HOW'D YOU LOSE YOUR SPOT? IT IS NOW 1800 HOURS. [CALL TO ORDER:] [00:00:04] I'M GOING TO CALL THIS SPECIAL COUNSEL MEETING, 2025 DASH 23 TO ORDER. THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. PLEASE RISE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HURRAH! MISS JONES, ROLL CALL. MAYOR. MEDINA. [ROLL CALL:] PRESENT. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN. HAMMER. PRESENT. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN IS BY PHONE. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN PRESENT. MR. MORTON PRESENT. MISS SMITH PRESENT. THANK YOU. FIRST PUBLIC HEARING. [PUBLIC HEARING:] I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND DEFER TO MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I DO HAVE A STATEMENT TO READ INTO THE RECORD TONIGHT. THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, HAS TENTATIVELY ADOPTED AN OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 6.7000 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. THE TENTATIVE OPERATING MILLAGE RATE OF 6.7000 EXCEEDS THE TRIM CURRENT YEAR AGGREGATE ROLLBACK RATE OF 6.4071 BY 4.57%. THE PERCENTAGE INCREASE BEING ABOVE THE 3% CAP IS CAUSED BY NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE 3% CAP. CONTRIBUTING TO THE OPERATING MILLAGE. RATE INCREASE OVER THE ROLLED BACK RATE. IS FUNDING REQUIRED POLICE AND FIRE PENSION CONTRIBUTION OBLIGATIONS OF 11 MILLION, RESULTING IN A 30.6 INCREASE FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, 2.9 MILLION AND HIGH PRIORITY FUNDING NEEDS, INCLUDING CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS REQUIRING PAYMENT. FIRE AND POLICE SAFETY EQUIPMENT ONBOARDING, COSTS OF NEW CITY FACILITIES AND POLICE VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS DUE TO. LOSS. 2.5 MILLION CONTINGENCY WAS SET ASIDE FOR OVERALL EMERGENCY PURPOSES. VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS AND PENDING. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, WHITE AND NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES BLUE UNION CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. 4.5 MILLION IN HEAVY FIRE RESCUE VEHICLES EQUIPMENT, INCLUDING FOR FIRE ENGINE QUINTS AND ONE NEW HEAVY RESCUE. CONTINUING TO FUND ANNUAL ANNUAL ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND INVESTMENTS TOTALING $3.25 MILLION. THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA HAS TENTATIVELY, ALSO TENTATIVELY ADOPTED A DEBT MILLAGE RATE OF 0.9993 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. THE TENTATIVE DEBT MILLAGE RATE SHALL GENERATE ESTIMATED REVENUES TOTALING $10,013,744, BASED ON THE GROSS TAXABLE VALUE CERTIFIED BY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. ASSUMING AN ESTIMATED 96% COLLECTION RATE, THESE REVENUES ARE RESTRICTED AND ARE DESIGNATED FOR PAYMENTS OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. SERIES 2019 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,529,500. THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2021 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,449,150, AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS SERIES 2023 DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTALING $3,035,825, ALL DUE IN THE FISCAL 2026 BUDGET YEAR. ALL CONCERNED CITIZENS HAVE BEEN INVITED TO ATTEND TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX INCREASE, STARTING AT 6 P.M. IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, LOCATED AT 120 MALABAR ROAD, SOUTHEAST PALM BAY, FLORIDA. 32907A FINAL DECISION ON THE PROPOSED TAX INCREASE AND THE BUDGET WILL BE MADE AT THIS HEARING. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SHOW OF HANDS. SEEING. NONE. ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. NO MOTION NEEDED AT THIS TIME, MAYOR. ALL RIGHT, COPY THAT. SO WE'RE NOW ON BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER ONE. [BUSINESS:] RESOLUTION 20 2530, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION, CHAPTER 33 FIRE DEPARTMENT RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON, PRESENT THIS ITEM. YES. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO READ A STATEMENT THAT WILL APPLY TO ALL OF THE IMPACT FEE AND AND NEW BUSINESS FEE, [00:05:08] ITEM FEE, ORDINANCE RESOLUTIONS, AND THEN ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON EACH ITEM THAT MAY ARISE. STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER THOSE, BUT I WANTED TO JUST READ INTO THE RECORD AS A MATTER OF BUDGET PHILOSOPHY AND PRACTICALITY. I DON'T VIEW AS A CITY MANAGER. I DON'T VIEW OR SEE USER SERVICES, LICENSES, OR PERMIT FEES AS A WAY TO PURSUE ADDITIONAL REVENUES, EXCLUDING, OF COURSE, IMPACT FEES FROM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE FOR THE DELIVERY OF NEW SERVICE AND DEMANDS PROPORTIONAL TO A NEXUS OF IMPACT, AND THAT DEMAND FOR NEW SERVICES OR NEW CAPACITY THAT WILL IMPACT THE RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY. THE FEE SCHEDULES, THEREFORE, HAVE BEEN CALIBRATED TO ADDRESS PASS THROUGH COSTS AND ACTUAL COST INCREASES. INCREASED SERVICE DELIVERY, ENHANCED SERVICE LEVELS EITHER DRIVEN BY CITY DEMAND OR DRIVEN BY USER DEMAND, COST RECOVERY OR CAPITAL RECOVERY, WHERE PORTIONS OR A PORTION OF THE CHARGES ARE MEANT TO FUND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS, REHAB AND REPLACEMENT, AND REHABILITATION, OR SECURITIES SUCH AS DEPOSITS THAT WERE DEEMED TO BE INADEQUATE TO COVER THE ACTUAL CITY'S EXPOSURE OR LIABILITY. ALSO, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, THE JUSTIFICATIONS OR NEEDS DO NOT EXIST, AND IN SOME CASES THOSE ARE HARD TO FIND. WE TRIED TO LEAVE FEES AND CHARGES ALONE, ESPECIALLY WHERE THEY MIGHT ADVERSELY IMPACT USER GROUPS OR CITIZENS, OR WHERE A RATIONAL NEXUS OR CASE TO BE MADE FOR THE INCREASE COULD NOT BE MADE. AND THIS IS ALL DONE UNDER THE THEORY THAT, OF COURSE, IN IMPACT FEES, USER FEES, LICENSING FEES, ALL THOSE CHARGES THAT A GOVERNMENT CAN AND OFTEN DOES CHARGE. THE CENTRAL QUESTION AND OPERATIONAL CHALLENGE, AND THE CENTRAL THESIS OF PUBLIC FINANCE IS ALSO THE NOTION OF FISCAL HETEROGENEITY. IN OTHER WORDS, WHO'S PAYING FOR WHAT? AND HOW DID WE MAKE IT FAIR? HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE DIFFERENCE? OR THE DELTA, THE GAP BETWEEN THE USER FEE AND A PUBLIC SUBSIDY THAT INVARIABLY IS DESIGNED OR IMPLEMENTED TO COVER AN OPERATIONAL COST? AND THAT WAS SORT OF THE HIGH LEVEL PERSPECTIVE WE TOOK WITH STAFF WHEN EVALUATING ANY FEE INCREASE PROPOSALS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 32ND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. ITEM NUMBER TWO, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 31, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE THREE ADMINISTRATION. CHAPTER 36 RECREATION DEPARTMENT RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL AGAIN. THE STATEMENT I READ APPLIES TO ALL OF THE NEW BUSINESS ITEMS, AND WE DO HAVE A RECREATION HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY ARISE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 31 SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I. I. I. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2025, DASH 32, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 THROUGH 2025 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE NINE, GENERAL REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 96, FLORIDA BUILDING CODE RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL STATEMENT STILL STANDS. STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. I JUST HAD A QUESTION REAL QUICK. JUST FOR. FOR STAFF, IF THAT'S OKAY. MR. PEARSON, MR. MORTON, IF THAT'S OKAY. AND HOW DO WE WITH THE WITH THE CHANGE IN IN THE FEES. HOW DOES HOW DOES THIS AFFECT OUR SURPLUS IN THE ENTERPRISE ACCOUNT? MR. PEARSON WILL COME UP AND ADDRESS THAT DIRECTLY. THANK YOU SIR. OUR SURPLUS. GOOD EVENING. BY THE WAY. MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND STAFF OUR SURPLUS. WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? JOHN PEARSON BUILDING. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. FOR THE RECORD OUR SURPLUS WAS ROLLED OVER FOR FOUR YEARS, BASICALLY IN ANTICIPATION OF BUILDING E. AND THEN ONCE WE GOT ARPA FUNDS THAT REDUCED THE AMOUNT OF PAY [00:10:02] THAT WE WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH, ARPA PAID FOR 50% OF BUILDING E, AND THEN BUILDING DEPARTMENT PAID FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE 50%. SO WE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT TO OUR FEE SCHEDULE BACK IN MARCH OF 2025, WHICH SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED OUR INCOME AS FAR AS PRIVATE PROVIDER FEES. IN ADDITION, WE DID THE REFUND. AND THROUGHOUT THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE'VE ALSO HAD THE REBATE PROGRAM IN PROCESS. SO HOW IT WILL AFFECT OUR OVERALL RUN IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME. WE, WE GOT AHEAD OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS BECAUSE WE FORESAW THAT WE COULD HAVE TOO MUCH OF A SURPLUS. BUT ONCE EVERYTHING IS BALANCED AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK ON OUR NORMAL FEE SCHEDULE ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE SEEN A MILD REDUCTION IN CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY. WE EXPECT THAT OUR SURPLUS WILL BE ACCURATE BY THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR. COOL. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025, DASH 32. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JOHNSON. DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE SECOND. AND I GOT A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN HABER. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2025, DASH 33, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026 THROUGH 2027 THROUGH 2028, PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE TEN IMPACT FEES, CHAPTER 103 IMPACT FEES SUBCHAPTERS PARTS, POLICE AND FIRE IMPACT FEES AND TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES IMPACT FEES RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL. AGAIN THE STATEMENT. BUT ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, MOST OF OUR IMPACT FEES, THESE IMPACT FEES ARE CALIBRATED THROUGH IMPACT FEE ANALYSIS. AND I BELIEVE YOU RECENTLY I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT THEY WERE RECENTLY REEVALUATED BY STANTEC. AND I BELIEVE THESE ARE IN LINE WITH THE PROJECTIONS OF THE PHASING OF THE IMPACT FEES THAT WERE CONTEMPLATED. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHED TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I'M SECONDING THIS ONE. I NEED A MOTION. JUST A QUESTION, MAYOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND. MR. MORTON, MAYBE FOR ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER. BUT WHEN THE STANTEC STUDY WAS WAS MARINAS LOOKED AT SPECIFICALLY OR WERE THEY WERE THEY EXCLUDED FROM THE IMPACT FEE STUDY. SO STAFF MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BETTER. ARE YOU COMING UP, CHRISTINE, TO ANSWER THAT ONE. OKAY. I KNOW YOU WERE INVOLVED, SO I HAVE NEVER SEEN YOU CAN COME UP. YEAH. I'VE NEVER SEEN MARINAS ADDRESSED IN OUR IMPACT FEE STUDY. OKAY. AS A FUNCTION OF TRANSPORTATION OR ANY OTHER THEIR IMPACT ANALYSIS, AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIND THE DATE THAT THAT GOES BACK TO. YOU MAY HAVE WHEN THOSE FEES WERE NO IMPLEMENTED. SO I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION TONIGHT. YEAH. YOU KNOW, THERE'S YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY THERE REALLY HASN'T EVER BEEN A MARINA IN PALM BAY. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I KNOW THE CITY SOLD A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO SOMEBODY TO. DEVELOP A MARINA. AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THAT THAT PROJECT WILL BE WILL BE COMING TO THE CITY, HOPEFULLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE. BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE MARINA IMPACT FEES, IT'S TALKING ABOUT PER BERTH OR PER SLIP AND JUST RUNNING ROUGH FIGURES IT COULD HAVE A TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE COST TO TO THAT GROUP FOR OVER $600,000. AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE HOW A PROJECT COULD BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AT THAT RATE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE WHERE THESE FEES CAME UP WITH. ARE THEY COMPARABLE TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES? AND IF NOT I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF INCREASING JUST THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM AND WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE INQUIRE ABOUT MAYBE POSSIBLY EVEN DOING A STUDY JUST JUST FOR THE MARINA. I MEAN, WE SOLD THAT LAND. AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE THE CENTERPIECE OF THE GEM OF THE BAYFRONT AREA. AND WE DON'T WANT TO PRICE THIS GUY OUT. FROM BEING SUCCESSFUL TO DELIVERING A BEAUTIFUL PRODUCT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION, AND HOPEFULLY STAFF CAN BRING SOME CLARITY TO IT. IF YOU'RE ASKING IF I KNOW HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS, HOW STANTEC CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS FOR THESE IMPACT FEES, I DO NOT HAVE THAT ANSWER FOR YOU, SIR. I CAN TELL YOU THERE WERE MULTIPLE RECREATION AREAS THAT WERE COVERED IN THE IMPACT FEES, NOT ONLY THE MARINA, BUT ALSO A GOLF COURSE, A TENNIS COURSE. AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS IN ANTICIPATION OF THESE, NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE HAD THEM AT THE TIME. THERE IS INCREASED TRAFFIC WHENEVER YOU HAVE A RECREATIONAL AREA SUCH AS MARINA, A TENNIS COURT, A GOLF COURSE, AND THE IMPACT FEES ARE SPECIFICALLY TO ASSIST THE CITY IN PROVIDING THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TO ACCOMMODATE THE DAILY TRIPS FOR THOSE DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. I MEAN, I JUST LIKE JUST KNOWING SOME HISTORICAL DATA FROM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, LIKE, OUR FEES ARE ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE CHARGING FOR. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, CURIOUS, LIKE, WITHOUT A STUDY, YOU KNOW, LIKE, HOW ACCURATE ARE THESE? ARE THESE FIGURES? I CAN LOOK THROUGH MY RECORDS, SIR, AND SEE IF I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. [00:15:01] I DON'T KNOW HOW QUICKLY I CAN GET IT, THOUGH. YEAH, AND I'M NOT SURE. WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THAT MARINA FOR FOUR YEARS. RIGHT NOW. SO I'M NOT SURE IF, YOU KNOW, JUST DETAINING THIS FOR THE TIME BEING. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. AND THEN COUNCILMAN HAMMER. YEAH, I HAVE CONCERNS THINKING MORE ON IT. BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN ON. I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN ON THE DEVELOPERS END BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN. THEY'VE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE ARMY CORPS AND WITH THE COUNTY AND ALSO WITH THE, I GUESS, THE EASEMENT AS WELL. SO IT WASN'T A MATTER OF TRYING NOT TO DEVELOP IT OR JUST HOLDING. I FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN THE BALL'S BEEN DROPPED ON EVERYBODY'S SIDE. BUT I FEEL JUST RAISING IT UP UNJUSTIFIABLY, THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE AS WELL. SO I'M FINE EITHER WAY. I'M FINE WITH HOLDING OFF ON IT. I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARY, BECAUSE WHAT WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO GO IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW? SO WE WANT TO HAVE GROWTH THE SAME WAY WE HAVE THE ABATEMENTS FOR L3 HARRIS SO WE CAN GET JOBS OUT THERE. I SEE THIS AS AN INCENTIVE TO GET SOME GROWTH OUT THERE. BUT I'M OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION. I HEARD DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE SPEAKING. I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN HAMMER SAYS, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING THERE. THE BCR IS GONE. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE GOING ON THERE. WE'RE TRYING TO GET OPPORTUNITY ZONES DOWN HERE, BUT SOMETHING'S GOT TO GIVE. SO. OKAY LET ME LET ME HAVE THE CITY MANAGER WEIGH IN, AND THEN COUNCILMAN HAMMOND. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER OR THE DEVELOPER, ONE OF THE DEVELOPERS, FOR A WHILE. MY APPROACH HAS BEEN IT'S BEEN FOUR YEARS. I'VE ASKED FOR PERFORMANCE INSTEAD OF GIVE FIRST AND THEN PERFORMANCE. SO A WAY THROUGH THIS POTENTIALLY JUST OFFERING A SUGGESTION, YOU COULD PASS THIS ON AND WE COULD DO A SPECIFIC IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT FOR A POTENTIAL PROJECT. IF THEY CAN PROVE PERFORMANCE ON THE OTHER END, THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING AND MAKE IT CREDIBLE TO THE CITY, WE CAN WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT IMPACT FEE THROUGH AN IMPACT FEE AGREEMENT. SO JUST A POTENTIAL PATH FORWARD. WE'RE NOT SHUTTING A DOOR, BUT ALSO ASKING THEM TO SHOW US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO, SHOW US THE MONEY, BASICALLY SHOW US WHAT'S GOING TO GO THERE. YES, SIR. COUNCILMAN WHAT? CITY MANAGER MARTIN SAID WAS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO I WOULD LIKE TO STICK TO THIS, BUT HAVE THAT ON THE TABLE TO WHERE WE WE CAN OFFER THIS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. AND ALSO THIS IS ON THIS FEE IS ONLY ON A NEW MARINA. NOT NOT A CURRENT MARINA THAT'S GETTING RENOVATED. CORRECT. IT WOULD BE FOR A NEW MARINA OR A MARINA THAT IF THEY WERE DOING AN EXPANSION, I DO BELIEVE ABSOLUTELY THIS WOULD APPLY TO ANY NEWSPAPER. IT WOULD BE PURSED LIP. THAT'S EXPANDED. CORRECT? YES. OKAY. I WOULD BE FOR, FOR FOR USING THIS AS A LEVERAGE TOOL TO, TO ENHANCE A, A COMPANY OR A BUSINESS TO COME HERE AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE GOING TO, IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE TABLE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO OFFER SOMETHING ON THE TABLE FOR THEM, TOO. SO I THINK IT SHOULD BE I THINK I THINK IT COULD BE AN INCENTIVE TO, TO USE A BARGAINING CHIP TO GET IN THERE, I LIKE IT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN LANGEVIN, I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. ARE YOU GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THIS AS WELL? NO. I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. SIR. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. WE DON'T NEED TO INCLUDE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE MOTION. CORRECT. THIS IS JUST. NO, THIS IS GOOD. ALRIGHT. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN SIMON JOHNSON, SECONDED BY MAYOR MEDINA. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2534, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026. SUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 17 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON, THANK YOU AGAIN, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL. NOTHING SPECIFIC OTHER THAN THE STATEMENT I READ AT THE BEGINNING, AND STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. STATEMENT APPLIES. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECOND. SECOND BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. MEMBERS. WE'RE NOW ON NUMBER SIX. PASSES FIVE ZERO. RESOLUTION 20 2535, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING RATES, CHARGES, AND FEES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026 PURSUANT TO THE CITY OF PALM BAY CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR CHAPTERS AND SECTIONS OF THE CODE AS SPECIFIED HEREIN. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS AND CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. STATEMENT STILL APPLIES, MISTER MORTON. [00:20:01] YES, SIR. AND STAFF IS HERE AS WELL. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 20 2535. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 36, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLANS AND THE POSITION CONTROL PLAN FOR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 THROUGH 2026, RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON STILL APPLY. STILL APPLIES. WE DID GET ONE LAST QUESTION THAT I SAW ON AN EMAIL JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO, AND I THINK IT ORIGINATED FROM THE CITY CLERK AND RESPECTS TO A POSSIBLE CHANGE IN A POSITION CONTROL. DID WE RESOLVE THAT ISSUE? I THINK IT WAS WITH RECREATION. DO WE KNOW? OKAY. THERE SEEMED TO BE IT LOOKED LIKE WHAT IT WAS WAS THE 2025 AMENDED FTE COUNT. IT'S RETURNING. IT LOOKED LIKE IT'S ADDING AN FTE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT. IT'S JUST GOING TO THE 2026 IS ROLLING BACK TO WHAT THE POSITION PLAN WAS ACTUALLY ALLOCATED FOR. SO IT'S NOT A TRUE INCREASE. CORRECT? OKAY I'M GOOD. THANK YOU. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE WEREN'T ACCIDENTALLY INCREASING NFT WITHOUT COUNSEL'S KNOWLEDGE. WE ARE NOT. THANK YOU. I NEED A MOTION. SORRY, DANIEL. OR ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK. THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. I NEED A MOTION. SO SOME OF GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. SECOND, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION. RESOLUTION 20 2537, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE FISCAL YEARS 2025 THROUGH 2026 THROUGH 2029 THROUGH 2020 THROUGH 2030 FOR THE CITY OF PALM BAY, FLORIDA, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. MORTON. THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THIS IS OUR BEST EFFORTS AT THIS POINT IN A CIP. I DO SUSPECT THAT WE MAY COME BACK AND ASK FOR AUGMENTATIONS OR MAYBE CHANGES AS WE HAVE A NEW PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, NEW STORMWATER APPROACH. AND IF THINGS MATERIALLY SEEM THAT WE NEED TO SHIFT OR AUGMENT. BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS OUR BEST EFFORTS WITH THE AVAILABLE DATA AND INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE. AS WE START CHANGING PROCESSES AND APPROACHES. SO FOR NOW, WE BELIEVE WE ARE SET WITH THIS RESOLUTION. ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL. SEEING NONE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO STEP FORWARD. STATE YOUR NAME. ERIC STEIN. 932 PLYMOUTH COURT. I'M JUST ASKING FOR SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE UTILITY SUMMARY. I'M SEEING THE 25 PRIOR WAS 41 MILLION. 26 IS 67 MILLION. 27 IS 22 MILLION. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH? I MEAN, BEING DONE. WHAT ARE ALL THE SIGNIFICANT DRIVERS ON THAT? ONE ITEM. THAT'S AN EXPANSION. I JUST WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY CLARIFICATION ON WHY THERE'S SUCH A LARGE VARIANCE FROM YEAR TO YEAR, OR IT'S GETTING PRETTY. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR QUESTIONS, MR. STEIN? OKAY, WE'LL GET YOU. WE'LL GET YOU THAT RESPONSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. MORTON? YEAH. WE'VE GOT GABRIEL HERE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. BUT IN GENERAL, THESE ARE RATE DRIVEN PROJECTS, SOME THAT WILL SEEK FUTURE FUNDING. AND IT'S FOR UTILITIES IMPROVEMENTS AND EXPANSION LARGELY TO EXISTING SERVICE CAPACITY. GABE, JUST GO AHEAD AND JUMP IN. YOU'RE THE EXPERT. YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. GABRIEL BOWDOIN, UTILITIES DIRECTOR. A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS ARE DUE TO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE STRUCTURE NEEDING TO IMPROVE WATER WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANTS. THOSE WERE THE LARGE DOLLARS ARE GOING. I WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 2ND, WHERE I'LL BE BREAKING THIS DOWN IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL FOR YOU. SOME OF THOSE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BETWEEN NOW AND 2030. BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PLANT PLANT EXPANSIONS, PLANT RENOVATIONS, AND THEN ALSO INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO EXCUSE ME? ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? SEEING NONE. I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. [00:25:06] ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I. I. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER NINE, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 2025, DASH 38, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, DECLARING CRITICAL NEED FUNDING FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. IN ACCORDANCE WITH CITY CHARTER ARTICLE SIX TAXES AND FEES SECTION 6.01 TAXES, SUBSECTION C, RESULTING IN AN AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX OPERATING MILLAGE RATE IN EXCESS OF THE 3% CAP RATE. RESCINDING RESOLUTIONS OR PARTS OF RESOLUTIONS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM. MR. MORTON, IF I MAY READ BRIEFLY, SECTION TWO OF THE ORDINANCE. A CRITICAL NEED EXISTS TO IMPOSE AN AD VALOREM TAX FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES AT A RATE THAT WILL EXCEED THE BUDGETED AD VALOREM REVENUE BY MORE THAN 3%. TO ADDRESS FUNDING DEFICIENCIES FOR CERTAIN CAPITAL ASSETS FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE QUINTE FIRE TRUCKS WITH 75 FOOT LADDERS REPLACING REPLACING AGING FLEET INVENTORY THAT RANGES BETWEEN 21 AND 25 YEARS OLD. ONE HEAVY RESCUE VEHICLE FOR THE TECHNICAL RESCUE TEAM SPECIALIZING IN COMPLEX AND HIGH RISK RESCUE OPERATIONS. THREE POLICE VEHICLES REPLACING URGENT VEHICLE LOSSES DUE FOR UNFORESEEN DAMAGES. 21 POLICE VEHICLES REPLACING AGING FLEET INVENTORY RANGING BETWEEN 6 AND 25 YEARS OF AGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? PLEASE STEP FORWARD. SIR. HI, MY NAME IS CHRISTY HORN. I'M A LOCAL. SPEAK ON THE MIC, SIR. MY NAME IS CHRISTY HORN ON A LOCAL BUSINESS HERE IN PALM BAY. I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING. THIS IS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A RATE INCREASE ABOVE THE VOTED ON 3%. WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED THAT CAP. AND IF SO, WHAT'S WHAT'S IT IN EXCESS OF? HOW MUCH CAN WE EXPECT OUR PROPERTY TAXES TO GO UP ABOVE NORMAL? I'M LIVING HERE EVERY YEAR. MY TAXES SEEM TO BE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. I'M JUST A SMALL BUSINESS. I LOVE IT HERE, BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING PRICED OUT OF THE GAME. AND NOW THAT WE HAVE VOTED ON CAPS THAT ARE BEING BLOWN CALLED CRITICAL NEED AND ALL I SEE IS DEVELOPMENT. HOW MUCH CAN WE EXPECT THE AVERAGE TAX AMOUNT TO GO UP. THE AVERAGE. THE NORMAL. OKAY. IS THAT IS THAT YOUR QUESTION? YEAH THAT'S OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY. WE'LL GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU, SIR. AND I THINK IT'S SPECIFIC, BUT I'LL GET AN ANSWER FOR YOU. WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO MOVE. WE'RE JUST GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE STAYING JUST ISN'T. IT SEEMS TO BE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. BUT WHO LIVED HERE? YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S GETTING BREAKS, BUT THE REGULAR PERSON PAYING TAXES. SO. ALL RIGHT, SIR? MR. MORTON? YEAH, I WOULD ASK TO SEE. DO WE HAVE DO WE HAVE THAT SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE. I DON'T THINK WE BROUGHT THAT TONIGHT. THE AVERAGE COST INCREASE. WE EXPECT IT OUT PER EXPECTED VALUATION AND I THINK DO YOU REMEMBER CLOSE ENOUGH. I THINK IT WAS A $250,000 HOUSE WITH A TYPICAL EXEMPTIONS. THE ANNUAL INCREASE WAS $12. DO WE DO WE DO WE HAVE BETTER NUMBERS? I DON'T WANT TO GUESS AND MAKE A MISTAKE IN THE IN THE STATEMENT. IF IT'S LESS THAN THE $12. YEAH, RIGHT. WE CAN DO THE SPECIFIC MATH WITH AN ADDRESS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR A GENERAL QUESTION. GOOD EVENING. LARRY WOJCIECHOWSKI, FINANCE DIRECTOR. NO, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THAT SLIDE WITH ME. BUT FROM WHAT I RECALL IS WE WERE ESTIMATING IT WAS A I BELIEVE IT WAS A $300,000 VALUE, AND WE WERE SHOWING THAT IT WAS AN INCREASE OF $12.44, I BELIEVE. AND THAT'S GOING OFF OF FOR THE YEAR MEMORY. YES. AND THAT IS WITH ALSO COUNTING, THOUGH WE DID TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE REDUCTION IN THE GO ROADS BONDS MILLAGE FROM DEVELOPMENT. SO THERE WAS AN OFFSET THAT WENT DOWN. YES, IT WAS A TOTAL DEBT OFFSET. CORRECT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, SIR? THAT'S $12 PER MIL PER THOUSAND. THAT WAS A TOTAL 300,000. 12 BUCKS, 12 BUCKS A YEAR. IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE COULD HELP YOU WITH SPECIFIC INFORMATION. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S JUST AN AVERAGE. YEAH. FROM A SPECIFIC EXAMPLE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, COME. STEP FORWARD. MA'AM. COME ON. THIS WAY. MY NAME IS CONNIE ALLMAN. I LIVE IN PALM BAY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS. RAISING OF THE CAP. OH, YOU HAVE IT. I GET A REDUCTION FOR 5000 BECAUSE I'M PERMANENTLY DISABLED. HOW CAN I KEEP PAYING THESE EXTRA FEES? YOU MIGHT NOT THINK $12 IS MUCH TO YOU, BUT IT CERTAINLY IS TO ME. [00:30:03] AND THEN YOU GET A $25,000. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T REMEMBER. EXEMPTION HOMESTEAD? YES. I MEAN, IT MEANS NOTHING IF I. IF I HAVE MY HOUSE FULLY PAID OFF, I'M PAYING $800 A YEAR. DO YOU KNOW? AND DO ANY OF YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT IS ON AN SSDI INCOME? I MEAN, IT IS HARD. $12 IS $12. TO ME, THAT'S GAS IN MY CAR. THAT'S FOOD ON MY TABLE. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GUYS CAN THINK. THIS CAN JUST GO ON. I CAME HERE, AND I. SINCE I BOUGHT A HOUSE $500, I HAVE RISEN UP IN FOUR YEARS. THAT'S JUST TAKEN AWAY. WHAT DO I. I HAVE NOTHING. I STAY AT HOME. I DRIVE TO A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT. THAT'S IT. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING. I CAN'T GO TO YOUR YOUR PARKS, YOUR MARINAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BECAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD IT. BECAUSE YOU KEEP RAISING IT UP. YOU DON'T RAISE DOWN. SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T WE GIVE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE PERMANENTLY DISABLED, 100% DISABLED, WHICH I AM. GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BREAK. YOU GIVE NOTHING. BUT YOU KEEP TAKING AND I. AND IT JUST UPSETS THE HELL OUT OF ME. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY IT, BUT IT JUST UPSETS ME. IT'S LIKE YOU'RE FORCING ME OUT OF THIS. OUT OF THIS STATE. I CAME FROM WISCONSIN. I PAY INSURANCE ON MY VEHICLE FOR. THEY TOLD ME FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S ACCIDENTS. I HAVE A PERFECT RECORD AND I'M PAYING THIS RIDICULOUS AMOUNTS. WHAT IS PALM BAY OFFERING ME THAT? NOTHING. I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NICE PLACE TO RETIRE, AND IT JUST KEEPS GOING UP. I SEE APARTMENTS BEING BUILT AND NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT THEM. THEY JUST SAT THERE FOR THREE YEARS AND THEN THEY GET BUILDERS GET FEES REDUCED, PERMITS REDUCED. WHAT'S THAT? HELPING ON TAXES? WHY ARE YOU GIVING ALL THESE PEOPLE ALL THESE TAX BREAKS AND NOT YOUR OWN PEOPLE. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS, MA'AM? OH, YEAH. I'D LIKE AN ANSWER. YOU LIKE AN ANSWER? FOR WHAT PARTICULAR QUESTION? ALL THREE OF MY QUESTIONS. WELL, PERHAPS I COULD GET STAFF TO COME COME UP AND TRY TO DECIPHER THAT. BUT DOES THAT CONCLUDE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS? I GUESS AT THIS MOMENT IT WILL. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, MR. MORTON. I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. I MEAN, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS. THERE'S ALSO SOME SOME, YOU KNOW, FRUSTRATION, SOME STATEMENTS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT EXEMPTIONS, DISABLED EXEMPTIONS, HOMESTEAD, ALL THE DIFFERENT EXEMPTIONS THAT APPLY. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RATE OF INCREASE OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IF ANY, GAVE TO SSI THIS YEAR. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT. I THINK THEY USUALLY GIVE A COLA WITH SSI. I BUT THE SERVICES IS WHAT THE MILLAGE GOES FOR. IT'S FOR FIRE, POLICE, TRANSPORTATION. YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S THE THE SERVICES. IT'S THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE CITY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WORK. I DON'T THINK I'M REALLY DOING YOU JUSTICE IN ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. I'D LOVE TO TALK WITH YOU AT LENGTH AFTER, BUT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I'M FULLY UNDERSTANDING. BUT I'D LOVE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION IF THAT'S HELPFUL. WELL, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER PROGRAMS THAT SHE MAY QUALIFY FOR AS A DISABLED RIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE. WHO SETS THOSE EXEMPTIONS OR THE STATE I JUST YEAH, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M WILLING TO TO, TO TALK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER BETTER ANSWERS I CAN GIVE YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN HAMMER. ARE THERE EXEMPTIONS THAT THAT THAT ARE IN OTHER STATES THAT WE DON'T DO? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT EXISTS OUT THERE THAT WE THAT WE AREN'T DOING WITHIN THE STATE OR MUNICIPALITY? DOES ANYBODY KNOW? WHAT QUESTION ARE YOU ASKING? ARE THERE EXEMPTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE 100% DISABLED, DISABLED VETERANS. THINGS THAT THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES USE, THAT WE HAVE NOT ADDRESSED OR THOUGHT OF OR HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT. BECAUSE THOUGH IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T DO RIGHT NOW. IN THE FUTURE, I WOULD I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT. SO THE STATE AND I HAVE TWO THINGS AFTER THIS. I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY MY PERSPECTIVE. RIGHT. A VETERAN THAT'S A SERVICE CONNECTED DISABLED VETERAN RATED AT 100%. THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE PROPERTY TAXES. BUT I STILL BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THE PROPERTY TAXES, MEANING THE SCHOOL BOARD. SO I'M NOT SURE I KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE EXEMPT FROM, I BELIEVE, [00:35:05] THE CITY, MUNICIPALITIES AND SUCH, BUT I BELIEVE THEY STILL PAY FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD, ALTHOUGH I'M NOT SURE, BUT THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS AND THAT THAT IS VERIFIED THROUGH THE STATE PROPERTY APPRAISER THAT THE PROPERTY APPRAISER DOES THAT. I'M NOT SURE OF WHAT MR. MORTON'S TALKING ABOUT IS THE DISABLED AMERICANS THAT ARE NOT MILITARY VETERANS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S LOOKING INTO. WE WE DON'T WE ADHERE TO THAT, BUT WE DON'T ENFORCE THAT. THAT'S THE STATE THAT MANDATES THOSE THINGS THAT PROVIDE THOSE EXEMPTIONS. COUNCILMAN. JOHNSON. WELL, YOU HAVE TWO MORE THINGS, RIGHT? OH, I'M SORRY I PRESSED IT LATE. SO, SO, MA'AM, ONE THING I WILL SPEAK TO INITIALLY, I STILL FEEL WE SHOULD LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE, BUT SPEAKING WITH OUR CITY MANAGER, MR. MORTON, WE'RE GOING THROUGH A DOGE OF THE CITY. YOU PROBABLY HEARD IT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY. AND HE RECOGNIZES THERE'S AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE CAN BRING ABOUT A LOT OF SAVINGS. SO HE'S GOING ABOUT DODGING EACH DEPARTMENT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE CITY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN, THE SAME WAY WE HAVE TO CUT BACK ON OUR BUDGET. THE CITY NEEDS TO CUT BACK ON THEIR BUDGET. SO MR. MORTON RECOGNIZES THAT. SO WHEN YOU SIT DOWN WITH HIM, YOU CAN ASK HIM ABOUT THAT PROCESS AS WELL, AND HE'LL BE ABLE TO ELABORATE IN MORE DETAIL FOR YOU. HE'S A LOT MORE ELOQUENT WITH IT. HE'S FROM HARVARD, SO HE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT, TOO. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER TEN, MISS SMITH. RESOLUTION 20 2539, A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, LEAVING THE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX MILLAGE RATE FOR MUNICIPAL PURPOSES, AND THE VOTED DEBT MILLAGE RATE FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTY WITHIN THE CITY OF PALM BAY, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF STATE LAW FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU, MA'AM, MR. MORTON. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M ASKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2025 DASH 39 SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. IT PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 11, MR. MORTON. THANK YOU. MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT THE CONSIDERATION OF THE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL AND TRAINING SCHEDULE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2526. I WILL SAY THAT IN ADDITION TO THE SOFT HIRING FREEZE, I ALSO PUT A POLICY IN EFFECT THIS LAST MONTH WHERE EVERY TRAINING, WHETHER APPROVED OR NOT, HAS TO BE SUBMITTED 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE FOR ADDITIONAL REVIEW TO EVALUATE IT FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE, ORGANIZATIONAL NECESSITY. AND IS IT THE BEST VENUE? WE DO WANT TO INVEST IN OUR PEOPLE, EDUCATE AND TRAIN, BUT JUST TO EVALUATE THAT IF THAT SPECIFIC TRAINING REQUESTED IS IN FACT SERVING AN ORGANIZATIONAL NEED AND IS THE BEST VENUE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. SO WE ARE ASKING YOU TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AN AREA THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BY OUR DOJ'S EFFORTS IN THE COMING YEAR. THANK YOU. ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I NEED A MOTION. A QUESTION. MAYOR MR.. MR. MORTON, IS THERE IS THERE A LEGISLATIVE IN THIS BUDGET OR IS THIS ALL STAFF. STAFF. ALL STAFF. OKAY. THIS IS LEGISLATIVE STAFF. I CAN'T READ WHAT'S IN FRONT OF ME BECAUSE IT'S TOO SMALL. SO BUT NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOUR LEGISLATIVE BUDGET, AT LEAST THE PORTION THAT I'M AWARE OF FOR THE I KNOW THE TRUE LEGISLATIVE FUNDING THAT RUNS THROUGH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS IN THIS BUDGET, IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. AND I APOLOGIZE. I REALLY CAN'T READ THE NEXT LINE. 0.5 FONT. DOES THAT SATISFY YOUR I NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARINGS. [PUBLIC HEARINGS:] NUMBER ONE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 20 2534, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE TEN IMPACT FEES, CHAPTER 106 IMPACT FEES, SUBCHAPTER WATER AND WASTEWATER IMPACT FEES BY ADJUSTING THE WATER CAPITAL CHARGES. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, [00:40:05] HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MA'AM. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND MR. MORTON. I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 34. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER TWO, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2025, DASH 35, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 200 UTILITIES CODE BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES, AND CHARGES FOR THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEM AND SERVICES. PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND, MR. MORTON ANYTHING? NO, SIR. COUNCIL. ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK? ALL IN CLOSING, THE PUBLIC HEARING. NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFEE. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2022, DASH 36, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 201 SEWER USE. SUBCHAPTER MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS BY ADJUSTING PERMIT FEES AND OTHER CHARGES RELATED TO THE CITY'S UTILITIES WASTEWATER SYSTEM, PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT. HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES. PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. MR. MORTON, NOTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. SO MOVED. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN HAMMER. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FOUR, MADAM SMITH, ORDINANCE 2025, DASH 37, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE CODE OF ORDINANCES, TITLE 20, UTILITIES CODE, CHAPTER 202 RECLAIMED WATER BY ADJUSTING THE RATES, FEES, AND CHARGES FOR RECLAIMED WATER PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT, HEREWITH PROVIDING FOR INCLUSION IN THE CITY OF PALM BAY. CODE OF ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY CLAUSE. PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND MR. MORTON, THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. THIS ONE MIGHT SEEM SLIGHTLY COUNTERINTUITIVE BECAUSE I KNOW WE WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS. WE'D LOVE TO EXPAND OUR RECLAIMED WATER SYSTEM AND DELIVER MORE RECLAIMED WATER. SO THE FEE IS NOT TRYING TO DISCOURAGE THAT, BUT IT IS ACCOUNTING FOR AN INCREASED TREATMENT COSTS AND THE INCREASED TREATMENT COSTS RELATED TO THE REGULATORY ENVIRONMENT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 DASH 37 SECOND. GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE. MADAM SMITH, ORDNANCE 2025 DASH 38, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF PALM BAY, BREVARD COUNTY, FLORIDA, ADOPTING THE FINAL BUDGET AND APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2025 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. MA'AM, I'M GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. AND MISTER MORTON, NOTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? ITEM NUMBER FIVE. SEEING NONE, I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASKING FOR A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 25 2025 DASH 38. SECOND. I GOT A MOTION BY DEPUTY MAYOR JAFFE, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN JOHNSON. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. AYE. PASSES FIVE ZERO. THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. ALL DONE. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.