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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD REGULAR MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2025 IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER.

[CALL TO ORDER:]

PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES. MR. FILIBERTO, WOULD YOU PLEASE LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WE GOT FIVE. MR. POWELL, THE ROLL, PLEASE. YES.

MR.. KARAFFA HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED. MR. WARNER HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED.

MR.. FILIBERTO HERE, MR. HIGGINS HERE. MISS JORDAN PRESENT.

MR. MCNALLY HERE. MR. NORRIS, PRESENT. SCHOOL BOARD APPOINTEE POSITION IS STILL VACANT.

AND PATRICIA SMITH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, IS PRESENT.

WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU. BOARD. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING?

[ADOPTION OF MINUTES:]

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING FROM AUGUST 6TH, 2025.

SECOND MOTION SECOND. ALL AGREED? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. OKAY. MOTION CARRIES. FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE APPLICANTS IN THE AUDIENCE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE

[ANNOUNCEMENTS:]

COMPOSED OF UNPAID VOLUNTEERS. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT STAFF WILL PRESENT THE STAFF REPORT FOR EACH CASE.

BOARD MEMBERS WILL THEN BE ASKED IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THE APPLICANT OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WILL THEN BE ASKED TO APPROACH THE PODIUM AND PRESENT ANY INFORMATION GERMANE TO THE CASE AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.

THE FLOOR WILL THEN BE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WE WILL FIRST HEAR THOSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE APPLICATION, THEN THOSE OPPOSED TO THE APPLICATION FOR ALL PROCEEDINGS.

ALL APPLICANTS AND SPEAKERS FROM THE AUDIENCE MUST SIGN THE SPEAKER OATH CARD, LOCATED AT THE SIDE OF THE ROOM AND AT THE PODIUM.

PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY INTO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD.

AS A COURTESY, I ASK THAT IF THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO HAVE SIMILAR COMMENTS, YOU INFORMALLY APPOINT A SPOKESMAN TO CLARIFY YOUR VIEWS.

AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL BRING THE CASE BACK TO THE BOARD.

AT THIS TIME THE FLOOR WILL BE CLOSED AND NO MORE FURTHER COMMENTS WILL BE HEARD FROM THE AUDIENCE.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND, AT WHICH TIME THE BOARD MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR FURTHER DISCUSSION.

I WILL THEN CALL FOR A VOTE. DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ARE THEN FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL DISPOSITION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND YOUR COOPERATION IN ADHERING TO THE MEETING GUIDELINES.

OKAY. NEW BUSINESS. WE'RE STARTING WITH CP 24 00004.

[NEW BUSINESS:]

THE STAFF REPORT. GOOD EVENING. PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.

ALTHEA JEFFERSON, ASSISTANT GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR.

SO. I DO APOLOGIZE. I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WITH THE PRESENTATION.

HOWEVER, THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 11.66 ACRES.

THE APPLICANT. IS REQUESTING A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC TO MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING AND I WILL COVER BOTH APPLICATIONS UNDER MY PRESENTATION, A REZONING FROM S2 TO RT TEN AND THAT IS APPLICATION CPC 24 00002.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF UNION STREET, SOUTHEAST AND NORTH OF THE NORTHEAST INTERSECTION OF ALCAZAR STREET SOUTHEAST AND ULSTER AVENUE SOUTHEAST. THE TYPICAL USES IN THE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC.

PUBLIC LAND USE CLASSIFICATION INCLUDE GOVERNMENT OWNED FACILITIES, CHURCHES, UTILITIES, CLUBS AND LODGES, EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, AND SIMILAR USES, WITH A MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 2.0

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AND WITHIN THE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC. LAND USE. RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE NOT ALLOWED.

THE REQUESTED DENSITY IS MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS 11.66 ACRES.

THIS WOULD GIVE UP TO 116 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AS TEN UNITS PER ACRE ARE ALLOWED IN THIS PARTICULAR LAND USE. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF UNITS ACCOMMODATED ON A SUBJECT PARCEL COULD BE LOWER THAN THE PROPOSED 116 UNITS. WHEN YOU CONSIDER ALL OF THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR BUILDING LOT COVERAGE, SETBACKS, AND OTHERS THROUGH THE SITE DESIGN PROCESS.

FOR. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION SOME OTHER CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE.

THEY DO HAVE ABOUT 25, I'M SORRY, TWO AND A HALF ACRES OF WETLANDS AS INDICATED ON THAT SITE PLAN BOUNDARY SURVEY.

I'M SORRY. AND I JUST WANTED TO ALSO COVER THAT.

THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS, BOTH TYPES OF THESE APPLICATIONS DO REQUIRE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN MEETING WHICH WAS HELD, AND THERE WERE ABOUT 20 OR SO IN ATTENDANCE. THE COMMENTS WERE RECORDED AND THEY'RE PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE WAS A LETTER WITH SIGNATURES ALSO PROVIDED IN YOUR BACKUP UNDER CORRESPONDENCE.

I BELIEVE THAT'S ATTACHMENT 15. SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE FOR THE COMP PLAN FROM PUBLIC SEMI PUBLIC TO THE PROPOSED MODERATE DENSITY. AND I AM SHOWING HERE THAT WHAT THE MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST THE GENERAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AREA IS THAT IT IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SAME MAP, YOU WOULD BASICALLY END UP WITH MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA FOR AN APPLICATION OF THIS TYPE FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE WHERE REQUIRED, OF COURSE, TO LOOK AT FLORIDA STATUTES PARTICULARLY 163 .3177, IN ADDITION TO OUR VERY OWN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS FOUND IN SECTION 172 .021, PART C AND PARTS ONE THROUGH TEN. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT THE STANDARD SUBMITTAL REQUIREMENTS FOR THE APPLICATION SURVEY, NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ASSESSMENT, ETC. ARE ALSO IN YOUR BACKUP AS EXHIBITS.

SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.

AS YOU SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY WAS RESPONSES TO THIS CRITERIA.

AND THOSE ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, WHICH I'LL BE COVERING IN MY PRESENTATION.

OUR STAFF'S RESPONSES TO THE CRITERIA AND THOSE CRITERIA INCLUDE, OF COURSE, CONSISTENCY WITH OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE, ESTABLISHED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS IN THE COMP PLAN.

AND FOR THAT I APOLOGIZE. I'M SORRY. THE FIRST CRITERIA IS THE WHETHER OR NOT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD HAVE A FAVORABLE OR UNFAVORABLE EFFECT ON THE CITY'S BUDGET OR THE ECONOMY OF THE CITY, STAFF'S FINDINGS ARE THAT IT WOULD HAVE LITTLE TO NO EFFECT ON THE CITY'S BUDGET AND DETERMINATION OF THE ACTUAL ECONOMY OF THE CITY. THERE WAS NO BACKUP OR INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT TO SUBSTANTIATE ANY CONCLUSIONS.

THE SECOND CRITERIA. PART THREE IS WHETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF PUBLIC FACILITIES.

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STAFF SENT OUT THIS REQUEST TO VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING UTILITIES, PUBLIC WORKS AND WE ALSO GOT RESPONSES FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.

THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT THEY DON'T OBJECT TO THE INCREASED DENSITY, AND THAT THE PROJECT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO TO CONNECT TO EXISTING WATER AND SEWER AS THERE ARE AVAILABLE CONNECTIONS WITHIN PROXIMITY FOR DRAINAGE. THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT STATED NO OBJECTIONS WITH REGARDS TO DRAINAGE PLANNING AND THAT IF DEVELOPED, A DRAINAGE PLAN MUST BE PREPARED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CURRENT REGULATIONS AND APPROVED BY THE CITY, ALONG WITH APPROPRIATE OUTSIDE AGENCIES INCLUDING THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT AND THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT.

FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE BASED ON THE PROJECTED NUMBER OF STUDENTS FOR THE INCREASED DENSITY.

CURRENTLY, THE STONE MAGNET MIDDLE SCHOOL IS PROJECTED TO HAVE ENOUGH CAPACITY FOR THE POTENTIAL NUMBER OF STUDENTS THAT THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL. WITH REGARD TO ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOL, THE ADJACENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CONCURRENCY SERVICE AREA AND THE ADJACENT HIGH SCHOOL CONCURRENCY SERVICE AREA HAD TO BE USED TO ACCOMMODATE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR THE TOTAL PROJECTED ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. WITH REGARDS TO TRANSPORTATION, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PROVIDED A TRANSPORTATION STUDY, AND THAT THE SANFILIPPO DRIVE SOUTHEAST, A TWO LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, WILL BE BEYOND ITS MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE VOLUME PER THE FDOT MULTIMODAL QUALITY LEVEL OF SERVICE HANDBOOK. AT THE TIME OF BUILD OUT FOR THE PROPOSED SANKOFA GREEN ESTATES, AND TO ACCOMMODATE THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND MAINTAIN THE ADAPTIVE ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS THE EXCLUSIVE LEFT TURN LANES WILL NEED TO BE PROVIDED OR WIDENING OF THE ROADWAY TO A FOUR LANE SECTION.

IN THIS INSTANCE, GIVEN THAT THERE IS NO TIA, THE TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER ALSO NOTED THAT THERE WILL BE A TIA REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT. WE DID RECEIVE STUDIES FOR THE INTERSECTIONS AT SAN FILIPPO AND WACO SAN FILIPPO FOUNDATION, AND A SEGMENT OF SAN FILIPPO FROM WACO TO FOUNDATION.

HOWEVER, THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER IS REQUIRING SAN FILIPPO AT UNION AND SAN FILIPPO AT ALCAZAR ALSO BE STUDIED, AND PARTICULARLY SHOULD IT CONTINUE TO THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.

SO SORRY. GIVE ME A MOMENT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M COVERING EVERYTHING.

THE NEXT CRITERIA IS WHETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT, OR THE NATURAL OR HISTORICAL RESOURCES OF THE CITY OR THE REGION AS A RESULT.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE NO NOTED HISTORICAL RESOURCES AT THE SUBJECT SITE OR NEAR THE SUBJECT SITE.

AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND AND NATURAL RESOURCES WILL BE PRESERVED PURSUANT TO THE CITY LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

THERE WERE SOME SPECIES NOTED, AND LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, SOME WETLANDS NOTED AS WELL.

AND WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS IN OUR CODE THAT WOULD PROTECT THOSE.

AND WHETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL HAVE FAVORABLE OR ADVERSE EFFECT ON THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO FIND ADEQUATE HOUSING THAT'S REASONABLY ACCESSIBLE TO THEIR PLACES OF EMPLOYMENT. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE PLENTY OF RESIDENCES LOCATED IN THE AREA, AND STAFF IS DETERMINED THAT THERE'S NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE AVAILABILITY OF THE HOUSING THAT WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE TO EMPLOYMENT.

WHETHER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT WILL PROMOTE OR ADVERSELY IMPACT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE OR ESTHETICS OF THE REGION OR THE CITY.

A NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECT PROPOSED AT THE SUBJECT SITE WILL BE REQUIRED TO EXTEND THE CITY'S EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO OBTAIN WATER AND SEWER, WHICH WILL PROMOTE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ANY PROJECT AT THIS SITE WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.

AND IN TERMS OF THE ESTHETIC IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED DENSITY, THE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, ON THE ESTHETIC IMPACT IS SUBJECTIVE IN THIS

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INSTANCE AND WHETHER THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL ELEMENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ESTABLISHED LEVELS OF SERVICE.

AGAIN, STAFF HAS WENT THROUGH THE LEVELS OF SERVICE FOR THE SCHOOLS, TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES.

CURRENTLY IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ELEMENT, THE ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS TO BE MAINTAINED AS PART OF CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. TO ENSURE THAT ALL ADEQUATE FACILITIES ARE AVAILABLE WHEN THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS OR WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME FRAME.

AGAIN, THE COMP PLAN REQUIRES THIS, SO ALL ESTABLISHED LEVEL OF SERVICE STANDARDS WOULD HAVE TO BE MET.

FOR WATER, WASTEWATER, SOLID WASTE, DRAINAGE, TRANSPORTATION, AND SCHOOLS WHICH WERE ALL EVALUATED PREVIOUSLY.

WHETHER THE REQUEST MAXIMIZES COMPATIBILITY. THIS IS WE NEED TO TAKE PARTICULAR INTEREST IN BECAUSE WE HAVE TO CONSIDER SPECIFICALLY THE FLORIDA STATUTES SECTION 163 31649.

IN TERMS OF THE DEFINITION FOR COMPATIBILITY AND OF COURSE, OUR VERY OWN COMP PLAN OBJECTIVE FLU.

1.8 REQUIRES THE CITY TO ENSURE THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS COMPATIBLE WITH ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS AND STRIVE TO ENHANCE THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.

WHILE THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THE TOWNHOMES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES, THE DISTINCTION SHOULD BE MADE THAT THE INTENT FOR THE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SUBJECT AREA, NOR THE INTENT OF THE SPECIFIED LAND USE DESIGNATION, AND THEREFORE IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE STATE'S DEFINITION OF COMPATIBILITY IN ITS ENTIRETY, NOR THE CITY'S. FLORIDA STATUTE 163 .31699 STATES THAT THE TERM COMPATIBILITY MEANS A CONDITION IN WHICH LAND USES OR CONDITIONS CAN COEXIST IN RELATIVE PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER IN A STABLE FASHION OVER TIME, SUCH THAT NO USE OR CONDITION IS UNDULY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY BY ANOTHER USE OR CONDITION.

THE PROPOSED CHANGE, WHICH WOULD DOUBLE THE CURRENTLY PERMITTED DENSITY, DOES NOT PROMOTE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL DIRECTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ON LOCAL ROADS SERVING THE AREA.

WHETHER THE REQUEST PROVIDES A TRANSITION BETWEEN AREAS OF DIFFERENT CHARACTER DENSITY OR INTENSITY.

AGAIN, KEY WORDS HERE. TRANSITION BETWEEN AREAS.

AND WITH REGARD TO DIFFERENT CHARACTER DENSITY OR INTENSITY, THE SUBJECT SITE IS SURROUNDED BY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USES ON ALL FOUR SIDES.

THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO CHANGE THE LAND USE TO MODERATE DENSITY WILL NOT ESTABLISH A TRANSITION BETWEEN AREAS OF DIFFERENT CHARACTER.

INSTEAD, THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL SANDWICH AN AREA OF INCREASED DENSITY AMID AREAS OF ALL THE SAME CHARACTER.

AND THIS WILL PLACE A MODERATELY DENSE AREA BETWEEN LOW TO LOW DENSITY AREAS WITHOUT REFLECTING A TRANSITION BETWEEN DISTINCT LAND USE TYPES, INTENSITIES, OR DENSITIES, AND WHETHER THE REQUEST TO RELOCATE HIGHER DENSITY INTENSITY USES IN THE AREAS ALREADY FEATURE ADEQUATE VEHICULAR ACCESS AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE ALREADY PRE-ESTABLISHED ROADS AND ACCESS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES IN THE AREA, AND WITH CREATING WHETHER THE REQUEST HAS POTENTIAL FOR CREATING LAND USE INEQUITIES PER POLICY FLEW 1.12 A OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO CREATE LAND USE INEQUITIES, SUCH AS THOSE SPECIFIED IN THE SUBJECT FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT POLICY.

SPECIFICALLY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT DOES NOT DISPROPORTIONATELY BURDEN ANY PARTICULAR GEOGRAPHIC AREA OR DEMOGRAPHIC DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP, AND NOR DOES IT RESULT IN AN OVERCONCENTRATION OF SIMILAR LAND USES THAT COULD LIMIT ACCESS TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES.

STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE CRITERIA AND PROVIDED THE BACK UP IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, AND IN THIS PRESENTATION, THE BOARD IS BEING ASKED. WOW. THAT'S A WHOPPER.

THE BOARD IS IS BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IN A PUBLIC HEARING, AND TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL ACTION. STAFF HAS TWO SEPARATE APPROVAL MOTIONS FOR THE

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BOARD TO CONSIDER. PLEASE TAKE NOTE OF THE ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL LANGUAGE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS SAYING THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, BUT CONSIDER AN APPROVAL OF A DESIGNATION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SUBJECT SITE. IN ALL FAIRNESS, TO MAKE THIS COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, AND ALSO TO GIVE THE APPLICANT USE OF THE PROPERTY, THE CURRENT USE OF PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC IS NOT NECESSARILY THE MAXIMUM USE THAT COULD BE PROVIDED ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE AS IT IS TODAY. WITH THAT, WE ALSO HAVE A IT'S IN IT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

IT'S ON PAGE TEN OF THE STAFF REPORT FOR CP 24 00004 IS THE RECOMMENDED DENIAL LANGUAGE FOR THE APPLICATION. I CAN CONTINUE ON WITH THE PRESENTATION FOR CPC.

24 00002, SO THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER IT ALL TOGETHER.

NO. GO AHEAD, MADAM CHAIR, AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND REVISIT THESE SLIDES SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS. IF WE CAN TAKE A MINOR RECESS, WE CAN MAYBE FIX THE POWERPOINT.

NO. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. SO I WILL CONTINUE WITH THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

CAN YOU CAN YOU JUST KEEP IT LIKE THAT? DON'T CLICK INTO THE PRESENTATION SO WE CAN ONLY SEE IT.

YEAH. I CAN'T SEE IT. DID YOU WANT TO SEE THE RECOMMENDATION? YEAH. IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE RECOMMENDATION, AT LEAST WE CAN SEE IT.

THE WHOLE SCREEN NOW. OKAY, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN NOTHING.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ THOSE OR CAN YOU? THERE ARE ALSO AGAIN.

WELL, THE THE ALTERNATIVE APPROVAL IS NOT IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THERE YOU GO. BUT THE THE OTHER TWO SUGGESTED LANGUAGE AND YOU'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO USE THESE ARE IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

THANK YOU, MISS JEFFERSON. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YOU'VE HEARD THE STAFF REPORT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF BEFORE WE CONTINUE? ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE, WE HAVE ONE OTHER CASE I WANT TO GO THROUGH FOR THE SAME SITE.

OR ARE YOU? SO YOU CAN DO THE COMPANION CASE.

I'M SORRY FOR THE COMPANION CASE. THE ZONING FOR THE.

YES. REZONING. GO AHEAD. SAME SITE. YES.

SO THE NEXT CASE IS CPC 24 00002. IT IS THE SAME SITE CONSISTING OF 11.66 ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO REZONE FROM R S2, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP ON YOUR RIGHT TO ZONING DISTRICT OF RT TEN, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL TRANSITION TEN.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AREAS SURROUNDING ZONINGS INCLUDE RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTHEAST, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AS WELL AS THE R S2.

FOR A REZONING CASE. THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIRES THAT WE LOOK AT FACTORS OF ANALYSIS FOUND IN SECTION 172 .022, PART E, ONE A THROUGH F, AND IN THIS CASE, WHENEVER THERE IS A REQUEST FOR A HIGHER DENSITY REZONING. WE ARE ALSO TO LOOK AT THE CRITERIA IN SECTION 172 022E, PART TWO A AND B, AS WE DID IN YOUR STAFF REPORT. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

ANY ADOPTED PLANS IN THE CITY. AND WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT RESPONSES TO THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS WHICH ARE IN THE BACKUP AS EXHIBITS IN YOUR REPORT, AS WELL AS THE NATURAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, A TRAFFIC STATEMENT AND OTHER SUPPORT DOCUMENTATION.

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IN THIS CASE, FOR REZONING THERE ARE CRITERIA IN WHICH THEY MUST LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.

THE EFFECT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. EXISTING UNDEVELOPED LAND ZONED RT TEN.

THAT'S ALREADY IN THE AREA. WHETHER OR NOT IT SUPPORTS THE COMPREHENSIVE, THE REQUEST SUPPORTS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND OTHER STRATEGIC PLANS.

WHETHER OR NOT THE RT TEN VERSUS THE SURROUNDING ZONING IS IN COMPATIBILITY WITH ONE ANOTHER, AND THEN THE TRANSITION ISSUE AGAIN WITH REGARD TO CHARACTER AND DENSITY, PROXIMITY TO NONRESIDENTIAL USES, AND EXISTING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. FOR THIS PARTICULAR REPORT, I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THESE MORE QUICKLY. IN TERMS OF FUTURE NEEDS THE APPLICANT'S NEED AND JUSTIFICATION FOR THE CHANGE DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THE COMMUNITY'S CURRENT OR FUTURE NEEDS.

FUTURE NEEDS ARE LIKELY TO REQUIRE MORE COMPATIBLE HOUSING ALREADY IN EXISTENCE NEAR THE SITE, WHILE THE APPLICANT CITES POLICIES FROM THE FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT IN SUPPORT OF THEIR REQUEST.

THE POLICIES ARE TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT WHEN CONSIDERED IN ISOLATION OF OTHER HOUSING AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES, AND THE INTENT TO PROVIDE TRANSITION AREAS BETWEEN DIFFERING DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES.

THE INTRODUCTION OF MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USE IN THIS LOCATION WOULD DISRUPT THE PREVAILING PATTERN OF DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, WHICH DEFINES THE AREA'S CHARACTER AND CONTRIBUTES TO ITS ONGOING STABILITY.

THE EFFECT OF THE CHANGE ON PARTICULAR ON A PARTICULAR PROPERTY OR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

I WOULD GO BACK TO MY PREVIOUS RESPONSE WITH REGARD TO THE AR TEN DISTRICT BEING PRIMARILY TO SERVE AS A TRANSITION DISTRICT, INCLUSIVE OF A RANGE OF MIDDLE HOUSING TYPES.

THE PROPOSAL SUGGESTS ONLY ONE TYPE OF HOUSING, NOT A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES, AND DOES NOT SERVE AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN DIFFERENT DENSITIES AND INTENSITIES, OR PROVIDE A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES.

THE AMOUNT OF EXISTING UNDEVELOPED LAND IN THE GENERAL AREA HAVING THE SAME CLASSIFICATION WITH REGARD TO THAT.

THE RT TEN ZONING DISTRICT IS A NEW ZONING DISTRICT THAT WAS ADOPTED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE CURRENTLY NOT ANY PROPERTIES WITHIN THE GENERAL AREA WITH THIS ZONING DISTRICT.

WHETHER OR NOT THIS FURTHERS THE PURPOSE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE RT.

TEN ZONING DISTRICT WAS CREATED A TWO AGAIN COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WAS TO SERVE AS A TRANSITION AREA BETWEEN MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND EITHER A COMMERCIAL OR HIGHER DENSITY USE.

AGAIN, IN THIS CASE NOT SERVING AS A TRANSITION, BUT BEING PROPOSED TO SERVE AS JUST A MIDDLE OF A DONUT HOLE.

WHETHER THE REQUESTED DISTRICT IS SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO SERVE AGAIN AS A TRANSITION BETWEEN LOW AND HIGH DENSITY AREAS, OR BETWEEN HIGH AND HIGH DENSITY AND COMMERCIAL AREAS.

IN THIS CASE, THE SITE IS NOT ADJACENT TO EITHER.

AND WHETHER OR NOT IT PROVIDES A TRANSITION. I THINK WE'VE ANSWERED THAT.

AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT ALSO HAD TO BE REVIEWED.

AND THOSE TWO CRITERIA. SPOKE TO WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS EXISTING TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS BIKES, TRAILS, TRANSIT AND SIDEWALKS IN THE NEIGHBORING AREA, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE AVAILABILITY OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES WERE AVAILABLE TO MEET THE DAILY NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS FOR GOOD SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT.

THERE'S VERY LIMITED BIKE LANES AND TRAILS. THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND WITH REGARD TO NONRESIDENTIAL USES, AS YOU COULD SEE FROM THE MAPS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN THERE IS A GOOD DISTANCE BETWEEN THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE INDUSTRIAL UP TO THE NORTHEAST.

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WITH THAT STAFF HAS TWO PROPOSED SUGGESTED MOTIONS.

AGAIN, IN THIS CASE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS BEING ASKED TO LOOK AT THE REVIEW CRITERIA AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING TO THE CITY COUNCIL. IF THE BOARD IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL, THEN WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CITE THE SECTION AND LETTER AGAIN. WE SAW LETTERS A THROUGH F AND ONE SECTION, AND THEN A AND B AND THE SECOND PART. AND WE CAN REVISIT THOSE.

ON THIS LIST HERE. WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE FOR STAFF OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. YOU HAD MENTIONED IT.

IF WE WERE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL FOR THE FIRST ONE, WE WERE REVIEWED TO TO GO TO LOW DENSITY, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND I'M JUST A DUMB QUESTION THAT JUST MATCHES THE CURRENT AREA OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE.

YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

WELL, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THAT PLOT, LIKE IF IT WENT TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, IT WOULD REALISTICALLY MATCH THE OTHER AREA THAT WE'RE SURROUNDING AREAS AS FAR AS THE HOMES AND THE COMMUNITY AND GO.

MY POINTER HAS STOPPED WORKING. HERE WE GO. SO HERE'S THE STUDY.

YEAH, WELL, THAT'S THE ZONING. SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAND USE? YEAH. YEAH. MORE OF THAT SURROUNDING. IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE THE FIRST ONE, THE CP 24.

NOT NOT THIS ONE, BUT I GUESS WE LUMPED IT ALL TOGETHER.

SO THERE WE GO. SO CURRENTLY TO THE RIGHT, THE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC.

I READ TO YOU THOSE ALLOWED USES PURSUANT TO THE COMP PLAN AND ON THE LEFT A PROPOSAL OF MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

EVERYTHING IN YELLOW. THERE CURRENTLY IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THAT LITTLE SPLOTCH OF BROWN TO THE WEST IS UTILITIES.

AND UP TO THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE MAP IS INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE.

I APPRECIATE IT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE, WILL THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE? GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. MY NAME IS KIM ROZANKA. I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF LACEY ROZANKA.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF SANKOFA GROUP WHO IS UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THIS AND TO BUILD TOWNHOMES.

THAT'S THE DESIRED IMPACT. WE STARTED THIS PROCESS PROBABLY ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO BEFORE THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGED.

AND THE IDEA WAS ALWAYS TOWNHOMES BECAUSE CURRENTLY NOTHING CAN BE BUILT THERE.

ANY NEW SUBDIVISIONS HAVE TO HAVE POWER AND WATER AND THERE'S NO POWER IN WATER.

SO RIGHT NOW THIS PROPERTY IS RELATIVELY USELESS.

IT ACTUALLY IS USELESS. NOTHING CAN BE BUILT ON IT.

AND WE HAVE INCONSISTENT FUTURE LAND USE AND ZONING.

I HAVE WITH ME JIM MCKNIGHT, WHO IS A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER OF 45 YEARS.

HE'LL BE DOING MOST OF THE PRESENTATION. AND JAMES TAYLOR, PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, WHO HAS MANY YEARS IN TRANSPORTATION.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT JUST A FEW THINGS BEFORE WE START.

IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MEMORANDUMS, BOTH OF THEM SAY A TRANSPORTATION STATEMENT WAS PROVIDED THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET, AND IT WAS PREPARED BY JAMES TAYLOR. AND HE DID MAKE AN OPINION THAT THIS WILL NOT HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT, THAT THE PROPOSED SANKOFA GREEN ESTATES DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK.

ALL DEVELOPMENT INCREASES TRAFFIC. THE STANDARD IS WHETHER IT REDUCES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WHICH IT WILL NOT DO.

AND JAMES TAYLOR WILL INDEED TALK ABOUT THAT.

BUT THAT IS A MISTAKE. AND YOUR STAFF REPORTS THAT THE TRANSPORTATION STATEMENTS WERE PROVIDED, AND THAT A TIA IS NOT REQUIRED BY YOUR CODE IS REQUIRED.

POSSIBLY IF THE ENGINEER FOR THE CITY WANTS IT.

IT'S A DISCRETIONARY ISSUE, BUT IT MUST BE PROVIDED IF IT PRODUCES MORE THAN 100 NET TRIPS PER PEAK HOUR, WHICH THIS DOES NOT. SO THIS IS NOT A MANDATED MANDATED TIA.

THIS IS A REQUEST BASED UPON A PUBLIC WORKS MANUAL ADOPTED AFTER THE APPLICATION THAT IS NOT IN YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SO IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE A TIA AND WE HAVE NOT DONE SO AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE AT ZONING, WE'RE NOT AT SITE PLAN. WHEN WE GO TO SITE PLAN, YES, THAT WILL NEED TO BE DONE.

OTHER THAN THAT I DO WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE STAFF REPORT IF YOU HAVEN'T JIM MCKNIGHT REDID THIS APPLICATION THREE TIMES AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF WITH THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS, AND DID A VERY DETAILED ANALYSIS.

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WHERE'S YOUR STAFF? REPORT IS VERY CONCLUSORY, WHEREAS OURS IS DETAILED.

AND I'D ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL. FINALLY, THE ISSUE OF COMPATIBILITY IS A SINGLE FAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY, AND THE DEFINITION PROVIDED TO YOU IS WHETHER THEY CAN COEXIST IN SINGLE FAMILY TO SINGLE FAMILY.

HOME OWNERSHIP TO HOME OWNERSHIP CAN DEFINITELY COEXIST.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD TURN THIS OVER TO JIM MCKNIGHT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU AND TO GO OVER A FEW THINGS.

WHO HAS THE YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW ME HOW TO USE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. THIS PROPOSAL IS FOR MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND IT INCLUDES AREAS, AREAS OF MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

DUPLEXES, TOWNHOMES ARE CONSIDERED SINGLE FAMILY AND APPROPRIATE IN AREAS OF INFILL.

THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED AN AREA OF INFILL. THE PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC LAND USE THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY MORE INTENSE THAN MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THE R2, SINCE WE WENT INTO THE ZONING A LITTLE BIT, THE RT TEN FOCUSES ON A RANGE OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING OPTIONS AND PROMOTES TRANSITION IN AN AREA THAT IS CLEARLY INFILL, HIGH QUALITY, MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THIS TALKS ABOUT THE RT TEN.

I WON'T READ IT TO YOU. I BELIEVE YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR PACKET, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE REAL ASPECT THAT IS IMPORTANT FROM THE HOUSING ELEMENT POLICY. HZG DASH 11C SAYS THE CITY IN THEIR OWN COMP PLAN TO AMEND THE LDC TO PROMOTE MIDDLE MISSING HOUSING OPTIONS.

AND IT SAYS LATER ON IN THAT SAME SEGMENT IN SELECT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

NOW DOES IT DEFINE WHAT THOSE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE SELECTED TO BE? NO. AND WE KNOW THAT CURRENTLY, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, THERE'S NO RT TEN THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED IN THE CITY AS FAR AS ANY LAND USE CHANGE OR ZONING CHANGE. STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG ON THAT.

SO THAT'S A KEY ELEMENT OUT OF YOUR OWN HOUSING ELEMENT.

THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY STATES THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY.

AND THERE IS. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I CAN'T DO TWO THINGS AT ONE TIME, OBVIOUSLY.

THAT IS AS YOU'LL SEE, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE THIRD POLICY, THERE IS WHAT I WAS READING TO YOU, AND THAT'S RIGHT OUT OF YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. OKAY.

MOVING FORWARD, THESE ARE JUST THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

THAT'S MORE WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ZONING ASPECT OF WHAT IS REQUIRED.

IT'S SPECIFICALLY SHOWS THAT IN THE RT TEN, THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED THE DUPLEX AND THE TOWNHOME.

IT PROVIDES FOR A VARIETY OF USES WITHIN THE RT ITSELF, ALL WITH DIFFERENT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN THIS BECAUSE THAT'S JUST AN AERIAL VIEW.

AND I THINK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THE GENERAL AREA, ABOUT 40% OF THE AREA IS DEVELOPED.

KIM. IS THAT CORRECT? UNDEVELOPED? 40% IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. MEANING THE LOTS HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT ON.

THAT, AGAIN, GIVES YOU A LOCATIONAL VIEW OF WHERE WE'RE AT, WHERE THE MAJOR ROADS ARE AT THE INDUSTRIAL THAT EXISTS TO THE NORTH AND EAST. AND THIS IS NOT VERY FAR REMOVED FROM THAT INDUSTRIAL, BUT YOU COULD SEE THAT ON THE MAP THAT WAS PROVIDED TO YOU.

AND I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC THAT EXISTS ON THE COMP PLAN MAP TODAY IS MUCH MORE INTENSE THAN WHAT THE REQUEST FOR MODERATE DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM.

WHO KNOWS WHAT GDC WAS THINKING MANY, MANY YEARS AGO WHEN THEY TOOK MULTIPLE AREAS, THEY PUT THESE PARCELS IN THERE WHERE THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, COMMUNITY CENTERS. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE OF THESE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN LIKE THIS.

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BUT AGAIN, IT OBVIOUSLY IS AN MORE INTENSE USE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD WANT ADJACENT TO THE BACKS OF THOSE HOMES.

THAT'S JUST MOVING INTO THE ZONING. THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY RS2.

THAT IS THE CONCEPT PLAN. OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT AT SITE PLAN STAGE, BUT THAT IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.

WITH YOU CAN SEE THE TWO POINTS OF INGRESS EGRESS IN THERE.

SO AGAIN, TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH. IT'S A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

ON THAT YOU'RE DONE. SIR. THAT'S OUT OF ORDER.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. SIR. OKAY. THIS DEPICTS WHERE THE UTILITIES WOULD BE COMING FROM.

WATER AND SEWER. SO THAT YOU DO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT EXTENSIONS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE BORNE BY THE DEVELOPER OF THIS PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE LOCATION OF THE CURRENT FIRE STATION IN PROXIMITY TO THIS PROPERTY AS WELL.

I'LL LET THAT SIT FOR JUST A SECOND SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT.

OKAY. STORMWATER. WE ONLY PUT THIS UP BECAUSE THAT QUESTION COMES UP OFTEN.

AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY AS WELL AS THE WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT.

SO AGAIN, IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AND YOU HAVE AN APPROVED SITE PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JAMES. JAMES TAYLOR AT THIS POINT TO DISCUSS THE TRANSPORTATION.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, JAMES TAYLOR, FOR THE RECORD.

KIMLEY-HORN ASSOCIATES, REGISTERED TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA SINCE 2009.

HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STATEMENT THAT WENT IN WITH THIS APPLICATION.

IT WAS PERFORMED IN ACCORDANCE WITH NOT ONLY THE CITY'S TIS METHODOLOGY.

THAT'S TRAFFIC IMPACT STATEMENT METHODOLOGY, STUDY METHODOLOGY.

IT'S ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE IN COMPLIANCE WITH FLORIDA STATUTE.

163 WE DID RELY ON FDOT TRAVEL DEMAND MODELING AND GUIDANCE FROM FDOT ON HOW TO EVALUATE THE CAPACITY OF THE AREA, ROADWAYS, AND INTERSECTIONS. WE USE DATA FROM THE LATEST ITE TRIP GENERATION MANUAL.

THAT'S KIND OF INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR HOW YOU FORECAST TRIPS FOR LAND USE.

AND WE ALSO EVALUATED THE INTERSECTIONS AND ROADWAYS BASED ON THE LATEST VERSION OF THE HIGHWAY CAPACITY MANUAL.

WHAT THE STATEMENT PROVIDES IS A NUMBER OF THINGS.

IT PROVIDES THE FORECASTED TRIP GENERATION FROM THE SITE.

IT PROVIDES THE TRIP ASSIGNMENT FOR THE SITE WHERE WHERE IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT THOSE TRIPS WILL GO IN AND THROUGHOUT THE THE ROADWAY NETWORK.

IT PROVIDES NOT ONLY THE EXISTING BUT ALSO THE BUILD OUT CONDITIONS THAT STUDY AREA INTERSECTIONS, AND THAT'S EVALUATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TELLS US TO EVALUATE IT AGAINST.

AND IT ALSO EVALUATES EXISTING AND BUILD OUT CONDITIONS AT THE ADJACENT SEGMENT OF SAN FILIPPO DRIVE.

IT WAS REVIEWED BY THE CITY. WE HAD TWO ROUNDS OF COMMENTS.

ALL THOSE COUNTY, ALL THOSE CITY COMMENTS WERE ADDRESSED AND ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS WAS REQUESTED BY THE STAFF AT TIME OF SITE PLAN APPLICATION ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE METHODOLOGY OF THE CITY REQUIRES. AND I BROKE IT.

DOWN LIKE THAT. OKAY. GOT IT. THE SOME OF THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE ANALYSIS.

THE PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE ABOUT 50 5 A.M.

PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND 60 6 P.M. PEAK HOUR TRIPS.

SO JUST FOR PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU WERE AT THE DRIVEWAYS, LOOKING AT THE TRIPS COMING IN AND OUT OVER THE COURSE OF THE PEAK HOUR, THEN YOU WOULD COUNT ONE CAR EITHER COMING IN OR OUT OF THE TWO DRIVEWAYS OVER 60S.

THE STUDY AREA, ROADWAY AND ROADWAYS AND INTERSECTIONS WERE EVALUATED PER SOME OF THOSE GUIDANCES THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST SLIDE.

AND THEY'RE ALL SHOWN TO OPERATE WITHIN THE CITY'S ACCEPTABLE LEVEL OF SERVICE DURING BOTH THE EXISTING CONDITION AND IN THE BUILD OUT CONDITION.

THE THIRD BULLET HERE IS A LITTLE NUANCED, BUT I WANTED TO BRING IT UP BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT REQUIRING ADDITIONAL INTERSECTIONS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED IN THE STUDY. THE METHODOLOGY OF THE CITY EVALUATES A PROJECT'S SIGNIFICANT IMPACT BASED ON HOW MUCH OF THE PROJECT TRIPS ARE COMPARABLE TO THE CAPACITY OF THE ROADWAY.

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SO IN THIS CASE, ANYTHING OVER 5% OF A PROJECT COMPARED TO THE CAPACITY IS CONSIDERED A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

AND WE EVALUATE THAT FURTHER. THE LARGEST IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT IS EXPECTED TO BE AT THE ADJACENT ROADWAY SEGMENT OF SAN FILIPPO.

AND IT'S LESS THAN THAT 5% THRESHOLD AT 3.27.

THAT SEGMENT DOES OPERATE TODAY AT 68% OF THE ADOPTED MAX SERVICE VOLUME OF THE ROADWAY.

ONCE THE PROJECT IS BUILT OUT AND GIVEN A FEW YEARS OF NON PROJECT BACKGROUND GROWTH, THAT 68% WOULD GO UP TO 75%.

SO STILL WITHIN THE ADOPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE ROAD.

THE PROJECT TRAFFIC ADDS LESS THAN ONE SECOND OF DELAY PER VEHICLE PER INTERSECTION THAT WE LOOKED AT ON SAN FILIPPO DURING THE PM PEAK HOUR.

JUST FOR SOME PERSPECTIVE OF THE MINIMAL IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT BASED ON TRIP GENERATION.

BEFORE YOU STEP AWAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? CAN YOU ANSWER A QUESTION FOR THE BOARD? WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT IS THIS A DIFFERENT VERSION THAT WE HAVE, OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT NAME HERE OR WHAT.

OUR CITY ENGINEER. OKAY. THIS IS DIFFERENT OKAY.

THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. OF COURSE. I WENT THE WRONG WAY.

IN CLOSING, WE HAVE PROVIDED THE LETTER ON SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

WE KNOW THAT'S A QUESTION THAT COMES UP OFTEN IN PALM BAY.

AND WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDED WITH A LETTER THAT SAYS THERE ARE SUFFICIENT CAPACITY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO PROCEED EVEN AT MAXIMUM DENSITY, WHICH WE'RE NOT PROPOSING. IT STILL MEETS THE REQUIRED REQUIREMENT FOR SCHOOL CONCURRENCY.

AND WE'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.

OR DOES ARE THERE ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I WAS GOING TO ASK A QUESTION QUICKLY. GO AHEAD.

IT SAYS TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE IS THAT IT'S NOT A MULTILEVEL THING.

THE DUPLEX IS JUST TWO PIECES. RIGHT. SO IT WOULD JUST BE FIVE PER ACRE GENERALLY.

NO, IT WOULD BE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS AT MODERATE DENSITY, UP TO TEN DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ONE TOWNHOME WITH TWO LEVELS ON IT, THAT'S ONE UNIT.

OKAY. THAT WOULD BE ONE UNIT. SO THERE'D BE UP TO TEN DUPLEXES PER ACRE.

TEN. WHATEVER'S BUILT THERE. YEAH. YES, IT WOULD BE.

IN THIS CASE, WE'RE TALKING TOWNHOMES, BUT IT STILL WOULD BE UNITS PER ACRE, TOWNHOMES, SINGLE FAMILY, WHATEVER, TEN UNITS PER ACRE UNDER THE MODERATE DENSITY.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMP PLAN RIGHT NOW. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YEAH.

OKAY. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. I GUESS PERTAINING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD FEEDBACK.

SO I READ THE REPORT AND SAW SOME INFORMATION.

WHY IS STONE THE ONLY ONE CONSIDERED WHEN COLUMBIA IS DOWN THE STREET, WEST SIDES DOWN THE STREET, BUSSING THEM TO TO MELBOURNE? WHY IS THAT CONSIDERED? I DON'T KNOW IF IF SHE CAN SPEAK OR IF THAT'S NOT HER TURN YET, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT CAN TAKE IT, BUT IS THAT REALISTIC? THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE, KAREN BLACK.

I THINK SHE CAN ANSWER THAT MUCH BETTER THAN I CAN. YEAH.

MAY I SUGGEST THAT BEFORE WE BRING KAREN UP, THAT YOU PERHAPS FINISH WITH THE APPLICANT.

YEAH, I GUESS I'LL WAIT FOR THAT QUESTION FOR FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS.

FOR THE APPLICANT, FOR THE BOARD. SEEING. NONE.

THANK YOU. THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.

HELLO. KAREN BLACK, MANAGER FOR FACILITIES PLANNING WITH BREVARD PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I BELIEVE YOUR QUESTION IS. IN REGARDS TO WHY DO WE EVALUATE THE ADJACENT SCHOOLS INSTEAD? YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE. IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. OKAY. SO AS PART OF OUR PROCESS, WE EVALUATE THE SCHOOLS FOR THE ZONE WHERE THE SUBDIVISION IS.

IN THIS CASE, THIS SUBDIVISION GENERATED TO 20 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS, EIGHT MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, AND 14 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS. WHEN WE APPLIED THOSE TO THE ZONE SCHOOLS, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COULD TAKE IT, BUT COLUMBIA ELEMENTARY WAS 25 STUDENTS SHORT IN THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTIONS.

OKAY, AND BAYSIDE HIGH SCHOOL WAS 12 STUDENTS SHORT IN THE FIVE YEAR IN THE FIFTH YEAR.

THE PROJECTIONS. SO BASED ON OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, I AM THEN REQUIRED TO EVALUATE THE ADJOINING SCHOOLS TO SEE IF THEY CAN FIT THERE.

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YEAH. OKAY. SO IN THIS CASE, THE ADJOINING SCHOOLS OF PORT MALABAR ELEMENTARY AND PALM BAY HIGH COULD HANDLE THE STUDENTS. THE SHORTAGE OF STUDENTS AND IN THIS CASE, THE 50 STUDENTS TOTAL THAT THIS SUBDIVISION IS POSSIBLY GOING TO GENERATE, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WOULD BE MAXIMUM.

THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT CAME IN WITH THE APPLICATION WAS 116 TOWNHOMES.

AND I BELIEVE HE MENTIONED IT WOULD BE FEWER HOMES THAN THAT.

IS KIND OF A MINIMAL IMPACT AT THIS TIME. WE ARE PROPOSING.

WELL WE'RE WORKING ON A BUILDING ADDITION AT BAYSIDE, SO I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE 12 STUDENTS THAT WE WERE SHORT AT BAYSIDE.

SO I BELIEVE THE HIGH SCHOOL WILL BE NOT A PROBLEM.

AND ELEMENTARY, WE ARE PUTTING AN ADDITION AT WESTSIDE AND WE'RE PUTTING A POSSIBLE ADDITION.

WE'RE EVALUATING AN ADDITION AND A K-8 MODEL AT SUNRISE.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SCHOOL IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WILL BE AN ISSUE.

SO IS IT. SO WHEN YOU REVIEW IT AND JUST JUST MAKE SURE I'M THINKING CORRECTLY, YOU'RE ONLY SEEING AS IF WHERE IT COULD BE SUPPORTED AS FAR AS HOW THEY GET THERE THIS AND THAT. THAT'S NOT YOUR LANE. IT'S JUST REALLY THE SCHOOLS. AND THEN AS IT PERTAINS TO THE BROADER AREA OF PALM BAY AS WE'RE GROWING.

THAT'S NOT YOUR CONCERN. NOW. IT'S 12, BUT THERE COULD BE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO ADD 500 STUDENTS.

CORRECT. BUT I CAN ONLY HOLD THIS PROJECT ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS PROJECT. YES.

OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T. AND WE LOOK AT THE AGENDA.

WE DON'T LOOK COUNTYWIDE. WE LOOK AT THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AS WE LOOK AT THE ADJOINING CONCURRENCY AREA.

YEAH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

IF I MAY ASK ONE QUESTION, MADAM CHAIR. SO YOU WROTE THIS THIS SCHOOL REPORT.

DID YOU WRITE THIS SCHOOL? I DID. WHEN DO YOU EXPECT FOR BAYSIDE TO EXPAND IN FOR SUNRISE? TO EXPAND AS AS YOU STATED. OKAY. SO BAYSIDE IS CURRENTLY IN THE WORKS.

SO I BELIEVE IT'S SCHOOL YEAR 2728. OKAY. KIND OF ONE CONCERN I DO HAVE.

WHY IS THAT NOT IN YOUR REPORT? BECAUSE THIS WAS PROCESSED BEFORE THAT WAS MADE PUBLIC OR BEFORE THAT WAS EVEN DECIDED.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IT WASN'T KNOWN YET. SO WHEN I DO THE PROJECTIONS, I USUALLY DO PROJECTIONS IN NOVEMBER.

AND WE DO A WHAT WE CALL A FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE PLAN BY THE END OF DECEMBER.

AND THAT IS BASICALLY JUST A SPREADSHEET THAT GIVES PROJECTIONS AND CAPACITY AND KEEPS IT AT 100% SERVICE LEVEL.

AND THAT ONE FORM THAT IS PUBLISHED TO ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES BY THE END OF DECEMBER IS USED FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR OF SCHOOL CONCURRENCY APPLICATIONS.

SO WE'RE CONSISTENTLY USING THE SAME PROJECTION NUMBERS AND THE SAME CAPACITY NUMBERS UNTIL THE NEXT DECEMBER.

ALL RIGHT. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THIS. THESE EXPANSIONS HAVE BEEN FUNDED.

THERE BE BREAKING GROUND SOON OR IS IT A PIPE DREAM? YES. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE THE SUNRISE K-8 IS IS STILL IN THE WORKS, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S 100% FUNDED. WEST SIDE. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? WERE YOU A TEACHER? I'M NOT A TEACHER.

YOU'D MAKE A GOOD TEACHER. OKAY. THANK YOU. PLANNER.

OKAY. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE TWO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON KCB 24 004 AND CPC 24 002.

THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ALL IN FAVOR? OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK AGAINST THIS REQUEST? SIR. GO AHEAD. DO YOU HAVE A CARD? OKAY. THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD. STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD. MAY I ASK THAT WE TURN IT BACK TO THE SLIDE HE WAS ASKING ABOUT? OH, YEAH. WELL, THIS ONE WILL DO FINE RIGHT HERE.

IS THIS A LASER POINTER AS WELL AS A FLIPPER TOP BUTTON? OH. OH. WELL, OKAY. THAT'LL WORK. OKAY. ROGER ADAMS 968 ULSTER AVENUE SOUTHEAST. MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN THE FOURTH UNIT OFF OF UNION HERE. THAT'S THE CORNER LOT.

THAT'S THE SECOND LOT. THIRD. AND WE'RE ON THE FOURTH LOT THERE.

AND THE THE PLOT MAP THAT WAS SHOWN.

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WE RECOGNIZE FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION. THAT THESE FOLKS GAVE US.

AND BASICALLY THAT PLOT MAP ILLUSTRATES THAT THE SIR, CAN YOU STAY AT THE PODIUM? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

SORRY. THE THE TWO ACCESS ROADS THAT MAKE A HORSESHOE THROUGH THE PROPOSED AREA THE OH, FANTASTIC. SOMEBODY'S DOING THAT. YES.

PERFECT. SO, IF I MAY, PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS JUST A VERY ROUGH CONCEPT.

PLAN HAS NEVER BEEN SHOWN TO STAFF. IT HAS NOT BEEN REVIEWED.

SO JUST PLEASE BE AWARE OF THAT. OH, WELL. THANK YOU.

I FEEL BETTER ALREADY. THE THE UPPER CONNECTION ON THE HORSESHOE THERE TO ILLUSTRATE WHERE WE LIVE. WE LIVE BASICALLY RIGHT THERE ON THAT FOURTH.

COME ON. LASER. OH, I'M ON THE WRONG ONE HERE.

I GOT THE RIGHT BUTTON NOW. OKAY, SO RIGHT HERE, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S RIGHT THERE AT ONE OF THE EGRESS AND INGRESS LOCATIONS FROM THE PROPOSED UNREVIEWED PROPOSED PLAN OUT ON A LITTLE DINKY ULSTER AVENUE.

NOW ULSTER AVENUE IS 20FT WIDE. UNION AVENUE THE ONE RIGHT UP HERE THAT ULSTER T'S OFF OF IS A WHOPPING 22FT WIDE.

SIMILAR WITH UNDERHILL BACK HERE. SO SO YOU NEED TO WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS.

YOU HAVE 30S. OH MY GOODNESS. OKAY. AS, AS AS ANYONE LIVING RIGHT WHERE WE LIVE CAN ATTEST THE FLOW OUT OF THESE 100, 102 TOWNHOMES THAT IS ILLUSTRATED HERE.

WOULD TOTALLY OVERWHELM THE AREA, EVEN IN THE BEST OF TIMES.

WHAT ABOUT EVACUATION CONDITIONS UNDER A HURRICANE OR SOME OTHER NATURAL OR MAN MADE DISASTER THAT REQUIRES PEOPLE TO EVACUATE INLAND TO GET AWAY FROM THE HURRICANE, ETC.? NOT IT'S NOT JUST SAN FILIPPO AND GETTING OFF SAN FILIPPO.

THAT'S A PROBLEM. THE CHOKE POINTS ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT THERE ON ULSTER AVENUE.

OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. TIME'S UP. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MA'AM. GO AHEAD. SIR. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD? DIFFERENT.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ROBERT BOUDREAU. I LIVE AT 1301 SAHARA STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA. I HAPPEN TO BE AT THE END OF ULCER, WHERE IT MERGES WITH SAHARA.

I HAVE DEVELOPED A NICKNAME FOR THIS PROJECT.

I'M CALLING IT AN ULCER. LIKE AN ULCER IN A BODY.

THE ULCER. AN ULCER AVENUE. IT'S A VERY CONTENTIOUS PROPOSAL TO HAVE A HIGH DENSITY OF TOWNHOMES BE PLACED IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

NOW, A LOT OF THESE HOMES HAVE A QUARTER ACRE, THIRD OF AN ACRE, OR EVEN A HALF AN ACRE OF LAND.

NOW, TO PUT THIS HIGH DENSITY 102 115 THEY'RE SAYING TONIGHT, BACK IN DECEMBER, IT WAS 102 TOWNHOUSES. THE MAXIMUM MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE CANNOT BE OVER TEN UNITS, AS WAS MY UNDERSTANDING BACK IN DECEMBER.

OKAY. I WANT TO POINT OUT ON SAN FILIPPO. THERE IS A NEW

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DEVELOPMENT ONLY ABOUT A THIRD MILE AWAY. IT HAS.

IT'S CALLED OCEAN BREEZE. I CHECK WITH GROWTH MANAGEMENT.

THERE ARE 265 UNITS IN THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.

IT'S LIKE A IT'S A MINI CITY THAT WAS CREATED THERE OVERLOOKING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. IT'S LIKE A IT'S FOUR STORIES.

IN THIS CASE, IT'S ONLY TWO STORIES, BUT IT WOULD BE LIKE GIVING UP YOUR PRIVACY AND HAVING A DRONE OVER YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PRIVACY. THERE'S NO WAY IN HECK THAT YOU'RE EVER GOING TO BUILD A FENCE BIG ENOUGH.

OKAY. IT'S A NICE, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.

LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF SPACES IN BETWEEN THE HOMES IS SPREAD OUT REAL NICE.

IT'S VERY QUIET. I DID SPEAK, SPEAK TO FOUR REALTORS.

TWO THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY. PERSONALLY. AND THEY ALL ADVISE ME IT WILL LOWER THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THE EXISTING HOMES.

IT STANDS TO REASON. THANK YOU SIR. IF YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY THAT I GO TO.

THREE MINUTES ALREADY. YES, I'M TRYING TO BE QUICK.

QUICK. OKAY. THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN SAY NOW. BUT WE DID HAVE A PROTEST MEETING BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 40 PEOPLE THERE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO SIGN THE REGISTER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE ELSE? CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF HIM REAL QUICK? CAN I HAVE A QUESTION? WAS THERE A NO? OKAY. WHAT'S HAPPENING? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION. OH. IS THERE A MEETING TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS? BACK IN FEBRUARY, THEY SAID. ALL RIGHT. YES. THERE WAS A PARTICIPATION MEETING.

PARDON ME. DID YOU GO TO THE MEETING? THEY HAD TO. PARTICIPATION MEETING WHERE THEIR CONCERNS AIRED IN FEBRUARY, I THINK. SORRY, MY MIC IS NOT ON.

WAS THERE A MEETING IN FEBRUARY WHERE THE CONCERNS WERE AIRED, OR IS THAT.

WAS THAT? AM I IMAGINING THINGS THERE? THERE WAS ONE.

OKAY. JUST ASKING IF YOU WENT TO THE. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR.

JUST ASKING IF YOU WAS THERE A MEETING FOR THIS? NO. OKAY. YES, SIR. NO, IT WAS BACK IN DECEMBER.

OH, YEAH. THERE WAS. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I WASN'T AWARE.

OH. OH, YEAH. AND THEN, OF COURSE, TRAFFIC STUDY SNOWBIRDS ON HERE.

IT'S VERY QUIET NOW. HOW CAN YOU REALLY DO A TRAFFIC STUDY? COME ON. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KIMBERLY EVERS. I'M AT 1357 ALCAZAR STREET, RIGHT ON THE SOUTH END OF WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE.

AND THE TRAFFIC. LIKE THEY HAD SAID BEFORE, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED SEVERAL APPLICATIONS.

MANY LETTERS WERE SENT IN FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.

LIKE SHE SAID, FOR TWO YEARS, SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE AREA HAVE SUBMITTED LETTERS, PHONE CALLS, EMAILS. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT IS COMPILED IN WITH THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE IT LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT THEY HAD CONDUCTED WAS DONE IN.

WE HAVE PHOTOS OF THE CAMERAS UP. IT WAS DONE IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER.

SO THE SCHOOL TRAFFIC WAS NOT IN AS WAS STATED, THE SNOWBIRDS WERE NOT DOWN HERE.

AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE MAP, THE AREA IS ALL SINGLE FAMILY, ONE STORY HOMES.

SO PUTTING TWO STORY HOMES IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL FOUR SIDES ARE SINGLE FAMILY, ONE STORY HOMES, AND WITH 116 TOWNHOMES, THAT'S GOING TO BRING TWO TWO CARS PER HOME, APPROXIMATELY ANOTHER 230 CARS IN THE AREA. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TRIED TO DRIVE SAN FILIPPO IN THE MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON, BUT TRYING TO PULL OUT OF ALCAZAR STREET, YOU HAVE TO SIT THERE FOR A GOOD 5 TO 10 MINUTES JUST TO GET OUT ONTO SAN FILIPPO, AND THAT'S MAKING A RIGHT HAND TURN TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. MY SON IS IN COLOMBIA. I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT THAT SCHOOL IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY.

AND WITH THE KIDS WHERE THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED, THEY'RE IN A WALK ZONE.

SO THAT'S ADDING THAT MANY MORE CARS TO THE AREA.

WHEN WE ARE LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM COLUMBIA ELEMENTARY, WITH ALL THE CHILDREN WALKING TO AND FROM SCHOOL EVERY DAY.

I ALSO DON'T KNOW IF AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY HAS BEEN DONE THERE, BUT THE PROPERTY IS FILLED WITH GOPHER TORTOISES,

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PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF GOPHER TORTOISES. SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT THE MAIN CONCERN OF YOU GUYS AS STUFF IS GETTING CLEARED, BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT LOOKED INTO ALSO THAT THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF THE GOPHER TORTOISES THERE AND A AN ACTUAL TRAFFIC STUDY DONE DURING SCHOOL HOURS AND WHEN THE SNOWBIRDS ARE HERE.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ELSE? MR. BATTEN? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. THE FIRST STATEMENT I'D PUT ON THIS ONE WAS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF MONEY TO TO PUT AN EFFORT INTO OUR COMP PLAN.

SO NOW THE FIRST THING WE'RE SEEING IS FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME IN.

WE WANT TO CHANGE THE COMP PLAN. I'M GREATLY AGAINST THAT WHEN THEY'RE CHANGING THE COMP PLAN FOR HIGHER DENSITY.

THEN YOU START LOOKING AT I KNOW IT WAS JUST A PRELIMINARY DRAWING SHOWED THE PRELIMINARY DRAWING, WHICH WAS NOT IN THE PACKET AT ALL, SO HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THERE.

I LOOKED AT THAT YOUR. SPECULATION OF WHAT MIGHT COME DRAWING.

I SHOWED NOTHING OF WHERE THE WETLANDS WERE THAT HAVE TO BE PROTECTED.

THE WETLANDS AUTOMATICALLY TAKE OUT WHAT THEY SAY 2.5 ACRES OUT OF THE TEN ACRES.

SO THAT'S GONE FROM THERE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE PROPOSALS.

THE NEXT THING IS FOR THE BUILDER THEMSELVES, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THAT THEY MAKE SURE THEY TELL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING IN THERE THAT THEIR THEIR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO STONE SCHOOL IN MELBOURNE, THAT'D BE A VERY NICE THING TO SELL.

I HAVE A FEELING THAT MIGHT IMPACT ON THE NUMBER OF SALES THEY GOT.

AND THE LAST ONE IS OR SECOND TO LAST ONE. THE CITY OF PALM BAY DOES NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO BE REVIEWING THE ENGINEERING STATUS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM THE PROPOSALS.

SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW WAS THAT HAPPENING? SINCE THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO WAS REVIEWING THEIR STATEMENTS? AND THE LAST ONE IS THEY SAY THERE'S NO THERE'S GOING TO BE NO BUDGET IMPACT WITH A DRAWING LIKE THIS FOR ANYTHING.

DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IT IS, IF WE INCREASE THE POPULATION, WE HAVE TO INCREASE THE POLICE.

WE HAVE AN INCREASE IN POPULATION. THAT MEANS WE HAVE TO INCREASE ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ALSO.

AND BOTH OF THEM ARE UNDERSTAFFED AND UNDERFUNDED RIGHT NOW.

SO IF YOU SAY THERE SHOWS NO BUDGET IMPACT, I'M SORRY TO SAY THERE IS A BUDGET IMPACT ON THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NEVER EQUAL WHAT IS GOING TO BE REQUIRED FOR US TO MATCH THAT OUT, FOR FUNDING FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? GOOD EVENING. PAT DAPPER, 410 GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF PULL THIS TOGETHER. I'M HERE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1978, SO I'VE SEEN QUITE A BIT GO ON SINCE THEN.

SO IS PETE. I WORKED FOR THE CITY TILL 1989, AND DURING THAT TIME, GDC WAS TRULY PART OF THE CITY. SO WHEN SO AND SO SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT GDC WAS DOING, I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE PLOTS OF LAND WERE FOR GREEN SPACE PARKS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

THINK WHEN GDC WENT UNDER, THAT LEFT A BIG VOID.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE AT THAT TIME THE CITY REALLY HAD A PLAN FOR PROPER SMART GROWTH.

AND WE THEREFORE HAVE AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND A PROBLEM WITH LACK OF BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL ALL NEGLECTED FOR 20, 30 YEARS. SO NOW WE ARE STRUGGLING. SO ALL THESE LITTLE PLOTS OF LAND THAT THE DEVELOPERS WANT TO COME IN AND BUILD, BECAUSE IT'S NOT BENEFICIAL TO HAVE EMPTY LAND, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED.

IT NEEDS TO HAVE SOMETHING ON IT. SO THE REASON WHY I GOT INVOLVED IN THIS, WE HAD A DEVELOPER COME IN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OFF OF FALLON WHO WANTED TO BUILD, TOLD THE WOMAN THEY'RE GOING TO BUY THE LAND AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD NICE HOMES.

SO IT WAS RESIDENTIAL. WELL, TURNS OUT THEY LIED TO HER.

CAME BACK AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN 180 MULTIFAMILY UNITS.

THEREFORE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DECIDED TO PUT TOGETHER A POWERPOINT.

AND THANKFULLY, IT WAS DENIED. THERE WERE 3 OR 4 OTHER SAME SITUATION IN THAT AREA.

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THEY WERE ALL DENIED. SO I'M BRINGING THIS TO YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT IT'S GOING TO MAKE TO ALL NEIGHBORS.

THIS NOT JUST HERE, BUT THERE'S THE NEXT PROJECT THAT'S COMING UP.

THERE'S ANOTHER PROJECT OUT WEST OFF OF PACE THAT HASN'T COME BACK YET.

THESE ARE CALLED INFILL DEVELOPMENTS, WHERE THEY CRAM AS MUCH INTO THAT LITTLE DEVELOPMENT OR LITTLE PLOT OF LAND AS POSSIBLE, WHETHER IT'S APARTMENTS, COMPLEX CONDOS, TOWNHOUSES, RESIDENTIAL AND SMALLER LOTS.

WE CAN'T DO THAT. CAN YOU WRAP IT UP? YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU. LITA. YOU'RE WONDERFUL. I'LL FINISH THAT THE NEXT TIME.

ANYONE ELSE? SIR? IN THE BACK. YEAH. I'M SORRY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. I'M JUST DOING ON MY CLOCK.

GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M DAVID GERING, 1374 WADE STREET.

OKAY. ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS WAS THAT NOBODY'S TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF SWITCHING OVER FROM MY SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT I JUST BOUGHT THREE YEARS AGO TO SEWERS AND WATER. NOW. AND I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT COMMENTS ABOUT THIS BEING UPWARDS OF $20,000.

I JUST BOUGHT A NET ZERO HOME. NOW I'M GOING TO BE TOLD I'M FORCED TO PAY A BUNCH OF MONEY THAT I DON'T WANT TO PAY.

MAKES NO SENSE TO ME. AND LIKE EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, THE TRAFFIC IS CRAZY.

YOU CAN GO EVEN DURING THE NIGHT, SOMETIMES UP AND DOWN SAN FILIPPO, AND IT'S HARD TO GET OFF YOUR STREET, LET ALONE DURING 8:00 IN THE MORNING WHEN ALL THE PARENTS ARE TAKING THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL.

THAT'S ALL I HAD TO SAY. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ANYTHING DIFFERENT? MA'AM? IN THE BACK.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KATIE. I LIVE AT 1374 WADE STREET SOUTHEAST.

PALM BAY. I WANTED TO REITERATE ON THE PUBLIC SERVICES WITH THE POLICE AND THE FIRE.

YEAH, HE SHOWED A GREAT PICTURE OF THAT. RIGHT.

I DID MY INTERNSHIP WITH THE BREVARD COUNTY. WHEN ONE RESCUE THAT IS TYPICALLY ONLY AT A HOUSE.

IF THEY'RE LUCKY TO HAVE AN AMBULANCE AT THEIR LOCATION, IS OUT ON A RESCUE.

THE NEXT CLOSEST ONE COMES IN THAT MAY BE 1520 MILES AWAY.

WITHIN SIX MINUTES YOU END UP WITH BRAIN DEATH IF YOU HAVE A STROKE OR A HEART ATTACK.

WITH THE INCREASING AMOUNT OF POPULATION, WE'RE SPREADING THIN ON HOW MUCH SERVICES WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THESE HOUSES.

NOT JUST HIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT HOW ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT JUST AS NORTH OF US, YOU KNOW? SO I'M LOOKING AT LIKE THE COST OF HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO BE TO EXPAND THAT SERVICE AND ALSO THE COST OF OUR HEALTH.

THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAD TO SAY WAS MORE OR LESS ABOUT LIKE, OUR SAFETY AND OUR WELL-BEING, BECAUSE A POLICE OFFICER ONLY HAS AN EMR, WHICH IS EMERGENCY MEDICAL RESPONSE, BASIC EMT SKILLS, THEY DO NOT HAVE ITEMS ON THEIR PERSON TO BE ABLE TO RESCUE SOMEONE IF THERE IS A STREAM EMERGENCY.

NOT JUST YOUR BASICS. THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. DID YOU FILL OUT A CARD, MA'AM? YOU NEED TO FILL OUT A CARD FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? ONE MORE. SIR. HI, MY NAME IS LOU BONIFACIO. I LIVE AT 2961 FISHER AVENUE SOUTHEAST. AND I'M HERE BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPER IS ALSO GOING TO BE DEVELOPING OTHER PLOTS.

AND OUR PLOT THAT I'M GOING TO BE SPEAKING ABOUT IS OASIS, AND WE'RE RIGHT OFF OF SAN FILIPPO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON YOUR AGENDA IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SIR, CAN YOU IT'S THIS CASE ONLY IT'S IT PERTAINS TO THIS CASE.

OKAY. BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPER IS DEVELOPING SEVERAL PLOTS IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA.

AND THE THE DEVELOPMENT, LIKE IN OUR AREA IS 160 SOME ODD HOMES HERE YOU HAVE 115.

AND HERE ARE THE LATEST STUDY. THE SCHOOL BOARD DID A STUDY TO SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE SCHOOLS.

BUT HOW ABOUT THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING WITHIN THE SAME TIME PERIOD.

PLUS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT, THE HOMES THAT ARE BEING DEVELOPED IN THE AREA.

ALSO, YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE WHEN YOU'RE DOING A STUDY, NOT JUST THE ONE DEVELOPMENT, AND SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO IMPACT A COUPLE SCHOOLS AND THE TRAFFIC ALSO THE MAIN ARTERIES OF,

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OF TRANSPORTATION IS GOING TO BE BABCOCK NORTH AND SOUTH, AND HE HAS SAN FILIPPO.

YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND ALL THE WAY. THIS WAY OR SAN FILIPPO ALONG WHERE GOES BETWEEN YOU KNOW, HOW IT'S SHAPED LIKE A U. SO THEY'RE THE ONLY TWO NORTH AND SOUTH ARTERIES, REALLY.

IT'S GOING TO HANDLE ALL THAT TRAFFIC. AND IF YOU TRAVEL DOWN SAN FILIPPO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF HOMES BEING DEVELOPED.

AND THAT SHOULD ALSO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THESE DEVELOPMENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT HIGH DENSITY LIVING. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TEN UNITS PER ACRE.

THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE. AND IT DOESN'T COINCIDE WITH ALL THEIR OTHER RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN THE AREA.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME GREENERY. IT'D BE NICE TO EVEN DEVELOP SOME PARKS.

THE CITY WOULD BE WELL ADVISED TO DO SOME OF THAT.

ALL YOU SEE IS HOMES. YOU DON'T SEE ANY AREAS, RECREATION AREAS FOR THE CHILDREN TO PLAY THERE ON THE STREET ALL THE TIME.

I THINK IT'D BE WISE FOR THE CITY. LIKE ONE INDIVIDUAL SAID, THAT THESE PARCELS OF LAND WERE SET ASIDE FOR SCHOOLS, FOR PARKS OR SOMETHING TO THAT SORT BECAUSE THEY WERE THINKING AHEAD.

AND NOW THIS SEEMS LIKE ALL THE IMPETUS IS ALL MASS DEVELOPMENT MORE HOMES, MORE HOMES, MORE TRAFFIC, MORE TRAFFIC. SO I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST IT. AND THERE'S OTHER THIS DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPING OTHER SITES ALONG SAN FELIPE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE BUT THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN. KIM ROZANKA LACY ROZANKA ON BEHALF OF SANKOFA AND ACTUALLY THE PROPERTY OWNER, DAVID MCCALLUM. JUST A FEW COMMENTS TO RESPOND TO CLARIFY FROM THE RESIDENTS.

THE THE ULSTER ROAD IS A 55. IT'S A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

IT MAY ONLY BE 20FT OF PAVEMENT, BUT IT'S A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IT CAN BE EXPANDED, SIDEWALKS CAN BE PUT IN.

IT'S A STANDARD RIGHT OF WAY FOR ROADS. PEOPLE PUT THEIR DRIVEWAY THROUGH IT SO THEY THINK IT'S THEIRS, BUT IT'S NOT. SO THERE'S THERE'S MORE ROOM THERE.

THE TRAFFIC GENERATED DOES MEET THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.

WE HAVEN'T SEEN WHATEVER YOU HAVE FROM YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER THAT WAS NOT PROVIDED TO US, SO WE CAN'T COMMENT ON THAT.

BUT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER DID PROVIDE A TRANSPORTATION STATEMENT.

THE PLAN IS STILL 102 UNITS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A ZONING FOR 102 UNITS.

IT'S ACTUALLY 8.7 UNITS PER ACRE, NOT TEN UNITS PER ACRE.

THE TRAFFIC, THE TRUE TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

TIA, WITH THE TRAFFIC COUNTS DONE OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL TIMES WILL BE DONE SHOULD THIS REZONING BE APPROVED.

AND SHOULD WE GET TO SITE PLAN? THAT IS WHEN IT SHOULD BE DONE.

AND THAT'S WHAT EVERY OTHER CITY REQUIRES AND THAT'S WHEN THAT WOULD BE DONE.

WE ARE NOT ASKING TO CHANGE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT.

IT'S JUST A TEXT AMENDMENT. CURRENTLY, THE PSP IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING.

IT HAS TO BE CHANGED TO SOMETHING. WE'RE NOT WILLING TO LET IT GO TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF YOUR ALTERNATE PLAN IF YOU CHOOSE TO DENY OUR REQUEST.

THE CONCEPT PLAN WAS INDEED IN THE PACKET THAT WAS IN YOUR IN YOUR 100 PAGES.

IT WAS WITH THE CITIZENS PARTICIPATION REPORT.

SO IT WAS IN THERE REGARDING WETLANDS. IF THEY'RE FUNCTIONAL WETLANDS, YES, THEY SHOULD BE PROTECTED.

BUT WETLANDS IN THIS CITY IN THIS JURISDICTION CAN BE MITIGATED.

THE STATEMENT REGARDING NO IMPACT TO THE BUDGET THAT WAS ALSO AGREED TO BY THE CITY, AND REGARDING WHETHER OR NOT THIS WILL IMPACT PARKS. RECREATION.

RECREATION. FIRE. POLICE. THERE ARE IMPACT FEES FOR EACH UNIT THAT WILL BE PAID.

THAT HAS BEEN INCREASING. I BELIEVE IT STARTED THIS YEAR AND FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO THAT'S INTENDED TO HELP WITH THE IMPACTS TO THE CITY.

IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED AND IF IT IMPACTS GREATER EITHER SCHOOLS OR TRAFFIC, THEY HAVE TO PAY GREATER THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR PROPORTIONATE FAIR SHARE.

PALM BAY SOUTH PALM BAY. AS YOU ARE WELL AWARE, THERE IS SOME PROBLEMS WITH SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, SO THE DEVELOPERS ARE ALL MEETING TO PAY MONEY OR GIVE LAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.

TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE DEVELOPERS DO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.

EVERY DEVELOPMENT LOOKS AT THE PRIOR DEVELOPMENTS APPROVED.

EVERY DEVELOPMENT HAS TO TAKE CARE OF IMPACTS IT MAKES, SO THOSE WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

YOUR CITY DOES VERY MUCH PROTECT THAT DOES, AS DOES THE SCHOOL BOARD AS DOES FDOT.

SO ALL IMPACTS MUST BE ACCOUNTED FOR. AND WITH THAT, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR THE SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT TO MEDIUM DENSITY

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AND THE ZONING TO RT TEN. THANK YOU. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

GO AHEAD SIR. WHAT IS A FUNCTIONAL WETLAND? A FUNCTIONAL WETLAND IS HOW THE THE STATE OR THE.

IT MEANS THAT IT'S CONNECTED TO OTHER WETLANDS, AND IT PROVIDES A LOT OF DRAINAGE THROUGHOUT A LONG SYSTEM.

SO THIS SEEMS TO BE AN ISOLATED WETLAND. I'M NOT AN ENVIRONMENTALIST. THERE IS A REPORT IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS THIS.

BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SAINT JOHN'S. YEAH.

IT'S FUNCTIONAL VERSUS NONFUNCTIONAL. IT'S CALLED A UNUM.

YEAH. IT'S IT'S VERY COMMON IN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD.

AND THEY ACTUALLY THEY EVALUATE IT. THEY COME OUT AND THEY SAY, OH THIS IS A 0.4.

THIS IS 0.6. THIS IS GOOD. THIS IS BAD. THIS IS FUNCTIONAL.

NON FUNCTIONAL. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. IT MEANS IT FUNCTIONS.

IT MAKES WATER FLOW THROUGH. IT HELPS THE ENVIRONMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST ONE QUESTION.

I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY YOU. YOU'RE COMPLETELY.

YOU AND MR. MOALLEM ARE COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THE ALTERNATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS.

THE MY MY CLIENT IS. I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MOALLEM IS HERE, SO.

OKAY, I CAN'T, I MEAN, FOR FOR SANKOFA. YES. BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO TOWNHOMES RIGHT NOW.

NOTHING CAN BE BUILT HERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO UTILITIES TO THIS SITE.

SO NOTHING CAN BE BUILT. IT'S IT'S A IT'S A FUNCTIONAL TAKING BECAUSE NOTHING CAN BE BUILT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND THE CASE IS BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD.

BOARD? DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR A MOTION? I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS.

RIGHT. SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DENY CP 2400004.

I CAN LIST OUT MY REASONS IF YOU SHOULD NEED.

OR WE CAN GO IN DISCUSSION AND I'LL EXPAND. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.

YEAH. I MEAN, I'LL KEEP IT AS CONCISE AS POSSIBLE.

NOTE SEVEN ON THE FUNCTIONAL ANALYSIS, THE CITY REPORTS THAT IT WILL IMPACT WILL DOUBLE THE DENSITY.

AND THERE'S NO COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA. EIGHT THERE'S NO TRANSIT.

THERE'S NO SMOOTH TRANSITION BETWEEN LOW DENSITY TO NOW HIGH DENSITY, WHICH IS STATED FROM THE STAFF AS FAR AS THE IMPACT ON LOCAL SERVICES.

IT'S NOT JUST IT'S NOT REALISTIC FOR AS FAR AS STONE, BUT FOR COLUMBIA.

AND WHEN CONSIDERING I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN CONSIDER THAT HERE, BUT WHEN CONSIDERING OTHER PROJECTS AND SURROUNDING AREAS, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT REALISTIC.

AND ALSO FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY FROM THE THAT WE PROVIDED FROM THE CITY, THE, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME INFORMATION, UNLESS I'M READING THIS WRONG, WILL BE IMPACTED AND WILL BE EXCEEDED.

SO I DON'T SEE HOW THIS PROJECT ABSOLVES THEM OR ANYTHING.

THEY'VE ANY RESPONSES THEY'VE GIVEN AT THIS POINT OVER THIS LAST TWO YEAR PROJECT ABSOLVES THEM OF ANY OF THAT.

SO THAT IS WHY MY DENIAL THAT I LISTED THAT CORRECTLY.

THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT MY SECOND IS BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS AS WELL.

MR. FILIBERTO. SURE. SO I'M GOING TO BE IN AGREEANCE WITH WITH THE MOTION LOOKING AT THE FOUR THINGS TRAFFIC, PUBLIC SAFETY, UTILITY AND SCHOOLS SCHOOLS HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

WE DID WE? I KNOW THE APPLICANT DISCUSSED INFILL DEVELOPMENT QUITE A BIT.

BE IT BEING GOING TO COLLEGE DOWN IN MIAMI, WE WERE VERY FAMILIAR WITH INFILL DEVELOPMENT.

HOWEVER, TO COUNTERACT YOUR YOUR ARGUMENT THE SURROUNDING AREAS ONLY, WHAT, 40% VACANT.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THAT AREA.

COMPATIBILITY. FLORIDA STATE STATUTE 163.31699.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD BE CONSISTENT OR COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

IT BEING TOWNHOMES AMONGST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

AND JUST FOR FUTURE IF SCHOOLS DO GO UP YOU KNOW, MORE SCHOOLING AND MORE CRITERIA IS MET.

I FEEL THAT THIS COULD BE A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SIR. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM BOARD? OKAY. CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL? SAY AYE. AYE AYE AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION IS DENIED.

OKAY. THE NEXT CASE HAS ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED BY STAFF.

IT'S THE COMPANION CASE CPC 24 00002. I'D LIKE TO MOTION JUST A MINUTE.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? HI. DEBBIE FLYNN, SENIOR PLANNER.

I'M ALSO A TRANSPORTATION PLANNER, AND I JUST WANT TO PUT ON RECORD THAT THE.

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WE DO HAVE A TRAFFIC ENGINEER. WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT NAMED IS WITH CONSORT ENGINEERING.

AND ON YOUR PAPER ANU WAS THE ENGINEER THAT REVIEWED THIS PROJECT.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON RECORD. THANK YOU.

MADAM. DOES THE APPLICANT OR JUST A QUESTION FOR STAFF? AND IT WAS AN IS A CONTRACTOR OR IS IT STAFF? SHE IS WITH CANCER. OKAY. CONSULTING. AND THEY ARE CONSULTING TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

WE HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING FOR A TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR A WHILE.

SO IF THERE'S ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE. SO WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR ONE FOR ON STAFF FOR FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND YET WE ARE. WE DO HAVE SECURED A CONSULTANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING FOR THE SEAT? THIS CASE, CBC 24 0002. OKAY. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE TWO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS COMPANION CASE.

WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE ON THIS, SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION OR MOTION.

I MOTION TO DENY CPC 2400002 ON THE. I CAN LIST THE SAME CRITERIA AS THE FIRST ONE.

OKAY. SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL? AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. IT'S DENIED.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.

IF YOU WERE HERE FOR THIS CASE AND YOU'D LIKE TO LEAVE, PLEASE DO SO QUIETLY SO WE CAN CONTINUE.

OKAY, EVERYONE, WE'RE GOING TO RESUME THIS PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING.

IF EVERYBODY COULD TAKE THEIR SEATS. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PRESENTATION FROM THE STAFF FOR TWO CASES, CPC 25 0003 AND THE COMPANION CASE Z 25 0003. MISS FLYNN? YES. GOOD EVENING, DEBBIE FLYNN, SENIOR PLANNER.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT THE LAND USE CHANGE AND ZONE.

THE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE TONIGHT FOR CENTER POINT SUBDIVISION.

CENTER POINT. CHURCH IS REQUESTING TO ALLOW FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR 2.8 ACRE PARCEL AND A ZONE CHANGE FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SIZE TWO FOR TEN ACRE PARCEL FOR 41 SINGLE FAMILY LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.

THE PROPOSED CENTER POINT SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED AT NORTHEAST CORNER OF EMERALD ROAD AND SOUTHEAST AND MIRAGE AVENUE SOUTHEAST AND NORTH OF EMERALD ROAD. SOUTHEAST. SOUTH OF VALOR DRIVE. SOUTHEAST.

THE TOTAL SITE AND FOR THE 2.8 ACRES AND THE TEN ACRES IS 12.8 ACRES IN SIZE.

THE LAND USE AMENDMENT IS PROPOSED FOR 2.8 ACRE PSP PARCEL TO CHANGE ITS DESIGNATION TO LOW DENSITY, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF EIGHT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.

AS YOU CAN SEE UP HERE, LET ME USE MY POINTER UP HERE.

THE EIGHT LOTS IS ASKING FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE, AND WHEN I GET TO THE ZONE, CHANGE ON THE NEXT PAGE.

OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT. THE ZONE CHANGE, IF I CAN GET IT TO WORK, IS FOR THE TEN ACRE LOT.

SO THE TEN ACRE LOT LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CURRENTLY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE SMALLER LOT WANTS TO CHANGE THEIR LAND USE TO.

AND THE CURRENT ZONE IS EXCUSE ME, IS RS TWO FOR THE SMALL LOT.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE, THE TEN ACRE LOT FOR THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL WOULD LIKE TO GO TO.

THERE WAS A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PLAN MEETING HELD ON APRIL 23RD AND JUNE 16TH.

THERE WAS MISTAKEN PERCEPTION OF WHAT THIS PROJECT WAS.

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SO THEY HAD TO GO BACK AND INFORM THE RESIDENTS THAT THERE WAS AN EIGHT LOT CHANGE AND A 33 LOT CHANGE.

WITH THE ZONE CHANGE AND A LAND USE CHANGE, IT WASN'T PRESENTED CORRECTLY, SO THEY WENT BACK AND PRESENTED IT AGAIN.

AND THIS WAS HELD AT MEE-MAW'S BARBECUE. PUBLIC NOTIFICATIONS HAS WENT OUT AND THE BOARD ACTION IS NEEDED FOR THIS PROJECT.

PROJECTS. SITE HAS REVIEWED THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS OUTLINED IN SECTION 172 021C AND 172 022E FOR THE LAND USE AND THE ZONE CHANGE WHICH SUPPORTS THE REQUEST, WHICH SUPPORTS THE REQUESTED FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND ZONE CHANGE. THE PROPOSED CENTREPOINTE DEVELOPMENT ALIGNS WITH THE CITY GOALS AND MARKET NEEDS.

BOTH AMENDMENTS SUPPORT INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE URBAN SERVICE AREA.

PROMOTING EFFICIENT USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

BOTH PARCELS SERVED BY EXISTING ROADS. CENTRALIZED WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS. TRAFFIC ANALYSIS CONFIRMED THAT THE 41 HOMES WILL NOT DEGRADE THE ROADWAY CAPACITY OF LEVEL OF SERVICE ON EMERSON DRIVE OR SURROUNDING CORRIDORS.

UTILITY CONNECTIONS DESIGNED TO MEET AND EXCEED CITY STANDARDS FOR PRESSURE, VOLUME AND RELIABILITY, FIRE PROTECTION AND PUBLIC SAFETY STANDARDS WILL BE MET DURING THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE TOTAL PROJECTED STUDENT ENROLLMENT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS NO WETLANDS, FLOOD HAZARDS OR HISTORICAL RESOURCES ON EITHER PARCEL.

THE REZONING FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RS2 PROVIDES A LOGICAL TRANSITION BETWEEN THE LARGER RS ONE AREAS AND THE DENSER RS2 NEIGHBORHOODS, SUPPORTING THE GRADUAL DENSITY CHANGES AND NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER PRESERVATION.

THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE RS2 DESIGNATIONS ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING ZONING AND LAND USE IN THE VICINITY.

AVOIDING SPOT ZONING CONCERNS. BOTH AMENDMENTS FOSTER A COMMUNITY CHARACTER THAT IS CONSISTENT, COMPATIBLE, AND THRIVING. IT'S FULLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES, ENSURING EFFICIENT LAND USE, INFRASTRUCTURE ADEQUACY, PUBLIC SAFETY, EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

THEREFORE, REGARDING ALL THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS THAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE APPLICANT AND STAFF'S RESPONSE IN THE STAFF REPORT, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR BOTH REQUESTS BASED THROUGH THE ANALYSIS AND POLICY ALIGNMENT.

THIS IS THE SURVEY THAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE PROJECT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

THIS IS THE EIGHT LOT AREA FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE.

AND THIS IS THE 33 LOT AREA FOR THE ZONE CHANGE.

THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP MAP AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

THE CHANGES SUPPORT EFFICIENT LAND USE, PROMOTE CAPABLE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, AND UTILIZE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT ADVERSE IMPACTS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES OR THE ENVIRONMENT.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BASED ON THESE FINDINGS.

AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE TWO CASES. IT'S CP 25 0003 FOR THE LAND USE CHANGE, AND IT'S A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT FROM PSP, PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THE BOARD.

THE BOARD COULD EITHER RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL AS EARLIER.

IF YOU DO RECOMMEND DENIAL, YOU HAVE TO LIST THE REASON WHY PER THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS AND CASE Z 25 0003 IS A ZONE CHANGE FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION. AGAIN, THE BOARD SHALL RECOMMEND APPROVAL OR DENIAL.

IF YOU DO RECOMMEND DENIAL FOR THE ZONE CASE, PLEASE STATE FROM THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS WHY IT DOES NOT MEET THE PROJECT AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRESENT AS WELL. AND I'M HERE TO OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

SEEING NONE WITH THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD.

HELLO I'M BILL PRICE. I'M A OWNER AND CFO OF PRICE FAMILY HOMES.

FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW US, WE'RE JUST A SMALL LOCAL DEVELOPER AND BUILDER HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

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WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.

AND WE INTEND TO DEVELOP IT TO MEET THE STANDARDS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT'S AROUND IT.

JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, YOU KNOW, RANGING IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, 1800, 20 200FT².

JUST KIND OF MATCHING THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THERE. I REALLY APPRECIATE STAFF'S THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND COMMENTS, AND I REALLY HAVE NOTHING SUBSTANTIAL TO ADD.

THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU. FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? IN FAVOR, SIR. COME. COME FORWARD. DON'T BE SHY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE FIRST. GOOD EVENING. I'M VIRGINIA SIERRA.

I AM A MEMBER OF CENTER POINTE CHURCH AND HAVE BEEN FOR 17 YEARS.

I CURRENTLY SIT ON OUR BUILDING BOARD, AND ALSO ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE THE INTERIM CHILDREN'S DIRECTORS THERE.

SO FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO OUR PROPOSAL, BUT WE ARE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL TONIGHT.

OUR CHURCH HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR OVER 35 YEARS RIGHT HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

WE HAVE OWNED THIS LAND FOR OVER 25 YEARS RIGHT HERE IN BREVARD COUNTY.

AND WE ARE NEEDING THIS SO THAT WE CAN FURTHER OUR MINISTRY.

WE ARE CURRENTLY COMPACTED WITHIN OUR CURRENT BUILDING, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO SELL THIS LAND SO THAT WE CAN BUILD A NEW BUILDING ON OUR CURRENT LAND. THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN OUR CURRENT BUILDING INTO A CHILDREN'S AND YOUTH SPECIFIED CENTER, JUST FOR OUR CHILDREN AND YOUTH, AND TURN OUR NEW BUILDING INTO EXPANDED AREA SO WE CAN HAVE THAT FOR OUR CURRENT.

I WILL SAY THAT THE LAND NOW IS CURRENTLY FILLED WITH HOMELESS, AND SO WE ARE ALSO LOOKING FOR THAT TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR THAT TO HELP WITH SAFETY ISSUE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

WE HOLD A SUMMER CAMP EVERY SUMMER WITH OVER 500 CHILDREN IN ATTENDANCE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND WE ARE ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE STAFF ON SITE AND SECURITY ON SITE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SAFE DURING THAT TIME, BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT WE ARE UP AGAINST THAT, THAT HOLDS THOSE HOMELESS CAMPS.

AND SECONDLY, FOR THE CITY. CURRENTLY THIS LAND IS NOT TAXED AND THIS WOULD HOLD HOMES THAT WOULD NOW BE TAXED AND WOULD BE PAYING TAXES TO THE CITY.

SO IT WOULD BE A FINANCIAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY AS WELL.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR, SIR? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS STEVE PETTY. I AM A MEMBER AND PART OF THE BOARD AT CENTERPOINT CHURCH AS WELL, AND I'VE BEEN PART OF BUILDING PROGRAMS AT OTHER CHURCHES WHERE I HAVE BEEN ON STAFF AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT I FEEL THAT CENTERPOINT HAS TAKEN A VERY GOOD APPROACH IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND PLANNING TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY HERE.

PARTNERING WITH A BUILDER WHO WANTS TO BLEND IN WITH THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

AS YOU KNOW, JUST FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION, THERE WERE OTHER BUILDERS WHO HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH A HIGHER DENSITY VOLUME IN THAT AREA. BUT WE LIKE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE PART OF.

WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH THAT COMMUNITY AND TO WORK WITH THEM IN THAT.

WE ARE A CHURCH THAT HAS SEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN GROWTH.

AND TRY TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THE YEARS.

AND I FEEL VERY PROUD OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND FEEL THAT IN THIS STEP TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR CHURCH AS WELL.

WE ARE TRYING TO WORK IN HARMONY AND MEET EVERYBODY'S NEEDS AS BEST WE CAN IN THAT APPROACH.

SO APPRECIATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? WEST INDIAN THAT WISH TO OPPOSE THIS REQUEST.

MA'AM.

MY NAME IS RUTH KOFOED. I LIVE AT 935 DOUGLAS STREET, ONE BLOCK FROM THIS CHANGE.

AND I GOOD EVENING. BOARD, STAFF AND CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE THE CENTER POINT CHURCH'S SECOND ATTEMPT TO IMPOSE THEIR WANTS AND NEEDS OVER MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS THE FIRST ATTEMPT TO DO SO WITH 192 HOMES THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT THERE, AND WE GOT FINALLY GOT THAT REJECTED. THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT US IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE ADDED 300 CARS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS

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AND SURROUNDING AREA. SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE THAT THE CONCERN IS GENUINE.

SO ONE CONCERN THAT ONE OF MY FRIENDS HAD IS THAT AS ALL THIS BUILDING IS AS A WHOLE, DOES IT ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE HOSPITAL? CAN THE HOSPITAL HANDLE ALL THIS BUILDING? JUST A QUESTION. SO THE PACKAGE THAT YOU RECEIVED FOR THIS PROJECT HAS TWO PICTURES OF IT. SO OF THIS PROJECT IN IT.

SO WHICH PICTURE IS BEING DONE? THE PICTURE THAT I SAW WHEN I WENT TO THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING LOOKED LIKE THIS. OKAY, SO THERE'S NO THERE'S THERE HAS TO BE TWO AND OUTS THROUGH THIS WHOLE THING.

THERE'S NOT NONE OF THIS HERE HAS SUPPOSEDLY ANY VALIDATION IN TO IN OUTS.

OKAY. THE SO HOW CAN STAFF EVALUATE EVALUATE A PROJECT THAT HAS TWO PICTURES? I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN EVEN GO DOWN THAT PATH.

IT'S IN THE PACKET. IT'S NOT EVEN. IT'S NOT. I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE. THIS IS THE SECOND ONE.

THIS ONE DUMPS OUT ONTO EMERALD, INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THIS ONE DUMPED IT JUST INTO THE MIRAGE LINE.

AND THERE'S NO PLACE FOR ANOTHER ROAD. OKAY? THE CITIZENS EFFECTIVELY HAVE BEEN LIED TO DURING THIS CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT PROJECT ABOUT THE NEW PLANS AND THE ONE THE STAFF REVIEWED CREATED THIS PLAN THAT I SAW.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS ARE REALLY GENUINE FROM THE CHURCH.

I MET WITH THE SELLER WHO ASSURED ME THAT THERE WAS VIRTUALLY NO IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION.

TWO DIFFERENT PLANS. THAT'S NOT GENUINE. THE STAFF SHOWS ALL CARS AND TRAFFIC DUMPING INTO EMERALD THROUGH THE.

AND CAUSING ADDITIONAL TIME CONSTRAINTS TO THE CITIZENS FOR NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.

OKAY. YOU NEED TO WRAP IT UP. BUILDERS DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE FUTURE.

THEY ONLY WANT TO GET IN, GET OUT. AND WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THE CITIZENS AROUND THAT NATION AROUND HERE.

SO THE REST OF THESE THINGS IS THAT THEY. MA'AM, YOUR TIME IS UP.

THANK YOU. I REALLY WISH YOU WOULD PUT THAT. GET THAT WORKING.

IT WORKS FOR CITY COUNCIL. WHY CAN'T IT WORK FOR YOU? SO THREE MINUTES. I GET IT, BUT I DON'T SEE IT.

I DON'T SEE IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE, BY THE WAY? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COMMENT? ON GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST. MY CONCERN WITH THIS.

I'M GOING TO BRING UP THE WATER MODEL THAT THEY DID AND THE WASTE WATER FLOW.

AND FIRST OF ALL, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UPSIZE THE THE PIPING FROM 6IN TO 8IN ON EMERALD AND MIRAGE. AND THE THING IS, IF YOU REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE WATER MAIN, IT MAY DECREASE THE AVAILABLE.

THEY CALL IT FIRE FLOW BELOW THE THRESHOLD WHICH WILL CREATE LESS PRESSURE FOR THE RESIDENTS.

FOR THE WASTEWATER MODEL, IT SAYS ON SITE GRAVITY WASTEWATER PIPING WAS CONSIDERED FOR CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING EIGHT INCH GRAVITY WASTEWATER MAIN ALONG EMERALD.

HOWEVER, THERE APPEARS TO BE INSUFFICIENT DEPTH ALONG THE EXISTING EMERALD ROAD WASTEWATER GRAVITY PIPING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONNECTION AND STILL MAINTAIN REQUIRED GRAVITY PIPE COVER WITHIN THE SITE.

THEREFORE, A SMALL ON SITE LIFT STATION IS RECOMMENDED FOR THE SITE, WITH A SIX INCH FORCE MAIN DISCHARGING INTO EXISTING WASTEWATER MANHOLE ALONG EMERALD ROAD. SO THE MANHOLE LINING MAY NEED TO BE REDUCED LONG.

MAY BE NEEDED TO REDUCE LONG TERM CORROSION DURING THE LIFT STATION DISCHARGE.

AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS IS THE CHURCH GOING TO BE HOOKING UP TO THE LIFT STATION, AND HOW MUCH IMPACT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ONTO THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS? RESIDENTS. THE SUMMARY AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS ASSUMES THAT THE CITY'S TREATMENT FACILITY CAPACITY FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER WILL BE AVAILABLE,

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INCLUDING THE SOUTH REGIONAL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY.

WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE? ALSO THIS THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT A 20 YEAR PLANNING.

SO ALL OF THIS, IT'S LIKE, IS IT GOING TO BE TEN, 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS? AND WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING THE REPLACEMENT OF THE WATER MAIN OR THE WATER PIPING BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO FROM 6IN TO 8IN ON MIRAGE AND EMERALD.

SO THAT'S A QUESTION I. I DON'T KNOW IF THE CHURCH REALLY UNDERSTANDS THAT PART OF IT.

AND ALONG WITH THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF, I THINK WE NEED TO RETHINK THIS ONE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? MA'AM? IN THE BACK.

GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS SHAWNEE WYNETTE. I'M A NEARLY LIFELONG PALM BAY RESIDENT AND A HOMEOWNER ON EMERALD ROAD.

I'M HERE TO STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IN QUESTION.

THIS PIECE OF LAND IS NOT JUST ANOTHER VACANT LOT.

IT IS THE LAST NATURAL BARRIER SEPARATING PALM BAY'S COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR FROM OUR CITY'S NEIGHBORHOODS.

ONCE THAT BARRIER IS GONE, THERE IS NO CLEAR LINE BETWEEN HIGH DENSITY COMMERCIAL SPRAWL AND RESIDENTIAL LIVING.

ZONING DECISIONS LIKE THIS ONE PERMANENTLY SHAPE THE CHARACTER OF OUR CITY, AND I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES.

FIRST OFF, TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE. IT DOESN'T TAKE A TRAFFIC EXPERT TO KNOW ADDING 40 HOMES WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.

THE THE SMALL RESIDENTIAL ROADS THAT SERVE THIS AREA WERE NEVER DESIGNED TO HANDLE THE ADDITIONAL BURDEN OF SUBDIVISION TRAFFIC.

THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, NO STREET LIGHTS, NO LINES.

THE ROADS ARE NOT EVEN WIDE ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS TO PASS ONE ANOTHER SIMULTANEOUSLY.

WITH THIS CHANGE, HUNDREDS OF ADDITIONAL DAILY TRIPS WILL FUNNEL THROUGH THESE STREETS THAT ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH CONGESTION AND SAFETY CONCERNS.

THAT MEANS SLOW EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES, MORE ACCIDENTS, AND MORE COST TO THE CITY DOWN THE ROAD TO UPGRADE INFRASTRUCTURE.

NEXT, NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION. THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY ACTS AS A BUFFER, SOFTENING THE SOUNDS AND LIGHTS OF THE NEARBY MALABAR COMMERCIAL AREA.

WE ALREADY HAVE SEEN A HUGE INCREASE IN THIS AREA WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEARBY POINTE APARTMENTS AND THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL RAISING DONE ON MALABAR BY THE SEVEN BREW. IF THIS BUFFER IS REPLACED WITH A SUBDIVISION, RESIDENTS WILL NOT ONLY ENDURE YEARS OF NOISY CONSTRUCTION, BUT WE WILL PERMANENTLY LOSE THAT NATURAL SHIELD.

COMMERCIAL NOISE, TRAFFIC SOUNDS AND ARTIFICIAL LIGHTING WILL TRAVEL FURTHER INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, DISRUPTING THE PEACE AND PRIVACY THAT EXISTING HOMEOWNERS HAVE LONG RELIED ON.

AND POTENTIAL RESIDENTS LOOK FOR HARMING PROPERTY VALUES AND MAKING THIS A LESS DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.

THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD ALSO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON BOTH THE ENVIRONMENT AND OUR COMMUNITY.

COMMUNITY. THIS LAND IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING GREEN SPACES IN THIS PART OF PALM BAY.

IT IS HOME TO A WIDE ARRAY OF NATIVE WILDLIFE, INCLUDING THE ENDANGERED AND PROTECTED GOPHER TORTOISE.

INFILL PROJECTS SUCH AS THESE ARE OFTEN POISED AS BEING MORE ECO FRIENDLY OPTION FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WHEN THEY HAPPEN IN ECOLOGICALLY SENSITIVE POCKETS SUCH AS THIS TYPE OF GOPHER TORTOISE HABITAT, IT CAN ACTUALLY BE MORE DESTRUCTIVE THAN TRADITIONAL SPRAWL BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES GREEN ISLANDS THAT KEEP THESE POPULATIONS FROM TOTAL COLLAPSE.

IN THESE SCENARIOS, THE DISPLACED WILDLIFE CANNOT SIMPLY RELOCATE AS THERE IS NOWHERE FOR IT LEFT FOR IT TO GO EXCEPT SCURRY INTO OUR NEIGHBORING YARDS AND STREETS UNTIL LOCAL POPULATIONS COLLAPSE IN THE EXISTING RESIDENTS.

PAY THE PRICE. THANK YOU. CAN YOU WRAP IT UP? I CAN, YEAH. I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OCCASIONALLY CAMPING ON THIS LAND, BUT REMOVING GREEN SPACE DOES NOT SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.

IT ONLY PUSHES HOMELESS PEOPLE INTO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.

DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY SORRY, DEVELOPMENT IS ONLY DISPLACEMENT OF THE HOMELESS.

IT'S NOT A SOLUTION. A MORE EFFECTIVE APPROACH WOULD BE TO WORK WITH SOCIAL SERVICES, AND PERHAPS EVEN THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS, MINISTRY OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE DIRECTLY, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, SELLING OUT AND ERASING ONE OF THE LAST NATURAL AREAS IN OUR AREA.

YOUR TIME IS TIME'S UP. IT'S ABOUT BALANCE, AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SIR.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AS ALWAYS, CHANGING ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH I'M ALWAYS AGAINST BECAUSE WE PUT TOO MUCH EFFORT INTO GETTING A COMP PLAN DONE.

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AND OF COURSE, THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN A COMP PLAN TO A HIGHER DENSITY THAN WHAT WE HAD IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO IS THIS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING THAT WE'RE SHOWING FOR HOW THEY WANT TO DO THE LAYOUT? OR IS THIS A CASE OF WHERE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TELLING YOU WE WANT.

BUT ONCE WE GET THE THE COMPREHENSIVE CHANGE AND THE ZONING CHANGE FROM LOSING OF YOUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND, YOU CAN PUT UP WHATEVER YOU WANT TO PRESENT TO THE TO THE CITY, BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY CHANGED THE ZONING THAT WAS THERE.

A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING IS NOT A PLAN, AND A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING DOES NOT GIVE WEIGHT TO WHAT THE BUILDER CAN DO.

ONCE YOU CHANGE THE ZONING, THE NEXT ONE IS HOA.

IS THIS GOING TO BE AN HOA ESTABLISHMENT AND IF SO, WHAT'S THAT CRITERIA GOING TO BE? RIGHT. HIGHER DENSITY AND A LOSS OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND.

NEGATIVE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY HARDLY ANY RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND LEFT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? YEAH. SORRY. GOT A BABY CRY. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE IT TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I'M SORRY. DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR? OKAY. ONE MORE COMMENT.

HI, MY NAME IS BRIAN HUMPHRIES. I LIVE ON 967 EMERALD ROAD.

THIS DEVELOPMENT IS RIGHT ON THE EDGE. I'M THE LAST PROPERTY ON THIS PROPERTY ON THIS LOT HERE.

FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, THEY'RE PLANNING TO PUT A ROW OF HOUSES.

WHAT VALUE DOES THAT GIVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE? THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A STREET IN FRONT OF THEM AND A STREET BEHIND THEM. I'M GOING TO HAVE A STREET BEHIND ME. I HAVE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO TO TO TO MY PROPERTY VALUE. I ENJOY HAVING THE GREEN SPACE BEHIND ME.

I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY, MAKE GROWTH FOR THE CHURCH, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SAFETY AND CONCERN OF THE HOMELESS.

THIS IS THEIR PROPERTY. THEY WANT TO POLICE THEIR PROPERTY.

THEY LET THE HOMELESS ONTO THEIR LAND AND AND CAUSE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THE STRESS OF THE HOMELESS.

THAT'S THEIR PROPERTY. THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

WE COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, BUT WHAT DO THEY DO TO DO IT? THEY THEY JUST WANT THEY JUST WANT TO DEVELOP.

THEY DON'T THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM, THE PEOPLE THAT SPEAK HERE, THEY DON'T LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY THE MEMBERS OF THIS CHURCH, THEY DON'T LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY THEY WANT TO BUILD THE CHURCH, TO GROW THE CHURCH.

I GET IT, BUT NOT AT THE COST OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THEM.

THEY HAVE ALL THIS LAND. WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO SAVE THIS LITTLE CHUNK FOR THEM? BUT DISREGARD THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM. THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE IT TO PUBLIC.

ONE MORE. SIR. HELLO. MY NAME IS BRIER WYNETTE.

I LIVE AT 991 EMERALD ROAD. DID YOU FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD, SIR? I ABSOLUTELY WILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ECONOMIC STABILITY IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR HERE.

IF WE CONTINUE TO BUILD TOO AGGRESSIVELY IN THE HOUSING MARKET, SLOWS WHICH CURRENT TRENDS ARE SUGGESTING IS THE CASE.

THE CITY RISKS BEING LEFT WITH MORE HALF FINISHED DEVELOPMENTS, STRAINED SERVICES AND VACANT HOMES.

WILL PALM BAY LEARNED FROM ITS PAST, OR ARE WE DESTINED TO CONTINUE TO REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES? KEEPING A BUFFER OF UNDEVELOPED OR RULE ZONED LAND PROVIDES BOTH FLEXIBILITY AND RESILIENCE IN THE FACE OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURNS.

I DO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OCCASIONALLY CAMPING ON THE LAND, BUT REMOVING SORRY, LET ME SKIP AHEAD. HERE IS NOT A RESOLUTION. ZONING IS ABOUT BALANCE, ABOUT MAKING CHOICES THAT PROTECT RESIDENTS, PRESERVE QUALITY OF LIFE, AND ENSURING SUSTAINABLE LONG TERM GROWTH.

APPROVING THIS REZONING WOULD JUST TIP THAT BALANCE FURTHER IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

JUST BECAUSE THE LAND LOOKS VACANT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S NOT USED.

IT'S OFTEN PROVIDING CRITICAL AND INVALUABLE ECOLOGICAL AND ECONOMIC SERVICES THAT ONCE LOST, WE CANNOT REPLACE AND IT COST DIVIDENDS. I URGE YOU, PLEASE PRESERVE THIS PROPERTY AND ALL ITS CURRENT ZONING AND USAGE.

KEEP THE BARRIER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL INTACT, AND PROTECT BOTH THE PEOPLE AND THE WILDLIFE WHO CALL PALM BAY HOME.

DENY THESE MOTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ON ONE MORE NOTE, THAT'S MY DAUGHTER OUT THERE.

WE BUILT HER BEDROOM, HER NURSERY, LOOKING RIGHT AT THESE WOODS.

THEY WANT TO KNOCK THEM ALL DOWN AND REPLACE IT WITH A PLASTIC FENCE.

AND YET ANOTHER HOA SUBDIVISION THAT LOOKS LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER ONE.

WE JUST WANT SOME GREENERY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE. THE PUBLIC. ONE MORE.

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YEAH. HI, MY NAME IS DEREK OPAL. I LIVE I LIVE ON CORDOVA STREET IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HERE WHERE CENTER POINT CHURCH IS PRESENTING THEIR REZONING. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THE WELL, A LOT OF PEOPLE GAVE A LOT OF FACTS HERE TODAY.

I'M NOT HERE TO GIVE THE FACTS OTHER THAN WHAT THEY'RE PRESENTING IS RATHER STRANGE AND OFFENSIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL HUNDRED HOMES THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE DOING A ROAD.

WE'RE UNSURE OF WHICH WAY THE HOUSES WILL FACE.

SO HERE WE HAVE HOMES FACING THIS WAY ON THIS MAIN ROAD.

AND HERE WE'LL HAVE HOUSES FACING THE OTHER WAY.

SO IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. AND IT SEEMS LIKE PALM BAY IS CONTINUOUSLY CHANGING AND REZONING AND TRYING TO DO THIS LAND GRAB MONEY GRAB.

AND PEOPLE ARE JUST TRYING TO REBUILD MULTIFAMILY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THIS SEEMS TO BE ANOTHER CASE WHERE THEY DIDN'T GIVE ANY THOUGHT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CREATE THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH AGAIN, DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. HOW ABOUT JUST ADD TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? SO THAT IS EVIDENCE THERE THAT THEY'RE NOT CONSIDERING ANY OF OUR LAND VALUES, ANY OF OUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT, AND THEY'RE JUST GOING ABOUT IT THE WRONG WAY. SO THANK YOU.

ANY. SEEING NO ONE ELSE. IT'LL BE CLOSED FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE.

WANT TO RESPOND? THANK YOU. BILL PRICE, PRICE. FAMILY HOMES I REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, BOTH IN SUPPORT AND ESPECIALLY THOSE AGAINST.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHERE THE COMMUNITY STANDS. I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS.

THEY HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON. AS A DEVELOPER, I PAY FOR ALL SITE IMPROVEMENTS.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS MATCHES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS I ARGUED IN MY FACTORS OF ANALYSIS AND THIS ISN'T JUST SOME LAND GRAB.

IF I COULD JUST ADD MORE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT AN HOA. I WOULD I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT'S ALLOWED.

I HAVE TO HAVE AN HOA TO DEVELOP IT. AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MR. FILIBERTO, FIRST. THANK YOU. CAN CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE THE WASTEWATER GOING FROM 6 TO 8IN ON YOUR END? OH THE GRAVITY SYSTEM THAT FEEDS THE CURRENT.

THE CURRENT WASTEWATER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TOO SHALLOW TO ALLOW ME TO TIE INTO IT.

SO I WILL HAVE TO PIPE THE WATER UNDER PRESSURE OR THE WASTEWATER UNDER PRESSURE USING A SMALL LIFT STATION UP TO EMERSON ROAD.

OKAY. AND YOUR INGRESS AND EGRESS ONE WAY AND ONE WAY OUT.

OR DO YOU HAVE TWO, TWO INGRESS EGRESS? RIGHT NOW WE ONLY HAVE CONCEPT PLANS.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET TWO WAYS IN AND OUT.

AND WE'LL BE ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, SIR? I WAS JUST GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS GOING TO BE AN HOA DEVELOPMENT OR IS IT? YEAH. I DO BELIEVE THE ONLY WAY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS IS TO DO AN HOA.

I DON'T THINK I CAN JUST PUT STREETS IN AND BUILD HOUSES LIKE I LIKE.

I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LOVE, I WOULD LOVE. SO THE CHURCH MENTIONED THAT WOULD BE FOR LIKE CHILDREN AND TEENS.

IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE CHURCH IS GOING TO HELP US FILL THESE HOMES WITH CHURCH MEMBERS, OR IS IT JUST GOING TO BE FOR SALE TO THE PUBLIC? NO. IT'S SEPARATE. I AM NOT PART OF THE CHURCH.

I AM JUST THE DEVELOPER AND THE PERSON PURCHASING THE LAND FROM THE CHURCH.

OKAY. I KNOW THE CHURCH IS GOING TO USE THE PROCEEDS FOR THEIR OWN PURPOSES. AND YOU COULD THEY COULD SPEAK MORE APROPOS TO THAT.

OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING IN THAT WON'T BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CHURCH NECESSARILY.

NO. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? SEEING NONE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

THANK YOU SIR. AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR A MOTION? MAY I ASK THAT THE CHURCH MEMBERS A QUESTION OR IF THERE ONE OF THE MEMBERS.

SO THE SALE OF THE LAND IS IT IS IT THE CHURCH IS EXPERIENCING EXPANSION.

CORRECT. SO THE SALE OF THE LAND WOULD ENABLE US TO BE ABLE TO PUT A NEW BUILDING IN AND DO THIS WITHOUT THE SALE OF THIS LAND.

WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS. WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FURTHER WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GROW AND DO THE BUILDING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE WITHOUT THE SALE OF THIS LAND.

A NEW YOUTH FACILITY AT CENTER POINT IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING.

IT'S A NEW YOUTH AND CHILDREN. OUR CURRENT, OUR CURRENT BUILDING WILL BE FULLY CONVERTED INTO A CHILDREN'S AND YOUTH SANCTUARY, BASICALLY ALL FOR THEM. SO OUR TOTAL BUILDING WILL BE PUTTING A NEW BUILDING ON OUR CURRENT LAND.

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OKAY. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD. I'M SORRY.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF I CAN. IS THERE AN EXEMPTION THAT THE BUILDERS COULD MAKE WHERE THERE'S GREEN SPACE AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT IT'S NOT A WHITE PLASTIC FENCE LIKE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT FOR HIS CHILD TO SEE FROM THE BACK DOOR. IS THERE LIKE A GREEN? COULD YOU ADD, LIKE, A BUFFER ZONE OF GREEN? POSSIBLY.

OR IS THAT NOT IN. I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH BUILDING STUFF, BUT.

NO IT'S FINE. I'M BILL PRICE. AGAIN? PRICE. FAMILY HOMES.

DEVELOPER. WE ARE REQUIRED BY CITY CODE TO HAVE SO MUCH GREEN SPACE AS PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WHAT WE DO IS WE USUALLY ACTIVATE THE RETENTION AREA BY ADDING THINGS LIKE GAZEBOS, BENCHES, WALKING PATHS, YOU KNOW, TO ALLOW THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY TO UTILIZE THAT SPACE AND TO ADD TO PALM BAY GREEN SPACE.

I'M TORN ON THIS ONE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE'S THERE'S GOT TO BE A GOOD WAY TO DEVELOP, AND THERE'S GOT TO BE A, YOU KNOW. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY, I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. I KNOW THERE'S THERE'S TWO AMENDMENTS THAT ARE UP FOR TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST ONE IS TO CHANGE THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S THE ONE I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON MAINLY.

I KNOW THE CURRENT PLAN OR THE PICTURES TO SHOW THAT STREET BEHIND IS THE INTENTION FOR, YOU KNOW, HOUSES TO BACK UP OR IS NOW THERE'S TWO STREETS BEHIND ONE SERVICING.

WHICH WAY IS THE HOUSE IS SUPPOSED TO? BASED ON MY DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF, I DON'T THINK THEY WERE GOING TO ALLOW THAT.

THE CODE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE TWO ENTRANCES IN AND OUT.

AND WE'RE MOST LIKELY GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR A VARIANCE FOR THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE SHAPE AND NATURE OF THAT, THAT PARTICULAR INFILL. OKAY. WE'RE WORKING WITH.

SO LET'S LET'S IMAGINE THAT SECOND AMENDMENT ITEM IS NOT APPROVED NOT ALLOWED.

AND IT'S ONLY THE LOW DENSITY. THAT LITTLE STRIP OF EIGHT HOUSES THERE WOULD BE NO STREET BEHIND AT THAT POINT.

NO, THERE WOULD BE THERE WOULD BE NO STREET BEHIND THAT. YOU DON'T NEED A SECOND ENTRANCE FOR THAT OTHER. NO, BECAUSE THEY ALL OPEN DIRECTLY ONTO A STREET. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I WAS GOING TO ASK THE CHURCH AS WELL IF THERE'S.

DO YOU HAVE THE HOMELESS POPULATION THAT LIVES BACK THERE OR OCCASIONALLY CAMPS BACK THERE? HAVE YOU TRIED TO CLEAR THEM OUT? HAVE HAVE THE POLICE BEEN UNABLE TO DO SO? IN VIRGINIA WE HAVE WE HAVE A BAN CURRENTLY WHERE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT IF THEY COME ON THE PROPERTY, THEY ARE TRESPASSED. BUT WE CANNOT CONTROL IT.

AND IT IS NOT JUST EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.

WE HAVE A MASSIVE CAMP THAT'S IN THERE AND WE HAVE THE POLICE AT.

WE HAVE POLICE MEMBERS THAT GO TO OUR CHURCH. WE HAVE POLICE MEMBERS THAT ARE THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS. POLICE MEMBERS USE OUR PARKING LOT AS A AS A ZONING AREA TO TO TALK.

AND SO THEY SEE IT AND THEY'RE THERE. BUT WE JUST IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T CONTROL.

I FEEL LIKE THERE'S GOT TO BE A MIDDLE GROUND WHERE WHERE DEVELOPMENT CAN MOVE FORWARD IN A GOOD WAY.

AND GREEN SPACES CAN ALSO BE SOMEWHAT PROTECTED.

AND THIS IS I'M SUPER, SUPER TORN ON THIS. THERE'S GOT TO BE OKAY.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? IF YOU HAVE NONE, WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION.

OR DO I HAVE A MOTION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CHAIR? YES, IF I MAY. YES. I WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION THAT FOR ZONING OR LAND USE, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADD CONDITIONS TO YOUR MOTION.

CORRECT? SO IF YOU DESIRE THAT DURING SITE PLANNING, STAFF REQUIRES MORE BUFFER AREA, LET'S SAY, OR, YOU KNOW, MORE GREEN SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXISTING COMMUNITY, YOU CERTAINLY CAN MAKE THAT KIND OF MOTION OR, I'M SORRY, CONDITION AS PART OF YOUR MOTION FOR A REZONING.

MAINLY FOR REZONING. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WILL STAY.

WHICH IS WHAT I TELL CITY COUNCIL ALL THE TIME.

MY PREFERENCE IS NOT TO HAVE CONDITIONS ON THE LAND.

USE CONDITIONS ARE MORE APPROPRIATE ON THE ZONING.

SO DON'T ADD CONDITIONS TO THE LAND USE ONLY WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE ZONING.

YOU CAN ADD CONDITIONS. AND THIS AND THIS FIRST ITEM IS RELATED TO THE ZONING.

NO, NO, IT'S RELATED TO LAND USE. LAND USE LAND USE OKAY.

THE FIRST CASE IS THE LAND USE OKAY. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT INCLUDES SOME SORT OF A BUFFER ZONE, POSSIBLY AROUND THE OUTSIDE EDGE.

CAN YOU HOLD THAT FOR THE ZONING? OH, SORRY. YEAH.

OKAY. CAN YOU RESTATE YOUR MOTION, PLEASE? WITH I WITHDRAW I SUPPOSE I WITHDRAW MY MOTION BECAUSE I'M NOT.

DID YOU HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CPS? PLEASE.

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CAN I ADD THAT LATER? YES. FOR THE ZONING. ACCORDING TO THE ATTORNEY, YOU CAN ADD THOSE CONDITIONS TO THE ZONING.

OKAY. TO THE ZONING? SURE. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

I GUESS. DO I HAVE A SECOND? ACTUALLY, I WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE SITUATION. I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED. I MOTION TO APPROVE CP 2500003.

THAT ONE. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND IT.

OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? NAY. OKAY. MOTION PASSES 4 TO 1.

WE GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE, CPC.

020OZ250003. THIS IS THE ZONING CASE FOR THE COMPANION CASE. FOR THIS. THE STAFF HAS ALREADY PRESENTED THEIR STAFF REPORT.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER YOU'D LIKE TO ADD? NO I DON'T. MADAM CHAIR. YES. JUST TO AGAIN ILLUMINATE WHAT WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS THAT.

HOLD ON. YOU SWITCHED IT ON ME. OKAY. SO IN IN THIS EXAMPLE, THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CHANGING HERE. CORRECT. OKAY. YES. BUT THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CORRECT FOR THE LARGER ONE.

OKAY. SO YOU JUST VOTED ON THIS PARCEL ONLY, CORRECT? AND NOW FOR THE ZONING. THIS IS CORRECT. RIGHT.

THE LITTLE ONE? YES. SO YOU'RE ONLY VOTING ON THE LARGE PARCEL TO CHANGE THE ZONING, CORRECT? AND THIS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ADAM SMITH, OUR CITY AND OUR ATTORNEY.

IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY. THIS MAY BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO ADD CONDITIONS, SHOULD YOU SO DESIRE.

DOES THAT HELP YOU, SIR? YES. THANK YOU. I'M SO SORRY.

I KNOW IT'S IT'S CONFUSING, I APOLOGIZE. SO THERE YOU GO.

OKAY. KEEP IT ON THAT. OKAY. DOES ANY OF THE BOARD HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? MADAM CHAIR, JUST JUST ONE QUESTION. FOR THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NOW, IS IT WAS IT ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES? WHAT'S WHAT'S THE CAPACITY THERE? I'M SORRY. HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT SITE? NO. FOR REAL RESIDENTIAL. WHAT'S WHAT'S THE. I THINK IT IS ONE.

I'M SORRY. FIVE ACRES PER ONE UNIT, RIGHT? SO ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES.

YEAH. YEAH. NO, NO. FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

I DON'T RECALL TOP OF MY HEAD, THAT IS. WELL, THAT'S A ZONING.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR? RURAL. RESIDENTIAL? YES. HOW MANY HOW MANY HOUSES CAN YOU FIT FOR RESIDENTIAL? I'M SORRY, I ONLY HAVE FOR LDR, IT IS FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

BUT FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL, I. I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT OUTLINED.

I DO HAVE RS2 OUTLINED WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THAT.

IF YOU MAY I IT'S A LIST OF REQUIREMENTS FOR RS2.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY HOUSES CAN FIT ON THERE RIGHT NOW WITH RESIDENTIAL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M, WHERE I'M COMING FROM, IF YOU DON'T MIND LOOKING IT UP WHILE THE BOARD DISCUSSES. THAT'D BE GREAT. HOW MANY ACRES IS THAT SITE? TEN. TEN. SO IF YOU GO WITH THAT, THEN IT WOULD BE TEN, RIGHT? SO IT'S A ONE. IS IT ONE UNIT PER ACRE RIGHT NOW THAT CAN FIT ON THE SITE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S IT'S IT'S YOUR PROJECT, BUT I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE VERY, VERY MUCH AWARE.

JUST BECAUSE THE UNDERLYING LAND USE AND WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LAND USE, WE'RE CHANGING THE ZONING ON HERE.

OKAY. SO THE UNDERLYING LAND USE REMAINS. RS2 IS WHAT DEB'S TRYING TO TELL YOU ON THIS LARGE PROPERTY HERE, THE TEN ACRES THE LAND USE ESTABLISHES YOUR DENSITY.

OKAY. YOUR LAND USE DOESN'T. WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE LAND USE HERE.

THE LAND USE IS RS2, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S THAT'S ZONING. AND ZONING IS NOT DENSITY OR INTENSITY.

IT'S LAND USE THAT SETS AND ESTABLISHES YOUR DENSITY AND YOUR INTENSITY.

OKAY. AND WE WANT TO POINT OUT TO EVERYONE THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TEN ACRES AND IT COULD FIT, YOU KNOW, TEN UNITS PER ACRE, SO ACRES, YOU'D HAVE 100 UNITS.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S NOT A RIGHT.

OKAY. BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO PUT IN ROADS AND STORMWATER AND BUFFERS AND SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

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SO. TYPICALLY YOU GET MAYBE 5,060% OF WHAT YOU COULD GET.

RIGHT. SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO BE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT.

SO. SO YOUR YOUR QUESTION, MR. FILIBERTO, IS WHAT WHAT'S THE DENSITY OF OUR S2.

BECAUSE THAT'S THE UNDERLYING LAND USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR NUMBER FOUR. LET ME JUST READ NUMBER FOUR HERE.

A ZONING CHANGE FROM AN RR WHICH IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO AN RS TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

SO RIGHT NOW THE WAY THIS READS IS ZONED RR AND WE'RE CHANGING IT TO RS TWO.

SO MY MY I'M SORRY. IT'S FUTURE LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

I WAS I'M CONFUSING. IT'S OKAY. SO MY QUESTION IS, IS HOW MANY HOUSES OR WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR RR? IS IT ONE UNIT PER ACRE? IS IT ONE UNIT PER FIVE ACRES? THE THE THE LAND USE SAYS THE DENSITY AS MISS FRAZIER HAS DISCUSSED, THE ZONING DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE DENSITY.

THE LAND USE GIVES YOU THE DENSITY. THE ZONING GIVES YOU THE REQUIRED SETBACK.

THE CHOIR FOOTPRINT OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE THE LAND USE GIVES YOU THE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.

NOT THE ZONING. THE ZONING TELLS YOU THE MINIMUM LOT AREA, THE SETBACKS.

SO CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE MINIMUM LOT AREA OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL? YES. FIVE DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. IS YOUR DENSITY ON THIS PROPERTY AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL? FIVE UNITS PER ONE ACRE? YES. AND THAT'S NOT CHANGING ON THIS TEN ACRES.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO FIVE TIMES TEN WOULD BE 50 IF YOU COULD GET IT ALL IN THERE, BUT YOU CAN'T BECAUSE YOU NEED ROADS AND STORMWATER. AND I'M SORRY IF WE'VE CONFUSED YOU.

NO. IT'S OKAY. IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR ALL OF US, I APOLOGIZE.

I'LL STOP MY QUESTIONING. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT IF I COULD. IS THAT OKAY? I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.

AND THIS IS THE ONLY GREEN SPACE LEFT IN THIS AREA, WHICH CONCERNS ME.

BUT IF IT'S GOING IT, IT'S IT'S CONSUMED BY SPRAWL ALL AROUND IT.

IF IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, WOULD IT NOT BE BEHOOVE US TO DEVELOP IT IN A LESS IMPACTFUL WAY? IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BECAUSE WE WE DON'T WANT TO DENY THIS.

AND THEN A TEN UNIT PER ACRE DEVELOPMENT COME ALONG AND GET GET THROUGH.

OKAY. CAN DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

DOES ANYONE HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

OKAY. WE'LL NEED WE NEED TO MOVE ON. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? THEY HAVE SOMETHING FURTHER. NOTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK IN FOR THE ZONING OF THIS PROJECT? ANY FURTHER COMMENTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DISCUSSED EARLIER? SIR. BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

AS ALWAYS, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT TITLES FOR DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.

DENSITY VERSUS LOT, SIZE VERSUS SETBACKS. THAT'S WHY BILL BATTEN IS ALWAYS AGAINST LOSING OF THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE THE LOT SIZES, THE LOT SIZES HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE IN ORDER TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR YOUR RURAL RESIDENTIAL FOR EACH HOUSE.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M ALWAYS AGAINST CHANGING OF ANY RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND.

THE DENSITY SETUP COMES UNDER USAGE, WHICH WOULD BE RS2 THAT SETS THE DENSITY.

THIS GETS SO CONFUSING, BUT IF YOU NEVER CHANGE THE ZONING, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS THE WAY THEY WANT.

THAT'S WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT. KEEP IT AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CURRENT LAND USE IS, OR WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE IS, OR WHAT THE COMP PLAN SAYS IT IS.

WHICHEVER WAY OR WHICHEVER MAP YOU'RE LOOKING AT CURRENTLY IT IS R ZONING.

IF YOU KEEP IT THAT WAY, IT CAN PREVENT THE OVER DENSITY OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING IN FAVOR? MA'AM. GO AHEAD. WAIT JUST A MINUTE. I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD. AND THEN SHE CAN SPEAK. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE UP. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING FURTHER TO ADD ON THE ZONING.

RUTH CALDWELL, 935 DOUGLAS STREET. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF FINISH WHAT I WAS DOING EARLIER.

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AND BASICALLY, THIS IS GOING TO HAVE A LIFT STATION THAT IS SHARED BY THE CHURCH, AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHO'S PAYING WHAT.

IS THAT PART OF THE HOA FEES? IT'S NOT CLEAR.

SO HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE DESCRIBED TO OUR FUTURE PEOPLE THAT MIGHT LIVE THERE? WHO IS GOING TO WHO'S GOING TO KNOW ALL THAT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW WHAT THE ZONING IS AND HOW IT CAME ABOUT? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO KNOW? THERE'S NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN DISCLOSED.

GREEN SPACES ARE LOST. WILDLIFE RELOCATION OR DESTRUCTION.

MIGRANT HOMELESS POPULATION FORCED TO LEAVE WOULD COME INTO OUR SUBDIVISION AND GO TO THOSE GREEN SPACES THAT ARE VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. SINCE THE LAST THREE YEARS. SO INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.

MINIMUM APPROXIMATE 66 CARS DUMPING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE ALL OF THE TRANQUILITY THAT I WANTED WHEN I MOVED HERE TEN YEARS AGO.

SO THIS IS NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT WOULD BE WHAT I WANTED AND HAD CONCEIVED TO BUY INTO.

SO YOU WANT SATISFIED CITIZENS? KEEP DOING, YOU KNOW, STOP DOING THESE INFILL CLUSTER HOMES, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM. STOP TICKING OFF YOUR CITIZENS BY STICKING THESE THINGS IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR SUBDIVISION.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? LET HER SPEAK.

AND THEN FINALLY, THE CHURCH CAN ANSWER. ANYTHING DIFFERENT ON THE ZONING, PLEASE? OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY FOLLOW UP THE COMMENTS ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE STIPULATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ZONING CHANGE.

I WILL SAY I ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETING HOSTED BY MR. PRICE. A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED ABOUT BUFFER ZONES AND OTHER POSSIBLE THINGS THAT WOULD PROTECT OUR PROPERTY VALUES AND OUR PEACE OF MIND.

PRETTY MUCH THE ANSWERS I GOT IS THAT THEY WILL DO WHAT IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO MEET THE MINIMUM STIPULATIONS, BUT IT DIDN'T. THEY DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THEY WERE WILLING TO GIVE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF, OH, YOU KNOW, YES, THE BARRIER BECAUSE MY YARD WALKS RIGHT UP TO THAT DRAINAGE DITCH. SO THAT'S WHATEVER. SO I WILL SAY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT YOU DO HOPE TO SEE IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU WANT THIS POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK LIKE, I DO URGE YOU TO PUT THOSE STIPULATIONS IN PLACE.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE DENYING IS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT PLEASE, IF THERE'S ANY CRITICAL THOUGHT YOU HAVE ON THIS DEVELOPMENT, THINK ABOUT IT NOW AND PUT THOSE STIPULATIONS IN PLACE NOW. I'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? MAY I MAKE A COMMENT REALLY QUICK? I'D REALLY LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES. SO IF EITHER SIDE HAS AN OPINION ABOUT THIS AT ALL, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. PLEASE SPEAK. THAT'S NEXT.

SURE. HELLO, I'M ERIC OPELT. CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? YES. MARY KATE OPELT. SO I'VE BEEN A TEACHER IN THE AREA FOR 20 YEARS.

JUST. WE'VE LIVED IN BREVARD COUNTY OUR WHOLE LIVES.

THE AMOUNT OF CHANGE THAT'S OCCURRED WITHIN IT'S JUST SO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE SEE FROM OUR OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LIVE IN MELBOURNE.

AND IT'S IT'S LIKE WE ARE CONSTANTLY BEING KIND OF BERATED BECAUSE OF THE CITY THAT WE LIVE IN, THAT IT'S UNSAFE. THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CANNOT FIX.

AND IT'S NOT THEIR DILEMMA, BUT IT'S IT'S MORE OF LIKE WHAT OCCURS BEHIND WALMART.

IT'S JUST A HUGE HOMELESS POPULATION WHERE I DON'T EVEN FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING MY CHILDREN WALK ON THE STREET.

THAT'S ONE SET OF A LOAN FROM THIS. THE OTHER COMPLAINT THAT I WOULD HAVE IS THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE YOU KNOW, IF IF THEY ARE FACING FORWARD, DO THEY GET TO LOOK AT THAT GREENERY, IF THEY'RE IN AN HOA? ARE THEY BETTER THAN OUR OWN COMMUNITY? ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WALK IN THOSE STREETS? IT'S LIKE YOU'RE HAVING SOMETHING THAT LOOKS SO GRAND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, LET ALONE ALL THE EVERYTHING WITH THE THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN.

LOVE THE CHURCH. BUT THAT ALONE BRINGS IN SO MUCH TRAFFIC THAT THEY HAVE TO, LIKE, SET UP CONES OR HAS TO BE A CERTAIN WAY.

SO MY PROBLEM WOULD BE, HOW ARE WE GOING TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME INTO HERE AND FEEL LIKE IT'S A PRETENTIOUS AREA THAT YOU'RE BRINGING HOA INTO OUR COMMUNITY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT RIGHT TO HAVE HOUSES THAT ARE FACING IN ONE DIRECTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT OR NOT, BUT I REALLY CAN'T SEE HOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE PUTTING IN.

WE ALREADY HAVE A ROAD ESTABLISHED THERE. SO WE'RE THE OTHER ROAD WOULD GO.

I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SEE MORE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE, BECAUSE ALL WE SEE IS THAT THERE'S LOTS AND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE HOUSES.

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LOVE THE FACT THAT IT'S SINGLE FAMILY, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST DON'T SEE ENOUGH.

SO THAT'S MY ARGUMENT THERE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OTHER PORTION OF THE LAND IS GOING TO BE USED.

IT JUST SEEMS VERY SQUARED OFF. AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M WONDERING HOW THOSE PEOPLE WOULD GET TO THEIR HOUSES.

AND THEN THEY GO TO THAT BACK COMMUNITY AND IT JUST SEEMS SO BROKEN.

APART FROM WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS. IT'S A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE IN.

THERE'S TWO WAYS IN. AND SO PRETTY MUCH WE GO OUT ON DOUGLAS AND NOW I'M STARTING TO GO OFF ON THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE OF ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT COMES IN FROM THE CHURCH.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

ANYONE ELSE? SEEING SEEING NONE. MA'AM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? SO ONE COMMENT AGAIN FOR JANICE HERE THAT SHE HAD ASKED ABOUT WAS WE ARE NOT SELLING ALL OF THE LAND BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO KEEP GREEN SPACE.

WE DO PLAN ON A FUTURE PARK THERE BECAUSE WE ARE TAKING PART OF OUR CURRENT PARK OUT.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT ZONING, WE COULD TECHNICALLY TAKE ALL THAT DOWN AND PUT A BUILDING THERE.

WE COULD REMOVE ALL OF THAT GREEN SPACE RIGHT NOW AND PUT A BUILDING THERE.

IT'S WITHIN OUR IT'S OUR LAND. WE ARE ABLE TO DO THAT.

HOWEVER, WE JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST BENEFIT FOR THE CHURCH.

WE DON'T THINK IT'S THE BEST BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE NOT CHOOSING TO DO THAT. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE KEEPING GREEN SPACE THERE AND WE ARE FUTURE PLANS FOR OURS AS PART OF OUR NEW BUILDING IS TO PUT A PARK THERE AS WELL.

SO THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A PARK THAT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THEM AS WELL.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THE DEVELOPER HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT. WELL, HE'LL BE LATER.

ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE. SHARI RIGBY. I LIVE AT 1273 COOSA AVENUE NORTHEAST, AND I AM A MEMBER OF CENTERPOINT. I'M ON THE BOARD, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CHURCH'S DECISION TO SELL THE LAND AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WAS DONE VERY THOUGHTFULLY.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WENT WITH PRICE IS THAT THEY ARE A LOCAL DEVELOPER.

WE WANTED SOMEONE THAT HAD WAS IN TOUCH WITH THE COMMUNITY AND UNDERSTOOD THE NEEDS, AND I THINK THEY ARE AS WHY WE CHOSE THEM, INTERESTED IN DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY AND IN INCLUDING ALL OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'RE GETTING.

SO I THINK WE DID IT THOUGHTFULLY FOR THAT REASON.

AND SO I URGE THAT YOU DO APPROVE THE REZONING FOR THAT REASON, SO THAT IT THE LAND CAN'T, YOU KNOW, CAN'T NECESSARILY STAY UNDEVELOPED FOREVER.

AND SO HOPEFULLY VIRGINIA'S COMMENT ON THE GREEN SPACE AND EVERYTHING CAN ADD TO THAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH THE DEVELOPER.

LIKE TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. BILL PRICE, PRICE FAMILY HOMES. AND AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THIS ISSUE.

AS FAR AS GREEN SPACE GOES I WOULD SAY THAT THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE HAD THE CHANCE TO PURCHASE THIS.

THIS THIS LAND HAS BEEN FOR SALE. IT'S BEEN OFFERED PUBLICLY INCLUDING THE CITY.

IF THEY WANTED TO PARK THERE, THEY COULD THEY COULD BUY IT AND PUT A PARK THERE. WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS JUST CONTINUE TO BUILD MY COMMUNITY.

I'M MATCHING THE CHARACTER AND ZONING OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT.

I'M BUILDING THE SAME STYLE AND TYPE OF HOUSES.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SHOEHORN MY WAY IN WITH A CLUSTER COMMUNITY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS JUST FOLLOWING THE RULES AND DEVELOPMENT LAWS THAT THAT THE CITY OF PALM BAY HAS.

AS FAR AS I EXCEED THEM BY PUTTING A FENCE AROUND THE COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT REQUIRED.

BUT I DO DO IT. AND I WILL ACTIVATE THE GREEN AREAS AND THAT WILL BE OPEN.

IT'S NOT A GATED COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THE THE WHOLE CITY IS WELCOME TO COME IN AND AND GO ON THOSE STREETS.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? QUESTIONS.

WHY IS THE HOA REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? I'M NOT I'M NOT REALLY SUPER AWARE OF THE EXACT LEGAL REASONS.

I FOLLOW THE ADVICE OF MY, LIKE, MY ATTORNEY.

BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT HOA IS REQUIRED. OKAY. IS IT SOME SORT OF A CITY ORDINANCES REQUIRED BASED ON SIZE OR WHAT STATE REQUIREMENT? WHY? HO! OKAY. ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

I'M SORRY. THANK YOU, MR. PRICE. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. PRICE? OKAY. WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD.

BOARD? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION OR MOTION? MADAM CHAIR? YES. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY Z250003.

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THE ZONING CHANGE FROM RR TO RS TWO. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SURE. I FEEL RR IS A RARITY IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND GREEN. GREEN SPACE PRESERVATION SHOULD BE PARAMOUNT.

AND I FEEL THAT RR YOU CAN FIT MAYBE ABOUT HALF OF THE HOUSES THAT ARE IN THERE.

ALSO THAT THAT IT'S BASICALLY A FLAG PARCEL. JUST TO LET THESE PEOPLE LET PEOPLE KNOW.

AND THAT FLAG LOT WHERE THOSE HOUSES ARE. SCARES ME.

ESPECIALLY WITH KIDS OR WHOEVER MAY BE GOING IN THERE.

A ROAD ON EACH SIDE. SO I FEEL WITH THE RR, THE FLAG COULD BE THE IN AND OUT, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS.

WHEREAS THE RR RESIDENTIAL ACTUAL HOUSES CAN BE WHERE THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO PLACE THEM WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF MY REASONING FOR DENYING THE RS2 DESIGNATION.

CAN I CAN I ADD A CAVEAT TO, WELL, EXCUSE ME? CAN I GET SOME CLARIFICATION? THIS IS NOT ON THAT FLAG LOT.

IT'S ON THE SQUARE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT. BUT THE WHOLE THE I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT, THE A WHOLE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ZONING FOR THAT. ONLY ZONING FOR THIS? YEP. OKAY. WELL, EITHER WAY OUR WHEN IT COMES TO THE DENSITY THE OUR MATCHES THIS PROPERTY MORE PROPERLY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I ADD A CAVEAT TO THE DENIAL THAT SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO SWEEP THAT AREA OF ANY TRESPASSERS WHATSOEVER, THAT IT HAS TO BE COMPLETELY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A PLANNING IS THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE WE WILL CERTAINLY NOTE THAT WOULD A FENCE I'LL BRING THAT FORTH FOR MANAGEMENT AND THE POLICE.

BUT NO THERE WAS NO NEED. YOUR COMMENT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

I PROMISE YOU. THANK YOU. BUT NO, PLEASE DON'T ADD IT TO THE.

THE CHILDREN BEING NEARBY AT THE CHURCH CONCERNS ME IF THERE'S CRIMINALS OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR WHATEVER, BUT. OKAY.

SEEING. I'VE BEEN AROUND A FEW. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR OF DENIAL.

SAY AYE. AYE. OPPOSED I. DENIAL CARRIES 4 TO 1.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH THE THE NEXT CASES.

MISS RAMOS. WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION.

THAT'S IT. STAY THERE. YEAH. KIND OF MAKE COMMENTS TO THEM, LIKE COME BACK WITH A DIFFERENT PLAN OR.

NO. THE CITY CITY COUNCIL COULD STILL DO IT, SO.

JUST MAKE A REAL BIG PART. GOOD EVENING. I'M TANYA RAMOS.

COULD YOU ALL PLEASE LEAVE OR BE QUIET? WE'RE CONTINUING THE ZONING BOARD MEETING.

SO I NEED YOU TO LEAVE OR BE QUIET. YES, SIR.

WE HAVE A LITTLE ORDER. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE TO GO ON TO THE NEXT CASE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. I'M TANYA RAMOS, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, AND I'M GOING TO PRESENT THREE CASES.

KIND OF AS ONE STORY AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE OTHER CASES BEFORE, IT WILL REQUIRE SEPARATE MOTIONS FOR EACH ONE.

SO THIS IS THE APPLICATION FOR AN ANNEXATION, A FUTURE LAND USE AND A REZONING FOR A PROPOSED PROJECT CALLED WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION. THE APPLICANT IS THE GUY E BOROFF AND DORIS M BOROFF REVOCABLE TRUST.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE REPRESENTED THIS EVENING BY JAKE WISE.

THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF MARAGH LOMA BOULEVARD SOUTHEAST AND SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY SOUTHEAST, AND THE REQUEST THIS EVENING, OF COURSE, IS A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION FROM BREVARD COUNTY INTO THE CITY.

AND THEY'RE ALSO REQUESTING A SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FROM THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATION, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL 1 TO 2.5, THAT ACCOMMODATES ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT FOR EVERY TWO AND A HALF ACRES.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING TO GO TO A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS FIVE UNITS PER ACRE.

AND THE REZONING IS FROM GENERAL USE AND AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH ARE THE COUNTY DESIGNATIONS.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING RS THREE. I HAVE A TYPO THERE.

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SO AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

IT'S JUST SOUTH OF CYPRESS BAY WEST. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 32.97 ACRES.

EXCUSE ME. AND AS I SAID BEFORE, CURRENTLY THEIR FUTURE LAND USE IN THE COUNTY IS FOR ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT PER ACRE.

YOU CAN SEE SURROUNDING COUNTY AREA IN PINK AND THEN ABOVE THE YELLOW HATCHED, WHICH IS WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE CITY'S BOUNDARY CURRENTLY IS.

AND THAT AREA TOUCHING WILLOWBROOK IS ALSO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

SO COMPATIBLE USE WOULD BE MOVING INTO THE AREA.

AND THEN HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ZONING. SO THE CURRENT COUNTY ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL CLASSIFICATIONS.

AND THE AREA AROUND IT IS ACTUALLY KIND OF CHANGING.

SO TO THE NORTH IS PUD. AND THEN THERE ARE SOME AGRICULTURAL AND ALSO SOME PUD CLASSIFICATIONS IN THE COUNTY AREA THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS. AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING AN RS THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO MOVE INTO WILLOWBROOK.

SO IT WILL BE SIMILAR LOT SIZES, BUT MAYBE A LITTLE LARGER THAN WHAT THEY HAVE CURRENTLY IN IN THE CYPRESS BAY WEST PUD.

OKAY. SO THIS PROJECT HELD THEIR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION MEETING ON OCTOBER 16TH AND 2024, AND ALL REQUIRED NOTICES HAVE BEEN MAILED AND POSTED, AND THE BOARD ACTION IS NEEDED TONIGHT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE REVIEW CRITERIA FOUND IN SECTION 141 .044 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.

AND THAT'S FOR THE ANNEXATION PORTION. AND THEN SECTIONS 170 2.0 21C AND ANYONE 72.0 22 D.

AND THOSE WILL BE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE REZONING.

AND REALLY KIND OF ALREADY WENT OVER THIS. SO THEY HAVE SUBMITTED FOR THE ANNEXATION A PETITION FOR VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. THEY'VE GOT THEIR APPROPRIATE LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION, A BOUNDARY SURVEY, WARRANTY DEED AND LEGAL DESCRIPTION SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE THE LEGAL PERMISSION OR POSSIBILITY OF OF DOING THIS ANNEXATION.

AND AS ALREADY SAID, VOLUNTARY ANNEXATIONS GOVERNED BY SECTION 171 .044 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.

AND IT'S NOTED IN OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH BASICALLY REFERS US BACK TO THE STATUTE FOR HOW TO HANDLE A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

AND I JUST I PROVIDED A COPY HERE OF THE SURVEY, HIGHLIGHTED THE WILLOWBROOK IN YELLOW.

THIS AREA WAS PLATTED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES.

LIKE BACK IN THE 1960S. AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A BUNCH OF LITTLE LONG, SKINNY PARCELS.

SO AS WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION, IT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE REPLATTED.

AND FOR THE ANNEXATION. THE SUBDIVISION MEETS ALL.

OR THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.

IT ABUTS THE CITY'S CURRENT BOUNDARY ALONG ITS NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND IS A REASONABLY COMPACT PIECE OF PROPERTY.

NO ENCLAVES, POCKETS OR FINGER AREAS AND SERPENTINE PATTERNS WILL BE CREATED.

AND THOSE ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE STATUTE.

THE POLICE, FIRE AND UTILITIES DEPARTMENTS HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION SITE UPON DEVELOPMENT.

AND NOTED THAT THE THE OPENING OF THE TEMPORARY FIRE STATION NUMBER NINE AT MARAGH AND BABCOCK STREET WILL GREATLY REDUCE RESPONSE TIMES FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THIS AREA.

AND ACCESS WILL WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE SITE THROUGH AN EXTENSION OF THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY.

THE SUBDIVISION WILL NOT HAVE ACCESS UNTIL THIS RIGHT OF WAY IS DEDICATED, AND IT WILL CONTINUE THE WESTWARD EXTENSION OF THE SAINT JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WANTS TO SEE MOVING FORWARD, SO THAT EVENTUALLY, LONG TERM, WE CAN MAKE A CONNECTION AND HAVE BETTER EVACUATION ROUTES.

AND, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT AREAS OPEN UP FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE COMPOUND AREA.

AND SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR THE ANNEXATION.

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I THINK I FROZE. SO THEN MOVING ON TO THE FUTURE LAND USE AND THE REZONING APPLICATIONS.

AGAIN, THESE ARE GOVERNED BY THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE FOR THESE APPLICATIONS.

THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE US WITH THE APPLICATION BOUNDARY SURVEY.

THERE'S BEEN A NATURAL RESOURCES ASSESSMENT, FACTORS OF ANALYSIS, SCHOOL CONCURRENCY, TRANSPORTATION STATEMENT AND OTHER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED. AND THEN IN IN ANALYSIS THE SMALL SCALE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE CHANGE MATCHES THE FUTURE LAND USE WITHIN THE CYPRESS BAY WEST TO THE NORTH.

IT SUPPORTS EFFICIENT LAND USE, PROMOTES COMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND UTILIZING EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WITHOUT ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON PUBLIC FACILITIES OR THE ENVIRONMENT. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ALSO FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

IT'S. OKAY. YOU WANT THIS? YOU WANT THIS? THAT'S THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP. OKAY.

SO. I WAS MOVING ON TO THE REZONING, BUT I CAN SAY ON THIS MAP JUST I WAS HIGHLIGHTING THAT YOU CAN SEE THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO THE NORTH, AND THAT WILL BE MOVING DOWN INTO THE HATCHED AREA.

AND THEN FOR THE REZONING THE PROPOSED REZONING TO RS THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

UNDER A RIGHT OF WAY, DEDICATION WILL BE PROVIDED FROM THE CYPRESS BAY WEST TO THE NORTH TO EXTEND THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND THAT WILL START OUT PROVIDING ACCESS TO SITE TO WILLOWBROOK THROUGH A SHORT TWO LANE EXTENSION.

AND THE PROJECT WILL ALSO PROVIDE A STABILIZED EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT, WHICH WILL COME OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION AND CONNECT TO THAT DRIVEWAY THROUGH THAT RIGHT OF WAY.

I THINK I HAD A PICTURE NEXT. YEAH, SO YOU COULD SEE IT.

OH. SO YEAH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE YELLOW, BUT SOMEHOW THE YELLOW MOVED OVER SINCE I CREATED IT.

SO I WAS TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT THE PORTION OF THE PARKWAY THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO ACCOMMODATE WILLOWBROOK.

AND THERE'S THE EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE.

AND AND THEN I JUST HAD ANOTHER MAP AFTER THAT ONE, JUST SHOWING WHERE WILLOWBROOK IS IN RELATION TO THE BIGGER AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, THE AREA WHERE WE HOPE TO SEE THE PARKWAY MOVING WEST.

RIGHT. AND SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR ALL THREE OF THESE CASES.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, AND I HAVE IT ON THE VERY LAST SLIDE WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE REZONING BE APPROVED, SUBJECT TO THE ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION BEING PROVIDED THROUGH A DEDICATED AND APPROVED RIGHT OF WAY.

AND A STABILIZED EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT MUST BE ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY TO SERVE AS A SECONDARY EGRESS FOR RESIDENTS UNTIL THE PERMANENT CONNECTION IS CONSTRUCTED. AND THAT WAS ALL THAT I HAD. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ONE QUESTION. THE CONNECTION TO WILLOWBROOK. IS THAT GOING TO BE OPEN ACCESS FOR ANYBODY, OR IS THAT THE EMERGENCY PART YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? SO THE ACCESS FOR WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION IS ALL GOING TO COME FROM SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING I THINK IT'S LIKE A NATURAL WALKWAY DOWN TO WILLOWBROOK BECAUSE IT CONNECTS TO THE WILLOWBROOK ROAD. I SHOULD CLARIFY THAT. YEAH, BUT THE ROAD IS ACTUALLY IN THE COUNTY.

SO THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CONNECT THERE, BUT THERE COULD BE IF THERE WAS, LIKE, A FIRE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, VEHICLES OR RESIDENTS COULD ESCAPE THROUGH THERE.

YEAH. OKAY. SO IT'S FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES ONLY.

THE CONNECTION TO WILLOWBROOK? YEAH. WILLOWBROOK ROAD, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SURE. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

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SEEING NONE, WILL THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU, MISS RAMOS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU. JAKE WISE, CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT.

APPRECIATE. I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD ONLY TWO PROJECTS SO FAR TONIGHT. YOU'RE TWO, TWO AND A HALF PLUS HOURS.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND JUST REAL QUICK, AN HOA IS NEEDED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE ENTITY TO TO MAINTAIN THE COMMON IMPROVEMENTS LIKE THE ROADS AND THE STORMWATER.

IF YOU HAVE A SUBDIVISION SIGN, LANDSCAPING TRACKS, ANY AMENITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT'S A REQUIREMENT TO HAVE AN HOA TO HAVE AN ENTITY THAT IS RESPONSIBLE.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE GUY. SHARP DRESSER TOO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. BEAT ME TO IT ALREADY. SO WE HAVE WITH US CRAIG HOTOP WITH FOUR STAR TONIGHT, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.

BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS KIND OF GIVE YOU A QUICK REGIONAL LOOK HERE.

LET'S SEE WHERE'S. OKAY. IS THIS NOT WORKING? OKAY. NO PROBLEM. IT'S OKAY. THERE YOU GO. SO THIS IS US RIGHT HERE.

KIND OF AN UPSIDE DOWN L. AND WE WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS SLIDE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT I-95 HERE.

HERE'S THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY. HERE'S BABCOCK STREET. YOUR MAIN CORRIDOR IS IN THE AREA.

WE'VE GOT A PROJECT CALLED PALM BAY POINT EAST AND WEST HERE.

IT'S GOT ABOUT 127 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL. WE'VE GOT EMERALD LAKES, WHICH IS ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF THE INTERSECTION, THE INTERCHANGE WITH SAINT JOHNS PARKWAY AND I-95.

THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR TWO POINT 2,000,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.

SO OUR PROJECT IS 33 ACRES. WE HAVE ALL THAT COMMERCIAL DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF US.

OUR TRAFFIC IS GOING TO COME AND GO FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE THROUGH THE EAST, AND SO THIS PROJECT DOESN'T REALLY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR PUD BECAUSE OF THE COMMERCIAL REQUIREMENT. SO WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF NOW FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS TO BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE A STRAIGHT ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO STILL PUT IN THE MARKETABLE LOTS.

RIGHT NOW, PALM BAY, AS YOU KNOW, HAS 10,000 PLUS 80 FOOT WIDE LOTS, AND THE STRAIGHT ZONING CODES TYPICALLY ONLY ALLOW 75 FOOT WIDE, WIDE LOT OR OR WIDER. SO WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY IS ASKING FOR A MORE MARKETABLE LOT, WHICH IS A MIX OF 60 AND 75.

AND IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE PRODUCTS ARE TO THE NORTH.

ALSO, JUST SO THIS BOARD UNDERSTANDS THE FOUR STAR COMMITMENT TO THIS AREA, THE SAME GRAPHIC IDENTIFIES WHAT THEY'VE BUILT SO FAR.

SO, CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE. I'M NOT GOING TO WORK AGAIN.

OH, THERE WE GO. CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE RIGHT HERE IS 395 LOTS.

THEY ALSO BUILT ALL OF THE UTILITIES, ROADWAY, INFRASTRUCTURE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT PUBLIX USES, THEIR OUT PARCELS AND SOME OF THAT OTHER FUTURE COMMERCIAL HERE.

THEY'VE ALSO ARE UNDERWAY WITH OVER 1300 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS HERE.

THEY ALSO BUILT ALL THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE AMENITIES.

THEY'VE LOOPED MIRALOMA BOULEVARD, WHICH, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, GIVES AN ALTERNATIVE TO TAKE A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRIPS OFF OF BABCOCK STREET TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE COMMERCIAL OR STRAIGHT OUT TO I-95 ALONG THE PARKWAY.

ON TOP OF THAT, THEY EXTENDED AT 20 INCH FORCE MAIN.

AND IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN HOW BIG A 20 INCH FORCE MAIN IS, YOU CAN TELL YOU IT WAS A MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR WASTEWATER FOR THIS WHOLE REGION.

AND THEY CONSTRUCTED THAT OVER THREE MILES TO HELP NOT JUST THEIR DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THE WHOLE REGION.

SO THEY HAVE A HUGE COMMITMENT TO THIS AREA. HUGE COMMITMENT TO MAKE THIS PROJECT SUCCESSFUL, ALONG WITH OUR OTHER SIX OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL.

AND THAT'S THE REASON PUBLIX IS OPEN TODAY, IS BECAUSE OF ALL THESE ROOFTOPS THAT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COME IN, AND NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE A LOT MORE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

IF YOU'RE NOT AWARE, EMERALD LAKES HAS FINALLY BROKEN GROUND.

THEY'RE RIGHT NOW EXTENDING UTILITIES TO THIS AREA, SPENDING ABOUT $15 MILLION TO DO SO.

ALSO, AGAIN, HELPING THIS WHOLE REGION TO HELP THAT ECONOMIC HELP THE COMMERCIAL BE THAT ECONOMIC SPURT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT THERE. SO BASICALLY THIS PROJECT IS PROPOSING ON 33 ACRES, 74 LOTS.

I HEARD YOUR DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE VERSUS ZONING.

THE FUTURE LAND USE DICTATES THE NUMBER OF UNITS PER ACRE THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP.

WE WOULD BE ALLOWED UP TO FIVE. WE'RE PROPOSING 2.2.

SO MOST OF OUR PROJECTS END UP WITH A LOT LOWER DENSITY THAN WHAT'S ACTUALLY ALLOWED.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CRAM IN A WHOLE BUNCH OF LOTS.

WE'RE PROVIDING LARGER LOTS THAN WHAT'S IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

AND IF YOU REVIEW IF YOU SAW THE STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY WERE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL FOR OUR ANNEXATION,

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OUR FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT, WHICH IS FOR THAT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND FOR OUR ZONING, WHICH IS THE RS3. THIS PROJECT WILL EXTEND THE PARKWAY AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY.

THE REASON THAT WASN'T DONE BEFORE IS BECAUSE AS A PROJECT TO THE WEST OF US CALLED ROLLING MEADOWS, THAT PROJECT AT THAT TIME THAT WE DID THE WATERSTONE PROJECT IN CYPRESS BAY TO THE NORTH, DIDN'T KNOW WHICH WAY THEY WANTED IT TO GO.

SO WE HAVE A LARGE GREEN SPACE. COME ON. THERE WE GO.

RUNNING ACROSS HERE END UP HERE. SO THE PARKWAY COULD HAVE SWEPT NORTH, COULD HAVE GONE SOUTH, COULD HAVE GONE STRAIGHT. IT'S JUST TO PROVIDE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

SO WE WILL BE EXTENDING IT ACROSS OUR FRONTAGE FOR THIS PROJECT AND ALSO EXTENDING UTILITIES AS PART OF OUR PROJECT.

THE CITY WATER AND WASTEWATER UTILITIES AS YOU SAW IN THE REPORT, NEW TEMPORARY FIRE STATION THAT'S COMING IN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY ON IS GOING TO BE ABOUT A TWO MINUTE RESPONSE TIME TO THIS AREA SO THAT WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

THE CLOSEST POLICE STATION IS ABOUT 11 MILES AWAY.

OF COURSE, THEY DO HAVE PATROLS, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW ON EITHER SITE IN EMERALD LAKES RIGHT HERE, OR A ONE AT ASHTON PARK, WHICH IS JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE EAST.

SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE SOMETHING CLOSER HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AS YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THANK YOU. PERFECT.

MAYBE NOT QUITE PERFECT. NO PROBLEM.

SO ON THIS SLIDE, THIS IS THE NORTH SOUTH FINGER THAT YOU SAW ON THE OTHER SLIDE.

SO NORTH IS TO THE LEFT. SO THAT FUTURE PARKWAY EXTENSION AND UTILITY EXTENSIONS HERE.

OUR MAIN ENTRANCE IS HERE. AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME OUT WITH A STABILIZED EMERGENCY ACCESS TO THE NORTH ALONG HERE.

AND THEN ALSO, AS MR. FILIBERTO ASKED EARLIER WITH TANYA TO THE SOUTH TO WILLOWBROOK.

WE HAVE A BUFFER. ALONG HERE, IT'S ABOUT 80FT WIDE.

WE HAVE LINEAR TRAILS ALL AROUND HERE THAT WILL BE AMENITIZED.

THIS IS A PRESERVATION OPEN GREEN SPACE PARK.

THERE'S SOME PRETTY SPECTACULAR TREES DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH THAT WE CAN PRESERVE.

THERE'S AN EXISTING DITCH THAT COMES THROUGH HERE THAT IS ONE OF THE OUTFALLS FOR THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE NORTH THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE.

SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. THERE WAS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT A BOUNDARY DISPUTE.

WE RESOLVED THOSE RIGHT OF WAY. AND OTHER THAN JUST MEETING AND GREETING OUR NEIGHBORS, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OPPOSITION TO OUR PROJECT.

SO TO WRAP THIS ALL UP, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE THREE TIMES TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE ANNEXATION, THE SMALL SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT. THERE'S TEN CRITERIA RELATED TO THAT.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT. I PROMISE I WON'T GO THROUGH THEM ALL THAT WE DO COMPLY WITH ALL TEN OF THEM.

AND THE SAME WITH THE ZONING. THERE'S SIX CRITERIA.

AND WE MEET THE SIX CRITERIA FOR THOSE. ONE LAST THING.

SCHOOL CONCURRENCY. WE ARE ONLY PROPOSING 74 LOTS, BUT OF COURSE, IT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN.

ANY CHANCE YOU GO BACK TO THE REGIONAL MAP. THANK YOU.

SO RELATED TO THAT, I'LL JUST DO THE BEST I CAN.

THERE WE GO. SO HERE'S OUR SITE RIGHT HERE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON A NEW ODYSSEY CHARTER SCHOOL RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S LITERALLY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE. IT WOULD BE A K TO EIGHT SCHOOL.

AND THE CONCURRENCY CONCERNS RIGHT NOW ARE THE K TO EIGHT.

SO WE ARE WORKING TO RESOLVE THAT. AND THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER PROJECT CALLED ASHTON PARK THAT HAS A 30 ACRE SITE THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ON AS WELL.

SO WE ARE RESOLVING THAT REGIONALLY, THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE SCHOOL ISSUES, BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE NEARBY AND COMING SOON.

SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD MAY HAVE.

APPRECIATE RESPONSE. IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. WEISS. THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. WHEN IS THE. LET'S SAY YOU GET APPROVED TONIGHT FOR ALL THREE.

WHAT IS THE COMPLETION DATE FOR THAT SUBDIVISION? SO WE WOULD GO TO COUNCIL NEXT. COUNCIL WILL HAVE TWO READINGS.

SO THERE'D PROBABLY BE ABOUT 4 TO 5 WEEKS BEFORE THAT'S APPROVED.

AND THEN AT THAT TIME, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD RIGHT AWAY WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND PERMITTING.

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THAT TYPICALLY TAKES 4 TO 6 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON JUST HOW FAST THE AGENCIES MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE CAN BE RESPONSIVE TO THEM. MR.. MR. WEISS, THANK YOU.

AND THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING ON THE TRAFFIC, SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SAFETY AND UTILITIES.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THOSE CHECKS, ALL MY BOXES.

I WANTED TO GO BACK AGAIN TO WILLOWBROOK. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A GATE OR SOMETHING THERE ON WILLOWBROOK TO PREVENT RESIDENTS FROM YOUR DEVELOPMENT GOING ON TO WILLOWBROOK? YES. IT ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE APPROVED FOR ROADWAY.

WOULD BE JUST AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY. THERE'S A CURRENT CULVERT THERE.

THERE'S A BIG, HUGE DITCH THAT RUNS ALONG THE NORTH SIDE.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CROSS IT, BUT WOULD NOT BE A DAILY USE AT ALL.

IT WOULD JUST BE AN EMERGENCY SITUATION. EMERGENCIES ONLY OKAY. BECAUSE MY PRIMARY CONCERN, THERE'S A LOT OF SEMI TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING GOING UP AND DOWN, UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD. WE WANT THAT TRAFFIC. YEAH. YEAH. OKAY.

THAT'S A LONG STRAIGHT ROADWAY. IT IS. IT IS.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, MR. WEISS. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE NO LETTERS IN THE FILE ON THIS CASE.

THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ANY OPPOSED? MR. BATTEN? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

THIS ONE I'M KIND OF FOR AND AGAINST. MY BIG CONCERN IS I DON'T LIKE SEEING THE CITY OF PALM BAY EXPAND ITS LANDMASS, BECAUSE WITH THE LANDMASS ALSO MEANS INCREASE IN POPULATION, WHICH ALSO MEANS INCREASE IN NEED FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE SAYING, OH, WELL, THE POLICE SAY THEY CAN HANDLE IT, YET WE'RE ALREADY HEARING ON EVERY BUDGET THAT WE'RE WE CAN'T HANDLE IT.

BUT YET THEY'RE HEARING IN THE REPORTS THAT THEY CAN HANDLE IT.

SO I FIND THAT CONTRADICTORY OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING IN BUDGET REPORTS.

THE NEXT ONE IS. THE. SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY. IT'S MORE THAN JUST SUPPOSED TO BE JUST FOR THESE DEVELOPERS TO HAVE ACCESS ONTO THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENTS.

THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CUT, A MECHANISM THAT SURROUNDS THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

YET IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE TRYING TO BRING THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY INTO A ROUNDABOUT THAT THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT INTO THEIR COMMUNITY.

THAT'S NOT A SAINT. THAT'S NOT A BELTWAY OR AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.

WHEN YOU HAVE GOING INTO THEIR COMMUNITY THAT HAS A ROUNDABOUT IN IT, THAT'S BY BATON STANDARD BAD DESIGN, RIGHT? WHEN THEY'RE GOING FORWARD, GOING DOWN ONTO WILLOWBROOK ROAD, DO THEY HAVE TO CROSS A CANAL? I WAS TRYING TO BRING UP THE I THOUGHT THERE WAS A BIG CANAL DOWN THERE SOMEPLACE THAT RUNS PARALLEL TO THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT'S ALREADY THERE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT CANAL IS THERE, BUT WHERE I HAVE CONFLICT WITH THIS OVERALL IS I HATE SEEING THE GROWTH, BUT I'M ALSO FEARFUL IF WE DON'T ANNEX THIS INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, THAT THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY PLANNING THOUSANDS OF HOMES COMING DOWN THERE.

THAT WILL NOT BE ANY REVENUE TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY GIVEN FACTOR THAT I SEE. FOR ME PERSONALLY.

THAT'S WHY THIS WOULD BE GOOD TO ANNEX IN, AND THAT WOULD BE FOR THE FACT, BECAUSE THE COUNTY WILL COME IN THERE AND BUILD ANYHOW, AND THEN THEY'LL STILL WANT TO USE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES WITH THE COUNTY PROVIDING US NOTHING.

SO THAT'S WHY THE ONLY REASON I SAY ANNEXING IT IN WOULD BE A BENEFIT.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A DRAIN ON THE SIZE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A DRAIN ON ALL THE MAPPING, AND IT'S GOING TO DRAIN ON THE POLICE AND FIRE AND UTILITIES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? SEEING NONE. I'LL BRING IT BACK. MISTER WISE, WOULD YOU CARE TO COMMENT? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK. THE PARKWAY EXTENSION IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPER DRIVEN.

WE'RE THE NEXT LEG. SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE SEGMENTS OF THE PARKWAY BEING EXTENDED.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE SAME THING UP IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE CITY.

AND AS MR. BATTEN SAID, EVENTUALLY THE MASTER PLAN HAS IT BEING LOOPED AROUND THAT WILL HELP WITH HURRICANE EVACUATIONS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

THE ROUNDABOUT IS AT THE INTERSECTION WITH MARAGH LOMA.

THAT WAS INTENDED TO CALM TRAFFIC. AND IT IS ALSO KIND OF AN AMENITY.

OTHERWISE, IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG, STRAIGHT SHOT GOING WEST, MOST LIKELY.

AND WE DON'T WANT THE WILLOWBROOK ROAD SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE ALL THAT TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THERE IS A HUGE CANAL. SO TILLY CANAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WILLOWBROOK.

THERE'S JUST A LARGE DITCH BETWEEN US AND THE NORTH SIDE OF WILLOWBROOK AVE.

AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS WITH THE CITY.

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WE COULD ALREADY BE DEVELOPING IF WE DECIDE TO STAY IN THE COUNTY AND WORK WITH THEM.

ROLLING MEADOWS TO THE WEST IS IN THE COUNTY CENTER, TO THE SOUTH IS IN THE COUNTY.

THEY'RE GOING TO TIE INTO CITY UTILITIES. SO, SO THAT EXPANSION OF UTILITIES WOULD HAVE HAPPENED FOR THIS PROJECT, WHETHER WE WERE THERE OR NOT. FOUR STAR HAS BEEN PARTNERING WITH THE CITY.

I MENTIONED ALREADY WITH THE FOUR SPAN EXTENSIONS AND ALL THE OTHER WORK FOR ALL THESE YEARS.

AND SO THEY SPENT AND TOOK ALL THIS EXTRA TIME AND SPENT A LOT MORE MONEY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AND TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS INTO THE CITY FOR THE TAX BASE AND TO HELP THE COMMERCIAL. AND JUST ONE MORE NOTE ON THE COMMERCIAL.

COME ON. THERE WE GO. SO WHAT WE HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS I MENTIONED 127 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL HERE.

EMERALD LAKES HAS UP TO TWO POINT 2,000,000FT², AND EMERALD LAKES IS GOING TO GET A TON OF VISIBILITY OFF OF I-95 FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL.

BUT THE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OVER HERE, WHEN THE NATIONALS LOOK AT THIS AREA, THEY SEE JUST THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF PRESERVATION TO THE SOUTH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THESE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE WHAT IS GOING TO MAKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SUCCESSFUL.

THIS IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY WANT. THIS IS WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT RESTAURANTS. THEY WANT MEDICAL SERVICES NEARBY, LIKE THE SCHOOL, TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOL LIKE ODYSSEY I MENTIONED EARLIER.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM BOTH COUNCIL AND THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS CAN HELP PROVIDE.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BE HAPPY TO RESPOND.

THANK YOU. BOARD. HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. SEEING NONE. THE FLOOR IS NOW CLOSED.

I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD ON THE FIRST CASE.

THE ANNEXATION 250001. DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION.

BASED ON THE FINDINGS THAT THE PROPOSED PLAN COMPLIES WITH THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL CRITERIA FROM SECTION 171.044, FLORIDA STATUTES AND THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. I'LL APPROVE.

JUST JUST FOR COMMENT. I DO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT ANNEXATION TO.

HOWEVER I'D PREFER US, THE CITY TO HAVE THIS THAN THE COUNTY.

IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EITHER WAY. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. TAKE A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE AYE AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE GOING TO THE SECOND CASE.

CP 25 0001. THE STAFF HAS PRESENTED THEIR REPORT.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE AUDIENCE.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS REQUEST? ANY OPPOSED? MR. BATTEN? I KNOW IT'S WHO HE IS.

BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST.

I'M JUST GOING TO KIND OF POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS FROM RS.

1.25 THAT WAS ONE HOUSE FOR EVERY 2.5 ACRES FOR BILL BATTEN.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE PERFECT BUILD OUT FOR THE MAKE THAT THE ENTIRE CITY, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT WOULD SURE BE NICE IF WE HAD THAT IN MORE PLACES WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY.

AND THE REASON THAT BEING IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US BEAUTIFUL ESTATE HOMES IN THE BIGGEST CITY IN CENTRAL FLORIDA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I'LL BRING IT BACK. DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS, MR. WEISS? OKAY, MA'AM, BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION OR DISCUSSION.

MADAM CHAIR, YES? I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE SMALL SCALE DEVELOPMENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

FUTURE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT FOR WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION KCP 25 0001, BASED ON THE FINDINGS OF THE PROPOSED PLAN, COMPLIES WITH THE REVIEW CRITERIA FROM THE CITY OF PALM BAY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

TO THE LAST CASE, CPC 25 00001 ZONING FOR WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION.

STAFF HAS MADE THE REPORT ANYTHING FOR MR. WISE? THEY WILL BRING ANY COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.

DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS REQUEST? SEEING NONE THAT'S BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A MOTION OR DISCUSSION, MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD APPROVED RECOMMENDED THE APPLICANT

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ZONING MAP AMENDMENT CASE NUMBER CPC 25 001 WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MUST BE PROVIDED THROUGH A DEDICATED, APPROVED RIGHT OF WAY AND A STABILIZED EMERGENCY.

A STABILIZED EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT MUST BE ESTABLISHED TO THE RIGHT OF WAY TO SERVE AS A SECONDARY EGRESS FOR RESIDENTS UNTIL A PERMANENT CONNECTION IS CONSTRUCTED OR.

THAT'S IT. THAT'S IT. IS THAT ALL THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? YES. OKAY. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? UNANIMOUSLY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU. MAY I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT? I JUST WANT TO SAY IT LOOKS WEIRD WHEN YOU DO YOUR ONE THING YOU'RE HERE FOR AND YOU LEAVE.

SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER, HANG OUT FOR THE WHOLE MEETING. WE'RE STUCK HERE. YOU MIGHT AS WELL BE STUCK HERE, TOO. AND SECONDLY, THANK YOU TO STAFF SO MUCH. YOU GUYS ARE SO INVALUABLE. ALL OF YOU. THANK YOU. ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LORD. WOULD IT BE COOL?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.