IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. I'M GOING TO CALL THIS REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING 2025 DASH 22 TO
ORDER. 
          [CALL TO ORDER:]
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THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY JOSEPH ONE. 
          JOSEPH, ARE YOU HERE? I'M LOOKING FOR JOSEPH. 
          IS JOSEPH ONE HERE? OKAY, I DON'T SEE HIM. SO THE INVOCATION WILL BE PROVIDED BY PASTOR
MARK MILLER. 
          THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY COUNCILMAN MIKE HAMMER. 
          WILL YOU ALL PLEASE RISE? I TRUST THE HOLY SPIRIT. 
          AMEN. AMEN. WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF PALM BAY. HEAVENLY FATHER,
WE COME TOGETHER TODAY, AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS. THANK YOU FATHER. I PRAY, LORD, FOR YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND DISCERNMENT. 
          I, I PRAY FOR YOUR COMPASSION AND YOUR LOVE AND YOUR MERCY AND GRACE TO TO REIGN IN THIS
PLACE TODAY AND REALLY FOREVERMORE. 
          I PRAY FOR, OF COURSE, CHARLIE KIRK'S FAMILY. 
          I PRAY FOR ALL EVERYONE'S FAMILY. LORD, THAT WAS AFFECTED IN ANY WAY BY THAT TRAGEDY. 
          I PRAY FOR THIS CITY TO COME TOGETHER IN ONE,
AND TO REALLY LORD FOR YOU TO WORK IN OUR LIVES TO TO MAKE THIS THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. 
          I PRAY THAT YOU WILL LEAD US AND GUIDE US AND DIRECT US,
THAT YOU WILL STRETCH US AND GROW US, AND IT WILL BE HUNGRY FOR TRUTH, BECAUSE IT SURELY HAS BEEN MISSING FOR A LONG TIME. 
          AND FATHER, WE JUST GIVE YOU ALL THE REVERENCE,
ALL THE GLORY, AND ALL THE HONOR. 
          IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS, I PRAY. AMEN. AMEN. 
          SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          AMEN. ROLL CALL. MAYOR MEDINA. PRESIDENT. DEPUTY. MAYOR. 
          JAFFEE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. PRESENT. 
          COUNCILMAN. HAMER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. LANGEVIN. 
          PRESENT. MR. MORTON. PRESENT. MISS SMITH. PRESENT. 
          THANK YOU. BEFORE WE GO ON TO AGENDA REVISIONS,
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THERE IS A DECORUM IN THESE CHAMBERS. 
          THEY ARE ON THE SCREEN. THEY'RE ON WHAT I CONSIDER A VISION BOARD. 
          PLEASE, LET'S FOLLOW THEM. BECAUSE IF WE GET ROWDY,
THIS WILL BE A MEETING DONE IN ORDER. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGENDA REVISIONS, MR. MORTON. 
          [AGENDA REVISIONS:]
YES. ONE SECOND PLEASE. I HAVE SOME AGENDA REVISIONS. 
          FIRST OF ALL, IS WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT REGARDING. 
          CAN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MIC, SIR? THANK YOU,
HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. 
          FIRST REVISION IS WE'RE GOING TO STRIKE THE PRESENTATION ON THE DOGE BAR. 
          TRACKER MVP, IT'S GOING TO BE RESCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 2ND. 
          REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING. AT THE REQUEST OF DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
THERE'S ADDED DISCUSSION REGARDING PLANNED MARCH HONORING CHARLIE KIRK. IT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THIS ITEM UNDER ITEM THREE,
UNDER NEW BUSINESS. 
          EXCUSE ME. AND THEN WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE TONIGHT OR AN APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE,
OR BOTH. 
          TO REQUEST A CONTINUATION, AND I BELIEVE THE FIRST REQUEST THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ASK FOR, AND I'D LIKE THEM TO COME UP AND ASK FOR THAT REQUEST,
IS FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          NUMBER THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, THREE, FOUR,
FIVE AND SIX. 
          YES. OKAY. STEP FORWARD. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. 
          MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS KIM ROZANKA. 
          I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF PETE HOLDINGS LLC AND THE CONTRACT PURCHASER,
JKLM ACQUISITIONS, LLC. 
          THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN CALLED MANY THINGS. METCO VILLAGE. 
          SOMETHING IN BETWEEN. AND NOW IT'S LOTUS. THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR A COUPLE OF
YEARS. 
          THERE WAS A PROBLEM TWO YEARS AGO WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT THAT WAS NEVER SENT
UP TO THE STATE, WHICH DELAYED THIS QUITE A BIT. LATELY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT,
WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STAFF IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. 
          WE DIDN'T RECEIVE COMMENTS BACK UNTIL JULY. WE TURNED THEM BACK AROUND. 
          END OF JULY. AND THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR DID NOT LIKE THEM. 
          YOU WENT BACK TO HER OWN VERSION, AND THAT WAS AFTER IT HAD BEEN REVIEWED BY MICHAEL
RODRIGUEZ. 
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AND THEN YOUR CITY ATTORNEY REVIEWED THE VERSION THAT YOUR FORMER GROWTH MANAGEMENT
DIRECTOR LIKED, WHICH WAS NOT THE ONE WE HAD AGREED ON WITH MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ. 
          THERE'S BEEN STAFF CHANGES. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT IS THE PROPER DA. 
          REGARDLESS, WE HAVE TWO ISSUES REMAINING ON THE DA. 
          ONE IS THE LANGUAGE FOR THE SCHOOL CONCURRENCY,
WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH. AND YOUR STAFF HAS BEEN VERY DEFERENTIAL TO THE SCHOOL BOARD. SCHOOL BOARD REALLY HAS NO PLAN FOR MITIGATION,
AND THAT'S PART OF OUR STRUGGLE. 
          THE SECOND ISSUE IS THE IMPACT FEE CREDITS FOR THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY,
AND THAT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A DISPUTE OVER WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE PROJECT AND WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE PUBLIC, AND WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THOSE. 
          WE ARE SURE WE CAN GET THEM DONE. BUT WITH THE STAFF CHANGES AND THE CITY ATTORNEY CHANGES
AND THE CITY ATTORNEY OUT OF THE OFFICE FOR A VERY WELL-DESERVED VACATION. 
          WE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET IT DONE. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ALL OF THESE FOUR ITEMS NEED
TO TRAVEL TOGETHER, WHICH MAKES SENSE. YOUR CODE SAYS THE DA SHOULD BE APPROVED WITH THE PUD,
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          AND I WAS REQUESTED BY ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ACTUALLY ASK FOR THIS CONTINUANCE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR IT. WE BELIEVE WE CAN GET IT ALL RESOLVED BY OCTOBER 16TH,
AND WE ASK THAT YOU JUST HAVE PATIENCE WITH US AND LET US WORK WITH YOUR STAFF, WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN VERY THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH US. 
          IT'S JUST BEEN DIFFICULT WITH THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT,
MA'AM. 
          SO LET ME LET ME STAND FAST WITH THAT OCTOBER OCTOBER 2ND DATE MR. MORTON, SECOND, I'M GOING TO TURN TO YOU BECAUSE,
AS YOU KNOW COUNCIL HAS GIVEN YOU IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS OPPORTUNITIES FOR DISCUSSION WITH, WITH DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS REGARDING THIS,
THIS REGIONAL AREA DOWN IN THE SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR. 
          SO I WANTED TO TO IS OCTOBER 2ND TO AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE I SEE THAT WE'VE CONTINUED THIS A
FEW TIMES ALREADY. 
          SO I WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS SO THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE
COMING IN FOR THIS GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          YEAH. I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'LL HAVE THE REGIONAL DISCUSSIONS WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT
DEVELOPMENT ENTITIES AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES BY OCTOBER 2ND. 
          WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE MET ALREADY, AND IT WAS CANCELED AT LEAST ONCE,
POTENTIALLY TWICE BY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, GROUPS OF THAT. WE'RE CALLING THE SOUTHEAST REGIONAL ZONE THIS THIS FUTURE ZONE
OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING TO RESCHEDULE. I DON'T HAVE A DATE SET YET. 
          ON THE AGENDA FOR A REPLACEMENT MEETING TO MEET WITH THE GROUPS AND DISCUSS,
YOU KNOW, THE REGIONAL ISSUES. 
          I'LL JUST USE THE TERM CONCURRENCY, EVEN IF IT'S NOT,
YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY CODIFIED OR DIRECTLY, YOU KNOW, RELATED IN RESPECTS. BUT WE DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GREATER TRAFFIC,
ROADS, FIRE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          INFRASTRUCTURE, CORRECT? YES. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT MEETING OR BE PREPARED. 
          TO YOUR POINT. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED TO EXTEND THIS TO JUNE TO JULY AT THE PNC. 
          REQUESTED AGAIN TO EXTEND JULY TO AUGUST, THEN TO AUGUST 21ST. 
          APPLICANT'S THIRD REQUEST. AUGUST 20TH 1ST TO SEPTEMBER 18TH. 
          FOURTH REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCE SEPTEMBER 18TH. OCTOBER 2ND. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF IF THIS FOURTH REQUEST IS AGGRESSIVE OR IF WE'LL ACTUALLY MEET THE
TIMELINE. 
          YEAH. SO AND THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S THAT'S MY POINT. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET TO A PLACE. SO WHAT WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND DO WOULD YOU IS IS THERE A
TARGET DATE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY SET A DATE NOW. 
          I'M TRYING TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK AS TO. SO MY SENSITIVITY IS JUST TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          I'M SURE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT THAT WILL,
YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE THESE ITEMS HEARD AND SOME OTHERS ARE GOING TO BE REQUESTED TO BE CONTINUED. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO KEEP MOVING DATES. 
          RIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO BE COMPLETELY SAFE,
PROBABLY THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER, I THINK MIGHT BE REALISTIC. 
          I DON'T WANT TO GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT EITHER. I DOUBT YOU DO,
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE HOLIDAYS. THAT'S NOT FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY EITHER TO START GOING ON THANKSGIVING OR CHRISTMAS. PEOPLE TRAVEL,
PEOPLE ON VACATION. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. 
          SO WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO TALK WITH THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE OR THE APPLICANT
THEMSELVES. 
          I'M LOOKING AT OUR STAFF WORKLOAD AND SOME OF THE MEETINGS AND THINGS. WE'RE STILL
RECONCILING AND SOME OF THE DISAGREEMENTS WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE. AS WAS POINTED OUT AND I HAVE A HIGHER DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE, AT LEAST FROM OUR END,
THAT NOVEMBER IS MORE REALISTIC. 
          WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. MISS ROSENKER, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO THE FIRST MEETING IN
NOVEMBER? YES, SIR. OKAY. MADAM CLERK, WHAT DATE IS THAT? THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER. NOVEMBER 6TH. SO,
COUNCIL, I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO INCLUDE NOVEMBER 6TH FOR THIS ITEM. 
          THREE, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX TO BE TIME CERTAIN. 
          THE MOTION TO NOVEMBER 6TH. SO MOVED. SECOND,
GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ALRIGHT, MA'AM, WE'LL DISCUSS THIS NOVEMBER 6TH. 
          THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY. YEAH. UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION,
IT LOOKS. 
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I THINK THE NEXT ONE, NATURALLY WOULD JUST FOLLOW. CAN MAKE THE REQUEST. ALTHOUGH I'M
ASSUMING IT'S IN ALIGNMENT. WE WOULD DO NUMBER SIX, THE DAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. EXCUSE ME, AT THE SAME MEETING ON NOVEMBER 6TH. 
          YEAH. OKAY, SO YOU NEED ANOTHER MOTION BECAUSE I INCLUDED IN. 
          OH. DID YOU. I DIDN'T HEAR THAT I APOLOGIZE. YES. 
          SO WE'RE GOOD. YES, SIR, I DID. OKAY. ALL RIGHT,
SO THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS, AGAIN, SIMILAR SITUATION IS HERE FOR A PROJECT RELATING TO A PROJECT CALLED SANKOFA GREEN
ESTATES AND HAS JUST REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE. 
          I BELIEVE THAT WAS LATE YESTERDAY. AND THEY'RE HERE TO PRESENT THE THEIR CONTINUANCE
CONTINUOUS REQUEST TO YOU. 
          OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS KIM ROSENKER. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF DAVID MOYES AND THE CONTRACT PURCHASER OF
SANKOFA GROUP. 
          THIS IS FOR A PROJECT KNOWN AS GREEN ESTATES. 
          IT WAS FIRST HEARD AT PNC EARLIER THIS MONTH. 
          AND THIS WAS OUR FIRST REQUEST AT PNC. WE WERE HANDED,
AFTER OUR PRESENTATION, A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS BY THE CITY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. 
          WE'VE GONE OUT TO DO TRAFFIC COUNTS. WE JUST NEED MORE TIME TO PRESENT THAT TO STAFF TO
WORK OUT THE DISAGREEMENTS ON THE TRAFFIC. 
          ACCORDING TO WHAT THE CITY PROVIDED, SAN FILIPPO WAS ALREADY FAILING. 
          BASED UPON FDOT COUNTS, OUR COUNTS ARE SHOWING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          SO WE WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO RESOLVE THAT WITH CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER, JAMES TAYLOR, IS ON TOP OF THIS AND WANTS TO WORK WITH STAFF. 
          ALSO, WE HAD REQUESTED A MEETING WITH THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER,
JULIET. 
          WE HAD SET FOR YESTERDAY DUE TO AN EMERGENCY. 
          WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO MEET WITH HER ON THIS PROJECT,
SO WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THE CHANCE TO DO THAT TOO. 
          AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR OCTOBER 16TH BECAUSE OCTOBER 2ND. 
          OUR EXPERT PLANNER, JIM MCKNIGHT, IS NOT AVAILABLE. 
          SO WE WOULD ASK FOR OUR FIRST TIME CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 16TH ON ITEM SEVEN AND EIGHT. 
          I GUESS I'M IN THE SAME POSITION, RIGHT? I KNOW THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST BUT MR. MORTON WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE OCTOBER 16TH? IS THAT A YES? I BELIEVE THAT THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE AND DISCUSS CAN MORE THAN
BE ACCOMMODATED IN THAT TIME FRAME. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR CANDOR. SO I'LL NEED A MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. I GOT. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? SEEING NONE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. OKAY. MISS SMITH,
ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? NO, SIR. COUNCIL. ANY AGENDA REVISIONS? YES. MAYOR. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE ALL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS PRIOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS,
AS WELL AS NEW BUSINESS. ITEM NUMBER THREE IN WHAT ORDER YOU WANT TO DO NEW BUSINESS. 
          ITEM NUMBER THREE FIRST FOR THE CITY BUSINESS FIRST. 
          OKAY. YES, SIR. SO I GOT SO JUST SO THAT I GET THIS STRAIGHT,
SIR. 
          YOU WANT ALL PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THE PUBLIC
COMMENTS. 
          YOU WANT NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE TO BE THAT LAST ITEM. 
          I WOULD PREFER AFTER RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC HEARING NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          I BELIEVE MOST OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN AROUND THAT ITEM. 
          OKAY. SO YEAH, AFTER PUBLIC HEARINGS, NEW BUSINESS NUMBER THREE. 
          YEP. OKAY, SO I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          I NEED A SECOND. SECOND. I GOT A SECOND. BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, GENTLEMEN? I'VE SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. OKAY, SO WE REVAMPED THE AGENDA FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE KEEPING SCORE. 
          SO NOW WE'RE ON PROCLAMATION, AND IT IS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH. 
          [PROCLAMATIONS AND RECOGNITIONS:]
OKAY, REBECCA, COME ON UP AND BRING BRING UP OUR OUR PUPPY. 
          OH, THIS IS GREAT, MAN. HEY, BUDDY. HOW YOU DOING? THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO GOOD EVENING FOLKS. IT IS HEREBY PROCLAIMED BY THE MAYOR OF THE CITY
OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA. WHEREAS WE BELIEVE IN THE JOYFUL,
TRANSFORMATIVE POWER OF THE HUMAN CANINE BOND AND ITS INCLUSIVITY OF ALL CITIZENS. AND WHEREAS IN THE UNITED STATES,
70 MILLION ADULTS AND CHILDREN HAVE A DISABILITY. 
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AND ONLY 16,000 SERVICE DOGS FROM ACCREDITED TRAINING PROGRAMS EXIST NATIONWIDE. 
          AND THE NEED CONTINUES TO GROW. WHEREAS CANINE COMPANIONS CREATED THE SERVICE DOG FOR
PEOPLE WITH PHYSICAL DISABILITIES 50 YEARS AGO IN 1975,
75, CREATING A NEW KIND OF SUPPORT FOR DISABILITY. 
          AND WHEREAS CANINE COMPANIONS IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT EMBRACES THE LIVES OF
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BY PROVIDING EXPERTLY TRAINED SERVICE DOGS AND ONGOING SUPPORT TO ENSURE QUALITY PARTNERSHIPS. 
          AND WHEREAS, CANINE COMPANIONS AND THEIR SERVICE DOGS EMPOWER PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES TO
LEAD LIFE WITH GREATER INDEPENDENCE BY PROVIDING BEST IN CLASS TRAINING,
ONGOING FOLLOW UP SERVICES AND A DEEPLY COMMITTED COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT. 
          WHEREAS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH AIMS TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF
SERVICE DOGS AND THE LAWS PROTECTING THEIR HANDLERS, WHEREAS THE CITY OF PALM BAY CONTINUES TO WORK TOWARDS BECOMING AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY IN
WHICH ALL CITIZENS AND THEIR SERVICE DOGS ARE EMBRACED. NOW, THEREFORE, I,
ROBERT MEDINA, MAYOR OF THE GREATEST CITY ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH WE CALL PALM BAY, DO HEREBY, BY VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY OF SAID OFFICE,
DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2025 AS NATIONAL SERVICE DOG MONTH IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL OUR CITIZENS TO CELEBRATE,
CELEBRATE TASC TRAINED DOGS AND BE RESPECTFUL OF THE RIGHTS AFFORDED TO THE ADULTS AFFORDED TO THE CHILDREN, AND AFFORDED TO ALL VETERANS WHO LEAD MORE INDEPENDENT LIVES
BECAUSE OF THEIR ASSISTANCE. 
          IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I SET MY HAND AND CAUSED THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY TO BE
AFFIXED THIS 18TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2025. REBECCA, COME ON UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          IF YOU SEE US OUT THERE, WE WOULD LOVE TO. IF THEY GOT ON A YELLOW VEST,
WE'D LOVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION. 
          THEY HAVE ON A BLUE VEST THEY'VE ACTUALLY BEEN PLACED ON AND THEY'LL TALK TO YOU. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, DON'T DISTRACT THE SERVICE DOGS THAT ARE WORKING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OH. CAN YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO DOWN THERE. YEAH, I KIND OF THINK SO TOO. 
          WE'RE GONNA COME DOWN. OH, YEAH. COME ON DOWN. GO DOWN THERE WITH YOU. 
          GO DOWN THERE. YES. WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. YOU WANNA COME? OVER HERE. OKAY, OKAY. NO. 
          YOU CAN'T SEE HER. OH, SORRY. NO. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING, I'M TRYING. I GOT YOU, I GOT YOU. OKAY. 
          EVERYBODY READY? ONE. TWO. THREE. THANK YOU. 
          SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE KEEPING SCORE, THERE ARE THERE IS NO PRESENTATION THAT WAS
PULLED. 
          AND SO WE ARE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING ITEM NUMBER ONE,
MADAM SMITH. 
          OH, AS YOU WERE. WE'RE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          [APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA:]
COUNCIL I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AS IS. 
          SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? GENTLEMEN? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. PASSES. ANY. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
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FIVE ZERO, MADAM SMITH. ANY. YES, SIR. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 28,
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 35,
AS AMENDED BY RESOLUTIONS 2025, DASH TEN 2025. THAT'S 20 AND 2025. THAT'S 26. 
          ADOPTING A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEARS 2024 THROUGH 2025
THROUGH 2028 THROUGH 2029 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTIAL RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR
AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. SO NOW WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          [PUBLIC HEARINGS:]
ITEM NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2025,
DASH 39, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AN ABANDONED PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY
AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 18 BLOCK 2014 PORT MALABAR UNIT 46. ACCORDING TO THE PLOT THEREOF AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 22,
PAGE 61 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
IT IS A REQUEST TO VACATE APPROXIMATELY 544FT² FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTION OF A SWIMMING POOL AND AN ENCLOSURE IN THE BACKYARD. 
          THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COUNCIL SEEING? NONE. ANY QUESTIONS AT ALL? NO. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS
ITEM? I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER. WELL, YOU WANT TO COME UP? COME ON UP,
SIR. 
          SURE. HOW YOU DOING THIS EVENING, SIR? DOING WELL. 
          AND YOU? JUST TRYING TO GET A POOL PUT IN, THAT'S ALL. SIR. 
          COPY THAT. COPY THAT. ANY ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN OR DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. YOU GOT ONE MORE GO WITH THIS,
SIR. 
          YES, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. 
          PUBLIC HEARINGS. MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 22, DASH 40,
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, VACATING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF THE REAR 20 FOOT PUBLIC
UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED WITHIN LOT 38, BLOCK 479, PORT PORT MALABAR. UNIT 12. ACCORDING TO THE PLOT THEREOF,
AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 15, PAGE 53 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF BREVARD COUNTY,
FLORIDA, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR,
CITY COUNCIL AGAIN, A REQUEST FOR VACATION OF AN EASEMENT FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONSTRUCTION OF AN IN-GROUND SWIMMING POOL IN THE BACKYARD. 
          THIS WOULD VACATE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT AREA OF APPROXIMATELY 680FT². 
          AND WE DO HAVE STAFF HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF. SEEING NONE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST
THIS ITEM, PLEASE STEP FORWARD. I'M SORT OF NEW TO THIS, SO WE JUST WANT TO GET A POOL BUILT. WHAT'S YOUR. 
          OKAY, SO YOU'RE THE APPLICANT. YOU. JOSEPH. WE'RE THE HOMEOWNERS. 
          OKAY. JOSEPH. IS IT? YES. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO, I JUST YOU KNOW, YOU NEED THE POOL. YEAH,
WE NEED THE POOL. 
          COPY THAT. SIR. ALRIGHT, LET ME SEE IF SOMEONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS
ITEM. 
          AND THEN I MAY HAVE YOU COME BACK. OKAY? OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. SIR? ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES. 
          IS ANY. OPPOSE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. YOU GOT ANOTHER BITE AT THIS? OKAY. YOU PASSED THE FIRST ONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. 
          CONGRATULATIONS. THUS FAR. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          MADAM SMITH, ARE WE ON NUMBER NINE? OH. AS YOU WERE THREE,
FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT, SEVEN AND EIGHT. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO NINE. 
          YES, MADAM SMITH, ORDNANCE 2025 DASH 43, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE 2045 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
DESIGNATION FROM PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC PSP TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LDR, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
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I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. 
          THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE STAFF HAS A PRESENTATION. 
          CORRECT. OKAY. YES. CARRY ON. MA'AM. GOOD EVENING. 
          FOR THE RECORD, ALTHEA JEFFERSON, ACTING GROWTH MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. 
          TODAY WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU A CASE THAT SITS ON APPROXIMATELY 2.8 ACRES. 
          YOU'RE PROBABLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS LOCATION. 
          IT'S THE CENTER POINT CHURCH. THEY'RE LOCATED OFF OF EMERSON AND MIRAGE AVENUE. 
          I'M SORRY. EMERALD. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP FROM PUBLIC
SEMIPUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. 
          THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS TEN ACRES. AND WE DO HAVE PROVISIONS FOR WATER AND SEWER SERVICES. 
          STAFF FOUND THE PROPOSAL CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ALSO CONSISTENT WITH
THE REVIEW CRITERIA THAT WE CALL THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS. THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU MA'AM. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? I'M GOING TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PRESENT THEIR CASE. 
          WAIT ONE QUESTION, MAYOR. YES, SIR. WHAT WAS THE. WHAT WAS THE VOTE FOR? PLANNING AND
ZONING. 4 TO 1. 
          4 TO 1. THANK YOU FOR APPROVAL. CORRECT? YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          HELLO, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMAN. MY NAME IS BILL PRICE. 
          I AM WITH PRICE FAMILY HOMES. WE ARE REPRESENTING,
THE PURCHASER AND DEVELOPER WORKING WITH CENTER POINT TO REZONE OR IN THIS CASE CHANGE THE LAND USE OF THIS PROPERTY. 
          IT'S CURRENTLY PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC AND WE'RE ASKING TO CHANGE IT TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO PRIMARILY SO WE PERMITTED TO BUILD RESIDENCES ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          AND I APPRECIATE STAFF'S REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION,
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO OF COURSE, YOU KNOW,
THIS IS JUST THE FIRST PART OF THAT. 
          THE THE OTHER IS THE TEN ACRES, RIGHT. SUBSEQUENTLY COMING ON. 
          YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO BE JOINING THESE TOGETHER. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR THE WHOLE PROJECT. 
          BOTH BOTH THIS NUMBER NINE AND NUMBER TEN TOGETHER WOULD BE TO MAKE A SINGLE DEVELOPMENT. 
          YES, I SEE. AND SO AND I'VE BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL. 
          I KNOW OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND I HAVE DISAGREED ON THIS A FEW TIMES,
BUT HE'S HE'S COME ON BOARD SOMETIMES. 
          WHY NOT MAKE OR BUILD ONE ACRE ESTATE HOMES. THAT THAT IS THE DENSITY THAT I FEEL
COMFORTABLE WITH. RIGHT? MAKE SOMETHING REALLY NICE WITHIN THAT AREA. 
          SO WHY WHY WOULDN'T YOU GUYS WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WELL, IN AREAS LIKE GRANT OR OUTSIDE OF PALM BAY,
WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE OF THOSE TYPE OF HOMES, YOU GET THE VALUE FOR THEM WHEN YOU SELL THEM. 
          BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF PALM BAY, SURROUNDED BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY,
YOU CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH VALUE FOR THE LAND ITSELF. 
          AND IF YOU WERE TO CUT THIS UP INTO ONE ACRE PIECES,
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE ECONOMIC REALITIES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO MAKE IT A VIABLE PROJECT. YEAH. THAT'S I BELIEVE IN, YOU KNOW,
IDEOLOGY WISE. 
          YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S WHERE THE DOWNFALL HAS COME,
WHERE WE'VE LOST THOSE ONE ACRE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? WELL, WHILE THE APPLICANT IS UP HERE,
I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          OH, OKAY. CARRY ON SIR. NO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM BY SHOW OF
HANDS? YOU'RE OKAY, SO RAISE THOSE HANDS, PLEASE. ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. YOU'RE NUMBER ONE. YOU GO NUMBER ONE. 
          OH, YES. OKAY. OH, PASTOR. PASTOR WALKER, I DIDN'T EVEN SEE YOU BACK THERE. 
          COME ON UP, PASTOR WALKER. AND THEN. SO JUST PUT PUT YOUR HANDS UP. 
          I'VE GOT PASTOR WALKER. YOU'RE NEXT. AND YELLOW. 
          I SAW SOMEONE RAISE THEIR HAND ON THAT. YOU'RE. 
          YOU'RE AFTER YOUNG LADY IN YELLOW, SIR. OKAY. 
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THE FIRST THREE. YOU'RE FOUR. CARRY ON. SIR. MAYOR. 
          COUNCILMAN. NICE TO BE WITH YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US. 
          APPRECIATE YOU HEARING OUR REQUEST. I HAVE A HAVE PASTOR DELGADO SENT ME HIS HIS SUPPORT AND A LETTER OF SUPPORT. HE DIDN'T GET IN ON TIME. 
          I BROUGHT A COPY FOR YOU IF YOU WANTED ONE. BUT ALLOW ME JUST TO READ SOMETHING THAT I
SENT TO EACH ONE OF YOU. 
          I'M NOT SURE YOU GOT A CHANCE TO READ IT. MAYBE YOU DID. MAYBE YOU DIDN'T. BUT I WANT TO
READ IT FOR ALL THAT ARE LISTENING AS WELL, SO WE CAN JUST GET IT ON THE RECORD. MY NAME IS REVEREND TOM WALKER,
AND WHILE I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF PALM BAY, I'VE BEEN PASTORING CENTERPOINT CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS. 
          FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS. CENTERPOINT, FORMERLY ZION CHRISTIAN CHURCH,
HAS BEEN A VITAL PART OF THIS COMMUNITY. 
          OVER THE YEARS, THE CHURCH HAS GROWN IN NUMBERS AND GROWN IN COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT. 
          I BELIEVE OUR OUR IMPACT CAN ONLY GROW STRONGER. 
          THE FACILITIES WE HAVE PRESENTLY HINDER THAT IMPACT. 
          WE'VE ELECTED TO SELL 13 PLUS ACRES OF OUR UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO HELP FUND OUR NEEDED
EXPANSION. 
          WE CHOSE TO SELL PRICE TO PRICE HOMES BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF THEIR WORK,
KNOWING IT WOULD ONLY ENHANCE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR RURAL USE ONLY. 
          THAT ZONING NO LONGER REFLECTS THE URBAN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUNDS THE CHURCH. 
          NOT ONLY WOULD THIS CHANGE STRENGTHENS PALM BAY TAX BASE,
BUT WOULD ALSO ADDRESS THE HOMELESS PROBLEM THAT WE AND OUR NEIGHBORS CONTINUALLY WRESTLE WITH. OUR INTENTION IS TO EXPAND OUR IMPACT BY ENLARGING AND IMPROVING OUR CAMPUS. 
          WE'LL ERECT A 500 SEAT SANCTUARY WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY. 
          IT WILL BE A MULTI-USE ROOM WITH LARGE FOYER THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE GREATER PALM
BAY COMMUNITY TO MAKE USE OF. 
          WE WILL REDESIGN OUR PRESENT FACILITY INTO A LARGE YOUTH CENTER AND EXPANDED CHILDREN'S
WINGS, GIVING BOTH CHILDREN AND TEENAGERS A SELF A SAFE,
HEALTHY AND SPIRITUALLY SOUND PLACE TO CONGREGATE. 
          WE ARE DOING ALL OF THIS FOR ONE REASON. IT IS OUR MANDATE TO INTRODUCE PEOPLE TO JESUS
CHRIST. 
          WITH ALL THE CHAOS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD IN BREVARD COUNTY AND SOME EVEN HERE AT HOME,
THE CHURCH'S INFLUENCE HAS TO GROW. 
          NOT JUST OUR CHURCH, BUT ALL CHRIST CENTERED CHURCHES. 
          I'M ASKING YOU TO HELP CENTER POINT DO OUR PART IN SUPPORTING THE SMALL SCALE,
COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE. 
          THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU. PASTOR TOM, AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU,
SIR. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU, MA'AM. YOU'RE NEXT. GOOD EVENING,
MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS VIRGINIA SIERRA AND I MOVED HERE IN 2004. 
          MY HUSBAND, A MARINE CORPS VETERAN, AND I MOVED HERE WITH OUR BRAND NEW BABY GIRL. 
          AND LIKE MANY FAMILIES, WE CAME HERE FOR WORK WITH NO FAMILY AND NO TIES. 
          CENTERPOINT CHURCH BECAME THAT TIE FOR US. WE HAVE BEEN A MEMBER THERE FOR 17 YEARS AND
CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE INTERIM CHILDREN'S DIRECTORS. 
          CENTERPOINT HAS SERVED PALM BAY FOR OVER 35 YEARS,
HOSTING NUMEROUS PUBLIC OUTREACH EVENTS PROVIDING A HOME FOR FAMILIES LIKE MINE. 
          THE LAND IN QUESTION HAS BEEN OWNED FOR OVER 25 YEARS,
AND HAS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED AND UNTAXED DURING THIS TIME. 
          THE POTENTIAL NEW HOMES COULD BRING AN ANNUAL REVENUE TO PALM BAY OF OVER $200,000. 
          WE PREVIOUSLY CONSIDERED SELLING TO A DEVELOPER PLANNING APARTMENTS,
BUT AFTER HEARING THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, THE CONTRACT FELL THROUGH. WE LISTENED, AND THIS TIME WE SELECTED PRICE FAMILY HOMES,
A LOCAL BUILDER WITH TIES TO THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY. 
          WE BELIEVE THEY WILL DEVELOP THE LAND IN A WAY THAT IS RESPECTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          HOWEVER, THE SALE DOES DEPEND ON THE REZONING. 
          WITHOUT IT, CENTERPOINT CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE TO EXPAND OUR
CURRENT FACILITY AND OUTREACH. 
          THE PROCEEDS WILL FUND A NEW SANCTUARY, ALLOWING US TO CONVERT OUR CURRENT BUILDING INTO A
DEDICATED CHILDREN AND YOUTH CENTER. 
          THE SPACE IS URGENTLY NEEDED. WE RUN PROGRAMS LIKE THE BIG IDEA IN LOCAL SCHOOLS,
TEACHING VIRTUES LIKE COURAGE, RESPECT AND PERSEVERANCE TO ELEMENTARY STUDENTS. 
          WE HOST, EMBRACE GRACE AND EMBRACE LIFE SUPPORTING EXPECTANT AND SINGLE MOTHERS WITH
RESOURCES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE ARE COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY. THE SALE ISN'T JUST ABOUT LAND,
IT'S ABOUT INVESTING IN PALM BAY'S FUTURE. 
          WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN APPROVING THE REZONING. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          THE YOUNG MAN BACK THERE. YOU'RE. YOU'RE UP. THANK YOU SIR. 
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COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR HEARING. HEARING ME. 
          MY NAME IS BRIER WYNETTE AND I LIVE DIRECTLY BACKED UP TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          MONEY. THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSITION COMES DOWN TO. 
          PRICE. FAMILY HOMES WILL CLAIM THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS AIMED TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY. 
          CENTERPOINT CHURCH WILL TRY TO TUG AT HEARTSTRINGS,
SPIN TRUTHS, AND MAKE LOFTY CLAIMS THAT THIS IS MEANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY'S CHILDREN. 
          BUT THAT IS NOT WHY EITHER OF THEM STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          THEY ARE HERE ONLY FOR SELF-SERVING REASONS. THEY SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A BUCK,
AND THEY'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO TAKE IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE REST OF US. 
          MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY I STAND BEFORE YOU,
NOR THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO ARE HERE. 
          WE AS ACTUAL TAXPAYERS COME HERE TODAY TO PROTECT THE LONG TERM INTEGRITY OF THIS
COMMUNITY. 
          ANYONE WHO HAS SPENT TIME ON OUR STREET CAN PLAINLY SEE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT MAKES NO
SENSE IN THIS LOCATION, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A BANKROLLED SO-CALLED EXPERT TO TELL US SO. 
          IF THIS WERE TRULY GOING TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY,
WE WOULD BE HERE CHAMPIONING THE CAUSE. 
          BUT WE ARE FORCED TO STAND AND FIGHT. REPRESENTATIVES OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH STOOD IN THIS
VERY CHAMBER JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND LIED, STATING HOW THEY CHOSE THIS PARTICULAR BUILDER BECAUSE THEY CARE ABOUT US AND WANT TO HELP
PRESERVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          AS IF THEY DID NOT JUST TRY TO SELL THIS SAME LAND OFF TO A MEGA DEVELOPER FOR AN
APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          IT WAS ONLY THANKS TO THE DILIGENT AND THOUGHTFUL REPRESENTATIVES OF BOTH THIS COUNCIL AND
THE ZONING BOARD THAT IT WAS STOPPED. 
          IF YOU VISIT THE CHURCH'S WEBSITE RIGHT NOW,
THERE IS A VIDEO AVAILABLE TO SHOW WHAT THE CHURCH PLANS TO DO WITH THE MONEY FROM THE SALE OF THIS LAND. THEY PLAN TO BUILD A MEGACHURCH STYLE BUILDING COMPLETE WITH A COFFEE
SHOP, AIR HOCKEY TABLE AND A MOVIE THEATER. TO THEM,
THIS IS WELL WORTH THE PRICE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WOULD THESE AREAS BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY? NO. ONLY IF YOU JOIN THEIR CONGREGATION AND GIVE 10% OF YOUR INCOME IN TITHING,
AS IS RECOMMENDED ON THEIR WEBSITE. 
          MONEY THAT GOES STRAIGHT INTO THE CHURCH'S POCKETS. 
          THE CHURCH ALSO TRIES TO USE THE HOMELESS, WHO SOMETIMES CAMP ON THIS LAND,
AS A JUSTIFICATION FOR ITS DEVELOPMENT. 
          BUT THEY COULD EASILY DO AS ANYONE ELSE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD,
TO SECURE THEIR PROPERTY AND BUILD A FENCE. 
          THE CHURCH WOULD ONLY CONSIDER SOLUTIONS THAT THEY WON'T BE REQUIRED TO CONTRIBUTE TO. 
          ALL THEY'VE TRIED THUS FAR IS USING THE PALM BAY POLICE FORCE'S VALUABLE TIME AND
RESOURCES, WHICH THEY DO NOT PAY TAXES FOR, TO DO WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING THEMSELVES. 
          THEIR LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT A REASON TO APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND SO I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO SIDE WITH THE CONSTITUENCY AND NOT WITH THE SELLERS OR
DEVELOPERS WHO WILL NOT HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THIS PROPOSITION, AS WE WILL. I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF MUCH OF THE GOOD WORK THIS COUNCIL HAS
DONE LATELY, AND WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR IT AND ASK THAT YOU CONTINUE WITH THAT GOOD WORK BY VOTING
NO ON THIS ZONING CHANGE, AND NO TO THE DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE. A YES HERE IS A PERMANENT AND WILL FOREVER RESHAPE
THIS CITY FOR THE WORSE. 
          VOTING NAY LEAVES THIS LAND OPEN FOR FUTURE USAGE IN A WAY THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH
THE EXISTING ZONING OF THE COMMUNITY, AND INTEGRATE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND A COHESIVE WAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          THERE WAS A THERE WAS A SOMEONE WITH A HAT ON THIS SIDE. 
          WAS THAT YOU? YOU'RE NEXT. KEEP YOUR HANDS UP,
FOLKS. 
          SO THAT WAY I START NUMBERING YOU. THIS GENTLEMAN. 
          YOU'RE NEXT, THEN YOU'RE MISS TRAMMELL, YOU'RE NEXT. 
          AND THEN RUTH, YOU'RE AFTER MISS TRAMMELL. WE HAVE CARDS IN THERE. 
          WELL, WE DON'T NEED THE CARDS, MA'AM. YOU NEED THE CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER TEN. 
          THAT'S FOR ITEM NUMBER NINE. WE YOU GET CALLED TO THE PODIUM. 
          WELL, MA'AM, I'LL EXPLAIN IT LATER. BUT FOR NUMBER NINE,
YOU DON'T NEED A CARD. 
          FOR NUMBER TEN. YOU WOULD. I'M SORRY, SIR. CARRY ON. 
          DON SKOBO, TWO TWO, TWO CAVAN AVENUE, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THIS IN MY BACKYARD? WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS,
FIRST OF ALL, LOOK AT THE ROAD. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THESE CARDS COMING OUT INTO A SIDE STREET. 
          NOT A NOT MALABAR ROAD. WE'RE GOING TO A SIDE STREET. 
          THERE'S A HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET 30FT AWAY. 
          SO LET'S SAY SEVEN, 10:00 IN THE MORNING, WE'LL PUT 20 CARS GOING OUT THERE MAKING A RIGHT
TURN, TRYING TO GET AROUND COPELY WITH THE CHURCHES OR DOUGLAS AND THEN POP OUT ONTO MALABAR. 
          EMERSON DRIVE. AND IF YOU'RE HEADING NORTH, YOU AIN'T NEVER GOING TO GET THERE. 
          BECAUSE THIS MORNING I DO HEAD SOUTH. SO I SEE WHAT'S COMING NORTH. 
          OKAY. IF YOU WERE ON JUPITER AT 7:00 THIS MORNING,
YOU DID NOT GET TO MALABAR ROAD TILL AT LEAST 20 AFTER YOU HAD AT LEAST THREE TRAFFIC LIGHTS. MAKE THAT RIGHT TURN. START HEADING TOWARDS 95. 
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YOU NOW HAVE SAN FILIPPO COMING IN TODAY, WHICH IS ALSO BACKED UP AT THAT TIME. 
          IN THE MORNING YOU HAVE BABCOCK COMING INTO MALABAR,
HEADING TOWARDS 95. 
          SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET ALL THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE? LAST TIME WE WERE HERE,
NO ONE, NO ONE ASKED HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THEY DIDN'T SAY THAT. AND SOMEONE SAID THAT IT WAS IT WAS APPROVED THE LAST TIME WASN'T
APPROVED. 
          I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO. THEY VOTED NO ON THAT. 
          I SAW THE VOTE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHO'S SAYING IT'S APPROVED. 
          THEY VOTED NO AT THAT TIME UNLESS I'M WRONG. AND I WAS AT THE WRONG MEETING. 
          BUT I WAS HERE ALSO TO PREACH. THE PASTOR DOES NOT LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE WOMAN WHO WAS HERE BEFORE. SHE DOES NOT LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE BUILDER DOES NOT LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE FROM CENTERPOINT CHURCH THAT LIVE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE HERE
TONIGHT TO SAY THIS IS GOOD FOR YOU, DON. THIS IS GOING TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE BETTER. 
          THIS IS GOING TO MAKE YOUR WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER. 
          WHERE ARE THOSE PEOPLE? WHY IS IT ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STANDING HERE LIVE OUTSIDE THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, TELLING ME WHAT'S GOOD FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD? LOOK AT THE ROAD COMING OUT. 
          IF THERE'S A FIRE, WHO GETS THE RIGHT AWAY? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BURNING,
COMING OUT OR TO FLY A TRUCK GOING IN TO STOP THE PEOPLE FROM BURNING. 
          WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH MALABAR ROAD OR EVEN EMERSON. 
          WE'RE DEALING WITH, LIKE, A TWO LANE NOTHING. 
          AND THAT ROAD THEY'RE DUMPING YOU OUT ON, IT'S PROBABLY ONLY 30FT WIDE,
MAYBE 30FT WIDE. 
          OKAY. SO YOU'RE GOING TO DRIVE THESE CARS RIGHT INTO THIS GUY'S DRIVEWAY,
AND YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? IF IT'S ONE ACRE ZONING, LET HIM PUT IN THERE EIGHT HOUSES OR SEVEN HOUSES. 
          THE LAST TIME THE BUILDER EVEN SAID, OH, HOW DO I GET A. 
          HE HAD TO GO FOR AN EXTRA ZONING, HE SAID, WHICH HE DIDN'T HAVE YET FOR ANOTHER ROAD FOR A
FIRE TRUCK TO COME IN AND OUT OF. 
          WHERE'S THAT ZONE? WHEN DID HE GET THAT? HE DIDN'T GET IT YET. 
          HE EVEN ADMITTED IT, ASKED HIM TO COME BACK UP HERE. 
          HE SAID, WELL, LAST TIME, RIGHT IN FRONT OF US,
THAT HE DID NOT HAVE ANOTHER WAY IN AND OUT OF THAT, AND HE WAS GOING TO HAVE TO ASK FOR ANOTHER ZONING VARIANCE AFTER YOU APPROVE THIS. 
          I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? I MEAN, IF THERE'S A FIRE,
WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THESE KIDS THAT THEY THAT DIE BACK THERE? HAS ANYBODY DONE A TRAFFIC REPORT ON THESE 20 OR 30 CARS AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING,
HIT IN EMERSON? I DIDN'T SEE NO TRAFFIC REPORT. NO ONE'S DONE IT YET. 
          WHY THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHO WAS NEXT? WAS THAT SIR IN THE BLACK SHIRT? YOU WERE NEXT. 
          AND THEN MISS TRENT, AND THEN RUTH. 
          GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS BRIAN HUMPHRIES. I LIVE AT 967 EMERALD ROAD. 
          I ACTUALLY BORDER BOTH OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS HERE. 
          I'M THE LAST LOT ON THE BLOCK. I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO VOTE NO ON CP 25 003. 
          THE REQUEST IS TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM SEMIPUBLIC TO LOW DENSITY. 
          THE PUBLIC SEMI PUBLIC SEMIPUBLIC DESIGNATION IS NOT ONLY A LABEL EXISTS TO ENSURE CERTAIN
PARCELS REMAIN DEDICATED TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SERVING USES CHURCHES, SCHOOLS OR CIVIC FACILITIES. 
          WHEN I BUILT MY HOME, I RELIED ON THIS DESIGNATION. 
          I UNDERSTOOD THAT THE CHURCH MIGHT EXPAND, AND I ACCEPTED THAT BECAUSE THIS SERVES THE
PUBLIC. 
          WHAT I DID NOT EXPECT WAS FOR THIS LAND TO BE FLIPPED TO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT,
TO BECOME HOMES. 
          APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT UNDERMINES THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          NEIGHBORS MAKE LIFE DECISIONS BASED ON THESE LAND USE MAPS. 
          IF PSP CAN BE CONVERTED OR CONVERTED TO RESIDENTIAL WHENEVER CONVENIENT,
THEN THE PLAN BECOMES MEANINGLESS. 
          THAT ERODES TRUST. APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT UNDERMINES THE INTEGRITY. 
          SORRY. THE LAND ALSO FUNCTIONS AS A GREEN SPACE BUFFER. 
          PSP PROPERTIES OFTEN PROVIDE SEPARATION BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND MORE INTENSE USES. 
          OFTEN THIS DESIGNATION IS CHANGED OR ONCE THIS DESIGNATION IS CHANGED. 
          THAT BUFFER IS GONE. WHAT WAS MEANT TO REMAIN A COMMUNITY SERVING OPEN EDGE WILL INSTEAD
BECOME DRIVEWAYS AND ROOFTOPS. 
          THIS IS BEING DESCRIBED AS JUST EIGHT HOMES,
BUT IT CANNOT BE SEPARATED FROM THE 41 LOT SUBDIVISION TIED TO XHP 25 OR Z Z25 003 CP 25 IS THE DOORWAY TO THIS PROJECT,
DESPITE THE FACT THAT PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD ALREADY RECOMMENDED THIS DENIAL FOR THE ZONING FOR THE REZONING. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS MEANT TO ENSURE STABILITY,
CONSISTENCY, AND COMMUNITY BELIEF OR BENEFIT. APPROVING CP 20 503 DISREGARDS THAT PURPOSE AND SETS
PRECEDENT TO INSTITUTIONAL LAND THAT CAN BE LIQUIDATED FOR PRIVATE GAIN. FOR THE SAKE OF THE PLAN OR GOOD PLANNING AND PUBLIC TRUST. 
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I URGE, RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. TRUNDLE. OH, COME ON UP. 
          WELL, I WASN'T PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT THIS,
BUT IT GOES RIGHT TO WHAT MY PUBLIC COMMENTS CARD WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT. 
          SENATE BILL 180 MADE IT VERY STRICT ON CHANGING YOUR LAND,
USE, YOUR REZONING AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 
          THIS COULD VERY WELL START. WELL, LET ME SAY SB 180 ALLOWS ANY PROPERTY OWNER TO SUE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IF DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT THEY DISLIKE. 
          THAT MEANS ANYBODY BY CHANGING YOUR LAND, USE YOUR REZONING YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU MAY BE OPEN TO A LAWSUIT. AND SO I'M JUST BRINGING THAT. 
          AND ALSO, I WATCHED PLANNING AND ZONING. I BELIEVE THEY HE DENIED THIS. 
          I THINK IT WAS 4 TO 1. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S. I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION. 
          I HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENTS ON SB 180, SO THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU, MISS COUNCIL. 
          GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
CITY MANAGER AND STAFF. 
          PALM BAY, FLORIDA. MY NAME IS RUTH COFIELD AND I RESIDE AT 935 DOUGLAS STREET SOUTHEAST. 
          RECENT HISTORY OF CENTER POINT CHURCH AND ITS SINCERITY. 
          OH! MAN, WHAT A BUDDY. YOU'RE LOSING YOUR TIME. MA'AM, YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON,
ON ON THE RECORD THERE. 
          THIS IS THE LAST TIME THAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE SINCERITY OF THE. 
          AND THE COMMUNITY MINDEDNESS OF THIS CHURCH. PREVIOUSLY,
THEY WANTED TO PUT IN FOUR LARGE BUILDINGS EQUAL TO 192 UNITS, EQUAL TO 384 CARS RUNNING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE GOT THAT REJECTED. TODAY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE,
WHICH IS NOT THE SAME PICTURE THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET FOR THE CURRENT THING THAT THE BUILDER WANTS TO DO. THIS IS THE PICTURE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO WITH US AT THE MEETING. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY PICTURE THAT I BROUGHT TODAY. 
          AND THE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE IT IN STOCK RIGHT NOW. 
          SO THANK YOU. BUTCH. THE CENTERPOINT CENTERPOINT CHURCH WANTS TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING FOR
OVER $3 MILLION. 
          BUT TO ACHIEVE THAT, IT NEEDS TO SELL 12 ACRE PROPERTY FOR AT LEAST $1.5 MILLION,
PUTTING THE CHURCH IN DEBT. 
          THE CURRENT BUILDING HAS BEEN MAINTAINED AT LEAST AMOUNT EFFORT TO PASS INSPECTION. 
          THIS IS MY EXPERIENCES WITH THE CHURCH. I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THE FOOD BANK WAS
SHUT DOWN AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS NOT BEEN RESTARTED. THE BUILDING THAT THE FOOD BANK DID USE WAS TORN DOWN DUE TO
DISREPAIR. 
          BACKPACK PROGRAM THAT SERVED THE COMMUNITY HAS YET TO BE RESTARTED. 
          TO MY KNOWLEDGE. THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE CHURCH CLAIMED TO REBUILD THE PLAYGROUND. 
          IF THE REZONING IS PASSED, WHY HASN'T THE CHURCH REBUILT THE PLAYGROUND ALREADY? IT WAS A GOOD ADDITION THAT WAS USED BY THE COMMUNITY,
WAS TORN DOWN TO DISREPAIR PRIOR TO 2022. 
          CURRENT LIFT STATION THAT'S CHURCH'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IS IN CONSTANT STATE OF
DISREPAIR. 
          THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED FOR A NEW HOA CURRENTLY HAS A HOMELESS PROBLEM. 
          THE CHURCH WANTS TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO ALLEVIATE ITSELF OF BEING RESPONSIBLE NEIGHBOR.
BY PUSHING THIS PROBLEM INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I RECEIVED A NOTICE FROM ANOTHER BUILDER THAT THEY WANT TO SELL THE PROPERTY, BUILD EIGHT HOUSES AND AN HOA WITH ONLY 26 HOUSES,
BUT THE BUILDER CLAIMS THAT THIS MUST BE DESIGNED THAT WAY DUE TO FLORIDA LAW. THAT SPECIFIC LAW HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED. 
          IF IT SELLS THE PROPERTY, THE HOMELESS PROBLEM WILL THEN BE A PROBLEM OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
AND OUR SAFETY WILL BE IN JEOPARDY. 
          INSTEAD OF CLEARING THE LAND AND MAINTAINING IT AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR IS SUPPOSED TO DO,
WE BELIEVE THE PATTERN OF NEGLECT WILL CONTINUE AND THE LIP SERVICE BEING GIVEN WILL RESULT IN NO NEIGHBORLY ACTIONS. AND WILL WE BE LEFT WITH THE MESS? THE STAFF REVIEWING THIS PROJECT DID SO IN ERROR,
AS THERE ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT PICTURES IN THE PROJECT PACKET, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO DISCLOSURES TO THE FUTURE RESIDENTS THAT THE HOA WOULD BE ACTUALLY
PAYING FOR. 
          PLEASE REJECT BOTH ORDINANCES CHANGES, PLEASE. 
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THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. YES, SIR. BY SHOW OF HANDS. 
          WHO WANTS TO SPEAK NEXT AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, BILL, YOU'RE NEXT. AND THE YOUNG LADY BEHIND YOU IS AFTER YOU. 
          PAT, I COULDN'T SEE. CARRY ON. SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          MY NAME IS STEVE PETTY. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU AND JUST GIVE MY
INPUT REGARDING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          I WAS HERE TWO WEEKS AGO AS THINGS WERE DISCUSSED AND WANTED TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WERE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I KNOW PART OF THAT COMMITTEE EVEN EXPRESSED NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT WAS
AND BEING CONFUSED ABOUT THE SITUATION. 
          FIRST OF ALL, THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE EIGHT LOTS THAT ARE ON EMERALD,
THE TOTAL IS 41 HOUSES. 
          SO IT'S NOT 41 HOUSES IN THAT TEN ACRE PARCEL THAT IS BEHIND THE EIGHT ALONG EMERALD ARE
PART OF THAT. 
          AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT RURAL RESIDENTIAL WOULD ALLOW US TO DEVELOP AS MANY AS TEN
HOMES ON THAT PROPERTY OF THE TEN ACRES AS WELL. 
          SO SIMPLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS TO INCREASE THAT BY 23 HOMES. 
          THAT IS THE TOTAL SUM OF CHANGE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING IN THIS,
WHETHER IT IS THE 33 HOMES THAT GO BEHIND OR IT IS THE TEN HOMES AND ACCESS ROAD WILL HAVE TO GO IN EITHER WAY, THAT CANNOT BE WORKED AROUND. 
          AND I KNOW I UNDERSTAND THE PASSION OF WANTING TO LEAVE AS MUCH GREEN THERE AS POSSIBLE. 
          IT IS NOT WITHIN THE CHURCH'S PLAN TO ELIMINATE ALL THE GREEN,
THE TREES THAT YOU SEE BEHIND THOSE EIGHT PARCELS, THAT AREA THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY PLANNED TO HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT OR CHANGE ON IT. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE GREENERY REMAINING THAT WOULD STAY PART OF THAT COMMUNITY. 
          IT IS THE TEN ACRES THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED THAT WE ARE REALLY FOCUSING ON. 
          AND WHILE PLANS HAVE CHANGED, IT HAS NOT BEEN TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CHURCH BECAUSE THE
OFFERS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED BEFORE WERE MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH AS WHAT WE ARE AGREEING TO TO SELL THE LAND FOR AT THIS POINT IN TIME. SO WE DID LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE
THOSE CHANGES SO THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD FALL IN LINE WITH SINGLE STORY HOMES LIKE THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AND FIT IN APPROPRIATELY. 
          I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO JUST A SECOND. I. I HAVE A QUESTION.
SURE. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE PROPERTY IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          I KNOW THIS IS JUST ONE ITEM. IT'S JUST ONE PIECE OF THAT. 
          THEN COMES THE TEN ACRES, RIGHT? BUT THIS IS WHERE IT'S PART OF THE COMP PLAN THAT IT
SHOULDN'T BE. 
          SO MY MY QUESTION WOULD BE THEY ARE ONE ACRE LOTS,
RIGHT. 
          ITEM NUMBER TEN. THE TEN ACRES ARE ONE ACRES COULD CURRENTLY BE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          THEY ARE ONE ACRE LOTS. THE WAY IT STANDS. RIGHT. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS RIGHT. AND I ASKED THE MR. PRICE RIGHT. 
          OR THE GENTLEMAN THAT REPRESENT REPRESENTS PRICE HOMES IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU HAD,
DID YOU CONSIDER HALF ACRE LOTS? I CANNOT SAY THAT I WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          OKAY. TO KNOW OR REMEMBER THE FULL DETAILS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING LOTS TO DO 20
INSTEAD OF TEN, CORRECT. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE EVER HAD A BUILDER THAT DECIDED THAT IT WOULD EVEN BE WORTH
THAT SIZE. 
          DEVELOPMENT. SO I CAN'T CAN'T TELL YOU FOR SURE WHAT THAT WAS. 
          YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. 
          MISS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FROM SIR? COME ON BACK,
SIR. 
          YOU GOT ANOTHER QUESTION? COUNCILMAN HAMMER. SURE. 
          WAS THERE A THOUGHT OF MAKING IT SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS,
LIKE A SCHOOL OR POSSIBLY SOME KIND OF BUSINESS? THAT'S FAITH BASED BUSINESS THAT IS FAITH BASED? NO, THAT HAS NOT BEEN PART OF THE DISCUSSION. 
          I'M GOING TO MENTION SOMETHING HERE THAT I WASN'T REALLY PLANNING ON TALKING ABOUT AND
MIGHT GET DAGGERS FROM MY PASTOR HERE AT THE MOMENT. 
          THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THAT WOULD BE OPEN TO US,
THAT EVEN HAS PEOPLE WILLING TO CONSIDER. 
          IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO DO THIS, THEN WE DO NOT HAVE ANOTHER MEANS THAT A DEVELOPMENT SEEMS
REASONABLE TO A BUILDER AT THIS TIME, AND BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT WE ARE CALLED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THIS COMMUNITY AND
GROW THIS MINISTRY. 
          THE NEXT THING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE WOULD BE THE YES IN GOD'S BACKYARD APPROACH, WHICH IS THE LAW THAT CAME INTO EFFECT THIS YEAR THAT THE STATE HAD PASSED,
THAT SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCES ZONING RESTRICTIONS AND WOULD ALLOW US TO DEVELOP THAT AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S NOT BEEN OUR FIRST FOCUS,
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES WOULD LIKE THAT EITHER. 
          BUT THAT WOULD BE A HIGHER DENSITY AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          OKAY. STAND FAST. I'VE GOT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE HAS ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          REALLY? MINE'S MORE JUST A STATEMENT. WHEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS CHANGED IN,
THE LDC CODE WAS UPDATED. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BUILD A SCHOOL ON THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. 
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AS YOU WERE. CARRY ON. SIR. THANKS. MASTER CHIEF. 
          BILL BATTEN 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
          SO WHEN YOU START CHANGING FROM PUBLIC AND SEMIPUBLIC LAND AND YOU START CHANGING IT INTO
RESIDENTIAL LAND, FIRST THING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS YOUR DENSITY AND DENSITY IS GOING TO INCREASE. 
          BUT THINKING ABOUT THAT CONSTANTLY, I HEAR COUNCIL SAYING,
WHERE IS OUR CHURCH GOING TO BE? YOU KNOW ME, I'M NOT THAT BIG RELIGIOUS PERSON,
BUT I DO KNOW THAT I'LL SPEAK IN CHIEF IN THE MAYOR'S BEHALF IN THIS CASE. 
          HE'S CONSTANTLY ASKING ABOUT FOR MORE CHURCHES. 
          SO IF YOU CHANGE THAT PUBLIC AND SEMIPUBLIC LAND TO LDL OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL,
THERE'S NO CHANCE OF BUILDING A CHURCH THERE EVER. THAT'S THE FIRST ONE. 
          THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE. SINCE THIS WAS FOR THE SALE TO BUILD SOMETHING ELSE ON CENTER
POINTE CHURCH, WHAT WAS THE LAND SALE? WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF THE LAND SALE PROFIT OR THE COST OF IT THAT
THEY GOT? WOULD THAT HAVE IF THEY WOULD HAVE JUST SOLD THE LAND FOR KEEPING KEEPING THE LAND FOR
ANOTHER CHURCH, OR SELL THE LAND TO A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL? THEY COULD STILL GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY
WITHOUT HAVING TO CHANGE THE DENSITY OF THE CHURCH. 
          THEY WOULD MEET THEIR OBJECTIVE AND THE RESIDENTS WOULD MEET THEIR OBJECTIVE IF YOU DIDN'T
CHANGE IT. 
          SO JUST FOR CURIOSITY'S SAKE, KEEP IT DOWN. KEEP IT ZONED AS PUBLIC AND SEMIPUBLIC. 
          THAT WAY YOU CAN HAVE A CHURCH ON IT. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE TEN ACRES,
WHICH IS ANOTHER VOTE COMING UP, GO AHEAD AND KEEP THAT RURAL RESIDENTIAL, BECAUSE I PROMISE YOU,
THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ONE ACRE RANCH SITES AROUND THIS TOWN THAT THEY COULD ENJOY. IT'S A NICE LOCATION. PEOPLE SAY,
I WISH I HAD MORE LAND. 
          SO WHAT DID THEY END UP HAVING TO DO? THEY HAVE TO BUY 2 OR 3 LOTS AT $50,000 A LOT,
WHEN THEY COULD HAVE BOUGHT ONE ACRE FOR $40,000. JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND, FOLKS. THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER AND SHOW OF HANDS. WHO? WHO'S SPEAKING? YOUNG LADY BACK THERE. OH, PAT. 
          PAT WAS UP, SO KEEP. MA'AM. MA'AM? IN THE. ARE YOU IN GREEN? OKAY. AND SO YOU'RE NEXT. AND THEN THE YOUNG LADY TO MY LEFT. 
          YOU'RE AFTER THE YOUNG LADY IN GREEN. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          CARRY ON. PAT. GOOD EVENING. PAT. DAPPER, 14 GEORGE'S AVENUE,
NORTHEAST. 
          I AM A MEMBER OF CENTER POINT. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHURCH GROWTH,
BUT I'M ALSO AND HAVE BEEN A AND NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE SINCE 2020. BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD,
I SPENT TIME AT THE COMPREHENSIVE MEETINGS. 
          I'VE SPENT TIME HERE AT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS,
AND I HEAR YOU, MAYOR, TALKING ABOUT ACRE LOTS TALKING ABOUT BETTER LAND. 
          WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE CHANGING ZONING. SO IN THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS,
WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS TO CHANGE THE ZONING. 
          AND WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE ZONING. 
          WHY CAN'T WE JUST KEEP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IS? AND THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO BRING UP,
AND I THINK IT'LL BE IN THE NEXT ROUND, IT'S ABOUT THE IMPACT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ON THE WATER AND SEWER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC,
NOT JUST SAFETY OR ONE WAY IN OR OUT, BUT WE GOT A WATER AND SEPTIC PROBLEM. SO I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO THE PASTOR ABOUT WHAT MY
THOUGHTS ARE. 
          I BELIEVE THE CHURCH SHOULD KEEP THE LAND AND GROW WITH IT. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MA'AM. 
          HI. MY NAME IS DENISE BILLETS AND I RESIDE AT TWO,
TWO, TWO. 
          CAVAN AVENUE. MY BACK MY BACK PORCH LOOKS OUT ONTO THE OTHER HIGH RISE THAT GOT PART OF
THE CHURCH'S LAND. I WANT TO SAY, AND I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS,
BUT I WAS AT THE PNC MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          IT WAS A VERY, VERY GOOD MEETING, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND
FORTH. 
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HOWEVER, AT THE VERY, VERY END, ONE OF THE ONE OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS SPOKE ABOUT GREEN
AREAS IN PALM BAY, HOW THERE ARE VERY FEW GREEN AREAS IN PALM BAY AND THAT WE SHOULD CHERISH THE ONES THAT WE
COULD POSSIBLY HAVE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND, IF THERE'S A POSSIBLE WAY IF THE CITY MIGHT CONSIDER THEMSELVES
PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AND PUTTING A PARK THERE. NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. THERE IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK FOR THAT
SUBDIVISION OR THAT AREA AT ALL. 
          AND I'M THINKING THAT THE NEAREST PARK IS OVER ACROSS EMERSON DOWN,
DOWN A WAYS. 
          SO IF THERE WAS A NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BENEFIT EVERYBODY,
I REALLY THINK THAT MAYBE THE CITY COULD LOOK INTO THAT. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MA'AM. YOU'RE NEXT. 
          GOOD EVENING. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. 
          MY NAME IS SHAWNEE WYNETTE, AND I'M A HOMEOWNER ON EMERALD ROAD. 
          THIS PIECE OF LAND IS NOT JUST ANOTHER VACANT LOT. 
          IT IS THE LAST NATURAL BARRIER SEPARATING PALM BAY COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR FROM OUR
NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          ONCE THIS BARRIER IS GONE, THERE IS NO CLEAR LINE BETWEEN COMMERCIAL SPRAWL AND
RESIDENTIAL LIVING. 
          ZONING DECISIONS LIKE THIS ONE PERMANENTLY RESHAPE THE CHARACTER OF OUR CITY. 
          AND I ASK YOU TO CONTINUE OR TO CONSIDER THE LONG TERM CONSEQUENCES NOT TO BE A BROKEN
RECORD, BUT TRAFFIC AND INFRASTRUCTURE. ADDING 40 HOMES WILL ABSOLUTELY IMPACT TRAFFIC. 
          THE SMALL RESIDENTIAL ROADS IN THIS AREA WERE NEVER DESIGNED FOR THAT BURDEN. 
          THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, NO STREET LIGHTS, NOT EVEN ENOUGH WIDTH FOR TWO CARS TO PASS
SAFELY. 
          HUNDREDS OF NEW DAILY TRIPS WILL FUNNEL THROUGH ALREADY STRAINED STREETS,
SLOWING RESPONSE, RAISING ACCIDENT RISKS AND EVENTUALLY FORCING COSTLY UPGRADES TAXPAYERS WILL HAVE TO COVER
NEXT. 
          LIGHT AND NOISE POLLUTION. THIS LAND CURRENTLY SERVES AS A BUFFER,
SOFTENING THE SOUNDS AND LIGHTS FROM THE MALABAR COMMERCIAL AREA. 
          IF IT'S REPLACED WITH A SUBDIVISION, RESIDENTS WILL NOT ONLY ENDURE YEARS OF NOISY
CONSTRUCTION BUT WILL PERMANENTLY LOSE THAT SHIELD. 
          CONSTRUCTION NOISE, TRAFFIC AND LIGHTING WILL INTRUDE DEEPER INTO NEIGHBORHOODS,
REDUCING PRIVACY, LOWERING PROPERTY VALUES AND MAKING THIS AREA LESS DESIRABLE TO LIVE. 
          THIRD, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY CHARACTER. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING GREEN SPACES IN
THIS PART OF PALM BAY, HOME TO WILDLIFE INCLUDING THE GOPHER TORTOISE. 
          INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN SENSITIVE HABITATS CAN ACTUALLY BE MORE DESTRUCTIVE THAN SPRAWL,
BECAUSE IT WIPES OUT THE LAST GREEN ISLANDS THAT KEEP THESE LOCAL POPULATIONS VIABLE. 
          THESE ANIMALS CANNOT SIMPLY RELOCATE. DISPLACEMENT LEADS TO COLLAPSE,
AND RESIDENTS ARE LEFT WITH MORE NUISANCE WILDLIFE, HOTTER TEMPERATURES, AND INCREASED FLOOD RISKS. 
          GREEN SPACE IS NOT A LUXURY. IT PROVIDES CRITICAL COOLING,
DRAINAGE AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS. 
          I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS OCCASIONALLY CAMPING HERE,
BUT DEVELOPMENT WOULD ONLY BE DISPLACEMENT. 
          IT DOES NOTHING TO RESOLVE HOMELESSNESS. THESE INDIVIDUALS WILL SIMPLY BE HOMELESS AND IN
BURDEN. 
          THE COMMUNITY, THE NEXT STREET OVER, THEY'LL SIMPLY BE FORCED TO TO MOVE. 
          A MORE EFFECTIVE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO PARTNER WITH SOCIAL SERVICES AND NOT ERASE ONE OF
THE LAST NATURAL BUFFERS OUR CITY HAS. 
          ZONING IS ABOUT BALANCE, ABOUT MAKING CHOICES THAT PROTECT RESIDENTS,
PRESERVING QUALITY OF LIFE, AND ENSURING LONG TERM SUSTAINABLE GROWTH GROWTH. 
          APPROVING THE REZONING TIPS THAT BALANCE IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. 
          JUST BECAUSE LAND APPEARS VACANT CERTAINLY DOES NOT MEAN IT'S UNUSED. 
          IT'S PROVIDING ECOLOGICAL, ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY VALUE THAT,
ONCE LOST, CANNOT BE REPLACED. 
          I URGE YOU, PLEASE PRESERVE THIS PROPERTY AT ITS CURRENT ZONING. 
          KEEP THE BARRIER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL INTACT AND PROTECT BOTH THE PEOPLE AND
WILDLIFE OF PALM BAY. 
          DO NOT CURVE TO CAVE TO THEIR THREATS TO SIDESTEP THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL AND PRESS ON
REGARDLESS. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT THIS AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR US. 
          PLEASE DENY THE ZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT SPEAKER. DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE SPEAKERS? PASTOR. PASTOR WALKER, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT. 
          I'LL WAIT. OR. MR. PRICE. COME ON UP. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I'LL WAIT TILL AFTER EVERYBODY. OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS YOU KNOW,
THEY WERE THEY WERE THERE FIRST. 
          AND NOW I'M COMING ALONG, GOING TO DISRUPT THEIR LIVES WITH,
LIKE THEY SAID, YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION AND EQUIPMENT COMING IN, 
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MEN MATERIAL. BUT AT THE END OF IT, WHAT'S GOING TO BE LEFT IS A BEAUTIFUL SUBDIVISION,
A COMMUNITY ADDING TO THE COMMUNITY INCREASING THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, INCREASING THE CHARACTER MATCHING THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. 
          THE THE THE LAND THAT'S THERE IS NOT BEING PUT TO ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE,
YOU KNOW, BY BY COMING IN AND PUTTING IN HOMES FOR MORE FAMILIES, FOR PALM BAY, WHICH WE'RE ALL ALWAYS IN NEED OF. 
          IT SEEMS I FEEL LIKE I'M REALLY SERVING MY COMMUNITY IN THAT PURPOSE. 
          I DO KNOW THE CONCERNS YOU SHARED ABOUT THE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THAT. IT'S I WANT TO EXPAND ON MY ECONOMIC VIABILITY. 
          YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE SEWER SERVICES, AND THE COST OF PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES WOULD
BE BURDENSOME. 
          AT THE AT THE PRICE OF THE LAND VALUE WOULD MAKE THOSE THOSE INDIVIDUAL ONE ACRE LOTS VERY
MUCH OUTSIDE THE REALM OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE REASONABLE IN, IN, IN PALM BAY. BECAUSE OF, OF HOW MUCH THAT LAND ITSELF WOULD COST TO DEVELOP TO BUILD
THE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          AGAIN, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL CONSIDERING THIS BUT THE THE MAIN,
THE MAIN OBJECTIVE HERE IS JUST TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNITY BY BUILDING SOME NICE HOMES AND AND HELPING OUT THE CHURCH TO DEVELOP THEIR,
THEIR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS AS WELL. 
          SO WITH HALF ACRE LOTS, NOT BE FINANCIALLY VIABLE FOR YOU AS WELL. 
          JUST TO BE HONEST, WHICH I AM, I'M AN HONEST GUY. 
          IT'S MARGINALLY VIABLE AS IT IS. VERY MUCH SO. 
          AND I'M REALLY COUNTING ON THE FACT THAT I BUILD VERY QUALITY HOMES. 
          I'M GOING TO ATTRACT THE TYPE OF RESIDENCE TO PALM BAY THAT ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE ABLE
TO AFFORD TO PURCHASE THEM. 
          I'M REALLY YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S IT TO DO HALF ACRE LOTS. 
          YOU NEED AN EVEN HIGHER, YOU KNOW, AN EVEN HIGHER PRICE POINT WHERE YOU'RE GETTING LIKE
LIKE ON THE BARRIER ISLAND TYPE OF PRICE POINT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THIS REALITY IS MOST OF THE DEVELOPERS THAT CAME BEFORE ME THEY TALKED
ABOUT THEY TURNED DOWN A AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S, THERE'S DEVELOPERS THAT WERE GOING TO DO,
LIKE, PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS. 
          I'M JUST DOING STRAIGHT ZONING. I'M GOING TO MATCH THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
I'M GOING TO BUILD THE TYPE OF HOMES OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT. I'M NOT I'M NOT TRYING TO BUILD SMALL 40 FOOT LOTS, 50 FOOT LOTS WITH TINY SHOTGUN SHELL HOMES. 
          THIS IS THIS IS EXACTLY LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S AROUND IT. 
          AND IN FACT, IT'S GOING TO BE BETTER THAN NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A IT'S A PLANNED COMMUNITY,
AN HOA. IT'S GOING TO RETENTION, A WALKING PATH, NICE LANDSCAPING. 
          AND I'M GOING TO PUT A FENCE AROUND IT TO AROUND THE WHOLE THING JUST TO,
TO PROVIDE THAT BUFFER AND BARRIER THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL BE REMOVING THE TREES AND TAKING THAT AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY. ARE THERE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNSELOR? DEPUTY MAYOR OR COUNCILMAN JOHNSON? I'M GOOD. I DON'T WANT THAT TITLE. I, I LOOKED AT HIM AS YOU WERE. 
          I LOOKED AT HIM. I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SO MY MY COMMENTS. 
          I'M. I'M GOOD WITH YOU, SIR. YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU,
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE. ONE THING I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I HAD GAVE STAFF THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING VOTE FIRST. 
          AND THEN SECONDLY, THERE WAS SOMETHING MENTIONED. I APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING IT,
SIR, BECAUSE IT TIES TO THE LIVE LOCAL ACT, AND I WOULD LOVE FOR OUR STAFF, BOTH OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND MR. MORTON, OUR CITY MANAGER, TO SPEAK ON IT AS WELL,
BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY CRUCIAL INFORMATION FOR THIS PUBLIC TO HEAR AS WELL AS THIS COUNCIL. SO THAT'S ALL. YEAH. CARRY ON. THANK YOU SIR. 
          SO FIRST I WANT TO SAY THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE PARCELS. 
          THE ONE THAT WE JUST HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON,
WHICH IS THE SMALLER ONE. 
          I MISSPOKE BEFORE I SAID TEN ACRES IS 2.8 ACRES. 
          THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD BECAUSE RIGHT NOW,
IN FACT, THE ZONING AND THE FUTURE LAND USE ARE INCOMPATIBLE. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. FOR THE LARGER PROPERTIES, THERE'S ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES. 
          THE TEN ACRES, THAT WAS A REZONING, WHICH WAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THAT
REQUEST. 
          SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE REQUESTS WITH REGARD TO LIVE LOCAL. 
          ONE OF THE SPEAKERS MENTIONED THAT THE LAW HAS CHANGED THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION. 
          SO NOW ANY PROPERTIES OWNED BY A CHURCH OR ANYTHING THAT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL
WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD THE HIGHEST DENSITY PERMITTED WITHIN THE CITY ON SUCH PROPERTIES,
AND THAT WOULD BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND THEY CAN DO THIS BASED ON LOCAL LAW WITHOUT EITHER ONE OF THESE
APPLICATIONS. 
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IT WOULD JUST BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS WHEREBY THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED TO BUILD THE
HIGHEST DENSITY ALLOWED IN THE CITY, WHICH IS 40 UNITS TO THE ACRE. AND THEY ALSO WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO THE HIGHEST
ALLOWED HEIGHT WITHIN THE CITY. AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT THIS PROCESS. 
          IN TRUTH, AGAIN, THE LAND, THE LAND USE IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THAT
SMALL PIECE. 
          AND SO I KNOW THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS, YOU KNOW,
REPEATEDLY DISCUSSED BEING EXEMPT FROM THE LIVE LOCAL FROM THE TAX INCENTIVES OFFERED TO THE BUILDERS OF THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES. 
          YOU ALL DID LAST DECEMBER MAKE A DECISION NOT TO OFFER THOSE TAX INCENTIVES FOR THESE TYPE
OF PARCELS, BUT BY LAW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO ALLOW THE HOUSING ON CHURCH OWNED PROPERTIES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. 
          SO I'VE GOT A COUNCILMAN HAMMER. AND THEN MR. MORTON. MR. MORTON, WOULD YOU. YEAH, I WANT TO. 
          MR. MORTON, WOULD YOU WEIGH IN? HEY, ALTHIA IS RIGHT. 
          I THINK THE ONLY CAVEAT THAT I'M AWARE OF PATRICIA MIGHT KNOW MORE IS THAT THE PROPERTY
HAS TO HAVE A CHURCH ON IT, WHICH THIS DOES. SO THAT I DON'T THINK APPLIES IN THIS CASE. 
          SO I THINK YOUR POSITION IS CORRECT. SO IT'S NOT JUST ANY CHURCH OWNED PROPERTY IN THE
CITY. 
          IT HAS TO BE HAVE A CHURCH ON IT, WHICH IS DOES. 
          IT DOES NOW COMPLY AS OF JULY UNDER THE LOCAL ACT THEY COULD BUILD MULTIFAMILY,
THEY COULD BUILD IT TALL. 
          AND SHE GAVE YOU THE DENSITY? I THINK WAS 40 UNITS AN ACRE. SO THAT IS THAT IS PERMISSIBLE
ADMINISTRATIVELY NOW BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA ON THIS PROPERTY, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO IN THE FUTURE. 
          COPY THAT, COUNCILMAN HAMMOND. OH. OH, MADAM ATTORNEY. 
          YES, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CHANGE WAS TO 166 .04151,
AND IT'S SUBSECTION SIX, AND I ONLY WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BECAUSE SUBSECTION SIX, WHICH I WILL READ,
IS DIFFERENT FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS, WHICH IS IN SUBSECTION SEVEN. THE SUBSECTION SIX PROVIDES,
OF COURSE, NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW OR LOCAL ORDINANCE OR REGULATION TO THE CONTRARY, THE GOVERNING BODY OF A MUNICIPALITY MAY APPROVE THE DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING THAT
IS AFFORDABLE AND IT GOES ON ON ANY PARCEL, INCLUDING CONTIGUOUS PARCEL CONNECTED THERETO,
WHICH IS OWNED BY A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION WHICH CONTAINS A HOUSE OF PUBLIC WORSHIP REGARDLESS OF UNDERLYING ZONING, SO LONG AS AT LEAST 10% OF THE UNITS INCLUDED IN THE
PROJECT ARE FOR HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE. 
          THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS IS UNDER SECTION SEVEN,
WHICH SAYS THAT A MUNICIPALITY MUST AUTHORIZE. 
          SO I DO WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINGUISHMENT, BUT CERTAINLY THEY CAN HAVE A LIVE LOCAL
PROJECT WHICH WOULD INCLUDE MULTI-FAMILY AS LONG AS 10%. 
          JUST UNDER THE CURRENT LAW ISN'T AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNING
BODY OF A MUNICIPALITY MAY APPROVE. 
          DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES, AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY CRUCIAL INFORMATION FOR
EVERYBODY TO HAVE IN REGARDS TO THE DECISION WE'RE MAKING TONIGHT. 
          MAYOR. SO THAT'S ALL. SO PART OF THAT TOO IS SOMETHING'S COMING BEFORE US THAT THEY WANT
US TO TO WORK THOSE WAVE THOSE THINGS OFF ON, ON THE PROPERTY SINCE WE'RE TALKING APPLES TO APPLES,
I WANT TO JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE. 
          RIGHT? THEY WANT US TO EXEMPT THEIR PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT
THAT WAS ADMINISTRATIVELY DONE OVER THERE BY THE HOTELS AND WHAT IS THAT JUMP AROUND DEFY BASS PRO, SHOP THAT AREA, DEFY THAT PROJECT WAS LIVED LOCAL. 
          AND NOW THIS THEY THEY'RE COMING BACK TO GET SOME TYPE OF WAIVER,
AM I CORRECT? WELL, THAT'S. YEAH. YEAH. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. 
          SO. RIGHT. SINCE WE'RE TALKING DOWN THAT SAME VEIN DEPUTY MAYOR,
YOU'RE NEXT AS YOU WORK. 
          YEAH, I'M JUST GOING TO. I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION THAT. OKAY. NEW BUSINESS,
ITEM NUMBER ONE, COUNCILMAN HAMMER. YES. 
          IF CITY MANAGER MR. MARTIN COULD CALL ALTHEA BACK UP FOR A SECOND. 
          I HAD A QUESTION. SURE. ALTHEA. FROM WHAT I'M READING IN 2029 AND 2030, THE SCHOOL FOR THAT DISTRICT IS GOING TO BE AT A NEGATIVE THREE. 
          CAPACITY FOR STUDENTS, IS THAT CORRECT? THE HIGH SCHOOL CAN ACCOMMODATE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
STUDENTS, BUT THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS DID HAVE TO IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE STUDENTS
GENERATED FOR THIS NUMBER OF UNITS. 
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THEY DID HAVE TO GO WITHIN THE NEXT OR THE ADJACENT CAPACITY AREA,
WHICH WOULD BE NOT THE SCHOOL ZONED FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE, BUT THE NEXT ELEMENTARY OR MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THEM. 
          OKAY. MY QUESTION ALSO IS PALM BREEZE APARTMENTS IS 264 APARTMENTS,
WHICH IS ALSO ZONED FOR THAT SAME SCHOOL. 
          THEY DID THESE NUMBERS WITHOUT INCLUDING THAT BECAUSE NO ONE'S MOVED IN YET. ARE THOSE
INCLUDED IN THAT OR NOT? THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES THE CALCULATIONS IN TERMS OF THE GENERATION OF THE STUDENTS,
AND IT'S DONE WITH WHAT'S CALLED A PRELIMINARY LETTER. SO WHEN THEY GET TO SITE PLAN,
THEN THEY REEVALUATE IT AGAIN, BASED ON ALL OF THE PRODUCTS AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT SINCE AND PEOPLE HAVE STARTED MOVING IN. 
          SO IT WAS A PRELIMINARY LETTER FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD THAT MADE THAT DETERMINATION. 
          SO THEY BASICALLY DO A COUNT OF WHAT THE KIDS ARE IN THERE CURRENTLY. 
          YES. OKAY. SO WE HAVE 264 PEOPLE OR 264 APARTMENTS OR DWELLINGS THAT ARE MOVING IN THAT
WE'RE NOT EVEN ACCOUNTING FOR IN THIS. THEY'VE THEY'VE BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR WHEN THEY WERE IN THIS PART OF THE PROCESS AND OR
WHEN THEY STARTED THEIR SITE PLAN. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SAY I,
I, I LOVE PRICE FAMILY HOMES. 
          THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE GREAT WORK, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN. 
          I LOVE CENTER POINT. BUT I TRULY BELIEVE OUR CITY IS AT A POINT TO WHERE I THINK WE'RE AT
CAPACITY. 
          WE ARE AT CAPACITY. LET ME. SIR. SIR, LET ME LET ME CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND GET A
MOTION. 
          I THINK WE'RE GETTING AHEAD OF OURSELVES AT THIS POINT. 
          SO THE VERY FIRST THING IS NO ONE ELSE IS WISHING TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. 
          MR. WALKER, YOU ALREADY SPOKE. SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A
MOTION. 
          MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025,
DASH 43. 
          SECONDED. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          OKAY. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, MAYOR, LIKE THE LIVE LOCAL ACT IS THE MAIN THING THAT HAS ME THE
THE GREATEST CONCERN. 
          BECAUSE ANYTHING CAN BE BUILT LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LIMITED AMOUNT OF HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO CONFORM TO THE COMMUNITY,
WHERE IT COULD GO BACK TO NOT JUST WHAT WAS PROPOSED PREVIOUSLY WITH THE APARTMENTS, BUT SOMETHING EVEN MORE. AND EVERY TIME AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IS BROUGHT BEFORE
THIS COUNCIL, IT'S BEEN A PROBLEM. AND HERE IT WOULDN'T BE BROUGHT TO THE COUNCIL,
IT WOULD BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          AND I'VE SEEN PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY WHERE I WISH I WOULD HAVE
HAD A SAY IN IT, AND THAT'S THE PRICE OF, YOU KNOW, PREEMPTIONS FROM THE STATE. 
          THEY THINK EVERY CITY IS THE SAME AND WE'RE DEALT WITH THE SAME STUFF. 
          BUT EACH PROJECT IS DIFFERENT, WHICH IS WHY THEY NEED TO COME HERE. 
          BUT IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT, I'M NOT DOING IT OUT OF FEAR. 
          IT'S MORE OF PRUDENCE AND FORESIGHT. BUT IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT,
THEN IT'S NOT SAYING THAT PASTOR WILL DO IT, BUT HE HAS FULL RANGE TO DO WHATEVER YOU YOU WANT TO DO,
SIR. 
          AND THAT'S IT'S YOUR PROPERTY. WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT PROPERTY RIGHTS ON ONE SIDE,
BUT THEN WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, WE WANT TO INFRINGE ON THEM. SO IT GOES BOTH WAYS. I THINK THIS IS VERY FEASIBLE,
ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING WHAT THEY COULD HAVE DONE. 
          WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT FIRST, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I STAY ON THIS PROJECT. 
          PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED IT. I FEEL COMFORTABLE APPROVING THIS FIRST ONE,
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE NEXT ONE WHEN WE GET THERE. 
          BUT THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. MAYOR, I'VE GOT THE CITY ATTORNEY WEIGHING IN. 
          MADAM ATTORNEY ONLY, JUST TO CLARIFY AGAIN, LIVE LOCAL. 
          THEY COULD DO AN APARTMENT, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE ADMINISTRATIVE. 
          OKAY, IT WON'T, BUT THEY VERY WELL COULD UNDER LIVE LOCAL,
DO AN APARTMENT. 
          OKAY. AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO HERE. 
          CORRECT? YEAH, BUT IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE THEM TO DO ANY LAND USE OR ZONING AND ONLY HAVE TO
DO 10% AS AFFORDABLE. 
          AND THEY COULD DO A LIVE LOCAL PROJECT. OKAY. 
          SO EVERYTHING ELSE. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. THAT'S STILL A CONCERN. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. IT'S A SMALL SCALE,
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IS A GUIDE, BUT WE HAVE THIS PROCESS TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN
AND SUBMIT AND PROVE THEIR CASE, WHILE OTHERS PROVE THE OPPOSING SIDE. AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION,
YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS. 
          THIS DOES MEET THE TRANSPORTATION AND UTILITIES CONCURRENCY. 
          YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CAME UP AND SPOKE ABOUT SENATE BILL 180,
WHICH HAS TO DO WITH MORATORIUMS AND EMERGENCIES DURING HURRICANES HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING RELATED TO THIS PROPERTY. YOU KNOW,
THIS PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY UNDER CONTRACT BY A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPER. 
          RESIDENTS ARE CLAIMING THAT THEY THEY STOPPED THE DEVELOPMENT OF IT,
BUT THAT PREVIOUS DEVELOPER ACTUALLY PULLED THE PROJECT AT THE PNC MEETING, AND IT WAS 
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NEVER VOTED UPON. AND BUT, YOU KNOW, FURTHERMORE,
I JUST I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. 
          IT'S EIGHT HOUSES ON EMERALD. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. 
          SO THAT'LL PASS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I'VE GOT COUNCILMAN HAMMER AND THEN COUNCILMAN
LANGEVIN. 
          YEAH. LIKE I WAS SAYING BEFORE I REALLY LOVE BOTH INVOLVED. 
          BUT WHAT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE COMMUNITY SURROUNDING YOUR CHURCH DOES
NOT LIKE IT. 
          AND I DRIVE DOWN EMERSON EVERY SINGLE DAY TO TAKE MY KID TO SCHOOL. 
          EMERSON IS BACKED UP ALL THE WAY TO JUPITER. IT TAKES ME SEVEN MINUTES TO GET TO MY KID'S
SCHOOL. 
          WHEN AT AT MIDNIGHT. TAKES ME 32 MINUTES TO GET TO MY KID'S SCHOOL WHEN I'M TAKING THEM TO
SCHOOL. 
          WHEN I COME HERE, IT TAKES ME ALMOST SEVEN MINUTES TO GET HERE FROM MY HOUSE TODAY. 
          IT TOOK ME 31 MINUTES. I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT. 
          OTHER THAN IT'S A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S POURING OUT ONTO A RESIDENTIAL ROAD. 
          AND WHILE I WAS RUNNING FOR COUNCIL, I SAID WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT POURS
OUT ONTO A TWO LANE ROAD. 
          I DON'T THINK IT'S VERY INTELLIGENT, AND I THERE'S NOT EVEN THERE'S NOT EVEN A LIGHT AT
COPLEY WHERE THIS COMES OUT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO BRING EVERYBODY OUT ON COPLEY AND JUST HOPE AND PRAY THEY CAN MAKE IT
ACROSS. 
          I LOVE THE IDEA FOR IT. I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT START. 
          I REALLY HOPE WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER IDEA FOR IT. 
          I DON'T LIKE IT POURING OUT INTO ONTO THE MIDDLE OF SOMEBODY'S ROAD WHERE THE KIDS PLAY. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 HOUSES. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S 80 CARS GOING UP AND DOWN A ROAD. 
          THAT MEANS A KID CAN'T HAVE A BASKETBALL HOOP IN HIS IN IN THE ROAD. 
          KIDS CAN'T RIDE THEIR BIKES. IT'S IT'S I'M I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF IT. 
          I SUPPORT THE CHURCH. I SUPPORT PRICE FAMILY. 
          I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT THINGS. I THINK THE CHURCH HAS,
HAS, HAS I MEAN, IF YOU'RE EXPANDING, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M HAPPY YOU HAVE THE THE ATTENDANCE. 
          YOU DO, I REALLY DO. IF IT'S THAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW,
BEING A CHURCH, YOUR COMMUNITY AROUND YOU IS NOT IN SUPPORT. AND I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY,
BUT I CAN'T BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BENJAMIN. YEAH. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. I'M GOING TO BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS TONIGHT. 
          AND THE REASON IS THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE'S REASON. 
          HONESTLY, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN IN SUPPORT OF IT IF THE STATE HADN'T HAVE PASSED
THE LIVE LOCAL ACT. 
          BUT IF WE DENY 40 FAMILY HOMES TONIGHT, AND THEN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS BUILT THAT CAN
HOLD 250 PEOPLE, AND NOW WE HAVE THAT MUCH MORE CONGESTION GOING ON THERE,
AND WE HAD NO SAY SO IN IT, THEN I WOULD FEEL MUCH WORSE THAN JUST ALLOWING THE HOUSES TO BE BUILT. SO I'M GOING TO BE A YES TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO'S GOING TO
BE MAD AT US TONIGHT FOR APPROVING THIS TO DO. 
          DOES ANYONE GO AND YELL AND COMPLAIN TO THEIR STATE OFFICIALS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PASS LIVE
LOCAL. 
          WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF IT. THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER ITEMS THAT WE
DIDN'T PASS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF. WE SPENT A MEETING GETTING YELLED AT ABOUT FINAL PLATS. WE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. 
          WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE, BUT THEY SIT UP IN TALLAHASSEE 7 OR 8 HOURS AWAY,
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING COMPLAINED TO ABOUT THAT. 
          SO YOU KNOW, WE WE SHARE OUR FAIR AMOUNT HERE AND,
AND YOU SHOULD COME COMPLAIN TO US ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS FOR SURE. 
          BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ALSO GO COMPLAIN TO YOUR STATE OFFICIALS BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO
JUST GO UP TO TALLAHASSEE AND GET AWAY FROM ALL THIS AND LET THE CITY COUNCILS GET THE BRUNT OF IT. SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO BE IN FAVOR TONIGHT. 
          WELL. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANDRUM AND I'LL WRAP THIS UP. 
          THE VERY FIRST THING I WANT TO SHARE IS SOMEONE MENTIONED THE TITHE AND AND KIND OF,
LIKE, CAST SOME SHADE ON THE CHURCH. SO I'M GOING TO. 
          THE TITHE IS NOT OF THE CHURCH OF THE TITHE IS A PROMISE FROM THE MOST HIGH GOD. 
          AND HE SAYS, TEST ME IN THIS. SO THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN GOD'S WORD,
AND SO THEY DECLARE THAT THEIR PROMISES OR GOD'S PROMISES ARE TRUE. YES AND AMEN. SO THE TITHE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A LOCAL CHURCH
BUT THE BODY OF CHRIST. 
          AND IT IS A PROMISE. AND SO. SO THAT, MA'AM. AS YOU WERE,
MA'AM. 
          EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME. THIS. EXCUSE ME, MA'AM,
I YOU READ THE CONSTITUTION, MA'AM. 
          I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED, MA'AM, IF YOU CONTINUE BARKING BACK. 
          I WILL HAVE YOU REMOVED. THERE IS DECORUM IN THIS IN THESE CHAMBERS. 
          THERE'S DECORUM IN THESE CHAMBERS. SO THE DECORUM YOU WOULD NOT PRAY IF YOU WERE OPERATING
PROPERLY? 
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THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, MA'AM. YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER,
MA'AM. 
          YOU'RE. YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER, MA'AM. YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER,
MA'AM. 
          NO, I HAVE A CARD, AND I'M SPEAKING. WELL, YOU WILL SPEAK IF YOU KEEP DECORUM,
MA'AM. 
          SO THE TITHE IS A PROMISE. NOW, AS FAR AS PRICE HOMES,
I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO. 
          AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE QUALITY WORKMANSHIP THAT YOU PROVIDE,
YOUR REPUTATION IS IMPECCABLE. 
          AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU MAKE ONE ACRE HOMES. 
          PEOPLE WILL COME. I REALLY BELIEVE THAT I HAVE SEEN YOUR HOMES. 
          I'VE WITNESSED PEOPLE IN IN THEIR HOMES THAT ARE PRICED,
BUILT HOMES. 
          AND YOU DO HAVE QUALITY HOMES. SO I BELIEVE YOU KEEPING THAT ONE ACRE LOT,
YOU WOULD BUILD A HOME AND YOU WOULD GET THE PRICE YOU NEED. THEN I'LL WRAP IT UP WITH THE CENTER POINT CHURCH. 
          I LOVE EVERYTHING YOU DO. I THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. 
          IT IS ABOUT GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE I BELIEVE
IN ONE ACRE LOTS AND I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR ONE ACRE LOTS SINCE I GOT ON THIS DAIS,
AND I'M NOT BACKING DOWN JUST BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THAT MAY COME UP ON THE HORIZON. I AM A PROPONENT OF THOSE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          I REMEMBER WE HAD SO MUCH MORE OF THEM, SO I WILL NOT BE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. 
          I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AND SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          I'M GOING TO CALL THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. NAY, NAY. I WANT A ROLL CALL,
PLEASE. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. AYE. A COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          A COUNCILMAN HAMMER. NO. COUNCILMAN. A MAYOR. 
          MEDINA. NAY. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN. AND AGAIN I ASK FOR DECORUM IF COUNCIL
SPEAKING. 
          WE'RE GIVING YOU THE RESPECT YOU SPEAK WHEN YOU'RE CALLED UPON. 
          DO NOT INTERRUPT COUNSEL WHEN THEY SPEAK. MADAM SMITH,
THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS QUASI JUDICIAL IN NATURE. 
          PUBLIC HEARINGS. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TEN. ANY PERSON WHO WISHES TO TESTIFY ON SUCH A MATTER
MUST SIGN A SPEAKER CARD, WHICH CONTAINS A SWORN OATH. TO TELL THE TRUTH,
ANY INDIVIDUAL ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL MUST STATE HIS OR HER NAME AND CONFIRM THAT A SPEAKER CARD HAS BEEN SIGNED. ATTORNEYS WHO ARE APPEARING ON BEHALF OF A PARTY NOT
PROVIDING TESTIMONIAL EVIDENCE ARE NOT CONSIDERED WITNESSES AND NEED NOT BE SWORN. COUNSEL SHOULD DISCLOSE ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATION BY DISCLOSING THE SUBJECT MATTER
OF THE COMMUNICATION AND THE IDENTITY OF THE PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY WITH WHOM THE COMMUNICATION TOOK PLACE. 
          THE ORDER OF THIS PROCEEDING WILL BE AS FOLLOWS. 
          FIRST, STAFF WILL MAKE HIS PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT,
THEN ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS. 
          THE HEARING WILL THEN BE CLOSED AND NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. 
          THE COUNCIL WILL THEN DELIBERATE IN PUBLIC. ANY SPEAKER MAY BE SUBJECT TO
CROSS-EXAMINATION BY THE COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTY. 
          ANY OTHER PERSON MAY SPEAK FOR A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES. 
          THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE ALLOWED CONCLUDING REMARKS. 
          THE QUASI JUDICIAL BODY MAY MODIFY THE TIME LIMITS ON ITS OWN MOTION,
OR UPON REQUEST OF A PARTY, TO THE PROCEEDING. THE HEARING WILL THEN CLOSE. 
          NO ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY OR ARGUMENT WILL BE ALLOWED. 
          AT THE END OF DELIBERATION, A COUNCIL MEMBER WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THE APPLICATION TO
BRING THE MATTER TO A VOTE. 
          EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER IS THEN FREE TO VOTE IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION. 
          ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 44, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE ZONING ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY BY CHANGING THE ZONING OF PROPERTY FROM RR RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO RS2 SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. 
          WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE VICINITY NORTH OF EMERALD ROAD,
SOUTH OF VALLEY DRIVE AND WEST OF CAVAN AVENUE AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR A CHANGE OF THE ZONING MAP. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
WE DO HAVE ACTING DIRECTOR ALETHIA JEFFERSON HERE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU. SO THE SUBJECT LOT IS JUST EAST OF THE CASE WE JUST SAW. 
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IT CONSISTS OF TEN ACRES. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THE ZONING ON THE TEN
ACRES FROM RURAL RESIDENTIAL TO R S2. BASED ON THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE, STAFF AGREES THAT THE APPLICANT MEETS THE REVIEW CRITERIA SET FORTH AND THAT THIS SITE IS
UNIQUELY SUITED FOR DEVELOPMENT AS AN R S2 DEVELOPMENT. THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT,
AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS, AGREED WITH THE FINDINGS OF STAFF IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, AND THE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE PROPOSED WILL CONNECT TO
THE CITY'S CENTRALIZED WATER AND SEWER. 
          IT WAS FOUND THAT THE TRAFFIC GOING OUT TO JUPITER AND MALABAR WOULD NOT GREATLY OR
ADVERSELY AFFECT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES OR DEGRADE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE ROAD BEYOND THAT ACCEPTED BY THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES NOT CONSTITUTE SPOT ZONING AND IS NOT AN ISOLATED OR ARBITRARY
ZONING CHANGE, BUT RATHER A LOGICAL EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN THE AREA. 
          THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THE
APPLICANT'S REQUEST BE DENIED, AND THE VOTE WAS 4 TO 1. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          I THINK I HAVE THREE QUESTIONS IF I REMEMBER ALL OF THEM. 
          FIRST QUESTION, DID THEY SPECIFY ON THE REASON FOR DENIAL OR THERE THERE WERE SOME ITEMS
THAT WERE CITED AS PART OF THE MOTION, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE MOTION IN FRONT OF ME. 
          BUT THEY CITED SPECIFIC CRITERIA FROM THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS FOUND IN THE CODE THAT THEY
DISAGREED WITH STAFF, WHICH THEY'RE ABLE TO DO. THAT THERE WERE CERTAIN ELEMENTS THAT DID NOT MEET THE FACTORS
OF ANALYSIS. 
          THEY I BELIEVE, MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC. AND THERE WAS SOME MENTION OF THE SCHOOL ISSUE FOR
THE ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          OKAY. AND IF YOU WE HAVE SEVERAL SPEAKERS. SO IF YOU GET THAT INFORMATION BY THE TIME WE
WRAP UP BY THE TIME. 
          YEAH. BUT TWO MORE QUESTIONS, I APOLOGIZE. AND THIS MIGHT BE FOR MR. MORTON. HOW MANY RURAL RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PALM BAY? HOW MANY? WELL, I, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY SPECIFICALLY. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU AN ACREAGE. WHEN I COME BACK TO THE PODIUM,
THEN THAT'S WE DO HAVE THAT IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND THAT LEADS TO MY THIRD QUESTION. WITH THE UPDATING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE KNOW
THAT STARTED BACK IN 2019. 
          IT'S BEEN A FIVE YEAR, SIX YEAR PROCESS. THIS WASN'T THIS WASN'T RECOMMENDED TO BE REZONED
TO WHAT IS BEING REZONED NOW DO YOU? OKAY. SO YOU SEE WHAT I'M GETTING AS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          THE ZONING MAP IS NOT CONSIDERED THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. SORRY. RIGHT. IS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND SO YOU DO HAVE IN SOME COMMUNITIES WHERE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE FUTURE LAND USE
MAP IS NOT NECESSARILY COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING. AND THERE APPEARS TO NOT HAVE BEEN AN EXERCISE WHERE THE MAP WAS
AUDITED TO SEE IF THERE WAS A WAY TO GET RID OF SOME OF THESE INCONSISTENCIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. 
          OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. JUST TO CLARIFY A QUESTION,
COUNCILMAN JOHNSON ASKED. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS VERBATIM. I THINK THIS IS TRANSCRIBED TO THE INTENT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S CERTIFIED, BUT IT SAYS MOTION BY MR. FILIBERTO, SECONDED BY MR. MCNALLY, TO SUBMIT CASE Z2500003 TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DENIAL
MOTION BASED ON RURAL RESIDENTIAL BEING A RARITY IN PALM BAY, GREEN SPACE PRESERVATION SHOULD BE PARAMOUNT AND
RURAL RESIDENTIAL WAS A MORE PROPER MATCH IN DENSITY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MARTIN. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COUNCIL? YES, SIR. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR BILL BATTEN. 
          BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
          I WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING AND I AGREE 100%. 
          THE AMOUNT OF RURAL, THE PERCENTAGE OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND THAT WE HAVE LEFT IN THE
CITY OF PALM BAY IS DWINDLING EVERY DAY. 
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CASE IN POINT, I BOUGHT ON MY STREET BECAUSE IT WAS ALL RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
          BOUGHT A FARM. NOW THERE'S ONLY TWO PIECES OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL LEFT IN THAT ENTIRE
STREET. 
          MINE AND MY NEIGHBOR. THAT'S IT. SO I HATE SEEING RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND GO. 
          AND EVERYBODY AROUND ME HAS GOT BEAUTIFUL HOMES BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS ACREAGE. 
          THE SMALLEST ONE IS TWO ACRES. THE NEXT ONE IS TWO AND A HALF. 
          THEN IT GOES FIVE, SIX AND 12. THAT'S WHAT THE ACREAGE. 
          BUT EVERYBODY HAS BEAUTIFUL HOMES. AND ACREAGE IS WHAT MAKES THOSE HOMES SO NICE. 
          SO IF YOU KEEP THIS AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND,
YOU CAN STILL BUILD BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN THIS AREA AND THEY WILL SELL. 
          PEOPLE WANT THEM. THERE'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT DOES NOT WANT TO LIVE IN A PUD,
OR RIGHT NEXT ON A QUARTER ACRE LOT. 
          SOME PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE. THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE TO BUY 2 OR 3 QUARTER
ACRE LOTS SO THEY CAN HAVE SOMETHING THEY WANT. 
          TO MAKE IT EVEN WORSE. HOW MANY TIMES? EVEN TONIGHT DID YOU HAVE TO SAY,
WELL, I WANT TO HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE SO I CAN PUT A SWIMMING POOL IN, BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT LOTS THAT WERE MADE TOO SMALL FOR THE LIFESTYLE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO
HAVE IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          SO WHEN YOU START GETTING RID OF BIGGER LOTS,
YOU START HINDERING THE PEOPLE'S LIFESTYLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE LAND TO MAKE THE LIFE ENJOYABLE THE WAY THEY WANT. SO I CONCUR WITH PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          ENJOY THE GOLDEN, THE GREEN GEMS THAT YOU HAVE OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL LAND AND MAKE LARGER
LOTS AND BEAUTIFUL HOME SITES. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER PAT PAT. ALPER FOR TEN GEORGE'S AVENUE NORTHEAST PALM BAY. 
          I HAVE TWO POINTS AND I'M NOT SURE IF HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO MATTER,
BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO MATTER A LOT. 
          THE WATER MODEL AND THEN THE WASTEWATER FLOW. 
          THE RESIDENTIAL FIRE FLOW, WHICH IS WHAT IT'S CALLED REQUIRED ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS,
13 1360FT OF EIGHT INCH WATER MAIN ALONG THE DEVELOPMENT PLANNED ON THE SITE ROADWAY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, TWO SEGMENTS OF EXISTING OFF SITE WATER MAINS WERE UPSIZED IN THE MODEL FROM
6IN TO 8IN. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, IS THE CITY GOING TO CHANGE THE PIPES ON EMERALD OR MIRAGE? THEN SPECIFICALLY 550FT OF WATER MAIN ALONG MIRAGE AND 750FT ALONG EMERALD TO BE UPSIZED
FOR RESIDENTIAL FLOW. WHO'S PAYING FOR THE CHANGE IN PIPES? WASTEWATER MODEL ON SITE. GRAVITY WASTEWATER PIPING WAS CONSIDERED FOR CONNECTION TO THE
EXISTING EIGHT INCH GRAVITY WASTEWATER MAIN ALONG EMERALD ROAD. HOWEVER, THERE APPEARS TO BE INSUFFICIENT DEPTH ALONG EXISTING EMERALD ROAD
WASTEWATER GRAVITY PIPING TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONNECTION AND STILL MAINTAIN REQUIRED GRAVITY PIPE COVER. 
          SO THEREFORE THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A LIFT STATION PUT IN. 
          WHO'S GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE LIFT STATION? THE DEVELOPMENT OR CITY? THE MANHOLE LINING MAY BE NEEDED TO REDUCE LONG TERM CORROSION
DUE TO THE LIFT STATION DISCHARGE. 
          SO THIS IS ON EMERALD. THE SUMMARY OF BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER. 
          THIS IS LIKE A 20 YEAR. DOWN THE ROAD. THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS ASSUMES THAT THE CITY'S TREATMENT FACILITY CAPACITY FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER WILL BE AVAILABLE,
INCLUDING THE SOUTH REGIONAL WATER RECLAMATION FACILITY. 
          THIS IS 20 YEAR PLANNING. SO IS IT GOING TO BE AVAILABLE WHEN THIS DEVELOPMENT IS
FINISHED? SO UPSIZING OF OFFSITE WATER MAIN FROM 6 TO 8IN IS NEEDED TO MEET RESIDENTIAL FLOW
REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO AGAIN, WHO'S GOING TO DO THAT? THE BUILDER OR THE CITY? NEXT SPEAKER. RUTH COPELAND. 
          GOOD EVENING AGAIN. SO DITTO TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER. 
          JUST SAYING COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. NOW WE HAVE THIS NEW TERM CALLED ENFIELD BUILDING THAT
OUR BUILDERS AROUND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY 
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WANT TO USE TO JUST PAVE OVER PARADISE. LET'S SEE. 
          THAT WAS A SONG. JUST SAYING. AND SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE,
JUST FOR THE LADY IN THE BACK IS A FALSEHOOD. IT DOES NOT EXIST IN ANY LAW. I'M A CONSTITUTION COACH,
SO I'M PRETTY MUCH TEACH THAT EVERY DAY, AND I CAN TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT THAT LATER ON. 
          NO REZONING WAS PART OF THIS NEW COUNCIL'S OBJECTIVE FOR THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'VE DONE THE ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE OF DOING THAT. 
          JUST SAYING. SO AGAIN, WHAT PAT SAID ABOUT THE COMP PLAN SHOULD HAVE JUST LEFT IT ALONE. 
          NOW, WHERE IS THE DISCLOSURE FOR THIS FUTURE RESIDENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PART OF THIS
PROJECT? I DON'T SEE ANY DISCLOSURES FROM THE BUILDER OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT TELLS WHAT THAT HOA
RESIDENT IS GOING TO PAY FOR A VERY SMALL 26 HOME HOA. SOMEBODY CLAIMS THAT THAT IT IS MANDATED BY LAW,
THAT IT HAS TO BE AN HOA. 
          I DON'T SEE THAT CODE IN ANY OF THE PACKET. I DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT ANYWHERE. 
          I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT THAT LAW EXISTS. SO WHAT PORTION OF ALL THESE EXPENSES ARE THESE
FUTURE HOMEOWNERS SUPPOSED TO PAY THEN? ONE QUESTION ON PROTOCOL. MAYBE MAYOR MADAM ATTORNEY CAN TALK TO THIS. 
          SO IF THERE IS A PERSON ON THE COUNCIL WHO GOES TO THIS CHURCH,
SHOULD THEY REFRAIN FROM VOTING? JUST CHECKING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BRIAN. BRIAN HUMPHRIES,
NEXT SPEAKER. 
          COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. YES. MAYOR. ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS MENTIONED. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY SPEAK ON THAT. 
          BECAUSE YOU YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ABSTAIN TECHNICALLY WITH FAMILY CHRISTMAS EXTRAVAGANZA
BECAUSE YOU WEREN'T GETTING ANY MONETARY BENEFIT FROM IT. BUT OUT OF OUT, OUT OF YOUR CONVICTION. 
          THAT'S WHY YOU ABSTAINED. BUT I DISAGREE WITH WHAT WAS JUST SAID. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CLARIFY AS WELL. 
          BECAUSE WHETHER YOU'RE A MEMBER OF A CHURCH OR NOT,
YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT RECEIVING TITHES, YOU'RE NOT RECEIVING ANYTHING. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE LEGAL STANDPOINT FROM THE CITY
ATTORNEY SO WE CAN CLARIFY FOR THE AUDIENCE. 
          MADAM ATTORNEY. YES, MAYOR. I DID TALK WITH DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
REVIEW THE VOTING CONFLICTS LAW. 
          AND AS I TYPICALLY DO, CONSULTED THE COMMISSION ON ETHICS. 
          THERE IS NOT A VOTING CONFLICT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE IS RECEIVES NO PERSONAL FINANCIAL
BENEFIT OR LOSS FROM THIS REZONING. HE ALTHOUGH HE IS ON THE HE ATTENDS THE CHURCH. 
          HE'S ON THE CONSTRUCTION BOARD OF THE CHURCH. 
          BUT THAT DOES THAT RELATIONSHIP DOES NOT MAKE THE CHURCH A PRINCIPAL OF HIS BECAUSE HE IS
COMPLETELY VOLUNTARY. 
          HE'S GETTING, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THIS GOES,
IS APPROVED OR DENIED. 
          IT DOES NOT ENDURE IN ANY WAY. HE DOESN'T FINANCIALLY BENEFIT OR FINANCIALLY LOSE. 
          SO IT WAS IT'S MY OPINION AND IT WAS THE OPINION OF THE ATTORNEY ON THE COMMISSION ON
ETHICS THAT THERE IS NO VOTING CONFLICT AND THAT HE WAS ABLE TO ACTUALLY VOTE IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU,
MADAM ATTORNEY. 
          AND AND JUST TO ELABORATE ON THAT BRIEFLY YOU KNOW,
IS WE KNOW WHEN YOU GO TO THE HOUSE CHURCH MAYOR. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING I WANT TO APPLAUD BECAUSE PASTOR KEN DELGADO SUPPORTED THIS
PROJECT, BUT YOU DIDN'T SUPPORT THE PROJECT. AND THAT'S BEING A FREE THINKER AND THINKING ON BEHALF
OF THE CITY AND NOT JUST BEHALF OF. 
          OKAY, MY PASTOR DID IT. I'M GOING TO DO IT. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AS WELL. 
          WE'RE MEANT TO BE FREE THINKERS. EVERY SINGLE PERSON HERE IS MEANT TO BE A FREE THINKER. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE HAS HIS CHOICE. 
          YOU HAVE YOURS AND ALL OF US. AND WE'RE LISTENING TO THE CONSTITUENTS. 
          SO I JUST WANT US ALL TO BE CAUTIOUS. AND I KNOW IT'S GOING TO GET A LITTLE MORE IN DEPTH
LATER ON IN THE CONVERSATION. 
          BUT ACCUSATORY COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A PLACE HERE AND THEY CAUSE
MORE DIVISION THAN, YOU KNOW, UNIFICATION. SO THAT'S ALL. MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. VIRGINIA. SIERRA. GOOD EVENING AGAIN. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THINK BILL MENTIONED. 
          IF. GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. SORRY. THE ONE ACRE LOTS. I THINK ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN PALM BAY WOULD LOVE TO SIT ON A ONE ACRE LOT. 
          BUT THE COST IS NOT THERE. SO WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I DO MORTGAGES FOR A LIVING. 
          WE COULD NEVER GET AN APPRAISAL IN PALM BAY ON A ONE ACRE LOT SITTING IN THE AREA THAT
THIS SITS IN. 
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MEANING THOSE HOMES WOULD HAVE TO BE 6 TO $700,000 SITTING RIGHT THERE,
AND THEY WOULD NEVER GET APPRAISED. 
          SO THE LENDING ON THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN. SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE CASH BUYERS FOR EVERY
SINGLE ONE OF THOSE LOTS COMING IN, BECAUSE THEY JUST WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET FINANCING ON THEM. 
          SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PARTS OF THAT AS FAR AS OUR CHURCH BUILDING AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE
DOING, I PROMISE WE'RE NOT PUTTING IN A MOVIE THEATER AND ALSO,
I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS THAT WE SOLD THAT FRONT PORTION, THIS THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH SOMEBODY THAT DOES LIVE IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. WE DID NOT SELL THAT FRONT PORTION THAT SITS ON MALABAR ROAD. WE WOULD NOT HAVE SOLD THAT. 
          WE ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE KEPT THAT FOR OURSELVES. IF THAT WAS OUR LAND,
THAT WAS NOT OUR LAND. WE DID NOT SELL TO THAT DEVELOPER IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT'S IN THERE. BUT I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IS IF WE PUT SOMETHING ELSE
LARGE IN, IF WE PUT SOMETHING ELSE LARGE IN, IT WOULD BRING IN BIG STADIUM LIGHTING,
THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THAT WOULD REALLY AFFECT THE NEIGHBORS. SO I WANT PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          SO IF WE DID SELL TO I THINK SOMEBODY BROUGHT US UP A PICKLEBALL COURT. 
          IF WE DID SELL TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 50 TO 60 TO 70 CARS DUMPING IN
THERE AT NIGHT SO THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE CAN GO IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THESE BIG LIGHTS LIKE YOU DO AT THE PARK OVER DOWN OFF EMERSON. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID THINK ABOUT AGAIN WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT
SELLING TO PRICE FAMILY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL DUE RESPECT,
I'VE WITNESSED ONE ACRE LOTS IN PALM BAY. 
          THERE ARE FAR FEW. AND IN BETWEEN? YES, AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU WOULD GET THOSE $600,000. 
          I'VE SEEN ALSO HOMES BUILT ON FOUR QUARTER ACRE STRIPS FOR THAT VERY SAME PURPOSE. 
          BUT YES, MA'AM, I STILL BELIEVE IN THOSE PRINCIPLES. 
          I'VE BEEN HERE 38 YEARS AND THERE WERE MORE COMMONPLACE THAN TODAY. 
          YES, DEFINITELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BRIAN HUMPHRIES. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BRIAN HUMPHRIES. 
          I LIVE AT NINE, SIX SEVEN EMERALD ROAD. YOU KNOW,
LIKE I SAID, WHEN I BUILT MY HOME HERE, I NEVER EXPECTED TO SEE. GROWTH AS A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          BUT I ACCEPT THE CHURCH. I KNEW A CHURCH WAS THERE,
AND I WAS HAPPY WITH THE CHURCH BEING THERE, BECAUSE I'M THE LAST LOT ON THAT PLOTTED SUBDIVISION,
YOU KNOW. 
          I WAS HAPPY TO MOVE THERE, AND I WAS LIKE, I COULD SEE THE CHURCH EXPANDING AND GROWING. 
          I BELIEVE IN CHRIST AND I BELIEVE IN THE FAITH,
AND I BELIEVE THE CHURCH SHOULD GROW, BUT I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO GROW. 
          AND IN EFFECT, GIVING UP LAND TO PUT UP SUBDIVISIONS THAT BORDER MY PROPERTY. 
          LIKE SOME OF THE PLANS HERE. THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ROADS. 
          THERE HASN'T BEEN A CLEAR CUT. THE ROAD GOING TO GO PARALLEL TO EMERALD,
OR IS IT GOING TO GO RIGHT BESIDE MY PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHERE NOW I'VE GOT 4 OR 3 ROADS COMING IN AND OUT FROM MY PROPERTY RIGHT OFF THE EDGE OF
MY PROPERTY. 
          I'VE GOT WILDLIFE. WE GOT GOPHER TURTLES. I HAVE AN ACTIVE GOPHER TURTLE. 
          BURROW RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF MY PROPERTY. I FEEDS IN MY GRASS ON A DAILY BASIS. 
          I MEAN, WHERE IS ALL THAT WILDLIFE GOING TO GO? WELL, LIKE THEY SAID, THEY THE STORM, THE SEWER,
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO UPGRADE THE SEWER SYSTEM, PUT IN A FORCE MAIN AND WITH A WITH A PRIVATE LIFT STATION,
ALL THAT. 
          WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THAT PRIVATE LIFT STATION? IT'S GOING TO BE PUT BACK ONTO THE CITY. WE HAVE A LIFT STATION AT THE END OF OUR STREET
RIGHT ON COPLEY AND MIRAGE. 
          I SEE CITY WORKERS THERE ALL THE TIME FLUSHING THAT THING OUT BECAUSE IT'S BACKED UP. 
          NOW WE'RE GOING TO ADD MORE SEWAGE TO THAT, TO THAT SYSTEM. 
          WHERE'S ALL THE STORMWATER GOING TO GO? OUR ROADS FLOOD AS IT IS. 
          WE DON'T HAVE CATCH BASINS IN OUR YARDS AND ON OUR STREETS. 
          THE CITY WASN'T DESIGNED TO HAVE CATCH BASINS. 
          IT WASN'T DEVELOPED IN THAT WAY. WHEREAS ALL THAT WATER GOING,
IT'S SITTING IN OUR YARDS RIGHT NOW, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RAIN, AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO MOW YOUR YARD BECAUSE ALL THAT
WATER CAN'T GO NOWHERE. 
          WHERE'S ALL THAT WATER GOING TO GO? ANOTHER CONCERN IS THAT THAT NATURAL GREEN SPACE WE
DON'T HAVE THAT THAT THAT'S A BUFFER. 
          I JUST I JUST TAKE THE COUNCILS OR THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD'S DECISION TO DISAGREE
AND NOT NOT APPROVE THIS. 
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU. NEXT, SPEAKER, STEVE PETTY. 
          AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          DON'T HAVE A LOT MORE TO ADD WHAT I SAID BEFORE,
BUT THERE ARE TWO THINGS I GUESS I'LL JUST RESPOND TO. 
          WHEN I WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT IS WHAT AN
APPROPRIATE TRANSITION ZONES ARE. 
          AND WHEN YOU GO FROM A HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL,
LIKE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THIS, IT WAS REFERENCED AT THE APPROPRIATE TRANSITION WOULD BE A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BEFORE
YOU GOT TO A RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE, THIS THIS NO LONGER FITS APPROPRIATELY,
WHICH IS PROBABLY WHY VIRGINIA WAS SAYING YOU'D HAVE A HARD TIME GETTING SOMEONE WANTING TO PAY THAT PRICE FOR A ONE ACRE LOT WHEN IT'S GOING TO NEIGHBOR A
HIGH DENSITY APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          THEY WOULD WANT TO PURCHASE THAT HOME WHERE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO IT,
WHICH IS WHY THE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FEELS MORE APPROPRIATE IN THIS SCENARIO. 
          AND A CLARIFICATION, I JUST KIND OF WANT TO RESPOND ON THE CHURCH'S BEHALF ON THIS. 
          EVERYTHING AT OUR CHURCH IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WITH NO EXPECTATION OF A TITHE. 
          WE NEVER REQUIRE SOMEONE TO GIVE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP AND A
REFLECTION ON AN INDIVIDUAL'S FAITH. 
          BECAUSE WE ARE A CHURCH, WE WILL TEACH THAT AS PART OF THE TEACHINGS OF THE BIBLE. 
          BUT IT IS NEVER AN EXPECTATION OR A REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEONE HAS TO GIVE A THING TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAMING AND THE ACTIVITIES AND THE COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE THAT IS A PART OF THE MINISTRY OF CENTERPOINT CHURCH. 
          THANKS. NEXT SPEAKER, KRISTIN LANSANAH. 
          GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. KRISTIN LANSANAH NORTHWEST PALM BAY. 
          THIS PROPERTY IS ONE OF THE ONLY REMAINING RESIDENTIAL RURAL RESIDENTIAL LANDS IN OUR
CITY. 
          AT THE LAST MEETING, US CHICKEN OWNERS WERE TOLD THAT IF WE WANTED TO HAVE CHICKENS,
WE SHOULD MOVE TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL LANDS, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME YOU GUYS ARE CONSIDERING REZONING ALL THE RESIDENTIAL LANDS RURAL
RESIDENTIAL TO ACCOMMODATE MORE HOMES AND APARTMENTS. 
          THE P AND Z BOARD, AS WE SAID, HAS ALREADY VOTED 4 TO 1 TO DENY THIS REQUEST AND I HOPE
YOU WILL TOO. 
          TO WRAP THIS UP, MY REQUEST TONIGHT IS SIMPLE KEEP THIS LAND AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND
PROTECT OUR GREEN SPACES FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR NATIVE WILDLIFE. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. MISS SHAWNEE LINETTE. 
          HELLO. THANKS AGAIN FOR HEARING ME OUT. SINCE IT WAS SUCH A FACTOR FOR THE PROPERTY THAT
IS LINKED TO THIS ONE, SO I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE RELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS
AGAIN THE LIVE LOCAL SITUATION. 
          I WILL FIRST SAY THAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE US MAKE SUCH PERMANENT DECISIONS FOR THINGS THAT
ARE THREATS OF IFS AND MAYBES THAT THEY MAY DO. 
          YOU KNOW, I, I FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS WHY THE CHURCH WOULDN'T
WANT TO DO THIS, WHICH IS WHY THEY SAID IT'S THEIR LAST DITCH EFFORT. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT PERSONALLY, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
THE LOW INCOME HOUSING THERE. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THEY AREN'T GOING TO STAND TO MAKE YOU KNOW,
WHAT THEY WOULD MAKE FROM IT. 
          I'D BE INTERESTED. I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A LAWYER. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SELL THAT LAND,
WHICH IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO TO GET THE MONEY FROM IT, THEN THE DEVELOPER THAT THEY SELL IT TO CAN'T NECESSARILY I DON'T NECESSARILY DO IT WITH
THAT. 
          SO WOULD THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE LAND TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT? AND IF SO, WOULDN'T THAT DE-INCENTIVIZE SOME OF THE REASONS TO DO IT TO BEGIN WITH? SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THAT. BUT I WOULD SAY,
YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT DECISION YOU MAKE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO GO FORWARD WITH IT. SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO JUST TO CAUSE
THEM TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, REEVALUATE, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE BETTER BOTH FOR THEM AND
EVERYBODY INVOLVED? MAKE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, A HAPPY COMPROMISE? YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT SAYING NAY GIVES US THE CHANCE TO DO. 
          THAT'S ALL. IT JUST BUYS US SOME TIME TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION. 
          YES IS A YES THAT CANNOT GO BACK. IT CANNOT BE CHANGED. 
          YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY, I THINK THAT SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE COMMUNITY IS SOME OF
THE LACK OF CLARITY IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PLANS REALLY ARE WITH THIS LAND. 
          AS WE SAID AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE WENT TO AND THE ZONING BOARD MEETING,
YOU KNOW, LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND POINTS WERE BROUGHT UP ABOUT ROADS COMING IN AND OUT AND WHAT WOULD
MAKE SENSE. 
          AND IT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING THAT DEVELOPERS,
THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IF IT GETS APPROVED, WE'LL GIVE YOU THOSE ANSWERS. 
          IT'S LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THOSE ANSWERS,
YOU GUYS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND UNDERSTAND THAT SO YOU CAN MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION ON THE STATE OF THINGS. SO I WOULD JUST REALLY,
YOU KNOW, HOPE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, 
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THAT MAYBE YOU GUYS GIVE A CHANCE FOR THEM TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE. 
          WHEREAS IF YOU, YOU KNOW, SAY YAY TONIGHT, YOU KNOW,
IT'S KIND OF SAID AND DONE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE MADE A LOT OF GOOD POINTS TO THE ZONING BOARD. THEY REALLY DID MAKE THAT
RECOMMENDATION BASED ON SOMETHING MEANINGFUL, I PROMISE YOU. AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT YOU GUYS WILL,
YOU KNOW, LOOK A LITTLE CLOSER AND BY, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER IT MORE DEEPLY BEFORE MAKING A PERMANENT DECISION. 
          SO THANKS. NEXT SPEAKER. BRIER WINNETTE. 
          THANK YOU. DESPITE DISAGREEMENT IN RELIGIOUS MATTERS,
I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR. 
          I THAT ONE ACRE LOTS WOULD ACCOMPLISH WHAT THE COMMUNITY DESIRES. 
          THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMPROMISE TO ME. I GREW UP IN THE WORLD OF THE 2008 HOUSING BUBBLE
POPPING, AND I CAN'T HELP BUT FEEL THAT WE ARE IN A BUBBLE NOW. 
          I'M WORRIED ABOUT THIS LAND BEING CLEARED AND THE MARKET CONTINUING TO MOVE IN THE CURRENT
DOWNWARD DIRECTION, AND THE DEVELOPMENT BEING SLOWED TO A CRAWL OR STOPPING COMPLETELY. 
          AND WE'RE LEFT WITH JUST A FIELD WHERE THERE WAS SOME,
YOU KNOW, SEMBLANCE OF NATURE. 
          I'VE WORKED MY FINGERS TO THE BONE FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS TO BUY A HOME AND START A
FAMILY. 
          MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN LAST YEAR, AND I BUILT A VERY NICE NURSERY IN A BACKYARD THAT LOOKS
OUT AT THE TREES IN THE NATURAL AREA BEHIND MY HOME. 
          IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME FOR HER TO GROW UP LOOKING AT A PLASTIC FENCE AND YET ANOTHER
HOA. 
          YOU KNOW, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE SPECIFICALLY FEELING,
LOOKING AT THIS PLACE AND GOING FINALLY SOMEWHERE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GREEN WHERE WE'RE NOT JUST DROWNING IN SUBURBIA AND URBANISM. IT'S,
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD REALLY CHANGE HOW WE FEEL ABOUT PALM BAY AND WOULD DEFINITELY INFLUENCE ALL OF OUR CHOICES FOR YEARS TO COME. ON EVERYTHING WITH OUR HOME. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR HEARING ME. I KNOW I HOPE SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. TOM WALKER. 
          THAT WOULD BE PASTOR TOM WALKER FOR YOU. MY MAMA CALLED ME TOM,
SO THAT'S GOOD BY ME. 
          I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN. I DON'T THINK ANY LIES HAVE BEEN TOLD,
BUT A LOT OF MISINFORMATION HAS BEEN GIVEN. 
          WHERE WE'RE NOT BUILDING A MEGA CHURCH. IT'S 500 SEAT SANCTUARY AND READY TO RE RE RE
DESIGN OF THE PRESENT BUILDING. AND WE BOUGHT THIS LAND WAS PURCHASED BY THE CHURCH YEARS AGO TO DEVELOP. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORS WHO WE LOVE AND WE'VE WORKED WITH AND THEY'VE WORKED WITH
US. 
          THEY'VE BEEN GREAT NEIGHBORS. BUT IF YOU WANT YOU WANT TREES BEHIND YOU,
THEN YOU NEED TO BUY THE LAND BECAUSE IT WAS BUILT TO DEVELOP. AND THAT THAT WAS NOW IT MIGHT NOT BE DEVELOPED THE WAY THAT IT ORIGINALLY WAS
INTENDED, BUT IT WAS STILL BOUGHT TO BE DEVELOPED AS THE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          I THINK I WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO VIRGINIA SIERRA AND AND HER KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT. 
          WE ARE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT HOW MUCH THE BUILDING,
HOW MUCH PRICE HOMES IS GOING TO CHARGE FOR THE HOMES, AND HOW MUCH DEBT THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE AND HOW MUCH EVERYBODY'S GETTING INTO EVERYBODY
ELSE'S BUSINESS A LOT. 
          HOW MUCH THE CHURCH IS GOING TO GO INTO DEBT. 
          ALL I KNOW IS THIS. THAT WE BELIEVE THAT THIS,
THAT OUR MANDATE IS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS CITY AMONG OUR NEIGHBORS, NOT JUST NEAR, BUT FAR AS WELL. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, WE NEED TO EXPAND. WE HAVE TO EXPAND. 
          OTHERWISE, WE WILL NOT FULFILL OUR MANDATE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS CITY. 
          LOVE THE CITY. LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS,
AND I HAVE ONE MISSION IN THE YEARS THAT I HAVE LEFT, AND THAT IS TO LEAVE A PROSPEROUS. I DON'T MEAN FINANCIALLY,
BUT A PROSPEROUS CHURCH THAT IS MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY BY INTRODUCING PEOPLE TO CHRIST,
HELPING FAMILIES GET STRONGER, HELPING, HELPING TO RAISE THEIR CHILDREN A SAFE PLACE FOR TEENAGERS TO HANG OUT TO LEARN ABOUT JESUS. THAT IS OUR MESSAGE. 
          THAT IS OUR MANDATE. AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO
GET IT DONE. 
          I'M JUST TRUSTING THAT YOU AS A, AS A BOARD WILL LET THIS LET US MOVE FORWARD IN THIS. 
          I WANT TO THANK YOU. HOWEVER YOU VOTE. I RESPECT YOU ALL AND APPRECIATE THE NICE THINGS
YOU SAID ABOUT THE CHURCH, BUT YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING NICE ABOUT ME. SO AT THIS TIME,
I'M GOING TO ASK MR. PRICE TO STEP FORWARD AS THE APPLICANT AND PERHAPS ADDRESSED ANY INITIAL COMMENTS AND,
AND CLOSE OUT WITH 
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PERHAPS ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT SPOKE BEFORE YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS FROM YOURSELF AND THE COUNCIL. 
          YOU KNOW, IT MEANS A LOT TO ME. I TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN CONTINUING TO GROW THIS
COMMUNITY. 
          I GREW UP HERE. MY KIDS ARE GROWING UP HERE,
AND IT'S IT'S IT'S DEFINITELY VERY HEARTENING TO HEAR THAT IT'S BEING NOTICED AND RECOGNIZED. OUR CONTRIBUTION TO THIS GREAT COMMUNITY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS CONCERNS THAT ESPECIALLY THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THEM. 
          I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, THEY WERE THERE FIRST. THIS IS A A GREEN SPACE,
A MOMENT OF PEACE IN THIS HECTIC LIFE OF OURS. 
          AND AND I WANT TO RIP IT APART AND MAKE ROOM FOR MORE NEIGHBORS YOU KNOW,
MORE BARBECUES, MORE APPLE PIES A NICE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID,
IT'S GOING TO BE, AT A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS THE HIGHER END. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, AS A DEVELOPER, SOMEONE WHO JUST DEALS WITH COLD HARD NUMBERS ACRE LOTS
WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE TO BE BUILT. 
          ONE YOU YOU YOU JUST COULDN'T GET THE SERVICES THERE AT A AT A PRICE. 
          IT WOULD ONLY IT WOULD BE A VERY SMALL HOA WITH,
WITH ONLY A FEW MEMBERS, YOU'D BE REQUIRED TO DO AN HOA. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THE STREETS. THEY'D HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE GREEN SPACES,
THE DRAINAGE. JUST THOSE COUPLE OF YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT? TEN NEIGHBORS. BUT BY MAKING IT 40 NEIGHBORS,
WE MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, A SMALL BUT STRONG HOA THAT CAN AFFORD TO PAY ITS BILLS. 
          THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT LIFT STATION. THEY CAN MAINTAIN THOSE ROADS. 
          THEY CAN TAKE CARE OF THE DRAINAGE. I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERNS WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE
UTILITIES. 
          YOU KNOW, WE TAKE CARE OF THAT AS A DEVELOPER. WE PUT IN BRAND NEW,
FRESH UTILITIES. WE UPGRADE THE THE CITY'S UTILITIES MAKE THEM BETTER FOR ALL THE NEIGHBORS. THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC. 
          YOU KNOW, WITH 40 HOMES, WE'RE MATCHING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THIS IS THIS IS WHAT THE STREETS WERE DESIGNED FOR. THEY'VE DONE THE TRAFFIC STUDIES. WE
WE MAKE NO APPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE. 
          THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE WAY BEYOND ANYTHING WE'RE DOING WITH JUST 40 HOMES. 
          I JUST FEEL STRONGLY THAT THIS THIS REALLY HELPS THE COMMUNITY AND MOVES US FORWARD. 
          IT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS LAND. AND AND I,
I WANT TO ASSURE THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, WE DO OUR BEST TO HAVE A DEFT TOUCH. YOU KNOW,
WE DON'T WE DON'T TRY TO TO DISRUPT THEIR LIVES ANY MORE THAN WE HAVE TO. 
          AS, AS WE WE IMPROVE THEIR COMMUNITY AND AND THEIR PROPERTY VALUES. 
          THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. THANK YOU. 
          DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, MR. PRICE? DOES THAT OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS TIME THAT WAS THE LAST SPEAKER. 
          COUNCIL. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF STAFF? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR
A MOTION. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 44. 
          I'LL SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY. 
          COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR. I AGREE WITH THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS. I AGREE WITH THE STAFF REPORT. 
          I WATCHED THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, AND QUITE FRANKLY,
I WAS EMBARRASSED BY THE MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED ON THAT BOARD. 
          THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION. A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T UNDERSTAND LAND USE FOR ZONING. 
          AND THEY DIDN'T COME UP WITH A REASON THAT WAS TRULY FOR DENIAL WAS A LOT OF JUST
FEELINGS. 
          SO FOR THAT REASON, I BASED ON THE FACTORS OF ANALYSIS,
I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. NO COMMENT. MAYOR. 
          ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COMMENT? COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          YEAH. I'D LIKE TO JUST ECHO WHAT I SAID BEFORE. 
          AND I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL. OUR PRIORITY UP HERE IS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A REASON. 
          OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT KEEPING UP. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE PROJECT. 
          I LOVE I ACTUALLY WENT AND SAW ONE OF PRICE'S HOMES. 
          IT'S ON A TWO ACRE LOT OUT IN DEER RUN. AND,
I MEAN, THEY DID AN AMAZING, AMAZING JOB. 
          I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE HOUSE. GREAT PROJECT,
WRONG TIME. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO CATCH UP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. 
          FIRSTLY, WHEN, WHEN WHEN I CAN CALL MALABAR ROAD SOMETHING THAT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY MATTER. 
          THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. 
          JOHNSON. YES. MAYOR I'M TORN. I'M TORN. I'M TORN ON THIS ONE. 
          BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL. 
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BUT I ALSO HAVE SEEN THE BENEFIT OF. WHAT? IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I SEE THE BENEFIT OF WHAT CENTREPOINT'S DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND EXPANDING THAT WILL
EXPAND THEIR REACH FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. 
          BUT ON THE SAME POINT, YOU DON'T NEED FOUR WALLS TO EXPAND YOUR REACH. 
          SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M. I'M TEETERING BACK AND FORTH. 
          I'VE GOT THE CITY ATTORNEY WANTING TO WEIGH IN. 
          DO YOU WANT TO CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS OR DID YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR HERS? YEAH, BECAUSE TO THE POINT OF DEPUTY MAYOR HAS TO BE BASED OFF THE FINDINGS. 
          IT CAN'T BE BASED OFF, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT. 
          SO, YEAH. GO AHEAD. CITY ATTORNEY. MADAM ATTORNEY. 
          THANK YOU. WHICH ACTUALLY DOVETAIL RIGHT INTO WHAT I WANTED TO DO,
WHICH IS TO REMIND YOU ALL THAT WE ARE NOW ON A QUASI JUDICIAL MATTER, BECAUSE I KNOW I'M HEARING A LOT OF SIMILAR COMMENTS TO THE OTHER MATTER,
WHICH WAS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. YOU HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETIONARY. 
          DISCRETION AS FAR AS WHAT YOU APPROVE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          IT'S A LEGISLATIVE IT'S REALLY WHAT YOUR VISION IS. 
          BUT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING DOWN TO QUASI JUDICIAL,
WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. 
          I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL THE REPORT FROM STAFF IS COMPETENT,
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY SAYING THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER DENYING,
WE'RE GOING TO NEED COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN OR DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH WE CAN'T RELY UPON STAFF'S REPORT BECAUSE STAFF REPORT SAYS THAT IT DOES. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME BASIS TO SAY THAT THIS THAT RISES TO THE LEVEL OF COMPETENT,
SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. I JUST WANT TO REMIND
COUNCIL OF THAT. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. YEAH. I'M STILL I'M STILL AN A,
AND I BELIEVE ONE ACRE LOTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I'M STANDING. THAT THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. 
          SO I'M CALLING THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR, SAY I HAVE A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. 
          SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. NAY. NAY. ROLL CALL PLEASE. 
          COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. NAY. COUNCILMAN. NAY. COUNCILMAN. 
          LANGEVIN. YAY! MAYOR. MEDINA. NAY. I'M SORRY,
DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          AYE. MOTION FAILS, 3 TO 2. WE ARE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 11,
MADAM SMITH. 
          ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 28, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR THE ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN REAL PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF WILLOWBROOK STREET IN THE VICINITY,
SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY AND MIRALOMA BOULEVARD, AND LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN. PROVIDED FOR FILING A COPY OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE BREVARD
COUNTY CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT COURT, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICER OF BREVARD COUNTY IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
STATE, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM,
I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL,
ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE ACTING GROWTH DIRECTOR ALTHEA JEFFERSON HERE TO GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THIS IS A NEARLY 33 ACRE PARCEL OF LAND JUST SOUTH OF CYPRESS BAY WEST. IT'S AT THE EXTENSION OF THE NEW INTERCHANGE ON SAINT
JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY, AND THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED, IN ADDITION TO THE ANNEXATION APPLICATION,
TWO OTHER APPLICATIONS WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED IF THEY'RE ANNEXED FOR COMP PLAN AND REZONING CHANGES FROM THE COUNTY DESIGNATIONS TO CITY. 
          YOU'LL SEE THOSE UPON THE SECOND READING OF THIS ANNEXATION ORDINANCE. 
          STAFF MET WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE CITY SURVEYOR,
AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT CREATE ANY ENCLAVES OR SERPENTINE LIKE FINGERS. IT IS A NATURAL EXTENSION OF THE CITY LIMITS. 
          IT WAS REVIEWED BY UTILITIES, ENGINEERING, TRANSPORTATION,
OF COURSE. 
          GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND THE COMMENTS WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE ANNEXATION. 
          THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR
REQUEST. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COUNSEL? SEEING NONE. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? 
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YES. THANK YOU. JAKE WEISS, CIVIL ENGINEER, FOR THE PROJECT. 
          AND WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FOUR STAR HERE IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I MIGHT
NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER. 
          WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON TONIGHT IS SIMPLY THE ANNEXATION. 
          IT'S A VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH STAFF FOR OVER TWO YEARS TO BRING
THIS PROJECT TO FRUITION. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS NEARBY, LIKE ROLLING MEADOWS,
CENTERRA, THEY WENT AHEAD AND DEVELOPED IN THE COUNTY. 
          WE COULD HAVE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO. WE WANTED TO BE PART OF THE CITY. 
          FOUR STAR HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER WITH THE CITY. 
          AND WE THINK THIS PROJECT REALLY FITS WELL IN WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          DO YOU HAVE THE POWERPOINT QUEUED UP? SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH STRAIGHT ZONING, RS THREE. 
          WE'RE ALLOWED UP TO FIVE UNITS AN ACRE IF OUR COMP PLAN IS APPROVED AT THE NEXT MEETING,
BUT WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING 2.2 WHERE WE'RE LOCATED. IS RIGHT HERE IN THIS L SHAPED. 
          NORTH OF HERE IS CYPRESS BAY WEST, WHICH IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          MIRALOMA BOULEVARD, AS PART OF FOUR STARS PROJECTS,
HAS LOOPED ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND, TAKING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC OFF OF THE BABCOCK STREET CORRIDOR. SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY COMES THROUGH HERE TO 95. 
          THIS IS EMERALD LAKES HERE. AND THEN THIS IS CYPRESS BAY PRESERVE,
WHICH IS ENTIRELY BUILT BY FOUR STAR. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO DO PRODUCTS THAT AREN'T ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS ON THE REST OF THOSE
PROJECTS? WE'RE DOING 60 AND 70 FOOT WIDE LOTS, WHILE THE REST OF THEM ARE THE MAJORITY OF
TOWNHOMES, 40 AND 50 FOOT WIDE LOTS. SO WE'RE DISTINGUISHING OURSELVES THAT WAY. 
          WITH ALL OF OUR WORK IN THIS AREA, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO PROVIDE A THERE. 
          IT IS A TEMPORARY FIRE STATION HERE AND A PERMANENT FIRE STATION NEARBY. 
          THE STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIES YOU. SHOW THAT AGAIN,
JAKE. 
          IT'S JUST RIGHT OFF. MIRALOMA. OKAY. AT THE SOUTH END OF THAT LAKE NEXT TO SUNRISE
ELEMENTARY. 
          AND WHERE'S THE OTHER ONE? THE OTHER ONE IS GOING TO BE EITHER EMERALD LAKES ON THIS END
RIGHT HERE. 
          OKAY. OR OVER IN ASHTON PARK. ASHTON PARK. OKAY. 
          SAME WITH THE POLICE STATION. THE POLICE WERE PREFERRING TO BE LOCATED ASHTON PARK. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS WHOLE AREA REGIONALLY AS THIS BOARD KNOWS VERY WELL. 
          SO THE REASON WE'RE NOT DOING A PUD, WHICH YOU'VE SEEN SO MANY PUDS,
IS BECAUSE THE WAY THE CURRENT CODE IS WRITTEN, THE PUD REQUIRES COMMERCIAL. THIS LOCATION JUST WON'T SUPPORT COMMERCIAL. 
          KAMIAH PALM BAY POINT EAST AND WEST ALONG BABCOCK STREET. 
          AND THE PARKWAY HAS 125 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL EMERALD LAKES. 
          RIGHT HERE, RIGHT OFF 95. ALL FOUR QUADRANTS OF THE INTERCHANGE TWO POINT 2,000,000FT² OF
COMMERCIAL. 
          THIS PROJECT JUST CAN'T SUPPORT IT. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RS THREE STRAIGHT
ZONING FOR THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          THESE RESIDENTS WILL SUPPORT THE COMMERCIAL THAT COMES IN WITH THEM AND WITH THE LARGER
LOTS TYPICALLY HAVE LARGER HOUSES AS WELL. 
          SO I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF THE PRIVATE
PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP FOR STAR HAS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT FOUR STAR HAS ALREADY DONE IS MORE THAN 1800 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA. 
          THEY BUILT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UTILITIES,
MASTER STORMWATER SO THAT PUBLIX COULD BE BUILT. 
          THEY SHARED THE SAME UTILITIES THAT FOUR STAR BROUGHT IN. 
          THEY SHARED THE SAME STORMWATER PONDS THAT FOUR STAR CONSTRUCTED. 
          THEY CONSTRUCTED A 20 INCH FORCE MAIN WAY, OVERSIZE,
ALMOST THREE MILES LONG TO SUPPORT THIS WHOLE AREA. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THAT. THEY'VE ALREADY MADE THAT,
WHICH AGAIN HELPS ALL THE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL IN THIS AREA, PLUS THE SCHOOLS THEY BUILT. THE FIRST EXTENSION OF THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY PAST
BABCOCK STREET, WHICH WAS THE WAY THAT INTERCONNECTED WITH MIRALOMA THAT ALLOWED THAT LOOP. 
          THEY WERE A PART OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT WAS INSTALLED AT MIRALOMA AND BABCOCK STREET. 
          HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN BEFORE THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL WAS THERE IN THE
MORNING? IT WAS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE. 
          THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO EXTEND THAT PARKWAY EVEN FURTHER AND UTILITIES FURTHER. 
          AND SO IT'S PROGRESSING TO EXTEND FURTHER WEST WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT DOLLARS. 
          WE HAVE AN ODYSSEY CHARTER SCHOOL THAT IS COMING IN RIGHT HERE JUST WEST OF BABCOCK
STREET, 
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A K TO EIGHT. ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED RECENTLY IS THAT THE BROWARD
COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL BOARD IS GETTING SHORT ON SEATS IN THE K TO EIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING AS A COMMUNITY TO SOLVE THAT. 
          AND ODYSSEY CHARTER SCHOOL COMING IN IS GOING TO DO THAT. 
          THAT SCHOOL IS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF HERE. 
          THESE KIDS ARE GOING TO RIDE THEIR BICYCLES TO THAT SCHOOL. 
          SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT IT BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY. THE NEXT SLIDE JUST TO GET
YOUR BEARINGS HERE. 
          THIS IS THE L SHAPE HERE. NORTH IS TO YOUR LEFT. 
          THIS IS THE EXISTING ROUNDABOUT THAT MIRALOMA BOULEVARD TIES IN WITH THE EXTENSION OF THE
PARKWAY. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE WE'LL EXTEND THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND EXTEND THE PARKWAY AND
UTILITIES TO OUR PROJECT. 
          THE SITE HAS A LOT OF AMENITIES ALL THE WAY AROUND,
A LOT OF GREEN SPACE BUFFERS, LINEAR TRAILS, LARGE TREE PRESERVATION AREA. HERE WE'VE GOT EMERGENCY ACCESS JUST IN CASE. 
          FOR SOME REASON, WE CAN'T GET OUT OF OUR MAIN ENTRANCE. 
          AND REALLY HAVE CREATED A PEDESTRIAN INTERCONNECTIVITY. 
          AND JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE EAST ALONG THIS BOULEVARD ROADWAY. 
          THAT'S THE EXTENSION OF THE PARKWAY. SIDEWALKS ARE ALREADY IN. 
          IT'S A VERY SAFE WAY TO WALK TO THAT COMMERCIAL,
INTO THAT FUTURE SCHOOL. 
          ONE OF THE STAFF COMMENTS WAS THAT THE CHANGE TO RS. 
          THREE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING
PROPERTIES. 
          WILLOWBROOK SUBDIVISION WILL BLEND WELL WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT AND CYPRESS BAY WEST
TO THE NORTH. 
          PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. WE WERE THE ONLY PROJECT APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING. 
          SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THE SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT. 
          YOU'RE NOT VOTING ON THE REZONING TONIGHT. BUT WHEN WE DO COME BACK BEFORE YOU,
WE SEE YOU'LL SEE WE MEET ALL TEN CRITERIA FOR THE SMALL SCALE AMENDMENT. 
          WE ALL MEET ALL SIX CRITERIA FOR THE ZONING. AND THEN WE ARE COMPATIBLE. 
          WE HAVE THE STAFF SUPPORT AND THE PNC SUPPORT AS WELL. 
          SO THAT GIVES YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND. IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AND HAPPY TO
ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. SEEING NONE OR DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WEISS, FOR THE PRESENTATION. CAN YOU SHOW ME HOW FAR YOU PLAN ON EXTENDING
THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY? YEAH, WE ARE FROM THE ROUNDABOUT HERE THAT'S EXISTING. 
          WE'RE EXTENDING IT TO OUR MAIN ENTRANCE, BUT WE'RE PROVIDING THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ALL
THE WAY TO THE END OF OUR PROJECT. 
          OKAY. WE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FOR FOR HOW MANY? FOR HOW MANY LANES? IT WOULD BE TWO LANES AT THIS TIME,
BUT IT WOULD BE DESIGNED FOR FOUR LANES. 
          AND WE'RE PROVIDING THE STORMWATER TREATMENT FOR THE FUTURE FOUR LANING AS WELL. THE
FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE FOUR LANES. 
          YES. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH, I WAS GOING TO ASK THEM TO IT. 
          CARRY ON. I WAS JUST ANSWERING THE QUESTION. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN ANSWER? OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I WAS GOING TO TEE IT OVER TO OUR CITY MANAGER REGARDING THOSE RIGHT OF WAY
ACQUISITIONS. 
          SO ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. MASTER CHIEF, ANYONE ELSE AFTER MASTER CHIEF? BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
          FIRST OFF, I THINK THE CITY OF PALM BAY IS TOO BIG ALREADY BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE INCREASE
THE LAND MASS, THAT EVENTUALLY MEANS WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE DENSITY OR THE POPULATION. 
          AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE HAVE SHORTFALL IN OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRE AND OUR
INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT BECAUSE OUR DENSITY INCREASES. BUT WITH THIS PARTICULAR ANNEXATION. 
          I SAID I WAS IN FAVOR OF PLANNING AND ZONING ON THE ONE REASON WHY I AM IS BECAUSE IF WE
DON'T ANNEX THIS PARCEL INTO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IT WILL GO TO BREVARD COUNTY AND IT WILL BE BUILT OUT USING OUR
RESOURCES, OUR WATER, OUR SEWER THAT WE'VE HAD TO RUN TO THEM. 
          AND WE WON'T GET ANY OF THE TAX REVENUE ON THE BASIS OF THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS IN FAVOR OF ANNEXING THIS ONE PARCEL,
WHICH DOES MAKE THE CITY BIGGER. 
          BUT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO TAKE THE GOOD WITH THE BAD. 
          AS FOR EXPANSION ONTO THE SAINT JOHNS HERITAGE PARKWAY,
I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS GO AHEAD AND PLANNING BUILDING IT OUT FOUR LANE NOW, SO WE'RE DONE WITH IT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE NEXT 30 OR 40 YEARS UNDER CONSTRUCTION,
BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT, AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE PLANNING ON. SO MANY OF THEM KNEW OF IT. 
          IT'LL BE JUST TO OUR NEXT ENTRANCE. WE'LL MAKE IT TWO LANES TO OUR NEXT ENTRANCE,
WILL MAKE IT TWO LANES. 
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GO AHEAD AND BUILD THE SANCTIONS. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT SAY THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT. 
          GO AHEAD AND BUILD IT OUT NOW. BUILD IT OUT FOUR LANES. 
          THAT'LL MAKE THE QUALITY OF LIFE BETTER FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THERE. 
          INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THE NEXT 20 YEARS OF EVERY,
EVERY MONTH OR EVERY TWO YEARS HAVING TO HAVE ANOTHER CONSTRUCTION ZONE ALONG THE SAINT JOHNS JOHN'S HERITAGE PARKWAY. SO BOTTOM LINE,
LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET THIS EXPANSION HAPPEN. 
          ONLY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GIVE US THE MONEY INSTEAD OF THE BREVARD COUNTY,
BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO COME IN THERE WITH SENTARA. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. YOU WANT TO COME UP AND ANSWER THAT? THAT THAT QUESTION. BUILT IT NOW, AND THEY SHALL COME. 
          WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT FIRE. WE ALREADY HAVE THE TEMPORARY STATION,
AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE PERMANENT STATION NEARBY. 
          WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT POLICE, SO THAT IS BEING WORKED ON. 
          THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE PAYING FOR AS PART OF THIS PROJECT,
WE'RE EXTENDING THE UTILITIES. 
          THEY'VE ALREADY EXTENDED A 20 INCH FOR SPAIN. 
          THAT IS A TREMENDOUS EXPENSE OVER THREE MILES FOR THIS WHOLE REGION. 
          RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S EXTENDING A 16 INCH WATER MAIN,
SAME THREE MILES AND EVEN FURTHER TO SUPPORT THE SAME AREA. 
          SO THE DEVELOPERS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN AND ARE PAYING FOR THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          AS FAR AS BUILDING FOUR LANES TODAY, THIS IS A 74 LOT SMALL SUBDIVISION. 
          IT CANNOT AFFORD TO BUILD A FOUR LANE ROAD. THERE'S ONLY TWO LANES COMING IN FROM BABCOCK
STREET TO MIRALOMA RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THE FOUR LANES UNTIL ITS WARRANTED,
WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY WAY PAST MY RETIREMENT. 
          AND SO WE'RE ADDING THE TWO MORE LANES TO BRING IT IN NOW,
BUT WE ARE DESIGNING IT FOR THE FOUR. 
          WE'RE PUTTING THE TWO LANES TOGETHER. SO IT'S REAL EASY TO ADD THE OTHER FOUR LANES ON THE
OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE MEDIAN IN THE FUTURE. 
          IT WOULDN'T IMPACT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AT THAT TIME. 
          IT WOULD JUST BE EASY TO DO THAT THIS TIME. SO THE PLANS WILL BE DONE. 
          THE STORMWATER WILL BE READY. THE STORMWATER CONVEYANCE WILL BE READY SO THAT IT WOULD BE
EASY TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL TWO LANES IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT THIS PROJECT JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO DO FOUR LANES AT THIS TIME. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS,
GUYS? OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. SO AT THIS POINT, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A
MOTION. 
          SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY SECOND COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. 
          ANY ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. ANY OPPOSED? SIGNIFY BY SAYING NAY. PASSES FIVE ZERO. 
          WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 12. MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2025,
DASH 2533. AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY,
FLORIDA, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AND ALLOCATING FUNDS AS IDENTIFIED IN EXHIBIT A, CONSISTING OF TWO PAGES,
AND INCORPORATED IN ITS ENTIRETY HEREIN. 
          RECOGNIZING THAT SUCH APPROPRIATIONS MUST BE MADE PURSUANT TO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF
THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          CHAPTER 35 ADOPTING, RATIFYING, CONFIRMING, AND VALIDATING THE ALLOCATIONS. 
          PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. 
          I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE MR. MORTON PRESENT THIS. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR,
CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS A SECOND READ AND FINAL TIME AT TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING FOR THIS ORDINANCE. IT'S THE QUARTERLY BUDGET AMENDMENT,
WHICH IS ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS COMPLETED IN THE THIRD QUARTER. IF YOU'LL NOTICE, IT'S BASICALLY A TRUE UP DOCUMENT THAT MATCHES EXPENDITURES WITH REVENUES
AND IN SOME INSTANCES, JUST DETAILS THE EXPENSE OF IMPACT FEES OR SPECIFIC FEE FUNDS,
SUCH AS THE I-95 CONNECTOR ROAD FUND OR THE UTILITIES RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT FUND. 
          I DO HAVE WE DO HAVE OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR HERE TONIGHT IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? NONE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? YES, SIR. SEEING NONE. 
          I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          GENTLEMEN, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. 
          AYE. PASSES FOUR ZERO. ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE GO ON TO NEW BUSINESS,
ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THIS? 
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NEXT, AS WE MOVED OUR PROGRAM, I'M GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. 
          SO WE'LL WE'LL TAKE A FIVE. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
I'M GOING TO CALL THIS MEETING BACK TO ORDER. 
          SO WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          [CONSIDERATION OF ITEMS REMOVED FROM CONSENT AGENDA:]
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS MEETING IS NOW IN ORDER AND IN SESSION. 
          WE ARE NOW ON NEW BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER THREE. 
          AND I'M GOING TO DEFER TO DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE TO PRESENT THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, MAYOR. OVER THE LAST WEEK, I THINK COUNCIL,
COLLECTIVELY AS A WHOLE, HAS BEEN RECEIVING EMAILS, PHONE CALLS. I KNOW STAFF'S BEEN RECEIVING PHONE CALLS RELATED TO SOME SOME MESSAGING
ABOUT A PLANNED MARCH THAT'S GOING TO TAKE PLACE AT WALMART AND END AT CITY HALL. AND FOR JUST THE SAKE OF TRANSPARENCY AND THE ABILITY FOR
THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THIS AND FOR THE COUNCIL TO SPEAK ABOUT IT IN THE SUNSHINE, I THOUGHT IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA. 
          OKAY. DOES THAT DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? DID YOU WANT TO GO TO. I'D LIKE TO GO TO SPEAKER CARDS,
MAYOR, AND THEN OPEN UP FOR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. 
          LET'S OPEN UP WITH SPEAKER CARDS. DANIEL MCDOWELL. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DAN MCDOWELL. 1034 BRACE LANE,
WEST MELBOURNE. 
          YOUR NEIGHBOR. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL,
FOR ALLOWING ME TO HAVE A FEW MINUTES HERE OR I'LL MAKE IT BRIEF. 
          ACTUALLY, I WON'T EVEN USE MY FULL THREE MINUTES. 
          I DO EVENT ORGANIZING THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF THROUGHOUT THIS AREA,
AND WE DO PEACEFUL EVENTS AND DEMONSTRATIONS AND RALLIES. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT ALL PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATIONS,
RALLIES. 
          WITH THAT SAID, AS A ALSO AS A FORMER FORMER COUNCILMAN FROM ANOTHER NEIGHBORING CITY,
I AM VERY SENSITIVE TO HOW I DISPLAY AND HOW I REPRESENT MYSELF. AND I WILL SAY THAT I WANT TO PUT ON RECORD
THAT I AM OPPOSED TO THE FLIERS THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED OUT AND DISTRIBUTED. 
          THEY LEAN TOWARDS HATE SPEECH. AND I FEEL VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH WHAT I'VE BEEN SEEING,
AND I CANNOT SUPPORT THOSE, EVEN THOUGH I DO SUPPORT RALLIES THAT ARE PEACEFUL. 
          BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I DO NOT SUPPORT IT. 
          I ACTUALLY REJECT IT. AND AS AN EVENT ORGANIZER,
WE WORK HARD AT TRYING TO KEEP IT PEACEFUL AND MAKE SURE THAT THE DEMONSTRATIONS ARE AND KEEP EVERYONE SAFE. SO I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF EVERYBODY INVOLVED. 
          WITH THAT SAID, I'M ALSO THINKING ABOUT HOW WE REPRESENT OURSELVES AND AS AS AWESOME ROLES
THAT YOU GUYS ARE ALL IN BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE,
I GET IT. 
          IT'S HONORABLE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IT IN PERSPECTIVE. 
          WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AS CANDIDATES,
YOU RAN FOR EVERYONE. 
          YOU RAN FOR THE CITY, AND I THINK YOU GOT TO KIND OF PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE. 
          WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE THINGS, IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR NAME ON SOMETHING,
YOU'RE REPRESENTING EVERYONE IN THE CITY. 
          SO WITH THAT SAID, I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT ON RECORD THAT I DO NOT AGREE WITH
THE LANGUAGE THAT'S BEING USED ON THE CURRENT FLIERS THAT ARE BEING USED FOR THIS MARCH. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DEBORAH. DEBORAH BRACKEN. 
          YOU SAID IT WRONG, BUT YOU'RE GOOD. DEBBIE BROCK 1821 AGORA CIRCLE,
APARTMENT SEVEN. 
          I AGREE WITH THE GENTLEMAN WITH WHAT HE SAID. 
          YOU GENTLEMEN ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LEADERS. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT EVERYONE. 
          THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY EVERYONE. DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE BLACK,
BROWN, GREEN, PURPLE. 
          YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE FOR EVERYBODY. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE UNITY. 
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AND WITH THE FLIERS THAT ARE OUT AND THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE,
YOU HAVE DIVIDED THIS CITY AND IT'S FRACTURED. NOW YOU HAVE TO COME UP AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET US UNITED AGAIN. 
          THAT'S ALL. THE MARCH WHERE THE MAN WAS MURDERED. 
          I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF HIM UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO. 
          A WEEK AGO. OKAY. I LIVE A PEACEFUL LIFE. I'M AN EX SCHOOL BUS DRIVER. 
          I KNOW, CRAZY. AND THIS IS NUTS BECAUSE I WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH MY NEIGHBORS, WITH MY FRIENDS, FAMILIES, MY ENEMIES. 
          ISN'T THAT WHAT JESUS TEACHES US THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOVE EVERYBODY,
AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK PAST THEIR PROBLEMS AND HELP THEM WHEN THEY NEED IT. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS BE LEADERS. 
          UNITE US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MARK MILLER. 
          MARK MILLER, 898 NELSON AVENUE. WHETHER AGREE OR NOT. 
          VOTERS ELECTED ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR PASSION. VOTERS ELECTED CHANDLER FOR HIS RIGHT WING
LEANING VIEWPOINTS, HIS HISTORY, HIS CONNECTION. THEY VOTED FOR HIM. 
          THEY VOTED FOR HIM. EXPECTING HIM TO LIVE OUT THIS IDEOLOGY AND TO BRING THEM INTO THIS
DAIS, RIGHT? WRONG OR INDIFFERENT? IT'S ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT THAN THOSE COMMUNITIES WHO ARE
LEFT WHO ELECT STRONG LEFT WING LEANING REPRESENTATIVES. 
          THEY VOTE FOR THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY WANT THOSE IDEOLOGIES INCORPORATED INTO THEIR
GOVERNMENT, OR THE WAY WE CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS AS A PEOPLE. 
          THEY'RE POLARIZING IDEOLOGIES. UNITY IS HARD TO EXIST,
TO EXPECT TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO 3000 ABORTIONS A DAY. 
          UNITY IS HARD TO EXIST WHEN OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN ARE BEING INDOCTRINATED BY WHAT
TO THINK, INSTEAD OF BEING TAUGHT CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS. 
          36% OF OUR NATION'S YOUTH BELIEVE SOCIALISM IS THE BEST WAY TO GO,
AND 1 TO 2 GENERATIONS THAT WILL COMPLETELY WIPE OUT A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. LOOK IT UP. NELSON MANDELA SAID EDUCATION IS THE MOST POWERFUL WEAPON TO CHANGE
THE WORLD. 
          AND I WOULD ARGUE THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS TO THE AVERAGE SOCIAL MEDIA USER IS ON SOCIAL MEDIA
FOR MORE THAN TWO HOURS A DAY. 
          THERE'S 5 BILLION POSTS A WEEK, AND THERE'S AN ALGORITHM THAT CONTROLS WHAT COMES ACROSS
YOUR PAGE. 
          THESE ALGORITHMS COULD BE USED TO PROMOTE PEACE AND PROMOTE UNITY AND MAN. 
          WHAT A BLESSING THAT WOULD BE TO SO MANY PEOPLE. 
          BUT THERE'S NO MONEY IN IT. AND THERE'S A WAR RAGING FOR OUR NATION AND A BATTLE FOR OUR
SOULS. 
          THERE'S AN ENEMY THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO DRIVE DIVISION,
AND IT'S HARD TO HAVE UNITY WHEN TWO HOURS AND YOU GET AN ALGORITHM FEEDING YOU INFORMATION THAT DRIVES DIVISION INSTEAD OF BRINGING UNITY. 
          EPHESIANS FOUR THREE SAYS, I APPEAL TO YOU, BROTHERS,
TO WATCH OUT FOR THOSE WHO CAUSE DIVISION AND CREATE OBSTACLES THAT ARE CONTRARY TO THE DOCTRINE THAT YOU'VE BEEN TAUGHT. AND WHILE WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE AS NEIGHBORS AND LIVE
IN PEACE, THE EXPECTATION IS THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PUT IN LAWS IN THINGS ON HOW WE CONDUCT
BUSINESS. 
          AND SOMETIMES THAT REQUIRES US THAT LOVE IS NOT ACCEPTANCE OF ALL BEHAVIORS. 
          I CAN'T ACCEPT 3000 ABORTIONS A DAY. I CAN'T ACCEPT INDOCTRINATION. 
          I CAN'T ACCEPT THAT. AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE LORD,
UNITY IS DIFFERENT, IS DIFFICULT BECAUSE HE SAYS, YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE THIS DAY WHOM YOU'RE GOING TO SERVE. 
          AND SO IN THE LAST DAYS, THERE'LL BE TIMES OF MUCH TROUBLE. 
          PEOPLE WILL LOVE THEMSELVES AND MONEY. THEY'LL HAVE PRIDE AND TELL OF ALL THE THINGS
THEY'LL SPEAK AGAINST GOD. CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE WILL NOT OBEY THEIR PARENTS. 
          PEOPLE WILL NOT BE THANKFUL. THEY WILL NOT BE HOLY. 
          THEY WILL NOT LOVE EACH OTHER. THEY CANNOT GET ALONG. 
          THEY WILL TELL LIES. THEY CANNOT KEEP FROM DOING THESE THINGS. 
          THEY'RE WILD AND WILL WANT TO BEAT AND HURT THOSE THAT ARE GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. BUTCHER IN. OH MY GOD. 
          MY NAME IS BUTCH, 219 TRENTON AVENUE. FIRST,
I'D LIKE TO SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE. 
          TODAY IS THEIR BIRTHDAY. 78 YEARS. IN 1968, I TOOK AN OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION
AGAINST FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC ENEMIES. 
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THAT OATH STILL HOLDS TODAY. I SERVED 23 YEARS FROM THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM TO THE DESERTS
OF THE MIDDLE EAST. 
          IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE, EVERY CITIZEN IS GUARANTEED THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH BY
THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION. 
          THIS DOES NOT MEAN YOU CAN ABUSE THAT SPEECH. 
          THE RIGHT. YOU CAN'T THREATEN A PERSON, DEFAME SOMEONE BY SAYING SOMETHING IS TRUE WHEN
IT'S NOT, AND YOU CAN'T INCITE A RIOT. THESE ARE VIOLATIONS OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. 
          WE HAVE THE RIGHT AND ARE ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT WE WANT,
AND WE'RE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT WITHOUT VIOLATING THOSE RULES. 
          IF AN OFFICIAL THREATENS TO CRIMINALIZE, CRIMINALIZE EYES PEOPLE'S OPINION BY CALLING IT
HATE OR EVIL. 
          THEY CAN'T DO THIS. I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WHEN THAT
COUNCIL MEMBER WAS HAD SPEECH OF HATE TOWARD MUSLIMS. AT THAT TIME HE AGREED HE WOULD NOT PUT COUNCIL MEMBER ON ANY MORE
DOCUMENTS. 
          YET HERE WE ARE. I THREATENED FOR AN ETHICS COMPLAINT,
I DROPPED IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO DO NOW. POLITICAL VIOLENCE SURGED DURING THE 60S AND 70S. 
          IF ANY OF YOU CAN REMEMBER THAT JOHN KENNEDY,
MALCOLM X, MALCOLM, MARTIN LUTHER KING. 
          KENT STATE, OR A FEW EXAMPLES. THE 80S WAS A RELATIVE QUIET TIME EXCEPT FOR PRESIDENT
REAGAN AND JAMES BRADY AND THE MAYOR OF EVANSVILLE,
INDIANA. 
          THE 90S A FEW, A FEW SPIKES. OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING WACO. 
          RODNEY KING BEATING AND THE RIOTS THAT FOLLOWED. 
          POLITICAL VIOLENCE HAS BEEN ON THE RISE SINCE 2016. 
          FINANCIAL ANXIETY. UPHEAVAL OF COVID 19. GAY RIGHTS. 
          SAME SEX MARRIAGE. EVIL AND CIVIL RIGHTS. IT'S A SHAME WHEN A LIFE IS TAKEN,
NO MATTER WHAT REASON OR HOW THE KILLING IS DONE. 
          THE ASSASSINATION OF CHARLIE KIRK AND THE KILLING OF A TWO YEAR OLD CHILD IN MELBOURNE. 
          LEADERS NEED TO BE CALM, NOT POINT FINGERS OR BLAME OTHERS. 
          ENCOURAGING CITIZENS TO VIOLENCE TO CALM RATHER THAN VIOLENCE. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. VALERIE DIETRICH. 
          MISS DIETRICH, I'M GOING TO RESET YOUR TIME. BUT I WANTED TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH YOU. 
          WHEN YOU WERE OUTSPOKEN, YOU COULD GET ON THE MIC WHEN YOU WERE OUTSPOKEN. 
          I SHOULD HAVE HANDLED THAT DIFFERENTLY. I, MA'AM,
I SHOULD HAVE HANDLED THAT DIFFERENTLY. 
          HOWEVER, HOWEVER, I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU BECAUSE I RETALIATED. 
          GOT LOUDER THAN YOU, AND THAT WAS SO UNBECOMING OF ME. 
          SO I WANT TO SAY AND APOLOGIZE TO YOU, NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CARRY ON, MISS DIETRICH. 
          MY NAME IS VALERIE DIETRICH. MISS, COME RIGHT. 
          RIGHT TO THE MIC, MISS DIETRICH. I'VE LIVED WELL. 
          I WANTED TO SEE THESE FOLKS TO. TO SEE MY FELLOW PALM BAY. 
          I WASN'T GOING TO BRING UP THE US CONSTITUTION,
BUT LET'S START THERE. 
          THE FIRST AMENDMENT SEPARATES CHURCH AND STATE,
AND THOMAS JEFFERSON FOUGHT REALLY HARD FOR THAT. 
          THEY WOULD BE RADICALS BY TODAY'S STANDARDS,
BECAUSE THEY DREAMED OF A BEAUTIFUL PLACE WHERE EVERYBODY WAS EQUAL. 
          THERE WAS SLAVERY. WOMEN COULDN'T VOTE. I MEAN,
THERE WAS INDENTURED SERVITUDE. 
          IT WASN'T PERFECT. ONLY 1 IN 5 PEOPLE COULD VOTE THEN. 
          ALL RIGHT. AND, AND AND REALLY, THE FIRST AMENDMENT SAYS WE SHOULDN'T BE PRAYING IN
GOVERNMENT PLACES BECAUSE IT EXCLUDES MUSLIMS AND ATHEISTS. YOU'LL BE HERE ALL DAY SAYING PRAYERS TO COVER EVERYONE. 
          SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT. IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT GOVERNMENT BY RELIGION LOOKS LIKE,
LOOK TO THE CURRENT DAY MIDDLE EAST. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN AMERICA. I TOO BELIEVE IN PROTEST. 
          WE STOPPED THE VIETNAM WAR. I HELPED HELP LOWER THE VOTING AGE TO 18 BECAUSE THE
CONSTITUTION MADE IT 21, AND THE PEOPLE I GRADUATED WITH WERE SENT OFF TO A WAR WE ALREADY KNEW WERE LOST. 
          THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE TO THEY WERE SACRIFICED TO THAT. 
          IT WAS HORRIBLE. IT WAS HORRIBLE FOR THEM. MY FRIENDS,
MY 18 YEAR OLD FRIEND HAD TO DECIDE WHETHER TO RUN OFF TO CANADA AND NEVER SEE THEIR 
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FAMILY AGAIN OR BE SHIPPED TO NAM. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. 
          NOW WE STAND HERE TODAY AND THIS PERSON I NEVER HEARD OF,
I GREW UP. 
          I REMEMBER MARTIN LUTHER KING BEING SHOT, AND I REMEMBER MARCHING IN CIVIL RIGHTS
MOVEMENTS AND MY BLACK FRIENDS GETTING BEAT AND ME GETTING BEAT BECAUSE I WAS THERE. I WAS A WOMAN CHEMISTRY MAJOR BEFORE TITLE NINE,
AND I HAD TO LISTEN TO LECTURES ABOUT HOW I WAS INFERIOR BECAUSE I HAD TWO X CHROMOSOMES AND SHOULDN'T BE A CHEMIST. AND THAT'S WHAT THAT PERSON THINKS,
THAT YOU WANT TO HONOR THAT WOMEN AREN'T EQUAL, THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE MELANIN PIGMENT IN THEIR SKIN AREN'T EQUAL. 
          YOU REPRESENT ALL OF PALM BAY, ALL OF PALM BAY,
AND AND WE NEED TO UNITE AS A COUNTRY AND PROTECT OUR US CONSTITUTION. JUSTICE FOR ALL IS EXACTLY WHAT THE UNITED STATES SHOULD STAND FOR. 
          AND LETTING THIS PERSON WHO HATES PEOPLE BECAUSE OF GENETIC THINGS. 
          HE'S INSANE AND HE'S CRAZY. IT'S YOUR JOB TO BRING US TOGETHER,
NOT TO BE PREJUDICED AGAINST PEOPLE FOR THE WAY THEY'RE BORN. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ROBIN PEREZ. I ALSO WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR DECORUM. THANK YOU. 
          AND SORRY, I GOT A LITTLE LOUD. HELLO, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS ROBIN. I'VE LIVED IN PALM BAY FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS,
BUT I LIVED IN BREVARD FOR OVER 20 YEARS. 
          I'M A TEACHER, I'M A MOM, AND I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER SPOKEN PUBLICLY. 
          SO I FELT VERY MOVED TO COME HERE THIS EVENING BECAUSE OF THE DEEP DIVISIONS AND HATE WE
ARE FACING. 
          SOME ARE CALLING FOR A MARCH AGAINST LEFT WING EVIL,
BUT AN EVENT LIKE THIS IS MISGUIDED AND DANGEROUS. 
          WHEN WE DEMONIZE ENTIRE GROUPS OF PEOPLE, WE DON'T CALM FIRES OF EXTREMISM. 
          WE POUR FUEL ON THEM. WE NEED TO REMEMBER, EXTREMIST VIOLENCE IN RECENT AMERICAN HISTORY
HAS NOT BEEN ONE SIDED. 
          IN 2015, A FAR RIGHT WHITE SUPREMACIST ENTERED A CHURCH IN CHARLESTON,
SOUTH CAROLINA, AND MURDERED NINE PARISHIONERS DURING A BIBLE STUDY. 
          IN 2017, AT THE UNITE THE RIGHT RALLY IN CHARLOTTESVILLE,
AN EXTREMIST DROVE HIS CAR INTO A GROUP OF COUNTER-PROTESTERS PROTESTERS, KILLING A WOMAN AND INJURING DOZENS. ON JANUARY 6TH,
2021, FAR RIGHT PROTESTERS ATTACKED OFFICERS AT OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, LEADING TO DEATH AND INJURY ON BOTH SIDES. IN 2022,
A GUNMAN RADICALIZED BY FAR RIGHT PROPAGANDA OPENED FIRE IN BUFFALO SUPERMARKET IN A BUFFALO SUPERMARKET, KILLING TEN SHOPPERS. IN JUNE 2025,
DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE MELISSA HORTMAN, HER HUSBAND AND DOG WERE KILLED IN THEIR HOME. 
          THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES. ALL ACTS OF VIOLENCE ARE HORRIFIC TRAGEDIES AND WE SHOULD
ABSOLUTELY CONDEMN VIOLENCE AND HATE. 
          BUT WHEN LEADERS CALL FOR A MARCH AGAINST LEFT WING EVIL,
WE MUST ASK WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE? WHO BENEFITS FROM PAINTING OUR NEIGHBORS AS ENEMIES? THE TRUTH IS, EXTREMISM AND EVIL DOES NOT WEAR ONE COLOR OR BELONG TO ONE SIDE OF THE
POLITICAL SPECTRUM. 
          WHEN WE SINGLE OUT ONE GROUP, WE PLAY A DANGEROUS GAME OF SCAPEGOATING THAT HISTORY HAS
WARNED US AGAINST. 
          TRULY, WE HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON THAN WE THINK. 
          WE WANT A STRONG, SAFE COMMUNITY. WE WANT OUR FAMILIES AND LOVED ONES TO BE CARED FOR AND
HEALTHY. 
          WE WANT SAFE SCHOOLS. WE WANT TO AFFORD OUR GROCERIES. 
          WE WANT TO SEE OUR CHILDREN SMILE, AND WE VALUE OUR FREEDOMS AS AMERICANS. 
          BUT WE'RE SO DISTRACTED WITH EXTREMISM THAT WE CAN'T FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES THAT AFFECT ALL
OF US. 
          THE ONLY PATH FORWARD IS NOT MARCHES AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. 
          IT'S STANDING TOGETHER FOR A BETTER FUTURE, CHOOSING CIVIL DISAGREEMENT OVER HOSTILITY AND
A LOVE FOR HUMANITY OVER POLITICS AND FEAR. 
          LEADERS OF PALM BAY, I URGE YOU, DO NOT CALL FOR EVENTS THAT WILL DEEPEN OUR DIVIDES. 
          CALL INSTEAD FOR DIALOGS THAT HEAL OUR COMMUNITY AND NATION. 
          DO NOT INFLAME FIRES OF HATE. INSTEAD, LOOK TO INSPIRE EMPATHY,
UNDERSTANDING AND SERVICE. 
          BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FUTURE THAT'S WORTH LIVING IN,
IT WILL NOT BE BUILT ON MARCHES AGAINST EACH OTHER, BUT ON STEPS TOWARD EACH OTHER. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          ALEXIS PURNELL. HELLO. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER. MY NAME IS ALEXIS. I LIVE IN
PALM BAY, FLORIDA, 32 907, AS AN INVOLVED DEMOCRAT IN PALM BAY NATIVE. 
          THE ACTIONS TAKEN BY COUNCILMAN LYNNHAVEN. APOLOGIES IF I PRONOUNCED THE NAME WRONG ARE
EXTREMELY CONCERNING. 
          THE CITY OF PALM BAY PRIDES ITSELF ON BEING A DIVERSE COMMUNITY THAT IS AMONG FLORIDA'S
PREMIER PLACES TO LIVE, 
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WORK AND PLAY. HOW IS IT ACCEPTABLE FOR ANY COUNCILMAN ON THIS,
SITTING ON THIS NONPARTIZAN COUNCIL, TO BE MAKING NUMEROUS SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS CALLING FOR THE PUNISHMENT OF,
QUOTE, LEFT WING EVIL? THE VISION FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY CLAIMS THAT THE CITY HAS A, QUOTE, STRONG SENSE OF COMMUNITY, UNITY AND PRIDE. 
          BUT WE HAVE A SITTING COUNCILMAN THAT HAS POSTED NUMEROUS TIMES. 
          THERE IS NO SENSE OF UNITY TO BE HAD WITH THOSE HE HAS DEEMED PART OF THE EVIL LEFT. 
          I WATCHED THE COUNCILMAN POST CONTINUOUSLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY OF SEPTEMBER 11TH ON HIS
PUBLIC FORMERLY KNOWN AS TWITTER ACCOUNT, WHERE HIS HANDLE IS AT CHANDLER FOR PB ACCOUNT,
CALLING FOR FURTHER DIVISION BETWEEN OUR COMMUNITY, SAYING THINGS LIKE, QUOTE, AND AMERICA'S FIRST 100 YEARS AND QUITE FRANKLY,
OUR BEST 100 YEARS. 
          WE DID A LOT OF KILLING. IT WAS WHEN WE STOPPED KILLING AND STARTED SINGING KUMBAYA WITH
WITH COMMUNISTS THAT OUR COUNTRY BEGAN GOING DOWNHILL. 
          QUOTE. WORLD WAR ONE WAS STARTED FOR LESS. QUOTE,
IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DOESN'T DO SOMETHING EXTREME RIGHT NOW, THEN YOUR PEOPLE ARE GOING TO QUOTE, TIT FOR TAT IS NOT ENOUGH. 
          WE NEED TO SALT THE EARTH WITH THE REMAINS OF EVERY COMMUNIST IN THIS COUNTRY. 
          QUOTE THE CIVIL WAR HAS BEGUN. EITHER THE FEDS SUSPEND HABEAS CORPUS AND START DOING SOME
WILD STUFF, OR THEY STAND OUT OF OUR WAY WHEN WE DO IT FOR THEM. 
          THERE IS NO LONGER A PEACEFUL SOLUTION. THE IRONY THAT MR. LANGEVIN BOASTS ABOUT BEING A TRUE PATRIOT, WHILE NOT ONE POSTED,
NOT ONCE POSTING ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS TO HONOR THE VICTIMS OF NINE OVER 11, THE OF THE NINE OVER 11 TERRORIST ATTACK HAS NOT BEEN LOST ON ME. 
          INSTEAD, ON A DAY THAT SHOULD INSPIRE AMERICANS TO STAND TOGETHER,
THE COUNCILMAN POSTED CONTINUOUSLY CALLING FOR FURTHER DIVISION AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION AGAINST THOSE HE DEEMS AS AN ENEMY. MY QUESTION TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          WHAT MAKES A COMMUNIST? JUDGING BY MR. LANGEVIN'S CONTINUOUS POSTING,
IT COULD BE SOMEONE WHO ATTENDED A PEACEFUL PROTEST SUPPORTING THE NO KING'S MOVEMENT, THE BLACK LIVES MATTERS MOVEMENT, OR THE WOMEN'S MARCH. 
          IT COULD BE SOMEONE THAT IS A MEMBER OR SUPPORTS THE LGBTQI COMMUNITY. 
          COULD IT BE CITIZENS THAT SUPPORT MEDICARE FOR ALL? COULD IT BE CITIZENS THAT DISAGREE
WITH THE COUNCILMAN'S CHRISTIAN PRACTICING IN ENGLISH ONLY PREROGATIVES, ENGLISH SPEAKING ONLY PREROGATIVES? I LOVE MY COMMUNITY AND MY COUNTRY,
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE ACTIONS OF THIS COUNCILMAN ARE A DISGRACE TO THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO TAKE A STAND AND LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE TRULY
BELIEVE IN A BEAUTIFUL, FREE, DIVERSE AND UNIFIED CITY OF PALM BAY. AS THE CITY'S VISION PROCLAIMS,
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          THANK YOU. RICHARD WEBER. 
          GOOD EVENING. I'M RICHARD BEEVER AND I LIVE AT 1514 CLEAR LAKE ROAD IN COCOA,
FLORIDA. 
          32922. THIS IS REALLY BAD. COMMISSIONER LANGEVIN HAS PUT OUT STARTED A MARCH, AND I WANT TO BRING THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF EVERYBODY LISTENING. 
          IT SAYS MARCH FOR CHARLIE KIRK AND ALL VICTIMS OF LEFT WING EVIL. 
          THINK OF THAT. IS THAT PARTIZAN? IS THIS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS COMMISSIONERS BEING
PARTIZAN LIKE THAT? AND THE FLIER, IT SAYS PICK THE NAME OF ONE VICTIM OF SOFT ON CRIME POLICIES,
INEPT MILITARY LEADERSHIP OR ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WRITE THEIR NAMES ON A SIGN AND PRINT OUT PICTURES IF
POSSIBLE. 
          WE WILL GATHER. IT SAYS ALSO BRING CHRISTIAN AND PATRIOTIC FLAGS. 
          OKAY, I'M GOOD FOR THE PATRIOTIC FLAGS. KRISTEN. 
          OKAY, THIS IS NOTHING ELSE. SOMETHING ELSE THAT SHOULD NOT BE BROUGHT UP IN COMMISSIONERS
CHAMBERS. 
          SCHOOLS SHOULD NOT HAVE RELIGION INSTITUTED IN THEIR SCHOOLS. 
          WELL, YOU CAN HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ANY RELIGION,
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS BIPARTISAN STUFF. 
          APPLIES TO RELIGION TOO. EVIDENTLY IS WRITTEN IN MANY IN THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. 
          IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE EDUCATION. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME DIVISION BETWEEN STATE AND
STATIN AND SCHOOL AND AND RELIGION AND OKAY. SO ANYWAY BESIDES ATTRIBUTING THE DEATH OF CHARLIE KIRK TO A LEFTIST PERSON,
WHICH WAS NOT KNOWN AT THIS TIME, HE ACTUALLY CAME FROM A REPUBLICAN FAMILY. AND, WELL, ALL SORTS OF THINGS COME OUT IN THE MEDIA SENSE,
BUT NONETHELESS THIS THIS ATTACK ON THE LEFT WING IS JUST HORRIBLE. 
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IT'S DIVISIVE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE ON THE VERGE OF MAYBE A CIVIL WAR. 
          AND IT'S NOT THE LEFT WING, IT'S THE RIGHT WING. 
          IT'S PEOPLE FOMENTING THIS DIVISIVENESS WITH HATE LIKE CHARLIE KIRK IN THIS GENTLEMAN. 
          THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER. GRETCHEN. 
          ZIEGLER. ZIEGLER. SORRY. I'M OLD. 
          GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS GRETCHEN ZIEGLER, AND I LIVE IN MELBOURNE,
FLORIDA. 
          I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT A REALLY IMPORTANT COMMUNITY ISSUE THAT THIS COUNCILMAN,
CHANDLER LANGEVIN, I BELIEVE, IS MISUSING HIS PUBLIC OFFICE AND POSSIBLY EVEN PUBLIC FUNDS TO OVERSTEP THE
BOUNDS OF HIS SUPPOSEDLY NONPARTISAN POSITION. 
          A GOOD LEADER TRIES TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND FOCUSES ON COMMON GROUND. 
          LANGEVIN SPONSORING THIS PARTIZAN MARCH AND HIS ONLINE PUSH FOR DIVISION AND TENSION IN
OUR SHARED COMMUNITY IS UNACCEPTABLE. 
          THIS PUBLICLY ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS AN OBLIGATION TO REPRESENT ALL OF HIS CONSTITUENTS. 
          THE SUBJECT OF LANVIN'S MARCH, CHARLIE KIRK,
WAS SEEN AS A POLITICALLY DIVISIVE INDIVIDUAL, AND HE HAD NO TIES TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY,
OR EVEN THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS DECIDING TO HAVE A MARCH FOR HIM HERE, AN ATTEMPT TO USE A MAN'S DEATH AND A FAMILY'S GRIEF TO FORWARD LANGEVIN'S OWN POLITICAL
ASPIRATIONS. 
          THIS DECISION ADDS FUEL TO A CONFLICT. WITH WHAT WE REALLY NEED FROM OUR LEADERS IS A PUSH
FOR COLLABORATION IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IF LANGEVIN IS SET ON OFFICIALLY SPONSORING A MARCH TO HONOR VICTIMS OF POLITICAL
VIOLENCE, WHY NOT HAVE A MARCH FOR THE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO DIED ON SEPTEMBER 11TH? OR THE ASSASSINATION OF REPRESENTATIVE MELISSA HORTMAN AND HER HUSBAND IN MINNESOTA COULD
CHOOSE TO HONOR SCHOOL SHOOTING VICTIMS INSTEAD. 
          WHERE WAS HIS PASSION WHEN FIVE STUDENTS WERE SHOT ON FSU'S CAMPUS THIS PAST APRIL? BREVARD COUNTY HAS STRONG TIES TO HEROIC PEOPLE RIGHT HERE AT HOME. 
          ASTRONAUTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT. FIREFIGHTERS. NOT ONE,
BUT TWO MILITARY BASES FULL OF HONORABLE SERVICE MEMBERS. 
          WE HAVE HEROES IN THE AREAS OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION,
COMMUNITY SERVICE AND EQUALITY. 
          THERE ARE SO MANY INDIVIDUALS IN OUR OWN BACKYARD WHOSE SERVICE HAS BEEN FORGOTTEN. 
          WHY WOULDN'T LANGEVIN CHOOSE TO CHAMPION SOMEONE CLOSER TO HOME? INSTEAD, HE HAS CHOSEN TO USE HIS TAXPAYER FUNDED POSITION TO FOSTER A RIGHT VERSUS LEFT
PUSH IN OUR COMMUNITY, DEMONIZING AN ENTIRE DEMOGRAPHIC TO SUIT HIS NARRATIVE OF LEFT WING EVIL BREEDS DISTRUST
AND CONFLICT BETWEEN NEIGHBORS, AND IS A HATEFUL AND IRRESPONSIBLE ACTION FOR A PUBLIC SERVANT. 
          I URGE YOU TO TAKE ACTION TOWARD MAKING SURE THAT PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL IS KNOWN FOR
FOSTERING TOGETHERNESS AND NOT DIVISION. 
          THANK YOU. CARLOS. MCKINLEY. MCCAULEY. 
          THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME. I'M CARLOS MCCAULEY. 
          I LIVE IN 1964 BROOKSIDE STREET NORTHEAST, AND I AM I'M A BREVARD DEMOCRAT. 
          I'M NOT WEARING MY DEMOCRAT SHIRT, WHICH I USUALLY DO ANYWAY. 
          ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, JUST BEFORE 4:00, I GOT A NOTICE ON MY COMPUTER BECAUSE I'M A YOUTUBE
VIEWER OF PODCASTERS ON YOUTUBE THAT CHARLIE KIRK HAD BEEN SHOT, AND I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE A BAD DAY BECAUSE ON
WEDNESDAYS I TYPICALLY AM BETWEEN 05:00 AND 7:00 IN FRONT OF CHILI'S AT BABCOCK AND PALM BAY ROAD,
PROTESTING TESTING AND MY SIGNS READ LIKE THIS. 
          STOP PROJECT 2025 UNITE AMERICA. IMPEACH. CONVICT. 
          REMOVE. MY OTHER SIGN SAYS BILLIONAIRES WANT AMERICANS TO BE SLAVES. 
          ELON MUSK GO. MY OTHER SIGN SAYS TRUMP SUCKS. 
          UNITE AMERICA, PUTIN KILLS CRITICS 4547 WANTS TO DO IT TO UNITE AMERICA. 
          MY OTHER SIGNS SAY WHO IS ON JEFF'S LIST? DUE PROCESS. 
          ALL PERSONS DESERVE DUE PROCESS. APATHY IS NOT AN OPTION. 
          GERRYMANDER FREE FOR ALL OR BAN FREE. DC AND LA OF TRUMP. 
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BREVARD DEMS JOIN US. DO THESE SOUND LIKE. EXTREME IDEAS. WE'RE ALL. SIR. SIR, SIR. WE'RE ALL AMERICANS,
AREN'T WE? WE ARE ALL AMERICANS. I'M JUST A SECOND. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THE AUDIENCE DOES NOT
ENGAGE WITH THE SPEAKERS. 
          THANK YOU. CARRY ON. SIR. OKAY. SO ON WEDNESDAY,
I WENT TO PROTEST, AS TYPICAL. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HONK. THEY GIVE US THE THUMBS UP. 
          THEY GIVE US THE THUMBS DOWN. THEY GIVE US THE BIRD. 
          AND AS WE WERE CLOSING UP, ONE OF THE PATRONS CAME OUT OF CHILI'S,
AND HE WAS HOT. 
          VERY HOT. AND AS WE WERE PACKING UP, WE HAD ONE GUY WHO WAS STILL PROTESTING. 
          HE HAD HIS PLACARDS UP, AND HE STARTED YELLING AT THIS LONE PROTESTER AND BLAMING HIM FOR
CHARLIE KIRK'S DEATH. 
          AND IT GOT UGLY. FORTUNATELY NOTHING HAPPENED. 
          AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. NEXT SPEAKER. KEVIN VACCHIANO. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL. I HAVEN'T BEEN TO COUNCIL MEETINGS IN A WHILE. 
          I WORK A LOT. SO TO COME OUT HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THIS GIVES ME GOOSEBUMPS,
BUT LET'S TALK. 
          I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A POLITICIAN. NOT AS A POLITICIAN,
NOT AS BUT AS A NEIGHBOR, A FATHER, A PROUD MEMBER OF THE PALM BAY COMMUNITY. MY FAMILY MOVED HERE IN 2009. 
          LIKE MANY OF YOU, WE WERE SEEKING A PLACE THAT WE CAN GROW AND RAISE OUR CHILDREN LIVE
WITH HOPE FOR THE FUTURE. AND WHEN WE ARRIVE, I QUICKLY FELL IN LOVE WITH PALM BAY. 
          NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS,
BUT BECAUSE OF THE WARMTH, THE GENEROSITY, THE SPIRIT OF THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THIS PLACE HOME. 
          OVER THE YEARS, I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF INVESTING IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          I STARTED SEVERAL BUSINESSES HERE, INCLUDING ASSISTANT LIVING FACILITIES. 
          WE HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE COMPASSION AND THE CARE OUR CITIZENS SHOW FOR ONE ANOTHER. 
          IN 2018, BECAUSE OF MY DEEP LOVE FOR THE CITY,
I REACHED OUT TO BRIAN ANDERSON AND THOMAS QUAM, AND TOGETHER WE ESTABLISHED A CITIZENS GROUP THAT PLAYED AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN GETTING THE
PALM BAY ROAD BOND PASSED. 
          PAST THAT EFFORT WAS PROOF OF WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHEN WE UNITE AROUND OUR COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS WHY I'M HERE TODAY. THIS SATURDAY, THERE IS AN EVENT PLANNED IN OUR CITY THAT DOES NOT AIM TO UNITE US,
BUT TO SEPARATE US. 
          IT IS BEING FRAMED AS A MARCH FOR ONE SIDE AGAINST ANOTHER,
BUT ASKED, IS THIS REALLY WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR CITY? IS THAT WHAT WE WANT FOR OUR CHILDREN TO WITNESS NEIGHBORS STANDING AGAINST NEIGHBORS? WE ALL KNOW THAT AMERICA IS STRONGER WHEN WE STAND TOGETHER,
NOT WHEN WE TEAR EACH OTHER APART. 
          PALM BAY IS A MICROCOSM OF A GREAT COUNTRY. WE ARE DIVERSE,
HARD WORKING AND RESILIENT. OUR DIFFERENCES POLITICAL, CULTURAL OR PERSONAL,
ARE NOT OUR WEAKNESS. 
          THEY ARE STRENGTHS. WHEN WE CHOOSE TO LISTEN,
RESPECT AND LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BREEZE. 
          OKAY. GET COMFY. SORRY. IT'S WARM. OKAY. HI. MY NAME IS BRI. 
          I'M A RESIDENT OF MELBOURNE, SO NOT FROM PALM BAY,
BUT BORN AND RAISED IN MELBOURNE. 
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PALM BAY IS PART OF MY HOME. SO IF YOU'RE NOT A NAZI,
WHY DOES PUNCH NAZIS THREATEN YOU IF YOU'RE NOT RACIST? WHY DOES MAKE RACISTS AFRAID AGAIN THREATEN YOU THE WAY YOU DIE? DOES NOT HONOR THE WAY YOU LIVED? ALL RIGHT. AND THE BIG PART,
IT IS WILDLY INAPPROPRIATE TO ME THAT ANYONE IN FLORIDA WOULD BOTHER TO HOST A CHARLIE KIRK MARCH AND CHAMPION SUCH A HATEFUL AND DIVISIVE INDIVIDUAL. 
          IT IS BEYOND IRRESPONSIBLE TO CLAIM KIRK WAS A VICTIM OF LEFT WING EVIL. 
          HE WAS A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE AND SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN TO CELEBRATE. 
          SOMEONE WHO SPEWED SUCH HATRED CREATES MORE DIVISION. 
          IF KIRK WAS A LITTLE BOY IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL,
WE WOULD HAVE FORGOTTEN ABOUT HIM AT THIS POINT. 
          SO PLEASE ALLOW ME TO GIVE YOU A SAMPLE OF SOME OF HIS IDEAS AND BELIEFS. 
          IF YOU REALLY AGREE WITH ANY OF THIS, I THINK YOU SHOULD DO SOME SERIOUS SELF-REFLECTION. 
          I THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO HAVE A COST OF, UNFORTUNATELY,
SOME GUN DEATHS EVERY SINGLE YEAR SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO PROTECT OUR OTHER GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. I CAN'T STAND EMPATHY. 
          I THINK EMPATHY IS A MADE UP NEW AGE TERM THAT IT DOES A LOT OF DAMAGE,
BUT IT IS VERY EFFECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO POLITICS. 
          INTERESTING. REJECT FEMINISM. SUBMIT TO YOUR HUSBAND,
TAYLOR SWIFT. 
          YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE. MEN DESERVE TO ALWAYS CONTROL THEIR FEMALE PARTNERS,
AND FEMALES SHOULD ALWAYS BE SUBMISSIVE TO THEIR MALE PARTNERS. 
          THERE IS NO SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. IT'S A FABRICATION. 
          IT'S A FICTION. IT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION. 
          IT'S MADE UP BY SECULAR HUMANISTS. I JUST THINK IT'S DISGUSTING THAT AN ELECTED
NONPARTIZAN OFFICIAL WOULD TRY TO CHAMPION SOMEONE WHO IS SO HATEFUL. 
          YEAH. ISABELLA. 
          HELLO, I'M ISABELLA OLANDER AND I LIVE IN MELBOURNE. 
          I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR MY ENTIRE LIFE,
GREW UP HERE, WENT TO EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL HERE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE HAD TO DO ON THE REGULAR? WE HAD TO PRACTICE FOR SCHOOL SHOOTINGS ON THE REGULAR. 
          I HAD TO TAKE TIME OUT OF MY LEARNING DAY ON THE REGULAR TO PRACTICE FOR GUN VIOLENCE. 
          THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S FLORIDA,
RIGHT? SO MY QUESTIONS ARE, ARE YOU GUYS ALSO MARCHING FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE KILLED IN
SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, ALL THE CHILDREN, ALL THE LIVES THAT WERE LOST. 
          DID YOU EVER HOLD A MARCH FOR THE PARKLAND SHOOTING? ARE YOU GOING TO BE HOLDING A MARCH FOR TREY REED? THE 21 YEAR OLD MAN FOUND HUNG IN DELTA STATE UNIVERSITY JUST RECENTLY. 
          HE WAS FOUND HUNG BY A TREE, BEATEN TO A PULP. 
          A BLACK MAN, A 21 YEAR OLD BLACK MAN WHO HAD HIS ENTIRE LIFE AHEAD OF HIM. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO ALSO BE MARCHING FOR HIM? BECAUSE YOUR MARCH,
THIS NONPARTIZAN MARCH THAT YOU WANT TO DO IS NOT NONPARTIZAN. IT IS COMPLETELY MAGA DRIVEN. 
          IT IS COMPLETELY WRONG TO BE MARCHING FOR A MAN WHO SPREAD SO MUCH HATE INTO THE WORLD. 
          WHO SAID ALL OF THOSE QUOTES THAT YOU JUST HEARD,
THOSE WERE LEGITIMATE QUOTES THAT CHARLIE KIRK HAD SAID TO PEOPLE, TO US AMERICANS. HE DID NOT CARE ABOUT WOMEN. 
          HE DID NOT CARE ABOUT COLORED INDIVIDUALS. AND ALL HE DID WAS SPREAD HATE. 
          SO TO HAVE A MARCH HONORING THIS MAN IS COMPLETELY INSANE. 
          AND TO HAVE YOU GUYS BACKING IT ANYONE OF A COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE BACKING IT IS CRAZY. 
          HONESTLY, AND AS A YOUTH, I'M REALLY SCARED FOR MY FUTURE BECAUSE I CONTINUOUSLY HAVE TO
LIVE IN FEAR OF THIS GUN VIOLENCE THAT WE OBVIOUSLY CAN SEE IS TRUE. 
          THANK YOU. SPEAKER CYNTHIA SATURDAY. BROUGHT EVERYBODY OUT. 
          HEY Y'ALL, I'M CINDY SATURDAY. I LIVE AT 5150 PALM BAY. 
          5150 DIXIE HIGHWAY, PALM BAY. AND I'M HERE ABOUT THIS HONORING CHARLIE KIRK. 
          HIS QUOTES ARE BLACK WOMEN DO NOT HAVE THE PROCESSING POWER TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. 
          YOU HAVE TO GO STEAL A WHITE PERSON'S SLOT. I CANNOT STAND THE WORD EMPATHY. 
          I THINK EMPATHY IS MADE UP NEW AGE TERM AND DOES NOT DOES A LOT OF DAMAGE. 
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WE MADE A HUGE MISTAKE WHEN WE PASSED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT IN 1960S. 
          MLK WAS AWFUL. HE'S NOT A GOOD PERSON. IF I SEE A BLACK PILOT,
I'M GOING TO BE LIKE, BOY, I SURE HOPE HE'S QUALIFIED. LGBTQ IS A SOCIAL CONTAGION. 
          WE NEED ARMED MILITIAS TO PREVENT THE DIMINISHING AND DECREASING OF WHITE DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          IS THIS THE MAN YOU WANT TO HONOR? FROM 2016? AS FAR AS THIS EVIL LEFT VIOLENCE FROM 2016 TO 2020,
54 INSTANCES OF VIOLENCE AND ALLEGED ASSAULTS AND THREATS WERE TRUMP WAS EXPLICITLY INVOKED WAS 41 ECHOING TRUMP AND 13 IN DEFIANCE OF TRUMP. 
          41 PRO TRUMP INSPIRED VIOLENCE, ACTS OF VIOLENCE. 
          THE LAST FIVE YEARS, 81 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED BY POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN AMERICA. 
          THE RIGHT WING TERRORISTS ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN HALF OF THOSE MURDERS,
54%. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO HONOR THOSE 54% DURING YOUR MARCH? THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. NEXT SPEAKER, RUTH COUGHLIN. 
          MR. MAYOR, ON. JUSTICE. RUTH COFFEY, 935 DOUGLAS STREET, PALM BAY. I AM ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS MARCH FOR CHARLIE KIRK. I'M A USA FAITH BREVARD COUNTY HUB LEADER. 
          WE BELIEVE IN CHARLIE KIRK'S MISSION TO RESTORE AMERICA BACK TO ITS GODLY ROOTS, INCLUDING THE CONSTITUTION OF WHICH THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD NO PART. 
          HE WAS IN FRANCE AT THE TIME. HE DIDN'T WRITE ANY PART OF THAT CONSTITUTION. 
          HE WROTE THE DECLARATION. HE DID A GREAT JOB. 
          SO THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE DOESN'T EXIST IN ANY FOUNDING DOCUMENTS IN THIS
COUNTRY. 
          IT WAS A PHRASE THAT THOMAS JEFFERSON WROTE IN A PERSONAL LETTER TO THE DANBURY BAPTISTS. 
          THERE IS WHAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CHERISH SO MUCH IS GODLY AMERICA,
BECAUSE OUR AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON GODLY PRINCIPLES. OUR FOUNDING FATHERS READ THE BIBLE COVER TO COVER HOWEVER,
EVERY SINGLE YEAR OUR CHILDREN LEARN FROM IT EVERY SINGLE DAY IN THEIR SCHOOLROOM BECAUSE IT WAS THE MANDATORY
SCHOOL BOOK IN AMERICA, IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER CATECHISMS THAT WE HAD THAT WOULD TEACH US ALL ABOUT OUR
FOUNDING DOCUMENTS. 
          OUR FOREFATHERS DID NOT GET OFF THE MAYFLOWER UNTIL THEY HAD A FOUNDING DOCUMENT. 
          AND IT THEY CLAIM THIS LAND FOR CHRISTIANITY. 
          SO. THIS PHRASE THE THE PART OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT SAYS CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAW
RESPECTING AN ESTABLISHMENT OF RELIGION, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF. 
          NO MENTION OF SEPARATION. NO MENTION OF STATE OR NOR CHURCH. 
          SO CHANDLER AND I DON'T SEE EYE TO EYE ON A LOT OF THINGS,
BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT HE IS DOING. 
          HE IS HONORING VICTIMS THAT THIS GROUP CREATED. 
          HE IS HONORING THE SAME VICTIM, CHARLIE KIRK,
THAT DID NOT DESERVE TO BE MURDERED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BY ANY PERSON FOR ANY REASON JUST BECAUSE THEY DID NOT LIKE HIS FREE SPEECH. 
          SO IF YOU WANT YOUR FREE SPEECH, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE A LITTLE GRACE TO SOMEONE ELSE'S
FREE SPEECH. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. NEXT SPEAKER CHRISTINE JUDKIS TRIPOLI. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COMMISSIONERS. I'M GOING TO KIND OF ECHO SOME OF WHAT DAN SAID WHEN
HE FIRST STARTED IT, BECAUSE YOU HAD A FORMER ELECTED OFFICIAL START THIS ROUND. 
          YOU CAN HAVE A FORMER ELECTED END THIS ROUND AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. 
          IT IS ABSOLUTELY SHAMEFUL TO PUT OUT A FLIER LIKE THIS THAT IS SO DIVISIVE. 
          YOU WERE ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. 
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YOU DON'T GET TO DECIDE. I ONLY WANT TO REPRESENT THOSE THAT BELIEVE THE EXACT SAME WAY I
DO. 
          THOSE THAT FOLLOW MY POLITICS. YOU HAVE A CONSTITUENCY OF OVER. 
          IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 160,000 RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY,
170,000. 
          HOWEVER, MANY IT IS NOT ALL OF THEM ARE MAGA,
RIGHT? NOT ALL OF THEM ARE EXTREME LEFT. I PERSONALLY CONSIDER MYSELF TO BE A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE
AND A SOCIAL DEMOCRAT. 
          YOU CAN BE BOTH. I'M ABOUT AS MIDDLE OF THE ROAD AS YOU CAN GET,
BUT WHEN I SAW THIS AND READ SOME OF THE HORRIFIC COMMENTS THAT WERE BEING PUT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA BY A SITTING ELECTED OFFICIAL ON THIS
BODY, IT WAS SHAMEFUL. THE MAYOR CONSTANTLY PRAISES THE GREAT CITY OF PALM BAY AND HOW
WONDERFULLY INCLUSIVE WE ARE, AND ONE OF YOUR COHORTS PUTS OUT CRAP LIKE THIS. 
          IS THAT THE WONDERFUL CITY OF PALM BAY THAT YOU WANT TO LIVE IN THAT SAYS,
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO YOU WANT TO SUPPORT CHARLIE KIRK. 
          GO FOR IT. PERSONALLY, I DIDN'T AGREE WITH 98% OF WHAT HE SAID,
BUT HE HAD THE RIGHT TO SAY IT. 
          YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT ABOUT MR. KIRK. BUT THE MINUTE YOU PUT COMMISSIONER NEXT TO YOUR NAME,
IT BECOMES A FUNCTION OF THE CITY. 
          HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH IN CITY FUNDS WERE HAVE BEEN EXPENDED FOR THIS MARCH ON SATURDAY? ARE WE HAVING TO PAY POLICE? DID WE HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY OF THE FLIERS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT
OUT? IF THIS WAS TAKEN OUT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS, YOU'RE IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW. 
          AND THIS IS THOROUGHLY DISGUSTING. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. LISA. PARKS. LISA. PARKS. 
          HELLO. EXCUSE ME. LISA PARKS. I LIVE AT 690 LOEFFLER CIRCLE. 
          AND CAN YOU SPEAK INTO THE MIC? MISS PARKS, THANK YOU. 
          WOW. THERE'S A LOT OF DIVISION GOING ON HERE. 
          I EVERYBODY UP HERE IS SAYING YOU, THEY AND WE AND I DON'T AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE. 
          CITY COUNCIL FOR ANYTHING PERSONAL LIKE THAT. 
          AND THIS MARCH IS JUST REPREHENSIBLE. YOU KNOW,
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A MARCH TO REPRESENT, TO HONOR VICTIMS OF VIOLENCE IN ALL CATEGORIES,
I'M FOR THAT. 
          WE CAN DO THAT. BUT NO, YOU KNOW PEOPLE UP HERE SAYING THAT CHARLIE KIRK WAS VERY DIVISIVE
AND THAT HE WAS ONLY EVIL. YOU PICKED CERTAIN THINGS TO SAY JUST OUT OF CONTEXT. 
          I COULD DO THAT ABOUT ANYTHING. ANYTHING YOU OTHER PEOPLE SAY. 
          AT THE SAME TIME HE DID HAVE THE RIGHT TO HIS. 
          BELIEFS AND TO STATE THEM. AND WE ALL HAVE THAT RIGHT. 
          BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT RESPECTFULLY AND KNOW THAT WE ALL HAVE TO BE TOGETHER. 
          SO I, I URGE EVERYONE TO STOP SAYING THEY AND WE,
YOU KNOW, I GOTTA EVERYBODY SAYS THEY KILLED CHARLIE KIRK. NO THEY DIDN'T. ONE INDIVIDUAL DID. 
          THEY SAID THEY KILLED THOSE PEOPLE IN MINNESOTA. 
          NO, AN INDIVIDUAL DID. YOU HAVE TO HOLD PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR DECISIONS AND HOLD
YOURSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURS. AND THEN IF EVERYBODY WOULD JUST BE RESPECTFUL AND TRY TO SHOW
THAT. 
          PALM BAY IS REALLY GOING TO BE THE CITY THAT WE ADVERTISE IT TO BE. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. THOMAS REDMOND. THAT'S IT. 
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GOOD EVENING. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS THOMAS REDMOND. 
          I LIVE AT 1867 SHANNON STREET NORTHWEST. I STAND BEFORE YOU AS SOMEBODY WHO DEEPLY LOVES OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'M COMMITTED TO OUR COMMUNITY AND TO
UNITY AND TO RESPECT. 
          AND AS A DEVOTED CHRISTIAN, I ALSO WANT TO EXPRESS HOW MUCH I ADMIRE AND RESPECT CHARLIE
KIRK AND HIS CHRISTIAN VALUES. 
          AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD WANT ME TO DEFEND THE VALUES HE STOOD FOR. 
          THIS IS MY PRIMARY MOTIVATION FOR BEING HERE TODAY. 
          I REMAIN PRIVATE AND OUT OF POLITICS. FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 
          BUT THE GRAVITY OF THIS ISSUE COMPELS ME TO SPEAK OUT TODAY,
EVEN THOUGH I RISK PUTTING MYSELF ON THE RADAR OF A MORE AUTHORITARIAN GROUP OF PEOPLE. I COME BEFORE YOU TO ADDRESS A MATTER THAT DEEPLY CONCERNS
ME. 
          A FLIER HAS BEEN CIRCULATED BY OUR FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBER,
CHANDLER LANGEVIN, TITLED MARCH FOR CHARLIE KIRK AND ALL VICTIMS OF LEFT WING EVIL. 
          THIS FLIER PROMOTES A MARCH THAT IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIVISIVE AND CONTRARY TO CHRISTIAN
VALUES OF LOVE, UNITY AND RESPECT FOR ALL. IN THE FLIER, IT STATES WILL GATHER AT CITY HALL AT 9:30 A.M. 
          AND READ THE NAMES OF ALL AMERICANS KILLED RECENTLY BY LEFT WING POLICIES,
AND PRAY FOR THE KIRK FAMILY. 
          NOTICE AND PRAY FOR THE KIRK FAMILY. THIS PHRASING UNFORTUNATELY PLACES THE KIRK FAMILY
SECOND AND DIMINISHES CHARLIE KIRK'S DEATH. IT MAKES IT PRETTY CLEAR THAT THIS IS PERSONALLY POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND NOT IN
THE BEST INTERESTS OF OUR CITY. 
          AS CHRISTIANS, WE ARE CALLED TO LOVE AND RESPECT ALL PEOPLE,
AND WE MUST ENSURE THAT OUR CITY REFLECTS THESE VALUES. 
          CHARLIE KIRK WOULD WANT THIS MATTER TO BE HANDLED CORRECTLY,
AND FOR US TO FOCUS ON UNITY, RATHER THAN DIVIDING PEOPLE INTO RIGHT WING OR LEFT WING CAMPS. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE SPEAKING TONIGHT IS OFF BASE. 
          I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR ONE REASON. I URGE THIS COUNCIL TONIGHT TO CENSURE COUNCILMAN
LANGEVIN. 
          NOT ONLY. TO SEND A MESSAGE OF UNITY, BUT TO GUARANTEE FUTURE GENERATIONS IN PALM BAY WILL NOT HAVE TO HAVE THIS HATEFUL SPEECH. 
          BY DOING SO, WE REINFORCE THE VALUES THAT WILL GUIDE US TOWARD A MORE UNITED AND
RESPECTFUL COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. THANK YOU MAYOR. I PREPARED A STATEMENT. 
          I WASN'T SURE WHAT ORDER YOU WANTED TO GO IN. IF COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN WANTED TO MAYBE CHIME
IN, OR SO I BELIEVE YOU. YOU BOUGHT THIS FORTH. I'LL START WITH YOU. 
          THEN I'LL HAVE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WEIGH IN. 
          THANK YOU. MAYOR. SO SEPTEMBER 10TH WAS A DEEPLY SAD DAY FOR ME AND I AND FOR OUR COUNTRY. 
          AN AMERICAN LOST HIS LIFE TO EVIL. AS A FATHER AND A HUSBAND,
MY HEART BREAKS FOR THE FAMILY LEFT BEHIND. 
          VIOLENCE AGAINST LIFE AND LIBERTY, I BELIEVE,
WEAKENS OUR NATION. 
          IT DOES NOT STRENGTHEN IT. AND WHAT WE FACE TODAY IS MORE THAN A POLITICAL DIVISION. 
          IT IS A STRUGGLE OVER THE VALUES THAT HOLD US TOGETHER. AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL,
I WOULD BE DISHONEST IF I SAID I NEVER WORRY ABOUT MY OWN SAFETY. 
          YET, DESPITE THOSE FEARS, I REMAIN COMMITTED TO SERVING PALM BAY WITH PRIDE AND RESOLVE. 
          LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN A CONSTANT IN MY LIFE AND BUSINESS AND FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICE. 
          AND NOW IT'S YOUR DEPUTY MAYOR. I'VE LEARNED THAT LEADERSHIP IS NOT ABOUT GIVING ORDERS. 
          IT'S ABOUT INSPIRING, GUIDING AND EMPOWERING OTHERS. 
          I AM A CONSERVATIVE, BUT I DO KNOW I SERVE ON A NONPARTIZAN COUNCIL AND I TAKE THAT
RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY. 
          I DID NOT STEP FORWARD TO SERVE, TO ENGAGE IN NATIONAL OR GLOBAL POLITICS. 
          I STEPPED FORWARD TO SERVE. PALM BAY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET,
GROW OUR ECONOMY AND IMPROVE OUR ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, AND PROVIDE FIRST CLASS POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES. 
          THAT IS THE WORK I BELIEVE OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT. 
          WE ARE NOT. ACTIVIST ACTIVISTS ADVOCATE FOR CAUSES. 
          ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE ENTRUSTED TO GOVERN, TO REPRESENT EVERYONE BALANCED NEEDS,
UPHOLD THE LAW AND MAKE PRACTICAL DECISIONS. 
          BLURRING THOSE LINES DIVIDES OUR COMMUNITY AND DISTRACTS FROM THE WORK PALM BAY NEEDS. 
          COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, LIKE ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS,
HAS A RIGHT UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO EXPRESS HIS VIEWS. 
          OTHERS ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESPECTFULLY DISENGAGE. 
          I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION AND OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. 
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YET JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T SAY SOMETHING DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN WE SHOULD. 
          WORDS CARRY WEIGHT AND WE HAVE A DUTY TO USE THEM THOUGHTFULLY. 
          OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE LEADERS WHO GOVERN WITHOUT DIVISION OR HATEFUL RHETORIC. CIVILITY IS
NOT WEAKNESS, IT IS STRENGTH. TONIGHT I ASK ALL OF US, INCLUDING MYSELF,
TO RECOMMIT TO THAT HIGHER STANDARD, TO MODEL RESPECT, EVEN IN DISAGREEMENT, AND TO WORK TO HEAL DIVISIONS RATHER THAN WIDEN
THEM. 
          I ALSO HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER SEEKS COUNCIL CONSENSUS BEFORE
SPONSORING EVENTS OR ADVERTISING EVENTS ON CITY PROPERTY. 
          THE SCHEDULED MARCH BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN APPEARS TO BE A CITY SANCTIONED EVENT. IT IS
NOT. 
          IT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THIS BOARD. I HAVE RECEIVED HUNDREDS OF EMAILS AND CALLS ABOUT THE
MARCH AND ALTHOUGH I DO NOT PARTICIPATE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I AM AWARE THAT IT IS ALIVE AND WELL. AND AND A LOT OF THE A LOT OF THE CALLS OF CONCERN
I'VE, I'VE RECEIVED ARE FROM CONSERVATIVES, CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES ALIKE HAVE EXPRESSED CONCERN
AND POTENTIAL INDUSTRY HAS QUESTIONED WHETHER PALM BAY IS A SAFE PLACE TO INVEST. 
          PALM BAY IS GROWING DIVERSE AND FULL OF PROMISE. 
          IT DESERVES LEADERS WHO REFLECT ITS BEST QUALITIES,
JUST TO NAME A FEW INTEGRITY, EMPATHY, KINDNESS, CONSISTENCY AND STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO A BETTER FUTURE. 
          TO MY COLLEAGUES, I CHALLENGE YOU TO BE THAT LEADER FOR PALM BAY. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. ALL RIGHT. WELL, OBVIOUSLY, I DISAGREE WITH YOU,
DEPUTY MAYOR ON A LOT OF THINGS. AND QUITE FRANKLY I WAS ELECTED. 
          I RAN ON WHAT? I RAN ON, I RAN ON CONSERVATIVE VALUES. 
          I DIDN'T I WASN'T A DISHONEST ABOUT THAT AT ALL. 
          THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME ARTICLES ABOUT THERE THAT MADE IT VERY CLEAR. 
          EXACTLY WHO I AM. SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY EXAGGERATED. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS, IS I HAVE A TITLE. AND IF I WANT TO LEAD IN THE COMMUNITY SORT OF LIKE
HOW IN 2020, HUNDREDS OF COUNCILMAN AROUND THE COUNTRY DECIDED TO HOLD RALLIES AND GO TO RALLIES AND
PARTICIPATE IN RALLIES, THEN, YES, THE RALLY ITSELF WILL NOT COME ON TO THE CITY PROPERTY. 
          IT WILL REMAIN ON THE SIDEWALK. WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH STAFF. 
          SO YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND TELL A STORY. OKAY. AND
FOR ANYONE OUT THERE THAT MAY HAVE KIDS WATCHING, THERE MAY BE SOME PARTS OF THE STORY THAT ARE NOT SUPER APPROPRIATE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, BE ADVISED WHEN I WAS 24, I WAS A YOUNG MAN. 
          I WAS SERVING IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, AND I WAS DEPLOYED TO AFGHANISTAN. 
          WHEN WE LANDED ON THE TARMAC, THE FIRST BRIEF THAT WE GOT WAS OUR RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
BRIEF. 
          MIND YOU, THIS WAS OCTOBER. I THINK IT WAS ON MY BIRTHDAY,
OCTOBER 2ND, 2016, IF YOU REMEMBER. 
          WHAT? WHAT YEAR THAT WAS. THAT WAS A MONTH BEFORE THE ELECTION FOR TRUMP WON 2016. 
          WE WERE TOLD BY THE JAG ATTORNEY, THERE'S AN ELECTION GOING ON,
SO WE CAN'T LET YOU DO X, Y, AND Z. AND THE POLICY COMING DOWN FROM THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION IS ACTUALLY THAT EVEN
IF YOU GET ENGAGED, HE DOESN'T WANT THE THE OPTICS OF ANYTHING BAD HAPPENING OR ANY POSSIBLE CIVILIAN
CASUALTIES IN IT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION. 
          SO WE NEED YOU TO JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT DO YOUR JOB AND COME BACK. 
          THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT THE JAG ATTORNEY TOLD US IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR ZONE. 
          WELL, RIGHT BEFORE I GOT THERE, FIVE AIRMEN WERE BLOWN UP BY A MOTORCYCLE BOMBER BECAUSE
OF THE POLICIES OF THAT ADMINISTRATION. 
          SHORTLY AFTERWARDS, I WAS SITTING IN MY BARRACKS WHEN A SUICIDE BOMBER BLEW HIMSELF UP ON
THE BASE BECAUSE THE SAME POLICIES FROM THE SAME ADMINISTRATION ALLOWED A THOUSAND AFGHAN NATIONALS UNVETTED ONTO OUR BASE AND KILLED FIVE AMERICANS. 
          AND AFTER 16 HOURS OF DEALING WITH THAT AND HAVING TO GET THEM ALL OFF THE BASE AND
DEALING WITH OTHER BOMBERS THAT ENDED UP NOT DETONATING, WE WERE STARVING. WE FINALLY GOT TO GO TO CHOW AND I GOT TO WALK INTO THE CHOW HALL. 
          BUT AS I WAS DOING THAT, IT WAS THE SAME CHOW HALL THAT HE BLEW HIMSELF UP AFTER AND I HAD
TO WALK OVER THE CHARRED SKIN OF THE SUICIDE BOMBER AND THE OTHERS BECAUSE OF POLICY. AFTER THAT, I NEEDED A BREAK. SO I TRANSFERRED TO THE RESERVES,
AND I ENDED UP TAKING A GAP YEAR SO THAT I COULD GO STUDY LEFT WING EVIL. 
          AND YES, THERE IS OTHER TYPES OF EVIL IN THE WORLD,
BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY LEFT WING EVIL IN THE WORLD. 
          AND LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT IT, BECAUSE I WENT AND STUDIED IT. I DON'T TALK ABOUT IT A LOT,
BUT MAYBE I SHOULD. I WENT TO COUNTRIES AROUND THE WORLD, 4 OR 5 OF THEM THAT SUFFERED IN THE PAST OR CURRENTLY UNDER INCREDIBLE LEFT WING EVIL. 
          I WENT TO CAMBODIA WHEN I WAS IN CAMBODIA. I WENT TO THE KILLING FIELDS,
WHERE LEFT WING EVIL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING 20% OF AN ENTIRE COUNTRY'S POPULATION. AND WHEN I WAS STANDING IN THE KILLING FIELDS,
I RUBBED MY HAND AGAINST A PALM TREE THAT STILL HAD A LOT. 
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THEY PUT THESE LITTLE BRAIDS ON THEM AS MEMORIALS BECAUSE THEY WERE KILLING SO MANY
PEOPLE. 
          THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE AMMUNITION IN THEIR GUNS TO SHOOT PEOPLE,
SO THEY BASH THE HEADS OF BABIES ACROSS A PALM TREE. 
          YES, THAT'S A THAT WAS A MARXIST GOVERNMENT. AND THAT IS WHAT ULTIMATELY LEFT WING EVIL
LEADS TO. 
          IT HAPPENED IN CAMBODIA. IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN FIRST,
WHICH IS WHAT LED TO ALL THE CHAOS AND TURMOIL IN AFGHANISTAN. 
          IT HAPPENED ACROSS AFRICA. IT HAPPENED IN EUROPE. 
          IT'S NOT BASED OFF COLOR OR SOME OTHER THING,
AS PEOPLE MENTIONED IN THE CROWD. 
          IT'S AFFECTED COUNTRIES OF EVERY COLOR. THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN MAKESHIFT RAFTS
FROM CUBA, BUT I DON'T SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE GOING TO CUBA IN BOATS. 
          I WONDER WHY THAT IS. IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR STARVATION ACROSS THE WORLD. 
          ESTIMATED APPROXIMATELY 300 MILLION PEOPLE IN LESS THAN A CENTURY. 
          HAVE BEEN KILLED BY LEFT WING EVIL. AND IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES,
THE SAME FORMULA TAKES PLACE. 
          THE SAME FORMULA STARTS OUT. IT STARTS OUT WITH A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEY START
SAYING THESE CRAZY THINGS AND EVERYBODY AROUND THEM GOES, WELL, THEY'RE JUST A SMALL GROUP OF CRAZY PEOPLE. 
          BUT THEN THOSE PEOPLE TAKE OVER THE INSTITUTIONS,
THEY TAKE OVER THE SCHOOLS, THEY TARGET IT. 
          THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB OF IT. THEY TAKE OVER THE PROFESSORSHIPS. 
          THEY START INDOCTRINATING THE NEXT GENERATION OF INDIVIDUALS,
OF STUDENTS. 
          THEN THEY SEND THOSE STUDENTS BACK HOME, AND THOSE STUDENTS REBEL AGAINST THEIR PARENTS
AND SAY, WHY? WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN THIS? WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ANY EMPATHY? THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER THING. AND THEN WHEN THE OTHER SIDE STARTS FIGHTING BACK,
AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY START GAINING ANY TRACTION, THEN IT LEADS TO VIOLENCE AND THEN IT STARTS HAVING POLITICAL ASSASSINATIONS,
WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. 
          THERE WASN'T ONE POLITICAL ASSASSINATION. THERE WAS ONE SUCCESSFUL. 
          THERE WAS TWO ATTEMPTS ON THE PRESIDENT'S LIFE. 
          THE THIRD FINALLY MADE CONTACT. BUT LET'S ALSO LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER LEFT WING
MILITIAS THAT HAVE DONE SO. 
          SOME OF THOSE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT WERE DONE BY THEM. 
          THEY AMBUSHED AN ICE OFFICE RECENTLY IN OUR COUNTRY. 
          SO NOW WE'RE TO THE STAGE AND ALL THESE COUNTRIES THAT I VISITED TO,
AND I READ THE HISTORIES AND I WENT TO THEIR COMMUNISM MUSEUMS AND EVERY ONE OF THESE COUNTRIES. AND I TALKED TO PEOPLE WHO LIVED THROUGH IT,
THE SAME EXACT FORMULA THAT HAPPENED IN EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE COUNTRIES, FROM POL POT TO THE SPANISH CIVIL WAR TO THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION IN RUSSIA. 
          EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM STARTED THE SAME WAY. 
          AND WE ENTERED A POINT THE OTHER DAY, A NEW PHASE IN THIS EVIL IDEOLOGIES MOVEMENT TO TRY
TO TAKE OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 
          AND I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THEIR POLICIES HERE,
LIKE THE ONES THAT GOT MY BROTHERS KILLED AND THERE'S SO MANY EXAMPLES THAT YOU'VE HEARD OF, LIKE ABBEY GATE, LIKE BENGHAZI, LIKE EXTORTION 17 BUT THERE'S DOZENS AND DOZENS THAT
YOU HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD OF. 
          YOU ONLY HEARD OF THE ONES THAT GO VIRAL, THE ONE THAT THE FIVE THAT DIED ON BAGRAM IN
FRONT OF ME. 
          THERE WAS A SNIPPET IN THE NEWS THAT BARELY WAS EVEN RECORDED IN THE MILITARY TIMES. 
          BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE OTHER POLICIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES,
SOFT ON CRIME POLICIES. 
          THE MAN WHO MURDERED IRINA ZARETSKA HAD BEEN IN JAIL 12 OR 14 TIMES. 
          ICE ARRESTED A GUY THE OTHER DAY WHO HAD BEEN ARRESTED IN THE UNITED STATES 48 TIMES. 
          HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO BE ARRESTED 12 TO 14 TIMES ON VIOLENT CRIMES,
AND THEN GET LET BACK OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND MURDER SOMEBODY NEEDLESSLY? LAKE AND RILEY WAS A RESULT OF A POROUS OPEN BORDER THAT LED TO MILLIONS OF UNCHECKED
UNVETTED IMMIGRANTS. 
          AND OKAY, LET'S LOOK AT OTHER EXAMPLES SINCE WE WANT TO TAKE COLOR OUT OF IT. 
          THERE WAS JUST AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT THAT CAME THROUGH THE SOUTHERN BORDER THAT BEHEADED AN
INDIAN AMERICAN IN TEXAS. 
          WE HAD ANOTHER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT THAT WAS GIVEN A DRIVER'S LICENSE IN CALIFORNIA. 
          EVEN THOUGH HE CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH AND CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE ROAD SIGNS,
AND HE KILLED THREE FLORIDIANS. 
          THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES THAT HAPPENED WITHIN WEEKS OF WHAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS BAD
POLICIES. 
          BUT THEN WHEN YOU ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND HISTORY AND YOU LOOK AT HOW ALL THESE OTHER
COUNTRIES IN THE FORMULA THAT WAS USED IN THOSE, YOU REALIZE THESE AREN'T BAD POLICIES, BECAUSE IF IT WAS A BAD POLICY AND IT HAPPENED ONCE OR TWICE,
THEN THEY WOULD GO, WOW, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF A BAD POLICY. IT'S A FAILING POLICY. 
          LET'S CORRECT IT. LET'S MOVE IT AROUND. WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT,
IT'S NOT BAD POLICIES. 
          IT IS A FORCE OF EVIL IN OUR COUNTRY THAT IS TRYING TO DISRUPT AND INFUSE CHAOS AND DO ALL
THE SAME THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN ALL THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES TO DENIGRATE OUR HEROES AND OUR FOUNDING FATHERS,
TO BREAK DOWN THE THREAD THAT MAKES AMERICA WHAT IT IS. 
          BECAUSE YOU CAN'T CHANGE AMERICA. IF IT'S GOOD,
NOBODY'S GOING TO WANT TO CHANGE. 
          SO ALL THESE THINGS, AND ALL THIS DIVISION AND CHAOS THAT'S SOWN BY THESE LEFT WING
POLICIES ARE DONE ON PURPOSE TO BREAK THE COUNTRY DOWN SO THAT THEY CAN EVENTUALLY REBUILD IT IN THE IN THE UTOPIAN WAY THAT THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO
DO IT. 
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BUT IN EVERY EXAMPLE OF HISTORY SHOWS US THAT ALL THAT LEADS TO IS STARVATION,
DEATH, MORE CHAOS. 
          THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE SUCCESSFUL COMMUNIST COUNTRY,
THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE SUCCESSFUL SOCIALIST COUNTRY. 
          AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GO, WELL, I'M NOT REALLY A COMMUNIST. 
          A LOT OF YOU PROBABLY THINK YOU'RE NOT COMMUNIST OR THAT YOU'RE NOT SOCIALIST,
BUT YOU'RE SUPPORTING AN IDEOLOGY THAT IS BEING DRIVEN BY PEOPLE THAT ARE. 
          AND FOR 20 YEARS, 20 YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY 20 YEARS AGO,
I WAS IN SCHOOL LIKE 15, 16 YEARS AGO, COMING OUT OF SCHOOL, I WAS A STANDARD AMERICAN YOUNG MAN THAT JUST WANTED TO BE LEFT
ALONE. 
          I BELIEVED IN THE CONSTITUTION. I, LIKE THE FOUNDING FATHERS,
THOUGHT THAT WAS COOL, AND THAT'S WHY I VOTED FOR THE SIDE THAT I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, RESPECT THAT THE MOST. AND I WAS ABSOLUTE. 
          FOR THE PAST 15, 16 YEARS, I HAVE BEEN EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          PEOPLE SAY IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, YOU'RE TERRIBLE. 
          YOU'RE A NAZI, YOU'RE A NAZI. YOU'RE THIS, YOU'RE THAT. 
          IT'S ON THE NEWS. IT'S IN MEDIA. IT'S SHOVED DOWN OUR THROAT. 
          PROFESSORS, I'VE HEARD PROFESSORS SAY TERRIBLE THINGS,
AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE WANT TO. 
          I'VE HAD HIGH SCHOOL TEACHERS. I HAD A HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER THAT WOULD SAY THESE THINGS.
THIS HAS BEEN SPEWED INTO THE INTO THE MINDS OF OUR YOUTH FOR SO LONG, AND WE NEVER SAY ANYTHING BACK BECAUSE AS CONSERVATIVES,
WE'RE TAUGHT WE'RE WE ARE WE'RE GOOD CHRISTIAN PEOPLE, AND WE'RE TAUGHT THAT IN CHRIST WE JUST FORGIVE AND FORGET. 
          WE DON'T WANT CONFRONTATION. TURN, TURN AND JUST LET IT GO AND LET'S MOVE ON. 
          BUT FOR HOW MANY YEARS DO WE DO THAT? AND AT WHAT STAGE OF THIS EQUATION DO WE AS
CHRISTIANS SAY, YES, WE CAN PRAY FOR YOU AND I DO PRAY FOR YOU. 
          AND I ACTUALLY PRAY FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN HERE. 
          BUT AT WHAT POINT DO WE SAY EVIL DOES EXIST IN THE WORLD? THERE WERE WARRIORS IN THE BIBLE. YOU CAN'T BE A CHRISTIAN AND AND BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU
BELIEVE IN WITHOUT ALSO BELIEVING THAT EVIL EXISTS IN THE WORLD. 
          AND SO HOW DO YOU STAND UP TO THAT EVIL AS WELL? AND SO I DON'T KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS,
BUT WHEN CHARLIE KIRK WAS KILLED, THIS IS EXACTLY THIS WAS PUT ON MY HEART IMMEDIATELY. 
          AND I RAN WITH IT. I DIDN'T HAVE THE LOGISTICS WORKED OUT. 
          I DIDN'T HAVE THE PLAN WORKED OUT. IT FELL ON MY HEART. 
          AND I SAID, WE'RE DOING IT. AND I'VE GOT AN OUTPOURING OF SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY AND
WE'RE GOING TO MARCH. 
          AND I DO THINK IT'S FUNNY THAT THERE'S PEOPLE HERE YELLING AT ME THAT WERE AT THE NO.
KING'S MARCH, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT SCENARIO. SO QUITE FRANKLY,
GENTLEMEN, WHETHER YOU WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT, I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING. IF YOU'RE MAD AT ME,
BE MAD AT ME. 
          IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, YOU KNOW, I GET IT. RESPECTFULLY. 
          IT'S OKAY. YOU CAN BUT IF GOD PUTS SOMETHING ON MY HEART,
I'M GOING TO RUN WITH IT. 
          AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S GOING TO BE. SO THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. YEAH,
I HAD SOMETHING WRITTEN, BUT I THINK DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE KIND OF HIT IT ON THE HEAD. WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS,
TONIGHT, WE'RE NOT MAKING A VOTE TO LET THIS HAPPEN. 
          THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE CAN APPROVE OR DENY. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE. 
          WE ARE FIVE SEPARATE ENTITIES. WE ARE COWORKERS UP HERE. 
          YOU GUYS ARE THE BOSSES. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT I MEAN,
I'M GOING TO TELL YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW, SINCE THE MINUTE THAT I'VE MET CHANDLER LANGEVIN,
HE IS HE PROBABLY HAS THE MOST CONVICTION IN HOW HE FEELS THAN ANYBODY I'VE EVER MET. 
          SO WHAT? THIS ISN'T SOMETHING NEW. THIS IS. THIS IS HIS FEELINGS HE'S FELT SINCE THE DAY
HE WAS ELECTED. 
          SINCE. SINCE BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED. PLEASE. BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS,
IS. 
          WE ARE SEPARATE UP HERE. HE IS. HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS VOICE. 
          HE IS ENTITLED TO TO WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY WITH,
WITH HIS WORLD AROUND HIM. 
          THIS IS A PART TIME JOB. HE DIDN'T MENTION ME. 
          HE DIDN'T MENTION THIS COUNCIL. HE DIDN'T MENTION US BEING INVOLVED IN ANY WAY,
SHAPE OR FORM. 
          THIS IS. THIS IS SOMETHING HE'S DOING ON HIS OWN. 
          HE IS. HE IS SOLID IN HIS CONVICTIONS. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT. 
          US UP HERE NEED TO ACCEPT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY LOVES. ME,
MYSELF, I, I AM A LEADER FOR EVERYBODY OUT THERE. 
          WHETHER YOU VOTED FOR ME OR NOT, I AM GOING TO BACK EVERY SINGLE PERSON UP,
WHETHER I AGREE WITH YOU OR I DON'T. 
          I HAVE SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS THAT ARE ON THE ON THE OTHER SIDE,
I AM. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE CONVICTIONS OF THAT I AM. I USE MY HEART ON EVERYTHING AND I WILL ALWAYS
USE MY HEART ON EVERYTHING. 
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HOW I FEEL OUTSIDE OF HERE AND AND HOW I FEEL AS AS A COUNCILMAN MIGHT BE TWO DIFFERENT
THINGS, BUT MY TIME HERE UP ON COUNCIL, I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF MY BOSSES. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M SMILING BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH THAT CAN BE SAID,
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M MINDFUL OF THE TIME SO WE DON'T HAVE TO CONTINUE THE MEETING. 
          BUT IT'S NOT JUST OUR NATION, BUT THIS WHOLE WORLD IS AN IDENTITY CRISIS. 
          LIKE THERE IS NO SIDE. THERE IS NO WING. LIKE EVEN THE TERM RACISM,
LIKE THERE'S ONLY THE HUMAN RACE. 
          AND WE ALLOW ALL THESE DOGMAS AND WE FIND COMFORT IN TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING TO IDENTIFY
WITH. 
          I KNOW MYSELF, I TRY TO FIND COMFORT IN IDENTIFYING IN FRATERNITIES OR COMFORT IN
IDENTIFYING WITH THIS GROUP OR THAT GROUP. 
          BUT IT'S AN IDENTITY CRISIS, AND IT'S IT'S DEEPLY ROOTED INTO. 
          I WANT TO SPEAK TO YOU, COUNCILMAN, BECAUSE THERE'S AREAS I DO AGREE WITH YOU. 
          THERE IS EVIL, BUT EVIL DOESN'T HAVE A COLOR. 
          THAT'S LIKE SAYING I SPEAK BLACK. LIKE, NO, LIKE I SPEAK ENGLISH. 
          THAT'S ALL THERE IS. LIKE THERE IS NO LEFT OR RIGHT TO EVIL. 
          EVIL IS EVIL. AND FOR MY CHRISTIAN POPULATION,
EPHESIANS 612, IT DOESN'T SAY LEFT PRINCIPALITIES OR RIGHT PRINCIPALITIES. 
          IT SAYS PRINCIPALITIES, RULERS AND AUTHORITIES. 
          THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T SAY, I'M GOING TO GO TOWARDS THEM. 
          I'M GOING TO GO TOWARDS THEM. LIKE, NO, LIKE THAT'S WHEN WE COME INTO AGREEMENT WITH SIN. 
          IT'S AS SIMPLE AS I GO HOME, I HAVE A ROUGH DAY AND I'M TAKING IT OUT ON THE FAMILY AND MY
WIFE CAN HAVE. 
          SHE HAS A MOMENT. SHE CAN EITHER MEET ME WHERE I AM WITH HATE OR WITH ANGER,
OR SHE CAN RESTORE ME WITH LOVE. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS TRYING TO SPEAK ON,
RESTORING EVERYBODY WITH LOVE. 
          IF YOU DON'T RESTORE WITH DIVISIVE RHETORIC OR DIVISIVE SPEECH,
YOU RESTORE WITH LOVE. 
          AND HOW CAN WE RESTORE WITH LOVE? IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BE WITH PREACHING THE GOSPEL. 
          YOU CAN SHOW THE GOSPEL AND SHOWING THE GOSPEL IS SHOWING LOVE. 
          HEY, LET ME SHARE WITH YOU WHY I HAVE THIS BELIEF SYSTEM. 
          LET ME SHARE WITH YOU WHY I FEEL THIS WAY ABOUT MY IDEOLOGY. 
          I WENT TO A TAPESTRY NETWORK MEETING AND AT FIRST I WASN'T ACCEPTED BY IT. 
          IT WAS RAN BY PASTOR PAUL ROSEBERRY AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID THEY WORKED CLOSELY WITH
TURNING POINT USA. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID WAS WE HAVE TO LOVE THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE. 
          AND WITH LOVING THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE, THAT'S NOT LOOKING AT THEM AS EVIL OR LOOKING AT
COUNCILMAN AS RACIST OR EVIL OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, BUT RECOGNIZING SAYING WHATEVER'S ON THEM, YOU HAVE TO LOVE THAT OFF OF THEM. 
          YOU. IT'S NOT THEM. WHEN WE COME INTO AGREEMENT,
IT'S LIKE IT REMINDS ME. 
          AND I KNOW EVERYBODY CAN RELATE WITH THIS. BEAR WITH ME. 
          WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CARTOONS BACK IN THE DAY,
THEY HAD THE DEVIL ON ONE SIDE. 
          THEY HAD THE ANGEL OR GOD ON THE OTHER, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE AGREE WITH. 
          AND WHAT WE COME INTO TERMS WITH IS WHAT WE'RE ACKNOWLEDGING. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT'S HOW SIN WORKS. THAT'S HOW IT,
YOU KNOW, I CAN BE LOOKING AT MY WIFE AND SHE'S GONE OFF ON ME, AND I CAN BE LOOKING AT HER AND I OVER HERE SAY,
HEY, SAY SOMETHING BACK, SPEAK. 
          SPEAK BACK. AND THE OTHER SIDE IS LIKE, NAH,
HOLD YOUR TONGUE. 
          JUST HEAR HER HEART AND JUST LET HER SPEAK AND SHOW. 
          SHOW HER COMFORT. WOMEN WANT SECURITY, SHOW HER COMFORT. 
          SO I CAN COME INTO AGREEMENT WITH EITHER ONE. AND THAT'S HOW IT IS. THAT'S HOW. THAT'S HOW
THESE PRINCIPALITIES WORK AS WELL. 
          AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP OF GOVERNING,
TO THE BOTTOM. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. WHEN I THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH CHARLIE
KIRK. 
          WE CAN COME INTO AGREEMENT WITH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING,
OR WE CAN SAY, HEY, I AGREE WITH THIS PORTION, BUT I DON'T AGREE. I DISAGREE WITH THIS PORTION. 
          WE'RE FINE. WE'RE FREE THINKERS. WE'RE MEANT WE'RE NOT MEANT TO JUST IDENTIFY WITH
EVERYTHING ON THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OR DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR ON THIS COUNCIL. 
          LIKE I'M BEST FRIENDS WITH SOME OF THE GUYS UP HERE,
AND WE DISAGREE ALL THE TIME. 
          THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. WHEN YOU LOOK INTO THE BIBLE,
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE BIBLE BELIEVERS LIKE MYSELF, JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS ASSASSINATED. JESUS DIDN'T GO OUT MARCHING. 
          HE WENT TO SOLITUDE. AND THEN AFTER HE WENT TO IT'S IN MATTHEW,
SO YOU CAN JUST CHECK IT OUT. 
          AFTER HE WENT TO SOLITUDE, CROWDS FOLLOWED AFTER HIM AND HE WAS FILLED WITH COMPASSION AND
HE HEALED THEM. 
          HE HEALED WITH LOVE. LOVE CONQUERS ALL. WE FORGIVE. 
          WE'RE MEANT TO CONSISTENTLY FORGIVE. HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THESE PEOPLE. 
          COUNCILMAN IN THE SAME WAY YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH ME,
YOU AND I HAVE SAT DOWN SEVERAL TIMES. 
          DISAGREEING ON SOME THINGS. AGREEING ON OTHER THINGS. 
          BUT WE SAT DOWN. THAT'S HOW YOU MAKE. I SEE DANIEL COSTA IN THE BACK. 
          I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A SHOUT OUT, SIR. YOU CAME OUT AND THERE'S SO MANY TIMES WE DISAGREED
ON STUFF, BUT WE STILL CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION. THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
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LIKE, THAT'S WHY I KNOW COVID WAS ABOUT PRINCIPALITIES BECAUSE IT CAUSED SO MUCH CONFUSION
AND DIVISIVENESS AMONGST OUR NATION. 
          WE WERE WE WERE SO UNITED WHEN IT CAME TO NINE OVER 11,
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT IT CAME TO THAT. 
          BUT WE WERE SO UNITED. THERE WAS NO RED OR BLUE. 
          THERE WAS RED, WHITE AND BLUE. WE ALL BLEED RED. 
          AND THAT'S ALL IT COMES DOWN TO. SO, MAYOR, I KNOW YOU'RE YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT FROM
HERE, BUT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. 
          DON'T LOOK AT IT AS LEFT, LEFT WING EVIL, RIGHT WING EVIL,
EVIL, EVIL. 
          THERE'S A REASON WHY THE EPSTEIN LIST HASN'T BEEN RELEASED. IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NAMES ON
THERE FOR EVERYBODY. SO WE CAN'T TRY TO SAY, OH, NO, THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SO I'M OPEN TO TALK TO ANYBODY. 
          YOU KNOW, I IT'S IT'S PUBLIC RECORD. I CHANGED FROM DEMOCRAT TO NONPARTISAN BECAUSE I
DON'T WANT TO IDENTIFY WITH ANYTHING BUT CHRIST AND JUST MY BELIEF. 
          BUT I'M ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE I SHARE LOVE WITH EVERYBODY IN THIS AUDIENCE AND EVERYBODY
OUTSIDE OF THIS AUDIENCE. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LONG WINDED. 
          THIS HAS BEEN ON MY HEART SINCE I SAW THAT WRETCHED VIDEO OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM,
AND THAT THAT WASN'T FOR POLITICAL BELIEFS. 
          THAT WAS TO SILENCE HIM. AND THAT WAS THAT WAS SPIRITUAL WARFARE,
IS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. 
          THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT WAS. SO I'M I'M DONE. 
          MAYOR. I'M OFF MY SOAPBOX. I LOVE ALL OF YOU. 
          DANIEL ACOSTA I LOVE YOU, BROTHER. BILL BENNETT I LOVE YOU,
PASTOR. 
          ALL OF Y'ALL, I LOVE Y'ALL. LISTEN, LANCE FISHER,
I LOVE YOU. 
          MICHAEL, I LOVE YOU. I WILL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH Y'ALL. 
          YEP. I'LL. I WILL TALK WITH YOU AFTER, TOO, SIR. 
          I'LL SHOW YOU. BECAUSE. BECAUSE LOVE IS AN ACTION VERB. 
          SO I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU TOO, SIR. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. I'M DONE. THERE YOU GO. WELL. THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR KIND WORDS,
BUT I WANT TO TAKE THIS BACK, AND THIS IS THIS IS ABOUT LIFTING UP THE KIRK FAMILY. 
          THIS IS ABOUT. PRAYING FOR THE KIRK FAMILY. IS IS THE WAY I SEE IT. 
          I JUST WANT TO PRAY OVER THAT FAMILY RIGHT NOW. 
          OUR WORDS HAVE POWER, AND SOMETIMES WE MISCOMMUNICATE WITH WHAT WE SAY. 
          PERHAPS THINGS SHOULD BE SAID IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT. 
          BUT GOING TO YOUR POINT, IT IS A SPIRITUAL WARFARE. 
          AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I WENT INTO THE ARCHIVES AND MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT CHARLIE
KIRK THAT HAVE BEEN MISREPRESENTED. 
          MR. KIRK WAS A BELIEVER AND A BROTHER IN CHRIST. 
          AND SO. Q THAT THAT VIDEO SO THAT WE CAN JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE SAID IN AN INTERVIEW. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. I WONDER IF BY CONTINUING TO LIE,
THEY AREN'T ABOUT EVERYTHING. 
          THEY'RE DRIVING ALL OF US A LITTLE CRAZY. WELL,
THIS IS WHY YOUR FAITH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 
          BECAUSE FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE CHRISTIANS,
IT DOESN'T DRIVE YOU CRAZY. 
          YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON, WHICH IS THAT WE DO NOT WRESTLE AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD, BUT AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES AND DARKNESS AND SPIRITS. 
          THAT THERE IS A SPIRITUAL WAR HERE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          TUCKER, I FIND PEOPLE IN THIS SPACE THAT ARE NOT ANCHORED TO FAITH,
ANCHORED TO JESUS. 
          THEY DO LOSE THEIR MIND BECAUSE THERE IS NO RATIONAL OR REASONABLE EXPLANATION FOR WHAT
THE COUNTRY IS DOING TO ITSELF OR WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING. BUT IF YOU THEN SEE AND YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A GOD,
AND WE ARE NOT HIM, THAT THERE IS AN ENTIRE DIMENSION OF ANGELS AND DEMONS AND SPIRITS THAT ARE CONSTANTLY
STRUGGLING, STRUGGLING AROUND US, AND THAT THERE IS A SUPERNATURAL DIMENSION,
AS YOU MENTIONED. 
          ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT DOES THEN MAKE SENSE. THAT DOES IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY RATIONAL SENSE
TO SHUT DOWN YOUR SCHOOLS SO YOU COULD SACRIFICE THE KIDS SO THE ELDERLY CAN LIVE. THAT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. 
          IT MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER TO KEEP YOUR MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES OPEN AND YOUR ALCOHOL
SHOPS OPEN. 
          BUT THE CHURCH NONESSENTIAL. ONLY A DEMONIC ENTERPRISE WOULD DO SUCH A THING. 
          ONLY A DEMONIC ENTERPRISE WOULD SAY THAT EASTER AND PENTECOST ARE NON-ESSENTIAL,
BUT RACE RIOTING AND BURNING DOWN A WENDY'S IS A CENTRAL ACTIVITY. AND TUCKER, YOU TALK ABOUT THIS A LOT. 
          FOR THOSE OF US THAT KNOW THE TRUTH, WE KNOW THAT OUR GOD IS A GOD OF ORDER AND
DISTINCTION. 
          WHAT IS THE FIRST THING THAT GOD DID IN THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES? IT SAYS. WELL, AND ALSO OUR SCRIPTURE IN THE ORIGINAL GENESIS,
BERESHITH, WHICH IS IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. 
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AND THEN HE SEPARATED, AND HE MADE SENSE. HE MADE ORDER OUT OF CHAOS. 
          OUR GOD IS A GOD OF ORDER, AND ORDER ONLY COMES WITH DISTINCTIONS,
AND DISTINCTIONS ARE NECESSARY. 
          THINK ABOUT ALL THE DISTINCTIONS THAT GOD SET UP IN THE FIRST SIX BOOKS OF GENESIS THAT
ARE CURRENTLY UNDER ATTACK. 
          THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE, THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MAN AND NATURE. 
          THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE HOLY AND THE PROFANE. 
          THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOOD AND EVIL. THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN INFANT AND ADULT. 
          THESE DISTINCTIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WHAT WESTERN CIVILIZATION WERE BUILT UPON,
BUT IT IS SATAN'S GOAL TO BLUR AND EVENTUALLY DESTROY THOSE DISTINCTIONS, BECAUSE THOSE DISTINCTIONS OF WHICH WE GET ORDER AND YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT ORDER,
THEN YOU HAVE THE CLOSEST THING TO SATANIC CHAOS HERE. 
          THANK YOU. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CLIP IN THE ARCHIVES. 
          IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S A SPIRITUAL WARFARE. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN,
YOUR WORDS HAVE POWER. 
          AND I TRULY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU COULD AWARD IT THIS DIFFERENTLY,
I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY THAT EVIL IS EVIL, TO CATEGORIZE IT AS JUST PLAIN EVIL. AND I CAN TELL YOU THIS,
THAT AS SOMEONE THAT BEHAVES CHRIST LIKE THAT WANTS TO FOLLOW CHRIST, WE CAN ALWAYS READ DIFFERENT BOOKS AND LEARN FROM OUR EXPERIENCE
AND READ AND GET GARNER KNOWLEDGE. SO I'VE READ MANY BOOKS AND THERE'S A BOOK THAT'S CALLED EZEKIEL. 
          AND IN THAT BOOK IT SAYS THAT SURELY AS I LIVE,
SAYS THE SOVEREIGN LORD, I TAKE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF WICKED PEOPLE. 
          THAT'S GOD HIMSELF SAYING HE TAKES NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF WICKED PEOPLE. 
          I ONLY WANT THEM TO TURN FROM THEIR WICKED WAYS SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE. 
          AND HE GOES ON AND HE SAYS, TURN. THE BOOK OF JOHN SAYS,
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONE AND ONLY SON NOT TO CONDEMN THE WORLD, BUT TO SAVE THE WORLD. 
          YOU SEE, GOD IS ALL ABOUT LOVE. AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CHRIST LIKE,
WE SHOULD BE STRONG IN OUR FAITH. WE NEED TO PUT ON HIS ARMOR. AND THAT ARMOR IS LOVE FOR WHEN NOT FIGHTING
AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD ENEMIES, BUT AGAINST EVIL RULERS AND AUTHORITIES IN THE UNSEEN WORLD,
AGAINST MIGHTY POWERS IN THIS DARK WORLD, AND AGAINST EVIL SPIRITS IN HEAVENLY PLACES? HE GOES ON AND HE SAYS TO IMITATE GOD
THEREFORE IN EVERYTHING YOU DO, BECAUSE YOU ARE HIS CHILDREN. 
          LIVE A LIFE FILLED WITH LOVE, FOLLOWING THE EXAMPLE OF CHRIST. 
          HE LOVED US AND OFFERED HIMSELF AS A SACRIFICE FOR US. 
          SO YOU SEE, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT IS CONTRARY YOU SATISFYING YOUR WORDS THAT MAKE YOU
FEEL THAT IT IS POWERFUL IN A SENSE OF CONDEMNING OTHERS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FIGHTING
AGAINST. 
          SO I SAY, LET THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE YOUR LIVES. 
          THEN YOU WON'T BE DOING IT WITH WHAT YOUR SINFUL NATURE CRAVES. 
          YOUR SINFUL NATURE WANTS TO DO EVIL, WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE SPIRIT WANTS,
AND THAT IS WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. 
          THE TWO FORCES ARE CONSTANTLY GOING AGAINST EACH OTHER. 
          AND SO WHAT IS YOUR SINFUL NATURE? WELL, LET ME BREAK THAT DOWN TO YOU. 
          IT'S SEXUAL IMMORALITY. IT'S IMPURITY, IT'S LUSTFUL PLEASURES. 
          IT'S SORCERY, HOSTILITY, QUARRELING, JEALOUSY,
CREATING STRIFE, SELFISH AMBITIONS, DISSENSION, AND MOREOVER, DIVISION. AND IT GOES INTO DRUNKENNESS. 
          AND. BUT THE SPIRIT PRODUCES LOVE, JOY, PEACE,
PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITHFULNESS, GENTLENESS, AND SELF CONTROL. 
          THERE'S NO LAW AGAINST THESE. THOSE WHO BELONG TO CHRIST JESUS HAVE NAILED THE PASSIONS
AND DESIRES OF THEIR SINFUL NATION, TO THE OF THEIR NATURE, TO THE CROSS, AND CRUCIFIED THEM THERE. 
          SINCE WE ARE LIVING BY THE SPIRIT, LET US FOLLOW THE SPIRIT'S LEADING IN EVERY PART OF OUR
LIVES. 
          I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF WE DO FOLLOW CHRIST,
WE'RE TO IMITATE HIM. 
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WE'RE TO LIVE A LIFE FULL OF LOVE, FOLLOWING HIS EXAMPLE. 
          HE LOVED US AND OFFERED HIMSELF AS A SACRIFICE. 
          SO I ENCOURAGE YOU, I IMPLORE OF YOU, TO FIGHT THE FLESH,
AND LET THE SPIRIT AND YOUR WORDS TAILORED TO LOVE THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          BE KIND. BE GENTLE. BE LOVING. REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. 
          AND IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CHRIST LIKE OR BE CATEGORIZED AS A CHRISTIAN,
THAT'S A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY. 
          THAT RESPONSIBILITY GOES WITH YOUR SPEECH. AND I SPEAK TO EVERYONE BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHOOSE
WHAT GOD WANTS YOU TO DO. HE SAYS, PRAY FOR YOUR ENEMIES. YOU CAN'T CHOOSE WHO TO PRAY FOR. 
          IF YOU'RE GOING TO WEAR A TITLE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DECLARE THAT THE LORD IS YOUR GOD,
THEN YOU SURRENDER ALL ASPECTS OF YOUR LIFE TO INCLUDE YOUR FLESH. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID,
I DO AGREE THAT WE NEED TO WATCH WHAT WE SAY AND UNDERSTAND THAT OUR WORDS ARE NOT ONLY POWERFUL,
BUT THEY HAVE CONSEQUENCES AND THEY CAN CREATE LOVE AND PROSPERITY, OR THEY CAN DIVIDE A COMMUNITY. 
          THAT BEING SAID, HAD YOU SAID AND AND PROMOTED THIS AS. 
          LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRAYER VIGIL FOR THE KIRK FAMILY,
AND WE'RE GOING TO GATHER AND AND WALK FROM WALMART ONTO THE SIDEWALK OF CITY HALL. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER TEXT. 
          THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MEETING. BUT THE WAY YOU DEMONSTRATED IT,
BROTHER, I, I GOTTA TELL YOU, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I DON'T AGREE. THREE. I THANK DEPUTY MAYOR FOR BRINGING THIS OUT BECAUSE
I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS AT LARGE, ARE FIGHTING OVER THIS. SO WHEN YOU DO HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION AND YOUR PRAYER,
TALK ABOUT THE LOVE. 
          TALK ABOUT WHAT JESUS SAID IN THAT THEY WILL KNOW THAT YOU'RE MY DISCIPLES BY HOW YOU LOVE
ONE ANOTHER. AND I END WITH THAT. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANTED TO CLOSE WITH,
DEPUTY MAYOR? NO, MAYOR. OKAY. SO WE'VE HANDLED NUMBER THREE. 
          WE'RE NOW. 
          WE'RE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS NUMBER ONE. AM I TRACKING THAT? OH, AS YOU WERE. WE'RE ON PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          [PUBLIC COMMENTS/RESPONSES:]
DONALD HOOK. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCIL. DOUG HOOK, MARIPOSA DRIVE,
NORTHEAST PALM BAY. 
          AS A LITTLE BIT OF A CHANGE OF PACE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR ACTIONS. 
          LAST MEETING ON VOTING FOR THE PUBLIC BROADCASTING TO BE OPEN OR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE
BROADCAST AGAIN. 
          IT'S VITAL THAT OPEN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE PEOPLE AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVES BE
PROTECTED. 
          AS ANOTHER CHANGE OF PACE, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION THAT MAY NOT BE KNOWN
REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF NATIVE PLANTS. 
          AROUND 90% OF PLANT EATING BUGS ARE CONSIDERED SPECIALISTS,
WHICH MEANS THAT THEY EAT ONLY ONE FAMILY OF PLANT OR IN SOME CASES, ONLY ONE SPECIFIC PLANT. PERIOD. SINCE FLORIDA'S SPECIALIST BUGS GREW UP AROUND FLORIDA
NATIVE PLANTS, THAT MEANS MOST OF THEM HAVE SPECIALIZED ON NATIVE PLANTS. 
          NATIVE PLANTS SUPPORT AROUND 35 TIMES THE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF INSECTS THAT NON-NATIVES DO. 
          BECAUSE OF THAT, WHEN WE PLANT NON-NATIVE PLANTS,
WE ARE ACTUALLY LOWERING THE AMOUNT OF BUGS AVAILABLE FOR OUR FAVORITE BIRD SEED. 
          IT'S BEEN SHOWN THAT THE BIGGEST FACTOR TO THE NUMBER OF BIRDS IN THE AREA IS ACTUALLY THE
NUMBER, THE AMOUNT OF FOOD AVAILABLE. SO BY PLANTING NATIVE PLANTS,
WE CAN ACTUALLY SUPPORT A LARGER NUMBER OF NATIVE BIRDS, WHICH IN TURN SUPPORT A LARGER NUMBER ARE SUPPORTING THAT SUPPORT A LARGE NUMBER OF NATIVE
BUGS, WHICH IN TURN SUPPORT A LARGE NUMBER OF NATIVE BIRDS. 
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THIS IS RELEVANT TONIGHT, CONSIDERING THERE WERE A NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS THAT AFFECT OUR
CURRENTLY WILD SPACES IN PALM BAY. 
          ON THE TABLE WERE PROPOSALS TO DEVELOP OVER 350 50 ACRES OF UNDEVELOPED LAND,
AND ADDITIONAL PROPOSALS TO REZONE PUBLIC LANDS THAT ARE ALSO CURRENTLY WILD SPACES. 
          YOU'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE CONSTITUENTS TONIGHT HOW IMPORTANT THOSE UNDEVELOPED SPACES
ACTUALLY ARE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AS YOU PONDER THE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT AND WILL BE COMING BACK ONTO THE
AGENDA IN THE FUTURE, I SINCERELY ASK THAT YOU NOT JUST CONSIDER THE POSSIBLE ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF THESE
REDEVELOPMENT ACTS, BUT TO ALSO CONSIDER THE ECONOMIC DOWNFALLS THAT COME WITH THEM. 
          IT IS EASIER TO CONSERVE WHAT NATURAL SPACES WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN PLACE,
THAN IT IS TO ATTEMPT TO RESTORE THEM IN THE FUTURE. 
          GIVEN THAT NATIVE PLANT LANDSCAPING IS ONLY JUST BEGINNING TO BE POPULAR,
THE LIKELIHOOD OF WILD SPACES POTENTIALLY LOST FROM DECISIONS MADE IN THESE CHAMBERS ARE QUICKLY OFFSET BY ARE NOT GOING TO BE QUICKLY OFFSET BY ACTIONS FROM THE PART OF THE
COMMUNITY. 
          OUR PLANTS, BUGS, AND BIRDS THAT MAKE FLORIDA GREAT RELY ON US,
US AND OUR LEADERSHIP TO LOOK OUT FOR THEM, AND THIS COUNCIL HAS OPPORTUNITIES TO DO SO WHEN THESE ITEMS RETURN TO THE AGENDA. 
          IN CLOSING, I WANT TO AGAIN THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THEIR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF BOTH IN
PROTECTING OUR IMPORTANT NATURAL SPACES. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK DEPUTY MAYOR JARVI IN SPECIFIC FOR SUPPORTING MY APPLICATION
FOR THE PALM BAY SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ANY FELLOW PALM BAY CITIZENS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NEXT
WEEK'S SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD MEETING RIGHT HERE IN THIS CHAMBER NEXT THURSDAY AT 6 P.M.. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BILL BACKER. 
          BILL BATTEN, 586 OCEAN SPRAY STREET, SOUTHWEST. 
          I'VE GOT SIX ITEMS TO ADDRESS. NUMBER ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY CITY COUNCIL FOR RE
SENDING THEIR DECISION ON NOT BROADCASTING PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          NUMBER TWO, THIS ACTION WILL HELP IN PROMOTING TRANSPARENCY AND TRUST IN MY LOCAL
GOVERNMENT. 
          NUMBER THREE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF THAT DECISION COULD HAVE BEEN MADE BECAUSE THAT'S
WHAT WE AS THE CONSTITUENTS WANTED. 
          NUMBER FOUR NOW, IF WE COULD GET THE PUBLIC COMMENTS BACK AT THE END OF THE MEETING,
THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC. 
          NUMBER FIVE. SO ONE MORE TIME. THANK YOU. THIS IS THE TYPE OF ACTION EVEN CHARLIE CRIST
COULD BE COULD BE PROUD OF. COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY TO TRANSPARENCY. 
          NOW DIFFERENT TOPIC. YOU REARRANGED TONIGHT'S AGENDA SO I COULD NOT HAVE ASKED YOU TO
SPEAK ON A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM BEFORE YOU VOTED ON IT AND CLEARED IT. 
          JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THE CHICKEN BEFORE THE EGG OR THE EGG BEFORE
THE CHICKEN. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          LANCE FISHER. 
          LANCE FISHER. ADDRESS. LAST COUNCIL MEETING. CHIEF SPEARS EMBARRASSES COUNCIL AND THE CITY
MANAGER. 
          CHIEF SPEARS STATEMENTS AT THE PODIUM HIGHLIGHTED HIS LACK OF EXPERIENCE AND INCOMPETENCE
IN HIS POSITION FOR FAILING TO MEET WITH SERGEANT FRANK. 
          FAMILY. HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE PUBLIC,
THOUGH THE CITY'S OWN WEBSITE INVITES THE PUBLIC TO THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND PROVIDES WEBSITES FOR VIEWING. YET IT WAS ON THE AGENDA AND DISCUSSED AT THE AUGUST 21ST COUNCIL
MEETING. 
          IT WAS POSTED ON THE SEPTEMBER 4TH AGENDA FOR THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          MOST SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS AND ALL COMMAND STAFF KNOW THAT THESE ARE PUBLIC COMMAND OR
CHIEF. 
          SPEIRS ALSO COULDN'T ANSWER A SIMPLE QUESTION REGARDING A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT WAS
SUBMITTED IN JULY. 
          AND MAYOR, WHEN YOU SENT HIM OUTSIDE TO SPEAK TO THE FAMILY. TAMARA HATCHER CHIEF SPEIRS
DIDN'T HAVE THE FORTITUDE OR INTEGRITY TO TELL THEM THE PD HAS ALREADY JUSTIFIED THE ABUSE SHE ENDURED WHILE HANDCUFFED. IT'S NOT JEFF SPEIRS FAULT. 
          FIVE YEARS AGO, HE WAS A SERGEANT. HE LACKS THE EXPERIENCE OF BEING A DEPUTY CHIEF,
LET ALONE A CHIEF CITY MANAGER. 
          YOU LISTED THE TRAINING AS PART OF HIS TRAINING AS PART OF THE REASON FOR APPOINTING THE
CHIEF. 
          SPECIFICALLY HIS ATTENDANCE TO THE FBI NATIONAL ACADEMY. 
          SCHOOLS ARE JUST WORDS ON A PIECE OF PAPER, AND DON'T TELL THE STORY. 
          THE CHIEF DEPUTY IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WAS FIRED FOR ALLEGEDLY CHEATING ON HIS FBI
COURSEWORK. 
          CITY MANAGER, YOU MENTIONED THAT CHIEF SPEIRS WAS ENDORSED BY THE FOP. HERE'S A TEXT
MESSAGE BETWEEN ME AND THE FMB PRESIDENT ON APRIL 9TH, IN WHICH THE FOP PRESIDENT INDICATED IT MAY BE TIME FOR A FRESH OUTSIDE CHIEF. 
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WHEN MARIO IS DONE, I'M SURE HE HE DOESN'T HAVE MUCH LONGER. 
          SO JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, EVEN THE FOP PRESIDENT SUGGESTED AN OUTSIDE CHIEF WOULD BE A
GOOD GOOD FOR THE AGENCY. 
          SO WHAT CHANGED? WELL, HE WAS INVESTIGATED FOR SEX ON DUTY AND SENDING INAPPROPRIATE
PICTURES ON DUTY DISMISSABLE OFFENSES. 
          CITY MANAGER, I PROVIDE YOU TWO ANONYMOUS LETTERS THAT I RECEIVED IN MY MAILBOX. 
          INDICATED NO OFFICERS OR BOARD MEMBERS WERE EVER ASKED ABOUT ANY ENDORSEMENT. 
          IT WAS ALLEGED THAT HIS ENDORSEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT WAS STRONG ARMED TO SAVE HIS JOB FOR
ALLEGATIONS OF SEX ON DUTY AND INAPPROPRIATE PICTURES. 
          HE LOST 30 VACATION HOURS, NOT EVEN A SUSPENSION. 
          FDLE CLASSIFIES FDLE CLASSIFIES NUDE PICTURES ON DUTY AS A MORAL CHARACTER VIOLATION AND A
SERIOUS OFFENSE, WHICH COULD LEAD TO THE REVOCATION OF THE OFFICER'S LAW ENFORCEMENT CERTIFICATE. 
          THE DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRED TO NOTIFY FDLE WHEN SO THAT THEY THEN CAN ADMINISTER THEIR OWN
DISCIPLINE. 
          DID THEY? POLICE DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT FLORIDA HAVE TERMINATED EMPLOYEES FOR SUCH
OFFENSES. 
          REMEMBER, DURING CHIEF OF JEALOUS TENURE, A POLICE OFFICER WAS ARRESTED FOR SEX ON DUTY
WITH A 13 YEAR OLD. 
          ANOTHER WAS INVESTIGATED FOR SEXUAL ASSAULT BY FDLE AND WAS AND A THIRD WAS INVESTIGATED
BY BCSO. 
          WHEN THESE TYPES OF HEADLINES WITH THESE TYPES OF HEADLINES,
THE CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF SHOULD DO EVERYTHING TO PREVENT THESE INCIDENTS FROM TERMINATING, INCLUDING TERMINATING POLICE OFFICERS. 
          THERE ARE JUST TOO MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THE NEED TO APPOINT CHIEF SPEARS.
NINE MONTHS, NINE MONTHS BEFORE CHIEF ANGELOS RETIREMENT. 
          THERE MUST BE CHANGE WITHIN THE PD LEADERSHIP,
AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE FROM A NATIONWIDE SEARCH FROM AN OUTSIDE CHIEF THAT DOES NOT HAVE THE INTERNAL LOYALTY THAT PLAGUES THIS CITY. 
          THANK YOU MR. MORTON. YEAH. WE CAN. YEAH. MR. FISHER, CAN WE BRING THAT? WE NEED SOME ANSWERS AND SOME TRANSPARENCY. 
          SO, CHIEF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND GIVE US SOME ANSWERS? I THINK WE HAVE SOME
INSTEAD OF SNIPPETS. 
          AND I'VE GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON DISCIPLINE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
          I'VE GOT A REPORT FROM THE SEC FROM JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR ACROSS THE STATE. 
          NO FEWER THAN 95 AGENCIES ON 95 PAGES OF DISCIPLINARY HAVE HAD OFFICER DISCIPLINE. 
          SO TRYING TO PAINT THIS PICTURE THAT SOMEHOW,
YOU KNOW, A POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE OF DISCIPLINARY ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT TONIGHT IS OUT OF CHARACTER OR UNUSUAL OR SOME
INDICATION THAT THERE IS AN INCOMPETENCE OR LEADERSHIP IS NOT THE TRUTH. 
          AND CHIEF, WILL YOU RESPOND TO THE INSTANCES BROUGHT UP TONIGHT BY MR. FISHER? ABSOLUTELY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE TIME TO SPEAK FOR A FEW MINUTES TO GET SOME CLARITY AND SOME FACTUAL CONTENT BASED ON THE HEADLINERS THAT WERE IN THIS PRESENTATION TO
PROMOTE A PERSONAL AGENDA. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE REGARDING LET'S START WITH DEPUTY CHIEF SPEARS WITH,
REGARDING MISS TOBER AND OUR INITIATIVE AS A CITY TO NAME A STRUCTURE AFTER THE LATE SERGEANT FRANK TOBER. 
          CONVERSATION WENT WELL WITH MISS WITH MISS TOBER. 
          DEPUTY CHIEF SPEER SPOKE WITH HIM. WITH HER. SHE UNDERSTOOD WHY THINGS WERE ON HOLD IN
TERMS OF ANNOUNCING IT TO HER FOR THOSE REASONS, TO NOT GET ANYBODY'S HOPES UP HIGH. NO INTENT WAS THERE,
NO ILL INTENT WAS THERE. 
          SHE COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD AND WAS GRATEFUL AND IS FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE INITIATIVE
SHOULD IT HAPPEN. 
          SO WITH REGARDS TO THE THREE OFFICERS THAT WERE MENTIONED ON THIS POWERPOINT SLIDE,
BUT MISTER LANCE FISHER. 
          SO THE FIRST ONE, YES, LEAVE WAS TAKEN FROM THAT PERSON. 
          THAT PERSON WAS ALSO DEMOTED FROM SUPERVISOR TO THE RANK OF OFFICER. 
          LEAVE TAKING PERSONAL TIME OFF LEAVE OF FROM AN INDIVIDUAL,
FROM AN EMPLOYEE, FROM AN OFFICER IS CONSIDERED A FORM OF SUSPENSION. 
          IT'S A LEGAL TERM. NOW, WITH ALL OF THAT, IN TERMS OF PUTTING OUT OTHER RESPONSES AND
OTHER AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THROUGHOUT FLORIDA, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY,
IN TERMS OF WHAT FDLE PROMOTES IN TERMS OF UP TO COULD BE THOSE ARE THE KEY WORDS RIGHT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE ATTENTION PAY ATTENTION TO IN TERMS OF WHAT'S BEING PUT OUT THERE
TO SPREAD DIVISIVENESS AND HATE AGAINST OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          SO THAT INCIDENT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. THE INCIDENT WITH MR. ARCHER IN TERMS OF SEX WITH A CHILD, A JUVENILE ON DUTY,
FULLY INVESTIGATED. 
          WE CAME UP, WE CAME UPON THE INFORMATION. I NOTIFIED THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT. 
          THEY RESPONDED IMMEDIATELY. THEY CONDUCTED A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. 
          THEY HAD CHARGES ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE TO ARREST THIS INDIVIDUAL FOR SAID CRIME. 
          HE WAS ARRESTED AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IN FRONT OF HIS PEERS AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER
TERMINATED FROM EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF PALM BAY. 
          THEREFORE, EVEN MORE, I NOTIFIED THE COMMISSION OF THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT REQUESTING THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL'S CERTIFICATION TO BE A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA BE REVOKED PERMANENTLY,
AND A SHORT TIME AGO I WAS NOTIFIED BY THE COMMISSION. 
          THEY DID JUST THAT. SO THAT INDIVIDUAL CAN NO LONGER BE A COP HERE IN THE STATE OF
FLORIDA. 
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WE MOVE ON TO THE THIRD EXAMPLE THAT MR. FISHER PROVIDED. 
          THAT INDIVIDUAL, JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE, GOT AN ALLEGATION OR COMPLAINT THAT WAS AGAINST
HIM. 
          EVERY AMERICAN, IT WAS STATED EARLIER, IS DUE IS OWED DUE PROCESS. 
          RIGHT. BASED ON A COMPLAINT OR AN ALLEGATION. 
          WE RECEIVED IT. FDLE WORKED WITH IT. THEY CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATION TO SEE WHERE IT WENT, PUT ALL THE FACTS TOGETHER, PRESENTED IT TO THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THE STATE
ATTORNEY CAME BACK WITH A DECISION, NOT ENOUGH FACTS OR CIRCUMSTANCES TO PURSUE THE OFFENSE THAT WAS LISTED. CASE WAS CLOSED. WE CONDUCTED AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION AFTER
THAT INVESTIGATION TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY MORAL CONDUCT ISSUES OR ANY OTHER POLICY VIOLATIONS. THERE WAS NONE. DURING THAT WHOLE PROCESS,
THAT OFFICER WAS SUSPENDED. 
          DURING THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WHICH TOOK SEVERAL MONTHS,
THAT OFFICER WAS REINSTATED BACK TO FULL DUTY. 
          LET ME ADD THIS. TEN MONTHS LATER, JANUARY 28TH,
2024. 
          THAT OFFICER WAS ONE OF TWO OF OUR OFFICERS. HE COULD HAVE BEEN UPSET. 
          HE COULD HAVE BEEN DISGRUNTLED BECAUSE AN ALLEGATION WAS MADE AGAINST HIM,
BUT HE WASN'T. 
          THAT OFFICER TOOK A BULLET FOR MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT DAY FROM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT
HOURS EARLIER KILLED TWO OTHER PEOPLE, AND THEN A THIRD AFTER SHOOTING OUR OFFICERS THAT DAY UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO FINALLY GET A
HOLD OF THAT INDIVIDUAL AND TAKE HIM AWAY. 
          SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, THERE WAS SO MUCH OF IT BEING SPOKEN EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT
HATE, DIVISIVENESS, RHETORIC. WHAT WE HAVE HERE HAS BEEN A YEAR AND A HALF WORTH OF DANGEROUS
RHETORIC, DANGEROUS RHETORIC TOWARDS THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DON THIS UNIFORM THAT SAYS PALM BAY
POLICE BY ONE INDIVIDUAL FOR A PERSONAL AGENDA. 
          NOW EARLIER THIS WEEK, WE HAD AN OFFICER OFF DUTY ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY FROM US,
OFF DUTY FROM A DIFFERENT POLICE DEPARTMENT, MURDERED IN A CONVENIENCE STORE WHILE PURCHASING SOMETHING AT THE COUNTER. 
          SHOT IN THE BACK 24 TIMES BECAUSE OF HATE. YESTERDAY,
THREE OFFICERS IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA MURDERED TWO OTHERS CRITICALLY WOUNDED BECAUSE OF HATE AND DIVISIVENESS THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL,
LANCE FISHER, A FORMER COP THAT HE CLAIMS TO BE RIGHT. IS ATTACKING OUR MEN AND WOMEN EVERY DAY TO DIVIDE OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE MEN
AND WOMEN THAT SUPPORT THEM AND HAVE BEEN SERVING THEM FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE,
AND LONGER. 
          THAT IS THE CULTURE THAT THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS HERE WITH OUR RESIDENTS HERE
IN PALM BAY, AND I WILL NOT STAND. AND I DENOUNCE THIS HATE THAT HE'S BEEN SPEWING FOR A YEAR AND A
HALF, I DENOUNCE IT. THIS DANGEROUS RHETORIC THAT JEOPARDIZES THE LIVES OF OUR OFFICERS EVERY
DAY, ON TOP OF THE DANGERS THAT THEY DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS WITH THE JOB. 
          IT'S UNNECESSARY. ALL TO PROMOTE HIS PERSONAL AGENDA,
TO SPREAD DIVISIVENESS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          OUR COMMUNITY IS MORE UNITED WITH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAN EVER BEFORE. 
          HOW DO I KNOW? BECAUSE I BREAK BREAD WITH OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS IN THE CITY. 
          I COMMUNICATE WITH THEM REGULARLY. I DENOUNCE IT. 
          I REBUKED IT IN THE NAME OF MY LORD AND SAVIOR. 
          BECAUSE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY BE SAFE IS THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DON THIS
UNIFORM. 
          I SWORE IN FOR OFFICERS TODAY FOR MORE OFFICERS BRAND NEW TO PROTECT AND SERVE THIS
COMMUNITY. 
          AND THEY WILL. THEY WILL PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE FOR THOSE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO
THEY ARE. 
          AND FOR THOSE THAT DESPISE THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ARRESTED,
GUESS WHAT? IF IT'S IN THAT POSITION, THEY WILL RISK THEIR LIFE FOR THEM AS WELL,
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. 
          THAT'S THE OATH THAT THEY TAKE. AND WHAT WE'VE TAKEN. 
          SO PERSONAL AGENDAS ASIDE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. 
          I'M NOT GOING TO TOLERATE IT ANYMORE WHEN IT JEOPARDIZES THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT DO THIS
EVERY DAY TO PROTECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US IN THIS ROOM AND IN OUR CITY. 
          THAT IS ALL. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PAT DALPRA. 
          SO CAN I. CAN WE PAUSE FOR A QUICK SECOND? YES. 
          SO I WAS ASKED NEW I'M NEW. RIGHT. COME IN. AS AN OUTSIDER,
ASKED TO LOOK IN A LOT OF THINGS. 
          AND WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN LOOKING, AS YOU GUYS KNOW,
AS A COMMUNITY KNOWS AND EVERYTHING. 
          THING. I'VE SPENT AN EARNEST FOUR MONTHS LOOKING AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I CAN'T
TAKE ANYTHING FOR GRANTED. 
          I'VE MET WITH MR. FISHER. I'VE GOTTEN NOTHING BUT ANONYMOUS LETTERS. 
          I'VE GOTTEN NOTHING BUT. OH, IT'S ANONYMOUS. IT'S A DEAD END. 
          IT'S A SNAPSHOT. I HEAR WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET ACCREDITED BECAUSE THE DEPARTMENT'S SO
HORRIBLE. 
          SO I GO MEET WITH THE ACCREDITATION BOARD RECOMMENDED FOR FULL RE-ACCREDITATION AT THE
HIGHEST TIER IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA. 
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SO, YOU KNOW, RUNNING DOWN THESE LEADS TO ANSWER THE QUESTION,
YOU DIDN'T STAY FOR THE RESPONSE. I'VE I'VE LOOKED I'VE SPENT TIME, NOT THE FIRST ONE. WE'VE TALKED TO FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          WE'VE TALKED TO THE STATE GOVERNMENT. WE'VE TALKED TO DIFFERENT AGENCIES. I DON'T KNOW
WHERE THESE ACCUSATIONS ARE COMING FROM. TO DATE. I FIND NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER IN THE ACCUSATIONS THAT GET SPOKEN HERE AT THE DAIS. 
          AND WE'RE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING. I'VE DONE THE HEAVY LIFTING OF LOOKING INTO IT. 
          SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE AS YOUR CITY MANAGER,
MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY BELIEF IN THE CHIEF AND THE DEPUTY CHIEF AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT STANDS AS IT IS, WE HAVE A CREDIBLE SOLID AGENCY. 
          YES, WE'VE HAD ISSUES LIKE ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT,
EVERY OTHER ORGANIZATION THAT HAS BEEN APPROPRIATELY DEALT WITH AND HAVE CONTINUED TO BE APPROPRIATELY DEALT WITH. AND I HAVE GREAT HOPE FOR THE STRUCTURE,
THE TRAINING AND THE COMMITMENT OF OUR OFFICERS AT THE PALM BAY POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER PAT DOBRA. 
          PAT DAPPER, 410 GEORGE'S AVENUE. ON A LIGHTER NOTE,
REMINDER THAT THIS IS CONSTITUTION MONTH AND YESTERDAY, THE 17TH WAS CONSTITUTION DAY. WE HAVE THE MOST AMAZING,
INCREDIBLY LONGEST LASTING CONSTITUTION IN THE WORLD. 
          THE AVERAGE CONSTITUTION LASTS ABOUT 17 YEARS. 
          IT WAS FOUNDED ON JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES. 
          THE FOUNDERS WERE RAISED AND TRAINED, TRAINED IN SCRIPTURE. 
          SURE THEY STUDIED AND QUOTED IT IN THEIR OWN WRITINGS OVER 40% OF THE TIME. 
          34% OF THE CONSTITUTION IS FROM THE BIBLE. THERE ARE THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF QUOTES
AND DECISIONS FROM FOUNDERS, STATESMEN, PRESIDENTS, JUDGES, LEGISLATURE, GOVERNORS,
SUPREME COURT CONFIRMING THAT THIS COUNTRY, OUR AMERICA, IS A CHRISTIAN NATION. BUT IN LIEU OF WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK,
I GIVE YOU THIS PARTIAL QUOTE FROM RABBI DAVID LAPIN. 
          WITHOUT A VIBRANT AND VITAL CHRISTIAN CHRISTIANITY,
AMERICA IS DOOMED. 
          AND WITHOUT AMERICA, THE WEST IS DOOMED. WHICH IS WHY I AND ORTHODOX JEWISH RABBI DEVOTED
TO JEWISH SURVIVAL, THE TORAH AND ISRAEL AM SO TERRIFIED OF AMERICAN CHRISTIANITY CAVING IN. 
          CHARLIE KIRK LOVED THIS NATION. HE WANTED TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. 
          CHARLIE WAS AN EXAMPLE OF COMMITMENT, BOLDNESS,
AND FEARLESS LOVE FOR CHRIST AND HIS CAUSE. 
          HE SPOKE TRUTH UNASHAMEDLY. HE WASN'T AFRAID TO STEP INTO THE PUBLIC SQUARE,
TO CONTEND FOR THAT TRUTH WITH COURAGE AND CONVICTION, AND TO REMIND US THAT THE IDEAS WE HOLD MATTER. 
          CHARLIE LOVED OR LIVED UNDER THE PRINCIPLE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO SPEAK. 
          THAT EVERYONE HAS A VOICE, WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT. 
          AND THAT'S FROM THE FIRST AMENDMENT. HE LOVED THOSE,
EVEN THE ONES THAT DISAGREED WITH HIM. 
          IN JOHN 1224, JESUS SPOKE. HE SAID, I TELL YOU THE TRUTH,
UNLESS A GRAIN OF WHEAT FALLS INTO THE EARTH AND DIES, IT REMAINS ALONE OR ONLY A SINGLE SEED, BUT IF IT DIES,
IT BEARS MUCH FRUIT. 
          IT PRODUCES MANY SEEDS. AND A REMINDER THAT THE JAPANESE COMMANDER IN WORLD WAR TWO WHO
ATTACKED US IN PEARL HARBOR. I'M SURE YOU GUYS REMEMBER. OR MAYBE YOU DON'T. 
          HE SAID, I FEAR WE HAVE AWAKENED THE SLEEPING GIANT. 
          ERIKA KIRK MENTIONED THE SAME THING. SHE SAID THE PERSON WHO DID THAT FEAR. 
          WE FEAR OR HE FEARS THAT HE'S WAKING UP SLEEPING GIANT. 
          MONIQUE MILLER MENTIONED THAT SHE DID. SHE WROTE A ON TRUTH. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROGRAM IT WAS. IT SAYS AS LIKE MANY TRUTH TELLERS IN HISTORY,
MARTIN LUTHER KING JR WAS ASSASSINATED AND THE ROARING VOICE OF A MARTYR WAS UNLEASHED. THANK YOU. SAME THING HERE. MARC MILLER. 
          I'M SORRY. STIFFENING UP OVER HERE. MARK MILLER 898 NELSON AVENUE. ROUTE DEFINITION OF GOVERNMENT IS THE SYSTEM AND PROCESS BY WHICH WE DO BUSINESS
AS A PEOPLE. 
          THE POLITICS ROOT ROOT CAUSE DEFINITION IS A BELIEF SYSTEM OR THE IDEOLOGY THAT WE HAVE
THAT DRIVES HOW WE BELIEVE OUR GOVERNMENT OR OUR SYSTEM SHOULD OPERATE. SO AS CHRISTIANS,
WE OPERATE OR SHOULD OPERATE BY BELIEF SYSTEM THAT'S ROOTED IN THE WORD OF GOD. 
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AND WHILE NONE OF US ARE PERFECT AT IT. RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE OUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS ROOTED IN THE WORD OF GOD AND WE'RE INFLUENCING GOVERNMENT,
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP THE CHURCH OUT OF THE STATE. 
          IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. PEOPLE VOTE FOR CANDIDATES WHO ALIGN WITH THEIR VALUES. 
          I VOTE FOR FOLKS WHO ALIGN WITH MY VALUES, AND MY EXPECTATION IS IF THEY WIN,
THAT THEY WILL INFLUENCE AND OPERATE THE SYSTEM BY WHICH WE DO BUSINESS AS A PEOPLE TO BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH MY BELIEFS,
WHICH ARE BIBLICAL AND BASE, RIGHT? I DON'T ELECT YOU TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. I LET YOU TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY
AND SERVE IN THAT ROLE. 
          IF YOU MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, MAN, WE WATER IT ALL DOWN AND WE JUST LOSE IT ALL. 
          IT DOESN'T WORK. YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY. 
          I BELIEVE IN THE IMPORTANCE OF STRONG BIBLICAL FAMILIES AS DEFINED BY THE WORD. 
          I BELIEVE IN STRONG BIBLICAL MORAL VALUES AND AGAINST ABORTION AND SOCIALISM AND SHARIA
LAW AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          I'M AGAINST CONDONING A LIFE OF PURPOSEFUL SINFULNESS,
RIGHT? AND I BELIEVE FULLY THAT BLESSED IS THE NATION WHOSE GOD IS LORD. 
          SO FOR THOSE WHO SHARE THOSE VALUES THAT ARE ELECTED IN THE POSITION,
I EXPECT THEM TO UPHOLD THOSE VALUES, WHETHER IT MAKES EVERYBODY HAPPY OR NOT. AND LIKEWISE,
IF SOMEONE GETS ELECTED WHO'S OPPOSED TO MY VALUES, THEN I'LL FALL BACK TO FIRST TIMOTHY CHAPTER TWO,
WHERE WE ARE TO PRAY FOR OUR KINGS AND ALL OF THOSE IN AUTHORITY, WHETHER WE AGREE WITH THEM OR NOT, THAT WE MAY LIVE A PEACEFUL AND QUIET LIFE IN ALL
GODLINESS AND HOLINESS. 
          AND I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT UNITY ONLY WORKS WHEN CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIANS ARE YIELDING
TO THEIR BELIEFS. 
          OTHERWISE, IT'S LABELED AS HATE SPEECH. JESUS DID LOVE EVERYONE,
BUT HE SAID, GO AND SIN NO MORE. 
          THE BIBLICAL DEFINITION OF LOVE IS NOT ACCEPTANCE OF EVERYTHING,
AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT AS A PASTOR, I DON'T GET TO PICK AND CHOOSE. GOD WROTE THE WORD OF GOD. 
          HE PROVIDED IT TO ME. THERE'S STUFF IN THERE I DON'T LIKE. 
          THERE'S STUFF IN THERE I MAY NOT AGREE WITH IN MY FLESH,
BUT BECAUSE OF MY LOVE FOR MY CONGREGATION AND ANYBODY THAT ATTENDS OUR CHURCH, WE SPEAK FROM THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH,
WHETHER IT'S WELL RECEIVED OR NOT, BECAUSE IT'S GOD'S WORD HE CREATED. AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW. 
          AND I EXPECT THAT TO BE SO. THANK YOU FOR BROADCASTING THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          I PRAY SOMEBODY HEARS IT TODAY AND I'M WITH BILL. 
          PUT THE THREE MINUTES BACK AT THE END. GOD BLESS YOU. 
          VIRGINIA CZARNOWSKI. JENNY OR VIRGINIA CZARNOWSKI. 
          KRISTEN LANSANAH. 
          GOOD EVENING. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. 
          KRISTEN LANSANAH, NORTHWEST PALM BAY I SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY LEFT TWO HOURS AGO. 
          IT'S WAY PAST MY BEDTIME, BUT I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A RESIDENT,
A TAXPAYER, AND A PARENT WHO IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAVE OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE THE COUNCIL. I UNDERSTAND A COUPLE OF THEM HAVE BEEN CONTINUED ONCE
AGAIN, BUT THE POINTS THAT I'VE PREPARED STILL STAND RIGHT NOW. 
          OUR SCHOOLS ARE AT CAPACITY, FAMILIES ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH LONG COMMUTES AND ADDING
THOUSANDS OF NEW HOMES WILL PUSH US FAR BEYOND WHAT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM CAN HANDLE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, LOTUS ALONE IS PROJECTED TO BRING OVER 450 NEW STUDENTS. 
          YET OUR SCHOOL BOARD ESTIMATES SAY THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE BETWEEN AT LEAST THREE AND UP TO
11 NEW SCHOOLS TO SUPPORT OUR RATE OF GROWTH. 
          ALTOGETHER, THE PROJECTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT COULD HAVE COULD BRING NEARLY 1693 NEW HOMES
AND ALMOST 600 NEW STUDENTS. 
          WHERE ARE THOSE CHILDREN GOING TO GO? OUR SCHOOLS IN THE AREA ARE ALREADY AT OR NEAR
CAPACITY, AND THE REPORTS SHOW THEY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THESE NEWCOMERS. 
          MEANWHILE, DEVELOPERS CONTINUE TO PROFIT WHILE RESIDENTS FOOT THE BILL. 
          OUR ON THE LOTUS 300 ACRES, THE PETE HOLDING LLC HAS TAX BREAKS DUE TO THE AGRICULTURAL
ZONING, MEANING THEY PAID ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT ON THEIR HUNDREDS OF ACRES AS MANY OF US PAY ON
OUR QUARTER ACRE LOTS. 
          AND NOW THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND FLIP THE LAND FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS TO HOPEFULLY
STICK TO THE PLAN. 
          ALL FOR PROFIT, ESSENTIALLY LEAVING PALM BAY TAXPAYERS WITH THE FINANCIAL CONSEQUENCES. 
          AND WHAT'S WORSE IS THEY'RE MARKETING THE ENVIRONMENTALLY ENDANGERED LAND TRAILHEAD AS IF
THAT'S SOME GREAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT. 
          LET'S BE HONEST, THAT'S NOTHING MORE THAN A SALES PITCH FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT WILL ONLY BRING MORE PEOPLE ONTO ENVIRONMENTALLY ENDANGERED LANDS THAT WE SHOULD BE
PROTECTING. 
          THIS IS NOT RESPONSIBLE GROWTH. IT'S RECKLESS AND RESIDENTS KNOW THAT. 
          LOOK AT ANY COMMENTS ON FACEBOOK THREADS ON ABOUT THESE PROJECTS. 
          THE COMMENTS AFTER COMMENTS SAY PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING. 
          WE DON'T WANT THIS. THE ONLY ONES PUSHING IT ARE THOSE WHO STAND TO MAKE MONEY. 
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PALM BAY DESERVES BETTER. WE NEED TO PUT INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST SCHOOLS,
ROADS, RESOURCES. 
          BEFORE DEVELOPMENTS. WE USED TO HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS UNDER THE GROWTH MANAGEMENT ACT OF
1985, BUT WHEN IT WAS ROLLED BACK IN 2011, THANKS TO RICK SCOTT,
IT OPENED THE FLOODGATES TO THE KIND OF AGGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT WE'RE FACING NOW. 
          INSTEAD OF PAVING OVER THIS PROPERTY, WE SHOULD PRESERVE IT. 
          WE HAVE VERY FEW ATTRACTIONS IN PALM BAY CITY LIMITS,
AND FOR DECADES, RESIDENTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SAID THERE'S NOTHING TO DO HERE. 
          FAMILIES LEAVE OUR CITY AND SPEND THEIR MONEY ELSEWHERE FOR ENTERTAINMENT,
RECREATION, CULTURE. 
          IMAGINE IF, INSTEAD OF ANOTHER SUBDIVISION, THIS PROPERTY WERE ACQUIRED BY THE CITY TO
BECOME A COMMUNITY LANDMARK, A PLACE LIKE TURKEY CREEK WITH NATURAL TRAILS,
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, PERHAPS A MUSEUM CELEBRATING FLORIDA'S HISTORY AND ECOSYSTEM. 
          THAT'S THE KIND OF PROJECT THAT WOULD BENEFIT GENERATIONS OF RESIDENTS,
NOT JUST ONE DEVELOPER'S BANK ACCOUNT. 
          PALM BAY IS AT A CROSSROADS. DO WE APPROVE YET ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT STRAINS OUR
SCHOOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, OR DO WE PRESERVE THE NATURAL ASSETS THAT COULD DEFINE OUR CITY FOR THE FUTURE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHRISTINE. 
          SHE LEFT MICHAEL BRADY. 
          BEFORE I READ THIS, I JUST WANT TO SAY I DO SUPPORT THE POLICE,
BUT I DO WANT TO REMIND THE CHIEF THAT WE DO HAVE BAD SEEDS IN THIS, IN THIS CITY, AND THESE THINGS NEED TO BE DEALT WITH,
AND THAT'S IN EVERY DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT'S JUST NOT THE POLICE. AND AS FAR AS LANCE FISHER GOES,
THE MAN'S NOT CRAZY. 
          OKAY. WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE FROM THE BEGINNING IS PUT THESE TWO CHILDREN IN A ROOM,
ALL RIGHT? AND LET THEM HASH OUT THEIR DIFFERENCES. THAT'S WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE UNDER SHERMAN. 
          AND YET IT CONTINUES TODAY. AND WHO'S PAYING FOR IT? THE TAXPAYERS. AND IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THE GODDAMN LAWSUITS. 
          FIRST, LET ME PAINT A PICTURE HERE FOR THE AUDIENCE. 
          WE HAVE A WHITE POLICE OFFICER, ROLLINS, AND WE HAVE A FEMALE BLACK VICTIM,
HATCHER, WHO WAS ASSAULTED UNJUSTIFIABLY, MADE VISUALLY CLEAR BY THE OFFICER'S BODY CAM. 
          I'VE SEEN THIS. COME ON, WHO CAN JUSTIFY THAT? THAT'S DESPICABLE. NOT TO MENTION ALL THE VIDEOS TAKEN BY NEIGHBORS. 
          APPARENTLY NOT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. WE HAVE A DAIS FILLED WITH A CITY OFFICIALS AND HAVE
NOT NOT ONLY JUSTIFIED, BUT CONDONED THE ASSAULT OF MISS HATCHER AT THE HANDS OF ITS OWN POLICE OFFICER,
SWORN TO UPHOLD THE LAW AND DEFEND THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE PUBLIC AT DEFENSE. 
          WHEN THE HATCHER FAMILY REACHED OUT TO THE NAACP FOR HELP,
THEY WERE TOLD BY THE NAACP PRESIDENT RODNEY EDWARDS BAR NUMBER 84139, THAT THE NAACP COULD NOT HELP THEM BECAUSE HE WAS A STAFF ATTORNEY. 
          FOR WHO? THE CITY OF PALM BAY, WHO DEFENDS THE VERY OFFICER ROLLINS WHO RACIALLY TARGETED
AND ASSAULTED MISS HATCHER AND FAMILY. I'M HERE TO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE HATCHER FAMILY. 
          I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT ELSE GOES ON. ALL RIGHT. 
          EDWARDS THEN DEFERRED HATCHER'S FAMILY TO OUTSIDE PAID COUNSEL. 
          REALLY? YOU WANT THEM TO PAY FOR THEIR THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS? COME ON. REALLY? THIS GOES AGAINST THE MISSION STATEMENT. 
          HE WAS SWORN TO UPHOLD, CITING FIGHT TO UPHOLD RACIAL EQUALITY IN PART,
AND AGAINST POLITICAL VIEWS IN PART LAST. HOW COULD YOU, PATRICIA SMITH, ALLOW SUCH A CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON YOUR LEGAL
STAFF? OH GOD, THIS IS SO DISTURBING. IS A CONVENIENCE OF SWEEPING CORRUPTION UNDER THE RUG. 
          I SAID, IN MY POLITICAL RUN, I AM ONLY RUNNING TO GET THE CORRUPTION OUT OF THIS. 
          I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. I WANT PEOPLE,
INDIVIDUALS WORKING FOR THIS CITY. 
          GOD. EVERYONE I'VE SPOKEN AGAINST. YOU CAN GET ON GOOGLE A RECORD SEARCH,
BUT YET. 
          MISS SHERMAN AND HR HIRE THESE BAD SEEDS. THANK YOU. 
          NEXT SPEAKER JUDY. I'M STEPH. 
          OKAY. JUDY. 751 PEBBLE BEACH AVENUE. FLORIDA ENACTED SENATE BILL 180, INTENDED TO SPEED UP RECOVERY FROM HURRICANES. 
          HOWEVER, IT PLACES SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON COUNTIES AND MUNICIPALITIES LIKE OURS FOR UP TO
THREE YEARS AFTER A DISASTER DECLARATION. WE CAN'T ADOPT OR ENFORCE NEW LAND USE RULES,
ZONING CHANGES OR DEVELOPMENT 
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STANDARDS THAT ARE STRICTER THAN THOSE FROM JULY 2024. 
          IT'S IT MAKES ALL STRICTER UPDATES ON OUR LAND USE. 
          PALM BAY HAS PASSED NULL AND VOID. THIS FREEZE APPLIES BROADLY EVEN TO AREAS NOT DIRECTLY
HIT, OVERRIDING OUR HOME RULE POWERS UNDER THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION AND STIFLING OUR ABILITY TO
ADAPT TO FLOODING, GROWTH, LAND USE, AND PROTECTION TO WETLANDS. 
          THIS BILL DIMINISHES THE 1968 CHARTER RULE AND THE 1973 MUNICIPAL HOME RULE ACT. 
          SB 180 ALLOWS ANY PROPERTY OWNER TO SUE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IF DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT
THEY DISLIKE. WHAT HAPPENED TO COMMON SENSE? AS BREVARD COUNTY AND PALM BAY FACE STORM RISKS
ALONG OUR SPACE COAST, WE NEED TOOLS TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT, INFRASTRUCTURE AND RESIDENTS,
NOT HANDCUFFS FROM TALLAHASSEE. 
          THE BEST WAY TO FIX THIS IS A TARGETED AMENDMENT TO LIMIT SB 180 EFFECTS TO A STRICT 12 TO
18 MONTH TIMELINE, AND APPLY IT ONLY TO OFFICIALLY NAMED DISASTER AREAS DESIGNATED BY FEMA OR THE
STATE. 
          THIS WOULD SUPPORT QUICK REBUILDING WHILE RESTORING OUR LOCAL CONTROL FOR LONG TERM
PLANNING, ENSURING WE CAN ENFORCE UPDATED FLOOD ZONES,
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND SMART GROWTH WITHOUT UNDUE STATE INTERFERENCE. 
          THIS WOULD RESTORE COMMON SENSE. SO I'M URGING YOU AS THE CITY COUNCILMAN TO FORMALLY
REQUEST THAT BREVARD COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION INTRODUCE AND SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT IN THE
2026 LEGISLATIVE SESSION. YOUR VOICE CARRIES WEIGHT,
AND YOU CERTAINLY HAVE GRASSROOTS SUPPORT TO BACK YOU. 
          SO I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          AND I WANT TO ADD THERE ARE 20 MUNICIPALS AND COUNTIES IN A CLASS CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT
RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU RUTH. 
          RUTH COUGHLIN 935 DOUGLAS STREET, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY. 
          LET'S GET BACK TO A LITTLE BUSINESS HERE. WHEN CAN WE EXPECT A STATUS? EVERY MEETING ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ON THE ROADS,
ON EVERYTHING THAT IS FAILING IN THE CITY. 
          BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN ANOTHER FAILURE ON THE PIPES AROUND HERE AND I FORGET WHERE IT WAS. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. THESE ALL OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE IS FAILING. 
          WE CANNOT STAND ANY MORE BUILDING, ANY MORE REZONING,
ANY MORE OF THIS STUFF. 
          SO CAN WE GET A STATUS ON THE AGENDA? EVERY SINGLE MEETING GIVING US THAT INFORMATION,
OR AT LEAST SEND ME A LINK WHERE I CAN FIND IT, BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND A STATUS ON ANY OF THESE PROJECTS GOING ON,
AND I CAN'T FIND A STATUS ON WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE PRIORITIES ARE AND WHERE THOSE ARE FALLING AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO BE DONE ON TIME OR NOT,
SO THAT WE CAN GET. 
          I'M A PROJECT MANAGER AS WELL. I WANT A PROJECT STATUS,
SO I ALSO WOULD APPRECIATE A CEASE AND DESIST IN SEARCHING THE ORDINANCES FOR SILENCING CITIZENS. I'M REALLY TIRED OF SEEING THAT STUFF. 
          THAT'S RIDICULOUS. STOP DOING THAT. THANK YOU,
MR. HAMER, FOR RECOGNIZING THE TRAFFIC JAMS ON ON EMERSON LEADING INTO MALABAR ALL OVER THE
PLACE BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 6 A.M. 
          AND 10 A.M. AND 4:00 TO SIX. I TRY NOT TO BE ON THE ROADS DURING THAT TIME,
BUT SOMETIMES IT'S UNAVOIDABLE. 
          SO NOW, WITH ALL THIS RAIN THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING,
IT'S EVEN MORE OF A CHALLENGE. 
          SO WHERE CAN WE GET STATUS ON THE ACTIVITIES THAT THE STAFF IS WORKING ON AS WELL? SO I'D APPRECIATE IF WE COULD JUST GET SOME SORT OF STATUS AND GET THIS BUILDING STOPPED
UNTIL IT IS COMPLETED. 
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THE NEW WORD NOW IS AS INFILL BUILDING TO DISRUPT CURRENT SUBDIVISIONS THERE. 
          I'M. WE WEREN'T THE ONLY ONE. THE THE ULSTER PROPERTY. 
          THERE WAS ANOTHER PROPERTY AS WELL. ALL OF THIS INFILL BUILDING. 
          BECAUSE THESE BUILDERS SEEM TO THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE EVERY PIECE OF LAND IMPROVED OR, OR WHATEVER THEIR DEFINITION OF IT IS. WELL,
THEY NEVER ASKED THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WHETHER THEY WANTED THEIR INPUT OR NOT. 
          THANK YOU. BUTCHER AND. 
          BUTCHER. EXCUSE ME. BUTCHER. AND 219 TRENTON AVENUE. 
          WE ALL WORRIED ABOUT ROADS AND TRAFFIC CONTROLS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          HAVE WE WENT OUT ON A NATIONWIDE SEARCH FOR A TRAFFIC COORDINATOR IN THE CITY,
OR WHATEVER THAT TITLE WAS. 
          WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ONE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND. 
          THAT, AND I DO WANT TO THANK YOU MR. HAMMER,
FOR BRINGING THAT UP. 
          THE ROADS ARE OVERSTRETCHED AS IT IS, BUT LIKE I'VE ALREADY BEEN TALKED. 
          I'VE HEARD OTHER FOLKS TALK ABOUT IT. WE CONTINUE TO GO,
OKAY, LET'S BUILD 350 HOUSES HERE. 
          LET'S BUILD 200 DOWN HERE. LET'S PUT 15 OVER THERE. 
          LET'S PUT 75 APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THE CITY. 
          WHERE'S ALL THAT TRAFFIC GOING TO GO? THE TIMING ON THE LIGHTS,
IF YOU COULD JUST START THERE. 
          AND JUPITER AND MINTON IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE. 
          THE SAME HOURS EVERYBODY ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT IN THE MORNINGS AND IN THE EVENINGS,
THE LIGHT TO TURN LEFT ONTO MINTON FROM JUPITER HEADED NORTHBOUND 20S. AND THE TRAFFIC JUST BACKS UP. 
          SAME IN THE AFTERNOON. SAME WAY, IF THEY COULD JUST CHANGE THE TIMING OF SOME OF THESE
LIGHTS. 
          SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, I HAD TO GO TO A SLEEP STUDY BECAUSE I'M AN OLD FART AND I CAN'T SLEEP
LIKE I'M SUPPOSED TO. 
          SO I COME BACK ABOUT 6:00 IN THE MORNING. EVERY LIGHT ON MALABAR ROAD WAS GREEN ALL THE
WAY HOME. 
          DIDN'T HAVE TO STOP FOR ONE GO OUT THE NEXT MORNING. 
          RED. GREEN. RED GREEN. THERE'S NO TIMING TO THE LIGHTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU HAVE TO HIRE TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF. 
          OR EVEN IF OUR SYSTEM, THE WAY THE LIGHTS OPERATE IS,
IS AT THE AGE WHERE IT CAN BE DONE. 
          AND THAT'S ALL THAT I GOT. OH, AND GO LSU. JORDAN. 
          MY NAME IS JORDAN. I'M A MINOR, SO I DON'T THINK I HAVE TO DO THE ADDRESS. 
          ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS IS ACTUALLY ADDRESSES. 
          BECAUSE IN A TIME WHERE PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY GONE TO THE TWO DEMOCRATIC LAWMAKERS,
I THINK IT WAS IN MINNESOTA AND MURDERED THEM AND THEIR DOG. 
          I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE DOG HAD TO DO WITH IT,
BUT THEY MURDERED THEM AT THEIR HOUSE. 
          I DON'T THINK IN THIS TIME OF POLITICAL VULNERABILITY THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE SAYING
THEIR ADDRESS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC REASON WE DO IT HERE IN PALM BAY. 
          AND THEN ALSO SPEAKING ON WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TO MR. LANGEVIN, ABOUT PUTTING THE NAME COUNCILMAN ON HIS POSTERS,
PUTTING A PERSONAL PUTTING THE COUNCILMAN'S NAME ON SOMETHING PERSONAL SEEMS KIND OF I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PUT IT. 
          IT'S VERY BACKWARDS. IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE NONPARTISAN AND THEN WE'RE PUTTING COUNCILMAN
ON SOMETHING PERSONAL, THEN WE'RE NOT REALLY BEING NONPARTISAN. AND THEN ALSO,
I DON'T KNOW, SPEAKING ON WHAT SOMEBODY SAID EARLIER ABOUT ATTRACTIONS IN PALM BAY, I HAD HEARD AT ONE POINT THAT YOU GUYS WERE TRYING TO GET A BUCKY'S,
BUT A BUCKY'S WOULD BE A NICE STOP. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ATTRACTIONS THAT I DEFINITELY THINK THE CITY SHOULD LOOK INTO.
AND SPEAKING ON DIFFERENT ROADS I THINK SHOULD BE FIXED, I THINK I DON'T THINK IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD, I THINK IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY,
BUT IT HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT PROBLEM IN THE CITY, ON RIVIERA AND PALM BAY ROAD AT THAT DUNKIN. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD KNOW WHAT I'M
TALKING ABOUT, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A GIANT POTHOLE THERE. 
          THERE'S BEEN A GIANT POTHOLE THERE SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID. MY MOM'S FALLEN INTO THAT
POTHOLE BEFORE I THINK IT WAS FALL. 
          I THINK IT WAS FILLED IN ONCE EVER. SO I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CONTACT THEM AND TRY
TO GET AT LEAST THAT POTHOLE FILLED. 
          AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES THE SPEAKER CARDS. 
          RECORDS. THANK YOU. SO WE ARE NOW ON UNFINISHED BUSINESS. 
          [UNFINISHED AND OLD BUSINESS:]
BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. MR. MORTON, THANK YOU,
HONORABLE MAYOR. 
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CITY COUNCIL STAFF TOOK DIRECTION, AS WE BELIEVE,
TO BE DIRECTION FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING TO BRING BACK OPTIONS TO RFA TO CONTINUE THE LEASE FOR THE EVANS CENTER. SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO CONSIDER RE SOLICITING PROPOSALS
THROUGH THE RFA PROCESS FOR THE EVANS CENTER. 
          IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO REISSUE AN RFA, THERE'S A FEW ELEMENTS STAFF WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO
CONSIDER AND WEIGH IN ON, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY AND CLARITY. WE DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT ANOTHER MANDATORY
SITE VISIT WOULD SHOULD BE REQUIRED IF YOU CHOOSE RFA OPTION ONE, WHICH IS AN EXPEDITED PROCESS. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH WHOEVER PROBABLE RFA
RESPONDENTS ARE TO DISCLOSE AS MUCH INFORMATION ABOUT THE CURRENT FACILITY, INCLUDING INVENTORY THAT'S THERE. WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE CLARITY THAT AT THIS POINT,
ALL UTILITY COSTS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE POTENTIAL RESPONDENT, EXCEPT FOR LAWN MAINTENANCE,
WHICH THAT IS IN THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE CYCLE. 
          CLARIFYING THAT AS SIMILAR WITH THE CLUB ESTEEM LEASE THAT HAD FALLEN THROUGH,
OR RFA THAT HAD FALLEN THROUGH, THERE'S $1,000 DEDUCTIBLE OR COUNCIL IS FREE TO CHANGE THAT FOR LARGER REPAIRS TO
MECHANICAL, HVAC AND PLUMBING SYSTEMS. ANY COSTS ABOVE THAT WOULD BE COVERED AS PART OF THE CITY'S
MAINTENANCE OPERATIONS. 
          CLARIFYING THAT ALL KITCHEN EQUIPMENT AND THE GREASE TRAPS ALL OTHER EQUIPMENT LIGHTS,
CONSUMABLES ARE SOLELY THE RFA RESPONDENTS RESPONSIBILITY FOR OPERATION, MAINTENANCE, SERVICING. WE DID PROVIDE AN ORIGINAL LEASE AND WOULD RECOMMEND THE SAME. 
          A ONE YEAR TERM WITH OPTIONAL RENEWALS PROPOSED WAS FOR AND THEN PROVIDING FOR A LEASE
RATE FOR THE EVANS CENTER. 
          AGAIN, STAFF BROUGHT TWO OPTIONS FORWARD WORKING THROUGH STAFF AND COUNCIL. 
          SO RFA ONE IS AN EXPEDITED PROCESS WITH A TENTATIVE ISSUE DATE OF 925. 
          SO A VERY FAST TURNAROUND. WE'D WALK THROUGH POTENTIAL APPLICANTS IF THEY'D LIKE TO,
AT LEAST IN ONE OPEN HOUSE STYLE DATE TO BE MADE AVAILABLE. 
          WE'D HAVE RFAS RESPOND IN A VERY SHORT TIME FRAME,
WHICH WOULD BE 15 CALENDAR DAYS. 
          WE DO A RESPONSIVENESS CHECK OF A PROPOSAL THE WEEK OF SECOND WEEK OF OCTOBER,
AND PRESENT APPLICANTS APPLICATIONS TO COUNCIL EITHER AT THE OCTOBER MEETING OR AT THE LATEST NOVEMBER 6TH, WITH A START DATE AGREED TO BY THE PARTIES. 
          THE SECOND OPTION PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IS A REVAMPED OR RECONSIDERED RFA PROCESS,
WHICH WOULD HAVE MORE STANDARD LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, BE A MUCH LONGER PROCESS, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND EVENTS TO SOLICIT INPUT,
WHICH WAS DONE. 
          WE'D REDO THAT OUTREACH TO NONPROFITS WITH POTENTIAL INPUT. 
          AGAIN, THAT WAS DONE THAT WOULD BE REDONE, REVISE AN RFA WITHOUT ANY YOUTH RESTRICTIONS,
CONDUCT WALKTHROUGHS FOR APPLICANTS. 
          THAT TENTATIVE DATE WOULD START SOMEWHERE IN JANUARY,
WHICH IS LONG, AND THAT WOULD BE MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE TIME CONSTRAINTS IN THE HOLIDAYS. 
          AND IN THAT SITUATION, A POTENTIAL LIKELY WOULDN'T START UNTIL MARCH OF 2026. 
          SO WHAT STAFF IS LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON INTEREST OR PERMISSION
TO MOVE, GUIDANCE TO MOVE FORWARD ON OPTION 1 OR 2 OR ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATION COUNCIL HAS. 
          AND AGAIN, JUST THAT WE CONSIDER THOSE ITEMS THAT I READ INTO THE STAFF REPORT. 
          THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR, SPEAKER, DOCTOR STEPHEN LAZARUS. 
          GREETINGS. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK JUST BRIEFLY HERE WITH YOU GUYS. 
          IT'S BEEN A LONG EVENING, I GUESS, FOR ALL OF US. 
          SO JUST HANG IN THERE FOR ANOTHER MINUTE HERE WITH ME. 
          I'M AGAIN, DOCTOR STEPHEN LAZARUS, AS INTRODUCED. 
          I'M A PROFESSOR AT FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND I'M ACTUALLY HERE TO SUPPORT A LOCAL NONPROFIT,
LITTLE GROWERS INCORPORATED, WHO HAS AN INTEREST IN THE EVANS CENTER PROPERTY. 
          I HAVE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, GOOD KARMA. I HAVE HAD A GREAT EXPERIENCE IN THE LAST YEAR AND A
HALF WORKING WITH THIS GROUP ON A DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY GRANT. 
          IT'S $1 MILLION GRANT. AND WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED. 
          WE'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH ARGONNE NATIONAL LAB AS WELL AS PARTNERS,
AND WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN SCIENCE AND CITIZEN SCIENCE WITH THIS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION. 
          AND WE FUNDED THEIR WORK, ACTUALLY, UP TO $100,000 OF THEIR WORK ON A THREE YEAR PROJECT. 
          AND WE'RE WORKING ON THINGS LIKE FLOOD MAPPING,
VERY HIGH RESOLUTION FLOOD MAPPING, HEAT STRESS MAPPING FOR THAT COMMUNITY AND FOR THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE, BASICALLY, THAT ARE LEFT ANYWAY. 
          THE I'M SURE YOU'RE SORT OF VERY MUCH AWARE,
AWARE OF ISSUES OF RISING HOMEOWNER'S INSURANCE. 
          SO THIS HAS VERY MUCH OF AN ECONOMIC BENT TO IT,
ESPECIALLY FOR ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED COMMUNITIES. 
          AND AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING IN THE POWELL SUBDIVISION WITH LITTLE GROWERS. WE'RE DOING THINGS
LIKE DROUGHT TOLERANT LANDSCAPING, BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENCY, HENCE THE DOE CONNECTION. 
          AND WE'RE DOING SOME OF THIS WORK AT STONE MIDDLE. 
          WE'RE WORKING WITH RESIDENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THERE. BASICALLY,
WE'VE TRAINED ABOUT ACTUALLY TEN, 
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TEN FOLKS ON WEATHER STATIONS. WE'VE INSTALLED TEN WEATHER STATIONS,
RAIN GAUGES. 
          WE'RE DOING ENERGY ASSESSMENTS AT STONE AND AT RESIDENCES OVER THERE. 
          AND WE HAVE A REAL COMMITMENT. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH,
AGAIN, LITTLE GROWERS TO DO ALL OF THIS, AND THEY'VE HELPED US ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY DIRECTLY. IT'S BEEN A GREAT
EXPERIENCE A LOT. 
          A LOT OF GOOD A LOT OF GOOD STUFF HAS COME UP TO NOW. 
          SO WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO HERE? SO WE'D LIKE THAT CENTER JUST TO BE SPECIFIC HERE AND
CLEAR, TO SERVE AS A RESILIENCE HUB. FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT RESILIENCE HUB IS IT WOULD
SERVE THE COMMUNITY. 
          IT'S REALLY KIND OF FOCUSED ON POST-DISASTER RESPONSE. 
          SO TO HELP THAT COMMUNITY BASICALLY ACT IN THOSE SITUATIONS AS A RESOURCE CENTER FOR THAT
COMMUNITY. 
          AND WE KIND OF ENVISION IT BASICALLY AS A FOCAL POINT FOR RESOURCE DISTRIBUTION OR
EMERGENCY COORDINATION AND COMMUNITY DISASTER PLANNING, AND ALSO PROVIDING YEAR ROUND BENEFITS. JUST AS A BASIC COMMUNITY CENTER,
I THINK IT'D BE AWESOME. 
          AS ONE OF SEVERAL EXPERTS AT FLORIDA TECH, BASICALLY I AM WORKING WITH LITTLE GROWERS ON
THE CURRENT PROJECT, AND I'M HERE TO LEND MY EXPERTISE AND AND DESIRE TO PARTNER WITH LITTLE GROWERS TO HELP
THEM REACH THEIR DREAMS. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. 
          AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. HEY, COUNCIL,
I WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO EXTEND. 
          SO MOVED FOR HOW LONG? 1110. YEAH, THEY THEY TYPICALLY GO IN 30 MINUTE SEGMENTS. 
          I NEED A MOTION TO EXTEND. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THE MEETING TO 1130. 
          SECOND. I GOT EMOTIONAL. I GOT. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          COUNCIL MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? NAY. ONE. NAY. PASSES. FOUR. ONE. OKAY. CARRY ON. 
          I HAD A QUESTION FOR DOCTOR LAZARUS. OR MAYBE DANIEL HADLEY. 
          YOU'RE STAYING WITH US, SIR, TILL 1130. OKAY. 
          I HAVEN'T I HAVEN'T EVEN EATEN DINNER. IS THERE IS THERE A YOUTH COMPONENT,
YOU THINK TO YOUR. 
          YEAH. WHAT? WHAT'S THAT AGAIN? IS THERE A YOUTH COMPONENT? YES. OKAY. OH, YEAH. WE'RE DOING A LOT. WE'RE DOING? YEAH. GOOD QUESTION. EDUCATION IN THE
COMMUNITY AS WELL. WE ACTUALLY PARTICIPATED IN THEIR EARN AND LEARN THIS SUMMER BASICALLY. 
          AND WE HAVE SEVERAL FACULTY THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO GO WITH OPTION ONE TONIGHT,
IT'S THE EXPEDITED REVIEW PROCESS. 
          WOULD WOULD YOU GUYS BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE DATES? OKAY. YES. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. 
          YEP. THANK YOU VERY MUCH I APPRECIATE IT. YEP. 
          NEXT SPEAKER. THAT CONCLUDES THE CARDS. MAYOR. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO WHAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE? I MAKE A MOTION TO GO WITH OPTION NUMBER ONE
SECOND. 
          I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEY, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AS YOU WERE CITY MANAGER. 
          JUST SOME CLARIFICATION, PLEASE. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. IS THAT RECOMMENDATION,
INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR INCLUSIONARY ITEMS AND THE MEETING SCHEDULE AS DESCRIBED IN OPTION ONE? AND READ INTO THE STAFF REPORT AT THE BEGINNING ON THE FIRST PAGE. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS MY MOTION IS INTENDED TO GO WITH OPTION NUMBER ONE AND IN ITS ENTIRETY. 
          THANK YOU. THAT WAS OPTION NUMBER ONE. YES, SIR. 
          SO FOR CLARIFICATION SHE DIDN'T YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CARD. 
          YOU AS AN APPLICANT. WE'RE WE'RE NOT TAKING APPLICATIONS,
MISS. 
          NO, I'M SAYING AS AN APPLICANT WHO WAS ALREADY AWARDED FROM THE FIRST WE'RE GOING WE
ALREADY HAVE A MOTION THAT WE'RE GOING WITH OPTION ONE. SO THERE'S A SHORT PERIOD. 
          THE SHORTEST PERIOD FOR YOU TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. 
          RIGHT. SO WE'RE NOT DECIDING WHO GETS IT TONIGHT. 
          BUT THERE WAS NO SPEAKER CARDS. AND SO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW,
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. 
          I DID HAVE A SPEAKER CARD. THERE'S NO CARD. 
          SHE ALWAYS. OKAY. I KNOW SHE DID. GIVE ME SOMETHING. 
          SHE CAN FILL ANOTHER ONE OUT. SHE CAN FILL ANOTHER ONE OUT. 
          I CAN SAY SHE CAN FILL ANOTHER ONE OUT IF SHE FEELS SHE SAID SHE. 
          YEAH, BUT I GOT EMOTIONAL. YEAH. I WITHDRAW MY MOTION. 
          OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO GO AHEAD. I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT WE BROUGHT UP. 
          TERRY JONES COULDN'T BE HERE. CONNIE MCCLURE,
MARGARET DEHART AND TYRONE BRYANT. 
          [04:45:04]
THEY SENT LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO YOU BASED ON OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING. 
          AND SO I JUST WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION AS TO WHAT HAPPENED WITH EXHIBIT A,
BECAUSE EXHIBIT A WAS A CLEAR INDICATION THAT THREE ORGANIZATIONS WAS AWARDED AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL,
AND THAT DECISION WAS MADE. 
          AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GET A FOLLOW UP FROM THE ATTORNEY,
BECAUSE WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE PROCUREMENT LAWS, AND THERE WAS NOTHING IN THERE THAT WOULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. 
          SO WE WERE WONDERING ABOUT AN ADMINISTRATIVE OF DECISION AND WHY THAT WAS NOT OFFERED. 
          BECAUSE OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, SINCE FEBRUARY,
WE HAVE A WAITING LIST OF STUDENTS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACTS THAT WE STARTED BECAUSE WE WERE AWARDED. 
          AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WHERE DID THAT GO? DID YOU NOT SPEAK WITH THE CITY MANAGER? I CALLED TO GET ON THE CALENDAR,
BUT I COULDN'T GET ON THE CALENDAR. 
          OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO MADAM ATTORNEY. I PREVIOUSLY SPOKE WITH HER,
AND I KNOW MR. EDWARDS, WHO HAS BEEN HANDLING THIS, HAS SPOKE AS WELL. 
          I BELIEVE BETWEEN OUR OFFICE AND PROCUREMENT,
THAT THE AWARD WAS TO THE PARTY WHO ACTUALLY WITHDREW. THEY WERE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO IN UNDER THAT PERSON. 
          AND BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS AWARDED, ONCE IT WAS WITHDRAWN,
IT WAS SENT PROVIDED BACK OUT BECAUSE TO GIVE ANYBODY ELSE AN OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE HAD PUT IT. I AM AWARE OF NOTHING ELSE CONTRARY TO THAT. 
          IN EXHIBIT A, I SUBMITTED TO YOU THAT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED TO PRIOR STAFF. 
          EBY I FORGET HER LAST NAME, AND SHE WROTE BACK AND SAID,
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THIS IS NOT THE CASE BECAUSE WE WERE ASKING ABOUT ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS BEING PULLED AND SHE SAID, I CAN ASSURE YOU THIS IS NOT THE CASE. 
          NOT SURE HOW THAT RUMOR GOT STARTED, BUT STEAM,
CRIA AND MECCA ARE ALL BEING PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON THURSDAY, SO I'M JUST ASKING. WE WERE ALL APPLICANTS AND WE CHOSE AS A GROUP FOR CLUB ESTEEM TO BE
THE ONE, TO BE THE LEAD AND TO PRESENT BECAUSE OF THEIR TENURE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM BEING ABOVE US. 
          AND THAT'S WHY ON THE LEASE YOU HAD THREE SIGNATURES. 
          THE LEASE HAS THREE SIGNATURES. IT DOES NOT HAVE ONE. 
          SO WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT PROCUREMENT LAW JUST TO SEE UNDER THE PALM BAY CITY COUNCIL, I MEAN UNDER THE PALM BAY LAW, CHAPTER 38. AND THERE'S NOTHING TO SPEAK TO THIS. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO SEE WHY WOULD WE BE CONSIDERED SUBCONTRACTORS WHEN THE BASED ON THE
INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO US FROM STAFF, WE STARTED BRINGING IN FUNDERS, WE STARTED SIGNING CONTRACTS. 
          I MEAN, WE STARTED DOING THE WORK SINCE FEBRUARY. 
          THANK YOU. MADAM ATTORNEY, IT'S NOT BASED UPON WHAT STAFF SAID IS HOW COUNCIL WHEN COUNCIL
MADE THE AWARD. AND OF COURSE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE PEOPLE INVOLVED,
WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS I INSISTED UPON IN WHICH MR. EDWARDS DID THE LEASE WAS GOING TO BE JOINTLY AND SEVERALLY RESPONSIBLE. 
          SO EVERYBODY THAT WAS GOING TO BE A PART WAS GOING TO BE EQUALLY RESPONSIBLE. 
          BUT ONCE THE MAIN PARTY SAID, YOU SAID, YOU KNOW,
I DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS. 
          THAT'S WHEN IT FELL APART. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING,
WHICH IS WHY WE CAME BACK WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. BUT IT'S NOT ULTIMATELY,
IT'S NOT WHAT STAFF SAYS. 
          IT'S WHAT COUNCIL SAYS. OKAY. MR. MORTON. I,
I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY. 
          WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. 
          I KNOW EVERYONE WAS INFORMED THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING NOW FOR FOR SEVERAL WEEKS. I THINK IT
GOES BACK TO EARLY AUGUST THAT WE WERE HEADED THIS DIRECTION. 
          I THINK COUNCIL GAVE US CLEAR DIRECTION IN THE HEARING THAT IT WAS NOT AWARDED TO BE AKIN
TO AWARDING IT TO A SUBCONTRACTOR WHEN A CONTRACTOR HAS APPLIED. 
          I KNOW THERE'S MAYBE NOT SATISFACTION WITH THAT ANSWER,
BUT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY, WHICH IS WHY WE BROUGHT BACK A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION AND A NEW RFP PROCESS. 
          AND WE WEREN'T WE WEREN'T SUBCONTRACTORS. WE WERE ALL THREE APPLICANTS. 
          AND THAT IS WHY WE WE TRIED TO GET CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF WHO SAID SPECIFICALLY,
KRIYA CLUB AND MECCA ARE ALL BEING PRESENTED TO COUNCIL ON THURSDAY. 
          I MEAN, EITHER ONE OF US COULD HAVE BROUGHT COULD HAVE DID OUR FINANCIALS. 
          EITHER ONE OF US COULD HAVE. I MEAN, THAT'S YOU PROVIDE YOUR FINANCIALS. 
          IN THE MEANTIME, WE GOT TO GET BACK ON A POINT OF ORDER. OKAY. OF COURSE,
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM. 
          AND ALLOW THEM TO GO THROUGH THE MAYBE THE PROCUREMENT PROTEST ABILITY. 
          WE'RE NOT GOING TO HANDLE THIS TONIGHT, SO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE IT. OKAY. 
          I GOT A MOTION BY SECOND DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          [04:50:03]
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I. OKAY, PASSES. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER TWO. APPOINTMENTS. 
          DEPUTY MAYOR. TO THE MELBOURNE. TILLMAN. YEAH. 
          ONE APPOINTMENT TO THE MELBOURNE TILLMAN WATER CONTROL DISTRICT. 
          THERE'S A RANKING SHEET, AND, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JOSEPH HALE TO THAT BOARD. 
          SECOND, I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          ITEM NUMBER ONE UNDER NEW BUSINESS, MISS SMITH. 
          [NEW BUSINESS:]
RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. 
          I'VE LOST MY RESOLUTION. 2025 129. NEW BUSINESS NUMBER ONE. YES, SIR. OKAY, I LOST IT IN MY PAPERWORK. 
          I'M JUST PULLING IT BACK UP. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 29,
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING RESOLUTION 2024 DASH 44,
WHICH GRANTED APPROVAL OF A DECLARATION OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS, ALSO KNOWN AS THE LAND USE RESTRICTION AGREEMENT. 
          LAURA. FOR AN AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY RENTAL DEVELOPMENT IN AREAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL,
INDUSTRIAL OR MIXED USE IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION ONE. 
          66.04151 FLORIDA STATUTES KNOWN AS BUILDER MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND CC COMMUNITY
COMMERCIAL ZONING, WHICH PROPERTY IS LOCATED WEST OF AND ADJACENT TO BASS PRO SHOP DRIVE NORTHEAST IN
THE VICINITY, SOUTH OF AND ADJACENT TO EXECUTIVE CIRCLE NORTHEAST. 
          LEGALLY DESCRIBED HEREIN PROVIDED FOR FILING OF THE LAW. 
          PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. 
          WE'VE GOT A COMPREHENSIVE STAFF REPORT, BUT I BELIEVE ALTHEA IS GOING TO COME UP AND GIVE
YOU THE THE HIGH LEVEL REPORT HERE FOR THE REQUEST. 
          GOOD EVENING. A VERY HIGH LEVEL. SO YOU PROBABLY RECALL THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT CALLED
BILD.DE. 
          IT WAS OUR FIRST LIVE LOCAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED. 
          AND SINCE THE LEGISLATION CHANGED EARLIER THIS YEAR TO STATE THAT THE 10% WOULD BE THE CAP
FOR THE COMMERCIAL, THEY ARE LOOKING ACTUALLY. AND BECAUSE YOU DID NOT PASS THE INCENTIVE,
THE TAX INCENTIVE LAST WINTER, THEY'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS TO BE PROVIDED. 
          IT IS A REQUEST THAT THEY CAN MAKE. AND IT'S UP TO THE BOARD. 
          I MEAN THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE IF THIS IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO. 
          THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY RAMIFICATIONS FOR THIS. 
          I WOULD GUESS ON OUR SIDE, OTHER THAN THEY WOULD BE DEEMED A NON-CONFORMING USE IF YOU
DIDN'T CHANGE THE AGREEMENT TONIGHT. 
          AND WE LEFT THE 40% AFFORDABLE UNITS, BUT THEY ONLY PROVIDED 10% ANYWAY,
THEY'D STILL BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT WE DEEM THEM AS A NON-CONFORMING USE. SO ORIGINALLY THIS LIVED LOCAL WAS SUPPOSED TO
BE 40%, AND NOW THEY'RE SWITCHING IT UP. IT'S IT'S 40%. 
          THEY CAN PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 10% DEPENDING ON THE AFFORDABILITY. 
          IF IT'S 180%, 160%, THEY CAN DO, YES, 10% OF THE UNITS. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ASKING TO DO WHAT? ASKING TO REDUCE FROM 48 UNITS TO 10%,
WHICH WOULD TAKE THEM DOWN TO 12. SO THEY HAVE 48 UNITS RIGHT NOW. THAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          YES. OUT OF HOW MANY? THAT'S TOTAL. 48? NO. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WERE 120 WERE
OUT OF 120. 48 IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. YES. AS THE LAURA STANDS RIGHT NOW THAT YOU APPROVED. 
          OKAY. THAT'S WHAT WE APPROVED. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. NEXT. COLE. COLE. OLIVER. 
          GOOD EVENING. COLE. OLIVER. FOR THE APPLICANT ADDRESSES 1901 SOUTH HARBOR CITY BOULEVARD. 
          MELBOURNE, FLORIDA. REAL QUICKLY. THANK YOU FOR TONIGHT. 
          [04:55:01]
I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT FOR EVERYONE. A LOT OF EMOTIONS IN THE ROOM TO DESCRIBE OUR
REQUEST. 
          THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST. IT IS. THE STAFF IS CORRECT. 
          WE'RE ASKING TO GO FROM THE 40. IT'S TOTAL UNITS ARE STAYING AT 120,
BUT THE PORTION THAT WOULD BE LIMITED IN RENT WOULD GO FROM 48 UNITS TO 12 UNITS. 
          AND THE BASIS FOR THAT, THE WHY THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING IT. 
          IF YOU'LL ALLOW ME A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO GO BACK IN TIME ON HOW WE GOT HERE IN 2023,
LIVE LOCAL LAW WAS PASSED AND SIGNED INTO LAW BY THE GOVERNOR. 
          THE APPLICANT BEGAN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO UTILIZE THE NEW STATE LAW TO BRING THIS
PROJECT IN. 
          AT THAT TIME, THE LAW DID NOT ALLOW CITIES TO STEP BACK FROM THE AD VALOREM TAX EXEMPTION
THAT THOSE UNITS WOULD NOT BE TAXED ON AD VALOREM PURPOSES, THE 48 UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE. 
          SUBSEQUENTLY, MY CLIENT SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN TO THE CITY. 
          THE STATE LAW CHANGED THAT ALLOWED CITIES TO OPT OUT OF THAT AD VALOREM ABATEMENT. 
          MY CLIENT'S SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED. AND THAT WAS IN MAY WHEN THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THAT INTO
LAW. 
          AND IN JUNE, THE CITY APPROVED THE SITE PLAN AND MY CLIENT BEGAN WORK ON THE SITE
INVESTING MONEY. 
          THEY RECEIVED LOAN COMMITMENTS FROM THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS,
THOSE LOAN COMMITMENTS. 
          AND THAT WORK WAS BASED ON THE THEN CURRENT RULE WITH THE CITY,
THAT THOSE UNITS WOULD NOT FACE AD VALOREM TAXES, WHICH I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'LL BE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS EACH OR
MORE PER UNIT. 
          THAT AD VALOREM TAX WISE, THAT IS NOW GOING TO BE PLACED ON MY CLIENT'S BURDEN TO BRING
THIS PROJECT IN. 
          THAT SAID, WE CAME BEFORE THE CITY IN NOVEMBER. 
          I THINK IT WAS ALL FIVE OF YOU WERE HERE AT THAT TIME,
AND THERE WAS A LAND USE RESTRICTION AGREEMENT THAT HAS TO, BY STATE LAW, BE FILED. AND IN THAT THAT SETS FORTH THE RESTRICTIONS ON THE PROPERTY THAT
40% OF THE UNITS WOULD MEET THE LOCAL REQUIREMENTS. AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT DOCUMENT IS THAT SO YOU,
AS A GOVERNING BODY, WILL KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS FOLLOWING THE STATE LAW OF THE 40%. 
          THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT, THOUGH WITH SOME ARM TWISTING,
AND THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY HAVE AN OPTION UNDER THE WAY. 
          THE STATE LAW IS WRITTEN. AND I RESPECT THE,
YOU KNOW, THE POSITION YOU ALL ARE PUT IN WITH THAT. 
          SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE CITY IN DECEMBER OF THAT YEAR OPTED OUT OF THE AD VALOREM OPTION,
MEANING THAT THE MY CLIENT, WHO HAD COME IN AND MADE THE INVESTMENT BANK DECISIONS BASED ON NOT PAYING
AD VALOREM TAXES ON THE PORTION OF THE UNITS THAT ARE WITH IS IT OKAY? IS THE APPLICANT IF I HAVE A COUPLE MORE MINUTES,
PLEASE? IT'S UP TO YOU. CARRY ON. THANK YOU. SIR. SO THEY MADE THEIR INVESTMENT BACK DECISIONS ON
THOSE TAXES NOT BEING PART OF THEIR ONGOING BURDEN EACH YEAR AS THEY BROUGHT THESE IN. 
          THOSE UNITS ARE BEING FINALIZED IN THE NEXT MONTH,
MONTH AND A HALF. 
          AND THE PURPOSE FOR THE REQUEST IS NOT TO NOT PAY TAXES TO THE CITY. 
          WHAT THEY'RE REALLY REQUESTING IS TO TAKE THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 48 DOWN TO 12. 
          AND NOW THE 12 UNITS ARE ALL STILL BEING TAXED AND ARE THE FULL PROJECT. 
          THE 120 UNITS WILL BE PAYING AD VALOREM TAXES,
BUT IF THEY CAN PULL THEIR NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE RESTRICTED AND RENT, THEY CAN UP THEIR RENTAL RATES ON THE OTHER TO AFFORD TO PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES. 
          NOW THAT WILL BE THEIR BURDEN TO PAY IN THE EVENT THAT THE ANCILLARY BENEFIT TO THE CITY
ON THAT WOULD BE THAT THAT PROPERTY ITSELF WILL PROBABLY BE VALUED MORE BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER,
BECAUSE NOW, INSTEAD OF BEING 40% OF IT, RENT CONTROL, NOW ONLY 12 OR 10% OF IT IS RENT CONTROL. 
          CREATING MORE INCOME FOR THE PROJECT, WHICH MAKES THE PROJECT WORTH MORE ON THE PROPERTY. 
          APPRAISERS THE TRIM NOTICES THAT GO OUT. SO THE CITY WOULD BE COLLECTING ADDITIONAL AD
VALOREM TAXES IF THEY CAN AGREE WITH US ON THIS AMENDMENT, REDUCING IT FROM 40% TO 10%. I DO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE WITH ME TONIGHT IF
THERE ARE QUESTIONS, BUT THAT IS OUR REQUEST IS SOME RELIEF FROM THE I'LL SAY THE THE RULES CHANGED ON US
BETWEEN WHEN WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION AND WHEN WE'RE FINISHING. 
          ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? BILL. BATTEN. BILL. BATTEN 586 OCEAN 
          [05:00:02]
SPRAY STREET. THIS IS A CASE OF WHAT WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO THE TO THE CITY COUNCIL? AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR REVENUE TO PAY FOR OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          THAT'S WHAT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. UNFORTUNATELY,
LIVE LOCAL MUDDIED THE WATERS. 
          THAT MADE EVERYTHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFUSING. 
          SO I, I CALLED AND I GOT A RESPONSE BACK FROM GROWTH MANAGEMENT TODAY,
AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS. 
          BUT I WAS CURIOUS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. WE'RE TRYING TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO HELP 48 PEOPLE
HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR HOW MUCH ARE WE LOOKING AT IN DIFFERENCE FROM TAX REVENUE THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN
BRINGING INTO THE CITY? UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO PROVIDE ME THAT NUMBER,
BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE SITUATION WAS GOING TO BE. 
          SO AS I'M LOOKING AT THIS CONTRACT, WHAT THEY SAY FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU HAVE TO
FOLLOW, FALL IN THE TAX BRACKET OF 80 TO 100% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME FOR THE FOR THE CITY OF PALM
BAY. 
          WELL, FOR ME, BILL BATTEN SAYS THAT'S MORE THAN I MADE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE. 
          AND I'M AT 80 AND I'M ALREADY A RICH PERSON. BUT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE SAYING 40%,
YOU WOULD HAVE HAD 40% IN THAT MEDIAN INCOME. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE CHARGING OF RENT. 
          SO THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BE CHARGING MARKET VALUE,
OR WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING A RENT THAT'S AFFORDABLE. 
          IT GOES BACK DOWN. TO WHICH ONE WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU AS THE COUNCIL,
HAVING THE TAX REVENUE COME IN OR HAVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO COME IN. 
          ME PERSONALLY, BECAUSE I'M A DOUBTING TOM. I GOT MY TAX FORM RIGHT HERE. 
          YOU BROKE THE CAP BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY FOR YOUR INCOME,
FOR YOUR FOR YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          SO YOU BROKE THE CAP. SO LET'S SEE. LET'S MAKE SOME LOW INCOME HOUSING OVER HERE WHERE WE
DON'T COLLECT ANY REVENUE ON, OR LET'S HAVE THE TAX REVENUE THAT'S GENERATING IN,
BECAUSE IT'S ON A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT GENERATES THE TAX REVENUE TO HELP LOWER MY TAX BRACKET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT SPEAKER. 
          CONCLUDES THE CARDS, MA'AM. OKAY, COUNCIL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? YES, MAYOR. I MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THIS. I GOT A MOTION. 
          I'LL SECOND. AND I GOT A I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          COUNCILMAN. LET'S GO. IN ORDER. OH, COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN MADE THE MOTION. 
          CARRY ON. YEAH, MAYOR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. 
          QUITE FRANKLY, THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT USED STATE LAW TO GO AROUND THE AUTHORITY OF THIS
COUNCIL TO GO AROUND HOW WE NORMALLY DO THINGS TO TAKE AWAY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND IN ESSENCE, QUITE FRANKLY, SCREW THE CITY OVER. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK YOU GOT A LOT OF AUDACITY TO COME HERE RIGHT NOW AND ASK US TO NOW CHANGE
IT IN YOUR BENEFIT. 
          I'M GOING TO BE A HARD NO ON THIS. IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENT THAT WE SAY,
HEY, YOU CAN COME IN AND USE LIVE LOCAL, TAKE WHATEVER PROPERTY YOU WANT, BUILD SOMETHING FOR YOU. OH,
AND THEN YOU CAN COME BACK A FEW MONTHS LATER AND YOU CAN HAVE IT AMENDED TO BE IN YOUR FAVOR. WE PASSED THE WE. HEY, WE PASSED THE TAX INCENTIVE REGARDING LIVE LOCAL RIGHT AFTER
THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THE ITEM, GENTLEMEN. 
          THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. I'M GOING TO REFLECT WHAT HE SAID AS WELL. 
          I DON'T THINK THIS PROJECT WOULD HAVE PASSED IF THE GUY THAT WAS SITTING IN THE SEAT
BEFORE ME THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE 12, 12 DWELLINGS. AND I'M GOING TO ECHO HIS WORDS TONIGHT WITH THAT,
AND THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. I WAS A NO ON THIS, YOU KNOW, AT A PRINCIPAL,
BECAUSE I DIDN'T AGREE THAT THIS WAS FORCED ON US. 
          SO ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I'VE GOT A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN,
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TWO CONSIDERATION. 
          MR. MORTON. 
          THANK YOU. BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A CONSIDERATION OF AN APPOINTEE TO SERVE ON THE
EVALUATION SELECTION COMMITTEE FOR SOLICITATION OF STATE LOBBYING SERVICES. 
          THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I'LL THROW MY NAME IN THE HAT,
GENTLEMEN, TO TO WORK ON THIS COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO AS WELL. NOW I'LL SPEAK BRIEFLY ON IT. 
          [05:05:04]
SO I WAS THE COUNCIL MEMBER ON IT LAST TIME WHEN WE ENDED UP WITH WHO WE HAVE RIGHT NOW,
SUNRISE CONSULTING. 
          PREVIOUSLY WE HAD A DIFFERENT LOBBYIST AND WHICH WE DIDN'T GET ANY FUNDING FROM IN THE
PREVIOUS YEARS. 
          BUT WHAT THE PROCESS SHOWED ME WAS DURING THE PROCESS OF BEING,
YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED TO BE IMPARTIAL. 
          I WAS BEING REACHED OUT TO BY STATE LEGISLATIVE OFFICIALS TO TRY TO GET ME TO SUPPORT ONE
PERSON OVER THE OTHER. 
          SO WHETHER IT'S IF IT'S NOT ME, WHOEVER IT IS,
YOU HAVE TO STAND TRUE TO THE PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE MANIPULATED. 
          AND I'M GLAD I STUCK WITH WHO WAS THE BEST CANDIDATE BECAUSE BECAUSE OF THE SUNRISE
CONSULTING, WE'VE GOTTEN SO MUCH MORE FUNDING FROM THE STATE LEVEL THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE,
THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE. 
          AND I LIKE SUNRISE CONSULTING, BUT IF SOMEBODY ELSE COMES BETTER,
THEN SO BE IT WITH THEM. 
          BUT WHOEVER IT IS, IF IT'S NOT ME, DON'T LET OUTSIDE SOURCES OR ENTITIES INFLUENCE YOU. 
          AND GOING AGAINST WHAT YOU SEE IS RIGHT IN REGARDS TO THE TABULATION OF THE SCORES. 
          SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR I JUST REMEMBER FROM FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN IT HAPPENED AND I
WAS, YOU KNOW, I WAS THROWN OFF GUARD BY IT, BUT I STAYED TRUE WITH WHAT I KNEW. 
          AND IT'S WORKED OUT TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS. 
          SO THAT'S ALL. COPY THAT. SIR. I BELIEVE THE SAME THING TO BE VERY IMPARTIAL IN THIS
PROCESS BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT RESULTS. IT SHOULDN'T BE GIMME. SO I,
I UNDERSTAND I WAS HERE WHEN YOU WERE SIGNED THAT THAT PROJECT. SO I, I'M THROWING MY NAME IN THE HAT AS WELL. 
          BUT HOWEVER, THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO MOVE. I'M. 
          I'M GOOD WITH THAT AS WELL. SO ANYONE ELSE? I'M GOOD. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MAYOR MEDINA TO SERVE ON THE EVALUATION SELECTION COMMITTEE. 
          I'LL SECOND IT. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. 
          SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. 
          I THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, FOR THE FOR. MADAM CLERK. 
          I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM I HAVE IN MY NOTES TO APPOINT AN ALTERNATE AS WELL. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCILMAN JOHNSON AS THE ALTERNATE. 
          I'LL SECOND. ALL IN. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE,
SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. 
          ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE NOW ON COUNCIL REPORTS. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN. 
          [COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL REPORTS:]
ALL I'VE GOT IS WE DID OUR. WE TALKED ABOUT OUR STATE APPROPRIATIONS A MEETING OR TWO AGO. 
          AND ONE THING THAT WAS DIFFERENT THIS YEAR THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ON IT THIS YEAR THAT WE DID
HAVE LAST YEAR WAS LAST YEAR. 
          WE ALSO HAD SOME POLICY ITEMS LIKE LIVE LOCAL THAT WE AGREED UPON,
THAT WE WOULD TELL OUR LOBBYISTS WE WANT THEM TO KIND OF GO AFTER. 
          SO I WAS I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK AS WELL AND ADD THAT. 
          YEAH, I KIND OF LOVE THAT IDEA AMENDING THAT,
LIKE, WE WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN LIVE LOCAL, BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF WE COULD ADD THAT SB 180 THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY JUDY TODAY AND AND
KIND OF LIKE SET A TIME FRAME TO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WORK. SO I'D BE AMENABLE TO THAT. 
          COUNCILMAN, AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP. 
          SO LAST YEAR, IT WAS KIND OF HAPPENING, RIGHT AS WE HAD NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS COMING ON. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS ALREADY KIND OF A COUPLE
ITEMS ON THERE. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED SOME WHERE THE COUPLE ITEMS THAT WERE ON THERE ALREADY WERE THEY,
WERE THEY PUT ON BY STAFF OR THEY PUT ON BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD ALREADY BEEN ON BEFORE THE ELECTION? HOW DID I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION? ALL ALONG WE WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE PART OF LIVE LOCAL,
RIGHT FROM THE FROM THE OFFSET. 
          AND THEN THAT THE ACT OF IT WAS WE WE ARE WE SHOULD BE EXCLUDED BECAUSE THERE WAS A
CONSENSUS OF LIKE PORT SAINT LUCIE, YOU KNOW, GDC DEVELOPMENT CITIES. 
          PORT CHARLOTTE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO BE EXCLUDED FROM THE LAW ALTOGETHER. 
          TOGETHER. BUT IT WENT DOWN IN FLAMES, SIR. YEAH,
THAT WAS GOOD. 
          I'M JUST WONDERING HOW THE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS,
BUT. YEAH. SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOOD, BRING THAT UP AS A NEW BUSINESS ITEM AND GOING INTO THE LEGISLATIVE CYCLE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. 
          [05:10:01]
FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALTHEA FOR STEPPING UP. 
          IT IS. IT IS A LOT ON YOUR PLATE. AND THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP AND DOING DOING YOUR PART
FOR OUR TEAM. 
          SECOND, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MATT AND TO THE STAFF. 
          I'VE. I'VE PUT A FEW THINGS ON THEIR PLATE, AND THEY HAVE SOARED APPROPRIATELY,
AS I WOULD EXPECT. 
          THIRD. I'M, I'M HOPING I CAN GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS LIFE ISN'T PROMISED. I'VE DEALT WITH SOME, SOME LOSS IN MY LIFE,
AND IT'S BEEN FAMILY THAT THAT I'VE LOVED MORE THAN ANYTHING. AND THEY'VE BEEN SICK AND I,
YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF SEE IT COMING, BUT THERE'S NO PROMISE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AT HOME. 
          AND I, I UNFORTUNATELY HAD TO LEARN THAT THIS LAST WEEK. 
          IT'S LITERALLY CHANGED MY WHOLE LIFE. HOW I LOOK AT EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT I EVER MEET. 
          MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME YOU MEET HIM. MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME THAT YOU GET TO SAY HOW YOU
FEEL. 
          TELL HIM YOU CARE ABOUT HIM. FIX BAD RELATIONSHIPS. 
          MEND THINGS THAT COULD BE MENDED. IF I COULD GET. 
          IF I CAN GET EVERYBODY TO MAKE A PRAYER FOR THE TAYLOR FAMILY. 
          HE HE HE WAS EJECTED FROM HIS BOAT AND LOST AT SEA. 
          I JUST IT'S REALLY HURT MY HEART. IT'S CHANGED ME AS A PERSON. 
          AND I JUST HOPE I CAN GET EVERYBODY TO AS YOU'RE SAYING YOUR PRAYERS. 
          PUT ONE IN FOR HIM AND HIS FAMILY. HE HAD TWO KIDS. 
          AND AND THE CRAZY THING THAT I SEE IS I SEE EVERYBODY SAYING THEY'RE HIS BEST FRIEND. 
          KIND OF SHOWS WHAT KIND OF PERSON HE WAS. THIS. 
          I MEAN, THIS DUDE WOULD DROP EVERYTHING FOR YOU,
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT'S RARE IN THIS, IN THIS WORLD. AND, I MEAN, YOU CAN LOSE HIM ANY TIME,
ANYTIME. 
          A SIMPLE FISHING TRIP, A SIMPLE FISHING TRIP. 
          AND AND I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOU,
YOUR TIME UP HERE, YOUR YOUR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO, THE HEART THAT YOU PUT INTO THIS. THIS IS A THANKLESS JOB. 
          BUT I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW I'M THANKFUL FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO BECAUSE I KNOW
HOW HARD THIS IS. 
          THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN JOHNSON COUNCILMAN. 
          HAMMER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH EVERY HUMAN
INTERACTION BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT. WE WILL BE PRAYING FOR YOU,
YOUR FAMILY AND THE TAYLOR FAMILY. 
          THANK YOU FOR STEPPING INTO THE ROLE NOW. APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE RECORD AS WELL. ON WHICH ONE WAS,
YOU KNOW, APPROVED BY PLANNING AND ZONING, WHICH ONE WASN'T. THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR STEPPING INTO YOUR ROLE. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY. YOU WE'VE BEEN UNDER THE SAME SCRUTINY. 
          WELCOME TO THE CLUB, DEPUTY CHIEF. YOU GOT A SMILE. 
          YOU GOT A SMILE. BUT BUT APPRECIATE EVERYBODY OUT HERE,
AND THAT'S ALL. 
          AND APPRECIATE YOU MAYOR, DEPUTY MAYOR, EVERYBODY UP HERE. 
          SO LET'S LET'S GET DEPUTY MAYOR HOME. DEPUTY DEPUTY MAYOR. 
          I WAS GOING TO REPEAT MY SPEECH FROM EARLIER. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DOUGLAS HOOK TO THE SUSTAINABILITY ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. THANK YOU. AND I'LL END WITH THIS. 
          COUNCILMAN HAMMER. YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, MAN. 
          YOU JUST TOUCHED MY HEART, NUMBER ONE. AND IN SAYING THAT TOMORROW ISN'T PROMISED. 
          RIGHT. BUT IT'S WHAT WE DO TODAY TO LIVE OUR LIVES AND HOW WE REPRESENT NOT ONLY EACH
OTHER, BUT EVERYONE OUT THERE. AND FOR EVERYONE THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          YOU HAVE A MAYOR THAT PRAYS FOR YOU, DOESN'T KNOW YOU,
BUT HE LOVES YOU. 
          AND I LOVE EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS, EVEN THOSE OF US THAT MAY BE HARD HEADED AT TIMES,
INCLUDING MYSELF. 
          BUT I LOVE YOU ALL. MR. MORTON? NOTHING. THANK YOU,
MADAM SMITH. 
          NO, SIR. THIS MEETING'S.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.