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HOWEVER, THE FOUR OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE AGENCIES WERE NOT FUNDED AT THE FULL AMOUNT THAT THEY HAD ASKED FOR IN THEIR APPLICATIONS.

[NEW BUSINESS]

SO I EVENLY SPLIT. I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF A DOLLAR, SO I EVENLY SPLIT ALL OF THE THE IT'S AND INCREASED ALL OF THE THE NON PROFITS BY $1,411.

I THINK PARKS AND REC GOT 1410. SO THAT TO ME GAVE EVERYBODY THAT WAS LEFT THAT WE COULD GIVE MONEYS TO AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND INCREASE THEM EQUALLY.

I TALKED WITH PARKS AND REC AND ASKED THEM OUT OF THE THREE PROJECTS THAT THAT WE HAD ALREADY FUNDED.

WAS THERE ANY PROJECT THAT THEY COULD USE MORE MONIES ON? AND THEY SAID, YES, WE COULD WE COULD. WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH SIDEWALKS AT DRISCOLL PARK.

THEY'RE ONLY FOUR FEET. WE WOULD LIKE TO INCREASE THEM TO A SIX FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.

SO MONIES WERE GIVEN TO THAT PROJECT. SO THAT PROJECT WENT, AS YOU CAN SEE, FROM 37,000 TO 71,004 52. WE INCREASED ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE WE'RE ALLOWED TO, TO GO UP TO 20%. AND SO WE TOOK THAT TO 20% OF THE ENTIRE ALLOCATION.

WE THEN REDUCED THE ACTIVITY DELIVERY COSTS. AND GAVE PART OF THAT MONEY TO DRISCOLL PARK.

WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN STILL OPERATE WITHIN THAT AMOUNT AND AND HELP DRISCOLL PARK GET THE SIDEWALKS.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE DID. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, ON THE HOME SIDE, OUR HOME ALLOCATION WAS REDUCED BY NOT MUCH, BUT IT WAS REDUCED BY $1,336.67.

SO THE NEW AMOUNT IS 225,008, 97, 49 THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY.

WHAT CHANGED ON THAT AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? PUBLIC HEARING ONE CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY CHANGED THE PROJECT. AND WE WERE ASKED AS A STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE RECOMMENDING IN THE FUTURE THAT WE DO ALL OF THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

WHEN RECOMMENDING A PROJECT TO TO THE ADVISORY BOARD AND AND TO COUNCIL WHAT THEY FOUND OUT WAS THE APARTMENTS. IT JUST WASN'T A GOOD FIT FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS.

AND THE AREA THAT THE APARTMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN LOCATED IN WAS A HIGH CRIME AREA.

AND SO COUNCIL HAD ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. AND IT JUST IT JUST WASN'T A GOOD SITUATION TO PUT THE SENIORS IN A COMMERCIAL AREA. AND THAT THE 7-ELEVEN, I GUESS THERE STAYS OPEN 24 HOURS A DAY, 24 HOURS. SO IT JUST WASN'T A GOOD FIT. SO COUNCIL THEN ASKED STAFF TO BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION.

AND SO WHAT WE JUST RECOMMENDED WAS TO, SINCE OUR WAITING LIST IS SO LONG, IS TO SELECT SOME SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE ON OUR WAITING LIST FOR THE HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM.

SO THIS WAY THINGS CAN MOVE ALONG. OUR FUNDING WON'T BE HELD UP AND WE CAN STILL MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE WILL IN THE FUTURE. MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE WHEN WE ARE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO BOTH THE ADVISORY BOARD AND TO AND TO COUNCIL.

SO THAT CHANGED. IT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE HOW MANY REHABS WE CAN DO.

IT WILL PROBABLY BE 2 OR 3 THAT WE CAN DO UNDER THE HOME PROGRAM, BUT THAT WILL ALSO HELP REDUCE OUR WAITING LIST.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?

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ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS CARTER? YEAH, I'D LIKE TO UNDER STAND HOW IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THIS IS UNSAFE. WAS THIS JUST SOMEBODY SAID, OH, AND HOW IS THIS DETERMINED? I MEAN, THIS JUST SEEMS SOMEWHAT ARBITRARY. NO, I COUNCILMAN JOHNSON IS ON THE LINE.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE WANT TO ANSWER THAT. MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU.

COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL PERSPECTIVE? MR. JOHNSON, I CAN HEAR HER CLEARLY. OH, HE CAN'T HEAR ME.

MR. JOHNSON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.

OKAY. MISS PETER IS ASKING IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME INFORMATION OR ENLIGHTEN US ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PREVIOUS HOME PROJECT FOR THE SENIOR APARTMENT COMPLEX. MISS CARTER SAID THAT COUNCIL CHANGED THE THE PROJECT.

SO THAT WAS A VERY DETAILED AND IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION.

AND ACTUALLY, IT KIND OF GOES TO THE POINT OF MY AEC MEETING WITH OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

OUR COUNCIL REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO COMPROMISE FOR JUST MEDIOCRE PROJECTS.

TYPICALLY, AND I KNOW THIS BOARD, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR YEARS LIKE YOURSELF.

CHAIR. CHAIRWOMAN. WE USUALLY JUST THE PROJECTS COME TO US AND WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS OFFERED.

LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. WHERE OTHER CITIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE LIKE, NO, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR CITY, AND WE WILL NOT COMPROMISE FOR ANYTHING LESS.

US. AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ON, YOU KNOW, CHURCHES STEPPING UP.

NONPROFIT CHURCHES AND CHURCHES STEPPING UP IN REGARDS TO HOUSING.

HOMELESS ARE COMING TOGETHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD.

GETTING ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS ON THE SAME PAGE INSTEAD OF PIECEMEAL, WHICH HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THE PAST DECADES.

IT'S JUST BEEN PIECEMEAL AND AFTER PIECEMEAL AGAIN, THE SITUATION HASN'T GOTTEN ANY BETTER.

IT'S GOTTEN WORSE EVEN WITH THE INCREASE IN FUNDING.

SO I UNDERSTOOD THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS OF MAKING SURE AS AS MANY DOLLARS AS WE CAN GET TO THE END USERS AND MAKING SURE IT'S NOT JUST GOING TOWARDS ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OR ELSEWHERE AND GETTING INTO A MEETING THAT WE HAD THIS PAST MONDAY WITH ALL THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

THEY SHARE THE SAME REGARD AS WELL, ALONG WITH THE LIVE LOCAL ACT.

SO I'LL GET INTO THAT AS WELL SINCE I BROUGHT IT UP.

BUT WITH THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SEEING AS DEVELOPERS ARE JUST INTENTIONALLY GOING AFTER THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS TO REZONE IT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHERE THAT'S EATING UP A HUGE CHUNK OF CHANGE IN REGARDS TO TAXES AND TAXING THE COMMERCIAL AS OPPOSED TO THE RESIDENTS. SO VERY DETAILED CONVERSATIONS, BUT ONE THAT I'M GLAD YOU ALL ASKED ME TO SPEAK BECAUSE IT TIES TO THIS BOARD AS WELL.

I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT THIS BOARD HAS.

IT'S JUST AS IMPACTFUL AS THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, IN MY OPINION.

REGARDING JUST ECONOMIC GROWTH AND JUST YOU KNOW, THE MAINTENANCE OF LIFE AND JUST IMPROVING LIFE FOR EVERYONE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE EVERY RESIDENT, WHETHER THEY HAVE A HOME OR DON'T HAVE A HOME, SHOULD HAVE A CERTAIN STANDARD OF QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE ON THIS BOARD TO DO. BUT WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO JUST COMPROMISE BECAUSE OF CERTAIN CERTAIN BOARDS HAVE, I MEAN, CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS THAT COME TO US.

YEAR AFTER YEAR HAVE ASKED FOR FUNDING. BUT ARE WE ASKING OURSELVES, HAVE THEY BEEN MAKING THE BEST USE OF THAT? FUNDING WAS ALLOCATED? SO SORRY TO GET LONG WINDED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I GOT EVERYTHING OUT FROM COUNCIL AND FROM THE LAST MEETING I HAD WITH THE OTHER MUNICIPALITY LEADERS. SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHO ACTUALLY BROUGHT THIS UP AND WHO VOTED AGAINST IT ON THE COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE FRANKLY, I FIND THAT THE EXPLANATION IS INTERESTING, ALTHOUGH NOT REALISTIC, TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NOT ONLY SENIORS, BUT OTHER PEOPLE WITHIN OUR CITY THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY YAMMERING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND WE HAVE DECIDED TO JUST NOT DO THIS BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE AND HAVE SUCCESSFULLY DONE WORK WITH THE CITY.

WHO ISN'T THE EASIEST TO WORK WITH TO BEGIN WITH.

SO IF WE FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS CAPABLE OF MANAGING THROUGH OUR.

I DON'T EVEN WANT TO CALL IT A LABYRINTH. BUT IT IS OKAY.

A LABYRINTH PROCESS TO GO THROUGH AND GAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHIN OUR CITY.

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I WOULD THINK WE WOULD BE MORE EXCITED TO ENCOURAGE THESE PEOPLE, AS OPPOSED TO DISCOURAGE THEM FROM DOING THIS.

NOT TO MENTION THE DISCUSSION, AS I'VE HEARD ON A NATIONAL LEVEL, IS THAT HOUSING IS AT A SHORTAGE AT LIKE 3 MILLION HOMES. LAST NUMBER I HEARD. OKAY. AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE ARE THE 55 AND UP.

I MEAN, I SAW A WHOLE ARTICLE ABOUT THIS, AND AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

YET WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHO MADE THIS DECISION AFTER.

IN WHAT VACUUM? IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT'S BASED ON FACTS.

IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS BASED ON FEELINGS AND AND SOMETHING VERY ARBITRARY.

VERSUS LOOKING AT THE PROJECT, REVIEWING THE COSTS AND DETERMINING A NEED WHICH THERE IS, WHICH WE ALL WERE BASED ON GOING FORWARD IN APPROVING THIS PROJECT. I THINK THE REASON YOU SAID WAS BECAUSE OF SAFETY.

YES. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO.

THEY DENIED IT BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT IT WAS NOT RIGHT FOR SAFETY, BUT ALSO BECAUSE SENIOR CITIZENS WERE GOING TO BE A PART OF A COMMERCIAL STRIP MALL. AND IT JUST. AND WHAT THE NONPROFIT WAS SAYING IS THAT, OKAY, WE'LL BE HERE DURING THE DAY, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING. THEY WEREN'T GOING TO BE THERE AT NIGHT WITH THOSE SENIOR CITIZENS. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THEM IN A STRIP MALL OF A COMMERCIAL STRIP MALL INSTEAD OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BY THEMSELVES AGAIN.

AND SO COUNCIL SAID, WE WE SUPPORT A COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

WE'LL SUPPORT OTHER PROJECTS, BUT WE JUST DON'T THINK THIS ONE IS THE BEST FIT FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.

AND THEN OUR STAFF, WE REALLY HAD TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB. WE'VE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB WHEN WE'RE RECOMMENDING THESE PROJECTS.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU REALLY GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THAT STRIP MALL, IT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME ADDITIONAL LAND BEHIND IT THAT'S OWNED BY THE CITY.

BUT IT WAS THAT LAND WAS PURELY FOR DRAINAGE, THOUGH WE COULD NOT MOVE THEM BEHIND.

THEY WOULD BE ACTUALLY A PART OF A COMMERCIAL STRIP MALL, AND IT JUST WASN'T.

AND THEY WOULD BE AT THE END. IT JUST WASN'T A GOOD FIT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE THE IT CAME DOWN TO. WHEN WE'RE PUTTING SENIORS IN, THEY WANT TO WANT WE WANT TO PUT SENIORS INTO QUALITY, SAFE, DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THAT DIDN'T MEET THE CRITERIA.

SO SO WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS THAT THE CONCERN HERE RIGHT ON PALM BAY ROAD, BECAUSE I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS.

AND WE HAVE THE CRYSTAL PALACE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN APARTMENT, MULTI-UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

ARE WE NOT GOING TO ALLOW SENIORS TO MOVE IN THERE TO IS THAT AREA UNSAFE? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS BECAUSE I SEE PLANS ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEING REPURPOSED AND UTILIZED FOR HOUSING.

SOMETIMES YOU JUST KIND OF HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX IN ORDER TO SERVE A COMMUNITY.

AND WHILE WE ARE SQUASHING THE NEED TO SERVE OUR 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY, I DON'T SEE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO FIX IT. I ONLY SEE OUTCOMES THAT PRESENT NOTHING.

BUT WE STILL HAVE A PROBLEM. WELL, WHAT WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS AS COUNCIL RECOMMENDED, THE MONIES WILL GO TO SENIOR CITIZENS, BUT IT WILL BE TO RENOVATE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LIVING IN THEIR HOMES TO KEEP THOSE AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO PRESERVE THOSE. AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING AN A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS WITH OUR SHIP FUNDING TO SEE HOW WE CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OUT IN THE FUTURE.

BUT THAT. WELL, THAT'S GOING TO BE IN HOUSE. SO BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT WITH OUR SHIP FUNDING AND WE WILL KEEP AN OPEN ANYONE THAT'S COMING TO US AND WE WE HAVE THE AVAILABLE FUNDS.

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WE'LL LOOK AT HOW WE CAN SERVE THEM. BUT IT WAS JUST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, AND I, I I I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. AND JUST A REMINDER, THIS THIS BODY IS ONLY MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN ANYTHING THAT WE RECOMMEND UP HERE.

UNDERSTOOD. YEAH. BY THE SAME TOKEN, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I AGREE OR BE FEEL THAT THEIR RATIONALE CHANEL COMES FROM ANYTHING FACTUAL OUTSIDE OF A FEELING. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. I THINK IF THERE WAS A SAFETY CONCERN, THEN ANOTHER LOOK SHOULD BE GIVEN TO THAT PROJECT.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT STAFF IS REALLOCATING THOSE FUNDS STILL TO SENIORS TO KEEP THEM IN THEIR HOMES.

I THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A NOTABLE EXPENSE IN A SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I APPRECIATE THAT. THE TAKEAWAY OF THIS WHOLE ISSUE IS THAT STAFF IS GOING TO TAKE A DEEPER DIVE WHEN THEY BRING PROJECTS TO US.

THAT'S THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART. IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE DUE DILIGENCE OR THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE A TOUGHER LOOK BEFORE THEY COME HERE, BECAUSE MR. JOHNSON IS RIGHT. WE'RE WE ARE GIVEN AN APPLICATION, BUT IT TYPICALLY IS PRETTY BRIEF.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COME, YOU KNOW, CRYSTAL PALACE CAME TO US SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ALL THEIR FINANCIAL STUFF TOGETHER.

SO SOMETIMES STUFF COMES TO THIS BOARD AND IT REALLY ISN'T A GOOD FIT AT THE TIME THAT THEY'RE COMING.

SO IF STAFF'S GOING TO TAKE A DEEPER LOOK TO MAKE BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS TO US SO THAT WE CAN MAKE BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN THAT'S A THAT'S A WIN AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SO WE'RE STILL GOING TO SERVE SENIORS JUST AT THIS POINT THIS YEAR.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BUT I UNDERSTOOD AND AND I MAY BE WRONG, BUT SHIFT FUNDS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AVAILABLE TO FOLKS THAT QUALIFY AS THEY WOULD UNDER THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.

SO I'M NOT SEEING HOW WE HAVE DONE ANYTHING NEW, OKAY? WE ARE JUST REALLOCATING FUNDS TO THE SAME THING THAT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.

AND WE'RE NOT CREATING ANY NEW HOMES, WHICH IS THE URGENCY, FRANKLY, BUT THEY NEED SOMEBODY TO APPLY FOR A PROJECT.

SO THAT'S WHAT DENISE IS SAYING, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT OUT AN RFP, THEY'RE GOING TO SOLICIT THOSE PROPOSALS TO GET MORE DEVELOPERS ENGAGED IN THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. IF NOBODY APPLIES TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEN THEN WE'RE LIMITED TO WHERE THOSE FUNDS CAN GO.

IT'S WASN'T AN RFP PUT OUT INITIALLY, WASN'T THAT HOW THIS CAME ABOUT? SO I GUESS I'M JUST CONFUSED. YEAH. SO SHE'S SAYING THAT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK HARDER TO SOLICIT THOSE TYPES OF PROPOSALS IF IF THE BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL IS SAYING THESE ARE THE TYPES OF QUALITY PROJECTS THAT WE WANT TO SEE, THEN THAT'S HOW WE STRUCTURE AN RFP.

AND THEY HAVE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO FACILITATE TO MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS OF THIS PROJECT.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING OUT OF THIS? I MEAN, AT THE BOTTOM LINE, THAT'S WHERE I'M AT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE FOCUS OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO CREATE NEW HOUSING, NOT JUST REHAB.

SO THE POINT HAS KIND OF BEEN MISSED. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE OVERLY DRAMATIC, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED NEW HOUSING. I MEAN, WE REALLY DO. AND EVERY TIME I SEE ANOTHER REPORT THAT TELLS ME THAT THE 55 AND OLDER ARE REALLY THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY AT ODDS.

I JUST I JUST SIT HERE AND I WRING MY. I'M WRINGING MY HANDS.

THAT'S ALL I UNDERSTOOD. SO, YES, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

YES, MA'AM. THE THE FUNDS THAT WERE REALLOCATED TO THE RENOVATIONS OF THE EXISTING SENIOR CITIZENS, HAVE ANY OF THEM STEPPED FORWARD TO SAY THEY WANT THEIR HOMES TO BE RENOVATED? ARE THEY ASKING FOR THAT? THEY HAVE A WAITLIST.

YES. WE'RE WE'RE TAKING THEM ALL THAT PART. WE'RE TAKING THEM OFF OF THE WAITING LIST.

SO, YES, THESE ARE PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST.

THAT WE'VE THAT LONG WAITING LIST THAT WE HAVE AND, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING SENIOR CITIZENS AND LOOKING AT OF THOSE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT WE HAVE, WHICH ONES WE CAN PUT UNDER THE HOME PROGRAM.

OKAY. AND. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PROPOSED ACTION PLAN? SO THE WAITING LIST. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ALL THE FOLKS ON THE WAITING LIST? IS IT FIRST? FIRST IN, FIRST OUT AS FAR AS THAT GOES OR HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE MANAGED? JUST CURIOUS. IT'S FIRST COME, FIRST SERVE. SO AS APPLICANTS APPLY, WE SEND THEM AN EMAIL.

WE ASK THEM PRELIMINARY QUESTIONS. THEY'RE ON OUR WAITING LIST.

AND THEN AS THEY COME UP IN NUMBER, THEN WE GO AND AND SERVE THEM.

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SO FIRST IN, FIRST OUT. THANK YOU. SO THEY HAVE 214 ON THE SHIP WAITING LIST RIGHT NOW.

AND DENISE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. ISN'T IT THEIR PRIORITY? AND THE LIST ALSO HAS TO DO WITH WHEN THEY CAN TURN THEIR PAPERWORK IN, RIGHT? LIKE. YES, IF THEY DO NOT RESPOND. WE WE WE SEND THEM AN EMAIL AND THEN IF THEY DON'T RESPOND AND THEY'RE CALLED.

PERSONALLY CALLED. AND THEN IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, THEN THEY HAD THEM BEEN BEING PUT BACK DOWN ON THE WAITING LIST.

AT THIS POINT I THOSE ONES WOULD NOT BE PUT BACK ON THE WAITING LIST.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REDUCE THE LIST. SO, DENISE, IS THERE A TIME LIMIT FOR THESE FUNDS TO BE UTILIZED FOR THIS REHAB? IS THERE WHAT? IS THERE A TIME LIMIT FOR THESE FUNDS? ALL EVERY GRANT THAT WE WE RECEIVE HAS TIMING ON IT.

THE IDEA IS TO GET THE MONEY OUT TO THE PEOPLE.

SO YES. SO WHEN IS OUR DEADLINE TO GET THESE FUNDS? I THINK HOME HAS WHAT, FIVE YEARS? SO IT'S NOT THAT IT'S AN INTERNAL DEADLINE WHERE WE WILL.

WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THE THE THREE PEOPLE, THE THE 2 OR 3 PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS HOME FUNDING.

WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT THIS YEAR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

DENISE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE ACTION PLAN? OKAY. I'M HEARING NONE. I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ACTION PLAN TO FOR ADOPTION AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ON JULY 3RD.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? I'M HEARING NONE, I VOTE I AND THAT MOTION PASSES.

SO NEXT WE ARE MOVING TO THE TECHNICAL REVISIONS TO THE SHIP LAP PLAN.

THIS IS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM, MISS CARTER. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR APPROVING THE ACTION PLAN.

THANK YOU. IF YOU AND IN YOUR PACKETS. YOU HAD A MEMORANDUM TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE TECHNICAL CHANGES THAT WE MADE, AND WE MADE SOME TECHNICAL CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM.

THE UPCOMING YEAR, WE'LL BE WORKING ON THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN.

WE HAVE TO DO A NEW LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN THAT'S DUE TO THE STATE EVERY THREE YEARS.

AND SO OURS WILL BE EXPIRING NEXT YEAR. SO WE'LL BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD WITH A SCHEDULE AND TALKING ABOUT THE LOCAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE PLAN. IN THE MEANTIME, WE KNEW THAT THERE WERE SOME CHANGES THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE WITH OUR HOUSING PROGRAM.

AND THERE WERE THREE AREAS THAT WAS UPDATED. AND THE TECHNICAL WITH THE TECHNICAL REVISIONS.

ONE WAS TO TAKE THE HOUSING REHABILITATION PROGRAM FROM 75,000 PER HOME TO 100,000 PER HOME, AND THAT'S DUE TO THE HOUSING COST INCREASES, THE MATERIAL MATERIALS FOR MATERIAL AND LABOR COSTS THAT FOR OUR HOUSING REHABS. AND WE COULDN'T DO TOO MUCH ON A HOME WITH 75,000.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO MORE WITH 100,000 SO THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE CHANGES.

THE OTHER CHANGE WAS WE'RE DOING OUR FIRST DEMO DEMOLITION RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND THE LIEN WAS 30 YEARS. AND MOST PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING TO US ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE FAILING AT AFTER AFTER ACTUALLY TEN YEARS. SO WE REDUCED THAT TO 20 YEARS. IT'S THE SAME AS THE COUNTY'S LIEN TERM AND THE CITY OF MELVINS. AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS JUST SOME INCENTIVE HOUSING INCENTIVES THAT THAT WERE THAT NEEDED TO BE CHANGED. AND I THOUGHT ALL OF THAT WAS BROUGHT TO YOU ALL BEFORE THAT WERE DONE THROUGH PALM BAY CODES AND ORDINANCES. AND SO WE JUST WERE UPDATING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD EVERYTHING IN OUR PLAN.

OKAY. DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REVISIONS TO THE EL HAP PLAN?

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I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU. DENISE AND ELENA AND CARMEN.

THIS ALL WAS LAID OUT VERY NICELY, BY THE WAY, AND I WANTED TO.

I LOVE THE LITTLE TAB. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THE TAB, I MEAN, PLEASE.

OKAY. FOR THE FOR THE FOR THE WOMAN WHO NEEDS HER READING GLASSES IN EVERY SPOT.

THAT WAS SUPER HELPFUL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO NO QUESTION ON THE LAP.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE STAFF REPORT FIRST.

BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR NEW MEMBER, PATRICK.

SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT AT THE BEGINNING. WELCOME. IF YOU WANT TO. DO YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF REAL QUICK? YEAH.

MY NAME IS PATRICK MCNALLY. I AM THE APPOINTEE FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

I VOLUNTEERED. SO NOT ALL UNTOLD WAS NOT VOLUNTEERED, I VOLUNTEERED.

SO HAPPY TO BE HERE. I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY MY ENTIRE LIFE, AND JUST TRYING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

EXCELLENT. WELL, WELCOME. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU.

AND THEN NEXT. MR. JOHNSON, ARE YOU STILL THERE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. I KNOW YOU TOLD US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR YOUR TRAINING OR YOUR MEETING THAT YOU WERE IN.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO ADD ABOUT THAT.

NOTHING ELSE OTHER THAN ONE TOPIC THAT MANY OF THE OTHER CITY OFFICIALS HAD PICKING UP THAT WE ALREADY HAVE LEGISLATION FOR IS TINY HOMES.

A LOT OF THE CITIES ARE ENTERTAINING THE IDEA OF TINY HOMES, COMMUNITIES OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE LEGISLATION IN PLACE FOR SINCE 2019.

SO I ACTUALLY WAS ABLE TO GIVE THEM SOME FEEDBACK AND SOME SUGGESTIONS, AND TOLD THEM THAT WE WOULD PROVIDE SOME OF OUR LEGISLATION SO THEY CAN SEE IF IT WILL BE A GOOD MODEL FOR THEM TO FOLLOW. MY FAMILY AND I ACTUALLY STAYED IN A TINY HOME FOR VACATION RENTAL LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY SPACIOUS FOR ALL OF US.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE WHO JUST NEED JUST THEIR NEEDS MET THE TINY HOME CONCEPT IS DEFINITELY ONE TO CONSIDER.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE DEVELOPERS OUT THERE, BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMMIT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND THAT WAS THE CASE WITH OTHER CITIES AS WELL.

SO IF WE COULD JUST WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, BRAINSTORM ON IT.

PRAY ON IT. EVERYTHING. SO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE RIGHT INTENTIONS FOR OUR CITY TO GET A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT AND HELP THOSE WHO. WHO JUST NEED THE BARE MINIMUM. SO DO WE.

IS THERE SOME LAND SOMEWHERE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO ACTUALLY BUILD TINY HOMES ON? DID I MISS THIS? I MEAN, IF THERE WAS, I WOULD BE ALL OVER IT LIKE A CHEAP SUIT, TO BE BLUNT.

OKAY, BUT I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY LAND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FACILITATE THE BUILDING OF TINY HOUSES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSES.

WE MAY HAVE THE LEGISLATION, BUT I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE HAVE A SPACE TO ACTUALLY FACILITATE OUR LEGISLATION IN.

WELL, I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF THE IDEA BETWEEN TINY HOMES AND ACCESSORY DWELLINGS IS THAT YOU YOU CAN PUT THEM SOMETIMES IN INFILL LOTS.

IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE LIKE A GIANT PARCEL, BUT AGAIN, THAT TAKES A DEVELOPER TO TO COME AND PRESENT SOME TYPE OF PROJECT.

SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY OUT THERE THAT KNOWS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS, IS WILLING TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THAT.

SO AM I. AM I GATHERING THAT IF WE HAD SOMEBODY WHO SHOWED UP AT PLANNING AND AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH THEIR PLANS AND THE HOUSE WAS I GOT MY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND I'M BUILDING AN ADU IN THE BACK.

OKAY. IT'S A TINY HOUSE. ALL RIGHT. ADU. TINY HOUSE.

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY, LIKE, NOSEBLEEDS, ANXIETY, YOU KNOW, FLOGGING OF THE PERSON AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

I MEAN, I'M NOT AWARE THAT WE HAVE SOMEHOW, LIKE, GIVEN A HOW DO I A TRAINING COURSE TO OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT ON HOW THIS SHOULD BE POSSIBLY MANAGED IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THIS, BECAUSE I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS OUR REPUTATION FOR FLOGGING THE PEOPLE WHO COME IN WITH NEW IDEAS.

JUST SAYING. I THINK OUR I THINK OUR LEGISLATION HAS INCORPORATED THAT INTO WHAT WE DRAFTED.

BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU START DROPPING A BUNCH OF TINY HOUSES INTO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE GOING TO DROP THE VALUE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE THERE.

SO I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. OF COURSE YOU WOULD.

SO THAT'S WHY, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING WHAT WE LOOKED AT DOING WAS ACTUALLY DOING A UNIT, A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT FOR TINY HOUSES SO THAT YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THEM INTO A ALREADY PLAN TO THE PROPERTY.

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YOU'D BE IN A COMMUNITY WITH ALL TINY HOUSES TOGETHER.

THE PROBLEM IS IN LENDING, TO BE BLUNT. OKAY.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO DO A TINY HOUSE HERE OR EVEN AN ADU.

NOW YOU HAVE A BANK WHO'S LOOKING AND SAYING THERE AREN'T ANYWHERE WITHIN TEN MILES OF THIS PROPERTY.

SO DOING AN APPRAISAL TO SUPPORT VALUE. IT'S NOT THAT IT WOULD LOWER THE VALUE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING TO SUPPORT VALUE FOR IT.

NO COMPS. GOOD POINT. BUT YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.

AND THEREIN LIES MY POINT. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. YES, MA'AM.

JUST A QUESTION, BECAUSE MAYBE I HAVEN'T RESEARCHED ENOUGH OUR OUR LAWS AND POLICIES AND WHATEVER DOCUMENTS. BUT WITHIN THE ACCOMMODATIONS OF TINY HOUSES IS THE ALTERNATIVE FOR REPURPOSING SHIPPING CONTAINERS CAN CONTAIN THEIR. AND WOULD THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? THAT'S A RODNEY QUESTION.

I MEAN I'VE SEEN THAT. WE HAVEN'T PUT IT INTO OUR STATUTE.

I DO KNOW A PERSON WHO HAS A COMPANY THAT ACTUALLY DOES.

THAT'S HOW THEY DO THEIR. I DON'T CALL THEM TINY HOMES, BUT YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY USE SHIPPING CONTAINERS AND THEN THEY BUILD THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS OUT. THEY DO IT ALSO NOT JUST FOR HOUSING BUT STORES.

I THINK IT'S ONE THEY BUILT ONE OVER IN TAMPA RIGHT BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL.

THERE WAS ONE PROPOSED FOR DOWNTOWN O'GALLEY AND IT IT NEVER MADE IT THROUGH.

ISN'T THERE, ISN'T THERE ONE ON THE CORNER ONE TO SAN FILIPPO THERE.

THE HOUSE. GOT IT'S SOUTH OF WACO THERE ON SANTA.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE SHIPPING CONTAINER. IT LOOKS LIKE A CONTAINER, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I ACTUALLY THINK IT IS.

OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. AND I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WAS BUILT BY THE SAME COMPANY.

YEAH. THEY'RE ON COKE. OH, SORRY. COKE. OKAY.

MY MY INTEREST IS THAT TINY HOUSES AND THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS HAVE DIFFERENT STRUCTURES.

AND THE SHIPPING CONTAINERS ARE MUCH MORE DURABLE.

THEY'RE HURRICANE PROOF. THEY DON'T BURN. THEY EARTHQUAKE RESILIENT.

YEAH. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. ET CETERA. A TINY HOUSE WHICH IS BUILT PIECE BY PIECE, JUST AS NORMAL CONSTRUCTION IS, CAN BLOW AWAY. SO MY, I SEE IT AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO LOOK AT HOW DO WE HOW CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. HOW'S THE HOMELESS? SURVIVE IN A BETTER FASHION THROUGH THE HURRICANES THAT WE KNOW WILL COME THROUGH FLORIDA.

AND I'M LOOKING AT AN INCREASE FROM 175 TO 100,000 TO RENOVATE A HOME.

AND YOU COULD LITERALLY BUILD THREE CONTAINER HOMES OR TINY HOUSES WITH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND AND FOR THE RECORD, I JUST GOT DONE RENOVATING A WHOLE HOUSE IN NOVEMBER.

AND LITERALLY TOP TO BOTTOM. AND IT COST ME $85,000 TO DO EVERYTHING.

AND I DIDN'T GO CHEAP. OKAY. I REALLY DID NOT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, WITH $75,000, I COULD ABSOLUTELY REHAB A HOUSE INTO LIKE, THE TAJ.

OKAY. JUST SAYING. AND NOT THAT I EXPECT YOU TO DO ANYTHING TONIGHT, BUT I CERTAINLY EXPECT IT TO BE CONSIDERED. YES. UNDERSTOOD. I THINK THERE'S A IF YOU GO DOWN 192 PAST SAM'S CLUB ON YOUR RIGHT. THERE'S. YES, THERE'S ONE THERE IN THE CORNER.

RIGHT. I'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. SO YEAH. IT'S WHERE THE HURRICANES AND.

YEAH. I MEAN, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. YEAH.

SO. ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU WANT THAT? YEAH. OKAY.

YOU'D. ABSOLUTELY. YOU WOULDN'T WANT A FAMILY LIVING IN IT IF. NO, NO.

WASN'T SAFE. BUT. NO. AND WE HAVE A SHIPPING CONTAINER ON OUR PROPERTY.

I STORE OUR EXCAVATOR, OUR TRACTOR AND OUR UTV IN IT.

THING IS BRILLIANT. SITS RIGHT THERE. OKAY, LOCK IT UP.

IT IS WEATHERPROOF. IT'S GONE THROUGH THREE HURRICANES.

FOUR HURRICANES. OKAY. SINCE WE'VE HAD IT. YEAH.

NO, IT ISN'T GOING ANYWHERE. IT'S STRUCTURALLY SOUND, RIGHT?

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EXACTLY. EXACTLY. GOT IT. GREAT. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE WHY, WITH A LITTLE IMAGINATION, WE COULDN'T ABSOLUTELY FACILITATE THAT. BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING NEW.

IT WOULD BE A MATTER OF GETTING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PREPPED AND READY TO SAY YES.

JUST SAYING. WELL, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. JOHNSON HAD A LOT OF INTEREST ON THAT WHEN HE WAS ON THAT CALL WITH THE OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE STATE.

AND SO STATEWIDE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THERE BECOMES MORE INTEREST THAN MORE DEVELOPERS AND MORE PROJECT MANAGERS ARE GOING TO WANT TO BRING THAT ALL OVER.

THERE MIGHT BE MORE INTEREST STATEWIDE, WHICH JUST BRINGS MORE AWARENESS TO THAT TYPE OF PROJECT.

SO I THINK WE'RE STARTING AT THE RIGHT POINT, BUT WE HAVE TO GET SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED.

SO WE'RE TRYING. DENISE, DID YOU WANT TO GO OVER ANYTHING ELSE ON THE STAFF REPORT?

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YES, I WANTED TO. NOTHING ELSE ON MY END. OKAY.

AND AND THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, FOR SITTING IN ON THAT CALL.

I WANTED TO MAKE THE BORDER. WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL SIT IN ON THE CALL.

THAT IS THE STATUTE STATE STATUTE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO DO THAT.

AND IF THEY DO NOT, THEN OUR SHIP FUNDS COULD BE STOPPED.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS SIT IN ON THAT CALL.

THANKS. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.

LIKE, WE'RE ALL JUST STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CITY.

SO WE ALL HAVE WORKING PARTS, AND WE'RE ALL CONTRIBUTING.

BUT I'M JUST HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ALL. WE HAVE A GREAT BOARD, GREAT STAFF, AND LET'S JUST SAY ONE, ONE DAY AT A TIME. LET'S KEEP CHIPPING AWAY. THANK YOU.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COVER A FEW POINTS IN THE INFORMATIONAL STAFF REPORT ANY BOARD MEMBERS THAT JOIN THE THE ADVISORY BOARD WITHIN THE LAST YEAR THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND AN ORIENTATION MEETING.

WE HAVE A PACKET THAT WE'VE MADE, AND WE WILL GLADLY MEET WITH YOU.

IT WILL BE A ONE ON ONE ORIENTATION, BUT WE'LL GLADLY MEET WITH YOU.

OKAY. YEAH. YEAH, I WOULD BE ONE THAT WOULD WELCOME THAT.

OKAY. WELL, GIVE ME GIVE ME A CALL. AND ARE WE GOING TO TALK AFTER THE MEETING? AND AND WE CAN SET UP SOMETHING. THANK YOU. OKAY.

AND THEN UNDER PUBLIC SERVICES. I HOPE YOU NOTICED SOME OF THE NUMBERS.

THE, THE BUS VOUCHER PROGRAM WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

YEAH. WE RAN OUT OF MONEY VERY EARLY. AND SO WE'LL HAVE MORE MONEY NEXT YEAR, BUT A TOTAL OF 300 BUS PASSES WERE DISTRIBUTED TO 114 PALM BAY RESIDENTS.

THAT'S EXCELLENT. YEAH. YEAH. AND IT HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE.

PEOPLE CAME IN. THEY. THAT'S HOW THEY GOT TO WORK.

THAT'S GREAT. WOW. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE GREATER MELBOURNE PAL, THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL.

THEY'VE EXPANDED THEIR PROGRAM, AND THEY'VE ASSISTED 23 YOUTH TO DATE.

CATHOLIC CHARITIES HAS DONE VERY WELL. THEY SERVED 17 PERSONS WITH RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT TOO MANY KNOW OTHER AGENCIES, YOU KNOW IN THE CITY THAT'S DOING THIS SERVICE, EXCEPT FOR CATHOLIC CHARITIES THE BREVARD ALZHEIMER'S FOUNDATION.

THEY DID WELL, DID WELL AT SERVING. WE WE'VE GOT TO GET THEM BETTER ON REPORTING, BUT THEY DID VERY WELL WITH SERVING SENIOR CITIZENS. AND THE LAST NONPROFIT, THAT'S ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH FOR IMPROVEMENT.

THEY HAVEN'T TURNED TOO MANY. TURNED IN MANY.

YEAH. DECLARATION FORMS OF SERVICE SHOWING THAT THEY'RE SERVING.

PALM BAY. RESIDENTS. I THINK WE'RE AT 12. AND SO THEY MAY NOT SPEND ALL THEIR MONEY.

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SO, DENISE, IF THEY DON'T EXPEND ALL OF THEIR FUNDING, DOES THAT FUNDING GET RETURNED TO HUD? THAT CAN'T BE REALLOCATED, RIGHT? IT IT CAN'T BE REALLOCATED.

IT CAN BE REALLOCATED TO ANOTHER AREA, BUT NOT PUBLIC SERVICES.

SO, OKAY, WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY IF THEY DON'T SPEND IT TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OR IF WE HAD CODE ENFORCEMENT.

ANY OTHER AREAS. OKAY. BUT PUBLIC SERVICES. THAT'S A SHAME, THOUGH.

SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO WE WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE MONIES.

OKAY. AND REUSE AND USE IT ON NON PUBLIC SERVICES.

OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ARE IN PROGRESS.

IF YOU HAVE TIME AND YOU'RE IN ANY OF THESE IN LIBERTY PARK OR AT KEN GREEN PARK, KEN GREEN MEMORIAL PARK, AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO STOP BY. THOSE ARE PROJECTS THAT WE WE'RE PAYING FOR.

THE TENNIS COURTS ARE GOING IN AT KEN GREEN, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE PICKLEBALL, A NEW PICKLEBALL COURT THERE.

AT LIBERTY PARK. THERE'S A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT'S GOING IN THERE.

SO WE HAVE OVER $400,000 IN THAT, THAT PROJECT. SO IF YOU HAVE TIME AND YOU'RE ABLE TO STOP BY THOSE TWO PLACES YOU'LL SEE THOSE PROJECTS UNDERWAY.

ALSO, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE. JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT WE GAVE MONIES TO COMMUNITY HOUSING INITIATIVES ALONG WITH TITUSVILLE, COCOA AND MELBOURNE. THEY'RE ALL SENDING PORTIONS OF.

WE DIDN'T USE SHIP FUNDS. WE USE CDBG FUNDS. IN THE FUTURE, WE MAY BE USING SHIP FUNDS TO HELP WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

SO WE DID HAVE ONE HOMEOWNER, AND WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER ONES THAT HAVE SOME OTHER ONES IN PROGRESS.

THEY HAVE TWO HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ACTUALLY BUILDING NEW HOMES AND PALM BAY.

AND THEN WE HAVE ONE I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SUBMIT TO US THIS SUMMER THAT WILL HELP WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.

SO WE HELPED THIS HOMEOWNER UP TO 60,000 WITH THEIR DOWN PAYMENT.

AND THEN LASTLY MACEDONIA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ARE THEY SENIORS THAT ARE IN THAT TRIPLEX, YOU KNOW, OKAY. SO WE HAVE YEAH, WE HAVE ONE PERSON.

THEY HAVE A THEY RENOVATED A TRIPLEX ON WASHINGTON STREET RIGHT NEXT TO THE HOME THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DEMOLISHING AND AND BUILDING NEW. YES. AND THEY HAD THEY DO HAVE ONE SENIOR CITIZEN THAT'S IN THAT TRIPLEX, AND THEY HAVE SOME FUTURE PROJECTS WITH US NOW.

SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO COME OF THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE RENOVATE. THEY WANT TO RENOVATE.

WE HOPE THAT THEY CAN, BUT IF THEY CAN'T, THEN THEY MAY BE TEARING DOWN AND BUILDING NEW SOME APARTMENTS.

SO CAN WE GET THEM TO DO THE 3D PRINTED HOUSES HERE? WHAT WHAT I WAS TOLD BY MR. PHILLIPS, HE SAID THEY THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE, HAVE THE COMPANY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE BEFORE THEY DO ANOTHER ONE.

OH, OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE FRONT END AND THEY'RE LEARNING A LOT.

OKAY. THAT'S A VERY NEAT PROJECT, THOUGH. MISS PETAR WOULD LIKE THAT ONE.

IT'S OVER IN SOUTH MELBOURNE. IT'S A 3D PRINTED HOUSE.

YES. YEAH, BUT THAT'S A MACEDONIA. YES. YEAH, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CHURCH.

YEAH. ACROSS FROM WHAT CHURCH? MACEDONIA. MACEDONIA? YEAH. IT'S LIKE THERE'S A BIG MACHINE IN IT. 3D PRINTS ALL THE PIECES AND IT'S IT'S QUITE IMPRESSIVE, BUT IT'S THE FIRST OF ITS KIND, SO. YEAH. DAYCARE CENTER IS TO THE, IT'S ON THE, ON THAT OTHER FOR THE 45 DEGREE ANGLE.

IT HAS A SIGN OUT THERE. YEAH. MACEDONIA AND HABITAT ARE DOING IT AND IT'S A 3D PRINTED HOUSE.

YES. AND IT'S CONSTRUCTED. YES. BUILDING IT. IT'S VERY IT'S GOING SLOW.

IT'S SLOW. IT'S WITH HABITAT THOUGH. RIGHT. YES.

YEAH. IT'S A HABITAT. OKAY. OKAY. I SEE YOU GOTTA GO.

YOU GOTTA GO OUT THERE. RODNEY! RODNEY, YOU GOTTA GET OUT MORE.

I KNOW, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN. I'VE BEEN SEEING ALL THESE BUILDINGS GET PUT UP OUT OF THE GROUND WITH STICKS.

SO THOSE ARE APARTMENT COMPLEXES. YEAH, YEAH, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT EVEN UTILIZING

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RECYCLING MATERIAL TO BE ABLE TO THEN PRODUCE THE MATERIAL TO MAKE THESE.

I'M NOT GONNA SAY INDESTRUCTIBLE, BUT SUPER STURDY STRUCTURES.

OKAY, YOU GOTTA CHECK THAT OUT. SO TELL JERRY TO WORK OUT ALL THE KINKS, OKAY? AND HE CAN BRING IT BACK OVER HERE. YEAH. WE'RE WAITING.

YEAH. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW MORE PROJECTS.

THE SOUTH PARK WOMEN'S CENTER PROJECT IS UNDERWAY.

AND THEY THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR THEIR PROJECT IS IN PROGRESS.

EXCELLENT. SO THEY. THE LOWEST BIDDER WAS HARLEM PROPERTIES DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY'VE GOT STARTED ALSO.

SPACE COAST COMMONS IS ALMOST FINISHED. SO AND WHERE IS THAT? THAT'S OFF OF BABCOCK. AND THEY'RE RIGHT NEAR EACH OTHER.

OH, OKAY. YEAH, RIGHT NEAR THE WHERE THE WOMEN'S CENTER IS LOCATED.

EXCELLENT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE WE HAVE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO WORK WITH US ON THIS MONEY THE 674,383 WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE ADVISORY BOARD IN THE IN THE FORM OF WE'RE GOING TO DO AN RFP. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS HUD IS ALLOWING ALL OF THE PROGRAM INCOME THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM THAT WE HAD THAT'S NO LONGER.

THAT'S CLOSED. WELL. ALMOST CLOSED. WE'RE OFFICIALLY TRYING TO CLOSE IT WITH HUD.

AND ONCE WE CLOSE EVERYTHING THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT, WE COULD CONVERT THAT THOSE MONIES TO CDBG.

OH, EXCELLENT. SO WE'LL DO AN RFP FOR MONIES AFTER THAT IS CLOSED OUT.

THAT'S EXCELLENT NEWS OKAY. 640 FOR SENIOR HOUSING.

ONCE TWICE. THAT'S AN ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY UNDER CDBG.

SO DID ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ON THE STAFF REPORT? AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF FOR EVERYTHING.

THE WAY IT WAS LAID OUT. DENISE. VERY WELL PRESENTED.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND JUST WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN ORIENTATION, TO TAKE DENISE UP ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS CAN GET A LITTLE CONFUSING, AND IT'S ALWAYS A LOT OF INFORMATION COMING AT YOU.

SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND. AND ALSO THE DENISE THAT IS AT FLORIDA HOUSING THAT DOES THAT ONLINE TRAINING.

I THINK IT'S ELECTED OFFICIAL TRAINING, BUT THE BOARD MEMBERS CAN DO IS THAT ONLINE LIKE ON DEMAND OR THAT'S THAT'S AN EXCELLENT TRAINING TO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED THAT YOU CAN WATCH ON YOUR OWN TIME. THAT'S I'M SURE SHE CAN SEND THAT OUT IF, IF ANYBODY ELSE IS INTERESTED.

BUT THAT'S THAT'S REALLY GOOD TOO. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF ALL THE PROGRAMS, IT'S IT'S GAUGED MORE TOWARDS ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT SERVE ON THE BOARD.

BUT IT'S GOOD FOR BOARD MEMBERS TO JUST AS AN OVERVIEW OF ALL THE PROGRAMS. AND THEN JUST ANOTHER KUDOS ON THE BUS VOUCHERS.

I THINK THAT'S EXCELLENT. AND I'M GLAD WE'RE PUTTING MORE MONEY TOWARDS THAT NEXT YEAR. SO BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN A GOOD PROGRAM.

DID ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE ADJOURN FOR THE EVENING? I'M HEARING NONE. OKAY. WE WILL ADJOURN AT 656.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.