWO TIMES SPECIAL RECOGNITION CATEGORY RECIPIENTS, WHERE THEY ESSENTIALLY TAKE CERTAIN PORTIONS OF OUR PROCESS.

AND IF THAT PROCESS RANKS AT THE HIGHEST CATEGORY AND RECEIVES OUTSTANDING MARKINGS FROM ALL REVIEWERS, THEN WE GET THAT SPECIAL RECOGNITION. SO WE'VE DONE IT TWO YEARS IN A ROW FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND THEN FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, IT WAS FOR OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES.

SO I AM HOPING THAT CONTINUING FORWARD, WE CONTINUE TO DO THAT WHICH I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK WITH OUR CAPITAL PLANNING AND OUR BUDGET PROCESS INNOVATION THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

SO I'M GOING GO AHEAD. CAN YOU BRING UP THE PODIUM A LITTLE HIGHER AND THE MICROPHONE CLOSER? IS THAT BETTER? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. CLOSER TO YOU? THAT'S FINE. YEAH. SO WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUE THAT INTO THE FUTURE.

BUT THAT'S BEEN A BEEN A BIG PROCESS FOR US GOING AHEAD AND BEING INNOVATIVE AND CHANGING THAT PROCESS.

FOR THE CITY AND FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT LIVE WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TEAM.

SO IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN IT DID LAST YEAR.

SO LAST YEAR DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS IT WAS MYSELF AND A BUDGET ANALYST THAT WORKED FOR ME.

AND THEN THERE WAS SOME DOWNTIME THAT INDIVIDUAL DID LEAVE TO GO HAVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.

SO FOR A FEW MONTHS, IT WAS JUST ME KIND OF HANGING ON.

AND THEN WE DID SOME RESTRUCTURING. SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE A TEAM OF FOUR.

AND TRUST ME, THE THREE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR ME, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

I AM VERY LIKE I SAID, I'M VERY BLESSED. AND I THINK AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY MANAGER, YOU WILL REAP THE BENEFITS FROM THE AMAZING PEOPLE THAT THAT WORK FOR ME. BUT AGAIN, MY, MY FOCUS IS OVERSIGHT OF THE ACTUAL BUDGET DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING CAPITAL AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.

I WILL ALSO BE WORKING ON AD VALOREM TAXATION, WHICH WE SHOULD RECEIVE WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH.

WE'LL RECEIVE OUR VALUES. AND A BIG THING FOR ME IS CROSS TRAINING.

SO WITHIN ALL THOSE AREAS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OVER THE NEXT YEAR WE DO HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS AND STEP INTO THOSE ROLES, JUST IN CASE. THERE ARE SOME STATUTORY THINGS THAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO.

SOMEONE HAS TO KNOW THEM OUTSIDE OF ME. THEN WHAT WE DID OR WHAT I DID IS WE WENT AHEAD AND TOOK THAT BUDGET ANALYST POSITION AND ACTUALLY RESTRUCTURED IT INTO A BUDGET PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR. SO, JESSICA HINCHMAN YOU MAY KNOW HER I WAS ABLE TO PULL HER SOURCE, HER KINDLY FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT TOO MUCH, DID THEY? NO, NO, BUT, YOU KNOW, I TOOK CHIEF BIGELOW OUT,

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AND, YOU KNOW, HE HE COULDN'T SAY NO. BUT I BELIEVE, I MEAN, JUST SEEING WHAT SHE'S DONE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST INITIALLY RESTRUCTURED THAT THAT POSITION THAT WAS ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, SHE WOULD BE PERFECT IN DOING THIS AND JUST THE TRAJECTORY AND THE THINGS THAT SHE COULD DO FOR THE CITY.

SO JESSICA'S PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS BUDGET IMPLEMENTATION, ENGAGEMENT AND EDUCATION AND THEN ALSO CROSS TRAINING.

SO WHEN I TALK ABOUT THAT AD VALOREM PIECE THAT SHE WILL LEARN THAT.

SO THAT WAY SHE'S ABLE TO ALSO DO THAT IN CASE I AM ABSENT FOR WHATEVER REASON.

THEN SEAN SPILLERS USED TO BE JUST AN ASSET MANAGER, SO SEAN WAS ONBOARDED WITH THE CITY A FEW YEARS AGO AND HIS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY WAS JUST ASSET MANAGEMENT. AND THEN LAST YEAR, I NEEDED A LOT OF HELP ON THE CAPITAL SIDE BECAUSE IT WAS JUST ME.

AND SO I SAID, HEY, SEAN, WHY DON'T YOU HELP ME IN KIND OF WORKING AND DEVELOPING THAT CAPITAL SIDE? BECAUSE YOU WERE ACTUALLY HELPING OUR CHIEF ACCOUNTANT FOR THE ACFR.

SO THAT CAME WITH THE IDEA. AND I SAID, LET'S TURN SEAN INTO A CAPITAL AND ASSET PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR.

SO HIS PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY IS OVERSIGHT OF THE CAPITAL PROGRAM AND THE ASSET MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.

AND THEN I WAS VERY FORTUNATE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL POSITION AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE ERP TRANSITION.

AND WE ONBOARDED SHANE BYRD. SHANE IS VERY NEW TO THE CITY.

IT'S ONLY ABOUT A SECOND OR THIRD MONTH. HE CAME FROM A SMALL SUBURB OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF ATLANTA, AND HE'S PRETTY MUCH DONE ANYTHING FROM ACCOUNTING TO CAPITAL TO BUDGET TO FINANCE.

AND HE'S BRINGING AN ABSOLUTE WEALTH OF ANALYTICS.

SO WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING IN THE NEXT YEAR IS A LOT OF ANALYTICAL REDESIGN, WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO DO MORE THAN JUST LOOKING AT NUMBERS AND PUTTING IN NUMBERS. THERE'S A LOT OF WEALTH BETWEEN BEHIND WHAT HE CAN DO.

SO HIS FOCUS IS GOING TO BE ANALYTICAL DESIGN MONITORING AND AGAIN CROSS TRAINING.

SO THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU WILL SEE TONIGHT PRESENT EACH SECTION SO THAT THE WAY THEY'RE ABLE TO GET MORE COMFORTABLE IN IN PRESENTING THE WORK THAT THEY REALLY PUT SO MUCH TIME INTO. I KNOW MR. MORTON IS A VERY BIG VISION AND MISSION PERSON.

SO WHAT I'VE ASKED MY STAFF TO DO IS TO COME UP WITH A VISION OR MISSION STATEMENT FOR OUR TEAM.

SO WE CAME UP WITH ONE. AND OUR VISION ESSENTIALLY IS TO CREATE A FINANCIAL RESILIENT CITY OF PALM BAY, WHERE COLLABORATIVE ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN ALL STAKEHOLDERS DRIVES AND BALANCED BUDGETS, REVITALIZED INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROBUST PUBLIC SERVICES, EMPOWERING OUR COMMUNITY TO ACHIEVE SHARED GOALS AND SUSTAINABLE GROWTH.

AND HOW WOULD WE DO THAT? OUR MISSION, ESSENTIALLY, IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY BUDGET TEAM IS DEDICATED TO FOSTERING A TRANSPARENT, INCLUSIVE AND SUSTAINABLE BUDGET PROCESS THAT PRIORITIZES FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY, ATTAINABLE GOALS, AND STRATEGIC CAPITAL PLANNING. WE ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY IN LEADERSHIP TO ADDRESS CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC SERVICE NEEDS, ENSURING ENSURING EQUITABLE AND REASONABLE STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC RESOURCES FOR A THRIVING FUTURE.

I'M VERY PROUD OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH.

SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JESSICA HENCHMAN, WHO WILL GO AND START WITH THE EVOLUTION OF THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. AS ANGELICA SAID, I CAME FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M REALLY EXCITED TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'VE COME WITH THE BUDGET AND WHERE WE'VE GONE, BECAUSE I HAVE THE UNIQUE EXPERIENCE OF BEING AN END USER DEPARTMENT AND NOW SEEING IT FROM THE OTHER SIDE. SO WE'LL FIRST TALK ABOUT OUR PREVIOUS FORMAT.

SO UP THROUGH THE FY 25 BUDGET, WE HAD A VERY CITY MANAGER DRIVEN BUDGET PROCESS.

IT WAS OPEN FOR DEPARTMENTS TO GIVE US ALL YOUR WANTS, ALL YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR WHOLE WISH LIST.

AND WITH THAT, WE KIND OF SAW SOME CHALLENGES WITH UNDERDEVELOPED REQUESTS TO THE POINT WHERE SOME PROJECTS WOULD COME THROUGH AND THERE WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH FUNDING, OR THEY WEREN'T FEASIBLE WITHIN THE SCOPE THAT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED. WE ALSO HAD YEAR ROUND BUDGETING AND WHEN TALKING WITH COUNCIL, THE ENDLESS REQUESTS BEFORE COUNCIL AT EACH MEETING OF BUDGET AMENDMENT AND DIPS INTO UNDESIGNATED FUND WERE SOMETHING THAT WE SAW ON A VERY FREQUENT BASIS.

SOME OF OUR BUDGET AMENDMENTS WOULD HAVE 30 TO 40 DIFFERENT REQUESTS AND IN JUST ONE QUARTER.

AND WHAT WE ALSO SAW WITH THIS BUDGET PROCESS WAS THE BUDGET DEVELOPMENT HAPPENED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND VERY SILOED.

SO THE CITY MANAGER PREVIOUSLY WOULD HAVE ONE ON ONE MEETINGS WITH EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS TO GO OVER THEIR REQUESTS.

AND THEN IT WAS REALLY JUST THE DECISION OF THIS IS WHAT'S GOING TO COME IN.

IT WAS GIVEN TO THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT. AND THE FIRST TIME THAT IT WAS PUBLICLY TALKED ABOUT AND BROUGHT TO COUNCIL WAS THAT JULY WORKSHOP.

AND THEN SOMETHING THAT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT WITH OTHER PREVIOUS CHALLENGES IS BEING ABLE TO GET THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND ENGAGEMENT.

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AND SO THIS WAS OUR REALLY OUR TIME TO START MAKING THOSE STEPS TOWARDS THE FOCUS AND THE PROCESS THAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE REALLY STARTED AT FIRST AT DEPARTMENT INITIATIVES AND AT THE BASE LEVEL.

SO WE'VE WORKED WITH DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THEIR BUDGETS INSIDE AND OUT, AND WE ALSO CHALLENGE THEM TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THEIR CAPITAL PLANNING AND REALLY LOOK AT THEIR PROJECTS OVERALL AND WHAT WAS STILL FEASIBLE.

SOME DEPARTMENTS HAD AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED AND THEN SAT ON THE SHELF FOR YEARS, AND THEY WEREN'T FEASIBLE ANYMORE. SO WITH SEAN'S HELP, WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS REDUCED AND MOVE THAT FUNDING TO WHERE THEY'RE REALLY NEEDED AND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE TODAY.

ANOTHER FOCUS WE HAD WITH THIS PROCESS IS YOUR ADOPTED BUDGET DOESN'T INCLUDE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECTS.

SO REALLY SOMETHING ONCE A PROJECT IS APPROVED, YOU SEE IT ONE TIME.

BUT IF IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT, YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY SEEING THAT FISCAL IMPACT IN THE FUTURE YEARS.

SO THE FY 26 BUDGET, WHEN YOU SEE IT IS GOING TO SHOW HIGHER NUMBERS, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A TRUE PICTURE OF WHERE ALL OF YOUR PROJECTS ARE AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS THOSE PROJECTS ARE GOING TO NEED AND THE YEARS TO COME.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS LIMITING BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

SO UNDER MR. MORGAN'S DIRECTION, HE BROUGHT FORTH THE IDEA OF MOVING FORWARD WITH REDUCING THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS YOU SAW AT EACH OF YOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS. SO BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND APRIL, YOU SAW MID-YEAR REQUESTS FROM ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAD NEEDS THAT WEREN'T ADDRESSED IN THE FY 25 BUDGET. BUT SINCE THEN, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE SEEN AS MANY REQUESTS.

AND THAT WAS ALSO A FOCUS ON IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOMETHING, GET IT DONE.

THERE WAS A REAL EMPHASIS ON BY SEPTEMBER 30TH, GET YOUR PURCHASES DONE AND THE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE CLOSED.

GET THEM CLOSED ON TIME. AND THEN WITH MR. MORTON, WE'VE GONE AND LOOKED FORWARD TO STARTING TO INCLUDE COUNCIL.

AND SO NOW WITH TONIGHT'S WORKSHOP AND OUR ONE ON ONE MEETINGS, WE WANTED TO START COMING TO YOU NOW WITH ALL OF THE REQUESTS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD, TO REALLY HONE IN ON WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IN THIS NEXT BUDGET CYCLE.

SO WHY ARE WE MAKING THESE STEPS? OUR BIGGEST GOAL IN THE FUTURE IS FOR A MORE COLLABORATIVE APPROACH WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS FROM THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL TO CITY COUNCIL AND WITH THE CITIZEN. SO IN THE FUTURE, THE FY 27 BUDGET PROCESS IS REALLY GOING TO KICK OFF IN JANUARY.

THIS TYPE OF WORKSHOP WILL HAPPEN THAT EARLY IN THE YEAR, SO THAT WE GET THOSE FOCUS AND THOSE GOALS FROM YOU.

WELL, BEFORE WE EVEN KICK OFF OUR INTERNAL PROCESS WITH THE CITY.

AND THE BIGGEST PART OF THIS IS BECAUSE THAT INTERNAL PROCESS WILL NOW BE GEARED AROUND WHAT YOU ALL GIVE US AS THE GOALS.

IN FACT, WITH THE NEW ERP SYSTEM, WE JUST SAW A DEMONSTRATION.

WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIMIT THE DEPARTMENTS TO ONLY PUTTING IN REQUESTS THAT CORRESPOND TO THOSE GOALS.

SO IF THEY DON'T CHECK THE BOX OR THEY DON'T CORRESPOND TO A GOAL, IT'S NOT A REQUEST THAT IT'S GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH.

AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROCESS IN THE FUTURE, WE ALSO WANT TO START TRANSITIONING AWAY FROM OUR CURRENT PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE MEASURES PROCESS AND GO TO A MORE KPI DRIVEN, WHICH IS MR. MORTON'S FOCUS. AND WITH THAT, WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR OUR MONEY.

ARE WE ACHIEVING WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO.

AND THEN WHAT ARE WE PROVIDING THE SERVICES THAT WE SHOULD BE FOR CITIZENS.

AND THEN FROM THAT, OUR OVERALL GOAL IS TO HAVE A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE BUDGET WITH ATTAINABLE GOALS AND REAL FOCUS ON CAPITAL PLANNING.

AND THAT'S HOW WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PROCESS GO FROM HERE ON FORWARD.

SO WITH THAT, WE DID HAVE THE PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH SOME OF YOU ONE ON ONE ALREADY TO TALK ABOUT YOUR PRIORITIES FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, AND ALSO DISCUSS A FEW CHALLENGES THAT YOU SAW WITH THE PROCESS AND REALLY LONG TERM PLANNING AND THE OVERALL CONSENSUS WE GOT FOR CHALLENGES WITH THE PREVIOUS PROCESS, FOR THOSE EXCESSIVE DIPS INTO THE UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE, AND REALLY WANTING TO FOCUS ON THE LARGE PROJECTS AND PLANNING AND STARTING TO GET THOSE INTO WORKS. OVERALL, THE TOP FIVE INITIATIVES WE SAW THE BIGGEST THING ACROSS THE BOARD WAS ROAD CAPACITY.

NEARLY EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU HAD THAT AS A TOP PRIORITY.

YOU ALSO TALKED A LOT ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN TERMS OF POLICE VEHICLES, IN TERMS OF FIRE STATIONS. THE NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS WAS ALSO MENTIONED, BUT THERE WERE OTHER THINGS, SUCH AS ONE COUNCILMAN BROUGHT UP. YOU'VE ALREADY GONE TO A FOUR MONTH RESERVE PROCESS, BUT HE WOULD LIKE TO SLOWLY WORK TOWARDS MAYBE GETTING THAT TO A SIX MONTH RESERVE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. OTHER THINGS THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT WAS COMPLIANCE.

STORMWATER. INCREASING UTILITY SERVICES. GETTING MORE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ON CITY SERVICES.

SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WHAT THE REST OF YOU ALSO HAVE TO ADD TO THAT TONIGHT.

SO WHERE DO WE GO? FOR NOW, TO START THE FY 26 BUDGET, REALLY, WE START WITH WHAT OUR KNOWNS ARE.

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SO ON YOUR SCREEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF THE CURRENT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THAT WE KNOW.

WITH FIRE IT'S 10% ACROSS THE BOARD. WITH POLICE THEY HAVE THREE BARGAINING UNITS.

THE OFFICER'S UNIT HAS A 5% BASE SALARY INCREASE, AND THEN THEY ALSO RECEIVE A MERIT STEP ON THEIR ANNIVERSARY YEAR.

AND THEN OUR SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS HAVE A 1.9% BASE INCREASE AND A ONE MERIT STEP.

SO THEIR OVERALL IMPACT IS ABOUT 5%. OUR GENERAL EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW, THE PROPOSAL IS 5% ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND BLUE AND WHITE ARE ABOUT TO GET STARTED WITH NEGOTIATIONS.

SO UNDER MR. MORGAN'S DIRECTION, THERE WAS NO IMPACT, NO INCREASE FOR SALARIES FOR THEM INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET AS OF RIGHT NOW.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR, YOUR GUIDANCE TONIGHT IS, IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR CONSENT CONTINGENCIES SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET FOR THOSE NEGOTIATION PROCESS, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING HERE SOON.

I ALSO WANTED TO TALK ABOUT PENSIONS BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG ITEM AND WE ALREADY KNOW THE IMPACT FOR NEXT YEAR.

SO NEXT YEAR THE INCREASE IS ABOUT 2.5 MILLION.

AND I ALSO GAVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL INFORMATION FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS ON HOW IT'S INCREASED.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S PENSION FROM FY 23 TO FY 26 WAS OVER A 200% INCREASE.

YEAR TO YEAR, IT'S BEEN ABOUT 55%, 53%. AND THEN THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT A 27% BETWEEN THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR.

AND THEN FOR THE FIRE PENSIONS, YOU HAD ABOUT AN 82% INCREASE AND AN AVERAGE ABOUT 22.6% FOR THEM ROUGHLY THE PAST FEW YEARS.

EACH YEAR, IT'S BEEN AN ADDITIONAL $2.5 MILLION THAT WE'VE HAD TO ADD INTO THE BUDGET FOR THOSE PENSIONS.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANTED TO PRESENT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

ALSO, WE WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FTES DURING THAT PERIOD.

EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS RECEIVED 30 POSITIONS THAT WERE IMPACTED, IMPACTED PENSION.

SO SOME OF THE GUIDELINES THIS YEAR THAT WE HAD UNDER MR. MORGAN'S DIRECTION WITH BUDGET DEVELOPMENT IS WE WENT BACK TO AN OPERATING MAXIMUM, WHICH MEANS DEPARTMENTS WERE TOLD YOUR OPERATING BUDGET THAT YOU HAD IN FY 25, MINUS ANY ONE TIME EXPENDITURES THAT YOU WERE GIVEN FOR JUST THIS YEAR.

THAT'S YOUR BUDGET TO START WITH FOR NEXT YEAR.

THEY HAD ABILITY TO MOVE THEIR FUNDS IN BETWEEN ACCOUNTS SO THAT THEY CAN ADJUST FOR ANY NEW NEEDS THEY HAD.

BUT IF THEY NEEDED TO EXCEED THEIR TOTAL AMOUNT FOR THEIR DEPARTMENT, THEY HAD TO PUT IN A BUDGET REQUEST.

WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IN OUR FY 26 BUDGET REQUEST, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW OPERATING IMPACTS, AND A LOT OF THOSE OPERATING IMPACTS HAVE RECURRING FUNDS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST AN IMPACT TO FY 26. IF THEY'RE APPROVED, THERE'S IMPACTS FOR EVERY YEAR MOVING FORWARD.

AND ON THE ON THE SIDE YOU'LL ALSO SEE OUR FY 26 BUDGET FOCUS FROM MR. MORGAN. THIS WAS KIND OF HIS DIRECTION THAT HE GAVE FOR DEPARTMENTS OF CONTINUING YOUR CURRENT LEVEL OF SERVICE.

WHAT YOU MUST DO NEXT YEAR. WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND SERVICES AND IT'S NOT REALLY A WISH LIST.

LET US KNOW WHAT YOU NEED TO KEEP GOING FORWARD.

AND WITH THIS WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT NO INCREASES TO FTE ACCOUNTS.

SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN OUR OUR BUDGET REQUEST IS THE ONLY PERSONNEL ITEMS WE HAVE WERE RECLASSIFICATIONS OF CURRENT POSITIONS.

AND SO YOU HAVE AN ADDITIONAL HANDOUT AS WELL.

TONIGHT WE DID SORT OF A VACANCY SNAPSHOT IN TERMS OF VACANT POSITIONS.

AND THIS IS THROUGH MAY. SO RIGHT NOW CITYWIDE THERE'S ABOUT 130 FULL TIME VACANCIES.

YOUR LARGEST DEPARTMENTS WITH VACANCIES ARE POLICE THAT HAVE 43.

UTILITIES HAS 42 AND PUBLIC WORKS HAS ABOUT 20.

FOR POLICE, YOUR BIGGEST IMPACT ARE GOING TO BE YOUR SWORN POSITIONS.

THEY HAVE ABOUT 30 SWORN POSITIONS OUT OF THE 43.

ARE THERE VACANCIES AND THEN NINE THAT ARE THERE DISPATCHERS, WHICH IS ALSO A HUGE IMPACT TO THEM.

ON THE FIRE SIDE, YOU HAVE 11 VACANCIES, NINE OF WHICH ARE FIREFIGHTER VACANCIES.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES WE HAVE. I ALSO HAVE A SORT OF BREAKDOWN ON THE AVERAGE LENGTH OF VACANCY FOR A POSITION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY RIGHT NOW IS SIX MONTHS, AND THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT THE AVERAGE FOR THOSE KEY DEPARTMENTS TO.

I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ABOUT FOUR MONTHS, BUT POLICE IS ABOUT SIX MONTHS.

WE DO HAVE SOME POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OPEN FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

IN FACT, IN POLICE, THEY HAVE SOME OF THEIR FY 24 APPROVED POSITIONS THAT THEY RECEIVED THAT ARE STILL NOT FILLED.

IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO FILL THOSE SPECIALTY SPOTS WHEN THEY'RE STILL BRINGING IN THE NEW HIRES.

SO SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS DO HAVE A LONGER LENGTH OF TIME UNTIL THEY'RE FILLED.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SHANE TO TALK ABOUT THE REQUESTS. SO HEY EVERYBODY.

MY NAME IS SHANE BYRD, AS ANGELICA HAD GRACIOUSLY INTRODUCED ME.

I ACTUALLY CAME FROM A LITTLE TOWN WEST OF ATLANTA.

SO SEEING KIND OF THE ACTIVITY HERE, IT'S A IT'S A BIT OF A CHANGE.

BUT WHAT THEY TASKED ME WITH IN THIS PRESENTATION WAS ESSENTIALLY LOOKING AT ALL OF THE REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS,

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SO THAT WAY IT'S DIGESTIBLE. SO THAT WAY YOU ALL KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS OF THE REQUESTS WE'VE RECEIVED, AS WELL AS WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE IN THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO MAKE THESE REQUESTS.

SO JUST FOR SOME QUICK STATS, JUST OFF THE TOP, WE RECEIVED OVER 407 TOTAL REQUESTS TOTALING $234.7 MILLION OVER THE SPAN OF 26 THROUGH 2030, SO 234.7 MILLION, WITH 37 OF THOSE BEING PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS.

NOW TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT ON WHAT IS PRIORITY ONE, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE YOUR ITEMS THAT HAVE SOME INHERENT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT WILL BE RECURRING OR IS MANDATED BY LAW. SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANT TO HONE IN ON AND FOCUS ON, BECAUSE THOSE ARE COSTS THAT JUST DON'T GO AWAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO TYPICALLY STICK AROUND. SO WHAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED IS THE GENERAL FUND, BECAUSE THAT IS A HUGE PORTION OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS THAT Y'ALL WILL BE TAKING PART OF. AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT FOR JUST ALONE IN OUR 2026 REQUEST FOR PRIORITY ONES, THE GENERAL FUND RECEIVED 3.4 MILLION OF THOSE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT OF THAT IS GOING TO BE RELATED TO THE OPERATING COSTS.

ABOUT 3 MILLION IS RELATED TO OPERATING. SO THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE FUNCTIONS TO KEEP CITY SERVICES AND OPERATIONS GOING THAT ARE PRIORITY.

AND THEN OF COURSE BROKEN DOWN BY THE OTHER SUPPORTIVE FUNDS.

BUT THAT GRAND TOTAL OF $11.7 MILLION OF 2026 REQUESTS FOR PRIORITY ONE ITEMS. AND THEN AS WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL BREAKDOWN BY DEPARTMENTS, YOU'LL ACTUALLY SEE THOSE PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS BROKEN DOWN BY THE GENERAL FUNDS DEPARTMENTS. OF THAT $3.4 MILLION OF GENERAL FUND PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS, YOU'LL SEE THAT 1.3 MILLION OF THAT IS FIRE.

THOSE ARE THE THE LARGER AMOUNT OF OUR PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC WORKS.

AND THEN FOR OTHER FUNDS, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS LIKE BUILDING PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES.

THOSE ARE SEPARATE, AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE ORIGINAL SLIDE.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE IT BROKEN DOWN LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT YOU'LL SEE. AM I GOING OH, LET ME GO BACK. LET'S SEE HERE. SO IF WE GO BACK YOU'LL SEE THAT THE BREAKDOWN FOR JUST GENERAL FUND.

AND THEN OF COURSE OUR DIFFERENT OTHER FUNDS THAT MAKE UP THAT TOTAL OF 11.7.

SO 3.4 HERE AND THEN THE REMAINING 8.3 MILLION IN THOSE OTHER FUNDS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A BREAKDOWN BETWEEN WHAT GENERAL FUND DOLLARS CAN DO AND THESE OTHER FUNDS FOR THOSE PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS.

SO AS WE DIG INTO THE PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS FOR RECURRING COSTS, YOU'LL NOTE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, MOST OF THESE PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS HAVE AN ONGOING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OR RELATED COST.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT JUST BETWEEN FY 26 AND FY 30, THE GENERAL FUND ALONE WILL HAVE $12.7 MILLION OF THOSE RECURRING PRIORITY ONE COSTS. SO JUST TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BREAKDOWN FOR OTHER FUNDS.

SO NOW AS WE GET INTO THOSE RECURRING COSTS AGAIN WE GET A BREAKDOWN BY THE DEPARTMENTS.

JUST SHOWING FOR EXAMPLE, FIRES RECURRING RELATED PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS TOTALING 4.5 MILLION, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC WORKS, PARKS AND FACILITIES AND INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

KIND OF THOSE POWERHOUSE DEPARTMENTS THAT SUSTAIN A LOT OF THE FUNCTION FOR CITY OPERATIONS.

AND THEN AGAIN, GOING INTO THE BREAKDOWN FOR THE OTHER FUNDS, JUST AGAIN, SHOWING WHAT THOSE RECURRING COSTS LOOK LIKE OVER THE PERIOD OF 26 THROUGH FY 30. NOW WHAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE WAS JUST A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THESE TOP REQUESTS BY DEPARTMENT.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE TOP TEN REQUESTS FOR FIRE AND THE BREAKDOWN BY YEAR FOR THOSE REQUESTS THROUGH FY 30.

JUST TO GIVE A KIND OF A GOOD ILLUSTRATION OF WHAT IS IT THAT MAKES UP SOME OF THESE PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS, AND WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THOSE PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS? SO JUST AS AN EXAMPLE FOR FIRE UNIFORMS AND BUNKER GEAR AND THEN RELATED THINGS LIKE AIR BOTTLE TESTING, JUST THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. AND WE GET INTO PUBLIC WORKS AND PARKS AND FACILITIES.

AGAIN JUST THESE ONGOING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS OR REQUIRED ITEMS THAT ARE RECURRING COSTS IN THEIR BREAKDOWN.

OKAY. AND THEN LASTLY, WE'VE GOT POLICE HERE JUST AGAIN SHOWING THAT BREAKDOWN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.

OKAY. AND WE'VE OF COURSE GOT SOME VISUALIZATIONS JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT COMPOSITION BREAKDOWN, JUST REALLY SHOWING THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE GENERAL FUND, ARE GOING TO BE OPERATING RELATED.

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WE HAVE OPERATING MAKING UP 87% OF THE GENERAL FUND'S PRIORITY ONE REQUEST.

AND THEN OF COURSE, CIP AND PROJECT RELATED REQUESTS MAKING UP 7% IN CAPITAL OUTLAY BEING 6%.

SO JUST REALLY SHOWING HOW MUCH OF THAT IS GOING INTO CONTINUED OPERATIONS.

AND THEN AGAIN, ANOTHER VISUALIZATION, BUT THIS TIME FOR THE OTHER FUNDS THAT ARE NOT GENERAL FUND, JUST AGAIN SHOWING HOW MUCH IS OPERATING VERSUS HOW MUCH IS FOR THE CAPITAL OUTLAY OR FOR CIP AND PROJECT RELATED TYPE OF REQUESTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.

AND THEN OVERALL ALL FUNDS AGAIN, JUST GIVING YOU THAT THAT BIG PIECE OF THE PIE THERE, SHOWING HOW MUCH OPERATING TAKES UP A LARGE CHUNK OF THOSE REQUESTS THAT WE RECEIVED. SO NOW WE GET INTO THE OTHER REQUESTS.

SO OF THE 407 REQUESTS, 37 WERE PRIORITY ONE.

AND THEN THE REMAINING ARE ESSENTIALLY EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT'S REQUESTS THAT THEY'VE CATEGORIZED AND RANKED ACCORDING TO THEIR PRIORITIES.

AND WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS IN ON THAT GENERAL FUND DOLLAR AMOUNT OF $32 MILLION.

AS YOU'LL SEE, IT'S BROKEN DOWN WITH A TOTAL ACROSS ALL FUNDS BEING $90 MILLION REQUESTED IN FY 26.

SO THIS IS JUST THE FY 26 OTHER REQUESTS. AND 32 MILLION OF THAT IS GENERAL FUND.

AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT IS GOING TO BE YOUR OPERATING RELATED REQUESTS AND THEN CAPITAL OUTLAY.

SO AS WE GET INTO THE BREAKDOWN OF DEPARTMENTS, YOU'LL KIND OF SEE WHO ARE THE THE BIG REQUESTERS, SO TO SPEAK, THE FOLKS THAT HAD EITHER THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF ITEMS OR THE LARGEST DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

OFTENTIMES YOU'LL SEE WITH FIRE THERE'S A LOT OF SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT THAT IS VERY EXPENSIVE.

SO THAT OFTEN ENDS UP EATING UP A GOOD BIT OF THEIR REQUESTS TOTAL.

SO FOR THE FIRE, THEY HAD 11.8 MILLION. AND THEN PARKS AND FACILITIES WITH 14.4 MILLION.

AND JUST TO NOTE, PARKS ISN'T JUST PARKS. IT'S ALL CITY FACILITIES, INCLUDING ALL THE PARKS AND RELATED RECREATION FACILITIES.

BUT THEY HAD 14.4 MILLION. AND LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE SOME OF THE BREAKDOWN OF THEIR TOP REQUESTS FOR YOU ALL.

OKAY. AND THEN FOR THE OTHER FUNDS, AGAIN, JUST KIND OF KEEPING THAT SEPARATED FROM THE GENERAL FUND. JUST SO THAT WAY YOU GUYS CAN SEE OVERALL WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR ALL OF YOUR OTHER FUNDING SOURCES. FOR FY 26, WE RECEIVED $58.3 MILLION IN REQUESTS FOR THE OTHER FUNDS.

SO. SO WITH THAT 32 MILLION JUST GENERAL FUND AND THEN 58 MILLION FOR ALL OTHER FUNDS. SO OF COURSE, WE WANT TO LOOK AGAIN AT WHAT DO THE RECURRING COSTS LOOK LIKE FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER REQUESTS. AND YOU'LL SEE FOR THE GENERAL FUND OF THOSE RECURRING REQUESTS WE RECEIVED BETWEEN FY 26 AND FY 30, THEY'LL BE A ROUGH TOTAL OF ABOUT $18 MILLION IN THOSE RECURRING COSTS FOR THAT TIME PERIOD.

SO JUST THINKING, WHAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING OR SOME OF THESE PURCHASES BEING MADE? AND THEN WHAT IS THE ONGOING OPERATIONAL OPERATIONAL IMPACT THAT THESE PURCHASES AND PROJECTS AND EXPANSIONS OF SERVICES WILL HAVE? YOU KNOW, YOU BUILD A BUILDING, YOU GOT TO YOU GOT TO STAFF IT, YOU'VE GOT TO REPAIR IT, YOU'VE GOT TO PAY FOR THE ELECTRICAL AND ALL THAT.

SO THIS JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS AT A HIGH LEVEL.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE OVERALL WHEN WE HAVE SOME OF THESE ONGOING OPERATIONAL NEEDS AS WELL AS JUST PROJECTS COME ONLINE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE IMPACTS ON OUR CIP. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT $18 MILLION FIGURE THERE AND RECURRING WITH 27 TOTAL ACROSS ALL FUNDS. AND THEN AGAIN, JUST GETTING THAT BREAKDOWN SEPARATE OF GENERAL FUND WITH ALL OF THE OTHER FUNDS BY DEPARTMENT LISTING THAT $9.2 MILLION RECURRING COSTS. AND YOU'LL NOTE THAT MOST OF IT'S FRONT LOADED ON FY 26, WITH THE BUILDING KIND OF SHARING THAT 4.8 THOUSAND OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. AND THEN WE GET INTO THE ACTUAL EXAMPLES.

SO AS I MENTIONED WITH FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF THEIR REQUESTS BECAUSE IT IS SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT, IT'S GOT TO GET ORDERED. IT TAKES A YEAR OUT, SOMETIMES LONGER, TO TO ACTUALLY RECEIVE WHAT YOU'VE ORDERED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BUILD IT, MANUFACTURE IT AND THEN SEND IT TO YOU. BUT YOU'LL NOTE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR $11.4 MILLION IN REQUESTS IS RELATED TO FIRE ENGINES, AND THAT SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT LIKE THE NEW QUINTS THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.

SO THOSE ALONE MAKE UP ALMOST HALF OF THAT $11 MILLION FIGURE.

SO JUST FOR FIRE ENGINES AND A HEAVY RESCUE. THEN WE GET INTO THE POLICE.

AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF POLICE REQUESTS WERE RELATED TO REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND JUST REPLACEMENT ITEMS LIKE THAT.

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THEN WE GET INTO PARKS AND FACILITIES, AND JUST ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE SAW WAS THE REQUEST FOR UPGRADED LIGHTING MUSCO LIGHTING TO REPLACE EXISTING LIGHTING AT EXISTING FIELDS AND RELATED RECREATIONAL FACILITIES.

SO THAT MAKES UP A LARGE AMOUNT OF THEIR 9.6 MILLION IN FY 26 REQUESTS.

WE GET INTO PUBLIC WORKS. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

MOST OF THEIRS IS RELATED TO SPECIALIZED EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY LIKE GRAPPLE TRUCK OR DUMP TRUCK.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE SPECIALIZED PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.

SO OFTENTIMES THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT PRICIER THAN GOING OUT AND BUYING YOUR TYPICAL CHEVY OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO SOME OF THESE LARGER, MORE EXPENSIVE PURCHASES TEND TO FLOAT FLOAT TOWARDS THE TOP.

BUT THAT MAKES UP THAT $2.2 MILLION FIGURE FOR SOME OF PUBLIC WORKS REQUESTS.

BUT AS YOU'LL SEE, MOST OF IT IS RELATED TO LARGE EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY.

AND THEN WE GET INTO IT AND RECREATION. NOT A WHOLE LOT OF REQUESTS FROM THEM.

IT IS ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE NEEDS THAT CONSISTENTLY, ALWAYS MOVING FORWARD.

YOU'RE ALWAYS HAVING TO STAY AHEAD OF THE TECHNOLOGY CURVE. SO THEY'VE GOT A FEW REQUESTS RELATED TO SECURITY CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL, VARIOUS CITY FACILITIES AS WELL AS GPS AND CITY VEHICLES.

AND THEN WE GET INTO OUR RECREATION, WHICH IS A LOT OF JUST THE ESSENTIAL OPERATIONAL NEEDS SUCH AS CHEMICALS, EQUIPMENT, REPLACEMENTS AND THEN A COUPLE VEHICLE WRAPS.

AND THEN LASTLY ACTUALLY LASTLY ON THOSE WE'VE GOT LEGISLATIVE HUMAN RESOURCES AND PROCUREMENT.

SO FOR YOU ALL, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A BROADCAST SYSTEM FOR THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WE'RE IN NOW.

AND THEN A RECLASS OF A POSITION FOR AN ADMIN SECRETARY POSITION.

SO THOSE ARE TWO OF LEGISLATIVES REQUESTS. I THINK THAT WAS THE ONLY TWO WE RECEIVED.

AND THEN THERE IS ONE REQUEST FROM HUMAN RESOURCES AND ONE REQUEST FROM PROCUREMENT.

JUST SMALL MINOR REQUESTS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, BUT WANTED TO INCLUDE THEM IN THIS AS WELL FOR YOU ALL.

AND THEN JUST LASTLY HERE AFTER AS, AS WE GET OUT OF THE OTHER REQUESTS, JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THAT OVERALL COMPOSITION BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THE GENERAL FUND AND HOW THOSE REQUESTS OVERALL BREAK DOWN BY PERSONNEL OPERATING CIP AND PROJECTS, AND THEN YOUR CAPITAL OUTLAY. AGAIN, JUST ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT.

SHOWING OTHER FUNDS. AGAIN, SOMETHING TO NOTE WITH THE OTHER FUNDS IS YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF CIP AND PROJECT RELATED ITEMS, AS YOU'LL SEE, WITH PUBLIC WORKS MAKING UP THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR REQUESTS THAT THEY'VE MADE.

AND THEN JUST ANOTHER VISUALIZATION SHOWING THAT COMPOSITION AND BREAKDOWN, SHOWING THAT OTHER REQUESTS, ESPECIALLY GENERAL FUND MAKING UP A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT BEING 36% AND THEN 31% BEING, OF COURSE, GO ROAD BOND FUNDS. SO USING THAT MONEY TO RESURFACE SOME ROADS AND REHAB SOME OF THE CITY STREETS.

OKAY, SO OVERALL BIG PICTURE TOTAL FY 26 REQUESTS.

OF COURSE HIGHLIGHTING THAT GENERAL FUND DOLLAR FIGURE, BECAUSE THAT'S ESPECIALLY THE AREA THAT WE WILL NEED Y'ALL'S GUIDANCE AND AND DIRECTION ON FOR THAT $35.5 MILLION IN REQUESTS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S TOTAL REQUESTS OVERALL, WITH 102 BEING REQUESTED OVERALL CITYWIDE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES, BUT REALLY THAT $35.5 MILLION FIGURE, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY WE CAN FUND THESE REQUESTS. WHAT IS THE MOST STRATEGIC AND ADVANTAGEOUS WAY TO PLAN FOR SOME OF THESE LARGE REQUESTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE? AND THEN I WANTED TO GIVE ANOTHER BREAKDOWN. LAST BREAKDOWN HERE, JUST SHOWING WHAT THE RECURRING BIG PICTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR THESE REQUESTS.

AND YOU'LL NOTE FOR GENERAL FUND, AGAIN, HIGHLIGHTING AND HONING IN ON THAT FIGURE.

SPECIFICALLY THAT $30.7 MILLION IN RECURRING COSTS BETWEEN FY 26 AND FY 30.

SO AS WE SEEK YOUR JUDGMENT AND YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR DIRECTION, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS HOW CAN WE BEST FUND THESE REQUESTS OR STRATEGICALLY IMPLEMENT THESE REQUESTS. THAT WAY, ALL THE CITY'S NEEDS AND SERVICES ARE PROVIDED, AND WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD, MOVING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE AND ENHANCING OPERATIONS AS WE DO THAT.

AND THEN JUST THE LAST SLIDE TO KIND OF FINISH OFF HERE BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO SEAN.

JUST LOOKING FOR THAT DIRECTION ON THE EMERGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.

YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE ROAD WIDENINGS, INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, REHABILITATION OF ROADS, AND THEN OF COURSE, GETTING PLANNING, DESIGN, ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING, ENGINEERING AND OTHER RELATED TYPES OF SOFT COSTS KNOCKED OUT

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BUT JUST THE EMERGING NEED FOR FLEET SERVICES AND FUELING ACROSS THE CITY.

AS THE CITY GROWS AND THE NEED FOR SERVICING DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS GROWS, OF COURSE, FLEET IS A HUGE COMPONENT OF THAT.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, OF COURSE, YOU'LL NEVER, NEVER, EVER, EVER HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY. STUFF BREAKS DOWN, GOES OUT OF STYLE, CHANGES, NEEDS CHANGE.

EVERYTHING RELATED TO VEHICLES, EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY ARE KIND OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE KNOW WILL ALWAYS HAVE THOSE RELATED COSTS.

NOW WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST AND MOST STRATEGIC WAY TO CONTINUE SUPPORTING THOSE RELATED COSTS.

AND THEN, OF COURSE EXPANDING OUR OPERATIONAL CAPACITY.

SO THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SEAN SPILLERS.

ALL RIGHT. LET ME BRING THIS UP A LITTLE BIT.

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS SEAN SPILLERS.

I'M YOUR CAPITAL. NASA PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, AND I WANT TO GO OVER THAT.

THIS IS THE FUN PART. CAPITAL IS ABOUT GROWTH.

IT'S EXCITING. IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING BIGGER THAN WHAT WE ARE NOW.

SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUT THAT OUT. I'M ALSO JOINED BY MY MASTERS OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION CLASS.

SO THEY CAME OUT TO SUPPORT ME AS WELL. WE HAVE IT ON THURSDAYS AND THEY DECIDED TO COME DOWN AND SAY HI.

ALL RIGHT. SO THESE ARE THE BIG THINGS WE'RE GOING TO BE COVERING CITY WIDE CAPITAL REQUESTS, GENERAL FUND CAPITAL REQUESTS, SPECIAL REVENUE AND BOND CAPITAL REQUESTS, GOVERNMENTAL CAPITAL REQUESTS BY SECTOR, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS PRETTY COOL. AND FUTURE PLANNING.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE CAPITAL REQUEST BY FUND.

WE HAVE THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS THE LARGEST ONE, FOLLOWED BY THE UTILITIES FUND AND THEN THE STORMWATER FUND.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE BUILDING FUND. THIS IS THE CAPITAL OUTLAY REQUEST.

IF YOU GUYS ASK WHAT'S CAPITAL OUTLAY. THAT'S MACHINE AND EQUIPMENT.

SO VEHICLES MACHINERY, EQUIPMENT AND THEN CAPITAL CIP.

YOU'LL SEE A LOT IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. PLANS.

SO THAT WILL BE THE PROJECTS THAT WE DO FOR THE CITY.

NEXT IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.

THE GENERAL FUND HAS 6 MILLION. THE UTILITIES FUND IS ACTUALLY LEADING THE CHARGE ON THIS ONE WITH 13 MILLION.

TOTAL IS 22.1 MILLION. ALL RIGHT. THESE ARE THE GENERAL FUND.

NOW JUST FOCUSING ON THE GENERAL FUND. THESE ARE THE CAPITAL REQUESTS.

WE SEE THAT MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT IS LEADING THE CHARGE RIGHT HERE WITH 73% AS COMPARED TO 27% FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS HERE IN THE CITY, AS YOU GUYS CAN SEE.

AND THIS IS JUST FOR FY 26. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND CAPITAL OUTLAY AKA MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT.

WE SEE THAT FIRES NUMBER ONE WAS 68, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC WORKS WITH 16, THEN POLICE, THEN PARKS AND FACILITIES.

ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUEST.

WE OF COURSE HAVE THE LEGISLATIVE THAT WE JUST WENT OVER.

WE HAVE THE IT WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE IT SYSTEM.

AND THEN WE HAVE PARKS AND FACILITIES WITH THE PARKS AND THEN THE DIFFERENT FACILITIES IN THE CITY.

AND THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND, SPECIAL REVENUE AND BOND REQUESTS.

THIS IS STUFF THAT DOES NOT DIRECTLY AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND.

SO WE HAVE THE GO BONDS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

SO I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS PRETTY INTERESTING TO SHOW. SO YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THE GENERAL FUND EVEN THOUGH IT'S A GOVERNMENTAL REQUEST.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THIS IS THE LAST ONE THE GOVERNMENT CAPITAL REQUEST BY SECTOR.

AND I BELIEVE THIS FOLLOWS A LOT OF WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS.

TRANSPORTATION OF COURSE, IS NUMBER ONE. THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE AFFECTING THAT WOULD BE MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT FOR PUBLIC WORKS.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE GO BONDS AND IMPACT FEES AND ABOUT 66% OF THE IMPACT FEES THAT WE SHOW ON HERE WERE TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEES. SO THEY WENT TOWARDS TRANSPORTATION.

PUBLIC SAFETY IS OF COURSE, NUMBER TWO. AND THIS IS ALL MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT IF YOU NOTICE FROM THE PREVIOUS SLIDES.

SO THIS IS ALL OUR MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT NEEDS.

PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENT WOULD MOSTLY BE PARKS AND FACILITIES.

SO THIS WOULD BE OUR PARK UPGRADES, OUR MUSCO LIGHTING UPGRADES THINGS LIKE THAT.

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AND THIS IS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY CITYWIDE. SO THIS JUST ISN'T THE GENERAL FUND.

THIS IS FOR BUILDING UTILITIES, STORMWATER, ALL THE REST OF THEM TOGETHER.

ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS FUTURE PLANNING.

THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE. THIS SHOWS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN THE FUTURE A LITTLE BIT MORE DYNAMIC APPROACH.

WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND CAPITAL OUTLAY.

WE WANT TO PLAN FOR FUTURE PROJECTS AND EQUIPMENT USING GUIDANCE FROM CITY LEADERSHIP.

WE WOULD LIKE TO FORECAST FUTURE EXPENDITURES USING THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX DATA SO THAT WE CAN HAVE APPROPRIATE AMOUNTS PER YEAR, BECAUSE WHAT IT COSTS THIS YEAR IS NOT WHAT IT WILL COST THREE YEARS FROM NOW.

AND THEN LASTLY IS CONDUCT REVENUE AND CASH FLOW ANALYSIS TO PROVIDE OPTIONS TO FUND FUTURE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES.

AND THAT I THINK, WILL BE A REALLY, REALLY POSITIVE THING FOR THE CITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT OUT.

OUR GOAL WAS AN HOUR AND I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT 45 MINUTES.

SO THIS IS AN IMPORTANT SLIDE THAT I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUT UP.

MOST OF THESE DATES, IF NOT ALL OF THEM, SHOULD ALREADY BE ON YOUR CALENDAR.

LIKE I SAY, I WORK WITH THERESA AND TERRY IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY TO ALREADY PUT THOSE ON THE CALENDAR AND TO KIND OF MAKE SURE THAT THEY KIND OF ALIGN WITH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS AND WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR JULY 8TH.

AT THAT TIME WE WILL DISCUSS CURRENT AND A MID-YEAR REVIEW.

SO AT THAT POINT WE'LL HAVE BETTER A BETTER ANALYSIS OF WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY STANDING IN FISCAL YEAR 25.

AND REALLY, MY GOAL IS ALWAYS TO COME TO YOU WITH A AS MUCH.

2026 PROPOSED DATA AS POSSIBLE. THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S DEADLINE TO PROVIDE US WITH OUR FINAL PROPERTY EVALUATIONS IS JULY 1ST. SO THAT USUALLY GIVES ME ABOUT A WEEK TO KIND OF TUNE THINGS UP TO WHERE I KNOW WHAT THE RATES WOULD LOOK LIKE.

SO JULY 8TH, I WILL CAUTION IS, IS THAT IT'S A VERY HEAVY DATA KIND OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

YOU'LL BE OVERLOADED WITH A LOT OF NUMBERS. BUT WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU KIND OF GUIDE YOU THROUGH THAT.

AT YOUR JULY 17TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING YOU WILL SEE A MEMO FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR WHERE YOU WILL BE CERTIFYING THE TAXABLE VALUE, THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE, AND SET YOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

SO WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT ON THE JULY 8TH WORKSHOP.

BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU WILL DO IS YOU WILL GO AHEAD AND SET A PROPOSED RATE FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR.

THAT IS NOT THE FINAL RATE. I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE TO PROPOSE A RATE AS CURRENTLY IS BECAUSE YOU CAN ALWAYS GO DOWN.

YOU CAN NEVER GO UP, RIGHT? AND THAT EVEN COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.

THEY THEY DO ENCOURAGE TO NOT GO IN SO LOW BECAUSE IF THERE IS AN ISSUE AS FAR AS ANY TYPE OF HURRICANES THAT YOU MAY, MAY HAVE SO THAT PROPOSED RATE IS REALLY JUST WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

RIGHT. AND THEN WE'LL KIND OF GO INTO THE ADOPTION PROCESS.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT IN A MEMO. THEN BY JULY 31ST, MY GOAL IS TO GO AHEAD AND PUBLISH A PROPOSED BUDGET.

MY GOAL IS ALWAYS TO PUBLISH A PROPOSED BUDGET AND HAVE THAT REALLY BE WHAT WE GO AHEAD AND ADOPT.

OUR GOAL REALLY THIS YEAR, ANY PREVIOUS YEARS AND FOR THE FUTURE YEAR IS TO PUT A PRODUCT TOGETHER FOR YOU THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE ENOUGH IN MOVING ON AND BLESSING INTO THE ACTUAL ADOPTION ADOPTION PROCESS IN THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS MY GOAL. HOWEVER, JUST IN CASE AUGUST 5TH WE ALWAYS ADD AN OPTIONAL WORKSHOP DAY.

SO IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT QUITE COMFORTABLE WITH, OR YOU STILL WANT TO DISCUSS SOME MORE WE WILL ADD AN OPTIONAL PUBLIC WORKSHOP TO THAT DATE AT THE JULY 8TH WORKSHOP, IF THAT WOULD BE THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO DISCUSS WHETHER YOU WANT TO HOLD THE ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP OR NOT. I KNOW IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE OPTED NOT TO HOLD THE OPTIONAL WORKSHOP JUST BECAUSE THE WORK THAT WE'VE KIND OF DONE IN PUTTING EVERYTHING TOGETHER WAS WAS SATISFACTORY FOR YOUR NEEDS. I HAVE ALREADY I DON'T WANT TO SAY SET THE DATES, BUT I'VE ALREADY PRELIMINARILY HELD THE DATES FOR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AND THE ADVERTISEMENT.

SO THESE OUT OF ALL DATES THAT YOU SEE UP THERE, THOSE THREE ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT DATES THAT YOU HAVE TO KNOW.

BECAUSE THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TRUTH IN MILLAGE OR TRIM SECTION,

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SO WE HOLD THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WHERE WE KIND OF GO IN WITH WHAT WE HAVE, AND THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AND IT HAS TO BE HELD WITHIN 2 TO 5 DAYS OF THE ADVERTISEMENT, AND THE ADVERTISEMENT HAS TO OCCUR WITHIN 15 CALENDAR DAYS OF THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIREMENT. AND THEN TO THROW IN A WRENCH ON TOP OF THAT.

WE CANNOT HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE SAME DATE AS THE COUNTY COMMISSION OR THE SCHOOL BOARD.

SO THEY USUALLY PUBLISH THEIR DATES, AND THEN ALL THE TAXING AUTHORITY AND MUNICIPALITIES WITHIN THE COUNTY HAVE TO WORK AROUND THOSE DATES.

I USUALLY PICK WEDNESDAYS TO ACCOMMODATE REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.

SO WEDNESDAYS HISTORICALLY HAVE SORT OF BEEN THE GO TO.

I TRY TO ALSO AVOID SEPTEMBER 11TH. I KNOW LAST YEAR THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE DAYS.

AND THEN WE ENDED UP HAVING A HURRICANE. SO WE ENDED UP ADOPTING THE SECOND HEARING ON HAVING THAT ON OCTOBER 1ST.

SO THESE ARE JUST VERY STATUTORY REQUIRED TYPES OF DATES.

AND I ALREADY HAVE GOTTEN THE APPROVAL FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE THAT THEY DO MEET COMPLIANCE.

SO ONCE IN JULY, AT THAT JULY 17TH REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING, ONCE YOU APPROVE THEM, WE CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THEM.

THEY HAVE TO HAPPEN. THEY HAVE TO HAPPEN AT 6 P.M..

THEY HAVE TO HAPPEN IN A CERTAIN PROCESS. THESE ARE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT I, AFTER ALL THIS HAPPENS, HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY SEND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE FOR COMPLIANCE.

IF WE ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE, OUT OF ANYTHING, EVEN A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE ADVERTISEMENTS OR IN NOTICES THAT WE DISCUSS AT THOSE MEETINGS, THEY COULD HOLD US OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS AGAIN, AND THEY WILL HOLD ANY TYPE OF REVENUE FROM US IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY I USUALLY LIKE TO PUT THOSE UP THERE.

THEN ALSO WITHIN A 30 DAYS OF THE ADOPTION I LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TRY TO GET THE OFFICIAL BUDGET DOCUMENT THAT WINS THE AWARD, DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS. THAT IS USUALLY ONE OF MY KPI MEASUREMENTS THAT I LIKE TO HAVE.

DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT DONE UNTIL DECEMBER, BUT I LIKE TO HAVE IT DONE EARLY, SO THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF HAVE SOME BETTER PLANNING TIME IN THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. AND THAT IS WHEN ALSO OUR COMPLIANCE PACKAGE IS DUE TO THE STATE.

SO THERE'S A LOT THAT HAPPENS. AS FAR AS THE ENTIRE PROCESS.

THE WE OFFICIALLY GO THROUGH EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST.

SO JULY 1ST IS WHEN THE OFFICIAL TIMELINE STARTS TICKING.

AND WE HAVE TO GET ALL OF THIS DONE BETWEEN JULY 1ST AND THE THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

SO THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. REALLY? SO THE GOAL FOR TONIGHT IS, OF COURSE, IT IS OPEN TO DISCUSSION.

BUT REALLY WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AS A TEAM IS GUIDANCE ON WE HAVE A LOT OF PRIORITY ONES IS WHAT SHOULD OUR FOCUS BE ON? WHAT SHOULD OUR CITY MANAGERS BE FOCUSED ON? WE'VE KIND OF GONE THROUGH A TRANSITION IN-HOUSE WITH OUR TEAM WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS, BUT ALSO UNDERSTAND WE'VE GONE THROUGH A TRANSITION OF POSSIBLY THREE CITY MANAGERS REALLY SINCE NOVEMBER.

SO WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO ADAPT AS WE CAN IN ORDER TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO THE MONTH OF JULY AND STILL BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU A A PRETTY GREAT PRODUCT THAT WE CAN WE CAN BE PROUD OF AND BE VALUABLE.

SO IT'S OPEN TO DISCUSSIONS. WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND IF MR. MORTON HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR US YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

WELCOME TO ASK. AND AGAIN IN JULY IS WHEN YOU'LL SEE TRUE NUMBERS.

AND WE'LL GIVE YOU OPTIONS FOR RATES. I'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THE 3% CAP RATE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

IT'S JUST THAT INFORMATION AT THIS TIME IS NOT FULLY AVAILABLE YET, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO THAT BEFORE IT'S OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED FROM FROM THE COUNTY. SO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL TURN IT.

SO I'LL START OFF BY THANKING THANKING YOU AND THE REST OF THE TEAM FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING WORK, OUTSTANDING JOB, THE DEDICATION THAT YOU, YOU SHOWED IN, IN GETTING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER AND THEN COMMUNICATING WITH OUR NEW CITY MANAGER. AND I KNOW WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS, SO I'LL START THERE, BUT I WANT TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT.

AND MAYBE MR. MORTON I JUST WANT TO GIVE AN OVERALL ASK A FEW QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS THAT I DIDN'T SEE IN THE BUDGET. AND I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THOSE THINGS.

WHEN IT COMES TO PARKS SPECIFICALLY PARKS, NOT NOT FACILITIES, I'VE.

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AND SO WHAT I REQUESTED IS, SINCE THE CITY OF PALM BAY DOESN'T HAVE RENTAL SPACES, SOUND BAFFLES FOR THE TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER, AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT ANYWHERE IN THE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO LEGISLATIVE, I KNOW THAT YEARS AGO WE APPROVED CHAIRS FOR OUR RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE COMPLAINED TIME AND TIME AGAIN. THEIR CUSHIONS HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IN PLACE FOR DECADES.

AND WE I KNOW WE ORDERED NEW CHAIRS AT ONE POINT, BUT LEGISLATIVE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT GETTING THOSE CHAIRS SOMEHOW TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE I KNOW WE NEED THOSE.

THEN I WANTED TO JUST THROW THIS FOR FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.

WE'VE GOTTEN MANY REPORTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR REGARDING OUR VSO POSITION AND HOW BACKED UP HE IS, BUT THE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT ARE COMING IN, I WANT COUNCIL TO START THINKING ABOUT ADDING TO THAT VSO POSITION AND GIVE THAT DIRECTION WHEN IT COMES TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN THAT IT'S FOUR LANING MALABAR ROAD AND HERITAGE IS STILL A TOP PRIORITY IN MY EYES. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO THROW SOMETHING OUT THERE.

GENTLEMEN WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A LOT OF WATER OUT WHEN IT RAINS THROUGHOUT THIS PAST YEAR. AND WE'RE WE'RE ACTUALLY IN IN HURRICANE SEASON RIGHT NOW.

COMING UP JUNE 1ST. SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL CONSIDER AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE PUBLIC WORKS, HAVE A FLEET IN THE FUTURE, IF NOT NOW. MAYBE GETTING 2 TO 3 AIRBOATS THIS SESSION.

BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND AND OUR CANALS.

THERE'S A LOT OF CANALS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. SO I'LL START WITH THAT.

I KNOW THE COUNCILMAN HAMMER WAS OR COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN WAS THE FIRST TO TO LOG IN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

NO, SIR. THEY WANT GUIDANCE AND QUESTIONS, AND THEN I'LL TAKE.

OKAY. I WAS JUST GOING BY THE SHEET, SO I DON'T.

I SAID ASK ANYONE FROM THE AUDIENCE. YEAH. BECAUSE MY QUESTION IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO WHAT WE JUST LISTENED TO.

START WITH YOU. AND THEN WE'LL GO WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS. GO AHEAD. MINE'S JUST KIND OF SIMPLE RIGHT NOW ON THE ON THE IMPORTANT DATES AND THE PROCESS THAT'S, IT'S COMING UP, SO I NOTICED. I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO DO PUBLICATIONS.

I'M. I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THAT. YEAH, THAT SLIDE RIGHT THERE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HAVING TO POST THINGS, PARTICULARLY IN THE NEWS.

AND SO WE HAVE RIGHT HERE FLORIDA TODAY, DOES IT ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO BE FLORIDA TODAY STATUTORILY OR CAN IT BE A DIFFERENT NEWSPAPER.

AND IF SO, HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FLORIDA TODAY.

SO IT IT HAS TO BE IN ANY PRINTED CIRCULATION.

THE FLORIDA TODAY IS USUALLY THE ONES THAT OUR LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT USES FOR ALL THE PUBLICATIONS.

SO THE FLORIDA TODAY IS THE ONE THAT WE'VE HISTORICALLY GONE WITH.

OKAY. AND SO I WOULD JUST ASK IF WE WOULD CONSIDER POSSIBLY USING SPACE COAST DAILY.

AND THE REASON FLORIDA TODAY, THEY PUT A PAYWALL ON THERE ON A LOT OF THEIR ARTICLES, NOT ALL OF THEM.

AND MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE A PAYWALL ON THE ONE THAT THEY SHARE FOR US.

BUT IF PEOPLE ARE USED TO FLORIDA TODAY IS JUST GOING TO HAVE A PAYWALL, THEN I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM FLORIDA TODAY.

THERE'S A REASON THEY HAVE TO PUT A PAYWALL ON BECAUSE HONESTLY, THAT PEOPLE AREN'T READING THEIR NEWS. SO I WOULD CONSIDER THAT WE LOOK INTO SPACE COAST DAILY. THEY'RE THEY'RE THE LEAST POLITICAL AS WELL.

AND THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB IN THE COMMUNITY AND COVERING THE COMMUNITY. AND IF WE HAVE TO PUT ANY TAX DOLLARS TOWARDS THIS STATUTORILY, I'D RATHER SUPPORT A MORE HONEST NEWSPAPER. SO I'LL I'LL DEFER THAT TO THE ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. MADAM ATTORNEY, SIR, I'VE NEVER EVALUATED WHERE THE SPACE COAST DAILY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS.

I'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

SO WE'LL CONSIDER THAT. ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING WHAT WE JUST COVERED? COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND.

I HAVE STATISTICAL QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO GET THOSE IN EMAIL BEFORE JULY MEETING, SO I'LL HAVE A BETTER.

I DID HAVE THE MEETING WITH WITH OUR, OUR TEAM.

AND I THINK I'M, I THINK A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE HAD TODAY GOT ANSWERED IN THAT MEETING.

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OKAY, I'M TRACKING THAT, SIR. ANYTHING WITH OUR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY.

YOUR. I WANT TO SEE ROADS AND PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THAT'S BASICALLY IT.

COPY THAT. SIR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YES, MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE, SO I APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH. THE FIRST THING ALREADY JUST HAVE TO GIVE KUDOS TO MR. MORTON, SIR. YOU KNOW, I GOTTA PRAISE YOU PUBLICLY AS WELL.

VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE MEETING I HAD WITH YOU, SIR. VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEM.

DEPTH, KNOWLEDGE AND WHAT YOU WERE ABLE TO FIND WITHIN THE FIRST 27, 28 DAYS OF BEING WITH THE CITY.

SO WITH THAT ONE THING ME AND MR. MORTON SPOKE ABOUT WITH THE GO ROAD BONDS PROGRAM, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT LOOK INTO.

IT'S LIQUIDATED DAMAGES REGARDING ROADS THAT WERE PAVED WITHIN A CERTAIN YEAR SPAN.

WHEN, YOU KNOW THERE'S A CRACK IN THE ROAD, GRASS IS GROWING OUT THE ROAD.

JUPITER. JUPITER. JUPITER. SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE WITH THESE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES.

WE'RE PURSUING THAT. I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT IT IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS.

ASIDE FROM THAT, I HAVE A FEW. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

WITHIN THE PAST FISCAL YEAR 2025, HOW MANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS DID WE HAVE? ANGELICA. ESTIMATE JUST YOU COULD. OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, MA'AM.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FISCAL YEAR 25? YES, MA'AM.

YEAR 24. SO IN FISCAL YEAR 25, WE'VE DONE TWO ALREADY.

SO YOU'VE SEEN TWO COME AND YOU WILL SEE A THIRD ONE COME IN JULY.

THE THIRD ONE IS SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN MR. MORGAN'S DIRECTION CAME TO NO LONGER DO THEM.

SO THE FIRST TWO, THE AVERAGE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF REQUESTS IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 35 TO 40 ITEMS PER BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT I BRING TO YOU FOR THAT FOR THAT PARTICULAR QUARTER.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WOULD YOU I KNOW GOING BACK TO 24, WOULD YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW THE NUMBER FOR 24? IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY IT'S ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT.

SO IT DEPENDS ON THE TIME TO SOMETIMES AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THERE IS SOME CLEANUP THAT HAS TO HAVE FROM THE FINANCIAL SIDE OF THINGS.

BUT USUALLY THAT IS THE AMOUNTS THAT I HAVE SEEN ON, YOU KNOW, A REGULAR BASIS IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 30S.

SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS, SOMETIMES IT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE. ALL RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE A FEW QUESTIONS.

SO THANK YOU. REGARDING TRAVEL IN THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH IT WAS WITH ME AND MAYOR IN THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

WE APPROVED THE FULL TRAVEL BUDGET AT ONE TIME.

SINCE THAT BUDGET WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR, HOW MANY BUDGET AMENDMENT APPROVALS TOWARDS TRAVEL WERE PUT IN PLACE OR WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL? SO THERE HAVE NOT BEEN MANY THAT HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT IMPACT, SO THERE MAY HAVE SOME COME TO COUNCIL THAT DEVIATE FROM WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, BUT THE BUDGET IS STILL THERE.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE.

AND SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT LARRY CAN ANSWER SINCE HE DOES THE QUARTERLY.

OKAY. THAT WORKS. YEAH. BUT FROM A BUDGETARY IMPACT, IT HAS ACTUALLY NOT BEEN BEEN THAT MANY.

IT'S JUST THEY DO I THINK ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS STILL IS, IS THAT IF IT DEVIATES FROM YOUR APPROVAL LIST, THEN IT WOULD NEED TO COME TO YOU FOR APPROVAL.

SO THAT WILL BE THE OFFICIAL MEMO. OKAY, BUT IF THE BUDGET IS AVAILABLE, THEN FROM FROM OUR END, WE WE DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT. SO PERFECT.

LOANS. I KNOW WE'RE COMING TO THE TO THE CONCLUSION OF A FEW LOANS THAT WE'RE ALMOST DONE.

WELL, DEBT, NOT LOANS. DEBT SERVICES. WE'RE COMING TOWARDS THE CONCLUSION EITHER 2026 OR 20 27 OR 28.

IS THAT I THINK IT'S NOW IT'S CLOSE. RIGHT? YEAH.

I THINK THERE'S THREE DEBTS THAT I BELIEVE ARE GETTING READY TO TO SUNSET.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A DO I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU AND SEND IT TO ALL FIVE OF YOU.

ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'LL HAVE A SLIDE OF THAT IN DETAIL IN THE JULY WORKSHOP AS WELL.

SO WE ALWAYS PUBLISH THAT. DO YOU ALL HAVE IN YOUR MIND? DO YOU HAVE A VISION OF WHERE THAT FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT, WOULD THAT GO TOWARDS THE OTHER.

NOT SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NO WORRIES. I'M JUST THINKING LONG RANGE.

OTHER THAN THAT, BUDGET AMENDMENTS, TRAVEL DEBT.

I'VE SPOKEN TO MR. WOJCIECHOWSKI SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS SOMETHING.

I KNOW IT'S TOO LATE TO DO IT NOW, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WE WE SPEAK ON FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND EFFICIENCY.

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OH. YES, I TWO YEARS FROM NOW. OKAY. AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY.

SO I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

WE ARE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH AN ERP TRANSITION, AND IT IS MY GOAL TO HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE NEW SYSTEM THIS UPCOMING YEAR. I MY GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE THEM START MANUALLY AND THEN GO INTO THE ERP.

IT WILL BE A LARGE LEARNING CURVE FOR DEPARTMENTS.

SO WHILE YES, I DO UNDERSTAND THE ZERO BASE. AND THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP DEPARTMENTS.

BUT FROM I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

FROM A PROFESSIONAL STANDPOINT, I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.

IT WILL BE A LARGE LEARNING CURVE FOR SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY SOME LIKE UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS THAT MANAGE MULTIPLE FUNDS.

FOR THEM JUST TO SIT IN FRONT OF A COMPUTER AND NOT HAVE EXCEL AND PAPER ANYMORE, AND IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC.

OKAY. SO WITH THAT, KNOWING THAT IT'S A LONG A LARGE LEARNING CURVE, COULD WE POSSIBLY START, YOU KNOW, LOOKING DOWN RANGE QUARTERLY ZERO BASED BUDGETING EDUCATION FOR THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

SO THEY GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 2027, THEY ALREADY ARE.

THEY'RE FULL SPEED AHEAD. NO. YEAH OKAY. YEAH.

SO WE CAN WE CAN WORK ON A PLAN. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO START BRINGING THINGS TO YOU EARLIER SO THAT WE CAN GET SOME SOME GUIDANCE FROM YOU ON WHAT WHAT WE'D LIKE TO GO TO. BUT I BUT AGAIN, NEXT YEAR WILL WILL BE A VERY DIFFERENT PROCESS FOR MANY DEPARTMENTS.

SO. AWESOME. AND THEN ONE OF THE TOP PRIORITIES FOR ME, EVERYTHING THAT COUNCIL MENTIONED INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY. BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE SAKE, IF IT DOESN'T PASS WITH THE CHARTER, I WOULD LIKE MAYOR FOR OPERATIONAL AUDIT TO BE ON THE BUDGET FOR THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

A LOT OF ASK AND A LOT OF FUNDING IS BEING ASKED FOR, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS SPENT AND MAKING SURE IT'S GETTING THE BEST USE AND THE BIGGEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LOVE TO SEE COMING FORTH WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING IN JULY.

ASIDE FROM THAT THIS MAY BE MORE SO FOR STAFF MEMBERS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT PUBLIC SAFETY.

I'M LOOKING AT I MEAN, I'M LOOKING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I'M LOOKING AT THE VACANCIES AND IN UTILITIES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND I REMEMBER PUBLIC WORKS EITHER A YEAR OR TWO AGO.

MAYOR, WE APPROVED FOR A LOT OF POSITIONS, BUT NOW THESE POSITIONS ARE VACANT.

SO WILL WE HAVE BEEN BETTER OFF TO SUBCONTRACT FOR SOME OF THESE POSITIONS? SAME WITH UTILITIES. THAT'S THAT'S JUST A QUESTION I'M ASKING OUT LOUD.

I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I'M JUST THE VACANCIES ARE THERE, BUT THE NEEDS HAVEN'T BEEN MET.

SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE QUESTION. SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT OR SOMEBODY ELSE.

I WOULD DEFER THAT TO THOSE PARTICULAR DEPARTMENTS.

SO AND DO REMEMBER THAT SOME OF THE FOR UNDER PUBLIC WORKS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU DO HAVE SOME POSITIONS THAT ARE BOTH GENERAL FUND AND STORMWATER.

AND I KNOW THAT THE STORMWATER ONES THAT THAT WAS A MID-YEAR REQUEST.

I THINK THAT WE ADDED A LOT OF THOSE. SO I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THOSE DEPARTMENTS ON WHAT THE RECRUITING LOOKS LIKE, WHAT THEIR FOCUS IS LIKE. WE STRICTLY JUST PRESENT THE NUMBERS TO YOU.

OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO JUMP OVER. I'M GOING TO HARASS THE CITY ATTORNEY.

NOW FOR THE THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY POSITION THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR 35 MONTHS.

WILL WE BE BETTER OFF TO JUST PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS OUTSIDE COUNSEL OR SINCE WE GO AHEAD NOW, RIGHT NOW, WHICH INCLUDES THE FACT THAT I AM A LITIGATOR, I LITIGATE MORE CASES.

I HAVE MY STAFF DOING MORE SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, STRETCH AS FAR AS WE CAN AND BE MORE EFFICIENT.

BUT IF COUNSEL INSISTS THAT I JUST GO OUT AND HIRE SOMEBODY, I WILL DO.

BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS MAKE THE BEST USE OF MY STAFF, ALL OF WHICH HAVE LITIGATION EXPERIENCE.

AND MYSELF AND MICHAEL BOTH HAVE TRANSACTIONAL EXPERIENCE.

I DO HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. I USE OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHEN NEED BE, BUT AS I HAVE THE I WAS BROUGHT HERE TO LITIGATE CASES AND BRING DOWN THE COST THAT OUR OFFICE WAS USING AS FAR AS OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND EXPENDITURES.

AND THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN DOING THE ENTIRE TIME. BUT IF YOU'D RATHER ME JUST TO SPEND MONEY, I CAN SLEEP.

NO NO NO NO. I WILL DO IT. NO NO NO NO. I WAS JUST.

I SEE THE VACANCY. SO IF MY. MY POINT IS, IF WE DON'T EVEN NEED THE POSITION.

YEAH, WE CAN USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE OR USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID TRY TO DO, BUT I WILL NOT JUST HIRE ANYBODY TO HAVE A WARM BODY, IS LABOR, AND EMPLOYMENT IS MY BIGGEST USE OF OUTSIDE COUNSEL BUDGET.

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I DID NOT FIND GOOD CANDIDATES, EXCEPT FOR ONE WHO WAS IN TAMPA AND WASN'T WILLING TO MOVE.

I AM NOT BIG ON TELEWORKING. I LIKE MY PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY BE AT THE OFFICE AND BE ABLE TO INTERACT WITH THE EMPLOYEES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE.

AND SO WHEN I WAS NOT GETTING GOOD CANDIDATES, I LEFT IT ALONE.

BUT LIKE, I TOOK A LITTLE WHILE BEFORE I GOT MICHAEL, A LOT OF MY DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE EITHER BEEN CITY ATTORNEYS OR LEAVE ME AND GO OFF TO THE CITY ATTORNEY OR WERE THE ONE THAT BECAME A JUDGE.

SO I HIRE QUALIFIED PEOPLE. SO WHEN THE MARKET DIDN'T LOOK GOOD, I DON'T WANT JUST A WARM BODY THAT I'M GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR.

I HELD, YOU KNOW, I CAME TO YOU ALL, ASK YOU ALL TO PAY THE PEOPLE THAT I DID HAVE MORE MONEY AND ASK THEM TO DO MORE.

SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT MAY BE NEEDED. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN HOLD OFF, I HAVE BEEN HOLDING OFF.

BUT IF IT IS THE USE IT OR LOSE IT, I I'LL TRY TO FIND SOMEBODY.

BUT IF YOU ARE MORE PATIENT WITH ME, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN.

AND AS LONG AS I SEE THAT WE CAN DO WHAT WE CAN AND WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DOING IT WELL, I'LL HOLD OFF.

BUT NO, I DO NOT WANT TO LOSE MY POSITION. NO, NO, YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD. I'M.

I'M PATIENT. I WAS JUST INQUIRING. AND IT'S THE SAME WITH I'LL ASK UTILITIES AND PUBLIC WORKS THE SAME QUESTION IN A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THE MAIN ONE THAT BROUGHT THE BIGGEST CONCERN TO ME, MAYOR WAS POLICE.

I REMEMBER A YEAR OR SO AGO WE HAD 19 VACANT SEATS FOR POLICE OFFICERS AND NOW WE HAVE 28.

SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF DEPUTY CHIEF CAN COME UP AND.

WELL, MR. MORTON, I DIDN'T KNOW. YEAH. CAN WE IF IF DEPUTY CHIEF CAN DC.

SURE, ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

COUNCIL. SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP. AND I WANT TO I KNOW IT WAS PRESENTED IN OUR PRESENTATION THAT WE HAD 30 SWORN VACANCIES.

AND I WANT TO PUT IT INTO A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE ON HOW WE LOOK AT THAT INTERNALLY.

SO ON THE LIST. AND BEAR WITH ME HERE, BECAUSE I WASN'T PROVIDED A I DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT UP.

BUT YOU HAD 28 POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS AND TWO POLICE SERGEANT POSITIONS, THE TWO POLICE SERGEANT POSITIONS.

WE'VE PROMOTED THOSE TWO INDIVIDUALS. THEY JUST WON'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL AUGUST.

SO OBVIOUSLY, THAT WILL BRING UP TWO ADDITIONAL OFFICER POSITIONS, RIGHT? SO THAT WILL BE WHERE THE TOTAL IS 30. INTERNALLY WE HAVE CONDITIONAL OFFERS.

SO WE DO INTERVIEWS. WE DO THE FRONTLINE TESTING AND MULTIPLE POSITIONS.

OF THAT 30 HAVE BEEN GIVEN CONDITIONAL OFFERS.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE 16 POSITIONS THAT WE'RE RECRUITING FOR RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. IN OCTOBER, THE CURRENT COUNCIL AT THE TIME GAVE US 15 POSITIONS.

SO IN PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU TOOK AWAY THOSE 15 THAT WE WERE GIVEN IN OCTOBER, WE WOULD ONLY BE RECRUITING ONE POSITION.

FOR ME, THAT'S GOOD NEWS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY REALLY RECRUITING THAT ONE POSITION. BUT WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET 15 ADDITIONAL SPOTS.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT POSITION PARTICULARLY HAS BEEN VACANT FOR 20 MONTHS.

IT'S HARD TO TELL ON OUR LEVEL, BUT WE'RE WE'RE RECRUITING FOR 16 POLICE OFFICER POSITIONS OUT OF THE 30 THAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE BECAUSE 30 ARE IN THE ACADEMY OR THEY HAVE CONDITIONAL OFFERS OF EMPLOYMENT. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT ALL 16 WILL OR 14 RATHER WILL BE HERE.

THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAVE CONDITIONALS FOR THEM.

WE HAVE JOB OFFERS OUT FOR THOSE FOLKS. SO I'M CONFIDENT THAT THOSE ADMIN NON-SWORN PROFESSIONAL STAFF POSITIONS, THEY'LL BE FILLED MOMENTARILY. WE'RE JUST WAITING ON SOME BACKGROUNDS AND SUCH.

OBVIOUSLY THE BIG EFFORT IS SWORN POSITIONS, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'RE ACTUALLY RECRUITING FOR 16 OFFICER POSITIONS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY, FOLLOW UP QUESTION. WHERE IS IT AT? OF OF THE VACANCIES, HOW MANY WERE LIKE RETIREMENTS OR PEOPLE THAT JUST LEFT AT OTHER DEPARTMENTS? AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT HOW MANY THAT DID LEAVE? DID THEY RECEIVE THE $10,000 BONUS THAT WE HAD PROVIDED? BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A WINDOW LIKE, YOU HAVE TO STAY WITH THE DEPARTMENT WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS OR. YES, SIR. YOU KNOW. YEAH, THAT'S A LOADED QUESTION. SO YEAH, I KNOW SO I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO LEFT LAST, LAST YEAR OR LAST FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE HAD A FEW FOLKS LEAVE FOR OTHER AGENCIES.

ONE OF THEM IS ACTUALLY COMING BACK. HE STARTS WITH US IN TWO WEEKS.

AND THEN WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL RETIREMENTS IN THE LAST YEAR.

THE ONLY WE ONLY HAVE ONE PLANNED RETIREMENT FOR THIS COMING YEAR.

BUT THAT JUST VARIES BECAUSE OF THE TIME OF SERVICE THEY HAVE OR OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

BUT THE OTHER QUESTION, WHAT WAS THE THIRD PART OF THAT QUESTION? THE THE SIGN UP BONUS. YES, I KNOW WE HAD THAT'S A HUGE WORK IN PROGRESS.

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WHEN THEY SIGN A CONTRACT, THAT CONTRACT TELLS THEM THAT IF THEY LEAVE AFTER RECEIVING A SIGN UP BONUS A LOT OF THEIR LAST PAYCHECK IS RETAINED WITH THE CITY TO PAY FOR THAT SIGN ON BONUS.

ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT THAT PAYCHECK DIDN'T PICK UP ON OR COVER? THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO PAY. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT PAID THAT.

SOME OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE GONE ON TO WORK FOR OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS. SO THESE POLICE OFFICERS ARE WORKING FOR OTHER POLICE AGENCIES WHO OWE US MONEY.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING QUITE A BIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO HOPEFULLY SEND THEM SOME LETTERS AND LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WANT OUR MONEY BACK.

OKAY. THAT IS AN ACTIVE WORK IN PROGRESS. AND THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I WAS THINKING I DIDN'T WANT TO ASSUME.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK YOU ON THAT. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S THE SAME CASE WITH FIRE AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT OKAY. I THINK I'M GOOD. YEAH.

YEAH, I'M. I'M GOOD WITH EVERYTHING, MAYOR. THANK.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF. THE MAIN MY MAIN EMPHASIS, MAYOR, IS JUST THE OPERATIONAL AUDIT.

I WANT THAT ON THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT, SIR.

YOU KNOW MY SENTIMENTS ABOUT THAT FOR YEARS. SIX YEARS LATER.

FOR YEARS. WELL, THANKS FOR JOINING THE CLUB, SIR.

DEPUTY MAYOR, SIR. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK FOR ME, I WOULD I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO HEAR JUST FROM, FROM EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD OR EVERY DIRECTOR ABOUT YOUR PRIORITY ONES.

LIKE WHY WHY THEY ARE PRIORITY ONES. AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOUR OTHER REQUESTS ARE, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU.

DO WE HAVE. YEAH. HERE WE GO. I DON'T KNOW. SO WE DO HAVE THEM IN TWO SEPARATE SETS. YOU HAVE YOUR PRIORITY ONES BY DEPARTMENTS AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO DO YOU WANT TO START WITH PRIORITY ONES ARE REALLY THE ITEMS THAT I WAS ENCOURAGED TO FOCUS ON.

JUST BECAUSE THAT THOSE ARE MUST DO ITEMS THAT REALLY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIST OF ITEMS. THOSE ARE REALLY WHAT WHAT SHOULD COME FIRST.

SO DO YOU WANT TO RUN THROUGH IT IN THAT ORDER? YEAH. I MEAN, WE CAN RUN IT THROUGH IN THAT ORDER. IT'S FINE. OKAY. YEAH. SO THE FIRST ONE UP WOULD BE FIRE.

COUNCILMAN MEMBERS. AND I GOT YOU. GOOD EVENING.

DO YOU WANT ME TO START AT THE TOP AND JUST WORK THROUGH EACH OF THOSE? YEAH. OKAY. UNIFORM, BUNKER GEAR. THE. IF WE'RE IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE CONTRACT, THERE'S OBLIGATIONS OF PUTTING THE AMOUNT, THE CORRECT AMOUNT OF UNIFORMS ON FIREFIGHTERS.

IN THE PAST, THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN ONE, SOMETIMES TWO UNIFORMS TO WEAR THROUGHOUT.

THIS IS BRINGING IT UP TO I BELIEVE IT'S FIVE UNIFORMS PER PERSON.

THAT ALSO COVERS. AND I'LL JUMP DOWN TO THE OTHER IF ONE THERE.

AND THAT'S EQUIPMENT THAT GOES ON THE FIREFIGHTER FLASHLIGHTS, SAFETY STRAPS TO GET OUT OF A BAD SITUATION, TO HELP SELF EXTRICATE OR TAKE OUT A FIREFIGHTER THAT MIGHT BE IN A BAD POSITION NEEDS RESCUE.

THEN YOU HAVE THE LIFEPAK 35. THAT WAS ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO.

YOU APPROVED THE CONTRACT TO GIVE US LIFEPAK 35, SO THAT ALL OF OUR OTHER ALS APPARATUS HAVE THE MOST ADVANCED LIFE PACKS ON THERE. THOSE ARE IN PROCESS NOW BEING ORDERED.

THEY SHOULD BE RECEIVED, I'M GOING TO SAY PROBABLY IN ABOUT SIX WEEKS.

PARAMEDIC SPONSORSHIP. THIS IS ONE THAT, AS YOU SEE, GOES DOWN AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT GOING DOWN THAT IS COMING UP.

THE YEAR IS GOING TO BE FOR APPROXIMATELY 25 OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS, AND THAT'S A MIX OF CURRENT VETERAN FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE NOT PARAMEDICS THAT CHOOSE TO BE PARAMEDICS. NOW WE'RE PUTTING THEM THROUGH, AND IT'S ALSO THE HIRING OBLIGATION OF THE LAST COUPLE CLASSES THAT SAY WITHIN THREE YEARS YOU HAVE TO BECOME A PARAMEDIC. MOST OF THIS UPCOMING CLASS IS CURRENT VETERAN FIREFIGHTERS THAT HAVE CHOSEN TO GO AHEAD AND BECOME A PARAMEDIC. IT GOES DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE ONE MORE YEAR.

THE THE 27 YEAR. WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO ASK FOR A VERY SIMILAR ASK FOR ANOTHER 25.

AND AT THAT POINT THERE, YOU SHOULD SEE A PRETTY GOOD DROP IN THOSE NUMBERS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING THE NEW HIRING, NEW HIRE FIREFIGHTERS COMING ON. AND THAT'S ALREADY IN PART OF THEIR PACKAGE AS TO WHAT THE NEW HIRE COST IS.

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RIGHT NOW, WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO TRY TO GET IT TO WHERE WE HAVE PARAMEDIC NUMBERS IN ABOUT OUT 70%, 75% OF OUR WORKFORCE BEING PARAMEDICS. JUST A QUESTION.

SO ABOUT THAT TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S QUESTION ABOUT POLICE.

IF WE'RE SPONSORING EMPLOYEES, WHAT'S OUR RATE OF RETURN AND OUR PROTECTION? IF THEY IF THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE, THEY HAVE A CONTRACT.

WHEN THEY SIGN THAT SAYS THAT THEY DO PAY IT BACK.

AND I BELIEVE MOST OF IT SO FAR HAS BEEN COLLECTED THROUGH THEIR LAST PAYCHECK.

IF IF THEY'VE GONE INTO PARAMEDIC PROGRAM, I WANT TO SAY YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD A DOZEN THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS CURRENT YEAR AND WHAT'S COMING UP, AND MOST OF THEM ARE STILL HERE.

IF THERE'S BEEN A SEPARATION, IT'S BEEN THROUGH VOLUNTARY SEPARATION.

AND I BELIEVE THERE'S 1 OR 2 OF THEM THAT WE FELT THAT THEIR SEPARATION WAS NECESSARY.

AND THOSE WERE EMTS, EXCEPT FOR, I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO, AND THEY CAME ON BOARD AS PARAMEDICS SO THAT THERE'S CONTRACTS THERE IN PLACE.

AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING HAS BEEN A PRETTY GOOD RATE OF GETTING IT TAKEN, GETTING IT COLLECTED IN THE LAST PAYCHECKS.

THE RADIO MAINTENANCE CONTRACT, THAT'S JUST BASICALLY ALL OF OUR RADIOS, OUR PORTABLE RADIOS, OUR VEHICLE RADIOS. THAT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO KEEP THEM WORKING.

WE JUST CAME OUT OF A YEAR THAT MOST OF THE PORT, ACTUALLY ALL THE PORTABLES WERE WITHIN THEIR FIRST YEAR.

SO WE HAD NO MAINTENANCE FOR PORTABLE RADIOS.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S LOWER NUMBER THAN WHAT WE'RE USED TO.

AS WE START GOING IN AND IT STARTS AGING, THAT'S WHEN IT GETS UP INTO THE 30S.

THE BACKBONE BILLING INCREASE. THE BACKBONE IS THE CAD SYSTEM, THE RADIO SYSTEM THROUGH BREVARD COUNTY.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. AND THAT'S JUST OUR PORTION OF BEING ON THE SYSTEM AND UTILIZING THE RADIO SYSTEM.

THAT'S A COUNTY WIDE REGIONAL RADIO SYSTEM UNDER THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

ANNUAL BLS AND ACLS. TO BE AN EMT OR PARAMEDIC, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING AND KEEP THOSE CERTIFICATIONS CURRENT.

THAT'S ALL THIS IS HERE AND THAT THERE IS JUST COVER.

AND IT'S A PRETTY CONSISTENT NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S.

I WANT TO SAY SOME OF THEM ARE LIKE 40 BUCKS A YEAR.

SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE 3050. IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL, BUT IT'S A REQUIREMENT UNDER STATE LAW OR UNDER OUR STATE LICENSING.

THE EVALUATION PLUS IS A PROGRAM THAT HELPS US IN THE TRAINING CENTER AND OUR TRAINING DIVISION, I SHOULD SAY PUT TOGETHER PROGRAMS AND EVALUATIONS TO WHERE WE CAN CHECK AND MAKE SURE OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE ON PAR WITH WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

THE REHAB WE'VE BEEN GOING, I THINK IT WAS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS ABOUT 2000.

IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN 2200 WITH THE BRUSH FIRES AND DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.

WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT PRETTY RAPIDLY, SO WE'VE JUST ASKED TO BRING IT UP TO 5000 FOR THIS YEAR.

AGAIN, THE AIR BOTTLE TESTING WE'VE HAD YEAR BEFORE LAST, WE BROUGHT IN A LARGE INFLUX.

AND WE IN THIS PAST YEAR, WE ADDED TO THAT OF NEW SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS THAT WE WHERE THE THE BREATHING AIR, NOT OXYGEN THAT WE GO WHERE WHEN WE GO INTO THE BUILDING, THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START NEEDING THEIR TESTING BECAUSE AS THEY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN YEARS ON THAT, FIVE YEARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THEN THERE'S THE ANNUAL VISUAL TESTING THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE.

SO NOW THAT THOSE NEW BOTTLES ARE STARTING TO AGE A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE.

OUR AIR SYSTEM TESTING THAT. BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS THERE IS, IS ALSO THOSE SAME BOTTLES THAT ARE FILLED.

WE HAVE TO ANNUALLY TEST THE AIR TO MAKE SURE THAT THE AIR WE'RE PUTTING IN THOSE BOTTLES IS SAFE FOR CONSUMPTION OF THE FIREFIGHTER.

OKAY. AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL OURS. ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE? I DON'T. CAN YOU JUST ROLL INTO THE OTHER ONE? YEAH.

OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. SO JUST SOME QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN ANSWER NOW OR AS YOU GO.

BUT THE LEAD TIME ON ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT? YES.

WHEN DO YOU EXPECT TO RECEIVE IT? WHEN WHEN WILL IT BE DEPLOYED INTO USE.

WHERE ARE THEIR HOMES FOR THE FOR THIS EQUIPMENT.

SO OKAY, SO FIRST OFF THE HEAVY RESCUE. CURRENTLY WE HAVE SEVERAL TRAILERS THAT ARE TOWED AROUND THE CITY WHEN WE HAVE A DEPLOYMENT FOR OUR TECHNICAL RESCUE OR OUR SPECIAL OPERATIONS TEAM, IF WE GO OUT ON A CERTAIN TYPE OF CALL, WE TRY TO TAKE EVERYTHING WE NEED.

BUT WHAT THIS FIRST TRUCK IS, IS IT JUST PUTS ALL THAT IN ONE TRUCK.

SO NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE IN THE CITY, WE HAVE ONE VEHICLE RESPONDING TO THAT CALL.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO THE STATION, PICK UP THE TRAILER, COME BACK AND FIND OUT THAT WILL THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS IN THE OTHER

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IT WILL HAVE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT IN IT. THAT'S ABOUT A TWO YEAR, TWO AND A HALF YEAR BUILD.

AND THAT WILL LAST US PROBABLY A GOOD 15 YEARS ONCE WE GET IT.

THOSE PARTICULAR TRUCKS YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THESE FIRE APPARATUS FROM WHERE IT SAYS QUINT TWO, ALL THE WAY UP TO THE HEAVY RESCUE. WHAT? THOSE ARE THE THE PAYMENT IS OUR OPTION.

WE CAN EITHER PAY UP FRONT, WE CAN PAY DURING THE PROCESS OF THE BUILD, OR WE CAN PAY UPON ARRIVAL WHEN THEY GET HERE INTO THE STATE, WHICH IS NORMALLY THOSE PARTICULAR VEHICLES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WOULD BE DOWN IN SOUTHWEST FLORIDA.

SO WE'D PAY FOR THEM AT THAT POINT. THAT'S WHEN THE ABSOLUTE FULL PAYMENT IS DUE AT THAT POINT.

SO HOW CAN WE SET THE BUDGET UP, YOU KNOW, TO ORDER THESE AND PAY FOR IT DURING THE BUILD INSTEAD OF STROKING A CHECK AT, YOU KNOW, FISCAL YEAR 26 AS FAR AS WHEN WE'RE GOING TO RECEIVE THEM.

I WOULD HOPE SO, BECAUSE THESE PARTICULAR TRUCKS, THE QUINCE, RIGHT NOW, WE USE ENGINES, MOST OF OUR TRUCKS, EXCEPT FOR LADDER SEVEN, THE TRUCK THAT WAS PURCHASED FOR THE NEW STATION SEVEN.

MOST OF OUR TRUCKS ARE ENGINES. THERE'S SOME DEFICIENCIES WITH THOSE.

BUT ON THE DELIVERY SIDE OF THAT, WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR PLUS YEARS TO GET THESE TRUCKS INTO THE CITY.

THE QUINCE. WE'RE LOOKING AT ANYWHERE FROM 23 TO 26 MONTHS TO BE DELIVERED AND PLACED IN SERVICE.

SO THERE'S A THERE'S A HALF, HALF THAT TIME TO GET THOSE INTO THE SYSTEM.

PLUS WITH HAVING THE THE QUINT COMPONENT IS THE LADDER YOU SEE ON LADDER SEVEN.

IT'S NOT A FULL 105 FOOT AERIAL LADDER LIKE YOU SEE ON TRUCK ONE.

SO THE COST OF THE VEHICLE IS GREATLY REDUCED, BUT IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THAT OF A ENGINE COMPANY.

BUT THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO GET INTO THESE NEW BUILDINGS, THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE GOING UP AROUND THE CITY AND NOT HAVE TO WAIT FOR TRUCK ONE, WHICH COMES FROM STATION ONE, TO GO TO ANY OTHER PART OF THE CITY THAT ALSO THOSE PARTICULAR TRUCKS, ONCE THEY GET IN THE CITY. THE NUMBER FIVE IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO US AS WE PLACE THEM IN SERVICE AROUND THE CITY AT THE PRE-DEPLOYED LOCATIONS.

THAT'LL BE THE LAST THING THAT WE NEED TO GET WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN ISO THREE.

THIS WILL GIVE US WHAT WE NEED TO BECOME AN ISO ONE.

THE BENEFIT OF THE ISO ONE IS NOT JUST THE SUPPRESSION CAPABILITIES FOR THE ACTUAL INCIDENTS THAT TAKE PLACE.

IT ALSO TAKES HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AND WEEK. LET ME GO BACK.

THE CITY OR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CANNOT GUARANTEE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY.

BUT THIS IS THE NORM. AND THE INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL TELL YOU IT'S THE NORM, BUT THEY WON'T QUOTE THE EXACT EITHER BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON PROPERTY TYPE.

SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, THINGS LIKE THAT NORMALLY SEE SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS IN REDUCTION IN THEIR FIRE INSURANCE COMMERCIAL OCCUPANCIES CAN SEE SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS PER YEAR REDUCTION IN THEIR FIRE INSURANCE. SO THAT HELPS US GET WHAT WE NEED TO DEPLOY TO DO OUR JOB.

THAT HELPS US GET IT HERE QUICKER. AND IT ALSO HELPS THE THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMERCIAL OCCUPANCIES GET A REDUCTION IN THEIR FIRE INSURANCE, HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE, BUSINESS INSURANCE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

PLUS, IT ALLOWS US TO GET SOME NEW UNITS INTO THE CITY.

RIGHT NOW, THE FIRST THREE UNITS, THE FIRST 25 YEARS, THE FOLLOWING 2 OR 3 YEARS, TRY TO STAY ON THE MIC.

I'M SORRY. THE FIRST ONE IS 25 YEARS OLD, TWO AND A HALF TIMES ITS EXPECTED LIFE.

THE FOLLOWING TWO ARE 20 YEARS OLD, TWICE THEIR EXPECTED LIFE.

AND WHERE YOU SEE 0.1 AND QUINT TWO WILL BE TAKEN AND REPLACED.

THOSE WILL GO INTO WHERE THE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO BE.

BY THE TIME THESE ARE DELIVERED, IT WILL BE 13 AND 14 YEARS OLD, WITH THE EXPECTED FRONT RUN LIFE OF AN ENGINE COMPANY BEING TEN YEARS, THOSE TWO PARTICULAR TRUCKS WOULD ALLOW US TO INCREASE OUR CURRENT RESERVE FLEET FROM 3 TO 5.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING SO LOW ON RESERVE FLEET IN THE CONDITION OF THE FLEET BEING AGED AS IT IS, HAS PUT US INTO A BAD SITUATION ON SEVERAL INCIDENTS WHERE WE EITHER HAD TRUCKS ON THE ROAD THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE ROAD, OR ONE INCIDENT WHERE WE HAD A STATION THAT DIDN'T HAVE AN ENGINE FOR A DAY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PUT IN THERE.

NOW WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH BREVARD COUNTY TO SET SOMETHING UP SO THAT IF WE NEED TO BORROW A TRUCK, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE A LAST RESORT.

THAT'S WHAT THOSE THAT THAT THAT FIRST GROUP OF ENGINES IN THE HEAVY IS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, THAT I JUST YEAH. JUST FOR CLARITY AGAIN GO BACK TO THE THE ORDERING THE PAYMENT AND THE DELIVERY.

RIGHT. SO YOU SAID THAT THOSE VEHICLES OR THOSE ENGINES CAN BE PAID FOR DURING THE BUILD PROCESS, LIKE WE WOULDN'T WE BUDGETED FOR IN FISCAL YEAR 26, BUT 26, BUT WE ACTUALLY WOULDN'T PAY FOR IT.

WE PAY A QUARTER OF IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WE'RE ALLOWED TO PAY UP UNTIL DELIVERY.

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AND THAT'S AN OPTION TOO. BUT THE LEASE PROGRAMS, THERE'S SOME RESTRICTIONS TO THOSE.

A LOT OF AGENCIES USE THOSE, BUT DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SET IT UP AT THE END OF THE LEASE, OR YOU HAVE TO BUY THEM OUTRIGHT AND YOU'RE REALLY BUYING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.

IF YOU DO THAT. SO THAT WOULD THE I THINK THAT'S APPROXIMATELY JUST OVER $11 MILLION OF OUR ASK RIGHT THERE.

THAT WOULD BE HOWEVER, WE COULD SET IT UP TO DO IT OR GO INTO A LEASE.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO LEASING, BUT IT'S NOT THE BEST PLAN BECAUSE IN THE END, RON, AT THE TEN YEAR MARK, IT PUTS THE CITY IN A POSITION WHERE YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT IF WE ARE NOT IN THE THE BEST OF FINANCIAL SITUATIONS, WOULD BE VERY HARD DECISION TO MAKE, AND THAT THAT DOES NOT THE ONLY THING THAT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ON THOSE NUMBERS.

AND ACTUALLY, LET ME LOOK HERE REAL QUICK JUST TO MAKE SURE THOSE NUMBERS ACTUALLY DO INCLUDE THE COST OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES ON THEM.

THAT WOULD NOT NEED TO BE PURCHASED UNTIL THE LAST YEAR BEFORE THEY'RE ARRIVE, BEFORE THEY ARRIVE.

AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE US EVERYTHING TO FULLY EQUIP THEM.

AND JUST IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, IN THE LAST FEW YEARS, HOW MUCH HAS THIS EQUIPMENT OR ENGINES GONE? GONE UP IN PRICE? UNBELIEVABLY. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, THE $1.5 MILLION, I THINK IT IS, OR $1.4 MILLION FOR THE QUINCE YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO BUY FOR ABOUT 7 OR $800,000, BUT IT'S LIKE ANYTHING ELSE.

AND WE'VE ORIGINALLY PUT IN THE REQUESTS FOR THESE APPARATUS ABOUT 15 MONTHS AGO, AND THE PRICE HAS PROBABLY GONE UP ABOUT 30 TO $40,000 PER VEHICLE IN THAT PERIOD. SO THEY DO GO UP.

WE'VE ASKED WHAT WE EXPECT THE NEXT COST INCREASE TO BE IN OCTOBER.

THEY DON'T HAVE THAT YET, BUT THEY ALSO FEEL AT THIS POINT THAT IT WON'T BE A LOT.

OKAY, THEN THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THEY PUT IT. SO I CAN'T DEFINE WHAT A LOT IS, RIGHT? THANK YOU. ANYTHING ON THE OTHER STUFF DOWN THERE THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? OKAY. FIRE CHIEF. SIR, CAN YOU JUST EMPHASIZE A LITTLE BIT? I THINK YOU JUST GLANCED OVER IT, BUT HOW IMPORTANT? THE BENEFIT OF THE INSURANCE ASPECT OF THAT CERTIFICATION.

IF WE DID HAVE THESE QUINTS. WELL, RIGHT NOW I'M PAYING.

I THINK IT'S LIKE $2,500 A YEAR FOR HOME INSURANCE.

SO IF WE WENT TO A CLASS ONE, I WOULD PROBABLY BE CLOSER TO THE THE 2000 TO $2100 PER YEAR FOR THAT SAME INSURANCE POLICY. NOW, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE, THAT WOULD I MEAN, HOW HOW YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION IS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE HUGE FOR SOME PEOPLE. FOR OTHER PEOPLE, THEY'RE LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S JUST A FEW HUNDRED BUCKS. BUT I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT FOR THE MOST PART, THAT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT SAVINGS FOR MOST OF THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY.

NOW, AS FAR AS THE IMPACT ON THE BUSINESSES ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, SAVING SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS, THAT'S ENTICING. SOME MAJOR INDUSTRIES WON'T COME INTO AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE A HIGH FIRE RATING OR AN ISO RATING BECAUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR REASON, THE INSURANCE THAT IT'S GOING TO COST THEM, WHEN THEY CAN GO SOMEWHERE THAT DOES HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT'S AT A TWO OR A THREE AND NOT HAVE TO ENCOUNTER THAT KIND OF COST INCREASE. COPY THAT SIR. STAND FAST. YES, SIR.

ARE YOUR QUESTIONS COMPLETED BY THIS DIRECTOR? NOW YOU WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER DIRECTOR? YEAH.

I'M OKAY IF THE OTHER GENTLEMEN WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS.

COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CHIEF? NO, NOT SPECIFICALLY ON THIS. YEAH, BUT YOU YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE I'LL CALL BACK ON.

YES, SIR. I'LL CALL BACK ON YOU. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND, YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF.

YES. OBVIOUSLY 5188 IS A DIFFERENT VEHICLE THAN 5151 AND 5182.

THAT'S CORRECT. 5188 IS THE BIG IS THE BIG LADDER.

HOW DO I SEE ALL THREE OF THOSE ARE THE SAME PRICE? ARE WE DOING AWAY WITH THE BIG LADDER AND GOING TO THREE THAT ARE A LITTLE SMALLER? YES. AND THE REASON I'M MOVING AWAY FROM THAT'S 100, I BELIEVE IT'S EITHER 105 OR 107 FOOT.

THE REASON I'M MOVING AWAY FROM THAT IS IF WE GET THE QUINTS OUT THERE AND DEPLOYED CORRECTLY, WE CAN BE IN THE AIR DOING STUFF WHILE TRUCK ONE IS COMING IN THE.

AND WHILE I'M THE FIRE CHIEF, MY PLAN IS TO ONLY ASK FOR ONE MORE 100 FOOT PLUS AERIAL, AND THAT WOULD GO INTO THE SOUTH END.

ONCE THOSE STATIONS ARE OPEN, THEN WE'D HAVE 100 FOOT PLUS ON EACH END OF THE CITY, AND WOULD HAVE THE QUINTS IN THE MIDDLE TO TURN AROUND AND GET OUT THERE AND GET THINGS MOVING AHEAD OF TIME. ISO WANTS US TO HAVE SEVERAL 100 FOOT PLUS TOWER TRUCKS.

THERE ARE OVER $2 MILLION APIECE. AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE TRUCK.

EMPTY. I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY. WE CAN BUY THE QUINTS AND DEPLOY THEM IN A MUCH BETTER DEPLOYMENT MODEL.

SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS WITH I KNOW 51, 88 PRETTY MUCH COST AS MUCH TO OPERATE THAN IT COST TO TO PURCHASE OR OVER.

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DOES. AND CAN I ADD ONE THING TO THAT? YEAH, I WHAT WHAT GETS LOST SOMETIMES IS BUY ONE HERE AND BUY ONE THERE.

WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO STANDARDIZE THE FLEET IN ORDER TO HELP FLEET DO ITS JOB.

WE HAVE TO STANDARDIZE WHAT WE'RE BUYING SO THAT IF I NEED A HEADLIGHT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO.

WHAT TRUCK IS IT ON? AND THEN GO FIND THAT HEADLIGHT.

I NEED I NEED A HEADLIGHT. I NEED WINDSHIELD WIPERS.

I NEED THIS OR THAT. WELL WE HAVE THAT'S THE SAME ON ALL OF OUR TRUCKS AT THAT POINT THERE.

SO THAT HELPS THEM DO THEIR JOB BETTER AND GET THINGS TURNED AROUND QUICKER.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AT ONE TIME WE HAD FERRARA, WE HAD PIERCE, WE HAD SUFFERN.

WE HAD WE HAD ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT ONES THAT YOU HAD TO BECOME CERTIFIED IN EACH THING.

THEN THEN ON THE PUMP TESTING, YOU HAD TO GO TO AKRON.

YOU HAD TO DO WATER. YES. I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

MY QUESTION IS, DO THESE ESPECIALLY 51, 88, DOES THAT HAVE A VALUE TO ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT WE CAN MAYBE DO? THE SISTER TO ONE OF THOSE AND I THINK IT WAS 51, 51, 83, I FORGET IT WAS IT WAS IN THAT SAME SERIES OF PURCHASES. THE OTHER.

FERRARA. ALL. FERRARA. CITY OF MALABAR. TOWN OF MALABAR.

I'M SORRY. TOOK THAT FROM US AS A DONATION. AND THEY USED THAT AS THEIR SECOND OUT VEHICLE WHEN THEIR PIERCE IS NOT AVAILABLE.

YEAH. SO THERE WILL BE SOME USE TO SOME OTHER DEPARTMENT.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME MONEY BACK, BUT I I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT.

WELL I KNOW 5188 HAS, HAS HAS AN IMMENSE VALUE TO IT I WOULD THINK.

WELL AND FOR SOME DEPARTMENTS THAT WANT IT NEED AN AERIAL DEVICE.

I WOULD HOPE SO. BUT IN REALITY MOST OF THESE TRUCKS END UP OVER IN THE ISLANDS ONCE WE GET RID OF THEM.

OKAY. I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE IF WE COULD FIGURE SOMETHING OUT WITH GETTING A BETTER USE OF THOSE OTHER THAN SENDING THEM TO GIDEON OR GOV DEALS.COM.

SO YES, SIR, I THINK WE CAN GET A LITTLE BETTER FOR THOSE THINGS BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL OPERATIONAL AND THEY HAVE THEY HAVE GREAT ENGINES IN THEM.

SO AND WE CAN WORK WITH OUR I'M SORRY FLEET TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN, TO DO THE BEST WE CAN ON THAT.

THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. I THINK NEXT. NEXT.

DIRECTOR. THANK YOU SIR. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU CHIEF. SO I THINK WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE NEXT ON THE LIST UNDER THE PRIORITY ONES.

AND WE'LL KIND OF JUST GO WITH THAT.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. MR. MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

ELECTRICAL SERVICES, WE POWER ALL OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, MULTIPLE PUMPS AND STREET LIGHTS, AND THE ELECTRICAL SERVICES GO UP EVERY YEAR.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO PAY THOSE POWER BILLS.

THE MOWING SERVICES ARE. FOR CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE THAT HAD TO BE RENEGOTIATED.

THE CONTRACTOR PERFORMS MOWING AND MAINTENANCE OF 14 MAJOR LOCATIONS AROUND THE CITY, INCLUDING PALM BAY ROAD, MINTON ROAD, PORTIONS OF BABCOCK STREET, MALABAR ROAD, EMERSON DRIVE, AND SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

COOL. ANY QUESTIONS? NO. THAT ANSWERED A LOT ABOUT ELECTRICAL SERVICES.

IT WAS PRETTY VAGUE THAT IT COVERS A LOT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. YES, PLEASE.

WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL, I WILL SPEAK TO THE WRISTBANDS.

THE WRISTBANDS ARE. TRAFFIC OPERATIONS IS REQUESTING FUNDS FOR WRISTBANDS OF VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC INDUSTRY STANDARD STATES THAT SIGNAL SHOULD BE WRISTBAND APPROXIMATELY EVERY TEN YEARS DUE TO SIGNAL CABLE WIRE INSULATION DETERIORATION. AND CURRENTLY, MANY OF OURS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS AND HAVE NEVER BEEN REWIRED.

WE DO ASK FOR THIS EVERY YEAR, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO THAT IS WHAT THAT REQUEST IS.

AND THE VISION DETECTION SYSTEM IT IS A SYSTEM THAT COMMUNICATES IT'S A COMMUNICATION SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES TRAFFIC COUNT DATA AND THE ABILITY TO OPTIMIZE SIGNAL OPERATION TO IMPROVE SIGNAL PERFORMANCE AND REDUCES VEHICLE EMISSIONS.

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SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL 90,000 FOR THAT.

THE OTHER ITEMS ARE EQUIPMENT ITEMS. AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO NADIA.

SHE HAS MORE INFORMATION ON THIS. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU SIR.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS NAGDCA MCLAUGHLIN. I'M ONE OF THE PUBLIC WORK ASSISTANTS, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS AND FLEET, AND I'LL GO AHEAD. SO MOST OF THE STUFF THAT I'M TRYING TO SPEAK ON THE MIC, MOST OF IT, MOST OF THE OPERATING ITEMS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR FOR OPERATIONS IS GENERAL FUND.

THEY'RE MOSTLY REPLACEMENTS, SO THEY'RE PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE.

SO LIKE FOR THE. THE GRAPPLE TRUCK. I THOUGHT WE BOUGHT ONE RECENTLY.

DIDN'T WE ORDER A GRAPPLE TRUCK THAT WAS FOR PUBLIC? YES. PUBLIC WORKS. IT SAYS TO REPLACE THE OTHER ONE.

OH, IT'S FOR STORMWATER. YES. I THOUGHT THAT WAS FOR YEAH.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. RIGHT. SO THESE THESE ARE FOR GENERAL FUND THAT WE'RE ASKING AND IT'S A REPLACEMENT.

SO LET ME SEE FOR THE. WHAT IS. I MEAN, THE NEED FOR THE GRAPPLE TRUCK. JUST ASK ABOUT THAT AGAIN. HOW OLD IS THE THE OTHER ONE? AND I JUST I THOUGHT WE BOUGHT TWO LIKE EARLIER THIS YEAR.

ONE FOR WATER AND ONE FOR PUBLIC WORKS. SO I THOUGHT IT WAS MOSTLY IN RELATION TO LIKE BEING PREPARED FOR THE HURRICANE.

THAT WAS THAT WAS FOR STORM WATER. WHEN WE ASKED FOR THE THE WATER TRUCK THAT WAS FOR STORM WATER.

SO THE ONE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW IS FOR GENERAL FUND. THAT'S A REPLACEMENT.

SO IT'S TWO DIFFERENT FUNDS. WHAT ARE THE USES THOUGH? I THINK HE'S ASKING. IT WAS A REPLACEMENT. HOW OLD IS THE OTHER TRUCK? HE ASKED HOW OLD? RIGHT. IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? THE QUESTION IS LIKE, WHAT'S THE USE? KIND OF LIKE, GIVE ME A MINUTE.

BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE DEPARTMENT'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE PITCH US ON WHY YOU NEED IT.

SO, YOU KNOW, TELL US WHY WE DEPUTY MAYOR. I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN HAMMER, WHO WAS A PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEE.

I GUESS I'LL CALL ON HIM. HE'S TRYING TO RING IN IF I CAN HELP OUT.

I THINK VEHICLE NUMBER 6574 IS A 2005 STERLING THAT IS DEFINITELY AGED.

AND THAT'S A PUBLIC WORKS ITEM. IT'S NOT A STORM WATER, BUT IF THAT'S THE ONE I'M THINKING OF, WHERE WHERE WOULD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. THEY PUT THE VEHICLE NUMBERS. THEY'RE REPLACING PUBLIC WORKS.

DIDN'T SURE. BUT WHAT WAS THE GRAPPLE TRUCK THAT WE BOUGHT? PUBLIC WORKS OKAY. YEAH, BUT NOT A REPLACEMENT.

SO FORGIVE US. COUNCIL, OUR OUR LIST IS IN THE ORDER OF OUR PRIORITY, NOT THE ORDER OF THE SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING IT UP.

IT'S RIGHT HERE.

IT'S RIGHT HERE. THERE IT IS. IT REPLACES ASSET 6574, WHICH WAS SENT TO AUCTION IN 2020 AND HAS NOT BEEN REPLACED.

REPLACING THIS ASSET WOULD ALLOW US TO CLEAR STORM DEBRIS MUCH FASTER, AND ALLOW US TO BE A LITTLE MORE INDEPENDENT OF STORM CONTRACTORS, WHO MAY ALREADY BE DISPATCHED TO OTHER AREAS.

THE VEHICLE IS 20. THE VEHICLE IS REPLACING WAS 21 YEARS OLD.

WE HAD. THE TRUCK IS USED TO PICK UP TREE TRIMMINGS, ILLEGAL DUMPING OF MATERIAL AND GARBAGE.

$63,000 WAS SPENT ON MAINTENANCE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE OF THIS 21 YEAR OLD VEHICLE.

AND THE NEXT ONE IS TO RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATOR.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. SO REAL QUICK TO IN ADDITION TO THE THE REQUEST OF THE THE EQUIPMENT, WOULD THIS ALSO RELATE TO LIKE A FULL TIME POSITION AS WELL OR.

NO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE.

OKAY. THE NEXT ONE IS THE THE RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATOR THAT IS ALSO REPLACEMENT EIGHT YEARS OLD.

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SO WE CURRENTLY PUBLIC WORKS IS WITHOUT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, WHICH IS VITAL TO REPLACE, TO REPLACE PIPES AND EXCAVATE SWALES. SO RENTING THIS EQUIPMENT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN US NOT OWNING IT. HOW MANY RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATORS DOES THE CITY OWN IN THIS DEPARTMENT? I BELIEVE THIS IS JUST THE ONE THAT WE HAVE. OKAY.

NEXT ONE IS OUR TRACTOR, ALSO REPLACEMENT. THIS ONE IS 15 YEARS OLD.

SO WE'RE REQUESTING TO REPLACE 68, 68, 42. THIS IS A TRACTOR THAT IS USED TO PULL A BUSH HOG MOWER DECK.

THE TRACTOR AND BUSH HOG DECK ARE USED TO MAINTAIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THIS KEEPS THE GRASS OFF THE EDGE OF THE ROADWAYS, WHICH HELPS TO KEEP SWALES OPEN FOR PROPER DRAINAGE.

IT ALSO PREVENTS GRASS FROM OVERGROWING ON THE SIDEWALKS.

AVOIDING A TRIPPING HAZARD TO THE PUBLIC. THIS EQUIPMENT IS ALMOST SEVEN YEARS PAST ITS SERVICE LIFE AND HAS OCCURRED MORE THAN IT'S WORTH OF REPAIRS. THE ORIGINAL COST FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WAS $42,000, AND WE'VE SPENT 127 OVER $127,000 IN REPAIRS.

SO WE'LL GO TO THE FLATBEDS. THESE ARE ALSO REPLACEMENTS WE'RE REPLACING.

WE'RE ASKING TO REPLACE TWO. BOTH ARE 17 YEARS OLD.

REPLACED. REPLACED TO DO. I SAID 6820 AND 6821.

SO I SAID 6 TO 20 6 TO 820 IS A HEAVY DUTY. FIVE 5550 WITH A CUSTOM BED WITH A CUSTOM SIGN, POLE STORAGE, CUSTOM TOOLBOX, AND IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY SIGNS REPAIR TRUCK AND IT HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE DUE TO SAFETY ISSUES WITH ABS SYSTEM NEEDING NEEDING UNAVAILABLE PARTS 6820 HAS BEEN AUCTIONED OFF AND NEEDS REPLACEMENT IN ORDER FOR TRAFFIC. FOR OUR TRAFFIC STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM DUTIES, THIS ONE IS TRAFFIC.

SO THESE ARE BOTH FOR OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION. I JUST WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE RUBBER TIRE AGAIN. IS THAT PRICE ACCURATE? I JUST MY EXPERIENCE. I'VE NEVER SEEN A RUBBER TIRE BACKHOE GO FOR $400,000.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A DUMP TRUCK BE CHEAPER THAN A RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATOR.

SO. SORRY. GIVE ME ONE MINUTE, PLEASE. EXCAVATOR. WELL. WE'RE RETIRING SOON. YEAH, THAT'S FOR ONE. YES. THAT'S ONE.

ONE. SO THE. SO THE RUBBER TIRES. THAT'S THE ONE WHERE THE THE THE WE DO HAVE.

WHAT IS THAT? THAT SAYS THIS IS IT, RIGHT? WHAT DOES THAT SAY? THAT'S THE ONE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO GO DOWN THE DRAINAGE CANALS DOWN THE MIDDLE, AND THE TIRES GO UP AND DOWN.

I BEG YOUR PARDON, SIR. IT LOOKS LIKE THE QUOTE IN HERE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN.

IT'S A VEHICLE REQUEST FORM THAT WE RECEIVED FROM FLEET.

I CAN SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THE OF THE. THANK YOU.

MAY I MAY I? YES. BRING IT FORWARD. YEAH, I ACTUALLY ACTUALLY GOOGLED.

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THAT'S REPLACING THE RUBBER TIRES. THIS IS MA'AM, YOU GOT TO GO BACK, CHRISTINE.

YOU GOT. THAT'S THE WRONG ONE. I'M TOLD THIS IS A RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATOR.

YEAH, THAT'S A MINI EXCAVATOR. I AM NOT THE FOREMOST EXPERT ON RUBBER TIRE EXCAVATORS, I APOLOGIZE.

I JUST. NO. IT'S OKAY. THAT'S IT. IT'S ALL RIGHT.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO LOOK INTO THAT FURTHER, SIR? AND GET BACK TO YOU? YEAH, FOR THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE. WE WILL DO THAT. OKAY.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE. SORRY, THE SKID STEER REPLACEMENT.

IT'S 15 YEARS OLD. SO WE'RE REPLACING. I SAID 68, 49.

IT IS USED FOR MILLING ROADWAYS, FOR POTHOLE REPAIRS, LOADING TRUCKS AND MOVING PIPES.

FOR REPLACEMENT. AND HAS A FORESTER ATTACHED ATTACH THAT HELPS KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE FROM CUTTING BACK THIS DENSE VEGETATION ALONG OUR RIGHT OF WAYS. IF NEEDED, WE ORIGINALLY PAID $102,000 FOR THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, AND HAVE SPENT 129 OVER 129,000 IN REPAIRS.

SO. I'LL GO TO THE 515. AM I MISSING ANY? AM I MISSING ANY? NO. THAT'S GOOD, THANK YOU. YES. SO. YES.

SO MOST OF OUR ASKS FOR GENERAL FUND FOR PUBLIC WORKS OPERATION IS REPLACEMENTS, AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE.

ANY IS THAT. NO. WE'RE GOOD. NEXT ONE. YES, SIR.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO WITH PARKS AND FACILITIES.

GREG. THANK YOU SIR. YOU.

KNOW HE HE'S HE'S HE'S GOING TO SPEND A MONTH.

HE'S GONNA KNOW. MAYOR. COUNCIL.

PARKS AND FACILITIES. THE REOCCURRING COSTS ON BUILDING E AND FIRE STATION SEVEN.

SERGEANT MAJOR. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH.

THANK YOU. THE ON BOARD AND CONTRACTUAL COSTS ARE BASICALLY.

REMEMBER, BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

AND AS THEY COME ONLINE THE END OF THIS YEAR WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALARM SYSTEM.

FIRE SYSTEM. FIRE PROTECTION. FIRE EXTINGUISHERS.

GENERATOR. MAINTENANCE. GENERATOR. FUEL. JANITORIAL SERVICES.

UTILITY BILLS TO INCLUDE WATER AND ELECTRIC ELEVATOR MAINTENANCE, IRRIGATION, PEST CONTROL, AND HVAC MAINTENANCE. THESE ARE BASICALLY UTILITY COSTS AND OTHER COSTS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BRING THOSE BUILDINGS ONLINE AND MAINTAIN THEM FOR A YEAR. QUESTION ON ON THAT.

DOES DOES THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND OTHER ENTERPRISE FUNDS PAY FOR THEIR FAIR PORTION? YES, SIR. OKAY. JANITOR. THE JANITOR SERVICES FOR THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE.

TED WHITLOCK. WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER AND TONY ROSA COMMUNITY CENTERS ARE BASICALLY WEEKLY CALLS.

WE HAVE A JANITORIAL FIRM ON CONTRACT, SAME AS WE DO HERE.

CITY HALL AND ANNEX. AND THEY CLEANED THOSE BUILDINGS DAILY.

THE 2833 IS FOR THE JANITORIAL SERVICES, FOR THE SMALL RECREATION BUILDING AT VETERANS BUILDING.

AND THE 2280 IS FOR THE BATHROOM LOCATED AT TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY.

COOL. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN NOTHING WOULD SOUND BAFFLES FOR TED WHITLOCK WHILE YOU'RE HERE. EXCUSE ME. IS IT OKAY? COPY THAT.

CARRY ON. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I DIDN'T WRITE.

OKAY. I DIDN'T SEE IT, SO. THANK YOU. THE OTHER TOP TEN REQUESTS UNDER GENERAL FUND FOR PARKS AND FACILITIES.

PRETTY MUCH ALL OUR SPORTS LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE AT ALL OUR MAJOR FIELDS, WHETHER IT'S LIBERTY CONNECT PALM BAY REGIONAL

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SO ALL THE LIGHTING, SPORTS LIGHTING ALL ALL THOSE PARKS NEEDED NEED TO BE UPGRADED.

NONE OF THE EXISTING POLES ARE UP TO TO THE HURRICANE STANDARDS.

THE LIGHT FIXTURES, THE BANKS OF LIGHT FIXTURES THEMSELVES.

AREN'T HURRICANE RATED. WE TOOK OVER PARKS IN APRIL OF 2021, AND WE'VE HAD WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW ALL THESE LIGHT FIXTURES, ALL HOW ENERGY INEFFICIENT THEY ARE.

SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. OUR MONTHLY FPL BILLS.

THE HIGHEST BILL WE HAVE IS PD. THEY RUN 24 HOURS THING.

SECOND CITY HALL ANNEX. AND OUR THIRD HIGHEST LIGHT BILL IS AT LIBERTY PARK.

DUE TO OUTDATED FIXTURES. WELL TURKEY CREEK WOOD AND BOARDWALK, WE MAKE CONSTANT REPAIRS ON A MONTHLY BASIS THAT THE DISTANCE OF THAT BOARDWALK IS, LIKE, 1.85 MILES.

WE USE PRESSURE TREATED LUMBER OUT THERE DURING THE STORMS. WE ALWAYS HAVE A LOT OF DAMAGE OUT THERE FROM HURRICANES.

YOU KNOW, IT'S HEAVILY WOODED AREAS, SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY REPAIRING AND EVEN TREES JUST FALLING OVER, YOU KNOW, KNOCK OUT PORTIONS OF THE BOARDWALK.

SO THAT'S IF WE WENT IN THERE AND REPLACE THE ENTIRE BOARDWALK.

THAT'S THE $1.7 MILLION YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THAT'S JUST JUST THE SURFACE OR.

YES. THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE. NO. THE ENTIRE STRUCTURES.

PILINGS, STRINGERS, JOISTS, HANDRAILS, ETC.. DID YOU PROPOSE TO GO BACK WITH PRESSURE TREATED OR TREX? YEAH, TREX WOULD PROBABLY BE TWO, TWO AND A HALF, THREE TIMES LUMBER CALLS.

SO NUNGESSER, LIKE I SAID, IS ANOTHER PART THAT THAT NEEDS TOTAL LIGHT UPGRADES.

SAME THING AS CONNECT PARK. PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK REPAVED THE ENTIRE DISTANCE.

THE ROAD THAT GOES INTO PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK IS THE IS THE ORIGINAL ROAD THAT WAS PUT IN WHEN WHEN THE PARK WAS BUILT, IT WAS PART OF THE BREVARD COUNTY, 2000 PARKES REFERENDUM PROJECT.

AND WE'RE TALKING THE PAVED ROAD WAS PUT IN BACK IN THE EARLY 2000 AND HASN'T BEEN.

WE'VE MADE SOME REPAIRS TO TO THE SHOULDERS, BUT IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEED TO DO DO A REPAVING BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE WHERE WE'RE COST ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.

PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK BALL FIELD DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK HAS BEEN FAMOUS FOR HAVING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE WITH THE SUBBASE.

THERE'S A LOT OF MORAL AND UNDER UNDER ALL THE FIELDS AND STUFF OUT THERE.

WE'VE TRIED DIFFERENT THINGS PUTTING IN FRENCH DRAINS AND OTHER TYPE.

BUT BUT IT'S IT'S NOTORIOUS FOR HAVING DRAINAGE PROBLEMS OUT THERE.

YEAH, BUT FOR THE RECORD, IT'S FRED POPPY REGIONAL.

I'M SORRY. USED TO BE FRED. THAT'S WHY THE COUNTY GAVE US THAT PART.

NO THAT THERE'S A HISTORY. ACTUALLY, THAT WAS ONE OF THE PARKS.

BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, I'M RETIRED FROM BREVARD COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION, AND I WAS ASSIGNED AREA MANAGER.

AND PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK WAS LIKE, THE PRISTINE PARK IN THE SOUTH AREA.

BUT WHEN THERE WAS A CHANGE IN LEADERSHIP AT PALM BAY, WE TURNED THE PARK OVER TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN 2015, ALONG WITH THE PALM BAY AQUATIC CENTER AND THE GREATER PALM BAY SENIOR CENTER.

WAS THERE A REFERENDUM OR LIKE A TAX REFERENDUM ATTACHED TO THAT? YES, SIR. AND WHAT IS WHERE IS THAT MONEY NOW? WE COULD WE WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. RIGHT. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

THAT'S. YES. BUT THAT WAS PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK.

THEN WHAT WAS AN EXCELLENT 2000 AND 2006 BREVARD COUNTY PARKS REFERENDUM THAT PASSED LIBERTY

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AND THAT'S LIBERTY PARK'S GETTING REAL CLOSE TO TO THAT POINT.

SAME THING AS PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK SOFTBALL TURF.

WE TYPICALLY USE BERMUDA SOD ON ON ALL THE SPORTS FIELDS AND BUT LIKE I SAID, AFTER MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO DO, DO A TURF REPLACEMENT.

LIBERIA PARK ADA UPGRADES LIBERIA PARK IS REALLY MORE OF A SPLASH PARK.

IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING OVER THERE, SO THAT 345,000 WOULD INCLUDE MOSTLY FOR FOR TO PUT PARKING, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THERE REALLY ISN'T ADEQUATE PARKING OVER THERE.

AND THE NUNGESSER PARK TENNIS COURT THAT'S TENNIS COURT IS TO THE POINT OF IT'S NOT WORTH RESURFACING IT ANYMORE. THE SUBBASE IS CONTAMINATED.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU START GETTING IN A LOT OF CRACKS IN YOUR TENNIS COURTS AND BASKETBALL COURTS AND THE 300.

EXCUSE ME? THE 235,000 IS A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT.

TAKING THE ENTIRE COURT OUT PUTTING IN NEW SUBBASE, NEW ASPHALT AND NEW PAINT AND FENCING.

THANK YOU. SO THAT'S GOOD. I BELIEVE THE HIGH THE REOCCURRING GENERAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S PRIORITY ONE.

A LOT OF OUR PRIORITY ONES, LIKE I SAID, ARE ARE CONTRACTUAL, ESPECIALLY ON BUILDING E AND FIRE STATION SEVEN.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT CONCLUDES HIS QUESTION, BUT I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN HAMMER HAS A QUESTION.

WITH PALM BAY REGIONAL PARK, WE'RE DOING A WHOLE MASTER PLAN FOR THE REGIONAL PARK.

YOU MEAN FRED? POPPY. WE'RE FOR FRED. POPPY. YES, FRED POPPY REGIONAL PARK? YES. WHAT WOULD BE THE USE OF DOING THIS AND THEN TEARING IT UP ONCE WE GET THE MASTER PLAN DONE? WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO PAVE IT FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE MACHINES IN AND OUT ON IT ONCE IT'S COMPLETE.

SO, I MEAN, I WOULD HATE TO SEE FUNDING GO TO SOMETHING.

AND THEN A YEAR LATER WE'RE TEARING IT ALL UP.

NO, I AGREE, I MEAN, BUT IT'S TO THE POINT WHERE YOU KNOW, THE MASTER PLAN AT FRED POPPE REGIONAL PARK, WE HAVE ENGINEERING FIRM KIMLEY-HORN UNDER CONTRACT.

AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE REVIEW PROCESS TO, TO INCLUDE DIFFERENT ITEMS, PICKLEBALL COURTS, ETC.. BUT BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO REPAVE UNTIL THE MASTER PLAN.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THESE JUST ADDED TO THAT.

AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BRING A LOT OF A LOT OF THAT OUT OF THERE.

IT'LL TAKE ALMOST $2 MILLION OFF OF THAT. YEAH.

JUST SO LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION AT THIS POINT.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK MISS MOSCONI REGARDING THE PLANS FOR THAT CORRIDOR PUBLIC SAFETY WISE.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PLANS FOR RELATED TO FUTURE FIRE STATIONS? YES, MA'AM. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. SO THEY'RE THERE ALSO.

THERE'S SEVERAL MOVING PARTS IN THAT PARTICULAR CORRIDOR.

THERE IS, OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY THAT WE DID THE LAND SWAP WITH ACROSS FROM THE NEW PUBLIX AT SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IN MALABAR, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT FUTURE FIRE STATION EIGHT.

YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE ENGINEERING TASK ORDER TO START THE CIVIL WORK DESIGN, I SHOULD SAY THE CIVIL DESIGN ON THAT SITE.

THERE'S ALSO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMING IN ON THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER.

THAT WAS PART OF THE LAND SWAP. AND THEN NEXT TO THAT, YOU HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ON THE EAST, TO THE EAST OF WHERE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY WOULD EXTEND, YOU HAVE STELLAR CASITAS THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THAT DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE FORKS WHICH WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH, DEVELOPING A DA WITH THEM AND BRINGING THEM TO FTP.

YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT SOMETIME AFTER YOUR SUMMER RECESS.

AND PART OF THAT INCLUDES THE EXTENSION OF SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, BUT ALSO THREE FORKS ENTRANCE LINES UP WITH

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SO THERE WILL BE A TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WILL BE DONE TO DETERMINE IF THAT WARRANTS A SIGNAL, WHICH, OF COURSE, WE HOPE IT DOES, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO'S EVER TRIED TO GET OUT OF THAT PARK KNOWS THAT YOU NEED A SIGNAL TO GET BACK OUT OF MALABAR ROAD.

TO YOUR POINT. COUNCILMAN, I THINK IS A VERY GOOD POINT.

ONE THING WE COULD DO IS WE COULD TIE THAT IN WITH THE PARKING EXPANSION THAT WE'RE DOING ALONG THE SOCCER FIELDS.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS YOUR REQUEST. AND THAT IS FIGURED INTO THE MASTER PLAN TO DO EXTENSIVE EXPANSION OF PARKING ALONG THE SOCCER FIELDS ARE MOST HEAVILY UTILIZED.

FIELDS. JUST KNOW THAT ANYTHING THAT'S ON THIS LIST, LIKE THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ROADWAY REPLACEMENT CAN'T BE USED WITH IMPACT FEES, WHEREAS WE INTEND TO FUND THE MAJORITY OF THE RED POPPY PARK MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS WITH IMPACT FEES BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL NEW AMENITIES.

I HOPE THAT HELPS THE POSSIBILITY OF USING THE TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER.

IS THAT STILL ONGOING FOR FIRE? YES, MA'AM. SO WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH TEMPORARY FIRE STATION EIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR. SORRY I DIDN'T PICK UP EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANTED ME TO COVER.

WE'RE LOOKING AT SEVERAL OPTIONS, STEVE. ACTUALLY, STEVE WOULDN'T OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. I'M GOING TO SINGLE HIM OUT. HE'S DONE A GREAT ANALYSIS OF POTENTIAL SITES FOR WHAT WE DO FOR A TEMPORARY STATION EIGHT.

WE LOOKED AT EVERYTHING FROM PROPERTY THAT WE OWN ON MALABAR ROAD TO DO.

WE PURCHASE A SECOND TEMPORARY STRUCTURE AND PUT IT ON THE PERMANENT EIGHT SITE, SINCE YOU ALREADY HAVE TO DO THE DESIGN WORK AND BRING UTILITIES, INFRASTRUCTURE, A DRIVEWAY, POWER UP. DO WE BRING ENOUGH IN SO THAT WE COULD PLACE ANOTHER TEMPORARY STRUCTURE THERE? BUT WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE POSSIBILITY OF USING AND DANIEL HAS WALKED WITH THE WITH CHIEF STOVER THROUGH USING TED WHITLOCK COMMUNITY CENTER ROOMS A AND B, ONE AND TWO, ONE AND TWO, ONE AND TWO, WHICH WHEN YOU WALK INTO THE CENTER OF THE ONES ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO OPERATE OUT OF, THEY'RE NOT A HEAVILY UTILIZATION RENTAL RATE.

THEY'RE VERY SMALL ROOMS. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN THERE.

THIS IS THIS COMMUNITY CENTER IS ONE OF THE PROTOTYPES THAT WERE BUILT ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

SO IF YOU GO INTO RHODES PARK, VIERA PARK SOUTH BEACHES COMMUNITY CENTER, AND I KNOW BECAUSE I WORK AT THE COUNTY, WHEN I DID THOSE TWO, THEY'RE ALL THE SAME FOOTPRINT.

LARRY'S NODDING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO THOSE ROOMS ARE SMALL.

NOBODY WOULD EVER PROBABLY DESIGN A COMMUNITY CENTER WITH ROOMS THAT SMALL AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT VERY HEAVILY UTILIZED.

SO YOU'VE GOT SHOWERS, YOU'VE GOT RESTROOMS, YOU'VE GOT MINOR COOKING FACILITIES, NOT COMMERCIAL QUALITY COOKING FACILITIES, NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL FIREHOUSE KITCHEN THAT THEY LIKE TO DO BIG MEALS IN.

BUT IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND WHAT WE HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT IS HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE ROADWAY? WHEN YOU DRIVE THAT HEAVY EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT, ALSO, HOW DO YOU GET OUT WHEN YOU HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT LIKE FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA OR EVEN A SOCCER TOURNAMENT? SO WE TALKED ABOUT, WELL, WE WON'T HAVE WE WON'T HAVE THEM DISPATCHED FROM THERE FOR THOSE EVENTS.

WE'LL HAVE THEM STATIONED, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS OR SOMEWHERE ELSE LIKE THAT.

SO THOSE ARE ALL CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING IN THE BACKGROUND THAT RELATE TO SOME OF THESE REQUESTS.

THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMAN HAM, I JUST WANTED YOU TO GET THAT OVERALL PICTURE.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, AND I UNDERSTAND THE ROAD. I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TO FIX THE DRAINAGE ON THE BALL FIELD AND THE BALL FIELD BE MOVED TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE OF THE PARK OR SOMETHING ELSE. OR WHAT WAS THE OTHER ONE? FOR INSTANCE, REPLACING THE TURF ON THE SOFTBALL FIELD. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET SOMETHING THAT SAYS THE MASTER PLAN GIVES US ASTROTURF.

SO YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO BRING WHEN WE BRING IT FORWARD.

THE FUNDING WE GET, EVERYTHING ELSE. I WOULD JUST HATE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND IT WOULD JUST BE WASHED AWAY WITH THE MASTER PLAN.

JUST WANT TO BRING THAT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE IT'S SEEN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. ANY PUBLIC QUESTIONS OR PARTS QUESTIONS? COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YOU'VE BEEN VERY PATIENT, SIR.

THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, CARRY ON YOUR NEXT. THANK YOU.

DIRECTOR. SO I THINK WE'LL DO IT. SO IF SEAN WANTS TO COME UP NOW, DO DISREGARD THE TOTAL ROW.

THAT IS INCORRECT. THIS IS SCRIVENER ERROR. SO JUST LOOK AT THE TWO INDIVIDUAL ONES ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, DEPUTY MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

SO I'LL START WITH THE SECOND ITEM, WHICH IS THE RFP SOFTWARE.

AND THEIR REQUESTS. SO BASICALLY WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE FIRST PHASE OF OUR ERP

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WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPLETION OF PHASE ONE APPROXIMATELY AROUND SEPTEMBER.

AND PHASE TWO WILL KICK OFF THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

SO BASICALLY WE HAVE TO PAY ANNUAL RENEWALS. EVEN THOUGH ERP IS A LONG PROCESS, WE HAVE TO PAY THESE RENEWALS ANNUALLY.

SO THE SOFTWARE RENEWALS, THERE'S A SHORTFALL.

THE TOTAL AMOUNT AMOUNTS THAT RENEWABLES ARE COMING UP TO ARE ROUGHLY AROUND.

LET ME FIND IT HERE. 409. ONE MOMENT FOR.

THAT. YEAH.

YEAH. SO ROUGHLY 409, 400. SO IT WAS ABLE TO ALLOCATE 335, $650 IN OUR BUDGET TOWARDS THAT.

SO THERE'S A SHORTFALL OF WHAT'S LEFT OF THAT REMAINDER.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO PAY THE BUDGETING SOLUTION PORTION OF THAT WHICH IS 64 500.

AND ALSO THE AIR COMPONENT OF THAT WHICH IS 6600.

SO THAT'S THE OPERATING SHORTFALL OF 144 850 THAT YOU SEE THERE.

THE NEXT ONE IS BASICALLY. YEAH, YEAH. THE SECOND ONE, THE NEXT ONE IS BASICALLY FOR EQUIPMENT THAT'S AGED OVER TIME. THERE ARE SEVERAL RISK ASSESSMENTS THAT WE DO ANNUALLY.

AND THERE'S CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY.

AND WE DID AN AUDIT LAST YEAR A PRIORITY CODE ONE THAT SAID THAT WE HAD SOME AGING EQUIPMENT THAT'S BASICALLY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SWAP OUT.

SO THESE ARE FOR EDGE SWITCHES, NOT TO GET TOO TECHNICAL, BUT AN EDGE SWITCH IS PRETTY MUCH A NETWORK DEVICE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN ALL OF OUR FACILITIES THAT CONNECT BACK TO A CORE SWITCH THAT EXISTS HERE AT CITY HALL.

SO WITH THAT SAID, ALL THE EDGE SWITCHES ON THE OUTLIERS OF THE BUILDINGS ARE END OF LIFE.

THE AVERAGE LIFE SPAN OF A SWITCH IN SIX YEARS.

THESE ARE EIGHT YEARS. SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE WELL PAST THAT LIFESPAN.

SO IN OUR RISK ASSESSMENT IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT WE BASICALLY HAVE A NUMBER TWO PRIORITY TO REPLACE THESE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS REQUEST IS FOR. IT'S BASICALLY LAID OUT OVER FIVE YEARS.

INCLUDES EQUIPMENT SOFTWARE AND SUBSCRIPTIONS TO COVER THAT.

SO JUST REAL QUICK IS THERE? IS THAT AN ERROR ON THE TOTALS? OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S THE THERE WAS YEAH. IT'S THE SAME AS PUBLIC WORKS. YEAH. OKAY.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY THE COVER THAT. SO THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITY ONE REQUESTS.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT. OKAY. GOOD. NEXT. THEN SECURITY CONTROL SECURITY CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL.

BASICALLY, THAT'S THE CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE AT CITY HALL.

RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF BUILDINGS CURRENTLY WITH SECURITY CAMERAS AND ACCESS CONTROL.

AND THE REQUEST THERE IS TO CONTINUE THAT OUTFIT OF THE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS TO INCLUDE BUILDING A THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THERE'S ALSO IN THAT PROVISION THERE $330,000 TO OUTFIT ALL OUR FIRE STATIONS.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH TO PROVIDE ACCESS CONTROL TO ALL THOSE FACILITIES.

THAT COVERS THAT. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THERE, I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF ITEMS, BECAUSE USUALLY WE DO. THIS WAS AN INITIATIVE THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH BY OUR PRIOR CITY MANAGER TO PROVIDE GPS WITHIN ALL OUR VEHICLES.

SO THAT PRETTY MUCH COVERS THAT. ANY QUESTIONS THERE? THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO RECREATION. SO IF DANIEL WANTS TO COME UP.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL. SO OUR REQUEST WITH THE STAFFING, THAT'S CONTRACTUAL, THAT GOES ALONG WITH STAFFING FOR OUR AQUATIC CENTER AND OUR SUMMER CAMPS. OBVIOUSLY, WITH YMCA COMING IN, THAT COULD CHANGE THINGS, BUT THAT DEPENDS ON THE AGREEMENTS AND GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE FISCAL YEARS WITH THEM.

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AND WE GOT SOME TRUCKS FROM BUILDING WHICH ARE ON THE ROAD A LOT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY WRAPPING THEM FOR SOME OUTREACH TO PROMOTE A LOT OF OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING FOR THAT EXTRA ADVERTISING. THE CHEMICALS ARE FOR THE AQUATIC CENTER.

ANYTIME WE HAVE ANY TYPE OF POWER, POWER FAILURE OR ANYTHING WE HAVE TO GO TO OUR BACKUP CHLORINE TANK TO KEEP THE CHEMICALS BALANCED IN THE POOL. THE FLOOR SCRUBBER THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IS PRETTY MUCH BREAKING DOWN THAT IS FOR OUR GYM FLOORS AT BOTH COMMUNITY CENTERS. AND THEN THE GYM EQUIPMENT IS TO REPLACE A COUPLE PIECES OF OUR GYM EQUIPMENT INSIDE A TONY ROSA IN THE WEIGHT ROOM.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. SO THEN I THINK WE'LL DO POLICE THERE? THE LAST DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A PRIORITY ONE SET.

AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER SMALLER ONES WITH THE OTHERS.

I'LL FIND THEM. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. AND GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN.

I THINK WE TRIED TO KEEP THIS PRETTY SIMPLE FOR YOU GENTLEMEN TO LOOK AT.

THE FIRST TWO ITEMS ON OUR PRIORITY LIST, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS.

AND THAT'S WITH AXON. THE FIRST ITEM THERE IS THE BUNDLE CONTRACT WE HAVE FOR OUR BODY WORN CAMERAS AND OUR TASERS.

SO FOR EVERY OFFICER WHO RECEIVES A BODY WORN CAMERA, THAT TASER ALSO COMES WITH IT.

AND IT'S A ONE FOR ONE PACKAGE. SO YOU'LL SEE THAT COST THERE WE ARE IN OR WILL BE ENTERING YEAR THREE OF THE FIVE YEAR CONTRACT WITH THEM.

THE SECOND OPTION, OR THE SECOND ITEM RATHER IS THE AXON STANDARDS.

THAT'S A NEW PROGRAM FOR US. AND THAT WILL REPLACE AN IA, WHICH IS OUR PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS INTERNAL INVESTIGATION PROGRAM.

THIS PROGRAM I PROGRAM, I THINK, WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN THE 80S. TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. AND WE'RE STILL USING IT TODAY.

SO AXON, WHICH INTEGRATES WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER COMPUTER SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE, HAS A PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS PORTAL, AND WE CONTRACTED WITH THEM FOR THAT. SO IT WILL TALK WITH ALL THE OTHER PROGRAMS WE HAVE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT PRICE THERE. THE OTHER THREE VEHICLES THAT YOU SEE ARE WHAT WERE DEEMED TOTAL LOSSES.

THEY WERE INVOLVED IN CRASHES. ONE WAS BURNT.

SO THE FIRST TWO FORD INTERCEPTORS ARE SUVS. ONE WAS TOTALED IN A CRASH AND THE OTHER BURNT RECENTLY, AS YOU PROBABLY HEARD. SO THOSE WERE BOTH DEEMED TOTAL LOSSES.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THOSE. AND THEN THAT LAST ITEM, THERE IS A CRIME SCENE VAN THAT WAS ALSO INVOLVED IN A CRASH AND DEEMED A TOTAL LOSS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THOSE THREE. SO THOSE THOSE THREE ARE ACTUALLY MORE LIKE $68,000.

SO THE THE TWO SUVS WERE ABOUT 68,000 EACH. AND THEN THE CRIME SCENE VAN IS ROUGHLY 73,000.

OKAY. GOOD. THEN OUR TOP TEN IS ALL VEHICLES.

AND SO JUST TO NOTE ON THAT, CHIEF AJELLO HAS BEEN STANDING UP HERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW TALKING ABOUT A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN.

THIS CERTAINLY ALIGNS WITH THAT. SO IN ADDITION TO THE TOP TEN REPLACEMENT VEHICLES WE'RE ASKING FOR TO STAY IN LINE FOR THIS YEAR, WE'D ALSO ASK FOR A 77 ADDITIONAL REPLACEMENT VEHICLES.

AND THAT WILL HELP US STAY IN LINE WITH THE THE PLAN THAT WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I WILL SAY THAT OUR VEHICLE FLEET IS PROBABLY THE BEST THAT IT'S BEEN IN A VERY LONG TIME, THANKS TO THE COUNCIL'S APPROVAL ON THAT. BUT IN ORDER TO STAY ON TRACK, THAT'S WHAT WE'D BE LOOKING FOR TO KEEP THAT GOING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THOSE TOP TEN AND ADDITIONAL SEVEN, IN ADDITION TO TWO OTHER CRIME SCENE VANS THAT WOULD HELP US OUT A LOT AND KEEP US ON TRACK WITH THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT WE, QUOTE UNQUOTE, HAVE AND HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.

AND TO THAT NOTE, I KNOW I'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH OUR NEW CITY MANAGER, MR. MORTON, ABOUT THAT CONTINUING REPLACEMENT AND THAT FUNDING MECHANISM.

YES, SIR. TO BE POINT. BUT LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING.

AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WANTS TO GO DOWN THIS RANGE, BUT PERHAPS PERHAPS YOU CAN FIND IT IN THE BUDGET TO ALLOCATE SOME SECURITY CAMERAS AT THE SACRIFICE PARK VENUE TO AVOID ANY FUTURE MISCHIEF, CRIMINAL MISCHIEF IN THAT AREA. IN PARTICULAR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD USE SOME OF THE VACANCY ONE OF THE VACANCY FUNDING FOR THAT, BUT CERTAINLY THAT SHOULD BE DONE A LOT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

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NO, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT, MAYOR. I WASN'T EVEN THINKING ABOUT THAT. BUT CONSIDERING THAT WE DO HAVE A HOMELESS POPULATION THAT TENDS TO MIGRATE OVER IN THAT AREA AND AROUND THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, PROBABLY AS WE'RE SPEAKING. THAT IS SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO, ESPECIALLY AT THE MOUNTAIN THAT WE PUT INTO THAT AREA. MY QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR, IS BACK TO THE AXON BODY CAMERAS.

ORIGINALLY THE FUNDING CAME FROM ARPA, FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT.

LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM AND LOOKING HOW IT'S BEEN UTILIZED.

AND I FEEL, IN MY OPINION, IT'S BEEN AN ASSET IN REGARDS TO TRANSPARENCY, PROTECTING OFFICERS AND CITIZENS.

HOW HAS THE DEPARTMENT SEEN IT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS SINCE IT'S BEEN IMPLEMENTED? WE LOVE THE BODY-WORN CAMERAS AND OUR OFFICERS LOVE THEM TOO. AND I CAN TELL YOU, I.

I SERVED A SHORT STINT IN INTERNAL AFFAIRS FOR A WHILE WHEN WE DID NOT HAVE THE CAMERAS TO REVIEW EVIDENCE AND COMPLAINTS, AND I CERTAINLY WISH WE DID AT THAT TIME, BECAUSE THEY DEFINITELY HELP OUT WHEN A CITIZEN COMPLAINS AND WE'RE ABLE TO DISPROVE OR PROVE THAT THE THE OFFICER MESSED UP OR DID NOT. THEY ALSO HELP WITH TRANSPARENCY IN REVIEWING RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE INVESTIGATIONS THAT HELP WITH TRAINING AND JUST REALLY MAKE US BETTER AT WHAT WE DO AND ACCOUNTABLE AT THE SAME TIME. SO WE'RE ALL ON BOARD FOR THE BODY WORN CAMERAS.

YES, SIR. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

SACRIFICE, SIR. VIDEO. SO THIS IS THE LAST SET OF THREE DEPARTMENTS.

WE CAN JUST DO THEM IN ORDER LEGISLATIVE, THEN HUMAN RESOURCES AND THEN PROCUREMENT.

AND THEN WE'RE DONE AFTER THAT. SO LEGISLATIVE HAS TWO.

THE BROADCAST SYSTEM FOR THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS TO UPGRADE THE AUDIO VISUAL EQUIPMENT THAT STREAMS AND RECORDS THE COUNCIL AND BOARD MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

THE CURRENT EQUIPMENT IS FROM 2018, AND THE SYSTEM HARDWARE SOFTWARE IS NO LONGER ABLE TO BE UPDATED.

AND THE SECOND IS LEGISLATIVE IS REQUESTING A RECLASSIFICATION OF THE SECRETARY POSITION TO ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY IN ORDER TO AVOID TURNOVER, AND ALSO TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL DUTIES ABOVE THE CURRENT PAY GRADE.

THANK YOU. MA'AM. WHAT ABOUT THOSE? THOSE CHAIRS? AND AND GETTING SOME SOME CHAIRS. I WE WE CAN GET THAT ADDED IN.

WELL, MA'AM, THERE'S IT WASN'T IN IN OUR BUDGET BEFORE THEY WERE HERE AT ONE POINT, AND THEY JUST WEREN'T EXACTLY WHAT COULD, COULD BE USED FOR.

SO THAT'S. I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THAT AND SEE HOW WE CAN SOMEHOW ACCOMMODATE THE CITIZENRY THAT THAT JOINS OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY THEY HAVE COMPLAINED TIME AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT THE CUSHIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO ENDURE IN, IN IN WATCHING OUR MOVE OUR, OUR OUR MEETINGS.

SO I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. SO THANK YOU. NEXT.

GOOD EVENING. MARK LAWSON, HR DIRECTOR. CAN YOU HEAR ME? SO OUR $5,000 THAT WE'VE ADDED TO OUR RECRUITMENT BUDGET IS BASICALLY FOR SWAG.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TIME WITH THE NEW ERP SYSTEM TO ATTEND MORE JOB FAIRS.

AND WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT AND COMPETE WITH OTHER AGENCIES AND OTHER PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYERS.

WE HAVE BEEN UP TO THIS POINT USING WELLNESS ITEMS THAT WERE LEFT OVER, BUT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE WELLNESS FUNDS FOR THAT GOING FORWARD. SO THE ONLY WAY FOR US TO PURCHASE ANY TYPE OF RECRUITMENT MATERIALS WOULD BE TO ADD TO THE BUDGET.

GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. OF COURSE. MR. BARBER. GOOD EVENING. YOU GUYS. TAKE IT EASY ON US.

WE DON'T. WE DON'T COME MUCH TO THESE THINGS.

SO PROCUREMENT DOESN'T HAVE MANY REQUESTS. SO BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY BECAUSE WE'RE AT A CAPACITY ISSUE.

IF YOU GUYS EVER BEEN TO OUR OFFICES. IT'S ORIGINALLY INTENDED FOR SIX FOUR.

OKAY. YEAH. SO WE'RE YEAH, WE'RE WE'RE STARTING TO GET IN THERE.

SO THIS IS KUDOS TO THE PARKS AND FACILITIES TEAM.

THEY'VE BEEN CREATIVE IN TRYING TO MAKE SPACE.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A LOT OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND FINANCE. SO THIS IS OUR REQUEST TO POTENTIALLY EXPAND IF WE NEED TO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY RIGHT NOW. WELL, AND PART OF THAT EQUATION IS PERHAPS THE THEY MOVE TO BUILDING E BECAUSE THAT THAT OTHER BUILDING SHOULD, SHOULD BE PD'S IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING SO THAT THAT YOU SAID IT,

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SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY BE LOOKING AT.

INSTEAD OF MISALIGNING FUNDS TODAY. LOOK AT HOW WE GIVE THAT ENTIRE BUILDING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THEM TO RETROFIT, GET OUT OF THEIR CRAMPED SITUATION, AND THEN MAXIMIZE THE SPACE THAT WE DO HAVE HERE ON CAMPUS AS OPPOSED TO TRYING TO FIT EVERYONE AND AND RECONSTRUCT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO RECONSTRUCT, WE SHOULD RECONSTRUCT THAT BUILDING TO FIT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THEN LET'S SEE HOW WE COULD WORK ON THAT EMPTY SHELL OR MOVE EVEN LEGISLATORS.

I'VE SAID THIS OFTEN COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE OFFICE SPACE AS WELL.

I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THAT OFFICE SPACE. AND SO THAT SHOULD BE PART OF THE EQUATION TOO.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD NEED THAT, BUT CERTAINLY MOVING PEOPLE AROUND, I DON'T KNOW.

I GOT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON THAT DOESN'T WANT OFFICE SPACE.

I JUST, I IT'S A RARE IT'S RARELY THAT I RUN INTO COUNCIL MEMBERS.

LIKE I RAN INTO COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN ON THE WAY OUT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S OF AS MUCH USE AS IT WOULD BE AS IT WOULD FOR OUR STAFF.

THAT'S FULL TIME. SO I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING OUT FOR US, BUT WE WE LADONNA, IS GREAT IN REGARDS TO WORKING OUR SCHEDULE FOR THAT ONE OFFICE, SO I'M GOOD WITH IT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN WANTS TO WEIGH IN.

YEAH. YES, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT SINCE SINCE PROCUREMENT, I BELIEVE, WON THE THE CHRISTMAS DECORATION COMPETITION.

THEY SHOULD PROBABLY GET FIRST DIBS ON AN OFFICE.

THAT'S GREAT. THAT'S A GOOD INCENTIVE PLAN, I GUESS.

BUT ANYWAY, PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS INSTEAD OF RETROFITTING ANYMORE, WHY NOT JUST RETROFIT IT FOR PD AND MOVE THEM OVER TO BUILDING E THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE CONVERSATION SHOULD BE.

ALL RIGHT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. WHO'S NEXT? MA'AM. THAT'S IT. OKAY. AWESOME. DEPUTY MAYOR.

YEAH. JUST SOME SOME FINAL QUESTIONS. OVERALL, GOING BACK TO THE POTENTIAL AGE CONTINGENCY.

IS THAT A WISE IDEA TO TO STAY THE NUMBER? RIGHT.

OKAY, GOOD. SO WE'RE NOT DOING THAT. WE WE HAVE TO BARGAIN IN GOOD FAITH, AND.

YEAH. PLEASE DON'T. LET'S NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. PERFECT. I HAVE GUARDRAILS ON BUDGET NUMBERS, BUT, YEAH, WE NEED WE NEED TO NOT HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT, SIR.

THANKS. THANKS FOR REMEMBERING. THAT WAS A WHILE AGO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND AND DEPUTY MAYOR, I JOKE WITH YOU, BUT NO, THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. SO I DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT WE JUST LEARNED THROUGH THROUGH THAT PROCESS BY HAVING EVERYBODY COME UP.

SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS I JUST WANT SOME CLARITY ON THE TOP TENS, MAYBE FROM FROM MR. MORTON, ACTUALLY. SO EVERY DEPARTMENT KIND OF JUST WE HAD OUR, OUR PRIORITY ONE ITEMS, BUT THEN WE HAD OUR, OUR TOP TEN OTHERS IS, ARE THESE ITEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE LOOKED AT AND LOOKED AT OUR FUNDING AND WE THINK THAT THERE'S BUDGETING FOR ALL OF THEM. ARE THESE ITEMS THAT YOU WANT COUNCIL TONIGHT TO KIND OF SAY WHAT WE LIKE MORE THAN OTHERS? WHAT IS THE EXACT PURPOSE OF PRESENTING THESE TOP TEN TO US TONIGHT? SO INFORMATION IN AND OF ITSELF IS SYMMETRICAL AND IT'S VALUE NEUTRAL.

SO THE IDEA TONIGHT WAS TO GIVE YOU A VALUE NEUTRAL INFORMATION IN OF ITSELF IS VALUE NEUTRAL AND IT'S SYMMETRICAL.

SO THE IDEA TONIGHT WAS TO GIVE YOU THE DATA TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION, YOU KNOW.

MY GOAL IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS HAS BEEN TRYING TO CONNECT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE HAVE IN STRATEGIC PLANS, TRYING TO CONNECT THE PRIORITIES WE HAVE IN DEPARTMENTAL PLANS, TRYING TO CONNECT THE PRIORITY ONES, THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, TOP FIVE PRIORITIES AND ASSETS, AS YOU'VE SAID.

AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THIS STANDPOINT AS AN INFORMATIONAL TOOL FOR ME AND HOPEFULLY FOR YOU, IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT.

I THINK A PICTURE EMERGES IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE DATA, AGAIN, NOT MAKING A VALUE JUDGMENT, THAT THE REQUESTS OUTWEIGH ANY AVAILABLE FUNDING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE.

IT'S JUST THAT'S THE REALITY. SET NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO IS THEN BECOMES THE DISCERNMENT PIECE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE SPENDING THE TIME TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT TO GET FEEDBACK, WHY WE'RE HEARING FROM THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHY WE'RE SPENDING. I'M SPENDING SO MUCH TIME GOING THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUDGETS AND AGAIN, ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND BARRIERS. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD IT.

THERE'S A TRACTOR THAT'S 10 OR 12 YEARS OLD. IT WAS A $40,000 PURCHASE ASSET.

AND WE SPENT I THINK THEY SAID $127,000 MAINTAINING IT.

WE'VE GOT CABLES THAT COULD COME DOWN IN INTERSECTIONS IN THE NEXT STORM EVENT. SO I THINK PART OF IT IS EDUCATION FOR YOU AS A COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT OF NEEDS.

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I SEE IT HERE. THERE'S NOTHING NEW. ARE WE SPENDING MONEY WISELY? ARE WE SPENDING OUT OF OUR LANES? ARE WE GOING FOR THINGS THAT WE DON'T NEED OR WANT? I THINK YOU'RE SEEING THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS THAT ARE DEFINITELY NOT WANTS. THEY'RE DEFINITELY NOT NICE TO HAVES. YOU HAVE TO RESOLVE AND TAKE CARE OF. AND SO THE CHALLENGE IN THIS NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR YOU, FOR ME, FOR STAFF IS TO GET CREATIVE ON IDEAS.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD SOME VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETINGS. ONE ESPECIALLY JUST RECENTLY WITH FIRE.

I'VE HAD SEVERAL WITH POLICE, WITH OTHER DEPARTMENT HEADS.

WHERE ARE EXISTING NEW REVENUE. SOMEONE BROUGHT IT UP TONIGHT.

BRILLIANT. WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION. CAN YOU USE INTERMEDIATE STAFFING DELAYS? IF WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO FILL FOR A DEFINED PERIOD OF TIME, CAN THAT BE USED TO ADVANCE PRIORITIES? WHAT IS THE WISDOM BEHIND THAT? WE TALKED ABOUT INCREMENTAL PURCHASING ON FIRE ASSETS.

SO SO OUR GOAL NOW IS TO TRY TO GO BACK. I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS.

AND WHEN I SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD, INDEPENDENTLY, NOT YOU AS A COUNCIL, BUT ME AND YOU AND US WITH STAFF INDEPENDENTLY AS WE START TO PROGRAM IN SOME SOLUTIONS. AND SO I THINK NOW YOU HAVE SOME TIME TO DIGEST THE DATA, THE INFORMATION, THE THINGS YOU'VE HEARD. THAT'S WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO, A COUNCIL MEMBER AND AND OUR GOAL, I THINK, IS TO COME BACK WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING AS A, A CONTINUUM SET OF PRIORITIES THAT MAKE SENSE IN A STRATEGIC ORDER OF PURCHASING OR FUNDS ALLOCATION AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CONTEMPLATE THAT WITH YOU ALL, AND THEN, OF COURSE, BRING IT BACK TO THAT FIRST BUDGET MEETING IN JULY FOR A VERY SIMILAR EXERCISE THAT WE JUST DID, BUT WITH A LITTLE MORE REFINEMENT, WE'LL HAVE THE COUNTY CERTIFIED.

WE SHOULD WE WE HAVE THE FIRST DRAFT. I JUST GOT IT TODAY AT 4:00 TONIGHT.

IT'S NOT BEEN REVIEWED. WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FINAL.

I GAVE SOME GUARDRAILS WHEN I WAS ASKED WHAT WE THOUGHT GENERAL FUND REVENUES WOULD BE.

EXCLUDING ANY ADDITIONAL BUDGET SCRUBS. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A LOT OF MONEY, SO SO, SO HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. BUT THAT'S THE CHALLENGE OF THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

OUTSTANDING. OKAY. YEAH. AND SO ANOTHER QUESTION BACK TO THE TO ALL OF OUR FULL TIME EQUIVALENCIES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE VACANT. SO JUST JUST FOR THE PUBLIC AND SO THAT EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE, IF YOU HAVE A FULL TIME EQUIVALENCY, EVEN IF IT'S VACANT, THAT SALARY IS STILL BUDGETED FOR THE RESIDENTS OR BEEN TAXED FOR.

AND WE HAVE THAT MONEY WAITING TO HIRE THAT PERSON, RIGHT? THEORETICALLY, YES WE SHOULD. AND JUST RECALL, THOUGH, FOR YOUR THINKING, AS YOU'RE AS WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE COMING TO YOU NEXT IS GENERAL FUND MONEY IS ONE ONE IDEATION OF THAT.

AND WE MAY HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY TO REPRIORITIZE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS. NOW WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VACANT FTES THAT MAY BE CONTRACTUAL, THAT MONEY MAY BE AVAILABLE BUT NOT TOUCHABLE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VACANCIES THAT ARE IN AN ENTERPRISE FUND, WHETHER IT BE THE BILLING DEPARTMENT, UTILITY OR SIMILAR, THAT MONEY PROBABLY CAN'T BE REPRIORITIZED IN MEANINGFUL WAYS TOWARDS OTHER THINGS, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING INTERNALLY.

ALL RIGHT. AND OKAY, AND SO IN THE FUTURE BUDGET MEETINGS, WE'RE GOING TO EVENTUALLY SEE A WHOLE ROUGH DRAFT OF THE BUDGET, AND IT'S GOING TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN IT. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I'M THINKING OF, WELL, TWO OF THE THINGS I'M THINKING OF THAT WE DIDN'T SEE TONIGHT, BUT AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS THIS IS MORE EDUCATIONAL ABOUT EACH DEPARTMENT.

BUT SOME OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SEE IS, IS OUR DEBT AND WHY WE HAVE IT AND HOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH MONEY IS BEING NEEDED TO SET ASIDE FOR THE DEBT EVERY YEAR.

AND THEN ALSO OUR, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS LIKE OUR ROAD WIDENING AND OUR AND OUR INTERSECTION WIDENING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE THESE ARE THESE ARE GREAT EDUCATIONAL THINGS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT ALSO LIKE WE I THINK EVERY ONE OF US SAID FOR THE MOST PART, OUR TOP PRIORITY IS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT.

A ROAD WIDENING, SOME INTERSECTION WIDENING, SOME OF THE THINGS.

SO WE NEED BUDGETING FOR THAT. AND AGAIN I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO COME UP IN THE FUTURE.

BUT FOR FUTURE YEARS PROBABLY THAT STUFF SHOULD PROBABLY ALSO BE INCLUDED FOR THE INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES IN THIS BUDGET MEETING, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THAT'S OUR TOP PRIORITY. AND I WANT TO LOOK AT THESE AND SAY, WELL, IF I DON'T SEE ANY ROAD WIDENING PROJECTS AND I'VE GOT 11 MILLION FOR FIRE AND 9 MILLION FOR FOR PARKS, I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M LESS LIKELY TO TO LIKE THAT AND I WANT TO SEE MORE OF THE ROAD WIDENING.

SO BUT IF WE COULD SEE IT ALL IN ONE NIGHT AND IN ONE PICTURE, IT CAN KIND OF ALL MAKE MORE SENSE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. YES. AND THEN THE LAST THING I'VE GOT IS, I THINK RIGHT BEFORE YOU CAME ON BOARD, THE STATE SENT OUT A LETTER TO ALL MUNICIPALITIES REQUESTING THAT WE, I THINK, VOLUNTARILY JOIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA'S DODGE EFFORT.

AND SO I, I TALKED TO MR. MORGAN ABOUT IT, AND HE SAID THAT WE RECEIVED THE LETTER, AND I MEANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIM AND ASK MORE, BUT I JUST AND HE SAID, WE RESPONDED, BUT I JUST KIND OF ASSUMED THAT WE WERE GOING TO, THAT THE RESPONSE WOULD BE, WE'RE PARTICIPATING. BUT THE RECENT LIST THAT I SAW OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE AGREED TO PARTICIPATE, WE ARE NOT ON IT. SO I'M CURIOUS WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO TO GET ON THAT?

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BUT THEN ON THAT POINT BETWEEN THAT AND POSSIBLY THE FUTURE ECONOMY WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SEE, I THINK, WELL, IN THE STATE OF THE STATE RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF PROPERTY TAXES, THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TO DO THINGS TO, TO ADJUST THEM, BUT IT MIGHT TURN INTO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

WE HAVE NO IDEA. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE PREDICTING A BUDGET THAT IS GOING TO BE SMALLER IN THE COMING YEARS, NOT LARGER. SO WITH THAT SAID WHAT I KIND OF WANT TO SEE IS NOT THAT WE EVEN GO INTO NEXT YEAR AT THE SAME LEVEL.

I WOULD CHALLENGE YOU, MR. MORTON, TO CHALLENGE YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO, EVEN IF IT'S HALF A PERCENT OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S A SMALL NUMBER, TO START LOOKING FOR CREATIVE SOLUTIONS, TO START REDUCING THEIR BUDGET AND BEING ABLE TO TO TAKE THAT IF WE START TAKING HIGHER HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS, NO PROPERTY TAX OR IF THE MARKET GOES IN A WAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO COLLECT AS MANY PROPERTY TAXES.

SO, ABSOLUTELY. SO I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN YOU SAID DEBT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEBT AND DEBT SERVICE.

OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN IN TERMS OF THAT WE MAY WANT TO PULL UP THAT SLIDE.

YOU KNOW, THE THE SLIDE. YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT PRESENTATION FOR THAT.

YEAH. GO AHEAD PULL IT UP. SO SO WE ARE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS I THINK THE BUILDING TREND AT LEAST FROM THE OBJECTIVE NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING QUARTERLY.

IT'S IT'S ALREADY IN SOME STATE OF SLOWDOWN THAT'S GOING TO DRAMATICALLY IMPACT OUR REVENUE.

FROM WHAT I'M SEEING EARLY ON, FROM WHAT OUR REVENUES ARE RELYING ON FOR THE GAIN, IT'S A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION. AND AS THAT NEW CONSTRUCTION DECLINES AND IT IS IN A PERIOD OF DECLINE, IT DOES HAVE AN OUTSIZED NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR FUTURE REVENUES.

SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT. SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE'S YOUR YOUR YOUR MILEAGE.

AND JUST BY VIRTUE OF THE WAY THE REVENUE IS DESIGNED, IT'S BEEN IN A CONTINUAL STATE OF DECLINE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE BETTER PART OF TEN YEARS. AND IT JUST CONTINUES TO DECLINE OUR OBJECTIVE ABILITY TO MEET THE CHALLENGES, THE NEEDS AND THE REQUIREMENTS OF OPERATING THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS UP IN FURTHER DETAIL.

BUT YEAH, WE DEFINITELY ARE FACING MORE AUSTERITY BY DESIGN OF OF THE BUDGET, THE STRUCTURAL BUDGET REVENUE THAN, THAN NOT. I DON'T I DON'T SEE A, YOU KNOW, A WINDFALL EVEN IF, EVEN IF THE MILLAGE OR THE ASSESSED VALUES, LET'S SAY, WERE DECLINED, YOU KNOW, THE MILLAGE WOULD MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE STAGNANT OR WE'RE TECHNICALLY IN A DECLINING REVENUE STREAM NOT EVEN WITHSTANDING, TO YOUR POINT SALES TAX CUTS, YOU KNOW, OTHER FUTURE REVENUE, STATE SHARE CUTS THAT WE ALL ASSUME ARE COMING.

YEAH. GO AHEAD. YEAH. AND SO THIS DOES NOT OBVIOUSLY REFLECT THE 2026 NUMBERS YET.

I KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN MY PRESENTATIONS OR IF YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO GO BACK FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, I, I HAVE MENTIONED THAT DEPENDING ON THE NEW CONSTRUCTION VALUATION, WHICH IS EXEMPT FROM THE 3% CAP IN THE FIRST CALENDAR YEAR MY ESTIMATE THAT EVENTUALLY WE WILL NOT BE ONLY AT ROLLBACK, BUT WE WILL BE BELOW ROLLBACK.

SO ROLLBACK ESSENTIALLY MEANS THAT YOU ARE COLLECTING THE SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE.

OF COURSE, THAT FIRST YEAR OF NEW TAXABLE VALUE IS EXEMPT.

BASED ON THE THE BECAUSE I DO GET THE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE, THAT AMOUNT IS DECLINING.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE BANKING ON, RIGHT. SO YOU'RE BANKING ON THAT NEW REVENUE.

HOWEVER IT IS WHILE IT MAY NOT BE IN 2026 WITH ANY KIND OF PRELIMINARY DATA THAT THAT I HAVE SEEN MY GUESS IS THAT IF SOMETHING DOESN'T CHANGE, POSSIBLY IN 2027, YOU'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY BEING BELOW ROLLBACK IN THE COUNTY. I BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ONE MUNICIPALITY WHICH IS AT ROLLBACK.

USUALLY THEY ARE TAXING AUTHORITIES OR MUNICIPALITIES THAT DON'T HAVE A LOT OF GROWTH OR DON'T NEED A LOT OF GROWTH.

THEY'RE OKAY WITH CONTINUING TO COLLECT AT THAT SAME LEVEL.

NONE ARE BELOW ROLLBACK. DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES IN THE STATE ARE.

GENERALLY IT'S NOT FOR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE THAT KIND OF GROWTH NEED WHERE THE GENERAL FUND IS 75% OF THE GENERAL FUND IS TAXATION. BUT MY PROJECTION IS IT IS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER.

SO I BELIEVE THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, YOU ARE APPROXIMATELY 0.4 AWAY FROM ROLLBACK.

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COUNCILMAN HAMMER, OR DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, SIR? THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN HAMMER. CAN EITHER OR. MR. MORTON, CAN YOU ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN 23 AND 24, WHY THE MILLAGE RATE STAYED THE SAME.

SO I SO I CAN ACTUALLY JUSTIFY THAT. SO WHEN WE WENT FROM 23 TO 24 THE COUNCIL AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME CHOSE TO EXCEED THE CAP THROUGH AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.

SO AT THAT TIME, TO MY RECOLLECTION IT WAS DUE TO FIRE AND SAFETY NEEDS THAT NEEDED TO BE ADDED.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STAFFING. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS.

I HAD WORKED WITH BOTH THE CHIEFS AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME LOOKING AT JUST RESPONSE TIMES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY COMPARED TO FLORIDA STANDARDS OR FLORIDA NORMS, NOT JUST SURROUNDING CITIES, BUT IN THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA.

AND THEY CAN PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO THE EXACT NUMBERS, BUT THAT WAS THE DECISION TO MAINTAIN THAT RATE AT THAT PARTICULAR YEAR.

AND THAT'S WHEN COUNCIL AT THAT TIME CHOSE TO EXCEED THE CAP THROUGH FOR YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ONE VOTE.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED SPECIFICALLY FOR ROADS IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN AGAIN? SO IN THE, IN THE CHARTER, IT SAYS THAT IT'S DEEMED FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES.

WHAT THAT IS THAT WE USUALLY WORK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AT THAT TIME AND WE WRITE UP A RESOLUTION WHAT THOSE EMERGENCY PURPOSES OR EMERGENCY ORDERS WOULD BE. AND THEN IF THE CITY ATTORNEY DEEMS THAT IT'S LEGAL AGAINST WHAT THE CHARTER STATES, THEN THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE. THANK YOU. OKAY.

THANK YOU. AND TO THAT POINT MR. MORTON, YOU AND I, WE'VE DISCUSSED REGARDING IMPACT FEES AND IN PARTICULAR PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.

I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW THAT THERE WAS, LEGISLATION THAT THAT WOULD PREEMPT THAT THOUGHT PROCESS.

HAVE YOU DISCOVERED ANYTHING OF US GOING DOWN THAT RANGE OR US THAT AS AN OPTION? I CAN TAKE ONE STEP BACK REAL QUICK, BUT I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. YES, MR. MAYOR, SO THE REASON I BRING THIS UP IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF MY FIRST THOUGHTS WHEN I MET FIRE, THE OTHER THE OTHER A COUPLE DAYS BACK AND I SAID, HEY, I SEE THE NUMBERS. MAYBE WE CAN DO A THREE YEAR ROLL.

BUT A TWO YEAR FISCAL SINCE THEY DELIVER THE VEHICLES IS TWO YEARS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M REMISS TO COUNT ON FUTURE REVENUES WHEN I SEE THE STATE OF DECLINE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE REVENUES WILL BE THERE TO COMPLETE THE PURCHASE.

GENERALLY, THOSE DOWN PAYMENTS OR DEPOSITS ARE NONREFUNDABLE. SO WE START TO GET OURSELVES IN A PICKLE. RIGHT. SO AND I SAY THIS SO YOU GUYS CAN BE THINKING THE SAME THINGS AS WE TALK THIS NEXT MONTH. IN THIS NEXT MONTH. SO YES, WE'VE LOOKED AT SEVERAL OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO US IN TERMS OF THEN WE'RE STILL GOING TO DO THAT WORK THROUGH JULY. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT ACCELERATING, AS I BELIEVE IT WAS PASCO COUNTY, AND I KNOW FLAGLER COUNTY DID THE COLLECTION OF THEIR SCHEDULED IMPACT FEES.

AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION NO, I'VE STILL GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS OUT TO SEE IF IT'S STILL POSSIBLE IN TERMS OF OUR STUDY.

DOES THE CONSULTANT FEEL THAT THERE WAS ANY JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT EMERGENCY DECLARATION OR INITIAL ANALYSIS? AND THEN, YES, TO YOUR POINT, THERE'S POTENTIAL LEGISLATION THAT MAY JUST PREEMPT THE WHOLE CONVERSATION AND NOT EVEN ALLOW US TO TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD IN THAT VENUE.

I DID PUT THOSE CALLS IN TODAY TO SOME COLLEAGUES SPEAKING WITH SOME MORE COLLEAGUES TOMORROW WHEN I, WHEN I'M AT FCC PUT A CALL IN TO ONE OF OUR STATE LEGISLATORS, I KNOW TO SAY, WHAT IS IT? IS IT LIKELY TO PASS? AND DOES IT JUST CUT US OUT OF THE PROCESS? PROCESS INITIALLY. AND JUST IN FAIRNESS, IT WAS LATE TODAY THAT I, THAT I SENT OUR CITY ATTORNEY AN EMAIL.

WE WERE TALKING BACK AND FORTH A LITTLE BIT. RIGHT? YEAH. RIGHT. RIGHT. THERE'S THERE'S NO PHASING FOR PLEASE.

WE DIDN'T SEE WE DIDN'T INCREASE THE IMPACT FEES MORE THAN 25%.

THERE'S ONLY PHASING FOR FIRE. FIRE. SO ANYWAY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'RE WE'RE HOT ON THAT TRAIL TO SEE IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

AND I'M HOPEFUL WITH THE NEXT FEW DAYS, WE'LL HAVE SOME SOLID DIRECTION. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. AND, DEPUTY MAYOR, AND JUST THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT'S GONE ON HIS END FOR RESEARCH, BUT IS IS REVISED IN THE NEXUS OF THE OF THE IMPACT FEES AND HOW THE MONEY IS ALLOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I THINK RIGHT NOW IS BY ZIP CODE. AND I FEEL LIKE THE NEXUS IS ARE TOO SMALL AND IT SHOULD BE BROADER AND ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY ON HOW THAT MONEY IS SPENT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO EVERYONE ON THIS DAIS KNOWS HOW I FEEL ABOUT IMPACT FEES.

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RIGHT? FINANCING THAT SMART GROWTH. SO WE'VE DISCUSSED DEBT SERVICES, IMPACT FEES AND THE SHELL WE'VE DISCUSSED ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.

I HOPE THAT'S ENOUGH INFORMATION. RIGHT NOW I'M GOING TO ASK ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK.

RAISE YOUR HAND AND STEP FORWARD. I'LL. I'LL LET THE YOUNG LADY BEFORE YOU, MASTER CHIEF.

SINCE YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY RAISED YOUR HANDS UP AT THE SAME TIME.

GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AND STAFF AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'M SUSAN CONNELLY. I'M NOT TALL. AND FIRST, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR THE MOST ROBUST DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET I'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN COMING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WHICH IS MANY YEARS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK LARRY.

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY YOUR LAST NAME BECAUSE I'M GOING TO MESS IT UP. I'M ANGELA COLLINS AND THIS NEW DEPARTMENT.

I SO APPRECIATE HAVING FACES AND NAMES AND OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MANAGING THE MONEY.

AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE NEW ORDER THAT YOU'RE DOING, THE BUDGET AND THE EMPHASIS ON TRANSPARENCY AND EFFICIENCY AND COLLABORATION. THANK YOU ALL. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A REQUEST AND THAT IS WITH THE ASK PALM BAY HAVE ANY OF YOU USED THAT? I HAVE, YOU WOULDN'T THINK IT, WOULD YOU? BUT I HAVE BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS. AND THESE AND THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS I ASKED TONIGHT.

WHAT IS OUR WHO IS OUR CURRENT CITY MANAGER? I'D LIKE YOU TO KNOW WE HAVE A CURRENT INTERIM CITY MANAGER NAMED SCOTT MORGAN, WHO IS HEAD OF OUR GROWTH DEPARTMENT.

MITT. I DO NOT HAVE THAT INFORMATION. PROVIDE ME THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET. WHAT I GOT WAS THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 PROPOSED BUDGET WITH CHANGES. SUMMARY I DID ASK A QUESTION.

ANOTHER ONE. CONNECT ME TO THE CODE OF CITY ORDINANCES BECAUSE I WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THE COMMISSION COMING UP.

AND I DID IT. I GOT IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST PLEASE.

I GO TO GROK ON X BECAUSE I GET ANSWERS FAST AND EFFICIENT.

I THINK PALM BAY SHOULD BE BETTER THAN GROK. THANK YOU.

AND FOR THE RECORD, LARRY, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME? YOUR LAST NAME? WHAT WAS YOUR HOUSE? THANK YOU, LARRY WOJCIECHOWSKI.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AS ALWAYS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE, WHEN I BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL YEARS AGO, GOT ME IN TROUBLE. I GOT PULLED OVER BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THEY MADE ME STAND OUTSIDE MY VEHICLE FOR 20 MINUTES BECAUSE OF A BURNED OUT TAILLIGHT. HOPEFULLY THAT WON'T HAPPEN THIS TIME, BUT WHEN I SEE A 10% RAISE AUTOMATICALLY BECAUSE OF CONTRACT MAKES ME WELL, I LIKE RAISES BASED ON PERFORMANCE, NOT ON CONTRACT AGREEMENTS WHERE YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY GOING TO SEE IT, I LIKE IT. I LIKE THEM. WARREN. WARREN. EARNED AND SET BY CONTRACT.

DOESN'T DOESN'T NORMALLY FLY. LET'S WORK ON OUR CONTRACTS.

THE NEXT ITEM. I UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS BROUGHT UP, BUT WITH $1.7 MILLION FOR LIGHTING UPGRADE ON THREE BALLPARKS, THAT CAME OUT IN 5.2 MILLION. JUST DON'T HAVE BALL GAMES AT NIGHT.

I SAVED YOU A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT THERE, I SAVED IT.

JUST PLAY DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS AND GO HOME.

DON'T PLAY AT NIGHT. I'LL TRY. I'LL SAVE YOU SOME MONEY.

I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO BE PRACTICAL, YOU KNOW? BUT THE OTHER ONE IS LAST COUNCIL MEETING UNDER CONSENT AGENDA.

THERE WAS $13 MILLION WORTH OF BUDGET DISCUSSION.

OF COURSE, WASN'T BROUGHT UP TO THE PUBLIC TO DISCUSS YET.

I HEARD TONIGHT, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A VERY GOOD IDEA OF ADDRESSING YEAR ROUND BUDGETING, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO IT NOW,

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SO WE'RE DOING BUDGETING YEAR LONG. I LIKE THIS NEW APPROACH OF SETTING IT A YEAR IN ADVANCE.

IF YOU DIDN'T MEET IT, THE FAULT LIES ON YOU, RIGHT? THE NEXT ONE WAS I VERY HAPPY WITH YOU BRINGING UP THE FACT THAT OUR TAX REVENUE MIGHT BE DECREASING AND LOOKING AT THAT.

CAN I SEE THAT AS A BIG CONCERN COMING UP? BECAUSE WE'RE COUNTING ON EVERYTHING GETTING MORE AND MORE COMING IN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING LESS AND LESS, I THINK.

PLANNING AHEAD. I LIKE THAT LAST ONE WAS MR. ROBINSON.

THAT POOR GUY, HE GETS BOUNCED AROUND FROM POINT A TO POINT B, HE'S BEEN IN YOUR CHAIR AND NOW IN THIS CHAIR AND HE WAS IN THAT CHAIR.

POOR MAN'S. YOU NEED TO GIVE HIM A PAY RAISE IF YOU'RE OVERWORKING HIM THAT MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'LL LET DOCTOR ROBINSON KNOW OF YOUR COMMENTS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.