Jul 23, 2025 Sustainability Board

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I'M CALLING TO ORDER THE MEETING OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

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ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

OKAY. NOW WE CAN DO THE ROLL CALL.

REBECCA ZIEGLER HERE. SUSAN CONNOLLY HERE. JANE HIGGINS HERE.

JESSICA LAVELLE, PRESIDENT. WE HAVE OUR. THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENTS OR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE FINAL REVIEW OF THE SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.

[NEW BUSINESS]

THE UPDATES. YEAH. THANK JESSIE. I PROVIDED TWO SETS OF COPIES.

ONE COPY WAS LABELED WITH EDITS THAT HAS THE PICTURE.

SO THIS ONE IS THE CLEAN VERSION. THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER COPY THAT HAS THE EDITS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE STRIKE THREES.

AND THAT IS OF ALL THE EDITS THAT WE YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT'S TAKEN PLACE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.

I THINK ONE OF THE WHERE WE LAST LEFT OFF, PERHAPS THAT ONE OF OUR LAST MEETINGS WAS WE WERE GOING TO WORK ON A INCORPORATING A LOT MORE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IN HERE.

DID DID THAT GET DONE, JESSICA, OR WHERE ARE WE IN THAT? I DON'T RECALL THAT CONVERSATION, GENE. I OR I'VE SEEN LIKE, THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT LOGAN HAD SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, AT A LATER TIME, WE COULD LOOK AT THAT.

BECAUSE I'M SURE, AS YOU ARE SAYING, THAT THERE'S OVERLAP.

I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON, OR I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE FOCUS ON, IF WE AGREE WITH THE EDITS THAT WERE MADE TO THIS PLAN AND TRY TO GET THIS INTO A FINAL PACKAGE ONCE IT'S KIND OF CLEANED THROUGH, TO TAKE THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND SEE WHERE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO MAYBE INCLUDE.

I DON'T WANT TO TO YEAH. WHAT I MEAN, WHAT DOCUMENT DO YOU HAVE, JANE.

THE THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S OUT ON THE WEBSITE THAT THAT LISA FRAZIER HAS PRESENTED TO US.

AND MAYBE THAT'S WHAT WE COULD DO TO ASK ONCE WE HAVE THIS IN A BETTER CONDITION THAT WE SAY, HEY, ARE THERE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN PARTNER WITH YOU TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL INITIATIVES WITHIN THIS PLAN? I, I THINK THAT WE COULD DO THAT AND HAVE A REVISION AND NOT PAUSE THIS PROCESS.

I THINK THAT IT IS MORE AWARE THAT WE NEED TO GET SOME TANGIBLE ITEM IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND NOT THAT WE WANT TO WE HAVEN'T SPED THROUGH THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE THIS HAS BEEN SEVERAL MONTHS, RIGHT? SO I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THIS.

AND THAT IS WE ARE AT THE POINT OF GETTING SOME CLOSURE ON THIS.

AND I FIRST LIKE TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW AND TO THANK THE WHOLE TEAM, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, THANK EACH OF US. EXTRA THANK YOU TO JESSICA, WHO WAS THE THE ONE WHO DID THE ACTUAL TYPING AND AND HOLDING IT TOGETHER. THANK YOU ALL. THIS IS A BIG ACCOMPLISHMENT.

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AND BUT THANK YOU. EVERYBODY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO SHOW ON THIS MY RECOMMENDATION, SINCE WE ARE READY TO VOTE ON THIS AND TO TO TO CLOSE IT OUT.

IT'S WE HAVE TO WE DECIDED WE WOULD COME UP WITH A MATRIX OF TOP PRIORITY ITEMS IN THIS THAT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHIN A YEAR. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE INCORPORATION OF THE LID FROM LISA FRAZIER'S PRESENTATION. SHE CAME HERE BEFORE US AND MADE THAT PRESENTATION, WHICH IS EXCELLENT.

IT HAD EVERYTHING IN IT DIAGRAMS, SHORT STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IS.

APPLICATIONS FOR IT. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WITHIN THIS FIRST YEAR BE ADDED TO OUR PLAN IN SOME SORT OF ADDENDUM OR MAYBE EVEN A SEPARATE SECTION. SO I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER TO DO IT THAT WAY AND THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DELIVERABLE. WE PRETTY MUCH KNOW WHAT WILL BE IN IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SET THE DUE DATE AND MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS. YEAH. I MEAN, I SAY THAT WE ALREADY WE START.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE'S HAD TIME TO LOOK OVER THIS, BUT THAT WILL BE THE THE FIRST PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE HAVE EDITED AND MARKED THROUGH, EVERYONE STILL AGREES UPON. GET THIS AND THAT PRESENTABLE SHAPE AND THEN WORK ON THE ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION.

THEREAFTER, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE HAVE THIS CLEANED UP AND GET IT TO COUNCIL.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. PUT THIS ON THEIR AGENDA FOR FOR NEXT MONTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THAT'S POSSIBLE, BUT GET THEIR FEEDBACK FROM THIS PLUGIN.

AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THEIR FEEDBACK TO THEN PULL OUT THE ITEMS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITHIN A YEAR AND PUT THAT INTO LIKE A MATRIX DOCUMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, TIMETABLE WISE, THE THERE ARE TWO MEETINGS OF CITY COUNCIL IN AUGUST, AUGUST 7TH AND AUGUST 21ST. DO YOU THINK I THINK WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING TO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL BY THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING. THAT'S IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IT'S BASICALLY IN ITS FINAL FORMAT. I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE COULD REQUEST TO BE ON THE AGENDA AS A PRESENTATION AND PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL IN THAT WAY.

I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY TIMELY FOR BOTH COUNCIL AND CITIZENS TO HAVE A DOCUMENT LIKE THIS AS REPRESENTATIVE OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE CITY.

I AGREE WITH THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT DATES, BUT LET'S LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THIS.

AND THEN TAKE THAT NEXT. LIKE WHAT IS OUR NEXT STEP? IF EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. SO IF WE WANT TO START AT THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO START THE PAGE BEFORE THEN ON PAGE EIGHT, WHERE IT SAYS GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN.

CAN WE HOLD HOPE THAT UNTIL WE GET BECAUSE THAT THAT PART JANE, IN ADDITION TO THE PAGES BEFORE NEED TO BE REVISED.

SO IF WE CAN FOCUS ON MAKING SURE THAT WHAT WE EDITED AND STRUCK THROUGH EVERYBODY'S INGREDIENTS AND THEN WE CAN BACKTRACK IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

WELL, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE THE WAY IT STARTS OUT, IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE THESE ARE GOALS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING THE CITY TO ACCOMPLISH AND BASICALLY THEIR IDEAS OF SUSTAINABILITY TYPE OBJECTIVES. BUT BY THE WAY, IT STARTS OUT, IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE, OH, THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN SOMEHOW. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN RELATIVELY SOON.

AND I REALLY I DON'T I ALMOST FEEL LIKE WE COULD ALMOST RENAME THIS WHOLE THING TO SOMETHING BESIDES AN ACTION PLAN TO BE MORE OF A SUSTAINABILITY BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, BMPS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AS KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND GUIDEBOOK, ESPECIALLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE

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I LIKE THAT IDEA. AND ALSO, I THINK I'M RESPONDING TO IDEAS THAT WE CAN QUICKLY DRAW THIS TO A CONCLUSION.

AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP US. I THINK ALSO LIKE JESSICA SAID, THE GOALS, IT'S REALLY NOT APPROPRIATE THAT SECTION.

IT COULD BE DELETED VERY EASILY TONIGHT. AND IN FACT, A LOT OF THIS COULD BE NOT ONLY DELETED, BUT WHAT IS LEFT. WE COULD CONDENSE IT VERY EASILY.

AND MAYBE, I MEAN, I KIND OF SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO TRACK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR.

THAT'S NOT A BEST PRACTICE. THAT IS A GOAL THAT WE'LL SEE.

THAT'S WHERE WE IT'S MEASURABLE ATTAINABLE REALISTIC.

AND IT HAS A TIMETABLE. IT'S A SMART OBJECTIVE.

IT'S A GOAL. YOU WORK TOWARDS SOMETHING. SO I WOULD SAY LET'S THINK THROUGH HOW YOU WANT TO WORK IT THEN.

AND LET'S MOVE TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE ON THIS PRIORITY.

LET'S DO THIS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL TACKLE THAT LANGUAGE IF YOU'RE IN AGREEMENTS.

WELL, I JUST I'VE NEVER FELT THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE THAT WE ARE GIVING THE CITY AND THE CITY EMPLOYEES THEIR GOALS.

I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN SUGGEST BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND GOOD IDEAS, SUSTAINABLE IDEAS.

THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A TON OF GOALS THEY'RE WORKING ON.

IT'S SO. BUT IT'S YEAH, IT'S IT'S NOT THOUGH I MEAN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO THAT THEIR PARTNERSHIP WITH NON-PROFITS, IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR THE CITY, BUT WE ARE STILL ON THAT SECTION.

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO USE NATURAL RESOURCES. NOT TO SAY THAT YOUR ISSUE IS NOT IMPORTANT, BUT THIS IS A COMBINED COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. IT'S NOT GOING TO SPECIFIC CITY STAFF.

IT'S A COMBINED EFFORT BETWEEN NONPROFITS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, US INDIVIDUALLY.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RECREATE THINGS. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE TO PUT THIS INTO THE COUNCIL.

THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT AS WELL. IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, THEY'RE KIND OF THAT STRATEGIC OVERSIGHT OVER CITY, RIGHT. SO JUST THINK THROUGH HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO WARD IT DIFFERENTLY WHERE IT'S BECAUSE OTHERWISE WHY DID WE DO THIS? I HAVE BROUGHT THAT POINT UP BECAUSE REALLY, AGAIN, THE CITY HAS A NEMESIS FOR HAS MANY OBJECTIVES ALREADY LAID OUT.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE RECEPTIVE TO OTHER IDEAS, BUT NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT IN THE SHORT RUN.

THEY'VE ALREADY GOT A LOT LAID OUT RIGHT NOW TO WORK ON.

YEAH, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE EITHER A 5 OR 7 YEAR PLAN.

AND THEN WE WOULD TAKE THE ONE YEAR. SO. OKAY, I'D LIKE TO DRAW THIS DISCUSSION TO A CLOSE.

WE CAN VOTE ON WHETHER WE WANT TO WORK ON THE INTRODUCTION OR WORK ON NATURAL.

SO I'M PROPOSING THAT WE VOTE ON THAT. NOW IT'S AN EITHER OR.

SO ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST. I'LL VOTE TO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION.

I AGREE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T WRITTEN DOWN JANE TO RENAME IT, AND I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS TO HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT, INVOLVING OUR OUR SUPPORT STAFF WHO DEAL WITH LANGUAGE AND PRESENTATION.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE AGREEING WITH. YOU'RE AGREEING WITH.

I'M AGREEING THAT MOVING FORWARD WITH A WAY TO KEEP WHAT JANE IS SAYING, THAT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN HANDLE IT AFTER WE AFTER I CONCUR, I CAN MOVE FORWARD. WE CAN DEAL WITH THE REST.

JANE I DON'T AGREE WITH MOVING FORWARD ON THAT, BUT IF THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY VOTES ON, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO IT. THANK YOU. WELL, FOR TONIGHT WE HAVE ANOTHER AGENDA.

TOPIC TWO THAT WE HAVE TO. SO WE HAVE WE HAVE THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT WITH THE EDITS AND I'VE READ THROUGH THEM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE.

I THINK WE MANAGED TO BE LESS VERBOSE AND STILL GET THE MAJORITY OF THE KEEP THE KEEP THE OBJECTIVES, THE GOALS THE SAME. OH, YOU MEAN CHANGING THE GOAL HERE?

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YEAH. I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, EDITED TO THIS FINAL VERSION ALIGNS AND MATCHES WITH THAT.

ARE YOU ALL READING THIS? I'VE ALREADY READ IT.

I'VE ALREADY AGREED THAT WE'RE GOOD WITH THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SECTION.

YEAH, IN A WAY, I'M. WE'RE ON PUBLIC TIME. YES.

IT DOESN'T SEEM. I DON'T LIKE TO HAVE US HAVE SPACE ON OUR.

YEAH. EMPTY. EMPTY. YEAH. EMPTY AIR. WE HAVE GOAL THREE MENTIONS.

LOW. LOW. IMPACT. DEVELOP LOW IMPACT PROGRAM.

AND WE KNOW THAT IS AN ONGOING GROWING FIELD.

AND IT'S REALLY VERY TECHNICAL. IT'S ADMIRABLE THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE WORK.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS IN OUR PURVIEW TO WRITE THOSE.

THERE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SO. YEAH. ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT I KNOW ONE THING.

I DON'T THINK IT GOT IN HERE, BUT THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT HAS A WATER STAR PROGRAM THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO REFERENCE TO A REFERENCE BECAUSE IT IS GEARED TOWARD BUSINESSES AND HOMEOWNERS AND HOW TO BE WATER WISE IN TERMS OF REDUCING INCREASING REUSE OF STORMWATER AND CAPTURING IT AND REDUCING FLOODING.

AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HEAR ABOUT THAT.

NO, BUT WE CAN. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT IF THE CITY IS AWARE OF IT, THE CITY CAN WE CAN DO THAT.

LOOK INTO THAT. DO YOU WANT TO JUMP DOWN THAT? CAN YOU STATE THE WATER START PROGRAM? I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE CITY HAVE IT ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT PEOPLE WILL WANT TO LOOK INTO.

THAT WOULD BE NICE. WHAT I'M THINKING. WELL, WE'RE INTO THIS RIGHT NOW.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SUGGESTION. IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A ONE SENTENCE RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO ADD IT AND GET OUR APPROVAL.

AND TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. JANE. SAME IDEA. I THINK IT LIKE ON PAGE NINE, NUMBER F, FORMULATE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATION POLICY.

I THINK THERE WE COULD ADD A SENTENCE LIKE A COMMA.

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AND THERE'S ANOTHER PLACE I SAW TWO THAT YOU WERE SAYING.

YEAH. SO. SO THAT'S GOAL THREE. THAT'S WHAT'S WHAT REBECCA HAS MENTIONED.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOAL THREE IS WHAT REBECCA WAS TALKING ABOUT OCCURRED WITH THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT ALREADY BEING MENTIONED.

YEAH. OKAY. WHICH ONE IS IT MENTIONED THERE. TWO LETTER A GO THREE LETTER A.

SO IT'S IN THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT THOUGH NOT IN NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

SO YOU DON'T SEE IT. WELL NO IT'S IT'S BOTH IT'S IT'S ALL SCATTERED THROUGHOUT HERE.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH. YEAH. BUT I THOUGHT REBECCA WAS REFERENCING ON PAGE 11.

GOAL THREE. THAT'S THE MAIN ONE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THE OVERALL YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL AND NATURAL RESOURCES MENTIONING IT THERE. AND THEN AGAIN, PAGE 13.

GOAL THREE UNDER THIS SPECIFICALLY SAYS LOW IMPACT SUSTAINABLE RESILIENCY PLANNING.

DEVELOP A LOW IMPACT PROGRAM. AND THEN YEAH, THAT ONE'S REALLY SPECIFICALLY I THINK IN TERMS OF THE WATER STAR PROGRAM BY SAINT JOHN'S RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

IT COULD GO UNDER. GO TO PROTECT. RESTORE WATER.

IT COULD EVEN SAY UNDER EDUCATE. IT COULD BE IN THERE.

SAY, REFER TO THE MANAGEMENT DISTRICT'S WEBSITE.

THEY HAVE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR HOMEOWNERS.

WHERE ARE YOU? I'M LOST. PAGE TEN. OH. PAGE TEN.

NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. LAND AND WATER SYSTEMS. AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I READ THROUGH THIS AT HOME, THAT WAS REALLY THE ONLY THING I FELT WAS MISSING.

WELL, CAN WE COME UP WITH AN ADD ADDED STATEMENT RIGHT NOW? TAKEN FROM WHAT YOU'VE SAID, WHAT IS THE. SAY IT AGAIN AND I'LL TAKE.

OR MAYBE JESSICA CAN CAPTURE.

OKAY, SO I THINK OH, UNDER THAT SECTION. ON PAGE 11 WE COULD MENTION THE WATER STAR PROGRAM BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THEY MENTION CONSERVATION AND INCENTIVES. SO WE CAN JUST ADD COMMAS SUCH AS SAINT JOHN THE S J W O D. YEAH, THAT'S J WMD WATER STAR PROGRAM.

AND JANE, DO YOU WANT WHAT WE'RE HERE LOOKING AT THE LANGUAGE OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT SHE'S POINTED OUT. IS THAT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH? OR. NO, WE'LL JUST WAIT. I MEAN, OKAY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO FOR TONIGHT, BUT, YES, WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE THOROUGH.

OKAY, SO WE STILL LEAVE. RIGHT. AND WE'LL BE SENSITIVE TO WHERE IT ALREADY IS IN HERE.

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. IT IS THAT IMPORTANT. IT NEEDS A SPECIFIC FOCUS.

OKAY. WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON NOW? YOU ARE.

SO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT SECTION? WITH ADDING THE REFERENCE TO THIS THE SAINT JOHNS RIVER WATER MANAGEMENT WATER STAR PROGRAM. YES. THE WATER. THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

WATER STAR PROGRAM.

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YEAH. YES. ANYBODY OBJECT? NO, NO. NO OBJECTIONS.

SO THAT IS TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY. YES.

NEXT ON PAGE 11 IS AT THE BOTTOM AND SAYS BUILD THE BUILD UP ENVIRONMENT SECTION.

I MISSED IT. OKAY. THAT WAS ALREADY THERE. WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS FORMATTED WHERE IT'S NOT LOST.

THE ONLY THING THAT I SEEN WAS A TYPO. SECOND SENTENCE SAYS ZERO ONE WHERE IT SHOULD BE ON.

I'VE GONE AHEAD AND CORRECTED THAT. OKAY.

IT IS MENTIONED ON PAGE 12. TO JANE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.

ARE WE MOVING ON TO TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY? OR. I DON'T HAVE ANY EDITS OTHER THAN THE ONE THAT WAS ALREADY MADE WITH THE TYPE OF.

IS EVERYONE READY TO MOVE ON TO TRANSPORTATION? I'M THERE. JAMES? YES. OKAY. I DO HAVE ONE THING ON GOAL.

OKAY. GOAL THREE. BECAUSE IT'S JUST A STATEMENT OF LOW IMPACT, SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT CITY PLANNING.

I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE IN 50 INVEST. WE NEED TO ADD AND ACTION THERE.

VERY GOOD. I AGREE. SO WOULD IT BE INVEST OR WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT WE PUT THERE.

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THAT THAT IMPLIES PARTNERSHIP. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS A GOOD GOAL TO.

OR OR ACHIEVE. ALIGN WITH ANY OF THOSE.

ARE WE? ARE WE OKAY WITH THAT? I THINK ACHIEVE IT READS BETTER, ACHIEVE LOW IMPACT, SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT CITY PLANNING.

OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH IT. OKAY. SORRY. ALL RIGHT.

NOW, NOW WE CAN MOVE ON. THANK YOU.

WHEN WE'RE RIGHT. WHEN WE WERE WRITING THIS, I DIDN'T SEE NEARLY AS MANY E-BIKES AS I DO OUT THERE NOW.

I MEAN, E-BIKES ARE JUST EVERYWHERE NOW. SOMETIMES THEY'RE ON THE SIDEWALK, SOMETIMES THEY'RE ON THE STREET.

AND THEY GO FAST. ARE YOU ON TRANSPORTATION? OR ARE YOU SEEING E-BIKE TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY? SO I THINK THAT A LOT OF STUFF WE HAVE HERE. WOULD ENABLE MORE SAFE PLACES FOR E-BIKES. BUFFER ZONES.

WE HAVE BUFFER ZONES AND YEAH.

MULTIMODAL.

I REALLY LIKE OUR GOAL OF PROMOTING NATURE BASED TOURISM.

IS THAT IN TRANSPORTATION? YES IT IS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE RIDING THEIR BIKES AND OFF ROAD VEHICLES AND.

AND THEY CAN BE IN CARS TOO. BUT IT'S ALL. PROMOTING.

GETTING OUT. HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO GET THERE. GET OUT INTO NATURE.

SO I LIKE BE DEVELOPED SIDEWALK NETWORK. THERE'S PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE YOU'LL HAVE A DEAD END STREET OPPOSITE ANOTHER DEAD END STREET WITH A LITTLE CANAL BETWEEN THEM.

AND IF THEY PUT A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, THERE'S PLACES WHERE THAT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH EASIER FOR KIDS TO WALK TO SCHOOL.

THEN IF WE PUT IN A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, WE PARTNERED WITH SOME WALKING GROUP OR BIKING GROUP.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE TRANSPORTATION.

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I THINK THAT WAS ALREADY IN HERE IN DEVELOPING SIDEWALK NETWORK, ESPECIALLY WITHIN SCHOOL CAMPUSES.

WELL, I'D SAY WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO INNOVATIVE WASTE MANAGEMENT AGAIN WHEN WE DO THE FINAL TO HAVE EACH OF THESE HEADINGS. SOMEHOW IN THEIR OWN SECTION, I THINK WE AGREE.

YEAH, YEAH, I'LL MAKE SURE JUST WHATEVER FORMAT, WHATEVER THAT I SEND OVER TO THEM THAT WHEN IT'S PRINTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT LOOKS THE SAME. WELL YOU ARE BEING VERY SUSTAINABLE. YES YES YES YES.

THANK YOU. NO, NO WASTE OF PAPER HERE.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE CITY WEBSITE, AND THEY REALLY DO HAVE A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE A LIST, A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF THINGS OF HOW TO DISPOSE OF VARIOUS THINGS.

WHERE AND HOW. WHO TO CALL, WHO TO TAKE THINGS TO.

WHERE TO GO. LINKS TO THE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN FIND THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

YOU'RE SAYING WE ALREADY HAVE THAT? I'M SAYING THE CITY IS REALLY TRYING HERE.

I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS I THINK I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE.

IT'S RENTERS WHO JUST DON'T TAKE THEIR STUFF WITH THEM AND JUST PUSH EVERYTHING OUT TO THE CURB INDISCRIMINATELY.

USE EVERY BIT AND EVERYTHING'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SORTED.

IT'S JUST NASTY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO REQUIRE. WE DON'T EVEN. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE CITY IS AWARE OF WHO IS RENTING PROPERTY VERSUS WHO IS OWNER OCCUPIED VERSUS RENTER TENANT OCCUPIED. BUT IN SOME CASES, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.

THE WAYS THAT TENANTS LEAVE BEHIND WHERE THEY THEY JUST FILL THEIR CAR OR WHATEVER, THEY LEAVE THE.

SOMEBODY COMES AND CLEANS OUT THE REST AND JUST PUSHES IT TO THE CURB.

AND THAT'S EXPENSES ON EVERYBODY. CAN YOU AGAIN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WE COULD TAKE ON? I THINK SINCE WE'RE GROWING SO QUICKLY IN TERMS OF RENTAL PROPERTIES.

THAT IS A VERY TIMELY FOR US ALL TO START THINKING IN TERMS OF BEYOND BUSINESSES, BEYOND OWNERS.

WELL, I DON'T THINK MY IDEAS ARE GOING TO BE POPULAR, BUT IN OTHER PLACES I'VE LIVED YOU HAD TO BUY A TAG FROM THE TOWN OR CITY TO PUT ON THE ITEM TO BE PICKED UP.

IF IT WAS A BULK ITEM AND IT WASN'T A LOT OF MONEY, BUT IT LET THE TRASH COLLECTOR KNOW THAT.

YES. THAT IS. WE DO PICK THAT UP BECAUSE OTHERWISE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD NOT PICK UP STUFF.

AND I HAVE SEEN THAT THE DRIVERS GET OUT HERE IN FLORIDA.

REPUBLIC DRIVERS GET OUT AND LABEL BINS THAT ARE THAT THEY KNOW CONTAIN STUFF THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PICK UP.

SO I KNOW THEY, THEY ARE MAKING AN EFFORT TO KEEP THEIR RECYCLES UNCONTAMINATED.

BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW THE LEGALITY OF THE SITUATION WHEN YOU HAVE TENANTS.

IF THE. WELL. LOOK AT GOAL TWO ON PAGE 17. NUMBER.

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ON HARD TO RECYCLE PRODUCTS BY IMPROVING INFORMATIONAL DOCUMENTS AND EXPANDING CITY PROGRAMS. SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE GROWING NUMBER OF RENTAL PROPERTIES AND THE I THIS IS MY POINT IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE RENTAL PROPERTIES.

ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE AND NEXT TO ONE OUT OF THE.

WHO'S THEY? ME. OH, IN MY. I'M AT A T INTERSECTION IF I COUNT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, OR 5 HOMES. TWO OF THEM ARE RENTED. WELL, I'M TRYING TO SAY IN MY MIND, WHAT YOU JUST SAID HAS SPARKED A WHOLE SUBAREA TO PAY ATTENTION TO. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET HERE TO.

BUT I THINK WHAT REBECCA SAYING IS, LIKE, HOW WOULD YOU MONITOR IT? HOW WOULD YOU PUSH COMPLIANCE AND ALL THAT? WELL, I CAN'T DECIDE THAT TONIGHT, BUT. RIGHT.

SO IT'S CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE. I THINK THAT THAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS GREAT, BUT AT SOME POINT THERE'S GOING TO BE AS WE KNOW, THE LAST TIME THEY PUT THE TRASH COLLECTION RECYCLING OUT TO BID, THERE WAS ONLY ONE COMPANY THAT BID ON IT.

AND AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GOING TO EITHER RAISE THEIR RATES OR DEMAND CHANGE.

AND I THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER GOING FORWARD.

YOU KNOW, ONLY ONE COMPANY FITS, SO YOU'RE KIND OF OVER A BARREL.

YOU CAN'T REALLY EITHER MAKE IT AND SOMETHING IN THE PLAN OR WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED ON.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING I THINK YOU'RE TAPPING INTO SOMETHING.

RIGHT NOW IT'S COMING ACROSS AS A PERSONAL. YES.

WELL, I THINK THAT IF WE HAD SOMETHING IN THERE ABOUT ABANDONED PERSONNEL PROPERLY LEFT OUT, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S AND IT'S AN AREA TO ADDRESS, RIGHT.

EXPLORE, EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL FOR PURSUING COMPENSATION FOR ABANDONED PROPERTY LEFT AT THE CURB FOR TRASH COLLECTION. ABANDONED PERSONAL PROPERTY.

WHAT DID YOU SAY? PERSONAL, UNATTENDED OR. WHAT DID YOU.

WHAT WAS YOUR WORD? I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN. TO EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL FOR COMPENSATION.

NO, YOU KNOW, NOT COMPENSATION. IT WAS THE PROBLEM OF UNMARKED OR UNATTENDED OR.

WELL, THAT'S NOT TO SAY BECAUSE THIS IS RECYCLING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE TRASH. WELL, IT'S A MIX.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM IS PEOPLE AREN'T SORTING IT.

THEY'RE JUST ABANDONING THEIR PERSONAL ITEMS AT THE CURB WHEN THEY MOVE THEIR UNWANTED, YOU KNOW, REFUSE THAT THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO OR WANTING TO TAKE WITH THEM.

WELL, LET ME MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PUT THAT EITHER ON THE AREA LIKE JANE IS.

WITH THE LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT, I CAN SEE US DOING A SIMILAR, MORE DETAILED THING RAISING SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND PROBLEMS. AND ESPECIALLY WE CAN MENTION SOME SORT OF RECOMMENDATION ON CHOOSING A COMPANY WHERE CITIZENS CERTAINLY GETTING JUST ONE BID DOESN'T SEEM JUST IN GENERAL CITY PRACTICE.

NOT A GOOD. YEAH. I MEAN, THE ORIGINAL PLAN DID MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, AND WE STRUCK THROUGH IT.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO OVERSTEP IN THAT. WE ALSO HAD SOME ABOUT SOME, BUT I'M RECYCLED AND STUFF.

SO IS EVERYBODY ELSE OKAY WITH IT AS WRITTEN? THE TRASH RECYCLING. I'M GOOD WITH THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.

IT WILL FOR TONIGHT. I'M. I SEE SOME PRETTY GOOD THINGS IN HERE, SO.

BUT DON'T LOSE YOUR THOUGHT. YES, WELL, IT COULD GO UNDER.

IF WE DECREASE RECYCLING CONTAMINATION. OKAY.

YEAH. FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, THAT'S WHERE OUR CONTAMINATION COMES FROM.

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I DON'T MEAN THAT TO THE FACE. SUSTAINABILITY FAIR AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS. MOVING ON. YES. I RECALL WE DEBATED HAVING THIS AS A ITEM UNDER EVERY OR AS A SEPARATE.

I THINK THAT I LIKE THE WAY IT READS. WHERE ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY? UNDER THE BEGINNING PARAGRAPH FOR EDUCATION AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

BECAUSE YOUR STATEMENT YOU LIKE HOW IT READS IS VERY COMPLIMENTARY.

WELL, YES, I, I DIDN'T EVEN READ THE INTRODUCTION PART.

I WENT RIGHT TO THE GOALS. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES THOUGH. THE ONLY THING I DON'T THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH ON THE THE FIRST SENTENCE, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY NECESSARY TO HAVE THAT.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M GOOD TO LEAVE IT IN THERE, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S.

WELL, IT'S NOT USEFUL. ONE SENTENCE I LIKED IN THERE, JESSICA.

SEE WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT. WHAT STOOD OUT FOR ME WAS BY FOCUSING EFFORTS ON EDUCATIONAL AWARENESS, THE CITY CAN PROVIDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO SUPPORT CHANGE.

I THINK I THINK THAT COULD BE THE WHOLE INTRODUCTION.

OH, WELL, THAT WOULD SIMPLIFY IT. I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE AND IT KIND OF GOES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS ISN'T JUST THE CITY AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC CAMPAIGN. THIS IS A BIG PART.

EDUCATION IS A BIG PART OF THIS PLAN. OKAY. SO WE COULD STRIKE EVERYTHING BUT THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AND THE SECOND SENTENCE OF THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.

SO IT'LL BE SUCCESSFUL. IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS PLAN DEPENDS ON MORE THAN JUST MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT SUPPORT.

BY FOCUSING EFFORTS ON EDUCATIONAL AWARENESS, THE CITY CAN PROVIDE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO SUPPORT CHANGE.

PERIOD. YES, I LIKE THAT. THAT IS EXCELLENT. THE REST OF THOSE WORDS TAKE A LONG TIME TO READ.

THAT IS GOOD. THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T READ THEM. WHAT DO YOU SAY? THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T READ THEM. WELL, THANK YOU FOR DELETING IT, THEN.

YES. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN SEE THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT? YOU SEEM TO HAVE A GOOD SENSE ABOUT THAT BECAUSE.

BUT WE DON'T READ. THE COMMUNITY IS NOT GOING TO READ.

RIGHT.

I DO LIKE THAT LAST SENTENCE, THOUGH. EVEN THOUGH IT'S LONG, IT DOES STATE THE FOLLOWING OBJECTIVES.

CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY, ENCOURAGE SMART PRACTICES, AND FOSTER PARTICIPATION TO PROMOTE MORE SUSTAINABLE MUNICIPAL, RESIDENTIAL, AND BUSINESS PRACTICES. LIKE A SUMMARY OF ALL THAT.

SO WE'LL HAVE THREE SENTENCES. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. JESSICA. OKAY. JANE SAYS YES TO.

OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. ALL RIGHT. YOU ALL ARE WE.

SO WE'RE GOOD. GOOD WITH THE MAIN. THE MAIN SECTIONS.

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AND NOWHERE NEAR DID IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT A TIME.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE ALL THE OTHER LIKE Y'ALL PULL OUT YOUR SATELLITE BEACH, THE SEBASTIAN.

THERE'S ALWAYS A TIME TIMEFRAME. ARE THESE PLANS TYPICALLY PART OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING OF THE CITY? SHOULD I ASK THEIR STAFF? A PLAN LIKE THIS DOES IT? CAN IT BE INCORPORATED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN OR PARALLEL WITH IT? THAT'S SOMETHING I'D HAVE TO CHECK ON. I CAN'T ANSWER WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY.

OKAY, BUT IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, THOUGH. WELL, IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE MEANING TO JESSICA? OR IN SOME WAYS, LIKE, DO WE INCORPORATE THIS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? NO. ANY FOR THIS THIS BOARD. THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD SAY THIS IS A FIVE YEAR OR SEVEN YEAR PLAN.

SO DO WE HAVE IS IT A FIVE YEAR PLAN THAT WE HAVE NOW FOR THE CITY.

IT IT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT IT TO BE. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE FIVE YEAR OR SEVEN YEAR.

JUST I MEAN, THE CITY HAS A STRATEGIC PLAN. YEAH.

IT'S IT'LL BE SEPARATE FROM THAT THOUGH. AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF YEARS.

IT'S WHAT WE WOULD DEFINE AS I'M SUPPORTIVE OF SEVEN YEARS.

I THINK SOME OF THESE ARE PRETTY BROAD AND BIG.

BUT MOST ARE TYPE. WHERE WOULD YOU PUT THAT IN THE PLAN? SO IT NEEDS TO BE IN A LANGUAGE, BUT DEFINITELY ON THE FRONT PAGE.

WELL, I LIKE FIVE YEAR BECAUSE SEVEN YEAR, WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT OLDER FOLKS, YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING IN YOUR LIFETIME. AND ALSO, I THINK IN OUR THE, THE PREVIOUS PLAN THAT WAS WRITTEN IN THAT IT WOULD BE REVIEWED AT SO MANY INTERSECTIONS. I'M REMEMBERING, I THINK ANNUALLY THAT WE WOULD REVIEW IT AND REVISE IT.

TOTALLY. I'M GOING BY MEMORY. FIVE YEARS. WELL, THAT'S ON PAGE FOUR UNDER THE CITY COUNCIL. IS IT IN THEIR APPROVED US TO DEVELOP A SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WITH A GOAL OF ACHIEVING 100% CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035? OKAY, SO THE BALANCE THAT DOESN'T GIVE A DATE, RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S THE ONLY DAY WHICH. AND THEN NOW THIS SECTION HERE IS NOT APPROVED.

THOSE SECTIONS RIGHT. WE'RE NOT APPROVING THOSE.

I DON'T KNOW. I DO NOT KNOW. WELL, JESSICA, YOU SAID TO SKIP OVER THE VERBIAGE IN THE BEGINNING.

YEAH, I THINK I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH OTHER SECTIONS THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THE FIRST PART.

WELL BECAUSE VERBIAGE LIKE THAT NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY LEFT OUT.

THAT GOAL IS DONE. SO ELIMINATE THAT. WELL, THANKS.

AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE YOU AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS.

DO WE EVEN NEED IT IN THERE LIKE SOME OF THIS, JUST AS WE DID IN THE BEGINNING.

THERE'S A LOT OF AND EVEN AS WE JUST POINTED OUT WITH REBECCA, THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS.

DO WE ACTUALLY NEED SOME OF THIS STUFF IN HERE? SO I WOULD ACTUALLY CHALLENGE US AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE BOARD.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY LENGTHY. THE TOP PART IS TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN.

THE BOTTOM PART IS TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO I THINK THAT WE CAN PROBABLY DOWNSIZE AND STRIKE THROUGH A LOT OF THIS.

WELL, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. I DO FEEL LIKE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE THIS HISTORY OF WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR US TO BE DOING, BECAUSE IT ISN'T THAT LIKE WRITTEN DOWN, LIKE, WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT EASILY, RIGHT? THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THIS PART THAT THAT PAGE FOUR.

YEAH. FOR THE HISTORY OF WHAT, HOW AND WHY WE WERE CREATED AND WHAT OUR MANDATE WAS, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING LIKE. YEAH.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE SOME OF THAT IN. DO WE, DO WE WANT TO START THERE? DO WE WANT TO START ON THE INTRODUCTION? WHERE DO WE WANT TO START WITH THIS.

I MEAN I DON'T CARE IF WE LEAVE THAT IN. I DO FEEL LIKE THE NEW CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY,

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THIS COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ANY GOAL THAT SAYS CLEAN ENERGY BY 2035.

I DON'T SEE ANY PURPOSE IN GOING BACK AT THIS POINT FOR THAT PARTICULAR.

I DO AGREE WITH YOU SOME SYNOPSIS OF THE HISTORY IF WE WANT, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE TONIGHT.

WE'RE ALREADY AN HOUR IN. WE'VE GOT ONE OTHER AGENDA TOPIC.

PERSONALLY, EITHER WE AGREE TO ENTRUST IT TO OUR CITY STAFF.

I'M LOOKING AT THE PERSON WHO CAN DO IT. TO MAYBE SUMMARIZE THIS OR OR TO LEAVE IT OPEN.

AND ONCE THIS PLAN GOES BEFORE COUNCIL AND IS APPROVED, WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF A LETTER OR SOMETHING FROM THE COUNCIL, IN THEIR WORDS, ABOUT IT. BUT FOR TONIGHT, I THINK THE BULK OF IT IS IN GREAT, GREAT ORDER. I WOULD LIKE TO, AS JESSICA SAID, REDUCE THIS INTRODUCTION.

THERE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO KEEP. I ALSO, WELL, I DISAGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A TIME A DEADLINE OR WHEN THESE THINGS SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED. BECAUSE PART OF OUR.

PART THIS IS ONGOING WORK BY THE CITY, AND REVISITING IT AND UPDATING IT WAS TO BE PART OF OUR MANDATE.

YES, YES. SO HAVING A KEEPING IT UPDATED. AND THAT IS ALSO A WAY OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE SUCCESS OF THE CITY AND ATTAINING REACHING GOALS AND ATTAINING SUSTAINABILITY.

SO FOR NOW, DO YOU JUST WANT TO PUT SOMETHING IN ABOUT THAT, REBECCA, THAT THE THIS IS A LIKE A LIVING DOCUMENT? I DON'T REALLY LIKE THOSE WORDS, BUT IN ESSENCE, IT'S A REVIEWABLE AND A A PRESENTATION OF WHERE WE ARE AT THIS MOMENT THAT WILL BE BUILT INTO THE PLAN IS A, ANNUAL REVIEW WITH A FIVE YEAR ACHIEVEMENT GOAL SET TO ACHIEVE. FIVE YEARS? WELL, I THINK IT GETS BACK TO WHO'S SETTING THE GOALS FOR FIVE YEARS.

I THINK WE COULD SAY WE WOULD MONITOR PROGRESS IN FIVE YEARS, BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THAT GOALS MAY CHANGE IN FIVE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, THEY MAY END. THEN HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN LED OR LED OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS WILL KEEP EVOLVING.

SO YOU SAY THE LANGUAGE COULD BE FOR TONIGHT.

MONITOR RIGHT. PROGRESS WITHIN A FIVE YEAR PERIOD REALLY SHOULD BE ANNUAL UPDATE.

YEAH. AND REPORTS UPDATES AND REPORTS. SO THIS IS THAT'S THE ACTION PART OF THIS PLAN. THE MONITORING? YES, THE MONITORING AND THE COMMITMENT WAS A FIVE YEAR OR AN ANNUAL.

WE'RE COMMITTING TO DO AN ANNUAL REPORT RATE UPDATE.

AND JUST TO GET BACK TO PAGE EIGHT REAL QUICK, I'M, I WAS LOOKING AT THE CITY OF COCOS INTRO TO THEIR PLAN.

THEY INSTEAD OF SAYING SPECIFIC GOALS AND RECOMMENDED OBJECTIVES, THEY USE LANGUAGE LIKE SUGGESTED GOALS AND RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES. SO IT'S JUST A LITTLE SOFTER. INSTEAD OF MAKING IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE MANDATING WORK FOR THE CITY.

I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. SO I WROTE DOWN RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES.

RIGHT. JESSICA, CAN YOU MAKE THAT SOUND LIKE A FULL SENTENCE? ALL RIGHT, GO BACK TO THAT STORY. I WAS KIND OF WORKING ON SOMETHING ELSE.

IT'S THE FIRST. IT'S THE FIRST SENTENCE OF PAGE EIGHT THAT HAS THE WORDS RECOMMENDED OBJECTIVES.

TO CHANGE THAT TO RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES. HOLD ON.

LET ME GET THERE. AND INSTEAD OF GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN THESE WOULD BE RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES.

RIGHT. AND JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. DON'T EVEN SAY ACTION PLAN.

JUST RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES. OKAY. I MEAN, THAT WAY IT GIVES US SOME ROOM TO.

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YOU KNOW, I MEAN. OKAY. SO GONNA HAVE TO BACK UP AGAIN.

SO I'M ON PAGE EIGHT. YOU WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING? RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES, WHERE IT SAYS IN OUR PLAN, EACH BROAD ELEMENT IS DEFINED WITH SPECIFIC GOALS.

AND WITHIN EACH GOAL, OUR RECOMMENDED OBJECTIVES FOR THE CITY.

WE WOULD CHANGE RECOMMENDED OBJECTIVES TO RECOMMENDED INITIATIVES.

SO WELL HOW IT'S ORGANIZED. IF YOU ACTUALLY GO INTO THE PLAN YOU'LL SEE.

GOAL AND OBJECTIVE. SO YOU'LL SEE LIKE GOAL GO ONE AND THEN UNDERNEATH IS OBJECTIVE.

SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY IT'S WORDED LIKE THAT. IT'S BECAUSE THIS THIS IS HOW THE PLAN IS STRUCTURED.

WELL THEN YOU COULD CHANGE THE WORD RECOMMENDED TO SUGGESTED OBJECTIVES IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE WORD OBJECTIVES.

I JUST I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THIS IS A DONE DEAL.

MOSTLY FOR THIS, FOR THE STAFF, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY COULD SAY POTENTIAL OBJECTIVES IF YOU WANT TO REALLY SOFTEN IT UP.

NO. HOW ABOUT WE JUST REMOVE THE WORD, RECOMMEND IT ALTOGETHER AND JUST SAY OBJECTIVELY OF THE OBJECTIVES.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. AND WOULD YOU LEAVE OUT JESSICA LOCAL BUSINESS AND COMMUNITY, I MEAN, LEAVE OUT THE REST OF THAT TOO, BECAUSE WE DID.

THAT'S BASED ON THAT. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN YOU GET TO THE MATRIX AND YOU'RE HAVING YOU WANT TO LIKE, IDENTIFY PARTNERS? ARE YOU NOT GOING TO THEN.

WELL, WE TOOK THOSE ALL OUT OF ALL THE OTHER GOALS WE USED TO HAVE SPECIFIC FOR PHYSICAL BUSINESSES.

YES. SO WE CAN TAKE IT OUT HERE I THINK I THINK THAT YOU WOULD I'M JUST TRYING TO I WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO SEE THAT IT'S A COLLECT.

SO WE NEED TO REWARD IT THAT IT'S A COLLECTIVE, COLLABORATIVE, COLLABORATIVE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO TO HELP JANE AND HER CONCERN.

SO HOW CAN WE AUDIT THAT OR REMOVE IT ALL TOGETHER? THAT'S FINE, BECAUSE IT DOES CALL OUT IN EACH OF THESE OBJECTIVES TO PARTNER WITH ANOTHER CITY, TO PARTNER WITH A NONPROFIT. IT DOES CALL OUT THOSE SPECIFICS.

I THINK THAT ACCOMPLISHES IT. THE LAST SENTENCE OF THE FIRST PARAGRAPH KIND OF ACCOMPLISHES THAT.

THESE MAY BE SPECIFIC TO MUNICIPAL OR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.

INDIVIDUAL, CITIZEN OR COMMUNITY WIDE ACTIONS ARE ALL OKAY.

THERE YOU GO. SO WHERE WAS THAT AT? IT'S THE NEXT SENTENCE.

SO IN OUR PLAN. THE SUBJECTIVE, THE SUBJECTIVE.

NO, THE SUGGESTED OBJECTIVES MAY BE SPECIFIC TO MUNICIPAL OR BUSINESS OPERATIONS, INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN OR COMMUNITY WIDE ACTIONS, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND THEN GO TO.

IT IS THE INTENTION OF. IT IS THE INTENTION THAT THE PLAN BE REVIEWED AT LEAST ANNUALLY, TO CONSIDER HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN FOR THE DURATION OF THAT YEAR.

LIVE OFF CITY STAFF. WELL, I KIND OF LIKE THE FIRST SENTENCE, LIKE JESSICA WAS SAYING, KIND OF EXPLAINS HOW THIS DOCUMENT IS ORGANIZED WITH GOALS AND THEN OBJECTIVES WITHIN THE GOALS. SO JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF KEEPING SOME OF THAT.

BUT ELIMINATING THE SECOND PART THAT SAYS FOR THE CITY, LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THE COMMUNITY AGREED TO HER.

WHAT? LET ME, LET ME LET ME JUST SHOW YOU WHAT I GOT RIGHT NOW AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK.

IT'S ACTUALLY JUST IT'S KIND OF A LONG SENTENCE, BUT IT'S ONE SENTENCE IN OUR PLAN, EACH BROAD ELEMENT IS DEFINED WITH SPECIFIC GOALS AND WITHIN EACH GOAL ARE OBJECTIVES WHICH MAY BE SPECIFIC TO MUNICIPAL OR BUSINESS OPERATIONS, INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS OR COMMUNITY WIDE ACTIONS, OR ALL OF THE ABOVE.

SO JUST IT'S ALL JUST ONE SENTENCE. OKAY. AND THEN.

ARE YOU SURE IT'S OKAY? YEAH. IT IS. AND THEN HAVE THE NEXT SENTENCE.

IT IS THE INTENTION. I DON'T LIKE CITY STAFF AND SUSTAINABILITY.

I DON'T LIKE TO OBLIGATE ANYBODY. EXCEPT OURSELVES.

IT IS THE INTENTION THAT THE PLAN BE REVIEWED, AT LEAST ANNUALLY, TO CONSIDER HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN FOR THE DURATION OF THAT YEAR.

YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THIS AND WITH THE WITH AN END GOAL OF FIVE YEARS FOR COMPLETE REVISION.

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CAN YOU SAY IT AGAIN OR DID YOU GET IT? JESSICA? NO I DIDN'T. YOU ALL MAY CATCH. I'M. I'M GETTING VERY CONCERNED THAT WE LEAVE ENOUGH TIME FOR THE NEXT.

YES. OBJECTIVE. I MEAN, NEXT AGENDA ITEM. YEAH, WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THIS.

SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD STRIKE THAT SECOND PARAGRAPH, ACTUALLY, AND GO RIGHT TO PRIMARY GOALS.

PROVIDE A FOUNDATION FOR GUIDING SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY EFFORTS.

THAT ONE'S MINE. AND THE SECOND ONE, I WOULD TAKE THE SECOND BULLET POINT I WOULD REMOVE, ESTABLISH GOALS AND JUST SAY, MEASURE PROGRESS IN EACH OF THE FIVE ELEMENTS OF THE OR MEASURE PROGRESS OF THE PLAN.

THE THIRD ONE, I THINK, IS I GUESS IT'S OKAY.

NO, TAKE IT OUT. TAKE IT OUT. YEAH. I'LL SAY YEAH.

TAKE OUT THE THIRD ONE. WHICH ONE ARE WE TAKING OUT? UPDATE THE CITY'S GREENHOUSE GAS. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WHOLE NEW BUILDING.

THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT. EDUCATION IS IN THE PLAN, SO I DON'T THINK WE WE CAN SAY REBECCA, I WOULD REMOVE THAT ONE AND JUST HAVE.

AS FOR THE LAST ONE, SAY UPDATE THE PLAN PERIODICALLY TO DEMONSTRATE OR TO QUANTIFY SUCCESS AND EVALUATE. WHAT DID I WHAT DID I SAY BEFORE? I JUST UPDATE THE PLAN PERIODICALLY? I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY IS IN THAT LAST SENTENCE. SEE IF IT IF IT WORKS FOR YOU AS THE PLAN IS DEVELOPED AND UPDATED, INCLUDE MEASURABLE INDICATORS TO BE USED TO EVALUATE AND QUANTIFY OUR SUCCESS AND IMPACT.

THOSE USE A LOT OF THE WORDS YOU DID WHICH IS UPDATE, QUANTIFY, MEASURE AND EVALUATE.

IF YOU LIKE THAT SENTENCE. I THINK THAT SENTENCE AND ALL THE REST OF IT CAN BE.

I THINK THE PRIMARY GOALS OF THE PLAN CAN BE STATED IN THAT SENTENCE.

I DON'T SEE MEASURABLE INDICATORS TO BE USED TO EVALUATE ITS IMPACT, TO EVALUATE AND QUANTIFY OUR SUCCESS.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO SAY IT'S BECAUSE WE'VE GOT AS THE PLAN IS DEVELOPED.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT INCLUDE WHERE'S THE IN SCOPE INSTEAD OF OUR OH, OKAY.

IT'S SUCCESS. SO IF WE SAY AS WE DEVELOP THE PLAN, WE COULD SAY OUR SUCCESS.

BUT SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN, IT IS ITS SUCCESS.

OKAY. PERFECT. SO NOW. SO ANY LAST COMMENTS? NOT TO HOLD US UP, BUT I SO WE'RE GOING TO PUT FIVE YEARS ON THIS OR I THINK I HEARD THAT WE'RE THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME SORT OF TIMETABLE. I KNOW THAT WE WANT TO TAKE SOME OF THESE ITEMS AND PUT INTO A YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

SO I WOULD SAY AT THE LEAST THAT WE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

IF WE ARE NOT COMFORTABLE, THEN WE SAY GO BACK TO THE GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN, COME UP FROM THE PRIMARY GOALS, GO BACK TO THE GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN. SO WE'RE CALLING THIS AN ITERATIVE PROCESS RATHER THAN A TARGET DATE.

REVISIT A PLAN AND UPDATING IT RIGHT WAS INTERRUPTED.

ARE YOU SAYING WE NEED A DATE A DEADLINE? I'M SAYING WE'VE ALREADY ADDED IT UP.

IN OUR DISCUSSION FOR GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN, WE CREATED THAT ONE LONG SENTENCE TO BE THE FIRST SENTENCE.

THE SECOND SENTENCE WILL READ IT IS THE INTENTION OF NO, IT IS THE INTENTION.

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THE PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED AT LEAST ANNUALLY TO CONSIDER HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN FOR THE DURATION OF THAT YEAR, WITH AN END GOAL OF FIVE YEARS. OKAY, RESTATE THAT AGAIN, SUSAN.

THE PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED. THE PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED AT LEAST ANNUALLY TO CONSIDER HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN FOR THE DURATION OF THAT YEAR, WITH AN END, WITH A COMPLETION.

NO, THAT DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT. WITH AN END GOAL OF FIVE YEARS.

MAKE IT SOUND RIGHT, JESSICA. HERE'S WHERE YOUR WORDS COULD COME IN.

REBECCA. HOW DO YOU. IT'S NOT REALLY AN END GOAL.

WHAT IF WE JUST SAY THAT THE FIVE YEAR YOUR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN WILL BE MONITORED AND REVIEWED ANNUALLY.

OKAY. HOW ABOUT THIS? THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN.

HOW ABOUT THAT? JESSICA, THIS IS FINE. THEN WE JUST DO THE FIRST SENTENCE.

THE FIVE YEAR, THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN. THE.

FIRST. IN OUR PLAN. EACH BROAD ELEMENT IS DEFINED WITH SPECIFIC GOALS.

SEE, I THINK WE HAVE THAT IN THE LAST BULLET POINT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SEPARATE. THAT'S KIND OF REDUNDANT.

WE HAVE THE PLAN DEVELOPED AND UPDATED. YOU WANT TO PUT FIVE YEAR PLAN IN THERE? THE PLAN THIS FIVE YEAR PLAN. TO INCLUDE OTHER PLACES. HAVE OTHER CITIES HAVE A DATE, A TARGET DATE.

BUT THAT'S TO SAY THE WORK IS DONE. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS I MEAN, CITIES ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME THING EVERYWHERE, WHERE SOME NEIGHBORHOODS BLOSSOM AND SOME, YOU KNOW, REGRESS OR THEY GET HIT BY A STORM AND THEY'RE ABANDONED.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO KEEP LOOKING AT THE WHERE OPPORTUNITY IS.

WE CAN'T SAY, OH, WE DID THAT PLAN. WE'RE DONE WITH IT.

WE HAVE TO KEEP LOOKING FOR. WAYS TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER TO HELP THE CITY.

THE PLAN WILL BE REVIEWED AT LEAST ANNUALLY TO COME IN CONSIDERATION OF IMPLEMENTATION FOR A ROLLING FIVE YEAR. ABOUT THIS WITH A FULL COMPLETION WILL BE.

WELL, SEE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOU IMPLEMENTING.

YEAH. I MEAN, WITH A FIVE YEAR. WELL, I THINK WE'RE COMPLETE REVISION WITH A FIVE YEAR COMPLETE WITH A FIVE YEAR REVISION GOAL OR SOME REVISION GOAL. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE COMPLETE IN FIVE YEARS.

NO, BUT I KNOW. SO WE GOT TO MAKE SURE WE LEAVE THAT DOOR OPEN.

I MEAN, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. I'VE NEVER SEEN A STRATEGIC OTHER THAN THIS ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME, EVEN THOUGH, WELL, JUST SOME OF IT ISN'T. SOME OF IT MAY NOT BE ATTAINABLE.

YOU PUT IN THE LITTLE TIMETABLE ONGOING OR IN PROGRESS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THIS THIS THING IS GOING TO BE REVISED. BUT FOR ME, AS I FIRST READ IT, I SAID, WELL, IS THIS A FIVE YEAR PLAN? IS THIS A ONE YEAR? LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? SO YOU ANY PLAN NORMALLY HAS A TIMETABLE.

TIMETABLE TO IT. OKAY. HOW ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE FIRST SENTENCE IN OUR PLAN.

EACH BROAD ELEMENT IS DEFINED WITH SPECIFIC GOALS.

THAT ARE INTENDED TO BE ACHIEVED WITHIN A FIVE YEAR.

FIVE YEAR? YEAH. THEN THEN YOU DO ANOTHER STRATEGIC PLAN AT THAT POINT.

ACHIEVED WITH A GOAL OF FIVE YEARS TO COMPLETELY.

I CAN'T SAY, BUT. I'M LOOKING AT COCOS. COCOS ONLY SAYS ONE YEAR.

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FIVE YEAR PLAN. WILL BE MONITORED AND REVIEWED ANNUALLY WITH A YEARLY IMPLEMENTATION ACTION PLANS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CALL OUT LIKE, EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE DONE IN FIVE YEARS, AND YOU SAY IT'S A FIVE YEAR PLAN, AND THEN THAT WE HAVE A YEARLY THAT WE HAVE THE MONITORING AND THE REVIEW OF IT, BECAUSE THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. PUT THAT IN THERE. AND THEN WE HAVE AN A YEARLY IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

DO YOU HAVE A WRITTEN DOWN. CAN YOU WRITE IT BACK.

NO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH THAT BEFORE.

SOUNDS GOOD. NO, REALLY. BECAUSE WE'LL DO ANOTHER STRATEGIC.

WHAT YOU DO IS A STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLAN FOR FIVE YEARS WITH ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION TIMEFRAME.

AND THEN AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, YOU SEE WHERE YOU ARE. YOU DO YOUR NEXT STRATEGIC PLAN.

RIGHT. EXACTLY. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO.

SOUNDS GREAT. CAN YOU TYPE THAT FAST? JESSICA? OKAY, IT'S JESSICA FINISHES THAT LAST EDIT. WE HOPE AT LAST EDIT.

POSSIBLY. THAT'S THE QUESTION. DO WE? ARE WE READY TO MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO OF NEW BUSINESS SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD? FUTURE PLANS AND INITIATIVES. WITH THAT 30 DAY.

TIME. NOT NOT THE STUFF IS THE. THE FIVE YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN WILL BE MONITORED AND REVIEWED ANNUALLY, AND A ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WILL BE DEVELOPED ANNUALLY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

ALL RIGHT, SO THEN ON ON THAT PAGE, WE'RE REMOVING THE BULLET.

THE THIRD BULLET. CORRECT. TALKING ABOUT THE GREENHOUSE GAS.

YES. OKAY, SO. AND THEN, REBECCA, WHAT WERE YOU SAYING? BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET HIT THIS OTHER SECTION.

I WAS ASKING IF WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT BUSINESS.

YEAH. FINISH WITH THE PLAN TO FINISH YOUR POINT THAT PRIMARY GOALS OF THE PLAN IS JUST ONE SENTENCE.

ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN DELETED EXCEPT THE FINAL SENTENCE.

YOU LOST ME THERE. WELL, YOU WERE JUST WRITING THE GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN.

NOW, COME DOWN TO PRIMARY GOALS OF THE PLAN. THAT IS JUST ONE SENTENCE.

THE FINAL SENTENCE. AS THE PLAN IS DEVELOPED AND UPDATED, BLAH BLAH, BLAH.

WE STRUCK THROUGH ONE, TWO, THREE. YES. YEAH.

I WOULDN'T HAVE I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

IT'S JUST THE SAME WITH THE GOAL. SO IT'S SAYING THAT IT'S PROVIDING THE FOUNDATION, THE GUIDANCE THAT HERE'S OUR GOALS AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MEASURE THEM, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROMOTE AWARENESS. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT.

YEAH. I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT WE'RE DELETING THE THIRD BULLET AND THE FOURTH BULLET AND THE SECOND BULLET.

WE WERE ELIMINATING THE FIRST THREE WORDS, AND THEN PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING ELSE STAYED. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE THAT? JESSICA? THE FIRST THREE WORDS AND THE SECOND BULLET IS GOING TO BE RIGHT.

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SO YEAH, THAT STARTS WITH MEASURE OF PROGRESS.

WE STRUCK THE NEXT ONE ENTIRELY. AND THEN THE THE LAST TWO ARE IN EDUCATE TO PROMOTE AND DEVELOP.

ALL RIGHT. SO THAT JUST HAS TWO SENTENCES. THEN KNOW THE FIRST BULLET POINT THE SECOND STARTING WITH MEASURE PROGRESS THIRD DELETED FOURTH DELETED THE FIFTH BEGINNING WITH AS THE PLAN.

THE ONLY CHANGE ON THAT IS FROM OUR SUCCESS AND IMPACT TO.

IT'S HARDER TO KEEP THE FOURTH BULLET. WHAT EDUCATION IS IN THE PLAN, SO I DON'T REALLY THINK IT'S NECESSARY, BUT I'M OKAY EITHER WAY.

BUT YES, THE LAST ONE. TO QUANTIFY ITS SUCCESS.

ALL RIGHT. SO THEN I KNOW THAT WE NEED TO MOVE ON, BUT I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT, AT LEAST FOR ON PAGE FOUR, THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SECOND BULLET.

AND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, I MEAN, WELL, AT THIS TIME, WHY CAN'T WE JUST.

WELL, JANE, HAVE YOU READ THE INTRODUCTION ABOUT THE CITY? IS IT CURRENT ENOUGH? IT'S ALREADY OUTDATED INFORMATION.

WHAT ARE WE? INTRODUCTION. INTRODUCTION. THE BEGINNING.

INTRODUCTION. IT'S ALREADY OUTDATED. I SAY GET RID OF THAT INTRODUCTION.

GET RID OF. ABOUT THE BOARD. WELL, IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE IN ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY, MAYBE, BUT JUST START WITH THE GOALS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP SOME OF THIS INTRODUCTION AND HISTORY IN HERE.

I MEAN, ALL THE COCO ONE HAS IT IN THERE ABOUT SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS ISN'T JUST OUR PLAN.

THIS IS LIKE OTHER PEOPLE READING IT THAT DON'T HAVE ALL THIS KNOWLEDGE.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE EITHER SCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING FOR THIS OR NOT, BECAUSE WE NEED TO DISCUSS A TOPIC THAT MIGHT MAKE US ALL THIS PLAN NOT EVEN BE DONE.

YOU WANT TO PUT A VOTE TO MOVING ON. YOU WANT TO SUGGEST THAT PUT A MAKE A MOTION MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

WELL, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE PART OF THAT MOTION THAT OKAY.

YES I DO. WHAT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT. JESSICA, WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION FOR COMPLETING THIS? I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE ARE AT A TIME IF WE CAN STAY FOCUSED AND JUST START, SAY, TAKE 20 MINUTES, BECAUSE THIS IS THE LAST PIECE. AND I THINK IF EVERY I MEAN, IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENTS, IF WE CAN GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THIS INTRODUCTION THAT THIS IS DONE AND THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH SUBMITTING IT, IF WE DO THAT, THEN ARE YOU ALL WILLING AND IS THE STAFF? ARE WE EVEN CAPABLE OF SPENDING AT LEAST AN HOUR ON THE NEXT AGENDA? I WOULDN'T. ON THE NEXT AGENDA. ON THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

I DO NOT WANT TO BE CUT SHORT. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE JUST ABOUT 30 MINUTES FOR THAT ITEM.

SO WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF RUNNING OVER THAT ITEM MUST BE TO COMPLETION.

YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT MORE FOCUS ON THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM BY THE TIME WE MAY BE DISSOLVED.

I THINK. BUT IF. BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM DEALS WITH THE INITIATIVES FOR THE NEXT 30 DAYS, IF YOU'RE DISSOLVED, IT'S NOT GOING TO MATTER MUCH ANYWAY WHAT THOSE INITIATIVES WERE. SO WITH THE ACTION PLAN BEING THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, IF YOU LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST AN OPTION IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THE SECOND ONE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, BECAUSE EITHER WAY, IF YOU DON'T FINISH THE ACTION PLAN NOW, YOU HAVE TO RELY ON FINISHING IT BY THE NEXT MEETING.

OKAY. AND AGAIN, WE'RE JUST IN THE SAME SITUATION.

JUST WHATEVER'S MORE IMPORTANT. OKAY. CAN WE EXTEND OUR MEETING EVEN 15 MINUTES BEYOND 08:00? I WOULD SAY IF WE COULD DO 15 WITH THIS INTRO AND THEN.

WELL, LET'S GET 15 FOR THE OTHER. OKAY. BUT THAT'S I MEAN, IS EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT SAID IF THE THESE FIRST COUPLE OF PAGES WERE BUTTONED UP, THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH SUBMITTING THIS, LET'S MOVE ON.

IF THAT. LET'S SPEND 15 MINUTES. SOMEBODY PUT A CLOCK ON US.

ALL RIGHT. SAY WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF REMOVING THE INTRODUCTION ABOUT THE CITY.

I THINK IF WE WERE TO KEEP PAGE FOUR ABOUT THE BOARD, THAT WE CORRECT THE SECOND BULLET, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE VERY FIRST THING THAT

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THE SUSTAINABILITY I THINK THAT'S JUST FLUFF.

AND THEN IF WE WANTED TO I THINK IT'S NICE TO HAVE IN THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S FLUFF AND THEN KEEP THE GOALS OF THE ACTION PLAN IN THERE.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. SO YOU'RE SAYING ELIMINATE THE INTRODUCTION, KEEP ABOVE THE BOARD, KEEP A VOTE AND THAT'S IT. THEN GO. SO BASICALLY YOU'RE SAYING DELETE PAGE TWO AND PAGE SIX.

PAGE TWO. PAGE THREE IS A PAGE THREE. TWO. PAGE TWO.

PAGE THREE. YEAH. MY VOTE IS. KEEP IT ALL BECAUSE I THINK WE.

I MEAN, MOST OF THE OTHER CITY PLANS HAVE IT, BUT THAT'S ABOUT THE ENTIRETY.

IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN? THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE THE INTRO? BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I RECOMMENDED WAS TO JUST DELETE THE INTRO ABOUT THE CITY BECAUSE IT IS OUTDATED, OR YOU NEED TO ADD TO IT. WE HAVE TO UPDATE IT.

THAT'S RIGHT. OH, I THINK I WAS THINKING OF PAGE FIVE TO DELETE THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.

IS ALL INFORMATION THAT'S INCORRECT. WE DO THE SAME.

THAT'S JUST STUFF THAT STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO DO VERY QUICKLY.

OH, NICE. THE INFORMATION THAT'S UNDER THAT. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING REVOLVES AROUND ALWAYS UPDATING.

SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN KEEPING JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AND GETTING RID OF THE REST OF THE INTRODUCTION, THEN WE CAN UPDATE THE INFORMATION ON THAT. OKAY.

GREAT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT SOLUTION.

PROBLEM SOLVER. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE WANT THAT THEN.

OKAY I'M HAPPY WITH THAT OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PARAGRAPH THAT'S STAYING.

THE REST IS GOING GREAT. THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF ABOUT THE CITY WILL BE UPDATED I SHOULD SAY OKAY.

BUT THEN IN RECENT YEARS THAT IS THAT CORRECT ERIC.

IS THAT. YEAH THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO CHANGE OKAY.

SO DELETE THAT AND THEN PAGE THREE DELETE IT TOO.

SO THEN THE NEXT TOPIC WILL BE ABOUT THE BOARD.

AND THEN. YEAH. WELL, MAYBE. MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S DEVELOPED AN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.

WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING ABOUT CLEAN ENERGY IN THIS FOR CITY OPERATIONS TO ENHANCE SUSTAINABILITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT BULLET BE CHANGED TO DEVELOP AN ENVIRONMENTAL SUSTAINABILITY PLAN FOR CITY OPERATIONS TO ENHANCE.

THAT'S IN THE NEXT ONE. DEVELOPMENT ASSESSMENT PLAN TO TRACK ACTIVITIES PROVIDED IN YOUR REPORT.

OKAY. SO I THINK WE CAN TAKE OUT THE SECOND ONE.

SO REMOVE THE SECOND BULLET ALTOGETHER. YEAH THAT'S GOOD.

DONE. I THINK THAT WE COULD TAKE OUT THE LAST ONE REVIEW ORDINANCES AND POLICIES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S UP TO THE.

WELL, THIS IS ON THE THE ORDINANCE. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT SECOND BULLET.

I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND TO REMOVE THAT LAST ONE.

OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE TO LEAVE IN THREE BECAUSE THAT CAN CHANGE.

BUT SO FAR, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE. WELL, IF WE'RE CHANGING THINGS, THAT FIRST SENTENCE ABOUT THE BOARD.

THE CITY OF PALM BAY CREATED ITS FIRST SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD.

HOW DID WE GET A PLAN IN 2010? WAS THERE NOT A SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD BACK THEN? THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE BOARD IS TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF, PERIOD. I THINK GETTING DOWN TO THE WEEDS WITH POLLUTION REDUCTION, WATER QUALITY INITIATIVES, COMMUNITY EDUCATION, ASSESSING LOCAL CLIMATE RISK AGAIN, THAT CLIMATE.

I MEAN, I DO AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE STAFF KNOW THIS, BUT I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.

THIS IS NOT JUST IN THIS PLAN. IT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THEY WOULD NEED TO VERIFY THAT. YEAH. I THINK WE CAN TAKE OUT THE PARAGRAPH THAT STARTS WITH AFTER THE SEVEN MEMBER BOARD WAS CREATED. YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH WITH THE REST OF THE PAGE BECAUSE THEY'LL FIND OUT IF THEY KEEP GOING.

I AM IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THAT LAST PARAGRAPH AS WELL.

THAT STARTS OUT AFTER THE SEVEN MEMBER BOARD AND ALL THE BULLET POINTS.

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THE BULLET POINTS. YEAH. JUST THE I THINK THAT THAT'S ON THE NEXT WE'RE TAKING OUT THE NEXT PAGE ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY.

NOPE. SORRY. TOBACCO. OR ARE WE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO REMOVE THE LAST PARAGRAPH ON PAGE FOUR? THAT STARTS WITH THE WORDING AFTER THE SEVEN MEMBER BOARD.

THAT PARAGRAPH AND THEN THOSE BULLETS. I WOULD.

I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY. AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT ON THE NEXT PAGE.

THE PAGE. YEAH. NEEDS TO. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY.

SO PAGE SIX. I THINK THAT THAT CAN GO AND THEN WE CAN JUST GO RIGHT INTO THE.

THEN THE NEXT ONE IS THE GOALS OF THE PLAN. I MEAN, I'M IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT.

IT'S JUST DEFINITIONAL. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST IT'S FLUFF.

THEY WANT TO LEARN ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. IT'S IT'S A NICE TO HAVE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

YEAH. MOST CITIES HAVE THAT. WELL, THEN LET'S LEAVE IT IN.

AND THAT CAN BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE TAKE A DEEPER LOOK AT IF WE WANT TO UPDATE THE WORDING.

ALL RIGHT. SO JUST TO RECAP ON PAGE TWO, THE ONLY PARAGRAPH THAT'S SAYING IS THE THE FIRST AND THAT'LL BE UPDATED BY CITY STAFF.

THE REST IS BEING REMOVED. PAGE FOUR. WE HAVE REMOVED THE SECOND BULLET POINT ALTOGETHER.

HOLD ON UP. YES. HOLD ON. I RECOMMENDED TO IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH THAT WE STOP AFTER ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND CITY STAFF.

PERIOD. DO NOT HIGHLIGHT CERTAIN MATTERS. DON'T.

DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST TYPED UP IN A PLAN. I THINK THIS IS PART OF AN ORDINANCE, A MORE FORMAL DOCUMENT THAT THAT PIECE THERE.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THE ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHED US? YES. RIGHT. BECAUSE MAYBE THE CITY CHECK THAT OUT OR SOMETHING.

WELL, I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE IT IF I CAN FIND IT RIGHT HERE.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T JUST STOP IT. JUST BECAUSE WE'RE HERE TO ADVISE, PERIOD.

JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T COMPLETE THE WHOLE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE I DON'T THINK IS IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, HOW ARE THE OTHER MEMBERS FEEL? I MEAN, THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S JUST LIKE.

YOU ARE, RIGHT. JESSICA, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON OUR.

WHEN WE WERE HERE, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT INCLUDED THAT LANGUAGE.

HOWEVER, THAT IS GOING TO BE THE VERY THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE COME BACK.

THAT. WELL, THAT'LL BE THE NEXT TIME. NO, AND WE CAN GO BACK TONIGHT.

I THINK THIS IS A PROBLEM. IS THIS PURPOSE IS OUTDATED.

AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON THE BOARD, THE CITY COUNCIL, IS LOOKING TO DISSOLVE US.

THIS HAS TO BE LOOKED AT. I THINK THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT 100%.

AND THEY THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO OVERREACH ON BUILDING CODES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ABOUT.

I THINK THIS DOES EXPLAIN IT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD OBVIOUSLY GET THAT 100% OUT OF THERE.

WOULD BE THE FIRST THING WE ALL AGREE. OH, NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

BUT THAT WAS THE ISSUE WITH COUNCIL. ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH COUNCIL, I WOULD SAY THAT FOR THIS PLAN PURPOSE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET DONE THAT, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW TODAY, THAT WE'VE AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD. AND THEN THEN ONCE WE HAVE THAT UPDATE, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS LANGUAGE.

HOW ABOUT IF WE SAY THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE BOARD AS ORIGINALLY CREATED IS TO ADVISE, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN LIKE TO ADVISE AND ASSIST PUT A PERIOD AFTER THAT.

WELL, I AGAIN, I THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO USE WHAT WAS IN AN ORDINANCE TO CREATE US.

AND UNTIL WE ADJUST THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S. YEAH, EXACTLY.

YOU NEED TO DO STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TODAY. AND THEN WHEN THAT IS REVISED, YOU GO BACK AND REVISE THIS PLAN.

I MEAN, THAT'S SOME ACTION TO ADJUST AN ORDINANCE.

WE CAN'T JUST, LIKE MARK IT UP AND SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THE ORDINANCE.

JUST SAY TO ADVISE AND ASSIST THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER THAT'S ABROAD.

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WE'RE JUST NOT SAYING IN THIS PLAN WE'RE NOT EVEN QUOTING THAT.

IT'S THE ORDINANCE HERE. WE'RE JUST USING WORDS.

THEY HAPPENED TO THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT, THOUGH, WAS TO QUOTE THE AUTHOR.

MAYBE IT WAS, BUT I'M SAYING DON'T DO IT. I THINK WE NEED SOME ADVICE.

RECOMMENDATION? IT'S JUST AN ORDINANCE. IT IS THE.

THAT'S THAT'S NOT IN OUR PURVIEW. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S PERTINENT TO OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE OR IF THE WORDING HERE WAS I MEAN, I THINK THE INTENT IS TO GIVE US A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LATITUDE, BUT WE DON'T I HAVE NOT READ THE ORDINANCE AS ANYONE, SO WE CAN'T REALLY. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GETTING OFF ON THAT.

LET'S. ALL RIGHT. I THINK I'M AGREEING WITH KEEPING IT ON THERE AS IS REMOVING THAT SECOND BULLET, BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL HAS ALREADY SAID.

OTHERWISE, I WOULDN'T BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT BECAUSE IT IS IN AN ORDINANCE, RIGHT? WE NEED TO AGREE. WE'VE ALREADY AGREED ON THE FIRST PAGE. WE'RE ON PAGE FOUR.

ARE WE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS OR NOT? I'M OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

AND THAT'S REMOVING THAT LAST PARAGRAPH AS WELL.

THAT STARTS AFTER THE SEVEN MEMBER THAT'S BEING REMOVED RIGHT.

WITH THE BULLETS. SO DO WE NEED A RIGHT. I AGREE WITH JANE.

YEAH. SO SUSAN WE'LL GO BACK AND UPDATE IT IF IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.

IT'S OKAY. IT PASSES WITH THREE. I AGREE. BUT WE'LL GO BACK AND UPDATE IT ONCE IT'S ONCE THE ORDINANCE IS UPDATED. WE'LL GET BACK IN THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO SUSTAINABILITY.

ARE WE KEEPING THIS? YES OR NO? I VOTE YES. YES.

NO, WE DON'T NEED THREE. JANE, YOU VOTED YES.

YES. SO. OKAY. THERE'S THINGS IN HERE THAT I LIKE AND THINGS I DON'T LIKE. I WOULD SAY. WAIT A MINUTE.

I THOUGHT I WOULD TAKE OUT THE GOAL. I WOULD TAKE OUT THE GOAL WAS TO GRAB GREENER INITIATIVES.

I WOULD TAKE OUT ALL THE WAY THAT SENSE TRIPLE.

BOTTOM LINE. THAT SENTENCE, THE ONE AFTER IT.

SO I WOULD HAVE THE FIRST SENTENCE AND THEN TAKE OUT.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO OBJECT TO YOU ALL. WE ARE BEYOND OUR 15 MINUTES.

OKAY. PLEASE. WE COULD BE AT THIS ALL NIGHT. LET'S JUST KEEP IT IN SO WE CAN MOVE ON, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND ADD IT IF NEED BE.

OKAY. OKAY. WE PUT THAT TO A MOTION. ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THIS IS FINAL WITH THESE EDITS AND THAT WE'RE OKAY TO GO AHEAD AND SAY, HEY, HEY, HERE'S HERE'S THE 2025 SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN.

YES, I GATHER THAT'S WAITING FOR A MOTION TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO DO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO VOTE. WE'RE GOING TO NEED A VOTE. YES.

IT'S A YES FOR ME. SO WE HAVE ONE. YES. DO WE HAVE THE MOTION? YES. WHAT'S THE MOTION? THE MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM TO APPROVE THE PLAN AS TO, YOU KNOW, TO APPROVE THE PLAN FOR SUBMISSION TO COUNCIL BASIS AND MOVE TO THE NEXT.

YES. APPROVALS TONIGHT. RIGHT. THE EDITS ARE COMPLETE FOR THE MOMENT.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ON? YES. YES, WE HAVE A MOTION. SOMEBODY WANT A SECOND? OKAY. AND A VOTE. YES YES YES YES. SO. SO CAN WE GET.

SO HOW'S THE STAFF? I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS IS THE FINALIZED ACTION PLAN OF 2025 FOR THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD? ARE YOU GOING TO ADOPT THIS ACTION PLAN? AND ONCE THE CITY DOES ITS PART? YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO GET COUNSELED.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO THEM FOR APPROVAL.

RIGHT. OKAY. SO IS THAT THAT'S AFTER CITY STAFF PROVIDES YOU WITH THE OTHER INFORMATION.

SO WE STILL HAVE AN EDIT TO MAKE AT THAT POINT.

OKAY. EDITS AS WELL. SO THEN AT THE NEXT SUSTAINABILITY MEETING, ONCE THAT'S ALL COMPILED, WE NEED TO VOTE ON FINALIZING AND ADOPTING THE ACTION.

THAT'S WHAT WE WERE DOING NOW WITH THOSE EDITS.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT A VOTE TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

OKAY. AND I'M VOTING THAT WITH THOSE EDITS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT.

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THEY'RE NOT THEY DON'T EXIST YET. SO YOU CAN'T VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T PROVE.

AND IT'S THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN. YEAH. YOU CAN'T.

YOU CAN'T APPROVE WHAT'S NOT YET WRITTEN. SO WE CAN GET YOU THAT INFORMATION.

BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A TANGIBLE OBJECT YET.

RIGHT. SO COULD YOU JUST SEND THE FINAL COPY THROUGH EMAIL? AND WE'RE STILL MOVING FORWARD WITH SAYING THAT EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WITH THESE UPDATES THAT WE HAVE MADE TONIGHT AND THAT IT BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN THEIR NEXT MEETING THAT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE A PHYSICAL MOTION DURING YOUR, YOUR MEETING AND THEN EVERYBODY VOTE ON IT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO IT OVER EMAIL. WELL, WOULDN'T BE EVERY EMAIL, JUST THAT WE'RE GETTING A FINAL COPY.

WE'VE DONE IT TONIGHT. WE WE. WELL, YEAH. ONCE, ONCE IT'S ALL PUT TOGETHER, WE CAN EMAIL THE BOARD AND SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY.

BUT THE ACTUAL MOTION WOULD HAVE TO BE MADE AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT THIS IS THE FINALIZED COPY.

WE'RE GOING TO ADOPT IT. WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL.

I DIDN'T I DIDN'T THINK THAT'S HOW. I MEAN, WE CAN WE CAN CONFIRM THAT BECAUSE THEN THAT MEANS WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEND THIS UNTIL JULY.

SEPTEMBER. THEY WON'T GET THIS UNTIL SEPTEMBER.

AND I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH HOW THAT WORKS.

IF YOU LIKE, WHEN WE FINISH DOING THE EDITS, THE CORRECTION THAT YOU NEED, WE COULD DO A DRAFT.

WE COULD DO A DRAFT TO SEND THOSE BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE CHANGES THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE AS WELL.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT. SO ONCE WE SEND A DRAFT IN YOUR PROPOSAL, THIS IS OUR DRAFT.

THEY REVIEW IT, THEY APPROVE IT. THEN WE CAN FINALIZE IT, VOTE ON IT AND KNOW IT'S BEEN ADOPTED.

OKAY. YEAH. YOU KNOW LIKE BECAUSE THEN IT ACTUALLY WOULD BE FINAL.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE COUNCIL STAMP OF APPROVAL.

SO IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED. WE PROBABLY NEED TO. OKAY. SO MANAGER AND BUT DO THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT AT THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING.

AND HOW WOULD WE. THAT WAS MY QUESTION IS HOW DO WE GET IT ON THEIR AGENDA? I WOULD WE WOULD FINALIZE IT ONCE WE GET ALL THE EDITING.

AND I WILL SEND IT TO THE CITY MANAGER. HERE IS THE DRAFT TO BE VIEWED BY COUNCIL BECAUSE HE MEETS WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEY CAN DISCUSS IT AND TO LET US KNOW WHAT ELSE THEY NEED.

WE CAN MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT AS WE GO ALONG. LET YOU GUYS KNOW AND THEN ONCE IT'S GOOD FOR THEM TO GO, THEY WILL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. SO WOULD IT GO ON THE AUGUST 7TH AGENDA? NOT QUITE SURE. MAYBE BECAUSE THE NEXT MEETING IS WE'RE FINISHED WITH JULY.

SO AUGUST MAYBE. MAYBE THE SECOND. PROBABLY DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH STUFF THEY'VE GOT ON THEIR AGENDA.

WELL, IT'S ONLY ONE SECTION THAT Y'ALL HAVE TO UPDATE.

I'M SORRY. IT'S ONLY ONE SECTION THAT YOU'RE HAVING TO UPDATE.

NO. YES, I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST SAYING THAT SOMETIMES THEY FINALIZE THEIR AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING ALREADY, BUT I CAN SEND IT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW. OKAY.

IF YOU WANT IT ON THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST, IT HAS TO GET ON TO THEIR AGENDA AND PRIOR MEETING.

SO MAKE SURE JUST TO RESTATE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT WHAT DEREK WAS SAYING, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THAT I'LL SEND OUT THESE EDITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT. RIGHT. YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO UPDATE THAT ONE PARAGRAPH.

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEND US KIND OF THE THE DRAFT OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT TO COUNCIL. WE'LL SEND IT TO CITY MANAGER OFFICE AND HE WILL MEET WITH THE COUNCIL WITH IT.

OKAY. YEAH. WELL, WE'LL TRY TO GET IT ONTO THE AGENDA, RIGHT? WELL, I CAN LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU WANT IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT FOR THEM TO REVIEW AND ALL THAT, IT'S COMING IN. YEAH, WHICH PROBABLY SHOULD BE BOTH, I WOULD THINK. BUT I DON'T KNOW YOUR PROCESS.

I CAN'T PUT IT IN THE EMAIL TO HIM THAT IT'S.

YOU WANT IT ON THE OFFICE AGENDA. OKAY. AGENDA.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE WE GOT IT BECAUSE IT'LL BE IN DRAFT.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. YEP. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT.

ALSO ADD WITH TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WITH A SECTION FOR A PRESENTATION.

OKAY. YOU WANT TO DO A PRESENTATION. OKAY. WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE IT OFF.

BUT TO GET A PLACEHOLDER. YES I THINK STRATEGICALLY WE'VE GOT A 30 DAY WINDOW TO AUGUST 21ST.

ANYTHING WE'RE GOING TO DO PUBLICLY, THE MORE WE CAN DO, THE MORE VISIBLE WE ARE.

AND THE PRESENTATION CAN BE SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS JUST.

HERE IT IS. BUT WE ARE VISIBLE IN THERE WITH WITH THE PRESENTATION, YOU GET TEN MINUTES.

OKAY. YEAH. AND THEN THEY COULD ASK QUESTIONS.

IT COULD BE A REAL DIALOG. OKAY. SO SEND AN EMAIL OR TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR AUGUST AND ALSO REQUEST A PRESENTATION.

YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO A PRESENTATION. YES. OKAY.

AND WOULD THAT BE THE 21ST OR THE 77TH? OKAY.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TRY THE SEVENTH LIGHT AND WE'LL BE HERE ON THE 21ST.

SO YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION READY.

SEND IT TO US. IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT HAS TO UPLOAD THE PRESENTATION FOR YOU TO COMMENT.

YEAH. DOES THAT SOUND IN LINE WITH WHAT? YEAH.

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SO IS IT LIKE A DAY BEFORE YOU CAN PUT A HOLD THE PLACEHOLDER? I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. YOU KNOW SOMETHING? MAYBE.

WHAT? EMAIL. JUST FIGURE IT OUT. COME UP WITH A FEW PICTURES.

OKAY. IF NEED BE. FIRST SEE IF WE CAN. BUT. OKAY.

IS THERE A COUNCIL MEETING BEFORE THE SEVENTH? NO. OKAY. NO. NO, BUT THERE ARE TOWN HALLS. THERE'S ACTIVITY THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS AND SHOW UP.

WHICH, IF WE GET TO THE NEXT SEGMENT. YEAH. GOOD JOB LADIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. SO, JESSICA, AS PAINFUL AS IT WAS.

THANK YOU FOR HELPING US BRING THIS TO COMPLETION.

WE WERE AND AND THE REST OF US TOO. THAT'S RIGHT AS WELL.

LET'S GO. OKAY. OKAY. WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. IT'S UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU. AS SOON AS I'M SPEAKING ON THE NEXT ONE, I LOST MY PAPER.

OKAY. IF YOU WANT ME TO TAKE THAT. REBECCA, I YOU ALL KNOW THAT ON ON THE LAST. PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF DISSOLVING BOARDS THAT WERE HAVING ISSUES WITH QUORUM TWO BOARDS, SPECIFICALLY THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE ADVISORY AND OVERSIGHT BOARD WERE NAMED. AND IT WAS VOTED ON GOING TO A VOTE FOR COUNCIL TO DISSOLVE THESE BOARDS BECAUSE IT IS A COSTING THE CITY TO MAINTAIN, MAINTAIN OUR STAFF THAT'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE BOARDS.

AND IF THERE IS LACK OF PARTICIPATION THAT'S COSTING THE CITY.

SO COUNCILMAN HAMER SUGGESTED THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING A VOTE THAT NIGHT, THAT HE WOULD PERSONALLY TAKE IT UPON HIMSELF TO WORK WITH BOTH THESE BOARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT QUORUM THAT PEOPLE COULD BE APPOINTED TO THE BOARDS AND THAT HE WOULD HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MAKING THEM OPERATE BETTER. THAT WOULD BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY IS ASKING.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO SAY TO OUR BOARD TONIGHT IS THAT TO ME, LACK OF QUORUM IS NOT A REASON TO DISSOLVE A BOARD, BUT IT'S A SYMPTOM OF A PROBLEM THAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR CITY AND WITH THE OTHER BOARDS.

PART OF IT IS CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND PARTICIPATION OF PEOPLE TO SIT ON THE BOARDS.

BUT ANOTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THESE BOARDS ARE COMPRISED THE SEVEN PEOPLE BOARDS.

FIVE OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

SO IT'S A WORKING EFFORT TO FOR CITY COUNCIL TO APPOINT.

WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING. AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE BOARD OUR OUR QUORUM ISSUES WERE RELATED TO. COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT APPOINTING.

WE HAVE A NEW COUNCIL. SO THIS IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE.

WHEN YOU HAVE A NEW COUNCIL IT'S PART OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES.

IT'S A LOT TO MANAGE. AND I THINK THE THE ROLE OF STAFFING THESE BOARDS IS OF A HIGHER NATURE THAN WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS SO MANY ISSUES RIGHT NOW.

BUT SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM TONIGHT.

WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS RELEVANCE.

HOW HOW DO WE SEE THIS BOARD? HOW IS THIS BOARD RELEVANT?

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WHERE NOW IN 2025 NEW PEOPLE, NEW. EVERYTHING IS NEW.

SO AT THE VERY LEAST, A STARTING POINT IS TO ADVISE COUNCIL WHAT WE KNOW TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THIS BOARD. WHY ARE WE SERVING ON THIS BOARD? WHAT HAS BROUGHT US HERE? TO ENGAGE COUNSEL, TO KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING AND COLLABORATING AND USING IDEAS.

THAT IS THE HEARTBEAT OF WELL-RUN GOVERNMENT.

AND SO WE HAVE THEY WILL. SO COUNCILMAN HAMMER IS HE STARTED BY RECOMMENDING IN HIS COMMENTS TO COUNCIL THAT HE HAD IDEAS THAT HAD TO DO WITH GRANTS, THAT WE CAN BE VITAL IN THE CITY BRINGING IN GRANT MONEY FOR SUSTAINABLE PROJECTS.

PROJECTS. WE KNOW THE CITY NEEDS INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE KNOW THERE'S ALREADY ISSUES WITH THE WATER QUALITY.

AND SO HE'S RECOMMENDING THAT THIS BOARD COULD BE AN ASSET IN THE WORK WE DO, AND JUST HAVING A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, SUCH AS WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, WERE MENTIONED IN THEIR THEIR GUIDE THAT THEY APPLY FOR.

THEY GO BY THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE TALK ABOUT STORMWATER.

SO WHAT WE DO IMPACTS GRANTS I MEAN FUNDING THAT THE CITY ALREADY RECEIVES.

SO TONIGHT I WANTED TO TALK TO EACH OF YOU AND SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO? IT RESTS WITH US. AND THAT'S THE EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT TO YOU.

IS THAT TONIGHT WE MAKE HISTORY. WE EITHER. SHOW.

THAT WE ARE RELEVANT OR WE. LET THE COURSE OF COUNCIL HAPPEN, WHICH WILL BE TO DISSOLVE BOARDS. AND WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL THE AUGUST 21ST MEETING. THAT'S WHEN THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN. INTERESTINGLY, ALSO AT THAT MEETING, THEY WILL BE DEALING WITH ANOTHER ISSUE INVOLVING CITIZEN PARTICIPATION. AND THAT IS THE THE CITY HAS RECENTLY REMOVED PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE LIVE STREAM OF THE MEETINGS. SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RELEVANCE, THESE TWO ARE VERY MUCH CONNECTED FOR THE USE OF CITIZENS AND THE VALUE OF CITIZENS. AND WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER NEEDS TO BE.

WE NEED TO BE SEEN AND WE NEED TO BE HEARD. TOO.

I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT. AND I THINK THAT IT ALSO IS DISAPPOINTING THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AGAIN. YES. WHEN I DON'T THINK THAT COUNCIL REALLY UNDERSTANDS WHAT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO.

I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF YOUR POINT TO TALK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT I DO WANT TO GO BACK TO WHAT YOU HAD SAID, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE AN ISSUE. AND THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY BACK IN THE DECEMBER MEETING TO COUNCIL HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ISSUE? LET'S ADDRESS, AS YOU SAID, THE ROOT CAUSE.

SO WHAT IS IT? AND I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING AGAIN, THAT IF NOT, MEETING QUORUM WAS THE MAIN MOTIVATION BEHIND THIS THAT WE'RE BEING HELD UP TO THAT STANDARD WHEN IT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AGAIN ABOUT THE LETTER THAT WE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL, ASKING THAT WE CAN ADVERTISE FOR THOSE NOW THREE VACANCIES ON OUR WEBSITE, BECAUSE I KNOW ADVERTISING IS AN ISSUE OF KNOWING, EVEN IF THEY

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SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE FOR ME TO GO BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR US.

WHATEVER. LIKE, HERE IS WHAT WE DO. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT A DEFICIT BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HELP US WITH.

WE'VE TRIED AND WE'VE BEGGED. I MEAN, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON BOARD SINCE NOVEMBER.

YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERY SINGLE MEETING WE HAVE MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE COUNCIL APPOINTED VACANCIES AND HOW WE CAN GET HELP TO GET THOSE FILLED BY THE COUNCIL.

WE HAD A GENTLEMAN COME AND SAY THAT HE'S ALREADY APPLIED.

WE'VE ASKED ABOUT THE STATUS. NOTHING. THERE IS THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT. THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME SORT OF DISCONNECT.

IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO REALLY TALK THROUGH THAT DISCONNECT, TO FIGURE OUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A HEALTHY BOARD.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE RIDICULED AND HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD WHEN WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

IF YOU BRING A PILE OF APPLICANTS TO COUNCIL, ARE THEY ACTUALLY GOING TO TO LOOK THROUGH THEM AND YOU KNOW, APPOINT ONE BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE THE ONE WITH JAMES AND THAT NOTHING'S HAPPENED, RIGHT? I THINK THAT, YES, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SAY WHAT WE DO, BUT I THINK IT'S ROOT CAUSE WE GET TO TO FILL THESE VACANCIES.

BECAUSE UNTIL THAT'S DONE, THIS CAN'T REALLY BE A HEALTHY BOARD TO BE US FOR.

SO MAY I SAY SOMETHING? SO YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA ABOUT THE PRESENTATION.

AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TRUE. SO THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN VOICE YOUR OPINION TO THE COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT THE BOARD IS ALL ABOUT. YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MEETING QUORUM, I THINK SINCE I'VE BEEN WE HAVE MET QUORUM AT ONE TIME, ONCE OR TWICE. THAT COULD BE SOMETHING IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

YOU COULD MENTION THE APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, APPOINTING PEOPLE THAT THAT'S A FACTOR.

SO YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU CAN USE THAT TO SELL THE BOARD TO SELL THE COUNCIL.

WHAT THE BOARD IS ALL ABOUT. YOU'VE BEEN REDOING YOUR ACTION PLAN.

I MEAN THERE'S SO MUCH YOU CAN DO. YOU CAN ALSO MENTION TRY AND FIND WAYS OF FINDING FUNDING.

YOU KNOW, WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE FOR FUNDING? AND IF YOU GET GRANT MONEY, IT WILL THE CITY HELP TO SUSTAIN THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE GRANTS.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO. HOW DO YOU GET MONEY TO FUND YOUR YOUR BOARD IF YOU NEED TO DO LIKE THE FEAR THAT WE DIDN'T GET TO DO, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT. SO, SO SO MIKE HAMMER WANTS TO GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE.

AND THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. THIS IS YOUR OPEN DOOR TO SAY WHAT YOU DO.

WHAT CAN YOU DO FOR THIS? AND I'M ALSO CONFUSED BECAUSE THE DECEMBER MEETING, THE ATTORNEY HAD MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMP PLAN, IT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU HAVE A BOARD IN PLACE.

THERE'S LANGUAGE. IT'S TIED TO ORDINANCES. AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH KIND OF SETTLED THAT POINT.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE COUNCIL HAS FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T EVEN THIS. TO ME, THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME. EVERYBODY COULD BE GOING HOME RIGHT NOW. SO.

AGAIN, I MEAN, THAT WAS WHAT, 10:00 THAT NIGHT DOING THE SAME THING.

IT'S REALLY DISAPPOINTING. BUT WHAT DO YOU. WHAT'S THE WASTE OF TIME? ARE YOU TALKING THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW? I AGREE WITH WITH JESSICA SAYING I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION I THINK WE COULD POINT OUT TO THE COUNCIL. SO IN THE MISS FOR IT SAYS WE HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD.

IF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD GOES AWAY. WHAT IS THE IMPACT TO THE ATMOSPHERE? IS THAT A BIG IMPACT, A NO BRAINER? OR WHAT DO WE KNOW? IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT INTO UPDATING THE MIS FOR IF WE CAN'T FIND A SOCIABLE WAY TO MEASURE THE GOAL THAT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD IS MENTIONED IN.

I BELIEVE THAT'S TABLE TWO, CHAPTER TWO OF THE MIS FOUR.

RIGHT? IT WOULD BE PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO FDP ABOUT.

I KNOW THAT YOU CAN UPDATE THE MIS FOR. SO IF THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD DID GO AWAY FOR WHATEVER REASON AND WE COULDN'T FILL THAT VOID, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO UPDATE IT AND GET THE PERMIT RENEWED.

AND OKAY. THE END OF THE WORLD. BUT I SUPPOSE NOT.

IT'S NOT THE GREATEST OPTION IN THE WORLD, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EASY WAY FOR US TO TO MEET THAT REGULATION.

YEAH, I PERSONALLY, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE EMBARRASSING FOR A CITY THE SIZE OF PALM BAY TO NOT HAVE A SUSTAINABILITY BOARD. I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GOING TO TELL ME THAT DEP WOULD, LIKE, SMACK US ON THE HEAD OR SOMETHING.

NO. UNFORTUNATELY NOT. I THINK WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO THE ATTORNEY WAS SAYING THAT,

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AND IF THEY WERE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO MITIGATE THE THE RISK IN BETWEEN.

BUT NOT TO SAY THAT THEY COULDN'T, BUT IT'S THERE FOR A REASON.

IT JUST SAYS LIKE THE STORMWATER HAS MENTIONED THE DIFFERENT FUNDINGS AND STUFF.

THAT'S WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOO. WELL, I, I THINK THAT WE TRULY HAVE AN ACE CARD, AS THEY SAY, ACE IN THE HOLE IS THAT I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH.

THAT WE MAY BE NON DISSOLVABLE. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROACH THIS PROBLEM AND USE THAT ONLY AS THE FINAL CART TO BE LAID DOWN. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO FIRST IS SAY WE TOO ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. WE TOO HAVE NOT FOLLOWED THIS WHICH TALKS ABOUT REGULAR REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL, ENGAGING THE COUNCIL IN DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED FROM US, WHICH CHANGES.

I WOULD ALSO CHALLENGE THAT IF HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THIS BOARD WERE DISSOLVED, WHERE WE HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE, THAT SHOULD BE YOU SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IT SHOULD BE A FORMAL PROCESS. AND IT CAN'T JUST BE, OH, WE WANT TO DISSOLVE THIS BOARD.

LET'S DO THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S EVEN. THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT TO HOW YOU COULD DO THAT.

WELL, WE MAY FIND OUT. WE MAY FIND OUT. BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AND I'M GLAD THAT WE ALL AGREE THAT WE CAN GET THIS PLAN OUT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TRY TO HIT THAT AUGUST 7TH DATE, IF WE CAN, INSTEAD OF THE 21ST.

BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF EMBARRASSING FOR THEM, FOR US TO DO A PRESENTATION AND SHOW WHAT GREAT WORK WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND THEN FOR THEM TO DISSOLVE US SO. WELL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AT THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING.

BUT WHAT I'M WANTING FROM EACH OF YOU, BECAUSE WE REPRESENT THE CITY RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE VERY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE WHOLE CITY, BUT IN TERMS OF ZIP CODES AND POPULATION MAKEUP AND STUFF.

HOWEVER, WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE STEPPED FORWARD TO TAKE A LEADERSHIP ROLE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WE TOO ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE OF REVISING A PLAN THAT WAS FIRST DONE IN 2010.

BUT WE HAVE NOW. WE'RE A DIFFERENT, WE'RE A DIFFERENT.

THEY WANT TO DISSOLVE A BOARD AND HAPPENINGS THAT OCCURRED IN PRIOR YEARS.

WE'VE HAD QUORUM FOR A YEAR OR SO. MAYBE WE COULD GET STATISTICS ON THAT.

OH, THEY HAD AN ATTACHED. SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS LIKE THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE AGENDAS.

IT WAS IT WAS PROBABLY LIKE THEY MISSED HALF.

WHEREAS FROM LAST YEAR I THINK THERE WAS THREE, TWO WERE WEATHER RELATED AND ONE WAS IN THE QUORUM.

AND THEN THE ONE FOR THIS THAT SAID, NO REASON, BUT IT WAS FOR HEALTH.

THE. YEAH. SO IT'S A STRUCTURE. YES. IT TRULY HAS TO ME AGAIN, IF WE WERE JUDGING ON NUMBERS INFRASTRUCTURE VERSUS SUSTAINABILITY. AGAIN, THAT IT'S JUST NOT NOT REASONABLE TO GET BACK TO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL IS OUR FACES AND OUR PERSONAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS IS FROM ALL OF US. THAT WE WILL BE THAT WE WILL BE DELIVERING REPORTS BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID. I DON'T SEE ANY REPORTS. WELL GUESS WHAT.

THEY'RE IN THEIR THOUSAND PAGE PACKET. THEY GET THE REPORTS, BUT THEY NEED SOMETHING MORE.

THEY NEED TO SEE US. THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM US.

WE NEED TO READ THE REPORT SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS TO GET DOCUMENTS, EVEN IF IT'S JUST ABOUT TAKING THINGS FROM OUR MINUTES OF.

LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE PRESENTED HERE.

LOOK AT ALL THE IMPACT WE HAVE HAD. THIS NEEDS TO BE.

I AGREE, BUT I MEAN FOR THE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON BOARD WITH, THE ONLY THING THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON IS EITHER JUSTIFYING WHY WE SHOULD BE HERE OR DOING THIS PLAN. SO, I MEAN, I THINK THAT SHOWING THIS TANGIBLE PRODUCT IN ITSELF.

BUT YES, I AGREE. MOVING FORWARD, IT'S A BIG THING.

YOU HAVE YOU HAVE SOME UPDATES TO GIVE. I AGREE.

BUT HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT? THAT'S THE PICTURE I WANT TO PAINT IS.

WELL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MISS CONNELL'S POINT TOO.

IT MIGHT EVEN BEHOOVE YOU TO GO TO THE THE THE MEETING ON THE SEVENTH AS WELL, WITH YOUR SUSTAINABILITY SHIRTS AND SOLIDARITY.

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WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THREE MINUTE COMMENTS.

WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILMAN HAMMER'S TOWN HALL TOMORROW NIGHT AT 6 P.M.

AT THE CAPTAIN'S HOUSE REGARDING A TOWN HALL ON THE TURKEY CREEK SANCTUARY, WHERE THERE JUST WAS A 3 MILLION GALLON SEWAGE SPILL. WE SHOULD BE THERE.

WE SHOULD BE ADVISING. WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO CITIZENS.

WE SHOULD BE BRINGING COMMENTS. WE SHOULD BE AT THAT MEETING TOMORROW.

READY TO HEAR. I'M GOING. I'M WEARING MY SHIRT.

I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THAT. WE NEED PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD THAT WE NEED TO.

ADVISE AND REALLY APPLY CITIZEN CONCERN TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PROBLEMS. THEY WANT SOLUTIONS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU CAN'T DISSOLVE US.

WELL WHAT CAN YOU DO? WHAT WHAT WHAT CAN YOU DO? AND I'D LIKE TO TELL THEM. I'D SAY GET AT THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS INSUFFICIENT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CANNOT SAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK YOU. ARE ARE ALL OF YOU WILLING TO COME SHOW UP TOMORROW? ARE YOU WILLING? THE CITY MANAGER IS HAVING A COFFEE.

JUNE 29TH. THAT'S TUESDAY AT 730 IN THE MORNING.

AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BE THERE WITH MY SHIRT BECAUSE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE.

AND IT'S AMAZING JUST SHOWING UP. THERE MIGHT BE JUST AN OPENING WHERE SOMETHING IS SAID OR DONE THAT DRAWS THEIR ATTENTION. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE BROAD.

BRUSH PAINTED BY COUNCIL, AS IN EFFECT WOULD BE THE CHALLENGE TO COUNCIL.

THEN WHAT ARE WHAT ARE SOME SUSTAINABILITY CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN WORK TOWARDS? AND THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TRYING TO DO IS PULL THAT OUT.

SO I THINK ONE THING THAT MAY SET THE THE YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE FOR WHERE THEY STAND ON THESE TYPES OF ISSUES. SO THAT'S DISAPPOINTING. BUT THAT'S WELL, I WANT TO KEEP ENCOURAGING US TO TRY TO.

RISE ABOVE THE DISAPPOINTMENT AND WHAT WE SEE THERE AND TRY TO GET TO.

THE PICTURE OF WHAT WE CAN BE, WHAT WE ARE IF WE JUST FOCUS ON WHAT WE'VE DONE.

LOOK AT THE CITY RIGHT ALONG PROGRAM. WAS THAT NOT A TREMENDOUS IDEA? ONE COUNCIL PERSON WENT, HEY, I'M GLAD, BUT ALL OF THEM ARE INVITED.

NOW I WANT TO INVITE THE CITY MANAGER. WE GOT A BRAND NEW CITY MANAGER.

COME THROUGH FOLKS. LET'S GO TALK TO THAT CITY MANAGER AT THE COFFEE AND SAY, WHEN CAN HE GO? YOU KNOW, IT'S THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THAT. WELL, I THINK SOME OF I THINK WE'RE ALL DOING INDIVIDUAL EFFORTS AS WELL THAT WORK TOWARD THIS BOARD.

AND I'M SURE THE COUNCIL IS TOTALLY UNAWARE OF THAT.

SO SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE.

SO, JANE, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M ASKING EACH OF YOU.

YOU ALL ARE DOING SOMETHING. YEP. IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WHAT, ARE YOU WILLING TO DO MORE? I THINK THEY JUST AREN'T AWARE, I MEAN.

CORRECT. THEY'RE NOT AWARE. WHOSE JOB IS TO MAKE THEM AWARE? IT'S REALLY BOTH, BUT IT'S ALSO THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TOO.

BUT IT'S A COLLABORATION AGAIN. TO HAVE A COLLABORATION, YOU HAVE TO HAVE COMMUNICATION IN SOME CONNECTION.

YEAH. RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T KNOW US AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NEW.

THREE OF THEM ARE NEW. I THINK THAT'S THE POINT IS WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS AND A NEW CITY MANAGER.

WE WERE FORTUNATE BEFORE THAT WE HAD A CITY MANAGER WHO WOULD, WHEN SHE WAS ABLE TO, SHE WOULD ATTEND THE MEETINGS.

AND I THINK THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF TIMES WHEN SHE WAS ADVOCATING FOR US WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE SHE WAS

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AND WE CAN IT IS A DIFFERENT TIME. BUT THAT BUILDING IS A TESTIMONY TO SUZANNE SHERMAN, WHO WAS THE CITY MANAGER WHO WORKED WITH. GETTING THAT BUILDING IS PAID IN FULL.

THAT IS SOMETHING TO ACKNOWLEDGE HOW THAT WAS DONE.

THAT BUILDING, THE THE TOP FLOOR IS NOT BUILT OUT, BUT IT'S ALL SOLD ALREADY.

THESE ARE TREMENDOUS ACCOMPLISHMENTS. AND THEY GET COUNCIL LOOKS AT BUILDING E AS DOESN'T SEE THAT. THEY LOOK AT THE COST.

THE COUNCIL AS WE'VE MENTIONED IS NEW. BUT THEY HAVE A CITY THAT'S GROWING SO RAPIDLY AND THEY HAVE, I'M SURE, MANY PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT IMPACT THEM EVERY DAY IN A VERY PERSONAL WAY, IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, IN TERMS OF FINDING A GOOD SCHOOL FOR THEIR KID.

YOU KNOW, ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES. SO YES, WE CAN MAKE OUR PRESENCE KNOWN TO THE WE CAN BE BETTER ABOUT MAKING OUR PRESENCE, GETTING TO KNOW THE COUNCIL, THE PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL.

ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS? THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO ASK EACH OF YOU SPECIFICALLY.

I'LL TRY TO COME TO MIND. I DID HAVE A QUESTION.

SIGN UP HERE. FOR THE. AND MAYBE THE STAFF KNOWS FOR THE COUNCIL APPOINTED POSITIONS.

IS THERE A TIMEFRAME THAT THOSE HAVE TO BE FILLED? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A TIMELINE.

IT'S COMPLETELY THEIR DISCRETION. IT'S COUNTERPRODUCTIVE FOR THEM NOT TO.

BUT I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND. IT'S SOMETHING I CAN LOOK INTO.

I JUST, AT THIS TIME, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A DEADLINE OR SOMETHING PRETTY GOOD FOR IT TO BE MUCH LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS.

NOVEMBER. YEAH, SO EIGHT MONTHS. SO WE HAVE A NEW CITY MANAGER, TOO, WHO IS VERY HE'S COMING IN STRONG. THE COUNCIL IS WORKING WELL.

THE CITIZENS, HE'S ENGAGING WITH THE CITIZENS.

THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH THE CITY MANAGER, WHO SEES THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND KIND OF HOLDS THEM TO MAKING SURE THEY ARE FUNCTIONING FULLY, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE ALL THE CITY BUSINESS GETS HANDLED.

SO GOOD POINT. SO FOR OUR BOARD'S FUTURE PLANS IN THE 30 DAYS, TO RECAP, YOU'RE SAYING GO TO THE COFFEE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.

GO TO THE MY CAMERA EVENT AT THE ABOVE TURKEY CREEK.

GO TO THE COUNCIL MEETING AND ADVOCATE FOR THE BOARD AT ALL THESE TIMES AND MAKE OUR.

YES, MAYBE WHAT I'M SAYING AND AND ASK WHAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM TO MAKE THEIR LIVES EASIER.

EXACTLY. SO THAT SAID. AND THEN IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE UNDER THAT TOPIC YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? OUR SECOND ITEM OF BUSINESS FUTURE PLANS AND INITIATIVES.

WELL, JUST THE QUESTION. WHAT ARE EACH OF YOU WILLING TO DO? ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT? AND THEN EVEN WELL, ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THOSE THINGS? I'VE ALREADY SAID THAT. I SAID I'M GOOD. I THINK WE'LL EACH DO WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AND COMFORTABLE DOING.

I THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AT THE I KNOW THERE'S LIMITED SPACE AT SOME OF THE FORMS. FOR INSTANCE THIS ROOM HAS PLENTY OF ROOM, BUT THE TED MOORE LAGOON HOUSE WITH CAPACITY, LIMITED PARKING. SO I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A COMMITMENT TO BEING THERE.

WASN'T. WELL, AT LEAST YOU'RE THIS MOMENT CALLS FOR THAT TYPE OF CONVERSATION.

THIS IS WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO. YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO, BUT I CANNOT.

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THAT'S A TANGIBLE PIECE. BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND ADVOCATING FOR US AND KEEPING US UPDATED.

AND FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND EFFORT AND JAMES TO I MEAN, Y'ALL ARE DEFINITELY VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO. WELL, THANK YOU, BUT LET ME ASK JANE, WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO? WELL, I'M WILLING TO PRIORITIZE GOING TO THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING.

MAKE SURE I'M THERE. I'LL TRY FOR THURSDAY NIGHT.

AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE COFFEE. I ALSO FEEL LIKE I COULD PUT TOGETHER THE PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE AUGUST 7TH MEETING, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO SHARE WHAT WE'RE DOING INDIVIDUALLY, BECAUSE PART OF THE REASON I KNOW, LIKE YOU'RE DOING A LOT ON THE SIDE, I'M SURE EVERYBODY ELSE IS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE GETTING LISA FRAZIER TO CONRAD? YES. YEAH. AND EDUCATING ON LAD. YES. ADVISING ON THE LANDSCAPE PLANS OVER THERE.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THOSE ARE ALL CONSUMING MY TIME THAT I CAN'T OVER COMMIT TO GOING TO EVERY MEETING THAT YOU GO TO, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF MEETINGS THAT I KNOW WE HAVE NOT SHARED THAT I AGREE.

I AGREE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SHOW COUNCIL IS YES, WE ARE GOING TO BE TELLING YOU THESE THINGS.

THE WHOLE NEMO GARDEN THING THAT. YEAH WE HAVEN'T DONE STUFF LIKE THAT.

YEAH. THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE RATHER INVISIBLE TO THEM.

BUT THEY ARE GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. RIGHT.

AND COUNCILMAN HAMER IS INVOLVED IN NEMO GARDEN.

WE NEED TO UPDATE OURSELVES TO ABOUT THINGS HAPPENING.

SO, JANE COULD YOU WORK WITH THEY'RE DONE ON THE PRESENTATION.

I THINK YOU HAVE SOME IDEAS. THAT'S WHY I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT.

KIND OF. BUT I THINK IF WE COULD EVEN ON THAT SEVENTH, IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF THREE MINUTE PICTORIAL THING THAT WE COULD PLAY, AND THEN THAT WOULD RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURE I'M PUTTING ON YOU ALL.

WE COULD LET THE PICTURES AND THE AND THE WILLINGNESS OF JANE TO BE THERE AND DO THAT.

THAT WOULD SATISFY ME RIGHT NOW. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE END.

I'LL JUST CARE WHAT YOU THINK. I CAN'T BE SATISFIED.

BUT THAT'S A BIG STATEMENT. THANK YOU. SUSAN.

NO. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. I COULDN'T APPEAL, FEEL, THOUGH, TO THAT WE SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTING THE EFFORTS FOR SUSTAINABILITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED.

WELL, LIKE WHAT PUBLIC WORKS IS DOING. I MEAN, YEAH, IF YOU CAN GET THAT IN THERE IN THE PRESENTATION AT ALL, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF CITY COUNCIL AWARE OF ALL THESE INITIATIVES, LIKE ALL THE BAFFLE BOXES AND ALL THE STUFF THAT'S GOING ON, THAT THAT IS JUST PART OF WHAT YOU DO. LIKE HOW DO THEY GET A HOW DO THEY BECOME AWARE OF ALL THOSE INITIATIVES? ANYTIME THERE WAS ANY TIME THAT THERE WAS A I MEAN, FOX 35 COMES AROUND AND DOES A STORY ON STORMWATER MANAGEMENT.

WE JUST HAD THE $1.8 MILLION ISSUED TO US BY RON DESANTIS FOR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THAT MADE A BIG, BIG NEWS STORY IN THAT WE INFORMED THEM WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO WITH THAT MONEY.

AND WE HAVE WE HAVE A PIO WHO PUTS OUT INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING ON PROJECTS LIKE THE NORWOOD PROJECT.

PER THE GRANT THAT'S BEEN ACQUIRED, TO DO THAT PROJECT, WE WE HAVE TO DO OUTREACH FOR IT.

SO THE INFORMATION IS OUT THERE, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT'S A BAD IDEA TO INCLUDE THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WOULD PUT ALL THE FOCUS ON THE CITY. THEY THEY I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THOSE PROJECTS. I WOULD MUCH RATHER THAN SEE ALL THE HIGHLIGHTING OF THE GOOD THAT YOU WANT TO DO.

SO IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA, BUT I WOULDN'T MAKE THAT.

THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE PRESENTATION. NO, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT.

BUT I WOULD SAY THAT OUR IF OUR ROLE IS TO ADVISE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING NOW, YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT THE IMPORTANCE OF SUSTAINABILITY BASED ON THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY AND THEN YOURSELVES, AND THEN INCLUDE SOME IDEAS OF HOW YOU CAN MAKE THAT EVEN BETTER.

TAKE THAT ONE STEP FURTHER, BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, LID IS IS NOT MANDATORY.

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THE MRC ALSO HAS THE LEAD CONFERENCE IN OCTOBER ONCE AGAIN, THAT THAT AND THIS HAS GONE FIVE YEARS.

YES. AND WE'LL BE GOING AGAIN. I BELIEVE THE CITY IS GOING TO BE DOING A PRESENTATION AT THE AT THE OCTOBER 1ST.

SO THOSE EFFORTS ARE GOING TO GET OUT TO NOT JUST THE CITY, THE MRC, BUT ALSO THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT COME AND REMEMBER, THIS COUNCIL HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY. RIGHT? THAT I'M THAT I SEE. RIGHT? YEAH. I KNOW YOU ALL ARE READY TO GO.

I'D LIKE TO ASK ONE OTHER THING TO HELP US. OH, WELL, SO ARE YOU TWO.

CAN YOU PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING FOR AUGUST? I CAN GET I CAN GO WITH JANE REALLY QUICK.

I DO NEED TO MENTION MOVING FORWARD. YOU NEED A CHAIRPERSON.

SO WE NEED TO APPOINT A CHAIRPERSON. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, YOU NEED A VICE AND A AND A CHAIR.

SO WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHO YOUR NEXT CHAIRPERSON IS GOING TO BE TONIGHT.

ALSO DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON AN AGENDA. NO, NO.

ON OTHER BUSINESS, IF WE MOVE TO OTHER BUSINESS, YOU CAN MAKE THAT MOTION AND APPOINT SOMEBODY.

OKAY, SO I HAVE SOMEBODY IN MIND. ARE WE MOVING ON TO OTHER BUSINESS? OH, WAIT. WELL, I WANT TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.

YOU OKAY? IT'LL BE THE LAST. CAN WE. IN THIS WINDOW BUILDING UP TO THE AUGUST 7TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING, COULD THE STAFF WRITE LETTERS ON OUR BEHALF TO ONE TO ALL THE CITY MANAGER, PARTICULARLY. AND THEN THE MAYOR AND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DO THE RIGHT ONE.

JUST A NICE INVITATION. THAT THIS IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE WAY TO SEE PUBLIC WORKS AND ALL THE SUSTAINABLE PORTIONS OF THE CITY. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN LANGDON HAS ALREADY DONE THAT.

SO I THINK THAT COULD BE MENTIONED IN THAT LETTER THAT EVERYONE BUT HIM HAS DONE IT.

AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS, PARTICULARLY FOR OUR NEW CITY MANAGER TO BE INTRODUCED TO OUR CITY.

AND THEN A SECOND LETTER TO ONCE AGAIN REQUEST THAT WE HAVE IN ORDER TO MAKE QUORUM, WE HAVE OUR TWO AT LARGE QUORUM FOR OUR BOARD RELIES ON THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTING THREE MEMBERS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO.

I MEANT TO ASK JESS IF SHE COULD DO THIS BEFORE THIS MEETING TONIGHT, WHICH ARE THE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT NEED TO APPOINT, BUT TO WRITE SOME LETTER REQUESTING THAT THEY FILL THOSE POSITIONS? DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THAT TO OR CAN THE CITY.

WOULD YOU ALL BE WILLING TO DO THAT? THIS IS A TOUGH ASK, I KNOW.

MAYBE MAYBE IT COULD JUST BE A REQUEST TO RESCIND WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY SENT.

FOR THE VACANCIES. BECAUSE IT WASN'T LIKE IT WAS ASKING TO NOT ONLY FILL THOSE, BUT TO ADVERTISE ON THE WEBSITE TO HELP.

I THINK THAT WAS IN THE NAME OF LOGAN LEWIS, SO THAT MIGHT FIT PERFECTLY INTO OUR NEXT TOPIC OF WHO WILL BE SIGNING THAT AS THE CHAIR.

IF YOU WANT TO RESEND IT OR MAYBE TWEAK IT OR WHATEVER.

BUT YES, THAT'S FINE. CAN THE STAFF DO THAT? ARE YOU WILLING? I KNOW YOU'RE WILLING. DO YOU HAVE THE TIME? AND.

YEAH. JUST THE NICE INVITATION. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? IS THAT OKAY? WELL, THAT'S ONE THING I DON'T VOLUNTEER MYSELF FOR.

I'LL GO TO DRAFT SOMETHING UP AND WE'LL SEND IT OUT.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU FEEL LIKE WRITING? NO, I THINK I WOULD WRITE IT ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD.

I WOULD WRITE ON BEHALF OF US AS A CITIZEN. I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD SPEAK TO THE BOARD.

YOU CAN SPEAK FOR ME. AND IN THAT CASE, ANY OF US COULD DO.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WAS THAT A YES, SIR? HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS? I WOULD PRIORITIZE DOING THE VACANCIES AND THEN THE RIGHT ALONG.

MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT FOR OUR NEXT OUR NEXT MEETING.

BECAUSE I DON'T I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

[02:25:01]

BUT I'M HAPPY TO TWEAK THE WHAT I HAD ALREADY BECAUSE I ACTUALLY TYPE THAT UP.

WELL, CAN WE DO BOTH? I WOULD, I WOULD SAY DO ONE OR THE OTHER.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW I WOULD SAY THEN I CAN PRIORITIZE WHAT'S URGENT AND RIGHT ALONG IS NOT AS URGENT AS GETTING THE VACANCIES FILLED.

PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T THINK SO. WELL, THE VACANCIES KIND OF POKES AT THE THE ISSUE YOU KNOW OF.

AND I WANT TO AVOID ANY HOT BUTTON. I WANT THIS TO BE WHILE.

OKAY. YEAH. I WOULD RECOMMEND WE PUT THAT ON TO THE NEXT ONE SINCE WE'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, 45 MINUTES AFTER WHEN WE SAID WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE 30 MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, LET'S STICK TO WHAT WE CAN AGREE ON THEN.

SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? VACANCIES. I SAY LET'S DON'T WRITE ANY LETTER.

OKAY. ARE WE READY TO MOVE TO UPCOMING MEETINGS, EVENTS OR OTHER BUSINESS? YES I AGREE. YES. ANY OBJECTIONS? SO WHAT WAS THE MOTION TO MOVE UP TO? TO GO TO OTHER BUSINESS. THE LAST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA.

WE ALREADY HAVE EVENTS OF INTEREST MENTIONED IN THE COFFEE OF THE MAYOR.

CHAIR. THAT'S THE OTHER BUSINESS. THAT'S THE OTHER.

OTHER BUSINESS. THAT'S UNDER OTHER BUSINESS WE HAVE TO MOVE INTO.

ALL RIGHT. I'M READY TO GO. GO, SUSAN. I MEANT GO.

OKAY. I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO GO WITH THEM.

NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. I'M TRYING TO LIGHTEN THE.

LIGHTEN THE MOMENT. BUT ANYWAYS. OKAY. ARE YOU READY FOR A MOTION FOR CHAIR? YES. DOES SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE SOMEONE TO BE A CHAIR? I'M ONLY BASED ON, SAY, REBECCA. I CAN EITHER DO IT OR REBECCA.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT, I'LL DO IT. SO I WAS PREVIOUSLY VICE CHAIR, SO AS FAR AS I KNOW, I STILL HOLD THAT POSITION. THIS WAS INTERIM BEING THE CHAIR, BECAUSE I WAS NEVER VOTED IN TO BE CHAIR.

SO I AM NOT THE CHAIR. I'M THE VICE CHAIR. SO NOMINATING YOU TO BE CHAIR IS FINE WITH ME.

I'LL NOMINATE. I'LL SECOND THAT. AND THAT'S BASED ON.

BECAUSE I DID HEAR YOU SAY YOU WANT TO REMAIN IN THE POSITION.

I RESPECT PERFECT. REBECCA, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT IF YOU WANT TO BE TRUE.

YES, AND MINE TOO. I'M NOT GREAT WITH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDERS, IF YOU NOTICED.

SO WE HAVE DEREK. YEAH, YEAH. SO I WOULD JUST ASSUME IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THINGS CORRECTLY TO HAVE NOMINATE SOMEONE ELSE TO BE CHAIR. I DON'T KNOW EITHER, BUT. YEAH.

SO. OKAY. BUT YES, I WOULD NOMINATE YOU TO BE CHAIR.

ANYBODY SECOND. THAT SECOND DISCUSSION. THANKS.

THANKS, REBECCA. SO ROBERT'S RULES. WE HAVE A MOMENT FOR DISCUSSION.

I THINK JUST ANY DISCUSSION? YES, YOU HAVE SHOWN.

EXCELLENT. SHE HAS TO ACCEPT IT. YES. SHE SAID THANKS, REBECCA.

YEAH. IF WE TAKE OUT THE TONE. YEAH. IT'S THAT'S FINE.

YEAH, YOU GOT IT. I ACCEPT. MAKE IT OFFICIAL.

YEAH. YEAH. NO, REALLY. YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP THROUGH YOUR WHOLE CONTRIBUTION ON THIS ACTION PLAN FOR THAT ALONE.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU AS CHAIR. YES. AS LONG AS YOU'RE OKAY WITH ME.

I'LL. BECAUSE I'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRICT ON TIME.

THAT'S. THAT'S EXCELLENT. EVEN IF WE HAVE TO SET TIMERS.

I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. JUST DON'T GET UPSET.

SO I DON'T THINK I HEARD THAT, THOUGH. SO IS THAT REBECCA'S CHAIR AND JESSICA? JESSICA'S CHAIR. JESSICA'S MAIN IS VICE CHAIR.

OKAY. SORRY. THAT'S FINE. DOWN HERE. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE AYE. ALL AGAINST. IT IS UNANIMOUS. OKAY. LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN, THEN.

OH, OH. WHO DO I HIT WITH IT? YEAH. OKAY.

I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. WELL, DO WE NEED AN AGENDA FOR NEXT?

[OTHER BUSINESS]

[02:30:02]

OKAY. NATIONAL NIGHT OUT IS BEING HELD BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THEY HOLD IT EVERY YEAR. IT IS AUGUST 5TH FROM 5 TO 730.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPRESENT THE SUSTAINABILITY BOARD, YOU CAN GET A TABLE.

COME ON OUT. TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY. BRING ANY KIND OF LITERATURE OR READING THAT YOU'D LIKE PEOPLE TO SEE.

IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, THEN EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

JUST LET ME KNOW. WE CAN GET YOU A TABLE AND PUT YOU ON THAT LIST.

HEY, DEREK, DO YOU WANT TO SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITH THAT? AND THEN THE TIMES.

SURE. YEAH. YEAH. LOCATION? YES. 5 TO 730. AND.

SORRY. FRED. POPPY. PARK. FRED. YEAH. SO WHAT YOU WOULD NEED LIKE TWO OF US TO STAFF THE TWO.

HOWEVER MANY YOU WANT. PREFERABLY TWO AT THE MINIMUM.

AND ARE YOU? THAT'S A TUESDAY NIGHT, EVERYBODY.

IT IS TUESDAY. IT'S THE FIFTH. I'VE ALREADY GOT SOMETHING ON MY CALENDAR THAT MAYBE I CAN CHANGE.

OH. GUESS WHAT? THAT'S THE BUDGET WORKSHOP. OH.

IS IT? I CAN BE THERE. GREAT. OKAY.

SO. AND THEN YOU'LL SUPPLY THE TABLE MATERIALS AND STUFF.

YEAH. MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE. LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS MATERIALS.

IF YOU, LIKE I SAID, HAVE SUSTAINABILITY ITEMS YOU ARE READING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU'D LIKE PEOPLE TO SEE.

WE'LL SUPPLY THE TABLE. YOU'LL COME ON OUT AND JUST INTERACT WITH THE WITH THE CITIZENS FOR A COUPLE HOURS.

THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH. WELL, IF I CAN I MIGHT BE ABLE TO, REBECCA, BUT I'LL LET YOU.

I'LL JOIN YOU. OKAY. DON'T BE A SOLO PARTICIPANT.

AND THEN, I DON'T KNOW, SUSAN MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

THEY THEY DID THE THE THE BREVARD ZOO HAS A RESTORE OUR SHORES TEAM THAT'S DEDICATED TO THE HEALTH OF THE TURKEY CREEK AND THE INDIAN RIVER LAGOON.

THEY'VE STARTED DOING OYSTER REEF RESTORATIONS AROUND LOCAL WATER BODIES, INCLUDING PALM BAY.

THEY JUST PUT THE STATES IN THAT CASTAWAY PARK POINT, AND THEN LATER ON IN THE PROCESS, THEY'RE GOING TO INSTALL THE OYSTER REEFS.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS AND ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO HELP.

WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ON WHEN THAT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT NOW.

IT'S THERE'S STILL KIND OF PRE-PLANNING THE NEXT PHASE OF IT, BUT AS WE GET THAT INFORMATION, I CAN I CAN SEND THAT TO EVERYBODY IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED, IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS OR FAMILY, ANYBODY THAT YOU WANT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. THE ONLY THING YOU HAVE TO DO TO BE A VOLUNTEER TO SIGN A WAIVER.

BUT IF YOU FIND OUT. GET, LIKE A HEAD COUNT OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED, WE CAN SEND THAT INFORMATION TO THEM SO THAT THEY'RE AWARE AND THEY CAN.

SO YOU'LL SEND US SOMETHING WHERE? LIKE JESSICA SAID, I'M GOING TO SEND OUT AN EMAIL WITH ALL THIS AS WELL, JUST SO YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING. I CAN GET PEOPLE THERE.

YEAH, YEAH. AND I'LL SEND YOU THE DETAILS IN THAT EMAIL AS FAR AS VOLUNTEERING, BUT WE GAVE YOU A PACKET FROM THE STATE SETTING FROM MONDAY. IT WAS MONDAY MORNING AT 9 A.M. WHERE THEY WENT OUT AND MEASURED FROM SHORELINE TO WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO PUT THE REEFS AND THEN STAKED EVERYTHING IN DOWN, DOWN THE WATER BODY. SO IT WAS IT WAS VERY COOL.

AND THEN THEY'VE GOT TONS OF OYSTER REEFS TO INSTALL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

I WANT TO BE AT EVERY POINT. YEAH. YEAH. PERFECT.

YEP. SO AS THE PROGRESS OR AS THE PROJECT PROGRESSES, WE'LL BE ON TOP OF IT.

I THINK CITY STAFF MAY EVEN BE VOLUNTEERING AS WELL.

CERTAIN PEOPLE. REALLY? SO REALLY GOOD COLLABORATIVE EFFORT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GET ON BOARD AND REPRESENT SUSTAINABILITY.

JESSICA, THIS IS A GOOD MOMENT THAT WHERE WE CAN SAY COUNSEL WELL DONE INSTEAD OF WHERE OUR APPOINTEES, YOU KNOW. SO. AND DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ERIC, ABOUT I KNOW HE WANTED TO TALK REBECCA ABOUT EVERYBODY READ THIS. THIS IS A THRILLING MOMENT IN POMPEII.

WELL, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT THERE. YEAH.

YES, YES. THAT'S WHY YOU'LL BE AT EVERY MEETING.

WELL, YEAH, THAT WAS AN EASY YES FOR ME. SO WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA FOR NEXT, NEXT MONTH I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DO START WORKING TOWARDS THAT ONE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. EXCELLENT. OKAY, EXCELLENT. AND THEN MAYBE SOME REVISIONS FROM COUNCIL WITH OUR SUSTAINABILITY ACTION PLAN. OKAY. OKAY.

OKAY. SO TO PUT THAT ON OUR AGENDA, TELL US ON AUGUST 21ST THAT WE ARE NOT DISSOLVED.

WE ARE READY TO BEGIN NEXT. OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING WOULD BE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 27TH.

[02:35:07]

THANK YOU. NOW, DO WE MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? AND THE STAFF? THANK YOU ALL. YES. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. OSCAR OR SOMETHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. SECOND, THE MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND.

IT IS 835. WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. I AM OUT OF TOWN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.