Jul 03, 2025 Council Meetings - Regular

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ALL RIGHT, GUYS. IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. I'M CALLING

[CALL TO ORDER:]

THE INVOCATION WILL BE GIVEN BY PASTOR DAVID FITZGERALD.

ARE YOU HERE, SIR? THERE YOU GO. AND I BELIEVE WE'LL START OFF WITH DEPUTY MAYOR LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE.

PLEASE RISE. PASTOR DAVE, CAN WE ADJUST MY MICROPHONE, PLEASE? WOULD YOU LIKE ME? PRAY FIRST, SIR? I'D BE MY HONOR.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. GOD, WE JUST COME TO YOU TODAY. WE THANK YOU, LORD.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE RAIN. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S CAUSING US TO GET HERE A LITTLE BIT LATE TONIGHT. LORD, IT IS GREAT. AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR IT. LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BE WITH EACH ONE.

HEAR THAT, LORD, THAT YOU BLESS THEM, THAT YOU PROTECT THEM, THAT LORD, THAT AS WE COME TOGETHER TONIGHT, THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR CITY, THAT WE WORK TOGETHER TO HELP BETTER OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT, LORD, THAT WE WOULD SEEK YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR WORDS OUT.

AND HOW THAT WE TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND WE WORK WITH ONE ANOTHER.

GOD, LET US BE A REPRESENTATION OF YOU AND ALL THAT WE DO AND ALL THAT WE SAY AND ALL THE WAYS THAT WE BEHAVE.

GOD, I THANK YOU FOR THESE MEN AND FOR THESE WOMEN AND FOR THE THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT THEY HOLD FOR OUR CITY.

I ASK THAT YOU BE NOT ONLY WITH THEM, BUT WITH THEIR LOVED ONES, AND GOD PROTECT THEM AND GUIDE THEM.

GIVE THEM STRENGTH, AS NOT ONLY ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT, BUT THEIR FAMILIES ARE IN DIFFERENT OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND SO, GOD, JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS TEAM AND THIS COMMUNITY THAT HAS COME TOGETHER TO HELP MAKE DECISIONS TO BETTER THE CITY.

LORD, LET US LET YOU BE OUR LIGHT AND OUR EXAMPLE AND ALL THAT WE DO.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HURRAH! MISS LEFFLER, ROLL CALL. MAYOR. MEDINA.

DEPUTY MAYOR. JAFFE. PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON.

PRESIDENT. COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. PRESENT. MR.. MORTON.

PRESIDENT. MISS. SMITH. PRESENT. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR.

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

REPRESENTS THAT LARGE POSITION. ANYONE WISHING TO SERVE ON THESE BOARDS CAN APPLY ONLINE AT PALM BAY.

FLORIDA.ORG. OR CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AT 9523414.

THANK YOU. IS HE HERE? CERTAINLY. OKAY. OKAY.

[AGENDA REVISIONS:]

THAT NEEDS TO GO BACK FOR ADDITIONAL WORK. NOT NOT HAPPY WITH THE FINANCIAL POSITION BEING OFFERED BY T-MOBILE TO THE CITY.

THAT'S ITEM TEN UNDER CONSENT. CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY. AND. THE OTHER. WE'RE GETTING THE ADDITIONS HERE.

OKAY. WE'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD ORDINANCE 2526, WHICH AMENDS CHAPTERS 51 AND 59 RELATING TO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLATS. IT'S BEEN ADDED TO THE AGENDA AS ITEM NUMBER TEN.

I BELIEVE THAT'S STILL ACCURATE UNDER NEW BUSINESS AS IT COINCIDES WITH ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS IS THE ESSENTIALLY THE STATE PREEMPTION OF OUR LOCAL FINAL, PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLANNING PROCESS THAT WE'RE HERE TO DEAL WITH.

IT TOOK EFFECT EFFECTUALLY JULY 1ST. AND ORDINANCE 2524, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, HAS BEEN REVISED TO INCLUDE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO THE PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE BONDS AS REVIEWED BY STAFF.

THANK YOU, MADAM SMITH. ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NO, SIR. NOTHING ADDITIONAL. ANY REVISIONS? COUNSELOR? YES, MAYOR SANCHEZ, I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON FIRST.

YES, MAYOR. COUNCILMAN MARCUS SMITH OF MELBOURNE IS RUNNING LATE DUE TO THE WEATHER AND TRAFFIC.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE PROCLAMATIONS TO AFTER PRESENTATIONS BY OUR CHIEF STOVER.

I NEED A I GOT A MOTION. I NEED A SECOND. I'LL SECOND THAT.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN TO MOVE THE PROCLAMATION TO AFTER THE PRESENTATION BY CHIEF STOVER. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE.

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ITEM NUMBER FIVE. WHAT IS THAT? THE ORDINANCE 20 2524 AMENDING THE CODE ORDINANCE.

AS FAR AS FINAL PLAT APPROVALS. I'LL SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER FIVE UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO ITEM TO BE HEARD BEFORE ITEM NUMBER ONE.

IS THAT CORRECT? AND ALSO CHANGE IT FROM AN ORDINANCE TO A RESOLUTION.

OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. SO RIGHT NOW, CHIEF STOVER.

[PRESENTATION:]

GOOD EVENING. ON BEHALF OF CHIEF STOVER, HE'S ALLOWING ME TO COME UP HERE TO PRESENT FOR THE FIRE RESCUE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION.

SO I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE RECAP HERE OVER WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE 2025 HURRICANE SEASON.

SOME OF THE FORECASTS, ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR AND A LITTLE BIT MOVING FORWARD, WHAT WE'RE PREPARING FOR. IF I CAN TURN YOUR ATTENTION OVER HERE TO THE POWERPOINT. SO FOR THIS HURRICANE SEASON FROM BOTH COLORADO STATE UNIVERSITY, WHICH IS KIND OF THE LEADING AGENCY FOR FORECASTING HURRICANE SEASON, ALONG WITH THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, THEY'RE CALLING FOR A SLATE NINE LA NINA, WHICH WOULD THEN, WITH SOME OTHER FACTORS, LEAD TO A SLIGHTLY INCREASED MORE ACTIVE HURRICANE SEASON, BUT LESS THAN IN 2024. SO A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN LAST YEAR, A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT NORMAL WOULD BE.

THE MOST RECENT FORECAST WILL COME OUT PROBABLY NEXT WEEK, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE ANY BIG CHANGES IN THAT.

REGARDLESS, OUR JOB IS TO PREPARE THE CITY FOR THE WORST, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.

IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THEY'RE WORKING ON IS RAPID INTENSIFICATION.

THAT'S THE SCIENCE BEHIND IT. SO WHAT WE SAW LAST YEAR IN 2024 WITH HURRICANE MILTON WAS A LITTLE BIT OF RAPID INTENSIFICATION, WHICH WOULD BE AN INCREASE OF 35 MILES AN HOUR IN LESS THAN A 24 HOUR PERIOD.

THE SCIENCE, THEY JUST THEY JUST DON'T HAVE IT DIALED IN YET SO THEY CAN'T PREDICT IT. A LITTLE BIT OF MAP THIS YEAR WITH I'M SORRY, WITH HURRICANE MILTON LAST YEAR WE WERE IN. IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALL TO SEE.

WE WERE ABOUT 25, 30 MILES OUTSIDE OF THE STORM'S PATH.

WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS PRETTY CLOSE AND IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.

BUT TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO THE RED STAR DOWN IN PORT SAINT LUCIE COUNTY.

THEY WERE ABOUT 85 TO 90 MILES AWAY FROM THE CENTER, AND THEY SAW PROBABLY THE WORST EFFECTS.

SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE, YOU SEE THE ALL OF THE TORNADO TRACKS, WHICH WAS AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF TORNADOES.

THE MOST RECENT COUNT, THEY HAD AT LEAST 19 TO HOUR TORNADOES IN A FOUR HOUR PERIOD IN JUST 24 HOURS BEFORE THAT ON THE EIGHTH.

THE OFFICIAL PREDICTION WAS A VERY LOW TO MODERATE RISK OF TORNADOES, WHICH KIND OF PAINTS A PICTURE OF, YES, WE CAN HAVE FORECASTS, WE CAN PREDICT THINGS, BUT WE CAN'T PREDICT THEM WITH ABSOLUTE ACCURACY.

SO WE HAVE TO PREPARE FOR THE WORST. I'M SURE NOBODY IN PORT SAINT LUCIE COUNTY EXPECTED THE ROOF OF THEIR CONDOMINIUM TO BE TAKEN OFF.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS 19 LIVES TAKEN DURING THOSE TORNADOES, AND ALSO TENS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGE.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH, I DON'T HAVE IT INDICATED ON THERE, BUT THE NORTHERN SIDE UP IN VOLUSIA COUNTY, THEY SAW ANYWHERE BETWEEN 10 TO 15IN OF RAINFALL.

WE WERE LUCKY, 2.5IN. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU JUST CAN'T PREDICT WITH THESE HURRICANES.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO THIS THIS RIGHT HERE IS ONE OF OUR TOOLS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE FOR.

IT'S FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER. IT'S AN OFFICIAL TOOL. IT'S CALLED VAC AND WE USE IT FOR SIMULATIONS.

SO THIS SPECIFIC MAP HERE I PULLED UP. THIS IS A SIMULATION ONLY, BUT IT WOULD BE IF WE SAW THE WORST OF THE WORST WITH STORM SURGE.

SO IF WE HAD A LANDFALL HURRICANE COMING FROM THE ATLANTIC THE COLORS INDICATE APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH WATER ABOVE GROUND LEVEL COULD WE PREDICT TO SEE THAT THAT AREA ITSELF IS TURKEY CREEK. SO THAT'S JUST A VISUAL IMAGE OF TOOLS THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO TRY AND PREDICT IMPACTS THAT WE COULD SEE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING FORWARD. SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON FOR THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIVISION WE'VE BROUGHT ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR LEXI.

SHE'S PHENOMENAL. SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO BRING SOME THINGS INTO DOCUMENTATION AND REALLY BRING THE CITY TOGETHER AS A WHOLE.

SO OUR JOB IS TO COORDINATE THE CITY, RIGHT? WE DON'T WE DON'T NECESSARILY MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS.

WE DON'T TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO, BUT WE COORDINATE EVERYBODY TOGETHER. WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL TEAM HERE WITHIN THE CITY.

PUBLIC WORKS HANDLES PUBLIC WORKS PARKS AND FACILITIES, HANDLES PARKS AND FACILITIES.

BUT WE JUST WANT TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM, ONE AREA FOR COORDINATED RESPONSE AND RECOVERY.

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WE'RE RESPONDING TO THE EVENT. BUT THE LONG TERM WHERE WE REALLY COME INTO PLAY IS THE RECOVERY.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. SOME OF THE IF YOU GO BACK TO MISSION, SOME OF THE LESSONS WE LEARNED LAST YEAR SANDBAG OPERATIONS.

SO AS I MENTIONED, PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING A PHENOMENAL JOB.

THEY'VE PURCHASED EQUIPMENT TO HELP DO CONDUCT MORE EFFICIENT SANDBAG OPERATIONS FOR OUR CITIZENS.

PRE STAGING OF EQUIPMENT, TRACTORS, DOZERS, TRUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE COORDINATING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN PLACE AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THE STORM SO WE CAN GET AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

CLEAR DOCUMENTATION OF PREDECESSOR CONDITION AND MAINTENANCE RECORDS. WE'RE WORKING ON ENSURING WE GOT THE CORRECT DOCUMENTATION SO THAT WE GET THE BEST CHANCES OF SUCCESS FOR REIMBURSEMENT. YOU'LL SEE HERE IN A SECOND. OUR GOAL IS FOR A 90% REIMBURSEMENT RATE.

THAT 90% IS COST THAT WOULD BE ABOVE OUR BUDGETED ITEMS. PRE SOLICITED STANDBY CONTRACTS FOR DISASTER READINESS ASSESSMENT.

THIS IS ALL BLUE SKY STUFF. THE WEATHER IS CLEAR.

IT'S NOT HURRICANE SEASON. WE'RE GETTING THE PROPER CONTRACTS IN PLACE.

OUR PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENT DOES A WONDERFUL JOB OF FOLLOWING ALL OF THE FEMA RULES.

SO IT'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE STATE. THEY'VE VETTED EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE OUR STANDBY CONTRACTS ARE HAVE BEEN SOLICITED PROPERLY.

WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING A LOT OF TRAINING. LUCKILY, WE'VE WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD INITIATIVE GOING WITH ICS INCIDENT MANAGEMENT, TEAM TRAINING. THAT'S REALLY KICKED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, OUR TEAM HAS REALLY GROWN.

SO WE'VE WE'VE GARNERED EMPLOYEES FROM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE A YOU KNOW, FOR.

FOR EXAMPLE, LOGISTICS. WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT JUST LOVE DOING LOGISTICS.

THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO CAPTURE TO COME IN AND HELP THE CITY RESPOND.

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT LOVE FINANCE AND ADMINISTRATION, THOSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT DEPARTMENT THEY ARE, WE WANT THEM TO COME AND HELP THE CITY RESPOND. WE'RE WORKING ON SOME PARTIAL ACTIVATIONS.

SO WHAT WE SAW WITH HURRICANE MILTON LAST YEAR, WE THERE WAS A COUPLE DAYS AHEAD OF THE STORM THAT WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SOME COST RECOVERY. SO WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE ACTIVATING AND PREPARING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF TIME SO WE CAN ALSO CAPTURE THOSE COSTS.

I THINK WE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB WITH MILTON. WE'RE JUST GOING TO CLEAN IT UP ANYMORE TO GET ABOVE THAT 90% THRESHOLD.

DEBRIS REMOVAL, TIMELY DECISION MAKING, PRE SOLICITED CONTRACTS.

SO DEBRIS REMOVAL WILL BE IN A BIG ONE. I'M SURE YOU ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR AFTER MILTON, WE DIDN'T GET TOO BAD OF A DEBRIS LOAD.

BUT OVER ON THE WEST COAST AND UP IN THE CAROLINAS THEY DID. SO WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE SURE NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE CORRECT VENDORS ON STANDBY AND ON CONTRACT, BUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO PREPARED.

AND THEY DID A LOT OF THE REMOVAL LAST YEAR. SO THEY'RE BOLSTERING UP THEIR EQUIPMENT, GETTING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION IN ORDER SO THAT NOT ONLY CAN WE DO IT, BUT WE CAN GET THAT COST RECOVERY AS WELL. SO IT DOESN'T COST US ANY MONEY.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS WE LEARNED PDR, PRIVATE PROPERTY, DEBRIS REMOVAL.

WE CAN DO PRIVATE PROPERTY DEBRIS REMOVAL. THERE'S A LOT OF RED TAPE TO THAT TO GET REIMBURSEMENT.

BUT THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN COORDINATE FORCE ACCOUNT LABOR.

SO THAT'S OUR OUR INTERNAL IT'S OUR RECOUPING OUR OUR SALARIES AND EXPENDITURES.

WE LOOK AT THINGS LIKE BACKFILL, TEMPORARY HIRES.

ALL OF THESE LITTLE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT HELP INCREASE OUR OUR COST RECOVERIES.

AND WITH ALL THIS, WE'RE ALSO COORDINATE WITH FDM AND FEMA.

SEAN, I THINK ONE MORE. YEAH. SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST ONE.

I'LL BREEZE THROUGH IT REAL QUICK. SO THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE DOING, LIKE I SAID, IS, IS COORDINATION.

WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE THE ENTIRE CITY. WE RAN SOME NUMBERS LAST YEAR FOR HURRICANE MILTON.

WE'RE LOOKING AT APPROXIMATELY $6,000 FOR A 24 HOUR PERIOD OF A FULL EOC ACTIVATION.

AGAIN, GREATER THAN 90% COST RECOVERY. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY GET AT LEAST 100% FOR HURRICANE MILTON, AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE CAN'T DO THAT MOVING FORWARD. WHICH ROLLS INTO.

WE LOOKED AT ROUGHLY $200,000 A DAY FOR THE RECOVERY, FOR THE RESPONSE AND RECOVERY TO HURRICANE MILTON.

THAT WAS A TWO, TWO AND A HALF DAY PERIOD. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO DO REALLY WELL WITH THAT COST REIMBURSEMENT.

A LOT OF THAT IS THE PREPARATION, PLANNING, DOCUMENTATION, THINGS LIKE THAT AHEAD OF TIME.

SO OUR TOTAL HURRICANE MILTON, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT FOUR, $4 MILLION IN RECOVERY COSTS.

PUBLIC WORKS DID A GREAT JOB IN GETTING A GRANT AS WELL FOR THE NORWOOD INCIDENT.

SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET ABOUT 1.8. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RECOVER THE REMAINING 1.3 THROUGH FEMA.

SO WE ARE A COUPLE OF OUR STRATEGIC GOALS. SORRY, IS OUR WE'RE FOCUSING ON EXECUTIVE POLICY GROUP.

SO THE DECISION MAKERS, RIGHT. THE LEADERS OF THE CITY MAKE THE KEY DECISIONS.

AND THEN THE EOC TEAM EXECUTES THOSE DECISIONS.

WE MAKE THE WORK HAPPEN. WE COORDINATE EVERYBODY.

SO IT'S WE KEEP IT WITHIN THE OPERATING CENTER.

WITH THAT COMES BETTER COORDINATED RESPONSE, BETTER PREPARATION.

WE'LL ESTABLISH THRESHOLDS AND CITY DEPARTMENTAL RESPONSIBILITIES TO HAVE CLEAR CUT GUIDANCE.

AND INSTEAD OF MAKING DECISIONS ON THE FLY, WE'RE MAKING THESE AHEAD OF TIME.

WE'RE HAVING BOOKS AND WE'RE HAVING GUIDES THAT WE CAN JUST ROLL. SO THE CITY MANAGER SAYS ACTIVATE AND EVERYBODY ALREADY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

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RIGHT. SO THE VOLUNTEER FORCE JUST A LITTLE NOTE HERE.

FOR EXAMPLE, OUR CERT TEAM VOLUNTEERS HOURLY RATE ACCORDING TO THE STATE CURRENTLY IS $33 AN HOUR.

SO IF WE WERE TO HAVE A CERT TEAM OR WE WERE TO HAVE CERTIFIED VOLUNTEERS FOR 50 PEOPLE, 30 HOURS EACH PERSON, WE THEN BRING IN $50,000 BACK INTO THE CITY WAS, WHICH IS ABOUT HOW MUCH WE THINK IT WOULD COST TO TO FULLY DEVELOP A CERT TEAM.

SO IT'S OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS THAT WE CAN CAPTURE TO NOT ONLY INVOLVE THE CITIZENS PREPARE AND RESPOND BETTER, BUT WE CAN ALSO RECAPTURE MORE MONEY. AND WITH THAT, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE GLAD TO TO ANSWER.

I DON'T I DON'T SEE ANYONE. WELL, THEY JUST CAME IN.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. JUST A FEW QUICK QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, SIR. WITH THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR.

HOW DO THEY WORK WITH BREVARD? BECAUSE BREVARD HAS THEIR OWN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM.

HOW? YEAH, HOW DOES THAT. SO THAT POSITION IS KEY.

RIGHT. OUR CURRENT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR HAS SOME COUNTY LEVEL EXPERIENCE.

THERE'S A THERE'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CITY LEVEL.

SO COUNTY, THE BREVARD EOC AND BOTH HER AND I WORKED VERY WELL WITH BREVARD COUNTY.

WE'VE ALREADY EOC OVERSEES THE WHOLE COUNTY. RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE MORE OF IF WE NEED A RESOURCE, THEY ARE THERE TO GET US THAT RESOURCE TO HELP COORDINATE.

WHETHER IT'S FROM SOME OTHER JURISDICTION WITHIN THE COUNTY OR MAYBE STATEWIDE IF THEY HAVE TO REACH, WHICH WE DID HAVE TO DO LAST YEAR. FOR THE NORWOOD INCIDENT, WE REACHED OUT TO THE STATE AND ALSO FOR FOR WATER PUMPS, WHICH THAT THAT WAS KEY TO GET THAT. THAT POSITION DOES WELL WITH THAT.

BUT NOT ONLY THAT, IT'S THE DOCUMENTATION. IT'S THE WRITING OF THE PLANS.

IT'S THE COORDINATING OF ALL OF THE INTER-DEPARTMENTAL, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY.

AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS US AT THE CITY LEVEL.

WE'RE COORDINATING THE RESPONSE, EXCUSE ME, RECORDING THE RESPONSE FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE BREVARD EOC JUST SIMPLY CAN'T DO.

THEY HAVE SO MUCH. THEY'RE A MUCH HIGHER LEVEL RESPONSE PREPAREDNESS TYPE THAN WE ARE.

AND THE BIG THING THAT WE DO REALLY WELL WITH THE CITY AND OUR COORDINATOR AS WELL, IS MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION AND EVERYTHING IN LINE TO GET OUR BIG COST RECOVERY. SO PRIOR TO HURRICANE MILTON, WE'VE SEEN WE'RE LOOKING AT PROBABLY ABOUT 15 TO 20% FORCE ACCOUNT LABOR.

SO THE SALARIES THAT WERE ABOVE AND BEYOND NORMAL BUDGETED WERE RECAPTURED, PROBABLY ABOUT 15 TO 20% OF THAT FOR HURRICANE MILTON.

I ANTICIPATE THAT TO PROBABLY BE 90% OR HIGHER.

WE DON'T HAVE FILE FINAL NUMBERS YET, BUT THOSE THINGS THAT THAT POSITION IS DOING.

THAT'S WHAT WE THAT'S WHAT WE GET OUT OF THAT POSITION. OKAY.

AND MILLIONS. YEAH. AND THEN WITH THAT ON TO FEMA.

I REMEMBER A FEW YEARS AGO. IT TOOK US, LIKE TWO YEARS TO GET 2 MILLION FROM FEMA.

AND SO STAYING IN FRONT AND TO THAT POINT, WILL THIS COORDINATOR BE THE ONE TO CONTACT OR WORK WITH OUR CITY MANAGER TO CONTACT FEMA BEFORE WE EVEN DECLARE A STATE OF EMERGENCY OR CONTACT THE STATE? SO WE STAY AHEAD SO WE DON'T FALL BEHIND LIKE NEW ORLEANS DID WITH REACHING OUT TO FEMA AND.

CORRECT. SO UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE THINGS WITH FEMA IS, IS FEMA LIKES TO SEE THE CITY DO WHAT THE CITY DOES, AND THEN AFTER THE EVENT THAT FEMA DOES NOT WANT US TO SEE MAKE DECISIONS BASED OFF WHETHER FEMA IS THERE OR NOT THERE.

RIGHT. SO YES, ABSOLUTELY. THAT POSITION IS THERE TO HELP COORDINATE A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE STATE.

BUT ALSO ON THE SLIDE, IT JUST BREEZED OVER. IT WAS THE F ROCK DISASTER READINESS ASSESSMENT.

SO WITH THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT ONLY DOES IT CHANGE THE FORMS THAT WE'RE USING, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THE STATE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES ONCE THEY HAVE OUR UNION CONTRACTS, OUR PAYROLL, LIKE EVERYTHING.

SO THEY ALSO HAVE WHEN WE OPT INTO F ROCK, WHICH WE HAVE, WE HAVE A SCORE.

DON'T QUOTE ME. I BELIEVE IT'S LIKE 50%, 58%, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD.

85 IS THE ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM YOU CAN GET. SO IF WE HAVE A DISASTER, THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL WHERE IF WE HAVE A LARGE PROJECT, THE STATE WILL FRONT US 58% OF WHATEVER THE COST OF THAT.

THAT PROJECT IS TO HELP GET THE MONEY SOONER, BECAUSE YES, IT DOES.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOES TAKE FEMA A WHILE, BUT I, I THINK I CAN'T SAY IT SOLIDLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE YET, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT QUICKER REIMBURSEMENTS.

OUR PAPERWORK'S IN ORDER. WE HAVE ALL OUR ACTIVITY.

ALL THE. I MEAN, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOCUMENTS ARE THERE AND READY.

SO WE'RE PUSHING FEMA ALONG AS FAST AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

LAST QUESTION IN REGARDS TO SANDBAGS WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CONCEPT OF HOW Y'ALL ARE LOOKING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE TIMELY? BECAUSE I HAD AN IDEA I WANTED TO RUN BY EVERYBODY, SEE WHAT THEY THOUGHT.

BUT I WENT TO ONE OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE SAW LAST YEAR WAS NOT PREPARATION.

RIGHT. SO AND TYPICALLY CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES DON'T DO SANDBAG OPERATIONS.

IT'S MORE OF A COUNTY LEVEL THING. BUT WHAT WE SAW WAS DAY OF THERE WAS A MAJOR TRAFFIC PROBLEM BASED OFF USING THE COLLEGE.

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SO PUBLIC WORKS PURCHASED A IT'S ESSENTIALLY LIKE A BIG FUNNEL.

RIGHT. AND YOU LOAD THE SAND IN IT AND THEN IT FILLS SANDBAGS.

I THINK IT'S LIKE 30 SANDBAGS A MINUTE THEY'RE ABLE TO DO.

I MEAN, IT'S WHEN THEY GET IT ROLLING IT'S REALLY FAST.

SO NOT ONLY CAN THEY FILL THE SANDBAGS FASTER, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON AND ALMOST HAVE THEM FINALIZED PLANS ON WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE DONE AND ALSO THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS SO THAT WE CAN ALLEVIATE.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE DON'T WANT TO INGEST MALABAR ROAD.

CERTAINLY MALABAR ROAD IN SAN FILIPPO, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE BLOCKED FOR SAFETY AND FOR IF THERE ARE EVACUATIONS, WE DON'T WANT THAT HAPPENING. SO WHEN YOU HAVE A YEAR TO PREPARE THESE PLANS AND GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER, MAKES IT HOPEFULLY A LITTLE BIT MORE SMOOTH AND EFFICIENT, I THINK THEY'LL DO A GOOD JOB THIS YEAR. OKAY, THE ONLY THING I WAS THINKING OF IN REGARDS TO ALLEVIATING TRAFFIC WE HAVE A LOT OF ABLE BODIED PEOPLE THAT CAN DO SOME WORK.

SO I WAS THINKING WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A LINE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE A DISABILITY TAG IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, IN THEIR CAR. SO THEY HAVE A LINE THAT THEY'RE GETTING ASSISTANCE.

BUT THOSE WHO ARE ABLE BODIED, ABLE TO DO THE WORK, THEY CAN LOAD UP THEIR SANDBAGS THEMSELVES.

JUST THE THOUGHT. NOT SURE IF THAT CAN WORK OR NOT, BUT THAT WAY YOU CAN VISIBLY SEE, OKAY, THIS PERSON HAS HAS A TAG OR THIS PERSON IS ELDERLY, OR THIS PERSON MAY NEED ASSISTANCE WHERE YOU HAVE JOHNNY, WHO'S 20 YEARS OLD, WHO'S ABLE TO DO IT, BUT HE'S JUST SITTING IN THE CAR AND THEY SEE HE CAN GET OUT AND DO SOMETHING.

SO JUST NOW, JUST A THOUGHT. NOT SURE IF IT'S WORTH IT, BUT JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

JUST YEAH, WE'LL DEFINITELY WE'LL CERTAINLY. RIGHT TEAM.

YEAH. YEAH. AND WHEN IT COMES TO NATURAL DISASTERS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THAT'S WHEN THERE, THERE IS NO COLOR OR CREED. EVERYBODY SEES ONE, YOU KNOW, COMMON ENEMY.

AND THAT'S JUST WORKING TOGETHER. AND THAT'S HOW WE NEED TO BE. SO THAT'S JUST WHERE I'M AT.

SO YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. IT'S ALL ABOUT TEAMWORK.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCIL SEEING NONE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION. AND I SAW FIRSTHAND LAST YEAR HOW THE WHOLE TEAM COLLABORATED WITH ONE ANOTHER EACH AND EVERY DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK. APPRECIATE YOU SIR.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. SO, DEPUTY MAYORS COLONEL SMITH HERE.

[PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]

OKAY. PROCLAMATION. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN.

COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. COME ON UP THERE. COLONEL SMITH.

GOOD EVENING. ALL RIGHT. LOOK AT THAT. ALL RIGHT.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. SO WE'RE HERE. WE HAVE LIEUTENANT COLONEL.

ALSO, COUNCILMAN MARCUS SMITH OF MELBOURNE. CITY COUNCIL NOTICE IN PROCLAMATION.

MEN'S HEALTH. MEN'S HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH JUNE 2025.

IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT WHEREAS MEN'S HEALTH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THEIR OVERALL WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND ADDRESSING MEN'S HEALTH ISSUES IS ESSENTIAL FOR BUILDING STRONG FAMILIES AND A VIBRANT SOCIETY.

AND WHEREAS THE STATISTICAL DATA INDICATES THAT MEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO FACE HEALTH CHALLENGES SUCH AS HEART DISEASE, DIABETES, PROSTATE AND OTHER CANCERS, AND MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, OFTEN DUE TO A LACK OF AWARENESS AND PREVENTATIVE CARE.

AND WHEREAS MEN'S HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH, OBSERVED EACH JUNE, SERVES AS A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN TO RAISE AWARENESS OF PREVENTABLE HEALTH PROBLEMS AND ENCOURAGES EARLY DETECTION AND TREATMENT OF DISEASE AMONG MEN AND BOYS.

AND WHEREAS MEN'S HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH IS A TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO RECOGNIZE THE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH NEEDS OF MEN AND BOYS, WHILE ENCOURAGING FATHERS TO BE ROLE MODELS FOR THEIR CHILDREN THROUGH PREVENTATIVE HEALTH SCREENINGS, HEALTHY LIVING AND SEEKING NEEDED HELP. AMEN.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY ACKNOWLEDGES THE IMPORTANCE OF PROMOTING HEALTHY LIFESTYLES, REGULAR EXERCISES AND ROUTINE MEDICAL CHECKUPS FOR MEN OF ALL AGES, RACES AND BACKGROUNDS.

AND WHEREAS, THE UPCOMING COCOA MERRITT ISLAND ALUMNI CHAPTER OF KAPPA ALPHA PSI FRATERNITY INCORPORATED, AND THE MEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION'S MEN'S HEALTH AND FITNESS SUMMIT SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, JUNE 27TH, 2026 AT EASTERN FLORIDA STATE COLLEGE'S MELBOURNE CAMPUS, AIMS TO PROVIDE MEN WITH RESOURCES, EDUCATION AND ACTIVITIES FOCUSED ON PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH.

AND WHEREAS, THE SUMMIT WILL FEATURE EXPERT LED WORKSHOPS, INTERACTIVE AND FITNESS SESSIONS, FREE HEALTH SCREENINGS AND A LOCAL VENDOR MARKETPLACE ALL DESIGNED TO EMPOWER MEN TO TAKE CHARGE OF THEIR HEALTH AND THEIR WELLBEING.

AND WHEREAS, THE CITY OF PALM BAY SUPPORTS INITIATIVES THAT ALIGN WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY, HEALTH, EDUCATION AND EMPOWERMENT. NOW, THEREFORE, I, KENNY JOHNSON, ON BEHALF OF MAYOR ROB MEDINA OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM AND RECOGNIZE JUNE 2025 AS MEN'S HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ASK ALL CITIZENS TO SUPPORT THE 2026

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THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

SO JUST A FEW WORDS. FIRST OFF, MAYOR, FELLOW COUNCIL GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL.

AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PROCLAMATION. AND AS MY AS MY FRIEND KENNY JOHNSON READ, THIS IS REALLY ABOUT PROMOTING MEN'S HEALTH AWARENESS MONTH AND THE MEN'S HEALTH AND FITNESS SUMMIT THAT WERE ORGANIZED FOR JUNE 27TH OF 2026.

THERE'S SO MANY VITAL WORDS THAT WE'RE STATING THERE. MAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF OUR HEALTH AS WELL AS WOMEN.

SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CREATE A, A SAFE SPACE AND AN EVENT TO WHERE MEN CAN COME TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT HEALTHY LIVING INITIATIVES.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU ALL WILL SUPPORT AND YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IT.

SO THANK YOU ALL. LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY, CITY OF MELBOURNE, AND MEETING ACROSS BREVARD COUNTY TO MAKE THIS EVENT SUCCESSFUL FOR NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. GOT US. ALL RIGHT.

THE TWO MEN WITH NO HAIR. I'M RIGHT BEHIND. YOU.

RIGHT BEHIND. US. SO WE'RE NOW ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION OF

[PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]

[CONSENT AGENDA:]

ANY OTHER ITEMS? COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO PULL THREE, FOUR AND EIGHT.

IS THAT WHY YOU BUZZED? YES, SIR. THAT WAS I WAS ASKING.

OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEM THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND EIGHT. SECOND. DO I HAVE A MOTION OR.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. AND SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM NUMBER ONE. MAYOR. BEFORE WE GO. MADAM SMITH.

YES, MA'AM. CARRY ON. ORDINANCE 2025 2022, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY,

[9. Ordinance 2025-22, amending the Code of Ordinances, Chapter 52, Boards, Subchapter ‘Risk Management Program’, by increasing the settlement authority of the Risk Management Committee, first reading.]

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. OKAY, WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, MISS SMITH.

[PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

FIVE. OH, AS YOU WERE. WE'RE ON. NUMBER FIVE.

OKAY. AND THAT IS TITLED ORDINANCE 2025. THAT'S 24, WHICH HAS BEEN AMENDED TO RESOLUTION 2025. AND THE CLERK WILL PROVIDE THE NUMBER BE A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES.

TITLE SEVEN LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCEDURES, SUBCHAPTER PART TWO, GENERAL PROCEDURES AND PART SIX SUBDIVISION, APPLICATION AND APPROVAL PROCESS THAT INCLUDING PROVISIONS FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.

A PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDED FOR INCLUSION.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR A SEVERABILITY CLAUSE PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

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CALL THEM FORWARD. YEP. LISA, PLEASE. THANK YOU.

WELCOME BACK. COUNCIL. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL.

THIS RESOLUTION NOW IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH HOUSE BILL 381, WHICH MANDATES THAT CERTAIN PLANT OR REPLANT SUBMITTALS BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED BY A DESIGNATED AUTHORITY AND DESIGNATED OFFICIAL AUTHORITY.

OFFICIAL WITH A SPECIFIC WITHIN A SPECIFIC TIME FRAME.

THE LEGISLATION ELIMINATES THE NEED FOR FURTHER ACTION BY A LOCAL GOVERNING BODY WHEN CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS ARE MET BY THE APPLICANT.

THIS REQUIRES REVISIONS TO COUNTY AND MUNICIPAL PLANNING PROCESSES ACROSS THE ENTIRE STATE.

AND THIS IS REQUIRED TO ALIGN WITH THE NEW STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.

SO THE CITY IS STATUTORILY COMPELLED TO MAKE THESE CHANGES TO OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES, IF I MAY. THE LEGISLATION HAS ABOUT FIVE TOP CHANGES THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED IN THIS NOW RESOLUTION AND TO FOLLOW WITH THE CODE OF ORDINANCE CHANGE LATER ON UNDER NEW BUSINESS.

SO NUMBER ONE IS DESIGNATION OF ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY AND ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL.

THOSE ARE THE CITY MANAGER AND OR THEIR DESIGNEE.

AND THEN OF COURSE OUR CITY SURVEYOR WOULD BE THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL IN REGARDS TO APPROVING PLANS.

OUR APPROVAL PROCESS IS NOW CHANGED TO ALL ADMINISTRATIVE.

IT IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE A QUASI JUDICIAL GOING TO PUBLIC HEARING.

WE THEY ARE REQUIRING WRITTEN NOTICE NOTIFICATION.

HOWEVER, WE ALREADY COMPLY WITH THAT IN REGARD TO OUR IMS SYSTEM OF PROCESSING AND GIVING NOTIFICATION TO THE APPLICANTS AS TO WHAT THEIR COMMENTS ARE, WHAT CHANGES THEY NEED TO BE, AND HOW THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.

IT HAS A PROHIBITION ON EXTENSION REQUESTS UNLESS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND THERE'S AN ISSUANCE OF INFORMATION THAT REGARDING ADDRESSING AND PARCEL IDS, AND THAT REALLY IS INCUMBENT UPON THE COUNTY.

THAT'S ALL UNDER THE COUNTY'S AUTHORITY FOR THE CITY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THROUGH THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF CHAPTER 172 IT'S FAIRLY BRIEF. UNDER GENERAL PROCEEDINGS, WE'RE CHANGING TABLE 170 2-1 TO BECOME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THESE MODIFICATIONS AS FAR AS EVERYTHING BECOMING ADMINISTRATIVE. AS INSTEAD OF MOVING TOWARD IN THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

SECTIONS ONE, 72, 052 AND 053. ADDRESS PRELIMINARY PLANTS AND FINAL PLATS PROVIDING AGAIN FOR THE AUTHORITIES IN CHARGE AND FOLLOWING FLORIDA STATUTE 177, WHICH THAT IS WHAT IS OUTLINED IN THE CODE TODAY WE FOLLOW FLORIDA STATUTE 177, WHICH IS THE SUBDIVISION LAW THAT YOU KNOW, SETS THE STANDARDS THAT RELATE TO SUBDIVISION OF LAND, SUCH AS MONUMENTS. YOU ALL GET THAT.

SO I DON'T NEED TO ELABORATE. 172 055 IS BEEN MODIFIED TALKING ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE AND MAINTENANCE OF BONDS, AGAIN, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ALIGN. WHO WILL BE IN CHARGE OF NOT ONLY APPROVING THE PLANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FINALIZED FOR OUR PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, IF YOU WILL, AND THEN ALSO SETTING THE MANAGERS, THE DESIGNEE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PERFORMANCE BOND IS LEGALLY COMPELLING TO TO FINALIZE THE PLAT.

172 061 IS TALKING ABOUT REPLANTING OF LAND, WHICH IS UNDER THE SAME ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS.

AND WITH THAT STAFF, OF COURSE, IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.

AND I AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YES, MA'AM.

I JUST WANT YOU TO HIGHLIGHT ONE THING HERE. YES, SIR.

AND THAT WAS IT'S IT'S THE LAW. YES. IT'S NOW THE ADMINISTRATIVE.

THIS HAS ITS LAW NOW. SO THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT COMING BACK TO US, I WANTED YOU TO STRESS THAT.

THAT IT'S NOT OUR DOING. YES, SIR. IT IS A FLORIDA STATUTE THAT HAS BEEN SIGNED BY THE, THE, THE, THE GOVERNOR AT THIS POINT. AND SO WE ARE LEGALLY COMPELLED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PLANNING PROCESS IS NOW ADMINISTRATIVELY

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IT IS COMPULSORY. IT IS NOT OPTIONAL. SO WE'RE BRINGING OUR CODE INTO COMPLIANCE.

I AM RECOMMENDING I THINK THE CODE PROVIDES, BUT MY INTENTION IS TO DESIGNATE THE CITY SURVEYOR THAT RESPONSIBLE OFFICIAL.

I DID MEET WITH JOE HALE, ASK IF HE NEEDED ANY ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OR ACCOMMODATION.

HE FEELS COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS. AND HE'S THE ONE REVIEWING THE PLATS ANYWAY.

AND THEN ALSO, I THINK PART OF THE RESPONSE ON THE BONDING IS I ASKED STAFF TO EXAMINE THE BONDING TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CONFIDENT OR COMFORTABLE WITH THE CURRENT 125% PROPORTION OF THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR BONDING. I THINK THAT'S UNDER REVIEW TO MAKE SURE.

AND THEN THERE'LL ALSO BE AN ASSESSMENT COMING FORWARD IN THE BUDGET CYCLE JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE.

OUR REVIEW FEES ARE JUST IN KEEPING WITH THE INCREASE OF THE WORKLOAD WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO.

THANK YOU. AND DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN HAMMERED STAND FAST BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS NEXT.

MADAM ATTORNEY. YES, I DID WANT TO SPEAK BECAUSE I KNOW WE CHANGED IT.

INITIALLY, THIS WAS TO BE DRAFTED AS A RESOLUTION, WHICH JUST TO PROVIDE BECAUSE THE STATUTE PROVIDES IT TO BE A RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE, ESSENTIALLY HAD TO STATE WHO THE PERSON THE DESIGNATED PERSON WAS, STAFF DECIDED TO DO AND ORDINANCE INSTEAD. WHEN IT WAS A RESOLUTION, IT JUST PULLED EVERYTHING OUT THAT WAS IN THE CODE.

NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE IS ESSENTIALLY MODIFYING THE AMENDING THE ORDINANCE, LEAVING THE LANGUAGE IN THERE, BUT MAKING CHANGES.

SO IN ESSENCE, YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO TWO THINGS.

YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION WHICH JUST DESIGNATES THE LISA.

YOU'LL BE FINE. OKAY. DESIGNATES THE CITY SURVEYOR SURVEYOR AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERSON.

AND THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST GOING TO CHANGE THE ACTUAL THE CODE BECAUSE ONLY AN ORDINANCE COME IN AND AN ORDINANCE, WE COULD HAVE TAKEN ALL OF THIS THINGS OUT OF THIS ORDINANCE AND PUT IT IN A RESOLUTION, BUT WE DIDN'T.

THAT'S INITIALLY HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE. BUT SINCE WE'VE GOT THIS SEPARATE ORDINANCE, WE'LL KEEP EVERYTHING IN THERE.

BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE SECOND READING BACK. BUT BY GOING AHEAD AND DOING THE RESOLUTION.

YOU'LL HAVE IT DONE TODAY. AND YOU ALL CAN DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO BRING THESE PEOPLE UP FOR A HEARING ON THE PLATS, OR IF YOU'RE GOING TO JUST HAVE JOE HILL SIGN OFF AND LET THEM BE ON THEIR WAY.

BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO AN ORDINANCE, BUT WE DID.

AND SO THIS JUST MAKES IT WORK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR.

YEAH. MY QUESTION IS. WE DON'T HAVE TO USE THE CITY SURVEYOR.

CORRECT. IT CAN BE ANYBODY ADMINISTRATIVE THAT THE CITY MANAGER DEEMS DEEMS IT TO BE CORRECT.

CORRECT, SIR. BUT I BELIEVE THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN HERE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WE ARE DESIGNATING IT AS THE CITY SURVEYOR.

MY ISSUE WITH THAT IS, AT SOME POINT WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY THAT LIVES OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY MAKING DECISIONS FOR THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY.

SO I, I'M, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME, SOME SORT OF AN SOP FOR THIS POSITION AND NOT JUST, HEY, YOU HAVE NEW RESPONSIBILITIES.

IT'S ALL THIS. SO, I MEAN, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME GUIDELINES BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF A LOT ON ONE PERSON WHO WHO, YOU KNOW, IS JUST OUR SURVEYOR. THANK YOU.

MADAM ATTORNEY AND THEN DEPUTY MAYOR. YES. I DO WANT TO SPEAK.

JUST AS WHEN IT CAME TO COUNCIL, I WOULD OFTEN TELL YOU, AS FAR AS THE PLOTS, ONCE YOU MEET THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT THE LAW HAS BEEN. COUNCIL HAS NO DISCRETION.

IT'S THE SAME FOR THE CITY SURVEYOR OR WHOEVER.

WE DESIGNATE WHAT HAS TO BE IN A PLAN AND FOR IT TO BE LEGAL COMPLIANT.

IT'S IN THE STATUTE. IT'S REALLY IT DOESN'T MEAN THIS, THAT, THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER THERE IS NOT LIKE THIS.

THERE'S NOT DISCRETION. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS IF YOU'RE DECIDING WHETHER YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE LAND USE, OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO A REZONE OR A CONDITIONAL USE.

IT IS VERY MUCH FORMALISTIC. THERE ARE THINGS ON THERE.

CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, THE SURVEYORS HAS SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHETHER THEY'RE MEETING THOSE OBLIGATIONS.

BUT THERE ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, AND HE'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE STATUTE IS BEING FOLLOWED.

THANK YOU. AND ALSO, I'M SORRY, DEPUTY MAYOR.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO JUST JUST FOR CLARITY, FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE ROOM, I KNOW THIS IS A VERY CONFUSING TOPIC.

THE FINAL PLAT APPROVAL IS DONE AFTER LONG AFTER A PROJECT WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL,

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THE VOICE OF YOUR BEING ABLE TO WEIGH IN ON A PROJECT IS NOT BEING TAKEN AWAY.

THIS IS THE END WHERE THE PROJECT HAS BEEN APPROVED, POSSIBLY A YEAR OR EVEN TWO YEARS AGO.

ALL THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, AGREEING THAT THE PROJECT WAS BUILT AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.

AND THERE'S NOBODY BETTER TO UNDERSTAND THE DRAWINGS THAN A SURVEYOR.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IS IF FOR SOME REASON THE SURVEY WAS NOT AVAILABLE OR WERE NO LONGER HAVE IN-HOUSE SURVEYOR AND WE'RE USING A CONSULTING FIRM THAT IT SHOULD BE SURVEYOR OR CITY MANAGER DESIGNATE.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE MORE QUESTION.

WHY IN SUBSECTION D IS IT TAKING OUT THE THE COURTESY NOTICE LETTERS WITHIN 500FT? BECAUSE, SIR, THIS WILL NO LONGER BE A GOING TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IT'LL JUST BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED. AND WE DO NOT.

IT REMOVES ALL PUBLIC NOTICING. OKAY. IT'S AT THAT POINT.

IT'S A MOOT POINT, COUNCILMAN. YEAH, IT'S A MOOT POINT.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANK YOU SIR. AT THIS TIME, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM BY SHOW OF HANDS, MASTER CHIEF AND PAT. I GOT A CARD FOR PAT DUPREE.

OKAY, WELL. SHE DIDN'T NEED IT. BILL 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I HAVE SEVEN ITEMS TO ADDRESS ON THIS ITEM.

NUMBER ONE, WHEN GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, YOU HAVE TEN DAYS FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

I'VE BEEN IN THE CITY LONG ENOUGH. WE HAVE A HARD TIME ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING IN TEN DAYS.

ITEM NUMBER TWO. NO NOTICE TO RESIDENTS WITHIN FIVE WITHIN 500FT.

WE'RE NOT NOTIFYING THEM. YOU SAY. WELL, WE'RE COVERING THAT FROM THE PREVIOUS SETUPS.

IT'S NICE TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

RIGHT. SO BECAUSE THERE'S NO NOTICE, THERE WILL BE NO INPUT ON THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF THE PLAN AND THERE WILL BE NO INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS. ITEM NUMBER THREE THE CITY SURVEYOR BEING RESPONSIBLE.

I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS ALWAYS HAD A SURVEYOR PROBLEM, TRYING TO KEEP THEM EMPLOYED AND KEEP THEM ON STAFF.

WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT PROBLEM. WE'VE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD SUCH A BIG PROBLEM THAT WE WERE HAVING THE DEVELOPERS USE THEIR OWN SURVEYOR SUBMITTING THEIR OWN PAPERWORK.

IT WAS THAT BAD. BUT THAT'S WHO WE'RE NOW GOING TO HAVE REPRESENTING US.

GOOD JOB. RIGHT, SURVEYOR? THE CONTRACTORS USING THEIR OWN SURVEYORS TO SIGN OFF ON THE PROJECT.

GREAT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. POINT OF INTEREST FROM LAST NIGHT'S PLANNING AND ZONING.

THEY GAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BROUGHT UP AT TONIGHT'S MEETING.

AND IT WAS VERY PERTINENT ON WHO YOU HAD IN THERE.

SO I'D PREFER, LIKE BEFORE YOU VOTE ON IT, THAT YOU GET A LOOK AT LAST NIGHT'S PMC MEETING'S MINUTES AND BRING THEM INTO THIS DISCUSSION.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS IS YOU WILL BE JUST AS IGNORANT OF THE PLANT LAYOUT AS THE RESIDENCE.

THAT'S THE ONLY GOOD INPUT. YOU'LL BE JUST AS IGNORANT AS THE RESIDENTS.

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE CUT OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT PROCESS? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU. TALLAHASSEE DID IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO US.

RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER SIX. THIS IS JUST LIKE YOU CUT US OUT OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCESS.

IT'S THE SAME IDENTIFIABLE BEHAVIOR, JUST WITH A DIFFERENT TITLE.

ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. THIS IS A PROPOSAL ON HOW TO MAKE THE PUBLIC HAPPY.

ALONG WITH MY CITY COUNCIL BEING HAPPY. WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY APPLICATION.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CHANGED NOW. LET'S HAVE A PRE PRELIMINARY APPLICATION WHERE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING IS WHAT WE STILL GET THE ABILITY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO DO. IT'S NOT THEIR APPLICATION. IT'S A PRE-APPLICATION.

YOU'RE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THAT.

I BROUGHT IT UP LAST NIGHT AT THE PNC, AND THE CITY CITY ATTORNEY SAYS NO, THAT'LL PISS OFF TALLAHASSEE IF WE DO THAT.

WELL, YOU'RE MY GOVERNMENT, NOT TALLAHASSEE FOR MY CITY GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? LET'S LET THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN 500FT BE KNOW, KNOWLEDGEABLE OF HOW THE PLAN LAYS OUT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS PAT.

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MY QUESTION IS, I'M SURE EVERY CITY IN THIS STATE IS GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BECAUSE THE CITIZENS WANT TO HAVE INPUT.

WE'VE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT GROWTH AND HOW STAFF HAS APPROVED ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT COMES DOWN THE DOCKET, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SAY A WORD.

AND THESE PUBLIC NOTICES, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND THEY MISS THE MEETINGS.

THEY DON'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO THE BUILDER.

SO IS THERE A PROCESS? YOU GUYS HAVE A LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING IN AUGUST FOR JULY? AUGUST. HOW ABOUT THE LEAGUE OF CITIES DISCUSS THIS AND WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE BECAUSE THEY'RE REMOVING OUR HOME RULE, RIGHT? SO WE NEED TO SPEAK UP. THANK YOU. YEAH, I THINK WE'VE.

EVEN THE LIVE LOCAL ACT WAS DEVASTATING FOR OUR CITY.

I CAN I CAN TELL YOU THAT. SO I'VE GOT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.

OKAY. IN THAT SAME ORDER, PLEASE, IF YOU COULD.

COME ON. CLOSER. KEN DELGADO, 154 ANGELO ROAD, WROTE SOUTHEAST.

I'M JUST CURIOUS. I KNOW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD TO GO TO SUPREME COURT TO PULL IN ROGUE JUSTICES.

I KNOW SOMETIMES THE ONE ONE COUNTY SUES ANOTHER COUNTY.

OR ONE STATE SUES ANOTHER STATE. IS THERE ANY TIME WHEN THE CITY STANDS UP FOR CITY RIGHTS AND SUES THE STATE AND SAY, YOU'RE YOU'RE OUT OF OUT OF ORDER? THIS IS HOME RULE.

THIS IS NOT YOUR PREROGATIVE, NOR IS IT YOUR PURVIEW.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT A LEGAL EXPERT. SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY. WELL. NO, SIR. THE STATE IS ABLE TO ENACT LAWS TO. IF THE STATE DOESN'T ACT UPON IT, THEN IT'S WITHIN OUR HOME RULE.

BUT IF THE STATE ACTS UPON IT, THEN WE MUST FOLLOW WHAT THE STATE DOES, AND WE CAN LEGISLATE CONCURRENTLY, SO LONG AS THEY HAVEN'T PREEMPTED THE FIELD. AND WE'RE NOT CONFLICTING.

AND THIS CASE IS PRETTY MUCH THEY'VE PREEMPTED THE FIELD.

THEY'VE COMPLETELY DECIDED HOW THAT THE PLATT APPROVAL PROCESS MUST WORK AND GIVEN SPECIFIC TIMELINES AND REQUIREMENTS.

THANK YOU. BUTCH. YOU WERE NEXT. ROUND TWO, 19 TRENTON AVENUE.

I'M JUST NO DUMB BOY FROM KENTUCKY. I NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN DOES THE PUBLIC HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THESE MAJOR HOMEBUILDERS THAT'S GOING ON? I HAVE NO IDEA WHEN I SHOULD BE HERE OR WHEN I SHOULDN'T.

AND NOW, WITH ALL THESE CHANGES, IT'S TOTALLY CONFUSING.

SO IF SOMEONE COULD LET ME KNOW, WHAT MEETING IS IT? THE P AND Z? IS IT SOME SECRET MEETING THAT EVERYBODY'S HAVING OR WHAT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY OR CITY MANAGER, WHICHEVER WAY.

A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S A LAND USE IF THERE'S LAND USE AND ZONING.

BUT AS FAR AS WHAT GOES WHERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE PRELIMINARY IN THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, AND THOSE ARE PASSED BEFORE YOU GET TO THE PLOT.

ESSENTIALLY, THEY'VE GOT THOSE PLANS, THE PLOTS, PUTTING IT DOWN OUT AND LAYING IT OUT.

SO YOUR REAL OBJECTION TO IT, IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, ISN'T WHEN YOU GET TO THE PLOT.

IS THAT THE PRELIMINARY AND THE FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN STAGE? THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT. MA'AM. MA'AM. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME. MY NAME IS LAURA HIRSCH HARRIS. I LIVE IN 27, 20, 27 MUIRFIELD WAY.

I'M A CONSERVATIONIST AND ECOLOGY EDUCATOR AND SOMETHING.

AND I LIVE RIGHT. I DON'T LIVE ON THE GOLF COURSE, BUT IT'S BEHIND WHERE I LIVE.

AND SOME THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED THERE ARE. WE HAVE, TO AT LEAST ONE ACTIVE NEST OF SANDHILL CRANES, WHICH ARE PROTECTED SPECIES, GOPHER TORTOISES AND SOME REPORTS OF THE SCRUB JAY, WHICH IS A PROTECTED SPECIES, AND. OWLS, LOTS OF ANIMALS. AND ALSO WHEN THE RAIN FALLS, THOSE WETLAND, THAT BIG WETLAND AREA WHICH HAS BECOME AN ESTABLISHED ECOSYSTEM.

THERE'S A LOT OF ANIMALS AND WATER. I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THIS LANDS FOR ANYBODY.

THIS IS HOW DOES THIS THIS RELATES? BECAUSE IF YOU IF WE BUILD UPON THAT, NOT ONLY THOSE PROTECT I DON'T KNOW IF THOSE PROTECTED SPECIES ARE BEING CONSIDERED IN THIS. I KNOW THIS IS REALLY IF THEY'RE BUILDING ON THAT GOLF COURSE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THIS, THEY'RE BREAKING THE LAW. I DON'T THINK I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE DISCUSSING.

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WHAT IS THIS AND WHAT ARE YOU ALL REALLY TALKING ABOUT THEN? WE'RE ABOUT ZONING, RIGHT? NO, MA'AM. NO. WELL, THIS THIS WILL THEN I GUESS THAT THIS IS THIS IS JUST IN RELATION TO THAT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BUT WHEN THERE IS A TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

THERE WAS ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I DON'T I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO BE DISCUSSING ANYTHING WITH I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO GET ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I THINK THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE HOW DO WE KNOW WHEN TO SPEAK AND WHEN NOT TO SPEAK? YES, MA'AM. IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT PERHAPS WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB OF AS PEOPLE WALK IN AND CHECK TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE ON SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING THE GOLF COURSE. OKAY. IT SOUNDED RELATED.

YEAH. AND WE'RE DEALING WITH THE AGENDA ITEM, AND IT'S NOT RELATED.

SO I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT THE EDEN GOLF COURSE BECAUSE I HEARD THAT, BUT YEAH.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THERE WAS ANOTHER SPEAKER. RUTH. RUTH. RUTH COUPLE.

RUTH COUPLE. YOU WERE NEXT. YOU WERE NUMBER FOUR.

MAN. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT UNFORTUNATELY, STAFF IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE EVERY SINGLE THING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE HB 381 WAS LAID ON THE TABLE IN APRIL. IT IS NOT THE ONE THAT SHOULD BE REFERRED TO AND COMPARED AGAINST IN ALL OF OUR ORDINANCE.

IT SHOULD BE. SENATE BILL 784. OKAY. SO EVEN THE HOUSE BILL THAT'S BEING REFERENCED IS INCORRECT.

SO NOW ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EVEN REFERENCE THE RIGHT BILL THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE. SO WHEN I WENT LOOKING FOR IT, I SAW IT AND IT WAS LAID ON THE TABLE IN APRIL.

SO THE BILL THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING IS NOT A VALID BILL.

JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT BECAUSE I HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SAYS IT WAS LAID ON THE TABLE.

SO FOR THE PARLIAMENTARIANS IN THE ROOM, THAT MEANS IT'S DONE.

SO YOU NEED TO CATCH UP. GET TO THE RIGHT ONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. RUTH. MADAM ATTORNEY, SHE MAY BE REFERENCING THE LEGISLATIVE MEMO, BUT AS FAR AS THE SUBSTANTIVELY, YES, IT WAS THERE WAS A THE BILL WAS SUBSTITUTED FOR 784.

IT WAS ADOPTED IN THE CHAPTER 2020 5-1 64, WHICH IS WHAT WAS SIGNED OFF.

AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WAS SIGNED OFF. I'M NOT SURE IF THE OTHER ONE IS REFERENCED.

IF IT IS, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS IN THIS ACTUAL ORDINANCE.

IT MAY BE IN THE LEGISLATIVE MEMO. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PRIOR REFERENCE IS.

IT'S NOT. IT'S DEFINITELY NOT IN THE IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.

OH, YEAH. SO, MADAM ATTORNEY. WHERE ARE WE DOING? DO WE NEED TO BRING THIS BACK? NO, SIR. IF THERE IS A SCRIVENER AREA ERROR THAT CAN BE FIXED.

BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL BILL. ACTUALLY, THE BETTER POINT.

WE DID CITE THE CHAPTER WHICH IS 2020 5-1 64 OR THE AMENDED SECTION OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES, WHICH IS THE SECTION 177 .071 FLORIDA STATUTES.

BECAUSE THE STATUTE IS IN EFFECT NOW, IT WAS BECAME IN EFFECT JULY 1ST.

UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

OH, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING MINUTES, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

OH, WHAT WAS THE FIRST ONE? GO AHEAD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS REFERENCED.

OH, YES. I ASKED FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT.

IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS BROUGHT UP BY BILL BRATTON THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, IF I MAY.

YES, MA'AM. IT IS A REVISED MEMO, MA'AM. JUST WHAT WHAT WERE THEY? WHAT WERE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IT IN OUR OUR IN OUR AGENDA.

THAT'S ALL THE PLANNING AND ZONING. WHAT WERE THEY RECOMMENDING, SIR? YEP. IT WAS IN A REVISED MEMO THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED.

IF YOU DID NOT. WE APOLOGIZE. IT WAS IN A REVISED MEMO THAT I HAVE A COPY OF AND IT STATES THE MOTION AND THE SECOND FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDATIONS AND WHAT THEY THEY RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL

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OUR CITY OF PALM BAY EMPLOYEES AND NOT CONTRACTORS.

THAT WAS THEIR CONDITION FOR APPROVAL. AND I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE THAT.

NO, I SEE. I SEE IT NOW. I MISSED IT. WISH FOR CLARITY.

THAT WAS MY RECOMMENDATION AS WELL. OKAY. SO.

YEAH. WELL, THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. I'M GOOD.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC. OR IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ASKING FOR A MAYOR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TO PASS THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.

OH, SORRY. IT'S A RESOLUTION NOW. I GOT IT, I LET ME HELP.

I'M GOING TO NEED A RESOLUTION, AND I'M GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO PASS RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 2525.

AND THAT'S THE RESOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO DESIGNATE THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE OR THE SURVEYOR AS THE ADMINISTRATOR OR DESIGNEE. DESIGNEE. OKAY. AND THEN YOU ALL WILL PASS ORDINANCE 2025.

THAT'S 2024. OR YOU WILL VOTE ON IT HOWEVER YOU THINK.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON PASSING THE RESOLUTION AS READ BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND AND THE ORDINANCE AS WELL.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THE CLERK WILL BE A LOT HAPPIER WITH ME.

TWO MOTIONS. OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGFORD.

SECOND, I GOT A SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE 20 2524. OH, SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN LANDSMAN.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. GENTLEMEN, WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER ONE.

PUBLIC HEARING, MISS SMITH. ORDINANCE 20 2523, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 21 BLOCK, 2018 PORT MALABAR UNIT 46, ACCORDING TO THE PLOT THEREOF, AS RECORDED IN PLAT 22, PAGE 62 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. MORTON, DID YOU WANT TO PRESENT THIS CASE OR.

YES. OKAY. CARRY ON. SO WE DO HAVE A REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF THE EASEMENT.

IT'S THE EAST. TEN FEET OF THE WEST. 20FT OF A PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

THERE WAS NO OBJECTION. AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT IT WAS ACCEPTABLE TO VACATE FROM CITY STAFF AS WELL.

FLORIDA POWER AND LIGHT, AT&T AND SPECTRUM, WHO WERE AT LEAST USERS IN THE AREA, HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATION.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT CITY POLICY DOES ALLOW FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE VACATION REQUEST FOR THE FIRST TEN FEET.

AND STAFF FOUND NO OBVIOUS ISSUES OR CONFLICT, AND NO ADVERSE COMMENTS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THIS PORTION OF THE EASEMENT.

THANK YOU. COUNSEL. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PATIENT.

PRESENT YOUR CASE. THANK YOU GUYS FOR HAVING US.

GOD BLESS AMERICA. APPRECIATE IT. WELL, YOU HAVE TO PRESENT YOUR CASE NOW.

WELL, SO IS THERE SOME BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN TURNED DOWN BY EVERY POOL COMPANY.

AND BECAUSE WE FIGURED IT OUT, IT WAS BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG EASEMENT IN THE REAR OF OUR PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GAIN THOSE TEN FEET SO WE CAN BUILD A POOL FOR OUR KIDS.

SO YOU WANT A POOL FOR YOUR CHILDREN? YES. THAT'S AWESOME.

THANK YOU. DON'T GO ANYWHERE. GO AND HAVE A SEAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ASKING FOR A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO PASS ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 23 SECOND.

GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THERE'LL BE A SECOND READING.

OKAY. YOU GOT PAST THE FIRST HERE. ALL RIGHT, MADAM SMITH, PUBLIC HEARING TO.

WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. ARE WE GOING? ARE WE GOING TO ACTUALLY OPEN UP THE HEARINGS FOR PUBLIC

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THEY CAN JUST BE SIGNED OFF NOW BASED UPON THE RESOLUTION.

YOU JUST ARE. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON THE AGENDA. THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRESENT ON THE AGENDA, NOT BECAUSE YOU VOTED ON SOMETHING PREVIOUS TO TAKE IT AWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S ON THE AGENDA AND THAT'S YOUR RULES.

WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ADDRESS. ALL RIGHT, MASTER CHIEF, THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO, MADAM. MADAM SMITH. MADAM. SMITH.

ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT, SIR. THAT'S IT. MADAM SMITH.

MADAM SMITH, ITEM NUMBER TWO. THE QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.

ARE YOU OPENING THE ACTUAL QUASI HEARING? YES, MA'AM.

YOU WANT ME TO READ THE RULES? YES, MA'AM. SHOULD WE HAVE A COUNCIL VOTE? BECAUSE IF IF YOU LIKE. CERTAINLY. IF COUNCIL WANTED TO.

THE QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING ISN'T NECESSARY. IF COUNCIL JUST WANTED TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON IT, IT COULD WITHOUT ACTUALLY OPENING IT UP TO HEARING.

BECAUSE YOU YOU ALL DO NOT NEED TO ACTUALLY VOTE ON THE FLAP.

BUT IF YOU ALL WANTED TO ALLOW COMMENTS ON IT BECAUSE THE ISSUES, THE THE QUASI ITSELF IS MOOT AT THIS POINT.

UNDERSTOOD. BUT I, I DO AGREE WITH MASTER CHIEF THAT IF IT WAS ON THE AGENDA, THEY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK ON IT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S THE MAYOR'S POINT OF VIEW. SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT, I AGREE WE SHOULD HAVE THEM ON THE SPEAKER CARDS.

OKAY. SO THEN I'M OPENING UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GO AHEAD AND READ OFF THE SPEAKER CARD SIR. BILL BATTEN.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I SPEND A LOT OF TIME GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA AND PAYING ATTENTION AND TRYING TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S IN THERE.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES TWO READINGS, AND THEN YOU DECIDE TO CHANGE THAT TO A RESOLUTION WHICH ONLY REQUIRES ONE READING AND IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE, AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE WELL CHANGED THE RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS.

100%. I CAME PREPARED, I DID MY HOMEWORK ON THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS MY GOVERNMENT.

THAT BEING SAID, IT JUST REITERATES ONE MORE TIME HOW MY CITY COUNCIL IS TRYING TO DEPRIVE THE RESIDENTS OF THEIR ABILITY TO ADDRESS THEIR GOVERNMENT. ALL RIGHT.

HERE'S THE NOTES THAT I MADE UP FOR TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING.

NUMBER TWO, REPLANT OF A SUBDIVISION. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STRAIGHT AND FORWARD, A REPLAY. I UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVE TO BRING IT FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE HOUSE LAYOUTS.

THERE WAS A PIPE PROBLEM. I REALLY DO DO MY HOMEWORK.

THERE WAS A PIPE THAT WAS IN THE WAY, BUT IT'S UNDER THE PRINCIPLE OF REPLANNING THE OVERALL CONCEPT RE PLAT OF A SUBDIVISION WITH PASSING OF PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER FIVE, WHICH YOU JUST DID.

ACTIONS LIKE THIS WILL KEEP YOU AS UNINFORMED AS YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT OR. COUNCILMAN. LANDFILL.

YES, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE RESOLUTION THAT WE JUST PASSED AND THE REASON THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A THING, IS BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW AND THE GOVERNOR SIGNED IT.

SO WE ARE NOT TRYING TO TAKE THIS AWAY FROM PEOPLE.

WE'RE A CITY CHARTER BY THE STATE. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW CITY LAW.

ALL IT IS THAT WE WERE JUST PASSING WAS A CLEAN UP IN OUR OWN BOOKS, SO THAT WE MATCHED THE STATE LAW.

SO WHILE WE'VE DONE OTHER ACTIONS IN THE PAST, THIS PARTICULAR ACTION IS LITERALLY JUST US FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW.

THANK YOU. WAS THERE ANOTHER SPEAKER FOR THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT. SEEING NONE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER THREE.

ARE THERE SPEAKER CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE? BILL BAD. OKAY. STEP FORWARD, MASTER CHIEF. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. I UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT HERE.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M QUESTIONING. I UNDERSTAND AND TALLAHASSEE PUT US HERE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS, AND I EVEN PRESENTED IT, THAT THERE WAS A MECHANISM BY WHICH YOU, AS MY GOVERNMENT, COULD STILL ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT MY STATE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO REGULATE ME ON.

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ALL RIGHT. PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER THREE REPLIED OF A SUBDIVISION WITH PASSING THE OF PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER FIVE WHICH YOU JUST DID. ACTIONS LIKE THIS WILL KEEP YOU JUST AS UNINFORMED.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT IT. IT'S YOU WILL BE JUST AS UNINFORMED AS THE RESIDENTS.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING THAT DOES COME INTO PLAY, WHEN YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT, THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED WHEN YOU GOT THERE AND YOU SAID WHAT IS BEING CANCELED, YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PROCESS OF WHAT REQUIRES QUASI JUDICIAL AND WHAT IS ADMINISTRATIVELY PRESENTED.

THAT'S UNDER YOUR GENERAL PROVISIONS, ARTICLE 172.010.

RIGHT. AND IT'S UNDER SUBDIVISIONS. THAT'S WHERE THIS ONLY PLAT WAS SUPPOSEDLY BEING CHANGED WITHIN YOUR SUBDIVISION PLATS.

BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT, ALL YOUR OTHER PLATS ARE GOING TO BECOME AFFECTED BY HAVING A PRELIMINARY PRE PLAT. THE CITIZENS WOULD STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON.

THAT'S ALL I'M REQUESTING. I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT SO THE CITIZENS AREN'T SHAFTED BY THE GOVERNMENT DOING STUFF WITH ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION.

THAT'S NOT IN THE LIMELIGHT OF THE PUBLIC. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS IT ANY TIGHTER THAN THAT, OR A MECHANISM WHICH WE WANT TO BE ENGAGED WITH YOU.

AND EVERY TIME, BECAUSE SOMEBODY SAYS, OH, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND YOU CAN'T ADDRESS IT ANYMORE.

NO, YOU CAN STILL FIND A MECHANISM TO DO IT. AND IT'S CALLED A PRE PRELIMINARY.

AND ALL THAT'S SAYING IS WE'RE ASKING THE DEVELOPERS TO TELL US, THE CITIZENS WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR THEIR PRELIMINARY PAPERWORK, AND THE PUBLIC WOULD STILL BE ADDRESSED AND THE PUBLIC WOULD STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM ATTORNEY. YES, MAYOR.

SECTION 177 .071. FLORIDA STATUTES IS AMENDED TO READ.

AND WHEN YOU GET TO SUBSECTION TWO WITHIN SEVEN BUSINESS DAYS AFTER RECEIPT OF A PLAT OR PLAT SUBMITTAL, THE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY SHALL PROVIDE WRITTEN NOTICE TO THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGING RECEIPT OF THE PLOT OR PLAT SUBMITTAL, AND IDENTIFYING ANY MISSING DOCUMENTS OR INFORMATION NECESSARY TO PROCESS THE PLAT OR PLAT SUBMITTAL FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 177 .091.

AND THEN IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE NOTICE OF AND THEN THREE.

UNLESS THE APPLICANT REQUESTS AN EXTENSION OF TIME, THE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY SHALL APPROVE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONS OR DENY THE PLAT OR PLAT SUBMITTAL WITH A TIMEFRAME IDENTIFIED IN THE WRITTEN NOTICE.

IF THE ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY DOES NOT APPROVE THE PLAT OR REPLY, IT MUST NOTIFY THE APPLICANT FOR THE REASONS, AND IT MUST NOTIFY ALL AREAS OF COMPLIANCE. AND IT IS ONLY THE APPLICANT THAT CAN REQUEST AN EXTENSION, AND THE CITY CANNOT REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO REQUEST AN EXTENSION.

SO THE TIME FRAME STARTS ONCE THAT APPLICATION FOR A PLOT IS SUBMITTED.

THERE IS NO TIME FOR US TO INSERT ANOTHER PROCESS IN WHICH THE THERE IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE JUST ISN'T A WAY THE STATUTE IS WRITTEN.

THERE IS NO WAY FOR US TO COMPLY WITH THAT AND CREATE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT JUST IS NO WAY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU MA'AM.

WE ARE NOW ON ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? OKAY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. YES, MA'AM.

YES. YES. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. MORTON. SO I'VE GOT STAFF HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

IT IS AS WE AS I'VE TALKED EARLIER, IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

I'M NOT GOING TO PRETEND TO BE AN EXPERT ON CDBG, BUT DENISE CARTER IS THANKFULLY, SHE'S BEEN DOING A LONG TIME, AND I'D ASK HER TO ADDRESS COUNCIL WITH THE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE AT IN TERMS OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD AND WHERE WE STAND WITH THE THE FEDERAL GRANT AND OPPORTUNITIES WE DO OR DO NOT

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AND I KNOW THIS IS A SPECIAL NICHE. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, MAN, FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO.

THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. THE CITY'S ACTION PLAN PROCESS IS A LONG PROCESS THAT STARTED BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2024, WHEN WE TOOK A CHANGE TO THE CITY'S COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY BOARD, AND THEY APPROVED IT AFTER IMPLEMENTING THE ACTION PLAN PROCESS. IT HAS TAKEN US OVER TEN MONTHS TO DO THAT.

WE ADVERTISE THE AVAILABILITY OF THE PLAN ON JUNE 3RD FOR A 30 DAY COMMENT PERIOD THAT'S ENDING THIS EVENING.

THE 2025 ACTION PLAN IS THE CITY OF PALM BAYS APPLICATION TO HUD FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, BLOCK GRANT AND HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM FUNDING FOR PROGRAM YEAR 2526 COVERING THE PERIOD OF OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH OF 2026. THE ACTION PLAN IDENTIFIES SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES THE CITY WILL UNDERTAKE DURING THE PROGRAM YEAR, USING FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANTS AND NONFEDERAL RESOURCES.

THERE WERE QUESTIONS REGARDING CATHOLIC CHARITIES AT OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.

OUR STAFF MONITORED CATHOLIC CHARITIES ON JUNE 18TH.

THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD RECORD KEEPING SYSTEM AND THEY HAD NO FINDINGS AND NO CONCERNS.

I ATTENDED THE MONITORING VISIT TO SPECIFICALLY TALK ABOUT GRANT DOLLARS AND WHAT DOCUMENTATION THEY COLLECT ON A PERSON'S LEGAL STATUS FOR BEING IN THE UNITED STATES. THEY COLLECT THE FOLLOWING FROM EACH PERSON THAT'S ASSISTED WITH OUR GRANT FUNDS FOR HOUSING GRANT DOLLARS. IDENTIFICATIONS, SOCIAL SECURITY CARDS FROM EACH PERSON.

AND IF A FAMILY HAS CHILDREN UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE, THEY MUST PROVIDE THE BIRTH CERTIFICATES, THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATES. EACH PERSON, ASSISTED BY CATHOLIC CHARITIES, IS ALSO INPUTTED INTO THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM, AND THAT GOES COUNTYWIDE. AND THAT INFORMATION IS RECEIVED BY THE US DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

CATHOLIC CHARITIES REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE THIS EVENING IN ATTENDANCE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

I ALSO WANT TO BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS, TEN MONTHS.

HUD COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DID PROVIDE A NOTICE TO US.

NOTICE CPD 2502 PUBLISHED ON JANUARY 14TH, AND THEY'RE VERY CLEAR ON THE ACTION PLAN DEADLINE.

IT MENTIONS THAT FAILURE TO SUBMIT AN ACTION PLAN FOR FY 2025 BY AUGUST 16TH, 2025, REAL WILL RESULT IN THE AUTOMATIC LOSS OF ALL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO THE CITY.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS, MA'AM.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SECOND FOR DISCUSSION. SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HAM.

GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN. HIM? YES. SINCE OUR LAST TIME THAT WE APPROACHED HERE.

I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN MULTIPLE TIMES ABOUT HOW I WOULD LIKE AGING MATTERS TO BE BROUGHT INTO THIS SOMEHOW OR WAY.

A LOT OF THEIR FUNDING WAS VETOED OVER THE OVER THE LAST WEEK AND I HAVE I, MYSELF AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE HAVE.

GOT TO EXPERIENCE SOME TIME AND UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THIS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I, I HIGHLY THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT ON THIS COUNCIL.

BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY, REALLY AFFECTS OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED WITH A MOTION IN MY EYES.

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WELL, THE MAYOR MEMBERS OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES IS HERE.

THEY SAID TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. MAY WE HAVE THEM COME UP TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO ASK, AT THIS POINT IN JUNCTURE REMOVE YOUR SECOND, SIR.

SECOND, AND I'LL REMOVE MY. THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU.

THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S A REASON THANK YOU.

SO THE. SO I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEONE FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES WANTS TO COME AND PRESENT. THANK YOU.

COME ON UP. GOOD EVENING. YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE THAT HEIGHT BUTTON.

IT'LL BRING IT. BRING THE THE WHOLE LECTERN UP.

THANK YOU. SURE. IS THAT BETTER FOR YOU? OH. I'M FINE.

OKAY. MY NAME IS GARY TESTER. I'M A DEACON IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, AND I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF CENTRAL FLORIDA.

I'VE BEEN IN THAT ROLE FOR TEN YEARS. WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO SERVE THE NINE COUNTIES OF CENTRAL FLORIDA.

WE HAVE DONE SO SINCE 1962. WE PROVIDE A VARIETY OF WHAT WE CALL MINISTRIES OR SERVICES TO PEOPLE IN NEED.

WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. I'M HONORED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR CONTINUED FUNDING.

WE'VE BEEN BLESSED TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN TERMS OF EMERGENCY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.

AND AS YOU HEARD DENISE SAY, WHEN WE DO GET A REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE.

JENNIFER BRANDON AND ADRIENNE HODGE. JENNIFER, AS OUR CASE MANAGER HERE, ADRIAN IS A SENIOR DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS. WE HAVE A PROCESS WE FOLLOW TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING A REQUEST.

NUMBER ONE, THAT THE REQUEST IS LEGITIMATE. NUMBER TWO, THAT WE CAN MEET THE REQUEST.

AND NUMBER THREE, THAT THEY QUALIFY FOR THAT REQUEST.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS IN THE PAST, AT A PAST MEETING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT OUR WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES. WE HAVE SERVED INDIVIDUALS FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES SINCE 1962, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY INVOLVED IN OPERATION PEDRO POND, WITH YOUNG MEN COMING OVER FROM CUBA WHEN THE CASTRO REGIME TOOK OVER IN CUBA.

WE SERVE RIGHT NOW A COMPREHENSIVE REFUGEE SERVICES GRANT WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES.

WE, BY CONTRACT WITH THE STATE, ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SERVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNDOCUMENTED.

THEY HAVE TO BE HERE WITH A LEGAL STATUS. AND THAT'S TRUE FOR ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS, EXCEPT FOR FOOD.

IF YOU COME TO US AND YOU'RE HUNGRY, YOU'RE GOING TO GET FOOD. AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS.

BUT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT ANY OF YOU HAVE ABOUT SPECIFICALLY OUR SERVICES.

AND IF YOU HAVE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WE PROCESS AN APPLICATION, I CAN ASK JENNIFER AND OR ADRIAN TO ADDRESS YOU AS WELL.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS COUNSELOR? SO WITH YOUR CONTRACT IN IN SUPPORTING PEOPLE, YOU SAID THAT THEY HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED.

THAT IS CORRECT. DOES DOCUMENT IN MEAN THEY CAME HERE LEGALLY OR DOES IT MEAN THEY CROSSED THE BORDER ILLEGALLY, CAME INTO CONTACT WITH BORDER PATROL, REQUESTED ASYLUM, AND WE'RE TOLD YOU CAN STAY WHILE YOU'RE WAITING FOR A JUDICIAL AGREEMENT.

I'M SO GLAD YOU ASKED. AM I UNDER A. I WON'T SPEAK LONG, BUT I CAN CARRY ON, SIR.

AND SO WE. THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE BECAUSE TERMINOLOGY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SO THEY'RE IMMIGRANTS, MIGRANTS AND REFUGEES.

REFUGEES ARE PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE UNITED STATES LEGALLY VETTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE, THE FBI AND THE UNITED NATIONS.

ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED TO COME HERE FROM A REFUGEE CAMP, THEY'RE ALLOWED INTO THE UNITED STATES.

THEY'RE BROUGHT IN BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LEGALLY. MIGRANTS ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ALLOWED TO COME HERE.

THEY COME HERE FOR BASICALLY EDUCATION OR WORK PURPOSES.

THEY COME WITH APPROPRIATE VISAS AND PAPERWORK, AND THEY'RE ALLOWED INTO THE UNITED STATES.

THEY SEEK NOT TO STAY HERE. THEY COME IN FOR A TERM AND THEN THEY LEAVE.

WE HAVE TWO TYPES OF IMMIGRANTS. THOSE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEAVING THEIR COUNTRY NOT BECAUSE OF VIOLENCE LIKE REFUGEES DO, BECAUSE OF LIVING CONDITIONS. AND THEY COME AND THEY CAN EITHER BE DOCUMENTED OR UNDOCUMENTED, ENTERING THE COMPANY, ENTERING THE COUNTRY LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY BY CONTRACT.

WE CANNOT SERVE UNDER THE GRANT WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA.

ANYONE WHO HAS COME INTO THE COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, WE HAVE TO VERIFY THAT THEY HAVE DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS RECEIVED LEGALLY.

SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING ABOUT IS, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S TALK.

TPS TEMPORARY PAROLE STATUS. WHEN SOMEONE COMES INTO THE COUNTRY UNDER TPS.

THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE RIGHT TO GRANT TPS BASED ON CONDITIONS THEY FIND IN A PARTICULAR COUNTRY.

LET'S TALK HAITI, BECAUSE WE'VE JUST HEARD RECENTLY ABOUT A REVOCATION OF THAT TPS.

WHEN HAITIANS WERE GRANTED TPS UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE FIRST TERM UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN AND ALSO UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA.

THE REASON THEY WERE GRANTED TPS IS WITH OBAMA.

IT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA. IT WAS AN EARTHQUAKE.

THEY COME INTO THE UNITED STATES UNDER THAT TPS STATUS LEGALLY.

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THEY STILL CAME INTO THE COUNTRY LEGALLY, BUT NOW THEY HAVE A TIME CLOCK THAT STARTS AND THEY HAVE TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY.

ONCE THAT PERIOD OF TIME ENDS. AND SO IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE, BUT WE ONLY SERVE PEOPLE IN THESE PROGRAMS, WHO ARE HERE, WHO HAVE COME INTO THE COUNTRY WITH DOCUMENTATION, ILLEGALLY CROSSING THE BORDER.

WE HAVE ACTUALLY CALLED HOMELAND SECURITY UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION AND COMPLAINED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE GETTING INDIVIDUALS SHOWING UP AT OUR MAIN CAMPUS IN ORLANDO WHO WERE COMING IN WITH NO ID. THEY WERE SIMPLY TURNING THEMSELVES INTO THE BORDER PATROL AND THE WAY THE SYSTEM WAS WORKING.

WE HAD AGENTS FROM HOMELAND SECURITY IN MY CONFERENCE ROOM TO TALK ABOUT OUR FRUSTRATION WHO ARE SIMPLY TURNING THEMSELVES IN AND SAYING, I WANT TO GO TO ORLANDO OR THE IMMIGRATION COURT.

THEY'RE GIVEN A COURT DATE IN 2027 AND TRAVEL DOCUMENTS AND NOTHING ELSE.

SO WE WORK VERY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE RULE OF THE LAW AND THE RULE OR THE LANGUAGE OF OUR CONTRACTS WHEN WE SERVE, FOLKS. THANK YOU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANKS FOR ASKING US. SO WE OPENED THIS BACK UP BECAUSE COUNCILMAN HAMMER WANTED TO ADD SOMEONE THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST, OBVIOUSLY. CORRECT. AND SO IN ORDER FOR US TO ADD THAT, AND I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU, DENISE, HOW HOW DOES THAT DO? WE TAKE SOME OUT OF ONE ORGANIZATION AND TRY TO SPLIT THAT UP? HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN? MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WE'RE WE'RE WORKING WITH A CONSULTING FIRM RIGHT NOW WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION FUNDS.

WE HAVE A LITTLE $674,000 THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET STRAIGHT AND CLOSE OUT.

AS SOON AS WE CAN CLOSE OUT THOSE FUNDS, WE CAN DO A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

AND IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT I TALKED WITH HER SPECIFICALLY AND I ASKED.

ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE THOSE FUNDS ONCE WE TRANSFER THEM FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM, ARE WE ALLOWED TO USE THEM FOR PUBLIC SERVICES? AND THEY SAID YES. SO THAT WILL BE AN AREA THAT WE CAN WE WILL USE PROBABLY MOST OF IT FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

I KNOW WE HAVE SOME CITY DEPARTMENTS HERE THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THAT STRAIGHT. AND AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THOSE MONIES AVAILABLE, WE'RE GOING TO DO ANOTHER REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL.

THAT WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST. BECAUSE THIS THIS REPORT IS FINISHED, THESE NUMBERS ARE ALL INTEGRATED IN HERE AND TRYING TO CHANGE ALL OF THAT. THAT'S A IT'S IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT.

WE STILL GOT TO INPUT THIS REPORT INTO THE SYSTEM AND GET IT IN ON TIME AND GET IT IN SO THAT THE COUNTY.

WHAT OKAY. WHAT IS THE DEADLINE THAT WE'RE TALKING? WELL, WE HAVE TO GET OUR STUFF TO THE COUNTY.

INTO THE COUNTY BY THE 11TH. OKAY. RIGHT. RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, AND I.

I'M GOING TO TOSS IT OVER TO HIM. BUT I'M THINKING, WHAT WAS IT THAT.

WHY DIDN'T THEY MAKE THE LIST? A A MONITOR SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

I DON'T KNOW WHO THE WHO THE CEO WAS AT THE TIME, BUT THEY HAD SOME MONITORING CONCERNS, AND THAT'S WHY ALL OF THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD. WE WE REVIEWED EVERY PROPOSAL, AND IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS FINANCIAL.

IT WAS THERE WERE FINANCIAL CONCERNS. YES. LIKE IN THE NEGATIVE OR.

NO. WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? IT WAS THERE WERE SOME THEY DID A MONITORING THE STAFF THAT WOULD, THAT WAS THAT WAS STILL THERE. AND THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH GOING IN.

THEY ASKED FOR WELL, IT'S A PASS THROUGH. THE MONEY'S A PASS THROUGH TO THE NONPROFITS.

AND IT WASN'T IN THE FINANCIAL REPORTS. AND WE ASKED WHY.

BECAUSE OTHER NONPROFITS HAD THAT. SO THERE WERE REASONS WHY THEY SCORED LOWER, AND IT WAS BECAUSE THE STAFF THAT HAD WORKED WITH THEM HAD SOME FINANCIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY THAT THEY HAD DONE THE REPORTING.

ALSO, THERE WAS SOME OTHER COMMENTS THAT WERE GIVEN BY THEIR FINANCE PERSON WHEN THEY WENT IN.

AND IT WAS AND IT WASN'T IT WASN'T POSITIVE TO OUR STAFF.

SO IT THERE WERE, THERE WERE REASONS WHY. OKAY.

SO IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. WE THINK THAT THEY HAVE A GREAT SERVICE.

BUT THE REASON WHY WE WERE PUSHING HOUSING IS BECAUSE WE ARE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

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HOUSING. WE'VE GOT FOOD. WE'VE GOT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, OTHER THINGS.

THEY'RE VERY GOOD, BUT WE'RE HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS.

AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS OUR GOALS. AND THAT WAS A HOUSING GOAL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND. SO WHEN WE WHEN I FIRST DISCUSSED THIS, I WAS TOLD, JUST BRING IT UP AT THIS MEETING.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'M TRYING TO DO. ME, MYSELF.

I CAN'T SIT HERE, AND I'M STILL GOING TO DONATE MY TIME TO MEALS ON WHEELS.

I CANNOT GO AND DONATE FOOD TO THESE PEOPLE KNOWING THEY'RE STRUGGLING AND SIT HERE AND IMPROVE NEW DUGOUTS.

I JUST CAN'T DO IT. AND I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE THINGS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THERE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HOUSING.

AND AND I MEAN, I GET IT, I UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I REALLY THINK, I MEAN, THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

I KNOW, BUT AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT WE'RE NOT.

WE'RE NOT. WE'RE HAVING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO DO ANOTHER RFP THAT WILL BE IN IT.

IN ADDITION, THAT WILL BE ANOTHER RFP IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

YEAH. AND I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN HAMMER IS, IS LOOKING TO DO IS TO ASSIST THIS ORGANIZATION. AND IN THAT. HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE LEADER OF THAT ORGANIZATION? OKAY. YEAH. AS PART OF THAT. RIGHT. PERHAPS SITTING DOWN WITH THAT ORGANIZATION WOULD BE THE BEST WAY FORWARD SO THAT THEY KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED AND HOW THEY COULD MEET THOSE LEVELS OF EXPECTATIONS. OKAY. IN IN MY EYES.

COUNCILMAN HAMMER, THEY HAVE TO MEET THOSE EXPECTATIONS, THOSE GOALS, AND SET THOSE BEST PRACTICES.

HOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT. RIGHT. AND I THINK ONCE WE COULD ALL GET THAT, I THINK EVEN THE ADVISORY BOARD, BECAUSE I KNOW COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I'M GOING TO TELL TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE SAID ON THAT BOARD AND AND EVERYONE'S VYING FOR THAT SAME PIECE OF THE PIE.

AND SO IT'S THEIR JOB, MEANING OUR STAFF'S JOB, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CROSSING THEIR T'S AND IN THEIR EYES.

AND IF THERE'S A QUESTION REGARDING THAT, THEN AT THAT POINT IT BECOMES WHERE THEY THEY DON'T SCORE AS HIGH.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON? BUT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN.

NO. MAYOR, YOU HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD. I, I WAS JUST GOING TO JUMP IN.

AND IF YOU WERE LIKE, NEXT YEAR, I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND OR I WOULD ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THE POSITION ON THE BOARD BECAUSE IT IS VERY EYE OPENING.

YOU WILL SEE A LOT MORE AND YOU'LL SEE ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAD EARLY ON.

I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD SINCE I GOT ON COUNCIL, AND YOU WOULD SEE IN THE SCORING, WHICH MISS DENISE, THANK YOU. AND MISS NANCY BUNT, SHE WAS GOOD ON TRYING TO ADDRESS THE SCORING AS WELL.

YOU SAW NEW PEOPLE WHO WERE APPLYING FOR THE FUNDING WHO HAD NO PREVIOUS, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE.

THEY WERE MORE PENALIZED WHILE THOSE WHO HAD APPLIED JUST FOR THE SAKE OF BEING A PREVIOUS WINNER WERE GETTING BONUS POINTS, ESSENTIALLY. SO THEY REVISED IT WHERE, HEY, IF YOU RECEIVE FUNDING AND PREVIOUSLY, BUT YOU WERE MISMANAGING OR NOT MANAGING IN THE MANNER THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY FELT YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE WE HAVE A TIGHT WE HAVE A TIGHT THUMB ON US FROM THE STATE.

YOU YOU GOT NEGATIVE POINTS. AND PREVIOUSLY I DIDN'T LIKE WHEN THEY WOULD DO PRESENTATIONS, BECAUSE MOST OF THE PRESENTATIONS WILL TRY TO PULL ON THE HEARTSTRINGS WHERE I JUST WANT TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

BUT IN DOING SO AND TALKING TO MISS CARTER AND STAFF, HAVING THE PRESENTATIONS AS GOOD SO YOU CAN JUSTIFY LIKE, HEY, WHY IS THIS, YOU KNOW, WHY DOES IT TAKE, YOU KNOW, $1,000 JUST FOR YOU TO HELP ONE PERSON? LIKE WHY, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL THIS GOING TO ADMINISTRATION.

LIKE YOU KNOW WHO'S GETTING WHO'S THE END USER.

SO I HEAR YOU, I'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, I VOLUNTEER WITH MEALS ON WHEELS.

BUT I'LL DEFINITELY RECOMMEND NEXT YEAR WHEN WE COME TO.

WELL, NOT NEXT YEAR. THIS YEAR. NOVEMBER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE IT.

IF YOU'RE ON A BOARD THAT YOU WANT TO SWITCH, WE CAN SWITCH OR WHATEVER, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE VERY EYE OPENING IN REGARDS TO SEEING THE NONPROFIT REALM. WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT NONPROFITS HERE WHO'VE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB OVER THE YEARS.

WE HAVE MELVIN POWELL HERE. I STILL WANT PALM BAY POWELL, LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT I APPRECIATE Y'ALL STEPPING UP AND HELPING UP OUR HELPING OUR KIDS IN THE MEANTIME. BECAUSE FOR ME, I PERSONALLY FEEL A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING SHOULD GO TOWARDS EITHER HOUSING OR TOWARDS THE YOUTH.

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YOU KNOW, PREVENTION. SO I LOVE WHAT CLUBHOUSE TEAM IS DOING AND A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANT IT, YOU GOT IT, SIR. SO THAT'S THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO SAY, MAYOR.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN? HIM? ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. AT THIS TIME, ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. ROBERT'S 1796 MEMBER DRIVE SOUTHEAST. NOW. I WAS HERE WHEN WE HAD THAT.

IT ALMOST WAS. LET'S MAKE A DEAL. I DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE OR WHERE YOU'RE FROM.

OKAY? BUT YOU HAD PEOPLE HERE FROM THE CARIBBEAN.

THEY HAD SIGNS. THEY HAD COSTUME JEWELRY ON. WE HAD A A REPRESENTATIVE UP HERE WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, DECIDED TO GO WITH THEM. AND THE GUY THAT I KNOW, I CAN'T RECALL HIS NAME AT MEALS ON WHEELS, HE'S NOT AN ADEQUATE, I'LL SAY, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, PUBLIC SPEAKER.

BUT WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND CHAT WITH THIS GENTLEMAN ONE ON ONE HE'S VERY INTELLIGENT, VERY SMART.

NOW, LOOK, I WAS RAISED CATHOLIC. I KNOW CATHOLIC CHARITIES HAVE DO A WONDERFUL JOB ALL AROUND THE WORLD, AND THEY TYPICALLY ARE WELL FUNDED. AMERICANS ARE VERY GENEROUS PEOPLE.

BUT I'VE BEEN DOING MEALS ON WHEELS FOR FIVE YEARS, AND AND SOME OF YOU SITTING UP THERE WRITTEN OUT AND YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NICHE AND OUR GOVERNOR PRIORITIZES THE ELDERLY.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NICHE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO DRIVE A VEHICLE.

AND THEY THEY SOME OF THEM LOOK AT THEIR WATCH AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ON TIME GETTING THERE.

THIS IS A VALUABLE THIS IS A VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE ELDERLY, MANY OF WHICH ARE VETERANS, MANY OF WHICH ARE IN A WHEELCHAIR OR DON'T HAVE A LEG OR TWO LEGS, OR THEY'RE ON CRUTCHES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

THESE ARE PEOPLE. THESE ARE ADULTS. THESE ARE YOUR PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS WHO ARE REALLY, REALLY SUFFERING. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THE THING WITH HOUSING AND I UNDERSTAND CATHOLIC CHARITIES, BUT CATHOLIC CHARITIES DOES NOT HAVE THIS BIG, WIDE ROLLOUT OF A BRUSH THAT COVERS EVERYTHING.

I HEAR A LOT ABOUT ABOUT HOUSING. OKAY. WHAT THIS IS, IS PUTTING FEED FOOD IN THE MOUTHS OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GO OUT AND GET IT THEMSELVES. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL. AND YOU CANNOT LEAVE YOUR THE ELDERLY OUT ON THE VINE HERE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO FUND THE POL OR YOU KNOW, YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE BEING ABLE TO PLAY BASKETBALL OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE SITTING DOWN LOOKING AT THEIR FREAKING TABLET OR THEIR CELL PHONE.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO FOR THE ELDERLY? FOR YOUR GRANDPARENTS WHO ARE DYING FOR A MEAL? SOMETIMES THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE'LL BUY STUFF FROM THE OR WE'LL GET STUFF FROM THE FOOD PANTRY RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT WE MEET, AND WE WE AUGMENT THAT. BUT JUST TO SAY WE NEED HOUSING AND WE NEED THIS.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DIDN'T LIKE THE PRESENTATION.

IT WASN'T RATED RIGHT. I MEAN, DO YOU THINK EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT IT'S IMPERATIVE TO PROVIDE A HEALTHY MEAL TO THE ELDERLY THAT CAN'T PROVIDE FOR THEMSELVES? NOW, IF YOU HAVE ANY KIND OF COMPASSION, THAT ANSWER'S GOT TO BE YES.

SO HOW DO YOU DO THAT? HOW DO YOU DO THAT? YOU'RE ON A YOU'RE ON A NUMBERING SYSTEM.

THE NUMBERING SYSTEM. HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT HAPPEN? IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO. WE HAVE TO DO YOU KNOW.

MY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS ARE GONE. DO YOU HAVE PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS THAT THAT THAT NEED A MEAL? THEY DELIVER. THEY DELIVER FIVE DAYS A WEEK. AND SOME PEOPLE GET THEM ON ON WEEKENDS AS WELL.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK AT ME AND TELL ME, OKAY, THAT THIS IS NOT IMPERATIVE.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO HAVE HOUSING FOR EVERYBODY. YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE THE POOR, BUT YOU GOT THE ELDERLY WHO CAN'T GET A MEAL.

THAT'S WHERE YOUR PRIORITY HAS GOT TO BE. YOU KNOW, BIBLE SAYS THE POOR YOU WOULD HAVE WITH YOU ALWAYS.

BUT MAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE TRAVELED TO THE ORIENT OR SPEND TIME IN JAPAN LIKE I HAVE.

OH MY GOD, DID THEY HONOR THEIR PARENTS AND THE ELDERLY? WHERE'S YOUR COMPASSION ON THIS? THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE A FREAKING DISCUSSION.

IT'S GOT TO BE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? HOW DO WE PROVIDE THIS.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO JUST THROW MONEY AT A WALL OR WHAT HAVE YOU, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? THIS IS IMPERATIVE. THIS IS THE ELDERLY AND THIS YOU CAN'T BAT AN EYE AT AND HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS THERE.

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EVER. SO HOW DO YOU MAKE THIS WORK? HOW DO YOU PUT SOME MONEY AND SOME OF THE MONEY FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, OKAY. TO PROVIDE A HEALTHY MEAL TO THE ELDERLY AND MANY WHO ARE VETERANS? IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WEAR MY HAT ALL THE TIME.

HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF THESE GUYS WHO SERVE.

AND LADIES, YOU GOTTA GIVE THIS MORE THAN DUE CONSIDERATION.

YOU GOT TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION, SIR. I JUST HAD ONE LAST QUESTION.

I'M SORRY. THE COMMUNITY OF HOPE HOUSING REHABILITATION PROJECT.

THE THREE APARTMENTS. DIDN'T WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE FOR THAT? MISS DENISE? YES. IN APRIL IT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL, AND WE'RE GOING TO NOW DO HOUSING, REHABILITATION, SOME HOMES UNDER THE HOME PROGRAM, RENOVATION, RENOVATION OF HOMES.

IT STILL SAYS THE THREE APARTMENTS ON THE LIST.

OKAY. FOR SENIORS. YEAH. THAT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S IT SHOULD SAY HOUSING REHAB FOR SENIORS.

YEAH. YEAH. REHABILITATION PROJECT. YEAH. IT STILL SAYS THE THREE APARTMENTS THAT WE.

YEAH, WE VOTED DOWN THE APARTMENTS. IT WAS. WE'RE DOING REHABILITATION FOR SENIORS.

SO YEAH, WHENEVER WE DO GIVE THIS ADVERTISED.

I'M SORRY. THAT MAY BE AN ERROR. YEAH. BUT IT IT'S IT'S OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING REHAB.

YEAH. FOR SENIORS. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THE SUBSTITUTE WAS.

YEAH. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO APPROVE THIS, IT DOESN'T SAY THREE APARTMENTS.

IT'S NOT OKAY. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU.

YEAH. I'M NOT SURE WHICH. AND. YEAH, IT'S ON THE LIST AS THE THREE APARTMENTS.

YEAH, IT STILL SAYS THE COMMUNITY. IT SAYS REHABILITATION PROJECT, BUT.

OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. IT STILL SAYS THE COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

SO WE'RE AWARDING $169,423 TONIGHT TO COMMUNITY OF HOPE.

I CALLED AND I INSERTED A NEW DOCUMENT BECAUSE I CAUGHT THAT ERROR BEFORE IT WENT IN AND IT SHOULD SAY OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING REHAB FOR SENIOR CITIZENS. CAN WE CHANGE THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE THIS? YEAH, IT ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. YOU CAN MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT.

YOU CAN MAKE IT PART OF THE MOTION. ABSOLUTELY.

SAME AMOUNT. ONE 6944 2311 AND IT SHOULD SAY OWNER OCCUPIED HOUSING AND REHAB FOR SENIOR CITIZENS ON MY AGENDA, IT SAYS EXACTLY WHAT SHE'S READING. OH, IS THAT RIGHT ON YOURS? OH. YOU'RE OKAY. DOES IT WELL, LET ME LOOK AT MINE.

BUT I MINE HAD WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. IT WAS IN AGENDA MEMO. CORRECT. I THOUGHT IT WAS. OH, SO.

YEAH. IT'S IN THE AGENDA MEMO AS OPPOSED TO THE SEPARATE LIST.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS. IT'S IN IT, SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO.

IT SAYS OWNER OCCUPIED. WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SEPARATE LIST.

BUT THIS IS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE MEMO. OKAY.

OKAY. SO IT IS. YOU DID DO THAT, MAN. YOU JUST LEFT THE ILLNESS ON THERE.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE? ARE YOU DID.

YOU WANT TO COME AND SPEAK? OKAY. OKAY. MY NAME IS TOM CAMPBELL.

I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF AGING MATTERS IN BREVARD.

I'VE BEEN WITH THE AGENCY SINCE 2012. CEO FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THE PROBLEMS THAT WERE AFFECTED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.

NOW, MONITORING. WELL, THOSE HAVE BEEN RECTIFIED.

FINANCE PERSON IS A DIFFERENT FINANCE PERSON.

WE ARE A STRONGER AGENCY, BUT I HAVE 96 PEOPLE ON A WAITING LIST.

I'VE GOT FIVE. NO, SIX AT A CRITICAL LEVEL THAT MAY LOSE THEIR HOME BY THE TIME WE GET TO THIS TIME NEXT YEAR.

WE ARE IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS. WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE HAVE THAT SAFETY CHECK WITH THAT PROVIDER, THAT MEAL, BUT WE KEEP THEM IN THEIR HOMES.

SO WE ARE VITAL. AND YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SINS OF THE PAST.

WELL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR FORGIVENESS ON THAT PIECE.

BUT OUR WORK SHOWS WHAT WE DO AND WE NEED TO HELP BUILD THAT FUTURE.

AND PALM BAY IS VITAL. WE SERVE OVER 250 PEOPLE NOW.

BUT WE NEED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP ON SERVING MORE.

THAT VETO HEARD US THIS WEEK. THAT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD.

IT WAS $500,000 WE WERE SHOOTING FOR, AND IT STILL WOULD LEAVE US WITH A WAITING LIST.

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WE DO A LOT HERE. AND YOU KNOW, WE'LL FIX IT.

IT IS FIXED. WE HAVE CVS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS DENISE.

COME ON UP AGAIN, PLEASE. SO THIS THIS OTHER PROCESS, THE RFP PROCESS YOU REFERRED TO IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION. RIGHT. HOW LONG IS THAT DOWNRANGE? HOW FAR? WELL, IT IT WE'RE HOPING THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BEFORE ON OUR NORMAL RFP PROCESS.

I CAN'T GIVE A DEADLINE BECAUSE I DON'T I'M NOT SURE HOW SOON THE CONSULTANT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE OUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION FUNDS, BUT THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY.

AND SO WE DID LOOK INTO ANOTHER WAY OF ADDRESSING HELPING OTHER PUBLIC SERVICE.

WELL, WE JUST HEARD FROM THE GENTLEMAN FROM AGING MATTERS AND, AND HE, HE ADMITTED THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENT FINANCE INDIVIDUAL. IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO START BUILDING THAT RELATIONSHIP TO SHOW THEM WHERE THEY CAN IMPROVE IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS? YES, YES. BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY WILL DO THAT.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING. NONE. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. TO PASS THE ORDINANCE.

HOWEVER, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A STIPULATION IN MY MOTION THAT THE $35,000 TO CATHOLIC CHARITIES GOES TO AGING MATTERS.

I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANZA. SECOND, I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HAMMOND.

WE WE JUST HEARD THAT I DON'T THINK WE COULD ACTUALLY DO THIS, BUT ANYWAY, I GOT A MOTION.

AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SAY NAY. NAY. NAY. MOTION FAILS.

3 TO 2. I NEED A MOTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO PASS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AS IS.

SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ALL OPPOSED. SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY.

NAY. ROLL CALL. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, A COUNCILMAN JOHNSON A COUNCILMAN.

HAMMER. NAY. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. NAY. MAYOR.

MEDINA. AYE. PASSES THREE. TWO. WE ARE NOW ON ITEMS FROM CONSENT.

[CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]

WHO PULLED ITEM NUMBER THREE. HAMMER. COUNCILMAN.

HAMMER. YEAH. YEAH. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS NUMBER THREE JUST TO THE POINT OF IT.

ONLY GOT ONE BID. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS TABLED AND MAYBE SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME MORE BIDS.

I REALLY DON'T LIKE THINGS THAT ONLY GET ONE BID.

IT REALLY MINIMIZES OUR POTENTIAL FOR AT LEAST PRICE STRUCTURE.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE IS MAYBE IF WE CAN START BIDDING ON OUR OWN PROJECTS JUST TO GET A GROUND BASED ON HOW MUCH THESE THINGS COST.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT IF IT'S A POSSIBILITY.

I THINK THAT'S MORE OF A QUESTION FOR MR. MORTON.

BUT TO TO YOUR YOU KNOW, YOU MAY BE RIGHT ON THIS, BUT IS THERE A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE WITH THIS? BECAUSE I DID SEE THIS. GREAT. AND IT DOESN'T LOOK IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME NECESSITY IS OF THIS, BUT THAT.

THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION. MR. MORTON, WHO SHOULD WE ADDRESS THE QUESTION ON THE THE LIFE.

OH, MISS SULLIVAN'S COMING UP. SO YOU HEARD WHAT? COUNCILMAN HAMMER SAID HE HE PULLED THE ITEM.

MY CONCERN IS HOW HOW DESPERATE THAT GREAT LOOKS IN NEEDING TO BE REPLACED.

OUR OPERATIONS TEAM HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THIS WORK TO BE DONE FOR SOME TIME.

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I'M TOLD BY OUR OPERATIONS TEAM THAT IT IS CRITICAL, AND WE DO NEED TO REPLACE IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

SO DID THEY TURN IT CRITICAL? IS THAT HOW YOU CALLED IT? THAT'S HOW I CALLED IT, SIR. THAT'S THE IMPRESSION I GOT.

I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT. THAT IS THE WORD THEY USED.

OKAY. OKAY. COUNCILMAN. IS THIS SOMETHING OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM CAN'T DO? I ASKED THEM THAT QUESTION, SIR. THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE TO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK, THAT THEY WOULD BE LEARNING AS THEY GO. AND THEY BELIEVE THAT HAVING IT BID OUT AND DONE BY A PROFESSIONAL WHO DOES THIS TYPE OF WORK WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU MA'AM.

THANKS FOR COMING. ACTUALLY, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. CARRY ON. HOW DO WE INSPECT IT IF WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO BUILD IT? OUR INSPECTORS ARE GOING TO BE INSPECTING IT.

THEY DON'T BUILD IT, SIR. THE WORK BEING DONE BY THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE INSPECTED, OF COURSE, BY OUR ENGINEERING INSPECTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE PER SPECIFICATIONS.

THE THE WORK THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BY OUR OPERATION.

STAFF WOULD REQUIRE EQUIPMENT AND PERSONNEL THAT EXPERIENCE WE DON'T HAVE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YEAH. FIRST, AS YOU WERE TELL YOU REGARDING TO HIS POINT WITH THE THE ONE BID BECAUSE WE KNOW WE LIKE YOUR BASEBALL PLAYER COMPETITION.

SO WAS IT THAT THERE WAS JUST WAS AN APPETITE FOR WHEN Y'ALL PUT IT OUT THERE, OR WAS THERE ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU RECEIVED OR.

YEAH, THAT'S A FAIR POINT. AND WE LOVE COMPETITION.

WHEN WE DID A LITTLE OUTREACH THE ONLY THING THAT CAME BACK WAS THAT THE 2 OR 3 VENDORS THAT WE REACHED OUT TO.

THEY, THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PUT A BID IN AT THE TIME, BUT ANYTIME WE GET ONE BID, I'M NOT HAPPY. YEAH. SO WE DO OUTREACH. WE TRY TO MAKE SURE TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE MARKET, WHETHER THE SPECIFICATIONS WERE OFF AND NOTHING APPEARED TO BE AS SUCH FOR THIS ONE.

IT'S JUST I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE AMOUNT. IT WASN'T TOO HIGH.

IT WAS 106,000. SO WE ONLY GOT ONE AND THE AVERAGE WE DID NOTHING CAME BACK SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO SAY WE NEEDED TO REBID IT.

OKAY. AND I CAN ASSURE YOU GUYS, IF I'D BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, LET'S PUT IT BACK OUT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR.. MR. BARBER. I'M SORRY.

I GET THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NOBODY WANTED TO BET IN THE FUTURE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO, LIKE, COMBINE SIMILAR, LIKE, PROJECTS TOGETHER TO INCREASE THE VALUE AND THE ATTRACTIVENESS TO A MORE QUALIFIED SUB POOL BASE? ABSOLUTELY. WE TRY TO BUNDLE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT FOR THIS ONE. BUT ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

SOMETIMES IT'S PREFERRED. IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION, AS YOU KNOW, MOBILIZATION.

BUT WHEN POSSIBLE. ABSOLUTELY. COOL. THANK YOU.

I LOVE WHEN HE SAID BUNDLE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JAFFE OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAM.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE.

WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR. CONSENT. WHO? WHO PULLED ITEM FOUR. OKAY. CARRY ON. SAME THING.

ONE BID. AND I WANT TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN POSSIBLY PUT BACK OUT.

BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING AS NEEDED. IT'S NOT EMERGENCY.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING. OH NO. NO. BIOSOLIDS REMOVAL IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND IS DONE EVERY SINGLE DAY OF EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

WE CANNOT GO WITHOUT THIS SERVICE. LAST TIME IT WAS BID, WE HAD TWO BIDDERS, H AND H AND ANOTHER, THIS TIME H AND H IS THE ONLY ONE. AND THEY'VE HELD THEIR PRICES THE SAME AS THEY WERE LAST TIME IN 2020.

WHEN THEY BID, IT WAS $14.25 PER TON, AND NOW IT'S AT 1525 PER TON.

SO IT'S A REALLY IT'S IT'S FAIR. ALL RIGHT. I JUST GOT ONE MORE FOR GEORGE.

OKAY. YES, SIR. IS THERE ANY OPTION OTHER THAN MY VENDOR TO PUT IN FOR THESE BIDS? BECAUSE IF NOBODY'S PUTTING IN FOR THEM, WE MIGHT NEED TO START FINDING SOMEWHERE ELSE TO ADD TO NOT ELIMINATING MY VENDOR LINK, BUT SOMETHING TO START BROADCASTING THESE MORE.

IF WE'RE ONLY I MEAN, THIS IS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE I EVEN CAME HERE.

I MEAN, THE GUY THAT WAS SITTING IN MY SEAT BEFORE HIS HIS LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS, I WANT TO SEE MORE PEOPLE BID ON THESE THINGS.

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WE USE BONFIRE WHICH IS IS IT'S OWNED BY DEMAND STAR.

THERE'S A WHOLE CONGLOMERATE. BUT THE BENEFIT TO THAT IS THAT IT'S IT'S BROADCAST IN TWO SEPARATE SITES NOW.

BONFIRE, WHICH WE HAVE OUR PORTAL AND WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VENDORS AND ALSO DEMAND STAR.

SO AND AS FAR AS OUTREACH. LAST YEAR WE HAD A VENDOR FAIR AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP IN AUGUST.

WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY ANY LOCAL VENDORS, ANYBODY SURROUNDING AREAS TO BID ON OUR PROJECTS.

AND, BUT OUTREACH IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS, IS CONTINUAL.

BUT I DON'T SEE TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AND WHOEVER TO BROADCAST TO DO OUR VIA OUR PLATFORM.

BUT I THINK IT WAS WE MENTIONED IT LAST YEAR.

A PROBLEM WE DO HAVE IS IS ATTRACTING LOCAL BUSINESSES, PALM BAY BUSINESSES, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR VENDOR ENGAGEMENT FAIR IS FOR.

BUT YEAH. NOW, DEMAND START REQUIRES A MEMBERSHIP FOR THE PEOPLE TO BE ON.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNING UP FOR DEMAND START BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY THAT MEMBERSHIP.

IS THERE SOMETHING AND THIS MIGHT BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION.

IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN INCLUDE ON OUR CITY WEBSITE? JUST PROJECTS AVAILABLE? YEAH, ACTUALLY WE HAVE THAT CURRENTLY.

AND JUST TO GO BACK TO THE DEMAND SIDE, I THINK IT'S, IT'S FIVE, IT'S FREE.

IF YOU WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ANY OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT'S THAT'S COMPLETELY FREE. IT'S $5 ANNUALLY FOR ANY VENDOR WISHING TO SEE I THINK ALL OF AND THAT'S A SUBSCRIPTION MODEL.

BUT WE DO POST ALL OF OUR BIDS ON OUR CITY WEBSITE.

IT'S PUBLIC FACING SO YOU CAN SEE IT, YOU CAN LOG INTO OUR PORTAL.

IF YOU GO THERE RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL SEE ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS AND ALL OF OUR SOLICITATIONS. SO IF ANYBODY'S WANTING TO SEE ANY OF OUR PROJECTS, WE HAVE THIS VISIBILITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I, I VAGUELY REMEMBER, I THINK I BROUGHT THIS UP A WHILE AGO, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER. BUT JUST THINKING ON THE IDEA OF BUSINESS TAX RECEIPTS.

THEY ALREADY HAVE TO PAY, YOU KNOW, TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY WITH THAT PAIN.

CAN THEY AUTOMATICALLY. CAN THERE BE SOMETHING WHERE WE PUT SOME.

YOU SEE, I'M LOOKING AT YOU, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

DOCTOR, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. WHERE WITH THEIR RENEWAL OR WITH THEM SIGNING UP THROUGH THE BTR, THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY INTEGRATED WITH THEIR EMAIL TO BONFIRE OR WHATEVER.

SO THEY GET CONSISTENT EMAILS OF EVEN IF IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM, IT MIGHT APPLY TO A BUSINESS.

THEY KNOW THEY CAN FORWARD THAT EMAIL OR SOMETHING.

I'M I'M NOT THE EXPERT ON THAT. Y'ALL ADVERTISE.

Y'ALL. THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING AT. YEAH, I RECALL THE CONVERSATION VERY CLEARLY THAT YOU THAT YOU AND BASED ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION, I WENT TO CDD AT THE TIME, AND I DID ASK AND REQUESTED FOR A BETA LIST SO THAT WE CAN INVITE THEM TO OUR VENDOR ENGAGEMENT.

BRING IT ON. PINCH HITTING RIGHT NOW FOR THE CD DEPARTMENT.

YOU THINK I CAN FACILITATE THAT? YOU JUST LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

SO IT IS. IT IS A GREAT IDEA. YEAH. HEARD YOUR FEEDBACK.

LOUD AND CLEAR. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO LOOK TO DOING MORE OF.

BUT CROSS-REFERENCING THE BETA'S AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THOSE BUSINESSES IN ANY OF OUR SOLICITATIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DOCTOR. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION.

YOU GOT A CITY MANAGER? NO, I DO NOW. I'M SORRY.

JUST JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE GETTING TEN EXCELLENT QUESTIONS. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE GREAT QUESTIONS COMING FORWARD. AND STAFF AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME THIS WEEK TALKING ABOUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE BE MORE INFORMATIVE STRATEGICALLY IN THE AGENDA, BILL.

SO THAT'S JUST OUT THERE ON THE TABLE. WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT AND GOING THROUGH THAT. BUT IN TERMS OF YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THAT'S HOW I THINK WE CAN DO. I JUST THINK, JUST TO BE CLEAR HERE WITH YOU, I THINK THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE AN OPT IN WHEN WE SIGN THEM UP AND JUST GIVE, EXPLAIN, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY. I THINK WE PROBABLY GET IN TROUBLE JUST BY BROADCASTING EVERYBODY, BUT JUST GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, HEY, PLEASE OPT IN. WE'D LOVE YOU TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION. AND AND HERE YOU GO.

RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT TO LEGALLY, I THINK. COPY THAT.

OPT IN. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVE. SECOND, A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. YES, MAYOR. I JUST WANT TO SAY A GREAT JOB BY GABRIEL FOR HAVING THAT HISTORICAL DATA TEED UP.

AND YOU KNOW, THE PRICING IS IN LINE WITH EVEN CHEAPER THAN REALLY WITH INFLATION AND FUEL COSTS RISING AND AND THE COST OF DISPOSAL AT LANDFILL.

SO I THINK THAT WAS A JOB WELL DONE. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

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ORIGINALLY WHEN I READ THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM, I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THOUGHT THE PRICING TO BE A LITTLE OUT OF LINE. JUST WANTED GABRIEL TO SPEAK ON THAT AND LET US KNOW AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH MAYBE SOME NEW, SOME NEW PRICING. AND THEN JUST FURTHERMORE, ANYTIME I THINK SOMETHING COMES TO COUNCIL FOR DESIGN, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE THE EFFECT OF THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET WOULD LOOK LIKE.

CONSTRUCTION AND FFA. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

MR. JAFFE THIS IS A EARLY DESIGN OF THE NORTH ARROW PLANT.

VERY HIGH LEVEL. AND AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS, WE WERE REALLY KIND OF THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR OFFICES, THE CONTROL ROOM, THE LAB, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

BECAUSE THE NORTH LIME PLANT WILL BE PHASED OUT IN A FEW YEARS.

SO WE ASKED TETRA TECH TO TO LOOK AT ADDING A LAB AND OFFICE SPACE AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, WE ADDED THAT IT'S 2500FT² THAT WE'RE ADDING TO THE PROJECT, ADDING A CONTROL ROOM LOCKER ROOMS, DEDICATED IT ROOM, A LAB BREAK ROOM AND OFFICE, AND ALSO AN AREA FOR THE MECHANICS. WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH TETRA TECH AND SAID, HEY, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A LITTLE HIGH.

CAN YOU SHARPEN YOUR PENCIL A LITTLE BIT? AND THE ORIGINAL AMOUNT IN LEGISLATIVE MEMO IS 86,294.

AGAIN, WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. AND THEY THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK ON THOSE NUMBERS AND COME DOWN TO 79 693 TO KIND OF HELP US OUT WITH THAT.

THIS BUILDING IS NOT JUST A NORMAL OFFICE BUILDING.

IT'S PART OF A VERY COMPLICATED PLANT THAT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, HURRICANE RATED.

THE CONTROL ROOM WILL BE STATE OF THE ART. SO THERE'S A LOT THAT KIND OF GOES INTO THIS.

I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE BEYOND THAT. OKAY.

SO YOUR MOTION IS GOING TO INCLUDE 79,693. I NEED A MOTION TO GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS THREE 79,066 93. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE. THE AMOUNT OF 79,693. SECOND, GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE. OPPOSED.

PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER SIX.

COUNCILMAN WAS. DID YOU HEAR HAMMOND JOHNSON WHO PULLED 6808. AS YOU WERE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. YEAH. YEAH.

I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION THAT I'M OBVIOUSLY NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE AMOUNT BEING SPENT ON FURNITURE.

IS ANY OF THE FURNITURE BEING BROUGHT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ITSELF? BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, A LITTLE BIT BACK, WE GOT ALL NEW FURNITURE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

DID THAT NOT HAPPEN? OR IF YOU WANT TO CALL, SOME FURNITURE MAY BE COMING, BUT ONE THING IS CREATING A PROBLEM IS THE CURRENT FURNITURE WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS MUCH LARGER THAN WHAT WILL FIT IN THE OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT WE'RE BUILDING.

GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. RIGHT NOW, THE DIRECTORS SQUARE FOOTAGE IS 164FT².

ASSISTANT DIRECTORS 150, AND THEN THE MAJORITY OF THE OFFICES ARE 116FT².

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE DEATHS. THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED WITH UTILITIES BUILDING, AND IT LITERALLY WON'T FIT IN IN THE NEW OFFICES THAT'S BEING BUILT. SO WHAT'S GETTING DONE WITH THE OLD STUFF THAT WE JUST BOUGHT? I'LL LET GEORGE SAID THAT. AND SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE INTENTION IS TO SURPLUS IT.

IF WE CAN'T REPURPOSE IT SOMEWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE'LL SURPLUS IT AND TRY TO MAXIMIZE IT THE REMAINING VALUE OF IT.

AND THAT'S WHAT GOES TO AUCTION WHEN WE DO SEND THINGS TO AUCTION, IF IT DOESN'T GET REPURPOSED.

CORRECT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YEAH.

IF IT STILL HAS THE USE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT USED SOMEWHERE.

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SO THIS CAN GET USAGE BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A LOT LESS.

BUT WE'VE HAD LARRY SPEAK TO US ON, YOU KNOW, SURPLUS, SURPLUS AND CITY ASSETS AND WE'LL GET A LOT LESS THAN WHAT IS ACTUALLY WORTH.

SO I DON'T KNOW. YOU FOLLOW ME, COUNCILMAN. THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M THAT'S WHY I'M AT TWO OR, YOU KNOW, IS IT CHEAPER TO JUST MAKE A BIGGER DOOR? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE. IT'S JUST NOT THE DOOR.

HE'S SAYING THIS. YEAH. NO, I KNOW, BUT JUST SURPLUS AND HASN'T REALLY WORKED IN OUR FAVOR IN THE PAST.

SO THAT'S. I'M LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS. WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL AND I'LL HELP NAVIGATE THIS A BIT IS TO REPURPOSE SHOULD BE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY BEFORE IT EVER GOES OUT TO AUCTION. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ASK. SO IT SAYS FURNITURE, FIXTURES AND EQUIPMENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ASK IF WE COULD JUST GET SOME MORE DETAILS ON BEYOND THE FURNITURE, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S A HUGE PRICE JUST FOR FURNITURE.

BUT IS THERE SOME OTHER STUFF IN THE EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE WHAT IS WHAT ARE WE MEANING EXACTLY WHEN WE SAY EQUIPMENT? WELL, NOT ONLY IS IT FURNITURE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO BE COUNTER COUNTERTOPS PUBLIC STATIONS, LIKE WHEN THEY FIRST COME INTO ON TO THE FIRST FLOOR WHERE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING COUNTERTOPS SIMILAR TO THAT.

SO IT'S MORE THAN FURNITURE. IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS TO, TO, TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC.

IS ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT? MOST OF IT IS IS FURNITURE, YOU KNOW, DESKS, CHAIRS, I MEAN ELECTRONICS AND WHATNOT.

NO. OKAY. NO, AND IF YOU MAY ALSO, YOU KNOW, ANY TIME YOU GENTLEMEN WOULD LIKE TO.

NOW THE THE BUILDING IS, IS PROBABLY ABOUT 75, 80% COMPLETE.

YOU CAN GET AN IDEA OF, OF THE OFFICES AND WHERE ALL THE FURNITURE AND THE CONFERENCE TABLES AND ETC..

AND ALSO REMEMBER BUILDING SECOND FLOOR IS GOING TO BE USED AS IS AN EOC.

SO WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF CONFERENCE TABLES AND CHAIRS AND STUFF TO BE USED DURING THE EOC.

ALSO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? YEAH. IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, WE DID GET AWARDED FUNDING FOR THE EOC. WOULD THAT BE PART OF THIS? IF I CAN JUMP IN. I THINK I THINK THE COUNTY GOT FUNDING.

I THINK SHERIFF'S PROJECT GOT FUNDING. I THINK THE ONLY FUNDING WE GOT OUT OF THE LEGISLATIVE ROUND THAT IN MY CONSULTATION WITH OUR, OUR LOBBYIST WAS THE TURKEY CREEK PROJECT. I KNOW WE USED ARPA FUNDS THAT THAT WAS TIED INTO THE IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE SPACE COAST ROCKET ARTICLE, HE HAD SOME ERRORS IN TERMS OF WHAT WE WERE. WE WERE PALM BAY WAS AWARDED.

RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT WAS THE CHALLENGE IS THE WAY THE VETOES WORKED AND THE WAY IT GOT SIGNED, KIND OF AT THE LAST MINUTE. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION THERE. AND NO, I THINK IT WAS I THINK IT WAS SPACE COAST.

IT WAS ONE OF THE PAPERS AND I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE. BUT ONE OF THEM HAD SOME ERRORS. BUT I CONSULTED WITH OUR LOBBYIST THE NEXT MORNING AND HE SAID THE ONLY PROJECT THAT WE WERE FUNDED FOR IN THIS ROUND THAT WAS NOT VETOED WAS THE TURKEY CREEK FOR A PROJECT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION.

JUST FOR CLARITY IN THE LEGISLATIVE MEMORANDUM, THERE APPEARS TO BE A DIFFERENT TOTAL THAN JUST ON THE DESCRIPTION OF IS IT 542,638, OR IS IT 478,000 114 56? THIS IS.

542. 632. WHAT IF THAT DELTA COME FROM THE DIFFERENCE? I'M NOT SURE. NOT SURE WHY. THE TOTAL HERE IN THE IN THE THE BODY OF THE MEMO HAS 478 VERSUS THE 542.

I KNOW THERE WAS A CONTRACTUAL CHANGE FOR THE STATE OF FLORIDA, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS BEING TAKEN TO YOU GUYS. IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED, BUT ANYTHING OVER $100,000, IF WE'RE GOING TO USE AS A COOPERATIVE, WE OBVIOUSLY WE GO FOR APPROVAL.

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BUT I APOLOGIZE, I CANNOT ANSWER. WHY IS 4.78 IN THE BODY OF THE MEMO? YEAH. I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS TO THE JULY 17TH MEETING FOR SECOND CLARIFICATION OF THE EXPENSE THAT'S BEING MADE.

OKAY, I GOT A MOTION TO TABLE BY DEPUTY SECOND, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE AYE AYE AYE AYE.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW ON PROCUREMENT ITEM NUMBER ONE, MR.

[PROCUREMENTS:]

OKAY, SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD, GEORGE, BUT THIS IS THE ORIGINALLY WE DISCUSSED.

PIPE BURSTING FOR PRESSURE RELIEF AT ONE OF THE SEWER PLANTS WAS ACTUALLY A QUICK STORY, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, BECAUSE IT WAS GREAT. WAS DOWN AT THE UTILITIES MEETING, I THINK THE SECOND DAY I WAS HERE, AND GABRIEL HAD HIS STAFF SORT OF SAID, HEY, THIS IS EXPENSIVE. WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE? AND THEIR STAFF SORT OF NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS AND CAME UP WITH A PARALLEL LINE THAT WOULD ACHIEVE THE SAME GOAL AND ACTUALLY CREATE SOME REDUNDANCY. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING A DELTA.

THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS FOUR AND A HALF. WE'RE DOWN TO AN EFFECTIVE PRICING IS 1.529.

AND SO GEORGE, YOU WANT TO FILL IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT THIS WAS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF OF STAFF STARTING TO LOOK AT OPTIONS AND, AND TRY TO BRING THE BEST PROJECTS TO COUNCIL.

YEP. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT SYNOPSIS. WE WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH UTILITIES TO, TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE PROPOSALS OF THE COOPERATIVE PRICING.

WE CHOSE THIS ONE, WHICH WAS A 1.5. THIS FOR THE PCA CONTRACT AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GENTLEMAN. OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR.

SPEAKER CARDS. NO CARDS. MAYOR. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT THAT IS A GREAT STORY.

MISTER MORTON, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT CAME UP WITH THAT.

THAT IDEA NEEDS TO BE COMMENDED. WHAT IS IT? HOW MUCH MONEY? THAT HE JUST SAVED THE CITY. $3 MILLION? YEAH.

I THINK I THINK HE NEEDS TO BE HIGHLY COMMENDED FOR THAT.

AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF INGENUITY AND MOTIVATION THAT WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING.

AND AND IF I CAN SAY ALSO, FOR A DIRECTOR THAT'S WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, STOP THE TRAIN AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND ALLOW STAFF TO WRITE TO, TO TO BRING CREATIVE IDEAS FORWARD AND STOP WHAT'S IN MOTION SOMETIMES.

SO THAT'S A GREAT LEADERSHIP THERE BY GABRIEL AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON ON ON BOTH ENDS.

HOWEVER, THAT THE GENTLEMAN THAT SAVED US $3 MILLION NEEDS TO BE COMMENDED.

AND SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE FOR THAT YOUNG MAN.

I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MISTER MORTON. SO WE'VE GOT A CONTRACT FOR ERP SOFTWARE AND IMPLEMENTATION SERVICES.

CHANGE ORDER. WE DO HAVE IT HERE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM TONIGHT.

WE'VE ALSO GOT GEORGE HERE WITH PROCUREMENT. YOU KNOW, THE CHANGE ORDER NEGOTIATION AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK WE COULD DO A BETTER JOB BEING CLEAR IN OUR DISCUSSIONS IN THE LEGISLATIVE MEMO, ESSENTIALLY, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. AND BRIAN, YOU CAN OR GEORGE, YOU CAN ADDRESS THIS, BUT, THIS WAS A SHARED MISTAKE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CONTRACTOR.

WE HAVE OUR PAYROLL SERVICES. THEY'VE BEEN COMING IN OVER THE WEEKENDS, ON, ON SATURDAYS TO AFFECT PAYROLL IN ORDER TO TRY TO SAVE THE CITY MONEY TO PLAN FORWARD FOR THE ERP. AND IN THAT WE MISS SOMETHING AND WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO SOME WORK TO GET IT RIGHT.

THE THE CONTRACTOR HAD A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY IN THAT, WHICH IS WHY FROM THE ORIGINAL CHANGE ORDER REQUEST OF 290, IT'S DOWN TO THE PRICE IT IS. I REFUSE TO SIGN ANY DOCUMENTATION WITHOUT CONSULTING YOU IN THE ABSENCE WHEN WE HAD JUNE OFF.

SO THE CONTRACTOR HAS ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING AT RISK. I SAID IF YOU WANT TO WORK AT RISK WITH NO GUARANTEE, THAT'S. THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KEEP THE PROJECT MOVING.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, BRIAN, DID YOU BRING YOU WANT TO SHARE YOUR MEMO? I MEAN, IT'S MORE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED. IT'S IMPORTANT TO CLARIFY, BUT IT'S ALSO MORE IMPORTANT TO TELL YOU MOVING FORWARD HOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THIS DIFFERENTLY TO TRY TO AVOID SIMILAR MISTAKES IN FUTURE MISSES.

AND I KNOW YOU PREPARED SOME DOCUMENTATION FOR TONIGHT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IN MOVING FORWARD. IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHERE WE'RE AT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SIR. SO MOVING FORWARD, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE.

LIKE YOU SAID, MISTER MORTON, IT'S THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CONTRACTOR.

THE CONTRACTOR HAD SOME STAFF TURNOVER. THEY HAD SOME DELAYED ISSUES IN TERMS OF RESOLUTION.

THERE'S A TEST ENVIRONMENT SET UP THAT TRULY DIDN'T GIVE A DAY IN THE LIFE OF AN HR OR PAYROLL PARTNER,

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SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO DIFFERENTLY IS THAT WE HAVE ADJUSTED OUR PAYROLL PROCESS.

WE ACTUALLY STARTED PAYROLL A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

THAT MEANS THAT STAFF IS ACTUALLY WORKING ON PAYROLL OVER THE WEEKEND AND TRY TO GET IT DONE PRETTY QUICKLY.

USUALLY THAT TAKES ABOUT FOUR DAYS. NOW WE'RE BOUND TO ABOUT TWO AND A HALF DAYS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.

WE'VE CREATED SOME BUFFER IN THE NEW OR THE ADJUSTED TIMELINE.

THE ORIGINAL GO LIVE WAS JUNE, AND NOW WE'RE MOVING TO SEPTEMBER 20TH, AND WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME BUFFER TIME FOR ANY ISSUES THAT MAY COME ABOUT.

WE ALSO MODIFY WE'RE ACTUALLY MONITORING OUR STAFF AND NEEDS INTERNALLY JUST TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING AND MAKE SURE WE'RE MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. ON THE CONTRACTOR SIDE, WE'VE SET UP A DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY TO TO ESCALATE ISSUES AS THEY COME IN.

WE'VE ENGAGED THEIR SENIOR MANAGEMENT TEAM IN THE PROCESS, WHICH NOW THEY'RE FULLY AWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND WE'RE BEING MORE PROACTIVE IN COMMUNICATING ISSUE RESOLUTION PRETTY QUICKLY.

AND WE ALSO WORKING THROUGH ENSURING THAT IN THE FUTURE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AGAIN THIS IS PHASE ONE.

IN OUR PHASE TWO PORTION OF THIS PROJECT, WE'RE LOOKING JUST ORGANIZATIONAL WIDE, WHERE THERE ARE VACANCIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT ARE UNFILLED.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN USE ONE OF THOSE VACANCIES TO ADD ADDITIONAL STAFF INTO OUR PAYROLL AND OUR HR TEAM TO BE ABLE TO MAKE UP FOR WHAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR LAST FROM PHASE ONE. SO WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE COMPLETELY GOING IN HARD IN THIS IS THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR HR TEAM, OUR PAYROLL TEAM AND IT. THEY'VE BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB PUSHING THROUGH.

BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE WERE DEFINITELY SOME STAFFING CHALLENGES.

AND AGAIN, I ALSO WANT TO SAY WE'RE COMING FROM A 1995 SYSTEM.

AND SO WE'RE 30 YEARS AWAY FROM ANY SIGNIFICANT SOFTWARE UPGRADE FOR THE CITY, AS YOU KNOW, THAT THAT HAS PRESENTED SOME UNIQUE CHALLENGES COMING FROM SOMETHING THAT WHAT YOU SEE IS MORE OF AN ARCHAIC TYPE GAME THING.

A GREEN SCREEN, AS WE CALL IT INTERNALLY. BUT THOSE ARE THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO SEVERAL OF THESE CHALLENGES.

IT IS NOT UNFORESEEN FOR SOMETHING THIS MAJOR AS A SOFTWARE OFFER.

UPGRADE THAT YOU HAVE SOME CHALLENGES ALONG THE WAY.

WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TO TRY TO MITIGATE IT AS BEST AS WE CAN USING OUR INTERNAL STAFF.

BUT MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T GET INTO A POSITION OF A CHANGE ORDER AGAIN.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS. AND AGAIN, THE INITIAL COST FOR THE CHANGE ORDER WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO US WAS $289,000.

AND WE, GEORGE AND I AND THE TEAM ACTUALLY WORKED THROUGH SOME SEVERAL NEGOTIATION MEETINGS, AND WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE THAT NUMBER DOWN TO $118,000, WHICH IS OVER THE IMPLEMENTATION COMMITMENT.

IT'S ABOUT 4.49% OF THE ACTUAL ENGAGEMENT ORIGINAL IMPLEMENTATION AMOUNT.

SO WE'VE TRIED OUR VERY HARDEST TO TRY TO DECREASE THAT NUMBER AS BEST AS WE CAN.

WHICH NOW THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING ABOUT $1,000 IS HOW MUCH WE REDUCED THAT CHANGE ORDER FROM.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO JUST GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF STORY THERE.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR. NO, MAYOR. OKAY, I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND, THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

ORDINARILY, WE PROBABLY SEE THIS ON CONSENT, BUT AGAIN, WE HAD A PROCEDURAL, CHRISTINA, AND COME UP AND ADDRESS.

WE HAD SOME PROCEDURAL MISSES AND I JUST AGAIN, IT'S JUST PART OF THE LEARNING PROCESS THAT WE WANTED.

I WANTED TO CALL THESE OUT AND HAVE STAFF EXPLAIN TO YOU WHAT WE DID AND WHAT WE MISSED AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO CORRECT AS WE TRY TO IMPROVE OUR AGENDA, BILLS OR INFORMATION OR AGENDA BILLS OR TRANSPARENCY.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE DO THAT, AND I THINK IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR, WHAT YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR. SO WE'RE HERE TO EXPLAIN IT RATHER THAN JUST LEAVE IT IN CONSENT ON THE AGENDA AND EXPLAIN WHAT WE MISSED AND WHAT THE IMPACT.

THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT WOULD EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

CERTAINLY, A PART OF THE PROCUREMENT RULES INDICATE THAT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER IS ABLE TO WITH OUR CONTINGENT.

PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, SIR. WITH OUR CONTINUING CONSULTANT LIBRARY, OUR CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER IS ABLE TO SIGN A PURCHASE ORDER UP TO $100,000. THESE PURCHASE ORDERS ARE IN EXCESS OF THAT.

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SORRY. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO. OKAY. WILL I NEED A MOTION? SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? WE'VE GOT ONE. WHO'S TAKING A BREAK? I THINK I COULD WOULD WANT HIM TO WEIGH IN ON THIS.

BUT I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

MR. MORTON, THANK YOU AGAIN. I THINK WE'RE PRETTY GOOD, CHRISTINE.

SOMEONE'S GOT QUESTIONS OR COUNSEL. OBVIOUSLY WE CALL.

IT'S THE EXACT SAME SITUATION. THE ENTIRE PROJECT WAS WAS WAS APPROVED.

TASK ORDER. IT WAS FUNDED. WE MISSED, AS CHRISTINE SAID, THE THE APPROPRIATE PIECE OF DOCUMENTATION BECAUSE OF THE $100,000 LIMITATION.

AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO BRING TO COUNCIL AND BE CLEAR ON ON OUR LITTLE MISS.

BUT AGAIN THAT WE'RE GOING TO WE'VE ALREADY GOT WITH PROCUREMENT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T MISS THESE IN THE FUTURE AND JUST SORT OF CREATE A BETTER PROCESS GOING FORWARD.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME SO.

I'LL JUST RATHER ASK MAYOR, IF I CAN HAVE WAS WAS IT BECAUSE I WAS CALLING UP CHRISTINE? BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE YOU'RE NEW TO THE ROLE, SO YOU MAY HAVE OR MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN.

SO I JUST WANT TO ASK KIND OF HOW WAS IT MISSED ON YOUR END? I KNEW OF THE I KNEW OF THE RULES, SIR. I KNEW THAT THE CHIEF PROCUREMENT OFFICER COULD NOT SIGN A PURCHASE ORDER OVER $100,000. HOWEVER I DID NOT INCLUDE THE REQUEST IN THE IN I IN IN THE REQUEST FOR THE FUNDING.

IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART. OKAY. AND I, I GREATLY APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COME ON UP.

ALL RIGHT. SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE CHRISTINE, TAKE A LOT OF BRUNT OF THE HEAT.

IT'S JUST IT. WHEN? WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TAKEN TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

AND LIKE MR. MORTON SAID, WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING.

WE COULD HAVE DONE A DUAL APPROVAL, WHICH WOULD HAVE ANY TASK ORDER OVER $100,000.

AND THIS IS ALSO A NEW CONSULTANT CONTRACT. WE JUST WE WORK VERY DILIGENTLY TO, TO GET IT UP ONLINE LAST YEAR.

SO ANYHOW, THIS IS I DON'T THINK THE, THE BLAME LIES ANYWHERE JUST IN ONE SINGLE INDIVIDUAL OR DEPARTMENT.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO COMMUNICATE BETTER. BUT GOING FORWARD IS JUST WHEN WE'RE GOING TO YOU GUYS TO REQUEST APPROVAL FOR A PROJECT.

WE CAN ALSO DO THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A SUBSEQUENT TASK ORDER.

SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO SAVE THAT. THANK YOU.

MR. MORTON, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR.

THERE'S NO I'M NOT TRYING TO ASSIGN BLAME OR CRAIG.

I KNOW YOU GUYS PROBABLY DON'T FEEL THAT WAY. CHRISTINE STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE OUT OF HER HER ROLE AND HAS DONE A GREAT JOB KEEPING THE ORGANIZATION GOING FORWARD, HELPING US VISION, FINDING ANY DIRECTOR. ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS I JUST PROMISED THIS COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY WHEN I SAW THINGS THAT I THOUGHT WE WANTED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT, WE'D START AND START, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING OUR AGENDA PROCESS AND IMPROVING OUR PROCESSES.

SO HIS AND CHRISTINE'S COMMITTED AS MUCH AS EVERYONE SITTING OVER HERE TO DO A BETTER JOB AND BEING TRANSPARENT.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO ASSIGN BLAME OR SHAME. CHRISTINE, I VERY MUCH VALUE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

CHRISTINE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKERS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO. MAYOR. ITEM NUMBER. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SINGING BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MR. MORTON. LAST ONE. SAME. SAME EXACT ISSUE. AGAIN BRINGING IT UP.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOKED AT THE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I WAS SEEING PREVIOUSLY, THE MEETING AND REVIEWS THAT I'D SEEN ONLINE.

PEOPLE WERE THINKING, HERE WE GO, SPENDING, SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY AGAIN, THESE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED. WE MISSED THIS VERY SIMILAR ISSUE HERE. $100,000 BROUGHT FORWARD. SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR YOU AND CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD WHAT IS GOING ON.

I WON'T CALL CHRISTINA AGAIN UNLESS YOU HAVE A QUESTION, BUT IT TRULY IS THE SAME EXACT ISSUE. EVERYTHING WAS BUDGETED. EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED. WE HAVE A PROJECT WE NEED TO GET DONE. AND IN TERMS OF THE CADILLAC POND IMPROVEMENTS.

AND I JUST WANTED TO BE TRANSPARENT ON THE $100,000 ISSUE.

THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL GO TO SPEAKER CARDS. BILL BRATTON.

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THE FIRST ONE. WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE A BEFORE AND AFTER WATER QUALITY TEST BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY.

IF THE DESIGN WAS $258,000 FOR DESIGN OF A OF A WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM, COULD WE KNOW IF WE'RE WASTING OUR MONEY OR ARE WE ACTUALLY GETTING A BENEFIT FROM WHAT WE'RE SPENDING? BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, IF IT'S 258,000 JUST FOR DESIGN, YET WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THE PACKET, I WAS REALLY CONFUSED ON WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS GOING TO BE.

I SAW ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS IN THAT MEMORANDUM.

IT CAME OUT TO $1.2 MILLION, AS I'M LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS FOR TWO STORMWATER PONDS AND WATER TREATMENT OF THEM, THAT'S A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY FOR TWO PONDS. SO IT WAS JUST THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED.

I'M LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS. SO FIRST OFF, COULD I HAVE A WATER QUALITY TEST BEFORE WE DO THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEN A WATER QUALITY TEST AFTER CONSTRUCTION TO SEE IF WE'RE BENEFITING, AND THEN WHAT THE ACTUAL COST OF THE TOTAL PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE.

BECAUSE I'M GOING THROUGH THE NUMBERS, I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT REALLY WAS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THAT. THAT'S GOOD.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE CHRISTINE ANSWER THAT OR.

OKAY. MADAM SULLIVAN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN.

THIS PROJECT IS HAS BEEN AWARDED A PARTIAL GRANT.

THIS IS PART. THIS PROJECT WAS IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE TURKEY CREEK FEASIBILITY STUDY.

AND THE GRANT WAS AWARDED TO IMPROVE THE STORMWATER QUALITY BY INCREASING THE VOLUME OF THESE PONDS, AS WELL AS OTHER CHANGES TO THE POND DYNAMICS.

I DO NOT HAVE AN ENGINEERING ESTIMATE, AND I WON'T.

UNTIL THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE. BUT, YES, THE WE WERE AWARDED $550,000 FOR THIS WITH A OUR MATCH WITH 725,000. YEAH. HE WAS ASKING ABOUT WATER TESTING.

YES, YES, YES. THERE ARE METRICS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET AS PART OF THE GRANT PROCESS.

OKAY? OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND, YOU HAVE A QUESTION AFTER THE DESIGN.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES ARE DOING, OR IS A CONTRACTOR DOING THIS JUST THE JUST THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE POND? IT DEPENDS ON WHAT IS REQUIRED. CITY EMPLOYEES CAN CERTAINLY DIG THE POND AND IMPROVE THE CAPACITY OF THE POND.

HOWEVER, IF ANY KIND OF TREATMENT ADDITIVES SUCH AS BOLD AND GOLD BAFFLE BOXES.

ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE HAVE TO BE ADDED TO IT.

THEN STAFF WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT. THERE'S ALSO A A COST LIMITATION AS TO WHAT STAFF CAN DO.

THEY CAN'T DO A $1.2 MILLION PROJECT. YEAH, I GET THAT.

BUT THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I, I GET ALL THAT.

BUT THERE'S SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS THAT CAN BE THAT WE CAN DO.

WE CAN PERFORM JUST TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT THERE.

IF IF POSSIBLE. WE'RE ALWAYS CERTAINLY LOOKING FOR WAYS TO SAVE MONEY, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I MAY REMIND COUNCIL THAT IF WE TAKE STAFF OFF OF THEIR REGULAR DAILY DUTIES TO ENLARGE THIS POND, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY ARE NOT DOING.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE TO THE QUESTION ABOUT THE WATER QUALITY.

THESE THESE PONDS ARE DESIGNED TO CLEAN THE WATER AND THEN DISCHARGE THE WATER.

RIGHT. SO THE THE WATER QUALITY AND THE POND, IN ESSENCE, REALLY NEVER CHANGES.

BUT THE WATER THAT'S LEAVING THE POND SHOULD BE CLEANER.

AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS ADDING MORE CAPACITY TO THE POND TO HOLD MORE WATER.

I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, BUT I AM NOT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER, SO I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT I HAVE LEARNED THROUGH MY CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF ON THESE ITEMS. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE WILL BE REMOVING ACCUMULATED SEDIMENTS AND IN IN DOING THAT, WE WILL BE IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF THE WATER GOING INTO THE TURKEY CREEK.

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COME ON. OFFER US ONE. OH, YEAH. WHERE GOVERNOR WAS.

YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO THIS. I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD BE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ON THIS.

THAT. WELL, JUST. I KNOW IT'S GETTING A LITTLE LATE NOW, BUT JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DIRECT OUR QUESTIONS.

THERE'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YEAH, YEAH. JUST FOR FUTURE, BECAUSE I REMEMBER I FORGOT WHO IT WAS WE HAD PRIOR NATALIE SHAVER BEFORE.

YES. WE DON'T HAVE HER ANYMORE. SO UTILIZE YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW YOUR JOB AND DO THE JOB, YOU KNOW.

SO. UNDERSTOOD? YEAH. THAT'S ALL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. MA'AM. APPRECIATE YOU. I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

THANK YOU. MR.. MORTON. I GUESS YOU'RE CALLING LARRY UP OR ARE YOU GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS? WHO'S GOING TO INTRODUCE AND START? AND THANK YOU, SIR.

LARRY'S HERE FOR BACKUP. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. SO IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO. I THINK IT WAS BACK IN APRIL.

YES. COUNCIL SIGNIFIED THEIR INTENT AND DESIRE FOR US TO SHIFT TO A FOUR MONTH RESERVE POLICY, WHICH IS AN OUTSTANDING IDEA, AND I THINK WE NEED TO GET THERE. HOWEVER, I'M ASKING US TO GET THERE INCREMENTALLY.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS LETTING US PROGRAM A SPECIFIC AMOUNT FOR NOW, POTENTIALLY COMING TO COUNCIL AND ASK AT THE END OF THE YEAR IF WE HAVE EXCESS REVENUE THAT ISN'T DESIGNATED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY TO PUT IN HERE.

I'M ASKING FOR THE AMOUNT THAT WE FUND ANNUALLY TO START SETTING ASIDE TO BUILDING A RESERVE AS $2.5 MILLION.

AND THE BEST WAY I CAN JUST DESCRIBE IT TO YOU IS WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE ON DAY ONE, WHEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE TOOK OUT A MORTGAGE, AND NOW WE CAN'T KEEP THE LIGHTS ON OR PUT A CAR IN THE GARAGE OR, YOU KNOW, OPEN THE DOOR.

BASICALLY, IF WE KEEP THE CURRENT POLICY AS IS, WE'RE GOING TO START THE 2026 BUDGET.

JUST SHY OF $9 MILLION IN THE HOLE. AND I'M NOT BEING DRAMATIC WHEN I SAY IT, BUT WE'LL BE TURNING OFF LIGHTS AND SHUTTING DOWN OPERATIONS.

WE CAN'T START WITH A $9 MILLION NEGATIVE DEFICIT KNOWING WHAT POTENTIALLY OUR OUR MILLAGE IS.

SO THE STRATEGY IS EXCELLENT. THE IDEA IS EXCELLENT.

I THINK YOU GUYS WANT US COMMITTED TO GETTING THERE.

AGAIN, JUST ASKING FOR AN INCREMENTAL APPROACH AND THE AMOUNT OF ROUGHLY 2.5 MILLION.

WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IN OUR BUDGET YEARS TO SEE IF WE CAN ADJUST THAT UPWARD.

AND IN A SIMPLE NUTSHELL, LARRY IS HERE TO ANSWER A LOT OF TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR TONIGHT. COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. MORTON? I HAVE ONE. OKAY. IN 2023, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

DIDN'T WE FREEZE THE MILLAGE RATE TO TO ACCUMULATE FOR THIS HERE? I THINK WE FROZE IT, IF I BELIEVE, TO WHERE OUR MILLAGE RATE DID NOT GO UP.

CORRECT. WE HELD IT THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. YES.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD KIND OF GET US OUT OF THE SITUATION HERE IF WE APPROACH THAT AGAIN? CURRENTLY, IF WE WOULD LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS, WE WOULD START THE YEAR NEGATIVE, EVEN WITH THE 3% CAP.

IN FACT, WHEN WE GO TO THE THE WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK, I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE HIGHLIGHT OR LOWLIGHT.

I SHOULD SAY IS WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING INTO A AREA THAT WE'VE NEVER BEEN BEFORE.

ANGELICA COLLINS HAS BEEN MAKING COMMENTS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

HOW THE CAP MILLAGE IS GOING TO GO BELOW ROLLBACK NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU WOULD HAVE TO PHYSICALLY BREAK THE CAP JUST TO GO TO ROLLBACK FOR NEXT YEAR.

IT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE. NEVER BEEN IN THIS POSITION.

SO TO HELP US GET OUT OF THE SITUATION IS YES.

IF YOU MOVE IT FORWARD AND HOLD THE MILLAGE WHERE IT IS, WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO AND THIS IS JUST A ESTIMATE WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DRAW IN PROBABLY ABOUT ANOTHER $3.6 MILLION IF WE HELD THE MILLAGE, WHICH STILL WOULD BE THE 6 MILLION NEGATIVE.

YES. YOU STILL HAVE THE NEGATIVE THAT YOU STILL HAVE. IT'S JUST LOOKING AT THE FIRE TRUCKS. WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OUR ISO ONE, WHICH I'LL PRESENT AT THE AT THE BUDGET HEARING.

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I'M TELLING A STORY AHEAD OF TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO COMMIT A LOT OF MONEY TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY THIS YEAR. RIGHT.

SO WHAT WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST, MR. MORTON? WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS TO TO GO AHEAD AND LET'S GO BACK, IF WE CAN, TO THE TWO MONTH POLICY. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MILEAGES AND CAPS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT REALLY DOESN'T SOLVE OUR ISSUE RIGHT NOW. IT SOLVES OUR ISSUE IS TRYING TO TAKE $17 MILLION OUT OF OUR FUNDS AND STICK IT INTO A RESERVE.

RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE HAVE TO CONSTRUCT OUR WAY THERE, WE HAVE TO BUILD OUR WAY TO A RESERVE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SHORTCHANGE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IT WILL DO. IF WE DON'T, IT'S GOING TO FORCE US TO START LOOKING AT AT BONDING.

AND BONDING IS NOT FINANCE. BONDING IS DEBT. I'M ALWAYS CLEAR ABOUT THAT IN MY POSITION, BECAUSE THEN WE PAY INTEREST AND WE THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD WHEN WE MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PAY OUR BILLS AND TO BE PROACTIVE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR CURRENT PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS.

SO AGAIN, IN BRIEF MESSAGE TO GIVE US THAT OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO THE ORIGINAL POLICY.

AND WE WILL WORK WITH COUNCIL EVERY YEAR, 2.5 MILLION MORE IF WE CAN, IF WE CAN MANAGE IT, OR ANY UNREALIZED MONEY AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START TO BUILD US TO A STRONGER RESERVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? OKAY. THANK YOU. SPEAKER CARD SIR.

NO, NO, NO. NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. OKAY.

AND THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR THE RECORD WOULD BE $8,541,472 WOULD BE NEGATIVE.

TO START, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR. THANK YOU.

SO IT WOULD BE TO GO BACK TO THE TWO MONTHS IS WHAT WE'RE.

YES. LOOK, WITH THE ADDITION IN FISCAL YEAR 26 OF CONTRIBUTING 2.5 MILLION DESIGNATED TO THE RESERVE TO START BUILDING A MORE ROBUST RESERVE BALANCE.

OKAY, GENTLEMEN, I NEED. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

OKAY. CHANDLER. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SINGING BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE.

PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO.

MISS SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2525, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING ALLOCATING FUNDS AS OUTLINED AND ATTACHED TO EXHIBIT A CONSISTING OF THREE PAGES AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN. RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CHAPTER 35 FINANCE ADOPTING, RATIFYING, AND CONFIRMING AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

MISTER MR. MORTON? YES. THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL IN THE COMMENT WE GOT EARLIER AS WELL. WELL RECEIVED.

AND STAFF IS IN AGREEMENT. WE'RE DOING TOO MANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS. IT'S WHERE WE'RE AT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME.

WE'D LOVE TO MOVE AWAY. AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON HAD ASKED ME A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHY WE DO THEM.

AND WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB FORECASTING, BUDGETING, NOT JUST LINE BY LINE, BUT DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.

IT'S PART OF THIS INITIATIVE. WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL HOW WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE PROCESS NEXT YEAR AND DO MORE TOWARDS MOVING TOWARDS MORE TRANSPARENT, FORWARD THINKING, COMPLETE BUDGETING. AS AN END POINT OF FACT, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, AND THIS WORKDAY SOLUTION IS GOING TO HELP US ADVANCE THAT GOAL.

SO TONIGHT HERE WE ARE DEALING WITH AND LARRY IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT THE CITY HAS DONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

AND OF COURSE, WE'RE AGAIN, UNTIL WE GET TO THE NEW BUDGET AND START THE NEW THE NEW ALLOCATIONS AND PROCEDURES, THIS IS HOW WE HAVE ADJUSTED AND MOVED THE MONEY.

LARRY'S ARE A QUICK CONVERSATION YOU WANTED TO GIVE OR SHARE OR JUST BE HERE FOR COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS ORDINANCE.

ANY HIGHLIGHTS YOU WANT TO BRING UP OR OR COMMENTS, PLEASE? ACTUALLY, YES. I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ONE THING THAT IS WE ARE TRYING TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT WITHIN THE BUDGET AND WITHIN THIS BUDGET AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT HERE. IF YOU WOULD NOTICE, WE'RE CLOSING OUT A BUNCH OF PROJECTS.

WE'RE CLOSING OUT ACTUALLY 45 PROJECTS THAT ARE EITHER COMPLETE, NOT NEEDED ANYMORE, BUDGETED IN THE WRONG LOCATION.

LET'S SAY THEY BUDGETED. THE CAPITAL ITEM NEEDS TO BE OPERATING. WE'RE JUST BECOMING MORE EFFICIENT. WE'RE TRYING TO CONDENSE OUR PROJECTS.

IT HAS BEEN A WE HAVE WAY HUNDREDS, LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF PROJECTS.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO CONDENSE THAT DOWN TO BECOME MORE EFFICIENT.

AND THAT'S PART OF THIS BUDGET RIGHT HERE. IF YOU'D GO THROUGH IT, YOU'D SEE 45 DIFFERENT ADJUSTMENTS.

AND THEN MOVING FORWARD WE'RE GOING TO BE MONITORING THEM MORE ROUTINELY. CORRECT. YEAH. OKAY.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. BUT IT DOESN'T JUST FALL ON YOU, SIR.

IT'S OUR DEPARTMENT'S MONITORING. MORE CORRECTLY.

MORE CONSISTENTLY. BECAUSE, LIKE, YOU SEE, THE TWO BUDGET CORRECTIONS, ONE WITH THE BUDGET FIRE PROMOTION AND THEN THE BUDGET POLICE PROMOTION OF

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SO WE ACTUALLY WE'RE DOING IT ON BOTH ENDS NOW.

OKAY. WE HAVE MORE STAFF WITHIN THE BUDGET DEPARTMENT THAT WE'RE NOW DIGGING IN AND LOOKING CLOSER TO SEE IF THERE'S A DISCREPANCY.

WE ALSO HAVE AN ASSET MANAGER NOW THAT IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH EACH DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS PROJECTS ARE CONCERNED, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE BUDGETING THEM CORRECTLY AND AGAIN, MORE EFFICIENTLY.

I WANT TO CONSTANTLY KEEP PUSHING THE EFFICIENCY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BRATTON.

BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AS I GO THROUGH THESE AMENDMENTS, LOOKING AT THE SPENDING AND THE COSTS, I WASN'T NEARLY AS, LET'S SAY, NERVOUS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT AT MY HOUSE TONIGHT, AS I WAS NOW HEARING THAT THE STATE THAT WE'RE GETTING AND WE COULD BE STARTING THE FISCAL YEAR $8 MILLION IN A HOLE, THAT SCARES ME EVEN MORE THAN LOOKING AT THIS, BUT I'LL REVERT TO TWO ITEMS THAT I'VE JUST HEARD ABOUT, AND I'M I'M GOING TO STEAL SOMEBODY ELSE'S INPUT BECAUSE I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

IT MIGHT BE TOO LATE TO DO IT NOW FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET, BUT SOMETHING WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT AT THE UPCOMING WORKSHOP, AND THAT WAS CALLED ZERO LINE BUDGETING, WHERE EVERY DEPARTMENT DOESN'T SAY, WELL, LAST YEAR WE HAD THIS MUCH MONEY.

THIS IS HOW MUCH MORE WE NEED THIS YEAR. NO START FROM GROUND ZERO WHERE YOU HAVE $0 TO BEGIN WITH, AND YOU LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE LINE AND YOU HAVE TO BUILD EVERY SINGLE LINE.

SURE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE TIME, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE MORE IN-DEPTH AND WE'LL GET A REAL WE'LL GET A REAL BUDGET OF WHAT WE'RE SPENDING, WHERE WE'RE WASTING IT, WHERE IT'S GOING ZERO LINE BUDGETING.

AND I'M STEALING THAT FROM SOMEBODY BACK THERE.

BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD IDEA. BUT GETTING TO A NEW BUSINESS, ITEM NUMBER TWO.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN THERE WHERE WE HAD THE SEWAGE PIPE REPAIR.

WAS THAT GOING TO BE IN THE AMENDMENT FOR BUDGETING ON THIS? BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT WAS. IT WAS I KNOW IT'S GOT TO BE AN EXPENSE.

AND ALONG WITH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS, IF THAT WAS A I FORGET HOW BIG THEY SAID THE CRACK WAS AND BECAUSE OF A HUMAN ERROR THAT IT RUPTURED. WELL, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME HUMAN ERROR NOW, JUST TEN FEET FURTHER DOWN THE LINE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

AND THAT'S GOING TO COME INTO AN AMENDMENT ON MY FISCAL BUDGET ALSO.

RIGHT. SO. TWO QUESTIONS. HOW MUCH HAVE WE ALREADY SPENT? IS IT GOING TO APPEAR IN THIS AMENDMENT. AND.

WHAT WHAT'S YOUR CAUTIONARY PROTECTION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GOING TO END UP WITH THE SAME PREDICAMENT NEXT WEEK? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO.

LARRY, I HAVE A QUESTION. YOU HAVE, AND I THINK THIS IS PART OF MAINTENANCE $18,000 FOR MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY, AND YOU WANT TO REMOVE THAT.

ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER THINGS. I'M TRYING TO FIND IT ON HERE.

I'M SORRY. YEAH. IT'S PAGE TWO. TOP OF PAGE TWO.

OKAY, THAT'S THAT'S PART OF PARKS AND FACILITIES.

AND I KNOW THAT GREG MINOR HAD ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT.

HIM AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY.

YEAH. TO GET MORE DETAIL ON IT, GREG, I WOULD HAVE TO HAVE YOU COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THAT.

SORRY. AND I, I REALIZED THAT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH JUST TRANSPORTATION, I WOULD IMAGINE.

SO WE WE'RE LOOKING TO CLOSE, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL PROJECTS, RIGHT? ONE BUDGET ITEM IS MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY. RIGHT.

THAT WAS ORIGINALLY, IF YOU REMEMBER COUNCILMAN FOSTER, THAT WAS HIS REQUEST.

SO WE WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS, APPLIED. IT WAS A YOU HAD THREE YEARS TO GET THE ANY PIECE OF MILITARY EQUIPMENT.

I CHECKED ON IT BASICALLY EVERY QUARTER. AND IT'S ONLY GOOD FOR THREE YEARS.

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IS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT WHERE ALL THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT COMES FROM.

BUT AS OF JUNE 27TH, THERE WAS STILL NO EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE.

AND SO THAT WAS THE REASON. IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF APPLYING AGAIN. THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS BASICALLY IF WE HAD RECEIVED ANY EQUIPMENT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BUILD A CONCRETE SLAB AND FENCING AND ALL THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS FOR.

BUT RIGHT NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IN WE HAD THREE YEARS TO GET.

THERE WAS NO EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE. AND SO IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF APPLYING AGAIN.

OKAY. SO RIGHT ALONG THAT SAME VEIN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NO MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY, BUT PERHAPS THOSE $18,000 COULD GO TOWARDS A A STRUCTURE AT SACRIFICE PARK IN THAT MONUMENT.

WELL, ACTUALLY IN APRIL THE BOARD MADE A DECISION WHERE YOU WANTED TO PUT A VETS MEMORIAL AT VETS PARK, AND THERE WAS NO IN FACT, THAT MAY BE A QUESTION LATER ON.

THERE WAS NO GUIDANCE GIVEN. SO I PROPOSED A LIST OF QUESTIONS I SENT TO TO DOCTOR ROBINSON.

AND I BELIEVE THAT MAY BE A DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, LIKE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY WANT? OKAY. WELL, THAT'S GOOD THEN, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT UP. SURE. AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE WE HAVE PALM BAY, AS YOU KNOW BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL SPECIALIST HORSLEY PALM BAY SPECIALISTS.

SANCHO, WE HAVE TRISTAN WRIGHT, MOST RECENTLY.

BUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT O.F THAT THAT WE'RE KIA GUNNERY SERGEANT GIFFORD WHO EARNED A SILVER STAR, WAS CALLED A LEGEND DURING HIS HIS COMBAT PALM BAY YEARS THAT WE COULD BUILD A MONUMENT RIGHT THERE AT VETERANS PARK NAMING OUR OWN.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD IS LIKE, HOW FAR DO WE WANT TO GO BACK? DO WE WANT TO INCLUDE JUST PALM BAY RESIDENTS OR IS IT BREVARD COUNTY RESIDENTS? DO WE WANT TO GO GO BACK TO WORLD WAR ONE TO CREATE? I WOULD SAY MAKE IT OEF WOULD BE MY OWN. OIF ANOTHER ONE IS PFC CRICHTON WELDON, WHO WAS ONE OF THE VERY FIRST CASUALTIES OF OF THE WAR.

WE HAVE PALM BAYERS THAT AND I ALWAYS SAID THE SAME GUYS THAT WE SHOULD BE RECOGNIZING.

I WOULD WANT TO KEEP IT TO ALL VETERANS PACKAGE I WAS GOING TO WITH THE QUESTIONS.

I SAID, I ACTUALLY HAVE A PACKAGE, WHICH QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR CLARIFICATIONS.

I WENT UP TO, AS YOU KNOW, BREVARD MEMORIAL CENTER UP ON.

YES. AND I'VE GOT LOTS OF PHOTOS. SO DO WE WANT A WALL? DO WE WANT A PLAQUE? DO WE WANT YOU KNOW PAVERS? I MEAN, THERE'S A HOST OF QUESTIONS. I WAS GOING TO ASK I DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OFF THIS.

NO, I GET IT. BUT I THINK RIGHT, RIGHT HERE, I'M.

I'M WEIGHING IN WITH. AND I'M GOING TO BE WANTING TO USE THE SEED SEED MONEY TO GET THINGS STARTED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW. YES, SIR. THERE'S NO THERE'S NO ESTABLISHED.

SO TO YOUR ARGUMENT AT THE MEMORIAL CENTER IN, IN MERRITT ISLAND, THEY HAVE PALM BAY LISTED THERE.

RIGHT. RIGHT THERE. SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING AND THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD TEMPLATE.

BUT I'M GOING TO YIELD TO THE CORPSMAN OR COUNCILMAN ENGINEER.

THAT WAS FIRST MAN. THANK YOU MARY. IT WENT AWAY.

OH. AS YOU GO ALONG AS YOU WERE. WELL, I JUST SAID THAT'S FINE.

I'M SORRY. NO. AS YOU WERE DEPUTY MAYOR. NO. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH.

TOUCH BACK ON THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE ZERO BASED BUDGETING.

THOSE WERE SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH WITH MR. MORGAN. AND WE WERE IN THIS TRANSITIONARY PERIOD OF, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP CHANGE.

AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, MR. MORGAN AND DIRECTORS WERE, YOU KNOW, DRINKING FROM A FIRE HYDRANT.

AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS SELECTION PROCESS OF BRINGING ON MR..

MR.. MORTON AND AGAIN, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE HAD IN COUNCIL BRIEFINGS, AND THERE JUST WASN'T TIME.

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AND AND EXPECT TO SEE FISCAL YEAR 27 TO BE A ZERO BASED BUDGETING FORMAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO THE LIGHT. AND IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT FEEL FREE.

I DON'T RIGHT NOW, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN.

YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYOR, I'M GOING TO WAIT TILL COUNCIL REPORTS. OKAY.

COPY. OKAY. GOOD ENOUGH. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY. SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU COULD REALLOCATE THAT.

THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY THING IS REALLOCATING THAT FOR SEED MONEY.

FOR THAT MILITARY STATIC DISPLAY. I THINK THAT THAT'D BE COOL.

I NEED A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY BUDGET MONITOR.

NO, WE'RE ON ORDINANCE 25. MAKE A MOTION FOR ORDINANCE 20 2525, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILOR OR DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'M SORRY. WE'RE ALL RUSTY. YEAH, OR. OR EXHAUSTED.

ONE OF THE TWO GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. MORTON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, ITEM THREE.

AND I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND PRECEDE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

THESE GENERALLY WOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ON YOUR CONSENT. YOU WOULDN'T EVEN SEEING THEM ARE REALLY TALKED ABOUT UNLESS YOU PULLED IT. AND AGAIN IN TRANSPARENCY OF US LARRY TONIGHT TO COME GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION SHARE ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AGAIN WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO BUDGETING AND WITH YOU AND THE PUBLIC. AND SO I WANTED LARRY JUST TO ADDRESS THESE AND BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND ACTUALLY THIS IS JUST THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF THE SECOND QUARTER OF THE FISCAL YEAR AS FAR AS FOR THE FINANCIAL REPORT.

THIS IS AN UNAUDITED AUDITED REPORT. IT'S JUST INFORMATION THAT WE PULL OUT OF OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM TO SHOW WHERE THE CITY STANDS AS OF MARCH 31ST OF 2025. IF YOU HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.

IF NOT, WHERE? WHERE ARE WE? AS OF MARCH 2020.

WELL, IT'S. CAN YOU SHARE THAT, PLEASE? SURE.

AS FAR AS OUR REVENUES ARE CONCERNED, WE'RE AT $81 MILLION WITHIN THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THAT IS ROUGHLY 53% OF WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO COLLECT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WHICH IS NORMAL 50% FOR SIX MONTHS THROUGH THE YEAR.

OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES THROUGH MARCH, 65 MILLION, OR 42.7%, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT LOW, BUT IT WILL. IT ACTUALLY CATCHES UP NORMALLY, OUR EXPENSES WITHIN THE SUMMERTIME.

THAT'S WHEN WE START SPENDING A LOT MORE. AS FAR AS RECREATION IS CONCERNED, PARKS ARE CONCERNED.

THAT'S WHERE A LOT MORE OF THE EXPENSES GO. AS FAR AS INVESTMENTS, THERE IS A LIST IN HERE OF OUR INVESTMENTS. OUR INVESTMENTS THAT WE DO ARE INCREASING EVERY YEAR.

FROM FROM MARCH OF 24 TO MARCH OF 25, IT HAS GONE UP WHICH PUTS US IN A POSITIVE POSITION.

OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. YEAH. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SO I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR SIX YEARS, AND WHAT MR. MORTON WAS GETTING TO EARLIER WAS VERY ALARMING TO ME, BECAUSE THAT'S BEEN WHILE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL IN REGARDS TO THE 8 MILLION THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BEING IN THE HOLE IN THE FUTURE. I BELIEVE IN ACCOUNTABILITY, YOU KNOW, STARTS WITH MYSELF AND THEN OTHERS.

SO NOT NECESSARILY FOR NOW, BUT FOR NEXT WEEK'S BUDGET WORKSHOP.

IF YOU COULD PAINT A PICTURE FROM WHERE WE WERE AND HOW WE GOT HERE IN REGARDS TO WHAT WAS MISSED, WHAT WAS NOT MISSED IN REGARDS TO THEIR YOU ARE YOU ON PAR IS WHEN IT WAS CHANGED FROM TWO MONTHS TO FOUR MONTHS.

HOW WE MISSED IT AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. I JUST IF WE KNOW BETTER, WE CAN DO BETTER.

THAT'S WHY I'M. THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. SO JUST.

I KNOW I'M ASKING FOR A LOT WITHIN A WEEK SPAN, BUT JUST WE CAN GIVE YOU I THINK I THINK JUST FOR CLARITY.

SURE. YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MADE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE RESERVE BALANCE, WHICH CAUSED US GOING INTO THE NEGATIVE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

WE CHANGED THAT POLICY TONIGHT, WHICH WE WON'T BE GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR.

NEGATIVE. RIGHT. RIGHT. OKAY. WE WILL NOT. SO.

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YEAH. YEAH, WE WERE REALLY AGGRESSIVE WITH THE FOUR MONTH.

THAT'S BEEN NICE. YEAH. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'M GOOD.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON ITEM THREE. GENTLEMEN.

OKAY. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? ITEM THREE. I NEED A MOTION.

MAKE A MOTION TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE CITY'S BUDGET MONITORING REPORT FOR THE SECOND QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 2025.

UNAUDITED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO.

ANY NAYS? PASSES FIVE ZERO. ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MR. MORTON. AGAIN. SAME THING. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

LARRY WOJCIECHOWSKI IS HERE TO PRONOUNCE. I GOT IT.

OKAY. AND THIS IS JUST A REGURGITATION. EXCUSE ME? A REGURGITATION OF INSTEAD OF ON THE BUDGET SIDE.

THE FINANCIAL SIDE. IT'S ONE AND THE SAME. THE ONLY THING THAT IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THE FINANCIAL DOCUMENT VERSUS THE BUDGET DOCUMENT, IS THE BUDGET DOCUMENT LOOKS AT REAL EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES.

AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT YOU SEE. IT ONLY SHOWS TRUE EXPENSES.

THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO REPORTS.

SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO COMPARE THE TWO NUMBERS, YOU WOULD NOTICE THAT THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE AND YOU WOULD SAY, WHY ARE WE SHOWING.

SO WHAT A DIFFERENCE IN EXPENDITURES. WELL, AGAIN, IN BUDGET WE SET ASIDE TRUE EXPENDITURES AND ENCUMBRANCES.

THE FINANCIAL SIDE IS JUST WHAT WE SPENT, AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

COPY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN? ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MA'AM. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECOND, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MISS LEFFLER.

THIS ITEM IS TO CONSIDER REIMBURSING DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE FOR TRAVEL EXPENSES IN THE AMOUNT OF 1440 $445.43 WHILE ATTENDING THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES FLY-IN, WHICH WAS HELD IN WASHINGTON, D.C.

FROM JUNE 23RD TO 25TH. THIS WAS A LAST MINUTE TRIP, AND HE WAS UNABLE TO OBTAIN COUNCIL CONSENSUS BEFORE THE TRAVEL, SINCE THERE WERE NO MEETINGS HELD IN JUNE PURSUANT TO THE CHARTER.

YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO. OKAY. GO AHEAD.

CARRY ON, CARRY ON. I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION AND SAY IT WASN'T FOR LEAGUE OF CITIES FAST FLYING.

IT WAS FOR A SPECIAL REQUEST BY OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST, AL CLAYTON.

I MIGHT BE SAYING THAT INCORRECTLY. TO COME UP TO WASHINGTON.

THEY REQUESTED THAT WE COME. IT WAS AN OPPORTUNE TIME NOT ONLY TO THANK CONGRESSMAN HERROD AND CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR TWO TRANSPORTATION FOR TRANSPORTATION AND A PROJECT HE PUT IN FOR US. BUT ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE COMPOUND, WHICH IS A COUNCIL STRATEGIC PRIORITY.

I WAS VERY GRATEFUL TO MAYOR JAFFE, WHO AND I WAS GOING TO BRIEF IN HIS REPORT ON THIS, BUT HE JUST SAID, HEY, LOOK, I CAN'T GET REIMBURSED. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF CITY COMES FIRST, AND I HOPE I GET REIMBURSED. AND WE WENT UP TO WASHINGTON. I DON'T WANT TO SPILL THOSE DETAILS FOR HIM TO SEND YOU TO DO, MAYOR. BUT WE ARE ASKING THAT WE, RESPECT THAT AND THANK THE MAYOR FOR DEPUTY MAYOR FOR MAKING THAT TRIP AND GOING UP AND ON HIS OWN NICKEL AND HIS OWN RESCUE DEPUTY MAYOR.

YEAH, I MEAN, I CAN SHARE A REPORT NOW OR I CAN SHARE IT DURING COUNCIL REPORTS.

YES. SURE. NOW? WELL, NO. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? WELL, IT'S IN MY REPORT. OKAY. SO I COULD DO AN HOUR.

I COULD DO IT. GO AHEAD, CARRY ON. SIR. GO AHEAD.

DO IT. DO IT. YEAH. GO AHEAD. SIR. YEAH. LET'S SHOW THE VALUE.

OKAY, SO AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, TRAVEL LAST WEEK WITH THE CITY MANAGER, OUR MISSION WAS DISCUSSED.

THE COMPOUND AND THE BAYFRONT AREA, SPECIFICALLY OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

IT WAS A VERY, VERY PACKED SCHEDULE, BUT VERY WELL COORDINATED THROUGH OUR FEDERAL LOBBYIST, MARY KIRKLAND, AND HIS TEAM AND CONFIDENCE THE ENTIRE TIME.

OUR FIRST MEETING WAS WITH BLAKE NOLAN, THE CHIEF CHIEF OF STAFF FOR CONGRESSMAN VERN BUCHANAN.

AND CONGRESSMAN BUCHANAN IS THE VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS AND THE WAYS AND MEANS IS A CHIEF TAX WRITING COMMITTEE AND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

WE ALSO MET WITH DON DAWSON GLENN, WHO WAS THE POLICY TEAM LEADER FOR SENATOR ASHLEY MOODY.

AFTER THAT, WE MET WITH LOGAN ANDERSON, WHO WAS THE ECONOMIC LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT FOR SENATOR RICK SCOTT.

AND WE WERE ALSO ABLE TO BRIEFLY MEET WITH SENATOR SCOTT.

OUR BEST MEETING WAS WITH MEMBER CONGRESSMAN HERODOTUS.

AS MR. MORTON MENTIONED, WE WERE ABLE TO THANK HIM IN PERSON FOR SUBMITTING TWO PROJECTS FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHICH IS A REALLY BIG DEAL BECAUSE AS A CONGRESSMAN, THEY ARE LIMITED TO 15 PROJECTS TOTAL IN APPROPRIATIONS.

AND HE SUBMITTED TO CONGRESSMAN OFFICE AS WELL AS THE OTHERS TO HELP US ACHIEVE OUR GOAL WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONES IN PALM BAY, AND GIVE US SOME HOMEWORK TO MEET WITH OUR COUNTY AND STATE REPRESENTATIVES, TO JOIN IN OUR CITY'S EFFORTS.

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OUR LAST MEETING WAS NOT ON THE HILL. IT WAS WITH A THINK TANK GROUP CALLED ECONOMIC INNOVATION GROUP, AND WE MET WITH KATHERINE LYONS. AND IG IS A NONPARTISAN PUBLIC POLICY ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH POLICYMAKERS ON OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

THE CHALLENGE WITH THE COMPOUND IS OPPORTUNITY ZONES REQUIRE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL.

COMPOUND HAS NO RESIDENTIAL. AND SO OUR PURPOSE TO GO UP THERE WAS TO DISCUSS WITH THESE POLICYMAKERS WAYS WE CAN TWEAK THE LANGUAGE IN FAVOR OF US. OVERALL, THE MEETINGS WERE, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY POSITIVE, IN ADDITION TO HAVING FEDERAL SUPPORT IF WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE LANGUAGE FAVORABLE FOR THE COMPOUND FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES THE GOVERNOR OF FLORIDA IS THE ONE THAT ACTUALLY DESIGNATES THE MAPS.

SO THE NEXT STEPS ARE BEING HANDLED BY OUR LOBBYISTS. OUR GOALS WILL BE HANDLED THROUGH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS, POSSIBLY WITH THE RECONCILIATION RECONCILIATION PACKAGE, OR POSSIBLY THROUGH A TECHNICAL CORRECTION BILL OR OTHER STANDALONE OPPORTUNITY ZONE BILL, WHICH WILL ENABLE AREAS WITH LIMITED OR NO POPULATION TO BE DESIGNATED AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE.

AND I FEEL EXTREMELY CONFIDENT AFTER OUR MEETING IS UP THERE AND THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH OUR FELLOW LOBBYISTS, THAT WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. SO IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.

NO, I FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR JUMPING IN ON SHORT NOTICE.

YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW I REALIZE THIS IS TO REIMBURSE YOU AND AND SOME OF THE GUYS MAY, MAY PULL ON THOSE PURSE STRINGS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME. BUT IN TOTAL TRANSPARENCY, YOU STEPPING IN AND SAYING, NOT NOT IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'M DOING THIS ON MY DIME BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO IMPROVE THE CITY.

YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR THAT. AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

DEPUTY MAYOR, THEN, MOREOVER, THAN THAT, GENTLEMEN, I THINK THAT SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T HEAR WAS THE OPPORTUNE TIME. THE BEST TIME TO HAVE BEEN UP IN D.C.

WAS LAST WEEK BECAUSE THEY GET MAD RUSH, KIND OF LIKE TALLAHASSEE.

AND IT'S ALL CRAZY. JUST CRAZY. THEY'RE MEETING WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE.

BUT WHAT I, I UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU ACTUALLY WENT UP WITH THE CITY MANAGER DURING THE BEST IDEA.

IT WAS A SWEET SPOT TO BE IN D.C. WHEN THERE IS NOT SUCH A BIG RUSH AND BE ABLE TO GET THAT TIME, YOU, YOU GOT TO MEET WITH RICK SCOTT AND YOU GOT TO MEET WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVE MIKE HURD.

SO IN THAT, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER PUT A MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL IN SUCH A POSITION.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE APPROVED TRAVEL FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEN COME BACK AND APPROVE THEM, OR THEY'VE GONE AND THEY TRAVEL. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE WE DON'T PUT ANOTHER MEMBER ON THIS DAIS IN THAT POSITION WHERE THEY WOULD HAVE TO SACRIFICE AND THEN GAMBLE. OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE.

AM I GOING TO GET REIMBURSED? AND I, I KNOW I'M KIDDING ABOUT THEM NOT REIMBURSING YOU, BUT TO TO THAT LIGHT YOU STEPPED UP.

AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT FACT. I REALLY AM.

DEPUTY MAYOR, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. YEAH. WE ALSO, WE SURVIVED A BOMB THREAT AT OUR HOTEL AROUND MIDNIGHT AS WELL.

SO THAT WAS THAT MADE THE TRIP INTERESTING. WELL, WELCOME TO DC.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, THANK YOU ALL BOTH FOR THIS.

THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE AS A COUNCIL HAVE BEEN BRINGING UP FOR YEARS NOW IN REGARDS TO OPPORTUNITY ZONES.

I'M GONNA FLIP MY SCREEN BECAUSE I WANT EVERYBODY TO SEE THE CURRENT OPPORTUNITY ZONE WE HAVE IN PALM BAY.

AND MOST OF IT, YOU SEE IT'S GREEN, SO WE CAN'T EVEN USE IT.

AND THE OTHER PORTION THAT YOU DO SEE IS OVER IN MICO, WHICH ISN'T IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO I DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY OF HOW IT GOT TO BE THIS OR WHY IT GOT TO BE THIS, BUT I'M I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR Y'ALL TACKLING THIS BECAUSE IT'S SHOWN THAT IT WORKS IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES. AND IF WE IF WE CAN DO LIKE COCOA OR MELBOURNE WHO HAVE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITY ZONES AND THAT'S EVEN BETTER.

SO YEAH. OR TITUSVILLE. SO KUDOS TO CONGRESSMAN.

KUDOS TO DEPUTY MAYOR AND TO CITY MANAGER. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. YES, MAYOR. I BUZZ IN WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, NAILING IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES THAT COME UP WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND STUFF.

BUT WE WENT UP THERE IN TALLAHASSEE WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES AND MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN HAMMER. WE WERE LUCKY THAT I THINK WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD LOBBYIST AT THE STATE LEVEL,

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YOU'RE NOT. WE WERE LOBBYING FOR PALM BAY, BUT ALL THESE REPRESENTATIVES ARE INUNDATED WITH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES PEOPLE, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN LOBBYING FOR CITIES. SO WE NEED TO BE GOING UP.

WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, AND SPECIFICALLY FOR LOBBYING FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND OUR RESIDENTS AND BRINGING THIS STUFF BACK.

AND SO I THINK YOU'RE HITTING IT ON THE HEAD WE NEED TO HAVE AND I THINK WE DO.

WE HAVE SOME MONEY BUDGETED AND LEGISLATIVE, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE A SOP WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MANAGER OR OUR LOBBYIST SAYS, YOU KNOW, HEY, THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO GO.

IS SOMEBODY READY? AND THAT MONEY'S JUST ALREADY APPROVED AND SET ASIDE.

YOU KNOW, HOWEVER A LITTLE BIT IT IS IN A GIANT BUDGET OF OUR CITY AND WE CAN GO UP AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE FOR THE CITY.

AGREED, SIR. MISS. COUNCILMAN HAMMOND, HIM. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU GUYS AS WELL.

I DO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BE IN FRONT OF THEIR FACES.

I'VE BEEN UP THERE THREE TIMES MYSELF, AND EVERY SINGLE TIME I'VE BEEN UP THERE.

I AM BRINGING SOMETHING VALUABLE BACK TO OUR CITY.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S ALL THIS ALSO SHOWS IS EFFORT.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, THEY GO AROUND AND THEY JUST SEE WRITING ON PAPER.

WHEN THEY SEE YOU IN THEIR FACE AND YOU MAKING THAT EFFORT, WHEN THIS POPS UP, THEY'RE THINKING OF YOU.

IT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO BE SEEN AND TO BE VOCAL.

AND I THINK THAT HAS BEEN HUGE. I THINK OUR CONGRESSMAN, MIKE DOUGLAS, HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB IN REPRESENTING US.

LIKE YOU DID SAY YOU. HE PUT TWO THINGS ON FOR US.

AND I THINK YOU BEING UP THERE TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT FOR IT.

YOUR YOUR YOUR CARING AND YOUR EFFORT, I THINK, IS WHAT GOT US WHAT WE GOT THIS PAST WEEK.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. IF I CAN. SENATOR. SO THE MESSAGE THAT WE TOOK WITH US WHEN WE WENT THERE AND WE AND WE LEFT THE ALLEY BEHIND WAS, YOU KNOW, PALM BAY HAS THE SPACE FOR SPACE. AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE INDUSTRY IN PALM BAY.

WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE JOBS. WE'RE LOOKING TO CREATE THIS INDUSTRY WHERE, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ENOUGH BEDS AND HEADS. NOW WE NEED INDUSTRY. WE NEED JOBS. WE NEED PLACES FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO WORK AND NOT HAVE TO DRIVE TO, YOU KNOW, KENNEDY SPACE CENTER OR SPACE BLUE ORIGIN AN HOUR AWAY WHEN THEY LIVE IN PALM BAY.

AND THEN EVENTUALLY FROM THERE, YOU KNOW, RESTAURANTS WILL FOLLOW, HOTELS WILL FOLLOW, AMENITIES WILL FOLLOW.

AND YOU KNOW, DISCUSSIONS THAT I HAD WITH THESE DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IS, YOU KNOW, THE TARIFFS, THE TRUMP TARIFFS. WE HAVE THE SPACE FOR INDUSTRY.

AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SOME OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED AS WELL IS IS, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IN ADDITION TO NOT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY ZONES, AS WE HAVE THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE. SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO TO HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA, THEY COULD BUILD A BUILDING CHEAPER IN HUNTSVILLE, ALABAMA, THAN THEY CAN IN FLORIDA. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TOOLS IN OUR TOOLBOX.

YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE GET THIS INDUSTRY HERE? HOW HOW CAN WE KEEP INDUSTRIES FROM GOING TO TEXAS OR ALABAMA? AND WHY NOT PALM BAY? SO THE THE SPACE FOR SPACE IS SOMETHING THAT WE COINED.

AND THEN FEEL FREE TO USE IT. RIGHT. THAT, THAT THAT IS A GOOD POINT.

AND TO THAT ARGUMENT, ALSO YOU HAD A ONE PAGER THAT JUST IDENTIFIED.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE STAFF THAT THAT OPPORTUNITY TO AND KUDOS BECAUSE THEY WENT UP THERE REALLY, REALLY PREPARED, REALLY EQUIPPED. AND IF, IF YOU KNOW ABOUT DEALING WITH STAFFERS, WHETHER YOU'RE DEALING WITH STATE STAFFERS OR FEDERAL STAFFERS, YOU PUT SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THEM LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO THE STAFFERS ARE GOING TO REMEMBER THAT, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GO TO THAT.

SO I WANTED TO COMMEND OUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR BRINGING UP THAT ONE PAGER.

GO AHEAD SIR. I JUST WANTED TO THANK STAFF FOR THAT. SO SUNDAY NIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT EVEN 24 HOURS. WE FOUND OUT WE NEED TO GO.

I DID A CRAZY SKETCH ON A NAPKIN. WHAT WE NEEDED, WHAT? I THOUGHT WE NEEDED THEM WITHIN THREE DAYS. OR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, OUR TEAM, OUR CITY STAFF TEAM. AND GEORGE WENT TO GO GET THEM BECAUSE I FORGOT TO BRING THEM ON TO GIVE YOU EACH ONE, EVEN THOUGH I SENT YOU AN EMAIL. OUR AMAZING STAFF PUT IT TOGETHER IN THREE DAYS. ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE. SO I'M JUST GRATEFUL TO STAFF AND AND.

YEAH, WHO DESIGNED IT, SIR? SO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DID IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH JUST A BUNCH OF PEOPLE JUMPING IN ON THE TEAM.

I THINK DANIELLE CROSS TOOK POINT. BUT MIGHT IN THE PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE WAS THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER.

THERE'S ONE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN MY REPORT, I'VE BEEN THROWING A TON OF STAFF, BUT WITH ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

BUT MAN HAVE BEEN BEEN JUST PRODUCING LEFT AND RIGHT ON ALL OF OUR THINGS, AND I'M BRINGING SOME FOR THE PUBLIC CASE. I WANT TO SEE HIM, SO I'LL STAND.

WAY TO GO, YOUNG MAN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYWAY, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD.

YEAH. BILL BATTEN. WE MAY NOT REMEMBER. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN

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ON TOPIC NUMBER ONE WAS WHAT WAS THE TOPIC FOR THE FLY IN? I DIDN'T BECAUSE WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THE PACKET I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT. AND THAT'S YOU KNOW, WHY AM I SPENDING THE MONEY.

RIGHT. BUT NOW I KNOW FANTASTIC REASON TO TRAVEL AND AND MAYBE SOMETHING GREAT FOR THE CITY WILL COME OUT, EVEN THOUGH. THAT'S RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD. AND I ENJOYED THE NATURE MORE THAN THE BUSINESS.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THE CITY. DON'T GET ME WRONG.

OKAY. THE NEXT ONE WAS. I'M ADDRESSING THE PROCESS.

WHEN WE HAVE TRAVEL, WE REQUEST A TRAVEL. COME TO CITY COUNCIL.

THAT'S YOU? WELL, IT WAS VOTED THE MONTH OF JUNE.

THERE IS NO CITY COUNCIL. SO I'M THINKING, WELL, GEE, IF THERE'S NO CITY COUNCIL IN THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE'RE SHUT DOWN, THEN THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE NO BUSINESS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY I LOOK AT IT.

YOU KNOW, THE MILITARY DOESN'T SAY, WELL, WE TAKE THE MONTH OF JUNE OFF BECAUSE THEY DO THAT IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY WAS THE THAT WAS THE ARGUMENT THAT WAS PRESENTED TO THE CITIZENS OF PALM BAY.

WELL, OTHER GOVERNMENT FORMS TAKE THE MONTH OF JUNE OFF, SO WE SHOULD TAKE IT OFF TOO.

AND IT WAS GRANTED. SO I'M THINKING, WELL, ANY BUSINESS THAT COMES IN THE MONTH OF JUNE NEEDS TO WAIT.

JUST COME BACK WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED, RIGHT? BUT I CAN'T CHANGE THAT.

THAT'S WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE NOW. BUT THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.

AND I THINK MY GOVERNMENT SHOULD MEET YEAR ROUND ON ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THIS IS PETTY, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT THEN I'M A PETTY PERSON.

IT WAS THE VILLAGE OF $97 FOR MILEAGE. AND I WAS GONNA SAY, DID YOU DRIVE TO TO DC OR WHAT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. I'M ASSUMING THAT YOU EITHER DROVE TO ORLANDO TO MEET THE PLANE OR WHAT, BUT I'M JUST PICKING ON THE $97 FOR TRAVEL. RIGHT.

ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT YOU ASK THE CITIZENS TO GIVE COUNCIL A PAY RAISE.

AND THE CITIZENS VOTED NO PAY RAISE. SO WHAT HAPPENED THEN? THE COUNCIL VOTED THEMSELF AN INCREASE IN THEIR EXPENSE ACCOUNT AND EXPENSE ACCOUNT.

THAT SO YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF YOUR PERSONAL BUSINESSES AT NO EXPENSE OF YOUR PERSONAL POCKETBOOK.

AND THAT EXPENSE ACCOUNT IS $400 A MONTH. SO YOU SEE WHERE WE'RE SEEING THIS THING OF? I WANT MY EXPENSE ACCOUNT. BUT NOW I WANT YOU TO REIMBURSE ME FOR USING MY EXPENSE ACCOUNT SO I CAN USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

I KNOW THIS IS VERY PETTY, BUT THAT'S THE TYPE OF PERSON I AM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

BUT THE REASON FOR THE TRAVEL? FANTASTIC. YOUR RESULTS FANTASTIC AND IS GOING TO BENEFIT YOU FOR THAT PORTION.

BUT IF I DIDN'T CALL YOU OUT ON IT, I WOULD BE DOING IT.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, MAYOR. OKAY, WELL, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED.

SECOND, THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAM.

ALL IN FAVOR? OH, YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO GIVE HIM A HARD TIME.

I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT, I MEAN, I'M OKAY IF YOU GUYS.

YOU TALK TO $97, IT WOULD BE OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. BUT TO TO COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION.

MISTER MORTON AND TERRY WE WE WOULD WANT TO HAVE THAT PART OF SOP IF AN OPPORTUNITY CAME THAT IT'D BE READILY AVAILABLE TO TO EXECUTE.

BECAUSE TIMING IS OF THE ESSENCE AS IT WAS PROVEN.

NUMBER ITEM NUMBER SIX. MISS LEFFLER, COUNCIL CAN CONSENSUS IS REQUESTED FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS INTERESTED IN ATTENDING THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES 2025 ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN ORLANDO. THIS IS FROM AUGUST 14TH OR 16TH.

AND ALSO, THERE IS A MOTION FROM COUNCIL REQUESTED TO APPOINT A VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE CONFERENCE.

I, I WILL BE THERE. I'LL BE GETTING IN THERE THE EVENING OF THE 14TH.

SO, IS ANYONE ELSE GOING? YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND AND POINT YOU THE VOTING DELEGATE.

SO MOVE. I MEAN SECOND. YEAH. SECOND. THAT AS WELL.

GOT A MOTION? WELL, NO, WE GOT SPEAKER CARDS.

YES. NOT ON SIX, SIR. OKAY, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OKAY, WE'RE GOING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MR.

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THIS PARTICULAR AGREEMENT IS REQUESTING THREE CURRENTLY SROS WITH AN ADDITIONAL NUMBER THAT COULD INCREASE.

THE MOU COMMITS A REIMBURSEMENT OF $74,500 PER SRO TO THE CITY, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF $2,500 COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.

THAT'S A REIMBURSEMENT COST OF 223. THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE IN SALARIES ANYWAY FOR THE DELTA BETWEEN THE 223 AND THE 352, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN AGAIN, BUT I THINK IT WAS IN THE ONE 20S RANGE.

WAS IT HERE? 141 THAT'S THE TOTAL. THAT'S THE SALARY COST.

YES. I'M STARTING WITH THE DELTA HERE IN THE THIS NUMBER.

OH, THERE IT IS. WE DID WRITE IT DOWN. NO, THANK YOU, SIR, WE DID DO THE MATH. 74,001, 4272.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE THE CHIEF HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.

OKAY. COUNCIL COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YEP. CHIEF.

SO WHILE YOU'RE WALKING UP. SO LAST YEAR, I WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT THIS, AND I REMEMBER YOU SAID Y'ALL KIND OF BASED IT OFF OF THE SHERIFF AND THEIR NEGOTIATIONS, BUT THAT YOU AND ALL THE POLICE CHIEFS GOING TO INTO CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SHERIFF TO TRY TO NEGOTIATE HIGHER OR SEE WHERE YOU ARE FOR THE UPCOMING.

YOU REMEMBER KIND OF THAT. SO. SO EVERY YEAR WE MEET WITH THE SHERIFF, ALL THE CHIEFS IN THE COUNTY ALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND HE BREAKS DOWN WHAT THE ARRANGEMENT WOULD BE, WHAT TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF GOING BACK AND NEGOTIATING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

AND SO EVERY YEAR IT DOES INCREASE. IT'S REALLY EVEN THOUGH THE MUNICIPALITIES IT'S AN ANNUAL PROCESS FOR Y'ALL TO APPROVE IT EVERY YEAR.

IT'S ACTUALLY A THREE YEAR AGREEMENT. SO NEXT YEAR THAT PRICE IS GOING TO GO UP AS WELL.

SO THE PRICE THAT THE SCHOOLS WILL BE PAYING OR THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL BE PAYING WILL INCREASE NEXT YEAR TO I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 77 OR $78,000.

SO AND IT'S IT'S A COST TO BOARD. SO EVERY MUNICIPALITY, EVERY CITY IN BREVARD COUNTY IT'S THE SAME CONTRACT.

SO THOSE SCHOOLS AND OTHER CITIES, THEY'RE PAYING THE SAME THING 74 FIVE.

SO IT'S NOT JUST PALM BAY'S. IT'S NOT AN AGREEMENT.

IT'S EVERYBODY'S AGREEMENT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. SO YES, THE SHERIFF GOES AND NEGOTIATES ON BEHALF OF THE REST OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

OKAY. NEXT QUESTION. THESE THREE SROS, DO THEY DO ANYTHING WORKING FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY RESIDENTS, OR IS IT ALL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SCHOOLS? OKAY, SO LET ME ASK THE INTENT BEHIND THE QUESTION.

FIRST, IF THEY'RE ONLY OBLIGATED TO THE SCHOOLS AND NOTHING WITH THE RESIDENTS, THEN I FEEL LIKE THE SCHOOL SHOULD PAY.

OH I GOTCHA. OKAY. SO YEAH. SO DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR YES.

THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO THEIR THEIR ASSIGNED SCHOOL. RIGHT ON VACATION.

CHRISTMAS BREAK, HOLIDAY BREAKS WHENEVER THE SCHOOLS ARE OFF.

THE OFFICERS COME BACK TO US. OKAY. AND THEY'RE WORKING.

THEY GO TO THE YOUTH SERVICES UNIT. THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO OUR YOUTH SERVICES UNIT, WHICH FALLS UNDER OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES DIVISION.

SO OUR YOUTH SERVICES UNIT, THEY'RE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY INTERACTING WITH THEIR YOUTH, DOING YOUTH ENFORCEMENT, IF NEED BE, BUT ALSO PICKING UP OVERTIME, ASSISTANT OVERTIME, ASSISTING VACANCIES WHERE WE HAVE OR STAFFING SHORTAGES WHERE WE HAVE ON PATROL AS WELL.

OKAY. AND EVEN ON SUMMER BREAKS, IF THEY'RE NOT ASSIGNED TO THE SCHOOLS FOR SUMMER SCHOOL AND THEY'RE BACK, THOSE SCHOOLS AREN'T DESIGNATED FOR SUMMER SCHOOL. THEY COME BACK TO TO US AND ASSIGN BACK TO THE CITY. OKAY. I WAS JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH WITH OUR PROPERTY TAXES, THE MAJORITY OF IT GOES TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.

SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S BALANCING OUT IN REGARDS TO THE SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING AS WELL AS THE THE MONEY WE'RE PROVIDING TO.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, CHIEF.

DEPUTY MAYOR. YEAH, I'VE BEEN WAITING TO ASK THIS QUESTION SINCE I CAMPAIGNED LAST YEAR.

I REMEMBER THIS BEING A DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING WHERE IT WAS VOTED ON AND APPROVED.

WHO'S RESPONSIBLE TO PROTECT THE STUDENTS IS THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS A CITY OF PALM BAY POLICE.

CITY OF PALM BAY. THROUGH THROUGH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THOUGH, THEY ANSWER TO US WITH REGARDS TO ENFORCEMENT.

WHAT I'M SAYING ARE WE ARE WE FORCED TO PROVIDE SROS.

IS THERE OTHER, OTHER AVENUES FOR SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE THEIR PROTECTION TO THEIR SCHOOLS? SO THE SCHOOL BOARD IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE PROTECTION.

THEY ENGAGE PALM BAY TO PROTECT THE STUDENTS, BUT ULTIMATELY THE SCHOOL BOARD, THEY DO HELP.

THERE ARE OTHER LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE 11 OTHER PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE CITY THAT DO NOT HAVE AN SRO RIGHT THERE.

I BELIEVE THAT THE GUARDIANS ARE THE SPECIALISTS THAT THAT WORK FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE. SO THE OTHER 72,000 THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD, YOU KNOW, PROVIDES TOWARDS THE SALARY OF THE OFFICER.

HOW MUCH IS THE DELTA DIFFERENCE THAT THE TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY ARE PAYING FOR THAT OFFICER IN THAT SCHOOL?

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BECAUSE HE'S SINGLE OFFICER. OH, I BELIEVE HE JUST GOT MARRIED NOT TOO LONG AGO.

AND THEREFORE, UP UNTIL THAT, DIDN'T REALLY NEED TO PAY ADDITIONAL FOR SALARY FOR BENEFITS AND WAS COVERED.

SO THE DIFFERENCES WILL BE DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE THREE BASED ON THEIR TIME AND GRADE AND WHAT THEIR SALARY IS THAT WE, WE PUT IN FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE FTE POSITION EVERY YEAR.

SO TO GO BACK TO THE RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ENFORCEMENT, THEY ARE REQUIRED AND RESPONSIBLE FOR.

CORRECT. SO FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, THE SRO POSITION THAT WE'VE ALWAYS OUTFITTED FOR THESE SCHOOLS, FOR THE THREE SCHOOLS, NOT FOR SCHOOL, COUNTING THE CHARTER HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WAS A, I BELIEVE, A NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO FOR US, BECAUSE THEY DO TAKE A LOT TO GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN JOHNSON'S TALKING POINT.

THEY DO TAKE A LOT OFF OF OUR PATROL OFFICERS.

SO WE DON'T REALLY RESPOND TO THE SCHOOLS TO HANDLE CALLS FOR SERVICE WITHIN THE SCHOOL UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT.

RIGHT. OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER TAKES THOSE REPORTS SO THAT IT ALLEVIATES OUR PATROL OFFICERS TO BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, AS OPPOSED TO GOING TO THE SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME. SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM IN THE HIGH SCHOOLS AND JUNIOR AND SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH THAT EVERY DAY, GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH SCHOOL. SO THEY DO A LOT IN THERE. THAT DOES TAKE A LOAD OFF OF OUR PATROL OFFICERS THAT CAN FOCUS INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL. BUT IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENCE, IT'S DIFFERENT FOR EACH EMPLOYEE BASED ON WHAT THE DELTA IS, BASED ON THEIR TIME AND GRADE AND WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR THEIR POSITION EVERY YEAR, AND WHICH PERSON IS IN THAT POSITION DURING THE TIME WE ASSIGN THEM.

SO I MEAN, TO ONBOARD A NEW A NEW OFFICER AT ABOUT $215,000 IS CORRECT FOR JUST THE JUST THAT ONE OFFICER.

AND POTENTIALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING THREE OFFICERS, UP TO 14 OFFICERS THAT COULD BE PATROLLING THE CITY.

SO I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM AND THE WAY IT'S SET UP FINANCIALLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I DO AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

WELL, WE WOULD ALWAYS WANT THEM TO COVER MORE.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW BECAUSE THEY ARE. WHAT IS IT, SIX MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR OR LONGER? HOWEVER IT IS, DEPENDING IF IT'S SUMMER SCHOOL. YOU KNOW THAT OFFICER OR THAT EMPLOYEE IS.

THEY'RE DEDICATED. THE BENEFITS TO THAT IS WE ARE BRIDGING THAT GAP BETWEEN US AND THE YOUTH IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUR AND OUR YOUNGER CITIZENS IN THE CITY. AND WITH REGARDS TO ENGAGEMENT. SO THAT IN AND OF ITSELF, TO ME, PAYS OFF.

OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE SEEN THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE BUILT WITH THEM, WITH OUR SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE INITIATED WITH THEM OVER THE YEARS. SO COMMUNITY POLICING. CORRECT. SO IT DOES HELP.

AND THEY DO FALL UNDER THAT DIVISION WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS COMMUNITY SERVICES. SO YOU KNOW, THE OTHER 14 THAT'S ON THAT CONTRACT, THAT'S IF WE WENT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT SROS IN THERE, RIGHT? THEY WOULD IF THE FUNDING IS THERE, IT WOULD BE THE SAME AGREEMENT, THE 74 OVER FIVE THAT THEY WOULD COVER TOWARDS THAT SALARY.

BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT.

YOU KNOW, AT LEAST UNDER MY ADMINISTRATION. BUT YEAH, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I'LL SEE IF THEY GET THE 1% SALES TAX, THE LOTTERY MONEY, THE HIGHEST MILITARY. NO, I GET IT. THE HIGHEST IMPACT FEES.

YEAH. I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK OUT 100% FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

UNDERSTOOD. I'LL YIELD TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS HERE.

COUNCILMAN LANGMAN. YEAH, AND I SHARE SOME OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS.

I'M OBVIOUSLY PRO RESOURCE OFFICER. ACTUALLY, MY DAD WAS A RESOURCE OFFICER AT ONE POINT GROWING UP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT YOU AND I. BUT I WANT TO BRING IT UP WITH THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

IS SO I DID. I'VE DONE A FEW TIE TOGETHERS. I THINK YOU'VE DONE SOME COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

SO IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU GO INTO THE SCHOOL, THEY DO THEM IN A LOT OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOLS IS A PHENOMENAL PROGRAM.

AND YOU TEACH THE YOUNG MEN HOW TO TIE, TIE AND SHAKE A HAND.

AND ONE THING I NOTICED IN SOME OF OUR LOCAL PALM BAY SCHOOLS IS I GO IN AND I KNOW WHAT THE DISTRICT POLICY IS, AND I SEE STUDENTS WALKING AROUND WITH HEADPHONES IN AND WITH HOODIES ON AND NOT FOLLOWING SOME OF OUR DISTRICT POLICIES.

AND SO I STARTED ASKING AROUND SOME OF THE TEACHERS. I'M LIKE, WHAT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED. AND YOU GOT TEACHERS AND THEY'RE JUST NOT SAYING ANYTHING. AND THERE WAS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN FROM THE TEACHERS THAT AFTER THAT STUDENT BEAT A TEACHER UP IN FLAGLER COUNTY, OUR TEACHERS ARE CONCERNED WITH ENFORCING SOME OF THESE DISTRICT POLICIES.

WELL, THEN I SAID, WELL, OKAY, BUT YOU GOT A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER.

AND I SAW A GUARDIAN THERE, TOO. SO I THINK THERE WAS BOTH FROM WHAT I SAW THAT DAY.

AND THEN AFTER TALKING TO CHIEF ABOUT IT, OUR RESOURCE OFFICERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ADDRESS DISTRICT POLICY.

THEY CAN ONLY ENFORCE THE LAW. SO OUR RESOURCE, OUR TEACHERS ARE AFRAID TO ENFORCE THE POLICY,

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THAT'S AGAINST DISTRICT POLICY. SO THERE'S NO MECHANISM IN THE SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW IN OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS TO TO ENFORCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER RULES AND TEACH THE APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR SO THAT WHEN THESE KIDS GRADUATE AND GO INTO OUR SOCIETY, THEY'RE READY TO GO. INSTEAD, THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT THAT THERE'S ESSENTIALLY NO RULES.

AND NOW OUR POLICE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK OVERTIME WHEN THESE KIDS GRADUATE.

AND SO IT'S PROBABLY A LOT BETTER THEY'RE ABLE TO NIP IT IN THE BUD. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME COMMUNICATION.

AND I PLAN ON REACHING OUT PERSONALLY TO TO SOME OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE WORTH DOING MAYBE A RESOLUTION AS A COUNCIL SAYING, IF WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS, THEY NEED TO BE DOING BEING USED TO THEIR MAXIMUM POTENTIAL.

AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, STANDING AROUND UNTIL A CRIME HAPPENS, BUT BEING ABLE TO BE PROACTIVE IN THOSE SCHOOLS AND MAYBE PREVENT CRIMES FROM HAPPENING BY HELPING THOSE TEACHERS OR YOU GET YOUR TEACHERS TO ACTUALLY ENFORCE THE ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY, ONE OF YOUR ONE OR THE OTHER. BUT IF THEY'RE GOING TO GRADUATE AND COMMIT CRIMES BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SCHOOLS, THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO THAT'S KIND OF MY CONCERN RIGHT NOW WITH THE RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM.

BUT I DO ALSO SHARE SOME OF THE FINANCIAL CONCERNS OF VICE MAYOR JAFFE.

WELL, I COMMENT ON THIS. THE VERY FIRST THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS ULTIMATELY THE LIVES OF THOSE CHILDREN.

THE RESPONSIBILITY IS WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE OUR TRAINED OFFICERS PROTECT OUR CHILDREN.

ULTIMATELY, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. COULD YOU IMAGINE SOMETHING JUMPS OFF IN THAT SCHOOL, AND WE DON'T HAVE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL THERE? OR BECAUSE OF WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. DISCIPLINE ISSUES.

DISCIPLINE ISSUES ARE THE SCHOOL BOARDS. THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE.

PROTECTING THE LIVES OF THESE CHILDREN IS WHAT'S PARAMOUNT.

THAT'S THE VERY FIRST THING. SECONDLY, I HAVE SEEN WHERE COMMUNITY POLICING IS CRUCIAL FOR OUR CHILDREN.

WE NEED THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS ARE THERE TO PROTECT US.

RIGHT. WE DON'T WANT TO SEND THE WRONG MESSAGE.

EVER. I BELIEVE IN THE COMMUNITY POLICING IDEOLOGY AND AND SO MUCH SO THAT I SUPPORTED FROSTY FIVE ZERO, WHICH IS AN ICE CREAM TRUCK THAT PD HAS. AND SO THAT'S CRUCIAL TO ME GENTLEMEN, AND I UNDERSTAND, COULD YOU IMAGINE SOMETHING JUMPING OFF? AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU GUYS WEIGH IN.

AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS THE CONTRACT, THEN EITHER YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, OR YOU COUNCILMAN LARGE EVENT START NEGOTIATING, BE PART OF THE TASK FORCE FOR THEY NEGOTIATE WHEN THE SHERIFF GOES IN TO NEGOTIATE THESE CONTRACTS. BUT WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW IS A SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM THAT I THINK IS SUCCESSFUL.

I TRULY BELIEVE THEY HAVE IN THESE INDIVIDUALS, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR YOUTH IS CRITICAL NOT ONLY TODAY, BUT YEARS DOWNRANGE. I'VE SEEN IT, I KNOW THAT IT WORKS.

ESPECIALLY WHEN KIDS GET OLDER AND THEY GET IN TROUBLE, THEY'LL THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL.

THEY'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL.

I DON'T WANT TO SEVER THAT TIE. I DON'T WANT TO SPLIT THAT DIVIDE.

SO NEXT UP WAS COUNCILMAN HAMMER AND THEN COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

IN THAT ORDER, I WAS GOING TO ASK, HOW HAS THIS HOW HAS THE SRO PROGRAM AFFECTED THE THE INVESTIGATIONS, I WOULD SAY, OF YOUTH SERVICES. SO SAY THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY.

DOES THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS SRO GIVE GUIDANCE TO INVESTIGATIONS THAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IN AREAS WHERE.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THAT IS THAT'S SOMETHING I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DISCUSSING THIS YEARS AND YEARS AGO.

THIS WAS LITERALLY A MECHANISM. AND IT'S NOT JUST TO SOLVE, BUT IT'S TO PREVENT.

AND IT AND IT STILL IS. SO AND THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT'S A GREAT POINT THAT YOU'RE BRINGING UP, IS BECAUSE WE DO UTILIZE THEM IN THAT FASHION.

FOR THOSE INVESTIGATIONS AND NOT EVEN JUST INVESTIGATIONS WHEN WE HAVE KIDS.

NO MATTER WHAT, WHAT SCHOOL YOU KNOW, WHAT GRADE, WHETHER IT'S HIGH SCHOOL OR MIDDLE SCHOOL, WE HAVE THE SROS, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY GO MISSING, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE ENDANGERED OR LABELED ENDANGERED. OUR SRO HAS COME IN AND, AND, AND ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH VITAL INTEL FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOCATE THEM AS WELL.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT POINT. AND WE UTILIZE THEM FOR THAT.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I DO LOVE ABOUT THIS IS IF SOMEBODY IS HAVING PROBLEMS AT HOME WITH ANYTHING, A CHILD AT HOME, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR THAT CHILD TO SAY SOMETHING WITH NOBODY AROUND TO AN SRO THAT'S IN THE SCHOOL.

AND I HAVE SEEN THAT ON A LOT OF A LOT OF OCCASIONS, THAT SRO BECOMES A PART OF THAT SCHOOL,

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WHEN THINGS. WHEN THEY'RE AFRAID TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.

SO I DO APPROVE OF THAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, YOU NEXT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. TWO POINTS TO COUNCILMAN. AND TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR.

THAT'S ON THE SCHOOL, TOO. THAT'S ON THE SCHOOL TO UPHOLD THEIR THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS.

I'VE BEEN TO A LOT OF THESE HIGH SCHOOLS AND THESE MIDDLE SCHOOLS, AND THEY HAVE DEANS FOR A REASON.

BUT TOO OFTEN, THESE DEANS ARE TRYING TO BE THESE KIDS FRIENDS MORE THAN THEY'RE TRYING TO BE ACCOUNTABILITY PARTNERS.

I'VE SEEN IT WHERE I'M VISITING, LIKE YOU SAID, FOR TIE TOGETHER, I'M PROVIDING MORE DISCIPLINE THAN SOME OF THE DEANS, AND YOU'RE GETTING PAID. I'M JUST HERE TO VOLUNTEER AND JUST TRY TO SHED SOME LIGHT, BUT SO THAT'S THE FIRST THING I'M WITH YOU ON THAT, MAYOR. SECOND THING, I'M ALSO WITH YOU IN REGARDS TO HAVING DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE OR COUNCILMAN LANGMAN OR MYSELF KIND OF TAG TEAM.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADVOCATING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.

I LOVE SHERIFF IVEY, BUT HE'S NOW REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PALM BAY IN REGARDS TO THIS, SINCE HE'S KIND OF IN THE ROOM WITH IT FOR EVERYBODY'S BEHALF.

LIKE, COME ON, GUYS, LET'S RAISE IT UP. BUT WE IF WE GET ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THERE WITH YOU, LIKE, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

JUST LIKE HOW YOU WENT UP TO D.C.. I THINK THAT MAY HOLD A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT ON THERE.

SO THAT'S JUST MY MY LITTLE $0.02, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD WANT TO GO IN THERE.

BUT JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THE THE RENEWAL OR THE NEW CONTRACT COMING UP NEXT YEAR, THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND MOVING FORWARD AS WELL. YOU KNOW, AFTER AFTER THIS EVENING, I'LL REACH OUT TO TO SHERIFF IVEY AND AND EXPRESS THOSE POINTS AND CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE HERE AS A CITY AND AS DEPUTY MAYOR AND YOURSELF AND SEVERAL OTHERS HERE IN DISCUSSION.

AND THEN I'LL DEFINITELY REPORT BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER MORTON AND GET BACK TO YOU GUYS AS WELL WITH IT, SO THAT THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

COUNCILMAN LANGMAN YEAH. SO TWO POINTS FIRST.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, MAYOR. AND YOU JUST TRUST THAT YOU'LL BRING THAT UP.

SO WE'RE GOOD. BUT I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I'M GOING TO VOTE OBVIOUSLY FOR THIS TONIGHT.

I JUST THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND ASKING QUESTIONS. AND THEN BASICALLY IT IS THE SCHOOL'S JOB TO ENFORCE THEIR DISCIPLINE POLICY, BUT ANY ANYBODY THAT THEY'RE PAYING TO BE IN THE SCHOOL SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY IF SOMEBODY WALKS BY THEM, SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU SHOULDN'T BE CURSING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HEAR IT, IF THEY SEE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR FACE, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TO JUST BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, HEY, BUT WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT HOODIE OFF. AND FOR MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT AT ALL.

SO EVEN IF THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH THE HALLWAYS AND THEY JUST SEE IT, WELL, THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE DISTRICT, SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO IT. IS THAT IS THAT HOW YOU UNDERSTAND IT? CORRECT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUR FOLKS THEY DO OKAY IN THAT.

SO I WILL BECAUSE I, I'VE WITNESSED IT MYSELF WHEN I'M GOING THROUGH THE SCHOOLS AND, AND WALKING AROUND WITH THEM SO THEY, THEY DO CHECK THEM. YOU KNOW, SO WHICH IS A GOOD THING AND, AND THERE'S THAT RESPECT FACTOR, RIGHT. THAT, THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT THAT BILL.

JUST LIKE. YEAH. YEAH. MY APOLOGIES, OFFICER FALLON.

SO I MEAN, ESPECIALLY WHEN THAT SRO HAS BEEN THERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY BUILD THAT CONNECTION. YEAH. I DON'T WANT TO BE CLEAR, TOO, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT I KNOW THAT OUR SROS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, AND I HAVE NO, NO PROBLEM WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND I JUST WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO DO THE MAXIMUM OF THEIR POTENTIAL.

AND THEN IF THERE IS A PROBLEM IN THE SCHOOLS, THOUGH, IN OUR SCHOOLS, IN OUR COMMUNITY, WHERE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE MAYBE THE TEACHERS AREN'T DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO OR THE DEANS AREN'T DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO. IT MAY BE WORTH LOOKING INTO AND POSSIBLY ASKING THE SCHOOL BOARD TO BE, HEY, YOU NEED TO BUCKLE THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE STILL OUR PALM BAY RESIDENTS, AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO GO OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY AFTER THEY GET OUT OF SCHOOL. BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.

MAYOR. AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO BEING MORE INVOLVED, MORE ENGAGED, AND, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR DISCIPLINE ISSUE. I KNOW THAT CHAIRMAN, BACK THEN, MATT, SUSAN BROUGHT IN A HUGE INITIATIVE OF DISCIPLINE THAT WASN'T BEING DONE BEFORE. SO PERHAPS A PHONE CALL TO HIM AND SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? THIS IS WHAT I WITNESSED AT THIS SCHOOL.

BECAUSE HE DOES BRING THE HAMMER DOWN. I'VE SEEN I VISUALLY HAVE SEEN THAT THAT DISCIPLINE ASPECT TO IT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HIM AS A, AS A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD CAN, YOU KNOW, HONE IN ON, MUCH LIKE THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IF WE HONED IN ON SOMETHING IN PALM BAY. SO I WOULD DEFINITELY OPEN UP THE DIALOGS WITH THAT.

I ALSO, I, I DO AGREE THAT MAN. AND THANK YOU, CHIEF.

GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE SHERIFF AND AND THAT COMPONENT, I GUESS WE COULD START A TASK FORCE.

YOU COULD ARM WRESTLE COUNCILMAN LANGHAM AND DEPUTY MAYOR TO SEE WHICH ONE WANTS TO SIT ON THAT WAY.

ALL OF THAT. BUT I DIGRESS. BUT WHAT? WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS THIS IS COLLABORATION,

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IT'S AN INTANGIBLE THAT YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON.

RIGHT. PROTECTING THAT LIFE IS CRUCIAL. WE WOULD NEVER WANT TO TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND NOT HAVE SOMEONE RIGHT THERE TO REACT AND PROTECT OUR CHILDREN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

DID YOU. IS THERE A SPEAKER CARD? NO, MA'AM. OKAY, SO I NEED A MOTION.

SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

I'LL SECOND IT. SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN. YEAH. MEREDITH. REAL QUICK. I, YOU KNOW, DEATH BY A THOUSAND TINY CUTS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S ALL I'M LOOKING AT WITH THE CITY. WE'VE HAD A THOUSAND CUTS OVER THE YEARS.

SO JUST LOOKING FOR FAIR DEALS FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD.

WE'VE HAD BAD DEALS WITH ROADS IN THE COUNTY.

WE'VE HAD BAD DEALS WITH PARK REFERENDUMS IN THE COUNTY.

AND YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY, THIS THIS IS A BAD DEAL WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS.

NEXT YEAR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS, IF I DON'T SEE A CHANGE, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT THIS.

SO JUST A HEADS UP. BUT WITH THAT, I'LL. IN MY DISCUSSION.

OKAY. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE, AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. SAME AGREEMENT.

ONLY THIS TIME IS CONSIDERATION OF SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICER PROGRAM.

AGREEMENT WITH ODYSSEY CHARTER SCHOOL FOR THE SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL 2526 YEAR.

THE MATH ESSENTIALLY WORKS OUT THE SAME WITH A REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT FOR 70,000 74,000, EXCUSE ME, $500, WHICH FOLLOWS THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH BREVARD SCHOOLS IN TERMS OF THE FINANCIAL REIMBURSEMENT.

AND WE DO HAVE THE CHIEF HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS. ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO, MAYOR. OKAY. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. I'LL SECOND IT.

GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BENJAMIN.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

YES, MAYOR. CONSENSUS IS REQUESTED TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP ON THURSDAY JULY 10TH AT 6 P.M.

NINE. ITEM NUMBER NINE. I'M SORRY. CARRY ON. THE.

YES, MA'AM. IT'S FOR THURSDAY, JULY 10TH AT 6 P.M..

THIS IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 25 MID-YEAR REVIEW AND PROPOSED BUDGET DATA FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.

SO JULY 1ST DATE 10TH 10TH, 10TH THURSDAY, NEXT THURSDAY.

OKAY. I'LL BE REMOTE. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO? I'M AVAILABLE.

I'M AVAILABLE. I THOUGHT WE WERE ALL AVAILABLE.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO. YES, MA'AM. WE WILL BE HERE.

THANK YOU. AND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON WILL BE REMOTE.

HE HAD A DIFFICULT CHANGE IN HIS SCHEDULE. CORRECT.

I CAN GUARANTEE I'LL HAVE A LIST OF QUESTIONS, THOUGH, SO I'LL BE HERE.

I WILL BE HERE IN SPIRIT. ITEM NUMBER TEN. MISS SMITH.

ORDINANCE 2025. THAT'S 26. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA.

AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE FIVE, LEGISLATIVE CHAPTER 51 PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND CHAPTER 59 QUASI JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS BY REMOVING PROVISIONS RELATED TO PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLOTS PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTES PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.

HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE.

PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM.

MISTER MORTON. THANK YOU MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL.

MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS THE COMPANION ORDINANCE TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU JUST PASSED. STAFF IS HERE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ON THIS ITEM.

COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T SEE ANY CARDS.

OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN, FOLLOWED BY RUTH CAULFIELD.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I COULD JUST GO OVER THE SAME RATIONALES THAT I GAVE UNDER PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER FIVE, BUT THAT WOULD KIND OF DEFEAT THE TIMING AND PURPOSE, BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BEEN PASSED. AND THIS IS JUST WRITING OF THE ORDINANCES, BUT IT DOES BRING UP A COUPLE OF STATEMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO KEEP IN CONSIDERATION, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT SOMEHOW THE CITIZENS GET TO BE INVOLVED SOMEHOW.

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AND I'M GOING BACK FOR UNDER THE GENERAL PROVISIONS.

77172.010 GENERAL PROVISIONS. AND IT GIVES YOU THAT NICE LITTLE GRAPH OF EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE.

AND IT SHOWS YOU WHERE THE TWO CHANGES ARE GOING TO BE.

THEY SAID, WELL, THERE WILL BE OTHER GRAPH. THERE WILL BE OTHER PLANS AND PRESENTATIONS PRESENTED.

THE ONLY TIME AN INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO, WHAT'S ACTUALLY COMING IN BEHIND THEM OR BESIDE THEM IS IF IT'S A PUD PRELIMINARY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT'S WHERE THERE WOULD BE PROCESSED IN CONJUNCTION WITH REZONING.

THERE'S NO REZONING THAT WON'T HAPPEN. THEY WON'T GET A SEAT OR THE OTHER ONE WAS PUD.

FINAL PUD FINAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN. RIGHT. AND THAT WOULD BE PROCESSED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAN.

SO THEY'RE DOING ALL THE LEGWORK AND EVERYTHING ELSE UNDER TWO OTHER TITLES OF WHAT THEY'RE CALLED.

SO THAT'S WHEN YOU CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO US AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE RESIDENTS.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO SEE IT DISAPPEAR, BECAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT RESIDENTS GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I'LL GO OUT ON MY WAY TO FIND THE INFORMATION OUT, BUT THAT'S JUST BILL BATTEN.

THE AVERAGE RESIDENT WON'T DO THAT, BUT THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S PRESENTED TO THEM WITH THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE DEVELOPER.

THERE'S GOT TO BE A MECHANISM BY WHICH THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

RUTH. RUTH CAULFIELD, 935 DOUGLAS STREET, SOUTHEAST.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO REITERATE TO THE ATTORNEY THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE COMPARED TO BOTH OF THE BILLS.

IT'S NOT JUST A TYPO CHANGE. THERE ARE DIFFERENCES.

SO YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CORRECT.

SO THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS IT'S NOT H BILL.

HB 381 IT IS. SENATE BILL 784. SO THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CORRECT AND THERE MUST BE SOME WAY TO INCLUDE OUR CITIZENS IN EVERYTHING, BECAUSE IF WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR VERY LARGE PROJECTS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW THAT EVERYBODY WHO OWNS PROPERTY AROUND THOSE ENTITIES NEEDS TO BE HAVE A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS OUT THERE.

SO ALL THESE PROJECTS, PLUS THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO VERIFY THAT THESE TRAFFIC STUDIES ARE BEING DONE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING DONE.

NOW, IF THEY'RE BEING DONE. WE WOULDN'T HAVE EVERY SINGLE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE RIGHT THERE ON THE REPORT THAT I SAW LAST WEEK.

FIVE MAJOR ROADS ARE EITHER CRITICAL, SEVERE, OR TOTALLY OVERLOADED.

THIS IS INEXCUSABLE IN APPLYING FOR ANYTHING.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A MORATORIUM ON BUILDING IN THIS COUNTY, AND SPECIFICALLY IN THIS CITY, BECAUSE OUR ROADS CAN'T HANDLE IT. THE NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR FRED PARK.

TWO LANES ALL OVER TWO LANES. HOW? I MEAN, I MAY NOT BE A, YOU KNOW, PERSON OF CITY STATURE AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW, KNOWING OF A WAY. BUT I'M A LOGICAL PERSON.

I'M A COMPUTER PROGRAMMER, I KNOW LOGIC, AND I KNOW THIS TWO LANES AND TWO LANES OUT IS NOT GOING TO WORK IN THIS CITY FOREVER.

SO WE NEED TO STOP BUILDING. AND YOU KNOW WHO THE THE LOBBYISTS WERE FOR ALL OF THIS? THE BUILDERS, THE REALTORS, THE LEFTISTS. IT'S ALL LISTED IN THE BILL ON ON THE FLORIDA REPRESENTATIVE WEBSITE. SO THIS HAS BEEN ORCHESTRATED. THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

IT WAS ORCHESTRATED. AND NO ONE IN OUR LEGISLATOR LEGISLATURES EVEN VOTED AGAINST IT.

EVERYBODY IN THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE VOTED FOR IT.

SO THINK ABOUT THAT. LAKE MAYOR DOES THAT. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS, MAYOR. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANDSMAN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

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I JUST WANT TO REITERATE. THE CITIZENS GET TWO, THREE, MAYBE THREE TIMES TO DISCUSS THESE PROJECTS BEFORE IT GETS TO THIS POINT. CORRECT. YEAH. CORRECT.

THE PLAT IS THE END. YEAH. RIGHT. SO THEY'LL HAVE PLANNING AND ZONING US TWICE, AND THEN IT GOES TO THIS.

CORRECT. IT GETS BUILT. I MEAN, YOU MAY EVEN HAVE A PRELIMINARY A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL SUBDIVISIONS, I MEAN, THESE ARE SUBDIVISIONS, PUDS, WHICH IS WHY THERE IS A PLOT.

SO THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT COME BEFORE YOU HAVE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THINGS WHERE THEY'RE AUTOMATICALLY PUDS.

YOU GET THE PUD, THEY MOST TIME THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN AND HAVE SOME TYPE OF LAND USE OR ZONING CHANGE.

FOR MOST OF THOSE CASES, THEY'RE GOING TO EITHER THEY HAVE AN EXISTING PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO AMEND, OR THEY'RE GOING TO CREATE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS GOING TO GIVE YOU WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING, THEIR INTENSITIES. YOU KNOW, A LOT OF HOW THE LAYOUT IS BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO PUTTING IT ON THE MYLAR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. YES, MAYOR.

I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT REGARDLESS OF WHICH LEGISLATORS VOTED FOR IT OR NOT, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE GOVERNOR IN THE COUNTRY.

HE SIGNED IT, AND HE'S GOING TO VETO A BUNCH OF BILLS THIS SUMMER, SO.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS, COUNCILMAN LAND.

[COUNCIL REPORTS:]

I HAD A GREAT, GREAT FEW WEEKS, BUT I REALLY AM GREAT TO BE BACK.

AND HAPPY 4TH OF JULY. WE'RE GOING TO CELEBRATE, YOU KNOW, OUR NATION'S BIRTH TOMORROW.

IT'S THE 249TH BIRTHDAY. MAYOR, YOU DID A PHENOMENAL JOB ON THE ARMY'S 250TH BIRTHDAY ON THE NEWS, REPRESENTING THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND WISHING THE ARMY A HAPPY 250TH BIRTHDAY.

AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. I LOVE TO SEE THE PATRIOTISM.

AND THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF SPURRED ME TO WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY.

SO I WANT TO FEEL YOU GUYS OUT AND AND SEE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE.

NEXT YEAR WILL BE THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

PEOPLE ARE DOING SOME, SOME BIG STUFF, AND AND I FEEL LIKE PALM BAY SHOULD, TOO, I THINK.

IN THE PAST, WE HAVEN'T BEEN PAST BEING BEFORE EVEN THE LAST COUNCIL, WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUPER GREAT.

BUT I THINK IN THE LAST COUNCIL WITH THE MAYOR, COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SOME PATRIOTIC INITIATIVES HAVE BEEN BEING PHASED IN THAT I LIKE TO SEE WITH THE FLAGS GOING OUT, WE DO SOME STUFF WITH VETERANS DAY.

I THINK YOU SAID THE YOUTH COUNCIL BROUGHT SOME GOOD IDEAS IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOMETHING REALLY BIG FOR THE 250TH.

AND SO I KIND OF WANTED TO FILL YOU GUYS OUT AND SEE IF YOU WOULD MIND IF I BRING BACK SOMETHING FORMAL UNDER NEW BUSINESS IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WITH A PLAN THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY CREATE CREATE A FUND THAT WE CAN RAISE DONORS FOR FOR THE NEXT YEAR, AND THEN CREATE A MEDIUM WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GIVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND ESSENTIALLY TAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

SEE? SEE WHAT WE HAVE DONATED FUNDING FOR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DO THIS WITH TAX DOLLARS, BUT I WANT TO I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LOVE A PATRIOTIC CITY.

CULTURE AND HISTORY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN GET TOO BUSY AND WRAPPED UP IN THE MOMENT WITH AND FORGET ABOUT. BUT 250 YEARS AGO, MEN STAKED THEIR LIVES, FORTUNES AND SACRED HONOR ON MAKING THIS COUNTRY AND LITERALLY SIGN THEIR DEATH WARRANT.

AND IF THEY HAD FAILED, YOU KNOW, THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, BUT THEY SUCCEEDED.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND WE SHOULD HONOR THAT. SO I WANT TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL THAT BASICALLY HAS A MEDIUM FOR RAISING MONEY, HAS A MEDIUM FOR CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT TO GIVE THEIR IDEAS.

AND THEN AND THEN FIGURE OUT HOW TO EXECUTE IT.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND PRETTY MUCH LEADING UP TO NEXT 4TH OF JULY.

SO I GOT TO TELL YOU, I LOVE THE IDEA, BUT I THINK, MOREOVER, I THINK PART OF THAT SHOULD BE A COMMITTEE THAT YOU CREATE, PERHAPS WORK WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND CREATE A COMMITTEE WITH OUR TOP NOTCH EMPLOYEES WITH IDEOLOGIES OF HOW WE COULD REALLY BLOW IT OUT INSTEAD OF JUST THE FIREWORKS.

BUT HOW CAN WE ELEVATE THAT? RIGHT? HOW CAN WE ELEVATE THE I MEAN, THIS IS THE 250TH BIRTHDAY OF OUR NATION.

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BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EQUIP MAYBE SOMEONE FROM FINANCE, SOMEONE YOU KNOW THAT WOULD CAN COLLABORATE WITH THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN OF COURSE, GET OUR CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.

THERE ARE MANY OF OUR CITIZENS THAT PROBABLY WOULD WANT TO ENGAGE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY RIGHT IN THE OFF IN THE AUDIENCE RIGHT THERE.

I SEE TWO SAILORS. YOU KNOW, SO I'M JUST THINKING THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

I'M I'M I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. AWESOME. AND SO THAT WAS THE FIRST THING.

SO I'LL GET WITH YEP. VFW AND AMERICAN LEGION'S REACH OUT TO THEM.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY THING. WELL, YEAH. YEAH. GOT IT.

GOT IT. WELL. THE MEMBER. YEAH. YEAH, YEAH. SO? SO I'LL SIT DOWN WITH WITH THE CITY MANAGER OVER THE COMING WEEKS AND WE'LL, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A MORE FINITE PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK. AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO REVISE THAT, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS A YEAR OUT. SO WE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO WORK ON IT, BUT SO SO THEN ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP WHEN WE, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT SOME OF OUR VETERANS.

MAYOR. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF OUR PALM BAY VETERANS WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE.

AND, AND THIS COULD MAYBE EVEN BE TIED INTO THE TWO THINGS, OR THEY COULD BE SEPARATE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT I'VE SEEN.

IN OUR OWN CITY. I WAS ON A STREET THE OTHER DAY, AND UNLIKE MOST OF OUR STREET NAMES, IT HAD A FIRST AND A LAST NAME.

I SAID, WELL, WHAT'S SIGNIFICANT ABOUT THAT? SO I LOOKED IT UP AND IT WAS A SPECIALIST THAT WAS KILLED EARLY ON, I THINK IN 2003 MAYBE. OR WHICH ONE? JEREMIAH.

SANCHO? YES. YES. NO. HE HE WAS KILLED IN THE KANDAHAR PROVINCE OF AFGHANISTAN, I THINK IT WAS 20, 12, 20. WAS IT? OKAY, SO A MILITARY TIMES ARTICLE POPPED UP WHEN I TYPED HIS NAME IN AND SAID RESIDENT OF PALM BAY.

SO THAT THAT SPURRED ME. SO I THOUGHT, WELL, I THINK IT'S AWESOME WE DID THAT.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THAT WITH ALL OF THEM.

THAT SHOULD BE A SOP IF WE IF WE LOSE A PALM BAY RESIDENT.

LISTEN, WE GOT LIKE HOW MANY STREETS DO WE HAVE PALM BAY? WE GOT SO MANY. WE GOT GERMAN NAMES AND ALL KINDS OF NAMES.

I THINK WE COULD FIGURE OUT A STREET NAME TO RENAME.

YEAH. THAT HAPPENED. SO JUST TO THE HISTORY OF JEREMIAH SANTORO, STREET NAMING HIS FAMILY CAME FORWARD TO.

AND WE DO HAVE A PROCESS, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.

AND THE FAMILY CAME FORWARD AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL THAT AT THAT TIME APPROVED THAT.

SO BUT YEAH. NO, I, I LOVE THAT IDEA TO HONOR THESE AND THEN AND THEN ANOTHER THING SO I, I GO I LIKE WHEN I GET A WEEK OR SO OFF EVERY SUMMER WE HAVE A SCOUT SUMMER CAMP. WE GO OUT OF TOWN OR OUT OF STATE, AND THEN IN THE FALL BREAK, I GO OUT OF STATE, AND I NORMALLY END UP BECAUSE I TRY TO GET SOMEWHERE WITH MOUNTAINS, BUT NOT TOO FAR SO I CAN DRIVE.

SO I NORMALLY END UP IN GEORGIA AND ALABAMA AND STATES LIKE THAT AND THESE LITTLE TOWNS THEY HAVE.

I GUESS IT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE AT THE VMC, AND MAYBE IT'S THE KIND OF THEIR COUNTY SEAT.

SO MAYBE THE VMC ALREADY COVERS DOWN ON THIS, BUT SOME OF THESE TOWNS HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR CITY HALL MEMORIALS. AND THEY HAVE ALL THE WARS IN A CIRCLE, AND IT JUST LOOKS REALLY NICE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR CITY HALL.

SO I'VE JUST SEEN IT AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE IT.

YOU KNOW, THAT OTHER CITIES DO DO IT, AND IT LOOKS REALLY NICE, BUT IT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE VMS, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT BE THE VMC THAT DOES THAT FOR US ALREADY. BUT SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP SINCE WE IT CAME UP IN AN EARLIER ITEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO WAIT TILL COUNCIL REPORTS AND THEN SO THOSE ARE SOME SOME COOL IDEAS THAT I HAD. BUT THEN THE ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WITH IN REFERENCE TO KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER, BUT NOT IN REFERENCE TO THE CONTENT OF THE VIDEO, BUT JUST IN REFERENCE TO OUR POLICY ON DECORUM WITH VIDEO.

SO WE TALK SO WE SUBMIT A VIDEO. SO I GUESS I KIND OF HAVE A QUESTION NOW.

SO FOR STAFF. SO WE SUBMIT A VIDEO OR WE CAME UP WITH A PROCESS WHERE YOU SUBMIT A VIDEO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH A RULE THAT SAYS YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE QUORUM. SO IF SOMEBODY SUBMITS A VIDEO AND IT HAS, YOU KNOW, EXPLICIT WORDS IN IT OR WHATNOT, THAT BREAKS OUR DECORUM.

WE OBVIOUSLY WANT TO RESPECT THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT, BUT IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SHARE THIS VIDEO, BUT THERE'S SOME AREAS IN IT THAT BREAKS OUR DECORUM.

YOU NEED TO GO BACK AND YOU NEED TO BLEEP THOSE AREAS OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE THERE'S YOU KNOW,

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WE GOT OTHER YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS. WE'VE HAD KIDS COME IN HERE AND SPEAK.

SO IF WE'RE LITERALLY HAVING A POLICY WHERE WE SUBMIT A VIDEO TO BE VIEWED TO MAKE SURE IT'S GOOD TO SHOW AT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN IT STILL COMES UP AND IT'S GOT EXPLETIVES IN IT.

THAT KIND OF I FEEL LIKE THAT KIND OF BEATS THE PROCESS. SO I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VIDEO AND IT HAS ITS EXPLETIVE LANGUAGE, CAN WE SUBMIT IT BACK TO THE PERSON AND SAY, HEY, IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO SHOW THIS VIDEO IN YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

THE BURDEN IS ON YOU, BUT YOU NEED TO BLEEP OUT THE EXPLICIT LANGUAGE.

IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? IS THAT SHOULD THAT ALREADY BE IN THE POLICY? THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. I THINK THAT'S A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION.

RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS WHAT WE CAN DO AT COUNCIL MEETINGS REGARDING FOUL LANGUAGE, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CLEAR BEFORE BECAUSE IT WAS TREATING COUNCIL MEETING.

THERE IS CASE LAW TREATING COUNCIL MEETINGS ESSENTIALLY LIKE COURT PROCEEDINGS.

AND THAT YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE DECORUM AND THE BE LIKE AND BE ABLE TO MANAGE THAT.

CERTAINLY THERE WAS SOME LIMITS. IF IT WAS FLEETING, YOU COULD GO AGAINST IT.

BUT THERE WAS A CASE. GRANTED, IT WAS NOT A HOLDING, WHICH MEANS IT DOESN'T HAVE THE WEIGHT, BUT IT WAS RECENT. AS FAR AS WHAT THE MOMS OF LIBERTY, THE WHOLE THING DIDN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE LANGUAGE, BUT IN WHAT THEY WOULD CALL DICTA, THE COURT DID MENTION, WELL, WE'RE NOT EVEN SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT PART WOULD BE LEGAL. IT'S NOT THE HOLDING, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WHERE THE COURTS WONDER, LIKE, HEY, MAYBE WE'VE GONE TOO FAR IN ALLOWING THEM TO DO THAT.

THE EXISTING CASE LAW IS, YOU KNOW, YES, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE TACKLING, MANNERS, RESTRICTIONS DON'T GO OVERBOARD.

PLEADING IS OKAY, BUT YOU DO HAVE MORE RECENT CASE THAT SEEMS TO THINK THAT, WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO REEVALUATE THAT.

AND MAYBE THERE REALLY ISN'T A GOOD BASIS FOR BEING ABLE TO DO IT ON JUST NORMAL DECORUM AND IT WOULD FALL TO THE HIGHER STANDARDS.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE NUANCED. CERTAINLY WE CAN LOOK INTO IT MORE, BUT THERE IS, ALTHOUGH BIG I DICTA WHERE COURTS ARE LOOKING AT, MAYBE WE'RE GIVING THEM A LITTLE TOO MUCH FLEXIBILITY AS FAR AS REINING IN SPEECH.

IT'S NOT THE I'M HOLDING, BUT IT IS DOES SHOW THAT THEY MAY BE LOOKING TO REVISE PRIOR CASES.

OKAY. WELL, FOR FOR THE MEANTIME, I MEAN, WE WE PASSED A, A DECORUM RULE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, AND WE SAID THAT WE DON'T WANT ANY CURSING, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND SO THAT'S FINE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SAKE, BUT IT SHOULD ALSO APPLY TO THE VIDEO.

SO I GUESS UNTIL, YOU KNOW, A COURT SPECIFICALLY SAID OTHERWISE, I'D LIKE TO.

WELL, I THINK WHAT WE ALREADY PASSED ALREADY COVERS IT.

REALLY. I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF MY QUESTION. SO I THINK WHAT WE ALREADY PASSED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO SAID THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE CURSING.

SO THAT SHOULD ALSO THEN APPLY TO THE VIDEO. IS THAT WRONG OR NO? IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION TO YOU REAL QUICK, NONE OF THE WORDS THAT MAN SPOKE WERE ORIGINAL WORDS.

THEY WERE REPEATED WORDS. SO ARE THOSE EVEN PROTECTED UNDER FREEDOM OF SPEECH? YES. I MEAN FREEDOM OF SPEECH. THERE IS NO DIFFERENTIATION AS FAR AS WHETHER IT IS CURSE WORDS OR NOT, OR WHETHER HE'S REPEATING HIS OWN ORIGINAL IDEAS OR HE'S REPEATING SOMEBODY ELSE'S WORDS.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LIKE I SAID, IT IS DICTA.

IT ISN'T A HOLDING WHAT RISK YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO TAKE.

IT DOES, ALTHOUGH THE DICTA DOES INDICATE THE COURT'S WILLINGNESS TO REVISIT SOME THINGS, AND MAYBE THAT THEIR POSITIONS HAVE CHANGED.

YEAH. AND SO TO MY POINT, I MEAN, THERE COULD BE A VIDEO IN THE FUTURE THAT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE AND IT'S REALLY RELEVANT.

BUT WE'VE GOT 30 BOY SCOUTS IN FRONT OF US AND THE F-BOMBS DROP LIKE SEVEN TIMES, YOU KNOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE POLICY THAT WE PASSED ALREADY COVERS IT.

SO MY POINT IS, IN THE FUTURE, IF A VIDEO COMES UP, IT SHOULD ALSO FALL UNDER THE DECORUM RULES THAT WE PASS A COUPLE OF WEEKS, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO. AND THE BURDEN SHOULD BE ON THE PERSON THAT'S BRINGING THE VIDEO UP THAT THOSE IF THEY WANT TO SHARE THAT VIDEO AND THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN THOSE WORDS SHOULD BE BLEEPED OUT.

ALL RIGHT, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN HAM. I HAVE A MONTH AND TWO WEEKS WORTH OF STUFF, SO I'M CUTTING IT IN HALF JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIME. MY FIRST THING IS I WANT TO ADDRESS OUR TURKEY CREEK.

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SO WHEN WE DO GET FUNDING, WE CLEAN TURKEY CREEK, BUT THESE FEEDER CANALS ARE STILL JUST BRINGING IN.

IT'S LIKE IT'S LIKE TREATING A KNIFE WOUND WITHOUT TAKING THE KNIFE OUT.

SO I WAS SEEING IF OUR COUNCIL APPETITE US DOING AN INTERNAL STUDY TO FIND WHAT CANALS ARE, ARE ACTUALLY IN TURKEY CREEK WEST OF US ONE IN DECLARING THEM PART OF TURKEY CREEK.

SO WHEN WE DO HAVE FUNDING, THEY GET ADDRESSED.

I'M FINE WITH I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF STUDY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE A TURKEY CREEK STUDY.

AND I'M NOT SURE. AND I KNOW WE PAID A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

HONEY. SO PERHAPS THAT STUDY IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.

COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. THAT'S WHY I WAS GOING TO JUMP IN ON SO JOHN MANGIONE AND A TEAM OF OTHERS YEARS BEFORE I WAS EVEN ON COUNCIL HAD PUSHED FOR THAT. CITY MANAGEMENT AND COUNCIL TO DO A TURKEY FEASIBILITY STUDY.

IT WAS FUNDED, I THINK, BY REPRESENTATIVE FINE OR WHO FUNDED IT.

WELL, WE GOT WE GOT THE WE GOT THE MONEY. YEAH, WE GOT THE MONEY FOR IT SO THAT IT WAS DONE.

IT WAS. YEAH. EITHER WAY IT WAS DONE. I HAD SPOKEN I HAD SPOKEN TO MR. MORTON SHORTLY AFTER HIM BEING ON THE YOU KNOW, BEING JOINING US ABOUT IT AND GAVE HIM THE CONTACT FOR JOHN G.

SO HE CAN HAVE SOME HISTORICAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT IT.

IN FACT, MA'AM. MRS. CONNOLLY WAS IN WITH A MEETING ON THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT WAS DONE.

IT WAS FUNDED, BUT THERE WAS NO MOVEMENT OR NO ACTION ON ALL THESE ACTION ITEMS THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED.

SO TO YOUR POINT, I WOULD SAY START WITH THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS COULD ACTUALLY.

I MET WITH GABRIEL HOLDEN AND AT THE TIME AND I FORGOT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WAS.

YEP, SHE WAS PART OF IT TOO. BUT ALSO PEREZ, VALENTINO PEREZ HAD SPOKEN TO HIM ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE'S ACTUALLY AN ORGANIZATION, A COMPANY THAT THEY GET FUNDING FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE A PERCENTAGE OF IT.

BUT IF THEY CAN GET THE FUNDING AND WE GET THE PROJECT COMPLETED, LIKE TAKE THE PERCENTAGE YOU NEED.

SO, YEAH, WELL, THIS ISN'T REALLY TRYING TO SEE WHAT CAN BE SPENT WHERE IT IS, WHAT IS BEING DEEMED PART OF TURKEY CREEK.

WELL, AGAIN, LOOK AT WHAT THEY DON'T THINK. THE FEASIBILITY STUDY BRANCHED OUT TO SEE WHAT IS TURKEY CREEK AND WHAT'S NOT.

SO I WAS TRYING TO SAY IF WE COULD SEE THE POLLUTANTS THAT ARE POLLUTING TURKEY CREEK RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE CALLED DRAINAGE CANALS. SO RIGHT NOW WHEN WE GET FUNDING, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CLEAN TURKEY CREEK, BUT THESE DRAINAGE CANALS ARE STILL GOING TO BE FULL OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TAKING OUT OF TURKEY CREEK.

AND THAT'S WHY AS WE TAKE IT OUT, IT'S GOING TO POUR RIGHT BACK IN. IT'S MY INTERPRETATION THAT THAT'S WHY WE HAD THOSE NUTRIENT FILTERING BAFFLE BOXES.

RIGHT. AND I KNOW WE GOT MORE COMING. RIGHT. WE DO HAVE MORE COMING, BUT THOSE THERE'S AREAS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE DEEMED TURKEY CREEK THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE RECEIVING THEM. I GOT IT. SO RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, I'LL USE PALM BAY ESTATES AS AS A GREAT EXAMPLE, PALM BAY ESTATES HAS BOATS THAT COME UP AND DOWN.

THEY'RE UP AND DOWN THEIR CANAL, AND THEIR CANAL IS ATROCIOUS.

WHEN THE FUNDING COMES THROUGH, IT'S NOT GOING TO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PART OF THAT.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S RIGHT AT THE MOUTH OF TURKEY CREEK.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THAT THAT MIGHT COST? DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OR YOU JUST LOOK INTO TO DEEM IT PART OF TURKEY CREEK? IT'S PROBABLY ZERO. NO, I'M SAYING THE STUDY THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR A STUDY. JUST IF WE CAN USE OUR GIS.

SEE WHAT IS PART OF TURKEY CREEK. BRING IT TO US AND GIVE US A YES OR NO TO DEEM IT PART OF TURKEY CREEK.

OKAY, I GOT IT. OKAY, OKAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE INTERNAL.

IT'S NOT EVEN A STUDY IF YOU IF YOU IF YOU MENTIONED IT AHEAD OF YOU STARTED WITH A STUDY SO MUCH INTO THE STUDY.

WELL IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERNAL STUDY. YEAH.

SO OUR GIS CAN GO THROUGH AND SEE THE WATERWAYS THAT ARE THERE AND SOME THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTING OUR TURKEY CREEK BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I MEAN I'M GOOD WITH THAT. WE CAN CLEAN IT ALL WE WANT TO.

BUT IF WE DON'T GET THOSE FEEDER CANALS. YEAH.

MR. MORTON. WE'RE WE'RE GOOD WITH DOING AN INTERNAL STUDY.

AND, LISA, I SEE JOHNSON GAVE A THUMBS UP AND MYSELF.

OKAY. WHAT'S NEXT? OKAY. I WAS I WAS GOING TO MEADOWBROOK FOR A COMPLAINT, AND I WAS.

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I WAS SEEING HOW OUR COUNCIL FELT ABOUT POSSIBLY USING MEADOWBROOK AS A LAB TEST TO COME UP WITH SOME IDEAS TO FOR AGGRESSIVE DRIVING. I KNOW IT IS A MAJOR CUT THROUGH, AND PEOPLE ARE EXTREMELY AGGRESSIVE ON THE ROAD AND I HAVE DONE THIS OR I HAVE READ STUDIES ON HOW HOW SPEED HUMPS WITH THE PEOPLE STOPPING AND BREAKING THE SQUEALING IS JUST GOING TO CUT YOU OFF RIGHT THERE, BUDDY. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL 1130 SECOND.

I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE SINGING IT BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. CARRY ON.

SO I'VE DONE THE. I WAS ADVISED TO DO A STUDY ON ON THE SPEED HUMPS WHERE WHEN PEOPLE SLOW DOWN, THEY'RE SQUEALING. WHEN THEY TAKE OFF AFTER THE SPEED BUMP, IT'S EXCESSIVELY LOUD.

ESPECIALLY ALL ALL HOURS. I WAS SEEING IF WE COULD POSSIBLY USE MEADOWBROOK AS A LAB TEST FOR OPTIONS ON SLOWING DOWN SPEEDERS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT WE CAN WORK ON.

ARE THERE RESIDENTS ON MEADOWBROOK? YES. THERE ARE.

AND FRANK WATANABE ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE AND DID AN ASSESSMENT AND SAID THAT IT THAT THERE WAS AN ISSUE THERE.

TOLD THE TOLD THE THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO AND GET A PETITION AND 92% OF THE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD SIGNED IT.

THEN IT JUST WENT AWAY. SO I WAS HOPING WE COULD JUST WORK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT AND.

OKAY, MAYBE LAB TEST IT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, FULL DISCLOSURE, HE'S TOLD A LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT BECAUSE I HEARD THE SAME THING FROM RESIDENTS, TOO. BRICKELL IS A PRIME EXAMPLE BECAUSE THERE'S A CUT THROUGH.

THERE'S THE GENTLEMAN, EDWIN CORONADO, WHO'S BEEN PATIENTLY WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WORKING WITH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A SPEED THROUGH.

SO I JUST I SEE IT EVERYWHERE I GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE IT'S A PEOPLE PROBLEM. IT'S I SEE RED LIGHTS RAN EVERY DAY.

PEOPLE ARE JUST ALWAYS IN A SENSE OF HURRY OR URGENCY.

INSTEAD OF WAKING UP A LITTLE EARLY OR JUST PREPARING BETTER.

HOW DO WE SOLVE IT? YOU KNOW, WE ATTEMPT IT WITH THE THE RED LIGHTS, BUT IT'S ENFORCEMENT.

IT COMES DOWN TO MORALS, REALLY. BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S THE BEST.

I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS A THIS IS A STAFF ISSUE, RIGHT? WE DON'T RUN THE CITY ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS. I THINK YOU VOICE YOUR CONCERN TO THE CITY MANAGER.

I THINK THEY WILL COME BACK TO US WITH A SOLUTION AND A COST, AND WE CAN ANALYZE THEN A DECISION COLLECTIVELY.

OKAY. WHAT'S NEXT, COUNCILMAN HAMMOND? NEXT. I'M JUST GOING TO BRING UP THE PINEWOOD APARTMENTS AGAIN.

WHAT? THE PINEWOOD APARTMENTS. OKAY. THEY'RE STILL SITTING THERE WITH GETTING WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE.

I KNOW AT ONE POINT, STAFF WAS WAS WORKING ON THEM.

MOVING FORWARD ON SOMETHING, BUT IT'S STILL SITTING THERE.

AND I GUESS A LOT OF THE STUFF IS PEELING OFF EVEN MORE.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD. MR.. YES. WE GOT JOHN PEARSON UP.

WE GOT SOMETHING COMING, ACTUALLY, AT THE NEXT MEETING. WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T FORGET ABOUT THAT. IT'S JUST BEEN A PROCESS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. SO WE HAVE SERVED NOTICES ON PINEWOOD AS AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE EXPIRED PERMITS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WHEN GIVING THEM 60 DAYS TO EITHER COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH A PERMIT OR REMOVE THE MATERIALS THEMSELVES. AND IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD AS THE BUILDING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FUNDS TO REMOVE THOSE MATERIALS.

WHAT'S COMING? WE JUST RECEIVED BIDS WORKING WITH PROCUREMENT.

SO NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, YOU WILL SEE THAT BID COMING FORWARD.

AND ONCE THAT IS A FORWARD AWARDED BEGINNING OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WHEN WE HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND LASTLY, I WASN'T GOING TO BRING THIS UP EARLIER JUST BECAUSE OF HOW TENSIONS WERE, BUT I WANTED TO THANK MARIO FOR HIS TIME HERE AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I KNOW I'M GOING TO BE A LOT MORE EMOTIONAL IN APRIL, BUT I, I THINK EXTREMELY HIGHLY OF YOU.

YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A GREAT PERSON, GREAT ROLE MODEL, BEEN BEEN AN INSPIRATION TO BE AROUND YOU THROUGHOUT MY TIME HERE AT THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE MR. SPEIRS ON HIS RECENT PROMOTION. I REMEMBER. I REMEMBER AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, SEEING YOU DOING PUSH UPS AS AN EXPLORER AND CJ YELLING AT YOU. I REMEMBER SEEING THAT SPECIFICALLY IN MY HEAD.

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AND LASTLY, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO TO MR. MARTIN. HE'S MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS HERE AT THE CITY.

I BACK HIM 200% ON WHAT HE'S DOING, AND I WANT TO SHOW MY GRATITUDE AND MY THANKFULNESS FOR HOW HARD YOU WORK. THE COMMUNICATION, EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO IS IS BEYOND AMAZING.

AND I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS SO FAR.

AND CONGRATULATIONS, SIR. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THREE THINGS. FIRST THING IN REGARDS TO THE THE LADY WHO SPOKE, WHO WASN'T INFORMED IN REGARDS TO WHEN TO DO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

QUICK AND EASY SOLUTION. HAVE IT ON THE BOARD OR HAVE IT ON THE SCREENS FOR WHEN THEY WALK IN.

HEY, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU CAN GRAB ONE.

GRAB ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, ORANGE CARDS AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE CITY CLERK WHO'S SITTING IN THE CORNER OF THE ROOM WHERE YOU ENTER THE BUILDING.

LIKE SOMETHING SIMPLE LIKE THAT HAPPENED ON BOTH SIDES, WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND THEY CAN SEE THAT SECOND THING.

I'M IN GREAT SUPPORT OF HAVING SOME TYPE OF FUNDING.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE FUNDING FOR FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR STAFF TO GO TO THESE TRAININGS AND EVERYTHING, BUT TO ACTUALLY GO TO DC OR THE TALLAHASSEE WHEN IT'S LIGHT AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING, YOU KNOW, BAMBOOZLED BY LOBBYISTS BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE LAWYERS ARE WRITING THE LAWS, AND THEN THEY'RE JUST PASSING IT TO THEIR OWN, PASSING IT TO THE LEGISLATORS, WHICH IRONICALLY, MOST OF THEM ARE LAWYERS AS WELL IN THE FLORIDA STATE LEGISLATURE.

SO THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION. BUT ANYWAYS, JUST HAVING THOSE MOMENTS WHEN IT'S NOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION ISN'T WITH PANDEMONIUM WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY GET OUR POINT ACROSS.

I THINK THAT'S BIG. AND WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS LIKE REPEALING THE LIVE LOCAL ACT OR, YOU KNOW, REVISING IT AND OTHER THINGS THAT WE AS A CITY OF PALM BAY FOUND A PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, THEY REPRESENT EVERYBODY AS A WHOLE, BUT WE STILL ARE DIFFERENT FROM ORLANDO, FROM TITUSVILLE, FROM MELBOURNE. SO I DO I'M IN SUPPORT OF, YOU KNOW, FINDING AT LEAST SOME TYPE OF ALLOCATION TOWARDS THAT.

LASTLY KUDOS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS, MAYOR.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING YOUR THUNDER. ARREST OF 2009 MURDER SUSPECT.

THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE UNITED STATES MARSHALS SERVICE, HAS APPREHENDED LUIS COLON, WHO HAS BEEN WANTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE 2009 PALM BAY HOMICIDE.

THE HOMICIDE OCCURRED IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHERE A FEMALE VICTIM, HIS GIRLFRIEND, WAS FATALLY SHOT IN THE FRONT OF HER APARTMENT AS SHE RETURNED HOME FROM WORK IN 2013. A GRAND JURY INDICTED COLOGNE ON CHARGES OF FIRST DEGREE FELONY MURDER AND ROBBERY WITH THE FIREARM.

SO LET ME PAUSE. A WARRANT WAS ISSUED FOR HIS ARREST.

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN REGARDS TO LEGISLATION THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT YOU CAN BE INDICTED FOR A FELONY CHARGE, LIKE MURDER, BUT YOU CAN STILL TRAVEL. THAT'S ALARMING GOING ON.

LAST WEEK, INVESTIGATORS RECEIVED CREDIBLE INFORMATION INDICATING THAT COLOGNE MAY BE RESIDING IN PUERTO RICO.

US MARSHALS TASK FORCE OFFICER WITH THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTED A FOLLOW UP INVESTIGATION WHICH CONFIRMED COLOGNE'S LOCATION.

WORKING ALONGSIDE OUR PARTNERS IN PUERTO RICO.

COLOGNE WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY WITHOUT INCIDENT THAT MORNING.

HE IS CURRENTLY AWAITING EXTRADITION TO FLORIDA, WHERE HE WILL BE FACING THE ORIGINAL CHARGES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT LIKE, YEAH, LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 2009, 16 YEARS.

BUT FOR THAT FAMILY, THE PEACE THAT Y'ALL ARE GIVING THEM, KNOWING THAT JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED.

LIKE JUST A CREDIT TO THE BOYS AND BOYS AND GIRLS IN BLUE.

SO JUST HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I'M DONE. MAYOR.

THANK YOU. THAT INVESTIGATIVE ARM. RIGHT? YEAH.

DEPUTY MAYOR THANK YOU. A COUPLE COUPLE THINGS.

I'M TRAVELING DURING THE DAY ON JULY 10TH. I WILL BE HERE ON THE COUNCIL MEETING ON THE EVENING.

BUT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, ARE YOU STILL ABLE TO ATTEND TPO? YES. OKAY. AND THEN IF I KNOW AS ALTERNATE ALTERNATIVE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ATTEND BY ANY CHANCE, THAT THAT WOULD BE SUPER, SUPER HELPFUL. TO COUNCILMAN LANGFORD'S POINT, I JUST I JUST HAPPEN TO KNOW OF A STREET IN PALM BAY.

IT'S CALLED JT SANCHO. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS.

IS THAT THE ONE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER? OKAY. JEREMIAH. GOTCHA. YEAH.

AND THEN JUST ONE OTHER ITEM LOOKING TO. I'M INTO SPONSORING AN ORDINANCE.

CITY ATTORNEY SAYS, I HAD TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE MEETING PRECEDING THE NEXT MEETING. SO CITY ATTORNEY IS PREPARING AN ORDINANCE THAT WILL PRESENT AT THE NEXT REGULAR, REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING REGARDING EMPLOYEE POLICY.

THE BASIC FRAMEWORK OF THE ORDINANCE WILL BE IF A PALM BAY EMPLOYEE LEAVES THE EMPLOYMENT OF THE CITY FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR,

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SO IF THEY IF THEY RECRUIT SOMEONE, IT PREVENTS IT PREVENTS POACHING ENGINEERING, ENGINEERING.

AND YEAH, IT ALSO PREVENTS SITUATIONS LIKE WE HAVE WITH CERTAIN VENDORS WHERE PAST DIRECTORS ARE WORKING.

YEAH. IT'LL PREVENT THOSE SITUATIONS. SITUATIONS OUTSTANDING.

THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS? IT CONCLUDES.

OKAY. BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUP. CUP. I GOT SEVERAL.

SO THE VERY FIRST THING I WANT TO TOUCH ON IS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT MIKE HAMMER OR COUNCILMAN HAMMER TOUCHED ON.

WE SUFFERED A CATASTROPHIC EVENT WITH TURKEY CREEK, BUT I WANT TO JUST SHOUT OUT TO THE STAFFERS AND IF YOU HAVE EVER SEEN AND I'VE WITNESSED COLLABORATION AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE TEAM CAME TOGETHER EFFECTIVELY THE DIALOG THAT WENT ON AND THE WAY THEY THEY HANDLED THIS, THE CONTRACTOR, EVEN THE CONTRACTOR, WAS PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AND COINCIDENTALLY, THEY WERE PALM BAY THEY BOTH GRADUATED BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL, 2004.

AND THEY'RE THEY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THEM WORKED OVER 24 HOURS A UTILITIES EMPLOYEE.

AND SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE TEAM THAT WE DO HAVE.

AND I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THEM. AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO WANT TO SHOUT OUT THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT GREAT INVESTIGATIVE WORK.

AND THEY WENT AND GOT THE THE INDIVIDUAL IN PUERTO RICO.

HAD I KNOWN, I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY GONE WITH THEM.

NAH, I'M JUST KIDDING. BUT I WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOUR GUIDE.

BUT NO JOKES ASIDE, I WOULD HAVE GONE. I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO EACH AND EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL.

WE CELEBRATED 250 YEARS OF THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

WE ALSO CELEBRATED FLAG DAY. AND ON THAT DAY, WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE PEACE IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS THAT WERE JOHNNY ON THE SPOT, THEY HAD THEY WERE PREPARED FOR JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT WOULD GO DOWN AND TO THAT ARGUMENT. WE'RE CELEBRATING 249 YEARS TOMORROW.

AND IN THAT UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PROTESTS, BUT UNDERSTAND THIS.

OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS ARE WELL PREPARED.

THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT CHATTER. THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT INTEL, AND THEY WILL BE VERY WELL PREPARED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF LIFE WITHIN OUR CITY. AND A BIG SHOUT OUT TO OUR POLICE CHIEF, MARIO ARGUELLO.

GOD BLESS YOU, BUDDY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT.

THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE. 25 YEARS.

WE'RE ALL PROUD OF YOU ON THIS, DIAS. GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.

THAT ENDS MY REPORT, MR. MORTON. YOUR REPORT? OH, NO, IT DOESN'T. IN MY REPORT, AS YOU WERE.

AS YOU WERE. I'M APPOINTING JOSE AGUILAR TO THE RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, AND I'M ALSO APPOINTING HIM TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY OVERSIGHT BOARD. JOSE AGUILAR.

OKAY, THAT CONCLUDES MY MY REPORTS. MR. MORTON, LET ME BE EXTRAORDINARILY BRIEF.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO CHRISTINE SULLIVAN AND THE TEAM.

WE HAVE A NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. I THINK I SENT THE BIO OUT.

YEAH, I THINK WE'RE DOING A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT. IT'S GOING TO START. LOOKS LIKE AUGUST 4TH. HE'LL BE HERE ACTUALLY, IN TWO WEEKS TO DO A BUNCH OF PRE WORK IN ADVANCE.

HE'S DONE AN AMAZING AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON THE CITY AND VERY HIGHLY DETAILED, EXCEPTIONAL MOTIVATED, CAPABLE DIRECTOR. AND I KNOW THE STAFF IS SUPER EXCITED.

AND THEN IN THAT LIGHT JUST A BIG THANK YOU. SO YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU COME IN AND I WAS BROUGHT IN TO MAKE SOME CHANGES AND DO SOME THINGS, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS THAT I CAN GO, BUT JUST VERY GRATEFUL.

STAFF HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT WARM, ENGAGING, SUPPORTIVE AND MOTIVATED AND AND GIVEN A LOT OF TRUST QUICKLY AND AMAZING THINGS ARE HAPPENING. AND OF COURSE, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT ALL THESE WONDERFUL FOLKS THAT, YOU KNOW, ARE HERE. AND SO I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL THAT THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO, TO EMBRACE A NEW CITY MANAGER AGAIN.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, GET DOWN TO BUSINESS WITH NEW IDEAS AND THE NEW WAYS WE'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS.

SO JUST VERY GRATEFUL. I JUST WANTED TO THANK THEM PUBLICLY.

MR. MORTON, DID YOU MENTION ABOUT ALTHEA JEFFERSON? I DID NOT. DID YOU WANT TO? I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MESSED UP MESSAGING, SO I APOLOGIZE.

WHAT DID I MISS? I WOULD LIKE TO APPOINT ALTHEA JEFFERSON.

SORRY. ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR, TO SERVE ON THE SCHOOL BOARD'S CAPITAL OUTLAY COMMITTEE AND THE EDUCATIONAL IMPACT FEE

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AS AN ALTERNATE VOTING MEMBER, ALTHEA WILL BE REPLACING JOAN JEAN BROWN.

THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. MADAM SMITH. NO, SIR. NOTHING TO REPORT, MA'AM.

OKAY. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.