[00:00:02] I LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARINGS OF AUGUST 20TH, 2025. [CALL TO ORDER] MY NAME IS JAMES BEADLE. I'M THE PERSON THAT WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER APPLICATIONS FOR REDUCTIONS IN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS. THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS, IS THAT THE APPLICANT WILL COME UP TO THE PODIUM, IDENTIFY THEMSELVES, AND THEN PRESENT THE EVIDENCE THEY WISH FOR ME TO CONSIDER FOR PURPOSES OF DECIDING WHETHER OR WHETHER AND HOW MUCH THE REDUCTION SHOULD BE. THE CITY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, AND THEN THE APPLICANT WILL BE ABLE TO COMMENT ABOUT WHAT THE CITY'S RESPONSE IS. AND THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL PROCESS. THE CLERK IS GOING TO SWEAR IN ANYONE THAT'S GOING TO TESTIFY BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE UNDER OATH. [SWEARING IN] SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE CLERK. IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE TESTIMONY, CAN YOU PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND? DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH, SO HELP YOU GOD? THANK YOU. MAY BE SEATED. OUR FIRST CASE TO BE HEARD TODAY IS KEBBI 2505424 AT 2572 HOWRAH HILL ROAD NORTHEAST. [PETITION FOR RELIEF] OKAY. YES, SIR. MY MOM HAS. WHO ARE YOU? MARY WALKER'S SON. AND WHAT'S YOUR NAME? RAY WALKER. OKAY. MY MOM, SHE HAS DEMENTIA. AND, LIKE, I WASN'T STAYING WITH MY MOM, AND I SEEN THE THE FINE ON HER. ON HER. THE THE THE THE CITY CENTER. FINE ON MY MOM'S HOUSE FOR MOLD. AND I SEEN IT, AND I I HAD MY MOM CLEAN IT. I GOT SOMEBODY TO CLEAN IT UP. AND, LIKE, SHE DIDN'T SHE DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN THAT WAS ON HER BECAUSE SHE HAS DEMENTIA. AND, LIKE, SHE WENT TO THE HOSPITAL AND ALL, AND THEY THEY SAID IT WAS DEMENTIA AND LIKE I WAS WONDERING, IS IT ANY WAY I CAN GET IT REDUCED TO TO TO WHAT, A LOWER FINE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL FIND OUT. AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S POSITION IS, SO WE'LL HEAR THAT AND WE'LL GO FROM THERE. VALERIE STURGIS, CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER. THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REDUCTION OF THE LIENS. WE UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES REGARDING THE SITUATION ON THE ALMOST $8,000 LIEN. THEREFORE, THE CITY AT THIS TIME IS ONLY ASKING FOR THE $750 ADMINISTRATION FEE, ALONG WITH 2% OF THE $7,998.91. AND I CAN GET YOU A TOTAL HERE IN A QUICK SECOND. BASICALLY $160. OKAY, SO IT'S 800 AND SOMETHING. IT WOULD BE $910. THANK YOU. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? THANK YOU SIR. IS THAT A YES? YES. OKAY. THEN I'LL ENTER. IN ORDER TO THAT EFFECT. AND THE THE CITY WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. HAVE A GOOD DAY. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM? MR. BEEDLE, COULD YOU PLEASE COME BACK UP? NORMALLY, THESE HAVE TO BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS. IS THAT A PROBLEM? COULD IT BE FOUR MONTHS? WE NORMALLY DON'T GO THAT FAR OUT. I CAN DO 90 DAYS. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GOOD. OKAY. HAVE A GOOD DAY. HE'S GOING TO STAY. HE'S GOING TO STAY. I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM ALL THE PAPERWORK AFTER. OH, OKAY. I'LL GO TO THE OFFICE. YOU CAN GO TO THE OFFICE. THAT'S FINE. I'LL MEET YOU THERE. OUR NEXT CASE IS CB 2536124 AND 2556725. AT 630 CROWBOROUGH ROAD, NORTHEAST. HI, I'M TIM LEWIS. I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS KIM LEWIS. KIM LEWIS. YES. AND WHO ARE YOU IN RELATION TO THE OWNER? I'M AN AGENT ON BEHALF OF THE OWNER. AND WHAT? I MEAN, AGENT HOWE. I MEAN, ARE YOU A PROPERTY MANAGER OR. YES. YES, SIR. PROPERTY AREA MANAGER FOR THE TERRITORY. YES, SIR. OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS HOME AND THIS RESIDENT, WE'VE KIND OF HAD SOME ISSUES, [00:05:04] INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR. I THINK WE'RE CLOSER TO THE LIGHT DOWN THE TUNNEL. SO I HAD A CORPORATE OFFICE. THEY SENT ME TO SEE IF YOU GUYS MIGHT CONSIDER AN AGREEABLE SETTLEMENT AMOUNT OF 2500 FOR THE LIENS THAT'S BEEN ASSESSED TOWARDS THE HOME. I HAVE NO IDEA. THAT'S UP TO THE CITY. VALERIE STURGIS, CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION. MANOR. THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REPRESENTATIVE'S OFFER. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND AS I INDICATED TO THE PRIOR APPLICANT, IT'S NORMALLY TO BE PAID WITHIN 30 DAYS. IS THAT AN ISSUE? I'M GOING TO SEND THEM THAT INFORMATION TODAY SO THAT IT JUST COMES FROM TEXAS. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE'S NO PROBLEM IN 30 DAYS. OKAY. OKAY. I'LL ENTER IN ORDER TO THAT EFFECT. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. HAVE A GREAT DAY. OUR NEXT CASE IS CB 2573825 AT 1637 BELLUM ROAD SOUTHEAST. YOUR HONOR. JASON CASEY TROPHY. OKAY. YOU SAID CASEY. JASON. JASON. OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE A STATEMENT? THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO MY PROPERTY BEING FOUND OUT OF CODE. THE DELAYS AND VIOLATIONS IN MY HOME CONSTRUCTION ARE A RESULT OF AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT SITUATION. FOUR YEARS AGO, I WAS ONE OF THE MANY VICTIMS BY A COMPANY CALLED STILL EX HOMES. OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THIS COMPANY HAS CHANGED ITS NAME THREE SEPARATE TIMES. EACH TIME, THEY'RE STARTING WORK UNDER A NEW IDENTITY AND LEAVING A TRAIL OF INCOMPLETE PROJECTS AND BROKEN PROMISES. THIS WAS NOT JUST A CASE OF POOR BUSINESS. IT WAS A DELIBERATE FRAUD. NUMEROUS HOMEOWNERS, INCLUDING MYSELF, HAVE COME FORWARD WITH SIMILAR EXPERIENCES. SEVERAL LAWSUITS HAVE BEEN FILED AGAINST THIS COMPANY, AND SOME FAMILIES HAVE LOST THEIR ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS. MY FAMILY IS HOMELESS AT ONE TIME BECAUSE OF THIS. BECAUSE THE DATA WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO MOVE IN. WE WERE UNABLE TO. STILL, X REPEATEDLY MISREPRESENTED THEIR INTENTIONS. THEY ASSURED ME ISSUES SUCH AS THE OVERFLOWING DUMPSTER AND THE DAMAGED SILT FENCE WOULD BE HAND, AND THE CLEANUP WOULD BE HANDLED PROPERLY AND PROMPTLY. AT NO POINT, NO POINT DID THE INFORMING THAT THE PROPERTY WAS IN VIOLATION OF CODE. I RELIED ON THEIR EXPERTISE AND ASSURANCE, NOT KNOWING THAT THEIR BUSINESS PRACTICES WERE BOTH DISHONEST AND DECEPTIVE. I HAD TO FOUND OUT EVENTUALLY THAT THE NOTICES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SENDING WERE GOING TO AN OLD ADDRESSING KISSIMMEE AS WELL. WHEN I DID LEARN OUT ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS, I MYSELF TOOK IMMEDIATE STEPS TO CORRECT THEM. I WENT OUT THERE. I FIXED THE FENCES MYSELF. I MADE SURE EVERYTHING WAS MOWED DOWN. I REMOVED THE DUMPSTER. AND GOT THAT ALL HANDLED. I THEN CONTACTED PALM BAY PERMIT OFFICE BECAUSE I WAS UNAWARE THAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO CONTACT CODE ENFORCEMENT. I SPOKE WITH THE INSPECTOR NAMED MYRA ON JUNE 10TH. TO REPORT THE CORRECTIONS. ONCE AGAIN, NOT REALIZING THAT I SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND THIS IS THE REASON WHY THE FINES REACHED THE AMOUNT THEY WERE TODAY? BECAUSE IT WAS $50, I GUESS, A DAY. CONTINUING ON. YOUR HONOR, THIS WAS A GENUINE MISTAKE AND NOT AN ATTEMPT TO AVOID RESPONSIBILITY. SINCE THAT TIME, I HAVE TAKEN MUCH MORE HANDS ON ROLE OVERSEEING THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR HOME. UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO THESE ACTIONS OF THE PRIOR CONTRACTORS, WE ARE ALREADY FAR OVER BUDGET. THE FINANCIAL DAMAGE CAUSED BY OVERPRICING, THE ABANDONMENT OF THE JOB HAS PUT AN ENORMOUS STRAIN ON ME AND MY FAMILY, AND ADDING IN ADDITIONAL FINE AND LIENS WOULD CREATE A SERIOUS UNDUE HARDSHIP. WE DID GET ALL THE PERMITS RESET, AND WE HAD TO GO BACK THROUGH THE MORTGAGE AND GET A NEW CONTRACTOR TO FINISH THE PROJECT. ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE MY WORD THAT I'M GOING TO BE EYES ON UNTIL WE GET IT DONE. ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO AVOID ANY ACCOUNTABILITY. I JUST ASKED THE COURT TO CONSIDER THE FULL CONTEXT OF WHAT HAPPENED. HOW WE WERE MISLED AND THE STEPS I'VE TAKEN TO BRING THE PROJECT BACK IN COMPLIANCE. AND I REMAIN FULLY COMMITTED TO COMPLETING THE HOME PROPERLY WITHIN THE LAW. I DO HAVE SOME. TEXT MESSAGES WITH THE PERMIT OFFICE AS WELL. OKAY. LET ME HEAR WHAT THE CITY HAS TO SAY. I'LL GO BACK. OKAY. THANK YOU. VALERIE STURGIS, CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION. WHEN DID YOU UPDATE THE BREVARD COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISERS OFFICE WITH THE CORRECTED ADDRESS? [00:10:02] I DID THAT ONLINE. I BELIEVE IT WAS BACK IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. YEAH. OKAY, SO IT WAS SOME TIME AGO. OKAY. BECAUSE BACK WHEN IT WAS PULLED IN JANUARY, IT STILL REFLECTED THE SARASOTA ADDRESS. AND. OKAY, SO IN APRIL, YOU CHANGED IT. OKAY. AND I SHOWED UP AND I SEEN THEM POSTED ON THERE ABOUT THEM, YOU KNOW, READY TO BREAK THE BUILDING DOWN. SO THE CITY HAS NO OBJECTION IN A REDUCTION OF THIS LIEN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE TO BE COLLECTED THAT ARE $750. WE'RE ASKING FOR 15% OF THE $5,650, AND $0.23 COMES OUT TO $847.53. PLUS, THE 750 COMES OUT TO A TOTAL OF $1,597.53. OKAY. DOES HE HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER? NO, SIR. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES YOU SAID WERE $700 AND THEN 15% OF THE 5750 ADMIN FEES AND THEN 15% OF THE ACTUAL LIEN AMOUNT. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THE CITY IS ASKING FOR. RIGHT. RIGHT. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M BACK TO THE MAGISTRATE TO REVIEW. UNDERSTOOD. I WILL TELL YOU THAT AS A GENERAL PREMISE, AND I CAN ONLY THINK OF MAYBE 1 OR 2 TIMES THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES HAVE NOT BEEN AWARDED OR KEPT IN PLACE. BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT THAT DOES IS IT COVERS STAFF TIME FROM THE TIME THEY START THE CODE PROCESS THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD HERE, OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING. SO THAT'S STAFF TIME FOR DOING ALL THAT. UNDERSTOOD. SO AS A GENERAL PROPOSITION, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO BELOW THAT. I JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER WHETHER AND HOW MUCH OF THE EXTRA THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. BUT I'M WE'LL SAY ONE MORE THING. LIKE I SAID, ME KIND OF BEING A DUMMY ABOUT IT AND NOT CONTACTING YOU GUYS, I BELIEVE AT THE TIME THE FEES WERE ACCUMULATED TO LIKE $600. WHEN I CONTACTED THEM, AND THIS WAS JUNE 10TH, WHEN I ACTUALLY LET THEM KNOW THAT, HEY, IT'S ALL TAKEN CARE OF. GO BY AND CHECK IT OUT. MAKE SURE I'M NOT. I'M BACK IN COMPLIANCE THINKING THAT SHE WAS AN INSPECTOR FOR YOU GUYS, SO. WELL, NOT FOR ME, BUT FOR THEM. I'M JUST. I'M JUST. I'M JUST A AN APPOINTED PERSON. I'M NOT IN THE DEPARTMENT, SO. OH, OKAY. SO SO. OKAY. AND DID YOU HAVE AN EMAIL YOU SAID FROM WHEN YOU CONTACTED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO LET THEM KNOW THAT I HAD A I HAD A TEXT OR TEXT. CAN I SEE THAT? THEY'RE STILL NOT FILLING IT OUT. CHRIS DOESN'T PUT ANYTHING ON IT. SO HOW DO WE STOP THERE? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LOT LESS, BUT. OKAY. IN YOUR TESTIMONY, THAT WAS DONE ON THE 10TH. OKAY. WHY DIDN'T MYRA TELL US? WELL, THAT'S HOW YOU BETTER. KNOW? BECAUSE TECHNICALLY, I'M GOING TO REDUCE THE FINE TO $1,000. BASED ON ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED. AGAIN, AS I INDICATED TO THE PRIOR PERSON, IS 30 DAYS SUFFICIENT TIME FOR YOU TO PAY THE $1,000? YEAH, I'LL MAKE IT. OKAY. THEN THERE WILL BE AN ORDER ENTERED TO THAT EFFECT AND THE CITY WILL GET IT TO YOU. OKAY, GOOD. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. I'LL GET INFORMATION ON THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OUR LAST CASE FOR TODAY IS CB 2287722 AT 294 EVANS ROAD NORTHEAST. HI, SIR. HELLO. I'M BRANDI SMITH LOCKMAN. I'M THE OWNER OF 294 AVON ROAD. YES, MA'AM. I AM NOT A STRANGER TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. ISSUES AND COMPLIANCES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. MY HUSBAND IS KNOWN TO BE A PACK RAT, AND HAS A TENDENCY OF UNSIGHTLY MESS. AND ON OCCASIONS, I'VE EVEN CALLED ON HIMSELF TO TO ALLEVIATE SOME FIGHTS ALONG THE WAY. [00:15:06] BUT WE DO HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO BEHIND, KIND OF DIAGONALLY BEHIND US, WHO DOES NOT LIKE ME. AND I'VE HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITH THIS PERSON FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, EVEN BEFORE I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, APPARENTLY. BUT BASICALLY, IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES WE RECEIVED A LETTER IN THE MAIL ABOUT A FENCE. NOT PERMITTED. UNSIGHTLY MESS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE THINGS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN A GARAGE THAT HE WOULD PULL OUT AND WORK ON AND, YOU KNOW, AND TAKE CARE OF. AND HE HAD AN OLD MUD TRUCK THAT HE HAD PARKED IN THE BACK. AND WHEN OUR NEW BRAND NEW NEIGHBOR WHO JUST MOVED IN, BUILT THE HOUSE, HE ASKED US IF HE COULD PUT UP A NEW PRIVACY FENCE, AND WE ASKED HIM LIKE, HEY, WE DON'T MIND, YOU DO. SO I SAY, BUT WE HAVE DOGS AND STUFF THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT EXPOSED TO THAT YARD BECAUSE HE HAD HIS OLD MUD TRUCK OUT THERE, WHICH RAN, BY THE WAY, IT DROVE OUT THERE AND IT LEFT ON ITS OWN ACCORD ON POWER. AND HE SAID THAT, YES, THAT THEY WOULD DO THAT. HE TORE DOWN THE FENCE AND IT TOOK HIM SOME TIME TO GET IT PUT BACK UP. IN THE MEANTIME, I HAD DOGS. I HAD MY MOM, WHO'S HAD HEART PROBLEMS AND ENDED UP HAVING A TRIPLE BYPASS SURGERY ABOUT THE SAME TIME ALSO. AND I KIND OF HANDED ME MY HUSBAND ARE DIVORCED NOW, BUT I KIND OF LET IT WITH HIM TO TAKE CARE OF AND LET ME KNOW WHEN IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND EVERYTHING WAS OKAY, AND I CALLED AND TALKED TO MR. SOTO NUMEROUS OCCASIONS. I SAY AT LEAST FOUR TO ME. AND THE LAST TIME I ASKED THEM BECAUSE I RECEIVED ANOTHER NOTICE IN THE MAIL AND I SAID, HEY, I THOUGHT THIS WAS CLEARED UP. HE'S LIKE, OH YES, I'M CLOSING IT OUT NOW. AND BASICALLY I NEVER RECEIVED ANY NOTICE SINCE THEN. IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. WAY BACK WHEN? IN 2022. BUT I HAD NO IDEA AT ALL ABOUT ANY OF THIS STUFF UNTIL RECENTLY WHEN WE TRIED TO GET A SWITCH UP SWITCH OUR PROPERTY OVER TO A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, TRUST. BUT BASICALLY THE WHOLE SITUATION WAS, I THINK, A LACK OF COMMUNICATION BECAUSE I'VE CALLED HIM MULTIPLE TIMES AND HE TOLD ME THAT IT WAS OKAY, GOOD. THE NEIGHBOR'S PRIVACY FENCE IS WHAT THEY WERE FIGHTING ME FOR. THAT WASN'T EVEN MY DOING. THAT WASN'T EVEN MY THING. HE PULLED A PERMIT ON IT. THE ONLY THING THAT ON THE LAST DATE THAT THEY CAME BY TO CHECK ON THE HOUSE WAS A DUMP TRAILER, WHICH I DID TELL MR. SOTO ABOUT THAT AT THE TIME. AND HE HE ASSURED ME THAT HE SAW THAT WE'VE BEEN FILLING IT UP WITH TRASH FROM THE HOUSE AND AROUND THE PROPERTY, AND HE SAID THAT AS LONG AS IT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE DUMPING IT ON THAT SATURDAY, HE SAID AS LONG AS IT WAS DUMPED AND GONE, THAT HE WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT IT. IN THIS DUMP TRAILER, I WILL MIND YOU, HAS BEEN IN BACK AND FORTH TO MY PROPERTY LOTS OF TIMES AND BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE FLOORING AND REDOING THE HOUSE. AND THEN BACK IN 2023, I ACTUALLY LET MY NEPHEW RENT THE HOUSE AND I HAD TO KICK HIM OUT IN OCTOBER 2023 BECAUSE OF THE NASTINESS HE HAD AROUND THE HOUSE AND OUTSIDE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN TROUBLE WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT AGAIN. SO AND NOW I'M HERE TODAY AS A SINGLE MOM, NOT EVEN ABLE TO AFFORD MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT, AND TRYING TO FIND OUT IF YOU GUYS CAN HELP ME OUT WITH ANYTHING TO ALLEVIATE THIS LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. BECAUSE IF YOU EVEN LOOK AT THE PICTURES, THEY'RE NOT EVEN IT'S NOT REALLY UNSIGHTLY. I HAVE A DOG KENNEL AND CHAIRS IN THE FRONT. AND A DUMP TRAILER, WHICH SHE KNEW ABOUT, WHICH WASN'T EVEN A EVEN PART OF THE ORIGINAL ISSUE. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, AND THE FENCE WAS NOT OURS. YOU CAN TELL THAT IT WAS BEING BUILT BY THE NEIGHBOR ON THESE PICTURES. AND SO IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RESOLVED WAY BACK IN JULY, JULY OF 2022. AND YOU GUYS DON'T SEND LETTERS TELLING YOU THAT IT'S CLOSED. AND SO I TOOK HIS WORD BY IT AND I, I EVEN BECAUSE OF THE MESSAGE THAT WAS LEFT BY THE TENANT THAT I WAS SCOURING MY MAILBOX LOOKING FOR ANY LETTERS FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT. BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE REALLY GOOD TO TELL ME THAT MY HUSBAND OR THAT THERE WAS A MESS BECAUSE THAT NEIGHBOR OF MINE, AS SOON AS THERE WAS A MESS, SHE'LL CALL UP. SHE'S THE SAME PERSON THAT WOULD CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE I HAD A BIRD THAT SQUAWKED IN THE BACK PORCH. SHE WOULD CALL THE POLICE BECAUSE THE LIGHT WAS SECURITY. LIGHT WAS PUT ON. I MEAN, SHE WAS BEEN NOT BEEN THE BEST NEIGHBOR. AND SO HERE I AM TODAY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. I MEAN, I'M, I'M SURE THAT YOU'VE READ THE DOCUMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT ALREADY. [00:20:01] WELL, LET ME TELL YOU A COUPLE OF THINGS ABOUT YOUR PRESENTATION. I DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO GO BACK AND REVISIT. I KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THESE VIOLATIONS EXISTED BECAUSE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE FOUND THEM TO EXIST. SO DID YOU APPEAR AT THE HEARING? I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT. I, I HAD TALKED TO MR. SOTO BEFORE THE HEARING EVEN TOOK PLACE, AND I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION I HEARD THAT CONVERSATION, THAT IT WAS CLOSED OUT AND THAT THERE WAS NO NEED FOR ME TO ATTEND THE HEARING. AND I'VE BEEN AND I HAVE LIKE I SAID, I'VE NEVER HAD TO DOUBT CODE ENFORCEMENT BEFORE. WE HAVE THEY WERE THE. ACTUALLY, ARLENE. I DON'T KNOW IF ARLENE STILL WORKS THERE, BUT ARLENE WAS THE ONE WHO TOLD MY HUSBAND TO PARK THIS HIS RECREATIONAL MUD TRUCK, WHICH IS UGLY, I WILL ADMIT, IN THE BACKYARD. SO WE QUIT GETTING CALLS ON IT FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING OUT ALMOST. IT SEEMED LIKE A SIX EVERY SIX MONTHS. I MEAN, THE FENCE, I MEAN, AND I EVEN TOLD MR. SOTO AGAIN, I CAN'T, I CAN'T, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE FENCE OTHER THAN WHAT'S IN HERE. AND IT SAYS THAT YOU DIDN'T OBTAIN WHATEVER APPROVAL YOU NEEDED. BUT SO AGAIN, I CAN'T GO BEYOND I CANNOT GO BEHIND WHAT'S IN HERE. THIS DECISION IS ALREADY MADE. SO THEY FOUND YOU TO BE IN VIOLATION OF THAT. BUT MR. SOTO KNEW IT WASN'T MY FRIEND. AGAIN, YOU'RE ARGUING WITH ME ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER. SORRY. THIS IS. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE MADE A FINDING OF FACT IF AS A PREDICATE TO ENTERING HIS ORDER. I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND TELL HIM HE WAS WRONG. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT AUTHORITY, BUT YOU CAN TELL BY EVEN LOOKING AT THE PICTURES THAT IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS. I CAN'T TELL ANYTHING BY LOOKING AT THESE PICTURES. OKAY. ON THE PICTURE OF THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE OF THE UNSIGHTLY TRUCK. YOU CAN TELL THAT HE TOOK IT FROM THE BACK YARD OF THE NEIGHBOR BEHIND HIS DIAGONALLY. AND YOU CAN TELL THAT THERE'S A FENCE POST OF THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THE FENCE POST GOING ACROSS THE OTHER WAY. I CAN SEE FENCE POSTS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR PROPERTY LINE IS. WELL, IN THE BACKYARD. LET'S SEE THESE FENCE POSTS HERE. AGAIN, I SEE THE FENCE POSTS. I DON'T SEE ANY SURVEY MARKERS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING. I DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO LOOK AT THIS PICTURE AND MAKE ANY DETERMINATION WHERE THESE FENCE POSTS ARE IN RELATION TO ANYTHING. WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE FENCE POSTS. SEE HERE, THIS PICTURE. HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT HE'S BUILDING A FENCE AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE FENCE IT AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE FENCE IT IS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE. THE FENCE. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. WHEN? WHEN SOMEBODY COMES AND HAS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION WHERE A PROPERTY LINE IS. THE ONLY THING THAT ANYBODY RELIES ON IS A SURVEY. I DON'T HAVE A SURVEY, NUMBER ONE, TO TELL ME THAT THESE FENCE POSTS ARE ON ANYBODY'S PROPERTY. ALL I KNOW IS THESE FENCE POSTS EXIST. THAT'S ALL I KNOW. I DO HAVE A SURVEY AT HOME I DIDN'T KNOW. I DON'T NEED IT. AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MATTER. THAT'S WHAT I KEEP TRYING TO TELL YOU. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MADE A FINDING THAT THOSE ARE YOUR FENCE POSTS. I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT. THAT ORDER WAS ENTERED TWO YEARS AGO OR THREE YEARS AGO, WHATEVER IT WAS. SO I CAN'T GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT. YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT WHENEVER THIS ORDER WAS ENTERED, BUT I CAN'T GO BACK THREE YEARS LATER AND TELL THEM THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S THERE, BUT I CAN'T. NO, YOU KEEP ARGUING WITH ME. I CAN'T GO BACK AND REVISIT IT. WE NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT THE FENCE POSTS. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DO THAT. I'VE SAID THAT FIVE TIMES. PROBABLY. AND YOU KEEP WANTING TO ARGUE WITH ME. I'M DONE TALKING ABOUT THE FENCE POSTS. I DON'T HAVE ANY ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE FENCE POSTS. THE ORDERS ALREADY ENTERED. I CAN'T GO BACK AND TELL HIM HE WAS WRONG. THAT WAS YOUR OPPORTUNITY BACK OR WHOEVER'S OPPORTUNITY WAS YOU SAID YOU GOT NOTICE OF. YOU RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE VIOLATION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. MR. SOTO HAS AN AFFIDAVIT IN THE IN THIS PACKAGE THAT WAS DATED A COUPLE OF THREE WEEKS AFTER THE HEARING, AND SO THAT IT WAS STILL IN VIOLATION. SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONVERSATIONS YOU HAD IN RELATION TO THE DOCUMENTS THAT ARE IN THE FILE. HE FILED AN AFFIDAVIT. I GUESS ABOUT TWO WEEKS AFTER THE TWO AND A HALF WEEKS AFTER THE HEARING, SAYING THE PROPERTY WAS NOT IN COMPLIANCE. SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S ON FIRST, SO TO SPEAK. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU. [00:25:03] I'M NOT NOT NOT TO ARGUE ABOUT ANYTHING, BUT THE NEIGHBOR DID PULL A PERMIT. A NEW PERMIT, NOT MY PERMIT FOR THE EXISTING FENCE. BUT HE TOLD ME, MA'AM, I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FENCE ANYMORE, OKAY? WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FENCE ANYMORE. OKAY. SO YOU ALSO INDICATED EARLIER THAT THE TRAILER WAS OUT THERE FOR OVER THE WEEKEND, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE. AND IT MOVED AFTER THAT? YES. THAT TRAILER. AND THEN LET ME FINISH. WHEN WHEN WHEN WAS THAT IN RELATION TO THIS UNDERLYING CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION? THE ORIGINAL THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS THAT CAME IN. DID NOT MENTION A TRAILER BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER A TRAILER THERE. THAT TRAILER SHOWED UP AFTER EVERYTHING WHILE WE WERE CLEANING UP STUFF AT THE HOUSE AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING WAS IN WITHIN CODE. THEN MY NEW NEIGHBOR, JUST SO YOU KNOW, MY NEW NEIGHBOR HE PUT HOUSEHOLD TRASH IN OUR DUMP TRAILER WITHOUT US KNOWING IT, AND WE WENT TO GO MOVE IT. AND THE WE FOUND HOUSEHOLD TRASH, AND YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT TO THE DUMP. SO WE HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER WEEKEND FOR HIM TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF SO I COULD TAKE IT TO THE DUMP. BUT I'M ASKING, WHEN WAS THAT IN RELATION TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCEEDINGS? IT SHOWED UP SOMEWHERE AROUND I WANT TO SAY PROBABLY SOMEWHERE AROUND JUNE 2022. IT WAS AFTER, WELL, THE STATEMENT OF VIOLATION. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE STATEMENT OF VIOLATION THAT WAS ISSUED ON APRIL THE 12TH THAT TALKS ABOUT VIOLATIONS OBSERVED ON APRIL 11TH, APRIL 11TH OF 2022. SIR? YEAH. OKAY. AND THE THE TRAILER SHOWING UP IN THE PHOTOGRAPH. SO I DON'T I DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THE DATA. BECAUSE THAT TRAILER HAS COME AND GONE MULTIPLE TIMES. I MEAN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE REMODELING, REDOING THE HOUSE. SO THAT TRAILER WOULD BE THERE FOR A FEW DAYS, AND THEN IT WOULD GO TO THE DUMP ON A SATURDAY, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT I WAS ABLE TO DRIVE IT. I ONLY HAD MY TRUCK BROKE DOWN NOW, BUT THAT TRAILER WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT THAT TRUCK WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT COULD PULL THAT TRAILER. AND I WORK. I DON'T WANT TO GET HOME UNTIL 7:00 AT NIGHT. OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION REGARDING THIS? VALERIE STURGIS, CODE COMPLIANCE DIVISION MANAGER. THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION TO A REDUCTION OF THIS LEAN WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ARE COLLECTED, WHICH ARE $750. THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THIS LIEN IS $56,430.07. THE CITY IS REQUESTING FIVE. I'M SORRY, 10%, WHICH COMES OUT TO $5,643.07 WITH THE ADDITIONAL $750 ADMINISTRATIVE FEES. THE TOTAL IS $6,393.07. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN GET IT A LITTLE LOWER? BECAUSE HE HAS TO REVIEW IT? AND THE MAINTENANCE, EVEN FOR MY MORTGAGE PAYMENT, I'M LIKE, LITERALLY GOT $50 IN MY BANK ACCOUNT AND I HAVEN'T EVEN PAID MY WATER BILL OR ELECTRICITY. [00:30:37] MY CONCERN IN PART IS, I MEAN, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO LOWER IT BELOW WHAT THE CITY IS ASKING FOR. BUT PART OF MY PART OF MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT SOME OF YOUR TESTIMONY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PAPERWORK THAT'S IN THE FILE. WHEN YOU WERE TALKING TO MR. SOTO, DID YOU GET ANY CONFIRMATION IN WRITING ABOUT ANY OF THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU INDICATED YOU HAD WITH HIM? NO, IT WAS OVER A PHONE CALL. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN HANDLED OVER A PHONE CALL WITH THEM. FOR ME HE HAD. HE TALKED TO CELL PHONE. TO CELL PHONE. I MEAN, HE PERSONALLY HAD HEARD THE TRUCK RUN. AND AGAIN. YEAH. SORRY, SIR. NOT NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND REVISIT WHAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MADE A FINDING ABOUT. I WANT TO REDUCE THE FINES OF $3,500. THANK YOU SIR. WHEN DO I HAVE TO HAVE IT PAID BY? BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. THE LONGEST. THE LONGEST WE'VE EVER ALLOWED IT IS 90 DAYS. SO THAT'S WHAT I'LL GIVE YOU 90 DAYS. IF YOU CAN'T MAKE IT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, YOU NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE EXPIRATION OF THE 90 DAYS THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE ORDER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S IT THEN. LIKE I INDICATED BEFORE, THERE WILL BE AN ORDER ENTERED. IT'LL BE FORWARDED THE CODE COMPLIANCE AND THEN THEY'LL FORWARD IT TO YOU. OKAY. SO YOU SEND IT TO ME BY EMAIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND I SIGNED THE MINUTES TO THE LAST MEETING, AND THE MEETING'S ADJOURNED AT 137. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.