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SORRY. AND NOW FOR THE MEANING OF THE SPECIAL SCHOOL.
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SPECIAL. SPECIAL MAGISTRATE TO ORDER. WELCOME TO THE CITY OF PALM BEACH.WHEN ADDRESSING ME. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO SHUT OFF THEIR CELL PHONES AND WE'LL PUT THEM ON SIGN.
MY NAME IS JASON GORDON. I'M GOING TO BE THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE APPOINT.
AND I'VE BEEN APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO HEAR THESE CASES.
FOR THESE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS. THE PROCESS IS AS FOLLOWS.
YOU THE CLERK WILL MINISTER TO ALL THE WITNESSES HERE.
THE CLERK WILL CALL THE CASE. CITY WILL THEN GO FIRST.
THEY WILL PRESENT THE CASE. THEY WERE ON THE SCREEN.
WHAT EVIDENCE THEY HAVE. AND THEY WILL SHOW ME EXACTLY WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS AND WASN'T HOW IN THE PROOF THEY HAVE WHEN THEY ARE DONE PRESENTING THEIR CASE YOU WILL THEN PRESENT YOUR CASE. YOU WILL PUT YOUR REBUTTAL IN.
ONCE. ONCE EVERYBODY PRESENTS THEIR CASE, I WILL THEN RENDER A DECISION.
THAT DECISION COULD BE ONE OF THREE POSSIBILITIES.
IF I UPLOAD THE VIOLATION, THERE'LL BE A $100 MANDATORY VIOLATION.
THERE WILL BE NO ADMINISTRATION FEE. IT WILL NOT AFFECT YOUR INSURANCE RATES.
AND THERE WILL BE NO POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE. THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING.
IF I IF I DO UPLOAD IT, YOU'LL HAVE 30 DAYS RIGHT, TO APPEAL THAT DECISION.
THAT ANY PERSON DECIDES TO APPEAL DECISION WILL NEED A RECORDED PROCEDURE PROCEEDINGS, AND FOR SUCH PURPOSE MAY NEED TO ENSURE VERBATIM RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS THAT'S MADE HERE TODAY. THIS IS BEING RECORDED. SO IF YOU NEED THAT, YOU CAN CONTACT THE CITY AND THEY'LL GET THE TRANSCRIPT FOR YOU.
THAT WILL INCLUDE THE TESTIMONY OF EVIDENCE WHICH WAS PRESENTED, RELIED UPON.
IF I DO DISMISS THE VIOLATION, THERE'LL BE NO FURTHER OBLIGATION.
THAT'LL BE THE END OF THE CASE. OKAY. FOR THE FIRST CASE.
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CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4792 4528. MARIANN ARRUDA WINBERG. OKAY. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE.OH, SORRY. I'M SORRY. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
MARY ANN ARRUDA, WINDBER 770 SCHUSTER ROAD, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY.
OKAY. AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO CLEAR SO CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE SO I CAN HEAR YOU.
OF COURSE, WE ARE MAKING THE TRANSCRIPTS. OKAY.
IS IS THE CITY READY TO MOVE FORWARD? YES. OKAY.
AND INTO YOUR MICROPHONE TO PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU.
YOU MAY PRESENT THE CASE. OFFICER REARDON, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? GOOD MORNING. SIR. WOULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT? YES. IT'S JEFF REARDON. AND YOU HAVE EVIDENCE PACKAGE UP ON THE SCREEN.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DO. ALL RIGHT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS HEARING. YES.
AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? YES. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO, YEAH. AND ARE THEY KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS CITATION.
LOOKING OVER THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE AND ANALYZING IT.
OKAY. AND SO THIS FIRST THING ON THE SCREEN, THIS IS THE WHAT IS THIS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? THIS IS THE CITY OF COLUMBIA. NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
OKAY. AND WHAT KIND OF EVIDENCE DOES THIS CONTAIN? STATISTICAL DATA ON THE VIOLATION. DATE, TIME, LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION.
OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE SPEED OF THIS VEHICLE? IT IS 54MPH.
AND WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT AT THIS TIME? AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, THIS LOCATION IS 40MPH.
OKAY. AND DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? YES IT DOES.
AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? IS THE INDIVIDUAL STANDING IN FRONT OF ME? MISS MARIANNE WEINBERG.
ARUBA. WEINBERG. AND WHAT IS THE DATE? THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF VIBRATION FOR 725 AT 1206 IN THE AFTERNOON. OKAY, DOES THAT IN THE SCHOOL ZONE? IT IS OKAY. IS THAT IN PALM BAY? IT IS. OKAY.
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AND CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN IN THE PACKAGE? TOWARDS THE BOTTOM.YEAH. WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK TO THE CERTIFICATIONS.
OH, HERE WE GO. AND HAS THIS CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES, IT APPEARS SO. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SUBJECT TO RECALL, YOUR HONOR.
OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? NO. OKAY. YOU MAY PRESENT YOUR CASE. OKAY. SHE SPOKE TO THE MICROPHONE AND LAUGHED.
I WAS NOT SPEEDING. I DRIVE THIS COUNTY FOR A LIVING AND I DON'T GET TICKETS.
I JUST WASN'T SPEEDING. THAT'S REALLY MY ONLY REBUTTAL.
HI. THERE'S OTHER CARS IN THE CAMERA. I MEAN, I JUST WASN'T.
MY GRANDKIDS GO TO SCHOOL IN THE AREA, TOO. I JUST IT WASN'T ME.
I WASN'T SPEEDING. THE CITY HAS PRESENTED A PRIMA FACIE CASE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SPEEDING.
THEY HAVE THE CAMERAS SET UP. THEY HAVE THE SPEEDING DEVICES.
THEY HAVE CALIBRATION. THEY HAVE SIGNS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BESIDES YOUR TESTIMONY THAT YOU WEREN'T SPEEDING THAT YOU COULD GIVE ME? I MEAN, THERE'S ANOTHER CAR EVEN IN THE SCREEN.
HOW DO WE KNOW IT WAS IN THAT CAR? I MEAN, I'M JUST SAYING I WASN'T.
I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR JOB, BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE TRUTH.
OKAY. THE CITY HAS ANYTHING ELSE I'D LIKE TO ADD? NO, YOUR HONOR. OKAY.
SORRY. OKAY. OKAY. BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO UPHOLD THE VIOLATION. THE PRIMA FACIE CASE PRESENTED BY THE CITY WAS NOT REBUTTED.
TESTIMONY BY ITSELF. IF YOU HAD ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE.
WHAT? LIKE WHAT EVIDENCE, THOUGH? IT'S JUST ME.
KIND OF AGAINST A CAMERA. I MEAN, HOW WOULD YOU.
HOW WOULD I EVEN BRING EVIDENCE, LIKE SOMEBODY ON THE ROAD OR SOMETHING? I CAN'T, I CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE. THERE'S CARS THAT HAVE G.P.S.
DEVICES ON THAT. RIGHT. THAT RECORD ON THIS OTHER DEVICE.
OTHER EVIDENCE BESIDES THIS TESTIMONY THAT CAN BE PRESENTED.
SO BASED ON. I'M GOING TO UPHOLD THE VIOLATION ON NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4792 4528. BASED ON TESTIMONY, EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT I ORDERED THAT YOU PAID THE PENALTY OF $100 PLUS ZERO ADMINISTRATION FEE, THAT THE TOTAL FINE OF $100 BE PAID WITHIN THE 30 DAYS FAILURE PAY WITHIN THE 30 DAYS MAY RESULT IN YOUR CASE BEING FORWARDED TO A CREDIT AGENCY, AND THIS MAY NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR CREDIT SCORE.
AGAIN, IT WILL NOT BE POINTS ON YOUR LICENSE OR, IN EFFECT, YOUR INSURANCE.
SO KIND OF BEING SWORN IN REALLY DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
OH WHAT'S THAT? BEING SWORN IN DOESN'T REALLY MEAN ANYTHING.
BEING A WARNING. NO, I MEAN, I TOLD THE TRUTH AND IT DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES. AM I ALL DONE RIGHT? YES, YOU ARE DONE. THANK YOU.
I'LL CALL THE NEXT CASE. NEXT CASE IS 2030 8000 4738 4139. LEONARDO. CONCLAVES.
SORRY. GOOD MORNING. CAN YOU, SIR? CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD?
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THAT'S CORRECT. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.I'M SO SORRY ABOUT. MY ENGLISH. ENDED UP BEING POOR, AND I DON'T SPEAK ENGLISH.
WELL, JUST RICE AND BEANS, BUT I TRY TO SPREAD YOU ANY NEWS? WELL, JUST JUST PRONOUNCE THE STATE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THAT'S ALL I NEED. IS YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND YOUR ADDRESS. ONE. TWO. FOUR. SIX FOUR. NORTHWEST AVENUE PARKWAY.
32907. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE YOU READY TO PRESENT? YES. THE WITNESS, PREVIOUSLY SWORN AND READY TO TAKE TESTIMONY.
YES, SIR. THANK YOU SIR. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
JEFF REARDON. AND YOU ARE PREVIOUSLY SWORN. YOU HAVE A EVIDENCE PACKAGE UP ON THE SCREEN, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS YEAR. YES, SIR.
ALL RIGHT. AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? I AM, AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? YES, SIR. AND ARE THESE RECORDS KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? THEY ARE. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. I'VE PULLED IT UP AND REVIEWED IT.
ALL RIGHT. AND SO WHAT IS ON THIS FIRST PAGE HERE? FIRST PAGE IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY. NOTICE OF A VIOLATION.
BASICALLY, IT'S THE CIVIL CITATION THAT IS SENT TO THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE FOR THE VIOLATION THAT WAS COMMITTED ON A PARTICULAR DATE AND TIME LOCATION. OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE SPEED OF THE VEHICLE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH? IT IS 36MPH. OKAY. AND WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME? AT THIS TIME IS 20MPH. OKAY. AND DOES THE TAG OF THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE'S REGISTRATION? YES, SIR. IT DOES. OKAY. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THAT VEHICLE? THIS IS A GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF ME. MR. LEONARDO GONE TO COLLEGE. AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THIS VIOLATION? THE DATE IS 4225 AT 9:06 A.M.. OKAY. AND IS THAT A SCHOOL ZONE? IT IS. YES, SIR. AND IS THAT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? IT IS. IT'S THE ACADEMY SCHOOL. MIDDLE SCHOOL? IT IS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. ALL RIGHT. AND COULD YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE LAST TWO PAGES, PLEASE? THIS IS.
AND HAS THE OTHER. HAS THE CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES IT HAS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
YOUR HONOR IS SUBJECT TO RECALL. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU LIKE TO ASK? OKAY.
JUST QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? WELL, I DON'T SAY, BUT I'M SORRY TO SAY, BUT NOT EASY. DO YOU NEED AN INTERPRETER? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? SUPPOSE THAT NO INTERPRETER WAS S ONE.
DO YOU? DO YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE YOUR CASE SO YOU CAN GET AN INTERPRETER? OR THAT INTERPRETER COULD BE ARRANGED. IS THIS POSSIBLE? THIS COULD. GOOD. OKAY. BASED ON THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE HE NEEDS AN INTERPRETER, THAT WE CAN CONTINUE YOUR CASE TO THE NEXT HEARING DATE, WHICH IS SEPTEMBER. SEPTEMBER 9TH. COMING NINTH.
SEPTEMBER 9TH. WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GONNA MOVE YOUR DATE TO SEPTEMBER 9TH.
AND WE NEED TO ARRANGE FOR AN INTERPRETER TO BE HERE.
YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR WHAT WHAT'S BEING SAID.
CORRECT. OKAY. SEE YOU JUST FINE. OKAY. SO YOUR CASE IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED.
OR ADJOURN TO SEPTEMBER 9TH AT 10 A.M.. OKAY.
OR IF HE HAS TO BRING HIS OWN, HE WILL HAVE TO BRING HIS OWN INTERPRETER.
WOULD HAVE TO BE A CERTIFIED INTERPRETER. OR COULD IT BE? I DON'T KNOW. IN THIS CASE IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY THAT CAN INTERPRET FOR YOU THAT TRANSLATE.
I HAVE A VERY ADEPT PORTUGUESE, BRAZILIAN PORTUGUESE AS WELL.
CAN THEY COME NEXT QUARTERLY? DO YOU KNOW? CAN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY HERE NEXT COURT DATE TO INTERPRET FOR YOU? NO, I HAVE ONLY GOD WITH ME. GOD. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THROUGH
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SEPTEMBER 9TH AND WE'LL SEE. WHAT LANGUAGE DO YOU SPEAK? BRAZILIAN. PORTUGUESE. PORTUGUESE. OKAY. BRAZILIAN? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE IT AND WE'LL SEE WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT.
NEXT. CASE NUMBER 267. ZERO TWO. DAVID HARDY.
MY NAME IS DAVID HARDY. CAN YOU RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH. AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. OKAY.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. ADDRESS? MY NAME IS DAVID HARDY.
MY ADDRESS IS 1186 STONY POINT DRIVE, MELBOURNE, FLORIDA.
OKAY. CITY READY TO PRESENT. WITNESS. WITNESS WAS PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
YES, YOUR HONOR. THANK YOU. OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
JEFF REARDON. ALL RIGHT. AND YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SWORN IN AS A JUDGE.
NOTED. WHAT DO YOU HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN HERE? I HAVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY. NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
ALL RIGHT. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS YEAR. YES, SIR.
AND ARE YOU A CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? I AM, DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO, AND ARE THESE RECORDS, CAPTAIN? THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF ME. I'VE VIEWED IT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DOES THE TAG MATCH THIS VEHICLE?
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IT DOES. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? THE GENTLEMAN IN FRONT OF ME. IT'S DAVID HARDY.AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THIS VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOUR 2325 AT 1240. AND THE LOCATION WAS JUPITER BOULEVARD.
JUPITER ELEMENTARY. OKAY. IS THAT IN A SCHOOL ZONE? YES, SIR. AND IS THAT THEN IN PALM BAY. IT IS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
AND WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME? IT IS 35MPH. AND WHAT IS THIS VEHICLE SPEED? 46MPH.
ALL RIGHT. AND CAN YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE LAST TWO PAGES OF THE DOCUMENT, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. AND HAS THE HAS THE CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES, SIR. IT HAS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SUBJECT TO RECALL.
HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? NO. OKAY. ARE YOU READY TO SEND YOUR CASE? YES. OKAY. PLEASE PRESENT YOUR CASE. SO I WAS ACTUALLY NOT THE ONE DRIVING MY TRUCK.
IT WAS ACTUALLY MY DAD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT AFFECTS ANYTHING WHEN YOU RECEIVED THE TICKET, I BELIEVE IT ASKED YOU IF YOU WOULD DRIVE IN YOUR TRUCK. YOU WOULD BE GIVEN AN AFFIDAVIT OF WHO WAS DRIVING A TRUCK.
THEY HAD TO HAVE ME ON THE PHONE. OKAY. THIS IS WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE IS DRIVING.
IS A REQUIRED DOCUMENT FOR YOU TO FILL OUT AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING YOU ARE NOT DRIVING THE TRUCK.
THIS THIRD PARTY WAS DRIVING THE TRUCK. IT'S HARD TO TAKE IT OUT.
YOU PROBABLY MISSED IT. PROBABLY. AT THIS POINT, IS THERE ANY DEFENSE FROM YOUR FATHER OR ANYONE? I'M JUST TRYING TO SPEED THIS UP TO YOU GUYS. I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO. ARE THE CAMERAS WORKING RIGHT NOW? ARE THE CAMERAS UP AND RUNNING CURRENTLY? YES. OKAY. SO WHY WERE THEY SHUT DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME? OKAY. THAT'S A QUESTION TO THE CITY, BUT IF YOU WANT TO ASK THE CITY, I BELIEVE THE CAMERAS, THE CITY, THE CAMERAS ARE UP AND RUNNING. AT THIS POINT, I YEAH I KNOW.
IT HAS NO BEARING ON THIS CASE. BUT THE QUESTION IS THERE.
SO. AND WHY IS THAT? WHY IS IT WHY ARE THEY NOT RUNNING? OKAY. WELL, SO WHAT ABOUT THE WHAT ABOUT THE SEVERAL HUNDRED TICKETS THEY GOT IN MIAMI DADE COUNTY FROM PALM BAY? THE CITY I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL STRAIGHTENED OUT.
WENT THROUGH ONE BY ONE. OKAY, SO HOW ARE THEY OPEN TO SMITH? HOW DO I KNOW THAT THIS IS ACCURATE? WERE YOU IN MIAMI DADE COUNTY AT THE TIME? NO, BUT I SEEN IT ALL OVER THE NEWS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT.
SO IF THEY'RE HAVING FAULT, THEN WHY ARE THEY? WHY ARE THEY NOT RUNNING RIGHT NOW? WHY DON'T THEY? WHY IS THERE AN ANSWER IF THEY'RE RUNNING CURRENTLY? WELL, LET'S LET'S LET'S LET'S NARROW THIS DOWN TO WHAT THE CASE IS ABOUT.
THE CASE IS ABOUT ON A DATE THAT YOU RECEIVE THE TICKET WHERE THE CAMERA IS RUNNING.
ARE THEY CALIBRATED AND WITH A SCIENCE? CORRECT.
WOULD THAT BE WHAT THE CASE IS REALLY ABOUT? IT WAS PROPERLY WORKING FOR YOU.
WHAT DAY WERE THEY SHUT OFF? WHAT THEY WERE. THEY PAUSED.
AND I COULD TALK TO YOU. TALK AND TALKS, AND WE DON'T TALK OVER EACH OTHER.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHAT ALL THE CITY PRESENTED ME A CASE.
THEY MADE THEIR. THEY MADE THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF BY ON THE PAPERWORK SHOWING ME.
NOW, YOU IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WAS WRONG OR NOT HAPPENING THAT DAY THAT YOU COULD TEST THEM.
YOU SHOW THAT YOU COULD SHOW THE SIGNS TO THEM.
YOU HAVE A PICTURE WITHOUT SOMETHING. THEN WE COULD DISCUSS THAT.
BUT ON THAT DAY, WHATEVER HAPPENED AROUND THAT DAY.
IT'S JUST YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR INDIVIDUAL TICKET AND WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.
SURE, SIR. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH? I'LL BE GONE. I DO. MY NAME IS MICHAEL HARDY.
I LIVE IN 1587 DOZIER CIRCLE IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
OKAY. AND I DID LOOK INTO SOME OF THE PALM BAY PULSE SCHOOLS.
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THIS IS WHAT I GOT. JUST SOME INFORMATION, AND IT SAYS THAT THE BILL MUST EXCEED THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT BY MORE THAN 11MPH.RIGHT HERE. RIGHT. AND SO I'M RIGHT AT 11. SO IF I NEED TO BE GOING MORE THAN 11 MILES AN HOUR.
WHY WAS THERE A VIOLATION? AND THERE WAS ANOTHER THING. I LOOKED AT THAT.
HOW COME THERE ARE SO MANY TESTS ON HIS PARTICULAR TEST? THAT WAS LIKE, I SEEM LIKE YOU GOT RID OF IT SO FAST IT DIDN'T COUNT.
BUT THERE WAS LIKE TEN. AND I SEEN SOME OTHER ONES. THERE WAS LIKE LESS THAN EIGHT.
SO THERE'S SOME DISCREPANCY OR DISCREPANCY. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THERE'S NO DISCREPANCY. THEY JUST GAVE YOU MORE TEST RESULTS THAN OTHER ONES I'VE SEEN.
WHILE I SEE WHERE THERE WAS A TWO, I SEE THERE WAS TEN.
BUT ALL I HAVE IS LIKE ACROSS THE BOARD, LIKE EVEN LEVEL.
I DID REVIEW IT AND I SAW THAT, THAT THEY DID SHOW THAT THAT.
SO AT WHAT POINT DO YOU GET A VIOLATION AT WHAT POINT LIKE JUST ONE MILE OVER THE SPEED LIMIT.
TWO MILES. I MEAN, IT SAYS 11 RIGHT HERE. I MEAN, THAT THAT'S THAT'S THE INFORMATION.
IT SAYS IT RIGHT HERE. SO, OKAY. BUT QUOTE UNQUOTE THE ORDINANCE YOU'RE READING.
WELL, IT'S NOT AN ORDINANCE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT'S ON THE PALM BAY SCHOOL PROGRAM.
OKAY. RIGHT HERE. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
THE VEHICLE MUST EXCEED THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT BY MORE.
THAT'S THE LANGUAGE BY MORE THAN 11 MILES AN HOUR.
YOU WANT YOU CAN LOOK. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO LOOK AT IT.
YOU CAN PRESENT IT TO ME. BUT, I MEAN, THAT'S A DISCREPANCY. AND I CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ASKED ABOUT WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT? AND IT SAYS THEY SAID TEN MILES AN HOUR. SO WHICH IS IT? SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S EVIDENCE AND IT'S UNNECESSARY SERVICE TO THE CITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, THAT'S THE POLICY OR THAT'S JUST PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE.
BUT IF THAT'S THE POLICY THEN LET'S LOOK AT THE WORDING OF IT.
AND IT'S MORE THAN 11 AND HE'S DOING 11. THEN.
THAT MIGHT BE. WRITTEN BY A REPORTER. REPORTERS GET THINGS WRONG.
IT'S NOT THE STATUTE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S THE ORDINANCE AND NOT THE REPORTER SAYS.
SO WHY DID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAY TEN MILES AN HOUR? IT'S VERBIAGE. IT'S UNDER YOUR PROGRAM AND IT SAYS 11 MILES.
BUT I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, AND I DON'T EVEN.
YOU DON'T EVEN. YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL ME WHAT'S THE SPEED LIMIT? YOU GET A VIOLATION. IS IT OVER? EXCUSE ME? I JUST GOTTA LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
OKAY? DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT? SO THAT'S AN ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP. LET'S CHECK THE ORDINANCE AND WHAT'S POSTED ON THIS WHEN YOU GO THROUGH.
JUST LET YOU KNOW THE ORDINANCE WILL CONTROL WHATEVER THE ORDINANCE SAYS.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO SAY. NOT WHAT THAT SAYS, BUT WHATEVER THE.
BUT IT'S NOT POSTED OUT IN THE FIELD WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING BY THESE I MEAN SOME OF THESE SIGNS, THE WAY THEY PUT THEM, IT'S VERY, VERY DEFENSIVE THAT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE FOR ME TODAY WHERE THE POSITIONS OF THE SIGNS SERIOUSLY, IF THE SIGNS ARE POSTED, IF THE SIGNS ARE POSTED AND THEY AND IT'S SHOWING ME ALL THESE, YOU HAVE A SIGN ON ONE STREET AND YOU DON'T.
IT'S ON ONE STREET. AND THEN IT'S ACTUALLY THE VIOLATIONS ON ANOTHER STREET.
THE SIGN IS ON BABCOCK OR WACO, NOT ON BABCOCK.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WOULD GET THE VIOLATION.
IT'S IT'S LIKE THE WHOLE PROGRAM IS JUST. IT'S JUST NOT IT'S NOT SET UP.
THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE ROADS I CAN GO TO AVOID A SCHOOL ZONE.
THANK YOU. WHICH IS THE ORDINANCE UNDER 316 .183.
THE THE THE FLORIDA STATUTE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
316 .189.183. OKAY. 1896. I'M LOOKING AT. LET ME GET IT ON MY SCREEN.
WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK YOUR QUESTION? CAN YOU SHUT DOWN ON THE 26TH OF FEBRUARY UNTIL MARCH 31ST, AND THEN THEY WERE FINALLY SHUT DOWN FOR US ON THE SEVENTH? YOUR HONOR, CAN I SWEAR IN I, AUSTIN? OR DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? I DO, YEAH. COULD IT SAY WHY THEY WERE OPPOSED? WHY THEY WERE PAUSED? WE WE AS OFFICERS AREN'T INFORMED OF THAT DECISION.
WE WERE INFORMED THAT THEY WERE NOT. THAT'S NOT TAKING TESTIMONY.
THE SECOND ONE. I'M REVIEWING THE STATUTE. YES.
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FOR THE RECORD, YOUR HONOR, THE STATUTE GIVES THE CORRECT SPEED OF TEN MILES PER HOUR, WHICH IS WHERE THE CAMERAS ARE SET.THAT'S SOME LOW SPEED I'M LOOKING AT. OKAY. WHAT? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? EXCUSE ME. SORRY. THAT WAS.
LET ME SCROLL IT UP HERE. ONE. TWO. NINE. EIGHT.
FOUR. WHAT'S THAT STATUE? I'M LOOKING FOR THE WHOLE STATUE NOW.
YEAH. I'M SORRY. OKAY. 316 .008 IS AT LEAST THE ONE.
WHAT'S THE STATE FINDING UNDER THE SPEED DETECTION SYSTEM OF SPEED AND CAPTURING PHOTOGRAPHS AND VIDEOS OF VIOLATIONS IN EXCESS OF TEN MILES PER HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. 1010. OKAY. SO THAT YOU CONTROL ONE MILE AN HOUR. TEN. IT'S. YEAH. I'M SORRY. THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
I HAVEN'T A RESIDENT FOR 20 YEARS OR OVER 20 YEARS IN SOUTHEAST PALM BAY.
SHOW ME ONE OTHER TICKET THAT I EVER GOT BECAUSE I WAS DRIVING.
HE WASN'T EVEN DRIVING AFTER THE SERVICE IN HIS VEHICLE. THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. OR ELSE I WOULDN'T EVEN COME. I WOULD LET HIM HANDLE IT. HE'S CHROMED HIM. WELL, JUST, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW. WE CAN'T EVEN COME UP WITH A REASON WHY THESE THINGS ARE PAUSED.
THAT IS A LOT THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN PALM BAY? WHY? THESE CAMERAS ARE BEING PAUSED WHEN THEY'RE GETTING VIOLATIONS.
100, $100. I MEAN, IT SHOULD BE LIKE A 25, MAYBE 75 TO 100, MAYBE SOME.
BUT YOU GUYS ARE JUST KILLING US WITH $100 BILL.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST INCREDIBLE WHAT IS HAPPENING.
WELL, I I'M SURE THERE'S NO REASON. THERE'S NO ANSWER.
YOU GO TO MIAMI FOR $500. YOU GO TO OTHER. OTHER HILLSBOROUGH.
I BELIEVE IT'S 1.75. PLUS ADMINISTRATIVE FEES IS LOW FEES.
THIS IS THE LOWEST FINDING. SO THE AMOUNT. I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ARGUMENT OVER THE AMOUNT.
OVER ONE MILE AN HOUR. TECHNICALLY, YOU ARE 11 MILES AN HOUR OVER THE SPEED LIMIT.
BUT TECHNICALLY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE ONE IS, THE ONE IS TO GIVE LEEWAY.
BUT WE DON'T WE KNOW ALL THAT, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE ON PAUSE.
WE DON'T HAVE ONE GOOD ANSWER YET. SO WHY ARE THEY ON PAUSE? WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM TO PUT THIS ON PAUSE? TO STOP IT.
BUT LIKE IT'S LIKE I SAID, THEY PRESENTED THE CASE WHERE EVERYTHING WAS WORKING. THEY SHOWED ME THE CALIBRATIONS, THEY SHOWED ME THE SIGNS AND SHOWED ME EVERYTHING IN THEIR PACKAGE.
THAT WAS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I SEEN. I JUST.
THEY'RE ALL THERE TESTING. THEY HADN'T TESTED TEN TIMES.
CHECKING TEN TIMES TO MAKE SURE. THAT'S THAT'S THE SEEMS LIKE IT'S EXCESSIVE.
I MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE. HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT? THAT THEY HAD TO TEST IT TEN TIMES, AND NOW IT'S ON PAUSE.
NOT ONE ANSWER THIS. THIS IS FAIR. IT IS FAIR.
BUT THIS IS I, I IF THE CITY DOESN'T LIKE YOU, ASK TO SEE THE QUESTION.
IT'S ON THE RECORD. IT'S NOT RIGHT TO DO ON IT.
THE CITY GAVE. THAT'S THAT'S THE ANSWER. I IT'S I DON'T MAKE ANSWERS THAT ZERO.
OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THE TICKET. YOU I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ALL PAUSED.
YOU'RE GOING TO COLLECT $100, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL US WHY THEY CLOSED THE WHOLE PROGRAM DOWN.
I MEAN, IT'S LIKE IT'S STOPPED. IT'S IT'S IT'S IT'S IRRELEVANT RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, MY GRANDDAUGHTER GOES TO THAT SCHOOL, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
LET'S LET'S NOT GO THERE VERY OFTEN. I'M JUST.
I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN MYSELF. YOU KNOW, AND I'M TELLING YOU THE BEST THAT I CAN.
I MEAN, WE I DON'T GET TICKETS. SPEAK TICKETS, I DON'T.
AND I DROVE IN THIS TOWN FOR A LONG TIME AND ONE MILE AN HOUR TALKING ABOUT.
SO I'M A LITTLE FRUSTRATED. AND THEN I'LL HAVE TO ANSWER WHY THEY WERE CLOSED.
THERE'S A CITY. OKAY. OKAY, LET'S ASK THIS QUESTION.
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TO HAVE HIM THAT THE FATHER OUT HERE IS TESTIFY THAT HE IS DRIVING THE VEHICLE RATHER THAN.I KNOW THERE'S AN AFFIDAVIT. WE HAVE A SWORN TESTIMONY THAT HE WAS DRIVING.
SO WE GO WITH THAT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. OKAY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER TICKETS ON THAT VEHICLE? DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S ANY OTHER TICKETS ON THAT VEHICLE OR IN THAT NAME? WHAT'S THAT? I'M SORRY. IS THERE ANY OTHER SPEEDING TICKETS ON THAT VEHICLE THAT YOU KNOW.
I'LL HAVE TO PULL IT UP REAL QUICK ON THIS VEHICLE HERE. NOT A SINGLE ONE.
I DON'T THINK SO. HE CAN TELL YOU. I JUST WANT TO DO A QUICK SEARCH.
THE CLERK HAS INDICATED THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED TO GET HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER.
IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE. WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE SUN OR THE FOG? IF WE'RE ADMITTING IT TO THE FATHER? I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET HIS DRIVER'S LICENSE INFORMATION AS PART OF THAT.
AND HOW THAT IS JUST CHANGED FROM HIM TO ME. BECAUSE.
BECAUSE OF ANOTHER SECOND VIOLATION, IT WOULD LOOK LIKE HE.
THERE'LL BE A SECOND VIOLATION FOR HIM. THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS IS.
THIS IS NOT VIOLATIONS. THIS IS ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING.
IF IT DOESN'T PAY, IT WILL SHOW UP ON HIS CREDIT REPORT. THAT'S ALL.
OKAY, SO THIS IS NOT I KNOW, I KNOW YOU'RE FIGHTING OVER THIS TICKET, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'LL JUST PAY EITHER WAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, THAT'S ALL. JUST SO HE DOESN'T GET IN.
WELL, I HAD SOMETHING ON ON THAT I APPRECIATE IT.
SO ALL THAT HAPPENS TODAY IS IF YOU DON'T PAY, RIGHT.
RIGHT. AND I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO HOLD THE VIOLATION, YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE THING.
I'M GOING TO HOLD, YOU KNOW, THAT WE DON'T SEE AGAIN.
YOU'RE A VERY NICE MAN. BUT I THINK THAT THE HEARING THE ONE MILE PER HOUR, WHICH IS REALLY 11.
BUT SINCE YOU HAVE THE LEEWAY, THE ONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IF THE STATUTE CAME BACK AND SAID YOU KNOW, GREATER THAN 11, YOU WOULD YOU WANT, IN MY OPINION.
AND I'M SORRY, BUT THE INTERPRETATION. BUT YOU PROBABLY SAW THAT EVEN AFTER THE TICKET WAS EVEN ISSUED, YOU WEREN'T RELYING ON THAT STATEMENT. IT WOULD BE MY GUESS.
YEAH, IT'S JUST THE PAUSE, THE WHOLE SITUATION, BECAUSE THEY HAD CAMERAS, RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
I LIVED THROUGH ALL THAT TOO, WITH THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS ON MALABAR ROAD, AND YOU COULDN'T GET OUT OF PALM BAY WITHOUT GETTING A RED LIGHT TO, YOU KNOW, TICKET OR. RIGHT. POTENTIALLY. BUT YOU KNOW, THAT ENDED, YOU KNOW.
BUT NOW WE GOT A NEW SYSTEM HERE TO TRY TO GET OUR MONEY.
AND IT'S JUST. WHEN'S THE STOP? YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND KIDS ARE GOING TO SCHOOL AT THE TIME.
THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER SUBJECT. JACK. THERE WAS NO CHILDREN AROUND IN THIS PICTURE.
I, YOU KNOW, SO THEY'RE IN SCHOOL, AND NOW WE'RE TICKETING PEOPLE WHILE KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL.
IT'S JUST AND I UNDERSTAND THERE AND I UNDERSTAND.
BUT THEN YOU SHOULD JUST HAVE ON EVERY CORNER, I MEAN.
WELL, I MEAN THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE GETTING THEM ALL DAY LONG.
YOU'RE HITTING THEM AND THAT AND THE TIME YOU'VE ASSIGNED IT.
BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THIS SO I DON'T GET ANOTHER TICKET.
YOU HAVE TO? WELL, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS THAT.
OKAY. THAT YOU COULD LOOK UP THINGS LIKE THAT, AND YOU MAKE ME SMILE.
BECAUSE I KNOW IN NEW YORK CITY YOU CAN'T DRIVE DOWN A ROAD WITHOUT A SPEEDING TICKET.
THERE'S CAMERAS AND LIGHTS EVERYWHERE. SO MAYBE YOUR BIG BROTHER WILL EVENTUALLY BE WATCHING HERE.
BUT IT'S NOT HERE NOW. WELL, YOU HAVE A WELL, THERE.
ROTTEN SCHOOL ZONE FOR SPEEDING TICKET IN PALM BAY.
SO, BASED UPON THE TESTIMONY, I'M GOING TO FIND THAT NOTICE NUMBER
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2030 8000 4972 6702 BASED ON TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED THAT THE VIOLATION BE UPHELD. I ORDER THAT THE THE FINE OF $100 BE PAID WITH ZERO ADMINISTRATION FEE.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? JUST WHEN WE GET A NOTIFICATION ABOUT THE POLICY ABOUT THESE CAMERAS NOT BEING WORKING ONLINE, WHEN WE GET, WOULD WE GET NOTIFIED? THAT'S NOT FOR ME TO SAY NOT.
SO ONE DAY YOU COULD JUST THIS IS ON THE ROAD AND GET A TICKET.
THERE'S NO THERE'S NO IT'S JUST A BLACK HOLE.
YOU HAVE MADE YOUR RECORDS. YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT? OKAY, WELL.
THE NEXT. NEXT CASE IS 2030 8000 4804 1917 STEPHANIE HELLER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. CORRECT. YES, SIR.
MY FIRST NAME IS STEPHANIE. MY LAST NAME IS HELLER.
AND MY ADDRESS IS 2578 12 SQUARE SOUTHWEST VERO BEACH, FLORIDA.
CITY READY TO PRESENT. WITNESS. PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
ARE YOU READY? OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
JEFF REARDON. AS THE JUDGE STATED, YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION AS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS HEARING? YES, SIR. AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? I AM, DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO. AND ARE THESE RECORDS KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS TRAFFIC CITATION? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF ME ON THE COMPUTER.
I'VE LOOKED IT OVER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH? YES, SIR. IT DOES. I, WHO IS A REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? IS THE FEMALE IN FRONT OF ME, AND IT'S STEPHANIE JANE HELLER.
AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOR 822, 2025 AT 9:44 A.M.. AND THE LOCATION IS A LOT MORE ELEMENTARY.
AND IS THAT A SCHOOL ZONE? YES, SIR. AND IS THAT IN PALM BAY? IT IS IN PALM BAY. WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THAT TIME? IT IS 40MPH. AND WHAT IS THE SPEED OF THIS VEHICLE? 51MPH. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND COULD YOU SCROLL TO THE FINAL TWO PAGES OF THE PACKET.
HEY, AND HAS THIS CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED?
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YES, SIR. IT HAS. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SUBJECT TO RECALL.
OKAY. WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY. NO, SIR.
OKAY. YOU PRESENT YOUR CASE? YES, PLEASE. PLEASE PRESENT YOUR CASE.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THAT MORNING WAS.
IT WAS MY BIRTHDAY. MY MOM WAS ALSO BEING RUSHED INTO EMERGENCY SURGERY, AND I'M NOT FROM THAT AREA.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I LIVE IN VERO BEACH, AND THE SPEED LIMITS IN SCHOOL ZONES ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
THERE WAS NO SPEED LIMIT SIGN THAT WAS IN THE AREA AS WAS STATED IN THE PHOTO AS WELL.
SO I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE MY MIND WAS ON MY MOTHER.
OKAY. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? NO.
BUT I HAVE NO LEGAL REASON WHY NOT TO UPHOLD IT.
AND I HAVE TO CALL THE STATUTES AND THE RULES.
SO BASED UPON THE TESTIMONY THAT WAS PRESENTED, I FIND THAT NOTICE 2030 8000 4804 1917 IS UPHELD, AND THAT THE PENALTY OF $100 WOULD BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS.
I'M SORRY I WENT THIS WAY, BUT I, YOU KNOW. YEAH, WELL, WE'RE DONE THIS MORNING.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? NO, SIR. OKAY.
WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT DAY.
CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4837 4629. NICOLE HOPES.
NICOLE HOPKINS, ADDRESS 687 NORTH STREET NORTHWEST.
OKAY. CITY. WHERE DO YOU PRESENT? I'M SORRY. POM POM POM POM POM CITY WHERE YOU PRESENT? YES. YOUR HONOR, PLEASE PROCEED. WITNESS. PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
THANK YOU. OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
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JEFF REARDON. THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SWORN AS A JUDGE STATED.ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS HEARING.
YES, SIR. AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? I AM, AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? YES, SIR. AND ARE THEY KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? THEY ARE. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE TICKET THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE PRESENTED IN FRONT OF ME ON THE COMPUTER.
ALL RIGHT. AND DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? YES, SIR. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THIS VEHICLE? THE FEMALE FEMALES STANDING IN FRONT OF ME AND NICOLE AND HOGWASH.
WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE, AND LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOUR, TEN, 20, 25 AT 3:28 P.M. AND THE LOCATION IS PALM BAY ROYAL CHARTER SCHOOL.
AND IS THAT IN A SCHOOL ZONE? IT IS. AND IS THAT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? YES. AND WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THIS ROAD AT THAT TIME? AT THAT TIME IS 20MPH. AND WHAT IS THIS VEHICLE SPEED? 40MPH. AND WOULD YOU PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT. AND HAS THIS CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES, SIR. IT HAS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YOUR HONOR, I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
SUBJECT TO RECALL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? NO. OKAY. DID I PRESENT YOUR CASE NOW? YES. OKAY.
PLEASE TALK TO THE MICROPHONE. TALK TO ME. I DON'T BELIEVE I WAS GOING 40 AND 20.
I FEEL THAT MAYBE THE LIGHT WAS NOT BLINKING BECAUSE THE REGULAR SPEED LIMIT IS 40.
AND I KNOW THAT I'M A TEACHER AT BREVARD COUNTY SCHOOLS.
I ALSO HAVE CHILDREN OF MY OWN. I WOULD NOT BE GOING 40 IN A 20 IF THE LIGHT WAS BLINKING.
SO I EXPLAINED TO YOU. SO YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVE TO LOOK AT.
THE LIGHTS ON ARE NOT A MAJOR ISSUE BECAUSE THE SIGN, AS LONG AS THE SIGNS, THEY'RE LIGHTS.
MORE OF A COURTESY, TECHNICALLY. WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I'M MORE OF A COURTESY.
SO IF THE SIGN WAS UP THERE AND THE TIMES ARE ON THE SIGN AT SPEED LIMIT, THEN.
THEN THEY FULFILLED THEIR OBLIGATION. THE BLINKING LIGHTS ARE.
OR THE TIME WAS ON THE SIGNS. DO WE KNOW THAT THE TIMES ARE ON THE SIGNS? YOU GOTTA TALK TO MIKE. DO WE KNOW THAT THE TIME IS ON THE SIGN? YEAH, IT'S THERE ON THE SIGNS AT TIMES. OR THAT IF.
BUT IF THEY'RE NOT. IF THERE'S NO TIMES ON THE SIGNS.
AND THEN WHEN THE LIGHT'S BLINKING. SO THEY HAVE SIGNS OF THE TIMES ON THE SIGNS.
IN THIS CASE. OKAY. LIGHTS BLINKING OR NOT. BUT THEY ALREADY PRESENT THE TESTIMONY.
THE LIGHTS ARE OPERATIONAL THAT DAY. THAT'S PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT THEY PRESENTED TO ME.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DEFENSES OR. NO, SIR.
OKAY. SORRY. THE VIOLATION. I FIND THAT VIOLATION NUMBER 2030 8000 4837 4629. BE UPHELD THAT THE FINAL $100 BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS. NO ADMINISTRATION FEE. THAT FAILURE TO PAY WITHIN 30 DAYS WILL BE IN CASE, BE FORWARDED TO A COLLECTION AGENCY WHERE HE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED CREDIT SCORE AND ADDITIONAL FEES WOULD APPLY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
CASE NUMBER 20308004715. 7517 JESSICA JONES. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? YES. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS DIRECTLY.
SORRY. JESSICA JONES, 1062 LOCUST AVENUE, PALM BAY, FLORIDA 32907.
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OKAY. CITY READY TO PRESENT. YES, YES, YOUR HONOR.OH, SORRY. OKAY. THE WITNESS. PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
READY, SIR. YES, SIR. OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
JEFF REARDON. THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SWORN AND STATED BY THE JUDGE.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT IS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS HEARING? I AM. ARE YOUR RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO, AND ARE THEY KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. AND HOW ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS TICKET? I HAVE THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE PULLED UP ON THE COMPUTER IN FRONT OF ME, AND I'VE VIEWED IT.
DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? IT DOES. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THIS VEHICLE? SEE A FEMALE STANDING IN FRONT OF ME? JESSICA MARGARET JONES.
AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THIS VIOLATION? THE DATE IS 331 2025 AT 7:32 A.M.. AND THE LOCATION IS LAMAR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ZONE. IT IS. AND IS THAT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? IT IS. WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THIS ROAD AT THAT TIME? IT IS 20MPH. AND WHAT IS THIS VEHICLE SPEED? 33MPH.
ALL RIGHT. COULD YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TWO PAGES FOR ME? ALL RIGHT. AND HAS THIS CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SUBJECT TO RECALL. YOUR HONOR. OKAY. MISS JONES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? I DO, I JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION, IF THAT'S OKAY.
ON MY VIOLATION, IT SAYS OFFICER E BERMUDEZ. IS THAT THE OFFICER THAT REVIEWED THE PICTURE? AND HE IS NOT HERE IN COURT? CORRECT. OKAY. SO I APPRECIATE YOU IN YOUR CAPACITY AS HERE, BUT I FEEL AS THOUGH I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FACE MY ACCUSER IN THAT INSTANCE. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? OKAY. WELL, YES, THERE'S QUESTIONS YOU COULD GIVE THE ARGUMENTS TO ME.
OH, THAT'S AN ARGUMENT QUESTION. OKAY. JUST ASK QUESTIONS.
ARGUMENTS. SO YOUR QUESTION IS THE OFFICER REVIEWED THE PICTURE IN COURT TODAY.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? YES. OKAY. AND THE ANSWER WAS NO.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE SENATE? NO.
THANK YOU. YOU WON'T PRESENT YOUR CASE. NOW, YOU COULD TALK TO ME.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M. I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS. I'M OKAY.
GETTING UP IN FRONT OF CROWDS OF PEOPLE IN ENTERTAINMENT.
BUT I'VE NEVER HAD TO DO ANYTHING OF THIS SORT.
I'VE BEEN ENLIGHTENED SITTING HERE, YOU KNOW, HEARING THE OTHER CASES.
I FELT THE FATHER SON REALLY PRESENTED A STRONG CASE.
AND IT REALLY SOLIDIFIED. I KNOW WHAT THE END RESULT WILL BE, BUT I WOULD STILL LIKE TO PRESENT MY CASE, IF THAT'S OKAY. I BELIEVE I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FACE MY ACCUSER IN COURT, I BELIEVE.
AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THAT IS A LAW THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO FACE MY ACCUSER.
OKAY. THERE IS MORE, UNLESS YOU'RE ABLE TO DISMISS IT ON JUST THAT.
PLEASE PRESENT. ALL RIGHT. I LIKE SO MANY OTHERS.
I DO NOT BELIEVE I WAS SPEEDING. I CAN SAY THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
WITH MY HEART. OKAY? WITH MY KNOWLEDGE, I AM A RULE FOLLOWER.
I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. YOU CAN CHECK MY DRIVER'S LICENSE.
I HAVE NOT HAD A SPEEDING TICKET IN OVER 20 YEARS, AND THAT WAS IN A DIFFERENT STATE THAT I GOT IN.
AND SO I WAS UNFAMILIAR. AND WE OFTENTIMES FIND THAT TICKETS COME WHEN YOU'RE IN UNFAMILIAR PLACES.
I AM A TEACHER AT PINEAPPLE COVE CLASSICAL ACADEMY.
I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR. I APPRECIATE THESE CAMERAS TO HELP SLOW DOWN THE TRAFFIC IN MY OBSERVANCE.
AFTER GETTING THIS CITATION, I NOTICED THAT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC IS VERY CONGESTED AT THAT TIME OF MORNING, AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BE GOING 33 MILES AN HOUR IN A 20 ZONE.
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AND SO I WAS NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM RIGHT IN THE MOMENT.AND, YOU KNOW, FACE NOT ONLY FACE MY ACCUSER, BUT BE ABLE TO LOOK DOWN AT MY SPEED AND GO, OH DARN, I, I DID MAKE A MISTAKE. I BELIEVE IN REPENTANCE.
I BELIEVE IN IN OWNING UP TO YOUR MISTAKES. RIGHT.
SO THAT'S MY CASE FOR THAT. ALSO, I BELIEVE IN HUMANITY, RIGHT? THE GIFT OF GRACE. THERE IS THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
THERE IS THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW. AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS TWO PAGES OF PEOPLE TO COME IN TODAY, THAT THE OFFICER WAS CHECKING US OFF. HOWEVER, I DON'T EVEN BELIEVE HALF THOSE PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
SO FOR ME. NOT THE LAW, BUT IN MY HEART. IF YOU SEE PEOPLE COME IN TO STATE THEIR CASE, MAYBE A LITTLE GRACE AND A LITTLE SOFTNESS COULD BE GIVEN. THINKING THEY MADE THE EFFORT TO COME IN BECAUSE THEY TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS INCORRECT.
WHATEVER HAPPENED, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE I STAND TODAY.
SO I ASK YOU TO RESPECTFULLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION I'M NOT IN FRONT OF THE OFFICER WHO CITED ME, AND I SAME EXCUSES, EVERYBODY. DON'T BELIEVE I WAS SPEEDING AND I'VE NOT HAD.
MY RECORD SHOWS THAT WITH THE OVER 20 YEARS OF NOT A SPEEDING TICKET TO MY NAME.
AND I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DISMISS THIS CASE. OKAY, LET'S TAKE THE FIRST ARGUMENT.
THE OFFICER DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HERE. THE RULES ALLOW TESTIMONY BY ADDITIONAL WITNESSES THAT ARE IN THE PACKAGE, THE AFFIDAVITS AND THE PAPERWORK SUPPLIED. IS IT BECAUSE IT'S A VIOLATION AND NOT A TICKET? EVEN IF THAT'S RIGHT, IT'S A VIOLATION IN THIS CASE.
BUT IT'S REAL. IT'S THE WAY THE STATUTES ARE WRITTEN FOR MY HUSBAND.
HAD HE WENT TO COURT FOR A TICKET YEARS AGO AND HE HAD A WHOLE STATEMENT.
BUT BECAUSE THE OFFICER DIDN'T SHOW, THEY DIDN'T EVEN LET HIM READ A STATEMENT THEY JUST DISMISSED.
A GOOD EXAMPLE YOU'RE ON A HIGHWAY SPEEDING ONE WITH A GUN.
THE OTHER ONE WRITES THE TICKET. WE GOT THE ONE WITH THE TICKET.
GOTCHA. THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. YES, IT'S IT'S.
IT'S A LOT. IT'S. IT'S OKAY. IT HAPPENS. THE SECOND ONE IS THAT YOU.
THAT YOU ARE A REAL FOLLOWER AND THAT YOU WOULDN'T NORMALLY DO THIS.
CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THE THIRD IS THE THE LETTER OF THE LAW VERSUS THE SPIRIT OF THE LAW.
I KNOW YOU HAVE TO UPHOLD THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
I KNOW TOO OFTEN YOU GUYS SEE PEOPLE RUN OUT OF HERE SO ANGRY WHEN YOU PULL PEOPLE OVER, THEY'RE LIKE, ANGRY WITH YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT. AND I KNOW WHAT'S COMING.
I'M FINE WITH THAT. I, I HAVE COME TO TERMS WITH IT AS I SAT HERE, BUT I CAN'T HELP BUT JUST THROW IN THERE AGAIN WITH THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU UPHOLD THE LAW, THE LETTER OF THE LAW.
BUT THERE ARE TIMES AND I KNOW YOU TOLD THE FATHER, SON, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT JUST THIS CASE, BUT SOMETIMES IN LIFE YOU HAVE TO BROADEN YOUR VIEW.
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON DEATH ROW WHO ARE FOUND. HEY THERE.
EVIDENCE THAT PUT THEM THERE WAS INCORRECT. RIGHT.
YOU MAY CALIBRATE IT, BUT IT STILL IT'S STILL QUESTIONABLE, AS WE'VE SEEN ALL AROUND THE COUNTY, THAT IT'S JUST A BIG BUNCH OF CONFUSION AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE FEELING VERY WRONGLY ACCUSED.
BUT I THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT SO VERY MUCH, AND I THANK YOU FOR ALL THE JOBS THAT YOU DO.
I REALLY DO. IT'S A HARD JOB, RIGHT? AND I FEEL YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
I KNOW YOU TOLD ME I HAVE A JOB AND I HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES, YOU KNOW? BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, I HAVE TO UPHOLD YOUR VIOLATION.
SO I FIND THAT IN CASE NUMBER.
2030 8000 4715 7517. THAT THAT FINE OF $100 BE IMPOSED THAT THE PENALTY AND ADMINISTRATIVE FEES IS ZERO.
FIND IT TO PAY WITHIN 30 DAYS. THEY PAY THE FINE MAY RESULT IN BEING CALLED TO A COLLECTION AGENCY, WHICH COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE CREDIT SCORE AND RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES.
IF YOU HAVE ANY IF YOU'D LIKE TO APPEAL THE DECISION, YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
GET THE TRANSCRIPT AND GO FORWARD FROM THERE.
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I KNOW THE SPIRIT. AND SOMETIMES THE SPIRIT VERSUS THE LETTER DO.AND I BELIEVE AS A MAGISTRATE, YOU HAVE LITTLE POWER.
TO BE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE WOULD BE. WOULD BE A LITTLE I DON'T KNOW.
THANK YOU. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I DO APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.
YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU.
OKAY. NEXT. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4793 8602. STEVEN SCHELLER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. STEVEN SCHELLER, 2970 TRIPPER DRIVE, NORTHEAST.
OKAY, OKAY. CITY READY? PRESENT. YES, YOUR HONOR.
OKAY. PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT.
JEFF REARDON. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR. AND YOU REMAIN PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
WHAT DO YOU HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW? I HAVE THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
NOTICE OF VIOLATION. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS HEARING. YES, SIR.
AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? I AM, AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? YES, SIR, I DO. AND ARE THESE RECORDS KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? THEY ARE. ALL RIGHT. WHAT IS THIS DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW? AND THIS IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY. NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? IT DOES. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER FOR THE COMPANY? STAND IN FRONT OF ME, STEPHEN A SHELL AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THIS VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOR SEVEN, 2025 AT 1:31 P.M. AND THE LOCATION IS ODYSSEY CHARTER.
AND IS THAT A SCHOOL ZONE AREA? IT IS. AND IS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY? YES. WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME? AT THIS TIME IS 35MPH. AND WHAT WAS THE VEHICLE SPEED? 46MPH. AND CAN YOU SCROLL TO THE LAST TWO PAGES? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND HAS THE CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES IT IS. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
SUBJECT TO RECALL, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY, SIR? MAYBE I COULD GET A 30 DAY EXTENSION. I WAS NEVER PROVIDED IN AN EVIDENCE PACKAGE.
DO YOU WANT A CONTINUANCE TO REVIEW THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE? YEAH, I WOULD. I MEAN, I'M HERE TO DEFEND MYSELF, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION OTHER THAN WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.
JUST LIKE I'M HEARING THAT YOU DON'T. WHEN IT COMES TO WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER THING THAT YOU WANTED AT THIS SECOND YEAR WHEN YOU GOT YOUR CONTINUANCE? OKAY. HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ADD TO THAT CONTINUANCE? WELL, YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT COURT DATE, WHICH WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 8TH.
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THAT. SO. SO YOU WANT TO MOVE THIS TO SEPTEMBER 8TH NUMBER EIGHTH AT 10 A.M..WHAT'S THAT? RIGHT. HOWEVER, HE HE REACHES OUT TO US OR CONTACTS US.
WE CAN WORK THAT OUT. OKAY, MAYBE YOU CAN PROVIDE ME A NUMBER.
WHO? I, I DON'T EVEN SORRY. I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME.
I'M SORRY. I'M FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. OKAY. YOU CAN CONTACT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S.
AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME? ATTORNEY. MESSENGER. I'M SORRY.
MESSENGER. MESSENGER. OKAY. SO THAT'LL BE SEPTEMBER 9TH, NOT SEPTEMBER 8TH.
SO MAKE THAT CORRECTION ON YOUR NOTES, PLEASE.
BUT YOU GOT YOUR CONTINUANCE, SO I'M GOOD. OKAY.
YOU ASKED ME IF I HAD ANYTHING ELSE, AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO WE'RE GOING TO GO MOVE FORWARD TO CONTINUANCE, AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN A MONTH. WE'LL SEE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 9TH.
OH, OKAY. AND I DID, I HAD ANOTHER I GOT ANOTHER TICKET HERE.
OH. AND TICKETS. SO YOU'RE GOING TO WE'LL CONTINUE BOTH TICKETS THEN YOU GET BOTH.
LET'S CALL THE SECOND CASE, AND WE'LL DO THIS ORDERLY.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE THAT CASE TO, BASED ON YOUR REQUEST FOR AN EVIDENCE PACKAGE.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE THAT SEPTEMBER 9TH. OKAY. SO WAIT A MINUTE.
THEY'RE GOING TO CALL THE CASE AGAIN. YEAH. YOUR HONOR, I DO NOT HAVE THE SECOND CASE ON TODAY'S.
I ONLY SAW ONE FOR HIM. YES, SIR. WE ONLY HAVE ONE CASE FOR YOU.
SO IF THERE'S ANOTHER CASE, IT'S NOT SET FOR TODAY.
I KNOW I CAN'T GET ANYBODY TO SEND ME A LETTER LIKE IT SAYS.
REQUEST A LETTER WHEN YOU GET THE LETTER. IN ORDER TO GET A RESPONSE.
IF I ASK YOU TO CALL IN AND REQUEST IF YOU'RE GOING FOR A HEARING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? YES. YOU DIDN'T GET A HEARING DATE YET? NO.
OKAY. THERE'S NOTHING. WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT. OKAY.
I. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OF SETTING HEARING DATES.
ALL I CAN DO IS CONTINUE THE ONE WE HAVE TODAY TO SEPTEMBER 9TH.
OKAY. WHAT I WAS GETTING AT IS WHEN YOU'RE CALLING THE CITY, I'M NOT GETTING THE RESPONSE THAT I WOULD EXPECT FROM THE CITY WHEN I'M CALLING TO GET A QUESTION ABOUT A TICKET THAT YOU'RE SENDING ME. THAT'S ALL I MEAN.
OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'LL SEE YOU SEPTEMBER 9TH.
WE'LL SEE YOU ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. OKAY. THANK YOU.
EXCUSE. EXCUSE ME ONE SECOND. KATHY. I DON'T SEE WHERE THE CONTINUANCE OF ARE IN MIKE. I NORMALLY HAVE THEM, BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE.
OH, OKAY. LET'S DO IT THIS WAY. OKAY. THIS POSITION WE SPENT.
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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4769 3581 DANIEL CANNON.SORRY, IT'S NOT VERY SENSITIVE. OH. SHE'S GONE.
OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS DANIEL CANNON.
MY ADDRESS IS 409 ZERO FROST ROAD, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY, 32908 OKAY.
CITY READY TO PRESENT. YES, YOUR HONOR. WITNESS PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT? JEFF REARDON. AND YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SWORN, AS STATED BY THE JUDGE.
WHAT IS THIS DOCUMENT UP ON THE SCREEN? THIS FORM IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
NOTICE OF VIOLATION. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE MATTER. THE SUBJECT HERE I AM. AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO. AND ARE THESE RECORDS KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THIS CITY? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND WHAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT'S ON THIS FORM? BASICALLY, IT'S THE IT'S THE CIVIL CITATION THAT IS SENT OFF TO THE REGISTERED OWNER FOR THE VIOLATION THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED.
IT STIPULATES THE DATE, TIME, LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION.
ALL RIGHT. DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? YES, SIR.
IT DOES. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? YEAH. GENTLEMAN IS STANDING IN FRONT OF ME, MR. DANIEL CANNON.
AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOR FOUR, 20, 25 AT 12:17 P.M., AND THE LOCATION IS WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY.
IT IS NORTHBOUND. OKAY. AND IS THAT IN THE SCHOOL ZONE? YES, SIR. AND IS THAT IN PALM BAY? IT IS. AND WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME? 40MPH. AND WHAT WAS THE VEHICLE SPEED? 51MPH.
AND COULD YOU SCROLL TO THE LAST TWO PAGES OF THE DOCUMENT, PLEASE? ALL RIGHT. HAS THE CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? YES, SIR. IT HAS. THANK YOU. KNOW FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
SUBJECT TO RECALL, YOUR HONOR. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? I'D JUST LIKE TO CORRECT THE RECORD THAT I'M A REGISTERED OWNER OF THE TRUCK, NOT THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE TRUCK.
OKAY, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU ARE THE REGISTER ON THE TRUCK.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE REGISTERED OWNERS OF THE TRUCK.
THE TRUCK IS OWNED BY MORE THAN MYSELF. OKAY.
OKAY. I'M NOT GATHERING WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME.
YOU'RE TALKING TO MICROPHONE. THERE'S TWO PARTIES THAT OWN THE VEHICLE.
OKAY. ONE PARTY. ANOTHER PARTY IS ALSO A REGISTERED RIGHT.
AN INJURED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE SPEEDING? CORRECT. I GOT A TICKET, AND I'M NOT. I WASN'T DRIVING THE TRUCK.
I HAVE A TIME CARD FROM MY WORK SHOWING I WAS CLOCKED IN FOR THE TIME PERIOD OF THIS TICKET.
AND THIS TICKET WAS SENT TO ME. BUT I'M NOT THE PERSON THAT DID IT.
ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE I'M GOING TO READ INTO THIS? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, OKAY, THAT EITHER IT'S A WORK TRUCK OR A SPOUSE OR SOMEBODY ELSE DRIVING THE VEHICLE, AND YOU WILL WORK AT THE TIME. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? I'M NOT AWARE OF WHO WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE AT THE TIME. OKAY, SO I WAS AT WORK IS.
OKAY. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE KEYS TO YOUR VEHICLE? TWO PEOPLE HAVE KEYS TO THE VEHICLE. THE TWO REGISTERED OWNERS, BESIDES THEM.
ONE OTHER PERSON. OKAY. AND YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T KNOW WHO'S TRYING TO TRUCK? IF YOU WEREN'T DRIVING THE TRUCK, THERE WOULD BE NO WAY FOR ME TO KNOW WHO WAS DRIVING THE TRUCK. I WASN'T THERE, I WASN'T WITH THE TRUCK. DID YOU INQUIRE? AS OF US, IT'S NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY TO INVESTIGATE.
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OVER, AND I DIDN'T GIVE THEM, I WASN'T WITH THE TRUCK.I DIDN'T GIVE ANYBODY PERMISSION TO DRIVE THE TRUCK.
OKAY. SO CO-OWNER HAS NO PERMISSION TO DRIVE THE TRUCK.
NICOLE, THE TRUCK HAS NO PERMISSION TO DRIVE THE TRUCK.
I CAN'T TELL THE OWNER OF ANYTHING TO WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEY CAN'T TELL YOU. CORRECT. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY. THE ONLY THING I WILL ASK IF YOU'RE WILLING TO DO THE AFFIDAVIT OF THE THIRD PARTY DRIVER.
YOU'RE AN OWNER OF THE TRUCK. YOUR RESPONSE WILL, IF THAT TRUCK YOU THE CHILD, YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE. WHETHER YOU DRIVING DIDN'T GET PERMISSION TO GET PERMISSION. YOU'RE STILL THE OWNER OF THE TRUCK, SO I.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. MY. I'M A OWNER. NOW, YOU KEEP SAYING THE OWNER.
I'M NOT THE OWNER. THERE IS NO THE OWNER. I'M A OWNER OF THE TRUCK.
RIGHT. JOINTLY AND SEVERALLY LIABLE. WHICH MEANS YOU'RE JOINTLY LIABLE OR YOU'RE INDIVIDUALLY LIABLE, DEPENDING UPON HOW IT'S HOW IT'S LOOKED AT. IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE AN INDIVIDUAL, NOT A JOINT.
OTHERWISE I HAVE I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GIVE YOU THE NAME OF THE DRIVER.
I WASN'T WITH THE VEHICLE. I WAS IN SEBASTIAN, FLORIDA.
I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS DRIVING THE VEHICLE. I DIDN'T INVESTIGATE IT.
I HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY TO INVESTIGATE ANY CITATION OR VIOLATION OF THIS CITY.
I DON'T KNOW. YEAH. I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE BACK AND FORTH.
BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR VEHICLE? NO MATTER. ANY TIME, 24 HOURS A DAY.
WHATEVER I WAS DRIVING, IT'S NOT MY VEHICLE. I'M PART OWNER OF A VEHICLE.
IT'S PART OWNER. THE WORD ON IS THERE. SO WHY DON'T YOU OWN PART OF THE VEHICLE? NO. SO IF SOMEBODY STOLE MY VEHICLE AND HIT A KID WITH IT, I WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VEHICLE. AT ALL TIMES.
EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY. ABSOLUTELY. I DO NOT AGREE WITH THAT.
OKAY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I YOU GET ON THAT.
I'M WILLING TO GIVE YOU A CONTINUANCE TO INVESTIGATE. IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO INVESTIGATE AND GIVE US THE NAME OF THE DRIVER AND DO THE AFFIDAVIT. I'M I I'M JUST PRESENTING EVIDENCE THAT I WAS NOT WITH THE VEHICLE. HERE IT IS, RIGHT HERE.
I'M NOT WITH THE VEHICLE. AND THERE'S ALSO NO WAY FOR ME TO KNOW.
LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO'S DRIVING THE VEHICLE, YOU NEED TO TAKE THE PERSON.
OTHER PERSON, THE OTHER RESPONSIBLE PARTY. THERE'S TWO REGISTERED UNDER THE VEHICLES.
I GOT THE TICKET. I CAN PROVE THAT I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TICKET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I CAN DO BEYOND THAT. I BROUGHT PROOF TODAY THAT I DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIME OR THE VIOLATION OF THE REGISTRATION OR SOMETHING IN MY VEHICLE OUTSIDE OF HERE. YOU WANT TO GO GET THAT SHOW? ABSOLUTELY. I LOVE THAT BOTH NAMES ARE ON THE THING, AND IT WAS A CITY ALSO WILLING TO ISSUE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS JOINT OWNERSHIP.
HOW DOES THE CITY DETERMINE WHO GETS THE NOTICE? WELL, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE? THE WHOLE HEARING, YOU HAVEN'T HELD YOURSELF TO THE SAME STANDARD THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN HELD TO.
TELL ME THAT. COULD YOU PLEASE HOLD HIM TO THE SAME STANDARD THAT YOU HOLD EVERYONE ELSE HERE TOO? I THANK YOU. I HOPE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS. OKAY.
I LIKE THAT ARGUMENT. IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH.
I GET IT. I ASK THE QUESTION THAT YOU BASICALLY WANT ANSWERED.
CORRECT? CORRECT. SO LET'S HAVE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.
THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR. HE CAN BRING IN THE REGISTRATION AND WE CAN SEE WHAT IT SAYS PER THE TICKET.
NAME THE OTHER PERSON WHO IS INVOLVED. OTHERWISE, HE'S STILL RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TICKET.
YOUR HONOR. OKAY, NOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK, A JOINT OWNERSHIP? THAT'S THAT'S MY QUESTION. IF HE HAS JOINT OWNERSHIP WITH A THIRD PARTY HE CLAIMS HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THE VEHICLE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, BUT HE HAS PROOF HE WASN'T DRIVING IT, WHICH I DIDN'T LOOK AT YET.
BECAUSE I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, TOO.
OKAY. BUT THE OTHER OWNER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING.
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THAT'S NOT SPEEDING. I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.WELL, IT'S READ SPEED SENDS OUT THE CERTIFICATES, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW READ SPEED DOES THAT.
I COULD WE COULD SPEND THE NEXT MONTH AND I COULD CONTACT THEM AND FIND OUT.
OKAY. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE SPEED MAKES THAT DETERMINATION.
THIS GENTLEMAN SENT THE PAPERWORK. AND DID HE WRITE THAT HE WAS ON DRIVING THE VEHICLE? WHAT WAS THAT? YOUR HONOR, WHEN HE ASKED ME THE HEARING, WAS THERE ANY EXPLANATION? THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'M ASKING.
IT'S AN AUTOMATED SYSTEM. OH, GOD. AND THE WAY THEY THE WAY THEY ISSUE THE TICKET IS BY THE FIRST NAME AND THE REGISTRATION. WHOEVER'S NAME APPEARS FIRST ON THE TITLE.
LET ME SEE YOUR EVIDENCE. SO I HAVE THIS TIME.
I'D HAVE TO GO TO THE TRUCK FOR THE REGISTRATION.
OKAY. PLEASE DO. I WANT TO SEE THAT, TOO? THIS.
HOW DO YOU HOLD EVIDENCE? I'LL MAKE IT JUST IN CASE FOR APPEAL PURPOSES.
HOW DO YOU TAKE AN OFFENSE? IN. THE CITY. FOR NOW, I SORT OF FOUND.
OTHER CASES THAT. ARE NORMALLY USED BY THE INTERPRETER.
JUST ONE JOB. CAN WE HAVE THE NEXT? THAT'S MR. I CAN'T BREATHE. RIGHT.
MR.. HARDY. I'M SORRY, SIR. OH MY GOD. I LIKE.
THAT MIGHT BE THE WRONG ONE. MAYBE THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE.
IS THAT A BLACK FORD? 2004 24. OKAY, SO.
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COPY THAT. COPY THAT. OKAY. LET'S DO THAT. WHO'S PRESENTING? SO, HOBBIES. YOU CAN KEEP THE TIME CARD AS A COPY.OKAY. ONCE YOU COME BACK WITH COPIES. OR.
I'M LOOKING AT THE NOTICE JUST TO MAKE SURE I'M CORRECT.
SUBMISSION AFFIDAVIT. YOU MAY DOWNLOAD AN AFFIDAVIT AS REGISTRAR OF THE VEHICLE.
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YOU ARE DEEMED RESPONSIBLE FOR THE VIOLATION. PAYMENT $100 AND COMPLIANCE ESTABLISHES ONE AFFIDAVIT EXEMPTION.APPLIES THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE DRIVER OF THE MOTOR VEHICLE FOR VIOLATION.
IN THE AFFIDAVIT, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE NAME, ADDRESS, DATE OF BIRTH AND DRIVER'S LICENSE.
THE DRIVER JUST SAYS THEY'RE IN CARE, CUSTODY AND CONTROL AT THE TIME.
YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME THE DRIVER. AT THE VERY BEGINNING, IT SAYS THE REGISTERED OWNER.
AND I'M NOT THE REGISTERED OWNER. YOU GOTTA YOU GOTTA BE CLEAR.
I'M A REGISTERED OWNER. THE REGISTERED OWNER IMPLIES THAT THERE IS A SINGLE OWNER.
THERE'S NOT A SINGLE OWNER. THERE ARE TWO OWNERS.
I'M A REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR FRUSTRATION.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME. BUT THERE'S TWO. WHICH, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU'RE BOTH.
YOU'RE BOTH RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT VEHICLE. MY, MY, I'M THE ONLY ONE BEING HELD RESPONSIBLE.
MY QUESTION. YOU. BUT BUT YOU COULD YOU COULD SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT SAYING THAT I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE.
I WASN'T DRIVING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO HAS CUSTODY CONTROL.
YOU KNOW YOU DO BECAUSE THE REGISTERED OWNER APPEARS TO BE YOUR WIFE OR A FAMILY MEMBER.
SO, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU THROW YOUR WIFE IN THE BUS OR SOMEBODY ELSE THAT CAN BE DRIVING IT, BUT SOMEBODY DRIVES A VEHICLE, SOMEBODY DRIVES BOTH VEHICLES.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MECHANISM.
SO AGAIN, HOW IS IT WORKED WHEN YOU HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES SPOKE TO THE MICROPHONE AS YOU SAID THAT YOU HAVE TWO OWNERS OF A VEHICLE, I WOULD HAVE TO ASK READ SPEED HOW THEY MAKE THAT DECISION, YOUR HONOR, BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE THE ONES WHO SEND OUT THE NOTICES.
SO SINCE WE DON'T SEND OUT, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF HOW THEY PICK WHICH ONE, YOU KNOW, RECEIVES IT. OKAY. SO IF IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO WANT TO CONTINUE THE CASE, WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.
OR NOT, IF YOU CARE. SO NOW, IS THE CITY ASKING ME FOR A CONTINUANCE TO REVIEW THIS AND DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THE CASE? NO, YOUR HONOR, I'M NOT ASKING YOU FOR A CONTINUANCE.
YOU. AM I RIGHT WITH YOU MAKING A DECISION BASED ON WHAT YOU HAVE, IF YOU WISH.
I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER TICKET THAT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME DEFENSE ON YOUR OTHER TICKET.
ABSOLUTELY. IT'S THE SAME THING. THE SAME TIME CARD COVERS IT.
OKAY. I'M GOING TO. I'M GOING TO SET A CONTINUANCE ON THIS MATTER TO NEXT.
I'M GOING TO RESEARCH IT AND SEE WHAT THE STATUTES AND THE RULES SAY ON THIS INCIDENT.
SO SEND THE TICKET TO THE OTHER REGISTERED OWNER, AND IT'S NOT MY JOB TO DO Y'ALL'S JOB.
I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR ARGUMENT. I'M NOT I'M GOING TO RESEARCH YOUR ARGUMENT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU DO, BECAUSE CONTINUING THIS AND CAUSING ME ANOTHER DAY OF LOST WORK IS COSTING ME MORE THAN THE EXTORTION I'M ALREADY FACING.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE WAS AN AFFIDAVIT THAT WAS REQUIRED.
THAT'S ON YOUR NOTICE. THE AFFIDAVIT IS REQUIRED FROM THE REGISTERED OWNER.
YOU'RE THE NAME ON THE TICKET. YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO IT OR YOU DIDN'T.
I ASKED FOR A HEARING WHERE I PROVED THAT IT WASN'T ME.
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE. I CAN JUST READ THE WORDS ON THE PAGE.
THE PAGE SAYS THE REGISTERED OWNER. YOU DIDN'T SEND THE TICKET TO THE REGISTERED OWNER.
YOU SENT A TICKET TO A REGISTERED OWNER. YOU'RE NOT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT YOU'RE A REGISTERED OWNER TO ME, WHICH IS HOW THE REGISTRATION. I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES THAT I'M A REGISTERED OWNER.
RIGHT. SO FOR YOU TO SAY THAT I'M NOT ACKNOWLEDGING IT IS A LIE.
NO, NO, I SAID, I'M NOT THE I AM NOT THE REGISTERED OWNER.
IT'S WORDS THAT MATTER. I'M GOING TO PUT IT TO THE CONTINUANCE.
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I'M SORRY THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE MORE TIME OFF FROM WORK ON THIS THING. I'M GOING TO CONTINUE BOTH OF YOUR CASES. WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE OTHER ONE, CONTINUE IT. AND THEN I'M GOING TO RESEARCH THIS BECAUSE YOU HAVE BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE WHERE THERE'S A JOINT OWNER, AN A AND A V, BUT IT ISN'T FAIR TO DISMISS MY CASE AND THEN RESEARCH FOR THE FUTURE.IF YOU WERE TO FOLLOW THE THE THE THE THE THING I WOULD HAVE, I WOULD.
IT GIVES ME BETTER. I FOLLOW THE VERBIAGE IN.
IT IS WRONG AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. WE CAN'T GO UP THIS WAY DOWN HERE.
WE CAN'T. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DISCUSSING THIS AND TALKING ABOUT THIS THING.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. WE CAN'T TALK OVER EACH OTHER.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE NO RECORD. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? IF I GO AGAINST YOU, YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO APPEAL AND GET THE THINGS STRAIGHTENED? BUT I'M NOT SAYING YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ME. WE GOT TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THIS ONE AT A TIME.
OKAY? I KNOW YOU'RE FRUSTRATED ON THIS, BUT IF YOU WOULD HAVE JUST SUBMITTED THE AFFIDAVIT, SAY I'M NOT THE REGISTERED OWNER, I'M ONE OF THE REGISTERED OWNERS, AND I WASN'T DRIVING AT THE TIME, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED THE RULES. THE AFFIDAVIT DOESN'T ASK THAT. IT ASKED FOR WHO WAS DRIVING THE CAR.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SUBMIT AN AFFIDAVIT AND ASK YOU DIRECTLY WHO'S DRIVING THE CAR TO SUPPLY A BIRTHDATE, ALL THAT INFORMATION, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T WITH THE CAR.
I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. I DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION.
IT DOESN'T ASK WHO'S DRIVING THE CAR. S WHO HAS CUSTODY OF CONTROL OF THE CAR OTHER THAN YOU.
AND THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT ASKS. BUT I CAN'T ANSWER IT, I CAN'T.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE DID. I WASN'T WITH THE CAR.
I WASN'T WITH THE CAR. IT'S Y'ALL'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT THE TICKET IN THE RIGHT PERSON'S HAND.
I'M AN INNOCENT PERSON WHO'S PROVING THAT I'M INNOCENT.
THAT'S CRAZY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE YOUR ARGUMENTS, BUT I CAN'T.
I HAVE TO RESEARCH THIS ARGUMENT BECAUSE YOU MADE AN ARGUMENT, I AGREE.
OKAY. COULD YOU SEEK IT OUT FOR HIS WIFE AND THEN HAVE HER HERE? SO LET'S HAVE BOTH HERE, AND THEN WE'LL FIND OUT WHO'S DRIVING.
AND THAT WAY WE COULD WE COULD SETTLE THE ISSUE.
YOU CAN'T JUST PASS IT HERE AND TELL ME, HEY, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S DRIVING MY CAR, BUT MY WIFE'S THE OTHER REGISTERED OWNER WHO'S PROBABLY PARKED IN THE DRIVEWAY. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO USE COMMON SENSE HERE.
I CAN'T SIT HERE AND THINK IN A VACUUM, BUT YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE ME DO.
WHAT YOU'RE MAKING ME DO IS PROVE I'M INNOCENT.
I SHOULD BE INNOCENT UNTIL YOU PROVE THAT I'M GUILTY.
HIS THE PERSON THAT ALSO HAS CONTROL AND CUSTODY OF THE CAR.
THE AFFIDAVIT DOESN'T ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. IT'S THE AFFIDAVIT SWORN.
THE AFFIDAVIT SAYS THE REGISTERED OWNER HAS TO DO THAT.
THE TICKET DIDN'T GO TO THE PERSON THAT DID THE CRIME WHO IS A REGISTERED OWNER.
LIKE IT NEVER HAD THE CAR THEN IS A REGISTERED OWNER.
OKAY, I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE WITH YOU ON THIS.
IT'S CONTINUED. CONTINUE. BOTH TICKETS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT, AND MAYBE THEY'LL EVEN BRING YOUR WIFE INTO IT INSTEAD OF HAVING BAIT FOR HER. I DON'T KNOW. NOTICE THAT.
SO. THAT'S RIGHT. AND IN THAT WAY WE COULD GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN SONG.
OKAY. ADJOURNED TO SEPTEMBER 9TH AT 10 A.M.. THIS CASE NUMBER.
2030 8000 4769 3581. AND THEN THAT'S ALSO WE'RE GOING TO ALSO CONTINUE. CASE NUMBER 20308000047638393 TO SEPTEMBER 9TH. AM I GOING TO GET PUNISHED AGAIN TO BE WAITED ALL THE WAY TO THE LAST PERSON? BECAUSE I HAVE TWO CASES, AGAIN BECAUSE MY NAME WAS HIGH ON THE LIST, BUT I GOT SKIPPED OVER BECAUSE I HAVE TWO CASES, RIGHT? SO AGAIN, YOU HAD ME LIKE I LOST FOUR HOURS OF PAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE TEN AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET BACK TO WORK FOR AGAIN, THE PUNISHMENT OF ME TRYING TO DEFEND MY INNOCENCE IS OUT OF CONTROL.
IT'S GOING TO COST ME TWICE THE MONEY JUST THEN.
JUST TO PAY FOR THE POINT OF YOU TICKETING SOMEONE WHO'S INNOCENT.
THIS IS NOT A PUNISHED. I'M NOT HERE TO PUNISH 100% PUNISHMENT.
THIS IS YOU'RE NOT HANDLING. WHAT ABOUT? YOU SHOULD HANDLE THE CASE WITH THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE HERE.
I DIDN'T ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE. HE DIDN'T ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
IF FOR ME, IF I. EITHER ONE OF THEM. IT'S OUR CASE, RIGHT? IT'S ME AGAINST THE CITY. NEITHER ONE OF US ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE.
IF I HANDLE THE CASE WITH THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED. YOU DID NOT SUBMIT THE AFFIDAVIT GIVEN THE THIRD PARTY THAT'S IN CUSTODY, CONTROL OF THE CAR. THAT'S WHY I'M CONTINUING THE CASE TO SEE WHETHER IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO ANYWAY, I'M GOING TO APPEAL IT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO A REAL JUDGE TO TO WHERE I HAVE TO BE PROVEN GUILTY.
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IF YOU WANT, WE COULD DO A. DECISION. NOW, WE WON'T CONTINUE IT, AND I.THE TIME RECORD WAS PUT INTO EVIDENCE AND YOU COULD APPEAL IT.
I'M GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH IT AND COME UP WITH AN ANSWER AND SEE IF YOU'RE CORRECT.
I GUESS. FINISH THE CASE AND I'LL JUST APPEAL IT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING ANYWAY. LIKE IT DOESN'T. I'M BEING PUNISHED ANYWAY, SO I JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH MY STEPS. SO LET'S SIT DOWN AND WE'LL REHEAR MY NEXT CASE.
OKAY. SO LET'S STRIKE THE CONTINUANCE. AND WE'RE ONLY GOING IN THIS CASE.
THE OTHER CASE WE'LL HAVE TO DO SEPARATELY. AND IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF THE TIME COURT FOR THE OTHER CASE, WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS A DIFFERENT DAY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S THAT SAME DAY. WHAT'S THAT? IT'S THE EXACT SAME DAY.
SAME DAY? HOW FAR APART? WELL, ONE WAS IN THE MORNING AND ONE WAS IN AT NOON.
OKAY. SO LET'S START WITH OKAY. WELL, YOU DO NOT WANT TO CONTINUE. EXTEND.
CORRECT? NO, I WANT TO BE DISMISSED BECAUSE Y'ALL ARE NEITHER ONE OF US.
ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE. THE COURT CAN CONTINUE CASES ON ITS OWN.
OKAY, OKAY. WELL, BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED BEFORE THE COURT.
CASE NUMBER 20308000047693581. WE'RE GOING TO QUOTE THE VIOLATION THE THE IN THE NOTICE, AN AFFIDAVIT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SUBMITTED OF A PARTY THAT ALSO HAD CONTROLLED CUSTODY OF THE VEHICLE, WHICH WAS NOT DONE. AND SUCH. SINCE THERE WAS NO AFFIDAVIT SUBMITTED.
WE'RE GOING TO UPHOLD THE VIOLATION. THAT $100 BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS, THAT THERE'S NO ADMINISTRATIVE FEE TO PAY THE THE $100 MAY RESULT IN THE PHOTO COLLECTION AGENCY, WHICH MAY RESULT IN IMPACTING YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND ADDITIONAL FEES.
LET'S CALL THE NEXT CASE. NEXT CASE IS 20308000476389. CORRECTION. I'M GOING TO START AGAIN 2030 8000 4763 8393. DANIEL CAN.
REMAIN SWORN IN. OKAY. WHAT'S THAT? 393. YES. OKAY, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. DANIEL CANNON 490 FRANCE ROAD, SOUTHWEST PALM BAY, 32908. OKAY. CITY READY TO PRESENT. YES, YOUR HONOR.
WITNESS PREVIOUSLY SWORN. THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO.
CAN YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT?
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JEFF REARDON AND YOU REMAIN PREVIOUSLY SWORN.ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT IS THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS HEARING.
I AM. AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO, AND THESE RECORDS KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY.
YES, SIR. WHAT IS THIS PACKET THAT WE HAVE UP IN FRONT OF US? THIS FORM IN FRONT OF US IS THE CITY OF PALM BAY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? IT DOES. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF ME, MR. DANIEL CANNON.
WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOR FOUR, 20, 25 AT 7:51 A.M.. THE LOCATION IS WEST SIDE ELEMENTARY NORTHBOUND ON THE ROUTE, AND THAT IS IN THE SCHOOL ZONE. IT IS AND IS THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY? IT IS. WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME IS 20MPH.
AND WHAT IS THIS VEHICLE SPEED? 36MPH. ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. AND CAN YOU SCROLL TO THE BOTTOM TWO PAGES OF THIS DOCUMENT.
THANK YOU. AND HAS THIS CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? IT HAS. THANK YOU. YEAH. WE DON'T HAVE. I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS SUBJECT TO RECALL.
OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT AS PREVIOUS? CORRECT. I'M GOING TO CORRECT THE RECORD AS I AM A REGISTERED OWNER, NOT THE REGISTERED OWNER AGAIN.
OKAY. SO IT'S ON THE RECORD NOW. YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT YOU GAVE EARLIER TODAY.
CORRECT. I'M GOING TO ARGUE THAT I WASN'T IN THE VEHICLE, AND I HAVE A TIME CARD TO PROVE THAT I WASN'T IN THE VEHICLE, AND THAT THERE IS ANOTHER REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE, WHICH IS THE SAME ARGUMENT YOU GAVE IN THE PREVIOUS CASE.
SO YOU DO YOUR APPEAL. IT WILL BE THE SAME. YOU'LL HAVE TO ORDER TWO TRANSCRIPTS OKAY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE THE ARGUMENTS AND THE AND IN BOTH CASES, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE SAME ARGUMENT YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE, IT'S GOING TO BE SAME TIME. CORRECT. THEY'RE GOING TO HANDLE THEM SEPARATELY.
WHEN I APPEAL THEM. WELL, THEY PUT TOGETHER. YEAH.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT SHORTER FOR YOU TO SAVE SOME MONEY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU APPEAL, YOU HAVE TO ORDER A TRANSCRIPT. SO I'M TRYING TO KEEP THIS ONE SHORT FOR YOU. OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE OTHER ONE ANYWAY.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO CONSOLIDATE THE ARGUMENTS OF THAT CASE INTO THIS CASE.
SO YOU COULD YOU GET ON THIS CASE, YOU COULD SUBMIT BOTH TRANSCRIPTS.
OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHY I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP.
I CAN TELL HOW MUCH YOU HELP IN THIS INSTANCE.
NOW, LET ME MAKE SURE I WRITE CASE NUMBER FOR THIS CASE.
IS THIS THE CLERK? THE LAST FOUR DIGITS. THE LAST FOUR DIGITS IS EIGHT, THREE, NINE THREE.
SO, BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, I FIND THAT NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4763 8393. THAT THE TICKET BE UPHELD? BASED ON THE SAME FINDINGS OF THE LAST CASE, NO AFFIDAVIT WAS FILED.
AS SUCH, THE DEFINES $100 TO BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS.
NO ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. THEY PAY THE FINE WITHIN THE TIME PROVIDED.
OKAY. ANY ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. IS THERE GOING TO BE SOMETHING IN THE MAIL? HOW DO I GET THE INFORMATION FOR IT? RECEIVE IT IN THE MAIL.
IT'LL COME IN THE MAIL IN TIME. PLENTY OF TIME.
YOU'RE GOING TO RECEIVE. I'M ASSUMING IT'S MAILED LIKE THE REST OF THE NOTICES.
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CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4826 0369 NELSON. COMPARE.PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL TRUTH? THE WHOLE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH WILL HELP YOU OUT I DO, YEAH.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. 527 KISSENA AVENUE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA. 32101032909 NELSON COMPARE. OKAY, IS THE CITY READY TO PRESENT THIS CASE? OKAY. YES, SIR. WITNESS PREVIOUSLY SWORN. YES.
OKAY. AND IN CASE THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF THE CASE NUMBER IS.
0369. SO THIS WE GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU.
WE PRESENT THE CASE. THANK YOU. SO PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
JEFF REARDON. AND YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY SWORN.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION? THAT'S THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS YEAR.
I AM, AND ARE YOU THE ARE YOUR RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? YES. AND DO YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? I DO. ARE THESE RECORDS KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF US? THE CITY OF PALM BAY. NOTICE OF A VIOLATION, WHICH IS THE CIVIL CITATION THAT SENT TO THE REGISTERED OWNER FOR THE VIOLATION THAT WAS COMMITTED. ALL RIGHT. DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? IT DOES. OKAY. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? THE GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF ME. MR. NELSON HERE.
AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOR NINE, 20, 25 AT 4:31 P.M.. THE LOCATION IS SOUTH WEST MIDDLE SCHOOL, JUPITER BOULEVARD. ALL RIGHT. IS THAT IN THE SCHOOL ZONE? IT IS. OKAY. AND IS THAT IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY? YES. WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME? IS 20MPH. AND WHAT IS THIS VEHICLE SPEED? 34MPH.
ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU SCROLL TO THE LAST TWO PAGES IN THE DOCUMENT? AND HAS THE CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED? IT HAS. YES. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SUBJECT TO RECALL.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? I DO, OKAY.
SURE. SORRY. ONE SECOND. OKAY. MY FIRST THOUGHT.
SORRY. WE ALL CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. YEP. MY FIRST QUESTION IS WAS THERE A SCHOOL ON THE DATE OF MY TICKET? I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT. THERE WASN'T. THERE WASN'T? I ALSO SAID I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT HE HAS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE ISN'T OR WASN'T.
OH, SORRY. WHAT WAS THE ANSWER? YEAH, I'M NOT CERTAIN.
I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THERE WASN'T.
IF IT'S A COMPARISON. WELL, MAYBE YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE SCHOOL.
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I THINK. WELL, I GOT THIS CITATION A WHILE BACK.THAT'S WHY I, I THINK IT'S FAIR IF I'M GETTING CITED FOR A SCHOOL ZONE TICKET THAT I.
OH, NO, I HAVEN'T LOOKED INTO IT. THAT'S WHAT I FELT LIKE HERE TODAY IN THE HEARING, THAT IF I'M BEING CITED FOR SPEEDING IN A SCHOOL ZONE, THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW IF THERE WAS SCHOOL THAT DAY.
OKAY. ANYWAY. I'M NOT. I'M NOT SAYING THERE WAS OR WASN'T.
I'M JUST SAYING THIS. THIS HAPPENED SO LONG AGO.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE'S A PRESUMPTION THAT THE SCHOOL IS OPEN.
THAT'D BE EVIDENCE THAT I COULD USE. YEAH, I GOT YOU.
I GOT YOU, SIR, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, IF IF I'M BEING ACCUSED OF SOMETHING, THE ACCUSER SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL ME WHY I'M BEING FAIR. IF I GET PULLED OVER AND GET CITED BY A POLICE OFFICER, HE WOULD BE ABLE TO VERIFY IF I'M SPITTING IN A SCHOOL ZONE. BECAUSE ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S ON THIS PAPER.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT TOO, BUT SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION.
THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION. IS, IS THERE TIME STAMPS ON THAT ROAD? I'M NOT SURE. YOU HAVE TO BRING ME EVIDENCE THAT YOU BRING A PICTURE OF THE SIGN.
SO THERE'S NO TIME STAMPS. THEY HAVE PRESUMPTION FOR THEM.
THEY SHOULD BE PRIMA FACIE CASE THAT THEY. THAT THE SIGNS ARE UP THAT THEY'RE PROPER SIGNAGE.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT WE'RE NOT PROPER SIGNAGE UP.
OKAY, WELL, THE EVIDENCE I DO HAVE, SIR, IS THAT THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN ON PAUSE LATE FEBRUARY AND IS CURRENTLY SUSPENDED AS OF MAY 7TH AND WAS RESTARTED ON MARCH 31ST. SO BETWEEN MARCH 31ST AND MAY 7TH THERE HAS BEEN INACCURATE TICKETS.
DUE TO GLITCHES IN THE SYSTEM. YEAH. OKAY. AND MY IN MY TICKET IS 92ND. YES, SIR. YOUR TICKET WAS APRIL 9TH.
YES. APRIL 19TH. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE? I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I. THAT'S ALL I CAN PRESENT AT THIS TIME.
AND IT SAID THERE I WAS DOING DURING 34, IN A 20MPH IN THE SCHOOL ZONE.
THAT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT ROAD, IT'S LIKE 40MPH, SO.
YEAH. OH, SORRY. YEAH. SO I'M I'M I'M JUST I'M JUST KIND OF.
IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GIVE EVIDENCE ON THIS THAT YOU'RE SO LONG AGO, BUT I.
I HAVE NEVER GOTTEN A TICKET IN PALM BAY THAT I CAN REMEMBER, HONESTLY.
AND ON THAT REGULAR ON THAT ROAD, THE SPEED LIMIT, I BELIEVE, IS EITHER 35 OR IT'S 40.
I TAKE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY AND I GOT THREE TICKETS FROM EACH ONE OF MY VEHICLES ONE TIME.
AND BASED ON ALL THESE ARTICLES AND AND THINGS THAT I'M SEEING, THAT IT'S BEEN SUSPENDED FOR GLITCHES DURING THE TIME PERIOD WHERE I GOT THESE TICKETS. SO IT'S, IT'S A FAIR ASSUMPTION THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN ALL A GLITCH AT THE TIME.
OKAY. RESPECTFULLY. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EVIDENCE I COULD PRESENT?
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NO, SIR. OKAY. BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED, I'M GOING TO UPHOLD THE VIOLATION.I FIND THAT NOTICE 2030 8000 4826 0369 BE UPHELD THAT I ORDERED THAT THE FINE OF A PENALTY OF $100 BE PAID WITH ZERO ADMINISTRATION FEE.
THIS MAY NEGATIVELY IMPACT YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FEES.
THAT'S IT ON THIS CASE. GIVE ME A SECOND. I HAVE ONE.
ONE MORE QUESTION, SIR. SO DURING THIS CASE, IT'S IT'S MY DUTY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE ON MY REASONING OF NOT GETTING THE TICKET. BUT IF THE CITY IS CITING ME FOR SPEEDING IN A STREET IN A SCHOOL ZONE AND CAN'T PROVIDE DETAILS ACCURATELY SCHOOL ON THAT DAY, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT EVIDENCE AS WELL.
THE TEST, THE THE THE PACKAGE HAS IT ON. THE SCHOOL'S ON THE SCHOOL DATE.
THEY HAVE SHOWN ME, PRIMA FACIE THAT THAT IT WAS A THE SCHOOL DAY IN THE PACKAGE.
UNLESS THE CITY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING OR SAY THEY DO OR DON'T KNOW.
YEAH, OKAY. I CAN OFFER FURTHER TESTIMONY, YOUR HONOR.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THE THE DATE OF THE TICKET.
LIKE I SAID, THIS HAPPENED SO LONG AGO. THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS THIS I WASN'T EVEN IN THE STATE, SO I WASN'T EVEN DRIVING THE VEHICLE, SO. I MEAN, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHY I'M HERE TODAY.
BUT ALSO WITH, LIKE, THE TIME, THE TIME FRAME OF THE SCHOOL ZONE, I KNOW THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ENDS THAT ONE, SAY, 345. I'M NOT SURE IT'S 445. THE SCHOOL. OKAY.
I'M NOT SURE. SO IT'S IT'S ON. YOU TAKE IT. OKAY.
I'M GOING TO FIND UPHOLD THIS TICKET. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE.
CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4803 1795. NELSON COOPER REMAINS SWORN IN.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME. ONE SECOND.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. NELSON.
COMPARE 527 CASSANDRA AVENUE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA.
OKAY. CITY WHERE YOU PRESENT? YES, YOUR HONOR.
OFFICER, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO THE COURT, JEFF REARDON.
THANK YOU. AND WHAT IS THIS PACKET THAT WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF US? THE CITY OF PALM BAY. NOTICE OF CITY OF PALM BAY.
OKAY. AND ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CITATION THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THIS HEARING? YES. AND ARE YOU A RECORDS CUSTODIAN FOR THE CITY? AND YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE REGARDING THESE BUSINESS RECORDS? YES. AND ARE THEY KEPT IN THE USUAL COURSE OF BUSINESS FOR THE CITY? YES. ALL RIGHT. DOES THE DOES THE TAG MATCH THE VEHICLE? IT DOES. OKAY. AND WHO IS THE REGISTERED OWNER OF THE VEHICLE? GENTLEMAN STANDING IN FRONT OF ME. MR. NELSON HERE.
AND WHAT IS THE TIME, DATE AND LOCATION OF THE VIOLATION? THE DATE IS FOR EIGHT, 20, 25 AT 9:08 A.M.. AND THE LOCATION OF SOUTHWEST MIDDLE SCHOOL, JUPITER BOULEVARD.
EASTBOUND. AND IS THAT A SCHOOL ZONE? IT IS. AND IS IT IN THE CITY OF PALM BANK IT IS.
AND WHAT IS THE SPEED LIMIT ON THE ROAD AT THIS TIME? 20MPH. AND WHAT IS THIS VEHICLE SPEED? 35MPH.
RIGHT. AND COULD YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE PAGES OF THE DOCUMENT.
RIGHT HERE. AND HAS THIS CAMERA BEEN PROPERLY TESTED AND CERTIFIED.
IT HAS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS SUBJECT TO RECALL, YOUR HONOR.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY? NO. NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY.
OKAY. YOU WANT TO PRESENT YOUR CASE? YES, I DO.
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OKAY. WHAT? WHAT? THAT SAID MAY 10TH. WAS THAT MAY 10TH ON THE TICKET, SIR? THE TICKET WAS RECEIVED ON. THE FRONT. THAT'S APRIL 8TH, 2025 AT 9:08 P.M.. OKAY. IT'S THE SAME EXACT, SAME EXACT SPEED.SAME AS THAT PICTURE. SAME AS THAT. YEAH. EVERYTHING'S JUST A DIFFERENT CAR.
YEAH. DIFFERENT CAR? YES. THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. AS I STATED, I HAVE MULTIPLE TICKETS FROM.
SAME EXACT LOCATION. SAME EXACT SPEED. DOING 35.
SAYING I'M DOING 35. YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE THAT CAR RIGHT THERE IS TO ME DOING 35 MILES.
BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT. IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO FIGHT IT AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, I'M FIGHTING A PICTURE WITH A WITH THE SPEED.
AND I THINK I ASKED PRETTY FAIR QUESTIONS AND I DIDN'T REALLY GET GOOD RESPONSES, BUT IT'S FINE.
YOU SAID YOU RECEIVE A THIRD TICKET. CORRECT.
SO I JUST PAID THAT ONE. BUT ALL THREE TICKETS WERE THE SAME EXACT PICTURE.
DOING THE SAME EXACT SPEED. SAME EXACT SPOT. SAME EXACT SPOT.
AND I, I, I TAKE THIS ROAD EVERY SINGLE DAY. EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I EVEN KNOW NOW YOU KNOW THE SPEED LIMITS AND THE TIMES I, I DON'T LIKE.
I SAID I WAS WHEN I GOT THIS TICKET, I WAS IN FORT KNOX, KENTUCKY.
I'M HERE TODAY IN COURT, AND THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVEN LOOKING AT THESE PICTURES.
I ALREADY KNOW I WASN'T SPEEDING, BUT AS EVERYONE ELSE STATED, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO MATTER, SO. WELL, IT DIDN'T MATTER. SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU ALREADY PAY TWO.
YOU GOT ONE MONEY, YOU PAID THE OTHER ONE. YOU'RE SAME EXACT SPOT.
I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT. LISTEN TO ME. LISTEN TO ME. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SPEED ZONE IS NOW? OVER THERE FOR AFTER SCHOOL ZONES. WELL, YES OR NO? YES, I KNOW YOU KNOW THE TIMES THAT YOU NEED TO NOT SPEED ANYMORE.
NO, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, SIR. THAT'S THE. THAT'S THE QUESTION.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS ASKING, I DON'T EVEN I THOUGHT MIDDLE SCHOOL ENDS AT 345.
I WAS JUST TOLD FOR 30. THAT'S WHY THE QUESTION I ASKED WITH THE TIMES.
WITH THE TIMES IF THAT WAS THERE. BECAUSE I LIKE TO LISTEN TO MY QUESTIONS.
DO YOU THINK YOU LEARNED YOUR LESSON OF WHAT TIME AND WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS IN THAT SCHOOL ZONE, SINCE IT'S THE SAME EXACT SPOT THREE TIMES? I MEAN, YES OR NO? IT'S EASY QUESTION. I MEAN, IT'S NOT AS EASY AS PLEASE.
YES. YES, SIR. YES. YOU LEARN NOW THAT THAT'S A SCHOOL ZONE.
YOU KNOW THE POLICY. YOU KNOW THE SPEED LIMIT. YES. I DON'T KNOW THE TIME, SIR.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF THERE WAS A TIMES ON THERE.
BECAUSE THE LIGHTS. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY SPEED TICKETS SINCE THE LAST THREE? HAVE YOU GOT ANY MORE IN THAT AREA? THAT'S. THAT'S.
THAT'S WHY. OKAY. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I WAS IN KENTUCKY WHEN I GOT THESE TICKETS.
THESE TICKETS HAPPENED WAY PAST THE TIME I LEFT FOR FORT KNOX APRIL 21ST.
ONE MORE QUESTION. ONE MORE TIME. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO IT REALLY CLOSELY.
DO YOU THINK YOU LEARNED THE SPEED LIMIT AND THE TIME IT'S ENFORCED FROM YOUR THREE TICKETS? YES OR NO? NO, SIR. OKAY. THEN I'M GOING TO PULL THIS TICKET. BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED ON THE NOTICE NUMBER 2030 8000 4803 1795.
IS THAT THE CORRECT NUMBER? NINE FIVE. YES. OKAY, I'M GOING TO PULL THE TICKET.
IT FINDS $100 ZERO ADMINISTRATION FEE PAYABLE WITHIN 30 DAYS.
SO YOU PAY FOR RESULTS AND IMPACT ON YOUR CREDIT SCORE AND ADDITIONAL FEES.
DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I CAN I KNOW THE TIME LIMITS OF OF THIS ZONE? I DO NOT KNOW THE TIME ZONES TIMES WHERE I'M ISSUING THESE TICKETS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THE 20MPH IS. I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
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YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SIGNS. THAT'S WHAT I'M.SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. AND I'M ASKING A GENUINE QUESTION ON THE TIMES.
YOU HAVE TO INVESTIGATE THIS LITTLE. OKAY. SURE.
WE COULD HAVE. WE COULD HAVE EXPLORED THAT ISSUE FOR SURE.
OKAY. NEXT CASE. WHAT HAVE WE GOT? NEXT CASE WILL BE FOR DAVID BARLOW.
IT'S CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 5022 7410. NOT PRESENT.
OKAY. HOW MANY CASES ARE NOT PRESENT? TWO. FOUR, SIR. OKAY, LET'S CALL THEM ALL AT ONCE.
YES, SIR. I'LL START OVER AGAIN JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE THEM ALL THE SAME CASE HEARING OR.
I'M SORRY. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4022 7410 DAVID BARLOW.
NEXT CASE IS 0473 279 823. CRYSTAL GREEN. CASE NUMBER 2030 8000 4717 5524. TORI MAZUR AND CASE 2030 8000 4788 6409. STEVEN TREVINO OKAY, NO SUBJECTS ARE PRESENT. I'M GOING TO MOVE ALL THE EVIDENCE PACKAGES INTO EVIDENCE ON THESE CASES.
AND FIND THAT ON EACH INDIVIDUAL CASE. CASE NUMBER.
THAT THAT BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE PRESENTED AND REVIEWED.
AND THAT FAILURE TO PAY WILL IMPACT NEGATIVELY.
THAT MAY IMPACT NEGATIVELY ON THEIR CREDIT SCORE AND MAY RESULT IN ADDITIONAL FINES.
OKAY. SO WE'LL JUST THAT'S EVERY CASE FINDING AND THAT'S BASED UPON THE EVIDENCE PACKAGE PRESENTED.
OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED DO. OKAY.
THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.