[00:00:02] THE. I'M NOW GOING TO CALL THE MEETING OF THE SPECIAL SCHOOL ZONE. [CALL TO ORDER] SPECIAL MASTERY TO ORDER. WELCOME TO CITY OF PALM BAY SPECIAL ZONES. SPECIAL MASTER ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS FOR THE SCHOOLS SPEED ZONE ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM. WHEN ADDRESSING ME, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AT ALL TIMES. I WILL ASK EVERYONE TO REMAIN AND KEEP THEIR ELECTRONIC SILENCE. MY NAME IS JASON GORDON. I'M THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO HEAR THESE ADMINISTRATIVE HEARINGS AND AND DO THESE PROCEEDINGS. THE PROCESS OF THIS WILL BE YOU WILL BE SWORN IN. ALL PARTIES OR WITNESSES WILL BE SWORN IN. THE CASE WILL BE ANNOUNCED. THE CITY WILL GO FIRST. THEY WILL PRESENT THEIR EVIDENCE OF THE VIOLATION. ONCE THAT EVIDENCE IS PRESENTED, YOU WILL THEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT THAT EVIDENCE. ONCE ALL THE EVIDENCE HAS BEEN PRESENTED, I WILL MAKE A DECISION. IS THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES OF MY DECISION WILL EITHER BE I COULD UPHOLD THE VIOLATION, WHICH MEANS THAT THERE WILL BE A MANDATORY STATUTORY PENALTY OF $100 FOR THE VIOLATION PER FLORIDA LAW. THE VIOLATION WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY POINTS BEING ASSESSED AGAINST YOUR LICENSE OR AFFECT YOUR MOTOR VEHICLE INSURANCE RATES PURSUANT TO STATUTE. IF THE VIOLATION IS UPHELD, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL. YOU HAVE 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF MY ORDER TO APPEAL MY DECISION TO THE CIRCUIT COURT. ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL THE DECISION WILL NEED A RECORD OF THESE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSES MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE WHICH THE APPEAL IS BASED. THIS IS BEING RECORDED THE SESSION. SO THAT WILL BE YOUR BASIS FOR THAT. IF THE VIOLATION IS DISMISSED YOU WILL HAVE NO FURTHER OBLIGATIONS IN THIS MATTER. IT WILL BE OVER. FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS LAST MONTH'S MEETING MINUTES. [ADOPTION OF MINUTES] I WILL ADOPT AND APPROVE. OKAY. IS THE FIRST CASE READY TO CALL? CALL IN CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4730 8034. CARL CANDIDO. CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? SO HELP ME GOD. YES. OKAY. THIS CASE IS BEING WITHDRAWN, I HEARD. OKAY. SO CITY, PLEASE. YES. WE ARE WITHDRAWING THIS CASE. OKAY. THIS CASE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN AGAINST YOU OR AGAINST THE CALL. AND AS SUCH, YOU HAVE NO FURTHER ACTIONS AT THIS POINT. OKAY. THANK YOU. YEAH. GREG. NICE JOB. IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT. OKAY. THE NEXT CASE WE CALL YOUR NEXT CASE IS [HEARINGS] 2030 8000 4741 2643. ALBA. SORRENTO. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. SO HELP YOU GOD? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. SO, ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? PLEASE PRESENT YOUR CASE. MY OFFICER NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN FIRST. OFFICER. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO, THANK YOU. OFFICER. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND WHAT IS YOUR JOB WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY? CORPORAL IN THE PALM BAY POLICE TRAFFIC UNIT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT IS A MATTER IN THIS HEARING. I AM, OKAY. AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THESE FOR THESE CITATIONS? YES, I AM. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE RECORDS? YES, I DO. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM? I'VE BEEN TRAINED IN THE APPROVAL AND THE SEARCHING AND THE ISSUANCE OF THE CITATIONS IN THE PROGRAM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO WHAT WE HAVE UP HERE ON THE BOARD IS WHAT'S BEEN MARKED AS THE CITY'S EXHIBIT A WHAT IS THIS FIRST PAGE HERE? THE FIRST PAGE IS A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE OFFENDER. THE ALLEGED OFFENDER. ALL RIGHT. AND SCROLL DOWN, PLEASE. [00:05:02] AND THEN THERE'S A CONTINUATION OF THAT AT PAGE TWO. CORRECT. YES. THERE'S A NOTICE OF HEARING REQUEST AND A FORM FOR THE OWNER OF VEHICLE TO TRANSFER LIABILITY TO THE DRIVER. ALL RIGHT. CORRECT. AND THEN WE'RE MOVING ON TO B EXHIBIT B. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A NOTIFICATION LETTER OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S GO ON TO THE CITY'S EXHIBIT C. AND THIS IS THE BACK PAGE OF THAT. YEAH. NO, THE FIRST ONE WAS A HEARING FOR JUNE THE 3RD. OKAY. AND THE SECOND ONE IS FOR THE HEARING FOR JULY THE 8TH. OKAY. TODAY. SO LET'S GO ON TO EXHIBIT C. WHAT IS THIS IS THE EVIDENCE REPORT AND THE VIDEO EVIDENCE REPORT. OKAY. AND WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE EVIDENCE REPORT? IT'S A SEVERAL PAGES ABOUT THE RECORDS OR LOGS OF EVERYONE WHO HAD A HAND IN THIS, AS IN FROM REDZEPI THEMSELVES, ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE OFFICER WHO APPROVED IT. ALL RIGHT. AND THIS ALSO INCLUDES A PHOTOGRAPH AND INFORMATION ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION. CORRECT. HERE'S A PHOTO. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO. OKAY. WE'RE DOWN HERE. AND WHAT IS EXHIBIT D IS A CAMERA LOG REPORT SHOWING THAT THE SYSTEM WAS TESTED AND PASSED. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S MOVE ON TO CITY'S EXHIBIT E IS THE CALIBRATION OF THE LASER ITSELF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE WOULD. AND ARE THESE RECORDS, RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE WOULD MOVE THESE EXHIBITS INTO EVIDENCE, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION? I COULDN'T EVEN HEAR HALF OF THE THINGS SHE SAID. THAT'S WHY SHE WENT AND LIFTED THE MIC OFF, SO I COULDN'T EVEN HEAR WHAT HE WAS SAYING. OKAY. WHEN YOU CAN'T HEAR THINGS, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK UP AND TELL ME YOU CAN'T HEAR THINGS. I'M SORRY. IF ANYBODY CAN'T HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND WE WILL SPEAK UP OR GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONES. ARE YOU OUT? ARE YOU EVA ALBA? THAT'S MY MOTHER. YOU WERE HERE LAST MONTH, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND YOU EXPLAIN. I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT THE VEHICLE WAS UNDER HER NAME. BUT IT'S MY VEHICLE. WHO IS DRIVING THE VEHICLE? AT THE TIME? SHE WAS DRIVING AT THE TIME. BUT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT SHE ARGUES A LOT BECAUSE SHE'S AT THE FIRST STAGES OF DEMENTIA, SO SHE DOESN'T WANT TO HEAR THINGS. AND I TOLD MY, YOU HAVE TO COME TO COURT WITH ME. SHE DOESN'T SAY THAT. SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO COME TO COURT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S THE REASON WHY LAST MONTH I TRIED TO TELL YOU, I TRIED TO GET HER HERE TODAY, BUT AGAIN, SHE SAYS SHE WENT DOWN SOUTH NOW BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT. SORRY. APOLOGIZE. SHE SAID THAT I GAVE HER TOO MUCH HEADACHES BECAUSE SINCE I TRIED NOT TO GIVE A HEADACHE, BUT I TRIED TO. OKAY. AND SHE LEFT TO DANCE WITH MY SISTER. SO THAT'S WHY SHE'S NOT HERE TODAY. OKAY. LAST MONTH, I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE FOR ONE MONTH. YEAH. TODAY'S DATE, AND IT'LL BE ONE CONTINUANCE. AND SHE WOULD HAVE TO BE HERE IF SHE WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE. BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASSUME YOU'RE NOT AN ATTORNEY, CORRECT? NO. I'M NOT. AND YOU CANNOT REPRESENT HER IN THESE PROCEEDINGS. I EVEN CHANGED MY MY LICENSE PLATE TO ME FOR THAT REASON. OKAY. I'M GOING TO SAY THAT YOU'RE OBJECTING TO THE RECORDS, GOING AT THE EVIDENCE, GOING IN THE RECORD, BUT I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO TAKE THE EVIDENCE INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU. YOUR MOTHER'S NOT HERE TO TESTIFY. YOUR TESTIMONY. YOU HAVEN'T. EVEN IF YOU DID TESTIFY. UNLESS YOU YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ANY VALID REASON WHY THIS TICKET WOULD BE SET ASIDE. AND AS SUCH, I'M GOING TO AT THIS POINT, UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO TELL ME. CAN I GET AN APPEAL FORM, PLEASE? THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. THANK YOU. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? I NEED AN APPEAL FOR HIM. YOU WANT ME TO GO? I NEED AN APPEAL FOR HIM. OKAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. I BELIEVE HE'S ASKING FOR AN APPEAL FORM. I'LL APPEAL THAT. THAT. THAT IS THAT THAT IS OUT OF MY HANDS. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE NOTICE IN THE MAIL OF THE DECISION, TODAY'S DECISION. AND THAT WILL SPELL OUT THE PROCEDURES FOR APPEAL. YOU WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO BE ON TIME. THE TIME THAT THAT THE TICKET SAYS THERE WAS NO NO SCHOOL ZONE AT THAT TIME. WELL, THAT WILL BE YOUR APPEAL. BUT IF YOU WILL DO THAT. BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN TODAY. TODAY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE WILL FIND ADJUDICATE THE TICKET AND THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE RECEIVED IN THE MAIL. OKAY. SO SO HOW DO I GET THE PURE FORM IN THE MAIL, SIR? DO YOU GET WHAT? DO I GET THAT APPEAL FORM IN THE MAIL? YOU DON'T GET THAT TODAY. I BELIEVE YOU RECEIVED THAT IN THE MAIL. BUT IT'S NOT REALLY AN APPEAL. BUT IF I GET IT IN THE MAIL, [00:10:06] IT'S NOT REALLY AN APPEAL FORM. IT'S GOING TO BE A NOTICE FOR YOU TO FILL OUT. I BELIEVE I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT INVOLVED WITH THAT. ALL I DO, I MAKE DECISIONS, YOU APPEAL YOU WILL RECEIVE. IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE THOSE APPEAL, PLEASE CONTACT THE CITY AND LET THEM KNOW. THANK YOU. ONE MORE MINUTE. OKAY. JUST TO BE CLEAR I FIND THAT IN NOTICE NUMBER FOUR. THREE. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY AND THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE CITY THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED TICKET IS UPHELD. I ORDERED THAT THAT THE TICKET BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF TODAY'S DATE OF $100 AND NO ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. A FAILURE TO PAY THE TICKET DURING THAT TIME PERIOD MAY MAY RESULT IN THE CASE BEING FORWARDED TO COLLECTION AGENCY. THIS MAY NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 35. RIGHT. YES, SIR. CAN I SPEAK TO YOU, PLEASE? YES. THANK YOU. YES. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. WE'LL CALL THE NEXT CASE. NEXT CASE IS 2030 8000 4746 3883. BEDELL. PETER. YEAH. TAKE OVER FOR ME. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. PLEASE SWEAR I'M IN. SIR, DO YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO, OH, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. PETER. THE DOW BADEL. IT'S A 45 6401 CIRCLE GRANT, FLORIDA. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU WANT WHAT IS IT? IF YOU WANT. OKAY. IS THE CITY READY TO PRESENT? YES. PLEASE PRESENT THE CASE. MY NAME IS. DO YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE OVER THERE, TOO? WE HAVE A MICROPHONE FOR YOU, TOO. IT'S EITHER IT'S ON OR IT'S VERY LONG NOW. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DO APOLOGIZE WHEN EVERYBODY HERE. AND YOU REMAIN SWORN FROM YOUR PREVIOUS SWEARING. YES. THANK YOU. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY? THE CORPORAL IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE MATTER OF THIS HEARING. YES. AND ARE YOU THE CITATION? YES. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THE CITATION? I DO. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM? I APPROVE THEM. I KNOW HOW TO LOOK THEM UP. AND HOW HOW TO KEEP THE RECORDS OF THE CITATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND SO BEFORE US, WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE. CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT CITIES EXHIBIT A IS? IT'S NOT A VIOLATION TO THE ALLEGED OFFENDER. OKAY. AND I SCROLL DOWN AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND PAGE TO EXHIBIT A, CORRECT? YES. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON INTO EXHIBIT B. AND WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A NOTICE OF HEARING LETTER. ALL RIGHT. WITH TODAY'S DATE. PERFECT. AND LET'S MOVE ON TO EXHIBIT C IS THE VIOLATION OF EVIDENCE REPORT. AND WHAT IS IN THE EVIDENCE REPORT? IT'S THE BLOG OF ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD A HAND IN THIS AS AN THE OFFICER WHO APPROVED IT, AND ALL THE ADMINISTRATORS FROM REDZEPI THEMSELVES. RIGHT. AND IT ALSO INCLUDES THE PHOTOGRAPH AND VEHICLE INFORMATION. CORRECT? CORRECT. YOU SCROLL DOWN. YES. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. LET'S MOVE ON INTO EXHIBIT D. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE LOG REPORT SHOWING THAT THE OPERATIONAL TESTS HAVE PASSED AND DATES AND TIMES WHEN THEY WERE PASSED. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN INTO SADIE'S EXHIBIT. AND WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A CERTIFICATION OF CALIBRATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT. THE DEVICE ITSELF. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY? YES. YOUR HONOR, WE WOULD SEEK TO MOVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. [00:15:08] OKAY. I ASKED, YOUR HONOR IF WE WOULD SEEK TO MOVE THIS INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO MOVING THE PACKAGE IN EVIDENCE? ANY LEGAL OBJECTION TO MOVE THE PACKAGE IN EVIDENCE? I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? NOTHING. I'M JUST ASKING YOU. THEY'RE MOVING THE PACKAGE IN EVIDENCE. THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THAT? WELL, I DO. I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY. WHAT WOULD YOUR OBJECTION IS? THE LIGHT WASN'T FLASHING. OKAY. SO THAT'S. THAT'S THAT'S YOUR. THAT WOULD BE YOUR DEFENSE. DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO WHETHER OR NOT THE PACKAGE SHOULD BE MOVED IN EVIDENCE? YEAH. BECAUSE THE LIGHT WAS NOT FLASHING, I WAS GOING EXACTLY 35 MILES AN HOUR. I'M GOING TO ACCEPT THE PACKAGE IN EVIDENCE, AND AND NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TESTIFY? YES. OKAY. I'M READY TO HEAR YOUR TESTIMONY. OKAY. SAME THING I SAID ALREADY. THIS IS DONE. ORDERLY. SO THE LIGHT. OH, HEY. I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN COURT OR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW? YOU KNOW YEAH. I OBEY THE LAWS ALL THE TIME AND EVERYTHING. AND THE LIGHT WAS NOT FLASHING, YOU KNOW? SO I WENT EXACTLY 35 MILES AN HOUR. OKAY. YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S IT. THE SPEED REGISTERED WAS RIGHT ON THIS VEHICLE AT THE TIME, THE SPEED REGISTERED ON THIS VEHICLE WAS WHAT WAS THAT OFFSET? THE SPEED WAS 35MPH AND THE POSTED SPEED WAS 20MPH. OKAY. YEAH. WHEN FLASHING OKAY WITH THE. I SAW THAT THE PACKAGE HAS THE SIGNS WERE POSTED. IT SAYS THE PHOTO ENFORCEMENT SIGNS WERE POSTED. OKAY. AND THE FLASHER TIMES ARE REPORTED AS 345 THROUGH 4:45 P.M.. AND THE TIME OF VIOLATION WAS 4:12 P.M.. OKAY. BESIDES, WHERE THERE'S SOMETHING. DID YOU NOTICE THE SIGNS? YEAH, I SAW THE SIGNS. OKAY. LIKE I SAID, THE LIGHTS WERE NOT FLASHING THE LIGHTS. I ASSUMED THAT, YOU KNOW, REGULAR SPEED LIMIT 35. WELL, THE LIGHTS DO NOT HAVE TO FLASH IF THE SIGNS ARE UP AND THE SIGNS ARE POSTED PROPERLY. SO IF YOU SAW THE SIGNS AND THE LIGHTS WERE NOT FLASHING. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THAT TIME IS NOT ENFORCED. I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE FLASHING THE LIGHTS ARE ONE THING. THE SIGNS OR THE OTHER THING. IF THE SIGNS ARE UP AND THE SIGNS HAVE THE TIMES ON THEM. AND AND IT WAS WITHIN THAT TIME, THEN IT WAS A VIOLATION. WHETHER THE LIGHTS ARE FLASHING OR NOT. OKAY. WELL, WE'LL WE'LL DISCUSS YOUR CASE. IF YOU'RE SAYING I SAW THE FULL 45. NO, I DIDN'T EVEN I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A SCHOOL AT 4:00. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NO INDICATION THERE WAS NO NO PATROLS, NO KIDS, NO NOTHING. YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE SAID AND SAY, OH, WHAT HAPPENED? YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S EXACTLY. IT WAS JUST A REGULAR DAY. NOTHING. NO KIDS, NO PATROL OFFICER, NOTHING. I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS. THE STATUTES AND THE RULES AND THERE'S. AND THE COURT. I HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE STATUTES AND BY THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT STILL SAYS WHEN FLASHING, I UNDERSTAND WHEN FLASHING. BUT THERE'S ALSO SIGNS THAT SAY SCHOOL ZONES. AND WOULD HAVE A DATE OR TIME ON IT, AND THEY WOULD BE PURSUANT TO STATUTE. SO IF THERE'S EVIDENCE IN THE THERE'S A PRESUMPTION. ONCE THE CITY PRESENTS THEIR EVIDENCE, THERE'S A PRESUMPTION THAT IT'S ALL COMPLIED WITH. AND I LOOK, LOOK AT THE PACKAGE AS THEY PRESENT IT. AND THE SIGNS WERE UP AND THE LIGHTS WERE TESTED AND FLASHING. YOU'RE SAYING AT THE TIME, THEY WEREN'T. THAT TESTIMONY ALONE WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TO CARRY IT BECAUSE THE SIGNS ARE STILL THERE. SO THAT'S MISLEADING. I MEAN, I GOT MY WIFE AS A WITNESS. I MEAN, I GOT A PICTURE. IF YOU WANT HER TO TESTIFY, THAT'S FINE. NO, BUT, I MEAN, IT'S IT'S I, I OBEY THE LAW ALL THE TIME. I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE, IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE BEEN GOING THE SPEED LIMIT, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT RIGHT. AND AND I HAVE MY WIFE AS A WITNESS. SHE WOULD HAVE KILLED ME IF I WOULD HAVE BEEN SPEEDING IN A SCHOOL ZONE. ALSO, WE ALL COULD IDENTIFY WITH THAT. OKAY. WITH THAT SAID DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE? THAT'S ALL I GOT. I'M SORRY. I FIND THAT IN NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4746 3883. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE VIOLATION TO BE UPHELD. I ORDERED THAT PETER BEDELL PAY THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED PENALTY OF $100. THAT THE $100 BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF TODAY. OF THE ORDER. NOT TODAY OF THE ORDER. WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE ORDER. THE FAILURE TO PAY THE OUTSTANDING MAY RESULT IN YOUR CASE BEING FORWARDED TO COLLECTION AGENCY. [00:20:03] AND THAT MAY NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES. THIS WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY ADDITIONAL HEIGHTENED INSURANCE OR POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE? I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT. BUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND. LIKE I SAID, IT SAYS WHEN FLASHING. THAT'S VERY SIMPLE, RIGHT? I UNDERSTAND. I WASN'T FLASHING. I UNDERSTAND YOUR DEFENSE AND I UNDERSTAND. YOUR LITTLE PRINT RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW. WHATEVER. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE OTHER PROCESSES AVAILABLE TO YOU. FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, IF YOU WANTED TO AVAIL YOURSELF OF THEM, WHICH IS THE APPEAL PROCESS. OKAY. NOW WE'RE DONE. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. YEAH. I'M SORRY. IT'S TERRIBLE. IT'S TERRIBLE. OKAY. OKAY. NEXT CASE, PLEASE. NEXT CASE IS 2030 8000 4715 4173. LESLIE DE LEON. CRUZ. ORTIZ. YES. CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, YES. OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. MY NAME IS LESLIE ORTIZ, AND ADDRESS IS 1720 CALVADOS DRIVE, COCOA, FLORIDA. THANK YOU. ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? YES. OKAY. PLEASE PRESENT THE CASE. OFFICER. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE COURT. CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON, AND YOU REMAIN UNDER OATH. YES. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, CORPORAL? IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? WHICH IS THE MATTER OF THIS HEARING? I AM, AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN? I AM, YEAH. PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THIS CITATION. I DO. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT? I'M LOOKING AT THE EVIDENCE PACKET. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S START WITH THE CITY'S EXHIBIT A, PLEASE. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN AND WE SEE PAGE TWO OF THAT EXHIBIT A AND LET'S MOVE TO EXHIBIT B. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A NOTICE OF LETTER, OF MYSTERY, OF HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S SCROLL ON TO CITY'S EXHIBIT C, PLEASE. AND WHAT IS THIS FORM? IT'S THE VIOLATION OF EVIDENCE REPORT. AND WHAT IS ON THIS REPORT? IT HAS A LISTING OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE OFFICER WHO APPROVED THE VIOLATION. AND ALSO INCLUDE. DOES IT ALSO INCLUDE THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE VIOLATION EVENT? YES. OKAY. INCLUDES PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE AND THE LICENSE PLATE. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT D. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A LIST OF WHEN THE CAMERA WAS TESTED. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SCROLL TO CITY'S EXHIBIT E IS THE CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. WE WOULD MOVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION TO THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE COMING IN? EVIDENCE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT. JUST LIKE MOVE FORWARD. WELL THEY ARE PRESENTING IT FOR ME TO REVIEW AND FOR THE COURT JUST TO REVIEW. AND IT GOES INTO EVIDENCE IN CASE YOU DO APPEAL THAT THE OTHER COURT COULD SEE WHAT WAS LAID OUT BEFORE THE COURT. OKAY. SO THEY'RE MOVING IT INTO EVIDENCE. THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION? MOVING EVIDENCE. A LEGAL OBJECTION? NO. OKAY, SO SO MOVE IN EVIDENCE. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. THEY HAVE PRESENTED THE CASE. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM ON THEIR CASE? WELL, YEAH. THE THING IS, LIKE, I'M HERE BECAUSE, AGAIN, LIKE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY, LIKE, I'M A VERY CAREFUL DRIVER. I WAS WORKING AT THE TIME, SO I'M VERY AWARE. [00:25:03] AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY RED, LIKE, LIGHT OR ANY FLASHING. SO FOR ME, LIKE, THAT WAS AN INDICATOR THAT WAS LIKE LIKE A THE SCHOOL ZONE TIME WAS IN EFFECT. I DID SEE THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THE SPEED LIMIT OR LIKE THE TIMES FOR THE SCHOOL ZONE IN EFFECT. SO BECAUSE LIKE I WAS WORKING AND I'M LIKE AGAIN, AWARE I DIDN'T AND I DIDN'T SEE LIKE THERE WAS LIKE ANY PATROLS OR LIKE KIDS RUNNING AROUND GOING TO SCHOOL OR ANYTHING IS REALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING. SO I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT. SO FOR ME, I'M LIKE, OKAY, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE THAT I GOT A TICKET WHEN I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT ACTIVITY HAPPENING. OKAY, I'M GOING TO ASK THIS. THE CITY. THIS TICKET WAS GIVEN 710 IN THE MORNING. WHAT TIME DID THE LIGHTS GO ON? VERIFIED TO GO ON AT 7 A.M. AND GO TO 8 A.M.. AND THERE'S A FAILSAFE SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE THE CITY IS NOTIFIED IF THE LIGHT DIDN'T START FLASHING. AND THERE'S NO NOTE OF ANY ANY OF THAT HAPPEN? OKAY. AND THE TESTS CAME BACK. THE THE 24 HOUR TEST BOTH CAME BACK. THEY AND THEY BOTH SAID IT WAS. THEY WERE THEY WERE FUNCTIONAL AT THAT TIME. YES. OKAY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER TESTIMONY YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT? I DO NOT, BUT AGAIN, I'M SORRY. I'M A VERY AWARE DRIVER, SO I'M REALLY UPSET BECAUSE I DID NOT SEE NO FLASH, LIKE FLASHING LIGHT. AND THERE'S, LIKE, SO MANY PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT IT ONLINE. SO I FEEL, IN MY OPINION, THAT THAT SHOULD BE LIKE LOOKED AT BECAUSE OF SO MANY PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT AND GETTING THESE VIOLATIONS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR AT ALL. OKAY. MY OPINION. WELL I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER NO OTHER EVIDENCE PRESENTED. NO. OKAY. I'M SORRY. SO BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE CITY AND THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED. THAT AND I FIND IT IN NOTICE NUMBER 203080004754173. BASED ON TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE THAT THE SCHOOL BE ZONE VIOLATION BE UPHELD. I ORDERED THAT YOU PAY THE SCHOOL SPEEDS ON PENALTY FINE OF $100, THAT THE FINE BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF WHEN YOU RECEIVE THE ORDER. FAILURE TO PAY AGAIN MAY RESULT IN A COLLECTION AGENCY AND MAY AFFECT YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND FACE ADDITIONAL FEES. OKAY. YOU DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO APPEAL, AND YOU'LL BE RECEIVING THAT IN THE MAIL WITH. WITH YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU'RE DONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S SEE. ONE CLOSE. NEXT CASE. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4908 7563. JOAN JOHANSON. OKAY, SO ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? OH. DO YOU PLEASE SWEAR IN THE WITNESS? YOU SWEAR? CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH. AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. JOAN JOHANNESSEN, 4485 ELLIOTT AVENUE, TITUSVILLE. 32780. OKAY, SO, ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? YES, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. PLEASE PRESENT YOUR CASE. THANK YOU. OFFICER. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE COURT, CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND YOU REMAIN UNDER OATH FROM EARLIER. YES. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY? I'M THE CORPORAL IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS HEARING? I AM, AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN? I AM, AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE RECORDS? I AM. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM? I AM LOOKING AT THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION EVIDENCE PACKET IN FRONT OF ME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S WE HAVE A EVIDENCE PACKAGE BEFORE US. LET'S START WITH CITY'S EXHIBIT A WHAT DO WE HAVE? IT'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO ALLEGED OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN. AND THAT IS A TWO PAGE DOCUMENT. CORRECT. LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT B. AND WHAT IS EXHIBIT B? [00:30:08] IT'S A NOTIFICATION OF HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE. EXCELLENT. LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT C. AND WHAT IS EXHIBIT C? IT'S THE VIOLATION EVIDENCE REPORT. AND WHAT IS IN THIS REPORT? IT'S A LIST OF EVERYONE WHO HAD A HAND IN THIS AS AN EMPLOYEE OF READ SPEED. AND THE OFFICER WHO APPROVED THE VIOLATION. AND THERE'S ALSO AND DOES THIS ALSO INCLUDE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC OFFENSE? YES IT DOES. IT HAS THE VIOLATION OF THE VEHICLE. IT ALSO HAS THE TAG. ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT IS THIS FORM HERE? EXHIBIT D IS THE CAMERA LOG REPORT SHOWING THAT IT WAS TESTED. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO CITY'S EXHIBIT E. IS THE CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. PERFECT. AND ARE THESE RECORDS ARE RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. THE CITY WOULD ASK TO MOVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION TO THE EVIDENCE BEING MOVED? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? NO. BUT OKAY. I HAVE SOME. ARE YOU READY TO SAY I'M READY TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY? OKAY. SO I MAY HAVE A VERY UNUSUAL CASE, BECAUSE ON 417, I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. SO I ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT DRIVING THE VEHICLE, AND I GOT A SECOND ONE WITHIN THE WEEK. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT COULDN'T BE SEEN TODAY BECAUSE I HAD APPLIED FOR BOTH TO BE SEEN TODAY. SO ON THE SECOND ONE, I WAS RECOVERING AT MY SON'S HOUSE. SO THE THE ISSUE FOR ME IS I DEFINITELY CAN PROVIDE THE HOSPITAL. I WASN'T DOING VERY WELL. SO MY FAMILY WAS I HAVE EIGHT KIDS, I ADOPTED FOUR, EVERYBODY WAS SCRAMBLING. THEY DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT. MY SON HAD HAD A HEART ATTACK THE WEEK BEFORE. SO IT HIT ME THAT I WAS TAKING CARE OF TWO HOUSEHOLDS AT THE TIME. AND I WOUND UP COLLAPSING, WOUND UP IN THE HOSPITAL. SO FROM 412 TO 419, MAYBE 420, I WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. AND THEN ON THE DATE OF THE SECOND ONE, I WAS RECUPERATING AT MY SON'S HOUSE IN MELBOURNE. THEY SAY THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT ME TO BE ALONE AT THAT TIME. I HAVE ASKED EVERYONE. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M A MOM, AND I'VE BEEN A MOM A LONG TIME. AND NO ONE SAID, HEY, BY THE WAY, I, I HAD THE TRUCK. AND THE THING IS, IS, I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THINGS FROM MY HOUSE FOR ME AND WHATEVER. SO I HAVE TO ABSOLUTELY SAY I'M HORRIFIED ABOUT BOTH THINGS THAT HIT ME BECAUSE WE SURE AS HECK DIDN'T NEED THIS. AND I WOULD HAVE TO ALSO ASK FOR FINANCIAL HELP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME, TAKING CARE OF TWO HOUSEHOLDS AND BOTH OF US BEING IN THE CONDITION WE'RE IN IS A LITTLE HARD. I'M BACK AT WORK ALREADY. I HAVE TWO JOBS. SO I'M TRYING TO GET BACK ON MY FEET. BUT I LITERALLY CAN PROVE I WAS IN A HOSPITAL BED THAT DAY. SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE THE SAME NOW AS THEY WERE WHEN THEY WERE TEN. I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T DO IT. SO I HAVE 20 GRANDCHILDREN AND EIGHT KIDS, AND I DON'T KNOW, I WAS IN SCHOOL, SOMEONE LIKE I KNOW IN AN AREA THAT I DON'T GO IN. YOU KNOW, I'M FROM TITUSVILLE. BUT MY SON DOESN'T HAVE A HOUSE IN PALM BAY. I STAY THERE OCCASIONALLY. THEY'RE ALL VERY GOOD TO ME. BUT ON THIS SITUATION, I PUT IT OUT THERE THAT. HEY, I'M THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO STAND UP. LET ME KNOW. OKAY, SO LET ME SEE IF I UNDERSTAND. YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT AT THAT TIME YOU WERE IN THE HOSPITAL. YES, SIR. THAT THERE WAS NO WAY YOU WERE DRIVING THE VEHICLE. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT YOU COULD NOT IDENTIFY WHO WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME. AND I TRIED. I TRIED BECAUSE THE PICTURE I TRIED TO LOOK AT IT REALLY CAREFUL TO SEE IF I COULD SAY, HEY, DUDE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU. BUT IT'S A IT'S A MALE. ABSOLUTELY. BUT THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF MALES IN MY FAMILY. AND, AND I THE OTHER THING WAS WE WERE HAVING CONSTRUCTION DONE AT THE TIME, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT GUY WOULD TAKE MY KEYS LIKE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. MY KEYS WERE AVAILABLE. I LEAVE EVERYTHING I HAVE TO OPEN TO MY KIDS. I TRUST THEM. NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT IF BUT NOBODY'S SURE IS YOUR VEHICLE. IF I CONTINUE THIS FOR 30 DAYS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO'S WHO DROVE THE VEHICLE? IF I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO'S. BECAUSE YOU'RE THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. AND AS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE, I UNDERSTAND YOUR TESTIMONY. I DON'T YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THE HOSPITAL AT THE TIME. YEAH. I WISH I HAD A LITTLE MORE RECORDS THAN THAT. THAT'S OKAY. BUT THERE WAS NOBODY PRESENTED FORWARD TO WHO WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE. [00:35:03] YEAH. NO, NO. AND I I'VE I'VE TRIED. BELIEVE ME, I TRIED BECAUSE WHEN I GOT I'M, I FREAKED OUT AND I'M LIKE, HEY, I'M GETTING THIS AND IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S THE TRUCK. IRONICALLY, I HAVE DIFFICULTY DRIVING MY TRUCK. THAT'S WHY I HAVE A SECOND VEHICLE NOW, BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO CLIMB UP INTO IT ANYMORE. SO, YOU KNOW, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, IF I CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR 30 DAYS, WOULD YOU FIND OUT OR TRY TO FIND OUT WHO WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE? IF YOU HAVE FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS, YOU'RE THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE AND I IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE DRIVING THE VEHICLE, WE WOULD PREFER THAT THAT PERSON BE HERE TODAY. YEAH. IF YOU COULD FIND OUT WHO THAT PERSON WOULD 30 DAY CONTINUANCE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FIND OUT WHO THAT PERSON WAS? AND THEN, FATHER, I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND THE PERSON THAT REALLY DID IT. THEN I CAN TRY, BUT SO FAR, I HIT A BRICK WALL. SO WHY DON'T WE DO THIS? LET'S CONTINUE TO NEXT MONTH. IF THAT PERSON COMES FORWARD, YOU KNOW YOU'RE ON. I DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU'RE ON THE HOOK, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE EVIDENCE HAS YOU OWNING THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE IN THE SCHOOL IS ON SPEEDING AND NOBODY ELSE BEING NAMED AS THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE. RIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO IF YOU CAN FIND THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE ON FINANCIAL STRAITS, SO MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL STEP FORWARD. YOU KNOW, IT'S A FAMILY MEMBER I HAVE TO ASSUME WOULD STEP FORWARD. HAD TO BE RIGHT. STEP FORWARD AND AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. WHAT HAPPENED? OKAY. SO I'LL CONTINUE THIS FOR 30 DAYS. SEE IF YOU GET FIND OUT THE PERSON THAT DID IT, THEY COULD COME FORWARD AND WE COULD ADJUST THE PAPERWORK FOR THEM TO FIGHT THE TICKET. WELL, THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE THE SAME THING. AND WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THEM TODAY. AND I HAD TO TAKE OFF FROM WORK TODAY. IF YOU'RE A WAY TO, LIKE, MAKE THAT CONTINUANCE HAPPEN. BUT THAT'S ALL I COULD DO AT THIS POINT, IS JUST CONTINUE IT AND PUT ON ANOTHER DATE FOR YOU TO FIND IT OR OR GO FORWARD WITH THE EVIDENCE I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, WHICH I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW. OKAY. I THINK YOU'D PROBABLY PREFER AT LEAST HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND THAT PERSON THAT WAS DRIVING. THAT'S ALL. OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'LL CONTINUE IT. WE'LL CONTINUE THIS HEARING. EVIDENCE IS ALREADY PRESENTED. TESTIMONY IS ALREADY BEING GIVEN. IF THE PERSON COMES FORWARD, THEN WE WILL BRING THAT PERSON AND WE WILL RESTART THE HEARING AGAIN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO THIS WILL BE CONTINUED FOR THE NEXT HEARING DATE IS I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE. NEXT HEARING DATE IS AUGUST 12TH. AUGUST 12TH OF 2025. AUGUST 12TH. YEAH. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. OKAY. YOU CAN CALL THE NEXT CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4824 9276. TIMOTHY. LAWTON. JOHNSON. PLEASE SWEAR I'M IN. LET'S GET THAT ONE. OKAY. LAWTON. APOLOGIES. WAS THAT MORRIS OR JOHNSON? THAT'S NOT MY CALL. AS I SAID. YOU DON'T LIKE JULIE EITHER, SO I'M JUST ASKING, WHICH WE DO. WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T SHOW. TIMOTHY LAWTON. THE CASE NUMBERS 203000 OR CORRECTION, 2030 8000 4824 9276 TIMOTHY LAWTON. OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. TIMOTHY LAWTON, 1995 VALKYRIE ROAD. SIR, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO THANK YOU. CITY READY TO PRESENT. YES, YOUR HONOR. SIR, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE COURT, CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND YOU REMAIN UNDER OATH FROM EARLIER? YES. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY? I'M A CORPORAL IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION INVOLVED IN THIS HEARING? I AM, AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THAT CITATION? YES. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF IT? YES. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT? I HAVE THE NO VIOLATION EVIDENCE PACKET IN FRONT OF ME. [00:40:01] LET'S BEGIN BY RUNNING THROUGH THE EVIDENCE PACKET. WHAT IS THIS IS MARKED AS EXHIBIT A. WHAT IS THIS FORM? IT'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION OF THE PLEDGE OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SCROLL ON TO CITY'S EXHIBIT B. AND WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE NOTIFICATION LETTER OF HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S SCROLL ON TO EXHIBIT C. AND WHAT IS THIS FORM? IT'S A EVANS REPORT. AND WHAT'S INVOLVED IN THE EVIDENCE REPORT HAS THE PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE TAG. AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES HAVE READ SPEED AND THE OFFICER WHO APPROVED THE VIOLATION. WHO HAD A HANDLE ON THIS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S SCROLL ON TO EXHIBIT D. AND WHAT IS EXHIBIT D IS A CAMERA LOG REPORT OF WHEN IT WAS TESTED AND DATES AND TIMES. AND LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT. AND WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. YEAH. SO THE CITY WOULD ASK TO MOVE THE PACKET INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. ANY OBJECTION TO GOING INTO EVIDENCE? YEAH, I THINK THE EVIDENCE IS THAT AS AN EVIDENCE, IT'S JUST EVIDENCE JUST FOR ME TO REVIEW. I THINK IT'S FALSE. OKAY. AGAIN, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE WOULD, WOULD THAT BE. WELL, I SAID I WOULD GO TO YOUR TESTIMONY. THAT'S WHY IF ONCE IT'S IN EVIDENCE, WE CAN REVIEW IT AND GO OVER IT IF YOU WANT. IT'S JUST THAT WAY. YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IT'S FALSE. OKAY. BUT. OKAY. SO ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY BEFORE I MOVE INTO EVIDENCE? FOR THE CITY? YEAH, JUST JUST FOR THE EVIDENCE. DO THEY HAVE A REPORT SHOWING THE SYNCHRONIZATION OF THE TIMES BETWEEN THE CAMERA AND THE FLASHING LIGHTS? WELL, THAT THAT WILL WE'LL GET TO THAT QUESTION. OKAY. SO LET'S SO WE'LL MOVE THE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY. CORRECT. OKAY. PLEASE. JUST THAT OR SOME KIND OF REPORT THAT SHOWS THE TIME SYNC. BECAUSE THE TWO SYSTEMS, FROM WHAT I'VE VERIFIED. THE CAMERA SYSTEM IS WORKING OFF ONE TIME. THE FLASHING SYSTEM IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SYSTEM RUNNING OFF A DIFFERENT TIME. SO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE OUT OF SYNC, THEY'RE OFTEN WHAT? WHAT FORM DO YOU HAVE? WHICH MIGHT I HAVE TO LIST OF ALL THE SCHOOL ZONES IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND THE TIMES WHEN THE FLASHING LIGHTS GO ON? I'VE SEEN THAT SAME REPORT. OKAY. YEAH, ALLEN DONE PROVIDED ME, BUT THAT STILL DOESN'T PROVE THE SYNCHRONIZATION OF THE TWO SYSTEMS. YOU KNOW, THE NETWORK TIME HAS DRIFT. AND COMING FROM EXPERIENCE, I'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE WITH NETWORK TOWER LIGHTS. OKAY. OVER TIME, THE DRIFT CAN ACTUALLY EXCEED A COUPLE OF MINUTES, WHICH, IF THAT'S NOT SYNCHRONIZED CONTINUOUSLY, THE TWO SYSTEMS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE CAMERA SYSTEM COULD BE VIDEOING, THINKING THE FLASHING LIGHTS ARE FLASHING, BUT THEY'RE NOT FLASHING. POSSIBLY. ALL THE OFFICERS WHO ARE ASSIGNED SCHOOL ZONES ARE RESPONSIBLE TO GO OUT THERE. WE WE ALL WENT OUT THERE TO I DID THAT ALSO. YEAH. WE WENT THERE AND VERIFY THE TIMES WHEN THEY STARTED, WHEN THEY FLASHED AND AND I'VE DONE THAT ALSO. I'VE DONE THAT HOLDING MY CELL PHONE, WATCHING THE LIGHT AT 330, SPECIFICALLY WHERE I WAS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO SHUT OFF AT 330. IT SHUT OFF ABOUT 30S AFTER MY CELLULAR TIME. SO THAT TELLS ME 30S, YOU KNOW, A 10 OR 15 CARS COULD STILL BE GOING THROUGH THAT FLASHING ZONE ACTIVE, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ZONES. THERE'S AN INACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE AND AN ACTIVE. SO THE LIGHTS ARE FLASHING. THAT WOULD BE THE SIGN THAT SAYS WHEN FLASHING THE SPEED LIMIT IS 20 MILE AN HOUR. SO EVEN, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MINUTES COULD AFFECT MANY PEOPLE GETTING A FINE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM? YOU COULD PRESENT THE ARGUMENT TO ME. THAT'S THAT'S FINE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THEM? JUST THE THE EVIDENCE ALSO DOESN'T SHOW THE FLASHING LIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ARGUMENT WITH THEM OR, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT THE ARGUMENTS ARE. OKAY. SO DON'T ARGUE WITH THEM. YOU DIDN'T DISCUSS THE CASE IN THAT PHOTO. AND I ALSO HAVE IT HERE FROM MY FOOTAGE. THERE'S THERE'S ZOOMED IN TO WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE THE FLASHING LIGHT. AND THAT'S A VIDEO. IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL PHOTO THEY JUST CAPTURED LIKE I DID HERE. THEY'RE SHOWING A SCREENSHOT FROM A VIDEO BUT NOT SHOWING THE ACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE. THEY'RE JUST SHOWING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SHOWING MY VEHICLE IN A SCHOOL ZONE WHERE I'M DOING 32MPH WHEN ITS SPEED LIMIT COULD BE 45, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTUAL INACTIVE SPEED LIMIT. OKAY. NOW AT THE TIME YOU'RE SAYING THERE WAS NO FLASHING LIGHTS, THERE'S NO FLASHING LIGHTS. [00:45:03] OKAY. AND WHICH WOULD INDICATE WE'RE GOING TO GO NOW WE FALL BACK ON THE SIGNAGE. WAS THERE SIGNAGE AT THE TIME? CORRECT. THERE'S A SIGNAGE THAT SAYS 745 TO 330, WHICH IS THE INACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE TIME WHEN THIS, YOU KNOW, REGULAR SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMIT OF 45. OKAY. SO IT'S A OKAY. THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT SCHOOL ZONES OKAY. THERE'S JUST TWO DIFFERENT SCHOOL ZONES. AND THE TIME THAT YOU WENT THROUGH, WHICH WAS AT THREE, THREE, 37, 27. AND WHAT TIME WAS THE SCHOOL ZONE ENDING? 330 WHICH IS CLOSE ENOUGH THAT DRIFT CAN AFFECT THAT. IS IT IS THERE ANY LEEWAY WITH THE WHEN THE CAMERAS START TO WHEN THEY START FILMING VERSUS I DO NOT KNOW IF IT GOES TO THE SELLER'S TIME OR WHAT. TIME CLOCK. IT GOES OFF OF GOING OFF. I'M SORRY. OKAY. BUT I DID THE SAME THING WITH MY CELL PHONE WHEN I HAD MY ASSIGNED SCHOOL ZONES. I WATCHED MY CELL PHONE. I WATCHED THE TIME TO START AND STOP RIGHT THERE AT 330 OR MY SCHOOL ZONE WAS A COMMUNITY COLLEGE. I LOOKED AT THAT AND IT WENT ON AND OFF WITHIN THAT TIMEFRAME. AND BUT BUT THE SIGNAGE HAD THE HOURS ON IT. CORRECT. THAT'S I'M JUST TRYING. THE HOURS ARE FOR AN INACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE AND MEANING NO FLASHING LIGHTS, RIGHT? AND NOT NOT WHEN THE FLASHING LIGHTS ARE HAPPENING. HAPPY. JUST TO BE CLEAR. FLORIDA LAW REQUIRES THE FLASHING LIGHTS WHEN THERE'S NO POSTED SIGNS. THE FLASHING LIGHTS ARE TECHNICALLY OPTIONAL. NO, THIS FLASHING LIGHTS SAY WHEN FLASHING. SO TECHNICALLY THAT'S TELLING YOU THAT YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE OF 20MPH. BUT THE SIGNS ALSO SAY CORRECT. I'M NOT. I'M NOT GONNA ARGUE WITH YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO JUST PRESENT THE SIGNS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING. OR WHEN THE SCHOOL ZONE IS TECHNICALLY, YOU KNOW, INACTIVE. AS IF THEY'RE NOT BASED ON THE FLASHING LIGHTS. THEY'RE THE REGULAR SCHOOL SCHOOL ZONE SPEED LIMIT, WHICH WOULD BE THE 45MPH. I JUST I'M JUST TRYING TO GO WITH THE STATUTE. TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS, QUITE DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS. EVERY TIME I SAW SOMEONE UP HERE, THIS THIS FAILSAFE. AND THE LIGHTS ARE ONE THING. THE SIGNS ARE THE OTHER THINGS. THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER, TECHNICALLY. THE LIGHTS AREN'T FLASHING. THE SIGNS ARE OFF THE LIGHTS. THE SIGNS STILL CONTROL. NO, I THINK YOU'RE WRONG. BECAUSE THEN. INACTIVE. INACTIVE, INACTIVE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. DO WE HAVE STATUTES OR CASE LAW? YOU COULD PRESENT TO ME THAT THAT SAYS I'M WRONG. IF YOU DO, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT. I'M OPEN FROM WHAT I'M SAYING. THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT THE TIMES CAN BE OUT OF SYNC. YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, 30S OR THREE MINUTES, THEY'RE NOT SHOWING A REPORT SHOWING THAT THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE IN SYNC. I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING IN EVIDENCE THAT SHOWED THAT THAT THERE WERE VERIFYING THE SYNCHRONIZATION OF. I VERIFIED THROUGH THE CITY OF PALM BAY ALLEN DONE THIS THEIR SYSTEM, WHICH THEY PULLED A REPORT FROM. I GOT A COPY OF THAT REPORT THE DAY THAT I WAS GOING THROUGH SHOWED THE TIME, BUT THAT TIME SHOWN DOES NOT SHOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY SYNCHRONIZED WITH THE CAMERA. THE OTHER IT'S TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. I HAD THIS ISSUE WITH TOWER LIGHTS ON AN AIRPORT TOWER NETWORKS 300 FOOT TALL GET CITATIONS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T KICKING OUT THE I FIGURED OUT IT WAS TIME DRIFT AND I HAD TO ACTUALLY GO UP THERE MONTHLY. RE SYNCHRONIZE THE TIMES MANUALLY BECAUSE IT WAS AN OLDER TYPE SYSTEM. ONCE YOU, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU VERIFY THE SYNCHRONIZATION OF THE TWO TIMES, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE COMMUNICATING TOGETHER. NOW IF, IF THERE ARE TWO SYSTEMS WERE COMMUNICATING WITH THE SAME NTP SERVER, WHICH I COULDN'T VERIFY WHEN I, WHEN I SPOKE WITH ALLEN DUNN, HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TIME SERVER THEY WERE WORKING OFF OF BECAUSE NETWORK TIME ACROSS YOUR NETWORK, WHICH I'M SURE YOU HAVE HERE, HITS A NETWORK TIME SERVER. THAT SERVER SYNCHRONIZES THE TIME. I'M GOING TO SAY THEY'RE PROBABLY SMART TO DO IT LIKE AN HOUR BEFORE EVERY SCHOOL ZONE STARTED, JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS SYNCED. BUT IF THE CELLULAR NETWORK THAT READ READ SPEED AND I SPOKE WITH ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WITH READ SPEED HIS NAME IS LUKE, I BELIEVE HIS NAME. EXCUSE ME. YES. YES. SO HE ALSO STATED THEY WERE IN A CELLULAR CELLULAR NETWORK OPPOSITE OF YOUR CITY OF PALM BAY NETWORK FOR THE FLASHERS. SO YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT CELLULAR NETWORKS, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY BE ON TWO DIFFERENT NETWORK TIME SERVERS, WHETHER IT'S NTP OR PREFERABLY IT'S PTP, WHICH IS A PRECISION TIME SYNCHRONIZATION, WHICH WOULD VERIFY THAT THE TWO SYSTEMS ARE IN SYNC TOGETHER. YEAH. NOW, I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT, BUT I NEED PROOFS ALSO THAT THEY WEREN'T SYNCHRONIZED. IF YOU IF YOU MAKE ANY ARGUMENT I DON'T I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR NETWORK. I MEAN I COULD TRY TO GET INTO IT, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO THAT ROUTE EITHER. [00:50:04] ALL I DID WAS WENT THE PROPER ROUTES. YOU KNOW, I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF RUN AROUND AFTER GOING THROUGH THE COUNTY. FINALLY GOT TO THE RIGHT PERSON HERE AT PALM BAY. MR. DUNN THEN ALSO SPOKE WITH LUKE AT RED SPEED, WHO BOTH STATED THE SYSTEMS WEREN'T SYNCHRONIZED. THEY DON'T. TECHNICALLY, THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS THEY WORK ON, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF EACH OTHER OVER DIFFERENT NETWORKS. AS SOMEONE AS A NETWORK ENGINEER KNOWS, TIME HAS TO BE SENT CONTINUOUSLY ON ONE TIME SERVER TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S IN SYNC. SO IF THEY'RE NOT SYNC, YOU'RE SAYING THE LIGHTS WENT FLASH AT THE PROPER TIME? CORRECT. LIKE WITH MY MY TICKET AND MY OTHER TICKETS I SAW UP THERE, THEY HAD POTENTIAL BECAUSE SYNCHRONIZATION WITH NTP OR NTP TIME SERVERS, THEY CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT 17 MINUTES. AND AT THAT POINT THEY DEFAULT AND THEY WON'T SYNCHRONIZE. THE SYSTEM SAYS NO, IT'S TOO FAR OUT OF SYNC. IT WON'T ALLOW IT TO CHANGE. YOU KNOW, THAT MUCH TIME ALL AT ONCE, AT WHICH POINT SOMEONE WOULD PROBABLY ALAN DUNN WOULD HAVE TO LOG IN. BUT IF SEE ALLEN'S, FROM WHAT HE STATED, DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE CAMERA SYSTEM. AND THE SAME WITH LUKE. HE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE FLASHING SYSTEM. SO THOSE TWO SYSTEMS AND THE TWO PEOPLE DON'T COMMUNICATE. YOU DON'T HAVE SOMEONE SYNCHRONIZING OR VERIFYING THAT SYNCHRONIZED TIME. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND I DID EXACTLY WHAT THE OFFICERS DID. I WENT THERE, HELD MY PHONE AND VERIFIED THE TIME IT WAS OFF A LITTLE BIT. BUT UNLESS I'M LOOKING AT THE CAMERA SYSTEM AT THE SAME TIME, I'M LOOKING AT THOSE FLASHERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IN SYNC OR OUT OF SYNC. YOU KNOW, THEY POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M NOT LOGGED INTO THE CAMERA SYSTEM. I'M JUST LOOKING AT A FLASHER AND A CELLULAR TIME ON MY PHONE. WHETHER THAT TIME IS THE SAME AS YOUR CELLULAR PLAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PLAN IS. OR, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER'S CELLULAR NETWORK. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. EVEN FIVE SECONDS COULD ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE DRIVING THROUGH AN ACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE WHEN THE FLASHING LIGHTS AREN'T FLASHING, BUT THE CAMERA THINKS IT IS ACTIVE. AND IS HANDING OUT TICKETS. OKAY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT, I REALLY DO, BUT I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT BEFORE. BUT I HAD TO ARGUE WITH AN AIRPORT AND THAT'S NOT FUN EITHER. NO IT'S NOT. AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT IT'S THE SIGNS OF THE BACKUPS ON THESE THINGS, THESE THOSE THINGS CAN KIND OF COMPLETELY BE GONE. THE FLASHING LIGHTS, THE CAMERAS AND THE SIGNS ARE STILL THERE. YOU'RE STILL VIOLATING THE SCHOOL ZONE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. THE SIGN SAYS WHEN FLASHING, THE ACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE IS 20MPH. SO THE ONLY TIME THAT IT'S 20MPH IS WHEN THAT YELLOW LIGHT IS FLASHING. WHEN I DRIVE THROUGH AND IT'S NOT FLASHING. NOW, THE SPEED LIMIT IS THE 20 OR 45 MILE AN HOUR, WHICH IS THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT. OKAY. AND I HAVE PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE, WHICH MEANS THEY SHOW ME THAT ALL THE LIGHTS WERE TIMED. I SAW THE SAME REPORT I HAD IT SENT TO ME. BUT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE TIME, ONE ASPECT OF IT VERSUS THE CAMERA NOT LOOKING AT THE CAMERA AND YOU'RE NOT SEEING IT AT THE SAME YOU HAVE AND YOU HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THE CAMERA WAS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR SYSTEMS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT'S WHERE THESE CIRCULAR ARGUMENTS ARE GOING TO START COMING IN. WELL, I MEAN, I BOUNCED AROUND OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TRYING TO GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON BEFORE I FINALLY DID GET TO THE RIGHT PERSON. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S BUT THE PROBLEM IS I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE STATUTES AGAIN. I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE EVIDENCE. I GOT THE ANSWER FROM ONE PERSON FROM READ READ SPEED THAT SAID, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VIDEO OUTSIDE OF THE SCHOOL ZONE BECAUSE A REAL EASY FIX TO THIS. GRANTED, I DON'T I DON'T THINK SCHOOL ZONES ARE CAMERAS ARE BAD. I JUST THINK THEY NEED TO WORK. AND IF THEY JUST SHOWED THAT RED OR YELLOW LIGHT FLASHING IN THE VIDEO LIKE I EVEN WENT UP. THIS IS THEIR CLIP WHICH IS ON THERE. OKAY, THIS IS ME ON A LADDER WITH MY PHONE RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR CAMERA ON A CAR GOING BY AND YOU CAN SEE IF THEY JUST ZOOMED OUT A LITTLE BIT, THEY WOULD GET THE FLASHING LIGHT IN THEIR VIDEO. THEY WOULD GET THE PLATE THAT THEY NEED. NO BRAINER. YOU DON'T EVEN SEE ME. AND PROBABLY HALF THESE PEOPLE HERE, IF, YOU KNOW, IF I LOOKED AT THE VIDEO AND SAID, OH, THE LIGHTS FLASHING, I DON'T KNOW HOW I MISSED THAT, I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TESTED IT. AND I'M GOING TO GUESS, BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING ISSUES SAYING THERE'S NO FLASHING LIGHT THERE IN THAT SAME SMALL TIME WINDOW, LIKE THE ONE GAL SHE WAS, I THINK SEVEN, TEN, TEN MINUTES OUT OF SYNC. AND LIKE I SAID, OVER A MONTH'S TIME, MY TOWER LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, NEAR THIS AIRPORT WOULD GO OUT 15 MINUTES, LIKE I WOULD LITERALLY EVERY MONTH DO A PM AND ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO AND MANUALLY CHANGE THE TIME, YOU KNOW, BACK TO WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. IT WAS AN OLDER SYSTEM, GRANTED, AND THERE WAS MUCH MORE DRIFT, [00:55:04] BUT IT STILL HAD TO BE DONE UNTIL I GOT MY OWN NTP SERVER INSTALLED IT PUT A NEWER LED TYPE SYSTEM. POINTED IT AT IT DAILY TO MAKE SURE IT'S AUTOMATICALLY SYNCING DAILY. RIGHT. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE YOU WANT TO PRESENT? SO THE ONLY OTHER EVIDENCE IS THEIR LACK OF EVIDENCE. LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING. ON THIS ON HERE IT STATES THE RECORDED IMAGES RELATING TO THE VEHICLE STATED ABOVE ARE EVIDENCE OF THE VIOLATION. IT'S PROVING I WAS DOING 32 MILES AN HOUR IN A 45. SO REALLY, I WASN'T SPEEDING. THERE'S NO FLASHING LIGHTS. THE VIDEO DOESN'T SHOW IT. I'M SAYING I UNDERSTAND. I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR TESTIMONY. AND I GOT YOU LAID A RECORD DOWN. AND IF I CAN'T FIX THE WORLD IN MY LITTLE POSITION, I'M IN. IF YOU FEEL. BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE THE CITIZENS PROVING YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD BE SHOWING PROOF THAT IF THE IF THE CITY COMPLIES WITH THE STATUTES AND COMPLIES WITH THE LAW AND WHAT WAS LAID OUT BY THE LEGISLATION, WHICH THEY HAVE BY THEIR PACKAGE, HAVE SHOWN ME THAT THEY HAVE COMPLIED. THE SIGNS THAT SHOWS THE SIGNS OF THE LIGHTS ARE TESTED EVERY NIGHT FROM WHAT THEY PRESENTED IN THEIR PACKAGE, THINGS LIKE THAT. I HAVE TO STICK WITH WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS AND WHAT I'M OBLIGATED TO DO. SO IF YOU IF YOU HAVE A TEST, IF YOUR TESTIMONY IS NOT PART OF THIS RECORD, IF YOU DECIDE TO APPEAL IT, IT'S GOING TO GO TO A CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE. I'M AN ADMINISTRATIVE JUDGE. I, I ONLY DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A VIOLATION OR NOT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENT ME. THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE WILL THEN LOOK AT IT AND DECIDE ON YOUR ARGUMENT. BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE, I DON'T HAVE THAT EVIDENCE IN FRONT OF ME THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO. YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU HAVE THERE. DO I UNDERSTAND WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR EVIDENCE IS SHOWING THE STATUTES CORRECTLY. THE STATUTES DON'T STATE THE THE STATUTES STATE THAT THE FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT IDENTIFIES AN ACTIVE SCHOOL ZONE. RIGHT. BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT. SO BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF ME, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO FIND THE VIOLATION AND GO FORWARD FROM THERE. OKAY. SO LET'S LET'S DO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT? OKAY. I FIND THAT IN NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4824 9276. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT THE SCREWS ON VIOLATION BE UPHELD. THEY ORDERED YOU TO PAY $100 FEE. THAT THE FINE BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS? FAILURE TO PAY THE OUTSTANDING FINE PROVIDED MAY RESULT, IN YOUR CASE, MEANINGFUL TO COLLECTION AGENCY, WHICH MAY AFFECT YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND ADD ADDITIONAL FEES. YOU WILL HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL FROM THE DATE OF MY FROM THE DATE THAT YOU RECEIVED THE DECISION, WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE IN A DAY OR TWO. AND IT'LL BE A WHOLE PROCEDURE SPELLED OUT THERE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A RECORD. THIS IS WHY I WANTED YOU TO MAKE YOUR RECORD. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE CORRECT A CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE COULD LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE, AND MAYBE TRIED WITH YOU. I DO HAVE RECORD OF IT. IT'S ON VIDEO. IT'S BEING. IT'S BEING RECORDED. OKAY. PERFECT. IT'S BEING RECORDED. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I JUST WHEN YOU STATE IT CAN'T BE A CREDIT REPORT VIOLATION OR HIT ON YOUR CREDIT, DOES IT AFFECT YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE? NO, IT DOES NOT. THERE'S NO POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE, AND IT DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR INSURANCE BY STATUTE. OKAY. SO THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE. ALL RIGHT. SO IT'S JUST A PERSONAL THING. IT'S JUST A PERSONAL THING. OKAY. COOL. OKAY. WELL, YOU YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MIGHT BEHOOVE YOU TO GET VIDEO OF THE ACTUAL YELLOW LIGHTS. IT MIGHT BE A SUGGESTION TO THE CITY THAT THAT THEY COULD BRING TOO MUCH SENSE. ADJUSTMENT OF THE CAMERA WOULD FIX THAT. I JUST LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. SO THE CITY HAS TO PUT IT TOGETHER. WELL. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. AND THE REST OF THE MONTH. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. OH, DEFINITELY. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. I GOT A LOUD VOICE. SO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL THE NEXT CASE, PLEASE? [01:00:02] CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4797 5349. PAUL MOSS. SIR, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? I DO. OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. PAUL MOSS. AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. 3305 GRANT ROAD, GRANT, FLORIDA. THANK YOU. AS THE CITY READY TO PRESENT. YES, YOUR HONOR. OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE COURT. CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON, AND YOU REMAIN UNDER OATH. YES. WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY? CORPORAL? IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE BASIS OF THIS HEARING. YES. OKAY. AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR IT? YES. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE RECORDS? YES. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THEM? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. OKAY. LET'S START WITH THE EVIDENCE PACKET. IT'S MARKED AS EXHIBIT A. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? IT'S THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION FOR THE ALLEGED OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT AND GET CLOSER TO PEOPLE. NO, I CAN SEE YOU CAN MAKE IT RIGHT TO EXHIBIT D. AND WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR EXHIBIT B IS THE NOTIFICATION OF HEARING FOR TODAY'S DATE. OKAY. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT C. THAT'S THE VIOLATION EVIDENCE REPORT. AND WHAT IS IN EXHIBIT C. IT HAS ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE OFFICER WHO IMPROVED THE VIOLATION ALONG WITH THE PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE AND TAG. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO CITY'S EXHIBIT D. AND WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE IS THE LOG REPORT OF WHEN IT WAS TESTED. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT E. AND WHAT IS THIS. IS THE CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, WE WISH TO MOVE THE PACKET INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. MR. MOSS, ANY OBJECTION TO BE MOVED INTO EVIDENCE? NO. THANK YOU. PACKAGE. THIS IS OUR MOVING EVIDENCE. MR. WALLACE, BEFORE YOU TESTIFY, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? YES. I'M SORRY. I HAVE TWO OF THEM. OKAY. FIRST QUESTION PLEASE. SO AS OF JULY 2025. DID PALM BAY CURRENTLY SUSPEND THE CAMERAS? OKAY. BECAUSE I'M SHOWING THAT YOU DID. AND IT LOOKS AS IF IT WAS PAUSED IN FEBRUARY OF 2025 DUE TO GLITCHES AND INACCURATE VIOLATIONS. AND THEN AGAIN IN MAY 2025. SO THE QUESTION IS, IS IT CURRENTLY SUSPENDED? THE PROGRAM IS CURRENTLY ON PAUSE, WAITING TO SEE HOW ADMINISTRATION THE CITY SHOULD PROCEED. OKAY, SO IT'S NOT SUSPENDED. YEAH, IT WAS SUSPENDED. I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD IT BE SUSPENDED AT THE TIME YOUR TICKET WAS ISSUED? CORRECT? WOULD THAT BE YOUR QUESTION? WELL, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IS IT CURRENTLY SUSPENDED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'M SEEING SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT, LIKE IT'S. OH, I'M SORRY, I CAN SHOW YOU. OKAY. IF YOU WANT TO PUT THIS INTO EVIDENCE. ONE SECOND. WHAT DOES THE CITY DO FEBRUARY TIME? IT SAYS AS OF JULY 2025, THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS IN PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ARE CURRENTLY SUSPENDED AND ARE NOT ACTIVELY ISSUING TICKETS DUE TO PREVIOUS ISSUES WITH ACCURACY AND A CONTRACTOR'S PERFORMANCE. THE CITY IS WORKING WITH THE VENDOR RED SPEED USA TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS AND ENSURE SYSTEMS RELIABILITY BEFORE POTENTIALLY REACTIVATING THE PROGRAM. IT LOOKS AS IF THE PALM BAY SCHOOL ZONE RED CAMERA PROGRAM WAS FIRST PAUSED IN FEBRUARY 2025 DUE TO GLITCHES AND INACCURATE VIOLATIONS. AND THEN AGAIN IN MAY 2025, AT LEAST THROUGH THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR. OKAY, NOW THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE FOR THE RECORD? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S ON THE NO. I MEAN, WHAT WEBSITE ARE YOU CITING? SPECTRUM NEWS. I'M SORRY. SPECTRUM NEWS. SPECTRUM NEWS. OKAY. AND DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE? FIRST PAUSE IN FEBRUARY, DUE TO GLITCHES THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AND WE ADDRESSED THOSE GLITCHES. THE PROGRAM WENT BACK ACTIVE AFTER WE INSPECTED EACH OF THE SCHOOL ZONES TO ENSURE THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE FLASHER TIMES WERE AS WAS REPORTED, BECAUSE THERE WAS A MISREPORTED TIMES ON A COUPLE OF SCHOOL ZONES. OKAY. THIS WAS AFTER THEY WENT BACK LIVE, THIS VIOLATION. THE WE PAUSED THE PROGRAM DUE TO FINDING OTHER DISCREPANCIES WITH VIOLATIONS, BUT THOSE WERE DISMISSED RIGHT BEFORE THEY EVEN EVEN COME TO THIS LEVEL. OKAY. HOW, AS A CITIZEN, CAN I TRUST THAT? AND THEN I HAVE MORE. I HAVE MORE TO PAY. WELL, LET'S LET'S DO IT THIS WAY. [01:05:02] OR IF YOU HAVE OTHER EVIDENCE, PLEASE PUT IT ON THE RECORD ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. RIGHT. EVEN BEFORE WE CAME IN HERE, WE ALL WERE HAVING TECH ISSUES. WELL, LET'S TALK TO EACH OTHER ONE AT A TIME. SO THE RECORD'S NOT MUDDLED. SURE. OKAY. THEY ARE THE CITY. THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEIR THEIR PROGRAMS ARE ACTIVE, AND IT WAS ACTIVE AT THE TIME THAT YOU WERE ISSUED THE SUMMONS FOR THE THE VIOLATION. I UNLESS THE PROGRAM IS SUSPENDED RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE THE CITY. I'M ASKING YOU. OH, I'M. I AM A ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE. I, BASED UPON EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO ME, THEIR EVIDENCE PRESENTED. YOU GOTTA LET ME TALK. YOU TALK? SURE. I'M GOING TO LET YOU TALK, SO DON'T WORRY. THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED TO ME IS THAT IT'S AN ACTIVE PROGRAM, AND IT'S BEEN ACTIVE. WAS ACTIVE AT THE TIME THAT YOUR VIOLATION WAS ISSUED. THAT THAT'S THE EVIDENCE I HAVE. YOUR EVIDENCE, TOO, IS IS IS A WEBSITE. THIS IS I'M GETTING IT'S SPECTRUM NEWS. AND IN FACT, THERE'S EVEN MORE NEWS THAT ARE INVOLVED. OKAY. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. ISN'T NEWS WRONG OR YOU ARE WRONG. I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO HEARSAY, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT I HAVE TO. IT'S IT'S MONEY. I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE PUTTING YOU'RE PUTTING STOCK INTO THAT. CORRECT. AND BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO PROVE THAT STATEMENT EITHER THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO ME. AND WHAT TIME ARE THE SCHOOL ZONES. WHAT WHAT TIME IS THE SCHOOL ZONE? WELL, IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, I HAVE PLEASE, PLEASE GO BACK AND FORTH AND UNTIL THE. OKAY, I WANT TO ASK HIM A QUESTION. PLEASE ASK HIM A QUESTION. I JUST WANT TO KEEP IT ORDERLY SO IT'S NOT MUDDLED. BUT YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION. I DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. I DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS IF THE CITY THE CITY ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS. WHAT'S YOUR FIRST QUESTION? A CURRENT CURRENTLY JULY 2025. THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED CAMERAS ARE SUSPENDED. IS IT SUSPENDED? YES. CURRENTLY. OKAY, SO THE VIOLATION. IT WAS ACTIVE. SO IT IS SUSPENDED. AND THERE'S REASONS IT'S SUSPENDED. AND I CAN GO INTO DETAIL. I CAN READ IT AGAIN, BUT THERE'S REASONS WHY IT'S SUSPENDED. SORRY. I KEEP HITTING THAT MICROPHONE. THE NEXT THING. YEAH. SORRY. I USE THE MOTION. YEAH. IT LOOKS LIKE A YOU ALL Y'ALL DO A MOTION TO. IT LOOKS LIKE A NORTHERN THING, SO DON'T WORRY. SURE. THE NEXT THING IS, WHAT TIME WAS THE SCHOOL ZONE? PERIOD? THE SCHOOL ZONE FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE PARKWAY FOR PALM BAY ACADEMY IS 3:45 P.M.. THE 4:45 P.M.. OKAY, THAT IS WRONG, BECAUSE I HAVE THE PICTURE THAT STATES DIFFERENT. OKAY. COULD YOU SHOW ME THE PICTURE? I CAN'T. OKAY, WELL, DO ME BEFORE YOU SHOW IT TO ME. SHOW IT. LET LET THE CLERK SHOW IT TO THE CITY, AND THEN I WILL SEE IT AFTER THE CITY HAS A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. THAT IS THE TIME OF WHEN THE COMPLETE ENFORCEMENT IS OF WHEN THE START AND FINISH OF THE PROGRAM IS NOT OF WHEN THE SCHOOL ZONE FLASH, WHEN ITS ACTIVE, OF WHEN IT IS ACTIVE, AS IN WHEN ISSUING CITATIONS IS THAT TIME, BUT AS THE SCHOOL ZONE FLASHER TIMES. WELL THERE'S NO THERE'S NO FLASHER ON THAT ROAD. I WENT AND TOOK PICTURES. OKAY. LET ME JUST FOR THE RECORD, I KNOW WE ALREADY WENT FOR THE RECORD, I'VE BEEN GIVEN A CELL PHONE WITH A PICTURE OF A SIGN. WHERE WAS THAT SIGN LOCATED IN THIS PICTURE? SO I UNDERSTAND FOR THE RECORD, IT'S ON THAT ROAD, BUT THERE'S STICKERS OVER IT. PLEASE. WHAT'S THAT ROAD? I I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU IF YOU APPEAL THIS. SORRY. IT'S ON EASTERN STATE. FLORIDA ROAD SAID THAT WOULD BE E COMMUNITY COLLEGE PARKWAY. OKAY. AND IN THE IN THE SIGN IT SAYS SPEED LIMIT PHOTO ENFORCE THE TOP. JUST TWO SIGNS ON ONE PHONE. THE BOTTOM SAYS 8:45 A.M. TO 4:45 P.M.. PM. CORRECT. AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THERE'S STICKERS ON IT. SO WHEN WERE THOSE STICKERS PUT ON IT? IT'S COVERING THE ORIGINAL SO IT'S CHANGED. WHAT WOULD IT BE? I MEAN, IS IT YOUR TESTIMONY THAT THE TIME YOU DROVE THROUGH THAT WAS NOT THE TIME POST? I DON'T THINK IT WAS. NO, THAT'S WHY I ASKED. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ANY. I NEED YOU TO SHOW ME PROOF OF WHEN YOU PUT THOSE STICKERS ON, BECAUSE YOU COULD CHANGE IT THE NEXT DAY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THE CITY HAS SHOWN A PRIMA FACIE CASE OF OF YOUR CASE? THEY HAVE SHOWN THE PACKAGE SAYING THE SIGNS WERE PROPERLY POSTED. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT IS THAT THE STICKERS ARE ON THE SIGN. THE STICKERS. IT'S STILL WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD THAT YOU'RE THAT YOUR TICKET WAS ISSUED. I DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE THE STICKERS WEREN'T PEELED OFF. NO, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THE STICKERS THAT ARE SHOWN ON YOUR YOUR EVIDENCE ARE WITHIN THAT TIME PERIOD, CORRECT? OKAY. BECAUSE I WENT I DIDN'T GET THE MAIL FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS OF WHEN I WAS TO GET THIS TICKET. AND YOU'LL NOTICE, WHEN I WENT TO LOWE'S, I CAME BACK. IT'S ALL IN THE SAME DAY WITHIN A HALF HOUR. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT PALM BAY ACADEMY, THERE WAS NOT ONE CAR ON THE ROAD. IN FACT, THERE WAS NO CARS. EVEN IN THE PARKING LOT OF THE SCHOOL, IT WAS COMPLETELY EMPTY. IF YOU COULD PULL UP THOSE CAMERAS, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT TOO. [01:10:02] AND DURING THAT TIME, YOU'LL SEE I'M A SAFE DRIVER. NEVER BEEN TO JAIL. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE. AND JUST TO GET TWO OF THEM. COME ON. AND THEN YOU'RE SUSPENDING IT. I MEAN, YOU'RE SUSPENDING IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT WORKING, OKAY? MR. MOSS, ANY OTHER THING? I JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD, PLEASE. I THINK THAT'S PLENTY OF EVIDENCE. YEAH, WELL, I, I COULD ONLY GO WITH THE EVIDENCE THAT'S PRESENTED, AND AND THE AND IT'S THE CITY DID PRESENT THE PRIMA FACIE CASE. IT WAS A VIOLATION. I THINK YOU PRESENTED EVIDENCE THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A CHANGE OF THE SIGN AND MAYBE NOT. YOU WANT THE SUSPENSION PROGRAM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T WORK, AND I AND THAT'S THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED. AND THAT'S PART OF YOUR RECORD, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. BUT BASED UPON WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, I WOULD HAVE TO UPHOLD THE TICKET AT THIS TIME. I FEEL LIKE IT'S ONE SIDED. NOBODY HAS A CHANCE HERE. EVEN WITH ALL THE INFORMATION, YOU ALL SUSPENDED THE PROGRAM. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. FROM A CITIZEN SIDE, YOU ALL ARE. SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN SPEED NOW AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT. BUT THE ONES THAT YOU ALL ACTUALLY DID IT. AND THE TECHNOLOGY WE CAN SEE WASN'T WORKING CORRECTLY OR YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SUSPENDED IT, BUT YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GIVE US TICKETS. THAT THAT MAKES NO SENSE. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 30 DAYS TO APPEAL THIS DECISION. THAT'S WHY AGAIN, I LET YOU YOU KNOW, I'LL LET YOU MAKE A RECORD. BUT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT GOES TO A HIGHER COURT THAT MAY BE ABLE TO SUSPEND THE PROGRAM. MAYBE NOT. ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGES CAN ONLY UPHOLD OR OR NOT UPHOLD THE VIOLATION CAN MAKE THE DECISION TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? PALM BAY. WE GOT IT WRONG, AND YOU DID, OR YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SUSPENDED IT. I WELL, CORRECT. I DON'T I MEAN, I'M NOT PUTTING YOURSELF IN MY SHOES. I UNDERSTAND. NO, NO, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. SO YOU'RE YOU'RE COOL WITH IT. YOU'RE YOU'RE OKAY WITH THEM SUSPENDING IT AND STILL ISSUING TICKETS TO PEOPLE THAT WORK REALLY HARD. AND IF YOU LOOK AT MY SPEED LIMIT, I WAS THERE. I YOU RIGHT THROUGH. YOU GO THROUGH THERE. LET'S GO THERE RIGHT NOW AT 345. AND YOU TELL ME HOW MANY CARS ARE IN THE PARKING LOT OF THAT SCHOOL ZONE. I'M TELLING YOU, YOU'RE WRONG. OKAY? OKAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO HOLD THIS TICKET, OKAY? PLEASE. AND WE'LL DO YOUR NEXT CASE AFTER THIS. BUT LET'S GET THROUGH THIS ONE, OKAY? AND SHOULD I FIND IT IN NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4797 5349. BASED ON THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT THE SCHOOL BE ZONE VIOLATION BE UPHELD. I FIND THAT YOU PAY THE $100 WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ORDER. THAT IF YOU DO NOT PAY, IT CAN RESULT IN GOING TO A COLLECTION AGENCY, WHICH WHICH MAY NEGATIVELY AFFECT YOUR CREDIT RATING AND MAY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR CREDIT. PERFECT CREDIT AND HOPEFULLY WILL STAY THAT WAY. THIS WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR DRIVING RECORD, NOR GIVE POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE OR AFFECT YOUR INSURANCE. YOU WOULD HAVE THREE DAYS TO APPEAL THE DECISION IN THE MAIL. OKAY. YEP. OKAY, SO GIVE ME ONE MINUTE AND THEN WE'LL GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE. I HOPE YOU CAN. AND IF THIS WAS YOU, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN. IT'S WRONG. I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD SUSPEND A PROGRAM. THAT'S IF IT'S PERFECTLY WORKING. MAKES NO SENSE. OKAY. I MEAN, I JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO ANSWER THAT FOR ME. WHY WOULD WE SUSPEND SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING PERFECTLY WORKS? LET'S START THE NEXT CASE AND WE'LL TALK. OKAY. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4797 5447. MR. PAUL MOSS REMAINS UNDER OATH. OKAY. PLEASE. JUST PREVIOUSLY SWORN IN. CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? PAUL MOSS. OKAY. OKAY? I MEAN, IF I KNEW THERE WAS A WAY. SURE. SORRY. GO AHEAD. I SEE THIS TICKET WAS GIVEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER. THE OTHER TICKET. CORRECT? CORRECT. AROUND THE SAME TIME PERIOD, I WAS SEVEN MINUTES APART. CORRECT. BECAUSE I WENT TO LOWE'S. AND IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN, I WOULDN'T HAVE. BASED UPON THAT, THE TICKETS WERE GIVEN VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER THAT I'M GOING TO DISMISS THIS TICKET. OKAY. NO, I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU RECEIVED THE FIRST TICKET. [01:15:05] I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SECOND TICKET WAS VERY CLOSE IN TIME. I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD. YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A TICKET IN BETWEEN AND YOU GOT NOTICE OF IT, I WOULD. I WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, SEVEN MINUTES APART. I'M GOING TO DISMISS THE SECOND TICKET. OKAY. OKAY. SO THE CITY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PRESENT ANY CASE. I'M JUST GOING TO DISMISS THE TICKET OUT. RIGHT? CORRECT. OKAY. I SEE. SAID, SO. HOLD ON A MINUTE. SO BASED UPON MY DECISION, NOTICE NUMBER 2030800047974. I'M SORRY. STRIKE THAT 2030 8000 4797 5447 IS DISMISSED. YOU HAVE NO FURTHER ACTION. YOU NEED TO TAKE ON THIS TICKET. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. OKAY. SO. OUR NEXT CASE RUNNING CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4867 1380. ALEXIS TILLMAN. WHAT WAS THAT NAME AGAIN? ALEXIS. TILLMAN. TILLMAN. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M SORRY, WAS THE NAME OF THE CASE AGAIN? I'M SORRY. I'M LOOKING FOR ALEXIS TILLMAN. ALEXIS. OKAY. OH, YEAH. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. ALEXIS, CAN YOU PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? YES, I DO. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. GOOD MORNING. I'M ALEXIS TILLMAN. ADDRESS, PLEASE. OH, SORRY. 822 BROW COURT, NORTHEAST IN PALM BAY, FLORIDA. OKAY. SO, ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? YES, YOUR HONOR. PLEASE PRESENT YOUR CASE AND YOUR PREVIOUSLY SWORN IN. OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF. CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND WHAT DO YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF THE CORPORAL WITH THE TRAFFIC UNIT? AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION FOR THIS HEARING. YES. AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THIS CITATION? I AM, YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING IT? YES. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE EVIDENCE AND PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME? ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S START WITH THE FIRST PAGE. THIS IS EXHIBIT A. WHAT IS THIS PAGE? IT'S THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION TO THE ALLEGED OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO THE CITY'S EXHIBIT B. AND WHAT IS THIS? YOU SEE NOTIFICATION OF THE HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LET'S SCROLL TO THE CITY'S EXHIBIT C. AND WHAT IS ON THIS PAGE IS THE EVIDENCE REPORT. INCLUDE PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE, THE TAG, AND LISTING ALL THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, INCLUDING THE OFFICER WHO APPROVED THE VIOLATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO THE NEXT SECTION, WHICH WILL BE CITY'S EXHIBIT D. AND WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE CAMERA LOG REPORT TO SHOW WHEN THE SYSTEM WAS TESTED. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO THE FINAL EXHIBIT. EXHIBIT E AND WHAT IS THIS? YOU SEE CERTIFICATE OF CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. PERFECT. AND ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. THE CITY WOULD SEEK TO MOVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE PACKAGE OF EVIDENCE? NO. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? NO. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHAT WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. I WAS TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT WENT ON THAT DAY FROM THE DATE ITSELF. I'M A GRADUATE STUDENT AT FLORIDA TECH. I'M A THERAPIST, ALSO AT CIRCLES OF CARE. AND FROM WHAT I REMEMBER, I BELIEVE THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A PATIENT IN CRISIS, WHICH IS WHY I WAS KIND OF SPEEDING WHEN I'M NOT NORMALLY SOMEONE WHO EVER SPEEDS. I'VE NEVER RECEIVED ANY TICKETS VIOLATIONS. MY RECORD IS COMPLETELY CLEAN. NEVER CAUSED ANY CAR ACCIDENTS OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES. JUST A STUDENT JUST TRYING TO GET BY. AND THAT $100 DEFINITELY KIND OF EATS INTO THE GROCERY FUND. [01:20:05] AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I LEARNED FROM. AND WHENEVER I'M PASSING A SCHOOL AT THIS POINT, I'M REMINDED OF THIS INCIDENT. SO I FEEL LIKE I'VE DEFINITELY LEARNED FROM THIS EXPERIENCE. AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT REPEAT ITSELF IN THE FUTURE. I JUST WANTED TO, I GUESS, PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT THE REASON MIGHT HAVE BEEN FOR THAT SPEEDING, BECAUSE I'VE NEVER I DON'T TYPICALLY SPEED. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I DO. I'M VERY CAUTIOUS WHEN I DRIVE. OKAY. WHEN YOU SAY PATIENTS IN CRISIS, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I'M AT CIRCLES OF CARE. IT'S A PATIENT CRISIS STABILIZATION CENTER, SO PATIENTS GO THERE. IF THEY'RE WANTING TO HARM THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, THEY'RE SOMETIMES BROUGHT IN FROM POLICE OR HOSPITALS. SO. AND WE'RE VERY SHORT STAFFED. THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF US THAT WORK FOR FOUR DIFFERENT UNITS. SO WE'RE VERY SPREAD THIN. SO I'M TRYING TO THINK MAYBE THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I MIGHT HAVE BEEN SPEEDING TO WORK. YEAH. AND WHAT DO YOU DO THERE? WE PROVIDE STABILIZATION. SO IF PATIENTS ARE DEALING WITH SUICIDAL IDEATION OR HOMELESSNESS OR DRUG ABUSE, ANY MENTAL HEALTH DIFFICULTIES, WE PROVIDE THERAPY WITH THEM. GROUP THERAPY AND INDIVIDUAL THERAPY, PROVIDING TREATMENT PLANS CREATING SUICIDE PREVENTION PLANS AS WELL. OKAY. OKAY. DID YOUR TESTIMONY THAT THAT MORNING YOU WERE GOING THERE TO ATTEND A PATIENT IN CRISIS? I BELIEVE SO. OKAY. OKAY. HAVE YOU HAD ANY OTHER SPEEDING TICKETS OR SCHOOL ZONE TICKETS SINCE THAT TIME PERIOD? NO. I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A SPEEDING TICKET, ESPECIALLY IN A SCHOOL ZONE. AND WHAT IS YOUR JOB TITLE AT CIRCUS CARE? I'M A PRACTICUM CLINICIAN. I'M A DOCTORATE STUDENT AT FLORIDA TECH, SO I'M JUST WORKING THERE, MAKING PENNIES, JUST PROVIDING SERVICES TO WORK UP SOME HOURS TO APPLY FOR RESIDENCY. YEAH, I ALWAYS SAY IT WAS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT YOU BELIEVE YOU WERE TAKING CARE OF THAT MORNING. I BELIEVE SO. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS CLEAR THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR SWORN TESTIMONY IS. OKAY. OKAY. I'M GOING TO. DO THE CITY HAVE ANY REBUTTAL OR ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? I MEAN, I WOULDN'T HAVE A LEVEL, RIGHT? I WOULDN'T I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY REBUTTAL TO HER. YOU KNOW, TO HER CLAIMS, YOUR HONOR. NO. YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY I SAID I WOULD NOT HAVE ANY WAY TO REBUT HER CLAIM. OF COURSE. OKAY. I COULDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'D ALL BE PROTECTED BY HIPAA. ANYWAY, SO I'M GOING TO TAKE HER TESTIMONY IS TRUE. I'M GOING TO ONCE IN A WHILE. I BELIEVE EMERGENCIES ARE AN EXCEPTION. I'M GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO I'M GOING TO DISMISS YOUR TICKET. BUT, YOU KNOW, NEXT TIME, IF YOU DO END UP IN THIS SITUATION PLEASE PRESENT MORE EVIDENCE. LIKE WHAT? YOU WITHOUT VIOLATING HIPAA, BUT SOMETHING TO SHOW A LITTLE MORE THAN YOU KNOW. AND I KNOW YOU BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED. I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT. YOU DID. I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT YOU WERE CORRECT. OKAY. SO WITH THAT SAID, I FIND IT NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4867 1380. THAT BASED ON TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED AT SCHOOL ZONE SPEED VIOLATION BE DISMISSED. YOU HAVE NO FURTHER ACTION AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY WELCOME. HAVE A GOOD DAY. YOU TOO. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW, HOW MANY ARE LEFT ON THE DOCKET? AND ARE THEY JUST NO SHOWS OR. OKAY. YEAH. NO SHOWS. OKAY, LET'S GO ONE BY ONE SECOND. BEFORE THAT, LET ME PUT MISS TILLMAN'S DECISION INTO THE COMPUTER AND MOVE ON. OKAY, I'VE GOT FIVE MORE LEFT. THAT OR NO SHOWS. NO MORE. JUST. OH. OKAY. WE'LL CALL THEM EACH ONE BY ONE. GO QUICKLY THROUGH THEM JUST TO HAVE A RECORD MADE. AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4801 3877 JULIE JOHNSON NOT PRESENT. OKAY. JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND. OKAY. LET'S DO. [01:25:06] THAT. OKAY. WITH THE CITY READY TO PRESENT WITH THE WITNESS PREVIEWS. WHAT'S THAT? JULIE JOHNSON. SURE, YOUR HONOR. WITH THE WITNESS PREVIOUSLY SWORN IN READY TO PRESENT. AND YOU HAVE IT UP. YEAH. OKAY. PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT FOR PAUL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND YOU REMAIN PREVIOUSLY SWORN. YES. WHAT IS YOUR POSITION? CORPORAL? IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION OF THIS HEARING? YES. AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN? YES. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THESE RECORDS? I DO, HOW IS THAT? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE. WHAT IS THIS? FIRST PAGE HERE, EXHIBIT A, IT'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT B. AND WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A NOTIFICATION LETTER OF ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE ON IT. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT C. AND WHAT'S ON EXHIBIT C E THE EVIDENCE REPORT PACKAGED INCLUDE PICTURES OF VEHICLE AND TAG AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND OFFICERS INVOLVED IN THE APPROVAL. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT D. AND WHAT IS THIS? YOU SEE CAMERA LOG REPORT OF WHEN THE SYSTEM WAS TESTED. I HAVE A SCROLL TO EXHIBIT E. AND WHAT IS THIS? IS THE CERTIFICATION OF THE LASER OR THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE POLICIES. ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN A NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, WE WOULD ASK TO MOVE THIS EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. THE PACKAGE IS MOVED INTO EVIDENCE. THERE WAS NO APPEARANCE BY MISS JOHNSON AS SUCH. SEEING NO ONE IS PRESENT FOR REMAINING. FOR THE FOR THAT CASE, I WILL REVIEW THE PACKAGE. AND I HAVE REVIEWED THE PACKAGE I ORDERED THAT THE VIOLATOR BE TO PAY THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED PENALTY OF $100. THAT WILL BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ORDER. AND THAT FAILURE TO PAY WOULD WE COULD IMPACT OR GO TO A COLLECTION AGENCY OR IMPACT YOUR CREDIT RATING? THE CREDIT RATING? OKAY. OKAY. NEXT ON THE LIST, CASE NUMBER 203080004726249 FOR DANIEL MOLATE. AND NO APPEARANCE BY MR. MALLARD. CORRECT. CORRECT. CORRECT. OKAY. CITY. READY TO PRESENT? YES, YOUR HONOR. WITNESS. PREVIOUSLY SWORN. WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON? AND WHAT'S YOUR JOB WITH THE CITY? I'M A CORPORAL IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION THAT FOR THIS HEARING? I AM. AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN? I AM, DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE? YES. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. ALL RIGHT, LET'S RUN THROUGH. THIS IS EXHIBIT A. WHAT IS THIS? I SEE NOTICE OF VIOLATION OF THE ALLEGED OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT B. AND WHAT IS THIS FORM? YOU SEE NOTIFICATION LETTER OF THE OF THE HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE. AND THAT'S WHAT IS TO EXHIBIT C. WHAT IS THIS IS THE EVIDENCE REPORT AND WHAT IS IN IT. IT LISTS ALL THE EMPLOYEES INVOLVED, INCLUDING AN OFFICER WHO IMPROVED THE VIOLATION AND PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE AND TAG. LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT D. WHAT IS THIS FORM? IS THE CAMERA LOG REPORT OF WHEN THE SYSTEM WAS TESTED. AND LET'S SCROLL TO THE FINAL FORM. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. THANK YOU. AND THAT IS EXHIBIT E. AND ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. THE CITY WOULD ASK TO MOVE THIS EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. ACCEPTING THE PACKAGE IN EVIDENCE. SEEING THAT MR. MALLET IS NOT HERE. I HAVE REVIEWED THE PACKAGE, AND THE TESTIMONY OF THE CITY IS PRESENTED AND I FIND THE VIOLATION OCCURRED. AND THEN I WILL ORDER THAT THIS VIOLATION BE UPHELD AND THAT THE FINAL $100 BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS, [01:30:06] AND THAT THE FAILURE OF NOT PAYING THE FINE CAN RESULT IN A COLLECTION AGENCY OR NEGATIVELY AFFECTING A CREDIT SCORE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE, THOUGH? NO ONE ELSE IS PRESENT. I HAVE, THAT'S IT. I HAVE MORE CASES. OKAY. AND, YEAH, NO ONE ELSE IS PRESENT. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4727 4338. DOREEN. PATRON. NOT PRESENT. OKAY. OKAY. CITY READY? YES. PRESENT A WITNESS, PREVIOUSLY SWORN. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT, CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND WHAT IS YOUR POSITION WITH THE CITY AND THE TRAFFIC UNIT? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS CITATION? I AM, AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN? YES. DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THIS CITATION? YES. AND HOW IS THAT? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE UP. THIS IS EXHIBIT A. WHAT IS THIS FORM? IS THE NOTICE A VIOLATION TO THE ALLEGE OFFENSE? ALL RIGHT, LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO THE CITY'S EXHIBIT B. WHAT IS THIS FORM? IS THE NOTIFICATION LETTER OF THE HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE, LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT C. AND WHAT IS THIS FOR? IT'S THE EVANS REPORT TO INCLUDE ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND OFFICER INVOLVED WHO APPROVED THE VIOLATION INCLUDE PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE AND OF THE LICENSE PLATE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT D. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE LOG REPORT OF WHEN THE CAMERA WAS TESTED. AND LET'S SCROLL DOWN TO EXHIBIT E. WHAT IS THIS? YOU SEE CERTIFICATE CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. ALL RIGHT. AND ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, WE WOULD ASK TO MOVE THIS EVIDENCE PACKAGE INTO EVIDENCE. OKAY. SO. MOVED IN. NO ONE PRESENT. SEEING THAT NO ONE IS PRESENT FOR THE FOR THIS CASE. I HAVEN'T REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE. AND BASED ON THE TESTIMONY PRESENTED I FIND THAT THE VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED. AND WITH ORDER THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED VIOLATION BE UPHELD. I ORDERED THAT THE VIOLATOR PAY $100 FINE, THAT THE FINE BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DAY OF THE ORDER, AND THAT FAILURE TO PAY THE FINE MAY RESULT IN A COLLECTION AGENCY OR NEGATIVELY, IN FACT, IMPACTING THE CREDIT SCORE. ANYBODY ELSE? YES, YOUR HONOR. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4822 8814. ROBERT SANDER. NOT PRESENT. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. LAST NAME WAS AGAIN. SANDERS. SANDER. SANDY. OKAY. SO, ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? YES. YOUR HONOR. A WITNESS. PREVIOUSLY SWORN ONE. OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT, CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND WHAT IS YOUR JOB WITH THE CITY? I'M A CORPORAL IN THE TRAFFIC UNIT. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS CITATION? YES. ARE YOU THE RECORDS CUSTODIAN? YES. DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THIS RECORD? I DO. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH IT? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO THROUGH THE EVIDENCE PACKET. THIS IS EXHIBIT A. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION OF THE ALLEGED OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT B. WHAT IS THIS FORM? IS THE NOTIFICATION LETTER OF THE HEARING WITH TODAY'S DATE AND TIME? PERFECT. AND WHAT IS THIS FORM? EXHIBIT C IS THE EVIDENCE REPORT TO INCLUDE ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND OFFICER INVOLVED. AND APPROVAL OF THE VIOLATION TO INCLUDE PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE AND TAG. OKAY. AND LET'S SCROLL TO CITY'S EXHIBIT D. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE CAMERA LOG REPORT OF WHEN IT WAS TESTED. AND THE FINAL EXHIBIT E WHAT IS THIS? YOU SEE CERTIFICATION OF THE TESTING OF THE SPEED MEASURING DEVICE. AND ARE ALL THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL, USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, WE WOULD ASK THAT THIS EVIDENCE PACKAGE BE MOVED INTO EVIDENCE. [01:35:06] SO MOVED IN. OKAY. SEEING THAT NO ONE'S PRESENT FOR THIS CASE. I HAVE REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE AND THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BY THE CITY, AND I FIND THE VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED, AND I WILL ORDER THAT THE SCREWS B ZONE VIOLATION BE UPHELD. THAT THE VIOLATOR PAY $100 FINE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THE ORDER FAILED TO PAY THE FINE CAN RESULT IN BEING SENT TO A COLLECTION AGENCY AND NEGATIVELY AFFECTING CREDIT SCORE AND MAY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES. OKAY. IS THERE ANY OTHER CASES? YES, YOUR HONOR. IT'S 2030 8000 4741 6532. ANDREW KYLE. NOT PRESENT. IS THE CITY READY TO PRESENT THIS CASE? YES, YOUR HONOR, AND THE WITNESS HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY BEEN SWORN. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT, CORPORAL ANDREW PIDGEON. AND WHAT IS YOUR POSITION WITH THE CORPORAL AND TRAFFIC UNIT? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION OF THIS HEARING? I AM, AND ARE YOU THE RECORDS? I AM. DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF IT? I DO. AND HOW IS THAT? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT IS THIS FIRST PAGE EXHIBIT? A IT'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION OF THE ALLEGED OFFENSE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S SCROLL DOWN AND TELL ME WHAT EXHIBIT B IS. IT'S A NOTIFICATION LETTER OF THE HEARING, WHICH TODAY IS DATE AND TIME ON IT. THANK YOU. AND EXHIBIT C, WHAT IS THIS PAGE? IS THE EVIDENCE REPORT TO INCLUDE ALL THE EMPLOYEES AND OFFICER INVOLVED IN APPROVAL PROCESS. TO INCLUDE PICTURES OF THE VEHICLE AND THE LICENSE PLATE. AND LET'S SCROLL TO EXHIBIT D. WHAT IS THIS? IT'S THE CAMERA LOG REPORT TO SHOW WHEN THE CAMERA WAS TESTED. AND LET'S SEE. THE FINAL EXHIBIT IS E IS THE CERTIFICATE OF CERTIFICATION OF THE SPEED MEASUREMENT DEVICE. AND ARE THESE RECORDS RETAINED AND STORED IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF NORMAL? UNUSUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, WE WOULD ASK THAT THIS EVIDENCE PACKET BE MOVED INTO EVIDENCE. SO MOVED IN SEEING THAT THE VIOLET IS NOT PRESENT. I HAVE REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE AND HEARD THE EVIDENCE OF THE PRESENTED BY THE CITY. I FIND THAT A VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED, AND I WILL ORDER THAT THE SCHOOL ZONE SPEED VIOLATION BE UPHELD. I ORDERED THE VIOLATOR PAY $100 WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE DATE OF THE ORDER. THAT FAILED TO PAY THE VIOLATION IN A TIMELY MANNER. MAY RESULT WITH MAY RESULT BEING FORWARDED TO COLLECTION AGENCY OR NEGATIVELY IMPACTING THE CREDIT SCORE. AND ALSO RESULT MAY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES. OKAY. ANY OTHER CASES? NO, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO AN ADJOURNMENT. THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 12TH OF 2025 AT 10 A.M.. AND WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT MONTH. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.